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Ready to Rumble, Obama Hits the Trail

By Shailagh Murray
RENO, Nev. -- Back on the campaign trail after his Hawaii vacation, Sen. Barack Obama looked tanned, rested and ready to fight back.

Sen. John McCain had the news cycle to himself for the past 10 days, and in ads and on the stump he has honed an unflattering portrait of his Democratic opponent as a smooth-talking celebrity who isn't ready for White House duty. The Obama campaign suspects the McCain campaign has found its groove, and that early August could prove a precursor to a potentially rough-and-tumble fall.

So in the coming days, Obama will seek to answer McCain's Paris Hilton caricature with one of his own, portraying McCain as a special-interest controlled, George W. Bush lackey.

Speaking at a town hall meeting here, in his first session with voters since returning to the mainland Friday night, Obama first rebutted his opponent's blistering attack on his tax plan as a "recipe for economic disaster" that could "break your family budget." He dismissed McCain's domestic and foreign policy views as shaped by former lobbyists who now run his campaign. And he portrayed the new negative tone as a tired tactic that Republicans roll out every election cycle.

"Basically what John McCain's done is he's hired the same old folks who brought you George W., Bush. Same team. And it's the same strategy," Obama said. "They don't have something positive to say about what they're going to do for America, what they try to do is they say, well this other guy, he's unpatriotic. Or this other guy, he likes French people. That's what they said about (John) Kerry."

"They try to make it out like somehow Democrats aren't tough enough, or aren't macho enough. That's their strategy and they do it every four years," Obama continued. "And then you end up with what we've got right now. I've got news for John McCain. My plan's not going to bring about economic disaster. We already have economic disaster because of John McCain's president, George W. Bush."

As for the celebrity taint, Obama added, "The McCain campaign wants to make this election about me, because the issues aren't on their side.... Don't get fooled by Paris and Britney and nasty e-mails that folks are sending out. Don't get fooled by them. This election is about you. It's about us. And whether we are going to meet the challenges that lie before us."

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responded by noting that the "recipe for economic disaster" line came from a Las Vegas Review-Journal editorial that also criticized Obama's energy plan. "Barack Obama's plans to raise taxes on income, investments, Social Security and oil, while opposing domestic energy exploration, will only hurt economic growth, raise gas prices at the pump and further squeeze hardworking Americans," Rogers said.

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Gee it seemed to me that Obama was thoughtful in that interview that everybody keeps referring too. Not terribly entertaining, I'll admit. But thoughtfulness is a quality I want in a president.
McCain on the other hand was entertaining, but often incoherent, shooting from the hip, reacting before questions were finished being asked, But He was entertaining- in the way that old uncle who used to be a traveling salesmen, but whose had a few drinks too many and is a bit senile is- a lot of fun at thanksgiving, but I wouldn’t want him doing a job that requires prudence, and seriousness, and full command of intelligent faculties.
LuX

Posted by: lux lumina | August 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse


ceflynline@msn.com
What?? Keep your nuclear waste in your own state. Every nuclear plant needs to have its own local containment, bottom line. Tranportation of nulclear waste puts every state on the route in mortal danger. As John McCain says, "Transporting nuclear waste is way ok, just not in MY state.
Posted by: no nukes in Nevada"

Bad news. no nukes, go find out about Sedan. What you already have is enough roentgen equivalent men scattered on those flats, playas, mountains, and ranges to do in most of your state. And what us down under those craters, (963? I think I read that number right) Is every nuclear nightmare, mostly entombed.

Nevada could decide that it has enough locations where it couldn't possibly get worse, especially that mess of neatly aligned craters around Frenchman and Jackass Flats, that it might as well get paid for it. Nevada COULD be the power source for everything west of the front Range, using the wastes and remnants of the worlds MAD. Safely. Cleanly.

By the way, that stuff is going in somebody's back yard, and the Nevada Test range is Uncle Sam's back yard. I learned in basic training to see the lousy assignment coming, volunteer for what I wasn't going to be able to avoid, and in so doing earn the good will I needed to get things that the "I never volunteer for nuttin' " types never figured out how to get.

Yucca Mountain is a done deal. Might as well figure out how to use that fact to get rich, 'cause you ain't gonna make it go away.

What would Nevada be like if an extra cubic mile of rain fell up in the mountains every year?

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 18, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Who is lying?

http://www.snopes.com
http://www.factcheck.org

Do you like being lied to?

Posted by: KD11 | August 18, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

If a Vietnamese pilot had somehow bombed one of our cities, killed a few hundred people, and destroyed our homes, and then was shot down and captured by civilians,- do you think for a minute that he would even had made it to a POW camp?

I find the story about the guard drawing the cross in the sand quite unbelievable. It is right out of the "Gulag Archipeligo" as told by Alexander Solzenitzen.

Viet-Nam was not a conflict between religions. It was an attempt by the United States to stick its nose into the old French-Vietnamese colonial conflict and impose its will on another foreign nation. Has anything really changed?

If I hear John McCain say “my friends” one more time or have him retell one of his old war stories again, I’m simply going to mute the television when his face appears on the screen.

I don’t think he revealed anything about himself in rehashing all his sound bytes, stump speeches, and saying “drill here, drill now.” That’s the last thing that is going to bring oil prices down.

