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It's Jackson vs. Jackson on 'Ugly' and 'Demeaning' Obama Remarks


A June 4, 2007 file photo shows Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) laughing after saying goodbye to Rev. Jesse Jackson, reflected left, after Obama addressed the Rainbow PUSH Coalition's annual conference breakfast in Rosemont, Ill. (Associated Press).

Updated 7:06 p.m.
By Jonathan Weisman
Whatever the Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. said in a live microphone on Fox News, it was really, really bad, and none other than his own son seems to know it.

"I'm deeply outraged and disappointed in Reverend Jackson's reckless statements about Senator Barack Obama. His divisive and demeaning comments about the presumptive Democratic nominee -- and I believe the next president of the United States -- contradict his inspiring and courageous career," wrote Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), an Obama campaign co-chairman, in a statement sent out after word began spreading that his father had said something crude and deeply offensive.

The bold-faced text was his own. "Instead of tearing others down, Barack Obama wants to build the country up and bring people together so that we can move forward, together -- as one nation. The remarks like those uttered on Fox by Reverend Jackson do not advance the campaign's cause of building a more perfect Union."

The exact words have yet to be aired, but Rev. Jackson was near a microphone that he assumed was off when he disparaged Obama's tendency to tell African American audiences, especially black men, they needed to turn off their children's television sets, attend to their homework and keep their families together.

Rev. Jackson was contrite, ahead of an expected broadcast of his words on Fox tonight. In a statement from his Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, he wrote, "For any harm or hurt that this hot mic private conversation may have caused, I apologize. My support for Senator Obama's campaign is wide, deep and unequivocal. I cherish this redemptive and historical moment.

"My appeal was for the moral content of his message to not only deal with the personal and moral responsibility of black males, but to deal with the collective moral responsibility of government and the public policy which would be a corrective action for the lack of good choices that often led to their irresponsibility.

"That was the context of my private conversation and it does not reflect any disparagement on my part for the historic event in which we are involved or my pride in Senator Barack Obama, who is leading it, whom I have supported by crisscrossing this nation in every level of media and audience from the beginning in absolute terms."

Obama's campaign chose not to explicitly address Rev. Jackson's remarks, instead amplifying his campaign message of individual responsibility. "As someone who grew up without a father in the home, Senator Obama has spoken and written for many years about the issue of parental responsibility, including the importance of fathers participating in their children's lives," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton in a statement. "He also discusses our responsibility as a society to provide jobs, justice, and opportunity for all. He will continue to speak out about our responsibilities to ourselves and each other, and he of course accepts Reverend Jackson's apology."

For Obama, still struggling to put the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's inflammatory sermons behind him, another flare-up in the African American community cannot be welcome. Rep. Jackson has crossed swords with his father before, counseling Obama to broaden his appeal to white voters as Rev. Jackson has pushed him to be a more traditional civil rights leader. In the weeks leading up to the Iowa caucuses in January, Rev. Jackson wanted Obama to lead marches in Jena, La., where black youths were being prosecuted for beating up white youths who they said had put lynching nooses onto a tree. Rep. Jackson wanted Obama to focus on winning Iowa, which he did.

Rep. Jackson did not hide his anger at his father.

"Reverend Jackson is my dad and I'll always love him. He should know how hard that I've worked for the last year and a half as a national co-chair of Barack Obama's presidential campaign. So, I thoroughly reject and repudiate his ugly rhetoric. He should keep hope alive and any personal attacks and insults to himself."

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Jesse Jackson versus Barack Obama: A clash of Two Ideologies

My working definition of ideology is 'a formed belief that governs a person's actions. The prevailing ideology or assumption in mainstream "Black" American society up until Bill Cosby, was one that seemed to tilt in Reverend Jackson's favor. Obama, like Bill Cosby, appears to deviate from a prevailing Black ideology by taking a fresh look at an intractable problem that up until now, few have been courageous to deal with (in mainstream America).

Thank God for the roles of our civil right leaders in the 1960s, laying the foundation for social equality etc.

Yet, while America may not be totally where it should be, it certainly isn't where it used to be. Interestingly, this statement I have just made about America seems to be very controversial. This brings us back to the issue of ideology.

The Jackson-ideology would suggest that the gap is not only wide between black and white, but much hasn't changed since the 1960s. The Obama-ideology sees much progress in race relations since the 1960s and seeks to take advantage of the opportunities. Obviously, Obama has proven this true.

By running on a campaign framed not on race, but on an America that needed new direction, he captured the democratic nomination despite his race; thus proving that America is not what it used to be.

In the end Obama's ideology wins out. The inequities do not erase the opportunities, and the opportunities do not erase the inequities. While we acknowledge the inequities, we must make sure we are taking advantage of the opportunities.

It was Jesse Jackson who introduced "Ebonics" to the American lexicon, thus injecting the notion that Blacks needed a lower standard to cope in mainstream society--that single action is very revealing and downright insulting to his fellow African Americans. To me, this is speaking "down" to our sensibilities.

Telling a person to take personal responsibility is speaking "up" to our potential for endless possibilities. As a matter of fact, you are better positioned to address social inequities with credibility when you take personal responsibility.

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Posted by: K.T. | July 14, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Shortly after Obama's victory in the Iowa primary Jesse Jackson Jr. said to the Washington post, "The natural reminder is OJ (Simpson)--how does an African American attack a white woman?" The Obama campaign has made race an issue in this election year from the beginning. As far as his lecture to black fathers, I think he was reflecting on his own pain. Born out of wedlock to a white single American teenager, fathered by a black visiting foreign student from Kenya, who was already married and had two sons in Kenya, Barack was deserted by his father when he was two years old. Barack never had a father to help with the homework, read to him, or pay the bills.

Posted by: Maribeth | July 12, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in Houston, TX with black folks who were more family to me than my own. I never used the "N" word which was, for me, verbotin. However, I have since come to learn than there are a rare few bad examples of the human race the qualify; and Jesse Jackon has certainly proved himself to be deserving.

Posted by: Patasalada | July 10, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

TB wrote: Will Obama produce his birth certificate to prove he was born on American soil and is really a citizen.

TB are you dense? Anyone with an ounce of political knowledge knows that when you run for any kind of public office in the U.S., you are fully investigated. The investigation includes your birthplace, criminal background, etc. The same goes for regular federal government employees (such as myself). Your statement sounds accusatory and suspicious. There are lots of folks already falsely accusing Obama of being a muslim mainly because of his name, and to add on to that he is also accused of being a terrorist or a sleeper cell. Sounds like you are in that group somewhere.

Posted by: LAE | July 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The Reverend Jesse Jackson is a jealous an envious person who needs to retired from his fake job or go get a real job. He is always hunting for an opportunity to be in the limelight. He, as a black father with a 9 year-old child probably doesn't want to hear Obama's message to black men, because obviously he is not spending in positive parenting time with his youngest child.

Posted by: deshanique | July 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The Reverend Jesse Jackson is a jealous an envious person who needs to retired from his fake job or go get a real job. He is always hunting for an opportunity to be in the limelight. He, as a black father with a 9 year-old child probably doesn't want to hear Obama's message to black men, because obviously he is not spending in positive parenting time with his youngest child.

Posted by: deshanique | July 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"Goddamn America"-Rev.Wright Obama preacher for 20 years. Nuff said.

Posted by: Bob | July 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"Goddamn Amrica"-Rev.Wright Obama preacher for 20 years. Nuff said.

Posted by: Bob | July 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

to TB above : actually it is McCain wh owas not bron on American soil and who is ineligible to tun for the presidency.

Posted by: answer to TB | July 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Rev Jackson should apologize.And he should be ashame of himself.But this is what happens when when you realize that the old ways just don't cut it anymore.We need t stop waiting on the government for handouts.We all should get off of our backsides and get it for our selves.This is another reason why our economy is like it is.The old ways want do.We should be out their fighting for an even planning field.Too, many of us wait for it to come to you.I am 65 years old and raised 2 girls
on my own.Their father didn't give them a thing. I worked 2 jobs sometimes three and was never on welfare.I got out their and did it on my own.Both my daughters went to college. One on an atheletic scholasship, and I paid for the other to go to college. I am now retired with a small pension ans ss.I couldn't make it on that along so my daughters, pay my health insurance, my daughters bought me a home, and pay for insurance for my home. I take care of all the other expenses I have. If fathers took care of their kids, and mothers stop having kids for all these different fathers
who want take care of their responsibilities maybe a lot of us will be better off.

Posted by: Carolyn LeBeauf | July 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Will Obama produce his birth certificate to prove he was born on American soil and is really a citizen. He refuses to produce his certificate. If he does not then he should not be eligible to run for the office of the presidency. He is constitutionally ineligible until he produces his birth certificate. Where is the FBI when this is questioned? Why does the liberal press ignore this issue?

Posted by: TB | July 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Will Obama produce his birth certificate to prove he was born on American soil and is really a citizen. He refuses to produce his certificate. If he does not then he should not be eligible to run for the office of the presidency. He is constitutionally ineligible until he produces his birth certificate. Where is the FBI when this is questioned? Why does the liberal press ignore this issue?

Posted by: TB | July 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Jackson and Obama should study who the real slave traders were. It was the African tribal leaders who sold their own people to the English in 1562 for guns and artifacts so they could keep control of the Africans. Black African potentates not only had no scruples about selling their subjects to foreignors, but competed in man-stealing and waged tribal wars was motivated by greed for vendible slaves. Since America is the only country that has spent trillions to upgrade the Africans in America. Get off the crying about being held back. You hold yourself back it is not the American white race you try to protray as holding you back.

Posted by: GB | July 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Jackson Sr. wasn't paying attention but the footage I saw from Obama's speech on Father's Day showed an enthusiastic congregation ON THEIR FEET in agreement with what he was saying. Talking down to Blacks? No. Disagreeing with the way Jackson thinks change ought to come about? Priceless.

Many blacks- myself included- are tired of those who would defend poor behavior in our own community. Fighting injustice is important but so is denouncing the acceptance of low expectations. I think Obama should keep on speaking the truth and leave Jesse Jackson on the sidelines where he belongs.

Posted by: NYC | July 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Will JJ ever pay his debts when he ran for office. He is a dead beat.

Posted by: Dent | July 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"Every child needs to learn Spanish"
Obama is an idiot.

I was actually in that Powder Spring, GA town hall meeting and what he said was that all our children should be bi-lingual. He actually said this sentence. He then said every child needs to learn Spanish because he was talking his original conversation was about Spanish immigrants. Anybody who thinks that our children should not be bi-lingual is sadly mistaken. We live in a global economy and we are competing with people who are more educated and bi-lingual. They will better jobs if we do not educate ourselves. Like Barack said, you can get a great job with an international company is you speak a language that they need. Sitting in Ignorance and refusing to learn or acquire new skills never did anybody any good. We have to always better ourselves.

Barak is not an idiot. Barak knows the skills he had to acquire to become the president of Harvard Law Review and he's only trying to help. Once again; you can hate the message but please give credit where credit is due.

God bless you.

Posted by: Peju | July 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"Every child needs to learn Spanish"
Obama is an idiot.

Posted by: Bob | July 10, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know what a "Sister Souljah Moment" was until I looked it up in wikipedia.com. I'm a white, middle-class, male, please excuse my ignorance.

Posted by: Neil1236 | July 10, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Reverend Jackson has done some good work in the past, and that should be acknowledged.

No one is perfect.

I support Senator Barack Hussein Obama for President---not because he is perfect, but, because he is capable and he is decent. He surely is smarter than John McCain, and I believe he is more compassionate. To become president of Harvard Law Review is no small accomplishment. How does that accomplishment on thepart of Senator Obama compare to Senator McCain's graduating near the botton of his class at the United States Naval Academy?

Obviously, Senator Obama is the superior candidate for President.

