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In Wis., Obama Offers Tough Words for McCain


Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) walks along a trail with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI)(L), Scott Campbell (2nd R) and Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle at a campaign event at Rod and Gun Park in Eau Claire, Wis., August 24, 2008. (Reuters/Jim Young)

Updated 2:35 p.m.
By Anne E. Kornblut
EAU CLAIRE, Wis. -- One day after appearing with his new vice presidential running mate, Sen. Barack Obama returned to the campaign trail solo -- and acting as his own attack dog.

"Talking tough and acting dumb is not a way to keep you safe and secure," Obama said, sharply criticizing Sen. John McCain for being what he described as a "cheerleader" for the Iraq war.

Obama did not mention that his new running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, also supported the war initially, one of the potential weaknesses of the new Democratic ticket -- and one the McCain campaign rapidly jumped on. "In his first event since choosing Joe Biden as his vice presidential nominee, Barack Obama attacked many of Joe Biden's own positions on national security issues," said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers in a statement released soon after Obama spoke. "We look forward to the debate between Joe Biden and Barack Obama over whether or not Senator Obama is qualified to be commander in chief."

In choosing Biden, Obama added a strong voice and a potentially hard-hitting advocate against the Republicans. But several Obama advisers said that Obama would continue taking on McCain directly, rather than leaving that job to his number two.

He did so on Sunday, mocking McCain for his recent failure to remember how many houses he has, questioning his ability to understand the economy and welcoming a comparison between the two on foreign policy.

Obama worked until after midnight on Saturday night on his convention speech, which he will deliver Thursday night. In his remarks to the group of supporters gathered here, he said that when his wife, Michelle, gives her convention speech in Denver on Monday night, it will offer "a sense of who she is and what her values are," especially when it comes to raising their daughters and having had a middle class upbringing.

Obama also joked about his two young girls, saying he was running for president to keep them under lock and key. "The real reason is Secret Service protection for my two girls as they enter into their teenage years. Whenever a young man comes by for a date, we're going to have one of these mean-looking guys with glasses, they don't crack a smile," Obama said. "They're armed. They're dangerous."

Obama was accompanied by Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle, who introduced the candidate as someone who would, among other things, "help cut taxes for middle class people who are working so hard."

It was a small event -- a few hundred people at most, seated at picnic tables eating barbecue -- was staged to convey an intimate feeling and present Obama on a human scale just days before he will address tens of thousands in Denver.

Sen. Russ Feingold, who also appearing at the event, praised Obama for opposing the Iraq war before it began. Feingold sits on the Senate Foreign Relations committee with both Obama and Biden. "It's going to get lonely with you two guys gone," Feingold said.

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ANNONOYMOUS; What you state is true, but you left out the part where the crewmembers aboard the USS Forrestal laid the blame at the Adulterer's feet. In case you haven't, here is the website: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message503422/pg1.
We have an AG (Aging Gigolo) that refers to his own wife, as a trollip and a c*nt.

This is the same wife that supplies him with all the luxuries he enjoys. I assume that is how he sees her since she was the other party involved in his adulturous affair with his first wife.

Posted by: Wildbill | August 25, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm fairly certain Anne Kornblut has never referred to Sen McCain as a dog.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

[QUOTE BY windbill on August 25, 2008 12:25 AM] "John McCain, America's first gigolo presidential candidate". Wet starting our economy like the wet start he did aboard the USS Forrestal aircraft carrier in which 134 soldiers were killed, could cause even more damage to our country. One may wonder just what type of wet start or surge he may have in store for the American people with this type of reckless behavior.

Hey windbill,
You apparently don't know your facts concerning the fire aboard the USS Forrestal, so chew on this.

The fire aboard the USS Forrestal was started when a Zuni rocket lit off from under the wing of a parked F-4 Phantom II, flew across the deck and hit several parked A-4E Skyhawks preparing for a mission against North Vietnam. No one was a fault as the incident was due to a freak electrical anomaly. John McCain was in one of the A-4Es that was hit by the rocket and in no way was responsible for any wrong doing. He escaped his burning aircraft and spent the next fifteen hours helping sailors, Marines and naval airmen fight the fire.


Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 25, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

McCain has a long history of cover-ups like most all politicians. It seems that is what they do best besides lineing their pockets and the pockets of the people that helped them get elected. Someone argued with me earlier, and I quote:

"There's lots of people who can lead us in the right direction who aren't Democrats or Republicans; but you know as well as I do that he/she had better be connected to a mainstream party somewhere, have grassroots support, and yes, at least some corporate support, and more than a few peers in the Congress. Until then, we'll be a two party system just as we were since the Whigs and the Federalists."

Capitalist thought, huh? Sad that our president HAS to be cnnected to a grassroots party, HAS to have corporate support, and HAS to have peers in congress. Two party system like the Whigs and Federalists we DON'T have. Most of the Whigs and Federalists did not have more money than the people they represented. They WERE close enough to what the common man felt to be able to preside in a capacity that held government by the people for the people. Today, fatcats run things and care not for the common man. They are so far removed financially from the common man woes that Big Government, by the politicians for the politicians, have created so they can stay rich and get richer.

Vote anything BUT dem or repub. It won't be a wasted vote. It's time we let the people speak, not the wealthy two-party fatcats.

