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Lieberman to Speak at GOP Convention

By Perry Bacon Jr.
Sen. Joe Lieberman, completing a dramatic political transformation over the last eight years, is now scheduled to speak at the Republican National Convention next month, according to GOP sources.

The Connecticut senator, who calls himself an "independent Democrat" and attends some Democratic meetings on Capitol Hill, has become one of the McCain's closet allies, campaigning with him everywhere and rumored to be on his list of potential running mates. Lieberman is now on a trip to Georgia with Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, another close McCain ally. The pair is visiting the war-torn state in their capacities as members of the Senate Armed Services Committee, while also effectively acting as McCain's emissaries there.

Lieberman has at times sharply criticized Sen. Barack Obama, particularly on his opposition to the Iraq war, which Lieberman forcefully backed.

Lieberman, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee in 2000 and a White House candidate for the presidency himself four years later, seems unlikely to give the kind of fiery speech that then-Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.) offered against then Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry at the 2004 GOP convention in New York. Lieberman's speeches introducing McCain tend to focus on the Arizona senator's work on bipartisan compromises in the Senate and their shared views on Iraq.

Lieberman joins a list of speakers at the convention that already includes President Bush, Vice President Cheney and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

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I have never seen such hate spilled forth! Senator Lieberman is trying. I'm not happy he is speaking at the Republican convention because I'm a Democrat, but he is speaking his conscience. How many of you have ever run for public office? If you don't like something, stop complaining, stop using curse words, and learn how to spell. for starters. The Republicans are responsible for many of the ills of our country, but the Democrats have been lazy. It takes more than politicians to put us in this mess. The public has to speak up and demand change. If you don't like the two candidates running for office, write in who you think will do a better job. At least in America we can still do that. Write your congressional delegates if you don't like something. Volunteer at the polls. Work at a homeless shelter. Do something other than use verbal attacks against our leaders, and against any religious or racial group. Dictatorship happens when good people do nothing. Think about that.

Posted by: anonymous | August 20, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Joe Moderate:

To be fair, Hillary DIANE Clinton was no "moderate" either. Technically, Senator Lieberman is an INDEPENDENT-Democrat (so far ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Democrats-
Lieberman was not liberal enough for the Democratic Party so you gave your support to someone else leaving him no choice but to run as an independent. Of course the Dems lost because they still don't realize that most Americans are not liberal. A few million moderates decide the elections. The radical Left and extreme Right always cancel each other out. Ask yourself which candidate is more moderate and the answer will be the next President? That's a fact! The radical Left has hijacked the Democratic Part leaving us the likes of McCain and Lieberman to vote for. The Dems had an easy walk to the White House and they pissed it away by picking the poster child for the radical Left as their candidate. You blew it for all moderate Democrats!

Posted by: Joe Moderate | August 20, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

mountainman:

It's not "my party" as I am registered Independent.

marc:

We don't have a "theocracy" by outlawing REAL murders, do we?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman, your mother must be beyond ashamed of you. Sucking up to a WASP to advance your political career. Shame on you. You are turning your back on the party and the people who have supported you for many, many years.

Posted by: Dad | August 20, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

And the Republican's called me a flip flopper. Here is my running mate from just four years ago now flip flopping his way across the stage at the GOP convention like a trained seal.

Mr. McCain, just what are the rules on flip flopping? When is it okay to flip and and when is it okay to flop? You seem to be the self appointed arbitrator of who is a flip flopper.

Me thinks its permissable when your side does it but not ours. Am I on to something here?

Posted by: John Kerry | August 20, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

but, if McCain replaces a liberal Supreme Court Justice with another pro-choicer, I will never vote for a Republican again.
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It must the that scary "choice" word. Why oh why do Republicans hate freedom so much? They claim to be the party of individual rights then spend all their time trying to put the Government in every American's bedroom and cram their backwards religion down everyone's throats.

It is about time that real Americans took this country back which is why the GOP needs to go! If you want a Theocracy please move to Iran.

Posted by: marc | August 20, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

They'll let this scumbag speak at the convention, but not Ron Paul? They deserve the losses they are about to accrue. On the other hand, the Democrats are owned by the same criminal syndicate. I still can't decide which candidate will get my vote... Barr or Baldwin

Posted by: Ray | August 20, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Almost as great as it will be to see Obama win the election will be to see the Dems add to their majority and kick that poodle Lieberman on his rear end. For the sake of the Dem majority , that loser was spared the treatment any other person would have got had they acted in such a repugnant way. What a sad representative for Connecticut.

I don't think this has anything to do with Judaism or Jews in general and its sad to see some of the comments on this board. What we should be talking about is the Israel before American Zionist lobby in America. Not Jews!

Posted by: TK | August 20, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

The worst thing about Lieberman is not his lack of loyalty to the people who elected him or his loyalty to the GOP. It is the fact that he ran interference for the Bush White House and stopped any investigation of the Katrina fiasco. Alot of Americans lost their lives due to Bush's incompetence and Lieberman's actions totally dishonor their memory.

Posted by: Cal | August 20, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

What do you expect from the Likud Senator from Connecticut? This guy is obsess with the security of Israel, a country that has over 100 nuclear warheads. I believe Israel can defend itself thank you. Because of this obsession, this guys is willing to walk with people who have screwed the country and detroyed the middle class with their blatant greed. One has to wonder, as Joe Klein observes, what comes first Israel or our beloved American. This guy went even further as to question Senator Obama patriotism by transforming himself into John McCain attack dog, using the same tactic during the Nazi era. And McCain with his the $100 million, 11 houses, his own private jet and the $520 shoes. No wonder McCain does not feel the same pain the people are feeling. For god sake, the man's budget his $750 thousand a month. Now how many of us can afford that?

Posted by: Gerald | August 20, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is a turncoat. He is sucking up to McCain probably in hopes of being offered some post. The voters from his state of Connecticut need to put in someone who isn't going to change sides just because he thinks he can benefit from it.

I liked Humpty Dumpty's (posted 453 pm)description of Lieberman; however, it's an insult to poodles who are really intelligent dogs.

Posted by: abby0802 | August 20, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

With Lieberman and McCain in the Whitehouse the Jew will have total control of America!

Posted by: Abe | August 20, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Yes but the Republicans feel we need a refresher on 911. Helps keep the spirit alive in Iraq.

A noun, a verb, 911 and the Republican Convention. Thank god I have Tivo!!

Without this new gig Giuliani would be auditioning for Exlax commericals on television.

Posted by: Bob | August 20, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

My it is sad to see how many misguided people there are out there.

If you want to kill America and what America stands for - Elect Obama.
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Yes but how often do we get to elect someone with purple lips, is a member of al_Qaeda and was educated in a madrasa in Indonesia.

