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By Michael D. Shear
SEDONA, Ariz. -- Sen. John McCain immediately began using Joe Biden's own words against him early Saturday morning, drawing on the Democratic vice presidential nominee's criticism of Sen. Barack Obama during the Democratic primary.

"There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden," said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt. "Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be President."

Running against Obama for the presidency, Biden said nominating someone without national security credentials would be a "tragic mistake" and said that the presidency "is not something that lends itself to on-the-job-training."

The first volley from McCain's staff arrived at 1:50 a.m. ET, reflecting the new pace of presidential politics in the Internet era. And it foreshadowed what is certain to be a principal line of attack

Obama's selection of Biden, which began leaking out Friday evening, set in motion a new Republican effort aimed at undermining the Democratic ticket even as the pair prepare to make their first public appearance as running mates in Springfield, Ill.

McCain aides are also likely to go after Biden by arguing that he does not represent the fundamental change that Obama has been promising since beginning his presidential run.

Biden, a 36-year veteran of the U.S. Senate, is a creature of Capitol Hill, someone who is steeped in the nuances of the legislature and is part of an institution that regularly gets terrible approval ratings by Americans.

Obama has been running against Washington, saying that the people there like McCain are the problem that needs to be fixed. McCain can argue that by choosing Biden, Obama abandons that case.

But McCain has to be careful. He has served in the Senate alongside Biden for more than two decades, a fact that Democrats are certain to point out. And Biden's long experience with foreign policy issues is sure to blunt some of McCain's criticisms of Obama.

Biden and McCain are friends, part of the elite Senate club, and are likely to offer praise for each other even as the general election campaign gets underway after the conventions.

But that will not prevent McCain from aiming his fire at his colleague, starting with Biden's comments during the primary.

During one of the Democratic debates, Biden stood by comments about Obama that "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

In August, Biden was harshly critical of Obama's lack of experience, saying, "Having talking points on foreign policy doesn't get you there."

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A lot of hate/fear mongers have already made their closed minds up already. All they can do now is blog/flame to boards with ignorant rants that go beyond silly sarcasm. Our country is in the trenches and the moron over there wants to link Obama/Biden with Bin laden.

As a conservative, I think McCain has a place in Washington, he has done much as an Independent, I didn't mind him turning Republican, I'd hope he would represent what he used to stand for, but it was a disappointment to see that wasn't so. I cannot even recognize the republican party of today, because it has been taken over by right wing religious extremists, fearful klansfolk and their elk. John McCain feels he has to connect to these people and cater to the loyal Bushies who have surrounded his camp. No, he is not the one to lead this nation out of yolk of the declining middle-class. China and Germany are leading the way in goods and productivity. India is answering our techlines. Start up companies CEO's can't get health insurance for themselves much less their workers. Home owners and working couples need full health/dental benefits so they don't get swamped in medical bills.

Obama & Biden is the right choice at the right time.

Posted by: Nina | August 28, 2008 11:25 AM

Deciding for a black/minority candidate or not will be a thing of past in US when the fading white population become minority with third world immigration, mixing and below replacement natality ratios. see you in the memory-heaven of the good people.

Posted by: Brazil Snoop | August 25, 2008 8:33 AM

Just a sample of the utter brillance of this board:

"I'm way better off then I was 8 years ago."
-How did you get the gig at Blackwater?

"Anyone who votes for him is not an American who cares about our future."
-Voting is a right? right?

"The democraps have ruined this country in the last two years since they took over the house and senate."
-Do not even know where to begin.


Posted by: rick | August 24, 2008 7:14 PM

" Running against Obama for the presidency, Biden said nominating someone without national security credentials would be a "tragic mistake" and said that the presidency "is not something that lends itself to on-the-job-training." "

Obami's 143 days of actual senate experience is a sick joke. Anyone who votes for him is not an American who cares about our future.

OBAMA BIDEN = OSAMA BIN LADEN

Think about it!

Posted by: F. Meglin | August 24, 2008 4:06 PM

one more thing: this came from

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9111.html

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.

-Ya McCain is the great man of priciple, a strong leader, Please. He would sell his soul to get what he thinks was stolen from him in 2000.

Posted by: al | August 24, 2008 3:52 PM

Why is it that most who are in favor of McCain do nothing but attack Obama? Why is it we hear nothing about what McCain wants to do. Oh he wants to start drilling for oil and most of the folks think ya drill today lower prices tomorrow. Idiots. The fact is McCain has been as liberal as anyone on the left. He wants to grant amnesty to all who are here that do not belong, then he doesnt. He hates Bush's tax cuts, then loves them. He picks on the Biden choice and he will end up picking Romney a man he hates. He wonders why Hillary wasnt chosen but he will not pick his closest rival Huckabee.

Those who insist that Hillary was "the one" would be ranting now about what a mistake it was for Obama to pick her if he had. After eight years of Bush we have a staggering debt, a lousy economy, and a housing market in complete collapse. Great lets vote for a Bush third term. The leader of the 9/11 attacks is still free and we have no foreign policy that concerns itself with any other thing but Iraq. Mission Accomplished!

Posted by: al | August 24, 2008 3:36 PM

to Tom Manning-
Do you have to dry clean your sheets for the meetings or can you by them bulk at that big ol fancy store wal mart

Posted by: al | August 24, 2008 3:25 PM

All you need to know:
Democrats = Support the rights of Guantanamo terrorists. Support the rights of baby killers. Want to punish telecom companies for providing info vital to our protection. Blame America for everything.Will say anything to get elected. Abra cadabra - nominate the most thinly experienced candidate in the history of civilization - and then hope YOU are paying attention to the smooth rhetoric and don't notice the hammer and sickle on their lapels.

Posted by: Tom O | August 24, 2008 2:56 PM

I'm way better off then I was 8 years ago. If Obama gets in the working people will be screwed.

Posted by: Tracy | August 24, 2008 2:50 PM

"Canada Dave",Every Democrat that I know is grossly uninformed and votes based on their feel good beliefs rather than voting on the facts. I like the way you liberals use the word "seem" rather than checking the facts. Dems are the uninformed and uneducated not the GOP and you know it!Why are you so biased against the South? I ran into more racial hatred from northerners than southerners while in the military. I would vote for a conservative black like J. C. Watts in a heartbeat! You see, I don't give a damn what color a politician's skin is, only what his or her political philosophy is. It has been fun debating with you, don't get too depressed!

Posted by: Phil | August 24, 2008 2:48 PM

The democraps have ruined this country in the last two years since they took over the house and senate. Please explain this if you are a democrap.
Bush is the front man who gets the blame, when in reality, the rotton democraps have ruined this country. Anyone who denies this is brainwashed.

Posted by: Andy | August 24, 2008 2:35 PM

Ralpherus,

You are the typical american dumbdumb I was refering to.

My observation in this country so far:
most of the thoughtless dumbdumbs seem to vote republican.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted by: Canada Dave | August 24, 2008 1:47 PM

Phil, so... youre now saying it was the democrats that outed Valerie Plame?

The republicans have this funny thing they do... they repeatedly broadcast the opposite of a fact, until their legion of KKK southern dumbdumbs start beleiving it...

Phil you are probably the guy clutching his bible and gun while making jokes about assasinating Obama because he is black.

Posted by: Canada Dave | August 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Oh, good old Ralph. 45 posts, zero facts, and lots and lots of TYPING LIKE THIS!!!!!

Posted by: rick | August 24, 2008 1:28 PM

The entire electoral process is a dog and pony show called, "The Weebles(TM Reg.) of Mass Distraction." "Don't pay attention to the billionaires and the lobbyists behind the curtain. They just work here." It's an exercise in futility. It's a turd polishing contest. It's a choice between fresh brown turd or old white turd. It's a choice between horse manure and a cat litter box. WOW! THANKS! Horse manure doesn't smell so bad, sort of earthy, but there's so much of it! You need a shovel. A cat litter box really stinks but you can use a spatula to scoop it up. I really love this freedom of choice! Coke(TM Reg.) or Pepsi(TM Reg.)? McDonald's(TM Reg.) or Burger King(TM Reg.)? Hey Grandpa, thanks for losing that finger when you were fighting for all of this glorious democracy. Weebles(TM Reg.) wobble but they don't represent me!

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 24, 2008 1:01 PM

Biden? zzzzzzz.....

Posted by: mhr | August 24, 2008 12:58 PM

THUG & HAIR PLUG '08

Worse than DUKAKIS/BENSON

Posted by: Garland | August 24, 2008 12:32 PM

Sugarrosie is right- the economy began to tank after the dems (somehow) stole the election and got control of congress. here is why: they need a campaign issue. They lose on national defense, they lose on constitutional rights everyt time (2nd amendment!- self defense, and abortion), so they had to create- at the expense of the little people they love to pretend to care about (but do NOT). How: preventing us from getting oil anywhere, everywhere, we can find it. Then attacking "big oil" and I will tell you something- you never rode a bus drove a car or motorcycle, flew in a plane, that was powered because of ANYTHING a democrat or a moveon person provided!!! Big oil is big because WE ALL NEED AND USE IT. The taxes on a gallon of gas are like 5 times the profit margin the PROVIDERS of the gas make. The dems are cheap scum parasites!!!!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:31 PM

Obama suffers from FPDD - Foreign Policy Deficit Disorder.

I doubt if Caroline Kennedy had anything to do with the Biden selection. Joe was picked because he was the only one Obama knew who had any foreign policy experience and didn't have any skeletons in the closet.

It is unfortunate that Joe suffers from verbal diarrhea and foot-in-mouth disease.

Posted by: alance | August 24, 2008 12:09 PM

Hair Plugs, Teeth Whitening, Fake and Bake Tan, and Plagiarism. Never met a mirror he didn't like, and loves to hear himself even if his word are someone else's! Perfect match to Axelrod's & Soro's "Create a Candidate". Well at least he's "clean and articulate!"

Posted by: pauldia | August 24, 2008 11:51 AM

All of you are just hilarious! You crack me up! The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are both inherently corrupt. Why would anyone spend $500,000,000 to get a temporary job that pays $400,000 per year? Do the math. I know that these are big numbers and you don't have that many fingers and toes but try. O.K.? Feel better now? I do!

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 24, 2008 11:36 AM

“John was offered, and refused, "early release." Many of us were given this offer. It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to "admit" that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was "lenient and humane." So I, like numerous others, refused the offer. This was obviously something none of us could accept. Besides, we were bound by our service regulations, Geneva Conventions and loyalties to refuse early release until all the POW's were released, with the sick and wounded going first.”

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html

Posted by: Independent 2009 | August 24, 2008 11:27 AM

Did you see he picture of Obama & Biden kissing each other's wifes? There is nothing more disgusting for us to see than a black man kissing a white woman. America will never except them.

Posted by: Tom Manning | August 24, 2008 3:21 AM .............................................................-Yassuh' bossman! You sho' be right! Pickin' this cotton boss! Totin' that bale boss! I'm a' steppin' and a' fetchin' boss! Please don't beat me no mo' bossman! Ole Man River! He just keeps rollin' along! Shakin' dis' Bush boss! Shakin' dis Bush! Hey "Tom" don't you think that it's time for you to enter the 21st Century? Slavery was over long before you slithered out of your broken eggshell. Why are you so threatened by a black man kissing a white woman? Are you a small man who feels threatened by a black anaconda? Are you jealous because black men won't kiss you? Are you the star of, "Queer Eye for the Grand Wizard Guy?" By the way "Tom" it's "accept" not "except."

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 24, 2008 11:23 AM

Come on you left wing wimps! Can't I even get a weak response out of you?

Posted by: Phil | August 24, 2008 11:16 AM

If you want another President of "average intelligence" by all means vote for McCain. He was next to last in his graduating class at Annapolis. Are Americans as stupid today as they were in 2000 and 2004 in electing Bush? Probably. Look at the crap that is being used to smear Obama. Why doesn't McCain tell us how we can get medical insurance for the 70 million uninsured Americans? Dah!

Posted by: Martin hoffman | August 24, 2008 11:16 AM

If you want another President of "average intelligence" by all means vote for McCain. He was next to last in his graduating class at Annapolis. Are Americans as stupid today as they were in 2000 and 2004 in electing Bush? Probably. Look at the crap that is being used to smear Obama. Why doesn't McCain tell us how we can get medical insurance for the 70 million uninsured Americans? Dah!

Posted by: A not too bright President | August 24, 2008 11:14 AM

"Chrisferro", Bush flew the very unforgiving, supersonic F-102 fighter jet, while your man Kerry was commanding a little boat in Viet Nam, that a third grader could run. Kerry's main objective in Viet Nam was to make his war record look good, for his presidental run someday! President Bush had no such long term ambitions.Kerry was the one that turned his back and fled when the shooting started, then returned when it was safe!

Posted by: Phil | August 24, 2008 11:14 AM

"Canada Dave", Before you start criticizing us, do some research and get your facts straight. So Republicans are "vicious", why are you so blind to the cutthroat tactics used by the left? You think Canadians are more intelligent than us? What a joke! Your country is impotant at best!You are uninformed and a victim of liberal propaganda. The CIA "agent" was outed by Richard Armitage, a Clinton crony, not by a Republican. Get you facts straight before you start insulting the USA!

Posted by: Phil | August 24, 2008 11:01 AM

MICHELLE: Barack, I don't want you pick'n Hillary. That fool of a husband of hers will be chasing interns all over the White House while you are Presidenting.

BARACK: Ah, ah, ah, ahh, who you want Sweetie?

MICHELLE: You pick that white guy.... you know... the one with the hair plugs.

BARACK: But Sweetie, he is an old Washington Hack. He has never had a real job.

MICHELLE: Neither have you Barack.

Posted by: Garland | August 24, 2008 10:53 AM

To all you Bush haters out there. True, President Bush has made some mistakes, but he has not ruined our great country. His actions have spared us further attacks from Islamic terrorists and have freed millions from a ruthless dictator and an iron fisted government. Bush's main fault has been not responding to incessant attacks from the left, thereby encouraging even more false attacks. All this started in 2000 when Bush WON a close election that the DEMS tried their best to steal. From that moment on the barrage of false criticism has never stopped. Every supposed scandal has been concocted by lying, power hungry liberals who care only about their power and nothing about our great country. If you want proof, look at the pathetic excuse we have in our congress that is dominated by a liberal majority. Stop believing everything the left wing media has been pumping out and start using you God given brain to figure reality out for youself!

Posted by: Phil | August 24, 2008 10:44 AM

We did have a good economy for 6 years before the Dems took over the legislature 2 years ago. Now they "Congress" have a much lower approval rating than President Bush. People really don't hate Bush, they just want to win the war in Iraq and come home. All of a sudden, I am scared to death of the Democrates and what the election of Obama and a Democratic Congress can accomplish if they run the whole show.

Posted by: sugarosie | August 24, 2008 10:27 AM

it censored what I wrote: I said NO Bama after calling on god...

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 10:22 AM

The phony accusations made by the cheap scum dems for years would be true if obamabiden were inflicted upon this once-great nation...that is to say: the vice president will be the one running the show. And what an awful show it would be. GOD PLEASE

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 10:21 AM

Democrats seem to be in chaos and are very disorganized and unsure about what they stand for.

Republicans seem to be very vicious, and I think they would prefer a military takeover of the country to install a Republican military dictatorship.

The reality is that Americans are generally too dumb to elect good political leaders. I know you will be offended by this, but its sadly true. American people are usually ignorant,arrogant, uneducated people, which is why you get what you get in the white house.

You elect political parties that "out" your own CIA agents for gods sake... then you want to elect them again!!!!

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Posted by: Canada Dave | August 24, 2008 10:12 AM

We challenge Fox News to open up their comments section without censorship . They present a comments section but never show any comments!

Posted by: Ron | August 24, 2008 9:46 AM

As usual, the McCain campaign has nothing positive to say about itself.

Noun verb POW.

That's all they've got.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 24, 2008 9:40 AM

Amazing...the bottom of his class? Bush got an MBA at Yale...yeah, that is a diploma mill if you ever saw one...you guys are a amazing. John Kerry...your "Beacon" for 2004 had an even lower GPA than Bush...

Posted by: B.L. Biddle | August 24, 2008 3:04 AM

"It is noteworthy, however, that Kerry received a high honor at Yale despite his mediocre grades: He was chosen to deliver his senior class oration, a testament to his reputation as a public speaker. He delivered a speech questioning the wisdom of the Vietnam War, in which he would soon see combat.

Kerry gradually improved his grades, averaging 81 in his senior year. His highest single grade was an 89, for a political science class in his senior year. Despite his slow start, he went on to be a top student at Naval Candidate School, command a patrol boat in Vietnam, graduate from law school, and become a prosecutor, lieutenant governor, US senator, and presidential candidate."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/

I hope you notice that part about being a top student at Naval Candidate School and actually SERVING IN VIETNAM. Unlike bush who neither completed his training or served.


Posted by: pigboy | August 24, 2008 9:34 AM

McCain is NOT Bush. McCain has been fighting Bush since day 1. The Crusader Missile system, stem cell research, Iraq War strategy, Guantanamo Bay, waterboarding, Boeing tanker deal, environmental policies, Donald Rumsfeld, tax cuts without spending cuts, the list goes on and on. Look at the history. Don't let the Democrats paint McCain as the same as Bush. It's a smart strategy and it's working for them, but it's a lie and they know it.

Posted by: chrisferro | August 24, 2008 9:04 AM

I meant Caroline Kennedy not Carolyn, sorry. No intentions. Just a mistake.

Posted by: Ellen Hilburn | August 24, 2008 7:54 AM

I like Joe Biden and feel Carolyn Kennedy make a great choice. I don't care that he's a plagiarist. He's a good man who has served his country well. An aside, however, and maybe it seems odd only to me (and I draw no mean to it at all, don't get me wrong) but looking at Obama Biden it just looks an awful lot like Osama Bin Laden.

Posted by: Ellen Hilburn | August 24, 2008 7:53 AM

I once told Joe Binden that I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher, nothing has changed. If it wasn't for the dimwits in New Castle County De, that nut would never be elected to office. Obama has just doomed himself. I can't count the number of people how have told me that because of Binden they will be voting for McCain. What a joke for a VP pick

Posted by: Jim from Delaware | August 24, 2008 7:38 AM

Obama is Toast! He should have picked Hillary. He would have won for sure! With the Biden pick, he is sure to lose. McCain can pick the janitor at the whitehouse and will still win. What a laugh!!! Obama, where are your brains?! I know Dems who can't stand Biden and his uncontrollable mouth.

Posted by: John | August 24, 2008 7:18 AM

Chuck you fringe voter you. I wont flip the coin till I'm the votin booth.

Posted by: grimm | August 24, 2008 3:52 AM

I worked for McCain during the 2000 election. After the "Bob Jones Smear" incident that was perpetrated by the always delightful weasel,Karl Rove,McCain just backed down and did NOTHING to fight back! He shoulda have called out W. Bush,Rove and the whole Hee Haw gang. He did nothing. Rolled over and played dead.Absolutely spineless move by the (now) old man. Did not have the guts to stand up to that world class dullard and his henchmen.But he's the one that's gonna save us from these big,bad terrorists and their invading armies at our doorstep??? (I mean,people actually believe this garbage) "Culture of fear" is a big selling point for one party. The McCain you see before you presently is just an old shell of a once "possibly" great leader. Horrible President material now,though...

Posted by: frank_booth | August 24, 2008 3:47 AM

Anyone that posts on this blog has already made up their mind who they are voting for. If your opinion is this strong either way, you are a fringe voter and YOU don't matter.

Posted by: Chuck | August 24, 2008 3:43 AM

Did you see he picture of Obama & Biden kissing each other's wifes? There is nothing more disgusting for us to see than a black man kissing a white woman. America will never except them.

Posted by: Tom Manning | August 24, 2008 3:21 AM

This IS the truth.

1. Had Obama picked Hillary he would have won.

2. Hillary would have been the next President.

Read between the lines on #2 LOL.

Posted by: Wisdom | August 24, 2008 3:15 AM

Amazing...the bottom of his class? Bush got an MBA at Yale...yeah, that is a diploma mill if you ever saw one...you guys are a amazing. John Kerry...your "Beacon" for 2004 had an even lower GPA than Bush...and Kerry picked Edwards as a running mate...now, that is Genius!

I love the cannabalism within the Democratic party...just can't help themselves...it is just a hoot that you Hillary supporters actually thought you would break the "glass ceiling"...especially when it was about to get "tinted"...you are victims of your own fanatasies, cruelty and selfishness...

Contiue on and let the real adults continue to lead.

Posted by: B.L. Biddle | August 24, 2008 3:04 AM

Amazing...the bottom of his class? Bush got an MBA at Yale...yeah, that is a diploma mill if you ever saw one...you guys are a amazing. John Kerry...your "Beacon" for 2004 had an even lower GPA than Bush...and Kerry picked Edwards as a running mate...now, that is Genius!

I love the cannabalism within the Democratic party...just can't help themselves...it is just a hoot that you Hillary supporters actually thought you would break the "glass ceiling"...especially when it was about to get "tinted"...you are victims of your own fanatasies, cruelty and selfishness...

Contiue on and let the real adults continue to lead.

Posted by: B.L. Biddle | August 24, 2008 3:04 AM

Eightyearsoffear I think your fooling yourself.
Obama is just another politician . McCain is not Bush. Even though the Dems told you otherwise. Yes, I am doing better than I was eight years ago. Bill Gate was a college drop out.

Posted by: trident | August 24, 2008 3:00 AM

I just cant belive that the same people who where fooled and voted for Bush twice could be fooled again and are now voting for Mc Cain. Have you not seen the damage that your president Bush has done? Can you not see how intelligence relates to making good decisions? Do you not know that both Bush and Mc cain finished in the bottom of their college class. Do you not understand that dumb is as dumb does. Do you really think you live better today than you did 8 years ago? We must learn from our past are be damn to watch it be repeated over and over again.


Come on people wake the hell up!

Posted by: 8yearsoffear | August 24, 2008 2:37 AM

I just cant belive that the same people who where fooled and voted for Bush twice could be fooled again and are now voting for Mc Cain. Have you not seen the damage that your president Bush has done? Can you not see how intelligence relates to making good decisions? Do you not know that both Bush and Mc cain finished in the bottom of their college class. Do you not understand that dumb is as dumb does. Do you really think you live better today than you did 8 years ago? We must learn from our past are be damn to watch it be repeated over and over again.


Come on people wake the hell up!

Posted by: 8yearsoffear | August 24, 2008 2:30 AM

I enjoy the irony of PC libs that call black holes and blacktop roads racist, then freely call McCain "McSenile" . Feels good to hate,eh? Embrace the hate.

Posted by: ecrurefuse | August 24, 2008 2:30 AM

Tony,did you read what you wrote? In case you didn't here's what you said:

"If anyone read the article, they would know that George Obama doesn't want his brothers money or help. It is harder to give someone money who doesn't want it than you think. He also said he likes his life and dedicates a lot of his time to helping his community (it must run in the family). I'm sure that Barrack has asked him if he wanted to come to America and/or would accept some financial help and he turned it down. To assume that Barrack has done nothing in an effort to help his Brother is exactly that, an assumption, and it is not our place to sit in judgement of Barrack Obama based solely on that assumption."

All this "change" talk can be fun for you, but when you said "I'm sure Barrack has asked", how do you know? Isn't that an assumption in and of itself? Yet you are telling us we shouldn't assume? Barrack saw him for 15 minutes, how the hell is the guy supposed to ask for help? He could barely get hello out.

Typical Dem, do as I say, not as I do. Just ask John Edwards how that goes.

Posted by: Matt | August 24, 2008 2:04 AM

"NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, has the requisite foreign policy experience to be President, hence, anyone with common sense, excellent judgment, and a love for the USA can do the job."

Guess that rules out Obama

Posted by: notaliberal | August 24, 2008 1:49 AM

PauvrePapillon's question reminds me of my favorite definitions of a liberal.

Liberal: Someone who is compassionate with other peoples money.

I'm sure some of the increase in foreign aid that Obama has proposed will work it's way down to his brother.

Posted by: notaliberal | August 24, 2008 1:16 AM

If anyone read the article, they would know that George Obama doesn't want his brothers money or help. It is harder to give someone money who doesn't want it than you think. He also said he likes his life and dedicates a lot of his time to helping his community (it must run in the family). I'm sure that Barrack has asked him if he wanted to come to America and/or would accept some financial help and he turned it down. To assume that Barrack has done nothing in an effort to help his Brother is exactly that, an assumption, and it is not our place to sit in judgement of Barrack Obama based solely on that assumption.

Posted by: Tony | August 24, 2008 1:07 AM

Yes,
Its true that Obama wants to raise taxes. He wants to raise taxes so that we can start paying off the incredible debt that has been incurred by this nation over the past 8 years. If we don't pay for the mistakes we made now, then our children and our grandchildren will have to pay for it. It may seem like a steep price to pay, but when you take out 4 trillion in loans from other countries, you have to be aware that at some point those loans must be paid back. Voting for Obama is recognition of the situation we have put ourselves in and paying taxes is a way of securing a better future for those we intend to leave behind. Additionally, if you look at the figures carefully, the smallest and richest portion of the population is the one that will be paying the most money, so if you you don't belong in the top 5 percent of the nations wealthiest, you have little to worry about. If you do belong to that group, stop worrying about all your money and get yourself some sound financial advice from a professional who will help you avoid many of the negative effects of having to pay more taxes, you can afford it.