Posted by: stickem | August 25, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

ANONYMOUS: Prisoner of War (POW) describes five years of John McCain's life that took place during the Vietnam Conflict that ended over thirty years ago. The description that most identifies John McCain for the past 28 years is an Aging Gigolo (AG): Cindy's Aging Gigolo. That issue has well been played out by the most recent statement of John McCain not knowing how many houses he and Cindy own and the MSM making excuses for him not knowing by saying things indicating he and Cindy had a prenuptial agreement and that the houses were hers. We can assume that the $500.00 pair of shoes was a gift from her as well. It begs the question as to just how much has Cindy showered her Aging Gigolo with over the years. One could just see it now: "John McCain, America's first gigolo presidential candidate". Wet starting our economy like the wet start he did aboard the USS Forrestal aircraft carrier in which 134 soldiers were killed, could cause even more damage to our country. One may wonder just what type of wet start or surge he may have in store for the American people with this type of reckless behavior.

Posted by: wildbill | August 25, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Another way to improve our democracy would be to use Proportional Representation rather than the current First Past the Post system. In a ProRep system if a party gets 10% of the votes it gets 10% of the seats. This way smaller parties like Green and Libertarian can be represented in government. Every modern democracy in the world except the US, Canada, Great Britain and India use some form of PR. Why don't we use a much fairer form of democracy? Well in the entire history of American democracy there have been 2 governing parties. Why would they willingly want to change? They know it is only a matter of time before they will be reinstated, no matter how destructive their policies. Having the right to choose between 2 political parties (2 heads of the same monster) is hardly a choice. Land of the free, indeed...

Posted by: Mike Robinson | August 24, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Replace it with something other than dem or repub. Voting these 2 parties has kept us in the dark and under the rule of parties not the people. Do you disagree that these 2 parties rule as they choose, with no idea of what ails the common American? Do you see them as having a handle on what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck? Where they'll come up with the expense of school clothes and supplies for their children? What they have to pawn so their daughter can go to summer band camp? If you don't have this problem in your life, then you are not a part of the majority of Americans who really are concerned about fatcats running the country yet again. Someone whose insurance is paid for by the taxpayers, who doesn't cringe when they have to fill up with gas, and aren't worried in the least with how they'll pay their electric bill this month, has no place issuing mandates for us. They can't relate, so they can't care. Voting the same ole tickets is just ludicrous if you really expect change.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the duplicate responses. My user name didn't come up automatically and I tried to squeeze it in.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

stickem,
Granted; we have the right to alter or abolish our government; but to replace it with what? The same people, whether this generation or another, might not have a say or agree on what replaces it. That's the dilemma that’s kept us from doing it all these decades. The Founding Fathers didn't always make things easy for a reason and there might be some reason behind this. I would hate to see our great republic end up like Italy where there are more votes on whether to abolish existing governments and initiate new ones than the passing of actual legislation.

What you're advocating may happen one day, but hopefully when all else has failed.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

stickem,
Granted; we have the right to alter or abolish our government; but to replace it with what? The same people, whether this generation or another, might not have a say or agree on what replaces it. That's the dilemma that’s kept us from doing it all these decades. The Founding Fathers didn't always make things easy for a reason and there might be some reason behind this. I would hate to see our great republic end up like Italy where there are more votes on whether to abolish existing governments and initiate new ones than the passing of actual legislation.

What you're advocating may happen one day, but hopefully when all else has failed.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 24, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Back From Iraq: The people have not had a say in our government for many years, and until we stop voting for repub and dem election in and election out, we will suffer the same atrocities as we have continued to suffer in the past. We are no longer a government by the people for the people, we are a government by the rich for the rich. You want change??? Vote anything but repub or dem. Until you do,it will always be business as usual; rich get richer because our leaders have no idea of the plight of the common American.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Back From Iraq: And this crooked two party system is broken and has been for a long time. Until voters get up enough balls to vote differently, we'll have crooked politicians running this country to suit their own needs and the needs of their constituents (money, money, money). Perhaps you need to re-read a very important part of the Constitution:

"...— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,..."

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Sure stickem,
There's lots of people who can lead us in the right direction who aren't Democrats or Republicans; but you know as well as I do that he/she had better be connected to a mainstream party somewhere, have grassroots support, and yes, at least some corporate support, and more than a few peers in the Congress. Until then, we'll be a two party system just as we were since the Whigs and the Federalists.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 24, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Another ?, Back From Iraq. Are you repubs so party oriented you won't look anywhere else for proper leadership?? Geez... Do a bit of research into other candidates besides repubs and dems. you'll be surprised that there other people out there with MUCH better ideas than the fat cats of the dems and repubs. Candidates more in tuned with the needs of the American People. Dare you!!!

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Back From Iraq: But you still back somebody who's voting record since 2000 is nil??? Somebody who can't remember??? Somebody who has done nothing for his country but take??? Oops... sorry... war hero... I forgot... see previous post below.

"Anonymous: Good call!!! It amazes how the term "war hero" gets bantered about. Did Johnny do ANYTHING that kept other soldiers or civilians from being injured or killed?? NO! A war hero is one that goes above and beyond the call of duty, BY CHOICE, to defend or save. Audie Murphy was a war hero. L'il Johnny was only a prisoner of war, NOT BY HIS CHOICE. This does not make a war hero. POW does not spell HERO.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 5:21 PM

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

[QUOTE BY: mnjam at 6:47 PM]: He started a fire on the USS Forrestal which killed 130+ sailors. What kind of "war hero" kills more of his own than the enemy. McCain is a joke. [END QUOTE]
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Hey mnjam,
Do you people just sit around and make this up as you go along? The fire aboard the USS Forrestal was started when a Zuni rocket lit off from under the wing of a parked F-4 Phantom II, flew across the deck and hit several parked A-4E Skyhawks preparing for a mission against North Vietnam. No one was a fault as the incident was due to a freak electrical anomaly. John McCain was in one of the A-4Es that was hit by the rocket and in no way was responsible for any wrong doing.

