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McCain's Interview on CBS


Katie Couric in Amman interviews Obama; McCain weighs in. Scroll to 3:40 for McCain segment.

By Howard Kurtz and Michael D. Shear
When CBS's Katie Couric interviewed John McCain on Tuesday, her producers edited one exchange to include part of McCain's answer to a previous question on Iraq -- and, in the process, deleted comments that have touched off a controversy.

The "CBS Evening News" interview began with Couric quoting Barack Obama as saying that "there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?"

But what viewers saw next was not what the Arizona senator said next, an out-of-order sequence that news organizations generally do not allow. It was McCain's earlier comment that "Senator Obama has indicated by his failure to acknowledge the success of the surge that he would rather lose a war than lose a campaign." That was spliced into the second part of his subsequent answer, the editing break covered by a still photo of McCain with Gen. David Petraeus.

Left on the cutting-room floor was McCain accusing Obama of "a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel MacFarland was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that's just a matter of history."

But the official, Col. Sean MacFarland, has said that Sunni leaders began cooperating against al-Qaeda months before President Bush's surge began. McCain aides say Couric did not ask him about the chronology. "Senator McCain is correct," said spokesman Tucker Bounds. "As General Petraeus has made clear, the surge is the reason why the Anbar awakening was so successful in tearing up al Qaeda."

In response to critics, led by MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann, CBS News Senior Vice President Paul Friedman noted the full transcript and video were available online. He added in a statement: "The report was edited under extreme time constraints and one piece of tape was put in the wrong order. Fortunately, this did not in any way distort what Senator McCain was saying."

Democrats quickly seized on McCain's statement in the interview, saying that it contained a remarkable gaffe for a politician who's supposed to be an expert on the Iraqi conflict.

As Democrats eagerly pointed out, the awakening started months before the surge in troops was announced in January of 2007. Troops did not actually get deployed until March of 2007, long after the awakening began.

McCain aides pushed back hard, emphasizing that the senator had said the surge made it possible for the awakening to succeed. "They enabled Ramadi to be first cleared and then held, and that allowed the awakening," said McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann.
"It would not have happened without the surge, and he has been very, very clear about that."

Aides to the Republican accused Democrats of trying to create a mistake where there was none. McCain has tripped up several times this week, including a misstatement about an "Iraq-Pakistan" border where there is none and more than once referring to Czechoslovakia, a country that no longer exists.

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Posted by: xnxe3qyb2l | August 11, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

You silly bickering children, listen, attend and hear: the story is this "CBS manufactured a response."

It doesn't matter a tiny bit about the candidates, the issues or even Iraq. The ONLY thing that matters here is that CBS created content rather than reporting it. That is all that matters, nothing more. If you think that this story doesn't matter you are simpleton bereft of any concept of the need for truth in democracy and the value of the fourth estate. If you cannot believe that what you see on the news is accurate you circle of understanding is instantly reduced to a tiny area of direct observation around you.

CBS needs to fire Paul Friedman and Katie Curic.

Posted by: Rhys | August 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The point is CBS has become complicit in criminal-like behavior by editing in answers of their choice.

They did McCain a huge favor, I guess they want to be king-makers.

But that's OK, because I will just simply "edit" out their sponsors from my purchasing habits.

Posted by: JR | July 28, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Whatever, Barrack has made as many ridiculous gaffes as McCain, so obviously is not an age issue. Difference is, the media doesn't get up in arms when barrack sticks his foot in his mouth. "57 states"? Is he a smoker? Hmm... No liberal bias in the media? How come MSNBC or Olbermann (or anyone other major media) wants to report that all the major media outlets donate to Democrats at better than a 10 to 1 ratio? It is a matter of public record!

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301702713742569

Posted by: J | July 28, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

The problem is not a "gaff" by McCain but whether he is mentally up to the job. This comes through as a problem, not because of several gaffs, but because of consistant disorientation. The US media is becoming like the Russian media, except that instead of FSB [fromer KGB] it is the CORPORATE PARENTS of the media outlets that want an improbable McCain win in order to get four more years of a cooperative government. As I learned when I came to America decades ago: here, money talks. So, we will get a metastatic president whom the corparate world rules, just as we had. Will we suffer the national bakrupcy we now suffer then too?

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Posted by: 9ni81mc674 | July 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

THE POINT IS THE ANBAR AWAKENING HAPPENED BEFORE THE SURGE AND MCCAIN AS MUCH AS HE TALKS ABOUT THE SURGE HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHEN THE SURGE BEGAN. BESIDES THE SAME SHEIK MCCAIN SAID WE WERE PROTECTING WAS ASSASINATED IN THE MIST OF THE SURGE. MCCAIN'S IS PUSHING THIS SURGE IDEA BECAUSE ITS HIS ONLY ARGUMENT BECAUSE PM MALIKI AND PRESIDENT BUSH HAS SIGNED ON TO OBAMA'S PLAN. OBAMA HAS SAID REPEATEDLY THAT HE AGREED THAT THE SURGE, SUNNI TROOPS AND OTHERS HELPED TO REDUCE VIOLENCE ON THE GROUND. MCCAIN IS JUST DEPERATE BECAUSE HIS WHOLE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN UNDERCUT BY BUSH AND PM MALIKI. YESTERDAY MCCAIN FINALLY SIGNED ON TO OBAMA'S PLAN DURING AN INTERVIEW WITH WOLF BLITZER ON CNN. WATCH BELOW AND SEE THE WORDS COME OUT OF MCCAINS MOUTH. MCCAIN SAID OBAMA'S 16 MONTH PLAN IS A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.
Mccain admits Obama's 16 month withdrawl plan is a pretty good idea. Mccain flips flops again. Mccain was touting all week how the surge succeeded because of the surge violence in Iraq is down. If the surge succeeded and violence is down because of the surge why must we stay according to conditions on the ground?
Watch Mccain undercut his own argument and agree to Obama's plan:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRGl7UjSL_U


Posted by: Anonymous | July 26, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Mccain admits Obama's 16 month withdrawl plan is a pretty good idea.

Mccain flips flops again. Mccain was touting all week how the surge succeeded because of the surge violence in Iraq is down. If the surge succeeded and violence is down because of the surge why must we stay according to conditions on the ground?
Watch Mccain undercut his own argument and agree to Obama's plan:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRGl7UjSL_U

Posted by: Linda | July 26, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Mccain admits Obama's 16 month withdrawl plan is a pretty good idea.

Mccain flips flops again. Mccain was touting all week how the surge succeeded because of the surge violence in Iraq is down. If the surge succeeded and violence is down because of the surge why must we stay according to conditions on the ground?
Watch Mccain undercut his own argument and agree to Obama's plan:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRGl7UjSL_U

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Posted by: b245b2ych2 | July 25, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe how people are missing this story completely. What McCain said immediately after the question was:

Here is the exact transcript:

Couric: Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?

McCain: I don't know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that's just a matter of history. Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn't make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed.

They were out there. They were protecting these sheiks. We had the Anbar awakening. We now have a government that's effective. We have a legal system that's working, although poorly. And we have progress on all fronts, including an incredible measure of security for the people of Iraq. There will still be attacks. Al Qaeda's not defeated. But the progress has been immense. And to not recognize that, and why it happened, and how it happened, I think is really quite a commentary.

Which is both true and accurate.

Couric's producer replace what McCain said with this:
"Senator Obama has indicated by his failure to acknowledge the success of the surge that he would rather lose a war than lose a campaign."
Which was not his response to the question. It was his response 45 seconds earlier to another question.

Posted by: HG | July 25, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't the exalted media selectors of what we perceive asking John McCain how he would upgrade our troop commitment in Afghanistan (while continuing indefinitely in Iraq)...unless by a resumption of the draft?

Posted by: FirstMouse | July 25, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: bitter and clinging | July 25, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dianne 72 pills:
You are so right! How dare Michelle Obama attain a doctorate in juris prudence and then go thinking that she's any better than freaking Miss Manners! Those uppity northern Negroes will be the downfall of the plutocracy yet! Before you know it, they'll be demanding the vote and acting like they're free. I doubt the queen, who still rules us, even knows Africa exists, except for Boers. What's that? This is 2008? Where did 1760 go, when we had it all?

Posted by: md83 | July 24, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dianne 72 pills:
You are so right! How dare Michelle Obama attain a doctorate in juris prudence and then go thinking that she's any better than freaking Miss Manners! Those uppity northern Negroes will be the downfall of the plutocracy yet! Before you know it, they'll be demanding the vote and acting like they're free. I doubt the queen, who still rules us, even knows Africa exists, except for Boers. What's that? This is 2008? Where did 1760 go, when we had it all?

Posted by: md83 | July 24, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama gets the microscope on everything while McCain gets a pass and favorable edits. The media is trying so hard to make this a horserace when it is not.

