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McCain and Jay Leno Joke About His Age


Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), makes an appearance on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" Aug. 25, 2008, in Burbank, Calif. (AP/Mary Altaffer)

By Michael D. Shear
BURBANK, Calif. -- Bowing to the inevitability that Jay Leno would crack jokes about his age, Sen. John McCain came armed with one of his own.

"I've got one," McCain told Leno during a taped appearance on the "Tonight Show," which will air tonight. "My social security number is eight."

If he expected to be razzed about his age -- McCain turns 72 on Friday -- he was right.

In his monologue, Leno introduced McCain and 41-year-old Olympic swimmer Dara Torres, by saying: "They're not here because of politics or Olympics. I just like being around successful people who told they were too old for the job."

And to McCain, Leno apologized for not having a birthday cake because, "the fire marshall said that many candles..."

McCain's appearance on the show -- his 13th, by his own count -- was timed to coincide with the first night of the Democratic National Convention in an attempt to steal at least a bit of the opening night thunder.

In that vein, McCain joked that he might make big news if he picked a running mate with no particular partisan leanings, no clear political principles and who "may need a job about that time." The audience cracked up when they realized McCain was talking about Leno.

"I can make more doing a week in Vegas," Leno joked.

McCain noted that the "house is nice," a reference to the White House.

"You've got enough of those," Leno cracked. "You need a white one, too." Later, he asked McCain: "For $1 million, how many houses do you have?"

At that, McCain got serious, saying he had been imprisoned for five-and-a-half years during the Vietnam war, and that "I didn't have a house. I didn't have a kitchen table. I didn't have a table." He also praised his late father-in-law -- the source of his wife's wealth -- as a man who came from nothing to be successful.

"I'm proud of my record of service to this country, and it has nothing to do with houses," McCain said. "It has to do with putting Americans in houses and keeping them in their homes."

Leno pushed again on McCain's vice presidential choice, asking why he would not choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate. McCain deflected that question by saying he has "nothing but respect for Senator Clinton," but that they have different philosophies.

And when Leno asked whether Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty might get eaten alive by Sen. Joe Biden in a vice presidential debate, McCain cracked that "the question for any of them might be getting a word in edgewise."

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"McCain does not have that, he offers more of the same failed ideas we've been trying for the last decade."

Really Calvin, It's people like you that generalize McCain's plans and ideas are one and the same with Bush.

Please understand that there is a difference. I never stated that being a PoW qualifies any certain person to be president. It's what he DID during the capture that is significant.

Regardless, people seem to know how to focus on McCain's negatives based on Bush yet has nothing to offer or say about how Obama will be great. Obama speaks as if he were a messiah and offers absolutely nothing that will prove to me as to why he'll be a better president.

You're one of the followers of this newly acclaimed messiah.

Posted by: Henry | August 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"Most people don't realize the importance and extremity of being a POW in Vietnam."

Really Henry, so what would that importance be? How does being a POW in Vietnam make McCain qualified for the presidency? There were thousands of POWs, do you think they'd all make good presidents?

The president needs more than just a compelling personal history, he needs good ideas for how to make things better for America. McCain does not have that, he offers more of the same failed ideas we've been trying for the last decade.

Posted by: Calvin | August 27, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

*annoyed mumble* Let's try this again...

JakeD:
Ok, so, when I said I don't care what I'm told, I meant I don't care what others' opinions about people's ability is. I prefer judge for myself, because, alot of times I disagree. Perhaps it's based on the criteria we judge by.

Secondly, about the ratios. I WOULD vote for the 50 candidate, if the 100 was, as the idea is, unqualified. However, as stated before, my definition of qualified and other people's may be different.

Third, I am not entirely sure what you mean by McCain has done better. Do you mena as far as getting things he's sponsored passed? I have little knowledge of who has sponsored what, so do you have a website or something that compares the success of McCain's sponsored bills to Obama's?

P.S. the annoyed mumble is directed at the site itself, not you. I signed up for it (hence, the handle change, I am, indeed, Paul) so it would stop derailing my posts with errors. Turns out it didn't work...

Posted by: phoenixofdiscordia | August 26, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

*annoyed mumble* Let's try this again...

JakeD:
Ok, so, when I said I don't care what I'm told, I meant I don't care what others' opinions about people's ability is. I prefer judge for myself, because, alot of times I disagree. Perhaps it's based on the criteria we judge by.

Secondly, about the ratios. I WOULD vote for the 50 candidate, if the 100 was, as the idea is, unqualified. However, as stated before, my definition of qualified and other people's may be different.

Third, I am not entirely sure what you mean by McCain has done better. Do you mena as far as getting things he's sponsored passed? I have little knowledge of who has sponsored what, so do you have a website or something that compares the success of McCain's sponsored bills to Obama's?

P.S. the annoyed mumble is directed at the site itself, not you. I signed up for it (hence, the handle change, I am, indeed, Paul) so it would stop derailing my posts with errors. Turns out it didn't work...

Posted by: phoenixofdiscordia | August 26, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

*annoyed mumble* Let's try this again...

JakeD:
Ok, so, when I said I don't care what I'm told, I meant I don't care what others' opinions about people's ability is. I prefer judge for myself, because, alot of times I disagree. Perhaps it's based on the criteria we judge by.

Secondly, about the ratios. I WOULD vote for the 50 candidate, if the 100 was, as the idea is, unqualified. However, as stated before, my definition of qualified and other people's may be different.

Third, I am not entirely sure what you mean by McCain has done better. Do you mena as far as getting things he's sponsored passed? I have little knowledge of who has sponsored what, so do you have a website or something that compares the success of McCain's sponsored bills to Obama's?

P.S. the annoyed mumble is directed at the site itself, not you. I signed up for it (hence, the handle change, I am, indeed, Paul) so it would stop derailing my posts with errors. Turns out it didn't work...

Posted by: phoenixofdiscordia | August 26, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

phoenixofdiscordia (Paul? (yes)):

Since you don't care what anyone tells you about anyone else, not sure how fruitful this will be, but here goes. Can we agree that McCain has a PROVEN track record of getting tnings done across the aisle of THIS Congress. Obama, less so. If Obama wins, he's going to face an completely obstructionist Congress, so he may not get ANYTHING you want passed. McCain OTOH may, in fact, get some of the things you do agree with him passed.

Now, if we can't even agree on that, or the 100% vs. 50% ratio, there's no hope I could convince you on 80%-5%.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 6:38 PM

Hmm, perhaps that needs clarifying. I meant I don't care about other people's opinions as to the character and/or dependiblity/ability of other people. Meaning, I'll measure a person's ability by my standards, not someone elses.

I'm afraid you've also misunderstood my 100-50/80-5 concern. I would be far likelier to vote for for a candidate with 50% of my views, if the 100 candidate was, as the hypothetical goes, a screw up. I meant the difference in numbers is significant enough to make think harder on it.

I'm not sure I quite agree that McCain's track record with Congress is better. Perhaps you have a reference that gives a comparison of bills they've each sponsored? I'll not deny evidence laid out before me, and I will plead ignorance on who has sponsored what.

I have not, as of this moment, ruled out entirely voting for McCain. I would even vote for a strong third party candidate, but only if I believed that they had a real chance. Pragmatism before idealism in this instance.

Posted by: phoenixofdiscordia | August 26, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

phoenixofdiscordia (Paul?):

Since you don't care what anyone tells you about anyone else, not sure how fruitful this will be, but here goes. Can we agree that McCain has a PROVEN track record of getting tnings done across the aisle of THIS Congress. Obama, less so. If Obama wins, he's going to face an completely obstructionist Congress, so he may not get ANYTHING you want passed. McCain OTOH may, in fact, get some of the things you do agree with him passed.

Now, if we can't even agree on that, or the 100% vs. 50% ratio, there's no hope I could convince you on 80%-5%.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

phoenixofdiscordia (Paul?):

Since you don't care what anyone tells you about anyone else, not sure how fruitful this will be, but here goes. Can we agree that McCain has a PROVEN track record of getting tnings done across the aisle of THIS Congress. Obama, less so. If Obama wins, he's going to face an completely obstructionist Congress, so he may not get ANYTHING you want passed. McCain OTOH may, in fact, get some of the things you do agree with him passed.

Now, if we can't even agree on that, or the 100% vs. 50% ratio, there's no hope I could convince you on 80%-5%.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

phoenixofdiscordia (Paul?):

Since you don't care what anyone tells you about anyone else, not sure how fruitful this will be, but here goes. Can we agree that McCain has a PROVEN track record of getting tnings done across the aisle of THIS Congress. Obama, less so. If Obama wins, he's going to face an completely obstructionist Congress, so he may not get ANYTHING you want passed. McCain OTOH may, in fact, get some of the things you do agree with him passed.

Now, if we can't even agree on that, or the 100% vs. 50% ratio, there's no hope I could convince you on 80%-5%.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Correction, if we're going to talk politics, let's talk politics, not politicians.

Sorry. Also, it seems signing up has altered my handle. Ah well. Continue.

Posted by: phoenixofdiscordia | August 26, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Paul:

"Suppose you're a voter, and you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?"


I see your point. But, I do not see the point where Obama is any less capable than McCain. We are not talking about X and Y, we are talking about Obama and McCain.

Secondly, a 100% to 50% ratio is less of a difference than than an 80%-5% ratio. Neither the math nor the implication of your statement affect my decision any.

Also, I don't really care what Bubba, Dubya, or any other politician has to say about any other politician either. To be frank, I don't care what anyone tells me about anyone else. If we're talking politics, let's talk politics.

Posted by: phoenixofdiscordia | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

MA:

I don't know if Arizona law is the same as California law on this point -- I didn't practice in Arizona -- what I already said was that I would be shocked if it wasn't similar and if Cindy McCain co-mingled separate and community property in either State. It also matters not that the McCains reside in Arizona -- California community property law applies to her California property -- that's the PROPERTY you brought up (or, are you going to deny that too?).

As for Reagan / McCain's age (regardless of the fact that Biden is up there too), you did not say "in his first term" at 8:08 AM. Maybe you meant to type that, but here's exactly what I was responding to:

"And at 72 plus, he'd be the oldest person ever inagurated (sic)." PERIOD.

That being said, compared to Barack Hussein Obama, yes, I want a 72 year old starting his first day on the job as POTUS ; )

Paul:

"Suppose you're a voter, and you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?"

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/bill-clinton-in-denver-again-undercuts-obama-2008-08-26.html

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Most people don't realize the importance and extremity of being a POW in Vietnam. Pure ignorance.

Ask yourselves, what has Obama -really- done for you other than tell you that there will be change? How will the changes be implemented? He's like a kid on the street who observes that the world needs fixing with no actual clue on how to really fix it.

McCain , to the very least, has a very definitive direction he wants to lead the country in. The negative ads are part of campaigning strategy because he understands that the mass population will respond to ads and pay attention to nothing else.

McCain may have called asians "gooks" once upon a time but I really don't hold it against him considering the torture he went through in vietnam.(I'm vietnamese, trust me i know how bad it can get). He did apologize.

Open up your eyes and look at the real facts

Posted by: Henry | August 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Most people don't realize the importance and extremity of being a POW in Vietnam. Pure ignorance.

Ask yourselves, what has Obama -really- done for you other than tell you that there will be change? How will the changes be implemented? He's like a kid on the street who observes that the world needs fixing with no actual clue on how to really fix it.

McCain , to the very least, has a very definitive direction he wants to lead the country in. The negative ads are part of campaigning strategy because he understands that the mass population will respond to ads and pay attention to nothing else.

McCain may have called asians "gooks" once upon a time but I really don't hold it against him considering the torture he went through in vietnam.(I'm vietnamese, trust me i know how bad it can get). He did apologize.

Open up your eyes and look at the real facts

Posted by: Henry | August 26, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Most people don't realize the importance and extremity of being a POW in Vietnam. Pure ignorance.

Ask yourselves, what has Obama -really- done for you other than tell you that there will be change? How will the changes be implemented? He's like a kid on the street who observes that the world needs fixing with no actual clue on how to really fix it.

McCain , to the very least, has a very definitive direction he wants to lead the country in. The negative ads are part of campaigning strategy because he understands that the mass population will respond to ads and pay attention to nothing else.

McCain may have called asians "gooks" once upon a time but I really don't hold it against him considering the torture he went through in vietnam.(I'm vietnamese, trust me i know how bad it can get). He did apologize.

