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Gov. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) brushed aside reports, such as this story in today's The Washington Post, that he is on a "very, very short list" of vice presidential possibilities for Sen. Barack Obama. Kaine spoke after a monthly interview with Washington D.C. based radio station, WTOP. (Video by Emily Freifeld / washingtonpost.com)

Updated 1:14 p.m.
By Michael D. Shear
Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine refused to discuss his conversations with Barack Obama's campaign in the wake of a story in this morning's Washington Post that said he is being seriously considered as Obama's running mate.

"My conversations with the campaign stay with the campaign," he told reporters in Washington after appearing on WTOP's radio program.

"I signed on to help him. I wanna help him. I think the best place I can help him is right in Virginia."

Asked whether he wants to be vice president, he demurred.

"I haven't sought it. I'm not running for it. I'm not asking for it. I've never asked anything of the campaign," he said.

As reported in the Post, Kaine is one of several politicians being vetted by Obama's campaign, and has told associates that the discussions are "very serious."

But as is traditional, Kaine this morning sought to avoid looking eager for the position, saying repeatedly on WTOP and afterward that he expects to campaign for Obama in Virginia.

And if there was any doubt about whether that message was getting through in English, he tried another way when a journalist asked him whether he wanted to be "number 2" in Spanish.

"No soy un candidato por nada," he said, "ahorita" -- right now.

Meanwhile, though, national Republicans already began stirring the pot, noting to reporters that an Obama-Kaine ticket might be described as "the most inexperienced ticket in the history of the world."

And one GOP operative had already begun combing through Kaine's background, reminding this reporter of a brief controversy during Kaine's tenure, in which a member of the state's immigration commission was forced to resign after denouncing Israel and calling it
a "war machine."

By Ed O'Keefe  |  July 29, 2008; 12:31 PM ET
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Posted by: sofojjk | July 31, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

AlexP1:

OK, thanks, just checking.

P.S. to abe:

Barack Hussein Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | July 31, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

LOL, AlexP1. You do realize that OBAMA -- not McCain -- is supposedly considering Kaine, right?
Posted by: JakeD
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Yes I do know that....duhhhhhh
This Kaine guy is boring makes McCain seem interesting ...and as I have said before..
BAD CHOICE!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

LOL, AlexP1. You do realize that OBAMA -- not McCain -- is supposedly considering Kaine, right?
Posted by: JakeD
=========================================
Yes I do know that....duhhhhhh
This Kaine guy is boring makes McCain seem interesting ...and as I have said before..
BAD CHOICE!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

As a Va. resident, I must say that Tim Kaine may be the most boring Governor I've ever seen.

Posted by: Steve Wilson | July 30, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain supporters are intimidated by Barack Obama. They fear change, especially when it will show how poorly their party has done in office. They also fear the fact that he is not bitter and jaded like the republican party! He is fresh, with ideas and honest plans, something foreign to them. Kaine may be inexperienced to a degree, but he will compliment the untainted passion of Barack Obama!

Posted by: Amanda B. | July 30, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

It seems clear that given the amount of leaking on this story, and the fact that Kaine is actually somewhat moderate on some issues, this is a trial balloon.

Obama wants to see if the far left pitches a fit about Kaine. If they do, no Obama-Kaine ticket, if they don't, Kaine is in.

That's from Not WRIGHT for America (www.notwrightforamerica.com), and it makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Gypsy Man | July 30, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse

This one's easy.
Find a Communist Armani suit model that has been living on Perrier water, Tic Tacs and cocaine with Mickey Mouse ears and buck teeth and you'll have a matched set.

Posted by: rtfanning | July 30, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Gov. Kaine = great choice.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Is this even relevant? I mean Obama is a joke. He is so green he looks like Kermit the Frog. He doesn't know what he is doing. He needs 300 advisers to help him. And they are helping him be someone he isn't. And then he enlists Kaine who hasn't even done the job he currently has. What a losing ticket this is . . . despite the hoopla the liberal media is creating. This is such a waste of resources and time. Why are liberals so desperate? I thought they controlled both houses of Congress. But they are still so insecure that they have to resort to such public manipulation. Sad. Very sad.