Posted by: Jim | August 24, 2008 12:58 AM

Just how does Barack Hussein Obama expect to get anyone to take him seriously on his ticket of change, when he just picked a man so entrenched in the establishment of Washington politics, he couldn't expect to see straight because he has had his head screwed on backwards for so many years, he' just used to getting taken advantage of occasionally he expects it as part of the job.
I work in an avenue of government most Americans are ignorant of the very existence of people like me. Most of us in my group marvel at the fact it doesn't look pretty with either side of the spectrum for who we'd like to be our next president. By the way, we don't vote. To do so would be exposure we can't afford. All I can do is voice my opinions and hope the American Public are not all ignoramuses.
My suggestions, Liberals, read PauvrePapillon's post and if you can answer his questions in a direct fashion, please enlighten us.
Also, read carefully, if you look at the tax statistics, which are easily verified. If you still are a devoted Obama supporter, let me know why you still believe Obama is the best hope for what he claims he will initiate, his brand of change.

Posted by: Felipe | August 24, 2008 12:58 AM

but apparently anon, too angry to explain what about. hahaha poor pitiful peasant parasitical brainwashed nothing of a man. Freedom requires a mind to keep. And you cannot refute what I said with fact. I will look tomorrow to see if you tried to. hahahaha feeble, really feeble...

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:56 AM

Dear Average Joe,

I remember the days of Jimmy Carter, too, but not with fondness. I remember that he gave away our interest and control over the Panama Canal. I remember that he allowed Americans to languish in captivity for years in Iran. I remember that our economy was in a slump until the mid 1980's. As soon as I turned 18, I voted for Ronald Reagan. He was right to champion freedom and the fall of communism. We must continue to wage this fight from what we are seeing with Russia and Georgia. We must be ever vigilant and vote for John McCain who will continue to champion our freedom.

Posted by: Johnny | August 24, 2008 12:55 AM

The Triple Post to YourSelf on a weekend. Best comments ever written. I LOVE CAPITAL LETTERS. IT SHOW I AM ANGRY.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:53 AM

the scaremongers- the real scaremongers- trying to fool folks with the scam thief global warming/ok no climate change- and blaming it on us- think it through folks. The problem is too many people and they want to be able to choose who gets the incinerator! They Are EVIL!!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:47 AM

People who cannot make sense of a single-sentence long right need to not be taken seriously either-(I refer to the second amendment and the confusionist pigs)...typographical errors writing quickly are not the same as mis-spelling anon, you would know if you had encephalatic tissue. Anyway, back to topic- when they rape the 2nd amendment, they prove themselves to be unworthy of getting a chance to rape the entirety of the constitution!! Dis-elect democrats fellow Americans!! Not ONCE have we had them out of some form of obstrucitonist position to destroy our freedom for 60 years... getting them all the way out of governement- to get rid of the marxists would be the real CHANGE we need. try it, I promise you will be happy we did!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:45 AM

remember 9/11- the dems and the media were all upset that the attack happened with an American in the white house- they were mire upset that it would "help bush" than that it happened at all. Crazy evil powetripping megalomaniacs!! hey, the border is STILL OPEN. No actual viable immigration reform has taken place- they logjam it because they want laws that destroy our freedom not logical patriotic laws. THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF FREEDOM. Recall schumer on 9/12/01 "this shows we need more gun control" he said....translation for non-encephalants: 19 foreigners with knives murdered 3,000 Americans, now therefor we need to disarm the Americans. TRAITOR PIG!!!!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:40 AM

All the people who misspell words on here during their arguments/political arguments should not be taken seriously. Learn how to spell correctly if you want to be taken seriously through words. I am referring mostly to the exceptionally ignorant first posting. God bless.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:38 AM

When John McCain first set foot on US soil after his release from the horrific Vietnamese prison, he turned and crisply saluted the American flag.
Like him or not, that's character. That's leadership. Presidential-caliber leadership.
Compare that to H. Obama. Biden.Kerry; and any other socialist dem.
Case closed.

Posted by: Mark | August 24, 2008 12:36 AM

did the murder pig of chappaquiddick serve time? But republicans (folks registered as such, but if crim, not really repub) who break the law get prosecuted... did barney frank do time? So many shenanigans the dems overlook for eachother- byrd's go along to get along routine... Disarming americans results in murder- it is NOT a way to upset criminals!! ONLY MORONS WOULD THINK SO. Cheap vile slime the dems are. Look what they have done to gaas prices by preventing local harvsting of oil. They blame "big oil" for the prices- and fools fall for it- mass hysterical hypnosis or something... the dems cause so much harm, then pretend to be the answer, and get power, and cause more problems!! EVIL VERMIN!!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:35 AM

rick- what is the diffference between the democrat party and alqaeda? The dems are ALL HERE. Who helps the enemy in war time? Dems. Who wants to let criminals out of prison and to give criminals the vote? Democrats. Who wants to keep it so the money WE EARN is not ours to leave as legacy to our heirs? Dems- social security can be privatized and kept better funded, and we leave alegacy- but hte cheap scum thief dems prevented it. Why has no progress been made for the betterment of freedom? The dems prevent it- they hate us being free- they want to RULE. It would be worse than under clinton sending atf around to murder poeple- it will get like mugabe's rape of zimbabwe if we elect the murder pigs!!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:30 AM

Your are not gonna drag me into your Hannity GED argument. Please. Read a newspaper. Maybe do some research on Rumsfeld/Rice lies. Maybe even go to a library. But, for the love of God, your statement is the worst I have ever read on the internet.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:28 AM

rick- do youknow who has caused/allowed the most murders of Americans? Democrats! Wake up you moron. Noting hateful- just angry about murder pigs...

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:23 AM

"How is 36 years of being a cheap scum democrat traitor, causing murders of americans NEW? or CHANGE???"

George Bush II would like a word with you.

This board is really big on idiot hate speech.

Posted by: rick | August 24, 2008 12:21 AM

'justthefacts' doesn't have his/her facts right. Check any "fact check" site like politifact.com and you'll see how affordable Obama is.

Posted by: thefacts | August 24, 2008 12:17 AM

Biden is a fantastic choice for VP if Obama's not interested in winning the White House. What a quality decision: adding a 30+ year senator? Where's the change? Obama is just a self-loving pol like everyone he's run against. I love it!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:15 AM

People! Do you want to be fooled by moveon.org a bunch of marxist anti-freedomite lying vermin who get their money in europe? What have they ever DONE? Have they invented a product that serves the people? Do they provide a service that folks want? They are simply propagandists trying to get large numbers of americans to detest our own government, and replace it with marxist garbage like obama and biden. How is 36 years of being a cheap scum democrat traitor, causing murders of americans NEW? or CHANGE??? Wake up people, use your brains! Gas is high because the dems want us to be broke! They hate freedom and your being free is freedom!!! Gun control is murder!! If you cannot defend yourself you are only free to be murdered! THAT IS WHAT DEMS WANT FOR US!!! WAKE UP!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 24, 2008 12:14 AM

What state is Romney from? Michigan? Mass? Utah?

His foriegn policy experience is what? Nothing, OK.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:14 AM

Biden ran for Prez and quickly lost.
If he wasn't acceptable then, what would make him acceptable NOW?
The only vote I'll be casting this year is one of "no confidence". That goes for McMaim also...
(It's bad when you remember the days of Jimmy Carter with fondness.)

Posted by: Average Joe | August 24, 2008 12:04 AM

There are very few angry Hillary supporters posting here. They are repugs acting like they are democrats to keep the in-fighting going. Democrats are very emotional and respond to comments. Many repugs have no souls so this is fun to them.

Posted by: allec | August 23, 2008 11:55 PM

When I think of Joe Biden, I think of that historic day that William Jefferson Clinton was kept from being removed from office by just a few votes. He was standing behind his man, Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton has lied to the American people. David Bonior was in that same group. He stood behind Bill Clinton, too, just as he stood behind John Edwards. John Edwards lied to the American people. Joe Biden runs his mouth so much he can't keep track of all of his lies. If you thought as I do that Bill Clinton should have been removed from office then, don't vote for his friends now.

Posted by: Johnny | August 23, 2008 11:08 PM

The people who call FOX News conservative forget that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC are all liberal and in the tank for Obama.

Obama had to pick Biden because of his own lack of gravitas.

Does anybody really believe that a senator with approx 30 years experience is going to take orders from a senate rookie ?

Obama gives wonderful speeches..the only problem is word for word Gov. Deval Patrick of Massachusetts already gave them a year ago.

Posted by: Shawn | August 23, 2008 11:05 PM

Change? I changed my mind today. I don't like it, but Obama is nothing more than another guy who wants to be king of the hill. I regret it took this boneheaded move to show me the light. What an assinine selection for a running mate.

Posted by: gumby | August 23, 2008 10:58 PM

Wee not spelll goud, but wee knoe sum stuf yu dont. Yewl lern.

Posted by: michael | August 23, 2008 10:49 PM

Hey Al, buy a map or an encyclopedia...New York is not a New England state. There are 6...and N.Y. isn't one of them.

Posted by: michael | August 23, 2008 10:41 PM

Let the three ring circus begin!

Few people consider the art of debating and how sparing hopefuls manage or manipulate the public to see things their way.

Americans should read and listen to all reports on the respective candidates.

Why is the Presidential race so important?
Several reasons of course... The United States is a power in many respects. And that power is weilded by the President.

The wrong decision at a critical juncture would bring consequences that cannot be easily repaired. What's worse than the present we endure? A future we cannot see.

I am attempting to be unbiased in my opinion on the candidates... based on experience John McCain is the best option.

He is vested in his country and put his life on the line to protect it. Where was Joe Biden during Vietnam? Did Barock OBama
serve in the US Military?

Personally I've visited 25 foreign nations and the US is viewed in disdain by some, and extreme respect by others.

A bigger view is needed to adequately choose the right man for the job. How many of you have traveled the world and actually seen what the other half lives like?

Until then get an education. Would you want a plumber do open heart surgery on you? One would hope not!

McCain for President!

God bless America.

Dan Goldthrite Sr.
Rochester NY USA

Posted by: Dan Goldthrite Sr. | August 23, 2008 10:35 PM

So this is Obama meant by "change" and "Washington Insider?"

Posted by: Chris | August 23, 2008 10:31 PM

I hope McCain picks Romney. I can't wait for Mitt to explain his magic underwear to the evangelicals.

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 23, 2008 10:03 PM

Hey ralpherus, do republicans own computers with spell check?

Posted by: al | August 23, 2008 10:02 PM

Forget misused terms, and descriptors that have morphed over time, and deliberately obfuscated meanings.... the dems are the party that cannot figure out the single sentence of the second amendment- and they disarm innocent people, facilitating their murders!! Screw that garbage! (to put it politely!) We cannot expect to still have freedom in four years, and elect this year any mroe democrat TRAITORS than we already are aflicted with!

Posted by: ralpherus | August 23, 2008 9:50 PM

I can't afford Obama, can you?

From Wachovia VP Robert Jenkins:
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:


CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 4 0% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750


Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them tothese taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!
Thank You Robert D. Jenkins
Vice President - Investments
Chartered Retirement Planning Counselor
Wachovia Securities, LLC
314-991-7812
800-999-4448 toll-free
robert.jenkins@wachoviasec.com
www.home.wachoviasecurities.com/robert.jenkins

Posted by: justthefacts | August 23, 2008 9:50 PM

Oh boy! Looks like the retards from Drudge Report showed up...

Posted by: beedogs | August 23, 2008 9:43 PM

Admittedly,Barack Obama may be short on experience, particularly in foreign affairs. But a President doesn't have to be an expert on all things as long as he appoints people who are knowledgable in their respective fields. That is where George W Bush falls short. His appointees are picked largely on the basis of their loyalty to the President rather than their expertise in their given fields. Also, while Obama's youth and inexperience might lead to some mistakes, he seems flexible enough to learn from them, unlike Presiednt Bush who stubbornly clings to failed policies.

Posted by: Don K Johnson | August 23, 2008 9:39 PM

Just a couple of thoughts after reading all these comments:

- Stop bashing Fox News: It's a good channel, albeit with a conservative lean. That doesn't mean 'Republican' -- conservative, liberal, Democrat and Republican are 4 very different words.

- As far as murderous Christians: Some would argue that the Crusades were simply a response to Muslims slaughters of Christians, but then some Crusaders turned it from a defense mission to profiteering.

- In that line of thought, Sunnis and Shiites were killing each other LONG before the U.S. went anywhere near Iraq. Saddam killed thousands of fellow Muslims because they were of a different sect. That's what radical Muslims do -- kill people. If there's no one but other Muslims around, then they kill other Muslims.

- READ A FRIGGING BOOK SOMETIME: More than half of the comments here are stupid, uninformed rhetoric from their respective camps. Stop it. Read books, the library is full of them, and pay attention to who wrote them so you can get a balanced load. Watching TV and listening to biased hacks on the radio is no substitute for reading history books and simply recognzing patterns and facts. Cripes, what scares me more than anything is that some of you dunderheads are allowed near a voting machine.

Posted by: Al | August 23, 2008 9:37 PM

NADER - makes more sense every day !!!

Posted by: BASKER | August 23, 2008 9:34 PM

People and citizens,
Do we really need a government this big?
The very fact that everybody is devoting so much time to the race between two candidates most people wouldn't trust to walk their dog shows us this system is totally out of control. Viva term limits, low taxes and decentralizes control.
Down with professional politicians/freeloaders.

Have a good life.

Posted by: John W. Hyne | August 23, 2008 9:17 PM

Liberals. I hear this label liberal thrown around. But has anysone stoppped to think that liberal has come to mean big government and big deficits. And what do we have to thank this current governemnt for? The biggest expansion of governemnt and record deficits. Now really, that is liberal. So perhaps all these co called conservbatives who support the Republican party are not what they really claim to be, but are in fact closet liberals!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:09 PM

Ever notice that the liberals on these boards spend most of their time name calling everybody else but very little time offering anything of substance? Maybe you should spend some extra time actually learning the platform of your candidate,maybe educating yourself about the failures of socialism (i.e. look at a 20th century world history book), or perhaps asking yourself the question 'when was the last time that a politician didn't say he/she is going to bring change?' I assure you it will be more worth while than coming up with slant rhymes or unfounded slogans. Just a thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 7:54 PM

"So much for B Hussein O's campaign of change. He picks the ONE person that is a member of the source of the problem. "Yes we can" turned into "OMFG, WTH!""

Do people address you with your first and middle names, no last name. Sounds communist to me. Put your pants on and leave your mom's basement.

Posted by: rick | August 23, 2008 7:44 PM

Now we have Dumb & Dumber

Posted by: Blastus | August 23, 2008 7:37 PM

To "Anonymous" and others
WOW Buddy! What history books and dictionary have you been using! The Boston Tea Party ALONE disproves US was founded upon liberalism-OPPOSITION OF TAXATION!

Look, I'm not without compassion to others who need help. But, what this duo represents, is anything but healthy.

So much for B Hussein O's campaign of change. He picks the ONE person that is a member of the source of the problem. "Yes we can" turned into "OMFG, WTH!"

Posted by: Erik M | August 23, 2008 7:26 PM

It is absolutely amazing the depth of the stupidity contained in about 95% of these comments..

From people completely wrong, to people that obviously have their opinion given to them by Fox News.

I dont hate America, but I sure do hate the seemingly large amount of near brain-dead stupid people in it.

We obviously come from opposite sides of the fence but I will agree with you about the large number of really uninformed people in the country. But then we have our "excellent" school teacher's union to thank for that.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 7:13 PM

It is absolutely amazing the depth of the stupidity contained in about 95% of these comments..

From people completely wrong, to people that obviously have their opinion given to them by Fox News.

I dont hate America, but I sure do hate the seemingly large amount of near brain-dead stupid people in it.

Posted by: wow | August 23, 2008 7:06 PM

It has been over 4 hours since the plea was made for some honest intellectual debate on the issue of liberalism. But not a single liberal has stepped up to the plate and offered a vaild reason why success should pay a heavier tax. Why it is the governments responsibility and not the individual to care for themselves.

The reason why no one has stepped forward is that there is NO valid reason. Does the first place winner in the Olympics get penalized for being the best with a bronze medal? Does the third place finisher get the gold medal. In any sports event do we give the loser the game ball and send them to the finals? (Some PC schools have tried but the kids aways know who won and who lost.)

It is only the liberal democrats that hold primaries where the winner does not get the full slate of delegates.

I once had a long conversation with my brother's sister-in-law who is a screaming liberal about the issues of why since they are quite rich they do not take care of the poor but expect the government to do it instead. After much stressful thought she could not come up with an answer other than it felt right that the government should do it. Confirmed my observations that liberals operate on feelings and not logic. Dangerous when given the reins of power.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 7:02 PM

Silly Liberals!

Posted by: Tammy | August 23, 2008 6:45 PM

Raise your hand if you will vote different as the result of this drivel?

Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: rick | August 23, 2008 6:43 PM

McCain's pick for VP, if nothing else will have to have a degree in geriatrics. He'll also have to be able to point out all the fire exits when they enter a building. Have a rock ready to place in Big John's right hand, so he'll know which way to turn...if someone tell's Big John, the restroom is on your right!

Posted by: Jeronimo Dan | August 23, 2008 6:43 PM

Anonymous:
You really should do your homework!!
You are a Communist and you can go ahead and admit it. Obama is a Flaming Communist as well. Rev. Wright's Church is not a Christian Church. Any Church that condones the killing of Babies is not teaching anything Christian.

Posted by: Carole1 | August 23, 2008 6:28 PM

The attacks ads are coming from both sides.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_mccains_remarks.html

What I would like to know is if the UCMC and Blackwater Consulting benefited from their relationship with Obama. See the Washington Post's article.

It would be interesting if Hilary does a hail Mary play right before the vote and comes up with a doozy of a scandal which would have the DNC vote for her.

Posted by: Jas | August 23, 2008 6:08 PM

Back in the days, during the Crusades, massive numbers of us Christians travelled thousands of miles just to kill muslims, what about that ?

................................
Christians aren't the ones blowing themselves up in crowded markets killing women and children. militant islam is a problem, whether you like it or not. complacency will not solve it.

this militant islam is much more widespread than militant "christianism". people that spew hate filled speach are not Christians (there is a difference between disagreeing with something and hating someone). i never heard of Billy Graham taking someone prisoner and cutting their head off in the name of God.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 6:04 PM

A great VP pick!

...with the McCain campaign's use of primary Biden v. Obama rhetoric, we now know Gov. Romney is 100% not the 'ole Maverick's choice. McCain would not be so dumb as to use this childish line of political banter - and then turn around and tap the very person he engaged in nasty primary rhetoric against, would he?

We need a POTUS and V-POTUS who will fight for the working class and look towards the future - not the past like Johnny Boy McCain! Memo: the V'Naaham and Cold War are over, my friend. Time to move on...

OBAMA '08!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:46 PM

Well then that majority (whether or not you're in it) should stop being so simple-minded.

Always the same old attacks "he's an ex-muslim" etc...

For Christ's sake, he was just a kid back then, he didn't make his own decision.
And when he had a choice, he chose Christianism. That "majority" should be happy !
I can't believe I'm even arguing about this. Do people really think being a muslim, or ex, is such a dangerous thing ?

Back in the days, during the Crusades, massive numbers of us Christians travelled thousands of miles just to kill muslims, what about that ? What's that compared to the handful of c..k suckers who crashed in the Twins huh ?

There's a serious issue in our country. We are way too afraid of others and never reconsider. There's a reason more and more people are hating us throughout the globe, simply because our behavior is unacceptable.
We should just learn from that and re-think our way of judgement, and stop being so stubborn.

Because of our intervention in Iraq, Shia's and Sunni's are killing each other: it's a fact, civil war struck Iraq and spread to the neighboring countries. Just look at Pakistan...
All this is just as stupid as Catholics and Protestants killing each other 400 years ago.

We're no better than they are, they're just making the same mistakes as we did did a long time ago.

Posted by: Narcotek | August 23, 2008 5:40 PM

lib·er·ty
1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.

the definition of liberty goes against many "policies" that BHO openly supports (at least when he isn't flip-flopping).
this includes trying to "control" a person's money, "restrict" firearms, "interfere" in free commerce, or "hamper" an unborn child's RIGHT to live and call it "choice".

therefore, the equating of liberalism and liberty seem to be at ends with each other. an oxymoron of the grandest scale.

i am a conservative, but i do not think that Bush has given us liberty either. we charged him with protecting us after 9/11 and GAVE him the power to ensure our safety. we did this to ourselves. if we really want "liberty" then we need two different candidates. remember, liberty doesn't give you safety.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:39 PM

McCain is going to pick Romney who will make Biden look like mr excitement. Wait till OBama's ads start using what Romney said aganist him. Please, Biden is an experienced Senator who is a solid pick.

Also why do all the idiots who call obama an ex-muslim never post a name....

http://thoughtfromboston.blogspot.com/

Posted by: al | August 23, 2008 5:37 PM

narcotek- the war is not only in Iraq and afghanistan. It is in somalia, in lebanon in phillipines in bali in china, in russia, in europe. The stone aged fanatical murder cult wants to take over the entire planet. When will you lesser encephalants get it through your tiny empty craniums?

Posted by: ralpherus | August 23, 2008 5:37 PM

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Posted by: Independent | August 23, 2008 5:35 PM

Attention Socialists and Big-Government Spenders: There is NO "extra money". We are in debt up to our ears. No amount of taxes or social programs will get us out of that hole.

We need a POTUS who will use the veto power to hold the line on spending. Perhaps McCain is the man for the job. We already know Obama plans to increase taxes so he can increase government spending.

Posted by: Kent | August 23, 2008 5:29 PM

I had such hope for this man Obama. For me the judgement issue has just been magnified.

With reservations, I will now hold my nose and vote McCain.

Posted by: tia | August 23, 2008 5:28 PM

I meant to say "the majority of people in this country are not ready for an ex-muslim President with a Biden attached."
If you don't believe it to be true, take your own poll-or wait for the election.

Posted by: viejo1 | August 23, 2008 5:22 PM

"This country is not ready for an ex-muslim President with a Biden attached."

Wow viejo, you're officially the stupidest person here...

Thank god all muslims aren't as stupid as you.
I apologize to them for what you said.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:17 PM

It's obvious, whether one wants to acknowledge the truth or deny it, that all McCain has to do now is pick a pro-Lifer and survive until the inauguration.
Conseratives will vote in greater numbers (percentile) than at any other time in history, not for our guy, but against the liberal candidates.
This country is not ready for an ex-muslim President with a Biden attached.

Posted by: viejo1 | August 23, 2008 5:13 PM

Lance, there's something relly important to point here.

America wasn't founded on capitalism, or socialism.

It was founded over liberalism. The liberty to pray who you wanna pray to, buy what you wanna buy, say what you wanna say, etc...
You know, Democracy.

Now Socialism nowadays is NOTHING like Socialism in, say, USSR.
Look at Germany for instance: a Liberal (therefore capitalist), Social-Democratic country, wich is doing pretty fine, with, of course, it's own issues, but who has none ? They're not in economic recess, they don't have a huge debt like the U.S.

Sure Obama is a Socialist , so am I , but the both of us are far from being idiot communists. We just like to use the extra money to help people, to help development.
And that doesn't mean we're not capitalists: I like to save my money too, I like to invest, last I heard these things make me a capitalist.

Just forget the names, think of what's right, and useful.


Oh and by the way, you're welcome :p

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:09 PM

Obama didn't pick Biden because he wanted to, he did it because Chicago told him to.
Since Chicago liberals are inherently ignorant, the wrong VP was picked. The right VP is all that could have stopped B.O.'s slide, so...as long as McCain picks a pro-lifer, we will slay the Democrats in the booths.
Trus' me on dis one.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 5:05 PM

It is just funny that people are willing to vote for someone who in his own party has LOST to GEORGE W BUSH... I think if you lose to George Bush you should never be seen or heard from ever again...

Since he won the nomination, all he is doing is negative ads, in my opinion, McCain has NOTHING to show for, that is why he is attacking constantly. If he wants my vote, he better show me what he has accomplished and not just say what i want to hear in the form of sound bites, he also better stop saying My Friends... There is not friendship here, you get the vote if you deserve it and so far he doesn't...

As for the VP Pick, I personally do not see anything wrong on picking someone who can make your side stronger and ads value to your team. I can see that Obama is trying to rebound after showing that he has no strategy beyond the primaries. He better realize that it is not going to be handed to him on any plate of any kind.

It is really sad that we have two rediculous choices, ohh sorry there is a more rediculous fellow by the name Nader, who comes out once every 4 years and looks prety much the same (we should check if he is a real human and not a robot or a Holywood character) that makes them 3 choices and the three suck. I have to admit though McCain sucks the most especially when I see his picture trying to hug George Bush and Bush is not paying him any attention (like saying get off me you brown noser freak)...

GOD only knows what the next 4 years will bring, I hope to find something to be optemistic about.

Posted by: Moshe | August 23, 2008 5:04 PM

"And gimme a break... I know it's a lotta fun, but please stop calling Dems marxists... it's just ridiculous and you know it."


I do not think that they are calling ALL Democrats Marxists, just some of them.


Based on what I have read about Barack Obama I would have to agree he flirts with the line of socialism.


Thanks


Lance

lance@americaagainstobama.com


http://www.AmericaAgainstObama.com

Posted by: Lance Haynie | August 23, 2008 5:02 PM

You know I really hate seeing all this nonsense about "fair taxes" and what not


If you want a fair tax system it should be a system that is based on a flat tax, yes flat!


What I do not get is the people who argue that a flat tax is not fair. Common sense tells you that if everyone pays the same percentage of their income its fair, does not matter what you make everyone will pay the same.


Thanks

Lance


lance@americaagainstobama.com


http://www.americaagainstobama.com

Posted by: Lance R Haynie | August 23, 2008 4:58 PM

I don't understand this single thing:

Why would people who are rich and say they pay "enough taxes" PREFER paying their taxes so their government can wage a 3000 Billion dollar war in Iraq, saving no american lives (actually, some 4000 U.S. kids died there last I heard, and of course over 500 000 Iraqi civilians... but who cares right ? better "them than us"...) RATHER THAN paying their taxes to help the fellow americans in need ?

