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McCain Tries to Rile Up Clinton Voters Against Obama

By Michael D. Shear
SEDONA, Ariz. -- A new television ad by Sen. John McCain aims to tap into anger at Sen. Barack Obama among the legions of Hillary Clinton supporters by suggesting that the Democratic nominee dissed his one-time rival.

Erasing any doubt that McCain has his sights set on Clinton voters, the new ad uses Clinton's own words to suggest that Obama passed her over because of the tough campaign she waged. The ad is titled "Passed Over."

"She won millions of votes. But isn't on his ticket," an announcer says. "Why? For speaking the truth."

The ad then shows Clinton criticizing Obama for speaking generalities ("You never hear the specifics); for his connections to Tony Rezko ("We still don't have a lot of answers."); and for being too negative

The announcer comes back on. "The truth hurt. And Obama didn't like it."

The idea is to portray Obama as a petulant and angry rival who refused to consider Clinton as a running mate because of his anger over her comments. And to tap into Clinton supporters who just might vote for McCain.

Clinton spokesperson Kathleen Strand wasn't buying it. "Hillary Clinton's support of Barack Obama is pretty clear," she said in an e-mail. "She has said repeatedly that Barack Obama and she share a commitment to changing the direction of the country, getting us out of Iraq, and expanding access to health care. John McCain doesn't. It's interesting how those remarks didn't make it into his ad."

The ad was supposed to be embargoed until 3 a.m., though the script leaked out before then.

What's the significance of that time? Well, the campaign's not saying. But it's not hard to imagine that the 3 a.m. time was meant to be an inside joke referring to Clinton's famous ad, which asked the question about who voters want answering the phone in the White House at 3 a.m.

The full text of the ad is below:

Script For "Passed Over" (TV :30)
ANNCR: She won millions of votes.
But isn't on his ticket.
Why?
For speaking the truth.
On his plans:

HILLARY CLINTON: "You never hear the specifics."

ANNCR: On the Rezko scandal:

HILLARY CLINTON: "We still don't have a lot of answers about Senator
Obama."

ANNCR: On his attacks:

HILLARY CLINTON: "Senator Obama's campaign has become increasingly
negative."

ANNCR: The truth hurt.
And Obama didn't like it.

JOHN MCCAIN: I'm John McCain and I approved this message.

By Web Politics Editor  |  August 23, 2008; 10:00 PM ET
Categories:  Ad Watch , Hillary Rodham Clinton , John McCain  
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Comments

Today's CNN poll agrees with Gallup-
47/47 tie after Biden announcement despite good numbers for Biden...I guess Zogby poll preBiden was right...perhaps choosing a senator with no executive experience and 3 dozen yrs in the Senate isn't the problem....perhaps the lightweight on the top of the ticket looks more like a lightweight in comparison to his running mate in this increasingly dangerous world.

Posted by: Scott | August 25, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

THIS IS GREAT -- THE END OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!

We have won!

Posted by: Mike Thomas | August 25, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

This ad is kind of like a fox telling the sheep that the sheep-dog is no good and they should trust him to guard the pasture. If the sheep fall for it they'll end up served on a platter with a little mint jelly. Lamb chops or mutton? This ad is aimed at complete idiots in the truest sense of the word--the uninformed.

Posted by: gwt301 | August 24, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey northernexposure

Don't you know that Democrats for McCain IS Clinton '12...these Clintonites are relieved Obama didn't choose Clinton and hitch all their wagons to an inexperienced losing cause....see today's Gallup and last week's Zogby polls....first time Democrat not leading significantly going into convention...

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey northernexposure

Don't you know that Democrats for McCain IS Clinton'12...these Clintonites are releaved Obama didn't choose Clinton and hitch all their wagons to an inexperienced losing cause....see today's Gallup and last week's Zogby polls....first time Democrat not leading significantly going into convention...

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow. McCain wants to stand up for Hillary Clinton. He's just upset that the arsenal of ads he had all prepared for the Obama/Clinton ticket are not going to get used. He would have LOVED to run against Obama and Clinton/Clinton. Sorry. It's not happening.

Posted by: Mrs. D. | August 24, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I believe many of the negative Clinton related messages are sent out by the GOPPERS. Didn't the McCain campaign encourage such activity. Of course they suggested you identify yourself as a McCain supporter, but then little things like integrity wouldn't bother the kind of people who crossed over to the Democratic Party to vote for Clinton in the Texas primary.

Posted by: Ceee | August 24, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

i am sure that mccain is just incensed that obama did not choose hillary for vp. he and rove and company were the most disrespectful bunch, just licking their lips at what kind of trash they could dig up on sentor clinton when they believed she would be the democratic nominee. mccain = wolf in sheep's clothing.

Posted by: northernexposure | August 24, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

PS EXXONN see today's Washington Post on Joe Biden's son - HE'S A LOBBYIST...OOPS

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey Exxonn-

Can you name Bidens 7 glass houses?
1 iowa comment regarding african americans ruining dc schools
2 iran "no nuclear threat"
3 indian 7 eleven jibe
4 obama's hygeine is "storybook"
5 almost thrown out of law school
6 claimed to be top of his class
7 proud to run with or vs mccain
also,
What's worse- so many investment properties, they're hard to keep track of?....OR one house paid for with the help of a Felon whose felony counts are easy to keep track of- SIX! With 14 million of the tax payers dollars kicked back to the friendly felon in a typical quid pro quo arrangement. Hmmmmm- not hard to figure


Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Romney 08 - How can a combined 15 mansions and net worth of a half a billion dollars be elitist?


McCain '08 - Brought to you by his sponsors at Exxon and Chevron


McCain '08 - no place for whiners about this great Bush economy of ours


McCain - proud to have taken the lobbyists out of Washington. (He (McCain) doesn't show up for votes and they (lobbyists) are all working for his campaign.)


McCain/Romney 08 - Changing their minds on issues depending on the audience since 2004


McCain/Romney 08 - At least we aren't black. Not even a little bit. I mean we are tooooootally pasty white. Have you seen Mitt dance?


McCain/Huckabee - Never Had, Never Will!
We're too Homophobic to be Gay!


McCain/Giuliani 08 - 5 marriages, 9/11, POW, Maverick, 9/11, POW ... I SAID 9/11 AND POW!! Are you freaking listening? ... Maverick


McCain/Pawlenty 08 - Abortion causes cancer! Don't vote for the cancer lovers!


McCain/Jindal 08 - Because we have dark folks in our party too! See!


McCain/Powell 08 - See above


McCain/Petraus 08 - Platonic man love at it's creepiest


HERE'S SOME "STRAIGHT-TALK"...MY FRIENDS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N38Ug_ugzXs&feature=related
.

Posted by: ExxonMcCain | August 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Scott

McCains been around for years and it seems that all that with all that experience he hasn't come up with anything except a rerun of Bush's disastrous 8 years.

Posted by: BZ | August 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey BZ-
Your candidates positions on corn ethanol, Iran's "tiny" threat, and the Infant's Protection Act just make Clinton and McCain supporters feel he has been in federal office even less than the 2 1/2 years he has served...while running for office 1 1/2 years of the 2 1/2.

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has been in the Senate 4 years longer than Barack. Since when does the candidate with the most experience get the nomination. If that were the case then the ticket should be Biden/Dodd. This has nothing to do with a women being passed over by a less experienced man. We vote for the candidate of our choice and this time Obama won. It was a race for the most delegates. Only if you don't count caucus states and do count uncontested states, FL and MI do you get a convoluted 18 million for Hillary. Years ago, Ike had zero years of elective office to Tafts long record yet won the nod. Hillary lost under the same rules as everyone, but if you prefer McCains dismal record on women to Obama's excellent record I find it very surprising.

Posted by: BZ | August 24, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey Abomination: Where's your apology for your candidate's opposition to the Infant Protection Act and lying to cover up?
Where's your explanation for his support of global warming corn ethanol that raises food prices over sugar cane ethanol that's 8 times more efficient?
No, you'd rather smear a war hero....as the Gallup daily polls show McCain steadily rising- tied today...keep it up...about as true as your VP candidate's "Masters Degree"

John McCain's Radio Address today

Good morning, this is John McCain, speaking to you at the end of an eventful week in the presidential campaign. All the talk today is about my opponent's selection of his running mate. To his new running mate, my congratulations and I'll get back to you real soon on your debating opponent.

The week began with a debate of sorts between Senator Obama and me at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. In case you missed it, the discussion yielded the line of the week, and maybe even of the campaign, when Pastor Rick Warren asked my opponent a very serious question. He wanted to know at what point, in my opponent's view, does a baby have human rights? Senator Obama thought about it for a moment, and came back with the reply that the question was, quote, "above my pay grade."

Here was a candidate for the presidency of the United States, asked for his position on one of the central moral and legal questions of our time, and this was the best he could offer: It's above his pay grade. He went on to assure his interviewer that there is a, quote, "moral and ethical element to this issue." Americans expect more of their leaders.

There seems to be a pattern here in my opponent's approach to many hard issues. Whether it's the surge in Iraq that has brought us near to victory, or the issue of campaign reform, or the question of offshore drilling, Senator Obama's speeches can be impressive. But when it's time for straight answers, clear conviction, and decisive action, suddenly all of these responsibilities are - well, as he puts it, "above my pay grade." As mottos of leadership go, it doesn't exactly have the ring of "the buck stops here."

Often, too, Senator Obama's carefully hedged answers obscure more than they explain, and this was the case in his conversation with Rick Warren. Listening to my opponent at Saddleback, you would never know that this is a politician who long since left behind any middle ground on the abortion issue. He is against parental notification laws, and against restrictions on taxpayer funding for abortions. In the Illinois Senate, a bipartisan majority passed legislation to prevent the horrific practice of partial-birth abortion. Senator Obama opposed that bill, voting against it in committee and voting "present" on the Senate floor.

In 2002, Congress unanimously passed a federal law to require medical care for babies who survive abortions - living, breathing babies whom Senator Obama described as, quote, "previable." This merciful law was called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Illinois had a version of the same law, and Barack Obama voted against it.

At Saddleback, he assured a reporter that he'd have voted "yes" on that bill if it had contained language similar to the federal version of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Even though the language of both the state and federal bills was identical, Senator Obama said people were, quote, "lying" about his record. When that record was later produced, he dropped the subject but didn't withdraw the slander. And now even Senator Obama's campaign has conceded that his claims and accusations were false.

For a man who talks so often about "hope," Senator Obama doesn't offer much of it in meeting this great challenge to the conscience of America. His extreme advocacy in favor of partial birth abortion and his refusal to provide medical care for babies surviving abortion should be of grave concern to reasonable people of goodwill on both sides of this issue. There is a growing consensus in America that we need to overcome narrow partisanship on this issue for both women in need and the unborn. We need more of the compassion and moral idealism that my opponent's own party, at its best, once stood for. No one is above the law, and no one is beneath its protection.

Upholding these principles, and bringing Americans together on the side of life, is the work of leadership. And I can assure you that if I am president, advancing the cause of life will not be above my pay grade. Thanks for listening.

John McCain, a U.S. Senator from Arizona, is the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.


Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 3:47 PM

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Democrats who did not support the least experienced candidate in the running were already disgusted. It has nothing to do with John McCain's ads.

Posted by: doctorate | August 24, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

This election reminds me of the Rodney King trial.

Millions saw the televised video of cops beating King, but the jury said, "So what?"

McCain could care less about Hillary not getting Obama's VP nod.

He just wants to remind voters... that this ___ man, dissed this ___ woman.

Slick. Real Slick.

Don't fall for the trick.

Posted by: The Truth | August 24, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain has released a flurry of hastily produced ads following the announcement of Joe Biden as Barack Obama's running mate. The ads feature Democrats, including Biden saying uncomplimentary things about Obama. But mostly they feature the desperation of McCain as he grasps for something with which to prop up his pathetic campaign. The latest ad closes with the tag line, "The Truth Hurts." McCain is precisely correct about that, though not in the way he imagines. There are some serious problems with this advertising strategy that will shortly become evident.


What's more, McCain is just as vulnerable to such attack ads featuring Republicans disparaging him and his policies. In fact he is more vulnerable, because there are many instances of Republicans bashing McCain throughout the years who were not political opponents. This video presents just a few examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0osbXJwIw


McCain's problems don't lie just in what fellow Republicans say about him. McCain's vulnerability also extends to the many ill-tempered rants he has directed at his colleagues. For instance:

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=942


The media, as usual, is continuing to donate airtime to McCain's propaganda. The recent ads were announced by the campaign, but they have never purchased air time to broadcast them. The thinly disguised intent here is simply to get the press to contribute free air time to McCain. And the press is complying like the little zombie poodles that they are. Therefore, as usual, it will be up to the blogosphere to enlighten the voting population. So keep spreading the word.

Posted by: Candy McCane | August 24, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."

Posted by: Mc Clinton Cain | August 24, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey Camp Obama-

Democrats for McCain equals Clinton '12

Don't you get it? Cooney and her fellow Clintonites don't want Hillary hitching her wagon to an inexperienced candidate, destined to fade as the world becomes a bit more threatening and change is represented by a 6 term senator...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

John McCain:
Unfit to serve as Commander-In-Chief
The spoiled son of military privilege got a free ride throughout his military career despite repeated instances of sex scandals and screw-ups

By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 27, 2008

John Sidney McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland in 1954. Young McCain wanted to become an admiral. He planned to be the "first son and grandson of four star admirals" to achieve such a distinction. But that was not to be. McCain III possessed none of the innate character and discipline traits that helped mold his father and grandfather into great military leaders.

His father, John S. "Junior" McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain, Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential in U.S. Navy operations.

At the Academy, aside being known as a "rowdy, raunchy, underachiever" who resented authority, Midshipman McCain became infamous as a leader among his fellow midshipmen for organizing "off-Yard activities" and hard drinking parties. Robert Timberg wrote in his book, The Nightingale's Song, that "being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck."

McCain's grades were "marginal." He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low "class standing," and no doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals, McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot.

Good Party Animal - Bad Pilot:

He spent the next two and a half years as a "naval aviator in training" at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 Skyraiders.

While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of Florida." Timberg wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."

McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft

McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.

While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi. The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain's grandfather.

In 1964 McCain became involved with Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he had met at Annapolis. They were married in Philadelphia on July 3, 1965.

Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg wrote that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his plane slammed into a clump of trees.

The Navy dismissed the crash as "unavoidable" and assigned McCain to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967, the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder bombing campaign against North Vietnam.

McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967 when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany. Shortly afterwards, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was shot down and captured by the Vietnamese.

Post-POW Years: Political Ambition and a New, Young, Rich Wife

Upon his release from North Vietnam and return to the United States in 1973, McCain reunited with his wife, Carol, who had been permanently crippled in a car accident while he was a POW.

Still yearning to become an admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.

Timberg described McCain's advancement: "in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather, since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path."

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."

This was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates. But, as with all his other past behaviors, McCain was never penalized; instead he always got away with his transgressions.

Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."


Posted by: McCrazyforpres | August 24, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

DiHinMi-
In his 2 years in the Senate, one spent campaigning, and his time in the Illinois legislature, what economic experience has
Obama ammassed? His greatest economic feat
is purchasing a 3 million dollar property
for a miilion and a half. (see Kadhmi Auchi and Tony Rezko)

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

We don't need a commercial to tell us we are outraged, oh I forgot, we are just stupid older women, incabable of reasoned judgement on our own. Thank you WaPo for explaining all this to me. We are all looking for a home, and at least the Repubs are making an effort, this is more than I can say about my DNC. Oh yes, I am sure the next insult is that I am in fact a Republican, again, I can't be a democratic woman with a brain, it must be that I am a poser Republican. And you can't understand what the real issues are with us, you are the intellectually chanllenged, not us.

Posted by: Cooney | August 24, 2008 4:25 PM

___

C'mon Cooney - the mccain camp is making fools of folks like you!!! Do you think Rove and his merry band of campaigners buy this hooey. Crocodile tears, and you're falling for it hook line and sinker. Issues, that's what this election is about.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

JakeD-
The level of discourse from Obama's supporters is incredible- they ask for issues, we provide them, then they resort to the lowest female anatomical rants and foam fingers....that's what must go on at Camp Obama, his boot camp for "followers".
I can't wait for the debates....lets start with the infant protection act... I'm pro Choice and enraged by Obama's position on this seemingly unifying legislation.

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Here's a gem of a video clip from the archives. During the January 30 GOP debate at the Reagan Library, Janet Hook of the LA Times asked John McBush why he was more qualified than Mitt Romney to manage the economy. In response, McBush managed to:


+ Say nothing about the economy

+ Say he was more patriotic than Mitt Romney

+ Cite his experience as a POW...again

+ Argue that "radical Islamic extremism" is a more important issue

+ Criticize a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq

+ Did I mention, say nothing about the economy?


It's truly a hall-of-fame moment in the annals of chronic John McBush dodgery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT6h0Ni-pxA
.

Posted by: DHinMI | August 24, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey Ace, I guess killing infants that have survived abortion is OK as long as we socialize health care and fund corn ethanol over 8 times more efficient sugar cane ethanol in order to prop up Illinois farmers, huh?

can you comprehend the comments below, or is it "above your pay raise"?

John McCain's Radio Address today

Good morning, this is John McCain, speaking to you at the end of an eventful week in the presidential campaign. All the talk today is about my opponent's selection of his running mate. To his new running mate, my congratulations and I'll get back to you real soon on your debating opponent.

The week began with a debate of sorts between Senator Obama and me at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. In case you missed it, the discussion yielded the line of the week, and maybe even of the campaign, when Pastor Rick Warren asked my opponent a very serious question. He wanted to know at what point, in my opponent's view, does a baby have human rights? Senator Obama thought about it for a moment, and came back with the reply that the question was, quote, "above my pay grade."

Here was a candidate for the presidency of the United States, asked for his position on one of the central moral and legal questions of our time, and this was the best he could offer: It's above his pay grade. He went on to assure his interviewer that there is a, quote, "moral and ethical element to this issue." Americans expect more of their leaders.

There seems to be a pattern here in my opponent's approach to many hard issues. Whether it's the surge in Iraq that has brought us near to victory, or the issue of campaign reform, or the question of offshore drilling, Senator Obama's speeches can be impressive. But when it's time for straight answers, clear conviction, and decisive action, suddenly all of these responsibilities are - well, as he puts it, "above my pay grade." As mottos of leadership go, it doesn't exactly have the ring of "the buck stops here."

Often, too, Senator Obama's carefully hedged answers obscure more than they explain, and this was the case in his conversation with Rick Warren. Listening to my opponent at Saddleback, you would never know that this is a politician who long since left behind any middle ground on the abortion issue. He is against parental notification laws, and against restrictions on taxpayer funding for abortions. In the Illinois Senate, a bipartisan majority passed legislation to prevent the horrific practice of partial-birth abortion. Senator Obama opposed that bill, voting against it in committee and voting "present" on the Senate floor.

In 2002, Congress unanimously passed a federal law to require medical care for babies who survive abortions - living, breathing babies whom Senator Obama described as, quote, "previable." This merciful law was called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Illinois had a version of the same law, and Barack Obama voted against it.

At Saddleback, he assured a reporter that he'd have voted "yes" on that bill if it had contained language similar to the federal version of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Even though the language of both the state and federal bills was identical, Senator Obama said people were, quote, "lying" about his record. When that record was later produced, he dropped the subject but didn't withdraw the slander. And now even Senator Obama's campaign has conceded that his claims and accusations were false.

For a man who talks so often about "hope," Senator Obama doesn't offer much of it in meeting this great challenge to the conscience of America. His extreme advocacy in favor of partial birth abortion and his refusal to provide medical care for babies surviving abortion should be of grave concern to reasonable people of goodwill on both sides of this issue. There is a growing consensus in America that we need to overcome narrow partisanship on this issue for both women in need and the unborn. We need more of the compassion and moral idealism that my opponent's own party, at its best, once stood for. No one is above the law, and no one is beneath its protection.

Upholding these principles, and bringing Americans together on the side of life, is the work of leadership. And I can assure you that if I am president, advancing the cause of life will not be above my pay grade. Thanks for listening.

John McCain, a U.S. Senator from Arizona, is the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.


Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Scott:

Thanks for McCain's radio comments. Right on the nose.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Can't run on your own steam, McCain? Sounds like a real leader to me.

Posted by: fbutler1 | August 24, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

See ya at the convention everyone!...wait a minute, I think I left my huge foam finger in house #5, but it could have been house #7 since that's the last one I bought. . . what's that? I bought 10 houses? Damn. I guess I'll have to check with my staff and get back to you.
I Hate It When That Happens!


I am so hoping that Grandpa McMansions picks Plastic Mitt as his running-mate.

The ads have already written themselves..."my friends":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5UWGS4Pkw

Posted by: ace mcfunkenstein | August 24, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

We don't need a commercial to tell us we are outraged, oh I forgot, we are just stupid older women, incabable of reasoned judgement on our own. Thank you WaPo for explaining all this to me. We are all looking for a home, and at least the Repubs are making an effort, this is more than I can say about my DNC. Oh yes, I am sure the next insult is that I am in fact a Republican, again, I can't be a democratic woman with a brain, it must be that I am a poser Republican. And you can't understand what the real issues are with us, you are the intellectually chanllenged, not us.

Posted by: Cooney | August 24, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

keesa22- have you met cj? Probably so, at "Camp Obama"

I signed up to get the VP choice on Obama.com and the next day got an invitation to attend Camp Obama, where I could better learn to bring my support "to the next level" !!??
I suppose the Kool aid was included

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

who cares what hillarymccain slaves do after mccain get finish munipulating them dummys if he get in office then he gonna turn his back on them chew them up spit them out like he never knew them. in see them tears their crying now after mccain get in office them tears gonna turn into a river after them slaves get finish paying taxes to benefit mccain an his wealthy party them slaves or gonna be eating bread and butter while hillary an mccain eating steaks in patatos a bunch of dummys. an ya obama talk to hillary an bill before he made his decision the media can tell them anything they gonna run with it.

Posted by: keesa22 | August 24, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Hillary should be riled up. Obama disrespected her on many occasions. She needs to knock his block off.

http://blog.topicaltopics.net/2008/08/what-should-hillary-do/

Posted by: Andy | August 24, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The Hillary Clinton Democrats were simply waiting for Barack Obama to choose his running mate, and because he did it in such a crude manner having not even vetted the New York Senator, this is now the permission slip to shift over to the McCain camp. I feel insulted as do many Clinton supporters over the way this VP process was handled. Only Hillary Clinton as a VP pick would have changed my mind to vote for Obama. John McCain and Norm Coleman get my vote, as do all other Republicans down ballot. Obama has negative coattails.

Posted by: Veronica | August 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

To Hillary Smith
No I am not making things up. I gave you a direct quote. And how is keeping the gas price at the $4.00 a gallon going to help the working class. This is Obama's answer to the environment. He does not understand that every time a working class mother goes to the market to buy milk for her children, the gas price is passed on. Every time heatingcoal is delivered, the gas price is passed on. Every time the senior citizen goes to get life sustaining medications, the gas price is passed on. How is passing on gas prices to every necessary purchase helping the poor and working class. The wealthy (like Obama) can afford it or write it off their income tax and the middle class will have some difficulty but can go out and purchase more fuel efficient cars. The poor and working class people have very little to no extra money to be making car payments on expensive new cars. This is the man who is supposed to be the answer to America, when he has a disconnect that is every bit as large as the guy he is running against. I am not a McCain fan, however, I am getting tired of having to settle for the least destructive candidate.
Obama was elected on a technicality. He got delegates that he was not entitled to.
I would also point out that the media ran program after program on racism in America during the primaries. If this were a jury trial instead of an election, there would have been a mistrial. The judge would want the jury to make up their minds based on the facts of the case. Not so in this election. Obama got tons of free campaign ads with that kind of programing. And it appeared to the average person to be independent. If the tables had been turned and the media instead ran program after program on sexism in America, the Obama people would have been crying foul. This election was made into a race thing and it was the media and the Obama campaign that did it, not Clinton.

