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Bill Clinton to ABC: 'I Am Not a Racist'

By Anne E. Kornblut
DAKAR, Senegal -- Former president Bill Clinton has been trying to keep his political opinions in check in order to turn back to his international work.

Still, he got a little testy in an interview Sunday with ABC's Kate Snow, telling her he is "not a racist" even as he avoided delving into specifics about what happened in the Democratic presidential primary. The interview, taped in a quick stop in Liberia, will air Monday on "Good Morning America."

Snow asked Clinton, "Do you personally have any regrets about what you did campaigning for your wife?"

With his arms folded and looking a bit tense, Clinton replied, "Yes, but not the ones you think. And it would be counterproductive for me to talk about it."

Barely pausing for a breath, he added, "There are things I wish I'd urged her to do, things I wish I had said, things I wish I hadn't said. But I am not a racist, I never made a racist comment, and I didn't attack him personally," a clear allusion to Sen. Barack Obama.

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I really love all these white guys (I am one, by the way) that make it seem like Obama can play the race card in his favor...I mean, come 'on. If he could in the primary, he sure as hell can't in the general. Bill is just a self-absorbed crybaby here, and nobody should assume his comment about Jesse Jackson wasn't a calculated move on his part...I mean, gee, what else does Obama have in common with Jesse but race? i hope to God Bill stays as far away as possible

Posted by: tired critique | August 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Clinton is not only NOT a racist, but he's more "black" than Obama.

Posted by: JKIR | August 6, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Why are we still going around with our heads in the sand about racism? My goodness, racism is real!
I believe that Obama was reacting to what ever the other candidates spoke of. He did not call Clinton a racist! This was said by those talking heads and all the news channel first & then Obama's campaign had to give their opinion of Clinton remarks being "Unfortunate". We are so quick to put down one candidate to lift up the other. Some of the Clinton supporters are still hung up on this race bait issue and the fact that Obama won fair & square....and that's a fact! The majority of Clinton supporters who states that they will not vote for Obama but will vote McCain are women. For the life of me I can't understand why any woman would be foolish to vote for someone who does not have your interest at heart. We have to get over ourselves & think with our heads. I belive that Obama will win, whether we like it or not!

Posted by: Cindy | August 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

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Bill's not a racist but he sure is acting like a sore loser. Not all Republicans are bigots but it's a safe bet that bigots vote Republican. Bill got more white votes than most Democrats because he's so good at the Bubba thing that people forget he was a Rhodes scholar and studied at Oxford. I'm not sorry I voted for Bill Clinton. I'm sorry I voted for John McCain in the 2000 Virginia primary because he is allowing himself to be turned into the usual lying Republican slimeball running a smear campaign because he's roadkill on the issues and heads a party of corrupt Constitution killers who hide under the bed at night whimpering "make the scary terrorist go away". And by the way, why do Republicans hate smart people? Haven't we seen what having Dumb Dubya at the helm for eight years has done to this country? Do we really want another guy who doesn't know where Pakistan is and who relies on Joe "Wormtongue" Lieberman (for you Tolkien fans) to tell him what to say? Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to President War Hero. OBama for Virginia, Obama for America.

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Bill's not a racist but he sure is acting like a sore loser. Not all Republicans are bigots but it's a safe bet that bigots vote Republican. Bill got more white votes than most Democrats because he's so good at the Bubba thing that people forget he was a Rhodes scholar and studied at Oxford. I'm not sorry I voted for Bill Clinton. I'm sorry I voted for John McCain in the 2000 Virginia primary because he is allowing himself to be turned into the usual lying Republican slimeball running a smear campaign because he's roadkill on the issues and heads a party of corrupt Constitution killers who hide under the bed at night whimpering "make the scary terrorist go away". And by the way, why do Republicans hate smart people? Haven't we seen what having Dumb Dubya at the helm for eight years has done to this country? Do we really want another guy who doesn't know where Pakistan is and who relies on Joe "Wormtongue" Lieberman (for you Tolkien fans) to tell him what to say? Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to President War Hero. Obama for Virginia, Obama for America.



Posted by: greyparrot | August 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I see the Clinton supporters are still upset that they lost. lol Get over it....

Posted by: fdgdfgf | August 5, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is full of it.

anyone remember Bill's comments on Obama for the ad he ran against Hillary taking money from oil companies and Bill's response was "Next we will see ads that say, vote for me I don't steal cars"


Bill said a lot of nasty things in the Democrat primary and the fact that he's denying it is proof that he is a liar. It's sickening seeing so called Democrats still kiss up to him.

I'm voting for Obama.

Posted by: JEFO | August 5, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Clinton: I did not have sex with that woman! I am not a racist.

McCain: I did not marry into the mob!

Obama: I am not black!

Who do you believe? Who are you voting for? Why?

Me? I don't think it is a sin to be an imperfect black man in America. But a guy who ditched his first wife and then married into the mob?

I don't think so.

And have you all lost your minds?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 5, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Obama deserves to lose in November. He is not a leader and will never achieve the accomplishments of nor the admiration that this country has of President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton. All he and his supporters/surrogates can do is spread their venom of hatred toward the Clintons and cry racism whenever 'the One I haven't been waiting for' is challenged on any issue or qualification. Obama is just another opportunistic politician, willing to do anything, say anything and deny anything to get elected. I'm a life-long Democrat, but will vote for Senator McCain this November. And, I'm pretty sure there are millions just like me who feel the same way and can see through this charade!

Posted by: mpwynn@spro.net | August 5, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

A RACIST IS, WHAT A RACIST DOES!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we all know about Bubba Clinton too. I did not have sex with that women.We all know that's a lie. He used the raced card on Obama BUT HE WILL NOT ADMIT IT.He didn't use it so much to help Hill in the campaign, he used it because he saw Obama as the next Dem leader, and he couldn't take it.He was willing to throw African Americans under the bus he was so angry.
African americans who stood by him when the whole country was against him.Because he couldn't not except the fact that he was no longer top dog in the party. He need to keep his mouth close and go away just like Hill has done.So what I would say to old Bubba Clinton, go on and make your millions how ever you make them and go away.No one wants to hear from you anymore. BYE BYE

Posted by: tygirl | August 4, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is still enormously popular with the American people, including the AA community. (Most recognize that SC was a political tactic which was justified to have the first black president, which many feel is long overdue.) The press has always had a tin ear regarding Clinton's popularity. A small but vocal crowd of anti-Clintonites always tries to dominate and intimidate.

Posted by: Scott | August 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

BubbaJeff played the race card.

No doubt about it.

Posted by: Chuckamok | August 4, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I am certain it was the Obama camp that played the race card on the Clintons. The logic was obvious-Bill clinton was feared as a formidable resource for the Hillary Campaign and the Obama campaign jumed at the opportunity to 'neutralize' him. People so easily forget that the "Clinton has injected race into the campaign" noise did not start with the comments he made abt Jesse Jackson also winning in South Carolina,but with the 'Fairy tale' remark which any fair-minded person would agree was take way out of context.

The shame of it all was the tacit endorsement given to those allegations by the black leadership. I personally feel it wasn't so much the 'jesse jackson also won in SC' comment as the idea that BC was trying to stand in the way of the first black man with a good chance at getting to the whitehouse-i suspect some resentment grew toward the clintons as trying to stand in the way of that opportunity. It's a shame to the democratic party that Bill clinton, one of the most successful presidents in recent times, was treated so disrespectfully and unfairly

Posted by: John | August 4, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

With all the rhetoric about President Clinton - and I still believe that he deserves that title - I am an African-American educator who appreciates all that the Clintons have done for all Americans - including people of color. All of this rhetoric about him being a racist is just that - rhetoric. I believe that we need to stop nip-picking and realize that in the heat of a political campaign that, of course, he wanted his wife to win, they all say things that are misconstrued. So what - Jesse Jackson DID win the primary in South Carolina. President Clinton, you are still loved by most African-Americans.
Peace and goodwill to him.

Posted by: Arlene Ginn | August 4, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

"his palpable poor loser behavior during and following the primaries"

Ya gotta suspect that BubbaZipper ain't quaht raht, after his surgery.

His temper - and other disreputable qualities - aren't under control.

I'm SO glad that he and The Beast will never darken the doors of the White House again.

But he may redeem himself somewhat if, in the future, his efforts to help Africans bear fruit.

Posted by: Chuckamok | August 4, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

LOL, that was me who said I was jeffp. jeffp YOU ARE A STUPID JACKASS. THAT RAPE WAS NEVER PROVEN AND WAS ONLY A DIRTY TRICK THE REPUBLICANS TRIED TO USE TO ATTACK CLINTON AFTER THE LEWINSKY SCANDAL FAILED FOR THEM

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I'M Sorry, I REALIZED I'M A COMPLETE JACKASS

Posted by: jeffp | August 4, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

longroad, I'M AFRAID YOUR BLACK NATIONALISM IS PATHETIC

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

longroad, I'M AFRAID YOUR BLACK NATIONALISM IS PATHETIC

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

ron, BUSH SIGNED CAFTA INTO LAW YOU STUPID IDIOT

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Bill Clinton is a racist but I think his wife's campaign tried to exploit some racial divisions that may exist. With that said, I think Bill brought race up when he was asked a question that had nothing to do with it because he want to weigh in on the accusations by the McCain camp that Obama played the race card!

Posted by: Sean | August 4, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

BS. John Edwards ran for President as a first term senator too. And what is that guy's claim to fame? Ambulance chaser. Tabloid hero. 70s hair guy.

I am, to borrow from one of Hillary's signature phrases, a "hard working American, a white American," and I'm voting for Barack Obama.

Why? Because he's the better candidate and, more importantly, because I agree with his policies for peace, prosperity, health care, education and the environment.

Posted by: Whitey Bulger | August 4, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.
If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?"
source ->
obama.senate.gov/news/050626-when_it_comes_to_race_obama_ma/

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama knows that his race, not his actual experience, is the main element buoying his campaign now, so he must attempt to subtly bring it up whenever he thinks it will be expedient.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Part of what makes life fun is that people aren't robots, but sentient beings fueled by hopes, dreams and, yes, drama.

But computers can keep track of certain things better than people, who often have selective memories.

For example, take the Clinton Attack Database.

http://clintonattacksobama.pbwiki.com/Incident+Tracker

In the old world, people could lie, cheat and steal with impunity. In the new world, the information era, the truth comes out, sticks around and becomes magnified over time.

Republicans thrived in the old world. They will have to remake themselves to survive in the new world. That is progress.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Check the video, all of his comments are in print.

Posted by: kevin | August 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The fact is that Clinton screwed over the democratic party by offering up his chin - along with his lower parts - for free punches and kicks by the Republican sleaze machine.

You women who are pissed that Hillary lost fair and square can go ahead and vote for a party that took women's rights out of its platform in 1980. And left it out.

Sleep with dogs. It's your bed.

If your guy wins, I'll pay less in taxes; but you'll end up with fleas.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Let us be realistic, the only ones who brought up the race issue in this campaign has been Barak Obama and the Democrats. They used race and by the end of the Democratic Primaries used race to divide our nation between African American and White ethnic Americans. By the end of the Primaries Obama was almost exclusively was garnering a monolithic African American Voters and exclusive a Radical Far Left Wing liberal Vote against Hillary Clintons coalition of middle class ethnic workers, Women, Hispanics, Jews, Average every day Americans who do most of the living, working and dying in the United States.

Shall we all forget it was Obama's Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. and his Church the Trinity United Church of Christ, that really first injected Race with his Tirade about Hillary Clinton., Shall we forget that inspiring speech Obama made about Race comparing his White Grandmother who raised him to a "Typical White Person" who sometimes said thing that "Made Him Cringe". Shall we forget that he equated his Grandmother to Rev. Wrights hate speech against Whites and America? Shall we forget it was Obama who dared to call the first Women to run for National Office, Geraldine Ferraro a Racist in that same Speech? Shall we forget it was Obama who ran a commercial telling White Voters about his White Kansas roots (forgetting he was born and raised in Hawaii) and that they don't have to be afraid of him. In the next breath Obama goes before a group of African American financial backers and tell them "they (the big bad White Racist Conservative Republicans) are going to use his race against him." Remember it was Obama who described suburban and rural middle class Americans "As angry WHTIE PEOPLE who refuse to give up their guns." Remember it was Obama who told the people of Germany, after he arrogantly insisted he be treated like the President of the United States, that "they never had any other American Politician who looked like him address them".

All of this is nothing more then the Plantation Politics of the Old Cook County Democratic Party Machine of Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago. The McCain ad made no mention Overtly or Subliminally of Obama's race or racial background. The reference was to his Celebrity Status not his color or, as in Tennessee with Harold Ford Jr., a reference to a possible mix racial sexual encounter. The only person who cried Race was Obama because he fears to have his record. and positions challenged. The fact is if the adds McCain have been running have not worked why has Obama lost his lead in the National Polls and the Battleground States are now all toss ups (less then two weeks ago Obama had over 325 electoral votes locked up in the state by state polls and now Obama is below the 272 electoral votes needed to be elected). Not only have the McCain ads been affective but Obama has added to his own problems because of his Arrogance and Elitism, and his demand to be anointed the next coming before he was even elected. Obama has turned this election into a referendum about himself not George W. Bush. Now that he again lost his lead he is trying the old tactic he used against the Clintons to win in November. Shall we forget that Obama threatened the Democratic National Committee with riots, 1967 style riots in the streets of Denver if he was not given the Nomination before he even wrapped up the Democratic Nomination. Shall we forget that Obama threatened the Democratic party to withhold African American votes for the November Election if he was not given the Nomination. Is Obama trying to do it again? The problem is all of his Racist and Race Baiting Speech will only infuriate the rest of the voting block Obama needs to win the General Election. Jews, White Ethnics, Asians and even Hispanics and Native Americans do not want to hear this B.S. from Obama.

If Obama cannot stand the heat he should get out of the Kitchen and let someone else be the Democratic Candidate for President. He is now looked upon as the little boy who cried wolf. You can only cry Racism so many times and then no one really wants to believe you anymore. That is where Obama is at. It is fair to criticize Obama's policies, his voting record. It is fair to look upon Obama's public relationships to determine how Obama will govern the Nation. Rev Wright, Williams Ayers, Father Pflager, Louis Farrakhan, the Daily Kos, MoveOn.Org and now the Rapper Ludicrous with his racist music video are all part of Obama's public circle of friends and supporters and the American People has a right to scrutinize Obama over these relationships, they tell us who Obama really is. Whether Obama likes it or not, "We Are Defined By the Friends We Keep." Obama did just that with McCain's associations who are Washington Lobbyists. No one called Obama racist for challenging McCain for those associations. As long as there is no overt or subliminal message of Race or Racism these associations are fair game. (Shall we forget that McCain made the North Carolina Republican Party take down ads trying to associate Obama's questionable associates with the Democratic candidate for Governor.) It is only Obama and the Democrats who want to talk about race,. Wasn't Obama the one who was going to transcend Race and end the Racial Divide in our Nation?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'm glad some of you who defended Bill Clinton 8 years ago have finally seen the light (I bet you wish he had been convicted now ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

: Naked

Well, JakeD, go ahead and show me some.
the article outlined the ones by Obama.
So if you have got any, now's the time.Or we can presume she doesn't.

Not the least because if she did, Obamabots would have them plastered all over the net.

This is why the WP needs to do this kind of article. Its not like it's news or anything.
-gala1


Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

What is clear, Bill Clinton, is that you are a Judas to the Democrats for not backing the current leader of your party.

Lots of us will remember Bill Clinton more for this failure, that for whatever racists, sexists, or ANYist actions he may or may not have taken in his life.

