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Waiting for Obama


The reception desk at the Obama headquarters in Chicago in July. (Jasmin Shah/The Washington Post)

By Dan Balz
DENVER -- And so we wait. We wait here in Denver and in Washington and in Chicago and across the country. We wait for a leak, a wink, a cryptic message, a curious quotation, an unusual movement by a private plane, a slip of the tongue by Joe Biden.

Give credit to Barack Obama's team. So far they've orchestrated the vice presidential roll out deftly -- delaying it until the eve of the convention to assure that they dominate the last days before opening night with real news, while steadily ratcheting up the frenzy of speculation in the days beforehand.

The rumors are rife. Hard information precious. The candidate reportedly has called the losers -- but who? Any on the presumed shortest of short lists? Has he called Biden or Evan Bayh or Tim Kaine to say, 'Sorry, pal'?

Has he called some of those in the outer reaches of consideration who were not really in the hunt? A knowledgeable source said Friday morning that Bill Richardson was advised in the last 36 hours that he was not likely to be chosen. Who else might have gotten a call of condolences isn't known.

Has he called Hillary Clinton to tell her flat out that she was under consideration but that she did not make the cut? Or, if she was never under consideration, was she called simply as a courtesy to his most formidable rival and now his most important surrogate? Now that would be a piece of information that could move the markets.

Note to media: beware of false indicators and head fakes by the campaign. In 1984, Walter Mondale's campaign announced late one night that the candidate had made his decision and called his running mate -- and then sat back and watched the media scramble to find out who it was. One news organization discovered, seemingly authoritatively, that Geraldine Ferraro was on the manifest of a flight to Minneapolis. Except Mondale had sent a private plane to pick her up. Right name, wrong signal.

The question is whether the campaign that likes to break convention has another surprise to spring. Certainly the idea of sending out the name of the vice presidential running mate by text message is clever -- another way for Obama's tech savvy operation to gather in thousands and thousands of cell phone numbers to add to its databases.

But that doesn't qualify as a real surprise. The real surprise would be an 11th-hour, out-of-box selection that would add an exclamation point to this otherwise predictable process, say ... Al Gore!

Nothing suggests that Obama is heading in that direction. For some time, there has been a sense that he will play it safe. Make his selection of someone with solid credentials who raises no alarm bells and who is ready for the rigors of a big convention speech and a national campaign that looks nastier by the day. And then move on and get the focus back where it needs to be, which is on Barack Obama himself.

Aides to the prospective running mates are as anxious for information as the media. All quiet, is the standard response to inquiries. Of course, any of them who actually know something are also sworn to secrecy. But early checks Friday suggested those close to the presumed finalists are truly in the dark.

Obama's camp decided some time ago that they would shorten the vice presidential roll out, not try to draw it out -- at least the public part of it. Announce the name, appear together, hit a couple of states and open the convention. That still appears to be the plan, which means the big rally in Springfield on Saturday, probably something on Sunday and let the convention begin!

But the pre-rollout has been as long or longer than ever, thanks to the media's interest in the story and the Obama campaign's willingness to play the game. Mercifully that phase is coming to an end.

In the mean time, the dustup on Thursday over McCain's houses was a reminder of where this contest is heading once the two conventions end. Thursday was the nastiest day of the 2008 campaign since Obama and Clinton (and John Edwards) debated in Myrtle Beach last January. That was the night that Obama threw Clinton's Wal-Mart connection in her face and she tossed Tony Rezko back at him.

Rezko was back Thursday in a McCain ad that was a response to the Obama campaign's decision to jump on McCain's inability to remember how many homes he and his wife Cindy own. The Page announced: This...Is...War. Perhaps that was not an overstatement.

However much the two candidates lament the tone of their campaign, everything else propels their camps toward confrontation. Each side believes the other continues to cross unacceptable lines, and with each such escalation, the prospects for more increase.

McCain and Obama will find themselves in civil conversation between now and November -- as they were at Saddleback Church last Saturday and as they will be on September 11th in New York and in the debates. But the stakes are now such, with polls showing the race very close, that neither side is going to hold back anything.

Compared to all that, the vice presidential speculation is an enjoyable if maddening digression. Today all the focus is on Obama, in coming days it will be on McCain and his choices. Some reporter will be resourceful or lucky enough to get the first beat. Or perhaps everyone will get the text message at the same moment. As for now, we continue to wait.

Posted at 12:42 PM ET on Aug 22, 2008  | Category:  Dan Balz's Take
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Real Brother here.

Its funny how Idiots are trying to question Obama's qualification to by President by suggesting that he has no experience.The JOB is that of President of the United States,by definition ANYONE who would be qualified for that job would have NOT had EXERIENCE doing that job.Has McCain been President? Has anyone who was running(shut up Hillary)?No, having been a President or having someone else Black or with his experience as President is a non-issue.What we have are a bunch of White Surpemacists, Racists who are by definition STUPID suggesting that the standards of measure they use(someone White,meanspirited,heartless and Dumb who's all for WAR but pro-life)should be applied to all who are vying for the job.
What the White Racists and Supremacists(and Black Man HATING Black lesbians)don't seem to get is that YOUR criteria is not OURS.We couldn't careless about how Racist and cold blooded and mean a President is.Our criteria is ENDING the War in Iraq, getting the economy back on track. Stop pandering to the very rich and ENDING for ever the MYTH that the White Race and Culture is Superior to all others(not necessarily in that order though).White Supremacy gives Whites an entitlement mentality and makes them lazy while it causes Black Self-hatred all of which makes America less productive.So please miss us with the claims that Barack isn't White enough or Conservative or Evil or Mean Spirited enough to be President we don't buy it and never will.
TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | August 23, 2008 4:36 PM

Real Brother here.

The reason that Obama waited until the Racist and White Supremacist Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannity's were off the air before he announced who his running mate was,was done so that these American Hating Idiots wouldn't have the luxury of bashing his choice.You see Obama is simply smarter then these uneducated country bumpkins who have co-opted the American Media and it was Obama's way of sticking it to them.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | August 23, 2008 4:32 PM

He picked his VP. Good for him. From Canada

Posted by: Justadad55+ | August 23, 2008 2:11 AM

I'm sure the man had his reasons, most of which we'll never know. I imagine that the inside baseball stuff was pretty interesting.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 23, 2008 12:27 AM

The Obama campaign has handled this horribly. A Saturday morning announcement will only benefit them if the VP choice is loser...because if they wanted buzz, they have squandered the opportunity.

If they don't step it up at the Convention, the DNC will end up 0 for 3 when facing an election they had no chance of losing.

Posted by: Rocky | August 23, 2008 12:19 AM

I am honored to accept the Vice Presidential nominination and look forward to helping...

Posted by: Ludacris | August 22, 2008 11:19 PM

"You never saw so many phonies in all your life, everybody smoking their ears off and talking about the play so that everybody could hear and know how sharp they were. Some dopey movie actor was standing near us, having a cigarette. I don't know his name, but he always plays the part of a guy in a war movie that gets yellow before it's time to go over the top. He was with some gorgeous blonde, and the two of them were trying to be very blasé and all, like as if he didn't even know people were looking at him. Modest as hell. I got a big bang out of it."

Posted by: Holden Caulfield | August 22, 2008 11:05 PM

Clara Diehlson: It seems to me, after reading all the comments here, that the name callers are all the Obama supporters who can't handle Aspergirl's logic and facts. I think she's far more in touch with reality than you and other Obamabots are comfortable with. Please don't make the mistake of thinking you're fooling any truly reasonable people, because you're not.

Obama is simply NOT presidential material.

Posted by: Lassair | August 22, 2008 10:49 PM

JakeD: Since when has Obama cared about what people think in the first place? He's about manipulating people rather than being honest, that's all. However, I think it's possible that the reason he hasn't announced his choice for VP is because no one is willing to be his choice. Either that or he's beginning to realize just how little support the people of this country are willing to give him. Nah, he's too arrogant to realize that. But maybe the DNC has finally realized that he's unelectable. Maybe that's why he hasn't yet announced his running mate.

Posted by: Lassair | August 22, 2008 10:42 PM

To AsperityGirl:
It is a weak tactic to take valid arguments that you disagree with and belittle them. It doesn't convince anyone, and doesn't make anyone respect you.

Why not use facts instead of insults to make your case? I see going through here you call other people names and making inaccurate generalizations about politics.

On topic:
I'm beginning to think that Caroline Kennedy will be the pick. She's well-respected, intelligent, and would fill all the requirements that Obama laid out. In addition, even the most rabid Clintonista would be less offended by the choice. She's a safe choice, and a creative one.

Posted by: ClaraDiehlson | August 22, 2008 10:42 PM

Marie:

It sure doesn't make sense to wake up half a country full of supporters with that text message on a Saturday morning. Something is not right about this.

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 10:18 PM

If people are holding their breath waiting for Obama's VP then... perhaps... maybe... they need to... um... remember that it's the summer, and though we are at war - two really - life is sweet and should be lived.

Perspective. Breath. Live. We'll be OK- every the crazy old guy can't be as bad as they say, can he be? Lawdy!

Posted by: Black and Proud | August 22, 2008 10:10 PM

Neither one of these fools, Obama nor McCain are helping themselves by not choosing a running mate. People are getting tird of this B.S. If we don't know whom we are voting for we won't vote. This is an election for the President of the United States not a beauty contest or a guessing test. We want to know the facts. We want to know about energy cost, we want to know about health care, we want to know about the economy not a guessing game about who is going to be the V.P. This is all just horse droppings.

Posted by: Old Coot | August 22, 2008 9:58 PM

Yes, but McCain never said "today's the day I will announce my VP candidate," and then not told the public. Obama went back on his word, simple as that.

Posted by: Marie | August 22, 2008 9:54 PM

This delay continues to demonstrate indecisiveness on the part of Barack Husein Obama. He clearly cannot handle the job of President of the United States.
Posted by: Alan Combs | August 22, 2008 3:37 PM

Obviously. While McCain's failure to identify his VP candidate demonstrates his experience and straight talkiness.

Posted by: aleks | August 22, 2008 9:52 PM

Apparently Obama will be announcing his VP pick tomorrow morning. This was such a setup, and honestly it's rather annoying that he made people wait all day long only to say that he will make us wait until tomorrow. I wonder if this foreshadows how he will follow through with his other promises. String us along, and not follow through. It does not inspire confidence in this man's leadership abilities.

Posted by: Marie | August 22, 2008 9:50 PM

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . AL GORE FOR VICE-PRESIDENT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

WE CAN EASE, the economic crisis, the crisis of dependence on foreign energy, decrease the importance of the Middle East, and decrease the climate crisis all at once.

“WE ARE BORROWING money from China, to buy oil from the Persian Gulf, to burn it in ways that destroy our planet.”

THINK OF WHAT the equivalent of $1 per gallon gasoline would to for our economy! . . All because we went to generating all our electricity by 100% renewables!! . . . . Sound to good to be true? – well it isn’t.

WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN T. Boone Pickens and Al Gore??? . . T. Boone wants us to be 20% energy independent in ten years. That slows us down, and he makes a bunch of money off his natural gas holdings. . . . . . Al Gore wants us to be 100% energy independent ten years – and it’s doable.

Yes, be ye a Republican or a Democrat, please visit this site to learn more and add your voice: http://www.wecansolveit.org/

WHY DO WE WANT to do all that much extra offshore drilling in ten years? Why do we want to spend important money to learn now to squeeze oil out of shale in ten years? . . . Why do we want to slow down to 20% electricity generated by renewables when we can have 100%. Why should we need that much oil in ten years? . . . . . WHY?!

WE SHOULD NOT have to need it, and we don’t need to dilute our efforts. We just have to realize that 100% of all our electricity by renewables can be done.

OF COURSE IF WE WOULD RATHER the Germans get all the patents and get the first jump in their economy by having the cheapest energy, then by all means follow swift-boating T. Boone Pickens, John McCain, and the Republicans. Dilute our ability to get cheap energy by renewables by spreading our money around to researching shale, nuclear, and other polluting, expensive sources.

IF WE TRULY DEDICATE ourselves, and our government, to Al Gore’s Ten-Year-Challenge, then we don't need to be slowed down.

http://www.wecansolveit.org/

Posted by: Coldcomfort | August 22, 2008 9:40 PM

It suddenly seems eerily reminiscent of the Kanye West show at Bonaroo...

Posted by: Deja Vu | August 22, 2008 9:38 PM

I would love it if Obama were for real. 8 years of Bush/Cheney leaves me yearning for someone who understands and respects the Constitution. But people, Barack is a marketing phenomenon not a real person with a real track record. He's not post-partisan or post-racial. His personality is his only asset. Yea, yea - Harvard Law School. What legal opinions has the man written? Community organizer - what is this? What poor, impoverished souls did he help with new, innovative government programs? Bipartisan champion? What legislation did he champion - ethics bill - that's weak. So, now Senators don't get their lunch for free. Change agent? Let's look to his record - looks like old fashioned hardball Chicago politics. Wake up Democrats - anyone looks good in comparison to GW. We've lowered our expectations to the point where a first term Senator with no record can claim that he is qualified to lead the free world - and no one laughs.

Posted by: David | August 22, 2008 9:31 PM

AS a white person, Mr. Obama represents to me, a great big "screw you" to all the white bigots of my race.

Too many black people think all white people are racists.
That is false.
I am frequently ashamed of the people of my color.

As Eddie Murphy once said, " The worst nightmare of a white guy, is a black sheriff"

Amen.

Posted by: bobnsri | August 22, 2008 9:16 PM

"From NBC's Andrea Mitchell: As reported in her Nightly News spot, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, according to sources, were told they're out of the running."

The Trail, above, says Richardson was told he wasn't VP pick: "A knowledgeable source said Friday morning that Bill Richardson was advised in the last 36 hours that he was not likely to be chosen."

Unless they're using the stupidly easy cheat of lying, that leaves Sebellius, Chet Edwards (you can use those Obama/Edwards materials!), Biden, Clinton or Some Dark Horse.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 9:13 PM

Shocker it is MCaskill


http://www.goclairevp.4t.com

Posted by: Steven Reed | August 22, 2008 9:07 PM

Real Brother here.

Its funny how Idiots are trying to question Obama's qualification to by President by suggesting that he has no experience.The JOB is that of President of the United States,by definition ANYONE who would be qualified for that job would have NOT had EXERIENCE doing that job.Has McCain been President? Has anyone who was running(shut up Hillary)?No, having been a President or having someone else Black or with his experience as President is a non-issue.What we have are a bunch of White Surpemacists, Racists who are by definition STUPID suggesting that the standards of measure they use(someone White,meanspirited,heartless and Dumb who's all for WAR but pro-life)should be applied to all who are vying for the job.
What the White Racists and Supremacists(and Black Man HATING Black lesbians)don't seem to get is that YOUR criteria is not OURS.We couldn't careless about how Racist and cold blooded and mean a President is.Our criteria is ENDING the War in Iraq, getting the economy back on track. Stop pandering to the very rich and ENDING for ever the MYTH that the White Race and Culture is Superior to all others(not necessarily in that order though).White Supremacy gives Whites an entitlement mentality and makes them lazy while it causes Black Self-hatred all of which makes America less productive.So please miss us with the claims that Barack isn't White enough or Conservative or Evil or Mean Spirited enough to be President we don't buy it and never will.
TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | August 22, 2008 9:07 PM

nbc says byah and kaine told no

Posted by: kmterry91 | August 22, 2008 8:55 PM

ESPN tonight announced they will break with their all sports format to cover the Obama VP announcement 'live"

This is the first time ever the All Sports Network will cover a news event--live!

They plan to take the ABC news feed of the announcement.

That The Power of Obama!

Posted by: bobnsri | August 22, 2008 8:37 PM

So, first there were flip flops and now Obama is stringing along his voters?

When will you people say enough is enough?

He has the maturilty of a six year old.

