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Clinton Advisers Skipping Obama Speech

Updated 8:43 p.m.
By Matthew Mosk
A number of Sen. Hillary Clinton's top advisers will not be staying in Denver long enough to hear Barack Obama accept the nomination for president, according to sources familiar with their schedules.

Clinton will deliver her speech Tuesday night. She will hold a private meeting with her top financial supporters Wednesday at noon, and will thank her delegates at an event that afternoon. Former president Bill Clinton will speak that night. Several of Hillary Clinton's supporters are then planning to leave town -- among them, Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's campaign chairman. Another of Clinton's top New York fundraisers, Alan Patricof, did not make the trip to Denver.

Robert Zimmerman, a Clinton supporter who is trying now to navigate between the two camps, will be staying for Obama's speech. But he said in an interview that it would be unrealistic to expect there would not still be some tension between the two camps -- he noted that the same was true with supporters of Gary Hart and, to a lesser extent, Howard Dean.

"This convention provides a very important opportunity for the Obama campaign to bond with the constituencies that supported Hillary Clinton," Zimmerman said. "It's not about Barack or Hillary. It's about bringing in the people here who voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton. Senator Obama and Senator Biden are, without question, qualified to do that."

Two more longtime Clinton fundraisers -- Mark Aronchick and Hassan Nemazee -- were adamant that, while they are making early exits, it should not be viewed as a snub or symbolic gesture.

Aronchick said his daughter is getting married Sunday and he needs to get back to Philadelphia, where he raised big money for Clinton, and New York financier Nemazee has an overseas business trip he could not move.

"Don't read anything into it," Nemazee said. "There are people who may not want to stay, but I am not in that category."

Sources familiar with the schedules of longtime supporters Steven Rattner and Maureen White said earlier today they would also skip the Obama speech, but Ratter later said in an e-mail that his wife, Maureen White, "is definitely staying" to hear Obama's speech and he is hoping to attend, as well.

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CHARACTER COMPARISONS ...

Lofty speeches are great ... but actons
speak louder than words !!!

In addition to 20+ more years of service and
experience in the U.S. senate than the other
candidate ...

One candidate, John McCain watched his fellow
prisoner's backs, at great cost to himself. After
3 years as a tortured P.O.W. in Vietnam, he was
offered early release by the enemy. But, since it
would have been dishonorable to get released
before his fellow prisoners, he refused, which
resulted in 2 1/2 additional years of torture and
captivity.

The other candidate, Barack Obama threw his
self proclaimed friend, spiritual advisor, and mentor
of 20 years, under the bus for political expediency and gain.

To vote for Obama, after learning these differences ...
will say as much about your character, as it does about
the character of the two candidates.

Posted by: Howard | August 28, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

All you republicans are a joke. It's amazing how year in and year out you are so completely out of touch with the actual needs of the country. Every single president you elect destroys our economy and McBush would be no different. It never fails to amaze me how you pretend to be all "pro-life" while you ignore war, capital punishment and world hunger. Everybody knows you don't give a rip about being pro-life, it's just politically convenient for you to take that stance so all the mindless christian right-wingers will blindly follow. Your candidate is probably going to have a heart attack before November because he's so old and out of touch with reality. "Durrrr.. how many homes do I have again? Let me ask my bimbo wife if she remembers.." I can't wait until all you old conservatives are phased out of this country and my generation finally gets to take over and destroys the republican party for good.

Posted by: True Patriot | August 27, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember H. Ross Perot? In 1992, H. Ross, a Texas billionaire ran a successful third-party candidacy for president. As it turns out, H. Ross's agenda was to peel enough votes from George H. W. Bush, another Texas billionaire, who also happened to be the president and hand the election to the Democratic opposition, who just happened to be Bill Clinton. H. Ross siphoned off an estimated 20-million votes. Mission accomplished, H. Ross vanished into the ether from whence he sprung, leaving 20-million voters in the lurch. Bill Clinton went on to fulfill many of H. Ross's popular proposals, like a balanced budget. But while H. Ross's motive had been a vendetta, the Clinton's motives are political. And, on them the lesson of Perot’s displaced minions has not been lost. As Dwight D. Eisenhower said: The only thing new under the sun, is the history you don’t know: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | August 27, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

So, now Obama and the DNC want to hold the roll call away from the main hall, and stop the vote partially through ... just in case Hillary does well, which might embarrass Obama and the DNC. This is what happens when a candidate and a party manipulate the process, and try to force a candidate down the throats of the constituents. Obama might have trashed the Clintons, and gotten over 90% of the black vote, but in the process America has been thrown under the bus.

Posted by: Gina | August 27, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Hillary was so kind last night. She actually supported the party's nominee. Gosh what's next? Maybe she'll even vote for Obama.

Posted by: tanaS | August 27, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe the childishness of some of these Clinton supporters. Talk about losing one's head and one's perspective. So Clinton lost, and that's understandably tough for her supporters. But there's a way bigger picture to look at in the aftermath. Some of these people are so personally invested that they would be willing to treat their votes like trash, and throw them away to McCain in a fit of kiddie stomp-stomp-stomp. Is this what adults do? Is this what citizens who care about their country do? If they had thought seriously about the merits of voting for McCain and said that's why they'd vote for him, I would have nought to say. But to throw your vote away just to spite Obama, that's just sick sick SICK. This election is not about Clinton, Obama or who hurted whose feelers who more. it's about the fate of the nation and I dare say the fate of the rest of the world, which is inextricably linked to us and our decisions. So to Clinton supporters who won't shut up and won't let up, seriously stop your nonsense and grow up already.

Posted by: Ben | August 27, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Hillary needs to reflect seriously on whether she (a) ever wants to have a political career again and (b) whether she wants to bear the legacy of setting back the cause of woman candidates by a generation. Her never-say-die supporters are currently killing her credibility as a leader and are making many people think twice about the whole Glenn Close factor in female candidates. As a woman, I don't think any of us can afford that sort of stain.

Posted by: Mona Lisa | August 26, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Hillary needs to decide which is more important, her ego, or the Democratic Party's chance to carry the election.

Anything Hillary, or her husband, or her supporters, etc., do that is anything less than emphatic support for Obama only serves to erode the standing of the Democratic Party, and undermine its chances of winning the White House.

What does Hillary want? Does she want the next president of the USA to be a Democrat, or does she want to be the nominee?

Posted by: Snert Lee | August 26, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Who cares?

These are a handful of arrogant wealthy fundraisers who thought they could crown a nominee, but were outraised by over a million ordinary people who gave 10 dollar donations.

I don't think the 80,000 people in the stadium are going to notice their absence.

Posted by: JP | August 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Who cares?

These are a handful of arrogant wealthy fundraisers who thought they could crown a nominee, but were outraised by over a million ordinary people who gave 10 dollar donations.

I don't think the 80,000 people in the stadium are going to notice their absence.

Posted by: JP | August 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Do you know why Obama texted his supporters at 3 in the morning, Kim? It's because the media leaked it so he had to unconvieniently inform everyone early in the morning. Obama is much classier than Hillary-he wouldn't mock her. She's the one who is not only mocking him but doing her and her country a disservice by not getting all her supporters behind the next great American leader. Stop being better, get over the fact you lost, and get the 27% of her delegates who are planning on voting McCain (according to CNN's Convention coverage last night) to vote for Obama because every vote is going to be needed.

Posted by: Dylan | August 26, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

All this talk about not supporting Obama because Hillary didn't get it is so funny. I love how they try to find fault and slight in everything Obama does. Even the 3am announcement is somehow offensive to HRC. Come on people wake up. If Obama doesn't win in a landslide it will be because of turncoats like you. And don't think for a second that HRC can win in 2012 without the 19 million of us who supported the winner this time around. And yes I do believe it is racism, did we have PUMA when Howard Dean lost, what about Kennedy, or Bradley? The answer is no. And finally being 1st lady hardy makes one experienced to be president and if 2years in the US senate doesn't do it hell then 3 years (HRC) doesn't do it either. And crashing a plane and getting beat up certainly doesn't qualify you. Ask John Kerry.
In closing, support the candidate of your choice but trust that if HRC continues to sabotage this election she will never be the prez. Also if McCain is so in love with Hillary why doesn't he offer her the VP slot?

Posted by: John | August 26, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

WTF??? Slow news day???

Posted by: kgb999 | August 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

you gotta love it, for years the clintons were demi-gods and repubs were just mean spirited.

now that the the political mafia has divided against itself, the real colors show. all the same rhetoric, but now aimed at other lib's....hilarious

you fools better thank whatever it is you call a god the media & hollywood is full of socialist or you would have all been 'voted off the island' decades ago

when o when does this horrid baby boomer generation get washed out of the system so America can quit feeling guilty about gaining wealth and get on with being the greatest country on the planet

oh, that just sounds so politically incorrect, doesn't it.

Posted by: laughing at the dems | August 26, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"Considering Roe v. Wade, which President would you like to be appointing Supreme Court Justices - McCain or Obama?"

McCain. Why?

Posted by: Paris | August 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

"Considering Roe v. Wade, which President would you like to be appointing Supreme Court Justices - McCain or Obama?"

McCain. Why?

Posted by: Paris | August 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Shes no different then her male counterparts. Shes not going to just help hand this election to John McCain. Shes going to kill the democratic party all for the sake of her ego. She got arrogant and she lost. Why cant they accept that?

Oh wait... thats right. Arrogance.

Posted by: V | August 26, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I suspect most Americans will see BHO preaching to 75,000 people about "hope" and "change" and "progress" and the work of the little man...

... and see strinking similarities to Hitler's speeches in 1937-38. Both thought they were 'saviors' of their people, and that all problems could be solved if only THEY were in charge of a goernment that could control all aspects of life.

Forget "Big Brother"... it's Herr Obama!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I love all the drama at the dnc. Democrap party can't even pick a candidate. How are we to believe they can lead this country?

Posted by: fllibertarian | August 26, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

JimG. Your comments regarding Democrats who decide to vote for John McCain are very offensive. Yes, I supported Hillary in the primaries. I feel she was unfairly treated by the DNC and NBC (National Barack Channel) and ABC (Always Barack Channel). I don't watch these channels any longer because of it. How would you feel if half way into the primary season, Pelosi and Dean were calling for Barack to drop out... he can't possibly win. You'd still be outraged. While Sen. Obama has been gracious, his supporters have not. In fact, they have been the worst "winners" in history. I'm a life long Democrat but I'm seriously thinking of voting for McCain. I like some of his policies and I dislike some of Obama's so I wasn't 100% on board with anyone. What I disdain is the bullying that I see going on in the "big tent" party. I'm really disheartened by all of it.

Posted by: Sherri | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

JimG. Your comments regarding Democrats who decide to vote for John McCain are very offensive. Yes, I supported Hillary in the primaries. I feel she was unfairly treated by the DNC and NBC (National Barack Channel) and ABC (Always Barack Channel). I don't watch these channels any longer because of it. How would you feel if half way into the primary season, Pelosi and Dean were calling for Barack to drop out... he can't possibly win. You'd still be outraged. While Sen. Obama has been gracious, his supporters have not. In fact, they have been the worst "winners" in history. I'm a life long Democrat but I'm seriously thinking of voting for McCain. I like some of his policies and I dislike some of Obama's so I wasn't 100% on board with anyone. What I disdain is the bullying that I see going on in the "big tent" party. I'm really disheartened by all of it.

Posted by: Sherri | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

JimG. Your comments regarding Democrats who decide to vote for John McCain are very offensive. Yes, I supported Hillary in the primaries. I feel she was unfairly treated by the DNC and NBC (National Barack Channel) and ABC (Always Barack Channel). I don't watch these channels any longer because of it. How would you feel if half way into the primary season, Pelosi and Dean were calling for Barack to drop out... he can't possibly win. You'd still be outraged. While Sen. Obama has been gracious, his supporters have not. In fact, they have been the worst "winners" in history. I'm a life long Democrat but I'm seriously thinking of voting for McCain. I like some of his policies and I dislike some of Obama's so I wasn't 100% on board with anyone. What I disdain is the bullying that I see going on in the "big tent" party. I'm really disheartened by all of it.

Posted by: Sherri | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

So Hillary supporters should not be pissed off that Obama announced his VP choice at 3 a.m. to deliberately mock Hillary?

That is not reaching out, that is ugly and mean. He doesn't deserve her voters, nor seem to care if he gets them.

Posted by: Kim | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

So Hillary supporters should not be pissed off that Obama announced his choice at 3 a.m. to deliberately mock Hillary?

That is not reaching out, that is ugly and mean. He doesn't deserve her voters, nor seem to care if he gets them.

Posted by: Kim | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

So Hillary supporters should not be pissed off that Obama announced his VP choice at 3 a.m. to deliberately mock Hillary?

That is not reaching out, that is ugly and mean. He doesn't deserve her voters, nor seem to care if he gets them.

Posted by: Kim | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

This is such a non story as most are these days. Quite frankly, who cares if they leave? All this ink for what? Ink the issues people!Everyone is not as stupid as you need them to be.

Posted by: therealmarie | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

These comments sound like a lot of GOP trolls trying to stir the pot. How pathetic that this is all they've got. When do we get to see ads from McCain telling us what he is offering? Leadership...he isn't even leading his campaign or party. That's not leadership I can believe in.
McCain is a POW - Prisoner of W!

Posted by: Debra | August 26, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I am a conservative, I would love to see Clinton fight and take this away from Obama..


In Fact, Seriously, if she did I would vote for her in the fall....yes I would change my vote....

Talk about change...buck the system Go Hillary

Posted by: eagle | August 26, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Thursday will be Obama's and America's moment, in a stadium with 75,000 supporters and millions of viewers. For those of us watching on TV or cable, We get to experience the energy and be a part of history. A moment like this in politics will represent our time. Yes we can!

Posted by: Cooday | August 26, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I suspect Hillary's prospects for a leadership role have dimmed.

Other senators can't be happy that her supporter are running around promising to punish them.

Posted by: Betsy P | August 26, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

This is just typical of the reasoning behind me abandoning the democrats this year. So far, in the past hour, people have called me a racist, an old hag, a child who needs help in determining whome to vote for...

What happened to the democratic party that was once all-inclusive? I still consider myself a democrat, and just because I won't be toeing the party line this year doesn't make me a child, nor a racist; I cannot believe how much I read that from other democrats. I would have never thought that I would see the day that true democrats would hurl that claim at other democrats...
What has happened to OUR party?

Posted by: j | August 26, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I can't imagine anything more childish than voting for John McCain -- essentially out of spite -- because you don't like the way your candidate lost the ticket. It was Hillary's camp who offered, "Hey, politics isn't bean-bag," but now seems incapable of living with the results of that battle. Folks: Politics isn't bean bag, and to the winner goes the nomination.

You look at the result and come away so insulted that you'd vote for McCain. While you're at it, why not draft a letter to the Clintons that says, "I renounce everything that you've ever stood for and fought for. Since you lost, I'm going to vote for the pro-war shield of the Abramoff scandal, the man who has run interference for lobbyist corruption for 20 years, fights tooth and nail against healthcare benefits, would overturn Roe, continue to stack the court with conservative judges, would double-down on Bush's tax cuts, double down on Bush's war in Iraq, confront both Russia and Iran with gunboat diplomacy, privatize social security, reduce funding for education, privatize public secondary schools, finish the evisceration of environmental regulations, further isolate America from the rest of the world and live in unapologetic defiance of every progressive value with the sole justification being his time as a POW and his marriage (at the expense of his first family) to a multi-million dollar beer heiress."

Congratulations. You're co-responsible for turning American politics and the running of the free world into a contest for Junior High Class President. Now take your toys and go home.

Posted by: JimG | August 26, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I am guessing some of these idiots on this board are Republicans. Real Democrats can't be that dumb!

Posted by: The Truth | August 26, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I think O'Bama did the right thing by telling her up front that she was not in the running for the VP ... might feel better losing without the thought of TROY - the Trojan Horse

Posted by: Republic | August 26, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone elase think that Hillary or the Clintons are poor losers?

Posted by: Republic | August 26, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse


The UGLINESS of this post proves one thing clearly--

that we need some decent people, some people with class and who do care for the
future of this country.

That's the Obamas, and even the worst writers above know it.

McCain has never been a real person...first his daddy's boy, got him into college, kept him there despite his
lousey grades. Now his wife supports him.
Speaking of empty suits! The Obama's did it all themselves, against great odds.

Posted by: yuck | August 26, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse


Thank you Jimmy Carter for installing the "radical Islamists" in Iran! (You know by kicking out the Shaw!) Thank you also for giving away the Panama Canal to the "Communist Chinese"! Thank you Bill Clinton for sending in the military to Kosovo! Were "radical Islamists" wanted to break-off part of Yugoslavia and annex it to the "greater Albany"! Which is the main reason Russia thinks it is proper to do also in the nation of Georgia! Thank you also Clinton for giving a "major harbor" the Long Beach Harbor to the "communist" Chinese! Were just 1 year previously (by a mere streak of luck) were found 8000 AK 47s on board 1 ship! If Obama is elected (with what is known of him already!) Just imagine for a minute what he might do! Another Chavez ?? Is it WORTH the ???? Marks???????

Posted by: mike | August 25, 2008 11:11 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

*jon*
It's a famous photo you seem to have missed: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-moran.htm
Duh.

Posted by: Mona Lisa | August 26, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Let's Get Something Straight: The last thing HC wants is an Obama win. His loss would be payback to the media who seemed at times a part of of OB's campaign. This guy has accomplished absolutely nothing and he's our Messiah? It's like 1984: Pictures, photos, videos, stories of the Great Leader. And then there's that gaze "into the future" while he yaps vaguely about change & hope. Without a doubt, the most blatant media creation in history!

Posted by: smb12321 | August 26, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

That is TOO FUNNY!!!! To the anonymous poster leaving the message about taxes... What does it mean when you call someone a 'moron' and mis-spell it ('morans')....
What a dumb-***....

Posted by: Jon | August 26, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, J @ 8:23.
Great to be on the same TEAM. :-)

And let's give a standing ovation to AsperGirl @ 8:22!
Yes, I too believe in demanding the promised leadership skills, rather than learning all the words to the Obama chant.

karvicho @ 8:21, I predict your lack of respect for what the Clintons have done for your party is going to bite you in the butt in November.

Pray tell, how many Presidential elections have the Democrats won without a Clinton on the ticket?

That you can't even laud the accomplishments of the only dynamic political powerhouse in your party speaks volumes about why Democrats are such losers. Can you imagine any Republican Party members speaking so ignorantly about their own President, especially if they only had ONE of them elected to two terms since World War II??!

Clinton-Hating Democrats like you gag me. I left the GOP in 1998 because Clinton Hating Republicans gagged me.

Bill Clinton won a historic election for the Democrats that year. The American people came to his defense while the GOP was attempting to lynch him.
Sheesh! Can Democrats possibly get any stupider?

Only a Democrat would take a First Lady who the world recognizes as a influential leader and reduce her role in world affairs to "sipping tea" like Obama did.

Democrats like you can't see that Hillary Clinton has more experience than Barack Obama???

Pray tell, what is Nancy Pelosi's vast experience, that you faithful Democrats so believed she was fully capable of being third in line for the throne?

Her incompetence is staring us all in the face on a daily basis, and yet you have the stupidity to come on this blog and run down the only WINNERS in your own party??

I never voted for Bill Clinton.
But because of Bill Clinton, I switched Parties and enthusiastically supported Al Gore.
It was Al Gore's own Democrats, not me, who didn't fight for Al Gore.
Me, I got on a plane for Florida.
The Democrats, in contrast, were absolute WIMPS.

Senator Bill Bradley, an Obama supporter, called Al Gore "a liar" in 2000. This year Bill Bradley called Hillary Clinton "a liar."
In my book, Bill Bradley is a real LOSER compared to Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

Why would I want to be in the same Party with Bill Bradley? The Democrats have no loyalty to each other. They don't know how to work as a team.
Good riddance.

Posted by: Jan | August 26, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

It is deeply sad to watch the people posting here dust off whatever bugaboos they think will inflame — so it is “socialist” and "communist" now, is it?
My, my; how long has it been since *you* felt pride in our country?
Oh, right - the meme is “tax relief” — you free-riders don’t want to shoulder your fair share to help deliver the promise of our Constitution. You just want to get it, somehow, without funding government.
Excellent thinking, ‘morans’…

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

The democrats have no loyalty for themselves how can anyone expect them to have loyalty to the American People. Obama deserves to lose. I am changing my vote to McCain.

Posted by: Rob Mason | August 26, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

After reading the article and comments several questions come to mind.
1. Why is Hillary owed? She has done nothing, zero, nada, nil to deserve to even be considered for this. Her scumbag husband betrayed America and gave the ChiComs all of our military secrets for money for his Library.
2. Why is McCain any better? When shot down he spilled his guts to the Commies so he could get medical attention while other POW's honored and followed their rules of training. He is no better.
3. And BO is so new and inexperienced that he would not know what to do even with Biden as his VP.
Posted by: The Real Truth | August 26, 2008 1:11 AM
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You are missing the point that most americans miss. Obama is a true Communist. He himself is a Communist. An all out full fledged Communist.

Look into it. He was strongly influenced as a child by Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii. Frank was black and the leader of the Communist Part in Hawaii. It was because of Frank that Obama abandonded his white mother and embraced being Black. do some google searches. Obama does not deny that he is Communist. Many Black people were communist back then. They saw it as a way to survive in a segregated society. So while whites have changed to accept blacks the blacks have not yet healed their communist beliefs and desire to see black rule in America.

Let me invite you to look at the policies of Obama in light that he is communist. You will immediately realize that his policies are communist. what more proof do you need. He is dangerous. Communism will control America.

Communism wants to take all money to the government and distribute it because that makes the gov the strong one. all dependent on the gov. It is a clever trick of the mind. Thus they tax those with money. But the real intention is not to give to the poor but to keep the money for their own power.

Take a good look at Russia and President Putin a communist president. Is that what Americans want. I say no.

We need for Hillary to somehow get the party back away from the communist Obama. We need Hillary to maintain some power but we must oppose Obama at all costs. We must hope that Hillary can get the power of the party back next election. I see no other solution at this time.

This is America. I am an American. I will never support Communism.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

The perpetual belief that if you are not an Obama supporter, you're a racist, is ubiquitous, tired and burgeoning sloth. Give it a rest already. Obama has played the race card time and time again. He gave a "major speech" on race where he coined the phrase "typical white person" about his own Grandmother. Race was how he rose from the "streets of Chicago". Race is how he catapulted himself on the scene. He has used it every step of the way. From the pews at Trinity Church, to the Denver convention. You are not a racist if you don't support this man who based his entire claim to fame on the fact he didn't support the Iraq war to gain favor with the Moveon'ers, then discarded them like yesterdays paper in selecting a war hawk like Joe Biden and is now talking about "responsibly" getting out of Iraq. Did you hear Michelle try to slip that one by us last night to move the goalposts ahead of Joe Biden and now her 13 faced husband?

Posted by: Curt | August 26, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Sounds as though you are just a RACIST OLD HAG, and that is something OUR party doesn't need!!! Just remember, when we win this November, it will be based on principle, and YOUR worthless principled stand will leave you out in the cold; where you deserve to be.

HIL/BILL supporters are TRAITORS
Get OVER IT!!!

Posted by: Stan | August 26, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is here, now, for this Country because she knows we need a competent President and Obama is not it. She is a wise woman who did not drag out a destructive, expensive campaign but she is still here.

I pray that the Superdelegates vote to nominate her as the Presidential Candidate.

Posted by: Not Fooled | August 26, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Looks like we need to raise the voting age to where we can prove those casting their ballots are actually adults and not children throwing tantrums. So, all my adult life, I have voted the lesser of two evils. My candidate -- the one I registered voters on behalf of, made calls for, walked districts and knocked on doors for, wrote checks for, hosted houseparties on behalf of -- has never gone the distance. And neither did Hillary Clinton. But I would not have been able to forgive myself if I had just sat home while John Kerry attempted to derail George Bush's second term, bringing us Roberts & Alito, not to mention a host of other long-term-damaging acts. So, thanks to all you who can't get over not going to the prom with the cutest guy in school. It will be great for my kid to raise his family in the ashes of John McCain's presidency. It will be terrific for my career military husband to carry on under a commander in chief who thinks 100 years sounds about right. Good for you -- taking a principled stand!

Posted by: Mona Lisa | August 26, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Stan... the 'party' depends on people like you... Your statement that you would rather vote for a dog as a democrat than a person as a republican shows that you don't have a mind of your own.

You are the one who is a dog; a good dog at that, who comes when he is called.

Posted by: j | August 26, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

You Demoncraps and your moron politicians. Unity my @#$. THe Clintons don't care about you, they don't care about me, there is no way they care about America, they certainly dont even care about their own party. THey only care about themselves and power. PLease quit empowering them. They are trailer trash and you should be embarassed. God help our country, and keep us from these wreched people.

Posted by: xjug1987 | August 26, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Republican Agenda Revised

11:00 AM Obama Make Martini's
11:01 AM Drink Martini's
11:02 AM Congratuate one another for Democratic Convention antics. Give Leave Obama a nice Tip and congratulate him on his nomination and thank him for being a symbol.
11:10 AM Continue ruling the planet, exploiting peoples and resources. Continue charade that democracy works.

Posted by: ALPHONSE | August 26, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

This is funny... The democrats tried for many decades to portray republicans as racist. Although history is not on their side as the democrats tried to block the abolishment of slavery and tried to block civil rights. The democrats even have a former KKK member serving in the US senate.

And look at the comments in this thread about Obama from other fellow democrats... ROFLMAO .. Face it Hillary lost, you don't have to scream racial slurs, you are only making the democrat party look like racist.

Now on to the General Election. The messiah will get creamed... The man has no experience, and has not accomplished anything that qualifies him for the presidency. Landslide for McCain '08.

Posted by: Corey | August 26, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

POTUS is not an affirmative action position

Posted by: Leon Little | August 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

POTUS is not an affirmative action position

Posted by: Leon Little | August 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

POTUS is not an affirmative action position

Posted by: Leon Little | August 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

HOLY CRAP... I am SO TIRED of hearing HIL/BILL suporters WHINING over her well deserved LOSS!!!!!!!! SHe blew it; face the FACTS and GET OVER IT.

I would rather vote for a BLUE DOG than vote for another 8 years under McSame.

If you vote for McSame, out of disgust over Hil/Bill you are a TRAITOR to your party and to your people. The party is better off WITHOUT you!!!

Posted by: Stan | August 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

HOLY CRAP... I am SO TIRED of hearing HIL/BILL suporters WHINING over her well deserved LOSS!!!!!!!! SHe blew it; face the FACTS and GET OVER IT.

I would rather vote for a BLUE DOG than vote for another 8 years under McSame.

If you vote for McSame, out of disgust over Hil/Bill you are a TRAITOR to your party and to your people. The party is better off WITHOUT you!!!

Posted by: Stan | August 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

CLEAN UP THIS BLOG! - You need a mis- spell checker: What do you think a n1gger is, the person between n0gger and n2gger??? Here is what has been posted for the world to see:
"Obama The nlgger Muslim ...
Posted by: Stevo | August 25, 2008 10:57 PM"

Posted by: Jim Simonetti | August 26, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Jan, I couldn't have said it better myself... I am so tired of hearing how we should vote for the TEAM... It is this mentality that has caused the downfall of the party in the first place.

Mr. Obama, your 'team' no longer represents me, or my ideas, or my beliefs. Maybe someday we, as democrats, can elect someone who represents ALL democrats, rather than finding someone we hope can simply win an election.

Putting the WRONG person in a position, simply for the sake of winning is not winning, it is losing...

Posted by: J | August 26, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

WHAT'S IN A WORD? "UNITY" VS. "LEADERSHIP"

The lack of respect shown ofClinton and her supporters continues with the crude portrayals of us as "holdouts" and criticism as to why we're not "unifying" with Obama.

If a chunk of the base won't go to a leader, it's usually considered a leadership issue, not a "unity" problem. Given all of Obama's snubbing of Clinton, and all the work it's taken just to force him to keep with traditions for the minimum gestures of unity (helping retire the campaign debt of the runner up in a close race and permitting a nomination and roll call), it's clear that Obama's personal animosity and disrespect for Clinton and her supporters is more important to him than unity. That means it's a leadership issue.

"... it is usually the job of the party nominee to build unity once a vanquished rival has conceded and made the right gestures. Unless the loser happens to be a woman"

Clinton's Thankless Job - Marie Cocco, Indianapolis Star
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/clinton_blamed_no_matter_what.html

It's a biased and socially impoverished commentator who tells sections of a disrespected and unsupported group, to "show unity" and get behind the leader. The operative word isn't "unity", which is a word that projects the responsibility for a failure of leadership onto those who fail to unite. The operative word is "leadership", the first rule of which is that the prospective leader must induce people to follow him.

What we're seeing isn't a failure to "unify" but a "leadership" failure. The disrespectful signals and snubs that Obama and his supporters constantly send out, that are critical toward the Clintons and her supporters, and that reinforce a growing consensus that he holds a personal animosity and grudge toward her, is a failure of Obama's prospective "leadership", not a failure of her followers to show "unity".

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 26, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

white folks we know you are ready for a black president - this is one of the reason I'm glad Obama is running - to put race directly in your face.

get over the lose

Posted by: rlp-politcal | August 26, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

You're a real nut job blackdog....

Posted by: Bill | August 26, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

The pro-Hilary camp goes on about her experience and Obama having next to none. Hilary has never been President as far as I can remember. So, what "experience does she have that he doesn't?" Could it be working as Walmart counsel and helping it keep labor from organizing for fair wages? If they mean that experience, well then I guess she has more. By the way..the majority of Walmart employees are women making minimum wage which is used to support their families.

Then there is universal health care--she rolled over and kept her head down after she got called a few names by lobbyiest when she even dared mention it the subject during the time Bill was in office. Funny, I remember her walking several steps behind him for a long time after that little fiasco. And I don't remember too many Hilary supporters men or women thinking she even had a good idea at the time.

Does her being a woman who has kept her husband despite his very public and abusive philandering make Hilary more experienced for the job? Hmmm. I will have to think on that for a bit.

