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Obama Tells Hispanic Leaders McCain "Walked Away" from Immigration Issue

By Amy Goldstein
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) yesterday accused Republican Sen. John McCain of retreating from a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws the Arizona senator had championed in Congress, contending that his rival for the White House "walked away" from his own legislation in order to win the GOP presidential primary.

"When he was running for his party's nomination, he walked away from that commitment," Obama told a gathering of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, at which the two candidates appeared separately to woo Hispanic votes.

McCain, who spoke prior to Obama's appearance, insisted that immigration "will be my top priority yesterday, today and tomorrow." He said the federal government eventually should create a method for immigrants living in the U.S. illegally to become citizens, in addition to strengthening security measures to prevent foreigners from sneaking across the borders.

The broad immigration bill that stalled in Congress -- which McCain co-sponsored with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) -- would have pursued both goals at once. But beginning last fall, McCain began to address the fact that political reality dictates that stricter enforcement must come first. The legislation "wasn't very popular ... in my party," he acknowledged yesterday. "We will not succeed in the Congress until we can convince the majority of the American people we have border security."

A McCain campaign spokesman shot back at Obama's characterization of the issue. "It's quite audacious for Barack Obama to question John McCain's commitment to immigration reform when it was Obama himself who worked to kill the Senate's bipartisan immigration reform compromise last year," the spokesman, Brian Rogers, said in a statement that noted the Democrat had voted for five amendments "designed by special interests to kill the immigration reform deal."

The sparring over immigration erupted as the two parties' presumptive nominees made one of their first back-to-back appearances at the same event in the general election campaign. Their immediate audience was the several hundred Latino officials convened this weekend at a downtown Washington hotel. But the candidates' messages were intended for Latinos around the country, who have emerged as the nation's second-largest minority group and could prove a pivotal constituency in the November elections.

During the long Democratic primary period, Obama drew significantly fewer votes from Hispanics than his main opponent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.). Recent polls suggest that Obama has far greater support within that group than McCain. A Gallup Polll this month found that 66 percent of Hispanics said they favored Obama, while 29 percent said they supported McCain -- far below the estimated 40 percent of Latinos who voted for President Bush four years ago in a record showing for a GOP presidential candidate.

That imbalance in support was evident in the ballroom where the two men spoke yesterday. McCain was interrupted three times by anti-war hecklers, and the warm applause he drew was eclipsed by long, boisterous cheering that greeted Obama when he took the stage a half-hour later.

McCain began his remarks by criticizing his rival for not agreeing to share the stage with him, a reference to the series of joint "town hall" meetings he has proposed, an invitation that Obama has sidestepped so far.

Each candidate sought to demonstrate that Latinos in particular would be beneficiaries of his policies on a range of issues, including health care, education, trade and the Iraq war, in addition to immigration. For his part, Obama tried repeatedly in his remarks to show that Latino and African-American voters -- groups whose political interests have not always been aligned -- have a common cause in his election.

Despite yesterday's barbs, McCain and Obama's views on immigration overlap to some degree. Each supports stepped-up enforcement of the nation's borders, although Obama has been more critical of a fence along the Mexican border the Bush administration wants to build. And both men, to varying extents, believe that illegal citizens should be required to surmount certain hurdles before applying for citizenship, and wait in turn behind legal immigrants who often linger in limbo for years waiting the government to review their applications.

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Obama Sent Invitation from Ex-Ecuadorian Immigration Minister to Visit Ecuador


His brother and cousin are Marines. His sisters are college graduates, and his mother still lives in NY. Now the man, who illegally migrated to the United States, risking life, and limb to help achieve those American dreams, is inviting Presidential candidate Barack Obama to visit Ecuador to discuss immigration reform.


New York, NY - June 26, 2008 - William Murillo was only 18 years old when he sought legal entry into the "land of opportunity," but at the American Embassy in Ecuador, his visa and opportunity were denied. "I decided to go to the States in any way possible," says Murillo, and that is what he did. Nearly two decades later he is trying to bring increased attention to the immigration issue by inviting Senator Obama to Ecuador during his historic Presidential campaign.


"I want Senator Obama to experience first hand the human cost of current immigration policies. We are talking about human beings affected by the cruel realities of migration around the globe," says Murillo. His own journey lasted 39 days, "throughout the process I crossed several borders in Central America, I was being shot at while crossing borders, they abandoned us in the forest at our luck. I walked, I swung, I ran, I escaped regular and immigration police, with my cousin and 2 friends." Once arriving in New York City, Murillo lived in the shadows for 14 years, working low paying jobs and constantly fearing deportation until finally his hard work paid off. After working as Founder/ Director of Campaign for Alianza Pais in the US, to get Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa Delgado elected, he became the Ecuador's first and youngest Immigration Minister, at 33.


In a letter that could be only be described as tragic, resilient, and triumphant, Murillo encourages Senator Obama to "visit the humble houses of migrant families," and to "receive letters from children addressing to their parents living in other countries." Murillo believes that Obama's visit would help on two fronts; first, it would offer inspiration to those in Latin America whose countries are not providing opportunity thus driving away hard working citizens. Secondly, it could "send a loud and clear message to the Latino voters in the United States that Obama is the man for the job."


Immigration has long been a sensitive issue in the world, and has become "white-hot" during these tough economic times in the U.S and Europe. Having Obama visit "the heart" of Latin America during a Presidential Campaign would not only be historic, but Murillo hopes it will be beneficial. "His visit could help fuel a renewed vision in Latin America and around the globe that focuses on peace and integration, rather than wars and borders." Murillo believes that Obama's "change and hope theme" is so relevant in Ecuador and Latin America, that he will open up an office to support Senator Obama's campaign from Ecuador with volunteers in Quito, the capital of Ecuador.


"While Mr. McCain will visit Colombia and support the war on drugs, I'm inviting Mr. Obama to visit Ecuador and support peace, while McCain will give more money for guns and military spending, I'm inviting Mr. Obama to support the immigrant families and talk about the future of his immigration reform," mentioned Murillo. "The decisions made by the next president of the US, will have a direct impact on the lives of millions of my fellow Ecuadorian citizens, not just in Ecuador, but in Latin America and around the world." " The wave of leftist leaders taking power in Latin America is not coincidental, it responds to the lack of opportunities in our lands, and if we don't do something about it between government and civil organizations, the end result will inevitably be more migration, either legal or illegally," Murillo concluded.


"It is possible for Ecuadorians to build our own destiny, I remember the days when my first job was washing cars in the winter in New York, then I went to "better job" washing dishes, then I cleaned bathrooms. After that I went to clean yards and became a gardener and landscaper, then to a factory and to several other jobs, finally end up as Immigration Minister of my country," explains Murillo. I believe the Ecuadorian dream is also possible with hard work, dedication and hope in the future, just as Mr. Obama is preaching in the States."


About William Murillo:

William Murillo was the first Minister of Immigrations for Ecuador (SENAMI) under President Rafael Correa Delgado. He has worked actively on a number of campaigns, and currently is the CEO of www.1700migrante.com a company specializing in legal immigration services.


For more info, in English please contact William Murillo at

Posted by: William Murillo | July 5, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Sure the John McCain's and Ted Kennedy's immigration bill was a bad plan and it was justifiably defeated.

Among other things, it called for undocumented workers to come forward pay a fine and return to the native country and apply for admission to the U.S. Basically the bill called for them to risk all on an application that may or may not be approved. Say what you want about illegal immigrants but they are not stupid.

This plan would have failed and it would have been back to the status quo. Maybe that was the intent.

That being said, it appears from the article that Obama other than criticizing McCain for walking away from the issue said nothing other than using the buzz word, "border security." What is McCain supposed to do, contunue to advocate a plan which has been repudiated? Why should he particularly when Obama will just stay and the background and offer nothing specific other than criticism of McCain?

During the campaign Obama has said little on this issue other than the awkward moment during a debate when the Democratic candidates were asked about granting drivers licenses to undocumented workers. Even at that, he basically critized Hillary Clinton for giving a wishy-washy answer. But later when Obama and John Edwards were asked the same question, they both gave similarly evasive answers.

Is this what the campaign is going to be? Is it just going to be Obama criticizing McCain but not offering anything specific of his own? It sounds a lot like old style politics rather than the politics of change.

Posted by: danielhancock | July 1, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Hispanic leaders such as Dolores Huerta co-founder of "United Farmworkers of America" sought help from Senator Obama to help out Ms Arellano. Yet he failed to even return her calls. And he has the audacity to accuse McCain of abandoning Hispanics?

"Illinois: Illegal Immigrant Leaving Sanctuary

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 16, 2007
An illegal immigrant who took refuge in a Chicago church a year ago to escape deportation said she planned to leave her sanctuary soon to lobby Congress for immigration changes, even if that means risking arrest. The immigrant, Elvira Arellano, 32, has said she feared being separated from her 8-year-old son, Saul, when she asked the Adalberto United Methodist Church for help, but she said she planned to leave on Sept. 12 to travel to Washington. Ms. Arellano came to the United States illegally from Mexico in 1997, was deported, but then returned. She moved to Illinois in 2000."


Posted by: lindagloria | June 30, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Rat-the, you can´t speak Spanish and your comments are irrelevant.

Comprehensive immigration reform is something both candidates support, along with the Bush White House. It´s also something that gets tossed aside first when election cycles come around and racists/xenophobes try to stir up peoples´ fears.

Immigration reform not a partisan issue and some knee-jerk reaction like building a US-Mexico version of the Berlin Wall will do nothing valuable.

Dejen de complejarse y fíjense en los hechos, boludos!!

Posted by: charly argentino | June 30, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I wish people would stop throwing the word "amnesty" around so ignorantly! Comprehensive immigration reform is necessary in this country because the current situation calls for it. Recongnize that illegal immigrants in this country come from all over the world, and that the figure includes millions of people who came into this country legally but have fallen or been forced out of status under the current immigration law. All the bills that have been presented and debated have very strict guidelines for these illegal immigrants to earn the right to even apply for citizenship - and it's been said time and time again that they will have to go to the back of the line and pay fines. That does NOT sound like a free pass to me.

More than that, is anyone concerned with the flaws in the existing system for legal immigrants? In fact, I agree with the sentiment earlier that the current system is set up for upper middle-class and wealthy people to travel and relocate to the United States. But that's not what this nation was built on! It was built on the toil and sweat of hard working men and women who had ideals of freedom and a desire to provide for their families needs. While I don't condone jumping fences, I understand that only horrible desperation would lead most people to do it. It's against the law, and they should pay, but it's so wrong to brand them all as dangerous criminals when so many of them just want to feed their families! And sure there are criminals among them. There are criminals in every society and among every demographic of people everywhere!!