I mean gee, I'd rather pay to help than pay to kill. Especially since it never made the country any more secure.

Just think of what could have been accomplished with 3000 Billion bucks spent back at home... not in the damn desert.

And gimme a break... I know it's a lotta fun, but please stop calling Dems marxists... it's just ridiculous and you know it.

Let's just get the boys back home, keep some in Afghanistan where the real danger is (remember the Taliban ? those from 9/11?), and start taking care of our own.

Posted by: Narcotek | August 23, 2008 4:58 PM

Joe Biden, the next diaper-changer-in-chief..

Posted by: JAZ | August 23, 2008 4:56 PM

There are/were two competing schools of thought on Iraq:
Don’t invade, but use diplomacy and broad coalitions to “influence” Saddam (no other nations would have suggested the use of force). While this approach may be appealing to some, it did not, and would not, influence Saddam to “behave”. He was already a monster in the region before 2003. His presence in the Middle East contributed to political unease, financial and territorial aid to terrorists and pure and simple inhumane actions against humanity. He would have continued to destabilize the entire region.
On the other hand, his overthrow would be the first step in removing his support of terrorism, removing the many weapons found in Iraq (including the tons of Uranium that were found) and providing a stable platform for a peaceful democracy in the middle of the region. A stable, Muslim democracy could well be the foundation for a moderate Muslim population opposed to radical extremists.
Given the two alternatives, there doesn’t seem to be any question that President Bush’s actions would provide a better chance for peace in the region. Peace does, at times, take years of war and negotiation before an acceptable result is realized.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 4:33 PM

"You're busy pretending that corporations and the wealthiest in this country pay their fair share. They don't."

So Broadsword, just how much do corporations pay in taxes? The answer to this is ZERO. The taxes charged to corporations are passed along to consumers in the cost of good and services. So just who do you think will pay the windfall tax Obama wants to charge the evil oil companies. How about every American from the poorest to the richest.

Posted by: Andrew | August 23, 2008 4:22 PM


Joe Biden made an offensive gaff in his very first speech as VP candidate. (just wait...)

What was that lame joke about it being a "problem" that his "drop dead gorgeous wife" has a doctorate degree?

Considering the way Hillary was dissed -- it was an incredibly stupid and insensitive thing to say.

What a jerk! In choosing Biden, Obama has proven that he has poor judgment.

Posted by: George McD | August 23, 2008 4:01 PM

First Speech Biden:

1. Makes a nasty sexist crack about his wife.

2. Calls Obama: Barack America.

More fun yet to come.

Posted by: Trapezius | August 23, 2008 4:01 PM

The introduction was anticlimactic. Snooze. No Biden bump.

Posted by: Morgo | August 23, 2008 3:58 PM

anyone up for a hot dog and burger cookout? these comments would be much funner to hear from people than read - need that voice inflection to get the goods.

Posted by: hungry | August 23, 2008 3:52 PM

They all stink ... I want a do-over!

Biden is an anit-American suck up... I can't stand him.

He is no leader...

- Voted NO on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. (Jul 1994)

... he is against VOLUNTARY prayer!

So obviously he is against freedom of religion.

- Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)

Obviously he is something other than American and shouldn't be trusted.


http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/joe_biden.htm

Posted by: Digusted with all candidates | August 23, 2008 3:51 PM

Ok, ok, I just realized why Biden was picked. Biden and his wife look alot like McCain with his wife.(Check the pic on foxnews) Obama wants to trick the Florida voters into voting for the Dems ticket when they think they will be "chadding" for McCain. So people in Florida don't be fooled. Read the names very s-l-o-w-l-y before voting!

Posted by: ironryan | August 23, 2008 3:50 PM

I am sick and tired of the cracks against women. Joe Biden's acceptance speech - "wife is drop-dead gorgeous... she also has a doctorate, which is a problem..."

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe Obama DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER Hillary!

I am voting for McCain. Not someone who lies through his teeth and is nostalgic for the 60s and the Kennedy's. Promising Caroline Kennedy an Ambassadorship to London like old Joe Kennedy?
Please. This guy is not for change, it's rhetoric as usual.

We ought to have respect for a man who was a POW for FIVE YEARS! If that doesn't show mental and physical strength, what does?!

Posted by: MBrady | August 23, 2008 3:49 PM

Broadspear - You treatise on taxes in the first parargaph sounds as if you want a tax on wealth not income which is very socialistic. Your comments about the second tax is totally wrong minded as it really is not a tax but a contribution towards the retirement income received on reaching a certain age. The income "taxed" also carries a cap on benefits commenserate to the amount taxed. If you remove the upper limit of income taxed to be "fair" then you must also remove the cap on benefits paid.

If you think the payroll tax is regressive. let'sd elimimate it and also eliminatew the programs it is used for and let the population fend for themselves. After all Obama just told us how wonderful it was that Biden's parents worked several jobs and made it just fine (no mention of any "gime gime" programs for these folks. Just self relianance

Too bad your sandlewearing parents did not teach you that therespobsible citizen does not stand in bread lines they go out and reinvent themselves when adversity hits and come back stronger than ever. Try it, it is a real high.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 3:32 PM

"To be clear, JE....you're the idiot."

Wow, such devestating political repartee!! You are a true credit to the Democratic party!! It is a real honor to engage in thoughtful political discourse with a real intellectual such as yourself....

HAHAHAHA.....I'm sorry, I can't keep typing and laughing at the same time!!

Posted by: JE | August 23, 2008 3:29 PM

The name of the town in the storyline should read"Sedona" not "Sredona".
If Obama/Biden can't win this election with the combination of the Bush Legacy and a very mediocre GOP candidate the Democrats should fold up shop as a party.
Spoken as a legit independent.

Posted by: Jim | August 23, 2008 3:26 PM

lets see, he has 300 advisers and picks biden as vp... picks biden because he has experience which he has none... is this the time to have a president in training?????? all i need to know about obama is wright and ayers....enough said america..................

Posted by: harry | August 23, 2008 3:22 PM

To be clear, JE....you're the idiot.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 3:22 PM

Hurray for Barry and Joe, aka, "Weak and Weaker". I can't wait for Joe (within 2 weeks, at the most) to run off at the mouth and then the MSM talking heads have to circle the wagons and spin him back into reality and, all the while, whining about how "Rush Limbaugh is being unfair, blah, blah, blah..." And I am sure that Chris Mathews will get chills up both of his legs with Joe on the ticket.
God Help this country if the Democrats take full control of it.

Posted by: donald duck | August 23, 2008 3:21 PM

The Republican capacity for self-delusion manifesting itself in voting against their own interests is pretty remarkable:

"There are about 117 million taxpayers in the United States.[8] The Treasury Department in 2006 reported, based on Internal Revenue Service (IRS) data, the share of federal income taxes paid by taxpayers of various income levels. The data shows the progressive tax structure of the U.S. federal income tax system on individuals that reduces the tax incidence of people with smaller incomes, as they shift the incidence disproportionately to those with higher incomes - the top 0.1% of taxpayers by income pay 17.4% of federal income taxes (earning 9.1% of the income), the top 1% with gross income of $328,049 or more pay 36.9% (earning 19%), the top 5% with gross income of $137,056 or more pay 57.1% (earning 33.4%), and the bottom 50% with gross income of $30,122 or less pay 3.3% (earning 13.4%).[9][10] If the federal taxation rate is compared with the wealth distribution rate, the net wealth (not only income but also including real estate, cars, house, stocks, etc) distribution of the United States does almost coincide with the share of income tax - the top 1% pay 36.9% of federal tax (wealth 32.7%), the top 5% pay 57.1% (wealth 57.2%), top 10% pay 68% (wealth 69.8%), and the bottom 50% pay 3.3% (wealth 2.8%).[11]

Other taxes in the United States with a less progressive structure or a regressive structure, and legal tax avoidance loopholes change the overall tax burden distribution. For example, the payroll tax system (FICA), a 12.4% Social Security tax on wages up to $97,500 and a 2.9% Medicare tax (a 15.3% total tax that is often split between employee and employer) is a regressive tax on income with no standard deduction or personal exemptions. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities states that three-fourths of U.S. taxpayers pay more in payroll taxes than they do in income taxes.[12] The Tax Foundation has stated that the burden of the corporate income tax (a 15-39% tax) falls on customers and workers of the corporations, who are often not rich.[13]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_States#cite_note-8

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 3:20 PM

A major question - Why do the democrats who have pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps Ie: Obama and Biden with NO NO government help now say to the rest of the people. You don't have to do this yourself WE will have the government do it for you. Do they think they are better than the rest of the people? Can never understand why the politician running is always touted as having been a self made person but wants to take that opportunity away from everyone else. That is Elitist and snobbery of the highest order.

As I type this Obama is denigrating Amtrak riders as people who suffer hardship because they have to ride a lonely train back home.

Sofestry destined to go down in the flames of serious defeat. And for those who think Biden can help in the coal hills of PA with Obama at the head of the ticket have no idea of the thought process of the population of that area.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 3:20 PM

McCain's immediate attack, using Biden's comment during the primaries that Obama isn't ready for prime time, strikes me as a tad graceless. It's fair enough, but he might have waited a decent interval before going for the jugular. Incidentally, I'm a fairly conservative Republican who disagrees with both Obama and Biden in many respects, but somewhat to my suprise I find myself rooting for the evil Democrats. Partly because I don't like McCain's jingoism.

Posted by: andyyonk | August 23, 2008 3:16 PM

Wealthy is everyone who is on food stamps,section 8 housing, ssi,wic.....
Poor is us idiots who work to pay for above.

Posted by: James | August 23, 2008 3:15 PM

Hey "broadsword"

I'm afraid you have shown yourself to be the "idiot" here. You said... "You're busy pretending that corporations and the wealthiest in this country pay their fair share. They don't. "

You are, of course, dead wrong! The top 50% of wage earners in this country pay 97% of the taxes collected.

Your "Chosen One", Obama Bin Laden wants to place a "Windfall Profits Tax" on the big oil companies for all their "obscene profits" of the last 2 years....maybe he should read this first:

"over the past 25 years, oil companies directly paid or remitted more than $2.2 trillion in taxes, after adjusting for inflation, to federal and state governments—including excise taxes, royalty payments and state and federal corporate income taxes. That amounts to more than three times what they earned in profits during the same period, according to the latest numbers from the Bureau of Economic Analysis and U.S. Department of Energy."

You and Obama are a socialists who want redistribute wealth from those who earned it, to those who didn't earn it.

Why don't you move to Europe or Canada where you can pay 45% income tax if you want to.

MORON!!

Posted by: JE | August 23, 2008 3:12 PM

I believe it is a compliment that the McCain camp is "angry" about Obama's choice of Joe Biden! Mc Cain's "experience(??) also needs someone like Biden, but they won't be lucky enough to find anyone who even comes close.

McCain's "experience" is mostly in his mind and in his fairy tales, but if people BELIEVE him, they probably also BELIEVED and voted for George Bush, who also managed a good job of pulling the wool over many eyes!

Yes! Yes! Yes!!! Obama has made a SUPER choice. McCain's people better start going into his Fairy Tale Book and start making up some wonderful stories about all the great things he has accomplished IN HIS "LIFE", NOT only "IN HIS MIND! It's pretty difficult to repeatedly keep TRYING to make the REAL NOTHING McCain has "accomplished" sound like SOMETHING!! Instead of spending all their time trying to cut Obama DOWN, they are PAST TIME to TRY building McCain UP!! He really needs it bad because when he opens his mouth, he is his own worst enemy and people are NOT stupid!

Posted by: Maerzie | August 23, 2008 3:12 PM

This only proves the depths of John McCain's soul and campaign. He has no class. A REAL man, a REAL opposing candidate would have had the grace to congratulate his colleague first, on receiving the nomination, BEFORE going negative. This reaction from McCain is further proof that his emotional development did not end the day he was shot down, but, was formed by being the son and grandson of more accomplished men. His envy of his father and grandfather has propelled him to do them one better. If he couldn't beat them by becoming an admiral, he thinks he can do it by becoming Commander-in-Chief of all the military. He always has been and always will be pitiful. We DON'T need another president with "daddy was a better man than me" issues.

John McCain is now just "A noun, a verb and POW"

Posted by: Historian1956 | August 23, 2008 3:11 PM

John McCain needs Mitt Romney on the ticket in order to get my vote. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMY!!

Posted by: Big Sky | August 23, 2008 3:05 PM

So what is a fair share for a contributing taxpayer? What do you consider wealthy?

Posted by: mindful pedestrian | August 23, 2008 3:03 PM

I did find the wepons being stockpiled in Iraq in 1999 and for that I was ridiculed by Biden and the Clinton Govt. Anyway---get out your books by Vladimer Lenin cause the Socialist Republic of Soviet America is about to happen.

Posted by: JAMES | August 23, 2008 3:01 PM

At least someone on the ticket looks like those guys on the dollar bills.

Posted by: steve | August 23, 2008 3:00 PM

this morning on Fox, Joe Biden was asked if southern voters would vote for a liberal democrate from the north east. He said "im from a slave state...southern voters understand that." Im from Delaware, I dont understnd that. Hes a disgrace.

Posted by: mgs | August 23, 2008 2:58 PM

Ralpherus, you're an idiot. Little wonder you vote GOP. Your tax-cutting is nothing more than an attempt to bribe me...with my own money. Clever.

It's almost like you think tax cuts come without a cost.

The debt is quite real. The deficit is quite real.

You're busy pretending like the middle class and the poor aren't going to be the ones that have to pay for your titanic folly. They will.

You're busy pretending that corporations and the wealthiest in this country pay their fair share. They don't.

You're busy pretending like the United States of America doesn't have to honor its fiduciary obligations or pay its creditors. We do.

You people have wrecked the country.

Great job. Way to go.

Explain to us all how you're planning to service this enormous bond debt. What's your answer to that question, buddy?

Marxist? I'm a CAPITALIST that is sick of seeing my country fleeced.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 2:56 PM

"Thank GOD that Obama has chosen Biden for his V.P. At least one has experience, now I will be able to sleep at night..Obama has a big agenda and I DON'T BELIEVE its for our best interest."

I agree, I still dont think he has a chance to win this election. At least if he does thought someone will have some knowledge.

Though like Biden said himself, the president is on an "on the job training" type of job. He just does not have the experience.

Thanks!
lance@americaagainstobama.com

http://www.AmericaAgainstObama.com

Posted by: Lance Haynie | August 23, 2008 2:56 PM

Suddenly, the term "organ-grinder" comes to mind.

Posted by: Richard | August 23, 2008 2:52 PM

Thank GOD that Obama has chosen Biden for his V.P. At least one has experiance, now I will be able to sleep at night..Obama has a big agenda and I DON'T BELIEVE its for our best interest.

Posted by: Tiliyeah | August 23, 2008 2:50 PM

Drill Here Drill NOW. Or, we could boil the oil out of the rich fat pig democrats....

Posted by: ralpherus | August 23, 2008 2:48 PM

Thank GOD that Obama has chosen Biden for his V.P. At least one has experiance, now I will be able to sleep at night..Obama has a big agenda and I BELIEVE its for our best interest.

Posted by: Tiliyeah | August 23, 2008 2:48 PM

"The American Public is sick and tired of the mediocracy we are given. No one is listening to OUR struggle. ALL THOSE WHO HAVE THE POWER TO DO SOMETHING SIMPLY GO BACK TO THEIR GREAT MANSIONS AND VEGETATE ON OUR ISSUES."

Come on, Mills....don't be such a hypocrite. Did you see Biden's estate outside of Willmington, DE this morning on the news. It is estimated at over $1.5 million dollars. he also owns a home in Washington, and I believe, one on the Delaware coast. Obama owns a $1.7 million dollar home on Chicago's south side. Remember the whole Rezko deal with him buying the lot next door and then sub-dividing it so Obama could afford to add to the grounds of the estate. John McCain's wife (who has a net worth close to $100 million), owns several homes. WHO CARES!!! Isn't that the American dream....to become rich and successful?? I own 3 homes myself, 1 I live in and the other 2 I rent out.

Don't try to make out that Obama and Biden are any different than anybody else in politics in that respect. It has always been a rich person's game, and it probably always will be!! AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!! Grow up!!


Posted by: JE | August 23, 2008 2:46 PM

What is this abou tpauvrepapillon? I looked it up, and only find a butterfly? HUH?

Posted by: ralpherus | August 23, 2008 2:44 PM

Biden is just a regular like you and me.
Never mind that he has been Senator of Delaware for over a hundred years . Nevermind that his son is Delaware Attorney General. Never mind that Delaware is entirely populated by corporations. And never mind that Biden lives in a compound with a mile long driveway. He is just a regular guy who mows his own lawn and cares about all you whiny people who claim poverty.

Posted by: Sigmond | August 23, 2008 2:43 PM

"By the way, can anyone explain the war in Iraq?"
/
fixed for truth.
This message board is full of ignorant people, who, despite having access to a computer, only use such access to log into FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Rick | August 23, 2008 2:43 PM

Obama just drove a wedge and split the Democratic party. If he really wanted to unify it, he would have chosen Clinton. If Obama is divisive and polarizing, as well as weak and confused.

Posted by: Jane | August 23, 2008 2:42 PM

Hey Broadsword- I lost the post now, but you asked republicans to explain how tax cuts helped the economy... Ready? First, tax cuts are for folks who PAY TAXES. You peasants who make no money and pay no taxes, well, how can you get a tax cut? So, let us be fair- the people who pay for the government to waste too much money (yes, some from our camp have done it too...damn it) should be the ones who get a break. Now, recall the wee kickback that EVERYONE got- it kep the economy on the float.... see, when we have more of OUR money to use as We, the owners want, then we can spend and it helps the economy. You think the threat of higher taxes has not slowed the economy? Big layoffs because folks are scared they would be paying rodents to make stuff nobody will buy...so lay off city. Every time in history taxes are lowered, the economy jumps. Every time taxes are raised, economy slumps. It has nothing to do with the emotions of envious greedy have-nots who want to make the rich suffer, it is just fact. So, look, you are a marxist. The USA is a state of freedom. Get OUT while the gettin's good. I hear Hugo Chavez gives free cocaine to fellow marxist swine...

Posted by: ralpherus | August 23, 2008 2:39 PM

By the way, can any of you Liberals answer PauvrePapillon??

Seems like a reasonable question deserving of an answer.

To quote the head liberal - that is above our paygrade.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 2:39 PM

Oh, Broadsword, so your Socialist philosophy has been throughly vetted and found to be a worthy direction for this country?

Wow. I hope you are sterile.

Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2008 2:37 PM

"By the way, can any of you Liberals answer PauvrePapillon??

Seems like a reasonable question deserving of an answer."

Sorry but that is above our paygrade to quote the head liberal these days.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 2:37 PM

Congrats to the libs. You have doomed yourselves to the dungheap of failed policies once again!!! Biden's past will be exposed in full. Im sure it wont measure up to a "blonde in every pond" Ted Kennedy mantra, but you never know! (smile) BTW, has anyone ever looked into Hussein Obama's birth certificate??!! It's forged, and he was born in Kenya, then flown to Hawaii 4 days later.He is not an American citizen, but as he stated in Europe, he is a citizen of the world! Stay tuned America! The show has just begun. Mcain WILL keep the bowling alley in the White House, and Cindy is picking out the drapes as I type!

Posted by: bskyhawk | August 23, 2008 2:35 PM

By the way, can any of you Liberals answer PauvrePapillon??

Seems like a reasonable question deserving of an answer.

Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2008 2:35 PM

I am a democrat and supported Hilary. I was actually gonna support Mccain right until he stated that his economic policies will be a mirror image of the current administration. This Great Country is so much better than what the republicans have done to it, like selling OUR country out! Hopefully, the middle-class and others have learned that the republicans don't care about anything but money and their own specials interests! Wake Up, because this political party only wants two economic classes in this Great Country, rich and poor!! Think about that next time you vote!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:32 PM

Biden has nothing to do with change. Unless it is change BACK to having the fanatical murder cultists setting off bombs trying to take down landmark buildings, more hijackings, gangsters let loose without prosecution, APR's in the 30% range... Oh NO! We cannot allow brainless unclean masses of hysterical morons take over and destroy the civillization we have made. MARXISTS: GET OUT.

Posted by: ralpherus | August 23, 2008 2:31 PM

Here's an idea. I would like all the Republicans here to stop pretending that their philosophy has any credibility left.

That would be great, thanks.

My dear Lord, you people really *are* stupid.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 2:30 PM

EARL C asks "When will the Republicans start talking about issues, not personalities?"

What??

WHAT???????

Support for Obama is nothing BUT a cult of personality! He is absolutely no different than any other politician, yet his foolish, ignorant supporters swoon when he speaks!

At least most Republicans are honest, and admit McCain is a flawed candidate, but hey, we have to stick by him...

Liberals, on the other hand, are so naturally dishonest they support Obama on blind faith alone. Funny, the party that will go to great lengths to remove religion from our lives treats their candidate like a God.

Liberals, if they are allowed to implement their goals, will destroy this nation.

Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2008 2:30 PM

The Dems can kiss the South goodbye. What a great choice--for the Republicans. The Plagiarist...Plugs himself. To be or not to be...J Biden. Obama is an idiot anyway, but he's not going to win because he's black, he's a socialist and his middle name is Hussein. When the voters get behind the voting booth curtain, they'll do the right thing and vote against him, not for McCain.

Posted by: Rag Arm | August 23, 2008 2:29 PM

You should all just go outside.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:26 PM

The notion that Obama preferred to pick experience over change is LUDICROUS!!!!!!!! I am amazed at the silliness of the news media and its pundits.

Biden scares the opposing side and its just as simple as that. Biden will not be the President. He will be the Vice-president. Obamas's CHANGE platform is the force that Biden will follow to the vice-presidency. Biden's strength is that he knows how those pundits operate and will be key to allowing CHANGE to flourish.

The American Public is sick and tired of the mediocracy we are given. No one is listening to OUR struggle. ALL THOSE WHO HAVE THE POWER TO DO SOMETHING SIMPLY GO BACK TO THEIR GREAT MANSIONS AND VEGETATE ON OUR ISSUES. We need better representation and we need people who are a part of the crowd but aren't afraid to divert from it. Biden was the right man for the job.

Posted by: mills | August 23, 2008 2:25 PM

clscreenname,

1. But the Bush Administration has hired more black people in his Administration than any President in History. What if McCain picks Rice for VP? We don't know that yet.


apparently you haven't noticed that the entire GOP Congressional delegation....is white.


1. We had a tech bubble burst, we had 9/11, we had a housing bubble burst, energy crisis, we had the kitchen sink thrown at the economy. But somehow we avoided a recession. Incomes are the highest they have ever been, our unemployment numbers are the lowest in the world. Without the tax cuts those numbers would be out of control.

Hey, here's one. Maybe all the Republicans here can take some time to explain to all of us how their tax cuts helped the economy. You've had the cuts for seven years, so how's that workin' out for the nation's budgetary health?

3. Somehow its working. Last I checked on the news it was.

How's that unfettered Friedman free-marketeering working out in your little sandbox in Iraq?

War paying for itself yet? Hmmmm?

3. Human Lives are priceless. Our sacrifices in the Middle East have prevented a major Terrorist attack on our soil.

Democracy taking over the middle-east yet?


4. Yep. Two countries liberated from terrible dictorships. History is being made.


Tax cuts resulting in increased revenues yet? Hmmmm?

5. Yep. I am a lot better of than I was 7 years ago thanks to tax cuts.


Found those WMD's yet? Hmmmm?

6. Saddam was a WMD.. LOL

Sure! You're 'fiscal conservatives'!

7. No Bush is a Liberal. True he is not a fiscal conservative you won. Liberal with spending, Liberal with immigration, Liberal because he kisses the UN's, NAFTA's butt, OPEC's butt, Liberal because he acknowledges Global Warming, Liberal because he funded more 3rd world countries than any other President in History. Liberal because he increased the size of government beyond belief. I am tired of Liberal Presidents.. Now I have to vote another Liberal (McCain) in the white house just to stop a left wing socialist nutjob.

And you're sure to haul out that old canard in this election...that we're a bunch of a tax and spend Liberals!

Well, better a tax-and-spend Liberal than a "Borrow it all from the Chinese in the form of bond debt, then blow everything by setting fire to a giant pile of cash in the desert, then borrow more, all while giving yourselves a massive tax cut, that you're also financing by issuing even more debt" Republican.

If this is your idea of American exceptionalism, I'll take a pass. I'll be voting for someone that's not you guys, that's for sure, because you have proven definitively to be far too stupid, corrupt and blindly greedy to govern. You campaign on the idea that Government doesn't work, and then you get elected and bitterly prove it.

Posted by: grgeiger | August 23, 2008 2:25 PM

Joe Biden, Change!!

Obama will save us all. Go Joe! Change!

Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change, Change,

Posted by: smitty | August 23, 2008 2:25 PM

Left and Leftier. Two Social Democrats with the urge to spend tax payer dollars to pay off the the typical suspects of the Democrat let. Here it comes (1) Money to help cities pay for police (2) Money for cities to help pay to keep kids off the streets (3) Money for schools to help them pay for the gas to fuel the buses due to the Democrats need to pay off the environmental wackos and of course (4) Money for middle class people made poorer by the polcies of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. More money, more government, more regulation and more of the same which Obama calls "Change" and now Biden adds to the formula " Talk Change; Govern Left" It is no wonder Obama needs Hollywood to script his campaign.

