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Old Jobs Not Coming Back, McCain Warns Ohio Autoworkers

By Michael D. Shear
LORDSTOWN, Ohio -- Sen. John McCain told autoworkers here that he will continue to support the free trade agreements that many of them blame for the loss of their jobs, but said he is hopeful that a shift to new technologies will provide a new market for their skills.

In a town hall meeting with employee at the General Motors plant here, McCain was greeted warmly by about 100 employees. He toured the plant, where GM makes the fuel efficient Chevrolet Cobalt.

"I'm here because I want to see first hand what can be done not only to retain jobs here in the heartland of America, but also to move forward," he said. "America is hurting now. The heartland of America is hurting."

McCain was criticized during the Republican primaries for saying while campaigning in Michigan that some of the old economy jobs would not be coming back to America in the future.

But McCain didn't back down then, and reiterated that message on Friday, saying that the government should provide better worker retraining programs and incentives for companies like GM to create new jobs making environmentally sensitive products.

"The same old jobs aren't going to be there," he said. "The new jobs are here at Lordstown."

General Motors has announced that it plans to sell a totally electric vehicle in 2010. McCain this week proposed a $300 million award to anyone inventing a radically better electric car battery.

In answer to one of the employees, McCain said he does not support a "classic" bailout should one of the Big Three American automakers go bankrupt. But he said he would "make the research and development tax credit permanent" so that companies can invest in new technologies.

By Web Politics Editor  |  June 27, 2008; 5:31 PM ET
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The jobs aren't coming back, but problems with the economy are "mostly psychological". Go McCain 08!

Posted by: Christina West | June 29, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Geico will let you use your car as a home too. Listen to the geko

Posted by: bozo | June 28, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse


Again for the truly DENSE!!

NO, Registration, Issues CLEARLY Defined!

Is you alls Stupids?

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 28, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

We are so screwed this election. One old fool, one new fool. Good year to be Chinese, etc. and just watch half schooled cantidates show how litle they know.

Posted by: NoneSoBlind | June 27, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Ahh McCain the visionary. Your jobs aren't coming back, your economic problems are psychological. What does McCain know about jobs, when he needed money he just married sugar momma Cindy.

John McCain's plan for America: More wars less jobs!

Posted by: Julian | June 27, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry...mcCain wants all you unemployed auto workers to join the military and die for big oil. Hence he wants to keep troops for 100 years in Iraq.

Posted by: playa | June 27, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Thank God we still have our guns because it might be the only way to get our country back.

Posted by: HemiHead | June 27, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

The latest supreme court ruling on the second amendment has nothing to do with guns. It has to do with power. The court has removed the power of Petty mayors and Gov.and returned it to the people. Power is the reason that they are all screaming about this ruling. Do you honestly think the Mayor of Washington DC gives a crap wither you live or die. What a joke. 60,000 people die in car acc. every year. I don't think they will ever Understand these words. "WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF YOU PEOPLE TELLING US WHAT IS BEST FOR US."

Posted by: Rod | June 27, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Whats crazy is this is a small group of people pulling the strings, using our military to benefit themselves. The only way I see out of this is for the next president, if it's Obama, to use the military to get rid of all of them and turn the government back over to the people. I don't think Bush is going to let this election take place. These people have so much money and power that they can use people like those Blackwater Mercs to do anything they want. We may have to fight to get this country back all over again.

Posted by: HemiHead | June 27, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

HemiHead - Right on! You don't see any other countries allowing foreigners to buy their land, infrastructure, and everything else that isn't tied down. I think we have a much better chance with Obama, too. McCain is just one of THEM.

Posted by: springchickennot | June 27, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Juan McAmnesty has a SERIOUS problem with REALITY!

He is the kind of Nut-Job, who will cry about American's and our Industries needing Un-Employment and Subsidies, while trying to legalize 20 Million Job Stealing, Wage destroying, Hospital and community over-whelming INVADERS on us and cry we need Comprehensive Immigration Reform and Worker Visas!

You do not have to register like Barack requires, and you owe it to yourself to reads his "Issues"!

No CONGRESSIONAL Beltway Insider Clowns in the White House-PLEASE!

Posted by: SAINT---The | June 27, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Substandard products, who do you think invented the automobile. How are you going to buy those cheap Chinese products with no jobs to make money. I bought a pair of wolverine boots that are now made in China, and the sole split in half in one week because of substandard rubber. The FDA used to monitor drugs that were made in the U.S. with a few milliom dollars. Now that their made in China it costs taxpayers several hundred million dollars for the FFDA to keep us safe. I have T shirts made in India with thread hanging off them, and when you try to pull it off the whole seam unwinds. When you use child labor, sure your products are going to cost less. When you dump all your garbage in the river, sure your products are going to cost less. If you have no health and retirement benefits, your products are going to cost less. Do you know what communism is. Robot workers making their masters rich. The stockmarket is an animal that can never be fed enough. A company that makes 500 million a year in profit, is not good enough because the market always wants more and more and more profit. You cant feed the corporate machine enough. Some of you people have no idea what your talking about. 100 years of American technology given to the Chinese so the criminals in our government can get rich on oil. U.S. jobs go to Mexico cause they have oil. U.S. jobs go to Canada cause they have oil. China gives us money so we can fight a war for oil, and they get our jobs. We, the taxpayers, get stuck having to pay China back, and the oil companies get filthy rich on Iraqi oil. Do you see anyone looking out for the people of this country. Trade deals are not worth spit unless the playing is leveled so everyone can participate. I worked for Coca Cola for 14 years and my health benefits were reduced three times. The last year I was there all pentions were stoped. This is going on all over the country. Do you see a pattern. Our country is being sold off piece by piece. I see people coming out of college working for Wal-mart. Wake up people. I don't know if Obama will help, but McCain will finish us off.

