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Obama's Boomer Strength

By Alec MacGillis
Barack Obama has a problem with the older voter. His deficit with voters over age 65 is the main reason why he is not further ahead in a year when many factors -- including his strength as a campaigner -- seem to point toward a bigger edge.

But there is of course another way of looking at this year's striking generation gap: that John McCain has an age problem of his own, and arguably a much bigger one than Obama. Not only is McCain getting walloped in the polls among under-30 voters, he is also trailing or barely breaking even among voters in their 40s, 50s and early 60s -- those who one might expect to be less open than the youngsters to Obama's charms.

If there is a cleavage in the generational landscape, the polls suggest, it is less between the youngest and the middle-aged than it is between over-65 voters and everybody else, and especially the now approaching retirement Baby Boomers.

To help understand the gap, consider Robert Reichert, the mayor of Macon, Ga., a moderate white Democrat who surprised many when he decided to endorse Obama shortly after meeting him in late January, after the South Carolina primary and about a week before Georgia's primary on Super Tuesday. While in Macon recently to report on Obama's voter registration efforts there, The Trail interviewed Reichert over breakfast at H&H, Macon's legendary soul food restaurant (the Allman Brothers got fed for free there when they were unknown and starving) and was struck by his theory of generational politics.

Reichert, who turned 60 this week, said he believed that Obama had a chance to carry Georgia not only because of high black turnout, but because he believed that enough white Georgians his age saw in Obama the "validation" of the changes that they had helped bring about in their own lives. It was his generation, he said, that was most closely linked with the civil rights revolution in the South, that had watched society transform itself over the course of its adolescent and adult life. At the heart of the revolution had been Georgia's Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., until his assassination in 1968. Forty years later came Obama, and Reichert saw providence in the timing.

"Moses wandered for 40 years, and since King, we've been lost and kind of wandering without direction for 40 years," said Reichert, a genial lawyer with a drawl that would qualify him to play Atticus Finch. "My generation went through turbulent times in the 1960s that completely inverted the system we had grown up with. I'm so proud of us I could pop. We have been the generation in which the gate has swung 180 degrees. My generation! And doggone it, I'm proud of what we've done."

He continued: "This shift, this transition, is what [Obama's] appealing to. The older you are, the more difficult it is to get out of the older school when things are changing that fast. But [for the baby boom generation], all of a sudden you have someone who arrives on the scene who can be a validation of what you're waiting for, and holy mackerel, I believe Obama is that person. It's that desire to believe, to have that desire validated..." He trailed off, catching himself in his exuberance.

Reichert said that he had gotten plenty of flack for his endorsement, which he made on local radio the day after he met Obama at a Macon church. "Some people say I was just carried away by the moment, but I said, shoot, I'm going to endorse Obama." Beyond the generational pull, he said he was drawn by Obama's message of inspiration. "The reason I'm a Democrat is that I was fortunate enough to hear Kennedy speak at his inauguration when I was 13," he said. "He challenged us to go to the moon. He didn't say how we were going to do it, he said we need to go, and god damn we did. That's the beauty of someone with the ability to inspire."

Reichert realized there were plenty of white Georgians of his generation who are not going to vote for Obama. The conservative Democratic congressman representing Macon, Jim Marshall, refused to endorse Obama even after he secured the nomination in early June, and has kept great distance from Obama's efforts to register black voters in Macon, even though that work will benefit Marshall as he tries to hold onto his racially mixed, highly competitive district.

Reichert shrugged when asked about Marshall's reticence, saying that the 1994 Democratic wipeout had left many moderate and conservative Democrats in the state, including himself, highly anxious about their job security. Marshall "is very sensitive to not trying to alienate any of his Republican support," Reichert said.

But Reichert did not think that closer association with Obama would hurt Marshall, or anyone else, as much as they fear. The great generational shift, he said, has left in its place a much different Georgia -- one that, among other things, is much younger than most other states. "It's grossly unfair to characterize Georgia as a backwards place locked in the past. We've had a huge migration from other parts of the country. We are international, we are progressive, we are cosmopolitan," he said. Then he paused and smiled. "Which isn't to say that we don't have some rednecks. We do -- and we love them."

By Web Politics Editor  |  August 13, 2008; 12:58 PM ET
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It's amazing. For how 'wrong' any level of socialism is, other countries in Europe seem to be managing just fine with Socialist governments. Somehow socialist and liberal have become bad words to Americans. And the funny thing is that the people who believe that it's evil are the one's who'd benefit most from more a more socialized government.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

You people are nuts- McCain married into a crime family and disqualified himself from serious consideration. If you Republicans weren't so ignorant, self-absorbed or racist - or whatever it is that is preventing you from seeing reality - then you might, just might, qualify as Patriots. But you are just sick, ignorant fools who are victims of the corrupt Republican system that has pillaged third world countries, hired lawyers, under-reported their income, under-payed their taxes, started wars that your children and cousins have had to die and be wounded in- all so that they can enjoy high oil prices, tobacco profits, arms sales, and every other dodgy thing. They have lied, cheated and stolen- and you people have been hoodwinked. When you go to church next Sunday, do say a prayer for Bush and McCain- not because they don't know what they are doing, but because no one should have to go where they are going.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-spirits/1

Posted by: Corruption Anon | August 14, 2008 4:46 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a racist, anti-American socialist with a history of marijuana, cocaine, and alcohol abuse as self-described in his books. He dealt with the pain of racial prejudice by getting high, according to his own admission. John McCain, on the other hand, dealt with the excruciating agony of being a POW by using his mental and emotional strength. McCain has shown real devotion to and love of country by his willingness to die for his country. Obama, on the other hand, has demonstrated his anti-Americanism by supporting the Black Liberation theology of his Pastor Wright who has repeatedly implored God to "damn America." As a lifelong Democrat I will vote for the strong American patriot McCain, and never for the anti-American Obama.

Posted by: Pete | August 14, 2008 4:17 AM | Report abuse

This baby boomer born in 1947 was inspired as a youngster by Roy Rogers and Dale Evans. Cried for three days when JFK was assassinated. Was motivated by anger and grief to change the world for the better when we lost Bobby and MLK. Was never more proud to be an American when John Glen orbited the earth and Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. Loved the Beatles and Dusty Springfield. Then Vietnam came along and everything changed. Friends died. Baby boomers moved on in their lives only to endure Watergate, Reagan, Clinton, 9/11, Bush, Iraq ... And now, in our 60's, we face probably the most critical and important general election of our lifetime. One candidate chose the military over the summer of love. The other candidate is not of our generation but claims to espouse the beliefs of our most beloved figures -- JFK and MLK. Neither candidate is my choice, and certainly not Senator Obama. His brand is not my brand. I supported Senator Clinton because she represented a passionate pursuit of something historical as well -- our first woman President. Sorry, this boomer misses the excitement, passion and competency she brought to the Presidential campaign. I will always support her because I truly believe it was 'her time' to be President of the United States of America. After all, she's a boomer too -- and has lived the history like the rest of us.

Posted by: mpwynn | August 14, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

This Saturday I will be hosting a Barack Fund Raiser at a Midtown Atlanta Thai restaurant. It will be packed with a diverse, incredibly enthusiastic group of Barack supporters. In addition to the money we will raise, dozens of new voters will be registered. Our Event is one of over 300 that are posted on Barack's website in the Atlanta area. Does Grandpa McCain really believe that all of us aren't going to come out in droves on November 4th? We will turn Georgia Blue and be part of the Barack landslide. Good riddance to the portly, little, corrupt, adulterous Warmonger...

Posted by: shiva7 | August 13, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Good God yall. Bickering about all this nonsense. I voted Republican in every election from 1976-1996(I just couldn't vote for Bush), but I must admit that only a half wit would think McCain has a chance. Will he take Georgia? It doesn't matter. He's toast: warm buttery toast. I also must admit that in 1980 I was as excited about RR as these young people are about Obama. I didn't listen to people saying MY revolution was wrong. I was 22 and I was right! Well that dream, after years of listing, has finally foundered on the shoals of reality. What started out as a joy is now the fag end of a farce. It planted the seeds of rapacious Wall Street greed, rampant consumerism and military bullying. Beating up on small countries is addictive. Obama won't solve what's wrong with us. He's in the thrall of big money just like everyone else. Oh and he can fool 22 year olds. Any racial progress will be torn apart by an imploding economy and a mounting flood of illegals. I warn you now: it will be an explosive mix. We are about to find out how idiotic the open border policy of the last 20 years can be.

Posted by: chaz | August 13, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse


"Macon's Mayor Robert Reichert to explain his decision to desert his party's candidate"

Maybe Obama's henchmen made it worth his while. You never know.

Posted by: Billw | August 13, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse


Anonymous:
"McCain would lose a debate on the issues"

No, that's why Obama wouldn't join McCain for town hall meetings. He's afraid.

Posted by: Billw | August 13, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I have been a Republican all of my voting life. I can no longer support the party. Bush/Cheney/McCain have destroyed everything I thought the party of Lincoln stood for. We have record budget deficits. Support of evangelicals has been shown to be a mockery. Government has never been bigger. We still have taxes and we are not even taking military action against the Russians. I am totally disillusioned. I am voting for Bob Barr.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | August 13, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

All you Obama bashers... What are your plans if Obama is elected? Are you going to hit the streets in demonstrations? I doubt it very much. All the rambling is nothing more than distractions and idle talk. Nothing better to do while you're waiting for your favorite sitcom to start. If you truely "cared" about your country, you wouldn't have waited for this election to rattle off at the mouth. You would have been out there stopping Bush.

Posted by: Right | August 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

A black man runs a racist campaign, using the same MO that he (and his campaign director) have used in the past of screaming that the opponent, or the opponent supporters are "playing the race card", or "will play the race card in the future", or are using phrases which if nicely twisted can be interpreted as insensistive to blacks, and the Boomer that explains his instant support for Obama, Robert Reichert, the mayor of Macon, is somehow an example of logical thinking leading to support of Obama? I was there before your Mayor, indeed I was with Malcom X in 64 at Harvard, with the founding of Boston chapter of the SDS in 63, marching with MLK in 64, always knowing I was late to the cause that MLK and a host of black leaders and followers had been fighting for many years before me.

And somehow the racist campaign run by Obama is the "validation" of the changes we marched for back then? Given Obama flip/flops on policy (a leftest in the primary and now to the right of the GOP on some issues) the only way I will trust the Democratic ticket to push its nominee's Democratic Primary stated policies is if Hillary is VP, and therefor there to remind him. I'd rather have a McCain and his experience than the con job that is Obama if the Democrats do not restrain Obama via a Hillary VP.

Posted by: papau | August 13, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Kilgore

Didn't you also demonstrate against the Vietnam war?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I really enjoy reading pseudo intellectual motor mouths make idiots of themselves. Communism and Socialism failed in the Soviet Union and in China. One of the definitions of insanity is someone who does something numerous times with the same result and expects a different result the next time.You libs could not find your rear-ends with two sharp sticks. Only a lib could ridicule President Bush for causing violence in Iraq and then employ violence in the US to further their Communist goals. Libs; always looking for a handout at the expense of someone else who worked hard for their success. Lets make sure the lazy have nots get a slice of someone's pie that worked hard for it. Better yet take the whole pie and then make you pay tax on it to support an illegal alien. Seattle, Portland and Berkeley, enjoy the next earthquake and Volcano. Yes there is a natural order of things in this universe. All you bearded, latte drinking liberal scum enjoy the end of democracy when Barack Hussein Abominable takes office.

Posted by: mack | August 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

And the point of this article is ---- ? Most voters over age 65 support McCain, under age 30 voters support Obama. OK, we've been hearing that for months. The rest of the story was about the attempt of Macon's Mayor Robert Reichert to explain his decision to desert his party's candidate and support Obama. Somehow I think the McCain campaign will survive this disaster. Reichert refers to Georgia's remaining population of "rednecks", presumably referring to any Georgians who support John McCain.

Posted by: C. Nelson | August 13, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Although I am a bit younger than Mr. Reichert, I am of the Boomer generation. I, too, am proud of my generation and what we helped to accomplish in the area of civil rights, women's rights, and consciousness-raising in general. I am proud of the fact that we dared confront the hypocrisy in our government and in our religions and stage protests against them. I cannot, however, endorse Senator Obama.

