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Obama's Shift on Drilling

By Jonathan Weisman
TITUSVILLE, Fla. -- Sen. Barack Obama sought yesterday to portray a shift in his stand on off-shore oil drilling as a show of his pragmatic, centrist governing style, saying he recognized drilling as the price Republicans would extract for his broader goals of energy independence.
But Republicans claimed it was a politically motivated stand by the presumptive Democratic nominee, even though McCain made a similar switch earlier this year.

On Friday, Obama embraced an effort by five Democratic senators and five Republicans to break Congress's energy impasse with legislation that expands off-shore oil exploration and embrace ambitious energy efficiency and alternative fuels development efforts. Republicans have seized on the drilling issue, hoping to finally get political traction amid soaring gasoline prices. Democratic leaders have done everything possible to stand in their way.

Obama said yesterday it is time to compromise. The proposal by the so-called Gang of 10 senators has "some of the very aggressive elements that I've outlined in my plan," he told reporters here, including a goal in 20 years of having 85 percent of cars no longer operating on petroleum-based fuels and to provide $7 billion to help the U.S. auto industry retool to build ultra-efficient vehicles.

"What I don't want is for the best to be the enemy of the good here, and if we can come up with a genuine, bipartisan compromise in which I have to accept some things I don't like, or the Democrats have to accept some things that they don't like, in exchange for moving us in the direction of energy independence, than that's something I'm open to," Obama said. "I wanted to send a strong signal that we can't allow partisan bickering or the desire to score political points to get in the way of providing some genuine relief to people who are struggling."

Since securing the Democratic nomination in June, Obama has taken a series of steps toward the political center, embracing a bipartisan compromise on warrantless wiretapping, accepting a Supreme Court decision against a District handgun ban, decrying another decision banning the death penalty for child rapists and hinting at limits to mental-health reasons for late-term abortions.

For Obama, the drilling issue may offer the strongest reason yet for compromise. New polls, even in Florida and California, where opposition to offshore exploration has been strongest, suggest U.S. public opinion is shifting under the weight of $4-a-gallon gasoline. Obama left open his options yesterday, saying the Senate compromise's "drilling provisions are about as careful and responsible as you might expect from a drilling agenda" but that he remains skeptical.

"We can't drill our way out of the problem," he said. But "I also recognize that in the House and the Senate, there are Republicans who have very clear ideas about what they want, and at some point people are going to have to make some decisions. Do we want to keep on arguing, or are we going to get some things done?"

The campaign of John McCain claimed credit for leading Obama to his new position.
But it is not clear how far Obama's endorsement will get the Senate compromise. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) shut down the chamber and sent the House home for a five-week August recess Friday rather than have a vote on expanded drilling. She framed her position as an effort to save the planet. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has been only slightly less ardent.

The Senate package would repeal tax breaks for oil companies that Democrats have been fighting for two years, would fund more research into fuel efficiency, and would extend tax breaks for renewable electricity sources. The states would have the final say in approving drilling plans on the Outer Continental shelf, no closer than 50 miles from the shore.

By Washington Post Editors  |  August 2, 2008; 12:44 PM ET
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McCain might have divorced his first wife. And it is not anyone to pass judgement on him or his ex-wife,but GOD. Men and women divorced every day. And are good upright citizens. But if you want to know about crime, then investigate Obama, who deals with criminals and terroists. And has connections with them. It took Obama 20 years to know his preacher, does not want his patriotism questioned,has double duel citizenship that he still retains, etc., etc. Why does Obama not put his hand over his heart when the American national anthem is played or the pledge of allegiance said? Why? Because he owes also allegiance to Kenya where his father is from in SE Africa. Let him tell you different if he can without lying. He is as phony as a $3.00 bill period.

Posted by: Luis Contreras | August 16, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Will we vote an unexprience, green, does not want his patriotism question, took 20 years to know his preacher, has plenty of money, double duel citizenship, claims to be black instead of biracial , etc., etc. Sounds like George W. Bush. But it's Borack H. Obama. Wants change.Bush wanted results. Change and results are the same thing. But what kind of change and results. That is the question. Both were and are green and unexperienced with plenty of money.That makes it even harder. It's easier said than done. Get real. Wake up America.

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Posted by: ламинат | August 11, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a demon. He is a monster. He's willing to say anything to get elected. Was this predicted by his former national security advisor?

Posted by: Samson | August 5, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

It seems like Obama is a copycat, stealing parts of other people's ideas and presenting them as his own. I wouldn't say that Obama is dishonest, but his character is in question. It's sad that he's becoming the usual politician. I thought and hoped that Obama would be different. Many people was enchanted by his words, which I have now learned he doesn't value enough to keep.

Posted by: Mary | August 5, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

Let's see... first there was "Rising Star Obama"... then "Super Star Obama"... followed by "Barack the Obamessiah"... and now... only after cringing over McCain's growing support on the issue of drilling here & now... Obama, as God is my witness, is attempting his most incredible transformation yet... to that of - "Oba-McBama".

Obama is trying to "sandwich" key McCain strengths into his own campaign message. He knows that he can't sway all of McCain's supporters, but he is cleverly reaching out... testing the waters... baiting and waiting for the polls... while never taking a clear and concise stance on anything.

Posted by: McLarry | August 5, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

This news is old now :) He flip flopped again on drilling. This man is unbelivable!
He turned himself into a bundle of lies and that makes the master flip flopper Kerry looks descent.