The problem is that if one disagrees about fairness having to do with this election and the race card being used, well then, you must be a racist.
It is OK to be a sexist as long as no one calls you a racist.
By the way, Obama has taken a VP who brought you the likes of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who, when Anita Hill accused him of sexual harassment, got a free pass, why, because he was a male and she was female. Justice Thomas sits on the Supreme Court for life and Obama's VP choice was a major reason he is there.
No Hillary, I am not making these things up. Please find an independent source and you will see that I am not "making this stuff up." I listened to interview of latinos who said they were turned away from causouses. I watched an interview of a incumbent elected official (who happened to be a black woman)in Chicago who was push out of office on technicalities. The same tactic was used in the primary. There will be no technicality to use in the general election and the Democrats will have squandered another precious chance to take back the White House and turn this country around.
Please do some research, honest research and then you can make up you own mind.
Listen to those interviews.

And now I leave you with this quote.

"If the good withold their testimony, we shall be at the mercy of the bad."

Thomas Jefferson
February 14, 1801
Washington
Washington

Posted by: Hope | August 24, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's Radio Address today

Good morning, this is John McCain, speaking to you at the end of an eventful week in the presidential campaign. All the talk today is about my opponent's selection of his running mate. To his new running mate, my congratulations and I'll get back to you real soon on your debating opponent.

The week began with a debate of sorts between Senator Obama and me at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. In case you missed it, the discussion yielded the line of the week, and maybe even of the campaign, when Pastor Rick Warren asked my opponent a very serious question. He wanted to know at what point, in my opponent's view, does a baby have human rights? Senator Obama thought about it for a moment, and came back with the reply that the question was, quote, "above my pay grade."

Here was a candidate for the presidency of the United States, asked for his position on one of the central moral and legal questions of our time, and this was the best he could offer: It's above his pay grade. He went on to assure his interviewer that there is a, quote, "moral and ethical element to this issue." Americans expect more of their leaders.

There seems to be a pattern here in my opponent's approach to many hard issues. Whether it's the surge in Iraq that has brought us near to victory, or the issue of campaign reform, or the question of offshore drilling, Senator Obama's speeches can be impressive. But when it's time for straight answers, clear conviction, and decisive action, suddenly all of these responsibilities are - well, as he puts it, "above my pay grade." As mottos of leadership go, it doesn't exactly have the ring of "the buck stops here."

Often, too, Senator Obama's carefully hedged answers obscure more than they explain, and this was the case in his conversation with Rick Warren. Listening to my opponent at Saddleback, you would never know that this is a politician who long since left behind any middle ground on the abortion issue. He is against parental notification laws, and against restrictions on taxpayer funding for abortions. In the Illinois Senate, a bipartisan majority passed legislation to prevent the horrific practice of partial-birth abortion. Senator Obama opposed that bill, voting against it in committee and voting "present" on the Senate floor.

In 2002, Congress unanimously passed a federal law to require medical care for babies who survive abortions - living, breathing babies whom Senator Obama described as, quote, "previable." This merciful law was called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Illinois had a version of the same law, and Barack Obama voted against it.

At Saddleback, he assured a reporter that he'd have voted "yes" on that bill if it had contained language similar to the federal version of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Even though the language of both the state and federal bills was identical, Senator Obama said people were, quote, "lying" about his record. When that record was later produced, he dropped the subject but didn't withdraw the slander. And now even Senator Obama's campaign has conceded that his claims and accusations were false.

For a man who talks so often about "hope," Senator Obama doesn't offer much of it in meeting this great challenge to the conscience of America. His extreme advocacy in favor of partial birth abortion and his refusal to provide medical care for babies surviving abortion should be of grave concern to reasonable people of goodwill on both sides of this issue. There is a growing consensus in America that we need to overcome narrow partisanship on this issue for both women in need and the unborn. We need more of the compassion and moral idealism that my opponent's own party, at its best, once stood for. No one is above the law, and no one is beneath its protection.

Upholding these principles, and bringing Americans together on the side of life, is the work of leadership. And I can assure you that if I am president, advancing the cause of life will not be above my pay grade. Thanks for listening.

John McCain, a U.S. Senator from Arizona, is the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.


Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"Fact check and truth about the deal. Please read and make up your own mind rather then listen to lies by faceless blogers."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/rezko_reality.html


You might try checking out who is behind FackCheck before you put your trust in it. It's a front for B O, Courtesy of Annenberg (sp?)

Posted by: bthiels | August 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain does not support the Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Act.

HRC supporters who vote for McCain are not feminists.

Posted by: bmccormick | August 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Former Clinton supporters voting willing to vote for M Ccain = C$unts for McCain. Ask his wife if the title fits.

Posted by: cj | August 24, 2008 3:28 PM

THIS THE LEVEL OF INTELLECT THAT GOES TO "CAMP OBAMA" TO WORSHIP A NAKED EMPEROR!
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE LOSING THE REST OF AMERICA- SEE TODAY'S GALLUP POLL

Posted by: SCOTT | August 24, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Off to a cookout, have a great day people!


Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 2:57 PM

1/2 hour later still spewing...

Posted by: scott | August 24, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Former Clinton supporters voting willing to vote for M Ccain = C$unts for McCain. Ask his wife if the title fits.

Posted by: cj | August 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

One House

Six Felony Convictions

No Gallup Lead...

Nope, Deep Blue, my guy made up a 10 point bounce and leads the latest Zogby by 5...


It's the tired wet rock star that's going down

Hey how was your "cook out?"

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

We would have health care if not for it being screwed up by Hillary. That is the consensus by every one who worked on it.

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In the past Hillary said "a vast, right-wing conspiracy" undermined her attempts to improve our healthcare system. She was roundly ridiculed by corporate media pundits for having pointed this out.

In recent months, Bush administration officials and operatives have used bellicose language, and provocative meddling in Georgia to promote thier corporate agenda. Now, we all know, Putin has invaded Georgia. McCain's response was to quickly add more bellicosity, and then pounce on the opportunity to promote his own foreign policy credentials. He then characterized Obama's careful response as weak and naive.
This forces Obama to pick Biden if we are to take back the White House and avoid continued disasterous republican plunder and blunder.

So it was Bush, McCain and the rest of the right wing conspirators who forced Hillary out. Don't reward them by failing to support Obama.

Posted by: Charles W. | August 24, 2008 2:32 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

According to two officials involved with the VP search, Hillary "asked not to be vetted unless she was going to be picked". (see "Biden got Obama call during root canal", AP article, 8-23-08)

This fits in with her, “I’ll release my tax returns when I’m the Nominee" and "I’ll release the donors to the Clinton Library when I’m President."

Posted by: cincyr | August 24, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

One Spouse
One House
Obama

Posted by: orange | August 24, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

And don't get me wrong, I'm not judging the guy for making the decision, as a 40 year old man, to marry into an organized crime family.

But there's no way on God's green earth that a guy like that should be POTUS.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Scott,

Your guy is going down.

Sincerely,

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Fact check and truth about the deal. Please read and make up your own mind rather then listen to lies by faceless blogers.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/rezko_reality.html


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Hey Arturo- McCain did pledge never to go negative and for months diod not....then, DO YOU REMEMBER "BABY ALEX" AND GEORGE SOROS'S MULTIMILLION DOLLAR 100 YEAR SMEAR (STILL TROOPS IN JAPAN AND KOREA...AND THANKS TO THE SURGE IRAQ IS GETTING SAFE ENOUGH FOR OUR TROOPS THERE TO LEAVE)???
OBAMA BEGAN THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN and now will lose because he can't stop it...attacking McCain on houses when his was purchased his with the help of a multiple felon...Glass Houses?
If Hillary won, perhaps the vodka drinking buddies would have kept it high handed, but David Axelrod took off the gloves and now is crying foul...how is baby Alex doing lately?

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 2:51 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Here is a joke McCain told at a Republican fundraiser in '98:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”

Reported by Dowd (NYT) and David Corn.

Posted by: renu1 | August 24, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Gallup National Tracking Poll today 8/24-


TIE

First time in recent past Democrats hold no significant lead going into convention!

Hey Look, the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes!

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"As for McCain, the NY Times is starting to vet him: "

Sure would be nice if NY Times would vet Barack Obama -- there's so much stuff out there they wouldn't have time to rehash the old worn out stuff on John McCain!

Former Hillary supporter now voting for McCain!

Posted by: Country First | August 24, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Deep Blue, It's spelled "felony convictions" you know like Tony Rezko, the guy who helped Obama buy his Glass house and then got millions in tax payer money!
vet your own candidate first

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Good ad, could have been much harder hitting given the wealth of material. However, McCain doesn't have to work very hard to convince this Hillary supporter to vote for him.

For those Obama supporters "concerned" about contributions from Hillary's base--no worries, we're contributing to Citizens for McCain.

Posted by: hj | August 24, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Marie,

Yeah, Clinton is in trouble: the most recent poll shows that 49% of the people NEVER want her to be President. Her unfavorables basically disqualify her. She'll never get as far in a primary again, having turned off the moral progressives and the blacks.

As for McCain, the NY Times is starting to vet him:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html
elony convictions, race tracks, mob connections, assassination, stealing drugs… and it doesn’t even get into Keating or, more importantly, ***who Marley and Hensley worked for and with.***
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?ref=opinion

Off to a cookout, have a great day people!


Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The National Organization for Women has finally come around! Thank you!

Barack Obama Chooses VAWA Champion as Running Mate;
Hillary Clinton to be Nominated at Convention

Statement of NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy

August 23, 2008

Senator Hillary Clinton was our first choice, and that of 18 million primary voters, but presumptive Democratic nominee Senator Barack Obama's pick, Joe Biden, is a friend of women and a strong selection for Vice President. Biden authored and championed the landmark 1994 Violence Against Women Act (VAWA), winning bipartisan support and unprecedented funding for prevention, shelter and safety. VAWA has twice been reauthorized, each time with increased protections for survivors of violence.

NOW welcomes this important opportunity for one of our champions to participate in a national dialogue around issues that are facing our country and our world. We know that Sen. Biden will bring the crucial issue of violence prevention to the forefront as he travels the country discussing issues of concern to voters, especially women voters.

We will be at the Democratic Convention and look forward to Hillary Clinton's name being placed in nomination -- the first woman to compete in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and the U.S. territories -- and to a roll call where her extraordinary accomplishments and deep support will be recognized by the delegates.

At the convention we will also celebrate the life of our sister and friend, Hon. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, at an event honoring Women's Equality Day, the 88th anniversary of U.S. women winning the right to vote.


We know that Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, is a longstanding opponent of women's rights, and NOW PAC will actively work to prevent him from succeeding George W. Bush in the White House. At the same time, we will mobilize to support and elect women's rights supporters at every level of government in November.

Posted by: B in NYC | August 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

jralger-
go to JohnMcCain.com- I doubt he has the time to read your blog ....
hey- how was "Camp Obama"?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

A new wave of Southwestern polls find McCain in a strong position, as he leads big in New Mexico and Nevada: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/08/24/battle-of-the-west-wave-of-polls-show-mccain-in-strong-position

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Cry in your Cheerios, Clintonistas.

She's so done.

Posted by: Susan | August 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey Arturo- McCain did pledge never to go negative and for months diod not....then, DO YOU REMEMBER "BABY ALEX" AND GEORGE SOROS'S MULTIMILLION DOLLAR 100 YEAR SMEAR (STILL TROOPS IN JAPAN AND KOREA...AND THANKS TO THE SURGE IRAQ IS GETTING SAFE ENOUGH FOR OUR TROOPS THERE TO LEAVE)???
OBAMA BEGAN THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN and now will lose because he can't stop it...attacking McCain on houses when his was purchased his with the help of a multiple felon...Glass Houses?
If Hillary won, perhaps the vodka drinking buddies would have kept it high handed, but David Axelrod took off the gloves and now is crying foul...how is baby Alex doing lately?

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain, I really dont have time to read this type of article (so I didn't). However, as a registered voter My concerns are this: how do you plan to reverse the Nation's financial crisis, preserve America's jobs, and repair our weakened Economy. Also, would it be possible to again describe why your appraoch is better than that proposed by Senator Obama ? Thank you.

Posted by: jralger | August 24, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I see there are still some claiming to be upset that Obama did not at least "vet" Clinton in the Veepstakes. As someone who did not support either candidate in the primary (I am a registered Independent), I suggest that there might well have been some sensitivity on the part of the Obama campaign- perhaps even a deal between the 2 senators.

Part of the vetting process includes disclosure of voluminous financial records- records of the sort the Clintons have been reluctant to make public, for whatever reasons. Is it ridiculous to suppose that the Obama camp decided not to put Clinton on the spot? For all we know, when Clinton and Obama met a few months ago, Obama might have brought the financial disclosure issue up and asked CLinton if she wished to participate, letting her decide.

None of us know any of this, of course, but it seems plausible- Clinton has openly endorsed Obama, etc. And of course, the Obama campaign is not totally stupid- they understand that in not publicly considering Clinton, they are making it harder for the party to unite. So, perhaps some of the Clinton supporters might want to look at alternative interpretations of things.

Posted by: Question | August 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Deep Blue,

Wow! Thanks for that link! And look at this little nugget I found that nobody in the media is talking about!

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- With Barack Obama nipping at her heels in Iowa, Hillary Clinton went on the state's public television Dec. 14 to say: "I've been vetted. ... There are no surprises."

That was the first use in presidential campaign politics of an unusual word. After losing in Iowa Jan. 3, Sen. Clinton said of Sen. Obama, "Everybody needs to be vetted." Chief Clinton strategist Mark Penn, on the way to New Hampshire, said of his candidate, "She's fully vetted ... and I don't think that process has occurred with Barack Obama." Clinton then told a rally, "Of all the people running for president, I've been the most vetted, the most investigated and -- my goodness -- the most innocent

LOL! Maybe Obama's V.P. team took Hillary at her word!

Posted by: Marie | August 24, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

It's the TRUTH. While Biden is better than Barry Hussien, Clinton should head the ticket. The socialist, Barry Hussein will lose.

Posted by: dossier | August 24, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party is at a crossroads. Its not going to get over the primary process so easily. Obama's weaknesses are going to become more pronounced as we head towards the election. By choosing Biden, he's admitting that he's clueless on foreign policy. Too bad he can't have 2 Vice-Presidents. Then he could choose some one to help with the economy.
Obama inherited W. Bush's financial contributions and a Madison Ave effort to make him seem viable. He's already for postponing withdrawal of the troops in Iraq and now he's pro offshore drilling. My my my how one can "change".

Posted by: RichardMorse | August 24, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

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(sitting on that stool, listening to Biden, soaking wet, Obama looked like Christopher Guest on the set of Spinal Tap, a tired rock star, no flash, no substance...)

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Its sad to see Hillary in this situation. She won most number of votes and these nasty Dems have snatched the nomination and handed it over to this stealth candidate. Essentially they "Selected" the inexperienced guy and not through the process of Primary "Election".

Even though Hillary is vocal.. we can clearly read behind those words into her concern for true Americans just because of these dems and their radical nominee with ties to nasty pastor wright, slum lord convicted criminal Rezko, khalidi, Nadmi Auchi, Racist Sharpton, mean jackson.. jeez... its really scary to think about our future..
I wish hillary could continue to speak the truth to americans and protect us from this radical guy who has a questionable character and ties to terrorists Ayers and friends.

Posted by: Mitchel | August 24, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

In the past Hillary said "a vast, right-wing conspiracy" undermined her attempts to improve our healthcare system. She was roundly ridiculed by corporate media pundits for having pointed this out.

In recent months, Bush administration officials and operatives have used bellicose language, and provocative meddling in Georgia to promote thier corporate agenda. Now, we all know, Putin has invaded Georgia. McCain's response was to quickly add more bellicosity, and then pounce on the opportunity to promote his own foreign policy credentials. He then characterized Obama's careful response as weak and naive.
This forces Obama to pick Biden if we are to take back the White House and avoid continued disasterous republican plunder and blunder.

So it was Bush, McCain and the rest of the right wing conspirators who forced Hillary out. Don't reward them by failing to support Obama.

Posted by: Charles W. | August 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The Neo Nazis that are working under the alias "Republicans" are busy again.


They (McCain/Karl Rove) are trying to frighten the American voter
into making himself a slave again.


When corporate America turned to China, India, Mexico and Bangladesh to manufacture its products,
it turned its back on the Middle Class in the U.S.A.


The idiocy of this policy has not reached its end.


It is akin to pumping the well dry in order
to irrigate the garden.


Very soon the well and the garden no longer exists.


McCain and his Rove puppets that are selling this fear again are the same ones that inspired one of our greatest leaders, President Franklin Roosevelt etc
to pray for our courage by saying,
"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself".


They have spread terror, hate, greed and lust over our consciousness, until they convinced even our representatives that we should enter into a war of our own making.


That was the greatest mistake we have ever made.


And it was done for their control of "OIL".


The McCain neocons have their $4.00 a gallon gasoline...


At that price, it will last a long time...... when it is only used in lawn mowers.


Are you going to vote for one of them....again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBfngOsvmA0

Posted by: Agent Orange | August 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

While the media debates the "horse race," they ignore the silent constitutional crisis that already has eroded the rule of law in America:

An illicit campaign for political dominance -- the extra-legal targeting of American citizens by government-supported Citizen "vigilante justice" volunteer organizations and Corps, and a network of secret government programs that destroy people's finances and degrade their health without benefit of due process of law.

Read about it here:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/get-political-vic-livingston-opinion-expose-state-supported-vigilante-squads-doing-domestic-terrorism
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/zap-have-you-been-targeted-directed-energy-weapon-victims-organized-gang-stalking-say-its-happening-usa-1
http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener | August 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I will probably vote (also reluctantly) for Obama, but his lack of experience worries me a great deal. He's a great speaker, but he seems to be a flip-flopper with very little policy substance. I wish it had been Hillary for VP, but I take comfort in the fact that Biden will be there to help steer the ship. It is really looking like the British system with Obama as the king and Biden as the able prime minister.

I agree that I see no reason for Hillary to go out of her way to work for Obama and I certainly would see no reason for her to take a position in the administration. She could do more in the Senate.

Posted by: JHL | August 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

this whole thread can be summed up with two words:


OBAMA FATIGUE

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Compare the first ad McCain put out using Biden’s statements about Obama and the McCain campaign said:

John McCain spokesman Ben Porritt issued the following statement on Barack Obama's selection of Joe Biden as his running mate:

"There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden. Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be President."

And Obama selected Biden.

Now in this new ad they’re trying to say that Obama passed over Clinton because of her criticism!

What’s wrong with them?

McCain better not select Romney because there’s lots of material for ads on what whey said about each other including:

Team Romney seeks to remind voters of: The angry old man, yelling at neighborhood kids to "Get off my lawn!"


Posted by: Sandy | August 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

They keep using the Rove comparison but the fact is Mccain is terrible at it. Karl Rove was on the Greta Van Susteren show the other night. Rove said he thought Obama would win. In fact he was almost making fun at how badly Mccains campaign was. He even said Obama had learned some good lessons from watching him and was good at it. He broke it dome pretty simply and you could see how he is probably right, Mccain can't win.

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This has nothing to do with fact, with fairness, with concern over poor Hillary and her poor, poor supporters and how sad and bad they must feel. This does not even appear to have anything to do with what McCain feels or says publicly.


The McCain campaign is on autopilot desperation already, in full Rove-Mode, designed to act like a ball machine, continuously firing fecal matter at the public in hopes that some parts of it will resonate with certain voters and it won't.


The problem? It is exactly the campaign that McCain pledged that he would never run. If McCain can't even keep his pledge to run a clean campaign, how can the American people believe his pledge to run a clean government?

Posted by: arturo | August 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

What McCain says is dangerously false...for him.


Trust McCain and he will screw your family by raising your taxes to pay for more tax cuts for the rich (his family).


Trust McCain and he will screw your family by sending your kids to Iraq and Georgia (not the good one) and God only knows where.


Trust McCain and he will provoke more 3 a.m. phone calls.


Trust McCain and he will betray you by putting his need for extra fabulous luxury ahead of your family's need for health insurance.


Trust McCain and he will tell you lies about his policies, his opponent, and how they really compare.


Trust McCain and he will cheat you out of your vote.


Obama-Biden '08 -- One house, one wife, one America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: astral99 | August 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

RE: Rioting after Rodney KingPosted by: Spector | August 24, 2008 1:20 PM

These ignorant stereotypical remarks are precisely why I am glad that, for now, there is not a chance of a Clinton near the White House.

The dog whistle of coded race-baiting the Gold Ole' Southern boy Bill and his wife blew: Unleashed voters like Spector on the political horizon and gave them the ghost of Jessie Helm's voice.

Posted by: Marie | August 24, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Anon,

I agree about the Clintons behaving badly in the primaries.

http://clintonattacksobama.pbwiki.com/Incident+Tracker

It was great to see the moral, progressive heavyweights come out to support Obama after the attacks: Kennedy, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, etc.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

You should not be reluctant. They were essentially the same candidates as far as issues go and Hillary will still be right there pushing the same issues right at Obama's side. She will have almost as much influence as she would have had as a VP. If Hillary was really sincere in the first place and it wasn't just all about here, you have nothing to worry about. If she was not, then we got lucky anyway. The main thing is to get the white house, that is number "1". That is why I have put my business and life on hold to work for Obama. I believe it is that important.

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I was a Hillary supporter and I will n ow -- very reluctantly -- vote for Obama. The VP choice has something to do with that. I'm glad Obama recognized that he needs someone to balance out his experience. That's a good role for Biden, as it would have been for Hillary.

At the same time, I think Hillary has a right to feel snubbed. Obama clearly does not want or think he needs her support, so I wish they would be honest about that. I think the Clinton's should not go to the convention. It is just a sham. I would feel much better about everything if Hillary pulled out.

Posted by: VIrginia Dem | August 24, 2008 1:46 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

RE: if not downright riots a la Rodney King.Posted by: Spector | August 24, 2008 1:20 PM

It is precisely this ignorant stereotypical sentiment that was unleashed when the Clinton's blew the dog whistle of race-baiting that causes me great relief that Hillary is not part of Obama's ticket. She lost me at 'RFK'. Bill lost me in S.C. I'm never going back!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

There is no way Hillary would have ever stayed in her place. It would have been a dysfunctional white house with a weekly soap opera going on. These are serious times we don't need that.

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I don't think that an Obama-Clinton Administration would have been able to effectively govern the country. Her campaign was chaos, his campaign was a well-oiled machine.

And Biden gives him what he needs to win in November:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/can-biden-out-hillary-hillary.html

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't think that an Obama-Clinton Administration would have been able to effectively govern the country. Her campaign was chaos, his campaign was a well-oiled machine.

And Biden gives him what he needs to win in November:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/can-biden-out-hillary-hillary.html

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Except for when there was a draft or in time of war who are the people who sign up for militant service? They are people who have nothing else going for them. Military service is not some fantastic experience. it is just a job that is easy to get when you can't get anything else and has pretty good benefits. I was in Viet Nam but it sure was not by choice and I would be the last to claim to be a hero or brave. I just did my duty as was forced on me, not asked, I was drafted. I in no way supported the Viet Nam war before or after.
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hey cdgainsville, thank you for serving our country. It's amazing that a veteran would hold McCain's service against him. If you believe the first and fourth most liberal senators currently serving in Washington, who have not saw fit to serve in the armed forces, have the answers and that bipartisan accomplishment should be ignored, we will agree to disagree...

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

This rationale is yet another example of McCain and his Rovebot campaign flunkies shooting their collective mouth off in another lame "Oh yeah! Well Obama did or didn't (insert total bs line here)! All that's left to them is to try to get the focus off McCain's miserable character and record. So they continue to spew childish nonsense like six-year olds caught with their hands in our cookie jar.


Here's some "straight-talk"...my friends

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/49887-crowd-protests-outside-one-of-mccain-s-many-homes
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Posted by: McCain = Bush | August 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It is unbelievable that Hillary feminist voters would EVER consider voting republican. When have the republicans ever done to advance womens rights. The republican party( not specific individuals)fought the Equal Rights laws,& have done nothing to enforce the EPA.Remember that the conservatives believe women should walk behind & wear burkas, at least in some circles.If the Hillaryites want 4/8 more years of bush, then stay home.The rest of the democratic party WILL remember if Obama loses because of you.IF you want to change the DC dynamics, get to work.This ain't high school.

Posted by: tlrasnic, SW Virginia | August 24, 2008 1:16 P
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tlrasnic- Democrats for McCain is another term for Clinton '12 ! See Roxanne's post

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I was a Hillary supporter and I will n ow -- very reluctantly -- vote for Obama. The VP choice has something to do with that. I'm glad Obama recognized that he needs someone to balance out his experience. That's a good role for Biden, as it would have been for Hillary.