Posted by: Rich | August 23, 2008 2:24 PM

"'Wow, if you are truly Americans, I am sad to see so much racism in here. All you do in here is attempt character assassinatations. Grow up. It is about issues and using character is a smoke screen. Keep it up racists and other pointless chatter, let the elites control you even more and keep the truth from you. Racism is just another form of ignorance and ignorance creates a decline in any civilization, but of course you racists are not educated since you can even reflect on an article or discuss anything important and productive with ethics. How pointless are most of these comments. Anger is darkness, I hope you grow up out of these childish behaviors and join the real American family of values and democracy.

Posted by: Shame on You | August 23, 2008 12:50 PM'"


Huh?

Uh, one word, ready?:

COMPREHENSION...

Goes a long way.

Dale

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:23 PM

I also forgot to mention that the selection of Biden may help the Democrats in Delaware....but with only 3 electoral votes, it does not really do much for them...

What a strange selection for the Obama team. For someone who campaigns on a "change" platform, why would he select a VP who has been part of the inside, political elite for nearly 30 years?? Will the selection of Biden "fire up" young people? Minorities? Women? Are voters who were undecided on Obama now suddenly going to believe that Joe Biden on the ticket changes the way they feel about Obama? Will Obama supporters embrace Biden? Remember, this is the same man who just a few months ago said that obama "was not ready" to be President.
I don't think that the selection of Biden does anything to strengthen the ticket (based on the campaign platform), in fact I think it weakens it!! On the other hand, if McCain selects Mitt Romney as his VP, that WILL fire up the Conservative base of the Republican party (many of whom are luke-warm in their support of McCain)and will give a trememndous boost to the Republican team.

Posted by: JE | August 23, 2008 2:22 PM

Seriously, is this how this site is run? 2,000 word diatribes with no insight?

1.) McCain is an old ass man. The only time I forget how many houses I own is when I play Monopoly.

2.) Do you people that type these treatises ever work?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:20 PM

Obama's pick, Biden, is a scary thing to those who are now trying to use it to crucify Obama. Firts and foremost, Obama's supposed weakness of a lack of foreign policy experience is simply a child-like daydream of those who consistently jump to this argument. NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, has the requisite foreign policy experience to be President, hence, anyone with common sense, excellent judgment, and a love for the USA can do the job.

Biden's previous attacks on OBAMA were normal, expected, and not surprising. HE WAS RUNNING AGAINST OBAMA!!!! It amazes me that people think this is newsworthy. If Obama had chosen Hilary, who attacked Obama like he was the last piece of red meat on earth, there would be very little coverage of the issue.

I am soooooooooo PROUD of his choice. I always felt Biden was the RIGHT choice and I am even more convinced that Obama uses supreme skill and intellect in this election campaign.

It amazes me that some European-Americans would have voted for Hilary but are now vouching for McCain. Obama's and Hil's platforms were practically the same, which is why many real-Americans see any one who makes this choice as racist. They prefer to see african-americans doing bad things instead of great things but are too delusuinal to admit that sick reality.

Posted by: mills | August 23, 2008 2:19 PM

>>Well, better a tax-and-spend Liberal than a "Borrow it all from the Chinese in the form of bond debt, then blow everything by setting fire to a giant pile of cash in the desert, then borrow more, all while giving yourselves a massive tax cut, that you're also financing by issuing even more debt" Republican.

THANK YOU

Very well said!

Posted by: beverins | August 23, 2008 2:17 PM

It's spelled Sedona.

Posted by: Zonie | August 23, 2008 2:13 PM

Many presidents have come on board with little or no white house experience, most notably Ronald Reagon. It is the person who makes the position not the position which makes the person. I am aware there are the weak at heart who will quote the old" I know so and so and you are not he". Another brilliant deduction by lamebrains, as no two people are alike exactly.More mileage has been taken by McCain on his war hero status than any two airlines give away annually. Thing about the airlines, they know you took the flights presented for credit. Continuous infighting by McCain in his senators duties may work well with those who know him and have fallen in lockstep with others who have pity on him for one reason or another. I don't see that being the case if he should be called upon to talk out a situation with a foriegn nation.IMO McCain has no argument other than his word that he will defend the constitution and the country. I seem to remember GW Bush saying the same rhetorical words while going in his own direction. McCain = McSame

Posted by: bobgraham | August 23, 2008 2:11 PM

omg what was he thinking lol

Posted by: deb | August 23, 2008 2:10 PM

What a strange selection for the Obama team. For someone who campaigns on a "change" platform, why would he select a VP who has been part of the inside, political elite for nearly 30 years?? Will the selection of Biden "fire up" young people? Minorities? Women? Are voters who were undecided on Obama now suddenly going to believe that Joe Biden on the ticket changes the way they feel about Obama? Will Obama supporters embrace Biden? Remember, this is the same man who just a few months ago said that obama "was not ready" to be President.
I don't think that the selection of Biden does anything to strengthen the ticket (based on the campaign platform), in fact I think it weakens it!! On the other hand, if McCain selects Mitt Romney as his VP, that WILL fire up the Conservative base of the Republican party (many of whom are luke-warm in their support of McCain)and will give a trememndous boost to the Republican team.

Posted by: JE | August 23, 2008 2:08 PM

Idiots all.
GW Moron had foreign relations experience ?
Yeh. Buying weed with Jeb in Jamaica...
Buyed_in will be the real p_Resident just like Cheney is today... HOWEVER. HE IS A FAR BETTER MAN.
I hope to find out.

Renoucing ones chitizenship eliminates one from the role of voting.
God Bless Diebolt and Poppy Boobs CIA.


Posted by: Doug Ward | August 23, 2008 2:07 PM

Is there no such thing as cognitive dissonance for liberals?

I’m having a hard time grasping how supposedly compassionate people can line up behind a supposedly compassionate leader who despite having made millions of dollars allows his very own brother to live in a shantytown shack with no running water, no electricity and no toilet.

How does even a moderately compassionate person do that?

My wife is from Madagascar. We do not have near the resources as Obama; nevertheless, we are constantly sending money to help out and happy to be able to do so. We know many couples like us where one partner is from a third world country and everyone we know sends money and clothes back to help out the relatives that can’t get a visa to a developed country and hence will never have the opportunities that we have here in America.

Obama is literally the only person with family in a third world country that we have ever even heard of that has just abandoned them yet he is viewed by millions as some sort of savior.

The only way that I can see that this makes any sense is that neither Obama nor his followers really have any concern for anyone else whatsoever. Their supposed compassion is merely a smoke screen to justify a program of Marxist income redistribution.

Without changing the subject and just firing back with the Democrats’ talking points about how bad the Republicans are, is there anyone out there who can provide any justification whatsoever for Obama kicking his family to the curb?

Posted by: PauvrePapillon | August 23, 2008 2:06 PM

clscreenname, apparently you haven't noticed that the entire GOP Congressional delegation....is white.

You must also have forgotten that the very Civil Rights act that you mentioned is what fomented a giant party switch for Dixiecrats over to the GOP, and moved civic-minded moderate Republicans over to the Dems.

You can't have it both ways. You can't embrace religious xenophobic culturally conservative nutjobs as your base, and then clam that you're somehow the party of parity.

You're just embarrassing.

Hey, here's one. Maybe all the Republicans here can take some time to explain to all of us how their tax cuts helped the economy. You've had the cuts for seven years, so how's that workin' out for the nation's budgetary health?

(Clue: we already know the answer)

How's that unfettered Friedman free-marketeering working out in your little sandbox in Iraq?

War paying for itself yet? Hmmmm?

Democracy taking over the middle-east yet? Hmmmm?

Tax cuts resulting in increased revenues yet? Hmmmm?

Found those WMD's yet? Hmmmm?

Sure! You're 'fiscal conservatives'!

And you're sure to haul out that old canard in this election...that we're a bunch of a tax and spend Liberals!

Well, better a tax-and-spend Liberal than a "Borrow it all from the Chinese in the form of bond debt, then blow everything by setting fire to a giant pile of cash in the desert, then borrow more, all while giving yourselves a massive tax cut, that you're also financing by issuing even more debt" Republican.

If this is your idea of American exceptionalism, I'll take a pass. I'll be voting for someone that's not you guys, that's for sure, because you have proven definitively to be far too stupid, corrupt and blindly greedy to govern. You campaign on the idea that Government doesn't work, and then you get elected and bitterly prove it.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 2:03 PM

>>Interesting. Any Democrat who says he's voting for McCain is a fraud, huh...
Well, I'm a public school teacher and my dad is a retired public school teacher who has NEVER voted for a Republican. He's already told me he's voting for McCain, as have several of my Democratic teacher buddies.

I could just as easily type that I'm a Republican who's going to vote for Obama, because the GOP ticket represents all that has ruined the GOP since Nixon.

Internet anomymity is great, isn't it? How much is McSenile paying you lot, hmm?

Posted by: beverins | August 23, 2008 2:01 PM

Although Joe Biden has never been the sharpest pencil in the desk, I suppose ultimate dissappointment lies in this being the best Obama thinks he an do. We can certainly expect Biden to bring the topic of plagiarism to the fore. But acclimation to stains on a blue dress and the most recent round of "Who's your daddy?", maybe using the words of others as your own is pretty tame stuff.

Posted by: Liquiity | August 23, 2008 1:59 PM

Obama bin Biden, Obama bin BIDEN, OBAMA BIN BIDENNN!!!! AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!

I just had an epiphany: Barry is toast.

Posted by: BitterClinger | August 23, 2008 1:54 PM

Osama bin laden

Obama joebiden

Posted by: jjjoe3 | August 23, 2008 1:52 PM

I hope McCain doesn't pick Romney; the guy's nothing more than an ambulatory waffle. I'm pulling for Bobby Jindal.

'Course, I'm just a bitter hillbilly clinging to my guns and my God, so what do I know.

Posted by: BitterClinger | August 23, 2008 1:47 PM

I was pretty surprised to see Obama's run for the nomination referred to by Biden as a "tragic mistake"... dang... there's a bumper sticker there!

http://www.UpYoursObama.com/

Posted by: UpYoursObama.com | August 23, 2008 1:42 PM

Broadsword - if you're going to talk about country-club Republicans, don't forget the limousine Liberals (those creatures of short memory, and shorter sight).

An interesting study can be made at the site from which the excerpt was take:

“Even the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which supposedly established the Democrats’ bona fides on race, was passed in spite of the Democrats rather than because of them. Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen pushed the bill through the Senate, despite the no-votes of 21 Democrats, including Gore Sr. and Robert Byrd, who remains a powerful force in the Senate today. In contrast, only four Republicans opposed the bill, mostly like Barry Goldwater on libertarian principles, not segregationist ones.

Indeed, the case of Sen. Byrd is instructive when it comes to the double standard applied to the two parties when it comes to race. Even those Democrats who have exploited the Lott affair acknowledge that he is no racist. Can the same be said about Sen. Byrd, who was a member of the KKK and who recently used the "n" word on national TV?”

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/owens/02/racism.html

Posted by: clscreenname | August 23, 2008 1:41 PM

To: Shame On You

What a loser you are. It must be very sad to think that you have no control over your life. But then again, you feel that only you are elightened enough to see the truth in it all.

"...the elite control you...", "...your all racists..." "Anger is darkness" I havent read so much garbage in one post in a while.

1) Racism means that I assume when I hear that someone is (insert race here) that they must be a criminal or if I hear a crime is committed I automatically assume it is commited by (insert race here). None of these things are true for the majority of normal people. What separates most peoples are thier culture and the lack of understanding of other cultures. Given that the USA has such a large mix of cultures,the general assumption is that all/most Americans are racist...a fact that demostrates a lack of knowledge of what racisms really is. Generally speaking, throwing the "racist" epithet alot indicates the person doing so needs to go back to school.

2) What controls me are our laws and my willingness to follow then for the benefit of myself and fellow man. I have the freedom to do as I please and rise and fall according to my gifts. Some are more gifted than I or have more resources than I, but the reverse is also true and I make my way through this world accordingly. It must be very depressing to realize that the Elites control you. Maybe another layer on your tinfoil had will protect you more effectively. Or you could switch to aluminum foil. It is more corrosive resistant and lighter in weight.

Posted by: GSXRDude | August 23, 2008 1:39 PM

And you thought CHENEY was running the show? Oh, my aching sides!

Posted by: Paul | August 23, 2008 1:38 PM

ddddd

Posted by: ddd | August 23, 2008 1:36 PM

Feminist Cheryl--

You said "Any woman that calls themself a feminist and then votes for McCain deserves the @ss kicking the GOP will hand them once in office when they continue to reduce funding for education, overturn Roe, and privatize social security."

Correct me if I am wrong but don't Democrats control both houses? So how is this going to happen?

Cheryl, btw ... Feminism is dead. I knew you had to be old as your age group was the last true echelon of feminism. These days feminist are really just the "gay until graduation girls".

Keep trying, you may be able to get a good man yet.

Posted by: Agent Orange | August 23, 2008 1:34 PM

What do you get when you put two want-to-be political morons together????? The liberal losing ticket

Posted by: liberals suck | August 23, 2008 1:32 PM

It's going to be hilarious when Hillary snatches the nomination at the DNC. Hundreds of millions of campaign dollars, squandered - on a hopeful candidate who, himself, has said he isn't prepared for the presidency. This is probably just a way to gear up for a later run. Barack will shoot himself in the foot now, so during a later campaign he can use exponentially increased white guilt to win the election. I'll say a lot against Obama, but I will never say he isn't smart. I'll also never say he is a Muslim.

Despite all this, I think it was a good choice for VP, in that it will make for an interesting campaign overall. Lots of good, old-fashioned, mud-slingin’ politics; I love to hear how the candidates feel about one another on a visceral level. And considering the historical import of this election, I’d like to point out how polite it’s been.

Posted by: Bill B | August 23, 2008 1:25 PM

"You mean like aid and comfort to the enemy? Kind of like the liberal Dems in congress accusing and judging our military of crimes that they were eventually acquitted of? You mean wishing openly for defeat? You mean constantly telling the enemy what we're doing and how we're doing it? You mean trying to block any legislation that would help win the war?"

Ah, Congress must have declared war then, right? Oh, I almost forgot. We're in an endless, expensively meandering and undeclared war against an 'ism'.

The Constitution, Article 1, Section 8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress

Maybe you should read it.

"It may, in fact affect the way my daughter sees things, "why does Suzie have two moms/dads?"

Yeah, God forbid parents should have to do actual parenting. You should work on your family values.

"I think people should FOLLOW THE LAW when entering this country doesn't make me a bigot..."

Yeah, what I was implying is that your anger against illegal immigrants is emblematic of your underlying fear and prejudice.

Probably too nuanced an argument for a dimwitted GOP kool-aid aficionado.

Your politicians dine out on that fear. It's their M.O., it's what butters their bread.

Republicans trade on your fear and prejudice, because they're a gang of amoral demagogues, and that's what amoral demagogues do. It's what they've done, it's what they're doing right now.

It's not about enforcing the law. It's about sewing division. It's what you do, it's who you voted for, so try embracing it. Be a PROUD bigot, already.

"Libby lied to a grand jury. That's the "slew" of federal laws you speak of?"

Yeah. The Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. The Hatch Act. Obstruction of Justice, lying to Federal investigators, lying to Congress, the list is long. A slew, in fact.

Maybe you should read the IIPA:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/421.html

My favorite was when Plame testified before Congress. None of the tough-guy Republicans that had been calling her a 'glorified secretary' had the *stones* to appear at the hearing. They all ran away and hid.

To be clear, that was the best proof ever that your party is helmed by a gang of gutless punks that put political gain and the consolidation of power ahead of the interests of the nation.

Essentially, when you outed that spy, you became traitors. I don't care that the self-serving power structure in DC protected itself against prosecution.

I know what you did. The country knows, too. You're still lying to yourself about what happened, apparently.

"After all the bigotry crap spewing from Obama's mouth, please, spare us the soapbox speech...."

Really. Bigotry. From Obama. Really.

The black guy is the bigot here, not the country-club Republicans who work tirelessly to suppress the black vote.

It's not the party of Thurmond, Helms and Lott that's playing the race card, rather the Progressive Liberal that's supported by a massive, multi-racial coalition.

Really.


Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 1:24 PM

I'm a lifelong Democrat, and have been appalled and outraged over the inept and corrupt Bush administration - along with most thinking and decent Americans.

However, what was the Democratic party thinking when they put this ticket together?

The Democrats are on the verge of taking back the White House from the most unpopular Republican president in historical memory, and *this* is their ticket?

A black man with the middle name "Hussein", with an angry and hypersensitive wife, whose "spiritual advisor" is a race-baiting white-hating America-denigration ranter, who has a seemingly endless parade of half-brothers popping out of third-world shacks like cockroaches - is at the *top* of the ticket???

You can't make this stuff up - the DNC must be collectively the biggest group of idiots on the planet.

Posted by: Steve | August 23, 2008 1:22 PM

SREDONA???

Posted by: Kentson | August 23, 2008 1:17 PM

Broadsword...get a life worth something.

BHO is the only person so far to bring up race...oh wait so did Biden.

Also, the average person does not "have alot of gay friends" like you do. Don't assume that, since the estimates max out at 10% gay. So if everyone had 100 friends, they would know 10 gay people.

Your argument about the illegal immigrants is knee-jerk and shows a typical P.C. lack of knowlege on the subject. What most Americans believe and rely on is the rule of law. The point being that anyone can come here if it is done according to our laws. Additionally, having been married to an illegal immigrant for over 13 years,I can tell you that the social dynamic in thier culture allows for much more "soft" criminal activity than we would allow due to most of them being raised in corrupt countries. To them, falsifying documents to get benefits (it is done much more than the libs would have you belive) is not considered a crime to them as all governemnts are corrupt. Also, stealing from a company is likewise not frowned upon.

V. Plame???? Her husband tried to play the Potomac Two-Step and she lost. Too bad, so sad. She wasn't an active agent at the time anyway.

My view is that both candidates stink as it is. Obama is the typical Lib politician who cant make a coherrant thought without a teleprompter so when foreign leaders talk to him he will sound like a complete dope and be the laughing stock of the world.

McCain reminds me of Grandpa Simpson and will likewise be the laughing stock of the world.

I think that when the phone rings at 3am Obama would say "uhhh,uhm,lets see, ahh" and McCain would say "this is John Mc *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-snore*"

So I don't know who to vote for this year. Maybe it will be the year of the V.P.'s

Posted by: GSXRDude | August 23, 2008 1:16 PM

Romney is quite possibly the biggest foriegn affairs expert on the planet.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 1:15 PM

Former republican posting here.... Forget the rhetoric against Obama during the campaign, Biden is just a jerk. That alone will be this tickets downfall. Biden's whole attitude is arrogant and mean. I'm sure the left likes Bidens style but most Americans will be turned off by him. Just listen back to his pontificating at the John Roberts hearings.
It's funny, if there were ever a year for the Dems to win big, this is it. But they can't seem to get any momentum and this ticket shows how out of touch they really are.

Unfortunately, I cant say much better for the Repulicans. Both branches of gov. belonged to them and they were to d... spineless to get anything done. I'm pissed at all of them.

Posted by: ironryanis | August 23, 2008 1:14 PM

Interesting. Any Democrat who says he's voting for McCain is a fraud, huh...

Well, I'm a public school teacher and my dad is a retired public school teacher who has NEVER voted for a Republican. He's already told me he's voting for McCain, as have several of my Democratic teacher buddies.

Come November, 20-25% of Democrats are going to pull the lever for McCain. If you think Joe Biden is going to stop that, you're either crazy or stoned.

Posted by: stickety | August 23, 2008 1:13 PM

What about a Nader/Clinton Ticket?

Anybody talk to Hill about it?

Posted by: Pat Mabooty | August 23, 2008 1:06 PM

Typical Dems... this ticket is upside down. Should be Biden/Obama. Biden is the farthest thing from a fresh face that represents the future of the donkey party, but then it is the donkey party.

Posted by: shorty | August 23, 2008 1:06 PM

>>"PJ 451 - Dale, I'm not wwearing jannies, I'm in bed with your mon"
Typical liberal who can't keep quiet about getting some. How was your first time with a woman PJ451, Will you be switching?
Posted by: joe | August 23, 2008 12:12 PM

I see this board is populated with schoolchildren.. good to know.

Posted by: beverins | August 23, 2008 1:06 PM

>>Therefore, as a registered democratic, I'll cast my vote for McCain.

Cindy is a republican, as are all of the ppl who say they will vote McSenile. You ppl aren't fooling anyone.

Posted by: beverins | August 23, 2008 1:03 PM

yo

Posted by: gfhjgf | August 23, 2008 1:02 PM

How does McCain have foriegn policy experience? Being a hostage is not a job requirement. Formulating and implementing policy is a usually helpful. If being a hostage makes a person a foriegn policy expert, than a DUI makes me a lawyer.

Posted by: Rick | August 23, 2008 1:00 PM

To "Shame on you":

I hope you're enjoying your sophomore year.

Posted by: Dimslie | August 23, 2008 12:55 PM

CFR = Council on Foreign Relations,
A non-partisan think-tank.

Posted by: neverwill | August 23, 2008 12:54 PM

4 electoral votes, if can deliver, Edwards
didn't in NC.

Posted by: Steve | August 23, 2008 12:54 PM

I'm registered as an Independent. I'm amazed at some of the posts about Biden.
His experience on the Senate Foreign Relations and Judiciary Committee speaks for itself. Whether you like Biden or not,he has more experience and qualifications than any other potential VP.
Romney would be the best pick for McCain.Now lets listen to the issues instead of the idiotic brain dead partison
posts.

Posted by: eperkuf1982 | August 23, 2008 12:53 PM

Wow, if you are truly Americans, I am sad to see so much racism in here. All you do in here is attempt character assassinatations. Grow up. It is about issues and using character is a smoke screen. Keep it up racists and other pointless chatter, let the elites control you even more and keep the truth from you. Racism is just another form of ignorance and ignorance creates a decline in any civilization, but of course you racists are not educated since you can even reflect on an article or discuss anything important and productive with ethics. How pointless are most of these comments. Anger is darkness, I hope you grow up out of these childish behaviors and join the real American family of values and democracy.

Posted by: Shame on You | August 23, 2008 12:50 PM

As far as Obama running this country: that's "above his pay grade."

Hey Joe! Got any more hysterical jokes about Indians working in 7-11s? Let's hear that one again!

Posted by: DaisyCutter | August 23, 2008 12:47 PM

"PJ 451 - Dale, I'm not wwearing jannies, I'm in bed with your mon"

Typical liberal who can't keep quiet about getting some. How was your first time with a woman PJ451, Will you be switching?

Posted by: joe | August 23, 2008 12:12 PM"

Nice shot over the bow!

Dale

Posted by: Dale | August 23, 2008 12:43 PM

Everyone will be happy to know that the spokes babe for the Young Democrats thinks that because Joe Biden goes home to Deleware every night he is not a Washington, DC insider. Time to consider raising the voting age to around 40. It really has been down hill since they moved beyond just people owning land having the vote.

Speaking of land, time to go mow my 5 acre estate. And I know how many houses I own - 4.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 12:42 PM

""You're little BHO thing doesn't work either. Apparently, most of the country is OK with the idea that his middle name is Arabic. YOU'RE the one baiting race, pal.""

LOL
I didn't say ANYTHING about his name "pal". I'm simply lazy and typed his initials. If I would've typed BO, you would've called me a raci$t for implying he has body odor... You people are never happy. You tell us what he should be called and we'll think about it.

""Please explain to all of us how their getting married would negatively affect, in any way, your marriage.""
Did I say it would?
It may, in fact affect the way my daughter sees things, "why does Suzie have two moms/dads?". You know, the kids that your party loves to hate so much? As a matter of fact, my aunt is gay and I did NOT say anything against it. I said "it's not for me", so get over yourself. I don't understand what the pro-gayers want from us straight people. Do you want a notarized statement saying we don't have a problem with it? Oh I get it, you can't accept that we accept it, so keep accusing us of homophobia to guilt us into submission... Kind of like the race thing... If we all accept that we're equal, you lose your argument.

""Yeah, you're a xenophobe. That means that the subtext of your 'illegal immigrants' argument....is bigotry against 'the other'.""

So you're a mind reader too? WOW I want to be JUST like you... I don't know if it's even worth my time explaining it but, just because I think people should FOLLOW THE LAW when entering this country doesn't make me a bigot... But you can keep calling me what you think I am, whatever...

""please stop pretending like you're not the party of open bigotry, thanks.""

LOL
After all the bigotry crap spewing from Obama's mouth, please, spare us the soapbox speech....

""You need to get a clue. Blundered intelligence? That's rich. They broke a slew of Federal Laws when they outed Plame.""

Libby lied to a grand jury. That's the "slew" of federal laws you speak of?

""Please stop defending bald-faced outright treason against the United States, thanks. It makes you look....well, less than patriotic.""

You mean like aid and comfort to the enemy? Kind of like the liberal Dems in congress accusing and judging our military of crimes that they were eventually acquitted of? You mean wishing openly for defeat? You mean constantly telling the enemy what we're doing and how we're doing it? You mean trying to block any legislation that would help win the war?

I'm not defending that at all... Are you?

Posted by: achak | August 23, 2008 12:41 PM

Congrats President McCain!! "Xerox" Joe represents change? What a joke! ob has shot himself in the foot!

Posted by: Jimbo | August 23, 2008 12:40 PM

Biden,

Another socialist, bent on remaking America into a truly facist nanny state; everyone is a victim; no one can do anything by themselves; everyone needs a gov. employee to tell them how to live their life; redistribute the wealth; entitlements, tax tax tax...truly pathetic choice.