Posted by: marion humphrey | July 10, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

It just seems a little absurb for a minister to say "I want to cut his nuts off"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Black men are the easy target. No one really cares if you offend them or degrade them and why should Obama be any different. Jesse said that they not he would cut his B... off. It was crass and rude but the truth. You see how far Bush's "faith based" got him! Where the heck is the change that he is talking bout when he is running the same ole stuff. Don't be fooled by this guy.

HE HAS REALLY LOST MY VOTE

You didn't post a name with your comment, but it appears that you might have a chip on your shoulder. Why is it that you think that Black men need to have some sort of social network such as welfare, etc. the same as women with children? It seems that you are angry because you want to collect a check and lay on your lazy butt, shirking all personal responsibility. If I were you, I would be ashamed to write such a posting. By the way, where did you learn to write so well? You appear to have a certain amount of education that you should be able to get yourself a decent job; or have your laziness contributed to making this an impossible task. I mean you're sitting there with a computer and writing skills -why not search the web for opportunities. Instead of sitting there trying to draw "I'm a poor black man" sympathy. I am really ashamed! And you can just keep your little vote for Obama... you're probably too lazy to get up off the couch and go vote anyway.

Posted by: LAE | July 10, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

...It was June 1973 and I was a young teen living in Chicago. There was an organizaion, OPERATION BREADBASKET, the precursor to Operation P.U.S.H., Jesse's organization. I remember being hired to make campaign buttons with the promise of being paid 5 cent a button. Well after making 300+ buttons I was looking forward to getting my 16 bucks. That didn't happen, we got some cock-in-bull story about the money not coming in.....blah blah blah. I remeber JJ standing there telling us how they would pay us when the money came in. Later that same day, I overheard some adults saying that he did have the money to pay us, but he decided we all should donate the money we earned to Operation Breadbasket. I didn't agree and i wanted my cash. Well it's been more than 30 years and I still don't have that money nor can I get over it. Don't trust the guy, haven't since '73 and he says one thing to you and something else behind your back.

Posted by: storeyy | July 10, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"He should take his butt home and comb his kids nappy ass hair!"

Let's be honest. The fact that you made this comment shows that Obama never really had your vote. Your anger is directed at the wrong person. Be angry at the woman who treated you so badly or the court system which I as a woman agree is unfair to non-custodial fathers most of the time, but do not be angry at Barack because he preached accountability. We should all be accountable to our children. If we can't be we shouldn't have them.

You seem so angry. Please seek some professional help. I will keep you in my prayers. God will see you through.

Posted by: Peju | July 10, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

When one disagrees with another, they can seek to address the issue(s) with that person or cordially disagree publicly in a respectful yet direct way. Jackson knows better. He made a mistake, has acknowledged it, and so we move on. Obama can help a nation by seeing both sides of an issue or argument and then by claiming his beliefs. Both Obama and Jackson have valid points, that really isn't the issue here. The issue is how this was brought forward. Oh, and the truth is always the light, by the way.

Posted by: Marchion | July 10, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Peju,

God bless you. You've said it all. I hope they can read and comprehend.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | July 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Then Obama's mom goes and gets remarried and they move to the islands in the pacific.. What a tough life. To grow up with a step dad while imagining you are fatherless. To grow up in Hawaii while imagining you grew up in Kansas. Is Obama delusional? Is that what JEsse is afraid to say?

Posted by: Dante | July 10, 2008 10:35 AM

It just goes to show that you don't know what you are talking about Dante. Obama never said he grew up in Kansas -that's where his mom was from. His biological father did abandon him and his mom at the age of 3. Also, he was never really brought up by his stepdad. He lived a few of his early years with his mom and stepdad in Indonesia -then was sent back to the U.S. to live with his grandparents when their marriage (mom/stepdad)dissolved at about 10 years old.

You can find all of this in his 2 books Dreams From My Father and/or Audacity of Hope. Of course we know that you are not really looking for the truth. You want to do what you probably do best. Please by all means... Rant on!!

Posted by: LAE | July 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

As a child of an absentee father and the father of 3 I found Obamas speech OFENSIVE!
I swore as a young man that I would not be that kind of man to my children. 22 year later I find out that I will get my chance. At the time I knew my ex and I were not ready to be parents but that didn't matter, because I am not in the drivers seat. The government handouts to the ex were flowing freely all with the bills coming to me. Needless to say this was a source of fierce debate in my home and eventually helped to end the marriage.
There are very strong public policies in place that create obsitcals for unmarried fathers. Our court system is designed to keep the father out of the home and sending $. When have you ever heard of a woman being jailed for visitation interference?

Obama had a great opportunity to build the American family on fathers' day but instead he opted to pitch to the Hillary voters. He could have said that as president I will help ensure that fathers are not systematically forced out and not limited to weekends or paychecks.

Even men that are in the house he told them to get of their butts and spend time with your kids. WHO THE HELL IS HE TO SAY SOME CRAP LIKE THAT! He should take his butt home and comb his kids nappy ass hair!

On mothers day can you image him coming with the same message. To mothers. It would go like this there are 70% of our children born out of wedlock. 100% of those children born out of wedlock are the DIRECT RESULT OF A UNILATERAL DECISION OF THE MOTHER. Theses men that send up to 50% of their paycheck for children they don't get to see are so courageous. To quote Chris Rock " you can drive a car with your feet but that does not make it a good idea"

Or on Sinco de Mayo saying that all the Mexican here illegally need to be responsible and go back to their native home. And that the companies that depend on their cheap labor should be ashamed.

Black men are the easy target. No one really cares if you offend them or degrade them and why should Obama be any different. Jesse said that they not he would cut his B... off. It was crass and rude but the truth. You see how far Bush's "faith based" got him! Where the heck is the change that he is talking bout when he is running the same ole stuff. Don't be fooled by this guy.

HE HAS REALLY LOST MY VOTE

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Dianne 72__ Get a life. All you have talked about on this blog is Michelle Obama. And why are you hating on her? Because you're jealous that she might become the next first lady and that's something you will never be in your dreams.

So you go on with your little rant if it makes you feel better. But you're one narrow minded individual.

Posted by: LAE | July 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I am horrified by all the hate I see in a lot of the postings here. You do not have to like Barack Obama or even support any of his ideas but to suggest that Jesse Jackson was correct in his criticism of Obama because you do not like Obama is outrageous. What person in their right mind would disagree with Barack's assertion that Father's need to be in their children's lives and parents need to put the right values or ideas in the children's minds? How can anybody have a problem with this? I for one am tired of black people not taking responsibility for their actions. I am a black woman who emigrated to this country, has several degrees and I am very successful in corporate America. If anyone should not have gotten ahead, it should have been me. By I was taught by my parents a long time ago the value of a good education. I was taught that you should be ashamed to accept anything that you did not work hard for. I was taught that you should be able to work around obstacles and get to where you need to be. I am successful today because of these things and because of: Working hard. Personal responsibility. Understanding that even though there is discrimination and racism, nothing was going to stand in my way. The only failure in my life would be as a result of my own actions or lack there of. A significant number of black people in this country do not seem to live by that doctrine because parents have the wrong values or kids look up to the wrong role models. I am tired of seeing all these rappers and sports figures on TV as role models for black people. Where are the doctors? the lawyers? the Engineers? The pharmacists? the Teachers? All these role models that I grew up with in Africa. Anybody who is earnig a living by not necessary using their brains or knowledge they have acquired, should not be anybody's role model. I am finally happy that I have an Intelligent, educated, black family man that I can point to as a role model for kids when I go to schools to talk to them.

Dianne72, Lynn E, why are you full of such hate and rage? Why do you hate Barack Obama so much that you would agree with the utter nonsense that Jesse Jackson sometimes stands for? Yes, he has been a good civil rights leader but he has also stood for causes that nobody should agree with. You probably call yourselves christians too I'm sure since this is such a 'Christian' country but you must have missed everything Jesus said about Love. Loving each other; loving those people that hate us and treat us unfairly. The funny thing is that if Jesus came back today you probably wouldn't know him and you would probably be quick to condemn him too. You need to let some of the anger go before it poisons you..Vote for McCain if you have to but do not hate Barack or anybody this much. It is truly unhealthy.

I for him do not agree with everything that Barack says but I will be voting for him because he represents my best interests, even though I supported Hilary when she was running. I will never vote against my best economic interest because I hate someone so much. I do not believe in cutting my nose to spite my face.

Please seek professional help for your angry before it destroys you.

Black people: we need to hold ourselves and each other accountable for the destruction of our communities.Black men are killing each other at an alarming rate. We need to stop looking for hand outs and work hard. Remember, we were a hardworking people once. We picked cotton from sun up to sun down. We marched during the civil rights era and built our our business. Black men, stop sleeping around and fathering children out of wedlock. Black women, raise your standards and stop sleeping with men you are not married to. We need to get off welfare. It only enslaves us. We need to do better and condemn each other when we don't. We need to make our children proud. We need to make our ourselves proud. We need to make America proud.

We can do better. Yes, we can. But more importantly, we should and we MUST.

Posted by: Peju | July 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what te black community's stalwarts would be saying if Don Imus made those remarks? Bill Cosby has been saying the same thing for years.

Posted by: Richard J. Mullin | July 10, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

For those that engage in Obama bashing, be objective about it. Dichotomy on account of party affiliation is politics and nothing else. Whoever wins becomes the President of the United States of America and not the President of the Repubs or Dems.
Why not give the young man a chance? If we desire a different result, we need to do things differently. You can not continue with the same process and expect a different result.
If you must criticize him, let it be objective. Don't criticize him because your affiliation is to the Republicans, Independent, Libertarian or "Clintonite".

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | July 10, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

A U.S. President named Barack Hussein Obama? No friggen way.

Posted by: Bob | July 10, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

what were the words that jessejackson said on the air that they blocked

Posted by: fay | July 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

To speak it is to feel it, is to believe it. If he did not feel the way the comment came out, why would it be necessary to say anything. One evaluates another by actions, deeds and works. Perhaps, the true heart of Jesse Jackson speaks! Beware of one who must always apologize to the exception...

Posted by: Rk | July 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Gaijin and sola,

I raised some salient issues which were not addressed in yours posts. It is a case of ignoring the message and criticizing the messanger. I hold a CPA and I am a Banker. I am the son of working class parents and my Father retired in 1996 as the General Manager, Engineering Services in the Federal Housing Authority in Nigeria. So you can see that I am not from the Ilk of the Corrupt Politicians you claim. I was taught the value of hardwork, fear of God and respect for Elders from my youth. I was also taught that in life, I can only be looked down upon by any race if I permit it. I was taught the value of Education.
I have Eight Siblings, Two with CPAs, a Surgeon, a Lawyer, a Micro-biologist, a Banking and Finance Major and an Engineer and we are doing very well in our chosen careers. I am sure my compatriot, Sola can see that I am not ignorant.
I am black and proud.
All the points I raised in my earlier post are valid and sacrosanct if blacks in American wish to stand tall one day.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | July 10, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Gaijin and sola,

I raised some salient issues which were not addressed in yours posts. It is a case of ignoring the message and criticizing the messanger. I hold a CPA and I am a Banker. I am the son of working class parents and my Father retired in 1996 as the General Manager, Engineering Services in the Federal Housing Authority in Nigeria. So you can see that I am not from the Ilk of the Corrupt Politicians you claim. I was taught the value of hardwork, fear of God and respect for Elders from my youth. I was also taught that in life, I can only be looked down upon by any race if I permit it. I was taught the value of Education.
I have Eight Siblings, Two with CPAs, a Surgeon, a Lawyer, a Micro-biologist, a Banking and Finance Major and an Engineer and we are doing very well in our chosen careers. I am sure my compatriot, Sola can see that I am not ignorant.
I am black and proud.
All the points I raised in my earlier post are valid and sacrosanct if blacks in American wish to stand tall one day.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | July 10, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

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Hey haters - get used to saying President Obama. :)

Posted by: 7 Levels | July 10, 2008 10:37 AM
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Haters? Because we think Obama is a fraud? How very new politics of you. What the haters did was join team Obama because he fed them hate of Bush, Hillary and hate of the bitter angry America.