At the same time, I think Hillary has a right to feel snubbed. Obama clearly does not want or think he needs her support, so I wish they would be honest about that. I think the Clinton's should not go to the convention. It is just a sham. I would feel much better about everything if Hillary pulled out.

Posted by: VIrginia Dem | August 24, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I doubt any really care they are just opportunists who are using this Hillary issue to forward their own agendas. These people would never get a shot on Larry King or any main stream media normally. The one woman based in Miami, I forget her name is a joke. To her this is an opportunity to make a buck with her website but it doesn't seem to be working. The last rally she formed she got 4 as in "4" to show up. This Hillary thing is completely overblown.

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It is unbelievable that Hillary feminist voters would EVER consider voting republican. When have the republicans ever done to advance womens rights. The republican party( not specific individuals)fought the Equal Rights laws,& have done nothing to enforce the EPA.Remember that the conservatives believe women should walk behind & wear burkas, at least in some circles.If the Hillaryites want 4/8 more years of bush, then stay home.The rest of the democratic party WILL remember if Obama loses because of you.IF you want to change the DC dynamics, get to work.This ain't high school.

Posted by: tlrasnic, SW Virginia | August 24, 2008 1:16 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with fact, with fairness, with concern over poor Hillary and her poor, poor supporters and how sad and bad they must feel. This does not even appear to have anything to do with what McCain feels or says publicly.


The McCain campaign is on autopilot desperation already, in full Rove-Mode, designed to act like a ball machine, continuously firing fecal matter at the public in hopes that some parts of it will resonate with certain voters and it won't.


The problem? It is exactly the campaign that McCain pledged that he would never run. If McCain can't even keep his pledge to run a clean campaign, how can the American people believe his pledge to run a clean government?

Posted by: arturo | August 24, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

hey cdgainsville, thank you for serving our country. It's amazing that a veteran would hold McCain's service against him. If you believe the first and fourth most liberal senators currently serving in Washington, who have not saw fit to serve in the armed forces, have the answers and that bipartisan accomplishment should be ignored, we will agree to disagree...

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to all those Hillary fans who she was relying on to retire her debt. Lets see, she raised less than $4 million in June and less than $3 million in July and still has $25 million in debts.

So much for all those 18,250,000 votes she got in the primaries. Politics being what is is, no one supports a loser; these voters evaporated. Hillary has no base.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I mean the poll in NC showing *McCain* with the 2pt lead...

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

It's a false claim that EVERY Clinton supporter is bitter. It's a small but LOUD few who can't accept reality. Get over it! Everyone I know personally, who supported Clinton, has now moved on and is enthusiastically working to elect our Democratic candidate, Barack Obama. Realists know that we can't afford to continue the policies of GWBush - tge same policies which McCain has embraced.
I'd further venture a guess that a good portion of the posters here are McCain trolls.

Posted by: Joyce | August 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Yup, Mitt the Mormon, the guy who wears the magic underwear is the pick. McCain thinks he can win Michigan, which is a silly notion because last week when the national polls had Obama up 2 he was up 7 in Michigan.

With historical turnout among young and black voters No Carolina and Georgia were already in play. Recent polls showing Obama with a 2pt lead in No Cackalacky are a joke, they are based on regular turnout and Obama getting 74% of the black vote. Blacks are coming out at an extra 20-30% and going 95% for Obama. The polls are understated.

And taking a Mormon is going to hurt the Republicans in the South. That's what they get for fostering a superficial religiosity and for promoting narrow-minded KKK-meets-Bob Jones evangelism.

People who should not be judging other people, people who should understand that all things are possible with God - yes, even a Mormon, or an atheist, getting into heaven - are going to be very upset with McCain over the pick. He could lose Mississippi too, which is 40% black. Bob Barr may get a lot of votes in the deep south. Votes that would have gone to McCain.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I like cheese.

Posted by: Rupert | August 24, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Someone should ask McCain what he did for sex during those years as a POW. Always wondered if he had a "close friend" who helped him out. Just curious.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I think the commercial does in fact hit home for us 18 Million Hillary suppotrers - differing in impact, person to person, it still however, affects us all. The fact that not only was Hillary "passed-over," but she was intentionally overlooked, and so vulgarly and coarsely, by not even being considered, or 'vetted' like the others. She was kept out from the start, even when she was supposedly on the 'short list' according to Obama's campaign people at the time. And she would have brought over the rest of the 50% of the Dems.

For me I really can't say if I'm going to bother voting. I won't vote for McCain, but by tossing Clinton to the curb, Obama has basically said 'no thanks, I don't need your vote, I can do it alone, thanks' to me, and other Hillary supporters. The Party could have forced him to do it for the good of the ticket, but they didn't. So the Party doesn't seem to need my vote either.

The fact Biden voted for the war, which was Obama's basically ONLY policy criticism of Hillary's candidacy, makes this choice of Biden only more upsetting.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and she dissed Obama and not picked him or another black candidate for VP, there would have been holy hell to pay, if not downright riots a la Rodney King. But hey, when it's the white woman and her 18M supporters being pushed out the car door onto the curb, well then hey, that's just politics....

He has insulted us to his own peril.

Posted by: Spector | August 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Vw cat- I was listing mccain's accomplishments not playing nostradamus- your predictions of war ignore that disgreement coupled with perceived weakness creates war_ you know Obama does recall Chamberlain ( hey wasn't your vw designed by Hitler?)
As far as canadian healthcare the medical offices of detroit are filled with canadians who can't get needed services @ home- that's great raise my taxes then let my former post office supervisor decide if my chemo is cost effective sounds like Animal Farm- you know vw you never find elected officials on the back of the line!

Posted by: scott | August 24, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

It is not news that McSame will use every dirty trick in the Rove playbook to try to win the election. He will do anything to avoid talking about his policies and what they mean for America. He will avoid talking about how supports Bush's policies and how he flip flopped on every major issue where he originally disagreed with Bush. The man has sold his soul and he knows that in order to win he must scare the voters into accepting him as the best of bad choices. I don't think it will work and I pray that it will not work. This country can not stand 4 more years of Bush policies. McCain needs the job to fulfill his ego but we do not need him to fulfill our destiny. As Biden said we don't need a good soldier (a kind assessment) we need a good leader. I know, I know, McCain was a POW and therefore should not ever be questioned about anything. I served in Vietnam too and avoided capture so I guess that makes me a less human?

Posted by: cdgainesville | August 24, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

It is unbelievable that Hillary feminist voters would EVER consider voting republican. When have the republicans ever done to advance womens rights. The republican party( not specific individuals)fought the Equal Rights laws,& have done nothing to enforce the EPA.Remember that the conservatives believe women should walk behind & wear burkas, at least in some circles.If the Hillaryites want 4/8 more years of bush, then stay home.The rest of the democratic party WILL remember if Obama loses because of you.IF you want to change the DC dynamics, get to work.This ain't high school.

Posted by: tlrasnic, SW Virginia | August 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

It is not news that McSame will use every dirty trick in the Rove playbook to try to win the election. He will do anything to avoid talking about his policies and what they mean for America. He will avoid talking about how supports Bush's policies and how he flip flopped on every major issue where he originally disagreed with Bush. The man has sold his soul and he knows that in order to win he must scare the voters into accepting him as the best of bad choices. I don't think it will work and I pray that it will not work. This country can not stand 4 more years of Bush policies. McCain needs the job to fulfill his ego but we do not need him to fulfill our destiny. As Biden said we don't need a good soldier (a kind assessment) we need a good leader. I know, I know, McCain was a POW and therefore should not ever be questioned about anything. I served in Vietnam too and avoided capture so I guess that makes me a less human?

Posted by: cdgainesville | August 24, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

JakeD
It's typical Orwellian republican doublespeak to promote a popular policy while covertly enabling its opposite. Example: "Clear Skies" really means to look environmentally responsible while clearing the way to dump more pollution into the sky.

If McCain supports Clinton he has the opportunity to put his money where his mouth is and place her on his ticket. There no way around it. He's either for Hillary or against her, by the standard he himself set . If John McCain doesn't put Hillary Clinton on his ticket that means he wants somebody else, because there's something about her he finds objectionable to his party's agenda, which appears to be conning us into giving corporate leaders what little they haven't already taken from the American people.

Have the courage to do what's right and join me in voting for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Charles W | August 24, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

“We Will Not Be Silenced”
Email: susanunpc@gmail.com
Thanks to several alert readers here at No Quarter, I have learned about a new documentary on Caucus Fraud that is just coming out. “We Will Not Be Silenced, ” by Gigi Gaston, came into being according to their website because:
As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. “We the people” expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case. We believe that the The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners,” etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.
The preview, all 33 minutes of it, is compelling. In essence, it is a visual companion to the work of Dr. Lynette Long at Caucus Fraud and Peniel Cronin on Primaries and Caucuses (which will appear at NQ shortly). In short, it is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.
I invite you to watch the preview to this documentary, about which the authors said this:
This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama campaign “Chicago Machine” dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of “change” from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in “We Will Not Be Silenced.”
This documentary contains powerful, important information. I urge you to spread the word however you are able. Now is the time.
To view, CLICK HERE.
My deepest thanks to all of those at “We Will Not Be Silenced” for your commitment to democracy, to the rights of Americans, all Americans, to vote. Thank you for your courage and integrity in getting this critical information out. And thank you for bringing the voices of these Americans out for us all to witness.
Go to www.noquarterusa.net for links.

Posted by: BO can't serve from Jail | August 24, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

You mean the same Romney Mccain called a "Pig"?

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FYI, McCain has decided on Romney. He could change his mind, but that's his pick.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 1:08 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Not surprising. John McCain has a long history of "using" women to further his own ambitions.

Posted by: Joyce Elaine | August 24, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

FYI, McCain has decided on Romney. He could change his mind, but that's his pick.

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Now if he doesn't pick Romney, Obama will use this type of advertisement. If he does pick romney then Obama will use the joe biden type advertisement.
Granted there is more hillary then Romney voters and I think most Romney voters will still vote for mccain over obama, I am one of those Romney supporters that will vote for Mccain.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

We need McCain. We need his leadership to insure we remain a nation of Christian values who support the sanctity of life. McCain has shown his great love for our country by the years he spent as a POW some 40 years ago. He will not let Iran, Russia, Arabs or Moslems push us around. McCain is the one!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

It seems like McCain is doing exactly what people have now come to hate about America. Just when you need to have a calm decent conversation about our problems, we here the same old same old, same old, crap!

I may not be a big time CNN, MSNBC, or CBS political talking head, but it seems to me that these silly distraction videos and manipulating talking down styles will BACKFIRE. Just as they should.

People are sick to there stomachs of petty cross party distractions.

People know they cannot expect CHANGE to come easy. Expecially when CRAP arguments take up all the medias TIME!

Posted by: VB | August 24, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign is treading on very thin ice. There is an adage that "blood is thicker than water." Those who indicated support of Hillary but were infact crossover attempts to thwart Obama's candidacy will bolt for McCain anyway. However, trying to split up the true Democrats will backfire. Such an effort may alienate his own right-wing base. Only time will tell. However, it is interesting that McCain is being given a lot of credit for what his operatives are doing. McCain comes across as incapable of plotting political strategy. He seems personally detached from his own statements and pronouncements.

Posted by: Earl C | August 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Now Hillary is an authority on Obama too? If so we should take her word that Obama is by far the best choice for President and that John McCain would be 4 more years of George Bush.

Posted by: Candy | August 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

This is just more 'gotcha' garbage from a candidate who has nothing to offer.

Many people posting here today are so bent on obtaining specifics from Obama - name something specific McCone will do (aside from carry on the Bush policies intact).

Wow I look forward to the debates.

Posted by: Susan | August 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse


Jake D wrote:

I doubt McCain will go as far as picking Hillary, but maybe another woman for VP?

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It demeans Hillary Clinton and everyone who supported her to think that she was a "token woman" who won votes for being female, and that any other woman would be the same, even a female rightwing nutjob on the McCain ticket.

Hillary Clinton was not my candidate in the primary, but she was and is a serious person of substance with specific policy views. It is a fantasy to think that plugging in some woman on the Republican ticket is related to Hillary Clinton's achievement in any way. If anything, it demeans it.

The comparison in my mind is replacing a giant like Thurgood Marshall, whose presence on the Supreme Court simply capped an already legendary career, with a nonentity like Clarence Thomas, on the idea that "they're both black guys, right?" That didn't go over too well either.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 24, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The McCain people can bring up the 3 AM phone call all they want. That doesn't worry me. I'm concerned about the 10 PM phone call coming in when 72 year old John McCain is about ready for bed. McCain admitted he's not as sharp unless he gets some rest. The guy can't even campaign through a weekend, how is he going to hold up to the tough 24/7 job he covets? I'm 63 and I know that I, and friends my age, were much more mentally acute ten years ago. Ask around if you don't believe that age takes a toll. McCain is too old to be President.

Posted by: Ceee | August 24, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

> 55% will support Obama and that number grows with every poll.

Off your meds, are you?
EVERY poll shows a *dwindling* vote for Obama

Posted by: Notan Idjit | August 24, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I can absolutely understand disappointment, but specifically about McCain and not focusing on some of Hillary's supporters:

I am disappointed that he condoned using these cheap shots. His campaign has been using Hillary's arguments, not those conjured on their own. Furthermore, what the ad didn't provide is SPECIFICALLY why should those who supported Hillary Clinton (with her stances) should support McCain with his stances after the fact. I was looking for the usual lists of policies, absent in the ad, that should serve for "positives" for some of these Clinton supporters to vote for him. Instead, they want to continue to provoke the disappointment that is already there, as a strategy for aiming to convince them to cross and support him instead. I'd take that as an insult, personally, if the tables were turned.

It is their vote, their opinions, and their right. Unless McCain makes some drastic changes in his platform, and convince me that he has sincerely been doing his homework and trying to learn more about what he intends to take charge of....I personally look forward to him losing. I look forward to it, but I stop short of saying (as though a fact) that that is how events are going to turn out, before it even happens. All I can say is, with imperfections and all, I am in for the good and not for the candidates. I will go with who I believe is more in tune with what I feel needs to happen, and who is more likely to push my agenda. I'm voting for reasons far beyond myself, and I take it very seriously. For those who support McCain, may it be not out of anger, but sincere (I do hope). All I can say is, good luck and best wishes.

To the rest, who find enough reason and intend to support Obama:

Get out in force, help get people registered. Donate if you can. Let's help get this man to the White House; we have work to do, and neglect is not the answer. It is time for a different course. Lets do it! Obama/Biden Beginning '09

My fellow Brothers and Sisters of The Faith, remain in prayer regardless of what happens.

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 24, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It is great that the McCain campaign is endorsing Hillary Clinton's opinions. We'll see what sort of 'great' things Sen. Clinton has to say about Bush and McCain!

And when this script is flipped, and the ad is of McCain attacking Romney, his VP, and Romney attacking McCain then it'll really be powerful. It is good thing that Obama has more money, because that ad is going to be a lot longer!

Posted by: Deep Blue | August 24, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Now that John McCain has expressed his desire to see Hillary on a "share" of the ticket to the "White House."
Perhaps he will select her for his own running mate. I'm sure she will accept!

Posted by: motiv8ed | August 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I know it is fun to lie and make up figures but the actual figure is
21% claim they will vote for Mccain, if that can be believed and even if true you can expect that number to shrink rather then grow.

55% will support Obama and that number grows with every poll.

The remaining 24% are undecided which means they will either not vote or will come around and vote for Obama.

As Jack Friday would say, "Just the facts"
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I’m RELIEVED that Hillary is not the VP choice.She needs to stay as far away from that imploding campaign as she can. However,the fact that Obama didn’t even VET Hillary was really stupid, churlish & childish. Despite his gaming the caucuses, the fact is MORE people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Obama - she WON THE POPULAR VOTE...& yet Obama once again snubs her and her supporters. What kind of “superior” judgement is that? Is that the type of leader who can truly walk across aisles and UNITE? Heck - he is UNABLE and UNWILLING to do what he should to actively UNITE his own PARTY…why should anyone have faith that he could suddenly unite opposing countries on the world stage? His choice to not even vet Hillary equals the moment he said her name and flipped her the bird in his speech in Raleigh NC after the ABC debate. I was in the audience when he did that and EVERYONE was talking about it DURING his speech. A SMART CANDIDATE would have gone through the motions of vetting Hillary Clinton just to show respect and win over Clinton die-hards, but not Obama. His petulance trumped better judgement. And for the several who

have posted that Hillary supporters have overwhelmingly gone over to Obama...what have you been smoking? 40% have categorically stated that they will NOT support Obama and NEWSFLASH... Obama is losing ground amongst many of his own past supporters. As far as the ageism remarks about McCain - any doubts about his tenacity and sharp mind were put to rest with the Warren forum; McCain was far superior to Obama - without a doubt.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:37 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I’m RELIEVED that Hillary is not the VP choice.She needs to stay as far away from that imploding campaign as she can. However,the fact that Obama didn’t even VET Hillary was really stupid, churlish & childish. Despite his gaming the caucuses, the fact is MORE people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Obama - she WON THE POPULAR VOTE...& yet Obama once again snubs her and her supporters. What kind of “superior” judgement is that? Is that the type of leader who can truly walk across aisles and UNITE? Heck - he is UNABLE and UNWILLING to do what he should to actively UNITE his own PARTY…why should anyone have faith that he could suddenly unite opposing countries on the world stage? His choice to not even vet Hillary equals the moment he said her name and flipped her the bird in his speech in Raleigh NC after the ABC debate. I was in the audience when he did that and EVERYONE was talking about it DURING his speech. A SMART CANDIDATE would have gone through the motions of vetting Hillary Clinton just to show respect and win over Clinton die-hards, but not Obama. His petulance trumped better judgement. And for the several who have posted that Hillary supporters have overwhelmingly gone over to Obama...what have you been smoking? 40% have categorically stated that they will NOT support Obama and NEWSFLASH... Obama is losing ground amongst many of his own past supporters. As far as the ageism remarks about McCain - any doubts about his tenacity and sharp mind were put to rest with the Warren forum; McCain was far superior to Obama - without a doubt.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

That is absolutely accurate 6 to 1. It will be interesting to see what the actual vote is after the election. I fully expect to see the vote tampered with from service men over seas. I am in Florida and a year after the 2000 election they were still finding boxes of absentee votes.

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McCain has already lost the military vote by 6-1 because of his poor voting record on veteran's affairs. He wants to tax employer provided healthcare as income, he has NO foreign policy experience AT ALL, he was against offshore drilling and abortion before he was for it, Obama has passed more bipartisan legislation than McCain with 1/8 the time in the senate. He doesn't believe in diplomacy--just bombing because that's all he knows how to do. If he won't raise taxes on the wealthy and the corporations he has to raise them on the middle class because we owe China almost a trillion dollars. His only choice left for VP for a prolife ticket is Romney, who the Christian Right don't like. What else do you want to know?

Posted by: Bjorn | August 24, 2008 12:23 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

TODD SEE ROXANNE AT 10:33!!!!!
SAYS IT ALL

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Mccain just needs someone who can whisper in his ear what day it is. It doesn't matter who Mccain picke, Cheney will still be president just as he is now. Wait, you don't think Bush is president do you? No one is that naive. Mccain will just get to sit in the chair thats all.

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The choice of Biden is in complete conflict with Obama's claim of a new and fresh approach to Washington.

Biden is a loud mouthed braggart who has a tendency to lie.

And that does make him a good fit for Obama. Obama needed an adult.

McCain does not.

Pawlenty.

Posted by: drjohn | August 24, 2008 12:19 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Scott, while you list all the wonderful things about McCain you forgot to mention all the wars he will start and the fact that it is a good bet you will be drafted as well as your offspring and other family members.
McCain has stated he wants a draft and he is more of a warmonger then even Bush or Cheney. That may explain why he has all those discredited neocons on his foreign policy staff. They see nazi's around every corner and as such, believe we need to have a war with everyone. And McCain is more than happy with that reasoning.
he also wants to give permanent tax cuts to the rich and corporations while expecting the little people to pay for those.
I don't know about you, but, I don't like paying for the easy street of billionaires and corporations, especially the oil companies.
Nor do I like finding that my own middle class world has been eroding under republican rule.
As for Health care. I suppose you don't mind that we rank 37th in the industrialzed countries for health care and the quality of it. Or that our education system ranks just as poorly.
We pay through the nose for one of the worst health care systems in the industrialized countries. One of the best is France and Canada.
Surpirsed?
We are not number one in anything having to do with quality of life. And we have fallen rapidly under the bush regime. Under McCain you can bet will keep our wonderful fall down the abyss.

Posted by: vwcat | August 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain has already lost the military vote by 6-1 because of his poor voting record on veteran's affairs. He wants to tax employer provided healthcare as income, he has NO foreign policy experience AT ALL, he was against offshore drilling and abortion before he was for it, Obama has passed more bipartisan legislation than McCain with 1/8 the time in the senate. He doesn't believe in diplomacy--just bombing because that's all he knows how to do. If he won't raise taxes on the wealthy and the corporations he has to raise them on the middle class because we owe China almost a trillion dollars. His only choice left for VP for a prolife ticket is Romney, who the Christian Right don't like. What else do you want to know?

Posted by: Bjorn | August 24, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

As far as specifics go, Obama has not presented any.

Fool Obama supporters think they know what Obama's Iraq policy is, but not one of them really knows.

Posted by: drjohn | August 24, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

The choice of Biden is in complete conflict with Obama's claim of a new and fresh approach to Washington.

Biden is a loud mouthed braggart who has a tendency to lie.

And that does make him a good fit for Obama. Obama needed an adult.

McCain does not.

Pawlenty.

Posted by: drjohn | August 24, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

When will Mr. McCain put forward an idea that is not a teardown?

We have big financial issues here.
the dollar,
the deficit,
Oil money to our enemies
unemplyment
Housing bubble

How can he run a campaign that is only about bashing Obama?

Posted by: Jeffrey Breooks | August 24, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Charles W:

Perhaps you missed McCain coming to Hillary's defense when Obama and the press were trying to force her out before the last primary voted? Even Bill Clinton thought it would have been better for two candidates who loved America running for President.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's husband and surrogates and supporters assumed that she wanted to be veep and felt they could just go past her and speak for her without considering what Hillary herself wanted.
so, it's not surprising that the republicans would also think they know what Hillary wanted without finding out from her.
No one has thought that maybe Hillary told Obama early on that she did not want to be veep.
Maybe Hillary wants to work on Health Care as that is her passion.
It amazes me that all these people feel they can speak for Hillary and assume to know what she wants and have all this faux outrage for her, but, never have bothered to find out if this is even what Hillary wanted.
I know that Hillary wants to work on health care and that is what she indicated early one.
I have never head her personally ever say she wanted to be veep.
that was people like Bill, Bob johnson, lanie Davis, Carville, ect. All of them spoke for her but, she never mentioned if that was even what she wanted.

Posted by: vwcat | August 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Todd- yes I believe JD is correct, Operation Chaos was an attempt to give McCain more lead time as the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, while Democrats fought it out...if Hillary was leading, Limbaugh would have asked Republicans in states allowing cross over voting to vote for Obama...nothing personal about it, just political tactics that the Democrats would have gladly duplicated given the opportunity...

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Fairfax Voter:

I doubt McCain will go as far as picking Hillary, but maybe another woman for VP?

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow! McCain has a newfound appreciation of Senator Clinton. What's great about this is he still has the opportunity to make history by putting her on HIS TICKET! If he doesn't he'll prove he just being insicere and playing dirty politics as usual. Republicans will do anything to divide us so they can finish taking everything we have through corporate tyrranny.

Posted by: Charles W | August 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Bjorn- Mccain offers a successful bipartisan legislative record that put America ahead of his party's concerns- collaborating with Democratic senators to pass reform to get our country moving...he offers 25 years of foreign policy experience at the top of the ticket....Putin/Medvedev won't be meeting with Biden, should Obama win but with Obama- I'll take McCain....he also won't give us low quality socialized medicine where you have to depend on a civil service gate keeper to qualify for a kidney transplant....hope you're not "too old" for one...McCain will work within the current system to cut cost and provide tax rebates to make it more affordable...Mccain will cause speculators to immediately cut gas prices by beginning the long process of drilling for more domestic oil....anyone who thinks you actually need flowing oil to lower prices doesn't understand specultive pricing...he will support stem cell research, much to the dismay of the far right wing of his party....he will choose judges who do not legislate from the bench....