Posted by: Fightertom34 | July 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. Okay 4U.

Take a look at McCain lately? He looks like an undertaker selling burial sites.

McCain is ODD. In both appearance and character. He walks around with that unsettling, phony smile like he could be somewhere else.

He's mean. Ill tempered. and just plain ODD.

Kaine seems to always be in a good mood. A sense of humor. Whereas McCain's humor comes from singing his favorite song "BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN". or suggesting with the popularity of cigarettes in Iran maybe it would kill them. Not funny. But Im sure that in his ODD world it tickles him to no end.

ODD. For all to see.

And SoCal

I know that given the opportunity to get anyone else but McCain, say if he dropped out, you and others of your ilk would be dancing in the streets. There's no enthusiasm at all for McCain or whoever else you support.

While we OBAMA supporters are FAR and WIDE and are ready to vote OBAMA as our next President. We are ready. Are you?

Where is the enthusiasm for McCain?

none.

He is just to damn ODD for this country to take a chance like this.

Posted by: llewis40 | July 29, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Next.. | July 29, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse


"We can use the military to help the poor." Sam Nunn, Georgia's favorite Man, envisioned this far reaching method for improving the human condition.

When the "Cold War" was concluding and the big question of what to do with our huge military/industrial complex came to Senator Nunn, He said: "We can use the military to help the poor." Well the Empire Builder crowd went nuts and stopped any such effort.

Hosea Williams, Dr. King's right hand man, so believed in Sam Nunn he campaigned for a Nunn/Bentsen ticket in 92. Imagine! Had Rev. Williams had his way, today we would be 16 years stronger. But, no, instead we got 16 years of Clinton and Bush.

Then, after all seemed lost, the "Obama Phenomena," so it may not be over after all. With Sam Nunn as President Obama's Vice President, our country can find our way to peace while utilizing the military/industrialist for sustaining life. Rather than: spending such massive effort and treasure on killing our fellow human beings. This is the positive way to end the reign of the Empire Builders now commanding the U.S. military.

Vote Obama/Nunn. And, the world can, at long last, give peace a chance.

Posted by: Steve Swimmer | July 29, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Kaine is "butt ugly" as the kids say. He is weird looking, the eyes and hair? He really creeps my out. So far, Obama's choices are really lame. Obama himself is lame. The Democrats MUST do better than this.

Obama is unqualified and unelectable. Kaine brings NOTHING to the ticket, let alone Virginia. LOL

The Democrats can rectify this awful situation they find themselves in (where is the Obama bump? He should be at least 15 points ahead at this time.

The DNC must allow Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to be placed in nomination at the DNC convention in late August. Neither Hillary or Obama earned enough delegates outright to secure the nomination so the superdelegates will decide this nomination at the actual DNC convention when the actual vote is cast. The DNC must allow BOTH names on the ballot, allow speeches by and for BOTH Hillary and Obama, allow votes to be cast and gasp, COUNT ALL THE VOTES! That's the real democratic process. ANything less is a fix.

In 1932 FDR came into the convention with 90 delegates short of the needed number and won the 4th ballot! That was democracy in action! That's the way is should be done.

Call, write the DNC and DEMAND DEMOCRACY!

You Dems want to win? You've got to throw Obama under the already crowded bus with the rest of his nasty pals....

Country first, party second.

It's Hillary or McCain.

Posted by: 4U | July 29, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a joke and a fraud. America is finally beginning to look past all the media hype and hoopla. Awake from the fog, and see the complete lack of substance.

Come November, Obama is gonna get creamed.

Now, I'll wait for the throng of comments by Obamabots and fanatics. For those working on his campaign, coming up with a hundred different aliases to create the perception that there are more Obama supporters simply is not going to work. I'm sure you'll try harder, but not everyone in America is an idiot like you.

Posted by: SoCaL | July 29, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants to win. Winning is what matters to him. He will select Hillary in the end! He cannot win with light weights like Kaine.