Posted by: dave | August 4, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm always right. BTW: how "old and confused" are you?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Whoops! JakeD, you're right. George Walker Bush was in his first term then, and he was the one who lied to start a war. I get him and McCain, who is very old, confused sometimes.

Posted by: sacomment | August 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Whoops! JakeD, you're right. George Walker Bush was in his first term then, and he was the one who lied to start a war. I get him and McCain, who is very years old, confused sometimes.

Posted by: sacomment | August 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

sacomment:

This thread is about Obama flip-flopping on off-shore drilling, but I am curious what you think John Sidney McCain III "lied and cajoled" about to drag us into war. You do realize that he was NOT President back then, right?

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Finally, a PLAN to get toward solving our energy problem, not an unplanned rush to drill. McCain (very old) lied and cajoled to drag us into war, and he's doing the same to help out Cheney's oil buddies. I'd rather have a well reasoned solution at the start so we don't have to whip up an energy-plan SURGE 7 years from now.

Posted by: sacomment | August 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop . . . he will say anything to anyone in order to get elected.

Posted by: JakeD | August 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

HA, HA, HA!!! So all you Obama lovers out there, here is ANOTHER FLIP FLOP from your "God". HE SURE IS THE CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. I WONDER HOW HE WILL CHANGE NEXT? How does it feel coming down to earth with the rest of us "typical white women". Just give it a little more time and The One will flop again!!!!!

FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse


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As soon as McCain wanted to drill, Obama called him a flip-flopper, the media did too. where are all the drive-by media now?making excuses for their boy Obama, really funny. It's ok for him to flop. I'm tired of the media trying to elect OUR president all on their own!!!

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Posted by: Reese | August 4, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Obama will NOT shift on drilling, The environmentalists, who OWN the democratic party will NOT let him. He will put so many conditions on it, that it will really be a joke! He is just trying to have it BOTH ways, JUST TO BE ELECTED!! "BOTH WAYS OBAMA" that's HIM!!

Posted by: Reese | August 4, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

As soon as McCain wanted to drill, Obama called him a flip-flopper, the media did too. „here are all the drive-by media now?making excuses for their boy Obama, really funny. It's ok for him to flop. I'm tired of the media trying to elect OUR president all on their own!!!

Posted by: Reese | August 4, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Don wrote:

It's amazing how the press keeps on trying to claim Obama is shifting when the truth of the matter is that he has accepted that one has to make tradeoffs in order to accomplish something in a bipartisan way.

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That would be a valid point, if only Obama had advocated an openness to offshore drilling before the polls began to swing against him on the issue. If he had come out a month or two ago and said, "we need a bipartisan solution, one that encompasses all proposed solutions, from domestic drilling on down the line" then yes I would agree with you. But that was not the case. Obama was a strident critic of off-shore drilling until his position fell out of favor with the public. Now he is "open" to it.

Once again, Obama is altering his positions when they become politically unpopular. That is certainly "change"; although I don't know if its the kind I can "believe in".

Posted by: Joseph Baker | August 3, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: WQ | August 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how the press keeps on trying to claim Obama is shifting when the truth of the matter is that he has accepted that one has to make tradeoffs in order to accomplish something in a bipartisan way. I'm also against expanding drilling, but if I see a bill that aims to make 85% of the cars no longer dependent upon petrolium, then I'd be willing let some things like expanded but restricted offshore drilling get by. That's how politics works, folks. Yet the press will keep calling him flip-flop and left-wing (while not realizing that these two labels are contradictory) until the cows come home.

Posted by: Don | August 3, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama shifted!! He needs votes and will do and say anything to get elected. Particularly laughable is his plan to fund his energy "plan" using windfall profits of oil companies. A few months ago he accused Clinton of "pandering" to voters with this approach to funding the gas tax holiday, and "the one" argued repeatedly that taxing the oil company's windfall profits would simply cause them to raise gas prices. His position at that time was supported by hundreds of well respected unnamed kool-aid drinking economists.

Obama definitely reminds us all of Mr. Greenleaf from the movie "Swing Vote."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

We atleast know what is in hold for us in future with McCain. We do not know anything about Obama and its unknown. Knowing what we know not about obama.. his wife's anti-american sentiments, 20 years racist pastor wright, Rezko, Auchi and other radical elements.. future that you are talking about seems bleak.

With Bush and McCain, we are safe and secure in America. We cannot take chances with this inexperienced and radical guy

Posted by: Andy | August 3, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Compromise is not a 4 letter word. Continuing to run straight ahead, full force into a brick wall when all evidence suggests that you make a course correction - is the very definition of insanity - and the very definition of the last eight years under G.W. Obama is truly a breath of fresh air on the political scene. McCain represents the past, and Obama the future of American politics.

Posted by: Steve98 | August 3, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It's great to see that a politician can be pragmatic and actually compromise to get things done. We need a president like Obama in the White House to reach across the aisle and make bipartisanship a staple in Washington, unlike the fossil it has become under Dubya's 8 yrs.

Posted by: Josh | August 3, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a practical man. He is not an idealogue that many misperceive him to be.He is willing to make adjustments, compromise and be reasonable to do what is best for America as a unit rather than sticking to some story book idea of the way things are in a Disney movie like Bush and McCain. This allows him to get things done rather than the Republican method of doing it by the storybook and make reality fit the tale.