Posted by: Scott | August 24, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how it helps solidify and energize the Republican base to heap praise on a Clinton. But I will try...

Go Hillary, they will shout, as they man the barricades for the Republican ticket, take off much-needed family and leisure time to go door to door in Hillary Clinton's pro-choice, progressive, universal health-care cause. Our hearts are with the Clintons! We're donating more time and money! We couldn't elect Mike Huckabee but at least we have Hillary Clinton's cause to support, and a candidate who has wrapped himself all around it!

Hmmm... No, I don't see it. I clearly don't have what it takes to be a political consultant.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | August 24, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Todd:

As I understand Operation CHAOS, operatives were simply trying to keep the nomination close and force a floor fight.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

lola-

That site says nothing about McCain. How do you defend him for voting against every bill that would benefit veterans?

Posted by: Jerry | August 24, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Look around this site to see why you should consider your options for VOTING AGAINST Obama-Bin-Biden:

http://dontbeagooddemocrat.com/000011.html

Posted by: Lola | August 24, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I'll be VERY HAPPY in 148 DAYS ... when "W"orst and his goons are gone...

"W"orst (bush)
"M"ore (mccain)
"O"ptimism (obama)

Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse


Mccain offers this:

John Mccains dream

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXprPCpyVb8&feature=related

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Tell me what McCain is offering. Maybe I'll convert.

Posted by: Bjorn | August 24, 2008 11:45 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Wheather you support John Mccain or Obama you must watch this video. It is important you be an informent voter.
I see a lot on links on here and I never look at them myself because most are just silly attacks from one side or another. But sit down and watch this. It may give you pause to think.

Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/02/17/in-1992-pows-accused-mccain-of-collaborating-with-vietnamese/

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Wow, perhaps Biden thinks Obama is the first "clean" Afrikan-American to run for president:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4441579238185842381&ei=VYGxSLmEOKfyqwOdi7jBDA&q=biden+is+a+racist&vt=lf

And Obama supporters are calling Hillary's voters racist?

Double Standard

Posted by: Jones | August 24, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Tell me what McCain is offering. Maybe I'll convert.

Posted by: Bjorn | August 24, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Santorum would be an excellent choice for McCain's VP. The country would just love a guy who takes his wife's miscarried fetus and passes it around the living room, forcing his young children to look at and touch it and be photographed with it. He is one sick puppy!

Posted by: Todd | August 24, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Bjorn and jerry
No experience and no change wow what a combo
Obama backs corn ethanol over sugar cane to support his illinois millionare farmers while sugar cane ethanol is 8 times more efficient at preventing global warming and we all pay 5 dollars a box for cereal then he picks Biden of 3 dozen years in the Senate over Tim Kaine and calks it "change"
No change would be cane and Kaine
This is old school just no experience
I'll take old school WITH top of the ticket exoerience thanks

Posted by: scott | August 24, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

It's looking like the Libs are knocking McCain's ad, it must be working.....

BTW, I thought it would have been a great idea if Obama had selected Santorum as his VP selection.

Posted by: sugarosie | August 24, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Bin Biden likes to make fun of Indian people to their face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8q9yaf9u4

Posted by: Jones | August 24, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Let me clarify--

Rush Limbaugh and his listeners WANTED Hillary to be the nominee because she was views as being easy to defeat considering her background. The republicans are the majority of people that are mad that she's not the nominee, not the democrats.

Posted by: Todd | August 24, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Jake D

There are angry democrats, but many of those voters were Rush Limbaugh operatives. The majority of people who backed Hillary have united behind Obama now and there are more to come. The margin of Obama's win will be such that we can lose some of those democrats because the newly registered voters will more than offset the 'angry' pro-Hillary voters. Many of those people who voted for Hillary were registered as republicans and were just trying to skew the numbers her way because the right viewed her as the candidate who was the easiest to beat. You don't think Rush Limbaugh was advocating for her because he actually wanted her to be the nominee do you? The republican's wanted her because she'd guarantee a republican win in November. Now the right is fumbling and bumbling and don't know what to do. All their attacks on Obama have failed.

Posted by: Todd | August 24, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

With Biden now on the ticket, McCain is officially screwed. There is no one he can pick to lift him to presidential status. Pawlenty's too young and is a social liberal and if he chooses Romney, the
Bible Belt will stay home because they don't want a Mormon in office. Rush Limbaugh is pressuring McCain to pick Santorum who is a pro-lifer but got trounced in his last election. McCain may get a small bounce after the republican convention, but he will get killed in the debates because he has a hard time talking in front of a crowd and he's not good with facts and figures.

Posted by: Bjorn | August 24, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Todd:

You really think there are ZERO angry Democrats?!

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

The republicans are upset because Hillary isn't on the ticket. They wanted her to be the candidate because she was viewed as the easiest one to defeat, which was true. Their attack plan was to pull out Monica, Whitewater, Travelgate and pummell the Clinton's. With Obama, they have a very thin negative campaign going that most smart people can see right through. The republicans are looking like the desperate fools that they are. They're fighting dirty because they have no accomplishments to run on.

Posted by: Jerry T | August 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

McCain and the Clintons are actually a pretty good political match: Both are firmly rooted in the politics of the past: the 60's for Clintons, 1950's for McCain. Former reformer Mccain is now deep in the mud pit of Republican lobbyists and sleaze, for the Clintons, the corruption and cynicism is well documented. Either would do or say anything for a vote as we have seen this year. McCain, Hillary is the perfect vice president pick for you.

Posted by: Jason | August 24, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Hillary got more votes than Obama.

Obama was SEElected and not EElected.

Imagine that.

Posted by: drjohn | August 24, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Caroline Kennedy "declined" to answer specifics such as whether Hillary was ever under serious consideration for Obama's VP.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

You can tell by the messages here that the republicans are at the end of their rope. They're blogging pretending to be angry democrats when in reality they know McCain doesn't stand a chance now that Biden is on the ticket. All of McCain's ads have been negative, he offers the citizenry NOTHING! The latest polling figures show Obama up by 8 points and now he's closing in on the states that look to close. At this point the republicans can take a nap for the next eight years.

Posted by: Todd | August 24, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

There is a risk here for McCain. Sure, many Hillary voters are angry, but if McCain doesn't offer them something tangible -- like, say, a female or pro-choice running mate -- or appears unduly exploitative, he could alienate them too. And since many conservative Republicans (very much including women) don't want a female, let alone a pro-choicer, on the GOP ticket, that's a real possibility.

Posted by: Seth Halpern | August 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Good for you, Roxanne.

I'd like to have you vote for McCain, but you are principled.

Good for you.

Posted by: drjohn | August 24, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Bush-Cheney: US flag

Kerry-Edwards: US flag

Obama-Biden: Flag of Barack America.

'nuff said.

Posted by: drjohn | August 24, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

McCain doesn't need to rile up HRC

supporters. We're already riled up. Barry

made a BIG mistake.

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 24, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone else watch Meet the Press?

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Good points, Colin.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Roxanne:

I understand your frustration. I am registered Independent too. But, not voting isn't the answer. If you won't vote for McCain, how about Alan Keyes in the American Independent Party? Or, Cynthia McKinney in the Green Party?

scott:

Oh, "satire"? I get it now : )

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

This idea that "well, at least our vice-presidential pick is qualified" won't wash. People want the guy at the top of the ticket to be qualified also. Obama is the most unqualified, unaccomplished and inexperienced nominee EVER from either party. Biden can't help that, neither can Clinton. I would have voted for Hillary but Obama is just too much of an empty suit to stomach. I'll take my chances with McCain and a Dem congress.

Posted by: Colin | August 24, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

By this logic, Obama should run an ad demanding that Huckabee should be McCain's VP. Why is McCain dissing evangelicals?

The ad simply demonstrates that McCain would rather play "nya, nya" high school political games than explain his 98% support of the Bush Crime Family.

Posted by: thebob.bob | August 24, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Aced ap cakc Jake D- ever study JP Satre? Eh? ObamaKs audacity is to choose the 4th longest tenured senator and still use the change word just like "the emperor's new clothes"

Posted by: scott | August 24, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

UWBizKid:

May I suggest, if you get exit polled on election day, don't reveal you were a Hillary supporter. That could be used to damage her chances for 2012.

Everyone else telling Clinton supporters to "STFU", that they are "bitter" etc.:

Please PLEASE keep it up.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

McCain Supporters Don't Google:
Songbird-McCain

Your was hero won't remain your
war "hero."

Posted by: Kirk Muse | August 24, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I am a Black woman and I am not voting for Obama. It seems like everyone else have rights in the Democratic party than a woman who steps up and says she wants to be our president. Then they set about demonising her and those who support her.

Well I have a problem with the backroom deals within the DNC that told her in no uncertain manner, that she dare not live the dream.

I swear, I will not vote for another male Democrat ever again! I am now an Independent.

And you Obamaniacs could eat dirt. You continue to be mean and nasty and you continue to show me reasons why I should wipe that smugness off your faces and Obama's in November. Well good for you, that will really convince him to vote for him!

I am not voting for Obama. I am staying home, sitting on my hands on elections day, and yes, I know all the reasons why I should not do that, but just this once, this one is for woman's rights.

Posted by: Roxanne | August 24, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

trace1:

Did you also think that abolitionists in the North left to the next generation(s) a worse country after the Civil War? Abortion is KILLING a generation of Americans.

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Obamites, why are you all SO angry this morning? Hillary isn't on the ticket with your chosen One, you should all be floating on air. Here's a secret: Clinton supporters are just as happy that she isn't, as now we don't have to worry about her going down with him in Nov. A peaceful medium as been found; rejoice!

Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | August 24, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

scott:

Biden has been in Washington LONGER than McCain and Hillary combined! Obama is no longer running on "change" by picking Biden. Perhaps you didn't get the memo ( or 3 AM text message : )

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

VOTE OBAMA!!
WE DON'T WANT CAPITALISM AND DEMOCRACY ANYMORE!!
Those are old and outdated concepts.
We want results! We want a proven system that works!!
WE WANT COMMUNISM!!!!!

Posted by: Mr.Liberal | August 24, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if McCain will choose a woman VP? Maybe even ask Hillary herself?

Posted by: JakeD | August 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

No it's because hillary represents old washington and biden represents change:
The seven houses of joe biden
1 indian 7 elevens
2 iowa comment on african americans ruining dc schools
3 almost thrown out of law shool for plagiarism
4 claimed to graduate top of his class was bottom
5 plagiarized campaign speech in88
6 called ObamaKs hygeine "storybook"
7 claimed it would be an honor to "run with or against John Mccain"

Yes "storybook" is a good word

Posted by: scott | August 24, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

McCain has to live in the sewer because he doesn't have anything to offer. Nothing, he's empty. He's an old man who rode a military career rife with screw-ups into politics and spent his career boozing and chasing women. Now he has nothing to offer but slurs and slander.
And please trolls like MrLiberal, go back under your bridge, or go to hell, or just go.

Posted by: Electric Bill | August 24, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Women will send a message to Democrats and vote Republican. We've now know where the real glass ceiling is.

Women for McCain 08

Posted by: targa47 | August 24, 2008 7:55 AM

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What is your basis for this. Women overwhelmingly support Obama. Get a clue.
Republicans are the glass ceiling for every hard working American.

Posted by: Women for Obama | August 24, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrLiberal | August 24, 2008 9:50 AM
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You are no liberal so drop dead whiny creep.

Posted by: MrConservative | August 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden 08

Michael,
At the minimun your article should have included Hillary Clinton's response. Her response is more more significant than McCains.


Senator Hillary Clinton:

In naming my colleague and friend Sen. Joe Biden to be the Vice Presidential nominee, Sen. Obama has continued in the best traditions for the Vice Presidency by selecting an exceptionally strong, experienced leader and devoted public servant. Sen. Biden will be a purposeful and dynamic Vice President who will help Senator Obama both win the Presidency and govern this great country.Governor Tim Kaine:

I am very excited that Sen. Obama has selected Senator Biden to be his running mate. Sen. Biden is a tremendous leader and a great complement to Sen. Obama and his candidacy. He has worked as a committed public servant, has a proven track record, and understands the complex challenges facing our nation. The Obama-Biden ticket provides the United States with a new and meaningful dialogue with world leaders and will improve America's standing with our allies and the global community.Governor Kathleen Sebelius:

I’m delighted Senator Obama has chosen Joe Biden as his running mate. His extensive experience dealing with foreign policy issues are an asset in these complicated times. He will be a great partner for Barack Obama in bringing about the change so desperately needed in our country, and restoring to America our sense of optimism and hope for a brighter future. I am proud to support this incredible team.

and from,

Senator Chris Dodd:

Jackie and I congratulate our dear friend, Joe Biden, who will make an excellent running mate for Barack Obama, and more importantly a great Vice President. I have known Joe for almost 30 years and I've had the privilege of sitting next to him on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and sharing the campaign trail both with him and Barack. I know this is a ticket that can win in November.

With rising gas prices, increasing health care and education costs, a damaged reputation across the world, and a struggling economy at home, the American people are ready for change. Barack Obama and Joe Biden represent that change. They will bring new leadership to the White House that will get our economy moving again, finally end the war in Iraq and our bring our troops home, ensure that all Americans have access to affordable health care, and end our dependence on foreign oil.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gG5s3L

Note Caroline Kennedy on Meet the Press this morning.

Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | August 24, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

awwwww.. I feel so sorry for the poor rethugs. They are so dissapointed that Hillary didnt win the primary and now isnt the Veep selection. They were so looking forward to continuing their vicious partisan attacks on her.

Now they are running ads saying how could the Dems overlook her? Are you kidding me?

These are the same people that have time and time again tried to crucify the clintons.. and failed by the way.

Why cant McCain run on the issues? Oh... he cant because his policies are the same as Bush's. Failing ones.

No more Bush/ Cheney/ McSame.

Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: Realamerican2 | August 24, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Well as a liberal, I've done my part.
Follow in my footsteps and we'll see the elegant and wonderful Mr. Obama as our next president.
1. Build a shrine (from plywood or plaster), to our master and president Mr. Obama. Place his beautiful face, (a photo not his real face), on the shrine, and place a black candle at each end.
2. Every night before going to bed, kneel at the holy shrine and "praise" Obama using your spiritual energies. Talk to him as if he were there with you. Tell him how cute his smile is and how his eyes twinkle with the hope of throwing off the shackles that bind us into American slavery.
3. Leave a plate of Obama's favorite food (shrimp, chicken, or whatever), on the shrine for the spirit of Obama to be nourished.
4. When election day arrives, go vote for Obama. Then, come home, get your "fake" I.D. and go vote for Obama a saecond time. Do this until the neo-cons catch you.
5. Never forget that our savior and the one we owe it all to, (Obama), should be the foundation of your life. Send him at least 1/3 of your paycheck to help pay overwhelming expenses at the Obama household.
And last but certainly not least,write the Obama's a personal letter thanking them for being our guiding light, our strength, and our holy savior.

Posted by: MrLiberal | August 24, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

McCain is mad because they already had some slime ads made up if Hillary was chosen for the VP. McCain is an old
man with a mental problem. If he is elected as president again I say.
God Help My Grandchildren.

Posted by: westexacan | August 24, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I am so glad he didnt chose HillBill. He would have to watch is back everyday if she were his VP. No doubt she would try to knock him off.
Biden is a great choice.
As for the bitter women, they'll get over it. It's not younger women who are upset about Hillary not getting the nomination of VP slot; it's that over 50 crowd of women who never accomplished anything significant in their own lives and are living vicariously through Senator Clinton.
So they threaten to vote for McCain knowing full well they are the ones most in need of a universal health care plan that will help keep them alive when they get breast or uterine cancer.
I think Americans got what they deserved when the chose Bush in 2004. High gas prices, faltering economy, unending war in Iraq...and they will receive( and deserve) the same by electing John McCain over Barack Obama.

Posted by: Mimi | August 24, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Henry:

What are you Obama supporters afraid of? The truth?

I will do my best to get the truth out about Obama.

The MSM didn't tell the whole story leading up to the War in Iraq and look where that got us?

I don't want the MSM to report only their own agenda. This time the MSM agenda is to elect Obama as President.

The lawsuit is legit and the Judge said the lawsuit could move forward.

Instead of hiding your head in the sand, go to the website I posted and read the lawsuit for yourself.

As I said before, time will tell.

Posted by: Janet8 | August 24, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Minister Obam will prevail. Minister Obama encourages the support of those who have yet to embrace "Many Salaries for One Cause".
Wealth will be distributed on a basis of need as determined by Minister Obama and the Peoples Ecomonic Comittee chaired by Teacher Ayer.
The racist practice of personal wealth will be eradicated by 2010 so that all may benefit from the labors of the privleged.
Minister Obama will patiently and wisely allow dissention and doubt to be part of the New Society. As the Peoples Plan grows and prosper, those who once doubted will embrace the ways of Our New Society.
Those of greater wealth such as the Clinton's, Reids, McCains and Gores will gladly share among the people. Wealth Leader Rezko will fairly apportion the excess as approved by Minister Obama.
Denver is the Dawn of a New Age for our land!

Posted by: Joe M. Omma | August 24, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Janet8 why don't you do the world a favor by crawling into a very dark place and never come back out? What a load of crock.

Posted by: Henry | August 24, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Just when I thought that my poor GOP could get no worse than it had under George, here comes McCain spending all his time and money on insane topics. What good Republicans did in the old days was to address the issues facing our country and stating what their solutions were regarding these issues. McCain cannot seem to get on target. Is it because the problems facing our county are too difficult for him to handle and so he thus reverts to what kids do in elementary school? Calling the other kids names. Did I support the Republican Party for decades only to end up here? Please, John, don't embarrass us any more than you already have!

Posted by: formerrepublican | August 24, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is clearly outsmarting Obama at this point. The GOP has come out with two effective ads attacking Obama's strength - his celebrity status. One of these ads uses subliminal messages to the religious "left-behind" followers. It's cloaked within a facade of humor. The GOP then followed with an ad showing how Biden prefers to run on McCain's ticket, not Obama's. The latter would need, in Biden's own words, "on-the-job-training." Today the GOP came out with a fourth ad attacking Obama's decision to "diss" Hillary, even though she virtually split the votes in the primary race, because she questioned his experience, i.e. "the truth hurts." The GOP is just getting started, mind you. There will be more ads to come, and they will be even smarter and much more negative. I have yet to see an effective ad by Obama, who is outspending McCain 4 to 1.

Posted by: howdy999 | August 24, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Why would anyone believe anything coming out McCains or the Republicans mouths. Mccain has shown he will lie, distort, and say anything to win the election. McCains lies and distortion will ruin what is left of the little honor he has left.

Posted by: Elitist | August 24, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

You Clinton Dead Enders are just plain scary. Get over it, you be a damn fool to vote Republican.

Posted by: James From Cali | August 24, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I recall Democrats saying that George W. Bush did not have enough foreign policy experience in 2000 and that he wasn't qualified to be president. This is true and I wish the Supreme Court never appointed him to the highest office in the land. Sadly, Barack Obama is even less qualified than George W. Bush or even Dan Quayle for that matter. This was a really stupid choice and I hope John McCain defeats Barack Obama in a landslide to teach these foolish Democrats a lesson. Go Hillary 2012.

Posted by: Veronica | August 24, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I was prepared to pass up voting for President . Biden changed my attitude . I am voting Dem. because we now have what Biden for the security of America and Americans. Obama knew he was not capable of handling world sits. - Change was a farse. Biden will give the USA the strength and cut out the garbage of a no nothing President. I, as many voters are voting for BIDEN AND REALLY NOT FOR OBAMA. oBOAMA IS LIKE THE FRONT MAN AT A CIRCUS. BIDEN WILL LEAD THIS COUNTRY BACK TO WHERE WE BELONG BEFORE GWB'S RUINATION AND GREED! AUG. 23, 2008 WAS ONE OF THE BEST DAYS FOR THE LIVES AND WELFARE OF AMERICANS. MC CAIN CAN TRY TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS -HE IS A PIDDLING NON ENTITY AND SHOULD GIVE IT UP. HE IS A LOOSER AND WONT FALL DOWN FOR THE COUNT!

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | August 24, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm re-posting the following because the public has the right to know what's going on:

In Philadelphia, PA, on Friday, Aug 22, 2008, Philip J. Berg, Esq., filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama, seeking a restraining order, from continuing his candidacy for the US Presidency, until he can prove he is a natural American citizen.

I read the lawsuit. It states that an investigation revealed that when Obama visited Pakistan in 1981, at age 20, Obama used an Indonesian passport. Also, that the Birth Certificate on Obama's website is a forgery. Three independent document forensic experts have performed extensive tests. The birth certificate on Obama's website is that of his sister's.

The lawsuit can be viewed at:

http://obamacrimes.com/attachments/001_ObamaMemSupportTRO082108.pdf

Philip J. Berg, Esq., is a Philadelphia lawyer, former Deputy Attorney General of PA, former candidate for Governor and US Senate in the Democratic primaries, former County Chair for the Democratic Party, and a former member of the Democratic State Committee.

The judge must think there is sufficient evidence presented by the Plaintiff, because the judge took the case Friday. It was NOT dismissed.

I haven't seen or heard mention of this lawsuit in the MSM, either in print, TV or an MSM website. I googled and no MSM newspaper is carrying it, not even the Philly ones. It's in the blogsphere and it was posted in a CBS Sports community blog. I received an email of its press release. What gives?

And another thing, remember earlier this year when the US State Dept Passport Office computer system was breached and someone got into Obama's file. The culprit was affiliated with Obama's campaign. Do you remember that?

Only time will tell.

Posted by: Janet8 | August 24, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Wow, McCain simply knows where to hit, just like a boxer. By the way, I voted Clinton and might vote for Mr McCain now. Obama went further negative on the 3AM VP txt announcement, wow, was that a swipe/answer to Clinton for running that 3AM ad? Obama just slapped Clinton backers in the face for that. Next, boxing, I am waiting for the announcement of Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar de la Hoya fight, hope it comes soon.

Posted by: Mazhar | August 24, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats are anything but united it appears from all the above comments. Just like the Republicans they are fractured. The struggle now will be to see if they can unite around a guy who has done nothing but play back room politics most of his career. The Daily Gallup http://www.gallup.com/tag/Gallup%2BDaily.aspx shows a dead heat. Of course this was done before the announcement of Biden as his running mate. The real-time poll at http://www.bop-o-rama.com shows there really may be a "Hillary Effect." Obama's number broke 600,000 while McCain's 315,000 clearly shows Team Obama is not yet out in force. Will the Democrats unite? We will see in Denver.

Posted by: acarponzo | August 24, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Democrats were supposed to win the 2008 election is a landslide similar to 1932 and 1992 but instead will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. There was just too much "crying racism" by the Obama campaign, which was so easy to do in the Democratic primary, but that kind of "White guilt" tactic doesn't work in the general election. Barack Obama has made history as the first African-American nominee for a major party and that's it.

Posted by: Ricky | August 24, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Hillary is garbage | August 24, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Women will send a message to Democrats and vote Republican. We've now know where the real glass ceiling is.

Women for McCain 08

Posted by: targa47 | August 24, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a great recruiting tool for the beleagured Republican Party, becasue his arrogant campaign is acting like he won the Democratic nomination is some sort of landslide. I'm am so turned off the the Democratic party for the way they treated Hillary Clinton, I will vote Republican all the way down the ticket. I will turn my back on the party and treat their pathetic nominee just the same way Hillary was treated. I may actually switch my party affiliation. Thanks GOP for treating Hillary Clinton like the qualified and amazing women she is!

Posted by: Veronica | August 24, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

The Clinton days are done, we cannot allow the GOP to use the same tactics as usual. I supported Hillary but she lost fair and square. Obama does not owe her the VP. Now we have our Ticket, we need to focus of defeating Bush/McCain. That is the true deal with the devil that we must vanquish. Do not let the politics of fear and hate that the GOP has relied upon for so many years continue to let us make bad decisions as a nation. Granted McCain is a decent man but his politics and allegiance to the Traitor Bush is way off course. Bush just wants to do like Putin and place a pasty in his old job.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | August 24, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm sick of all these Obamaphilicas bashing Hillary Clinton when she's been gracious and helpful to the inexperienced Illinois Senator. That is stupid politics because the "Hillary Clinton Democrats" will decide who the 44th President Of The United States is, not the left-wing radical fringe of the Democratic Party. That whole thing about Obama not even vetting Hillary Clinton was the last straw for me... I'm voting for John McCain.

