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Obama Delivers Father's Day Sermon

By Juliet Eilperin
Calling himself "an imperfect father," Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) spoke of the need for African American men to live up to their responsibilities during a Father's Day sermon today.

Saying that too many black fathers are "missing from too many lives and too many homes," Obama said these men "have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it."

Speaking at Chicago's Apostolic Church of God, with his wife and two daughters in the audience, Obama said that more police on the street and job training programs are essential for a safe and sound society, "But we also need families to raise our children."

"I say this knowing that I have been an imperfect father -- knowing that I have made mistakes and will continue to make more; wishing that I could be home for my girls and my wife more than I am right now," said Obama, as his daughters Sasha and Malia sat with his wife, Michelle Obama. "I say this, knowing all of these things, because even as we are imperfect, even as we face difficult circumstances, there are still certain lessons we must strive to live and learn as fathers -- whether we are black or white; rich or poor; from the South Side or the wealthiest suburb."

The sermon marked the first time Obama had addressed a church since he ended his membership at Trinity United Church of Christ, his longtime place of worship, after it became a flashpoint in the campaign.

Recalling his own experience being abandoned by his father at the age of two, Obama said he was fortunate to have his grandparents aid his mother in his upbringing.

"Even though my father left us when I was two years old, and I only knew him from the letters he wrote and the stories that my family told, I was luckier than most. I grew up in Hawaii, and had two wonderful grandparents from Kansas who poured everything they had into helping my mother raise my sister and me -- who worked with her to teach us about love and respect and the obligations we have to one another," he told the audience. "I screwed up more often than I should've, but I got plenty of second chances. And even though we didn't have a lot of money, scholarships gave me the opportunity to go to some of the best schools in the country. A lot of kids don't get these chances today. There is no margin for error in their lives."

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Posted by: Nancy Barness | June 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Any effort to encourage men to be better fathers has to be applauded and I like the way he did by encouraging more personal responsibility and improvements in public policy. Too often politicians only focus on one side or the other instead of speaking from a big picture point of view. We also need more prominent people addressing family issues because we have some serious family issues in the USA in these days and times regardless of race. - Haasim, The Black Art Depot

Posted by: blackartdepot | June 21, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

why is it that so many people confuse dislike of culture a racist issue?? let me explain: every community i've lived that's predominantly hispanic or black seems to be ghetto-ish in nature.poverty level or below.so i' moved into a middle class white area 5 years ago to escape the sound of gunfire and intense crime in general.i'm much happier now..does this make me a racist for moving into a white area? i grew up not hanging with blacks or hispanics.so i hang with people of my own race and culture.this is my preference.this isn't racism.i date within my own race cuz that's where i'm comfortable.all my friends are like me in these respects.but we're not racists any one of us.but yet,i know there's a whole lotta people that would condider us so simply cause of our 'preferences'. i absolutely hate rap and hip hop music so don't hang with people who listen to it. i don't like the mtv culture whatsoever.i avoid people with that attitude in fact.again,my friends are this way too.we have no hard feelings against blacks or any other race but we feel strongly opposed to much of today's black culture/. not skin color.many white people are attuned to the same culture.

Posted by: djteel | June 20, 2008 4:56 AM | Report abuse

He also spoke about the great jobs that fathers do, but everyone seem to have skip that part. The sermon was very much needed. Thank you.

Posted by: Dawn | June 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

@ Why?

you wrote: "Barack Hussein Obama is 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and only 6.25% black"

LOL! I'm sorry, but where are you getting this genealogical breakdown?

Both of the following links outline Obama's ancestry, and neither have any Arabic connections:

http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/barack_obama.htm
http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

As you say, "Facts are facts. Do your research."

Posted by: Piter | June 17, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Obamas plan for iraq is total defeat for america, just like viatnam. as a father of this nation as president he is not qualified,,thus we go for Mccain this november- the real father who cares.

Posted by: allan beltran | June 16, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

What he is saying is the truth, now lets just see what kind of spin the media and the pundits will try to make out of it. This is not a stereotype, it is the truth that stares many of us in the face everyday, but so many of us are afraid to speak truth to power. Too many men have abandoned their children and have placed the burden of child rearing upon the women.

http://divalocity.blogspot.com/

Posted by: msvon60 | June 16, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Real men who take their fathering responsibilities seriously will get Obama's speech. Many others, such as the sampling of hateful bigots in the comments above, won't.

Posted by: Chris | June 16, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Wapo should be proud of the crowd they attract. Realy..why here? Why not on the Fox site or the KKK or something? Don't they have their own site or is this it?

It is amazing to me that you can see a speech like this(OR sermon or WHATEVER you want to call it) and find something to hate in it. This is a real dad talking to real people. Really.

You "haters" are exactly what is wrong with the United States. Just admit you can't handle diversity and move to Denmark, okay? If you want a senile old white man with PTSD to be President and carry on the wonderful Bush legacy, you go on and vote Republican. Just quit talking until you have something to say. GO READ A BOOK.

Posted by: crazyme | June 16, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I would very much appreciate it if Obama girl was taken off of the air waves my children are exposed to. I think she sends a very poor message to my daughters and sons. If I want pornography, i can find it without her flaunting herself like a cheep floozy. Obama girl disrespecting herself in this way only make men think that it is ok to disrespect other women.

Posted by: 1paperclip | June 16, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

What he said is correct but it doesn't only apply to black men--it applies to all men. I hate to see him make a race issure out of everything.

Posted by: 1paperclip | June 16, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

this is not a slam on black men, it is a slam on all men that just lay down to have a child and then are gone. This takes courage to say and he did a graet job!

Posted by: Gin4u | June 16, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

You know what I wont fuss at the retarded comments...There is no way anyone that listened to that speech had anything short to say but "AMEN"... whether you hate people of color or just Obama... Im going to pray for you all that have a race problem...better yet I am going to continue to pray for all of you that have a problem with anyone specifically because of what the look like.... I love you all... and no matter what any of you "hatemongers" think he will be the next President... AND even more scary to those of you that hate that this campaign is about unity - the fact that the majority of the US population does not care about what people look like all that matters are the contents of their character... AND surely someone will be cursing me about this post...I want you to know that you may say what you please, you may think what you please...none of that matters..because I still love you... and MY GOD tells me that is more powerful than any hatred you may feel... I am not all holier than thou...but what I am is a good person and I know we will never be able to fight hatred with hatred...

I offer this to all of my Obama supporters as well, dont approach or respond to this kinds of hate filled words...just smile and tell them.."Obama will work for you too, even if you dont like him"

Obama 08

Posted by: ObamaBama | June 16, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

FACTS REGARDING BIRTHS TO UNMARRIED WOMEN

In 2004, the most recent year for which data are available from the National Center for Health Statistics http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/pdf/75_PDF.pdf births to unmarried white women was 25.4 %, while births to unmarried white women was 69.5 %.
Clearly blacks are almost 3 times more prone to this problem than whites. The root cause is irresponsibility, which leads to the high incarceration rates among blacks, their low education rates, and generally lower economic status. Bill Cosby spoke of the problem now parroted by Obama. However he offers words for political gain, at least I know of no legislation he has authored addressing the problem. Obama offers words, just words. In fact, promises and offers made in the past to gain political office have actually abetted the problem with tax money supporting it.
The solution? Simple. Turn morals back 50 or 60 years. Will Obama be able to accomplish this? If he's like those he has hung out with and received monetary support from (and your friends do define you), then his morals overall show him to be a hypocrite. What about McCain. Really, not much better. Very unfortunate.

Posted by: Billw | June 16, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

We are in need of other high profile figures speaking out about properly caring for the babies that we bring into the world. We also need more government funding for newborns. In 2006, the US had the world's 2nd highest death rate for newborns.

So long as media portray a woman's breasts as merely a sex object and our little girls are encouraged by that same media to dress provocatively, Senator Obama needs to continue to speak out on the subject.

It's all the more reason why we need to have abortions kept safe and infrequent, which also means this country needs to grow up about sex education and birth control for our young and easily manipulated ones.

"Never have to say you're sorry" is a story about what happened to a college student in the 1960's who faced the impossible task of raising a child alone.

http://healinganation.wordpress.com/

an aside to the bigots: America makes up appx. 5 per cent of the world population while "whites" make up between 11 and 13 per cent of the global population. It is a small world... now isn't it?

Posted by: tankas | June 16, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

But I think he should have the courage to send out a stronger message to the irresponsible "unwed mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers " of America to stop this irresponsible behavior of getting pregnant without any regard to the consequences.

Posted by: Rodrick | June 16, 2008 11:51 AM

I'm curious...exactly what dimension do you live in that makes it OK for you to blame women more than men for the increasing number of single parent homes? While I agree that the situation is out of control, it is absolutely ridiculoust to think that a "stronger" message needs to be given to men than women. I don't know what your religious affiliation is, but in the Bible, the spiritual head of the family is the man, in which case it would be MORE the man's fault than the women. Do a little research, as substantiated by YOU and many others, sexism is alive and well in America. I don't suppose you know what it feels like to walk in front of MEN and be reduced to a piece of meat by their eyes and comments... or have some random guy honk at you or yell at you when you're just trying to go about your day. Men have created this situation - don't be fooled. Sure, girls need to keep their legs crossed when they're teenagers, but by blaming them when they don't, are you actually suggesting that it's OK for guys to go around trying to hump anything they see, but if a girl actually lets him (or gets RAPED) that it's HER fault for getting pregnant, and hers alone. What an ignorant human being you must be. It's great that you did the right thing by supporting your child, but you aren't sending him a better message by teaching him that women are the problem in the world. It takes TWO to tango bud. And unless your 'baby mama' was inseminated with your baby by aliens, I'm pretty sure you had something to do with it. What a HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!! I've been a single mother (recently re-married) and you know why? Because my ex-husband was abusive. What, are you going to blame me for that too?

Posted by: Jessi | June 16, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain is looking better each day, believe me!

Posted by: Political Watchdog

I would submit that the author of this is a strong supporter of George Bush. He is accustomed to setting bar so low that no one can fail to sail over it. I think folks think that in our current situation mediocrity is insufficient. If so he never will clear the bar by much.

Posted by: G8tr | June 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

One issue with this blog is that it seems as if it would be easy to manipulate the tenor of the comments by a small group of individuals - although that it is always a problem. It does make one wonder.

Having said that, I am somewhat surprised by the shrillness and nastiness of the tone directed at Senator Obama. He lacks some experience of other candidates, but he is a very reasonable man who thinks fairly carefully about his positions. He is thoughtful and reflective, but is also able to make a considered decision. This is a welcome change from what can be best described as the current incurious President, who makes decisions on his "gut." He has also shown good judgment about the seminal issue of our time - the Iraq War. McCain is fighting the last war. McCain was wrong in getting us involved in the worst intractable mess of the last century and he is wrong to suggest that we stay for the next 100 years. Obama is also one of the best orators we have seen in the political arena in some time. He is also very involved in creating his speeches unlike many candidates - very Lincolnesque. As far as Obama's emphasis on absent fathers, I can't quite understand the invectiveness of the comments. It is a fairly well known phenomena that it is easier for a member of a group to be critical of that same group and sometimes more meaningful e.g. when those of the Jewish faith are critical of Israel it is taken more positively.

All in all, Senator Obama is a man of enormous talents who has the potential to be an outstanding President. That's about all you can say at this point. If we are fortunate enough to elect Obama, then only time will be the judge of his performance.

Posted by: Mark St. Louis | June 16, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

It was not a sermon. It was a speech. Just because it took place in a church does not mean it was a sermon.Ask somebody before you print nonsense...or better yet go to a black church and learn before you print stuff like you have.

Posted by: deb | June 16, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

For those who watched the whole speech it was a great speech.
It's really too bad there are so many haters out there who didn't want to understand what Obama was saying.

Posted by: Muppet | June 16, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree that he is still campaigning and trying to get votes. Having said that, I don't think his remarks on that speech are diminished, since it is the truth for many Americans.

In all honesty, had McCain addressed this issue as well I would've had praised his words as well. However, in light of the situation, Sen. Obama's words show me who is the candidate who is really more in touch with problems of America, of this decade, and outside of Washington.

Posted by: jlm062002 | June 16, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

obama, gave a nice speech, but let' not forget, obama is campaigning, and he is hoping saying the things he thinks women want to hear will win over any who are still on the fence.


Posted by: obama girl? | June 16, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I am so sick of listening to Obama's sanctimonious sermons. He should have been a preacher. Certainly has more experience in that realm than president. And, of course, anything former Hillary supporters say is wrong, according to his obnoxious supporters, who will awaken one day from their Obama-induced coma. McCain is looking better each day, believe me!

Posted by: Political Watchdog | June 16, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

As a result of my own youthful ignorance, no birth control, I became a seventeen year old single father on the day I graduated high school 34 years ago. In order to repay the hospital bill, ($1,700.00), and support my son, ($150.00 per month), I decided to join the U.S. Army. After serving my two year hitch I was honorably discharged from the Army and returned home to start my life which included helping to raise and support my son. I am proud of my son's accomplishments and the fact that I played an integral part in his life despite the fact I was the "non-custodial" parent.

That said I strongly believe that my son, as all children, would have been better served being raised in a two parent family environment. However as long as girls/women have a safety net of being financially supported by non-custodial fathers, or by the government I think girls/women will continue becoming pregnant, keeping the baby and doing so without any regard for the consequences of the child. This is precisely why we are now seeing generation after generation of so-called "strong matriarchal households" where little or no regard is given to the value of a father, other than for insemination purposes. This is also why we hear a young professional athletes crediting their mothers, grandmothers and/or great grandmothers" for their "success" on the field or on the court. Ironically many of these same highly paid athletes are non-custodial fathers themselves having irresponsibly fathered one or more children while still in their teens. We have created a sub-society that "celebrates" children having children. Where children are being raised by single mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers and these girls/women are "proud of it".. It has simply become acceptable for a girl to become pregnant at an early age while unmarried and to "keep the baby" no matter what consequences.

I think it is fine for Senator Obama to scold non-custodial fathers, so-called "dead beat dads" who do not financially support their children the of America. But I think he should have the courage to send out a stronger message to the irresponsible "unwed mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers " of America to stop this irresponsible behavior of getting pregnant without any regard to the consequences. Grandmothers and great grandmothers who were irresponsible unwed mothers should not be raising the children of America. American's should no longer condone this irresponsible behavior of children having children. We have birth control, we have adoption. Let's start using these very important tools to curb this huge societal problem.

Posted by: Rodrick | June 16, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I GUARANTEE YOU THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE POSTED COMMENTS ON THIS WEB, ESP THOSE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY RACIST, HAVE NOT READ THE ENTIRE SERMON BY SEN OBAMA. STUPID AMERICANS HAVE A VERY SHORT ATTENTION SPAN AND GET ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION FROM HEADLINES OR FIRST PARAGRAPHS. HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME, FOOLS, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, OR PERHAPS YOUR ATTENTION SPAN WAS LIMITED TO ONLY THE FIRST HALF SENTENCE OF THIS POST.

Posted by: joe turner, UK | June 16, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Cathy. I am reminded of the "A House Divided" speech and debates by Lincoln; where he mentions that a "a house divided cannot stand." I is time we stop this mud- slinging none sense and focus on what is most important for our nation. whether liberal or conservative, there are many things in which we agree: like how education is the key for personal achievement and improvement. why don't we all just come together, build on that, and see what we can accomplish as a nation.

Posted by: jlm062002 | June 16, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Me too, Cathy...although I have 12 years on you.

Posted by: Joyce | June 16, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

As I listen to Senator Obama's Father's Day Sermon, and I read the many comments posted, I am more convinced than ever that Senator Obama is the right person at the right time to lead this troubled nation. The hatred written in many of these posted comments is evidence of the need for Senator Obama. The understanding and compassion written in many posts is evidence of the need for Senator Obama.
He has lived both the good and the bad expressed by all who have taken the time to speak out in these comments. Senator Obama brings out the conversations that this Great Nation must have in order to become the "more perfect union" our founders intended for us. It is time for this country to walk the walk it has been talking about for generations. I am a 56 year old white woman from a a modest upbringing and I am proud to be supporting Senator Obama for President.

Posted by: cathy | June 16, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I applaud Sen. Obama for his remarks. I too grew up without a father figure, but hope to have a great positive impact on my future children.

I think many here are misunderstanding his message and choosing to misunderstand to gain a political cheap shot. His point is not to call all fathers children and so forth--it is to encourage fathers to be there for their children and to praise those who already are.

Posted by: jlm062002 | June 16, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

WELL IT'S TIME FOR OBAMA TO GET BACK O THE TRAIL SEE HOW MANY WHITE VOTERS HE WON OVER ON YESTERDAY WHEN HE SLAMMED BLACK MEN ONLY. DAVIS AX-MAN AXELROD TOLD THIS IDIOT TO DO WHAT HE DID TO GET THE WHITE BLUE COLLAR/WORKING CLASS VOTES...AND HE DID IT! OBAMA DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT BLACK VOTES..HE HAS TAKEN BLACK VOTES FOR GRANTED FROM THE BEGINNING. HE IS AFTER WHITE VOTES AND WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IT, EVEN IF IT MEANS DISSING BLACK PEOPLE. HE HAS SLAMMED EVERYONE SO FAR WHO HAS HELPED HIM TO GET WHERE HE IS TODAY.
I KEEP HOPING THAT THE BLACK COMMUNITY WOULD OPEN THIER EYES AND SEE JUST HOW THEY ARE BEING SOLD-OUT. OBAMA WHO NOT AND WILL NOT TARGET OTHER RACES IN SUCH A NEGATIVE MANNER. BUT IT'S OK TO DEFICATE ON BLACK PEOPLE ISN'T IT?

Posted by: Ebonyflash | June 16, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Dianne72, you should move to Switzerland to be around nothing but white people, because America is a land where plenty of different people live.

Wake up!!! Stop your racist hatred!!

Posted by: | June 15, 2008 9:09 PM

To whoever posted the above:

Have you ever been to Switzerland? I am Swiss!

We have the highest immigration rate in Europe!

IF(and only IF you ever cared to read up on foreign policies)you are revering to the "black sheep" campaign, then let me tell you that it was run by the Swiss conservative party (very similar to your GOP) which only represents a minority per cent of the Swiss population! And just as the Republicans is suffering major losses.

Next time read up on a country before you use it to slag off your own racists!

You are just as ignorant as all these white power loving pieces of s**t!

OBAMA 08

Posted by: Jonesy | June 16, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I can tell by these posts that the majority of posters didn't even listen to Obama's sermon. As a volunteer reading tutor for young kids, I can tell you that there are a LOT of parents (of all races) who are doing a lousy job. Many parents focus on the material things, but they neglect their children's emotional, social and educational needs. The majority of kids I've tutored have never had a story read to them; they are starved for attention and love having a real conversation with an adult who listens.

Posted by: OBAMA '08 | June 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The family values stuff is great, but Senator Obama's positions on abortion are quite radical and have not been adequately covered in the media. Here's a two part analysis with links (long but I'm not a hostile nutcase and I don't link hostile nutcase stuff, so you might want to keep reading).

PART I. Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA)

In July 2007, Senator Obama made a pro choice speech to Planned Parenthood and, in the Q&A session at the end, he stated that his first act as president would be to sign FOCA. So what is FOCA? FOCA is a proposed federal statute sponsored by Senator Obama which would accomplish four goals:

(1) Codify Roe v. Wade.
(2) Provide federal taxpayer funding through abortion.
(3) Void all state laws and regulations prohibiting or restricting abortion.
(4) Provide civil penalties for anyone who denies a woman the right to abortion.