Still, it would be interesting to see the choices some of our good, hardworking American men and women (who're crying Amnesty)would make if they were wearing someone else's muddy shoes on the other side of the boarder dealing with the circumstances and facing the choices that many illegal immigrants have.

It's sad that this country is so easily motivated by fear. Right from the way we bring up our children to the basis on which we cast our votes... And it's fear devoid of empathy and open-mindedness. What kind of a society is this? Have critics of proposed comprehensive immigration reform actually researched the issue and tried to understand it - beyond just feeding their own biases and opinions?

But to be fair, I wonder if anyone even has a plan - a logical and workable plan - as to how these immigrants would be found and deported. Where would the manpower and the money come from? What sort of time frame would you suggest? Unless of course all those crying "Amnesty!" are planning to seal up the borders nice and tight and then leave everything else as is... coz sure! We can see how that's a much better solution to the entire immigration problem...

Oh - I have an idea!! Maybe if we turn off all the lights, all the immigrants in the shadows will just glow in the dark!!

Posted by: Disturbed | June 30, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

What is truly sad is the rule of law is not being followed. Yes we are talking about people, families and millions of them. But the fact is, it is illegal to enter the US with out going threw immigration.

This is NOT a cultural or racical issue. It is true that in boarder states large numbers of people have broken the law entering the united states from certain counties. But that is the point... large numbers of people are entering the country BREAKING THE LAW.

Some people take issue with calling these people criminals, but if you break the law... you are a criminal. The law is there for a reason. If you don't like it (and you are a citizen) try to get it changed. LOL good luck, the rest of this counrty is not going to support open unrestricted immagration into the country.

For the illegals and their supporters who say I'm not a criminal, or I have been here 10 years and I don't break the law. Actually you do. ENTERING the country without going threw the proper channels is illegal and makes you a criminal. Aiding and abetting illegals is a crime. seeking employment under false pretense is a crime. Working under the table (not paying taxes) is a crime.

Illegal's have not just broken one law, but continue to breaking the law daily by evasion of cature, evasion of taxes, aiding others, to name a few.

notice I said nothing of violent crimes such as theft, assualt, ect.. It would be ignorant to assume that each illegal person has commited such crimes. Although it is important to note that a number of high profile cases exsist in Cali, Texas, and Arizona, that are high profile due to the Illegal person involved in a violent crime.

I do not support amnesty, nor a path to citizens for illegals already here. It is pandering to even speak it, and rewarding criminal activity. There is already a method to appy for citizenship to this country... In your home country, appy to enter ours.... it takes time not its LEGAL, and then you truly have the opertunity to experience the US.

Lastly to those who say, they do jobs americans won't do... BULL. Americans have Farmed, Worked in fast food, worked in construction, worked in lawn care, worked as plumbers, electricains, contractors, factory workers, janitors, and every other blue collor job that is being taken by illegals working for slave wages. American's wont work for 2 dollars an hour.... and illegals won't if made citizens either. CAN YOU SAY MINIMUM WAGE.

The proble sits with the employers who employe illegals. I call fro the mass reporting of illegal employment, get the companies fined, they will comply and offer the jobs to citizens at real wages or they will be shut down.

Posted by: common sense | June 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Do you really believe all that? Enjoy your next Big-foot expedition and let us know what is going on at area 51.

------------
FYI here Voters be aware that both 2008
Presidential Candidates Amnesty John McCain
and Messiah Barack Hussein Obama,along with
former Democrat Candidate Sell Out Shillary
Hillary Clinton ALL Support and Want to Pass Illegal Alien Amnesty and Open Borders
and Obama would grant these Illegal Alien
Criminals Full Free Immediate US Citizenship,as well. So please contact these candidates and tell them NO Amnesty
Or NO Vote for You! Let's send all three
of these panderers,McCain,Obama,and Clinton
a real forceful message of our total full
opposition to Illegal Alien Amnesty and
NO US Citizenship for these Criminals who
broke the law by sneaking into the USA.
And demand Secure our Borders and the Immediate Deportation of All Illegal Aliens
here and now!

Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | June 30, 2008 9:34 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

FYI here Voters be aware that both 2008
Presidential Candidates Amnesty John McCain
and Messiah Barack Hussein Obama,along with
former Democrat Candidate Sell Out Shillary
Hillary Clinton ALL Support and Want to Pass Illegal Alien Amnesty and Open Borders
and Obama would grant these Illegal Alien
Criminals Full Free Immediate US Citizenship,as well. So please contact these candidates and tell them NO Amnesty
Or NO Vote for You! Let's send all three
of these panderers,McCain,Obama,and Clinton
a real forceful message of our total full
opposition to Illegal Alien Amnesty and
NO US Citizenship for these Criminals who
broke the law by sneaking into the USA.
And demand Secure our Borders and the Immediate Deportation of All Illegal Aliens
here and now!

Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | June 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Re: David

Great posting! One thing that disturbs me most is the fact that he coldly calculated the number of his supporters in terms of "$25" each. They are those "people" who do not have "any gas money" to drive for job interviews, as he said.

Posted by: peace4world | June 30, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

McCain will toss conservatives under the bus the same way he did with the MIAs. He can't be trusted. He's shown he'll sell himself to the highest bidder.

Posted by: John | June 30, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

hmmm, Rat the does not like Chips and Salsa. Alrighty then, heard it all before, and nice to see the re-cycling. I hope I live long enough t become a minority, because I sure don't want to think about a future where Rat--The has so much as an inkling of policy perogative.

For your beddytime listening pleasre:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY&feature=related

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 30, 2008 3:28 AM | Report abuse

How much trust can we put in a man like Obama when he shows in recent weeks that his words and promises can be changed at a whim, because it does not suit him? Zero. There is nothing more valuable than keeping your word. Failing to keep his word, especially when so many people believe in him, demonstrates that he cannot commit to anything. It appears that we can trust Obama to go back on his word and promises. Now, that is change we can all believe in. "Yes, we can!"

Posted by: John | June 30, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

How much trust can we put in a man like Obama when he shows in recent weeks that his words and promises can be changed at a whim, because it does not suit him? Zero. There is nothing more valuable than keeping your word. It appears that we can trust Obama to go back on his word and promises. Now, that is change we can all believe in. "Yes, we can!"

Posted by: John | June 30, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Good point, Jay. In fact, they tried the same thing against Clinton. Remember those bumper stickers, "Don't blame me, I voted for Bush"? Those Repubs thought they would get to blame everything on the Democrats, but suddenly America got much much better. Then the Repubs changed their story. They tried to say that everything good during that era was due to the stuff Bush and Reagan did before it. Well, sounds a little inconsistent to me! Honestly, I don't believe anything these Repubs say any more. They will stoop to the lowest levels to win an election. This time the people are not falling for their smear tactics!

Posted by: Sam | June 29, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Amazing how the Republicans can't keep consistent what type of slander they want to use against Obama! Their plan: Just keep throwing mud, wait for soem of it to stick, and then keep on throwing the mud that works. Problem with this strategy is that nobody believes anything Republicans say any more. They have completely burnt their credibility. Everybody knows that Repubs got what they wanted for the last 8 years and now everything we are faced with today is 100% their fault. And now they try to tell us that things will get worse under Obama? Hahahahahahah. You're done, Repubs! You've already lost. AMERICA IS JUST NOT THAT STUPID!

Posted by: Jay | June 29, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break! Most Hispanics know better than to trust Obama on immigration or any other hot button issue. Barack will never sacrifice political capital - there are many people and principles under that bus. What may seem shrewd to Obama supporters, scares me. The man has no moral compass.

Posted by: David | June 29, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

During an Obama presidency, unemployment will soar, food prices will soar, gar prices will soar, people's debt will soar. Wealth redistribution will be put into law. The oil industry will be nationalized. America will become a socialist country. It is the change that Obama stands for. It is the change that Obama will bring. Chaos, and years of misery.

Posted by: Oracle | June 29, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

During an Obama presidency, unemployment will soar, food prices will soar, gar prices will soar, people's debt will soar. Wealth redistribution will be put into law. The oil industry will be nationalized. America will become a socialist country.

Posted by: Oracle | June 29, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and BTW Pubic, you confuse, as is the Norm by La-Raza types, Nationalism, and the desire to CONTROL our Population, with Xenophobia and Racism.

Read down some, and you will find I have zero problemo with the Mexicans who once lived in a Mexico that allowed Foreign Ventures, and welcomed outside influence(Like all the Invasorios live to take advantage of here), before they were Subverted by Socialist Revolutionaries who made Mexico Anathema to Outsiders, and Towards Outsiders!

We tend to BOTH view the latest wave of Revolutionary's offspring, as a Shared threat!

To Hell with Mexico!

I want to get involved Big Time with Friendly Hispanic States such as Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, and Especially Peru!

Nicaragua, Venezuela, Chile, Ecuador, Bolivia, and to a lessor extent Argentina, are Countries we have ignored for too long.

Iran and Ahmadinejad have been working overtime to take advantage of the fact!

No Pubic, YOU are not the only one who is trying to effectively work for Hispanics. Unlike YOU, I realize the answer lies in their own Countries, NOT ours. But, WE are a major source of help for them with Ours!

Go to mittromney.com, and realize the better future "Barry" O'Bomba-Nation does not have a clue about! ;~)

Comprende?

Posted by: RAT-The | June 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Pubic- LOL! Your PROUD of the Damage you did with the INSANE Amnesty in the Eighties?!

What color is the sky in your World?

It opened the Gates of HELL!

What were Workers some Americans used, INSTANTLY became our WORST NIGHTMARE!

When Legalized, they became the Competition. Notice that Illegals are no longer "Mexicans".

That is because of the INS' INSANE Policy of Familia Re-unificado. Every Mexican that CAN be accepted in this Country, has a way of getting here. It is the Diseased and criminal Elements that are sheltered in by their Traitorous Nationalist Allies. THEY are the ones who are now Employing all the Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans in an Exponentially growing Scale. It is a Community and Wage destroying CANCER on this Country!

I live in Texas, and have lived in So. California, as well as Hawaii. I have seen FIRST HAND the Barrios Grow, and the Gringos FORCED out!

Chump, they are NOT calling it ReConquista por Nada! They are NOW beginning the full scale assaults in the form of mass demonstrations designed to show their threat!

"We are wearing WHITE, in Peace"-Should have left them Red for the implied threat!