The Clintons will never get my support back.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Someday, being black or another color or gender will not be considered as a qaulification. I would, myself, would rather be hired for a job because I am qaulified.

Obama is playing it, has been doing for a long time and while one had is doing one thing behind his back, the other is out in front in magician style making us believe he is doing another. Change? Just hands.

Posted by: cybersense | August 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

gala1:

I'm not asking the same question because I don't care -- I am glad Obama is the nominee rather than Clinton -- but, to follow your own logic, how do you know there were no contingencies placed on any given amount, or that said amount was not directly tied to buying their vote?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

gala1:

Hillary Clinton donated to superdelegates too, so what's the big deal?

Posted by: Jake

certainly she did.
but there were no contingencies placed on the amount.
Nor were the amount directly tied to buying their vote.

why isn't the Post doing anything about reporting on how Obama has bought supergdelgate votes and naming who those were that were bought?

And if you wonder abut that too , when are you going to start asking the same question?

-gala1


here's some essential reading:

http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/07/bamboozling-the.html

-gala1

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"We've"?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 4:37 PM


Nope, "We're" according to GW's language skill "strategery"

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Yes, "We've" FakeJakeD. I'm back from lunch.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

"We've"?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

We're never been stay the course, George.
--George W. Bush

10/22/2006
in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, attempting to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the previous three years

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm back from lunch.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

This is the Barack Obama Playbook in action.

Start to look bad because of your sophomoric, or pompus or insensitive actions or statements, trout out the Race card and pretend to be victimized.

Start to look bad when someone calls you on your own flip flops or obvious pandering, trout out the new stand-by line, "this is the old politics that everyone is sick and tired of, I am about hope and change" and again pretend to be victimized.

We should all be used to seeing these plays after seeing Barack Obama in action these past few months. If not, we should start getting used to them now because we are all going to see this same Barack Obama Playbook maneuver run over and over again in ever more creative variations.

Posted by: 49erfaithful | August 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.
If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?"
So the big advantage in America is to be black? Or is that if you want to be President being black in America is the advantage? Now the book maybe but Prsident in America he is not the first.
His words, not mine...
Why did the Obama campaign vilify Geraldine Ferraro (a fellow dem) for daring to say the same thing?
Obama has nothing except the percieved novelty of being the first black POTUS.
David Axelrod's specialty is/was getting AA politicians elected. He figured out an angle to play on white guilt. Now the cat's out of the bag and everyone is tired of it. It's not going to work this time. Despite what you think the reason his detractors won't support him has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with his arrogance, lack of experience, his monumental flip flops and his bizarre collection of racist, terrorist, criminal friends and close associates who have shaped who he is for the last 20 years or so.
He himself said he was not ready ->
Obama 2004: I can't see running for President
Again, his words not mine...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is not a racist - do you agree? [VOTE] http://www.thriveorfail.com/c8579

Posted by: Kevin K. | August 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton's right, he's no racist in the usual way. And probably he doesn't qualify either in the sense David Gergen indicated yesterday on ABC's This Week -- that is, as originator of coded critiques regarding Obama uppitiness. (Gergen pinned this charge on the McCain campaign.)

But Bill Clinton may qualify with some historians as a dog in the manger who, constitutionally barred from resuming as President, prevented his wife from nomination as Obama's VP running mate, doing so by his palpable poor loser behavior during and following the primaries.

Posted by: FirstMouse | August 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

If you tell the truth or criticize Obama in any way, you are deemed racist by the Obama fans. Calling the Clintons' remarks racist was a big mistake, and Obama not addressing the lies as he should have lost a lot of Democrats who admire the Clintons. Now, he's trying the same thing with McCain and he's going to lose more voters.

If anyone owes an apology, it is Barack Obama for sitting silently for 20 years and listening to Black Liberation Theology that encourages resentment and hatred of white Americans and Europeans. Obama hides his resentment better than Michelle, but both had to agree with Wright's nonsense or they couldn't have stood hearing it for all those years. I have no doubt both would still be there if Wright hadn't called Obama what he is: a politician who will say whatever it takes to get elected.

I am sick to death of being accused by the Obama fans of being racist, and when you accuse the Clintons and John McCain, you are accusing me. I am sick of the nastiness and smart-a$$ attitudes coming from Obama and company, too. The hateful, vulgar, divisive, sexist, and ageist remarks they constantly make are not appreciated by civilized people, either. I have plenty of company, looks like, and we are going to do all we can to defeat Obama in November. Maybe next time he runs for office (which should be for local office in Chicago), he will ditch the dirty Chicago political ploys and learn to be honest instead of being a hypocrite. He might also try some objective thinking about what being American is all about.

Obama has divided the Democratic party. Is this the "change" he's been talking about? He has insulted President Clinton and tried to tear down the Clinton legacy, but he hasn't succeeded. As his favorite spiritual mentor would say: Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Posted by: Judy Kilgore | August 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

bbode, I am the REAL JakeD fool!

The FAKE JakeD is out in the dentist getting his braces fixed or playing red rover with his friends.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Don't know to whom I'm responding except to the post addressed to me at 2.37 by Corruption Anonymous or is it some variation on JakeD?

In any case, as to your question re: why McCain would marry into a mobbed up family and your comments regarding Goldwater's early ties in Arizona politics, there's an interesting and detailed article here: http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_219.html

My interest was/is in Don Bolles the courageous investigative reporter blown up by the gang in Arizona in 1976. Arguably, McCain didn't know about any of that except somewhat later later because he didn't meet Cindy Hensley until 1979 or 1980 and married her in 1980.

By then, her father had long since been awarded the beer distributorship for taking the fall for one of his "supervisors." Amusingly, Rehnquist was her father's lawyer at the time. Kinda makes one wonder about the $10 million Rehnquist institute old anti-pork McCain was trying to get for Arizona recently that Obama called him on.

Her family background also makes McCain's connection to the Keating 5 and Charles Keating in particular, much more understandable. As is Keating's continued regard for McCain.

Posted by: bbode | August 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

He also did not have sex w/ "that woman" (a 20 Y old)
He also is not his Senator wife's bag man collecting millions from Dubai while she sits in the Senate shaping US Mideast policy.
She is also "from NY" where she spent maybe a grand total of a month before she decided to take the seat away from NY women who had earned it over decades.
Oh wait, I forgot. It depends on what you mean by "is."
Oh & bbode Hillary feminist is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Martha | August 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Fake JakeD,

Lunch? Please. Give me a break. Is that all you can come up with? Your mom is probably cutting off your computer time and that is your excuse.

The FakeJakeD is out to lunch, the REALJakeD remains here and will continue to remain here and defend President Clinton.

Why would some conservative zealot end up living in such a liberal area such as San Diego? Obviously, the FakeJakeD does not know what he is talking about. FLIP-FLOPPER!

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

WE LOVE PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON,

If David Axelrod, Michelle and Barrack Obama had not played the race care with Oprahs help, we would not be talking today about this new inexperienced typical lying flip flopping politican with a wife and preacher of twenty plus years who hates white americans.

Posted by: DEMS NEED HILLARY | August 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

And the roar from the crowd: "Who cares?"

Posted by: Debra | August 4, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

So let's all agree that while Bill may be many things - including slippery - he's not a racist.

Just a politician who'll do and say just about anything.

Time for the jury here on the post blog to render a verdict: what sayeth ye?

CA VOTES: Not guily as charged.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

That would be quite a coincidence that two retired lawyers living in San Diego are posting diametrically opposite views here at the same time. As for the underlying matter on Clinton's perjury charge, that is irrelevant to the Articles of Impeachment -- he could have been lying under oath about the sky not being blue -- Congress had the ultimate legal power to impeach and convict Clinton. Who knows, maybe if Nixon had decided to fight his impeachment, he could have won in the Senate too.

For everyone else:

I will be out to lunch and won't be posting for at least an hour. Any "JakeD" post during that time is obviously fake.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Oil takes a big dip
Crude briefly slips below $120 a barrel as a tropical storm misses Gulf facilities and Obama signals that he might back some further off-shore drilling.

***********

Now the messiah will state that he has always been for offshore drilling and the price of Oil will drop another $15!

Follow Moses to the promised land of CHEAP OIL!!!!!

Posted by: Barack Obama | August 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Last time I checked those Articles of Impeachment, "getting his roger tended to" was not included -- Perjury and Obstruction of Justice, however, was included -- YMMV.

Posted by: FakeJakeD | August 4, 2008 2:29 PM
**********

"obstruction" to an investigation on the private affairs of individuals, FakeJakeD.

the only people with the moral and legal authority to judge Bill in that circumstance were Hillary, Chelsea, and the Rodham/Clinton families. not redneck Congressmen, Senators, political pundits around the US.

GET THAT STRAIGHT.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Corruption Anonymous:

I have no idea why someone would co-opt my handle -- obviously just to post the exact opposite sometimes -- they must be very upset about my posts, though.

I am the REAL JakeD, out of San Diego, CA, retired.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

JC_VA:

That was the fake JakeD -- mark my words, I will ALWAYS defend Bill Clinton -- if you have any question about that, please let me know.


Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Let's all face it - Bill Clinton is a lying sack of sh*t.

Posted by: Pragmatic Pete | August 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

re: bbode

Thanks for the honest remarks.

Obviously, anyone who's followed politics closely knows that Hillary was on Bill's "defense committee" in '92 and that she most certainly is not an idealistic, committed feminist.

Similarly, anyone who's followed Arizona politics closely knows that while Nixon is often given credit for the "Southern Strategy" that credit is really due Barry Goldwater, William Rehnquist et. al. for their 'wonderful' work with Operation Eagle Eye in 1964.

Why Sen. McCain would want to be part of Arizona politics - and marry into a well known crime family with links from Hensley to Marley to Lansky to Bronfman - is beyond me.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

JC_VA:

That was the fake JakeD -- mark my words, I will never defend Bill Clinton -- if you have any question about that, please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The MSM has never been fair to the Clintons. Perhaps it was easier for him to say what he figured you wanted to hear. AND ... don't get me started on racism other than to say this: Blacks can call black people black. However, Hillary as a white woman, was widely criticized for calling white people white. GO FIGURE.

Posted by: PamelaofthePoconos | August 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Corruption Anonymous:

I have no idea why someone would co-opt my handle -- obviously just to post the exact opposite sometimes -- they must be very upset about my posts, though.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

JakeD stop drinking Clinton KoolAid!

You may not be consciously aware of it, but your point on "welfare" reform is inherently wrong and racist! You are contributing "welfare" reform as a Black issue, although studies reveal that Majority of welfare recipients are white and non-urban!

All of your other points are also factually incorrect and pretentious!

Furthermore, if you look at the HISTORICAL context of Bill Clinton, as I mentioned before, it's a lot of talk and no action.

Posted by: JC_VA | August 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Last time I checked those Articles of Impeachment, "getting his roger tended to" was not included -- Perjury and Obstruction of Justice, however, was included -- YMMV.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The Franchise:

I won't call him a racist, either, but I wouldn't put that past him as well.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:19 PM
*****

unlike the Fake JakeD who is clearly a xenophobe.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

As a long time civil rights activist, long time feminist and formerly, until South Carolina, a long time Bill Clinton fan, in addition to being a white woman of a certain age who has been an Obama supporter ever since Iowa, I'm deeply troubled by many of the comments posted here.

I have seen no indication from African Ameircans disrespecting the hard and dangerous work many of us undertook during the early days of the civil rights movement. Calling Bill Clinton "the first Black President" was not a matter of race but of the details of his background, not his experiences -- how many black Boys State reps were there? how many black Rhodes Scholars? not to mention how many black students in Bill's law school class? -- and a recognition of his empathy for the challenges brought on by racial differences in our country. But that doesn't give him a free pass to make hurtful remarks.

Similarly, simply because Hillary was well positioned to run for President, thanks to her marriage, ie her role as First Lady, and her seat in the Senate, doesn't give her a free pass to the Presidency.

And to all my feminist sisters, do note, even Hillary admitted in her Building Museum speech that she didn't run as a woman and as a feminist but as "the best candidate" for the job. "Iron my Shirt" boys were a joke created one night by her campaign. And, in fact, with the exception of Solis Doyle, all her paid campaign consultant leadership was male.

My comments are not meant to deny the obvious sexism of many in the media and among the voters but rather to say that Hillary, to her credit and given her campaign's strategy, generally rose above it.

That Michelle Obama is also trying to rise above the sexism, exacerbated by racism, is something, sadly, to a great extent being ignored by the Hillary feminists. Kind of makes you wonder how sincere the cries of "sexism" are. And I question the lack of support for her as one who was active in establishing the early women's political organizations.

In sum, if you prefer a Clinton candidate to Obama or McCain, fine. Or if McCain is your choice over Obama, fine. Your privilege. But don't drape yourself in the flags of feminism or pretend to be opposed to racism or to be pained on behalf of those of us who fought beside Dr. King in the Civil Rights movement. That rhetoric is deeply distasteful and dishonest.

Posted by: bbode | August 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

We've got three months 'til the election. And I'm sure everything will become clear in time.

Why would someone co-opt your handle, though?

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Even if it had meant a President Gore running as an incumbent against Bush in 2000, Bill Clinton should have resigned. Even Richard Nixon had the good sense to do that.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:18 PM
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yes FakeJakeD, because ransacking the rival political party offices for political gain is exactly the same as getting his roger tended to.

was it inmoral? Yes.
was it illegal? No.
was it anybody's business outside of Bill's and Hillary's families? No.
CASE CLOSED AND GET LOST!

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

...and ... i MUST say again ... i didn't have sex with that woman' nor thet wooman ...nor the one ov'r thar ... nor enyover wooomn

Posted by: jake | August 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

The Franchise:

I won't call him a racist, either, but I wouldn't put that past him as well.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

CA:

If you have any question about who the fake JakeD is (I'm the one who will always defend Bill Clinton), let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Even if it had meant a President Gore running as an incumbent against Bush in 2000, Bill Clinton should have resigned. Even Richard Nixon had the good sense to do that.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

...and''''i didn't have sex with that woman'''''

Posted by: jake | August 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

CA:

If you have any question about who the fake JakeD is (I'm the one who will never defend Bill Clinton), let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

My grandmother used to say "a guilty conscience has no accusers". Sounds like Billy Bubba has a very bad case of Lady Macbeth - OUT D*MN SPOT.

I won't call him a racist, but I do remember how quickly he threw Joycelynn Elders and Lani Guinier under the bus when the heat got too hot in the kitchen!

Shame on you Bill Clinton!

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

P.S. From my firsthand view, his was an average presidency at best that only looks good when compared to the last eight years.

Posted by: The Franchise | August 4, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Corruption Anonymous:

If he had just resigned in shame like he should have, we wouldn't have spent all that time on impeachment

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:11 PM
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Fake JakeD.

yeas, because maybe with Gore as President he would've had EVEN more time to perfect the internets!

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Ooh, I'm sorry that Hillary wasn't at all the Gore fundraisers like you say she was supposed to be CA.

Wasn't Hillary running for a Senate seat in NY with the possibility of having to run against Giuliani? Yes, that was gonna be a CAKE WALK!!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"I am not a racist...and I did not have sex with that woman [Monica Lewinsky]"

Posted by: Racist White Pigs for Obama | August 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Corruption Anonymous:

If he had just resigned in shame like he should have, we wouldn't have spent all that time on impeachment

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who noticed that in the papers with a consistently negative bias against Obama the words EXXON-MOBILE crop up? The oil company that's worth 12 billion is paying the Washingtonpost for ad space. Also check out www.cbsnews.com. The words: Presented by Exxon-Mobile drop out at you.
DON'T LET BIG-OIL DECIDE YOUR ELECTION.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Is Bill Clinton a racist? Honestly, I do not know for certain but I want to say no. However, all I see from the Clinton's history with the African American community is a lot of WORDS & NO ACTION!