I'm not sure whether pro-life doctors and nurses who refuse to perform abortions could be penalized under paragraph 4. I think this paragraph is aimed at Catholic hospitals that refuse to allow abortions.

Full Text of Senator Obama's speech (the dynamite's in the Q&A session):

http://lauraetch.googlepages.com/barackobamabeforeplannedparenthoodaction

NRL site links to FOCA text: http://www.nrlc.org/FOCA/index.html

Incidentally, the Q&A sessions contain other very revealing answers (Senator Obama's philosophy on judicial nominations: the Supreme Court should be the "refuge of the powerless."

PART II. Infanticide?

In some late term abortions, the fetus/baby survives for several hours after being separated from the mother's body. Because current medical technology for preemies is so good and continues to improve, this presents a problem. Possibly some of these fetus/babies could survive the abortion and live to grow up if medical care were provided. So should we provide medical care or not? Pro life people say medical care should be required and even pro choice people gulp at the idea of denying medical care to a fetus/baby that remains alive after being fully separated from the mother's body.

While Obama was in the Illinois state senate, bills were proposed to require medical care for fetuses/babies that survive an abortion. Senator Obama fought aggressively against these bills. The details of Senator Obama's votes are reported in a news article published n the Jerusalem Post, quoted in full in link below.

http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/aborted-alive/

Posted by: quitaque | June 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Very Very Nice and very much needed. Thanks

Posted by: Dawn | June 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

"Calling himself 'an imperfect father," "
Does this include taking his kids to Trinity United Methodist Church to hear Rev. Wright's inflammatory sermons on Father's Day, as he has said he has done in the past?
-Wm Tate,
http://www.atimelikethis.us/

Posted by: Wm Tate | June 16, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

So now he's xeroxing Bill Cosby. Does this guy ever have an original thought?

Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | June 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm...Obama was in church on father's day. Where was McCain? What church, mosque, or synagoue did he attend?

Watch out McCain, Obama may win over some evangelical support from you!

Obama in 08!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | June 16, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obama is an American through and though. It's sad to hear that some are spreading misinformation about him, but the truth is clear - he is a devout Christian man who wants to help Americans.

Senator Obama's life story is like that of many Americans' lives. Obama's father was an immigrant who came to study in the US, while his mother was from the plains of Kansas. When his parents separated, his mother lived on food stamps to survive and yet, she was able to teach him enough good things so he could become a intelligent lawyer and attend Harvard University. Since then, Senator Obama has been a college professor, a community organizer, an Illinois state legislator (8 years) and a national senator (3.5 years). He has excellent creditials, and I know he'll make a great president.

Let's help him to succeed. You can help by visiting http://www.BarackObama.com and getting involved. And if you want to hear the truth (and not just the conservatives smear-tactics), go to Senator Obama's new site - http://www.fightthesmears.com - and you can see the truth about Senator Obama. At this site, Senator Obama debunks the falsehoods been said about him.

Let's vote for Senator Obama in 2008!

Posted by: Allen | June 16, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Since when did a self-admitted bragging
cocaine addict and drug peddler,liberal
extremist,Muslim Barack Hussein Obama ever become a real role model for black men as
far as being a father here now then?..This
lying drug addict and drug pusher Obama
needs to go spend time with his own kids
instead of ranting about it in another black church pulpit. Obama is a fraud face it and accept that Barack Obama is a loser.

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | June 16, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama now leads mcBush 51-38% among women. The predicted winner in Nov.:
Democrats surveyed .....Obama
Independents surveyed...Obama
Republicans surveyed....Obama

Predicted Loser:
Republicans surveyed....mcBush

Gallup Polls...gallup.com

Posted by: will | June 16, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps one of the best public speakers in modern time, but a political lightweight at best. We've had 8 years of political hacks leading our country, we don't need 4 more under Obama.

Posted by: WaPoSuxBalls | June 16, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I would say thats a good way to start public service and spare us tax payers some of our money.Do this for another 10 years and then try presidential campaigning.

Posted by: j | June 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

So given Preacher Man Barack Hussein Obama
own family history of an AWOL Father,that
makes me wonder just exactly what the Hell
qualifies this jerk Obama to lecture anyone
now then? Iam white and it angers me...

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | June 16, 2008 8:48 AM
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Claudine, because you're white and likely ignorant of the realities of African American life in America, I will give you the benefit of a doubt. Clearly your comment is informed by your hate for Obama. I'm guessing you're a bitter Hillary supporter. However, I must put you in your place. First, you completely miss the point of Obama's sermon/speech: it is to all fathers and parents, not just black men. Second, you're not a black man, why should it bother you? Go mind your own business. Third, Bill Cosby and numerous black preachers and even Dr. King have said these things. Are they arrogant too for speaking the truth? Are they "self righteous" for setting a good example and trying to address a problematic issue in American society? It is people like you who are what's wrong with America. Anytime a black man tries to rise up and set a good example by, you attack him with lables and lies. Barack Hussein Obama is a role model for all Black men in America, especially the young ones. He demands of us, his community and this nation to rise and aim higher. He encourages us to dream big not only for our personal ambitions, but for the future of this nation. When Barack Obama calls for change, its to move away from people who think like you.
OBAMA for PRESIDENT 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama spoke from the heart yesterday in his speech about the responsibilities of being a father. It is not the first time he has spoken on this topic - taking responsibility for your own life.

And, contrary to the IRON CERTAINTY of those who despise him anyway - these sentiments are not foreign to the congregation of his former church - Trinity.

There, Wright's pyrotechnics were intended to punctuate his 30 years crusade to get his congregation to stand up for themselves and take responsibilty for the Black Community. He railed against government, and as he told Obama --- when you get to the White House - "I'll come after you."

The thin-skined and dainty folk of the far right do not like how Wright spoke - but 99% 0f the time his message was about personal responsibility and standing up for family and neighbors.

This is not a sentiment that is foreign to any church. Obama spoke on Father's Day about a father's responsibility. He spoke AGAINST the blind acceptance of "gangsta culture" and misogyny.

Those to whom he spoke know who they are.

To those dainty folk who are yet again offended by Obama --- calm your sweet little terrified sensibilities. He wasn't talking to you.

Posted by: GandaalftheGrey | June 16, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh okay so Michelle Obama must want Holier
Then Thou Preacher Barack Hussein Obama to
spend more time with his kids as a father,
so that's one more reason to not vote for
Reverend Barack Hussein Obama for President
so that Obama can spend more time with his
two young daughters and the Boss of the
Obama Household Michelle Obama! NOBAMA!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | June 16, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

GOP trolls: we are onto you. Now, very sorry that your sad sack nominee would be an example of a father deserting his family for a younger model. And that well, he is a Iraq war zealot. But to continue to come this board trying to agitate things, pretending to be an african american, a Clinton supporter, or an engineer/housewife is strangely gratifying. That means that you are scared out of your minds. Good...now you know how we felt during this administration.

Posted by: 2008 | June 16, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

You just don't like him. That is your right. Don't twist yourselves into pretzels attacking him from all sides of every issue, though. When you do you look like fools.

Posted by: steve boyington
*******************************
Although it is fun watching all the Obama haters try to twist themselves in knots about this one ("why didn't he introduce legislation?...Bill Cosby said the same thing?...whaaaaaaaaaaaa...I hate him...sob)

Posted by: 2008 | June 16, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

How come when Bill Cosby imparts essentially the same message he is labeled an "Uncle Tom", but Obama is spared the outrage? Seems unfair.

Posted by: Just Curious | June 16, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I am an African-American male who grew up without a father figure, like too many of my other relatives and friends. I think Obama shamed not one person in any racial community, that didn't deserve it.

As far as the actual content of his sermon, this is nothing new to the african american church. We call on our males to stand up and take responsibility at every chance we get. Irresponsible fathers is a serious issue in any community, we like to believe that we're not afraid to address it.

Keep in mind that this was a sermon.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

So given Preacher Man Barack Hussein Obama
own family history of an AWOL Father,that
makes me wonder just exactly what the Hell
qualifies this jerk Obama to lecture anyone
now then? Iam white and it angers me that
the Great Divider Democrat Messiah Preacher
Barack Hussein Obama in his total arrogance
and personal self-righteousness thinks he
is the Self Appointed Judge of all Black
Men and that gives him the right to lord
it over some black fathers and to lecture
them about their roles in a family. Wake
up people and reject Preacher & Morals
Judge Loser Barack Hussein Obama's crazy
rantings in the black churches by throwing
both Barack Hussein and Michelle Obama under the bus,before the creepy Obama's
throw all the rest of us under the bus.
We donot need an arrogant phony self righteous phony like Obama in the White House. No Way Obama!

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | June 16, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Obama's comments are spot on, and are very consistent with what he has been saying for months and years. People just haven't been listening.

To the folks jumping on him for being an elitist professor lecturing working class folks, I ask you this: If he had given a speech telling everyone to lay off absentee dads and to cut some slack to the black community, what would your reaction have been?

You just don't like him. That is your right. Don't twist yourselves into pretzels attacking him from all sides of every issue, though. When you do you look like fools.

Posted by: steve boyington | June 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Okay. Is this a new position that Barack is taking? If not, then where is the legislation that seeks to strengthen families? Where are the speeches made to young black males calling for self-reliance, hard work and pride. Obama seems to relish speaking to the choir, but why is the call for responsibility not made in a predominantly black Chicago high school? Well, it's because this message is made for political reasons to a certain demographic - the white working class. This whole message seems to conflict with Rev. Wright's message of shifting blame to white America.

Listen, we got GW Bush because we didn't see the man for what he truly was - a name, with no real experience. GW's resume was epitomized by his Viet Nam War record - missing in action. Now we are swallowing this message of Change and Hope without looking critically at the man, Obama. If you look closely, you'll see that the message does not match the record. Obama is a brand, expertly marketed by the US public by TEAM OBAMA. It's the same crap in a different package.

So the Republicans used the war during the last elections in an attempt to keep power. So, we elected a Democratic majority. We still have a war. Why? Because the Democrats would rather have the War as an issue during the Presidential Elections. The Dems showed no courage or conviction once they assumed the majority. Find Obama's interview with Tim Russert on MTP. Russert challenged Obama, saying that once Barack came to the Senate that the freshman Senator did not become a spokesperson for withdrawl. Obama agreed and stated that he did not think it appropriate to speak out because some of his Democratic colleagues had voted for the War. Where's the courage? Barack Obama=GW Bush.

Posted by: David | June 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I find it amazing that some Black folks are mad at Obama for saying this. This is by far the BIGGEST issue in the black community since civil rights. This is the root of ALL our problems. People like Bob Johnson have sold us down the river, and we continue to let him and his Black Enslavement Television raise our children. Barack Obama will finish pulling up the weed that Bill Cosby started on. Either you hatin' a$$ N'ggaz get with it, or get the f'duck out of the way. Peace.

Posted by: WallyWutMD | June 16, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

There is an easy solution to this problem. Women just need to keep their knees together until a responsible man comes along. That goes for women of all skin tones.

Posted by: Zardoz | June 16, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Is anybody home? Is there ANYBODY in the Washington Post newsroom assigned to monitor blog "comments?"

To the editor: you can't just abdicate responsibility this way. "Free speech" -- even using the free(er) definition in the blogosphere -- doesn't cover some of the deranged, and even sexually explicit vileness that seems regularly posted to your blogs (The Trail seems to be the worst). And this is a family-access website, dear Lord.

There's something naive about this approach, as if the Post is trying to prove that it is "hip." Please, check out a few of your competitors that are getting it right, like the New York Times, the London Guardian, etc.

You must know that you can't rely on readers to point out offensive posts. That won't work in a charged atmosphere like this election year -- and it especially won't work if you have a "complaint" email address that returns emails with automatically generated delivery failure notifications that give no explanation.

You might have to actually pay (shudder) someone to enforce the policy you announce so grandly (or is that ironically?).

Posted by: alsacecypr | June 16, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Julian
Actually its Cindy McCain who has addiction problems and stole drugs from a charity. So if we want this election to be about garbage we can talk all day about McCain's addiction problems.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

The only problem with your post is that the column was about Obama, who admitted to drug use, and Cindy McCain is not running for the POTUS. Nice try.

Posted by: Jack Straw | June 16, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Tim Russert and Fatherhood: A Tribute

Gordon E Finley, Ph.D.

Tim Russert, internationally respected political analyst and moderator of NBC News' 'Meet the Press,' died unexpectedly and prematurely at age 58 on Friday the thirteenth of June 2008 -- the day preceding the Father's Day weekend -- at work. Russert likely best will be remembered as the longest-running host of one of television's most intensely incisive political interview programs. In my view, however, he should best be remembered as a son, father, and one of the most positive exemplars of and advocates for fathers and their importance in children's lives.

Russert was born on May 7, 1950. By historical and social chance, his life spanned the golden years of fatherhood beginning in the decade of the 1950's -- when fathers and married family life were portrayed in the most positive of lights -- and continued through two score and eight years during which fathers increasingly were depreciated, demeaned, marginalized, and deemed irrelevant both to children and to society.

Blowing against the ideological winds of his adolescent and adult years, Russert wrote two bestselling books which, should his own wishes be granted, will be his most positive and long lasting legacy. Big Russ & Me - Father and Son: Lessons of Life was published in 2004. From the dust jacket: "I have learned so much from Big Russ, and I feel so grateful to him, that I wanted to write a book about the two of us, and also about the other important teachers in my life, who have reinforced Dad's lessons and taught me a few new ones...I hope this book will encourage readers to think about the things they learned from their father. Whatever we achieve and whoever we are, we stand on their shoulders."

The responses of sons and daughters everywhere to this book were overwhelming and these spoken, scribbled, and written commentaries about their own fathers became the foundation of his second book published two years later: Wisdom of Our Fathers: Lessons and Letters from Daughters and Sons. Of the many quotable quotes here are three from the Introduction: "By writing a book about my father, I was affirming not only his life, but the lives of many other fathers as well"; "Thank you for talking about your dad in such a positive way, because that was my experience too"; and "If real estate is about location, location, location, fatherhood is about time, time, time."

In a life by all accounts well lived, Tim Russert represents a man who not only talked the talk in two bestselling books but also walked the walk in his relationships with his own father and son. May the written word outlive the spoken and may his books influence not only fathers and children today, but also society for generations to come.

Entombed in Wisdom of Our Fathers is Russert's own obituary:

"When my life is over, I know that the most important thing I'll be judged on is what kind of father I was."

Gordon E. Finley, Ph.D. is Professor of Psychology at Florida International University in Miami.

Posted by: Gordon E. Finley, Ph.D. | June 16, 2008 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Look at the idiots on here saying the Senator threw black people under the bus...gosh im so sick of hearing Black people in America whine like cry babies, wa wa wa wa, we were maltreated...boo hoo...

There are black people living in every country on the globe, yet the ones with the most opportunity (USA) always seem to prefer to be lazy fools that cant even be there for their kids, what did u want him to say? "oh keep up the good work" im Black and i sure am greatful i don't live in America...

You were NOT the only ones who were taken forcefully from your land, discriminated against and stereotyped...we are everywhere and we are trying to move on and better ourselves and our families....If you don't like the deal you are getting in America then get out and go somewhere else...

stop being babies and move on.. theres bigger things out there and believe me words cannot explain how it feels to break the stereotype and do something for yourself....and you're supposed to be telling the rest of the world what to do? Gosh i feel sorry for all of our future's.

Posted by: Human | June 16, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Obama Succumbed To Pressure( from Juan Williams, Bill Cosby & others)) To Tell Black Dads to Clean Up Their Act!

Whose votes did he get from this sermon?
What will the response be from those dads?

Or was it just another arrogant elitist lecture by the Professor similar to the lecture about folks who are bitter and frustrated clinging to religion & guns
that backfired terribly?

Posted by: concerned | June 16, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

So once again the self-righteousness and
total arrogance of the Obamafools New Messiah Con Man Barack Hussein Obama comes
out with Obama insulting and sterotyping
every black man in the United States and
it show Barack Hussein Obama is too damn
emotionally unstable to be President as
well. So why don't Preacher Obama go become
a Trinity Church Preacher as Obama is a
Johnny One Note Speech Racist and Muslim
Extremist Libveral Loser that we cannot
trust to run this country. I feel sorry for
the millions of black fathers and mothers
that this phony out of touch with reality
creep Barack Hussein Obama shamed and even
insuited with his rantings and who the Hell
is Barack Hussein Obama to judge anyone,
with Obama's own record of Cocaine Addiction and Drug Peddling and Endless Lies. So are you Obamafools going to defend
your false hope phony drug addict fraud
again? If you do then you too will be thrown under the bus by Barack Hussein and
Michelle Obama. As Obama needs to stop
using black churchdes to promote his own
screwball Marxist and Muslim Agenda. NOBAMA

Posted by: Sherry Kay | June 16, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm confused, first were told it's all the fault of the government and rich white men (while the crowd cheers) and now he seems to be implying that parents, and in particular fathers, have a role and responsibility. Perhaps it's just a different message for a different audience on a different day.

Posted by: by | June 16, 2008 7:02 AM | Report abuse

And today, Obama will be apologizing to outraged black fathers and saying he misspoke.

Posted by: Lynn | June 16, 2008 6:55 AM | Report abuse

GeorgiaSon, don't believe for a minute those are posts from African Americans. They know Obama is just trying to "get over" with whites by pretending to criticize "his own". Blacks will vote 100% for Obama in November no matter what he says, and he knows that too.

The speech was an artificial, manufactured "Sister Souljah" moment- as phony and superficial as everything else about Obama's campaign. But as they say, nobody ever went broke trying to fool the American public.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 6:37 AM | Report abuse

America this is another reason why we should elect Senator Obama as president. He is the double-edge saw we all need right now. And can lambaste some of these baby-making morons without thinking twice about it. Somebody has to tell black men the truth whether they like it or not.

Posted by: steve | June 16, 2008 6:37 AM | Report abuse

It's appalling and revealing to see the number of posts on this page--apparently mostly from blacks--lambasting Obama's speech as some sort of sell-out of the African-American community and condemning Obama for singling out black fathers.

What la-la land do you people live in? The out-of-control illegitimacy rate among blacks is the single greatest cause of all the ills that afflict the black community, especially its males. No other society in the recorded history of mankind has ever before produced a 60%-plus illegitimacy rate. Certainly, no successful society ever has. It's off the scale of civilized societies. It bespeaks ignorance and irresponsibility that ought to shame every black American.

But in fact, it has become the elephant under the rug. Just as the posts in this blog show, it's something blacks hope we will dance around and pretend doesn't exist, while we put sack cloths on our heads over the high incarceration rates among blacks, their low education rates, their low economic status, their lack of education--all proving, of course, that if white people stopped being racist bigots and poured more of their tax money into the black community, blacks' problems would go away.

And when even no less than the nation's first black presidential candidate addresses the issue of black males' irresponsibility, instead of being praised for his candor, he becomes the enemy of the whining victimization crowd. How sad that the people who are suffering the most from this denial of reality are the very black males Obama's critics profess to champion.