Posted by: Veronica | August 24, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

"that's why Congress is so broadly despised. The names change over the years..." Do they? Biden has been 'serving' for 38 years.

Posted by: Buck Cronkite | August 24, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

McCain has proven himself to be a scumbag....Game / Set / Match

Posted by: Jim | August 24, 2008 7:05 AM | Report abuse

I don't usually "shout" in capital letters, but I will for this: REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO USE FEDERAL FUNDING TO LIMIT ACCESS IN THIS COUNTRY TO CONTRACEPTION, AS THEY HAVE DONE OVERSEAS. From the Wall Street Journal and Houston Chronicle: Institutions and individuals opposed to contraception and abortion need not refer patients to other providers, The rule, which does not require congressional approval, would allow health care workers who object to abortion/contraception on moral or religious grounds to refuse to counsel women on their birth control options or supply contraceptives. It would forbid more than half a million health agencies nationwide that receive federal funds from requiring employees to provide such services. Pharmacists could use the rule as a justification for refusing to fill birth control prescriptions, and insurance companies could cite it as a basis for declining to cover the costs.

This is very, very frightening stuff. Any woman who votes Republican because Hillary did not win the nomination will be responsible for letting down the next generation of women. Period. It will be the first time in America's history that women did not leave a better future for the girls who were coming behind them. See: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/5935532.html

Posted by: trace1 | August 24, 2008 7:00 AM | Report abuse

YA WHAT TIL THE STORY HIT THE NEWS ABOUT TED STEVENS IN DICK CHENEY FBI ON THIS ITS ABOUT A PIPE LINE WITH OIL RUNNING THREW ALASKA OIL BRIBS IN LOTS MONET INVOLVE THIS STORY POST ON THE HUFFINGTON POST IF AMERICA WANNA READ CHENEY FINALLY GOING DOWN WAIT TELL THE AD ABOUT BUSH, ROMNEY AND OTHER REPUBLICANS AD COME TALK ABOUT WHY MCCAIN SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT, ANOTHER AD ABOUT BRINGING BACK THE DRAFT, ANOTHER AD MCCAIN CAUGHT SAYING WE NEVER GONNA SEND OUR TROOPS TO FIGHT OVER OIL O YA ITS COMMING AN IT HAVE SUBSTANCE. THIS MESSAGE PROVE BY PUMA NOW VOTING FOR OBAMA MCCAIN AINT GOING TO KNOW WHAT HIT HIM.

Posted by: keesa22 | August 24, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

MCCain has been much much more respectful to Hillary than Obama or his cult followers through out this campaign.That said,dont try to minimize the protests from true democrats as republican tactic.You will find out in November.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

DEATH TO THE GOP!

Posted by: pj451 | August 24, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

I love William Ayers ,Louis Farrakhan and Pastor Wright. They are right White people are the problem. I do not know why with me supporting all these people that they would not vote for me.
I only been friend with Rev Wright for twenty years, you heard how he talks about the people of America why would they not vote for me. You know Louis Farrakhan views of people. My friendship with William Ayers leader of a group that hated the United Staes that does not matter.
I need more of your money and all the older people votes.
Joe Biden only took money from the people in Mississippi just ask his son. O I ma sorry he has gotten money from many many lawyers.
I got my million dollar house from a friend :)

Posted by: Barack Obama | August 24, 2008 6:19 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

....SO WHERE IS THE MESSAGE I POSTED???

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

....SO WHERE IS THE MESSAGE I POSTED???

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

....SO WHERE IS THE MESSAGE I POSTED???

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

....SO WHERE IS THE MESSAGE I POSTED???

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I'LL NEVER WASTE MY TIME ON THIS WEB SITE EVER AGAIN.....I WRITE A SET OF COMMENTS...AND THEY DON'T GET POSTED...A TRUE WASTE OF ONES TIME.

Posted by: PETER IGNAGNI | August 24, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

McCain is not the person we need leading this country. He comes across as a rich weak old man who would keep things just as they are because it would be easier for him.

If this is how he appears to people in this country, how do you think he looks to people in other countries? A country is viewed by it's leaders, and do we really want other countries thinking us like McCain?

Those of you who would vote for McCain because Hillary did not get in are scaring me. Do you not see how bad our economy is suffering under the exsisting leadership? We must at least give Obama and Biden the chance to change it. McCain won't do it. That much is a sure bet.

Posted by: Kathy Libbey | August 24, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

John McCain's military record has been undisputed by everyone in this presidential race, regardless of party. The fact is that John McCain's record SINCE he was in the military has been abominable and if he is not part of the proximal cause for rampant oil price speculation and the most recent mortgage 'meltdown', he was still involved as one of the infamous Keating Five. The political pundits beat the drum of questioning how Obama plans to change anything in this country. I don't really care as much as having a president that can obey as well as enforce the laws of this country. Most of us have our earnings decimated by involuntary taxation and then have to adhere to the laws to which political officials appear to be immune.

There is a horrific double standard in this country, but it's really the divide between us and those we elect to public office. They legally work for us, but they just protect each other and that's why Congress is so broadly despised. The names change over the years, but the system is still broken and it exists to support itself, not us. The archaic and obsolete Electoral College stands as a monument to the contempt that government has toward it's governed. Voters don't elect the president, they only elect members of the Electoral College...why?

Posted by: sarahcatt | August 24, 2008 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious!!!

I saw this poster's comment on another website and thought I would repost it for everyone here:


"Why is this Republican voting for Barack Obama?
Because I do not trust John McCain, he terrifies me!
Do you remember - when John McCain publicly called his wife a c*nt?
Do you remember - when he called a young person in NH a JERK and told him that he would send him to Iraq?
Do you remember - when he shouted F--- you! at Texas Sen. John Cornyn last year?
Do you remember - when he said Only an a------ would put together a budget like this, to the former Budget Committee chairman, Sen. Pete Domenici, in 1999?
Do you remember - him saying I'm calling you a f------ jerk! to Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley?
I do...
That is why I do not want this man's finger on the nuclear button."

Just an example of the frustrations other fellow republicans are feeling!

Vote wisely this year.

Posted by: kiwiana | August 24, 2008 5:02 AM | Report abuse

Hey, tomabrahams. Nobody's going to waste their time on your silly videos. Got any original thoughts of your own?

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 24, 2008 4:44 AM | Report abuse

watch an unedited 4 minute interview with obama:

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/08/obama-uncut-1.html

Posted by: tomabrahams | August 24, 2008 4:38 AM | Report abuse

You vengeance-obsessed Hillary people care more about gratifying your own pathological vanity than you do about what’s best for our country. You’re no better than she is. You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 24, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

Quote:
McCain is pro-life. Does he thinks he is better than God? As far as I know when God placed Adam and Eve at the Garden, he also placed some trees and told them, you can eat out of all of these,but don't touch this one, because you surely will die. Guess what? He gave them a choice!!!!And that choice was so sacred to him, that up to now, he still respects it. Who are we or who is McCain to tell anyone what to do, imposing laws by man? There is only one God and he and only him will be my judge!!Thank God I'm been judge by God and not by men!!!
End Quote:

Wow quoting a twisted version of the bible on this are we. Did you forget the 10 commandments, thou shalt not kill.

How about the immaculate conception, whereby the angel touch Mary and behold she felt life inside her womb, not something that may be alive some day if mommy don't choose not to have it, it was life inside from the point of conception.

You know those butterflies that upset your stomach and make you reach for that pregnancy test in disbelief? That's life and too many people take the law over god because some supreme court idiots decided they were gods.

Don't quote the bible out of context please baby killing is bad enough!!!

Andy

Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 24, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

The great tragedy here is that when I went through the last two election cycles I was really jazzed up about the Democratic Candidates. At the beginning of this one I was equally jazzed up about a serious woman candidate with the right type of credentials not to mention intelligence. She is actually the only qualified candidate, but that doesn't seem to matter to the ignorant.

Enter Oprah! Like Michael Moore she threw her two cents in or millions upon millions of dollars and a lot of do nothing Senators and disaffected congressmen like Tom Daschel who can't even get elected in his own state. He had to fish around for someone to hook onto to try to get back to Washington DC. So much for outside the beltway concept. Then add to that Obama who has DONE NOTHING FOR ANYONE BUT HIMSELF.

So the Democrats know they have a huge problem on their hands because that number, 25% of Hillary Clinton supporters, are what Barack Obama would need to win this election. Once again they really messed things up by letting the far left racists take control of the party. And as I have popped into these comment sites I know the Obama people just don't get it. HE LOST! And he will lose again thanks to us!

This should be a run away election for the Democrats and women all over the country, like myself are saying, take a hike. We have been solid Democrats, gotten the coffee, donuts, organized. Now the younger women can take their subordinate role. It's frankly time for another party that is for equal rights not different rights for women.

So in the November election, when Obama, like Kerry go down the Democrats will still try to pin the blame on Hillary when in fact it is Obama himself that is arrogant and self-important to the point of being lulled into believing HE could actually be the next President. Not for this women who thinks he stinks to the rafters.

No we aren't the newbies but we have plenty of voting years ahead of us and the others can stuff it when the have to eat the election like a dog eating his own vomit. This is the most putrid group of people that call themselves Democrats I've ever witnessed. It reasons why my Uncle a life log Democrat gave up on the party before his death after serving in office for 4 terms. What a joke they have become.

McCain '08
Hillary '12

Posted by: UWBizKid | August 24, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse

If the attacks and exchanges hurt Barrack feeling he surely would have passed Biden as well as not only did Biden say much of the same but he also spoke highly of John McCain's experience, leadership, and friendship. That is until he became the VP pick.

Something far more sinister is at work here and Clinton's female voter base is all too familiar with it.

The real slight is not the issues for which both attacked Obama, it is the sex of the attacker. See taking on either of the two as a running mate bolsters Obama's attempt at portraying a mender of fences and builder of bridges bringing a nation divided together. Still he took the MAN that has dropped many racial remarks over the WOMAN with as much real world experience and a stronger backing across the board.

See, Obama's campaign from the word go has said one of the biggest fights they will face in the election is racism in rich white America. One of the biggest issues for Clinton was Gender Bias within her own party and across the nation and around the world. To select a woman VP would mean two negatives they would have to battle.

See it isn't the views, or the attacks that have Biden on the ticket and Hillary sitting at home, it is a Man viewing the woman as holding him back not pushing him forward and lifting him up. Sex decided the issue as Biden has less national support, comes from a lock in blue state with a small electoral impact of 3 compared to the large impact of New York, he has a loose mouth and is often caught making off color remarks about race, and he chose him over her.

Think about it.
Andy Zeus Anderson

Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 24, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

Who played the race card? Are "hard working white americans" somehow imply that any other "non white''-read black- are not critical nor count for anything.

HRC will never become President if somehow "sugar daddy" adulterer Mcshame and his hussy wife add another house to their 8 plus homes.


Posted by: shaun-Kar | August 24, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

McCAIN/CLINTON 08

vote for a REAL change...country first bipartisanship

Posted by: McCain/Clinton O8 | August 24, 2008 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Obama had the chance to unite the whole Democratic party, but chose not to do so. It is hard to believe you did not even vet Hillary, a slap in the face to half of the Democratic party. Yes many of Hillary's 18 million voters on the very liberal demographic will decide to switch and vote for you, but millions of others in the center may not, as well as many females and hispanics. In addition, you simply scare small businesses owners on taxes, democratic gun owners on gun control, and people experienced in world affairs that believe you will make mistakes that will make our country less safe because of your lack of international experience. Biden is a good choice but he did not appeal to half of the democratic party, unlike Hillary that helped energize the party to the end of the primaries - and Obama did not even vet her. political mistake! Obama failed to realize that when Obama and Hillary were both in the race the party was alive, passionate and energized. If Obama loses it will not be because of Hillary, but because Obama took the torch of the energized Democratic Party and let the flame burn out. Recent polls seem to agree.


Posted by: edabel | August 24, 2008 4:05 AM | Report abuse

The comment "Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 4:00 AM" was mine.

Posted by: Kralizec | August 24, 2008 4:04 AM | Report abuse

"I just can't believe that the same people who were fooled and voted for Bush twice could be fooled again and are now voting for McCain." (Posted by: 8yearsoffear | August 24, 2008 2:26 AM)

Many of those who expect to vote for McCain could wish the Democrats would give them some choice in the matter. A good starting point for coming to understand their opinion of Obama is to understand and accept, first, that they think McCain is quite flawed, perhaps dangerously so. They expect to have to fight McCain continually for the next four or eight years. But although readers may be surprised to hear it and may get their feelings hurt, it does seem to me that Americans on the right think the Democrats put up much the same Presidential candidate every time. Clinton and perhaps Mondale have been exceptions, but Carter, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, and Obama have been regarded--pardon me!--as self-important, over-confident clowns. People on the right may fear and hate such Democrats as the Clintons, Carville, Kos, and Olbermann, but I don't think they have hated Carter, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, and Obama or regarded them as evil. They fear them and deride them for what's regarded as their dangerous naivete and their strikingly high opinion of themselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 4:00 AM | Report abuse

>>For speaking the truth.
Oh my goodness, tell me it's not so!!!
The Republican presidential candidate is asking us to feel sorry for Hillary "For speaking the truth."
We're talking about Bills wife, right?
The one they called the lesbian, cannibal, serial liar, mass murderer...THAT Hillary Clinton?
Let us join hands and pray, brother and sisters, for it is surely the end times....

Posted by: dijetlo | August 24, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

Beware Charismatic Men Who Preach 'Change'

Editor, Times-Dispatch:
Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice. On June 30 I celebrate my independence day and on July 4 I celebrate America's. This year is special, because it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.

On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba and a few months later I was in the United States to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is just part of the story, but I digress.

I've thought a lot about the anniversary this year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what transpired there. In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive.

When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said "Praise the Lord." And when the young leader said, "I will be for change and I'll bring you change," everyone yelled, "Viva Fidel!"

But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most fortunate Cubans. And now I'm back to the beginning of my story.

Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised change without asking, what change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?

Would we?

Manuel Alvarez Jr. Sandy Hook.

Posted by: bewareamerica | August 24, 2008 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: wewillnotbesilenced | August 24, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Working-class people: A McCain presidency will bring more economic hardship upon us. McCain stands with the rich, not the everyman. If you care about keeping a roof over your head and food in your children's bellies, vote for Obama.

PS: Working-class father for McCain, I hear you. But I don't think McCain cares about American families when he does nothing to stop his rich friends from shipping our jobs overseas.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 24, 2008 3:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to believe if they were ignorant enough to vote for hillary they are ignorant enough to vote for McCain.

It seems to make sense to them. As long as they ignore the fact the two candidates are 180 degress apart from each other.

Yes ladies, vote for McCain. And you can kiss Roe v. Wade good bye. Because his very first appointment to the Supreme Court is all they are waiting for to get the needed 5-4 majority.

Vote for McCain and you too can have a part in re-writing history.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 3:32 AM | Report abuse

Would all you Hillary finatics please re-register as Republicans and go campaign for McCain and please STFU!

It's obvious at this point it wouldn't have mattered by how many delegate votes she lost. You folks would be whining like a little kid who just lost its favorite urine soaked teddy bear.

Enough already. The rest of us have already moved on. See ya'll in November.

Posted by: Bob | August 24, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

Obama to women: What are you gonna do? Vote for the pro-life guy? Then, shut up and sit down.

Posted by: Women need not apply | August 24, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

If you people really cared about me then you would stop whining and send me $1 each so I can pay back the campaign debt I incurred fighting for you...AND YOU WOULD RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT TO SAVE YOU AND YOUR CHILDRENS FUTURE.

Posted by: Hillary | August 24, 2008 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Won on a technicality? As any six year old knows; don't like rules you voted for? Then make up your own.

Posted by: mnwcsult | August 24, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Seeing how Obama has a propensity to 'change his mind', it wouldn't really surprise me to see him pick another running mate after he finds that Joe Biden hasn't given him a bump in the polling numbers.

Posted by: Reginald | August 24, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

I've been a registered Democrat for over 40 years and I voted for Bill Clinton twice & voted for Hillary once & I wouldn't think of voting for Obama. The boy wonder was given his halo by the Nations Press. I'm voting for the next President, John McCain. BTW, if there's any Obama supporters out there who can read, see my middle finger ?


Posted by: SadAmerican | August 24, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

I just cant belive that the same people who where fooled and voted for Bush twice could be fooled again and are now voting for Mc Cain. Have you not seen the damage that your president Bush has done? Can you not see how intelligence relates to making good decisions? Do you not know that both Bush and Mc cain finished in the bottom of their college class. Do you not understand that dumb is as dumb does. Do you really think you live better today than you did 8 years ago? We must learn from our past are be damn to watch it be repeated over and over again.


Come on people wake the hell up!

Posted by: 8yearsoffear | August 24, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Ok, after reading these posts I think I understand how this works. Here goes.

I'm a McCain supporter and I think it's appalling that Hillary isn't Obama's VP choice. I don't blame her supporters for being angry. Obama should have picked her. Since he didn't, McCain will win in a landslide.

By George, I think I got it. I might submit this for McCain points.

Posted by: Sandy | August 24, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

By the ads McCain is putting out on Biden's selection, I guess we can rule out Romney as his pick. After all, there's a wealth of material for Obama to put out similar ads. A lot of those quotes are McCain going after Romney.

Just this from Time in May, 2007:
McCain and Romney's War of Words

"Maybe I should wait a couple weeks and see if it changes," the Senator said. "Maybe he can get out his small varmint gun and drive those Guatemalans off his yard."

Or

Team Romney seeks to remind voters of: The angry old man, yelling at neighborhood kids to "Get off my lawn!"

Or this from the WSJ

. . . McCain fired off a statement accusing Romney of a "wholesale deception of voters." He also reiterated his counter-attack to reporters on a campaign stop in Jacksonville today that Romney is a flip-flopper.

"One thing we should really give Gov. Romney credit for: he is consistent. He has consistently taken both sides of any major issue. He has consistently flip-flopped on every issue," McCain said, arguing that Romney once supported campaign finance legislation and immigration proposals more in line with McCain’s view on the issue.

McCain further argued that it was Romney’s economic policies that have left the state of Massachusetts in the red because of a health-care system he implemented.

and

The personal animosity between the two leading candidates has become a regular story line in recent weeks with news outlets casting the fight between the two campaigns as increasingly acrimonious — and personal.


Posted by: Sandy | August 24, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

When will these supposedly disappointed hillary supporters ever come to their senses?

Obama gave prime time speaking slots to both bill and hillary on two separate days of convention. There will be a roll call vote to recognize the achievement of hillary's run. As far as VP slot goes, I honestly dont believe Hillary ever wanted that post. If she did she would have really shown more interest. He chose someone with vastly more experience that Hillary as VP. What more do you want from obama????

Posted by: sandy | August 24, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Not only were Hillary's supporters manipulated and bamboozled by her; now it's the Republicans' turn to manipulate and bamboozle this sorry bunch of emotional car wreaks.

Posted by: FredrickBernanke | August 24, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

"If Obama is thin-skinned, as the ad suggests, he would not have picked Biden, but a supporter like Kaine or Sebelius. Please at least be consistent in your Rovian inanity." (Posted by: RaymondA | August 24, 2008 1:17 AM)

The speculation is that the reason Obama chose Biden is that he was forced to work his way down his list, after being turned down by his first one or two choices. Some of the most thoughtful Democrats may think that a man who has been an associate of Ayers, Rezko, and Wright is likely to destroy to their political career. They may think that the matter of George Obama is a timebomb, too.

Posted by: Kralizec | August 24, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

To Ignatius
Folsom, California
I don't believe that the rules were followed. Obama won on a technicality, just like he did in his senate race. He is used to using dirty politics to win. As for integrity, look who he surrounds himself with. His church was not an aboration. That minister has been spouting racism for years. What about his loyal backer, Tony Rezko. I am very concerned about who Obama really is.

I will not vote for McCain, but I will not vote for Obama. I plan on writing Clinton in.

Posted by: Hope | August 24, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is the person most able to lead our country. Senator Clinton is just as ready but unfortunately many Democrats have been hoodwinked and bamboozled by Barack Obama. He will not win, he will not triumph in this election. He is not qualified to shine Senator Clinton's or Senator Mccain's shoes.

Posted by: cos | August 24, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

When will people learn to stop complaining about what is in the past and start looking at the future? Hillary is over with. All of those who say they will not vote for Obama because Hillary lost, or because he did not pick her as a running mate are being immature. If you are not going to vote for Obama, do it because you do not agree with his ideas, not because Hillary lost. That is just plain childish.

The American people have lost their common sense. People no longer vote for the best person for the job. They listen to all the mudslingers and loud mouths and vote against the one who is bad mouthed the most. Does anyone actually listen to the candidates anymore?

McCain seems like a nice old guy, but not someone strong enough to run the country. This is probably how other countries will see him too, and that worries me, alot.

When Obama picked Biden, he showed that he has the sense to make solid decisions. Obama saw where his weakness was, and filled it by picking Biden. To me that is smart. If you have a great football team, but you don't have a quarterback, do you get another lineman? No you get a quarterback! Obama was weak in foreign policy, so Biden was the best choice to complete the team.

In the Democratic debates, while most candidates where insulting each other, the one thing that stood out in my mind was that almost all of them, at one time or another, made the comment "I agree with Senator Biden". Now maybe most people missed that because they were all to busy watching Hillary and Obama.

The sad thing is, they weren't watching Obama and Hillary because they were interested in their views. It was because they were busy thinking about the possibilities of the first Woman or African American President. This is not Hillary's or Obama's fault. It is ours as a society. Americans are in most part either hypocrites or racists.

Yes Biden speaks his mind, but why is that a bad thing? Would you rather have someone who only tells you what you want to hear? No Biden didn't get the votes that Hillary did, but the truth is that this wasn't about the issues or ideas of the candidates, it was about who or what the candidates represented to those viewing the debates.

Also, people have been putting Obama down for picking Biden, because they think Biden doesn't fit in with Obama's Change slogan. Well Obama was smart enough to know that to make change, you need someone who has the experience to know what it takes to get it done. Biden has that experience. So again he is the best choice.

Americans need to "Get Real". Obama and Biden are the winning team for this country.

Posted by: Kathy Libbey | August 24, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

I am a hillary supporter and I really don't think I feel like voting this year. Obama lied about even considering Hillary. Biden is good, but Obama to me will always be arrogant, and anyone who thinks he will put Hillary on his cabinet well yeah those people also though she had a chance at vp. Obama stiffs it to Hillary every chance he has, hiring someone she fired, and the stupid 3am text.

Posted by: rachel | August 24, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

To the idiot that said in his post that McCain is "thin skinned". WTF? How about you be in a rat hole and be tortured for over 5 years. If you call that thin skinned you are a complete buffoon.

Well that is typical of an Obama supporter. Morons and uninformed fools.

Thank goodness Omama chose Biden. It is his kiss of death.

We are celebrating!!!!!

Posted by: Tami | August 24, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Well you knew when Hillary was throwing that kitchen sink that it would show up in republican ads. That's one of the reasons what she did against a fellow Democrat was so appalling.

Any Hillary supporter who now votes for McCain (or who doesn't vote) because they're having a hissy fit cannot ever really have believed in Hillary's policies or what she liked to call her life's work. How could they and vote for someone who's exactly the opposite. Do they now believe in McCain and his policies? And if not, why would they inflict McCain upon their fellow citizens? Because they're pissed?

Posted by: Sandy | August 24, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

the last 8 years have been awesome for me and my hedge fund!

the next four years are going to ROCK!!

Posted by: clintonista | August 24, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Biden will have to be the one to spread the nastiness back and focus on:

Letting folks know about McCain;
- reprehensible treatment of his first, crippled wife,
- Keating Five and countless errors in judgement,
- using surrendering in time of war as experience to lead.
- "Exxon" John

Defending against any Obama negaitives
- housing
- the Rev.
- the idea of age as "inexperience"
- popular appeal as a negative

Posted by: Republican VN Era Veteran | August 24, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Biden: "You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."
What?!
This is after they have given Obama millions.

Posted by: pete | August 24, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

McSame better run for Conspiracy theorist in chief after this BS ad. Its his only chance at victory.

Posted by: sandy | August 24, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

"Many of these posts slamming Obama for not picking Hillary are obviously written by paid hacks for the McCain campaign. I'm not falling for it.

