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Obama Camp Dismisses VP Speculation


David Axelrod, (R) chief strategist for U.S. Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Obama's Director of Communications Robert Gibbs (L) speak to the media aboard a plane from Chicago to Obama's final primary night rally in St. Paul June 3, 2008. (Reuters)

By Shailagh Murray
ST. PAUL, Minn. -- David Axelrod, Sen. Barack Obama's chief political strategist, brushed off speculation that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton may be a leading vice presidential contender.

"We don't have a short list or a long list. We're coming here tonight to finish the process," Axelrod told reporters on board Obama's campaign plane, en route to his victory rally. "It's way too early to talk about that."

He shot down rumors that the two Democrats were planning a joint appearance in the coming days. "We have not had any back-channel discussions to choreograph the rest of the week,"

Axelrod said, "We respect Sen. Clinton and she's going to approach this in a way that she feels comfortable with, and we honor that."

He also acknowledged the deep disappointment of many Clinton supporters. "It's natural after 54 primaries in a year and a half that that there's going to be some hard feelings, and I wouldn't begrudge anyone those feelings," he said.

But Axelrod added, "I think there are bigger things at stake here and I expected everyone understands that."

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Obama is going to select his wife as VP. She is the only person he will ever trust.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I can't understand why anyone would want Hillary on the Supreme Court! The Constitution is a basically set of rules, and anyone who is appointed should have a record of playing by the rules, fairly, not changing them. I think she could be of much more help in working on health and education issues.

Posted by: connect the dots | June 5, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

To the post at 10.04 pm: the questions about Caroline Kennedy's qualifications was posted by "citizen," and they were not originally posted by me, as your post suggests. I quoted her for context. As you see from my response to "citizen," I agree with you.

Thanks for the details on CK's experience.

Posted by: CAC | June 4, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

What is this I read about Caroline Kennedy being on of the folks Obama has chosen to help pick his VP? She is a stay at home mother and writer?
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Posted by: CAC | June 4, 2008 5:27 PM

I live in NYC and Caroline Kennedy is much more than a writer and 'stay at home mom'. She is very active in the New York City Public school system both in private fundraising and a variety of reform efforts in the school system.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse


To "citizen": We need to look beyond face-value in this decision. Having Caroline Kennedy on the VP committee is actually a *very* savvy move. She's more accomplished and knowledgable than you give her credit for (Obama's not tapping his local PTA for his braintrust); and she brings the legacy, reputation, and connections of her family, which is both symbolic and influential with the public and politicos. With the credentials of the others on the committee, the VP candidate selected will have greater legitimacy and criticism will be easier to deflect, especially if the VP candidate is not Clinton. If he keeps making "goofs" like this, he'll be quite effective in the Oval Office.

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What is this I read about Caroline Kennedy being on of the folks Obama has chosen to help pick his VP? She is a stay at home mother and writer? This is the kind of goof that he will be making!! What can she bring to the important task of choosing who can take over the tough job in his absence...!!!
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Posted by: CAC | June 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people! If Obama were to lose to McCain (don't think he will)you will all be wishing Sen. Clinton had fought harder for the nomination. Remember how we wished Gore would have fought harder in 2000. Just relax and let it play out a little longer. None of this will be remembered come November. Go Wings!!

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

What is this I read about Caroline Kennedy being on of the folks Obama has chosen to help pick his VP? She is a stay at home mother and writer? This is the kind of goof that he will be making!! What can she bring to the important task of choosing who can take over the tough job in his absence...!!!

Posted by: citizen | June 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

CAN MOST OF YOU NOT SEE HOW YOU ARE BEING EMOTIONALLY MANIPULATED AND USED AS PAWN'S.....WHETHER OR NOT YOU PREFER OBAMA OR HILLARY, THE DEMOCRATIC VALUE'S ARE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSSING ON. DON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN JUST BECAUSE OBAMA TURNED OUT TO BE THE PRIMARY....THE BICKERING SHOULD STOP. DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE COUNTRY OR NOT? ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT OR NOT? IF YOU ARE THEN YOU SHOULD BE VOTING DEMOCRATIC EVEN IF THE LEADER WAS RONALD MCDONALD!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

There are Lies, Damned Lies and then there claims about who won the popular vote. Go to Real Clear Politics (http://tinyurl.com/2hbf4a) and see that it's pretty much of a push for either candidate.

Obama will be the Democratic Party's nominee (sorry Clintonistas), he shouldn't be lumbered with a Veep that he doesn't want.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | June 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't need Hillary as his VP. She would steal his thunder and be nothing but a distraction and endless drama within Obama's tightly run ship. Hillary supporters will come round soon enough when they understand the stakes in November ... primarily, control of the Supreme Court. I can't see rabid feminists handing that to the Republicans and risk a reversal of Roe vs. Wade. Then there's having to live with the blood of more American soldiers and Iraq citizens on their hands ... for what? To score some cheap political point? I don't think so. Of course, if they wanted to legitimize George Bush's Presidency, voting for McCain would be the way to do it ... it would leave Bush with something of a legacy. But to legitimize and set in stone George Bush's reduction in personal liberties, condone his illegal and immoral war, turn a blind eye on the economy and ignore people without health care? It's hard to imagine any true Democrat could do that. No, Hillary is not necessary. Even if half of Hillary's supporters voted for McCain or stayed home or ruined their vote, there are still enough independents and Republicans who would make up the difference.

Posted by: AC | June 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget that Hillary has won more votes in this primary election than any other candidate in American history. (You may recall in the not-so-distant past the fury of the american electorate when Bush managed to win the election after losing the popular vote in this country, propelling him into the presidency). Yes, Obama won the caucus states handily. But that's not where the big vote counts matter. The big states went to Hillary in a big way. Obama doesn't have the blue collar vote, the latino vote, the rural vote, the Jewish vote, or the senior vote. He needs to pull in these numbers, plus all the women who came out for Hillary. If this country changed the voting rules to winner take all across the states, Hillary would be the nominee of the party today. That said, it's time to bury the hatchet now that Obama is the contender. But I believe he needs Hillary to win the presidential election against McCain. Period. His nomination is truely historic but a new administration, with an african-american AND a woman at the helm is the real change this country needs and desires. Putting her on the ticket is not a step backwards as many Obama supporters insist. She has the experience that he lacks and that the Republicans will exploit in the coming weeks and months. She has brass balls too.
Her speech last night (I will be making no decisions...) and her speech today (in front of AIPAC) makes this abundantly clear. Hillary and Barack complement each other in many ways, not the least of which is the ability to pull the Democratic party together into a unified front. Don't underestimate the strength of this potential ticket. Today's slogan is: It's the math, stupid.

Posted by: Jessica | June 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I put down my savings to support Obama,
to see him become President.
Am I the only one feeling I didn't do so,
to have Hillary become Obamas VP.
The lady is a stranger to such thing as honesty and integrity.
Quality of human beings between them is heaven and hell difference.
I sure hope they will find somebody
who is a true human, compassionate one.
Obama is a champion of man.

Posted by: hideko san | June 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary actually STILL can become the next President of the U.S. All she has to do is switch to the Independent Party (citing several examples of Democratic Party corruption), and change her stand on abortion.

The woman has the best ideas I've read anywhere, which are all lined out on her website - from ending the Iraq war - to economic recovery - to healthcare reform.

She can still win it and she SHOULD still win it. She isn't publicly speaking out defeat, because there is power in one's words - power that she wisely refuses to unleash. Smart woman. Wise woman. Forgiving woman.

So what if she built her ideas up while tearing down the ideas of Obama? That's the way it's done in a campaign and every wise politician KNOWS this - it's like playing the devil's advocate. A mature candidate will be able to shake hands at the end of the campaign whilst stating, "Hey, no hard feelings."

Hillary has thick skin, tough know-how, action/experience to back up her words, wisdom, and what I am beginning to see as an "emerging heart of a woman" who's primary concern is to heal America of it's wounds and amend it's trespasses. Like Lady Liberty, the First Lady stands for freedom and justice for all. America needs a healing presence in a position of power - only a female can bring it through.

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Girl Power! | June 4, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Bluefish2012- Smart or perceptive you are not. As Senator Joe Biden said- "win or lose Hillary Clinton is the most important woman politician in the nation, with due respect to Nancy Pelosi".

Hillary Clinton doesn't need Barack Obama at this time. She has 4 more years as a NY Senator and any astute politician will tell you that seat is hers as long as she wants it.

There isn't a woman politician running for office in the next few years, or most men running as Democrats, who wouldn't want her to come and help them.

It may not count in Democratic tallies but the reality is that Hillary Clinton has gotten more votes, nearly 18,000,000 than any other primary candidate in history.

So the Obama supporters better take a lead from your candidate. Be nice to Hillary or you do so at your own candidates peril. Without Hillary's support whether she is on the ticket or only campaigning for him- Obama will find it hard to win. The coaltion of African Americans, liberal elite, and young voters alone won't get him 270 electoral votes.

Obama is smart and is playing to Hillary-he can afford to now - he is the winner. His supporters would be wise to do the same. The nomination is useless if you can't win in November.

Posted by: peterdc | June 4, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Hillary - go iron some shirts. Also, you need to lose some weight. You are seriously piggy looking.

Posted by: Yuri Lipitzmeov | June 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Please, please simply get the Clintons out
of the press. The majority has seen them
for what they are.

Posted by: Bruddah | June 4, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"Obama Camp Dismisses VP Speculation"

--as well they should; Billary would be a blast from the past as president, and she does not begin to qualify for the USC. Her negatives would be a drag on the ticket. Some Republicans and conservative Democrats are intrigued by Obama, but Hillary is anathema to them.

Adios, Hillary. If N.Y. keeps you, they deserve what they get.

Posted by: bluefish2012 | June 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Unless the Democrats want a menage-a-trois presidency, they had better find anyone but Hillary. Hillary, always says that her and Bill Clinton are a two-for-one package. The democratic White House would be better off without Baggage Bill, making even more unsavory headlines and questionable business dealings.

Posted by: Terri | June 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Boy Obama's supporters are sore sports. In this Hillary holds all of the cards, and the math is simple: Make her happy or lose to McCain in the fall. Obama just can't win if people who voted for Hillary either do not vote, or vote for McCain. Hillary just needs to come up with a list of what she wants and he is pretty much going to have to do it, whether it is VP or things on the platform, or paying off her debt.... whatever

Posted by: DCDave | June 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Delusional Hillary is still playing games, she needs to understand she is the loser and her and her cronies get nothing. That sorry lot of democrats have done nothing in the last seven years but vote for the war and get rich off of lobbyists. She does not measure up to the high moral standards of the Obama ticket.

Posted by: gilesjp | June 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if she's just staying in it to pay off some of that $40,000,000.00 debt she's accumulated? Or at least 11 million of it. I say let her run as an independent it will be good for America. A viable third party candidate, she can be funded by West Virginia and Kentucky and Bill can be her Poverty Czar. That campaign will last three weeks before it goes broke.

Posted by: Sef | June 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Right,
Only white racist can be President.

Posted by: Sef | June 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Billaryworld, don't use Texas in your example. She won the primary by a small margin, but Obama won the caucus and collected the most delegates.
If you see a Clinton in Texas, they are high-tailing it out of town. We know them all too well.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is a great campaigner, but the ability to make wonderfully inspiring speeches is not the same as the ability to fulfill the demands of the presidency."
Posted by: Bob S

But cancer-head McCain has "the ability to fulfill the demands of the presidency"? How much is one plus one? How many fingers do you see? If you can't be logical, at least be conscious.

