Clinton Loaned Self Another $1 Million After Leaving Race

By Matthew Mosk
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's debt to her vendors grew in June, according to a federal filing tonight to the Federal Election Commission, and the New York Democrat reported loaning herself an additional $1 million after leaving the campaign trail.

Clinton raised just $2.7 million in June and finished the month with $25.2 million in campaign debt, most of that, $13.175 million, owed to Clinton herself, according to her report to the FEC. She has said she will seek to repay the campaign's debts to others before paying herself back. Campaign vendors awaiting payment included the firm of strategist Mark Penn, owed $5.3 million, and the Dewey Square Group, owed $236,000.

The campaign also owed local firms in states such as Pennsylvania and Indiana, where Clinton fought in late, competitive primaries. She owed nearly $1,800 to Kokomo Center Schools in Indiana, for instance, and nearly $6,000 to Dakota Pizza in Wynnwood, Pa.

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Yesterday I raised the white flag to Matt Drudge for superior style, delivery and taste.

Today, I raise my white flag for a female. She is bright and prolific.

Bye bye!

(Yes in his voice)

Posted by: Bittertooth vs. Feminazi | August 3, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Headline is this:

(G)Is adjust to life back in Minn. after nearly 500 days in Ira(q)

That's GQ! Thanks for whatever it is.

Yahoo after you click says this:

(A)P IMPACT: Long haul begins in Iraq for Minn. GI(s)

That's AS. Whoa! What a compliment. If I die soon, yahoo one night did a Sicilian Roast for me. It was magnificant!~

Posted by: Goferit | August 2, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Describe a jungle for me:

Blackness surrounds us. It will never leave.

Posted by: AmmmmmA | August 2, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Chairman Leahy:

Calm presence before the storm.

Ranking Member Specter:

You are scaring me.

and Members of the Committee:

Not in jail yet? Ha! Okay, some water please, with a touch of lemon.

thank you for the opportunity to discuss the Department of Justice's efforts to protect intellectual property rights through criminal enforcement.

First, we do not believe IP exists.

As America continues its transformation into an information and innovation based economy, the protection of America's creative assets is a top priority of the Department of Justice.

Intellectual property embodies America's cultural heritage, consumer confidence and trust in brands for products ranging from prescription medicines to spark plugs, and most of the assets of our vibrant information industries.

Second, our cultural heritage included running away because we couldn't get along with our parents. Just like we are doing now. If someone steals an idea, you really think they belong in prison? What if they like the idea? How can you own an idea? You can't. The enforcement of IP is a good ol' boy network with Mr. Bush at the helm.

As the Committee knows, the majority of the enforcement regime for protecting these intellectual property assets is now and has traditionally been civil.

Step down. Third, is this a crime? Responding to your thoughts. When I hit the period, it's mine. Tick, tock, gunshot! Booya

However, with the advent of new technologies, a global supply chain economy, and the increased involvement of transnational criminal organizations, criminal enforcement is now more important than ever in protecting intellectual property rights.

I am complaining, but the job being done at this moment is probably 99.37% perfect.

Today, the Department is dedicating more energy and resources than ever before to the protection of U.S. intellectual property rights, with a particular emphasis on health and safety crimes and organized criminal syndicates.

What about the rights of catholic priests?

The Department has been an integral part of President Bush's Strategy Targeting Organized Piracy, or "STOP", initiative.

I thought he was at the helm of a battleship, not a pirate ship. yuck yuck yuck. (laughter)

This initiative involves government officials, local and national law enforcement, small businesses, and international partners in a coordinated and aggressive strategy to fight global intellectual property crime.

Isn't it easier to just say, we are looking for reasons for increased tensions with China?

Under the umbrella of the STOP initiative and the Department of Justice's Task Force on Intellectual Nice Job!!
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SOURCE: U.S. Department of Justice
CopyrightÂ©2008 PR NIewswire.
All rights reserved

Posted by: PsyCsTravestie | August 1, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Sure there were big boys in town, but they were all smileys. H53 Would be kinda personal. Says leave daddy alone, and follow another path to Cuba.

Midnight. He had a good run.

NOMORE
KNOWMORE

Just like grape nuts, it is what it is.

Today besides the Canadian beheading... we had 22,000 3 times brought to you by the fine folks at the CIA.

1. A plane crashes near a town with 22,000 people in MN.

2. Arnold S. cuts 22,000 jobs in CA today.

3. 22,000 calls are recieved every year by the VA suicide hotline number.

4.
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VISUALMEMBEROFLIKELYSICILIANMAFIAMEMBERSROB
VISUALMEMBEROFLIKELYSICILIANMAFIAMEMBERSROB
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Posted by: R.F.K. | August 1, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

Everyone doesn't get 10 seconds in the sun. I know they don't.

Aaron Nile Mattes
aka Mr. Whatitzworth

My brother and #1.
Kyle-Judge
Chris-Military
Dan-Hollywood
Kellen-Insider
DJ-Farmman
Aaron-NoSox
Dustin-Sexaholic
David (if alive)-Replicable
Rex-
Donnie-Mechanic
Zane

These were my classmates in a very important and political class. (Not Zaner).

22,000 cut today. ouch.

Drive over and pick em up if you want a killer court. Or we can all root from afar for Dionne. Shadows dancing in the night, never see the dawn of the light.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 31, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

First, we were allowed to have slaves as a nation.

Second, we changed our minds. A war was fought. And new rules were established.

Third, we can change our minds again.

Fourth, white people lived in Idaho in the mid 1800's. Since we were not a state, their views were not considered. Sometimes it only takes one person to change everyone's views. Think of the brave student who talked to the tank driver in Tiennimen Square.

Fifth, a modern slave does not have to perform physical labor.

Sixth, a slave is defined as a beautiful goth girl. Her hair and nails are black. She would paint the White House black. She is divine and sweet. A ghost is in her, and on her. All around her she wants to love and adore.

Seventh, if she wants to do things that I say she can. And I do not have to pay her. I can ask her nicely to wear a collar, and if she so chooses she may.

Eigth, if law enforcement wishes to pursue this matter, they should not look to the 13th amendment for support. That is like pointing to toilet paper.

Ninth, instead a classic girl must approach me. One that likes to spend time and read. Maybe she cooks. She will read magazines and live a proper life. Her animals surround and adore her. Life is so pure.

Tenth, if it's for play then the vast amount of the activity in question is none of the government's concern.

Eleventh, slavery is legal in North Idaho. Slavery is illegal in southern Idaho.

Twelf, not so much nibbling next time.

Posted by: Rob sawToni | July 31, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

Rob, this is making no sense to me at all.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/07/25/john_mccain_and_the_applesauce.html

Why are you leaving all these encrypted comments on this forum?

So I can win the nobel peace prize and run Melissa out of business. Why what are you doing? You sounded like a battered wife in your email. That's what you get for going south of the border.

And why on earth would you put your phone # on here as well?

"Change one vote a day, and we will have our way." Nader 08 with no protection!

No, I'm not going to RAT YOU OUT

try
333
roy

oh because roy jones jr. can beat meup i should lose control of the world. maybe.

but I think you need to rethink your position here...

You will have to get Sharkspearian to get the fish out of my hands. I have lots and I am not sharing.

you are making little if any sense, and some of us who care about you are getting worried.

that is a coded death treat kendra and i resent you things. all you can do is chat. we need substance. we need provocation. and we need to hear the sound of a gun. lots of guns.

that is a coded reaction. the lighter side is undefended. the green side. the black sidde. the white side. does that make sense kendra? can't i be subtle now or do you want me to do the math?

anyways please come over you know where i live. i'm out.

