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Obama Launches Anti-Smear Site

By Shailagh Murray
Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has taken the unprecedented step of launching its own Website to knock down false rumors about the candidate and his wife.

The site, Fight the Smears, lists every one of the Internet-driven whoppers that have surfaced during Obama's campaign, including the supposedly sensational secret videotape -- likely to surface at any moment! -- that has been alleged to show Michelle Obama using the term "whitey" from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ.

The site provides an e-mail form for supporters to "tell your friends the truth" about whatever scurrilous assertion has hit their inbox. "Rush Limbaugh and his fellow right-wing attack-dogs have been spreading baseless rumors about a non-existent video tape showing Michelle Obama using a racial epithet," reads the e-mail related to the "whitey" rumor. "The truth is that no such tape exists, and this entire smear campaign is fabricated."

The site presents "the truth" about Obama's religion (he's Christian, not Muslim) and the elementary school he attended in Indonesia (ordinary and secular, as opposed to a "radical madrassa"). It provides video of Obama leading the Pledge of Allegiance on the Senate floor and a photo of Vice President Cheney swearing in Obama with the new senator's left hand on his family Bible (instead of the Koran).

"The Obama campaign isn't going to let dishonest smears spread across the Internet unanswered," Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a statement. "Whenever challenged with these lies we will aggressively push back with the truth and help our supporters debunk the false rumors floating around the internet. This website is an action center that allows supporters to upload their address books and send emails to all of their friends. It's not enough to just know the truth, we have to be proactive and fight back."

By Web Politics Editor  |  June 12, 2008; 2:25 PM ET
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did anyone check Obama's birth certificate he has posted at the fight the smear site!
Please take a minute and ZOOM the birth certificate!
Obama is a conjob! he had erased it. It is NOT the smartest way to convince me or anyone posting a birth certificate by doodling the birth certificate number!
Obama is a conjob! How come the media is NOT asking about it! Please go ahead and take a look at his website, ZOOM the page where he posted the birth certificate and you shall see it!

Posted by: David | June 19, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Where is his birth certificate?

You can't even get out of the country with the one on his web site.


Where is his birth certificate ??????

Posted by: james | June 16, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

The real issue here is not whether O the II, is a liar, Muslim, etc. The question is whether this Fight the Smears web site is good strategy. Of course the Pro BO people think it's great. The Anti BO people use it to their advantage to pick holes in it and question his veracity. So who will be swayed by the so called LIE vs. TRUTH format. The independents? Tough to say. It's my opinion that one should "Be careful what you wish for". The fact that this is online, instead of a verbal disclaimer, gives people more time to think about what is being said. With politicians that is never a good deal. They all lie, dissemble, shade the truth to some extent. The verbal "misspeak" can always be defended, but not what one writes down deliberately and thoughtfully. Barack, you may come to regret this strategy.

Posted by: Tanya | June 14, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

To: Steve, the La Jolla Republican. ----according to your post, 1) you are racist towards white people, and 2) You think Obama is a Christain who is evil and constantly looks for new stuff to hate. And 3)By studying the US Constitution you can learn about Islam.

You are one funny wack job. Where did you learn that from. Do you hear voices?

Allow me to quote you:

"evidence that Europeans have interbred to the point of idiocy." - Codes words for white people." Whose the real racist Steve?

"Obama is not Muslim. He has never been an adherent of Islam. (He was married in a Christian church." - Obama is a Christian?

"What is it about Christians that makes them so full of hate, suspicion, and blood lust??" - All Christians are evil?

"Good Christians" keep asking about Muslims as you try to find new pretexts for hate." - Good Christians are always on the look out for something to hate?

"read and study the Constitution. When you understand it, you will also understand how much like Islamic Fundamentals you have been for most of your lives" - Reading the US Constitution will help me understand Islam? Really?

You are one crazy mixed up kid. You shoulda paid more attention in school.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 14, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

For anyone who doubts that Obama had a Muslim upbringing and has Muslim roots, read the following from one of his fans at the New York Times.

""I was a little Jakarta street kid," Obama said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on Nicholas D. Kristofs's blog, http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics -- and more likely to be aware of their nationalism -- if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=1&scp=5&sq=nicholas+kristof+obama&st=nyt&oref=slogin

The issue is not that Obama was once a Muslim, it is that he now lies about it.

Posted by: Johnny at Work | June 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Again, it is to Obama's advantage to have these rumors continue because most of them are easy to refute and it takes the focus away from what Obama actually believes which is still somewhat of an unknown at this point. His campaign may also want to create the image of Obama being smeared to make him a sympathetic figure to voters.

That is easier than taking specific stands on issues that could cost him votes.

Personally I don't care if Michelle Obama said whitey or honkie. I don't care if Obama's birth certificate says he is a Muslim. I don't care if he took the oath of office with his hand on the Koran or on a pack of Marlboros for that matter.

I just would like to have more of an idea of what his political and economic philosphy is because he will likely win and I fear we will not know what we are getting because no one was ever able to pin him down because so much time was wasted talking about these rumors.

Maybe that is the way the Obama campaign wants it to be.

Posted by: danielhancock | June 14, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Why are so many of you fixated on seeing Obama's birth certificate anyway? What sort of information do you hope to glean from it? Some of you all remind me of the Lone Gunmen from the X-Files.

Posted by: Piter | June 14, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Barack's campaign is offering up a "CERTIFICATION." That's different. A normal Certificate also includes:

1. No attending physician signature or license number
2. No address for the attending physician or hospital
3. No parent signature
4. No parent DOB or age of parent or parent place of birth.
5. Father's race would not be "African", that is country of origin. Race would be black or Negro (1960's)
6. Was this a single birth or multiple birth.
7. No Registrars name or signature.