I have always been a Democrat and considered myself liberal (though admittedly less liberal than in my youth), but Obama's liberalism goes WAY beyond mine. His views (such as I can decipher, considering his changing with the tide and tendency to toss people he formerly agreed with, but who are now detrimental to his ambition, under the proverbial bus) and his associations with people such as Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Odinga, Said, Farrakhan, Davis, et. al, prohibit my endorsement, even if he were qualified to be president, which he is not. He has in no way earned the right to lead this country, nor has he demonstrated an ability to do so. The man has a resume thinner than the sheet of paper it's printed on. Never in our history has anyone so unqualified had the audacity to run for the highest office in the land. It would be laughable if it weren't so potentially serious.

The Obamas offend my love for my country. America is not perfect; never has been; I'll be the first to acknowledge that. But just as I can acknowledge my children's defects and can criticize them objectively and recognize their need for improvement, the essential fact remains, they are my children and I love them in spite of their faults. I do not think that they are the worst children in the world, innately unredeemable, and I do not compare them unfavorably with others. I feel the same about America. Obama listened to a radical bigot for twenty years whose views are opposite to mine.

Obama and his fans are too obsessed with race and too apt to play that card when things are not going their way or when others disagree with them. I don't like that. I don't like being termed a racist, when I know that I am not. I also resent being termed a racist by those who are clearly racist, themselves, yet who evidently believe they have a right to be so. That's bulls--t!

All this by way of saying, I cannot endorse Senator Obama. For the first time in my life, I will vote for a Republian. And unless things change, I intend to permanently switch parties and register as an Independent.

Posted by: Judy Kilgore | August 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

What this country really needs to do, is step back and take an honest look at what events have occurred over the last 8 years. I would venture to say that so many Americans have been so pre-occupied with their daily lives, that they aren't even aware of what has taken place regarding their freedoms.

As I see it, life goes on for most of them, until one day, a grouchy-old neighbor with a bone to pick, calls Home Land Security about strange behavior at his neighbor's house (group of men with beards showing up in the evening for Hannaka celebration), which he believes to be muslims. Rest of the story is obvious... doors are broken down, people are arrested and taken away. All because this grouchy neighbor had a bone to pick. So now what? What becomes of the lives of the people living in that "Violated" house? Sounds ridiculous, but it's reality in America. Besides, it's already happened.

This has become the worst of times in American history. People will become paranoid in everything they do, in fear that either someone will point a finger at them or some government agency will misunderstand a conversation they are having on their cell phone. I'm waiting for the day that the government announces a reward for information on anyone suspected of being a terrorist. Then watch the flood gates open. Orson Wells anyone?

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Tim please explain to me what a "renewable" energy is?
Frankie, which political party most likely supports abortions (denying the Right to life), Gun control (denying the Right to Keep and Bear Arms), the "Fairness Doctrine" ( denying the Right to Free Speach) That's right, Your DemocRat party. The Democrat party wants to get rid of your "God-given Rights" in exchange for some new age Government given personal liberties. Um, No Thanks.
S. Johnson, Texas

Posted by: NObama 08 | August 13, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

COLE. this article is about "BOOMERS"
85,000 Americans died during the "BOOMERS" lifetime fighting Communism,they will show at the polls and cancel you and those who think like you out.
{you misspelled receiving}

Posted by: Cole | August 13, 2008 5:19 PM

"Look, I am not going to try and spin this. Barrack Obama is a Marxist however, most of the Marxist and communist idea's are good for this country.

This is why Obama is recieving strong support from the Communist Party USA and most socialist groups. If given some support, the Democrats and Barrack Obama will redistribute the wealth which will benefit everyone. "

Posted by: rtfanning | August 13, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

COLE. this article is about "BOOMERS"
85,000 Americans died during the "BOOMERS" lifetime fighting Communism,they will show at the polls and cancel you and those who think like you out.
{you misspelled receiving}

Posted by: Cole | August 13, 2008 5:19 PM

"Look, I am not going to try and spin this. Barrack Obama is a Marxist however, most of the Marxist and communist idea's are good for this country.

This is why Obama is recieving strong support from the Communist Party USA and most socialist groups. If given some support, the Democrats and Barrack Obama will redistribute the wealth which will benefit everyone. "

Posted by: rtfanning | August 13, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh geez... Now we have the "voice of truth" among us.

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

John Bailo-- you are being serious, arent you? Too funny..."The Democrats have pulled out all stops to try and keep America in the 20th Century." .....at least Obama knows what a PC is and what e-mail is....Having someone as technologically ignorant as McBush in office would be a danger, in this century-- information moves so quickly-- oh yeah, nevermind he'd be in the "Bush-like bubble"...no need to think or write e-mails, etc. when you have the neocons doing that for you.

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

"It's up to us to start working together to form systems that work". Nice idea in theory, but we have become a nation of cynics, so it will never happen. Besides, how can one formulate such an opinion - "What the American people don't seem to realize is that NEITHER of these candidates are going to get us out of this mess...", when we haven't given one of these candidates a chance? Or don't you in our democratic way of life? You honestly believe that we can organize into groups that will do the things necessary to put us back on track? After seeing how easy it is to lead a herd of sheep to supporting a war in Iraq, I doubt seriously that you could stand in a town square on a wooden box and sell this idea. Thanks for the moment of humor.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

That's the problem with open forums like this, you have all kinds of undesirables commenting. To bad you can't click to block their comments, that way their posts only show up for those who wish to engage in such rants. The rest of us can discuss serious issues and our perspectives on the candidates in an intelligent forum.

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

What the American people don't seem to realize is that NEITHER of these candidates are going to get us out of this mess... It's up to us to start working together to form systems that work, since clearly, the ones we're running now do not.

Posted by: I speak the truth | August 13, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Let's just call it what it is. Racism.

Posted by: RC | August 13, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

John Bailo...
Welcome home. Glad to see you have risen from your hibernation of 8 years. Lot's have happened since you left, you might want to try and catch up with the rest of us.

Does anyone have any idea where people like this come from?

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Emotion. The grist of the no-show, newbies. Y'all flail and gnash teeth.
Scream for a guy without credentials.
Vets of war and/or politics are laughing
their buttocks off. Scream for ice cream,
or Obama-cream,they both melt with exposure.Feel good...and go on vacation.

Posted by: La.LiveOak | August 13, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

The under 30 demo is too naive to understand that Obama is nothing short of a Socialist. They don't even know what Socialism/Communism is. they just think its cool that he as an Iphone.

Posted by: No Commies | August 13, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

America REJECTS the third term of Bush and will JUST SAY NO!!!!! to John W. McBush

Posted by: south_side_of_sky | August 13, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, 'Billw.' Because that's not offensive in the slightest. Instead of talking about burning people at the steak and roasting them, how about we have a solid debate on the issues. You know, the things that really matter. Oops, I forgot! McCain would lose a debate on the issues 1,000 to 1 which is why he is trying to divert attention away from them. My bad....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats have pulled out all stops to try and keep America in the 20th Century. There latest foot dragging is to pawn off Obama as some "agent of change". Obama is the incubated offspring of every frustrated 60's Liberals power trip. They thought they would get there with Hillary and when she couldn't do it, jumped horses mid-stream for Obama.

The only real "change" in the last 50 years has been the Bush administration. Bush has pioneered new paradigms in foreign policy, environment, energy, social policy, rapid response and more.

Any future President should, at best, be a Bush follower. A Mondale democrat like Obama will only do harm.

Posted by: John Bailo | August 13, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain is essentially irrelevant for the future of this country. RNC has only produced corruption, hatred in America and huge losses for generations to pay. Their incompetence and bad intentions do not deserve any power.

Posted by: O.P. Neon | August 13, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse


"PRESIDENT OBAMA....PRESIDENT OBAMA..."

No way cowboy. Here's to you:

Someone said that McCain is just toast
Sounds to me like a rather idle boast.
'cause Obama is the Dude
Who's gonna' get screwed,
In November his arse we will roast.

Posted by: Billw | August 13, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Nice try, "Cole". Pretty obvious that you're a right-wing republic party nut job trying to write in 3rd person to make it sound like you're a communist or socialist who also "belongs" to the Democratic Party...and you're inventing all sorts of Soviet/Chinese/Cuban social engineering to TRY to attribute to Obama. Not working. The American people are smarter than that...except for you...and the ogres you share your cave with. Now put away your Windows 95 based computer, and practice in front of a mirror, saying "PRESIDENT OBAMA....PRESIDENT OBAMA..." It will be good for what ails you.

Posted by: Dean | August 13, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Johnny "Songbird":

"Name, rank, serial number....or commit suicide"-- pretty simple...sheeesh or at least make up some stuff...It's well-documented most of McBush's injuries came from crashing his 5th plane

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

One of the major concerns I have, is that America's image is tarnished in the world's eye. I think that one of the early issues our new president will need to address, will be to work on cleaning up that image.

Something else that jumps out at us is the image of China as seem while watching the Olympics. It makes you realize that they are progressing as an economy at a tremendous rate. What happened to us? It is scary to think that they will pass us by within a few years at the rate they are moving.

This progress is something I feared, when I saw the major corporations and businesses moving factories over there. Granted, they have cheap labor, but at the same time, the cost of living is so low. In a commentary I saw sometime back, workers were telling how when they moved from the small villages into the major cities, they made 10 times as much money.

Other concerns: China is Loaning the U.S. money? Why?

A number of our states are either selling or leasing their infrastructures (roads)to foreign contries, as a way to pay their bills at the state levels. This is not looking good for Americans.

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Interesting

Posted by: Obama2008 | August 13, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

NCKW Nicely put.

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama is making inroads here in Georgia. Everybody forgets that Atlanta is a blue bastion in a sea of red, and its population keeps growing. We're voting for someone who understands America deserves more than the partisan bickering we've had to endure the past decade or so. There are good men and women serving their country on either side of the aisle.
Speaking of which, just ignore the haters. Internet anonymity is the coward's way of carving graffiti in the bathroom stall, no matter who they claim to support. That craving for attention must be terrible to live with, and we only have to deal with it momentarily as we scroll past to the reasonable comments.
Peace, friends. Let's hope the heat of summer is gone for good down here.

Posted by: NCKW | August 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Mike | August 13, 2008 5:15 PM is a prime example of misinformation. Obviously a McCain supporter if not a member of his campaign team.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Mike | August 13, 2008 5:15 PM

Context of John McCain's "I am a war criminal" statement in 1997 on "60 minutes":

McCain says he did this because "I broke." as a result of torture:

WALLACE: (Voiceover) People who know McCain well say he can hold a grudge. He also has a legendary temper. But if McCain can be hard on his friends and even harder on his enemies, he can also be very hard on himself.

Sen. McCAIN: I m--made serious, serious mistakes and did things wrong when I was in prison, OK?

WALLACE: What did you do wrong in prison?

Sen. McCAIN: I wrote a confession. I was guilty of war crimes against the Vietnamese people. I intentionally bombed women and children.

WALLACE: And you did it because you were being tortured...

Sen. McCAIN: I...

WALLACE: ...and you'd reached the end of the line.

Sen. McCAIN: Yes. But I should have gone further. I should have--I--I never believed that I would--that I would break, and I did.

Research your facts, before you state them.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

-You may not like McCain. But at least he didn't go traitor under torture when he was a POW-

McCain's done a masterful job of trying to conceal what happened when he was a POW--

You ask the families of the POWs/MIAs who were trying to get just a little information about their loved ones when he was serving on the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs between 1991-1993..."traitor" may be one of the nicer words they would use for Songbird McCain.

If "Swiftboating" has become a sport we can play that game.

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Otto:

You think that CNN and the Networks are switching back to coloring "Blue States" for the Republican this year?

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Look, I am not going to try and spin this. Barrack Obama is a Marxist however, most of the Marxist and communist idea's are good for this country.

This is why Obama is recieving strong support from the Communist Party USA and most socialist groups. If given some support, the Democrats and Barrack Obama will redistribute the wealth which will benefit everyone.

We can then have universal health care, public issued housing and food subsistance. This will however take some time. Some may not like this plan but those on the lower end of the income ladder will benefit from this redistribution of wealth.

He is the right candidate and this is the right time to shift and change this government so that all the people can prosper. It is imperative that Obama gets in office and we keep the Democrats as the majority. The unity of our democrat party is necessary to achieve our goals. Once we demonstrate how great this change in government will be, most of the others who now disagree will get on board. We will be able to change the laws and the constitution to reflect our new goals and new way of life.