Open up your eyes and look at the real facts

Posted by: Henry | August 26, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Paul:

I must have missed your original post if it was directed to me -- the number one reason I am voting for McCain is to prevent another 40 million Americans from being aborted -- let me know if you have any questions about that : )

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 4:31 PM

Nope, I made it at around 1:30 this morning. It was directed at Scott.

That's a fair way of answering, but my original post was asking what reason I should vote for McCain. Out of context, it seemed like I was asking you for a reason.

To be honest, I haven't read all of your comments, and I likely won't. I don't have any particularly glaring issues with the ones I did read, so you sound like an alright, if willful, person. Vote how you feel.

Personally, I try not to narrow down an election to a single issue, though, I can't say for certain that you are. You seem like the kind of person that I could discuss this with civilly. Too bad it has to be on this thing. Haha.

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

MA:

"You were the one who tried to apply Arizona law to California properties. You also claimed that McCain would be "the oldest person inaugurated".


No, I asked you if AZ and CA common property laws were the same after you quoted CA property law. The McCains reside in AZ.

And what I said was that McCain would be the oldest person ever inaugurated in his first term. Reagan was 69....McCain turns 72 this Friday.

You want a 72 year old starting his first day on the job as POTUS ?? I don't.

Posted by: MA | August 26, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Paul:

I must have missed your original post if it was directed to me -- the number one reason I am voting for McCain is to prevent another 40 million Americans from being aborted -- let me know if you have any questions about that : )
Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 4:31 PM

Nope, it was not directed at you. I made it 1:30 or so this morning. That's a good reason to vote for someone. I myself share a similar view, to a point. However, Senator Obama's record as both an Illinois legislator and a U.S. Senator matches my personal philosophy 80% of the time. Senator McCain's record matches my ideals only 5% of the time, or so. With the information I have, Senator Obama is the choice for me.

I'm voting for a politician, not a morality coach, so I don't care about McCain's houses and the specifics of his marriage. Nor do I care whether or not Obama lied about voting on something or not. I care about how their philosophy on laws jives with my own.

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Paul:

I must have missed your original post if it was directed to me -- the number one reason I am voting for McCain is to prevent another 40 million Americans from being aborted -- let me know if you have any questions about that : )
Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 4:31 PM

Nope, it was not directed at you. I made it 1:30 or so this morning. That's a good reason to vote for someone. I myself share a similar view, to a point. However, Senator Obama's record as both an Illinois legislator and a U.S. Senator matches my personal philosophy 80% of the time. Senator McCain's record matches my ideals only 5% of the time, or so. With the information I have, Senator Obama is the choice for me.

I'm voting for a politician, not a morality coach, so I don't care about McCain's houses and the specifics of his marriage. Nor do I care whether or not Obama lied about voting on something or not. I care about how their philosophy on laws jives with my own.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Realist,
You obviously have not been watching all the NEGATIVE ads run by the McCain campaign. All he can talk about is Obama. Why? Because he has nothing good to say about the policies he endorses?

That is precisely my point. Most of you only pay attention to ADS and dont take any real time to do research.

MCCAIN being a P.O.W. has a LOT to say about what he can offer as a president. His father had arranged for Mccain to be released early, but he CHOSE to stay back with his soldiers.

Mccain sacrificed himself to be with his soldiers. I support a president who puts the country and others before himself. Obama is the jokeface that would never do such a thing

Posted by: Realist | August 26, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Realist,
You obviously have not been watching all the NEGATIVE ads run by the McCain campaign. All he can talk about is Obama. Why? Because he has nothing good to say about the policies he endorses?

That is precisely my point. Most of you only pay attention to ADS and dont take any real time to do research.

MCCAIN being a P.O.W. has a LOT to say about what he can offer as a president. His father had arranged for Mccain to be released early, but he CHOSE to stay back with his soldiers.

Mccain sacrificed himself to be with his soldiers. I support a president who puts the country and others before himself. Obama is the jokeface that would never do such a thing

Posted by: Realist | August 26, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"not sure you can simply dismiss that chance as "something I would expect from someone in grade school"."

Yes, children of that age are much smarter and would never seriously entertain such delusional musings.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Paul:

I must have missed your original post if it was directed to me -- the number one reason I am voting for McCain is to prevent another 40 million Americans from being aborted -- let me know if you have any questions about that : )

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I see my appeal for a sincere reason to vote for Senator McCain has gone ignored in the mudslinging and mutual jabs. Ah well, I suppose I will go ahead and vote for Senator Obama. It's the logical thing to do.

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

If it helps, I give McCain a 1% chance and Obama a 2% chance of being brainwashed "deep cover" agents -- it's certainly not a big chance, but it's still possible -- not sure you can simply dismiss that chance as "something I would expect from someone in grade school".

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Of course, it is also possible that McCain is the Manchurian Candidate too (not as likely as Obama being a secret Muslim agent). As for the Catholic School, assuming it was actually that and not a "front" for the secret brainwashing, I am not saying he is an agent for the Pope.

Any more questions?

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

And maybe if you also said that McCain had been brainwashed by his N. Vietnamese captors and is now still under their influence, I would at least know that your paranoia about such things was universal. But thankfully, you are holding on to only one ludicrous presidential conspiracy at a time.

So what about the time Obama spent at a Roman Catholic school (madrasa - the arabic word for any type of school - Google it) in Indonesia? Or are you saying that maybe he is a secret agent of the Pope as well. I guess that would put you with the same people that feared JFK for being a catholic. But wait, you said you voted for JFK. I guess it has taken you 45 years to develop that kind of paranoia.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps if I had spent time at a madrassa in Indonesia and were running for President, you'd have a point. See you around.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain keeps reusing the POW theme but refuses to release his POW and service records. Why? Could it be the propaganda videos and radio broadcasts he made for Hanoi that he does not want anyone to hear? He should stop with the POW stuff until his records become public.

Posted by: Unseal the records | August 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

But how do WE know you are not a secret Muslim agent? Is it not just safer to assume you are one based on the accusations of others.

If you truly believe in some muslim conspiracy to elect a president I am not sure further questions from me are necessary. I think people can judge for themselves going forward. You do realize this puts you essentially in the same sphere of people that think our government was behind 9-11. Well it's a free country, so I guess even the paranoid deserve a vote.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I have voted for Independent candidates for President more than either Republican or Depocratic. And, since I know I am not a secret Muslim agent, any possibility that Barack Hussein Obama is is greater than zero. Sometimes, there are indeed conspiracies. Next question?

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

So the last Dem you voted for presidency was 45 years ago? And in the 11 presidential elections since you have voted republican? Ok, so in your eyes that does not make you republican. Maybe just leaning towards the right :)

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

And it might also be possible that you are a secret Muslim extremist bent on spreading misinformation about someone, who if elected, may improve the image of the US in the eyes of those you wish to recruit. So you may be promoting electing someone like McCain in the hopes that continued current foreign domestic policy will continue help you gain support for your mock holy war.

See how easy it is to play that stupid game. Do you really want to be associated with the rest of those conspiracy theory nuts out there?

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

P.S. politics is a dirty game -- I agree with you on that -- it is also possible that Barack Hussein Obama is a secret extremist Muslim lying about being a Christian in order to gain the Oval Office, during our war against said extremist Muslims. It would be a "disgrace" to elect someone like that.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

herewegoagain:

The last Democrat I voted for President was JFK (but I have voted for pro-life Democrats in lower offices since). Kennedy campaigned on strong defense and getting the country going again. Of course, he was a "conservative" by today's standards. He was also proven as a war hero and two-term Senator. Roe v. Wade had not been decided back then, so I simply cannot vote for a pro-choice President now until that decision is overturned. Next question?

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

biggirl:

Time to start acting like a biggirl and grow up. Politics has always been a dirty game. Every side uses negative attack ads. Only a fool pretends otherwise.

Trying to relate a natural born citizen of our country with a foreign terrorist group (osama) that attacked our country is disgusting and something I would expect from someone in grade school. You disgrace yourself and insult the memory of those 9-11 victims by trying to use such rhetoric in your infantile arguments.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the real Osama.

Obama supporters can only think about the negative aspects of McCain without really stating or proving how Obama will be the better president.

Is that all you have to show for? The negatives of the republican candidate to show that your democratic candidate is superior? Obama is the loser just like all his fellow supporters: Pretenders full of negativity.

Posted by: Realist | August 26, 2008 2:04 AM
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Realist,
You obviously have not been watching all the NEGATIVE ads run by the McCain campaign. All he can talk about is Obama. Why? Because he has nothing good to say about the policies he endorses?

Posted by: biggirl | August 26, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD:

"I am not a Republican, and I am only giving free legal advice"

Ok, so you say you are not a Republican...who was the last Democrat candidate you voted for and explain why? Impress us with your lack of partisanship by expressing a dissenting view of a former Republican president. Have the courage to at least wear the uniform you have chosen rather than pretending not to hold a strong bias for one party. Doing otherwise simply questions your intentions here and dilutes any argument you make.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

JakeD:

"I am not a Republican, and I am only giving free legal advice"

Ok, so you say you are not a Republican...who was the last Democrat candidate you voted for and explain why? Impress us with your lack of partisanship by expressing a dissenting view of a former Republican president. Have the courage to at least wear the uniform you have chosen rather than pretending not to hold a strong bias for one party. Doing otherwise simply questions your intentions here and dilutes any argument you make.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Sorry about the technical glitch.

MA:

You were the one who tried to apply Arizona law to California properties. You also claimed that McCain would be "the oldest person inaugurated".

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Stuart:

Thank you for the information.

MA:

I am not a Republican, and I am only giving free legal advice (worth what you paid for it) based on California law. So, it would apply (as I said, at least) to the McCain properties in California. I would be very surprised if Arizona does not allow some similar protection for separate property. As for Reagan's alleged onset of Alzheimer's, I would argue he accomplished more in his 2nd term than Clinton did in both his terms. I am going to LOVE McCain's term(s).

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Stuart:

Thank you for the information.

MA:

I am not a Republican, and I am only giving free legal advice (worth what you paid for it) based on California law. So, it would apply only to the McCain properties in California. I would be very surprised if Arizona does not allow some similar protection for separate property. As for Reagan's alleged onset of Alzheimer's, I would argue he accomplished more in his 2nd term than Clinton did in both his terms. I am going to LOVE McCain's term(s).

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Stuart:

Thank you for the information.

MA:

I am not a Republican, and I am only giving free legal advice (worth what you paid for it) based on California law. So, it would apply only to the McCain properties in California. I would be very surprised if Arizona does not allow some similar protection for separate property. As for Reagan's alleged onset of Alzheimer's, I would argue he accomplished more in his 2nd term than Clinton did in both his terms. I am going to LOVE McCain's term(s).

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Stuart:

Thank you for the information.

MA:

I am not a Republican, and I am only giving free legal advice (worth what you paid for it) based on California law. So, it would apply only to the McCain properties in California. I would be very surprised if Arizona does not allow some similar protection for separate property. As for Reagan's alleged onset of Alzheimer's, I would argue he accomplished more in his 2nd term than Clinton did in both his terms. I am going to LOVE McCain's term(s).

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey paula I think obama requires severe and intensive psychiatric therapy after hearing him lie about voting against the Infant protection then attack those who called him on it and then admit he in fact had voted to withhold med attention from infants who survive a failed abortion attempt!

Posted by: scott | August 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is a man who needs therapy, why else would you continually bring up your POW years to avoid tough and easy questions. He is an angry and broken man that needs our compassion not our vote. I would hate to think that if he's elected president, that no one will be able to question the government he creates because he was a for 5 1/2 years. We need transparency in government not this secretive stuff. OBAMA/BIDEN 08'

Posted by: Paula | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Hey steph-
Also see www.earthpolicy.org where you will find corn ethanol uses as much petroleum as it substitutes for after growing harvesting and transporting. Wow that really sucks! Doesn't it?

Hey I heard McCain broke his own arms to cover up his propoganda work for the vietcong... Or was it the Koreans?

Posted by: scott | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Hey steph-
Also see www.earthpolicy.org where you will find corn ethanol uses as much petroleum as it substitutes for after growing harvesting and transporting. Wow that really sucks! Doesn't it?

