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Clinton Urged to Consider VP Slot

Updated 6:57 p.m.
By Jonathan Weisman
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking on a conference call with the New York House delegation, hinted that she would be open to serving as vice presidential nominee with Barack Obama, participants said.

On a 2 p.m. call, several New York Democrats suggested she seek the position. Rep. Nydia M. Velazquez (D-N.Y.) said she implored Clinton to think about the passionate support her candidacy has received from Latino voters, who would be crucial to Democratic chances in November.

"She said if she was asked, she would consider it," Velazquez related in an interview. "She said, 'Look, I will do whatever it takes to defeat McCain in November.'"

Participants said the conference call was emotional and extraordinary. Clinton said she would not concede the nomination tonight, that she had "earned the right" to take some time off and reflect on her future. She marveled that 18 million Americans had been moved to vote for her, and she graciously added that a similar number had voted for her opponent.

Clinton started the call with a defiant tone, dismissing press reports that she would withdraw tonight as totally untrue, then trumpeting the depth of support for her candidacy. One participants said she appeared ready to delcare she would "soldier on" to the convention.

"Then it turned on a dime," he said.

Velazquez's question about the vice presidency changed the tone immediately. Clinton may have been somewhat circumspect, but the congressmen were resolute and enthusiastic. They wanted her on the ticket.

"She sounded practical about it, but I will tell you the people on the phone call were enthusiastic," the lawmaker said. "I was more excited after the phone call than I was before the phone call."

About a dozen New York House Democrats joined the call, and many expressed concern that Latino voters, women and blue collar voters might not rally around an Obama candidacy. Their solution: Join the ticket.

"You can't dismiss the support and the strong feelings about Hillary Clinton among women, among Latinos, among blue collar workers," Velazquez said. "For anyone who has their eyes on the prize, this has to be a consideration. And as a good Democrat who wants her party to succeed in November, she's got to keep all her options open."

The Clinton campaign largely confirmed the account, although campaign aides appeared to dismiss its significance: "Today on a conference call with New York legislators, Senator Clinton was asked whether she was open to the idea of running as Vice-President and repeated what she has said before: she would do whatever she could to ensure that Democrats take the White House back and defeat John McCain," the campaign said in a statement.

In this week's Pew poll, 53 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents said they'd like to see Obama pick Clinton has his VP. More than three-quarters of her supporters and nearly four in 10 of his thought she would be the right choice. (The percentage of Obama voters who want Clinton as No. 2 dipped 12 points from a March Pew poll.)

When asked open-ended questions about the matter in mid-May (a higher bar), 39 percent said they'd like Clinton, 10 percent said Edwards and 36 percent expressed no opinion.

By Web Politics Editor  |  June 3, 2008; 5:37 PM ET
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Comments

100% agreement, Chuckamok, re the way in which Hillary and her followers savaged the women who were Bill's victims. Like you, I have been baffled as to how "feminists" can be so openly misogynistic. I am convinced that Hillary Clinton's campaign has set back for at least a generation, and perhaps longer, any genuinely feminist movement, by which I mean, any movement that embraces the welfare of ALL women, regardless of class or race.

Posted by: Tanta | June 4, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

"But, surely this post from jacksmith is a joke - a parody?"

You may very well be right. But I've read so many comments from Hillary-heads, and they ALL could be taken that way.

I NEVER get an explanation, for instance, as to why Hillary, who led the attack squad that slimed Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinsky, and Juanita Broaddrick - ANY woman who dared to expose the sexual predations of BubbaZipper - could be seen as pro-woman, even a HERO for women's rights.

Such pigheaded stupidity seems to be in abundance among the sheep who support the Clinton Machine.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Dear Chuckamok, you are of course correct re the Clintons.

But, surely this post from jacksmith is a joke - a parody? It reads like a pastiche of Hillary's own speeches, a send-up of her obtuse narcissism.

If jacksmith actually is a sincere Clinton supporter, he is duplicating his Leader's contempt for the intelligence of American voters.

Posted by: Tanta | June 4, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary Clinton fought her heart out against all odds"

Against all odds? Yeah, right. ;)

The face plant of The Relentless Ambition Circus IS stunning, one for the record books.

The Smartest Woman in the World blew a sure thing, a slam dunk, a no brainer.

Stunning was the combination of hubris, arrogance, that bilious sense of entitlement, endless lying, hamfisted pandering, that hokey fake southern drawl, race baiting, and, of course, the magenta-faced BubbaZipper bumbling his way across the American landscape.

A rookie raced out of left field and beat the ponderous, lumbering Clinton Machine at its own game.

It was indeed ... stunning.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!!!

You have just witnessed the greatest political campaign fight in American history. One for the textbooks, and the history books. Hillary Clinton fought her heart out against all odds to win for all of the American people . While at the same time doing her best to prepare Sen. Barack Obama to win in November if he was the nominee. STUNNING!!! WELL DONE HILLARY CLINTON. WELL DONE! Your AMAZING! :-)

Sen. Obama could not have had a better opponent than Hillary Clinton. Nor could he have had a better opponent to prepare him for the battle royal to come against John McCain and the Republicans ahead of the November elections. Hillary Clinton was like a big Mama cat determined to teach her kitten how to hunt, and hang with the big dogs for the fights ahead.

And how about Bill Clinton, Chelsea, and th whole Clinton team. They were magnificent. They really showed their metal. BRAVO! TEAM CLINTON... BRAVO!

And how about YOU! my fellow Americans. I'm so proud of you. And proud to be one of you. You showed what you are made of. And what makes America so great. You never gave up on your Champion Hillary Clinton. Time, and time again you eagerly waited your turn to vote for Hillary Clinton. To pick her up and pass her along down the line to the rest of your fellow Americans.

You never gave up on her. Just as Hillary Clinton never gave up on you. No matter how many times they counted her out. No matter how many times they brutally knocked her down. You knew she would get back up. And you were ready to support her when she did. AMERICA LOVES A FIGHTER. AMERICA UNDERSTANDS A FIGHTER. AMERICA IS A FIGHTER. I'M PROUD OF YOU AMERICA!

Hillary said she would accept the VP spot on the ticket if ask. And I am thrilled to hear that. I think it would be crazy not to take her up on that offer. You could not have a better VP than Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is Sen. Obama's best chance of winning the Whitehouse in November. And it is essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse.

The American people are in a very desperate condition now. George Bush has wrecked America, and much of the world.


YOU MADE US VERY PROUD HILLARY CLINTON! :-)

WE LOVE YOU...


jacksmith... Working Class :-)


p.s. I really liked Sen. Barack Obama's speech in Minnesota. I think he just maybe ready now for the Bush Republican attack machine, dirty tricks, and vote fraud machine. :-)

Posted by: jacksmith | June 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Obama cannot even unite the Democrats. In fact, he has plunged them into a civil war. How can he unite our country ?

Rebecca, I think that you had better review who was the plunger and who was the plungee.

It sucks to lose, doesn't it?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama cannot even unite the Democrats. In fact, he has plunged them into a civil war. How can he unite our country ?

Posted by: Rebecca | June 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Many women will not forget the way the Democrats treated Hillary Clinton. Vote McCain. Vote Nader. Nobama.

Posted by: Jane | June 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Quote: "I know the obvious attraction and support for Hillary from women. What is the Latino connection. I just moved to Texas in 2006 (from West Virginia)and haven't yet figured why Ms.Clinton, in particular, has such a presumed support from Latinos."

Welcome to Texas where you see the bumper sticker "I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could". Part of the reason is her husbands signing and support of NAFTA, that helped Mexico and Latin countries.
Part is that they don't know for whom they are voting, as the exit polls show in Puerto Rico. Some said they thought they were voting for Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I find it sad that so few people seem to take the trouble to review history to see if it is wise for Clinton to withdraw. Consider this: A while back, a guy named Gary Hart looked like the Democratic nomination was his. Then he got caught in an extramarital affair and had to withdraw from the race. Obama is not the Democratic candidate until he is declared as the candidate at the nominating convention. Keeping her options open is not a bad thing, its a prudent thing.

Playing coy puts pressure on the Obama camp to make concession to her on what will be conceded to her as part of ther vice presidential duties. Lyndon Johnson once said that the Vice Presidency is not worth as much as a bucket of warm spit. Making a better deal before going in is not an imprudent thing.

Posted by: jcoates1 | June 4, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary doesn't get the democratic nomination, she should run as an independent candidate. She certainly has the votes.

Posted by: 08 | June 4, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I know the obvious attraction and support for Hillary from women. What is the Latino connection. I just moved to Texas in 2006 (from West Virginia)and haven't yet figured why Ms.Clinton, in particular, has such a presumed support from Latinos.

Posted by: Eric Barth | June 4, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

"Are you worried that you might have to move from your trailer park ..."

WICKED stuff, there, G.

Such rapier wit. You must be quite impressed with yourself, ey?

;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 4, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Don't think Obama can deal with the militancy of the Clinton supporters that are going to give her the royal treatment as if she was running for president. It would dilute his message. I think a strong Hispanic Veepee could just as well sew up the election. I am sure they are polling away as I write this.

The 'I won't make up my mind tonite' statement after clearly losing the nomination should be a warning sign. If she would have outright endorsed him, I'd think differently but she once again showed her sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Rolf Ernst | June 4, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

To Response

"I'm not an Obama backer, so the winning-graciously thing doesn't apply. I'm a new firm Obama hater, and to see the Relentless Ambition Circus go down in flames is very gratifying indeed. The Obamas are felons. They belong in the Big House, not the White House."

So winning graciously doesn't apply because you're unhappy with who won the Democratic primary? What a wonderful world you must live in, ignoring the losers and miscreants of the opposition that you are a part of, now, after tonight.

It must be refreshing to newly and firmly hate someone, I haven't tried this tactic since, um, third grade or so. But of course, if this mind set brings the Relentless Ambition Circus to town I must give it a try, so as to release my relentless ambition to be as aware as yourself.

Felons? Why such a serious charge? Are you worried that you might have to move from your trailer park because gas cost too much to drive to the 7-11 for beer? Cough it up and prosecute if you can back up this ridiculous statement, otherwise sit down!

Posted by: G | June 4, 2008 5:58 AM | Report abuse

"The only way I will ever vote for a ticket that has his name on it is if Hillary is an equal partner."

Do you mean like "domestic partners," because that's the only "equal partership" I'm aware of, outside of business forms that is. Unless you're gay, wherein the concept of equal partner is excluded.

"I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him. I will only vote for an "obama" ticket if Hillary is on it! "

So, which is it -- never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him, or that you will only vote for him if Hillary is on it. Make up your mind, believe in your convictions, you make a waffle look flat.

Posted by: G | June 4, 2008 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a weasel. A political weasel.

The only way I will ever vote for a ticket that has his name on it is if Hillary is an equal partner.

Obama has the nomination and all you hear on the t.v. is boo-hoo everyone is a racist. What? He is still playing the crying game?

My God, he is not even a gracious "winner".

I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him.

I will only vote for an "obama" ticket if Hillary is on it!

Does anyone out there get that? If you don't then you will in the General because I am not alone!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Never Obama | June 4, 2008 4:51 AM | Report abuse

I'm not an Obama backer, so the winning-graciously thing doesn't apply.

I'm a new firm Obama hater, and to see the Relentless Ambition Circus go down in flames is very gratifying indeed.

The Obamas are felons. They belong in the Big House, not the White House.

Posted by: Response | June 4, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse

Who "urged" her? Maybe it was her ID, maybe her ego, maybe Bill or Chelsea. Most likely it was any anonymous mirror, possibly the dark windows in the surveillance vehicles that tend to follow her around.

Who knows? She knows, and she's not telling right now.

Let's see -- from First Lady to carpetbagger, then thrust on the stage of protecting the "disenfranchised" white voters of Florida and Michigan. What a stretch! My mind reels from the newly discovered injustice heaped on white voters in this country over the centuries.

But it's the media, don't you know? While crocodile tears stream down my face I must remember that this is the very media that was allowed to consolidate to the point of redundancy in the years of your Senate tenure.

But hey, wasn't it Colin Powell's son (another black man) who presided over the FCC on your watch in the Senate; creating the oligarchy that you and your husband now condemn?

Sleep in your bed, it's been made for many years.

Posted by: G | June 4, 2008 3:44 AM | Report abuse

What a graceless lady Hillary turned out to be! It is not a pretty picture; I could not be more disappointed in her than I am tonite. She simply does not care about our party winning in Nov. There is NO way she should be on the ticket.

Posted by: bluebabe | June 4, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

I live in Appalachia (boonies of north Georgia). Call them rednecks but they are the kindest, warmest and loyal people once they get to know you.

Race does matter but only before they get to know you. After that nothing matters other than you.

Flawed like rest of us abet in a bit more obvious manner.

I think I will go with Obama. Does not matter who he picks. The guy knows what he is doing.