Posted by: Free Man | August 23, 2008 12:39 PM

The Clintons are ecstatic over Obama's pick of "Jawbone" Biden as his VP. A man who can speak eloquently ad-nauseam while saying absolutely nothing. The McCain camp will certainly exploit Biden's former prolific praise of McCain; his multiple assertions that Obama was not sufficiently experienced to assume the Presidency; and, who correctly noted that the White House was not the proper venue for Obama's: "On-The-Job-Training". The Clinton's, astute in the way of politics, will simply re-enforce their base of supporters in preparation for a now certain '08 bid. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | August 23, 2008 12:38 PM

You know the BEST part about the Obama/Biden ticket???

We in Delaware FINALLY got rid of Joe!!!

Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: DelawareNative | August 23, 2008 12:37 PM

"Bob: The reason you see so many GOP posts here is because we're elated that Obama picked Joe Biden as VP - it means McCain will be our next POTUS!"

No, the reason there are so many GOP posts here is that Drudge is linking to this story, and Republicans are a lot like lemmings. Just point them at a cliff, and watch them plummet.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 12:35 PM

Biden is a very experienced man who knows the system well. Until he was included on the Obama ticket his concerns were Obama's lack of experience and not having the necessary qualifications. Therefore, as a registered democratic, I'll cast my vote for McCain.

Posted by: Cindy | August 23, 2008 12:32 PM

What CFR stands for? Can some one help?

Posted by: What is CFR | August 23, 2008 12:27 PM

And now the truth comes out: All the Obama rhetoric was never anything other than a way to get an old white man with tragically low approval ratings into the White House under the cover of someone else. Gee something really new, Sneaky Good Old boy v Honest Good Old boy: Election 2008

Posted by: jdcarmine | August 23, 2008 12:26 PM

Republicans and terrorists; birds of the same feather. Both feed on fear. Without the threat, they're truly nothing.

Actually, worse than nothing. Nothing would be less expensive. Nothing wouldn't be so loudly and falsely convinced of its righteousness.

Keep hyping threats. Keep going with your little protection racket. Keep trying to sell fear, because (newsflash) nobody's buying.

GOP, thy legacy is ignominy.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 12:24 PM

Bob: The reason you see so many GOP posts here is because we're elated that Obama picked Joe Biden as VP - it means McCain will be our next POTUS!

Posted by: Angela5 | August 23, 2008 12:23 PM

I can't believe they have a ticket with the initials B. O.

Posted by: Lee | August 23, 2008 12:23 PM

Vote "NoBama/NoBiden"
so Hills can run in '12

Posted by: Bill Hussein Clinton | August 23, 2008 12:22 PM

Just noticed all the GOP posts here - that's a good thing. It means Biden has some bite against McCain. The McCain folks posting here can earn double points on their GOP rewards program today. If they pose as Hillary supporters they get triple points. What a deal!

Posted by: Bob | August 23, 2008 12:20 PM

WIZARD OF OZ TICKET - O'Bama/Biden

Given that O'Bama can't speak without a teleprompter and Biden can't write his own speeches..Shouldn't this be called this the Wizard of Oz ticket?

O'Bama says he'll bring change. Is this like change in a jar on your dresser? Give us substance!

Posted by: Pat Mabooty | August 23, 2008 12:18 PM

Look - if Obama had chosen Jesus as his running mate, McCain's cronies would find fault. I can see the ad now - "He looks like a foreigner, can't trust foreigners." I like the pick - it blends older and new, change and experience, and maybe PA too. The evangelicals aren't going to vote for Obama anyway, and Biden fits the bill. It also quells the Hillary wave before it starts next week.

Posted by: Bob | August 23, 2008 12:17 PM

Now my vote will be against 2 low life elitist liberals. Sad that the is no one to vote FOR.

Posted by: lwayne | August 23, 2008 12:17 PM

AAAAAHH HA HA HA HAAA! BIDEN! What a joke! He's not "change," he's not going to deliver a crucial state, he's not going to bring in bales of money from well-established connections, he's an old wrinkly white guy with a knack for shooting off dreadful off-the-hip comments. Way to go, O! Now if McCain just doesn't make a similarly awful pick...

Posted by: HypnoToad | August 23, 2008 12:14 PM

Oh my god.

The Dems come through with a politically suicidal choice. It is basically over now. Biden is a nutcake and many Americans know it. He had a nervous breakdown in the late '90s. They guy is a complete putz. Congratulations Sen. McCain.

Posted by: Snarky | August 23, 2008 12:14 PM

Romney graduated from the Cranbrook School in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan in 1965[6] and earned a perfect score on his SAT.
Subsequently, Romney attended Brigham Young University, where he graduated as valedictorian, earning his Bachelor of Arts degree summa cum laude in 1971.
In 1975, Romney graduated from a joint Juris Doctor/Master of Business Administration program coordinated between Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School. He graduated cum laude from the law school and was named a Baker Scholar for graduating in the top five percent of his business school class.[9]


MCCAIN/ROMNEY 08!

Posted by: Angela5 | August 23, 2008 12:14 PM

Joe Diaz had a great post at 8:35 am.

Posted by: shorty | August 23, 2008 12:12 PM

"PJ 451 - Dale, I'm not wwearing jannies, I'm in bed with your mon"

Typical liberal who can't keep quiet about getting some. How was your first time with a woman PJ451, Will you be switching?

Posted by: joe | August 23, 2008 12:12 PM

The facts do not support the notion that McCain "did not know how many homes HE owned." Here's why dummies. The Money, THE properties, the investments, etc....BELONG TO CINDY MCCAIN...beer heiress. She even files separate tax returns. Get your facts right about the obvious. McCain is damn glad his wife is taking care of these homes. Oh, and by the way, some of these houses are for taking care of their own relatives. They take care of their own! Unlike Barack's Kenyan brother living on a dollar a day in a shack!

Posted by: jordan77 | August 23, 2008 12:09 PM

Very interesting!
One of Biden's grandfathers was an oil company salesman.
The other was an errand boy.
Yep! He's fully qualified as Obama's Veep choice.

Posted by: Jskar | August 23, 2008 12:05 PM

To borrow from a famous lib bumper sticker, "Obama is not the answer." P.S. neither is Biden.

Hey Joe, the original author is calling. He wants his original thought back.

Signed,
Your Term Paper.

Posted by: shorty | August 23, 2008 12:04 PM

Nobody cares what you think because your philosophy is an unqualified failure. Nobody cares what you think because you support the worst President in the history of the nation. Nobody cares what you think because you're genetically incapable of admitting that you've done wrong.

"You mean YOU right? BHO and his supporters are the race players."

No, I mean YOU. You're little BHO thing doesn't work either. Apparently, most of the country is OK with the idea that his middle name is Arabic. YOU'RE the one baiting race, pal.

"I don't know, not for me, I married a woman, is it working for you?"

I have a lot of friends that are gay. I'm sure you do, too. Please explain to all of us how their getting married would negatively affect, in any way, your marriage. Thanks.

"You mean "illegal" immigrants right? I love the way you people like to leave out a key word like "illegal".

Yeah, you're a xenophobe. That means that the subtext of your 'illegal immigrants' argument....is bigotry against 'the other'. That fear rears its ugly head with you people again, and again, and again. I think we all understand that about Republicans...please stop pretending like you're not the party of open bigotry, thanks.

"Yeah Bush started terrorism..."

You mean...he plays on fear for political advantage? I would agree. He does.

"OR perhaps they were outed because of the blundered intelligence before 9/11... But that makes no sense, so I guess you're right..."

You need to get a clue. Blundered intelligence? That's rich. They broke a slew of Federal Laws when they outed Plame. Please stop defending bald-faced outright treason against the United States, thanks. It makes you look....well, less than patriotic.


Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 12:03 PM

Obama in 2004 to represent me as my US Senator) Obama promised 2 things when he was running for Senator. 1. He would curtail illegal immigration.
2. He would decrease taxes.

Results:

Since he has been Senator our Illegal immigration is through the roof. In fact if your an illegal immigrant in the state of Illinois you can now have free health care. Of course us middle class folks are paying for it.

Secondly our taxes have gone up. In fact presently we pay some of the highest taxes in the country not to mention our state gas taxes are the highest in the country.

Bottom Line:
If Obama couldn't change these things in Illinois as he promised us how on earth could he change these things in the remaining 49 states.
He fooled us Illinois folks!

Posted by: donbuytaert | August 23, 2008 11:59 AM

So, now what will we hear? For weeks we've been hearing liberals whining about McCain being an old white guy and more recently about how many bathrooms McCain's wife owns. lol...So, I suppose liberals will now be claiming their old white guy candidate is not as old as our white guy candidate and our old white guy candidate owns fewer bathrooms than their old white guy candidate! lol

Mansions, investments, $500 shoes, compounds, etc.. Class envy rears it's ugly head once again in our great land of opportunity. What a great country.

That said, I now have to go mow the lawn at the Sigmond Compound.

Posted by: Sigmond | August 23, 2008 11:59 AM

"What is CFR?"

Here is the Google of CRF:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cfr&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Look at the YouTube entry at the bottom...

Posted by: Dale | August 23, 2008 11:58 AM

Hey Obama, it's the ECONOMY stupid!

MCCAIN/ROMNEY 08!!

Posted by: Angela5 | August 23, 2008 11:58 AM

WTF is the CFR?

Posted by: Lost | August 23, 2008 11:53 AM

I heard that since we are playing strategic politics, that McCain is goint to pick Clinton as his running mate
McCain/Clinton 08

Posted by: Old Surfer Dude | August 23, 2008 11:53 AM

Biden . . . would anybody like to contribute to the Rush Hannity Red Bull Fund because they'll have to expand to 24 hours/day for the next 70+ days to get in all the gaffs Jo-Jo is responsible for. Then the election will have to be postponed so they can cover from now until the original election day.

From "Change and Hope" to "Status Quo with a Dope."

Posted by: LL in La | August 23, 2008 11:52 AM

pj451...

Should have signed that last one. My mistake.

And, the last forty years of my life has been the best since she tossed me out on my A%%.

So go ahead and make yourself comfortable.

Posted by: Dale | August 23, 2008 11:51 AM

"Nobody cares what you think about it."

Typical lib mentality.

"Race...clearly isn't working for you."
You mean YOU right? BHO and his supporters are the race players.

"Gay marriage...that's not working for you either."
I don't know, not for me, I married a woman, is it working for you?

"Maybe you should start demonizing immigrants again."

You mean "illegal" immigrants right? I love the way you people like to leave out a key word like "illegal".

"You've buggered the economy..."
Yeah repubs are responsible for the housing crash - oh wait, I remember some kind of legislation about lenders being forced to lend money to "underprivileged" people. Well then, the repubs are the reason for high gas prices - oh wait, I remember some kind of legislation about forcing the use of ethanol in gasoline that drove the prices of food and gas to the moon...

"gotten us in to a two-front war, tortured people,"
Yeah Bush started terrorism... And nobody should be paraded around with underwear on their head. That's just downright torture... Don't our soldiers get beheaded, burnt to a crisp and hung from bridges if we get caught by the enemy?

"outed our intelligence professionals for nothing more than politics,"
OR perhaps they were outed because of the blundered intelligence before 9/11... But that makes no sense, so I guess you're right...

Funny how the BHO people are the only ones allowed to say what the "issues" are suppose to be... The issues are what ALL the American people decide they are. Not just you. But as you stated, "nobody cares what you think" is a window into the liberal soul.

Posted by: achak | August 23, 2008 11:51 AM

I would love to see a real brawl on the convention floor btw the Clintonites and the Obamacans. I don't mean a rhetorical brawl either, but a real one using fists and signs as weapons, with bloody beatdowns and bloodier retailiation. The Dems deserve it.

"The Clintons are going to be pissed. They will raise all holy hell at the convention. Gonna be ugly. The Dems just self destructed.

Posted by: Smack Water Jack | August 23, 2008 9:14 AM "

Posted by: Andrew P | August 23, 2008 11:48 AM

Apparently, Republicans have never heard Romney debate. He's a HAIRDOO. Like Edwards, but without a brain.

Pleeeeeeeeze nominate Mitt. Pleeeeeease do it!!!!

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:48 AM

On issues Obama is in trouble:

You cannot dismiss Obama's infanticide votes as GOP talking points. Obama did prevent a bill from coming to the floor that copied a federal bill that passed 98-0. This is major baggage, and should have killed Obama in the primary (even a democrat primary). Democrats and their idiot msm allies did not properly vet obama (because he was black). The gop is not going to do the same, because they want to win. Born Alive is a very leigt issue. If I were pro-choice, I would not want my arguments polluted by a guy who does not provide rights to a breathing fetus outside the womb.

Obama has other problems with associations. William Ayers and Tony Rezko present problems. As does his tire gauge comparison to oil exploration. In normal times a gop candidate would be toast come Nov. Instead the dems are facing a landslide defeat!

Posted by: Larryw | August 23, 2008 11:46 AM

McCain should announce his VP pick SOON (i.e., in the next 48 hours)... particularly if the pick is Romney. Nothing would highlight the contrast between the tickets -- in judgment and experience -- better than that. Mitt will slap Joe around like a little schoolgirl in the debates.

Posted by: Kent | August 23, 2008 11:46 AM

Bill, it isn't 'talked about' because it's patently false. You know, like most of your beliefs...

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:39 AM

The same folks who are making hay over McCain and his married-into wealth were all a-twitter 4 years ago when it was Kerry/Edwards -- two of the wealthiest candidates to ever seek public office.

When will you people realize that class warfare is a losing strategy? This is America, where EVERYONE dreams of being wealthy and ANYONE can achieve that dream.

Only in America can we even have these conversations.

Posted by: Kent | August 23, 2008 11:37 AM

Is Obama really a US citizen? Did they ever clear up the thing with his birth certificate? Didn't it lack the correct stamp, and resemble something forged? Also, he was an Indonesian citizen, albeit for a short time when he was a boy, but he was one. Why isn't that talked about?

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 11:36 AM

What a great choice Obama has made !!!
He has given the Mcain campaign a gift
I can't wait to see all the campaign commercials showing Biden critizing Obama for lack of credentials and experience
After all he did say in reference to Obama
that the presidency is one that does not lends itself to on the job training

Posted by: JJ | August 23, 2008 11:36 AM

Can't wait for the Romney, Biden debate... I will be better then the two nit wits running for President. Romney will clean his liberal clock.

Posted by: TessTexas | August 23, 2008 11:34 AM

Joe Biden reminds me of Jim Breur's SNL character from the early 90's (late 80's?) Goat Boy. Like Biden, Goat Boy would be having a press conference and all of a sudden go into a bleating fit: WAAAA!!!, and begin chewing on the furniture. His handlers would then use cattle prods to shock him back into coherence, something which the Dems should consider, perhaps for both candidates.

Posted by: Ron | August 23, 2008 11:33 AM

I had hope for Obama. He seemed smart, articulate, and above politics. And the fact that he's black led me to believe he could bridge divided interest groups. Winning a majority of party delegates and the Democratic party nomination gave me reassurance that America is beyond racial politics.

But Obama's disappointed me over the past year. He's inarticulate without a teleprompter and the novelty of his speaking style wears thin quickly. OK, I tell myself, look beyond style for the substance. It's apparent Obama's socialist view of the world is very different from mine. His convictions are malleable and his policies would be a disaster for this country and for freedom in the world.

Obama's just not ready for prime time and his policies would be disasterous. I can't help but wonder if he and Michelle decided to run for the presidency primarily as a means to elevate Obama's political stature. But they underestimated the racial guilt and affirmative action paradigm that Americans, especially the younger generations, have been indoctrinated with. So, to their surprise, they began to gain traction in the primaries, eventually securing the Democratic nomination. Now they've surrounded themselves with establishment socialists and blood sport warriors who live for the battle, all the while trying to ride the media whirlwind and making it up as they go along.

The 3:00am text message idea was stupid and petty. So much for building bridges with Hillary supporters.

I've finally reached the conclusion that I need to vote for McCain, not because I'm a fan of McCain, but because he's much less likely to screw up our country and will help preserve freedom in the world.

Posted by: Hopeful cynic | August 23, 2008 11:31 AM

Obama and Biden are the number one and number three most liberal Senators. They are both radicals. The American people like middle of the road candidates and not extremists. Obama will never be elected and this choice for VP doesn't help his cause at all.

Posted by: Cory | August 23, 2008 11:31 AM


Abortion is not, as an issue, going to win you the election. Nobody cares what you think about it. We all know what you think about it.

As a matter of fact, none of your old stand-by socially divisive issues are going to work. Race...clearly isn't working for you. Gay marriage...that's not working for you either.

Maybe you should start demonizing immigrants again. Maybe you should gin up another terror threat. Maybe you should scream 'class warfare', even though you're possessed of little to no class.

You've buggered the economy, gotten us in to a two-front war, tortured people, outed our intelligence professionals for nothing more than politics, and wrecked our standing in the world.

That's your legacy.

Stop pretending like it's not. I hope you're proud of what you've done over the last seven years, because nobody else is.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:28 AM

The Obamessiah picked Biden because he's such a clean, articulate candidate. Every day the great Obama shows himself to be just another old school politician. He sells out on every major issue just to try for quick easy votes and now he picks an ensconced 36-year career Senator who's a part of the entrenched aristocracy. There's no change here Obamabots, just more politics as usual except now it's coming from an empty-suit rookie and a gaffe-prone career politician.

McCain: The Right Stuff, Obama: The Wright Stuff

Posted by: DaisyCutter | August 23, 2008 11:28 AM

Forget it. I have tried to show you how the CFR is in controll and you people are too stupid to pay attention.

You deserve whoever gets elected in '08.

Either way, it will be CFR who wins so don't cry when nothing changes....
Go Obama! Go McCain! GO CFR!!!!!!
America chose a CFR Member in '08. idiots.

Posted by: Good Luck | August 23, 2008 11:28 AM

Dale, I'm not wearing wearing jammies, I'm naked in bed with your mom.

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 11:27 AM

I see the Obama haters are out in force this morning. One thing about Biden: He knows exactly how many houses he owns.

The only people who seem to not hate Obama are the ones who know next to nothing about him, other than the fact that his is young and black. Hence 90% of blacks back him simply because of that. And many ignorant young heads full of mush. I believe that you do not even own a home. You rent. Vote Obama and rent for the rest of your life. Vote McCain and maybe someday you can buy your own.

Posted by: FullofitnProud | August 23, 2008 11:27 AM

I was hoping he would pick Biden...(I am supporting McCain). In general vp's add very little to a campaign. The two things a party wants in a nominee are (1) a guy who won't detract from the ticker (2) a guy who can energize the base (vp is one element that is the future of the party (except in the case of cheney who never showed an interes in becoming president)

Biden fails both tests! Firs he is a blabber mouth who has has foot in the mouth disease. Second the guy is not the future he is the past with two very unsuccessful runs for president.

A better choice would have been bayh. If Bayh were on the ticket he puts a solid red state in play.

Lastly what Biden does is tell the world that Obama IS INEXPERIENCED the main stream media will hurt Obama by syaing how great it is that obama now has a guy with all this experience. This narrative will hurt obama because it amplifies how weak Obama is. While its no secret Obama is over his head or to quote him in a different context the job is over his pay grade, its not wise to make this even more obvious!

This give McCain an opportunity to pick a fresh candidate. Someone like Sara Palin would be perfect while she doesn't have as much experience she will be getting it on the job...this is fine because vp's are about the future.

Obama struck out...in three weeks when the dust settles from both conventions, look for McCain to begin his march towards a landslide!

Posted by: larry w | August 23, 2008 11:27 AM

Obama bin Biden

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 11:26 AM

Obama is black, which definitely qualifies him to be president. Granted that he only has 2 years of actual Senate experience, at least he is black. That makes him the best candidate.

Seriously, I can't not find one good reason to vote for him other than him being black. If this country was so obsessed with voting for a woman or a different shade of skin we should have at least picked one with a little substance...

Posted by: Magneto | August 23, 2008 11:25 AM

Broadsword, did you not see what I wrote.

WAKE UP MAN.

Both parties SUCK!

Posted by: Divided we are falling. | August 23, 2008 11:23 AM

pj451= Major Troll...

Go put your jammies on and get back in bed.

Posted by: Dale | August 23, 2008 11:23 AM

You know, it always hurts when country club Republicans accuse us of being limousine liberals. It hurts because hypocrisy is hard to stomach.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:21 AM

STOP.

STOP fighting Republicans and Democrats!

WAKE UP! Can't you see that the party designations are a cover?

Both parties are controlled by the CFR!
Whoever wins in '08 will be a CFR member.

Only YOU think there is a difference between McCain or Obama, Bush or Clinton.

But the whitehouse has been controlled by the CFR since Kennedy's death. CFR will control the whitehouse untill 2012 now.

STOP FIGHTING AND WAKE UP!

Posted by: Divided we are falling | August 23, 2008 11:20 AM

Obama is pro-killing babies too

Posted by: SteveGlansburg | August 23, 2008 11:20 AM

""Infanticide. Really. Do supporters of the GOP ever have anything that resembles original thought, or do they just reflexively parrot talking points?""

You're right, it wasn't MY idea. I'm sorry if you don't see infanticide as a bad thing. I'm sure you would rather talk about Bush sending our kids to die rather than BHO voting to let our kids die after botched abortions...

The only difference is the military kids volunteer, but infants don't have a say in whether they live or die.

That's ok though, just sweep it under the rug along with all the other stuff about BHO and watch your party get defeated yet again by a weak repub...

Free choice...
How about "choose" to wear a rubber? How about "choose" to abort ASAP instead of waiting until it's possible for the baby to survive? How about "choosing" to think before you act?

Posted by: achak | August 23, 2008 11:19 AM

In the primaries, the GOP turned out 19 million voters.

The Democrats turned out 37 million voters.

The GOP is going to lose, and I don't think most of their die-hards realize by how much.

NEWSFLASH FOR REPUBLICANS: The Nation, and the world at large....are sick to death of you.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:19 AM

It's funny when you hear people saying that since McCain is wealthy he is out of touch with mainstream Americans. When Barack Obama can support letting a baby who…

* has survived an abortion attempt
* is outside the mothers womb
* is breathing on it's owns
* is surrounded by adults who have sworn to save human lives

…be left alone die. He is not just out of touch with mainstream america he is out of touch with his basic humanity!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 11:19 AM

I understand that Hillary's supporters are upset. I do. But, how can it be seriously & repeatedly said that she would have been a better VP choice, based on experience alone? She has only been an elected official, on her own account, since January 2001.

I voted for Bill Clinton both times for President. I believe Hillary's intentions for America are pure. However, please put your understandable frustrations aside, vote Democratic for the common good, and help reclaim the White House for the first time since the disaster of 2000.

Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: shannon | August 23, 2008 11:18 AM

When Biden first got in the Senate Obama was blowing down on coke according to his very own autobiography.

Hilarious.

Posted by: SteveGlansburg | August 23, 2008 11:18 AM

Of all the duds Obama could choose,he chose the worst. I was waiting to be electrified by his choice for change and we get someone who has been in the Senate longer than McCain. How is this change one could believe in. Biden voted for the war and then wanted to divide Iraq into three parts. What wisdom!I do hope Biden won't plaga rize his acceptance speech!

Posted by: messine | August 23, 2008 11:17 AM

For you hatemongering Obamaniacs making fun of McCain's wife owning various condominiums and homes, quit playing your ignorant class warfare card and apply some of your supposed "nuance" to this issue.

Couldn't it be whether it was his lack of knowledge or whether it was to dodge the question until he really knew the answer, it may be the case possessions and money means very little to McCain ... unlike people like the Clintons.

Don't forget, the Obamas are filthy rich by any middle-class American's definition, and this arrogant empty suit is such a tightwad that after meeting his bona fide half-brother in Kenya who lives on a buck a month, Obamessiah essentially told him be warmed, be filled, and left him empty handed. Nothing more worthless than a rich man who won't even share his wealth with his own flesh and blood.

Reminds me of the time when al Gore, as a calculated campaign tactic, whined about how the government and Social Security wasn't taking care of his elderly mother! Well, Mr. Goracle, you're filthy rich too and shouldn't you be taking care of your own mother! That's the thing about liberals, they believe that nanny government has the responsibility to feather their own nests. But what the government gives the government can take away. Liberals always seem to define their "compassion" by how much they can empower the federal government to levy confiscatory taxes on the rest of us to pay for the immoral welfare state. It's a government charity system pure and simple and can only operate through an extremely immoral form of state-sanctioned coercion. Pathetic collectivist fascists!

Posted by: Hankmeister | August 23, 2008 11:17 AM

mtobias1 wrote:
It's about the economy, stupid.
Who, NOW, is the elitist, out of touch with the people?
How could you not get it?
Very many people aare suffering the incredibly bad management of the last seven years, and are struggling with the ECONOMY, stupid.


Geez, why the anger and name calling?
And what does Cindy's owning multiple homes have to do with someone who may be facing forclosure? Wealth is not redistributed in this country ... yet.

Elitism is a mindset, it's an attitude, a belief that you're smarter/more superior to the "average Joe" in middle America because you graduated form an Ivy League school or can speak multiple languages, for example. Wealth alone does not make someone an elitist.

As for being "out of touch," when has McCain shown he's "out of touch" with people? Many can relate to his military background. Obama, on the other hand, has demonstrated his inability to connect time and time again. “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula? I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff,” said Obama during a campaign stop in Iowa, where, incidentally, not one Whole Foods operates. Remember his comment at a San Fran fundraiser when he talked about bitter Americans clinging to guns and their religion? That's out of touch. Seizing every opportunity to make the USA look bad is the most egregious example of his being out of touch - sorry DC libs, the majority of Americans believe this is the greatest country on Earth. Just two days ago, in Virginia, he compared the US war in Iraq to Russia's invasion of Georgia - sorry, the two were vastly different (maybe Biden can explain that to him). That same day, he praised China's "infrastructure" and said "their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a coporation deciding where to do business you're starting to think, Beijing looks like a pretty good option." Really, China does? Child labor laws and pollution aside, right? And as for infrastructure, remember the earthquake earlier this year that killed nearly 70,000 b/c of the poor infrastructure??