Proud! YOU should be ASHAMED-Unless, of course, you are just another Invasora Promoting card-carrying Reconquista desiring Hispanic that is here to subvert the Country you have fooled into allowing in! :-(

Posted by: RAT-The | June 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

We ended welfare as we know it. And blacks are better off now than they were before. And we should end illegal immigration as we know it. And latinos will be better off for it.

And before people start ragging, yes, I know that more whites than blacks were on the dole, but I also know that a higher percentage of blacks were on the dole than whites. Similarly, there are illegal canadiens and Euros and Asians in the country; they should all go home and re-apply too. Oh yeah, and just to show that I'm not hard-hearted I do know that whites benefit the most from affirmative action and that MIT would be 90% Asian if they pursued colorblind admissions policies. Just as I know that blacks scores *tend* to be lower when they gain admission. Just as legacies and well-connected people have an easier time gaining entry to school. So there, all the biases are on the table.

Having said that, we need to end illegal immigration as we know it. Having a shadow economy and insecure borders does absolutely nothing to help us win the war on terror and preserve peace and prosperity in this country. Beyond that, it is just wrong. It violates the American ideals of equality and justice. People can't just jump ahead of their countrymen in immigration procedures by jumping over a fence. Despite what some in here have said, that is not taking the high road. Families and communities built on that shifty morality are destined to crumble.

Clinton reformed welfare. Obama will reform immigration.

Posted by: JR, Boston | June 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

The rat dreams and fantasizes a lot, reading "Mein Kampf" just does not cut it. There are 44 million Hispanics, 40 million African Americans, 10 million Asian Americans, 2 millio Jewish Americans among other racial minorities who are not going anywhere anytime soon, that is the reality rat, your ethnic cleansing fantasies are just that, fantasies.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

BTW Rat, pubic hair on my coke can was basically the charge made by (can't remember her name) against Clarence Thomas during his Supreme Court nomination hearings. It has always captured my imagination... that a guy could be accused of sexism because some gal found a supposed hair on her coke can. Like I wanted to go with Tippecanoe and Tyler too, but nobody alive knows what that means. Just thought you had a little more political acumen Rat... and have enjoyed most of your peevish remarks... but the hard racist remarks makes you a true Rat.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 29, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

wrong person to argue with Rat, I fortunately or unfortunately am proud of my executive branch work in the Reagan Era Amnesty Program. The economic shot in the arm was what paved the way for the first stock market climb after the 88' crash. And I actually consider it one of my more positive experiences in D.C. after getting black listed by AIPAC after my successful lobby coup for AWACS in Saudi Arabia.

Anyway, I do understand your desire to frog march all brown people with an accent to the Southern Border, but again it is YOU that need to understand that desire.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Uhhh, Obscene Coke Can, unlike "Barry" O'Flip-Floppa's affinity for "Monkey" Gods, the Hindu Faith also worships Rats!

They serve a very valuable purpose.

Shame I am just a "Surf" Rat, and not someone Hindu's worship Huh?!

BTW, WHAT do you think those nice little Invasarios would do if you and a whole bunch(Thousands) of Americans went down to Mexico City, Illegally, and began Marching down there Streets waving American Flags and making demands?

Pulling a La-Raza type Rhetoric screaming "All for Yankee's, Nothing for the Mexicans!"?

Hint-There would be a Huge Bloody mess and thousands of Gringos to bury!

The very Fact it did not happen to them, when they pulled it here, is PROOF many of us do RESPECT them. As Humans and God's Children.

But, THEY, have WORN OUT THEIR WELCOME WITH A STUNT THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE PULLED, and should DAMN WELL Think twice about continuing!

IF, they want to CHALLENGE our Sovereignty, and our RIGHT to this Land, AS WE WANT IT;

They will wind up Extending our Manifest Destiny Tendencies AGAIN! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | June 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

well at least Rat The, knows he is a rat... and who really listens to vermin. Exactly, other vermin. America is a great country because of immigration, legal, illegal as we need your help to exterminate the rats.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

To the MILLIONS of complaining, and demanding invaders who feel we are just not grateful that you have come un-Invited to this Country to leach our services, and steal our opportunities by fighting us with your lower expectations(For NOW), I would like to say:

Adios, Hasta la Vista, Sayanora, Laters, Good-Bye, Scram, Get out, Beat It, Arrividelchi, Adiu, Don't let the Door hit you on your "Democrat Mascot", Good Riddance, Don't Write, You don't have to go home-But, you can't stay here, Aloha, Bonjour, Say Hi to your Parents, Don't forget your Kids, and;

HAVE A NICE TRIP! :-)

Posted by: RAT-The | June 29, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

John McCain - unwavering and steadfast on the issues!

http://www.womenforjohnmccain.com/

Posted by: Christina West | June 29, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

IF, McCain had a Brain(Or at least a Lucid moment), he would not WALK away from the immigration issue;

He'd RUN as fast as his ancient little butt could!

Straight to Mitt Romney and begin Parroting Romney's Pitch "Enforce our Existing Laws-No new Bills are needed!"


Imagine, getting a Clue, a Viable Veep, and a "Brain", all at the same convenient stop!

Then, having Conservative Support, and Money thrown in as well!


But, Alas, as I said;


McCain has no Brain! :-/


Someone get that Dirty Old Man out of the Convention! ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | June 29, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain "said the federal government eventually should create a method for immigrants living in the U.S. illegally to become citizens"

There is a method. People should *go home to their country of citizenship* and apply to become guest workers. The then can apply, after some years, for citizenship.

The illegals should be at the back of the guest worker application line, behind the law abiding people who not only want to be here but have the decency to respect the law. Otherwise the American ideals of equality and justice will have been violated.

And the guest worker program should contain a special payroll deduction tax, like social security, to pay for border security and the enforcement programs. And enforcement of the laws of this country should become stricter over time.

We shouldn't deport 12-20 million people. But we should create the environment where they want to leave and get right by the law. And their countrymen who have had the grace and dignity to respect our laws should be first in line.

Welfare reform changed behavior by putting a five year window and a strict environment in place. Many people said it couldn't work. It did. Immigration reform needs to happen. And it needs to happen now.

No to amnesty. No to special treatment for criminals. They shouldn't be punished, but there is no way that they should be rewarded either; they go to the back of the line.

Posted by: JR, Boston | June 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Senator Kerry will be out of a job soon. He will be replaced by another Democratic Senator.

Posted by: New News | June 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

GloriaSM writes: "I am glad that the two leaders of our two major parties in this country understand and hold dear in their hearts that these people are God's children too."

They'd still be God's children in their home countries, and that's the better public policy. And, in fact, it's better for everyone concerned:

http://immref.com/spin/compassion/

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | June 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Social Security Change For 2008 >

> The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to

> Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted

> to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home

> state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.

> Alaska: Stevens (R) > Arizona : McCain (R) >

> Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D) >

> California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)

> Colorado : Salazar (D) >

> Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)

> Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)

> Florida : Martinez (R)

> Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)

> Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D) >

> Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R) > Iowa : Harkin (D)

> Kansas : Brownback (R) > Louisiana : Landrieu (D) >

> Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D) >

> Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)

> Montana : Baucus (D) > Nebraska : Hagel (R)

> Nevada : Reid (D) >

> New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)

> New Mexico : Bingaman (D)

> New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)

> North Dakota : Dorgan (D) >

> Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)

> Oregon : Wyden (D)

> Pennsylvania : Specter (R)

> Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)

> South Carolina : Graham (R)

> South Dakota : Johnson (D)

> Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D) >

> Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D) >

> West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting

> Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D) >

> SEND THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED

> STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR

> SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHO DIDN'T PAY IN A DIME. >

> LET US SHOW OUR LEADERS IN WASHINGTON 'PEOPLE POWER' AND THE POWER

> OF THE INTERNET. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT OR

> INDEPENDENT! KEEP IT GOING!!!!


http://www.votesmart.org

vote smart, check records. Isn't america Worth it?

Posted by: maggieb | June 29, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"A FEW ??

Before long, one of those FEW will rape your daughter, mug your son, ram your car, intimidate any REAL American trying to get a job in the rapidly-growing arenas where they hold sway.

Your empty-headed sweetness is appalling.

Posted by: | June 29, 2008 10:59 AM "

What truly frightens and APPALLS me, is the fact that people like you have the audacity to make statements as though you represent the whole. Quite frankly it's embarrassing to share the title of American with people like you. If you're going to post offensive things, at least have the testicular fortitude to post a handle as well. If you're the definition of a "Real American" (whatever that means), forget immigration, this country is in far more trouble than any of us could've ever imagined!

Posted by: L.H. | June 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, of course there are a few rotten apples among them ..."

A FEW ??

Before long, one of those FEW will rape your daughter, mug your son, ram your car, intimidate any REAL American trying to get a job in the rapidly-growing arenas where they hold sway.

Your empty-headed sweetness is appalling.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

"Do you think illegals can work in some shadow economy, not pay taxes, and just get free health care and services. Do you think Americans will put up with that?"

Well, so far ... yeah.

But I agree with the rest of your post. Thank god towns and states are starting to do was our feckless and criminal pols in DC are too cowardly to.

No other country on the planet puts up with this crappola, yet a-holes like the Cardinal of LA want open borders for US. And THAT bastid should be in prison for repeatedly aiding and abetting serial pedophiles.

We ARE going to hell in a hand basket.

Obama and McCain should be called onto the carpet at EVERY campaign stop.

Posted by: Chuckamok | June 29, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Who will cut your lettuce, pick your asparagus, take your best blue collar jobs, have their babies for free at the tax payers expense, fill our jails with gang bangers,take our civil service jobs and speak our language when we call for informtion? Who will stand in line to file papers for legal immigration when they can just jump across, rent houses and put 30 people in them and collect their rent, buy houses with no down payment,use their ethnicity as clubs to get the best jobs first? Who will cut your grass at $21.00 an hour or clean your house at 17.00 an hour and who will carry no auto insurance except to register with the DMV, then drop the insurance? Who will fill our Emergency Rooms so that the sickest person cannot get taken care of? Who laughed when Reagan introcuded amnesty costing billions of dollars and increasing the population of free loaders to a degree that is unimaginable, the fraud that is rampant? And who is waiting and laughing again because they are positive another amnesty will be granted along with citizenshp while legal immigrants are waiting for years to fill out the papers to allow them to enter legally?

Posted by: roamergone | June 29, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

So face reality here Obamafools as both
Senor El Presidente for Life Panderer
Extraordinary Barack Hussein Obama and
Senor Amnesty Juan (John)McCain want to
grant 30 Million not 12 Million Illegal
Alien Criminals Full Amnesty and Immediate
Free Citizenship just to get a few LaRaz,
Mexican and Latino Votes! We Need to Force
the Democrats and Republicans To Dump
Both Obama and McCain here and now!
No Illegal Alien Amnesty! No Free US
Citizenship For Illegal Alien Criminals!
Secure Our Borders & Deport All Illegal
Aliens or be defeated on Election Day!
NOBAMA and NO More Lies & BS from you
Amnesty John McCain and Barack Hussein Obama!