Posted by: WTF | July 24, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't consider myself naive when it comes to approaching big media with a critical eye and some large grains of salt. But you want to believe that at least the big mainstream news organizations aren't actually blatantly falsifying the news. It's terrifying. What other inconvenient responses did CBS choose to protect us from? This must be the liberal media bias I keep hearing about.

Posted by: Jeff | July 24, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

WHAT "liberal media"? If we did have a funcioning and trustworthy media we wouldn't even be in this occupation of Iraq, nor would we believe that the surge was "working". Pathetic.

Posted by: greg in LA | July 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I am done with CBS. Couric and company should be fired.

Posted by: gocubs58 | July 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"CBS News Senior Vice President Paul Friedman noted the full transcript and video were available online."

Posting the full transcript still does not allow to splice and falsify what McCain said. Friedman deserves to be fired.

Posted by: Ken | July 24, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This should end Katie Couric's career as a network news anchor. It should. But it probably won't. And this ought to be one of the top stories of the week -- and not just on blogs -- because the current MSM narrative is that the media is in the tank for Obama, which is a lie.

McCain's base is the media. Earlier we saw fawning Liz Sidoti of the AP give him donuts with sprinkles and coffee just the way he likes it -- with a little cream and a little sugar. We saw members of the press partying with the McCains at a weekend BBQ and learned that the Politico brought Cindy McCain flowers. We saw the media Swiftboat Gen. Clark over something he didn't say about John McCain. And we've seen the media ignore every gaffe, every mistatement of fact made by the so-called Maverick foreign policy expert. Now his base is covering for him by using trick editing.

Why is Keith Olbermann the only major media figure who seems outraged by this? I think the lack of outrage from the rest of the press is a sign that this kind of deception is more common than we think.

Posted by: rok | July 24, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"But what viewers saw next was not what the Arizona senator said next, an out-of-order sequence that news organizations generally do not allow."

"...generally do not allow." ?? That bothers me as much as what CBS did.


Mr. Kurtz & Mr. Shear (& Ms. Howell), when do Washington Post editors 'allow' that? And, is it disclosed to Post readers in the subject article?

What I thought was probably sloppy work by CBS now appears to be worse, Creative Journalism sanctioned by the MSM.


Posted by: Nor'Easter | July 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

This is just another example of MSM covering for McCain. McCain often refers to the media as his base. Incidents such as, Liz Sidoti of the AP offering McCain donuts with sprinkles and coffee just the way he likes it and CBS' Paul Friedman covering for McCain, just proves that McCain is right. The press is his base.

Posted by: KenM | July 24, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

BITTER AND CLINGING

You're a Repug that won't vote for Obama anyway. You are using the fear and smear tactic. The Repugs are desperate if they have to fling mud this soon.

If your candidate had something to offer other than the same Bush policies, he'd be talking about that instead of just attacking.

BTW- How many McGoo points do you get for your post?

Posted by: KenM | July 24, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Funny how the "mistake" by CBS seemed to work in McCain's favor by covering up his gaffe. I do not believe for one minute this was a mistake by CBS.

I now do not trust CBS and will stop watching their news broadcasts. Please, can we have a press that reports the news and does not actively work for one candidate or the other? The American people ARE watching. We will not let news organizations mislead us.

Posted by: Nicholas | July 24, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

You may as well watch Fox if you watch CBS News...same thing apparently.

Posted by: Cheryl | July 24, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Dianne72, I have no doubt you are right about Mrs Obama's meeting with the Queen. I can't wait to read what Price Phillip says after meeting her. You'd like him, he shares many of your opinions on these damned foreigners.

Posted by: GT in China | July 24, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Everybody in the country had to go out and buy a digital Television because we're no longer broadcasting analog signals. So now CBS is telling me that they're still recording interviews on analog tape? And further, that they're cutting and splicing tape in the editing room, instead of using computers? I don't believe it! Sounds like a big lie to me.

Posted by: John | July 24, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

What makes this particularly egregious is the clip that CBS News was airing around the noon hour yesterday, in which Couric says that McCain said that the surge came before the awakening, but that "the "Obama campaign claims" the awakening took place first.

Either Couric and CBS News didn't know the facts, or were not willing to represent their own statement of fact, deferring the journalist's responsibility for presenting the facts to a political campaign.

In so doing, CBS News ceased being a source for factual news on the story, but shifted determination of facts to the viewers, who now must decide which campaign is representing the facts.

The editors deleted a clip of a statement made that wasn't factual, and ran a cutaway hero shot of McCain with Petraeus. that took some premeditation.

Today we have CBS News' explanation for the error, allowing the McCain campaigns continued parsing of clarification, which is in line with the edited version. What happened? Was the McCain campaign involved in the editing?

Posted by: bg | July 24, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

That is why I no longer watch CBS Evening News. I can't trust them to be accurate. I liked them with Schaffer and Rather but Couric falls short. Whoever cut the piece should be fired, and anyone that knew and let it happen should be fired. Editing the answer to a question that is wrong shows more than bad judgement it shows the network cannot be trusted to provide the truth. It is a disgrace.

Posted by: Scott | July 24, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

CBS is a joke. McCain is clueless about the Middle East and the mainstream media is covering for him. It's pathetic.

Posted by: Chris | July 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The issue here is the editing done by ABC which shoud never have been done. They cannot chop and cut to assist a candidate when he is wrong.

ABC where is your neutrality - or does Freedom Of Speech allow you to make such gross violations?

And people you need to wipe that stupid off your faces. McCain made those comments, they are in the transcript and in the video. Why do you insist on defending when the facts are against him. When you find yourself doing this you need to do some research and get the full story about the Iraq War. A lot of you are in denial about this war - American started a war in Iraq that should never have been started. Secondly we are not at war. We are fighting a war in another country that has nothing to do with us. Bring your troops home so we get back to repairing America.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

This is simply astonishing. They replaced McCain's false statements revealing (again) his lack of depth of understanding with an answer to a completely different question. That is completely unethical. People need to be fired. I wonder if the McCain campaign requested it.

Posted by: Jeremy | July 24, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse


So much for the fantasy that the media are in the tank for Obama. It's totally the opposite. They edit interviews when McCain gives wrong (embarrassingly wrong) answers! But thanks for the history lesson Magoo.

Oh, and the sheik McCain was boasting about was assassinated last year.

Posted by: Shawn | July 24, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Isn't the real issue the media editing the truth? This is a campaign for the President of the United States. This is the alleged most powerful position in the free world. Don't the people have the right to view the answer in an unedited format. Here it is worse than that. The answer was changed completely.

When I was a child, it was the favorite tactic of TV to play how a news story in Russia was played. Typically, the newsreader gave a totally phoney version of events. Americans were then supposed to believe we were superior because our press told us the truth. Have we become like Communist Russia in the height of the Cold War. Out TV networks don't report the truth. The TV anchor is a journalist; the anchor is a reader.

When Tom Brokaw was asked about the failures of the networks to get it right on the propaganda run up to the invasion of Iraq, he passed it off that it wasn't the business of the networks to challenge the President. If the press doesn't report the truth or edits the truth for some other purpose, this isn't the news. It isn't journalism. It is paid propaganda. Which is okay, if they label their news programs as such so people would know they are unreliable.

Posted by: krausf | July 24, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

By not forthrightly condemning them, this lame Washington Post story compounds the disgraceful actions of CBS. CBS covered up a serious blunder by John McCain. It edited out his mistaken assertions about the Sunni Awakening and hid from the public his incompetence and his weak grasp of even the basic facts of recent Iraqi history.

The Washington Post writers should have been clear about the damage this kind of misstep by CBS inflicts on the public. How can we have an informed electorate if the media repeatedly confuses and covers up for one candidate.

Some one at CBS should be fired. Katie Couric should be denounced. And the Washington Post media watchdogs should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: deedee | July 24, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

The MSM is decidedly pro-GOP or at least easy on the critique on the GOP. It has been obvious ever since 9/11. Hopefully something happens at CBS that shows they are ready to stop propagandizing for the Right. But I doubt it. Katie Couric has no business being on a news program. Period.

Posted by: F&B | July 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

To Earl C; WELL SAID!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Why did the WPost show the edited version and not the real version of the interview?
I thought the point of this article was about how the news on TV deleted the actual comments and substituted McCain's answers from another question instead.

Huummmm, seems like a concerted effort by alot of the media to keep McCain afloat by not airing his confusion, lies and ineptitude.

Posted by: Muppet | July 24, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

These pathetic racism accustations are getting pretty old. It seems that Obama has written his own version of 'Mein Kampf'; now if only more people would read it, they would understand WHY Obama FELT at home for 20 years in a racist church. The problem with Obama's race is that you're not allowed to dislike him simply because you don't like him. From my point of view, irrespective of skin color, I find Obama boring and platitudinous, I dislike and distrust his friends, I find appalling his lack of practical experience, and I disagree with him from top to bottom when it comes to his political positions. He is, to me, an utterly undesirable candidate. However, in the world of identity politics, all of this is clearly a front for my unspoken racism. It is impossible for those on the Left to believe that, if someone is in a politically correct minority, he can be disliked for reasons other than his minority status.