Vote for an adult. Vote for McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 8:35 PM

my iq being above 70, i don't watch tabloid-cable, but i can imagine those shouting matches are rife with rumors about obama's vp choice. saw news references to drudge passing along a report from a kansas city tv guy that obama/bayh stickers were being printed, as if anybody couldn't just walk in and order bumper stickers. another report had biden reserving two rooms in springfield, as if a real reporter wouldn't know a candidate's staff handles all the room reservations for his entourage, including the press. see the wsj got tricked with a cell phone call that the choice was kaine. all of this is just plain poor journalism and as a practioner of the craft, i am downright ashamed of it. i'm quite satisfied to wait, with cell turned off, until the official announcement.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | August 22, 2008 8:33 PM

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Posted by: zzzzzzzzzzzzz.... | August 22, 2008 8:33 PM

I'm voting for the guy, but this little game of his is really annoying me. I would like a candidate who is straightforward and put his cards on the table. This is so obvious a manipulation that it just makes me mad at his whole crowd.

Posted by: Mike Meyer | August 22, 2008 8:27 PM

Who cares about a VP pick when the "Chosen" one himself is a mere "if" ?
What's all the hype about? Does it make the "annointed" one any more qualified to be the President? The public again is falling prey to the left wing press' desparate attempt for their "annointed" one to take center stage !!! And of course, the more on line members "He" can muster up, the more leverage he has over those other politicians who are hungry for his voter data base. It's all about $$$$$$$$ ...

Posted by: swong | August 22, 2008 8:24 PM

Hey, did you know John McCain was a POW? You probably didn't, because he's so famously private about it. As he said in July, "I am always reluctant to talk about these things."

Yes, shy, reluctant John. But, shockingly, he seems to be coming out of his shell lately. After answering every question at the Rick Warren forum with a story about being a POW, the next day his spokeswoman Nicolle Wallace, former Bush White House staff, issued a statement about whether McCain had heard the questions beforehand: "The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous."

Yeah, doesn't everybody know by now?

"My Friends," please let me fool you again.


Posted by: Alexis | August 22, 2008 8:09 PM

"A Kansas City television station is reporting that a company in that state is producing "Obama-Bayh" bumper stickers. Could that mean that Barack Obama's veep choice is the mild mannered U.S. senator from Indiana...stay tuned."

(http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/146884.asp)

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 8:04 PM

>>alexandriaguy wrote: "My wife is active in Alexandria dem politics, she just heard from a trusted source that it's Bayh"

That wouldn't be surprising. He's a good fit for what Obama would like in a VP.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 7:59 PM

Who cares? He'll pick another stupid liberal. VP candidates don't make any difference in his inexperience and lack of common sense. Today I heard him say that China's infrastructure is better than ours and that many companies are probably looking favorably on Bejing as a place to go. What stupidity! Tell me again, who is out of touch with reality?

Posted by: LarryG | August 22, 2008 7:58 PM

No matter who Barry picks, he won't be elected. Too much slime in his background that we know about. Imagine what we don't know about. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Jane T. | August 22, 2008 7:55 PM

Mr. Obama's running mate will be accepted and greeted with wide acclamation.

Mr. Obama, I believe, has been placed here, at this time, to carry on the work of The Lord.

Posted by: Bob North Smithfield | August 22, 2008 7:49 PM

If Obama is as sick and demented as his supporters on this website, the country will be in real danger should he be elected president.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 7:49 PM

Well Dan, you and all the other WaPo Chauvins for Obama are so intoxicated on his snake oil that you hang on his every word and smile.

"Yes, dear second coming, we,the low lifes of the WaPo, bow to you and kiss your feet!

Glory be to Obama, the savior of us all!"

Posted by: William | August 22, 2008 7:47 PM

Don't knock Cindy Hensley McCain- she is by far, more human than her husband, the mad bomber.

From the beginning of the McCain's political career.

"Back in February of the previous year, as McCain was formulating his plans to run for office, he and Cindy sat down for dinner at the Biltmore with Bill Shover, Tully's right-hand man at the Republic, and his wife. McCain expounded on his political ambitions for the better part of an hour. Toward the end of the discussion, Shover noticed that Cindy hadn't uttered a word. "Cindy, don't you have something you want to say?" Shover asked. This elicited a few incomprehensible grunts, at which point McCain stepped in. "Cindy had oral surgery today, and she's in a lot of pain. She can't talk because she had her jaws wired." Shover was aghast. "My God, why didn't you wait till she got better?" he asked. "Because I wanted to get to know you," McCain said. Cindy just looked on silently.

In retrospect, the dinner stands out a subtle omen. After that first pivotal race, McCain's star would rise faster than he or Jim Hensley could have expected. But Cindy seemed to lose her voice. She almost instantly found Washington oppressive and moved back to Arizona one year into McCain's first term. Once there, she built a largely separate life--her own support network, her own form of service (charities that clear land mines and repair cleft palates for children). And, of course, there is her well-documented addiction to prescription painkillers in the early '90s. According to those reports, it was her parents who finally noticed something amiss. McCain has said he was oblivious. (The McCain campaign did not respond to multiple interview requests.)

These days, the Cindy who accompanies her husband on the stump is still largely mute. Profiles describe her as deeply ambivalent about McCain's run for president, and she gives the impression of dutiful--rather than enthusiastic--participation. With the exception of her poorly received jab at Michelle Obama's patriotism, she's hardly registered in the political conversation.

One evening in early August, I met Cindy's half-sister Kathleen Portalski at her home in a middle-class neighborhood of Phoenix. Kathy is an attractive older woman with sad green eyes and long blond hair, which she was wearing in a ponytail. Her husband, Stan, answered the door and led me into a cluttered living room. A Budweiser clock flanked the doorway.

Before Jim died in 2000, he'd repeatedly indicated that Kathy and the family would be taken care of. But, when the time finally came to sort out his will, the Portalskis ended up with a mere $10,000. Still, Kathy herself seemed less angry than hurt. What she seemed to want most of all, even at 65, was a dad."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=0fd7470d-a41f-4d9e-9328-fd079b476a0a


Posted by: Alexander | August 22, 2008 7:40 PM

My wife is active in Alexandria dem politics, she just heard from a trusted source that it's Bayh

Posted by: alexandriaguy | August 22, 2008 7:34 PM

MCCAIN THE RACIST:

MCCAIN ABOUT ASIANS: "I HATE THE GOOKS, I WILL HATE THEM ALL MY LIFE"

MCCAIN ABOUT BLACKS: "I VOTED AGAINST MLK DAY BECAUSE THIS MAN MADE NEGROES STAY DEPENDENT OF WELFARE" (1979)

MCCAIN'S PASTOR HAGGEE ABOUT JEWS: "GOD SENT HITLER TO SLAUGHTER THOSE DIRTY JEWS AND HE DID US A GREAT FAVOR"(~2000)

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 7:31 PM

"I doubt your life is better than mine. Not with all the bitterness you are spouting. I live on oceanfront property, and the ocean is one of the most beautiful places a person can wake up and fall asleep too. Oh but wait, I'm sure fly fishing is more fun than anything you could possibly do on the ocean or beach. My husband will get a kick out of that one. But seriously if fly fishing is your thing, go out and do it this weekend. You really need to have some fun and lighten up a bit."

If you have such a fascinating life, why are you fixated on me? Fly fishing isn't my entire life; only one corner of it that my husband taught me in recent years and no, I won't get into a spitting contest with you.

I know more about the ocean than anyone who might live on it. And no, I won't explain that to you. Well, okay, I will. I spent two years doing search and rescue out on the open sea and have spent a lot of my adult life living in great coastal towns.

Just accept my word for it that you are a shallow punk. The way I know that is that you think that it's important to compare your life to mine and disparage mine. You're the one who started with the "why do you have no life" posts.

Now I answered your persistent "do you have a life" questions that you were posting. I'm not impressed by the fact that you have a coastal house. The very fact of the stuff you post shows how shallow you are.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 7:29 PM

Bayh-Bayh, Clinton voters!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 7:25 PM

Clinton supporters....

Put your money where your mouth is...pay off her debt or shut the fluck up! LMAO

18,000,000 voters paying 1.00 each will equal 18,000,000 dollars....put up or shut up!! You obviously don't like her that much 'cause she still in debt...that's what her dumb arse gets! She knew that she could win after Super Tuesday but she led her throwed off supporters off the cliff and their dumb arses, JUMPED!!! Oh well....LMAO

Posted by: Pay UP! | August 22, 2008 7:21 PM

I doubt your life is better than mine. Not with all the bitterness you are spouting. I live on oceanfront property, and the ocean is one of the most beautiful places a person can wake up and fall asleep too. Oh but wait, I'm sure fly fishing is more fun than anything you could possibly do on the ocean or beach. My husband will get a kick out of that one. But seriously if fly fishing is your thing, go out and do it this weekend. You really need to have some fun and lighten up a bit.

Posted by: Annoyed with AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 7:20 PM

If Obama picks Hillary he is a fool, and not worty of any votes. I like Obama but am an independent voter who vacillitates between him and McCain. If Obama cannot stand up to the Clinton steamrolling machine which tried to stomp on him to get to the nomination, then extort its way to the #2 spot and later for a big spotlight at the convention, then how can we expect Obama to have the judgement and strength to stand up to China and Russia and AlQaeda and even our own members of Congress. If he picks Hillary this is one female who will definitely vote for McCain.

Posted by: impatient08 | August 22, 2008 7:19 PM

Daddy-
That is a ridiculous post. Continue to act like the Clintons are incompetent villains and Obama is the chosen one and you will continue to isolate all those people who remember that he was our only successful Democratic president in 40 years, that there was peace and the economy was stellar- raising all ships; I am voting for Obama but his lack of depth on positions, policies and his lack of a voting history has allowed him to back off of most of the left positions I would like to have seen- from gun control to the death penalty, from free trade to energy policy, from Iraq to FISA.

Remember that he won the nomination politically- in terms of votes his lead was nonexistant-- he won on a combination of taking advantage of an archaic system of caucuses, playing the race card to ring up big victories where African Americans dominate the party, surpressing revote attempts in Florida and Michigan, and starting a public campaign asking her to withdraw because of "the math" in February, so by the time he finished with a 116 delegate lead- she seemed to be just "hanging on" rather than legitimately representing 1/2 of those who had voted.

I don't think she should be the Vice either (I think she should be a SC justice)- but don't bad mouth her campaign and falsely elevate his. He won- now let go..

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 7:13 PM

To the buffoon who is equating CLinton's debt to (his claim that she is) lacking true supporters -

A corrupt windbag like Nobama might have collected hundreds of millions through his Chicago hedge fund and other rich friends like Pritziker and Griffin, his drug company collectors, and his slum lord friends, some of whom are in jail.

However, riches do not equal support, and Nob still had to call every last favor from his prostitute media pals to tarnish the CLinton name on a daily basis, to eke out the nomination steal.

Unfortunately, CLinton's supporters come from the poorer walks of life, including hourly workers, working moms, older people, minorities, and so on.

That said, every one gets one vote and she had 18 million in the primaries, and one half of the dem party supports her. Half of those are walking out on Nob.

How sweet is that?!

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 22, 2008 7:11 PM

Let me see if I understand this correctly: Cindy's momma stole mob daddy from his 1st wife with whom he had a daughter. Cindy's momma was in the hospital blowing Cindy's daddy while he was still married to Cindy's half sister's momma who was devastated when she found out what Cindy's momma was doing. Cindy's momma ended up marrying mob daddy and 9 years later had empty headed horse back poney show opening, blonde hair, blue eyed, crack head Cindy. Okay....and now it appears that Cindy have another sister from another momma who wasnt' married to Cindy's daddy but they had a daughter. So now Cindy has two half sisters of which Cindy and John McCain has scratched their names out of the mob daddy's will. The sisters didn't have enough money to keep fighting the McCain's. Cindy gets on CNN and lies about being the only child, same way she married McCain whose disfigured wife waiting for his coward arse to return from Vietnam and when he returned from war,he kicked the disfigured wife underneath the bus with his tiny foot along with their daughter and snuck and married 17 year old drug addict Cindy even before his divorce with his unfortunately disfigured wife was even final. We're not even going to further examine Cindy's past because it's gets worse. Wow what wonderful Christain morals and values.

Meanwhile the lil' Robot that could wants us to vote for him as President of the USA.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 7:03 PM

I hate to say it, but 3-term Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) is actually well-qualified to be President (too bad he's not on the top of the ticket ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 7:02 PM

Obama has been playing the media like a puppet on a string. it is embarrassing for all of us who thought we had a free press. They are trying to make him another JFK. who said I knew JFK and Obama is no JFK. CNN Blitzer saying the world is waiting to learn a bit over the top. you guys are on the moon Obama is on ground too much Kissy face from a neutral press ha ha

Posted by: musing | August 22, 2008 7:00 PM

For the avis fishermen. I've been doing my own fishing regarding Citizen Mccain and will post them each time I see on of your whoppers.

McCain Fortune Traced
To Organized Crime
Mob figures later implicated in Arizona savings and loan scandal
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
3-11-8

John McCain's personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona, through his father-in-law, according to a report published by a multi-news agency team called Investigative Reporters and Editors Inc.

IRE reporters Amy Silverman and John Doherty, writing in the Phoenix New Times, note that the father of McCain's wife, James Hensley, was convicted by a federal jury in U.S. District Court of Arizona in March 1948 on seven counts of filing false liquor records. Hensley also was charged with conspiracy to hide from federal authorities the names of persons involved in a liquor industry racket with two companies he managed, United Sales Company in Phoenix and United Distributors in Tucson.

The umbrella company, United Liquor, at that time held a monopoly in Arizona, organized and managed by Kemper Marley, who was accused of mob ties by a reporter who was murdered in 1977.

Silverman and Doherty report that by 1955, Hensley had launched a Budweiser distributorship in Phoenix, "a franchise reportedly bestowed upon him by Marley, who was never indicted in the 1948 liquor-law-violation case ­ or a subsequent one ­ despite his controlling role in the liquor distribution businesses."

According to Marley's longtime public relations man, Al Lizanetz, the Marley liquor empire was founded by the Bronfman family dynasty of Canada which operated Allied Finance Company, Northern Export Company and Distillers Corporation ­ the Seagrams, Ltd. empire.

As chronicled by the "Rumrunners and Prohibition" video shown popularly on the History Channel, during the 1920s, the Bronfman family made millions in bootlegging, accounting for half the illegal liquor crossing the border, working in a profitable distribution deal with the infamous mobster Meyer Lansky, who later moved on to establish the crime syndicates in the casinos of Havana, Cuba, in the 1940s and 50s.

Arizona in the 1970s drew a "who's who" of organized crime figures seeking to retire in the sun, including Rochester, N.Y., mob boss Joe Bonanno, who spent his last days along the Lake Havasu shores and in a quiet home in Tucson.

In 1977, after Arizona Republic reporter Don Bolles was killed when his car was blown up by the mob in a parking lot, a team of 36 journalists from 27 news organizations, known as IRE, published an 80,000 word 23-part series on organized crime in Arizona.

Dan Nowicki and Bill Muller, reporting in the Arizona Republic March 1, 2007, documented that in 1953, Hensley was again charged with falsifying records at Marley's liquor firms.

Hensley was found not guilty after being defended by William Rehnquist, the future chief justice of the Supreme Court, Nowicki and Muller wrote.

In 2000, Hensley, then 80 years old, still controlled the Budweiser distributorship valued as a $200 million-a-year business, with annual sales of more than 20 million cases of beer.

On Feb. 17, 2000, Pat Flannery reported in the Arizona Republic that Hensley's beer-distribution empire was the fifth largest in the nation, "a Budweiser franchise whose bigwigs hold the No. 2 spot on Sen. John McCain's all-time career list of corporate donors."

Since 1982, according to the Center for Public Integrity, Hensley & Co. officials have pumped $80,000 into the campaigns of McCain, Flannery wrote. More than a quarter of that has been donated since 1997.

Flannery further reported that in 2000, Cindy Hensley McCain, the senator's wife, held a 37.18 percent financial interest in her father's Budweiser distributorship, although she was not involved in day-to-day operations.

The McCain's four children held a combined 23.55 percent interest, though their interests were at that time held in trust.

Arizona crime connections again surfaced in the 1980s when McCain was implicated as one of the five U.S. senators named in the "Keating Five" scandal.