Again, if you want to compare McCain and Obama on their voting records concerning defense, energy, economy, etc. and discuss who has the best qualifications for commander-in-chief and president; then do so without making up garbage. Obama's campaign manager David Axelrod doesn't need help from you guys making stuff up. If you want to compare military service histories … well … you can’t.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 24, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS:

McCain admits signs of Alzheimer's. Tragedy for the McCain family!!

Posted by: WOW | August 24, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

When McCain has a brain aneurysm and keels over I'm going to stand and cheer. Someone with dementia and a hair trigger temper in the White House is not only scary but could spell the end of the world as we know it.

Rednecks, stick with your laughable minimum wage jobs and know nothing perspective. Seriously...STFU. You're all a bunch of pathetic idiots

Posted by: Rednecks are a JOKE | August 24, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

McCain is anything but a war hero. This "hot dog" crash five jets. He started a fire on the USS Forrestal which killed 130+ sailors. What kind of "war hero" kills more of his own than the enemy. McCain is a joke.

Posted by: mnjam | August 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

80 years old in second term.... hmmm... does that mean he would be nodding off during important stuff just like the aged of the Justices.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

McCain would be 80 years old in his second term.

Nope.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: Are you truly saying that you support Mc's voting record in the senate?? Are you truly saying that you're not worried about his inability to be aware of today?? If so, you guys are easily amused and hood-winked

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

But Anonymous, Li'l Johnny doesn't have one either, at least one you should be touting.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

[QUOTE BY Abby 0802] It is my understanding that people supporting McCain point to his war record, his "experience," etc. [END QUOTE].
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Wrong Abby 0802,
We compare McCain's Senate record to that of Obama's lack of one, because Obama has no service record.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

It is my understanding that people supporting McCain point to his war record, his "experience," etc.

May I point out that being taken pow does not make you presidential material?

May I point out that McCain has some experiences I would rather not have in someone who thinks he should be president.

Mr. Experience McCain:
* bottom of his class at Annapolis;
* well known a carouser and skirt chaser;
* committed adultery, had an affair with Cindy while still married to wife #1, a woman he dumped after she had an accident which resulted in her acquiring a limp -- (real sympathetic guy, huh?) -- I guess Cindy's money made her better than the wife who stayed loyal to McCain when he was a pow
* admitted he knows nothing about about economics which is evidenced that he wants to make Bush's tax cuts for the rich and corporations permanent when our country is drowning in debt
* can't keep Shia and Sunni straight in an interview with someone correcting him
* doesn't know geograpy -- said Iraq bordered Pakistan
* well known bad temper among DC folks
* poor judgment in using racially charged ads to attack Obama
* didn't support the improved GI bill for the same military he wants to keep in Iraq for who knows how long
* involvement with the Keating 5 savings and loan scandal
* born with a silver spoon in his mouth and can't even keep track of how many homes he and Cindy own

Maybe McCain's jealous --

Obama and his wife appear to have a good, stable marriage
Obama is intelligent and thoughtful, not prone to outburst of bad temper
was honest in admitting his moral failings while McCain glossed over his adulterous past
has only one home, expensive by most standards but, hey, he and his wife both work

Gee, makes you wonder what McCain thinks GOP means

greedy, opportunistic, perfidious

Posted by: abby0802 | August 24, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

[Quote From Anonymous at 5:10 PM] McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years. [End Quote].
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Anonymous,
I guess if you were getting the snot beat out of you, you wouldn't talk. The Military Code of Conduct says to resist as much as possible when questioned; it looks like John McCain did that and more. By the way, since when were witnesses necessary to ensure that one resists as much as possible. Further, who is to say the beatings, physical and mental torture wouldn’t resume again at any time during captivity? McCain brought back the poorly healed broken bones and ruptured internal organs from his ordeal; he doesn't have to prove anything to you, me or anybody else. Having served in the armed forces, including service in Iraq, I've wondered how I would have endured in McCain's position forty years ago. Better yet, how would you, or Obama, or some of the moaners on this site fair in a similar situation.

John McCain served his country, flew numerous successful missions over North Vietnam, resisted as much as possible when captured, served as a commanding officer of a naval air unit in the U.S. after the war and retired as a Captain in the Navy. You can’t complain about any of that. If you have a beef with McCain’s Senate record, then present that along side that of Obama’s record, because the rest of your argument is just a lot of smoke, kind of like that generated by the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 24, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

To Anonymous: I've come across bits of what you're saying before, but for credibility, can you direct us to your sources for this info. If it's true, it's kept quiet. Without sources, it sounds no more credible than the lies and name calling against Obama's wife.

Posted by: To Anonymous | August 24, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

FOUND: John McCain - Get out of Gaffe Free Card (UPDATED)
In honor of the fact that every time McCain screws up, the McCain campaign predictably deflects the gaffe by using the fact that he was a POW 40 years ago to silence any criticism...

this is the card that the McCain campaign quietly slips to the media to insure that it will not be covered:


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/21/16410/0565/504/572077

Posted by: jgreen08 | August 24, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I have been waiting so-o-o-o long for Dems to get a spine. Go get 'em
Obama and Biden. Repugs will always criticize you anyway but speak truth to power with force and simplicity!!!