+++++++
36mafia,

Your post below is racist. Racists like yourself rarely know they are racist, in fact they almost never do. That's of course part of what makes you a racist. You're the prototypical Republican.

Posted by: BITTER AND CLINGING | July 24, 2008 7:04 AM | Report abuse

36mafia,

Your post below is racist. Racists like yourself rarely know they are racist, in fact they almost never do. That's of course part of what makes you a racist. You're the prototypical Republican.


"The fact is that most of pro Obama people here are black!

Not racist by the way.

Posted by: 36mafia | July 24, 2008 1:13 AM"

Posted by: jj cornish | July 24, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

36mafia,

Your post below is racist. Racists like yourself rarely know they are racist, in fact they almost never do. That's of course part of what makes you a racist. You're the prototypical Republican.


"The fact is that most of pro Obama people here are black!

Not racist by the way.

Posted by: 36mafia | July 24, 2008 1:13 AM"

Posted by: jj cornish | July 24, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

36mafia,

Your post below is racist. Racists like yourself rarely know they are racist, in fact they almost never do. That's of course part of what makes you a racist. You're the prototypical Republican.


"The fact is that most of pro Obama people here are black!

Not racist by the way.

Posted by: 36mafia | July 24, 2008 1:13 AM"

Posted by: jj cornish | July 24, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Katie Couric is iconic of everything wrong with American journalism.

She's a stain on the industry.

Couric, Judy Miller, Bill O'Reilly... these people are the reason our Democracy is failing.

Thomas Jefferson knew the importance of real news media.

Couric apparently doesn't care... her career evidently comes first. Kissing John McCain's rear end comes first.

Fire her, CBS. Now.

Posted by: jj cornish | July 24, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

LaughingMan,

Innocent mistakes? No.

McCain reversed cause and effect in order to lie about the surge, and to lie to America about Iraq.

CBS cut out the error and replaced it with the answer to another question. That's a huge faux pas in the news industry.

This was nothing more than propaganda. McCain probably promised access if CBS did him the favor.

These are not innocent mistakes. This is the way the GOP and media work at this point. Everyone knows it, and everyone sees the insincerity plastered all over McCain and Couric whenever they speak.

Posted by: jj cornish | July 24, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

..and it is somewhat pathetic that two correspondents aren't even brave enough to make any judgements or comments on the fact that another media network CUT OUT ONE ANSWER and SUBSTITUTED ANOTHER ANSWER that erased a serious foreign policy error from someone running for the most powerful job in the world... on his foreign policy experience.

If you can't come out and say "this is wrong" then that's just sad.

Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Katie Couric's head on a platter. She's gone.

Public apology and shame for CBS.

CBS are now officially clownshow Republican shills.

Posted by: jj cornish | July 24, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Paulin (Alaska Gov.) or Meg Whitman (eBay co-founder) would be the best picks for McCain to maximize his chances of winning. These picks should put him over 55% in the November final vote, and would be good for the country as they are well qualified. These picks would scare liberals and their liberal media. Their man Obama would go down in polls nationally. A substantial number of Hillary voters from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, New Hampshire, and Virginia voters would permanently move to McCain.

Posted by: FightLiberalMediaBias | July 24, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Our politicians have been reduced to catching each others are making innocent mistakes. What a waste of energy and brain power. Unfortunately, all are losers.

Posted by: Laughing Man | July 24, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Our politicians have been reduced to catching each others are making innocent mistakes. What a wasted of energy and brain power. All losers.

Posted by: Laughing Man | July 24, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

>>The fact is that most of pro Obama people >>here are black!

>>Not racist by the way.

Aha
ha
haaahahaaahaaahaaahaa nhaaha
Classic unintentional comedy gold.

Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Dear What Would Jesus Kill,

You forgot "sellout."

Posted by: oh, and | July 24, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Glad I'm not a paid McCain blogger tonight!!!

Posted by: kravitz | July 24, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

The fact is that most of pro Obama people here are black!

Not racist by the way.

Posted by: 36mafia | July 24, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

NYT reports, "Senator Barack Obama's campaign will spend $5 million on advertisements during NBC's coverage of the Summer Olympic Games next month, an NBC spokeswoman confirmed on Wednesday."

This confirms who he is. He wrote a letter to President Bush urging him to boycott the Olympic. Now he wants to sell his images by betting $5M.

He is the Material Man, one of the media constructs.

Posted by: imagination | July 24, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Dianne72, not only are you racist, but you're an idiot!!!!!!! What does your racist, false, statement about Sen. Obama's wife's have anything to do with the subject of this article? Oh, nevermind, I forgot that you GOP trolls are paid to deflect and distract. Hey beeyatch, you suck at it! McInsane should demand that you refund your paycheck, without regard to whether you get kicked out of your trailer or not!!! You racist idiot!

Posted by: DRS | July 24, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

"Earl C, I have no use for McCain the politician either, but you definitely should not attack his war record. He didn't spend five years "sitting in a box," he spent five years being tortured in a POW camp. The GOP thugs made tremendous hay out of gutter attacks on Kerry's war record. Please don't emulate them in attacking McCain's.

Posted by: Max Black | July 23, 2008 11:40 PM


You may be correct to criticize my choice of words. However, I was not there to verify John McCain's torture at the hands of the Vietcong. I do know that many of our own soldiers killed and wounded other American soldiers (primarily officers) in events called "fragging." I also know that Eugene "Red" McDaniel was a true American hero who was also a prisoner of war for a long time. I knew him and his family.

I mean no disrespect for John McCain. However, he is showing his true colors in this presidential contest. He has forgotten why he fought for this country. Barack didn't have to fight because of the all-volunteer force that we now have. Instead, to choose to fight in the worst areas of Chicago to try to bring about change. However, Barack understands the sacrifice that our men and women in uniform are making every day and why they do it. He also reminds us why it so important that a president get it right when we send our troops into harms way. From McCain's vantage point, he was never in face-to-face combat as far as I know. This does mean something when it comes to fighting wars.

Please forgive me, Max, if I stooped too low to make a point. I do agree with Wesley Clark that McCain's service record is not a qualification to be President of the United States. The fact that the Republicans jumped all over Wesley on this issue points out how little they know about the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution is very clear.

Posted by: Earl C | July 24, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget, Katie Couric is the boss... lay the blame where it belongs. "Katie Couric is anchor and managing editor of the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, 60 Minutes correspondent and anchors CBS News primetime specials.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/06/eveningnews/bios/main1781520.shtml

She decides what and how to present what she does.
She belongs on a womans gossip show, not anything to do with 'news'.

Posted by: Jason | July 24, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

I am experienced in losing wars, experienced in being an incompetent pilot, experienced in being captured, experienced for committing adultery, experienced for violating military code of conduct for having numerous sexual relations with subordinates, a crime, experienced with collaborating with the enemy providing them with military plans and targets and making dozens of Anti-American videotapes, experienced in killing 168 US sailors on the USS Forrestal, experienced in drug use and being a drunk partying, experienced gold digging, experienced in graduating 894 out of 899, experienced war criminal dropping bombs on innocent women and children, experienced in hiding my disgusting treasonous military records, experienced in hiring hundreds of Corporate and Foreign lobbyists to run my campaign, experienced in daddy giving me medals I did not deserve. I am experienced in Farting, too.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal Terrorist McCorrupt?

Posted by: Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal McCorrupt | July 23, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

No Illegal Invasions means No Splurge, No Dead Soldiers, Trillions Saved,

Old Fart War Criminal voted for the Illegal Invasions, Obama didn't.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal Terrorist McCorrupt?

What Would Jesus Kill?