Posted by: Sherry Kay 2004 | June 29, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Everybody, SHUT UP right NOW!!!

Posted by: Don Quijote | June 29, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Mira amigo, you may think that jumping a fence constitutes some higher path but brother you are mistaken.

Most Americans have no problem with immigrants, of any race, who are here legally. But people who are here illegally are going to have to go home and wait in line, behind the law-abiding citizens who have the grace and decency to respect America and her laws. Those are the people we want here. Not ignorant, arrogant jerks who think they should be able to get away with anything.

Understand this about America. The politicians will not get elected if they do not follow the will of the people. And too many illegal immigrants have been gang-banging, and too many illegals have failed to make *any attempt* to learn the English language.

Do you think illegals can work in some shadow economy, not pay taxes, and just get free health care and services. Do you think Americans will put up with that?

Brother, you haven't thought it through. People are already going back home because they can't get driver's licenses, can't get work, and are starting to feel the heat. Yeah, we are not going to deport 12-20 million people. That would be a logistical nightmare. But we are not going to grant citizenship to the people who deserve it the least!


Posted by: JR, Boston | June 29, 2008 5:06 AM | Report abuse

I am glad that the two leaders of our two major parties in this country understand and hold dear in their hearts that these people are God's children too. Yes, of course there are a few rotten apples among them, those must be identified and removed away, but the rest are working families who want to have a chance to improve their lives, those of their families and contribute to the country if they are allowed. Yes, there is still that tall lady to who these words were dedicated:

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

May God bless America!

Posted by: GloriaSM | June 29, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse

There was a time Romans persecuted christians for taking higher path. Today's illegals are same. They do the most scariest, dirtiest and low paying job and work so hard only to be made scapegoat for whether it be the rise in crime, or job loss due to globalizations, or to rally pinheads or raise a populist sentiment. You people are scared from them because you know from your heart that they are right and they have taken a higher path then your constant and rude parroting of laws, laws, laws. John and Barack know the right thing that's why they are leaders and you are people. Just ordinary people. You may think you rule but it is the leader who rules and rightfully.

Posted by: Juan | June 29, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

This whole line of campaigning lacks a grasp of reality.

Bush was able to get 40% of the latin vote in 2k4 because he and his brother (who married a latina) controlled Texas and Florida. The Bush people don't like McCain, as is evidenced by the 2000 campaign when McCain put the coke thing around, and they aren't about to go to the mat for him in this election.

Obama is going to win 65+% of the latin vote. And McCain is going to depress his conservative base and their turnout by making the immigration/amnesty play.

McCain's mother must have loved him a lot. I guess he feels that he can get in front of any crowd, however small, and work his 'magic'.

That McCain is playing this losing hand is indicative of the fact that he needs to get a grip. Otherwise Obama is going to smoke him. More fuzzy thinking like this and Texas is in play.

I can see the bumper stickers already: "No to amnesty. No to McCain"

And he can try to get all sanctimonious, but Latinos know that he's just as fake as any politician has ever been. Why did he speak out *now* about immigration. Why not 10 or 20 years ago. Could it be that he's an opportunist and there is an election? And how much straight talk is behind his proposed Cuba policy, which is pure pandering to the crazy Cubans in Miami to help him win Florida. The idea that we can trade with China and Russia but not Cuba; the idea that McCain latin foreign policy should be subservient to winning Florida and trying to get him elected (which isn't going to happen, because his campaign lacks cohesion and support) should make everyone understand that the guy is not a straight talker, he's a straight-up politician. And not a very good one.

Posted by: JR, Boston | June 29, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

Re: Senator McCain

Senator Obama walked away from his church for which he was a member for 20 years.

When you debate, all issues will be resolved, and Truth never lies.

So don't worry. Voters are not that stupid.

Independent, MA.

Posted by: peace4world | June 29, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Re: McCain Campaign

I strongly advise you not to respond to Senator Obama's statements vis-a-vis.

Your Campaign really need to analyze what happened to the nomination battle between Obama and Hillary first. Until you have a full, clear understanding of the history, do not make any statements.

We all know who you are and no affect on the Election. If you keep cool, everything is fine. Let him play his game with his own Logic first.

An Independent, MA.

Posted by: peace4world | June 29, 2008 2:36 AM | Report abuse

This naturalized Hispanic immigrant is never again voting Republican, I am one of the 40% of Hispanic Americans that voted for George Bush, never again, I just had to listen to Tom Tancredo, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, Lou Dobbs, Anne Coulter and all the rest of bigoted Republicans once and that did it for me, I am never again in my life voting Republican, neither will my wife and neither will my kids. End of the story, I do no have to like much less vote for people who hate me, why the hell should I ??

Posted by: jacaver | June 29, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Obama ha pasado el último año insultando, agrediendo y humillando a los latinos. Lo hizo descaradamente en los caucus de Nevada, cuando sobornó a la presidenta del sindicato de trabajadores de hoteles y restaurantes, quien amenazó a los miembros de dichos sindicatos con represalias si no votaban por Obama. Los latinos de Nevada sintieron la humillación y votaron abrumadoramente por Hillary. Igual sucedió en California, Nuevo México, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Nueva York, Nueva Jersey.

Obama consiguió que el Comité Nacional del Partido Demócrata impida que se respete la decisión de los votantes demócratas de Florida, donde hay un gran número de hispanos.

Obama es un gangster, rodeado de mafiosos como Tony Rezko, y de extremistas como Jeremiah Wright. Demagogos corruptos como Obama son los que han hundido a América Latina.

Obama se opuso al TLC con Colombia. Eso lo hacía mientras sus asesores mantenían reuniones secretas con las FARC, a las cuales ofreció retirarlas de la lista de organizaciones terroristas.

LOS LATINOS NO VOTAREMOS JAMAS POR UN GANGSTER COMO OBAMA.


Posted by: desdeelsurconamor | June 28, 2008 11:35 PM
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Nonsense!

Obama has sought support from Hispanic voters with respect and genuine concern for their rights and culture. His efforts in Nevada and throughout the country were not interpreted by Latinos as you claim.

His genuine concern for all people and especially those who do not have a strong voice in Washington has been recognized by Latino populations in all the states you list.

Further, the voters of Florida will have their say on November 4th. You whine about Florida - why? Because Hillary did not get what she wanted? All the Democrats got exactly what they voted for in Florida - and just like the Republicans - suffered the loss of half their delegation strength because Florida chose to advance its primary dates. That had nothing to do with Obama.

Your fraudulent claims about Tony Rezko have been dismissed by the courts. And, if you cannot deal with religion - that is your problem, not that of the Latino community.

I do not know how Latinos will vote in November - but today over 66% say that they will support Obama - our next President.

Obama is an honorable and genuine person and most Latino voters will vote accordingly dispite your attempts at characterization.

Posted by: Tu habla mucho pero no dice nada | June 29, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

*** McCain, who spoke prior to Obama's appearance...... [said] The legislation "wasn't very popular . . . in my party," he acknowledged yesterday. ***

Well, that says it all, don't it?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Hispanic Americans need to line up and be counted this time. The repugs are building a fortress with a moat around it and they want to frog march to the border anyone with even an accent. The racism is overt and vicious. Now the Alian Gonzalez Zombies in Florida are a whole 'nother bowl of beans... negros and bitter, they have been stirred into a froth for so long they are unable to vote outside their box. But anyway... a Democratic President with a Democratic Senate with a majority, a house with a 40 to 50 seat majority and the solution to the immigration plan will be fair and equitable, honest and sincere. We need you.

-- Obama '08 --

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | June 29, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

A McCain campaign spokesman shot back at Obama's characterization of the issue. "It's quite audacious for Barack Obama to question John McCain's commitment to immigration reform when it was Obama himself who worked to kill the Senate's bipartisan immigration reform compromise last year," the spokesman, Brian Rogers, said in a statement. It also said Obama had voted for five amendments "designed by special interests to kill the immigration reform deal."

Posted by: Never had a Obotomy (Labotomy is you don't know what that is, please look it up) | June 29, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Both Senators Barack Obama and Grandpa Munster John McCain have tapped danced on the illegal immigration issue. Both candidates will give citizenship and amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens. John McCain stated on yesterday at a meeting for Latino officials, "There are 12 million people here and they are here illegally but they are God's children, they are God's children," McCain said, pounding the podium for emphasis as he repeated the words.
Black and white citizens of the United States of America, our country is finished, because illegal and legal Hispanics from 24 Spanish speaking countries are having babies like jack rabbits and the Hispanic population is growing day and night in the U.S.

Black U.S. citizens are finished in this country and Salvadorans/Mexicans are not your brown brothers and sisters. Both groups dislike black U.S. citizens. Salvadorans/Mexicans are pushing their agenda in the U.S. and it doesn't include white or black citizens.

Posted by: Illegal Alien | June 29, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

A McCain campaign spokesman shot back at Obama's characterization of the issue. "It's quite audacious for Barack Obama to question John McCain's commitment to immigration reform when it was Obama himself who worked to kill the Senate's bipartisan immigration reform compromise last year," the spokesman, Brian Rogers, said in a statement. It also said Obama had voted for five amendments "designed by special interests to kill the immigration reform deal."

Posted by: Never had a Obotomy! | June 29, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

If Obama had any knowledge about immigration he would know the majority of the citizens do not want to give path to citizenship to illegals...and that includes those of us who came here legally.

This is a country of laws and those who do not respect them when the come in won't do it after they become legal... Do we want to import more crime and accept as good undocumented people over the thousands who apply to come legally and obey the law? Not me
Incidently Senator, those cannot vote for you or anybody.

Posted by: legalinmigrant | June 28, 2008 10:27 PM

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If this was a country of laws Bush and Cheney would be in prison.

Posted by: Scott | June 29, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

European immigrants came to America without needing do much but touch their feet on US land.
Millions and millions of immigrants were granted asylum without a problem.
Some just got lost in the landscape and all were accepted. Some took two or three generation to assimilate, just like the Mexicans do.
The only difference is: REPUBLICANS HATE MEXICANS as immigrants.
The laws to come into the country are impossible, for poor people to come in.
The laws are made for the middle classes, or people who have the money to pay lawyers, and wait 5 - 15 years to come in.
Poverty drives the "illegals" into the US as the European poverty drove them here.
The only difference between these two groups is RACE.
TRUTH IS TRUTH AND AMERICANS HAVE NEVER LIKED PEOPLE WHO HAVE NATIVE AMERICAN BLOOD, THUS MEXICA BLOOD.