Posted by: majorteddy | August 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

So McCain wants to make ad hominem attacks and take the campaign into the gutter. OK.

Obama's people should drill McCain on the fact that the Arizona Senator married into the mob.

http://www.girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-mccain-and-mob.html

Drill that, you scum.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"He has a great solution for Energy Crisis!
"Inflate your tires""

Yeah, that was focking brilliant!

;)

Naive, far-left Dems think we can spin on a dime and suddenly swith to a clean energy paradigm. The truth is - of COURSE - that we'll be dependent on fossil fuels for a LOOONG time.

And those same Dem dimwits we'll be installing (think more Pelosis and more Reids, shudder) think that painfully high fossil fuel prices are a GOOD THING for us all, until they have to foot the bill to keep their shirttail kin from freezing in the upcoming Northeast winter.

Bush IS a putz, but his rescinding of the fed offshore drilling ban shook the speculators bidding up oil. A similar move by Congress would do the same and, oh by the way, would actually increase our supply.

Look at the natural gas being developed under Ft. Worth to see what can be done.

And, to wake up our new Dem masters, may they remember that if we are ever to be free of the despots we prop up around the world we MUST have more domestic energy supplies NOW.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"Hillary should become an Independent."

Yeah, that's a great idea.

"Obama treated her so badly ..."

But he learned that shiv-in-the-back style FROM the Clintons. Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery, so

"and he's being a hypocrite every time he praises her"

is not true: he only learned well from the modern masters.

Remember, when Hillary was asked if Obama was a Moslem she replied, "No ... NOT AS FAR AS I KNOW."

Ah, BubbaJeff and Hildebeast - good riddance to cheap white trash.

;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | August 3, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

He has a great solution for Energy Crisis!
"Inflate your tires" :)
Wow! American's never thought about this! What a genious to enlighten the world on this "supreme" solution!

Latenight comedians are having a field day! :) I can't stop laughing

Posted by: Martha | August 3, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Obama will whump the fools in Congress, starting with bonehead Democrats. Pelosi and Reid are huge failures as leaders and need to be replaced.

Posted by: Nick | August 3, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

For a skinny guy, Obama sure has a big mouth. Obama and Vanity are best friends. Hillary is in a difficult position. She really doesn't want to support Obama. But she is being forced to by people in our party because they say that her political future depends on her being a good sport. Hillary should become an Independent. Obama treated her so badly and he's being a hypocrite every time he praises her. Those words of praise are cheap

Why isn't Obama polling better? There is a problem with this picture. Maybe the majority of Americans aren't sold on Obama. And I don't like the way Obama responded recently to criticisms from black Americans.

Posted by: Alex | August 3, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

"DRILLING FOR VOTES" (A One-Act Play about Behind The Scenes Machinations):

Written by Those Who Know
___________________________

Players:

Axelrod: A venal and impoverished thinker, a "hired gun" for the Liberal agenda.

Obama: A weak, foolish Harvard grad., who's overweening ambition has made him the perfect mouthpiece for Marxism a la James "The Lunatic" Cone, Jerry "The Mouth" Wright, George "Da Bling" Soros, and frothing liberals of unbalanced mind, who have refused to medicate themselves against jingoism, cant and various irrational ideas, such as "Obama for President".

Michelle Obama: Obama's wife. Another Ivy League whiner who has never "really" been proud of America, or her husband, whom she describes as "pathetic".

James "The Lunatic" Cone: A rabid, anti-Democracy, America-hating racist who insists that blacks are "The Aryan Race" but have been historically oppressed by "The Aryan Race".

Jerry "The Mouth" Wright: A "preacher" who thinks AIDS is a "tool" of "The Aryan Race".

George "Da Bling" Soros: Mindless "rich guy" who sees himself as "intellectual" and poses as a "philosopher".
___________________________________

SCENE: The living room of Obama's house. The shutters are down and the drapes drawn. The players sit about in various stages of depression. Overflowing ashtrays and empty, knocked over "Chivas Regal" bottles attest to the fact that serious imbibing and smoking has been going on. A pall of gloom hangs about the room.

Obama: (glumly, puffing angrily on a cigarette and thirstily sipping his scotch) So what are you suggesting Axelrod? ANOTHER FLIPFLOP?

Axelrod: SHUT UP, you fool. Don't ask questions. I got you where you are remember? now just do what I tell you. You need votes. Offshore drilling is the way to get them.

Obama: (mildly, and with a wary timidity) But...but...I just said that I don't believe in Offshore Drilling...are...are...you...sure...? (looks at Michelle for support. Michelle studiously avoids his gaze.)

George Soros: (chants mindlessly) I have the money. I am the King. I hate Republicans. I have the money. I am the King. I hate...

Michelle: Shut up, George! Stop chanting. I can't think with you mumbling like that. Barry, dahling, don't be a fool, listen to Axelrod, he's the BRAINS behind this operation (laughs scornfully). Really, Barry, you're so pathetic! (hands Axelrod a refill of his drink with a leering smile).

Cone: (with moving fervor) Barry. You have to do it. You're a black man. It's natural for you to desperately pander for votes. You're so oppressed. What else can you do right now? Once you're in office, all this will change. Remember Chaka Zulu? HA! These whites will learn a few lessons when we come to black power. We'll show them who's boss. You have to do this for God, The Black Man Up There. You have to do this for your country, Russia, as well as Iran, Africa, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Germany. Barry, you have to do this for Farrakhan, Ayers and Rezko. Remember your friends Barry. Think of us. Do it for us! (mops the sweat of his forehead and the tears from his eyes with a fine linen handkerchief on which Hillary and Bill Clinton's faces are printed)

Wright: GOD D-MN AMERICA!

