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AP: Kaine Says He's Out of VP Hunt

By Michael D. Shear
Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D) will not be the vice presidential running mate for Sen. Barack Obama, the Associated Press reported tonight, citing a Democratic source close to the governor.

The AP reported that Kaine told associates today that Obama had informed him that he would not be the running mate. Kaine flew to Denver on a private plane today with his family to attend the Democratic National Convention.

Obama has still not made public his choice, but all signs point to an imminent disclosure. Obama and his running mate are expected at a rally in Springfield, Ill., tomorrow afternoon.

Kaine and Obama are friends, and there was speculation that Obama wanted someone like Kaine to help present a fresh, outside the Beltway face to voters. But Kaine has no foreign policy experience, and Republicans had already begun to attack him as one of the least experienced people under consideration.

By Post Editor  |  August 22, 2008; 10:03 PM ET
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It was probably Biden all along. In the chess game of campaign politics making moves with political heavies in Virginia and Indiana was a smart, late stage play, but the endgame was probably never Kaine or Bayh or Sebelius. Obama helped them, and they helped him. If there had been someone remotely suitable from Colorado, Ohio or Florida they too would have been in it 'til the end. Reagan had Bush, now Obama has Biden. In 2016, Biden won't be up for it. Hillary will be 68 then, and if she doesn't lose the plot along the way, 2016 is now hers- assuming that she can beat Kaine, Sebelius, Bayh, whoever else pops up- like Jeb, who understands the game enough to know not to mess with Obama in 2012. Obama is building a serious organization.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 23, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Kaine's and Bayh's stock started to go down after the invasion of Georgia and Biden's went up. Biden should thank Vladimir Putin for helping to get him on the ticket.

Posted by: danielhancock | August 23, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

HRCs campaign was chaos and confusion. Obama needs to have a #2 who have a simpatico governing style. Kaine, Sebelius, and Biden. The August Surprise in Georgia reinforced the need for foreign policy experience on the ticket. Reagan had Bush to compensate for his inexperience in DC, now Obama has Biden. He's good to go.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 23, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Kaine would have been a disaster- no experience, barely into running his state- Biden is a better choice. The only one that Kaine is better than is Sebelius who isolates Clinton supporters as well as having no experience. Richardosn or HRC are the best choices politically and policy wise- but Biden is acceptable and can help at least a little. Bayh would have been replaced in Indiana by the Republican governor with a Repub senator- and I think that that more than anything else hurt him.


Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is the smart pick. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall, or the guy who planted one, in Georgia last week when he went there. Serious diplomacy. Ever see Annie Hall, where the real words are in subtitles at the bottom: "If you are in cahoots with McCain and you scrw with my guy with an October Surprise I will make you regret it, for the rest of your life. Obama isn't Zhvania. Obama matters"

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 22, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

For the life of me, I can't see a Joe Biden, highly experienced, opting for a position where he would have to answer to the lowliest lackey from the White House. I hope he is not tempted by this empty, vacuous gesture. He will mightily help Obama in the election, but after that, will be an ineffective voice. he doesn't deserve this ignomious end to his career.

Unless between now and November, or even later, Obama is exposed for the fraud he is, and somehow disqualified (does the FEC or whoever it is that has the power to disqualify a candidate) from being President. That is the only scenario I see for Biden to be on the ticket.

Chet Edwards, now that's a fine pick. A no-name Texan, who will be so grateful for the honour and will forever be subservient to Obama - that is, if Obama prvails in November, which is by no means guaranteed.

Posted by: Krishna | August 22, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Biden already said that he was not going to be VP.

Biden is a lifetime Senator. Why would he want to be on a losing ticket with Obama and be out of a job next year?

He is just trying to throw the scent off of Chet Edwards the Texas Congressman.

Crawford Texas Here they come!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Grace | August 22, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

All About the Hair wrote:

Biden is the guy. No earthquake here. VP's rarely do.
I don't know, I was thinking about this, wondering if Cheney has redefined the role of VP, at least for the moment.

Posted by: Mordant Cowboy | August 22, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Americans wanted Hillary to be the VP but not any more. Obama can lose this election all by himself.

McCain has a 10% lead among Independents according to Gallup polls.

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012


McCain is helping Hillary retire her debt.


Obama did not win the popular vote during the primary. He cheated and paid off superdelgates. That is why they murdered that Arkansas Chairman in charge of superdelegates because he was going to write in Hillary's name at the convention.

Hillary was only 200 delegates out of 9000 behind. She could have won in Denver.

Posted by: Grace | August 22, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Biden is the guy. No earthquake here. VP's rarely do. Biden vs. Romney. Christan vs. Mormon, Old vs. Young... I want to see them both at a debate (or informal conversation at the tabernacle church pronto). Will Biden admit that follows the light of joseph smith? Inquiring minds want to know... Will Romney's hair move in the Cone of Silence? Wig innovators wait and see...

Posted by: All about the hair. | August 22, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Knows his foreign policy, has put in his time.

Gosh, I hope so.

Posted by: Mordant Cowboy | August 22, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Political watchdog, apparently you aren't much a watchdog. Obama is leading McCain in most polls without Hillary on the ticket. By what bizarre logic does he lose if he doesn't pick her?