Win or loose. Better America for us all.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 11:23 PM

I saw someone talking about JFK's Presidential campaign recently--although it may have been his campaign for the nomination rather than the general election--and he said that JFK spent a great deal of time campaigning in W. Virgina and Appalachia and that initially there was a great deal of distrust in the region b/c of Kennedy's Catholicism but that he really turned it around. Sounds exactly like what you're saying about people giving him a chance when they got to know him.

I'm glad you're going to vote for Obama, too. One of my friends is working on his campaign and says he is as genuine and decent as he appears.

Posted by: cg | June 3, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Clinton regularly said that John McCain would be a better president than Obama. She should campaign McCain to be his VP. But Obama's ? No. She has no place being a VP to someone she doesn't believe in.

Posted by: Bitter Nation | June 3, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

billy clinton as a relative of some one in the white house would make me long for billy carter.

Posted by: lawrence | June 3, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

You got to love the guy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/obama-to-head-to-appalach_n_105031.html

First week as presumptive nominee..where does he head to the place he is weakest. The Appalachian whites.

I live in Appalachia (boonies of north Georgia). Call them rednecks but they are the kindest, warmest and loyal people once they get to know you.

Race does matter but only before they get to know you. After that nothing matters other than you.

Flawed like rest of us abet in a bit more obvious manner.

I think I will go with Obama. Does not matter who he picks. The guy knows what he is doing.

Win or loose. Better America for us all.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Millions of Americans supported Obama just to keep Hillary and Bill out of the White House. Why would they ever want to have her there as Obamas' VP ?
But you go girl and if that big eared clown is foolish enough to have you as his VP then it will be the reason why the Dems will not be in the White House in 09.
Get ready for McCain in 09

Posted by: john spencer | June 3, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line:-

Obama has a real uphill climb.
Hillary is going to go on and on and on.
She will not make it. But will do everything possible to tear Obama down.

If McCain picks Mitt Romney - I think its a lost ticket for Dems.

Please people if u r pissed for what ever reason and going to loose. Vote Nadar.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

go hillary! she should be offered the VP and gladly, obama BARELY won the nomination, hardly a wipeout! if hillary isn't given the VP then she should run as an independent! the democratic party is about the will of the people, nearly 50% want hillary, combine your efforts or obama will LOSE. or the 50% who want hillary will go with her to the independent party! we deserve a choice! i also agree with many comments about how hillary was slighted by the media over and over!

Posted by: russ blackstone | June 3, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Millions of Americans have come out to support Clinton, it is extremely important that their voices are heard as well. I am an Obama supporter, but it's not all about me. Division isn't the way to victory. Americans need to be heard, this ticket is obvious, and always has been. Time to smile and party.
Yay, I am proud to be an American today.
Peace

Posted by: Sarah | June 3, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm not an Obama backer, so the winning-graciously thing doesn't apply.

I'm a long time Hill-Bot hater, and to see the Relentless Ambition Circus go down in flames is very gratifying indeed.

The Clintons are felons. They belong in the Big House, not the White House.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 3, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama speech :-

Generous to Clinton. Rest is America, America, Americans.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Bill

Cory Aquino was widow of ex-president.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

To Obama Supporters: Your candidate just won the nomination. The very least you could do for the other half of the Democratic Party that supported Hillary Clinton is win graciously.

Posted by: Joseph | June 3, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: zbrgqhznva | June 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Jason you forgot Cory Aquino.

Yeah Barack is so inexperienced that he came from behind against an automatic selection of Hillary and completely out-campaigned her. Sometimes experience is only a lifetime of bad habits- it does not necessarily equal greater competence. I am sure we can all think of less experienced operators being more competent than more experienced people in many fields.

Posted by: Bill Kane | June 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

"thankfully McCain is just going to win anyway. As an active-duty US serviceman, I want someone with prior experience in combat making decisions in my best interests, not some guy or woman who don't even like the service. Barack's picture in that USMC shirt is priceless. Only Marines and Marine family members have earned the right to wear that shirt. Anyone can wear a shirt or put a sticker on their car; few can actually make the sacrifice and do what it takes."

Like Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et. al.

Posted by: G | June 3, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Why does WAPO sort the comments so that the most current post is first? Hard to follow threads this way. Must be a Woodward thing.

Posted by: G | June 3, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Get ready to live with the idea of Hillary as Veep. Don't forget, the Obama campaign is supposed to be unifying and inclusive."

He is not as dumb or as "unifying" and "inclusive" to include a proven liar and cheat as his VP. If he is, so long.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It's time to turn Hill-Bot's innuendo - "Gee, RFK got killed during his campaign ..." - around and wonder: Do we want her and BubbaZipper a heartbeat away?

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain."

You wanna bet??
---------------------

*Sign* True. Man, its either him or Nadar for me and Nadar is not getting traction but then I am not mortgaging my soul to the devil. Obama supporters are sane.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

"Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain."

Apparently you come from the part of the country where they don't know her. You won't find anyone voting for a Clinton where I come from.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

How dare you steal my Presidency ?

You better not give that VP post to someone else !

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain."

You wanna bet??

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Hillary speech.

Me me me. I I I

I won popular vote.
States I won matter - rest don't matter.

I hope Obama has sense not to pick her. Nader here I come again buddy.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Sen. Clinton should not demean herself with the VP spot. She is a powerful senator who can bring the bacon home to NY."

Sure she is. She is near the last in line according to seniority. What has she done for New York in her term as senator so far?

The bacon has managed to escape her, just like the nomination.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary for VP?
No way. All of the republicans and half the democrats can't stand her."

Much as that might seem the case from these blogs, polls show that most Democrats like both Hillary and Obama. That's just a fact.

We'd all like to keep our ideological purity, but this is the real world, and it's very hard to argue that having Hillary on the ticket would lose more votes than it gained.

Somebody said that the nominee gets to pick the VP, and that's true, of course, but Hillary did have a second-place finish so much stronger than any in history that I believe she's earned a little extra consideration.

Many Obama supporters (I am one) believe that most of the Hillary supporters' threats to vote McCain come from a tiny minority, some of whom are Republicans in drag. Most Hillary supporters - though not all - will vote for Obama when the time comes, whoever's VP.

But the flip side of that is that Obama supporters who threaten to abandon the ticket if Hillary's on it are also a small minority dealing empty threats.

Having Hillary on the ticket may annoy many Obama supporters, but very few will be so annoyed they don't vote for the ticket over McCain.

Get ready to live with the idea of Hillary as Veep. Don't forget, the Obama campaign is supposed to be unifying and inclusive.

Posted by: OD | June 3, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

NObama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Great Hillary is speaking in NY.

Sounds like she is officially campaigning for VP post.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

NOBama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

An Obama-Clinton ticket is not something that I want to see. She has run a negative campaign and he has taken the high road. Hillary has run a republican campaign on another democrat who refused to use those same tactics on her. Besides being an african american female living in rural georgia, it is not guarantee that she will bring those "working americans...hard working white americans" to the ticket. Living in a rural area, those same people have told me that the only reason that they voted for Hillary because they wanted to eliminate Obama as a potential democratic nominee. In the general election, if Hillary were the nominee, they plan to vote for McCain. As for women voters, I believe that this country is ready for woman president, just not Hillary Clinton. She has to much baggage for someone to say that the only reason that she has lost the primary was because of sexism. She lost because she mismanaged her campaign. Obviously, all of her excellent judgement and years of experience did not help her. She has pointedly proven that experience is not the only qualifications for a job. Obama with his so-called little experience pointedly proved that you can do the job and possess good judgement even without all those years of experience. He has proven himself tremendously throughout this campaign. Sorry, no Clinton supporter can convince me that she can run the country better with all of her experience over Obama's better managed campaign with less experience. Hopefully, Obama will continue to show good judgement and not let Hillary Clinton bully herself onto the ticket.

Posted by: Carolyn From GA | June 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

NOBama in 08

Posted by: Yo | June 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

An Obama-Clinton ticket is not something that I want to see. She has run a negative campaign and he has taken the high road. Hillary has run a republican campaign on another democrat who refused to use those same tactics on her. Besides being an african american female living in rural georgia, it is not guarantee that she will bring those "working americans...hard working white americans" to the ticket. Living in a rural area, those same people have told me that the only reason that they voted for Hillary because they wanted to eliminate Obama as a potential democratic nominee. In the general election, if Hillary were the nominee, they plan to vote for McCain. As for women voters, I believe that this country is ready for woman president, just not Hillary Clinton. She has to much baggage for someone to say that the only reason that she has lost the primary was because of sexism. She lost because she mismanaged her campaign. Obviously, all of her excellent judgement and years of experience did not help her. She has pointedly proven that experience is not the only qualifications for a job. Obama with his so-called little experience pointedly proved that you can do the job and possess good judgement even without all those years of experience. He has proven himself tremendously throughout this campaign. Sorry, no Clinton supporter can convince me that she can run the country better with all of her experience over Obama's better managed campaign with less experience. Hopefully, Obama will continue to show good judgement and not let Hillary Clinton bully herself onto the ticket.

Posted by: Carolyn From GA | June 3, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton should not demean herself with the VP spot. She is a powerful senator who can bring the bacon home to NY.

Posted by: JWB | June 3, 2008 8:29 PM

Well I live in NYC and I haven't seen her bring home jack sh*t.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Hillary for VP?
No way. All of the republicans and half the democrats can't stand her.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

"in reaction to the treatment of her by Obama and the DNC"

Oh, please, such sore losers. Go ahead, take your ball and go home.

Hillary-heads have absorbed her well-honed victimhood shtick.

"Oh, we were treated so BADLY by (fill in) and we really DESERVED the presidency."

What a load. ;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

He needs Hillary on the ticket like a hog needs a side-saddle.

He got this far without her.

Who would have thought it at the start of the campaign?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen the party split like this - it is 10 times worse than 60 or 68 or 72 or 80. The idea that Clinton supporters will still fall in line if she is not VP is nonsense - indeed many will still stay home in reaction to the treatment of her by Obama and the DNC. Yes a few GOP crossovers will be lost if she's on ticket, and a few Obama supporters that were never really Obama supporters - just Hillary haters - will walk. But she brings back the vast majority of over 17 million voters and the proven ability to get votes from groups that Obama has a problem with - if that is not balancing a ticket I do not know what is. The polls show that her addition moves states to Obama and that no other name does - Obama needs her more than she needs him. However, it is fun to watch the Hillary haters in the Obama camp talk "unity" and forget how Democrats walk when we feel dis'ed as shown in 68/72/and 80. Perhaps Obama is not man enough to go against his supporters (or his wife?) and run with Hillary. Perhaps he is not man enough to be a strong president if there is a strong VP named Hillary. Hillary as VP is the ONLY way the Obama camp can show a love of unity - it will be interested to see if Obama is man enough to lead a unified party - or is he only good in front of his fan club as he begs for non-Democratic Party folks' votes?

Posted by: papau | June 3, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Haha, very witty comment by "satire".

Posted by: OD | June 3, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOO TO
OBAMA/SABELIUS FROM KANSAS!
SHE MAKES ME ILL AND I AM HER AGE!

WHAT HAS SHE EVER DONE TO EARN THE NO. 2 SPOT IN THE NATION???

IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO OBAMA, SHE IS PRESIDENT????????
HELLOOOOO AMERICA, WAKE UP HERE, NAPPY TIME IS OVER!


Posted by: GRANDMA DEE | June 3, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

"Putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket for vice president creates a ménage-à-trois. Bill will be the unexpected roommate. Even if a President Obama can discipline Hillary and get her to play second fiddle, there is not the remotest chance that he can get the former president to accept such rules. Even if Bill Clinton wanted to rein in his newly prolific public expressions of rage and frustration, there is doubt that he is any longer capable of doing so." - Dick Morris

Morris probably has a deeper insight than most into the pathological swamp between BubbaJeff's ears.

Having Hillary on board should scare the hell out of Obama. But having magenta-faced Bubba careening across the deck would be a living nightmare.

No more Clintons. Ever.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 3, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Dear T Gibson, "grammar" is not spelled "grammer", you babbling idiot. Obviously the last thing you need to worry about is getting a master's degree. You need to get an elementary school degree. It scares me that you might be able to vote or procreate.

Posted by: El Latino | June 3, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Every time an Obama supporter attacks Hillary, he convinces another Clinton supporter to vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mary | June 3, 2008 7:21 PM

Really, Mary? You're all so pathetic and weak that you change your vote based on an 'attack' on a blog?

And I thought Hillary was exaggerating when she called her supporters freaktards.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Party needs to be rescued from the Clintons, not just for its own good, but for the good of the country."

Both Clintons are felons. The last thing Obama needs is BubbaZipper lurking in the hallways in his overcoat, on the lookout for interns.

I nominate Obama for Mt. Rushmore, for making a second Billary infestation of the White House impossible.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 3, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

During the 2008 primary campaigns, however, I reluctantly came to recognize that Hillary is the Clinton with the graver character flaws: I now regard her as a corrupt, lying, power-mad demagogue.