Obama: (cheering up) Yeah! Okay, Axelrod, George, you've got a deal. I'll do it! I'll push offshore drilling, or offshore voting in Berlin, or offshore money laundering (winks at George), or offshore job creation or offshore terrorism. Uh...Michelle honey, can I go listen to Ludacris on my Ipod now, or do you need me to wash up?

George Soros: (still chanting mindlessly) I have the money. I am the King. I hate Republicans. I have the money. I am the King. I hate...

Michelle: (briskly) Off you go, Barry. Axelrod, shall we continue the discussion somewhere private? I'd like to change into something more comfortable (giggles archly).

Wright: GOD D-MN AMERICA! (chortles madly)

Axelrod: Sure. Barry, make sure you get enough sleep. (Aside) Damn that rap music!

(Curtain falls as Barry leaps to his feet and rushes off, spilling his drink. Cone smiles in a sinister and meaningful manner at Wright. Wright grins obsequiously at Cone. George mumbles his mantra; it is clear that he is dropping off. Axelrod and Michelle exit left, arms linked singing "Hail The Conquering Hero." Their voices fade slowly and silence falls. The lights dim.)

FINIS

Posted by: JulianDamanas | August 3, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

How many flip-flops does Obama have in his closet anyway? He only offers band-aids, but no cures.

Posted by: Julie in Georgia | August 3, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

"Most of the oil" is in the Mideast; Over 60 percent of known reserves. A single well in Saudi Arabia, Ghawar, is larger than everything in the North Sea combined. So comparisons of reserves outside that unbelievably rich field need to be seen for what they are...Marginal.

It is true that we can not "drill our way out of the problem". But we might be able to buy some time to bring other energy sources up to speed before this problem becomes a real crisis. And we need to start moving on every reasonable front to achieve that. Because lead times are long and the consequences of a massive energy shortage would be dire.

As for Alaska versus offshore there is no real comparison. The Gulf of Mexico alone already produces more than Alaska ever will. BP recently commissioned the Mardis Gras pipeline system there. It could carry the entire daily output of Alaska. And pipelines are much safer that tankers. So the ecological risk is smaller from offshore drilling.

Posted by: jspoteet | August 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank you. Great job done Friday on the drilling issue. The Republicans need to unite. Hope Republicans go to their constituents and do not compromise on this issue.

We need a "Manhattan Project" an energy policy for our National Energy Security. Just think back in those Carter days if he hadn't stopped our building of Nuclear power plants. Think about Bush Sr. stopping us from offshore drilling. President Clinton vetoing the drilling in Alaska. If any one of those times that action wasn't taken, we wouldn't be back in the Carter days of lines and beholding to foreign nations for our energy.

Windpower and solar are good but need to be subsidized and or have tax credits in order to succeed. Even so, the energy produced by natural means would be only a small percentage of our needs since those sources can't be stored and they need back up if the natural sources aren't there to produce.

It's like our congress is no different than Opec. We have the resources yet we can't develop nuclear, can't drill off shore, can't explore and develop our coal and natural gas and can't build dams. We have the technology. Just think we're going over to India to build Nuclear power plants for them.

Republicans need to get informed, many energy giants around that can inform them and then they need to act and go to their constituents.

IF DEMOCRATS DON'T RETURN NOW TO LIFT THE BAN ON DRILLING, WE WILL BAN ELECTING ANY DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBR PERIOD

Posted by: maggieb | August 2, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

This Barack Obama statement on offshore drilling is reminds of Al Gore during the 2000 campaign.

Back then, George W. Bush had introduced the idea that individuals should be allowed to invest on their own a percentage of the Social Security tax that they paid. We have seen how far Bush got with that idea but at the time he seemed to be getting some support from voters on it.

As a response Gore came up with a federally funded IRA scheme. It appeared that he had not given much thought to his plan but had only introduced it to try and slow Bush's momentum on the issue.

Obama's drilling plan like most Obama plans is vague and only seems politically motivated to try and mitigate the damage that is being done to Democrats on the drilling issue. If some people really believe that opening more areas to drilling is a good thing then it is unlikely that this watered down plan that Obama throws out is going to get their votes.

So Obama just looks like he is pandering and he is not gaining any votes from this plan in the process. It would have been better if he had just said nothing on the issue.

Posted by: danielhancock | August 2, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I have questions for Borack H. Obama. Why won't you admit that you are 50% persent white because of your white mother?Is it that you want the sympathy and piety of whites? You already have 95% of the black vote. You always claim to be black.Do you still claim duel citizenship? One is for the USA and one for Kenya in SE Africa where your father is from?Are you not related to Odinga who lost the election in Kenya? And did you not try to engaged in politics by calling kenya while running for president of the USA? Why don't you want your patriotism question? McClaim put his life on the line for America.Have you done likewise? Or did you dodged military serviced? And why do you mention race on the campaign? We are voting for persons, not race.And why don't you put your hand over your heart when the american national anthem is played or the pledge of alligeice is said? Don't you have any feelings for them? The president shall have power over the military,our nueclear bombs, where they are, how many, etc. McCain won't tell. Will you? After all you also owe alligence and loyalty to Kenya?