The man is obviously living in the past and has no intention of addressing the economic problems facing our country or resolving the differences that we have with our neighbors in the rest of the world- at least in a peaceful way.

Viet-Nam Veteran
United States Air Force 1963-1968

Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | August 18, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Someone s quotes 'Inside Edition' as a news source?
Have you ever watched it? Its the Hollywood National Enquirer for television.

Only a person with an IQ below 30 would appear on this Hollywood gossip with serious information. Next he'll say the Martians are planning an attack on Earth.

Consider the source. I thought Larry King was bad. Someone is really desperate to get on TV.

Posted by: KR | August 18, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

There are many babyboomers who were against the Vietnam War totally and so when john brings it up again and again and again he is walking a slippery slope get over yourself buster. And your comment about blood and honor get a grip my FRIEND it simply stupifies me to hear the same old politics and I am aiming this at you John McCain.

Posted by: I would like to tell McCain something. | August 18, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree McCain pretty much is stay the same. But what is the talking robot Obama who can deliver only the same speech slightly altered over and over ad nauseum saying anything of any substance?


What I have yet to see is where Obama has any concrete idea of what he wants to do about anything because its changes so often and it never EVER has the slightest detailed content to it.

Just meaningless lofty statements like I'll provide 50,000 jobs or whatever he claims. Doing what at government expense? Eating? Oh green energy, another meaningless buzzword. The guy doesn't know a watt from a joule but he says 'green' real convincingly. All power sources combusts or react something and provides waste products. Thanks to idiots like Al Gore, carbon dioxide has been declared a 'pollutant' although all living things consume it or produce it. Ethanol? It produces when you burn it, besides getting very minimal energy out of it. The idiot public has figured out it takes a lot of corn or soybean or grain to produce a small amount of it, thus competing with feed for animals drivng costs up along with the transportation. This country is the biggest bunch of whining ignorant little children who think some 'great new hope' who knows nothing except to blather without ever saying something is going to push some button and all will be well. What the hell do you think burning alcohol, does? They are hydrocarbons like oil. The biochemical bonds just don't have much energy like petroleum products. Alcohol doesn't exactly burn like gasoline or kerosene.

MCCain's no genius, but I have yet to see that Obama knows anything about anything except a few buzz words:Change, Unity (that's been dropped) Green. I have yet to see he gas the ability to understand anything of any complexity. His world is the world of sound bites. What else is necessary for a community organizer. Speaking talent of the same things. Not a lot pf knowledge or reasoning ability. Kind of like our superintendent when I worked for the federal government. Like Obama, he thought he was an expert on everything because he could mumble a few buzzwords on many things while not understanding what they meant whatsoever. All mouth, no substance. Typical guy who has only worked in the government. TThey get promoted to management positions to get them out of the way of the few who actually know something. However the latter people get ridden like mules, get nothing and give up.

Just spew the party line and pretend you came up with it.


I'm sorry, Halliburton may not be ethical but at least they produce something (I'm not talking about government contracts). The government can't produce anything but crap and then spend millions telling you how you great it smells.

Yea, I have a lot of faith in a know-nothing like Obama (and the vasty majority of Congress who are the same kind of creature) is going to solve any problem much less a technically complicated one.

Sorry You need competent people to do that not one who can say 'change' , 'green' and 'unity' and that's about it.

And the public thinks these 'debates' or interviews actually mean something. Of course they do, after all;, NBC,CBS, ABC, FOX and CNN tell you they are important and they can't tell, lies can they?

Children.

The educational industry, a product of the corrupt, incompetent government, has assured that the US can no longer produce anything of value, nobody knows anything of use, and what's worse, is too ignorant to realize it.

But as we said at work, just declare success even though you failed miserably and move-on. Saw that a lot. People don't bother to question it, as well as the digital money keeps flowing at the expense of the few remaining competent, productive people in the US.


We could try to import more Chinese scientists and engineers, but I think their job prospects are better back there at home, even if the pay isn't as good at the moment.

Posted by: KR | August 18, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

It is time to take a stand against Republican corruption!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
"“McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona.”

Email it to everybody on your email lists. Call your local newspapers and politicians and tell them that we are not having Murder Inc. living in the White House and running the free world!

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 18, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, he didn't hear or see any of it, but that isn't saying he didn't know the questions. Very lawyerly answer which doesn't exclude his campaign aides feeding him the questions.

He was way way to ready for those questions! This is the guys that can't pull off a public speaking gig to save his life...

Posted by: Mike in Sac | August 18, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

RY EVER WORKED?

Posted by: CHERYL L. EASTER | August 18, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Dear Toxic Avenger,

There's hardly a post from you where you don't use the word 'liberal' as if it's akin to child-molesting. The definitioin of a liberal is, according to the OED, someone who is 'free of prejudice' or an act that is 'worthy of a free man' or 'free in bestowing'. Pray, tell me, closet head, to which of these do you object and which of them should I be ashamed of?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Oh God how funny! I can just see His Total
Arrogance,Der Leader of the Marxist Socialist Democrat Liberal Losers Wimpy
Barack Hussein Obama out waving his beat up
peace flower and reading his teleprompter
non stop as he snorts coke and whines about
John McCain kicking Obama's stupid yellow
coward peacenik butt! No Way OBAMA in 2008
Or EVER! John McCain will win easily!