Posted by: JC_VA | August 4, 2008 2:03 PM
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Please, Bill got millions off welfare, expanded the economy and as a result thousands of hundreds of blacks found jobs and got off welfare.

Further, google up the Minority AIDS Initiative and let us know what you find about that.

Finally, google up Clinton Foundation and look at the amount of time and money he has invested into Africa. He didn't need to, he could've just gone on the speech circuit and retired like Bush Sr.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is a politician. He'll do or say just about anything to get elected. Just like , according to Katherine Willy, he'll do or say just about anything to get laid.

Bill Clinton doesn't care about black people. Bill Clinton doesn't care about white people. Bill Clinton doesn't care about the American people.

If he had cared, he would have been more disciplined. And he wouldn't have hurt his reputation, his family's reputation, his party's positioning at the time, and the country's interests.

If we hadn't spent all that time on impeachment, the resources of government would have been more focused on terrorism, peace and prosperity.

Clinton knew he was playing in a bloodsport contest. There was a book by James Stewart with that title, in fact, that chronicled the times. And he led with his jaw and his balls and gave the Republicans open shots at him and the democratic party.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Is Bill Clinton a racist? Honestly, I do not know for certain but I want to say no. However, all I see from the Clinton's history with the African American community is a lot of WORDS & NO ACTION!

Posted by: JC_VA | August 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous at 1:50 PM:

Are you saying that Bill Clinton's midnight basketball program was not "meaningful"?! Shame of you ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

re: Bill Clinton and blacks

I think that many blacks related to Bill Clinton because he's a, what's the word, player. Most blacks grow up in a one family home- they understand the notion that papa is a rolling stone. They probably think they 'get' Bill.

And I think he did help them. If Bill didn't reform welfare then Obama could never have won the nomination. Just as the Clintons are too divisive now, Obama in a welfare state would have been too divisive.

Bill helped the blacks who got off welfare, and he paved the way for a black President.

It is ironic.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

CA:

At least McCain answers the question on the Straight Talk Express ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain how "I am not a racist, I never made a racist comment, and I didn't attack him personally" is a responsive answer to the question: "Do you personally have any regrets about what you did campaigning for your wife?"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The same way that "Jesse Jackson won here twice" was a substantive answer to "What does it say that it takes two Clintons to beat Obama?"

It's all about the talking points and controlling the news cycle with a message that is going to divide people and help them.

Posted by: CA | August 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

JakeD or whoever,

Bill Clinton was a politician and the best of politician at that. However, it's a undisputed fact that Bill Clinton Bamboozled blacks as one of them. In substance issues, however, Clinton didn't actually advance any meaningful Black cause during his presidency. No major Civil rights advancement; no new major funding of failing inner city schools; no meaningful reform on sentencing disparities of Blacks Vs Whites etc. Bill Clinton did not issue any executive order to address many pressing black issues. That is a fact. On the other hand, Blacks stuck out for him in his darkest moments--through Monica impeachments!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It's not a lie.

And Gore didn't reject help from the Clintons, he decided to run independently so as to not get associated with so-called Clinton fatigue. They knew that.

However, Gore had every expectation that the Shaheen's would turn out the vote in NH, and he used Billy's law offices for that purpose, which was done half-heartedly.

I voted for Bill twice. I have no reason to lie against him. Lord knows he's done enough to ruin his own reputation.

But the fact is that Hillary and Bill undercut Gore in 2000 at every fundraiser and every step of the way. She wasn't at those fundraisers trying to help Gore get money, like she was supposed to be, she was, in true Clinton fashion, there getting money for herself.

As for the "democratic establishment" supporting Hillary. McAuliff set up super Tuesday so that no one could compete with her brand name. She had a huge superdelegate lead.

Some of the establishment waited, due to character concerns, and then supported Obama after Bill's "Jess Jackson" bs in SC.

But Clinton won Penn because of Rendell and the machine there, she won Ohio because of Strickland and the machine there, and she won Mass because of Menino and the machine there, and there are districts in NY that Obama supposedly didn't win a single vote in because of Ferraro and the dirty machine there.

Clinton had the support of the establishment. But this isn't 1960 and it wasn't enough. The voters went for Obama.

Posted by: CA | August 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic:

Can someone explain how "I am not a racist, I never made a racist comment, and I didn't attack him personally" is a responsive answer to the question: "Do you personally have any regrets about what you did campaigning for your wife?"

Does he "regret" not saying that at the time? Does he "regret" not fighting back against the race card specifically?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

The fake JakeD is a homophobe racist.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Banning gay-marriage (and all the other special rights homosexuals have) would help reduce the AIDS rates here in the U.S.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Fake JakeD at 1:36PM.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Fake JakeD at 1:26pm,

listen man, get lost you whiney punk! Go get your own screen name, loser!

post your contact information if you think you are the REAL JakeD!

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Another fake JakeD at 1:33 PM.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton bamboozled Blacks to believe that he's one of them--hence, the first black president! He's no different than other politicians, except he succeeded to fool the blacks. If you look objectively, GW has done more tangible things for the issues concerned by AA--for example, the AIDS funding. GW quadrupled AIDS funds in Africa. Clinton is basically in denial.

Posted by: | August 4, 2008 1:31 PM

***********

That isnt helping the increased AIDS rates in the US.

Minority AIDS Initiative was started under the Clinton Administration.

Before you run, you have go to learn how to walk my dear friend.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Fake JakeD at 1:31 PM. My initial post to "Corruption Anonymous" was spot on.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I voted for Bill twice- only because he couldn't run a third time.

But he is, how shall we say, a slippery character.

Supporting the execution of Ricky Ray Rector, a guy so retarded he saved the desert from his last meal for after his execution, definitely qualified as "taking one for the [democratic] team". As did his fine work in welfare reform.

The democratic party is stronger now thanks to Bill Clinton. If only he hadn't had his Clinton-bad-dog-in-heat side. He could have been a modern day Jefferson. Jefferson saw two of his liuts success him in DC. Gore and Hillary both were hurt by Bill's selfishness.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey fake JakeD, why dont you post your real address? huh?

Listen loser, get lost!

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

DCDave:

Come on, we all can admit now that Hillary claimed one of the justifications for her staying in the race is that Obama could be assassinated. That was a low blow, right?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton bamboozled Blacks to believe that he's one of them--hence, the first black president! He's no different than other politicians, except he succeeded to fool the blacks. If you look objectively, GW has done more tangible things for the issues concerned by AA--for example, the AIDS funding. GW quadrupled AIDS funds in Africa. Clinton is basically in denial.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

That is a lie Corruption Anonymous.

Gore wanted to split with Clinton, the same way McCain wants a split with W now. In situations like these, the nominee seeks a split with incumbent to give a sign of independence from the past. Gore did not seek the Clinton's help until it was too late.

By the time he came around to realize that he might actually lose the election he asked for the Clinton's help, by that time it was too late.

Sure, like any presidency Bill's had its problems, but overall it was absurd for Gore and the Democratic Party to outright reject any sort of help from the Clintons, the Clintons made the Democratic Party relevant again after 16 years of incompetence. That, in part, was why this year a lot of the Democratic establishemnt did not embrace Hillary's candidacy as everyone thought they would.

Now Obama might win, and the Democrats will have a majority in both houses, but failure to deliver on their promises can lead to a quick 4 years for Obama until a new Republican majority moves in.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

gala1:

Hillary Clinton donated to superdelegates too, so what's the big deal?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The idea that Bill Clinton is a racist is ludicrous. Take a look at the charitable work, his civil rights record, what people actually involved in the civil rights movement etc.... have said about him.

Nothing Bill or Hillary said during the entire primary was remotely close to being racist. The only dirty pool that was played over those comments was pretending they were saying something they were not.

The problem Obama is having right now is that he made up a bunch of false allegations about racism to win the primary, and now he is trying to do the same thing to win the general election. This is a really dangerous game for Obama to play because he has already badly overplayed his hand on this issue.

Posted by: DCDave | August 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Corruption Anonymous:

The Clintons will definitely work to undermine Obama, regardless of what Kevin thinks.

Fake JakeD:

Keep it up -- I get paid by the post -- regardless of who posts ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain = FEAR

Obama = HOPE

Clintons = FAIL

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

If you read nothing else about this election, you need to read this. Twice:

http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/07/bamboozling-the.html

The second time, read it in sections and take notes. So you can start contemplating why what went down and what didn't.

bill Clinton would do well to use this article for the outline of the book we'll all be buying in January.
Unfortunately at the start of four more years of GOP mismanagement.

Thanks to the actions of the Obamabots who foisted an unelectable candidate onto the ticket. And now you'll know why that happened.

It's no enough that Karl Rove, bagman for Cheney, has put us onto a war where we are paying for both sides. Now he is controlling the election from both sides.
And the press is letting that happen.


but we need to start asking the WP why it hasn't reported ever on how Obama is buying up superdelegates with political contributions to their own campaigns.

You can foist Obama onto the ticket, but you can't get us to vote for him-- essentially what Karl Rove has master-planned all along

-gala1

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I worked the Gore campaign in 2000 in NH and can tell you firsthand that the Clinton people undermined him there. And if he had won NH we would have won the Presidency.

The thinking was: give Bush 2000, he'll be a one-term Pres because there'll be a recession, and Hillary will waltz in in 2004.

I imagine she did the same thing in 2004 to Kerry that she's doing now. Not encouraging her network, at a real level, to support the dem candidate so that it preserves her future chances. Why do you think Kerry was backing Obama?

Gore stayed on the sidelines 'til the end of the campaign. Not because he likes the Clinton's, but because he knows exactly how vicious and vindictive they are.

Nasty, vicious people. And they'll never get the black vote again, or the dem intellectual vote. Hillary is done.

And the Republicans HATE her (filegate etc.).

She's played out.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

1992 was also no different, DESPITE DIRTY TRICKS

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Well said Kevin, I think I;m going to have to retract myself on the stupid moronic comments I have made so far.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, I SAW THE VIDEO IN 1998. HE ALSO DOES MANY TRIPS TO AFRICA A YEAR FOR CHARITY WORK. HE WON THE PRESIDENCY FAIR AND SQUARE IN 1996 AND KEPT THE ECONOMY AFLOAT

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

William Jefferson Clinto was the best president the country has had in the past 20 years.

And I am going to eat my shorts.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Kevin:

Did you see the YouTube video of your "hero" Bill Clinton denying "sexual relations"?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

THAT'S OBVIOUS JakeD, BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPORTING HIS WIFE.

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Kevin:

He did not support Obama before the primary voting was done. Now, did you see the YouTube video of your "hero" Bill Clinton, or not?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I am not defending Bill Clinton -- he did not deserve to be President -- I wouldn't put it past him to have arranged this entire trip to Africa just so that he could say "I am not a racist" upon his return.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

VJ Machiavelli, YOU ARE ONE PATHETIC JACK-OFF. HE HAS SUPPORTED OBAMA, AND ANY VOTE AGAINST OBAMA FROM CLINTON SUPPORTERS WILL NOT BE BECAUSE BILL TOLD THEM TO SUPPORT MCCAIN, BUT BECAUSE OF DISGUST FOR OBAMA AND HIS MEDIA CROONIES

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Clinton played the race card in South Carolina. Everyone knew it, and that's why the dem establishment came out in strong support of Obama right afterwards.

There used to be a youtube video from MSNBC of Eugene Robinson's analysis the day of the So Carolina primary, but I guess the Clintons had that removed.

There was a subtle racial element to the Clinton campaign prior to So Carolina, where it became an overt element.

And on that day, the Clinton's lost the backing of the moral, progressive wing of the democratic party. For good.

They were busted.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

In other news, Morgan Freeman (one of my favorite actors) was hospitalized late last night after a serious car accident. Please pray for him and his passenger.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz2000:

I never said that playing the "gender card" was fine.

Kevin:

Did you watch the YouTube video showing that Bill Clinton did not deny only "Biblical" sex?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

NER, HE SAID THAT BECAUSE BLACK PRIDE/NATIONALISM IS VERY COMMON AMONG AFRICANS. HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OBAMA BEING INFERIOR BECAUSE OF HIS RACE.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

ryan, I CAPITALIZE MY MAIN ARGUMENTS. IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN USING A DAMN HIGH-LIGHTER

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Amazing that Bill Clinton finds it so hard to move past his meltdown during the primary. Get over it, rehab your image and go stump for Obama.

http://www.political-buzz.com

Posted by: matt | August 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Jess, YOU MAKE ME LAUGH, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY ACCEPT OLD AND UNPROVEN REPUBLICAN DIRTY TRICK ATTACKS AS FACTS

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Kevin you might need some professional help there buddy. I really dont know what to say to your rants. But whatever underlying issues you have, you might want to find a way to constructively release your anger. Oh and by the way, your Caps Lock is on. Might want to fix that.

Posted by: ryan | August 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

jeffp, I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF YOUR PATHETIC, OBAMA-HYPING NONSENSE. YOU MAKE ME LAUGH. I DESPISE BUSH, BUT I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN, TO TEACH THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA A FAIR LESSON. In 2012, I HOPE TO VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN.

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

ryan, BABY-MAKING SEX IS THE HOOK-UP PORTION. ARE YOU A STUPID IDIOT WHO HAS YET TO LEARN THE FULL FACTS OF LIFE. YOU'RE NOT AT ALL PLAYING THE RACE CARD, BUT YOU SURE ARE PLAYING THE OBAMA CARD, HOWEVER. I THINK HE WAS USING THOSE CIGARS TO GET HER AWAY FROM HIM. HE HARDLY EVER SMOKED, AND IT WAS LIKELY HE WAS SMOKING AGAIN THAT DAY BECAUSE HE WAS NERVOUS AND DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH IT. LEWINSKY IS A PATHETIC STEREOTYPICAL GROUPIE WHO LIKELY BLACKMAILED THAT SHE WOULD START ANOTHER PATHETIC PAULA JONES RUMOR IF THEY DIDN'T SPEND TIME TOGETHER. SHE DISGRACES BOTH WOMEN AND MORAL DECENTCY

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Kevin,

Stop yelling.

And I lived across the street from the Clintons in Little Rock. He is a humpy puppy, ready to jump on any vagina that is willing, and even some that were not.

If you don't believe that, you are an ignorant mess, and should be in the Bush administration.

Posted by: jeffp | August 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I fail to see what you don't understand.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 12:13 PM

I think you answered it for me, it is ok to play the gender card to get votes, but not the race card. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

If you put your rivals face on the $100 bill and he brings that up a month later is that playing the race card or is he just calling you out on your original tactic?
It sounds like an extremely weak argument to use to say that race baiting was involved, and if it was it originated with that $100 bill with Obama's face on it. Regardless, if you are a MCcain supporter you will not acknowledge this series of events and pass on responsibility to Obama for "race baiting".


Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

To Some Guy

THE NOBEL PRIZE-WINNING AFRICAN AMERICAN AUTHOR TONI MORRISON CALLED CLINTON "THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" IN AN ESSAY TO THE NEW YORKER IN OCTOBER OF 1998, AND IT WAS LATER ACCEPTED BY OTHER AFRICAN AMERICANS DURING A 2001 CONVENTION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS TOO. SHE CLAIMED HE HAD "EVERY TROUPE OF BLACKNESS: BORN POOR, SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLD, WORKING CLASS FAMILY, SAXOPHONE PLAYING, MCDONAlD'S AND JUNK-LOVING..." NOW MRS. MORRISON IS TRYING TO PATHETICALLY TAKE BACK HER STATEMENT AND SAY "PEOPLE MISUNDERSTOOD THAT STATEMENT, I WAS REFERRING TO THE WAY HE WAS BEING TREATED, ALA HIS SEX SCANDAL, AS A BLACK PERSON ON THE STREET: ALREADY GUILTY, ALREADY A PERP. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HIS REAL INSTINCTS ARE IN TERMS OF RACE." ANYBODY WHO HAS A BRAIN AND CAN COMPARE HER 1998 ESSAY TO HER PATHETIC TAKEBACK IN TIME MAGAZINE THIS PAST MAY WILL REALIZE SHE HAS CHANGED FROM AN HONEST, INDEPENDENT THINKER TO A PATHETIC, LYING CAMPAIGNER WHO IS TRYING TO PLAY THE RACE CARD TO GET OBAMA ELECTED.