Posted by: james popielarz | June 13, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Many of you who have posted anti-Obama, anti-Muslim, anti-thinking trash on this site are evidence that Europeans have interbred to the point of idiocy.

Obama is not Muslim. He has never been an adherent of Islam. (He was married in a Christian church by a Christian minister that you love to hate...remember???)

Imagine if Christianity or Judaism was hijacked by a bunch of thugs who committed crimes in the name of Christ, or in the name of Judaism?

You all would be considered terrorists too!

Since childhood, I have had many friends who were Muslim. I've had friends who were Buddhists, and Hindus, and Taoists, but nowhere have I encountered as much hate as I have from my "fellow" Christians.

What is it about Christians that makes them so full of hate, suspicion, and blood lust??

(Sounds like a question you "Good Christians" keep asking about Muslims as you try to find new pretexts for hate.

Thoughtless, mindless, witless, frightened, fearful little things who will inculcate your children with your idiocy.

You are more like the hate-mongering Islamic fanatics you are so afraid of; and nothing like the thinking Americans who would give their lives to support and perpetuate our Constitution that somehow even gives fools like you the right to be ignorant.

Don't get your "facts" from Fox. Instead, read and study the Constitution. When you understand it, you will also understand how much like Islamic Fundamentals you have been for most of your lives.

Posted by: Steve - La Jolla Republican for Obama | June 13, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Piter: "...How are you supposed to tell who's a good guy and who's a Muslim? KNOW YOUR MUSLIM!"

You've inadvertently hit the nail on the head! If Barack Obama was born into being a Muslim but is hiding this then the message that he's sending loud and clear is that it's bad to be Muslim! If he has "Muslim" listed as his religion on his original birth certificate, not the statement of birth that he posted, then won't that be shame on him!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

SOUNDS TO ME AND I AM CERTAIN TO MILLIONS OF THINKING AMERICANS THAT SOMETHING SMELL BAD IN TH NOBAMA CAMP.

LUCKILY THE LAND OF ISLAM HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY SO THEY ARE ABLE TO GET A WEB SITE IN ORDER TO DEFEND THEIR BOY. SEEMS LIKE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST QUITE CONVINCED OF THIS SWEET TALKING MUSLIN, AND HE REALLY IS HAVING TO DIG DEEP INTO THE FINANCIAL POCKETS OF ISLAM TO GET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BELIEVE HIM. IT DON'T SOUND TOO POSITIVE IF YOU CANNOT SELL YOURSELF AND TELL IT LIKE IT REALLY IS. WELL, WELL - TROUBLE

MUST BE BREWING FOR THIS , "WHOEVER HE IS".hE LIES AND HIS BACKERS SWEAR TO IT, AND NOW OBAMA IS ON THE DEFENSIVE! WITHOUT A DOUBT. THE TWISTED STORY WILL BEGIN AND THE MORE HE DEFENDS AND EXCUSES HIMSELF FOR INNOCENT MISTAKES, THE BIGGER THE HOLE WILL GET

Posted by: lynn parker. | June 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

So, since we know that the Muslims claim him as a brother, and he claims to be a committed Christian, and he once studied the Koran and was listed as a Muslim in school and he says he became a Christian 20 years ago...

Is he an apostate who has denied Muhammad and Allah?

Posted by: Leaping Buck | June 13, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Folks, it's not Obie Wan Baraki's child hood that should worry us!!

It's his current frame of mind and his associations.
1. Criminals indicted for corruption.
2. Socialist politicians dedicated to undermining our nations sovereignty.
3. Crooked "Victim-Grievance" peddlers who claim to be ministers of the Gospel of Christ.
4. Hostile foreign governments who think he is their friend.
5. Hostile terrorist organizations who think he will be their friend.

People - USA is not invincible and we have many enemies. We don't need a dupe or a dope in the office. The last dope we had in the office has screwed us all.

Posted by: Leaping Buck | June 13, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The antismear campaign is simply another smokescreen to detract from the fact that there is great and powerful OZ. Most of us can see his feet underneath the curtain but he hopes we dont ask the questions about his experience, associations with militant pastors and domestic terrorists, poor choices of political bedfellows, etc. The great and powerful Obama needs to be exposed but god forbid if we ask tough questions.

The only smear going on is his attempt to put vaseline on the lense so it is hard for the clear picture to shine through

Posted by: Dave in DC | June 13, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Where is John McCain's birth certificate? Did they have paper birth certificates back then, or were they carved in stone? Maybe pictograms made with berry juice and stag's blood on the cave wall?

I have never heard McCain definitively state that he is not a Muslim. WHY NOT? I guess it's because he IS a Muslim. OMG A MUSLIM IN THE SENATE!!

What are we going to do now America? There may be literally dozens of Muslims living within our borders! You may have eaten food that was prepared by a Muslim! You may have inadvertently said "God bless you" when someone--possibly a Muslim--sneezed! There could be Muslims living in your neighborhood, attending your schools and working in your place of employment!

How are you supposed to tell who's a good guy and who's a Muslim? KNOW YOUR MUSLIM! Muslims always carry at least one assault rifle at all times. Bandoleers of bullets and hand grenades are also popular items. Common Muslim activities include burning American flags, cursing "The Great Satan" America, and mercilessly attacking Christians and American citizens. Muslims exist only to destroy America, so be vigilant in your examination of everyone around you!

Posted by: Piter | June 13, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Is the Anti-Smear site an offensive weapon or a defensive one? It's a matter of degree. Something as apparently simple as "correcting the record" can become some sort of thought police operation - stifling critics by making them fearful to say anything that could be taken the wrong way.

Could Obama or his supporters take politcal correctness into hyper-drive and turn it into bullying and censorship? Sure - look at some of these posts. A powerful but inexperienced leader could easily let that happen.