Posted by: RealChoices | August 22, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Chet Edwards is the VP choice because:

Edwards voted for the Iraq War.

He got the Veterans spending GI bill passed.

Edwards won in a heavily favored Republican district where Bush won 70% of the votes.

Edwards is a part of the Energy Appropriation committee. That means lots of money coming from D.C. will go to renewable energy.

Posted by: Grace | August 22, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse


Your fist bump heroine, Michelle, way back when, proclaimed that she would never vote HRC.

And you pathetic dweebs keep whining that we won't vote the empty suit slimer?

Meanwhile, your man's prostitute media pals like Mo Dowd and EJ Dionne write daily vicious rants against HRC; and then, more of you pathetic whiny dweebs come and cry here that HRC supporters won't vote your man?

And then, some of the more braindead among you NObama doting gutter rats come out here and claim that you will walk out if HRC is on the ticket?

And then, some more pathetic dweebs whine about the lack of support from HRC supporters?

Is there any depth to which you gutter rat groupie dweebs wont sink to?

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 22, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

People are not happy with Bush they willchoose Obama. One mistake after another. I feel so sorry for Ameica if they lose thier mind and elect Obma just because they don't like Bush

Posted by: max | August 22, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Ho ho.. the great energized and enthusiastic base of Nobama is going crazy over Joe Biden.. Joe Biden.. Joe Biden? Yes, that's right, Joe Biden..

Oh well, we have swallowed so much snake oil, we Nobama zombies, how difficult will it be to go crazy over Joe Biden; not much.

After all, he did call our walk on water empty suit here "clean and articulate young man"..

Posted by: duh | August 22, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

All these Hillary supporters that say they will only vote for Obama if Hillary is on the ticket is such nonesense and VERY shallow. Hillary was beat in the primary fair and square by a solid candidate in Barack Obama....enough of this bitterness.....

Posted by: SLK | August 22, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Biden would be grand. Chet Edwards would not carry Texas. Gov.Sibelius would be fantastic, even without foreign experience(she's a pro). Good for Obama not choosing William Blaine(aka Bill)Richardson(a fraud)and who else---YES, YES, YES---ALBERT GORE. WOW. Experienced. Military service and more...GO GREEN

Posted by: Dr.R.D.B. Laime | August 22, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to get a life. Picking on the fact of how many houses MC Cain has? Is that all he has to offer our country? I was already to vote for him. Only way I will now is if Hillary is on his ticket

Posted by: Mac | August 22, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

BS meter.

RED Alert.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 22, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse



McCain voted for Bush's war.

Biden voted for Bush's war.

Obama's JUDGEMENT will decide America's future.


Posted by: ObamaEdwards | August 22, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The only running mate who could pull Obama's chestnuts out of the present poll fire is Al Gore. Obama is toast if he chooses Sen. Joseph Biden.

Posted by: thedefendantX | August 22, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Hillary or nothing!

Posted by: Bruce C. | August 22, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

The trouble with girls is, if they like a boy, no matter how big a bastard he is, they'll say he has an inferiority complex, and if they don't like him, no matter how nice a guy he is, or how big an inferiority complex he has, they'll say he's conceited. Even smart girls do it.

I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff — I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I'd do all day...

Posted by: Holden Caulfield | August 22, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

The mystery continues.Tomorrow will be another day.

Biden is to obvious. Clinton acts like she didn't get it.

The Texas congressman has a pick up truck with a rifle and probably drinks Budweiser.
Is he a good-ole-boy?

Posted by: WALTER | August 22, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

If it's not Hillary, it's over for Obama, and it may be anyway. He goes into the convention with the worst poll numbers of any modern candidate. I am a Democrat, but I can't vote for this inexperienced absentee Senator.

Posted by: Political Watchdog | August 22, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I imagine that the man has made some mistakes in his life.

And now that he is (likely) in this arena, playing at this level of the game, *some people* will define him by his worst moments.

But my understand is that he's a good man, a good American. Knows his foreign policy, has put in his time. 99th out of 100th in terms of Senate wealth. He isn't on the take.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 22, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Ummmh, ldsrapha,

Kaine is awesome? Exactly how? Did he reach consensus with the Republicans on balancing the Virginia budget like Mark Warner did? Did he get a new transportation plan through the legislature that balanced road spending with reasonable tax increases and didn't resort to unconstitutional 'abuser fees?' Did he accomplish anything with the legislative special session other than hundreds of non-binding resolutions praising various soft-ball teams and prize-winning jams?

Yeah, "awesome."

Posted by: HisRoc | August 22, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Joe Biden involved in a plagerism scandal?

Posted by: Hugh | August 22, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

If it weren't for Saashkavili's August surprise TK may have been the guy.

It's a dangerous game that Bush and McCain are playing. If they've been subverting American foreign policy for their political interests then they're definitely going to end up with Col. Klink. Sources can be turned, methods can be detected.

Sorry Timmy, 2016 just got a lot harder for you, bro.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 22, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

That is too bad, Kaine is awesome!! However, Obama will choose the perfect running mate.

Posted by: ldsrapha | August 22, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

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