Those who don't embrace this change can be left to survive on there own although, we can consider some humanitarian subsistance.

Lets make this happen.

Posted by: Cole | August 13, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"We're voting Clinton". Childish. Lacks intelligence.

"slime-ball DEMS". Childish. Lacks intelligence.

"rest of your family has the intelligence of algae". Childish. Lacks intelligence.

I guess you can't change people from what they truely are.

Such a shame to see comments that don't really focus on what this campaign is really supposed to represent - debates on issues that impact our lives, long after the new prez takes office. Intelligent views on what each of us wants from our candidates.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I just can't justify voting for a guy who is a closet Marxist / Socialist. Look up those things for yourselves and you'll see where Obama gets a lot of his ideas.

You may not like McCain. But at least he didn't go traitor under torture when he was a POW.

No Obama.

Posted by: Mike | August 13, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I will be laughing until my belly pop on November 5th. On that day, all you hate filled morons will be shocked when most States turn blue.

The landslide has began and we'll sweep all you hateful people back to the 18th. century where you all should be. You should have remined in a locked area where you and Jim Crow can wallow in your own pig pen.

Posted by: Otto | August 13, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

LOVE THE USA, VOTE OBAMA.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

Posted by: REPUBLICAN | August 13, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Johnny "the Songbird" McBush-- some of the flip-flops -- there are well over 60 of them--

Opposed offshore drilling now he's for it....Opposed Bush's tax cuts now he's for them....Opposed torture now he's for it...Opposed Social Security privitazation now he's for it....Said he considered being John Kerry's running mate in 2004, now he says he didn't....Says he knows nothing about the economy, now he says he does....He used to love being a celebrity- and actually he still does

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

This country cannot stand another four years of GOP pandering to the lowest denominator voters who only want Guns, Gays & God for a platform. Repubs promote diversity but their convention will have as usual more minorities on stage than in the entire audience. Another country club "old boy" meeting as usual.

Posted by: Tom in Alabama | August 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Annonymous Coward - Wrong, but good try. Parents of Soldiers actually keep in contact with each other. Most of us don't post under our names for fear that the military will punish us by taking it out on our children. Mike's son, FYI, was on CNN, the soldier helping wounded after a suicide bombing and these swine identified him and have taunted him and his family with hate filled emails and middle of the night telephone calls ever since. So much for "partriotism" and support of the troops and their families by these cowardly, deceitful, subhuman, vermin. So much, also, for what we can all expect from the McCain partisan's and Republican's in general. I wish, oh how I wish, that every newspaper in the country, every t4elevision show, would feature this exchange, to show and contrast genuine patriots and their families who fight and die for this country vs. the fake patriots and cowards of the right, McCain's shameful minions.

Posted by: Parent Of Wounded Vet | August 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Chevy:
We hit a vein in your arguments and struck muscle in your self-proclaimed intelligence with one bolt.

Posted by: tanaS | August 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen so many rediculous and hateful posters for one article. I am astonished and ashamed that people can say such vitriol things. If you honestly believe that democrats, or any politicians for that matter are such phony's and socialists and are looking to intentionally and maliciously do harm to this country, you should be ashamed of yourself. I am not naive either, i'm just not blinded by a false sense of omnipresent conspiracy and partisanship. What happened to an honest debate about issues over disgusting baseless mud flinging. If you want to talk about how McCain is too old, or if you think that Obama is a "dirty muslim" fine, but 1. you're wrong, and 2. you're ingoring the issues and destoying any chance for real dicourse. These people are running for president, a position no blogger here could fill, we should respect the canidates, and respect ourselves by not believing the lies and insults and political gossip that's out there.

Posted by: commoncents | August 13, 2008 5:00 PM
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Thank you for saying something that actually resonates adult behavior.

It's definately worth repeating.

Posted by: Lady Voter | August 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, pgr88, but did you refer to white people as racist and call them crackers? That's a little hypocritical. Don't you think?

Posted by: BW | August 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Chevy-

The Pentagon cancelled Obama's trip to see the troops, because it was perceived to be a political visit--which is against the rules. Had he visited the troops, McCain has already admitted he had a negative ad for "using the troops in a political campaign"....Dang dude, have some curiousity and find out the facts-- no need to rely on Faux News for everything.

--Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?--

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Notice how these slime-ball DEMS choose to knock me versus debate any of my posts and prove me wrong.

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:53 PM
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After I proved you to be wrong, ingnorant, and probably unable to read concerning the Clooney thing I decided it wasn't worth the trouble to continue embarrassing you.

You seem to have that covered.

Posted by: Lady Voter | August 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

It's high-time we throw Chevy under the bus...

Posted by: Voice of Reason | August 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter who gets elected! McCain and many of his senior wiser cohorts, adversaries, whatever has gotten us to this point in time...do people really think that seniority at presidency will bring about the change America so desperately needs? Do people really think that a black guy from Harvard with fewer years in government is going to solve America's problems? Bottom line the US 2008 election will be a vote for for the most popular guy...at this point in time...that's Obama. The country will go through it's woes like any other time in American history and be alright in the end...there are always going to be issues and more often than not ineffective solutions...america's state is what it is...no matter who wins! Effective government solutions will largely be an elusive task for any of these nominees!

Posted by: RealityCheck | August 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Okay folks here is the bottom line.
If you are on welfare, racist/commie, like being taxed to death, enjoy being jobless, senile, crazy or just an out and out idiot. Regardless of your age. Then you will be voting for O-blah-blah..

Posted by: Jaycee | August 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I have never seen so many rediculous and hateful posters for one article. I am astonished and ashamed that people can say such vitriol things. If you honestly believe that democrats, or any politicians for that matter are such phony's and socialists and are looking to intentionally and maliciously do harm to this country, you should be ashamed of yourself. I am not naive either, i'm just not blinded by a false sense of omnipresent conspiracy and partisanship. What happened to an honest debate about issues over disgusting baseless mud flinging. If you want to talk about how McCain is too old, or if you think that Obama is a "dirty muslim" fine, but 1. you're wrong, and 2. you're ingoring the issues and destoying any chance for real dicourse. These people are running for president, a position no blogger here could fill, we should respect the canidates, and respect ourselves by not believing the lies and insults and political gossip that's out there.

Posted by: commoncents | August 13, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

We're young voters and we're not voting Obama. We're voting Clinton.

Posted by: Stats | August 13, 2008 4:54 PM

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Did you know that Clinton is out of the race? She has even less a chance than McSame.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

obama is the man (Larry Sinclair says he is):

I am not a racist; I would have no problem voting for Alan Keyes.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Muslim Racist Hussein NoBama hucks a LUGGI at the White race

"My grandmother is a typical White person" Racist Barry Obama 03/21/2008.

Barry Obama spits in the face of the white race yet some low-lifes on here still support this racist pig.

You idiots that support this white hating racist have no shame.

You're the lowest of the lowest to have someone spit in your face and say "He's got my Vote"

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News


Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

We Now Know Barry Hussein Obama is a Baby Killer!

This racist dirtbag opposed a bill to protect the life of an infant who survived a late-term abortion.

Hussein Obama while Illinois state senator, opposed a state version of the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which passed the U.S. Senate in 2002 by a unanimous vote. The law prevents the killing of Babies.

Anyone supporting this dirtbag is an animal.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obamas_abortion_vulnerability.html

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama, You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot and maggots finish dead last.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

We're young voters and we're not voting Obama. We're voting Clinton.

Posted by: Stats | August 13, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Chevy-

Bought and paid for by the RNC

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Notice how these slime-ball DEMS choose to knock me versus debate any of my posts and prove me wrong.


They just don't like it when you post facts about their candidate that show him for the sicko he is

Make no mistake. Obama is about Obama and will spit on ayone that gets in his way.

well DEMS I spit back you spineless cowards.

If you hae any guts you would debate my posts vesus the personal insults.

Speaks volumes of the stock you maggot rear from.
Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

YO Barry,
There are many mutual funds that don't have BIG oil as part of there makeup. Check it out before you make more stoopid comments

Posted by: jfeliccia | August 13, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream, it's my nightmare. Crawling, slipping along the edge of a straight razor and surviving....But we must kill them, we must incinerate them, pig after pig, cow after cow, village after village, army after army, and they call me an assassin. What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin? They lie. They lie and we have to be merciful for those who lie, for those nabobs. I hate them. I do hate them." - Col. Kurtz

Big Oil, Big War, Big Tobacco, Big Lies

Posted by: Boomer Truth | August 13, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

**how dare you use wounded soldiers to play your venomous partisan poliical games! I never gave you permission to use my son as a part of your poisonous lies! **

Mike Brooks:

It's reasonable to assume that your son was at least 18 by the time he was wounded. Your permission is not needed.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain has spent the bulk of his campaigning on throwing aspersions and smears at senator Obama. Senator Obama on the otherhand has contained himself in all but the most serious attacks on his character. Who in their right mind would buy into a campaign that has to use celebrities in adds to belittle their opponent? Has to question whether an AMERICAN is AMERICAN ENOUGH? Or whether his family roots has ENOUGH WHITE in it?

These are all distractions! The purpose of which is to dig into our primitive psyche and bring out the worst in us. I say "enough already"!!! Get on with your policy speeches McCain and leave such childish behaviors behind. We are not children, but rather adults with a thirst for truth. We have one child in office now, we don't need another.

Posted by: germanguy | August 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Chevy--

For being "highly educated" you show about as much intellectual curiousity about the facts as GWB.

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Chevy:
You know, just because someone showed you how to cut and paste - and, God how often you cut and paste- and how to hyper link doesn't make you educated. You only feel that way because the rest of your family has the intelligence of algae.

Posted by: tanas | August 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Okay folks here is the bottom line.
If you are rich, racist/redneck, like being gouged, enjoy being jobless,senile, crazy or just an out and out idiot. Regardless of your age. Then you will be voting for the bushalike.

Posted by: jfeliccia | August 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Franky, you got it right. Keep up the good work.

I am stunned the over 65's dont get it that they wont have to pay fed taxes if they make less than $50K and they are on social security, if Obama wins.
McCain's lie, "Obama will raise taxes", has to be responded to, by us. The only people Obama will raise taxes on are the ones making over $250K, but especially those making over $2,9 million.
Those millionaires are the ones making out like bandits with Bush's giveaway to the rich plan.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | August 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama had embraced and participated in his church for numerous years, and only after pressure mounted on him does he choose to leave.

Obama did the same for Rev Wrong after his insane speeches surfaced on the net. Obama embraced him while throwing Grandma under the bus. Again only after pressure mounted did Obama throw Rev Wrong under the bus with Granny.

Aren't you liberal freaks tired of pretending that Obama is who he says he
is?

Chevy - Educated, Gun-Totin Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"I've now been in 57 states, I think one left to go. Alaska and Mexico" Barry Obama - LATimes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

The more I read that statement the more i'm convinced this nut has brain damage from his past, perhaps current drug use.

Chevy - Educated, Gun-Totin Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"

Jake D. Read it all of you delusional Repubs. First blog in the list. Nuff said.

Bill,
Honestly I could care less about your's or anyone else's 401K. I could care less about poor BIG OIL not having enough money for future exploration. Yeah like that would happen! 14 BILLION PROFIT in 1 quarter. C'MON. What I care about is having a president that is not run by any BIG anything? A president that dosen't get us into wars with other nations for OIL and their own agenda. Using lies, deception and fear mongering to do so.

Instead of worrying about poor BIG OILS bottom line by giving them tax breaks??!! HUH! Why aren't we giving HUGE tax breaks to alternate fuel initiatives that will actually get us new jobs and freedom from BIG OIL and any other entities that would have us depended so deeply on their products.

Please, common sense, by the time you get that rare quality we'll all be under 20 ft of water from the mess we have made of our environment.
"

So wait...you are going to depend on social security for your retirement? *chuckle* Have fun working until you're dead.

Posted by: Barry | August 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"Um, let me, let me, be, absolutely clear, uh, Israel, doh, is a strong friend of Israels." Barry Obama 072108

"Um, what a, you know, It's "always" a bad practice, doh, to say "always"" Barry Obama 072108

If it's always a bad practice to say "always" then why would you use the word "always" to say it's bad to say always?