The Party needs to be rescued from the Clintons, not just for its own good, but for the good of the country.

If Obama selects Hillary as his VP, I will vote Republican for the first time in my life.

Posted by: Pat S | June 3, 2008 8:33 PM

My gut level assessment of the Clintons has always been: he's weak but she's evil. And I think that at least that basic outline became clear to anyone with an open mind over the past six months. And don't worry--she will NOT be on the ticket. No Way. No How.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Go feminists, go. As you vote for McCain remember not only Roe v Wade (because it is never about a single issue), but also:

*lower wages for the same work
*high taxes for single Moms and other middle class families
*your sons drafted and dying in Iraq, because this country cannot continue to fight two wars on two fronts with a volunteer army stretched to the hilt with redeployments (remember Napolean?)
*ever more elusive access to health care because you cannot afford it
*more tax breaks for the rich
*the list is endless...

You will reap what you vote for or don't vote for. I wish you and our country good luck because with American's like you we will need it. (I've always admired pettiness over patriotism and intellect.)

Your graciousness regarding Obama's win is overwhelming and heart warming. (NOT!)

Posted by: Oh women thou art... | June 3, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

All these posts really don't mean all that much.
When it comes down to it Obama and his campaign will not and should not offer Hillary the VP slot.
She is a strong person and will run over him,,,be it on purpose(most likely) or just because she is strong willed.
This issue will be danced around until it is annouced that Obama picked someone else.
Hillary and Barack simple are oil and water. They could never work together and they dont want to work together. They would be at each others throats in private so much that this country would suffer.
Obama would be more likely to chose Edwards/Richardson/Reid or an as yet unknown VP candidate. By saying he is not asking VP's he is dancing around the Clinton option and by saying she would consider it she is dancing around the fact it hasnt been offered.
So all our comments and nasty remarks or rude remarks don't amount to a hill of beans.
Only thing anyone can do is make their best informed decision come November. Race/Gender/Age/Party Affiliation/Military Experiance should not be a decision maker.

Posted by: Lynn | June 3, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Its in American DNA to stand for individualism vs. Dynastic inheritance of power.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 8:31 PM

This is the ultimate issue of this election and after 20 years of two corrupt and self serving families, Americans our taking our Country back. Our Founding Fathers would be proud.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

NO VP SLOT FOR CLINTON!

NO!

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

NO!

Hillary Clinton is the most divisive, REPUBLICAN WING NUT RELIGIO-FACIST BASE ENERGIZING candidate I've EVER seen!

We just REJECTED her and now she's asking her senate friends to "ask her to consider VP"... How charming. How TYPICAL is it for the MSM toi actually repeat the rediculous charade as if it were genuine. Like we're gonna swallow THAT.

TYPICAL. And completely DISINGENUOUS LIKE SHE ALWAYS IS.

THE WEASELING LAWYER IS "ON THE SLIME" YET AGAIN!

Obama/Sebelius
Obama/Hagel
Obama/Napolitano
Obama/Richardson

But NEVER, EVER, NOT-IN-A-MILLION-YEARS
"Obama/DinasaurpoliticianClinton"

DON'T YOU KOOL-AID DRINKERS EVER LEARN?

The misandrist voter, and the "Latino voter" (if there is such a monolithic block which I seriously doubt exists outside of the ghetto) are just going to have to choose between "Bushco-III", and an African American Statesman President.

Posted by: JBE | June 3, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I am a 58-year old woman who votes in Pennsylvania. I have always voted Democratic. Obviously, that means I voted twice for Bill Clinton. He disappointed me - the scandals, the character flaws. But I always admired Hillary as strong, intelligent, and compassionate.

During the 2008 primary campaigns, however, I reluctantly came to recognize that Hillary is the Clinton with the graver character flaws: I now regard her as a corrupt, lying, power-mad demagogue.

The Party needs to be rescued from the Clintons, not just for its own good, but for the good of the country.

If Obama selects Hillary as his VP, I will vote Republican for the first time in my life.

Posted by: Pat S | June 3, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Good for you you finally figured out what your name was instead of being an unnamed jerk, lmao.


news paper articales. Can you understand my above comment now?

So if I had been refrencing any prior posts I simply could have used there name

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM

"articales"
"refrencing"
"there name"

This is your spelling and grammatical ability and other people are in ignorant bliss?

And no, I can't understand comments from ignorant retards who couldn't pass a fourth grade spelling test.

The one thing Hillary Clinton speaks the truth about, though, is that her supporters are dumber than dirt.

Posted by: lynnisadumbass | June 3, 2008 8:28 PM


Posted by: press in NM | June 3, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Hillary stands more for dynastic rule rather than any feminist standard bearer.

Same goes for most of female leaders around the world.

Indira Gandhi - Daughter of Nehru
Benazir Bhutto - Daughter of Bhutto
SriLanka - same
Argentina - wife of ex-President
Bangladesh - same (one widow against another).

Two female leaders standout in the world as true victory for feminist cause.

1. Margaret Thatcher
2. Angela Merkel (Whose shoulders Bush was trying to massage a few months ago)

France came close but the lady lost out.

Now lets see what Hillary claims.

1. First lady of Arkansas
2. First lady of US
3. Ready from day one (based on the experience of being married to the guy).

Will it really be a victory for feminism in US. Is this kind of victory really what feminists want ?

She lost not because of sexism but because of horrible mismanagement of the campaign - the one thing that give us all a preview of her management style (besides her handling of universal health care). Sexism is certainly a factor just like being black or from south or whatever is a factor.

Her run however will stand as a milestone for feminist cause in US. Because of it no one in US will ever seriously question if any woman can run or govern.

I see very vocal tiny shiver of female supporters of hers voicing disapproval and threatening deflection to McCain. (Really !?! and that helps your candidate how ? If Obama looses you folks serious think all Obama supporters will line up for Hillary in 2012 ?)

Their slogan is Sexism/Feminism. By and large all Hillary supporters I know (my wife included) seem to be fine, moved on.

There is an interesting article here.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/2/183142/3699/191/527650

Media always loves a good story and will do everything to keep it alive. They highlight this minority as hanger bearer of division.

Sure there is disappointment but I doubt if is on the rabid scale a few posters here seem to indicate.

I honestly think, for this fraction, if not sexism they will be screaming some other excuse.

Its in American DNA to stand for individualism vs. Dynastic inheritance of power.

By an large most women know this subconsciously.

I really do not think its cause of concern. If Obama looses he will loose because of his faults. The challenges are known and their is time to work hard.

God help us all.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Obama will pick Hillary to be his VP but I also believe he will NOT win if he doesn't. I know that my vote will go to McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket!

Posted by: Dr. Cara Hollander | June 3, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton should not demean herself with the VP spot. She is a powerful senator who can bring the bacon home to NY.

Posted by: JWB | June 3, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

news paper articales. Can you understand my above comment now?

So if I had been refrencing any prior posts I simply could have used there name

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM

"articales"
"refrencing"
"there name"

This is your spelling and grammatical ability and other people are in ignorant bliss?

And no, I can't understand comments from ignorant retards who couldn't pass a fourth grade spelling test.

The one thing Hillary Clinton speaks the truth about, though, is that her supporters are dumber than dirt.

Posted by: lynnisadumbass | June 3, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary is Barack's VP, he'd have to hire a squad of food tasters.

Posted by: Leo | June 3, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

This stuff about experience is nonsense. The least experienced of the three, Barack Obama could see through the pro-war propaganda. The correct decision when you get a 3 am phone call is what matters- not how old you are when you make the decision.
Obama spoke up against the war in Chicago on Oct 11, 2002 when it was difficult and unpopular to do so. The new book from inside the White House illustrates the shenanigans that went on to push us into a phony war. Obama is the more patriotic of the 3 contenders because he opposed wasting American lives on an unjustified war. I will go for the candidate who is in no way responsible for killing 4,000 of my fellow Americans, who died for no good reason whatsoever. True patriotism is having the guts to do what Obama did instead of caving in to Bush's idiocy for personal political expedience.
Far from Obama being ageist, it is McCain that is discriminating on the basis of age, forever harping on about Obama's "inexperience".

Posted by: Bill Kane | June 3, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

All these posts really don't mean all that much.
When it comes down to it Obama and his campaign will not and should not offer Hillary the VP slot.
She is a strong person and will run over him,,,be it on purpose(most likely) or just because she is strong willed.
This issue will be danced around until it is annouced that Obama picked someone else.
Hillary and Barack simple are oil and water. They could never work together and they dont want to work together. They would be at each others throats in private so much that this country would suffer.
Obama would be more likely to chose Edwards/Richardson/Reid or an as yet unknown VP candidate. By saying saying he is not asking VP's yet he is dancing around Clinton option and she by saying she would consider it she is dancing around the fact it hasnt been offered.
So all our comments and nasty remarks or rude remarks don't amoutn to a hill of beans.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama won't have secret service after November if he doesn't get elected, while Hillary will continue enjoying the secret service we paid for.

"Hillary is "willing" to consider V.P.."
sounds so funny as if Obama is begging her to be his V.P.

Worse yet, Hillary leaked her interest through her friends in the Senate.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Who cares who his VP choice is?

He'd lose if Jesus Christ himself endorsed him.

He's black, a closet muslim, a member of racist church which is apparently the new home of the black panthers and a weekend retreat for Louis Farrakahn, and his middle name is Hussein.

Posted by: WTF???????? | June 3, 2008 8:15 PM

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is.
I'm just going to lie and say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Our voices must be heard, otherwise we will continue to be second-class citizens. Roe vs Wade is just one battle: the war against women is much greater than a single battle. The Democratic party is a sly perpetrator of sexism, and must pay the price. I will vote for McCain in November.

Posted by: Marianne | June 3, 2008 7:28 PM

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. I could care less that Obama is a champion of women's rights with a 100% rating from NARAL. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care.

I could care less that McCain laughed hysterically on camera when someone called Hillary a bit*h or that he has said Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me and the ONLY thing that matters is ME. Until the Democratic Party BLINDLY rubber stamps all female Democratic candidates for President--no matter what rules they break or how often they lie, cheat, steal, race bait and assassination dream--This is what they get!

We will promise to swing the election but--just like the paltry few who showed up to demonstrate for Hillary's 'suffrage movement'--we won't make any difference whatsoever in preventing President Obama's victory.

Posted by: satire | June 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

How telling. Sen. Hillary Clinton could not even be gracious on the night the Democratic primary race comes to a close and she is not the winner. As usual, the night has to be about her instead of the party or the American people (ref her VP comments).

No one is fooled that she was merely answering a question. The question was clearly planted by her and her supporters to spoil the night for the Democrats.

Sen Clinton could well be determining her own political demise by her self-centered actions cloaked in party unity. One thing, if she is perceived as causing Sen Obama's defeat or as trying to blackmail Sen Obama,
she will never win another national election as a Democrat.

Posted by: vgirl1 | June 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

El Latino - callate. No sabes nada.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | June 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Who cares who his VP choice is?

He'd lose if Jesus Christ himself endorsed him.

He's black, a closet muslim, a member of racist church which is apparently the new home of the black panthers and a weekend retreat for Louis Farrakahn, and his middle name is Hussein.

Posted by: WTF???????? | June 3, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns....

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:02 PM

Really? Then why did Hillary bring it up? I have never heard ANY candidate talk about their "hard working American" "White American" support before.

It's disgusting and so are you for supporting such a race baiting piece of trash as Hillary Clinton. As far as being a racist, I haven't seen anyone accuse you of that, so why don't you keep your few brain cells focused, if you're able.

Posted by: | June 3, 2008 8:08 PM

You can't even put a name to your posts and you can not even understand what I posted.

Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns....

She did yes........but she didnt have to...correct. It is brought up by many Obama supporters,,,be it over the phone...on tv interviews, internet or news paper articales. Can you understand my above comment now?
Also to help you understand my post better I never once accused anyone here on this site calling me anything...did you see me mention anyones name??? Everyone here is using a name for there posts.......well most everyone. So if I had been refrencing any prior posts I simply could have used there name couldn't I? lol
But thank you for bringing to light my point....ignorance must be your bliss.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Rodham Clinton Independent (_X_)

Posted by: Active Duty | June 3, 2008 8:10 PM

You might want to watch the news or read this article. She's begging to be the VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I have supported Obama since before he declared his candidacy. I would support an Obama-Clinton ticket, but unless Bill has a terminal illness he's keeping mum about there is no such thing as an Obama-Clinton ticket there is only a Clinton-Obama-Clinton ticket. If I want drama I have Netflix.

Posted by: muD | June 3, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. I could care less that Obama is a champion of women's rights with a 100% rating from NARAL. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care.

I could care less that McCain laughed hysterically on camera when someone called Hillary a bit*h or that he has said Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me and the ONLY thing that matters is ME. Until the Democratic Party BLINDLY rubber stamps all female Democratic candidates for President--no matter what rules they break or how often they lie, cheat, steal, race bait and assassination dream--This is what they get!