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

YOU ARE ONE STUPID IDIOT. HE NEVER HAD BIBLICAL BABY-MAKING SEX WITH LEWINSKY. YOU ARE A PUPPET OF OBAMA WHO MAKES ME SICK. HOW ABOUT OBAMA LINE ABOUT TONY REZKO "WE SIMPLY WORKED WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL."

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:05 PM

No but he had oral sex in the oval office. Used cigars in special ways on his intern or whatever her "title" was.

What is Bible Baby making sex? The Clintons are famously known for their shady associates. Isnt this like the pot calling the kettle black, or am I now playing the race card.

Posted by: ryan | August 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

rac·ism

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz2000:

There's no difference -- Hillary repeatedly played the "gender card" -- just like Obama played the "race card". Regardless of the reactions. McCain was not going to stand back and let Obama paint him as a racist -- only now does Bill Clinton realize his mistake.

I fail to see what you don't understand.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I guess that depends on how you're defining "Racists" today, Bill.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The President that was referred to as the first black President, and located his office in Harlem has to defend he's not a racist!

Just shows Obama is throwing any questions of his character or policy as racism to deflect the substance of the issues!

This is not NEW CHANGE politics, this is FRAUD!

Posted by: theaz | August 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmmmm. Didn't Clinton also vow "I did not have sex with that woman"? Time for Billary to take a LONG vacation. Can't believe either one of them

Posted by: Vampirella | August 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Kevin:

The actual quote was not just about sex -- and he ADMITTED he misled the American public about it -- give it up, man.

"I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6yhEbEw9c

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Trust me they aren't ready for that, they would rather go on welfare and sit at starbucks and complain. No you tell me who is ruining America?

Posted by: DCDave | August 4, 2008 11:19 AM

Anyone who has to assure us he is trustworthy is probably is not.

The biggest welfare abuser I know are the oil companies and you is to programed to recognize it.

Being honest you would have to have said " I suspect they would rather go on welfare..." The fact is that you are not doing sociologic research and what you are giving is an opinion born out of ignorance not knowledge

Posted by: Ronnn | August 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Roger/Denver, YOU ARE PATHETIC. YOU SEEM TO HAVE THE IQ OF A FRIGGIN' SOAP-DISH

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Can someone who actually has an educated answer please tell me how Obama "Race Baited"?

Preferably KEVIN, since he is so angered by it, he must have an educated answer. If not, someone else please let me know. I still havent been able to figure it out. But I was taught as a kid to have thicker skin. So I am wondering if this is an overblow issue like everything else the media is putting out there.

Was it the I dont look like the other presidents comment? If so, uh yeah he doesnt, but why would that be playing the race card? Hillary repeatedly played the "gender card" by saying she was running for all of the mothers, daughters, grandmother etc. all of the time, but I didnt see people getting all tore up over that. What is the difference?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

To realy see how out of tune Senator Mccain is, please go to
www.jedreport.com/2008/08/what-happened.html
Watch it with open mind.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Did someone actually post that Bill Clinton is not a womanizer! Haha! That's really funny!

Posted by: Jess | August 4, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Chuck wrote: Oh, and the statement "I am not a racist," is classic Presidential denial, along the lines of Nixon's "I am not a crook," and Clinton's own, "I did not have sex with that woman."

YOU ARE ONE STUPID IDIOT. HE NEVER HAD BIBLICAL BABY-MAKING SEX WITH LEWINSKY. YOU ARE A PUPPET OF OBAMA WHO MAKES ME SICK. HOW ABOUT OBAMA LINE ABOUT TONY REZKO "WE SIMPLY WORKED WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL."

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

This is the legacy of the primaries that Obama just cannot escape. In general it's a reasonable expectation that primary candidates and their supporters will forget personal interests in favour of party unity once the winner has been decided. However, there comes a point when individuals are expected to sacrifice their own good name at which this ideal fails. No racially sensitive, high profile figure with any sense of pride would ever think that being labelled a racist was a reasonable price to pay for helping their party win an election. Obama's campaign and supporters crossed the line in allowing people like Clinton and Ferraro to be labelled racists and expecting that they would be fine with letting that label stick in order to get Obama into office. Bill Clinton is a proud man and given the choice between clearing his name and helping Obama, he will clear his name. Anyone who would not act in kind has no sense of self worth.

Posted by: jeremyemilio | August 4, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

JFP, YOU ARE WRITE LIKE ONE STUPID IDIOT. CLINTON WAS NO WOMANIZER AND WAS BASICALLY A VICTIM OF REPUBLICAN DIRTY TRICKS. I WILL NEVER TRUST THAT "RACE-CARD" PLAYING BARACK OBAMA FOR ONE DAY

Posted by: Kevin | August 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Me thinks thou dost protest too much, Mr. Clinton.

Posted by: David | August 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

What Bill Clinton said in So. Carolina about blacks voting for blacks because of race wasn't racist. It was stupid.

What Hilary said about RFK's assassination wasn't racist. It was stupid.

Comparing Barak Obama to Hollywood tartlets and Moses (really?) isn't racist. It's stupid.

What the Clintons and McCain show us is that people say stupid things when they are emotional and desparate.

Creating the impression that it is ridiculous for a black man to presume to become president is racist. Saying you won't vote for black man because he is black is racist [Just like saying you wouldn't vote for a woman to president under any circumstances is sexist].

Can we stop the name calling and deal with the real issues? No more stupid people in the White House!

Posted by: Lily | August 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Sequoia wrote:
I don't believe the Clintons are racist.

But there is NO DOUBT they used others' racism as a weapon in the primary. Anybody who argues otherwise is delusional.

And of course, the vast majority of people who bring up race constantly are racist anti-Obama morons.
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Well said!

Posted by: Chester | August 4, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

DCDave, for things to change, there has to be a change in the administration. The McCain platform is the Bush Administration-Redux. If things are to change, staying home is the one way to make sure that doesn't happen. There are no perfect people or campaigns. But let's be honest, if you would rather be lead by another half-wit who is beholden to the oil companies and big business, by all means, call yourself a Democrat and vote Republican. You stay home, since what you want is 4 more years of GWB! In November, I am voting for a better future!

As for Bill's pedigree. Take a closer look. No one was holding a gun to his head when he made those comments. And if he was so pristine, he could stand the heat. I remember when the Republicans use to tear their hair out about Clinton fans. They can be blind to his flaws for no sane reason. Now, I understand them. Thanks DCDave.

Posted by: Chester | August 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

RACIST CAMPAIGNING IS PUTTING THE FACE OF A BLACK MAN ON U.S. CURRENCY..IT IS TWO WHITE BIMBOS WITH A BLACK MAN IN A COMMERCIAL WITH SEXUAL UNDERTONES..IT IS COMPARING YOUR BLACK OPPONENT TO THE ANTI-CHRIST...IT IS ACCUSING YOUR OPPONENT OF BEING PRESUMPTUOUS (CODE FOR BEING AN UPPITY NEGRO THAT DOESNT KNOW HIS PLACE) IT IS SHOWING DISDAIN AND DISRESPECT FOR THE OPPONENT (SINCE HE DOESNT KNOW THAT A BLACK MAN SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING AGAINST AN OLD, HALF-DEAD, STUCK-ON-STUPID WHITE MAN LIKE MCCAIN) STEVIE WONDER CAN SEE THAT MCCAIN-SCHMIDT-ROVE HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE RACE CARD SINCE THE BEGINNING WILL MAKE THIS CAMPAIGN A REFERENDUM ON RACE IN AMERICA. NOW WE SHALL ALL FINALLY SEE JUST HOW RACIST AMERICA IS

Posted by: Bill | August 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse


I don't believe the Clintons are racist.

But there is NO DOUBT they used others' racism as a weapon in the primary. Anybody who argues otherwise is delusional.

And of course, the vast majority of people who bring up race constantly are racist anti-Obama morons.

Posted by: sequoia | August 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

What Slick Willy actually said was:

"I am not a rapist."

That, of course, is a lie too. Typical Clinton bs.

Posted by: jeffp | August 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Chester, no I am not kidding, it was character assasination pure and simple, taking someones words out of context for political gain. Someone who had a sterling Civil Rights pedigree. To go after Bill like that was as bad as any dirty trick the Repubs have used.

If you want to condone this sort of behavior go ahead and vote for Obama, but in terms of morality he has no ethics whatsoever. If you want to make a stand against the politics of the past, well stay home, and just don't vote. Democrats, don't vote Democratic in 2008

Posted by: DCDave | August 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

John you are right on, but what do you expect from a bunch of Starbucks robots that don't know anything about the civil rights movement or care about anything beyond sound bites anyways.

They blame their elders for 'ruining america', well guess what, they are going to have to work for their Ipods the way the economy is going, Maybe some of them will have to 'gasp' get blue collar jobs.

Trust me they aren't ready for that, they would rather go on welfare and sit at starbucks and complain. No you tell me who is ruining America?

Posted by: DCDave | August 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

DCDave, are you serious? Character assassination? Have you really looked at John McCain's behavior? Have you looked at what the RNC has been doing? Did you not see what they did to John Kerry? Harold Ford? Valerie Plame? What we don't need is a party that stomps on individuals or individual rights for their own benefit. Vote Democrat!

Posted by: Chester | August 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

So nice to be rid of the amoral Clinton machine, and that sexual predator Bill himself. Sad to hear that he's still giving interviews.

The dynastic families of American politics offer the republic the same things the dynastic families of Rome offered Rome: Intellectual and moral corruption, cronies in political appointments and of course those "not-for-profit" foundations that are so good at keeping one in the news and in touch with the big givers.

I wouldn't trust Bill Clinton for the time of day.

Posted by: JFP | August 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The way the Obama camp went after Bill Clinton is absolutely despicable, and it the dirtiest thing I have seen in politics ever bar none.

Going after Obama on the issues and having him run and hide behind this racist mumbo jumbo is dirty dirty dirty. So much so maybe I will vote for a republican Presidential candidate for the first time in my adult life. Maybe we can't have a president that condones this kind of character assasination, because honestly It ranks right up there with all of the dirty tricks the repubs have used over all of those years.

Posted by: DCDave | August 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: MountainSage

How the Obama campaign managed to paint the "first black president" as a racist is a credit to his propaganda machine as disgusting as it may be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.


Not only that, white individuals are now fair game for the same treatment.

What is astonishing is that the boomer whites that are now the targets are the very same whites who were part of the civil rights efforts of the 60s and 70s.

The ties that were forged across race that those whites thought they were building are now being broken and discredited by the under age 35 AA crowd. I blame Obama and his crowd for this. It started to emerge in the summer of 2007.

It was a terrible thing to do by the black community but nothing will stop it now that it is rolling.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | August 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Mccain ahead in Rasmussen poll today.
Pumas and opumas funding new documentary. Check out the teaser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8t4PKGc2Fw&eurl=http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/08/02/the-audacity-of-democracy/

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

How the Obama campaign managed to paint the "first black president" as a racist is a credit to his propaganda machine as disgusting as it may be.

Posted by: MountainSage | August 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"Dwayne Smith" wrote:

"Face it, many, if not most African Americans support Obama JUST BECAUSE he's black. Period. And, the majority of them won't admit it. Not can they even tell you what the hell Mr. Obama has done or proposes to do. So, that's just as racist as not voting for him because of his race. For the record, I'm a African American registered as Democrat and will NOT vote for Obama because he presents himself to be a different politician but his actions show that he's just like any other one. He is a complete fraud, and the American electorate will regret voting him into office."

Mr. Smith, about 80 to 85 percent of African American voters supported Kerry, and Gore, and Clinton. Were those men black as well? Obama would be getting an overwhelming amount of the black vote, just judging by past voting patterns, if he was white. The Democratic nominee always does. What has happened here is that he's getting an additional boost (going from, say, 80 to 85 percent to instead, perhaps 90 to 95 percent). Plus he's getting a huge increase in enthusiasm from these voters. Why was that sort of boost okay for Catholic voters supporting Kennedy, and Jewish voters thrilled to see Joe Lieberman on the Gore-Lieberman ticket, but not okay this time?

By the way, I'm a (white) Obama volunteer in northern Virginia and the voters and volunteers I talk to every day in real life seem equally well-informed about Obama and McCain's political positions, whether said voters and volunteers are black or white. I don't witness the ignorance that you describe and I am wondering if you simply assume it.

I also, of course, think Obama is far from a fraud. He has always presented himself as someone who wants to find common ground solutions even if that means both sides must give to find it and move the country forward. That means he is not going to tie himself to rigid ideological principles and refuse to budge (even for the sake of compromise or progress), a la McCain. It is a legitimate governing strategy and one I think will be far more successful than the polarizing approach of the recent past. But it does not mean he is a fraud.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I do not believe Bill Clinton, inherantly, is a racist; however, true to the Clinton credo to "do anything to win," he attempted to marginalize Obama's victories in heavily black-populated states and equated his campaign with those of Jessie Jackson and other black politicians. In short, his own words opened him up to attack as a "racist!"

Now, the likable "Bubba Boy" from Arkansas wants us to accept his thinly disguised denials that he is not a "racist." I shall accept his denial as not being a "racist," but to me he is just another cheap politician, who places winning above all else.

But what was really at stake with Obama's meteoric political rise was that the Clintons, Shrillary included, is that they could not stand the reality that a new-generation Demo leader, Obama of course, was on his way as the presumptive Demo leader and putting the Clintons out to pasture. Let us hope they are big enough people to put their loss behind them and throw their politcal skills behind Obama in his race for Prez in November.

Posted by: Forrest Gerard | August 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

"I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMEN". Sound familiar? Thou doust protest to loudly.

Posted by: GMnLoudoun | August 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

It occurs to me that I was wrong all along. The election and presidency isn't about issues at all. It's about the last man standing in a street fight. Now I get it!

Posted by: Chester | August 4, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

This guy just needs to stop talking to the press until he has had time to process a huge, and apparently unexpected, political defeat and all the emotions (grief, anger, etc.) that go with that.

Or to put it somewhat less sympathetically, this election is about John McCain and Barack Obama, of course to some extent about Hillary Clinton, and above all, about the future of our country. It is most certainly not all about him (Bill Clinton).

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Face it, many, if not most African Americans support Obama JUST BECAUSE he's black. Period. And, the majority of them won't admit it. Not can they even tell you what the hell Mr. Obama has done or proposes to do. So, that's just as racist as not voting for him because of his race. For the record, I'm a African American registered as Democrat and will NOT vote for Obama because he presents himself to be a different politician but his actions show that he's just like any other one. He is a complete fraud, and the American electorate will regret voting him into office.

Posted by: Dwayne Smith | August 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I was a rabid Bill Clinton supporter. I say *was*. His presidency was checkered but he seemed to be creating a legacy for himself that used the office of POTUS as a stepping stone for doing good in the world. That was inspiring. After his heart surgery, he changed. An article in Vanity Fair put into words what many of his "fans" had observed. He became angry and exhibited strange behavior. He seemed to have flipped out during Hillary's primary campaign. At the time, I would have bet that he was trying to make her lose on purpose. He tarnished his image, he may have gutted his legacy. But, he's allowed. He is human. He's entitled to have many sides to his personality. He has every right to become a manic depressive. It's just sad because at the end of the day, all of the bad things that "happened" to him - - - he did them to himself.