Hate is the hope Obama gave people. Just go to posts on almost any message board and look at what Obama supporters said about others...see what hate is.

Posted by: Dante | July 10, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

We would have been better off with Hillary. Obama is truly a moron.

Posted by: Bob | July 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

That has got to be one of the deepest photographs I have ever seen. That picture's worth a million words.

Posted by: WallyWutMD | July 10, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

President Obama? I certainly hope not. Possible...but show me where this man speaks for us all? Where is the unity? He's all about taking from those that produce and giving to those that don't (or don't want to produce as much). Same for Jesse...always government (i.e. taxpayer) responsibility. It's a slippery slope...socialism....It starts small and ends with total control.
If you make $40K per year and want a better life, better insurance, whatever...then make yourself more valuable and get paid for it. That is truly the only way.
You know...in the old days...don't work...don't eat....quite an incentive.

Posted by: MakeUsProud | July 10, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Hey haters - get used to saying President Obama. :)

Posted by: 7 Levels | July 10, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama keeps insulting American blacks because his story is not theirs. I know why Jesse is upset. Barack's dad left him and his mom to attend elite colleges. The father was not part of the American black experience.

Then Obama's mom goes and gets remarried and they move to the islands in the pacific.. What a tough life. To grow up with a step dad while imagining you are fatherless. To grow up in Hawaii while imagining you grew up in Kansas. Is Obama delusional? Is that what JEsse is afraid to say?

Posted by: Dante | July 10, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Jesse is a lot like Bill Clinton.

Has beens who can't pass the torch, nor act appropriately. It's pretty pathetic, actually.

Posted by: Susan | July 10, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Jealousy is a curse.

Posted by: fra09 | July 10, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

he said he wanted to slice off his juevos rancheros. holy makeral. now that would smart! and how

Posted by: oldstompy | July 10, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson is a media hog and doesn't know when to let go. Yes Jesse Jackson has done good in the U.S. during the civil rights era and afterwards. But he has also done damage to himself and the African-American community as well. What Obama has said about African-American men on Father's Day, needing to assume more personal responsibility for their children and family, is nothing new, however the fact it came from the first black presidential candidate of a major political party is new.

I found Rev. Jackson's comments both insulting and repugnant. Let's not forget that Rev. Jackson had a child from an extramarital affair only 7 years ago. Jesse Jackson should take heed of what Obama said since it effects his life as well!

Jes

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | July 10, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I suspect this is, in part, an example of Jesse Jackson being jealous that Obama has succeeded where Jackson failed.

Furthermore, it's an example of the type of racial politics Jackson has played in the past. Whether it's demanding reparations from American corporations or continually using the race card whenever something goes wrong in the black community, Jackson represents exactly what is wrong in the black community. Perhaps, it's time Jackson took some responsibility for his own actions before he criticizes someone else.

Jackson repressents failed leadership in the black community. That many blacks look to Jackson as some type of leader explains why there is absolutely no accountability within the black community for problems such as the very high out-of-wedlock birthrate.

Posted by: Hana | July 10, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Dear "Obama causes war":

Very intelligent observations you have made about Senator Obama. And since the prospect of war is so repulsive to you, I suggest you stick to MacCain's campaign message of peace and vote for him; no harm done. And while you're at it, carefully examine the real meaning of the word "moron".

Posted by: kadene | July 10, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Dear Gaijin
I am a Nigerian and I am sorry for the ignorant that called himself "Dare" Nigerian. I bet he is a son of the corrupt leaders. I don't think any reasonable Nigerian Identifies with his silly comment. Gajin, If you are a black, believe me all black Africa people appreciate what you blacks in US have done for you race. You must know that you give us pride. If you are a white, also be sure that we appreciate you effort in supporting black issues for decades. Because of you progressive whites, we are winning our fights. God bless you. Peace!

Posted by: sola | July 10, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

No matter how many "rights" and privileges are granted to black America, the community will remain downtrodden with a "ghetto state of mind" until it collectively ends the pity party and realize education is the way out of the mire. I am sick of hearing whose fault, and who's to blame, and the reason why there is no significant upward social and economic mobility is because black people carry this deep-seated resentment about the prejudices they encounter. But these deep wounds have crippled their growth, and they are erroneously focusing their energies on the discrimination, thinking that liberation will come through waging a war against it.

Here is the secret: Liberation comes from overcoming and succeeding DESPITE the odds. Blacks should tell that to their children and stop the whining about who did what to whom whenever. Bill Cosby spoke the truth and prominent leaders in the society cussed him for it, but he was so telling the truth. Discrimination will never go away, no matter who's President. People will continue to embrace or reject whatever they wish. The best we can hope for is tolerance and respect. But instead of demanding respect, it's about time American Blacks as a community set about earning it. The inner-city communities needs strong leadership courageous enough to motivate the constituents to take a critical look around their living environments and start a cleanup campaign. That's just the first step. Education is the next.

Posted by: ellie | July 10, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Whatever the Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. said is correct and true.

Posted by: Premier | July 10, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

The Jacksons are fighting just like too many American Families & Friends over fights breaking out over this stutturing, moron Obama being nominated by the DNC. TOO many of us who have taken a good look at Obama's record in the Senate and in his District know only too well what a piece of dangerous garbage he is. Action speaks louder than words. Obama is friendly with Farrakhan, Wright and too many people who love Cuba, Libya and all of our arabic enemies. He associates with Rezko who with Obama's help ripped off the black people of Obama's District. He tells you he is about change and you believe him. His wife doubled her salary while sitting on the board of Hospital, as soon as BH Obama became a Senator. IF thats NOT a kick back payment I do NOT know what is. Obama is obviously lazy because he had the worst voting record, missing more votes than any other senator except for SD Senator who was ill with brain cancer.
Blacks need to read up by googling, on Obamas slumms, and Curtain time for Obama and realize its all about power and money for Obama, he does NOT give a darn about you, or anyone. The only color Obama respects is GREEN of money.

Posted by: 0bama causes war | July 10, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

To Dave in Santa Barbara
I made also the speculation that this is a stroke of political brilliance. But I don´t mind to see how Fox news and the rest of the copycat media get defeated by their own weapons. That is truly the Art of Excellence to deal with a lynch-monger media.

YES WE CAN

Posted by: Dina in Germany | July 10, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Nobama
Nobama
NoNoNo
Nobama!

Hillary 08!!!!!

Posted by: Bigtime | July 10, 2008 6:44 AM | Report abuse

Sinister Minster continues to grab attention. I have never been a fan of this clown.
It's a shame that Blk America is not sophisticated enough to see that JJ is a hustler.
Yes, Obama should point out the White Man's faults too but I am not too concern with their problem as much as I am about ours.

Posted by: Gaijin | July 10, 2008 4:58 AM | Report abuse

Dare Nigeria
Firstly, I refuse and will not accept a Nigerian bashing Black Americans. I'll listen to you when you can resolve the corruption in your Dirty Country with your so call leaders. What a joke.

Posted by: Gaijin | July 10, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

Let the truth be told, African Americans have been their own enemies over the years.
They blame everybody except themselves for being backward. They need to be told some home truth and that was exactly what Obama did. How can a race continue to wallow in deceit and self-pity. Its time they get off their complacency and strive to make positive contribution to their Family, their community and the Country in general.
We can not continue to pat ourselves on the back when we are supposed to be admonishing ourselves.
Entrenchment of Strong family values and social responsibilities in the upbringing of our Children will go a long way to change the stereotype that has stuck to an average blalk man like a leach.
Obama spoke well and I support his comments whole heartedly.
I am a black man with roots in Nigeria and I have been able to do well for myself.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | July 10, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama does not speak for the Democratic Party. We will work tirelessly to deny Obama a win in California this November. We will prevail.

Posted by: Sunshine | July 10, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

reverend jackson does not speak for me i`m a 47yr african male whos been married for 14yrs. i have two sons one 15 and the other one is 12 i`ve been a black male who`s dad was not in the home i was raised by a single mom who made sure that i was more afraid of her than the police!! so the excuse`s that i hear that our young men need a male role model is bull$h!t our kids need to stop having kids they are confused they associate sex with love! yes america has been mean to african american males for a long time but education is the key! i was taught to go too school graduate then get a good job! well i`m telling my boy`s to graduate go to college then graduate and start their own business`s because the man who write`s the checks is the man who has his future in his own hands the man who waits to collect a check is screwed!

Posted by: GSGGRIGSBY | July 10, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Boy, that is pretty rich coming from Rep. Jackson. First, consider the fact that he probably needed to take his own foot out of his mouth before he could say anything. Second, no one would ever have HEARD of Rep. Jackson if his Dad weren't Jesse Jackson, Sr. Third, see first & second.

Posted by: MJ | July 10, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Obama 2008!
Save us from the evil Republicans!
We can't take it any more.
We are sick of high gas prices.
We are sick of corruption in the highest offices.
We are sick of unjustified wars.
We are sick of lies.
We NEED change!

Posted by: Bill Wynier | July 10, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

I dont find Jackson Sr.'s anger misplaced as it seems that obama has been ignoring the Black Community and the only time he does attend something he seems to lecture them or throw them under the bus for his own expediency. And for Jackson Jr. - well he should be the last one to talk since he went on National TV and said that he couldn't say Hillary's tears were crocodile ones but why hadn't he seen her crying for the victims of Katrina and this had to be considered very carefully by the black community as they went to the polls in North Carolina. I prefer to side with Sr. over Jr. on this one. I find his comments less offensive than Jr.'s race baiting during a campaign.

Posted by: justmyvoice | July 10, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I guess "Bills monsters of the ID" must have taken control of Jessie mouth.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | July 10, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson has a right to his opinion just like any other American. However, I have never considered him to be my leader. Please stop assigning us black leaders, we have the sense to pick our own. If Obama is advocating fathers taking responsibility for their children that is a good thing. This message should resonate in all communities because it is happening in other communities other than just the black communities (just watch Maury Povich). Fathers step up to the plate and be men, your children need you. You may dodge your day in court but you can not dodge judgement day!

Posted by: buckman | July 10, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

G8tr

"He has been bluffing the world ever since."

He is ten times the man you will ever be, move out of your parents basement and get a job, you lame lib troll...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet Jesse's carbon footprint is bigger than Al Gore, Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins combined !!!

Posted by: Chuckamok | July 9, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow, comparing Jackson to a Republican!

Next thing ya know, you'll tell us he's a millionaire, lives in a huge house, and that his stock portfolio includes Big Oil, Big Pharm and the MIC.

Posted by: Chuckamok | July 9, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

"I do, he sounds just like a Republican troll too."

Keep dreaming, the sheen has worn off old BHO I think everyone is getting the real picture.

Different packaging, same product - loser...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

There, the message is signed!!!

Now why don't you shut up and let the adults talk.

McCain is gonna be the next President baby - deal with it!!!

Posted by: G8tr is a clown | July 9, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson . . . a mean-spirited, bigoted, self-serving hypocrite. Does anyone else find him a con-man and ridiculous caricature?

Posted by: Michael7225

I do, he sounds just like a Republican troll too. Bet he'll vote for Obama but that is only because he is more intelligent than the average troll.

Posted by: G8tr | July 9, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Diane 72
How old were you when you started to shave or aren't you old enough?

Posted by: G8tr | July 9, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

The "Reverend" Jesse Jackson. What a hypocrisy. He certainly showed his true stripes in these remarks. An apology? Only because he was caught, bold-faced, being the real Jesse Jackson . . . a mean-spirited, bigoted, self-serving hypocrite. Does anyone else find him a con-man and ridiculous caricature?