Posted by: ithinker | July 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the potential to run a country like the U.S. as well as any other country in the world. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONKKYnFFemY

Posted by: Real Brave Audio | July 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Well said Chris London. The facts are all out there it's too bad the mainstream media refuses to report on it.

Posted by: Matt | July 29, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

People should keep in mind that "strategery" will come in play with the selection. Not thrilled with the choice but I honestly do not think it matters. McSame has no chance of being elected at this point. Most people could care less if he was a war hero (which is so untrue it makes me laugh, they actually tried to throw him out of the military before Vietnam). We want a government that cares about the people here in America. I could care less about Israel, terrorism, abortions, gun rights, gay marriage ect. and I believe most people under 60 feel the same way. Besides a good chunk (1-3%) of McSames supporters will be dead by the general election. I lost both my grandparents this year and they were McSame supporters, so multiply that across the country. Only bible thumpers, the ultra rich, and dinosaurs are voting for the GOP.

Posted by: Matt | July 29, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes experience inhibits an open mind. Obama is not yet the official candidate and already has brought about major policy shifts.

http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/change-its-happening/

Posted by: European_Elitist | July 29, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe there are still women who are pushing Hillary. It must be a femi-nazi or lesbo thing. Get over it already. She can't even pay her bills right now, let alone put together an attempt to thwart the will of the American people.

Posted by: Matt | July 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain after Bush is sadly looking a rerun of Dumb and Dumber. I know Bush wasn't at the top of his class but he wasn't fourth from the bottom either. McCain's temper isn't what we need either.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | July 29, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

obama is gonna win period

Posted by: abe | July 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

McCain's lack of intellectual curiousity has been well documented although often ignored by handlers and friends in the media who are more consumed with the he selling of John McCain, the "Maverick" "War Hero" and Naval Aviator with the result that many perceive him as the Top Gun character Tom Cruise played, come to life. McCain's legend is Fiction. "WAR HEROES" do not run around telling anyone and everyone that they can find how how damn heroic that they are. Do they? Ever listen to Bruce Springsteen's Song Glory Days? Heroes do not live to tell tall tales. Myths do. Heroes die. Liars never tell you how they graduated 4th from the bottom of their class at the Naval Academy, how their legacy admission is the only reason they were not expelled or that they were never promoted to Admiral because McCain spent more of his time behind a bar stool than studying was of low intellect, had little if any intellectual curiousity about flight plan preparation, crashed numerous military aircraft and was hardly viewed by anyone at the Naval Academy as a serious Naval Aviator. In fact, he was more enamored with the title "Naval Aviator" than doing the necessary work and preparation to become a proficient pilot. Wesley Clark was right when he said that John McCain being shot down and tortured hardly makes him qualified or an expert in military matters but his age, temperment and inability to remember simple facts call into question whether John McCain is truly whole or has long been suffering from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) which 9/10 captured in Vietname suffered from. Ironically, once again, the internet, the central communications tool of our time and a veritable cultural movement, and McCain once again simply has little need for it and states that he needs assistants to get him online. Are we to hope as Americans that the things John McCain becomes proficient at understanding are those things central to the lives of real Americans? 72 years old is hardly the time for a leopard to change its spots.

Posted by: Christopher London | July 29, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

".....John McCain is presidential material because he wears a Navy cap."

Hey, I sometimes wear my 101st Airborne cap, and no one salutes...

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Posted by: solodsmyf | July 29, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

The country has learned plenty about having an experienced vice president and Cheney is more responsible for getting us into Iraq than Bush is and he was the orchestrator of the deceit and lack of transparency that is the hallmark of the Bush years.

What you in your "wealthy" position fail to realize is that many of us are less secure today than two years ago and four or eight years ago and that the direction of that security is down. We need leadership and policy and clear ideas of where this country is heading. That has to be in a different direction. John McCain can not define what a victory looks like and was called for that by NYT op-ed department. Rather than tell the troops and the Americain people he picked up his chips and stomped off. If he does not know what victory looks like than how does he know that victory is not now, as thing stand.

Obama has argued since the beginning of this campaign for a mid east policy that the Bush administration has been taking on in the last few months. The mid east policy leader is Obama and he is doing it at the same time as he does not interfere with government policy.