At the end of the day-- the whinging Hilary supporters are rather un-American in their continued efforts to push for a candidate whom the majority has not voted for.

Posted by: karvictho | August 26, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The 2008 coronation of hussein obama has been orchestrated by AmeriKas media. Hillary was stopped by AmeriKas media. AmeriKas stupid children and their communist parents will put hussein in office. AmeriKa will die a slow death as property rights and personal rights and personal wealth is all confiscated by the marxist Obama and redistributed to the minorities (afros). Retribution payments will bankrupt families and small businesses. Have a nice liberal socialist communist day you stupid fools and maybe barry and michele will give you some money for your vote too. AmeriKa, the land of the socialist workers paradise. You gonna love it you liberal mental cases.

Posted by: blackdog | August 26, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Women who claim to be "ashamed" of other women who stand up for their right to vote for anyone they want to, regardless of what the DNC demands, are the very women who drive me, my husband, and my mom right out of the Democratic party.
FACT: The DNC LOSES elections.

Why would we want to jump to the demands of a political party that hasn't managed to win a Presidential in 30 years without the Clintons?

My husband is a combat vet. He went to war for you TWICE. And you're ashamed of HIM for ignoring the DNC, instead of being ashamed of the DNC for ignoring him?!!?
How sad.

I would never want to be in the same party with anyone who tells me who I'd better vote for a certain inexperienced candidate or else they will be "ashamed" of me.
Go run someone else's life.

Feel FREE to be corralled into the tiny little DNC holding pen, sit still like good little Democrats, and wait until you are told exactly how high to jump (and don't DARE to jump higher!)

Your messages to us:
We need your 18 million votes, who cares about your 18 million votes, my candidate got 18 thousand votes and he's not complaining, don't vote, we don't need your vote, we hate the Clintons, we hate the Clinton supporters, you're an old hag, shut up, go away, we don't believe you even exist, you must be Republicans (yes, we are now), Racists!, you must be having your period, the Clintons are racists, Hillary must be having her period, the Clintons are selfish, the Clintons are losers (LMFAO on THAT one!), the Clintons don't really care about you, abortion, abortion, abortion, McCain left his first wife, unity, unity, unity, houses, unity, Rezko?, unity, Wright?, unity, Ayers?, unity, go away.

This is not about women. This is not about Hillary Clinton. This is not about abortion. This is not about Barack Obama.

This is about the DNC.
This is about refusing to kow-tow to a political party who ignores your voice. I don't kow-tow when ignored; my husband doesn't; my mom doesn't.

We are Clinton Republicans now.
Ted Kennedy drove us out of the DNC in 1980. How'd that work out for Democrats?

Bill Clinton invited us back in 1992. How'd that work out for Democrats?

James Clyburn drove us out again in 2008. We'll see how that works out for Democrats in 2008.

The DNC made a choice to simply ignore 18 million voices and tell us to shut up and "behave" ourselves. Any voter who takes that crap is a sheep. I'm not a sheep.

President John McCain doesn't scare me. John McCain is an experienced bipartisan American hero with a record of working against his own party and with Democrats, for the good of America -- education reform, campaign finance reform, immigration reform, calling for the firing of Donald Rumsfield, demanding a winning strategy in Iraq, not taking crap from Putin and Russia, and so on.

You know what scares me?
Another inexperienced candidate with a cult following, who believes he is god-ordained, who sends shivers up the legs of the media, while promising to be a uniter not a divider.

Clinton Republicans have gone away. We only come on the boards when someone refuses to believe the falling polls, plans on blaming the Clintons when BHO loses, or tells us to shut up.

See ya in November.
My HOPE is that the Clintons bring us a third party and they shake the DNC LOSER dust off their feet, so we can win some elections for a CHANGE we can believe in.

Posted by: Jan | August 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Voting for someone for the most powerful position in the world simply because they're black or white or female or rich or poor or a snappy dresser etc. etc. is just plain shallow and stupid.

Posted by: Kathy | August 26, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I like democrats. Someone got to ask me if I'd like fries with that.

Posted by: Jay Johnstone | August 26, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

CR..........Yeh right

Posted by: Susan | August 26, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember Pat Buchanan stating this year on Hardball, (before the Rep primaries were over) that "If McCain is elected, he will make Bush look like Ghandi?"

Posted by: Gordon | August 26, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

McCain Staffer? Funny, I wish. I'm sitting in Iraq. You figure it out...

Posted by: CR | August 26, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Susan..... You should have included H.Clinton in your list. She's behaving the same as she did in 2000 and 2004, "barely" campaigning for the Dem candidate.

Posted by: Michael | August 26, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Would all you McCain-Bush campaign staffers, please KEEP OFF THIS BOARD! You're SO obvious!

Posted by: Susan | August 26, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Love to hear all the Democrats infighting. Funny how all the old tricks used on Republicans are now being used against each other within the Democratic party, like the crying about popular vote, refusal to accept defeat, calling people racist, etc. Not very nice to be on the end of a Democratic smear campaign is it? Keep it up! Thanks!

Posted by: CR | August 26, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

When will the MSM pick up on Obamas blatant racism. He has made it crystal clear that his white half hates his black half. If you don't believe this then ask yourself why he so adamantly supports abortion when black women have abortions at over double the rate of white women.
Now tell me, where is Jesse, Al and the NAACP? Is everyone going to ignore this?

Posted by: Beijing Bob | August 26, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Booker T Jones | August 26, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

You Obama supporters represent everything that is bad in the two party system; vote for 'our parties candidate' no matter who it is and what they believe, just so OUR candidate gets into the white house... What a crock. Has it come to the point that we vote ONLY for a party, and not the person running for office?

I supported Hillary based on her experience and beliefs. I believe in her, and have followed her career for years. There is safety in voting for someone who you can trust, who has been there, and who you can count on.

I will not vote for Obama, simply based on what he says he will do vs: what he has done in the past. Face the facts, the man is a media image, nothing more. He has done virtually nothing to date, and yet we are supposed to simply pull the lever HOPING that he will do SOMETHING that we believe, when he has done nothing to date?

Don't chide me for voting for McCain over Obama; I, for one, am a person who still votes based on the INDIVIDUAL, not on the party. When faced with the two choices (McCain vs: Obama) I will vote for the one with experience and background. It is YOUR fault that our party has put up this unknown entity for our candidate; don't blame Hillary voters when he loses; blame yourselves...

Posted by: J | August 26, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse


Obamessiah may just ASCEND on Thursday night...not to the Presidency...but towards the Heavens!

Posted by: gutsygirl | August 26, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Hillary and her voters got bent over the same table Bill made at the DNC.

Posted by: Willy | August 26, 2008 7:28 AM | Report abuse

The PUMA faction, suckled by GOP provocateurs, is wrecking Hillary's hope for any kind of political future. Their petulant whinging makes her (and possibly any future woman candidates) seem radioactive. Seriously, her own career and legacy aside, this childish drama is setting back the cause for woman candidates a good half entury.

Posted by: gal from nj | August 26, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Obamakins and the VERY STUPID TABOLID CABLE TV CNN & MSNBC need to stop blaming the Clintons for everything including the ALL Obamas gaffes and the knowledge that voters are finding out for themselves because cable news won’t report the truth about his racist & terrorist’s friends... This is why the DNC does not have unity, Senator Clinton WON the popular vote, since June 7, obama has accepted ALL of Clintons solutions during the primaries that he argued against, his whined the entire primary as did his followers “ But she voted for the war” wa wa wa... SO DID JOE BIDEN! but she has been in Washington too long, that’s not change" wa wa wa... BIDEN has been in Washington much Longer... Senator Clinton won 18 million votes...and David Axelrod said Obama doesn’t need her supporters, then why are they begging for them now...

After all she has endured this season, and the ONLY candidate EVER to do as much for the other guy than any MAN in history and still is slammed by the racist Obamakins and cable news...THERES YOUR REASONS FOR NO DNC UNITY!!!!!!

GROW UP OBAMAKINS HS IS NOT THE SAINT YOU SO DESPERATLY NEED TO BELEIVE with the truth being told about him only now...

Senator Hillary Clinton is one of the greatest Women of the 21st century!!!!! And Obama should he is FOOLISH not to have asked her to be VP, I doubt she would have accepted. The truth be told he knew he needs her, but Michelle demanded he did don’t, shows he still needs to be told what to do, we do not need Michelle trying to run the White House, especially when she lost hundreds of jobs for minorities in Chicago Hospt.

Cable news media especially CNN & MSNBC as frankly put the security of our great country at risk with an Obama coronation. It’s extremely concerning that so many Americans could care less about who their candidate really is?? Simply amazing and frankly scary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY


Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

...and why did we NEED to know this?

Who cares where Hillary's advisors are at any point during this week?

It's my understanding that many in the Clinton "camp" won't be offered positions by Barack's "people." (Stands to reason, they can not be trusted and Barack does not need Clinton-like folks around to sabotage his every move. (Maybe even attempt to, "set him up" with one of Bill's old familiar street hussies)).

Rightly, they all need to be some where looking for serious work.

Posted by: Reggie Boykins | August 26, 2008 5:45 AM | Report abuse

I was a Hillary supporter, however when I see the vitriol from all the other women I realize we are not ready. We lost get over it. I am beginning to believe a lot of this is subtle racism. I wonder what Hillary supporters think Obama's supporters' will do in 2012. She and Bill can count their careers over if they don't support this ticket. Hillary and her supporters should stop their sense of entitlement. I am ashamed of these women acting like children. We lost, get over it and support our party. If not, we will not be able to elect a woman for dog catcher. Even though I voted for Hillary I never got over her enabling that low life husband. At least we don't have to hear all the horror stories about who he is sleeping with the next four years,

Posted by: evelyn smith | August 26, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm registered as "no party." I will be voting McCain. The only real experience Obama has is as a community organizer. The opening night of the Democratic convention was just so bland. From Michelle's brother I learned that Obama likes basketball. From Michelle, I learned that Obama loves his family and did a great job as a community organizer. I'm sorry -- that doesn't cut it for me.

Posted by: suntzu | August 26, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters:

Dudn' matter what kinda judges McCain nominates. He won't get them past the Senate, with or without 60 senators....but it looks like the Dems could add enough to roll him.

Obama is a rookie. Just terribly green, out of his depth. He should stick to local politics...or be an inspiring college professor. He just doesn't have the stuff to run a massively omplicated country. He HAS NO RECORD, PEOPLE.

I hate the Clintons, but Obama makes me nostalgic for them already. They knew what they were doing, son.

Posted by: DogT3 | August 26, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters:

Dudn' matter what kinda judges McCain nominates. He won't get them past the Senate, with or without 60 senators....but it looks like the Dems could add enough to roll him.

Obama is a rookie. Just terribly green, out of his depth. He should stick to local politics...or be an inspiring college professor. He just doesn't have the stuff to run a massively omplicated country. He HAS NO RECORD, PEOPLE.

I hate the Clintons, but Obama makes me nostalgic for them already. They knew what they were doing, son.

Posted by: DogT3 | August 26, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Dick Cabesa, like his mouth and head (cabeza), is full of stench and filth. You stink, Democrat or Republican!

Indeed, if Obama can't get the Democrats united, how govern across the aisle?

Posted by: Linda P | August 26, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

One thing, at least, is certain.

Obama is an absolute failure at being the "great uniter" he likes to style himself as.

Posted by: GM | August 26, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Democrats courting Republican and Independent Voters!

The Chantay's - Pipeline (Lawrence Welk Show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Yeil Raven | August 26, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Democrats and white Americans alike are so afraid that we are fast becoming the minority that we have band together to create lies and all sorts of false ideas about Obama. This includes the christian leaders, politicians, the media, the hate groups and we say they play the race card. This is from a white msn. America you must think Heaven is a Pig Pen

Posted by: Man in the Mirrow | August 26, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

"Considering Roe v. Wade, which President would you like to be appointing Supreme Court Justices - McCain or Obama?"

Well, we could have anothe Ginsberg from Obama, someone who reads OTHER constitutions for help to REINTERPRET our own constituion. Or, we could have another Scalia who reads OUR constituion and the writings of those who wrote it.

Vote no to NObama

We at least stand a chance to remain America, land of the Free that way

Posted by: Reason | August 26, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

People need to remember that Hillary Clinton is a victim, and America owed her the presidency. You can be sure that she will be voting McCain this november, with hopes that Obama will lose and make way for her to run in 2012.

Posted by: Ryan R | August 26, 2008 12:17 AM

Wrong on both counts Ryan! We and this country don't owe her any damn thing and she will be writing her own name in the write in box come voting day...you can bet on that

Posted by: TV | August 26, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

So what.

Posted by: vandem | August 26, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Writing Hillary in or voting McCain is NOT what Hillary wants. If you truly support her you will listen to and respect HER wishes. She wants Obama now simply because as a Democrat first, she ultimately wants America to prosper once again and to have a strong ally in the White House, once again. Hillary and Obama threw all they had at each other in the primary, thats what politicians do, but at the end of the day they don't abandon or turn on t heir own team when faced by their common enemy, and in this case that is John McCain. You vote for Obama as a Hillary supporter, like me, because you realize Obama and Hillary are basically one in the same in the end and John McCain is our true opposition. Don't be stupid and selfish and vote for McCain out of spite, or stay home on election day or write Hillary in, you won't be making Hillary proud or happy, you won't be doing anything but helping McCain, Bush and the Republ;icans WIN, again. You will just be ignoring everything Hillary really stands for as a true Democrtat loyal to her fellow Democrats. I am a huge fan and supporter of the Clintons, for many years now, and I want her as much as any Hillary supporter as our President, but the fact is, Obama is now in position to be the President, and he is a Democrat who closest represents MY values as a Democrat. I will support the Obama / Biden ticket all the way, and if you really care about Hillary, the Democrats, the future of America, our future, you will support Obama and Biden too, along with me. Give them a chance, you will find you won't regret it if you do.

Posted by: Hillary 08 | August 26, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

What most fail to understand is that many democrats will never vote for obama, not because of policy issues, but because of ideological issues. These voters will vote based on the country's best interest, not party affiliation. They will vote for democracy, not greed and corruption. They will vote based on the electorate making the decision, not on party insiders and leadership pushing their wishes upon the electorate. For this particular ex-democrat, I will never vote for a black supremacist, marxist/socialist obama. He is wrong for America. What puzzles me is how could so many vote against our country by supporting such a radical fraud as obama?

Used2bdemocrat

Posted by: Used2bdemocrat | August 26, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

After reading the article and comments several questions come to mind.
1. Why is Hillary owed? She has done nothing, zero, nada, nil to deserve to even be considered for this. Her scumbag husband betrayed America and gave the ChiComs all of our military secrets for money for his Library.
2. Why is McCain any better? When shot down he spilled his guts to the Commies so he could get medical attention while other POW's honored and followed their rules of training. He is no better.
3. And BO is so new and inexperienced that he would not know what to do even with Biden as his VP.
So it boils down to the fact that America this time is in BIG trouble with no one suited for the job. What do we do? We demand that the Constitution be followed and have a new election run by the people decide, not the Parties. There were no Parties who dictated the election back when our Founding Fathers set America up. It is time to stand up as people and say NO to these idiots who are determined to destroy America.

Posted by: The Real Truth | August 26, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters:

Considering Roe v. Wade, which President would you like to be appointing Supreme Court Justices - McCain or Obama?

I rest my case.

Posted by: tex805 | August 26, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Michelle is plumping up rather nicely don't you think?

I think Hillary is only upset because she lost to a con-man. If she had lost to a worthy adversary she would accept it gracefully but she knows that she has more leadership experience in a used tampon than he has in his whole history. I think if it weren't for Bill she would have won handily.

Which is why I'm voting for McCain. Either way, (Oßama or McCain) it would be a one term presidency. At least with McCain there will be an economy, military and government to salvage four years from now.

Posted by: Jim Mc | August 26, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Despite all of the phony talk about unity, the democrats are a broken party. The Hillary Clinton faction of this organization is pissed and they are not about to abandon their position. It seems like this convention is only serving to make them more upset then they already are. I am a republican, and I know that most of us are disgusted that we got stuck with McCain, but we do love seeing the democrats at war with eachother. It gets pretty ugly when liberals turn on eachother. It's like two venomous snakes snapping at eachother. They'll most likely take eachother down in the process.

Posted by: Ryan R | August 26, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Who cares if Hillary's advisors leave early? they are not needed in the process. their job was done 6 months ago on Feb 19th when Obama's lead became insurmountable.

Posted by: aDCBeast | August 26, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Hillary will never get over hatred for Barck Obama. He stole her presidency, and she will never forgive and forget. This was suppose to be her convention, she was suppose to be up there giving her acceptance speech. How this unknown black guy managed to swoop in and take what is hers, she will never understand. Right now she is doing her best to keep a smile on her face, but we all know that in private she is hissing and spitting over what Obama has done to her. She would have never bothered running for the senate had she known it would turn out like this. I think the Clintons are both stunned over being thrown under the bus by the democratic party. People need to remember that Hillary Clinton is a victim, and America owed her the presidency. You can be sure that she will be voting McCain this november, with hopes that Obama will lose and make way for her to run in 2012.

Posted by: Ryan R | August 26, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

And if the Obama people were to skip out on Hillary Clinton's speech, you know they'd be whining like mad.

Posted by: Chris | August 26, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Obama was the last man in Chicago to realize that Rezko was a crook. When the papers make it clear that Rezko is under serious investigation Obama decides to check it out -- so he goes to Rezko and asks him. Obama claims that he believed the answer. So what I want to know is Obama crazy or does he just think we are?

I also remember the NY Times article showing that Obama lied about his failure to pass nuclear leak legislation and his replacement proposal sold out to the nuclear industry.

Given their respective characters I'd far rather vote for McCain despite the fact that I disagree with the majority of McCain's policy choices.

McCain is the one who is the guy who said that the evangelicals were bullies. Obama is the one who picked Wright, Pfleger and Meeks as mentors.

As to all of Obama's promises about policies I always thought that Obama would sell out because of his strong desire to be loved by any one and after the FISA cave I no longer trust anything he says.


Biden did enable Clarence Thomas's confirmation. Go back and do your research.

WIth the exception of the blacks, Obama is being supported by the same groups who fell fo the idea that Bush was a compassionate conservative.

Posted by: janemichener@sbcglobal.net | August 26, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Obama is our only hope.

Four more years of Republican policies will bankrupt America.

Vote Democrat this November or regret it FOREVER.

Posted by: Chris H. | August 26, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

McCain '08 Hillary '12 !!! Go PUMAS!!!! Tonight changed nothing!

Posted by: nick | August 25, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I just watched Michelle Obama's speech and all I can think about is "Dog Titties".
Seriously, that dress did not flatter her.

Mike

Posted by: Mike Smith | August 25, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I see where 4 people have been arrested in connection with an assassination attempt against Obama.

I see Hillary got her shooters in place just a hair to early. After Vince Foster, I'm sure she was feeling pretty cocky!

Posted by: Reason | August 25, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's supporters will not feel comfortable in McCain's camp, where they are described as femi nazi baby killers. If they vote for McCain, they know there will be at least two more scalia'a or alito's on the Court and then good bye to Roe v. Wade.

Posted by: fblaze | August 25, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Dems/Socials show their faces for what they are during this 'convention'. Mean spririted, greedy and willing to do ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING to win. If it means siding with the enemy, even terrorists, they will. Because THEY know everything and believe THEY can control everything the way they want it. Just give us power power power power power power.......

Posted by: Reason | August 25, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Who cares whether certain "longtime Clinton fundraisers" are staying or going? It is so irrelevant. They are unknown to virtually everyone. Their presence means nothing; their absence means the same. Their fundraising prowess is unneeded. Their votes count no more than anyone else's vote. This is a not worth of a story. This story merely illustrates the political media's propensity for reinforcing their own chosen narrative regardless of its relevance or importance. More than reporting the "facts" of a fundraiser's absence, the article tries to force feed the implications and meaning that the report chooses to impose on the facts. No one cares, but unfortunately it is crap like this that drowns out meaningful discussion.

Posted by: JY in California | August 25, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

"SteveO," I wasn't aware that the Klu Klux Klan voted for Democrats. Thanks for the information. You should slither back into your hole and make more thumb-less babies with your web-toed cousins. You and people like you are a strong argument for retroactive abortion. Now it's time for you to go pleasure your goats. Enjoy!

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 25, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain will win this election thanks to Hillary and Bill. They have every reason to watch Obama lose and Hillary run again in 2012 when McCain has the country on the brink of disaster.

Posted by: BBB202 | August 25, 2008 4:02 PM

===============NEWSBREAK============
The country is already on the brink of disaster, right now in 2008. Wake up!

It is sad how people openly attempt to blackmail a presidential candidate and are allowed to get a way with it. Any dem that thinks blackmail will end with a good result is crazy.

You don't tell adults what they must do to win and election. Not me anyway, I will take my chances just to prove to you that you do not control me as a person.

Posted by: Angel | August 25, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Jimmy Carter for installing the "radical Islamists" in Iran! (You know by kicking out the Shaw!) Thank you also for giving away the Panama Canal to the "Communist Chinese"! Thank you Bill Clinton for sending in the military to Kosovo! Were "radical Islamists" wanted to break-off part of Yugoslavia and annex it to the "greater Albany"! Which is the main reason Russia thinks it is proper to do also in the nation of Georgia! Thank you also Clinton for giving a "major harbor" the Long Beach Harbor to the "communist" Chinese! Were just 1 year previously (by a mere streak of luck) were found 8000 AK 47s on board 1 ship! If Obama is elected (with what is known of him already!) Just imagine for a minute what he might do!

Posted by: mike | August 25, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

wow, some of you on this post need therapy. Read what you people have written here!!!
The democrates are about to implode with their lies and hate. for America,the military and anyone who is not like them. Peace...not from the left... just higher taxes, more government control as they line their pockets with power. Obama is a prop for the leftwing. His donors are all from big business, ( his small donors are less than Kerry had in '04)He spews the propaganda that Pelosi and the other puppet masters give to him. An empty suit who knows how to read well. NOBAMA

Posted by: Daisy | August 25, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Stevo, I am a hard-core Hillary fan who is really fed up with Obama and Obamania, but your racial slur was completely revolting. Such epithets belong in the last century. If you make further comments such as that we will make sure you get your dumb ass banned from this site. Go join Lyndon Larouche's movement.

Posted by: fred gill | August 25, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry "Deep Blue." My mistake. I just did not realize that anyone could be such a throwback to post the self-inflicted moniker "Dude."

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 25, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary, Obama. Doesn't really matter, either one means Socialism. Why do you Leftist/Socialist/Democrats want Europe here? If Europe was so wonderful with its Socialism and Communism, why don't you go there and leave this last bastion of Freedom?

Every Democrat.....er....Socialist wants income distribution.....er...Socialism and each thinks THEY are going to be calling the shots. Well, how about if you DO usher in Socialism and YOU are at the bottom of the food chain?

Posted by: Reason | August 25, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama The nlgger Muslim stole this nomination from Hillary with help from all the other worthless minorities that infest this country. Now we have to deal with another republican president? Oh god help us!

Posted by: Stevo | August 25, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

"Deep Blue", could you please clarify the comment to which you are responding.

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 25, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame them, what a zoo! I wonder if Code Pink and the PUMA's are going to spring the anarchists when they are imprisoned for lobbing pee and poo filled balloons?!

Posted by: Thersites | August 25, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

a few years ago, my Vp was listening to my plans for the year with my clients. I said, "I hope to do ....", "I hope to do that.....". He finally told me, "Hope is not a strategy. if you dont have a concrete plan you are doomed". Its true, Hope is not a strategy.

Posted by: hungryneck | August 25, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

This thing is already over folks and has been for the last month. Obama is sinking like a rock.

Funniest thing I have ever seen. Ted Kennedy is nothing but a murderer and bringing his barely alive rear end out there does nothing but bring back memories. Just proves some are completely stupid to keep re-electing him. Oh, I forgot, his last name means American Royalty. My ass!!

McCain wins in a 55-45 vote. You heard it hear first.

Posted by: JockEwing | August 25, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Dude,

You need to read a book or some policy papers or something. If you think you are influencing anyone with your ignorant diatribe you are mistaken. And if you want an amen corner go to the Fox site.

Peace out, you are a shining example on the world wide web for all of allies to see exactly how stupid Republican voters are- you are a miserable excuse for an American.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

You Hillary supporters who claim that you're going to vote for McCain will be voting against your own interests. Hillary, by her own admission, has stated that her platform differs very little from that of Obama. Obama's platform is a near polar opposite of McCain's platform. McCain is in the pocket of lobbyists. He has more than fifty lifelong lobbyists working at the highest levels of his campaign. If you don't believe that this is a fact then do the research. McCain is the war candidate. If he is elected he will start new wars. When you and/or your family members are fighting and dying in pointless wars as American cities begin disappearing in blinding flashes of light, the last sound that you'll hear as you're surfing the top of a fifty thousand foot tall fireball will be my dry cackle asking, "Are you happy now?"

Posted by: happyallthetime | August 25, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

So, let's suppose Grandpa Simpson (McCain) and Hillary as Repub VP actually win in November. Wow..what a sad time to look forward to. But, at least you have no need to wonder why your kids and grandkids hate coming over to your house and you're alone on Thanksgiving. (Oh wait - you'll be keeping company with the other grumpy, hateful, selfish, warmongers - no doubt waering pantsuits! Sounds like fun! Sorry the rest of the world has other plans. Feel free to join us for dessert, if you get bored!)Meantime, maybe you can make jerky frm the dried out left over turkey of your campaign!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

CFM,

You are right, the Republicans are conservatives they are a corrupt elite, a bunch of crooks.

Bush I told Saddam he didn't care if he invaded Kuwait or now, then unleashed hell on him. Bush II fought Iraq II as a military operation designed to protect our access to oil.

Our foreign policy is not predicated on the notion of national security, but preserving the wealth of the Grand Oil Party.

We need Russia's help with the two major threats to Western Civilization: Islamic Extremism and Nuclear Proliferation. And we are screwing around with them in their backyard. It seems that Bush and McCain would rather have three large problems than two smaller ones. Why? You know why? Oil!

They don't care about our safety- they care about their money. And how much is enough? They had business backing Carter's energy independence play 30 years ago. The oil crisis of '73 should have been a lesson learned.

They are ruthless, sick, twisted people with the greediest and worst habits in the world. Out with the lot of them.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone name a single competent thought on government policy that Obama has made to date? This hope and change crap is major BS. All anybody with a brain in their head needs to do is think for a second! Is your life REALLY that bad that your willing to vote for the destruction of your own government/country for a stupid line like hope and change! For those of you in a shtty situation, Obama is not going to change that, so don't be duped into thinking so. McCain is not alot of people's choice, but given the options, there is no choice. Imagine the Obama's representing the Racist United States of America. I'm not a racist and never have been, but i do have an IQ and I know it's a difficult decision to choose thought over feelings. It's like smoking, you know its bad, but you gotta have it anyway. Make the right decision, only you know who you vote for.

Peace Out

Posted by: Dude | August 25, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

even nostrada knows what is gonna happen come november.......mcbush and his rovian induced election machines will steal da election but obama/biden will not do a kerry and let it slide.they will do their due diligence and file for recounts which will show serious repug mashups and eventually a recount backed up by citizen receipts will call in favour of obama/biden.mcbush will retire to which ever one of his multiple homes and america will be elevated once more on da world scene.

Posted by: tj | August 25, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I really love the Clintons and voted for her in the primary. Seeing what she (they) are doing to the party to have a shot at 2012 is just sad. I suppose it makes me wish I would have voted for Barack. My Republican friends always told me how sleazy the Clintons are, I thought they were nuts, but man, I sort of believe it now. I guess personal power greed is what we get in American Government now. So why should any of us be surprised? Just sad, a true, good leader would not do what she is doing.

Posted by: Tbag | August 25, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Hillary,

Take your toys, Bill and his women and go home. It's over. You lost the primary election. GET OVER IT!!!!!

Posted by: Dee | August 25, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Follow Colorado delegate Brian O'Donnell's convention coverage on his blog http://www.2008delegate.com with multiple updates from the floor each day.

Posted by: Matt | August 25, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

james and 'hillary is my man',what exactly do u guys do in da real world???even if u r 'paid for' repug trolls, i still despair as to why u were hired in da first place.if hillary is so experienced and fantastic how come she run up a huge debt in da first place for a mere primary campaign??? especially against an inexperienced obama???come on guys,pls wake up from ur faux news induced comatosis and smell da tulips cos no matter what u chat,ur candidate of experience(hillary)doesnt really care abt u and u r just moaning and groaning cos u have nothing better to do.as i have stated before, nobody should take u guys seriously cos ur all hypocrites blowing hot air.if u cared so much abt hillary why r u not spending ur allowable donation limits to help pay of her debts.i mean come on!!!!if she owes 20 million dollars for example and there r 18 million of u passionate supporters who believe in her bill-induced experience,with ur 18 million cracks in da ceiling,why dont u pay $1.18 each to help pay of her debts?????might da reason b dat u r all actually repug mcbushes who cant afford to pay for her self-induced debts,cos mcrove has taken up all ur trust fund monies???come on america quit being da butt of worldwide jokes and do da right thing.lol.

Posted by: tj | August 25, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama Supporters need to FACE FACTS on what going to happen on election day.
All those so caled democrats and people who say they support Obama will go into the voting booth and say "noway am I really going to vote black guy"
Mcain landslide

Posted by: greg in florida | August 25, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama = oSama
Biden = BiNLAden

ELITIST + EGOTIST = an MT suit and a lot of hot air

Dont vote for this terrorist huggers. Vote for atrue American HERO - John McCain

Mcain in November ; HRC in 2012

P.U.M.A.
Registered Democrat for McCain :)

Posted by: AsBee | August 25, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Democrat and voting for McCain, and I live in Pennsylvania, a swing state.

Obama is just crazy. Great smile, but just crazy!

Thank you!