One More Independent Voter Against Obama!

Posted by: Sandy5274 | August 18, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

He may be ready to rumble, but he will still lose in Nov.
PUMA

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Let me guess, she is black. We know Hillary's base are bigots

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Now that it's obvious that McCain is mobbed up and can't win it becomes easier to ask the key question: why is is that Hillary's white women have never come to the defense of Michelle Obama as she has faced some of the most vicious attacks a prospective First Lady has ever faced.

The answer: you people should be ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. She made one little slip, said the same stuff that McCain said about being proud, and you WHITE WOMEN didn't defend her. Why? Why? Why?

I'll tell you why! (Well, I won't. But the smart ones amongst you know why, and you should be ASHAMED for standing by and letting a GOOD LADY GET ABUSED.)

Posted by: I'm Just Askin; | August 18, 2008 2:06 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Barry got pummeled by McCain Saturday night. "Now the Barry campaign is trying to smear McCain by saying he knew the questions in advance. How desperate and frightened they are. This from a man who never answered the 1st question during the Dem primary debates. There’s no evidence that McCain had any such advantage. But the fact that Barry's people made this suggestion means they know McCain outperformed him."

Posted by: Jack Straw

Jack, you don't know straw about what you're talking about. Your yahoo instincts are on view for all to see, calling the candidate "Barry," as if that's demeaning. You aren't worthy to lick the man's shoes; your mind is as small as a microbe's anal pore.

Posted by: edwcorey

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Another of the "not highly educated" cult members who is a racist. How surprising. Will have to teach the ignorant again. This bozo is supporting Barry and doesn't know the origins of his name. How surprising. Barry is the NAME on his birth certificate. You got that? Barry was the name, he chose HIMSELF, he went by in his youth when the 1/2 white part of him wanted to be all white. Got it?
What about that do you not comprehend?

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 18, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

McCain, Corsi, Bush, Rove, Cheney, Ingraham, Hannity, O'reilly and Limbaugh. Pretend it's 1865- on which side of the slavery question do these people come down? Pretend it's 1932 and they all live in Germany- Do they join the Nazi party or not? This is the real America, not Hannity's America- Surely we can do better than this.

Posted by: david in CT | August 18, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 17, 2008 9:35 PM

Dear TK, being around as many arrogant doctors as yourself, I would have to challenge your belief that you're smarter than a "hick". And if you want to compare religious backgrounds, Osama Obama spent over 20 years with this man of hate, was introduced to politics by a radical terrorist and was brought up into politics, in all places, Chicago. McCain has NOTHING on the Messiah. It's funny how elitists snobs like yourself are so totally clueless about the realities of the world, but maybe I should cut you a break, since that's what you have been given your total "adult" life-a break. Imagine no liberals, what a wonderful world it would be.

_________________________________________

OK Toxic,
Here's another view.
I grew up in a Republican home. We went to church when we were young, and we heard the "N" word on a regular basis. I am not college educated, I am the product of the public school system. I have worked full time since I was 19, never for a union affiliated organization. I am no elitist.
I will vote for Obama. Not because of his color, or his preacher, or his religion. I really don't care one bit about that. The Republicans have brought shame on this great country for the past 8 years. I don't see any difference in anything John McCain is pedaling. Same failed policies, same tax cuts for the rich, same reliance on military intervention instead of diplomacy. It's all the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. It's time for a change. John McCain is not it. I wan a smart president. We have been a laughingstock long enough. It's time to get serious.

Posted by: Biggirl | August 18, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Barry got pummeled by McCain Saturday night. "Now the Barry campaign is trying to smear McCain by saying he knew the questions in advance. How desperate and frightened they are. This from a man who never answered the 1st question during the Dem primary debates. There’s no evidence that McCain had any such advantage. But the fact that Barry's people made this suggestion means they know McCain outperformed him."

Posted by: Jack Straw

Jack, you don't know straw about what you're talking about. Your yahoo instincts are on view for all to see, calling the candidate "Barry," as if that's demeaning. You aren't worthy to lick the man's shoes; your mind is as small as a microbe's anal pore.

Posted by: edwcorey | August 18, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Its time for the Democrats to grab the center stage by talking about what people really care about - how we are going to get out of this economic mess that the Republicans have put us in. It is so simple - McCain has nothing new to offer, just more of Bush-a-nomics, more deregulation, and more to the wealthy few and to corporations and less to the rest of us. One cant do much about stupid people who will vote against their own self interest, but there are more people in America who dont care about McCains war stories and good old POW stories and more interested in someone who lives in the here and now and not in the past and not in a priviledged cocoon. Out of touch, out of office.
If this is the most important election in decades then lets get to the issues.

Posted by: nclwtk | August 18, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Barry got pummeled by McCain Saturday night. Now the Barry campaign is trying to smear McCain by saying he knew the questions in advance. How desperate and frightened they are. This from a man who never answered the 1st question during the Dem primary debates. There’s no evidence that McCain had any such advantage. But the fact that Barry's people made this suggestion means they know McCain outperformed him.

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Pastor Rick Warren said John McCain didn’t hear any of the questions in advance at Saturday night’s Civil Forum, even if the candidate was a little late arriving to the pre-arranged quiet room or “cone of silence.”