Hey I heard McCain broke his own arms to cover up his propoganda work for the vietcong... Or was it the Koreans?

Posted by: scott | August 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

McCain made propaganda films for the North Vietnamese while a prisoner and received special treatment other prisoners didn't get.

Cindy had John sign a prenuptial agreement before she would marry him. Cindy doesn't trust John with her business; why should we?

John McCain is nothing less than a kept man, a gigolo, living high and mighty off his wife's fortune and should he fail, has a very soft landing zone. No wonder he doesn't know how many houses he has. They are not his! Like everything else; they belong to Cindy.

Gigolo John McCain!

Posted by: Donaldd | August 26, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Good morning-
Stephanie Roe I refer you to
Industrialbiotecnology.com/eco
Where you will find evidence that sugarcane ethanol IS 7x more efficient as corn so I stand corrected for saying 8 and you sit corrected as the shill of Illinois farmers and they're patron Obama. Can you say cogeneration? I knew you could.
Infant protection provides medical care to infant survivor
Of aborttion attempt. You're against that? I'm pro choice but that's simple decency, which you're and Obama is fighting.Good luck and enjoy the Koolaid.


Posted by: Scott | August 26, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Jake D writes:

"Reagan was older when he was inaugurated back in 1985. Cindy did obtain most of her wealth through inheritance. Here in California, at least, such separate property can be used to purchase and maintain other property. As long as "community property" funds are not co-mingled, all of the houses are Cindy's (or the trust's) separate property."


We're talking first term here. Reagan was 69 years of age in 1981. And I watched Reagan deteriorate (as did many Americans) as he progressed in to his mid 70s during his second term with the onset of the early stages of Alzheimers disease.

Are CA and AZ community property laws the same ?

The point is, McCain is so rich, he can't even recall how many residences he and his wife own.

He didn't know what a gallon of gas cost a few months back. And his chief economic adviser Phil Gramm, called Americans a nation of whiners.

I don't hear any of you McCain shills lamenting the class warfare attack Republicans used against Kerry in 2004. I guess the 520$ Ferragamos are on the other foot now. Eh ?

Bottom line,if you liked the Bush years, you'll love the McCain years.

Posted by: MA | August 26, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

How many times did he throw out the POW refererence? At least one too many already.

It's a shame he's reduced that honorable portion of his past to being a punchline.

The facade is cracked, let the reality begin to seep out.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Noun, Verb, POW. Wow, John McCain is so deep and obviously well qualified to be president.

Posted by: PJ | August 26, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

It is interesting that the comparison with Churchill regularly comes up when McCain's age is mentioned. I know a fair bit about Churchill having done a great deal of research for my book What Would Churchill Do?-Business advice from the man who saved the world,(It's on Amazon) as I live in England my knowledge of John McCain is very limited.
The first obvious comparison is age at 71 McCain is 6 years older than Churchill was at the outbreak of war, but as Churchill said himself, one of the reasons why he was so successful at managing the war was because his experience had been EARNED, NOT LEARNED, so it could be that the knowledge and experience McCain has gained through his life could be to the advantage of the American people over a younger candidate.
The secret to Churchill's success in the war was the fact that he got involved with everything and put his own stamp on how things should be done. Whilst people often quote how Churchill inspired Britain with his speeches and courage, which is certainly true, it was his practical decision making, tough leadership and attention to detail that made the real difference.
If John McCain has these qualities along with his proven courage and experience then he might be good for America.

Posted by: Stuart Finlay | August 26, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

McCain is using his POW status like Rudy G. uses 9/11
So friggin' what.
Not I don't care anymore (and at one time I did)

The USA and the world doesn't need another snotty / smirking / goof ball ex-pilot in the WH.

Posted by: Another Voter | August 26, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Henry:

McCain apologized for the "gooks" comment back in 2000.

MA:

Reagan was older when he was inaugurated back in 1985. Cindy did obtain most of her wealth through inheritance. Here in California, at least, such separate property can be used to purchase and maintain other property. As long as "community property" funds are not co-mingled, all of the houses are Cindy's (or the trust's) separate property.

Posted by: JakeD | August 26, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Clearly, the GOP is throwing this election, in order to have the democrats take the blame when the whole economy, and empire collapses in the next two years.
Once again, as in 1976, the Dems are walking into the fall guy role.

Posted by: Bob in NH | August 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

When we were kids, we shopped in 2nd hand shops for our back to school clothes for a few years.

Perhaps more than ever we should. Times are tight. Anything that saves a family money is going to help.

Posted by: thomp | August 26, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Most of you need to get your facts straight so you can make an informed decision as opposed to getting all your information from 90 second commercials and the musings of idiots.

Posted by: Tyrone Biggums | August 26, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Not a Pawn Writes:

"The whole house comment is funny because John McCain does NOT personally own those homes. His wife's father's fortune is the money behind it all... So why is he under scrutiny? The Kennedy's have many homes and have been known to be piggish womanizers for ever!"


Why was John Kerry criticized by Republicans in 2004 for he and his wealthy wife owning five homes ?

So, you're comparing McCain's cheating on his first wife, having an a affair with the rich cheerleader, divorcing his first wife and then marrying Cindy, to the Kennedy's ? OK. So McCain is no better than the Kennedys, in your view, when it comes to marital fidelity....right ?

"Arizona Revised Statutes (A.R.S.) § 25-211 provides that all property acquired by either husband or wife during marriage is community property, except that which is acquired by gift or by inheritance."

IOW any property that Cindy bought since she and McBush married (28 years ago), is now jointly owned by both of them. That would include the 2.5 million dollar home she recently bought in Coronado CA, the 700,000 dollar condo they bought for one of their daughters a few years back, among other properties.

You're not only a Pawn to the right wing gas passers on the radio, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: MA | August 26, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

The man, hello? as we should expect came back different from captivity not necessarily a 'better human being'. He is NOT mentally fit to lead our globe out of hell. On the contrary. We will miss bush with this harder version of neocons.
The 'old - mean man' has nothing to loose
before taking all of us to apocalyptic
nasty wars crafted by lieberman inc.
His lethal brand for us mothers is real terror.

Posted by: Lea | August 26, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

There are other POW's who served in the military. They do not use their experiences to hood wink the American people. This country is not about a joke or a joking matter when people are suffering. He jokes a lot, so that he does not have to address the plight of this country and the American people. This country is on the brink of becoming a third world country. John McCaine and George W. Bush do not have to worry about a house payment, put food on the table, or put gas in the tank. The American dream is slipping through the cracks for so many people. Simple things like putting your kids through college, the extra activities like dance classes and sports. Parents are not able to do even the simple things for their families. Women need to stand up and fight for themselves and their families and send the republicans a message. "NO MORE of the SAME".

Posted by: carrie from georgia | August 26, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

All those republicans who say they don't like Bush and don't like the direction the country is heading should remember, YOU voted for him - twice!

YOU are responsible for giving him a chance to make this country worse. If you voted for him, you don't have anything to complain about. Now you want to vote for McCain.

If we wins, in four years you will be crying again and complaining while you search out the next leader for a political party that has lost its way. That is what happens to every political party if it stays in power to long. They feel they can do anything and nothing bad will happen to them. It happens to Reps and Dems.

It's time for a change if for no other reason to remind the Republican leadership that there are consequences when you screw things up so bad. Remember as the voter you DO have responsibility for what happens to this country. You can't just vote for a president and then when it turns out they do a terrible job say it's all their fault. YOU put him in charge - twice! Consider your role in what has happened to this country in the past 8 years.

Posted by: herewegoagain | August 26, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Misty writes:

"he will ruin America just like Bush"

Let me get this straight. McCain supported Bush over 90 % of the time with his Senate votes since 2005, but it's Obama that will ruin America just like Bush ?

Excuse me while I LOL. If you like elective war (Iraq), would like to start another one against Iran, support the borrowing of hundreds of billions of doallars to pay for these wars, and tax cuts for the top 1 % of wage earners in our country, then McCain is definitely your man.

Abandoning any pretense of his alleged "maverick" image (mavericks don't win GOP nominations) McBush will be little different than the current POTUS.

And at 72 plus, he'd be the oldest person ever inagurated. Shuffling, chain smoking communist oligarchs can get away with "leading" their nations, but McCain is way past his political prime and frankly not up to the demands of the oval office anymore.

Posted by: MA | August 26, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

The whole house comment is funny because John McCain does NOT personally own those homes. His wife's father's fortune is the money behind it all... So why is he under scrutiny? The Kennedy's have many homes and have been known to be piggish womanizers for ever!

I am a Republican because I belive in HARD WORK, NOTHING's FREE!, NO ONE WILL DO IT FOR ME - BUT ME!, kind of mentality. McCain did earn his homes, his wife's father did...

McCain will NOT simply use Oil for Domestic Use, it is rumored that the Oil will be sold to foreign countries, so finally AMERICA can have a piece of the Oil Profits. It's about time!

Where is Obama's Plan!?!?!? I still have NOT heard a solution! I am very disappointed with the DNC. The RNC is lucky however, because the DNC picked Obama! What a loser and after he loses, the DEM Super Delegates will keep those Donor Lists they were bribed with in and exploit them long after Obama loses his Sentate seat...

McChange 08' "Because there is No Other Soltion Left!"

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCON! | August 26, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I think we all need some relief. http://www.bop-o-rama.com Let's remember, they are both politicians. The 8 joke..not very good. Badda Bust!

Posted by: acarponzo | August 26, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is too old for president. Not because of his age, its because he acts and shows effects of old age. Some people in his age are capable of handling very important things, but John McCain is not one of those people. He miised his last shot in year 2000, but some of us wanted fast cowboy from Crawford Ranch in Texas. If John McCain is any good he would be the president back then, not George Bush. Bottom line is; HE IS TOO OLD TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES AND THAT IS NO JOKE TO US!!

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 26, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

High time for the like of McCain and the rest of these conservative republican caner to stop warping in the flag and farting patriotism.

Posted by: winemaster2 | August 26, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

John Sidney McCain the third wants to harp about 5 Years as a POW and being a war hero needs to answer some real question and take note.

1. The SOB hot shot, incompetent, substandard pilot was not the only won who was a POW. No body asked him to join the Navy and be a war monger bombing thousands of civilian ( women and children ) for that crazy Asian war. He was lucky not to get killed like over 58,000 American young men and woman who were sacrificed by the malignant narcissists, chronic scapegoaters, uncorrectable grab baggers with coercion, reckless abandon and impunity to promote their own outward/ hypocrite self image of good. That include the fake war hero McCain

2. He has received preferential treatment all his life starting with his birth in the Canal Zone Panama, Neither US soil or US Sovereign Territory. This admission to the Naval Academy and subsequent graduation as a favor to his grand father and father admirals. The SOB graduated #496 out of 499 and as per his classmates, only because his father was an admiral.

3. He destroyed unprecedented 4 naval aircraft on account of his incompetence and was finally shot down by ground fire during his bombing runs over Hanoi and N. Vietnam. The SOB surrendered and as a result ended up being a POW. Even in that status he received preferential treatment. Lt. Commander McCain's version of his POW experience differs radically from other much higher ranking military officers, who were POWs much longer.

4. Why is McCain not allowing the Navy, DOD and the Pentagon to release his Service, Medical and Vietnam records that the public is entitled, since the SOB is a US Senator and seeking higher office. McCain and the Navy no doubt his hiding all the crap that was shoved under the rug.

5. Who and for what purpose was McCain allowed to joy ride a solo trip to a Army Navy football game in Phali that on the return trip after meeting his girl friend, the boozer, while mid flight reported engine shut down, ignition failure and McCain bailing out and letting his jet fighter crash.

6. McCain disobeyed direct orders to remove the over size and over weight bombs from his Fighter Jet. His recklessness resulted in a huge explosion, fire, killing of over 110 naval personnel, destruction of 15 jet fighters and and sever damage to the flight deck of the Carrier. The fake Navy version was that McCain's aircraft while awaiting take off was hit by a stray rocket ( not in coming ). This story parallels the gulf of Tonkin lie and fraud about another carrier being attacked by the Vietcong and a justification for all out bombing of the civilian population of N. Vietnam, in which the likes of warmonger McCain participated. And now this same warmonger want to continue the Fraud Iraq war, that is costing this nation over $15 billion a month.