Posted by: Randy | August 25, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

who's Hillary?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Loser/albatross list: Gary Hart/"where's the beef?"; Walter Mondale/Democrats; Mike Dukakis/in the tank (or furloughs); Al(internet) Gore/$400 charitable giving on income of >$2M; Kerry/phony war wounds and faulty memory; HRC/"I CAN'T possibly lose, now - can I?"; HRC/alternative albatross: WJC; BHO/diapers showing + Ayers + dissembling. Folks, BHO should be up by 20 points. But people are paying attention or losing patience - take your pick,

Posted by: historian | August 25, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

To "Hillary is My Man": You obviously didn't get into Harvard because you simply weren't good enough. Point of fact - to begin, Hillary is a "woman"; not a "man". And, if you're lookng fo rHillary to be your man - you have issues that you need professional help with. Also, you sound like an angry, bitter, close-minded, racist person, that doesn't have the potential to make Harvard proud, or to learn and contribute anyhing positive in their educational community. Take a couple of minutes to read your admin essays over. Simply put, you are not Harvard material - they're just not into you. Eat the facts, and stop blaming others for your own shortcomings.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

there you go again, playing into the "press" plan. this is a "story"? the national enquirer has your sort of gravitas now, you might consider writing for them if this is all you can come up with.

trivial MSM, crazed bloggers, guess we deserve the world we created, just hope that maybe this time we won't be moronic enough as voters to allow anyone with an (R) to be in any position of power, ever again.

Posted by: preAmerikkkan | August 25, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Barrack Hussein had lower SAT scores than mine, but I didn't get into Harvard. Wonder why?

Certainly I couldn't have been kept out for MY RACE and of course that is not at all why he was allowed to steal the DEM nomination.

Democrats for McCain!!! Vote McCain - avenge Hillary!!!

Posted by: Hillary is my man | August 25, 2008 8:16 PM
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Where'd you find his scores? And why would he have needed SAT scores for Law School? I'm sure you meant LSAT, right?

More BS...

Posted by: JosephD | August 25, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

This division was orchestrated by the Republican party. It was a well-planned strategy to divide and conquer the Democrats. Carl Rove hired over 2,000 bloggers and McCain hired more to infiltrate Obama websites posing as his supporters so they could confuse the real Obama supporters with false facts, gossip, character assasination, and to turn his followers against him.
I should know. We had 3 of them on our website or perhaps it was the same person using different names. At first he seemed to be for Obama. Then little by little he snuck in little criticisms. Then he would misreport Obama's policies or something Obama purportedly said, or introduce a lie about his past. The people on my site were very sharp people who, instead of just taking his word for it, always looked for proof. Every time this man's accusations were checked out, we found he was fabricating. So everytime he put out his vitrole, we made a donation to Obama.
The man finally got so mad at us for not playing his game, he left the site.
We discovered that the person who registered the PUMA's was NEVER a Hillary supporter (as pretended) but was registered as a Republican and had donated $500. to McCain. It appeared she was working for him.
The blogger on our site was the person who suggested the NoFica people put their money in an escrow account. After Obama bent over backwards to accomodate these people and they were initially flattered that he took the time from a busy schedule to respond to them and give them a chance to call in with their concerns, this was the man who stirred them up. He wrote one of the nastiest blogs telling these people that Obama was too agressive and too arrogant in his response and how everything was his fault and that he didn't respect them etc., etc., etc. However, it was NoFisa who did not respect Obama. These people (PUMA, NoObama, NoFisa) were taken in by Rove and other Republican operatives. And they are still being taken in. However, when the election is over McCain won't give them the time of day, nor will he support any of their issues.
This blogger was also the man who introduced the false hope that Hillary could still get the nomination. It was done deliberately in order to divide and cause chaos in the Democratic party.
It amazes me that some of these people here express their bewilderment that "obama is using Hillary's policies". I read Obama's policies in the primary. He hasn't changed them. Hillary's and Obamas policies have been 95% the same from the very beginning. That's why it doesn't matter who the President is. We will get the same government because the policies will be the same.
As far as the idea that Hillary is more experienced, the Republican's would have painted her with the same brush of inexperience as they've painted Obama. I agree that McCain is more experienced. Yes, he's more experienced in being a dirty politician who will do anything to feed his ambition to be President, including lying. As far as good judgement goes I find him lacking and Obama superior in every issue. For the short time Obama has been in politics, his accomplishments are amazing. He has done more in the short time he's had than McCain could ever hope to do. These include health care, energy, education, military issues and veterans, justice, working families, workplace protection, the economy, equal pay for women, victim's economic security and safety act, homeland security to name a few and I'm talking about passed legislation. I have 13 pages of his accomplishments in front of me and these are only highlights.
I strongly urge everyone to go to the mybarackobama.com, pull down each of the issues, and also check the fact sheets so you can see what his policies really are, instead of listening to people who are trying to deceive you so you will vote for a candidate who will do you and yours more than economic harm. An informed voter checks out the facts and, especially in this election, does not accept every e-mail or article in print no matter where it comes from or how legal the paper looks that it is written on. This is a dirty election. The rich oil interests, drug interests, corporate interests etc. have a lot at stake. They don't want Obama to change their thirst for greed. The have spent millions and even more to swiftboat him. Don't believe everything you read about this good and decent man. He is for the people, not the lobbyists.

Posted by: Janet | August 25, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Mitt Romney is a big joke. He did NOTHING in Massachusetts and has no experience in anything except running the winter Olympics one year and marrying a rich woman with inherited money ( kind of like John McCain.) Where would these two be without relying on rich wives and their Daddies'? Also - No offense, but can anyone actually warm up to that weird Mormon cult thing that surfaced in Texas earlier this year that stank of incest and suppressed women with 1890's clothes/ hairstyles? ...Interested to hear Mitt's comments - he's remained strangely silent on the issue...

Posted by: MassAppeal | August 25, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

FLASH: DrudgeReport link blamed for invasion of trolls.

Posted by: butters | August 25, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I am an African-American Hillary supporter.

Regarding the comment below about Obama black supporters "your cities will burn" - unfortunatly it is true at least here in Socal. The blacks WILL riot if Obama loses or especially if the election is stolen from him ala Bush/Gore, Bush/Kerry. I know many black folk that will not accept an Obama defeat as anything other than a white lynching by the white power structure.

Posted by: MelM | August 25, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to see Clinton supporters say they would vote for McCain. You do remember that McCain voted to impeach President Clinton?? He voted against S-Chip. He opposed the Equal Pay Act. He said he would appoint SC justices that would overturn Roe. If were president now, we would likely be at war with Russia. Have fun with that.

Posted by: joshers | August 25, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

sequoia:

Here's a REAL LIFE Democrat who was a Hillary supporter but will be voting for McCain now ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=597YG23mAWs

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow!

I can't believe the divisiveness of this banter. It exactly points out what I indicated earlier. Like her or hate her Hillary carried the majority of the votes in the democratic primary. If Obama supporter want to toss 18 million votes out the window then it is clear they will lose the Whitehouse. That appears to be what is happening. Obama supporters need to woo Hillary voters. But instead what I see is venom being spewed at the hard working middle American Democrats, that supported Hillary - by Obama supporters (the SanFran Hollywood/BMWs type left wing of the party.) It really is amazing to watch. This is why the Dems will likely lose the Whitehouse after 8 years of one of the most unpopular presidents this country has ever seen. Truly amazing!

Posted by: Jaymand | August 25, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Republican = Corporate
Democrat = Corporate

Don't kid us that there's a clear choice there. Which party is standing alongside Labor? Which party is funding Peace? Neither of them.

America = Corporate Rule

Posted by: Voting Green | August 25, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm a lifelong republican. My first vote was for Ronald Reagan. I would have no problem whatsoever voting for a John McCain-Hillary Clinton Ticket. I think they both love their country; and they would do what they thought was correct. We must keep the Manchurian Candidate out of the White House. There are powerful forces behind Obama. He is merely the face of the puppet masters who want to do the country much harm.
I would love to see McCain ask Hillary to be his VP.
Nobama-Please

Posted by: Brian | August 25, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Biden be a DEMOCRATIC HERO forever by using your speech to endorse HILLARY who had the majority of the vote. Obama is unelectable. Too many skeletons, associations, and is so inexperienced. Hillary was the PEOPLE's choice and she can WIN us the White House back. Delegates ENDORSE HILLARY! Joe Biden: ENDORSE HILLARY!

Posted by: PUMA 2008 | August 25, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

HRC was VETTED for the primary so it was not necessary to do again. As for Bill, his foundation would be investigated and the fact a fraud charge is pending against him in Nov would come out. No go there.
You cannot give your senate seat to a family member. If someone dies while a senator the wife could step in until the next election.
She cannot release her delegates to anyone, they vote as they see fit.
As for Michelle Obama's backside==HRC has a very W I D E posterior that her jackets cannot hide. Thunder thighs!!
mccain =Twin Cities=Double Speak Express.

Posted by: Katerina Deligiannis | August 25, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

This is why I'm not a whiny Democrat- you people are laughably pathetic, you can't even agree amongst yourselves.

Posted by: Snerbott | August 25, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Get over it Hillary. McCain can have you and your sleazy scumbad husband and your sleazy racist KKK confederate flag toting supporters.

Posted by: ObamaWins | August 25, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

What exactly is 'Conservative' about the Republican party anymore?

I thought Conservatives took a long-term view, were fiscally responsible, managed the country the way a business ought to be - more revenues than expenses and always had a solid plan in place for contingencies.

I thought a Conservative party would determine that when scientists en masse believe Global Warming to be a real, imminent threat to our civilization that they would make the appropriate steps towards insuring our survival - no matter how painful it would be to make this happen.

I also thought a Conservative party would avoid war at all costs if only because a true Conservative does not rush into anything without careful examination of the facts and an intense scrutiny of all potential options with war being the absolute last resort.

Democracy, by its very nature is always in peril. You are watching your country erode from within to a barely recognizable resemblance of itself. Everything that the world holds up as enviable about this country is dissolving in front of our eyes.

To me, there is very, very little about the Republican party that is truly Conservative. Fascist, yes. Conservative, not so much.

Posted by: CFM | August 25, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

ps, hilary you and you cheating husband are losers...

Posted by: kurt | August 25, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

let hilarious have her fun now, but if I were Obama, I'd inform her that this crap can be returned in 2012...

thank you hilary for teaching Barack how to ruin your convention,,,

Posted by: Kurt | August 25, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Barrack Hussein had lower SAT scores than mine, but I didn't get into Harvard. Wonder why?

Certainly I couldn't have been kept out for MY RACE and of course that is not at all why he was allowed to steal the DEM nomination.

Democrats for McCain!!! Vote McCain - avenge Hillary!!!

Posted by: Hillary is my man | August 25, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

The ugliness of Obamabot posts shows how much it must rankle them to finally understand that they NEED HILLARY SUPPORTERS TO WIN. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed. Not only that, the lack of leadership shown by the DNC during this primary has been a huge, eye-opening turn off. Pelosi, Dean and company do not exactly inspire loyalty.

Posted by: Indie now for McCain/Lieberman 08 | August 25, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

ROTFL, Anonymous! Yeah.. she and McCain will pass it off as "bipartanship" - "just a little reaching across the aisle!!" Haha

Posted by: Can't wait | August 25, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

outside the box -- you mean outside of the facts?

It is the Clinton camp who wants the roll call change to acclimation because it has become clear that Sen Clinton will get many less votes during the roll call than she expected - and they do not want to be embarrassed with a low count

Maybe read instead of talk - and you too can know what is actually going on

Posted by: awb75 | August 25, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Hillary had specific, no nonsense ideas for saving this f****ed up country. I can't wait until November when we can finally punish Obama Hussein for his arrogance by voting for McCain. McCain may be a piece of crap, but he is way better than Barrack Hussein, the Muslim.

Democrats for McCain in 08!!! Hillary in 2012!!!

Posted by: Hillary is my man | August 25, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

It is time for McCain to pick a vice and Hillary will do very nicely! Forget Lieberman, Hillary would bring about 1/2 her followers and Mc would loose about 20% of his paople with a net gain and am sure enough to put Mc in office.

Posted by: Bob Howard | August 25, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

pick mitt he's the right on why are all the dems so scared of him? hoping secretly that mccain picks another ill tell you why cause it will be president mitt romney after mccains presidency

Posted by: monkey boss | August 25, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Has there ever in US history been a losing candidate for political office who has made as many demands as Hillary Clinton? "Pay off my debts!" "Make me Vice President!" "Give me center stage at the Convention!" "Give my spouse center stage too!" "Even though I lost in original votes, I want a revote at the Convention!"; I want my own film crew!" And those are the public demands - who knows what she's demanding behind the scenes - (perhaps that her Repub friends get front row seats and be supplied with a bag of rotten tomatoes at the DNC Convention - Hillary: Hi, John! Hi Karl! Hi Condi! Hi "W"! Glad you're here. Sit right next to me...I saved you seats. Let's talk about me being the Repub VP -we can twist it so it works - I'm right with you...And how can I help with your next ad - I thought up a great script - I'll deny involvement of course, but yo guys can deal with that...."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

pick mitt he's the right on why are all the dems so scared of him? hoping secretly that mccain picks another ill tell you why cause it will be mitt romney after mccains presidency

Posted by: monkey boss | August 25, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

So Bush got into Princeton because of his father. How did he get into the Harvard MBA program? How did little barry boy get into Colombia and Harvard? I think its called affirmative action.

Posted by: james | August 25, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Hillary may not want the seat much longer. With her ego, it's hard to go from being the queen, and then the queen in waiting, to being 1 of 100. Hillary being in the Senate wasn't about serving the people of NY, it was about biding her time 'til she got her crown back. And now that ship has sailed. I'm guessing she either goes to Albany or the Supreme Court.

And, yes, Caroline Kennedy would make an excellent Senator. She's smart, she knows what's going on, and most importantly, SHE CARES about people. Really cares- not the fake kind of caring that is a means to an end.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Caroline Kennedy is not qualified to be a Senator.

Hillary will keep her Senate seat for as long as she wants it.

Posted by: Susan | August 25, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

"Any "Democrat" who says she is voting for McCain is LYING. These people are called "Republicans.""

Why does it have to be so labeled? Why can we not vote for the person we feel is best for our country regardless of political ties?

Lance
http://www.AmericaAgainstObama.com

Posted by: Lance Haynie | August 25, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARES IF HER TOP ADVISORS STAY IN TOWN. THEY ARE OUT OF A JOB ANYWAY If we New Yorkers have it our way Hillary Clinton will be out of a job in the next few years. She ran a disgraceful campaign and should be ousted !!!!!

CAROLINE KENNEDY FOR JUNIOR SENATOR FROM NEW YORK!!!!!!

Posted by: Bonnie | August 25, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Bush is STUPID but he got into Yale because his father went there.

Posted by: Susan | August 25, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Hello!! This is about electing the next President of the US - not finding endless ways Democrats throughout the country must contort themselves in the endles quest to sooth Hillary Clinton's ego and her supporters' hurt feelings What strange, small, egotistical world are these people living in? And why are they so emotionally attached? Try 1-800-SHRINK. The DNC asn't the answer - not their job; And, really, in the large scope of things, who cares what Hillary wants? Get a grip...Hillary Clinton lost the Dem pres campaign, as did Edwards, Biden, and how many others who were vying. Yes, she had lots of supporters - but duh..Barack Obama had more. BOTTOM LINE: HE WON - SHE LOST. MORE PEOPLE WANTED BARACK OBAMA THAN HILLARY CLINTON!! End of conversation.

Posted by: FreezePop | August 25, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

And the Republican party is divided too. The Bush people really want McCain to lose so they can run Jeb in 2012. And if McCain takes Romney, as seems likely, the far right wing is going to flip out. Beyond that, hardcore conservatives don't trust McCain at all, they know he's sanctimonious and has no core conservative principles (other than lust for power)- he'll raise taxes (to pay for new wars) the first chance he gets. He's got some old scores to settle with the Soviets who interrogated and tortured him.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

You people who are stoking race relations are barking up the wrong tree.

The corrupt elite always has and always will exploit anyone. Ever hear of the Mann Act? Little Irish (and other) girls were taken into white slavery and prostitution so people could make a buck. Slavery wasn't just a black and white thing, it was a greed thing.

Google: white slavery

It's not ancient history.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

And the MSM/WAPO is tryinig to tell us party unity is the focus??? What a joke!

From the Post...headline read:

"Democrats Stress Unity as Convention Opens"

Perhaps a better headline would read "A divided Democratic Party goes to convention"

This is the way the MSM/WAPO try sway public opinion. Clearly the camps in the democratic party could not be further apart. You have one side the elitist hollywood/BMW crowd and you have the other side - the working middle American democrats. Hillary was clearly winning the working middle American voters. Obamas strength is with the hardcore liberals of the party (the Pelosi/Carol Kennedy liberals)

Don't believe for a second that this party is anything but completely divided. A fact that likely will cost them the Whitehouse in 08. Also a fact you'll never hear below a headline from the MSM/WAPO press.

Posted by: Jaymand | August 25, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama is a nasty lady and she and her terrorist aiding husband are affirmative action candidates. America needs McCain. He is America. The Obamas aren't.

Posted by: McCain 08 | August 25, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well ...
All you "Affirmative Action" pushers (Bill? Hill? Libs everywhere???)

Don't you know by now, this is the only way Obama (both Mr & Mrs) got ANYWHERE??????

So, now, Obama & Co STEAL the nomination from a person who actually MERITS the position??? (wait til they unleash ACORN - those cons/thieves)

The "BLACK guy" trumped the "White WOMAN".

It's Affirmative Action, just at the very top of the food chain!
Careful what ya wish/protest/lobby for!
snicker... ooh, my sides...

Posted by: Terkal Sonoma | August 25, 2008 7:11 PM

This vile posting is so obviously from a Republican troll it doesn't merit serious consideration -- but I just wanted to ask YOU when YOU graduated from Harvard Law School ... I mean, it's only by the color of his skin he got in, right, and you're obviously brilliant so you must have made it on merit, right? And been elected president of the Harvard Law Review to boot, right? And become a constitutional scholar at one of the most conservative, tough law schools in the country, University of Chicago? Oh, man, are you barking up the wrong tree ... and barking is putting it nicely,lol. Oh, and "steal" an election? No, that's Republican territory too ... just go ask Katherine Harris or Georgie boy -- Obama won it fair and square.

Posted by: straight talk my a** | August 25, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

dollars.lol.

Posted by: tj | August 25, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

funny how all these life long democrats have no shame in announcing to the world that they will be voting republican(mcbush).to quote those famous words"shame on you".if you care so much about hillary why dont you start by donating to pay of her debts.there are 18 million of you and approximately 20 million dollars of debt.why dont you put your dollors where your mouths are.

Posted by: tj | August 25, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I supported Clinton but I cannot support Obama. I expressed this with some fellow co-workers who happen to be African-American Obama supporters. I was shocked to hear some of them say that if a racist America does not elect Obama, then "cities will burn." Wow. This election could get ugly.

Posted by: Bill Peace | August 25, 2008 6:35 PM
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If it gets ugly and they riot I hope taxpayers refuse to fund the rebuilding of their communities. Let them live in the hovels they create for themselves. Am I missing something or does it always seem to be blacks that start riots? Don't they realize that their communities suffer because of their actions? Maybe this is the reason tha NRA fights so hard for their rights to own arms? They feel there might come a day where they have to defend the property they worked all their lives for? NObama

Posted by: tiredofit | August 25, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

LONG LIVE THE CLINTONS and the defeated budget deficits incurred because of GHW Bush in 1991.

Lets watch the bots try to fix this one.

can you say FAILURES.

8 years ago before Rezko, Obama couldnt rent a car because his credit card was denied.. now he some kind of messiah..
CAN YOU SAY DESPERATE.

I wont vote. I will not affiliate myself with the likes of either candidate.

Posted by: jobama | August 25, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Kelly in Boston | August 25, 2008 7:17 PM

You "my friend" are no Democrat. Sorry Troll go vote for McCain - but please - be honest.

Obama didn't have to vet Clinton - there is still so much crap out there on her and him that it was pretty obvious that we did not want to relieve the 1990's all over again.

Posted by: totallynext | August 25, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama will lose Democrats in the privacy of the voting both. All the screaming at the cacauses wont count in November.

Hillary 2012 !

Posted by: BIG APPLE DEM | August 25, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Sad to say, I've decided I can't vote for the democratic candidate for POTUS. The party screwed up by picking Obama--He's too inexperienced, too naive, and will be unable to carry the four or five states (think Ohio, West Virginia, Michigan, Florida) that the party needs to win this. Obama screwed up by not picking (or even vetting) Hillary. I'm voting McCain. And so are a lot of others. Next time, my fellow democrats, pick smarter.

Posted by: Kelly in Boston | August 25, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Any "Democrat" who says she is voting for McCain is LYING. These people are called "Republicans."

Even Hillary is voting for Obama. Don't these trolls realize that Democrats are laughing at their desperate games?

Posted by: sequoia | August 25, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

funny how all those 18 million cracks in da ceiling cannot help clear her debts by donating $1.08 to her fund.real loyal cracks.lol.

Posted by: tj | August 25, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

War criminal Rdovan Karadzic, leader of Bosnian Serbs, claims that Richard Holbrook with Bill Clinton gave him imunity against any crime courts. This is the guy that killed 8000 men and boys in less than 3 days and this is who Clinton has been protecting. Now we know why Osama Bin Laden hasn't been caught yet. Is this where Hillary Clinton learned all her dirty politics. Give me a break, she is not able to be even senator with letting criminals walk free and victims to suffer in sadness for justice. I can guarantee you that Obama would never do that, he would hunt down Karadzic and he will hunt down Osama Bin Laden. McCain probably will say that he would talk with president of Yugoslavia to hand over Mr. Karadzic. FYI, Yugoslavia doesn't exist since 1991.

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 25, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well ...
All you "Affirmative Action" pushers (Bill? Hill? Libs everywhere???)

Don't you know by now, this is the only way Obama (both Mr & Mrs) got ANYWHERE??????

So, now, Obama & Co STEAL the nomination from a person who actually MERITS the position??? (wait til they unleash ACORN - those cons/thieves)

The "BLACK guy" trumped the "White WOMAN".

It's Affirmative Action, just at the very top of the food chain!
Careful what ya wish/protest/lobby for!
snicker... ooh, my sides...

Posted by: Terkal Sonoma | August 25, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Democrats buckled under Bush and then expect to run the show. Pelosi, Obama and Reid allowed spying on our phones and computers and therefore should be sent to prison not the White House. Anyone who supports these ego-centric wind bags are traitors to the Consitution.

Posted by: hhkeller | August 25, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Did any of the Hillary fanatics stop to think that Barack did the Clintons a favor by Not vetting them, especially with the questionable donations to the Clinton Library. Grow up for pete's sake. This is not about them it's about US>

Posted by: Dawn | August 25, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

The young democrats that do the grunt work have to be happy about the prospects of an Obama Administration.

No one likes to work 100 hours a week, for mediocre pay, and then be yelled at and treated like shyte. Bill was a nice guy. Obama definitely seems like a nice guy. Hillary....

The chaos, the drama, the tone, the attitude. Sorry, but the Presidency isn't about ego, money and power. It is about humble public service. Or it should be.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I am a black female and once was a supporter of Sen. Clinton but I can no longer identify with her or former Pres. Clinton. She underestimated how formidable her competition was and she lost so what’s the problem? This is poor sportsmanship on the part of the Clinton camp. She lost my support when she didn’t concede at the proper time. That was a total slap in the face to Sen Obama as well as myself as a black person. It was like he didn’t deserve her respect..

Posted by: Rhan | August 25, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

DNC Convention Schedule Leaked

7:00AM - 10:00PM

Convention delegates soil themselves worrying that they will probably lose the most win-able election in history.

Posted by: Bob | August 25, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Don't you worry about blacks supporting Obama, we got his back, whites and blacks, you should worry about your McCain and him backstabinng you and your country, and faking that he doesn't know how many houses he has. You should also worry about Hillary and her Bosnian adventures under sniper fire. That was faking also. Obama so far, all real, no faking. Face one more reality; LOOSING THIS NOMINATION AND ELECTION.

Posted by: BlackSheep | August 25, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! Pelosi Tells Disappointed Clinton Supporters to Avoid 'Victim Politics'

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Conventions/story?id=5650893&page=1

Isn't 'Victim Politics' what the entire Democratic Party is built upon?!

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

GOOD!

This is the DEMOCRATIC convention, and only Democrats should come.

Do these losers think Democrats will miss them? LOL!

Posted by: dAVE | August 25, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama picked Biden since everyone knows Obama doesn't get it on foreign policy. You can't blame him for not picking Hillary. Afterall, well over half of the country can't stand her. But Hillary supporters are right--she is "ready to be President on Day 1". Do you remember Obama saying he would be "Right on Day 1"? Haven't heard that lately since he's shifted ALL of his positions to what Hillary was standing on. Obama has NO experience--and more than half the time he's been in the Senate (a first termer no less), he's been running for President. Doesn't matter if you are black, white, dem, or repub, or independent. If you vote for Obama you are voting for inexperience and waffling. Combined, Obama and Biden have less then 5 years working in the private sector. Biden is Washington insider who has been in the Senate longer than McCain. Twice Biden was rejected for President because voters don't like his positions and direction. So now you have O-Bama with no experience putting a guy on his ticket who was twice rejected by voters. So on the O-Biden ticket, you have inexperience, waffling on positions, with eventual policies taking America in the wrong direction. Vote OBiden and you are mistaken.

Posted by: Caller of the "Obiden" Ticket | August 25, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Do Hillary supporters know she could not be vetted because of her husbands dealings and income? The Clintons could not reveal their financials and pass. Everyone knows this so why don't the hold-outs get informed?

Posted by: Genius | August 25, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

WAHT A HEADLINE!!!!!!

"Clinton Advisers Skipping Obama Speech"

What else they should do after they "ADVISED" her to do wrong things. Duh!!! I am sure Obama doesn't need her advisers to advise her to say something stupid again. Just one great headline

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 25, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

JackA$$: Thanks JN...

Next time just admit you were wrong and shut the hell up.

You apparently have the IQ of a dead hooker and thus I have nothing more to say to you.

Speaking to braindead losers is, well....ABOVE MY PAYGRADE =)

OBAMA/BIDEN 08...LIKE IT OR NOT....SWEETIES ;-)

Posted by: JN | August 25, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't want an angry black female impersonator as First Lady.

Michelle...the face and attitude that launched a thousand drag queens come Halloween.

Posted by: gn | August 25, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

How childish, how petty. Is this the kind of leadership Hillary would have shown as President? An inability to control her own people, egos out of control, grudges... The Clinton legacy becomes more shredded as the days go by. These people are showing themselves to be traitors to the party. Their contempt and lack of support for the party's nominee is nothing short of clear support for McCain.

Posted by: DogBitez | August 25, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

I start out by thinking how small of the Clinton camp but have to consider the possibility that the Obama camp did nothing to bring the two camps together outside of Hilary and Bill. Who knows but it seems like a waste of talent not to try to sway the Clinton supporters.

Posted by: clm | August 25, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

What I want to know is this. If the abortion thing is as Obama said "above my pay grade" what else is above his pay grade? How about the whole darned thing. The whole job of POTUS is well above his pay grade. And another thing. If Joe Who is supposed to bring experience, gavitas, foreign policy chops etc. to the ticket, haven't you all got it up side down? Shouldn't we be electing Joe Who as President and vetting Barry for VEEP? I mean it doesn't make sence to elect Obama and then have to elect someone else to actually do the job. Obamabots!!! Any of this getting thru?

Posted by: Kateliz | August 25, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks JN, I think you just enlightened more of us to the slave mentality of Obama supporters. Thank God "Barry" will now have Joe Biden to openly control him, instead of doing it from the background. I'd hate to think he would have to satisfy bigots like you!

Posted by: jack | August 25, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

'Senator Clinton's top advisors should leave since they are the reason she lost.'

Amen Beverly. Amen.

Posted by: kimbers | August 25, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Here are are at the DNC convention, Wolf Blitzer is on CNN with other talking heads annointing themselves, and they are interviewing Hillary supporters ON THE FLOOR saying they are there for Hillary and that Hillary SAYS she supports Obama, but doesn't really--and he will follow suit by voting for someone else in the Fall. So we have put these rivals together are are quite frankly, at eachother's throats but have to play nice. This is going to come off as disingenuous and watchers will not be fooled. This convention is just giving McCain fodder and Obama supporters much more to worry about.

Posted by: JC Red | August 25, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

At first I supported Hillary, but over the course of the campaign I switched to Obama because he was better organized and appealed to me more and more. Am I a traitor? No? Is the Black population in America traitors for not supporting Clinton? No. Are the Clinton supporters who are voting for McCain traitors? No. Nobody owes anyone anything in life. You earn and lose things, that is just life. Don't support somebody out of spite. Throughout history, too many people have died for the right to vote. I am in no position tell anyone who to vote for, but, your vote is very important. Don't vote for somebody because they're a democrat or your favorite politician lost the election. The America of today isn't the America that the Clinton Administration left it in. If you are a democrat... no matter how bitter you feel... don't vote for McCain out of spite to Obama. Unless you are wealthy and McCain's policies will benefit you and your loved ones, don't vote for McCain in the hopes of Hillary will be around in 2012. A lot of Gore fans thought he would be around in 2004.. and look what happened. You only get 1 vote... make it count.

Posted by: Hillary Supporter NYC | August 25, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I supported Clinton but I cannot support Obama. I expressed this with some fellow co-workers who happen to be African-American Obama supporters. I was shocked to hear some of them say that if a racist America does not elect Obama, then "cities will burn." Wow. This election could get ugly.

Posted by: Bill Peace | August 25, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Re: The American people simply need to listen to you and I can assure you it would be a landside victory for McCain.

Buy two commas.

Isn't grammar taught anymore?

Posted by: Kees | August 25, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

JACK...or should I say JackA$$.

A congressman in Tennessee just won a landslide victory over a black owman who was race baiting and black voters rejected her for the white guy.

Unlike whites blacks cant be fooled into voting based on race we are so used toi being villified for our skin color so when we see it done to others we know what it is.