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama, You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The over 65 group remembers Republicants for when they had ideas. It doesn't matter that those ideas were all bad, at least they had some ideas. But those under 65, all they remember of Republicants are lies, arrogance, slander, hypocrisy, incompetence, and mug shots.
Friends don't let friends vote Republicant.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Chevy - My son was *IN* the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, that hospital you refer to, having been wounded in Iraq! His Bradly was blown up by an IED and he as thrown around inside, suffering life threatening injuries to his back, arm, leg and head. One thing you and the other venomous cads ignore is that Obama was told he COULD NOT enter that base. Not, you can take your Secret Service detail only, but YOU CANNOT ENTER. Then, Obama spent two hours calling troops at that hospital and talking to them, including my son and the sons of other wounded soldiers. My son also was to receive the gift of a book written by Mr. Obama, but that was confiscated by the hospital commander who had the unmittigated gaul to state publically that Obama was not suited to be Commander In Chief! This incident brings up a whole slew of issues that the press has given the military brass and you snots a pass on, like: **how dare you use wounded soldiers to play your venomous partisan poliical games! I never gave you permission to use my son as a part of your poisonous lies! **what on earth are we doing, allowing some McCain partisan military swine to make partisan remarks, to USE wounded troops in such a disrespectful manner? As far as I am concerned, you sir have gone too far. If I could get my hands on you right now, I would treach you a bit about respect and patriotism and concern for our soldiers. You are nothing but a coward, a piece of low level trash, that doesn't deserve to even live in this country, much less spout off about patriotism to the rest of us. Go climb back under the rock you slunk from.

Posted by: Parent Of Wounded Vet | August 13, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"I was fortunate enough to vote for John Fitzgerald Kennedy, but I won't be voting for Barack Hussein Obama."

Ahhh now its clear, JakeD is a racist old fart

Posted by: obama is the man | August 13, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Chevy:
Did you already trade your food card in for cigarette and beer this month? You've got too much time on your hands, son. You spend a lot of time repeating what some right-wing Fauw-News or talk-radio right-wing wacko crammed down your throat.

Posted by: tanaS | August 13, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

DEM News the media will not print.

Muslim, Racist, Barry Hussein Obama is the DEMS first Black presidential candidate and it was created by a white woman who was all horned up one Night and decided to have a one-night Hump in Africa to a native tribesman who had multiple wifes.

It's important to bring this to light because the final product (Barry) is the sum of it's parts. And the parts ain't lookin all that good.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Good grief! The average life expectancy for a man in the U.S. is 73.6 years.

McCain will be 72 before the end of August 2008. Do we REALLY want to elect a man living on borrowed time?

Posted by: Lady Voter | August 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

This election is a no brainer. If you're voting McCain you're either a life long Republican that automatically votes for the personw ith the (R) next to their name, old and feeble minded and cant make proper decisions, a racist that doesnt know they're racist so they say things like , "he's a muslim and I dont trust him," or all of the above.

Based on issues alone John McCain has no chance. His skin color is keeping him in this race and nothing more.

BUt of course thats reverse racism right? :-D

Posted by: JN | August 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain did not graduate last in his class, and he's Irish-American too, as if that helps.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama, You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot.

Chevy


Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

McSame has bamboozled the media with his political celebrity- if they'd bother to do any investigating about his POW days they'd have a field day. Oh wait, Johnny had those POW records sealed in 1992 hurting those Vietnam Vets and families who wanted some/any information about their MIA/POW loved ones...Thanks Johnny-- come clean please and tell us what you're hiding

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

The "over-65" crowd better do a quick study on McGoo. He still wants to privitize Social Security.

Posted by: maxfli | August 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

President Barack Obama Contrast With Last Place McCain


Growing Up

Last Place McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

Last Place McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. Last Place McCain and McBush share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. Last Place McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush. Last Place McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

Last Place McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. Last Place McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of Last Place McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. Last Place McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be Last Place McCain’s modem of operations.


Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American Barack Obama for his dedication to the people.


Marriage

Last Place McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. Last Place McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush-Last Place McCain.


The World loves Irish-American Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American Barack Obama.

If Last Place McCain had to make an emergency landing on a deserted island with HARVARD LAW Irish-American Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that Last Place McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while HARVARD Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.


Navy pilot John Sidney Last Place McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, Last Place McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while Last Place McCain III was being held prisoner of war. Last Place McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, Last Place McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Last Place McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

Last Place McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

Last Place McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Last Place McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into Last Place McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

Last Place McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when Last Place McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. Last Place McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around Last Place McCain, spit on him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information, Last Place McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [Last Place McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that Last Place McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW Last Place McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded Last Place McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

Last Place McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since Last Place McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

Last Place McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

Last Place McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an oil-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East Last Place McCain is receiving large donations.

Posted by: GOP Last Place McFailure | August 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Wrong. Read Generations by Strauss and Howe, and NO, he is not a Boomer. He is a Gen X'er. Strauss himself said that Obama is a Gen X'er. Also, Obama disavows the politics of the Baby Boom Generation in his book. He does not identify with them and has spoken as a candidate wanting to DISTANCE himself from the Boomers, to bring in a new generation of leadership.

I've never seen a more sociological greedy group of people than the Boomers. If we left it all up to them, the Boomer Generation would span 50 years, and everyone not in that cohort would want to be exactly like them.

Posted by: RealityCheck | August 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

President Barack Obama Contrast With Last Place McCain


Growing Up

Last Place McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

Last Place McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. Last Place McCain and McBush share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. Last Place McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush. Last Place McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

Last Place McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. Last Place McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of Last Place McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. Last Place McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be Last Place McCain’s modem of operations.


Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American Barack Obama for his dedication to the people.


Marriage

Last Place McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. Last Place McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush-Last Place McCain.


The World loves Irish-American Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American Barack Obama.

If Last Place McCain had to make an emergency landing on a deserted island with HARVARD LAW Irish-American Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that Last Place McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while HARVARD Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.


Navy pilot John Sidney Last Place McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, Last Place McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while Last Place McCain III was being held prisoner of war. Last Place McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, Last Place McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Last Place McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

Last Place McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

Last Place McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Last Place McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into Last Place McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

Last Place McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when Last Place McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. Last Place McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around Last Place McCain, spit on him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information, Last Place McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [Last Place McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that Last Place McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW Last Place McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded Last Place McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

Last Place McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since Last Place McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

Last Place McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

Last Place McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an oil-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East Last Place McCain is receiving large donations.

Posted by: GOP Last Place McFailure | August 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Neither age nor race has anything to do with why most of us non-Obama fans will not be voting for him. His character and experience (or lack of each thereof) is why we will not be casting our votes for him. I suppose his supporters find it so incredible that everyone is not falling for his particular brand of b.s. and feel the need to invent reasons for it.

Posted by: Lily | August 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I get it. Anyone so feeble minded as those over 65 just can't handle voting for a black man. They are anti-black if they don't jump on the Obama bandwagon and it is a function of their racist upbringing. Is that the story? I am offended by that. I wasn't so old either when JFK inspired us even though I now qualify for Medicare. It is somewhat amazing that I can still feed myself without help and manage to fool people into thinking I'm not quite ready for a nursing home. In all seriousness I'm still a bit worried about how Obama will do as president. He doesn't really have much experience and he does not excite me. But pleeeze! Do you really think I'm going to vote for MCBush even at my advanced age and with my addled mind? I'm not that stupid.

Posted by: just a woman | August 13, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama, You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows.

You make me SICK!!

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot.

Chevy


Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

RealityCheck:

Demographically, Obama is a Baby Boomer. He was born in 1961.

How about incorporating some Fact Checking in with that Reality Checking.

Posted by: NoVA | August 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Is this a joke? We can't afford the promises and don't swoon for celebs. Nor, can we "believe" in the diplomatic kumbaya principal...ask the foreign Georgians.

Posted by: La.LiveOak | August 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Who is Chevy?

Posted by: Greg | August 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I just think that Chevy think he is "highly educated" When you are a redneck, highly educated is very relaitve, and it basically means that you know how to spell "arithmetic"

Posted by: King | August 13, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I can only hope that by obfuscating the facts Shorty McCain can be elected President. I know that racists can be depended upon to vote Republican, but what about voters with the intelligence higher than a dead flea?
McCain must keep saying that Obama is not truly representative of what an American is. White voters will know what McCain means. By appealing to redneck racists the GOP might win this Fall.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

This whole idea of 'big oil' is dumb because 70% of oil profits go to mutual fund investors and people who are in a pension plan at work. WE are big oil!

Posted by: Rick F | August 13, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

At 27 I trust myself to know a complete opportunistic phony when I see and hear one. Obama is the epitome of each. What has he accomplished in his life as a legislator; virtually nothing. After the revelations of his racist views, communists alliances, corrupt affiliations, and particularly if he was white, we wouldn't even know his name at this point in the election process but it makes great media (more readers, listeners, and viewers) with him being black. Maybe it's just that the older folks as a rule can spot a fake easier than most of us younger people.

Posted by: robt | August 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

More fear-mongering and desperation.

"force was what the Soviets responded as we learned when Reagan came along"

I'm pretty sure it was a collapsed economy that did them.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Chevy did you even READ the article you posted about Clooney and Obama?

Maybe you should. You'll see that you don't know what your talking about.

Posted by: Lady Voter | August 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

"I've now been in 59 states, I think one left to go. Alaska and Mexico" Barry Obama - LATimes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

LOL and the little libbies wonder why Racist Barry Obama is tanking.

LOL LOL 59 states with Mexico being one of them?

Just Brilliant Barry

Chevy - Highly Educated Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't suppose President elect Obama's lack of support from the oldsters has anything to do with his being an empty suit whose only claim to fame is an ability to give a great speech.

Nahhh, its gotta be racism.


For letting Barack keep the change,

Packard

Posted by: Packard | August 13, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Muslim Racist Hussein NoBama hucks a LUGGI at the White race

"My grandmother is a typical White person" Racist Barry Obama 03/21/2008.

Barry Obama spits in the face of the white race yet some low-lifes on here still support this racist pig.

You idiots that support this white hating racist have no shame.

You're the lowest of the lowest to have someone spit in your face and say "He's got my Vote"

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

First of all most people who support Obama have not taken anytime to find out who he is and what he is really about. Most don't realize that he is a big supporter of partial-birth abortions basically baby killing, also he is only 6.5% black, 50% white and the rest Arab, check his fathers birth certficate. Also Obama was born and raised a Muslim and learned the Koran and to speak Arabic all of which he deny's for some reason. Obama is pulling the wool over most American's eyes and thinks most Americans are dumb and lazy and will just vote for him because of his celeberity status.

Posted by: Ken | August 13, 2008 4:24 PM

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"First of all most people who support Obama have not taken anytime to find out who he is and what he is really about".

What the hell more do you need to know? I can't believe there are still idiots like you out there.

Posted by: Greg | August 13, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Okay... let's get some things straight.

Those 65 and older are NOT The Greatest Generation. They're in the Silent Generation.

Here's Strauss and Howes' breakdown of generations, for your reference:

GI Generation: 1901-1924
Silent Generation: 1925-1942
Baby Boom Generation: 1943-1960
Generation X (13'ers): 1961-1981
Millenials: 1981-2001


Posted by: RealityCheck | August 13, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The only way to defeat Big Oil is to create renewables.

Big Oil knows this, that is why they are paying McCain to run for president. He will stop any policies that Big Oil thinks will hurt their profits.

That is why Big Oil does not want Obama to win. Obama will promote renewables, and Big Oil will slowly fall in line, or fall apart.

Posted by: Tim | August 13, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama's a marxist socialist pure and simple. McCain can not be honest or fourthright with his policies (i.e. illegal immigration) The two political parties have once again given us a two loser or the lessor of two evils to vote for. Where are the United States best leaders? 4 out of 10 registered voters still don't have a clue of who to vote for. I can relate to this because both Obama and McCain can not be trusted and both will lead this country in the wrong direction. This country is in big trouble. Maybe its time to consider breaking this country up. Give the socialist the west coast, give the conservatives the east coast, the rest of us just live in the middle keeping peace between the two sides.