Posted by: Luis Contreras | August 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

The "One to change the world" certainly can..with changing his mind at a "moments" notice and all for a vote.


VOTE NO Obama in November

Posted by: DEM now IND | August 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama, where is your audacity to be a different and new kind of politician?

Posted by: Don | August 2, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Ladies, Gentlemen-FOLKS!

Stop senselessly attack Barry O'Bomba-Nation about his Flip-Flopping on issues!

IF, the Empty Suit gets elected, you will need your energy to REALLY start Screaming when he REALLY starts doing it THEN! :-(

Posted by: SAINT-The | August 2, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

To permit offshore drilling is just one way to ' keep hope alive' to get some relief on the current oil shortage crisis. There has been a lot of talk by politicians to replace oil by alternative energy source such as wind, solar and biofuel. but the chances are it can be done for just a few percent of the total power generation by conventional source. Is nuclear power, which is practical but costly and problematic , the next to be looked into ?

Posted by: austin b | August 2, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama Flip Flop?
No Surprise at all! This is just another one in the huge list of "Shifts" :) he made in past few weeks :)

Shifted (flip flopped) on NAFTA
Shifted (flip flopped) on Healthcare
Shifted (flip flopped) on 20 years pastor Wright
Shifted (flip flopped) on Iraq
Shifted (flop flopped) on Wire tapping
Shifted (flip flopped) on Rezko
Shifted (flip flopped) on Gun ownership
Shifted (flip flopped) on Public Financing
Shifted (flip flopped) on William Ayers
Shifted (flip flopped) on Troop visit
Shifted (flip flopped) on Higher taxes
New Shifted (flip flopped) on Oil Drilling
.. and counting more :)

Posted by: Martha | August 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Kiss off, I don't believe a word any politician said!

Posted by: jackmack74 | August 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Slimeball NObama opted out of debates after he was for it?

Slimeball changed stance on offshore drilling, after being against it?

Slimeball NObama is for FISA after being against it?

Slimeball NObama is for staying in Iraq forever, after advocating pullout in strict 16 months?

SLimeball NObama used race card on Clinton?

Slimeball NObama used sex card on CLinton?

Slimeball NObama compared Pres Clinton to Nixon, but is now cringing because the right wingers are attacking him?

YES to all of these.
But that is slimeball NOBama for ya'll.
Clinton fans, don't fall for the "you need to toe the party line" angle. This is not a commie party.
The sleazy NObama campaign stole the nomination. Now his true colors are coming out.

Wright, Ayers, bittergate, those were small fried. The truly scary thing about this guy is that he is a Hypocrite par none, and will do anything, flip anything, race/sex card anything, to get his trone and crown.

Ruthless egomaniac, in other words.

Stay home or vote Nader, write Clinton name, or Ron Paul name, or your own name.
ANything but NObama.

Posted by: intcamd1 | August 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"we should just take everything he says with a grain of salt."

I take it with one of those salt-lick blocks they set out for deer in winter.

Posted by: Chuckamok | August 2, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Sen Obama has changed positions on offshore drilling from one that was based on environmental concerns to one that is based on the realities of energy needs. He has also said that the drilling will be part of an energy package and he will use it as a negotiating tool with the opposition. In the process of changing Obama did not abandon any core belief, he saw that it was a matter of priorities and in order to get along with Republicans he was going to have to yield on this one to get concessions on something like gas efficiency standards. Obama's integrity is intact, only his priorities have changed.

In McCain's case on affirmative action, McCain previously held a position which is contrary to his basic belief that discrimination is wrong. McCain held a position he did not agree with and that is called lack of integrity.

Posted by: DD | August 2, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

There is something wrong when John McCain changes his position on affirmative action from being for it to being against it. He statement was that he does not believe in discrimination. That is a principled position. I have no problem with that.

However before when he was for affirmative action, it means that he favored discrimination, if I judge him by the principles he says he holds. My conclusion is that in fact McCain lacks any core beliefs and lacks integrity.

Posted by: DD | August 2, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The purpose of political discourse is to persuade the other side to see things your way, I thought. Obama, a reasonable man, found it stands to reason that limited drilling offshore is, at this point, in the national interest (a conclusion I disagree with for what it is worth.) To the extent you have won, the honorable thing to do is congratulate your opponent and move on. Instead, in victory what I see is crowing and mindless ridiculing. A class act, as always, these wingnuts.

Posted by: hollywoodog | August 2, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"Obama shifts his stand on offshore drilling when the public opinion polls weigh really heavily for it."

Problem there is that Obama hasn't shifted his stand on offshore drilling. He remains skeptical of the benefits (and there's nothing wrong with that):

"'This wasn't really a new position. What I'm saying is that we can't drill our way out of the problem,' Obama told reporters. 'And if we can come up with a genuine bi-partisan compromise in which I have to accept some things I don't like, or the Democrats have to accept some things that they don't like, in exchange for actually moving us in the direction of energy independence, then that is something I am open to.'"

He's simply willing to accept it as part of a plan that gets America on the right track toward energy independence. When he saw that Congress wasn't going to get anywhere, he decided the Gang of Ten Bipartisan Energy Plan was better than nothing at all.