He's completely out of touch.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 11:16 AM

If the McCain people wish to dwell on nonsense and not on the issues, then so be it:

Issues to include McCain complicity with the NVA during his confinement should be brought up. How was it that McCain bailed out over Hanoi and landed in the lake downtown when bombing Hanoi was off limits. The word is that he was just "lost". Is it true that McCain was in the BOTTOM of his class, the 5% of the bottom. McCain never attended grad school past his time at Annopolis. Isn't true that McCain SAT test scores would of cancelled an appointment to Annopolis had not his father stepped in to help the kid.

Moving forward..the issue of the houses, how he abandoned his first wife after she waited for him while McCain was in prison.

Of the the Keating situation...or the Renzi connection (Congressman Renzi...alledly McCain's "best" friend in Arizona who has been indicted.

If moving from the issues and the plan to put this country back together after Bush et al are not what the Republican Party and the Rove type, then let the games begin..and let every blogger, every news program begin to really examine the McCain of today...

Posted by: Overseas | August 23, 2008 11:15 AM

BROADSWORD...No offense but you need a wake up call.

Obama/Biden, Mccain and his VP, Bush and Clinton are ALL members of the CFR.

That is why America keeps getting worse regardless of either party.

Biden and McCain have been sitting in Washington for decades and have changed NOTHING. FACT: Biden and McCain voted for the IRAQ war. CFR has you thinking there is a difference and all the while CFR won in '08.

Clinton, Biden, Obama, McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Bush are ALL members of CFR.

Want to know 2 NON CFR members:
Ron Paul and John F. Kennedy.

I guess if your not CFR you don't stand a chance. That is why whoever wins in November will NOT change a thing! They are in power and we are the slaves. period.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 11:15 AM

Dear Washington Post,

If only you had applied the same level of scrutiny and spin against the titanic idiot that currently holds the office. If only you'd done actual reporting on the claims that led us to war. If only...

Please stop trying to act like you have a whit of credibility left. It's getting embarrassing for you. Your desperation to maintain the failed status quo is sad.

Pathetic, in fact.

Posted by: Unbelieveable | August 23, 2008 11:15 AM

How fun, two northeastern ultra-liberals on the Democratic Ticket! Biden does nothing to win a single electoral vote. The Clintonites are still angry, the Blue Dogs are sulking, the libs are dancing and the Young Democrats are confused. There's not a shred of unity. With this ticket, I predict McCain by a landslide....He'll take it with the evangelicals, pro-life catholics, "angry white men" and elderly voters.... because they always show up on election day.

Posted by: spikeaus | August 23, 2008 11:14 AM

Just remember folks, what goes around, comes around. If McCain does not pick a SAFE pick like Pawlenty, then it will be his turn to roasted by his VP pick like some of you infants are doing. Biden is a good, solid choice. Senator Obama was darn if he do, darn if he doesn't. If he picked someone like Sebeillus or Kaine, the McCain camp would have come out the the inexperience talk. He picks Biden and they "claim" it goes against his campaign of change. How? Elaborate.

I still cannot believe there are people who keep brining up the Clinton mess. It has been two months, you are still licking your wounds? When are you going to act adult like? When are you goig to get over YOURSELVES? So to you McCain is the answer right? He actually represents the vision and plans that Senator Clinton has for the country right or has her vision and plans changed? Does she want to stay in Iraq indefinitely? She may want to drill now, drill here, drill every where like McCain just like she supported his gas tax holiday idea (pandering). Who knows? Her brother was meeting with the enemies camp recently so . . .

Bottom-line, when Senator McCain makes his VP pick, it better not be someone he ran against because clips of that person can be brought up too attacking McCain, especially Mitt, the lier, Romney. If you were watching the republican debates you know what I mean. Hint: His view ponits he made in 1994 on men and women serving in the military.

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 23, 2008 11:13 AM

Reposting especially for those who may have missed it...(i.e. Hayden1 etc.)Prefaced with this additional comment. "As a conservative who really is concerned about the future of our country for those that come after us...including my three grandsons...the 'pause' for a chuckle or two...or maybe even three...eases the 'weight' of what we ALL have to decide ...come November...It's a different 'ball game' folks!!!...since 9/11...stop being a
being a 'ME' citizen ...Be a 'WE' citizen!
All the blood and treasure given with honor and patriotic duty to our beloved country so we can ALL keep our freedoms should be remembered!"

*The ringmaster steps up to the microphone*

"Ladies,gentlemen...and those not quite sure! Welcome to our show!"

*chuckles*

"Now that we've teased you with all our other clown acts...let me present to you for your entertainment in our center ring"

*gestures to the sawdust covered ring as drums roll and trumpets blare*

"Back from his overseas tour... Bumbling Barack and his new sidekick...Biden Buffoon ...guaranteed to make you laugh until your sides hurt!"

Posted by: Anomalie | August 23, 2008 11:12 AM

Broadsword,
A McCain landslide has now been secured. Your guy should have picked a white woman.
I will remind you of this post in November.

Posted by: viejo1 | August 23, 2008 11:11 AM

HAYDEN!, you are wrong.

He will pick a CFR member.

WHat is CFR? GET EDUCATED!

Read some comments about the CFR below...

Posted by: YOUR STUPID | August 23, 2008 11:06 AM

------------------
Ummmmm OK....Anything you say...
YOUR STUPID.....unfortunate handle...I am not going there.

Now back to some serious stuff

Cry GOP cry Whaaaaaaaaa!

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 11:11 AM

McCain never said "I don't know how many house I own", he said "I'll let my staff get back to you on that". Why? Because he didn't want to talk about it. He figured it would do more damage to say that he was very rich (which, for some reason is a bad thing...). This plan backfired, obviously, but I'm just trying to clear up this "scandal".

Posted by: luke | August 23, 2008 11:11 AM

Infanticide. Really. Do supporters of the GOP ever have anything that resembles original thought, or do they just reflexively parrot talking points?

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:10 AM

Awesome. We get to run against a 'family values' guy that left his first wife on her sick bed for a younger, hotter, richer model. We get to run against a multi-millionaire that thinks there's nothing wrong with the economy. We get to run against people who transparently foment foreign policy crises for short-term domestic political advantage (you know, like in Georgia...and Iraq). We get to run against people who torture people to death in the name of freedom. We get to run against the morally and philosophically bankrupt GOP.

Excellent, excellent, excellent!!!

Prepare to be thrown unceremoniously out of office, across the nation. Prepare for 40 years in the desert. Prepare for your comeuppance, because man, it's coming.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:08 AM

Has to upset Comrade Obama supporters that he is behind in the polls now. All the help from the media, his European tour, playing the race card and yet he is going down in the polls. Not to mention his negatives are going up every month. Poor guy. Guess we will have to wait for the Communist revolution.

Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2008 11:07 AM

I know Clinton supporter. Clinton supporters are my friends. And all of them support Obama for better or worse. The people purporting to be Clinton supporters here are actually John Mc10houses lackies.

Keep up your crying you wailing dummies..keep it coming...keep it coming Repubs

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 11:07 AM

Mr 57 states doesn’t even have the ba!!s to confront poor senile McCain in a town hall meeting, much less be pres…
Follow sheep, follow….. Baaaa baaaa baaaa baaaa…

LOL

Speaking of forgetting….
Forget the anti-white/anti-American church, forget Rezko, forget how cold or hot you should be allowed to set your thermostat, forget how much you’re allowed to eat and drive, forget about a hateful wife, forget about turning historical speeches into “whites should pay reparations”, forget about Ayers, forget about Farrakhan, forget about how BHO and the Dems treated Hillary (modern day lynching), forget about calling Bill (remember the “first black president”?) a raci$t, forget about dissing the troops, forget about bombing Pakistan, forget about meeting with Iran with no conditions, forget about disarming our military, forget about the forgotten half-brother, forget about the endorsement from our enemies for BHO, I don’t have time to list all the other sh!t to forget.

BUT one thing about BHO that cannot be forgotten or forgiven…
INFANTICIDE…..

Oooops… Are we allowed to talk about that?

Posted by: achak | August 23, 2008 11:07 AM

HAYDEN!, you are wrong.

He will pick a CFR member.

WHat is CFR? GET EDUCATED!

Read some comments about the CFR below...

Posted by: YOUR STUPID | August 23, 2008 11:06 AM

As someone who would NEVER vote for a Democrat, I love the Biden choice!

Posted by: Jason | August 23, 2008 11:05 AM

Democrats forMcCain akaClinton'12
C Clinton'12

CcCcccClinton1e
'K 12 '12

Posted by: scott | August 23, 2008 11:04 AM

The CFR has you bickering about Republican vs Democrat.

WAKE UP!

Biden has 36 years and changed nothing;
McCain has 20 years and changed nothing.

THE CFR IS IN CONTROL. The parties are designed to keep you in the dark.

Obama/Biden, McCain and his VP, Bush and Clinton are ALL members of CFR. CFR wins America LOSES!

Posted by: YOU IDIOTS | August 23, 2008 11:04 AM

No one loves Biden more than Biden, except Obama. Will the convention stage in Denver be big enough for two such over-inflated egos? We will certainly need the "jaws of life" to fit the two into the White House.

Today my prayers are for the American People.

Posted by: Marlis | August 23, 2008 11:04 AM

BooHoooHoooo Cry you Republicans ....Cry!
John Mc10houses will pick a butt-licking yes man for VP

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 11:04 AM

Biden makes sense as Obama's choice not only for political reasons but also for reasons of effective governance, overcoming the gridlock that has afflicted us in recent years.

Of course a decent Congress matters immeasurably too if we are to mitigate the problems we face.

Posted by: First Mouse | August 23, 2008 11:02 AM


Whaaaaa! Look Obama picked Biden! Whaaaa
Keep crying Republican morons

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 11:01 AM

That thudding sound you hear is McCain's campaign smacking in to the floor like a crashed F4 Phantom. That laughter is the reaction of a nation listening to Republicans argue that they're right, and that we 'just don't get it'. That gasp was the reaction of a country just being told that our economy has sound fundamentals by a guy with seven houses and a corporate jet.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 11:01 AM

I feel bad for either Obama or McCain supporters.

Little do they know that both Obama and Mccain along with Bush and Clinton are ALL members of the CFR!

You lose this election and CFR wins!

Here are 2 names of politicians that never became CFR members: Kennedy and Ron Paul!
They never had a chance cause CFR is in CONTROL! WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: CFR ALERT | August 23, 2008 10:59 AM

Get a load of all the Republican cry babies posting here. Drop dead suckers

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 10:59 AM

Winston Smith posted: "That deep sigh of relief you hear is every McCain supporter exhaling. That slurping sound you hear is the RNC salivating at the prospect of having a gaffe-machine like Biden to train its sights upon this fall. That choking sound you hear is the DNC performing their every-four-years ritual of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. And that shrill chuckle you hear is HillaryNation gleefully gearing up to challenge McCain in 2012."

*grins and chuckles*
"Would you like some cotton candy and a slupree whilst you enjoy the circus too?"

Posted by: Anomalie | August 23, 2008 10:58 AM

How many "wives" you sleep with John Mc10Houses?

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 10:58 AM

How many embarrassing gaffes will issue from the lips of Joe Biden between now and election day?

Even if Biden had the lowest gaffe per sentence ratio in American political history, given his love of the sound of his own voice I estimate that there will be at least three.

The man makes Hubert Humphrey look like the soul of verbal brevity.

Posted by: OfficerMancuso | August 23, 2008 10:56 AM

This is fun. Watch the Post continue to shill for the GOP. Watch the GOP scramble like the gang of amoral, philosophically bankrupt corrupt cockroaches they are.

Watching you lose is fun. I wonder; is there anything that Dems can do that you won't incorrectly label as a bad maneuver?

November 4th, Obama takes the Presidency in a landslide. Republicans bleat that winning is no way to win.

Posted by: broadsword | August 23, 2008 10:56 AM

The worse form of plagiarism the last 8 years of the Bush/Cheney Presidency. Now we have the same team Rove/Schmit trying to bring us a 3 rd Bush Term in McCain/Bush/Cheney!

Time for a change!

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Eagle nas gadooshu | August 23, 2008 10:54 AM

That deep sigh of relief you hear is every McCain supporter exhaling. That slurping sound you hear is the RNC salivating at the prospect of having a gaffe-machine like Biden to train its sights upon this fall. That choking sound you hear is the DNC performing their every-four-years ritual of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. And that shrill chuckle you hear is HillaryNation gleefully gearing up to challenge McCain in 2012.

Posted by: Winston Smith | August 23, 2008 10:54 AM

I think Joe Biden is a poor choice for VP. The problem is the Democrats do not have any strong candidates for VP.

Hillary was never really an option. The negatives against her were way too strong. Having her on the ticket would have energized the Republicans big time.

John Edwards might have been an acceptable choice, except for his recent scandal and not telling the truth about his love child.

Sam Nunn has a great deal of experience in foreign policy and would have been the best choice but he has been out of the public eye for too long. Most of the younger voters would not remember him.

Posted by: Ron C | August 23, 2008 10:50 AM

Obama, Mccain, Clinton, Edwards, Biden, Romney, Huckabee, Kucinich, and Bush are ALL members of the CFR!

Ron Paul is not. Want change: write in Ron Paul. Or get a CFR member and no change. Kennedy was not a CFR member and I think I see a pattern whereby nonCFR members don't stand a chance.

Posted by: CFR WON IN '08 | August 23, 2008 10:50 AM

*The ringmaster steps up to the microphone*

"Ladies,gentlemen...and those not quite sure! Welcome to our show!"

*chuckles*

"Now that we've teased you with all our other clown acts...let me present to you for your entertainment in our center ring"

*gestures to the sawdust covered ring as drums roll and trumpets blare*

"Back from his overseas tour... Bumbling Barack and his new sidekick...Biden Buffoon ...guaranteed to make you laugh until your sides hurt!"

Posted by: Anomalie | August 23, 2008 10:49 AM

The worse form of plagiarism the last 8 years of the Bush/Cheney Presidency. Now we have the same team Rove/Schmit trying to bring us a 3 rd Bush Term in McCain/Bush/Cheney!

Time for a change!

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Yei Raven | August 23, 2008 10:48 AM

I don't know if any of you realize how childish you sound on here. I don't want any of you, liberal or conservative, voting this November. Assigning the candidates petty nicknames does not help get your point across; it just diminishes your post. It would be nice to be able to read thoughtful criticism and commentary on articles like this. Instead, anyone who finishes this article and happens upon the comments below will be treated to mind-numbing, depressing, and hateful attacks upon anyone and everyone. I hope you are all under the voting age, because the quality of your posts would peg most of you around 8 or 9.

Posted by: Ben | August 23, 2008 10:47 AM

CFR

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

DON'T KNOW WHAT CFR IS????GET EDUCATED!

We need a depression to save America....

CFR is in CONTROL....btw Kennedy was NOT a CFR member and you see how long he lasted.

Posted by: WAKE UP TO THE CFR | August 23, 2008 10:47 AM

To all Clinton fans, those who are for or againt abortion,and religious fanatics... listen up!

To choose a candidate for color, race, religion or just one stance is idiotic! SO GET OVER IT.

I am a military veteran of over 14 years I have served and fought for the country. I am black, educated and Republican. However I am voting of a Democrat this year.

That being said just because I am black I know even when I placed my life in harms way for my country some of you would not allow me in your house for a cup or water. Then abortion, God gives up choices to choose and we have to live with the results so back off.

Clinton was the right person for our country, right she is in debt and should have seen the writing on the wall but her ego and you OWE me this is what killed her at the polls.

Enough Said. Facts are facts!

Posted by: Ryan | August 23, 2008 10:46 AM

To all of the female commenters stating they wil not vote for
Obama because he did not pick Hilary. As a 50+ feminist, I talk the talk and walk the walk. Quit your whining and proving the stereotype of women that men want to believe ... that you are too vindictive and catty to THINK, that you are too WEAK to take responsiblity, that you are TOO petty and emotional to hold high office. Clinton lost the primaries becuase she ahd a poor strategy ... It was NOT everyone's fault but hers. Any woman that calls themself a feminist and then votes for McCain deserves the @ss kicking the GOP will hand them once in office when they continue to reduce funding for education, overturn Roe, and privatize social security -- OH and reinstituting the draft so the US has the forces to fight all McCain's wars.

Posted by: cheryl | August 23, 2008 10:46 AM

GOOD for NOBama, for making a choice that will surely guarantee that BO, will not be our next President. With an enemy like BIDEN, he does not need any friends. Biden has been one of Obamas most outspoken critic. What got into those Vetter's. Well OBama made the choice, now one can see the choices he would have made if president. Unbelievable!!!!! THanks, Obama for making the choice that will bring you down a few more notches.....

Posted by: CMhinsley | August 23, 2008 10:43 AM

My money was on Abama exhuming the body of Joe Stalin for VP... this still counts, right?

Posted by: Bollah | August 23, 2008 10:43 AM

PJ, do you have anything real to say or do you just keep popping off with your bi-polar commentary? You're a d-bag. Enough said.
Aspergirl, way to combat lib rantings with actual facts...they usually don't know what to do with that because they're so used to calling you names...right PJ? "Well... you're a _______!(hompphobe, racist, etc...)"
Anyway, this childish move just shows how petty the "messiah" is. He should be careful in angering the Clinton Machine, especially when he's handed over the entire pot-smoking, homeless free Lib convention to them...
I can't wait to see what racial comment Biden makes next that is under rug swept by the "messiah's" faithful followers in the MSM.
Who was it that has the popcorn? I'll take salt and butter please! This is gonna be good.

Posted by: HappyConservative | August 23, 2008 10:43 AM

Whether it is satire or truth, some of the posts here are pure trash. There is one thing for sure, God knows the truth, a truth which seems to be lacking in many of the posts here. I am also glad that God gives second chances. However, stupidity is very difficult to overcome. I am referring to the type of stupidity that does not know what car one has or how many houses one has. I am referring to the stupidity that does not know that Iraq does not share a border with Afghanistan, especially when you have visited that region as many times as MCCain says that he has. It kind of begs the credibility issue.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 9:50 AM

And we're talking about the stupidity of 57 US states! And he lives here. Geesh.

Posted by: ihatestupidity | August 23, 2008 10:42 AM

What a genius: he just lost his message of change, and he also lost us Clinton supporters. This guy is a disaster. I'll be staying home in November.

Posted by: Bob | August 23, 2008 10:41 AM

Isn't this the same Joe Biden that got thrown out of the presidential race in 1988 when he got caught plagerizing a British politian speech? I believe after that he was caught lying on his resume and found out he also plagerized in college. Once a PHONY always a PHONY! NOTE: At age 65 he just had hair plugs put in a little VAINNNNNNNNNNN HMMMMMMMM

Posted by: Lippy | August 23, 2008 10:40 AM

Obama just loves to humiliate the Clintons. He is shortsighted and egotistical. I am no longer a Democrat.

Posted by: Sara | August 23, 2008 10:39 AM

So much for CHANGE...Biden has 36 years as a CAREER politician and hasn't changed a damn thing.

Know what group won this election? CFR

Obama, Biden, Mccain and McCains VP are all members of the CFR. CFR must be lucky or in CONTROL. I am writing in Ron Paul the ONLY non-CFR member running for president!

Posted by: NON CFR member | August 23, 2008 10:39 AM

Both of these "NITWITS" are legends in their own minds. They now can double team the electorate when they tell us how great they are. Omama a year or 2 and no accomplishments. Biden 36 years and no accomplishments but hair plugs.

Posted by: Oliver | August 23, 2008 10:38 AM

It's a shame all this Biden news is now overshadowing how Democrat operatives are shielding John Edwards' love child from the media stage. I really want to see John Edwards admit he fathered a beautiful baby girl for the sake of the baby girl. In this modern day and age it is reasonable children should know who their birth parents are.

Posted by: Sunny in Calif | August 23, 2008 10:38 AM

Chris in VA writes:

"For you McCain critics who are pouncing on this bit about McCain's houses, I've got to ask: what's the big deal? I mean, the guy and his wife are filthy rich. So what? Are you seriously suggesting that it makes someone more qualified to be President if they don't have a pot to pee in? Your criticisms make no sense to me."

It's about the economy, stupid.
Who, NOW, is the elitist, out of touch with the people?
How could you not get it?
Very many people aare suffering the incredibly bad management of the last seven years, and are struggling with the ECONOMY, stupid.

Posted by: mtobias1 | August 23, 2008 10:38 AM

The Democratic party is finished. Obama and his supporters lack common sense. If Obama wanted experience, he would have chosen Hillary.

Posted by: Jack | August 23, 2008 10:38 AM

When the initial reports hit that Obama had chosen Bayh as his running mate, I was actually hurt inside. I know Evan, he's a good man, and I didn't want to see him tarnished by this campaign.

Now that it's Biden - Biden, I feel much releived. Don't get me wrong - I'm not a McCain supporter because of who he is. I'm a conservative Republican, which McCain is not.

On the one hand, Obama cannot make an intelligent comment without a teleprompter and a prepared speech. He's a great orator - he's just not fast on his feet thinking. Biden is a great plagarist - I remember history, and he's exactly the establishment that Obama has said he'd change.

On the other hand, I can't help but think that this has been manipulated behind the scenes by the Clintons so that Hillary will have a shot in 2012. Waiting until 2016 would be too long for her. Let McCain win this time - he'll be too old in 2012 to be effective, and then she can come in to fill the void.

There's no hiding the fact that people with lots of money have multiple homes - it's common knowledge and unless you really WANT to push class warfare, it's not a big deal. So Cindy owns 8 or 10 homes - she's got the money to spend, good for her because she's still got to pay property tax on those homes. And guess what - it's not like ANY of them are right next door to the convicted felon that manipulated things so she could buy them.

Posted by: Carl from Indiana | August 23, 2008 10:38 AM

You guys are funny. We have critical issues to contend with right here at home and on the world stage yet all you can do is resort to childish name calling and party bashing. At this pace we won't solve a single thing and we'll be right back here every four years going through the same charade just as we have been for decades.

Posted by: Phil | August 23, 2008 10:37 AM

My question to Obama how mamy HUTS do your relative own? The story about his step brother living in a hut in Nairobi Africa will ruin my NFL games this year. I'll be thinking about his poor brother everytime the quarterback goes Hut Hut Hut. If you were amillionaire and a Us Senator would you leave a blood relative living in a Hut without a toilet? HMMMMMMMMMMMM

Posted by: Lippy | August 23, 2008 10:36 AM

Just to remind everyone with short memories why McCain is the WRONG choice for America...unless you support flipflopping, ethics-challenged, skate-up-to-the-line-of-legality-and-maybe-cross-it old geezers who have NO claim to understand or be part of average American life:

http://mccainkeatingfive.com/

Spread the word.

Posted by: Dean | August 23, 2008 10:36 AM

reverse roe vs wadw here's my take...I want to vote for the best man for president but I'm anti abortion as I'm sure there are pro abortion people who won't vote for some candidates just because of this issue. the president and the national congress and senate should represent all of us so they need to concentrate on jobs national defense healthcare etc things for all the people. this abortion thing keeps us devided let each state decide like gambling if they want to allow this horrible practice not the federal government.

Posted by: bigmonkey | August 23, 2008 10:36 AM

henleybw - I don't think the point is that he is rich. So he is rich. Good for him. The point is that he is so out of touch with the problems of regular people. You have to admit it is pretty stunning to not even KNOW how many houses you own. He either gets dinged for being rich and out of touch or just senile. I for one think it is more the latter but who knows.

The fact is that Obama is a man born into a lower economic household who pulled himself up by his bootstraps. He is a self-made man. McCain was born into wealth and has been willing to do anything to maintain his wealthy lifestyle. John Keating 5 McCain even left his wife while she was sick so he could marry his rich mistress.

McCain is not a good example of hard working self-made American. Even Republicans will see this as the campaign moves forward and many Republicans get over the black issue.


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I hope I get rich enough to buy my family homes, have investment properties, and have several vacations homes. The rest of you Liberals can live off Obama's welfare payments

Posted by: henleybw | August 23, 2008 10:29 AM

Posted by: Robert | August 23, 2008 10:36 AM

Wow, Obama is totally sexist. Apparentloy experience is good if your a man, but if your Hillary, experience makes you a corrupt witch. Obama will pay in November: millions of Clinton supporters will now vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mary | August 23, 2008 10:35 AM

The Republicans are mongers. That's all they are now. Peddlers.

Really. What ever happened to good old campaigns of style and substance?

All it is now is grotesque. It was kind of interesting when it started in the 1990's, but it doing damage to our country now.

We need a break from this grotesque mongering.

To all you people who are peddling fear, all I can say is we have spent a Trillion dollars so far for the mongering.

It has not been a surge. It has been a splurge.

Get a grip on your anger issues.

Posted by: KokoMike | August 23, 2008 10:33 AM

Great Senator, good thinker.
Will be a good complement to the ticket.
GREAT CHOICE!

Heard a funny story where Mr. McCain's brother was trying to give a reason why he would not know how many houses he has. Seems all of the McCain men never kept the finances and left it to the women. They never know about their own economies.

Posted by: mtobias1 | August 23, 2008 10:33 AM

Obama is very petty. If experience was what he wanted, he could have picked Clinton. I will never vote for Obama after this insult.

Posted by: Jane | August 23, 2008 10:33 AM

For you McCain critics who are pouncing on this bit about McCain's houses, I've got to ask: what's the big deal? I mean, the guy and his wife are filthy rich. So what? Are you seriously suggesting that it makes someone more qualified to be President if they don't have a pot to pee in? Your criticisms make no sense to me.