Posted by: GeorgiaSon | June 16, 2008 6:03 AM | Report abuse

I am sad to see that the arguments are too far to the reality, some just concluded without a thoughfullness in mind and appreciation but for using hate / negativity for others. I think whoever puts so much the same repeated comment here has no much good time for the better of his own, the family and the trust for his/her country, Read or listern with a clear mind about Obama COMMENT on farther's day, did not target individuals but also refered to a very respectable comment about being a good farther not only Africa Americans but he also mentioned about others too. Please open your ears / eyers and keep your mind clear to understand the trueth and trust, for that you will be the leader by example.

Posted by: vipper11 | June 16, 2008 5:55 AM | Report abuse

Obama is not an African-American.

Obama is an Arab-American. Barack Obama, Sr., was 87.5% Arab - and, as recorded in Kenya, where Obama holds a dual citizenship since 1963, Barack Obama, Jr. is Arab-American.

Obama has released 3700 surrogates on us to downplay any "smear campaigns." This is not a smear campaign, this is a fact.

Obama is an Arab. He is deceptive and secretive. When he finally released his "birth certificate," he blacked out the Certificate No., so nobody could verify if it was tampered with.

My question is this: To the Super delegates: Why would you endorse a pathological liar, someone who is secretive, deceptive and has a multitude of anti-American friends, domestic terrorist friends, and close associations with corrupt Chicago Way politicians? gw.

Posted by: Iowatreasures | June 16, 2008 4:51 AM | Report abuse

fc, you are so out of touch with life? There wasn't anything wrong with Obama encouraging black fathers! I read where Obama did include all walks of life including other nationalities.

I know that almost half of the families that's white has one of following: Adoption from spouse,Abortions, and it's baffling me how you feel so bad for blacks. Stop talking nonsense and go find your mother.

Posted by: Ranger01 | June 16, 2008 4:34 AM | Report abuse

fc, stop trying to stop progress, your inept tactics are not workingl It's really starting to sound like you don't take care of you child/children.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

Please VVV check the stats, you have been debunked for nearly a century now. It's you and your kind that is enjoying the benefits of the government. Everyone knows this. HeHe He!

Posted by: Ranger01 | June 16, 2008 4:15 AM | Report abuse

It is vital that the citizenry of this country begin to take the time to listen to the full statements or find & read the full transcripts of speeches of political leaders and stop reacting to sound bites taken out of context.

It was a great speech on fatherhood, given on Father's Day with a couple lines about absentee fathers.

Posted by: Tina | June 16, 2008 3:18 AM | Report abuse

It is vital that the citizenry of this country begin to take the time to listen to the full statements or find & read the full transcripts of speeches of political leaders and stop reacting to sound bites taken out of context.

It was a great speech on parenting, with a line or 2 about absentee fathers.

Posted by: Tina | June 16, 2008 3:18 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA SMEARED BLACK DADS AS THOUGH THEY ARE THE ONLY DADS NOT RAISNG THEIR CHILDREN. THAT WAS COLD-BLOODED!!!

HIS MESSAGE SHOULD HAVE AND COULD HAVE ADDRESSED MEN OF ALL RACES.
THERE ARE SINGLE PARENT HOMES ALL OVER THIS NATION AND NOT ALL ARE BLACK NOR OR ALL WITHOUT DADS. IN SOME CASES MOM LEFT AND DAD STAYED.

I FEEL SORRY FOR MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS WHO ARE PROUD OF BEING HUMLIATED BY OBAMA.
HE CAME INTO YOUR COMMUNITY AND ABUSED YOU WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING IT.

HE PROVED THAT HE COULD SLAM BLACK PEOPLE AND THAT RAISES HIS CREDIBILITY AMONG WHITE VOTERS.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | June 16, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Obama has stepped over the line...way of out bounds. NOW HE HAS THROWN BLACK MEN UNDER THE BUS!!! THIS IS POLITICAL PANDERING. OH YEAH!!! He is dividing the black community because he knows that black women will say "yo go boy...sure you right". MORE THAN THAT...He knows that the white voters who aren't sure of BHO will say, "this boy might be OK...he ain't afraid to talk trash about black men...maybe I could vote for him".

I say that BHO's speech should have covered missing dads of all races all over the country...not just in BLACK HOUSEHOLDS.

You black folks who are praising this speech just are to dense to see thar BHO came to the black community to show white America that has the balls to tell blacks negative things about themselves.

When he is in IOWA he doesn't say demeaning things about them.

And many black people are praising him for taking a crap on you...I am so angry that he used us like that.

Posted by: Ebonyflash | June 16, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

timeMost of the venom has been directed at Obama. Realistically there has not been much towards McCain. Nor should there be.. to him a war hero and Obama a peacetime hero. Kerry was a war time hero too incidentally with medals too. There was plenty of swift venom directed at him too often from people with no military service.

Posted by: Bill Kane | June 16, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

What's up with all the wackadoodles spitting venom at every chance? Making up factoids, lies, and fantastic accusations?

Do you think you're really successful with your arguments here? Or are you just showing us how desperate, hateful, and crazy you are?

I laugh at you-- I laugh at the spectacle of your deranged minds. I laugh now and I'll laugh until November when Obama becomes President and then I'll laugh some more.

Posted by: Loon Watcher | June 16, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obama is a devout Christian man, and he has a delightful family with two precious daughters. It's sad to hear that people are spreading misinformation about Senator Obama. If you'd like to learn the facts, go to his new webpage that debunks the smears being said about him. The site explains the TRUTH that Senator Obama is a decent lawyer who wants to help Americans. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is misleading you. You can learn the truth about this excellent Senator at his new site. The site that tells the truth is: http://www.fightthesmears.com and his regular campaign site is: http://www.BarackObama.com

Posted by: Allen | June 16, 2008 2:29 AM | Report abuse

How come he can call them "Boys"? If McCain did that, he'd be flayed alive. Interesting.

Posted by: Bob | June 16, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Grace:
Obama started caring about the family man when he was dealing drugs in his Chicago slum during the 90's.

Posted by: Grace | June 16, 2008 12:53 AM

Actually its Cindy McCain who has addiction problems and stole drugs from a charity. So if we want this election to be about garbage we can talk all day about McCain's addiction problems.

Posted by: Julian | June 16, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a closet RACIST just like Rev Jeremiah Wright & Father Pfleger.


Every day people are judged by the friends you hang out with. Obama friends are just plain scary:

a terrorist & cop killer, a Chicago fraudster & money lauderer, two racist pastors


Posted by: Middle America | June 16, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Is Obama really lying? His brother says he was a Muslim

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm

Posted by: Jeff from FL | June 16, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Whenever I get into a heated discussion with a co-worker, a relative, a friend, or a drunk stranger teetering on his barstool at the bar's edge, and we're arguing politics, economics, culture, et al, I am invariably at loss for facts. And it puts me at an extreme disadvantage, for facts fuel any argument. With facts you can throw strikes and spares. Without facts you face all those gutterballs and open frames. But as any man who has read the Times can tell you, facts can be made to lie and can be used to anyone's advantage. So facts, in and of them selves, are not pure and end-alls but they could sure help a guy illustrate his point on the drawbacks of globalization and corporate welfare. As Mark Twain once said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please". (If only there were a way to avoid all the distortion might make a quaint footnote.)
So to increase my stockpile of facts I've been investing my evenings scouring the internet in search of these little nuggets of immediate illustrative power, those little one-liner zingers that makes the other man remove his cowboy hat and start scratching his balding scalp explaining to you (for he has no facts of his own stored up you see) that he's never heard that news before.
Tonight I had the thought of compiling a list of American companies that have filed for bankruptcy in the last few years after reading in the January 2003 issue of Fortune magazine that the Telecommunications mega-giant WorldCom, facing a $3.85 billion accounting scandal and a mountain of junk-rated debt, filed for bankruptcy making it the largest corporate failure in US history. Such horrifying facts that pass by the collective American viewfinder without a second thought (never mind an outrage) are precisely the facts that need to be known, amplified, and explained to empower the common workingman to some semblance of self-reliance.
So I entered "corporate bankruptcies statistics" in the ole search engine. Thing is, the results, in a world where nothing is shocking, were hard to comprehend. As I typed in the word "statistics" I imagined a short list over the last few years of no-name companies save the Enron's and Kmart's newsworthy to CNN, the networks, and the AP. The list of companies that had filed for bankruptcy in just the last two weeks were staggering: The technology trade show company Key3Media Group, SAirGroup Finance (USA) Inc., Cannondale Corp. of Bethel Connecticut a maker of bicycles and motorcycles, Insilco Technologies Inc., Bayou Steel, BRAC Group Inc. t/k/a Budget Group Inc., Northern District of Ohio Eastern Division of Gliatech Inc., Uniroyal Technology Corp., Wherehouse Entertainment Inc. which operates 370 music retail stores including the Wherehouse Music chain, Northern District of Georgia, Atlanta Division of Flooring America Inc., FAO Inc. owner of 3 toy retailers [Right Start baby stores, Zany Brainy educational toys, FAO Schwarz high-end toys], and Congoleum a maker of flooring out of Mercerville, NJ. Not to mention the recently bankruptcies of three National Hockey League franchises, the Ottawa Senators, the Buffalo Sabres, and the Pittsburg Penguins.
Facts indeed: "Assets reported in bankruptcies hit yearly record, ...The overall record of $368B [was] recorded in 2002...the 2d year in a row that telecom [##1,3,8 below] outstripped dot-com..\.. Scandals and tough economic conditions took their toll...producing 5 of the 8 biggest bankruptcies ever and placing a record amount of assets into Chapter 11.... [#1] WorldCom...$103.9B...was by far the largest filer and contributed about 30% to the overall record... [#3] Conseco...$61.4B, [#6] Global Crossing...$30.2B, [#7] UAL...$25.2B, [#8] Adelphia...$21.5B....186 public companies filed for Chapter 11 through Dec. 24, second only to the previous year's record of 257". That's nearly a corporate bankruptcy every other day in the United States.
Overwhelming. Too many facts. Sensory overload. And with this notion I abruptly realize what I'm up against, compiling facts. These facts of bankruptcy have no relevance, no power, mean nothing in our current economic political cultural environment. The bombardment of all this information makes us Americans numb and unaffected by such alarming news. Bankruptcy is commonplace and common knowledge in our land. Such facts that should spell a warning instead induce a shrug and the thought that bankruptcy is a common business practice whether or not its caused by mega-mergers gone awry, bad management, or money laundering scandals.
But this does not discourage me. On the contrary, discovering such rude facts stirs me to unearth even more. Yes, it's so true, facts are not truths. To know truth you need to act on the facts you have gathered.

"If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence." -- Bertrand Russell, in "Roads to Freedom"

Posted by: drunk stranger | June 16, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Washington Post! Shame on you for posting all of this racist/sick/disgusting COMMENTS!!!!

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Lie's ALL Lie's!!!This is one of the WORST Comment Sites I've been on you continue to post the SH%t!!!I'm going to tell everyone I know to Boycott this Joke of a Paper/website/blog!! You make me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tish in NC | June 16, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

It's not necessary to insult McCain to be for Obama. I am a republican for Obama, and I think they both have pros and cons, but on balance, I am choosing Obama. But it's quite distressing to see so much venom directed at both candidates by the posters on this forum. Can't people feel good about a candidate without demonizing the opposition? I see so much of this, on both sides, and it's really quite discouraging.

Posted by: paulette | June 16, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

How many thumps should we hear before we realize he's going to eventually throw us all under the bus?

Posted by: Jeff Taylor | June 16, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

No it is not a lie. 70% of black children are born to fatherless homes breathtaking isn't it. Check out the HHS stats and you will find I am telling the truth.

Yes its not just black children. 43% of Hispanics and 22% of white children are born to fatherless homes now too.

The stats were 15% for blacks in 1950 and 5% for whites.

What changed?

You tell me but I bet it has something to do with morality and culture and resolve to act with integrity on the most important issues in life the first being honoring one's commitments and seeing the union of a man and a woman as sacred not just about a piece of a--. When every song on the radio is about grabbing crotch and calling women ho's and celebrates faithlessness somethings got to give. The black family is what gave.

Posted by: Mike | June 16, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

I must say I am fascinated by the comments and the tenor of the "discussion" here. Whether some of these comments on race are real or just meant to provoke, there sure still seems to be a lot of animus out there about racial issues - which frankly surprises me some. Hopefully, this discussion is moving us down the road towards a more "perfect union." We are and always have been a work in progress.

I must admit, however, it does make me wonder about our country and our vaunted belief in freedom and liberty for all. After all, that is what has distinguished us from the rest of the world during our history.

I will try and put my faith in the American people and hope that when they do vote against Obama, it will be because of legitimate differences on issues, or they think that McCain has better leadership skills, or better foreign policy experience, rather than the color of Obama's or his wife's skin.

Unfortunately, we do have a fairly sordid record on race relations in this country, even though it continues to improve at something faster than a snail's pace. We are making progress folks. Let's keep the faith. And when we falter as we will do, all we need to remember is something written over 200 years ago, by some pretty smart guys.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Posted by: MarkStLouis | June 16, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Yo Bro..... da crackahs heah call you da preacha man...

Posted by: Cotton tail | June 16, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

"Obama's sermon is a start "

Right. A start at being a Baptist preacher, which is his real calling.

Posted by: Billw | June 16, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

He criticizes black men because he is half white!

Posted by: jackmack74 | June 16, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Obama started caring about the family man when he was dealing drugs in his Chicago slum during the 90's.

Posted by: Grace | June 16, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

"give him kudos for broaching the subject." No, he is a hypoctite and a fraud.

Posted by: Billw | June 16, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

He specifically called out black fathers, but said nothing of the scores of white children who have been abandoned by their fathers through divorce.

Both races have an abundance of single mothers raising children. Bill Clinton was one of those children.

There was no HOPE in Obama's message today. Just the same old tired retread of the missing black father.

The disintegration of black families is economic in nature: over 50% of black children receive AFDC benefits at some point during their childhood (vs. 8% for white children). In 1964, 14% of black children and 2% of white children were receiving AFDC assistance.

that means that welfare dependency has quadrupled for both white and black poor families, but black families had a larger percentage of poverty to begin with.

it always points back to money.

Posted by: ProfWrightBSU | June 16, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

>>. The facts are that 70% of black children in America are now born to fatherless homes>>

HUGE LIE!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Obama's sermon is a start but very weak. The facts are that 70% of black children in America are now born to fatherless homes. The result prisons filled to the brim.

This is a national emergency. If Barak Obama is softly tiptoeing around the issue by saying, " Hey I'm not perfect either but how about thinking of taking responsibility for your abandoned children Black dads?" how can he lead us to solve America's toughest problems? Sounds like he is already running for reelection and gosh he doesn't want to lose any potential votes.

I would like to see Obama tell us what he is going to do about this problem. Iraq is a tiny tiny problem compared to the pandemic of uneducated drop outs on drugs that prowl America's inner cities looking for the next score and score to settle and sweet talking the next innocent girl into bearing the next abandoned child.

Black America has become a factory for crime, women abuse, child abuse, drug abuse, alcoholism, suicide because black men are cowards unwilling to take responsibility for their own sons and daughters. Oh excuse me I don't mean to paint all black people with that brush only the fathers who dump 70% of black children unto young mothers whose chances to succeed drop by 75%, which is how much their income potential is lost, once unwed and pregnant.

Fatherlessness is the number indicator for all of the above. Some do escape the whirlpool, thank God, but clearly far too many beautiful young black children grow into angry and confused young men lashing out and young women longing for the arms of the dad who never held her.

Posted by: Mike | June 16, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Is McCain the crypt keeper too old to father more children? I heard his sperm had turned to dust . . . Not that Cindy cares. I know she doesn't want his old yellow teeth and do do diapers in her bed!!

Posted by: freerider | June 16, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

If men were committed to God first, wife and children second, and church home third, the world would be a better place. Sadly, it would put hate mongers and politicians out of business.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

wow what a mistake coming here thinking to engage in an intellectual discussion about Obama's sermon. Off to the Caucus I go

Posted by: Brad | June 16, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Black and Bitter, I hate to tell you this, but you and your fellow Obama-bots are going to be even more black and bitter" come November 2008, because when folks go behind the polling curtain, they're going to go, ohmigod! NEVER OBAMA, WE PREFER THE DEVIL WE KNOW (MCAIN) TO THE DEVIL WE DON'T! And that's the way it will be folks-you'll see!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Shame on you Americans. If these posts are anything to go by, you really have the audacity to be invading and occupying other countries, on the premise that they need to become more civilized. That's truly hypocritical.

Posted by: Dee, Kingston Jamaica | June 16, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Today, Mof0 is out there telling "Black men" they need to stop acting like boys and be the kind of men who take their parental responsibility seriously.

Not only does this emphasize just how Black MoF0 really is - imagine a White candidate making the same speech on father's day (not in our "post-racial" world) but it exposes the extent to which Mof0 is willing to go, to use his Race to get to that White House.


A reader tipped me off about this strange happening. Visit the site headed by "The National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America" or N'Cobra for short. Try clicking on "Get Involved" or "Commissions" - where does the link take you?

To Barry-0's official site! Now as Jeff found out, the Whois for N'Cobra.org is officially registered to N'Cobra at its Washington D.C. address, and to one Wautella Graham. The site is also linked from the Wikipedia article on Black Reparations as the "official site" of N'Cobra. In its donations request, it reads:


Yes! I pledge my support for the Reparations Movement struggle for Justice, Restitution and Reparations for the African Holocaust of Enslavement and Its Vestiges.
Who is Wautella Graham? Not only is he a Black Panther "Researcher" of African Muslim Writings he is the actual head of N'Cobra, and the last time he met with fellow Black Panthers at a Reunion (I'm not kidding), here is what he had to say:

"Reparations, without a doubt in my mind, is going to happen for African Americans," Wautella Graham, of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America (N'COBRA) declared. Graham broke the question of slavery into four major categories of involvement: the victims, the collaborators, the perpetrators, and the beneficiaries. Even immigrants and people whose ancestral line contains no slaveholders should pay reparations, Graham claims, since every American benefits from slavery. Just as non-slaveholders benefited from slavery, Graham posits that slavery victimizes free blacks to this day. "All American people are responsible to carry the debt that America owes from its history." [source]
Now the Bamboozler's take on this Black Holocaust is not known, nor are known his takes on Reparations for the Atlantic slave trade. But, he's got one wild-card, whose wildness reveals a little bit, about Obama's possible take.

In 2007, Jeremiah Wright was the keynote speaker at the N'Cobra's national conference in Philadelpia. The next conference is due the end of this month in Miami Florida, and something or other on Obama, may come out. For now, the N'Cobra site is not only linking directly to Obama, its front page includes an Action Center, filched straight off of Obama's own homepage. Here is the most I could get about the content of Wright's speech at the N'Cobra event last year:

Wright's talk, "A Call for Justice and Repair," followed a statement in which he declared that "The Biblical principle of true repentance is that the offended party is given compensation to make up for that which has been stolen from them, the losses that have been inflicted upon them and their families." [aim]
Now I don't know about you- but someone's got a lot of explaining to do. It aint just about "linking" to the Obama website- it's about Jeremiah Wright being a keynote speaker. Aint it?

According to Accuracy in the Media, Wright isn't the only prominent member of Trinty leading the N'Cobra call. Dr. Iva Carruthers, is a professor in Northeastern Illinois University, specializing on the subject of Reparations, and she was a speaker at the N'Cobra 2004 conference.