We will promise to swing the election but--just like the paltry few who showed up to demonstrate for Hillary's 'suffrage movement'--we won't make any difference whatsoever in preventing President Obama's victory.

Posted by: satire | June 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

November 2008 ELECTION BALLOT
--------------------------------------------
For President of the United States:

John McCain Republican (___)

Barack Hussein Obama Democrat (___)

Hillary Rodham Clinton Independent (_X_)

Posted by: Active Duty | June 3, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns....

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:02 PM

Really? Then why did Hillary bring it up? I have never heard ANY candidate talk about their "hard working American" "White American" support before.

It's disgusting and so are you for supporting such a race baiting piece of trash as Hillary Clinton. As far as being a racist, I haven't seen anyone accuse you of that, so why don't you keep your few brain cells focused, if you're able.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

If this campaign has proven *anything*, it is that Hillary Rodham Clinton is *not* - repeat, NOT - a team player.

Why would *anyone* (except, perhaps John McCain) want her on their team?

They'd have to be a masochist (or a death wish).

Posted by: Carmen Cameron | June 3, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons, who I loved when they battled the Reaganauts in the 90's, were willing to burn the Democratic house to the ground to win the nomination. They would have lost in November, because many would have left the party in November( i.e the young white, black, brown and blacks wholesale) and never come back. This contest is not racial, but generational. Barack is the Bill Clinton who could not win in '92; Bill and Hilary Clinton cannot see it because they have been in power too long. Bill Clinton once said he would not see a black president in his lifetime. Barack is not afraid to run; he is not afraid to lose. He already defines the coming generation.

Posted by: eastort1 | June 3, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons, who I loved when they battled the Reaganauts in the 90's, were willing to burn the Democratic house to the ground to win the nomination. They would have lost in November, because many would have left the party in November( i.e the young white, black, brown and blacks wholesale) and never come back. This contest is not racial, but generational. Barack is the Bill Clinton who could not win in '92; Bill and Hilary Clinton cannot see it because they have been in power too long. Bill Clinton once said he would not see a black president in his lifetime. Barack is not afraid to run; he is not afraid to lose. He already defines the coming generation.

Posted by: eastort1 | June 3, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I used the misspellings to get your attention! I see you can use english great. His middle name is ..... But you use it to equate him to a tyrant or person that promotes fear my friend. You are the idiot might I add a person of limited brain power and a sore loser.

Posted by: TGibson | June 3, 2008 7:59 PM

WTF IS THIS GIBBERISH?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Dear T Gibson, apart from having to give you spelling lessons, it appears I must now take you to school on English grammar. You might want to look up that chapter on the use of punctuation. You continue to prove you are an idiot. Keep it up.

Posted by: Latno | June 3, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

This is what makes me sick of the years Dem. nomination race: ignoranance to this degree:

Hey let's face facts, Obama carries the Muslim vote at 100%!! Can Hillary or McCain do that in the general election? Duh, not a chance.

Posted by: Muslims for Obama | June 3, 2008 7:46 PM

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is.
I'm just going to lie and say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah


Posted by: | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM

I'm a 36yr old White Female in Colorado,,I am also a Hillary supporter....does that make me racist???? NO!!.........Do I get accused of racism over and over again? YES... I get accused of being racist by Obama supporters that do not know me one bit. They do not know my many African American friends or even my family members who are African American. Ignorance must be bliss because this country is swimming in ignorant registered voters.
Sadly Obama and Clinton or even McCain would never have to bring up the issue of Race or Gender in their campaigns.......the American people will do it for them.
When it comes right down to it we haven't really progressed all that much have we? There is still tons of hate and racism in this country and for those that honestly aren't racist it will never matter because people will belive you are no matter what you do or say.
I am sure that come November if I don't vote Obama I will once again be accused of racism. Nobody will see that my vote might be based on his lack of experiance or that he is not strong enough to unite all those he needs to or that I might disagree on some of the issues. All they will see is a white woman voting against a black man.
It makes me sick..........but even more than that it makes me want to weep for this country that will forever see color before anything else.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

And given that the majority of Americans of color (latinos) have been insulted by so many blacks and latte drinkers during this democratic primary (to include this very blog), I figure the republicans are safe to win the Presidency indefinitely.

Posted by: Republican | June 3, 2008 7:58 PM

THINK AGAIN! THE LATINOS MIGHT BE A TAD BIT MORE 'INSULTED' BY THE WALL MCCAIN IS BACK TO BUILDING TO KEEP THEM OUT.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I used the misspellings to get your attention! I see you can use english great. His middle name is ..... But you use it to equate him to a tyrant or person that promotes fear my friend. You are the idiot might I add a person of limited brain power and a sore loser.

Posted by: TGibson | June 3, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't want Clinton on the ticket. After this primary I have no reason to vote for Obama and I don't want my decision clouded by having her on the ticket. All the commentators on MSNBC and CNN have heaped their praise on Obama and his team as being so smart and so out in front....and they didn't want Clinton earlier so it's the big time now so let's see how they do without Clinton.

Posted by: | June 3, 2008 7:40 PM

No one from Obama's camp wants her--not now not ever. NOW SHE'S BEGGING, THOUGH....

SHE IS BEGGING....

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

This is so funny to watch democrats calling each other racists! I never thought I would see it! Jesse Jackson and Oprah must be so proud. You'll lose the election but you liberals will "feel good" doing it. And you wonder why you cannot win elections. Like it or not, the election for the President of the USA is not an election for the President of just people of color or latte drinkers. And given that the majority of Americans of color (latinos) have been insulted by so many blacks and latte drinkers during this democratic primary (to include this very blog), I figure the republicans are safe to win the Presidency indefinitely.

Posted by: Republican | June 3, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party essentially tried to "Pimp" Hillary. She got all the votes and they gave them to Obama!

Posted by: politicalone | June 3, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

The headline of this article states that Hillary is being "urged to accept" the VP post. This is clearly untrue. The article says nothing about that. So who exactly "urges" her? Instead the article clearly states that Madame would be graciously prepared to accept the post just in case somebody should decide to offer it to her, but so far no offers.

Posted by: Bodo | June 3, 2008 7:50 PM

Those 'urging' her were her own supporters from NY State. And, right. NO OFFERS. NOT NOW OR EVER...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

i don,t want a raceiest first lady in my white house

Posted by: mary | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM

Your first concern, Mary, should be that you don't know how to spell.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey let's face facts, Obama carries the Muslim vote at 100%!! Can Hillary or McCain do that in the general election? Duh, not a chance.

Posted by: Muslims for Obama | June 3, 2008 7:46 PM

Blah blah blah Reverend Wright Blah Blah Racism Blah Blah
I am a racist with a poor education and even less net worth.
I am thus pretty low on the socio-economic totem pole and easily threatened.
I mean everyone knows African Americans are racist.
That's why we made them slaves. Clearly they started it.
I never took psychology and have no idea what transference is.
I'm just going to lie and say: I'm not a racist, but Obama is and hope it sticks.
Blah blah blah Muslim Blah Blah Blah Hussein Blah Blah Blah

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

i don,t want a raceiest first lady in my white house

Posted by: mary | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

i don,t want a raceiest first lady in my white house

Posted by: mary | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama would be LUCKY if Hillary agrees to be on the ticket. She brings experience, intelligence and a lot of women supporters. Otherwise, he may not win.

Posted by: Monique from NC | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM
____________________________________________

Clinton supporters have posted that they would not support Obama even if Hillary were on the ticket. They have done so numerous times, including in this very thread. If she could bring along her supporters, Obama would probably name her as his running mate. But there is no indication she can add more than voters than the number of Hillary-haters he would lose. Then, too, Obama needs a running mate who will be a second fiddle, and Hillary has never been that. According to Vanity Fair, she refused to play second fiddle to VP Al Gore when they were in the White House.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

The headline of this article states that Hillary is being "urged to accept" the VP post. This is clearly untrue. The article says nothing about that. So who exactly "urges" her? Instead the article clearly states that Madame would be graciously prepared to accept the post just in case somebody should decide to offer it to her, but so far no offers.

Posted by: Bodo | June 3, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

This got cut from last post so will say it another way.

McCain = lesser or greater of two evils, or the devil you know.

Obama = greater or lesser of two evils, or the devil you don't know.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 7:47 PM

This is gibberish, dumbass.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I am a feminist, and there is no way I will support Obama. I would rather see the feminist movement die than see Obama become president. I was really hurt that Clinton did not get the nomination. Now McCain gets my vote. I could care less that Obama is a champion of women's rights with a 100% rating from NARAL. I hope McCain turns back the strides in equal rights for women--as he has promised to do--for all I care.

I could care less that McCain laughed hysterically on camera when someone called Hillary a bit*h or that he has said Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father. My bruised feelings are of primary importance to me and the ONLY thing that matters is ME. Until the Democratic Party BLINDLY rubber stamps all female Democratic candidates for President--no matter what rules they break or how often they lie, cheat, steal, race bait and assassination dream--This is what they get!

We will promise to swing the election but--just like the paltry few who showed up to demonstrate for Hillary's 'suffrage movement'--we won't make any difference whatsoever in preventing President Obama's victory.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

As he expressed in a speech Senator Obama would sign into law a new AMNESTY. We as the American people must realize it's our last chance to demand the Democrats endorse the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R. 4088) Leading Democrats are using threats of estrangement from campaign contributions, against any of party members who co-author the law. This enforcement bill would no longer allow parasite employers, to escape prison. Be aware hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens are fleeing states that have enacted their own legislation. The SAVE ACT is the iron gauntlet, that encompasses all state law, and guarantees extra funding to (ICE)

The exodus proves these laws are working? A federal law clarifies that illegal families will leave this nation of their own accord. America cannot afford Barack Obama, Mrs Clinton or John McCain passing another AMNESTY.

Posted by: Brittanicus | June 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

How pathetic is it that the Democrats realize they're nominating a candidate who can't win in November and they have to beg the one who can win to take the VP slot because they know their boy doesn't have a chance without her.

Say "NO!" Hillary. The party has treated you like dirt. They need you more than you need them. Don't do it!!!

Posted by: Lynn | June 3, 2008 7:39 PM

How pathetic you are, Lynn. She's the one begging to be on the ticket, dumbass. And the winner does not need the loser to win.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

This got cut from last post so will say it another way.

McCain = lesser or greater of two evils, or the devil you know.

Obama = greater or lesser of two evils, or the devil you don't know.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey let's face facts, Obama carries the Muslim vote at 100%!! Can Hillary or McCain do that in the general election? Duh, not a chance.

Posted by: Muslims for Obama | June 3, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Dear Hmmm,

the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

Sadley experiance wise McCain is better qualified than Obama.
Some times I guess it would be compared to chosing the lesser of 2 evils? maybe maybe not. Or better the devil you know than the one you don't? I have heard both those sayings over the years from many older voters and relatives. So when it comes to November the choices will be.

McCain = >

Obama = >

I am in no way saying I'm correct but some will look at November in that light.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

She'll do what LBJ did to JFK.

Posted by: Keep Hillary Out | June 3, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

She couldn't be less interested in what is best for the Democratic party. It's her. Period. She is ramming it down Obama's throat. She won't even acknowledge that he has won. This is not uniting the party, it is destroying it. Hillary could have run a positive campaign. She did not. Again and again she had that choice. She did not take it. She has that choice tonight. She will not take it.

For her to be rewarded for this race baiting, gender bending, any means whatsoever justifies the end is despicable. It's horrific. It's like rewarding Bush and Rove for McCain's black baby. It's like saying yes in neon letters to all the nastiness and low ball calculations that Clinton put into her 3 o'clock fear mongering strategy, her cocaine surrogates, her incessant focus on Wright, her insistence that the only thing that counts is electing a woman, breaking a glass ceiling, her "Barac is not a Muslim,... that I know of". Her campaign has been 99 percent negative, 100 percent Republican. It's the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

It would be better to loose every vote in the US than to put her on the ticket.

Posted by: Chris | June 3, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Lynn - we're begging her NOT to be VP....

She's feeble and is only getting better at it with practice.

Posted by: Jen | June 3, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

She couldn't be less interested in what is best for the Democratic party. It's her. Period. She is ramming it down Obama's throat. She won't even acknowledge that he has won. This is not uniting the party, it is destroying it. Hillary could have run a positive campaign. She did not. Again and again she had that choice. She did not take it. She has that choice tonight. She will not take it.

For her to be rewarded for this race baiting, gender bending, any means whatsoever justifies the end is despicable. It's horrific. It's like rewarding Bush and Rove for McCain's black baby. It's like saying yes in neon letters to all the nastiness and low ball calculations that Clinton put into her 3 o'clock fear mongering strategy, her cocaine surrogates, her incessant focus on Wright, her insistence that the only thing that counts is electing a woman, breaking a glass ceiling, her "Barac is not a Muslim,... that I know of". Her campaign has been 99 percent negative, 100 percent Republican. It's the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

It would be better to loose every vote in the US than to put her on the ticket.