Charles Keating Jr. and his associates paid McCain some $112,000 in political campaign contributions between 1982 and 1987, while Keating was organizing a massive real estate fraud in the then FDIC federally insured Lincoln Savings and Loan Association.

In April 1986, McCain's wife and father-in-law also invested $359,000 in a Keating shopping center, before the savings and loan scandal broke.

Keating was sent to prison under civil racketeering and fraud charges for the $1.1 billion loss the investment scheme cost the public, although McCain and the other U.S. senators involved managed to avoid charges in the Senate, with McCain receiving only an Ethics Committee rebuke for exercising "poor judgment."

Even today, McCain's 2008 presidential campaign staff includes several prominent lobbyists, despite the senator's claim to be a campaign reform crusader whose goal is to take money out of politics.

WND previously reported McCain's 2000 and 2008 campaign manager Rick Davis took a six-figure salary as president of the Soros-funded Reform Institute in the intervening years and managed his own lobby firm of Davis, Manafort & Freeman in Alexandria, Va., operating at the same building in a suite down the hall from the Reform Institute.

In 2003 and 2004, Davis apparently solicited CSC Holdings, a subsidiary of the Cablevision Systems Corporation, headed by Charles F. Dolan, to make two separate $100,000 contributions to the Reform Institute.

In between the two separate $100,000 contributions Cablevision made to the Reform Institute, McCain, then chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, wrote a letter to the Federal Communications Commission supporting Cablevision's desire to continue packaging customer TV programming in a manner more profitable to Cablevision.

In this period of time, McCain worked with Vicki Iseman, a lobbyist representing telecommunications companies, including Cablevision.

WND also reported Davis arranged a 2006 meeting with Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska in Davos, Switzerland, a close supporter of Russian president Vladimir Putin.

McCain repeatedly has voiced opposition to Putin, even calling on President Bush to suspend Russia's membership in the Group of Eight.

In 2007, the U.S. State Department cancelled Deripaska's visa over continuing concerns he remained connected with the Russian mafia.

Posted by: Helen Douglas | August 22, 2008 6:59 PM

McCain just broke Cindy's aka. "ho of the year" neck to match the broken wrist he broke when he found out that she was in the bathroom on her knees doing, which happens to be what she does best. It would do her a lot of good if she wipes all of that cream off her lips before she stands behind the lil robot that speaks on the podium! LMAO

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:55 PM

The VP is not Hillary. The nation won't go for a Black and a woman at the same time. One or the other. Secondly, Hillary is an extremely poor manager of resources, and won't fit with Obama's well-oiled machine approach. Additionally, Obama dislikes drama as it gets in the way of getting things done, and Hillary is a drama queen, and Bill a drama king.

Posted by: Daddy1 | August 22, 2008 6:54 PM

I have to give Obama credit here: He has left the media spinning and speculating and gasping for air for days. The longer it goes on, the more people realize how empty and ill-informed most of what the pundits say really is. Want to change politics? Got to change the ridiculous media to get there. Good job, Obama!

Posted by: dbaldwin | August 22, 2008 6:54 PM

Meet Citizen McCain's crazy Russian foreign policy advisor. This immigrant is truly frightening as is the "I know how to win wars" guy.

In yet further evidence that neo-conservatives seem immune from the clutches of reality and common sense, Max Boot has written an incredible op-ed on American power.

According to Boot, America's biggest problem today is that rogue nations and leaders are not afraid enough of the United States. So what's Boot's brilliant solution for reversing America's "fear factor" - elect John McCain President. Why you ask? For those of you with a strong stomach read on:

Max Boot:

"In my (admittedly biased) opinion, the leading candidate to scare the snot out of our enemies is a certain former aviator who has been noted for his pugnacity and his unwavering support of the American war effort in Iraq. Ironically, John McCain's bellicose aura could allow us to achieve more of our objectives peacefully because other countries would be more afraid to mess with him than with most other potential occupants of the Oval Office -- or the current one.

So let's see if I have this straight. We went to war in Iraq, in large measure, to show the world that you can't mess with the United States. Five years later, we are less feared today then we were then and the countries we were supposed to intimidate with our impressive display of American power are actually acting more mischievously.

But now according to Max Boot the problem wasn't that we wasted blood and treasure on an unnecessary war; it wasn't that we showed the world the true limitations of American military power; it wasn't that we poisoned relations with our key allies; it wasn't that we completely eschewed diplomacy in the name of a muscular and aggressive militarism.

No, no, the problem was we weren't bellicose enough. You see if we just elect someone who makes bat s*** crazy statements like we should be in Iraq for 100 years or jokes about bombing Iran, rogue nations will simply cower in fear and do America's bidding. Problem solved, now we can go back to cutting taxes and raping the environment.

I can just see it now, White House aides in a McCain Administration influencing foreign affairs by telling reporters sotto voce, "I've never seen McCain this angry before. He keeps talking about bombing back to the Stone Age. I tell you if the Iranians don't stop with that civilian nuclear program I don't know what he's going to do; maybe something really, really crazy." Honestly, do you think it's the best selling point for a Presidential candidate to argue that people should vote him because he's a crazy SOB?

One would really think that after seven years of the Bush's Administration's disastrously confrontational and unilateralist foreign policy, conservatives would realize that maybe "flagwaving" is not the smartest approach to foreign policy. Guess not."

article written by Michael Cohen

http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2008/02/that-wacky-wa-3.html

Posted by: Elizabeth Haskins | August 22, 2008 6:52 PM

>>Observer wrote: "Here, Oregon, native fish are strictly protected. There is a no kill rule in effect for any fish without a clipped fin and we have a trophy fishery where you regulary catch 20" and larger trout, Steelead to 18 pounds, and Bull Trout the same. You can float the lower river and see Bald and Golden eagles feeding on dead salmon, see wild otters and Martin, and catch huge trout. That is a lot better than killing a bunch of 6 to 10 inch planters any day."

Wow, Oregon. You live in heaven.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:52 PM

>>Observer wrote: "AsperGirl - Same thing here. The upper Fall River has been one of the best Brown and native Rainbow fisheries I have ever encountered."

I know, it's happening everywhere. It's scary, too. The population of the U.S. is supposed to double this century. Our favorite streams, that are just hanging on, are facing their last years. Because people build on streams and rivers.

Ducks Unlimited and Trout Unlimited have been fighting a losing battle against the destruction of fisheries and wetlands. Some of the best fishing in the country in PA is threatened right now by road-building where they blew a hole in an aquifer that feeds a system of limestone spring creeks that supports wild brown trout in a beautiful ecosystem. It's very sad because they didn't have to blow up that aquifer, it would have just been a little more expensive not to.

Obama needs an environmentalist-sportsman coalition. I've been thinking about this for years, actually, about how there should be some kind of "American heritage fishing and hunting preservation act" where these historic heritage hunting lands and watersheds are protected, using some basic processes before people build and blow things up, even though they aren't public lands.

But these academic Democrats are so mired in their world. They probably think fly fishermen cling to their rods out of bitterness, too.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:50 PM

nate - She is! There are only so many native fish. If everyone took "a couple for the pan" as they did in the bad old days, those fisheries would be dead in a very short while. The same thing applies top planted fish. They compete with the natives for food and cover and inflict a lot of damage. Here, Oregon, native fish are strictly protected. There is a no kill rule in effect for any fish without a clipped fin and we have a trophy fishery where you regulary catch 20" and larger trout, Steelead to 18 pounds, and Bull Trout the same. You can float the lower river and see Bald and Golden eagles feeding on dead salmon, see wild otters and Martin, and catch huge trout. That is a lot better than killing a bunch of 6 to 10 inch planters any day.

Posted by: Observer | August 22, 2008 6:40 PM

>>nate wrote: "Are you implying bwecause you catch and release you are somehow better than people that eat the fish they catch?"

Your question is bizarre.

Fly fishermen don't think that way. If you compare yourself to other people, it interferes with what you're doing.

What you are suggesting is like saying one kind of praying is better than another kind. There is no moral superiority of one to another.

No, all I was describing, indirectly, is the kind of places we go. There are different waters for catch-and-release and designated places for catch-and-kill.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:36 PM

OBAMA DRAMA: Prepares to name mate...
FLASH: Fri Aug 22 2008 17:52:03 ET /// KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reports a company in Kansas City, which specializes in political literature, has been printing Obama-Bayh material... MORE... Gill Studios, would not confirm information about the material. They would not deny it either. At least three sources close to the plant's operations reported the Obama-Bayh material was being produced...

Posted by: rnspreng | August 22, 2008 6:36 PM

Is this not, like, the most exciting thing EVER? Like, my friend Shelly, she says like Obama is really kewl and he wil text like the new 2nd dude any minute now and like this is so kewl. Like like like, like watching paint dry.

Get over yourself, Obama. God, the One is coming down the mountain with the tablets. All of us waitin' on Obama, the Moses for the Up in da air Noses.

Life. Get one.

Posted by: Boring Boring Boring | August 22, 2008 6:34 PM

ITS...Evan Bayh

OBAMA DRAMA: Prepares to name mate...
FLASH: Fri Aug 22 2008 17:52:03 ET /// KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reports a company in Kansas City, which specializes in political literature, has been printing Obama-Bayh material... MORE... Gill Studios, would not confirm information about the material. They would not deny it either. At least three sources close to the plant's operations reported the Obama-Bayh material was being produced...

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Posted by: Nathan | August 22, 2008 6:33 PM

AsperGirl - Same thing here. The upper Fall River has been one of the best Brown and native Rainbow fisheries I have ever encountered. Some of the Brown's ran too better than 10 pounds. Three years ago, through some means, the Forest Service leased (99 year leases) out the entire east bank. Million dollar homes went up, each with a fish feeder, and the lawns (all well fertilized) went right down to the water. The fishery is all but dead.

Posted by: Observer | August 22, 2008 6:32 PM

Well Leslie, given (1) the overwhelming similarity between Hillary's positions on the issues as compared with Obama's, versus the striking disimilarity of her positions as compared with McCain; (2) the fact that both Obama and Hillary are Democrats while McCain is not; and (3)the fact that the candidate for whom you were a "strong supporter" has embraced the nominee of her party while urging the importance of ending Republican control of the White House; I can think of just one thing that Obama might do to change your mind.

Change his color.

Posted by: neilmckenna | August 22, 2008 6:30 PM

Balz wrote

"Give credit to Barack Obama's team. So far they've orchestrated the vice presidential roll out deftly..."


the choice of the second highest constitutional office has been reduced
to marketing theatrics and called a
'rollout'

I hope dan balz is with another newspaper soon.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:28 PM

Aspergirl,

Are you implying bwecause you catch and release you are somehow better than people that eat the fish they catch?

Posted by: nate | August 22, 2008 6:28 PM

There are a bunch of idiots (er, Nobama supporting gutter rats; anyway, is there a difference between the two) thinking that there are 18 mil supporters of HRC out there, and if roughly half of them don't support Nob, that means he is just missing out on 9 million voters, so what?

Well, such is the math of these Nob doting buffoons. HRC has the support of 1/2 of all dems, as did Nob. If as these idiots think, HRC had the support of 18 million voters, then that is the same number of voters supporting Nob.

There is no evidence out there that HRC's supporters turned out in greater #s in the primaries than did Nob's. On the contrary, Non's supporters are very proud of the "enthusiasm factor" in their group, so, if anything, it is likely that the 18 million that voted for Nob in the primaries were overly representative, and that Nob really does not have support of even half the dem party.

So, with roughly 1/2 of HRC supporters now saying they will sit out or vote Mac, Nob is missing out on at least 1/4 of all democrats in Nov. Good luck winning the general E, w/o the support of 1/4 of all democrats.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 22, 2008 6:25 PM

>>Observer wrote: "I am a fly fishing fanatic and no one can be a fly fishing nut and be all bad..."

We only catch and release, no killing. Wild trout, steelhead and salmon. My husband ties the flies.

Obama could really pick up a lot of rural votes if he had a hunting and fisheries strategy, because everyone got excited when Dick Cheney got elected with Bush. Cheney's a great fly fisherman, even fly fishes some places we go.

But then the Bush Administration has been destroying hunting lands and fisheries. They shut down the Gunnison River and all the native Gunnison River rainbow trout died and are gone. This has been happening all over. The Obama Democrats could pick up a lot of rural votes if they stopped treating the rest of America as if they were ignorant people, and started listening more.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:24 PM

uh-oh, corruption anon must have got out of summer school for the day. there goes the board

Posted by: Truthteller | August 22, 2008 6:23 PM

Bayh as VP?

http://www.drudgereport.com/

And, fwiw, leadership is different things at different times.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 22, 2008 6:21 PM


Mr. Balz claims that: "Give credit to Barack Obama's team. So far they've orchestrated the vice presidential roll out deftly ..."

Deftly? Oh come on. Waiting until the weekend in the summer past the Thursday news cycle when nobody is going to be paying attention? You are so in the tank for Obama.

Posted by: Bart | August 22, 2008 6:21 PM

AsperGirl:

LOL!!! May I ask where you went fishing?

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 6:21 PM

Celebrity drama! I guess that's the best Obama can give.

Posted by: veronica | August 22, 2008 6:17 PM

"I wonder how many of the Clinton diehards realize that their attempts at extortion doomed whatever chances their candidate had to be VP. Bowing to their pressure would have made Obama look weak and feckless."

If Obama wasn't weak he wouldn't have to worry about 'looking' weak. Stand up and be a strong leader, if you are. If not keep demanding that everyone listen to you because you're the leader of the party and your decisions are yours and yours alone. Oh, and by the way, has anyone ever heard the term representative leader. That's when your job is to represent the views and wishes of your constituents. Not to intentionally act contrary to their wishes to show them who's boss.

Posted by: IH2008 | August 22, 2008 6:17 PM

OK, so YOU might be waiting. I've got better things to do.

Who cares!

I'm a strong Hillary supporter voting for McCain. There is nothing Obama can do to change that. And I mean NOTHING!

NObama, NOhow, NOway

Posted by: Lesley | August 22, 2008 6:16 PM

>>JakeD wrote: "I haven't been fly fishing in a long time, AsperGirl. However, my wife and I were in Las Vegas last weekend. Wanna bet that we have more real "fun" than any of them?"

LOL. They're probably dreaming of a day when they have enough appeal to someday land a spouse.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:15 PM

Observer:

Dick Cheney fly fishes AND hunts quail ...

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 6:15 PM

AsperGirl !!!! - You fly fish???? I always thought you were a complete doofus, but now I have to rethink that. I am a fly fishing fanatic and no one can be a fly fishing nut and be all bad.... Do you trap shoot, too? Or, even bird hunt? If you answer "yes" to either of those, then this Obama voter offers his apologies and will never post anything bad about you again.

Posted by: Observer | August 22, 2008 6:12 PM

Phrank:

That's why you need good "malepractice" insurance ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 6:09 PM

I haven't been fly fishing in a long time, AsperGirl. However, my wife and I were in Las Vegas last weekend. Wanna bet that we have more real "fun" than any of them?

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 6:08 PM

"JakeD, the PITA poster to all articles on WaPo. Even worse than AsperinGirl!!"

Oh, let's just have a delightful mobbing of the Clinton supporters by Obama supporters.

What a cult.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:08 PM

Mecane steels people heart by telling his captivitu in vetnam and when he talks about it he thinks makes his listeners to belive he is the only vetran from that wrongly started war and finished shmefully.
He uses it like a currency to buy peoples heart, ear and now their vote AMERICA WAKE UP BEFORE CRYING FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

MACANE STOP USING YOUR EXPERIANCE IN VETNAM AS ACURRENCY TO BY PEOPLS HEART BECAUSE YOU ARE FROM RICH FAMILY AND GOT A CHANCE TO BE ON NATIONAL STAGE DONT MAKE MONY AND STATUS WITH THAT EXPERIANCE. THERE ARE MANY VETRACE WHO DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE LIKE YOU AND CANNOT CASH IN TELLING THEIR STORY. WE ARE TIRED OF LISTING YOUR BLABLA BLA .....VETNAM......BLABLA.... TALK REALITY NOW.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:07 PM

I wonder how many of the Clinton diehards realize that their attempts at extortion doomed whatever chances their candidate had to be VP. Bowing to their pressure would have made Obama look weak and feckless. (Actually choosing one with negatives over 50% would havwe been malepractice) BTW, after Mark Penn demonstrated that he didn't know his posterior from his patella about the primaries with his false ideas about the CA primzary, her failure to fire him demonstrates that she was either just a front woman for the interests represented by Burton-Marsteller or she does not have the competency to be President. What kind of person pays millions to a man that didn't know that the CA Democratic primary was not winner take all? It has to be either a tool or a fool.