Posted by: Biggertooth | July 29, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Rob, this is making no sense to me at all. Why are you leaving all these encrypted comments on this forum?
And why on earth would you put your phone # on here as well?
No, I'm not going to RAT YOU OUT but I think you need to rethink your position here... you are making little if any sense, and some of us who care about you are getting worried.

Posted by: Kendra | July 29, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Swan.

Posted by: Psy88 | July 29, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Latest News:

17 blasts in 70 minutes kill dozens in India 46 min

I guess I only have to explain one. A1.

Obama, Brown discuss 'special relationship'
Ticker: British leader tells Obama to hit beach
Iran to execute 30 on Sunday
First check: No corrosion at hole in Qantas jet

Detroit mayor swore, shoved me, detective says

SD=sad, not a sucker of sorts.

CNNMoney: Gas prices dip below $4
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Posted by: Psy31 | July 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Fake Id can't get in the club lookin' boy.

Posted by: Psy27 | July 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Cops were here today. I think it was go time. Not good. If you're ceasing why are you going? Righty right. That's because Matt Drudge crossed the line by saying what he would do as president. That is not his job. It's like using cloud data to control traffic signals.

Hang on CNN is calling.

Posted by: Psy25 | July 24, 2008 4:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I placed my ad in for the nobel peace prize in peace yesterday. Wish me luck fellow bloggers!

My side wish is this. That that cult sex leader be freed. What does he have to do start a band, go on tour, then it's okay? It makes no sense. Leave genitalia out of politics. Set him free or god help me if I ever get an ounce of power I will use it to unlock that key. Yuck!!

Posted by: Psy24 | July 23, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Psy22 was just murdered in a blogroom about my old school NIC in North Idaho. Hurts. Here's all I could scoop up for now.

This is actually why many of them took up arms against US forces in the first place: not many people know it, but even Saddam used to pay brides to the Sunni tribes to keep them from attacking his oil infrastructure. The CPA stopped the payments, and the tribes started attacking pipelines to get the money flowing again. Instead they got shot, so then they wanted not only their regular extortion money, but also blood money for the people we killed. Thus was the Sunni insurgency born. It ended when we paid them what they wanted.

Yes. I think McCain and Obama are deciding which is better to tell or not to tell. Well TRUMARY... is it really you? Or who are you? Please tell us.

Posted by: Psy23 | July 23, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

obots are missing the compassionate gene. Reading this blog makes it so easy to support McCain.

Posted by: DemNoMore | July 23, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

Weak, watery and wicked. :P

Posted by: Psy19 | July 22, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that was a very Irish sounding post. A hypen would have been nice towards the end, but I don't want to ever try to influence your style. It was refreshing to hear how wealthy the Clintons are. Shoot, Amy... I say Dionne, my sister says the Alaska Governor. Who do you think will be elected President?

Posted by: AmysPsy18 | July 22, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't Hillary pay her own debts? Why should anyone help her out in her folly? Besides, she has over $100 million the Clintons hoarded after they left office. Any person of integrity would pay for their own foolish ambition to turn the elections around. But not the Clintons. They are shameless. They would sooner have the poor Obama schmoes pay off her debt than dip into her own deep coffers of influence peddling and NAFTA dollars. Not a dime from me for the harridan who is more republican than a progressive democrat. Why not ask those republican women who will not vote for Obama? You know. Those 18 million who if they each gave a measly $2 could give her extra money to start another bid in 2012. Hopefully by then, the Clintons will be has beens and run out of dirty politics forever.

Posted by: Amy from Seattle | July 22, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Poor Hillary!!!! Now, check this out YOU ALL!!! Do you really think Obama needs Billary on his ticket after he is doing so well before going to Iraq, etc.? Now, after going to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., he is proving himself to America that he can be a Great Commander-in-Chief. So, all you Hillary supporters can forget about it. Obama is NOT putting Hillary on the ticket. He doesn't need her or Bill. He can say when he wins the election, he did it without the Billary's.

I agree with previous comments regarding paying Hillary's debt. 18 million voters for Hillary??? Then YOU ALL can contribute ONLY $1.50 to pay off her debt since you love her so much. Hillary dragged out the Primary to prove a point and where did it get her???? Nowhere!!! But alot of debt. I'm not impressed w/ Hillary at all. She couldn't even control her own campaign; nor could she use her finances in a responsible way. So, how could she be President??? DUH!!!!!!

Posted by: DW | July 22, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The US must break its dependence on Arab Oil. Although moderate Arab countries appear to be amicable with the US on the surface, just scratch a little beneath that outward show of friendship, and you will find that they are just as disenchated as the extreemists are, with the fact that the US and Israel are REAl and TRUTHFUL allies. The Sunnis and Shiaites may hate one another, but their combined hatred for Israel is much, much fiercer, and both moderates and extremists will do whatever it takes to wipe Israel off the map first.
Since America has stood by Israel until now, it is vitally important for the US to sever dependence on Arab oil, otherwise the US and Israel are will always be courting disaster.

Posted by: magdalen | July 22, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's financial problems should be her own because she obviously lacks common sense. Give back the money donated to you so that you supporters can give it back to you to help retire your debt. You want to hold on to it and still expect people to help you with your debt.
As for Michael Sanders you are nothing but a fool. Why should Obama's supporters help Hillary when she is already thinking of running in 2012. We are in 2008 and the 2008 race is the focus not what Hillary wants to do in 2012. She is not supporting Obama so why should Obama's supporters help her.
If her so called 18 million supporters can be blown around by the wind then they were never democrats. If she had been a Republican then they would have been Republicans. They know nothing about the political climate or issues facing the american people. All they know is Hillary Clinton and if she were to jump off a cliff they would follow blindly.

Posted by: Terri | July 22, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Debts of Hillary should be paid by Hillary-herself. Period! She got this ridicules idea that she is suitable to be Commander-In-Chief. She has done a lot of the most terrible things for sixteen years, trying to achieve it. She, probably, mutilated her own life on this way. However, she is adult, and the very rich adult. So, she should pay her debts herself.

Posted by: aepelbaum | July 22, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu:

We have a new planet named Makemake. You will be receiving a letter from me if I send it about your UUs. In the beginning and end of your name. It's a long letter.

U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu:

The guy that named makemake... did a great deal of research. He is probably more psychotic then I will ever be, especially with kids on the way.

Feels good to chat but I must cease. I love u!

Posted by: Psy16 | July 21, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Michael Sanders:

Why don't the Clinton's 18 million voters you think you control somehow pay 2 bucks each and retire Hillary's debt? Where are all these people? Since Obama got $52 million in June, and Clinton got a measly $2 million, my guess is most of those voters have already gone for Obama.

Myself, I won't donate to her, ever.

Posted by: Sunshine | July 21, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

There are surely some issues regarding the Democratic Party Primaries, which have to be resolved honorable if this bigotry Party Leadership want to keep face and want to win the November elections.
First, the Obamans should pay of immediate the full debt of Hillary Clintons Campaign if they want to take over the 18Million Voters of hers. That is only fair and reasonable. Without doing so, this, already weak Illinois one time Senator, is truly not more worth than many say he is...nothing. His "show-off" payment to Hillary's Campaign is more an Insult than any good face and is typically for his character.
Second, the self elected Democratic Leadership, Pelosi, Dean and Reid have to show for once face and have to push the impeachment of Bush, otherwise they will be forever being tied to the Failures of the Bush Administration, because they supported it and did not fight it in any way.
If these hypocrites (Pelosi, Dean and Reid) even think that they have a mandate, they should also take the responsibilities such mandate demands.
There will be no change at all, if they do not push their "Crown-Prince" to pay for the 18Million votes and especially not if they let the Bush Administration let getting away with its premeditated crimes against the people and in specific against the Constitution of this Country.
Whit doing nothing of this, the Democrats associate and affiliate themselves with all the same concepts and acts of the Bush Administration and show not any integrity or respect for the peoples votes and trust. Therefore no change can or will happen until this is been resolved.
America wake up, this Democrats, lead by Pelosi, Dean and Reid are not better than Bush, Cheney, Addison and all these others who betrayed us.
Vote for Hillary and topple this morbid Democratic leadership for its incompetence and betrayal to the American People. Or vote independent to show them that their view of right and wrong is as false as they are.