Posted by: Barney | June 29, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

mittromney.com


So sayeth-Me!

Posted by: ALMIGHTY -The ;-) | June 29, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Mccain did denounce his own legislation and said he wouldn't vote for it during the Republican Primaries. This is not the only issue Mccain has flip flop on. CAN WE TRUST MCCAIN? Judge for yourself:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y395Tftgz0E

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk

Posted by: Brad | June 29, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

desdeelsurconamor-Senator O'Bomba es no Mexicano Amigo! No Amigo para Chicanos y no Amigo por Hispanola!

Yeah, he did get his hat handed to him in the Primaries! Seems the Mulatto just did not win the Hispanics like he thought he could!

But, there is something that needs to be mentioned again as the "Hispanic" ticket is being grouped together like all Hispanics are some big happy Familia.

They are NOT.

Many Hispanics immigrated into the US from Mexico, AFTER the Revolution! The Have-Nots Revolted and overthrew the Cosmopolitan and Educated Leaders of Mexico, and either Killed them, or forced them out!

It was Socialistic Class Warfare. O'Bomba-Nation appeals to the descendants of the Revolutionaries who have invaded the Estados Unidos because they FAILED to enact the promised Dream in the Country of Mexico they corrupted and destroyed. The Revolutionaries are out to try to "Take" again. It, is all they are able to do! They do it with NUMBERS!

The Assimilated Hispanics realize that Barack is simply playing up to the Socialists they have been burned by before!

What is sad, is stupid Gringos like McAmnesty do not understand the HUGE difference between the Revolutionary's Offspring, and the Offspring of the Mexicans who were overthrown, and forced to flee for their lives to our Country!

The Revolutionary's Offspring, is, and always will be, a Common Enemy of the US and the Mexicans who fled and became Americans!

The Traitors McAmnesty, and O'Bomba-Nation, are out to help our Enemies!

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 29, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure deep down in his heart McClonebush cares about Latinos.

I mean, who would do his wife's nails, or his lawn, wash his car, etc.????

Posted by: jeffp | June 29, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

"Comprehensive immigration reform" is amnesty. We've been down this road before. Obama is an open border pandering jerk on this, and he knows it. No wonder he doesn't want any debates on issues.

Posted by: muskrat | June 28, 2008 9:11 PM

"Comprehensive immigration reform" is McCain's thing. Sheesh.

Posted by: aleks | June 29, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Obama was missing in action during the fight over comprehensive immigration reform. He showed up for the photo op when a compromise was reached, but never took part in any of the deliberations on the compromise, then voted for a handful of killer amendments that ultimately sunk the legislation. He's a phony. McCain, on the other hand, agree or disagree with him, took a leadership role. Now all the yahoos out there can scream amnesty all they want, the fact is we need workers at both the high and low ends of the skills spectrum. We spend too much money educating Americans to want them picking tomatoes or processing poultry. We can either decide to ship those jobs south of the border or admit hard-working people who want those jobs. In fact, with the death of immigration reform, American agricultural businesses are now leasing land in Mexico to grow lettuce and tomatoes they once grew in places like California. If you can't bring Mohammed to the mountain, take the mountain to Mohammed. And Americans lose far more when the jobs go south than when the workers come north.

Posted by: redwhiteandblue | June 28, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama ha pasado el último año insultando, agrediendo y humillando a los latinos. Lo hizo descaradamente en los caucus de Nevada, cuando sobornó a la presidenta del sindicato de trabajadores de hoteles y restaurantes, quien amenazó a los miembros de dichos sindicatos con represalias si no votaban por Obama. Los latinos de Nevada sintieron la humillación y votaron abrumadoramente por Hillary. Igual sucedió en California, Nuevo México, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Nueva York, Nueva Jersey.

Obama consiguió que el Comité Nacional del Partido Demócrata impida que se respete la decisión de los votantes demócratas de Florida, donde hay un gran número de hispanos.

Obama es un gangster, rodeado de mafiosos como Tony Rezko, y de extremistas como Jeremiah Wright. Demagogos corruptos como Obama son los que han hundido a América Latina.

Obama se opuso al TLC con Colombia. Eso lo hacía mientras sus asesores mantenían reuniones secretas con las FARC, a las cuales ofreció retirarlas de la lista de organizaciones terroristas.

LOS LATINOS NO VOTAREMOS JAMAS POR UN GANGSTER COMO OBAMA.

Posted by: desdeelsurconamor | June 28, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

McCain could take a serious lead if he chose to take a stand on arrest the employers, close the border. The polls show 70+ percent of voters want that and it's been a STEADY 70+ percent.

Posted by: John C. Page III | June 28, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama is right on in his charge McCain flip flops on the immigration issue depending upon which group to whom he is speaking. Conservatives beware....when McCain speaks of "immigration reform", such is code for amnesty for those who broke the laws to enter the US. Period. Further, after amnesty, McCain will move the law breakers to the head of the line and reward their lawlessness with a fast track path to citizenship. Conservatives are not stupid. McCain must have their vote to win. He will not get enough of them....and he will go down in flaming defeat in November.

Posted by: BorderResident | June 28, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Latinos are the second largest minority group? I think you mean simply largest, no?

Posted by: kvandy | June 28, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post sure is censoring a LOT of anti illegal immigrant posts.

Mention that Mexican Military personell were captured in Arizona after doing an assassination and setting up an ambush for the Phoenix police poof gone.


Mention that Obama and McCain couldn't care about what's good for America they have to worry about whats good for those who break our laws and are here illegally, I guess Mexico's economy and jobs for Mexican citizens here illegally is more important then us poor taxpaying citizens

Posted by: TheodoreRoosevelt | June 28, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

If Obama had any knowledge about immigration he would know the majority of the citizens do not want to give path to citizenship to illegals...and that includes those of us who came here legally.
This is a country of laws and those who do not respect them when the come in won't do it after they become legal... Do we want to import more crime and accept as good undocumented people over the thousands who apply to come legally and obey the law? Not me
Incidently Senator, those cannot vote for you or anybody.

Posted by: legalinmigrant | June 28, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: wh90iy44r3 | June 28, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Republicans offer very little for Latinos or other people here in the area of health care. They frankly do not care about expanding health care coverage to the forty-seven million plus persons who do not have any health care plans.

McCain wants to continue the war and occupation in Iraq indefinitely, I do not understand how his policies there would help Latinos or any other people living in this country. In fact, continuing the war will hinder Latinos and other people by squandering tens of billions each year, which could otherwise be spent on improving health care, education and public safety, benefitting all persons in the United States.

Republicans almost always seek to underfund the public schools, often claiming there is not enough money, while insisting upon spending tens of billions unnecessarily in Iraq. I do not think McCain and the Republicans are going to fool as many people as usual in this election.

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Posted by: wh90iy44r3 | June 28, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

This naturalized Hispanic immigrant is never again voting Republican, I am one of the 40% of Hispanic Americans that voted for George Bush, never again, I just had to listen to Tom Tancredo, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, Lou Dobbs, Anne Coulter and all the rest of bigoted Republicans once and that did it for me, I am never again in my life voting Republican, neither will my wife and neither will my kids. End of the story, I do no have to like much less vote for people who hate me, why the hell should I ??

Posted by: jacaver | June 28, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

htruman- Jealousy is SUCH an Ugly Emotion!

But, make amends with a little Honesty.

Who are you more envious of?

Me, Raton Grande, or Sean Hannity-Rat Little?

BTW, if either of these Congressional Con Clowns, gets Elected, I won't have to move to another Country.

Another Country will move on me!

Comprende? ;~)

Posted by: RAT-The | June 28, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

That's the problem at one point in time we have to trust somebody. I prefer to take a chance with Senator Obama Barrack for much reason relevant to our economy beginning its recovering stage through unity. I had my full of Bush and McCain is a duplicate of Bush. I don't understand either you like what has taken place in the past or you want a change you can't have it both ways. McCain served in the service and that was a good deed, but that does not make him qualified to be the commander in chief. Let the truth be told he is too old I have observed him closely he can't stand the sun he has sores on the top of his head bandages the man is not healthy enough to run for President. I am not racist but he is not able to be the President of the United States. And I stand by that.

Posted by: Teresa Moore | June 28, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

another article today by the Washington Post concerning amnesty and our candidates views.

this one they had hidden deep

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/28/AR2008062800994.html

Posted by: ShadowLand | June 28, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Several conservative research groups and blogs are reporting the stunning news that all previous estimates of the number of illegal aliens in our country are way short of the true total - which may be as high as 90 million from Central America alone.

Add to that total the number of latinos from South America and the Carribean and it is possible that the grand total exceeds 95 million right now in 2008.

The rate of illegal entries has slowed during the last 36 months but still far exceeds the rate at which they are rounded up and deported. Further, the latino population is expanding due to an exceptionally high fertility rate -- tens of thousands of latino babies are born in this country every month.

Estimates conclude that if unchecked by our law enforcement agencies - the hispanic population of the United States of America will exceed 200 million by the year 2020 and an unbeliveable 250 million by 2035.

Conservative think tanks are encouraging all Anglos to start immediately having as many babies as possible while they work to craft and introduce landmark legislation to annex Canada, Sweden and Denmark.

Posted by: Tu habla mucho pero no dice nada | June 28, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

"Comprehensive immigration reform" is amnesty. We've been down this road before. Obama is an open border pandering jerk on this, and he knows it. No wonder he doesn't want any debates on issues.

Posted by: muskrat | June 28, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse


Let's see. McCain reached across the aisle, worked with Ted Kennedy, and put together a bipartisan bill to massively overhaul immigration.

And Obama? He gave a speech.

Posted by: WylieD | June 28, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Not a Pawn to Retarda.........
Yes. I know McCain is from my state of Arizona. I also know that Sens. McCain and Kyle have constantly undermined our Governor's attempts to make the Federal government live up to its responsibilities regarding immigration - funding, enforcement, employer crackdowns, etc. (The Chambers of Commerce squeal like pigs when businesses who hire undocumented workers are held accountable.)
I wish somebody would ask McCain about our nutcase, egomaniacal Sheriff Joe's latest grandstanding on immigration.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Anyone other then me notice that the Washington Post has neglected to write about the assassination and use of Mexican Military, or former Military personnel who had set up an ambush for the responding police officers?

some of those responding police officers were vets of Iraq and smelled something funny and reversed the rolls and captured three Mexican nationals believed to be Mexican Military.

story can be found on KOS a liberal site
and can also be found at fox a Republican site, both sites actually agreeing for once on something.