Carruthers was identified, along with Wright, as a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee. Wright has since been dropped from the group. But Carruthers is sometimes referred to as a spokesman for Wright and works with him closely. [aim]
Carruthers has a curious history with her demand for reparations-

Indeed, Carruthers may be even more controversial, especially on the issue of reparations. She wrote The Church and Reparations―An African American Perspective, which was reportedly "distributed by her denomination" at the 2001 U.N. World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance. The conference was considered so extreme that the U.S. delegation, led by then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, walked out [aim]
Read the AIM article for more juicy details. Like the fact that Carruthers donated $2300 to Obama's Presidential bid.

Posted by: Truthhurts | June 16, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Listen to his speech. He criticized absent fathers, not absent black fathers. Yes he was speaking to his own community, but the problems he was addressing are not restricted to that community.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

This web site will focus on the truth about Obama as he attempts to mislead America with his website.


http://www.obamatruth.org/

Posted by: Truthhurts | June 16, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a black but as woman, Obama is my hero.

Posted by: Sylvia Hsu | June 16, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

A QUESTION We the People need Answered:

Is Obama's whole campaign based on:
One Big Lie - CHANGE he did not make?

Obama claims 7 years experience in the Illinois legislature -(Working Across the Aisles, Bringing people together to get good CHANGES passed)-as exemplified by 26 good bills with his name on them.

A Chicago reporter says all 26 bills were passed in ONE Year and they were not Obama's.

http://wweek.com/editorial/3418/10516/

EXCERPTS:

But what's interesting, and almost never discussed, is that he built his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year.

Republicans controlled the Illinois General Assembly for six years of Obama's seven-year tenure.

Then Emil Jones Jr. (became the Senate Majority leader), He became Obama's kingmaker. Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

During his seventh year in the state Senate, Obama ... sponsored a whopping 26 bills including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced.

QUOTING from Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope":

"After two terms during which I labored in the minority, Democrats had gained control of the state senate, and I had subsequently passed a slew of bills, from reforms of the Illinois death penalty system to an expansion of the state's health program for kids. I had continued to teach at the University of Chicago Law School, a job I enjoyed, and was frequently invited to speak around town."

Obama's own words confirm the fact that Democrats were in the Majority when he claims he passed ... a slew of bills. (The governor was also a Democrat at that time) ... bringing into QUESTION ... just how much ... (working across the aisles; bringing people together), if any, ... was Necessary to the passage of those 26 bills.?

It should be relatively easy to confirm or deny whether those 26 bills were passed in one year. If they were all passed in one year that fact creates a strong appearance the legislaion did not originate with Obama; was not written by him; not his legislation - given the fact that he worked part time as a state senator, part time as a college lecturer, and part time as a speaker - leaving him with ...too little time... to do as he claims.

The Chicago reporter's claim those bills were not Obama's is sourced to a talk radio host providing information that he claims came to him directly from Emil Jones.


The reporter's claim "...angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills" -is subject to verification by two or more Illinois State Senators whose legislation was assigned to Obama by Emil Jones.

IF the Reporter's claims are accurate then Obama is a FAKE, FALSE, FRAUD as a candidate for any public office - unfit for public office.

Posted by: elme13 | June 16, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Know why you heard words like cracker, honkey and whitey on shows like the Jefferson and All in the Family? Because those shows were written by white people! If they had put just one black writer on staff, they would have learned that the only people who say stuff like that are white people pretending to be black!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

What is this criticizing black fathers and not all fathers? Race of color has nothing to do with being a good or bad father. I conceder myself white even though I am of mixed racil decent. I worked for years for a major American railroad. I worked on the tracks with very many men and three women. Two of the women were good workers and the other wasn't. The men I worked with and for and for me were of every race, color and ethnic background. Most of them were fathers. When a person works with someone for weeks, months, and years you get to know them pretty well. I saw very little difference between men in their concern and involvement in their families. I have seen very good and very bad fathers in all races. I can now see that I was involved in my job and neglected my family. I thought at the time that being a good provider was more important then my presents and interaction with my childern. I was wrong but I can't go back and redo what I did, but I can tell you of the pitfalls of putting material gain ahead of nurturing your children. When it comes to kids you have one chance. If you don't do it right the first time there is no going back and doing it over. And another thing the average man without an education does not make a wage that would allow him to keep a family as well as they could live on welfare. I have seen many young coples that have postpned getting married because they just coulden't afford the expense of having a child and chose to let Medicaid pay for it. Don't we have a fine country where the politicians preach morels and the government neglects the people?

Posted by: Old Coot | June 16, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Obama said these men "have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men.
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just like obama abandon his friends when the pressure was to much. he doublespeak out both sides of his mouth

Posted by: truthhurts | June 16, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Hey White and [NOT] right, I am sure your friends Bill and Hillary shared your sentiment that Obama could not win. How did that work out for them again?

Posted by: Black and Bitter like Coffee | June 16, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Yo dog, you is be wishing yous could go'ed to Cornell. Ni99er please!

GO BIG RED

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

white folk think they can comment on the lives of black people when it's clear they have no clue. who is so stupid to believe that in 2008 blacks say "whitey"? you could spend a week secretly spying on the blacks who hate whites and you would never hear one of them say "whitey."

That's like a Brit claiming there's a tape of Jeff Foxworthy saying he has to raise the the "bonnet" of his car and check the "boot" for a jack.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

white folk think they can comment on the lives of black people when it's clear they have no clue. who is so stupid to believe that in 2008 blacks say "whitey"? you could spend a week secretly spying on the blacks who hate whites and you would never hear one of them say "whitey."

That's like a Brit claiming there's a tape of Jeff Foxworthy saying he has to raise the the "bonnet" of his car and check the "boot" for a jack.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

white folk think they can comment on the lives of black people when it's clear they have no clue. who is so stupid to believe that in 2008 blacks say "whitey"? you could spend a week secretly spying on the blacks who hate whites and you would never hear one of them say "whitey."

That's like a Brit claiming there's a tape of Jeff Foxworthy saying he has to raise the the "bonnet" of his car and check the "boot" for a jack.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

white folk think they can comment on the lives of black people when it's clear they have no clue. who is so stupid to believe that in 2008 blacks say "whitey"? you could spend a week secretly spying on the blacks who hate whites and you would never hear one of them say "whitey."

That's like a Brit claiming there's a tape of Jeff Foxworthy saying he has to raise the the "bonnet" of his car and check the "boot" for a jack.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

The washington post sure likes to write articles to raise the temperture of race. They did this to Hillary and now in the general election. Maybe the post is part of black and white peoblems. they keep feeding the race mongers and every bites. when people start posting with compassion and honest dialogue, this paper will no longer post articles meant to fan the flames of hate

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

i have never ever heard a black person refer to a white person as whitey or cracker except of television. i've been privy to race related conversations in barbershops, schools, and church sunday school rooms. i've had conversations on basketball courts, and board rooms of black owned businesses.

i've heard 'white boy'...

friend:
yo dog, why you bring that white boy with you to the go-go?

me:
my bad. i didn't know this was a blacks only party.

friend:
oh, you got jokes. is he cool?

me:
would he be with me if he wasn't?

i've heard 'white folk'...

friend:
yo dog, why white folk stare when i walk across the street?

me:
because you dress like the thugs they see in gangster rap videos so they think you are one. they don't know you went to Cornell.

friend:
n***a please!

Posted by: ProfWrightBSU | June 16, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

This comment board has been infested with racists trying out for the Ku Klux Klan, or just poseurs imagining themselves to be skinheads.

Obama gives a powerful speech to a black audience, telling them that they should not blame racism for their ills. And then a bunch of white bigots (or those posing as such) make racist remarks.

Do yourself and the the world a favor and jump in a lava pit.

Posted by: Elrod | June 15, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

obama gave a great speech today and he was right on. Black men have used black women as sexual tools to satisfy their needs and than run off. That is why one woman may have 5 different daddy's for sven children. I am surprised he did not focus on the rap industry that treats black women as sex slaves. White people do not have to raise a finger to harm the black community. Blacks are destroying their own race. They choose drugs, sex, and killing over an education. Obama should have said more about blacks sitting on their butts waiting for gov't handouts in staed of going to school. He should have focused on the facts that blacks with the help of gov't programs have created thier miserable exisistence. He needs to give all blacks a swift kick in the pants, so they will be productive citizens. Go Obama.

Posted by: Reality check | June 15, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

To Dave... I think the incentives e.g. tax deductions or credits provided to dependent children is part of the government incentive program for people to reproduce more. Probably part of the unintended consequence is that it created a group of dependents among single mothers (not all single mothers are government dependents, but there are a group of single mothers who are). To disincentivize this, I would suggest that the government remove the tax deductions or credits for dependents.

I don't know the statistics, but it seems that there are more black single mothers who depend on the government for subsidies than any other ethnicities. This is a perception that many share, and I wonder if the statistics would debunk this belief.

Posted by: VVV | June 15, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

So what do you "balcks" call white people? Want to know what we call you? I'll give you a hint, it starts with an "N".>>


Thanks. I had no idea!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

>>thanks for telling us u call whites stupid white people. also, blacks call whitey, cracker, honky.>>

no they don't you stupid coot! those names are 40 years old and so out of date. when blacks make derrogatory comments about whites they simply say "white folk x, y, z" or "white people are X, Y, Z."

Yes, many black don't like white people but "whitey" simply is not a word used by black people.

That's why I know this was a lie dreamed up by a white person who knows no black people.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

black people don't call whites "whitey." that proves that this is just a lie dreamed up by some stupid white person who has never spent any time around black people. that word simply isn't used by anybody under 70 and only 2-3 people over 70!
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thanks for telling us u call whites stupid white people. also, blacks call whitey, cracker, honky. blacks r bigga racists then whites and hispanics.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Why oh why cannot the Washington Post afford to figure out a way to require participants in these comments to register?

Since so many other media outlets have such a system, this has become an "attractive nuisance" for racists and mischief-making kids, among others.

Fix it!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

He is part of the problem.... Teaching Victim mentality..speeches with no heart no action... he looked like bush .. a fish out of water.

Posted by: Robinhood | June 15, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Kind of Sad seeing fellow Americans at each others throats, im sure theres a big party happening in some cave in Afghanistan. Wake up, theres bigger fish to fry. All this petty bickering isn't going to help this Country. You should be American first, whatever else after, be it religion,race,financial status,e.t.c.

Wake up its this kind of behavior that got Pres. Bush his second term and put us in this mess, i wont be surprised to see President McCain in November, after all its not the first time America has shot itself in the foot.

Posted by: Human | June 15, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Why can't Obama and Michelle go to a church that white and blacks go to.

It isn't just absent black fathers, it is teaching the black fathers not to murder their own kind, their own flesh and blood like mad gorillas running through the jungle. It is teaching them not to steal, murder and rape others. blacks are the majority of criminals who do that. There is no way the blacks will change, it is in their nature.

Indeed, very few blacks even get married. Having Obama as President will encourage crime even more. Blacks need to have their own President, their own land like the Jews. There are two many disparities in the races. We are not alike. We are equal, but we have different characteristics as our emotions, types of food we eat and metabolism. Most whites do not want to be mixed. Most blacks want to mix with us. Sad.

Posted by: WISE OWL 1 | June 15, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

The above article stated that Obama said that too many black fathers are "missing from too many lives and too many homes." If Clinton or McCain said exactly the same statement, I could almost be certain that they would be called racists. So, when is such statements racist and when it is not? Or we have different standards?

Posted by: CP Cook | June 15, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

So what do you "balcks" call white people? Want to know what we call you? I'll give you a hint, it starts with an "N".

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

black people don't call whites "whitey." that proves that this is just a lie dreamed up by some stupid white person who has never spent any time around black people. that word simply isn't used by anybody under 70 and only 2-3 people over 70!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Barry Hussein will invade Pakistan? He said as much last summer. This is the "audacity of hope" on his part.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | June 15, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama's childhood mentor, was a communist named Frank Marshall Davis. Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature in his book. On the wall of his Houston campaign office, a Cuban flag with a picture of Communist mass murderer Che Guevara is displayed.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

What Obama fails to mention is how the government is complicit in this whole "absentee black father" issue. In supporting black children born out of wedlock, Uncle Sam has replaced black fathers - even made them an afterthought to black women.

Blacks must understand that the government will not solve their problems. I am not black; I am Hispanic. But, I have lived in black communities my entire life. The generation of black adults who I grew up with held themselves with dignity and had pride in hard work. Today's Black culture, however, rationalizes black on black crime, poor academic performance, self-destructive personal behavior, and despicable role models. Obama grew up with whites; he doesn't seem to understand how the likes of Rev. Wright and the Trinity Church undermine the message of self-reliance.

Posted by: David | June 15, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Today's speech was the white side of obamamama talking. That side hates black men because his arab daddy ran out on him. This is his campaign to get more whity votes by showing how bad he thinks black daddy's are. Let's look for a bounce in the polls.

Posted by: Truthhurts | June 15, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I love the fact that this is turning into a black against white race war and not about the issues. The whites in this country will get tired of this really quick and Mr Obama will go back to his seat in the senate as the Black man who COULD have been president.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Sandy writes: Mark my words, "whiteygate" will be explosive. Michelle Obama will sink her husband's campaign.
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You seem thrilled about the prospect of such a thing. Your man Roger Stone floated the idea around June 1:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EZjoqq62oKU&feature=related

then had to retract it on June 2, said that this rumored tape may be "wishful thinking":

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E10kTPMyFJU

Since then, nothing. So, other than the nattering on Fox News, what makes you think such a tape exists?

You never know what might turn up, but what kind of sicko would wish this on anybody?

Posted by: JohnD | June 15, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

So, Obama daddy left him and he was raised by a step and he sits on his high horse and critizes black men. He never had it hard. Paid for private schools, hand-picked chicago to start his political career. He has not walked in a black man's shoes in this country. He has a silver spoon in his mouth, making millions on his book, the one he used Rev Wright for and then tossed a brother over the side. Now, he wants to tell blacks what to do, and tell people how to live. What an a-hole. We don't need a flippin daddy in the white house. Why do he think he is better than us.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

(Standing ovation) for the lengthy piece posted. That was very well stated, very clear.

Without bias, Obama deserves credit today on that message, hands down. Many of us acknowledge the truth in what he said Needs To Be Done. We are in agreement On That, even if you aren't in favor of him fighting on the issues we are against or on his stances. We commonly agree on what was stated today. What a gift.

On this note, Happy Fathers Day dads! =)

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Fathers in any situation, even their absence, have an undeniable impact on their children. I hope my father who left when I was two will hear this message. I am not broken because of his absence, in many ways it made me stronger. However I pray that my children will have a father who supports them, who teaches them, and who loves them unconditionally- as God loves each of us.
I believe that Senator Obama's message is not meant to put down single parents, or gay parents for that matter, instead it is a hope for our nation. A plea to our nation. Obama's speech is a reminder that it is important for the government to play in active role in the family, but the real change comes from individuals choosing to make a difference, choosing to make a change.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I hope McCain has a GPS in his doodie-stained drawers so Cindy can find him when he gets lost in the middle of the night going to the bathroom for number 2.

Posted by: freerider | June 15, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

EddienTexas

Wow you have a way of misinterpreting my comments. I am a life long democrat and never said anything about our troops. You have to admit Eddie that is hypocritical for man to lecutre everyone else about being a good father when he clearly neglects his own young kids.

Posted by: mountain man | June 15, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Is anybody here stupid enough to belive that Lakisha is really black? This is an anti-Obama troll trying to rile up resentment?

Diane is also not white. He/she posts anti-black things to anger blacks.

Why anybody would take anything seriously on this board is beyond me.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

You people can mock me all you like. But remember my words when Michelle Obama is caught pilfering the White House antiques.

Posted by: Dianne72 | June 15, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Lakisha is the poster child why Blacks will f*ck up Obama's chances to be President.

In their racist ignorance they will gloat and try to use his nomination to "show whitey" and piss off white Americans like me who currently will still vote for Obama anyway because I believe he is the best man.

Thanks to Lakisah and Trinity Untied Church of jumping-up-and-down-and-cheering black racists , I now have a much better understanding of Black people than I did before and enjoy even more not being around any of them here in Mexico.

Posted by: Roy | June 15, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72 said:

"Why is it that most of the criminals in this country are black? I think it comes done to basic genetics. Look at Africa, most countries are corupt and run by eveil dictators and most of the population there is black. I don't think it is a coincidence..."

My vocabulary isn't broad enough to accurately describe how idiotic that is. Crime is directly related to socio-economic conditions. Yes, black men are disproportionately incarcerated in this country, but it's not as simple as you are trying to make it. Since you seem to have an obsession with blacks and larceny, why don't you do some research. Take a college-level class in criminology instead of just spouting ignorant garbage. You might even meet some blacks who won't steal your lunch money.

Posted by: Dilireus | June 15, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I see some seeking fathering advice and support. One resource is the National Fatherhood Initiative, a non-profit non-partisan organization.

http://www.fatherhood.org/

Posted by: Gerald | June 15, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

The speech was brilliant. It may have been directed at a particular audience but, like all great sermons, the themes were universal. This middle-aged white male was greatly impressed. After 8 years of George W., I had forgotten what leadership sounded like.

God bless you, President-to-be Obama.

Posted by: godblessusa | June 15, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I feel the same but this guy has worded it so well, I am reposting it to bubble it up so that many more can read..wake up people "See the bigger picture"

Posted by: charles | June 15, 2008 8:28 PM

Almost everyone who has left messages here seems to be guilty of broad (and often inaccurate) generalizations, unsubstantiated accusations, personal attacks, and other uncivilized conversation unbecoming a nation of our stature. Let us not forget that we, as a people, despite the practical ramifications of an electoral college, a representative government, and so on, have a direct, vested interest in who our next leader will be. By extension, so does the rest of the world; after all, we are the leaders of the free world, so to speak, and we should carry ourselves in such a manner.

That being said, practically everyone seems to have started foaming at the mouth with accusations and comments based on what can be at best termed as circumstantial evidence and at worst simply nasty rumors begun by individuals with some personal vendetta against one candidate or another. Let's back off, take a deep breath (or two or three), and look at the "big picture."

Yes, it is Father's Day. But, as has been pointed out, just because a man can impregnate a woman does not make him a father. Just because you have a day that is commercially set aside for you does not mean you can shirk your responsibilities the other 364 (in a leap year, 365) days of the year. Granted, no father (and, for that matter, no mother) can "be there" for every moment of their child's (or children's) life, but provided they are there when it counts, they shouldn't have to be. Senator Obama is making the point that for a large segment of the black community, men who should be fathering are not there even when it counts, if at all. This is not the first time such a point has been made, even by a black man. And because of our environment of "political correctness," and our irrational fear of backlash (I personally believe that if I'm not offending someone, I must be doing something wrong), many who have the right idea are afraid to say it.

Conservative or not, Democrat or not, we should take a deep breath and see this speech, this sermon, for what it can be: the beginnings of a conversation that may just be the solution the black communities nationwide have been looking for. Let's not mince words here - it is no secret that the black communities in general are in poorer shape than those of other minorities, and a major reason for that has something to do with damaged or dysfunctional families. It is high time that we all realized that the betterment of black communities everywhere will contribute to the improvement of all America, everywhere, and that we applaud those with the courage to say so.

Senator McCain may have the same idea as Senator Obama, but I feel that in part because of his age but more so because of our PC atmosphere of late, he is loath to make any remarks towards African-Americans that might possibly be misconstrued as condescending. Whatever his political leanings and ideological tendencies, the fact remains that Senator McCain is a war veteran and a POW to boot, that he stood up when his country called for him, and he is not your typical politician. Fortunately for us, neither is Senator Obama, which makes this particular election season that much more important and that much more interesting. (Having said that, they are still politicians, so it's not unreasonable for them to take certain actions for political reasons - just like one of us might distance ourselves from a crazy or otherwise disreputable relative for a while.)