At the beginning of the forum at California megachurch, Warren told the crowd and TV audience, “I'm going to ask identical questions to each of these candidates, so you can compare apples to apples. Now, Senator Obama is going to go first. We flipped a coin, and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence.”

But at 8 p.m. ET, as Warren said that, McCain was actually not in the building. He was just leaving his hotel, with his motorcade arriving at the church nearly a half hour into the event. A. Larry Ross, a spokesman for Warren, says McCain then went directly into the holding room they dubbed the “cone of silence” (in reality, a room with no TV or audio).

Some questioned whether that late arrival might have allowed McCain to hear some of the questions being first posed to Obama.

Warren told CNN Sunday evening, “we flat out asked him” if he heard any of the questions. The McCain campaign “confirmed that McCain did not hear or see any of the broadcast” in the motorcade or after he arrived, Ross said.

When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: "We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV."

Warren said, “I trust the integrity of both” candidates, and said he “knew they would abide by the rules.” He joked McCain may not have been in the cone of silence, but “he was in the cone of a Secret Service motorcade”.

Ross says the whole event only came about because of the relationship Warren has with both men. He said they all agreed to assure a “level field, “McCain would not hear the questions or Senator Obama’s answers.” The pastor spoke to each candidate this week, giving the general themes. Warren decided to tell them each the first two questions in advance, about the three wisest people you know, and the biggest moral failings.

For their part, an Obama spokesperson told CNN’s Mike Roselli they are not pursuing whether McCain heard any of the other questions. They say they assuming McCain had the same information they did.
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...so let me get this correctly....McCaint had lost the "coin toss"....was 30 minutes late to a "live" broadcast...has his campaign staff by his side the "entire" time...and was never in the so called "cone of silence"......Sure......

More lies, more slogans, more deceit, more pandering, more talking points, more of the same RNC/GOP card holder crapola....

"Mr Friends"

"....The Candidate does not speak for the Campaign..."

Posted by: AlexP! | August 18, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

PLEASE WATCH AND SHARE WITH EVERYONE ASAP

“The Last 100 Days”
Hon. James David Manning, PhD.

http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr07-28-08.html

http://www.dontvoteobama.net

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

It's funny watching the "forum" on Saturday. Those silly evangelicals - they took it without vaseline from Bush, and will probably get the same treatment from mccain, but they keep bangin' their heads on the same wall. I've always thought that religious fervor comes with gullibility - they've proven me right time after time.

Posted by: J | August 18, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

w It has been a pretty cool summer, weather isw of course.

ALL THE HOT AIR HAS BEEN GATHERED BY OBAMA AND HIS ILK. WHEN HE RELEASES ALL THIS STORED UP HOT AIR, WATCH OUR AMERICA!

LADIES, GET THE VEILS READY, AND THE SOUP LINES SHOULD REALLY START ORGANIZING THEMSELVES!

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | August 18, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Harry Whittington...allow me to fix your typos:

The moonbats didn't see it coming in 2000 and 2004 with Bush Junior and they don't see it coming this time with McCain.

Lies, corruption, failure, loss of respect for America around the world, Bin Laden still free and Al Queda stronger than ever, biggest budget deficits in history, biggest national debt in history, $4 a gallon gas, worst economy since WWII, most foreclosures in fifty years, Hurricane Katrina incompetence, military bogged down and almost ruined, Afghanistan falling back into Taliban hands, $10 billion a month policing Iraq since an occupation wasn't planned for, Exxon making all-time record profits while GM, Ford, and Chrysler melt down, biggest outsourcing of American jobs to China and India in history, the US Constitution treated like a piece of garbage, failure to heed CIA warnings about 9/11, borders still wide open to terrorists, etc etc etc...

Some people never learn.

Posted by: wilder5121 | August 18, 2008 6:54 AM | Report abuse

The moonbats didn't see it coming in 2004 with Kerry and they don't see it coming this time with Obama.

Some people never learn.

Although I can't say I'm going to be thrilled with McCain as our next president, at least he's not a sociliast hack.

Posted by: Harry Whittington | August 18, 2008 6:42 AM | Report abuse

Your guy is going to win. Just freakin' chill, ok? I'm out.

Posted by: Don | August 18, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

CNN was notified of the time McCain entered the church but chose to ignore it. Instead they went on and on about how sharp McCain was in responding. It's obvious to everyone else that he knew what the questions were before he got to the church and had time to prepare answers. McCain was not in a "cone of silence" as Rick Warren stated he was on his way to the church and had already heard 30 minutes of the questions. Anybody who wants to believe that he did not listen to the questions on the way to the church, I guarantee you I can sell them the brooklyn bridge.

Posted by: Liz | August 18, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

Look, Hillary's women should have supported Michelle Obama. Period. If they were serious about womens rights - and if they were strong women - then they would have been there for Michelle. They weren't - and that speaks volumes to their (lack of) character.

Posted by: I'm Just Telling, Now | August 18, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Dude, you should chill. Hillary's people have probably just needed some time get over stuff. Your guy won- chill!

Posted by: Don | August 18, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Now that it's obvious that McCain is mobbed up and can't win it becomes easier to ask the key question: why is is that Hillary's white women have never come to the defense of Michelle Obama as she has faced some of the most vicious attacks a prospective First Lady has ever faced.