Posted by: Hmmm | June 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

*With focus of Obama and Hillary*

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 3, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't want Clinton on the ticket. After this primary I have no reason to vote for Obama and I don't want my decision clouded by having her on the ticket. All the commentators on MSNBC and CNN have heaped their praise on Obama and his team as being so smart and so out in front....and they didn't want Clinton earlier so it's the big time now so let's see how they do without Clinton.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Tracy wrote: "Go on, keep slandering and demonizing Hillary. Millions of women will vote for McCain in November."

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Hillary is her mother and Janet Reno is her father."
Sen John McCain, GOP fundraiser, June 1998

Don't believe me McCain said this? Google it.

Posted by: OD | June 3, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

How pathetic is it that the Democrats realize they're nominating a candidate who can't win in November and they have to beg the one who can win to take the VP slot because they know their boy doesn't have a chance without her.

Say "NO!" Hillary. The party has treated you like dirt. They need you more than you need them. Don't do it!!!

Posted by: Lynn | June 3, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I can Totally see Sebelius! Honestly, thinking about the issues, this would be some form of history with these two. However, with everything that has taken place with these two, it is very Hard for me to see how that will work. Furthermore, I would question if it were worth it for those who threat to vote McCain. What would be the outcome of Hillary as VP. I want to say it would be worth it for the rest who share common views on the issues, apart from the rest out of protest in these highly important times. The Republicans, the Independents, all of the other potential picks....if Obama is the nominee, he will have a lot to consider. I believe the Dem can take on McCain, but I believe that if he's going to do it, he'd be wise to choose in a form that will serve helpful and beneficial. I'll support any ticket as long as a Dem gets that White House this time. He can always assign significant positions. We have some credible talent here to choose from. I find it important to figure out the helpful strategic path, definitely.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

From the Democratic Party point of view and on the issues Hillary Clinton is closer to Barrack Obama,the DEmocratic Party will have a very strong showing and a high posssibility of a landslide win in November 2008 if HRC and BHO are paired as VP and President,personally they need not be soul-mate as long as the political issues unite them,a prime example was George Herbert Walker Bush being VP to Ronald Reagan in 1980 and GOP won big ! George HW Bush's voodoo economics attack on Ronald Reagan didn't hurt him as a selection for VP !Politics should be about the issues,personal likes and dislikes are just cultural issues,if they can HRC & BHO unite on a unified Democratic Party's platform that's what the DNC is for ultimately___win Elections for the Party.And Senator Hillary Clinton is good fighter and champion of the Democratic Party ! Barrack Obama might lose the November Elections if HIllary Clinton isn't on the ticket,its like a Mother and Son ticket for Pax Americana Libre !


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Posted by: Gerald C W Heng/Boston/MA | June 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

She couldn't be less interested in what is best for the Democratic party. It's her. Period. She is ramming it down Obama's throat. She won't even acknowledge that he has won. This is not uniting the party, it is destroying it. Hillary could have run a positive campaign. She did not. Again and again she had that choice. She did not take it. She has that choice tonight. She will not take it.

For her to be rewarded for this race baiting, gender bending, any means whatsoever justifies the end is despicable. It's horrific. It's like rewarding Bush and Rove for McCain's black baby. It's like saying yes in neon letters to all the nastiness and low ball calculations that Clinton put into her 3 o'clock fear mongering strategy, her cocaine surrogates, her incessant focus on Wright, her insistence that the only thing that counts is electing a woman, breaking a glass ceiling, her "Barac is not a Muslim,... that I know of". Her campaign has been 99 percent negative, 100 percent Republican. It's the only time I've ever heard a Democrat say that the Republican opponent was better suited to lead than the person of her own party.

It would be better to loose every vote in the US than to put her on the ticket.

Posted by: Hmmm | June 3, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and her supporters are useless pigs.

McCain in 08!

Posted by: John | June 3, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I am a woman, I am a senior , 81 years young and still run a small business. I cannot, at this time, vote for a man who is backed and revered by Anti Americans , and will not be a Pres. we will be proud of.

Hillary, the ins and outs of politics is not one of my strong points, but if helping the Dems by running as an Independant, do it. Obama will not be voted in as President without you. In the long run the Democratic party and the Nation will suffer if he is in the White House.

Only Oprah will benefit. She will change and redecorate. She will remake the first lady and someone will give her a key to the front door. What a mess!

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | June 3, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Lynn, you are a smart woman...must be cause you're from Colorado, like me :)

But yes, you are right, all politicians know their dirty tricks, and to a large degree, I think anyone who runs for president is extremely self-serving. Why would you ever want that job?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

To: Marianne | June 3, 2008 7:28 PM
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Is that you Rush!?

Sorry Mr Rush Stooge - your logic is something only a druggie could inspire!

Posted by: Sally | June 3, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

How will Hillary answer the question of does she think Obama is qualified to be President on his ticket when she has said he isn't?!

I second that motion...

Obama / Sebelius '08!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | June 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

If and it's a big if Obama were to ever offer Hillary the VP postion she would be stupid to accept. She is a President material not VP/second fiddle material, again. Also if she were to ever accept it if Obama loses to McCain come November Obama supporters will put all the blame on her shoulders and not his. That being said this is politics people. Obama hasn't offered her the VP position and she hasn't accepted it....personally I think they are just dancing around the VP issue because they both know there is no way in hell they will every willing be on the same ticket. Yes publically she will have to support him.....just as he would have to support her. But in reality they would be slitting each others throats in a heartbeat. Some say that she has played dirty......well guess what it's Politics not Choir Practice. If anyone thinks Obama doesn't know how to play dirty your fooling yourselves. He did not get to where he is now without knowing the same tricks that ALL politicains know.

Posted by: Lynn in Colorado | June 3, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Karen, that is true...veterans benefits have gone pretty downhill.

It is, however, my belief that McCain's position on the new GI Bill is correct. We will lose all of our best NCOs; they will do their 4 years and jump ship to go to college. To get out, you should have to put in. I will be taking full advantage of my GI Bill benefits when I get out. Sure, it cost me 1,200 dollars. Worth every penny I think.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Liberal men are very condescending. After slandering Clinton and her supporters for so long, they think they can talk to us about "the issues"? Not gonna happen.

Posted by: Karla | June 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama / Sebelius '08!

Posted by: America | June 3, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Our voices must be heard, otherwise we will continue to be second-class citizens. Roe vs Wade is just one battle: the war against women is much greater than a single battle. The Democratic party is a sly perpetrator of sexism, and must pay the price. I will vote for McCain in November.

Posted by: Marianne | June 3, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Dear T Gibson, you need to learn how to spell English before telling others they must use it! You idiot.

Vete a mierda tambien hijo de puta.

Posted by: El Latino | June 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

New politics, new math: Hillary doesn't add, she divides

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | June 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Hussein his middle name ?

Posted by: Jack | June 3, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

One more thing, Aoife...you spelled 'you're' wrong. Tell me to go back to school? You can't even use the right form of YOU'RE. YOU'RE an idiot.

Posted by: ryan | June 3, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

To Jane, who claims that she is a Hillary supporter but will vote for McCain over Obama:

As a true feminist, I would remind you and all those so-called feminists out there that John McCain would probably have to fill from one to three vacancies on the Supreme Court. He is not only against abortion, he is against birth control (Griswold v. Connecticut as a reference case). My question is this: are the feminists who are themselves beyond childbearing age willing to sacrifice the rights of younger women in this country because their chosen one wasn't picked for the nomination? I am fed up with this kind of threatening from the Clinton supporters ("If Obama gets the nomination, I'm staying home or voting for McCain"). When you make statements like that, you cannot possibly call yourself a feminist. I have been working for equality and reproductive rights since 1972 and I don't plan on stopping now. I owe it to ALL the women in this country. "Feminists", who are you really for? Please, remember the ladies....

Posted by: Susan | June 3, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

to El Latino first use of english to debate is a coutesy. Racist not at all you are using the term HUSSEIN to raise fear and hate you are the racist and your comment by far was the most ignorant piece of slime on any blog that I've ever seen.

Posted by: TGibson | June 3, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Go on, keep slandering and demonizing Hillary. Millions of women will vote for McCain in November.

Posted by: Tracy | June 3, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Hillary fans, sometimes you need to accept defeat to retain your dignity. And didn't Obama already choose a Vice President and reject the notion to join with Hilary. Obama will loose too much for what he stood for if they joined, they are too different to join and there will be too much problems down the track. Obama will loose too many supporters if he makes her his Vice, Its e logical after all that conflict. Its typical a Clinton that doesn't want to accept defeat, she is too self centered and can't be s great president or leader.

Posted by: Australian View | June 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

New politics, new math:

Hillary doesn't add, she divides

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | June 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't even unite the Democrats. How will he unite the country? I'll vote for McCain, thanks.

Posted by: Beatrice | June 3, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Uh, I was agreeing with you...but ok. Easy there champ. That invitation to those groups were sarcastic...I live in Denver and they had better stay the hell out.

I guess I don't know anything about real politics. You post comments on a blog, you expert. You know it all, I bow down.

And my apologies for not realizing your name was a woman's name...SORRY. How the hell am I supposed to know that? Oh, I guess EVERYONE knows that, and I am an 18-year-old idiot.

You don't even know how old I am. Grow up. Nice insults on the internet. God you're smart.

Posted by: ryan | June 3, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Every time an Obama supporter attacks Hillary, he convinces another Clinton supporter to vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mary | June 3, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama should avoid Hillary. She undermines his message of New Politics.

She knew she was crossing the line when she said working class whites will vote for her. It was a tasteless Clinton comment that lacked any subtleness.
Her campaign was ran poorly. She succeeded in lowering the standard of what a 'win' is. I would be glad to see the Clinton brand move on, but it seems that the older generations are comfortable keeping them around.

Her comments about
obliterating Iran
shows her NeoCon darkside.
Why doesn't she run with McCain?

Posted by: Paul P | June 3, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I was an avid supporter of HRC primarily because of her stand on health care many moons ago. However, in my opion she is now acting like a spoiled child. BHO can'y posibly take her as VP if change is his platform. She has caused division in the party and insulted many Black- Americans that have historically supported the Clintons. It is beyond time for her to bow out gracefully and encourage her 17mil supporters to vote for BHO. McCain is not a choice gas at over 4usd per gallon, no gnp, unfair trade, more war do I need to say more to any American that loves our country,

Posted by: TGibson | June 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I never was so troubled about our nation's future as I am this evening. At this point I honestly could not vote for Obama. I do not have a drop of faith for this man's integrety and motives. My readings leave me with the impression he will take down America and if Hillary is chosen by him to be his VP, he will destroy a wonderful future candidate for yhe country. I am as sad and worried as any good, loving American can be

Posted by: lynn parker. | June 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Miren todos, Obama es un racista en contra de los latinos y blancos. Vete a la mierda senor HUSSEIN Obama.

Posted by: El Latino | June 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

While I respect the opinions of the Active Marine and applaud his service .. I want to say that my father was career military and I take great pride in this. However, under George Bush, his retirement benefits have been reduced! And what the Republican party (Sen McCain among them) has done to degrade the military service is disgraceful (cutting corners in their haste for war and losing lives as a result, lying to families (see Pat Tillman), paying huge salaries to contractors, etc). You want four more years of that?? While he is a war hero, McCain sold out to the flawed policies of Bush and for that reason I will not vote for him.

Posted by: Karen | June 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Many of Obama's supporters are filled with hate: many of them are "sore winners". I will vote for McCain in November.

Posted by: Tiffany | June 3, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

If Chipmunk(Hillary) wants to be considered for veep...why is she still dragging this thing out. It is not going to endear her to Obama. She has show than she is selfish..and ignored the fact that she had lost this thing sometime ago. She wants to do anything to beat McCain in November...why didn`t she drop out and get behind Barrack..that would have done some real GOOD.

Posted by: Peter | June 3, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

"I bet he could not find Iraq on a map if he tried.."

Except he has visited it...Obama won't even do that. I bet half the people on here right now are incredibly worldly 18 year old kids. Remember how you knew it all at 18? I do too.

Yes, Bush got us into a war...let's tuck and run, leave the country in shambles. In case you pay attention to anything, the UN just said Iraq is much improved, and 'hope' is the keyword. Additionally, US deaths in Iraq just hit a 4-year low...yep. Things sure are going terribly.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary, go Independent, The democratic party betrayed you. You do not need party. Independent.

Posted by: Alex | June 3, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

oops- @ 7:14 should read: Hillary voted for the war until it was no longer popular to support it..

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

aoife is a wise man.

please, come to denver and protest at the dnc like codepink and america can't wait and all these other worthless groups.

typical liberals, hold signs to change things.