So many Americans (I only assume you are Americans, but sometimes I hope I'm wrong) here seem to be blinded by their own sociopolitical worldview, by their own party affiliation, to see the "big picture." It does not matter that Senator Obama might be half white and the other half mostly Arab. If he is elected (and even if he isn't), what matters is that the system set forth by the Constitution works, that it does not discriminate, and that our experiment in democracy (for, even more than two centuries later, it is still an experiment) does indeed give a fair shot to anyone - and I mean anyone - who merits that chance.

Guilt by association is not an appropriate measure by which to judge an individual. I could assume that, by some of your comments, many of you who have posted here are white, lower to lower-middle class, male, and nominally Christian. Perhaps you hail from the South; maybe you don't. But I don't think you'd appreciate it if I judged you (indeed, that is God's job, not ours) by association and said that you all were fat, incapable of even being able to defend your own lives, much less stand up for those of others, not true followers of Christ, racist, ignorant, lower-than-average IQ, inbred, and whatever other fallacious remarks that come to mind. Some of it might be true; I'm certain that most of it isn't. I'm giving you, as a fellow American, the benefit of the doubt. I suggest you all give our two presidential candidates the same.

Posted by: jt | June 15, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Never mind the fathers. There would not be fathers if it were not for the mothers with five children. Glue your knees together, grow up to see fifteen years of age without getting pregnant, get your high school diploma.

We are tired of supporting your butts. Stop screwing and start working already.

Posted by: francis | June 15, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words, "whiteygate" will be explosive. Michelle Obama will sink her husband's campaign.

Posted by: Sandy | June 15, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

A lot of posters here are sitting in their mother's basement in their underwear in Frederick or West Virginia or someplace like that.

Posted by: Ted | June 15, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Who would have thought that blogs at The Washington Post would turn into nothing more than a bunch of hate filled racist rants.

What a shame

Posted by: Tina | June 15, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

My friends! My friends! My friends! My friends! My friends! My friends! My friends!

Ooops, I forgot what I was going to say--and I made a big doodie in my Depends

Posted by: John McCain | June 15, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

>>"Faith of My Fathers" is a far more compelling book than "Dreams of my father". The former brings a life time of experience of a courageous man. Compared to that, the latter is almost charming>>

Since it was written by McCain's lackey Mark Salter (not McCain) I don't see why it's relevant or an apt comparison. McCain is too dumb to write anything besides a check on Cindy's account!

Posted by: carolinagirl | June 15, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Ziggy1 - His real name is Barack Hussein Obama II. He was named for his father. Do a Google search for "Obama Birth Certificate". You're just spouting a Republican lie.

When will people learn that the Republican Party will say and do anything to get power. They don't care about anyone who isn't filthy rich. Haven't you learned anything from the past 7 years? Have any of you McCain supporters actually looked at his proposals? 100 years in Iraq. Tax breaks for corporations. Indefinite detention. More scare tactics. Please, for the sake of the country, open your eyes. And stop watching Fox News. It's propaganda, NOT journalism.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a gross, smelly old man who can't tell what day it is. He only eats soft crackers and applesauce with his old yellow teeth.

And why is he always flicking his old skeevy tounge around in his halitosis-scented mouth around like a lizard?

His skin is lizard-y looking too . . . gross.

Posted by: freerider | June 15, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Richard Simons,

I agree too bad an IQ test isnt required to comment here LOL

Posted by: EddienTexas | June 15, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

"Faith of My Fathers" is a far more compelling book than "Dreams of my father". The former brings a life time of experience of a courageous man. Compared to that, the latter is almost charming.

Posted by: Lohengrin | June 15, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama was right, Black Men are problems

Posted by: Nick | June 15, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I take comfort knowing that most of the posters on here will surely not vote. I bet most of you mouthbreathers don't have a picture ID or the means to obtain one, have never registered and are probably too obese to leave the house any longer, let alone from your greasy keyboards.

Posted by: Richard Simmons | June 15, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

mountain man,

I take it that any father who neglects his children by running for office is unfit..

I am sure all the men and women who chose to serve in the military and knew they would be seperated from their children are unfit also by your sleezy Republican standard.

But you sure love the freedom they give you!

Some people make me SICK!

Posted by: EddienTexas | June 15, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

While Obama is preaching sermons and devising moral platforms, as he is in favor of Partial-Birth Abortions, and voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, he might want to consider his own morality, and the risk to his soul.

Posted by: lightnin | June 15, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama continues his string of ABSOLUTELY ON-POINT, TOTALLY TRUE and RIGHT-ON comments.

Too many fathers are absent, and too many are uninvolved.

Thank you, Barack. You will be a great President.

Posted by: POed Lib | June 15, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

For Wang:

And you say African-Americans are unfamiliar with Africa? If any, look into your own Africa credentials. I said most African-Americans follow monogamy, that is, one marriage. Deriving from African customs, multiple partners and families are another matter. In addition to checking your "hate index," you've a lot of reading to do.

Posted by: Ed Palsey | June 15, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Listen To Me said:

"Hey, lets talk about Obama raising taxes during a near recession instead of this back and forth over racism - its really pointless. Black folks will vote for Obama as seen in South Carolina, and only college educated white folks will vote for Obama. That's the way it way it is and its not going to change - the real challenge is winning the remaining 40% or so of the country."

You sound like a nice smart Republican. Where do you think we should get the money for the ongoing fiasco in Iraq, to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, and to pay back the massive national debt we've incurred on Bush's watch? How will McCain's plan to give more tax breaks to the rich and to corporations help? Should we just borrow more money from the Chinese? Does someone really need to explain basic accounting to you? Obama's plan calls for corporations and rich people to pay more taxes. It doesn't call for the 90% of us who live paycheck-to-paycheck to pay more. Trying finding the truth before you spread Republican-sourced propaganda.

While you're at it, think about why college-educated people tend to be more liberal than people who don't go to college. Could it be because college forces people to think for themselves? Could it be that people learn more about the world around them in college than people who end their education after high school (or before)? Why is it that so many with minimal education believe that the people who devote time and energy to higher learning don't know anything?

Posted by: Dilireus | June 15, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

For Wang:

And you say African-Americans are unfamiliar with Africa? If any, look into your own Africa credentials. I said most African-Americans follow monogamy, that is, one marriage. Derviving from African customs, multiple partners and families are another matter. In addition to checking your "hate index," you've a lot of reading to do.

Posted by: Ed Palsey | June 15, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

This whole speech was pandering at its worst. Leave it to Obama to take the "Happy" out of Happy Fathers Day.

Posted by: jh | June 15, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"marraige was created for a man and woman to perpetuate the human race."

That's was what the sex part accomplishes.

"I believe that when science creates a way for same sex couples to procreate then that would be the day we legalize same sex marraige"

They can, with sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

"maybe we should abolish marraige as we know it and revert to paganism"

Pagans have marriage rituals, too. And kids.

Their Spring Fertility Rites are probably more fun than Easter, tho.

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 15, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse


Wow...but how will it play in Philadelphia? Bill Cosby now has a friend.

I for one am glad to hear Senator Obama work to establish a moral platform. We all can use a little coaching. And, the support of a government willing to stand by its families.

Chose Hope & Dreams.

Live Free.
Ricky Galileo

Posted by: Ricky Galileo | June 15, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama said the right thing, mostly. I am also uncomfortable with politicians delivering "Sermons".

Posted by: Lohengrin | June 15, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

I noticed that one of the commentors on this sight noted that Obama is white and black and thats what makes him wonderful for the country. Dear madam or sir Obama had two options to propel him into the limelight as a politican. He could have stayed with his given name of Barry Soterro (not sure of spelling) and eventually would have ended up a mediocre perhaps not even senator politician. He carefully took the more practical route and chose his black roots appropriately changed his name to Barack Hussien Obama, got the backing of the most crooked politcal machine in America in the most crooked city Chicago. The rest is history.

Posted by: Ziggy1 | June 15, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

George Robertson wrote: ..."Thank goodness we may now have Obama as president, who can address these things honestly without fear of being called a racist."
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does Obama BABYSIT??

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I am an older white guy who voted for Bush and ended up being greatly disappointed on several levels with him. I will probably vote for McCain in November. But I will not be disappointed if Obama wins. He needs a few more years under his belt, in my view, but if that is the will of the people so be it. I will respect and support him and the office he holds unless he, as Bush did, does something to violate that trust.

Posted by: Peter | June 15, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Children can get by without a father if they have people in their lives who set an example, by the way they live. It doesn't help if the child has a mother, if the mother is out running around with different men, going to clubs, etc. It doesn't help if the child has a father who is doing the same, even if he's not in jail. If the parents are acting like children themselves, how can you expect children to grow up into adults? Half the time when you hear about someone being shot in these neighborhoods, the person is someplace or at some hour when no decent person would be at that place at any hour, much less at 2 am or something. Thank goodness we may now have Obama as president, who can address these things honestly without fear of being called a racist.

Posted by: George Robertson | June 15, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA == THE HAPPENING

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

The comments on this article are reaching Youtube levels of stupidity, ignorance, and hatread. And all sides--Obama supporters, McCain supporters, and "None of the Above" supporters--are guilty of spewing garbage.

Folsk, we're better than this.

Posted by: Tirade | June 15, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

While it is true that black fathers don't "engage" with their daughters enough, they certainly make it up by fuc*ing them with great regularity.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

"It isn't up to men whether or not they stay in the home! It's up to the selfish WOMEN who file over 70% of divorces. Fathers in this country have no rights or authority, and treated as criminals by the "family court system." Don't rob men of the power to raise their kids and then continue to blame them for what irresponsible women do."

Wow, this is a really interesting passage. Have... to... deconstruct.

Men aren't responsible for staying in the home or not.

Men don't stay at home because Women file the divorces (70%).

Fathers have no rights or authority.

Men are treated like criminals in the family court system.

...rob men of the power to raise their kids ...blame them ...what irresponsible women do

Okay, I think that there is a problem that some people have in their personal lives with their relationships and that spills over to their roles as parents and fathers. When parents fight with each other in court, it affects the kids. Lawyers and bitter spouses can abuse the legal system to punish the spouses via their rights to the kids. That is bad.

I think that Obama was more speaking to people who voluntarily drop out of school, leave the family for selfish reasons.

But it sounds like you know of a tough situation that was a little different than that, a problem with the legal system and losing rights to kids. Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 15, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I believe that marraige is a right granted to consenting adults of the opposite sex, same sex, brothers and sisters, fathers and sons, owners and pets (as long as the pet is over one year old and is neutered),drivers and their cars, gardeners and there plants and all animals including birds and insects. We are all living creatures and have the right to be with anything and anyone we want whether they are dead or alive.

If we are going to make a mockery of marraige by legalizing same sex marraige we may as well go all the way.

I have no problem with Lesbians or Homosexuals however through the course of time, marraige was created for a man and woman to perpetuate the human race. I believe that when science creates a way for same sex couples to procreate then that would be the day we legalize same sex marraige or maybe we should abolish marraige as we know it and revert to paganism

Posted by: ziggy1 | June 15, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

To Dilireus

Yes i think John Edwards is also a bad father. I don't think anyone with small children should be running for president because the demands of the campaign are 24/7. It is not possible to be a good national candidate and dad at the same time. Obama has shown his priorites are power not his family and he has the nerve to lecture everyone else. Give me a break. Maybe if he waited till his kids were older it would be different.

Posted by: mountain man | June 15, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Jackie, I think Obama will make a great president. You may not think he is black enough for you; he is not white enough for others posting here but he is still the most qualified candidate.

Posted by: G8tr | June 15, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama is WHITE and BLACK. He IS America, and will be a gift to the world, after 7 years of the Bush administration, any way you slice it!! (What a breath of fresh air, and I, an old white man, am greatly looking forward to it.

Obama, I will be so proud to have you representing this country-- Keep rising above the crap, and telling us what we NEED to hear!!

Posted by: MelB | June 15, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I am a dad of two young boys in DC. I am employed and in their life. But I think I am not doing as good a job as I can, and am not sure what to do about it.

Posted by: Troubled Dad | June 15, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey, lets talk about Obama raising taxes during a near recession instead of this back and forth over racism - its really pointless. Black folks will vote for Obama as seen in South Carolina, and only college educated white folks will vote for Obama. That's the way it way it is and its not going to change - the real challenge is winning the remaining 40% or so of the country.

Posted by: Listen To Me | June 15, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama-- you are a brilliant man that leads by example. Keep telling the truth, as hard as it is for some of us to hear--we need to keep hearing it!

Throw that PC stuff right out the window. If things are ever going to change for real, we need to be brutally honest, not politically correct and FAKE.

Love the message--

SET HIGH STANDARDS and your kids will rise to meet them, set no standards, and well, they will meet those too.

Posted by: Jack | June 15, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that those who need to hear Obama's comments are not listening or cannot read. They sure as hell are not following discussions on washingtonpost.com. They are listening to MC Pee Pants or Snoop Diddy or Tupak Whatever dissing women.

Posted by: Bert | June 15, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama spoke of his life without a Father. I'm African American and I had my Father in my life and he was my hero. I had the support and guidance of my Father until he died. I'm a better person because of him. Each American has their own experiences with their parents. Obama has a unique life as a 47 year old African American. Obama's Father came to the US on a scholarship and arrived by plan. After getting a college education he went back to Kenya by plane. Most African Americans have parents, grandparents and great grandparents who lived in the USA. Our ancestors came to the USA by boats and were slaves. The stories of the struggle for African Americans is totally different then Senator Obama's.

Posted by: Jackie | June 15, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Man has no respect, talking to us like dropout daddies on a Sunday.

Interrupted a perfectly good rant about how Jews were behind 9/11 so white America would have an excuse for genocide.

Posted by: Rev. Wrong | June 15, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

WaPo has turned into a toilet. What a bloody shame.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

now i know why all the people in M. Night Shyamalan's _THE HAPPENING_ killed themselves!!!....

..they listened to O's father day speech!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Juliet Eilperin

Correction: "you're gorgeous"

Posted by: jflynnj5@yahoo.com | June 15, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

To all of you who have posted unsavory comments, please know I have reported you.

Posted by: Bob | June 15, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The perfect message for fathers on Father's Day. Particularly the absent ones.

Posted by: Concernedaboutdc | June 15, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Juliet Eilperin

Saw you on the PBS program "Week In Review;" your gorgeous. . .I fell in love, but you did miss pronounce the word, "assiduous." Check your dictionary.

Posted by: jflynnj5@yahoo.com | June 15, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

This "million man march" rip-off speech by Obama is a cynical ploy by him to ingratiate himself to white voters, a totally manufactured "Sister Souljah" moment to distance himself from continued talk about his connection to liberationist theology. For those posters here who say "oh, how can you be so cynical when our prophet speaks?" we say that the cynicism and race-based campaigning is all coming from the Obama side.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 15, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

this is the worst father's day speech i have ever heard..!!!..why upbraid..?

...is this what we can expect IF HE IS ELECTED???

OMG!!!..then M Night Shyamalan', _THE HAPPENING_.. will become reality!..

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama ha a great understanding of people. When he is president he will help the lives of the people who think they are belittling him on this website. He is compassionate and honorable and will make a great president. His speech shows great incite into the American experience.

Posted by: RG | June 15, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

to lakisha, what is the american dream a black man swimming back to africa with a jew on each arm

Posted by: phil | June 15, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I am not an Obama supporter since I truly believe he is too inexperienced, extremely far left, and naive when it comes to foreign affairs and taxation. I also beleive that he very subtly injected and will continue to inject race into the campaign.

Having said all of that, it was a brilliant move to give a sermon on the merits of father hood on fathers day. I'm sure that he gained a few million supporters as honest John McCain continues to stumble. Like him or not the man is smooth or maybe too smooth?

Posted by: ziggy1 | June 15, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

What an asinine group of comments -- the majority of them anyway. Really elevates the political discussion -- nothing more uplifting than an insult-hurling contest between dueling camps of racists. I'm amazed some of you can operate a computer or know the Washington Post exists. No wonder this country is in a mess -- stupidity gets what stupidity deserves!

Posted by: Disgusted | June 15, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

What a gift to deliver for Fathers Day. What a truthful message.

Parental Responsibility
Standards
Engagement in Childrens' Activities/Learning etc.

I agree wholeheartedly. Don't stop speaking truth Obama!

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

lakisha are black or white you tend to FLIP-FLOP FLIP- FLOP

Posted by: phil | June 15, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

How is this sermon televised? I thought the guy was just going to church to give a sermon, how was it broadcast all over the country? Why was it broadcast all over the country? Did Trinity share their video camera with him or did he bring the news media with him for fun? Does this mean that McCain has equal time with this church? Do we get to see his sermon on .... Independence Day?

Posted by: Lynn E | June 15, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Lakisha wrote: ''...keep it up white boy... when we take over it will be you kissing my black behind! PONIT BLAINK!..

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either Lakisha is MUGABE or one of his dozens of spurned wives!... sheesh...

hey Lakisha, i am asian...chuckle!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Edmund G. Palsey, I'm sorry, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "Most African Americans follow monogamy"? Then how come there are so many kids with different fathers around? And second, what do African Americas have to do with Africa? Practically ZERO. 90% of them can't even find Africa on a map, so to try and to excuse their behavior on traditional African customs is incredibly dumb.

Posted by: Wang | June 15, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama has the ability to lead and the modesty to be taken seriously by those who are capable of thought. He has the integrity, competence and independence that has been missing in the White House for a long time.

Posted by: Gator-ron | June 15, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

hey diane 72 the way your talking get off no tweens or teeny boppers here just thirtysomethings or older

Posted by: phil | June 15, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

mountain man wrote: "You totally missed the point. I have no problem with Obama's background or race or anything. I have a big problem with his arrogant holier then though attitude. I mean who is he to lecture us when he is clearly neglecting his own family. Race has nothing to do with it, its just another example of the many hypocracies of BHO."

Can we expect the same tortured analysis of John McCain's behavior from you? And what makes you think he's neglecting his family? Because he's a US Senator and is running for president? Does that make all the other presidential candidates with children bad fathers, too? How about all of the fathers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. Are they neglecting their families as well?

I don't understand your point here. He admitted he's not perfect, which is something George Bush has NEVER done despite all the evidence to the contrary. All Obama is saying is that people need to take responsibility for their children. They need to "man up". How is that being arrogant? Should he just ignore all inconvenient cultural and societal problems? It takes guts to say what he said.

Posted by: Dilireus | June 15, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

to diane 72 are you BI-POLAR

Posted by: DAVE | June 15, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama's thought police are already policing the blogosphere.

Be careful what you say.

Posted by: Former Communist | June 15, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

keep it up white boy... when we take over it will be you kissing my black behind! PONIT BLAINK!

Posted by: Lakisha | June 15, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

He's going to lose so badly.

Posted by: Kacoo | June 15, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Lakisha wrote:" all white folks are ignorent and racist. that can't stand to see the black man get ahead. just wait cause we taking over....

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either Lakisha is a pseudonym for MUGABE..or it is a joke..