Posted by: What Would Jesus Kill? | July 23, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

1. Why would a "war hero" refuse to release his Complete Military Records? What is he hiding? Kerry signed the Form 180 waiver and released all of his records. Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Make it a Hundred Traitor War Criminal McBush refuses to do so. Why?
2. He received numerous demerits at the US Naval Acadamy and graduated 894 out of 899. His 4 star Admiral daddy pulled strings to get him into the Academy. Daddy helped him become a pilot in the Navy despite his despicable record of alcoholism, drug use and womanizing at the academy.
3. He admitted to collaborating with the enemy providing them with military targets, operations and plans.
4. He killed 168 US sailors on the USS Forrestal being a hotdog idiot, and his 4 star Admiral daddy promptly
transferred him to another ship
5. He admitted to being a War Criminal on 60 Minutes, 1997, CBS News,for bombing innocent women and children
6. Why did the Vietnamese give him the codename Songbird?
7. He made dozens of Anti-American videos for the enemy denouncing America.
8. Why did the Vietnamese erect a bust in his honor?
9. All Republicans in Congress voted to release government records of POW/MIA on Vietnam, only 1 person blocked it, Old Fart Songbird Traitor McBush. Why did he want those records sealed?
10. Wouldn't the Navy wash his records? His father and grandfather were both 4 star admirals in the Navy.
11. How did he receive medals which required 2 eyewitnesses when there were none?
12. How did he get 28 medals in less than 20 hours of combat? Did his 4 star admiral daddy give him medals he did not deserve? Some grunts fighting on the ground for 7000 hours received no medals
13. He told his captors he was the son of a 4 star Admiral who was the head of Pacific Military Operations to receive special preferential treatment and medical care, violating Military Code of Conduct.
14. There is no evidence he was tortured
15. There is no evidence his plane was shotdown. He was an incompetent pilot having crashed 4 other Naval planes previously.
16. He also violated military uniform code of conduct by having numerous sexual relations with subordinates, a crime.
17. He was not eligible to be released as a POW based on military protocol, the oldest POW is released first.
18. Daddy helped get him jobs in DC after he returned.
19. Immediately, upon returning he started having sexual affairs while still married with 2 kids, gold digging until he snagged rich Cindy whose daddy owned the 2nd largest Budweiser distributorship.
20. Why does he want to stay in Iraq forever? Research his Lobbyists and their clients, especially, Rick Davis and Charle Black.
21. Some Vietnam Vets believe he is the Manchurian Candidate, do some research on that.


Google these to learn more

McCain Songbird
McCain Adultery
McCain Lobbyists
McCain Charlie Black
McCain USS Forrestal
McCain Rick Davis
McCain Temper
McCain Infidelity
McCain Phil Gramm
McCain Enron Loophole
McCain Arizona Mob
McCain Kosovo Muslims
McCain Fortune
McCain Traitor
McCain Flip Flops
McCain Torturers' Lobby
McCain Manchurian

If Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor McCorrupt wins, his administration will be the most corrupt in history.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal Terrorist McCorrupt?
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What Would Jesus Kill?

Posted by: Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal Ter | July 23, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Earl C, I have no use for McCain the politician either, but you definitely should not attack his war record. He didn't spend five years "sitting in a box," he spent five years being tortured in a POW camp. The GOP thugs made tremendous hay out of gutter attacks on Kerry's war record. Please don't emulate them in attacking McCain's.

Posted by: Max Black | July 23, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

"Good breeding"?! Diane72, commenting on someone else's "breeding" is quite a no-no, demonstrating your own boorishness more than anything else. Nonetheless, I gather that Michelle's years at Princeton University, Harvard Law School, working as an attorney at Sidley & Austin (one of the nation's most elite law firms), as well as her current position as a Vice President at the University of Chicago Hospitals, do not meet your standards for proper grooming. Let me assure you, Diane, I have met Ms. Obama and even seen her eat. She was utterly charming, and to your point, even able to carry on a conversation while chewing with her mouth closed. I hope you and your delicate sensibilities can rest easy now.

Posted by: jdwjd93 | July 23, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I know how to win wars, because I graduated at the bottom of my class, crashed 5 naval planes, killed 168 US Sailors on the USS Forrestal, got easily captured, couldn't escape, collaborated with the enemy, told them daddy was head of Pacific Ops, daddy gave me a bunch of medal that I didn't deserve, yep, I can win wars in my dreams after getting some with all my sex partners.

I can win wars, I dropped bombs on innocent women and children like all Coward Patriot Terrorist War Criminals, I can win wars because my hundreds of Corporate and Foreign Government Lobbyists will tell me which Military Industrial Company to spend billions of tax dollars with, that why I opposed the Boeing Air Force tanker deal, Rick Davis told me to support EADS. If the White House War Criminal Terrorist didn't start his Illegal Invasions, I wouldn't have voted for the Splurge and America would not have wasted Trillions. I know how to win wars with women. I got on top of every women I ever did. Too bad, I am not smart, graduating 894 out of 899, Class 1958, US Naval Academy, daddy pulled strings to get me in, former Astronaut Bruce McCandless graduated #2, he is smart, not me.
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I refuse to release my Military Records because of my despicable treasonous and traitorous conduct in the military. I am an admitted war criminal coward on 60 Minutes, CBS News, 1997, for bombing innocent women and children. I crashed my plane because I was an incompetent pilot and had crashed 4 previous Naval planes. I was not shotdown. I was given special treatment and was never tortured after I told my captors my daddy was a 4 star Admiral and head of the Military's Pacific Operations. My Vietnamese friends gave me the codename Songbird. I became a traitor to my country after I disclosed to the enemy all my knowledge about bombing targets and military plans. I made dozens of anti-American propaganda tapes for the enemy so they would provide me special treatment and medical care. I killed 168 US sailors on the USS Forrestal because I was being a hotdog and ignited the worst friendly fire on a US Naval ship in history. I became a pilot with my admiral daddy's influence even though I graduated 894 out of 899 and was an extremely poor student. I was an incompetent pilot, crashing 5 Naval planes. I received medals which the Navy required 2 eyewitnesses when there were none. I did not deserve the 28 medals I received after less than 20 hours of combat, but daddy got the medals for me. I committed adultery on both of my wives. I had multiple sexual relations with subordinates while in the military violating military code of conduct, a crime. I am a well known flip flopper on numerous issues because I will do anything for power. I am easily manipulated by my lobbyist friends, that's why they love me. I am a liar, adulterer, traitor, war criminal, serial killer and mass murderer. Basically, I am a typical Coward Killer War Criminal. Anyone voting for me will be enabling a Killer Murderer War Criminal just like the Killer War Criminal Terrorist in the White House now.

Posted by: Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal McCorrupt | July 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Apparently CBS disabled comments on its own story of the "error," so maybe someone from Black Rock will see...nah, what am I saying, they don't care. But the rest of us do. CBS committed such a fundamental violation of journalistic ethics that it should be tanked right down with Fox News as just another propaganda outlet. No way should anything CBS News ever be considered a reliable source for anything anymore, especially if it has anything to do with politics.

Fearless prediction: If Obama wins the presidency, expect a whole new attitude from CBS. Suddenly they will turn into the All-"Obama Expose" News Network, vying with Fox to see who can broadcast the most groundless, scurrilous accusations and allegations against Obama and everyone connected to his presidency.

And the Post will be right there beside them, after eight years spent in polishing Bush's backside.

Posted by: Max Black | July 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Using the Dow Jones industrial average as the benchmark, Stock Analysis shows a $10,000 investment compounded during Democratic presidencies since 1901 would be worth $279,705 after 48 years. The same $10,000 investment during 56 Republican years would have been worth just $78,699.

Since the War Criminal took office in 2001

Gas prices have gone from $1.46 to $ 4.11 currently, an annualized 14.8% increase.

Oil prices have gone from $29.79 to $129.85 currently, an annualized 21.7% increase.

The S&P 500 has gone from 1343 to 1260 currently, an annualized 0.99% decrease.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal McCorrupt?
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What Would Jesus Kill?

Posted by: Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal McC | July 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

John McCain knows how to win wars.

He may not know much about them or where they are exactly, but no matter! He knows how to win!

Hillary had ABC, McCain has CBS. Life is indeed good.

Posted by: Susan | July 23, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

The media is in the tank for McCain. No matter what this war monger does, no matter how much he emulates George Bush on everything from the war to the economy, they will lick his boot every way of the trip. Just take a look at the shameful, degenerate WAPO editorial board.

Posted by: David | July 23, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

"You all criticizing John McCain are a bunch of jerks. Yes, he forgot a few details about when the surge began and what Sheikh got killed when. So what? Big deal!! He served our country with honor. We all owe a debt to those that came before and they deserve to be treated with respect. He's old and his memory isn't terrific - that is just a fact of life. If you're lucky, you'll be there too someday.

He still remembers the important things, like if he gets to breakfast early, there are still bananas, and then he can get the good table in the bingo room, you know, the one close to the front where you can hear the numbers.

Posted by: renu1 | July 23, 2008 9:15 PM


Where were you when they were throwing mud at John Kerry, a true hero of the Vietnam War? Fortunately for John, he got to sit it out in a box and got to ignore all the fuss at home. John Kerry exerted some of the greatest leadership ever by tackling the powers in Washington with an inconvenient truth. I was serving my country in the military then and I distinctly remember that General Westmoreland was eventually disgraced for the false reporting that he was doing. Then Kerry had to fight the war again against those who never fought by his side and who tried to render his service as dishonest and of no consequence.

You might call this the tale of the two Johns. Now I ask, which one is best fit to be President? The one who faced the enemy face to face and fought to save his men or the one who was shot down and got to sit out the rest of the war until he was released? Or the President we actually got who was AWOL in the National Guard? Mind you, I understand that it was no picnic sitting in a POW camp. But his fighting days were over.