I'm tired of electing tired old white guys who just want to continue the ways of the Greed Over Principle party.

Jump on the Obama train my friend and set your mind free. McSurge just doen't really make a whole lot of sense.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Joe Lieberman reminds me of one of those white poodles that use to appear on the Ed Sullivan Show. They would come out wearing a pink tutu and stand up on their back feet and pirouette in circles for the audience.

Joe Lieberman should be embarassed to look at himself shaving every morning when he says "Well, I must go to work again today serving the best interests of my constituents and this wonderfull nation. Where men can be free to be whoever and whenever they want to be."

How is it that he hasn't been tarred and feathered yet and put in to public stocks by the people who voted for him?

He wears the title "Independant" with pride like he has more awareness than any of the other 99 senators.

I would suggest he is terribly confused, can't remember where he came from and is clueless as to where he is going.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | August 20, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

My it is sad to see how many misguided people there are out there.

If you want to kill America and what America stands for - Elect Obama.

Have you not seen who he associates with, my goodness you people are slow for being so well informed. Go and read other news sources other than NY Times or San Francisco Chronicle, watch other TV news that CNN or NBC, listen to other radio stations.

Posted by: American | August 20, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is a losing cause and a fake -- face it.

On second thought, I like it that all of you Republicans, including you JakeD, are hemming and hawing about Lieberman, because you know that if McCain picked him as VP, the wingnuts in St. Paul will revolt and your party will implode.

Posted by: mountainman | August 20, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe they are going to allow Giuliani to speak at the GOP convention, and I have not seen then letting Ron Paul speak. Giuliani has about 3 delegates, and Ron Paul will have about 50. Talk about a media blackout again. Wake up people of the USA.

Posted by: JIm Lundberg, San Diego | August 20, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Joe Lieberman should be tried for Treason if you consider his positions toward Israel. Given a choice between the best interests of Israel or the USA, hands down he supports Israel.

I don't think I can ever travel through the state of Connecticut again knowing they had an opportunity to spare the nation from this cancer and blew it when they voted this weasel back into the Senate.

The best reason not to support McCain is the fact that John McCain wants Lieberman to be an active member of his administration.

Posted by: PeteGio | August 20, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

McCain wants to win at all costs. He'll do whatever it takes. As he wrote in his book it's his ambition to become president.

Even using a Faux Dem like Lieberman. (Now there a real flip flopper for ya. The guy can't even decide what party he want to be in. He isn't on one side of the fence or the other. He doesn't even sit on the fence. But instead scurries back and foorth through the tunnel underneath it.)

Some are taking bets that Lieberman will change his party affiliation yet again and be McCain's VP choice. I really hope so.

Because then more votes will go to Bob Barr and then look out America it will be a nutty nutty race to the finish line.

Posted by: Sparky | August 20, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

CupOfJoe:

Who was standing next to the "wrinkly old white haired dude", whispering in his ear at the Saddleback Forum? Oh, yeah, that's right -- no one.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow... the republicans couldn't find anyone who wanted to stand next to the wrinkly old white haired dude McCain and whisper sweet nothings into his ear to correct his mistakes so they had to go get a democrat- Lieberman

Posted by: CupOfJoe | August 20, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Darth Nader:

Good points. I am willing to give McCain one last chance -- Bush could not have done any better with his nominations -- but, if McCain replaces a liberal Supreme Court Justice with another pro-choicer, I will never vote for a Republican again.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Jeb:

Do you also think that abolitionists should have "stayed home" too?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Yay, first guy to post on here, he gets it, back from iraq, To all those people who voted for Bush because he's supposidly against abortion...Abortion is still legal and this country sucks, so what good did it do.
One issue voters should just stay home

Posted by: Jeb | August 20, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Democrat, and I'm not from Connecticut; in fact, I'm about as Republican and conservative as one can be in the spirit of Ronald Reagan. However, if Joe Lieberman is selected to be the vice presidential nominee by John McCain, I will support and vote for them both with a passion. While I'm totally against Senator Lieberman's position on the rights of the unborn, he is right on target with just about everything else; war on terror, domestic energy production, conservative values, and the shift away from a dangerously divided nation.

As Americans who really care for our country, we have all changed, usually for the better, as time went by. I would invite this fine gentleman and great American who has served our country as a warrior and legislator to consider all of our positions on abortion, individual rights guaranteed us under the Constitution, a successful free market economy, and America's rightful place in the world, even if we won't eye to eye on absolutely everything. Certainly, I would welcome a badly needed bridge over a seemingly hopeless rift in our polarized society.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 20, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I endorse Barack Husein Obama for President of the United States.

Posted by: William Ayers ( Leader of the WeatherUnderground Terrorist Network) | August 20, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

the answer is Ron Paul

Posted by: ck | August 20, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Darth,

The black/white thing has long been a smokescreen.

Big Business has long had control of Politics. Look at what Teddy Roosevelt did, and why? Look at what FDR did, and why?

Big Business wanted to get rid of FDR- they didn't want a new deal for regular people.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EF44C30DB169D3A9

The race thing is a subplot. The money, the power- that's the thing.

And Obama is basically a new deal kind of guy. Health care & education for the ppl, etc.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Funny how so many people have opinions on "Jews" and speak so frankly giving question on if they are bigots or not (wanna rally against immigrants next too?). Lieberman does not represent all Jews. Jews come in many colors, political beliefs, and even religious observance. Funny how zealous bigotry comes from either side, in this case from those who feel Lieberman is a traitor/right-winger; when the far-right debase Jewry for voting Dem (or claim vast global conspiracies; it'd be funny if it wasn't historically used to kill and hate us).

As a Jew and political scientist, its clear that Obama will gain a majority of Jewish votes (a bloc that votes Dem most of the time), but polls show McCain marginally better than other Repubs in the past. So even though some Jews are turned off by Obama's "inexperience" or "questionable judgment" a majority will vote for Obama (economy, social services, energy). Israel is not even in the top 3 issues for most Democratic Jews, despite what a couple people said here. Even amongst those who cite it as a top voting priority, its still split. And as such a small minority, our votes are not a powerful swing like other blocs are where the candidates are focusing.

Also, at least Lieberman works with both parties and realizes both parties don't have our best interests at heart (even if he still caucuses with the Dems; but has worked with McCain for years since McCain was one of few Repubs who went across the table). I think its time for 3rd party and bipartisan tickets, but thats just idealistic me talking.

Personally, I think both candidates have serious issues and failings. I just don't debase and blame it on their race and religion (hot flaming topics this year: Romney too and let's not forget the serious gender inequality with H.C). Seriously people, haven't we moved past this form of baseless hate?

So can we get back to the merits and the issues now?