Clinton had the majority black of black support until big mouth Bill came to play and she started talking all this "hard working white Americans" crap. See you conveniantly forget that.

Also blacks are only 14 % of the population. 18.3 million people voted for senator Obama. The vast majority were white. Another conveniantly missed fact by you.

Go back to screwing your sister and putting another confederate flag sticker on your pickup truck and leave us civilized people alone.

Posted by: JN | August 25, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton's top advisors should leave since they are the reason she lost.

Posted by: Beverly | August 25, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse


It's high time for Hillary Clinton to rest her case in a dignified manner.
I think Clintons believe they own Democratic Party and their ego is so high they wouldn't mind damaging the party. They seem to be least bothered about the fate of this country but themselves.
I would think all this drama is for forcing somebody to pay her some $30 million debt.

Nobody is doing a favor by electing Obama but helping themselves and their country.

Posted by: observer | August 25, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Odd that Obama has taken all of Hillary's positions AFTER he forced her out of the race. Then they invite Bill to speak and tell him he's got to say Obama will be a better Commander in Chief than Obama will. Why does this really hurt Bill? He know's it's not true. But in the end, the Clinton's and Obama's deserve eachother. Words say unity, body language and eyes of all the Clinton supporters say "it should have someone else". The dems will fail trying to convince folks that McCain will be another Bush administration. It will backfire because voters are smarter than that, and they will feel lied to by the democrats.

Posted by: Bill V | August 25, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Talk about racism, Obama would not even be a footnote in this election if he were white. The ONLY reason he beat Hillary is because he is black and most blacks will not look beyond the color of his skin to the content of his character (sound familiar?).

Posted by: jack | August 25, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

What Proves that hillary doesn't have the dedicated supporters that claim to be on these blogs and they are repubs faking is the fact that they didn't pay off her debt yet.

Posted by: Dippa | August 25, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

If you people on this blog are an example of Obama supporters then the country should be very concerned about Obama winning the presidency. The level of hate is absolutly scarry. The American people simply need to listen to you and I can assure you it would be a landside victory for McCain.

Posted by: joe | August 25, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

thanks, bohstedt. breezing through the rhetoric of 'we need to fix all these things' on obama's page, I feel much more enlightened. As usual, the message I find is 'look at our vision that we will carry with us as we tackles these problems' rather than 'this is what we're initially looking to do exactly, what do you think about this plan america?'. hooray for politicians. political fetishists, have back at your candidates. peace out.

Posted by: flux | August 25, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I am registered GOP. So why would I want to vote for Obama?
1. I want to see my captial gains taxes doubled. I make about 100K per year, but we need to help those who refuse to work.
2. I want to see my employer and all other ones put of out business by higher taxes.
3. I love good war movies with suspense. With an Obama Presidency, we'll have all the same national security issues but we'll on a level playing field with our enemies since Obama wants to disarm our nuke arsenal, scrap current missile defense progress, and apologize to NATO countries that we bailed out 60 years ago (some of them twice).
4. Obama has clear plan to control our population explanation. He refuses to stand against late term abortion (he says he's against it but has not backed law changes), particularly refusing to stand up for infants right to life.
5. I love a good mystery. You never know where Obama is going to come down on an issue. This makes every day exiting.

If I were to vote for McCain, I'd probably have to worry about the future since he'd only ensure America stays secure. This would mean I'd have to take control of my life and plan ahead, and not have the government do it all for me as Obama wants.

Posted by: Replublicans for Obama 199 | August 25, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:22 PM

To all supporters of Senator Clinton.
You need medical attention and want to make an appointment with your doctor. She's not available.Now a rational person, interested in her own well being, sees another doctor(just as good) in the same practice. What you are thinking of doing(voting for Senator McCain) is the equivalent of going to a vet.Remember, your biology is very different.Don't harm yourself.For your children's sake too.


More Obama scare tactics. This is the change I believed would happen. What a joke.

Posted by: Adrian | August 25, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Bill twice. I supported Hillary early until I saw how dysfunctional her campaign was. She deliberately continued the campaign for a couple of months AFTER SHE HAD ALREADY LOST, spending herself into a massive debt, not to empower women, but to rip down Obama and try to make it impossible for him to win. She may well have achieved that nasty, selfish goal. Nobody in the Obama camp, the Clinton camp or the McCain camp seriously believes she is in this for anyone but herself in 2012. This "support" for Obama is fake, and everyone knows it. The Clintons are ruthless and vicious, just like every other political machine. So he is supposed to make himself look weak and pathetic with a "Oh, please, Hillary - I can't do it without you?" Don't be silly. She doesn't want VP - she never did.

Posted by: Former Clinton Supporter | August 25, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Some of you are racist, you dirty MFs. Why would you not like somebody if you do not know them personally. I am really trying to determine whether you guys are really practising what you preach. Another thought, are all Republicans christians, and if so, don't they read their BIBLES?? Preach LOVE not HATE!!! You people make me sick!!!!

Posted by: CHIP | August 25, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Sorry

Clinton's failure of leadership here has eliminated her chances at the presidency. It may well doom her senate seat.

And I was one of her supporters. No more

Posted by: Betsy P | August 25, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

An earlier poster wrote: "Obama won. Time for pissy, whiney, spoiled, I'll-take-my-toys-and-go-home Clinton accolyte/worshippers to get over it.


I think that is good advice. Time to forget this election and wait for Hillary in 2012. Let the Obama worshipers carry the day just the above poster suggests.

Posted by: mistermcfrugal | August 25, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"My Friends, did I tell you I was a P.O.W. for five and a half years? Elect me your president."

Posted by: northman | August 25, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

dopera2004:

What what of "NOT ENOUGH EXPERIENCE" are you having trouble with?

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

TV, youve got a point. I thought the racist days were over, until every so often I hear one of the people youve named on TV talking about racist america. coming from all over the place, I really dont see that many racist people around. I dont think anyone cares that much, except for people who want to be loud, etc.

Posted by: t | August 25, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary lost three thousand constituents in 911, and could not be expected to vote against it.

HUH???

Posted by: TV | August 25, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

In some jaded sick way, there are some Hillary supporters (whom I suspect have very strong Republican leanings) who would like to literally 'bomb' the convention. This is so sad!

Instead of stating why we should vote McCain, because their guy is dunce and lacklustre, they think that to destroy the Democrat convention would serve their purpose.

So much ignorance - no wonder we're the laughing stock of the world ... we have a great candidate, but we seek to destroy him rather than accept the gift because he doesn't come wrapped in our 'designer' paper!

And we consider ourselves first world?

Posted by: dopera2004 | August 25, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons are far better sports and party loyalists than I would have been under these circumstances.

TheObama campaign's attacks on Hillary for supporting the war was virtualy a media supported hoaxafter. Hillary lost three thousand constituents in 911, and could not be expected to vote against it. And especially considering Obama did not mention the Iraq War in his 2004 convention speech and has voted to fund it since he's been in the US Senate.

And for the Obama campaign to threaten demonstrations and boycotts if Hillary didn't pull out of the race when Obama was 500 delegates short of a majority was pure intimidation, shakedown tactics like Jesse Jackson uses.

No, Obama does not deserve to have the active support of the Clintons, nor to be president.

Posted by: RPhillips | August 25, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

What does Obama stand for?
How much do you care?
Enough to click on this link and read a couple of pages?
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
---
He has detailed positions on dozens of issues -- he just refuses to reduce complex problems (real world) to bumper stickers that bloggers and talk-radio need (since they don't quite touch the ground).

Read a couple and come back - but don't expect easy answers for tough problems, OK?

Posted by: bohstedt | August 25, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

back at you Mahoff, anyone who votes just because someone is 'R' or 'D' is an idiot. in my opinion. and still not racist or anti-idiot.

Posted by: t | August 25, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

"Everyone of the comments I've read smacks of racism, whether spoken out loud or hidden - the messages are clear.
How can you live with yourselves, you bigoted, out of touch and biased people".


Really? Most of what is written here has nothing to do with race. It has to do with whether a man is competent to do a job or not. The two most rascist people of my generation is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton because they incite racism and foist a "woe is me attitude" on the Black man. Bill Cosby is the antithesis of these two bozos...he tells it like it is...it's time to get yourselves up, get over the injustices and move on. I'm afraid that Mr Obama is going to be Jackson/Sharpton/NAACP puppet cause honestly... I don't think he can think for himself. why else would he have picked Biden for a running mate?

Posted by: TV | August 25, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The significant protest will not come during the Democratic Convention, but rather the significant protest will come in early November when those Clinton supporters of us who were spurned and lied to by Barrack will close the curtain, and in one brief moment bring the swift fury of revenge to Senator Obama. November 5th will leave no uncertainty in terms of which of them, Hillary or Barrack, will make history in 4 years. With Barack as a mere footnote to history, Hillary will be able to say “I TOLD YOU SO!”
Hillary Clinton For President in 2012.

Posted by: GeraldD | August 25, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Yo "t": In my opinion, anybody who votes for a democrat is an idiot.

Posted by: The Big Mahoff | August 25, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

About all these JFK comparisons. JFK was, without question, an incredibly handsome, articulate, inspiring man. he served his country in the navy in WW2, acting heroically to save many members of his PT boat from drowning when they were rammed by a japanese ship. As a politician, however, it's important to remember that the only reason JFK beat Dick Nixon in '60 is because chicago, and subsequently the state of illinois was handed to him by the crooked daley machine there. It was a VERY close election, the closest in history, until 2000 of course. And aside from standing fast during the Cuban Missile Crisis, his presidency was not one of major legislative accomplishments. In fact, it wasn't until LBJ used Kennedy's memory in 1964 and 65to ram the civil rights/voting rights acts that any meaningful legislation was passed. these two men are very much alike in that they are magnetic, young, attractive and articulate. but Obama suffers from the same lack of down-in-the-dirt political experience as Kennedy, and that LBJ was so masterful at. MY point is that for all the "change" obama keeps talking about, i hope he has a better plan than Kennedy did for actually getting it done.

Posted by: Matt | August 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I heard Obama's acceptance speech was written in record time. It is comprised of one word. Present!

Posted by: Steve Lominac | August 25, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't necessarily say racism is what these comments are about - some people don't like him. It's a fact. And they have every right to say that. Just as much as I could say anyone who voted for Bush a second time is an idiot. That doesn't mean I hate the not so competent people in this country.

Posted by: t | August 25, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Everyone of the comments I've read smacks of racism, whether spoken out loud or hidden - the messages are clear.
How can you live with yourselves, you bigoted, out of touch and biased people.

Posted by: hanschkeb@aol.com | August 25, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

ON TODAY'S RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW HE SAID IT LOOKS LIKE MISCHELL OBAMA COULD BE PREGNANT AND THAT SHE WOULD ANNOUNCE IT IN HER SPEECH FOR OBAMA TO GIVE HIM A BOOST, I THINK RUSH HAS MADE A MISTAKE AND LOOKED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION HE HAS MISTAKEN HER BACK SIDE FOR HER TUMMY.

Posted by: MARY | August 25, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Our first black President will be Tiger Woods.

Posted by: PdeV. | August 25, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama won. Time for pissy, whiney, spoiled, I'll-take-my-toys-and-go-home Clinton accolyte/worshippers to get over it.

Posted by: Jim in TX | August 25, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

After what Bush has done to America, I am one Republican who plans to vote for Obama. The people on here who are claiming to be Clinton supporters for McCain are just flat out lying. I have a lot of Republican friends who post numerous times to many blogs changing their names and pretending to be angry democrats. The country needs change and I plan to vote for it.

Posted by: Deep in the Heart of Texas | August 25, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

and yes Conservative Dem in KY, IF he would have checked his ego at the door and put Hilary on the ticket, it would have cemented his win, and today's gallup poll would have shown the 15 point bump.

Maybe McCain will talk her into being the VP...oh what fun that would be!!! :)

Posted by: jpnc | August 25, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I just got back from getting a tire for my car. Repeatedly they wouldnt let me go without several attempts at selling me a car change regardless if I could afford it, wanted it, or it didn't address what I thought was the problem, the flat useless tire.

This is what Obama and his 'you must be racist if you don't support this ambiguous change president contender' supporters make me feel like. I really don't care if he's black, red, blue, or purple. If the guy can't straight tell me what he stands for other than 'change'... well duh Barbie, obviously we need change. Economy is horrible, debt and military spending out of control, and not making clear efforts to patch things up, and stop 'hoping for the best'. I really dont ever see any candidates with a 'More of the Same' slogan on their bus. Obviously they're all for 'change'.

What irks me is when any politician tries to 'relate' to a demographic. Does no one read the news and sees that they say the same thing to completely different demographics?

This country doesnt need to put false hope that a miracle man is going to come in and fix their economy, get the troops home, fix the world, or mow their grass. They just need a competent person outside of at least most interest groups with a competent cabinet, and a strong desire to work with congress to begin tackling the major issues at hand, till it's fixed.

Hillary you lost - but do like Bill did and start a private foundation to work with Bush Sr around the world. Or, fix some problems at home, you don't have to be president to do so. Obama - call off your supporters and just concentrate on what your plans and agenda is. And McCain - do the same. Give people a chance to decide between plans of action rather than personalities. Like any of the public will see you every day to judge that after elected.

Posted by: flux | August 25, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

This is about as bad as the 911 truth movement. It probably does not hurt that a high percentage of the so-called PUMA and No Deal movement and 911 truth moment share the same base.

I really don't blame them. I guess when you have little options left, you simply become delusional in order to keep your sense of reality consistent with what you believed.

Posted by: Jeff | August 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

"I understand that Obama has very, very little african blood. It seems his blood line is more arabic."

Posted by: Phyllis Scroggs

And you offer what evidence? And you say this for what reason? I mean, I understand you have the blood of a thousand imbeciles in you.

Posted by: edwcorey | August 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton had it right last year..this entire obama thing is a JOKE.....He is manifestly un-qualified to be POTUS and all the hooplah won't make him so.

The poor guy I feel sorry for is the one who has to give a speech Wed night about how bambi is more qualified to be CinC than Mccain....He'll get a hernia trying to lift McCain's resume' for comparison while bambi's is so thin you can read through it...anyone who thinks that this clown is ready to be POTUS is more delusional than he is.

We live in dangerous times folks, this guy will get you killed, he is that stupid.

Posted by: Seawolf | August 25, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

On Sunday, January 27, 2008, Carolyn Kennedy announced in a New York Times op-ed piece entitled, "A President Like My Father", that she would endorse Barack Obama in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. Her concluding lines were: "I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans."

Sorry you don't remember your dad all that well Carolyn...Obama is no John F Kennedy

Posted by: TV | August 25, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Any Obummer supporter that thinks the Hillary supporters are Repugs in desguise, or that Hillary supporters are dumb..etc..etc.. (The usual Obummer supporter hate speak) needs to go back and check out history. 1968, 1972 elections. Then they will see that the Dem Party split before and have never recovered. This is why we have such problems with the ultra-leftist part of the party. They put in crazy stuff on the party plank and chase off all the moderate (centrists).

Posted by: Kuilor | August 25, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

"

Funny how all the white racists people keep complaining about an "angry black man and woman" Just take yourselves to the back woods where your cousin, I mean wife is waiting for you along with your in-bred children.

People don't forget that this country was stolen from the Native Americans!! White people weren't here before then...so take your racist views and go back to where you came from!

Posted by: anonymous in CA | August 25, 2008 5:27 PM "

SOOOO, YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT RACIST AND PREJUDICED COMMENTS, WITH YOUR OWN RACIST AND PREJUDICED COMMENTS?

You're right about the Native Americans, and if anyone had the right to be bitter, racist, demand reparations, it's them, but they don't, instead we get the likes of Michelle Obama, Farrakhan, Jackson, who think they're owed or entitled to something. Read Michelle's Princeton papers, she spews out her hatred, and bias herself, nobody is making it up

Posted by: jpnc | August 25, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the panic vote for people who are suffering an anxiety attack or need placebo pills to Cure themselves.

Posted by: John C, Chicago | August 25, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I understand that Obama has very, very little african blood. It seems his blood line is more arabic.

Posted by: Phyllis Scroggs | August 25, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Marilyn

Go to factcheck.org if you want to see Obama's birth certificate, new photos and and a lengthy report on the birth certificate that shows he was born in Hawaii. They did really something really weird...they actually requested to see it, for real...and the kicker? They actually did, thoroughly inspected it and posted their own photos. Also includes the birth announcement put in the paper from his grandparents in 1961. The last being found by a Clinton supporter who was actually trying to dig up dirt and found more proof instead. If you're going to sling the mud at least check your facts first.

Fakes? Did you personally hold them in your hands? Are you familiar with how Hawaiian birth certificates look? Do you work in a crime lab? Do you have some other expert qualifications I should know about?

And for all of you posting actual racist comments but signing anonymous...spoken like true ignorant, cowards.

Posted by: sha | August 25, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I have to say I was a whole heartedly strong supporter of Mrs Clinton(still am). I have never in my life voted for a republican(37yo). I was hoping beyond hope that Obama would really try to unify the party and pick Clinton as VP. This would have cemented his victory. I blame michelle Obama for him not chosing her. She actually has most likely cost her husband the election. I fear for the first time I will be voting repulican. All the Obama supporters keep saying "if he doesn't win now you can forget Hillary in 20012". That really is the way to sway us all over to you side. What would make us want to vote for him. He had the opportunity to show her some respect and do what was best for the party and pick her. I am by no means a mathmetician but that would have gotten 36 million voters excited. I mean you have the Obama supporters who are such fanatics that they would vote for him no matter what. Then you have the Clinton supporters who would have settled for at least the acknowledgment of what she brings to the table. I think Obama in his misguided arrogance and "cocky" eltitism who thinks he has this in the bag has a rude awakening coming. He has no credentials whatsoever to speak of. He is a charismatic individual who speaks in circles and never really says or does anything of substance. It is all about taking the next step to see how far he can go. No real goals are ever accomplished. No problems are solved. He had a real chance to make history. He blew it. The Democratic party is fractured and falling apart. The wounds may never heal. Obama/Clinton would have been unbeatable. Biden has a very similar record to Clinton. What reasons other than his arrogance, michelle, and their pure hatred and spite toward the Clintons would he pick Biden. Say it with me C O M P R O M I S E. His advisors really gave the wrong advice this time. After this weekend and his VP pick I cannot imagine the circumstances that would compel me vote for Obama. Mccain would not be my first choice....but my first choice is not on the ticket. Looks like I will be voting repulican for the first time.....ever.

McCain 08

Posted by: conservative dem in Ky. | August 25, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous poster is a coward, using his moniker describes his cowardice. It is a Freudian thing. Tell your real name, coward. If you do, I will tell you where to have an encounter.

Posted by: j.moreno | August 25, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARES IF HER TOP ADVISORS STAY IN TOWN. THEY ARE OUT OF A JOB ANYWAY If we New Yorkers have it our way Hillary Clinton will be out of a job in the next few years. She ran a disgraceful campaign and should be ousted !!!!!

CAROLINE KENNEDY FOR JUNIOR SENATOR FROM NEW YORK!!!!!!

Posted by: Bommie | August 25, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARES IF HER TOP ADVISORS STAY IN TOWN. THEY ARE OUT OF A JOB ANYWAY If we New Yorkers have it our way Hillary Clinton will be out of a job in the next few years. She ran a disgraceful campaign and should be ousted !!!!!

CAROLINE KENNEDY FOR JUNIOR SENATOR FROM NEW YORK!!!!!!

Posted by: Bonnie | August 25, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama
“Sorry... I forgot you can never use his middle name!”

Never forget 9-11

Posted by: Osama Obama | August 25, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

if Hilary tried to deny the nomination and force a real vote, you would see the mics, lights cut off and a break to a commercial, just like Pelosi did to the Republicans on the House floor a couple weeks ago. They're going to control it, and stifle any dissention or opposition (sounds like Russia)

Posted by: jpnc | August 25, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

These are my reasons for NOT voting for Obama though being a Moderate Democrat who supported Hillary:
1: He has NO, repeat, No experience in any government field that would affect us.
2. He has run a great show as a candidate but never made any specific promise that could not be altered later on.
3. He "would have voted against the Iraq war" but that was before he joined the Senate. Thereafter, he voted for all the financial bills to support the war.
4. Biden, voted for the war And voted for the Surge! SO DID OBAMA!
5. His dealings with Rezko in Chicago? Too dirty. Shows he knows how to use the system to his advantage.
6. Obama as Comander in Chief of US Forces? I shudder, just thinking of the Geogia situation.
7. His background as a student was in Marxism. See his own bio.
8. A wife who hated America and white people! Tell me if that does not influence the husband who may be a patsy. Who knows?
9.CHANGE is a very good political mantra. Change to what? He does not even know much at all about Washington and much less about the World at large. What a joke!
10. Money! Millions of dollars are flowing into his coffers. From whom? The small donors? Give me a break.

This man is a snake oil salesman who has demonstrated his ignorance by taking Biden as his mentor. And you are going to vote for this guy?
Hillary did not need any of this! She was capable of handling not only the domestic affairs but also the foreign ones because she had a great deal of respect in the world!! Idoits!!!

Posted by: Voiltaire | August 25, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama
“Sorry... I forgot you can never use his middle name!”

Never forget 9-11

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

WOW....Kennedy,Carter,Michelle Obama.....
good thing Marx and Lenin are dead....

Posted by: mccain08 | August 25, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

as a an un-typical white person, I don't have a gun to cling to, but I have a pen (or keyboard in today's world)

I never thought I'd see the day where a Clinton is a better choice, and I pray that Hilary says *#$% You to the Democratic party, goes independent, and runs, because even as a life-long republican, I'd vote for her just for having the moxy to stand up for herself. She was hosed by the media, and her own party, and I'm stunned, and ashamed at all of the Obama maniacs, that are blindly following someone that they know little about, has a resume thinner than one of the Olson twins, has no depth of character, as he's already shown his Chigago politics, and I question his character with whom he's surrounded himself around and the bitter wife he has. Have these Obama supporters READ her Princeton Thesis? Have they truly researched the issues? Do they understand Socialism to know it when they see it? Do they not see the Biden selection for what it is? It ISN'T change if you're bringing n someone who's been in the senate since 1972. You're in love with a speech that is full of hope, but empty in content, and accepting it out of laziness or a jaded viewpoint. When talking of evil, he dings America

They're counting on people to be lazy and uneducated on the issues. God help us

Posted by: jpnc | August 25, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Why are Democrats such sore losers? They can't get over the fact that they may have lost...This is what we are teaching kids in school today "that we are all winners; there are no losers". Hogwash! If that is to be true than we need to do away with our democracy as we know it and institute hardcore socialism once and for all...then everyone is equal (of course, tell that to Stalin).

Posted by: TV | August 25, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Funny how all the white racists people keep complaining about an "angry black man and woman" Just take yourselves to the back woods where your cousin, I mean wife is waiting for you along with your in-bred children.

People don't forget that this country was stolen from the Native Americans!! White people weren't here before then...so take your racist views and go back to where you came from!

Posted by: anonymous in CA | August 25, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

There's a whole lot of people here masquerading latent racism as Hillary loyalism.

Posted by: Steve D. | August 25, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I have to say that the control that the Obama folks are trying to exert over the party reminds me of the Bejing Olympics, with the "party government" all but shutting down all free thinking people, but also making the tyranny look so pretty. :-) I applaud Hillary for NOT letting her and her constituency be bullied by a bunch of 35 year old punks with Blackberrys. I for one saw what those punks did to Bill, Charlie Gipson, George S. Geraldine F., Jesse J, Hillary, and all the others that they threw under the bus by calling racist. As a matter of fact, they also did it to Joe Biden last year. But then needed him now 'cause he looks like all the folks that are on the dollar bills. What a freak show the Obama camp is.

Posted by: swoosie | August 25, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I liked Senator McCain when he running against Bush, and I still like him. I would have preferred Hillary. I don't like Obama, his Movement is too cultist for me it reminds me of Jim Jones. I don't know what he believes and right now I really don't care. What was the factor that really pushed me to John McCain side was Saddleback forum

Posted by: CRMcNeal | August 25, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Why do the majority of black men leave their families is it genetic? Or is there a theory the white society caused it? seriously

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

To all supporters of Senator Clinton.
You need medical attention and want to make an appointment with your doctor. She's not available.Now a rational person, interested in her own well being, sees another doctor(just as good) in the same practice. What you are thinking of doing(voting for Senator McCain) is the equivalent of going to a vet.Remember, your biology is very different.Don't harm yourself.For your children's sake too.

Posted by: Omarmal | August 25, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

We can't afford Obama and his racist friends into the White House. Rev J. Wright is a 20 year racist friend of Osama

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

If not for a American mother, Obama would be living next door to his brother! So let's talk about how bad and how mean we are to the less fortunate in this country.

Posted by: Mac | August 25, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Democrat Convention Schedule

1. Promise people stuff paid for with other people's money, using power of state to steal it.

2. Repeat number 1 in 5,000 different ways.

3. Adoringly fondle statue of Karl Marx.

4. Pray to Che Guevara; under no circumstances mention the people he murdered.

5. Speeches by Bill Ayers (admitted terrorist) and Rev. Wright (racist, America-hater, separatist) to be postponed until after election.

6. Whip ignorant crowd into a frenzy against the "evil rich" (i.e., the people who employ most of them) while ignoring that the Democrat bigwhigs include the super-wealthy such as manslaughtering Ted Kennedy, Comrade Soros, the Hollywood airheads, etc.

7. Keep gigantic nut-fringe under wraps until after election (pacifists, 911 conspiracy nuts, anti-semites paranoid about the "Zionist" lobby, Cindy Sheehan, Ed Asner, Castro-philes, etc.)

8. Pretend to be moderate while concealing belief that government should control entire economy.

9. Try hard not to address each other as "Comrade" even though your heart craves to do so.

Posted by: Ted | August 25, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton was the most experienced, most prepared candidate in the Democratic primary.

Unless, of course, you count Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich.

But they don't count, for some reason or another, right?

MCCAIN 08!

Posted by: Janet | August 25, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain experience for President? Has he been a CEO? or Governor of any State? or maybe President of his Country of origin, Republic of Panama in Central America?
He has been sucking the teats of the Federal Budget for many years, Mitt Romney said so, he has not directed any business but earn wages paid by US taxpayers all his miserable life. What a hero. Beer distribution is his life support.

Posted by: j.moreno | August 25, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I heard McCain might decorate the house with mothballs and BenGay. NO!!!!!

The level of discourse in this country is truly terrifying. Bitter people, bitter...bitter.. bitter. Yes, the black guys is smarter than YOU.

Posted by: CR | August 25, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Bill Maher said it best..."we're too dumb to be governed". Politicians are a reflection of the public. The public would rather have sound bytes than thoughtful discussions. The smartest americans have no shot at politics because the american public has no patience for intelligent discussions. That' why dumb guys like mccain can make it this far, using their POW status as the answer to every question. It has recently become his campaign's answer for how many houses he owns..."mccain lived 1 house for 5 years, in vietnam".....really?....so vote dumb, vote mccain, don't complain when things get worse for you, and the reach continue to reap the benefits.

Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama is 8-12 years too early, America is still too racist for him to get elected and if Michelle was lighter skinned she would be better received - it's the truth...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Great job 3/4 of the people on here, you've made me realize I don't really care who you all elect as leader of country of belligerent, ignorant, and egoist. It's really no wonder there is so much voter apathy, most people are talking about issues that are mostly irrelevant. Maybe it doesnt matter who gets elected at all, with people not really 'getting' the overall picture of things right now.

Posted by: flux | August 25, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't want an angry racist black women as first lady

Posted by: King Lear | August 25, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I get a chuckle out of all the Nobama groupie gutter rats who say that we, HRC supporters, should just shut up.

Reminds of their empty suit hero's campaign. From mid-April, as soon as he lost TX and OH, the guy, through his surrogates and media pimps, started drumming up that HRC should drop out. Pimps like Kristoff at NYT, and Dodd onthe US Senate were all part of this shameless campaign.

SO, of course the groupies take a page out of their hero's tactics, and are asking the HRC supporters to not post here.

Perhaps these pondscum should start their own country where only their voices would be heard.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

www.muslimsforobama08.com

says it all

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama picked a V.P. candidate who looks "just like all those people on the dollar bill."

Posted by: Rabashk | August 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I love my Country, which is why I will vote
for McCain.

Posted by: Steve | August 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Someone suggested that they would NEVER vote for the Republicans because they sent their sibling to war in response to "falsified threats of WMD."

I guess you'll be voting for Ralph Nader? Read up on what your idiotic Vice Presidential Candidate (who said he'd be "honored" to run with McCain) said before the Iraq war. He voted for the war and suggested that Saddaam Hussein MUST be taken out because of his WMDs.

Posted by: Bill | August 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

The Clinton supporters know that if Obamanothing wins, Clinton is done for in
2012. He will win a second term and she is finished. Or should I say she and her dousebag husband are both finished.

Posted by: Cleo | August 25, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Man, the bigots are running wild today..

Posted by: King Lear | August 25, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I heard michelle wants to paint the white house black and decorate it with african art. no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I don't want an angry racist black women as first lady.

Posted by: Steve | August 25, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I have to chuckle at Democrats who think their leaders can lower food and oil prices. Ask them how their ethanol requirements have lowered the price of oil and food around the world, for instance, and you'll see that old deer-in-the-headlights glaze like rich grandmother Nancy Pelosi. Because of the American Democrat Congress, people are starving in third-world countries due to high grain and fuel prices.

Posted by: Bromf | August 25, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama
“Sorry... I forgot you can never use his middle name!”

Posted by: 9-11 | August 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Godspeed to Barack Obama and Joe Biden!

No matter how you cut it, no matter what their faults may be, Obama and Biden are the country's best hope for the future. Clinton supporters attempting to undermine the ticket are creating a new partisanship within the Democratic Party.
There's no point in trying to order what isn't on the menu, folks. Start your own party if you can't get with the program.

Posted by: Steve D. | August 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't want an angry black women as first lady

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama is a racist.