The only progress that Bush has made has been when he changed Defense Secretaries and developed policy that was not so Cheney dominated. So if Cheney is your example of what experience brings the American people do not need that.

Obama will be doing the American people a favor if he ignores the petty politics that you so ably advocate for and chooses the candidate that he trusts to help lead the country and forget about the considerations you speak of. Kaine was a very early supporter, and if that is an indication of a similar political philosophy then Kaine is a good choice assuming he passes the vetting. Some of the top names on the list that the press publishes do not have the required personal characteristics for Obama. The question is, does Kaine? I have no idea.

Who in G/d's name do you think you are judging whether Obama made a mistake or not in Germany. You and all who write about this incident do not know what conversation was held. between Obama and the Pentagon.

Obama has already proved he cared more about the long term welfare of those troops than McCain when he left an active campaign against Hillary Clinton to vote in Washington for increased veteran bnefits. McCain was too preoccupied running against no one to show up in Washington to vote.

With your petty way of looking at things you think John McCain is presidential material because he wears a Navy cap. To me it looks like a man who does not behave presidential and is clinging to that prop to show his substance.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse


THE UNDECIDED (SILENT)IN THE POLLS:

Obama's background (friends with Ayers (an unrepentant terrorist) and the anti-American racist and Farrakhan supporter Wright cause concern. That along with his father being muslim and his writings in his books make many wonder if he has changed his muslim leanings and/or ties. This will be a factor among the "silent or undecided" in today's polls, along the lines of the "Bradley effect".

Posted by: Billw | July 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama hurts himself by choosing Kaine or Bayh.

Here are his best chances.

1. Hillary
2. Gore
3. Biden
4. Sibelius
5. Rendell

Obama must fight against his hubris!

Posted by: Big Tom Kofax | July 29, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama-Junkie wrote: "When talk circulated last week that McCain would be making his choice for VP, names like Pawlenty, Jindal, and Romney were thrown around. I don't recall any national democrats "stirring the pot".
=======================================
Could be because they were all too busy watching BHO's world tour last week to even take notice.

My guess is, most Democrats are so confident of an Obama win...they don't really care who McCain picks for VP.

Posted by: NObama | July 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy that John McCain did NOTsupport the GI bill 2008. Soldiers are soldiers, they don't need extra pay, adequate health care or tuition reimbursement. John McCain only wants tough, dim-witted warriors in the US military. Don't ask John McCain, and don't tell John McCain that the new GI bill is a good thing. It's not!
John McCain wants to support the troops with low wages. That's good judgement.

Vote John McCain 2008.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | July 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah, Jake D.

It's drones like you that gave us so many messes this country now faces. Seriously, do you have even some semblance of a human soul?

I'm truly fed up with your fake outrage and your fake, self-serving patriotism.

Posted by: Amy | July 29, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

ManUnitdFan:

The Pentagon stated that Obama was welcome to visit the troops, just without his campaign entourage / media. Obama himself could have still gone, if he wanted to. Those are the facts.

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

JakeD's back. And there was much rejoicing.

The Pentagon wanted Obama not to visit the wounded troops, champ. It wasn't his decision. Please stop spitting out Republican talking points as if they're fact.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | July 29, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama-Junkie:

I'm not just referring to political experience (also, it's spelled JUDGMENT here in America, even on Obama's campaign site). Experience running ANYTHING and getting results matters, at least to those of us "likely voters" over the age of 21. JFK didn't have a lot of political experience but his military experience helped him.

Barack Hussein Obama is walking a dangerous tightrope -- whether he picks someone like Kaine with even less experience or someone who will outshine him on experience -- there's no getting around the FACT he is a 1st term Senator with no other real experience.

You should at least admit that Obama made a big mistake not going to visit wounded troops -- I think it's the turning point of the campaign -- we'll all see soon enough.