The answer: you people should be ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. She made one little slip, said the same stuff that McCain said about being proud, and you WHITE WOMEN didn't defend her. Why? Why? Why?

I'll tell you why! (Well, I won't. But the smart ones amongst you know why, and you should be ASHAMED for standing by and letting a GOOD LADY GET ABUSED.)

Posted by: I'm Just Askin; | August 18, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Obama and his staff seem to be unraveling. His followers don't see it though. Unfortunately for Obama, he seems to have peaked in his number of followers. Time will tell if he will be able to hold on to those he already has.

Posted by: wally | August 18, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I only post at the WaPo and the NYT so if I get blow up then you know who gave me up...


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
"“McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona.”

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 18, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

McCain's base is the crooked press and crooked big business.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F01E5DD1F3AF935A2575BC0A96E958260


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
"“McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona.”

McCain is Bush on steroids, in oh so many different ways.

Posted by: TruthHitsEverybody | August 18, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F01E5DD1F3AF935A2575BC0A96E958260

It was the mob that put the hit on Don Bolles, and it was the mob that financed McCain's run to the Presidency.

I know that many of you Republicans are ignorant, but you really should read up on your guy because he is NOT A PATRIOT and HIS PEOPLE ARE CROOKED.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
"“McCain’s personal fortune traces back to organized crime in Arizona.”

If you have any intelligence whatsoever, then you should read the TRUTH about your candidate. And if you had anything going on other than greed, corruption, the willingness to kill in order to make more dirty money, etc. then you should read about who McCain really is.

Otherwise, brothers, you are going down. There are many people who have fought for this country and put it all on the line, with the understanding that everything was on the up and up. This is beyond the pale.

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 18, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

It is getting nasty now! Team Obama has unleashed the fury! We will have to see how the polls take this shift in position. The live realtime online poll at http://www.bop-o-rama.com will surely see more bops on McCain after Oama's attacks! He needs to get his base out but it is clear by the blogs that Obama's minions are out in force. I guess his vacation is over. We will see how the Gallup polls track on Monday! Oh, nice tan!

Posted by: acarponzo | August 18, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.

Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442

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"How dare you accuse a former POW of cheating!"
yep thats out of the McCain camp. This of course after him not being where he said he just was. Ahhh the duplicity never stops, I find it so funny lying in the "House of God".. How does that sit with you evangelicals???? Go ahead vote for the man that just lied to all of you and in your home.... Suckers

Posted by: emd1976 | August 18, 2008 12:25 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

The new American right wing equals white trash. Rush Limbaugh equals drug addiction and support of violent crime. Sean Hannity equals hate and rascism for his support of the politics of destruction and his support of Gregory Corsi, a known and documented rascist. George W. Bush equals stupidity on a rare, monumental scale. Dick Cheney equals treason. David Addington equals treason, sedition, and betrayal to core American values. Glen Beck equals self-absorption on a scale of disbelief. Boehner and Gingrich equal each other, throne sniffing twins of the flaming apocalypse. Oliver North equals dishonor and sadly, betrayal. Who are these people and why do they matter? Because they are the lackeys of corporate greed and corporate greed is what is financing the neo-con movement. They are sick, disgusting, traitorous, treasonous creeps who have their hand in many crimes against to the good people in our nation. They should be spat upon like the dirt they are. Vote for this party? You have got to be kidding, John McCain.

Posted by: Cyrus Clarke | August 18, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Why doesn't someone ask Mccain about the cocktail of Alzheimer's drugs he is on?

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Obama is just angry that last night McCain told the straight truth, with no bullcrap, and the American Public liked it; Unlike himself who danced around the issues to "appeal" to everyone. At least you know where John McCain stands on the issues, and all you know about Obama is his hardest decision was voting against the war in Iraq!

Posted by: Independant | August 18, 2008 12:34 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 18, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Obama is just angry that last night McCain told the straight truth, with no bullcrap, and the American Public liked it; Unlike himself who danced around the issues to "appeal" to everyone. At least you know where John McCain stands on the issues, and all you know about Obama is his hardest decision was voting against the war in Iraq!

Posted by: Independant | August 18, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

"How dare you accuse a former POW of cheating!"
yep thats out of the McCain camp. This of course after him not being where he said he just was. Ahhh the duplicity never stops, I find it so funny lying in the "House of God".. How does that sit with you evangelicals???? Go ahead vote for the man that just lied to all of you and in your home.... Suckers

Posted by: emd1976 | August 18, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Obama:'My plan's not going to bring about economic disaster. We already have economic disaster..."

So Obama doesn't even believe in his own plan for America. This is sad.

Posted by: Pete | August 18, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

If I had an ego of immense proportions such that I believed myself to be infallible and that my beliefs and pronouncements were always right, I would be a Republican and a Conservative. Since I don't believe myself to be perfect and error-less, that I am less than perfect, call me a Democrat and a Liberal.