Enforcement first period and close the border tight to illegals and terrorists, and most especially to the gangs and thugs that bring their drug wars INTO our country.

Murders of U.S. Citizens by these gangs and drug lords exceeds many times over the deaths we've had in Iraq, Afghanistan and the twin towers combined in the same time period.

Bush invaded the wrong country and is trying to bring democracy to the wrong country and for SURE is spending money to rebuild and educate the wrong country.

Hey Bush Mexico has oil too.

Posted by: John C. Page III | June 28, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I just finished watching McCain's and Obama's entire appearances at NALEA - speeches and Q & A's.
Obama was enthusiastic, engaged, answered all questions thoughtfully and in depth. Obama has the advantage of having worked as a community organizer, side by side with the very populations who are hit hardest in times like these.
McCain's lacks empathy with the problems of us ordinary middle class people - black, white, hispanic, whatever. McCain does not know how ordinary people live from day to day. For example: What do mortgage problems mean to a guy who owns 8 lavish homes?

See what you think. Watch them both on www.c-span.org

Posted by: Joyce | June 28, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised Barack Hussein Obama hasn't tried to say he's one of them. That he swam across the great river to come to the land of the free. LMMFAO!

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | June 28, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse


Um what does Obama know about anything?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iraq;_ylt=AmpbwnPBVLPvAQeIMqNMtTsb.3QA

Obama is going to the Middle East in July? For his 2nd time ever? Just mere months before he's the November 4th Election Date for the President of the U.S.A.?!?!?

WOW!

Anyways

What does the Freshman Senator know about Imigration, that guy NEVER knows what he's talking about, Period. McCain is Senator of a Border State!


He's finally going.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080628/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobamadiplomacy_080628202701;_ylt=AnIeVvi1H340toF_zjDASP9h24cA

Read the part about HAMAS stating that Obama is further a TERRORIST MOVEMENT in the U.S.A.

Does anyone remember this...

http://www.historyguy.com/GulfWar.html

Yeah the U.S. was in a War with IRAQ just 10 years before the Iraq War...

It's not like the U.S. invaded a completely neutral country...

WAKE UP!

Posted by: Not a Pawn to Retarda | June 28, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

For one thing, forget the number 12 million; there isn't anyone, and I do mean anyone, who even has the foggiest idea as to how many illegal immigrants are in our country. Illegal immigrants have been swarming into our country for the last 22 years.

The actual number is quite likely to exceed 20 million, and it could even approach 40 million.

DHS knows of over 8.4 million people with "errors" in their SS numbers. E-Verify needs to be mandated by ALL states, to be used by ALL employers, for ALL employees.

Illegal immigrants are costing American taxpayers 100's, yes, 100's, of billions of dollars a year.

In California, education alone, of illegal immigrants students, is costing taxpayers over 15 billion dollars a year. Is there any wonder why California has a growing 17 billion dollar state budget deficit.

Illegals leave!! You are not wanted in our United States.

There are over 8.5 million unemployed Americans, and that number is growing.

Hasta la vista illegales!!

Posted by: Buzzm1 | June 28, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

check out the political debate going on here...


http://thevote.abc13.com

Posted by: TOMABRAHAMS | June 28, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama the gamer and scammer! I'm not even gonna try to rebuke your every claim because alas it would be too easy. Here's a novel solution for you. From now on why don't you get your facts from reading and empirical evidence. Maybe throw a little deductive reasoning into the mix to ground your conclusions when (big gasp!) things don't pan out to be black and white. Come on, try it for a week and tell me you don't receive a big boost of respect.

Posted by: Sean Hannity Has No Chin | June 28, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain is no different from most of the politicians catering to the Latino Caucus, but as Rep. Cannon of Utah found out the hard way? Not every American citizens agree with that situation? Senator Obama already promised he would give the 30 + million of illegal aliens, squatting in this nation... AMNESTY? His counterpart McCain will do likewise, to get the vote in November. Americans must pass the SAVE ACT before this happens.

Afterwards will be too late for overburdened taxpayers, who will have to support foreign nationals already not feeding from state and federal welfare programs. Plus millions more waiting behind our worthless border, will think it's 'open day' for the third world countries and they will want to join the line for free benefits.They might like to start in California first, cause they give out government handouts like hard candy, that's why their on the edge of bankruptcy.

If it's something to do with enforcing our immigration laws, the special interest lobby will crawl out of the sewers to stop its enactment. Just like the SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) a Federal bill, the laggard Democrats don't want voted into law. Rep.Cannon of Utah, lost his bid as an incumbent, mainly because he pandered to the pro-open-borders special interest lobby. Corruption has manifested itself, as house Speaker Nancy Pelosi has used intimidation to stop her cohorts from endorsing this legislation.

Ice has a free Tipline: 1-866-DHS-2ICE for intelligence to locate illegal aliens, or predatory businesses that employ them.

Under this strictly enforcement law predatory employers would be arrested, fined and possibly imprisoned and millions of illegal aliens would leave of their own accord. It would give (ICE) more funding and build the US border patrol up to 20.000 more agents in strength, build the fence as originally intended. This national law would also begin to remove criminal aliens from our society. It would give extra teeth to all immigration laws now on the books.

Demand the anti--illegal immigration SAVE ACT! (2022243121 ) Unsuppressed details at www.numbersusa.com.

Posted by: Brittanicus | June 28, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm, no surprise there. We need to hear more and more and see the TRUTH about this fictional character that some press members have created to decieve us from who this ANGRY, SUFFERER OF UNTREATED PTSD, really is. Go Obama, fire back at this picture of false perfection Senator Bush McSame wants us to believe he is. McCain will backpeddle and change course so many times even when being questioned by the press about things he's said, claimed to be, endorsed, supported, it's like watching a REAL LIVING HUMAN CHAMELEON. Sites to brush up on the real McCain are , bravenewfilms.org, www.youtube.com, the real McCain -LA TIMES www.latimes.com. These are just a few.

To my latino brothers and sister....Do the due-diligence, One great place to look is green960.com. I want to challenge you look at both Senator McCains promises and his realities as well as Senator obama's...You will see a distinct difference. John McCain has over 25 years of history in Washington to check through. Senator obama has less of a record, yet, judge for yourself, who is really true to their word. McCain backed down from a bill he co-sponsered. Why/ Political expediency..........DON'T BUY THE LIE!!!

Posted by: need4trth | June 28, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Hello my good friend RAT-The! Do you like "Rat"'s because they chewed the chin of your super hero, Sean Hannity? Come on, you know it's TRUE!!! Sean had his chin off while spending all of his time in the sewer with "Rat"s. And that's where you derive your "Truth" and "Patriosism" from sucker. My advice, please go move to a another country when BHO wins in a landslide. It'll do a zenophobe like you some good.

Posted by: htruman | June 28, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

OK! OK! Obama might have done better if he'd chanted "Changó ta bení" a couple of times. Still, McCain took more hits for supposedly opposing illegal immigration, something he promoted through McCain-Kennedy and that he said would be his top priority in The White House. McCain's being hoisted on his own canard, not just his own petard, while Obama's coming across as "Señor Cool." The RNC had better convince McCain to say "Adiós" and soon so they can put in a real candidate.

Posted by: Clay Bullröhr | June 28, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"We need to make America the country that it was and not the country that it is right now

Posted by: Charles Queen"

Let me guess Chuck, you mean a country where you would not have been allowed to vote because of disenfranchisement?

Posted by: Sean Hannity Has No Chin | June 28, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Clay! Your English & Spanish need help! Try this:

Posted by: Larrry R. Lugnut | June 28, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Don't be fooled readers. Jose is no concerned hispanic voter. In fact "Jose" is "Spanification" for this individual's long standing nickname of "Hoser". Turns out some middle school educated folks are having a hard time dealing with the miseduction that received on the U.S. Civil way, which as contempary evidence is now showing was won by the North.

Sorry "Hoser"!

Posted by: Sean Hannity Has No Chin | June 28, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama mught have done better if he'd chanted "Changó ta bení" a couple of times. Still, McCain took more hits for supposedly opposing illegal immigration, something he promoted through McCain-Kennedy and that he said would be his top priority in The White House. McCain's being hoisted on his own canard, not just his own petard, while Obama's coming across as "Senor Cool." The RNC had better convince McCain to say "Adiós" and soon so they can put in a real candidate.

Posted by: Clayton Bullröhr | June 28, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama: screw americans and their unemployment problem, we can't allow wages to go up, and we need the illegals to keep those wages stagnant, and when we give amnesty there will be 20 million more unemployed Americans as we allow 20 million more illgals to take their place

McCain: screw americans and their unemployment problem, we can't allow wages to go up, and we need the illegals to keep those wages stagnant, and when we give amnesty there will be 20 million more unemployed Americans as we allow 20 million more illgals to take their place.

Posted by: John C. Page III | June 28, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Yo ALL POLITICIANS ARE LYING SCUMBAGS - Welcome to real world, it's not perfect!! And sorry neither is Ralph Nadar or whoever you're holding out for. Sorry dude JC is not running any time soon and unfortunately you're black and white perspective on things is nothing but counter productivity. My advice, quite whining and realize that the complex world we live in requires nuanced, relativistic solutions.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Re: Senator Obama

This false accusation clearly shows who-he-is. I agree with others that Obama should visit Cuba first to meet the dictator and to court Hispanic voters.

Posted by: peace4world | June 28, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Quiet Patriot - you're not a patriot. you're just another loser who uses scapegoats to feel better about yourself.

Posted by: htruman | June 28, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

John McCain switched gears on the immigration issue partly because of pressure exerted in his home state. Some of it came from Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio who is being scrutinized by the State's Attorney General's Office and Federal authorities for racial profiling. The Governor also felt the need take a harder line on illegal immigrants in order to please the conservative constituency. Politics as usual, just move wherever the wind takes you. James P. Krehbiel, author, Stepping Out of the Bubble

Posted by: James P. Krehbiel | June 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

McLame: I am against the bill I helped write.

Can you think of a bigger flip flop????

Hahahahahaha!

Posted by: Frank D | June 28, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

y problem is not a path to citizenship as long as they return to their country and start the process legally. My problem is Obama's willingness spend taxpayer dollars to give all 12 million illegals universal healthcare without being a U.S. citizen. That means your grandparents, and parents will have to wait in line behind illegals to get treatment.