Posted by: Vegas | August 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

No, race has never been an issue, That is why Obama has had a special secret service detail almost since he began his campaign. He has had death threats. His campaign offices have had numerous bomb threats. White workers have quit because of being threatened, they were afraid and were being called NI&&ER LOVERS; as they tried to work, His phone workers get "I will never vote for a ni&&er" and a hang up. People with cars that have Obama stickers on them have been vandalized and many obama people (Including me) won't even put a sticker on their cars. No race has never been a part of this election. And you know the best part? Almost none of this has been made public at the request of Obama. No nothing about this is about race. WAKE UP.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

If you have to defend yourself by saying you are not a racist, then you probably are a racist, or at the very least your comments had racial overtones. Bad position to be in.


Posted by: AB68 | August 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Race and gender were items in the presidential race from "day one". But it is is how Clinton and now McCain have chosen to use those items. They chose to use race and gender as tools to divide people in this country. Obama can never get away from the fact that he is BLACK so he plays the race card every second of every day. So let's get off of it people. Let's focus on the issue...who can move this country forward and restore the great things our country was once known for prior to the Bush administration.

Posted by: Sheila | August 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I've never thought of Bill Clinton as a racist, but he did use what I consider to be racist comments during the primary season in an attempt to minimize Barack Obama's victories.

The distraction represented by this interview on ABC is a case in point of why Hillary Clinton did not get the nomination. Her husband is not an asset. When he's out talking he's the center of attention.

Of course John McCain is taking everything to the next level. Mockingly putting Barack Obama on a $100 dollar bill. Mocking Barack Obama's religion. Mocking Barack Obama's supporters.

Posted by: fletc3her | August 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Lets stop wallowing in deceit. Some of us are still racist and their is nothing we can do about it. Its skin-deep.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

To clear up the definition of the word "johning" which was used in an earlier post. The word "johning" is a verb that describes the act of paying for sexual services or the act of bing a complete B**** to you spouse and/or child. The word that should have been used is "joning" which mean making fun of; making fun of a person to the point where they laugh uncontrollably; saying ridiculous stuff off the top of one's head.

Posted by: Sheila | August 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

To clear up the definition of the word "johning" which was used in an earlier post. The word "johning" is a verb that describes the act of paying for sexual servies or the act of bing a complete B**** to you spouse and/or child. The word that should have been used is "joning" which mean making fun of; making fun of a person to the point where they laugh uncontrollably; saying ridiculous stuff off the top of one's head.

Posted by: Sheila | August 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

It is interesting that so many people accuse Obama of playing the race card. It has been my experience that 'playing the race card' is an accusation that is meant to shut black people up. If I take umbrage if someone asks if I was raised by a white family because of my diction, I'm "playing the race card". If someone accuses me of being an affirmative action hire (because I'm a biologist and they don't expect black women to be biologists) then I'm "playing the race card".

The fact of the matter is, Obama has *NOT* been playing the race card it is simply that whenever someone black speaks up about a racial slight we are playing the race card. It would appear that we are supposed to just 'take it' no matter what is said, in what context it is said, or any other factors one might care to think of.

And Debra, if this ONE incident means you will never vote for a black man BECAUSE he's a black man, there's an adjective that describes you. That adjective is 'racist'. You make your statement based upon your perceptions of the actions of ONE black man and thus apply that standard to ALL black men (these were your words, recall) and that is the very heart and core of racism. You weren't going to vote for Obama because he's black, full-stop. It wouldn't have mattered if Clinton had called him the N-word to his face on national TV and followed up by calling his children pickaninnies, you would STILL accuse Obama of playing the race card and would have taken THAT as your reason to not vote for him or any black man.

Cheers
A

Posted by: Adrienne | August 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Of course not, Bill. I absolutely understood your passion to gain back that White House. I'd have been pleased either way it turned out.

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

TX Dem...The truth is the truth. Bill Clinton is a self-serving womanizing draft-dodging liar. Yes, Bill Clinton will be remembered as the most successful Democratic president in 40 years. But why? The Clinton presidency was successful mostly from timing. Bill Clinton ran for president (in 1992) in a year where Ross Perot was the spoiler for GHW Bush. Secondly, the great economic expansion of the 1990s was not due to any effort by the Clinton Administration.

The information technology boom of the 1990s is what propelled the U.S. economy for much of the decade. The Clinton Administration successfully managed that "boom" by lowering capital gain rates and balancing the budget, but that was the just of it.

As a previous uninformed admirer of Bill Clinton, after the Lewinski scandal I paid more attention to Bill Clinton's past and present actions to draw my conclusions.

And my conclusion is that Bill Clinton is a self-serving womanizing draft-dodging liar.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | August 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who says McCain caught Obama red-handed playing the race card needs to watch the YouTube video that was posted at 12:22.

In case you can't string it together, let me lay it out for you. McCain accused Obama of playing the race card because he said this "they'll say that I don't look like those presidents on the dollar bills". Well, if you look at that YouTube video, you'll see that the McCain campaign made an ad (prior to this entire dustup) that mockingly shows Obama's face on a $100 bill.

Ahem.

Posted by: ASinMoCo | August 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

As far as I can tell, no one in my circle thinks either Clinton is a racist per se, but they are rascals. They lost the respect of steadfast communities by proving themselves to be unprincipled opportunists willing to compromise their professed values to win an election. That respect has been further depleted by Bill Clinton's post-defeat pout and his pathetic inability to admit that the missteps of the campaign were of his and Hillary's doing. Instead of trying to win a political advantage by fraudulently urging that Hillary's opponents were playing the race card, the Clintons would have done well to clarify their statements and apologize for any misunderstanding. Instead they went with an ol' time favorite...deny, deny, deny. Its time for them to fade from political life.

Posted by: CharacterCounts | August 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I vote Hillary first but now I vote Obama becuse he will make Gringos learn my language. When Obama President, gringos must speak Spanish to get there jobs. Si, cue puedo.

Posted by: Hector | August 4, 2008 9:08 AM

You might want to look at Mccain then, he had a insightful sit down with Latin Hip Hop star Daddy Yankee to discuss immigration. Possible cabinet seat was floated around, so Hector dont look towards Obama just yet, Mccain is down with the brown, just not the black.

Posted by: Ole' | August 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

What nonsense some of you write. It's why I left these comment pages in the first place. Just nonsense!

Posted by: Ollie2 | August 4, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Democrats who are voting for "the other guy" or against the party nominee for reasons like, "Hillary is entitled to be President" or "Race wasn't part of this campaign until Obama made it that way" are NOT DEMOCRATS. You don't believe in what the Party stands, for so call yourselves independents, Reganites, Clintonistas, but don't act like you are abandoning the party. Now, if you are interested in another few years of foreclosures, quagmire, war and record profits for oil companies, I don't know what you should call yourself, except a McCain supporter who would have voted for a woman no matter what her party affiliation.

And by the way, entitlement is not what government is about. If a man said he was entitled to be president, would you nod your head? The guy who wins is the one who is entitled. That's how elections work. If you want to see how governments work when the person who is "entitled" runs the country, look at the dictatorships. You are not Democrats!

Posted by: Kendall | August 4, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

You know; I think Clinton may be right about not being racist, in the way most people think of the term. I do think he wanted to be back in the White House so passionately that he desire overtook his common sense.

He made the statement in South Carolina. "Jesse Jackson won the SC primary," meaning any black candidate could do so. The statement was ill-chosen. At the time, I wondered whether he actually wanted his wife to win!

His actions during primary season cast him in a light that will be hard for "me" to forget. His image is forever tarnished, in my book.

Posted by: Ollie | August 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

This election is about race. Let's be man enough to call a spade by no other name.

Despite the unprecedented lull in all
economic indices, Obama is marginally leading Mccain in all polls.

If the truth be told, 30% of Americans are still closeted racists and another 30% are low information voters.
If Obama were to be white, he would have been leading Mccain by double digits in the polls.
And we seem to forget that Barack Obama has 50% white genes in him. Mccain's Campaign has been pathetically race baiting. And negative ads that have been coming out from his Campaign has shown him as a man that lacked intellectual depth. No wonder he was 6th from the bottom in his class in Annapolis. He his a joke and someone that I can unequivocally call a "Tom and Jerry Politician" whose only rise to fame is by crashing jets and being a POW for five years. Lets ask ourselves, before his POW experience, what were his antecedents?
If you want to know, Mccain's campaign actually and cynically race baited Barack Obama in June when it showed an Ad with Obama's bust on the Currency.
What message do you think Mccain was trying communicate to the closeted racists among you. "Do not blemish White House with a black face because he may perform and leave his footprints in the sand of time which may earn him - a black face, on the Currency".
Senator Mccain should be a role model, Condescending to the level where he uses Britney, Paris and the Ten Commandment to joke about serious issues? That is the lowest of low and his grand-children, not his Children, should let him know that he crossed the line.

As for my dear President Clinton, he has never been a racist. It was during his presidency that Africa got the most attention from the United States Goovernment. I am happy to see that he is still doing his good work in Africa.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 4, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

The only racist in the campaign season has been Obama and Axelrod.

Anytime Obama is in dire straights or needs a bump (pun intended) in the polls, out come the underhanded race comments. They did it the primaries and the Clintons held back, but the McCain has caught them redhanded and called them out.

Just watch if the polls get tighter or if Obama doesnt do well in the first debate, race commentary will start to seep through the Obama campaign in an effort to paint everyone as racist.

Posted by: 761-091 | August 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Debra, the true irony about your post is that is makes you sound racist. Racism is a problem in this country. It's not the overt racism of the early 20th century; it is the sublimated; covert; behind-closed-doors; when-only-my-friends-are-around; oops-I-didn't-mean-to-say-that-(out loud); I'm-not-comfortable; she-doesn't-look-the-part racism that has its hands around the throat of Americans. Maybe he's not racist. I don't think he is. Maybe he's a good-ol-boy and those tendencies slipped out. Maybe the man was angry that something bad happened to his wife and he responded to with a "those-people" kind of remark that he didn't mean. Maybe if he was honest about what he said and why he said it, people would move on. Debra, race is an issue, gender is an issue. Saying that it isn't doesn't make that true. Saying that you're abandoning your rights to war-monger to prove a point, makes you short sighted. Good luck!

Posted by: Presley | August 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and the statement "I am not a racist," is classic Presidential denial, along the lines of Nixon's "I am not a crook," and Clinton's own, "I did not have sex with that woman."

Posted by: Chuck | August 4, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

The idea that Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton are racists is simply rediculous.

Barack Obama ran a great campaign and his staff managed to take what the Clinton's said and turn them into racists. Hard to do but well done from the political standpoint. They tried to do the same to Geraldine Ferraro.

Barack Obama needed to win North and South Carolina to be the nominee. Had Hillary Clinton managed to retain 25% of the African American vote Obama would not be the nominee today. I understand African Americans voting for Obama. It is natural. But that doesn't change the fact that the Obama campaign did everything they could to ensure that would happen.

Now Obama tried to do the same to John McCain. However the McCain campaign saw what happened to the Clintons and he spoke up and Obama had to clarify his remarks that he wasn't accusing McCain of being racist or making racist remarks.

This is politics and I understand it. But sometime in the future we will look at this campaign and realize it was the Obama campaign that brought race into the primaries not the Clintons. They had to do this to win and they did it well. Whether it will hurt Obama now in the general we will see on November 4th.

There is no question that this country is still very racist. It is something we need to fight as we do sexism and homophobia. But we can't do it by having an African American candidate who says if you criticize me you are racist. That doesn't move us forward.

I understand the politics involved in innoculating oneself from charges of racism and the Washington Post editorial on Sunday was a good one on both camps.

But agian, trying to paint the Clintons as racists was a dirty campaign trick that worked and let's see it for what it was. Obama and his campaign a good politicians. But they are politicians and not saints and as we see now how quickly Obama is moving to the middle not really for "Change" but for winning.

Actually I like that. I want the Democrats to win.

Posted by: peter DC | August 4, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I somehow doubt you were ever an Obama supporter, By he way you are voting for the "other guy"" Can't you remember his name. Are upi voting for Nader or Barr?
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Racism goes both ways but blacks can't see past their own noses. They have the incorrect view that it is impossible for a black to be racist. They don't hear the kind of words that come out of their own mouths towards whites. They were wrong in painting Bill Clinton as a racist and white Clinton supporters were shocked and angry with blacks for doing so. It was wrong for them to paint him like that. They can go to hell in this election. I would have supported Obama had they been not using race as an excuse and wrongly calling everyone racist. I resent it and they have lost my vote. I will vote for the other guy. No one calls me a racist and still gets my support. I will never vote for Obama or any black man in the future. I am mad at blacks in general for perpetrating this lie.

Posted by: Debra | August 4, 2008 9:46 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton giveth, Bill Clinton taketh away. Hillary Clinton obviously would not have been in a position to become President in the first place, without Bill. Nevertheless, his loose lips and lack of discipline probably did her more harm than any other single factor in the primary. He is also the reason why Barack Obama simply cannot select Hillary as his Vice President. Bill Clinton is completely out of control.

Posted by: Chuck | August 4, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The MSM loves 'em some racists. Give them a reason for existance.

Posted by: PhilTR | August 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

The CLINTONS did indeed CALCULATE and DID allow race/gender to be injected ..and even now, wonder how many of the Clinton folk are advising the McC team(the McC team has acknowledged they did indeed give due attention to the Clinton campaign and seek to refine it and use its very approach..BOTH C and McC teams CLAIM BEING VICTIMIZED and use such in attempt to get an advantage and some are indeed allowing it, promoting it and accepting it as fact of life in these times no matter how nationally devisive and holds the potential for tragedy of truly alienating and causing further rift between the segments of our grand society which has let the race and sexist and actual equality issues fester and smolder for selfish purposes and fear of what it would unleash if surfaced full frontal..such dfears are well founded and a true 'problematic" that will need to be addressed if we ever are ineed actually to make real progress or live up to the guiding principles that we claim we stand for and about .

Posted by: Boz54 | August 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I think that it is interesting that Clinton just blurts out he is not a racist without even being asked by the reporter if he is one. This is vintage Clinton. Make the reporter the bad guy and paint yourself as the victim. No one can successfully accuse Clinton of being a racist. No one of any stature has done so. All he was accused of was playing the race card in an effort to help his wife win the nomination. That he cannot deny. Then again, of course he can. He has a long track record of denying things that are true.

Posted by: Roger/Denver | August 4, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I beleive it was the media who first injected race. When Obama won in South Carolina, most commentators were reporting the percentage of blacks voting for him, even though in State where blacks were a small percentage, he was also winning. In reporting this way, they unleashed the deep-seated "us versus them" mentality.

Posted by: Pat | August 4, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Racism goes both ways but blacks can't see past their own noses. They have the incorrect view that it is impossible for a black to be racist. They don't hear the kind of words that come out of their own mouths towards whites. They were wrong in painting Bill Clinton as a racist and white Clinton supporters were shocked and angry with blacks for doing so. It was wrong for them to paint him like that. They can go to hell in this election. I would have supported Obama had they been not using race as an excuse and wrongly calling everyone racist. I resent it and they have lost my vote. I will vote for the other guy. No one calls me a racist and still gets my support. I will never vote for Obama or any black man in the future. I am mad at blacks in general for perpetrating this lie.