Hillary 2012

Posted by: Tony | August 25, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused about how Obama won. Did he win because of pleged delegates from superdelagates who padded his total so he could get over the top as my understanding was that neither he or Clinton would end up with enough delegates to win.
Why won't he show us his birth certificate, if he was born in Hawaii, it should be easy to prove, but he has put two up on his sites, both fakes.

Posted by: Marilyn | August 25, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Let's vote for McBush. At least the deadbeat Dads and drug user will have someone to look up to.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm Hillary supporter and will continue to support her. My vote and most of my friends and family who are also democrats will be voting for McCain. Obama has no chance against McCain especially with Biden as veep.

Us democrats are doomed again!

Posted by: Demo-crat | August 25, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

To All Fellow Democrats,

Let stop discuss the meaningless thing here.
AND
Let us all vote for President McCain. End of discussion.

President McCain


Posted by: Microtek | August 25, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama
“Sorry... I forgot you can never use his middle name!”

Posted by: Obama Osama | August 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

The good Lord has placed Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden on this planet

at this time to guide and return us to the great nation we were

before President Bush took office.

Thank you Jesus.
- What to make sure more babies are killed?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

These are Republicans posing as Clinton supporters. Wait until McBush choses magic underwear. The Wingnuts will jump ship. Divide and conquer. Which is what you are trying to do here!

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Just in ... looks like old Teddy will be attending the dimwitocrap convention in person ... too bad Mary Jo Kopechne (July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969)can't attend as well.

Posted by: 02Z06Vette | August 25, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Will America like Michelle Obama the more they see her or will they decide they don't want and angry black women as first lady?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it interesting that Clinton has Rush Limbaugh to thank for even being considered as a possible candidate for our country's leader????? She lost it long before she was even considered!

Posted by: Chukkal | August 25, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The good Lord has placed Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden on this planet

at this time to guide and return us to the great nation we were

before President Bush took office.

Thank you Jesus.

Posted by: bobnsri | August 25, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

All treacherous of the Clintons are now in full view.
Hillary is faking allegiance to the Obama campaign but her heart is in his defeat so she thinks that 2012 will be her turn.

If I had the opportunity to tell her to forget-about-it. Will never forgive her traitorous behavior in the primaries and she will be the only one responsible for Obama's defeat.

Posted by: j.moreno | August 25, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh this is the best electoral race in memory. Hillary and her sour-faced supporters having to make nice to the Obama camp. It doesn't get much better than this. Well, it will - as soon as Hillary brings out the attack dogs to derail Obama and ensure she has a run in 2012. Obama is about to get the experience he lacks ...

Posted by: Dave | August 25, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

To All Fellow Democrats,

Let stop discuss the meaningless thing here.
AND
Let us all vote for President McCain. End of discussion.

President McCain


Posted by: Microtek | August 25, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Empty suit huh! They said that about Bill Clinton as well. That turned out real well for everyone.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama on family values. His half brother George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.

"I live here on less than a dollar a month."

Obama says he's for the poor, How come he doesn't help his poor brother?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/obamas-kenyan-half-brothe_n_120071.html

Posted by: Amy | August 25, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

In regards to the thread about Obama and Clarence Thomas. Obama is mulatto, while Clarence Thomas is the real deal and arose from the humblest of roots, like Oprah. He did not get to spend his formative years cavorting in Hawaii. Furthermore, Clarence Thomas has slave blood in his ancestry, while Obama has no slave blood in his ancestry and no American black heritage (the Obama daddy was an African muslim from Kenya). Furthermore, Clarence Thomas was not brainwashed in some Chicago Afro-Stalinist nut-church for 20 years.

Posted by: Rabashk | August 25, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

There was a comment about Obama not having any management experience. It appears that McCain hasn't had any either, particularly on the home(S) front where Mommy Beerbucks brings in the money and the staff has to do a house count.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | August 25, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

If you Hillary supporters love her so much...

#1 SHUT UP AND PAY OFF HER DEBT!!!!

#2 IF YOUA RE VOTIGN FOR McCAIN DO SO AND SHUT UP!!!

No one want sto hear your silly threats.

Posted by: hey | August 25, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Democratic hate convention will sink Osama faster than poop in a toilet..

Posted by: Liberals Suck | August 25, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

you people not voting for Obama because of "what he did to Bill and Hillary"...please explain. He won, fair and square no matter how big of temper tantrum Billary had or no matter how much they tried to change the rules they agreed to BEFORE the primaries.

Its typical Clinton politics...me or no one and if not, I'm taking my toys and going home.

Posted by: FDR | August 25, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama is an empty suit. He has no experience or accomplishments to indicate that he can handle the Presidency. It is rather unnerving to think of "Lt. Fuzz" as Commander in Chief.

Posted by: John-VA | August 25, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain's trying to act like a Maverick when he isn't and flip flopping on most everything to sell out to the hard right shows he takes a very wide stance on the issues and the way his handlers are running their mudfest of ads shows that they are working in the same place where Larry Craig got into trouble.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | August 25, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Support gay marriage, let us have adoption rights. vote Obama

Posted by: Tim | August 25, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Reading this garbage makes me sick. There are a lot of angry, mean-spirited people in this country who need to look themselves in the mirror before blaming any politician for the challenges this country faces. Politicians come and go, but how we choose to treat each other in this country is what truly defines what who we want to be as a nation. The dialogue in this country has sunk to such a disgraceful level it's no wonder our politics is what it is.

Posted by: mattcrot | August 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

McCain = more of the same
if someone really votes for this guy, at this point and after everything the republicans have done, they must really hate America.

Posted by: keith hernandez | August 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

No one seems to be mentioning that perhaps they cant stay because she cant pay their hotel bills, rental car bills, etc.

Posted by: Jeff | August 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

This is going to be one fun week ... anyone know of any cable stations broadcasting 24/7, all the nuts, flakes and crackpots attending this three-ring circus called the democrat convention?

Obama's poll numbers will sink like the titanic when the rest of America see the disgusting actions of the "NEW DEMOCRAT" party this week! Pass the popcorn and keep the beer cold and flowing!

Posted by: 02Z06Vette | August 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

The real question is whatever happened to those WMDs. Axis of evil that we never negotiate with? A Timeline is surrender? Who going to send their kids to fight for oil?

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I am so so shame to be a Democrat, so I must cast my vote for President McCain.

Posted by: Microtek | August 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

it's going to be interesting to see how the clintons will hijack the news cycle during this dem convention. perhaps bill will be rushed to the hospital suffering from "chest pains" some time tonight, taking all the attention away from CarterEdwardsMichelle et al, and allowing hillary to alter her speech to talk about all the wonderful things her "sick" husband has done for the country tomorrow night. of course, bill will return fully recovered by Weds, just in time for a speech on famous political comebacks. sounds crazy, i know. but something like this is gonna happen. mark these words.

Posted by: matt | August 25, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Mark you said:

"obama... let's see...

If you were on the board of say... McDonalds...and you had a young man who worked as a cashier for 2 years... and he said he knew how to run the McDonalds corporation better than the previouis CEO's... would you hire him..?

I mean.. he never ran a company before...but he says he can do it better...and he's been at the register for 2 years... so... he surely knows how to run a company right..?"
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Using your logic I wouldn't give HRC the job either she has been at the register for 4 years and was married to the former boss. Infact it could be argued that she got her job because she was married to the former boss not on any qualifications. .... Bottom line... if Obama is unqualified... So is HRC.... Hey may be Monica lewinsky should run for President... She use to work in the white house and she performed the marital duties HRC didn't... Or maybe we should get her to run for a Senate seat in New York....

Posted by: supascience | August 25, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama on family values. His half brother George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.

"I live here on less than a dollar a month."

Obama says he's for the poor, How come he doesn't help his poor brother?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/obamas-kenyan-half-brothe_n_120071.html

Posted by: Hillary08 | August 25, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't Dick Cheney running? I guess he wore that flag pin out and is ready to cash in. Now it McBush's turn.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Here I am, sitting in my $500k McMansion with my $350k annual family income, worrying about the future of the once great nation and its middle and working class (from which I come), and the thought just dawned on me that I should just give up on it. If some working guy without insurance and just above minimum wage job wants to vote for the GOP, maybe I shouldn't care less, 'cause I got mine. If some angry HRC supporter doesn't care about the composition of the SCOTUS or her 18 year old son becoming cannon fodder for the right wing Christianist war machine, why should I, 'cause I got mine. If some elderly person can't get himself to vote for that "Negro" who's trying to keep them in their home and with some reasonable financial security, why should I care, 'cause I got mine....Might as well give into the darkest of human impulses and join the GOP.....

Posted by: Jaybird | August 25, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Hillary got screwed by MSNBC... Obama will never get our vote...

Posted by: Joe | August 25, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse


GET OVER IT!


YOU LOST !!!!!!!!!


Posted by: ObamaEdwards | August 25, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Republicans don't deserve 4 more years in the White House. That is why I am voting for the Democratic ticket in November. I trust Barrack/Biden and the Democratic platform over another four years of what we have had for the last 8.

America is in economic decay and it is a decay that you can actually 'feel' when you go to the grocery store or gas station or have to scale back travel due to prices.

I am a child of a military family, my sibling served in the first Gulf War. I know first hand what it is like to have loved one's in a theater of war.

It is forever unforgivable, that George W. Bush with the strong push of the republican party sent our young men and women into Iraq based on falsified intelligence of WMD's. Thousands of young American soldiers have died horribly violent and bloody deaths as a result of this lie.

If, for no other reason, I cannot morally support the party that orchestrated this complete disregard for American lives.

Republicans will not get my vote in November, in 2012 or any other election. They claim to be the "pro-life" party yet carelessly sent our troops to die in Iraq based on a lie.

Death to me is very real. It is not a political play thing.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | August 25, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

This DNC has already taken on the tone of a religious cult gathering combined with a corporate power retreat.

"Do it for the team, unity, change, unity, change, unity, what's the secret handshake?" I'm ashamed of my party.

Posted by: ugh | August 25, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama stands against the Bush tax cut during a time of war. So did McBush before his sold his sold to the fanatics on the right.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain '08:
Experience.
Dedication.
Trust.

Posted by: Craig | August 25, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

What is clear is that Clinton could put a stop to most of the angry posts from those who voted for her. It is not enough to say on the campaign trail that she supports Obama. She should say directly to those people, "Enough! Your continued angry posts are hurting the party and our country. You are damaging the programs and ideals I have worked for and you voted for. Stop them now!" It's time she told her supporters to stop the emotional rants, get over it, and work to make this country better.

Posted by: Pamela Levine | August 25, 2008 4:40 PM

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Pamela dear, our votes and loyalties are commodities, to be transferable, packaged, securitized, with derivates on top, and sold to investors and any one else the world over.

We voted for HRC. We respect HRC but does not mean we will rubber stamp Nobama merely because she has been blackmailed to endorse Nobama by the big wigs of the party (the same scum that looked the other way when Matthews was calling Chelsea a pimp).

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I iam a proud hillary supporter and will tell u straight away i will never ever vote for obama after what he pulled on bill and hillary. I doubt i will vote for mccain but I MIGHT!

Posted by: sue | August 25, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

the only racist her is Obama and his supporters. The word racist comes out of their mouth to explain everything to them. They are closed minded and can't think beyond blaming racism for everythink. Maybe they should look at the FACT that Obama was in office barly 6 months before deciding to run for president. He ran against someone who at least got as many votes as he did but was too gender biased to name her as his VP. He associated with at least a dozen known criminals and used sneeky politics to win his first election by getting his challengers kicked off the ballot. Not to mention the crappy thing he did to Michigan and Florida.

Posted by: 1paperclip | August 25, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

please someone tell me where to get info about obamas changes. i am trying to make up my mind about who to vote for this nov. i can't find anything.

Posted by: cplwally95 | August 25, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS SHOWING SOMETHING THAT SEEMED TO BE SEVERELY LACKING IN THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN STAFF- LOYALTY!!!--TELL THE ARROGANT SOB WHAT YOU REALLY THINK OF HIM AND HIS NO-EXPERIENCE, EFF OFF ALL HIS LIFE WAYS-AND SHOW THAT DUMB LITTLE BEATCH PATTI SOLIS DOYLE WHAT YOU THINK OF HER AS WELL-GOOD JOB CLINTON STAFFERS-I APPROVE OF YOUR ABSENCE-YOU MUST DO THIS! AND REMEMBER-WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA-WE ARE VOTING THE MCCAIN/ROMNEY TICKET-ALL THE MILLIONS WHO WOULD HAVE GONE FOR HILLARY ARE GOING FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE WE LIKE MCSAME-WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT LEADERSHIP OR ANYTHING ELSE BEING COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SUPERPOWER-OBAMA-COMMANDER IN CHIEF-OH MY GOD! THAT SENDS CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE-OF HORROR!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"HILLARY 2012"

Bill Clinton would say this;

Now that's the biggest bologni I've ever heard!!!

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama claims change LMAO, Joe hair plug Biden has been in office for 36 years. Change my Butt..

Posted by: Amy | August 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Well clearly the "tension" issue is the only controversial thing the press has to talk about right now. Aren't there any "issues" to talk about. All this "can we get along" chat is getting kind of tired. Even a news junkie like me hasn't bothered to look at the news today because it's all the same drivel. Nothing news worthy yet....

Posted by: Gerry, Austin | August 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

NO ERIC, I DONT' HAVE A CLUE, NOT A CLUE WHAT OBAMA STANDS FOR-I SEE HIM MOUTHING PLATITUDES, AND THEN, LIKE A WEATHERVANE, HE CHANGES WHAT HE SAID THE DAY BEFORE-OVERNIGHT-180 DEGREES-THAT'S SCARY. THERE IS EVERY INDICATION THAT OBAMA DOESN'T STAND FOR ANYTHING-HE'S GOING TO INVADE PAKISTAN, DIDN'T YOU HEAR HIM SAY THAT? HILLARY SURE AS HELL DIDN'T MAKE SUCH A FOOLISH INANE REMARK, DID SHE? BECAUSE SHE HAS EXPERIENCE AND HE DOESN'T! AND DON'T LOOK TO HAIR PLUG PLAGIARIST LIGHTWEIGHT BIDEN EITHER-HE'S ALL OVER THE PLACE, MOSTLY WRONG ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS-THE ONLY REASON HE DOES THAT IS BECAUSE HE HAS THE SENIORITY TO BE CHAIRMAN OF ANY COMMITTEE HE WANTS-YEAH, A PROFESSIONAL SENATOR-THAT'S WHO YOU WANT AS VP, HUH!

SHEESH GET A CLUE, IDIOT! OBAMA STANDS FOR NOTHING EXCEPT GETTING ELECTED-AND THEN GOD KNOWS WHAT HE'D DO-IT'S TOO SCARY TO CONTEMPLATE!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Funny seeing the GOP concern trolls on here today worrying about poor Hillary's feelings, when their tune was so different during their own primary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/25/115715/026/957/574683


Calling Hillary a "#itch"? Hilarious!

Posted by: Drain You | August 25, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

SUPPORT TERRORIST VOTE A MUSLIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE

Posted by: Osama Obama | August 25, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Enough said on this lame post. The McBushies are in here posing and Clinton supporters. They don't want to talk about their flawed candidate and nor does McBush waht to talk about himself. Never trust a man who cheats on his wife and leaves his family for money. Don't like it deal with it.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

You all better vote for Obama. I need my reparations check like now.

Posted by: Joe D. | August 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

If you're one of the CAPS only crowd, or someone who just wants to sink to name-calling, please skip this post. To the relatively small number of you who have posted intelligently, thank you.

I think at this point, the election comes down to who McCain picks as VP. IMHO, if he picks Romney, he'll lose the centrists. If he picks a centrist, he'll lose some of the conservatives, but not the ones who would cringe at the thought of him chosing Romney. I think one of his best bets is Leiberman. The question here is whether or not a McCain-Lieberman ticket will pull moderates and independents. That could spell disaster for Obama.

I've travelled around the world, I served in the navy for 20 years. And while this dance gets a bit uglier every 4 years, I always find it interesting and educational. For all the shortcomings, I'd still take the US over any other country. I'll probably not vote for Obama. i may not even vote for McCain. But whoever is elected, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.

Posted by: RetiredCPO_USN | August 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"Nob was essentially endorsing everything that happened in the Hill vs Tom hearings."

...So the way to "right the wrong" of the Clarence Thomas hearings is to...nominate more Clarence Thomases to the bench by voting for McCain?

...and you are calling me slow?

Posted by: ussamsarmy | August 25, 2008 4:37 PM

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I expect the dem senate will become even more so in this election, and I will be casting my own vote to make it that way. I know the fools in the COngress in 1991, despite being in the majority, voted Thomas in, but I am expecting they won't do it the 2nd time.

With a strong dem congress, McCain will be shackled and can't make one-way decisions. The result be more Souters, not Thomases.

However, with a filibuster proof dem Senate, the smug Obama-groupie Pelosi in charge of a stronger house, and finally the Nob-ster in the WH, it will be mayhem. These guys will be so out of control, dems will have 1994 boomerang on them with 10 times larger effect in 2010 and 2012.

Not to mention, we HRC supporters could never vote for Nob, after the rce and sex card games he played through out last yr.

HRC 2012

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

To 2012:

Hillary might run again in 2012, but she still will not win because the same party she turned her nose up to in 2008 will never vote for her including me and many others.

Posted by: Carrie from Georgia | August 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

BobC wrote" I take it to mean "qualifications" when you mention "merit". You want him to be given a chance based on merit? You think Obama is trying out for the football team. We're talking POTUS, not the bad news bears. Obama being black no more qualifies him for the job than me. He has NO qualifications for the job. Don't believe me? Ask his running mate."


Bob,

Please, no lectures on "merit." W.'s been skating by all his life on "merit." Merit's b---s---. It's funny, the more money or connections a person seems to have, the more their "merit" seems to increase.

Chris is dead on, and the truth hurts -- that progressives can be just as racist in their hearts as the conservatives oppose. There is no logical reason for a Hillary supporter to oppose Obama if they're voting on the issues. So that tells me they're opposing him for another reason. His inexperience? Ha. Has more than Hillary does as an elected official. Has more than W. did when he was elected.

Clinton people: Obama is the nominee. If you're a real Democrat, you'll support him. I hope you will. If not, you'll be on the wrong side of history twice this year. And you'll have to live with it. You can choose to be a part of something beautiful and live up to the principles you claim to have, or you can be bitter and give in to fear and ruin a beautiful thing that's being built in this country. Your choice.

Posted by: Yale | August 25, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Where are the leadership skills that Obama is supposed to have? Where is the judgement, the superior political intelligence. This guy is a pumped up nothing, with the power now to reduce his party (which should now be called, I guess, the Obama party) to a minor political force.

Posted by: nalucana | August 25, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

i am still waiting on a reply about OBAMA's CHANGE. i guess its because nobody knows what change he is really talking about.

Posted by: cplwally95 | August 25, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

YES! Ron Paul, was the only true American who "GOT IT", too bad the country doesnt even understand him, or appreciate his words of wisdom.

Posted by: PETER | August 25, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama claims change LMAO, Joe hair plug Biden has been in office for 36 years. Change my Butt..

Posted by: Amy | August 25, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

THE CLINTON ADVISERS FAILED. THEIR CAMPAIGN STRATEGY WAS TERRIBLY FLAWED. I WOULDN'T SHOW MY FACE EITHER.

Posted by: JAMIE | August 25, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I am, or was a supporter of HRC. Mr. Obama blew it with his obvious lack of judgement in picking a running mate that is just about as old as McCain (so much for your age knocking DNC!)and is as foul-mouthed as they come. The DNC rules committee gave the nomination to Obama when they ruled against the delegate votes from Michigan and Florida only to have their "decision" over-turned by a simple letter written by Obama imploring the DNC to allow the Mich/Fla delegates to have all of their votes - partisan politics at its' finest!
McCain has my vote to keep the tax breaks in place for all of us hard working Americans who do make more than $200k a yr. and pay the lion's share of taxes in the US as well as contribute heavily to the economic success of our country!

Posted by: Jane | August 25, 2008 4:38 PM


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McCain has my vote now to keep the tax breaks in place for all of us hard working Americans who do make more than $200k a yr. and pay the lion's share of taxes as well as contribute heavily to the economic success of our country!

Posted by: jggalvin | August 25, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm 52, male, middle class, an Indepenedent, white, a veteran, and voting Obama/Biden in November. Many Americans are looking at the "experienced" politicians and saying, "What have you done for ME lately?"

Posted by: leonard | August 25, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

ALL THIS IS NOISE, should have voted RON PAUL in and get beyond all this NONSENSE, and get back to American ideals and the Constitution
Place is becoming a bunch of babies who are either in need of an ENEMY or a NANNY STATE

Posted by: John | August 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

For weeks I have been reading angry comments by Clinton supporters saying that they will vote for McCain or stay home. Some say these people are actually Republicans trying to cause trouble for the Democrats. There might be some truth to that. We will never know.
What is clear is that Clinton could put a stop to most of the angry posts from those who voted for her. It is not enough to say on the campaign trail that she supports Obama. She should say directly to those people, "Enough! Your continued angry posts are hurting the party and our country. You are damaging the programs and ideals I have worked for and you voted for. Stop them now!" It's time she told her supporters to stop the emotional rants, get over it, and work to make this country better.

Posted by: Pamela Levine | August 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama claims change LMAO, Joe hair plug Biden has been in office for 36 years. Change my Butt..

Posted by: Amy | August 25, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

If you were on the board of say... McDonalds...and you had a young man who worked as a cashier for 2 years... and he said he knew how to run the McDonalds corporation better than the previouis CEO's... would you hire him..?
I mean.. he never ran a company before...but he says he can do it better...and he's been at the register for 2 years... so... he surely knows how to run a company right..?

Mark, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had plenty of experience. Good judgement always trumps experience.

Posted by: lhummer | August 25, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I love watching the Obama/Hill implosion. Why can;t you all both just get along? Why not? Becasue you're all phonies---masquerading as caring about the world, the environment, the poor people in Africa, when you're all simply slefish, self-interested, guilt-ridden liberals. This is what happens to any group of people who have no principles---when conflict occurs, then each person for him or herself. A wonderful anthropology lesson is the Democratic Party in 2008.

Posted by: Rags | August 25, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

You know that artificially dramatic music they play during the elimination of a reality TV contestant to get you feeling like it really matters? That's pretty much the Hillary vs. Obama soundtrack the media are gleefully playing at full volume as the convention begins. They firmly believe that we're a nation of tabloid-loving drama addicts and, for the most part, they're not wrong.

Posted by: Steve D. | August 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Let it be, let it go...What's the big deal about Clinton's supporters. Other candidates had supporters why are we not talking about them, it’s because they have accept the fact, Mrs. Clinton lost and that's. In my opinion it’s not a liberal or conservative thing, it’s a fact. I voted for Sen. Clinton, but she lost and I have moved on, I had hoped she would have been picked for Vice, but she was her own worst enemy. Now we keep talking about her supporters WHO CARES....LET IT GO...Know when to hold them, know when to fold, know when to walk away, and know when to win. ...Help me accept the thing I can not change and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM TRYING TO SAY IT THE BEST I CAN...LET IT GO...

Posted by: kannbil | August 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Hillary, but the childish behavior by Clinton supporters now has me wondering if women are really qualified to lead- or even vote. I never believed the stereotypes about irrational vindictive women. I was wrong. Maybe after another 50 years of girls playing sports and learning to lose with dignity we'll be ready.

Posted by: Betsy P | August 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Some of you people really out to be ashamed of the ridiculous, childish statements you are posting. Whether you support Clinton, Obama or McCain you know full well that Obama supports 95% of the issues that Clinton does. If you support Hillary and vote for McCain you are either delusionally stupid or in fact a racist because Obama is in your best interest. In any case, there aren't enough of you to make a difference.

Posted by: Eric | August 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Exxon McCain
what's morally progressive about democrats? particularly Chicago democrats like Obama who bought his million dollar pad with help from convict Tony Rezko.


Posted by: gm1000 | August 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"Nob was essentially endorsing everything that happened in the Hill vs Tom hearings."

...So the way to "right the wrong" of the Clarence Thomas hearings is to...nominate more Clarence Thomases to the bench by voting for McCain?

...and you are calling me slow?

Posted by: ussamsarmy | August 25, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

SOME OF YOU DOPES KEEP HARPING ON MCCAIN BEING FOR A "PRO-LIFE" JUDGE-PERSONALLY I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE ABORTION ISSUE-THAT'S THE LEAST OF THIS COUNTRIES WORRIES! BUT SINCE MCCAIN VOTED FOR BOTH PRO-CHOICE DEM. JUDGES GINSBERG AND BREYER-THE TWO MOST LIBERAL JUDGES ON THE BENCH (AND HE DIDN'T HAVE TO FOLKS, AND REPUBS. WERE REALLY REALLY REALLY ANGRY WITH MCCAIN FOR DOING SO!) THEN, WHY ARE YOU SO WORKED UP ABOUT HIM PUTTING A JUDGE ON THE SUPREME COURT THAT IS PRO-LIFE, HUH? THAT'S JUST STUPID!-HIS OWN RECORD BELIES THAT!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

we don't want you as a Democrat any more.

Posted by: Go3rd PartyHill | August 25, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Ross, you seriously need therapy. If you are for the "change" candidate....I rest my case!!

Posted by: cb | August 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how the "chosen one's" fanatics can respond to the following primary facts:

Primary's lost by the "Chosen One"
1) Lost TX primary
2) Lost CA primary
3) Lost OH primary
4) Lost IN primary
5) Lost PA primary

Posted by: Facts | August 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Carol McCain is the real POW and American hero. John Bush sold secrets to the communist while a POW. A cheat and his drug addict wife will not be in my WH. Not to mention she is a bootlegger. Some family values.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Any woman that votes for anyone other than Obama, needs to check whats on her head and whats bewteen her legs. She will become subservient to the Christian Right (oxymoron) and loose control of both.

Posted by: enn | August 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone tell me what Obama is about besides "CHANGE". I hear him talk about change and about all of these programs that he wants the put into place. Sounds to me like the only change he wants is for all Americans to walk around with "CHANGE" in their pockets.
Another thing, he is the one that is playing the race card. i have only heard him talk about the color of skin, no one else. sounds to me like he is the racist.
what is he for and what is he against? someone please tell me.
thank you.

Posted by: cplwally95 | August 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world was Hillary even allowed to speak at the convention? Biggest mistake.....so far!

Posted by: gah | August 25, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama on family values. His half brother George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.

"I live here on less than a dollar a month."

Obama says he's for the poor, How come he doesn't help his poor brother?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/obamas-kenyan-half-brothe_n_120071.html

Posted by: Hillary08 | August 25, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

After reading about half of these post have come to the conclusion you people are .I Dont beleive any of you children know a damn thing!......GOD HELP US.....

Posted by: abrams61 | August 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Ima JakeD
you fear me, yo

Ima JakeD
Ima hear y'know

Ima JakeD
reprezentin', yo

Ima winna, not a stonecold killa,
Ima lova, but not a playa,

Ima hear,
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WERKIN' IT!

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, the HRC supporters should start a movement
__________

Yea. See what unqualified wives and ex-wives can run for president. How about Paul McCartney's ex, Anna Nicole Smith would be perfect had she lived. She and Hillary are identical in their accomplishments.

____________

How about Ivana Trump. Same qualifications as Hillary.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

BY THE WAY, DID ANYONE SEE THAT PICTURE OF MICHELLE OBAMA TOGETHER WITH BIDEN'S WIFE? WHOA! THERE WAS NO SMILE ON MICHELLE'S FACE, THAT'S FOR SURE! YOU TALK ABOUT AN UGLY DEFIANT AS HELL LOOK-GO CHECK IT OUT YOURSELVES, AND TELL ME IF I'M NOT RIGHT! HOLY MOLEY-MICHELLE-YOUR HANDLERS NEED TO BE REIGNING YOUR TRUE PERSONALITY IN A LITTE MORE-THAT PHOTO WAS DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO HELP YOU IN MIDDLE AMERICA!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

AGAIN none of the McBusies seem to respond to the fact that most people will not vote for a man who cheats on his wife and leaves his family for money. Carol McCain is the real POW and American hero.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of sore losers out there and I am sorry for, but much more for the country if we have four more of war, another pro-life Supreme Court judge, tax relief for corporations that invest in factories and jobs in foreign countries, no relief for the housing crises, no universal health coverage, privatization fo social security, another blustering, swaggering my way or the highway Republican President and our prestige as a country down in the sewer. And remember, the Clintons had a huge number of automatic no votes, so she may not have been further ahead than Obama is right now. Please get it over it, and vote O. Not to, does not show that you care much about the programs that Hillary herself was fighting for.

Posted by: Madeleine | August 25, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

obama... let's see...

If you were on the board of say... McDonalds...and you had a young man who worked as a cashier for 2 years... and he said he knew how to run the McDonalds corporation better than the previouis CEO's... would you hire him..?

I mean.. he never ran a company before...but he says he can do it better...and he's been at the register for 2 years... so... he surely knows how to run a company right..?

Posted by: mark | August 25, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, the HRC supporters should start a movement
__________

Yea. See what unqualified wives and ex-wives can run for president. How about Paul McCartney's ex, Anna Nicole Smith would be perfect had she lived. She and Hillary are identical in their accomplishments.

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 25, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Any American that will vote for anyone other than Obama is , to say the least, foolish,irresponsible and callous towards his or her fellow men and woman. Not the Christian thing to do.

Posted by: enn | August 25, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I certainly hope that the Clintons will not hijack the Democratic Convention and take the spotlight away from Obama. Boy,oh boy, when is it all going to end.

Posted by: Get on with it | August 25, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not even attempting to answer... I'm just wondering... Is it possible to judge Obama completely on merit and find him lacking - without it being racist?"

Great post! If people would argue against Obama using substance, such as, "I don't like his ideas", that would be fine. But all too often, the message is garbled with petty insults, references to his name, and this generic "he's not qualified" argument.