If those of you holding John McCain up as your hero did nothing to repudiate the character assassination of John Kerry, another decorated war veteran, then you have nothing relevant to say. You are letting your party stand ahead of your patriotism. You belong in the German SS where they undertstood such allegiance.

Posted by: Earl C | July 23, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. McCain,

Okay, by your definition, the surge worked. Now are you happy.

The problem is the definition. You seem to define everything in military terms. The surge was a military counter-insurgency. The TACTICAL result was a decrease in violence, also a military result.

But the STRATEGIC purpose of the surge was not defined in military terms, but in political ones.

A. It was expected that it would buy time for the Iragi government to reach ethnic and sectarian reconciliation. I think I heard that the Kurds walked out of parliament the other day, dooming the chances of provincial elections this year. Great political results, right?

B. There was to be agreement on the distribution of oil revenues. No such law has been passed. I only hear that progress is being made. I assume progress will continue to be made for years to come.

C. The extra troops were to help stabilize the Iragi police and military. They still seem pretty fragile and show no real signs of having been able to pull off even a modest operation without back up. More success?

D. etc. There were a dozen or more such goals or purposes for the surge. So far I have not heard that any of them have actually been fully implemented.

When I was in business, we often joking asked if a project was merely done or done-done. I am not sure that any of those purposes for the surge meet even the lowest criteria of being done. Only if the goal of the surge is viewed in mere military terms can any rational person say that it was a success. But yes, in terms of reducing violence, it did succeeed. And we spent millions on that. Hurray!

And victory, what does that look like? It is not many years since huge armies stood on opposite sides of the Iran-Iraq border, including hundreds of thousands of children as young as 10 or 12, ruthlessly shooting each other. It is safe to assume that the same could hold true on the boundaries between the various ethnic groups. A difference of 4, 6 or 10 years will not change that.

Besides, we managed to protect the Kurds for years with the no-fly zones, without troops on the ground. I suspect we could do the same for the Arab Sunnis with a little help from the Saudis (also Sunnis) right across another border. And I suspect Kuwait or one of the other small Gulf States would be glad to let us base planes and rapid response forces there for all kinds of reasons. Let's get creative folks.

A perpetual crisis which we can manage is probably the best we can do in the victory department. I'll settle for that.

We "won" the Cold War. Do the current conditions in Russia look anything like what we might have wished? Not really. These are sovreign countries and will eventually do as they please, no matter how long we stay. Time to get out and let the chips fall as they may, with a modest backup plan in the event of chaos.

Posted by: Lee in FL | July 23, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

The editing didn't change the fact that McCain really didn't have a grasp of the events that lead up to the surge. The plain truth is that McCain doesn't understand the complexities or even the geography of the wars he touts as his strongest qualification for president.

Posted by: Kevin Morgan | July 23, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I refuse to release my Military Records because of my despicable treasonous and traitorous conduct in the military. I am an admitted war criminal coward on 60 Minutes, CBS News, 1997, for bombing innocent women and children. I crashed my plane because I was an incompetent pilot and had crashed 4 previous Naval planes. I was not shotdown. I was given special treatment and was never tortured after I told my captors my daddy was a 4 star Admiral and head of the Military's Pacific Operations. My Vietnamese friends gave me the codename Songbird. I became a traitor to my country after I disclosed to the enemy all my knowledge about bombing targets and military plans. I made dozens of anti-American propaganda tapes for the enemy so they would provide me special treatment and medical care. I killed 168 US sailors on the USS Forrestal because I was being a hotdog and ignited the worst friendly fire on a US Naval ship in history. I became a pilot with my admiral daddy's influence even though I graduated 894 out of 899 and was an extremely poor student. I was an incompetent pilot, crashing 5 Naval planes. I received medals which the Navy required 2 eyewitnesses when there were none. I did not deserve the 28 medals I received after less than 20 hours of combat, but daddy got the medals for me. I committed adultery on both of my wives. I had multiple sexual relations with subordinates while in the military violating military code of conduct, a crime. I am a well known flip flopper on numerous issues because I will do anything for power. I am easily manipulated by my lobbyist friends, that's why they love me. I am a liar, adulterer, traitor, war criminal, serial killer and mass murderer. Basically, I am a typical Coward Killer War Criminal. Anyone voting for me will be enabling a Killer Murderer War Criminal just like the Killer War Criminal Terrorist in the White House now.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal Terrorist McCorrupt? I just told you why.
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What Would Jesus Kill?

Posted by: Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal Terrorist M | July 23, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Using the Dow Jones industrial average as the benchmark, Stock Analysis shows a $10,000 investment compounded during Democratic presidencies since 1901 would be worth $279,705 after 48 years. The same $10,000 investment during 56 Republican years would have been worth just $78,699.

Since the Born Again Faith Based Pro Life Mass Murderer Serial Killer in Chief War Criminal Terrorist took office in 2001

Gas prices have gone from $1.46 to $ 4.11 currently, an annualized 14.8% increase.

Oil prices have gone from $29.79 to $129.85 currently, an annualized 21.7% increase.

The S&P 500 has gone from 1343 to 1260 currently, an annualized 0.99% decrease.

Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal McCorrupt?
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What Would Jesus Kill?

Posted by: Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal McCorrupt? | July 23, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