Posted by: Michael7225 | July 9, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Does Jackson have Alzheimer's? Did he not remember anything about the fallout from his 1988 "Hymietown" remark to Milton Coleman?
Perhaps the good Reverend Jackson's colorful language is the terminology Mrs. Jackson used when she discovered that the good Reverend had fathered a child out of wedlock.
Perhaps Jackson should have listened to Obama a little more closely; he might have learned something.

Posted by: RoxanneAustin | July 9, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Diane 72
I saw on another blog where you said Michelle reminded you of Jackie Kennedy or something like that. Now your saying she is affirmative action wife. Doesn't every man like a little affirmative action from his wife. It would be a great pleasure to share inauguration day and watch you beaming while Michelle watches Barack take the oath of office.

McCain is a Bushman, tell me, Diane, do you agree that McCain is a field Bushman.

One Republican troll who is too cowardly to sign his message thought that the poorly rated naval aviator who was shot down over Vietnam was an American hero. A brave man yes but qualified to be president, not likely. The man can not run a primary campaign and is in such a state of confusion that he had to get rid of his general election campaign team. When will that little man realize that he is the problem not the campaign team. Probably never. He has been bluffing the world ever since he came in 694 out of 699 in his Naval Academy class. I'll bet Daddy being an admiral was a big help to little John. Just the kind of guy trolls relate to.

Posted by: G8tr | July 9, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72...your sheet is slipping. Get a grip and get a REAL life, you ignorant bigot!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Ever noticed how crooked Jesse Sr.'s moustache is? Why hasn't anyone ever told him about it?

Posted by: Mike H in Cali | July 9, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

dave - don't give any credit to Obama's hacks for this one. Jackson has been manipulating the system for a long, long time. If he has learned anything, it is that he is absolutely untouchable. He has never had to answer for any of the racist hate mongering things he has said. Jackson says what he says, because he can get away with saying anything. Just like the rest of the left.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson is annoyed with Obama because he's been displaced as a "rock star" by the younger guy, and is not being called on to be the guru of the campaign. It's the same problem Bill Clinton has with Obama. Speaking as somebody older than either one of them, I think they're on their way to being ill-tempered old coots, and I'm glad we've got a new generation of leaders.

Posted by: Glory | July 9, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

"Toughen up and above all, SHUTT UPPPP--you are such an embarrasment, you old goat."

Amen.

His "apology" was full of weasel words and deflections - skills he has honed sharp over the years.

Posted by: Chuckamok | July 9, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

he is jealous of Barack Obama, I have known this from the beginning, it's sad but true and so are a lot of the farts on Faux?Fox news.

Posted by: Mya | July 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

What a stroke of political brilliance! I'm no conspiracy theorist, but this one is just TOO PERFECT!!! Jesse has been on TV WAAAAAYYY TOO LONG to know that what he was saying wouldn't be overheard. Think of how beautifully this all works for Obama: Jesse is a polarizing figure which he and CERTAINLY Obama know. Jesse makes this politically and racially charged statement, and Obama promptly takes the high road. White moderate swing voters--the ones who will make or break this election for Obama--are impressed by his high-mindedness, and, despite Obama's having accepted Jesse's apology, Obama now has a ready-made excuse for having NOTHING to do with the polarizing Rev Jackson in the remaining months before the general election (again--a huge "plus" for Obama where the white moderate vote is concerned). This move also short circuits any potentially costly summer/fall showdown between a moderate, black presidential candidate and the far-left, black leader of the Rainbow Coalition. Had that happened, Obama would have found himself between a rock and a hard place, knowing how crucial both white swing voters AND a huge African-American turnout are. Now it's a moot point--they won't be seen within a mile of each other until mid-November at the earliest. What's in it for Jesse, then? Why would he agree to throw himself under the bus like this (he really comes of bad in the very short term, but then again, our collective memories are very short term)? Stay tuned for what plum "assignments" may come the Reverend's way in Obama's second term.... You heard it hear first, folks--FAIR AND BALANCED BABY!!! That Obama camp is BRILLIANT!!!

Posted by: Dave in Santa Barbara | July 9, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

He will be everyone's president, not just African-Americans, Jessie Jackson is jealous of what Barack Obama has accomplished. I could see that a long time ago. Also, the Black racist that they have on Fox/Faux news are jealous as well, they jump at any chance to criticize this man,because he has done what they could not do and that is to reach all people.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Jackson spoke the truth the first time. Anything he says about Obama after giving his apology are half-truths. It appears that Obama is not such a unifying figure after all. He seems to have a lot of trouble relating to his own community.

Posted by: Terrence | July 9, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

"and always tells it like it is. "

No he doesn't he tells you what will get him through the next door, and once he is through, he changes his position.

I'm not proud of him at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama truly is heads and tails above the crowd.

No wonder we are JADED with our "leaders". We have been so saturated with people like Jesse and Al Sharpton over the years, making racial issues out of absolutely everything, all while conducting themselves as total hipocrites and loud-mouthed bafoons, and here comes Obama, who speaks calmly, directly and with such meaning and sincerity.

He teaches us all what it is to "rise above", and always tells it like it is. He speaks from experience and with his heart to everyone--he dosen't race bait and isn't some jackass faking his way along.

Best of luck to you Obama- you will make us proud

Posted by: hal | July 9, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the Democratic Party. He is a terrible choice for our party. He enchanted the people of Iowa and they made an awful mistake voting for him during the primary. The honeymoon is over.

Posted by: Jason | July 9, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

So BHO is only concerned about black families and the plight of the black community? He'll be lucky if he gets 2 states in the general...

Posted by: What | July 9, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

If Jackson was a "house negro" like Obama he might of had a chance in 84. But alas, he more of the field negro variety like Obama's affirmative action wife.

Posted by: Dianne72 | July 9, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is the FIRST black elected official to tell it like it is on this issue consistently."

Wrong, I hear it all the time. He has only run for office for a few months, so I wouldn't call it consistent. By the way, even if it were, it would be the only consistent think he has done. His middle name should be Barack "FlipFlop" Obama instead of Hussein.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson--

Talk about being DEEP in denial!! Stop hating on Obama and Cosby for simply being man enough to call out the real problems in the black community.

Toughen up and above all, SHUTT UPPPP--you are such an embarrasment, you old goat.

Posted by: Katheryn | July 9, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

GOP bloggers..do you really expect us to believe you now agree with Jesse Jackson? You think that family disintegration is not a major issue?

Obama has given the same speech on father before he won the nomination, just wasn't reported by the media. (they didn't care then)

I am the only one who remembers when Jesse Jackson defended Bill Cosby after calling black fathers to task. Whats his issue with Obama?

Posted by: case | July 9, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

John- that is what the ignorant masses want to hear- "your problems are your responsibiltity-get over it" rather than there are deeper social and economic reasons involved- Obama is giving the public what it wants- it is Jackson who has consistently challenged the public.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Lynn E said:
"I'm very pleased that he [Jackson] said what he said about Obama and hope the African-American community finally steps up and brings down Obama because he is not a good guy for anyone, black or white or any other skin shade!"
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So, Lynn E, I gather you don't think fathers should accept the responsibilities of parenthood?
I'm thinking maybe Jesse Sr. couldn't handle the truth Obama speaks. Fact is, Karin Stanford had to take Jackson to court to get child support for their child, and regular visitations to his daughter (more than once every 7 months).

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

"Many of them are posting their slightly hidden hate messages here."

Lots of people don't agree with you, it doesn't make them "hidden" or hateful. They just don't like the guy. Neither do I.

Posted by: Wrong | July 9, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm black and "old school" enough to remember when our parents told us we had to work twice as hard just to break even. Now, we make excuses for our men who make babies they never intend to raise. Obama is the FIRST black elected official to tell it like it is on this issue consistently. Racism will be with us for a long time. I don't want to wait until it is finished to have hope and control my destiny. Don't tell me about how things are unfair and corrupt. I know that. But it HAS ALWAYS been that way. Nothing excuses this rampant madness of no father, stressed out mother and high school drop out rates that doom our youth. We need to take control of our futures and think about the consequences. We are not puppets! In this changing world, too many of our people are falling behind and not ready for the future. Shoot, we had more willpower, discipline and vision during Jim Crow days! And Rev. Jackson would take offense to moral lectures. Didn't he have an out of wedlock child a few years ago? Didn't he either pay off or "send" the mother and child to another state? Geez, maybe he just feels his feet getting stepped on.

Posted by: packbunny | July 9, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

So the black community is offended by Senator Obamba's comments??

TOUGH SHYTTT!! Absent fathers are a huge problem in this community, and need to have their A$$'s kicked, and BRAVO to a man who isn't worried about being so PC as to "offend everyone". He grew up fatherless and if anyone is qualified to speak on the topic, I would say he is!!

That's what's so wrong with people like Jesse Jackson...so worried about offending people, that you don't tell them the TRUTH. Tough love and being unvarnished and direct are qualities we badly need right now!!

Posted by: Michael | July 9, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Jackson is a rabble rousing, race baiting hater. He has proven it over and over. From Hymietown to cutting out the nuts of a presidential candidate. What's next? I can assure you of one thing - if teflon jesse were white, there would be charges filed.

But, as usual, the left proves itself to be the last bastion of overt racism in America.

Congrats, kids - you earned it.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

And they say, blacks haven't come a long way.
From the back of the bus, to the front. Now there driving it, over one another.

There is a God !

Posted by: Dashriprock | July 9, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

G8tr

Obama is wrong and Jesse is right - see I can do it too...

Obama didn't expect them to standup and be counted, he attempted to marginalize them and try to draw in white voters at the same time, because he only has the support of 9th district thinking kooks like you, and kids. Neither of which will be determining the next President.

Your next President is gonna be a war hero, deal with it.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

There really are some weird racist people in this country. Many of them are posting their slightly hidden hate messages here.

Posted by: EMJ | July 9, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Thats exactly why we like Obama.

He tells us what we need to hear in unvarnished terms. Unlike Jessee Jackson, who placates the ignorant masses, and tells them what they WANT to hear.

Look-Obama grew up without a FATHER, and the facts are that absent fathers in the black community NEED to get their asses kicked!! I say, BRAVO Obama!!

Posted by: John | July 9, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

i love to see how the left walks by these comments but if it had been a white republican - there would have been blood on the street.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Lynne E

Im 47 years old. I voted for Jackson in "84" and was proud of it. A wasted vote but still proud. Jackson has fought for us many times and in many different ways. All helpful to the black community. But know he and others of that old guard are feeling intimidated that a man like OBAMA wont bend on his knees and kiss Jackson's or Sharpton's ring finger. He dont have to. He has shaken up the old guard much like Woods did with the old white establishment in golf. Sports, politics. Im saying that Jackson knows that he being our so called voice of us black folks will be at an end when OBAMA takes the oath of office.

Cut off the n##tsack is what he said. With a cutting gesture thrown in. He meant it. I saw it. And he was ignorant enough to go on that misbegotten FOX crap that has a HATE for all and everything OBAMA. Jackson is a fool. For real.

And I would like to see some of you posting and spewing this supporting crap about Jackson to say if you've seen the clip. If not then you people are just blowing nothing but wet farts.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

When do we finally hold Rev Jackson responsible for his remarks? He is a race baiter who is quick to challenge others and he has made a good living off it. He has children out of wedlock. He uses profanity and anti semetic language. He covered himself in the blood of Dr King and has tried to become a self proclaimed leader of african americans. He shakes down corporate america for dollars to the rainbow coalition ad does not pay taxes.

when do we turn our backs on this guy???????