Posted by: Michael Sanders | July 21, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't feel sorry in the least for the small businesses that tried to make money off of Hillary's campaign and wound up getting burned. Why should I? They had every reason to know they were dealing with a Pathological Liar and dishonest thief when they chose to do business with her. And that's before her pathetic BALD-FACED Lies about being shot at. On top of that her husband is a disbarred Liar without morals or shame so they got what they deserved for dealing with scum. By the way Hillary, when will we get our White House furniture back you piano legged lardass?
And now you pathetic twits are left with the socialist NoBama--a Marxist sympathizer with ties to creeps, crooks, terrorists, and race baiting bigots who stuggles to put together a coherent response to any question he has not rehearsed. This country will be destroyed from within someday by morons of the sort who support him so blindly today. Pull your head out of butts. You'll be amazed at how much more clearly you can think once your head clears...

Posted by: Notyet | July 21, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Would someone wake up Nader? I swear it's the new N word. Nothing on CNN, Yahoo, Huffingluffigus, or anywhere else. Jesus, is his or your campaign a bloody secret?

I brought up a sports term and soon after there were comments about sexism. That was very funny. It took me two hours and having to read it twice, but I managed.

Ya, here at the Nader camp we won't be accepting props.

Oh, one more thing before I carry on with my rednick day.

Out here in Idaho we don't know that Obama even exists. He could be a computer person like Simone with Al Pacino. We think that Obama is really an alias of Bill Clinton. If we elect Obama then he will have tricked us into voting for him. Him being Clinton.

Paranoid? Oh ya. It would be easy to always say that Obama is somewhere else and not get caught. To Denver you say he is in New York. To New York you say that he is in Iraq. No one really cares so Bill Clinton could easily get away with it.

Sucks, doesn't it? Ya, now go back and come up with a new plan.

Thanks WP for the forum!! :)

Posted by: Psy15 | July 21, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

hrc IS ASKING HER SUPPORTERS IF SHE CAN KEEP THEIR FUNDS FOR 2012.

Hillary Clinton's campaign is sending out letters to donors asking permission to roll a $2,300 contribution to Clinton's 2008 general election coffers to her 2012 senate election fund instead of offering a refund.

The letter, read to me by one recipient, includes a photocopy of a handwritten note from Clinton that says, "Dear friend, your commitment has meant so much to me over the course of my presidential campaign. You were there for me when I needed you the most and I'll never forget it. I hope you'll help me continue to fight for the issues and causes we believe in by filling out the enclosed form in support of Friends of Hillary."

The form says, "I hereby verify that my 2008 general election contribution may be designated to the 2012 Senate election. I designate the entire amount to the 2012 primary election. However if I have already contributed to the 2012 primary, I designate any amount in excess of $2,300 to the 2012 general election."
IT IS DISGUSTING THAT SHE OWES LITTLE PEOPLE MONEY.HER SUPPORTERS SHOULD PONY UP AND PAY OFF THE DEBT.WHERE ARE HER BIG FUNDRAISING FRIENDS NOW?
Obama will still lead the popular vote even in Florida is counted. And he'll lead it with Michigan too, as long as he's credited with the uncommitted votes there.
But if we're going to count Florida, there's really no justification for not counting those four caucus states, where generally accepted popular-vote estimates have Obama generating a plurality of 110,222 votes. Factor them in and Obama's final advantage--with Florida--almost doubles.
Now let's look at Michigan, a deeply flawed contest where turnout was exceedingly low and Obama's name was absent from the ballot. Clinton "won" the primary there with 55 percent, while "uncommitted" netted 40 percent.
Of course, only counting her votes is unfair. A reasonable compromise for including Michigan would involve giving Obama credit for the uncommitted votes
238,168 votes, he pulls ahead in the overall popular vote by almost 140,000 votes.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Iwould not give Hill a penny to pay off her debt.She knew it was impossible for her to win. But she need to stay in to trash Obama because she was so angry that her entitlement, was just her imigination.Have her supporters who claim they will never vote for OBAMA pay off her debt.She has still not released her delegate, she continue to let her supportes beleive she had more of the popular vote,and that is only true if you don't count the caucaus states. If she would issues a statement to her supporters
stating the truth, and release her delegates ,then and only with I help her with her debts.But she will never do that. Know why, she continues to be a liar.Once a liar always a liar.

Posted by: tygirl | July 21, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

HILLARY MAY BE ANTICIPATING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME AT THE CONVENTION

The Democratic convention is not over and done with.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-clintons-presidential-campaign.html

Posted by: PacificGatePost | July 21, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Clinton supporters sure are cheap!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The last time the topic of Ms. Clinton's debt came up, a lot of PUMA supporters chimed up that they had paid half of it off over the fourth of July weekend and were on the verge of paying off the remainder.

I'm not hearing that anymore. Was that just blowing smoke, or what?

Posted by: drossless | July 21, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

This will end with T.

O.U.C.H.

D
O
W
not! McCain/? Obama/? Nader/Gonzales '08!

McCain gives Obama 1 million to spend at disneyland. Obama starts walking around with his friends, calling people on his cell phone and now the entire nation is following this green candidate around. I realize his degree is in foreign policy, but who will he run to if he gets hungry or starts to cry? Probably the Joint Chiefs---McCain's friends.

Don't be afraid of Ralph Nader because his IQ has been tested, and the results were infinity. Be afraid of Ralph Nader, because you do not have the courage to vote for him. :) I just may not have the time :) 208 687 8288 Rob.

"Change one vote a day, and we will have our way." Nader/Gonzo 08 Baby!

Posted by: Psy14 | July 21, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

And yet after all this, she still fails to lend herself a clue!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/07/21/mccain-campaign-has-over-1-million-in-credit-card-debt/

who should be trusted to run your economy?

Posted by: Veneita | July 21, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

It is constantly misrepresented that Clinton won the popular vote. Go to www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/clinton-obama-popular-vote.html It lists four different calculations of the popular vote totals. Obama wins with FL and MI, and without. The only way he loses the popular vote is if you DON'T count caucus states.

Any way you slice it, Obama wins the nomination. Legitimately, honestly, fairly.

Clinton will have a hard time being re-elected to her senate seat with this debt. Her supporters should help her out if they want to see her continue in public office.

Posted by: Sunshine | July 21, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Bets re Obama would have raised even MORE $$$ in June , but many hesitated , needed reassurance that NOT ONE DIME OF THEIR HARD EARNED $$'s were going over to pay off CLinton debts...still causing hesitation and the nonsense of some of the uber Clintonista loyalist is beyond absurd in their current snarkings as well. (REALLY sore/poor losers and NO GRACIOUSNOUS extended..what they offer is hardly sincere and their bitter disappointment shows more than anything else...truly pathetic !!!)