11 reasons America's a new socialist economy
How free market ideology backfired, sabotaging capitalistic democracy
By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
Last update: 11:47 a.m. EDT July 22, 2008
ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Welcome to the conservative's worst nightmare: The law of unintended consequences. Why? Nobody wants to admit it, folks, but the conservatives' grand ideology is backfiring, actually turning the world's greatest capitalistic democracy into the world's newest socialist economy.
A little history: The core principles of conservative economic ideology are grounded in Nobel economist Milton Friedman's 1962 classic "Capitalism and Freedom." Too late to stop President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, those principles became the battle cries energizing conservatives since Reagan: Unrestricted free markets, free enterprise and free trade; deregulation, privatization and globalization; trickle-down economics and trickle-up wealth to an elite plutocracy destined to rule the new American capitalist utopia.
So what happened? Are you guys nuts? Hey, I'm talking to all you blind Beltway politicians (in both parties) ... plus the Old Boys Club running Wall Street (into the ground) ... plus all you fat-cat CEOs (with megamillion parachutes) ... and all your buddies scamming everybody else to get on the Forbes 400. You are proof of Lord Acton's warning: "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
It's backfiring! You folks turned our America from a great capitalistic democracy into a meddling socialist economy. Still you don't get it. You're acting like teen addicts tripping on an overdose of "greed-is-good" testosterone while your caricature of conservative economics would at best make a one-line joke on Jay Leno.
Here are 11 reasons your manipulations are sabotaging the great principles of leaders like Friedman and Reagan:
1. Dumber than a fifth grader with cognitive dissonance
Kids know what it means. They know most adults today can't see past the end of their noses. Liberals tune out candidate McBush for being lost in the past. Conservatives can't hear Obama without seeing that turban.
Cognitive dissonance simply means most brains cannot see past their own narrow ideologies. They dismiss any data that contradicts their old ideologies. Whether you're a conservative Republican or liberal Democrat, you only hear what you already know is "true." All else is tuned out.
2. Where did all the leaders go with their moral character?
Friedman's economics requires leaders of moral character. Did it run into Lord Acton's warning: "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely?" Former Ford and Chrysler CEO Lee Iacocca said yes in "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?"
Friedman's great conservative principles have been commandeered by myopic ideologues whose idea of leadership is balancing the demands of self-interest lobbyists with the need for campaign donations. Unfortunately, a new "change" president won't be enough; there are 537 elected officials in Washington controlled by 42,000 special interest lobbyists.
3. Fed and U.S. Treasury adopted Enron accounting tricks
Bad news: Enron failed several years ago because of its off-balance-sheet accounting scam. The Fed's doing the same thing: Dumping Bear's $30 billion liabilities onto the taxpayer's "balance sheet." Next Treasury proposes adding $5.3 trillion more from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Unfortunately clever accounting tricks by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke aren't going to fool foreign lenders analyzing America's creditworthiness. Worse-case scenario: U.S. Treasury bills with less than a triple-A rating.
With 90 banks on the brink and already too many bail-outs, our so-called leaders are running out of magic bullets. So now the taxpayer's "balance sheet" has become the all-purpose "dumping ground" and it's overcrowding fast as our leaders raise the white flag of socialism.
4. Deregulation creating new socialist housing system
Back in 1999 a Democratic president and Republican Congress were in love with a fantasy called the "new economics." Enthusiastic lobbyists invented the brilliant idea of dismantling the wall between commercial and investment banking: They killed the Glass-Steagall Act that was keeping the sleazy hands of short-term hustlers out of the pockets of long-term lenders.
Flash forward: We lost 85-year-old Bear Sterns and $32 billion IndyMac. Lehman's iffy. And 90 banks. With the virtual takeover of Freddie and Fanny, Wall Street's grand experiment with free-market ideology is backfiring, having socialized the housing market. They have nobody to blame but their self-centered greed.
5. Trade deficits outsourced more of America's wealth than jobs
One look at Forbes lists of fat cats and you know the 21st Century doesn't just belong to Asia, it belongs to everyone but America. Why? Once again, remember Warren Buffett's famous "Farmer's Story" in Fortune: "We were taught in Economics 101 that countries could not for long sustain large, ever-growing trade deficits ... our country has been behaving like an extraordinarily rich family that possesses an immense farm. In order to consume 4% more than they produce -- that's the trade deficit -- we have, day by day, been both selling pieces of the farm and increasing the mortgage on what we still own."
Friedman was right: Congressional spending is the biggest cause of inflation, and, wow, those conservatives sure did love blank-check deficit spending the past eight years!
6. Banking system in meltdown, minting penny stocks
The Friedman conservatives apparently understand Joseph Schumpeter's "creative destruction." Yet, our free-market ideologues can't seem to accept that America is now on the "destructive" downside leg of the cycle, in the economy, markets, trade, politics and, yes, sadly, even with their conservative ideology.
You don't have to be smarter than a fifth grader to figure out that our leaders are clueless about the reality of our crumbling banking system, with many banks trading as penny stocks, while the Fed still panders to conservative pre-election politics rather than getting serious about inflation.
7. Ideologues preach savings, but still push spending
A core principle of conservatism is frugality, saving for the future. Grandparents raised me, struggled during the Depression, passed on strong ideals.
Somewhere over the past generation conservatives forget frugality. This distortion peaked in 2003 when consumers were told to spend, not sacrifice, and fuel the economy even as government spent excessively on war. That was a clear breach of every conservative leader's position in earlier wars.
As a result, in one brief generation, as the power of conservative ideologues grew, America's savings rate dropped precipitously from 11% in 1980 to less than zero today.
8. Warning, the market's under 2000 peak, losing money
Imagine you're on Jeff Foxworthy's fabulous show competing to see if you really are smarter than a fifth grader. Question: "If you put $10,000 in the market in March of 2000 when the Dow peaked at 11,722, how much money would you have today if the market's 10% under 11,722?" So you guess $9,000.
But then two fifth graders raise their hands: One asks if the CPI inflation rate should be considered? If so, maybe $5,000 is closer to the right answer. The other kid wants to know if you're buying stuff in Chicago or Singapore.
The truth is, the best answer for most adults is: "You've lost a hell of a lot of money in the market under the grand conservative ideology the past eight years."
9. Inflation and dollars: Is Zimbabwe the new model for the U.S.?
The Los Angeles Times ran a photo of a Zimbabwe $500 million bank note, worth $20 at noon, less at dinner. Why? Inflation's there is running 32 million (yes million!) percent annually. The German company printing their banknotes finally cut them off.
Things may be worse in America, psychologically. Our ideological obsession with "growth" is not working because there is too much collateral damage, namely inflation. Our dollar has lost substantial value to the euro because our dysfunctional leaders are convinced that a trade policy funded by debt makes sense.
Now we owe China $1.3 trillion, sovereign funds want equity not cheap dollar IOUs, and still our clueless Treasury and the Fed continue debasing our currency, printing money like Zimbabwe.
10. Free-market health care failing 47,000,000 Americans
Big Pharma loves free-market conservatism and no-compete Medicare drug programs. Nobody else is happy. Taxpayers get stuck with the bill.
"The Coming Generational Storm" tells us that without massive reforms and big lifestyle changes for taxpayers (especially retirees), within a couple short decades America's entitlement programs will eat up the entire federal budget. Medicare is the biggest cost item in your future, over $50 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
Conservative ideologues naively believe the answer is more pay-out-of-pocket insurance plans, even with 47 million already uninsured because they can't pay. Here as in so many areas of our economy, free-market junkies really are suffering a severe case of cognitive dissonance, as blind to the facts about the uninsured as they are to their outdated free-market fantasies.
11. Conservative free-market policies inflated oil 300%!
Yep, oil inflated 300% in eight short years under the "leadership of two oil men." But, you can't blame them. We put the foxes in the henhouse, knowing full well "real" oil men love digging holes on the supply side, supporting ethanol subsidies and blaming speculators -- it's in their genes! Talk about cognitive dissonance; real oil men thrive on cowboy images of Marlboro Men in Hummers, Navigators and F-150 trucks.
Net result? Another perfect example of "creative destruction" in action as conservative ideology meets "law of unintended consequences," driving GM, the symbol of America capitalism, closer to bankruptcy ... while turning America into a socialist economy. End of Story


Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal McCorrupt?
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What Would Jesus Kill?

Posted by: Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird War Criminal McCorrupt? | July 23, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

It seems as if CBS has egg on its face again. The Dan Rather mess regarding the service of Bush in the National Guard drew quite a rush of attention from similar-type people who pushed hard to plaster John Kerry's war record. Unfortunately, this time CBS has really screwed up. It is one thing to edit an interview, it is another to transpose comments between questions. Hopefully, some heads will roll at CBS over this fiasco.

I keep thinking about today and the fact that John McCain promised that once he brings the troops back home from Iraq, they will never go back again. I was hoping to see the press take him to task on this, but have not heard much about it. I guess he never plans to bring the troops home. Barack's logical and cautious approach is in keeping with intelligent thought regarding tough situations which have been brought about by mule-headed idealogues.

I prefer to have as President someone who can think logically, analyze situations, and present coherent options and solutions than a person who spews forth bravado, like McCain, with no earthly idea what he is talking about. Obama is a real threat to those who have no functioning brain, but prefer to follow a strict, narrowly defined message. These people would have been easily swayed by Hitler. In fact, many upright Christians were indeed swayed by Hilter's style of security.

It is a testimony to the strength of our Constitution that the Bushies have not toppled our government with their trampling all over the Consitution and our system of laws. Yes, the right still harps on Clinton and his sexual problems. But Clinton's sexual problems were neither a cause for impeachment nor an infringement of the Constitution. However, the willful trampling on the rights of citizens, the willful violation of various laws, and the approved torture of our prisoners are acts of disrespect for our Constitutional form of government. Yes, there are those who would sell their souls to have security, but our brave men and women in uniform over the centuries have given their lives in support of our Constitution and our freedoms - freedoms that many "superpatriots" among us would apparently give up for security.

Obama will make an excellent Commander-in-Chief. He proved it when he said yesterday that the decisions would be his after obtaining the advice of the generals and so forth. This is the way the Constitution sets it out. If the generals make the calls regarding policy matters, then we have a military, or police, state. George Bush relinquished his right to be considered our Commander-in-Chief when he yielded his power to Gen. Petraeus. He has consistently taken shelter behind his generals. What a leader! McCain will be no better. He has said so in so many words.

Regarding Obama's trip to the Middle East - Obama never needed to go there before the election. However, he has performed splendidly. He can receive detailed briefings here and figure out what is happening. It is odd that the same people who champion that it is not appropriate to talk to certain foreign leaders chastise Obama for not talking to certain foreign leaders.

Listen to Obama very carefully, you who would try to demean this gentleman who has the sense to get in out of the rain. Unfortunately, those who berate Obama are incapable of intelligent thought. I know this because of the arguments that they use to try to tear him down. Instead of presenting a compelling case for their own programs, they only attack Obama.

One final word about unity. I see all these bumper stickers about "United we stand." How can our country be united when the politics of the right is solely geared to a scorched-earth approach to the opposition? How in God's good name can people work together following the political campaigns that are waged by the people on the right? Hillary got in trouble when she stooped to the same tactics. In fact, Obama's campaign suffered when he went off message and tried to conduct a little street fight with Hillary. Decent people do not like this. Hopefully, they will rise up in great numbers in November and let their voices be heard. Folks, there is a lot at stake in this election. We have to get our financial, political, and civil houses back in order. The party of little government and no taxes has just about parked us in a ditch for good. What we have is an enormous debt, a broken infrastructure, and a stagnant economy. We have an administration that believes that it is better to give tax breaks to the super wealthy by not taxing capital gains and estates so tnat they can deny the working poor a decent minimum wage and health care. We have an administration that believes that opposition to their policies is unpatriotic in a country where freedom of speech is a consitutional right. Wow, have things really gotten turned upside down! It is sad, sad, sad!

As for me, I prefer a fresh face with brilliant ideas like those of Obama to a man stuck in a POW camp in the 1960s, who has shown no real ability to assert leadership in all of his time in Congress. Obama may be inexperienced in the eyes of many, but he has the greatest potential of any candidate in the race. McCain's experience obviously has not manifested itself in his knowledge of the facts. I hear Obama, and then I listen to McCain try to tell me things that Obama never said. And we call this being truthful? Obama is bending over backwards to be cordial to McCain, McCain can only throw mud and slander in return. What type of civility is this?