Posted by: peter knockstead | July 9, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I am a long time supporter of Mr. Jackson as he is one of the only truly progressive/left voices in the party. I volunteered for his campaign in '88. I don't know his exact quote, but it did appear to me that Obama's personal responsibility speech was similar in purpose to Clinton's Sista' Soldia' speech-- I think we are all aware that there is a personal responsibility part to any problem. However, highlighting this aspect of the problem ignores the greater social picture- if we are all genetically similar- which can be scientifically proven, why are certain problems so focused on one community? The answer must be something bigger than the individuals themselves. Ecologically, we are all free to make choices- but we realistically don't all have the same availability of all choices. For a simple example, if there are no stores in your neighborhood that sell fresh fruits and vegetables- as is the case in the south bronx, where I work,or if the prices are prohibitive given your economic situation obtaining them for your diet requires a significant amount of work and sacrifice, making it unlikely that it will happen. All of the nutritional counseling in the world won't change that.

In other words, it is easy to say that your problems are solely your responsibility and the results of your own merit and choices, but it is simply untrue. We as a society are responsible for ensuring that all of our members are able to live with some level of justice and dignity. This means that addressing the larger social problem is vital. By allowing the public's focus to go back on the individual- and the individual certainly does have some responsibility and has a role in the issue- we excuse society from it's responsibilities.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

See, this is the reason I get my news from Fox. I know exactly what was said.

WaPo news articles, are so not.

Posted by: Deb from NC | July 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Jesse is wrong and Obama is right. Obama expected African American fathers to stand up and be counted.

This is not the first time that Jackson took the position that blacks are not at all responsible for their own plight.

Imagine the hypocritical Republican trolls are against personal responsibility because Obama is for it. If only Republican senators were as dumb as these trolls, the FISA would not have passed today.

Posted by: G8tr | July 9, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Ouch!

Posted by: Buster Gonads | July 9, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Ol Jesse is a class act, isn't he? No one can spew hate like Jackson with such aplomb - and back track out of it so smoothly.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how old many of these posters are and if they really even know much about Jesse Jackson! This guy was with Martin Luther King Jr. and was active in the Civil Rights movement and ran for president once. He is not an empty suit, that is Barack Obama. I'm very pleased that he said what he said about Obama and hope the African-American community finally steps up and brings down Obama because he is not a good guy for anyone, black or white or any other skin shade!

Posted by: Lynn E | July 9, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

lolani

Jackson said he wanted to cut off the damn n##sack of OBAMA followed by a cutting gesture. Do you foolishly believe this has anything to do with criticizing OBAMA and not getting personal, physically personal, by cutting the n##sack?

What in holy hell does this have anything to do with critzing OBAMA? Did you see the clip? or just going by word of mouth? If that is a system you follow then I pity you.


Posted by: llewis40 | July 9, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

JJ...Archaic ..vote him out of the island

Posted by: Nishie | July 9, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: OpenmindedMD | July 9, 2008 7:13 PM


When is someone black enough? I drop of black blood makes a person black. Many Blacks were in the same situation Obama is no only a few decades ago, he happens to have a white mother and an African father. I guess we should blame Obama for that, he had a choice.
Look at the racist people who have posted to this site. Let us test you blood...how many blacks "crossed over"-- Possibly that's why your hatred is so deep!

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what a paradox 'a drop of black blood' we are all confused

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Jackson meant what he said. With all sincerity.

And the fool who posted at about the 9:30 pm mark just needs to back away from the PC and go to bed. All the contributions that Jackson did over the years, and they were great just now out of fashion, dont justify expressing a desire to cut off the n##t sake of a fellow man followed by a cutting gesture.

This not only came from his head but also his heart. And you folks giving praise to him because of his past accomplishments need to sit and think how would you feel if someone wanted to do this to you in earshot for all to see. OBAMA didnt do anything but tell the truth about Fatherhood in the black community. Just sad for Jackson that he no longer has a solution to offer.

this is stupid.

Posted by: llewis40 | July 9, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Popeye Jackson the imitation Christian should just STFU!!!!
We all know he's the Clinton's water boy.

Posted by: DWayne | July 9, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

America's democracy can be defined this way:

He, who criticizes the Clintons, should be applauded; but he, who criticizes the Obamas, should be condemned and crucified.

Wait till he is the president.

Posted by: Iolani | July 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again...


the 'race' card one more time because things arenot working in the way should be.


Is the fire dying Obama ? ? ?

Posted by: arebrown | July 9, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Reverend Jackson's critics are the ones who "don't get it." It's quite obvious he spoke out-of-context.

Let's hope he continues to strike out on the issues.

Posted by: Rev. E. Raleigh Pimperton III | July 9, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse


The Rev. Jackson just does not get it. His attitde, his outlook, his leadership takes us right back to the past. And, he gets marginalized once more.
Please, let's find new leaders for the race dialogue. Jackson, and maybe too much of his Black political establishment, are yesterday's world.
The only reason Jackson is back in the national limelight is because of Obama's individual success, and Obama's new message on race. Change.
The Rev. Jackson should get with the program, or get out of the way. AND, be quiet.

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr. | July 9, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The Reverend Jesse Jackson has a long history of striving to lift not only black americans, but all americans. Obama is a shallow shell who will do anything, say anything, become anything all for his personal gain. He is a fraud and charlatan. God bless you Jesse. Shame on your son and triple shame on thta fraud Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

You can read a funny review of what he said over at SplitNation

Posted by: Get Ready | July 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

The reverend says something like he did, and this is how you spin the article?

You should be ashamed of yourself as a journalist. It is obvious I will have to go somewhere else to have my news presented in a objective manner.

If you're not going to report the remark, how can you write the story?

Posted by: Ashamed of this site | July 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm not for Obama, but at least he steps up to the plate to recognize the importance of personal responsibility. Jackson?

"My appeal was for the moral content of his message to not only deal with the personal and moral responsibility of black males, but to deal with the collective moral responsibility of government and the public policy which would be a corrective action for the lack of good choices that often led to their irresponsibility."

I hope this philosophy will die soon. People choose to behave responsibly or irresponsibly. I know a man who moved to the USA 5 years ago with his family. He had next to nothing. All he could do was trade his labor for pay, so he joined with painting crews to earn his way. He and his wife worked long hours together, and after a while he had enough to buy a used van and equipment, get a business license, and work for himself. Now he's moved into interior decorating, not just moving paint brushes, and he's in high demand.

Did I mention he doesn't even speak English? Yet people born here, with no disadvantages to getting an education (no language barrier), will sit on their azzes, shoot each other on street corners, hustle for change so they can buy a forty, have kids at 16 and the dads run away - and Jesse Jackson thinks "lack of choices" drove them to this, and there is a collective morality that's supposed to fix things for these screw-ups.

Jesse, please go away and take with you this noxious message. It's what kept blacks under foot and dependent beyond the Civil Rights era into today. Your message is irresponsible.

Posted by: slabbo | July 9, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Marion Barry told us years ago..."Jesse Jackson don't wanna run nothing but his mouth". Jesse knew exactly what he was doing.

Posted by: Mo | July 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

At a campaign stop in GA today BHO said this:

" I don't understand when people are going around worrying about we need to have English-only. They want to pass a law, we want just ... we want English-only.

Now I agree that immigrants should learn English. I agree with that. But ... understand this: Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English--they'll learn English--you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish.

Posted by: Gotcha | July 9, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I believe Jesse, Sr. is jealous of Obama and his success, because Obama's post-racial campaign is going t make it very difficult for traditional Black political leaders to continue to cash in on being racially focused. The irony is that Obama represents the fulfillment of Rev. King's dream of judging character instead of color. It's time for Jesse to step aside and either wait for new marching orders from Obama - or just retire from his role as the official spokesperson for black America. His wallet and his huge ego shall surely suffer.

Posted by: BennyFactor | July 9, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse


Nothing's quite as juicy as catching one of the bible-thumping, right wing evangelists getting caught red ____ed in bed with a female prostitute or perhaps a cute 18-yr-old boy.

It's justice, poetry and hypocrisy all rolled into a tender ball of ridicule.

Now along comes none other than THE REVERAND Jesse Jackson exposing his private (verbal) parts to the public, with comments about the candidate he ostensibly supports, no less.

Is it a sex scandal---the best of all scandals? Nope.

It's merely an exposure of how this "man of God" speaks when he doesn't think he's being recorded. Some were shocked by the Watergate Tapes, hearing Nixon swear like a sailor, but at least Nixon didn't cloak himself in a religious cloth.

Jackson does.

Jackson joins Swaggert and the other religious hypocrites whose names I don't even remember in the exclusive Hall of Shame, God Wing.

And this time he ain't gonna be able to glib-talk his way out.

MyBlog: http://ProteanPerspectives.blogspot.com

Posted by: FredrickBernanke | July 9, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Besides Jesse perhaps losing his clout, this episode also illustrates the dichotomy in the black community. No slave blood, mulatto, high yellow, light skin etc etc - these adjectives are distinctions that have plagued this race for quite some time. The undercurrent is apparent.
Good luck with these subtle problems, Obama.

Posted by: Ron | July 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

What a weak and pathetic article. Reverend J.Jackson says he want to "cut his 'Ns' off" and the Post writes a glowing article on Obama from Jackson's son.

What a crock.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a gift for Barack Obama.

It is like a Sistah Souljah moment for Obama where someone else does all the work. Jesse Jackson's diminishing group of followers is not going to jump to John McCain because Jackson views Obama poorly and moderates and detractors of Jackson will be reassured that Obama must be OK if Jackson dislikes him so.

Plus it keeps Obama off the issues for a few more days.

Posted by: danielhancock | July 9, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

jackson is simply someone who got filthy rich on the backs of african americans involved in a problem that jackson prays nightly will never be solved. otherwise, the cash flow would dry up!

Posted by: truthserum | July 9, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I am a bit surprised. I didn't think anyone listened to the Rev. Jackson any more.

Posted by: steve boyington | July 9, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Jesse, Jesse, what a bumbling fool you have shown yourself to be. Jesse is worried about Obama "talking down" to someone on the same day that the nasty old republican curmudgeon, John McCain said that selling more cigarettes to Iranian civilians will kill more of them.

John McCain is a danger to the human race, an angry and mean-spirited old pecker, a panderer to neo-con torture fetishes and Zionist wars, and the husband of a dope fiend who jets around the world to replenish her stash while the press keeps its head in the sand, and Jesse wants to cut off Obama's Nuts.

Jesse Jackson should really be ashamed of himself.

Posted by: DCSage | July 9, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama's church of black liberation theology, where he found Jesus and studied under Wright and Phleger for 20 years, talks down to blacks. THE THEOLOGY ITSELF spews hatred and racism against whites and Jews while teaching blacks that their skin color will always be an overwhelming obstacle for them in our racist country. It teaches them to despise whites and our country/government and instead of focusing on all of the progress that has been made in our race relations in the US, it teaches them that they will always be crapped on by our society because of the color of their skin. It is not an empowering, uplifting message of hope and growth. It is a message of hate, hopelessness, and racism. And while it does actually teach that whites are the enemy (look it up) it also teaches blacks that they are their own worst enemy. That they cannot succeed - and that they should expect to fail. Sad really. Especially since Obama may very well be our next preseident. THEY CANNOT DENY WHAT OBAMA HAS ACCOMPLISHED. It blows their whole philosoph to hell. Maybe at the very least, the black liberation theology will adjust its racist, degrading, outmoded view and embrace others and our country that made auch things possible.

Posted by: OBAMAJAMESCONE | July 9, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson has long had a serious problem with his mouth in the presence of microphones he didn't know were operating. Remember "Hymietown"? Maybe he should spend less time on Fox Network and more time pondering his own relevance to anything.

Posted by: willythekorn | July 9, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

An interesting and obvious difference here in how each view the source of this problem with black men and responsibility. For Obama its personal responsibility as opposed to Jackson's claim of the moral responsibility of government.

Clearly the enactment and enforcement of laws is what a government does. It is a governmental responsibility.