Posted by: Harvey | July 21, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Keep hearing how CLINTON HAS 18MILLION voters/supporters in HER/THEIR pocket/at their back/etc...Well, have those 18million pony up a meager $2-3 dollars each to show how firmly they DO YET SUPPORT and "wallah", debt paid and even a bit of spare change to get off on the circuit to collect further fees for babbling further about what history she/they have made even if it did NOT seal the sle nor garner a return to the WH for the C's for that legacy building and whatever...Even hearing her ON THE STUMP now for Obama gives pause, for comes off as YET campaigning and just standing by JUST IN CASE something or other happens and the Dems find themselves in need of a different candidate than Obama ...The Clintons need to go off and just chill and enjopy their personal fortune, they've done quite well and She and Bill and daughter will do quite handsomely in personal finances that will allow them the "lifstyle to which they have grown into !!!

Posted by: Bozly | July 21, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

These statements are just what we don't need we need to unit unless you want McCain for 4 years. Who knows if Hillary will be alive in 4 more years or Obama or anyone for that matter. We have to do what is right now at this time to make sure we do have change. Please for our country don't split the party with your anger we just can not wait for 2012.

Posted by: Kat | July 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Not a dime to pay off her debts. She chose to stay in the race longer when it was mathematically impossible for her to win. She chose to spend money that she didn't raise. What kind of fiscal responsibility is that? It's a crime that she owes small businesses all over this country. How can she sleep at night knowing that small business owners trusted her to repay the debts that are now over 60 days old? Take responsibility for your decisions Hilary.

Posted by: Patricia Brown, Rancho Santa Fe | July 21, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Mark Penn - never - not a cent.
Clintons - nope - they should be like Romney and not ask for repayment of personal loans.
Vendors who have been stiffed (at least for the time being) - yes - I would send money to small business vendors who have not been paid. It is not their fault that the Clinton campaign so badly handled their finances. As a Democrat I believe we do need to help these vendors out.
I am only a small monthly donor to Obama, with some donations to the DNC and Senate and House 2008 election funds. I am a senior on a fixed, limited income, but this election is probably the most important one of my lifetime. I will go without to be able to contibute to elect Obama and get veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate.
If the Clinton campaign or better yet the DNC could set up a way to contribute to pay off vendors/small businesses that are owed money by the Clinton's, I would contribute. I sent the Clinton campaign $25.00 when Obama asked us to help, but I won't send again unless I am assured that it will not go to Mark Penn or the Clintons.

Posted by: oldlakelady | July 21, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"I guess it worked because she ended up with more votes than any other candidate"
==========
Really? Except that the Nominee is elected by having the most delegates, and NOT by popular Vote. Hard to believe that a woman as Bright as Clinton failed to understand that....then again it SOUNDS good, it doesn't mean squat, but if it gives you NOBAMA people comfort...hey why don't you lot pay off her debt? I note that Obama got over 50 million in donations in June (oops, I forgot, he nicked the election, LOL.)

Posted by: GObama | July 21, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I am shocked and saddened to learn that The Clinton's owe a pizza business $6,000. I know what it's like to be a small business owner and have a large corporation deliberately not pay their bills, hoping to force you into bankruptcy so they can " legally " skate. I lost my house in the '80's this way. Where is Randy Billy during all of this ? In the Bahamas at the wedding of Greg Norman and Chris Evert. Think he AND HIS STAFF flew commercial ? So much for their green concerns. Hilary lost because she never made the case of what she was going to do with Bill, The Problem Child, once elected.I voted for the guy, reluctantly, twice(Bob Dole ??)but exposure has taught me to never trust ANY Clinton again. She has about, what, six weeks before she has to eat the loss ? Bet they won't be taking her house. Don't worry, The Clinton's are doing just fine eating cake, thank you.

Posted by: Derek Fontana | July 21, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Stupidity, avarice, arrogance, hubris, self-centered narcissistic tendency, shallow backward-looking misreading of the public, sense of entitlement, devious low-minded viciousness, profligate mismanagement, ... all those were character traits displayed by the Clinton campaign and by the Clintons themselves.

Now, those are difficult in an adversary -- VERY DIFFICULT to overcome by magnanimity on the part of Obama. But NELSON MANDELA has shown the world how truth and reconciliation can and does actually work to raise the standards of behavior and consciousness of everybody, among friends and bitter foes. ... and the world honors such a truly noble man of wisdom and principles !!!

Posted by: Chopin | July 21, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"She's a tiger, gives guidance, good advise, strengthens his limp wrist.

She will be the best thing this country can do, to recoup the graces of the world. Do not hesitate"

Posted by: Denver Manly

"Manly"--if that's not a cover story... What "guidance, good advise [sic]" can a spendthrift who lost an insurmountable lead give the winner of the contest? She's out begging him to help her, after trashing him and piling on. And her supporters--are they insane?--who won't or can't pay off her debt, are angry at him for not pulling her out of bankruptcy, although her personal assets are about fifty times his. Americans seem to love being rooked. First George the Clown Bush, now a person who couldn't run her own campaign asking to be bailed out of her own profligacy.

Posted by: edwcorey | July 21, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Mark Penn is owed $5 million. For what, being a fat ugly disgusting and most of all, useless loser?

That debt should be between Hil and Mark. Let her pay in kind.

Posted by: jeffp | July 21, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I feel bad for the vendors she bilked. I bet that pizza place in Pennsylvania could really use that money, as well as all the other small vendors whose lives depend on events like this.

She does not deserve to serve in public office in any capacity. She, who cares about hard working Americans. Right.

Posted by: Susan | July 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

If this is the way she spends her money, just think what would have happened if it had been your tax dollars or mine in 2009!
Fiscal responsibility as an individual is paramount....fiscal planning and responsibility as demonstrated in the past seven and a half years is NOT a model to be emulated in future years. The kid must have never been able to balance his checkbook, if he had one.

Posted by: Orcaman | July 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Hillary had to spend the money that she did to compete with the bias news coverage that Obambi the inexperienced was receiving. I guess it worked because she ended up with more votes than any other candidate. Don't worry her supporters are helping to pay off her debt... check back at the end of the month.

Clinton 2012!

Posted by: PaulPress | July 21, 2008 6:34 AM
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PaulPress, you definitely did not read the entire post. Hillary raised $2.7 million in June! Hillary is not going to keep raising more than this. In fact, I suspect Hillary will raise about $1.2 million in July. If she is not the Democratic nominee for VP, she will raise about $500,000 in August.

There is no way Hillary will raise $12 million for her debtors by year-end especially when half her debt is owed to Mark Penn.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 21, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Leon, you need to get your facts straight. No one exploited the caucus system. All the Obama camp did was participate in the caucus system as it was developed. Sen Clinton could have done the same if her campaign strategist Mark Penn had understood the system and realized he needed to have Sen Clinton participate in it. Indeed, Clinton should have known how to engage the caucus system as well, since she had been through it with her husband. The problem is she failed to do so, because she believed she would not need the caucus states.

Your Michigan/Florida arguments are old hat. Sen Clinton supported the DNC's position on these two states until she decided she needed them to be treated differently. That is called changing the rules in the middle of the game to suit one's own ends. Is that what you think is the Democratic way? Moroeover, the Clinton campaign can never legitimately claim winning the popular vote until they can tell us how to count the popular vote in caucus states. It is easy to claim victory when you change the rules (Florida and Michigan)or disregard those states that should be part of the population that make up the count with no solution on how to count them.

So, let's move on and decide do we want four more years of the last eight years of Bush or do you want change. Sen Clinton says she wants change. Will you honor her by voting for change, or will you disrespect her call to you and vote for more of the same? The choice is yours.

Just remember, your vote will impact the health care, war status and economic and supreme court direction of this nation. They will in turn impact you and your family. Vote your best interest!

Posted by: Vgirl1 | July 21, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

To person who posted to Obama-Junkie...

Hillary got herself into this bad debt. Hillary owes herself $13 million and has $12 million of debt!