Posted by: Phrank | August 22, 2008 6:06 PM

"I'm just sorry that your life must be so bitter and empty that all you can do is spend your whole day psoting negative comments on here. Why don't you go try to do something fun this weekend?"

I'm sure my life is better than yours. Don't worry about my fun.

I spent last weekend fly fishing with my husband, who is happy to put up with my excesses whenever I get fixated on doing things, because I'm so worth having.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:04 PM

"There is plain racism and then there are bigots...the above seems to have even exceeded that towards realm of pure stupidity...

ALL ARE AMERICANS...COLOR DOESNT MATTER...GO READ THE CONSTITUTION MORON"

Color may not matter but gender clearly does. The most qualified candidate wasn't even vetted b/c she's female, and Obama has put women's rights on the table as a negotiating chip to try and win Christian Right votes and "change" the Democratic Party to a faith-based, Christian party. When this is over the DNC will need to come up with a new name b/c THEIR brand is so damaged.

Posted by: IH2008 | August 22, 2008 6:03 PM

The Obama camp continues to think that by linking McCain to Bush, BHO will win the election. MEMO: they have lost almost 20% in the polls using this failed strategy. Therefore, you can bet your last dollar that his VP pick will be wrong too, as he seems to want to try and appease everyone by doing what he thinks his supporters want instead of having a backbone and conviction and doing what he personally thinks is best.

McCain will pick who he wants, and he won't pander to the CC's or the party infrastructure.

Let's face it, Team Obama is focused on this housing gaff because they don't have any new ideas, the old ideas of raising taxes and giving more money to a bunch of unemployed single urban parents (if you can call them that), and kissing the a$$ of the UN are all crappy ideas that real Americans aren't going to buy.

So keep on hoping this poser you Dems put up actually makes a race out of this election. He's a taller version of Do-cock-us. Hell, even his smooth talking style looked like crap at Saddleback when they took the teleprompter away from his sorry a$$.

Posted by: Pathalogical Truthteller | August 22, 2008 6:02 PM

JakeD, the PITA poster to all articles on WaPo. Even worse than AsperinGirl!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:02 PM

AsperGirl:

You keep going, posting truth!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 6:00 PM

I'm just sorry that your life must be so bitter and empty that all you can do is spend your whole day psoting negative comments on here. Why don't you go try to do something fun this weekend?

Posted by: Annoyed by AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 6:00 PM

They call it "number 2" for a reason. Usually the choice stinks.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 5:59 PM

I just get so bitter and angry when I realize that people still don't get it -- Hillary is going to grab the Democratic nomination next week, not Obama Ahmadinejad Barack.

Hillary is entitled to the presidency, and that is why she is waiting in the wings in case anything happens. She will step forward and grab what is rightfully hers.

Hillary understands the truth of this election: that the far-left members of the Democratic Party -- angry, bitter leftists like me who read firedoglake and are secure in our gender identity -- will have the ultimate say on who is going to be president.

And that someone is Hillary -- because she will rightfully grab what she is entitled to.

Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | August 22, 2008 5:59 PM

It's a sad conclusion after reading some of the more disturbing racist comments on here, that Americans deserve another decade of Rethuglicans because you haven't learnt from your tragic past and the consequences of your actions.

America is no longer land of the free... There are people on here who have lived by hate and they will die by hate. Their hate for others - races, cultures and religions.

Posted by: Bitish Observer | August 22, 2008 5:58 PM

Does all the anticipation and expectation just come to a fizzle if Obama simply plays it safe?

If we were to wait all this time to find out that he pulled out a coup and got someone like Gore to buy in, there'd be a frenzy in the few days leading up to the convention. But if that was possible, he would have capitalized on the media explosion that would have resulted and used it to dominate this entire week before the convention.

So it's going to be Biden, Kaine, or Bayh, and we're all going to say, "Really? That's it?"

Posted by: JohninMpls | August 22, 2008 5:57 PM

I echo the sentiments of "Still Annoyed by AsperGirl", and would love to know if you have a life

Posted by: Jenny | August 22, 2008 5:56 PM

"Now, can you please answer the question of whether or not you have a life?"

This is my life right now. I'm practicing writing and stating true contrarian views in the faces of a deluded, brainwashed social group.

No kidding. Really.

Rev. Wright called the paranoid ranting he does in a closed group of like-minded people "speaking truth to power". But one is not "speaking truth to power" when one speaks to a closed group of "us" who hate the "other".

This is an invaluable experience for me because Obama's movement has so many attributes of a cult, because the groupthink is so strong, as well as layers and layers of prejudice all around being so pervasive this election year. The communications complexity is overwhelming.

It's so strange to see how irate and infuriated Obama supporters get, just at hearing someone say what they think is true. If this were a village, there would be daily witchburnings of Clinton supporters. Sometimes I just say things and observe the reactions (I say things that I believe, not that I don't believe).

Communications in politics this year is a real challenge, in terms of framing, reframing and metastructures of cognitive frameworks.

I'm also trying to figure out what it is in me that makes it important for me to want to try to figure out how to "speak truth to power". I mean, why even bother? I'm not sure why I think that's an important skill to learn. If it comes down to just agreeing with everyone and lying about what one thinks, why not just do that?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:56 PM

AsperGirl is a pain in the a$...

Posted by: AsperGirl is a pain in the... | August 22, 2008 5:51 PM

McCain make not know how many houses he owns but thankfully for the USA Obama knows the price of Arugala at whole foods.

And while democracy was being trampled on in Georgia, Obama was dealing with it by surfing in Hawaii (not important enough to take a break from a holiday.)

And now we find out one of Mrs. Obama's great accomplishments at her current job was to help get rid of uninsured people coming to her hospital.

Tell me again who represents the common man.

Posted by: sal | August 22, 2008 5:50 PM

I don;t have to support Obama to think you sound racist, kid.

Posted by: Amazed | August 22, 2008 5:49 PM

every time i see McCain 2008/Clinton 2012 a little bit more vomit fills my mouth.

Posted by: jamon | August 22, 2008 5:49 PM

To the most recent "anonymous" poster--aka too chicken to attach my name to my thoughts--if you truly are a democrat, then there is no way you would vote for McCain. Now if you are just someone who has tended to vote democrat, that's one thing. But McCain stands too much for the same things as Bush and as a real democrat there is no way you would support that.

Posted by: Jenny | August 22, 2008 5:48 PM

>>Amazed wrote: "AspenGirl, you really don';t have a right to act offended when people say you sound racist when you say Obama will be registering votes from "marginal people" and "those kind of people." Honestly, level it out."

Spare me your racist ranting accusations and paranoia. Didn't you get the memo? Obama supporters are supposed to stop accusing anyone who criticizes the candidate of being "racist". It makes the "movement" sound paranoid and grievance-minded (which they are). Obama's base isn't mainstream America.

"Psephologist and columnist Michael Barone noticed during the primaries that, with the exception of the black vote, Obama's support within the Democratic party is comprised almost entirely of cultural liberals. He dubbed this intra-Democratic split a divide between "academics and Jacksonians." The Jacksonians are working-class, culturally conservative whites. The academics are the same people who formed the base for Howard Dean, Bill Bradley, Michael Dukakis, Gary Hart, George McGovern, and other successful presidents in the anti-matter universe where Spock has a goatee."

If you don't like the description of the Obama support base, take it up with the "psephologists".

Or maybe you can reflect on it after your candidate loses, and you're sitting around on Nov. 5th wondering why yet another Democratic nominee bit the dust when he seemed sooo perfect.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:46 PM

Obama can't be trusted!

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 5:45 PM

Hillary Clinton is not the VP so Americans are voting for McCain in 2008.

Americans are not ready for two unknowns.

Obama and his unknown VP will both lose.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

MCCAIN 2008
HILLARY 2012

Posted by: grace | August 22, 2008 5:45 PM

Actually I'm not upset by Clinton supporters who are not Obama supporters. It's their choice, and I know how upset I was I realized Clinton didn't have a chance to be the nominee. I have been a fan of hers for a long time, and really wanted to see her win this election. That being said, I also realize that Obama is a much better choice (for me) than McCain, and that is why I have chosen to move on and now support him. And I am definitely not deluded, since I no he is not going to choose her as his VP, but it's still what I wish would happen.

Now, can you please answer the question of whether or not you have a life? Because I don't think you do, and I find that very sad. no wonder you are such a bitter person.

Posted by: Still annoyed by AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:44 PM

>>>It's Obama's job to retire the loser's debt if he wants the support of their supporters. ....
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:58 PM

Here's where you're wrong...and you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Helping another candidate to raise monies to pay off campaign debt is a courtesy only...not a requirement and definitely not an entitlement. But, to use your logic, it's up to the candidate to NOT overspend and virtually bankrupt his/herself in the course of running for a political office. That's why people suspend their campaigns before they get to that point in most instances. Goes to show the voters how each one of them manages an organization. I gather now that the result spoke for itself.

So, when it comes down to it, Hillary Clinton is really responsible for her own debt. Obama has offered to help conduct fundraisers to help her retire her debt -- NOT use his contributors' donations to his own campaign to pay her campaign debt. But to really ask the large donors to help her pay off someone like Mark Penn is really obscene with that campaign that he and Clinton ran against Obama. That's the problem and you must understand that those donors will not pay a person who tried to destroyed them.

I'll tell you...too much here smacks of entitlement. The Clintons need to go off into the sunset since their times have passed. No more dynasties need to apply here.

P.S. Anyway, why haven't those 18 million people who supposedly support Hillary sent in their $1.00 donation? With this donation alone, at least $18 million of Hillary's debt would have been retired already. So, seems to me that a bunch of folks are still full of it. You would not still be talking about Obama paying for anything at this late date. So, what's in your wallet for Hillary???

P.P.S. Votes aren't for sale. So, Obama doesn't need to pay off anything to get those votes, especially since nothing is guaranteed. Hillary needs to pay her own debts to restore the fiscal standing of those small business people that her campaign left broke waiting for their money. I was turned off that that very fact and, from that point, Hillary forever lost my respect because she had none for the small business folks to served her well.

Posted by: ldsw | August 22, 2008 5:44 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if all of the phone traffic involved with this gimmick overburdened and knocked out the com lines carrying the national news broadcasts which are gearing-up right now.

As Charlie Gibson, Brian Williams and somebody at CBS begin, "Tonight we bring you the long await....." the sound cuts out and there's a Fade to Black on all networks.

Posted by: AT&Ooops | August 22, 2008 5:44 PM

The polls are indicating the Obama implosion is picking up speed. This is ugly and getting uglier by the minute.

Posted by: Uh Oh | August 22, 2008 5:44 PM

To all the folks here with short attention spans: the announcement will come when it comes. Take a Xanax.

To the frozen Hillary folks: stop trying to cut off your nose to spite your face. And, knock of the race prejudice, too. There is no pecking order with regard to prejudice.

To Mr. Balz: what can I say other than he gets paid to write about nothing.

Posted by: Peter | August 22, 2008 5:42 PM

This whole VP drama is for the birds. It really has become something like the Publisher's Sweepstakes. I don't know why Obama is dragging his heels except in a lame effort to generate drama. Not a great idea because it emphasizes his celebrity status over his substance. It doesn't make me want to vote for him.

Posted by: DC Democrat | August 22, 2008 5:40 PM

Has anyone else seen the video of McCain at a KKK rally in Arizona in full senior Klan leader robes (hood in hand)? I hear the video will be on YouTube later tonight.

Posted by: Dianna72 | August 22, 2008 5:39 PM

First off, Clinton still has not openly endorsed Obama, held out for several weeks before saying anything about being beat, and has play pandering politician every chance she gets.If she would have taken the clue, stepped aside when it was appropriate, even i would donate to her "refunding" campaign, but she decided to play the fox, slide out of public view and try to back door the nomination, so shame on her.
The only reason she had 18 million votes come her way is because of the GOP backed idea to send republicans to the poles to vote AGAINST Obama, not for Hillary.And it worked, oh so well here in Ohio, where he was way ahead of her two weeks before voting, and lost the state because of our large and anti-active GOP
As for the VP slot, sh could have secured it early on, without being such a brat. I certainly think whoever the pick is will be more diverse, and definitely more experienced than she, in any case.
I was personnaly pulling for Richardson, but allegedly he's been told No, so if Biden is the next best, ill bite my tounge

Posted by: Bill | August 22, 2008 5:39 PM

AspenGirl, you really don';t have a right to act offended when people say you sound racist when you say Obama will be registering votes from "marginal people" and "those kind of people." Honestly, level it out.

Posted by: Amazed | August 22, 2008 5:39 PM

If it is not Hillary Clinton as VP Americans are voting for McCain in 2008.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

Posted by: grace | August 22, 2008 5:39 PM

Hillary and Bill dug their own graves - time to lie down in peace like adults.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 5:36 PM

what a nerd - this whole thing is so lame.

just pick one already and prepare to get slaughtered in the general election...

Posted by: fred | August 22, 2008 5:34 PM

Let's hope McCain is counting on all us Hillary supporters voting for him if Hillary is not on the ticket with Obama.

I'm sure that will work out well for McCain. ;)

Posted by: Sally | August 22, 2008 5:33 PM

Obama is coming across like a silly, coy, self-involved teenager waiting to announce whom he will attend the prom with. McCain approach on his vp pick is, as usual, so much more straightforward, grownup and presidential.

Obama may have his cheerleaders, the press, in a complete lather but most of the voting public cares two hoots about which loser he is going to pick. And loser it will be because everyone else would commit the cardinal sin of outshining Obama.

Frankly, he should wait until Sun or Mon to announce and enjoy the current poll #s while he can. Hillary supporters, 25% of whom are already voting for MCain, will cross over to McCain in a really big way and those poll #s will become truly terrifying...

Posted by: lk | August 22, 2008 5:30 PM

The Clinton's are failures. Obama doesn't need to be attached to that drama.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 5:30 PM

"AsperGirl, do you have a life? How do you have time to post so much? You really are annoying and bitter. I'm a Hillary supporter, who is now supporting Obama (still holding out hope that he'll pick Hillary as his VP, despite knowing it's unlikely), and I can tell you we definitely don't want any of your kind of "support". You should go find something more productive to do with your life and quit posting so many bitter and annoying comments."

I'm sure you're annoyed by those 48 percent of Clinton supporters who aren't happy with Obama and aren't supporting him. Since they really have no voice, because the media and Obama bloggers drown them out as if they were invisible, I'm sure you find hearing their contrarian views annoying.

We've been hearing for months now how you don't want our support, how we have to "shut up and get on board".

Well, you haven't been getting our support.

And your Obama isn't going to win without it. If you think he's going to pick Hillary because he doesn't want and need our holdout support, you're deluded.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:29 PM

>> ClaraDiehlson wrote: "I like how you made up random stuff about me, without really addressing anything of substance. I will take that as an admission you are wrong."

But you said nothing of substance.

As far as your point that Obama didn't vet Clinton, that's true. But it's been discussed elsewhere and what you said is neither novel nor conclusive. But then he didn't have to as the couple has been better-vetted than anyone else in America. If he wasn't going to pick her, he should have just come out and said that he wouldn't pick her, since he should be perfectly aware that millions of Clinton supporters are withholding their support of him.

The fact that you would make conclusive statements with information that isn't dispositive of an issue means that you're some kind of overconfident but fuzzy thinker. So you're a naive bluestocking liberal or an academic who's thought process isn't as rigorous as she thinks it is. I.e. a liberal arts academic with fuzzy logic that you mistake for precise thinking.