Posted by: Debra | August 4, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Not Your sweetie - you actually spent valuable time producing that web site? Wonders never cease nor does ignorance.

Posted by: Pat | August 4, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

The idea that Bill Clinton is racist is completely ridiculous.

Obama has played the race card from day one. He has nothing else. That is why he will lose this election.

Posted by: taoofterri | August 4, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Among Clinton civil rights accomplishments-

The first persons of color in the cabinet

The biggest increase in median income among AAs of any presidential years, both crudely and relative to other ethnic groups

Improvements in housing, decreases in discrimination, massive decreases in crime

Preservation of affirmitive action against a right wing congress and supreme court

Need I go on?

As governor of AR he focused on education in poor communities, he was involved as an activist for civil rights in AR.

Vs.

Before law school- he was a community organizer for 2 1/2 years to pad his resume and get into law school.

Returning to Chicago, he was elected (with some serious politics) to represent an liberal/AA district, which he did just adequately.

Make no mistake- I am supporting Obama now- but for those of you willing to throw our only successful Dem president in the last 40 years under the bus- I would read more.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Gerard Madison, NYC | August 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is a consummate politician. For him to say he is not a racist -- is all about what is means. Clinton knows how to use language to his advantage and that is what he did in his wife's campaign.

And now, the consummate follower and reactor person, McCain is trying to harm Obama with his ideas of race. The racist remarks fit into McCain's playbook of a nasty campaign. His comments that he is proud of his "celebrity" campaign and that it was funny is stupid and illogical but panders to those who cannot free themselves of the current administration.

The challenge for Americans is to face reality and understand the eonomic and political disasters that have been fostered on this country by the current and continued administration of a Bush-McCain presidency. Mr. Obama represents the opportunity to remake our future.

Posted by: kate9 | August 4, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Bill, Monica says Hi.

Hillary who?

Obama '08!

Posted by: Jimbo | August 4, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"a self-serving womanizing draft-dodging liar like Bill Clinton"..????Obama-Junkie, is that what you really think of Bill? This is clearly why Obama will not win in November. His supporters are too hateful and it starts with the man himself. And Obama-Junkie, let me remind you that Bill is the most successful democratic politician in 40 years and nothing will change by 2009

Posted by: TX Dem | August 4, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

The fact that Mccain has now surrounded himself with all Karl Rove's people,who gave us Bush,speaks volumes as to why Mccain has gone against his word on having a clean and civil campaign,to this dirt, wears $520 a pair shoes what most working people pay for the home they are struggling to keep out of foreclosuree

Posted by: Brent | August 4, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

There is no question that Clinton crossed the line a couple of times in the primaries and that McCain is subtly injecting subliminally racist images in his ads. That phony indignation by the McCain campaign last week was just that, phony. The Hilton Spears ad was without question using racial and sexual imagery to scare white men who are still living in the 1950s. There is no disputing it.

Posted by: Gerard Madison, NYC | August 4, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I sense anger from the Bo camp simply because people want to voice their opinions which do not support Bo. Grow up Bo sheep, its a free world and anyone can say anything they want. ohhh wait, my mistake, anyone can say anything they want that praises Bo or his flock cry wolf.

I am PUMA hear me roar...
Hillary's taking it to the convention floor!
Go Hillary!!!!!!

Posted by: TrishFromCanada | August 4, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I vote Hillary first but now I vote Obama becuse he will make Gringos learn my language. When Obama President, gringos must speak Spanish to get there jobs. Si, cue puedo.

Posted by: Hector | August 4, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Come on folks!! Who are you all trying to fool? The US of A is a racially divided country and one does not have to live there to see that. All previously oppressed people have a right to be bitter about the past. Do they have a right to go out and rob kill and try to regain their self worth of course not. Any one who uses their brains for thinking would appreciate that ones history and past shapes ones present and ideas. Get real and work out the kinks in your armor!! And I can absolutely say from watching and reading thousands of miles away there are many kinks in the "mighty armor" Have a reason not to vote for either man. Too black or too old is just plain ignorant.

Posted by: non american black person | August 4, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton a racist? Absurd

An unreformed and shameless misogynist certainly, but a racist? Never.

Posted by: Packard | August 4, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

This is what is wrong with Hillary supporters: No one is entitled to be president you moron. You must earn it through the process. Hillary lost, let it go. She will not be the nominee so go get your ice cream, sit on the couch and watch a tear jerker and let it go.

I just get so bitter and angry when I see the media still trying to smear the only real candidate who is entitled to the presidency - Hillary.
Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | August 4, 2008 6:27 AM

Posted by: duh | August 4, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

'I am not a racist'.

'I did not have sexual relations with that woman'.


Gems, to be sure.

Posted by: Susan | August 4, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

One of the major reasons i am voting against barack obama is that his campaign smeared the clinton's as racist. Disgusting.

Posted by: Anne | August 4, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Oh dear, reading the comments it would appear that we are maybe importing racists. Nadeem Zakaria is a pretty exotic name. It is against the constitution to be racially prejudiced so Nadeema had better be careful. They could lose citizenship or their work permit. Even if Nadeem were born in the USA doubt that the parents were. Suggest Department of Homeland Security be a little pickier.

Posted by: Tricia Wigg | August 4, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

I liken the race baiting coming out of Obama camp to a form of 'Johning'. 'Johning' is an exaggerated form of speaking in the black community and while seeming to "compliment" another it it really is a backdoor insult.


Obama people are using the format but applying it to politics.

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Wtf is "johning"?!?! Im black and have never heard of that. Maybe you meant "Joning" but that doesn't fit your definition of statements made under the guise of a compliment. Joning is just making fun of people. SO, please STHU if you dont know what you're talking about. It makes me sick when old whites think they know about black culture because they work with a black person or have a "black friend" That does not make you an expert on black culture.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

All these racists could not wait for a comment to be made about race so they could come out of their little rat holes. People, it is the 21st century and the US is supposed to be the leader of the world. Let's at least try to behave a little more civilzed. It is no wonder one of the headlines coming out of Britain in 2004 was: "How can 49 million People be so Stupid?" Every day we prove them right with these comments!

Posted by: Fay M | August 4, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

People can say what they will, but divisions of race in politics wins. Examples: Jessee Helms "White Hands" commercial in 1990. That one worked wonders to win the election for him. Now, for those of you who say "Helms was an old racist and things are different today." Balogny. Consider Bob Corker's (US Senator,Tenn) 2006 "Playboy" commercial with the white woman talking about meeting Hard Ford @ the Playboy mansion & telling him to call her. It worked out well for Corker in Tenn. in 2006. It's still around, and if McCain plays on race, it will be a big success for him in alot of states.

Posted by: reason | August 4, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

How anyone could even consider Mccain with his advanced AGE and,reoccurance of skin cancer,as well ashis low intellegence(graduated 894/899)and the sress that comes with this job.You look like Mccain coming out of the whitehouse,not going in.He takes off on weekends,(because he's a senior citizen)and according to the press core following along does one event a day.An event could be talk to his press core and answer questions.YOU DON'T GET WEEKENDS OFF WHEN YOUR PRESIDENT,NOR NAPS IN THE AFTERNOON EVERYDAY.

John Mccain's a Septuagenarin=between the age of 70 and 80,that is a fact.So if he is would win,you'd have aides running the whitehouse while he's resting,and he would be handled.

Posted by: catty | August 4, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

It seems that the comment showed a bit of Bill's prejudice but come on, everybody is a racist to some extent. We all assume things about people we don't know based on their appearance. Bill Clinton's comments are nothing compared to "makaka" or Trent Lott's blunder. I don't really think anyone should be judged by one sentence. You should look more at people's actions. Bill Clinton is a racist because he failed to keep his campaign promise to the Lakota tribe on Pine Ridge that he would pardon Leonard Peltier and use our tax dollars to build them new homes without harmful chemicals. Instead he pardoned some rich white guy, signed NAFTA, and gave our tax dollars to fat, lazy corporations on government welfare. And the gap between rich and poor (usually white and black) keeps on growing.

Posted by: Nate | August 4, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I was listening to NPR Friday afternoon and they played a clip of Barry Hussein responding to a man who just lost his job with Union Carbide. Do you know what he told him? He said he would put him to work building windmills!!! What planet is this man with the purple lips from anyway?

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | August 4, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

And Bill Clinton's mentor, Sen. Fulbright, wasn't a "racist" either; he just used race (out-segging) to win elections.

Any white person who says he doesn't see "race" in the snide, baiting crap Bill Clinton did in the primaries and McCain is doing now is lying. We've heard that demeaning of black people all our lives. You say nothing because you don't want to "never hear the end of it."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Clinton shouldn't even have dignified this garbage with a denial. Same old story from the community; they don't get their way, they play the race card. It's so tired. Can't win on merit, play the race card.

Then again, I'm sad to say that this is how my former party works these days. I left right after one of the CA senators accused everyone who wasn't in favor of uncontrolled illegal immigration of being a racist. With that narrow minded a view from the Dems, I'd rather be an Independent.

Posted by: mark | August 4, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Make that, actions speak louder than words, Bill.

Posted by: Helena Montana | August 4, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse


Tell Bill Clinton that he was baited by Obama on race.

It is being done to white people, mostly the over age 50 crowd, in their employment or attempts to get employment. it is happening in washington dc.

The people running the country ( I think tey are mainly the economic interests) are doing everything to get rid of the type of moralit and fairness that the over 50 crowd practices.

The only way to roll is to get rid of any worker who has moral and ethical standards.

McCain's camp is right in calling Obama on this and now that we know we can prepare for this new form of race baiting.

I liken the race baiting coming out of Obama camp to a form of 'Johning'. 'Johning' is an exaggerated form of speaking in the black community and while seeming to "compliment" another it it really is a backdoor insult.


Obama people are using the format but applying it to politics.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | August 4, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

The real racists are Barack and his people. They pulled the race card against the Clintons so much it made me sick. Bill Clinton has every right to be pissed. Mccain saw what Obama was up to with the Clintons and called them on it. He was right. As an african american I take issue with other african americans who play the race card without merit. Its like the boy who cried wolf. When it will truly matter noone will hear it. Obama isnt qualified so I voting Green. At least Cynthia Mckinney has been around longer than the chosen one.

Posted by: Sonia | August 4, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Actinos speak louder than words, Bill.

Posted by: Helena Montana | August 4, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama swiftboated the Clintons on race. Kate Snow and Anne E. Kornblut know this, but keep the slanders alive to pander to Obamanation.

Posted by: John Gordon | August 4, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton is not a racist. He's an astute political opportunist who really believed what he said when he insinuated that a black man (like Jesse Jackson) could win the South Carolina primary but that white America wouldn't elect him at the national level. And that's what's wrong with what Bill Clinton said: he was saying that we should vote for his wife because she was more electable than a black man. The Clinton campaign continued to push that message, and I'm glad it didn't work.

And I hope it won't happen in November.

Posted by: NER | August 4, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

The idea of having to salute a black man is just to painful for alot of white people. You can point out all the things that make you "fearful" of Obama but I know why you are "afraid" of voting for Barack.It is hate for something new. Obama ran against McCain and Hillary to win the Democratic Nomination thanks to Rush Limbaugh. McCain mocks religion and questions Obama's patriotism and religious convictions and he skates. But Obama's surrogates question his military credentials and its hell to be paid. This election truly shows why we as a country will never become the leader we have been. Lack of sincere accountability for "all" candidates. Obama doesn't love America? Who does America love?

Posted by: Hampton Roads | August 4, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse


jojo and other posters here obviously do know know how to do some research-or are too lazy. He merely lift the words of Dean and Donna Brazile and say Hillary supporters are Republicans. You are intellectually lazy.


Proud PUMApac.org member.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Obama and his campaign surrogates Jesse Jackson Jr and his sleeper cell agent Donna Brazille were the first to insinuate racism by the Clintons when none existed. Donna B started it off with by saying Bill Clintons' "tone" was somehow racist when he said Obama's war record was a fairytale. Then Jesse Jackson Jr. followed up by saying that Hillary would cry about her appearance to win a primary but wouldn't cry for the victims of Katrina (ie visions of poor African Americans being deserted during the Huricane). Obama's team then lacthed on to any comment and tried to put a racist theme to it. It is insidious what Obama's team has done. Even worse, it's shameful.

Posted by: Wayne | August 4, 2008 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I have come to realize people are going to vote for the candidate that they feel comfortable with. After all the things McCain has done and said and Barack doesn't have their vote now? He will never get there vote. McCain represented a racist segment of Arizona and those are his constituents. People are looking for reasons to "not" vote for Obama rather than reasons to vote "for" McCain. The press doesn't press McCain on the issues and they allow McCain to move on to new issues. But Obama has to answer the same questions everyday. Bottom line, "America" will get what it wants. And that is a racist, bigot, sexualist candidate that reflects their views. You want it, have it.

Posted by: Jermaine | August 4, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Obama just can't help himself from referencing his race...

"Oh, and did I mention he's black?"

The charge of racist leveled at anyone who criticizes him seems his only campaign strategy, at this point.

The scorched earth campaign Obama ran against Sen. Clinton and his disrespecting of President Clinton won't work against the GOP.

They'll just laugh at him, oh wait, they already are.

Maybe the super delegates will wake up before the convention, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Dem in Denver | August 4, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Come on PUMA members, I know you're all plenty old enough to understand that a democracy means not always getting your own way.

Posted by: jojo | August 4, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

And who will be the demographic he is losing, that will be his undoing? As of today he is even leading like 2 to 1 in the working class vote they were worrying about a little. There is not a voter who is for obama that can be pried away no matter what. We want a different and better country. Your words don't even make sense.

By the way, I hope you don't think if he was to win John Mccain will be president? He is nothing but a stumble bum and a yes man. Cheney and his bunch will still be in charge pulling the strings from behind the scenes just like they do now. I hope you don't think George Bush is actually president?

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It is this "Race Card" that will be Obama's undoing.

When he allowed his camp to call Bill and Hillary racists, after all they have done for civil rights... that was the final straw for me. I personally will not vote for the man. After 32 years of voting Dem.

Now he is trying it with Mr. McCain. But... this time we are all on to his tricks. Yes... Mr. Obama is a two trick pony. Race card. Misogyny card. That's all he has. The rest of what we thought he stood for... all turned out to be lies.

Posted by: Stray Yellar Dawg | August 4, 2008 7:22 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Hi Not Your sweetie - I went to your site, don't worry. So you think that a speaker who acknowledges that there are places in this world where the blacks are poor and the whites rich comes down to calling you a racist? Or you feel insulted when a biracial candidate understands that it's hard for a middle class white woman who grew up in Kansas in the 1920s to entirely overcome her fear of people who look different?

Do you always take everything so personally?

Posted by: timbth | August 4, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Bill is NOT racist!!! Obamac,MO and his Obamabots are the racist people in this election!!!

Posted by: hillaryistheone | August 4, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

It is this "Race Card" that will be Obama's undoing.

When he allowed his camp to call Bill and Hillary racists, after all they have done for civil rights... that was the final straw for me. I personally will not vote for the man. After 32 years of voting Dem.

Now he is trying it with Mr. McCain. But... this time we are all on to his tricks. Yes... Mr. Obama is a two trick pony. Race card. Misogyny card. That's all he has. The rest of what we thought he stood for... all turned out to be lies.

Posted by: Stray Yellar Dawg | August 4, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Bill is not a racist! I challenge any of you to research the black superdelegates and tell me who put each of them in their politically appointed positions. Who moved them through the system to where they are today. I assure you it was Bill Clinton.

Who will remove them from their positions to fill those politically appointed positions with friends, business partners, crimelords, slum landlords, and worst of all Mo. It will be your Obama. Bo is indeed racist, when things so foul he pulls out the "i'm a poor black boy from the ghetto who didn't have a Pa, and all these white folk scared my Gramma."