Posted by: Brianna | August 24, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: Good call!!! It amazes how the term "war hero" gets bantered about. Did Johnny do ANYTHING that kept other soldiers or civilians from being injured or killed?? NO! A war hero is one that goes above and beyond the call of duty, BY CHOICE, to defend or save. Audie Murphy was a war hero. L'il Johnny was only a prisoner of war, NOT BY HIS CHOICE. This does not make a war hero. POW does not spell HERO.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

How could any sensible person trust a man who has flip-flopped or lied as much as McCain? CBS printed an article that documents all 74 policy reversals that have happened since he became the candidate.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/24/politics/animal/main4377993.shtml

The details are here:
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops
I suppose the question is, when presented with such overwhelming evidence, will Republicans continue to support the man by rationalizing that it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win, or will they reflect that honesty, honor and virtue do continue to have a place in the American psyche. A nation needs to be able to trust its leader and McCain simply isn't trustable. When he says, "My friends...." he doesn't really mean it.

Posted by: Mike Robinson | August 24, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

McTemper: What makes you think I'm repug??? Certainly nothing I said. And no, everyone who doesn't vote for BO is not a racist. Obviously you are one of those blacks who thinks whitey owes you. Come off it. Nobody owes you anything. 98% of the people you think owe you for the slavery that MAYBE your ancestors suffered, had absolutely nothing to do with slavery. You and your kind are only looking for all of the free ride you can get. Buck up and get a job.

BTW. I'm black, too.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?


Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I AM SO GLAD THE REPUBLICAN SCUM IS SO PISSED OFF AT THE IDEA OF A BLACK MAN BEING THE POTUS.

GET USED TO IT RACIST SCUM IT WILL HAPPEN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

HOW DOES THAT FEEL?

Posted by: jack | August 24, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes most of you Repukes are racist, like I dont live with you all and dont know it.

And thats a tragedy, as the man is the best hope this nation can expect.

Nowadays both major parties have pretty much the same agenda, it usually boils down to personalities, as much as you all would like to think you are voting based on issues, sorry to disappoint.... you are voting on party lines based on what Sean Hannity or Fox news tell you, based on Swiftboat special interests and based on your perceptions, hardly anyone votes based on the best man or Bush Jr would never have been elected twice.....that or the repukes are dumber than I imagined.

Posted by: McTemper | August 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Good choice of words Obama!!!

"talking tough and acting dumb"

that's exactly what we need to point out: MCCAIN IS DUMB SENILE AND DEFICIENT!
GIMME A F*CKIN' BREAK, HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES HE OWNS! ALZHAIMER?

Obama/Biden 08/12

Posted by: jack | August 24, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

intcamd1: Many valid points however it's not BO that split the Dems. Hill and Bill can take credit for that.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to read certain High school dropout McCain supporters call Harvard educated Obama an idiot.

You guys need to pick up a book and help improve the planet.

Posted by: Richard | August 24, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

McTemper: DUDE!!! race card unnecessary. Just because the repugs aren't voting BO doesn't mean their racist. Are u racist against whites just because u aren't voting Mcdud?? I don't like either candidate for many reasons but racism ain't one of them.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama said he was for change. His first major decision is to put some one with 36 yrs inside the beltway on the ticket.

Obama said he was going to work across the aisle. He can't even work with half of the democratic wing.

Obama said he was against the same old politics. Now he is clutching at straws, and attacking the # of houses CIndy McCain inherited.

Obama said he was going to unite the world. He has now split the democratic party down the middle, perhaps irrevocably.

Nobama is the Trojan horse, that the media pimps put into our party. The old democratic hands can't understand what happened to our party anymore. The media pimps tell us that we should trash the only 2-term president we produced in 60 years, brand him and his wife as racists, and follow this neophyte of whom we know nothing.

We let the media pimps steal this nomination away from us, and all we have now is this man, his wife, and his pastor.

We deserve everything we beget.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

rtfanning: I know many Muslims and they're not radical. Not every Muslim is. An of these Muslims that I know, many have chosen to convert to christianity here in America. Stating that all Muslims are terrorists and want to kill all Americans is like saying that all christians will kill you if you don't believe as they do or will send out the Spanish Inquisition. Although there are radicals is ALL religions, they really aren't all out to get you.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain has a fould temper, any Repukes here willing to deny that?

So what happens if grampyMcSame blows a fuse and accidentally starts a conflict that spreads into a potential Nuclear Conflageration?

Any of you Repukes willing to guarantee GrampyMcSame will keep his cool for the entire 4 years of his first term?

Are you guys crazy?

Just because you hate a man because of the color if his skin, you are willing to sacrifice the entire nation to a hot headed crackpot?

You dont believe me? Go to Youtube and search for mcCain temper angry

See what comes up and then decide, dont hate Obama only because he is Black, Obama is a self made Harvard educated man, who rose from the ranks, yes he is young, and inexperienced but if Bush was your choice twice, why would that matter to you now?

At least Barack is a real graduate. He has a pretty smart veep.

Stop the racist hatred and elect the best.