Posted by: DavidGD620 | August 18, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Mccain stole his speech from Wikipedia, he stole the cross story from Solzhenitsyn, and he cheated during the faith forum with Rick Warren. Rick Warren said Mccain was placed in a solem when he wasn't even in the building. It was a great night for Mccain because he new the answers to the questions. This is getting ridiculous. Why wasn't Mccain excluded in a room like Rick Warren said. Rich Warren must have known that Mccain wasn't in the building before he sat down with Obama. Every body is trying to elect another dumb, ignorant president that don't know anything regardless how dangerous he is. The American people better wake up and keep the journalist honest and stop taking bribes from the Mccain campaign lobbyist that stalks them on a daily basis to push Mccain talking points and agenda's.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 17, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse


"I believe God has placed Mr. Obama on His earth to make us a greater nation."

Obama said:
"A light will shine down... from somewhere. It will light upon you. You will experience an epiphany... You will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack' "

Posted by: Billw | August 17, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

This is a problem for Mccain. If Mccain and his lobbyist that run his campaign wasn't trying to run a negative campaign they wouldn't have Obama hammering them. Mccain is no position to say anything. Mccain is a joke. he steals others stories and words twice, he lies, and he's a cheat. Mccain is a terrible speaker and doesn't remember what he said on Monday on Wednesday. Mccain need to keep his mouth shout because if Obama wants him too he will tear Mccain down just by touting Mccain vs Mccain. Go Obama

Posted by: Tony | August 17, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Life began 4 billion years ago. It just continues now in different clusters of DNA. The real question is when a soul begins and that is answered by when the soul knows it is a soul.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 17, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

It's a jungle out there and Obama is ready to rumble in the jungle ... he needs to do better than Exxon John ... which is so bad it is funny.

Obama is getting destroyed by his absurd objection to off shore drilling; just say no to nuclear energy and his support for billion dollar taxpayer subsidies in the corn for ethanol scam that is raising everybody's grocery bill.

Corn goes to feed farm animals and chickens. When chicken feed goes up so does the price of eggs, breasts, wings and drumsticks. The price of ham, pork chops and bacon also goes up. The price of dairy and beef goes up, so does corn starch, corn oil, and tortillas. Everything is going up at the grocery store due to Obama's support for the farm bill.

If this is Obama's support for alternative energy, it will bankrupt America and starve the world.

Posted by: alance | August 17, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

As a former Republican; I will vote Democratic until the neo-con extremists who play games with my faith are removed from leadership positions.

Posted by: cgregglondon | August 17, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

To the author and copy-editors,

Something so simple as the capitalization of a proper noun, like "Fall," can have drastic effects on the meaning of a sentence.

Suggesting that Obama will have a "rough-and-tumble fall" is significantly different than a "rough-and-tumble Fall." I would give the author the benefit of the doubt here that the sentence refers to a season and not the demise of a successful presidential campaign.

I hope that editors will correct this silly and suggestive misstatement.

Posted by: Go Obama | August 17, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Toxic Avenger:

Apparently English is not your primary language.

I said God put him him here for us to become a GREATER nation.

You cannot become a GREATER nation unless you are already a GREAT nation.

BTW: You are a rare exception. I normally do not respond to postings placed by white trash.

Posted by: bobnsri | August 17, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Jonn McCain’s POW ‘Sign of the Cross” story is a lie.
A hoax.
A total fabrication.
He STOLE the story from Alexander Solzenitsyn.
In the McCain tale, a guard “makes a sign of the cross in the sand” in Solzenitsyn’s book, a fellow prisoner makes the “Sign of the Cross”

http://incommunion.org/articles/previous-issues/older-issues/the-sign-of-the-cross

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Russian author who spent many years in the gulag of Siberia, bears witness to the power of the cross. After long suffering in the work camp of Siberia, he fell into despair....He saw no reason to continue living, to continue fighting the system. He thought that the rest of his life was meaningless since he would most likely die in this Siberian prison. His life made no difference in the world. So he gave up.
Laying his shovel on the ground, he slowly walked to a crude work-site bench and sat down. He knew that at any moment a guard would order him to stand up, and when he failed to respond, the guard would beat him to death, probably with his own shovel.
As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly, he lifted his eyes and saw a skinny, old prisoner squat down next to him. The man said nothing. Instead, he drew a stick through the ground at Solzhenitsyn’s feet, tracing the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.
As Solzhenitsyn stared at the sign of the Cross. And through the power of the Cross, anything was possible.
Solzhenitsyn slowly got up, picked up his shovel, and went back to work. Nothing outward had changed, but inside, he received hope.

(As Nancy Reagen once told the LA Times: “John McCain sure tells interesting stories....”)

Posted by: bobnsri | August 17, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

The NY Times reports on its web site that McCain was not in a "cone of silence" during the Obama interview but was in his motor home on his way to the church. The McCain camp confirmed that fact but still denies he listened to Obama being interviewed. Whom are they kidding?!

Posted by: Munir | August 17, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh the poor terrorists Dr. Dave, plotting to kill your family and mine, and who do we have to protect them, you and the ACLU-not Halliburton. Your liberal playbook has expired dork, try something new and less childish! lol

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 17, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

So ask yourself: Which candidate is pro-torture? Are you pro-torture?
This begs the question of "What happened to this country?" One could caricature it as the next evil empire with Cheney at the helm. That might sound amusing until you remember what kind of Supreme Court we have. (Hint: unless you are CEO of Halliburton, you are NOT "One of the In Crowd." As fundamentalists found out but keep trying to ignore, they were played for suckers by the regime in power, and will be again.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | August 17, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

ceflynline@msn.com
What?? Keep your nuclear waste in your own state. Every nuclear plant needs to have its own local containment, bottom line. Tranportation of nulclear waste puts every state on the route in mortal danger. As John McCain says, "Transporting nuclear waste is way ok, just not in MY state.