Posted by: edwcorey | June 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

THE LADY CLINTON CONTINUES TO BE PRESUMPTUOS. A FEW MONTHS AGO, HER CAMPAIGN HINTED THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT TEAM IF BARACK WERE TO ACCEPT BEING HER VICE PRESIDENT. OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE NOT COME THIS FAR TO SETTLE FOR SUCH NONSENSE.
NOW THAT SHE HAS LOST THE PIRET SPOT IN THE TICKET SHE IS ANGLING TO BE IN THE SECOND SPOT AS VICE-PRESIDENT. SHE BELIEVES THAT NO WOMAN WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA. WHAT AN EGO. MY OPINION IS THAT AMERICAN WOMEN ARE SMARTER THAN THAT. THEY WILL NOT THROW AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY BETTER BY ELECTING McCAIN. I TRUST THEIR INTELLIGENCE.
MRS CLINTON HAD HER CHANCE, SHE PUT A GOOD CAMPAIGN WITHOUT EXAGERATING HER QUALIFICATIONS TOO MUCH. BUT AL THE END THE BEST CANDIDATE WON. HE DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT HIS VISION.

Posted by: CARLOS M. | June 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama should promise Sen. Clinton the next Supreme Court position...and in the meantime have her be the universal health care czar. She's been working on it a long time, knows all the mistakes she made last time, and has the passion to work it through Congress.

Posted by: Joan | June 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It will be sad to see another Republican in the presidency, but it would be even sadder to see someone whose basically totally inexperienced in the presidency. True, Obama is a great campaigner, but the ability to make wonderfully inspiring speeches is not the same as the ability to fulfill the demands of the presidency.

Posted by: Bob S | June 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The vast majority of the seventeen million persons who supported Senator Clinton will vote for Barack, without her on the ticket.
Most of the minority will not vote and a few will vote for McCain. So be it.

Barack though will lose far more net votes if he chooses Clinton as the vice-presidential nominee. Conservative Republicans wary of McCain will vote for him en masse because they do not want a highly ambitious Clinton next in line to be president. Many independents who otherwise will vote for Barack, will see him as being weak, an appeaser, not strong enough to be president. Some of Barack's supporters, offended by the lack of respect, belittling, mocking shown by the Clintons will not vote for president.

Perhaps this is part of the strategy of the Clinton camp. Demand, pressure Barack to choose Clinton as his running mate, stirring up her followers. Senator Clinto may think she then wins in either possible scenario. Barack succumbs to pressure, she may become vice-president, then president. Or he is widely perceived as so weak in choosing her, he loses the election. The Clintons aboslve themselves of any role in his defeat, she tries again in four years.
Very shrewd and cunning strategy.

However, hopefully Barack will be strong, not offer her the vice-presidency, and win the election on his own merits.

Posted by: Independent | June 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately Barack is in a bit of a no-win situation given Hillary's hard-ball. If he doesn't put her on the ticket, he loses the Angry Old Women in Ohio vote, but if he puts her on he loses the independents, looks weak when that's not his strong suit anyway, and makes his "change" theme look as politically cynical as his leaving Trinity. Tough call.

Those of you who see Obama/Clinton as a landslide over McCain, keep dreaming.

Posted by: train wreck coming | June 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Terry McAuliffe introduced Hillary Clinton at Baruch as "the next president of the United States."

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Posted by: | June 4, 2008 12:39 PM

I wonder at what point they decide that it just isnt going to happen
maybe she and bill are in the back of a pickup in some small town in texas, a massive flag writhes in the wind behind them
hillary holds the mic that is plugged into a boom box on the end of the tailgate...
cranked to 10
every once in awhile some interference from a radio station breaks through
"band on the run"
a tumbleweed issues forth small puffs of dust as it touches down and then is picked up again and hurrled along an invisible path.
An old man sits on a five gallon buckett eating a peach, his overalls stained with grease, behind him is several cars with their hoods up... and behind those more car parts
"You can decide this nomination! you can pick the next president" hillary exclaims
"fly like an eagle" breaks through for a second but just a second eliciting a round of applause from bill who sits with his beat red face, sweat rolling down his brow... he has a nice straw hat on... frayed at the ends. Two pins are stuck to it
"not an elitist" and "hillary 08"
the old man slurps on his peach and then stands...His words mostly muttled and unintelligible because of his missing teeth
"ok i need to jack that truck up, can we get this over with?"
"you gonna finish that peach" asks bill
the man tosses bill the peach
Hillary waves at the... crowd...
and then she and bill both jump down and pack up the flag
...and they get on their tandem bicycle and head off into the sunset, onto their next campaign spot...as President Obama's motorcade speeds by...

Posted by: billaryworld | June 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Terry McAuliffe introduced Hillary Clinton at Baruch as "the next president of the United States."

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I see a lot of "wake up Clinton supporters", but did you consider that as much as you believe in your candidate, we believe in ours? Perhaps there would be unity and balance for all of us if they ran together? Do consider if you would hope that they would run together if the roles were reversed. I would.

Posted by: Unity | June 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

For heaven's sake, all of you Clinton supporters who say you will not vote for Obama. Think: "Supreme Court." Do you really want at least two more members of the Court to be appointed by a Republican? The long term ramifications of that for Americans makes this conflict between Obama and Clinton supporters pale in comparison. Come on, people--use your brains.

Posted by: Rational | June 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE! ALL THE PEOPLE!
WE, the voters are the people.
Let them unite US and represent "we the people" and balance our interests as a whole. This election was split, 50/50, lets not disregard the other half of America. We must have balance and unity to succeed.

Posted by: Proud in Portland | June 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Axelrod is correct: there are bigger things at stake.

Posted by: Tom J | June 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I want everyone to know that Hillary Clinton has to be the rudest person on earth, the most prejudist, most elitist person to have run for office. SHE thinks that she deserves the nomination over Obama, she claims to have won the most popular votes. Before last night she had less then 3000 over Obama, after the victory in Montana, he has taken that lead from her. Now let me say this, the democratic party DOES NOT elect the nominee by popular vote, it is by delegates. Obama has received almost 250 more delegates then Clinton, and more leaving her camp to come onboard a winning camp. Why the rest of the superdelegates don't move is beyond me, has Clinton made some back door deals that she cannot fulfill with these people? I think so.

She will never be Obama's VP this election nor the election in 2012. I think she has ruined her career in the Senate (A lot of Senator's do not even like her) and her chances of a future anywhere else in politics. Her speech last night had to be the most disrespectful thing she could have done to end her career gracefully, instead she put the biggest wedge in the democratic party. SHAME ON YOU HILLARY, I am a white woman, and what you have done is embarrased the white women community to look desperate, as you are and have been since you knew it was over. I hope that in the next few days, you have an epiphany and say, Yes the best man won and move on.

Posted by: Judy | June 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Being that Hillary supporters would never vote for Obama, there really is no need to have Hillary as a VP option, since it would bring in no support from her team, and would lose support from the Obama team.

Hillary has no value to the democrats at this point, due to her supporters.

Posted by: Franky | June 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

It's the only way Obama will get my vote in Nov.

Posted by: Gene_FL | June 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

We don't need the Clinton personality cult in the White House. Obama please just say no.

Posted by: James | June 4, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Just because Hillary and her supporters are completely delusional doesn't mean that we have to play along.

Progress moves us forward, not backwards. Hillary has to realize just how old school she is. There is no place for her in Obama's administration or cabinet. He's just not interested. She's about the past and he's about the future. That means she doesn't have a chance.

Posted by: Dr. Johnny Skeptic | June 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

If Obama want the support of Murdoch, AIPAC, and the Kabbalists, he should make Hillary his VP and forget about the 1.8 million donors who have supported his campaign. If the Kabbalists don't get their person in the VP slot they will lose a lot of their control, power and the NWO agenda might be in jeopardy.
http://joeland7.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/the-new-world-order-religious-and-political-conspiracy/

Posted by: joe | June 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

seedofchange, bitterness and hatred is not good for your health. It can also prematurely age you. Let it go... it's over. there...there. If you want to cut off your nose to spite your face, then go ahead. Thankfully there are more smart people in America than ignorant ones and your voting Republican will not deter Obama from becoming President of the USA.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!

Posted by: yeswecan | June 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

There were many flaws in the reporting of each candidate over the months by the media. By far Mr Obama had a very easy and un challenged ride.Mrs Clinton was often ridiculed and patronised & at times by Mr Obama himself. We asked questions of the accuracy of his words and the construction of his image because we could see there were inconsistencies from one context to another.The media never did. no-one in the American media seem to be bothered with challenging these inconsistencies. They seemed like groupies, charmed by the glamour and celebity, looks and charisma that Mr Obama constructed about himself and his image.Will being a celebrity mean he will be a good president? Or does it really mean that the world of celebrity is the new way of the world;this change everyone promoted and wanted.

Posted by: B.Ward | June 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Joe Turner-Obama's campaign has been extremely kind and respectful to Hillary. Do you really need to be told that Obama fans are NOT part of the campaign?

Get a grip.

Posted by: Oh Please! | June 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The vice-presidency, according to Cactus Jack Garner, former speaker of the house and VP under two terms of Franklin Roosevelt is most noted for saying the vice presidency wasn't worth "a warm bucket of spit," although reporters allegedly changed the spelling of the last word for print."

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

It's good to see that the humanitarian liberals can be as half-assed, illogical, bitter and hateful as any other group. It's as if Karl Rove has taken over the Obama PR machine. These latest hateful emotional statements by Obama fans seem to overlook the fact that Hillary won over 30 million popular votes. As Jim Carville said, what was it about the Clinton Admin that you didn't like, was it the peace or the prosperity. What was Obama's popular vote count?

Posted by: joe turner | June 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, the VP spot is highly overrated.

I think it would be much better and more historic for Clinton to go to a newly created cabinet position that oversees and solves the nation's health care crisis.

Posted by: Lynne | June 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Seed of change is an idiot and a bigot.

Beware of Republican TROLLS fomenting division.

Posted by: kamenwati | June 4, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Well, well, well....when are you Obama fans going to realize that Hillary supporters are logical stable people who have taken all they can take? You insist on slighting her every chance you get. Do you HONESTLY think that this helps HIM?

I love this country and I'm proud of being a Democrat - BUT, I'm not proud of how you are acting - HATE gets you nowehere.

When go to bed at night, think about 18M voters who feel like I do, because of people like you. NO VOTE IN NOV.

Sorry Obama, but blame your freaky fanatics when you lose. We've HAD ENOUGH!

Posted by: MikeinDC | June 4, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Can any Clinton supporter actually name a significant piece of legislation that passed that this so called "policy-wonk" authored? Can any Clinton supporter explain why they support a candidate who couldn't play, or win, by the rules she agreed to, repeatedly got caught lying, and had a history of financial scandals? Why did you let her claim to be a populist when she didn't even promptly pay off the small businesses her campaign dealt with? The bottom line is, if she hadn't been married to Bill, you would have never heard of her. She has accomplished nothing but misleading the easily fooled.

Posted by: Jomama | June 4, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

REPUBLICAN TROLLS OR HILLARY MANIACS?

CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE??

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?

DOES ANYONE REALLY CARE?

Sorry, GOP, your tactics aren't working this time.............

Posted by: Trolls | June 4, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Obama needs to look forward and throw away the veep hopefuls who represent old Washington. He has several people on his veep list, both men and women, all of whom would make a great contribution as his running mate.

But Hillary Clinton is not one of them. With her assassination comment, I would not trust her at all to be my veep. At the very most, I think that there may be a possibility of putting her in the position of Secretary of Healthcare, but not in a position of potential power where she could take over.

I think that it might be wise that she undergo psychological analysis before the idea of being on Obama's cabinet comes to any fruition. I would insist on an extensive evaluation.

Posted by: Dr. Johnny Skeptic | June 4, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Never Obama,

Please shut the hell up and go register Republican. You "Hillary" maniacs are just self loathing idiots looking for some way to externalize your hatred of yourselves, just like REPUBLICANS.

So go be with your own kind and quit telling us how important you THINK you are!