7. Other higher ranking military Officers, who were POWs much longer then McCain the son of the admiral contend that McCain collaborated with the enemy and received preferential treatment. His injuries were a result of his bailing out and not inflicted by any torture. In Fact, McCain was provided what ever medical treatment was available and month after his surrender, he is photographed in a body cast.

8. After his release, the son of the admiral was ushered before Nixon. At that time the US Navy declared him 100% disabled and as per Naval and DOD regulations, he should have been discharged. But once again, the son of the admiral was promoted to a full commander and decked out with 28 medals for flying 25 hours of bombing missions cherry picking civilian targets over Hanoi and N. Vietnam. No doubt that with over 58,000 American troops dead the Pentagon needed to parade some heroes and the son of the admiral was a logical candidate.

9. Instead of discharging him, the Navy with strings pulled by his admiral father McCain was allowed admission to the War College. A place reserved for high ranking military officers with merit and distinction. McCain's have dubious have been stated above.

10. After 9 months of R and R at the War College the son on the admiral was again promoted to the rank of Captain and assigned as a Naval Liaison to the US Senate. A job for which he had no training or experience. In fact he was nothing but a special aid to that other Navy hack, boozer and womanizer Senator John Tower, the powerful Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. McCain in his special aid capacity was very instrumental in providing booze and woman to the likes of Tower and Gary Hart in places like Saudi Arabia.

11. It was John Tower who groomed and greased the wheels for McCain's bid for a Congressional seat from AZ. But first it was very convenient for the his code of conduct and being an officer and a gentleman to rid of his crippled wife with three children in favor of a rich hussy rodeo queen, Cindy Lou Hensley, 15 years his Jr. The SOB even took out a marriage License before he was divorced from his first wife.

12. It was the felon Jim Hensley the AZ and Las Vegas mafia associate who along with that other Savings and Loan felon Charles Keating, who bank rolled McCain's first Congressional Campaign.

Perhaps these likes of Jay Lano the like minded conservative republican will never raise these questions along with the rest of the white dominated media. WHY !

www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/mccain_miltary_record.htm
www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html
www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_declassified.htm
Wife that John McCain left behind.
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/the-wife-john--mccain-callously-leftbehind-html

Posted by: winemaster2 | August 26, 2008 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Misty,
Being critical of what the Bush administration has done does not make Obama anti-American. If it did, then 71% of us are "anti-American". Suppose you have a washing machine and it is leaking. So you call a repair guy and he comes in and says "the central gasket is worn and cracked". What do you do, kick him out because he criticized your machine or pay him to fix it?
There are some things that are broken in this country, that need fixin'. The financial system. Our energy supply. Health care costs. Our foreign policy. FEMA. Our tax system. The mortgage system.
Obama will fix these, but he has to point out that they are broken. When a doctor says "you have a sore throat"-- that's not criticism! That's not being "anti-you". That's preparing to give you a prescription.
So, please people. If you don't like Obama's fixes, say so. But none of this "anti-american" milarchy.

Posted by: David Arnow | August 26, 2008 7:01 AM | Report abuse

I once was a great admirer of John for his military service in the Vietnam War (although I have never been an admirer of his political bent because it is so disingenuous). However, I can no longer take his never-ending use of his POW days to escape any criticism. John, you have beaten this subject to a pulp. And quite frankly, it no longer resonates with us because we know you are only using it to garner votes. To use such a serious topic merely for your political benefit is an insult to every name on the Vietnam memorial wall.

Posted by: formerrepublican | August 26, 2008 6:00 AM | Report abuse

I don't want Obama for President period. I don't like McCain much either but I will vote for him because maybe with him we will have a chance. There is alot of reasons not to vote for Obama such as no experience in anything, him and his wife are anti Americans, he critisizes America in an anti American country, he dis respects U.S. soldiers, he believes the same way his pastor Wright believes, he's only running for President to make history and have fame and power, he can't answer questions without going in circles, acts like this election is all fun and games, he will ruin America just like Bush, want's to send more money over seas to other countries that we already sent alot of money too, and can't take up the offer that McCain had to go around to town halls accross the nation to debate because he doesn't even know what to say without his advisors. What more does anybody need to not vote for Obama? Like I said I am not much for McCain and I am mad about the candidates we have but Obama is not what this country needs and I wish people will wake up before it is to late.

Posted by: Misty | August 26, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'm old! My social security number is 8! Aren't I funny for being able to joke about how ridiculously old I am?! And houses? I have... uhm... I was a POW! POW! POW! POW!

Posted by: Sen. John McCain | August 26, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'm old! My social security number is 8! Aren't I funny for being able to joke about how ridiculously old I am?! And houses? I have... uhm... I was a POW! POW! POW! POW!

Posted by: Sen. John McCain | August 26, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Noun + Verb + 'P.O.W.'

That was 40 years ago John. The question is what are you bringing to the table TODAY!?!

Posted by: Cal | August 26, 2008 3:30 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: On the ball 24-7 | August 26, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

If you tell McCain his zipper's not zipped, he'll tell you he was a POW.

If you tell him he's drooling spit from his chin, he'll tell you he was a POW.

If you ask him why he thinks repeating George W Bush's policies for four more years is a good idea, he'll tell you he was a POW.

I know his Daddy was an admiral, he flunked the Naval Academy, and he crashed five or six planes...but does McCain actually think answering everything with "I was a POW" qualifies him for ANYTHING?

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 26, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

henry if you were really viet you would dislike mccain for he refers to all asians as gooks and chinks and "hates all of them"

Posted by: lol | August 26, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

What's up with that picture? Did grandpa McCain fart? Or, more likely, poop into his Depends? He's just so ridiculous it's not funny anymore.

Posted by: Swinger | August 26, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Obama is the real Osama.

Obama supporters can only think about the negative aspects of McCain without really stating or proving how Obama will be the better president.

Is that all you have to show for? The negatives of the republican candidate to show that your democratic candidate is superior? Obama is the loser just like all his fellow supporters: Pretenders full of negativity.

Posted by: Realist | August 26, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

I am Vietnamese and I fully support MCCAIN. I don't like war but i appreciate the fact that America tries to help the suffering countries that are under demonic suppression by its government and other countries.

John McCain sacrificed 5 years of his life for the country. Most of you may not even know what it's like to be without proper food, shelter, and opportunities.

MCCAIN was once a man without freedom and opportunities and he knows how important it is to fight for america so we, the people, can have all those things.

Obama is such a joke.

Posted by: Henry | August 26, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

One House, One Spouse, Obama '08

Posted by: POW POW POW | August 25, 2008 11:55 PM

That's right -- one house, a house paid for by a convicted criminal.

I guess you and Obama never heard the saying about "those in glass houses."

Posted by: info | August 26, 2008 1:30 AM

What about those in glass houses?

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

One House, One Spouse, Obama '08

Posted by: POW POW POW | August 25, 2008 11:55 PM

That's right -- one house, a house paid for by a convicted criminal.

I guess you and Obama never heard the saying about "those in glass houses."

Posted by: info | August 26, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations McCain... You really have turned your POW experience into a freaking punchline. Way to trot that out as a defense for every gaffe, flub, and flaw.

Posted by: Left of the Pyle | August 26, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Scott,

You don't seem to do much research to post your Obama issues over 10 times.

Here is the response to your concerns:
1. SUGAR ETHANOL vs. CORN ETHANOL
(Obama is for all sustainable energy - as is McCain)
Sugar ethanol has NOT been proven to be 8x more efficient than corn ethanol - it is just less expensive because of the fermentation process of corn.
Brazil is the number 1 producer of sugar ethanol, US is the number 1 producer of corn ethanol.
Currently, there is a tariff on Brazilian ethanol - making it very hard for sugar ethanol to be available in the US.
There is no argument to be made on sugar vs. corn - the debate should be on off shore drilling if you are really concerned about climate change and the environment.
McCain is pushing hard for off shore drilling which will further America's addiction to oil, hinder funding for sustainable green technology, and further pollute our planet.

2. INFANT PROTECTION ACT
This would basically ban abortions
because the "equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child." If you consider a fetus a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute.
Obama is pro-choice, so of course he would be against laws banning abortions.
McCain is "pro-life," but when asked if he would be against his daughter having an abortion, he said "it's her choice."...

It is divisive and useless to debate over religious social issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Leave that kind of debate in the church on in your home - let's bring politics back to the issues that matter to everyone - like healthcare, the economy and the environment.

Posted by: stephanieroe | August 26, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Why are you not critizing the Kennedys and their many houses? They got them illegally thru old Joe Kennedys crooked business dealings. The Kennedys were all men of no moral values. Look at the womanizing all of them did; then Edward got drunk at a party, drove a young lady off a bridge, he ran away and she died; he was never prosecuted for his crime as other Americans would have been. So the Kennedys are your heros, huh? You really have good taste.

Posted by: Rocky | August 26, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Most likely commentors like Anonymous, McCainWhataJoke, etc. are younger people who have never honorable served their country and don't know what it means to ask themselves what they can do for The United States of America. They have no respect whatsoever for the men and women who are putting their lives on the line so that they can live in freedom. They are the Ugly Americans, the selfish fools. We should all pity them as they do not know what country, honor, sacrifice means. They are useless individuals who will never make anything of themselves. Let's just pity them and pray that they change.

Posted by: Thelma | August 26, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Michelle is one of the best (but not only by any means) reasons to vote against Obama. She is a revolutionist who hate American (she really does). She's a very strong willed person, stronger than her husband, and most likely the reason Hillary was not selected as VP nominee. Michelle hates HRC.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Paul: "Please, please explain to me, why Sen. McCain should be the candidate for me."

Ask yourself why Obama should not, that might help.

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | August 26, 2008 12:33 AM

Why should Obama not be? I already said I agreed with him on more issues.

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

McCain for President 08, Obama for King of Congress and Hillary for Queen of Congress 08

.... problem solved.

Posted by: McCain Idea | August 26, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

mcfail...your t shirt is ugly

Posted by: bonnie | August 26, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Being a POW doesnt mean you know anything about any other aspect of government. He wishes we were still in vietnam to win the war and obviously doesnt care about all of the vets on the street that didnt become the celeb he did.


Is it a shocker McCains people said a war would be good for him during the election... and look what happened Georgia just so happened to pop up at a great time!

Thx Russia,

Love John

Posted by: mcfail | August 26, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

oh yeah, McCain Daddy Yankee 2008!! and it looks like Scott's got more important things to do. Just after hes finished writing his dissertation on the campaign in the comments section of the Washington post.

Posted by: erik | August 26, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Bonnie...I hope that was sarcasm, because nothing hes done in the last 25 years shows any of that happening.

www.mcfail.org

Posted by: mcfail | August 26, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter how many years ago McCain was a POW. It's the core of a man to have such strength, passion, and integrity. Time can fly on by, but you don't lose your core... is the base of who you are as a person.

Further, how can anyone ever forget 5 years of such dramatic effects on ones life. I don't care how old they are or who they are... 5 years of torture will be embedded in one's mind. b/c of the wonderful men/women who fight to keep our country and citizens free ... those who live their lives w/out having to give up this freedom and the lives we have here, are too spoiled to appreciate the gift our wonderful troops have given us.

Have respect... The funny thing is those who come here for the opportunities this country provides is more appreciative than those who were born here and takes things for granted. Have respect.

Posted by: K@Chicago | August 26, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

i enjoyed the show it shows a side of him i have not seen before i think he was very good and hope to see more of his personality if elected i hope he does what he says and stops sending all that money over seas and keeps it here at home to get the usa back to the great country it is and gets the energy resources moving along rapidly to get away from the use of oil

Posted by: bonnie | August 26, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Paul: "Please, please explain to me, why Sen. McCain should be the candidate for me."

Ask yourself why Obama should not, that might help.

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | August 26, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

DUDE McCain has PTSD! He still wants to get those "damn yellows"

Posted by: mcfail | August 26, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Only if Daddy Yankee had McCains back in Nam we wouldn't have to hear Grampas war stories anymore. Oh yeah he wouldn't be running for president if he wasn't shot out of the sky. Because if it wasn't for that he was just going to be known as a bad pilot for crashing the other three planes.. Thank god for Vietnamese aim or else John Boy would be playing quite a different tune.

Posted by: erik | August 26, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

No doubt that Hillary was unfairly treated. :-( Although I was not initially Hillary's fan... the more I saw how unfair she was untreated, and how amazing she held herself and fought and fought. While the arrogant, inexperienced, smirking sat aside and watched Hillary get abused by the press.