Posted by: Realitycheck | June 28, 2008 6:57 PM
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Good point --but most of those folks go to the local emergency room for healthcare and we all pay for that. If we included 12 million more relatively young and healthy undocumented in a national healthcare program - but made their registration and tax paying a condition for inclusion - we may be able to work our way out of the double trouble we now have.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

it seems to me that obama is developing quite a "selective memory.

the story wrote,

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"[mccain]"walked away" from his own legislation in order to win the GOP presidential primary.

"When he [mccain] was running for his party's nomination, he walked away from that commitment,"

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

yea, well obama seemed to walk away from HIS COMMITMENT to use national campaign financing... and THIS COMMITMENT was in order win HIS primary nomination.

personally.. i don't like people that change the rules to suit their game.

hillary tried to do it with florida and michigan, and i lost ALL MY RESPECT for her at that point..

and when obama dropped his campaign pledge to use national financing, i lost ALL MY RESPECT for him at that point.

and mccain? he's just just plain senile.

wonderful.

2008 is starting to sound like 2004... choosing the LESSER OF THE TWO EVILS...

ALL POLITICIANS ARE LYING SCUMBAGS.


Posted by: disillusioned in america | June 28, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't the title of your story include McCain? He, too, was courting Hispanic votes in the very same venue! This is biased reporting.

Posted by: Media Watch | June 28, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Amnesty will lead to civil war, not because the American people have anything against Mexicans in particular - though it is a crap country. The civil war will be because government will have so thoroughly ignored, thwarted, and disrespected the will of the people, and this is likely the instance of one governmental overreach too far. McCain is old and tired. Obama threatens us with his dishonesty, his racism, narcissism, and megalomania. With McCain we have to fight to muddle through. With Obama, we will have to fight against totalitarian national socialism. Our government is broken. To those who have taken the oath, get ready, we and the Constitution have enemies both foreign and domestic.

Posted by: Quiet Patriot | June 28, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Soooo, Juan McAmnesty is the Champion of National Security, Huh?!

Where?

Iraq?


Uhhhh, Juan, McAmnesty the Moronic and Senile RINO, what would you call an invasion of a Country so massive, that 1 out of 20 People is here ILLEGALLY, with us having no records about them?

Other than their Kids, who have overwhelmed and Retarded our Schools!


Personally, I'd sort of call that a MAJOR National Security Issue! :-(

1 out of 20 on Average McClown!

In Texas, California, New Mexico, Aridzona, Floriduh, Nuevo Orleans and LoserAnna, it is MUCH Higher!

There are more Illegal Immigrants now, than Legal Ones!

I have a REAL Problem with that Fact, and YOU!

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 28, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Mccain could star in the next "Weekend at Bernie's" and be very convincing as a dead guy. That is about how much personality he has.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

No, Obama is news, Mccain is a corpse that no one cares about. They write articles they think people my want to read. If Mccain has a stroke he may get some coverage, till then he is just a bore.

+++++++++++
Is it my imagination or does the WaPo write 10 articles to every one for McCain. I guess it is because they support him but it would be nice to see more balance.

Posted by: | June 28, 2008 6:51 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiosity, did any of you even watch it? They hardly even mentioned Immigration. Is that all you think Hispanic Americans care about? They talked about the war, the economy, gas prices, schools and so on.

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Right thats just what this country dose not need is more people immagrating to it. We need to take care of our own country and it's citizens before we keep letting everybody and their brother in. We need to cut off funding every contry that whines until we can take care of our own people,that is reality.We need to close off our borders until we can take care of our own. We need to stop buisinesses from leaving this country in favor of slave wages. We need to put our people back to work. Mandatory hispanic schools? i think not if they want that they need to go back to where they came from. We need to make America the country that it was and not the country that it is right now

Posted by: Charles Queen | June 28, 2008 6:41 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"I think that he is actually interested in working out some reasonable compromise between rounding up 14.5 million undocumented aliens (men, women and kids) and marching them at gunpoint through the desert and across the border - or giving them all immediate safe haven and immunity from prosecution for breaking our laws."
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Give us a break from the hyperbole, Gandalf. Enforcement of existing employment laws will expose your sturm und drang visions as the fantasies they are.

Posted by: | June 28, 2008 6:20 PM

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Exactly --- today the local Maricopa County Sheriff, Joe Arpaio is busy enforcing the existing employment laws in Mesa, Arizona.

His deputies are stopping the vehicles of anyone who "looks" hispanic and demanding identification --- check your national news tonight and see employment profiling in action. Or follow this link.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/2008/06/28/20080628sheriffsweep-ON.html

Arpaio's "crime sweep" is being monitored bt both the Arizona Attorney Generals Office and the Federal authorities who are responding the hundreds of complaints about racial profiling and harassment in nearby communities who have suffered the Sheriff's intrusive enforcement of existing laws over the objections of local elected officials and municipal law enforcement officers.

As the Sheriff is fond of pointing out -- "It is MY interpretation of the laws that matters" - not the wishy-washy opinion of some local mayor.

Posted by: sturm und drang | June 28, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I am all for Major Over-Hauls to the Immigration process and Major Reforms!

Like, a REVERSAL there-of!

Imagine, sipping Margaritas, or drinking Cervezas on the Arroyo at Sunset, watching the Invasarios swimming SOUTH!

"Ohhhh, how Adorable! Look! That Couple has their Spawn with them!" ;~)

Hasta la Vista! Adios! Don't come back now-Hear!

Posted by: RAT-The | June 28, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is no friend of Mexico. Trust a black man at your peril.

Posted by: Jose | June 28, 2008 5:48 PM

_________
Proves my point in my previous post.

Posted by: Roy | June 28, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Latino problem stems from their cultural distrust of darker skinned people.
(Don't tell me it's not true - I have lived in Mexico for four years and have seen it first hand).

Whether they over come this depends on if they look at what they have to loose with four more years of McCain. Latinos voted for Schwarzenegger instead of his Latino opponent in California thinking it would be "padre" to have "The Terminator" for a governor. They soon found he was not their friend when he vetoed drivers license legislation.

Posted by: Roy | June 28, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

y problem is not a path to citizenship as long as they return to their country and start the process legally. My problem is Obama's willingness spend taxpayer dollars to give all 12 million illegals universal healthcare without being a U.S. citizen. That means your grandparents, and parents will have to wait in line behind illegals to get treatment.

Posted by: Realitycheck | June 28, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Poll after poll show the majority of Americans do not think law breakers should be rewarded for their illegal actions.

I guess Obama, McCain and the rest of Congress just don't get it.

What will it take?

Posted by: Fred | June 28, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

No mas por favor!

Juan McAmnesty and Barry O'Flip-Floppa pandering to the Hispanics about who is their best ally in their invasion of our Country;

IS EXACTLY WHY I DO NOT WANT EITHER IN THE WHITE HOUSE!

Congress will steamroll Amnesty down our throats, and either will sign it off!

The Last Amnesty turned into the FLOOD of Hispanics that occurred! For every Illegal granted Citizenship, the new Citizen had dozens of Relatives they used their NEW Citizen's rights to get in!

Let's see; Twelve to twenty MILLION times the FOUR to EIGHT on their backs, comes to DOUBLING our Population!

Golly, adding 20 Million at a time, I guess they would quickly become our fastest growing NON-ASSIMILATING Group. :-(


McAmnesty and O'Bomba-Nation would be SHOT, as Traitors, for trying to pull the same Stunt in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvidor, or Honduras-where these "Children of God" come from,

For doing what they are doing here-There!

But then, those Countries do not allow Traitors to pull Sell-Outs on them!

Mitt Romney for the GOP Nominee.

REMOVE the Senile and Traitorous RINO NOW!

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 28, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Our country will become an Obamanation to God if Obama is elected

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The last thing we need to do is to let those that are here illegaly stay here. They do need to be sent back to their own country's we owe them nothing. They broke the law and are nothing more than common criminals and should be treated as such. No more illegals and no more immagrations until we take care of our own people and our own country. That also includes the cutting off of all foriegn aid which we never see being paid back anyways. No more free rides!!!

Posted by: Charles Queen | June 28, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

So Obama is following John McCain's lead based on the bipartisan work done by John McCain.

Seems like John McCain is the leader again.

While Americans might applaud a good orator, it doesn't mean they will vote for him.

Posted by: McCain Woman Democrat | June 28, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Is it my imagination or does the WaPo write 10 articles to every one for McCain. I guess it is because they support him but it would be nice to see more balance.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

a mexican- american may not vote for bh.

Posted by: Vato | June 28, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

YOU

You Senator Obama walked away from your Church for which you were a member for 20 years. You walked away from your pastor who was your mentor with whom you traveled Africa to find your roots.

How can I trust YOU not to walk way from Hispanic voters?

Give me a break--Jay (FL)

Posted by: Jay Gonzalez | June 28, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Right thats just what this country dose not need is more people immagrating to it. We need to take care of our own country and it's citizens before we keep letting everybody and their brother in. We need to cut off funding every contry that whines until we can take care of our own people,that is reality.We need to close off our borders until we can take care of our own. We need to stop buisinesses from leaving this country in favor of slave wages. We need to put our people back to work. Mandatory hispanic schools? i think not if they want that they need to go back to where they came from. We need to make America the country that it was and not the country that it is right now

Posted by: Charles Queen | June 28, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Immigration should be the top priority for both candidates.

Posted by: Jessica | June 28, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The negativism here is unbelievable.
Both McCain and Obama are good people.
Both are excellent candidates for the president.
Both are better than the major candidates in the last 8 years.
Don't believe all the negative attacks you read, folks.
Make a judgement based upon who you think will bring America the right direction, not based upon the lesser of two evils. This time we really have America properly represented!

Posted by: Oliver | June 28, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

This is why I will vote for neither of these clowns... They show little respect for US citizens and legal immigrants by following this path.

Posted by: josh | June 28, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

to Jose

"Obama is no friend of Mexico. Trust a black man at your peril."

clearly you are a troll with a double target, to make both sen Obama and Mexicans seem evil.

Well THIS Mexican supports Obama, so take your trolling somewhere else

Posted by: Gabriel | June 28, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama has never abused, beaten, cheated on and walked away from his wife like Mccain. Also, after seeing Mccains act today, you better hope to god Mccain never appears on the same stage with Obama again. He is a walking corpse. This thing was a joke for Mccain. He could not even get applause.

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Obama has nerve....he has walked away from every responsibility in his life...in IL Senate, US Senate, etc.

Arrogance combined with ignorance...a dangerous affirmative action opportunist!!

His delusions of grandeur are getting obnoxious...yet he can't even sit down with Mc Cain in a town hall meeting....couldn't debate with Clinton!!

Obama the gamer and scammer!