Posted by: ryan | June 3, 2008 7:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>
Hey Ryan, code pick? you must be joking, your showing your age of 18, go back to school and try to get educated, this is real politics, Oh and btw Aoife is a womans name it's irish

hillary 2012
go McCain 08

Posted by: aoife | June 3, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama cannot win without women, Latinos, seniors, and the white working class.

Posted by: Jenny | June 3, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Clinton = Judas of the Democrats

Posted by: James | June 3, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

To all those supporting Billary and crying over the FL and MI DNC decision.. Please don't forget that Hillary voted AGAINST counting FL and MI delegates until she needed them.. Hillary voted FOR the support it... Hillary says Obama 'can't' be a elected as president but is "willing" to be a VP on his ticket.. Hillary goes whichever way the wind takes her.. I don't need her 'mispeaking' at 3 am when the phone rings as she did from 'exhaustion' when she remembered sniper fire that never happened..

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

This Hillary supporter still would not vote for Obama!
Wish Hillary would run as an independent.

Posted by: CLSmith | June 3, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should not accept the VP slot. She should take it to the convention.

Posted by: Pattie | June 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe what i'm reading from some of you. No wonder this country is so screwed up and no wonder the republicans will most likely win.

As for those posting about how they want someone with military experience, you have no clue. What you need is a leader, someone who can inspire you and everyone else to do and be more. Someone who won't embarrass us to the world like Bush and Chaney do almost every day. McCain is not what America needs right now.

Posted by: W | June 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

It has been said that there is nothing more dangerous than civic revolutions that do not carry out the postulates they themselves generate, and nothing more unfaithful than the public man who, when at the height of power, shows himself to be in disagreement with the doctrines that he sustained when he was in the political wilderness, and that had determined his ascent.

Barack Obama, authentic!

Hold the line on integrity and honor!

No Hillary!

Posted by: martin edwin andersen | June 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I wonder, why it is so easy for some people to tell lies? Mr. Obama, has told no superdelegates, that I have heard of, that he would give them a spot on the ticket-And believe me if he had, it would have been all over the News. (Obama promises to give super a spot on the ticket. ABC NEWS: Obama making promises to supers to steal election from Clinton. The NYTimes" Just how many delegates have Obama promised a spot on the ticket for their votes? There are too many forces out there trying to debase Mr. Obama to let a lulu like that get away, However, like the fore mentioned, I guess you too will say anything to debase him. I leave it to you!

Posted by: We The People | June 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama cannot beat McCain if Clinton supporters abandon him.

Posted by: Jane | June 3, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I've never been partial for either one of them. I just want a Democratic ticket that will not only kick McCain's butt but also give us filibuster proof control of the senate. To those people who say if their candidate is not the nominee then they are going to vote for McCain or Nader (Nader?), well that's just shooting yourself in the foot. If McCain gets in kiss Roe v Wade goodbye for good as well as any hope for some sort of national health care not to mention comsumer protections, fiscal responsibility or reasonably sane science or foreign policy. The Republicans have placed ideology and politics above the national interest since 1994. Please as Democrats let's not emulate their total lack of common sense, true patriotism or plain morality.

Posted by: Andrew | June 3, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

HEY I HAVE AN OPINION TOO! LOOK AT ME!

Posted by: ME TOO! | June 3, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

If the hold idea is to defeat the Republicans in November, then she can not be the VP. She does not bring a strong military presence, she would also bring out the Republicans in large numbers. Lastly with this move today she is trying to strongarm Obama into the VP position. This may be his first opportunity to show he is prepared to make the tuff decisions!

Posted by: Tee | June 3, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

November 2008 ELECTION BALLOT

For President of the United States:

John McCain Republican (___)

Barack Hussein Obama Democrat (___)

Hillary Rodham Clinton Independent (_X_)

Posted by: Active Duty | June 3, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Its a no-brainer.
1. Obama will beat McCain no matter who is VP, read: he does not need Clinton.
2. H Clinton is far too obsessed with the White House to ever accept living in the Number 2 mansion.
3. The Primary campaign has shown just how desperate she is, and to what depths she would stoop to satiate her obsession.
4. Obama I would think is smarter than to have her as VP, an Ambassadorship for Clinton to someplace like China would be a wiser option all around.

Posted by: nrand | June 3, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh Please - and Dubya's stellar service in the military -- ohh that's right HE DID NOT SERVE AND HE GOT US INTO A WAR.. At least Obama (and dare I say it Hillary) have common sense.. McCain, bless his heart, does not know if he is coming or going.. I bet he could not find Iraq on a map if he tried..

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Fight the good fight.. with all .. thy might, Christ is thy Strength, and Christ thy right; Lay hold on Life, and it shall be Thy Joy enter-anl-ly, Thy Joy
E-ter-nal-ly. Run the straight race... through God's good grace.

A HYMN FOR HILLARY

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT HILLARY WE ARE WITH YOU!

Posted by: Thank you Hillary for never giving up! | June 3, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

The reality is: Obama will not get elected in November unless he picks Hillary as his Vice President.

If you do not want to believe me, research it yourself. Using the numbers posted on CNN's website: George Bush beat John Kerry by three million votes in 2004. Bush won white voters (93.5 million total) 59% to 41%. Kerry won black voters (13.4 million total) 89% to 11%. Kerry won Latino voters (9.7 million total) 54% to 44%. Kerry won the remaining minority groups (5 million total) approximately 57% to 43%.

Here is how Obama is going to lose in November:

Let's assume that black turnout increases by 50% (approximately 15.4 million total votes), and Obama wins 100% of the black vote.

Let's also assume that McCain and Obama split the Latino vote with no increase in the turnout. Given the fact that McCain carried 77% of the Latino vote in Arizona in his last senate race, his winning 50% of the Latino vote in the general election against Obama is probably a conservative prediction.

Given these two assumptions, McCain will win in November by getting 3.1% more of the white vote than Bush did in 2004 (i.e., 58% to 61.1%). Obama is likely not going to win a higher percentage of white votes than did Kerry, so it is probably a conservative estimate that McCain can improve on Bush's total by 3.1% at a minimum.

If Obama has Hillary on the ticket, then she will probably minimize his loss of Latinos, and she will certainly reduce the number of white voters he loses. At the very least, Hillary would keep some of her supporters from voting for McCain rather than Obama in the general. Remember, even if only 10% of Hillary's primary voters move to McCain, that would cost Obama approximately 1.7 million votes. That alone would nearly offset the additional black votes that he picks up over what Kerry won in 2004.

Regardless of what Obama supporters might want to tell themselves, Obama needs Hillary. Similarly, no matter what Michelle Obama wants to believe, her husband cannot win without white voters. The best chance he has to secure the most white votes is to put Hillary on the ticket. Anyone else, and Obama is doomed.

Posted by: Dose of Reality | June 3, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

kristel, thank you for that intelligence.

Actually, I'm willing to let Obama or Hillary win. They will just screw up, and then the second coming of Reagan will come. Thank God.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm Speechless!

Posted by: Larry | June 3, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Being that Hillary supporters would never vote for Obama, there really is no need to have Hillary as a VP option, since it would bring in no support from her team, and would lose support from the Obama team.

Hillary has no value to the democrats at this point, due to her supporters.

Posted by: Franky | June 3, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

aoife is a wise man.

please, come to denver and protest at the dnc like codepink and america can't wait and all these other worthless groups.

typical liberals, hold signs to change things.

Posted by: ryan | June 3, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder that Clinton supporters are labeled as ignorant when they spout off things like, "I'm writing in Clinton's name on the ballot no matter what!" or "McCain in 08 - Clinton in 2012?"

Grow up. This country needs a leader with vision and Obama is the one who has it. Either you can lick your wounds and join us in the fight, or you can sit there and scratch your ass on election day....

Posted by: Kristel | June 3, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Illinois appears to be where Plains Indians, Whites and Blacks try to converge with a certain disparity reminiscent of the concept of irreconcilable differences that many divorced couples have suffered leaving each Individual with an inability to come to complete terms with any one of the three. Consequently they begin thinking that if all of the ideologies could be separated or terminated then the problem would go away. Obama's idea is to instead unite the sulfur and the carbon and the saltpeter to get change. Lincoln had the same idea and we still have scars from the Civil War.

Posted by: George Hitchcock | June 3, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

@Karen
"Let me get this straight.. Hillary supporters would rather see McCain in office before the Democratic Party's elected candidate? Once again, we send a message to the world that America is a nation of idiots."

you bet yur arse Im voting for McCain, the DNC must learn a hard lesson. That lesson is that you can't win a general election with African Americans and Latte Drinkers.....full stop. As Donna Brazile said, the "new" democratic party is nore Urban and young" well gook luck in November, and when you loose, the DNC, Dean Kerry, Brazile, Kennedy will have only themselves to blame. And then there are you people, all over the internet, obama minions attacking anyone who suppoprts hillary, I've had months of reading your vile posts, no way I'd ever be associated with people like you. No way, mccain can win then hillary can run in 2012, I can wait!

Posted by: aoife | June 3, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Sven is right. If Clinton is the VP, my vote goes to Barr.

Obama / Clinton would be a "Dream Ticket", but it would be a nightmare. Her actions and general attitude are in direct opposition to Obama's platform.

Posted by: Jeremiah | June 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I am sitting her praying Obama will NOT choose Hillary.

He is going down to defeat and he will take Hillary down with him.

And THEN probably try to BLAME her for the defeat.

Hillary can't really refuse if asked so please, please Obama, don't ask.

2012 Go Hillary!!!!

Posted by: Truth Seeker | June 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

He should choose Richardson. He has the best foreign policy experience (Hillary, contrary to her claims, really doesn't have much.) He is latin, so that will help with the latin vote, and his record in New Mexico helping the poor and middle class should bolster the blue collar voters. Hillary is too strong minded to be a vice, and she has really disgusted me over this primary season. Divisive and, well, out of touch with reality.

Posted by: Todd S | June 3, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

This quote is from another blog:

"Clinton also told colleagues the delegate math was not there for her to overtake Obama, but that she wanted to take time to determine how to leave the race in a way that would best help Democrats."

My reaction was she's trying to screw Obama to the last possible moment. How slimy can you get?!

Posted by: Sven | June 3, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

As Andrea Mitchell said on the news a few minutes ago, how could Senator Obama wish to have Bill Clinton *anywhere near* this ticket? Like it or not, he would be, if HRC were named as Vice Presidential candidate. It would be such a bad idea, and for several reasons. It would make much more sense to offer her a position in the administration or better yet, an ambassadorship.

Posted by: Elizabeth in Ohio | June 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

thankfully McCain is just going to win anyway. As an active-duty US serviceman, I want someone with prior experience in combat making decisions in my best interests, not some guy or woman who don't even like the service. Barack's picture in that USMC shirt is priceless. Only Marines and Marine family members have earned the right to wear that shirt. Anyone can wear a shirt or put a sticker on their car; few can actually make the sacrifice and do what it takes.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Face it, Obama will NOT win the presidency without Hillary Clinton. A joint ticket will be the ideal one for both of them. I, for one, will choose McCain should Hillary not be on the ticket.

Posted by: famster | June 3, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Independent Independent Independent

We will not give up

Run as a Independent Hillary

Please I will vote for you

Posted by: Radar | June 3, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Some said that Hillary ran a dishonest campaign. Well from my point of view in Texas it was the Obama people who ran the dishonest campaign. In the caucus's they crossed off names of Hillary supporters, they somehow copied the caucus lists and I started getting snail mail from them even though I was clearly registered as a Hillary supporter. The caucus's were a joke here; where a minority of younger enthusiastic Obama supporters acted like this was a Jr. High election for class President and they did anything that they could to prevent Hillary votes from being counted. Including telling Hillary voters to simply sign in then go home and after they left they said only the people present would count toward the delegate/caucus totals.

While Obama may not have direct knowledge of this shenanigans; his younger core of supporters were not interested in fairness like the more mature Hillary supporters were.

I think Obama will get beat in the election, as I truly believe his base is not a large as everyone thinks it is; and as time goes on he is proving to be very naive about things. He would be a better choice 8 years from now after he gains some real experience.

I'm afraid that we've lost the only chance in the next 25 years to elect a candidate from the silent unrepresented majority of women in this country. Look how she has been treated because she is a woman; and look how strong she's been throughout, can you see another woman any stronger on the horizon? I don't.

We've lost the chance to put a woman in the Whitehouse. Cryin shame for my daughters and my unborn grand daughters.