Posted by: no nukes in Nevada | August 17, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Bob, we are a "great" nation, and have been for over 200 years. It's hard to take you liberals so seriously when all you folks to is constant whine and complain. Please find another country that will take you POS butt and then you'll see how good you actually have it! Enjoy the Prozac!

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 17, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"Back on the campaign trail after his Hawaii vacation, Sen. Barack Obama looked tanned, rested and ready to fight back."

A simple statement, packed with so much meaning.

Thank you Shailagh Murray for describing him as a regular guy! You have NO idea how much that means to me and so many other everyday Americans who are backing Barack Obama in hopes of a brighter future.

Posted by: I think I love Washington Post | August 17, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Why are their so MANY idiots on this blog today? Just because Obama isn't presumptious to think that he is God and knows when life begins as only God does, now he is being wimpy. Had he answered as the ARROGANT and totally out of line McCain then he would have been criticized. I am bored of this argument, it is putting me to sleep. C'mon GOP don't you have anything with ANY substance?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 17, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I believe God has placed Mr. Obama on His earth to make us a greater nation.

Posted by: Bob | August 17, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

"Above His Pay Grade?" Give me a break. Whatever happened to "The Buck Stops here"?

CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and The New York Times have tried to keep the American voter in the dark in terms where Obama stands on many important issues. Thank goodness that Rick Warren, a Pastor has done what many reporters have refused to do and that is ask Obama some tough questions regarding where he stands on the issues. It is ironic that the Main Stream media has caused the Church to inherit a permanent place as a legitimate venue in future Presidential election debates. Thank you CNN!

And what about that wimpy answer from Obama regarding his pay grade? Why can't he just be a man and tell it like it is Obama! Why does he feel obligated to hide his true intentions behind a good speechwriter and an ability to read flowery speech from a teleprompter?

Posted by: GeraldD | August 17, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

benighse: I don't want to alarm you unnecessarily, but the minimum time frame that you might have to worry about what happens under Yucca Mountain is something like five to ten times the length of all of civilization's history.

Up in the mountains and deserts to your North are something like a thousand craters, everyone of which is a much bigger radiological worry than anything that could happen at Yucca Mountain.

We could bury many times our current nuclear waste material back up in those craters and the danger from them would disappear in the very real danger in the nuclear blast cavities over which they were buried. Yucca Mountain represents a storage method that is reversably over the near term (500 or so tears) when we learn to use what is in those storgae casks, or change it into something safer. Near term you are at far greater risk from radio active dusts blown off the atmospheric test residue fall out sites than you are from anything to be stored in Yucca Mountain.

Nevada has a resource, those particular craters, that could mean clean, safe, high paying jobs for most of the educable people in the state, and lots of qualified outsiders, if you really wanted the jobs.

Nevada is, like parts of Idaho, naturally a good place for storage of radioactive residue of the Power stream, and Nevada is a nearly perfect place to locate the power generation portion of that nuclear power stream.

Were you to stop trying to stop Yucca Mountain, and to start trying to make it safer than it already is, you might figure this out.

Start with Google Earth, Cadillac Jack's posting of nuclear test sites. Think how you can get lots of salt water to them for cooling. (It is a solvable problem, now the problem is optimization). Salt water plus enough heat, and sun, equals salt and rain. Guess who gets the rain, if the salt stays on the playas up there on the test range.

Think about it.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 17, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Dear TK, being around as many arrogant doctors as yourself, I would have to challenge your belief that you're smarter than a "hick". And if you want to compare religious backgrounds, Osama Obama spent over 20 years with this man of hate, was introduced to politics by a radical terrorist and was brought up into politics, in all places, Chicago. McCain has NOTHING on the Messiah. It's funny how elitists snobs like yourself are so totally clueless about the realities of the world, but maybe I should cut you a break, since that's what you have been given your total "adult" life-a break. Imagine no liberals, what a wonderful world it would be.

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 17, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

You here a nasty statement about a neighbor you don't like, and go about spreading that statement. Your neighbor hears you, tells you that what you are saying isn't true. You say, "Well, I heard so and so saying it." Does that mean you aren't a liar? No, but you could also be a plagiarist.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 17, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Lynch a Republican??? Well if he's republican he's most likely white and the last time I heard about a lynching, it was a black guy getting lynched. When was the last time you heard about a white guy getting killed by an angry black mob of hicks? Yeah I thought so.

As to Obama's pastor...who the hell cares???? And if you do, then what about McCain whose got the endorsement of evangelical losers/nutheads/racists/bigots/fatsos/mental midgets stuck in the ffties who have ALL said things like "oh if America lets people have private rights, well then she deserves to be hit by terrorists" whats the difference between that and what Wright said?

Finally, I'm a smart guy. My parents went to grad school, I had a good private school education, I got into a good medical school. I am not ashamed of saying that I am smarter then some backwater hick in Kentucky who hasn't ever step foot of the one tank traveling radius of his ford pickup truck. And I think that Obama is better than McCain. And you bet your rostral end that my evaluation of who should be president is better than those ignorant, racist morons that have a problem with Obama b/c of his pastor, b/c of his color, b/c of his name, b/c of his education. Yeah he's an elite. So was FDR, JFK and most of the founding fathers! Why would I want some "average guy" running my country? Why would I want some old, nasty, smelly, broken down hypocrite running this country I love?