Paul:

McCain has been running for President longer than Obama -- there's a whole thread debunking the supermarket shelf accident below -- don't worry because (God willing) McCain will hang in another couple months ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I guess its time to stop routing for Clark, I dont even have a vp I can route for anymore, my candidate lost, my vp isnt going to be on the ticket. Wow bummer. Could you imagine McCain even having enough energy to run your local Mcdonalds. Seriously. Think about it next time your in line watching the Mcdonalds manager run around taking orders and shouting orders. McCain couldnt do it. So I ask You how will McCain be president??? Good news is i think McCain is just about done, I wouldnt doubt the GOP ditch him at the last second and run a younger more charasmatic charachter. They could site his Cancer scare as the reason. I dont doubt that they will, Becuase he is becoming more unelectable by the day, with gaff after gaff. Did you see him knock all that stuff off the shelf at the supermarket. the video is at http://www.mccanes.com all the while barack obama is looking like an NBA super star, (arrogence and all) even taking time to stop and have a cigar break video at http://www.theobamaplan.com I mean really what is the GOP going to do. McCain cannot win at this point and we havnt even started the debates.
You could go to a site www.veeppeek.com to sign a petition for your favorite veep. and see where your veep stands in realation to the other veeps. Tim Kaine isnt a bad choice I guess, just not my pick

Posted by: Paul | July 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I thought Obama Barack wrote in his book that he only did 'caine in his youth?

So now we are bringing up the Barack/Kaine drug-use issue again?

This is one more reason why Hillary needs to rightfully claim the nomination -- a nomination she is entitled too, by the way -- at the Democractic convention.

There are many members of the reality-based-community -- angry, bitter leftists like me who read firedoglake and are secure in our gender identity -- who will DEMAND that Hillary grab the nomination.

Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | July 29, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Jake D...the Obama campaign is pretty efficient.

While McCain and his campaign are overly focused on Obama not personally visiting with the troops in Germany, most Americans are worried about the economy. The more Obama discusses and gives good visuals of his concern for ordinary Americans in the economy, the wider his polling margin will grow.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 29, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Political experience is vastly over-rated!

The general public is not very knowledgable when it comes to how the U.S. Government operates. The U.S. President has to have good judgement, not experience. Experience is what you look for when you want someone to complete an operational task, such as a surgeon to do surgery or a tax attorney to do tax returns. No person is experienced to be "President" except Jimmy Carter, GHW Bush, Bill Clinton, and GW Bush.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about Obama and his loser campaign! "God Damn America" is enough for me. Speaking of being against america, how about Iran? Obama thought he could speak with the Iranian President? What an idiot!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_ahmadinejad

McChange 08'

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCon! | July 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

Obama make more than a "slightest mistake" in failing to visit wounded troops in Germany. If you think keeping that story in the news is GOOD for Obama, now I know why you are posting anonymously.

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Misdirection. I think Obama may have David Copperfield working with him.

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You can tell that the GOP would be worried by an Obama/Kaine ticket when the "national Republicans already began stirring the pot" and Obama has not even acknowledged who his VP choice will be.

When talk circulated last week that McCain would be making his choice for VP, names like Pawlenty, Jindal, and Romney were thrown around. I don't recall any national democrats "stirring the pot".

The "experience" question will always be tied to Obama regardless of who he chooses as his running mate! The Republicans will make sure of this. Obama needs to pick someone who he is both comfortable campaigning with and governing with.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 29, 2008 1:46 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse


Do you think you are saying something no one else knows? Don't look for Obama to make even the slightest mistake.

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RE: Update -- Obama-Kaine ticket WOULD be "the most inexperienced ticket in the history of the U.S." at least -- if you think GOP operatives are only now combing through Kaine's background, and all the other "short list" opponents, you've got another thing coming.

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 1:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

You can tell that the GOP would be worried by an Obama/Kaine ticket when the "national Republicans already began stirring the pot" and Obama has not even acknowledged who his VP choice will be.

When talk circulated last week that McCain would be making his choice for VP, names like Pawlenty, Jindal, and Romney were thrown around. I don't recall any national democrats "stirring the pot".