I now have a highly favorable view of Hillary. With Hillary, I trust... I can't say the same about Obama... actually, I deeply do NOT trust Obama.

I wish it were between Hillary or McCain instead. In this way, I wouldn't care if either one becomes president.

McCain'08

Posted by: Kim | August 26, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

I have supported for Obama, he speaks to make me feel good. He is to lead amerika with good things an can be a sorce of inspuration to teh peeple also is looking like younger and able to pleeze all ladies is for sure my choice. Thank you

Posted by: keesha | August 26, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Mister Scott,
I have neither the time, nor the patience to attempt to debate with you, for I have many things I need to get done, but I would like to raise a question for others to take up, or perhaps to die in obscurity. Maybe I will never know, but nevertheless, I feel it needs to be said. Well, perhaps I was misleading. when I aid question, I meant several questions. First, what exactly qualifies Senator McCain to be the President? The John McCain that I had such high hopes for 8 years ago was qualified to be President, no doubt. But the John McCain of today seems far from the man he was then. Perhaps you can prove me wrong?

Secondly, Senator Biden's personal comments and foibles aside, what does Sen. McCain bring to the table, aside from his experience in Viet Nam, that Sen. Biden does not?

Thirdly, politicians lie. I do not pretend to understand Senator Obama's complete voting record, what he may or may not have lied about, or what other factoids or pseudofactoids you have are not my concern. Why should I, an Illinois left liberal, vote for John McCain over Barack Obama? It seems to my understanding, I agree on a large amount of issues with Sen. Obama, and a lesser amount, with Sen. McCain? I do not care about who lied about what, who served in what war, who had more wives, who may or may not have illegitimate children, who's family members did what, or who paid for whose house and/or houses. Nor do I care who associated with whom at some vague point in the past. Please, please explain to me, why Sen. McCain should be the candidate for me.

Posted by: Paul | August 26, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

McCain FORGOT to say that "his years of service" were OVER 40 years ago!! This is NOW!! WHAT has ALL HIS"EXPERIENCE" been SINCE then besides hooking himself a millionaire?? He has never worked at a REAL job and didn't even BOTHER to show up to vote at his Senate job for 63.8% of the voting issues! Does he sleep all day?? Or just keep telling stories about "My SERVICE to My country!"??like I said, which happened over 40 years ago, and PRISONER is the sum total of his "military experience" ALL THOSE YEARS!!

What a sad case of arrested development!!

Posted by: Maerzie | August 26, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

benighse, thanks for being an Obama supporter who still respects those who fought for our country noting McCain's POW status at the time. I agree with many that being a POW alone is not enough to be the president of the U.S. That's why you have to look at the core of McCain, who when was offered an early release... declined it b/c he had the integrity to stay with his comrades who were there first... first in first out law. HOW many of us can you see is able to deal w/the abuse, no sunlight for FIVE years. Dedicated his whole life, his father served and his children serving for the country.

McCain has years and years of experience. I know that many makes fun of his age, but having experienced hardships of life, and to endure it... is amazing in its own.

Obama, in his 40s, have no experience, promises everything to everyone, changes his mind more frequently and in a less lime span than anyone in recent history... all points to his... youth and inexperience.

The choice between Experience and life/family all for his country ... versus an inexperienced and no deep core for the love of U.S. THere's NO comparison...

McCain '08

Posted by: K@Chicago | August 26, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse


joeyNOnuts
"Well anyway, I heard he sent Cindy to the country of Georgia to check on the war situation and what could be braver than sending your wife to a war zone? Especially when she's 54 now and there are new 20 year olds to chase around the table..."

Hey, that's a good one, got any more there Cowboy?

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | August 26, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I didn't know that John McCain served time in prison! Did you?

He should bring that up once in a while, maybe people will give him credit for... well not getting shot down exactly... but for you know, being a hero - well maybe not a hero, since he crashed three jets before he got shot down. But for being such a great survivor, yeah, that's it, a survivor, like those people on that TV show.

Nobody voted him off any island and he won more than a million dollars, he won $100 Million Dollars by falling out of love with his first wife (after she had that car accident and put on that weight), and falling in love with that chick in her 20's when he chased her around the buffet table in Hawaii. You know, Cindy, the Bud Light girl.

Well anyway, I heard he sent Cindy to the country of Georgia to check on the war situation and what could be braver than sending your wife to a war zone? Especially when she's 54 now and there are new 20 year olds to chase around the table...

Posted by: JOEYDOUGHNUTS | August 26, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Going to bed whistling a favorite tune-

Since Camp Obama doesn't want to address the Infant Prot. Act or Corn Ethanol, I'm going to whistle as I read the WashPost blog below...."Turn out the lights, the Party's overrrrrrrrrrr..."

"Ohio Gov. Bashes Press for pro-Obama Bias
By Dan Balz
Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland is the latest supporter of Hillary Clinton to accuse the media of bias in its coverage of the Democratic nomination battle.

At a dinner with Washington Post reporters and editors, Strickland called the coverage "almost shocking at times" and unfair it the treatment of both candidate Clinton and her husband, the former president.

"Quite frankly, some of the people that I had most previously admired as commentators I have a remarkably different opinion toward right now," Strickland said.

Strickland was the second big-state governor and Clinton supporter to sound off about the press at the convention. On Sunday, at a panel hosted by Harvard's Shorenstein Center, Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell called coverage of Barack Obama's campaign "embarrassing"

"He is running for the most important office in the world," Rendell said. "He basically got a free pass." Rendell also described MSNBC derisively as "the official network of the Obama campaign."

Strickland was one of Clinton's strongest supporters and helped her carry the Ohio primary in March. In his critique, he did not single out any commentators by name. But he was sharply critical of the treatment Clinton got at two debates just before the Ohio primary, noting that she was repeatedly asked questions first, giving Obama the benefit of being able to shape his answer in response to hers.

He recalled that Clinton had raised the issue during the Cleveland debate. "Then she was mocked for bringing it up, referred to as whining," he said. "I think it was very legitimate."

Strickland said he was troubled by innuendo in coverage of the campaign and particularly the focus on both Hillary and Bill Clinton. "I mean she was the candidate, for God's sake, he wasn't."

He also said he has heard complaints from Clinton supporters about the failure of the Democratic National Committee "for not being more direct in calling attention" to the problem."

Wait, Ohio, Pennsylvania....are those important?

Posted by: Scott | August 26, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

One House, One Spouse, Obama '08

Posted by: POW POW POW | August 25, 2008 11:55 PM
Hey Powow, Can You name Joe Bidens 7 Glass Houses?
1. Sold out to MNBA so loobyist son made 1/2 mill (NYT today pA13)
2. Put down african american students in Was DC while campaigning in Iowa
3. Almost thrown out of law school for plagiarism
4. Left 88 campaign for (you guessed it) Plagiarism
5. Called Obama's personal hygiene "storybook"
6. Insulted Indian american 7 eleven cashiers
7. Said it would be an honor to "run WITH or against" John McCain......

hey- keep those stones coming...


Posted by: Scott | August 26, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Unless I'm mistaken in my history from Vietnam, there were approximately 600 POWs brought home, of whom one was John Mccain. They are all entitled to be honored for their service to this great country. None held themselves in higher or lower esteem for office solely on the basis of this aspect of their lives. We owe them respect, and we owe them our empathy for what they endured, but they are not, each and every one or any single one, owed the high office of President of the United States for having POW status. That office must be earned by a leader convincing the entire American public that their lifetime of work and vision and passion will give us an honorable person who will bring economic opportunity at home, and respect in the international community, because we are willing to work with our partners and allies to make the entire world a better place. I am proud to know many veterans and soldiers who join in saying they have much respect for both McCain for what he endured and Obama for what he has accomplished for their entire life's work. The choice now is for the future. That future requires the vision and passion and work and leadership qualities not to threaten and bully the world by the old ways, but with a fresh vision to convince the world to join us because our ideas and our ideals will indeed provide the opportunities that keep this world safe and protected. A comparison of the candidates on their education, training, teaching, working, helping, and the leadership qualities we need in the next President of the United States convinces me that Barack Obama is the right person to lead us as a member of a world community, and who will make us economically strong again at home. I prefer to be FOR someone....and I am for BARACK OBAMA for PRESIDENT! Join us to work for OBAMA/BIDEN '08.

Posted by: benighse | August 26, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Hey Yogi's sidekick....I'm still waiting....

Hey Bobbob, you're back...enjoy the convention? I wrote this 2 hrs ago....care to comment now?...or do you want to continue in the ethernet?

Hey Bobob- McCain's for the Infant Protection Act and Sugar Cane Ethanol, your candidate isn't...your candidate is obviously not stupid....that leaves corrupt and morally bankrupt- which one is it...or is it BOTH?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:35 PM

Yeh McCain is for infant protection, thats why he can't wait to bomb Iran killing infants, men women and children not to mention animals.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey Spirit Guide- McCain's for the Infant Protection Act and Sugar Cane Ethanol, your candidate isn't- he's for witholding medical attention from infants who survive a failed abortion and for corn ethasnol that leasds to 8 times more global warming than does sugar cane ethanol...your candidate is obviously not stupid....that leaves corrupt and morally bankrupt- which one is it...or is it BOTH?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

One House, One Spouse, Obama '08

Posted by: POW POW POW | August 25, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

John McCain may be a war hero.. but he's also an old goof. It's appropriate that he's made 13 appearances with Leno..maybe he should just permanently fill the space left by Ed McMahon. If Americans choose to elect John "Alvin the Chipmunk" to replace George "What Me Worry" Bush then GOOD LUCK !!! Expect 4-8 more years of pain and suffering with lots more war, a dismal economy, corporations gone wild, and on and on. This isn't an American Idol popularity contest people !!! Look at the Republican agenda of serving the super-rich (like McCain) and ignoring the rest of us before you decide. You may not like Obama... but he'll have tons of experts in every dept to advise him. The President does not really run the country.. and that should be really obvious to everyone after 8 years of George Bush... Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice and a host of others held most of the power.

Posted by: spiritguide | August 25, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

My Friends,
John Juan McCain aint my friend and won't be my President.

Posted by: B.S. Forida | August 25, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Hey Yogi's sidekick....I'm still waiting....

Hey Bobbob, you're back...enjoy the convention? I wrote this 2 hrs ago....care to comment now?...or do you want to continue in the ethernet?

Hey Bobob- McCain's for the Infant Protection Act and Sugar Cane Ethanol, your candidate isn't...your candidate is obviously not stupid....that leaves corrupt and morally bankrupt- which one is it...or is it BOTH?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:35 PM

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:41 PM

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

What about Obamas father murdering all those people in Kenya?

Posted by: DJ | August 25, 2008 11:46 PM


Who gives a rats a$$ about Kenya??

Posted by: Booboo1245 | August 25, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey Conservative Family Values Candidate | August 25, 2008 11:41 PM -
50% of your relitives, friends, parish, and party who marry will divorce...welcome to the 21st century.....
wow, you must be really outraged at Obama's opposition to the Infant protection Act as someone with such intense family values...isn't this opposition disgusting?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is running this POW crap into the ground. We all know he was a POW but he always keeps bringing it up like we are supposed to feel sorry for him. If being a POW is still affecting him he needs to go get mental help. Just what we need a mentally disturbed man with one finger on the button.

Posted by: William Wonka III | August 25, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

What about Obamas father murdering all those people in Kenya?

Posted by: DJ | August 25, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

John McCain - Daddy Yankee 2008
"I want more Gasolina"

Posted by: erik | August 25, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Scott... "such arguements are as bad as the ones from your side accusing McCain of "war crimes" in Vietnam"

Um no buddy they are two different things. Accusing Obama of being a terrorist because his name sounds like Osama is nowhere near someone repeating accusations that they read online. They are in different ball parks in different countries. They are different ball games. Later

Posted by: some guy | August 25, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey Bobbob, you're back...enjoy the convention? I wrote this 2 hrs ago....care to comment now?...or do you want to continue in the ethernet?