Posted by: HemiHead | June 27, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Tyrone - Too late! Bush has already beat Obama to it, at least as far as ruining the economy is concerned. We are at far greater risk if we have a weak economy if we have to fight a war where we are actually attacked. This one has just made it more likely to happen since it has made us more enemies. To blame Obama for what Bush has already done is nonsense.

Posted by: springchickennot | June 27, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

FA is right, the new technology McCain touts is not going to help industrial workers. Whenever American companies create a new technological product, within a few years the product is being manufactured in Asia; computers, flat screen TV's, DVD palyers, etc. These industries create jobs here for service people and financial managers, not blue collar workers. If we want to create blue collar jobs here, we need to look at fixing our crumbling infrstructure. McCain seems to believe all such projects are "pork."

Posted by: bgjd1979 | June 27, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to sink this country into a second Depression. You wait and see. I predict two years into his first term, major stock market crash, continued drought and wildfires spreading to the midwest and widespread famine in the continental U.S. Also, several more terrorist attacks on American soil. Obama is goint to empty the middle east of American soldiers and the terrorists are going to spread across Europe
Vote for Obama if you want this kind of chaos to happen.

Posted by: Tyrone | June 27, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

.....but we have a spot for you in the military after you get out of debtors prison!

Posted by: | June 27, 2008 5:36 PM

LOL - too true!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 27, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for Obama but McCain is right. Here are a few reasons why the American auto industry is doomed.

1. The rediculously powerful auto unions that negotiated obscenely high wages and benifits that were way beyond what a competitive market would allow. This both caused a loss in profit and a loss in quality of goods to try and make up for that loss profit. Even with the dollar at an all time low, car exports should be way up but no one wants our cars. US car sales in Japan account for less the 1% of all cars sold.

2. Japan makes 5 high quality widgets for 5 dollars while the US makes 4 medium/low quality widgets for 5 dollars. You have 5 dollars who do you buy your widgets from?

Car quality and dependability is improving for US cars but its to late. Pyschologically we see German cars, and think performance, we see Japanese cars and we think reliablity, what do you think Americans think of American cars.

I feel sorry for everyone losing there jobs but lets stop with the America is #1 attitude.

If a US worker loses his job to a poor person in another country that can create a widget of similar quality, and much cheaper, all while having his standard of living vastly improve. How are we to say that is unfair.

Overall this is better for the world. Now the world gets a cheaper high quality product and everyone has more money to spend on other things.

Life can be unfair, but when you take a step back, losing your job in America is much better then being a wealthy person in Burma.

Study, go to school, you can get a degree in less then 2 years online. Paralegal, dental assistant, etc are great jobs that are in high demand and take very little training. In some of these countries your only option is blue collar jobs you have oppurtunities in the US


Posted by: Realist | June 27, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

What a lot of the posters fail to realize is none of the political candidates are down to earth. They are all from an entirely different class than us "working folk". It dates back to the industrial era; they needed two classes of workers. The thinkers and the doers. That is why they created public education and college. They were meant to separate people, not provide opportunity like they do now. Unfortunately the same families have been in power for decades as a result. If you think Barack or Hillary are better than McCain you are kidding yourself.

Posted by: Shane M | June 27, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Why is the UAW opposed to building plants in the USA like the one featured in the video below? Does it make more sense to send this technology and efficiency to another country? Who is really at fault for this, I wonder. Watch this video and you decide!

Turn your sound on!

To all the UAW this is what is happening in the auto industry.
I assume the unions are aware of this problem, because thsy caused it.

Posted by: jjjm | June 27, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Why is the UAW opposed to building plants in the USA like the one featured in the video below? Does it make more sense to send this technology and efficiency to another country? Who is really at fault for this, I wonder. Watch this video and you decide!

Turn your sound on!

To all the UAW this is what is happening in the auto industry.
I assume the unions are aware of this problem, because thsy caused it.

Posted by: jjjm | June 27, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain is out of touch, he talks about new technologies - what new technologies. All the technology jobs are being outsourced & offshored!!!!. You look at any major financial, technology companies - all the jobs are moving away, as these companies only care for their bottom line, they don't care for America. I predict in the next 10 years there will be only service industries left here. I say, we should have boycott of products, credit card, cars etc. of companies that offshore/outsource job overseas. If you are going to get my hard earned money, it better go to local economy. Not sure what Barack will do to keep jobs here either!!! So I think America we are stuck between rock and a hard place. Folks what do U think?