Posted by: Terry | August 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Older Americans and particularly men, have seen their share of snake-oil salesman in US politics. Huey Long who promised hope and change in the 1930's and who had a choke-hold on Louisiana politics comes to mind. Henry Wallace who challenged Truman in 1948 was another- he believed in "negotiation" with the Soviets although force was what the Soviets responded as we learned when Reagan came along. Incidentally both Long and Wallace were Democrats as is John Edwards another leftwing phony. Up to now the American people have had the wits to turn away from the blandishments of those who want to sell them the latest brand of snake oil. The spoiled younger generation that is completely ignorant of what this country is all about and that is blinded by celebrity is what I worry about.

Posted by: mhr | August 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

First of all most people who support Obama have not taken anytime to find out who he is and what he is really about. Most don't realize that he is a big supporter of partial-birth abortions basically baby killing, also he is only 6.5% black, 50% white and the rest Arab, check his fathers birth certficate. Also Obama was born and raised a Muslim and learned the Koran and to speak Arabic all of which he deny's for some reason. Obama is pulling the wool over most American's eyes and thinks most Americans are dumb and lazy and will just vote for him because of his celeberity status.

Posted by: Ken | August 13, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I am a black man in my 40's and this is how I feel about the seniors who are skeptical about voting for Obama. It true that age is wisdom in many cases. I think that the senior citizens are wise enough to know that Obama DOES NOT truly share much of the values they (seniors) hold. One of the truths which the press is not letting the public know is that Obama is one of the most liberal democrats in the US senate. Obama is also arrogant--condemning everything other leaders have done (include many of the current national security measures that are being implemented which have helped in some ways to protect this nation against an unknown enemy. Some of the same current national security measures have created some save environments and save conditions that even Obama himself has been benefiting from but yet he never gives other people any credit but mostly condemns the same system, portraying himself as the ONLY person with the single answer to everything). Also the seniors know pretty well that electing such an arrogant, a liberal, and an inexperience candidate will pose a cloud of uncertainty for the future of this great country, which these seniors have lived for years with the kind of sound moral values that may probably be mitigated under an ultra-liberal leadership. To sum up everything the seniors will feel more comfortable to elect someone with their own value system and someone who is more experienced to lead this country. Finally the seniors would rather elect someone who has actually suffered and sacrificed more for this country and someone with the track record of service with dignity to this country. The seniors are indeed voting their conscience and they seem to not be moved by all the empty noise and rhetoric in the political marketplace.

Posted by: Jimmy | August 13, 2008 4:20 PM

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"Obama is arrogant". "I am a black man in my 40". Give me a break. Its this Chevy?

Posted by: Greg | August 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I found this article to be surprisingly even-handed considering its headlines. As a former journalist, I understand the pressures to "sex" up a headline to attract notice but the real point of this story is, by the author's own admission, not that Obama is down with voters over 65 but that he is running so well with voters under that esteemed age bracket. McCain and his supporters should really be the ones reading this article. Is any headline with Obama simply more likely to be read?

Posted by: Morgan | August 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Why would folks from the "greatest generation"...vote Johnny "the Songbird" McBush?? it makes no sense-- people are outraged that Obama "doesn't place his hand over his heart or wear a flag lapel pin" that is hilarious, when we have a short, balding, wrinkly curmudgeon who committed treasonous acts while a POW in Hanoi-- giving aid and comfort to enemy. Instead of name, rank, serial number or commit suicide or even give fake info--- he sang!...He could be even scarier than the Bush regime, even though the same folks who are pulling Bush's strings are now doing the same for McSame...God help us all if we elect Lt. Commander McCain-- who also happened to be Lt. Commander McCain when he got out of POW status-- when it was customary to elevate POW's by at least 1 or 2 ranks when they were released-- He refused early release: oh my how noble and honorable-- how could he live with himself with his daddy being Admiral...how could he even be in politics if he took THAT special treatment- did he really have a choice??....How did he get to be a pilot at all? near the bottom of his 494 person class-- he crashes 5 planes!! -- oh yeah, pop's an Admiral-- talk about elitist-- let's commit adultery with a drug-addicted beer heiress, while my crippled wife lies on a hospital bed---classy Johnny

Greatest Generation please do not be hoodwinked by the fraud know as McCain!!

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Today Muslim Racist Nobama says open oil reservers.

Yesterday it was go to the gas station and fill up with AIR

Tomorrow it will be pull out the old Schwin Bike.

What an idiot. Beats SNL

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

When was Obama vetted ?

Same bunch that did Edwards?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

Posted by: rtfanning | August 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I am a black man in my 40's and this is how I feel about the seniors who are skeptical about voting for Obama. It true that age is wisdom in many cases. I think that the senior citizens are wise enough to know that Obama DOES NOT truly share much of the values they (seniors) hold. One of the truths which the press is not letting the public know is that Obama is one of the most liberal democrats in the US senate. Obama is also arrogant--condemning everything other leaders have done (include many of the current national security measures that are being implemented which have helped in some ways to protect this nation against an unknown enemy. Some of the same current national security measures have created some save environments and save conditions that even Obama himself has been benefiting from but yet he never gives other people any credit but mostly condemns the same system, portraying himself as the ONLY person with the single answer to everything). Also the seniors know pretty well that electing such an arrogant, a liberal, and an inexperience candidate will pose a cloud of uncertainty for the future of this great country, which these seniors have lived for years with the kind of sound moral values that may probably be mitigated under an ultra-liberal leadership. To sum up everything the seniors will feel more comfortable to elect someone with their own value system and someone who is more experienced to lead this country. Finally the seniors would rather elect someone who has actually suffered and sacrificed more for this country and someone with the track record of service with dignity to this country. The seniors are indeed voting their conscience and they seem to not be moved by all the empty noise and rhetoric in the political marketplace.

Posted by: Jimmy | August 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

In light of the shooting of the Democratic State Chairman for Arkansas, and the killing of "liberals", in the words of the killer of the Unitarians, can anyone anymore not accept that Dems are targets of the Neo-Nazis of the GOP?

Posted by: tanaS | August 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I keep hearing all of these fluffed up reasons as to why Obama isn't reaching the uneducated white working class and the over 65 whites. It's not rocket science.

The uneducated, poor whites and over 65 whites tend to be the most racists. The uneducated, poor are bitter because they blame blacks (for some reason) for their poverty and get upset we they see some of us doing well (or running for president).

The over 65 whites are the same whites who demanded that blacks not sit in the same restaurants, swim in the same pools, or use the same restrooms and water fountains. So why does it seem to take all of this study and research to figure out why they don't want a black man to be President?

Posted by: Lady Voter | August 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

When was Obama vetted ?

Same bunch that did Edwards?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

Posted by: rtfanning | August 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I am a black man in my 40's and this is how I feel about the seniors who are skeptical about voting for Obama. It true that age is wisdom in many cases. I think that the senior citizens are wise enough to know that Obama DOES NOT truly share much of the values they (seniors) hold. One of the truths which the press is not letting the public know is that Obama is one of the most liberal democrats in the US senate. Obama is also arrogant--condemning everything other leaders have done (include many of the current national security measures that are being implemented which have helped in some ways to protect this nation against an unknown enemy. Some of the same current national security measures have created some save environments and save conditions that even Obama himself has been benefiting from but yet he never gives other people any credit but mostly condemns the same system, portraying himself as the ONLY person with the single answer to everything). Also the seniors know pretty well that electing such an arrogant, a liberal, and an inexperience candidate will pose a cloud of uncertainty for the future of this great country, which these seniors have lived for years with the kind of sound moral values that may probably be mitigated under an ultra-liberal leadership. To sum up everything the seniors will feel more comfortable to elect someone with their own value system and someone who is more experienced to lead this country. Finally the seniors would rather elect someone who has actually suffered and sacrificed more for this country and someone with the track record of service with dignity to this country. The seniors are indeed voting their conscience and they seem to not be moved by all the empty noise and rhetoric in the political marketplace.

Posted by: Jimmy | August 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Hussein Nobama Political Expierence comes to light.

Hollywood Actor Geroge Clooney = Obama #1 political advisor....LOL LOL

Obama nailed again - Acquiring the services of none other then Hollywood actor George Clooney - male version of Babs on foeign and domestic affairs.

It is now known they meet daily and discuss national security issues as well as domestic.

McCain - You can have a field day with this - take the ball and run with it and show what a jackass this idiot is

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1043164/How-Clooney-offers-good-friend-Obama-advice-issues-body-language-Iraq.html

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Do you know who owns "Big Oil"? They are stockholders who have investment portfolios, IRA's and 401K's. Compare the profit margins of "Big Oil" with any other corporation and you will see that they are in line or lower. Oil companies simply have more sales volume and expenses than other corporations. What would be the result of Obama's stupid windfall profits tax? Higher prices for consumers because the tax would be passed on. Lower investment in oil companies resulting in less exploration. Try using a little common sense."

Why? Why would the oil companies be able to pass it on? They make more profit in 3 months then any other company ever in recorded history. Are you saying they can't afford to be tax fairly like the rest of the companies? Are you saying they DESERVE to have so many tax cuts from the past administration?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

So, is the Post ever going to get serious about its comment boards and take measure to stop all of this off-topic spam?

Also, nice headline. McCain is the one boxed into a single age demographic, but its Obama who is in trouble and playing "Generational Politics". I know having Obama in the headline generates at least 2x as many clickthroughs, but come on.

Posted by: Atlanta, GA | August 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I though Ronald Regan was the Messiah appointed by Sean Hannity.

Posted by: greg. | August 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, Boomers. Say it: "Obama is a Gen X'er..." I know it's hard to admit, but you can do it!

;)

Posted by: RealityCheck | August 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

At 67, I am a huge Obama supporter. I would hope that we "older folks" would show the wisdom to realize the US cannot afford four more years of Bush/McCain.

Posted by: David Jimerson | August 13, 2008 3:07 PM
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I hope voters, regardless of age, have the wisdom to realize that BUSH is not running.

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | August 13, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

JakeD and Chevy are at it again.

Count how many times they comment with only smears and name calling.

Then count how many times they bring up facts about McCain.

Then consider why they hate Obama so much.

Then, after you realize they are total asshats, completely disregard everything they say.

Posted by: Tim | August 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Of course Americans are worse off than we were 8 years ago.

And if the country is foolish enough to elect "Mr. Negative" McCain, we'll be even worse off four years from now than we are today!

I have a strong idea which boomers you're polling

This boomer (51), a lifelong Democrat,
My husband (53) a lifelong Independent,
My Iowa-dwelling sister (52) a lifelong Republican,
My sister's husband (56), a lifelong Republican,
My Georgia-dwelling stepsister (53), a lifelong Democrat,
My stepsister's husband (55), a lifelong Independent,
My Virginia-dwelling stepsister (55), a Democrat turned Republican, and
My stepsister's husband (65), a lifelong Republican

all disagree (with their non-boomer parents) on one thing and one thing only:

We're all voting for Obama.

Posted by: gmeierhoff | August 13, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

>I would never vote for anyone who won't hold his hand over his >heart when we sing the national anthem, wear a flag pin, or >respect the pledge of allegiance

How is it that people still believe those lies? Some people will believe anything they read in an email forward. Why don't they do some research on their own and try to find the truth behind these false statements? It's sad that some people are so ignorant.

Posted by: Jackson | August 13, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama, You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm a 27 year old black male and my only question is why do you hate us so much? Where we not good enough slaves?

I guess not being your African brother is the one that sold you.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:07 PM

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I love you Chevy, you make so easy.

Posted by: greg | August 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Chevy,

"educated redneck" is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Tim | August 13, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

JERK wrote:

the scary part is that if McOld wins it is going to be Cindy who is going to run the government since McOld cannot even remember what he was briefed on a day before.
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Apparently you are unaware of the fact that Nelson Mandela was 6 years older than McCain is now when he first took office in South Africa.

Luckily, the people of South Africa were much smarter - and less discriminatory - than the people Obama pays to blog for him.

Posted by: gmeierhoff | August 13, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Chevy,

Don't sweat it. There are more than enough white guys like me to offset the knuckleheads. Obama is winning this election. And racism is on the decline in America, and that trend will continue.

There are a lot of knuckleheads in the world, but if you let them get to you then you'll never sleep well at night. Don't let them beat you.

Posted by: JR, Boston | August 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

We Now Know Barry Hussein Obama is a Baby Killer!

This racist dirtbag opposed a bill to protect the life of an infant who survived a late-term abortion.

Hussein Obama while Illinois state senator, opposed a state version of the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which passed the U.S. Senate in 2002 by a unanimous vote. The law prevents the killing of Babies.