Those candidates of the past who got help from the nominee in paying off their debts had small debt amounts of $500,000 to $2,000,000, not $25 million!

If you truly believe that paying off Hillary's debt is the way to go, then by all means sacrifice a day's worth of eating or a clothing item you want to buy and contribute to Hillary. Both Bill and Hillary earned nearly $110 million dollars over an 8-year period. Bill Clinton typically earns $10 to 20 million a year. The Clintons could pay off the debt themselves but don't want to waste their millions doing so. They would rather beg low-income and middle-income Americans to pay off her debt!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 21, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Veneita | July 21, 2008 4:25 AM
Posted by: Mel Goetia | July 21, 2008 5:16 AM

both very well said.

I was a Hillary supporter until Bill and South Carolina. I luved Bill, but my heart literally sank during this primary. State after state, it went downhill for me and the Clintons. I also believe Hillary is not Bill of the 90s. What happened to the Bill of the 90s?

Oh well, I'm independent now and try hard to stay open minded about both candidates until the debates, but I'm definitely leaning Obama.

So many people are losing their homes and jobs now. The economy is in the toilet for many. If hillary puts out a list of vendors, I'll send my money again to the vendor--not Mark Penn or the rich Clintons.

Hillary should NOT raise funds for Obama or the Senate, until she pays these people.

Posted by: RJII in DC | July 21, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Still waiting for the verb "lend" to come back into use. Guess these Ivy League educations don't cover the difference between verbs (to lend) and nouns (a loan).

Myself deplores what has happened to our language.

Woe is myself.

Posted by: MaryTru | July 21, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Soooo! Don't you have more important things to talk about. If Obama doesn't select Hillary as a running mate, he is a fool. She brings more to the table than he does, not her debt, but her voters...women, and I happen to be one of them.

Posted by: Luz | July 21, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Hillbot Leon.

Wow. Poor victim. One justification after another.

Please elaborate on two of your comments.

How did Obama exploited black voters in South? Do you think these blacks were uncapable of voting their minds?
Also, please further explain my woman/mother issues. I did NOT vote for Hillary, so I hate my mother. Why do you have to bring my wonderful mother, who just survived breast cancer, into this?

I've got alll day Hillbot. By the way, it's spelled Barack, not Barak.

Have you made a donation to Hillary today? I gave $25 two months ago for those out of luck vendors, but doubt they saw a dime of it.

Posted by: RJII in DC | July 21, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

ARE YOU SAYING HRC TOOK MONEY OWED OR DID SHE TACK ON AN ADDITIONAL 1 MILLION DOLLARS TO HER ALREADY HUGE DEBT.

I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN BILL AND HILLARY ARE NOT ON THE GOVERNMENT DOLE.

IF SHE HAD NOT CONTINUED WILDLY SPENDING MONEY IN THE LAST MONTH AND HALF OF THE PRIMARY AND SPENT IT ATTACKING OBAMA (I WAS GOING TO SAY PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE SYMPATHETIC, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE TRUE)

WHY DOES SHE NOT ASK HER 18 MILLION VOTERS TO RETIRE HER CAMPAIGN DEBT? HER 18 MILLION SUPPORTERS CONTINUE TO BLAME OBAMA FOR HER FAILURE TO WIN THE NOMINATION.

TO ALL CLINTON SUPPORTERS IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY HILLARY'S DEBT, AFTER ALL SHE DID FOR YOU. WHAT EXACTLY DID SHE DO FOR YOU?

Posted by: Karla M. McGowan | July 21, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

This constant drag of continual turmoil is one more example of the division and trouble that comes with the Clintons, who are experts at both. Chances are that the small vendor debts, from early in the campaign, have already been paid off or we would be hearing plenty about it. The big debts will be paid off by the bigger pockets - probably foreigners. Obama has done his part to the same extent that Hillary has done hers for him. Minimal. It shouldn't take an invitation by Obama for Hillary & Co. to support Obama by staying out of the news cycle, let him establish himself without their manipulations, and publically support his efforts to bring more political unity here and abroad than they could ever achieve.

Posted by: Lucy | July 21, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=aXLIlaf_2bbhd2AIUDxZkkIA_3d_3d

Posted by: KJ | July 21, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that Senator Clinton's personal debt is such a big issue with the main stream media, yet they barely mention the huge amount of personal debt incurred by Governot Mitt Romney in his GOP Primary? It couldn't be because she is a woman, right? Or a Clinton? Leave her alone! She has integrity and will repay her debts.

Posted by: mpwynn@spro.net | July 21, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous. The Clintons both have more money than they will ever need. Why are they scrounging for money from people who are hurt paying $5 a gallon for gas? Why pay losers like Penn and the political machine? I'd be more impressed with HRC if she had the sand to show up in person and pay that 6 grand pizza bill to someone who is trying to make ends meet running their own business. This is the disconnect that sank HRC as a candidate.

Posted by: Roci | July 21, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Excuse me, are the Latinos running your country, and if so you really screwed up. Open your borders already and rename America, and make Spanish the official language. Hillary lost, it is over.

Posted by: justadad55+ | July 21, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

OBAMOPATHS(RJ11 in DC)-

The point of the post was- your (now our) opportunistic candidate took political advantage of an archaic system (he won the delegate battle by winning caucus states like WY AND AK, where under 9500 people voted, by exploiting the black vote in the south where there are few white Dems and by working to prevent revotes in Florida and Michigan)- and by plastering her with all of the stereotypes of a powerful woman and she still got 50% of the vote and only 110 less pledged delegates...why should she have dropped out? Is it because the naked emporer should not have anyone question his lack of clothing or anything about him? As I stated before, Saint Edward the Kennedy had 600 delegates and took it to the 80 convention- thereby eliminating any chance Carter had of beating Reagan- and starting a 3 decade span where the only break we had was...The Clintons! yet he is idolized and his endorsement cherished. Is it because he has a Y choromosome?

As for Barak. It is all presentation with him. 52% of his money came from "bundlers" including the banking, healthcare and energy industry- which is maybe why he has such weak positions on all 3 issues- so when he forgoes public financing it is not to run the "peoples campaign. He is wrong on FISA now, switched positions on the death penalty, NAFTA/free trade, gun control, energy policy and even Iraq, which was always a false comparison between the candidtates-

If she still wants to be senator, and is not VP or supreme court justice at that point, she will be the NY senator. First of all she still polls 65% favorable in the black community. She polls well upstate. She is well liked in the city, where I live. She is popular in the Asian community, which is large, and in the Latin community, which is bigger than the black community here in NYS- so quit dismissing her- she is great= Resolve your issues with women/you mother with a therapist.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 7:36 AM | Report abuse

she s not a tiger she s a dike

Posted by: show me | July 21, 2008 6:34 AM | Report abuse

Clinton 2012!