Posted by: REASON | June 4, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Neither one of the candidates were racist. They stated demographics. Any racism came from the voters who misread what was being said. One demographic that Hillary is hurting right now is the women voters. Her failure to concede and support the democratic nominee is going to have a detrimental effect on any woman seeking the presidency in the future. No one is going to allow a women to remain in a contest for so long, only to continue to destroy the party when the when they lose. The will most likely be voted out quite early to avoid a messy ending, and any woman who would otherwise prevail in a general election will never be given the opportunity.
At the end of 6/2, Obama needed 40 undeclared delegates. He only needed 3 uncommited delegates. I knew that so I'm sure Hillary did and she should have prepared for the inevitable early on so that she could concede and begin to bring this party together.

Posted by: Alfie | June 4, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Whitewater, Madison Guaranty S&L, Vince Foster, Bill Clinton (Barry Seal, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, presidential pardons), Peter Paul, Raining Bullets in Bosnia, Assassinate Obama...

This is the baggage Hillary Clinton brings to the ticket. Barack Obama would be INSANE to pick up this suitcase when his is already full.

Posted by: Yes We Can! | June 4, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

This person, HRC, is capable of accepting an offer of the vice-presidency from McCain.

Posted by: Quasimodo | June 4, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm so tired of folks saying Sen Obama is not qualified to be President. What makes you qualified to be President? Does it say you have to be in Congress for so many years? Do you have to be a spouse in the White House for so many years? Do you have to be a Governor, a mayor, a State Rep? Where does it say what you need to have done in order to be President? If a Clinton supporter can provide that information, it would be really helpful for us Obama supporters to understand.

Posted by: Ray H in VA | June 4, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

I wish everyone would stop calling Obama a black man. He is neither black nor white. He is half black and half white, All American.. Let us not forget Virginia's 1/8 rule.

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is an amazing rude person. Petty and vengeful. Who would want that covering their backs?

She is so disresectful to Obama because he is a Black person. I am a life-long(60 years) so-called ethnic lunch-bucket Democrat. I have never seen such disrespect for the Democratic Party as Hillary Clinton's refusal to concede. I am disgusted with the Clintons. They are so so self-serving.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is an amazing rude person. Petty and vengeful. Who would want that covering their backs?

She is so disresectful to Obama because he is a Black person. I am a life-long(60 years) so-called ethnic lunch-bucket Democrat. I have never seen such disrespect for the Democratic Party as Hillary Clinton's refusal to concede. I am disgusted with the Clintons. They are so so self-serving.

Posted by: northlite | June 4, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Despite the bitterness of the Hillary zeaolots, the absurd comments that he will never win without her, the absurd comments about Barack buying the election (with my money and millions of other dollar a day donors, I think he should strongly consider Hillary as his running mate. I don't know that she would be a great VP. I think she'd be too ambitious, with too much baggage, and very difficult to work with. But she would bring her constituency and the Republican independent vote. And the opportunity to make history is almost too difficult to pass up. The first African-American and the first woman in the White House?

Without her Barack will win, but I won't get as much sleep, knowing that it will be a closely contested election in November. With Hillary on the ticket John McCain could resurrect Abe, put him on the ticket and still get whupped.

Posted by: drcalm | June 4, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Despite the bitterness of the Hillary zeaolots, the absurd comments that he will never win without her, the absurd comments about Barack buying the election (with my money and millions of other dollar a day donors, I think he should strongly consider Hillary as his running mate. I don't know that she would be a great VP. I think she'd be too ambitious, with too much baggage, and very difficult to work with. But she would bring her constituency and the Republican independent vote. And the opportunity to make history is almost too difficult to pass up. The first African-American and the first woman in the White House?

Without her Barack will win, but I won't get as much sleep, knowing that it will be a closely contested election in November. With Hillary on the ticket John McCain could resurrect Abe, put him on the ticket and still get whupped.

Posted by: drcalm | June 4, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Thank God! Obama does not need Hillary! We need CHANGE!

Posted by: Carol Castellano | June 4, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Turns out Obama was talking about Hillary supporters when he spoke of people who were bitter...

I have heard far more divisive and angry attach messages from Hillary than Obama but yet Hillary supporters want to rage against a guy that has come to this nomination naturally from a grass-roots initiative. Yeah, he had a lot of money, because I and a lot of others gave him $25 back in 2006 and since. Just face it that Hillary was not the uniter we all want and remember the values that you want in there so we get Obama to stand strong for us all.

Posted by: WM4O | June 4, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

We need experience to get this country back to prosperity, Hillary has what it takes to do it.


No, Bill Clinton has relevant experience having been the POTUS, MRS Clinton has experience campaigning and is his wife. She has had a lack luster career in the senate, has run a terrible campaign, and is claiming that more people voted for her; they did not and I wonder if they did would they vote for her again?

Posted by: josh camp | June 4, 2008 5:55 AM | Report abuse

All you ever hear is that Obama is not open to Hillary. Michelle is not open to Hillary.

Well, the last time I heard, they keep saying they are not in it for themselves. Just another one of their lies.

Hillary is their only way to win. Period.

Hillary knows what is best for this country.

Obama has stepped on Hillary and Bill to get quickly where he is, fine.

Obama, now, will only make it to the top with her hot breath on the back of his neck for at least 4 years.

Now that is truly poetic justice!

Posted by: Hill's Hot Breath - yeah! | June 4, 2008 5:33 AM | Report abuse

Obama is not Lincoln. Obama is not anyone in our history that he tries to tie himself with. Obama has also tried to tie himself with every single historic event possible. From his parents meeting to his undeclared "uncle" both complete and utter lies.

Obama has had more money and media manipulation than anyone in American history and he still can't close the deal.

143 working days in the senate are the number of working days obama had until he announced his exploratory committee to run.

Obama, if elected, will be the Democratic GWB.

Posted by: still can't close the deal | June 4, 2008 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a weasel. A political weasel.

The only way I will ever vote for a ticket that has his name on it is if Hillary is an equal partner.

Obama has the nomination and all you hear on the t.v. is boo-hoo everyone is a racist. What? He is still playing the crying game?

My God, he is not even a gracious "winner".

I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever vote for him.

I will only vote for an "obama" ticket if Hillary is on it!

Does anyone out there get that? If you don't then you will in the General because I am not alone!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Never Obama | June 4, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

With all the sniping from the Clinton camp about whether Barack Obama has enough experience to make a strong president, consider another presidential candidate who was far more of a novice. He had the gall to run for president even though he had served a single undistinguished term in the House of Representatives, before being hounded back to his district.

That was Abraham Lincoln.

Another successful president scorned any need for years of apprenticeship in Washington, declaring, "The same old experience is not relevant." He suggested that the most useful training comes not from hanging around the White House and Congress but rather from experience "rooted in the real lives of real people" so that "it will bring real results if we have the courage to change."

That was Bill Clinton running in 1992 against George H. W. Bush, who was then trumpeting his own experience over the callow youth of Bill Clinton. That year Bush aired a television commercial urging voters to keep America "in the hands of experience."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/20/opinion/edkristof.php

Posted by: Veneita | June 4, 2008 3:22 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if President Clinton had any sort of déjà vu when on the Charlie Rose Show Friday he characterized Obama's supporters as thinking "we're willing to risk it ... we're prepared to roll the dice."

I'm old enough, regrettably, for that language to seem familiar ... familiar ... familiar ... (Cue flashback music and video dissolve.)

I see it now ... they're assailing the handsome young candidate as a risk ... as a roll of the dice.

"We simply cannot take the risk on Governor Clinton," said then-President George H.W. Bush in November 1992. "His experience and character do not meet the criterion of the Oval Office."

Said Bush adviser Robert Blackwill to the Hotline in August '92: "This is not a time to gamble with our future. Electing Bill Clinton president would be rolling the dice."

And on and on and on. But you get the idea.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to change out of these acid-washed Bugle Boy jeans I somehow find myself wearing.

Posted by: Veneita | June 4, 2008 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Obama for President... nice guy but underqualifed. Obama supporters -mostly very young- do not remember J Carter's years. Nice guys with good intentions do not make good country administrators.
We need experience to get this country back to prosperity, Hillary has what it takes to do it.

Posted by: Adrianna | June 3, 2008 9:48 PM

For your information Obama has more years in public office than bill clinton did when he was elected president and than hillary has now. WJC never held office at the federal level. Get the facts right!

Posted by: Veneita | June 4, 2008 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Sadly, she is out collecting $ from her loyal supporters who believe it will be used for a Denver fight when it will be used to pay her bills and repay her $20 million to herself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAu39I5QOUc

Posted by: Veneita | June 4, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

vote for mccain and get out your coat hangers.

Posted by: Veneita | June 4, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys, why don't you post some of the direct quotations from Barack Obama's mouth where he has said racist things. I'd like to read them.

How can Obama offer what she is trying to demand? Does she expect Obama to be Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy?

Posted by: Veneita | June 4, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

If you really want to support Hillary and love her like I do, please go to Hillary.com and give her money. I know many of you posting haven't given yet, but right now I know she really needs your hard earned money so she can continue the fight all the way to the convention!

Posted by: Hillary C | June 4, 2008 1:47 AM

Good one, Hillary C.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

I have just read all of the postings on the Washington Post Comments and it to say the least is a sad representation of the American conscience it is true that this world is changing as it must, but blindness comes in many many forms and the misgivings of the aforementioned is more than scary. The arbitrary ramblings of people who didn't get what they wanted as well as those who did, I cringe at what I've read and what I've understood it to mean. Can we for any second of any day forget, that it was a short time ago, illegal for a Black Person to read ( the laws for such are still on the books in some states ) I truly believe that most of us AMERICANS don't know how HEALTHY change is, we seem not to acknowledge this as a fact of LIFE, THE WORLD, me , you, The UNIVERSE, We all search for the balance we know is there, but is so elusive to touch. I am one who cried when John died, when Bobby died. LIes and Misgivings have we not had enough. We heard about the bullets that challenged Hillary on the Tarmac and how she misspoke in the distasteful Kennedy references and shameful apologies. I notice her tenacity, her intelligence, her gumption and energy, But I don't see in her eyes what I saw in the eyes of Lincoln, FDR, the Kennedys, ( both JOHN and BOBBY) ..........KINDNESS and WISDOM no I don't see it and I looked for it and I don't believe one can do this job like it should be done without it. How can one ? One cannot with out it. We have had ones trying to do the JOB with out it and a mess of things is truly present. I see these things.... WISDOM and KINDNESS in BARACK OBAMA's eyes, I hear it in his words, words that come not from some totally staged opus, but from his AMERICAN, AMERICAN heart. His wisdom comes through over and over and his kindness like a rudder guides it to those who are truly listening ......WATCHING !!
If you watch you WILL SEE IT TOO !!!

Posted by: Odell Hobbs | June 4, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

Regarding -Richard Heckler- former Obama support. First Obama NEVER called Hillary or Bill a racist- HE HAS TOO MUCH CLASS. What was said was said my others- reports, who simply said Hillary's comments before a crowd of white people saying that Sen. Obama's not like US etc- perhaps isn't smart. And Ms. Ferraro (a Clinton staffer) put 3 feet in her mouth calling Sen Obama a sexist...well I'll excuse her as she don't get out much.

Posted by: Lizardking | June 4, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Black racist, Osama, vote for McCain if Hillary isn't on the ticket?? My god what a bunch of psychotics who follow Hillary. One half to one third of Hillary followers WILL vote for Obama because they care about their Country and do use their brains to think logically. The remaining HRC followers will be lost somewhere in their little hate filled pea brains. What arrogance to say that these few haters speak for all of the Hillary people. Ooooo, we're so scared!!

Posted by: LAJ | June 4, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Read this and do what you want. Truth or Lie you decide. I wish I could talk more BUT>>>

First - Hillary wants Obama to LOSE.
To that end she is giving the
Republicans the cover they need
to Flip the elections. The
count will be rigged and all the
pudits have to say is I guess the
Hillary Dems gave the election to
Sen. McCain.

Second- This will explain the down ticket
irregularities of a Dem voting
across the board Dem, but when
they flip the vote for President-
it'll be explained away as just
another angry Hillary voter.