FACT: african americans are only 12 percent of the US population..

and as a non-mugabe: why aren't the other minorities, like Latinos (%20 of US population, and other minorities, ever mentioned by O or spike lee (hey! spike! lotsa latinos fought in WWII..)..

but..then, again, we know the Mugabes' agendas..

chuckle

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Most African-Americans are Christians and follow monogamy. Still, unsurprisingly, traditional African customs survive including multiple, as they say today, "partners" and families. Thus, the question for African-American men addressed by Sen. Obama may be "which partner" and "which family." This isn't easy to reconcile; it requires far more than a well intentioned talk from Sen. Obama and/or Bill Cosby. Nevertheless, at least they're trying.

Posted by: Rev. Edmund G. Palsey | June 15, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Dianne 72 We know you are not a racist. You are a cretin, and you are too old for hormone replacement.

Posted by: G8tr | June 15, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

"Please forgive me of my earlier racist posts. I apologize for writing comments that were so vile and offensive.

To everyone I offended, please forgive me.

Posted by: Dianne72 |"

Forgiven. Sometimes we just have misunderstandings, that's all. Life is an ongoing learning process, and we can discover more o ourselves by learning of others =)

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Phil, boy are you an intelligent person.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is elected, US blacks will be held to a higher standard.

Posted by: Twice burned | June 15, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

We should limit this discussion to those in the 'hood. You all out there in the suburbs with your Chuck E Cheese, Fuddruckers, and Silver Diners don't know what is happening in the inner city.

Posted by: Tyrone | June 15, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

to lakisha , you are so right oh by the way you know why aspirin is white. YOU WANT IT TO WORK DONT YOU

Posted by: phil | June 15, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Right, because Cheney lets Bush make so many off the cuff speeches

This is Obama at his best. Speeches, sermons, what's the difference? As long as there is ample time for preparation...

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

to whoever wrote the 9:11 post. You totally missed the point. I have no problem with Obama's background or race or anything. I have a big problem with his arrogant holier then though attitude. I mean who is he to lecture us when he is clearly neglecting his own family. Race has nothing to do with it, its just another example of the many hypocracies of BHO.

Posted by: mountain man | June 15, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

"Marriage has profound effects on the quality of life for black kids. A data analysis report on marriage released by the Heritage Foundation highlights several benefits of marriage. For example, marriage dramatically reduces the incidence of poverty for women who remain romantically involved with the father from the time of the child's birth. Marriage reduces the odds that a mother and child will live in poverty by more than 70 percent. If mothers remain single and unemployed, they will remain poor permanently; if single and employed at least part-time, slightly more than half will slip below the poverty line; and only 10 percent of mothers will sink into poverty if employed full-time. Moreover, marriage combined with part-time maternal employment increases family income by 75 percent. Sadly, over 80 percent of long-term child poverty occurs in broken or never-married families."

There is a direct correlation between single parent homes and poverty and a correlation between poverty and poor education and violent crime...

That is why he said it... give the man a break.. give Bill Cosby a break also.. He is just telling it like it is.

Posted by: WhyHeDidIt | June 15, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

all white folks are ignorent and racist. that can't stand to see the black man get ahead. just wait cause we taking over.

Posted by: Lakisha | June 15, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

One thing that has helped my marriage and fatherhood is having an affair. It reduces my stress and makes it easier for me to be closer and more honest with my family.

Posted by: Ron | June 15, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Dianne 72 It matters whether you capitalize in the case of Christian and American because it shows the respect that from the nature of your posts you lack for yourself, let alone your supposed religion and your country.

I suspect that property values dropped when you arrived but your ability at self examination is limited.

Posted by: G8tr | June 15, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

"I will say it again and again, black people need to take responsibility for their actions and stop stealing, selling drugs and having children out of wedlock. It's no wonder that the majority of the criminal in prison are black.

Posted by: Dianne72 |"

You are correct, in terms of this certain group who execute this behavior within this entire population of people. However, you are half correct on the reasoning of the population in prison; there is more to it beyond those who contribute with their own actions. (Cheers)

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72: racist

Posted by: nonagon | June 15, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

At the same time, let us not be too hard on fathers that do not measure up to the ideal.

Posted by: BJ Clinton | June 15, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness! So many mistakes in my previous post. I should review first and slow down. Well, I'm sure the point is still understood, but my oh my.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

What has John McCain done to deserve to be president? Can someone please answer that for me?

Posted by: | June 15, 2008 9:07 PM

Simple he was a crappy soldier who got caught, then got tortured. Apparently being a victim is the new qualification for presidency.

I'm sure when he fails us with foreign policy all we will here is about how its the Vietnamese fault and he is a victim.

John McCain = Victim and chief.

Posted by: Reality | June 15, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Pee Wee is right. Fathers have to think about the consequences of their actions.

Posted by: Elliot | June 15, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

mountain man wrote:

"Do as I say not as I do huh Obama. How many meals do you think he has with his kids? I'm so sick of his arrogance!"

Yeah, how dare that uppity negro get an education at schools that are supposed to be reserved for rich whites. Of all the nerve. And how dare he use words with more than three syllables. That's just so elitist. Doesn't he know he shouldn't aspire to anything more than janitor?

John McCain, on the other hand, got where he is the old fashioned way: family connections. And he dumped his first wife and kids for a newer model. He's a real role model.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72. I know how easy it is to sit in front of your computer and say anything on your mind without reprisals. But to post that some or most black people steal and rob is a stupid and narrow minded opinion. As bad as a black person saying that some or most whites are bigots. Assumptions. To easy. We all have our particular quirks and are guilty of so many miss givings and such.

Posted by: Lewis | June 15, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

GREAT JOB OBAMA!!!!!!

Ignore the HATERS - there's not enough bridges in this country for them to jump off from when you SENATOR OBAMA become PRESIDENT come November.

Posted by: Tough Love | June 15, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Sascha from Europe:

I am pleased to find that you are paying attention to our politics here. I believe there is some misunderstanding. Please feel free to ask questions. However, I applaud your attempt to think (some people don't) and form an analysis. The point is, here in the United States, we have a problem backed by some statistics that according to heterosexual "relationships," children have been born to either parent (mother or father) leaves the other to bare the sole burden of taking care of the children and not persuing the role of being a parent. That is the sole issue that Obama was addressing. However, Obama focused in depth of fathers who have done this and I believe because of our Fathers Day here, so fatherhood is the theme.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

To the person who wrote this:
"As a white divorced father I am offended at Obamba. My moral ethics and fiber were taught to me long before I had children. Mr. Obamba and his generation of blacks are the problem."

Not only are you offended you're offensive. You will be very fortunate to have Obama as your president. He will be your moral compass, the one your parents failed to give to you.

Posted by: G8tr | June 15, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72, you should move to Switzerland to be around nothing but white people, because America is a land where plenty of different people live.

Wake up!!! Stop your racist hatred!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

What has John McCain done to deserve to be president? Can someone please answer that for me?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

To all fathers and potential fathers: Think with the big head, not the little head.

Posted by: Pee Wee | June 15, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to divorce and destigmatized out-of-wedlock births, a significant percentage of fatherless families are a choice - by women.

Posted by: GladToBeInVA1 | June 15, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Whether I capitialize "American" or "Christian" matters not. I do know that the little black kid that moved into my neighborhood and scratched my minivan should be locked up. I've already called the police on them once. Property values have dropped since their arrival!

Posted by: Dianne72 | June 15, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, a lot of white people have -- and will -- vote for Obama, not just the black people.

Anyone who is tired of living in a country that has been driven into the ground (i.e. the Iraq/Afghanistan fiasco, the economy, etc.) by the worst administration in this country's history, wants change.

That's why Obama has his support.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Obama supports gay marriage. A phoney insitution that will ensure millions of children have no fathers. what a hypocrite!" - Obama's Nightmare

Fundamentally Wrong !

How come a gay becomes a father?

Posted by: Heh Heh | June 15, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to divorce and destimatized out-of-wedlock births, a significant percentage of fatherless families are a choice - by women.

Posted by: GladToBeInVA1 | June 15, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Do as I say not as I do huh Obama. How many meals do you think he has with his kids? I'm so sick of his arrogance!

Posted by: mountain man | June 15, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Dianne 72: You are such a good Christian that you did not capitalize the word. Is that the first time you wrote it, did you just become a member of the faith or did you think that adding nonsense to this site would dilute the truth? Probably you do not know what I am writing about.

Whenever someone tells me what a good Christian he or she is, I cover my wallet.

Show a little respect capitalize American also.

Posted by: G8tr | June 15, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

"I'm from Europe and I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this speech
was extremely insulting towards any single-parent or non-traditional familiy in America or anywhere else and gave expression to an obviously very reactionary and patriarchal concept of "family" on the part of Obama."

Sasha in ohh so accepting Europe unmarried parents can't adopt children. Maybe you should work for rights if single parents in Europe before you come lecturing Americans.

Posted by: Julian | June 15, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

You don't stand a chance...........why do you think they call it the "WHITE HOUSE"?

Get a Real Name

Posted by: To Lakisha | June 15, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

As a white divorced father I am offended at Obamba. My moral ethics and fiber were taught to me long before I had children. Mr. Obamba and his generation of blacks are the problem.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Lakisha, JUST AS RACIST AS YOU DEAR, AND YOUR TYPICAL WHITE PERSON, RACIST HATEMONGER LOVING REV. WRIGHT GURU OBAMA IS, ALSO!

Posted by: Arrabbiato | June 15, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I agree, the individual who noted the title of this article. Why does the Washington Post put such an inflammatory title, when in fact nothing in Obama's speech was negative. And also, why is there so much hate on these posts. Its really disturbing as a Black person to come on to this website everyday to catch the news but end up seeing some comment about why Black people are mindless for voting for Obama.
What if this were Chinese candidate who got all the Chinese votes? Would you question that still? Why wouldnt take individual who is Chinese get a majority of Chinese votes? I dont understand why we are supposed to be dumb for voting for Obama. We were dumb for voting for Kerry in droves? Or Bill Clinton?

I guess were are only dumb when we vote for someone who looks like us. Right?

Posted by: Why? | June 15, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse


Obama supports gay marriage. A phoney insitution that will ensure millions of children have no fathers.

what a hypocrite.

Posted by: Obama's Nightmare | June 15, 2008 8:14 PM

WHEN DID GAY MARRIAGES START PRODUCING CHILDREN? If gay people are forced to marry straight people just to conform to society, then we have a problem.

Posted by: nkhokwe | June 15, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

White folks on here are racist. That is ok cause we are taking over in november. Just like the inventer of the peanut said, george washington carver, the black man wont be happy until he gets inside the white house.

Posted by: Lakisha | June 15, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm from Europe and I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this speech
was extremely insulting towards any single-parent or non-traditional familiy in America or anywhere else and gave expression to an obviously very reactionary and patriarchal concept of "family" on the part of Obama.

He also repeated the notion of children needing a "male figure" at their homes, which is often used against lesbian couples raising children (as well as the need of a "female figure" in the case of gay couples) - and which has been proved wrong by every single serious research work that has been done on this issue!

"But we also need families to raise our children...I know the toll it took on me, not having a father in the house...The hole in your heart when you don't have a male figure in the home who can guide you and lead you."

So he obviously thinks that single mothers cannot "guide and lead"???

It is really shocking to me that Barack Obama offends virtually every single mother and all those other families in America and the rest of the world that do not match the reactionary "family" concept and ideology cited by him.

I think it is very necessary to educate him on this issue and to speak out against the inacceptable insults he made in his speech.

Posted by: Sascha | June 15, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Ok, fc: Blacks account for more than just a "tiny" percentage of the U.S. And this thing you said about "them" being in the news "constantly" is outrageous. What planet are you from and what year are you living in? I have to say that I'm really surprised at some of the hateful things I'm reading in this blog and quite frankly I'm dissappointed in the Washington Post for letting the "personal attacks and inappropriate comments" that they state will be removed from the site actually be posted. What happened to well thought out and informed disagreement? Obviously some of these people - fc being only one example, really make people who post here seem incredibly ignorant. Fc, how about doing some reading and learn something about African Americans before you go on another inaccurate, uninformed rant!

Posted by: christine | June 15, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

WylieD wrote:

"For starters, you might want to talk with Russ Feingold, as well as Joe Lieberman, Robert Byrd, Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, Daniel Inouye, Mark Pryor, Ken Salazar, oh, and Hillary Clinton.

Don't know what this list of names means?

You Obama folks really need to get out more."

Oh, you mean like the McCain-Feingold campaign reform act? The one that he's been ignoring for months because it no longer suits his needs? What a hypocrite.

Tell me, though. How is working with "Holy Joe" "reaching across the aisle"? Lieberman's been a closet Republican for years now. He's not even a Democrat any more because Ned Lamont beat him in the primary in 2006. He's a member of the "Connecticut for Lieberman Party" (what a narcissist!). Want to take a bet that he loses his committee chairmanship and officially becomes a Republican next year?

The simple fact is, John McCain has taken a hard right turn since running for president and has sided and voted with George Bush 100% of the time in the past year. "Reaching across the aisle" to Republicans means strong-arming Democrats into voting with Republicans. It's a one way street for them. That's fact.

Posted by: Brian Rapp | June 15, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

tomabrahams:
"In Texas, $1.2 million of that money came from the zip code that begins 770--. That's Houston. Dallas was number 2."

Thats big oil. Poeple who benefit from 4.00 plus gas. Same people who got bush elected.

Posted by: Julian | June 15, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

It's the black people who are racist. Voting over 90% for Hussein is statistically racist.

Affirmative Action won't win Hussein the POTUS job. People who work won't vote for him to give away what we have earned.

Sorry.........liberals will lose again!!

Posted by: WHITE AND RIGHT | June 15, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Karl. Im making an asumption that you're white. If Im wrong forgive me.

If you're waliking down the street and you turn the corner and the first person that you see is Obama, without knowing his name or that he's running for president, I know the first thing that would come to mind is this black guy, unlees your not paying any attention at all. Short of knowing his true ethnicity you see a black man. Upon futher review you may think a fair, or light skined black man.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

i didnt get a scholarship or state and federal grants for college i got squat. is it because im white or am i black you decide but my mother was white and my father well you decide like i said i didnt get any help.

Posted by: rob | June 15, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

obama supporters are using Bush's tactics of calling his adopted daughter from Bangla Desh in controversy.

We always knew that these are bunch of frauds

Posted by: akg | June 15, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

here's a new study about perception that you might like:

Here's the latest news on John McCain's swing through Texas...

His trip starts today in Dallas. He'll hold a finance reception and dinner there where the tickets start at $2300 for two tickets. The top giving level there is $57,000 (give or raise). For that you get a private reception with photo opportunity and two tickets to private dinner. You also receive membership into RNC's Regent Program.

The program according to the RNC website:

Established in 1999, The Republican Regents program provides the maximum support for our Party and its efforts to promote the Bush Agenda while providing the resources our candidates need to win elections

Much was made this past week over the initial plans for that fund raiser...and the involvement of former Texas gubernatorial candidate Clayton Williams.

Williams and McCain/abcnews.com

There's an interesting (though anti-McCain) take on this from TheAtlantic.com:

...when the McCain campaign got asked about the "lie back and enjoy it" remark, they swiftly canceled the fund raiser.

So that was the story -- McCain cancels fund raiser. Except now it turns out that the fund raiser's not canceled and the $300,000 is still being banked, the venue is just shifting to someone else's house. But to whatever extent McCain would have owed Williams favors pre-"cancellation" he still owes him favors now. It was the bundling of the contributions, not the use of Williams' house, that was the thing of value Williams was offering McCain.

From Dallas, McCain heads to San Antonio on Tuesday for a fund raising reception/luncheon there. That's at noon.

By 4pm Tuesday, he's at The Hilton Grand Americas in downtown Houston for a public rally and speech. If you plan on being there, the doors open to the general public at 2pm.

This is his first rally in Houston since the one he held at the Armadillo Palace in March on the day of the Texas primary.

That night he has a high dollar fund raiser which I first mentioned in a post last week. We've asked to allow our camera into the fund raiser, but we've been told only one print photographer is allowed in as a "pool" camera.

He's here, because he can raise a lot of money for his campaign and for the GOP. According to the FEC, through the end of April (the latest numbers out) he'd raise $6.2 million in Texas. He's raised more money here than anywhere other than California ($10.1 million).

In Texas, $1.2 million of that money came from the zip code that begins 770--. That's Houston. Dallas was number 2.

So it's no secret why McCain is here for two days, holds fundraisers in three cities, and gives one speech.

From Texas he heads to Missouri, Illinois, Minnesota, and California.

After Houston, he currently does not have another public rally until June 30th...a planned town hall meeting in Pipersville, PA.

Thanks for reading. TA

Posted by: tomabrahams | June 15, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I am glad I support a candidate who I can be proud of. His opponents attack him for giving good speeches . Some agree with him but call him a hypocrite. Some are afraid he will be president and some of their racist mythology will be publicly debunked.

The people who I can least understand who create a baseless myth about their candidate but never talk about what he offers the country other than his ability to resist intense and persistent torture which certainly shows a certain amount of character strength but hardly qualifies him to be president.

Obama is in touch with the lives of ordinary Americans because his life has been about those same people. His concern is about improving their lives and is intellectually honest to tell them that it is more in their hands than it is in his.

McCain would be emotionally and intellectually unable to make that speech for McCain is more about appearance than content. To appear to be the worldly leader he wants us to believe he is, he does not have to concern himself about the lives of ordinary people. He needs Lieberman to whisper in his ear every so often to do that. How much more Bush-like can you be than that.

Posted by: Gator-ron | June 15, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I really want to know why black people feel compelled to steal. We had this black lady at the office who would take office supplies. I made sure to report her to management. They put hidden cameras in the supply closet and she was caught. I felt it was my duty as a good christian and american to make sure that she paid for her misdeeds.

Posted by: Dianne72 | June 15, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Some people just do not get it. We are tired of all the racial tension going on in this country. I could care less who the President is, as long as I can afford to live a decent life. Last time I checked racism never put food on the table.

Whats the point of fighting for freedom if I can't afford it. Grow the hell up.

I feel ya mother should have swallowed the majority of you.

Posted by: Antoine | June 15, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Julian wrote:

"To bad McSame couldn't give a fathers day speech, but what would he say?

"I left my first wife because she became disabled, and I won't let anyone see one of my children, because she isn't white and I'm embarrassed?

Just because McCain doesn't pimp his kids like Obama....

Posted by: WylieD | June 15, 2008 8:37 PM

No there is a story about how the unemployed white one (Cindy's kid) finally registered as a republican for fathers day. He is fine with pimping out his daughter, just as long as it is the white one.

Posted by: Actually | June 15, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Stop pandering.

This guy was community organizer in south chicago and south chicago has the highest crime rate in the whole country.

How effective a community organizer.

Posted by: akg | June 15, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama called black if he has a white mother?

Posted by: Karl | June 15, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Personally I wish to h*ll that we can once again separate church and state. I have nothing against anyone who is religious, regardless of what brand, but spiritual beliefs of every religion rarely have anything in common with what is good for all of us. Certainly a Presidential leader has no basis for preaching from a pulpit. Not too many years ago this would lose the tax exemption status of the church almost instantly. Ground rules are exactly what the term indicates and should be followed in my opinion.

Posted by: RetCombatVet | June 15, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Barry Hussein sets a good example of a Muslim father?

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | June 15, 2008 8:36 PM

Well when the republican candidate is some crazy PTSD warmonger, who thinks peoples economic problems are psychological, all you have left are hate and fear.