Posted by: Chris in VA | August 23, 2008 10:33 AM

I am not a McCain guy I do think he is the wrong choice for the Republicans but his timing is right. Obama will lose I feared he might pick Hillary and pull it out.

Posted by: T | August 23, 2008 10:32 AM

KokoMike -- Do you really believe that Democrats aren't engaging in smear tactics??? The most recent example being the commercial about "McCain's" seven homes (none of which he owns). What did that have to do with any important issue facing this county? Last poll that I checked, shaming owners of multiple homes was not an issue listed as one that Americans were concerned about going into this election. So clearly, this was just a low blow attack at McCain. Probably b/c Obama is still smarting from his awful performance at Saddleback.

Did Cindy get some sweetheart mortgage deals - a la Chris Dodd - on these homes? Was Cindy involved in some sleazy Rezko-like quid pro quo when purchasing these properties? No. Those ads were below the belt - and factually inaccurate, since McCain is not the owner, and Cindy owns more than 7 ... And Obama talks about McCain shooting from the hip - he can't even get his facts straight before releasing an ad.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 10:31 AM

I hope I get rich enough to buy my family homes, have investment properties, and have several vacations homes. The rest of you Liberals can live off Obama's welfare payments

Posted by: henleybw | August 23, 2008 10:29 AM

LOL, I am extremely happy. Short of picking my favorite Colin Powell, this was my next choice. Why, because he speaks his mind also compared to him, McCain has not experience expecially in Foreign Affairs. In fact, everything that he used against Obama is not a mute point! LOL

The best McCain can do is pick Romney, however that is MUTED because no matter the president the economy will take years to fully correct and adjust itself. LOL

McCain your final nail on the coffin has been hit! LOL

I am a Republican and I love this, WE picked a dud in McCain. Republicans knew we would lose this year and Mc-Stupid is the fall-guy and is too blinded by his ego to see it. This is rich! LOL

Posted by: Ryan | August 23, 2008 10:26 AM

Posted by: noone | August 23, 2008 10:26 AM

This my friends is the response of a typical Republican:

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A known communist muslim and a proven plagarist. That is Democrat party for you. Too bad Republic prty has been co-opted by zio-nazis and will lose to the kook and spo....
Posted by: jim bob | August 23, 2008 10:18 AM
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This is why the sane majority of this country is leaving the Republican part in droves. The majority of Americans are freedom loving, patriotic and intelligent. Unfortunately the Republican party is increasingly controlled by hate-filled, war mongering, bigoted idiots like this guy. This is why they lost the Congress. This is why John McCain will lose. Thanks jim bob for making the point for me.


Posted by: Bill JustBill | August 23, 2008 10:26 AM

Biden is a real smart guy, just ask him.
Since the Presidents first job is to keep the country safe, seems to me he ought to have a clue about how to do that and not have to defer to the veep...picking Biden simply shows the voters who aren't Kool-aid drinkers that obama isn't ready for prime time..Having a video of your veep prospect telling the world you aren't qualified ain't the smartest move..just when I thought he couldn't get any dumber with his snub of clintoon, he picks Biden....another gift to JSM.

Posted by: Seawolf | August 23, 2008 10:26 AM

The NYTimes.com has an interesting article on Cindy and John McCain today.
The house count is up to 10
It also speaks about the mob ties of the Hensley business, shady tax things and of course, Cindy's charity. Did you know that she stole the narcotics for her personal use from the kids charity? I didn't know that. But 'you gotta keep your sense of humor' right John?

McCain Romney? That will be some sport.

Posted by: mtobias1 | August 23, 2008 10:24 AM

Once again, McCain shows his lack of judgement and memory. As I recall, he said something about running on issues, not smears. McCain is pathetic. I think his medical records should be opened so we can see his mental state as well as his alleged "War wounds"

Posted by: Raul the puppet | August 23, 2008 10:23 AM

I see the Obama haters are out in force this morning. One thing about Biden: He knows exactly how many houses he owns.

Posted by: Patrick | August 23, 2008 10:23 AM

Why would any one vote for McCain over Obama some of you ask. Try avoiding a European style Socialist country some of you freedom hating, self reliant hating, America hating Liberals. Good enough reason for some of you. It is for me!

Posted by: henleybw | August 23, 2008 10:22 AM

In terms of governing effectively, Joe Biden is a great choice for VP. He knows how to work the Senate, and he's been chairman of the Foreign Relations and Judiciary committees,so he's got strong policy credentials. Those attributes should be a big help to President Obama in getting his change agenda through Congress.

Posted by: Patrick | August 23, 2008 10:21 AM

Empty head and big mouth. Time for Hillary supporters to step up in Denver, she it at least electable.

Posted by: T_E_X | August 23, 2008 10:21 AM

"Let's face it, when the top Republicans have wealth that puts them in the top 0.0001%, why should they even bother to talk sense to the peons."

What a load of dung...

Are you saying the tops Dems are poor? Like say... the Kennedy's????

This whole idea that the Dems "represent the poor" by being from humble means is the biggest nonsense ever perpetrated on the American voter.

If you go around spouting that stuff, you sounds like an idiot. Like right now.

Posted by: Brad | August 23, 2008 10:19 AM

POSTED BY EARL: When will the Republicans start talking about issues, not personalities?

Funny you should say that Earl, Obama's entire campaign has been nothing but propaganda and personality driven. Obama is an empty suit without any true convictions or ideals. He has the largest paid campaign staff in Presidential history, with over 300 foreign policy advisors alone. That means he can't think on his own, he can't talk on his own, and he has no convictions he can actually stand firm on, because he has moved at lightning speed on every one of his positions. And the voters know it, McCain is now up by 5 points in the latest Reuters/Zogby poll. But if you want to talk about issues here we go: McCain wants to make Bush tax cuts permanent and lower them more as well as the corporate tax rate, Obama is going to literally raise every tax in the book; McCain energy plan is "All of the Above" drill, nuclear, invest in wind solar and geothermal as well as hydrogen, Obama says no to all of it and insists we can just inflate our tires; McCain wants to remove government beuracracy so the free market can drive down medical costs, Obama wants to Socialize it which always makes everything worse; McCain will nominate someone to the Supreme Court if they follow the Constitution the way it is written, Obama said at Saddleback he will only nominate someone who is liberal and legislates from the bench; McCain is pro-life, Obama supports infanticide; McCain thinks when it comes to foreign policy we need to be tough and act in America's best interest, Obama believes in appeasement and is constantly harping about what a bad place America is. So there are just a few issues in which McCain's stance aligns with the majority of voters in this country. Looks bad for Obuma.

Posted by: Brandon | August 23, 2008 10:19 AM

A known communist muslim and a proven plagarist. That is Democrat party for you. Too bad Republic prty has been co-opted by zio-nazis and will lose to the kook and spo....

Posted by: jim bob | August 23, 2008 10:18 AM

Hey Proud - There is no need for you to post. If we want to know what you think, we'll listen to that drug-addled bigot on the radio.

Posted by: Bill JustBill | August 23, 2008 10:17 AM

I've had it with the Republican smear campaigns. I am an Independent. I believe the Republican smear campaigns have done more damage to the USA than anything over the past 8 years. It is grotesque. McCain is going to hang his hat on smear jobs. We need to show him the way back to Arizona so he can live out his life as an American hero instead of screwing up our country.

Posted by: KokoMike | August 23, 2008 10:15 AM

An extremely bad day for the Barcky Hussein Obama campaign.

After all this time and wait, he chooses a man (Joe Biden) with the personality of a "dead fish" - and that is putting it mildly.

I can't believe that Baracky Hussein Obama did not even consider Hillary Clinton.

I can only assume that he believes that he has the women's vote locked up.

I hope that all Hispanic voters realize, that they will be at the bottom of the barrel if Baracky Hussein Obama is elected in November. He will have to pacify the black electorate after receiving 99 % of their vote.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: Gary | August 23, 2008 10:15 AM

I love the 'McCain nine car motorcade to Starbucks for a cappucino story'. I guess since it was not a latte, it was not 'elitism'. McCain and Romney? That will be pretty funny too.

Posted by: mtobias | August 23, 2008 10:15 AM

Al. You're an idiot. Go back to your moonshine.

Posted by: Bill JustBill | August 23, 2008 10:13 AM

Well if Barry wins I guess the red phone that might ring at 3 am will be moved from the white house (will Barry change the name back to the Executive mansion?)to the VP residence.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 10:13 AM

Where in the world is Sredona, AZ?

Posted by: Daniel | August 23, 2008 10:12 AM

Come on Democrats. You have to admit this is a poor choice by Obama. I am, admittedly, a conservative. But I am no fan of McCain and am waiting to see who he picks. I was half-hoping Obama would have the sense to pick a Kaine, or a Bayh, or even Hillary. To me, Biden was the worst pick on the short-list, both from a tactical and practical perspective. For those of us who were already concerned about Obama's judgment and readiness to lead, this choice only adds fuel to that fire. If McCain picks Mitt Romney, this election is over for Obama.

Posted by: Kent | August 23, 2008 10:12 AM

I can't believe it--Rush Limbaugh announced how much he hopes Obama picks Biden, and Obama listened!

How good for McCain!

Posted by: Todd | August 23, 2008 10:11 AM

Obviously Anonymous has his righties and lefties confused.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 10:08 AM

Now you have a guy as VP who is more qualified to be president then Mccain

-------------
Osama Bin Biden!

WTF!?!

Obama must have had his aid make the choice for him like he let his aid complete Senate Questionaires on Gun Control, among other Senate Questionaires.

Look an article from the NY TIMES 1988!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE5D61139F930A25752C0A96E948260

Obama must have been smoking crack at 3 AM when he had his aid send the text!

Obama is an idiot! 2 Plagerists make a Landslide Victory for the Republicans!

McChange/Romney 08'
Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCon! | August 23, 2008 10:03 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 10:07 AM

"But McCain has to be careful. He has served in the Senate
alongside Biden for more than two decades, a fact that Democrats are
certain to point out."

Why does McCain have to be careful?

In your own words, "Obama has been running against Washington, saying that the people
there like McCain are the problem that needs to be fixed. McCain can
argue that by choosing Biden, Obama abandons that case."

McCain is not the one running on an anti-Washington message.

Biden was elected to the Senate at age 30. He has no military experience, his foreign policy experience is from serving as a senator.

And Biden voted to authorize the war in Iraq. Kind of neuters that anti-war message as well, doesn't it?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 10:06 AM

Bill JustBill,
And then you folks wonder where the "elitist" label comes from...because someone doesn't think like you they must be hillbillies or hicks?

You might want venture away from your little burrow there with the narrow view of the world and see how great a place this diverse country is...it's a beautiful place with incredible people. Really, it is...

BTW - If you'll try to smile every now and again, I'm sure you'll start to beat the perpetually angry thing you all seem to have.

Have a great day!

Sincerely,
Cigar Smokin', Hummer-Drivin', Red Meat Eatin', Flag Wavin', Ditto-head.


-------------
We thank God you are not a Democrat too! With such a brain trust as you supporting him, McAncient is sure to win the illiterate, perpetually intoxicated, redneck, I-married-my-cousin crowd vote such as yourself. That is, if you can sober up and get someone to read the paper for you so you can drive your beverly hillbilly truck to the polling place you backwardsass country hick.

Posted by: Proud Hillbillies and Hicks | August 23, 2008 10:05 AM

Dave,

Biden makes more sense in one minute than McCain makes all day. But then, John McCain can deny that he has said anything, something that he does on a regular basis. He agreed with the lady who suggested the draft. I heard it with my own ears. Then the Republican dodge machine goes into action again to refute that McCain agreed with the lady.

When will the Republicans start talking about issues, not personalities? Ans: As long as the foolish American public will vote based on personalities rather than issues, ping on the personalities. Therefore, the Repubicans will keep politics in the realm of allegation, character assassination, and lies. There is no real need to discuss the issues at any great depth because they believe that the American people are beneath them. Let's face it, when the top Republicans have wealth that puts them in the top 0.0001%, why should they even bother to talk sense to the peons.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 10:04 AM

If Obama chose someone like McCain (Biden a Washington insider with a wealth of foreign policy experience and a direct talker) over someone like him (Kaine new, younger, pro-change, inexperienced and a soft talker) what does that say about how he believes voters should choose when it counts!

Posted by: TREx | August 23, 2008 10:04 AM

Osama Bin Biden!

WTF!?!

Obama must have had his aid make the choice for him like he let his aid complete Senate Questionaires on Gun Control, among other Senate Questionaires.

Look an article from the NY TIMES 1988!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE5D61139F930A25752C0A96E948260

Obama must have been smoking crack at 3 AM when he had his aid send the text!

Obama is an idiot! 2 Plagerists make a Landslide Victory for the Republicans!

McChange/Romney 08'

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCon! | August 23, 2008 10:03 AM

Does the author mean Biden said something negative about Obama this month, or last Aug.? That would be helpful to clarify

Posted by: Brendan | August 23, 2008 10:03 AM

I guess he is better choice than Edwards. Biden will help secure the Red State Vote with a Senator that is more like the NE? Those with hair plugs will vote for Biden. That gives him 350 votes. He already knows Obama is an empty suit, look at his comments about Obama learning on the job. Best of all Biden is in the same "cannot help keep his foot, leg and arm out of his mouth" just like Rev Wright. Obama's choice may take the focus away from Michelle. I was sweating the Gov from Indiana as a choice that would pull HRC supporters back to Obama. OBAMA REALLY GAVE THE SHAFT TO HILLARY AND BILL. He will regret the day he played the race card with Bill, even if Bill deserved it.
The only thing Republicans have to fear is the Democrats not making the wrong decision every time they have the upper hand.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: hcallaway | August 23, 2008 10:03 AM

Let's see Obama was against NAFTA, now he wants to expand it into South America; he was in favor of the DC gun ban, until the Supreme Court overturned it now he opposes gun bans; the Bush tax cuts were evil and only for the rich, now they're not so bad and he wants to make them permanent; one day Iran was a tiny country that posed no threat to America, the next day Obama apparently had been saying for years Iran was a grave threat; Jerusalem should remain undivided capital of Israel when he's in front of a Jewish audience; when he's in front of Muslim audience the Palestinians and the Jews should negotiate on their own; he was against offshore drilling, now says he may support it; he was going to accept public financing, then decided not to; told McCain he would debate him anytime anywhere, when McCain tried to set up non traditional debates with Obama he refused (the Saddleback Church forum proves why, Obama is awful without a prepared script); said he would go after anyone who used his wife as campaign material, then makes ad using McCain's wife as material. Folks even Jeremiah Wright said he was saying whatever he had to in order to win votes. There is no change here it is the same old politics as usual. The only change we will be left with after an Obama presidency will be the change in our pockets.

PS Did anyone see the New York Times the Magazine article where Obama agreed with Warren Buffet's economic idea of "tax the heck out of people and then redistribute it on the back end." Obama said this idea had merit. He also compared America to Russia and China yesterday and in both cases found America to be the bad guy. What in the hell is he doing running for President of this country? We would have been better off with Hillary at this point!

Posted by: Brandon | August 23, 2008 10:02 AM

What a team of question marks.

First, you have B. Hussein Obumma Chamberlain, an unqualified Communist taught rookie. Yes, slick and smooth talking but unqualified with NO track record of any success. None!

Second, we now have a boring, run of the mill (D) plagiarist, Biden. A confirmed, admitted PLAGIARIST for second banana. How bad is that?

This choice reflects the rookie's horrible lack of perspective and lack of skill in decision making (without a teleprompter). Thank you Caroline Kennedy, another counter productive choice by the (D)emolition team. She was an obsequious (D)ecision by B. Hussein Obumma Chamberlain that just blew up in his face.

McCain could not ask for more.

Chef Mike,
Tampa


PS: Speaking of "boring, run of the mill", I am reminded of the phony B. Hussein Obumma Chamberlain "house flap" of earlier this week.

Question: does John McCain have a brother living in a squalid shanty town, who has been shoved out of sight by his big brother? I can tell you who does. (I'm not sure if his brother owns his own cardboard box house or not or, if he is entrenched in rabid capitalism and has more then one.)

The more we know of B. Hussein Obumma Chamberlain, the more we don't want to know.

Posted by: Chef Mike | August 23, 2008 10:02 AM

Video of John McDraft saying one thing then reversing it 2 days later, multiple times, is all Obama needs. John McBushy is John McToasty.

Posted by: CoolBreeze | August 23, 2008 9:58 AM

Is this the wapo site or koskids.com or democratunderground? Most of the posts are sophomoric insults Lefties & libs are truly a particularly unhappy & mean bunch.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:57 AM

POSTED BY SUSAN: "And if you become asperpregnant and don't want to be, tough, because you won't be able to do anything about it."

The whole abortion thing is outdated as a wedge issue.

If Roe v. Wade is overturned, all that means is that people in some states will have to travel to other states that are "free" and "medical privacy" states. If you have access to the Internet (like, at the local library), and a few hundred bucks, anyone can handle that. Hello, this is not 1979, where people live in local wells of isolation, cut off from access to resources and information.

The whole abortion debate thing is not working out for Democrats anymore, which is precisely why Pelosi is welcoming anti-abortion Dems into the ranks and working to get them elected.

It's not 1979, anymore.

The Democrats have used the abortion debate to hold women hostage in the party, without really doing anything meaningful for them, for decades. This last wage lawsuit thing was just an election year grandstand after Clinton was discriminated against so badly.

It's so bizarre that Obama supporters keep trying to cram a racial preference candidate down the throats of Clinton supporters, after a hyper-sexist primary season, using abortion arguments that are no longer really relevant.

Republicans are not nearly as hypocritical and looney as Dems are. The Republican party is looking more and more attractive to this former Clinton supporter, every day.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 9:57 AM

Biden is probably a smart pick; should gain Obama some experience-credibility from older, more "conserative" dems, while not losing anyone (most angry Hillary supporters aren't going to Obama anyway). Shame of it is that Obama has decided that in order to change "politics as usual," he can only ensure his election by employing perhaps the most prominent Washington insider there is. Accordingly, he has forfeited one of the more exciting aspects of his campaign.

Posted by: max | August 23, 2008 9:56 AM

With a moniker like "Bonehead28," comments are superfluous.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 9:56 AM

I'm happy about this decision. It makes sense. Although it has been said on this blog that Biden's not done anything, I think his experience on the Judiciary Committee and Foreign Relations Committee will be a solid foreign policy foundation -- the thing that Obama is criticized of being inexperienced in. All else is irrelevant. To naysayers who think that Biden is just another face from Washington, I challenge you to come up with a prominent, experienced candidate who is not a tool in Washington. Being a member of this notably imperfect political system is how you get the "experience" that McCain supporters so dearly cherish about their candidate.

Posted by: ess. | August 23, 2008 9:55 AM

Earl C -

If you want stupidity and trash go listen to Joe Biden speak.

Posted by: Dave | August 23, 2008 9:54 AM

Katz says that Biden acts like a rabid dog. I would love to have his description of Cheney, the pompous *ss with the foul mouth. While Katz is at it, perhaps he can give an appropriate description of our current commander in chief, you know the guy who hides behind the nearest general.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 9:54 AM

Obama, in two speeches has downgraded our country to the likes of China and Russia..Mybe he should run for their borders...does this sound like a person whi ''loves '' his country?
and people want him to be president, where has common sense gone?

Posted by: cheadr7169 | August 23, 2008 9:54 AM

Osama Bin Biden!

WTF!?!

Obama must have had his aid make the choice for him like he let his aid complete Senate Questionaires on Gun Control, among other Senate Questionaires.

Look an article from the NY TIMES 1988!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE5D61139F930A25752C0A96E948260

Obama must have been smoking crack at 3 AM when he had his aid send the text!

Obama is an idiot! 2 Plagerists make a Landslide Victory for the Republicans!

McChange/Romney 08'

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCon! | August 23, 2008 9:53 AM

I'm shocked McCain doesn't like Obama's choice! Ironically, Joe Biden is sort of the Democratic equivalent of John McCain. It's like McCain secretly hates himself.

Posted by: Dave | August 23, 2008 9:51 AM

Obama,what a nit wit, McCain will have so much ammo for his attack adds now. Obama rambles his jargon and Biden will constantly put his foot in his mouth. I'm going to really enjoy watching the dems convention laughing my rear off.

defeat socialism!

Posted by: Bonehead28 | August 23, 2008 9:51 AM

Whether it is satire or truth, some of the posts here are pure trash. There is one thing for sure, God knows the truth, a truth which seems to be lacking in many of the posts here. I am also glad that God gives second chances. However, stupidity is very difficult to overcome. I am referring to the type of stupidity that does not know what car one has or how many houses one has. I am referring to the stupidity that does not know that Iraq does not share a border with Afghanistan, especially when you have visited that region as many times as MCCain says that he has. It kind of begs the credibility issue.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 9:50 AM

How delicious! The agent of change has added a bloated establishment liberal to his ticket. This is good because I think Biden acts like a rabid dog much of the time, so it will be fun to watch. Both these two have precious little time in the private sector, so they are equally matched in that regard, but Obama can't find anyone with a resume as thin as his, can he?

Posted by: KATZ | August 23, 2008 9:50 AM

This is Obama reporting to duty with my apprentice Biden who BTW has 10 times more experience than me :-)

- A McCain Democrat

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:50 AM

So much for Obama's entire campaign of being against the war from the beginning. Guess what? Biden voted with McCain and supported Bush going to war in Iraq. Also so much for the "politics of the future" and "change", Bidens been in the Senate longer than McCain has!!! In Joe Biden's own words talking about Obama "the Presidency doesn't lend itself to on the job training."

Posted by: Brandon | August 23, 2008 9:50 AM

Don't be fooled!

Say NO to Hussein Obama!

Vote McCain in 2008!

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:48 AM

I'm a Hillary supporter that will certainly vote for Obama in November...I had no idea he hated Hillary that much..That 3:00AM text message was a dagger in her heart...I don't understand it, is this Obama's way of bringing the party together??..You have to hand it to Hillary, she praised his selection (I'm sure her supporters won't)..I'm going to support the ticket, but I just keep thinking, Biden couldn't win a delagate during the primary and, lets see, how many delagates did Hillary win??...I hope if he becomes president, his decisions are a little better...

Posted by: dbaragona | August 23, 2008 9:47 AM

>>jchris_66 wrote: "The "Big O" has just sealed victory for the Republicans in November. Two gas-bags on the same ticket won't do."

Biden is, as some people earlier this campaign season noted, what an old Obama would be. An aging hyperverbal, spouting blowhard, but with more knowledge and facts than he had as a young man.

Obama managed to pick the only really experienced Democrat who is about as full of hot air as he is.

It's a good match on a personal level in terms of their infatuation with hearing themselves speak.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 9:47 AM

POSTED BY SUSAN: And if you become asperpregnant and don't want to be, tough, because you won't be able to do anything about it.And if you have an asperjob, don't try to get equal pay, because your candidate says no.

Don't liberals realize that if someone doesn't want to become pregnant then they can use condoms or birth control or just not have sex at all. Why should a baby not get the inalienable right to life that is handed down from God and promised in our Constitution? Do you know at the moment of conception a baby has the DNA that it will have for the rest of it's life. Also after just 6 weeks (before many women even know that they're pregnant)the baby has all of it's vital organs. By the way Obama supports infanticide, which goes way beyond supporting abortion rights. Even NARAL opposes Obama's views on children not receiving medical treatment after surviving a late term abortion. About the equal pay thing. Do you not realize that there have been laws on the books for decades stating men and women should receive equal pay. If our do-nothing Congress tried to pass another one recently then it was for nothing more than political expediency. The law is there, they should not be wasting their time on another one.

Posted by: Brandon | August 23, 2008 9:47 AM

"The One" will get his convention bounce in the polls and libs everywhere will be skipping down the street super confident that they are onto victory. It will be priceless to watch. Then the Republicans will have their convention taking the shine off of Obama/Biden. Then a week or two later when "The Big O" compares the U.S. unfavorably to another communist country or when Biden makes some stupid statement libs will realize they are screwed. Enjoy the good feelings now libs, it won't last. Remember, you lost to Bush twice! That can't instill confidence.

Posted by: jchris_66 | August 23, 2008 9:46 AM

Pj451 needs to get a life. I know, I know. It's touch when your cult leader Obama makes such a huge mistake like he has...picking Biden. You are angry and taking it out here. Get over it and used to the fact that JOHN McCAIN will be President. You'll be at peace.

Posted by: Jim | August 23, 2008 9:46 AM

Biden is a feel good story. It shows that anyone who gets C's and D's in college and plagiarizes papers can be a vice president.

Posted by: Dave | August 23, 2008 9:46 AM

Gotta run posters, I've really enjoyed posting like a republican this morning, but I must go shower it off, it really does leave a foul smell on the body.

GOBAMABIDEN!!!

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:44 AM

Hey PJ, can you see your tonsils with your head lodged so deep in your rectum? What's that like?

Posted by: Gimme'a'break | August 23, 2008 9:44 AM

Good job obama. you could have won.

Posted by: American Abroad | August 23, 2008 9:43 AM

pick mitt

Posted by: bigmonkey | August 23, 2008 9:43 AM

>>Susan wrote: "To Aspergirl: I hope you don't have any asperkids, because they're off to war! And if you become asperpregnant and don't want to be, tough, because you won't be able to do anything about it. And if you have an asperjob, don't try to get equal pay, because your candidate says no."

I hope you're McHappy with having to live in the McReal McWorld where people have to McWork for a McLiving and not tax people like McMe, who worked hard in school and got a real degree.