Hey Bobob- McCain's for the Infant Protection Act and Sugar Cane Ethanol, your candidate isn't...your candidate is obviously not stupid....that leaves corrupt and morally bankrupt- which one is it...or is it BOTH?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:35 PM

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse


MINISTER TO John:

Do you John Sidney (Songbird) McCain III take Carol Shepp to be your wife " to live together after God"s ordinance " in the holy estate of matrimony? Will you love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in SICKNESS and in HEALTH, for RICHER, for POORER, for BETTER, for WORSE, in sadness and in joy, to cherish and continually bestow upon her your heart"s deepest devotion, FORSAKING ALL OTHERS, KEEP YOURSELF ONLY UNTO HER AS LONG AS YOU BOTH SHALL LIVE?


JOHN: "My friend - I do?"


MINISTER TO Carole :

Do you Carol Shepp take John Sidney (Songbird) McCain III to be your husband " to live together after God"s ordinance " in the holy estate of matrimony? Will you love him, comfort him, honor and keep him, in sickness and in health, for richer, for poorer, for better, for worse, in sadness and in joy, to cherish and continually bestow upon him your heart"s deepest devotion, forsaking all others, keep yourself only unto him as long as you both shall live?

"I do.”

Posted by: Conservative Family Values Candidate | August 25, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I was a POW.

Posted by: The Real McCain | August 25, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Anyone seen my dignity?

I seem to have misplaced it like I misplaced my honor yesterday.

Help!

Posted by: The Real McCain | August 25, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Scott,

I would have made the same comment if the tables were turned regardless of my political beliefs. It was a comment about the intelligence of such posters posts. It was not politically motivated nor was it left or right biased.

But moving on to issues. How about the real damage that is occuring to our planet because of the greed of oil companies, and most big companies for that matter? How about the greed which we are all bred with being that we've been raised in such a competitive economy. How about the fact that America is falling apart from the inside? How about the fact that McCain's definition of rich is 5 million FIVE MILLION... that's a 5 with 6 0's. Rich to me and anyone I know is 10,000 in the bank... no I'm not some 20 year old frat boy. How about the fact that McCain supports most of the decisions that Bush has made clearly demonstrating that a vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of Bush. You keep bringing up Obama and how he supports something and it may be because he's trying to support big business as well. But you are making the point as if McCain or Republicans for that matter are not guilty of the same damn thing. POLITICIAN ARE CROOKS WHO WILL SUPPORT BIG CORPS IN TURN MAKING A PROFIT THEMSELVES. Until we stop fighting about BS and realize such a simple thing, things will never get better. Until then we will keep arguing on message boards about corn and sugar ethanol and abortion and religion and we will be divided not getting anything substantial solved. Don't bother replying to me. I'm leaving.

Posted by: some guy | August 25, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

"held prisoner for 5 of those, beaten and tortured for his beliefs".
According to the Bush Administration, nothing they did to McCain was torture. Bush has held drivers (not even Bomber pilots) for five years. And yet McCain accepts and endorses 95% of everything Bush asks for. That doesn't speak well of his integrity. Sorry, my friend. Not qualified for the presidency.

Posted by: thebob.bob | August 25, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Whats this info coming out about Cindy McCains dead father being linked to a murder in a business deal gone bad???

Posted by: Smarty Panse | August 25, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

John McSame McCain making another Jay Leno TV appearance. What a big celebrity this guy is. When is he scheduled to host Saturday Night Live again??

Posted by: Mr Kaspersky | August 25, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

So ya ask him how many houses he owns and he doesn't know. BUT, he's got an exact count of his appearances on Leno. Guy definitely has his priorities straight.

Posted by: philko | August 25, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama fried his brain on drugs and alcohol, that's why he can't talk without teleprompter, he has an extreme jealousy of Cindy McCains houses she inherited.I guess the mansion Rezko paid him off with, is not as nice as McCains wife's properties.
Should he become president I wonder how long before he would pardon Rezko.....and if he doesn't become president how long will it take Rezko to tell all so Obama can become his cell mate.
Now he has a VP in cahoots with his son and brother the lobbiest.

Posted by: Monica | August 25, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

some guy-
true, you are correct, such arguements are as bad as the ones from your side accusing McCain of "war crimes" in Vietnam..... OK, so let's talk issues-

why does your candidate support corn over sugar cane ethanol, when the latter is 8 times more effective at preventing global warming?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to Democrats to get upset that someone who served honorably for over twenty years in the Navy and was held prisoner for 5 of those, beaten and tortured for his beliefs might bring it up. I'll bet you weren't complaining when John Kerry was bringing up the Purple hearts he got for shooting himself in the foot.

Posted by: hank | August 25, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

We are dealing with a political party so depraved, so morally bankrupted, that they gleefully commit war crimes and defend human rights violations for the political benefit.

Posted by: Agent Orange | August 25, 2008 11:03 PM
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No, what IS morally bankrupt is your candidate's and I presume Party's opposition to the Infant Protection Act Sir,
care to comment?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe I still see posts of people calling Obama a terrorist because his name sounds like "Osama"... and now Biden = "Bin Laden". It should almost be comical but it's not. Especially being that the majority of these posters really believe this garbage.

The intelligence, or lack thereof, of some of this countries citizens is sickening and discouraging. Sometimes I hope that people like this will be able to get out of the ideas that their sick, racist, and ignorant parents taught them. But usually I just accept the fact that they can't think beyond words that rhyme or sound alike.

OH NO WAY... His name also sounds like "Momma", "Llama", and "Drama".

Must mean he's really a South American camel whose a proud female parent that acts for a living.

Posted by: some guy | August 25, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"the Post arse McCain arse lickers have no shame and go swing on his mafia-financed ranch knowing that this guy"

It's this high regard of the Washington Post that make You Tube the number one reference source of Camp Obama!

by the way there really IS a Camp Obama, I was invited to attend a 2 day symposium on raising my "support for Obama" to a higher level after I registered to find ou who is VP was going to be!

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

What is this free pass for this mob-connected, anti-American senile womanizing hack? He spent 3 years making anti-American prop. for the Communists. Once we have those tapes posted -- and they are now being secured in Vietnam by several non-McCain arse lickers in the CMobster M -- this whole non, verb, POW thing is going to be the butt of all jokes. Move over Rudy! Another guy who cheats, lies, steals and has mob ties is join' your criminal firm.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

The comments on this page are despicable. Shame on you for not having a meaningful debate, you trolls. Most posts are by Anonymous, and are probably bots anyway. Why are you letting such mindless rhetoric persist on these pages, WaPo? Please take a look at the debates on Guardian & Telegraph, where people know how & when to agree to disagree...

Posted by: AquarianAge | August 25, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Don't they have geography/history lessons at Camp Obama? I believe you meant North Vietnamese...or perhaps, I'm giving you too much credit "Conservative"...I believe the point the gentleman was making was that none of us can know or judge what McCain suffered or what we would have done in his place....why don't we discuss issues, like Corn Ethanol and the Infant Protection Act or MBNA and Joe Biden?

"North Koreans to make a propaganda video in exchange for better treatment? This argument is old. McCain should quit cheapening his service by using it as an irrelevant shield against legitimate criticism.

Besides, what does it matter? Why can't we ask him serious political questions? Because he was a POW? Why is it 'unpatriotic' to expect a leader not to hide behind their laurels?

Having McCain attack people's patriotism because they want some serious answers out of him is bull and people shouldn't be cowed into accepting it. It's cowardly of McCain to do that instead of addressing people respectfully.

But I guess you'll tar me as one of those 'unpatriotic geeks' now, right? Because it's not like I proudly flew the biggest damn flag in my state, or invented the red, white & blue 9-11 ribbon or anything. And I really couldn't be someone who has been registered as a Republican since they were first able to vote, who has always voted for McCain for Senate over the last decade or so, since first moving to Arizona.

But I guess you have to be some kind of Democrat or something to want an honest debate where neither side uses cowardly tactics like the "But I was a POW!" dodge to avoid unrelated questions.

Posted by: Conservative | August 25, 2008 10:54 PM "

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

His father-in-law was a mafia scum whose partner MURDERED a real journalist and the Post arse McCain arse lickers have no shame and go swing on his mafia-financed ranch knowing that this guy, who worked for his father-in-law and too millions from the mafia who looted Arizona and American S&Ls, is here only because of the mobster connections. Shameful and sick WP. Tell us about that dead journlaist. tell us why he was killed. He was killed because he was working on a story about McCain and his father-in-law and how they are their mob pals were stealing millions with Keating.

Posted by: McMafia | August 25, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Apparently John McCain's appearance on The Tonight Show tonight has already been taped. They said that near the end of the interview, after McCain and Leno had been joking around for a while, Leno asked McCain how many houses he owns (and phrased it as a joke). McCain's response was: don't ask about that, I was a POW. McCain already disgraced himself and his country when he voted to legalize torture. He has used the POW line multiple times against this issue, he used it to blunt criticisms that his healthcare plan didn't work, and that he cheated at the Rick Warren forum. John McCain is a morally bankrupt, anti-intellectual, reality-challenged, post-fact disaster waiting to happen.


If McCain wins, George Bush won't be able to retain the title of "worst president ever" for long. It truly puzzles me is that 40% of voters are certain to vote for him, and many of them hate Bush. It is obvious why he started going hard negative against Obama: he tried to talk about what he would do and voters didn't like it. The mess this country is in isn't an accident: it was the direct consequence of 40 years of republican misrule. And a certain contingent of voters cheers it along, buying the negative ads as though they were objective fact, and all as they lose their houses and their health insurance. It is like the lab rat who never realizes that the cheese in his cage is hooked to an electrical wire. We are dealing with a political party so depraved, so morally bankrupted, that they gleefully commit war crimes and defend human rights violations for the political benefit.

Posted by: Agent Orange | August 25, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

> McCain has never once used his political office for personal gain. The same cannot be said to be true for Obama who directly benefitted from a convicted felon (Rezko)

Guess you don't remember the Keating 5. McCain has at least 4 shady friends you don't know about. Not to mention any of the more current ones...

Posted by: Joe | August 25, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey "Lies"
Can You name Joe Bidens 7 Glass Houses?
1. Sold out to MNBA so loobyist son made 1/2 mill (NYT today pA13)
2. Put down african american students in Was DC while campaigning in Iowa
3. Almost thrown out of law school for plagiarism
4. Left 88 campaign for (you guessed it) Plagiarism
5. Called Obama's personal hygiene "storybook"
6. Insulted Indian american 7 eleven cashiers
7. Said it would be an honor to "run WITH or against" John McCain......

hey- keep those stones coming...

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

It is difficult for those who never known how to attack and defend other than using a keyboard, and those whose only captivity is in the basement of their mom, to understand the sort of character it takes to refuse release from captivity and invite such hardships as McCain had to endure for 5 years.
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I assume you're *not* using a keyboard, right?

And would that be the same McCain who cooperated with the North Koreans to make a propaganda video in exchange for better treatment? This argument is old. McCain should quit cheapening his service by using it as an irrelevant shield against legitimate criticism.

Besides, what does it matter? Why can't we ask him serious political questions? Because he was a POW? Why is it 'unpatriotic' to expect a leader not to hide behind their laurels?

Having McCain attack people's patriotism because they want some serious answers out of him is bull and people shouldn't be cowed into accepting it. It's cowardly of McCain to do that instead of addressing people respectfully.

But I guess you'll tar me as one of those 'unpatriotic geeks' now, right? Because it's not like I proudly flew the biggest damn flag in my state, or invented the red, white & blue 9-11 ribbon or anything. And I really couldn't be someone who has been registered as a Republican since they were first able to vote, who has always voted for McCain for Senate over the last decade or so, since first moving to Arizona.

But I guess you have to be some kind of Democrat or something to want an honest debate where neither side uses cowardly tactics like the "But I was a POW!" dodge to avoid unrelated questions.

Posted by: Conservative | August 25, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Shut her up!

What a phoney.

Where's the big hook from stage right?

Posted by: Watching DNC | August 25, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I've heard of dumb and dumber... but McCain and Romney come across as "rich and richer". They are completely out of touch with Americans.

Perhaps their campaign bumper sticker will read:
"McCain-Out Of Touch/Romney-Doesn't Care - 08"!


Or this one:
McCain 2008: "My friends... noun... verb... POW"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOjCwfn-Buc

Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | August 25, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

How did they de-monkey Michelle Obama looks?


Posted by: watching DNC | August 25, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

eric b- I can answer that..."it's above my pay scale..."