Third - Why? Look at who was sponsoring
her for that answer. Big Biz-
military (she loved the war $),
Telecom, FOX NEWS, OIL, you name
it. But, they didn't count on some
guy raising 100 million from Mom
and Pop donors..couldn't see that
coming - thought Hill was sure
thing..smash everyone on super
Tuesday- OOPPS ..folks were pissed
Bill was told get out there kick
some ass.

Forth _ Hillary was supposed to have been
their ace in the hole- The Repub.
Candidate was a redherring..bate
and switch all the way. But, who
knew..all the money couldn't put
lip stick on this pig. Guess the
Rush Limbaugh operation didn't help
like they hope.

Fifth- These guys are desparate...OBAMA
needs to pick someone that scares
them more them he does- John Edwards


Posted by: Clinton insider | June 4, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

I respect your voice, your opinion, your vote but you need to understand the difference between congratulating Obama CONGRATULATING Obama. Its just the kind of spirit we cannot deal with.
Posted by: whocares | June 4, 2008 1:44 AM

She did not acknowlege that he won the nomination--which he has. THAT is the problem. She did congratulate him, though, unlike MANY other speeches where she did not.

I work with Al Gore on environmental issues and got to tag along when he testified on Capitol Hill. Every Senator--before he even spoke--went on and on praising his long history as an environmental advocate. Republicans and Democrats, both. EXCEPT Hillary Clinton. She barely acknowledged that she knew him and had not a WORD of praise.

From what I've heard there is no love lost there, but to be so intentionally brazenly rude and UNGRACIOUS deeply shocked me. There is truly a psychopathology there. Truly.

Obama '08 and '12

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Tonight as usual, was all about Hillary. Hillary failed to acknowledge this historic moment for Obama as the first black man to be the Presumptive Democratic Nominee or to even allow her followers there with her in the basement to know that Obama is the Presumptive Presidential Nominee. Is her ego really so massive? More offensive was her request of those in attendance and viewers at home, you know the drill........go to HillaryClinton.com.........

Posted by: LAJ | June 4, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Vice Presidential Suggestions:

Maria Cantwell
Kathleen Sebelius
Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
Laura Flanders
Debbie Stabenow

Hillary Clinton would be more effective as a powerful senator from New York.

Posted by: Richard Heckler | June 4, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

"this is coming from someone who actually "liked" Obama at one time, but that was BEFORE his campaign insisted upon accusing Hillary Clinton of being a racist for pointing to LBJ's role in civil rights. Having lived through that era and knowing just what LBJ's role in civil rights meant in terms of the Democratic Party losing the entire South for a generation, I was repulsed and disgusted that ANYONE would make such a stupid accusation."
Posted by: StatBabe

Well, maybe it's just me, but I found this comment--in and of itself--pretty jarring:

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to get it done." Hillary Clinton

It's obvious, calculated intent is to marginalize both MLK and Barack Obama.
The fact that the Obama campaign pointed it out is merely incidental. And the real point isn't whether she is racist or not (or even race baiting) the point is about what this country is about and where change comes from.

I may not have 'lived through those times' but I know enough to know that MLK was the major inspirational force behind the civil rights movement and that's why we celebrate his birthday as a national holiday every year--NOT LBJs.

And in Hillary's scenario it is quite clear that she envisions herself as the President who 'gets the job done'. But our country is not all about ultimate power--at least not in my opinion. In my opinion, it is about the ultimate power of the people.

And in just listening to those two speeches tonight, the difference is stark:

Hillary: "I, I WON, ME, ME, I, WHAT DOES HILLARY WANT, I, ME"

Barack: "This is our time, this is our moment. Together you and I can change this country and change the world."


Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton as Vice President???
Then Obama had better hire a food tester and beef up that Secret Service protection. Good luck.

Posted by: rosa gallica | June 4, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

peahirider: "I will never vote for someone who supported the Iraq war. That line I will not cross under any circumstances."

Me neither. That's the only difference between Hillary and Obama that I care about - and it means everything.

All the rest is just noise.

Posted by: bkaufmann | June 4, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

What a graceless lady Hillary turned out to be; not a pretty picture. She cares not one bit for our party..I could not be more disappointed in her. There's NO way she should be on the ticket, period.

Posted by: bluebabe | June 4, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

If you really want to support Hillary and love her like I do, please go to Hillary.com and give her money. I know many of you posting haven't given yet, but right now I know she really needs your hard earned money so she can continue the fight all the way to the convention!

Posted by: Hillary C | June 4, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

statbabe... after your commment here, I did not have the heart to read on.. you can take your vote to McCain if you want to but I will say this, "People like you need to be objective and there is nothing personal here".

Please vote for whoever you want to vote for but I am voting for Obama. And I can bet that a majority of Americans are also going to do the same.

I respect your voice, your opinion, your vote but you need to understand the difference between congratulating Obama CONGRATULATING Obama. Its just the kind of spirit we cannot deal with.

Posted by: whocares | June 4, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

The Country is bigger than the Clintons

Posted by: Hope | June 4, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

no, clinton did not congratulate obama; she insulted him and the party by asking people to send her an email with opinions as to what she should do (like she really cares what anybody thinks) & money; she cares only for her thoughts and asperations; cnn had it right: clintons think its their time and anyone else can wait; they are sticking to their profile: no integrity, selfish and liars. i'm a disabled, retired republican and a vietnam veteran who is voting for obama; my wife & myself along with our adopted daughter of 23 all believe obama is both our generations' opportunity whose time is now; we pray to God we see him in the white house uniting our country and, who knows, maybe the world. God Bless....

Posted by: bill | June 4, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

i just heard Hillary wants a joint ticket with McCain not Obama. hahahahahaha. She seems not to beleive, even imagine in her dream,herself being Bills wife, white....... lossing to a guy name Barack Hussien Obama. Go Obama............

Posted by: Mike | June 4, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

I am an Obama supporter who probably would have supported Senator Clinton had she not done the following:
1. voted for the Iraq war resolution
2. sponsored a flag-burning amendment
3. voted for the resolution calling Iran's Republican Guard a "terrorist" organization, which seemed to underscore the fact that she did not realize the significance of point #1 above
In short, Senator Clinton appeared to hold views that were antithetical to mine, so I naturally looked for another candidate with views similar to mine. I will never vote for someone who supported the Iraq war. That line I will not cross under any circumstances.

Posted by: peahirider | June 4, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

To: InSearchOfTruth

Sputtering those useless McCain themes... LOL. Are you one of the folks they pay to "infiltrate" the liberal blogs. Too funny.

Posted by: susanb2010 | June 4, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

What has McCain's experience gotten us? He votes against Veterans' benefits and just today on Military.com we got a notice that Tri-Care compensation to doctors will go down more than 10% MORE, as it is tied to Medicare (which will also go down). It's already hard to find a doctor who will take us with Tri-Care since they lose money by treating us. Some people cannot find a doctor where they live, so their military health insurance might as well not exist. This is a benefit they have earned and is being denied.

Obama seems to care more about Vets and military families than McCain. My husband served four tours of duty in Viet Nam, my brother was in VA Hospitals and homes from Viet Nam to his death several yaars ago. Despite the wonderful staff, from what I saw when visiting him, the level of care, facilities, and accessibility has not improved in all those years and may have gotten worse. Where were these experienced people that were in office and their leadership all this time? During the Clinton years many bases were closed, making it even harder on military families.

I worry about our young people coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan and not getting the care they need and deserve. Obama often brings up the plight of Vets who are homeless and says this will not continue. No one else has brought this up and this is something that should never have been allowed in this country. Obama voted for the new GI Bill and McCain did not. I think common sense and compassion trumps so-called "experience" every time. This military family is voting for Obama!

Posted by: connect the dots | June 4, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Look, guys. We have a nominee. Move on and leave the past behind. Look to the future, the coming fight to capture the White House and Congress. Fighting among supporters of both sides is absolutely useless and futile.

"It's our time." That means Obama supporters, Clinton supporters, Republicans, Independents - All Americans.

Posted by: RFBorjal | June 4, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Sue f said:

"Even in defeat and on such a historic night she couldn't congratulate Obama. It's still all about her! She has no class, and tonight I was going to be nice and give her the benefit of the doubt, well sorry folks but she's not even Janitorial material for the WH."

Does your hatred for Hillary Clinton have no limits??? READ what Senator Clinton had to say tonight:

"I want to start tonight by congratulating Senator Obama and his supporters on the extraordinary race that they have run. Senator Obama has inspired so many Americans to care about politics and empowered so many more to get involved, and our party and our democracy is stronger and more vibrant as a result. So, we are grateful, and it has been an honor to contest these primaries with him, just as it is an honor to call him my friend. And tonight, I would like all of us to take a moment to recognize him and his supporters for all they have accomplished."

It certainly "sounded" to me like Senator Clinton congratulated Senator Obama, but I suppose that depends on the definition of "congratulate". All of you Obama supporters who are so eaten up with vitriol for Hillary Clinton because she actually had the NERVE to continue in this race after losing in Iowa, you better get over it or prepare to LOSE in November since you are driving Democrats like me AWAY from the party! I have no intention of voting for McCain, but with the venom that I have read from Obama supporters for the past several months, I am increasingly finding a reason to vote for Senator Obama! I am as repulsed by the vitriol and hatred of the Obama supporters for Senator Clinton as I was by the vitriol and hatred of the Bush supporters for Vice-President Gore in 2000 and for Senator Kerry in 2004! What you people prove over and over again is that extremists on the left are just as loathesome as those on the right! And guess what? There are a lot more of people like me who fit neatly into the middle that you will NEED in November to win--either face that or go down in flames like George McGovern and Sargent Shriver in 1972!

Posted by: StatBabe | June 4, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

It seems like people need to realize the difference between people who post on blogs and the candidate's campaigns.
Obama's campaign never called Hillary or her supporters racists, but plenty of people on comment boards, blogs, etc. have. Hillary's campaign haven't called Obama sexist, but you see this on the blogs, etc.
Divisive language is popular online because we are all anonymous - no consequences!
We need to move past confusing the candidates with the media/blogosphere debates about them.

Posted by: Tania | June 4, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

He doesn't need Hilary, but he better find a way to pursue her voters because he cannot win without them. The republicans will cage list and challenge all of the students, military, and young first time voters. I will vote the party line but I have overheard a lot of older women (who have voted since I was born) say they will stay home. They feel disrespected - by the media, you name it.

Posted by: cj | June 4, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary is the VP, I will not vote for Obama.

Posted by: RB | June 4, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

There are real objections to a Hillary VP nom that have nothing to do with Obama's followers feelings. The biggest one is that it will keep the issues of the primary front and center, at a time when the focus needs to shift. Clinton made several remarks that would come back to haunt the Obama candidacy, doubly so if she were the VP.
Her comments about Obama not passing the threshold of qualifications needed to be CIC are particularly damaging when you consider her in a VP spot. Also troubling was the "Rev. Wright would not have been my pastor" comment.
The Republican attack ads could basically write themselves.
If the campaign hadn't been so rancorous, i would give her better chances for the VP slot, as it stands I think Obama will have to woo her supporters some other way.

Posted by: Tania | June 4, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

For all of you Obamabots who seem bound and determined to throw Clinton supporters under the bus, let me remind you of a few things about your precious candidate. Unlike Hillary Clinton, Obama voted FOR Cheney's lobbyist-written energy bill. Unlike Hillary Clinton, Obama voted AGAINST capping interest rates on credit cards. And while Bill Clinton took money from God-knows for his library, the Obamas managed to purchase a mansion with the assistance of indicted political "fixer" Tony Rezko. And for all of Obama's bluster about not taking money from corporations when, in fact, NO CANDIDATE takes money from corporations because it is illegal, Obama has actually taken in MORE money from corporate-connected sources than EITHER Clinton or McCain.