Posted by: PaulPress | July 21, 2008 6:34 AM | Report abuse

So, her majesty owes $6,000 to a pizza company. Wow! Well, that's a small business person who has to dig into his/her own pocket to make payroll. Clap clap and then a tearful moment. Ms. Hillary is not "a force of nature" she is a caricature. If anything, she is a creature of the political machinery which Taxes the populous while it erodes confidence and stability. Mrs. Clinton's "say anything" approach to the primaries was her eventual undoing. Applause applause and then a spiteful reproach. She should have stepped aside. She could have bowed out gracefully and with honor. She did not. For the gal from Wellesley has no honor. She is a fragmentary remnant of the socialist mindset of her generation. So for today she can take her sweet time and let a bunch of "little people" sweat it out as to when they will see payment for their goods and services. What a leader!
This election will decide the future of our nation, our path, our course. Let us not forget that the computer voting machines are still out there - and you really didn't mean to vote for a Democrat. Did you? Do you have a printed receipt? Of course that is if we even make it to the General Election. Perhaps another "Pearl Harbor" type event will allow ol' Georgie to exercise some hidden codicil of the "Patriot Act" and suspend elections, indefinitely.
Along time ago, I came to the conclusion that if I could think of something, surely some think tank had already thought of it. I pray for our survival.
And for those supporters of Hillary who will not back the current candidate, who have threatened to vote for Tweedle McCain, I say, to hell with you! Your infantile rant of sexism is abhorrent to my soul. Your culture of victimization for victimization's sake is beyond the pale of reason. We live in a golden age of manipulation on all fronts and "take my ball and go home" stratagems will surely lead to the eventual death of our Liberty and Opportunity for generations to come. Good luck. Mel

Posted by: Mel Goetia | July 21, 2008 5:16 AM | Report abuse

WJC also alienated African Americans who favored her 60-30 last summer.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/17/poll.blacks.democrats/index.html

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/obama_clinton_among_africaname.php

One of HRC's biggest backers has said that it's time to move on.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/top_democratic_official_sends.php

So while you attack Obama and gear up for the website HRC2012.com, think about the 7 conservative majority on the supreme ct if mccain wins with no protection for reproductive rights, or gender equity.

But at least you one person on here will have a t-shirt.

HRC's problem in this campaign was a product of the sexism of her advisers. They wouldn't let her be a woman running for president. She had to out drink man and threaten to obliterate Iran. This image played into the perceptions that people had of her in 1992 and perceptions that continue to fuel the perception that she's a closeted lesbian.

As an outspoken woman, I know it comes with a cost. However, HRC might have kept black women if she spoke their language focuses on the challenges of being a working woman which most black women are. That could have been her margin of victory.

Instead she had to talk about some non-existent test that the two white people passed (that's how we black folks saw it). She showed us something in her we didn't know and we didn't like.

All the sympathy for her and admiration for her that I developed in the aftermath of the cigar incident vanished, not because Obama is black but because from financial mismanagement to speaking to disfranchising workers in NV, to everything else, she played the game to much like a republican.

Now with the heat of the campaign over, she can vote the right way on FISA--a way she couldn't risk voting on the Iraq war, which has left over 4,000 dead and thousands more wounded.

Like Al Gore, losing has made her a better candidate than winning ever could.

Posted by: Veneita | July 21, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

Will is an HRC supporter and provides no links neutral (incidentally, hiring folks from the losing campaign is tradition. If Obama wanted to stick his thumb in HRC's eye, he would have hired Solis Doyle before HRC withdrew.)

HRC sold her donor list BTW http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18958566

how many perves could there be that would want a women's pant suit with an unusual bulge. sexist but one of her own supporters first suggested she had a package http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/hillarys-testicular-forti_n_99508.html

Sexism 5 non-sexism 8

"you whiny bastards need to grow up and live to fight another day" not sexist but rude.

Sexism 5 non-sexism 9

"Hillary should have been a man she clearly has more balls than all the male readers of this blog" sexist, compliment?

Sexism 6 non-sexism 9

Posted by: Veneita | July 21, 2008 4:11 AM | Report abuse

If Obama is to be blamed for the sexist comments of supporters he's never met (can it even be proven because some person writes on this blog that they actually support Obama and are not part of "operation chaos" who make these comments to keep Dems divided?), then HRC certainly must accept the blame for WJC's asinine behavior on the campaign trail. He uttered one of the most sexist things I ever heard http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/07/watch-bill-clinton-says-_n_80231.html about a woman who gave him her wholehearted support in the prime of her career (like when he was 46 and running for president) and he brings up, not pantsuits, but her age and people laughed. That's sexism.

As I looked down these posts to find sexism I noticed that many of these comments are by people whose names sound like Bart Simpson calling and asking for someone at Moe's bar:

"fricking money grubber" . . . no that could apply to a man."

"hope this is reported as a bad debt" . . . no that's not sexist.

"spending like a drunken sailor" . . . no sexism there.

"women who will vote for mccain are racists" . . . that's racism not sexism and it's not about HRC

"rich college professor" paying $5 40 times. clearly you don't know what we college profs made. I've given Obama $0 because I can't afford it. I would like to give you spelling lessons though.

"one scary broad" that's sexist.

Sexism 1 non-sexism 5

"if he chooses that bit*h to run with him." definitely sexist

Sexism 2 non-sexism 5

RFK Death threat, bilking small vendors not sexist.

"divisive candidate" not sexist

Sexism 2 non-sexism 7

Shrew sexist

Sexism 3 non-sexism 7

racebaiter not sexist

Sexism 3 non-sexism 8

$4 million on pantsuits marginally sexist

Sexism 4.5 non-sexism 8

continued

Posted by: Veneita | July 21, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse

HRC is not in debt because of sexism, she is in debt because of financial mismanagement: $6,000 for pizza, $1,800 for Dunkin Donuts. Her inability to manage, or hire people who could have managed, her campaign finances effectively offers a window into her leadership on the economy.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8619.html

At least she has her priorities right and is paying back the little people first.

Posted by: Veneita | July 21, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

If everyone these days gets 10 seconds in the sun, then why not me. This will end with T.

O.U.C.H.

D
O
W
not! McCain/? Obama/? Nader/Gonzales '08!

Posted by: Psy13 | July 21, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Helen | July 21, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Hillary and 27 other brave Senators voted against FISA. Obama voted with Bush and Republicans.

She could sue CNN for that amount for their insulting bias remarks and win in any court.

So today folks .....
I clicked //////HillaryClinton.com and proudly bought the Tee Shirt!

If Obama has her for VP, then and only then, will he be able to win in November. She's a tiger, gives guidance, good advise, strengthens his limp wrist.

She will be the best thing this country can do, to recoup the graces of the world. Do not hesitate

Posted by: Denver Manly | July 21, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

These hate-filled, sexist comments are the very reason I will never give my support to Obama. I don't want anything to do with a candidate or a party that is so mean-spirited and demeaning of another candidate from the same party no less. You Obama supporters need to get over yourselves. You won! What are you afraid of - losing in November? You should be. The negative comments and name-calling just make the divide between us that much wider and harder to bridge.

Posted by: dwilson | July 21, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

When Sen. Clinton lost NC everyone was screaming for her to get out of the race telling her she had NO chance of winning, she said "Why sould I get out RFK was not assiassinated until June" another times "she said mericales can happen, again and again she said she had a suprise, After PENN. her camp, said she raised 10M$$$ in one night another snipper fire story, Sen, Clinton had every chance get out of this race instead she ran up this 26M$$ debt with all her experience and god judgement. The Clinton's are worth over a 100M$$$ they are not surffering with $4.00 gasoline she can pay her debt off herself just like Mitt Romney is paying his Debt off.

Posted by: GTALKSPOLITICS | July 21, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

I will not help Clinton pay off her debts. All of my support goes to Sen. Obama.

Posted by: Jason Hussein | July 21, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Look Bill is "RICH" and he is on his way the joining the "Billionaires for Bush Club" So he needs the money back Instead of crying Bill should just go out and make it up, by talking a whole lot more. Their are many,many "RICH RLITE FOOLS" who will be more than happy to pay bucks to hear him talk or go into business deals with him. So Bill get off your duff and start making bucks and cancel the loan like Mitt has.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | July 21, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

The more Hillary is attacked by "us" "progressives" the more I admire her. The sexism of you sob's is unbelievable.