Black men like all other men must take personal responsibility and navigate their lives in accord with those laws as well as being lawful in their effort to see a change in which ever of those same laws functions as an impediment to their progress.

There really is no other way to keep hope alive.

Posted by: hennesi | July 9, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama is being portrayed as an equal opportunity offender.

And by the time Fall rolls around he will have dissed everyone. Which makes him the best candidate for President. It's time that we all get over ourselves and work together.

Posted by: Terry | July 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

and your a idiot phila-guy

I take it you didnt see or here that stupid statement that Jackson said on that hot mic. Jackson wanted to cut it off and made a physical gesture.

My advice to you is find that clip then tell us if you still think its standard OBAMA campaign tactic. But if you've seen it and still give us your infinite wisdom that its still an OBAMA campaign tactic then God bless you.

Posted by: llewis40 | July 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson is no role model....it's well documented about his affairs and he is pure racist. I am all for a black President - how about Condi Rice? Or Bill Cosby? Not a socialist man (who happens to be black) - OBAMA. The bottom line is that this is the greatest country on earth...although imperfect...and we at least can right wrongs (as we have). We are all equal...the Bush Administration is the most diverse one to date (I know...non white that aren't democrats are white). But...facts are facts...qualified people is the key. The statistics about the "black community" are disturbing, true, and are not related to skin color (other colored people - whites - have the same problems). The key is...we need to quit forcing diversity down everyone's throat and talk about ourselves as Americans....that take ACCOUNTABILITY (Sorry Jesse - not in your vocabulary) and RESPONSIBILITY. Don't like your neighborhood....change it. Don't buy into the premise that the government will solve your problems because yours are unique because you are unique...and you are best suited to solve your problems.

But alas...a vast majority of 'black america" buys the demorat lie.

Reparations? One way ticket out of the US and give up your citizenship....if we're so bad...go somewhere else. Here..there is opportunity if you're willing to pull yourself up and make it happen. And I can respect that. Skin color matters not...if you're a deadbeat dad your're a deadbeat dad. If you're a welfare rat living off the system you're a welfare rat living off the system - white, black, yellow, whatever.

Posted by: MakeUsProud | July 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

The reason Obama can say this is simple... There are no outside kids popping up for him, like there are for Bill Cosby and Jesse Jackson. These guys need to practice what the preach to others.

Posted by: ramblin' | July 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

This was part of the Obama campaign strategy to take the focus off Obama's speech today. He did not want America to hear he told America's today that instead of worrying about illegals speaking English, we should be teaching our children Spanish. This is inline with his policy of American's being able to speak the language of the country they visit.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

O Lord! How long!

How long, O Lord, must we listen to these preachers apologies concerning Obama, the Fresh Democrat, the Oh-So-Fresh Democrat, Can-Do-No-Wrong Democrat!

I betcha Al Sharpton wouldn't apologize!

Posted by: DaTourist | July 9, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

O Lord! How long!

How long, O Lord, must we listen to these preachers apologies concerning Obama, the Fresh Democrat, the Oh-So-Fresh Democrat, Can-Do-No-Wrong Democrat!

I betcha Al Sharpton wouldn't apologize!

Posted by: DaTourist | July 9, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

O Lord! How long!

How long, O Lord, must we listen to these preachers apologies concerning Obama, the Fresh Democrat, the Oh-So-Fresh Democrat, Can-Do-No-Wrong Democrat!

I betcha Al Sharpton wouldn't apologize!

Posted by: DaTourist | July 9, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Well. Its rare that i will watch that misbegotten FOX network but I had to hear it for myself on O Riley.

Jackson is a utter fool. Saying OBAMA is disrespecting black people and he would like to cut OBAMA's n##ts off. Then Jackson makes a gesture like cutting them off.

That was so damn stupid. So unnecessary. OBAMA was telling the truth. To many Fatherless black children, they should make their kids turn off the TV and study. No different from what Cosby said some time ago.

I know that Jackson is from another time. Lynchings, sitting in the back of the bus. pure, raw rasim. Hell I'm 47 and ive had a taste of it when I was young. But Jackson and others like him need to know those days are not gone but not a part of the absolute norm. OBAMA respects all this. That comment was nothing but pure, personal hate coming from Jackson . And OBAMA is a good man to accept his apology.

I love politics but I would never run for any office. Back in the early days of this young nation men would challenge others to a duel if they felt besmirched by another man. I would support such a thing. I wouldn't let Jackson get away with that crap and I would never talk to him or any of his supporters again.

Jackson is a absolute fool. And stupid to go on the FOX network anyway.

Posted by: llewis40 | July 9, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

phila_guy

I don't hear Jackson complaining. He knew he screwed up. You're full of it.

Posted by: Arny | July 9, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

It'll be interesting, once the whole tape gets out, who gets thrown under the bus (or their nuts cut off) over this. Do Blacks want the victimhood offered by Jackson, or to be lectured by Obama about living up to the standards of White culture?

Posted by: rpatoh | July 9, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Jesse burned his own relevancy long ago. His comments are atrocious.

Posted by: geez | July 9, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Any Democrat who is dumb enough to make a comment like that to Fox news and expect that it is a private comment should not hold any prominent position within the party.


Posted by: Don | July 9, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

An interesting obvious difference here in how each view the root or source of the problem. For Obama its personal responsibility as opposed to Jackson claim moral responsibility of government. Clearly the enactment and enforcement of laws is what the government does.It is governmental responsibility. Black men like all other men must take personal responsibility and navigate their lives in obediance to those laws as well as being lawful in their effort to see a change in which ever of those same laws that are an impediment to their progress. There really is no other way to keep hope alive.

Posted by: hennesi | July 9, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

This is standard Obama campaign tactics. Anyone who says anything negative about Obama is immediately trashed within a day.

Posted by: phila_guy | July 9, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Three points:
1. unwed motherhood is now at 70% among African Americans that is a fatherless rate of 70%. (Sounds so shocking it appears to be an exaggerated number but it is not.)

2. Jesse Jackson knocked up his assistant while being married to someone else and she gave birth to his fatherless child. He is part of the role model deficit and is one one of the contributors to the problem. No wonder he resents Obama's comments he doesn't want anyone pointing out that what America needs is role model who walk the walk not big talkers like Jesse.

3. Obama spoke up albeit very gently about this pandemic of babies born to Black mothers where the coward men who fathered the children are generally AWOL.

4. Iraq is nothing compared to the devastation wrecked upon America by this pandemic of Fatherless children. These beautiful babies are born to moms with 70% reduced income possibilities, their children are now at high risk for drug abuse, woman abuse, child abuse to them and from them when they grow up, higher suicide rates, very high school drop out rates, higher percentages entering the penal system,much more likely to die young and highly likely to repeat the pattern.

this is the number problem America faces not he mortgage crisis or iraq.

If anything Barak spoke to softly of the problem. Bill Cosby is one of the only ones to speak out with the strength needed and is usually denounced for speaking out.

Yes Hispanics have a 43% fatherless birth rate now and whites 22%. Both also huge rates compared to the 1950's when white fatherless childbirth was 5% and fatherless births among African Americans 15%.

Posted by: Mike from reno | July 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

What you folks don't get is why JJ sr. is really mad... it's cause it's not a black man saying this to the black churches according to JJ sr. He is considered an Arab to many AA's. The white public just don't get it.

Posted by: Kefa | July 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

PS: The reason Sen. Obama got away with criticizing black men for their reluctance to be responsible fathers (and, e.g., Bill Cosby did not) was that he was talking to a black audience, iirc - so he spoke TO them, not just ABOUT them. Or am I wrong?
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Yes, I think you are wrong. I think it's wrong to throw Bill Cosby, who has done a lot of good things for Black people (including being a good role model) under the bus to further your point about Obama.

Posted by: Ed | July 9, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

The comment by Fat Al is offensive, but the more you complain about it, the more unique hits this site will get, and the less likely WaPo will actually think about taking the comment down.

WaPo has no interest in reasonable discourse on its comments sites. They are only interested in hits to increase their ad revenue. If you are truly outraged by Fat Al's comments, then STOP ADDING COMMENTS TO THIS THREAD!

Alternatively, you can e-mail the ombudsman (Deborah Howell) at ombudsman@washpost.com.

Posted by: Just wondering | July 9, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

To the commenter who asked why is it that Black people can comment about any and everyone, but when a white person does the same thing, s/he gets lambasted... The reason is quite simple: Since the beginning of the United States as a nation, the white race has held all the cards. Because of their very history as oppressors of literally everyone else in the country, they lack the moral high ground.

Think about it: 200 years ago, your ancestors owned mine. 75 to 50 years ago, your recent ancestors - great grandparents - were lynching mine, denying us our civil rights, denying us equal economic opportunity, spraying us with high-powered water hoses and menacing us with German shepherds, tar, feathers, nooses and bombings. Without fear of repercussion, I might add. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurman *just* died; Robert Byrd is still alive. Two of them "recanted"; the third did not. Given this very recent history, if a white person came up to me and tried to tell me how to "fix" the Black community, I would tell him or her ex*actly* where to get off and start looking around for my 40 acres, the mule and the money my family is owed for all that free labor (minus the then-going rate for food and board).

The *reason* Sen. Obama can make these statements and "get away with it," is that at least he has some experience of what he speaks. It happened to him. He has lived it, as has his wife. This is not to say that there are not broken homes, drugs and an enjoyment of the ghetto lifestyle in the white community, but it's just not the same.

I'm not trying to say that every white person in America has ancestors that owned other people, or that they have not been adversely affected in their communities by drugs, laziness, fatherlessness, violence or what-have-you. But the Black community was deliberately and systematically destroyed by the white community. There is an element of choice that is absent from our side that was not mirrored on your side.

Posted by: Jen DC | July 9, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I know that if my job got phased out, like Jackson's I would be mad too. I.e. Obama's nomination being the end of the civil rights movement.

Posted by: DCDave | July 9, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

it's impossible to criticize obama in this arena. he had every excuse to fold his tent, but he took his gifts and maximized them. he is right and justified in calling for black men to happily take on the challenge, which includes a call for social justice. JJ Sr was a man and a leader of his time. but, now all americans can get sold out if we are not vigilant. this is why obama's call for moving ahead as a nation is so on the money for today. i think that most people realize that the issues that challenge black america, will challenge the whole of america- if you wait 5 minutes. JJ Sr should take up golf and chill a little.

Posted by: jacade | July 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE THE DEROGATORY POST ABOVE???

Posted by: post removal | July 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I think this controversy, whatever Rev. Jackson said, could even help Sen. Obama to win over whites who think people like Rev. Jackson or Rev. Wright are engaging in racism the other way round - he can become an even more "post-racial" candidate than before by denouncing their rants by finding the right words (which I am sure he will) and come out stronger.

PS: The reason Sen. Obama got away with criticizing black men for their reluctance to be responsible fathers (and, e.g., Bill Cosby did not) was that he was talking to a black audience, iirc - so he spoke TO them, not just ABOUT them. Or am I wrong?

Posted by: om4n | July 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

mojo3

the people of America want a change, a different direction, then the crap that has been given to us these last 8 damn years. And we are about to elect BARACK OBAMA as our new President of these United States. A black man. A black man. Some whites fear the idea of a black being able to send their children into a war. Dictating them on how to spend their money, raising or lowering their taxes. Some whites cant accept that.

Now some blacks like Jackson who are from the old school see OBAMA as a bit of a threat. He has some liberal tendencies but not as deep as Jackson's. he feels insulted because OBAMA wont tow the respect line , or kiss his ringed finger .
Same with that ambulance chaser of a fool Sharpton. I truly believe they would love to see OBAMA lose . But its a waste.

OBAMA will be elected no matter the vile hatred being thrown his way.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

My questions is why did Jesse Jackson take the bait that FOX News set out? He should know better!