Posted by: McTemper | August 24, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

[QUOTE BY OBAMA] "Talking tough and acting dumb is not a way to keep you safe and secure." [END QUOTE]
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Well Obama, the same can be said for talking dumb and acting tough. You might want to take both pieces of advice before you go up against John McCain again. Maybe you should let Biden and Axelrod do your talking for you.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

B. Hussein Obama and Bill Ayers=HOPE?
Only if you're a DOPE?

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama in Wisconsin


Saul Alinsky – google him and ask yourself why “Rules for Radicals” was such a germane piece of work in Obama’s early political thinking, i.e., “find a problem within the middle class, and rub that wound raw.”

As Obama delivers speeches in Wisconsin today and talks about his extreme concern for the working man, wonder how genuine you think he really those ‘words’ really are.

We will never know what Barrack Hussein Obama really believes. What we do know is that when he went to an Islamic parochial school in Indonesia and his religion was identified as Muslim and that after he returned to Hawaii, he still identified himself as Muslim. Sometime, over 25 years ago, he was told by the old-school Chicago Political machine that groomed him that he needed to start thinking about the future and establish a power base through affiliation with a powerful black Christian Church and lo and behold, he’s a “Christian” . . . well sorta, he became an official member of , an organization, Trinity United Church of Christ, whose charter is (was? I haven’t’ recently checked the website to see if it was scrubbed . . . go ahead check it out, (http://www.tucc.org)): “We are an African people, and remain ‘true to our native land,’ the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.” Black liberation theology, masquerading as a Christian Organization, with a pastor who “God-damn[s] America.”

Lovely! An organization of Negroes whose primary allegiance is not to America but rather to Africa. Such is the essence of black liberation theology (and its practical hypocrisy by Wright): the duty and allegiance of Blacks is not to their native born country, America, but rather to their mother-land, Africa. Such ethnocentricity smacks a blow to the very notion of American patriotism and the relinquishing of a U.S. immigrant’s nation of origin, let alone that of an American citizen’s distant ancestor, as a defining characteristic of U.S. citizenship. Sitting in the pews for 20 years listening to such theology, one can only guess how a President Barack Obama would view his primary allegiance -- to America? or rather to some distant ideal of a Black Supremacist continent of Africa. Punctuating the notion that we are like the bedfellows whom we choose to hang with, we only need to read the words of his literal bedfellow – his wife, to learn that she also held tight beliefs in separation theology. From her thesis at Princeton: 'By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.”

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
Click here to read about Dr. Wright’s talking points for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System.

Posted by: rtfanning | August 24, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Bidden is a good choice BECAUSE he is not a carbon copy of BO. Checks and balances, man. Checks and balances.

Be careful of the SS for your daughters, though. They didn't do so well with W's kid.

Posted by: stickem | August 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It would be too funny if McCrap just toppled over and died.

McCrap promised not to run a Swiftboat campaign, but thats exactly what he is doing.

This guy is a liar, he even hugged Bush after the shrub ruined his reputation in 04.

Mccrap will say or do anything to get elected, that is how greedy and desperate this man is to get into the White House? What fuels is insatiable desire to be the President?

This guy is 10 times as Dangerous as Bush, McCrap will start a war with Iran as soon as he is in power, may start something with Russia who he has been demanding be thrown out of the G7 for a long while now.

McCrap has not seen a regional problem that he did not think deserved a military response.

This guy has a crusader mentality, and feels it Americas Christian right to defeat any and all enemies, real or percieved.

This guy is crazy, watch him lose his cool on YOUTUBE, the shameful way he derides a poor powerless woman, do you want this POS to be your president?

He is McGarbage of a Human being.

Posted by: McCrap | August 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

current events test for obama

how many people died in the kansas tornados last week?

a 12

b 50

c 100

d 10,000

obamas answer"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed,"

and you call mccain stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This guy is not going to do anything for me, I'm not black. Who does he think he's fooling? His fellow fools?

Posted by: White Male | August 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his staff seem unusually reactive to anything Obama does. His choice for V.P. is really his own business, and yet they have the audacity to insist that he should have chosen Clinton. Oh, sure, after the nasty primary fight she waged against him? His own supporters would have been up in arms over such a poor choice. McCain supporters backed Clinton in her bid for the Dem nomination and I think Clinton wants McCain to win the general election. That way, in four years, the electorate will be even more sick of the Republicans and she will have a shot at the presidency. If Obama wins, her last chance will probably evaporate and she knows it. I don't think she puts the good of the country ahead of her personal ambition for even a second, which is why she lost. Obama is finally making some headway against McCain after the embarrassment over the number of homes he owns. Rightwingers may think it doesn't matter, but people who own one home and know they are lucky to have it don't understand these bluebloods who've been sheltered all their lives and can't relate to the average person's experience. You'd think McCain's time in a POW camp would have given him a better grounding in the basic realities, but apparently, he's forgotten whatever he learned there. The very idea of owning seven homes. Such elitism, and then coming back by claiming that Obama's one nice home was obtained by ill-gotten gain. Only the hardcore capitalist pig set are going to buy that crap. It's appalling.

Posted by: Tom B. | August 24, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain McSame McSwine

In that post, the Republican candidate and his supporters are referred to as McSame, McSwine, a disgrace to humanity, journalism and America, shills that should be hanged, tyrant, crooked, twerp, McInsane, mad, dangerous, crackpot, idiot, and that McCain received special treatment in the Hanoi Hilton "because he opened up like a canary for the Vietcong."

Um, who's insane? No wonder all of American tunes out you liberal weasels. It all sounds the same, blah, blah, conspiracy, blah.

For the love of Pete, already, put a sock in it.