Posted by: B Obama | August 25, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Do they teach you all at the Camp Obama Kool Aid get togethers that YouTube is a reference book? It's as far as i know a collection of viral videos, like the one shown at one the debates where that guy called his gun his "baby" resulting in Joe Biden questioning his sanity....let's talk washington post, ny times, chicago sun times, etc... You Tube doesn't impress anyone without a Koolaid mustache.

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama's followers are full of hate and vitriol.

McCain has never once used his political office for personal gain. The same cannot be said to be true for Obama who directly benefitted from a convicted felon (Rezko) who received 14 million dollars which Obama directed his way.

Obama did not seem to know his own mind when answering questions from Reverend Warren. What is Obama's opinion on abortion again? McCain answered it directly, confident in his position.

Posted by: eric b | August 25, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

YTD Statistics:

Number of houses McCain owns: Seven? Seventy? Let's just say it's a nice big number, all right?

Number of times McCain invokes his POW days: Ballpark figure - a million.

Now go eat some cake, you good-for-nothing poor people.

Posted by: Lies, Damn Lies, And ... | August 25, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I loved the joke about Joe Biden's hairplugs!

Posted by: Susan | August 25, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Is somebody at the WaPo keeping track of how many times McCain uses "I was a POW..." to explain away anything inconvenient that comes up? Nobody? Well, maybe somebody should!

Posted by: POWs Are Us | August 25, 2008 9:58 PM

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Dude, you are a classic example of the sort of infantile nerds that support Obama. I would suggest to you that no one really knows what McCain actually went through in captivity - the sort of physical pain McCain had to endure. It is difficult for those who never known how to attack and defend other than using a keyboard, and those whose only captivity is in the basement of their mom, to understand the sort of character it takes to refuse release from captivity and invite such hardships as McCain had to endure for 5 years.

Posted by: Losers like POWs Are Us | August 25, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Since Camp Obama doesn't want to address the Infant Prot. Act or Corn Ethanol, I'm going to sing as I read the WashPost blog below...."Turn out the lights, the Party's overrrrrrrrrrr..."

"Ohio Gov. Bashes Press for pro-Obama Bias
By Dan Balz
Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland is the latest supporter of Hillary Clinton to accuse the media of bias in its coverage of the Democratic nomination battle.

At a dinner with Washington Post reporters and editors, Strickland called the coverage "almost shocking at times" and unfair it the treatment of both candidate Clinton and her husband, the former president.

"Quite frankly, some of the people that I had most previously admired as commentators I have a remarkably different opinion toward right now," Strickland said.

Strickland was the second big-state governor and Clinton supporter to sound off about the press at the convention. On Sunday, at a panel hosted by Harvard's Shorenstein Center, Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell called coverage of Barack Obama's campaign "embarrassing"

"He is running for the most important office in the world," Rendell said. "He basically got a free pass." Rendell also described MSNBC derisively as "the official network of the Obama campaign."

Strickland was one of Clinton's strongest supporters and helped her carry the Ohio primary in March. In his critique, he did not single out any commentators by name. But he was sharply critical of the treatment Clinton got at two debates just before the Ohio primary, noting that she was repeatedly asked questions first, giving Obama the benefit of being able to shape his answer in response to hers.

He recalled that Clinton had raised the issue during the Cleveland debate. "Then she was mocked for bringing it up, referred to as whining," he said. "I think it was very legitimate."

Strickland said he was troubled by innuendo in coverage of the campaign and particularly the focus on both Hillary and Bill Clinton. "I mean she was the candidate, for God's sake, he wasn't."

He also said he has heard complaints from Clinton supporters about the failure of the Democratic National Committee "for not being more direct in calling attention" to the problem."

Wait, Ohio, Pennsylvania....are those important?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm honestly not sure which would be worse, President John McCain or President Abe Simpson. Worse yet, I'm not sure there would be much difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvpUqjXiTqA

Posted by: Kimi Welsh | August 25, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

YTD STATISTICS:

Obama debate score: 0 in 23

Obama complaints of election year racist attacks, debate rigging or cheating: 15

Actual incidents of election year racist attacks, debate rigging or cheating: 0

No. 16 on the list of things Obama doesn't realize makes him look bad with blue collar "gut values" voters:

Whining and complaining about racist attacks that never happen, ABC News debate rigging that never was, and McCain cheating that didn't exist.

No. 1835 on the list of things the media gives Obama a pass on:

How a presidential candidate who has won exactly 0 debates out of 23 can keep complaining that each loss is due to some rigging or cheating of a rival?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 25, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Simple question: If Obama is for providing healthcare to all America's children, why is he against providing medical attention to infants who survive a failed abortion attempt? He voted against the Infant Protection act in Illinois and lied about it....stupidity? I think not....morally bankrupt....probably so.

Next question: Why should we trust Obama when he supports the dramatic increase in global warming that corn ethanol creates in comparison with sugar cane ethanol?

3rd question: wasn't it a fast '100 YEARS'?
thanks to war hero's (even Obama honors Mccain's service to our country...is he wrong?)John McCain's brilliant out on a limb support of the surge, we are now planning with Iraq the safe withdrawl of our troops, in a way an announced surrender would never have allowed.

4th question: how does a VPlagiarist who sold out to the credit card industry (today's NYT pA13) represent "CHANGE"?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Simple question: If Obama is for providing healthcare to all America's children, why is he against providing medical attention to infants who survive a failed abortion attempt? He voted against the Infant Protection act in Illinois and lied about it....stupidity? I think not....morally bankrupt....probably so.

Next question: Why should we trust Obama when he supports the dramatic increase in global warming that corn ethanol creates in comparison with sugar cane ethanol?

3rd question: wasn't it a fast '100 YEARS'?
thanks to war hero's (even Obama honors Mccain's service to our country...is he wrong?)John McCain's brilliant out on a limb support of the surge, we are now planning with Iraq the safe withdrawl of our troops, in a way an announced surrender would never have allowed.

4th question: how does a VPlagiarist who sold out to the credit card industry (today's NYT pA13) represent "CHANGE"?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Wheather you support John Mccain or Obama you must watch this video. It is important you be an informent voter.
I see a lot on links on here and I never look at them myself because most are just silly attacks from one side or another. But sit down and watch this. It may give you pause to think.

Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

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Is somebody at the WaPo keeping track of how many times McCain uses "I was a POW..." to explain away anything inconvenient that comes up? Nobody? Well, maybe somebody should!

Posted by: POWs Are Us | August 25, 2008 9:58 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse


Depending how far a news person wants to go on this. I think there is a good case to be made he is in the early stages of Alzheimer's. All it would take would be a panel of experts to examine him over the last year in just what is on tape. There must be hundreds of hours of tape of him. I am far from an expert but I certainly see the decline over the last year and it is huge if you go back to 2000. He is undoubtedly a sick man and getting worse quickly. Now in the last few weeks he has developed a bad facial tic where he opens his eyes real wide then tucks his chin into his chest. This is very bad and needs to be looked into. You would think the possibility of a man being elected president who may be losing his mind would be an issue. WTF is going on here?
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Todays $64,000 Dollar Question:
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John McBush: Senile? or just plain Dumb?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW4msHu_9EQ

Posted by: ArchieinAtlanta | August 25, 2008 9:59 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

by Col. David H. Hackworth

John McCain is being hailed by the press as a "genuine war hero." But is he a war hero in the conventional sense like Audie Murphy and John Glenn?
Or is his "war hero" status the creation of a very slick publicity campaign that plays on flag, duty, honor and country?
For sure, McCain has the fruitsalad a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars , two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service gongs.
On a purely medal count basis, he outweighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.
McCain's valor awards are based on what happened in 1967, when during his 23d mission over Vietnam, he was shot down, seriously injured, captured and then spent 5 1/2 brutal years as a POW.
In an attempt to find out exactly what the man did to earn these many hero awards, I asked his Senate office three times to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. I'm still waiting.
I next went to the Pentagon. Within a week, I received a recap of his medals and many of the narratives that give the details of what he did.
None of the awards, less the DFC, were for heroism over the battlefield where he spent no more than 20 hours. Two Naval officers described the awards as "boilerplate" and "part of an SOP medal package given to repatriated (Vietnamera) POWs."
McCain's Silver Star narrative for the period 27 October 1967 the day after he was shot down to 8 December 1968 reads: "His captors… subjected him to extreme mental and physical cruelties in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes. Through his resistance to those brutalities, he contributed significantly towards the eventual abandonment…" of such harsh treatment by the North Vietnamese.
Yet in McCain's own words just four days after being captured, he admits he violated the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors "O.K, I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
A Vietnam vet detractor says, "He received the nation's third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason. He provided aid and comfort to the enemy!"
The rest of his valor awards issued automatically every year while he was a POW read much like the Silver Star. More boilerplate often repeating the exact same words. An example: "By his heroic endeavors, exceptional skill, and devotion to duty, he reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces."
Yet McCain's conduct while a POW negates these glowing comments. The facts are that he signed a confession and declared himself a "black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate." This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press press were used as propaganda to fan the flames of the antiwar movement.
Accounts by McCain and other writers tell of the horror he endured: relentlessly beatings, torture, broken limbs. All inflicted during savage interrogations. Yet no other POW was a witness to these accounts. 
A former POW says "No man witnessed another man during interrogations… We relied on each other to tell the truth when a man was returned to his cell."
The U.S. Navy says two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism. But for the valor awards McCain received, there are no eyewitnesses, less himself and his captors. And they're not talking.
Our POWs in Vietnam were treated appallingly. The Viets would either break a POW or kill him. POWs provided info beyond name, rank and serial number or they didn't come back.
Based on these stalwart men's horrific experiences, the Code of Conduct has been changed. A POW says, "Now the training is to give them something… don't risk permanent damage to health, mind or body." 
McCain refused an early release. An act of valor? Three former POWs told me he was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he "just followed orders."
McCain certainly doesn't appear to be a war hero by conventional standards, but rather a tough survivor whose handlers are overplaying the war hero card.
David H. Hackworth died in June 2005, he was a much-decorated and highly unconventional former career Army officer who became a combat legend in Vietnam. Col. Hackworth received 78 combat awards — including a Distinguished Service Cross, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and eight Purple Hearts — during his 25-year military career which spanned the Korean and Vietnam wars..

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

some of you folks are downright mean and inappropriate!

Posted by: kc | August 25, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Todays $64,000 Dollar Question:
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John McBush: Senile? or just plain Dumb?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW4msHu_9EQ

Posted by: ArchieinAtlanta | August 25, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Is somebody at the WaPo keeping track of how many times McCain uses "I was a POW..." to explain away anything inconvenient that comes up? Nobody? Well, maybe somebody should!

Posted by: POWs Are Us | August 25, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?


Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey - Tottering Sen. Kennedy just talked at the convention. Someone should ask him how many houses he has, or should I say, how many "compounds" he has. And does he have a yacht that goes with each one? He and McCain: good common folk. No elitists there ....

Posted by: Down the middle | August 25, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
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Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama = oSama
Biden = BiNLAden

ELITIST + EGOTIST = an MT suit and a lot of hot air

Dont vote for this terrorist huggers. Vote for atrue American HERO - John McCain

Mcain in November ; HRC in 2012

P.U.M.A.
Registered Democrat for McCain :)

Posted by: AsBee | August 25, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, PLAYING THE POW CARD HIS WHOLE CAREER.

Mccain has been playing the disability card for his entire career. No one dares tell the truth about him or challenge the war hero or say anything bad or he will tell you,
" MY ARMS HURT, MY ARMS HURT, I WAS A P.O.W., I AM A HERO ASK ANYBODY".
He gets away with murder, why, Hell, "HE WAS A POW".
At one of his town hall meetings he even paraded around a half blind demented "Real" war hero with all his medals on exploiting him. He has been hiding behind his disability for so long I was actually glad in 2000 when Bush went after him. Enough is enough he had been living off this hero BS with no political substance what so ever long enough. Much of his past can not even be substantiated. He can not account for most of his medals, ask him. They were just handed to him because of who his father was. It has long been just assumed his military records have been altered and faked by his father. It's nice when your father is an Admiral. Two other men in his camp who collaborated with the enemy were threatened with execution as traitors for doing the exact same thing Mccain himself admits doing in his book, except Mccain did it "32" times. But like I said, when your father is an Admiral your past can be what ever you say it is and after a while you even begin to believe it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Simple question: If Obama is for providing healthcare to all America's children, why is he against providing medical attention to infants who survive a failed abortion attempt? He voted against the Infant Protection act in Illinois and lied about it....stupidity? I think not....morally bankrupt....probably so.