The "experience" question will always be tied to Obama regardless of who he chooses as his running mate! The Republicans will make sure of this. Obama needs to pick someone who he is both comfortable campaigning with and governing with.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 29, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Who ever Obama picks don't believe anything you hear till Obama announces it. The Obama people have played this whole campaign so well they will probably announce it at the convention. Talking about well played, I think Mccain got suckered into jumping on the Hospital thing. Obama knew what would happen and they played Mccain like a violin. Mccain went completely off message, kept Obama in the news and came off as a liar and a petty fool. Mccains buttons are so easy to push they will have him chasing his tail all the way to to election.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Even Charles C. Pinckney and Rufus King in 1804 would come close ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

RE: Update -- Obama-Kaine ticket WOULD be "the most inexperienced ticket in the history of the U.S." at least -- if you think GOP operatives are only now combing through Kaine's background, and all the other "short list" opponents, you've got another thing coming.

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

LOL, AlexP1. You do realize that OBAMA -- not McCain -- is supposedly considering Kaine, right?

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Bad Choice..This guy makes McCain look 50 years younger

Posted by: AlexP1 | July 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I am not at all interested in having Kaine on Obama's ticket. Obama can do much, MUCH better than Tim Kaine. If this is about getting Virginia in the blue column, Obama would be better off putting heavy-duty pressure on Mark Warner or Jim Webb - with Mark Warner being my first choice.

Posted by: Avery | July 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Betting on-line is illegal, so no, but thanks anyway. Kaine's middle name is Abel (no, it's Michael ; )

Kaine seems to claim a personal, religious opposition to abortion, but nonetheless supports legal abortions. That's no different from Democrats in presidential elections past like Mario Cuomo -- who made famous the "personally opposed but" statement that has rankled pro-life advocates -- completely worthless.

Kaine admitted to the WaPo, during his 2001 campaign for Lt. Governor, that he "opposes efforts to restrict abortions" and that he "opposes efforts to require a parent's consent before a minor gets an abortion."

Then, facing more intense scrutiny in his 2005 gubernatorial bid, Kaine changed positions and claimed he favors abortion limits. I don't believe him though. And, his flip-flop didn't catch leading pro-life advocates off guard.

"When Timothy Kaine was running for Lt. Governor, he supported abortion," former National Right to Life political director Carol Tobias told LifeNews.com in 2005. "Four years later, after seeing pro-abortion Democrats continue to lose election after election, Mr. Kaine now sings a different tune."

Tobias says she doesn't believe Kaine's supposed change of position is real.

Kaine only became Virginia's governor because pro-abortion state Sen. Russell Potts, a Republican running because he disagreed with pro-life Republican nominee Jerry Kilgore on abortion, siphoned off enough votes to let him win.

Kilgore also noticed Kaine's true pro-abortion colors and called his attempt to moderate his pro-abortion stance disingenuous.

"It is a classic example of Tim Kaine recognizing the audience and delivering the message that the audience wants to hear," Tim Murtaugh, Kilgore's press secretary said [in 2005].

"One the one hand he [runs] . . . down his supposed list of pro-life credentials and on the other he gathers with liberal Democrats at a fundraiser and uses all code words of the pro-abortion crowd," Murtaugh said.

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

obama's campaign didn't spread out these rumors for sure. so, somewhere at the obama headquarters, there has to be some serious headscratching. is this gonna a trend? leaking this was very unprofessional of whomever did. i think that reduces his stock slightly. But look, we're looking for someone who's got integrity, whom he can work with, is idependent, but has professional and personal chemistry (share a vision about how to govern), someone who's gonna roll up their sleeves and get to work and not go to funerals. That screams kathleen sebelius and joe biden to me. to a lesser extent, that screams evan bayh and hillary clinton, although those pumas are making it difficult (obama will be calling the shots, let's be real clear.) kaine would be someone who can shoot the hipanic vote up to 70% for democrats. he will reinforce a moral platform, but he's no economic expert. he's just a decent governor, much like pretty boy tim pawlenty.

Posted by: lupercal | July 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Care to make a bet on that, Jake? BTW, what's Kaine's MIDDLE name.?

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | July 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, Obama picks Kaine -- someone with even LESS experience than he has -- I don't mind running Experience vs. Change. Regardless, Obama will not be sworn in as President of the United States on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | July 29, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

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