I don't like Obama's vacuous "hope" rhetoric combined with channeling Jimmy Carter's high-tax stagflation economics and combining that further with redistribution of wealth ideas. Clinton was the best way to bring Democratic party principles to a center-right country, and these inane, elitist, pseudo-inspirational left-wingers the Dems keep nominating are just Quixotic losers.

If America comes through with a sanity vote this year, you're the one who's going to have to come down from your hope high and live in the McReal McWorld, even if that means strapping on an apron and supporting yourself with your "racial studies" or other lame liberal arts degree and pie-in-the-sky utopian ideas (that depend on taxing people like me to support your utopia).

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 9:42 AM

Joking not aside, there's one thing McSame will have in common with Reagan.. Alzheimers!

"Vote for Me! I'll have Alzheimers"

I know, cheap shot.

Don't we have any better choices??

Posted by: VoterX | August 23, 2008 9:42 AM

Did you get your personal tour of John McCain's seven lovely homes yet?

Visit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtBATTiT7Y

Posted by: J Michael | August 23, 2008 9:42 AM

WOW!!!!! He was? You Did? Amazing??? So, who was the husband and who was the wife?

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:42 AM

OK John, now that Cindy is asleep, let's talk. Is there any truth to the rumour that Senator Larry Craig was your cellmate in the Hanoi Hilton and that the two of you shared a "special relationship" ? You can tell me John, I promise, it will be our little secret.

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:40 AM

Osama Bin Biden!

WTF!?!

Obama most have had his aid choosen for him like he let his aid complete Senate Questionaires on Gun Control, among other Senate Questionaires.

Look an article from the NY TIMES 1988!

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE5D61139F930A25752C0A96E948260

Obama is an idiot! 2 Plagerists makes a Landslide Victory for the Republicans!

McChange/Romney 08'

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCon! | August 23, 2008 9:40 AM

I would rather have McCain than Obama anyday, but truly neither is worthy of that office. Bob Barr is more appealing, but none of the will do what is really nessasary: reducing the size of the federal government by 25% by means of stopping out of control spending. Obama is nothing short of a socialist who wishes to destroy the constitution, starting with the second amendment. That alone will assure a McCain vote from me.

Posted by: ACe | August 23, 2008 9:40 AM

There may be such a thing as too eager to put out messages like the Republicans are doing. Rather than congratulate Obama for his choice and promise a robust campaign on the pertinent issues, these guys who also live in glass houses start throwing stones. Will the bullies ever learn?

It seems that the Republicans were fairly hostile to each other during their own primaries. Sometimes you just have to scratch your head and wonder where these guys really come from.

Now that it is Obama-Biden, let the campaigning begin in earnest. What a week this will be in Denver. Let the Republicans start something.

I did notice that Obama is now gaining again in the polls. I guess that McCain has made one too many mistakes. The last one on his houses speaks volumes. The Democrats didn't even pray for that gaff. God works in wonderful and mysterious ways. With all of their "smarts" and trickery, the Republicans still manage to shoot themselves in the feet.

Posted by: Earl C | August 23, 2008 9:40 AM

The "Big O" has just sealed victory for the Republicans in November. Two gas-bags on the same ticket won't do. What a train wreck. Liberals know they are finished as well. Promoting class warfare won't help, becasue deep down most voters understand that "The One" is every bit the elitist that Libs want to say McCain is. Socialists don't get elected President. I can hear the counter arguements now...McBush! Halliburton! No war for oil! Hilarious.

Posted by: jchris_66 | August 23, 2008 9:38 AM

This race is coming down to VPs for me. Obama says he represents change, so why did he pick this bozo? Biden is your quintessential politician. He's been in Washington WAY too long and nobody loves to hear himself talk more than this guy does. I'm very disappointed by this pick.

Posted by: Earl | August 23, 2008 9:38 AM

Does Papa Smurf's elevation mean little AG Biden becomes US Senator? Btw, Biden's an arrogant and pompous _ _ _ _ for those who have dealt with him. Kaine would've been a decent choice. Even Bayh. But Biden? This is going to be a roller coaster election now. Especially after Biden drove home from a fundraiser in Rehoboth Beach last winter after knocking down a couple.

Posted by: Joe | August 23, 2008 9:37 AM

Oh Cindy, one more thing before you go back to bed, do you know how many houses John has, he appears to have forgotten, again?

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:37 AM

"Obama-Biden" Laden? I see the web adds now.

Posted by: Florida Jim | August 23, 2008 9:36 AM

we progressives gave the american people too much credit, the polls showed it. had to go with plan B. washington insider for vp is ok. i also like angry passionate people, biden is one of them. bubye neocons!

Posted by: cls | August 23, 2008 9:36 AM

Oh John.....you'll be happy to know that the trailer parks are open for business this morning, I see a few of your friends have finally got over their friday night drunk to come rescue you....Cindy can go back to bed now...

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:36 AM

Hey, Joe. What is "Palgerism?" Is that the thing where you leave your handicapped wife for a younger woman? I didn't know Biden had done that, too!

Posted by: ZK | August 23, 2008 9:35 AM

Hey John, is it true that 90% of republicans are related to each other?

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:34 AM

Sorry about all the raving comments. I haven't taken my meds today. I feel and look like a complete idiot.

WAAAA WAAA WAAAAA.

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:34 AM

Wow what a pick.
Obama can appeal to the typical white person.
Biden can appeal to the Indians at the 7 Elevens and Dunkin Doughnuts!
We can call them bigot and bigoted!

Posted by: Tom | August 23, 2008 9:32 AM

I think Biden is a great pick. And he will be an excellent VP.

To Aspergirl: I hope you don't have any asperkids, because they're off to war! And if you become asperpregnant and don't want to be, tough, because you won't be able to do anything about it. And if you have an asperjob, don't try to get equal pay, because your candidate says no.

Good luck with that volunteering.

Posted by: Susan | August 23, 2008 9:32 AM

Biden as VP? He's a jerk and he sports one of the worst set of hair plugs I've ever seen. A guy that can't be honest with his hair loss should be trusted with tax money.

Posted by: Biden's Laughable | August 23, 2008 9:30 AM

Hey John, John, are you still breathing? John? Oh Cindy.......

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:30 AM

Hey John, who will your VP choice be? "Uhhhh, George Bush, no wait, Dick Cheney, or maybe Don Rumsfeld or that other guy at justice, oh heck, Cindy, what's the name of that attorney general guy who put drapes over statues at justice because their titties were showing, oh ya, that guy, I'd go with him...."

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:28 AM

You just might have enough back road Hillbillies to straighten out the mess your in.

Posted by: justada55+ | August 23, 2008 9:26 AM

Hey Bill, Just thought I would let you know that the New England states lead the nation in people marrying their cousins. I have known only one couple that were married, and they were first cousins. An ex-girl friends of mine's aunt and uncle. They are from new york.

Posted by: Al | August 23, 2008 9:25 AM

Hey John, how long should the US occupy Iraq? "UHHHHH, I'll have my staff, oh wait, I know this one.....100 years" Cindy, I got one right, I got one!!

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:25 AM

Thanks Caroline ! This guy is a loose cannon and lacks great credentials unless he is borrowing from someone else.Added bonus ,he comes from a state that will not make a difference. GO JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Larry | August 23, 2008 9:24 AM

Someone must have told "Baraq H. Obama" that you need an old white dude to battle 'John Wayne McCain' so people think you have experience. What they should have told him would be to avoid the Washington establishment. Change isn't a four-letter word. For a new fresh guy about change, Biden brings a lot of Beltway Baggage. In my humble opinion Biden's experience really highlights how little experience Baraq H. Osama has. I just hope Biden is ready to be sworn in on the Koran.

Posted by: ButchCassidy | August 23, 2008 9:24 AM

Hey John, How high do you have to fly a plane that just dumps bombs on people and then returns to base for a warm shower without getting blown out of the sky? "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, stop it, I'm a hero!!" WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:23 AM

Hey John, what was the name of that Senator that got sent up the creek instead of you during that savings and loan scandal, the Keating Five thing, remember? " UHHHH, UHHHH, CINDY!!! They're picking on me" WAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: PJ451 | August 23, 2008 9:21 AM

Other then having all the Establishment Media types on his speed dial, what exactly has Senator Biden ever done?

Looking at his resume, one notices he is remarkably short of actual accomplishment. His only talent, apparently, is an ability to serve in DC for many, many years while doing nothing. He is about the only Senator who has managed to accomplish even less then John Kerry!

Biden’s reputation, like the entire O's campaign, is all media hype and drama queen posturing. Apparently, no on in the Establishment Media have the guts to tell the Messiah he is naked. Other then being remarkably good at getting his face on camera, Biden has done nothing of note. This probably is the most incompetent choice Obama could have made.

No wonder the Democrats comments here are so shrill and hysteric. They desperately are trying to substitute volume and bile for thought because there is no rational way to excuse the Obama's team grotesque incompetence.

Posted by: Johnnie | August 23, 2008 9:21 AM

Hey John, how much money do you have to make to be considered rich? "Uhhhhh, oh, I don't know, Uhhh, 5 million?"

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 9:20 AM

I can see Obama/Duval and Biden/Kinock's plagiarism side by side in the same add for a laugh...

- A McCain Democrat

Posted by: vs | August 23, 2008 9:19 AM

McBush is DONE. Hey John, how many wives have you left while they were dying? "Uhhhh, I'll have my staff get back to you on that"

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pj451 | August 23, 2008 9:18 AM

We thank God you are not a Democrat too! With such a brain trust as you supporting him, McAncient is sure to win the illiterate, perpetually intoxicated, redneck, I-married-my-cousin crowd vote such as yourself. That is, if you can sober up and get someone to read the paper for you so you can drive your beverly hillbilly truck to the polling place you backwardsass country hick.


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good thing the Dali-Obama picked someone from the battleground state of Delaware. That will help him in the South. What a dope...surrounded by dopes. Thank God I'm not a Democrat and thank God John McCain will be our next President. Please John, pick Pawlenty as your Veep!

Posted by: Bill JustBill | August 23, 2008 9:17 AM

Let's see - This pick takes the "old Man" aspect off the table, eliminates the "change" focus, adds palgerism to elitism as a nice ticket, but does lock up the 3 electoral votes for Delaware which are vital to avoid being swept in November. Excellent choice for defeat. Wait until Biden's college fratentity "black Face" photos surface. Yoe just know they are being dug out as we read todays comments.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | August 23, 2008 9:17 AM

"Just like Obama, Biden has never run a city, he's never run a state, he's never run a business. Even Biden said, "the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Wow, that's right! But, oh, wait! Neither has John McCain! Unless McCain picks his mortal enemy, the ultimate Empty Suit Mitt Romney (whom McCain has said much worse about than Obama has said about Biden and vice-versa), the odds are that nobody on the ticket will have "run" a city, state, or personal business. Considering how great President Bush has been as the "CEO president," former governor, and all-around Good Old Boy, methinks the American electorate could give two less turds.

I'm not a "Everything My Party Does is Right" guy. I don't think the Democrats really deserve a landslide victory in the fall, especially considering the deadlocked Congress. But McCain's line of argument---Obama can't be president because he's not "ready"---is, in my opinion, as wrong as someone who says McCain is "too old" to be president. Experience in government doesn't mean excellence.

Posted by: ZK | August 23, 2008 9:17 AM

Isn't Biden also Vice President of the hair club for men?

Posted by: JDSOUTHMAYD | August 23, 2008 9:17 AM

Republicans (at least in Texas) are thrilled that Biden was picked! For one, he comes from a small liberal state that only provides four (?) electoral votes. Secondly, Biden is great about sticking his foot in his mouth! Couldn't have gone for the more moderate, youthful Evan Bayh, huh? Yeah, sure Biden's got experience, but I'll take the seasoned war hero over the pseudo-lawyer any day. Great pick Barry!

Posted by: voices | August 23, 2008 9:15 AM

This shows how perverse yet weak the Republican talking points really are. They attack Joe Biden for being an insider on foreign policy while at the same time this is their only, and I repeat only, selling point for McCain. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Mary | August 23, 2008 9:15 AM

The supporters of Senator 10-Houses are all in a tizzy. Shows that Obama made the right pick. Its nice to see these Republican bozos going bonkers. Enjoy your weekend guys. I hope it really sticks in your craw.

Posted by: hayden1 | August 23, 2008 9:15 AM

The Clintons are going to be pissed. They will raise all holy hell at the convention. Gonna be ugly. The Dems just self destructed.

Posted by: Smack Water Jack | August 23, 2008 9:14 AM

Was he part of the watergate hearings like the Nunn? I know he was in on that television face stuff for the Thomas hearings with Anita, but kinda remember his mug from watergate too-or am I dreamin

Posted by: J. | August 23, 2008 9:13 AM

"AsperGirl - on what women's issue does John McCain's message resonate to deserve your precious vote?"

This is not a year in which to vote on woman's issues. There are unprecedented economic, military, energy, climate and social changes unfolding. Globalization is disclocating major parts of our society in serious and complex ways.

This is not a year for an inexperienced, immature candidate, not a year for identity politics and not a year for voting wedge issues.

If I had any doubts about Obama's character, his immature, gripe-minded use of a 3 a.m. cell phone text message to convey his VP pick, a gratuitous slap at Hillary, establishes that on a personal level he's not presidential material, either.

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 9:12 AM

So, it's Obama bin Biden!

"Welcome Hillary Supporter's"

Hillary's views are closer to McCain's than Obama's on most issues. Plus, if Hillary ever wants to be President, it needs to be in 4 years, not in 8, so Obama needs to lose. No one is going to vote for a 70 year old woman for President.

Posted by: Patrick T | August 23, 2008 9:12 AM

Obama touts policies that have failed all over the world. Socialism...the whole world is backing away from it and he's pushing it. And Biden, the plagerising NE liberal...what a pair. All Obamas advisors are a bunch of retreads. Pathetic.

Posted by: Joe Cheeks | August 23, 2008 9:12 AM

MITT ROMNEY will be the only outsider from D.C. He will be the next VP as McCain needs help to get Mich--Romney can pick up alot of blue states----McCAIN-ROMNEY---(change change--what a joke Obama did with his 3 AM text!)

Posted by: DOT | August 23, 2008 9:12 AM

At least Obama is consistant, now we havw two plagerists on the ticket.

Posted by: chris b | August 23, 2008 9:11 AM

What a pathetic choice...Biden, the huge n.e. liberal and the marxist Obama. What a crock...MCCAIN WINS BIG

Posted by: Jack Armstrong | August 23, 2008 9:10 AM

Obviously Obama recognized that he has weaknesses in experience and foreign affairs. No crime in picking somebody who is experienced and is well versed in foreign affairs. When there is a void, you fill it with the right person. I think Joe Biden is that right person and Obama made the right decision. Who should Obama have picked, Ron Paul? Nonsense.

Posted by: Mel | August 23, 2008 9:09 AM

good thing the Dali-Obama picked someone from the battleground state of Delaware. That will help him in the South. What a dope...surrounded by dopes. Thank God I'm not a Democrat and thank God John McCain will be our next President. Please John, pick Pawlenty as your Veep!

Posted by: minnow | August 23, 2008 9:09 AM

Seems like the McCain camp can have a field day making commercials out of this one. Should be fun. Let's hope they have people smart enough to do the right ads.

Posted by: Osama Bin Biden | August 23, 2008 9:08 AM

Silence Is Golden

For any female voter - on what women's issue does John McCain's message resonate to deserve your precious vote?

Forget the blog. Be honest with your self

Posted by: mister.earl | August 23, 2008 9:08 AM

Twiddle D And D 2008 Ahhh the Denver Ticket

Posted by: J | August 23, 2008 9:06 AM

Thanks Barack. You did in the Clintons; and now you did in yourself. Good play. What were we worried about?

Posted by: Richard | August 23, 2008 9:05 AM

wow the empty suit picks and old gezzer! two time presidential looser, way too go

Macains halfway there....

Posted by: mike | August 23, 2008 9:05 AM

I registered Democrat in opposition to the present dummy: W. And don't get my views represented by all of these elite politicians.

Thanks for making my decision easier. If I vote at all this November, I'm voting green, or Ron Paul, and I don't care what the price of gas falls to.

Posted by: 1trevor2 | August 23, 2008 9:05 AM

Remember George Herbert Walker Bush's comments about Ronald Reagan including the "voodoo economics" comments about Reagan's economic policy. Well that became water under the bridge and Bush became Reagan's Veep. This is no different then Obama and Biden during the primary so McBush has no ammo and is shooting blanks.

Posted by: JB in Wayne, NJ | August 23, 2008 9:05 AM

Proud of you America. You now have a chance at bring your country, and you the people together.
Speaking of class, Obama is man enough to ask for a VP whom will challenge him and assist him. Sure beats presidential vetoes time and time again. Do not forget you have a President whom is still learning after two terms, finally able to make a speech publicly, but still screws up. You still have a President that has ruined your country and a crooked VP that is never seen. You are in for change, and may your country be blessed. Perhaps the lies told to you the people will now come to a end.

Posted by: Justsadad55+ | August 23, 2008 9:01 AM

One Simple Question

AsperGirl - on what women's issue does John McCain's message resonate to deserve your precious vote?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: mister.earl | August 23, 2008 9:00 AM

Well a while back Biden did say that Obama was a "clean black." His VP choice makes no difference to me, as I refuse to vote for a marxist and/or someone who favors infanticide.

Posted by: Mom2Five | August 23, 2008 8:59 AM

The Republicans have dodged a potential fatal bullet. The one Vice President selection that could have saved the Obama campaign from certain defeat was Hillary Clinton. The GOP is taking a huge sigh of relief for Obama picking Biden.

Joe Biden is the 21st century version of Thomas Eagleton - the VP candidate that helped sink McGovern in 1972. As they said in WWII - Loose lips sink ships! Obama will rue the day he picked Joe Biden.

Just like Obama, Biden has never run a city, he's never run a state, he's never run a business. Even Biden said, "the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Posted by: alance | August 23, 2008 8:58 AM

A totally expected pick from a presidential candidate who is unfit for command.

Why choose an old geezer when you have been complaining abut your opponent's age?

Amazing, but expected. Looks like McCain will be a shoo--in this time around, thanks to this preposterous decision.

Posted by: TheWiseOne | August 23, 2008 8:58 AM

One Simple Question

AsperGirl - on what women's issue does John McCain's message resonate to deserve your precious vote?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 8:57 AM

Great, another career politician.

We need term limits. The same guys and same special interests have been running Washington for decades.

Posted by: Joe Smith | August 23, 2008 8:56 AM

McCain is in a vulnerable position now and he knows it.

Posted by: sally | August 23, 2008 8:55 AM

Good choice. Biden has a likability that many politicians simply do not. He's also a sharp fellow. There were times when he's been exasperating, going all the way back to Anita Hill hearings, but no one can question his work ethic, smarts, or love of country--no, not even the legions of right-wing status quo (which means, continuing decline and foreign policy fiascos) could realistically question that.

Posted by: Plutonium57 | August 23, 2008 8:50 AM

Don't a and b me you twit. You get a F for being a fraud. A true logger here and just dumbfounded that the messiah didn't pick his only chance of gaining anything in the polls- with the Clintons. That choice shook my booties more than any other, but as with the popcorn eater I too am lookin at the roll call with the same anticipation of front and center circus ticks, yeehaw bringing the butter

Posted by: J. | August 23, 2008 8:49 AM

Because Obama had to use a 3 a.m. cell phone buzz to smack Hillary with his VP pick, I just sent John McCain a small donation.

I urge other Clinton supporters to do the same, now that she is not on the Dem ticket, every time Obama and his supporters kick her from now on, like he did with this 3 a.m. cell phone text message.

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It's 3 a.m. The cell phone buzzes. A text mssage from Barack Obama forms on the LCD screen:

"No way, Hillary! And no to all your supporters, too!"

WOW. If I had any hope for him (and I didn't) this dashes it. Obama is petty and holds a grudge. What a build-up to a petty moment: a 3 a.m. text message by phone is clearly intended to smack Hillary.

HELLO JOHN MCCAIN DO YOU NEED ANOTHER VOLUNTEER? AND HOW ABOUT SOME MORE DONATIONS?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:49 AM

so much for the message of change....hahahaha

Posted by: pat | August 23, 2008 8:47 AM

Obama picks a 65 yr old geezer who is a lifer politician who in the debate said Obama is NOT qualified to be Pres.

Obama has the gaul to comment on McC age and how Mcc is an inside Washington pol, another flip and flop....hypocrite...hypocrite

Posted by: Ms Fran | August 23, 2008 8:46 AM

Two blundering snobs. Thank you Caroline Kennedy!

Posted by: BW | August 23, 2008 8:44 AM

I hope McCain picks someone who can clobber Biden in a debate forum (like Huckabee, but Huckabee has his own baggage)

I saw Newt Gingrich opposite Biden on Meet The Press one Sunday, and Biden looked absolutely FRANTIC. Lol....

I don't know if Kay Bailey (as much as I love her) could out talk Biden either, because she's too well mannered to go for the jugular.

I'm just glad it's Biden though. O'vomit will stutter, while Biden blubbers, and between them, it's going to be a rocky time on the old debate trail! Lol...

Posted by: Shawne | August 23, 2008 8:43 AM

It's 3 a.m. The cell phone buzzes. A text mssage from Barack Obama forms on the LCD screen:

"No way, Hillary! And no to all your supporters, too!"

WOW. If I had any hope for him (and I didn't) this dashes it. Obama is petty and holds a grudge. What a build-up to a petty moment: a 3 a.m. text message by phone is clearly intended to smack Hillary.

HELLO JOHN MCCAIN DO YOU NEED ANOTHER VOLUNTEER? AND HOW ABOUT SOME MORE DONATIONS?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 23, 2008 8:43 AM

"It won't stick" ... "Not much of this will stick"

For the die-hard Obama fans that is, of course, true.

For the die-hard McCain fans it is, of course, unnecessary.

What's important is

a) getting out the vote -- Will any of that make some Democrats less likely to vote or some Republicans more likely to vote?

b) helping the few undecideds to decide.

Lets watch the polls of likely voters.

Posted by: rcp | August 23, 2008 8:39 AM

I think Biden is clean, and articulate. But of coarse, he's not the only one.

Posted by: nediB | August 23, 2008 8:39 AM

'ol foot-in-the-mouth Biden? hahahahahahaha!!

I've always thought Joe Biden was a good looking guy, but he's just not too smart, and he's ESPECIALLY not too smart when trying to counter jabs from a hard punching opponent. He tends to wallow into quicksand, then flail around until he realizes he's caught, then tries to Bvllshet his way out. (of course, quicksand doesn't speak "bullsh8t"..hahhaha!

I'm going to the store for popcorn. I think I'll buy a case.

Posted by: Bognelia232 | August 23, 2008 8:36 AM

With 350 million people in the USA, the Democrats have put up someone w/ no real experience; a semi-deranged wife who hates America despite all the riches she’s gained from living here; a racist church led by another anti-American in Rev. Wright; who just happened to have mentored Obama for the last 20 years; and now Barack Hussein Obama selects someone who’s been in the US Senate since 1972; and twice failed for the White House because he was caught as a cheat. Either Obama is a Republican plant or the Democrats have a deathwish. I’m voting for McCain and hoping others do the same.

Posted by: Joe Diaz | August 23, 2008 8:35 AM

Who can Biden borrow his acceptance speech from? Cite your sources, Joe. Most of the constituency won't mind that you've never had an original thought if you cite your sources. Just keep telling O how neat, tidy and clean he is. That's very complimentary and not at all patronizing.

Posted by: Guy Gaduois | August 23, 2008 8:35 AM

That's what happens when you let a Kennedy pick your mate! The Senate: Cesspool not fit to dive in let alone grab a bad penny from

Posted by: J. | August 23, 2008 8:34 AM

oh yeah

Posted by: Bob44 | August 23, 2008 8:32 AM

Bye Bye Bama

Posted by: Georgia Man | August 23, 2008 8:30 AM

It won't stick, JakeD, for two reasons - one, Biden will not let it and two, he has made far more recent comments praising Obama and Clinton. McCain should have waited until after the rally today - Biden will use this ad as a launching pad. McCain should be more worried about his own choices.

Posted by: Obama-Biden '08 | August 23, 2008 8:27 AM

Obama made a serious mistake. Biden is the caricature that Obama had tried to make of McCain. Stupid. Better Obama make mistakes now and not be elected than in office. Big mistake. Oy. The trial lawyer, tobacco lobbyist, NARAL big buddy with hair plugs and diarrhea of the mouth is CHANGE????????????????? Oy ve.

Posted by: Biden Bye Democrats | August 23, 2008 8:24 AM

It didn't matter who Obama picked. The McCain campaign is in the attack any decision made mode by characterizing it in a negative fashion. If he had picked, say Sebelius, the comments might have been how he steered away from getting a strong voice like Biden. This technique is going to get awfully tired by the election. And if it is successful, it will set political discourse and cooperation back even further. The way the Republicans are going, there won't be that much of a country left to govern.

Posted by: Attacks | August 23, 2008 8:22 AM

Well I guess Team Obama is smarter than me. So much for first to know since most of the sane people were sleeping at 3a.m. Why would you pick another member of congress when their poll numbers are the worst in recent memory? Well we will ahve to see if there is a "Bidne Bounce" in the polls. The real-time poll at http://www.bop-o-rama.com was working late last night. Here are the numbers to start the day.

Obama 522,518 McCain 300,471

Posted by: acarponzo | August 23, 2008 8:19 AM

It won't stick?! McCain simply needs to use VIDEO of Biden denouncing Obama's inexperience. I wonder if he will pick Kay Bailey Hutchinson now?

Posted by: JakeD | August 23, 2008 8:14 AM

Quite the quick turnaround for the McCain attack machine. Not much of this will stick, though.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 23, 2008 8:05 AM

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