Posted by: David Pereira | August 20, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Why should any American vote. We have a terrible choice, neither one is worthy of being President. But the big question is, Why does America, "that means you & me", allow the Nations Press to have so much influence in picking the candidates who will hold the so called elected offices in this country. The Press can sway public opinion about anything & they do. We've become a nation of sheep & we'd follow Lou Dobs or Rush Limbaugh anyplace .... Baaaa !!!

Posted by: SadAmerican | August 20, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

As far as the Republicans having a racist path -- both parties do. Republicans were the party of Abraham Lincoln. Democrats used to be the more racist ones (dixiecrats, etc). The two parties realigned somewhere in the 60s or so. I hate to say it, but Bush's cabinet is more diverse than Clinton's was. I hate to say this, because I'd like to think Democrats are the good guys, but nothing they have done since Carter would indicate this. Clinton raised the military budget and cut welfare and social spending. This is what Republicans are supposed to do. Dems are supposed to help their consituents. They haven't done this for a long time. Obama is the same thing. He may seem more virtuous, and maybe he is, but the Democrat senators and reps are taking huge amounts of money from the same interest groups as Republicans. This is why the outcomes are the same, whether we have jackarses or elephants in power -- they both poop on us all!

Posted by: Darth Nader | August 20, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

TC,

There's a case for superdelegates in the dem party. It's done for two reasons: First, they don't want another Jimmy Carter showing up in DC without having a working relationship with members of congress; Second, they (the mainstream Ds) don't want the bleeding heart liberal fringe/base of the party to vote in some anti-war guy like McGovern every four years.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have been saying they will overturn Roe V. Wade for some 30 years now. They will never do it. That carrot is what gets the evangelical vote. Similarly, the Democrats have their health care carrot. This has been dangling in front of the American voter since JFK, and it will still dangle. When will people wise up and realize that it is interest groups that control politics. All you are doing is voting. What did you contribute? The interest groups who contribute money will get their interests represented. After all, all of that money allows the candidates to lie to you some more through campaign commericals and advertising. If Obama does get elected -- look at the outcome. Look at the actions. You will see that all of these pie in the sky promises and high ideals will not be executed. The Democrats are on the take as much as the Republicans. They both dangle the carrot of "campaign finance reform" but would you give yourself a pay cut? Of course not, and neither will they. They use campaign money as supplemental income. I have to say, working at a corporation, we are not allowed to have such conflicts of interest. Then again, it is government that makes those rules, and they are unwilling to have those rules apply to themselves.

Did you know that members of congress and congressional staff routinely engage in insider trading? When a bill is going to be introduced on the floor, and people know it will impact an industry, it is quite common for staffers and congress-people to buy stocks and the next day, the legislation hits the floor, and the stock price goes up. I cannot do this at my corporation -- it is considered insider trading. I also do not hold an office for 2-6 years. I can be fired at any time if I do not do my job.

I think we need to hold government accountable to the same standards as business. I'd like even better standards, but right now, they can get away with so much... and they are the ones who decide what they can and cannot get away with. The prisoners are the guards...

It's funny when I hear these people saying they want to clean up corporate America. American government is far more sullied and filthy that corporate America. The points where corporate America are the filthiest are where they intersect with the government (*cough* Halliburton).

Politicians are not heros or great men. They are parasites that lie to you, suck the tax revenues dry, and fail to represent your (the voters') interests. The get richer and richer while in office and after office.

Posted by: Darth Nader | August 20, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Anon,

But if you read the articles in those results, which I'm guessing that people do, especially the ones who wrote the articles (and their families and friends), then it does make you wonder.

Can someone who married into organized crime be elected POTUS?

This is going to be an interesting election.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman had to run as an independent to get elected in his own state. He didn't help Al Gore much did he. But who can help McCain, even the National Rifle Association, "that famous Republican Lobbyist" won't come out & endorse McCain. With Bush's help McCain will be on that slow bus heading West in January. Poor John !!

Posted by: SadAmerican | August 20, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

While it became obvious that Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham are taking a trip across the Atlantic to the Caucasus, the wording of the article was such as to have one thinking of the other Georgia that is closer to South Carolina at first.

Posted by: John Savard | August 20, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I apologize, but I feel compelled to comment on the Post article identified below in perhaps this inappropriate spot, because the Post didn’t offer an opportunity for readers to do so in the appropriate spot… I’m also disappointed that the editor seems for some reason reticent to allow reader discussion of certain controversial political issues… we are left to wonder if that’s due to outside pressure.

MY COMMENT was and is that I have YET TO RUN INTO AN AVERAGE AMERICAN WHO WANTS A SINGLE SUPER-DELEGATE between him and the person he or she chooses to run for the nation’s highest office. It very simply allows the opportunity for the rich and powerful to interfere with true democratic intent, and attempt to smother the voice of the people.

“Democratic Party
Obama Looking to Diminish Superdelegates
By Dan Balz
Barack Obama's campaign will call next week for the creation of a new commission to revise the rules for selecting a presidential nominee in 2012 with a goal of reducing the power of superdelegates, whose role became a major point of contention during the long battle between Obama and Hillary Clinton.”

Posted by: TerrifiedCitizen | August 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

with Obama and Mccaint its democrats=republicans.
case and point Lieberman.
Ron Paul is our only hope

Posted by: rprEVOLution | August 20, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

If you google: mccain married into organized crime ... it turns up 151,000 references. 151,000!

Your guy made a deal with the devil, and he's going down.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:47 PM
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If you do the same for Obama, it turns up 173,000 results. I'm not saying Obama is making deals with the mob or anything, but I do think it is stupid to judge a candidate based on google results.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I fully support Barack Obama for President of the United States.

Posted by: Tony Rezko | August 20, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Out here in the Rocky Mt. West, Democratic/liberal/Jewish voters really don't give a whit about Joe Lieberman -- he represents a small eastern state that didn't have the guts to put him in his place in 2006, but at least he's not speaking at Mile Hi with the next President, Obama. Let him pass into history in St. Paul with Mr. McCain, and as we slam the door on him and Mr. McCain, I hope the doorknob doesn't leave too large of an imprint on their $#@es, cause it's got to hurt.

Posted by: mountainman | August 20, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Look how quickly the antisemitic hate filled leftists pile on to attack a principled man, making a conciencsious choise to support the best person to lead this country for the next four years!

Posted by: Sam | August 20, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I fully support Barack Husein Obama for President of the United States.

Posted by: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad | August 20, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have long been the party of WASPS. And WASPS were institutionally opposed to catholics for a while and to blacks and jews through the late 60s and mid 70s.

Through the mid70s there were provisions in real estate covenants preventing property from being sold to jews or blacks.