The problem with the "qualfication" argument is that it is subjective. Obama has been a legislator for 10 years. That's more ACTUAL time spent as an ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE than both GW Bush (when he ran in 2000-- he had been governor for 6 years, with 0 foreign policy experience, yet we elected him over a sitting VP who had been a senator for at least 2 terms prior) AND Hillary Clinton, who has only held ELECTIVE office since 2000.

Obviously, one could go back and forth over what that experience means. But the level of emphasis on "experience" was never applied to Bush, or Clinton or even John Edwards, when they ran.

Posted by: ussamsarmy | August 25, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Hillary 2012

I will vote McCain before I vote for who? who? who is this guy? Oh, yeah, let me turn on my t.v. so all the pundints can tell me! HAH! NEVER NEVER NEVER OBAMA!!!!

Hillary 2012 - she'll be a bigger nut cracker by then!!!!!!! I can't wait!!!!!

For now, just God Bless America because we need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Never Obama. Never! | August 25, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

This makes no sense, as Biden voted AGAINST Thomas. Secondly, unless the Constitution was miraculously amended within the last 24 hours, the VP has zero power to make judicial nominations.

Facts and reality aside, what point are you even trying to make??

Posted by: ussamsarmy | August 25, 2008 4:24 PM

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Well, since you are evidently slow..

First, Bidos had full control over the proceedings back then. He failed to show any leadership. They could have shot down the Uncle Tom nomination in the Senate committe itself, which he could n't. On top, was the disgusting 14-men lecerous questioning of Prof Hill, to which Bidos was the main sponsor.

Yes, Bidos is (presumably) not the one making the choice, but if Nobama is to Bidos as the SHrub is to DIckter, it could be. But, even otherwise, by picking Bidos, one of whose chief accomplishments was the Hill hearings, Nob was essentially endorsing everything that happened in the Hill vs Tom hearings.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the answer "intcamd1"

Faur enough, I can tell that you are a female, but this is not the show about wife swaping or wet T-shirt contest. You gotta admit that even though Michelle Obama is black woman, she still has a class and standing better than HRC. About HRC experience, where did she get her experience to be the president, surely not from being in Bosnia under sniper fire. Thanks anyway, but reason not to vote for another good democrat gotta be legitimate and pretty strong that just out of anger because we did not have more women to vote for. VOTE OBAMA FOR YOURSELF GOOD.

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

OH I'M SO SORRY SO SORRY OBAMABOTS! PLEASE MASTER, WHIP ME FOR MY TRANSGRESSIONS AGAINST THE OH SO GREATEST ONE: THE ONE AND ONLY COCAINE-SNORTER EXTRAORDINARE (HE'S SUCH A GOOD ROLE MODEL FOR THE KIDDIES, YES?) FRIEND TO FELON AND TERRORIST ALIKE! OBAAAAAAAAAMA! OBAAAAAMA! OBAAAAAAAAMA!

THERE, AM I BRAINWASHED ENOUGH NOW?

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Well Hillary supporters can vote for McCain all they like in 2008, but make no mistake....if Obama doesn't win, Obama supporters aren't voting for her in 2012. So go ahead and give the Republicans the white house for the next 16 years. They'll just sit back and laugh at the stupid hicks.

Posted by: Mystic55 | August 25, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama on family values. His half brother George Hussein Onyango Obama living in a hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi.

"I live here on less than a dollar a month."

Obama says he's for the poor, How come he doesn't help his poor brother?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/obamas-kenyan-half-brothe_n_120071.html

Posted by: Hillary08 | August 25, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh no - a person in their earlier years did drugs?! OMG! What a news flash! Is this what's to define a person? Give me a break! Its like being shocked that someone smoked pot in the 60's! Not exactly something to define a grown man. Its called life...if we didn't make mistakes we wouldn't learn anything.

Posted by: Sha | August 25, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama better get ready to pucker up, this is his opportunity to win over the Clinton voters and the win the election. I am interested to see how well he does.

Posted by: DCDave | August 25, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Sore losers are lame. Period.

Posted by: Pathetic | August 25, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

To Chris: I take it to mean "qualifications" when you mention "merit". You want him to be given a chance based on merit? You think Obama is trying out for the football team. We're talking POTUS, not the bad news bears. Obama being black no more qualifies him for the job than me. He has NO qualifications for the job. Don't believe me? Ask his running mate.

Posted by: Bob C | August 25, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

As McCain has said about his own wife on camera in the past, Hillary is a c#%t.

Posted by: Jim | August 25, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Notice that no one responds to me when I say most people will not vote for a man who cheats on his wife and leaves his family for money. A man like the so called POW sold secrets to the Communists. And why not, he soldout his family.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Chris (see post below), was it racism or just politics that made Senator Obama say Clarence Thomas was unqualified and had too little experience to sit on the Supreme Court?

Posted by: terry | August 25, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Allen Charles... The same democrats who claim George Bush stole Florida wasn't going to let their own party vote for the primaires... That's the new democrats...some change.

Let your voice be heard and and your statement be seen... www.IwantAbetterChoice.com ..

Posted by: mark | August 25, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Party voting is silly. The wide range of views and competencies make it meaningless to 'stick Democrat just because'. Maybe, the HRC supporters should start a movement 'RNC and DNC go back and get some decent candidates to vote for, not an inexperienced hype machine and not a perpetual runner up candidate that is more of the same'.

Start voting for the people, folks, not the party hype.

Posted by: flux | August 25, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The AIPAC QUEEN LOST, get over it.


Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

These are presidential candidates, not your buddies. They should not be referred to by first name. Even if you don't respect the candidate, respect the office they seek.

And please respect yourself and others by exercising some restraint when you write.

_____________

Absolutely right, you buttsausage! we should genuflect before royalty, like you do, assclown!

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 25, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

We need to get beyond the thought process that all people who are not in favor of having a socialist for president are racist. Because when we wake up the day after the election in Novemebr and Obama has lost 40 -45 states we do not need a bunch of riots and other stuff. We will need to come together across the aisles with President McCain for the next 8 years.The vast majority of Americans still have the dream of becoming better off than their parents and the majority want to be rich. Even liberals don't check off the box on state income tax forms that allow for a larger amount of tax to be taken. With a socialist in office we become just like a European country and fall back to the time when you will become whatever your father was and here in the US that will be a serious problem as we have so few fathers.

Posted by: joe | August 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

We are ALL SICK OF HEARING CLINTON THIS, CLINTON THAT since we WON.


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Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Brenda and the rest of you woman supporters of Hillary Clinton - GET OFF YOUR PERIOD! Enough with the PMS!!! Enough of the "I am woan hear me roar"! If you all are sooo for a woman being in office then why don't you vote for Cynthia McKinney who is running on the Green Party Ticket? I know you wouldn't do that because you all are stuck on stupid!


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Candidate of Change ???? He picked Joe Biden who has been in Washington more than McCain probably. Biden voted for the War - what about that ? We should ignore because it will offend Obama ?? Obama is just an arrogant socialist whose only ambition is to be president and make money . he is power hungry and has nothing to do with love for his country. He would rollover, kiss boots, bully , close his eyes or throw anyone under the bus inorder to get what he wants - just a pompous hotheaded person who is bringing this great nation down !!!!
Hilary supporter who will vote for McCain !!!

Posted by: Brenda | August 25, 2008 2:34 PM


Posted by: wccidramaqueen | August 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Nobama said he was for change. He went and picked Bidos in his first major decision - yes, the same Bidos whao almost became a fossil in the Senate.

Nobama said he was against the same old politics. When his poll leads shrank to zero, he started attacking the number of houses Cindy McCain inherited from her war hero self-made millionnaire dad.

Nobama said Hillary would be on any one's short list. He then ignored and did not even vet, proving he is no "any one".

Nobama said he would bring the country and world together. He then split the dem party right down the middle, after the party finally united in mid-term 2006.

Nobama learned every thing he could from his preacher, and threw him under the bus when he decided there was n't much more he could learn. He did the same to his grandma the week prior, except the grandma raised him with her hands.


I can't believe those pesky CLinton supporters don't see all these great qualities that we, gutter rat groupies of Nobama have noticed, for over a year.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Well fool, speaking of Supreme Ct, you should ask your slimy Nobama hero why he picked Joey "Anita Hill" Bidos, the man single handedly responsible for putting CLarence Uncle Tom on the bench."

This makes no sense, as Biden voted AGAINST Thomas. Secondly, unless the Constitution was miraculously amended within the last 24 hours, the VP has zero power to make judicial nominations.

Facts and reality aside, what point are you even trying to make??

Posted by: ussamsarmy | August 25, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

CHRIS; MERIT? OBAMA? WHAT HAS THAT EFF OFF EVER DONE IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE TO PREPARE HIM, MUCH LESS 'MERIT' HIM BEING PRESIDENT, HUH? DOES HE GET IT BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT HE IS BIRACIAL, AND THAT'S A NOVELTY, SO THAT'S REASON ENOUGH TO FORGIVE THE COCAINE SNORTING, NEVER HELD A REAL JOB IN HIS LIFE OBAMA? GROW UP, IDIOT!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

If Obama really wanted Unity, he would have picked Clinton as his VP just on the basis of the number of supporters she has, and the votes she earned. He obviously was not interested in unity.

Posted by: 1paperclip | August 25, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain won't win. Most people will not vote for a man who lies and cheats on wife and leaves his family for money. You can never trust a man like that.

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama claims change LMAO, Joe hair plug Biden has been in office for 36 years. Change my Butt..

Posted by: Amy | August 25, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm not even attempting to answer... I'm just wondering... Is it possible to judge Obama completely on merit and find him lacking - without it being racist?

What if the people who don't support him are just doing that?

Or is Chris suggesting by no objective measure could one find him lacking?

Posted by: jon | August 25, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I am (or was) a BLUEDOG Democrat for all my voting life. I voted for HRC in the Florida primary. My vote was discounted by THE DNC (party ELITES) and Florida's primary was stolden and given to Obama. I finally got enough of the EGGHEADS and ELITES and have changed my registration and nolonger am a Democrat. I will vote for a Third Party in November. Chuck Boyd will be getting my vote. I suspect folks like me will prevent Obama the ELITES and the media from winning the election.

Posted by: Allen Charles | August 25, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

There has to be a better way to bring this country together... We have to look beyond the partisan 'theater' that is designed to divide us... My guess is we could find a solution if we'd stop pointing out differences and find some common ground. Seems like both parties do that a lot.

I understand why Obama didn't choose her..he wants a fresh start of sorts... but not sure Biden is a 'fresh start'...would have been better to pick a young outsider like himself... (sorta) and then had some momentum...

Either way... I think we are at a loss for good candidates as championed on the website Iwantabetterchoice.com .

Posted by: Mark | August 25, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

INTCAM-YOU BEAT ME TO IT-THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY! HOW MANY MILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY WOULD QUALIFY TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER THAT SIMPLE STANDARD, HUH? SHEESH! GET A CLUE PEOPLE! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WORLD'S ONLY SUPERPOWER HERE-A TERM THAT YOU HEAR AROUND THE WORLD, IF YOU TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD THAT IS-AND IT IS TRUE-YOU CAN'T PUT AN EFF OFF WHO HAS NEVER HELD A RESPONSIBLE JOB IN HIS LIFE AND WHO HAS NEVER DEVELOPED EXPERTISE IN HIS OWN PROFESSION, AND WHO IS CLUELESS ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE B HAS ALWAYS LIVED IN HIS OWN LITTE WORLD, POPULATED BY CONVICTED FELONS AND FRIENDS WHO ARE TERRORISTS-THAT'S NOT YOUR WORLD, BABY!-THAT'S THE WORLD OF THE OBAAAMA MAN!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The idiot failed the simple IQ test by choosing Biden as his running mate. It will be foolish for democrats to nominate such a racist wimp to be its standard bearer.

Posted by: Great Grand Father | August 25, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Watching you liberals have an intellectual meltdown is quite amusing. What are you folks going to do when you lose once again in a presidential election this fall?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Republican + Hillary supporters = McCain 08.
It is a fact. Look at this way, Bush got elected 2nd terms just on Republican votes alone. Obama has no chance of winning this election.

Posted by: ModerateGOP | August 25, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Posted by: CR | August 25, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

She is the reason we will not see a female president for some time. Menopause is real!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Why won't people just admit the truth that a great candidate who has done a masterful job is in danger of losing because democrats are as racists as their republican counterparts and despite the horrible shape this country is in and the promise of positive change Sen. Obama represents, white people cannot bring themselves to do the right thing just once and judge a Black man on merit and not skin color. Shame on all of you

Posted by: chris | August 25, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

These are presidential candidates, not your buddies. They should not be referred to by first name. Even if you don't respect the candidate, respect the office they seek.

And please respect yourself and others by exercising some restraint when you write.

Posted by: MMM | August 25, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

This man really does hate America and it's heritage. It's really amazing to me as the media is being duped once again.

Posted by: Jeff | August 25, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone actually naive enough to believe the Clintons prefer an Obama to their likely return to the White House in four short years when the national demographic has grown even more Democratic? As soon as Obama loses she becomes the Presumptive Candidate all over again. They just have to keep a straight face while they mail it in. By the way -Obama knows this better than anybody.

__________

Yep. That's their game. But they have failed to factor in the hillary revulsion factor. The recent focus on the opinions of democratic primary voters has overshadowed the fact that most normal americans can stand the sight sound or smell of this vile excuse for a human being and her rapist husband.

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 25, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Hillary supporter that will not vote for Obama and his racist friends.

Posted by: U.S.M.C. | August 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!!!!!! What a bunch of poor losers. With all the problems that we've had with the Repugs these last eight years, we need to vote for a Democrat regardless of who it is. This in-fighting is ridiculous and I blame it on the Clintons and their selfish narcissistic desire for power. They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. I will never have respect for them again. They are bringing the Democratic party down.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Hilary is out and she can take her supporters with her!

Posted by: Robirob | August 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

How much $$$ is their support going to cost? Want to be Secretary of State?, Ambasador to France? What are you trying to high jack the party for?

Posted by: Ross | August 25, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a decent man, a family man, good values, intelligent, hard working and seems honest with a deep commitment to justice. I think he would make a great president. When he shares his vision for America I find myself agreeing more often that not. So why would it be so hard to vote for him?

Posted by: Jim White | August 25, 2008 4:09 PM

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My uncle is decent man, a family man, good values, intelligent, hard working and seems honest with a deep commitment to justice. I think he would make a great president. When he shares his vision for America I find myself agreeing more often that not.

Perhaps my uncle should be the president.

Oh wait a minute, my father bits those adjectives too. Perhaps he should be the president.

But then my friend said the same about his father.

Has it ever occurred to Jimmy boy that there is a higher qualification to being a president, with an experience requirement that is merely satisfied with being "honest, hard working, and committed to justic"..

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Still no answer "Sen"?
Well, go on vote for McCain, Obama still has enough votes and suporters to win easy.

ANYBODY WITH ANSWER FOR ME? COME ON HILLARY SUPORTERS, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!! SO FAR YOU HAVE BEEN WASTING TIME TO OBAMA AND TO McCAIN, SO NEITHER OF THEM LIKES YOU.

Posted by: BOSBTER | August 25, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

""

"Barack Obama is a decent man, a family man, good values, intelligent, hard working and seems honest with a deep commitment to justice."

Really/ Then why did he break the law and use cocaine and schedule I substance and a felony, if he had such good values, huh? And what about those values? He sat at the feet of a racist hate-monger HIS ENTIRE ADULT LIFE AND WAS ONLY FORCED TO RENOUCE HIM UNTIL AFTER IT LOOKED LIKE HE WOULD LOSE THE DEM. CANDIDACY IF HE DID NOT!

SHEESH! GIMME A BREAK! THAT KNUCKLEHEAD HAS YOU REALLY BRAINWASHED, DOESN'T HE? OBAMA WILL DO ANYTHING, SAY ANYTHING FOR A VOTE-HE DOESNT STAND FOR A DAMN THING-LEAST OF ALL CHANGE-HA HA HA! WOW-THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS AMAZINGLY NAIVE-YES, LIKE MULDER ON THE X FILES-YOU DO REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE, DON'T YOU?

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the bggest "empty-suit" of all time, and anyone who is DUMB enough to vote for him, should be smacked!

Then they should smack THEMSELVES, for being so stupid!

Biden stinks too, and voted AGAINST the FIRST GULF WAR... Insane...

Silly liberals...

Posted by: ObamaStinks | August 25, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

"Labelling them "children" and "whiners?" Eh, that was McCain's chief economics advisor that called us a "NATION OF WHINERS"

Posted by: Steven | August 25, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Sabotage.

When Roe V. Wade is overturned, We attack Iran, we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan, when McCain vetoes a health care bill for all children, when Medicare is even more privatized, when military spending is ridiculously high--like now, when US-Russia relations are horrible, when US-China relations are horrible, when Oil prices stay sky-high, when Arabs and Muslims hate us even more than today, when inflation is high, employment low, US goes further into debt, the Patriot act is still in place.

Clintons, their advisers, and the million immature supporters of hers look in the mirror, they can blame themselves. Grow up people. Hillary lost fair and square. Obama and his campaign did nothing untoward. Hillary and co. treated Obama far worse than he did her.

Posted by: sabotage | August 25, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree with Obama on everything either.

I absolutely agree with lucci:

ABSOLUTELY No McCain in '08

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 25, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone actually naive enough to believe the Clintons prefer an Obama to their likely return to the White House in four short years when the national demographic has grown even more Democratic? As soon as Obama loses she becomes the Presumptive Candidate all over again. They just have to keep a straight face while they mail it in. By the way -Obama knows this better than anybody.

Posted by: John D. | August 25, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

ussamsarmy produced a cloud of gas, presumably not from his facial orifice.

Well fool, speaking of Supreme Ct, you should ask your slimy Nobama hero why he picked Joey "Anita Hill" Bidos, the man single handedly responsible for putting CLarence Uncle Tom on the bench.

Nobama got one thing right (finally) at Saddlebrook that Clary Tom does n't belong on the bench, but then he right away picks Bidos as his VP. What a nincompoop?!

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

It's time to end the Republican Fascist ruling of America,
What's wrong for being rich. Don't you want to get rich?

Posted by: indi | August 25, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is POW, blah, blah, blah.....He was a careless, foolish pilot who wrecked expensive government aircraft. Since that POW time, he has shriveled into a hard, selfish, arrogant little dwarf of a man who couldn't care less about Americans who earn their income rather than inherit it. He can't be trusted.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I am pleased that it isn't JUST specific Obama supporters behind Obama, but also those who intended to vote otherwise initially.

About the rest:

You know, Obama can only do what he can do, and that is to provide points of his policies (either you agree or don't agree), and let you know there's room for your additional support. Beyond that, it is up to these specific individuals; it's not about what Obama can do. Obama's doing what he can do. The focus should be on some of these Hillary supporters; if they're having a hard time STILL, then at some point, I have to ask when does it become their issue and not Obama's (win or lose) for making specific effort to even try? The article reports it as though it is solely the burden for Obama (in the sense of his run for the White House). Specifically about feeling or being involved in this process, it is their fair share of weight to pick up. Win or lose, if they don't feel included, that is up to them to produce action and make effort. Plenty has. Win or lose, that's not going to kill the spirits of the rest of us who sincerely have some agendas to help get accomplished here. We're moving forward. If you agree (but are disappointed still), there's room so climb aboard. If you disagree, I wish you the best of wishes.

Bottom line, we can't keep worrying and dragging our feet about those who keep choosing to stay out. In my opinion, Obama's already done what he can do. For this specific group of supporters, it is up to them to make effort and meet halfway. The door is open, and it's not that bad. Obama welcomes additional support, if you are able to find enough reason to support him and others. But when these certain ones keep choosing on their own to be dysfunctional, than functional, then they're not doing enough on their part in my opinion. They don't have to either. I'm just saying it's not all on Obama's shoulders. The door is open, and there's plenty of room, but the rest of us can't simply stop what we're doing because this portion of people are holding back.

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 25, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a decent man, a family man, good values, intelligent, hard working and seems honest with a deep commitment to justice. I think he would make a great president. When he shares his vision for America I find myself agreeing more often that not. So why would it be so hard to vote for him?

Posted by: Jim White | August 25, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't believe all those on-line polls if I were you. You know that all us clinton supporters rarely use computers.

Posted by: 1paperclip | August 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The angry obama fans really need to take a step back and reconsider their words. How do you build support? Threatening people? Calling them racist? Questioning their loyalty to their party? Labelling them "children" and "whiners?" The rhetorical answer is that these are obviously not useful methods for coalition-building. For a disaffected dem or an independent/moderate republican, last place I'd want to be is by the side of someone who's calling me a racist, etc.

These posts are useful, though, in confirming that the "unity" theme that we're hearing from the convention is nothing more than wishful thinking. Or maybe it's just for show: Do the dem leaders or even the party members really want unity? If you read these comments and the blogs, the answer is a resounding "no."

Posted by: hurricanewarningdc | August 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

HEY US ARMY, I THINK YOU'RE A LITTLE OVERWROUGHT THERE, BUDDY!-MOST OF US ARE NOT INTO THE ABORTION ISSUE-I PERSONALLY DONT' GIVE A DAMN ABOUT IT. MOST OF US KNOW AND ACCEPT THAT IT'S A PERSONAL ISSUE-AND I KNOW THAT MCCAIN AND ROMNEY BOTH FEEL THAT WAY TOO-THEY ARE NEITHER ONE INTO "PACKING" A SUPREME COURT WITH JUSTICES WHO WILL REVERSE ROE V. WADE. I PERSONALLY FEEL IT'S OFFENSIVE THAT THE SUPREME COURT EVEN TOOK UP THE ISSUE-IT IS A MATTER THAT SHOULD BE DECIDED BY THE STATES-AND YES, I'M A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA!

IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY FOR ME THAT MCCAIN/ROMNEY HAVE PERSONAL FEELINGS AGAINST IT-SO DOES BIDEN RIGHT? SO, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT THERE, BUDDY?

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe what I am reading. Why less than a year ago all of you would have eaten a mile of Hillary's s**t just to see where it is comming from. Now you are doing the same for that empty suite B. Hossein Obama. You are all idiots! Of course I am being redundant since you are all also Democrats.

Posted by: GLRevoir | August 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

To the fool called Mark that thinks all the people claiming to be HRC supporters are really Republican trolls -

Well, Marky Mark, an idiot like you can probably not read or understand polls. You heard that word, did n't you - polls. Seen any of them lately? Well, in the WSJ poll last week, just 1/2 of HRC supporters were for Nobama.

Last night in CNN poll, Nob and Mac deadlocked at 47, and Bill Schneider essentially conceded it was because of movement in the Clinton supporters who were moving away from Nobama.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I always skip Baraks speeches (lectures). He is boring and nothing new here for me, been around too long, as they say - been there done that

Yawn!

no McCain in 08
voting against McCain

Posted by: lucci8 | August 25, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Republican Convention Schedule Leaked!

Day 1 of the RNC schedule:
7:00 pm ? Ceremonial burning of the U.S. Constitution
7:15 pm ? Spiritual Medium Sylvia Browne performs psychic s?ance in desperate attempt to raise Ronald Reagan from the grave
7:35 pm ? "The Pleasu res of Adultery" - with Newt Gingrich & Rudy Giuliani
8:05 pm ? Gay sex party in Men's Restroom hosted by Senator Larry Craig
8:35 pm - Transvestite Ann Coulter ? "My Life as a Man"
8:55 pm ? Live satellite feed from Federal Prison ? Ohio Rep. Bob Ney
9:05 pm ? Guest speaker ex-Florida Congressman Mark Foley " Joys with Young Boys"
9:25 pm ? Oliver North ? " Iran is Evil, but I sold them weapons anyway"
9:40 pm ? Bill O' Reilly ? " The costs of sexual harassment and phone sex with employees"
10:00 pm ? Gay sex party in Men's Room hosted by Ken Mehlman and Geraldo Rivera
10:25 pm ? Check John McCain to see if he's still breathing and if his adult diaper needs changed.
10:35 pm ? N.R.A. President hosts an assault riffle target practice on Gays and Mexicans.
10:45 pm - Call emergency squad after a drunken Dick Cheney accidentally shoots his friend in the face.
11:00 pm ? President Bush performs his hilarious comedy routine where he looks for Iraq's fictitious WMD's under guests tables.
11:15 pm ? Governor Mike Huckabee does his famous uncanny imitation of Gomer Pyle.
11:20 pm ? Group intervention to get Rush Limbaugh back into drug rehab
11: 45 pm ? Go up on rooftop and throw rocks down at homeless Vets sleeping in alley.
12:00 am ? Live satellite feed from Federal Prison ? California Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham
12:20 am ? Convicted felon/Fox News analyst G. Gordon Liddy ? Lock picking secrets
12: 40 am ? Guest speakers Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz ? "How to lie your Country into a War"
1:00 am ? Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay ? "Tips on Money Laundering"
1:15 am ? Hookers arrive for after party
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/50096-republican-convention-schedule-leaked

Posted by: McCain 08 | August 25, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Change 08 Go ahead and continue to call
John Mccain a warmonger at least he was
right abouth the surge and Barrack
Hussein Obama was wrong...Go ahead and
vote for a guy who cant even answer the
abortion question "uhh its above my paygrade"....Go ahead and vote for a guy
thats pro gun control and is nothing
but an appeaser...Go ahead and vote for a guy who flat out will tell you hes going
to gut the military....a guy who doesnt
get who really pays for tax increases on
corporations...my god a line up of Pelosi
Kennnedy,Carter and Michelle...good thing
Stalin and Marx are dead

Posted by: wheels | August 25, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

ussamsarmy,

Spring Rain is a GOP troll pretending to be a Democrat. The blogs are overflowing with them. Ye will know them by their GOP talking points. Rush must have put 'em up to it....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

These Clinton supporters really act like a bunch of spoiled brats. This is ridiculous, folks. Grow up, please!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

All these yippy, dippy college kids don't give a hoot about elections. This is one big rock concert/party for them. It's scarry that these idiots are ruining are country.

I'm young but not that young and stupid. At least my parents gave me common sense and maturity w/ my college education. It's called SUBSTANCE.

HILLARY 2012.

Posted by: C in PA | August 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons have to come to the realization that they lost the nomination battle. While they can complain all they want about the rules and Florida and Michigan. The rules were well defined before the start of the contest, and they ran a very impressive campaign yet came in second. They should be backing the democratic ticket. As someone who truly respected the Clinton's I am very dissapointed in their temper tandrom.

Posted by: RTK | August 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Hope all know that a growing number of people think both camps are acting like kids! Hillary LOST -- fair and square. Obama is too arrogant, but if they do not set aside their differences, they are going to lose -- just like Hillary lost the nomination -- in November. They will only have themselves to blame, though I'm sure that Pelosi and Reid will blame Bush!!

Posted by: jwatl | August 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight - You, as a Hillary supporter will go against EVEYTHING she stands for, all of her beliefs and all of her hard work in the senate by supporting a man who is against it all? Why? Because you're pissed off? Because you have some misguided need for revenge? Revenge against who? The only people who are truly affected by your votes are the people. You cannot vote for McCain without spitting in Hillary's face. If you can't throw your support behind Obama, just stay home - at least that way you can maybe keep a scrap of your integrity.

Posted by: Sha | August 25, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama was handed this nomination by the liberal media. Period.

Posted by: davenp35 | August 25, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Ward6ForNow,
Blindly vote for your own party is dumb. Just look at how many Republicans voted for Bush out of party loyalty, as you think they should. Many will now vote for Obama. Are you going to tell me to vote for McCain out of the party loyalty? I say vote with your conscience. Cross part line is OK if your party does not select a candidate you believe in. But don't vote for the other party just because your dream candidate was defeated in the primary. That is equally bad.

Posted by: indi | August 25, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

deepak:

May I suggest Chuck Baldwin, runinng with the Constitution Party?

http://baldwin08.com/Chuck-Baldwin.cfm

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

UH, SORRY ADAM-IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT "ALL MY POSTS-YOU'LL FIND THEY ARE CONSISTENT-I'VE BEEN A DEM. ALL MY LIFE, AND I'M CROSSING OVER FOR MCSAME, BECAUSE I KNOW THE MCCAIN/ROMNEY TICKET IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE TWO DEM. KNUCKLEHEADS, AND I CARE MORE ABOUT MY COUNTRY THAN TO PUT KNUCKLEHEADS AT THE HEAD OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SUPERPOWER!"

It's clear you are a McCainiac..."the world's only superpower"? I know, that's what we told the Georgians...but I digress.

Any true Democrat knows that by electing McCain, you create a CLEAR 5 person hard-right, Anti-Roe majority on the Supreme Court.

He said so at Saddleback: Life begins at conception, and he would nominate judges like Scalia and Thomas. Add to that Sc-Alito and the 2 new judges (Stevens and Ginsburg will retire in the next 4 years) and you've got a 5 person majority, ALL on record having stated that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturned.

I challenge a Hillary supporter, knowing this to be true, to explain why voting McCain will be in the democratic party's interests-- specificially in terms of a woman's right to choose.

Posted by: ussamsarmy | August 25, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain will win this election thanks to Hillary and Bill. They have every reason to watch Obama lose and Hillary run again in 2012 when McCain has the country on the brink of disaster.

Posted by: BBB202 | August 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Hilary Clinton and her neurotic, cheesecake-eating housewife supporters are the world's biggest weenies. Clinton deserved to lose. She had all the advantages and bungled her campaign beyond anyone's worst nightmare. She blew it. Had she somehow pulled out the nomination, she would have gone on to royally screw up the presidential election.

_____________

Yep. America dodged a big bullet. Can you imagine this woman in charge of anything? Everything she has attempted, that wasn't rigged by her husband, has been a complete failure. What a loser. Go back to eating your bon bons and watching your soaps clintie fishwives.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The fool called BOBSTER produced gas below -

Well, Bobby, since you ask, what is future first fist bumber Michelle's problem with HRC? HRC is well liked abroad, she is qualified, worked tirelessly to help her state, tirelessly in the primaries,.. Yet the future first fist bumper proudly proclaimed way back when that she would not be supporting HRC if HRC had won the nomination.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

These Hillary supporters keep coming back every month with some stupid attitude FOR A week and then go away for a month again and then come back again It's like menstrual period. Does that ever stop? Geez, I hope elections don't fall on that week when it's; you know what! If we catch them at right time, they will vote for Obama, if we catch them at wrong "period", they will vote for McCain.