Posted by: Craig | June 3, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Clinton = Bush

Obama = Fresh Start

Posted by: Mr. Ali BABA | June 3, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

It is highly unlikely that an Obama/Clinton ticket will actually happen. I think Clinton is to strong willed and to knowledgably to play second fiddle yet again to any man in the Oval Office. If and it's a big if Obamas campaign is seriously considering it is will be only to pick up a portion of Clintons suporters, a large majority of Clinton supporters will still not vote Obama. Because if they did it would be giving the candidate they dislike the job is is underqualified for. The one thing that blows my mind is Obama is the one that said 3 short years ago there would be no way he would habe the experiance he believes is needed for the most important job in the country. He said that, those words came out of his own mouth when he won he bid for the Senate....now 3short years later he thinks he has what it takes to stand up to the world on our behalf?.....not a chance. Sadly you need a shark of sorts for President...you may not like it but it's the truth.

Posted by: LynnC in Colorado | June 3, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight.. Hillary supporters would rather see McCain in office before the Democratic Party's elected candidate? Once again, we send a message to the world that America is a nation of idiots.

Is it me or has Hillary Clinton become the Ralph Nader of 2008? Hillary is a smart and well-qualified woman, but this theme of "entitlement" prevented me from supporting her. I know its hard to believe for most Hillary supporters, but there are a lot of Obama voters that chose him merely because they are sick of the Clintons. There are also alot of Republicans who will be re-energized by the opportunity to vote against a Clinton. They will come out in droves if she is on the ticket.

I don't dislike Hillary. I think Barack can give her a cabinet or Supreme Court nomination he is elected. And for now, can we just focus on WINNING??

Posted by: Karen | June 3, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

There are soooooooo many others that are far more qualified than Hillary to be VP. I doubt that democrats would vote for Mccain if Hillary is not VP. A continuation of the Bush policies would be disatrous for our country, and a lot of people know that. Mccain constantly needs to be corrected for his foreign policy mistakes, and he just doesn't seem very bright.

Posted by: stan | June 3, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't she wait to be asked? I don't see it having the right chemistry. I'd like to see her as a supreme court justice.

Posted by: Sara B. | June 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

DO NOT put THAT woman anywhere the white house. She was defeated for a reason. Let's keep it that way. There are many other better choices.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hildabeast.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/resume.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

Posted by: AZMac | June 3, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

We need to say GOODBYE to the Clinton's. If Obama picks Hill, he will have Bill tagging along like a red-headed step child. Also, there is no such thing as a "co-presidency". Bill proved that with Gore for 8 years. Bill & Hill got all the recognition and Gore went to the funerals and ribbon cuttings. Yes, the Clinton's will be a HUGE annoyance to Obama.

What really distrubs me is how so many people are rallying around a man which no experience and very little substance. Throwing a vote in his direction is like throwing our country to the "wolves".

Posted by: Moss | June 3, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"No," to Hillary on the ticket. Her negatives outweigh her positives. "Yes," to John Edwards. Obama and Edwards have a similar message. Both of them represent change, and Edwards can really help Obama among a few of the demographics were Barack Obama has not done as well in the past. Many of the crossover voters who have and will support Obama, would not if Hillary is on the ticket.

Posted by: Character Counts | June 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Clinton was a poor VP the first time around.

If she goes in again, Bubba will be her surrogate.

Come on, let's get real.

Posted by: RJD | June 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama has already hinted to too many Supers that he would give them the VP job. If he offers it to Clinton now, he will lose them and start a landslide of support over to her. On the other hand, if he doesn't make the offer, Hillary will fight it out at the convention, by which time the jig will be up and he will lose their support anyway.

Posted by: Dennis | June 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

what nobody realizes is that their platforms are VERY similar. I think most people hate Hillary because the way she has acted in this campaign is seen as "aggressive" because she's a woman. If a man did the same exact things nobody would bat an eye. Of course i will support the democratic ticket, but the "Bandwagon" feel to the Obama supporters really irks me...you all just jump on to the idea of "hope" without reading/learning about any real strategy. She forced him to bring substance and thank goodness for her that he did...

Posted by: get over yourselves | June 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

under no circumstances HRC for VP!!
too many crazies and cranks could use the opportunity for another clinton or a first female in the WH.

Posted by: canyon1 | June 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

OK to all of you smug elitists here who keep calling Hillary's supporters (whom you repeatedly identify as Latinos, women and blue collar workers) "stupid" and to whom you think she needs to speak "slowly and using small words", I have one thing to tell you. This white male Democrat with a Juris Doctorate who speaks three languages and does not live in West Virginia will be writing Hillary Clinton in on the ballot for President, even if she winds up on the Obama ticket. So, when you wake up in November and see John McCain win because you elitists offended half the population, white men and Latinos, remember you did this to our party and enjoy your continued lack of civil liberties. After all, I'll be okay because I'm that white guy the republicans care most about :-)

Posted by: Mark | June 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton as Vice President would be worse than Dick Cheney. And louder.

I vote NO to HRC for VP.

No. No. No. NO!!

Posted by: Susan | June 3, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? This independent voter, who likes what Obama has to offer, would bail so fast to the right if Hillary came on board.

Posted by: Sven | June 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

What matters now and is implicit in all that Clinton means and has stated for the last few weeks is that the general election, until now, has been all but won by democrats. November is ours to lose. Keep your eyes on the prize. As for myself I am hoping that the ticket however it is constructed will be able to keep the working stiffs of this country interested enough and hopeful enough to get out and vote the ticket. Elitism is a turnoff to working people and points the way to an Easter like resurrection of the all but dead neocons running this country into the ground. Steady now.

Posted by: dfwilton | June 3, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I love it. I love Hillary. Unlike Obama, she's actually not just full of "change" speak, but she's actually executed it. (Need confirmation, try to name the number of actual leadership he has in the Senate. Right. Hard, huh? Name hers. Not so hard. And she's only been in one term longer.) Hillary would be an asset, and her presence would unite a divided party.

Posted by: Law Girl | June 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Fight the good fight.. with all .. thy might, Christ is thy Strength, and Christ thy right; Lay hold on Life, and it shall be Thy Joy enter-anl-ly, Thy Joy
E-ter-nal-ly. Run the straight race... through God's good grace.

A HYMN FOR HILLARY

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT HILLARY WE ARE WITH YOU!

Posted by: Thank you Hillary for never giving up! | June 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

the only thing GREAT about this day is that obamabots are in full panic mode that Hillary may be on the ticket!!As a hillary supporter who has been attacked by you people for months now, I still wont vote for your messiah, but will sure enjoy watching you have a meltdown if she's the VP

McCain 08
Hillary 2012

Posted by: aoife | June 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Not a good idea! I think Hillary will do Obama like she did Bill when her first became President. Perhaps you all forgot how Hillary had to be put in check the firs couple of years.

What cinched if for me was what Obama said about the war in Iraq. He said, " not only do we have to get out of the war in Iraq, we have to change the mentality that got un into the war in the firs place."

Posted by: Kevin | June 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

This cracks me up. Between two democrats, there were 17 million people who voted for Hillary. But I don't believe that all of those democrats will vote republican in November. Many of the millions who supported Hillary, will support the democratic party and vote for the democrat who won the nomination--Obama.

I for one, am not interested in the least in seeing Hillary as VP. Her stiff demeanor, and her penchant for playing old school politics is old and boring. I hope that Obama picks a dynamic, smart, open-minded VP who can support all of the governmental staff in leading with style and assurance.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I am an Obama supporter, but if he chooses Hillary the obliterator as VP, I might have to sit this one out. She wont stand being vice anything. she will try to run the show. Hope he makes the right decision on this one.

Posted by: sam | June 3, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama, IF you are the nominee, how will you go about making your decision for VP? Think long and hard. I trust you will make a well informed decision.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 3, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Since Obama and Clinton have very similar stances on most issues, and both differ in many ways from McCain, why would anyone who would support Obama or Clinton vote instead for McCain (or perhaps not vote at all thus helping McCain) just because their favorite wasn't on the ticket? Are Clinton supporters really that irrational? Are their political principles completely nonexistent? Clintonites and others long criticized Obama supporters as some sort of cult of personality, but Clintonites who would vote for McCain over Obama demonstrate only that their politics are based upon their own identification with her personality rather than with any principle or reason. I'm not particularly fond of Hillary Clinton (though I don't understand the Hillary-hatred that seems to consume so many), but if Obama does eventually become the Democratic nominee, I would think she would put principle before personality and support him, which is one implication behind her statement that she'll do anything to defeat McCain in November. This statement, if true, seems to put her above many of her own supporters in rationality and political wisdom.

Posted by: Henry | June 3, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

well, some people care who wins this time... or at least some 35 million odd people...

And as a supporter of Barack Obama and not a big fan of Hillary Clinton, I say this; Barack Hussein Obama has no choice but to select Hillary Rodham Clinton as his VP, simply because the people wish it so, if not for any other reason.

If he believes in democracy, he has no other route.

Posted by: whocares | June 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Having Hillary join the ticket WILL bring with it much of her constituency and it would be ridiculous for Obama supporters to withdraw their support because they dislike Hillary. Hillary is a formidable force and could be a strong ally during a tough road ahead. However, while this will enhance winning the president's seat for Obama, the big question is, will she fall in line with his policies and wholeheartedly support him during his first term or sabotage his policies and second guess his every move setting her self up as the nominee, as unlikely as that would, be in 2012.

Posted by: Steve C. | June 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The process has played out long enough, and though I'm disappointed in the outcome, I'm willing to get behind Obama. My concern lies with her not being on the ticket and Clinton supporters jumping over to McCain to punish the DNC. Clearly the bigger picture here is our country, not the DNC. Whoever the idiot woman is who conjured up the notion that this was a good idea ought to rethink this because it would punish the country if a Republican continues to hold the office of President.

I think Hillary being on the ticket is smart. Not only does it help Obama with swing states that recent polls show would go to McCain, but if the democrats pull of 4 years of successly running our country, the the next 12 will be locked up and Clinton will move to the top of the ticket when Obama's term is up.

This country wants both of them..look at the numbers. Having them both on the ticket makes everyone happy and it's the ideal situation. Two great minds working together to get our country back on track.

Isn't that what we want? I can't think of anyone better to be his running mate.

Posted by: RG | June 3, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Iti s not as if Obama won a landslide nomination. He won a little over 18 million to 18 million votes for Hillary. If Obama is prudent he will have her on his ticket. If not a large part of Hillary's supporters particularly the blue collared men, Hispanics, Asians etc will easily vote for McCain. If McCain is smart he should try to rope this group if Hillary is not on Obama's ticket. The advantage of Black people voting 90% for Obama worked in the primary because they made up 50% of many state democratic parties. In a general election without Hispanics, Whites and other groups, Obama can't win. Having Hillary on his ticket things would be different.

Posted by: Ben | June 3, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

It is highly unlikely that an Obama/Clinton ticket will actually happen. I think Clinton is to strong willed and to knowledgably to play second fiddle yet again to any man in the Oval Office. If and it's a big if Obamas campaign is seriously considering it is will be only to pick up a portion of Clintons suporters, a large majority of Clinton supporters will still not vote Obama. Because if they did it would be giving the candidate they dislike the job is is underqualified for.

Posted by: LynnC from Colorado | June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Everyone: page down and read the comments from Diana. Right on!!!!! She does NOT rate a consolation prize, and there aren't enough guards available to protect him if she slithers in as v.p. How is it right that he's being forced to take on that liability? Send her PACKING!! She LOST. We do NOT want her!!!!! Protect yourself, Obama.

Posted by: Mary | June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama & Hillary is the ticket many Dems have been dreaming out. At first we thought it would be Hillary/Obama. They are a great pair. He needs her fighter persona and her technical knowledge. She needs his charimsa and promise of change. And we need Bill, Gore, and Edwards in the cabinet. I'm pumped. Let's get this fight on the road.

Posted by: Tony 77019 | June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Please get real everyone. Mccain will lose against Obama no matter who the VP is. Mccain is a bumbling idiot who is too old, and dumb to be president. The American people are smarter than to vote for him.

Posted by: jon | June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I will say for myself the one and ONLY way I will cast my vote for Obama is if Hillary is on that ticket too. Amy other way and I am voting for Nader, gladly.

Posted by: Hillary All the Way | June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

"No," to Hillary on the ticket. Her negatives outweigh her positives. "Yes," to John Edwards. Obama and Edwards have a similar message. Both of them represent change, and Edwards can really help Obama among a few of the demographics were Barack Obama has not done as well in the past. Many of the crossover voters who have and will support Obama, would not if Hillary is on the ticket.

Posted by: Character Counts | June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary is not on the ticket, Obama will find a lot of Hillary democrats staying home in november or crossing over. She has more than earned the offer. If he doesn't make the offer, the disunity among the democrats will only continue. You don't want that in this election, especially when an African American is the candidate who has actually lost more primaries in the last stretch. He has lost much of his attractiveness, but can possibly pull through with her support. He shouldn't take anything for granted, and I hope he will do the right thing.

Posted by: Nathan | June 3, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Every single Hillary supporter I talk to says they will vote for McCain and there is no way they will vote for Obama. Go ahead, keep smearing Hillary Obama people, keep digging your grave. We will not back down, we will not go away, deal with it, all 17 MILLION of us and then some..