Posted by: cathode_ray_is | August 24, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

If Biden can be faulted for supporting the invasion of Iraq, then so can half of America....and for the same reason. He, just as most of us, believed his president. In fact, shouldn't we have been able to do so ? Why hasn't anyone asked General Colin Powell how he feels about being used as a patsy in the entire deception ? Hasn't ANYONE noticed how conspicuous he is by his absence from the Bush administration ? And, by the way, if we're worrying about Obama's "lack of experience" just do the math and take a look at where President Bush's abundant experience has left us.

Posted by: thorninurside | August 24, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

So, let's leave Iraq.. On the verge of victory, just leave Iraq. That is just plain stupid. Is it that important to you folks who love your party and ideas over what's better for our country. You would rather lose than bring our troops home with a victory.

That is why McCain will win, because America cannot aford to lose.

Posted by: gop | August 24, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh heck, let's just begin the coronation of Great Barack as king and be done with it. Even though his policies of big government have failed when tried before, let's try it. Even though no innovations have ever come from government, let's try it. Even though mindless sycophants and apple polishers believe a community organizer from the Chicago Political Machine with ties to terrorists, bigots, and felons can bring "change", let's try it.

So what kind of innovation can Barack and the Democrat party bring by legislation? I'm a little lost as to what great inventions happened in the last 100 years because of government manipulation. That's okay history doesn't matter... Barack will somehow find a way.

Posted by: Ken | August 24, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I see the ingrates are on the computer, a little bored and angry knowing summer break is almost over, full of hate and ignorance towards anyone that doesn't believe in their point of view. "Bush lied, McBush" and mocking someones age shows everyone what the democrat party has become, just a bunch of whinny snobs unable to find happiness in this great country, and more than willing to spread their misery to everyone else. Is it any wonder why Obama keeps falling in the polls, no matter how much money he spends? Do you libs ever realize that his blame-america attitude doesn't jive with the rest of us NORMAL americans who work 9-5 and love their country?

Posted by: Speed Racer | August 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Multiple Choice Geography Test

Number of US States

a. 48

b. 50

c. 118

d. 57

e.56

can obama pick the correct answer?

Posted by: semtex111 | August 24, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain?
Insane

Posted by: Jean | August 24, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Where is the John McCain who was a fearless leader on immigration?

Where is the John McCain who criticized the president's wartime tax cuts?

Where is the John McCain who condemned the intolerance of the religious right?

Where is the John McCain who slammed the Swift Boat authors?

Something drastic has happened to the free-thinking John McCain most of America knew and loved.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It is the same McCain with Alzheimer's disease. McCain is losing the ability to have a short term memory, which is the first to go in Alzheimer's disease. It is the first to go in just about all dementia.
McCain is too old to be elected president, especially in this day and age when things can happen so quickly and told and seen around the world in minutes.
McCain has had many problems with protecting the rich, starting with Keating in the Lincoln savings and loan scandal when tired with all his might to protect Keating along with four other senators who probably had their pockets filled with cash from Keating and other savings and loan CE0's.

Posted by: John Bourmed | August 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain has really painted himself into a corner when it comes to his VP, I guess he should of thought about that before releaseing a video questioning why Clinton wasnt on the ticket. McCain will be a Hipocrit if Huckabee isnt on the ticket now. I hope the DNC starts putting together the Hippocrit video as we speak. THe McCain camp is retarded. So John McCain pick Huckabee or suffer the rath of your own venom. http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: John | August 24, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Ben! And thank you for your services and sacrifices. We need more people like you in this world!!! God Bless!!
S

Posted by: Steve | August 24, 2008 3:54 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll second that Steve. Ben, I was in Iraq too and while we were making a difference and al-Qaida was getting mauled as far back as 2005, Obama, Reid, Kennedy and their friends in the Congress, the media, and some desperate Obamists on these very comments have desperately done everything they could to discredit our successes and give the image that Iraq was lost. Their plan was to hold out with the great lie until the '08 Election; it didn't work. Now Obama is backing away from openly advocating immediate flight from Iraq, and even advocates a surge in Afghanistan; sounds like some of David Axelrod’s damage control, doesn't it.

Hang in there brother. If you go back down range, just know that a lot of good people in and out of uniform are backing you and will keep Obama where he belongs; out of the White House, and not our commander-in-chief. Don’t forget to vote and encourage others to do the same.

Rich
OIF 2006/07

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 24, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama really doesn't want a debate where we can single out 'dumb' things that either candidate has done.


I thought he was going to rise above that kind of garbage. Where's the Hope and Change?

Oh yeah. Not gettin' any of that.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid kids!

Posted by: Pot & Kettle | August 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: HotboxSports | August 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The choice is clear: Dumb vs.Smart

McCain is dumber then Bush. At least Bush can count to 7. Dementia has taken its toll on McCain.

I will vote for the smart guy.

Posted by: Vote for the Smart Guy | August 24, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Now Obama's scared of being upstaged by his bulldog Biden and being marginalized by McCain. So here he is showing his true colors...a standard operating Chicago Machine politician. So much for the "outsider" who descended from heaven to bring about "CHANGE!".

Posted by: Dr. Dave | August 24, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

McCain and the Republicans are experts at lying and Barack i sno match at how easily, and cleverly the repukes lie... McSame always starts with a sincere 'My friends...and whispers lies" you know McSame is lying when he talks matter f factly and throws a few lies here and there, all McSame has to do is throw 2 or 3 seeds every day and they add up fast.

Meanwhile the Dems just react to the lies, so the GOP keeps the Dems on their toes.