Anyone supporting this dirtbag is an animal.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obamas_abortion_vulnerability.html

Posted by: chevy | August 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Will older voters continue to support McCain when they find out what he really plans to do with social security?

He wants to appoint a commission to come up with a plan to "save" social security. These commissions are appointed by politicans who don't have the guts to make the hard decisions themselves and want to evade responsibility. The commission will be told that any meaningful increase in payroll taxes on the wealthy as proposed by Obama is off the table, leaving only one solution, cut benefits. Everyone who studies the issue knows how this will play out. Nobody wants to let the seniors know what they will get with McCain because it has become bad form to "scare the seniors." They should be scared.

Posted by: bgjd1979 | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

We are all better off now then we were eight years ago. Our economy is booming; we have a budget surplus; we have friendly relations with countries all over the globe, and we're at peace. Take that Obamamanics!

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican nominee strode to the microphone for the first of several blistering statements condemning Russia's moves, delivering his comments well before President Bush spoke publicly about the incident.

"Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory," he said, interrupted by the sound of jets taking off. "

OK, how come we are not hearing anything about McCain's presumptive BS? Huh? The uppity black man speaks confidently and the morons and media portray him as egotistic and stepping out of his bounds. What? Because McCain is white no one sees this as entirely hypocritical? Pathetic!

Posted by: mjo757 | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

NO, age is not the main problem for The Messiah of the Lost and Vapid - Obama. He is too liberal. Period. Dear God, how difficult can this be??

Posted by: muskrat | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

JERK wrote:

the scary part is that if McOld wins it is going to be Cindy who is going to run the government since McOld cannot even remember what he was briefed on a day before.
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Apparently, you are not aware that Nelson Mandela was 6 years older than McCain when he took office in South Africa.

Luckily, South Africans were a little smarter - and a little less discriminatory - than the people Obama pays to blog for him.


Posted by: gmeierhoff | August 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

My mom is 80 and I do the voting for her and some her friends.

No way am I pulling the Obama lever and what they can't see wont hurt them.

Ha Ha Ha ha!!

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

JakeD and Republican apologists -- this trains a comin' through, you can bloviate all you want, but that won't stop it.

Posted by: mountainman | August 13, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm a 27 year old black male and my only question is why do you hate us so much? Where we not good enough slaves?

I guess not being your African brother is the one that sold you.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

>I would never vote for anyone who won't hold his hand over his >heart when we sing the national anthem, wear a flag pin, or >respect the pledge of allegiance

How is it that people still believe those lies? Some people will believe anything they read in an email forward. Why don't they do some research on their own and try to find the truth behind these false statements? It's sad that some people are so ignorant.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

the scary part is that if McOld wins it is going to be Cindy who is going to run the government since McOld cannot even remember what he was briefed on a day before.

Posted by: jerk | August 13, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Daisy,
If your not on meds. Please get to a shrink and get some.

Posted by: jfeliccia | August 13, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Of course Americans are worse off than we were 8 years ago.

And if the country is foolish enough to elect "Promise 'Em Everything but Deliver Nothing" Obama, we'll be even worse off four years from now than we are today!

I have no idea which boomers you're polling (perhaps the William Ayers crowd?), but:

This boomer (51), a lifelong Democrat,
My husband (53) a lifelong Independent,
My Iowa-dwelling sister (52) a lifelong Republican,
My sister's husband (56), a lifelong Republican,
My Georgia-dwelling stepsister (53), a lifelong Democrat,
My stepsister's husband (55), a lifelong Independent,
My Virginia-dwelling stepsister (55), a Democrat turned Republican, and
My stepsister's husband (65), a lifelong Republican

all agree (with their non-boomer parents) on one thing and one thing only:

We're all voting for McCain.

Posted by: gmeierhoff | August 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Post to Daisy: Do your homework. Obama puts his hand over his heart when reciting the pledge. Certainly you are smart enough not to believe every smear email that finds its way into your inbox. Get a clue.

Posted by: voter4_change | August 13, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

In the 21st century, US will be the only country on earth where a presidential candidate does not know how to use the internet. Even the sheiks in Arab knows how to use internet.

Posted by: john | August 13, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I noticed something the Anti Obama folks.
They seem like angry folks that cling to their guns and the bible. Hmmmm.

Posted by: William | August 13, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I am 64 years old and am voting for Obama. We can not stand 4 more years of the neocon policies advocated by Bush and McCain. Our country's foreign policy and economy are in bad shape and more of the same is not going to fix it. McCain sees military action as the solution to all problems. I should be clear that we need diplomacy first and we also need to avoid overcommitting our military as we are doing now. We need to pick our battles and focus on those that are really important. Invading Iraq was the wrong thing to do and we are now living with the consequences. McCain keeps talking about his qualifications to be commander-in-chief as if that were the only role of the president. He doesn't get it that the president has many other roles such as managing the federal government, providing services, law enforcement and justice in accordance with the law, working with congress to ensure the economy is viable and fair and so forth. Any senior citizen who thinks McCain is on their side needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | August 13, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

These dumb old white gun-toting cracker racists will never support Obama, no matter how smart he is. Luckily they will soon be gone and Obama can transform this country!

Posted by: pgr88 | August 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

If you are over 65 you should not vote.

Posted by: SlappyWhite | August 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Daisy says:

"I would never vote for anyone who won't hold his hand over his heart when we sing the national anthem, wear a flag pin, or respect the pledge of allegiance"

Remarkable, three lies in one sentence.

Posted by: bgjd1979 | August 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Jake D. Read it all of you delusional Repubs. First blog in the list. Nuff said.

Bill,
Honestly I could care less about your's or anyone else's 401K. I could care less about poor BIG OIL not having enough money for future exploration. Yeah like that would happen! 14 BILLION PROFIT in 1 quarter. C'MON. What I care about is having a president that is not run by any BIG anything? A president that dosen't get us into wars with other nations for OIL and their own agenda. Using lies, deception and fear mongering to do so.

Instead of worrying about poor BIG OILS bottom line by giving them tax breaks??!! HUH! Why aren't we giving HUGE tax breaks to alternate fuel initiatives that will actually get us new jobs and freedom from BIG OIL and any other entities that would have us depended so deeply on their products.

Please, common sense, by the time you get that rare quality we'll all be under 20 ft of water from the mess we have made of our environment.

Posted by: jfeliccia | August 13, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I would never vote for anyone who won't hold his hand over his heart when we sing the national anthem, wear a flag pin, or respect the pledge of allegiance
I don't care if the candidate is black, yellow, white, or green. Color doesn't matter, PATRIOTISM does.
Obama in my opinion is a racist in every sense of the word, with the ability to 'sell' himself to the American public. It amazes me what the ignorant will 'buy'.

Posted by: Daisy | August 13, 2008 3:51 PM

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Thank you Daisy. Now take you medicine and lie down. Good Girl

Posted by: william | August 13, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain’s presumptuous response to Georgia-Russia conflict reveals that he wants to “out-Bush” Bush himself! It’s a scary thought that this senile is running to become commander-in-chief! He wants to continue “go-alone”-- failed Bush approach. He has neither the right temperament nor sound judgment needed for a world stage issue like this one. He circled himself a neo-con lobbyist cabal with a Mafia-mindset, who advocate for narrow interests. For example, McCain's top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, was until March a registered lobbyist for the Republic of Georgia. His firm continues to work on behalf of Georgia today. In 2006, lobbyist Scheunemann accompanied McCain on a trip to Georgia. And since Friday, McCain and Scheunemann have been issuing bellicose pronouncements on behalf of Georgia [in effect lobbying] in its conflict with Russia over the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia. However neither of them mentioned that Scheunemann was a Georgian lobbyist!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS FOR WHITE AND JEWISH GUY "PETER"

obama campaign people are so naive. They start with "I am jew and white" or "I am women and white" or "I am white and over 65".....u think others are that stupid not to figure out that every time the polls show weakness for a particular group the posts start with color of skin, gender and age...hehehehhehehehehhe

its the presidency of USA...my guess is that this media darling will win it, but he's gonna be the biggest clown in the white house; bigger then Bush. I already see the similarities. He is nervous in front of live audience/town hall kind format, Obama doesn't wanna get caught offgaurd (just like Bush in 2000)....his response to a little girl, inflate the tires, cling to guns and religion.........looks like the time to move to Canada is right around the corner.

Posted by: tyrone | August 13, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

The biggest reason why he's not doing better: you can't trust him.

Posted by: Toxic Avenger | August 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I axe you 2 vote 4 da brother Obama. he give us 40 acars and mules.

Dem white honkey cracka no good. day whip and hang us

KaKeeka LaMeKa

Posted by: Ka KeeKa | August 13, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I would never vote for anyone who won't hold his hand over his heart when we sing the national anthem, wear a flag pin, or respect the pledge of allegiance
I don't care if the candidate is black, yellow, white, or green. Color doesn't matter, PATRIOTISM does.
Obama in my opinion is a racist in every sense of the word, with the ability to 'sell' himself to the American public. It amazes me what the ignorant will 'buy'.

Posted by: Daisy | August 13, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a problem with older voters, because we can see through his BS. The young mush heads are still naive and will swallow Obama's "change" message, even though there isnt any difference between him and the other losers the democrats have run for the past twenty years.
Anyone who says he's different is either stupid or lying....or both.

Posted by: LarryG | August 13, 2008 3:46 PM

************************* Not all older voters. And they can't see through McCain's bs?

Posted by: William | August 13, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Vote for da brother. I axe you to sneer the white cracka, day O us.

LaKeKA ShaNeKa

Posted by: LakeKa | August 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

This election is not only racial but generational. Obama supporters seem to discount the huge elderly popualtion as if they don't count. In fact, the elderly are the only group that can be counted on to vote.

But what Obama does not recognize is:
1.)Elderly voters typically vote out of loyalty and familiarity as well as values.They typically vote straight party line unlike Dems and Indpendants.
2.)Elderly voters do not like "change".
3.)Low income elderly voters do not typically pay taxes so the taxfree idea is moot.
4.)White elderly voters are less likely to vote for a black candidate.
5.)Many elderly are rural farmers and housewives that Barack called "bitter" and "clinging to religion and guns".He shot himself in the foot on that remark.
6.)There are millions of elderly in the nursing homes and assisted living centers that still vote religiously Republican and have their TV sets locked on FOX News.

Posted by: Cheryl | August 13, 2008 3:27 PM


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Frightening but true. Its up to the young to come out this time. To some of the elderly, voting is a outing and a event for them. And its true, I often see FOX News locked on the TV room at my mother's senior citizen lounge and they can't change it.

Posted by: GREG | August 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a problem with older voters, because we can see through his BS. The young mush heads are still naive and will swallow Obama's "change" message, even though there isnt any difference between him and the other losers the democrats have run for the past twenty years.
Anyone who says he's different is either stupid or lying....or both.

Posted by: LarryG | August 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"David Jimerson:

I don't agree that we are worse off now than 8 years ago."

I take it you don't follow the news or the economy much.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm a 27 year old black male and my only question is why do you hate us so much? Where we not good enough slaves? Or did we not bend to the will of jim crow enough for you? I mean really. What have black men done in this country but hurt ourselves? Please lets all get along and give a black man a chance. He can't be any worse than GWB that SOB. Give us a chance and you will see that we are all pretty much the same gift in a different box.

Posted by: dantefromdc | August 13, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

a new age of reason is desperately needed.
Senator Obama's gifted mind is the one to vote4. period.

Posted by: lea | August 13, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"I can sense the fear in the Obama camp.."

I think what you are no doubt sensing is the desperation from the Republican camp.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes!! I can vision it now! Obama the gimmick man texting us all about his detailed fiscal policies, defense plans, energy solutions..Hey even better! He can write a book about it all..that should take about 4 years and then of course we will all understand.
He is a fake. There is no real Obama. He is just an IPOD skin, that was downloaded to the Democratic Party. What a farce!

Posted by: dragonfly777 | August 13, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't this yesterday's news? What about Grandpa McSame's generational problems with the younger voters?

Posted by: Sara B. | August 13, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain should seize on Obama's deficit of support among voters over 65 by picking Hillary Clinton as his GOP running mate. But if gasoline prices at the pump are real high come November -- say $9 or $10 per gallon -- it won't matter who the nominees for President are in either party. Voters will go to the polls to vote against Republicans.
Sterling Greenwood
Aspen Free Press

Posted by: AspenFreePress | August 13, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I will be 69 in 10 days. I am white and Jewish and I will be voting for Senator Obama this November.