Having said all that, I have no intention of voting for McCain because I certainly recognize that he stands for everything that I loathe. Nevertheless, the more vitriol and venom that read spewed toward the Clintons', the more I just want to stay home in November. And mind you, this is coming from someone who actually "liked" Obama at one time, but that was BEFORE his campaign insisted upon accusing Hillary Clinton of being a racist for pointing to LBJ's role in civil rights. Having lived through that era and knowing just what LBJ's role in civil rights meant in terms of the Democratic Party losing the entire South for a generation, I was repulsed and disgusted that ANYONE would make such a stupid accusation.

Posted by: StatBabe | June 4, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Obama4Hillary:
Ok my Obamabot followers. Thank you for your admiration and worship, but I need for you to really listen to my words. Tonight, I said: "Our Party and our country are better off because of Hillary Clinton" and I meant that. So I want you to quit insulting and disrepecting Senator Hillary Clinton. If you want Clinton supporters to quit attacking me, you are going to need to set a better example than your continuous attacks of Senator Clinton. Such actions show how hypocritical my Obamabots are. You don't want to be hypocrites now do you?
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Wait a minute - did you just ask other people to quit insulting someone while simultaneously insulting them????

This election has brought out absolutely the most irrational in people.

Posted by: karenita1 | June 4, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Thank God i'm not the only one who noticed she still has yet to be happy for Obama.
Hillary: me, me, me, I, my, more of me, me, and more me

She's so pitiful.

Posted by: Fed up | June 4, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

this is what Barack should tell Hillary at the private meeting, TO GET LOST!!!!!!!

Posted by: e. butler | June 4, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

She is full of herself. Obbama does not need her to win. Talk about self-centered. I heard one of the analysis on FoxNews say she shoud be the VP. That right there tells me she SHOULD NOT be the VP! Fox is not looking out for Obama's best interest.

Posted by: Denise Groves | June 4, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Even in defeat and on such a historic night she couldn't congratulate Obama. It's still all about her! She has no class, and tonight I was going to be nice and give her the benefit of the doubt, well sorry folks but she's not even Janitorial material for the WH.
Congratulation Senator Obama, you deserve this your campaign deserves this and your family and supporters! Take your moment and then go fight the good fight against McCain! As for Hillary WHO CARES!

Posted by: Sue f | June 4, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Hillary capitalizes on people's prejudices. If your racist, you're her white working class vote....if your a woman, you're with her on women moving up in the ranks.....if you're middle class, you need to help US save the middle class, etc, etc. But in the end, it's all about HILLARY!

Please give me a break.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Jeffrey Toobin said it succinctly on CNN. She is a deluded narcissist.

Posted by: Catherine S | June 3, 2008 11:52 PM

I missed it! I was watching MSNBC. What did Toobin say about her?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama4Hillary===i have no idea what to think of Hillary. She says one thing and does another or says one thing and then says the opposite. Tonight Howard Fineman of Newsweek reported that Clinton said ask me to be VP and I promise I'll refuse, but don't you dare ask another woman. Does she mean that if she can win, she doesn't want any other woman to achieve success.Now I thought this was somebody who wanted women to rise up through the channels. What kind of message is that. Personally and truly, not as a n insult , but she acts bipolar. I think the strain of the campaign has gotten to her.

Posted by: LetthemdrinkCrownRoyal | June 3, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

After Hillary's shamefully narcissistic speech tonight, there is NO WAY that Barack should ask her to be VP. She didn't even have the manners to cite what an historic moment this night was for African-Americans.

Does she think that she can strong-arm Obama into asking her?

Obama should stay far, far away from Hillary. Jeffrey Toobin said it succinctly on CNN. She is a deluded narcissist.

Posted by: Catherine S | June 3, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting how Barack Obama is trying to change the subject from the fact that HE HAS ONLY BEEN TO IRAQ ONCE 877 DAYS AGO by telling McCain to visit sights within the US that he has already visited. So much for his foreign policy experience which is non-existent.

I guess Barack Obama doesn't like the fact that John McCain's right about him only going to Iraq once and hasn't been there recently and thus hasn't seen for himself how things are going in Iraq. Sounds like he's a little on the defensive side on that particular point.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Obama would be wise to offer the VP to Hillary. He would bring many if not most of Hillary's supporters into the fold in order to heal and unite the party. He would also combine change with experience. There's nothing wrong with having change and experience. Many people have a problem with the fact that Obama doesn't have much experience and Hillary would balance that with the experience she has. If she were on the ticket, I would have second thoughts about voting for McCain. Unfortunately, I do not foresee Obama offering the VP to Clinton which is why I have been talking about voting for McCain while voting for Democrats for Congress.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY VP - BIG MISTAKE!

Hillary would be second-guessing Obama every step of the way while pushing her own agendas and Bubba would be fighting for the lime-light in between chasing interns around the Whitehouse grounds!

Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!

http://klintons.com

Posted by: Bob | June 3, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Ok my Obamabot followers. Thank you for your admiration and worship, but I need for you to really listen to my words. Tonight, I said: "Our Party and our country are better off because of Hillary Clinton" and I meant that. So I want you to quit insulting and disrepecting Senator Hillary Clinton. If you want Clinton supporters to quit attacking me, you are going to need to set a better example than your continuous attacks of Senator Clinton. Such actions show how hypocritical my Obamabots are. You don't want to be hypocrites now do you?

Posted by: Obama4Hillary | June 3, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

MCBUSH. I love the war. Please Hillary supports give me your babies...BZZZZZ. Please give me your husbands...BZZZZZ.
Do you have any daughters??????BZZZZZ.
Any sons...BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

A vote for McBush is a vote for death.

"My freinds I hate to tell you there's going to be other wars"

I don't care if iraq lasts 100 years...

This is John McCain.

Posted by: MCBUSH | June 3, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Guys,
Let's forget discussing Hillary and focus on the historic event we saw tonight and the fact that we are gonna kick McCain's a** in Nov. The focus needs to be on John McCain right now. Let Hillary's supporters have their time to grieve. Remember the pain and disappointment of John Kerry losing. I sure do. They will have to reconcile themselves in their own time and may say hurtful things about Obama but let's follow his lead and stay above it and out of their way as they come to terms with it all. Senator Obama was very kind and gracious tonight and supportive of Hillary. He respects her supporters. I may get some hateful messages from them but let me say now that I understand your anger but believe Obama will be a good President as well. We want Hillary supporters on board with us and I think in time given what McCain stands for and what Obama has to offer, all of us will come together to witness and old fashioned but whoopin. Democrats '08!

Posted by: wide awake | June 3, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Okay, the truth is out and I lost. I really wanted to win but I didn't. But, I'm a Democrat, I believe in the rule of law at home and aboard, I believe we need to end this war, I believe in national health care, I believe in solving global warming (if we don't in the next 20 years it won't be good), I believe in checks and balances so no part of govenment can rule over all, I believe in a womens right to choose, I beleieve in energy independence, I believe in restoring the country to a better place....and so does by DEMOCRATIC opponent....someone had to loss and that's just the way it goes. But to throw out all that we stand together on, so that we can have 4 more years of MCBUSH- MAKES NO SENSE!

Posted by: Hillary for OBAMA | June 3, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Fed up -

One final thing. The fact that you couldn't prove me wrong about Hillary Clinton's "assassination" comments proves that it is you who is misinformed. Perhaps you should read the news more thoroughly before spouting off falsehoods about Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

One final thing. The fact that you couldn't prove me wrong about Hillary Clinton's "assassination" comments proves that it is you who is misinformed. Perhaps you should read the news more thoroughly before spouting off falsehoods about Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS RUN A PRIMARY IS LIKE
LIKE PLAYING FANTASY FOOTBALL. PROPORTION-
AL DELEGATES, SUPERDELEGATES, ADDITIONAL
DELEGATES. IN DECEMBER IT IS WINNER TAKE
ALL IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!!!

CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK, PENN., OHIO, MICHIGAN
FLORIDA, TEXAS DECLARE THE WINNER. WHO WON
THEM IN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY????

ASSIGNING HALF VOTES IS LIKE COUNTING BLACK
PEOPLE FOR THE CENSUS IN OUR ORIGINAL
CONSTITUTION. BLACKS MAKE UP A SUBSTANTIAL
NUMBER OF VOTERS IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA.
THE RULES COMMITTEE JUST SET BACK THE
COUNTRY 220 YEARS.

WHAT A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS FOR THE PARTY
OF TRUMAN AND J.F.K.

Posted by: TOLEDODON | June 3, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow, using the cut and paste feature to keep spamming repeat comments is hilarious.

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Fed up -

So is Obama a LIAR? If not, then why do you and your fellow Obamabots not believe in Obama's words from his speech this evening below?

Obama: "OUR PARTY AND OUR COUNTRY ARE BETTER OFF BECAUSE OF HILLARY CLINTON." (Emphasis added)

Too bad Obamabots do not listen to their leader. I wonder if Obamabots know that Obama is lying and as a result, we Clinton supporters should not believe in what he says.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Amen Dayrunner!

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hello!,

Do you honestly think a Republican would advise people to vote for Democratic candidates running for Congress? Do you think a Republican would believe that the Democrats will get their filibuster-proof majority in Congress?

Do you think a Republican would donate $250 to Senator Jim Webb's campaign before he wont his Senate seat in Virginia? Do you think a Republican would donate $250 to Senator Ben Cardin's senate campaign before he won his seat? Do you think a Republican would donate money to Hillary Clinton's campaign? If you believe that, then I have some swamp land in Florida I would like to sell you.

And if you want to push me into donating to the McCain campaign keep it up... Be warned. The more you anger Clinton supporters, the more you will push us into the McCain camp and the more you will motiviate us into donating money to him. You want to do that? If so, bring it on.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Look here lost in fake truth, no one here supports anything you're saying. All you're doing is touting Obama hate and screaming you will vote republican. Please go ahead and do so, but you are well beyond petty. Obama doesn't and won't open a VP slot for Hitlery and nor should he. If you Mrs. Hillary supporter and supposed democrat can't accept that, don't. It's not hurting anyone. You're only showing how trifling you are and how you're a sore loser. Your petty candidate lost, now you petty supporters are miserable too. Boo hoo. Let it go. She's not going to be President, nor VP, and she'll be lucky if she keeps her Congress seat. What will you all do then, commit mass suicide. Please do us all a favor and grow up and stop spamming boards to try to force someone to agree with your miserable, ridiculous point of view.

I'm done responding to someone so closed minded.

You have a nice day!

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

fedup - Your YouTube link proves my point. She never said that she was going to assassinate Obama. She brought up the RFK assassination to suggest that anything could happen. You really need to come up with something more if she actually said that SHE WOULD ASSASSINATE Obama. Yes, she used the word "assassinate," but she never said that SHE would assassinate Obama or that she wanted him assassinate. The fact that you would suggest such a thing is dishonest of you. I stand by previous statement until you can actually prove me wrong. Still waiting.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

MSGH,

What you are overlooking is that I (and most if not all other Clinton supporters) believe that so long as we vote for Democrats in Congress, it won't matter if McCain is president because he will not have the kind of power that Bush had when the Republican rubber-stamp Congress allowed him to run rought-shod over the Constitution.

So voting for McCain won't really be that bad because the Democratic-controlled Congress will be able to override every veto and vote down every right-wing wackjob Supreme Court nomination. However, if our votes put McCain in the White House, it will be a strong form of punishment to the DNC RBC, the Democratic elite, the MSM, and the Obamabots that have all treated Hillary Clinton and her supporters badly and unfairly.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

RE:
RE:
Clinton's Road to Second Place
Staffers Say Message,
Caucus Plan Backfired;
When Bill 'Lost It'
By JACKIE CALMES
June 4, 2008
----------------------------
DEDICATION

I dedicate this book entitled "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT!" to the FORMER President Bill Clinton, to his wife Hillary and their daughter Chelsea. Leadership is the trade-mark of both the President and his whole family at the dawn of the twenty-first century.
The immediate goal of this book is to make the leaders and peoples of the West aware of their grave responsibilities in connection with Haiti's current tragic situation. For this reason, it recalls the dominant relationship the West has had with the Black World.
-------------------------------------------------------------

LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Montreal, February 20, 2008

SENATOR OBAMA ,

The whole world has its eyes on you, on The United States Of America and its people.

