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Chaos on the Convention Floor

By Paul Kane
DENVER -- The convention floor has turned into an overstuffed pinata, as staff have told delegates the floor is essentially shut down.

Staff are informing delegates no one else is allowed on the floor, meaning no one will leave the floor and risk losing their place.

Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) had to beg to be allowed to cut across the floor to find the Maryland delegation. "Jesus Christ," Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) just yelled, denied access to finding the delegates from the first-in-the-nation caucus state.

Police yelled at delegates behind the New York section to move in one direction, only to have security on the other end send them back the way they came.

Hundreds of delegates are cordoned off under the stands, denied entry into the hall.

The confusion comes on the heels of a day's worth of complaints from delegates and party insiders about a credentialing process run amok.

Posted at 10:37 PM ET on Aug 26, 2008  | Category:  Democratic Party
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After reading through some of the posts, I am now convinced that the problem with the Democrats is that there are too many Republicans in the Democratic party pretending to be Democrats. They are no more this passonate about Hillary as a man in the moon. All they want to do is to use Hillary as an excuse for not pulling the lever to vote for a black American.
Obama isn't losing, America is losing by allowing their closet racism to intefere with their thought processes.
This country would rather go into a depresson than to vote for a black candidate. How sick is that?

Posted by: Earl3 | August 27, 2008 12:58 PM

My wife is a passionate Democrat, and (paradoxically) a highly efficient Austrian. As she recently watched a liberal fund raising event turn into chaos, she turned to me with a sigh, and said:

"In the end, we always need Republicans."

Bingo.

Posted by: John D | August 27, 2008 12:45 AM
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Bingo....torture...mounting national and personal debt...housing values plummett....a war on false pretenses with no end...a great American city down the tubes...no coherent energy policy....family incomes stagnant...Yes, Bingo....or is that "Mission Accomplished"?

Posted by: Jaybird | August 27, 2008 12:33 PM

Four thoughts from an independent voter after reading comments here:
1. If this is the way women can be expected to react when they don’t get their way, I will likely never support a woman for president again. I thought her candidacy was terrific, saw her speak here in Iowa, and considered her as viable. But her stubborn and deaf followers have changed my mind on women candidates. A woman scorned….
2. The posts online at “PUMA” sites during the past 72 hours showed a remarkable sameness in language and a subtle hint that the PUMA movement was at last in part fostered and fomented by the McCain campaign. Not all posters were actually disaffected Hillary supporters. Strategically stirring the pot were imposters and I wonder how true Hillary supporters might have reacted had they known this.
3. For those Hillary supporters who are now fawning all over the John McCain that slammed Chelsea Clinton in 1998 and even making ads for the GOP, I am wondering what they will feel like when McCain appoints further conservative judges and continues to advocate for maintaining different pay for same work status for women?
4. If the core issue is Hillary running in 2012 because Barack loses the election, the behavior of the Hillary supporters in Denver will certainly not advantage Hillary. Don’t ask us to support her and don’t ask the democrats currently supporting Barack for their help. A person is known by the company he/she keeps. Tell me your friends and I will tell you who you are. Hillary needed to tell these “friends” to grow up.

Posted by: abode | August 27, 2008 12:26 PM

The Republicans are running scared.And any of you Hillary supporters are still talking about going with Mcshame, well get to going.You were not a true Hillary supporter. You only supporter her because you didn't want to admit openly that you are a racist, and will never vote for a blackman.But hey, that's ok just man up and admit it. Don't hide behind Hillary. She has put all of her support behind OBAMA because he stand for the same things she stands for.So you want John Mcshame you
got him,see if one of you lose your job or home if he will give you one of his that he can't remember how many he has.Spreading your lie and hate on these blogs will not defeat OBAMA. So go away and stay away.

Posted by: tygirl | August 27, 2008 12:21 PM

I have read that M.obama is beautiful,but she sure does look angry,I wonder if its because she has round eyes,I can't think of anyone that i know who has such rounded EYES. AM I wrong.? never the less she sure does look like one mean motor scooter, bless her little heart,would not want to be on her bad side..no ma'm.! I wonder if it has been asked at her place of employment, how she got along with co-workers will the media want to go there.? hummmm...

Posted by: tiliyeah | August 27, 2008 11:52 AM

I know you are just a republican but just in case there are a few real Dems thinking that. A write in vote for Hillary is a vote for Mccain.

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WRITE IN HILLARY 2008

THE TRUE LEGITIMATE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE
18+ MILLION AND COUNTING.......

Posted by: libraire | August 26, 2008 11:50 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 10:38 AM

Yea, all three of them. They don't mean sh&t

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Hillary Clinton's speech was pretty much to tell those PUMAs to sit down and shut the hell up. I'm very proud of her.