Get over it everyone, and shout in the right direction before accusing Bill of racism!

I am PUMA, here me roar!

Posted by: TrishFromCanada | August 4, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Yup, and he didn't have sex with that woman and that woman and that woman! Didn't like under oath; there was no Whitewater, McDougalls and so much more.

B.S. Bill! Go home and as the site last winter said "shutupbill".com.

Posted by: Bushed | August 4, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Go to my link: I sourced it with videos of him calling me a racist. Michelle too.

Posted by: Not Your sweetie | August 4, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Obama never called anybody a racist - get your facts right

Posted by: timbth | August 4, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

When Obama called Bill Clinton a racist, he called me a racist. Of course, afterwards he called me directly a racist as well
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/i-am-a-racist/

Posted by: Not Your sweetie | August 4, 2008 7:04 AM | Report abuse

The obsessive HRC bunch, most of whom are Republican plants fanning the dying flames, must be recognized for what their trying to do. They want Obama to lose, clear and simple. Most of them want this because they're really Clinton haters and they're scoring a double whammy by trying to damage the Dems campaign and getting the blame for it laid on the shoulders of Hilary and her fans. These folk are Limbaugh's army of fake Hilary supporters.

The very few committed Hilaryites whose voices are mixing in with Limbaugh's trolls are not supporting her by damaging Obama's campaign. Hilary will have a lot more to say in shaping this country's future as an integral and valued part of a Dem presidency.


Posted by: jojo | August 4, 2008 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Michelle and Obama are not race baiters. Obama is a Black Man who happens to be running for President. Anyone who tries to attack him during this election season will come across as being a RACIST.

If you could take a step back and remove the color of his skin... for example let's say that he and Michelle were both white skinned, then RACISM would not play a role in this campaign. It would just be negative campaigning.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 6:52 AM | Report abuse

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Posted by: Heard It Before | August 4, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

SURE you're not a racist, Bill! We all saw your behavior on the campaign trail -- you and that filthy "wife" of yours -- and it wasn't pretty.

Go away.

Posted by: Jeff Wagner | August 4, 2008 6:50 AM | Report abuse

Shut up Bill! You were seating on your ass had done nothing on 800,000 people died in rawanda, which is not the case when it comes to kosovo. That speaks volume, and how sad is it for you to defend you are not racist by opening you office in Harlem.

Posted by: Ben | August 4, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

Clinton is not a racist,but Barack and Michelle Obama are BOTH racist and are both race baiters.

Posted by: CR | August 4, 2008 6:39 AM
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CR, you don't know what is in anybodies heart, except for your own heart, so how would you know what is in Barack and Michelle Obama's heart and anyone else's heart?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 6:43 AM | Report abuse

John | August 4, 2008 4:48 AM wrote:
"The Clintons are about the farthest people from racists you can get. To label them as such is scurrilous and for this reason alone Obama deserves to lose the election. He has consistently played the race card. Over and over. It's sickening."

Agree more than 100 per cent!

Posted by: Elisabeth | August 4, 2008 6:42 AM | Report abuse

Clinton is not a racist,but Barack and Michelle Obama are BOTH racist and are both race baiters.

Posted by: CR | August 4, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

The Clintons MAY or MAY NOT be RACIST. However, both HILLARY and BILL pulled quite a few KARL ROVE tactics to get the American People, especially, WHITES to be FEARFUL of OBAMA.

Both HE and HILLARY made several comments throughout the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARYRIES that made some people, especially BLACK FOLKS take a double look. They may not be RACIST underneath, but what was a complete turn off by most Blacks was the way that they both GANGED UP on BARACK,accusing of being a "FAIRY TALE", making comments, such as "I CAN GET ALL OF THE WHITE VOTES". And, other commments such as, "YOU KNOW ROBERT KENNEDY WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM."

With these types of comments SPEWING (whether from the ROVIAN playbook, or NOT) from the mouths of BOTH CLINTONS more than OFTEN made the majority of BLACKS open their eyes and question the sincerity and character of both Clintons.

Posted by: OBAMA2008 | August 4, 2008 6:37 AM | Report abuse

I don't think he's a racist...just someone who's capable of doing or saying anything to get what he wants. He did try to marginalize Obama by comparing him to Jesse Jackson. His wife did appeal to "hard working white people." Sorry...they don't get to take that back or try explain it away or deny that they did those things.

The man needs to stop sulking and get over it.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | August 4, 2008 6:30 AM | Report abuse

I just get so bitter and angry when I see the media still trying to smear the only real candidate who is entitled to the presidency - Hillary.

Hillary is waiting for Obama Barack to implode and then she will step forward at the convention and grab the nomination that is rightfully hers to begin with.

This is what Hillary meant when she said that "anything can happen ..." and we are watching Osama misspeak and make rookie mistakes and unless other members of the Democratic join in with Hillary's support from the far left - angry, bitter leftists like myself who read firedoglake and are secure in our gender identity - then we are destined to suffer another four years of Bush.

Hillary is The One. You GO, Girl!

Posted by: twin_peaks_nikki | August 4, 2008 6:27 AM | Report abuse

Who claims they are not a racist when no one has accused you of being such? The interviewer never asked him about being a racist, why did he feel the need to make this statement?

Posted by: Bryan | August 4, 2008 6:12 AM | Report abuse

Many Americans that lived thru the Clinton years know and love the Clintons and feel that they got a bad deal during the primaries. the ultra liberal media was so obvious in their zest to give every primary to Obama and they then trashed Hillary. we will not forget !! The Clintons did alot for the black community and they got spit on !!! Obama and his team are the racists and they keep on using the race card issue to pressure people to vote for their empty suit candidate, but ha ha ..its not working Bammy !!!!

Posted by: JIMBO | August 4, 2008 6:10 AM | Report abuse

can someone explain how the rushmore/liberty/$100 bill ad is racist or plays the race card?

Posted by: confused | August 4, 2008 6:09 AM | Report abuse

I do not believe that Bill Clinton is a racist, but I do believe that he was/has been the best republican president since Eishower...forget Regan or the Bushes and look at what he signed into law...NAFTA, CAFTA, the welfare reform act, telecommunications deregulation, etc.

Posted by: ron | August 4, 2008 5:26 AM | Report abuse

Gala1

Get back on your medication.

Posted by: h1000 | August 4, 2008 5:10 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who could think that the best and the brightest is a paint by numbers hologram like Barack Obama is just plain pathetic.
Not to mention in some seriously dire need of standards.
The thought of comparing him to Bill Clinton is just so incredibly naive.

I suppose it's a lot easier to have the wool pulled over your eyes when you are already sheep.
But how weird it must be to believe so fully in the sound of your own bleating.

And of course you will blame everyone but Obama the day after the elction when he will have lost.


-gala1

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

The Clintons are about the farthest people from racists you can get. To label them as such is scurrilous and for this reason alone Obama deserves to lose the election. He has consistently played the race card. Over and over. It's sickening.

Posted by: John | August 4, 2008 4:48 AM | Report abuse

Obama decided he was ready to be president after 143 days
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Posted by: WooHoo | August 4, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks that john McCain didn't play the race card last week, please explain to all of us why he had this you-tube add posted on JUNE 27, 2008 featuring Obama on a $100 bill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

The best and the brightest we have is Barack Obama...

Rethugs and Pumas please give it up

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 4:18 AM | Report abuse

This is how we treat our best and brightest.

I guess Bill Clinton has now had the learning experience of going down a stretch of that road to hell and seeing just how much of it is paved with good intentions.

But the other side of that street will be finding out how much Obama, who among all the other could haves, could have made this post-racial and not have lost.

By not doing so Obama has become iconic of division and a partisan agenda to a country that is thoroughly sick of division and a partisan agenda.
And it will be the other reason besides inexperince why the majority of voters will refuse to vote for him.

Bill Clinton can take some cold comfort in knowing that more than anyone else, Obama needs his input.
And I hope he knows better than to give him one word of it.

Obama's need to do the dozens with someone like Bill Clinton is going to cost him the election.

Anyone this short -sighted and ruinously petty ( sound familiar?) as a candidate could only be a disaster as a president.
Bill Clinton has done us all a big favor by putting it out there and letting us evaluate it.

We really need to heed this warning. We've already seen what the Bush-Obama sort of personality can do as a president.
Why on earth would we need to make that mistake again?

-gala1

Posted by: gala1 | August 4, 2008 4:09 AM | Report abuse

Hasn't McCain referred to the vietnamese as gooks?

Aren't they Asain?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, I didn't know anybody thought Bill was racist. Where's that coming from? I think everybody generally accepts that he's not always truthful and that not always warm and fuzzy anymore and that he worked really hard to help his wife campaign and may do so again and again and is probably disappointed and worn out and feeling grumpy. But racist? No, it appeared that Bill was just doing anything he could think of to diminish and demean Obama as per Sen. Clinton's campign style. The Rove playbook that now seems to be John McCain's best hope. It didn't seem to work in Sen. Clinton's favor. Let's hope the people don't buy into it from McCain either. Saw Jake Tapper say that Paris and Britney are "stupid," as his way to respond to McCain's ad. Let's recognize Tapper's colossal entitlement and arrogance as he judges people he does not know and in whose shoes he fortunately doesn't have to walk. Let's wonder if by his judgment he might get to walk in their shoes next time. That is how we learn compassion and to see ourselves in the mirror of others.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 4, 2008 3:53 AM | Report abuse

For those of you who seem to have an issue with Rev. Wright, lets not forget that the Clintons mentor was no other than avid Klansman Jame William Fulbright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXASyTD-d3g

I'm sure you will be just as outraged with the news....being fair minded people and all

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Bill, you are much worse. Why did you not find the people in government responsible for the selling of drugs in black neighborhoods in order to raise money for the Contras? Why was Yugoslavia saved and not Rwanda? Do you really believe that we believe that you never inhaled? Why were you hospitalized for sinus problems? Why was your closest friend and brother convicted of drug possession? Wasn't that situation with Obama's plane eerily similar to what happened to Ron Brown? Why are you hanging out with George Bush senior when you know as the head of the CIA all the nasty things he did? I'm sure you can justify everything or turn around these questions without answering them by attacking the gall of people to ask you such "insane" questions. You will ask to find one person living to accuse you of anything and you are right; there is not one person brave enough or living enough to make these charges.

Posted by: thrutheseasons | August 4, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse

that hurt, and 3 cliche's in one!

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld

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Careful: Part of the definition of a cliche ...

truism ... a statement whose truth is widely known and whose utterance, therefore, seems superfluous;

Posted by: Truth Seeker | August 4, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Can someone please give me a list of what the Clintons did for the AA community.

They walked on eggshells for you like everyone else in America does. Have you ever noticed that Hispanics and Asians never whine "You haven't done enough for me!" Yet some AA will whine that no matter how much or how often they are given to.

Posted by: jane doe | August 4, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Obama & his priest,
Preacher & big mouthed wife are the racists. Why does the Press try to embarrass Bill Clinton ? Obama & his followers are the black version of David Duke, the former KKK leader.

Posted by: SadAmerican | August 4, 2008 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Can someone please give me a list of what the Clintons did for the AA community? Thank you.

Posted by: Believe Again | August 4, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Can someone please give me a list of what the Clintons did for the AA community? Thank you.

Posted by: Believe Again | August 4, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

You folks are something else. As a Black man who works and takes care of a family and is involved in my church and my community and is a life-long Democrat who was raised by life-long labor-union, church-going, conservative Democrats, I am offended by the charges of racism that the media and the Black community continue to levy against the Clintons. The Black folks in South Carolina and many other Southern states know real racists (Strom Thurmond, Jessie Helms and the like) and were evidently voting for them and their agendas of hate for decades, given the large margins by which some of those people were returned to office each cycle. Do the Clintons compare to the likes of a Thurmond or Helms? Not at all!! And if Black America thinks the Clintons were racists during this last primary round, then there is no way we can deny that Obama has been race-baiting and using lazily-coded rhetoric against the McCain campaign and he is dead-wrong for it and we, Black Americans, should not stand for that kind of sloppy campaigning from the person who purports to look like us, but seems to only want to ride the coattails of a lot of Black leaders who have paved the way for his historic run. If he keeps, this up, he's going to blow it and a real Black American will not get another chance in our lifetime.

Posted by: tlc20011 | August 4, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

This election mirrors the gubernatorial election in Louisiana in 1991. At that time, Edwin Edwards ran against David Duke. Edwards ran as a Democrat. Duke ran as a Republican.

Duke is also a racist and a former member of the Ku Klux Klan. For decades, he attended a separatist church preaching White empowerment.

Duke was so disgusting that most Republicans actually supported Edwards. Both Republicans and Democrats united to defeat Duke.

The equivalent of Duke is Barack Hussein Obama. Obama is a racist and a Black-power advocate. For decades, he attended a separatist church preaching Black empowerment.

Many Democrats, like Joseph Lieberman, actually support McCain. Both Republicans and Democrats must unite to defeat the Black-empowerment racist -- Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: blue whale | August 4, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

You will go down in history as shallow and easily manipulated pawns.

Posted by: Sick of it | August 4, 2008 2:23 AM

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that hurt, and 3 cliche's in one!

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 4, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jakeD's shadow | August 4, 2008 2:29 AM | Report abuse

The Clintons are the last people on this earth that are racists. That is what was so disgusting about the primaries. Anyone who bought into the race card needs to get their heads checked. You are naive, do some research on what the Clintons have done for all minorities and civil rights, including gays, women, AAs, latinos and everyone else. It is absolutely shameful to accuse them of racism. Especially when the race card was played by a candidate you know NOTHING ABOUT. You will go down in history as shallow and easily manipulated pawns.

Posted by: Sick of it | August 4, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Clintons regret having pandered to racist voters?

Posted by: AstroGlide | August 4, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

If Bill Clinton is not a racist why is he still talking about it. I don't think people of color think Bill is a racist. They just want him to support Obama so since he's not a racist than why isn't he?

Posted by: Grace | August 4, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Maybe he's not a racist, but he was willing to use race to help his wife in this campaign and he was willing to sell out African-Americans on the Crime Bill and Welfare "Reform" Bill he signed as President.

Posted by: funnyguy | August 4, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

I agree Bill is not a racist, he is just Bill. He did what he had to do to keep Hillary Soprano from winning. He will do what he has to do to keep Obama from winning.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | August 4, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

I do not know, but doubt, if Clinton is a racist. Just because he denies he is however, does not necessarily reflect reality, especially given his long standing tendency, noted by numerous writers, to sometimes not tell the entire truth. He did say things during the campaign, which could be interpreted by many people, as racist or probably more plausibly using race as a tactic, whether or he is a covert racist.

Circumstances can often result in a person making racist or racially divisive comments, even if the person is personally not an overt racist. Clinton's bitterness at his wife's difficulties in many primaries and caucuses, as well as her utlimate defeats probably led him to make some comments he wished he had not uttered.

Posted by: Independent | August 4, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Thanks to the Democratic Party official's previously finger selected candidate, republicans will win this election. It's a shame, we had a real qualified and winning candidate in Hillary Clinton but they pushed her out. Wake up Delegates! you still have a chance pick her at the Convention!

Posted by: Amarissa | August 4, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Two things: remember Donna Brasille was the one who ran the campaign for Gore that snatched defeat out of the hands of victory- particularly by running away from the Clintons

Also check out this article from the New Republic (a liberal mag) about Obama and Race:http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304&k=5083

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Just because Donna Brasille says something like "fairytale is a racist word" (did you ever read that speech in NH?, it just questioned the media coverage Barak was getting- with no indication as to why he was not being questioned on his inconsistancies) and the MSM repeats it a million times, it does not make it a fact or true.