Everyone expects you to be democratically elected and see that something happen in America.

In March 1983, one of humanity's most famous spokesmen, Pope John Paul II, came to our country - 'Haîti' - and loudly proclaimed what each and every one of us had been whispering:

'Something must change here.'

Today, more than ever, a lot of people of The United States of America stand up, longing for something and working to make something happen.

And, like in March 9, 1983, beloved Haiti, History - (which from then and now on rests in thy hands) - tells thee: "it is now time to let people speak to thee of love!', let's say today': 'Go thou America ahead and show us thy true countenance in a positive light.' It is up to everyone to play his or her part in order to let thee regain thy mark of excellence !"

With this letter, I am communicating with You, Senator Obama, and with the whole people of The United States of America.

You offer this country what it takes to be a 'Wonderfull Land.' Yes, let us say 'with a great people living together.'

Go thou, America, go ahead, following in the footsteps of one of thy sons who is now becoming one of thy statesmen.

With this in mind, Mr.Obama, to whom else could I entrust this letter sent to his Holiness Pope John Paul II when he set foot on Haitian soil for the first time, as well as its acknowledgment by the Vatican?

That letter to Pope John Paul II is intended to draw attention to the problem posed by anti-Black discrimination and its negative repercussions on the advancement of scientific progress in the West, and more precisely in the realm of Optics.

In the Western world, according to Newton's widely accepted theory, white is considered to be the synthesis of all colors. Actually, the opposite is true. White constitutes the analysis or 'visible' decoding of light or color, whereas black is its synthesis or 'invisible' composition.

In other words, darkness or blackness and, we might add, "Black Holes'"- a scientific misnomer designating invisible stars or 'Black Suns' - are a source of energy and light.

That basic raw material of light energy culminates, in its most radiant form, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of so-called "white light."

Therefore "absolute blackness", the absorption of all the colors, is a divisible component of light. Needless to say, Newton's theory gives only a partial interpretation of the notion of light, by excluding black. Our contribution aims at demonstrating that the black color is not only an integral part of the color process, but its true synthesis. Light is therefore shown to be a divisible whole comprising an intensity or color scale in which black is the invisible or 'absorbed' form of the energy in question.

Allow me, Senator Obama, in order to support my statement concerning Black Holes and radiation, to pose a question asked by Hubert Reeves, Doctor of nuclear astrophysics and Scientific Consultant to NASA:

"What would have become of the Sun, if it were plunged into a high temperature radiance like the one that existed at the beginning of the Universe? [our translation]"

"Instead of emitting light, it would absorb it and, in the end, it would be completely reabsorbed into the cosmic fluid."

The cosmic fluid is what, due to an "optical mistake", is called "darkness" or the "blackness of space". We are talking about the electromagnetic flux, that immeasurable ocean in which the planets and stars are bathed, like the sea which links all the continents together. Darkness is thus "The Sea of Space."

"What would have happened if, instead of an ordinary star like the "White Sun", a Black Hole or "Black Sun" were injected into that primordial radiation?

"According to Einsteinian Physics, a Black Hole is a place where gravity is so formidably intense that nothing can escape it, not even visible light. Such a hole should suck in and absorb radiation and increase its own mass: E=MC2, always."

"But after Einstein came Bohr, Heisenberg, and Quantum Physic. From then on, nothing was the same as before.

"The Einsteinian version of the Black Hole is equivalent to a statement that the matter inside the Black Hole is definitely there to stay, in that volume of space. Let us quote Hubert Reeves: "Such an absolute statement is thus contrary to the "Quantum spirit", affirming that nothing is definitely localized in one place. There is always a probability of escape. If the enclosing wall is too high, a tunnel will be dug; if the prisoners are patient, they will escape. One has only to wait. [our translation]"

"According to that principle, Black Holes "evaporate." Matter constantly escapes as radiation. Black Holes "shine!" Their surfaces behave like those of any body heated to a certain temperature and that radiation endlessly feeds that marvelous "Cosmic Fluid" which, wrongly and in bad faith, people keep calling "Darkness."

Nigra sum "sed" formosa. Yes, but should we not say instead, I am black "and" comely? Darkness, which is both source and vehicle of light, does not have to defend itself for being the beautiful and infinitely discreet raw material of the Universe. Darkness is the "Mother of the Universe."

Also, beautiful and discreet art thou, Haiti. Discreet, yes, but never outshone! Just like the Black Virgin who inspires and sheds her love on thee from the hilltop and even beyond Cité Soleil (Sun City).

Our purpose was to offer a more constructive approach aiming at correcting the abusive traditional, so-called scientific, theories of Optics. That is why, we wrote to that authentic witness to the signs of this age, His Holiness Pope John Paul II, the prophet of the new era.

Congratulations to You, Sir, and congratulations to the people of The United States Of America, for having made it possible for this day to mark the beginning of a "New Era of Hope !"

Lucien Bonnet

PLease, SEE :
LETTER TO POPE JOHN-PAUL II
in 'BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca

PLEASE SEE:
"Bill A Ri And There Was Light!"

The author
of this book

Lucien Bonnet
LAVAL (QUÉBEC) CANADA

Posted by: Lucien BONNET | June 3, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

When- Sen. Clinton decided to take money from Rupert Murdock then said - FOX NEWS was the most fair and balanced...I vomited. When she supported the war..and took $$$$$$ from all the DEFENSE contractors..I buried my head. When she voted with Sen. Lieberman (Mr Republican shill) for a bunch of insane senate resolutions...I said who is this person?? When she mentioned she was friend to a religious organization called the FAMILY...I looked them up..and..well had a MELT DOWN! When she talked about Sen. Obama as have nothing but a speech and said he wasn't commander and chief material...I said..in all my years, never as 1 Democrat done that to another! When, she said white people are voting for her and not Obama...I being white FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR! When she said she was against trade agreements like Nafta and Cafta and definately opposed the Columbia trade agreement (an agreement that would ship more jobs out of this country) I looked at the people around her and thought- why is she surrounded by folks that love out sourcing U.S jobs? Her husband signed Nafta/Cafta and was a major supporter FOR the COLUMBIA free trade deal- as was her Campaign manager (who was a lobbiest for that very deal)...my head spun. When she accused Sen. Obama of making remakes made to someone in Canada in support of Nafta...and then it turned out it was her who said -well I really support Nafta so don't pay any attention to our campaign talk-...well I hit the roof. When she called Mr Obama an elitest and than released her tax return -stating over $100 million in income---I said wow how did her and Bill earn all that??????...When I learned the the Saudi's were helping to pay for his library (but wouldn't disclose by how much)..I through up my hands and said ENOUGH...I could go on and on and on and on...But, I learned Clinton voters AREN'T interested in facts or info they JUST WANT HILLARYYYYY- WAKE UP- THE WOMEN ISN'T who you think she is...it's not your fault I wanted her to be this other person too but she's not.

Posted by: Dayrunner | June 3, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

what about edwards now?

Posted by: changing | June 3, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

fedup - Your YouTube link proves my point. She never said that she was going to assassinate Obama. She brought up the RFK assassination to suggest that anything could happen. You really need to come up with something more if she actually said that SHE WOULD ASSASSINATE Obama. Yes, she used the word "assassinate," but she never said that SHE would assassinate Obama or that she wanted him assassinate. The fact that you would suggest such a thing is dishonest of you. I stand by previous statement until you can actually prove me wrong. Still waiting.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

The saddest thing about the Clinton supporters who intend to vote for McCain is that by doing so, they will vote against everything Clinton stands for. Some say they will vote Democratic for Congress but McCain for President. By doing so, they will nullify their votes: if McCain wins, a Democratic Congress will be facing another imperial president who will block their best efforts to do what is best for the US and the world. I admire everything Clinton stands for--health care, an end to the war, improved education, help for the beleaguered middle and lower classes facing the end of their homes, their jobs, and their hopes--that's why I will vote for Obama, and that's why I hope Clinton's supporters will do so, too, instead of throwing mud and rocks at her ideals by voting for McCain.

Posted by: MSGH | June 3, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Hello!,

Do you honestly think a Republican would advise people to vote for Democratic candidates running for Congress? Do you think a Republican would believe that the Democrats will get their filibuster-proof majority in Congress?

Do you think a Republican would donate $250 to Senator Jim Webb's campaign before he wont his Senate seat in Virginia? Do you think a Republican would donate $250 to Senator Ben Cardin's senate campaign before he won his seat? Do you think a Republican would donate money to Hillary Clinton's campaign? If you believe that, then I have some swamp land in Florida I would like to sell you.

And if you want to push me into donating to the McCain campaign keep it up... Be warned. The more you anger Clinton supporters, the more you will push us into the McCain camp and the more you will motiviate us into donating money to him. You want to do that? If so, bring it on.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Republican win in '08 as Obama just cannot do it.
Posted by: Robert NYC | June 3, 2008 10:21 PM

A fellow New Yorker who is a Republican and HE's talking about creative ways to lose? Dude, the joke's on you! You live in the wrong city.

And if you're prediciting this election, I wouldn't say that anything is a lock. Americans do not want 100 more years in Iraq. No way. No how. Fewer than 30% of Americans want us there longer than any short-term withdrawal period. 100 years?

I wouldn't start counting your chickens...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Most of you folks are rather obviously NOT Democrats! As a Democrat, I will say firmly that we were blessed with a wonderful group of contenders this season.
Both Obama and Clinton will be/would have been excellent candidates to run against McCain. Both would make excellent as well as historic presidents. Even an old yellow dog, however, could beat McCain and his warmongering. Keep your eye on the ball, Democrats.

Posted by: Jimbo | June 3, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Insearchoftruth----you need to keep searching cause obviously you are completely lost! Don't you ever call me a liar. If you have been keeping up with the presidential race, as you try to portray yourself as knowing what you are talking about and obviously you have nary a clue, then you would know what I was referring to. I suggest you google the topic and catch up before you try to slam someone on something you know little about.

Since you're too busy pouting cause Hitlery lost and/or too lazy to research before you open your pie hole, I've provided you a link to further understand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshouGMwvVg.

Next time, please refrain from the petty name calling and behave as an adult, but then again you support Hitlery...........nevermind.

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

ProfitGanda - I've already the book. My belief is that Hillary offers change too from the Bush policies. Even McCain will over some change from the Bush policies as well though not as much as what Hillary Clinton would offer.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Is anybody paying attention here? Read the so-called Hillary supporter arguments. It is obvious that most, if not all, are Republicans pretending to be Democrats. Someone noted the first tactic of the RNC is to claim the Democrats will weaken the military. What does "In Search Of Truth" [hahaha]" say: "I heard Obama will weaken the military." Don't waste your breath responding to these Republican trolls, or at least relating to them as truly disillusioned Democrats. And if by chance there are any women who supported Hillary who are so mad they will vote for McCain, well that just proves the suspicion of many that old-line feminists are anti-progressive.

Posted by: Hello! | June 3, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

So is Obama a LIAR? If not, then why do Obamabots not believe in Obama's words from his speech this evening below?

Obama: "Our Party and our country are better off because of Hillary Clinton"

Too bad Obamabots do not listen to their leader. I wonder if Obamabots know that Obama is lying and that we should not believe what he says.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

To all of you whining and change fearing people, face it, change is coming.

I would recommend that you read "Who Moved my Cheese" in order to prepare.

Posted by: ProfitGanda | June 3, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone thought about what Barack a' by baby is going to do if the video of Mrs. Obama appearing on a panel with radical speakers during which she makes more controversial statements surfaces? Do you think he will divorce her? He seems willing to throw anything that is politically inconvenient to the side.