Posted by: marcpenn1 | July 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Thoughtful: It has to be an interesting, remarkable story behind Michelle Obama's accomplishment indeed; being the product of two uneducated working class Black parents. Unfortunately she is not the story now because she is not the one running for public office ...her husband Obama is. But I look forward to one day reading this remarkable woman's story.

Posted by: LAE | July 9, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Bill O'Reilly in 5 minutes, I can't wait...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse


Just out of curiosity someone please enlighten me. How can Senator Obama make certain statements about society and it is taken as a progressive healthy message and Dr.Poussaint and Bill Cosby write a book on the same topic and are lambasted?
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Obviously, you didn't get your kool-aid.

Posted by: Ed | July 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Because Obama is trying to do something about the problem instead of just talking and complaining and collect book royalties... try that for a start

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Just out of curiosity someone please enlighten me. How can Senator Obama make certain statements about society and it is taken as a progressive healthy message and Dr.Poussaint and Bill Cosby write a book on the same topic and are lambasted?

Posted by: | July 9, 2008 7:52 PM

Posted by: J from VA | July 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Double standard? You mean like, being lambasted and criticized widely for his comments? Umm did you read the article? If "Blacks can say anything", then how did this become news? I think that "Rev" Jackson will suffer the consequences for his idiotic comments as did that Robert Johnson.

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Is anyone really surprised by the jealousy and hate that Jesse Jackson has inside of him? Is anyone surprised by the double standards we have in this country- that blacks can say anything about whites or other blacks, but GOD FORBID a white person says something negative, let alone as disgusting as what Jackson said, about a black person.

I am fed up with the hypocrisy and the double standards and reverse racism that is becoming part and parcel of our society. WHY AREN'T BLACKS being held to the same standards as others???????

Posted by: J from VA | July 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiosity someone please enlighten me. How can Senator Obama make certain statements about society and it is taken as a progressive healthy message and Dr.Poussaint and Bill Cosby write a book on the same topic and are lambasted?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

How terribly sad. Some are either running scared for fear of him winning the presidental election...thus, they sprew whatever hate and venom they can; twist and turn; misrepresent what Obama or his wife say and develop their statements into negatives. And yet, others, like the "Rev." Jackson (I no longer look up to him as a man of the cloth, re his hidden love child), must display their jealousy and displeasure for his being successful in this run for president.
Good Lord! When will all this end? How can so many forget the saying: "Love your fellow man/woman?" We have much work ahead of us, as a people and as people of these United States of America.

A Black Female Senior who prays for CHANGE!

Posted by: mojo3 | July 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Interestingly, it's Michelle Obama's life journey that you would think would provide the biggest fuel to critics promoting "accountability." I'm a huge Obama supporter, but even I concede that Barack's life was aided by his biracial status and the opportunities and networks he took advantage of due to his part "whiteness." I don't begrudge Barack's accomplishments in the least. However, the all black girl growing up in inner city Chicago attending Princeton and Harvard Law with two uneducated parents is the real story. What did Michelle's parents do right? Oh I know...her father worked hard and her mother instilled person discipline and demanded scholastic achievement. What's not right about those ingredients for success?

Posted by: Thoughtful | July 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone really surprised by the jealousy and hate that Jesse Jackson has inside of him? Is anyone surprised by the double standards we have in this country- that blacks can say anything about whites or other blacks, but GOD FORBID a white person says something negative, let alone as disgusting as what Jackson said, about a black person.

I am fed up with the hypocrisy and the double standards and reverse racism that is becoming part and parcel of our society. WHY AREN'T BLACKS being held to the same standards as others???????

Posted by: D. Rodriguez | July 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Jackson, why they call him a Rev. I don't know. But this is line with his HymieTown comment, and all the other crap that comes out of his mouth. He needs to get a job.

Posted by: almost | July 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

jonnirare.

yes he's bi-racial. but I assure you if a white person is walking down a street and sees OBAMA coming around the corner the FIRST thing that will come to their mind is a black man. Then with further observation the next thing would be a fair, light skinned black man. Or a west Indian? creole. if that white person knows anything about ethnicity.

Anyway, to the white man's eyes OBAMA is a black man and most wont sit and think about his mixed heritage. Ive no doubt of that.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"And, while we're on the subject...
Why does Barack aim his dumb and pompous criticism at Black people only?
Could it be that he wants to ingratiate himself with white racists?

Posted by: | July 9, 2008 7:36 PM"

Yeah because anytime he's made a comment about white people in general it's gone down real well...

He's talking about what he knows about--namely the lack of fathers in African-American households. If you've ever seen him deliver remarks concerning everyone's need to take personal responsibility he gets a standing ovation from black, brown, and white people alike.

Posted by: phi | July 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

It - the black problem in America - is complicated. And it is not.

People need to take personal responsibility and graduate from high school, stay off drugs, hang out with the right kids, and work hard to have the chance to make it. Success is like climbing a mountain: it takes a lot of small steps to rise but you can fall quickly.

I honestly believe that part of the problem is mollycoddling that goes on. Because fathers are around to keep kids in line. And because the well meaning people in those kids lives err on the side of fuzzy love, not tough love.

Life is hard. It is supposed to be. Kids aren't supposed to play video games, eat Taco Bell and smoke dope all day.

The people who enable the ghetto lifestyle need to understand that while they may very well be providing love they are not providing help.

Personal Responsibility. Life is tough. It is a test. Keep the faith. Get a job. Be good to other people. Stick by your family.

Obama has it right.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Correct...Jackson was "talking" to a reporter.

Posted by: Arny | July 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama is nothing more then a puppet and his supporters are no better. He has ruined the Democratic party with the help of Dean, Pelosi and Brazille. If he is on the top of the ticket my vote will go to McCain. Obama is not qualified and I do not trust him. I will vote country over Party.

Puma Party

Posted by: Puma-SF | July 9, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Jackson was walking to a reporter when he made the comment but he thought the microphone was off. What? He was planning on lying about what he said to reporter after reporter would obviously write a story? WTF. Jackson, you and other black leaders are determined to bring Obama down because you are jealous and don't want to lose your relevance and position in the black community. Disgusting. If you ruin this for him, we will NEVER forgive you.

Posted by: Arny | July 9, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

It appears that Jesse Jackson Jr. is myopic in his view of Black victimhood and speaks nothing about personal responsibility. I think that Obama is right on to ask Black guys to step up to the plate. For so long so many Black guys have shirked their responsibility in terms of their families esp., out of wedlock children, etc. It's high time to stop hiding from the truth and saying it doesn't exist or either blaming the powers within for their problems. As long as we can't have an open and honest discussion about this topic -nothing will ever get solved. So I applaud Obama for his efforts.

Posted by: LAE | July 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry Reverend, this will blow over just like your "hiemetown" comments. No one is going to demand that you be fired or cast down. You should know by now, this is America, only whites can be racists here.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Jackson also made an off-hand comment about cutting off a part of Obama's anatomy.

Posted by: FS | July 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I find it VERY INTERESTING that some of the posters who are obsessed with HATE for Sharpton & Jackson (and blame them for everything), NOW credit Jackson for "telling the truth". This just goes to show how much these sick folks hate Obama.
Anyone with aby sense knows that Jackson loves the limelight and that he is jealous because Obama has succeeded where he failed AND that Obama has not given him a prominent role in his campaign.
SO ALL OF YOU HATERS NEED TO GET A LIFE!

Posted by: Liz | July 9, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

UPDATE- McCain is really old.
When he gives a speech, it sounds like my grandpa reading a bed-time story.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Man. Both Jesse and Clinton just cant take it. OBAMA is now the undisputed leader of the democratic party and neither one can accept it. To bad, so damn sad. I like Jesse but his politics are to back in the damn day for my tastes. Clinton, well, he's pissed that his wife didnt get the nomination and he's a bit of a bigot.

Freedom of speech as of now comes with a cost. You need to think before you speak your mind and say something so stupid and asinine. Cell phones, recorders and instant news abound in this world today. Ill have to look at the news tonight to see exactly what Jackson said. but you have to be careful. or be lambasted all over the news.

Posted by: llewis40 | July 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

You know, it is a very complicated issue. I am sorry Jesse said what he did, he has done great good for this country. I voted for him too and worked on his campaign. The problem is Obama is not black, he is bi-raicial. He doesn't have the slavery history, although he understands it. He is also extremely intelligent and was raised NOT in the ghettos or rural squalor that millions of African Americans have lived in for generations now. You could argue that these are some reasons why he "made it" while so many millions never get out from under. It is really not enough to say, "Don't play the victim, pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, be responsible." I have taught in inner city schools for 36 years so I know what I am talking about. The educational system, the criminal justice system, the institutionalized racism that still exists everywhere, really need to be addressed and corrected. Like Yeterday. Jesse knows this and wants BO to get more into this. Barack has had a different experience. He doesn't feel it like Jesse and that is the truth. Neither one is being fake or selling out or anything, they just have different perspectives. I really do wish people would understand this.

Posted by: jonnirae | July 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Fat Al...your name says it all. You need a date dude. You sound like you're desperate for attention. Now go away and shut up. This is all you're gonna get. Pig.

Posted by: Lil Susie | July 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad that Jesse said what he did.
I find it obnoxious that Obama takes it upon himself to tell others how to bring up their children.
Who the hell does he think he is?
Do your job, Barack. Stop voting for right-wing garbage like FISA.
And keep your grubby mitts off of other peoples bedrooms and kitchens.

And, while we're on the subject...
Why does Barack aim his dumb and pompous criticism at Black people only?
Could it be that he wants to ingratiate himself with white racists?

What a charlatan.
What a creep.

Thank you Jesse for saying what you did - even though you are chicken to stick by it for fear of alienating whomever you are afraid of alienating.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Jackson was speaking the truth about Obama in what he thought wasn't being recorded. Obama is not going to do anything for African Americans, except get their votes. But, if he starts to lose them, then he will pander to this group just like every other group, saying whatever he needs to say to get them to vote for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Meltdown.

Posted by: KansasGirl | July 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

So funny! I guess Jesse is "aborting" his own kind.

Posted by: KansasGirl | July 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

That Jesse, he can't help it- he was born with a foot on his mouth.

Posted by: Fred | July 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

After his caustic, sexist, race-baiting comments about Hillary Clinton, I'd say Jesse Jackson Jr. doesn't have much room to complain about others being "divisive," "ugly," or "demeaning." He's a thug and a hypocrite, plain and simple.

Posted by: JK | July 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

My questions is why did Jesse Jackson take the bait that FOX News set out? He should know better!

Posted by: marcpenn | July 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

If this wasn't a Sister Souljah moment then Obama is still right. Black people need to address their issues and faith and personal responsibility are the two best places to start.

People need to start graduating from high school and start to live productive lives. It is in their best interest, it is in all of our best interest. We all lose when a young black man is thrown in jail.

The question of how to change behavior is a legitimate one. Look at AA: there is a faith component and a support group that knows, if dennis leary and rescue me is to be believed, that it is ultimately up to the individual to change their ways.

Obama knows what is going on. And he has a plan to fix it. Jackson had his chance and he didn't do as much with it as he could have. Hymietown? Jews should have been, and for the most part are, the blacks biggest allies. They understand racism. They have suffered from it and, usually, oppose it with every fiber of their being. Because they understand the larger, deeper issue.

If this isn't a planned sister souljah moment then it is a sad one. for rev jackson.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes, this is all too silly. The election campaign has actually gotten somewhat boring in the last month or so.

Go Obama, rah rah

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | July 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Well said, dmw. Obama is pushing a quantum step forward for both black and white America, IMO.

Posted by: Mark | July 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Icons seem to settle into a rather unhappy decline after a time. They stop being icons of whatever they symbolized and become husks, trying to remain relevant and meaningful when they ought to retire and do good works for the rest of their lives.

Obama will survive this but Jesse Jackson has inserted a wedge between them. I am glad his son had the courage to stand up and make it clear that he stands with the future, not with the past.