The Republican party has a racist past. And when Romney gets the nod for VP, it can kiss Georgia goodbye in November. That's what they get for being superficially religious and breeding a KKK-meets-Bob Jones mindset.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

So sad these guys actually still have any relevance in US politics. Come on lets all do the chant together!!!!

-End Abortion!! is sin we are Pro-life!! (We don't care really, but gets us automatic unwavering support)
-Guns, Guns, Guns (I'm not a republican and I have two, does that make me a terrorist?)
-TERROR IS LOOMING AT YOUR FRONT DOOR!!!

With this half of America will automatically come to beckon thy call.. These bunch of nit-wits are the same ones that elected Bush and Cheney not once but twice... They fall for it hook line and sinker but still have the audacity to complain why the only jobs they can get are at wal-mart, or why they pay $4 plus to gas up their truck. Shut up, go eat your fried mayonnaise balls, and please stop voting!!!..Now we have a guy who's real claim to fame is..Drum roll please....Yes he was shot down in a plane.. Nope he doesn't understand business, nope hes never excelled at anything in his life!! Well other than pandering and telling war stories but Americans shout HERO!!!!, Patriot!!! Ummm wow... How dumb is America? Grampa tell us another story...pleeassseee

Posted by: ErikD | August 20, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

What does Lieberman's religion has to do with this? I'm very disappointed democrat leaving to repub because most of you dems haters, hate religions, race and everything else. YOu have no luck in November with such attitude!
Go McCain at least you are color and religion blind!!!!!!!!!...oh and guess what War HERO and PATRIOT!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I am an independent, but I think democrats are sexy , who ever heard of a great piece of elephant

Posted by: J | August 20, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is living proof of the Tweedledum/Tweedledee nature of Democrats and Republicans. I know Lieberman is now an independent. It's funny, because people think if Gore won in 2000 we would not be at war and we would be driving electric cars. HA! Gore was one of the biggest hawks in congress. He was the only Democrat to support Reagan's invasion of Grenada. Sure, people can change, but more often than not, their talk changes and their actions stay the same. He says to be an environmentalist, while he flies first class and is driven around in a 12-cylinder gas guzzling limo (this is IN HIS MOVIE!!!). Even Hollywood stars who make $20 million per movie are driving around in Priuses. Gore is an old-school elitist -- do as I say, not as I do.

I am personally disgusted with Obama's middle of the road pandering. He is in favor of everyone getting a gun now? Offshore drilling may be OK? I remember when the Democrats offered a choice different than Republicans, but now it seems they are pretty much the same party. Sure, the pundits will make it seem like night and day. They need to in order to get a paycheck. It seems the real differences are abortion and some minor differences on who to tax. Otherwise McCain and Obama are the same. Obama backed off getting the troops out of Iraq. If I vote at all, I will throw away my vote on Nader. He is doing much better in the polls than in 2004... Looks like I am not the only one disgusted with Obama.

Posted by: Darth Nader | August 20, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

wapo,

You keep missing the point. Everyone knows about McCain. This election is not about him, it's a referendum on whether or not Obama has what it takes. That is what people are questioning and it shows more and more as time passes. Obama has very little chance to win regardless of what comes out on McCain.

Posted by: Truthteller | August 20, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman joins the other criminals......
President Bush, Vice President Cheney and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.
OH yea McCain.

Posted by: rob | August 20, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

If you google: mccain married into organized crime ... it turns up 151,000 references. 151,000!

Your guy made a deal with the devil, and he's going down.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Either my cptr's messing up, or nobody's posted in a while. I'm going afk...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Check out this ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXOBH6U89Y

McSame is screwed on the issue of energy if this gets out.

I hope.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

good he might do for McCain what he did for Gore.

Posted by: hero | August 20, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

OK, Harriet, nice job taking the 1/2 hour news hour's punch line, but B.O. could equal Barack Obama...or Bill O'Reilly...LOL. And why would Obama want to alienate Hillaryites? And if he did, why would he try to talk to Bill and Hill to work out a solution for the convention?

I'm just sayin'....

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

B.O. continues to hack on Hillary voters... "Hillary and your supporters, you are not worthy of B.O."
http://wizbangblue.com/2008/04/11/barack-obama-missteps-again-and-again.php

Posted by: Harriet Tubman | August 20, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Alan. that came across to me as taking the high road against McCain's low road, and not wimpy at all.

Each to his own..

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama will win the Jewish vote 70-30.

He out raised McCain $51-27m in July. Hello.

And he raised $8m in 3 hours last week in Calif. Obama has the support of the Jewish community.

They know a racist Republican party... when they've seen it for the past 40 years.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

wapo,

agreed, NY will be Dem for sure. Florida is tilting McCain already in the latest polls.

Posted by: Truthteller | August 20, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

wapo,

We are fine. I will tell you this, when Obama stood in front of the veterans group and said "McCain is being mean to me and I am not gonna be mean to him, so I wish he would stop it" - he looked like a wimp extraordinaire. I am no military nut, but I don't think he came accross as someone I want to be in charge of anything.

Posted by: Alan Combs | August 20, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Turthteller...NY will go Dem anyway, it doesn't matter...Florida will be more interesting...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

THE JEWISH VOTE

I have many Jewish friends in Florida and New York, and this vote will not lean Democratic. There still remains a lot of animosity against the blacks because of Lewis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Turthteller | August 20, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

LOL, KP...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Augh. You make me feel so guilty, alan. Sorry, man.

Anyway, I like to have a more optimistic outlook, even if it means being disappointed in the end. If I were to be a pessimist, I'd end up being sad before I have to.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

RE: Japan and UK and guns.
The need for firearms is inversely proportional to the degree of civility of the citizenry. Bad behavior = Annie, get the gun; civilized culture = no big need to be armed. There's a reason why relatively few guns in UK and Japan are needed (and Scandinavia, Canada, Australia etc.). In light of that criterion, I would recommend that all Americans arm themselves.

Posted by: KP the J | August 20, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"Truth"-teller. Watch the video, here, please.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/19/obama-hits-back-at-mccain-cheap-shots-in-vfw-speech/

Also, notice that Obama is outraising McSame in terms of Veterans' donations.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

wapo,

Read my post again, slowly this time please. I never called you a 3 year old, I merely said we taught our not to lash out so I have hope for you and your ilk.

Look, they all lie and we all know that so let's not ride our unicorn into the world of illusion.

I am merely pointing out what you can expect to happen this election and at the upcoming convention.

Posted by: Alan Combs | August 20, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Guess none of the B.O. lovers have anything to say on this one?

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/17/obamessiah-has-nowhere-to-hide-on-this-one-the-walls-are-closing-in/

So we agree, it's pretty bad.

So someone said to show what McCain has done better... well there's one thing! He voted against Infanticide(killing live-born babies), along with all the other Democrats and others!