Rather than fall into the trap of status quo, I am always curious and always interested in new things. Call it change if you wish.

What is more important is that I will not allow prejudice to inform my thinking, my decisions, or the way I relate to other people. It is sad to see so many senior consumed by prejudice whether based on race, gender, sexual orientation, age, economic status, or ethnic origins, etc.

I wish that folks, especially some senior, would put away prejudice and see the new day.

Posted by: Peter | August 13, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

The main reason Obama is not ahead is that he is a terrible candidate.

Posted by: ConcernedCitizenX | August 13, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

David Jimerson:

I don't agree that we are worse off now than 8 years ago.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Franky....I agree with you 100%. Republicans and those Democrats (for Mccain) better step back and look at the facts. These are very serious times in the U.S. and Obama can not do any worse then what Bush has done in the last eight years!

Posted by: JW | August 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

If McCain gets elected he'll raise the taxes on Depends adult diapers. He said so in his last interview.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Jakel,

We couldn't! Look how much worse off we are now. It will take your children and grand-children YEARS to pay off the mess Bush/Cheney have created.

Posted by: David Jimerson | August 13, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

shiva7:

Please, PLEASE, keep up with the age attacks.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

This election is not only racial but generational. Obama supporters seem to discount the huge elderly popualtion as if they don't count. In fact, the elderly are the only group that can be counted on to vote.

But what Obama does not recognize is:
1.)Elderly voters typically vote out of loyalty and familiarity as well as values.They typically vote straight party line unlike Dems and Indpendants.
2.)Elderly voters do not like "change".
3.)Low income elderly voters do not typically pay taxes so the taxfree idea is moot.
4.)White elderly voters are less likely to vote for a black candidate.
5.)Many elderly are rural farmers and housewives that Barack called "bitter" and "clinging to religion and guns".He shot himself in the foot on that remark.
6.)There are millions of elderly in the nursing homes and assisted living centers that still vote religiously Republican and have their TV sets locked on FOX News.

Posted by: Cheryl | August 13, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The old, little Warmonger has another problem with his "base" that the article fails to point out. A large number of them will have died of old age by November 4th, as could McBush himself. An equally large number are too confused to remember that there is an election. As for young and middle aged voters flocking to Barack, why would they possibly vote for someone older than their own grand parents? I mean it is great to take your children to visit grand parents but they are not exactly what you think of as being fit to be President. Even if you overlook that McBush is a lying, adulterous, physically ruined, emotionally deranged fraud, he is just too old.


Posted by: shiva7 | August 13, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

william:

I would have no problem voting for Alan Keyes.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:12 PM

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Yeah, Right

Posted by: William | August 13, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Inclusion, hard work, service, pride in country and family, these are the hallmarks of Obama's supremely American life story.Obama's core values reflect those of my family and of every American family I know.
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Inclusion, pride in country?? then please explain how he could go to a church that preached God Damn America and the gov't created the AIDS virus to kill Blacks for 20 YEARS??? How could he call it's preacher his friend and mentor??? His actions don't reflect the core values of ANY American family I know...

Posted by: rss | August 13, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

It's Just Me and Bill:

Good points : )

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

David Jimerson:

I thought that "American couldn't afford" 4 more years of Bush-Cheney in 2004? At least come up with a new slogan this time around.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jim F,
Do you know who owns "Big Oil"? They are stockholders who have investment portfolios, IRA's and 401K's. Compare the profit margins of "Big Oil" with any other corporation and you will see that they are in line or lower. Oil companies simply have more sales volume and expenses than other corporations. What would be the result of Obama's stupid windfall profits tax? Higher prices for consumers because the tax would be passed on. Lower investment in oil companies resulting in less exploration. Try using a little common sense.

Posted by: Bill | August 13, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I would not vote for Obama where I voted for Clinton twice. Obama is so far to the left that he makes FDR look like a conservative. He will not find his answers with more mature Americans in Das Kapital.

Posted by: It's Just Me | August 13, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Rohit_33410:

Youngsters born after 1973 are abortion holocaust survivors, so it's really is no mystery why younger people would support McCain too.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

MrRex:

I don't like John Sidney McCain III either, but given the choice between him and Barack Hussein Obama, there's no doubt.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

If one moves beyond labels and looks at McCain's fiscal policies - they are extremenly irresponsible - perpetuating and even deepening the tax cuts which will only add to the huge deficit that "younger" folks will have to deal with for decades to come.

Similarly his hawkish military views jeopardize the lives of our young soldiers in prolonged Iraq conflict as well as possible new actions in Iran etc.

It really is no mystery why younger people would support Obama

Posted by: Rohit_33410 | August 13, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

william:

I would have no problem voting for Alan Keyes.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I will be 65, and I am against BO. Not because of his color or his age. I oppose him for the way in which he stood by silently while his opponent suffered sexual insults, and prejudicial behavior while his surrogates feigned outrage at any mention of race. A lot about him as a man was revealed by his inaction. I think it has something to do with the issue of "character", but maybe I'm wrong.
Problem is I don't like what McCain haas morphed into, so a problem presents itself that will not easil be resolved.

Posted by: MrRex | August 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The reason many 'older folks' don't like Obama is because he represents change. At least thats what he talks about a lot and is his campaign slogan.
A lot of people over 60, and retirees, like to keep the status quo, as long as it doesn't affect them too much. They don't like change, lets face it. That's why many support McCain, because he doesn't represent change, and wants to keep things as they are. That's why they voted for Bush twice, and are called 'conservative. They want to keep things as they are
Take it from me, I know
A Seventy something kid--hoping for change

Posted by: Tetamalu | August 13, 2008 3:04 PM

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A black man in the White House is too much change for older folks.

Posted by: william | August 13, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Dianne72 | August 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I can sense the fear in the Obama camp...

The Messiah has no clothes!

Posted by: UnitedWeStand | August 13, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Tired, Stress Out, Angry, Trouble Sleeping

Say Goodbye to FOX, C-SPAN, MSNBC, CNN opinionated news and all the talking heads. Say goodbye to Bill, Sean, Joe, Keith, Lou, Chris, Charles, and all the rest. .
These folks don’t care about you. They just want ratings at your expense.

Try something different starting tonight. Turn off these stations, listen to music, talk to your family, read a good book, take a walk. Be sure not to watch the morning shows too. You will eliminate your stress and be optimistic and cheerful. I guarantee it!!

Just look at the anger and hate expressed in these postings!! This campaign is too long.

Posted by: GREG | August 13, 2008 2:32 PM

************ especially Sean Hannity!!

Posted by: william | August 13, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

At 67, I am a huge Obama supporter. I would hope that we "older folks" would show the wisdom to realize the US cannot afford four more years of Bush/McCain.

Posted by: David Jimerson | August 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The reason many 'older folks' don't like Obama is because he represents change. At least thats what he talks about a lot and is his campaign slogan.
A lot of people over 60, and retirees, like to keep the status quo, as long as it doesn't affect them too much. They don't like change, lets face it. That's why many support McCain, because he doesn't represent change, and wants to keep things as they are. That's why they voted for Bush twice, and are called 'conservative. They want to keep things as they are
Take it from me, I know
A Seventy something kid--hoping for change

Posted by: Tetamalu | August 13, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Really, a quick read of your posts you can see you are about as demented as Mccain.

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Data point update: I am older than McCain, and I won't be voting for Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 2:56 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

the current seniors and baby boomers get where obama is going for his funds to give away to those who did not earn theirs...

Posted by: dwight | August 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people wake up and smell the death in IRAQ and the $$$$$ in BIG OIL. What you see is what you get! McCAIn is the same as Bush. You don't have to be elderly to vote for OBAMA just smart and not a racist. Like that redneck a few blogs above.

Posted by: Jim Feliccia | August 13, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

"We want peace for the rest of our lives and for future generations."

Then don't vote for McCain. You won't have peace for the next year if that warmongerer gets in.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Data point update: I am older than McCain, and I won't be voting for Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

the Mccain camp is furiously flinging turds against the wall (britney, paris, "the dollar-bill race card") to see if they stick. They haven't.

Obama is just patiently waiting. There won't be much left of Mccain by november.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Once again the headline distorts: "For Obama, Generational Politics"

Even the article notes: "But there is of course another way of looking at this year's striking generation gap: that John McCain has an age problem of his own, and arguably a much bigger one than Obama."

Yet we NEVER see an article headlined "For McCain, Generational Politics".

Never. It is Obama who is portrayed as appealing to a narrow sector, or to only 1 generation.

But read the article. It is McCain who appeals to a narrow sector.. those over 65. Obama's appeal is cross generational, to the young and the middle aged.

"If there is a cleavage in the generational landscape, the polls suggest, it is less between the youngest and the middle-aged than it is between over-65 voters and everybody else, and especially the now approaching retirement Baby Boomers."

The Washington Post can't give its own articles an honest headline. McCain is stuck in a narrow demographic... playing generational politics, while Obama builds a cross generational coalition, to say nothing of the multi-racial and multi-cultural coalition also described in the article.

Other recent reporting showed that Obama has the support of a majority of Christians from many different groups, except evengelicals. Again Obama appeals to many groups, McCain to one.

Posted by: Mike | August 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm a 60 year old Boomer. I was talking with a 59 year old friend last week. She said "Remember when we were young in college? We were liberals, way left. Now we're so much more conservative we would appall our former selves." We've lived through the Cold War, VietNam, the end of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union. We have homes, businesses, children, grandchildren. We want peace for the rest of our lives and for future generations. We have a sense of our physical and financial mortality. We want a leader with experience and strength of character.

Posted by: Bill | August 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I turn 73 in less than a week, and I've been for Obama since before he even announced his candidacy. I've read both of Obama's books cover-to-cover. Just another data point.

Posted by: oldhonky | August 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Why would any senior citizen vote for Baracky Hussein Obama, when Obama supporters constantly make fun of John McCain's age?

Senior citizen's already know that Baracky Hussein Obama has an extremely liberal voting record.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: mike | August 13, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Why would any senior citizen vote for Baracky Hussein Obama, when Obama supporters constantly make fun of John McCain's age?

Senior citizen's already know that Baracky Hussein Obama has an extremely liberal voting record.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: mike | August 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama, You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Now we have Barack being on equal ground to Moses. How insulting.

According to Reichert it's a black thing and only a black thing.

Posted by: Juan | August 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Senator Obama's deficit among the so-called "Greatest Generation" is an indication that this generation's greatness is in it's own self interest.

Posted by: michael_ds | August 13, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Attacks on McCain and Nader because of their age by Obama supporters drive away elder support. If Obama thinks another debate about Social Security as the "locked box" in the Gore tradition will attract seniors, he is wrong. James Carville's wife is not helping
Obama by publishing a book which attacks him, but the Carville family always like to cover both sides of their corporate clients.

Posted by: steve conn | August 13, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

JR, Boston:

Notwithstanding Obama breaking his promise to "aggressively pursue an agreement on public financing" -- therefore obtaining the 3:1 money advantage you gloat over -- he will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Muslim Racist Hussein NoBama hucks a LUGGI at the White race

"My grandmother is a typical White person" Racist Barry Obama 03/21/2008.

Barry Obama spits in the face of the white race yet some low-lifes on here still support this racist pig.

You idiots that support this white hating racist have no shame.

You're the lowest of the lowest to have someone spit in your face and say "He's got my Vote"

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

all i can say, as my son would... is L.O.L. the AARP is amoung the strongest groups organizations out there, what age bracket do they get? oh yea, the one that has the most reliable and the highest voter turn out in history.

the youth of the U.S. are committed to the idea of 'change' but they haven't asked what it will be changed to. its said it will be changed for the better. the betterment of who? the people? which people? the poor? the rich? the hungry? the stuffed? who will gain from this. 'all of us.' ok, who is us? us didn't mean me when Bush won both times. and it didn't mean me when Clinton won, both times, or Bush senior when he won both times.

until the youth of the U.S. actually looks at the words and determines the meaning, all we have is hope... hope that this election doesn't turn America on it ear and makes us fall for good.

Posted by: spy_glass343 | August 13, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

And if he does get in (which I don't believe he will) just watch the deficit then . . . with his energy policy that the Wall Street Journal analysts say will explode the deficit even if he does steal the oil companies' profits not to mention this vote pandering policy (if it is indeed a serious policy) of not taxing senior citizens. This guy is like a kid in a candy shop. He is soooo dangerous on soooo many fronts.