Posted by: Karen | July 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Curtis: You inbred, single toothed, racist hick, go have sex with your mom and pig and a swig of moonshine.

Posted by: Zoe | July 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

nuts?? Are you kidding? That may be bad, but it's also so lame!

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | July 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for the people caught up on this type of character assasination. What Rev. Jesse Jackson said is more of a reflection on him than on Senator Obama. Maybe Senator's Obama's comments have hit home with those who have chosen to appear one way to the public and live another way...ouch! Living an authentic life means embracing the truth about yourself at some time in your life. Too bad some people will focus on others when the call to change is really about them.
Go Obama - you have my vote!

Posted by: woodbridge1 | July 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"NoduleS" ??

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | July 9, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

nuts

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"Nose hairS" ??

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | July 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

What does n**s stand for? "nads"?

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | July 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

This is good news, really. Whatver you think about Obama's politics, he is the first recognized black leadership figure to reject the permanent victim-mentality vampires like Jackson insist other blacks maintain. That is a triumph for America, especially African-America. Blacks have not had leaders exemplifying public service, intellect, and who inspire self confidence and self-reliance, instead of victimhood in a very long time. So, exit Wright, exit Jackson, and all the rest; here comes the future.

Posted by: dmw | July 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I've always said that the two greatest racist in America are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and Jesse has now proven me to be correct. These two need to be deported to Africa where they belong.

Posted by: Curtis | July 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson has the right to criticize anyone he chooses. He's paid his dues and is entitled to an opinion.
Unlike Obama, Jesse's opinions remain constant and u-turn isn't in his vocabulary. His policies never vary according to which way the wind is blowing and when he ran for president he was honest about his intentions.
He spoke to many large crowds during his run for the presidency but never asked that his very presence needed to be accomodated by using the Denver Broncos 70,000 football stadium for a speech.
Either his ego is not as big as Obama's or Obama just needs that much space for his amazing u-turns.

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | July 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Must drive you nuts Jonathan to hear someone critize the great messiah! lol

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | July 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Well, hey, I am not sure I have to care about any of this at all (and neither should you, probably).
I will be taking the rest of the year off from viewing the political comedy we call "Elections"...see you when inflation reaches 10%!

Posted by: wcmillionairre | July 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I am a little tired of Obama's constant lecturing myself. First he tells us that we are a country of racists, when in fact he was a member of a racist-anti-American church for 20+ years .. and then he wants to tell us what our values should be as he plugs his faith-based expanded grants ... votes for FISA and meets with Christian fundamentalists. Tell us what you are going to do about jobs and the economy ... and the oil prices ... that's what we want to hear!!

Posted by: Michael Cardenas | July 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

When is someone black enough? I drop of black blood makes a person black. Many Blacks were in the same situation Obama is no only a few decades ago, he happens to have a white mother and an African father. I guess we should blame Obama for that, he had a choice.
Look at the racist people who have posted to this site. Let us test you blood...how many blacks "crossed over"-- Possibly that's why your hatred is so deep!

Posted by: OpenmindedMD | July 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

just saw the video on cnn and did a rewind and frame-by-frame viewing.

jackson: see, barack been, um...

glances up to make sure that the camera is active

jackson: talking down to black people... on this faith based...

C'mon now. The other guy was biting his lip to stop from laughing.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

That was nice & respectful of Rev. Jackson to apologize.

Now, will Rev. Jackson & Al Sharpton kindly apologize to the entire Duke University Lacrosse team??

By the way, the entire team, coaches & trainers were all found innocent.

Posted by: P. Mason | July 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

What's this really all about? Jackson losing his influence and significance in the black community. I'm a strong Obama supporter but his and other black leaders statements over the couse of the past year have made it pretty clear to me that they are worried about their own standing and relevance and not about helping Obama or their cause.

Posted by: Arny | July 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I disagree that this is a flare-up akin to the Rev. Wright firefight which undoubtedly was harmful to Sen. Obama.

Obama owns the Jesse Jackson crowd in this election. I don't picture them going for Sen. McCain or Mr. Barr.

And Sen. Obama wins credibility with the very, very many Americans who are sick and tired of the Revs. Jackson/Sharpton schtick. He doesn't even need to say anything. Having been crudely attacked by Jesse Jackson, in the eyes of those very many voters (of whom I am one), will be for Obama a badge of honor.

Posted by: OfficerMancuso | July 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Circular firing squad...Beautiful stuff. Thanks Jesse!

Posted by: Aaron Burr | July 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

As an african-american, I have watched Jesse Jackson and many post MLK "black leaders" organize boycotts, marches and incite great conflagrations for every little slight including the Don Imus non-issues. Yet they remain virtually silent on the misogynistic, self-hatred , self-destructive , anti-intellectualism culture that is pervasive among the lower socioeconomic classes within black society and among many of our youths. Jackson and many others were late to criticize the gangsta rap, black on black crime, absent fathers and the gangsta rap culture that glorifies many of these pathlogies

Rather than disparaging Mr. Obama for what is an open secret in black society. He should applaud Mr. Obama's willingness to address an overlooked pathology caused by racism but perpetuated by our own self-inflicted wounds.

Just because we don't say anything doesn't mean that the majority culture is not aware of our problems. By ignoring them, we actually lend fodder to the many racists in the republican party who pull them out every four years to scare the electorate away from the democratic party.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

According the Drudge Report, Rev. Jackson said, regarding Obama, that he wanted to "cut his n**s out."

The news here is that Obama has n**s.

Posted by: Bud | July 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Is Obama black enough to become president? Jesse Jackson got caught saying, "how dare Obama criticize black males." Obama is just a cynical opportunist pretending to be black. He was raised by his white family and is only black as an accident of birth.

He has used his "blackness" to get support from the black churches, and then dumps them when it no longer is convenient or politically expedient. Just say No Bama in November! Obama will use anyone or say anything to get elected.

Posted by: alance | July 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"Why can't black people disagree with other black people?"

I'm sure they can, and I'm sure they do. But the fact that 90% of blacks supported Clinton, Gore and Kerry, suggests that there is a broad agreement in the black community on politics.

Think about it: Jesse Jackson was born in the '41 in the South Carolina. That was the era of lynching. People learned to be careful about what they said- and how they even looked at white women. He ain't 70. He's 60's, and he's working it for his buddy Obama. Gore won the Nobel and now... the Oscar for the best supporting actor goes to Jesse Jackson in his role in the motion picture "Obama isn't a black activist"

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS MASTERED THE TELEPROMPTER

BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FEED HIM INFORMATION HE DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT


OH YEAH, I FEEL SAFE


MICHELLE SAID THEY COULD BARELY PAY FOR THE BALLET LESSONS BEFORE HE WROTE HIS 45 YEAR OLD AUTO BIOGRAPHY - THE EGO MANIAC

OH YEAH, LET'S GIVE HIM BILLIONS OF OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS

MAYBE WE CAN ALL TAKE BALLET LESSONS


HAAHHAAHA

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Jesse Jackson, I will never vote for Obama and I'm glad that Jesse doesn't like him. It shows character. Obama is just using people to get power, he doesn't care about others. It's too bad Jesse's son is running Obama's campaign, or Jesse could run away from Obama for good.

Posted by: Lynn E | July 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA THINKS HE'S THE "PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENT"

WHY HOLD AN ELECTION ???

HE'S RENTING A STADIUM

BECAUSE HIS EGO WON'T FIT INTO ANYTHING SMALLER !!!


OBAMA = CHANGE YOU CAN BARELY KEEP TRACK OF

MUCH LESS "BELIEVE" IN


OBAMA LIED HIS WAY TO THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINATION

AND HE'LL LIE HIS WAY INTO THE FUTURE


CAN WORLD LEADERS TRUST ANYTHING HE SAYS IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CANNOT ??


NOPE


THAT IS WHY NOVEMBER = NOBAMA

INCOMPETENT LIAR PUPPET


Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what either Jackson says? They are a couple of racist nitwits. Just the kind who will have center stage if the affirmative action rookie is elected.

Posted by: LarryG62 | July 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I find an inconsistency between Rep. Jackson's support for parental involvement and his dumping his own son into a marginal DC daycare program. (How much time is the boy's mother spending in Chicago these days?) By the way, how much time is Jesse Jackson Sr. spending with his love child?

Posted by: Karl | July 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

"Why won't anyone tell us what he said?"

It'll be on H & C tonight. So they say.

Posted by: Chuckamok | July 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

"What is it with aging Black ministers? Do they secretly resent a much younger Black man rising so quickly on the political stage?"

I think you've nailed it here.

Posted by: Chuckamok | July 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The alternative to the Sister Souljah moment theory is that, behind the scenes, Jackson is pushing Obama to support the old school entitlement programs, which, presumably, their friends in Chicago would benefit from.

Obama has made faith and personal responsibility the cornerstone for his black people empowerment plans.

Now, that is change that doesn't reach into my pocket. And I like it.

Obama can get away with it because he isn't racked by white guilt. Also, because he understands that black people's problems are due to the fact that a high percentage of them aren't graduating from high school and going on to develop productive lives. None of the so-called black leaders of the past have been successful in revitalizing the inner cities.

And if the price of gas keeps going us, the inner cities definitely need to be revitalized - and we all have to get along.

But I still think this is political theatre. Sister Souljah. It's probably as fake as Jackson's claim that MLK died in his arms.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Why can't black people disagree with other black people? Blacks are individuals, why do we have to have think as a group all of the time. I do not know what Jackson's remarks are, but maybe Obama should be criticized; just like any other politician black or white or any other race.

Posted by: B ForReal | July 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Fat Al is sure going to be surprised on judgment day when he realizes that Jesus is dark skinned, dark eyes, and dark hair.
Do your biblical homework....it's true.

Posted by: Prophet2 | July 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Please remove the 6:40 pm post from FAT AL. It is extrememly offensive.

Posted by: Anon | July 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Why won't anyone tell us what he said? Centureship

Posted by: Bill | July 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

What is it with aging Black ministers? Do they secretly resent a much younger Black man rising so quickly on the political stage? It becomes more and more apparent that the likes of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who have spend their entire adult life using devisive language are now becoming irrelevant to younger, more inclusive individuals like Barack Obama.
Obama has risen above the fray, Jackson should wash his mouth out with soap.

Posted by: A.Lincoln | July 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Why haven't you removed the derogatory remarks from Fat Al? He obviously is stuck on Stupid!!!!

Posted by: Bill | July 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

DEM NIGGAR BOYZ SHUR AR FUNNY!!!!

SEND THE BLAK SCUM TO MEXICO!!!!

Posted by: FAT AL | July 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Obama will consolidate his power by giving Jesse Jackson Jr the HUD appointment or if he'll extend his network and tap a popular latino in Texas or Florida.

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

This is Obama's sister souljah moment. I'm figuring that the whole thing was orchestrated.

Good idea though. Make Obama look like more of a centrist figure to white people. If Carter had been half as cunning as Obama, we wouldn't be in this energy crisis, we'd have health care, Reagan would never have been elected, and we still would have won the cold war.

So Jesse Jackson Sr. thinks that Barack Obama is being too hard on blacks...

Hmmm. If I were Obama and I needed a sister souljah moment, who would i ask to deliver it? A black man I trust a lot? One who is hated by white people? Where would I want the thing to happen? Fox News? Brilliant!

Posted by: JR, Boston | July 9, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson has, no doubt, done a lot of good in moving along the cause of racial equality. I remember especially his eloquent calls for black kids to have self-respect and pride.

But his ego and his penchant for chasing the TV cameras have worn thin. He should retire.

Posted by: Chuckamok | July 9, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse


This is funny. I distinctly remember Rev Jesse Jackson, Jr. giving black parents this same advice here in Chicago years ago, yet this is the first I've heard of his father.

Posted by: Chicago1 | July 9, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

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