The Dems need to stop playing the GOP game, and stop reacting to their lies, and instead start throwing their own seeds.

Sean Hannity, Laura Ingrams of the world are a disgrace to humanity, journalism and America, for they speak for petty self interest 24/7 and not for whats best for the nation, these shills should be hanged for their treasonous roles.

Barack show some spine, and really attack McSwine, show America what a real tyrant the little crooked twerp really is, there are tons of videos of mcSwine attacking, using foul language, and shamefully insulting and using vulgar language in public meetings.

McSwine is McInsane and thats what needs to be told the world, this guy is MAD and will be worse than the other little twerp Bush.

Tell Americans how dangerous this crackpot really is, how he cheated on his first wife and how he dumped her after she got disfigured in a crash, how this idiot got special treatment in the Hanoi Hilton because he opened up like a canary for the Vietcong.

Posted by: McCain McSame McSwine | August 24, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Now Who will McCain Pick They have shot their self in the foot when it comes to Romney McCain released attack ads on the Biden Pick because Biden said some things negitve toward Obama during the primary.

Romney called McCain dishonest during the Primary, and more.

Huckabee came in second during the Primary not Romney., This wont go over well with the Christian Base.

Romney and McCain would be the Super Rich ticket. In a middle Class Election.

Biden will win working class Votes, Romney will remind the working class he is the guy that lays you off.

Biden will be filmed going to church every sunday, Romney will be filmed going to a Mormon church, making the base of the GOP more then Uncomfortable.

So who should McCain pick??

Huckabee would energize the Base.

Huckabee is veiwed as Middle class, Winning overwhelming working class voters.

Huckabee didnt attack McCain during the primary.

Huckabee can hold his own with anyone in debates.

Huckabee Has 1 house

Huckabee is the most logical, despite what the bloggers that are on Romney's payroll say. By the way, the radio host of Republican talk radio
they are on the Romney payroll too. Romney should learn he cant buy an election. He outspent every candidate during the primarys, even outspending Huckabee 6 to 1. Huckabee still got more delegates.

http://www.HotPres.com McCain Dui? http://www.duihlepguide.com

Posted by: John | August 24, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Now Who will McCain Pick They have shot their self in the foot when it comes to Romney McCain released attack ads on the Biden Pick because Biden said some things negitve toward Obama during the primary.

Romney called McCain dishonest during the Primary, and more.

Huckabee came in second during the Primary not Romney., This wont go over well with the Christian Base.

Romney and McCain would be the Super Rich ticket. In a middle Class Election.

Biden will win working class Votes, Romney will remind the working class he is the guy that lays you off.

Biden will be filmed going to church every sunday, Romney will be filmed going to a Mormon church, making the base of the GOP more then Uncomfortable.

So who should McCain pick??

Huckabee would energize the Base.

Huckabee is veiwed as Middle class, Winning overwhelming working class voters.

Huckabee didnt attack McCain during the primary.

Huckabee can hold his own with anyone in debates.

Huckabee Has 1 house

Huckabee is the most logical, despite what the bloggers that are on Romney's payroll say. By the way, the radio host of Republican talk radio
they are on the Romney payroll too. Romney should learn he cant buy an election. He outspent every candidate during the primarys, even outspending Huckabee 6 to 1. Huckabee still got more delegates.

http://www.HotPres.com McCain Dui? http://www.duihlepguide.com

Posted by: John | August 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I have a question:

Why are those Senators who voted for the war in Iraq criticized and negatively judged, held accountable? If I remember correctly, the President of the USA presented the supporting facts and documentation. The Secretary of State, Colin Powell, went before the United Nations with documents, slide show, and other supporting evidence to justify this war.
Can you please tell me why members of Congress and/or the American people could have known or even guessed that their President and their Secretary of State would flat out lie to them?
If their judgement and their vote was based on their credibility and faith in their President and the Secretary of State, who have been proven to have lied to them, why do we hold everyone other than those who lied accountable? Could we have known, AT THAT TIME, that we had, in fact, not an Administration with integrity, if not intelligence, as has since been proven?
I ask this question with complete sincerity. In retrospect, so many books have been published by those in this Administration who knew AT THE TIME, that things were bogus, the real question is, Why did not anyone, including the "honorable" Secretary of State, speak up and speak out!?

Posted by: TJ | August 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Where is the John McCain who was a fearless leader on immigration?

Where is the John McCain who criticized the president's wartime tax cuts?

Where is the John McCain who condemned the intolerance of the religious right?

Where is the John McCain who slammed the Swift Boat authors?

Something drastic has happened to the free-thinking John McCain most of America knew and loved.

He's become Candidate McCain who definitely has sold out to the extremists in his party.

He is a shell, an empty suit if you will of his former self. Yes, it is time for a change! Turn him out!

Posted by: dpi2Dan | August 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The Messiah, the "magic N E G R O", is trying to act tough, not easy to do coming from a radical wimp, incapable of saying anything nice about this great country. Just another miserable, angry, and elitist liberal running for the office of the POTUS, just to feed his growing ego.

"Imagine no liberals, what a wonderful world it would be!"

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 24, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Who are these idiots voting for McIdiot. Are they born to humans?