Hillary should have been a man she clearly has more balls than all the male readers of this blog - ME included. Hillary is a freakin' force of nature and fought tooth and nail till the end and beyond. She is an American hero - Hillary I love you - an' I'm an Obama supporter.

But NONE of THIS S*IT MATTERS - if we don't get a Democrat in the White House we lose the Supreme Court for at least a generation. FISA becomes just the first in what will be an ongoing rape of the Constitution - women will lose the right to control their own bodies functions - there is WAY TOO MUCH AT STAKE for us to fight each other. The only way we can lose this thing now is to be divided. For the sake of God lets eat our babies AFTER we bury McSame in the dustbin of history with the rest of the Neocons.

Posted by: Mylegacy | July 21, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

But come ON you guys. He DID ask his people to give her money, but we don't want to. The Clintons have WAY more money than me. Let them pay their own debts. She and/or Bill can do a book. He can do some paid speeches. They could cameo in a few movies. WTF. Money can fall in their laps in a million different ways. She was out way before she dropped out. We always knew she'd win the states she won and it was never going to be enough once the Potomac Primary results were in. She chose to stay in anyway, and she can bail herself out. Her supporters are supposed to give to Obama b/c they are Democrats and he is the Democratic nominee. Do you guys want 4 more years of Bush policies with McBush?

In 2004, alot of us who back Obama backed Dean. He was mistreated by the mainstream Dem candidates, Kerry and Gephardt. He was abused by the media. But we got in line and worked for Kerry even tho we couldn't stand the sight of him because the country needed rid of Bush.

I don't hate Hillary at all. But you whiny bastards need to grow up and live to fight another day. It's NOT ALL ABOUT YOU! People DIE EVERY DAY because Republicans hold the WH. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: Not a Hillary Hater | July 21, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I think Barack Obama's supporters have paid enough on her debts. I am one of those people and I've already sent her a small donation to help retire her debts. I will not send her another cent. Mrs. Clinton is on her own now...we didn't help build up this debt, but we've helped her pay off some of it. Barack asked us to help her and we did, but we should not be expected to pay it all.

Posted by: AllAmerican61 | July 21, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

i don't donate my hard-earned dollars to obama to pay off hillary's pantsuit debt. last i heard, her and slick-willy had 110 million big ones. let her pay off her own godamned debt. and that pig, mark penn, should, and will, rot in hell. she paid that maggot 10 million for his putrid, stinking advice to "go dirty." let the 'tards over at puma pay off her debt.

Posted by: manny | July 21, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Hillbots (Leon),
don't you think a candidate should stop his or her campaign once it goes in the red, say...when they owe numerous businesses in every state a total $10 million or more. It should be illegal or at least a DNC punishment.

Whatever. Reality is that barely anyone is bailing her out.

Also, I believe NY has buyers remorse and won't vote for her in 2012. She has a lot of work to do and bills to pay.

Since I'm NOT a delusional, "hardworking" white, blue collar, uneducated, sexist,
my vote is NOT one red cent.

Posted by: RJII in DC | July 21, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Will, you sound bitter. and transgendered.

Posted by: jakeD's shadow | July 21, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Clinton supporters. I heard she spent $4M on pant suits. Maybe she can take them back to fashion bug for store credit.

Posted by: FACE | July 21, 2008 12:32 AM

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not with the size of that cookie cutter, either that or there really was something to that "tail" rumour. Anyway, extraordinary wear and tear beyond normal use would negate the Store Credit possibility. Maybe Ebay, but I'm thinking how many perves could there be that would want a women's pant suit with an unusual bulge.

Posted by: Montgomery "Monty" Burns | July 21, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

To Rachel: If Obama wanted hillary to be VP he wouldn't be not helping her pay her debt.

He has done everything possible to not help her pay her debt.

He wants her supporters who have maxed out to also max out to him but he doesn't want his supporters to pay off her debt.

His finance team are sending out e-mails asking for money specifically saying in bold letters no money will go to Hillary.

It is a shame because Hillary got more votes. It was the DNC and the superdelegates that were the sham.

Hillary won the real election the texas primary but then she loses a joke texas caucus.

Obama wouldn't have another election in michigan and florida.

Hillary was robbed and by not supporting her being the nominee you are helping the Olbermann's and Dean's of the world corrupt the system.

She should be the nominee no one else.

Posted by: Will | July 21, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

To Rachel Rodham: Hillary will never be VP.

Obama wouldn't even hand over his donor list to her. She still has millions to small vendors to pay and he still wouldn't hand it over.

Obama fundraisers are saying specifically they wouldn't raise money for her.

Obama said he also couldn't have her because of Bill Clinton's past.

Obama said she was likable enough.

Obama said the claws were coming out.

Obama compared her foreign policy experience to having tea with foreign leaders.

Obama campaign blamed her partly for the death of Bhutto.

Obama campared her to Jesse Jackson for trying to take it to the convention.

Obama campaign sent a 4 page memo playing the race card agaisnt the Clintons.

Obama hired Patti Doyle who was fired from the Clinton campaign.

Clinton will never be the VP.

Posted by: Will | July 21, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Clinton supporters. I heard she spent $4M on pant suits. Maybe she can take them back to fashion bug for store credit.

Posted by: FACE | July 21, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is a great lady.

Posted by: Sam I am firstman | July 21, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

people would be foolish to allow HRC to reprogram money designated for the General into a Senate campaign. She has lost the black vote. She needs to quietly signal she will not be running for re-election to allow new blood, again she has lost the black vote and will be beat in the Primary. She has already proved she is a race baiter, to allow her to bring her divisive tactics to New York is a monstrosity in the making.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | July 21, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

I see that Romney is writing off something like $48 Million. Why Rodham Clinton with her $110 Million in an Off Shore, Non-Tax paying, Commodity Hedge Fund can easily afford to write off 10%, and help the Democratic Party by not competing during a General Election with so much at stake. Pathetic. I blame New York for foisting this Shrew on the political process.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | July 21, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Where is PUMA?

Where is the "hardworking Americans, white Americans"?

Where are the people in KY and WV who overwhelmingly voted for Hillary?

Where is Harriot Christian who called Barack Obama the "inadequate black man"?

Where are those so callled "18 million" supporters?

Why aren't these people bail out their favorite candidate?

Her continued money problem tells me that PUMA and other Hillary supporters are really republicans in disguise.

Posted by: Joe Liebermann | July 21, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

HELLO

SAINT EDWARD KENNEDY STAYED IN THE RACE UNTIL THE CONVENTION IN 1980 WITH ALL OF 600 DELEGATES- THEN HE WEAKLY ENDORSED CARTER AND SNUBBED HIM AT THE CONVENTION- all of your bs about "death threats"- it was clearly a reference and not a threat of any type, etc.---all of the efforts to push her out (which eventually worked- making her look like she was desperately hanging on - THE SAME TACTIC W USED ON GORE) is all the HATE of a powerful woman that Obama capitalized on (along with getting rich college kids to vote for him in caucus states and winning 92% of AA vote in states where AA make up the majority of Dems in the south)in order to get the nomination. She's gotten out, endorsed and fund raised for Barak. You can stop your ridiculous hatred of the candidate who had the more ambitously progressive stances and policy proposals- one's she couldn't have just backed out of like someone else. I am supporting the naked emporer, but his supporters are the most arrogant, self-righteous bunch of no-nothing children I have experienced in my 24 years of working within the Dem. party. Their blind following and willingness to throw heroes like Jesse Jackson "under the bus" is disgusting.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I am not giving Hillary a dime. She was and is the most divisive candidate I know. She stayed in the race long after she knew she couldn't win simply to attack Obama. The republicans and elderly mccain attacks against Senator Obama stem from what Hillary said in the primary such as:
He's inexperienced--lies
He hasn't attended or called for any committee meeting on Afghanistan...which was lie. Biden is in charge of the overall committee and called meetings because the situation in Afghan has worsened so...Obama attended majority of those committee meetings. Obama was in charge of the Afghan subcom under Biden's leadership.
He is getting more and favorable media attention...
The list goes on and on...