Posted by: reason | June 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Fed up - You are a liar. Hillary never said anything about assassinating Obama. She said she was staying in the race because anything could happen. She said her husband didn't win the nomination until June of that year and that Bobby Kennedy had been assassinated. She was insinuating that anything could happen. She did not say that was going to assassinate Obama or that she wished or wanted it. The fact that you insinuate such a thing is a despicable and an outright lie.

If you have evidence proving that Hillary said she was going to assassinate Obama, I suggest you provide it cease spouting the lies and falsehoods you express on here.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

InSearchOfTruth. Right. Delusional. Obama *will* win without you and your fellow Screaming Woman votes. And I say that not knowing if you are a woman or a man. Have a good evening...

Posted by: Vote 4 McCainHillaryIdiots | June 3, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Obama could do more stupid then having Clinton for V.P. would be to play Russian Roulette with an Automatic.

Posted by: John C. Page III | June 3, 2008 9:25 PM

In my opinion, the Russian Roulette would actually give him greater odds. But he knows this. He'll have to offer her something big--Supreme Court or a Cabinet post--but not VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

All of you supporting Hillary and bitter that she lost are bipolar. You all continue to slander Obama, yet would be satisfied if he offered Hitlery the VP slot. You all miraculously seem to overlook all the slander that woman has done to him. You can't be serious to think he would offer her the VP slot. I am literally laughing at you all because there is no way on earth Hitlery would play second to a man she has belittled for months. She already made mention of assassinating the man. If she were in the VP slot she would definitely follow through on her threat just so she could have the top slot.

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama: "Our Party and our country are better off because of Hillary Clinton"

Too bad Obamabots do not listen to their leader. I wonder if Obamabots know that Obama is lying and that we should not believe what he says.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting how Barack Obama is trying to change the subject from the fact that he has only been to Iraq ONCE over 877 days ago by telling McCain to visit sights within the US that he has already visited.

I guess Barack Obama doesn't like the fact that John McCain's right about him only going to Iraq once and hasn't been there recently and thus hasn't seen for himself how things are going in Iraq. Sounds like he's a little on the defensive side on that particular point.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm still amazed at how many delusional racist exist in the US. May you get ALL that you deserve.....from McCain & Hillary..

Posted by: Carla | June 3, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

x

Posted by: ioi | June 3, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

The headline for that article was deceitful. It implied that the Obama campaign was dismissive of the idea, when they were merely dismissive of talking about it to the media at this time.

Posted by: mlk | June 3, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Are some of you fresh out of high school, cause if you have ever listened to the "spin" of an election cycle, the first thing the RNC does as the nominee for the DNC is apparent, is start talking about that person weakining the military, cutting back on defense, spending less on weapons etc. etc. etc....same crap they drop every cycle for the 30 years ive been observant.Whats funny is the real military blight has come frome those who claim to support it,, Bush and Co. have subbed out so much work to all sorts of Non-American companys, its sickening..Billions have been spent.Gone, in someoneelses bank , not helping or aiding our economy in the states in any way, and its gone.Doesnt matter if we have a receipt, its spent,and will cost as much to fight to get re-payment for poor services or manipulated billing its again,. sickening..
Think about it like this,,, whats been spent in this war(including Afganistan)if divided between all working ,tax paying Americans, even just half of it,, we would all be millionares, not just a million, multiple millions to every man and woman who is paying taxes through this war..Think about that when you decide to protest by voting for Mccant, Mc wont, Mcstay the course..

Posted by: Bill | June 3, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Obama would be wise to offer the VP to Hillary. He would bring many if not most of Hillary's supporters into the fold in order to heal and unite the party. He would also combine change with experience. There's nothing wrong with having change and experience. Many people have a problem with the fact that Obama doesn't have much experience and Hillary would balance that with the experience she has. If she were on the ticket, I would have second thoughts about voting for McCain. Unfortunately, I do not foresee Obama offering the VP to Clinton which is why I have been talking about voting for McCain while voting for Democrats for Congress.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I am now listening to Barack Obama as he accepts the nomination, congratulating Hillary Clinton for the race she ran. Funny, Hillary spoke first and never mentioned that she had lost to Obama, or congratulated him on his victory. Now she's trying to muscle her way into the VP slot. The chutzpah of the Clintons is unbelievable, and hopefully at an end. Please Obama, don't put her on your ticket - we need a new direction AWAY from the policies of Hillary and the past. You are the future; she will only drag you down (now to mention you would need to hire a food taster and lock up your dog.)

Posted by: Indiana | June 3, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

The only way I would ever vote for that empty suit full of hot air is if Hillary is the VP candidate. Otherwise, it's McCain for president and Democrats for the House & Senate. Obama is nothing more than a big gasbag, just like the men currently running the show.

Nobama is already courting Clinton's donors. What, he doesn't want her, just her money? How cheap, how tacky.

And never one more dime for the DNC. It doesn't like women, so it obviously doesn't need or want my money.

Posted by: slavicdiva | June 3, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Hill wont play number 2.

Obama's wife wont let her.

Republican win in '08 as Obama just cannot do it. Takes more than a future press secretary that can make speaches to win a Presidential election.

ha ha - too bad liberals. You all found another creative way to lose!

How are you all going to blow it in 2012?

Posted by: Robert NYC | June 3, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

It's amusing to see Obama supporters put Hillary down here. Apparently they don't realize that the more they attack Hillary, the more they anger Hillary's supporters whom Obama needs to win. I guess Obama's supporters don't care if Obama wins which is why they continue to denigrate and attack Hillary Clinton.

You should listen to your leader - even Barack Obama says that Hillary has done a great deal of good and has praised her for it. Are you saying he's lying about that too? Should I not trust his words?

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

gbooksdc,

Apparently you overlooked the fact that I would re-think my position if he were to ask Hillary Clinton to be his VP. However, it is my belief he won't ask her. Perhaps I am wrong and he might surprise me. But until that time, I will continue to have my current beliefs of Barack Obama until he proves me wrong.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Apparently you overlooked the fact that I would re-think my position if he were to ask Hillary Clinton to be his VP. However, it is my belief he won't ask her. Perhaps I am wrong and he might surprise me. But until that time, I will continue to have my current beliefs of Barack Obama until he proves me wrong.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

And one more thing, Hillary is such a sore loser that she would rather destroy the democratic party, which she just about has already, rather than see Obama win. Anyone who supports her because she's a woman and/or is white is pathetic. She has done just about everything but called Obama the N word.

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

and really, i think most supporters of and including Obama hisself have avoided any derrogatory exchanges about , to , or with Hillary more than any run ive ever seen. It may seem like were slinging mud,, its just the splatter of all the S H i T
H-rod and her team have been tossing out

Posted by: bill | June 3, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

You want to see what a great leader Hillary is? Just notice how her constituency thinks. She ran such a campaign that now her supports prefer to stay at home in November or vote McCain. That's what you expect from a Democrat? Or even a politician in general? How one could think a person that can be so divisive could be the nominee? She ran such a negative campaign that her illusioned supporters prefer a Republican in the White House than Obama. Now that she's out she has offered to be the VP. Make up your mind Hillary. Is he the evil that you tried to depict or a nominee that you could run as his running mate? A person so thirsty of power is really dangerous. Good riddance. I'm glad she's out.

Posted by: Cyrus | June 3, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "I can't imagine Hillary Clinton endorsing McCain!"

Really?? She all but has endorsed him during her failed campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

RealChoces, The fact that you denigrate Hillary at all tells a lot about yourself. You say you have problems with her because she is dishonest, but what about I and Hillary supporters whom have problems with Obama because he's dishonest. He has lied about not knowing how Reverend Jeremiah preaches. He has lied about saying he has never heard or attended any of Jeremiah's divisive sermons.

Who "mispeaks" about never hearing his pastor preach such divisive and racist sermons?

Yes, her idea about cutting the gas tax may not be the best, but she wanted to offer immediate, if only temporary, relief to people at the gas pump. But Obama has some really bad policy ideas as well. It is my understanding that Obama has changed his tax policy in that he intends to increase taxes for those families that make over $100,000 a year compared to $250,000 a year. If this is true, let me just say that that is a bad idea in that $100,000 ($50,000 per person is middle class) is not a lot in many areas of the country. I thought he was only going to increase the taxes of those whom made more than $250,000. If he changes that, then that means he has lied to the American people.

In addition to that, it is my understanding that Obama wants to weaken our military which I think is a bad idea as well. Sure, it is ok to lessen the money so that it isn't spent on the likes of Halliburton or Blackwater. However, if Obama weakens our military this very bad in light of what happened on 9/11 and knowing how there are those, like Osama bin Laden, that want to kill us.

Finally, Obama's proposal of giving more power to the United Nations weakening Congress by taking away its power of the purse with regards to how much money the US is to pay to the UN via the The Poverty Act. Paying more money to help end poverty is a good thing, however, the desire to enact law which would allow the UN to dictate to us how much money we pay to them to be used to end poverty is very bad and displays a complete lack of leadership. The last thing we need is for Obama to tax the middle class more, weaken our military, and sponsor legislation that would allow the UN to dictate to the US how much money to pay in aid.

I believe Hillary has demonstrated that she would be a good President or Vice-President based on her centrism and her experience. More importantly, over 18 million people believe the same way as I do.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Insearch of truth

are you out of your mind????
I really am sorry you are so sore about H-rod loosing,, and Barack might have mis-spoke as often as she did,, but you put it right in your comment ,the real truth is Hillary would get walked all over by McCant,without question..30 years of dirt gets pretty easy to spin when you've been down the roads she's traveled. Shes a great candidate, a intelligent Senator who knows the system very well, but she just would not hold up to a barrage of swiftboat maneuvers the repubs had in store for her..
Barack is not flawless, and will be tested, but to say you are protesting by voting to prolong the insanity that has ruined this country's reputation, that has alienated every " working class" American from his neighbor, how can you even think you're being pro-active by spewing the same evil that Bush and company have for the last eight years???
Ironically, i hope you do vote for McCant, so when he is not voted into the white house, you can stew on your wasted vote for 4 years, or wash your hands with more US soldiers blood from a unlikely win by McCainey.
A woman will make it to the whitehouse, and it will be in this era, but Hillary was not that woman, not by a long shot. And most of us know it.Look up some history on H-rods working career, keeping in mind her only political career came as a spouse of a man she could not control, but allowed his poor behavior to dictate their lives together,,is that real leadership, or passivism at its best??

Posted by: Bill | June 3, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has talked bad about Obama since the race began. She has lied her way through her entire campaign. She has even talked us to death about his pastor. It's funny how none of you who support her have spoken about her pastor who is a known sexual predator. It seems to me that the people who are willing to support McCain instead of Obama are racist themselves and sore losers. It's a sad, pathetic thing to see people say they love their country and their democratic party, but would rather vote for a republican who is going to continue the things which are destroying our country and our economy. But then again, no wonder you all support Hillary. And it's funny how everyone keeps harping on Obama's pastor as racist, but a white pastor said the same thing, which was exactly the truth by the way, but I don't see anyone speaking on him. Some of you need to be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: Fed up | June 3, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Are the Hillary Clinton supporters really behind her? If they are, then they will support Barack Obama when she does. I can't imagine Hillary Clinton endorsing McCain!

Posted by: TruthIsGold | June 3, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

All that matters is we get the regressing party out of the white house this time around. If McCain wins the election I wouldn't be surprised if the North tried to cecede from the South, and let the idiots run the south and let the Dems run the north.

Posted by: RepublicansRTools | June 3, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Its amusing to me that having heard Hillary say over and over she will be ready day one if elected, but a day after the primaries end she seems indecisive about what she will do next.