Posted by: Ouch | August 20, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is a Republican, and the people of Connecticut have either been completely fooled, or they're idiots for electing him again.

Posted by: True Democrat | August 20, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Following is the list of keynote speakers and topics at the upcoming Democratic Convention:

Marion Barry --- Drug Abuse

Rep. Denny Kucinich --- How to garner 1 % of the vote in every primary entered

Sen. Chrissy Dodd --- Obtaining Countrywide loans

Sen. Chucky Schumer --- How to initiate a run on a bank

Jesse Jackson ---- Marital fidelity and Castration

John Edwards ---- Ambulance Chasing and Spousal support in time of need

Sen. Theodore Kennedy --- Driver education and How to stop a pending autopsy

James McGreevey ---- Gay rights

Mayor Ray Nagin --- Emergency evacuation preparations

Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick – Email etiquette in the workplace

Al Sharpton ---- Race relations

Sen. Evan Bayh --- How to ignore the Liberal wing of the Democratic Party and support the war in Iraq

Al Gore --- Snow Removal

Louis Farrakhan --- Muslims in America and Muslim in the White House

Posted by: gary | August 20, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I actually think it will be interesting to see the way the Jewish demographic splits this election, b/c of all the lies about Muslim Obama and stuff. Lieberman would add an unexpected twist.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

wapo,

Looks at the Russia and Georgia war. McCain was clear and decisive, while Obama talked for 20 minutes and didn't say a thing.

I know it's hard to understand, but maybe when it's all done Bill Mahr and you can go have a beer. Oh yeah, even he said on Larry King last night that Obama is a huge disappointment. So maybe not.

Posted by: Truthteller | August 20, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Chill out Alan, you hit at me for name-calling, and then compare me to a three-year old? Can your 3-year old spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E??

Anyway, I had thought you were a republican, and responded accordingly, but now you reveal that you're the middle-ground guy. Fooled me...;)

Sorry, dude, but when Republicans repeat their lies day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day....it gets old. And, so, of course I'm gonna lash out. Chill, my friend.

Let's build a better world tgdr.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if this election will be even more emotional and controversial than the Jackson-Adams knock-down-drag-out.

At the end of the day, if you people think that a man who married into an organized crime family can be elected POTUS then you have lost it. It's like 1984 with Ferraro, but worse.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Let's see if the Jewish vote is with McCain...McCain's father did the cover up of the attack of the US Liberty intellegence ship that was attacked in the 1960's by Israel. It was covered up and never investigated. When McCain's son, John, was asked to investigate in the senate he refused!!! Many families still want answers as to why family members were killed and injured. Israel tried to totally destroy the ship. Is this just pay back to the McCain family if the Jewish vote is behind him? Let's watch...

Posted by: zakidzaki | August 20, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The dirt on McCain is this:
John McCain has served our country not only through putting his own life on the line as a service member and protecting our Constitution and way of life through one of simplest yet possibly most sacrificial ways available, but also as a public service member (congress and senate) for over 18 years. If you question Mr. McCain's service to our country, look at his voting record at this government site: http://votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=53270
And although Mr. McCain may not be perfect in every way, he has a track record for you to look at and see what he is both capable of, and intends to do in the future.

On the other hand, looking at B.O.'s history in public service, well there isn't much besides him being in cahoots with the criminal Tony Rezko. So then you are left to look at both his current behavior, which he is a master flip-flopper(does he really know what he wants?), and his past life and relationships, DO I EVEN NEED TO GO THERE? IT'S VERY DIM...

Do what makes sense. Don't be the sheep running off the cliff.

Posted by: Harriet Tubman | August 20, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

wapo,

I know it's hard for you to articulate yourself without name calling and insults, but I won't give up on you - we eventually taught our 3 year old that when you are angry, try to be civilized and not lash out at other because you are upset.

Now, here is what I say. Republicans will lose seats in both houses this fall without a doubt, but McCain will win the White House because of the candidate we Dems put up. This is why you are angry, but try to behave like a man and not a boy.

Posted by: Alan Combs | August 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"Truth"-teller, as always, your posts lack solid arguments, or even substance. All you have is offense, no defense at all. And when the prez gets that 3 Am phone call from a foreign leader, or something, and the words he says decide the fate of the world, do you want Mr. Iraq-Pakistan Border/BombBomBomb Iran/Veto every beer on the line??

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Wait, you say you're against McSame? Now I'm all confused... XD

LOL--J, nice post. I wonder how many others got the reference...

Harriet, the UK banned guns, as did Japan, and gues who has fewer murders per capita? Us or them? Hint: It's them.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Bravo to Alan Combs on some fair and balanced analysis finally.

As I read through this thread, the case the wapo and other make by toting the Dem party line of trying to tie McCain to Bush is a failed strategy. People aren't this stupid, and there's no truth in the old saying if you repeat something enough people will believe it.

It will all boil down to the 3AM phone call, and Obama will never get elected. Take it to the bank.

Posted by: Truthteller | August 20, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Also, Alan, we are not the ones avoiding the issues here. Your own post, which goes out of its way to scream about the upcoming disaster in the Democratic party and avoid talking about substantive issues that the voters care about is evidence that it is REPUBLICANS who know it is their party that is in trouble this fall. And when Barack Obama steps up on January 20th, to take the Oath of Office and end the worst presidency in American history, I will look back on this, and think, God, there are a buncha idiots out there, but all's well that ends well.

To bad you won't be able to do the same.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Liberman is a good vice presidential prick for Mccain

Posted by: J | August 20, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Somebody tell Joe to pick up the pace and sparkle. He's so tedious, portentious and self important that some of us have to read a book while he is talking.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 20, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

If you're planning on Banning guns in America, at least don't lie about it:
http://oflifeandliberty.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-tells-little-lie.html

Posted by: Harriet | August 20, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

wapo

McCain is an experienced Senator who understands the military, the processes in the Senate and House, and is a natural leader who speaks plainly, truthfully and to the point. He's not afraid to take a stand.

Of course, I am rooting against him, but the American electorate looks for these character traits, not the articulation of theory and utopia. This will be what decides the election, and all the indicators point to a McCain victory. See today's Rueters/Zogby poll.

Posted by: Alan Combs | August 20, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Alan,

The dirt on McCain is going to come out. It started to this past weekend:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
"“McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona.”

The NYT has said that they - and the WaPo - are vetting McCain and that once people know the truth about him then the polls won't be close again. Is it a bluff? Are they too cowardly to publish the truth about McCain? I think the genie is starting to come out of the bottle.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman has no principles. He'll fit in well at the GOP convention.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 20, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

pure evil in the world does have a face now that Sharone is gone... the World Jewish Congress would have it no other way...