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Simple question: If Obama is for providing healthcare to all America's children, why is he against providing medical attention to infants who survive a failed abortion attempt? He voted against the Infant Protection act in Illinois and lied about it....stupidity? I think not....morally bankrupt....probably so.

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm John McCain and I approved this message...

POW! POW! POW! POW! POW! POW!

Posted by: This Just In | August 25, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

The Haves, the Have Mores and John McCain


Eight years ago, then Governor George W. Bush revealingly joked about his backers at the 2000 Al Smith Dinner. "This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," Bush said, adding, "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base." With his own quip Saturday night that "$5 million" is his definition of "rich," John McCain made no mistake that he is Bush's natural heir.


Now, there is nothing wrong with being happily stinking rich and utterly detached. Nothing, that is, unless you make criticizing your political opponent as "elitist" and "out of touch" a centerpiece of your campaign.

Rick Davis, speaking on behalf of his $100 million man John McCain, earlier this month offered the latest formulation of Barack Obama as an effete, aloof denizen of the upper class:

"Only celebrities like Barack Obama go to the gym three times a day, demand 'MET-RX chocolate roasted-peanut protein bars and bottles of a hard-to-find organic brew - Black Forest Berry Honest Tea' and worry about the price of arugula."

Of course, Davis' "arugula war" is just another attempt at misdirection. After all, John McCain's $5 million threshold where "you move from middle class to rich" is just the latest episode of his enduring disconnect from the real lives of the American people.


For starters, McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, was back with the campaign last week.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.

In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of Bush's, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts for the rich has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:

Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.

Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."


*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."

Posted by: Dave Grohl | August 25, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

The POW response is his stock response for the "number of houses gaffe" and in fact every other criticism of him. What exactly does his captivity decades ago have to do with being so wealthy and frankly disorganized, that he doesn't know how many homes he owns?

I think it cheapens his service and the man today to use his POW experience as a shield for any reasonable criticism of him or his positions.

It's ok press/media. You can say it, talking about what happened in Viet Nam is not a meaningful response to such questions and criticisms!

Posted by: redbush | August 25, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse


The Republican party has another real loser as their candidate. McCain's as dumb or dumber than Bush is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iWYAOMYmp0

Posted by: Kyle | August 25, 2008 9:34 PM

"I hope his melanoma comes back

Posted by: McCain what a joke! | August 25, 2008 9:22 PM"

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I'm sure you hope it comes back REALLY fast, you're so rightly scared of losing to him! CNN 8/25- 47/47
Gallup 8/24- 45/45 Zogby last week FIVE POINT MCCAIN LEAD!!!!!!!!


Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey Bobo- McCain's for the Infant Protection Act and Sugar Cane Ethanol, your's isn't...your candidate is obviously not stupid....that leaves corrupt and morally bankrupt- which is it...or is it BOTH?

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

McCain will veto every single beer while those babies drink their bottled hot water.


The Republican party has another real loser as their candidate. McCain's as dumb or dumber than Bush is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iWYAOMYmp0

Posted by: Kyle | August 25, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

"I hope his melanoma comes back

Posted by: McCain what a joke! | August 25, 2008 9:22 PM"

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I'm sure you hope it comes back REALLY fast, you're so rightly scared of losing to him! CNN 8/25- 47/47
Gallup 8/24- 45/45 Zogby last week FIVE POINT MCCAIN LEAD!

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't even recognize McCain anymore, he's either dumber than a bag of rocks or he's getting senile right before our eyes. His odd behavior, confusion, his angry outbursts, his forgetfulness and his contradictory statements from one day to the next. Clearly his campaign is inept and disorganized. It's possible that he is developing Alzheimer's and all of this behavior is a symptom of dementia.


On the campaign trail this cycle, McCain frequently forgets key elements of policies, gets countries' names wrong, forgets things he's said only hours or days before and is frequently just confused. Any single example is inevitable for someone talking so constantly day in and day out. But the profusion of examples shows a pattern. Some of this is probably a matter of general unseriousness or lack of interest in policy areas like the economy that he doesn't care much about.

Posted by: BoBo1981 | August 25, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I hope his melanoma comes back

Posted by: McCain what a joke! | August 25, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Housing problem?
Why would "land developer" Tony Rezko sell off enough property to his neighbor to reduce his own property to a size below which his community allows one to build upon? Why did such a shrewd person pay full asking price for his land while simultaneously non real estate professional Obama bought his house at a 300K discount?

"The UK Times reports that Barack Obama's involvement with Chicago slum landlord Tony Rezko, currently under indictment, may involve money originating from a British-Iraqi Middle East wheeler-dealer, Nadhmi Auchi, a convicted criminal.

Rezko, an Obama fundraiser, helped facilitate Obama's purchase of a $1.65 million mansion in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood for $300,000 below the asking price. The owner wished to sell both the house and an adjoining lot. Mrs. Rezko paid the full asking price of $625,000 on the same day that the Obamas purchased their luxury home. At a substantial discount. The seller denies that there was any connection between the two transactions. Later, a small portion of the land was sold to the Obamas so that they could expand their garden.

Senator Obama calls this arrangement a "mistake."

Now it develops that Mr. and Mrs. Rezko apparently lacked the money to make the purchase of the plot of land.

In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."

Just weeks before the Hyde Park transactions, Auchi loaned $3.5 million to Rezko.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million."
ps
On Biden- Washington Post 10/24/07-

"In a lengthy interview with the Washington Post editorial board, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.) asserted that he is more prepared to be president than any other candidate, disputed the notion that governors are better suited for the White House than senators and warned that Pakistan is a potentially bigger threat than Iran.

Biden also stumbled through a discourse on race and education, leaving the impression that he believed one reason so many Washington D.C. schools fail is the city's high minority population."


Facts burn, don't they?
As much as you wished you had picked the right candidates...you and Axelrod can't make it so....We already have the right Joe on our side...
LIEBERMAN-
who never put down hard working Indian American 7 Eleven cashiers, like experienced Joe Biden did....ALSO, I don't believe Joe Lieberman sold out his constituency to MBNA and the credit card industry in return for a 1/2 million dollar job for his lobbyist son....

see today's NY Times p. A13...

Where is one Obama supporter who realizes that her or his candidate does sell out to the highest bidder- see Rezko and Illinois Farmers ...has almost no foreign poicy experience....but still will vote for him for a reason they can't quite put into words, summarized as "Change"?

Why is Obama for corn based Ethanol when it is 1/8th as efficient as sugar cane ethanol, leading to global warming and high food prices? Could it be his Illinois farmers' profits?

Why does such a man of the people favor allowing a fetus that has survived an
abortion attempt to die on the operating room table....I thought he wants all children to receive health care?????
ask him about the Infant Protection Act...
SHAMEFUL

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Hi, I’m John McCain. I'm running for George Bush's third term and I’m here to show you how you, too, can become wealthy beyond your wildest recollection!


Many of you might be thinking, John, how can I, a normal, middle-class guy, turn my $4.9 million annual salary into a fortune in real estate?


It’s simple – and you won’t even need a private jet to do it (although frankly, I don’t see how else you could get around to all seven, er, eight – I mean, how many houses do I own now?)! Just follow these easy steps and before you know it you, too, will be walking around in $500 Italian shoes – or better yet, saving the leather soles of those very same shoes by getting a golf-cart ride from another self-made Republican millionaire.


So, how do you do it? Let me tell you:


First – see to it that your daddy and grampy become admirals. Then, make sure to spend your entire life – even after you’ve become A REAL ESTATE TYCOON - on the dole of the U.S. government, from your health care to your disability checks. And be sure to take advantage of a taxpayer-funded college education by graduating in the bottom one-half percent of your class.


Next – and this is the tricky part – you need to arrange to get shot down in the fifth jet you’ve trashed at taxpayer expense, and then taken into custody by an enemy regime. Stay there for a few years – five would be ideal. It might be a good idea to make, oh, say, a few propaganda films for your captors while you’re in there. Before you leave, be sure to get your I SPENT 5 YEARS IN PRISON card stamped. That card is your ticket to wealth and power beyond your wildest dreams - every POW who has spent 5 YEARS IN PRISON is qualified to own many houses and to be president of the United States. Never, ever forget that.

(Oh, and while we’re on the subject, I should mention that it would probably be prudent at about this point to do your best to bury your 636-page military record so it will never see the light of day.)


Okay – once you’re released from your five years in prison – I mean, 5 YEARS IN PRISON - the hard part’s over. Start reminding people about your 5 YEARS IN PRISON. Never let an opportunity to mention your 5 YEARS IN PRISON pass. You don’t have to remember anything else, just 5 YEARS IN PRISON. You might not realize it, but you are now well on your way to becoming A REAL ESTATE TYCOON.


At this point, you may come to realize that you might have made the mistake – like a lot of people have – of marrying someone who at one time you might have thought of as your "wife," whom you since have come to realize was really just the mother of some of your children.


So before you start to build your new fortune, you’ll need to spend a couple years shopping around for a newer, better looking, and – most important – much, much richer model. Beer heiresses work well for this. But don’t be tempted to take the easy way out and just go for the first hottie you see – take your time: kick the tires, take ‘em for a test ride, rev up the engine and see how she handles the curves.


If you're starting to see how this all comes together, congratulations! You’re almost there!


Next step: dump your wife. If you can get a marriage license for the new c**t before your divorce to the old bag is final, by all means do so.


Marry a rich heiress. (If no rich heiresses are available, your task will be much harder but not impossible. Start selling your stuff on eBay, skip a vacation and get a second job, and you shouldn’t have any problem.)


Now, run for Congress. Use your wife’s money. Be sure to mention that you spent 5 YEARS IN PRISON. Sweep to victory on your platform of 5 YEARS IN PRISON.


Start buying houses using your wife’s money. Don’t keep track of them – there’s no need for someone who spent 5 YEARS IN PRISON to know how many houses he owns.


Make friends with someone who owns a lot of real estate, or at least who holds the notes on a lot of real estate. Do some favors for him. If he plays his cards right, he, too, might be able to spend 5 YEARS IN PRISON – or maybe just 50 months. After that, forget you ever knew him.


Once you’ve acquired enough houses to lose track of, be sure to arrange to fly around to them on your new wife’s private jet. (Don’t let her fly it, though – she’s probably addicted to stolen painkillers.)


Who knows? Following my easy, step-by-step method, you, too, could become A REAL ESTATE TYCOON who has so many houses he can’t even keep track of them!


Or – you could just run for president! You’re entitled, right? I mean, you spent 5 YEARS IN PRISON, right?

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Posted by: The Big Orange Satan | August 25, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet the Obama campaign comes out with a negative ad about yet another Leno appearance.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: mpp | August 25, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

It really surprises me that the Republicans let the media get away with the "houses" line. Why wouldn't McCain want to talk about houses? A convicted felon bought Obama's mansion for him, and Obama's brother lives in a mud hut on a dollar a day. Why not talk houses?

Posted by: Keeper Peeper | August 25, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

McCain has a good sense of humor and can poke fun at himself. Obama? Not so much.

Is that because he's afraid appearing lighthearted will reinforce the perception that he's too young for the job?

Posted by: Hampton | August 25, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

If you want to watch something funny, check out this parody of Cindy McCain ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT4tbdoZMmc

Posted by: NoCain | August 25, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable ... the man who said he would not politicize his POW experiences is joking about it on Jay Leno??? In response to a question about his inability to remember how many houses he owns, he dips into the POW well yet one more time??? He cheapens his service and POW experience and that of every man like my Dad, who spent 2 1/2 years in a German POW camp, saving lives, risking his own and never asking to be called a hero or to be let off the hook for each and every one of his failings. Amazing ...this guy is such a flip flopper the McCain of 2000 wouldn't vote for him. Country first??? McCain first.

Posted by: straight talk my a** | August 25, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Now that's a laugh!

Posted by: acarponzo | August 25, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

acarponzo:

Can you answer whether McCain supporters are supposed to "bop" Obama, or McCain. I think that part is a bit confusing.

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! Good jokes : )

Posted by: JakeD | August 25, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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