Posted by: OBGYN-Democrat | August 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

These pathetic morons would rather have the GOP keep control of the WH simply because they are sore losers. They are burning some serious bridges because Obama will win with or without them.

Posted by: HonestAbe | August 25, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I have it on good authority that the Clintons decided not to attend the Mile High Obama acceptance speech after their demands for throne chairs atop an end zone stage were turned down.
Their view was it the only way to promote healing and party unity among the Hillary masses.
Their plan was to let Obama get the nomination and speak from the 50-yard line, but the Clintons would get the coronation at the goal post.

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr. | August 25, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I take my voting privilege very seriously and I will not waste it voting for either Obama or McCain, even though I am a card-carrying Democrat. I don't think Obama is ready to be President as he does not have what it takes to be President. McCain, on the other hand, is an absolute nincompoop who does not deserve to follow the incumbent nincompoop. So, come election day, I will be happy that I did not contribute to the winner. Instead, I will pray for the Almighty to protect our country, and save us from ourselves.

Posted by: deepak | August 25, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I THINK IT'S HYSTERICAL THAT ALL THESE VERY YOUNG, KIDDIE SUPPORTERS OF OBAMA CAN'T CONCEIVE THAT OLDER FOLKS WHO MAYBE HAVE A CONCEPT ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT, WHO HAVE WORKED IN GOVT. OUR WHOLE CAREER, AND REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO TO GOVERN UNLESS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN DOING SO BY BEING A LONG-TERM LEGISLATOR, OR GOVERNOR OF A STATE OR EVEN MAYOR OF A LARGE CITY-THOSE OF US WHO DO UNDERSTAND THIS, KNOW THAT SOMEONE LIKE OBAMA WOULD BE AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER-WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT-AND SO, IF OUR OWN PARTY IS GOING TO BETRAY US, AND "DECIDE" COLLECTIVELY TO GO FOR SOMEONE WHO COULDN'T BE LESS QUALIFIED TO BE EVEN A MIDDLE MANAGER IN A GOVT. AGENCY THEN, THOSE MILLIONS OF US DEMS. ACROSS THE NATION ARE GOING TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTRY-AND WE KNOW THAT MCSAME IS FAR FROM AN IDEOLOGUE-IF HE WERE, HE WOULD NEVER HAVE VOTED FOR THE DEMOCRATIC SUPREME COURT JUSTICES THAT HE DID, WE KNOW MCSAME CAN BE TRUSTED TO KNOW HOW TO GET THINGS DONE-THERE WILL BE VERY LITTLE OJT FOR HIM-AND BESIDES, HE'S GOT A BRILLIANT FORMER GOV. OF MASS. TO ASSIST HIM-THE REPUB. TICKET COULDN'T BE MORE QUALIFIED, NOR MORE MODERATE THAN IT IS-I COULD NEVER VOTE FOR THEM OTHERWISE.

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

BOBSTER: nice try! With all the 'piss' and 'shut up' and 'hell', you really make an eloquent case for Obama !! This is what his campaign is about : my way or highway. See you all in 2012 when Hillary will fight McCain.

Posted by: Sen | August 25, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Operation Chaos marches on...this is soooo much fun.

Posted by: Mohawk6thNation | August 25, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I have it on good authority that the Clintons decided not to attend the Mile High Obama acceptance speech after their demands for throne chairs atop an end zone stage were turned down.
Their view was it the only way to promote healing and party unity among the Hillary masses.
Their plan was to let Obama get the nomination and speak from the 50-yard line, but the Clintons would get the coronation in the end zone.

Posted by: JMFulton, Jr. | August 25, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"to believe that you are not an Obamabot who is being paid to write this stuff" Nice try GOP troll. **SMACK!!*** Begone lying filth.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Hilary Clinton and her neurotic, cheesecake-eating housewife supporters are the world's biggest weenies. Clinton deserved to lose. She had all the advantages and bungled her campaign beyond anyone's worst nightmare. She blew it. Had she somehow pulled out the nomination, she would have gone on to royally screw up the presidential election.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

To all Hillary supporters;

Why not Obama? What is your problem with Obama? He is democrat, he has been consistent, he has vice president that could bring America back on the feet and Obama is very liked abroad, even in middle east. Doesn't it sound like good future to you. I think you are those type of Americans that nobody likes, the hardheaded one with dissease of selective hearing. You can't jus vote for McCain because you are pissed off, well if that is the case, you should have done that as first choice or just vote for the third party. Need some answers from you!!! If you have a good legitimate reasons, maybe I will vote for McCain, but if you don't, shut the hell up.

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 25, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain has so much wealth he has no concept of money—unless of course it's money from lobbyists and corporations or to buy more mansions. That's why at the Saddleback forum McCain ludicrously declared it takes $5 million to move from "middle class" to "rich." That's why he admitted economics isn't his strong suit and came up with a plan to sink our country even further into debt. And that's why he can't sympathize with Americans facing foreclosure, soaring gas prices, unemployment, and the daunting costs of health insurance. None of these problems register when you're living in a solid gold bubble like McCain, or however many gold bubbles he's living in.

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/49690-poor-little-rich-man-mccain-can-t-remember-how-many-mansions-he-has
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Posted by: It's time to end the Republican Fascist ruling of America | August 25, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

"good riddance to the Hillary democrats who are whining and threatening to vote McSame. " Nope, these are Republicans pretending to be ticked off Hillary voters. One of Rove's more well worn items from his back of dirty tricks.

Posted by: Mark | August 25, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Take notice, all you sour-grapes Hillary-ites: If she doesn't support Barack 110% and/or if her supporters abandon him in this election, she can kiss her political future goodbye. That will be a political sin which will not be forgotten or forgiven.

Posted by: Tony in Idaho | August 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen a larger bunch of sore losers than I have this election with the Clinton supporters. Whether Obama wins or loses in November, the nation owes a debt of gratitude to him for beating Senator Clinton for the nomination.

Go and read the Atlantic article about how badly she managed her campaign. Do we want that in the White House? Do we want a President who doesn't facilitate debate among advisors as much as allow disunity in the ranks?

Truth be told, personal politics aside, Senator Obama - by his choice of staff, his leadership with his campaign, his speechs, his strategy, etc. - ran the best campaign of the three candidates, took nothing for granted (especially the smaller caucus states), hit a bunch of singles and beat - not edge - Mrs. Clinton out of the race.

America will be a better place in November, because it's choice was between Obama and McCain. Though I disagree with both on certain areas of policy, I will have greater peace of mind knowing that either of them won ss opposed to McCain OR Clinton. If that were the case, I would have joined the McCain camp.

Posted by: fpr | August 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Dont know what the fake "Hillary voter" who want her to be sec of state thinks about an average Hillary voter.We are not idots like like you guys were making us to be during the primaries,to believe that you are not an Obamabot who is being paid to write this stuff.Your arrogant master did not even consider her VP though she had the support of half of the democratic party.She will never serve under your messiah even if he get elected(highly doubtful)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Outside the Box:

You obviously also believe it will rain monkeys if you demand it.
Dream on honey.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

The core of the problem is that Hillary is herself not very convincing. Few believe that she is truly behind Obama. And none believe that Bill respects Obama as a candidate, who beats his wife. So this whole show is just to play games, and treat everyone like fools.

If it has to take so much pampering to unit the party, sorry, that just proved that the resentment is so deep. They are spending so much time and effort at the convention, just to unit the party? All the hard feelings that led to this is not going to be erased by one convention or a few speeches. Hillary has been singing unity song since her defeat. Is it working? How can it work better this time? It is not how much Obama can accommodate the Hillary camp. It is how much the Hillary supporters can admit defeat, to a seemingly light weight figure who came out of nowhere. And this, strangely has nothing with McCain.

Posted by: indi | August 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Elizabeth:

Partison loyalties are determined in the voting booth, not in the primaries. At the end of the day, where you vote is where your loyalties lie. There is no middle ground.

True democrats, like true sports fans, stick with their team win or loose.

You don't support a Democratic agenda one day then a Republican one the next. That would be "Sybil-ish".

I feel that the Clinton supporters that hung tough with the party are the true Democratic warriers. The see the big picture.

The Average American people are not Barrack or McCain. They are working class people who believe in an agenda.

To day you are a Democrat then vote for John McCain is just like spitting in the face of those people. To include the poor who, generally, don't play a role in the political process, but whom depend on us to treat them with some humanity. I just don't see that in a Republican.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | August 25, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse


Mcain is a sellout, a paranoid self righteous angry old man shamefully pandering to the lowest common emotions in all people- fear of change and hatred of people seemingly different from ourselves. It doesn't surprise me that there is a segment of Hillary supporters that would be attracted to that platform. I agree with Deep Blue- good riddance to the Hillary democrats who are whining and threatening to vote McSame. If you cannot think past your own self interest then you really are, at heart, a republican. Embrace it. And take Joe Lieberman with you- he would be a superb vice president pick for McCain-a deeply paranoid pompous two faced war mongering coward. Good luck with that.

Obama 08


Posted by: change08 | August 25, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

No one ever said it was gonna be easy. The Clintons won't go away on their own or overtly endorse Obama, the media loves drama so they'll stoke the flames at every possibility and call it "news" (CNN becoming just like Fox when it comes to objectivity), McSame and the Bush leftovers will slime their way into public view by riding herd on this Dem party squabble, Repugs will acts as DINOs in order to cause fear in the blogosphere, etc, etc.

What Obama must realize is that change isn't gonna happen without a terrible fight, so he and Joe better bring it and bring it to the convention. Sadly, the convention can't be a celebration; it has to be the time when the gloves are taken off, when the *real* test begins.

Posted by: Kris | August 25, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow, "Alex" and "Elizabeth" too joined the ranks of GOP trolls pretending to be long time Democratic voters. This place is drowning in GOP BS. *Yawn* old tactic.... You guys getting paid to do this or is it something Rush broadcasted to do?

Posted by: Mark | August 25, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

GOOD ONE ALEX!-I TOO, BELIEVE IN REVENGE HERE-AND I'M TELLING OBAMA HAS HAD IT COMING-HE'S BEEN AS UGLY AS UGLY CAN BE TO HILLARY, ON THE OTHER HAND, MCAIN AND HILLARY, HAD THEY BEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES? WOULD HAVE HAD A BRILLIANT CAMPAIGN, NOT BASED ON PERSONALITIES-THEY WOULD HAVE FOUGHT HARD-DEMS. WOULD HAVE WON IT-BUT IT WOULD BE A CAMPAIGN BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT-BECAUSE THE TWO OF THEM ARE KNOWN IN CONGRESS TO BE QUITE FRIENDLY-THAT'S WHY I CAN GET BEHIND THE MCAIN/ROMNEY TICKET-AND I HOPE HRC AND BILL CLINTON WILL SECRETLY SABOTAGE THAT SOB OBAMA AS WELL!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Who are all these phony Hillary supporters? What a fraud. One can tell by reading the messages that they are Republicans trying to divide the Party.

To any *real* Hillary supporters who are miffed that she wasn't picked, that is absurd. To use a sports analogy, imagine 2 equally qualified players competing for the role of quarterback. Once one of them is selected as the starter the next step is to fill out the team with others who can help the quarterback. That is someone with different skills.

The VP is no longer one who does nothing but wait to see if the president is killed then steps in. Ever since Bill Clinton chose Al Gore, the VP has played an active role as partner.

Joe Biden is a great choice. Besides, he will be too old to run for president so Obama or his confidants will never have to wonder about ulterior motives. With Hillary, there would always be the second guessing as to her "real agenda."

Besides, now Obama can focus on the domestic front and Biden can be the foreign policy expert and the Washington insider who can get legislation approved.

Posted by: Tom Cooper | August 25, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

What would you expect to happen after the slighting of more than half the party by the chosen one and his equally arrogant supporter mob?Did they expect the convention to be coronation of the king in his court? Doesnt any one even remember what democracy means?

Posted by: SS | August 25, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I've been a supporter and admirer of both of the Clintons for as long as anyone I know, and would have voted whole-heartedly for Hillary if she had won the nomination. No matter HOW disappointed I am that she did not I'll be damned if I'll vote for McCain. That would be the same as endorsing my executioner's pay voucher. If you care at all for our own, and our children's future don't let the Republicans once again slip in through the back door. Hillary will (AND SHOULD) serve as Secretary of State. We all need her AND YOU !!

Posted by: Henry Landis | August 25, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

UH, SORRY ADAM-IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL MY POSTS-YOU'LL FIND THEY ARE CONSISTENT-I'VE BEEN A DEM. ALL MY LIFE, AND I'M CROSSING OVER FOR MCSAME, BECAUSE I KNOW THE MCCAIN/ROMNEY TICKET IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE TWO DEM. KNUCKLEHEADS, AND I CARE MORE ABOUT MY COUNTRY THAN TO PUT KNUCKLEHEADS AT THE HEAD OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SUPERPOWER!

WHAT'S THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE, ANYWAY? I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

That's exactly how alot of Hillary supporters feel. They are justified. Senator Obama cannot even bring his own party together, how can he bring republicans over???

Posted by: charlieb | August 25, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse


.
Hillary supporters will certainly get behind the hussein campaign --- to push it off a cliff!

We Hillary supporters will do everything possible to ensure defeat for that Kerry-like shallow, arrogant, platitude-spouting, elitist, inexperienced, narcissistic, flip-flopping gas-bag - who is so mentally deficient from extensive drug use he even has to plagiarize his hollow platitudes, and who hijacked the nomination with fewer votes than Hillary received.

Hillary supporters won't get mad; we will get even.

Best of luck, "sweetie" hussein and plagiarist joe!

/

Posted by: ALEX H. | August 25, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Clinton supporter who has been so turned off by Obama supporters that I'll either sit out the election or vote McCain. Sometimes values and perceptions of how we're treated really do trump economic interests.

Posted by: Elizabeth | August 25, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The above comments are from the party of "change"...what a sad state of affairs. I have never voted for a republican presidential candidate....but I will this time. It is about judgement. Senator Obama is so pomp"ass" that he would sell his party short rather than try everything to unify it. NO THANKS. He made the wrong call. I think alot of Senator Biden, and think he was right when he said he stood by his statement that Senator Obama was not ready to lead. I don't think so either. Senator Biden should have stuck with his gut feeling, it was the right one.

Posted by: kt | August 25, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

This guy Spring Rain is a closet Republican hack, trying to detail United democratic party. Democrates need to keep reminding themslevs of GOP smear tactic. Last time I checked, Clintons were the most hated among GOP. I did not forget what Mccain said about Chelsea Clinton. Suddenly they are weeping for Hillary????


Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:32 PM

This independent wanted to vote for the Democrat but the one nominated is not qualified for the office. Hillary was qualified but got stiffed. McCain gets my vote. He is qualified.


Posted by: Adam Habib Dallas, TX | August 25, 2008 3:37 PM

Posted by: Adam Habib Dallas, TX | August 25, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I TELL YOU PELOSI AND DEAN OUGHT TO BE RUN OUT OF TOWN ON A RAIL-WORTHLESS WORTHLESS WORTHLESS-THEY DON'T LEARN, AFTER 8 YEARS DO THEY? THEY HAVE YET ANOTHER LOSING SLATE-AND NO ONE WILL DESERVE THE INSULTS AND MUD-SLINGING AFTER ANOTHER DEM. LOSS OCCURS THIS NOVEMBER THAN DICTATORETTE PELOSI-I HAVE NO WORDS TO EXPRESS MY CONTEMPT FOR HER UTTER INCOMPETENCE!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Goldfinger:

It is EXPECTED that you would vote Republican. Most Independents I know are the Lou Dobbs conservative types anyway. They really aren't nor have they EVER been "on the fence".

Michael Bloomberg, a former Republican, is now Independent. Unless he has run off and been "reborn" we can assume that he holds true to his GOP ideas. Same with Lou Dobbs.

Using your "independent" status as a form of punishment against the Democrats makes you look fickle. Either you support the Democratic platform or not. It is not something that changes from day to day. An Independent who votes Republican when there is a Independent Candidate running as well is just plain "confused".

Posted by: VoiceOfReason | August 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

the clintons should come with a bathroom exhaust fan attached to them. this is what is needed when you have two turds in the bowl that won't flush. and they leave an obstinate fecal smear at the bottom of the bowl. this is the essence of clintie filth

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

NO MY MIND WAS MADE UP WHEN OBAMA CHOSE JOE BIDEN AND WHEN NEWS CAME OUT THAT HE NEVER EVEN VETTED MRS. CLINTON... THAT IS THE DAY I MADE UP MY MIND THAT obama is not a man about UNITY. I don't understand why hillary supporters HAVE ANY REASON TO VOTE for obama. The VP PICK CONTINUES TO SHOW the arrogance of the DNC and Obama. That is why i won't vote Democrat. I RATHER VOTE for McCain.

McCain 08

Posted by: QUENTIN | August 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

goldfinger, that's fine. But all polls show that Obama generally has a much large appeal to independent voters than Clinton does. So for each of you, there's 1.5 who would have voted Republican had Hillary been the candidate.

Posted by: drossless | August 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a hen-pecked girly man who doesn't represent GOP values. All the garbage he's flip flopped on recently is just to get elected. He's a closet Democrat who will stab us in the back after he's elected. Why do you think they call McCain a "maverick" - because he not only votes with Democrats, he tried to run with Kerry in 2004. The man has no family values at all - an opportunistic serial adulterer. He called Christians "agents of intolerance" and is PRO LIFE!! Everything he said at SaddleBack was rehearsed pandering BS. Bob Barr is a REAL CONSERVATIVE. Vote for Bob Barr!!

Posted by: BobBarr08 | August 25, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Forty years of voting Democratic and what do I have to show for it - Jimmy Carter?

Bill Clinton is hated because he went to the middle and won.

MSNBC/DailyKos/HuffintonPost/MoveOn/Kennedy,Kerry, Daschle, Et al - leave my party alone! And now we are being introduced to another loser - Barack Obama.

Posted by: Fred C Dobbs | August 25, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I can say the Dems unity is amusing at best, especially since my side was supposed to have the bitter primary this time. There are Clinton people who will vote for McCain over Obama, my roommate and grandparents are examples of it. I always have been a Republican and always will be so I'm not hiding my identity.

Posted by: TexasProud | August 25, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

we need a fresh breeze to purge the atmosphere of clintie stench. that's what happens when turds won't flush

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 25, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I'ma da JakeD . .
I'ma da JakeD . .
I'ma da JakeD . .
JakeD, JakeD, JakeD . .

Aww yeah,
Aw yeah,
Aww yeah, yeah, yeah. . .

You fear me,
You clearly,
Cant stand me,

Ima like-a mole,
Who'se on parole,
But I aint selling ma soul,

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Ha HA HA! CAPTAIN JOHN, WELL, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT TRUE, IS IT? BUT I GUESS YOU'RE TOO DUMB TO FIGURE THAT OUT-HA HA HA!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This independent wanted to vote for the Democrat but the one nominated is not qualified for the office. Hillary was qualified but got stiffed. McCain gets my vote. He is qualified.

Posted by: goldfinger | August 25, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

RobinChester, Slate was referring to Democrats who won't vote for Obama. If you disagree with all his policies, you're clearly a Republican or something even further to the right of that, so the criticism does not apply.

The quandary is why someone who disagrees with all McCain's policies and agrees with all of Obama's would nevertheless vote for McCain. It's hard not to attribute that to some sort of deep-seated pre-rational bias.

Posted by: drossless | August 25, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Ron J,

The people in this area got the message at 1am, not 3am. Not to mention 3am isn't at the same time everywhere in the country. I'm sure the campaign set the program to start sending and people got their messages at varying times throughout the night depending on their service provider and so on. There's no need to read slights into everything where there aren't any. And if Obama supporters are being rude to Clinton supporters, I am sure the rudeness is mutual. People are just ugly sometimes, but Clinton and Obama supporters aren't Clinton and Obama. Listen to what THEY say for heaven's sake, not the latest conspiracy theory and blogger trying to perpetuate the drama.

Posted by: Gina | August 25, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING-AND IT JUST SHOWS HOW WEIRD THE OBAMABOTS ARE, THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY INCONCEIVABLE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO VOTE FOR THE OPPOSING PARTY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT THE MCCAIN/ROMNEY TICKET IS FAR BETTER PREPARED TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY THAN THOSE TWO DEM. LOSER KNUCKLEHEADS.

ALL THE DEMS. I PERSONALLY KNOW, INCLUDING MYSELF, WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT DEAD VOTING FOR SOMEONE WHO HAD DONE NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING, HIS ENTIRE LIFE EXCEPT EFF OFF, REMEMBER OBAMA DOESN'T DO "DIFFICULT" IF IT'S DIFFICULT IT GETS PASSED OFF TO HIS UNDERLINGS-HE'S HAD JOBS HANDED TO HIM ON A SILVER PLATTER-STATE SENATOR AND US SENATOR-AND HE HASN'T DONE A DAMN THING IN EITHER ONE OF THEM-HE COULDN'T EVEN BE RESPECTED AND GAINED SOME EXPERIENCE IN HIS OWN PROFESSION-LAWYER-HE WAS NEVER A TRIAL LAWYER, (TOO HARD!) AND HE WAS NEVER A PARTNER IN A LAW FIRM-THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH HARD WORK! LAW PROFESSOR? HA HA HA! YEAH, THAT REALLY PREPARES YOU TO BE PRESIDENT, DOESN'T IT? BUT EVEN THERE, HE NEVER PUBLISHED ONE ARTICLE-AGAIN, TOO LAZY! OBAMA HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, CREATING JOBS (NOR, FOR THAT MATTER HAS HIS LIGHTWEIGHT SIDEKICK-WHOSE SENATE SEAT HAS NOW OSSIFIED HE'S BEEN SITTING IN IT FOR SO LONG) NEVER HELD A COMMAND, NEVER PUSHED THROUGH IMPORTANT LEGISLATION-NOTHING-NADA-ZERO!

I TELL YOU, WHEN THIS ELECTION IS OVER, PEOPLE WILL SUDDENLY COME OUT OF THEIR BRAINWASHED STATE AND GO-HOW COULD WE EVEN HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT EVER PUTTING SOMEONE LIKE THAT AS HEAD OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SUPERPOWER? IT AIN'T HAPPENING!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I didn't realize that Slate was a being paid by Obama 08 to represent their views *sarcasm*.

Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Clintonistas are skipping the Obama acceptance speech. This means more room for REAL Democrats and supporters.
They will not be missed.

Posted by: TJ IN LA | August 25, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Quentin, you had your mind made up long before Obama won the primary. You never intended to vote Democratic. If you GOP trolls are gonna keep pretending to be Democrats, maybe we should pretend to be Ron Paul or Bob Barr supporters. Go to it Dems, spam the blogs with anti-McCain, pro Libertarian rage!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I think the most interesting thing I heard today was on a Podcast from Slate that said if I voted against Obama, then I was a racist and trapped in the Cold War. What if I don't vote for him because I don't think he is prepared or has the experience or I disagree with what little substantive plans he has made for policies and those I have listened to, I disagree with. It is an interesting campaign tactic, Voting against Obama=Racist.

Posted by: RobinChester | August 25, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Bonding? Like some magic words and fairy dust will help? Releasing of the delegates. What an insulting concept. For delegates who can't think for themselves, go ahead and follow the Pied Piper over the cliff. But there are better choices. Do what you want, follow blindly or not. And I'll do what I want in two months.

Posted by: Tired | August 25, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Anybody in PUMA who hasn't caught on that PUMA is a Republican organization is downright oblivious to reality.

In politics, there is no lower form than a spoiler. Its not for anything or anybody. Its only pleasure is others pain.

Spoilers are the rodents of politics.

Posted by: Judie | August 25, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"I will vote McCain in November, and you can believe i'm not Republican."

You are what you vote.

Posted by: drossless | August 25, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

the air in denver will stink less the more clintie filth leaves town

Posted by: dick cabesa | August 25, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Sha, I am 100% behind you on your comments. I have huge respect for the Clinton supporters that have the courage and integrity to remain loyal to the party. Hillary got into this campaign behind a Democratic platform that has backed both she and her husband for many, many years. Their loyalties remain there; with the party.

We don't worship "people" in the Democratic party, we support an agenda. I don't see how someone who supported anything that Hillary campaigned about could think once of voting for a party that she and her husband diametrically opposes in every way, form or fashion. It is a affront to everthing that she stands and stood for. It is an affront to the Democratic party and an affront to those American's who truely believe in the party platform.

I am of the working class, but I am sure to have my dollar rolled back even further under another Republican adminstration. I would only hope that her supporters can focus on the average American Democrat, and not the candidate and recommit themselves to those people, to the party, to what the party stands for.

Posted by: Ward6FNow | August 25, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

NO ONE IS CHANGING ANY ONE ELSE'S MIND! We should all just vote our heart and STFU.

Posted by: for Obama all the way | August 25, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Spring Rain just exposed himself as a Republican pretending to be Democrat. Any other GOP trolls out there want to come out of the closet?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't find the ALL CAPS only annoying, I just skip over them and don't read the post.

If you have to 'yell,' you don't really want a dialogue and all you want to do is scream. Not a good strategy.

That said, spring rain, fix your keyboard and stop yelling. As no one is listening to you.

Posted by: Captain John | August 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Thank God the staffers are leaving after Bill's speech. I'm a black male and i'm so outdone by the DNC, o now Florida and Michigan has full voting rights, after the primaries. Howard Dean and everyone of those members of the DNC should all be fired. The democractic party has lost a member. I choose to be independent now, but I will vote McCain in November, and you can believe i'm not Republican.

Posted by: Epluribus | August 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"And don't think EVERYONE was fooled by that release of Biden's name at 3 am by phone-text, Hillary supporters (most of em anyway) totaly understood THAT slap in the face."

Did it ever occur to you that mass mailings are best done in the middle of the night when networks are least trafficked?

-

Posted by: The Uncreated | August 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

JUST LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN OBAMA ALREADY HAD HIS MIND MADE UP THAT HE WAS NOT CHOOSING HILLARY FOR VP.. I HAVE ALREADY MADE MY MIND AND WILL VOTE MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT.. THERE IS NO REASON TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO IS CLEARLY SHOWING NO SIGNS OF UNITY.. THIS IS DEMOCRACY AT ITS BEST... vOtE McCAIN 08

Posted by: QUENTIN | August 25, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Vote for whom you will.
Civility. Show some.

Posted by: Robbie | August 25, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

aaahhh a lively blog this is... I must say that in all of the Polls I have seen that predict Mccain having a split chance of winning over Obama are odd. I have yet to take a poll or to be asked what I want, or who I will vote for. As well all of my friends, colleagues and family. Someone on CNN mentioned that I might not be asked to take a poll since my home phone usually rings without my answer or for that matter I use my cell phone more often. Have you been called to take a poll yet? I sure haven't... and I am dying to take one so I can tell them to start asking cellular users about Polls. Then you will see some accurate results.

Posted by: Obaminee' | August 25, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"But he said in an interview that it would be unrealistic to expect there would not still be some tension between the two camps -- he noted that the same was true with supporters of Gary Hart and, to a lesser extent, Howard Dean."

Yes, and look how well those elections turned out for the Democrats.

Posted by: RollaMO | August 25, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody else find the All Caps posts annoying? I don't care what side of the issue you are on, it comes off as yelling, and it gets you nowhere

Posted by: TexasProud | August 25, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Spring Rain -

One, Florida and Michigan are getting full votes.

Two, I don't believe your claim that you're a lifelong Dem. Just another Republican trying to stir the pot.

Three, your CAPS LOCK key is stuck. You should see about getting your keyboard fixed.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 25, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree McCain is running his campaign the way he'd run the country. McCain has no executive experience. (Something Wes Clark pointed out.) So if we look to McCain's campaign for clues as to how he'll govern, we find that his most effective ad is frivolous, his attitude is largely negative, and he likes to meddle in things he should stay out of (Hillary Clinton ad). In addition, McCain's letting the Rovian wing of the GOP run the show. Bluster boy doesn't understand the internet or the economy. He lives in a black and white world; a country is good or bad, right or wrong. He has demonstrated he doesn't do nuance. What a horrid diplomat he'd make. Yes, John McCain would be as successful as George Bush. Just look at his campaign.

Posted by: Ceee | August 25, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

With 85% of the country sure we are on the wrong path Obama can only manage a tie with "McSame"?? He should be 15 - 20 % up by now...

No wonder the cultists are on the attack - it's all Hillary and her supporters fault! They are just evil racists!

What a bunch of dorks - this is how they are going to bring the party together? Obama the uniter - yea - he can't even unite the democratic party behind him - Heck he can't even get his people to stop the attacks on the Clintons - how lame is that?

And they keep on attacking the Clintons - hey morons your running against McSame now - not the Clintons and her supporters.

Tell me again why I should vote for the Obama?

Posted by: Zgooch | August 25, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Zogby just updated its online polls and gives leads of 8% and more to Obama in North Carolina, Pennsylvania, New Mexico... In more traditionall surveys, Obama leads in Colorado but it's tied in MI, OH and VA. Full roundup: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/08/25/monday-polls-2/

Posted by: Dan | August 25, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Ted Kennedy is uniquely suited to end this intraparty feud.He will say tonight that his ego to become president in 1980 not only caused Jimmy Carter to lose the election but ushered in consrvative rule for the next 12 years.As his prognosis seems dire he could call Jimmy Carter on to the stage and apologize publically for his lack of judgment.He could remind the audience of Bobby Kennedy who fought for civil rights and who was one who gave his life for a cause bigger than himself....

Posted by: joseph marcucill
_______________________________________

The problem with this is that it is revisionist history of which Goebbels would be proud. Kennedy was drafted by Dems who saw that Carter was headed to doom, and dragging the party with him. Then Carter ran a cowardly, dirty campaign, hiding in the Rose Garden so he wouldn't face scrutiny while his minions dragged up every slander and dirty trick they could think of. Carter's surrogates called Kennedy everything but a child of God and Carter _personally_ vowed to kick Ted Kennedy's "a$$".