Posted by: Steve Charb | August 27, 2008 12:34 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2008 10:35 AM


JohnD . . . I really appreciated your "Bingo" moment and wanted to ask did you explain to your wife why "In the end, we always need Republicans."

Here's a few thoughts I had for the rest of those wondering why such a statement is so relevant. It's because the Republicans are a party of people who have gone out into the world and risked their wealth to achieve a financial goal as opposed to the Democrats who always have their hand-out. The Republicans are entrepreneurs who create jobs, Democrats are social welfare enablers. Republicans invest in the economy, Democrats want the wealth of a nation spread equally without taking the risk (also better none as Socialist).

When it's all said and done, "we always need Republicans" because they are organized and they contribute to the growth of our economy. In the end it always boils down to money . . . who controls it and how is it spent.

Vote McCain in 2008

Posted by: buzcrate | August 27, 2008 9:36 AM

Scape·goat·ism

The act or practice of assigning blame or failure to another,
as to deflect attention or responsibility away from oneself.
Also called scapegoating.

McCain and the Republican Party:
A party that pratices scapegoating!

Posted by: vicbennettnet | August 27, 2008 8:21 AM

there are a lot of "point" chasers here, or more likely, there are two who have ten different log-in names and they post the same message over and over. lots of spewing nastiness and typo city in here. the Mad Mac "point" posters sound incredibly frustrated but very similar and when they are bored they cut and paste a lot. what you have to remember, boys and girls, all caps posts are IGNORED. a cap here and there, okay, but ALL caps, you look senile, like you hit caps lock and cannot get your brain around the fact that you are typing in all caps. sorry to go on, pet peeve, get a grip, turn off all caps.

Posted by: preAmerikkkan | August 27, 2008 3:28 AM

Hillary made a fabulous speech tonight and tried with all her might to unite the democratic party. For her it is about moving the democratic party forward to get better insurance for everyone, a greener country, and less dependence on oil from other countries or destroying completely all our resources and eliminating the future for our children.. She is for a better economy, and in her speech made it very clear to everyone, just how presidential she is and what a strong democrat. had the situation been reversed, She would have asked Obama to be the VP to unify the party. Many are left scratching their heads at why, with all her voters, and many who were not a part of the primaries, but support her now.. Her popularity has increased since Obama has been the DNC choice for president, and with the popular vote and winning over all the swing states and leading obama and Mccain by doubkle digits in June.. It makes you wonder just what they were thinking.. I mean the Democratic National Committee.

The media still does not spell it out. It was clear tonight that she has about an equal amount of male and female supporters.. and it wasn't about her being a women, it was about what a great president she would make.. She actually gets it.. and is strong enough to stand for what she believes in and would not be bouncing far left and far right like Obama.. That is why he is losing.. He is the true definition of Flip Flop..

I truly hope that after Obama's major blunder of not choosing Hillary and her now 40 million or more backers..that the super delegates WAKE UP and do a real roll call so this women can be the presidential choice.. Its not two late.. She can have him as the VP and he will get the experience he needs.. Biden will go back to being Biden.. and perhaps they will throw him an important defense position.

But did you see the people go wild over her! Hang on every word, and cry..men and women crying.. That is the real deal and the real president. It should be like Roosevelt who was voted in at the convention, and overturned his opponent who had the delegates. He was one of our best presidents. He was for the people as Hillary is clearly. Senator Clinton has been compared by many as the Roosevelt of today..No games here and no anger, she backed Obama at 100%..and made it clear to her supporters that it was not about her, but it was about the uninsured mother with cancer, and the war hero without a job or good medical care.. It was about the people not her and that is why she wants Obama to be voted in. For the democrats.

For the group of us that cannot budge. It was about the Democratic party and how they cannot be allowed to get away with selecting the candidate and changing all the rules to fit getting Obama in as their man. It was more than sexism. I do not believe this democratic party will do what it says it will. I believe Hillary would do the things she says she would. Her 400 page resume says she will and she will fight for each and everyone one of us.. We do not like favortism in our party, and not allowing her a full roll call or even even givng her roll call.. Every democrat that is just a few delegates ahead, as Obama is,has always had a roll call. But the rules changed this time once more and that is what is turning us off from Obama and of course him going more right than Mccain recently...There should be a full roll call and it sheould be demanded of the delegates and the DNC.. Not to read a couple states and say Obama won..

The media is not covering the part that really makes us mad..That is the part where the DNC is being dishonest and deceptive and quite frankly I have issues with them. They need to get rid of Dean and Nancy, Kerry and all the other presidential losers.. and get some real democrats in the party again.. Like Hillary.

Posted by: rlarkin2 | August 27, 2008 1:58 AM

McCain is still trying to figure out how many houses he has but unfortunately he can't count higher than 4.