I hope the "fight the smears" campaign doesn't devolve into the exercise that the current White House used to fight a "smear" by Joe Wilson.

Posted by: Rozinante2 | June 13, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

This is how "Move On.Org" started after the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinski and impeachment vote. We were supposed to "move-on" from this "personal, family matter".

What a crock !!!

Posted by: Jim, Chicago | June 13, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Lesson learned today: People have way too much time on their hands.

Posted by: Perry | June 13, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

iN ADDITION TO IT BEING A NON-CERTIFIED "BIRTH CERTIFICATE", BIRHTS IN 1961 ALSO INCLUDED RELIGION OF INFANT.

Posted by: Steve | June 13, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama has every right to clear up the lies that are spread about him and Michelle.

http://youngdemocratsforchange.com

Posted by: Natalia | June 13, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The revealing thing about AsperGirl is that she is fixated on something that occurred when Obama was a child. She is making him responsible for things he did as a child. Obama did not register himself in the public school in Indonesia, his parent did that. Granting the veracity of what AsperGirl says, if he was registered as a Muslim. He did not make that declaration therefore he is not proven to be a Muslim. We have no idea why he was registered that way since he did not go to a mosque or in any other way practice the religion. One possible reason would be that the vast majority of the students were registered that way and the child had racial differences from his classmates and his mother did not want him religiously different. This way he would not be separated from most of his classmates when the weekly religious studies were undertaken as part of the public school education.

As I understand it his mother practiced no religion but it was necessary to announce a religion in Indonesia, no participation was not an option. The logical conclusion is he was of no religion.

Obama as a young adult became a Christian so that the only religion he ever practiced was Christianity. Obama says that he never was anything but a Christian and since AsperGirl does not know what is in Obama's heart she can not prove otherwise,

What all of this reveals is more about AsperGirl than Obama. What Obama did as a child is meaningless. it is the adult that she is unfairly evaluating on the basis of the child. Studying the Koran especially involuntarily means nothing. There was no other muslim in the family. AsperGirl your argument is illogical your proof is irrelevant and claim that he is lying is a projection of your own behavior.

To summarize, AsperGirl you are a liar.

Posted by: RG | June 13, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Example of what is wrong with Obama's "Smears" website: "lies" that are refuted are too narrowly, cleverly worded.

Let's say a man is accused in a large variety of ways of having an affair with his secretary. There are several facts associated with that belief, including that he takes out hotel rooms during the day for their get-togethers and buys her expensive gifts using company credit cards.

He refuses to answer questions or discuss the issue.

So he puts up a "smears" website saying:

"LIE: I took my secretary to the holiday inn on Main street after the office party two weeks ago"

"LIE: I bought my secretary a white gold necklace using the company VISA card"

"TRUTH: I'm not having an affair with my secretary"

Then he links to specific evidence refuting those narrow lies. But the evidence refuting the narrowly, cleverly worded claims, don't support the general case for the broad "TRUTH" statement.

And in putting out this website, the man continues to refuse to take questions or put out information that is requested.

Why doesn't Obama just provide a real copy of his birth certificate instead of that fake, uncertified, tampered-with image namelessly linked to his website?

Why doesn't Obama just answer why he claims to have "never been Muslim" when he was registered as a Muslim in the Catholic school in Indonesia and when his book states he took "Koranic studies"?

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 13, 2008 5:00 AM | Report abuse

Obama's campaign is now pushing misinformation about him with the cleverly-worded "fight the smears" website.

It's a whole new disingenuously oblique approach to Obama's denial of his ethnicity and childhood religion. An Internet-based disinformation approach.

Obama's still trying to combat and cover up the information that he was registered as a Muslim in his Catholic school as a child, that he attended Muslim classes as a child and that his ethnicity is that of African Arab.

Obama registered as a "Muslim" in the Catholic school he attended as a child in Indonesia. The children who were registered as "Muslim" attended Muslim-focused classes and the children who were registered as "Christian" attended Christian-focused classes. Yet Obama continues to deny that he and his parents elected to identify him as "Muslim" as a child.

Instead of just answering questions about why he was registered as being "Muslim" in the Catholic school he attended as a child in Indonesia, and why his book says that he was in "Koranic studies" if he wasn't registered as a Muslim there, the campaign posts a disingenuous, cleverly-worded, narrow "smear" refutation on its website: "LIE: Barack Obama attended a radical madrassa". (Why don't he answer the FACT of his status at that school in Indonesia, instead of just answering the narrowly-worded "LIE" he posted?) The website answers narrowly-worded questions that no one is asking while ignoring the broader questions.

And why does Obama still refuse to provide a copy of his birth certificate? -- Because he is identified on that birth certificate as being Arab, since his father was an African Arab. There are many ethnicities in Africa, ranging from the black Jews of Ethiopia to the black Arabs of the Sudan who are committing genocide against non-Arab Africans of Darfour. Obama's father was identified as "Arab" in his Kenyan birth records and Obama's identified as an "Arab" on his own, with "Muslim" as the religion.

What little, specific and real investigative reporting that has been done on the subject has clearly not supported the stories the Obama campaign has been pushing.

LA TImes Story on Facts About Obama's Religion in Childhood
(http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,1,7181735,full.story)

Now mainstream media is all repeated "never been a Muslim". Chris Matthews on MSNBC declared on 06/13 "never been a Muslim, never been trained in teh religion". In his own book, Barack Obama describes how he got in trouble in his "Koranic studies" class for making faces during class.

The problem I have with all of this is not what ethnicity or childhood religion Obama has. The problem I have is with a man who is running for President who consistently covers up and evades disclosure about who he is and the kind of people he has spent his adult life hanging around with, in order to be more popular. The problem is not his ethnicity or religion, but his misrepresenting himself during an American presidential campaign.