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 20, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Harriet T. | August 20, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, Alan, let's see you make a case for McSame...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy,

And Sen. McCain put untold thousands (I bet the $112,000 figure is a lie) in his pocket, as a bribe, from Charles Keating.

And he got off scot-free.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I didn't see that Franky posted that comment in reply to a comment from Jake. Franky, I haven't ever advocated not spamming....or spamming. Meh. That was Jake.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic party is teatering on the edge of disintigration. This is evidenced by the angry posts here by the Barack Husein Obama supporters who get angrier by the day as their frustration with their choice of a candidate who is on a clear path to losing the election. The convention will show this to be even more true once Hillary and Obama people square off and the Hillarys say "we told you so".

I will keep doing my part each night, but I believe we will be in for 4 more years of a Republican White House.

Posted by: Alan Combs | August 20, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Harriet:

You don't grasp the concepts of the senate's Cloture Rule, or even the presidential veto. Otherwise you'd have realized that your first paragraph is utter nonsense.

The charges in your third paragraph are a sampling of the silliest, least-informed, most emotionally indulgent, and most disrespectful hate propaganda being spewed by win-at-all-costs demagogues.

And your lifelong defender of the Constitution has been a supporter of unreasonable search and seizure, denial of habeas corpus, and cruel and unusual punishment. He has also shown abject disregard for Article 1 Section 8 -- specifically Congress' powers to "make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces", and to "make Rules concerning Captures".

But he was an honorable POW, so he's automatically fit to fill the most difficult executive office in the world...

Posted by: rat-terrier | August 20, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

LOL.. Jake u have a bunch more comments than 1 here yourself, although I'm not sure that they count as comments, because they completely lack substance, so....

Anyway, I'm not spamming, I just type fast. And it's ridiculously easy to answer your pathetic writings, so why should I not go ahead?

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama votes for infanticide, even though majority of all other democrats, pro-choice groups, and everyone else votes against:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/17/obamessiah-has-nowhere-to-hide-on-this-one-the-walls-are-closing-in/

Posted by: Ouch | August 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Oh, whoops, completely misread that one. Sorry, harriet...LOL my B

Chill out, my man...LAWL

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is a sad character at this point in his political life. He is fervently pro-war since he mistakenly sees this as being in the best interests of Israel. However, the Iraq War has been a disaster for all concerned including the families of the more than 4000 dead US soldiers, 100,000 dead Iraqis, the US taxpayer, and for the peace process in the Middle East. It has been great for the Blackwaters and Haliburtons of the world. His dogged adherence to the failed war policies of Bush (and now McCain) placed him at odds with his party. He is now bitter and willing to strike back in any way he can. That he is a mouthpiece for an uninformed, knee-jerk " all war all the time" McCain who is so confused that Joe has to correct him while on camera marks a pathetic end to Lieberman's career. As soon as the elections are over, no matter who wins the White House, the Democratic senate will strip him of all committee seniority. Lieberman has become an unwitting tool of the McCain campaign managers which makes him allies with Karl Rove and his band of Big Lie and Smear thugs. Too bad Joe, your clouded vision has cost you a much better place in history.

Posted by: jefflz | August 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Franky:

Once per thread is more than enough.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:57 PM

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LOL - Take you're own advice Mr WaPo Spammer. 1 Post per thread is more than enough from you.

Posted by: Franky | August 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Also, Harriet, you say that political dissidents will be rounded up under Obama?? 1) you have no basis for this claim, and

2) How about politically motivated hirings for gov't jobs? Arrest and detainment without charge of NONCOMBATANT AMERICAN CITIZENS?? And Torture?? And denial of the right to see a lawyer?? Ya wanna talk about 1984??

How about, George, "the enemy has always been Eastasia (Iraq) and NEVER Eurasia (Afghanistan)"

Or, "War is Peace," which is basically equivalent to, "we're fighting them there so we don't fight em here." In other words, war over there is peace at home, so War is Peace.

How bout that NSA warrantless wiretapping of American citizens?

This admin has committed SO MANY F___ING CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS that they deserve to be ... Ok, I really don't think I should finish that, b/c the Secret Service, or NSA, or GWB's personal minions (like you, Harriet) are listening....

But you get the idea...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm really surprised at Obama's continued strength in the polls. After watching him grinning alongside Reverend Wright and hearing how he was Obama's mentor for twenty years in the church of hate, how can whites vote for him?
Then, with his "changing" his mind on just about every policy he endorsed, who knows who he really is. Then there was his association with the terrorist, and on, and on. Obama is truly scary.

Posted by: Larry Clifton | August 20, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Rufus:

AMEN!!!

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Franky:

Once per thread is more than enough.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama endorses yet another crook (Kilpatric):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

Posted by: Jimmy | August 20, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

wapo1:

What part of "he may not be the most sexy candidate ever" don't you understand?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

As a great man with solid principles once said, "I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democrat party left me."

Lieberman is only the most visible public example of how people who stand for something find themselves being left outside of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Rufus | August 20, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama Lies To America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528

Posted by: Jimmy | August 20, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Harriet:
Gas prices are high because GWB won't invest in INFRASTRUCTURE like mass transit and renewable energy. It's the dems who are for those things, remember?? Funny how every time something's good, it's cause of the white house, and when it's bad, it's cause of the Congress, which, BTW, is nearly half republican.

Same for the other questions you raise: Dems are FOR these things, and it's republicans who are getting in the way. Obama may not fix every single one of America's problems or execute all the policies you name, but he will come a HELL of a lot closer than McSame will.

Obama DISTANCED himself from Wright and Farakan, versus McSame, who ACTIVELY SOUGHT John Hagee's endorsement, and then ran away when it became politically inconvenient. Your other claims-- about Smoking cigarettes, Ludacris, etc. are completely unfounded, and simply angry ranting...get some substance in your arguments before you reveal your stupidity on an even grander scale.

LOL

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans' policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies.

Republican deregulation brought about fraud in mortgage lending and dangerous financial instruments which have collapsed the housing market, leaving a million or more homeowners facing foreclosure. The financial system is in disarray and might collapse from insolvency.

The trade and budget deficits have exploded. The US trade deficit is larger than the combined trade deficits of every deficit country in the world.

The US can no longer finance its wars or its own government and relies on foreign loans to function day to day. To pay for its consumption, the US sells its existing assets--companies, real estate, toll roads, whatever it can offer--to foreigners.

Republicans have run roughshod over the US Constitution, Congress, the courts and civil liberties. Republicans have made it perfectly clear that they believe that our civil liberties make us unsafe--precisely the opposite view of our Founding Fathers. Yet, Republicans regard themselves as the Patriotic Party.

The Republicans have violated the Nuremberg prohibitions against war crimes, and they have violated the Geneva Conventions against torture and abuse of prisoners. Republican disregard for human rights ranks with that of history's great tyrants.