Actions speak louder than words. (And they didn't even speak words that were racist)- Clinton has a long history of doing right by the AA community. Barak on the other hand has the right skin color but has not done very much for the community. Don't get me wrong, I'm voting for him- but he has only shown himself to be a self serving politician.

I don't think that HRC will be president. But to threaten her electability based on the fact that she ran a close campaign against a less-qualified opponent is outrageous.

By the way- I would like to read the story about the AA senator from Illonois who ran for president after a short time in the senate who was brilliant and charismatic but who was not taken seriously- Carol Mosley Braun.

There is an awful lot of mysogyny in this country- I don't think we'll be having a female president during my lifetime- hopefully during my daughters.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

To that dude who posted that youtube link:

You really think that video's racist? Really?

If so, you are like the boy who cried wolf. And when a real racist comes (and they're out there), no one will believe people like you. No one.

Posted by: info | August 4, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

If not Clinton in 2012, who?

Would Obama run again against her? Now that'd an interesting rumble.

Posted by: info | August 4, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA '08 nuf said

Posted by: OBAMA '08 | August 4, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton supported the human genome project which concluded that humans across race shares 99.9% common genes. How can he be racist.

He might make comments which stereotypes people but we all do that. Its part of being human.

Clinton is anything but racist. He is the most charismatic guy I have ever known.

Posted by: IndianKid | August 4, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

The idea that she would win in 2012 is a joke. I'm black- Bill Clinton is finished in the Black community whether Obama wins or doesn't..... game over

Posted by: longroad | August 4, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

if you have to say it... actually, he is not a classic racist unless you consider liberal wine and cheese elite not to be a classic racist like say an Alabama Sheriff. I think blacks decide from there own experience what racism is... not him. I wish he would have said... "I am still growing, people with different lives and experience teach me things everyday".

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | August 4, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

I seriously doubt she can get the nomination in 2012 if Obama loses. Their political capitol is spent. No one owsa a Clinton anything anymore.
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For goodness sake-While I cast an enthusiatic vote for Bill Clinton in '92-it was a lesser of two evils vote cast in '96. Why? Because by that time Bill's ghost were out of the closet and haunting him big time and the Repugs were salivating at the mouths like rabid dogs pouncing and attacking at every turn. Were the repugs justified? For the most part not because he (Clinton) committed no impeachable offense. But morally he was and I believe still is bankrupt. as so many have said prior, Bill Clinton wounds regarding this past primary season were indeed self inflicted. He miscalculated the level of accepatabilty he had in the black community in that he obviously believed that blacks were some how "beholden" to him, thus to Hillary-and whatever he said, no matter how "racist" in tone would be OK because once Hillary was nominated all would be forgiven and blacks would go back to "loving and admiring" "the great white hope(s)" known as the Clintons.

What I find infuriating with the former Prez is that he is unwilling to accept that he and his wife set in motion so much of the negative that is being leveled at Obama right now by McCain.

If we (Dems) lose this election, the Clintons may very well get what they wanted all along-a chance for her to run in 2012. I'm not a betting person but I'll venture to say that if she is the Dem choice in 2012, blacks, young people and all the new voters that were added during this election cycle will stay at home. She may win, but it will be default.

And since winning is all that matters to the Clintons then oh well. I feel sorry for US.

Posted by: janie | August 4, 2008 12:49 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Puma and McCain trolls are out in full force tonight!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

For goodness sake-While I cast an enthusiatic vote for Bill Clinton in '92-it was a lesser of two evils vote cast in '96. Why? Because by that time Bill's ghost were out of the closet and haunting him big time and the Repugs were salivating at the mouths like rabid dogs pouncing and attacking at every turn. Were the repugs justified? For the most part not because he (Clinton) committed no impeachable offense. But morally he was and I believe still is bankrupt. as so many have said prior, Bill Clinton wounds regarding this past primary season were indeed self inflicted. He miscalculated the level of accepatabilty he had in the black community in that he obviously believed that blacks were some how "beholden" to him, thus to Hillary-and whatever he said, no matter how "racist" in tone would be OK because once Hillary was nominated all would be forgiven and blacks would go back to "loving and admiring" "the great white hope(s)" known as the Clintons.

What I find infuriating with the former Prez is that he is unwilling to accept that he and his wife set in motion so much of the negative that is being leveled at Obama right now by McCain.

If we (Dems) lose this election, the Clintons may very well get what they wanted all along-a chance for her to run in 2012. I'm not a betting person but I'll venture to say that if she is the Dem choice in 2012, blacks, young people and all the new voters that were added during this election cycle will stay at home. She may win, but it will be default.

And since winning is all that matters to the Clintons then oh well. I feel sorry for US.

Posted by: janie | August 4, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Eliot, look, it wasn't just what Bill Clinton said, it was the pejorative way he stated it. He wasn't just doing some impartial political analysis. Also, you ignore one important fact---Obama never said Bill Clinton was a racist or said racist things. Other people and the press did , but Obama, David Plouffe and David Axelrod never , ever stated such a thing.

Posted by: majorteddy | August 4, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I don't know who is advising Mccain but that stuff could not be better for Obama then if he did it himself. They only people that clip is aimed at are already Mccain supporters. It won't gain him one vote and certainly can't pulls an Obama voter to his side. If anything it galvanizes the Obama base and makes them even harder to get to if he had a chance in the first place.

As for Mccain it does several things to Mccain that no politician ever wants to have happen. 1. It is not dignified and no politician want to appear undignified, in this case un-presidential. 2. It trivializes Mccains message framing it in ads with no substance. 3. it begins to make Mccain seem irrelevant. As Obama talks about Issues Mccain is engaged in silliness. Mccain begins to not be a serious candidate much like many who get in the primaries who everyone knows will never win. Is this really how Mccain wants to define himself, as just irrelevant and silly?


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If you Obama played the race card last week, then this should really open your eyes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU

I had to repost this because the press is totally in the bag for McCain and they will do anything to misinform the public to ensure their cooperate profits don't dry up ...liberal press? yeah right... That's a riot...

Posted by: | August 4, 2008 12:22 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks that john McCain didn't play the race card last week, please explain to all of us why he had this you-tube add posted on JUNE 27, 2008 featuring Obama on a $100 bill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Bill, this is not the time - not the place.
For once, will you show good judgment, shut your mouth & realize that this election is about your party and not Hillary in 2012!!!!!
Please do not make me believe my wildest and most hateful ideas about you and the possibility that you don't want Obama elected!

Posted by: barbara miller | August 4, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton may not be a racist in the classical sense but he wasn't shy about using the racial devide to garner votes. Why just a couple of months ago, he was at a govnors convention of sorts, implying that they could capatilize on that devide in order to ensure a McCain win.

He's simply an opportunistic sociopath folks...no moral compass what-so-ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton said nothing wrong in his statement that Jesse Jackson won SC twice. It was a fact and he said so...the state has a large AA poupulation...fact....it was the Obama people who made it about race just as they are doing today against McCain. Clinton has every right to be pissed...at the media and at Obama....every right!!

Posted by: Eliot | August 4, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

If you Obama played the race card last week, then this should really open your eyes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU

I had to repost this because the press is totally in the bag for McCain and they will do anything to misinform the public to ensure their cooperate profits don't dry up ...liberal press? yeah right... That's a riot...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton coined that phrase himself I suspect.

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Calling Bill Clinton the "first black president" is a vicious smear that black people shouldn't stand for.

Posted by: Some Guy | August 4, 2008 12:08 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe that Bill Clinton is a racist, but that does not excuse his comments in South Carolina. He wanted his wife to win and in desparation he made a racially desparaging comment. I believe he regrets it now. He should own up to it as poor judgment in the heat of a campaign and let it go.

Posted by: xargaw | August 4, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Thats not what he said, he said if you are not happy do something about it even if you have to run for office yourself. I dare say most mayors of small towns got into politics because there was something they wanted to change. You can complain or do something. That is what he was saying.

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Obama is not a true black man. A real black man wouldn't respond to his brother's questions with sarcasms. "You can vote for someone else or run for office yourself." Screw you, Obama. You look black, but deep down you're not one of us.

Posted by: Jacson | August 3, 2008 11:38 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Calling Bill Clinton the "first black president" is a vicious smear that black people shouldn't stand for.

Posted by: Some Guy | August 4, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Mccains mistake there is those people are not buying what Mccain is selling either. A Mccain vote that is nothing more then an anti-Obama vote can slip away in a second. You can't count on those people to even vote much less for you. They may just vote for Barr or Nader. On the other have Obama votes are solid, they are not going anywhere. I have a feeling Mccain right now has all the votes he is gong to have. Obama is registering new voters every day by the thousands and a large majority will be his. I have signed up over 200 who I selected and every one will be for Obama and I will be there being sure they vote even if I have to pick them up and drive then there. Mccain has hardly anybody on the ground working and certainly not with the dedication we have.

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Bill Clinton made a lot of comments he wished he did not make and finally realizing the costs. Now McCain is using the same tactics and trying to disguise it as "humor" with that sickening grin of his (JOKER); except not everyone is laughing.

It is surprising how some individuals are trying to define Senator Obama. I watch many of the guests on these newsroom and constantly hear people make comments about Obama's race trying to define him. Pat Buchanan questions if he's "one of us"; Lou Dobbs (self proclaim Ind) always negative about Obama and trying to shape guests opinions even if they have concrete proof to prove otherwise. Hannity con stant schreeching on the airwave about Obama but never criticizing McCain no matter how much this man screws up. And it got me to thinking Senator Obama is correct - McCain is sending coded messages to his bigot supporters and hoping come November there are more them than "us".

I have no sympathy for Clinton or McCain - there is such a thing as karma.

Posted by: Reluctant Democrate | August 3, 2008 11:33 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

JWhite said "Bill Clinton learned his lessons the hard way. Serve the black community But don't expect anything from them. They'll ditch you when you need them."

are you kidding me? just how did Bill Clinton "serve the black community"? If memory serves me right, Bill Clinton would not have elected the second time had it not been for the black community. During his impeachment, his numbers among white voters hit rock bottom while his numbers among blacks skyrocketed.

the fact of the matter is that Bill really believed his own hype about being the "first black president" and along the way disrespected those who gave him a second chance when he needed it back in 1996. As far as I am concerned, all of Bill Clinton's wounds are self-inflicted so I feel no pain for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse


Since Obama spent 20 years in Wright's hate filled church, why is he running?

Posted by: Billw | August 3, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I am personally glad the "race card" came up last week. Regardless of who is responsible, at least it came to a head. Hopefully the ugly "R" will not raise its ugly head again.

Many voters, especially HRC supporters felt Obama surrogates would yell "race" when Obama was criticized. If it is true, at least the Republicans have called them on it, and it won't be used again.

Now, lets talk policy and have a good debate on who should lead this country.

Posted by: concerned08 | August 3, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not a true black man. A real black man wouldn't respond to his brother's questions with sarcasms. "You can vote for someone else or run for office yourself." Screw you, Obama. You look black, but deep down you're not one of us.

Posted by: Jacson | August 3, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, Obama 'the uniter' has succeeded at dividing the Democratic Party. The lying sob can go to hell for what he did to Hillary.

Posted by: Jameson | August 3, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton made alot of comments he wished he did not make and finally realizing the costs. Now McCain is using the same tactics and trying to disguise it as "humor" with that sickening grin of his (JOKER); except not everyone is laughing.

It is surprising how some individuals are trying to define Senator Obama. I watch many of the guests on these newsroom and constantly hear people make comments about Obama's race trying to define him. Pat Buchanan questions if he's "one of us"; Lou Dobbs (self proclaim Ind) always negative about Obama and trying to shape guests opinions even if they have concrete proof to prove otherwise. Hannity con stant schreeching on the airwave about Obama but never criticizing McCain no matter how much this man screws up. And it got me to thinking Senator Obama is correct - McCain is sending coded messages to his bigot supporters and hoping come November there are more them than "us".

I have no sympathy for Clinton or McCain - there is such a thing as karma.

Posted by: Reluctant Democrate | August 3, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wright screwed Obama, hard. Friends with privilege to the end.

Posted by: JBlack | August 3, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton learned his lessons the hard way. Serve the black community But don't expect anything from them. They'll ditch you when you need them.

Posted by: JWhite | August 3, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I love reading the idiotic comments of some folks like Dan and DEM now IND.

The 2008 election is about putting America on a better path, clear and simple.

Dan...Obama did not play the race card, the mainstream media did. They poked and prodded some black leaders to respond which got over-heated. Race and Gender were apart of this campaign from the day both Obama and Hillary announced their intentions to run for president. One only needs to put a timeline together of the Democratic primaries to see that Bill Clinton (and Hillary Clinton) made some unwise comments prior to the South Carolina primary. If election is about whom each of the candidates associated with over the past 20 years for Obama and the past 50 years for McCain, I'm sure McCain has a lot more "skeletons" in his closet.

DEM now IND...how in the hell is a self-serving womanizing draft-dodging liar like Bill Clinton a better man than Barack Obama?!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | August 3, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Are you nuts, Bill Clinton actually raped a woman and got away with it. She later passed a lie detector test. So did Paula Jones on live TV. the one Clinton sexually assaulted. Bill Clinton isn't better then anybody, he is a piece of sh&t who should be in jail. If you admire Bill Clinton then you are probably a sociopath yourself.

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Obama played the race card and now he is playing it with McCain. And it was because of playing it with Bill Clinton, and later Hillary Clinton, that I left the Democrat Party and will NEVER vote for this fraud.

President Clinton is a better man than Obama could "hope" to be. And Hillary Clinton is the better candidate and would have won in November. But now the Democrats will lose and John McCain will be the next President.

Posted by: DEM now IND | August 3, 2008 10:45 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Clinton has lost more than a step. In fact, it's time for him to step away.

Posted by: Anon | August 3, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Aside from the fact that the previous comments are almost entirely irrelevant to the news item,

As for the piece, Clinton sounds clueless. If he wants to sulk in Africa, that's his choice. But he really ought to stop trying to mess up this election.

Posted by: Helen | August 3, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Clinton did say some things. He in not so many words said of course Obama got the votes, Jessie Jackson got the black vote also. Meaning, what do you expect, They are a bunch of dumb blacks of course they are going to vote for one of their own kind. I know quite a few blacksand and Clinton has no idea how offensive what he said was. In the same respect they insulted the poor whites as being to stupid to know any better and they will just vote for the white guy because they are just dumb bigots. You can read a lot into what people say and what they mean espacialy when you know their motives. Obama didn't say a thing about Clinton if you remember correctly. It was the black community as a whole who jumped on it. Obama stayed out of it completely.

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Obama played the same way he was trying to play the race card against McCain past week... It worked agains Clinton's but isn;t going to work agains McCain as we all know about McCain and we only know about obama.. his anti american wife, 20 years pastor wright, his buddy rezko, Auchi and other radicals like Malcom X

Posted by: Dan | August 3, 2008 10:30 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama played the race card and now he is playing it with McCain. And it was because of playing it with Bill Clinton, and later Hillary Clinton, that I left the Democrat Party and will NEVER vote for this fraud.

President Clinton is a better man than Obama could "hope" to be. And Hillary Clinton is the better candidate and would have won in November. But now the Democrats will lose and John McCain will be the next President.

Posted by: DEM now IND | August 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama played the same way he was trying to play the race card against McCain past week... It worked agains Clinton's but isn;t going to work agains McCain as we all know about McCain and we only know about obama.. his anti american wife, 20 years pastor wright, his buddy rezko, Auchi and other radicals like Malcom X

Posted by: Dan | August 3, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

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