Posted by: FA | June 27, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

There are some real structural issues in today's economy that are just not being addressed. In addition to auto workers, there are many white collars employees in their 40's and 50's who also find themselves without work. Having worked in advertising for most of my adult life, I saw first hand as myself and other older and better paid employees were the first to be let go during the wave of mergers that consolidated the industry. I spent $30,000 on getting another degree thinking that I would enhance my ability to find work. What a shock it was to discover that no one wants to hire even a very youthful and fit 50 year old for an entry level position. So instead of being able to support myself by working, I am now draining my retirement fund and paying tax penalties for early withdrawal. What kind of future do I and others less fortunate face?

Posted by: charlie | June 27, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

looks like McCain and/or his advisers have been watching the movie "Primary Colors" again. LOL.

Posted by: clarlune | June 27, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree that it sucks what he says. However, isn't it kind of true? Or is Big Auto going to essentially be taken over by the US taxpayers? I'm from timber country, and its sad to see, but it seems like the days where you start at a job at 18 and retire at that job are over, blue or white collar. Would we prefer that he lie for a vote, and not prepare people for the future economy?

Posted by: Matthew | June 27, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Let's clarify something - America is #1, but there is only one way to go when you're at the top and that's down. Let's be very realistic. Our country is competing on a global market and we're not the #1 oil consumer anymore, which means we've lost our foreign "discount" card with the Oil chiefs.

The real question is - when will we wake up as a society and realize that we're in this together - Donkies and Elephants - Black and White - Man and Woman.

Unite and let's stay #1, because the alternative is not acceptable.

Posted by: Curious George | June 27, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Anyone with a decent education, (public schools exempted) has known for THIRTY YEARS that the UNIONIZED factories were DEAD!! NO ONE with an IQ above 100 willingly has a unionized staff. Kiss your #$%^ good by if you are unionized. Unions were valid for about 10 years, then the sole reason the United States can no longer run any manufacturing businesses.
The ONLY unions today are governmental and educational, ALL a disaster from every single standard.
Government is the problem, Self responsibility is the solution.
The candidates for president are both horrendous, no gonads, no values above
Bill Clinton and Eliot Spitzer. Throw ALL of Congress out and hire Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Goofy Bloomberg, Steve Forbes, and our country will be great again before these other jerks are out of unemployment insurance!!!

Posted by: Michael Manley | June 27, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

@Chicago1 Heavy industry never died, it just moved to China. What do you think they make skyscrapers out of nowadays, corn stalks?

It wouldn't be too bad if we at least brought some of that back, maybe even found a cleaner way to do it.

Posted by: Paul | June 27, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

It is disappointing to hear McCain has given up on our jobs when we are still fighting to keep them here every day. Shame, McCain!

Posted by: Ohio worker | June 27, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Free trade does not reduce jobs in this country - creating substandard products at high prices does. If another country produces something of better quality and/or for signifigantly less money, I'm glad as a consumer that I have the chance to buy it. That is better for our economy. Taxing the manufacturers that excel (out-of-country or otherwise) more than substandard manufacturers removes the manufacturer's incentive to excel, and then you're left with... communism. Keep government and whacky tax laws away from our free market, and the world's free market. The markets can take care of themselves. As a country, let's be competitive, innovative, and find our new place in the world economy! Hear that, Dems?

Posted by: Ken M. In Phoenix | June 27, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN got Anally Raped by the Russian KGB and now he wants to be President Pin Cushion

Posted by: coenholed john | June 27, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Neither candidate gives a f.... about the American worker. Neither is even encouraging their followers to buy things made in America. If people don't wise up and start thinking about how thier actions affect the economy and the trade deficiet, then the US is heading to become a third world country.

Posted by: dman | June 27, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, McCain. (Or is it McBush?) You don't have to worry; you have your money; your wife is rich in her own right. Why would you really care about those losing their jobs? New technologies and new jobs? Sure, if you're young and retrainable and able to relocate. Try being in your late 40s or early 50s and looking for a job. You'll be told you're too experienced (translatation: too old). Or, you won't have the money to get the training for those new jobs. Maybe if you're lucky, you'll get a job flipping burgers while trying to make ends meet on low wages with high gas and food prices.
Get real, McCain, and get off the stage. Your time is past.

Posted by: abby0802 | June 27, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow! McCain just knows how to warm the cockles of your heart now doesn't he?

Guess he just doesn't care about that blue collar vote after all? So let's see if Faux Noise blasts that on all over the air waves like they did with Obama's "bitter" quote.

Yeah good old McCain wants to still tie the American public to the power companies instead of the oil companies. Now there's a major paradigm shift.

When's he going to totter over and wind down?

Posted by: Sparky | June 27, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Whereas Obama, of course, will resurrect heavy industry, even bringing back the steel mills.

Posted by: Chicago1 | June 27, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

.....but we have a spot for you in the military after you get out of debtors prison!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 27, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

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