Posted by: TexDem | June 15, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

WOW-OBAMA! WHAT A REVELATION! GOSH, LIKE BLACK LEADERS HAVEN'T BEEN SAYING THAT FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS OR SO, HUH? BUT YOUR SAYING IT, WHY THAT MAKES IT COME PRACTICALLY FROM THE MOUTH OF THE LORD, DOESN'T IT?

SHEESH, GET OUTTA HERE, YOU IDIOT! YOU SERIOUSLY THINK DEMS. ARE GONNA VOTE FOR YOU? NO FREAKING WAY!

Posted by: Arrabbiato | June 15, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Julian wrote:

"To bad McSame couldn't give a fathers day speech, but what would he say?

"I left my first wife because she became disabled, and I won't let anyone see one of my children, because she isn't white and I'm embarrassed?

Just because McCain doesn't pimp his kids like Obama....

Posted by: WylieD | June 15, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Barry Hussein sets a good example of a Muslim father?

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | June 15, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

o

Posted by: o | June 15, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

He's exactly right, and about all fathers, not just those of a particular ethnic group.


Posted by: Bill Mosby | June 15, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that the majority of crimes committed in this country are done by blacks. We had a black family move into our subdivision last year and they stole my children's toys! We could not leave anything on the front lawn because it would disappear. Not even the Sunday paper was safe!

Posted by: Dianne72 | June 15, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse


Brian Rapp wrote:

"No, he has a record of ACTING like he reaches across the aisle."

McCain doesn't work across the aisle?

For starters, you might want to talk with Russ Feingold, as well as Joe Lieberman, Robert Byrd, Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, Daniel Inouye, Mark Pryor, Ken Salazar, oh, and Hillary Clinton.

Don't know what this list of names means?

You Obama folks really need to get out more.


Posted by: WylieD | June 15, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

To bad McSame couldn't give a fathers day speech, but what would he say?

I left my first wife because she became disabled, and I won't let anyone see one of my children, because she isn't white and I'm embarrassed?

Posted by: Julian | June 15, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Almost everyone who has left messages here seems to be guilty of broad (and often inaccurate) generalizations, unsubstantiated accusations, personal attacks, and other uncivilized conversation unbecoming a nation of our stature. Let us not forget that we, as a people, despite the practical ramifications of an electoral college, a representative government, and so on, have a direct, vested interest in who our next leader will be. By extension, so does the rest of the world; after all, we are the leaders of the free world, so to speak, and we should carry ourselves in such a manner.

That being said, practically everyone seems to have started foaming at the mouth with accusations and comments based on what can be at best termed as circumstantial evidence and at worst simply nasty rumors begun by individuals with some personal vendetta against one candidate or another. Let's back off, take a deep breath (or two or three), and look at the "big picture."

Yes, it is Father's Day. But, as has been pointed out, just because a man can impregnate a woman does not make him a father. Just because you have a day that is commercially set aside for you does not mean you can shirk your responsibilities the other 364 (in a leap year, 365) days of the year. Granted, no father (and, for that matter, no mother) can "be there" for every moment of their child's (or children's) life, but provided they are there when it counts, they shouldn't have to be. Senator Obama is making the point that for a large segment of the black community, men who should be fathering are not there even when it counts, if at all. This is not the first time such a point has been made, even by a black man. And because of our environment of "political correctness," and our irrational fear of backlash (I personally believe that if I'm not offending someone, I must be doing something wrong), many who have the right idea are afraid to say it.

Conservative or not, Democrat or not, we should take a deep breath and see this speech, this sermon, for what it can be: the beginnings of a conversation that may just be the solution the black communities nationwide have been looking for. Let's not mince words here - it is no secret that the black communities in general are in poorer shape than those of other minorities, and a major reason for that has something to do with damaged or dysfunctional families. It is high time that we all realized that the betterment of black communities everywhere will contribute to the improvement of all America, everywhere, and that we applaud those with the courage to say so.

Senator McCain may have the same idea as Senator Obama, but I feel that in part because of his age but more so because of our PC atmosphere of late, he is loath to make any remarks towards African-Americans that might possibly be misconstrued as condescending. Whatever his political leanings and ideological tendencies, the fact remains that Senator McCain is a war veteran and a POW to boot, that he stood up when his country called for him, and he is not your typical politician. Fortunately for us, neither is Senator Obama, which makes this particular election season that much more important and that much more interesting. (Having said that, they are still politicians, so it's not unreasonable for them to take certain actions for political reasons - just like one of us might distance ourselves from a crazy or otherwise disreputable relative for a while.)

So many Americans (I only assume you are Americans, but sometimes I hope I'm wrong) here seem to be blinded by their own sociopolitical worldview, by their own party affiliation, to see the "big picture." It does not matter that Senator Obama might be half white and the other half mostly Arab. If he is elected (and even if he isn't), what matters is that the system set forth by the Constitution works, that it does not discriminate, and that our experiment in democracy (for, even more than two centuries later, it is still an experiment) does indeed give a fair shot to anyone - and I mean anyone - who merits that chance.

Guilt by association is not an appropriate measure by which to judge an individual. I could assume that, by some of your comments, many of you who have posted here are white, lower to lower-middle class, male, and nominally Christian. Perhaps you hail from the South; maybe you don't. But I don't think you'd appreciate it if I judged you (indeed, that is God's job, not ours) by association and said that you all were fat, incapable of even being able to defend your own lives, much less stand up for those of others, not true followers of Christ, racist, ignorant, lower-than-average IQ, inbred, and whatever other fallacious remarks that come to mind. Some of it might be true; I'm certain that most of it isn't. I'm giving you, as a fellow American, the benefit of the doubt. I suggest you all give our two presidential candidates the same.

Posted by: charles | June 15, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

It isn't up to men whether or not they stay in the home! It's up to the selfish WOMEN who file over 70% of divorces. Fathers in this country have no rights or authority, and treated as criminals by the "family court system." Don't rob men of the power to raise their kids and then continue to blame them for what irresponsible women do.

Posted by: Men lack the power | June 15, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

As Michele says, HE's my babies Daddy.


Go away OBAMA.

Posted by: bpower | June 15, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Too many people here obviously didn't watch the speech. To all those accusing him of playing into stereotypes, he said these are problems that affect all communities (i.e. black, white Hispanic) but he recognized that it has been an enduring problem in the African American community. For all those racist conservatives, his speech called for all men to take responsibility for themselves and their families, especially in instances where men choose to abandon that responsibility. This is a message, even racists like FC and Bob S can embrace.

Posted by: esl | June 15, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"Whiteygate" should be an explosive turn of events come its release in October.

Posted by: Sandy | June 15, 2008 8:19 PM

No made up republican scandals will save McCain when people find out that he has PTSD. We cant afford for the presidency to be a therapy session for a mentally ill man incapable of remembering basic facts.

Posted by: TexDem | June 15, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

O is upbraiding black male fathers, here on Fathers's Day!..

cant wait till he is POTUS....wonder how he will upbraid ALL OF us AMERICANS..for being such failures?!?!?..

or should i say: how will Michelle and he upbraid us...

CANT WAIT...!!!

sheeesh!

Posted by: aw | June 15, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

um, Sandy, I think that you've heard the totally inaccurate Foxbert quote which isn't true -- Can you source that "Whitey" comment for us? From somewhere OTHER than a Fox commentator?


Posted by: DCExpat in Durham | June 15, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

If black men would stop stealing and stay in school there would not be so many fatherless black children.

Posted by: Dianne72 | June 15, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

It's about time the 'Bama junked Farrakorn and Rev Wrong.

Now he's dissin black fathers.

Last I checked, US military, African, Caribbean, and South American black fathers are raising beautiful, wonderful children.

Posted by: Bill Cosby | June 15, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

"It's not just the African American Dads that walk out on their kids it's every race in the world. Children need both parents"

Correct. I'd have even liked for Obama to go further on the flip side to some mothers who don't step up to the plate as well. None less, however, I am pleased that Obama stood up and made this statement at all. I suppose the focus is because of Fathers Day.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

"Whiteygate" should be an explosive turn of events come its release in October.

Posted by: Sandy | June 15, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

"Obama said that more police on the street and job training programs are essential for a safe and sound society, "'But we also need families to raise our children.'"

And which is needed more, candidate Obama?

Posted by: WylieD | June 15, 2008 8:13 PM

Yeah in the eyes of J. Sydney McCain republicans it is an either or. McCain's message: Stop trying to make our country better. NO WE CAN'T.

100 years in Iraq, economic problems are psychological, you just need to dumb your current wife and marry a younger rich one.

Posted by: Julian | June 15, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

"His Name is McCain, and he spent over 5 years being tortured because he chose to serve his country as a young man. He lost his teeth, his leg was never set, he has limited movement in his hands and forearms from the torture he receive [sic]."

How does this qualify him to be president of the United States, exactly? He admits he doesn't know much about economics, so he looks to geniuses like Lindsay Graham, who is directly responsible for the current housing crisis. He's not a lawyer, so he doesn't know that much about the constitution, which is evident with some of his recent statements.

"He came back to the States and instead of becoming bitter, instead of embracing victimhood, he made a second career for himself. He made several mistakes. He admitted to them being HIS OWN responsibility. He never blamed anyone else."

Yes, he divorced his wife and left his kids to marry a rich, younger woman, then used her money to propel himself onto the political stage, where he has served corporate interests and his rich donors very well.

"He has a record of reaching across the isle [sic], He stood up to Mr. Bush on torture, on vets rights. He push campaign finance reform against his parties wishes."

No, he has a record of ACTING like he reaches across the aisle. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. He voted with George Bush 100% of the time in the last year in an effort to appeal to the extreme far right. Last year, he said he agreed with Bush on everything, now he says he disagrees with Bush on a lot of things...except he doesn't. He claims to want to reform Washington, but his staff is packed with lobbyists, some with ties to the Russian mob. The man can't tell a consistent story from one minute to the next. He's just another rich white man who will protect other rich white men while screwing the rest of us. If he is so much in favor of vets rights, why did he vote against Senator Webb's GI bill? These Republicans talk a good game about supporting the troops, but they don't really because to them, "support the troops" means ship them overseas forever to shoot people.

"Yes, I can imagine being inspired by Mr. McCain, even though I sometimes disagree with his beliefs or choices."

I'm still wondering what inspires you about McCain.

Posted by: Brian Rapp | June 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

O quote from above..:

O: .."...wishing that I could be home for my girls and my wife more than I am right now.."
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yea! Michelle made him say the above, "Barry, PICK UP YOUR SMELLY SOCKS!!!..."

what a bad, bad political/move speech!...

Posted by: aw | June 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Michelle Obama has taught her children to use the term "whitey"...

Posted by: Sandy | June 15, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

So how does the headline the editor chose go from "Obama Delivers Father's Day Sermon" to the online version of "Obama Criticizes Black Fathers."

Did all the journalists and online editors have the day off? Anyone at the Wapo want to explain that hard shift?

Posted by: Online headline | June 15, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama supports gay marriage. A phoney insitution that will ensure millions of children have no fathers.

what a hypocrite.

Posted by: Obama's Nightmare | June 15, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse


"Obama said that more police on the street and job training programs are essential for a safe and sound society, "'But we also need families to raise our children.'"

And which is needed more, candidate Obama?

Posted by: WylieD | June 15, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

You can't even say ask about what McCain would say because it's completely differenty circumstances. A white guy running for president telling African American's (or any minority) to shape up? Can't be done. I'm not particularly fond of McCain, but superimposing him onto an impossible situation is trivial and ineffective in accomplishing anything.

I don't think that it should take a black president to be able to address African American/Latino/Whichever minority and have it be socially acceptable. How can any president, whether white, black, asian, whatever, make any positive social impact on the country if there is a stigma about what issues s/he can and can't address because of their race or ethnicity? I say this speaking as a US Latino mind you.

It's very telling about how big Obama is for having the guts to step up to the plate and say it, and the problems that we the public create for the office of the president.

Posted by: Francisco | June 15, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dems, don't get upset by the wacked-out anti-Obama commenters. Pretty soon, their moms will call them up for dinner.
Remember, these are their best shots! This is all they have. Rejoice and be happy.

Posted by: michael | June 15, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Inspired by McSame? You think we are heading in the right direction? You like the way the Republicans have led us?

If you goons are inspired by his victim status, go join Hamas. The cult of the victim is as disgusting as it is dangerous. It is what Obama's speech today was about.

McSame is now a wholly owned shill of the RNC and no matter what he did or did not do in the 70s, no one cares.

This is about the future and McSame has nothing to offer but more of the same, more of his past.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 15, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

This is a speech that plays well with the white "accountability first" crowd in the swing state that Hillary won.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | June 15, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Barry Hussein will tell his children about daddy's Muslim faith?

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | June 15, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

He reminds me of the historical Jesus Christ... The power elite hated him too..., then Rome came up with the Pope schtick and used the Christianity thing to subvert everyone for the last 1500 years. Barack's quote: "We're the ones that we've been waiting for". I like the way it sounds!

Posted by: Paul Kopper | June 15, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

It's simply a case of extremely low self-esteem.

Perhaps Obama can push them enough.

That'd be a gift to them, and to the entire ccountry.


Posted by: Buzzm1 | June 15, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

It's not just the African American Dads that walk out on their kids it's every race in the world. Children need both parents

Posted by: Marie | June 15, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

"Several of McCain's fellow POWs have spoken publicly about how he inspired them. And I would venture that if you asked a hundred men and women in the service, you would discover a few more."

Several POW's have also called him an opportunists, and decried his treatment of his first wife. We have one candidate who values family, his wife and daughters, and McCain who abandons his family when his wife is no longer attractive, or when some one richer or better connected comes along.

McCain talks about honor, but all he really has is opportunism. McCain has no ideas or policy to improve our country, he is running on his biography. That is why people need to know about how he cheated on and uses women in his life. When they have no more benefit for him he kicks them to the curb.

Posted by: Julian | June 15, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

i am against O..but sheesh.. what a bad political move!.....

why? why?...

OH!..the answer!: MICHELLE MADE HIM DO IT.

wonder what M will MAKE O do next..??

sheeesh...

Posted by: aw | June 15, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

If Barack Obama is inaugurated as president, he will not be the first black president. When will he give proper recognition and thanks to his white mother and grandparents who raised hime, when his black father abandoned him at the age of 2?

As half white and half black he has had an opportunity to give equal emphasis to his bi-racial heritage. Instead Obama chose the black Chicago style politics to advance his career. I suspect that to the black community half a loaf is better than none.

It would be truly remarkable if a black candidate were elected president who could trace his geneology to the foreparents who entered america as slaves.

Posted by: MJHS | June 15, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I love it - a candidate for president actually telling it like it is - a true leader like we haven't had since JFK and RFK.
So why all the sick racist comments? Grow up, America!

Posted by: Bob Mosher | June 15, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

ASPEN GIRL,

Can you give us an example of John McCain's leadership abilities?

Posted by: julescator | June 15, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

THE PLAN

Perhaps Obama can make the blacks angry (at themselves) enough for them to finally stand up and fight to take back the jobs that 20 million illegal immigrants have taken from them.

That would kill two birds with one stone.

I can dream, can't I????


Posted by: Buzzm1 | June 15, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I have read w/ dismay most of the comments posted on this blog and must confess I am honestly disappointed. It's one thing to not like a candidate, it's another thing to simply try to destroy the person w/ every given opportunity... If you care, you can listen to the whole speech here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj1hCDjwG6M

Posted by: Thetruth | June 15, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain & wife broke up his first marriage; then he covered for Cindy's theft of drugs.

Family values, my butt-cheeks!!

Posted by: malach hamovess | June 15, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

WHITE AND RIGHT:

The good news is that there are not enough ignorant racists in the country to stop Obama. You are a dying breed and none too fast. The young people who are post-racial, the educated people, the Black people, the Hispanic people, the new voters, all out number the ignorant racists in our country. WHOO HOO!!!!!

Posted by: julescator | June 15, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Why did he target blacks? Aren't there many fathers of all races missing from lives and homes? I don't understand it. Couldn't he have been inclusive?

Posted by: John | June 15, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

*Previous post was in reference of AsperGirl's post*

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Ok McCAIN it's time for you to address the angry, racist WHITE people amongst us - like many writing here today. these are the ignorant of our race and we need to educate them. When will McCain tell these men to stop passing racism on to their children. Ignorance is flourishing in America.

Posted by: julescator | June 15, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

carolinagirl said:

Because he is black he can say things that a white person could not.

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Why is that? Is absentee fathering a problem that only threatens black families and communities? Is the truth only truth if spoken by a black tongue?

Are whites not permitted to comment on problems in the black community? Does that mean that blacks aren't permitted to comment on problems in the white community?

If Obama being (half) black gives him some special right to say things no one else but another black could or should say, that's the first problem we need to address.

Posted by: Lynn | June 15, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Some of us are ready to roll up are sleeves and figure out how to fix some of the big problems in our country, and make this a better place to live.

Then there is J. Sidney McCain and his following. Desperate for power, he thinks he is entitled to, all Sidney and his cult of warmongers can do is repeat slurs and insults, some even race based. It is an appeal to a base sense of fear.

We can have a candidate who wants to make America a more perfect place for us and our children, or J. Sidney desperately trying to hold on to a world where he does little work and gets power and money from his biography, and rich trophy wife, and the rest of us fall further behind.

Posted by: Julian | June 15, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The cynicism of many of these postings is depressing. Many of us have become so accustomed to betrayal and corruption from our public servants, we can no longer even imagine trustworthiness. Has our capitalist-materialist system become the cancer that makes us all susceptible to moral and ethical corruption? Obama has intelligence, integrity, vision, humility, compassion. Wake up jaded doubters. Read the books. Get informed.

Posted by: Dahveed | June 15, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama worked hard with social lawyers in Chicago to ensure that young fathers had the job training to provide for their families, or at least, their children.

This is enabling young men to take the responsibility of fatherhood seriously and make good on their commitment. I can't imagine a better Father's Day present.

Posted by: Esther | June 15, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Now he's searching for white votes with a "Sister Souljah" screed against African American males.

This is so patronizing. What is he going to do next to try and prove he didn't spend 20 years with Rev. Wright, after bowling in PA.? Play Beach Boys songs at his campaign rallies? Dance badly in public? Announce that he has unexpectedly small genitalia?

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | June 15, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree with every sentence or phrase, but I agree (like others) with her on Obama acknowledging this behavior within a group of people.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Watched the speech on c-span. It was a nice one, especially to give at Sunday churches. He really should be a priest rather than a president.

Posted by: God Father | June 15, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse


shrink2 wrote:

"Could you McSame voters imagine, in your wildest dreams, your choice for President inspiring anybody? Anybody?"

Obama folks who take a line like yours do their own candidate no credit.

Several of McCain's fellow POWs have spoken publicly about how he inspired them. And I would venture that if you asked a hundred men and women in the service, you would discover a few more. Or just go to amazon.com and look over the readers' comments about his books.

You sound like someone who doesn't get out much. Are you even old enough to vote?

Posted by: WylieD | June 15, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

>>carolinagirl wrote: "AsperGirl, you're only shocked because you're an ignorant skank! Obama has said the exact same thing dozens of times! He even said it in his 2004 convention speech. But instead of listening to Obama, you spend your time talking like the crazy loon you are!"

carolinagirl, if you pay attention to my post, it's about actual action, not rhetoric. His speeches mean nothing to most real people who don't thrive off the rock-star stuff and pop icons. It's the actions that impress a lot of people. Action is what is lacking in Obama's record and campaigning. It is his showing up today and talking to the congregation that is meaningful, not what he hyped to a bunch of politicians at the convention.