I voted for Hillary in the Primary and know that if Obama loses...her supporters who didn't vote for Obama will get the blame. And that, quite simply, will end her career in politics.

That, my friends, is EXACTLY what the Republicans want...and are trying to do.

I'm not about to do that to her. I look forward to her having a very prominent position in an Obama administration."

I agree. There are too many coincidences in the language of these posts. They are obviously written by Repug hacks posing as disgruntled Hillary supporters. This is straight out of "special ops" propaganda manuals used surreptitiously in third world countries by the US government (and others) to try to foment rebellion. Its just been adapted to the internet. It would be nice if McCain would run an honest, honorable campaign, but he obviously left any honor he may have had back in Vietnam.

I love how the McCain campaign doesn't state one qualification of McCain or how his policies would help with the issues that Hillary supporters are concerned with. When you read in between the lines, its pretty much an admission that McCain doesn't have much to offer Hillary supporters. He's been against just about everything Hillary ever stood for. I'm pretty sure he's laughing his butt off at them right now as he tries to rile them up. All that this dishonest, dishonorable McCain campaign is doing right now is using deceitful innuendos when they know they can't substantiate their claims directly. Its amazing they think this is ok.

McCain is a loser and a jerk.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

Look Leon.

What are you talking about respect?

Hillary and Bill are both speaking at the convention, Obama, against most dems better judgement, is giving her a roll call and Obama's been nothing but a gentleman toward her the whole time she was running a very ugly negative campaign against him and you have the audacity to say he's not giving her respect?? I have no problem with Hillary people who are voting for Obama. It's the Hillary people who are voting for McCain I have BIG problems with.

Posted by: Johnny Reb | August 24, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Kralezec wrote:
The bloggers, commenters, and other writers are quite pleased by Senator Obama's choice of Senator Biden as his running mate.

Funny because most of the left is quite pleased with Biden.
We find him likable and down to earth and see the chance for a real partnership there.
We like Biden's championship of women's issues and families. We like his being a true democrat.
but, then we will probably see McCain's choice as weak and vunerable.
But, most of us are quite happy and excited with having Biden as the veep and think he will be a strong campaigner and a huge help for Barack Obama with the bread and butter issues.

Posted by: vwcat | August 24, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Leon wrote:
I intended to volunteer for Barak- I am waiting until I see some evidence of respect- it is always disappointing to when you support a candidate who doesn't win-

Leon, I am an Obama supporter. It seems that you see us as sore winners and we see you as sore losers.
dont' you think that there is a huge disconnect where one side see things so much different from the other and is generally just pissed off at that side.
Too bad there is not some place where the Obama supporters and Hillary ones can just go and hash the misunderstandings out and get all the anger and resentment of both sides out on the table and move on.
It's like you say you want respect. We don't know what in the world you are talking about.
It's ashame that sometimes the cyberworld keeps us from actually talking in real terms and just fosters the constant anger and miscommunications.

Posted by: vwcat | August 24, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Scavengers will do and say anything - that's McCain.

Posted by: Jay | August 24, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

I read and comment at http://hotair.com/ nearly every day and often browse what's being said on other "rightwing" sites. The bloggers, commenters, and other writers are quite pleased by Senator Obama's choice of Senator Biden as his running mate. They're extremely surprised by what they consider to have been a very weak choice and a badly timed announcement. I haven't seen any signs of dismay or fear in regard to the announcement of Biden's candidacy, just good spirits and relief. An opinion that was first offered by Ed Morrissey of HotAir and that seems to be gaining currency is that Obama chose Biden because he'd been turned down by his first one or two choices. The mood on the right had already begun to improve as early as a couple of weeks ago, but Obama's choice of Biden has been like a couple of shots of whiskey for everyone.

Posted by: Kralizec | August 24, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

no cindy mccain is not involved with mobsters just high dose presciption drugs. that is one sorry woman. dragging herself behind her husband with a broken arm when there was nothing she was doing on the campaign trail except play mccain's handbag. i guess she is looking for a little sympathy to become first lady. all that money and houses not enough for her. get real!

Posted by: American prayer | August 24, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

look "JOHNNY REB"- first of all dump the confederate name please

Secondly- Clinton supporters are not a bunch of wackos, they are 1/2 the people who voted for the Dem nomination- and what I, as a supporter of hers, who is now supporting him, want is the respect due to us. The constant ridiculous insulting of our candidate, not based on policy or voting history, which she is better than Obama on, but personal and mysogynist attacks is hurtful. The name calling of her supporters is even worse. I have been a pragmatic leftist since age 13, volunteering for every Dem candidate for president since 1984 and many progressive candidates in the primaries (Jackson in 88, B. Kerry in 92, etc.)- I didn't support her because of racism, which we repetitively get accused of on these boards- I supported her because she has been my senator for 8 years and done a good job and she produced more ambitiously progressive policy proposals.

I intended to volunteer for Barak- I am waiting until I see some evidence of respect- it is always disappointing to when you support a candidate who doesn't win- I have a lot of experience in this department- but sore winners will make it so that people like me don't go the extra mile, and people less politically invested will just stay home.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:28 AM | Report abuse

McCain's attempt to win over Hillary's supporters might actually work, if they weren't already republicans just posing as democrats. -Like the founder of PUMA who donated to McCain's campaign, and was one of his supporters in 2000.

Save your money, McCain. Since they're republicans, they'll already vote for you.

Posted by: jds | August 24, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Hillary 08 and 12

They are meant for each other.

Posted by: Deluded | August 24, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Ladies, do you even read or know anything about Joe Biden??? He fought for our rights as women. He promoted and passed ligislatures for our benefit. I am so proud to be a woman and I'm so proud that Hillary is much better than her people, you should be ashame of yourselves. I'm so glad she is a true Democrat!!! She trashed Obama there is no question about that, she wanted to win that's a fact, but ones she knew she wasn't, she didn't start crying and feel sorry for herself or said "that's it I'm leaving the democrats and going republican. She didn't because realized that we need to get to the White House in order to clean the house and bring back order to the American People!!! Classy lady, when she needs to be, too bad I can't say the same thing about you.

Posted by: Mildred | August 24, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone think that the notoriously thin-skinned McCain is projecting his own resentment about being passed over for VP by Bush in 2000? He got the second most votes but got nothing for it.

Posted by: Fred723 | August 24, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

To Hillary Smith
You better check out who has an integrity problem. Voters in Texas were turned away from the caucuses by Obama operatives, who told them they did not need to go into the caucus to be counted because by just showing up at the door, they were counted. These Obama people wouldn't even let the voters sign the papers at the caucus.
Integrity? I would have the Obama campaign look in the mirror.
By the way, I am not a paid republican hack. I am a democrat who has voted democrat for 37 years and never missed an election. I have a problem with the Obama campaign. He won on a technicality, just like he did in his senate race. If all the votes had gone to the person they were intended for, Hillary Clinton would be in the general election. The problem is that people went to the polls thinking that their vote would count. These are everyday American citizens who don't have much influence on party politics. All they know is that they voted for Hillary Clinton and Obama received half of the vote even though he didn't bother to have his name on the ballot in one case and in another, he was there and lost and he got half the votes anyway. The DNC granted these delegates to him when he didn't earn them. Have the primary over, but don't give votes to someone who wasn't even on the ballot.
Also, don't influence the vote by constantly running program after progam about racism in America, if your not going to run programs about sexism, too. In a jury trial, jurists would have been prohibited from watching these programs if they had a case involving an African American. It would have been considered undue influence. In an election, it is called free campaign ads. If the tables had been turned, Obama people would be crying foul.
As for Obama being better than McCain, who knows. Obama either has no record or seems to vote along with Bush. The war, energy bill, etc. He would have been easier to stomach if he had Clinton as his running mate and he would have had a better chance.

Posted by: Hope | August 24, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

The problem is this. Hillary people don't just want to be heard, they want to be disruptive. We already know the caliber of their intelligence if they're voting form McCain. These people are WACKOS! If they want to exercise free speech, they can do it away from the convention. They plan to hijack Obama's nomination and if they do, all I'm saying is this--prepare to get thumped.

Posted by: Johnny Reb | August 24, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

It's incoherent. And Shear should point this out. Saturday, McCain puts out an ad showing Biden taking a dig at Obama and puts out surrogates to say: "Biden is Obama's harshest critic!"

Sunday, the theme is "Obama is so afraid of critics that he would not pick Hillary."

Sorry but you can't have it both ways, McCain. If Obama is thin-skinned, as the ad suggests, he would not have picked Biden, but a supporter like Kaine or Sebelius. Please at least be consistent in your Rovian inanity.


Posted by: RaymondA | August 24, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

John McCain actively campaigned against equal pay legislation this year. Apparently he thinks that they aren't entitled to make the same wages as a man in a similar job. His response was "that they needed more education".

John McCain's first wife was in a grievous accident while he was a POW. When he came back she was heavier in weight and a few inches shorter due to her injuries. John McCain promptly began cheating on her with amongst others his second wife.

John McCain wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade. If he gets to submit another Supreme Court justice, he just might get his wish.

John McCain once made the following joke (paraphrased) "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno"...

Yeah, I am sure a vote for McCain would do a great service to Clinton's causes.

Posted by: Seanm | August 24, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Jefflz said:"What is shocking is that McCain presumes that intelligent women can be so bitter about Clinton's loss of the primary that they are willing to vote against their own personal interests."

You need to change and add a few words... try this reality...

"Um... What is shocking is that Obama presumes that intelligent people can be so crazed about Obama that they are willing to vote against the best interests of their country. Voting for Obama is voting for communism and against everythign our country stands for. Voting for a man who studied how to hate our country for 20 years with racist mentors in a arcist church is voting for racism and hatred for our country... Obama supported it for 20 years - so if you support him you support it too!

Posted by: OBAMAJAMESCONE | August 24, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Jefflz said:"What is shocking is that McCain presumes that intelligent women can be so bitter about Clinton's loss of the primary that they are willing to vote against their own personal interests."

You need to change and add a few words... try this reality...

"Um... What is shocking is that Obama presumes that intelligent people can be so crazed about Obama that they are willing to vote against the best interests of their country. Voting for Obama is voting for communism and against everythign our country stands for. Voting for a man who studied how to hate our country for 20 years with racist mentors in a racist church is voting for racism and hatred for our country... Obama supported it for 20 years - so if you support him you support it too!

Posted by: OBAMAJAMESCONE | August 24, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Jefflz said:"What is shocking is that McCain presumes that intelligent women can be so bitter about Clinton's loss of the primary that they are willing to vote against their own personal interests."

You need to change and add a few words... try this reality...

"Um... What is shocking is that Obama presumes that intelligent people can be so crazed about Obama that they are willing to vote against the best interests of their country. Voting for Obama is voting for communism and against everythign our country stands for. Voting for a man who studied how to hate our country for 20 years with racist mentors in a racist church is voting for racism and hatred for our country... Obama supported it for 20 years - so if you support him you support it too!

Posted by: OBAMAJAMESCONE | August 24, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

For the first time in my life I will vote Republican. The selection of Biden was the final insult to Hillary Clinton. She may be speaking at the convention but that is because the pressure is on her to stick with the party line. Her followers (like myself) don't have to do the same. I will vote for McCain over Obama-Biden. If Hillary was picked as his running mate, I would have voted for that ticket.

Posted by: Bob | August 24, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

McCain lacks dignity and as everyday goes by he shows it more and more. It must be all that ambition to be president. He fought for it in 2000 and lost to Bush. I think McCain has a checklist and being president is the last thing left for him to check off. He is using the pumas as he is using the conservatives until he does not need them anymore then he'll toss them all like dirty underwear. Yup!

Posted by: American prayer | August 24, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Exactly what has Obama done for women besides call them sweetie and use sexist comments toward Hillary Clinton during the Primary? And has now, of course, chosen a white male VP even though he was GIVEN votes that GAVE him the nomination because of his race!
And we are to worry about Roe v Wade?

This Dem will vote for McCain!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

McCain should make an ad that features Obama flipping Hillary off in front of all of those cheering people and then cut to Father Phleger making his racist comments about Hillary in front of the other group of cheering people.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

What is shocking is that McCain presumes that intelligent women can be so bitter about Clinton's loss of the primary that they are willing to vote against their own personal interests. Even if they aren't enthralled with Obama and feel cheated by the bizarre primary process, how can these women support a man who will over turn Roe v. Wade?, a man who has demonstrated his contempt for women through his coarse remarks even to his own wife? a man who promises to send their sons into more illegal wars? a man who has brought in Karl Rove the Cheney/Bush attack dog,, Ralph Reed the corrupt Christian Coalition leader and Phil Gramm of Texas/Enron fame to run his campaign?? Get real and move on -only Republicans could stomach a vote for McCain/Bush. It is simply the worst possible formula for the advancement of women's causes.

Posted by: jefflz | August 24, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

The right loves to lie. We've been lied to for eight years. Obama will make this a government for the people once again. Bush ruined this country. No goods are made here anymore, we're reduced to buying a bunch of crap from China, we're a nation with a immense debt and the republicans who've been in power want you to think it's the democrat's fault. The sad thing is that there are people who let Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do their thinking for them and believe this. Look at all the corruption over the last eight years. With Obama we get our government back, with McCain things get a lot worse.

Posted by: Hubert | August 24, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Hey, don't blame Obama's woes on HRC. I know that those who dislike her want to blame her for famine, tsunamis, their schizophrenic aunt's rantings and the price of dry cleaning but she does not infact bear responsibility for any of these things and she is not responsible for Barak's problems.

I am voting for him now but Barak has run a campaign on rhetoric- he has basically stated that HE is the change WE have been waiting for- because he has not specified how his administration would otherwise be any different from anything else. He allowed people to place their own hopes and aspirations on a blank slate- so when he caves in and gives the WRONG answers on FISA, NAFTA (to the Canadians), the death penalty, gun control, etc. it is easy to label him with lacking substance or convictions. Although he ran against old style politics, he in fact is the master of them- and that is how he beat HRC, who got as many votes as him, but he gamed her. Unfortunately, McCain is running an effective campaign--we had better stop making jokes about his age or stereotyping him and address the ISSUES. We win on the issues-even if Barak is not presenting incredibly ambitious progressive visions (Edwards and HRC had given better) and has not history of doing anything in particular- he is on the correct side on almost every issue. It is a mistake to go to personal attacks because they have as much or more ammunition to work with- we nominated a glorified state senator. Additionally, Obama was supposed to be above all of this (in his rhetoric, he certainly wasn't during the nomination process). I think a few major issue oriented speeches- really hitting hard on the economy, the war, etc. and NO MORE CAVING IN- stick to the persona you claimed during the nomination- will work better for everyone. Additionally, when you win on the issues, you have capital to spend once elected. A popularity contest yields no political capital.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THESE ADS . . .

THEY ARE IRRELEVANT . . .

THEY MASK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR REAL, HARD WORKING AMERICANS . . .

Americans with families believe in . . .

-> Universal access to health care; not only because it's the right thing, but also BECAUSE IT WILL COST 1/3 THE CURRENT COST OF PAYING FOR EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS FOR THE UNINSURED POOR.
-> Incentives for corporations THAT KEEP AND CREATE JOBS HERE IN THE USA - NOT, AS McCAIN ADVOCATES, TAX BREAKS FOR ANY COMPANY WILLING TO SHIP JOBS OVERSEAS.
-> A fair tax burden, one that doesn't tax the middle class in order to support low taxes (OR, according to a recent study, NO TAXES for most of the upper 1% of income earners) for the wealthy.
-> Foreign policy that does not make us THE POLICEMAN OF THE WORLD. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. PERIOD.
-> The creation of jobs as a result of incentives in industries that SUPPORT OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE
-> The repair of our DECAYING INFRASTRUCTURE. (Do you remember the bridge that collapsed in Minneapolis?)

Most of my Republican friends DO NOT believe that Senator Obama isn't a patriot. They just disagree with me on the above issues.

That's cool. I respect them. Because they're participating WITHOUT DEMONIZING THEIR FELLOW AMERICANS.

BUT those Republicans (OR DEMOCRATS) that would label the opposition as UN-American are violating not the law, but a deep principle, a tradition of civility in the public square - a tradition that we would do well to remember if we truly love our beloved country.

I love my country. I believe in God and practice faith that I keep to myself, because I don't believe that faith is a matter of flash. I also believe, and passionately, in the separation of church and state - that's so that you can worship however you choose (same thing goes for me or for folks that choose not to worship at all).

I believe John McCain loves this country. I disagree with his stands on the issues. And I fear a NEW WAR in Iran, because I do not believe that we can afford it, and because I believe that we should work WITH the world - not because of some sort of New World Order, but because WE WILL NEVER LIVE IN A WORLD where we can afford to UNILATERALLY maintain the peace. WE MUST WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS AND PRACTICE DIPLOMACY WITH OUR FOES . . .

Which brings up an interesting point. How many of us remember that in the days of the old Soviet Union we had a large and active embassy in Moscow, were in constant negotiations with the Soviets, were constantly looking for new trade opportunities with our Cold War enemy, and . . .

WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE ALL OF THESE AS NOT ONLY A MEANS OF PRACTICING HENRY KISSINGERS "GULLIVERISM" BUT ALSO AS A MEANS OF . . .

GATHERING HUMAN INTELLIGENCE.

AND REMEMBER: We won the Cold War?

Yes, we grew and maintained a strong military, without which negotiations would've been meaningless. Indeed, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have both read Machiavelli, Clauswitz, Sun Tsu, Metternich, Bismarck, and Kissinger. They are from the Realist school of foreign policy - not the neoconservative one. The former believes that we should utilize ALL AVAILABLE OPTIONS, beginning with diplomacy, trade and intelligence activities (embassies help with the latter), and including military options (as a last resort and in concert with allies that can help us defray the cost). Further, they believe that geopolitics is a CHESS GAME - NOT THE EQUIVALENT OF EXTREME FIGHTING. Every region and the whole world are about a delicate balance of powers and about wise maneuvering to leverage our position in the world (remember Nixon [via Kissinger] in China?).

John McCain - God bless him for his service, but I disagree here - believes in saber rattling, posturing, bluster, threats, bullying and the use of the military under less-than-necessary conditions - OR AT LEAST THAT'S THE IMAGE HE'S BEEN PROJECTING THIS YEAR.

Now, if you're a Republican and a far right conservative, God bless you, too.

Then vote that way. But PLEASE join me and others in working hard to modulate our dialogue this year. Gosh knows, I've blown it more than once, generating far more heat than light. But, I'm trying and I hope my loyal brethren on the right will make every effort to lead by example.

We live in the greatest nation in all of human history. We are still the "shining city on a hill." We are idealists, competitors, innovators and the hardest working people on this planet. I weep at the sight of my flag and at the sound of our anthem. I love my country with all of my heart. Sometimes I get angry - even bitter - when I see us APPEARING to be bigoted, uncaring, closed-minded or supportive of war as opposed to diplomacy. Yet, I am wrong when I do.

God bless America this year. If I, a supporter of Barack Obama, am wrong, then I pray that God amends my incorrectness by assuring Senator McCain's election. If I am right, then I look forward to seeing Senators Obama and Biden in the White House.

No matter who wins, a patriot will sit in the Oval Office.

God Bless America
OBAMA-BIDEN '08

Posted by: VitalCenter | August 24, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Obama choosing Biden was a poor choice. During his last bid for president he garnered 2-3% of the vote. He will not bring in more votes and while I respect his credentials thoroughly he should be secretary of defense or state...not a VP.

Hillary was and still is the best choice. She could certainly help with the swing states vs. McCain, helped bring in the latino and immigrant vote and mend the bridges with the 18 million voters who followed her.

Worried about Bill? Give him something to do. Look up his speech in Las Vegas this last week with Pickens. He was brilliant. Make him the energy czar. People worry to much about him being a loose cannon; that is only a problem if there is nothing specific to point at.

All of you can rail on each other here as long as you want. Just look at the current numbers. The single and double-digit leads Obama had before are gone. He has not brought about any real solid policy explanations. He has flip flopped on FISA and off shore drilling.

Biden will not give him a bounce and if the Democrats are REALLY serious about winning some sort of change to bring Hillary instead of Biden on the ticket must occur immediately.

I have seen the future. Unfortunately, it won't be Obama-Biden in the white house. There will be just a bunch of Obama-Biden bumper stickers to remind us of what could have been.

Posted by: Real World Realities | August 24, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

If John McCain were indeed, an honorable man as he purports, he would have appealed to Hillary Clinton supporters to vote for him, on the merit and strength of his policy position over Sen. Obama's (a claim he cannot make), rather than, cowardly, inflame the emotions of the remnants of the so-called Hillary Clinton supporters.

Here is my advise to the so-called Hillary Clinton supporters, who are threatening to vote for the Republicans, or seat out the election, rather than vote for the Democratic ticket (if Hillary Clinton is not on it): you all are very intelligent voters (very intelligent women, given that most of this bloc are women). Hillary Clinton ran a very effective campaign, but she did not win the nomination. You would agree, that the nomination was free and fair, played by rules and players established and appointed by Bill and Hillary Clinton. However, at the end of the Primary, she did not win, just like several other candidates (all of whom are men). None of the men has alleged that they were schemed out, or that the process and rules were unfair. When it came to choosing the VP, the nominee had the prerogative to choose whomever he wanted to be on the ticket with him. I can understand your frustration that Hillary (your candidate) did not win the nomination. However, what I think is irrational, is the position, some of you are taking, threatening to vote for the Republicans (John McCain of all Republicans), or worse yet, seat at home and not vote, rather than vote for the Obama - Biden ticket, simply, because Hillary Clinton is not on the ticket. It would be foolish and counter productive, if you carry out this threat. The reason is simple. Your issues (whatever they are) -a woman's right to choose, Supreme Court nomination, the economy, affordable cost of health care and access to care, and a host of other issues of particular interest to women as a voting bloc, would be better met in a Democratic administration of Obama and Biden, even, if Hillary Clinton was not on the ticket, than in a Republican administration. This is a fundamental fact. If the leadership of your group has not educated you on this fact, you ought to fire them, all right away, because, they are misguiding you.

Therefore, I strongly advise you not to carry out the threat -vote for John McCain, or seat out the election, and risk, Democrats losing. If you do, you would have cut your nose to spite your face, smart voters do not do that. If, Obama - Biden ticket wins the election, inspite of your opposition -voting for John McCain and the Republicans, or seating at home, you would have lost your right to urge the administration to attend to issues of interest to your group. You had better once and for all, during the convention give up this foolish idea of voting for John McCain, or seat at home, than vote for the Democratic ticket.

As for Hillary Clinton, you have a responsibility to tell this remnant of your supporters, that you are not a candidate in the General election, and that they should vote for the Democratic ticket, even, without you on the ticket. Stop sending mixed signals to this group of your supporters. Someone-else can attend to and meet the needs of your supporters, besides you. Right now, in this upcoming General election, the two leaders for the Democrats to make good on that, are Sen. Obama and Biden.

Ignatius
Folsom, California.

Posted by: Ignatius Anyanwu | August 24, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Error:
That is 18 MILLION votes for Hillary and 9500 votes for Biden. The 5 was dropped in error for Biden.! Want to make sure we count EVERY vote! Something not important to Obama, unless they are for him, or "given" to him...like the JJ votes that noone, including Obama supporters and the media, talk about! This whole election is a joke! Obama is a BOZO!

Posted by: DEM still IND | August 24, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

JohnnyReb said, "there will be blood" and you think Senator Clinton's supporters are deranged? We want to be heard, that is all. You, sir are not going to deny anyone their right to free speech or right to assemble.

Posted by: vicsmith | August 24, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

theirs aton of baggage with hill including the lies and politics

Posted by: jobb | August 24, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

McCain is pro-life. Does he thinks he is better than God? As far as I know when God placed Adam and Eve at the Garden, he also placed some trees and told them, you can eat out of all of these,but don't touch this one, because you surely will die. Guess what? He gave them a choice!!!!And that choice was so sacred to him, that up to now, he still respects it. Who are we or who is McCain to tell anyone what to do, imposing laws by man? There is only one God and he and only him will be my judge!!Thank God I'm been judge by God and not by men!!!

Posted by: MIldred | August 24, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Of course, if Hillary had won the nomination, or if Obama had picked her to be No. 2, it's easy to imagine the attack ads that would now be pouring out of the GOP. They would be spilling guts over every real and imagined Clinton scandal and scaring the country with visions of Jezebel on the loose.