And finally, a faked image scan of what appears to be Obama's birth certificate is linked to the webpage, but it looks like a fake, its certificate number is blacked out, it's not certified and there's no explanation as to who it came from (birth certificates in Hawaii aren't publicly available) and vouching for its authenticity. It's not certified when Hawaii state code provides that certificates issued by the department of health be certified. It is a fake.

Why won't the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally, directly and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate? The mystery "birth certificate" that first mysteriously appeared on dailykos is a fake.

How can a man run for President while refusing to disclose his birth certificate?

Why doesn't he just take questions about these things instead of putting up a cleverly-worded website and "refuting" only narrow questions no one is asking while refusing to answer the larger questions?

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 13, 2008 4:04 AM | Report abuse

Some reporter should ask Obama about the fake "birth certificate" that mysteriously appeared today, linked to his smears website.

The "birth certificate" just appeared Thursday morning on dailykos without any reference as to who released it or where it came from.

There is a link from the fightthesmears website to "the truth" posting on mybarackobama.com to it without any reference explicitly stating what it is or its provenance. (i.e. there is so "this is Barack Obama's birth certificate provided to dailykos by person xxx of the Obama campaign")

There is no provenance, journalistic or otherwise, explaining where the "birth certificate" comes from. In Hawaii, birth certificates aren't publicly available and reporters' requests for one have been ignored for months.

There is no explanation at all as to whom in Obama's family or campaign vouches for its origins or its authenticity.

The certificate number is blacked out. Why?

There are image artifacts consistent with forgeries and/or image processing that would operate on text differently than background (it has the image traits of a forgery). It's not a real, unprocessed scan of a birth certificate.

It's not certified when Hawaii state code provides that certificates issued by the department of health be certified.

"§338-13 Certified copies.
(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
(b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original,..."

Doe the Obama campaign have a statement on this "birth certificate" that the fight the smears website is inked to?

Isn't this whole "birth certificate" issue getting to be a lot of weird by now?

How can a man run for President without disclosing his birth certificate?

Why won't the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally, directly and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate?

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 13, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Only 1 thing to point out, you will never know who the man is until he is voted in.

Not saying I like him, or dislike, for that matter.

Just that he could be another Bush, or he could be the Iraqis way of getting back!

Just shut up and stop voting, wait until someone wins on their own. Why should we be the ones to choose who becomes president, but not choose the right person for the job?

We can't run an entire country, thats their job! They should be the only ones that are allowed to choose, but more or less be required!

We never have a choice, they already chose, before it started.
There are several hundred, if not thousands, of movies and theories explaining this.

They choose, we wait for a speech, we vote.
They already voted, we wait to see who they chose, we vote some more.
We wait, they tell us the outcome, we never get what we wanted.

Is Barrack right? What about Clinton? Or McCain?
Do we really want any of them in office?
Okay, so those are our choices, but why are they so few?
How many start the race?
How many finish?
Who are these finishers?
They have money, that we want, but they wont give us!?
But we voted for them?!
We all want to be rich, and have beautiful companions, with thirty children... But who wants to work for it?

This should be a poem of the "average" Americans' ignorance .
But instead is the truth, of every American, and please do deny it... Can you handle the truth!

Posted by: None | June 13, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

How come the Obama smear site doesn't have a rumor debunker request line? I want to know if it's true that obama's baby mama never voted in an election prior to to her husband running for the Illinois state Senate.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 3:32 AM | Report abuse

The information on Obama's "Smear" site points to evdence that Michelle Obama did have a speaking role at the Rainbow/Push conference where she is alleged to have had a "whitey" rant.

Full details are on the "Smear" site and here:

http://www.nationaleconomist.com/2008/06/obama-site-adds-evidence-that-michelle.html


You would think that a Harvard lawyer would not offer evidence that puts his client in the time and place that an alleged crime was committed.

It creates what is needed to convict - opportunity.

I sure would not want O'Boy representing me if my life depended on it.

Come to think of it, all our lives depend on it.

McCain '08

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 3:22 AM | Report abuse

OMG! I can already hear the O'Bombasamabots!

It must have been an "Immaculate" Misconception!

Our "Messiah" has Ricin-Oops-Been Ridden!

I mean, is Getting Up! :-/

Posted by: RAT-The | June 13, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

"...The Birth cert you see is the same that you would be issued if you wanted a copy of your own from the state you were born in."

That sure as hell doesn't look like my birth certificate. Obama's campaign is constantly creating problems for him. Who was the idiot within that didn't realize that by posting a statement of birth rather then a birth certificate would look like obama was trying to hide something! Why is he hiding the birth cert that lists his religion? Surely the birth certificate would have answered the religion question posted on the Obama rumor debunking site. Is there a birth name on the original that he doesn't want us to see? If they weren't going to post a birth cert then they shouldn't have posted anything at all.

You obama supporters better hope he's got the media on his side to the same extent he did when he was running against Senator Clinton or Barack is toast! If it weren't for the media and the DNC, Axelrod would have driven his campaign into the ground long ago. Just look what he did to poor Michelle! Nobody likes her thanks to the campaign's image makers!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

To: Posted by: DanW |

I have a copy of my ORIGINAL Certificate of Birth. It has a raised seal and signatures from the DOH Commissioner and Registrar of Vital Records.

The Certification that Obama has provided on the site is not a copy of an ORIGINAL Certificate of Birth. And, it has no raised seal, and no signatures.

The document that Obama has provided is a one that is issued for births that are recorded long after the actual birth took place.

In other words, Obamas document was not recorded at the date of his birth. And it is not a Certified document.