I have been underwhelmed with Barack Obama's leadership because he's been doing too much talking about doing, like at the convention, while there is little evidence of his leadership.

The only evidence of his leadership is the campaign he has run, which, while successful, has verbally abusive, low qualities, like the character, tone and quality of the sexist, mysogynist campaign against Clinton. It's the ghetto trash quality of his behind-the-scenes Internet and media campaign against Clinton, that sounds like ghetto trash like you, in the way you addressed me above, that is so offensive and reflects poorly on the "tone" and quality he would bring to American politics.

If the hos and racist haters like you stopped using his campaign as an excuse to unload on white people, like white people who don't support your candidate, he would get a lot farther with white voters.

Supporters like you with your low quality, street verbal behavior, are baggage for him.

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 15, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

As usual, Obama only gets it half right. Does he want fathers to play an effective role in raising their children? Or does he want them to continue to be threatened by draconian child support enforcement measures?

The problem of absentee fathers is a tremendous one and it should be addressed. But it doesn't always lie solely at the feet of the fathers. It is often caused by mothers who abuse protection orders, tell the most vicious lies in court, refuse to cooperate with arbitration and generally use the domestic court system to keep men away from the very children they're required to pay half their salaries for.

Obama doesn't want his daughters "punished" with an unwanted baby, but he doesn't seem to mind seeing someone else's son's punished.

Posted by: Lynn | June 15, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

He's a marxist! Enough said!

Posted by: Jeff | June 15, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

"Although a valid issue, Obama's not the right person to lecture others on father involvement. OBAMA'S CHILDREN LIVE IN CHICAGO, WHILE HE WORKS IN WASHINGTON D.C. (OR TRAVELS AROUND CAMPAIGNING). He could have moved the family to D.C. so he could spend more time with his children, but he chose not to. WHAT A HYPOCRITE!"


This is common practice for Members of Congress. Generally there are only votes (which is when they really need to be in DC for the business of legislating) on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. Tuesday votes generally begin after noon. They need to be back in their home districts and work from the offices there for a variety of reasons (economic development, meeting constituents, attending local civic meetings etc) so they commute. It would be highly irresponsible to drag the kids along for such a commute (with school and all) so it's fairly common to stay in DC two or three nights out of the week and the rest at home (this is different for legislators from farther away).

Posted by: Cate | June 15, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Obama can make the blacks angry enough for them to finally stand up and fight to take back the jobs that 20 million illegal immigrants have taken from them.

That would kill two birds with one stone.

I can dream, can't I????


Posted by: Buzzm1 | June 15, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not upfront about things....nice way of putting it.
Short and simply....he's bad news. Wake up America.

Obama loves America like OJ loved Nicole

Posted by: Locochicka | June 15, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

>>What's the logic to smearing men on Father's Day?>>

This is smearing? Get a grip.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, you're only shocked because you're an ignorant skank! Obama has said the exact same thing dozens of times! He even said it in his 2004 convention speech. But instead of listening to Obama, you spend your time talking like the crazy loon you are!

Obama never said he was post-racial; he's running to be president of all of the US which (in case you haven't noticed) includes black people. Because he is black he can say things that a white person could not.

Posted by: carolinagirl | June 15, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama is an attorney, an orator, a politician. Scary combination.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

What's the logic to smearing men on Father's Day?

All the polls show Obama surging in support among women against McCain. It makes no sense at all. And what is he doing still trying to solidify his base in mid-June?

Posted by: Kacoo | June 15, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

If Barack Obama starts acting like the problems of the black community are actually on his agenda, that he can and will start addressing them, and that he isn't just using the black vote and his "I have a dream" rhetoric to get elected, I could actually support him for President.

His "post-racial" posture implies that the racial problems are behind us and that he would lead without focus on racial problems.

It would be great if Barack Obama dropped that "post-racial" pose and explained how he can help America by helping the black communities start solving some problems and start moving toward a better future in greater numbers.

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 15, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama, recognized universally as an excellent father, tries always to be home for his girl -- especially for important events and he is with them on weekends etc.

Like him, many of us had to miss a lot of time with our kids because of our jobs - a military career has that effect - as does service to our community in many other callings. But, responsibility does not mean you need to spend every minute with them --- rather it means that you are there when it really counts and throughout their lives.

His talk today was from the heart.

Posted by: Gandalfthegrey | June 15, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

NOTABLY, OBAMA FAILS TO MENTION THE STEP-FATHER HE HAD FROM THE TIME HE WAS 6 UNTIL 18, CHOOSING, INSTEAD, ONLY TO SAY HE WAS RAISED IN HAWAII. HE OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO HIS MUSLIM, INDONESIAN STEP-FATHER, OR THE YEARS HE SPENT IN MUSLIM INDONESIA.

Posted by: Bob S | June 15, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"Could you McSame voters imagine, in your wildest dreams, your choice for President inspiring anybody? Anybody?

Hello? ***chirp**chirp***chirp***"

His Name is McCain, and he spent over 5 years being tortured because he chose to serve his country as a young man.
He lost his teeth, his leg was never set, he has limited movement in his hands and forearms from the torture he receive.

He came back to the States and instead of becoming bitter, instead of embracing victimhood, he made a second career for himself.
He made several mistakes. He admitted to them being HIS OWN responsibility. He never blamed anyone else.
He has a record of reaching across the isle, He stood up to Mr. Bush on torture, on vets rights. He push campaign finance reform against his parties wishes.


Yes, I can imagine being inspired by Mr. McCain, even though I sometimes disagree with his beliefs or choices.


Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Cynical thought: I bet someone rushed him into a speaking slot at that Church today after his extremely agile and responsive campaign spotted that Trinity Church piece in today's Post that made him look 2-faced and opportunistic today.

Uncynical thought: If Barack Obama starts carrying through with his promises to make changes in the lives of black people and bring new hope to communities and actually addressing their problems instead of just exploiting the voting block and pretending he will help them by being an iconic figure of successful black ambition, maybe his presidency would be worthwhile.

I find the proposition of his having a "post-racial" presidency repugnant. If he doesn't address the problems of the black community and start acting to solve them, all he's doing is running as a racial candidate when it comes to getting votes and a post-racial candidate when it comes to actually doing something for black America.

I happen to agree with Bill Crosby, and it's good that Barack Obama has stopped his trajectory enough to show that he's aware that as a politician he needs to act like the black community problems exist. It's not there just to send a black president into office and then go away so as to not embarrass him.

If Barack Obama gets elected and is a terrible president, as his inexperience and lack of depth on issues implies he would be, it will still be worthwhile to have him as President if he can at least start America on the road to starting to address the problems of the black community.

I'm so shocked he actually bothered to talk to this congregation in a way that is actually problem-solution-oriented and not just social-political rhetorical pandering.

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 15, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Where are the people that applauded Bill Cosby when he delivered the same message. Most white people and many blacks agreed with Mr. Cosby when HE TOO demanded black men to step up to the plate and become more involved in their children's lives. If you know anything about Obama. He's been making these comments for MANY years! Go on youtube and you'll see Obama making these same types of comments to predominately black audiences many years ago!

Senator Obama has is a working father. I guess George W. Bush is a bad father too. During his run in 2000 both of his daughters were in highschool and he spent many, many months away from them too.

Double standards...

Posted by: Monica | June 15, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Hussein will lose by 10% or more
Sorry bitter coffee

Posted by: WHITE AND RIGHT | June 15, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama did a most needed thing today... talking about absent fathers. The country needs a wife and husband to raise their children together. The social structure is falling down!

Please, more men come out and talk about this important issue.

Happy Father's Day!

Posted by: change | June 15, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Amen. Obama, again, does the right thing. While the mainstream media publishes pro-gay propaganda on Father's Day, including the image of two lesbians marrying (how appopriate on Father's Day, no?), Obama actually gets it right. Lead by example. Tell the truth. The harder right instead of the easier wrong. This dude may be worth considering. Truth, a novel concept for Washington.

Posted by: Former Republican | June 15, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I know how pimps are admired in the black community. There is no much to expect from a community that trash Obama and Bill while adoring empty head rappers and ballers. The Asian Community has chosen a different path. Look at them at MIT, Harvard, Princeton...

Posted by: Kerp | June 15, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

What is good about Obama is that this subject even matters to him. He sees the wold as a place where he has an opportunity to make a positive difference. And he wants issues that will improve the health of the society discussed. McCain sees the world as filled with islamofacists making it necessary for the president to take rights away from the American people. He has no interest in the well being of ordinary people only the monied who his policies will help.

Fortunately Obama is up to the task of dealing with the lies of the Republican party. He can handle them because of his past experiences,but his opponents are going to try to bash him for being a Chicago politician and thus a formidable foe. What they can not fathom is the reality of how feed up people are with the way this country is going. The pity is that the damage from George Bush will take a generation to correct. That is an awful lot of Republican lies to combat.

Posted by: Gator-ron | June 15, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

My oh my, after reading all of these posts I am struck by the hatred and racist ranting of most of them. No matter that you agree with Obama or not on his speech today, give him kudos for broaching the subject. I wonder what words John McCain used to describe his try at fatherhood today? Did he have the intestinal fortitude to talk about himself in this role, hummmm?

Posted by: TAP | June 15, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Since Mr. Obama wants black men to raise their children , let's start with Obama himself.

Keep him out of the White house so he can RAISE HIS OWN CHILDREN.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Could you McSame voters imagine, in your wildest dreams, your choice for President inspiring anybody? Anybody?

Hello? ***chirp**chirp***chirp***

No not the oil men and the Faux News people. When will the RNC flak McSame give up, that is the question.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 15, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

People may rip Barack Obama apart for this but I think this speech takes balls. A LOT OF balls. Obama is telling a major group that supports him to shape up. Can you imagine John McCain doing this? It would be like McCain telling Republicans that they are complacent and inflexible in refusing to compromise with Democrats. Obama was not being political here if he was then he would be complimenting them and telling them that they are all great fathers no matter what.

Posted by: Rod | June 15, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Obama the chameleon! Tell 'em what they want to hear..it is a vote getter every time!!

OBAMA is NEVER responsible....he BLAMES OTHERS AT ALL TIMES!

His father and mother abandon him and turn him over to be raised by grandparents?????

And so what are he and wifey doing now? Yes, abandoning their young children and turning them over to Grandmother to raise!!!!

HISTORY DOES REPEAT ITSELF, DOES IT NOT?

GO BACK TO CHICAGO and raise your children 24/7 until they are 18...that is the parenthood responsibility you both ASSUMED.... now PARENT UP and raise your own children!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Obama!! Right on the money! Don't stop telling the truth. Strong families start in the home. This country could do with more responsible parents, at least more than those we have already.

Posted by: Obama2008 | June 15, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't ofen say this but the NYT has a more detailed and in my opinion better article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/us/politics/15cnd-obama.html?hp

Posted by: Kapil | June 15, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a fraud. Period.

Posted by: DEM to IND | June 15, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the bitter rants that get posted here. Whether you agree with the messanger, at least listen to the message. Don't let your ideology or bias blind you.

Frankly, I think Obama's speech today was couragious and honest. I doubt if any other politician would dare making such observations in the middle os an election year. It's a message that needs to be heard.

It's too bad so many readers can't pause and reflect on the message.

Posted by: mythbusters | June 15, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

It is true black men need to do better. Blaming the past will solve nothing. We can not always blame the past for Asian countries escaping poverty while all black countries have not done so.
The black communiy has a higher rate of AIDS and we blame poverty when there are poor communities in the world that are less affected. Having five children with five different fathers or mothers is more common in black community than other communities. When someone says something needs to be done and you call him hypocrite you are not changing the reality and you are solving nothing.

Posted by: Keml | June 15, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Bob S, what he said is true both about other fathers and himself. Lighten up. I can tell from your post that you could work on being a more tolerant person. Don't tear down Obama try building up McCain, or is that to difficult for you.

Posted by: G8tr | June 15, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

The code of the speech obama gave on fathers days is a code that can only be decephered by african americans.
He knows their code. because he is talking about their lives. To any one else who come accross this speech , it comes as a lecture.

if you know african american history
you will know what he is talking aobut.
it is not politics.
it is a personal moment he is trying to share with his community.,

Posted by: nin-gus-dheer | June 15, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Beautiful speech and one McCain could never have pulled off. This is going to go over very well with independents and women voters.

Any McCain supporter who called Obama an elitist is a hypocrite, a racist, and an all out liar.

Posted by: Rick | June 15, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Although a valid issue, Obama's not the right person to lecture others on father involvement. OBAMA'S CHILDREN LIVE IN CHICAGO, WHILE HE WORKS IN WASHINGTON D.C. (OR TRAVELS AROUND CAMPAIGNING). He could have moved the family to D.C. so he could spend more time with his children, but he chose not to. WHAT A HYPOCRITE!

Posted by: Bob S | June 15, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Sermon, eh? Am I the only one getting tired of being 'preached at'?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama Plays into Stereotypes

Even though I am a big Obama fan, I have to say he got this one very very wrong. There are many fathers, black, white, hispanic and asian, who want to spend more time with their children, but they are prevented by the family courts. Just as divorced fathers are required to provide half the financial support for their children, they should also be expected to provide half the custodial time with their children. But, even though most fathers want to, they only get every other weekend from the court.

Maybe one day everyone will realize that men are as good parents as women, just as most people realize that women as as good lawyers, doctors or accountants as men. Rather than attacking fathers for not spending enough time with their children, Obama should attack the family court system for not allowing children with divorced parents to spend as much time with their fathers as with their mothers. Children need to have a close relationship with both.

Posted by: Martin | June 15, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

If this was the case, Obama quote the line from the epic gangster film, "The Untouchables". Let me quote the entire line for you, Billw: "If they bring a knife, you bring a gun; if they one of your in the hospital, you put ten of theirs in the morgue. That's the Chicago way!" Personally, I see nothing wrong with the quote. The GOP will bring their fight to the campaign, dirty tricks and all. So we take the fight to the GOP with clear intentions on winning!

Posted by: Black and Bitter like Coffee | June 15, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

IS OBAMA GETTING A FREE PASS FROM THE MEDIA?

The Wall Street Journal reported on 6-14-2008 (yesterday) that Obama stated during a speech in Philadelphia that to counter Republican attacks: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,"

This is grossly irresponsible. For any one to talk about bringing a knife or gun to the political campaign even figuratively is threatening in that there are people crazy enough to follow the words of Obama and do just that and literally try to harm McCain. What a stupid, ignorant, irresponsible thing for Obama to say. Unbelievable. Again, Obama clearly demonstrates his total lack of judgment.
Will the mainstream media report this or gloss it over?

Posted by: Billw | June 15, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Get used to this: Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States of America. Mrs. Michelle Obama, First Lady of the United States of America. The day draws nigh.


Posted by: Black and Bitter like Coffee | June 15, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

first of all the speech was designed to solve african american issue . When you run for prisident not every thing the candidate says is to every one , there are a lot of constituents in america. African american needed a leader who would look for a solution to african american children who mosly grow up with out a father figure. He happens to be in a position to speak to them so he did. some people are reasonable to understand that and will applaud him, if you think he he does not make sense to you, respect the people he makes sense to .
Believe it or not it african american children who will benefit from senator obama speaking to them about it.

Posted by: manos | June 15, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Considering Barack Hussein Obama is 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and only 6.25% black (which doesn't even allow him to claim the legal status of a black American, minimum 12.5%) why is the black community allowing him to degrade them like he is?

I would suggest the black community ask themselves why they are throwing their support behind a man who's only genetic connection to them is one great-great-grandmother on his father's side who was black and seven that were Arab (some of whom where even slave traders who sold black people).

Obama would NOT be the first black American president at all. He does not qualify. He would be the first Arab American president.

Facts are facts. Do your research.

Posted by: Why? | June 15, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

see what the rest of the world thinks of obama and mccain:

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/06/over-here-over.html

Posted by: tomabrahams | June 15, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I am always amazed at how low the lowest common demoninator of our society can be and then I read stupid comments posted on this site and it takes it down a whole level. Obama is an admirable dad, concerned citizen, and advocate for the family.

Granted he did not abandon his first wife and leave her for a trophy wife number two to pay for his career like McCain, so I am surprised to see all the stone casting coming from this camp. Yes, he hasn't called his wife a c*nt on the record nor tried to knock out other Senators on the floor when he disagreed with them. However, the fact that on Father's Day he agreed to talk about parental responsibility really makes him a radical.

You people throwing these stones sicken me and bring down the entire country with your GARBAGE

Posted by: ldsrapha | June 15, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Excellent sermon, on a topic, fatherhood, that once defined his young life by its absence. Barack never claims he's perfect. He's humble despite all accusations to the contrary. Ranting accusers who ignore the fact that it was churches, both white and black, that first hired him as a community organizer in the very community where he delivered his sermon today, sound like nuts. These accusers are the very people who attend all-white churches weekly, without a peep.

People who rant about the Black Panthers (when Obama suffered his only political defeat when he opposed incumbent former-Black Panther for his district's House seat!) and about black churches while attending all-white churches, sound so ignorant and paranoid, in the face of such a reasonable man, that this election is becoming a bad joke on both the Confederate flag Dem. defenders and the Rep. sides.

America has grown up, y'all, keep up! People attend worship in their communities. You want desegregation? Move! You'll end schools segregation at the same time!

Posted by: Earthbound | June 15, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

FC,
Agreed, but if he started talking about white people too much, I'd feel as if he were criticizing us! Whats he know about black fathers anyway! Maybe he should talk more about Eskimos. Or maybe he should just talk less, and not run at all. That'd make us all happy, cause I'm really starting to wonder whether he's really just some way-too-extreme Eskimo lovin' commie or something. And as a hardworking white American, I refuse to live in an igloo, thats why I'm voting for McCain!

Posted by: Derm | June 15, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

fc,

We have a opening in our Klaven, come on, your just what we need.

With White love,
Your friends the KKK

Posted by: luke | June 15, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

This is Obama at his best. Speeches, sermons, what's the difference? As long as there is ample time for preparation...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 15, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I see that some Americans are still back in the "good old days", when black people "knew their place".

The Constitution says ALL of us are created equal. I love the Constitution the way it is now. Some people seem to wish they lived in the Old South and it was its own nation and it was all like it was before the Civil War.

Posted by: MarciC | June 15, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Many people have falsely accused Senator Obama as being a racists against white people. I have heard him make similar remarks to African-Americans about responsibility and accountability. He also makes similar statements in his book, "Dreams from My Father."

Although the statistics are higher for African-Americans, the same message is applicable to people of all races.

Obama has said, "I will tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear."

God blessed us with a very special man. The next President of the United States of America. Thanks be to God!!!!

Posted by: Julie | June 15, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

so, i see, even on father's day, men need to be lectured because they are such bad people. what does obama know about fathers that suddenyl makes him an expert on what and how fathers should be and/or are? he didn't have a father. it's scary to imagine the average person voting for him when he talks all of this black BS at a crazy, vicious homophobic black church. blacks account for a tiny percentage of the usa population, but they are in the news constantly. i bet he will not be elected because he is way, way too focused on blacks. white people don't want to see that, especially one who shows up at these vicious black "churches" or the "born-again" white freak "pastors" he met with earlier in the week. i'm really beginning to wonder if he is a black panther or something.

Posted by: fc | June 15, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

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