The fact that you think that Obama-Kerry is a good ticket shows how deluded and ivory tower you are. Like Obama really needs to spoon up to Kerry, who at least half the electorate already decided in 2004 was an elitist, out-of-touch phony who didn't earn all the medals he was awarded. That's all Obama needs, someone to make him more acceptable to elitist phonies.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:26 PM

AsperGirl, do you have a life? How do you have time to post so much? You really are annoying and bitter. I'm a Hillary supporter, who is now supporting Obama (still holding out hope that he'll pick Hillary as his VP, despite knowing it's unlikely), and I can tell you we definitely don't want any of your kind of "support". You should go find something more productive to do with your life and quit posting so many bitter and annoying comments.

Posted by: Annoyed by AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:23 PM

If the Clinton supporters were real "Clinton Supporters", I would expect that they would have paid off her debt by now. You can bet that Obama Nation would have paid off his by now. The vast majority of the Hillary supporters have already joined the Obama team. Many of residuals are masked republicans, never really ever supported her, had planned to disrupt the democrats during the race and in the end would vote republican as planned.

If there is some planned disruption by Hillary supporters at the convention, I bet it is just republicans acting up under the guise of Hillary supporters.

Posted by: Marylou | August 22, 2008 5:23 PM

can anyone verify that he announced Kwame Kirkpatrick as his V.P. choice?

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Posted by: zzzzzzz.... | August 22, 2008 5:20 PM

keeping it in the spirit of a all home boy ticket,

Obama picks, O.J. Simpson,

Posted by: Bishop TuTu | August 22, 2008 5:20 PM

We've stopped caring. Does it really matter who he chooses? This is shaping up to be the worst loss in history. Thanks Pelosi/Reid/Dean et al..

Posted by: Ed G. | August 22, 2008 5:18 PM

Obama VP search co-chair, Caroline Kennedy AND Speaker Pelosi will be on "Meet the Press" Sunday, if that adds to the tea leaves ...

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 5:17 PM

Satan didn't shut up and move on as was her obligation when she lost, Asperperson.

So, why should Surfer Boy have any obligation to pay off the debt she and her acolytes mismanaged to make?

Shouldn't it be her and her "Village" who have the obligation to do that?

Posted by: J. D. Imus | August 22, 2008 5:17 PM

zzzzz !!

Let him take all the time he wants. His candidacy is making my corn flakes get soggy with anticipation anyway.

Now guess which candidate is the REAL Drama King of Kings. Made for Hollyweird, this dude is.

zzzzzz!!

Posted by: philip z | August 22, 2008 5:10 PM

That pegs you as a bluestocking liberal who aspires to elect a phony elitist McGovern type. You must be speaking out of, oh, six decades of frustration of your candidates not getting elected and your vote never counting. You're the type of ivory tower clueless waif who, along with the media, gets loser nominees picked every Democratic primary season.

I bet you were all over Howard Dean, Bill Bradley, Michael Dukakis, Gary Hart and George McGovern.

You don't speak for all academic women
___________________
You crack me up, AsperityGirl! I never said I spoke for anyone, YOU have been saying what women will do as if you are an authority. I like how you made up random stuff about me, without really addressing anything of substance. I will take that as an admission you are wrong.

Back to the topic at hand, I doubt any announcement will come out today as it will miss the evening news. I personally will be happy with most of the short-listers.

Posted by: ClaraDiehlson | August 22, 2008 5:06 PM

"Wait on" is poor English in this context, Washingtonpost.com

Correct usage is wait for.

Posted by: Grammarian | August 22, 2008 5:05 PM

No one trusts Baracky Hussein Obama

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: gary | August 22, 2008 5:04 PM

Well, the stock market's closed, the after hours market's died down and there's no point in waiting for this announcement.

I thought he'd announce after the stock market closed because it reacts to him (in a negative way).

Oh well. Time to start the weekend.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 5:01 PM

Please, please continue with the endless ALL-HUSSEIN, ALL-THE-TIME propaganda. What good is the ultra-left liberal media if we can't all get indoctrinated in your bias 24/7?

Did hussein have a good BM this morning? We need details, details: size, number, shape....

A recent report indicated hussein farted at about 11 AM. Who were the lucky reporters crammed up his A who managed to get a good whiff? Please have them describe the pleasure they felt at that memorable moment. We all want to know!!!!!

Posted by: ALEX H. | August 22, 2008 5:00 PM

>>Anonymous wrote: "Neither are all Clinton supporters very serious about her. Otherwise they would help her with her debt. What's the amount now? $24million? I think, AsperGirl, you are more of a minority than majority."

It's Obama's job to retire the loser's debt if he wants the support of their supporters. He hasn't, and only has himself to blame if only 52 percent of Clinton supports say they will vote for him and if his fundraising falls short of expectations. Clinton made it very clear she wasn't looking for her own $13 million, so for the sake of $10 million, Obama has been holding back on "unity".

>>"There were Clinton supporters at our caucus. The three on my street now have Obama signs in the window. They actually care about the issues, not the cult of Hillary. With all due respect to Hillary, she's a smart lady - but some of her supporters care more about spite than the causes Hillary cares about."

There are people who supported Clinton who will vote Democrat no matter what, or who voted for her because they were into her being a woman.

Issue focused people aren't knee jerk like that. Obama's appeal is that of groups: blacks, young people, ivory tower liberals and staunch party diehards. That's why his base is deep and though narrow. But there are a lot of people who aren't in the political party thing, who don't put signs in windows or on their lawns, who focus on issues and candidates.

I will vote for the best ticket, not for their party. If the quality of the candidates on the tickets were roughly equal, I'd vote Democrat.

But Obama's not experienced enough to rate a vote, not with all the stuff going on right now. But even with Obama on top, Clinton is such a heavyweight I'd vote for the ticket with her on it as VP.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:58 PM

Sam Nunn is out of the country and is too normal and sensible to agree to participate in this doomed circus.

Posted by: Dorothy from Columbus | August 22, 2008 4:56 PM

It's gonna be Sam Nunn. National security credentials, former Senator of Georgia(USA), appeal to Appalachian and working class voters, he's the real deal. Not a poser, pretender, or tinhorn. He retired from politics years ago at the start of the decline of the Democratic party. This is the moment he has been waiting for.

Posted by: hawghed | August 22, 2008 4:50 PM

>>Idiot wrote: ""Picture it, Trinity Church 2006. Michelle Shiniqua Obama speaking from the pulpit. Hair flooded with Afro Sheen, Her prominent nostrils flared wide open."

Well, this is racist. it's racist and bizarre. Whomever posted it was wrong.

But that's no more appropriate than all the coverage of Clinton's cleavage, thighs, speculation on her sex life, witch imagery and other sexist stuff that the Obama supporters and media subjected us to day after day.

What's worse is that Obama supporters and the media deny that they were woman-bashing or sexist.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:49 PM

AsperGirl writes: I'm just a rare voice on the side of what is generally a Silent Majority. Not all Clinton supporters are so vocal.
_____________________

Neither are all Clinton supporters very serious about her. Otherwise they would help her with her debt. What's the amount now? $24million? I think, AsperGirl, you are more of a minority than majority.

There were Clinton supporters at our caucus. The three on my street now have Obama signs in the window. They actually care about the issues, not the cult of Hillary. With all due respect to Hillary, she's a smart lady - but some of her supporters care more about spite than the causes Hillary cares about.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 4:48 PM

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"Picture it, Trinity Church 2006.

Michelle Shiniqua Obama speaking from the pulpit.

Hair flooded with Afro Sheen,

Her prominent nostrils flared wide open."
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There is plain racism and then there are bigots...the above seems to have even exceeded that towards realm of pure stupidity...

ALL ARE AMERICANS...COLOR DOESNT MATTER...GO READ THE CONSTITUTION MORON


Posted by: Idiot | August 22, 2008 4:40 PM

What to do and how to deal with Hillary and Bill in the White House is a moot question if Senator Obama does not get to the White House.

You want a fully energized Democratic Party with a distinct possibility of getting the majority vote of women regardless of their current political affiliation thus giving you the best chance of actually occupying the White House, you make Senator Clinton your VP.

I will say that Senator Biden would be the other best viable alternative but any other choice will raise more questions than answers and the fact is there is no time left to be answering new questions.

Posted by: Caryl S. Foster | August 22, 2008 4:40 PM

Any word from John McMansions?

Posted by: Spectator2 | August 22, 2008 4:39 PM

Chet "Unibrow" Edwards

Posted by: Dorothy from Columbus | August 22, 2008 4:38 PM

>>ClaraDiehlson wrote: "I'm still hoping for Kerry. I'm looking forward to an Obama presidency, with a planned withdrawal from Iraq, which will improve our economy."

That pegs you as a bluestocking liberal who aspires to elect a phony elitist McGovern type. You must be speaking out of, oh, six decades of frustration of your candidates not getting elected and your vote never counting. You're the type of ivory tower clueless waif who, along with the media, gets loser nominees picked every Democratic primary season.

I bet you were all over Howard Dean, Bill Bradley, Michael Dukakis, Gary Hart and George McGovern.

You don't speak for all academic women.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:36 PM

4:01/Evans - What does that have to do with racism?

Vice-President: Hillary? Not a Chance! He can't stand her strong personality. She's no "sweetie".

For Secretary of
State Louis Farrakhan
Treasury: Tony Rezko
Justice; William Ayers
National Security Advisor: The Rev. Jeremiah Wright

Posted by: Jimmy | August 22, 2008 4:36 PM

Poll after Poll NObama can't get highher the 40% of the "White" vote.

Unless that changes drastically this race is over.

I've always stated Whites will not support this lying racist.

NObama has millions why his brother stealy his next meal to stay alive.

Oh, he really cares.

DEMS - He's got my vote!!

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 22, 2008 4:35 PM

4:01/Evans- What does that have to do wth racism?

Vice-President: Hillary? Not a CHance. He couldnt stand her strong poersonality. She's no "swetie". He will pick a wimp who cannot overshadow him.

Now for Secretary of
State: Louis Farrakhan
Treasury: Tony Rezko
National Secutiry Advisor: The Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Justive: William Ayers
Interior: Michelle Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 4:32 PM

"We just don't have good choices this year. McCain is experienced, but also old and crotchety"

Crotchety? Does this mean he's always scratching his balls.

What exactly does crotchty mean?

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 4:32 PM

>>2008 wrote: "Do you ever get tired of cutting and pasting googled items to support your sad campaign of one?"

Well, since Obama supporters spend all their time beating their heads and demanding that the PUMA's and Clinton supporters are throwing away the election for their candidate, sounds to me like I'm just a rare voice on the side of what is generally a Silent Majority. Not all Clinton supporters are so vocal.

But unless Obama gets us onboard, your candidate's train's going nowhere, fast. Clinton supporters are more important than Obama supporters. Your candidate won't win jack without us, no matter how many of you gather on the Internet and jabber your lame, sociopathic groupthink on blogs. Get used to it.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:28 PM

We just don't have good choices this year. McCain is experienced, but also old and crotchety. Obama is young, inexperienced and arrogant. I don't trust either one on national security or the economy, and I doubt Obama's VP choice will help me feel more passionate about the Democrats this year. I may vote reluctantly for Obama or just go straight to work that day.

Posted by: DC Democrat | August 22, 2008 4:28 PM

>>2008 wrote: "blah, blah, aspertwit...don't you have a family to go disappoint? They should stage an intervention, maybe even order a moving van to get you out of the house once in while. Do you ever get tired of cutting and pasting googled items to support your sad campaign of one? You get more bitter and spiteful every new day. You are almost too sad to mock."

How would you know I'm here "every new day"?

I'm watching the stock market. What are you doing here?

Oh yeah, you're a DailyKos sockpuppet! You're making a few cents spewing Obama talking points and sociopathic groupthink on blogs all day, pretending to be a real reader/poster.

You're part of the cult of the stupid, liberal arts C-average 4th tier school legion who can't get jobs with your underachieving academic record and no-load degree, and you blame it on Republicans. You want to tax people like me, who studied while you were partying on Spring break, because you claim people like me had it easier than people like you.

You want me to pay "reparations" for all the things you don't have and all the money you can't make because you didn't pick up a book in your lame liberal arts (probably journalism) class until finals week.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:25 PM

>>>Some of us are Hillary Clinton supporters, who are waiting for Obama's VP pick before committing to supporting McCain.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:05 PM

Delusional folks...Can't see Hillary Clinton as the VP pick, based on how she ran her campaign. Besides, Hillary is poison for Obama with that emotional husband of hers.

Like I said earlier, I'll throw out Sen. Diane Feinstein for a female VP pick. Hillary has nothing on her...and especially since Diane Feinstein is everything that Hillary is not. I rather see DF on the ticket before I would ever want to see HRC on the ticket.

The Clintons' time has passed. No entitlements are due to them. And no dynasties need to apply, since we've already had one screw up the country.

Posted by: ldsw | August 22, 2008 4:23 PM

He's a media star, but not a president.

Posted by: Juan | August 22, 2008 4:22 PM

Picture it, Trinity Church 2006.

Michelle Shiniqua Obama speaking from the pulpit.

Hair flooded with Afro Sheen,

Her prominent nostrils flared wide open.

Brow furrowed, and a scowl of hate written across her face.

Michelle "Fist Pumping" the air in an absolute rage".

All the while ranting against "Whitey" and how they (Whitey) keep raising the bar!

The congregation is worked into a frenzy "SCREAMING" You Go Girl" Bring it Home Sister Obama,

The Church Organ is hammering away playing heavy bar chords.

This, my friends is what we will see in October when they release her "whitey-gate" tapes on YouTube.

Chevy - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 22, 2008 4:22 PM

Despite his race, I am amazed by what Senator Obama has accomplished. I have been in this country for 5 years and when I arrived I was struck at how poor and uneducated most blacks are. I could never figure out why most had children out of wedlock, sold drugs, and were in jail. I suppose it is the slave metality from generations ago but at some point they will have to take responsibility. I think that is the reason Senator Obama appeals to so many whites because he isn't 100% black. He has a black face but the mentality of a white person. That makes the vote palatable and they can feel good about themselves. I doubt many of these white voters would go for an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson - just too black and they are for more representative of the black American - not Barack Obama.

Posted by: Rahiq Syed | August 22, 2008 4:21 PM

In addition to the photos of the 7 houses, I would also like to see the market value of each McCain house with its photo.

Posted by: Francis | August 22, 2008 4:21 PM

The highly qualified Americans you call are most likely immigrants brought to US from Europe/Asia :) and most of them don't vote, that's why.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 4:18 PM

With all the highly qualified people in the U. S. how did we end up with these two fools. either Americans are very dumb or very gullible.

Posted by: roncraw | August 22, 2008 4:12 PM

Why are so many American's against Obama? What has the republicans or the democrats done for any of you anyway? they promise things and don't deliver. So why do you have strong bias towards any? Stop being so Stupid and getting Duped, at least go for something historical and different. I mean it really doesn't matter. Sure with McCain you might have an all out war with Iran and have your kids slaughtered for who knows why. With Obama it will be the first halfblack man to be president oh and he most likely would not take you to a stupid no reason war. While with both economy will most likely get worse and eventually get back to what it was. My two cents.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 4:12 PM

Obama may be biracial, but he is sure enough on "CP time" (Colored People's time) in regard to making his VP announcement.

There is the clock that the rest of world runs on and there is Obama's clock!

Posted by: Conscious | August 22, 2008 4:11 PM

Members of the press, is it possible for us to see each of the seven (7) McCain homes?

Posted by: Effy | August 22, 2008 4:06 PM

hey Grace - you wrote:

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

You're no Democrat. And what you're enabling with your pathetic little 'protest' vote is more like:

McCain 2008
War with Iraq 2009
Enjoy the blood on your hands!

Posted by: Rob Howard | August 22, 2008 4:06 PM

>>Evans wrote: "Senator Obama has made his selection--WHEN he chooses to divulge it is his choice. Why people dont get that is beyond me."