Obama had to provide evidence of his birth in Hawaii to the Hawaii DOH in order for the DOH to provide a Document to Obama.

My questions are:
1) Why wasn't a Certificate of Birth recorded in 1961 when Obama was born?
2) What evidence did Obama later provide to Hawaii DOH to proove he was born in Hawaii? and When did he provide it?
3) Why is Obama issuing a document that is not certified, and does not have a raised seal as proof of citizenship?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

"The "Certification of Birth" raises more questions than it answers. It is not an original, and bears no seal and signature of Certification. This type of certificate is issued when a person claims to be born in Hawaii, long after the actual birth."

Actually you perpetuate a lie. No One has their original birth certificate as it is sent to the Dept of Vital Statistics. The Birth cert you see is the same that you would be issued if you wanted a copy of your own from the state you were born in. If you want to SEE a copy of the original you must go the the Bureau Of Vital Statistics.

Don't perpetuate a lie. It is usual for the right, however, it should not be tolerated by anyone.

If you want to perpetuate a lie try using all of Bush's propaganda to get us into a war in Iraq!

Posted by: DanW | June 13, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 12, 2008 7:40 PM
"Isn't there a psychological term for Guilty People exposing themselves though Proclamations of innocence, or something similar?

Sort of like Thieves being the one's afraid of being Robbed!"

Yes there is a phrase from Chinese "A guilty person needs no accusor".

O'Boy is sure acting guilty and not exactly offering hard evidence to refute the charges against him.

The "Certification of Birth" raises more questions than it answers. It is not an original, and bears no seal and signature of Certification. This type of certificate is issued when a person claims to be born in Hawaii, long after the actual birth.

The site does not deny that Michelle said whitey in a fit of anger, it merely attempts to refute the existance of a tape.

The site claims Larry Johnson did not offer a 9:00 am update about the tape, but Larry did offer an update, and has had continuing updates as he receives information.

Other posters have pointed out that Obama himself in his book said he was registered as a Muslim and studied the Koran while attending school in Indonesia.

Obama wants to refute what he claims are unfounded rumors, but this site is actually turning those rumors into facts.


Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

It is my belief that this is one of the smartest moves ever made by any presidential candidate. It seems to be a wonderful idea to defend against untruths

Posted by: judy | June 13, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

I did not think there was anything to the Obama Birth Certificate story until seeing the document on Obama's "Fight the Smears" site.

This certificate is what the Hawaii DOH calls a "Late" Certificate of Birth, and it is not an original Birth Certificate recorded at the date of actual birth.

In Hawaii, anyone can claim they were born there and submit the evidence years after the birth to obtain a late "Certificate of Birth".

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/latereg.html

"Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration? As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration: Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person's parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth.

Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the event's occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements.

Perhaps Obama had his typical white grandmother sign an affidavit to submit as evidence of Hawaii birth.

Why wasn't there an original certificate filed at the time of birth? Was Barak born in a hospital? The Obots think he was born in a manger.

An original Hawaii Certificate of Birth has the actual place of birth, i.e. home, hospital, or manger, and the physical address (no PO boxes please)

An original also has the signiture of the attending physician, or other designated attendee.

The physical addresses of both parents are also listed on an original Certificate of Birth.

So, Barak has some splainin to do. What evidence did he submit to obtain this "late" Certificate of Birth.

The plot thickens.....

Posted by: Johnny at Work | June 13, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

What a relief that we're just months away from being able to feel clean again.
These last 8 years of 'republican revolution ' has been like sitting in a tub of someone else's cold dirty bath water.

Posted by: Conrad | June 13, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

There are only two ways McCain can be elected, if Senator Clinton is the vice-presidential nominee and through the usual GOP smear campaign tactics. This is a wise action by Barack and his advisers. He is never going to win the votes of those who are bigots, but he may be successful in reassuring some, who may have been misinformed about certain issues.

The further McCain falls behind in the polls and the closer the election, the more the GOP will resort to smear, fearmongering tactics. In this election though, with the unpopular war in Iraq and the economic difficulties faced by most Americans, the GOP will hopefully, as well as likely fail.

Posted by: Independent | June 13, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

I think what Obama is doing is quite admirable. Too many people rely on pundits for their news - hopefully they'll get the truth instead. It's one thing to be disliked because of your polices, but something entirely different to be hated because of propaganda.
Julie - if you'd dug just a little deeper you would have found this:
"No such tape exists. Michelle Obama has not spoken from the pulpit at Trinity and has not used that word."

Posted by: Greaves | June 13, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

I notice on the anti smear website that it states that no tape exists but it does not state whether or not she said it.

Posted by: Julie | June 12, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama puts into words and actions what many of us have known to be true. My prayers are with him. I believe that the world will be safer for my grandchildren because of him.

Posted by: susanj | June 12, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

One more thing, what's wrong with a muslim becoming president?
I thought this was AMERICA, isn't it?
Some claim to be true patriots but make statements that sound more like they're the Taliban.
I'm not muslim but I don't discredit or dismiss people b/c they are.

Posted by: priceisright | June 12, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey AsperGirl,

Try asking McCain about his? He definately was not born in the US and US military installations are not classified as part of the US.
You are suggesting a sitting US Senator, who has had a security clearance (secret, top, classified, etc.), whether he is a US citizen?
What do you think the FBI just glanced over that detail?
They are both citizens, think...
If you are suggesting he is not American in the sense of his commitment to this country, we thinking people call that McCartyism.

Posted by: priceisright | June 12, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

It's disgusting that a young, intelligent, caring man is smeared for wanting nothing more than to help the middle class and poor in this country. Who else has the guts to run for president under these circumstances? Would you?