That's what politics is all about. You can harbor your own personal feelings but in this case it shouldn't get in the way of a greater cause.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 2, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise Obama changes his position yet again. This story is getting old we should just take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Posted by: mountain man | August 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama has not shifted his stand based on pragmatism. The case for more drilling has been obvious for years now and particularly acutely obvious in the past year. He has only shifted his stand this week because of polls that came out about the popularity of the idea of more drilling among Americans last week. McCain shifted his stand on more offshore drilling and oil exploration and production a while back, when it was pragmatism to do so. Obama shifts his stand on offshore drilling when the public opinion polls weigh really heavily for it.

Obama's timeline doesn't correspond with either pragmatism or bipartisanship or timing nailed to developments in the underlying issue. Obama's shifts correspond in time with the same kind of "poll driven politics" he has claimed to be a new and different break from. Again, he has shown he's not different in ways that he has marketed himself to be a "change from old politics" -- in this case, "old politics" being the "poll driven politics" he has denounced this year.

(from the article: "For Obama, the drilling issue may offer the strongest reason yet for compromise. New polls, even in Florida and California, where opposition to offshore exploration has been strongest, suggest U.S. public opinion is shifting under the weight of $4-a-gallon gasoline.")

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 2, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

From the rightwing blog site HotAir.com:

"This compromise could save the Democrats from their own leadership, and it represents a major rebellion against the hard-line demagoguery provided by Reid and Pelosi. This expansion represents a good start to restoring some common sense to American energy policy and marginalizing the radical environmentalists who have taken it hostage for a generation."

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/01/gang-of-10-compromise-on-energy/?print=1

I couldn't agree more. Barack Obama may have saved the Democrats from getting their asses handed to them this November.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"What is it that is actually wrong about a candidate changing their minds?"

There's nothing wrong with it. What would be wrong is the opposite and that's Barack Obama refusing to break with Queen Nancy and not allow any kind of compromise that involves offshore drilling no matter the terms and limitations.

Most of the comments you see here are trolls. They would've attacked him regardless of his choice. They don't even seem to be McCain supporters, just lifeless individuals who spout nonsense.

The Gang of Ten Bipartisan Energy Plan includes offshore drilling (with each individual state deciding whether or not they want drilling on their land), funds for alternative fuels research, raising fuel standards and a repeal of the oil company tax breaks.

What Obama opposed was a monolithic idea to lift the federal ban on offshore drilling that included nothing else. The Gang of Ten energy plan is what made the difference and he supports it even though he remains skeptical of the benefits of offshore drilling.

After the Gang of Ten plan was revealed, Harry Reid issued a statement basically blowing the idea off. He intended to pay it no mind. Now with Obama's support he and Pelosi will be forced to take it very seriously.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Of course, politics is at play in a political atmosphere called governance. Barack is as practical as he is smart. His is the politics of trying to find common ground on which to move issues out of a highly-charged partisan atmosphere. His approach on these issues should be applauded rather than used by the highly partisan right to keep attacking without really putting forward rational alternatives. Off-shore drilling is another issue that Republicans will use to press their point when most everyone knows that the results of this process can take up to 10 years to realize. In the mean time, where have the Republicans been on these issues when gas prices have been rising steadily since beginning the war of choice in Iraq?

This is nothing but another distraction akin to the big business about the surge. In reality, the surge had to work to some degree because there was not much left in Iraq to protect after the Shi'a declared a ceasefire and the Sunnis were bought off with U.S. taxpayers money. However, to measure the surge against the benchmarks that were identified renders the surge success somewhat vague.

I liken the actual results of the surge to what could have been used to establish a false security after the failed followup to our "shock and awe" start to the Iraq war. We went merrily by ammo/weapon stockpile after ammo/weapon stockpile on our quick march to Baghdad. We chose to neither destroy them nor to guard them. The looters cleaned them out. If we had gone back to secure them, we would be boasting about the fact that we had so and so number of weapons compounds secure, knowing full well that there was nothing there. The point is, there are many areas of Iraq that have been bombed into the stone age, but we now lay claim to our dominance over these areas. Wow! Somewhere between the reporting on the right and the left is the real story.

Based on the fact that the right is now trying to make an issue of Obama's waist size, I cast my vote with the left-leaning media to attempt to give reasonable coverage to events. The right has too much invested in its failed operations and politicies.

Posted by: Earl C | August 2, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

What is it that is actually wrong about a candidate changing their minds?

Posted by: Max Sewell | August 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I would much rather have a president who is willing to compromise than an idiot that says I'm the "Decider". He is willing to work with Republicans to get us out of this mess. Call it flip flop, change in position or refinement. It is what it is. McCain can't even remember what the hell he voted for and all he's done is talk about Obama's popularity while coming out with the most rediculous ad campaign ads.

Posted by: Ryan | August 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"He still opposes drilling in Alaska, where all the oil is, ..."


How do we know that he opposes drilling in Alaska? That could change in a matter of minutes. Barry also said he was opposed to off shore drilling. He reversed himself on that. Barr was going to filibuster the FISA bill. He voted for it. Is it me or does there seem to be a pattern here? We should have known better, Barry voted for Cheney's energy bill. Barry's talk and action are diametrically opposed.

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 2, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I guess Barry's energy policy of keeping our

tires inflated was not enough so now he

copies McCain. Thank God he is the candidate

of CHANGE.

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 2, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"He still opposes drilling in Alaska, where all the oil is, ..."

I would like some citations and references. My information is that most of the oil is off shore. The oil in Alaska could be part of our strategic reserve as small as it is.