Posted by: Chinky | August 24, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Ben! And thank you for your services and sacrifices. We need more people like you in this world!!! God Bless!!
S

Posted by: Steve | August 24, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ben doesn't have much choice except to defend the morons who started the Mess'apotamia, otherwise he might have to reflect on his lack of comprehension of world events. I'm sure you are trying your best Ben, given your indoctrinated view of the world. Saddam was an evil scumbag but a bullet to the brain by an assassin would have saved tens of thousands of lives and a few trillion dollars that ended up in the hands of some other scumbags who manufacture weapons or otherwise profit from war. It seems to me that a great many veterans also take this view.

Back to the story. if I was Obama I would factually document the numerous lies and exaggerations of the McCain campaign, then ask the American people if they wanted a liar for a President. Well, do you?

Posted by: Mike Robinson | August 24, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Good one. At least I put my name. If punched you in the throat would you fight back? Would you call the police? Unfortunately for the Iraqi people, especially the Kurds in Halabja, they could not do either. And you're right, It was a dream to serve and give. The quintessential democrat, Kennedy proudly proclaims we as Americans are unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of human rights, and everyone cheers... until we act on it. I'm sure glad we don't have to depend on little bit%#es like you.

Posted by: ben | August 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Ben "served" in his dreams. Get a clue, Benny boi.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Ben. If you had to shed blood, I wish you had been asked to do so in defense of Americans rather than Iraqis.

There were many of dictators out there a lot worse than Saddam in 2003 if that was our objective in IZ.

Posted by: William Hames | August 24, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I can really identify with John McCain because my Grandmother has Alzheimer's too. She's not a belligerent old coot like 'ol Johnny boy is though.

Posted by: Joko | August 24, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Good words Obama!!!

"talking tough and acting dumb"

that's exactly what we need to say: MCCAIN IS DUMB SENILE AND DEFICIENT!
GIMME A F*CKIN' BREAK, HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES HE OWNS! ALZAIHMER?

Obama/Biden 08/12

Posted by: jack | August 24, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

This article belongs on the opinion page!! It is not just a news story.

Unless the "reporter that wrote it has a quote form the campaign (I don't see one), statements like "was staged to convey an intimate feeling and present Obama on a human scale just days before he will address tens of thousands in Denver" do not belong in a news story.

This is ascribing motive that was not substantiated by the real reporting.

In this age of BLOGs real reporters need to be held to a higher standard!!!

Posted by: John G. | August 24, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I tried having a conversation with a man who had his tongue cut out by members of Saddam's regime. I'm sure all of you little cry-babies complaining about being lied to have stood in the dirt home of a starving family in Iraq and told them they weren't worth it. And as far as the little b#$ch that wrote about the sunni/shia struggle. You don't know jack Sh&$t about it so stop trying to pawn off your thesaurus and google news as original thought. At least I bled for them.

Posted by: Ben | August 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The unfortunate truth is that Biden's early support of the war is the least of his problems. Biden has made so many racist "gaffes" that all the GOP has to do is regularly insert reminders to erode the Democratic base. And those are not all sound bites--anyone who seems to believes that poor performance in DC schools is related to the proportion of "disfunctional" African American families and other minority families in that city, and other weird perspectives, will single handedly destry this election for the Democrats. It's not an exact quote, but read it yourself--there's no mistaking his views on this. Very poor choice of words at the least. I remain undecided but I see this as another sign of Obama's questionable judgement to pick Biden. I will reserve my final judgment till I see if McCain chooses any better.

Posted by: alittleskeptic | August 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

McSame is a deficient old fart who's totally senile. How can anyone vote for such an idiot? Maybe all republicans are deficient?

I don't know.

Posted by: jack | August 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

this election is either going to "screw" us or save us

Posted by: Nyc-nk | August 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I was a POW in Vietnam, which is why I can't remember how many houses I own. It's also the justification for every other dumbass thing I've ever done.

Posted by: John McCain | August 24, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow...no comments from the Republican Arse-bags? Usually the comment pages are full of em

Posted by: tom | August 24, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

It was clear that the Bush Administration was going to lie and bully everyone into the Iraq War. When you don't have an economic policy you have to blow sh*t up and wave a flag in order to get re-elected.

Biden's plan for partitioning Iraq will come under close scrutiny. The facts are that a) we are not going to bribe the Sunnis forever, b) the Shias don't trust the Sunnis to be in the security force, and c) if we don't do something, a large-scale civil war will erupt.

If the Bush Administration continues to lie (and say that it was the surge in troops that decreased violence), and then uses lies to cover up the lies, then the reality of the situation on the ground in Iraq will never be addressed. McCain is an arse: he talks about reality, but does nothing about it. Part of the reason violence went down in Baghdad was because the ethnic bloodletting played itself out. What kind of strategy is that? It was ethnic cleansing. The same sh*t we called the Serbs on.

What is McCain's definition of victory in Iraq?

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama showed strong executive leadership in selecting Biden for VP. Successful executives know the importance of surrounding themselves with strong, knowledgeable and capable associates. Those who see the selection as an admission of a weakness are really clueless or at the level of the writer for the McCain campaign's daily talking points. Additionally, the Republican Party does not want capable leadership in government, i.e., Bush/Cheney; only palm tree personalities who easily bend to the banking and corporate interests.

Posted by: Lou R | August 24, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Biden like many who voted for the war has long since voiced his regret. Lets face it, we were lied to. Only a nut cases like Mccain would still be for it. He has never even had a regret, or second thought. He is a sick dangerous man.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Now we are talking. I guess the vacation is over. I am not sure the daughter joke works, but hey, some humor. I think Obama is ready to settle this the old fashioned way. A good old fashioned political brawl. http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Posted by: acarponzo | August 24, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

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