I have nothing but respect for the way Senator and Mrs. Obama have treated their opponents and run their campaign so far. Like millions of others, I will vote for him no matter what, so do your dirtiest, Republicans, because he will win.

Posted by: MJ | June 12, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama's campaign is now pushing misinformation about him via a new "fight the smears" website.

It's a whole new disingenuously oblique approach to Obama's denial of his ethnicity and childhood religion. An Internet-based disinformation approach.

Obama's still trying to combat and cover up the information that he was registered as a Muslim in his Catholic school as a child, that he attended Muslim classes as a child and that his ethnicity is that of African Arab.

Obama registered as a "Muslim" in the Catholic school he attended as a child in Indonesia. The children who were registered as "Muslim" attended Muslim-focused classes and the children who were registered as "Christian" attended Christian-focused classes. In his own book, he describes how he got in trouble in his "Koranic studies" class for making faces during class. Yet Obama continues to deny that he and his parents elected to identify him as "Muslim" as a child.

Instead of just answering questions about why he was registered as being "Muslim" in the Catholic school he attended as a child in Indonesia, and why his book says that he was in "Koranic studies" if he wasn't registered as a Muslim there, the campaign posts a disingenuous, cleverly-worded, narrow "smear" refutation on its website: "LIE: Barack Obama attended a radical madrassa". (Why don't he answer the FACT of his status at that school in Indonesia, instead of just answering the narrowly-worded "LIE" he posted?) The website answers narrowly-worded questions that no one is asking while ignoring the broader questions.

And why does Obama still refuse to provide a copy of his birth certificate? -- Because he is identified on that birth certificate as being Arab, since his father was an African Arab. There are many ethnicities in Africa, ranging from the black Jews of Ethiopia to the black Arabs of the Sudan who are committing genocide against non-Arab Africans of Darfour. Obama's father was identified as "Arab" in his Kenyan birth records and Obama's identified as an "Arab" on his own, with "Muslim" as the religion.

What little, specific and real investigative reporting that has been done on the subject has clearly not supported the stories the Obama campaign has been pushing.

LA TImes Story on Facts About Obama's Religion in Childhood
(http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,1,7181735,full.story)

The problem I have with all of this is not what ethnicity or childhood religion Obama has. The problem I have is with a man who is running for President who consistently covers up and evades disclosure about who he is and the kind of people he has spent his adult life hanging around with, in order to be more popular. The problem is not his ethnicity or religion, but his misrepresenting himself during an American presidential campaign.

And finally, a faked image scan of what appears to be Obama's birth certificate is linked to the webpage, but it looks like a fake, its certificate number is blacked out, it's not certified and there's no explanation as to who it came from (birth certificates in Hawaii aren't publicly available) and vouching for its authenticity. It's not certified when Hawaii state code provides that certificates issued by the department of health be certified. It is a fake.

Why won't the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally, directly and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate? The mystery "birth certificate" that first mysteriously appeared on dailykos is a fake.

How can a man run for President while refusing to disclose his birth certificate?

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 12, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Some reporter should ask the Obama campaign about his fake "birth certificate" that mysteriously appeared today, linked to his smears website.

Why, it suddenly just appeared today on dailykos without any reference as to who released it or where it came from (in Hawaii, birth certificates aren't publicly available and reporters' requests for one have been ignored for months).

There is a link from "mybarackobama.com" to it without any reference explicitly stating what it is or its provenance.

There is no provenance, journalistic or otherwise.

There is no explanation at all as to where it came from or who in Obama's family or campaign vouches for its origins or its authenticity.

The certificate number is blacked out.

There are image processing effects consistent with forgeries and/or image processing that would operate on text differently than background (it has the imaging traits of a forgery).

It's not certified when Hawaii state code requires that certificates issued by the department of health be certified.

"§338-13 Certified copies.
(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
(b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original,..."

Why won't the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally, directly and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate?

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 12, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

OK, Who thinks this Site survives two days, before "Bus of O'Bomba" runs over it?

Sure looks like Bus Food to me! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 12, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, if you are right, you do not have to defend yourself, neither spend money on a web-site, voters money, to defend comments made about you. When you take this recurse, it demonstrate very clearly that you are lying. Being offensive only declares you are not telling the truth and this is what Obama is doing with that web-site. All he has done is raise more ???'s about him. Not too many voters know anything about him and whatever is commented about him it will be spread very quickly as true and it is going to raise doubts about him all together, anyway. That is what he deserves ( and the DNC ) for stealing the primaries from Hillary. He will loose the elections in November, no matter what he does to clarify his identity or his wife's stupid commens on tv, for sure. There was a Democratic supporter, who was interviwed on the news and she said this " you can put lipstick on a monkey, that will not change it's identity, it will still be a monkey". Michelle Obama deserves the comments made about her speeches, she made them and put herself on the podium with a microphone, just for doing that and speaking, she opened doors to be critized. This is why Mrs. McCain has been more elegant and more "smarted"; staying aside and allowing her husban run his campaign. Michelle wanted attention, there you have it!!!

Posted by: OBAMA - WILL LOOSE | June 12, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

John Kerry should have done what Obama is doing in debunking all this crap the Repukes are throwing at him. Go Obama Go, we love you!

Posted by: sanang | June 12, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Actually, the Obama campaign should start a site that creates or sustains these ridiculous rumors about him because it makes him a sympathetic figure and takes attention away from his half baked ideas, relative inexperience, and lack of acheivements in political office.

Posted by: danielhancock | June 12, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

How dare any one question the messiah?If you do,its called"smear" and you are all racists.

Posted by: sa | June 12, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Katie, Campbell and Candy are blaming the Republicans; behind this schmuckscreen, though, lurk the spiteful Ms. Inevitable's hissy snit brigade & butchy on-strappers.