But I am open to correction.

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | August 2, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I will never vote for the FISA bill, I will filibuster it. I will have the troops out of Iraq in 16 weeks. There is no reason to drill for oil off shore. Guess who said this. Barry the FLIP FLOPPER.

Posted by: August West | August 2, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Car! is that all, let's talk about utilities and the quickest way to be energy independent.

THE WAR WORTH VOLUNTEERING FOR . . .

GET OUT OF Bush's War -- $150 billion per year war [actually $300 billion when all the bills are tallied] . . . . . And put half [or a fourth] of that money toward the real war effort.

WE CAN EASE the climate crisis, the economic crisis, the crisis of dependence on foreign energy, and decrease the importance of the Middle East all at once.

"Promises that more offshore drilling will magically bring down prices are not backed by the evidence. . . . A lot more oil has been found, a lot more has been produced. We have been drilling for more oil, and the prices have gone up, " Al Gore said. . . . . . . And T. Boone Pickens, Texas oilman and co-founder of the Swift-boaters, two of the most unlikely bedfellows, agrees.

Al Gore uttered the disturbing truth that "the exploding demand for oil, especially in places like China, is overwhelming the rate of new discoveries by so much that oil prices are almost certain to continue upward over time no matter what the oil companies promise." . . . . . . And T. Boone Pickens agrees.

Al Gore's core assertion is that the technology for alternative fuels -- wind, solar and geothermal -- is far more advanced than we realize. . . . . Pushing that progress further would cut the costs of energy, with Gore insisting that renewables could eventually "give us the equivalent of $1 per gallon gasoline." . . . . . And T. Boone Pickens agrees.

"The only way to break free from the burden of rising gasoline prices and electricity rates is to get free" from a process through which we "bid up the price of every last drop of oil and every last lump of coal," Gore said. Cheaper electricity and the enhanced technology that comes in getting it, in turn, will speed the onset of electric cars. . . . . And T. Boone Pickens agrees.

T. Boone Pickens has said hundreds of times publicly that, "We can't drill our way out of the energy problem." . . . . . And Al Gore agrees.

Voters say they hate gimmicks and insist they want bold solutions. Well, Al Gore and T. Boone Pickens are testing that proposition. They are saying that the political space needs to be expanded for those actually running for office. Will Obama or McCain take the opening?

So my question to McCain and Obama is simple, are you willing to take up Gore's Ten-Year-Challenge with warlike zeal? Or, do you insist on "Plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious [hydro-carbons] of tomorrow"? (Ike Eisenhower)

Visit this site to learn more and add your voice: http://www.wecansolveit.org/

Posted by: Coldcomfort | August 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

SHIFT = FLIP FLOP

FISA = FLIP FLOP

BARRY = DECEIVER

Posted by: Jack Straw | August 2, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain flip flopped for political purposes. He still opposes drilling in Alaska, where all the oil is, because he wants to claim some environmental cred. Obama does not support drilling, and still says it won't do anything for oil prices - it won't. He is simply willing to let Republicans have something in return for compromise.

That's called the bipartisan compromise McCain keeps saying Obama can't do. got ya.

Posted by: JoeT | August 2, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Let's see:

Obama now agrees with McCain on Iraq and wants our withdrawal to be conditions-based.

Obama now is moving toward the McCain position calling for a balanced approach toward building energy independence.

Obama is "re-considering" his call for raising the capital gains tax and is moving toward McCain's position (leaving it at 15%).

Why doesn't the good senator from Illinois just return to the senate, gain some experience, and continue FOLLOWING while President John S. McCain continues LEADING?

Posted by: stickety | August 2, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

alright, an article like this illustrates how partisanship is perpetuated through media. clearly, if any side wants something done there are going to have to be pragmatic compromises made. you give some you take some. his stand hasn't really been he's against the idea of off-shore drilling--it's been that he doesn't believe off-shore drilling will solve our energy issue. of course the mccain folks want everything to look like a flip so journalist go ahead and call obama's move a "shift" instead of a "compromise." can journalists get out of the bubble and think without getting spun for once??

Posted by: phi | August 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of drilling, you McCain supporters should drill deeper into your candidate's past.

He married into quite a network in Arizona.
Google: McCain Hensley Marley Lansky Bronfman

It's ironic that McCain is vetting VPs- he's the one who needs to be vetted. We saw how the JFK thing ended when he turned on his supporters.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

We are so naive to let a stupid ad or Britney Spears and Paris Hilton distract us from what Obama achieved in Europe and the Middle East. The world wants an Obama presidency because just like the majority of Americans they too want change from the failed Bush policies. Now compare that with Mccain's Britney spears ad and Moses ad. Mccain is the kind of leadership and incompetence we should be voting against. Obama asked our allies to help us with the war in Afgainistan, global warming, and preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. These are the major challenges the next president will face. Obama will definatey get the support from our Europeans allies and our Middle Eastern allies because he has the support of the governments and its people. Mccain doesn't, thats why he put out these stupid ads to distract us from what an Obama administration is capable of and What a Mccain administration is not capable of. Our allies all over the world see Mccain as a 3rd Bush presidency. Obama's presence in the world is powerful and America needs that support from our allies to help us with the challenges we face. Obama 08 and 09

Posted by: Janice | August 2, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The right wing will do anything to not have to actual solve America's problems. Now they are saying Obama is 'too skinny'.