Some of us are Hillary Clinton supporters, who are waiting for Obama's VP pick before committing to supporting McCain.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 4:05 PM

Jesus was one of the most radical liberal, anti-materialistic socialists in human history. Jesus has about as much in common with modern day Conservatives as Mother Teresa does with Donald Trump.

Posted by: sabatiawiseup wiseup | August 22, 2008 4:02 PM


Is the paint dry yet?

Posted by: WylieD | August 22, 2008 4:01 PM

It continues to grate and amaze me to see that too many Americans are still so racist--just check out some of these posts, which are ignorant and inane too boot.

Senator Obama has made his selection--WHEN he chooses to divulge it is his choice. Why people dont get that is beyond me.

Again, why is the public and media so worried about when Senator Obama will announce? The Demo Convention isn't until Monday--he's got plenty of time.

McCain has been the presumptive nominee for two months. Has he made his selection known yet?

Gimme a break--those of you who want Senator Obama to adhere to your timetables need to get a life--and worry about stuff in your lives. Comprende?

Posted by: Evans | August 22, 2008 4:01 PM

>>David40 wrote: "What's all this about us having to wait a long time for Obama to announce his VP choice? McCain had the nomination in the bag almost 2 months before Obama did and he hasn't announced his choice yet."

If it makes a big difference what Obama's pick is, that means that McCain might make a diversity pick. Like a woman, or a black, or a black woman.

I like Condoleeza Rice as McCain's VP. I also like Carly Fiorina.

He won't risk a woman if Obama picks Clinton, tho.

McCain has already told his base to expect an "unconventional" VP. If Obama doesn't pick Hillary Clinton, McCain will pick probably someone pro-choice or a woman, to better attract Clinton supporters.

If Obama does pick Hillary Clinton, McCain will go steer hard right.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 3:55 PM

What's all this about us having to wait a long time for Obama to announce his VP choice? McCain had the nomination in the bag almost 2 months before Obama did and he hasn't announced his choice yet. That means McCain has had almost two months longer to decide but with no action. Many VP choices weren't chosen until after the convention started. The fact is, neither Obama nor McCain is late with their selection.

Posted by: David40 | August 22, 2008 3:49 PM

Who could possibly give a sh#*!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 3:49 PM

One thing for sure, Obama sure knows how to run an organization. Imagine if the federal government becomes efficient! Just doing that alone in Washington, is a big change. Can't wait until he gets the keys to the door.

Now with the VP announcement, not one leak, not a drip and even the press can't pressure him into making a statement before he wants to. It shows a team approach, organizational discipline and professionalism. The press heat needs to go away and concentrate on the number of houses that John McCain owns. That is very interesting to those of us trying to get one, or trying to hold on to the one we have.

Posted by: Joya | August 22, 2008 3:49 PM

How to tell you're going to lose the general election:

The stock market tumbles every time your campaign looks strong and surges every time your campaign looks lame.

Forget the media, people put their money where their hearts are.

There's an inverse relationship between Obama numbers and the stock market sometimes.

On the last primary day, the first Tuesday in June, the stock market slid 150 points within the first 2 minutes that the AP newswire flashed that Obama had "clinched" the nomination by lining up enough superdelegates (it was about 1:26 pm I recall).

LOL.

The media can write all the fatuous hyperbole they want. But the impulses and confidence of hundreds of thousands of analysts trading at once is a better measure of the country's subconsciousness.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 3:48 PM

Or Bernardine Dohrn, for the female/Weathergirl bomber vote

Posted by: Dorothy from Columbus | August 22, 2008 3:42 PM

The funniest thing is that if Obama thinks things are bad with Clinton supporters now, he'll get a load of it after the convention.

If I could place a bet, I'd say a lot of them were doing what I've been doing, and sitting on my donations and my volunteer time, waiting for the convention before jumping to McCain. I bet others have been sitting on their support, waiting to make sure Clinton isn't going to be on the ticket.

I don't think Clinton should be Obama's VP, but if he doesn't pick her, I'd bet there will be a surge in McCain numbers and donations after the dust settles from the Democratic convention, not in Obama numbers.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 3:39 PM

Bill Ayers.

Posted by: Dorothy from Columbus | August 22, 2008 3:39 PM

We know it won't be either Clinton, they were never vetted. It would be hard to have Hillary on the ticket given Bill's recent tantrums. Hillary was always the best Clinton, too bad she wasn't president instead of Bill last time.

It won't be Richardson, Hagel, Gore, or Nunn.

I'm still hoping for Kerry. I'm looking forward to an Obama presidency, with a planned withdrawal from Iraq, which will improve our economy.

And AsperityGirl: you don't speak for white women.

Posted by: ClaraDiehlson | August 22, 2008 3:38 PM

This just proves his level of maturity which is why come Nov. He'll be hammerd.

If I were the press I'd tell him we're not interested, we're more interested in you using a federal convicted thief to consumate a land deal with.


Posted by: Chevy | August 22, 2008 3:37 PM

I think he should pick Bayh - for no other reason than it will be fun hearing people say Obama/Bayh '08


Try saying it a few times fast!!!

Posted by: postofficebox127 | August 22, 2008 3:37 PM

This delay continues to demonstrate indecisiveness on the part of Barack Husein Obama. He clearly cannot handle the job of President of the United States.

Posted by: Alan Combs | August 22, 2008 3:37 PM

Do you know if my vote counts if
I vote McCain for President and Biden for Vice President (assuming Biden is on ballot)?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 3:36 PM

>>aleks wrote: "Yes, it's definitely the Obamas who should blush at the name Monica Lewinsky. And note the typical obsession with miscegenation. Karl Rove's trained these their tiny little minds well."
>> drjesullivan wrote: "Obama's pick is Monica Lewinsky. Campaign slogan: "She's the other white meat."

Isn't it appalling how these Obama supporters have the nerve to come on here calling women "white meat", while crying "racism" at anyone who doesn't support their candidate?

What does that make Obama, "dark meat"?

How offensive can you be. drjesullivan, you need to go back to DailyKos boot camp. The Obamabots are supposed to lay off race-baiting whites because it was backfiring on their candidate.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 3:36 PM

What do John Edwards and John McCain have in common?

Posted by: PantyhouseMan | August 22, 2008 3:33 PM

>>sabatia wrote: "If Obama picked Jesus Christ himself, the so-called Christians and Clinton obsessives would still hate him."

And so speaks a voice from the Obama's very narrow base: blacks, young-and-dumb kids, and ivory tower liberals.

Wow, I'm really impressed with your own objectivity, seeing as how you obvious come from the mainstream.

Believe it or not, those who don't support Obama are mainstream. Those who do support Obama are just a very highly motivated and frenetic, but narrow, base.

You're a laugh, a cult member calling everyone else fringe.

And you don't have to be one of those crazy Christians to be underwhelmed by a guy who had trouble answering Rev. Warren's simple questions about who he is, what he believes in and what his defining life experiences have been.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 3:32 PM

What do Rush Limbaugh and Cindy McCain have in common?

Posted by: Pillman | August 22, 2008 3:31 PM

It's Bingaman of New Mexico!

Posted by: Luka | August 22, 2008 3:30 PM

Sabatia,
Jesus is a Conservative. He'd never accept the offer.

Posted by: sabatia wise up | August 22, 2008 3:28 PM

>> drjesullivan wrote: "Obama's pick is Monica Lewinsky. Campaign slogan: "She's the other white meat."
She and Maureen Dowd would be the only two white women lining up for him.
Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:52 PM

Yes, it's definitely the Obamas who should blush at the name Monica Lewinsky. And note the typical obsession with miscegenation. Karl Rove's trained these their tiny little minds well.

Posted by: aleks | August 22, 2008 3:27 PM

If Obama picked Jesus Christ himself, the so-called Christians and Clinton obsessives would still hate him. What a great pair by the way--not Christ and Obama, but rightwing Christians and nut case Clintonistas--both so foolish that they will vote against their own interests, against everything that Hillary has stood for, and against Christ himself. Amazing how effective the Republicans are at duping the American public so that they can enrich their own bank accounts.

Posted by: sabatia | August 22, 2008 3:26 PM

OBAMA/CLINTON WILL BE UNBEATABLE OBAMA SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT.

Posted by: MIKE | August 22, 2008 3:24 PM

Dan Novak or Dan Balz, I always tought you look stupid on Washington Week, but asking about Obama choosing a VP, have you asked if McCain chose his VP.
Why, is the stupid MEDIA always asking the stupidest questions, does the American even care, I, no I dont.
Shut the doors for all the MEDIA at the Democrate and Republican convention.
I dont want the MEDIA choosing the the next president, they do a horrible job, just look at the last 7 1/2 years.

Posted by: Louis Levario | August 22, 2008 3:21 PM

Obama has played this VP game all week to take attention from the fact that they got a miserable defeat at Saddleback.

Good politics, but lame in pulic opinion, in my opinion.

McCain should pick Palin for VP!
Conservatives unite, get behind a Palin ticket! Look us up.

Posted by: Paul | August 22, 2008 3:21 PM

More like a Paris Hilton entrance.

Posted by: theuglytruth | August 22, 2008 3:18 PM

OBAMA PICKED.

DON KING AS HIS VP
FLAVOR FLAV AS HIS DEF MINSTER
FAT COW OPRAH AS HIS HEALT MINSTER
ALSHARPTON AS HIS FINANCE MINSTER
O. J AS HIS A.G

Posted by: GREAT NEWS | August 22, 2008 3:18 PM

Obama picked Hilliary!!!!

Posted by: Put that in your pipe and smoke it | August 22, 2008 3:18 PM

precisely what has the "roll-out" been?

No one knows nothing.

Posted by: I am not the stupid one! | August 22, 2008 3:17 PM

The wait is over! Obama has picked Felipe Calderon as his VP. Together, they can merge Mexico with the US. Together, they can force Americans to "teach their children Spanish."

That is change you can believe in.

Posted by: Thom Jefferson | August 22, 2008 3:00 PM
---------------------------------------------
I know you didn't mean it to be funny, but even I laughed at this one. Pero yo lo hablo...not well, but well enough. And my kids do, too--they know they have nothing to fear. Too bad you live in a world of such anxiety. I wish it were otherwise for you, honestly. It would be better for everyone. I don't mean that to be unkind or sarcastic, either.

Posted by: tellthetruth | August 22, 2008 3:17 PM

YO:

the new VP will pull an OJ!!!

Posted by: theuglytruth | August 22, 2008 3:17 PM

It will be texted early tomorrow morning. That way, when the VP candidate leaves his house to go to the airport with the press watching his every move, the press will already know. Otherwise, how does the candidate head to Springfield without someone noticing?

Posted by: Yo | August 22, 2008 3:15 PM

GREAT NEWS
OBAMA PICKED FLAVOR FLAV AS HIS VP

Posted by: bibihenna | August 22, 2008 3:15 PM

2008:

I'm multi-tasking right now -- just toying with you -- wait until after the convention ; )

Posted by: JakeD
*****************
Well, I am happy that your other hand is occupied, Jake...

Posted by: 2008 | August 22, 2008 3:14 PM

So much rich material to pick on. It's too easy to pick on Obama. I was just getting warmed up.

McCain isn't nearly as fun.

Maybe I should get some Anti-Obama shots in, just in case he does pick Hillary Clinton and this is my last window...

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:36 PM

In AsperGirl world, there's apparently nothing to be said about the Clintons.

Posted by: aleks | August 22, 2008 3:14 PM

Great News
Obama picked Don king as his VP

Posted by: bibihenna | August 22, 2008 3:13 PM

"Obscene"?! Please quote even ONE such alleged post ...

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 3:13 PM

blah, blah, aspertwit...don't you have a family to go disappoint? They should stage an intervention, maybe even order a moving van to get you out of the house once in while. Do you ever get tired of cutting and pasting googled items to support your sad campaign of one? You get more bitter and spiteful every new day. You are almost too sad to mock.

Posted by: 2008 | August 22, 2008 3:12 PM

ldsw:

Interesting theory -- so, the ankle injury was a grand ruse to throw the press off her trail?!

2008:

I'm multi-tasking right now -- just toying with you -- wait until after the convention ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 3:11 PM

Keyna Calling:
(Barack) Who dat?
(George)Yo, this be your brother!
(Barack) Click

Keyna Calling:
(Barack) Who dis is?
(George) Yo, somtin happind, dis b yo bro George Hussein Onyango Obama. Remember we were in the Muslim school together learning about bomb making?
(Barack) No, Who? I'm an only child!
(George) What? Barack, why don't you mention me Barack? Tell people how happy you are of me. I'll be your VP. O'h tax more people and send me some money, man! I need it out in the sticks.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24226262-5012748,00.html

Posted by: George Hussein Onyango Obama | August 22, 2008 3:11 PM

The Obama game playing with the Vice President announcement is STUPID. It shows more of the "I am the celebrity you seek" play.


I would suggest he talk to Mark Burnett about the following concept after the convention:


* a Congressional Game Show for "To Drill or Not to Drill" with speeches, signage, and graphs


* a Reality Show for "Save the Fetus-Thumbs Up or Down"


* Mile High Stadium Gladiator competition called "3rd World Tyrant Negotiation"


* Democratic "Shell Game" Game - "Which War should be fight?" Not Iraq, Yes Afghan, Now Pakistan


* "What's My Line-Name that Radical" Ayers, Farrikhan, Rezko, Wright


* "Environmental Dunk Tank" Game for getting Carbon Credits for Hollywood jets - rights to dunk Gore, Pelosi, and Reid


Brian


Posted by: bamvol | August 22, 2008 3:11 PM

Posted by: theuglytruth | August 22, 2008 3:10 PM

Hey Wapo, the comments by JakeD are obscene; clean it up!

For Obama, Biden does indeed look like the best choice, other than if his hubris could handle it - Al Gore, John Kerry, or Hillary Clinton.

One of them would open this race right up.

About McCain: if he chooses Romney, he will look like McBush, Rove & Co. and he will lose. Therefore McGoo should pick
either Colin Powell, Chuck Hagel, Michael Bloomberg, Sara Palin, Fred Thompson, Carly Fiorina, Tim Pawlenty, Charlie Crist -anybody but Varmitt Mittler!

Posted by: Maj Worth | August 22, 2008 3:10 PM

IDSW:
(5) She's a moderate like Obama. Regardless of the GOP propaganda that BO is the most liberal senator - BO is way more moderate than people give him credit for; I think BO is simply trying to toe the party line on with this liberal thing.

It wasn't the GOP propaganda- it was National Journal. Here's the link:

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Obama is many things: moderate is not one.

Posted by: RightPOV | August 22, 2008 3:09 PM

It's clear why Obama is doing this. Media stooges like WaPo write a new top-line article every 2 hours about Obama and how he still hasn't picked his VP. Every celebrity knows that any publicity is better than no publicity.

Posted by: Rightie | August 22, 2008 3:09 PM

I say make 'em wait! Keep waiting. The longer the better.

And this left-winger would welcome Chuck Hagel. It's about dam* time for some compromise in this country. Time to get something done for the benefit of the people, not just the outmoded, outdated, slow-to-respond, defiantly stagnant political parties. They have completely outlived their usefulness--and I mean both of them.

I wish, back in 2000, McCain and Bill Bradley had joined forces. I would have voted for that ticket. But, I know...if wishes were horses...

Posted by: tellthetruth | August 22, 2008 3:07 PM

Rush ends in 2 minutes. Then Obama can announce. He can't have 20 million listeners talk about the VP.

Posted by: RightPOV
*********************
They talk? I thought it was druggie Rush and 20 million mouth breathers. Who knew?

Posted by: 2008 | August 22, 2008 3:06 PM

>>"Anonymous" wrote: "Ohh, Aspercream, be careful - your hood is slipping..."

Oh, compare me to a pain reliever. That really hurts!

And call me "racist" for not being an Obama supporter. That's original. In response to your tired "racism" accusation, I'll quote Jonah Goldberg's article today at you and tell you that A LOT of people don't support Obama and Obama supporters who don't get why are retarded:

"The winds at the Democrats' backs are hurricane-force gales, and yet there's Obama holding steady, like a young Dan Rather in his schoolgirl rain slicker, immobile and unmovable."