The Republicans have put in place the foundation for a police state, which they have no problem using against fellow citizens!

We must get the Republicans totally out of power, or we will have no country left for any of us!


Posted by: Franky | August 20, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama's used car salesman tactics put money in his own pocket.

Obama is high on hope, but low in proven solutions.

"...I'm reminded that the actions of those in power have enormous consequences -- a price that they themselves almost never have to pay."
- Barack Obama; The Audacity of Hope; p. 48


Consider this telling fragment from the Obama timeline, offered by David Freddoso in his new book, The Case Against Barack Obama:

July 31, 1995 - Tony Rezko makes his first political donation to Obama.

July 1995 - Obama seeks (and later receives) endorsement of radical New Party.

January 2, 1996 - Obama begins process of throwing all of his opponents off the ballot.

March 19, 1996 - Obama wins Democratic state Senate primary, unopposed.

January 14, 1997 - Tony Rezko, while claiming he cannot afford to turn on the heat in one of his slums, writes a $1,000 check to Barack Obama's campaign.

February, 1997 - Obama co-sponsors a bill that creates affordable local housing funds in order to subsidize private developers.

August 23, 2001 - Bill co-sponsored by Obama, giving special tax credits to donors to private developers of "affordable housing."

May 21, 2003 - Obama votes for the Affordable Housing Planning and Appeal Act, creating demand for at least 7,000 new "affordable housing" units and letting private developers circumvent local ordinances.

August 14, 2003 - Stuart Levine and Tony Rezko steer $50 million in teachers' retirement money to an investment firm and receive a $250,000 kickback from the "finder."

March 4, 2004 -Obama co-sponsors bill to move forward deadlines of developer-friendly housing bill.

June 15, 2005 - Obama and Tony Rezko close on adjacent properties in Hyde Park.

May 26, 2005 - Chicago Tribune profiles Tony Rezko, noting that he has been subpoenaed in a criminal investigation.

January 2006 - Obama purchases part of neighbor Tony Rezko's lot.


In his first position of any government power, Barack Obama, perfectly evidenced his own pronouncement:

"...the actions of those in power have enormous consequences -- a price that they themselves almost never have to pay."


Syrian-born Tony Rezko is now in prison, after having been convicted by a federal jury on 16 of 24 counts of corruption charges.

Cheating the taxpayers is serious business.

But while Tony Rezko languishes in a prison cell, Barack Obama seeks the Presidency.

And what of those lovely "affordable housing" units that Tony Rezko and his Illinois state Senate handmaiden, Barack Obama, paid for with taxpayer money?

They are rat-infested slums, which have been largely condemned by local authorities as uninhabitable by human beings.

The poor citizens of Illinois are left paying the consequences of Obama's power. He's off in Hawaii resting up for his Denver coronation.

Posted by: Jimmy | August 20, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Harriet, McSame is the sexiest candidate ever? You must have weird taste...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Vote for the Arizona guy from organized crime.

But don't call yourself a patriot.

Bonanno moved out there - and died out there - for a reason. He had good company, and he could run Phoenix, Vegas and LA with the politicians in his back pocket.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Hold up. Democrats have nominated a black guy from a rainbow field of candidates, and Republicans have nominated an ancient white guy from a field of candidates, the most diverse of whom is a Mormon. And DEMOCRATS are the party that disrespects minorities?????

Holy, sh*t, dude, you really are stupid.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

wapo1:

How many more "Jewish Republicans" do I have to cite to prove your claim about the lack of them false?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Harriet | August 20, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

MJ:

How about you argue with specific evidence against any of those predictions coming true rather than resorting to ad hominem personal attacks?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Also, Marcellus, you are one of the many people who seem to think that wearing a flag pin is a sign of undying loyalty to one's motherland. Also, you believe that questioning a Republican prez in wartime is treason. You are beyond childish, dude. My only hope is that someday you will grow up and realize that, in fact, War is NOT Peace, Freedom is NOT Slavery, and Ignorance is NOT Strength. But I have little hope for your kind.

Your three "arguments" against Obama's patriotism are thus: 1)No flag Lapel pin, 2)No hand on heart during the pledge, and 3)He says america is no longer what it once was.

OK, dude, I'm going to explain why you're an idiot in a way that I hope won't make your head explode from anger, or actually having to think:

1)A lapel pin-flag is, and always has been, a political football used to assert "patriotism". How is wearing a Made In China pin evidence of one's love of country? Obama's refusal to wear it is simply yet another example of his refusal to fall to the level of childish, he said/she said, "You're unpatriotic" style of politics perpetrated by the Republidudes in gov't now. Just because he won't wear a symbol of ugly politics does not mean he is unfit to lead America, or that his stances on the issues are unfounded, or even that he does not love America. When an election is decided on the jewelry worn by the candidates, it is truly a sad day for America. Honestly dude, WTF are you "thinking"?

Second, the no-hand-on-heart thing during the pledge ALSO has no bearing whatsoever on Obama's ability to lead. It's odd, I grant you, but how about McSame's crashing his plane into power lines while training? Isn't crashing a billion dollar investment in America's defence system more unpatriotic than not putting your hand over your heart? No, of course not, it's the gesticulations and physical gestures made by the candidates that will decide the election, not the actual issues, or what the candidates have done.

And, finally, Obama's saying America is no longer what it once was. Yo, dude, have you been asleep at the wheel for the past eight years? (Answer:Yes. That's why the country's in such a f___ed up state). We are no longer looked up to around the world, our economy's in the sh*t, our military's overstretched, and we're supporting dictatorships with our own economy (oil revenues going to Saudi Arabia, for example) as well as fueling China's rise to power, which is going to leave us on the sidelines. And you think we're NOT worse off than we used to be?? That's the core message of Obama's campaign, retard: Change the direction the country's going. Remember??

I enjoyed refuting your so-called arguments for several reasons. One, it was easy. Two, you are steering the debate away from the issues, letting me know that you, and other Republicans, are scared sh*tless to actually debate the stuff, because you know you're candidate has all the wrong positions. And, three, it always does me good to start the day skewering a little troll.

;)

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

For instance, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) is Jewish too.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey Harriot,

Thanks for for showing all of us just how ignorant you and the ultra right wing nut jobs in this country really are. Your ignorance is only outshown by your futile attempt to really believe that McSame really has a chance.

Posted by: MJ | August 20, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

wapo

the republican party has been responsible for the first African-American Secretary of State, NSA Director, Supreme Court Judge, First Female Supreme Court Judge, and lots more firsts.