Frankly, I feel betrayed and embarrassed that I voted for the Clintons in he past. I know my grandmothers would feel the same if they were alive today...The way they behaved and still are behaving this election season has revealed their true nature.

I didn't vote for Hillary this primary season, and I will never vote for a Clinton again 2012 or any other time.

Posted by: Sheryl | July 21, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary's 18 million supporters who voted for her and supported her decision to stay in the race contributed $1.50 each to her campaign, she would have more than enough to pay off her debt. Frankly, I am appalled and very tired of hearing about Hillary's debt and the ridiculous assumption that Senator Obama's supporters should retire this debt. Senator Clinton made the decision to continue her compaign beyond the point when there was no statistical way she could win the primary. Also, her campaign exemplified poor judgement by not paying bills monthly and stiffing local vendors whom she continually espoused to support (white working class citizens). Expenditures like separate planes for reporters and $6000 on pizzas are just two examples of misuse of campaign funds. There are many more examples of extravagance throughout the campaign.
Please MSM, stop reporting about Hillary's campaign debt. And if you must, please put the responsibility for retiring this debt where it belongs, and that is with Hillary.

Posted by: eb | July 20, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Her supporters said she is tough because she refused to drop out, even after the MI and FL fiasco and her RFK death threat on Obama in June.

That's not tough, that's foolish. SHe risked tearing the party apart, whilst knowingly bilking millions from small vendors.

Creditors would be hunting her down, except that she probably put the HRC campaign under some unknown s-corp.

Vendors should be suing her and the DNC should expunge her from the party for using the DNC brand to bilk people.

$21 million is the largest, most gross campaign debt in history tenfold. She sat there month after month, running up her credit cards when she knew she was broke. She even took from schools and universities.

Well, it's her debt and she should pay it. She has plenty of money to pay it easily. I will donate $25 to a vendor if a list comes out.

If she can't manage her campaign, how the heck can she manage the country. PUMAs my ass-- they need to get out their credit cards.

Posted by: RJII in DC | July 20, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

La la la la! Democrats so negative and hateful!!! I love it! You go Obamaphiles, rub Hillary's face in the dirt when she is down! Alienate half the party!!! Whoo HOOO I love it:)

Posted by: Chuckie | July 20, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Every time she announced that she was staying in the race, her supporters cheered. At the end of her announcements, she requested her supporters to go to her website and donate. Why did they not put their money where their cheers were?

Posted by: SMAC25 | July 20, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Hillary makes a bucket of money from speeches and graft...nevermind what her Bubba Boy makes for all those speeches he gives. I will give to Obama - but not one red cent if he chooses that bit*h to run with him.

Posted by: Uncle ReamedUs | July 20, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Hillary = one scary broad. remember she had Vince Foster murdered. I didn't vote for Obama so that Hillary could ascend the throne after assassinating Obama 2 weeks after he takes office!

Posted by: Ben Dover | July 20, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton for veep. She would have made the best president, and I am still sad she won't be the nominee. Let's hope for the Obama-Clinton ticket, which will stomp its way to the White House. I can't enthusiastically participate in politics this year unless Hillary Clinton is on the ticket.

Posted by: Rachel Rodham "Proud American" Smith | July 20, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Give it up. Your guy won. Your hatred for Hillary is illogical. Every losing candidate has campaign debt, and the winning candidate helps. The fact Obama has done so little is appalling.

If you say "Hillary is on her own," then guess what? So is Obama? Those big donors that maxed out for Hillary better got give him one cent. I'm one of the small Hillary donors. I'm not a wealthy professor who can give $5 increments 40 times to a candidate like Obama was able to get. I gave HRC all I could afford, $25.

But if she is on her own, than so is Barack. I'm not voting for someone who has done so little to help this candidate. In '88, Dukakis helped Jackson with debt. Same for '84 with Mondale and Hart. Why is Obama doing such a poor job helping her out?

Posted by: To Obama-Junkie | July 20, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

THE TRAIL.

Thank you for this info. We have, over the past few weeks, heard about Hillary's debt being over $20million, but we had to guess as to who the creditors were.

Now with your report, we can see that Hillary owes herself $13million+, and Mark Penn $5million+. Why won't Hillary post these figures on her websites?

If the above is accurate, I am sure that Hillary's 18million supporters, can afford to donate $0.50 (yes that is correct just fifty cents) per supporter will enable Hillary to pay off her miscellaneous debts!

Whether her supporters are prepared to pay off Mark Penn is questionable at best, and why should they be expected to reimburse Hillary for her personal loans?

In business if you make irresponsible loans and these loans cannot be repaid, you have to chalk this up to some one's inexperience, and you have to suck it up and write it off as a BAD DEBT. Hillary's loan to her campaign is no different, except it is not clear whether she can write it off as a Bad Debt!

Twist it or turn it however you want, why in the name of logic, should Barack's Supporters be expected to pay off Hillary's Debt?

Hillary was running at the request of her so-called supporters, she was NOT running to help BARACK or HIS SUPPORTERS, therefore Hillary supporters, it is time for you to put your money where your mouth is!

Posted by: Ilona Hussein Proud Canadian | July 20, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and Bill still have $110 million that they amassed after getting out of office in 2000. So why can't Hillary pay her own frickin debt? She knew that she had lost in March. She kept on spending like a drunken sailor thinking that playing the race card would finally get her the nomination. You know - hardworking white people and playing the racist deck every chance she got. So why would Obama supporters want to bail her out now? For Christsakes, the women who will vote for McCain if not for Obama are racists in the first place. Why do they need appeasing anyway?

Grow up Hillary and write a check to yourself to pay yourself off. THAT would be a graceful thing for you to do at long last. You have more money in the bank that 99% of Obama supporters.

Posted by: Amy from Washington | July 20, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

She should post all of her debts on her website with links to each vendor. That way, people could pay the debts directly and help out these small businesses she totally bilked. I am sure that is a ton of money for that PA pizza shop, and it is so wrong for them to go unpaid.

And she wants the VP nod? What a crock.

Posted by: Susan | July 20, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

I hope this is reported on all three credit bureaus as bad debt. When mainstream America doesn't pay its debts after 30,60,90 days past due it is reported on our credit report. I hope this debt is reported as a charged off...
I couldn't imagine being more than 90 days late to my creditors without serious consequences...

Posted by: June | July 20, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, she should have been dropped out before she got in this debt

Posted by: ak | July 20, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

It was Clinton's campaign, so she is on her own nickel, as far as I am concerned. No fleecing the Party faithful, please!

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | July 20, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

So why not put web links to these vendors themselves. I'd contribute $25 if I knew it was NOT going to Mark Penn.

Posted by: Mia | July 20, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is on her own. As more details come out about Hillary's debt the more Obam-supporters are not going to be willing to repay Hillary's debts.

Hillary has $25 million in debts and loans of which she owes herself $13 million. That leaves $12 million of debt in which nearly half of that is owed to Mark Penn's firm. Mark Penn came up and supported some of the most negative tactics of the Hillary campaign, and now expects Obama supporters to pay him for it?!

Sorry Hillary I'm not paying for Mark Penn's services. The only thing I can say to Hillary is to ask Bill Clinton to pay off Mark Penn. My limited resources are going towards Barack Obama!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 20, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

what a frickin money grubber. Serves her right, should have dropped out in March.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | July 20, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

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