Posted by: Fightertom34 | August 13, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Americans are stirred by a truly American story: Barack Obama was born to an average middle-class white family and went through high school, college, and law school on academic scholarships, loans, and a whole lot of grit and determination to succeed. He never benefitted from family connections or a wealthy marriage. He chose to pursue public service rather than making a pile of money in a fancy law firm. He married the love of his life and created a solid family founded on trust and mutual respect. Inclusion, hard work, service, pride in country and family, these are the hallmarks of Obama's supremely American life story.

Obama's core values reflect those of my family and of every American family I know.

In stark contrast, John McCain's values reflect those of family privilege and unearned wealth. His current negative campaign displays the qualities he values which include anger, envy, shallowness, greed, and exclusion. This is decidedly not the kind of leader we need for this new century

Posted by: deedee | August 13, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Hussein Nobama Political Expierence comes to light.

Hollywood Actor Geroge Clooney = Obama #1 political advisor....LOL LOL

Obama nailed again - Acquiring the services of none other then Hollywood actor George Clooney - male version of Babs on foeign and domestic affairs.

It is now known they meet daily and discuss national security issues as well as domestic.

McCain - You can have a field day with this - take the ball and run with it and show what a jackass this idiot is

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

We Now Know Barry Hussein Obama is a Baby Killer!

This racist dirtbag opposed a bill to protect the life of an infant who survived a late-term abortion.

Hussein Obama while Illinois state senator, opposed a state version of the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which passed the U.S. Senate in 2002 by a unanimous vote. The law prevents the killing of Babies.

Anyone supporting this dirtbag is an animal.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Chevy | August 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Instead of the Post publishing any negative news about McCain, it again chooses to print what has become the daily "Obama's in trouble" article. Meanwhile on other, less mainstream sites this tidbit of information about "all tough talk and no real action" John McCain:

Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili on Wednesday called for John McCain and other American leaders to do more for Georgia in their response to the conflict in his country.

“Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, ‘We are all Georgians now,’” Saakashvili said on CNN’s American Morning. “Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it’s time to pass from this. From words to deeds.”

McCain told a crowd in Pennsylvania yesterday that he had called Saakashvili to express solidarity with the people of Georgia, saying: “Today, we are all Georgians.”

McCain’s foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann told reporters on the campaign plane Tuesday that McCain’s remark “obviously meant a lot to Saakashvili personally, but more importantly the message it conveyed to the Georgian people in this really, time of unprecedented national emergency.” Scheunemann said McCain and Saakashvili are friends who have speaking daily throughout the crisis.


But Saakashvili said action is more important than rhetoric in the face of “brutal” and “deliberate” Russian violence. He urged the United States to take the lead in installing an international peacekeeping force.

“We should realize what is at stake here for Americans,” he said. “America is losing the whole region.”

“What Americans should do know, first of all, clearly make known their intentions,” he said.

Posted by: gwt301 | August 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Tired, Stress Out, Angry, Trouble Sleeping

Say Goodbye to FOX, C-SPAN, MSNBC, CNN opinionated news and all the talking heads. Say goodbye to Bill, Sean, Joe, Keith, Lou, Chris, Charles, and all the rest. .
These folks don’t care about you. They just want ratings at your expense.

Try something different starting tonight. Turn off these stations, listen to music, talk to your family, read a good book, take a walk. Be sure not to watch the morning shows too. You will eliminate your stress and be optimistic and cheerful. I guarantee it!!

Just look at the anger and hate expressed in these postings!! This campaign is too long.

Posted by: GREG | August 13, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Barack "the Messiah" Obama is a false prohet and will be exposed as the fraud that he is...

Posted by: UnitedWeStand | August 13, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the freaking messiah references already. It is so blasphemous! Should McCain be referenced as Methuselah, the oldest man in the Bible, Genesis, chapter 5, verse 27? Not so appealing is it? Kind of blasphemous isn't it?

You are using the term "messiah" to describe Senator Obama because you are envious of the grass-roots following he created over the last two years and John McCain has no following, at least that is report worthy. Come up with something else please, or watch out for the "Methuselah" reference for McCain, morons!

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 13, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the freaking messiah references already. It is so blasphemous! Should McCain be referenced as Methuselah, the oldest man in the Bible, Genesis, chapter 5, verse 27? Not so appealing is it? Kind of blasphemous isn't it?

You are using the term "messiah" to describe Senator Obama because you are envious of the grass-roots following he created over the last two years and John McCain has no following, at least that is report worthy. Come up with something else please, or watch out for the "Methuselah" reference for McCain, morons!

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 13, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

And don't forget that after the convention Obama is going to likely have a 3-1 financial advantage over McCain.

The get out the vote program might include limos to take people to the polls.

Seriously though: Obama's got Kerry's 252 electoral votes in the bag, and he's gonna have a big pile of money and volunteers to target: Colorade, Virginia, Ohio, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, No Cackalacky, and Georgia. If Obama's people see a black person they are going to register them. If they see someone under 30 they are going to register them.

If Obama wages war the way he's running his campaign, and I imagine that he will, we'll obliterate Al Qaeda by 2010.

Posted by: JR, Boston | August 13, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate Mr. MacGillis' tainted attempt to whitewash (no pun intended) Obama's continuing weak showing in the polls; however, the truth is that Obama is going to lose this election by a wide margin...possibly a landslide margin. He won't win Georgia, or Virgina.

As meteoric as his rise to fame was, his explosion and slow motion fall to earth will be just as dramatic.

Posted by: Larrywp | August 13, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

If the boomers are all for Obama, that's my signal to vote against him.

Posted by: chris6121 | August 13, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

It'd be great if Obama could carry a pile of Southern states. I know some older Americans (over 80) who can't get past his race, and I don't think you can do much about that. However none of these folks are interested in voting for McCain. WIth gas at $4/gallon I'd predict that a lot of potential McCain voters won't bother to turn out, while Obama's supporters will.

To all the racists out there - you all ought to be supporting Obama. The sort of "black leaders" you can't stand - Jackson for example - their race based arguments will lose a lot of power when "the man" is a black man.

Posted by: Marc Edward | August 13, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Gesundheit has it right. We get the government we deserve. I have a constant pain in the pit of my stomach over what my country has become.

Posted by: Linda42 | August 13, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Could that be because the only people who answer the phone when the pollsters call are people over 65?

Posted by: Becky | August 13, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the best politician I've ever seen. He was behind Hillary by 20pts on January 1st, make his move, and then overtook her for good by mid-Feb. He has a sense of perspective and timing that is Gretzky-like. He knows when to make his move, and he hasn't made it yet, and he's up by 6 in today's gallup poll, which doesn't account for historical turnout for young or black voters. He's probably really up by 10 now, and he hasn't made his move yet. The convention, the debates, a likely Powell endorsement....

Posted by: JR, Boston | August 13, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on,can the BS WAPO as the reason that phony empty suit lying looney toons
Messiah Barack Hussein Obama cannot close
the deal with voters,doesnot entirely rest
on the over 65 year old voters not buying
into Obama and his phoney baloney BS,since
more and more voters of all ages are seeing
thru what a total fool,fraud and incompetent loser that Barack Obama really
is and voters are also fed up with the
rabid little paid Obamafools calling anyone
who dares disagree or questions Obama a
racist and the voters are fed up with the
newsmedia overkill of 24/7 endless stupid
Barack Hussein Obama nonsense. So do I need
even mention how mad at the Do Nothing
Democrat Congress and Botox Beauty Queen
Goofy Nancy Pelosi the voters also are here
now then? Obama will not win in 2008 and
the Democrats will lose their majority in
Congress as well. The Democrats have only
theirselves to blame for losing again.
NOBAMA Now Or Ever!

Another Independent Voter Against OBAMA!

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | August 13, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Most of the polls are biased. Here's one from a Republican guy who ran for office in Ga.

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/story.aspx?sid=460

And, again, a poll is only as good as its turnout model- and I truly believe that blacks and young people are going to come out very strongly for Obama, and that McCain will only get lukewarm support from the hard core conservatives.

And here's a little qualitative analysis-
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1815194,00.html

It's gonna be close.

Posted by: JR, Boston | August 13, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Now, if you're talking North Carolina or Virginia, those are shaping up to be battleground States.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

In 2004, Bush carried Georgia 58% to 41% for Kerry.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

JR, Boston:

There's no way that Bob Barr is going to get 9% of any significant voting bloc, let alone 2% of the African-American vote in Georgia -- last polling I saw had McCain over Obama by 10 points -- that is a safe State.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

America's socio-political character is multifarious and unpredictable. While McCain is a victim of America's supremacist world view, Obama is a product of America's espousal of unlimited individual achievements. However, McCain seem to have nothing more to offer America and the modern world than takeouts from his provenance, old-fashioned super-powerism and a rabid protagonism for a belligerent style of leadership that has lost credibility and is glaringly out of sync with the intimate aspirations of the modern world. McCain's much-vaunted experience is regularly displayed in his ability to stir-up the deep-seated mixture of American jingoism and cryptic xenophobia to his political advantage. Fortunately, Obama lacks this cast of experience. He wants to show America and the rest of the world that real and enduring power can be achieved without riding roughshod over humanity. Unfortunately, his dovish doctrine and his exotic persona could be his nemesis. Given the pro-caste polity within which he is striving to excel, he might not get the chance to prove the veracity of his manifesto to America and the world despite his proven proficiency. To be sure, America has the right to chose whoever they want as their president but they must also be braced for the comeuppances of their choice. This time they should not feign surprise like with their GWB's two term choice because nobody will believe their sob stories. People get the leaders they deserve.

Posted by: Gesundheit | August 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

If you run the Georgia numbers with a model for turnout at 65/28/7 for white/black/latino and with Obama winning 25/95/65, McCain doing 66/3/26 and Barr doing 9/2/9 among those voting blocks then you get to this result: Obama 47.5, McCain 45.5, and Barr 7.

And blacks could very well be 29% of the electorate. And, thanks to younger voters, Obama may get more than 25% of the white vote.

Georgia will be won or lost by 2%, and it could go either way depending on turnout. And you had better believe that blacks and young voters will make it to the polls in Georgia (and Florida) in an enthusiastic and big way.

Posted by: JR, Boston | August 13, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

matt:

Said "older voters" should recall the age of his mother (his father was killed in WWII) and the fact that he's already been running for President non-stop for two years.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

You'd be surprised how many older voters see McCain's age as a detriment, mainly because they couldn't see themselves running the country in McCain's condition.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I won't mind seeing the Death of 1968, too. Curious, though, how many pro-choices want to "move on" only if Roe v. Wade stays the law of the land. Why can't the Death of 1968 include the resurrection of the culture of life?

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Read Obama and the Death of 1968...

http://nahnopenotquite.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/the-death-of-1968-2/

This trend is an admission that it is time to move past the culture wars of the 60s.

Posted by: Nah Nope | August 13, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Alec:

Are you suggesting that Georgia is a battleground State this year? LOL!

Mr. Reichert

I was fortunate enough to vote for John Fitzgerald Kennedy, but I won't be voting for Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | August 13, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans' policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies.

Republican deregulation brought about fraud in mortgage lending and dangerous financial instruments which have collapsed the housing market, leaving a million or more homeowners facing foreclosure. The financial system is in disarray and might collapse from insolvency.

The trade and budget deficits have exploded. The US trade deficit is larger than the combined trade deficits of every deficit country in the world.

The US can no longer finance its wars or its own government and relies on foreign loans to function day to day. To pay for its consumption, the US sells its existing assets--companies, real estate, toll roads, whatever it can offer--to foreigners.

Republicans have run roughshod over the US Constitution, Congress, the courts and civil liberties. Republicans have made it perfectly clear that they believe that our civil liberties make us unsafe--precisely the opposite view of our Founding Fathers. Yet, Republicans regard themselves as the Patriotic Party.

The Republicans have violated the Nuremberg prohibitions against war crimes, and they have violated the Geneva Conventions against torture and abuse of prisoners. Republican disregard for human rights ranks with that of history's great tyrants.

The Republicans have put in place the foundation for a police state, which they have no problem using against fellow citizens!

We must get the Republicans totally out of power, or we will have no country left for any of us!


Posted by: Franky | August 13, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

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