Dems are the real racists when you look at the facts. Holding the minorities down by humoring them

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

In addition, there are other Jewish Republicans:

http://www.rjchq.org/

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Harriet,

Believe what you want, but McCain is crooked.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-spirits/1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hensley#Early_business_career.2C_legal_issues

McCain married into an organized crime family. He's dirty.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

The Dems control the Senate (and House) NOW! Why are our gas prices so high? Why don't we have universal health care? Why don't our labor laws give us all 6 weeks of vacation like our European counterparts? Why are home prices so high? Why isn't college free for all? Why isn't our work week 30 hours instead of 40?

Do you think electing Barrack Hussein Tell-them-what-they-want-to-hear Obama is going to fix all these things? THINK AGAIN!

Some things you can bet on if Obama becomes president, Pastor Wright and Farakan will be the new "spiritual" advisors for the Obama administration, Ayers will be strategical advisor, Our American flag will be changed to look differently and all the good parts of American history will be erased and the bad ones brought to the top, Tony Rezko will be the new chief of Property Management, John Edwards will be the administrator of family values, "smoking cigarettes" will become cool again, the pledge of allegiance and national anthem will be banned (perhaps replaced with a new song by Ludacris, who will be the new musical director for the administration), and as America enters utter turmoil and people question the new President - they will be arrested by the secret-service for being racists and being charged with "threatening the president".

WOW, not a pretty picture.

On the other hand, we can all vote for someone who has a life-long history of serving our Constitution, and our way of life here in America - he even put his life on the line for it.

Go McCain '08 - you may not be the most sexy candidate ever, but we see what you're made of, you're made of America through and through.

Posted by: Harriet | August 20, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

drossless:

If the "real" Democrats get only 60 seats in the Senate, watch for Joe Lieberman's clout to INCREASE not decrease.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

FLTNVA:

McCain came across as a straight-talker Saturday night at the Saddleback Fourm. Just wait until the debates (unless Obama figures some way to renege on that promise too ; )

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman had to be there anyway, standing right behind McCain, to lean over and correct him when he starts confusing Sunni/Shia, the names of our European allies, or the correct borders of countries in which U.S. troops are currently engaged in warfare.

Might as well let him talk, I guess, and put a final end to the peculiar notion that he is some sort of Democrat.

Posted by: drossless | August 20, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans' policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies.

Republican deregulation brought about fraud in mortgage lending and dangerous financial instruments which have collapsed the housing market, leaving a million or more homeowners facing foreclosure. The financial system is in disarray and might collapse from insolvency.

The trade and budget deficits have exploded. The US trade deficit is larger than the combined trade deficits of every deficit country in the world.

The US can no longer finance its wars or its own government and relies on foreign loans to function day to day. To pay for its consumption, the US sells its existing assets--companies, real estate, toll roads, whatever it can offer--to foreigners.

Republicans have run roughshod over the US Constitution, Congress, the courts and civil liberties. Republicans have made it perfectly clear that they believe that our civil liberties make us unsafe--precisely the opposite view of our Founding Fathers. Yet, Republicans regard themselves as the Patriotic Party.

The Republicans have violated the Nuremberg prohibitions against war crimes, and they have violated the Geneva Conventions against torture and abuse of prisoners. Republican disregard for human rights ranks with that of history's great tyrants.

The Republicans have put in place the foundation for a police state, which they have no problem using against fellow citizens!

We must get the Republicans totally out of power, or we will have no country left for any of us!

Posted by: Franky | August 20, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain has proven he is not a "straight talker" or a "maverick" throughout this campaign. Now, he is giving Lieberman the opportunity to prove once and for all that he (Lieberman) is not a Democrat (as though any further proof is necessary).

Posted by: FLTNVA | August 20, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"Truth"-teller-- Anonymous wasn't being racist, he was simply pointing out the Republican Party's lack of minority members...although, he forgot that the Republicans do have at least one other Jew: Jack Abramoff.

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Unless a couple GOP Senators who aren't up for re-election this year are killed, and replaced with Democrats, there's no mathematical way to get 2/3 of the U.S. Senate.

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

OK, marcellus, nice job smashing Obama. Now let's see you actually make a case for McSame...

Posted by: wapo1 | August 20, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Joe who??? Ohhh... droopy droop along! Now that guy is funny!

Posted by: Will D. | August 20, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain does NOT NEED to question Obama's patriotism, as his Anti-American roots show through by themselves. It is Obama that questions his own patriotism and slips up and lets us know about it.

Here are a few examples:

ttp://www.truveo.com/Obama-No-flag-pin-for-him/id/1371079521
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/10/20/obama-no-hand-heart-pledge-either-will-msm-notice
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/07/obama-america-is-no-longer-what-it-once-was/

Obama wants to change everything America ever has been, everything America is, and everything America has the potential to be.
Obama is self-serving, this is why he's never joined the military to serve our constitution, this is why he has friends like Tony Rezko, Wright, Ayers, and many others - FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT!

Obama is NOT FIT TO BE OUR PRESIDENT!! He has not paid his dues and is herding the sheep into voting for him by being a great salesperson on a message.

Select a candidate that has a track record of how their actions will play out. Mr. Obama has NO TRACK record besides his own account in a book and has done things and befriended people that leave a question as to what his true intentions are. Don't buy it!

What has Obama done that is SO GREAT that makes him worthy?

Posted by: Marcellus | August 20, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The Dems control the Senate (and House) NOW! Why are troops still in Iraq and Bush/Cheney not impeached?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:03 PM

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Pretty basic - they don't control it. They would need at least 2/3 to do that.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Liarbearmanpig for VP!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman joins a list of speakers at the convention that already includes President Bush, Vice President Cheney and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

This puts little Joey Putz in great company. The four morons of the apocalypse!!!

Posted by: jeffp | August 20, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Mike:

The Dems control the Senate (and House) NOW! Why are troops still in Iraq and Bush/Cheney not impeached?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is attempting to allign the fascists in the repug party with the fascist repugs of the Isreal government.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 20, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

If the Dems control the Senate after the election and win the Whitehouse. I hope they make him chairman of the Capitol Trash Collection Committee.

Posted by: Mike | August 20, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Susan:

The people who voted for Joe are proud he can reach across party lines to get things accomplished. Isn't that what The One is running on too?

Posted by: JakeD | August 20, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Great! Mr. I Don't Know Where I Am has Mr. I Don't Know Where I Belong speaking at the convention.

The people who voted for Joe must be so proud.

Posted by: Susan | August 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Actually McCain's organized crime family in Arizona has been tight with certain Jewish people for a long time.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-spirits/1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hensley#Early_business_career.2C_legal_issues

Bottom line: McCain married into an organized crime family. He's dirty.

The question is: Is Lieberman too?

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

We have another racist Democrat here using anonymous. You sicken us all.

Posted by: Truthteller | August 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Their token Jew.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

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