Get over it, Hillary folks. This is the time to close ranks and throw the bastards out. Hillary and Bill, now that McCain and those who control his message have shown their hand, we're all counting on you to give those slimebags holy hell.

Obama-Biden 08! And Hillary, just wait til 2016.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Hillary Smith
I am a "working class" father for Mccain - you asked for reasons let me give a few: inexperience, choice on kids schools not their lives, national security, one party rule, belief that work not redisribution of income is what will make this country strong again

Posted by: working class father for Mccain | August 24, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Obama wants America to see what good judgement he has, so careful thought was given for choosing his VP.

Let's see,...Hillary or Joe?

Hillary received 18 million votes and Joe received 900.

And of course we have Women's issues to consider. That is important to the Democrat Party and the Women's Vote. Who would help and know more about women's issues?
Hillary or Joe?

So 18 million verses 9500 and Women's Issues.


GREAT JUDGEMENT, BOZO!


Posted by: DEM still voting IND | August 24, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

McCain people...WAKE UP!!

McCain doesn't support veterans, he cheated on his first wife, he took a bribe from Charles Keating, he couldn't even abide by McCain-Feingold the bill he had written, he admits to knowing nothing about the economy, his wife is a liar who was a drug addict who stole to feed her oxycontin addiction, he doesn't know which countries border Iraq, he's flip-flopped on abortion and now supports Obama's plan for a timeline in Iraq. He's often confused and if Joe L. isn't nearby, he makes a fool of himself. McCain rolled over when he was attacked by Bush and Rove about having a 'black baby', he's embarrassed to say how many homes he owns, (up to 10), he was never a military commander but likes to give the impression he was, he crashed FIVE planes in training...the list goes on and on. McCain is not fit to manage a McDonald's let alone be president. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

Posted by: McCain's Done | August 24, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

18 million cracks... the repugs hope to carry them like 6 packs....

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 24, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA-BIN-BIDEN is no "leader" of Hillary's supporters. We won't be programmed that way!!

Hillary's supporters picked her because she is the genuine article, she is experienced, and she is tough(as in she doesn't need a VP pick to fight her battles)!!!

Hillary '12

Posted by: Maria | August 24, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

ATTN. Hillary hangers-on: GET OVER IT!

I know it sucks for your candidate to have lost, but you need to move on.

This latest McCain attack ad essentially proves our fears that Hil was destroying the chances for a unified Democratic party and a Democrat president were justified. And what do you know--John McCain is now using Clinton's attacks to the advantage of the Republicans...

ARE YOU HAPPY?? IS THIS WHAT WE WANT???

PS: How can McCain even TRY to use a line about Obama's campaign becoming "increasingly negative"? HE is running the most negative campaign possible! The hypocrisy is truly ASTOUNDING...

Posted by: Obamabot | August 24, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

If the Hillbots think they can hijack this convention, there will be blood.

Posted by: Johnny Reb | August 24, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

"who voters want answering the phone in the White House at 3 a.m."

Someone who is a patriot and believes in the true ideals of our country and promotes our American Flag, our Constitution, and our way of life. Someone who has served him/her-self to the Armed Forces, Someone who has been a proven public servant for YEARS, someone who is not linked to g*d-D*mning America, raping the poor (with help from Rezko), and having other criminals as friends and idols.

I will vote for John McCain for President. Because I love my country and want you, me, and our children to live a long, happy, prosperous, and proud American life.


President Reagan on Patriotism - WE ARE ONLY ONE OBAMA-BIN-BIDEN GENERATION AWAY FROM NOT BEING FREE!
"So, we've got to teach history based not on what's in fashion but what's important: Why the Pilgrims came here, who Jimmy Doolittle was, and what those 30 seconds over Tokyo meant. You know, four years ago on the 40th anniversary of D-Day, I read a letter from a young woman writing of her late father, who'd fought on Omaha Beach. Her name was Lisa Zanatta Henn, and she said, "We will always remember, we will never forget what the boys of Normandy did." Well, let's help her keep her word. If we forget what we did, we won't know who we are. I'm warning of an eradication of the American memory that could result, ultimately, in an erosion of the American spirit. Let's start with some basics: more attention to American history and a greater emphasis on civic ritual. And let me offer lesson No. 1 about America: All great change in America begins at the dinner table. So, tomorrow night in the kitchen I hope the talking begins. And children, if your parents haven't been teaching you what it means to be an American, let 'em know and nail 'em on it. That would be a very American thing to do."
http://www.reaganlibrary.com/reagan/speeches/farewell.asp

Posted by: Vince | August 24, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I guess Mccain never heard of the theory of a common enemy. It is very strong and has turned the course of wars. This will turn on Mccain

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

What a sad, sad, image for the Hillary Clinton supporters. McCain is doing nothing but using you to defeat your own leader. Iam so glad that Hillary is much more women than anyone can ever imagine. She lost but then again she is a "DEMOCRAT" first!!! She can't do nothing for you, for her herself, or her Country unless you give her the opportunity. Stop been childish and don't hurt your party. All you're doing is demonstrating that you put your feelings first, no matter who you destroy(the american people, yourself.) Please don't fall in his(McCain) trapp, he'll use you to get into power and then give the tax cuts to the wealthy. Take a look at "AMERICA" its time for change you can believe in!!! Go Obama,Go Biden, Go Hillary, go Democrats!!!!

Posted by: Mildred | August 24, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

vincey i guess your kind of an idiot huh

Posted by: pete | August 24, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

RHONDA: You should do your homework before you continue to show your ignorance. The Clintons have a massively evil back ground and to ignore that is to ignore the innocence of your children. Check out YouTube.com and search Clinton Chronicles for a starter. Maybe you don't think it's questional that 36+/- were murdered around the Clintons and when you see those 4 ATF agents going up the stairs at WACO get murdered (watch how the bullets come out of the walls) where Clintons former secret service who knew way too much to be allowed to live to tell. So Rhonda give it a break and get schoooled on the topic of "The Clintons". Get over it Rhonda, get over it 'cause what you are supporting is a lie and deception pher shure.

Posted by: MissClarity | August 24, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

bitter hillary backers show their true class

Posted by: may | August 24, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Hillary lost me when she said she didn't think Obama was a Muslim. Right there she showed her true colors. The Hillary supporters by doing all this whining and threatening they really are embarrassing themselves.

Posted by: Janet | August 24, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, and BIDEN VOTED FOR THE WAR, JUST LIKE HILLARY!!!

Obama didn't vote for sh** concerning the war, HE WASN'T EVEN A SENATOR YET!!

GOT EXPERIENCE? DUH!

Posted by: Vince | August 24, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Bushama-Bin-Biden '08


LOL NOT!!!!

Posted by: Vince | August 24, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

"who voters want answering the phone in the White House at 3 a.m."

Well, it would definitely be someone who knew his Sunni from his Shia.

Posted by: Soldiers Mom | August 24, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

bill clinton was a poor human being who knew how to make people laugh, when their mad at each other thats it. theirs just way too much baggage bringing in the clintons. way to go all the clinton suppoters who wont vote for barrack, you should be proud of your lack of class. hillery will neeevveer be pres IDIOTS!

Posted by: paul b | August 24, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vince | August 24, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

RHONDA: Get your dirty republican chrisianity mind out of the gutter and back up on the curb where you belong. Oh that's right your down with the gutter action. Praise the Lord anyway.

Posted by: MissClarity | August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Well Mary,

Granted, our level of discourse has taken a downward spiral, but it's been that kind of day. Forgive us, Mother, for we have sinned. Oh, and we're human and pissed.

Posted by: vicsmith | August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm posting the following because the public has the right to know what's going on:

In Philadelphia, PA, on Friday, Aug 22, 2008, Philip J. Berg, Esq., filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama, seeking a restraining order, from continuing his candidacy for the US Presidency, until he can prove he is a natural American citizen.

I read the lawsuit. It states that an investigation revealed that when Obama visited Pakistan in 1981, at age 20, Obama used an Indonesian passport. Also, that the Birth Certificate on Obama's website is a forgery. Three independent document forensic experts have performed extensive tests. The birth certificate on Obama's website is that of his sister's.

The lawsuit can be viewed at:

http://obamacrimes.com/attachments/001_ObamaMemSupportTRO082108.pdf

Philip J. Berg, Esq., is a Philadelphia lawyer, former Deputy Attorney General of PA, former candidate for Governor and US Senate in the Democratic primaries, former County Chair for the Democratic Party, and a former member of the Democratic State Committee.

The judge must think there is sufficient evidence presented by the Plaintiff, because the judge took the case Friday. It was NOT dismissed.

I haven't seen or heard mention of this lawsuit in the MSM, either in print, TV or an MSM website. I googled and no MSM newspaper is carrying it, not even the Philly ones. It's in the blogsphere and it was posted in a CBS Sports community blog. I received an email of its press release. What gives?

And another thing, remember earlier this year when the US State Dept Passport Office computer system was breached and someone got into Obama's file. The culprit was affiliated with Obama's campaign. Do you remember that?

Only time will tell.


Posted by: Janet8 | August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Someone asked about the 5 most important issues of this presidential campaign:

1. I must trust the candidate to tell the truth and to do what he states.
2. The presidential candidate must be experienced in foreign affairs and not rely on the vice president to deal with foreign affair problems.
3. The candidate must be honorable and must place his country and the people ahead of himself.
4. The candidate must be able to appoint staff, cabinet members, judges, etc. who are competent and have similar judgments and ideals as the candidate and I must agree with the candidate on issues important to me.
5. The candidate must not be an arrogant, egotical liar.

I therefore support the honorable John McCain

Posted by: Larry Johnson | August 24, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

ok so wait - first they come out with an ad saying obama has chosen his "harshest critic" and then another one that says he didn't choose someone who criticized him? i think that's sending a confusing message cause I am certainly am confused

Posted by: farah | August 24, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

We had a dumb guy for president for eight years and look what happened. This time I'm voting for the smart guy and fyi, it's NOT McAncient.

Posted by: Udo | August 24, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

I've just read through every one of these comments and I must say, I'm rather discouraged and saddened by most of them. I'll keep politics completely out of this comment and just say that I thought Americans were better than this. Most of these comments are mocking of another's beliefs and opinions, rude, and completely irrational.

Sure, you might think McCain is old, has tons of political problems, etc, but do remember that he has attempted to serve his country as best he could. he would not have submitted himself to five years of torture for some sort of personal gain. On the flip side, Obama might be inexperienced and have his own short comings, but he is an intelligent man who has worked hard to achieve what he believes is good and right. Neither of these candidates deserve crude mockery and poorly aimed jokes. And none of the people who have voiced their comments on this forum deserve it either.

Throughout our nation's history, we have been known to the world as idealists and open-minded thinkers. If I had just this forum to judge that reputation upon,I would have to say that we are failing, tarnishing that which our entire culture has prided itself on for centuries. We, the American voters, should be rational and level-headed, and, unfortunately, cool judgment is not present in this discussion. Debate, true debate is when you value your opponent and seek to destroy his or her argument, not the person themselves. Ad hominum attacks do not get you anywhere and simply set your opponent more firmly in their own belief. Let's get some facts on the table, let's not simply squabble like children.

Posted by: Mary | August 24, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

DUMP THE PARTY ALLEGIANCE LIKE I DID AFTER THE OBAMA CAMP DISGRACED HILLARY AND CALLED THE CLINTONS RACISTS!

THE PARTY IS WHAT FORCED THE UNFAIR CAUCUS ON EVERYONE... IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRIMARIES, HILLARY WOULD BE THE DEM CANDIDATE NOW!!

McCain '08
Hillary '12

Posted by: Rhonda | August 24, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama has successfully PIMPED out Hillary AND her husband. How respectful.

Do you know what Hillary gets out of Mr. Obama being elected? NOTHING!

Count me as another registered Democrat for Hillary in '12 and McCain in '08

Obamabots have killed my desire to join their foolishness

Posted by: Titiana | August 24, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Tristan,

You're not wanted in the democratic party because if you can't have Hillary, you say you'll vote for McCain. That makes you a REPUBLICAN! Get a clue!

Posted by: McCain's Done | August 24, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

clinton supporters are almost embarassing now your looking like idiots obamma is the best pres. canadate ever hello

Posted by: paul | August 24, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

All McCain can do is try and stir up trouble. If he was a man of peace he wouldn't want to commit the USA to 100 years of war murdering more of our young based on a lie. Grow up McCain. Your history of C- is showing. McCain is a man confused with truth because the truth is not in him. Good oh Bush politics. Girly girl mean girl tactics.

Posted by: MissClarity | August 24, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

A biker is riding by the zoo, when he sees a little girl leaning into
the lion's cage.
Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the cuff of her jacket and tries to pull
her inside to slaughter her, under the eyes of her screaming parents.
The biker jumps off his bike, runs to the cage and hits the lion square
on the nose with a powerful punch.

Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl, and
the biker brings her to her terrified parents, who thank him endlessly.
A New York Times reporter has watched the whole event. The reporter
says, 'Sir, this was the most gallant and brave thing I saw a man do in
my whole life.'

The biker replies, 'Why, it was nothing, really, the lion was behind
bars. I just saw this little kid in danger, and acted as I felt right.'
The reporter says, 'Well, I'm a journalist from the New York Times, and
tomorrow's paper will have this story on the front page... So, what do
you do for a living and what political affiliation do you have? '
The biker replies, 'I'm a U. S. Marine and a Republican.'
The following morning the biker buys The New York Times to see if it
indeed brings news of his actions, and reads, on front page:
'U. S. MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS LUNCH'

Posted by: Wilder do | August 24, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

O-bots treat us Hilary supporters like were pariahs because we were the first to call their precious hope and change a "fairy tale". It's a good ad by McCain because its clear we're not wanted in the Democratic party. Dean and Donna Brazile has said as much, and all you have to do is read the comments here. HRC has never been offered anything.

The good news is this will all be over in, what, ten weeks? Then Obama's loss will be blamed on his failure to pick HRC and she will be stronger than ever, and Dean and the "netroots' will be back in their mom's basement.

Posted by: Tristan | August 24, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

JohnnyReb:

Your Democratic party is already destroyed.

They lost l8 million members because they railroaded Clinton and gave thousands of Michigan's popular votes and pledges to Obama.

The superdelegates are supposed to endorse the candidate who can defeat their Republican opponent. That's Clinton. Look at the polls. Obama and McCain are virtually tied.

With Bush leaving this country in shambles, Obama should be in high double digits ahead of McCain. And Obama isn't.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA: Everybody's watching what's going on in Beijing right now in the Olympics. Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are all vastly superior to us now, which means if you're a corporation deciding where to do business, you're starting to think Beijing looks like a pretty good option.

Last time I was in China I noticed all these huts built over the rivers, it was their BATHROOMS.. They sh*t and pee right into their rivers.. That infrastructure is really doing great.. NOT. The moron needs to go to other places than BERLIN.

And anyway, there he goes again running down the United States.

Posted by: What a Joke | August 24, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I hope McCain picks Lieberman. CT can't get rid of that guy soon enough! I can't wait to boo him again during the labor day parade. What a clown that guy is. McCain, please raise your hand (ABOVE YOUR HEAD) if you agree.

Posted by: Zuq | August 24, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain has ruled out "use of force" in the Georgia/Russia conflict.

Mr. McCain also presented the fastest and best response to the issue:

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/thinkingright/entries/2008/08/15/mccain_showed_best_how_to_reac.html

Posted by: Marcus | August 24, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

To Zuq and all the other people in need of a clue:

If you think that Obama/Biden can win this race by running against "McBush," please - by all means - continue to set yourself up for big fall.

At least McCain knows he's running against Obama, not "Obamaton" or "Hillarack" or some other mythical candidate. This is a presidential election, people, and I suggest that if you're really serious about putting a Democrat in the White House, you stop running against a fantasy-fullfillment candidates more reflective of your insecurity, and one whose name won't be in the ballot box.

Oops, what am I doing? Obama's real nemesis is "McBush!" Let him keep on taking the eyes off the ball!

Posted by: Paul | August 24, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

ELITIST + EGOTIST = an MT suit and a lot of hot air LOL

Democrats - why get angry. Use your vote wisely :)

Vote for McCain ; HRC in 2012

Registered Democrat for McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Heidi | August 23, 2008 11:26 PM "Obama bin Biden"

I see this posted across many blogs. Either Heidi is busy on many sites or this is a talking point for Republican trolls.

I say that Obama when President will not be Biden (as in biding) his time to get Bin Laden. Unlike Bush and McCain. Oh wait, there is still some time before end of term for Bush. Maybe they will find him in only what? 7 years?

Posted by: Paul Stewart | August 24, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

If you like $4.00 a gallon gas, perpetual war, the rich getting richer paying less taxes and the middle class dissolving and paying more taxes. If you want more of your right eroded and you want to have babbling hothead with his finger on the red button, vote for McCain. If you want peace and prosperity and to restore our respect with the rest of the world, vote Obama-Biden.

Posted by: Bill | August 24, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Because experience as an American Public Servant counts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0GeVdrPxSw

Posted by: Leroy | August 24, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

We need to be saved from Iran because they have WMD's like Iraq.

Does McCain and his mongols think that we don't read? Have they heard of the internet. We are all connected. The fear won't work this time.

Posted by: Zuq | August 24, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

From just looking at the picture of the Obama's and the Biden's, appears some wife-swapping may occur in the future. They are very happy together. Should Jill Biden be kissing Hussein on the lips? And OLD joe appears ready to rumble with Michelle.

Posted by: Rhonda | August 24, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

McCain has become a perfect puppet for the right-wing Republicans. Hilary supporters need to stop crying and back the man she said to. Do Hilary and all of America a favor by voting Obama and she will probably be given an important position where she can work for all of us. If Obama loses Hilary's political career is basically done. McCain is not the answer and anyone who actually thinks about this emotions aside will make the right choice come election day.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: chris | August 24, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

"And this is going to get me health care how? Keep me safe from Iran how? Get me job oppurtunities[sic] how?"

Hey JN, why do you need to be kept safe from Iran?

Posted by: lux | August 24, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

"Hillary will NOT be destroying our party." Uh, JohnnyReb, do you mean she will not destroy our party? Or did you really mean to say "she not 'be' destroying our party". Of course she won't, it's Dean,Pelosi, Brazille and Obama that have taken care of that. Senator Clinton and her loyal supporters will not be responsible for what Baracky and his wacko supporters have done and they have every American right to protest.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

here's an attack line to use to get the DU and Kos People worked up

Biden voted for Iraq
Biden voted for NAFTA
Biden supports sanctions on Cuba
Biden continues to support the PATRIOT act

Posted by: Bye BO | August 24, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Visit BarackObama.com for more info.

Give me the same about McCain please.

Posted by: J | August 24, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Here's Biden making fun of 7-eleven and the eastern Indian people... to an eastern-Indian!!

Brilliant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU

WOW, real agent of change there!

Posted by: Guillian | August 24, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Jhonny Reb...Hillary has no intention to destroy your party....Obambi already did.

Vote for McCain in November ; HRC in 2012

Registered Democrat for McCain :)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Josie,
Obama made money from his books. Take a look at Barack's past. He could have easily get a job in Wall Street, but his past work explains the movement for change.

Posted by: Zuq | August 24, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Pyper:

Elevate my thinking process.

Please give me Obama's specific policy positions on the economy, foreign affairs, energy, veterans, education, health, social security, and any other policy positions you'd care to discuss.

One qualifier - Obama's specific policy positions TODAY.

Posted by: J | August 24, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Tell your kids....

SAY NO to OBAMA BIN BIDEN '08

Posted by: Willy | August 24, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Hope, are you making stuff up? Dissed the working class? Come on? Who wants to build our infrastructure? Barack! Who wants to stop tax breaks for the rich? Barack! What's McCain's plan for the working class? He'll have his staff get back to you on that.

Posted by: Zuq | August 24, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

OB's choice speaks volumns about his abilities in critical thinking and decisions. This is good for the McCain chances. Biden has been in the Senate longer than even McCain; so much for the agent of change! Biden suffers from an acute case of hoof-n-mouth disease and an ego bigger than Delaware. The run up to the elections will be absolutely delicious with all the gaffes and stumbles. Between OB and Biden it is going to be a hoot.

Posted by: Ha ha | August 24, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Vote for McCain

Posted by: AsBee | August 24, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

McCain's income last year, about $400K

Obama's income last year, about $4 MILLION


Obama - 2 children and a MANSION in Chicago - with the help of convict Tony Rezko

McCain - 7 Children and a house for each, so what? Is this illegal?

Posted by: Josie | August 24, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

'Obama Decries Lobbyist Cash; Biden Has Reaped It In'

Posted by: Bbo | August 24, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

If faux democrats show up or disruptive Hillbots they need to be dealt with. If they want to demonstrate a mile or two away from the convention, fine. That's the republican way and they can abide by it. If they show to intentionally riot, they can see what a rubber bullet feel like. Hillary will NOT be destroying our party.

Posted by: Johnny Reb | August 24, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

McCain's politics are slimy. This ad is slimy. It just gives me a really gross feeling.

Obama-Biden 2008

Posted by: Chris Stewart | August 24, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

"Hillary supporters there is no 2012! Our time is now and our candidate is Obama so quit your whining."


Whoa partner, I don't smoke crack, thanks.

I'll be voting for true leadership, I'll be voting for McCain this time around.


Posted by: Michael | August 24, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

McBush on war - Fight till we win. What's win? Haven't we lost enough of our soldiers? More then the WMD's.
McBush on economy - I have 7 homes.
McBush on Healthcare - No Plan
McBush on gas prices - Offshore drilling. Yet, we the citizens don't own that oil. Do you really think you'll see it for $1 per gallon because of offshore drilling?
McBush on Tax breaks - Tax breaks to off-shore our jobs and the rich. I guess that's over $5 mill per year. The middle class make less than $5 mill.
McBush and his past - http://www.google.com/search?q=mccain+and+organized+crime&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Posted by: Zuq | August 24, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters there is no 2012! Our time is now and our candidate is Obama so quit your whining. Were you only voting for her just because she is a woman? Her policies and initiatives are what is important.

If McCain wins the White house now then Hillary is cooked in the Senate for two reasons. #1 She failed to deliver her supporters to the parties nominee and #2 She will not accomplish anything in the Senate because McCain plans to continue the Bush doctrine of obstruction and VETO.

Posted by: John | August 23, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Siig Heel doesn't fly here buddy, US AMERICAN SERVICEMEMBERS AND ALLIES already BEAT THE TAR OUT OF THE AXIS FORCES OF EVIL AND HITLER'S DOOMED IDEAL. Read your history book... we are free because regular people died for us to be that way.

Exit the concert and show some respect for America and what it stands for.

Posted by: Milano | August 23, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

the comments on the Washington posts are so out there its incredible... It ranges from chatty cathy's... to paid spammers... To 3rd graders calling each others mom fat. With all of these comments maybe something like 2 had anything to do with what anybody would consider important in actually measuring a candidate.. USA!! USA!! where 75% of us are a bunch of petty, pride filled morons... Beautiful one more time for the ol'USA!!!

Posted by: erik | August 23, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

To Hilary Smith
Apparently you didn't hear Obama insulting the working class people. It isn't about race, get over it, not everything is about race. People can choose a candidate based on the way they are treated by the candidate. Obama dissed the working class group. This is what he said, “It’s not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or antitrade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” If you were treated like that, you wouldn't like him either, and it has nothing to do with race. They probably believe, and rightly so, that Obama will not represent them because he has nothing but contempt for them.
And oh by the way, the wealth that a candidate does or does not have, has nothing to do with whether a candidate can represent well. Look at Thomas Jefferson, who by standards of the day was very wealthy and helped write a document that is allowing us to have this discussion. And what about Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who was also very wealthy and brought this country out of poverty. And what about John Kennedy, whose family is far more wealthy than McCain. I am not a McCain supporter, but Obama and his supporters are making it very hard to accept him as the next president. Every time a voter disagrees with Obama, it must be because of racism. Nope its because he is an intolerant, self-righteous elitist.

Posted by: Hope | August 23, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

As a Hillary Fan, trust me. I will with all of my other Hillary Fans vote for Barack-Biden. McCain is a noun, verb, and POW. What else is this guy about? How is he going to help the economy? Didn't he say he was going to balance the budget in 4 years. How will he do that while fighting the world. He doesn't get it! Barack Baby!