Posted by: stumpywest | June 3, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

As an outside observer, an Australian who - like every other person on the planet - has a vested interest in America's next president, the combination of Obama and Clinton would not only signal a change in direction of US foreign policy, but would also confirm the progressiveness of a nation that has recently appeared trapped in a neolithic time-warp. It would also embed in the minds of all US critics a sense of hope as past years have seemed more than hopeless.
With the US economy sinking like a stone, and with an endless and fruitless "war on terror" draining the will of everyone concerned, any change has got to be for the better. As a wise man once said "politicians are like diapers, they need changing regularly, and for the exact same reason."
With two major "minorities" represented on the Democrat ticket, the affirmation of full representative government would sing in the minds of the majority.

Posted by: William Jorgensen | June 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Europ has watched, and you made it, guys!
The first black nominee for president of US, europ has still a lot to learn from you in race and leadership.

Posted by: Kriskros for OBAMA | June 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

It's amusing to see Obama supporters put Hillary down here. Apparently they don't realize that the more they attack Hillary, the more they anger Hillary's supporters whom Obama needs to win. I guess Obama's supporters don't care if Obama wins which is why they continue to denigrate and attack Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 9:41 PM
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Meanwhile, Hillary's supporters continue to denigrate and attack Barack Obama. Look, Obama won what he sought. Hillary needs to prove she is suitable for a place on the ticket. Your whining and threats only highlight the fact that she has nothing to offer because she cannot bring her own supporters to the ticket.

For all your whining, Obama will be the nominee. He may win, he may not, but Clinton certainly will not. Her only chance of participating in the Inaugural next January is to be accepted as Obama's running mate, and as long as her supporters attack the nominee and make it clear they'll oppose him no matter what, she won't be asked.

Posted by: gbooksdc | June 3, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Right, make the woman that wants him dead VP. If he was serious about anything he said during the campaign he will leave the drama queen and her entourage to go back the the Senate. The country no longer needs the distractions.

Posted by: Perplexed | June 3, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand Why Obama gets a free pass every time one of his associates turns out to be a hate spewing demagoge. Could someone explain this. Why is alright for preachers in a "black church context" to say hateful things we would imagine coming out of Osama's mouth? I certainly (as a republican too) not approve of Jerry Fawell's disgusting accusation toward Gays and Lesbians about 9/11 and as such i will hold it against people who make the similar claims regardless of their race (thats called "not being a racist, Same standard) Obama has run on a platform of style over substance. Why do Democrats assume if a Democratic politician promises good things to come they automatically trust him?

Posted by: Don | June 3, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I think a custodian/janitor I know could handle being the President of the US. He is smart, knows what he doesn't know and would put on board the people who did know what needed to be known and would depend on many counselors who would give him good advice. So Obama could be a good President though he is totally inexperienced with executive functions if he appoints wise people. However, I doubt he will do so and because of his ideology will appoint people who will bolster his weaknesses resulting in a terrific Jimmy Carter type blooper of a presidency and Hillary Clinton would be better off waiting for a couple of years into the Obama mess to throw her hat back into the ring. But we will see.

Posted by: knightforhire.com | June 3, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama should choose someone with whom he agrees, such as Rev Wrong, Father Pfreak, or Mich that rhymes with .....(don't mean rich)

Posted by: BarackIsStillWetBehindTheEars | June 3, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama should choose someone with whom he agrees, such as Rev Wrong, Father Pfreak, or Mich that rhymes with .....(don't mean rich)

Posted by: BarackIsStillWetBehindTheEars | June 3, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Hillary VEEP? Not going to happen no worries maybe she will become a supreme court justice or in charge of health and human services.

Fellow Obamanots relax the stake has been driven through her candidacy June 3rd and that is a solid four days before David Plouffe predicted when I met with him at an event in Miami two months ago. It is painful to watch this b.s. happen around us.

Stay focused on the big prize and get ready to rumble with John Mc War and his hit men. They will be coming at us with all sorts of other lies to make us fear Barack Obama being our President.

You know what to expect:
Barack is too young
Barack is a Muslim
Barack will surrender to terrorists
We wont be safe America
Life begins at inception
We know the economy better than Barack
he will talk to bad guys

Blah Blah Blah. they will put up as many boogeymen as Hillary put up lies.

Barack Obama scares the hell out of the status quo because it is their power that will be usurped and ours as the people will be restored. Thank god he has assembled he best political campaign team in the history of our country. Plouffe, Axelrod and the 1.7 million of us out there pounding the pavement and making the calls for change are unstoppable. Rest you won the first battle against the biggest name in politics and we will need the energy between now and November.

God Bless you and God bless the United States of America the only country where all this could happen. We are truly the people we have been waiting for.

Posted by: RAUL PEDRAZA | June 3, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

You people calling Obama black racist. Stop using the church to stomp on Obama. You didn't like the idea of a black man in the white in the beginning. Hillary lost so deal with it. How many rules do we have to change to satisfy her and people like you? Now you're saying you not going to vote for Obama because of the church. What about the racist things the Clinton's said? Man, you kill me! All those who saying stuff like that are racist. Do you want Obama to bow down to your ridiculous ideas. If the shoe was on the other foot, I bet Obama would not make a big deal like the Clinton's. Is people like you all saying this stuff and keep tearing our society apart. Be a MAN and vote for Obama let's show the world that we are together.

Posted by: Real | June 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama for President... nice guy but underqualifed. Obama supporters -mostly very young- do not remember J Carter's years. Nice guys with good intentions do not make good country administrators.
We need experience to get this country back to prosperity, Hillary has what it takes to do it.

Posted by: Adrianna | June 3, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

sorry my last post should have said "employed"

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Posted by: codepro01 | June 3, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

InSearchOfTruth, I don't denigrate Hillary because of anything Obama has said. I have problems with her because she is dishonest. Who the hell "mispeaks" about getting shot at? Her stupid idea to cut the gas tax displayed a complete lack of leadership. The last thing we need is to encourage the public to consume more fossil fuels. Hillary has clearly demonstrated she would be a lousy President or Vice-President. I come to that conclusion on my own, I'm not empoyed by the Obama campaign.

Posted by: RealChoces | June 3, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Obama would be wise to offer the VP to Hillary. He would bring many if not most of Hillary's supporters into the fold in order to heal and unite the party. He would also combine change with experience. There's nothing wrong with having change and experience. Many people have a problem with the fact that Obama doesn't have much experience and Hillary would balance that with the experience she has. If she were on the ticket, I would have second thoughts about voting for McCain. Unfortunately, I do not foresee Obama offering the VP to Clinton which is why I have been talking about voting for McCain while voting for Democrats for Congress.

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Posted by: codepro01 | June 3, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

big mistake to have her anywhere near executive branch power the the office re-interpreted.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 3, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank God they aren't going to be bullied into putting Clinton on the ticket. She isn't seeking the Vice-Presidency, she wants a co-Presidency. She wouldn't be content with the Vice-President's duties, especially if it meant playing fiddle to a man she has said is less qualified.

Of course its nonesense, since Hillary has no experience in the stuff that really matters, national security (domestic issues are fun, but anyone can do them). Obama is clearly lacking in this regard as well and he needs a VP would will bring real experience (as opposed to Hillary's self-declared "experience" such as dodging bullets in Bosnia), that would clearly suggest a pick other than Hillary.

Hillary has decided to make it hard since she has indicated she expects and offer. Obama will have to finesse away to not offer it. It will be his first real test, if he is forced to take Hillary on the ticket, it will not auger well for him as President.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

It's amusing to see Obama supporters put Hillary down here. Apparently they don't realize that the more they attack Hillary, the more they anger Hillary's supporters whom Obama needs to win. I guess Obama's supporters don't care if Obama wins which is why they continue to denigrate and attack Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

If Obama offers Hillary that job, that will nullify all he has been saying throughout the campaign-CHANGE. Obama's "change" won against Hillary's experience campaign. Hillary should chill out and let the man organize this party and hope she won't allienate herself. This change will happen with or without the Clintons. One thing Americans are relieved of is that the names Bush/Clinton will be spoken less in relation to the Whitehouse for a very long time. Offering Hillary the VP will be like voting to authorize going to war with Iraq. Judgememnt time. Nevertheless, congratulations Barack, you the man. You ran the race beautifully and like a good sportsman you didn't want to pile on. You let Hillary win Kentucky, West Virginia and PR knowing it wont make much difference. And then planned ahead to chose MN as where the battle starts. The best defense is offense. Everyone should watch this political race unfolding. Obama is going about it like a game. He will beat John just like he beat Hillary. Barack is John's greatest nightmare in this election. Cheers!!! all you Obama folks. Oprah and those who believed in him early deserve so much credit too.

Posted by: Teddy | June 3, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh Boy!

It's O'Billary!

O' NOOOOooooooooo!!!!!! :-o

Posted by: Rat | June 3, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Hope he doesn't offer it, and/or that she doesn't accept it.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs Hillary. The campaign was very close, and she won her share. There are many disappointed Hillary supporters who will stay home election day. Obama must still overcome the prejudice that is out there and Hillary supporters can make the difference. Bill is still the lovable "bad boy", but Bill generates HOPE wherever he goes. It is time there was a woman helping make the big decisions. Men have made a mess of it. Obama, if you truly are committed to winning the election, grab Hillary. She will "go to the well" with you. She won't let you down.

Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

It's telling sign that Barack Obama is losing in South Dakota when he is the presumptive nominee. It seems that he has a problem every since people began questioning his judgment for attending a racist, black-centric church for 20 years and the fact that he lied about not knowing that Rev. Jeremiah Wright preached that way. Just because Obama has won the nomination doesn't mean he will win the election this November.

I believe the Democrats will get their filibuster-proof majority in Congress in November and intend to help them by voting Democratic for those running for Congress. However, I plan to make my protest vote by voting for McCain to teach the DNC RBC, the Democratic elite, the mainstream media have have been unfair to her or have treated/spoken about her badly. I also want to teach a lesson to those Super Delegates that voted for Obama even though their state voted overwhelmingly for Senator Clinton (e.g. Senator Byrd, Senator Kennedy, etc.).

MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT AND TEACH THE DNC AND ITS RBC A LESSON BY VOTING FOR MCCAIN (AND DEMOCRATS FOR CONGRESS) IN 2008!

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | June 3, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I can honestly say that if Senator Clinton is not on the ticket somewhere, I will probably stay home in November. I find Obama inspiring, but enormously underqualified. I like and admire him a great deal, but I don't have confidence in his ability to do the job.

Posted by: John | June 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse


I would like to see Obama offer the VP slot to Hillary, but Hillary, if she is true to her feminist roots, will decline. She did not run to be VP.

Then, near convention time, Obama should choose Claire McCaskill from Missouri, who would make a fine VP.

Posted by: RoxanneAustin | June 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Obama could do more stupid then having Clinton for V.P. would be to play Russian Roulette with an Automatic.

Posted by: John C. Page III | June 3, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Allow me to Decipher Nimrod-Erps, Oops, meant to say Axelrod! ;~) Really!

Axelrod's Politi-Speak:

...George Soros, Teddy Kennedy, Tommy Daschle, John Kerry, San Fran Nan, and Harry Reid-AKA: "The Puppet's Masters";

DO NOT LIKE THE CLINTONS! :-(

It is OUR Cake, and WE want it ALL!

-HEY! Why does George get such a BIG Slice?!

He PAID for it? Ohhhhhhh, OOOO KAAAAYYYYY! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 3, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Clinton need to stay in race until August.

As Osama's last teflon wears out, there needs to be someone to take the leadership of the Democratic party and bring victory in general election.

General election is election, caucus magic can get the black racist rest of the way

Posted by: Seed of change | June 3, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I think that it would be very nice if Obama offered the VP slot to Clinton. Just think what that would say about his judgement.

And it would be very nice to see the Obamas and the Clintons standing on the same stage with their arms around one another and yelling "Yes we can. All four of us."

Phonies all love one another in the end.

Posted by: zqll | June 3, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Black racist will not win the election.

Another four year of Republican rule will continue.

A sad day for America.

Posted by: Seed of change | June 3, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

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