I know the course that America needs. A continuation of the last 8 years is not it.

Posted by: Earl C | July 23, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72 is exaggerating her IQ.

Posted by: tom | July 23, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Somehow, despite all the propping up he gets from the MSM, McCain still manages to come off badly.

Posted by: Patrick | July 23, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

See what these Republicans have done? They yell "liberal media" until the media eventually works in their favor rather than trying to report straight facts as they are supposed to. Republicans now have complete control of the media because the media is to weak to fight back.

Posted by: Don | July 23, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72, remember you'll be calling Mrs. Obama "the First Lady" this time next year. Her husband will be called "Mr. President." Get used to it! If you start bending your peabrain around it now, you'll arrive to this new understanding by 20 January 2009.

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | July 23, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain is taking credit for an idea floated by Frederick W. Kagan of the AEI.

Here's some background: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/14/21715/7058

Posted by: frank | July 23, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

The sheik who contacted Col. McFarlane was, in fact, assassinated in the early days of the "Surge." Oh, well. Facts don't matter to Big John.

Posted by: tom | July 23, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain spends more time being offensive than being on the offensive.

Posted by: Woody | July 23, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Alright, it's time we hear NO MORE about supposed media bias in favor of Obama. This was a blatant disregard for journalistic integrity. Even if the absolutely shoddy editing job were done "under extreme time constraints," that neither excuses nor hides the fact that changing the chronology of McCain's quotes DOES, in fact, distort what he says--because the alteration almost (*almost*) makes him sound like he knows what he's talking about.

Put the quotes in the proper order, and he clearly doesn't.

If a newspaper had done this, it would all be right there in black and white, and heads would likely roll. CBS needs to issue an apology...and get their lazy duffs off of McCain's Donut Express.

Posted by: tellthetruth | July 23, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Edward R Murrow in his grave and Walter Cronkite on Martha's vineyard did what we all do if we were to be stabbed in the back and left for dead but are still alive if barely.

We assert 'American Exceptionalism' to provide us with a fig leaf when we do the very same deeds as those we condemn others for. We are exceptional, alright:

A. A president with support from 28 % of the citizens but still very much in power.

B. A legislature with support from 9 % of the electorate and filled with ideologues who long for 19th century mores and thinking.

C. A fourth estate emulating the ways of the Soviet Press in its heyday -- one that deserves a negative number for its level of popular support.

This is the democracy we went to war to establish in Iraq? This is the system that is worth close to a million deaths, 2 million plus refugees and a trillion American dollars?

Posted by: hollywoodog | July 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

If it wasn't for racist people, McCain would be toast. McCain thanks God everyday for racist people, because they are his base now.

Posted by: playa | July 23, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

retirement age is 65.
i expect these gaffes to happen.

Posted by: Lee from FL | July 23, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Time to boot that Hillary Shrill Katie Couric out of CBS. Maybe she can be wive #3 for McLame, noticing that Cindy's 'things' are getting a little droopy if you know what I mean ;-)

Posted by: playa | July 23, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

A editing mistake. I have a bridge I would like to sell Friedman. Oops sorry mistake bridge not mine:) I was typing another e-mail and in my haste in cutting and pasting....

Posted by: Mistake | July 23, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

'an expert in the Iraq war'. real resume builder. if he could expertly explain to me a justification for the war, i'll give him a PhD.

Posted by: uvastudent | July 23, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

It's not a gaffe. It is part of a campaign of misinformation to get people to think that the surge enabled the Awakening to begin, when it's not true. John McCain's story about the sheik was as disingenuous as Hillary Clinton's Bosnia landing.

What the surge did was enable the Awakening to continue, but the Awakening was well underway before the extra troops got there, almost a full year before they got there.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

What the edit job did do was cover up the fact that there is controversy over the benifits of the surg. . . . . . It also shows that McCain is not sharp as a tack. . . . . . The one thing the surg itself did do is cost us a lot more money over this whole mess.

And remember, in the next few years no matter who's elected, the foreign power with the most influence in Iraq will be Shiite led Iran . . . . . . Now tell me again, what is it that we're fighting for?

Posted by: Coldcomfort | July 23, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of lies circulating about the surge and the iraq issue. On MSNBC's Morning Joe this morning, Joe Scarborough drew a line in the sand and claimed that the Anbar awakening happened AFTER the surge had started, and impugned the honesty and honor of anyone who said otherwise, essentially calling them too ill informed to even participate in the debate about the iraq war. And his whole reason for this was to strong-arm his co-hosts into admitting that the surge worked.

This posturing reminds me of the line in the sand that some administration people drew after Katrina, claiming that no one could have known that the devastation would be so great, and was only reputed after a video of a pre-Katrina presidential briefing came into the public domain.

Let's face it, McCain has lost the debate in the Iraq issue. Either he can continue his current position, which supports war in Iraq with no end, or he can shift his position to support a withdrawal timeline, in which case Obama can rightfully claim correct judgment on the issue.

BTW, the MSM covering of McCain's repeated gaffes is worrisome. The only way that McCain can win, in my opinion, is the fact that the so-called "low information voters" will not see these gaffes, and will vote for McCain on issues that have nothing to do with selecting the candidate who will best protect their economic interests or keep America safe.

Posted by: rw | July 23, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin eyes? The Old Maverick is a Straight Talker and our wonderful press corpse needs to make sure we know it.

Posted by: branfo | July 23, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

These are not gaffess!! McCain is displaying a fundamental misunderstanding of foreign policy but continually and consistently misstating the facts!!! He says the wrong word or term in a tense negotiation and it's all over folks!! Wake up and get real about McCain not being a foreign policy expert just becuase he served in the war! Serving is one thing (which we honor him) but creating and decipering policy is completely another!!!

And do Diane77 - who cares about how Michelle eats? How do you eat in your home? Is your mouth always closed all the time?! YOUR COMMENT IS RIDICULOUS!!

How about Cindy MCain in the white house having tea with Queen Elizabeth nodding and drooling - high from all those prescription drug medications? Is that fair - NO. And to my point - neither was your comment about Michelle. Stick to the issues and not character assassination!!

Posted by: Kimberly | July 23, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Is McCain going to have a full-time editor cutting and rearranging his replies, just like he always has someone hovering over his shoulder to whisper in his ear "No, what you really meant to say was..."

And how long is the news media going to perform this service for him, or not bother pointing out how badly he's screwing up the facts?

The right-wing punks sneer about it, but the more I see and hear of John George McBush, the more I do pray that Obama will win this election and begin to save this country from the Repugnant thugs.

OBAMA '08

Posted by: GaryL1 | July 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Keeping the troops in Iraqi is over $150 billion per year -- actually it is $300 billion per year when all the bills are tallied.

Pumping gas at the pump is $4 per gallon.

Fully endorsing Al Gore and T. Boone's energy independence in ten-years is smart.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | July 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Actually, it got much worse for McCain today. He was asked about this today and, instead of saying what his advisers said about the surge supporting the Awakening, he actually said that the surge WAS the Awakening AND all counterinsurgency tactics.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the surge was meant to be the troop increase authorized by Bush in January 2007. Counterinsurgent tactics may have been the aim of the surged troops, but the big debate in Washington at the time was whether or not we should send in more troops.

It's as if Barack Obama had criticized Col. McFarland's Anbar Awakening strategy in 2006. That didn't happen. Therefore, under McCain's definition, Obama did not oppose the surge.

McCain is either lying through his teeth or senile.

Posted by: Elrod | July 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You all criticizing John McCain are a bunch of jerks. Yes, he forgot a few details about when the surge began and what Sheikh got killed when. So what? Big deal!! He served our country with honor. We all owe a debt to those that came before and they deserve to be treated with respect. He's old and his memory isn't terrific - that is just a fact of life. If you're lucky, you'll be there too someday.

He still remembers the important things, like if he gets to breakfast early, there are still bananas, and then he can get the good table in the bingo room, you know, the one close to the front where you can hear the numbers.

Posted by: renu1 | July 23, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

The so-called age-related gaffes are overrated.
I'm 48 and I know the Czech Republic is the Czech Republic and I call it Czechoslovakia from time to time myself. It was Czechoslovakia for longer than it was the Czech Rep. in my memory.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I remember reading at least one article two years ago in the Washington Post (perhaps the Express) describing a special forces officer who was irate about superior officers not following his lead on interacting with the tribal sheiks of Anbar on security, reconstruction and government services.

Shortly thereafter, another special forces officer wrote a memo saying that the war in Anbar was lost that leaked to the press.

It turns out that his judgment was a bit premature; however the question remains: why weren't traditional counterinsurgency tactics used earlier?