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Offshore drilling is a joke. The United States doesn't own that oil and even if we did, we don't have a nationalized oil system. The oil belongs to whoever pulls it out of the ground, which is Exxon/Mobil, Conoco/Philips, etc. If you think they'll sell that oil for any less than market value, you're delusional. We can't put enough oil on the market to affect the price. We need electric cars, solar and wind power and only then will we cripple the Middle East.

Posted by: Uhuru | August 23, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama won't go and see our troops when they're injured, maybe he thinks they deserve their injury (like Pastor Wright said).

Obama also won't commit to a political event at a military base:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/12/us/politics/12obama.html

Soldiers and Service-members are ordinary people who make an extraordinary in our country - the ability to be free!

Pay the dues, then try to run for president.

Posted by: Milano | August 23, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I what to take this country away from the white people and give it to the black people because of our past. You know that as black people we cannot move on we have to keep bring up the past and not look to the future.
I am for change. I want to change this country from freedom to Socialist, I have to you people are not smart enough on your own. You know that I am the smartest man to ever live, that is why I want to change the change for the change that we made for a change. So come on and vote for change.

Posted by: Bracka Obama | August 23, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Dear bloggers, please turn off your computers and make a list of the 5 most important issues facing the country and what you want to do about them, if you can even think through that process. Then read and research the candidates' positions and their records. Then vote. If you can't take those simple steps then you are not really a citizen and democracy is wasted on you. Most of the comments on this page are beyond pathetic. Most of you are an embarassment to your country and your community and to the resources that were wasted on your eductaion. Please don't come back to this page or any other to spew your ignorant garbage.

Posted by: Whatsamattayou | August 23, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

To Johnny Reb, should the Democratic Party learn to click its heals and say in unison "Sieg Heil". Last I heard this is still the United States of America. And not the Obama Nation. I'm not sure that it isn't the so called Obama supporters who are trying to sabatoge his chances, not those who are Hillary supporters...

When all this Obama drama passes perhaps the Democratic Party will learn a valuable lesson.

Posted by: Mi Voter | August 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Two can play at this game..

Barry on war - I surrender
Barry on economy - see Jimmy Carter
Barry on Healthcare - the gov. always does
a better job
Barry on gas prices - inflate your tires
Barry on Tax breaks - LOL
Barry and his past - convicted felons,
domestic terrorists
race-baiters
etc.

Your turn Zuq.

Posted by: Quz | August 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

The Hillary Fans are not the problem. It's the McCain war mongols claiming to be Hillary supporters and pretending that they would support McCain? Why would they support McCain? There's not one thing in common.

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Francis D.,

Not dying, not going away, kicking your sorry a$$.

Posted by: cosby26 | August 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

The reason Hillary supporters are not supporting Obama is because he is not qualified to lead our Country.

Plus his ties to Chicago politics, Rezko, Ayres, Rev. Wright, Fr. Pfleger, etc. I didn't even mention his flip-flops and Obama even voted for Bush bills that McCain didn't vote for.

The DNC gave Hillary's pledged delegates to Obama along with the popular votes. The superdelegates were strong-armed by Brazile, Dean, Pelosi and Reid. The DNC did it because they are $20 million in debt and Obama bought them.

I learned this week that Caroline Kennedy endorsed Obama because he promised her the Ambassadorship to England. She's never been involved in politics, I was wondering why she came out of the woodwork.

Well, those are 18 million votes that Obama isn't getting.

And as far as some bloggers saying they were Hillary supporters and now supporting Obama, I don't believe them. I think their Obama's paid bloggers.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Can someone answer this question? If McCain is pro-life, how come war of 100 years is OK? Is it OK to kill after someone is born? Anyone have an answer?

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lili | August 23, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

As far as I'm concerned Die-hard Hillary supporters may DIE .. the HARD way, then get out of our way, OK?

Posted by: Francis D. | August 23, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm 100% independent. I hate the two party system and couldn't care less about republicans or democrats. It's shocking to me that this race is even close.

In McCain we have one of the worst presidential candidates of my lifetime (32 yeas). The guy has sold his soul to the devil. Never before has a candidate so undeniably been bought and paid off by big business. There was a time (2000) when McCain was a respectable guy. Sadly that time has come and gone.

In Obama we have one of the most intriguing candidates. He's not just a good public speaker, he's an intelligent dude. He comprehends the complexity of the world and is capable of distinguishing all the grey areas between the black and the white. And while his intelligence is his greatest strength, it's also his greatest weakness. Far too many Americans simply aren't capable of understanding the depth in which he exists. Most common people are simple minded folk. They want to view issues as one way or the other....black or white.

I wish their was a way to elevate the thinking processes in this country b/c until we do, we will continue to elect the wrong guy. We will continue to head in the wrong direction. We will continue to waste our resources and we will continue to lose our sons, daughters, husbands, wives, and friends in unjustifiable wars intended to transfer wealth from the American people to the corporate interests that have been robbing and raping us for years.

If eight years of Bush hasn't taught Americans anything, then they deserve the misery and turmoil that McCain will bring.

At some point in life, people need to learn from their mistakes....Even the simple folk, especially the simple folk.

...and the Pyper shall lead us to reeeeason.

Posted by: Pyper | August 23, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Now Alan, you really know who the next Bush is. It's the guy that says that the economy has grown under Bush. It's the guy that supported Bush 95% of the time. It's the guy that admitted that nobody support Bush when going to War in Iraq more than him. That guy? Yes, Ol' Man McCain.

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Johnnyred,

How 'bout we kick you in the nuts and call it a day, a$$wipe.

Posted by: vicsmith | August 23, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Quincy | August 23, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I think that all Hillary backers who are truthfully Democrats and who have a stick of common sense will follow Hillary's direction. The zealots that are saying that they will vote for her despite her directions otherwise are neither Hillary supporters nor Democrats. They are clearly a Republican front. Remember the Republicans crossing over in the primaries to support Hillary? Well this is the same slime ball, political terrorism. And, it will fail again. Because these people that are doing this were never in Hillary's camp for the right reasons. They were there to get her the nomination, and then, they would have moved to McCain. Hillary is no fool. She understands this. Don't be surprised to have her call these people out.

Posted by: Paul Stewart II | August 23, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Can someone answer this question? If McCain is pro-life, how come war of 100 years is OK? Is it OK to kill after someone is born?

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alan | August 23, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain just old man 4 know nothing 8 rich food for rich people.

Posted by: Obama rocks | August 23, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Read for yourself. I'm not making this up. There are thousands of articles about it.

http://www.google.com/search?q=mccain+and+organized+crime&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

The convention will be supporting Obama. If a contingent of Hillary crazies think they can hijack the convention, there's already huge holding pens for them to cool down in. The Hillbots are nuts in the same league as the moonies or the Manson Family. I say if they get out of line, tase'em, hit'em with the water cannon, zip tie their wrists and ankles and kick'em into the concentration camp.

Posted by: Johhny Reb | August 23, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Get out of Grandma's basement and come up for some fresh air. Peruse something other than DailyKos, Huff Poo and take a DEEP breath.

So now you are claiming that Cindy McCain is involved in organized crime?

You are Pathetic.

Posted by: Hey Zuc | August 23, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

The Real Hillary supports will vote for Barack. No Hillary supporter will vote for McCain. Anyone that believes that is smoking something illegal.

Posted by: Real Hillary Fan | August 23, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Kiley | August 23, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Wilder5121 wants "change" and an intelligent President for once. First of all, let's see: Bush and Obama take care of their rich friends. Bush and Obama have done some very shady things to get into office and stay there. Bush and Obama want to spend our tax dollars like crazy. Bush and Obama are lightweights on immigration. Bush played nice guy with North Korea while they took our money and continued their nuke program in Syria, and Obama wants to hang out at the Iranian crib and said Georgia was wrong for being attacked by Russia. Bush lied about Iraq, Obama lied about his votes on live-birth abortions, lied to Israel about which committee he's on, repeatedly lied about McCain's stance on Iraq, lied about taking public financing (instead expecting hard-working citizens to fund his campaign in what he calls the worst economy we've ever seen), lied about taking PAC and Union money, and lied about oil executive's financing of his campaign. the way I see it, Bush and Obama have a ton in common!

As far as uh, the uh, intelligence, have you uh, heard Obama uh, actually, uh, speak? Just because uh, he has a deep uh, er, uh voice, and he practiced cadence, uh, tone, and uh, well, uh tries to imitate MLK when he has a speech written for him, uh, doesn't make him intelligent. He, uh, can't speak without uh, a teleprompter, and uh, repeatedly shows he uh, doesn't know enough to be uh, President. He uh, heck, uh, even thinks there are 57 state in America!

Posted by: Jeremy | August 23, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Better get off the Daily Kos talking points and koolaid... It is BORING

Posted by: Hey Zuc | August 23, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

I actually heard Rush for the first time and turned it off in 1 minute. Is that guy really that ignorant? Everyone has heard about Obama and Rezko. Not everyone has heard about McCain and the organized crime link. That explains how he got 7 homes!

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Here's Obama's response to the 300 million dollar question:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/07/obama-america-is-no-longer-what-it-once-was/

Biden as VP? So much for a "change" in washington. The Biden pick was
all about Obama being shaken up by McCain, now he's hired an antique
politician (not a changer or glorious hope-giver) to fight back:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis

Is this guy really qualified for the job?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

Posted by: Barron | August 23, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Hilary Smith,

McCain would be better than Obama for working people. Both Obama and McCain claim to want an alternative energy strategy, but in the meantime, while those technologies are being developed, securing more energy, especially in the form of oil, is the only real way to bring gas prices down.

Worldwide demand will continue to increase - unless we want to tell the third world to stay poor and stop developing. So we MUST tap our own domestic sources of oil to increase supply and ease prices. Off shore drilling, ANWR, oil shale... we need to build new refineries(haven't built one in 30 years!), and ease restrictions on nuclear technology to increase energy supply. All of these things have been blocked by DEMOCRATS over the years, and it's the reason prices are so high now.

Yes, they say, "but it will take 7 - 10 years to get any oil!", but what kind of a ridiculous argument is that? We will be needing oil in 7 to 10 years, and demand will almost certainly be even higher then worldwide than it is now. Also, that's the same thing they said when Bill Clinton vetoed ANWR... had he not done that then, we'd be producing 1 million barrels more oil per day, and prices would be a good chunk lower at the pump now.

Finally, Obama has said he WANTS gas prices to be as high as they are now, as it will help the environment. He just wishes it hadn't happened so quickly as it was a shock to the people. He's said this a few times, notably on CNBC, which you can find on Youtube. Look it up. This guy said he WANTS $4 per gallon gas. Is that what you want?

Posted by: David | August 23, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Well the Obama drama was timed to further offend and show contempt for the Clinton supporters. Enough is enough! I am sick to death of a candidate for the democratic nomination treating half the party as though we are lepers, simply for supporting a woman for president. This arrogance will not stand come November... way to go to bring about party unity. We need stronger leadership in the Democratic Party and a process that deals with all this misplaced caucus mechanism.

Posted by: Mi Voter | August 23, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Re : Hillary Fans.
There are some dumb people out there wanting to tarnish Hillary's name by hiding behind her and pretending they are mad. The truth is I believe most of those are really NOT Hillary's supporters, they are just hacks...MCBush's hacks. The real Hillary supporters know what is good for this country and they WILL not vote McBush, trust me.

Posted by: dave | August 23, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

If we focus on the issues, no true Hillary Fan will vote for McCain. If people supported Hillary for what she believed in, they should vote for Barack. I'm a Hillary fan but will vote for Barack because my family can't survive 4 more years of Bush. There's no way!

The polls are false. Nobody I know was called. GO BARACK!

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Bye Bye Wilder Whacko, oops, Weirdo

Posted by: Wilder Whacko | August 23, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is pathetic and if Billary tries any shenanigans whatever political future they may have had will be over, unless they want to be republicans. Obama extended an olive branch to the Clinton's by having them speak, if they take advantage of it, they better find another country to move to. If the Hillbots try anything at the convention and the Clinton's do nothing to stop it, they will look like republican operatives.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain on War - 100 more years
McCain on Economy - "Not well versed"
McCain on Healthcare - Never heard him talk about it
McCain on Gas Prices - Take off gas tax and off-shore drilling. Not seeing the immediate fix.
McCain on tax breaks - To the rich and not the middle class
McCain and past - Fortune linked to organized crime

Anyone who really thinks McCain will run the country better than Barack? --- On Drugs!

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's focus on McCain. Has everyone googled "Obama and Rezko, Ayers, Acorn, etc, etc, etc."

Posted by: Rush Limbaugh | August 23, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

No doubt TPTB will start spewing "the Biden equals Obama's brain" garbage.

Say no to 4 more years and vote for real change - Cynthia McKinney!

Posted by: chriss | August 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Go Operation Chaos, can't wait to listen to Rush Monday.

Posted by: Obama NOT | August 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh Happy Day!!!!!! Obama with his lack of judgement just handed the Presidency to a well deserving John McCain. We are thrilled that Obama the Empty Suit chose Blowhard Biden. Excellent!!!!

The Obama bin Biden ticket is a sure loser. Two arrogant and egotistical fools together.....Brilliant choice!

Thank Goodness....only 60 plus days left and the Obama Messiah, his hateful wife and Joe Biden will be history.

Posted by: Tami | August 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Let's focus on McCain. Has everyone googled "McCain and organized crime"

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Looks like all the Republican hacks posting here learned their "wit" from the Rush Limbaugh School of Third-Grade Insults.

I have better things to do...like give my dog a bath.

Bye bye, Republican "wits".

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 23, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

If we focus on the issues, no true Hillary Fan will vote for McCain. If people supported Hillary for what she believed in, they should vote for Barack. I'm a Hillary fan but will vote for Barack because my family can't survive 4 more years of Bush. There's no way!

Posted by: Zuq | August 23, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh, it's all code.

Hillary is going to have her whips on the floor.

Bill is speaking.

Hillary already has superdelegates switching to her now that Obama's poll numbers are crashing.

Hillary will seize the nomination in Denver and take the presidency she is entitled to.

SN

Posted by: Sahara Nedd | August 23, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

This is change? Biden is old school Washington professional. I guess Obama was just flapping his gums with all his talk of change.
BOB BARR FOR REAL CHANGE!!!!!

Posted by: Dwayne | August 23, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Wilder ...real intellect you have there.

How about this one: Wilder Weirdo

HILARIOUS, huh?

Posted by: Wilder Weirdo | August 23, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama-flipflop-a-rama-lama-dingdong

Posted by: BOB | August 23, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Heidi...real intellect you have there.

How about this one: Heidi Ho

HILARIOUS, huh?

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 23, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Hilary Smith opines: "McCain is of the ruling-class and he will protect ruling-class interests, not the interests of the everyman."

The comrade is correct in her reasoning. However, I ask the comrade to consider that Obama has shown he will also protect the ruling-class' oppressive policies. For instance, Obama supports Bush's very questionable SPP.gov scheme:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/007494.html

The post was approved by the Central Committee.

Posted by: 24AheadDotCom | August 23, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Seems logical Obama would pick Biden over Hillary. Was he "listening" to the people's choice. Appears Biden was the choice in MSNBC's VP Tournament.

Now - do the Hillary supporters really want more of the same?

I'm a woman, over 50 and white. And I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, I don't want more of the same.

Posted by: Tough2Name | August 23, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama is nothing without his advisors and "surrogates." Every time he opens his mouth he’s either sticking his foot in or spewing some sort of incoherent gibberish. He’s a puppet. It absolutely blows my mind that Americans would be duped into four more years of this garbage.

Posted by: HSmith | August 23, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama bin Biden

Posted by: Heidi | August 23, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Many of these posts slamming Obama for not picking Hillary are obviously written by paid hacks for the McCain campaign. I'm not falling for it.

I voted for Hillary in the Primary and know that if Obama loses...her supporters who didn't vote for Obama will get the blame. And that, quite simply, will end her career in politics.

That, my friends, is EXACTLY what the Republicans want...and are trying to do.

I'm not about to do that to her. I look forward to her having a very prominent position in an Obama administration.

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 23, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Biden is great but Obama is still and empty suit. Delegates need to get smart and dump Obama and install Hilary for the win.

If Obama can't see his way to mend with Hilary then why should Hilary supporters mend with Obama?

Posted by: raoul | August 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

As far as this Democrat is concerned, Obama is way overdue a lesson in humility and good taste. We can all recall during the primary Obama's obvious silence when Hillary was mocked and ridiculed by the revolting Catholic priest at Obama's (former)church. The only sincere, public outrage over those sexist and revolting remarks that were aired over and over and over again by the media, came not from Obama, not from the DNC, not from her fellow Democratic candidates, not from the media -- but from Senator John McCain. So what if he's a Republican, at least he was a Gentleman and showed some integrity in his support of Senator Clinton! Obama has no class and I hope he loses this election big-time. He definitely does not have this woman's support!

Posted by: mpwynn | August 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Please can we fight on the issues.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Cheryl L | August 23, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's time to take off your SpongeBob mittens ObamaBaby. And hang the string that holds them together around your little pencil neck so you don't lose 'em. You wanted to play with the big boys, well the REAL playing won't start until after the Convention and you are the real nominee. We don't want to make the Supers go to Hillary, we like you because you are a lightweight.
Bring it on, you ain't gonna hurt McCain any. He's already been through hell, that kindergarten trash you got means nothing. Guarantee it.

Posted by: RoBoTech | August 23, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick of these "Hillary fans". We know you do not exist. You are rebublicans. Vote for McCain if you wish. You will need Barack's indorsement in 2016, so shut ...up.

Posted by: allec | August 23, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

helen in san diego -

maybe you can live with someone who is going to give you 8 more years of bush politics, hungry people, job losses, and high oil prices.

However many of us can NOT afford to live that way. Many of us are struggling to make ends meet and we need and deserve a change in our government.

Your stubborn refusal to join Hilary - after she came out and ASKED YOU as her supporters to support Obama AND Biden - is self-serving, arrogant, and stupid. It's also just a wee bit obsessive.

Posted by: houstonia | August 23, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain is correct. Like it or not, neither Hillary not Biden ever agreed that Obama is ready for presidency.

Posted by: Amy | August 23, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

biden, hillary & mccain are all losers who voted for war -- we're stuck with their losing ways no matter who wins

Posted by: herbert-de-turbot | August 23, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama and the "old media" have pummeled Americans with promises of change without telli ng us what he wants to change. I honestlt don't believe the man knows what he's talking about.
One thing is for sure. Obama did "pass over" Hillary. He was never going to give her a chance and the liberal "old media" covered him.
Now, Obama needs us, Hillary's supporters.
I'm voting McCain; at least I know where he's coming from. Obama? Who knows? His Church-of-Hate may be the most obvious clue.
Perhaps he would form a new cabinet position called Multicultural Relations and annoint Reverend Wright as minister.

Posted by: lclifton@etcmail.com | August 23, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama is an empty suit who is the Democratic nominee for the POTUS and doing something, all we are, are people sitting home blogging on a computer about people we really don't know discussing something we know nothing about, sideline know it alls. We're all pitiful myself included.

Posted by: Cheryl L | August 23, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Bill Clinton twice, and Hillary Clinton in the Primary.

If I wanted a loudmouth blowhard full of bluster...who'll get us into a few more wars and have to restart the draft to fill up our exhausted military with new cannon fodder, then send me the bill instead of his billionaire friends...I'd vote for McCain.

No thanks. I've had eight years of that...can't afford any more. I'll stick with Hillary and Bill and help elect an intelligent President for a change. I just sent in another contribution to Obama/Biden.

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 23, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a snotty jerk. What sane American could vote for this duplicitous a-hole? John McCain is not Bush light. He would be ten times worse. Want to take that risk?

Posted by: Raticus | August 23, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

That ad was dead on!!!

Obama will never win the presidency because even his supporters say they don't need Hillary's supporters, nor do they need the Liberal voters. Since he never had the votes of Middle America or women in general, this leaves him with... young people, elitists and African Americans. Sounds like a winning combination!

By choosing Biden, Obama has emulated George Bush's choice of Cheney, as someone who knows how to "work" Washington.
Now who's going to give you 4 more years of Bush?

Posted by: BJ | August 23, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Hillary knows why she was not selected, Bill and his baggage.

Posted by: Cheryl L | August 23, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

First of all I'm not a Republican but I agree with McCain on this Obama is arrogant and self serving, He is immature and that is the reason he did not put Hillary Clinton on the ticket. She definitely would have stole his thunder and he was afraid of that. Having said that I like Biden a lot much more than Obama. Biden has substance Obama is an empty suit.

Posted by: mimi | August 23, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

What explains a working-class person's decision to favor McCain over Obama? I just can't understand. McCain is of the ruling-class and he will protect ruling-class interests, not the interests of the everyman. Can someone explain to me how on earth, if not for racial prejudice, a working-class person can see fit to vote for McCain? Please share your reasoning.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 23, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

How many votes did Biden get? You bet we are mad!. McCain is middle of the road moderate, I can live with that till Hillary runs again and wins in a landslide.

Posted by: Helen in San Diego | August 23, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain is of the ruling-class and he will protect ruling-class interests, not the interests of the everyman. McCain cannot be trusted. If you’re a working-class person who cares about keeping a roof over his head, you’d better do yourself a favor and vote for Obama.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 23, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I love reader's comment "McCain and his campaign are in complete desperation mode".
Lets see, Obama has given up a double digit lead, Hillary Clinton will not be on the ticket, and a plagiarist made the cut?
Now that is something to be desperate about. Fact is, the Obama campaign blew off Clinton. Support her or not, she is a respected politician with enormous influence. And she could have made a very big difference. Clinton has been moched by numerous Obama aquaintances, from Obama's church leaders to rap stars. Someone's chickens have returned home to roost and it isn't Hillary's.

Posted by: DBC | August 23, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Remember that when Obama agreed to Clinton speaking at the convention and getting a roll call vote, the McCain flunkies came out and said this showed Obama's weakness. Had Obama picked Clinton, then that is all we'd be hearing: he's weak, he caved in to her, etc.

He didn't pick Clinton and they say he's dissing her because he can't take a punch.

You don't need to own somewhere between 7 and 12 houses to be able to see through this.

Posted by: patriot games | August 23, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

One House, One Spouse, Obama/Biden 08: http://www.cafepress.com/politics2go

Posted by: Nick | August 23, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the Democratic candidate. Lamenting the unfairness of Hillary’s defeat helps no one but John McCain. If you think she’s so great, I’m sure you’ll have another chance to vote for her come 2012. Maybe by then she’ll have decided to run a campaign with some integrity. For now, for the sake of our country, will the bitter Hillary people please let up?

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 23, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Ha-ha-ha-ha all you Obama kool-aid drinkers! Funny and accurate. You Obama robots all are just so blind!

Posted by: Kel | August 23, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Good ad.

Hillary with her 18 million votes, Biden just got 9800. I am plenty mad.

Posted by: concerned08 | August 23, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

That's the McCain I know!

Posted by: electress | August 23, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama Makes Fun of The Bible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

Posted by: InTheKnow | August 23, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Now Huckabee should demand to be placed on McCaine's ticket, because he won millions of votes and most of the South!

Posted by: Dawn | August 23, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to be very worried about vengeance from Hillary backers...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: mpp | August 23, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I suspect the McCain slime campaign would have ran these ads of Hillary criticism of Obama regardless if he chose her or not. McCain and his campaign are in complete desperation mode. Hillary's real supporters have gotten over her primary loss and have aligned themselves with the party.

Posted by: Clarence | August 23, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain is nothing without his advisors and "surrogates." Every time he opens his mouth he’s either sticking his foot in or spewing some sort of incoherent gibberish. He’s a puppet. It absolutely blows my mind that Americans would be duped into four more years of this garbage.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | August 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

And this is going to get me health care how? Keep me safe from Iran how? Get me job oppurtunities how?

The only thing worse then these pathetic ads are the people who fall for them.

That goes for both side of the isle

Posted by: JN | August 23, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

More defensive whining from the mccain camp. Hey McCain - how about a little more talk on the issues, and a little less on how much you dislike Obama.

Posted by: Julianne | August 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

So does this mean Huckabee in the running mate of choice for McCain? Really, does this type of ad tell me why i should VOTE FOR McCain? No because even his staff knows if a guy does not know how many house's he owns, well thats a problem.

Maverick, no. Say anything to get elected? Thats John McCain!


http://thoughtfromboston.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Al | August 23, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

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