"Ask the typical Obama supporter why this should be so and you'll get a range of answers. Some just stare at the poll numbers the way my late basset hound would look at me when I tried to feed him a grape: with pure unblinking incomprehension. Others act like the guy who sits alone with his shopping bags at the public library, muttering about Fox News conspiracies and how Karl Rove-like aliens are doing terrible things with probes of proctological exactitude. Still others just shake their heads at the racism of anyone who could possibly have a problem with a very left-wing politician with almost no experience, who often sounds like his campaign slogan is: "People of Earth! Stop Your Bickering. I Am From Harvard, And I'm Here To Help.""

Jonah Goldberg
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/the_mystery_of_obamas_problems.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 3:06 PM

I think we're about to pull into the city limits of Whocaresville.

Maybe the media can finally quit generating Obama's cotton candy for a while.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 3:06 PM

Question: When you apply for Welfare
in Mexico what does that Government give you?


Answer: A map to Obama's house in Chicago.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 3:05 PM

Oh...what are you all waiting for? I will throw out a different pick that no one is talking about -- Sen. Diane Feinstein.

Know why?

(1) Sen. Feinstein is known to work across the aisle - something that Sen. Obama will find appealing.

(2) She's female, a supporter of HRC and is of the same generation as HRC and many of HRC's older supporters, so this one gives back more support to them -- without the HRC poison, of course.

(3) Sen. Feinstein knows how to keep things close to the vest -- remember how she helped arrange the Obama/Clinton meeting after the primaries that left the media spinning their wheels?

(4) Sen. Feinstein also has executive experience as a mayor of a major city (San Francisco), so she can also offer some insight from this perspective.

(5) She's a moderate like Obama. Regardless of the GOP propaganda that BO is the most liberal senator - BO is way more moderate than people give him credit for; I think BO is simply trying to toe the party line on with this liberal thing.

(6) Feinstein is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee as Chairman of the Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security Subcommittee.

(7) Feinstein is also a member of the Senate subcommittees for Administrative Oversight and the Courts (think Supreme Court here), Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship (broken borders is a major issue to address), Constitution, Civil Rights, and Property Rights (need to restore civil liberties grabbed by the Executive in the name of terrorism - that was a promise of BO during a campaign stop).

(8) In addition to these Senate committee assignments, Sen. Feinstein is also a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which touches on foreign policy for both the military and civilian US government departments and agencies.

(9) For the neglected domestic side of things that BO must address if he is elevated to the U.S. Presidency, Sen. Feinstein is a member of the Senate Committee on Appropriations where she has a window on appropriations and obligations of the U.S. government.

Posted by: ldsw | August 22, 2008 3:05 PM

McNutJob:

I've "worked" plenty in my life. Can't I enjoy my retirement now?

2008:

As long as you know the truth, that's all that matters.

Posted by: JakeD
************************
Oh, JakeD, you are not as snappy with the one liners as you once were. You have got to find a better way to enjoy your retirement.

Posted by: 2008 | August 22, 2008 3:03 PM

Isn't Rush a drug addict homosexual, too? Seems to be the MO of a lot of Republicans.....hmmm...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 3:02 PM

Senator Bill Nelson of Florida is Obama's choice.

www.ObamaNelson.com

DFT

Posted by: dft | August 22, 2008 3:02 PM

Obama is not picking Hillary.

Hillary supporters are voting for McCain in 2008.

It is quite obvious Obama will lose because of his decision today.

Everyone is watching the VP pick because we are still shocked that Obama will not pick a female like Hillary Clinton. She is bold intelligent leader with lots of supporters to help Obama win.


McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Grace | August 22, 2008 3:02 PM

The wait is over! Obama has picked Felipe Calderon as his VP. Together, they can merge Mexico with the US. Together, they can force Americans to "teach their children Spanish."

That is change you can believe in.

Posted by: Thom Jefferson | August 22, 2008 3:00 PM

Rush ends in 2 minutes. Then Obama can announce. He can't have 20 million listeners talk about the VP.

Posted by: RightPOV | August 22, 2008 2:59 PM

I'll get you Hillary! And your little dog, too!

Ding dong the witch is dead! The old white witch! The old white witch!

Oh NOOO! My margin is MELTING, MELTING...

Gallup Obama 45 McCain 44
Rasmussen Obama 45 McCain 44

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:58 PM

McNutJob:

I've "worked" plenty in my life. Can't I enjoy my retirement now?

2008:

As long as you know the truth, that's all that matters.

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 2:57 PM

She and Maureen Dowd would be the only two white women lining up for him.

Posted by: AsperGirl
********************
Ohh, Aspercream, be careful - your hood is slipping...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:57 PM

This just proves his level of maturity which is why come Nov. He'll be hammerd.

If I were the press I'd tell him we're not interested, we're more interested in you using a federal convicted thief to consumate a land deal with.

Posted by: Chevy | August 22, 2008 2:56 PM

I see a parallel here between Obama and Kanye West at Bonaroo...

Posted by: Uh Oh... | August 22, 2008 2:54 PM

All of you please go and get jobs, Aspergirl, you can volunteer now for the McCain we need you.

Posted by: McNutJob | August 22, 2008 2:54 PM

In the meantime, how many people out there can't remember how many homes they have?

the Magoo campaign response to everything: noun + verb + POW

Posted by: LH | August 22, 2008 2:54 PM

>>Anonymous wrote: "Hillary needs money! Brother can you give me a dime?"

Get a clue. Obama needs the money us Clinton donors would give him more. What it would take to pay down her debt is nothing compared to what would go to him if our wallets opened.

He's going to be roughly even with McCain in the money game, if the Clinton donors don't get on board, which is a big miscalculation on his part.

It's not just about the votes, it's about the money we're not sending him. He can spend all his money on registration drives to drum up votes from the uninvolved and marginal people, but not only does that not give him as many votes as the Clinton supporters are holding back, but those kind of people don't give money.

So Obama needs Clinton supporters more than the media lets on or his campaign will say.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:42 PM
___________________________________________

You WISH!! Get outta town!! Save that ish for the suckers that don't know any better....Obama made 7.5 million donation in one day at a fund raiser this week!!! Although you won't admit it...Obama already HAVE quite a very large number of Hillary's supporters....We ain't as stupid as you think! LMAO!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:53 PM

To the coward posting as:

Posted by: AsperGirl and Pizza: a love affair | August 22, 2008 2:42 PM
Posted by: My name is Travis Chapman and I am an idiot | August 22, 2008 2:40 PM

Not only are your posts un-funny, you're also too afraid to put your own handle on them. Which marks you as one of those no-cojones Obama supporters.

Obama needs to pick Hillary because he needs a pair on his ticket. He also needs someone who is a supporter of his to have a pair.

Posted by: No-cojones No-bama |
*******************
To the brave a$$hat posting as "no cojones" - uhhh, that's your poster name? Really? Why don't you go back to posting as Travis, m'kay?

Posted by: Why the obsession with balls, Travis? | August 22, 2008 2:53 PM

>> drjesullivan wrote: "Obama's pick is Monica Lewinsky. Campaign slogan: "She's the other white meat."

She and Maureen Dowd would be the only two white women lining up for him.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:52 PM

I can't wait for McCain to win the thing and we can be done with this American idol Obama nonsense.
He is not strong enough to lead this country.

Posted by: veronica | August 22, 2008 2:52 PM

It doesn't seem like it matters much any more who Obama picks - his collapse is gaining speed by the hour. Look for his numbers to drop even faster after the announcement.

Posted by: Ralph C. | August 22, 2008 2:51 PM

Senator Bill Nelson of Florida is Obama's choice.

www.ObamaNelson.com

DFT

Posted by: dft | August 22, 2008 2:50 PM

This really reflects badly on Obama. Is this the way he is going to make decisions if he is elected? It's just immature. Come to think of it, that's just the way he is.

Posted by: John | August 22, 2008 2:50 PM

To the coward posting as:

Posted by: AsperGirl and Pizza: a love affair | August 22, 2008 2:42 PM
Posted by: My name is Travis Chapman and I am an idiot | August 22, 2008 2:40 PM

Not only are your posts un-funny, you're also too afraid to put your own handle on them. Which marks you as one of those no-cojones Obama supporters.

Obama needs to pick Hillary because he needs a pair on his ticket. He also needs someone who is a supporter of his to have a pair.

Posted by: No-cojones No-bama | August 22, 2008 2:48 PM

Obama is waiting until 3:00pm. He is afraid to make his pick and allow Rush Limbaugh and talk radio to start laughing going into the weekend.

Posted by: Kevin | August 22, 2008 2:47 PM

2008:

Yes. The truth hurts, huh?

Posted by: JakeD
****************
Wow, a couple days before he announces his VP, he discusses his VP choice. Golly, you must have been first in your "How to make churlish arguments and score no points" class. So what? You don't care, you are planning to vote for McDraft. But I see Aspercream is turned on by your dazzling mastery of the obvious - so you have a little fan. Good for you.

Posted by: 2008 | August 22, 2008 2:47 PM

McCain does not need to worry. He is going to win. The Democrats saw to that when they nominated Obama.
Obama, as always, is doing or saying anything for a vote. But he is too late! We are TIRED of him! YES WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF HIM!

Posted by: DEM NOW IND | August 22, 2008 2:46 PM

Obama's pick is Monica Lewinsky. Campaign slogan: "She's the other white meat."

Posted by: drjesullivan | August 22, 2008 2:44 PM

Senator Bill Nelson of Florida is Obama's choice.

www.ObamaNelson.com

DFT

Posted by: dft | August 22, 2008 2:44 PM

VMR: So, does that mean you like Coke or Pepsi. McDonalds or Burger King?

Posted by: drjesullivan | August 22, 2008 2:43 PM

Does John MCcain looked abit worried on CNN the clip of the day or is that just my imagination?

Posted by: Does Mccain looked worried on CNN clip of the day | August 22, 2008 2:42 PM

>>Anonymous wrote: "Hillary needs money! Brother can you give me a dime?"

Get a clue. Obama needs the money us Clinton donors would give him more. What it would take to pay down her debt is nothing compared to what would go to him if our wallets opened.

He's going to be roughly even with McCain in the money game, if the Clinton donors don't get on board, which is a big miscalculation on his part.

It's not just about the votes, it's about the money we're not sending him. He can spend all his money on registration drives to drum up votes from the uninvolved and marginal people, but not only does that not give him as many votes as the Clinton supporters are holding back, but those kind of people don't give money.

So Obama needs Clinton supporters more than the media lets on or his campaign will say.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:42 PM

Maybe I should get some Anti-Obama shots in, just in case he does pick Hillary Clinton and this is my last window...


Posted by: AsperGirl
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Well, if it is, jump out of it...

Posted by: AsperGirl and Pizza: a love affair | August 22, 2008 2:42 PM

What he got his job back as a No-Bama supporter? Interesting!

Posted by: My name is Travis Chapman and I am an idiot |
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No, a job as a "No Obama" supporter/village idiot. Fascinating, huh?

Posted by: My name is Travis Chapman and I am an idiot | August 22, 2008 2:40 PM

Picking Hillary and Bubba is like picking garbage from a year old garbage can! Obama doesn't need that drama...can you image seeing Monica, Jennifer and the rest of them old hiefers?! Hillary will just walk around in one of them pantsuits, taking shots of liquor & claiming to have lived in every state of the country, while red faced bubba is spitting and screaming and trying to have a party with someones' innocent sweet 16 year old daughter....No I don't think Obama does drama....he know that he can't pick those Clintons....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:40 PM

When Obama makes his choice for VP known, most of us will pause for a monent and say oh. We'll then go on with our lives. Same with McCain and his choice.

It's sad that the media and some bloggers have a need to create a sensational story about a VP selection when there is so little interest. Maybe you folks need to get a real job and start having a life.

Posted by: Media Got Played | August 22, 2008 2:38 PM

I can understand how Obama would choke at picking Hillary. I'll feel the same way if he does pick Hillary and I have to support his ticket!

So much rich material to pick on. It's too easy to pick on Obama. I was just getting warmed up.

McCain isn't nearly as fun.

Maybe I should get some Anti-Obama shots in, just in case he does pick Hillary Clinton and this is my last window...

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:36 PM

I am leaving for the Democratic convention early Sunday morning....I am so excited. I can't wait to see Obama/Kerry 08.....I am a proud Democrat...the neorats stink!

Posted by: Kim | August 22, 2008 2:36 PM

Here we all are waiting for Johnny football hero to text us so we can let him pop our cherry.

Posted by: theuglytruth | August 22, 2008 2:36 PM

Obama has just announced that we now have 56 states..... you think I'm joking.

Posted by: theuglytruth | August 22, 2008 2:34 PM

2008:

Yes. The truth hurts, huh?

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 2:34 PM

Just in....

Hillary needs money! Brother can you give me a dime?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:34 PM

Has the whole country gone absolutely nuts? Senator Obama has EVERY right to announce his VP selection WHENEVER he so chooses. The media and the public simply need to take a "chill pill." The start of the Demo Convention isn't until Monday, for God's sake! Bottom line: this is Senator Obama's selection, point blank period. Same for Senator McCain, who has the right to announce his selection when he so chooses. Neither man has to adhere to the public and the media's timetable. Everyone who's stressing over "WHEN" needs to get a life and focus on what's going on in their lives. I'm sure we all have a lot going on there. Comprende?

Posted by: Evans | August 22, 2008 2:34 PM

Waiting for Obama to text message who is his VP selection is like waiting for white smoke to come from the Vatican to signal that a new Pope has been chosen.

The new Pope is always some old white dude and I bet Obama's selection is some old white dude too.

Posted by: Conscious | August 22, 2008 2:34 PM

You Americans are SUCH unbelievable morons!
Your country, despised by nearly everyone in the world, is spinning fast into the toilet drain, and you have no free press to speak of (a requirement for any democracy to exist).
Yet you obssess with the trivial the weird and the nonsensical in your political life. And keep electing either idiots or downright criminals (or both, in the case of eth current administration). Your political "debates" by the candidates are like bad Rumanian cartoons and your assorted TV and radio
"commentators",
"analysts", and "experts" are all nauseating debils.

You need another revolution for your very survival yet you have no leaders and your population has been nearly totally zombified by advertisiment, chemically "enriched" foods, drugs, TV, and cheap faux patriotism.

Ah, but the most important thing for your thoroughly yellow media is to correctly guess Obama's VP choice.

[spitting in disgust]

Posted by: VMR | August 22, 2008 2:33 PM

AT&T has had our phones out of order for nearly 6 days , I guess they don't want us to hear from our FAVORITE so we won't be getting our message via AT&T that is rude. VOTE Barack Obama 2008! Win PLEASE!

Posted by: AT&T not working | August 22, 2008 2:33 PM

What's all this about us having to wait a long time for Obama to announce his VP choice? McCain had the nomination in the bag almost 2 months before Obama did and he hasn't announced his choice yet. That means McCain has had almost two months longer to decide but with no action.

Posted by: David40 | August 22, 2008 2:24 PM
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Its not because McCain is mentally slow (although he is), its because he hasn't been able to find anyone other than Lieberman that will accept the nomination.

Posted by: DWayne | August 22, 2008 2:33 PM

It has been reported that he has choosen, John Kerry!!!!

Posted by: Kim | August 22, 2008 2:32 PM

>>JakeD wrote: "WHAT HAPPENED TO "The next time I talk about VP will be to announce the name?"

Obama probably got scrambled by the fact that he's sliding in the polls. He had a struggle between the two little consciences that sit on his shoulders. On the one side is the thing that wants to win, on the other is his narcissism.

He has to pick between whether or not he wants to win, and his desire to not to be overshadowed by a better VP candidate than will be at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:32 PM

"Nothing will redeem you Texans. Have you forgotten Lyndon B Johnson. What a lair he was.
Posted by: Fred | August 22, 2008 2:15 PM"

I think you've got a misspelling there, Fred. (or maybe just some homonym confusion). For LBJ (and for his predecessor), the word is actually "lay-er".