Regardless, they were belatedly implemented before the additional "surge" troops arrived.

Posted by: faithfulservant3 | July 23, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Howie 'The media defender' Kurtz doesn't really criticize much in the media does he? Look, you can criticize a mistake, but rhis was no mistake. All that's left are accusations and answers which we'll probably never get. THEY FRIGGIN SUBSITIUTED ANSWERS FROM ANOTHER QUESTION! That is an act of commission, not an act of omission. Until CBS provides real answers there's no reason to put any more weight behind their reporting than FOX. We've just reached a point where Americans can no longer trust American corporations to tell them the truth.

Posted by: Max Thrax | July 23, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

This country is in serious danger if B.O. and other left-wing nut jobs get elected to office. Lord, have mercy.

Posted by: Marc | July 23, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

LOL. So much for the so-called liberal media fawning over Obama. I can't believe it, but I'm actually shocked by CBS News' behavior. Switching an answer filled with a horrible gaffe to one that attacks Obama as a traitor who would rather see America lose a war than him lose an election. Priceless. CBS News is a bad joke.

Posted by: Middle American | July 23, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

WaPo is great, but, have got to say, Americans cannot spell! Reading down through the comments is tough going.

Posted by: hurtak10 | July 23, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'm trying my best to understand McCain's version of history. There was a secret surge that happened before the real surge that help bring about the super secret surge. Dude that sounds like a comic book or a Star Trek plot. It makes completely no sense. How can anyone take this old fool seriously is beyond me!

Posted by: dre7861 | July 23, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Now I know why Obama wanted to wait to debate McCain. He's going to have so much ammunition to use against McCain that it is just going to be a matter of how best to "package" it.

I still can't believe that McCain is getting 40+% support in the polls. I know that, thanks to our educational policy, there are a lot of stupid people in this country, but that's a but much...

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 23, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

darn, i was so pissed and saw obama's face on the video and assumed that it was a video of him on cbs.

i guess McCain's base, the media, did cover this...

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 23, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

All the major networks have turned into crap, but Katy and the CBS news is really a joke in perpetual motion. I love Gwen Iffel though.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | July 23, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

How about posting the CBS video of Sen. McCain either lying or completely forgetting the timeline of the Iraq war by suggesting that the surge led to the Anbar Awakening? (Which, of course, happened before the surge.)

As CBS edited out McCain's lie/"misremember" so the NYT and the WaPo have conveniently decided to give Sen. McCain yet another pass.

Yet more proof positive that the MSM is in the tank for McCain.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 23, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Kurtz and Shear are left wing hacks. CBS is in the tank for Obama, just like NBC, CNN, MSNBC and ABC

Posted by: BITTER AND CLINGING | July 23, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

You're a media critic Howard Kurtz. How about a little criticism? What do you think of CBS News substituting an answer to another question to deceive CBS viewers into thinking that McCain knew what he was talking about? What shameful behavior. How often does this type of "editing" go on Mr. Kurtz? Where's the outrage at a mainstream network seemingly trying to protect a presidential candidate from the consequences of his ignorance or untruthfulness about a subject that he says most qualifies him to be president? If this had been a news organization switching one of Obama's answers to a question to make him look better, there would be outrage from the right and the mainstream press. Do your job Howard Kurtz.

Posted by: Former Republican | July 23, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Let's move forward - McCain obviously made some mistakes but he is so proud of the surge that he can't seem to talk about anything positive. He keeps whining about it over and over again - it is getting on my nerves. He looks like a bitter old man who needs to have everyone 'see' how right he believes he is...let's talk about other important issues. Old men always have to be right and get their way - they really don't listen to others because they have already figured it all out. Stop the whining - please.

Posted by: Marc from San Diego | July 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

McCane, get over here, old man, it's time to change your diaper! Rest your weary eyes! Nap time's coming soon, and then I'll read you a widdle stowy about widdle geezer who could!


Posted by: Aaron the Magnificent! | July 23, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

CBS is making a favor to CAIN and a disfavor to the USA.
CBS is putting politics before letting the truth be seen and heard by the American people, just like the Republican government has done for the past years.They do not love their country, they love themselves and the power they have.

Posted by: Alma | July 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

OKAY, NOW does everyone see where the major networks are leaning? This was a despicable act no matter who the interviewee was. Katie Couric has always been a no talent hack that got her job because of her looks. This has been long debated, but now it seems as though she is proving it!! CBS on the other hand ought to have their license revoked. I think it is about time that everyone turned a blind eye when someone has a despicable act like this done to them. I had stopped watching the evening news because all I heard was one side. The internet contains all the news from many perspectives, both the USA and from all over the world. It is very enlightening and informative. Too bad the big media of the USA won't pay attention. They are sinking but patting each other on the back telling each other how well they are doing. All I have to say is "Good bye and good night big networks and hello cable"

Posted by: news21046 | July 23, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

But this is not the only gaffe...he made it worse today. Mccain claimed that the surge helped prtect Anbar. Problem is Anber Sheikh actually died in the midst of the surge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/23/anbar-shiek-cited-by-mcca_n_114581.html

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with McCain's age, but his mental capabilities don't seem too great. For example, my grandmother is almost ten years older than McCain but her mind is much quicker than his. Believe it or not, she even knows how to use a computer.

Posted by: McScary | July 23, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

And still, McSame complains that the big meanies in the press are against him?

Posted by: bob | July 23, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

CBS crucified Dan Rather for not fact checking well enough. Now they don't see anything wrong with editing out a factual mis-statement by a potential President of the United States. I'm sorry, I can no longer trust Katie Couric and CBS.

Posted by: David | July 23, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I think that McCain is making a big deal over nothing and Obama is responding similarly. The surge had some benefit not as much as McCain claims and more than Obama expected. That's important?

What is important is how McCain and Obama arrived where they are today. Obama worked his way up, went into debt and lived the American dream. McCain was an aviator who could not make admiral as his father and grandfather did. His father helped him get out of jams along the way. He never made it on his own and acquired wealth by marriage,

I am not saying that this history makes one man more qualified than the other. But when making economic policy decisions which man do you think will be more likely to think of creating a level playing field and who will be more likely to think in terms of strengthening entrenched power?

After all is said and done, the greatest problem is the economy.

Obama's life history and experience will make him more likely to think of the problems of ordinary people.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 23, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Lets be clear about SENATOR McCain. He will say anything to get out of a foxhole, just like he did in Vietnam. This administration, With McCain has denied ever saying anything wrong about all the flubs this administration has done. They will never admit it, and this media we have will never make them. Just like CBS and Katie, they will change the answer if it looks bad.

Posted by: Souza the patriot | July 23, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully McCain will protect our boarders with Iran and Peru, and not let Al-Qubert open more Starbucks on Mars!

Posted by: | July 23, 2008 5:46 PM

Oh, gosh, I nearly cried from laughing so hard after reading this.

Posted by: ndo | July 23, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

As McCain said, the history is clear -- he blew it. He claimed the Surge troops started the Anbar Awakening when it was 6 months old before any Surge troops hit the ground. He then tried to wrap himself in Gen. Petreus (where have we seen that?), saying Petreus agreed with him when the CNN report last night looked at Petreus' comments and noted he, too, agreed that the Awakening began before the Surge. The MSM has let McCain get away with equating "reduction in violence" with "the Surge" long enough. As Obama has noted, the Surge likely would not have reduced violence but for the Awakening and the stand down of Shiite militias. Foreign affairs experts agree on this, but the lazy US press corps has just lumped everything under the Surge banner. No longer. And the really sad part of this whole discussion is that Katie Couric and the geniuses at the once-great CBS didn't seem to understand the import of McCain's answer. They didn't know enough about the subject to catch the gaffe -- which shows us why the blogs have been so crucial in keeping the race even this year.

Posted by: straight talk my a** | July 23, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Don't tell me that the "expert" in foreign policy and Irak Phd doesn't have the facts right? OMG!!!! Told you so, the guy is damn old and liar!!!

Posted by: Carl29 | July 23, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

When is the Washington Media going to quit covering up for John "Gaffe-a-minute" McCain's iability to get his facts straight? The Washington press corps have had a love affair with the happy-go-lucky Senator for years without ever doing any serious analysis of his lack of understanding of complex issues and his stubborn refusal to back down even when the facts do not support his world view. The truth is there are a lot of complex reasons why violence is down in Iraq, and the surge is only one of the many reasons, but such complex reality is beyond McCain's understanding.

Posted by: bgjd1979 | July 23, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully McCain will protect our boarders with Iran and Peru, and not let Al-Qubert open more Starbucks on Mars!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Grandpa McCain got his wish after all. The media is covering him too. Not the way he wanted it, but what do you expect from a 72 year old geezer who makes a new gaff everyday.

Posted by: Playa | July 23, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

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