Kennedy was WELL within his rights to withhold his active support; he believed, correctly, that Carter was compromising basic Dem party principles. Then, when Carter ran a HORRIBLE campaign, got used and abused at the debate (remember "there he goes again"? Political rope-a-dope) and was left babbling about talking nukes with Amy, he blamed, not himself, but Kennedy.

Carter should be happy that Bush as retired the title of "Worst US President of Modern Times", because up to the last few years, Carter owned it, hands down. If you hated Reagan (and I, for one, loved the man), blame Carter, who put ambition above party and country, not Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: gbooksdc | August 25, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama isn't qualified. Clinton is. Nobody who wants a qualified president cares if Obama is a Democrat. That still doesn't make him qualified.

There's nothing here to "get over." The better candidate wasn't nominated. We won't support the unqualified one. If people want to vote for Obama, no one is stopping them. Just as they can't stop a lot of us from voting for McCain.

All of the name calling, threats, insults, condescension and race-baiting sure isn't helping their cause or their candidate.

Posted by: Lynn | August 25, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

P.S. And despite what Bill and Hillary said, I believe, that when both of them go in to pull the lever-THEY'LL PULL IT FOR MCCAIN AS WELL-BECAUSE HILLARY AND MCCAIN ARE GREAT FRIENDS-THEY RESPECT EACH OTHER ENORMOUSLY-DON'T FORGET MCSAME ACTUALLY VOTED FOR BOTH CLINTON NOMINEES FOR THE SUPREME COURT-GINSBERG AND BREYER-AND ROMNEY? THE BRILLIANT ONE, WHO GRADUATED WITH AN ASTONISHING DOUBLE JD IN LAW WITH HONORS FROM HARVARD LAW AND A MASTER'S IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AS A BAKER SCHOLAR-HOW DO YOU GRADUATE WITH BOTH THOSE DEGREES AND BOTH WITH HONORS? I TELL YOU HOW-YOU GOTTA BE BRILIANT-THAT'S HOW! AND THIS REPUBLICAN GOV. OF THE STATE OF MASS. ACTUALLY REQUIRED HEALTH CARE INSURANCE FOR ALL CITIZENS OF MASS-DOESN'T SOUND SO BLOODY AWFUL TO ME, SINCE THAT IS ONE OF MY MAJOR CAMPAIGN ISSUES-HEALTH INSURANCE FOR EVERYONE! I PUT MY FAITH IN THE BRILLIANT MITT ROMNEY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN, ON THAT ISSUE AND PARTICULARLY, ON THE ECONOMY-ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN THE CEO OF SEVERAL SUCCESSFUL FINANCIAL INVESTMENT COMPANIES OUGHT TO BE QUITE CAPABLE THERE-TO ME, THERE'S NO CONTEST -GO MCCAIN/ROMNEY-DEMS WILL BE CROSSING BY THE MILLIONS TO VOTE FOR YOU!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Feedback from the convention suggests Obama people are already being rude and ungracious toward Hillary supporters. And don't think EVERYONE was fooled by that release of Biden's name at 3 am by phone-text, Hillary supporters (most of em anyway) totaly understood THAT slap in the face. Ironically Hillary & Obama are very much alike in that its all about them. Pass the popcorn, George!

Posted by: Ron J | August 25, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Date:Monday Aug 25,2008
Time:2:13PM

Please be advise that I intend to help PUMA ..keep their promise, (NO Obama) should President Bush & Administration not cancel the general election in the name of war and terror on it's own U.S. citizens.

Sincerely,

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Posted by: EmmeryJonesJr Medical Record's Admin.CCS-P | August 25, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Deep Blue,

I hear what you are saying, and I would say its 60-40 Obama wins this time too. However, I think the youth vote and the black vote will make a marginal difference at best. The youth vote is unpredictable at best, and I would know, I'm in my mid-20s myself. The black vote will be 90-94% democratic like every election, and it's not as if the Republicans are running Jesse Helms. In reality, we are still a 45%-45% divide with a handful of tossup states deciding the outcome. The Dems will get 5 more senate seats with victories in Alaska, New Hampshire, Viginia, New Mexico, and probably Colorado (though we could see Lieberman flip if Reid strips him of his committee chairmanship). Th oughObama will probably get Iowa, New Mexico and Colorado are tossups. There have been a number of polls with McCain ahead in both (yes there are also polls with him trailing as well). That also assumes that Obama doesn't lose Michigan, New Hampshire or Pennsylvania.

Posted by: TexasProud | August 25, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I really, really don't understand you Hillary supporters. Do you really think you're teaching someone a lesson? Do you really think that by spitting on Hillary's request to vote for Obama you are somehow doing her a favor? Do you really think your going to "teach the DNC a lesson"? Do you really think voting for a man who cares nothing about you, will pander for your votes whatever way he can, who will continue this country's trip down the toilet will do any of us any good? Is trying to make the rest of the country hurt and suffer because of your misguided spite and need for revenge really what you want to do? You're not going to hurt them, you're going to hurt us...you know the little guys. You know, the ones who aren't politicians and made of money. Maybe you can afford 4 more years of torture in the off chance that Hillary may get a second shot but some of us out there really, really can't. Grow up, swallow your misguided loyalty - stop being so angry in her name to the point that you will disrespect her own words and wishes. No wonder we're in trouble - none of you can get past yourselves and your "outrage" to think of the whole country. Come November if the winner is pronounced McCain - you can say you won your war against the DNC and Obama - but will you have really have won anything at all? 4 more years of Republican rule...maybe you can swallow it but this newly struggling family of 4 might not make it to 2012 and we won't be saying thank you for your trouble.

Posted by: Sha | August 25, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

That's right America,,,for whatever reason Reid chose Obama to compete with H.Clinton makes this compaign look like the Bush/Gore campaign all over again..When I saw Bush give his debates with Gore, I saw nothing but arogance, cockiness and premature knowingness of winning...The DNC and news media has placed obama on such a high platitude that he looks like he IS the president already..A true misleading interpretation of this whole presidential campaign..I see it as racial beause of all the comments made in the media as well in the stores and streets that the black people are told to vote for Obama regardless if there they would prefer H.Clinton...My vote is for experience because thanks to Bush and his cabinet,our country and world friendships have been an experience of tag war, no fair game and deprevation of our country..I can"t believe our country hasn't grown. With all the books written about our past history, you'd think Americans would see through the hyperbole said today about the promises being made..again and again...Wake up America...don"t give the power to someone who will be another on the job training president...

Posted by: nameless | August 25, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

timeforchangeinamerica:

It is shortsighted, ignorant and hateful people like you who are the ones responsible for the former Clinton supporters not comming on board to support the Obama.

Your continued hate filled and ignorant attacks on the Clintons and their supporters drives more and more of them away each time you open up your big mouth.

So I suggest if you really want Obama to win you should shut your mouth - if that is possible...fool

Posted by: Zgooch | August 25, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Horace:

That was the fake JakeD at 3:03 PM.

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Who cares!

Posted by: Mark Gillis | August 25, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey BB-IF CERTAIN STATES HAD NOT BEEN EXCLUDED FROM THE TOTAL DELEGATE COUNT-NO, OBAMA WOULD NOT BE THE EFF OFF DEM. CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. IT'S SIMPLE AS THAT-HE DID NOT WIN A FAIR DELEGATE COUNT-IF HE HAD, I MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS-BUT HE DIDN'T. AND MORE TO THE POINT, COULDN'T.

AND I HAPPEN TO SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT MCCAIN/ROMNEY IS SO FAR SUPERIOR A TICKET IT'S NOT AN ISSUE-IN EVERY WAY THEY BLOW OBAMA BIN BIDEN OUT OF THE WATER-MITT ROMNEY IS NOTHING SHORT OF BRILLIANT-AND MCCAIN'S MEASURED RESPONSE TO THE RUSSIA ISSUE, WHICH SHOWED HE WASN'T A DOLT LIKE BIDEN, WHO FLEW IMMEDIATELY TO GEORGIA TO BE AT THAT KOOKY PRES. OF GEORGIA' SIDE-SHOWED ME HE HAD A LOT MORE RESTRAINT AND PERSPECTIVE THAN THE PLAGIARING LIGHTWEIGHT BIDEN.

I'VE NEVER VOTED REPUBLICAN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE- BUT I AM NOW! AND PLEASED, VERY PLEASED TO DO SO!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

joseph marcucilli and michaelben:

It's not just the GOP who want to overturn Roe v. Wade.

http://www.democratsforlife.org/

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"ALL THE MILLIONS WHO WOULD HAVE GONE FOR HILLARY ARE GOING FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE WE LIKE MCSAME" **SMACK** That's for pretending to be a Democrat you lying GOP troll. **SMACK** **PUNT** And that's for insulting those of us who voted for Clinton and would NEVER vote for McSame, even if our party ran Donald Duck. Pathetic you guys! Clinton and Obama stand for progress, not status quo under McSame.

Posted by: JillR | August 25, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

God - what FUNKY attitudes among supposed members of the same party. Why can't you freakin' get over it so that the Dems can move forward with ONE AGENDA - to WIN the November Election?!?!

Or was this more about having a WHITE WOMAN 'Democrat' in the White House before a BLACK MALE?

What a sorry bunch of losers - Excellent Example for children everywhere- and tomorrows leaders!!

Posted by: God_Bless_America | August 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I follow this:

Obama supporters are calling Clinton supporters memebrs of "the cult of personality"? REALLY

Clinton supporters shoul "get over it" and support Obama, or Obama supporters will "remember it" and vote against Clinton in 2012. REALLY

Keep calling the Clinton supporters names - best way to promote "unity" REALLY

Posted by: pk | August 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Horace,

Do us all a favour and STFU!

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Surprise, surprise! Suddenly the media finds Clintons so important. They vilified the Clintons during the primaries and gave a pass for Obama on all his gaffes and Past history
Now suddenly, they find Obama not up to the task. It is the MSM which has screwed up badly and anoited "the one" on democratic party. An election which should have been a cake walk for Dems has been turned upside down by the likes of Chris Mathews, David Schuster, Brian Williams, Tim Russert, Eugene Robinson, Maureen Dowd. Republicans must be really thankfull to these idiots who helped them to win the WH

Posted by: BJ | August 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Any convention that produces a candidate not named Barack Obama would break the Dem Party into a thousand pieces. The constituency that has more or less held together since the 30s would be shattered. Blacks would boycott the ticket this year and for election cycles to come. You'd probably see a third party of blacks and progressive Dems.

Bitter Hillary partisans might be 30% of the Dem base, but HRC will not be on the scene forever. Blacks are 25% of the Dem base, and they will be black forever. Blacks are tired of waiting, and progressives are tired of waiting. They've swallowed the "hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" since 1992? 1976? 1968? take your pick. And now that it is time for the moderate Dems to "hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" -- the same line they've used to hold power for generations with support of voters who would have preferred a more liberal candidate -- what a surprise, they'd rather vote GOP.

For my country's sake, I hope Obama wins. But for mischief's sake, I'd love to see bitter feminists elect a McCain, who'd return the favor by electing a Supreme Court that would turn women back into broodmares -- because only a radically increased birthrate will keep whites in power. Then there would be an HRC candidacy in 2012 -- doomed to failure because blacks would remember how she let Obama lose in 08 and return the favor. I've always thought blacks were too slavish in their support of Dems, anyway. If blacks are political free agents? It would be a new day!

Posted by: gbooksdc | August 25, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

-Outside the Box- more aptly named -Outta My Mind-

or -Wishful Thinking-

or -GOP Bot-

*yawn*

Posted by: KThxBye! | August 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

What a forum! Who wants to see or hear one of the Clintons with their sour grapes and divisiveness at this stage of the game? The Hildabeast lost the majority of delegates in the primaries and that is that. It's over. The nominee is Obama. The Clintons and their diehard minions can go take a cold shower. They need it. It is very obvious that Hillary is hoping against hope that Obama will go down to defeat in November so that the party will turn to her next time around when the electorate is even sicker of Republican mismanagement of the economy, the war, health care, and a host of other issues. I'm not a Democrat and I'd never vote for either Bill or Hillary Clinton or think they did much good for the country when they were in power. However, I WILL vote for Obama because I recognize that we do need to get the Republicans out of the White House now and I hope he doesn't disappoint me. Why bend over backwards to court Clinton voters who intend to vote for McCain and risk alienating independents who support and have spoken up for Obama? It's stupid.

Posted by: Horace | August 25, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons and their supporters really just have to move on at some point. Are they all unfamiliar with the concept of a "sore loser"?

Obama didn't start his campaign for a few months of kicks. Like Clinton, he started it in order to win, and as it turns out, he did. It's time for Clinton supporters to take a deep breath and realize that everyone in the race was out to win. That was the point. They're showing poor sportsmanship in a way.

Posted by: BB | August 25, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I am JakeD, HEAR MY ROOOAAAAARRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS SHOWING SOMETHING THAT SEEMED TO BE SEVERELY LACKING IN THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN STAFF- LOYALTY!!!--TELL THE ARROGANT SOB WHAT YOU REALLY THINK OF HIM AND HIS NO-EXPERIENCE, EFF OFF ALL HIS LIFE WAYS-AND SHOW THAT DUMB LITTLE BEATCH PATTI SOLIS DOYLE WHAT YOU THINK OF HER AS WELL-GOOD JOB CLINTON STAFFERS-I APPROVE OF YOUR ABSENCE-YOU MUST DO THIS! AND REMEMBER-WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA-WE ARE VOTING THE MCCAIN/ROMNEY TICKET-ALL THE MILLIONS WHO WOULD HAVE GONE FOR HILLARY ARE GOING FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE WE LIKE MCSAME-WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT LEADERSHIP OR ANYTHING ELSE BEING COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE WORLD'S ONLY SUPERPOWER-OBAMA-COMMANDER IN CHIEF-OH MY GOD! THAT SENDS CHILLS DOWN MY SPINE-OF HORROR!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 25, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Michael,

There are a few Clinton supporters who will stay at home in November, but after 8 years of disastrous GOP policies, ONLY the Republicans pretending to be Democrats will vote for McCain. Just an attempt at media manipulation.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Ted Kennedy is uniquely suited to end this intraparty feud.He will say tonight that his ego to become president in 1980 not only caused Jimmy Carter to lose the election but ushered in consrvative rule for the next 12 years.As his prognosis seems dire he could call Jimmy Carter on to the stage and apologize publically for his lack of judgment.He could remind the audience of Bobby Kennedy who fought for civil rights and who was one who gave his life for a cause bigger than himself.He can remind them that McCain seems compelled to return to the draft so he can go to war with Iran and to start once again the cold war with Russia.By his own admission McCain is a Federalist who will appoint judges only Ann Coulter could love and overturn Roe V Wade.He can remind Hillary's people that if they vote for McCain 47 million people will still be waiting for health care and jobs will still be shipped to China.So you got even people by enlisting your children to another war and continuing the occupation of Iraq and leaving your children to a hopeless world filled with pollution ,and suffering.Thanks .

Posted by: joseph marcucilli | August 25, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

TexasProud,

We may be looking at a similar electoral map this year, but McCain is running his campaign the way he would run the country and he unilaterally disarmed in Iowa (ethanol) and it looks like he's lost the plot in Colorado and New Mexico (water rights).

Kerry's 252 EVs + Iowa + NM + Colorado = Obama victory.

And that's not even taking into account historical turnout for young and black voters. No polls are looking at that, but it's an extra 5%- and will make the difference for democrats to win 60 senate seats. All those new young and black voters in Georgia, Mississippi, No Cackalacky, and Minnesota will be punching DEM, straight down the ticket. And the latin vote is increasing, and going 65-35 to Obama.

The trend is not your friend on this one!

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Brenda, and all of the rest of the HRC voters who will vote McCain instead of Obama. I will think of all of you all each and everytime McCain appoints a Supreme Court justice.

Posted by: michaelben | August 25, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Democrat healthcare reform means mediocre care for everybody.

Posted by: Stick | August 25, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

Obama did not "support" Hillary's gas tax holidy.

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ ExxonMcCain. Brutal but true.
8 years of corruption and duplicity up and down the entire spectrum of Republican politics.

And to whoever is flooding the comment page with the right wing propaganda - ask your mom where the caps lock key is.

Posted by: Jh Atlanta, GA | August 25, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I have to say it's amusing that more and more Clinton supporters are breaking away from Obama, and the Messiah is in full panic. In reality though, as much as I would love to see the Democratic party crumble, you are just having a number of republicans and republican-leaning voters who only voted for Clinton because McCain had already clinched the GOP nomination. Obama wasn't going to win Kentucky, Florida or West Virgina anyways, and probably won't win Ohio either. Even with a lameduck President, the nation is still near the same divide of the past eight years, with some states moving one way or the other some, but not fundamentally altering its identity.

Posted by: TexasProud | August 25, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

How much are they paying the republicans to post these negative messages? I'd like to sign up because I could use the money to help me during this difficult time

Posted by: Jason | August 25, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS PROJECTED TO LOSE HEAVILY THIS NOVEMBER. THEIR ONLY CHANCE IS TO ATTEMPT TO TURN DEMOCRATS AGAINST EACH OTHER, OBAMA VS CLINTON. THE FACTS ARE CLEAR, CLINTON AND OBAMA SUPPORT THE SAME POLICIES THAT MCCAIN OPPOSES. THOSE PRETENDING TO BE ANGRY CLINTON SUPPORTERS ARE MERELY GOP IMPOSTERS!!! ITS OBVIOUS AS THEIR COMMENTS ARE SIMPLY REGURGITATED GOP TALKING POINTS.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Brenda.

P.S. to (WAY) Outside the Box: you REALLY think Clinton is going to commit political suicide by releasing her delegates to anyone other than Barack Hussein Obama?!

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

http://homefitnessbody.com/blog

If the Democrats don’t make changes soon, they will lose another national election. The infighting may allow the selection to go to the Republicans where the sitting party President has an approval rating lower than an ENRON 401K. The Dems could have picked anyone and walked right into the White House. Because Hillary wasn’t the choice her backers will sabotage the outcome. I guess that’s real party loyalty. Democrats have become the joke of American Politics.

Posted by: TomR | August 25, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

NO, HERE'S THE REAL NEWS. THE GOP IS PAYING PEOPLE TO PRETEND ONLINE OR OTHERWISE TO BE ANGRY CLINTON SUPPORTERS WHO INTEND TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN IN AN ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. YES, THE VERY SAME STRATEGY OF DIVISIVENESS THAT KARL ROVE USED IN 2000 AND 2004 IS BACK AGAIN. NO INTEGRITY OR IMAGINATION APPARENTLY.

Posted by: Don't Fall For GOP Troll Tricks | August 25, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Candidate of Change ???? He picked Joe Biden who has been in Washington more than McCain probably. Biden voted for the War - what about that ? We should ignore because it will offend Obama ?? Obama is just an arrogant socialist whose only ambition is to be president and make money . he is power hungry and has nothing to do with love for his country. He would rollover, kiss boots, bully , close his eyes or throw anyone under the bus inorder to get what he wants - just a pompous hotheaded person who is bringing this great nation down !!!!
Hilary supporter who will vote for McCain !!!

Posted by: Brenda | August 25, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Well said timeforchangeinamerica.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA IS AFRAID OF VOTERS

THAT'S WHY HE KEEPS DENYING THEM THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE !!


WELL, THE BOYS CLUB AND SUPER THUGS COULD STEAL THE NOMINATION

BUT THEY CAN'T STEAL THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER


HE'S A LOSER

WE'RE SMALL TOWN BITTER WHITE FOLK???

OBAMA IS AN UPTOWN BITTER BLACK GUY

CLINGING TO HIS MARKETERS AND DC BOYS CLUB BABYSITTER VP

HE CONSIDERS BLACKS TO BE "GIMmIE" FOR NOTHING VOTES

BUT "BELIEVE" THIS:

HE'S NOT BLACK LIKE YOU

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse


HERE'S THE REAL NEWS

AMERICANS ARE SKIPPING THE SPEECH


ESPECIALLY THE SMALL TOWN BITTER WHITE FOLKS

WE'LL BE OFF CLINGING TO OUR GUNS AND RELIGION

AND OUR HIGHER STANDARDS


BELIEVE IT


Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse


Who cares?

He is the UNELECTABLE, UNQUALIFIED candidate.

They need Hillary, Bill and Free Tickets to draw a crowd

Mr. Obama's masks and lies have been revealed

FISA LIE - VOTED FOR WARRANTLESS CITIZEN WIRETAPPING AND GAVE AT&T AND VERIZON RETROACTIVE AND FUTUREHOLD HARMLESS FOR CITIZEN PRIVACY HANDOVERS TO FEDS - SAID YES TO PAY FOR HIS EGO-RAMA SHOW THIS WEEK - A STADIUM TO FIT HIS HEAD IN (SEE DEMOCRACY NOW LINK BELOW FOR AMY GOODWINS EXPOSE OF OBAMA'S AT&T AND VERIZON MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS CONVENTION) HE SOLD AMERICAN PRIVACY RIGHTS OUT FOR HIS BIG EGO-RAMA SHOW

FREE TICKETS AND FREE BUTTONS - BECAUSE HE CAN'T SELL THEM !!

NAFTA LIE - WINKED AT CANADA AND LIED UNTIL THE MEMO SHOWED UP

REZKO LIE - 25K DONATIONS - NOW ADMITS $289,000 IN 7 YRS.

LIKE AN UNCLE LIE - SO USEFUL IN CHICAGO, THEN UNDER THE BUS AND DESPICABLE

OFFSHORE DRILLING - LIED TO GET NOMINATION, NOW ALL FOR BIG OIL

DEAF DUMB BLIND FOR 20 YEARS LIE - HALF HOUR LONG - WE DIDN'T "BELIEVE" IT

SMALL TOWN BITTER WHITE FOLK - CAUGHT SAYING IT - NOW WE'RE CLINGING TO OUR HIGHER STANDARDS
CAMPAIGN FINANCE LIE


OBAMA ROLLS OVER FOR MONEY

http://ia311205.us.archive.org/1/items/amy-goodman-column-20080724/Pod_ConventionsMoney_1-2.mp3

NUCLEAR LIES

http://ia311309.us.archive.org/1/items/amy-goodman-column-20080717/PodNuclear20080717_1-2.mp3

CENSURING DECENT IN A DEMOCRACY ? AT THE CONVENTION IN DENVER

http://ia311304.us.archive.org/2/items/amy-goodman-column-20080814/Podcast_20080814.mp3


GET EDUCATED AMERICA

HE CHOSE A BABYSITTER RATHER THAN A VP

BECAUSE HE HAS TO HAVE A BOYS CLUB FULL OF HAND HOLDERS

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton Supporters Voting For John McCain

You are not Democrats!
You do not care about past issues that have faced families and women, and you certainly do not care about future issues facing families and women! You will obviously do whatever it takes to ensure hard fought legislation presented by Democrats to protect women and families is overturned! Democrats can be assured you WILL NOT be whining since you support Republicans!

As the cost of living increases, we know you will be proud that you played such an important part in putting another Republican in office!

But, most of all, you will be extremely proud of destroying everything BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON, and Democrats have struggled and fought for to improve the quality of life in the United States. You will rally as more jobs are sent overseas, and stand firmly on the side of Republicans as more men and women march off to war in other faraway countries.

You will boast to friends and families about the important role you played in this election to prevent the possibility of health care for Americans.

You can take comfort in knowing because of your bitterness, self-absorption and lack of logic and reasoning, Hillary Clinton will go down in history books and novels as a woman who destroyed the one chance to remove power from Republicans during a time in American history when the country was at its worst possible point!

History will discredit everything Hillary Clinton has accomplished as a WOMAN, First Lady, and SENATOR because of your vote for John McCain. Hillary Clinton is trying to unify her supporters behind the Democratic Party to ensure a better life for all Americans, but that’s not enough for you! Bill and Hillary Clinton have been the backbone of the Party for years, and will continue to support the Party, but you have decided to discredit and destroy what she stands for, believes in, and has fought for because you feel betrayed!

Good luck, and enjoy your selfish, vindictive victory vote for the Republican Party – for McCain, and for Rush Limbaugh!

Your betrayal will not be forgotten! Revenge is a two-way street, and if Obama does not get into office because of your vote, Republicans can rest assured they will control Washington for the next 8, 16, or maybe with any luck, 24 years! Maybe McCain, Rush, Karl Rove, and the Swift Boat Express are not as dumb as most Democrats thought!

History will forget about YOU, the supporter, but scholars, historians, and political authors will not forget the Clinton’s and the role they played in the division that resulted in the decline of the Democratic Party of 2008.

Posted by: timeforchangeinamerica | August 25, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Hillary and Bill are really fragmenting the party. How ever, Team Obama is not exactly embracing the former President.

http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Posted by: mgultch | August 25, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Juanita Broaddrick | August 25, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Who cares, he is the candidate they can get over it. Some may think he rolled the dice but the thought of running with her was probably so bad plus the posable dysfunctional nature of what the white house would be with her and Bill around would be unbearable. He made the decision and it shows he is his own man. Screw Hillary and the horse she road in on.

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What does Obama have to do to patch things up? Passing over Hillary is looking like a bigger headache than if he had brought her and Bill on board.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 25, 2008 1:57 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

REPUBLICAN CONVENTION SCHEDULE LEAKED!


Day 1 of the RNC schedule:


7:00 pm – Ceremonial burning of the U.S. Constitution

7:15 pm – Spiritual Medium Sylvia Browne performs psychic séance in desperate attempt to raise Ronald Reagan from the grave.

7:35 pm – "The Pleasures of Adultery" - with Newt Gingrich & Rudy Giuliani

8:05 pm – Gay sex party in Minneapolis Airport's Men's Restroom hosted by Senator Larry Craig

8:35 pm - Transvestite Ann Coulter – "My Life as a Man"

8:55 pm – Live satellite feed from Federal Prison – Ohio Rep. Bob Ney

9:05 pm – Guest speaker ex-Florida Congressman Mark Foley " Joys with Young Boys"

9:25 pm – Oliver North – "Iran is Evil, but I sold them weapons anyway"

9:40 pm – Bill O' Reilly – "The costs of sexual harassment and phone sex with employees"

10:00 pm – Gay sex party in Men's Room hosted by Ken Mehlman and Geraldo Rivera

10:25 pm – Check on McCain to see if he's still breathing and if his adult diaper needs changed.

10:35 pm – N.R.A. President hosts an assault riffle target practice on Gays and Mexicans.

10:45 pm - Call emergency squad after a drunken Darth Cheney accidentally shoots his friend in the face.

11:00 pm – Bush performs his hilarious comedy routine where he looks for Iraq's fictitious WMD's under guests tables.

11:15 pm – Governor Mike Huckabee does his famous uncanny imitation of Gomer Pyle.

11:20 pm – Group intervention to get Rush Limbaugh back into drug rehab

11: 45 pm – Go up on rooftop and throw rocks down at homeless Vets sleeping in alley.

12:00 am – Live satellite feed from Federal Prison – California Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham

12:20 am – Convicted felon/Fox News analyst G. Gordon Liddy – Lock picking secrets

12: 40 am – Guest speakers Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz – "How to lie your Country into a War"

1:00 am – Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay – "Tips on Money Laundering"

1:15 am – Hookers arrive for after party

Posted by: ExxonMcCain | August 25, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Look, many of Hillary's supporters were "access givers" and they know that an Obama Administration is going to be a lot cleaner than the Clinton Administration was. They are not going to get the same deal. But they'll deal, because Obama is winning this thing.

Now, part of the reason that some of those people are crooked is because they have a jaded notion that the world is crooked. And they think they are testing Obama and giving him some education in the ways of the world. All they are really doing is playing themselves out of the game.

The Clintons, who fought from one battle to the next, never were good at seeing the big picture. And, clearly, many of their backers aren't either. What part of he won fair and square don't they get? This is entitlement mentality at its worst. We don't need those people anywhere near DC.

Go! And don't let the door hit your fat butts on the way out. You want to be crooked? Join the Republican party. But leave us moral progressives alone. I'd rather do battle against evil Republicans with real Democratic soldiers, not you fake, self-centered, passive-aggressive corrupt people.

If you don't want peace, prosperity, health care, education, energy independence and a clean environment then you are a Republican.

If all you want is access then you are a Republican.

If you only care about yourself and your business and political friends then you are a Republican.

Know thyself.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 25, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

What does Obama have to do to patch things up? Passing over Hillary is looking like a bigger headache than if he had brought her and Bill on board.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 25, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Today Obama's mentor from Illinois, State Senate President Emil Jones, called a black female Hillary supporter an "Uncle Tom". This was in-front of several other female politicians from Chicago who confirmed his statement.

When she confronted him he walked away from her.

This is the same Emil "I want a pay raise" Jones who has stymied ethical reforms for years and who at the end of the year intends on turning over his State Senate seat to his 30 year old son.

This is the type of "Change" we can look forward too!

Posted by: Mike H | August 25, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It has more to do with who is picking up the tab. We know Hillary is broke and there is no reason to stay anyway. They have been at this for over a year.

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HILLARIAN BOYCOTT: THIS MEANS WAR. AND WE'RE WINNNING.

Word of this boycott puts the Hillary putsch into Stage Three, Full Speed Ahead.

She is going to deny Obama the nomination, and this is a clear signal to her supporters...

"Ignore any perfunctory rhetoric. This is war. And we have the the will and the votes to win."

Posted by: Outside the Box | August 25, 2008 1:45 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Outside the Box:

How do you possibily have the "votes" to win if she already released her delegates to vote for Obama? She would have to show up and fight to actually win.

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Ouch!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

HILLARIAN BOYCOTT: THIS MEANS WAR. AND WE'RE WINNNING.

Word of this boycott puts the Hillary putsch into Stage Three, Full Speed Ahead.

She is going to deny Obama the nomination, and this is a clear signal to her supporters...

"Ignore any perfunctory rhetoric. This is war. And we have the the will and the votes to win."

Posted by: Outside the Box | August 25, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

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