Posted by: sawargos | June 12, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Isn't there a psychological term for Guilty People exposing themselves though Proclamations of innocence, or something similar?

Sort of like Thieves being the one's afraid of being Robbed!

Paging; Dr. Freud... ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 12, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

SLEEZE = the new spelling for the religious right wing republican bigots.

And...I really don't worry about speling in heer, I am edjukated. Ain't you?

Posted by: Daddio on the Paddio | June 12, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, when faced with the possibility that the debunking might be bunk, the breathess Obama beatifiers run for cover. You won't admit that the fact-checkers need to check Obama's "facts," too. (BTW, the word is "sleaze.")

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Attacking "Barry" the Empty Suit!

Shameful! Barack Hussein should be left alone.

He did his "Time". He deserves a "Second Chance" ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | June 12, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, when faced with facts debunking Republican sleeze, obfuscate by intimating the facts are not real. Nice try Ruderunner, but we are not so complacent as the vanilla suburbanite you take us to be!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Is the WaPo and other MSM going to fact-check Obama's website? Or are you going to believe all of his explanations?

Posted by: Roadtripper | June 12, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Shhhh! Don't tell anybody, but Karl Rove is a gay black transvestite.

Makes as much sense as Obama being Muslim!

C'mon you sleezoid Republicans, try something original and honest for a change!

Posted by: Daddio on the Paddio | June 12, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm genuinely surprised (and not in a good way) about some of the commenters' logic and professed detail knowledge here. Obama's birth certificate is available on http://www.fightthesmears.com

Since Wright was a preacher in his church, where he was married and his daughters baptized, Obama is obviously not a Muslim (duh!).

And are you saying that, since Fred Phelps' Baptist church advocates "God hates Fags" and Hagee stated that Katrina happened because God wanted to teach sinful New Orleans a lesson, GWB, by association, hates gay people and African Americans?

See, the logic doesn't hold. Please revisit your critical thinking books from eighth grade.

Posted by: charlotte | June 12, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Obama people are reading this, they can debunk all the BS that's right here.

It's amazing how truly stupid or gullible some people are. If you don't like someone (for whatever reason), you buy into whatever it is, hook, line, and sinker.

Good for Obama for tackling this head on.

(On a side note: Are you a first class snarker? I am looking for YOU! You're gonna love this! Come join the fun and tell us why YOU are voting Republican.)

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Here is the web site - the link is in the article

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

Posted by: VirginiaGal2 | June 12, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Actually, all politicians have many many acquaintances and friends. All of them have some that are questionable - becuase no one, including any of us posting, vet our acquaintances at the level that presidential candidates get. Your friends and neighbors probably include people that would scare you if you really knew all.

Obama is not a socialist, and his ideas specifically focus on making change in a positive, collaborative, non-oppressive way. The guy has good thoughts and has shown real leadership in getting things done.

Obama is not a Muslim.

Obama hasn't refused to make his birth certificate public. Why hasn't McCain made his birth certificate public? Why don't you? Answer - because there's no reason to do so. What does your birth certificate show that's relevant? Nothing. It's another goofy slur and a stupid idea.

The guy is smart smart smart - he has excellent, practical ideas. I hope we are smart enough to put him into the White House.

The tinfoil hat posts here make it clear why such a web site is necessary. However, I think we, the voters, are smart enough to see when we're being played as fools. I for one don't appreciate these tactics and they reflect VERY poorly on McCain, who has not denounced them.

Posted by: VirginiaGal2 | June 12, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Pfleger,and johnson are all one needs to know about. But add to that Obama's socialist nature and desire to have the govt take our freedoms 1 by 1 because that is what socialists do. That is why so many liberal sites block conservatives from voicing their thoughts; that is exactly the way our freedoms are going to go if the Muslim man gets in. Why won't Obama make his birth certificate public? It is because he doesn't want us to see more truth about his name and origin. We should have the right to see it though if he may be in the white House. He knows nothing. He has done nothing. He wants to sit and talk with Iran's leaderwithout preconditions. Liberals whine on and on but when conservatives voice their opinions, we are smearing. God in Heaven help us all if people are really stupid enough to put this joker in the White House.

Posted by: Poopdoodle | June 12, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

What is the address of the anti smear site?? Is it www.TheObamaPlan.com ?? I havnt been able to find it? What is the site.

Posted by: Mike | June 12, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Of course this website lets the same people post and repost some of these smears and personal attack. So WaPo = part of the problem. Since McCain is the candidate of the beltway insiders, i guess no one should be surprised.

Posted by: Julian | June 12, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Rezko_friend_scrubs_evidence_of_2004_0130.html

On Tuesday, ABC News first reported the existence of photos showing Auchi meeting with Gov. Blagojevich on the website Middle East Online. The link on the website that the report pointed to, which said that "businessmen, and congressmen" also met with Auchi, is now gone.

Senator Obama's ties to Tony Rezko, a longtime patron who helped him finance his political campaigns, have shadowed the candidate since he entered the 2008 race for president. But public attention to the relationship has grown since Senator Hillary Clinton brought up Rezko in the last Democratic presidential debate in South Carolina. Clinton's campaign has used Rezko to imply that Obama's hands are not as clean as he likes to portray them to be.

Auchi, a native of Iraq who lives in Great Britain, has a colorful past of his own. The businessman set up a variety of deals with Saddam Hussein's regime prior to the 1991 Gulf War, and was one of the largest private shareholders in BNP Paribas, the bank that trafficked most of the funds involved in the UN Oil-For-Food scandal. He also admitted taking kickbacks from the French petroleum company TotalFinaElf in the 1990s (Auchi later sued Elf for entangling him in their criminal activities, according to Forbes)
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Auchi had extensive commercial ties with Rezko, including the $130 million purchase of a property development near downtown Chicago from the indicted businessman. In 2004, according to Crain's Chicago Business, Rezko brought Auchi to Illinois for the aforementioned meeting with Blagojevich and other government officials in Illinois. Blagojevich promised at the time that he was "ready to provide the necessary means for [GMH's investments] to succeed."