Posted by: Steve | June 28, 2008 6:05 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse


We are stuck between a Barack and a McHardplace with McCain and Obama, as they both want to continue the failed policies of the Bush administration..yes, Obama also wants to continue the failed policies of the Bush administration under the guise of redeployment ...translation ... continue empire building for the benefit of a system of Global White Supremacy that is going to make America, Israel and the Middle East less safe.

Redeployment will exponentialy increase unnecessary war spending, continue the unnecessary failed policies of the Bush administration, and increase the national debt.

McCain and Obama are both frauds. Neither of them ever talk about sound money, the federal reserves stranglehold on our monetary system, adherence to the constitution particulary the 4th and 6th amendments to the constitution which are now dead letters or anything else accepting taking away the freedoms of US citizens in exchange for making War Profiteers and Oil Profiteers richer.

It's enough to make you sick.

Support the Troops
End The War
Bring the Troops Home Alive

Posted by: Michael | June 28, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

They are *both* pandering to the latin community.

Sen McCain is all for trading with China and Russia, but Cuba is, according to him the only tyrant we shouldn't do business with.
His foreign policy towards Cuba is, just like Clinton and Bush, subservient towards American politics.

They are both pandering. But only one will walk away with the lion's share of latin votes. And the other is going to have a lot of 'splaining to do to his base.

McCain's policies and his campaign is a loose collection of junk. His campaign, like his policies, lack cohesion.

Posted by: JR, Boston | June 28, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Amy Goldstein is using the recommended talking points: a while back some groups suggesting changing their spiel from "giving" illegal aliens citizenship to "requiring" them to register. BHO started using that form, and so does Amy Goldstein.

Goldstein also fails to point out that NALEO has a link to the Mexican government; perhaps she should ask them about that.

Perhaps she should also point out that, under "reform", supposed stepped-up border enforcement would be combined with more power for those groups that currently oppose border enforcement. In other words, under BHO or McCain there'd be the same amount as there is now, if not even less.

She might also want to point out that there's no line to "wait in turn behind": the line is constantly being replenished, and any illegal aliens who are processed will take time from processing those already following our established procedures. In other words, all those people in foreign countries doing things the right way would be screwed over.

If anyone wants to do something about this, go to a BHO appearance, ask him one of the following, and then upload his response to Youtube:

http://nomoreblather.com/obama-questions

Posted by: NoMoreBlatherDotCom | June 28, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Mccains people can say what they want but if you watch it you will see the difference in the reception each got. It was all Mccain could do to muster even a smattering of applause. While Obama received a standing ovation on a couple of occasions as well as continued applause. When the camera scanned the audience when Obama was speaking all you saw were smiles faces and people straining with their cameras to get a picture. Obama is a rock star and Mccain is a corpse in a suit.

The contrast is so absolutely shocking when they appear together, in this case one before another, It can't be over stated. Obama looks vibrant, healthy, sharp, smart, quick. Mccain looks like he may die while on the stage, stammering and stuttering much less have the health and stamina to preform the responsibilities of president. He also could not remember again who was fighting in Iraq. When it came time to use any names he resorted to, they, them, insurgents, enemy and so on. Never once referring to anyone by name. He preformed as bad as I have seen him since this thing started. There is something wrong with Mccain, his memory and ability to keep things straight in his head long enough to get it out of his mouth. I hope they appear together as often as possible.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

"I think that he is actually interested in working out some reasonable compromise between rounding up 14.5 million undocumented aliens (men, women and kids) and marching them at gunpoint through the desert and across the border - or giving them all immediate safe haven and immunity from prosecution for breaking our laws."
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Give us a break from the hyperbole, Gandalf. Enforcement of existing employment laws will expose your sturm und drang visions as the fantasies they are.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Illegals leave our country - you are not wanted here.

and if any of your brethern, aid, and abet you, strip them of their green cards, citizenship, or whatever, and deport them too!!

Posted by: Buzzm1 | June 28, 2008 5:50 PM

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There are many tens of millions of folks here in this country who do not agree with you.

You may wish to reconsider once you realize that our economy - especially in the construction, agriculture and hospitality sectors is highly dependent on the honest, hard-working contributions made by hispanic immigrants.

In fact -- that may be how we sort out immigration priorities. Certain sectors of our economy need workers. Employees in those sectors may be afforded a quicker path to legitimacy -- sort of how we forgive school loans if the graduate agrees to work in a high demand area.

In fact, that is how we sort out legal immigrant priorities now ---highly sought after skills are sought out by industry from among those applying for entry to our country.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

America is not in favor of comprehensive immigration reform, but watch, nobody will bring it up because they know their voters won't like what they stand for so they will lie to their faces...

Posted by: Dwight | June 28, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain no more "walked away" than you did Obama from your church of hate. This country's next leader shouldn't be pandering to a group whose majority aren't here legally, right Obama?

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | June 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I suggest you change the caption at the top of this article to:

Senator Obama panders to the Hispanic community.

He attempts to tell them what he thinks they want to hear.

Posted by: thall | June 28, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

He walked away because it is the new third rail of politics (See Chris Cannon...).

The American.. I mean U.S. people are not in favor of amnesty in any form. I think most politicians will take note of that and act accordingly.

Posted by: Bill Mosby | June 28, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Every time that Sen McCain mentions the word immigration, a large slice of his core supporters cringe. And he doesn't gain much. Does he think that latinos really trust "el gringo de la inmigracion"?

So immigration "will be my top priority yesterday, today and tomorrow." Really? Higher on the to-do list than the economy and national security? Higher than the environment, health care and education?

If McCain really cared about immigration he would have done something about it a long time ago. It's been a problem for the full 20 years that he's been in the Senate. And because people like him have ignored problems like immigration and energy policy and heath care and education, we are in the mess we are in now.

It's only right before the election that he started proposing amnesty. Right when he figured that he needed to win Colorado and New Mexico.

Ain't happenin' buddy. "No to amnesty. No to McCain!"


Posted by: JR, Boston | June 28, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama has nerve....he has walked away from every responsibility in his life...in IL Senate, US Senate, etc.

Arrogance combined with ignorance...a dangerous affirmative action opportunist!!

His delusions of grandeur are getting obnoxious...yet he can't even sit down with Mc Cain in a town hall meeting....couldn't debate with Clinton!!

Obama the gamer and scammer!

Posted by: Steve | June 28, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Both of these clowns better get on the side of the American citizens.

I really wish we had a true conservative that was fiscally responsible to vote for.

Posted by: ladxx | June 28, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama will have to do a lot of fence mending with our Latin American neighbors, especially Colombia, America's greatest ally in LA. The president of Colombia early on pegged Obama as someone who didn't know the first thing about foreign affairs.

I am a Democrat and do not know one Hispanic who plans to cast their vote for Obama. Most are staying home.

I am sorry to say, but I fear he may be a menace on the international scene, even worse than Bush if you can see that.

Posted by: Political Watchdog | June 28, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

This is running on almost a loop on cspan and is worth watching before commenting.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Respectfully I submit that the immigration issue is not an on/off decision that McCain can walk away from as either the senior Senator from Arizona or as our President. Those of us here in Arizona - fullay recognize our Senator's waffling and backing up.

I think that he is actually interested in working out some reasonable compromise between rounding up 14.5 million undocumented aliens (men, women and kids) and marching them at gunpoint through the desert and across the border - or giving them all immediate safe haven and immunity from prosecution for breaking our laws.

Unfortunately, in his breathless rush to abandon every single one of his long-held ethical positions (immigration, torture, drilling off the coasts, etc.) to gain his party's nomination - he has worked his way into a box canyon and there is no way out.

Obama is rightly positioned to appeal to hispanic voters as a reasonable centrist interested in finding a way to close the borders while developing a way for many of those already here to work their way into line for permanent status.

Too cute - by half - McCain is again on the wrong side of this issue and will pay the price for his duplicity as he stuggles with the campaign breaking load of Bush's terrible legacy. The one position that Bush tried to take -- on immigration - might have pulled moderates toward McCain - had the latter not abandoned principle for political gain.

Posted by: GandalftheGrey | June 28, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what McCain, or Obama, says about granting a path to citizenship for illegals; Americans will never allow it to happen!!

Americans are sick and tired of illegal immigrants leaching off of American taxpayers, in addition to using forged, falsified, or stolen identities, to illegally take jobs, that rightfully belong to Americans!!

Illegals leave our country - you are not wanted here.

and if any of your brethern, aid, and abet you, strip them of their green cards, citizenship, or whatever, and deport them too!!

Posted by: Buzzm1 | June 28, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Re: Senator Obama

Again this is great news for Senator McCain. Senator Obama's advisors have to study what he has spoken and done for Hispanics and his foreign policy rhetoric concerning Cuba.

Posted by: peace4world | June 28, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain is no minorities friend. Not blacks, browns or any color. He's not women's friends either. Just look at his history. MLK day, equal pay for women and host of others.

Every time he says "my friends" I just get sick to my stomach. He's no friend of mine. I got a fund raising letter from him the other day - of course it starts out with "My friend," - Argh!!!! - and goes on to misstate what Democrats would do if elected. I am terribly tempted to send back the enclosed envelope with a wooden nickel or monopoly money or empty - which would be the most fitting for his empty promises.

Posted by: Margaret | June 28, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama is no friend of Mexico. Trust a black man at your peril.

Posted by: Jose | June 28, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

What heartstopping BS. McCain suffered serious slings and arrows from his right when he co-managed the balanced attempt of McCain-Kennedy. If Obama can offer one example of similar political courage on his part, he might have a platform to criticize, but he doesn't so on this matter, shut up.

Posted by: Ed | June 28, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Of course the media made a big deal of Obama's lack of support among Hispanics compared to Hillary, but they never put that favoritism for Hillary in context.

Among Hispanics, Hillary vs Obama won. Between McCain and Obama among Hispanics Obama wins. Another miscue from the media!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | June 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Yes, McCain did walk away from his bipartisan action to put illegal immigrants on a pathway to citizenship. If the media were to look at McCain's positions on immigration throughout this campaign season they have been the total opposite of McCain's action as a Senator and 2000 presidential candidate.

Either you are in favor of illegal immigrants getting citizenship or you are not. Just like you are in favor of gun ownership for every American or you are against it.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | June 28, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Why Mccain dose not give any SPECIFICS on this? WHY THE SPIN WORDS?

"McCain, who spoke prior to Obama's appearance, insisted that immigration "will be my top priority yesterday, today and tomorrow." He said the federal government eventually should create a method for immigrants living in the U.S. illegally to become citizens, in addition to strengthening security measures to prevent foreigners from sneaking across the borders."

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

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