Posted by: Hillary All the Way | June 3, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can't just 'join the ticket' - she needs to be offered the position by the person who WON THE NOMINATION.

Hillary and her husband embody the polar opposite of the concepts of change and hope.

Barack Obama MUST be allowed to select his running mate on his own terms. He earned the right to do so because he WON THE NOMINATION.

As an example of my position, just look at this article: Hillary is unable to even exit gracefully and allow Obama the spotlight on his night of nights. She is trying to steal the spotlight even at this juncture. Classless.

Posted by: Susan | June 3, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

hey franky

you can't win without Hillary supporters, do the math

it's practically a tie

wake up and smell the coffee, besides, I am a Hillary supporter who plans to vote against McCain

you do not speak for Hillary supporters, congrats on your candidate winning

Posted by: lucci8 | June 3, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

You know, most of Hillary's supporters said they wouldn't vote for Obama, and vice-versa. So now Hillary's crowd WOULD vote for Obama if Hillary were the running mate? That's crazy! They couldn't stand Obama and now they're saying they'd vote for him if Hillary were VP? We're noting voting for VP here folks, we're choosing a president.

Posted by: Confused111 | June 3, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I can see it now , Barack Obama with a Knife stuck in his back and Hillary claiming it was the result of "inexperience" why not just vote for felix unger and oscar madison to run the country.

Posted by: Ben | June 3, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

if Obama takes Hillary as vice president I will not vote for Obama, and I will not vote for Mcain . The only reason she wants to be the VP is because she is still hoping for Obama to be assassinated because this monster will think of anything to become the president, Obama will loose big if he is forced to accept her as a VP

Posted by: joe | June 3, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama won't select Clinton for several reasons:

Michelle Obama -- she hates Hillary, and hates Bill even more.

Hillary -- Obama doesn't like her, and who can imagine her being anything less than a "co-president?" Who is going to select someone who will upstage him constantly -- even if she doesn't want to -- because she's much more competent on the issues.

Bill -- As if Obama needs controversy! Bill Clinton has proven himself to be a timebomb waiting to go off. Why would Obama risk his historic quest on a washed-up loser like Bill Clinton? Especially a washed-up loser who also enjoys rock-star celebrity and is a magnet for the news media!

Hillary again -- this time from her perspective. Whatever one may think of her, she's been a very effective Senator. She gets along well with Senators from both parties, and is a potential leader in the Senate if she decides to stay there. It's hard to imagine her trading that power and influence for a position rightly described as not being worth "...a pitcher of warm spit."

She's also much better positioned for a future run for President as a Senator. If Obama loses the election, she's the "nominee-in-waiting." If he wins, and bombs, same status.

It ain't happening. If Obama is smart, he will select either Joe Biden or Bill Richardson.

Posted by: observer | June 3, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

having clinton as his vp would be one of the worst mistakes Obama could ever make. the clintons have to much psychodrama going on in their lives and Obama would spend most of his administration answering questiions about the weekly episodes of the "as the clintons turn" there is no way he can preach a message of change and have her on his ticket bad bad bad bad bad idea
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea

Posted by: troy | June 3, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

You sicko Obama supporters are showing just how self centered and ignorant you are. You have NO chance in November without Hillary and her supporters, so you better get a clue or we will all be voting for McCain.

Posted by: Hillary All the Way | June 3, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I really hope Obama makes the right choice and chooses Clinton as his running mate. I also hope he appoints Edwards and Gore to cabinet positions. I say this as someone who would have voted for Edwards had he still been in the race on Super Tuesday. I ended up voting for Clinton as she has the much better healthcare plan. Regardless, I do like Obama and will vote for him no matter what. But, him choosing Clinton as VP would make me feel more like I am voting FOR someone as opposed to just voting AGAINST McCain. I know a lot of Clinton supporters who are pretty upset about this election. That's a LOT of people who voted for Clinton. The dream ticket would heal the wounds from the campaign and unite the party. If Obama is truely the uniter that he claims to be, he ought to unite the party by reaching out to the Clinton supporters.

Posted by: KR | June 3, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I am a 64 yr old conservative Republican who has never voted for a Democrat. I crossed over to support & campaign for Obama. I would cut my hands off at the wrist before I would ever pull a lever or push a button for a ticket with the name Clinton on it.

Posted by: stbdtac | June 3, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

As a woman and a Clinton supporter from way back, it pains me to say that the Republicans were right; the Clintons will do anything to hang onto power. Hillary and Bill have run a dishonest, politically coercive, and racist campaign. Not that politics has anything to do with fairness, but Hillary does not deserve to be on the ticket--she doesn't deserve to continue in public service. She compromised her professed values, she compromised the Democratic party's values, and she compromised the best of America's values in her bid for the presidency, all the while holding her womanhood up as a shield of protection from valid criticisms of her unethical tactics. For those that would support her now, let them go.

Posted by: CharacterCounts | June 3, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

it really doesn't matter what we think

it's up to them

i myself can't see it, and as much of a Clintista as I am, if I have to, I will vote against mcCain no matter who the VP is and I suggest you all do the same

this isn't american idol, it's our country

Posted by: lucci8 | June 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

HRC is one of the few Democrats whom I would not mind being a heartbeat away from the presidency.

But I would prefer to see Sen. Claire McCaskill (MO) or Gov. Kathleen Sibelius (KAN) as BHO's running mate.

Posted by: SatoEsq | June 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

For any woman to suggest that she will vote for McCain as a protest of Hillary's failed dream confounds the scientific underpinnings of life on Earth. It is anti-Darwinian, an affront to the notion of self-preservation, and at odds with the realities of maternal instinct and the innate urge to propagate the species and preserve life on the planet. Our children cannot be pawns to wounded sentiments, no matter how grand a vision or close a race. Our babies were not born to be cannon fodder in Iraq. Iran or anywhere else that John McCain might elect to send them in some willful, reckless and unwarranted war. Women did not evolve socially and politically to our current degree just so as to be able to spit in the eye of evolution proper, natural selection and the scientific rationale behind continued life on the planet. May God save us from any so petty and foolish as to sacrifice OUR babies to spite! What kind of animal, human or otherwise is capable of that?

Posted by: Ma Kettle | June 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

It's going to make for wonderful republican campaign ads. The democrat's VP nominee stating time after time that the party's Presidential nominee can't win. I never once heard Obama say that about Hillary.

For him to ask her to run would be gracious but foolish.

Posted by: tmac | June 3, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I can't seem to comprehend the fact that a man I supported for so many months can even consider making his opponent a mate in his political marriage. Just about everything she stands for turns my stomach. This is a slap in the face. By all means do I believe she would have done this for him.

Posted by: H.W. | June 3, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

It seems it's a lot of sacrifice for Hillary to be willing to consider the V.P. spot.

That is the problem. If it's not her way, there is no way.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

NO
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Posted by: Bud | June 3, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Franky. Having Hillary as VP does not help Obama really. It is not as if she would provide him additional voters.

Obama would be better off with an experienced military figure in order to combat McCain's criticism of being naive and an appeaser.

Posted by: Brad | June 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

cjmichael you're a dumbass.

Posted by: cjmichael | June 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

If the whole idea is "change," then Clinton doesn't make sense. She ran on "experience" and thus, as a quasi-incumbent. It was her own strategy that makes her an unlikeable VP candidate.

But please, Clinton supporters, do not talk about voting for McCain. If you really respect her, know that voting for McCain is against everything that she believes in and everything she has worked her entire professional life for, while Obama has fundamentally the same goals and platform.

If she is not VP, I think that she would be a great cabinet person - or possibly Secretary of State. Would Hillary supporters really deny her that?

Posted by: anna | June 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I want a President with strength, courage, integrity and honesty. That simply means Obama does not get my vote.

Posted by: Jeremy D. | June 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm a democrat and I have never liked Hillary. She used every dirty trick in the book in this campaign, and now she wants yet another freebie. Her presence on the ticket would be the kiss of death.

Posted by: Jo Martinson | June 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

It really dosen't matter what she does, because she is going to get the blame for every little ObamaDrama that pops up. And if the Clinton supporters are true to their word then Obama has lost their votes.

Posted by: ZarDotz | June 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

anyone who thinks there is a better ticket is not being realistic. anyone who thinks she would hurt more than help needs to put aside the bs and let us concentrate on winning the white house.

Posted by: yodomar | June 3, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can take her latinos and uneducated voters to West Virginia.
She is a liability to the Pary at this point.
Her remarks and egocentric attitude really insulted ALL Democrats!

Posted by: cjmichael | June 3, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should run as an independent.

Posted by: Fred | June 3, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons surely would have him assassinated. Bill hangs out with all those mobsters out of the old Soviet Union.They are bad news. They will kill anybody.

Posted by: majorteddy | June 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

obama has to tread very carefuly to avoid complete disaster. if he doesn't ask hillary he will still get some of her voters but not enough, however if he does ask and she refuses he will have no chance at all because her supporters will read way more into that than they should. the ball is really in clintons court she has to decide wether or not she wants the job and be the one to explain it (slowly in small words) to her supporters. at any rate mccain should have it easier than anyone expected because the fight between obama and clinton has completely devided the dems.

Posted by: chrisgeo | June 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jeremiah | June 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I am mixed. I would rather have Jim Webb, a southerner and the Secretary of the Navy under REAGAN. How could you beat that?

But after all this it may be that this is a dream ticket. No decision should be made for a month until all cool down.

Posted by: Steve | June 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

If HRC is on the ticket, Obama won't be able to get any life insurance.

HRC keeps going to far, she blew it.

Posted by: CC | June 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I hope so... it would clinch the democrats in November. The last thing we need is another old-time war hero in office.

Posted by: r | June 3, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

From the Amen Corner on a quote today "I really think if they want to win this they have to run together."

Please run together, I don't want to vote Republican but I will if they have a stronger ticket.

White woman, age 64 who has never voted Republican, but need to see a strong Democatic ticket in the midst of these
"worst times I have seen"

Posted by: Myra from Atlanta | June 3, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Those in NY are encouraging her because they want her out of NY. They'd hate to appear to be 'sexist' by running her out. The country, and NY, need to be shed of the Clintons.

Posted by: Sharon - NC | June 3, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Look, all this talk about Hillary supporters not supporting Obama is complete bull. I ardently support Senator Clinton and I will do my best to see to it that if/when Senator Obama becomes the Democratic nominee he wins the election, and that would be helped in my opinion if Clinton were on the ticket. Once the dust settles and emotions die down, Clinton's supporters will back Obama, especially if she is on the ticket.

Posted by: steve | June 3, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Barack will probably lose if he chooses Senator Clinton as the vice-presidential nominee. Given the ghoulish comments she made about RFK, how could Michelle Obama or many of Barack's supporters accept such a person being vice-president?

I will vote for Barack if he chooses virtually anyone else for the vice-presidential nominee. However, I will not vote for him, if he chooses Senator Clinton. I know many people who also want to vote for Barack for president, but are unsure if they will, if Senator Clinton is his running mate.

Posted by: Independent | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter. Obama is going to lose in November, whether Hillary stands---seething--at his side or not.

Posted by: Judy Lewis | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

How can she ever think of that option, after running such a negitive campaign.

Posted by: Independent | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama would be LUCKY if Hillary agrees to be on the ticket. She brings experience, intelligence and a lot of women supporters. Otherwise, he may not win.

Posted by: Monique from NC | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

OMG! Barack and Hillary. No thanks...If that is the case...I'll have to choose a third term for Bush and vote McBush!
Remember Mondale and Ferraro?

Posted by: cjmichael | June 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

To consider Hillary as the Vice President of Barack Obama's Presidency, leaves me with the numbest, sickest feeling of nausea.

Why are we treating her as if she gets some sort of consolation prize? Or as if she has to be spoken gently to (as if she is an unstable person).

Whatever happened to the standards of "you ran for President Hillary, but you didn't win"

GET OVER IT

Posted by: Diana | June 3, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

This Hillary supporter still would not vote for Obama! It wouldn't change the fact that Obama is ineffectual.

Posted by: Woodie | June 3, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

For Barack Obama, having BILLARY Clinton as Vice President will be like having a LIVE DEADLY SNAKE under one's bed covers!

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | June 3, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

To Hell with the Bushes and Clintons. If we want to change course, this is the best chance we have ever had.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I can't think of a faster way for Obama to scuttle his chances of winning the election in November. A very very large segment of the voting public can't stand Hillary.

Posted by: John | June 3, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama-Clinton does have a nice ring to it. But let's let the dust settle.

This day, as exciting as it is, comes as a blow to many, many Democrats. But come November we will be united.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM5XATfW2wQ

Posted by: s.p. | June 3, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Being that Hillary supporters would never vote for Obama, there really is no need to have Hillary as a VP option, since it would bring in no support from her team, and would lose support from the Obama team.

Hillary has no value to the democrats at this point, due to her supporters.

Posted by: Franky | June 3, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

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