More recently, according to the FBI, Rezko had contacted "certain Illinois government officials" to help Auchi get a visa to the United States. Although the senator has stated that he did not work in any way to help Auchi receive a visa, news accounts raised questions of whether Rezko may at one time have introduced Obama to Auchi.

When he was running for the Senate, Mr. Obama stopped by to shake hands while Mr. Rezko, an immigrant from Syria, was entertaining Middle Eastern bankers considering an investment in one of his projects," the New York Times reported in June 2007.

But Obama's campaign says that the senator never met with Auchi.
"He has no recollection of ever meeting him," wrote campaign spokesman Bill Burton in an e-mail to RAW STORY.

Another interesting thing about Auchi:
He was charged, along with Saddam Hussein, for conspiring to assassinate Prime minister (president) Abdul Karim Qasim and stood trial in 1959. (Auchi gave fellow Baath Party members machine guns from his home for Saddam Hussein.) He was convicted, then pardoned by Qasim.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

priceisright said:
"Hey BillW give it a rest, will ya. we had to live through your boy GW disaster of a presidency. its your turn to live with our choice. that's the problem with your folks, greed. always wanting more and yet never willing to share.the items you list aren't serious problems or problems at all.stop projecting your own fear and intolerance on others "

You assume. Not good. I think Bush is the worst thing that ever happened to the country. The absolute worst. Concerning greed? You won't find anyone more against greed than me. Greed either destroys, screws up, or exploits most all good things. Fear? What I fear is dealing with something in control that cannot be trusted, and I feel McCain is the lesser of two choices here.

Posted by: Billw | June 12, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh hell yeah! Go get 'em Obama! Obama and his campaign team realize that the internet is quickly becoming the main starting source of 24/7 political news cycle.

Obama is making sure he won't be "swift-boated" in traditional news media, like TV and newsprint, as well as the Internet!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | June 12, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey BillW
give it a rest, will ya. we had to live through your boy GW disaster of a presidency. its your turn to live with our choice.
that's the problem with your folks, greed. always wanting more and yet never willing to share.
the items you list aren't serious problems or problems at all.
stop projecting your own fear and intolerance on others...

Posted by: priceisright | June 12, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Why does Obama have to have experience to run for President? jimmy Carter and others had not one Iota of experience. Just sad how you claim to know something and take the ass by the tail!

Posted by: Robert W | June 12, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Seems like you don't know much. And your post is full of the lies that, unfortunately, Obama has to rebut.

He has 3 years in the Senate, 8 years in the Illinois state Senate, 12 years teaching law at a top law school, and work experience for private companies and non-profits. That's a lot of experience. The man also has significant brains and won top academic honors at Harvard - and I admire intelligence.

He isn't a Baptist.

He has suggested talking to our enemies - not a bad idea.

Do you vet all of your acquaintances? Odds are, if you got that level of scrutiny, you'd find among hundreds and thousands of people, a few that had skeletons in their closet. McCain's acquaintances are much, much WORSE, not better.

Tax breaks for people making low and moderate income, IMHO, is a lot better idea than tax breaks for the rich. It's one of the reasons I support him.

He's not a Muslim, and the school he attended was a public school in Indonesia. Honestly, I think all of our leaders ought to study the Koran, to know a little bit more about the rest of the world. Knowledge is a good thing - being obstinately stupid is not helpful, as our current president demonstrates.

His book is about accepting his racial heritage and shows a generosity of spirit that you appear to have missed. In fact, the supposed quote you give IS NOT IN THE BOOK.

From factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

"Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father": Nothing like this quote appears in Obama's books."

In other words, that part of your post is a complete lie, not just a distortion as the rest of your note.

Obama was raised by his grandmother and his single mom, who was on food stamps at some points, and achieved where he was through scholarships and hard work. Hardly an elitist.

I've called people of both sexes "sweetie", an annoying habit, but sorry, nothing worse.

He hasn't flip flopped nearly as much as McCain, and has really tried to steer his own course. McCain is pretty much "flipper, king of the sea" any more, and is capitalizing on his former stances with a totally different platform.

Posted by: VirginiaGal2 | June 12, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

IS OBAMA THE MAN WE KNOW ?

The Baptist Preacher man is on a roll. He has 2 years experience in the Senate. No problem, the dude has charisma, that'll sway Vladimir Putin of Russia. Baggage and bad judgment? Hey, Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Pfleger, and Johnson - those were not the men he thought he knew.. Guts? he didn't want to appear a woman-basher, that's why he refused further debate with Clinton. $2000 tax breaks? Well Bush bought his way in first, didn't he? By the way, his pastor friend and mentor of 20 years, the racist reverend Wright gave Farrakhan a life-time achievement award? Hey now really, that's guilt by association, I just gave his church $500 per week as a gesture of good faith. Me a Muslim? I only studied the Koran for 2 years, no big deal. My statement in my book "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race." makes me a racist? Now there you go again, pulling the race card... I'm an elitist? Look here now, my San Francisco remark about small town people was just a slip of the tongue during a private meeting, and the "Sweetie remark" to a stranger was just a thing I do, no offense intended. I'd probably do the same to the Queen of England. I changed my mind on the tax cut, the death penalty, Iraq, the occupation of Palestine, etc? Hey, I try to be flexible and meet the needs of the day..... Obama light, the voice of change - with the wind, that is.

Posted by: Billw | June 12, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

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