Posted by: govtDr | August 22, 2008 2:32 PM

WHAT HAPPENED TO "The next time I talk about VP will be to announce the name?"

Posted by: JakeD

The letters "F.O" mean anything to you?

Posted by: 2008 | August 22, 2008 2:31 PM

What he got his job back as a No-Bama supporter? Interesting!

Posted by: My name is Travis Chapman and I am an idiot | August 22, 2008 2:30 PM

Obama has wisely decided to let the major story of hte day be the one about McCain's cluelessness over how many homes he owns and his campaign's related hypocrisy in trying to peg Obama as a spoiled elitist. Smart move on Obama's part. The other story not being reported here is McCain's complete lack of ability to decide on a VP until he knows Obama's VP choice and the lack of leadership that shows.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:30 PM

Well, just received another text...Cindy McCain's two half sisters, not the one who's the daughter from the 1st wife that Cindy's harlot momma stole from the mob guy but the other one who is saying that her momma was just a baby momma! Wow, really confusing....now the rethugs and faux news need to report that these old hags are the TRUE BABY MOMMA'S! LMAO...they are now suing Cindy and John to take a closer look at all the scribble scrabble on those wills.....

Mother Teresa's sister is also suing Cindy for slandering and lying on Mother Teresa...My gosh, first she steals money from the fake charities, write phony RX for drugs, all after stealing old Johnny boy from his disfigured wife, then she steals the recipes and posts them like they're hers and now of all the mean things to do, she lies on Mother Theresa...well I'll be darn...that woman has a lying demon!! Get those christain rethugs to cast them demons outta that woman. Look at her eyes, she looks like a witch! LMAO!!! All women better watch their men around those Cindy momma's!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:28 PM

There sure are a lot of angry Republicans here. Whining about the lack of coverage McCrazy is getting. (Although he says or does on a daily basis, something stupid enough to make the news.) And gnashing their teeth because they couldn't get Hillary nominated.
For the not so bright on the right, a simple count of the total votes shows there were more votes for Democrats than there are registered Democrats. Making it plenty obvious that Hillary's support came from the Rush Limpaw dittohead crowd. Not from Democrats.
For what its worth, Joe Biden WON'T get the VP spot. He's too far left to win a general election. Obama will pick someone more moderate like Chet Edwards.

Posted by: DWayne | August 22, 2008 2:27 PM

It's Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico.

Great selection!

Posted by: Schwartz! | August 22, 2008 2:27 PM

I'm sorry I'm an IDIOT. I remember now why we haven't heard from McCain. His convention is after the DEMOCRAPS. I'm such a DEMOCRAP!!

Posted by: David40 | August 22, 2008 2:27 PM

My village called and I got my job back!!

Posted by: My name is Travis Chapman and I am an idiot... | August 22, 2008 2:26 PM

I don't know a thing about Chet Edwards, and he may well be an excellent selection in terms of his abilities, BUT..... Obama/Edwards '08 is NOT the phrase the Dems should want to go public with. Want to guess what portion of the still up for grabs population is going to not be able to tell him apart from John Edwards when they hear the name?

Major PR Nightmare!

Posted by: govtDr | August 22, 2008 2:25 PM

What's all this about us having to wait a long time for Obama to announce his VP choice? McCain had the nomination in the bag almost 2 months before Obama did and he hasn't announced his choice yet. That means McCain has had almost two months longer to decide but with no action.

Posted by: David40 | August 22, 2008 2:24 PM

It is Evan Bahy, Stupid.

Posted by: C. K. Patel | August 22, 2008 2:23 PM

I just got a texT...Cindy McCain has stated that she will NEVER release those 2007 taxes!!!!

She also stated that she'll sleep with whom ever she chooses and it's nobody's business....She is suing McCain for breaking her wrist after the election! Do you want this McFool to have his frustrated old robot hand on that red phone! I think not@! Send him back to robot land! Send Cindy back to "integrity school"

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 2:22 PM

This just in, EVERYONE is reporting it: CNN, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and BBC it is all over their banner. They found him, they found Osama!

He’s No-bama’s running mate. Some are reporting they received it via text some. No-bama said he is so progressive, so graceful, and so sophisticated that if he’d offer Bin (that’s what he calls him) the position they could then talk about the differences between the US and (Bin and No-Bama) and sing campfire songs and roast marshmallows at the French House, previously known as the White House, while they enjoyed each others company.

Michelle No-Bama now says she loves her new country and her new friend Bin. They have plans to trade dresses and dance to the twilight hours every Ramadan!

Posted by: Travis Chapman | August 22, 2008 2:21 PM

It doesn't matter whom he pick. "Obama disaster" in November will happen.

Then, we can rebuild the Democratic party for the main street America.

Posted by: GY | August 22, 2008 2:20 PM

CLARK WILL WIN

Posted by: e | August 22, 2008 2:19 PM

"Obviously, the most important question is: Is this person ready to be president?" Obama told "The Early Show" on CBS this morning. Second, he said, was: "Can this person help me govern? Are they going to be an effective partner in creating the kind of economic opportunity here at home and guiding us through some dangerous waters internationally?"

And, he added: "I want somebody who is going to be able to challenge my thinking and not simply be a 'yes person' when it comes to policymaking."

WHAT HAPPENED TO "The next time I talk about VP will be to announce the name?"

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 2:19 PM

My head is going to explode if Messiah doesn't tell his VP soon. This media frenzy is becoming ridiculous. Chris Mattew's leg is tingling non-stop.

Posted by: discerner | August 22, 2008 2:18 PM

Obama needs Hillary to win the middle class white collar vote.

This election is for Obama to snatch defeat from the jaws of VICTORY based on his VP choice.

Obama has given so much exposure to the Clintons in the Convention that Hillary is out of the VP contention??

Obama, LOOSE this election at your own risk by ignoring Hillary in 08!!

Kennedy chose LBJ and Reagan chose GHW Bush even after a bitter primary.

Obama needs to wake up before its too late with wanabees like Biden, Bayh or any other but Hillary.

Obama - Hillary in 08 or never!

Posted by: Ajay Jain, Garland, TX, USA | August 22, 2008 2:17 PM

Omigosh, we're all simply breathless with anticipation. I don't know how the reporters like Dan Balz can STAND IT. Gee whiz. Oh my goodness gracious. This is just maddening. We must know. NOW! Oh, that reporter who gets to know first is just so lucky! Oh, I wish I could be him. I'm so jealous. Jeepers.

Posted by: JLE | August 22, 2008 2:17 PM

Nothing will redeem you Texans. Have you forgotten Lyndon B Johnson. What a lair he was.

Posted by: Fred | August 22, 2008 2:15 PM

erI am an Obama support but I am getting tired of the vep game. It reminds me of the cable news when announcing a new break and then they play a commercial instead. Enough is enough, get over it!

Posted by: an annoyed supporter | August 22, 2008 2:15 PM

WOW! It's Stephen Colbert!!!

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:14 PM

Liberal, liberal, not Barack Obama, but the nutcase conservatives who continue to fight to send billions to Iraq. McCain, Bush, Cheney and company should move to Iraq that is where their loyalty is. Do not even mention Obama's liberal record, it is nothing compared to these so called conservatives, er, Republicans. Any more so called tax cuts, I am going to be so broke I won't be able to pay attention.

Posted by: Michael Mahan | August 22, 2008 2:14 PM

Obama took too long to choose a VP. Like Stephanie Miller, I have lost my will to live during the wait.

Posted by: Sharon | August 22, 2008 2:12 PM

AsperGirl:

I doubt it, but even if he did pick her, you know he would do everything he could to minimize her (and Bill). I would still vote for McCain if I were you.

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 2:10 PM

This just in, EVERYONE is reporting it: CNN, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and BBC it is all over their banner.

I just got the text from the Obama Camp!!! Did anyone else get it? I’m so excited I can hardly wait for the real announcement. Did anyone else get the news?

This is what I got:

Dear Loyal Democrat followers of my incredible and ridiculous raise to political fame. I have fooled you all for too long. I can’t believe you have been led around like fools for the last year or so. I’m still in diapers, the most junior Senator in the US Senate, I have no experience what-so-ever and I have fooled you all. Great- what a joke I am! Now that I have gotten this off my scrawny a$$ chest, had my idiot wife disgrace this country by saying she was never proud of it, I want you all to know I’m a damn fool; she’s a damn fool and although I have been chosen to led this pathetic political party, I wont do it alone. I have chosen a candidate that is even worse than I am at leading. You know Him (Cough, Cough – Hmm Her) as Billary. Billary everyone! My VP choice!

Posted by: Travis Chapman | August 22, 2008 2:09 PM

I think we should kick James Carville,out
of the democratic party, I feel, if he
sleeps, with snakes,like mary matalin,then he must be a snake too.we don't need you
remember what he Gov. richardson,last spring, a judas. well James you are the Judas, just like your Arc conservatives
buddies,Rush & Seanita! leave Now James.

Posted by: HORNY FOR HANNITY | August 22, 2008 2:09 PM

as a texan i sure hope its chet edwards, that would give us texans a chance to redeem our image that we are not all stupid. chet edwards highly intelligent, works for veterans, works for the common man and again, did I say intelligent. graduated top of the class in economics. i just sure hope he is da man!

Posted by: geraldine | August 22, 2008 2:07 PM

I'm over it. Is Obama getting his kicks on this? I like him but this game playing is extremely annoying. I don't care if he names God. Announce iat already before I support McCain!

Posted by: Mike from Detroit | August 22, 2008 2:06 PM

I hope it's not Hillary. I really don't want to support Obama...

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:06 PM

I am done with the polictical system, if Obama chooses any one but Hillary. She is the smartest and has the most followers. Who wants those others. Biden didn't get two votes and he is too old. We want Hillary for security, domestic, and foreign policies.

Posted by: Lucille | August 22, 2008 2:05 PM

Anonymous:

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 2:02 PM

Why let Obama maintain the suspense? If he's called those not chosen, why doesn't the RNC just release transcripts of the phone calls? Then it's a simple process of elimination.

Posted by: jameslmhst | August 22, 2008 2:02 PM

Dear Mr. Obama

Please make your pick so that I can go ahead and volunteer for the McCain campaign.

I dread hearing that it's Hillary Clinton.

If it's Hillary, it's going to be really tough supporting you...

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 2:01 PM

No one really cares about Baracky Hussein Obama 's VP selection.

He has an extremely liberal Senate voting record - he cannot run and hide from it.

I hope that Hispanic voters realize that if Obama becomes President, they will be at the bottom of the barrel. Obama will have to pacify the black vote, after receiving 99 % of their vote in November.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: gary | August 22, 2008 2:01 PM

I am done with the Democratic Party if it's not Hillary.

Posted by: From Indiana. | August 22, 2008 1:56 PM
_________________________________________

See ya! Wouldn't wanna be ya!

Posted by: Kim | August 22, 2008 1:58 PM

I am done with the Democratic Party if it's not Hillary.

Posted by: From Indiana. | August 22, 2008 1:56 PM

OBAMA HAS TEXTED HIS SUPPORTERS....It's John Kerry!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 1:56 PM

Now here is a ridiculous statement:

"IF HE DOES NOT CHOSE HILLARY CLINTON FOR VP, he will definitely lose the election in Nov."

He is running ahead in the polls without Hillary as VP, exactly how does he lose if he doesn't ad her. More fear tactics from the backstabbing "pick Hillary or else" crowd. Sorry, no one threatens there way onto the ticket.

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary for VP | August 22, 2008 1:54 PM

Kalford...I have to agree with you...I was thinking that it was John Kerry a while back. It's just that I really like Joe Biden and always have. But I was thinking that it was John Kerry about 1 1/2 months ago! In a way it would be great but then again, I am a little leery with that choice.

Posted by: Lucy | August 22, 2008 1:53 PM

Kaine's people are saying it's not him. I'm still going with Joseph ROBINETTE Biden, Jr.!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 1:47 PM


Very simple and clear: IF HE DOES NOT CHOSE HILLARY CLINTON FOR VP, he will definitely lose the election in Nov. Picking Hillary will make them FORMIDAbLE.......

Posted by: rajah kahn | August 22, 2008 1:45 PM

This is the only way Obama has been able to generate excitement and drama, since Clinton left the race. He's been the big, empty, speechifying bore, with McCain more feisty and interesting.

This is the most drama Obama can drum up, and it's all due to his being coy.

He could, of course, drum up drama and excitement with issues and substance. Oh, never mind. I forgot, He cant.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 22, 2008 1:44 PM

It's Tim Kaine

Posted by: Insider | August 22, 2008 1:41 PM

Obama continues to be a drama queen.

Posted by: Kathy | August 22, 2008 1:35 PM

...and the media in breathless anticipation awaits the puff of smoke from over the Vatican and word from the Messiah.

Posted by: menopausequeen | August 22, 2008 1:32 PM

I love having a big fat Dick Cheney reamed up my poop chute. Anybody know where Larry Craig or Ted Haggard are cruising these days?

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 1:28 PM

It's JFK !!

Think about it. There is no other logical choice. He got 59 million votes the last election. He is Catholic. He is a veteran with foreign policy credentials.

Also, his wife is from PA and is very popular in that important state. And Kerry gave Obama the opportunity to be a national figure with his speech at the 2004 Convention.

Also, Kerry wants to get even with the "Swift Boaters". He understands the historical significance of this race. John Kerry is the most logical choice.

Posted by: kralford | August 22, 2008 1:23 PM

Will the WaPo give anything close to this much coverage to McCain's VP selection? Of course not. He's not "The One".

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 1:21 PM

You gotta love the spin from the other side already on Biden...

too late people know that info...and they know it's false...or doesn't matter considering we want people who can get things through congress...

who speak their minds ...even if it isn't always pretty...

who actually know not only the differences between tribes and borders...

but actually knows the names of the people who lead the countries and tribes.

and we definitely want the guy who hauls his own stumps to the dump himself and the guy who paid his own way through college...

rather than the guy who can't remember how many homes or gardeners or staffs he has (because he has never SEEN a mortgage payment) , or the guy who divorced for money, or the guy who thinks acting the opposite of reagan (speak softly and carry a big stick is a lot different than whittle down and overextend your stick and scream threats at the opther side like Napoleon)

yeah Biden's good...really good.

@009 is looking better than 2001-2008 was that is for sure.

Posted by: dl | August 22, 2008 1:17 PM

Thin straws, Jake, thin straws.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 22, 2008 1:04 PM

David Brooks over at the NYT is an arse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/opinion/22brooks.html?ref=opinion

Why didn't he write this article 3 weeks ago? Clearly, he cares more about his party - and the continuation of it's corrupt governance - than he does about the national interest.

What a liar. He's *not* hoping it's Biden. If that's what he wanted, he would have influenced the process, not waited 'til the end and written this passive-aggressive endorsement.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 22, 2008 1:04 PM

My (and Andrea Mitchell's) guess is still Joe Biden, Mr. Credit Card, who made BK that much harder for the average working man. In September 1987, his Presidential campaign ran into serious trouble when he was accused of plagiarizing a speech by Neil Kinnock, then-leader of the British Labour Party. Though Biden had correctly credited the original author in all speeches but one, the one where he failed to make mention of the originator was, of course, the one caught on video. Within days, it was also discovered that, while at Syracuse Law School, Biden had plagiarized a law review article. Biden said the act was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F in the course. Biden also released at the same time the record of his grades as an undergraduate which were C's and D's with the exception of two A's in physical education, one B in a course on English writers and an F in ROTC during his first three semesters. His grades improved later in his undergraduate career but were not exceptional. Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85 -- forget all those jokes about McCain at the bottom of his Naval Academy class) that he had attended on a full scholarship, and had received three degrees. In fact he had received a single B.A. in history and political science and had not received a full scholarship.

Faced with these revelations, Biden withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987, saying his candidacy had been overrun by "the exaggerated shadow" of his mistakes. After Biden withdrew from the race it was learned that the Dukakis campaign had secretly made a video showcasing the Biden/Kinnock comparison and distributed it to news outlets. Dukakis fired John Sasso, his campaign manager and long-time Chief of Staff.

Posted by: JakeD | August 22, 2008 12:59 PM

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