Posted by: Bill | August 27, 2008 1:25 AM

Has Obama visited all 57 states yet ?

Mac'08

Posted by: bk | August 27, 2008 1:18 AM

My wife is a passionate Democrat, and (paradoxically) a highly efficient Austrian. As she recently watched a liberal fund raising event turn into chaos, she turned to me with a sigh, and said:

"In the end, we always need Republicans."

Bingo.

Posted by: John D | August 27, 2008 12:45 AM

Hillary Clinton's speech was pretty much to tell those PUMAs to sit down and shut the hell up. I'm very proud of her.

Posted by: Steve Charb | August 27, 2008 12:34 AM

You are hoping Barack will change parties, acarponzo?
You better hike, not walk, to a mental health center.
Your delusions have gotten the better of your brain, kiddo.
==
Didn't you hear Hillary clearly or were the voices in your head drowning out your TV?
NO WAY!
NO HOW!
NO McCAIN!

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | August 27, 2008 12:21 AM

Chaos... Change! Change Chaos! Chaos is Change! Change is Chaos! What a mess. I wonder if Obama will be able to Change The Chaos by moving to a bigger stadium. The Daily Gallup shows the convention will certainly not provide a bounce. Maybe Barak will switch parties for '012 and run with Colin Powell. The real-time poll at http://www.bop-o-ram.com shows Obama heading to 1,000,000. McCain/McSame, can't seem to break 400,000. Hillary gave a good speech,not a great speech. Hillary in "012?

Posted by: acarponzo | August 27, 2008 12:01 AM

I was a PUMA, but tonight I realized we must unite to fight McCain! Godspeed!

Posted by: Carla | August 27, 2008 12:00 AM

This is not good. The Dem Convention has had full-time staffers working for it for over a year. What are you doing if not figuring this stuff out first?!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 11:58 PM

WRITE IN HILLARY 2008

THE TRUE LEGITIMATE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE
18+ MILLION AND COUNTING.......

Posted by: libraire | August 26, 2008 11:50 PM

Hillary got the best line of the convention so far when she said that Bush and McCain were meeting in the Twin Cities because you can't tell them apart.

Wonderful!

As for conventions, the Democrats may not know how to run a Party, but they sure do know how to run a Country!

Trust Babies are for the Repugs.

Working America knows who works for them.

Posted by: Bill G | August 26, 2008 11:39 PM

Chaos, confusion, dis-organization...

The hallmarks of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Col. Mustard | August 26, 2008 11:32 PM

Republicans masquerading as Clinton supporters. What a laugh. Hey GOPers, how many homes does your candidate own? Get used to losing, Bush/McCainie Crazies!

Posted by: Prospero | August 26, 2008 11:26 PM

Dems - Originators of the cluster fox-trot.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | August 26, 2008 11:26 PM

Democrats suck. The Democratic party should be outlawed and all remaining Democrats should be eliminated. Look at all those weird looking colors on those people in Denver. Ewwww.
No wonder McCain is winning.

Posted by: Go McCain 08 | August 26, 2008 11:25 PM

More evidence that Republicans are at the heart of these kinds of postings...because all Democrats and actual Hillary backers were watching her speech, not posting this idiotic trash on wp.com.

Posted by: A Real Democrat | August 26, 2008 11:24 PM

Are you a democrat or not? Yes or no?

Posted by: Q for: twin_peaks_nikki | August 26, 2008 11:18 PM

The Real Meaning of Hillary's History-Making Speech:

HILLARY SAYS VOTE FOR BARACK.

HILLARY SAYS THE FATE OF THE NATION IS IN PLAY.

BUT SHE ALSO HAS TOLD US BARACK CAN'T WIN.

READ THE CODE, NOT THE LIPS.

VOTE HILLARY!

Posted by: Outside the Box | August 26, 2008 11:17 PM

The quadrennial dinner at the kids' table!

Posted by: Ah, yes! | August 26, 2008 11:15 PM

LOL . . . Dumocraps . . . you have got to love them.

Especially the Obamariginals . . . Yes We Can ! Change You Can Believe In ! Yes We Can ! . . . and they want to run this country.

They can't even run a convention let alone their Party.

Vote McCain 08

Posted by: VA Don | August 26, 2008 11:15 PM

Wsa Kucinich trying to criticize McCain, Biden, or Obama? Maybe Kucinich could call his space alien friends to win the war for us.

Posted by: rpatoh | August 26, 2008 11:13 PM

Hillary is going to grab the nomination tomorrow -- she is entitled to it. I am so bitter and angry that more people don't recognize this. After all, it is the angry, bitter leftists that will decide this election. That is why Hillary will win.

Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | August 26, 2008 10:59 PM

8:44pm MT. Hillary is on. Let's see what happens now.

Posted by: wpreader2007 | August 26, 2008 10:45 PM

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