And I can't wait for November when these whining, right wing nuts will finally realize that they lost and their days of ruining this nation are over for at least 4 years!

Posted by: TK | August 17, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

IN NEVADA---Thank goodness OBAMA says yes to renewable energy that Nevada can benefit from, and he says no to nuclear waste at Yucca Mtn. With windmills and solar panels in the wide open dry spots of Nevada, we can be a major producer of energy with this right and clean technology. Let's put the Washoe zephyrs to work and the 330 plus sun days a year producing this clean energy. Just because Mccain prefers $10 Billion a month in Iraq for any length of time, and sees no problem spending your tax money on that and Yucca Mtn wastefulness....when OBAMA ends all of that nonsense, there will be money to build renewable resources so no one has to go back hat in hand to Saudis and others for more oil in the mideast again. So those who want silly wars can vote for mccain, and those who want America to reach for energy independence and to quit sending $700 billion more a year to mideast theocracies can vote for OBAMA---I'm for Obama--Let's put him to work for all America--Let's go Nevada--It's up to us!

Posted by: benighse | August 17, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

"McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responded by noting that the "recipe for economic disaster" line came from a Las Vegas Review-Journal editorial"

So not only is one of their main accusations basically untrue, it isn't even original to them.

One totally unreliable Republican floats a totally unreliable accusation about a Democrat, an equally unreliable Republican source quotes it, a caampaign picks it up and uses it against the Democrat, and when the Democrat says, "My opponent wants to keep telling you lies about me." the Republican says, "It isn't my fault, I didn't start the lie."

Well, it still isn't true that Obama's tax plan will lead to economic collapse, and there is no reason to believe otherwise. The Republican economic (Plan?) something has already lead to collapse after collapse, a doubling of the national debt on George's watch, and an accumulated ten fold expansion of the national debt since the first implementation of voodoo economics. All of which is directly attributable to Republican Budgets and Republican theories of the nature of the national debt and its relation to government. John hasn't repudiated voodoo economics, and when you can get him to admit to any economic thinking at all is overall in favor of it. He will administer the executive office with that as a fundamental principle.

That is unreservedly true.

McCain is publicly for the total collapse of the American economy.

And there are people who claim that they are so hurt that their candidate didn't win that they will vote FOR that economic collapse?

Either they aren't rational, or they aren't truthful. They are, obviously, Reaganite Republicans

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | August 17, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

How about a commercial that shows the crowd chanting "Bush, bush, bush, with a picture of McCain. Remember when the rightwingers though Bush was Jesus? What idiots.

Posted by: tricky65 | August 17, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I am so ready for Obama to come out punching and take these white trash hicks down a few notches. Enough with the thinly veiled racist garbage; enough with the fake Clintonista whining; enough with taking their %$#* without hitting back.

Posted by: Roger | August 17, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

And the few excessive sermons by Wright out of hundreds of his own and of others at the church do not erase the enormous amount of work it has done to help the community. If a small number of remarks that go too far are enough to get a church labeled a "hate-church," you may be disappointed to find out that most churches in America would fall under that category.

(The entire issue is spurious anyway and has no bearing on a candidate's ability to govern effectively, unless you're a paranoid racist simpleton.)

Posted by: Hypocritical | August 17, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"If a Republican was involved in this kind of a hate-church you would want to lynch him."

Really? Because most people seem fine with McCain's actively seeking the endorsement of John Hagee, who has some pretty interesting views about the holocaust, among other things.

Posted by: Hypocritical | August 17, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people!!! If Mc cain wins we will have another 4 years of the same. An once again the same stupid people that were fooled by Bush will be asking themselves why did they fall for the same bull crap again! Dumb is as Dumb does.

Posted by: 8yearsoffear | August 17, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a racist and a bigot second to none. If you are a liberal white person, find a replay of Obama's mentor and minister of twenty years. If a Republican was involved in this kind of a hate-church you would want to lynch him.
Too many white liberals are self-loathing types that drag their race-guilt around like a ball-and-chain. Look at the CIA and FBI violent crime stats before you feel too guilty. Find out who is killing who per capita. You might be surprised. Much of this black rage is coming from Obama and Wright types - closet racists who use white liberals because they will believe everything that is fed to them.

Posted by: New media | August 17, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

He's the black JFK and this is the dark side of Camelot.

Posted by: WhiteMLK | August 17, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama should save big bucks and re-play McCains commercial with a baby crying in the background. Wah, wah, he's so popular...

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 17, 2008 8:07 PM
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Thats a great Idea! I'm off to youtube to do some editing, see ya!

Posted by: Creamsykle | August 17, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama should save big bucks and re-play McCains commercial with a baby crying in the background. Wah, wah, he's so popular...

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 17, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

"...We already have economic disaster because of John McCain's president, George W. Bush."

Obama needs to drive this point home at every opportunity. McCain has embraced almost all of Bush's agenda, even things he originally opposed like the massive Bush tax cut for the wealthiest segment of our society.

Posted by: Groundhogday | August 17, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

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