Amazing. Obama plays basketball. He is in shape. And yes, he east salads. He cannot imitate Frankenstein when he walks like McCain does.

Posted by: Bruce becker | August 2, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Liar Liar Liar. Hillary Clinton is the one that opened her mouth about NAFTA. When they asked her about her NAFTA speech, she said you can take with a "grain of salt." Hillary's just as corrupt as the republicans. I think it was Ohio, she told that NAFTA lie about Obama before he could respond, and she wound up winning the state. Talk about lo-down and dirty.

Posted by: HemiHead | August 2, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

You guys can call Obama the one if you want to and make fun of it but theres nothing funny about our standing in the world. Our problem are many and complicated. We have to wars going on in Iraq and Afganistan/Pakistan, Iran is on the brink of acheiving nuclear weapons, and our economy is in major trouble. The value of our dollar is decreasing, Were over 9 trillion in debt. Our military is over stretched and this is due to the Bush/Mccain policies that Mccain wants to continue if president. We have major problems that we can't solve by ourselves, we need our allies help. Our European allies help that is running away from the screw ups Bush/Mccain made in the Middle East. Obama's speech in Berlin with 200,000 supporters that came out to hear him speak is something Mccain can only dream about. The point of Obama's speech was to brige and strengthen our support with allies to help us with the mess that Bush/Mccain policies got us in. We need Europes help. As you can see we need more Nato troops to help us in Afganistan because Bush/Mccain got us to far stretched in Iraq. Were losing the war in Afganistan. Obama is the only one that has inspired Europe and will be able to get things done to benefit our country. If Europeans are in support of Obama we will be able to get the help from our allies to help us with the wars in the middle East and to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear power. Nobody in Europe is excited about a Mccains presidency because he's another Bush. Therefore, Mccain would not energize Europeans to help with his failed policies that he wants to continue. Obama can. Obama was askin our allies to help with the challenges of the 21 century and if he's president he'll get it. Mccain knows he wont and thats why he made these stupid ads to make fun of Obama's success over seas because Obama upstaged Mccain and he's frustrated and jealous that he can't even energize his own base let alone 200,000 Europeans.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

ALEX H., good list. But the NAFTA/advisor thing was a half-truth, it's a mistake for the advisor to talk that way and was not following Obama's platform. Just remove that line and your list is 100% CORRECT!

Obama does not show leadership. He just wants to be on top without making the big decisions.

Posted by: trustthesky | August 2, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Off shore oil drilling is not a bad idea, I view it as protection against world oil shocks. Just in case 8 to 10 yrs from now, we encounter some global emergency and we need oil supplies closer to the U.S.. In the very least we can quickly nationalize the Oil companies and make sure all the oil goes to the U.S.

Remember energy is neither created nor destroyed, so when we talk about electric/ethanol hybrids we must remember that the electricity required to charge the batteries must come from somewhere, whether it be coal, nuclear, natural gas, etc. Also, we must remember that the electrical infrastructure is quite old and is regularly near capacity. Don't forget that the materials to make the batteries also comes from somewhere.

Eventually electricity will be the dominate transmitter of energy, but that should be a long range goal. We need short, mid, and long term cost effective solutions. This is why its best to commission a panel of scientists, engineers, and economists to draw up a plan or at least at set of strategic goals and tactics we should follow.

Any plan or strategy should be well thought out, taking into account the potential and the limitations of current and near future technologies.

Posted by: Gonzo | August 2, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey! He's the candidate of CHANGE!

Posted by: Mmtambo Jones | August 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a fake. He'll say and do whatever it takes to win. Nobody knows his position, because he's an unknown. The best his supporters can do is say "have HOPE" or "yes we can!" Wow.

Posted by: mbuda de mjimbo | August 2, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

That whole Nafta issue regarding Obama staff member making promises to Nafta turned out to be one of Clintons staff memebers. Beside it was Mark Penn a lobbyist that was trying to pass a Columbian deal while Hillary was on the stump talking about reforming Nafta.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Hillary would have sold out in a minute. She's all business. Just look at her voting record. I'm not happy about Obama giving in on this, but at least the oil companies aren't getting away with murder. When the media reports their drilling stats on the polls, I wonder If their telling people that the oil companies already have access to 68 million acres for drilling. I wonder if their telling people that Pelosi introduced a bill to stop speculation in the market but the republicans shot it full of holes and flushed it down the toilet. The truth is, If Bush didn't deregulate the market we wouldn't have this problem. He's a greedy SOB that wants to get his hands on every drop of oil he can before he leaves office.

Posted by: Mike | August 2, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Nobody has changed their position more than John Mccain. Mccain helped pass the immigration reform bill and to win the republican nomination he said he would vote against his own bill. Now that Mccain needs Latino votes he now talking about immigration again. Mccain threw Latino's under the Bus to win the nomination.

During the republican nomination Mccain said one day he didn't support the confederate flag and 2 days later said the confederate flag was a sign of heritage in the south to win South Carolina. Mccain threw the black vote under the Bus to win the South Carolina.

Mccain was against the Bush tax cuts because he said they wouldn't be a good idea during a war and its aim were for the most wealthiest Americans. Now Mccain doesn't think their aimed at the wealthiest Americans or not a bad idea during a time when were at war. Mccain has embraced Bush tax cuts after years of opposing it.

Mccain was for permanent bases in Iraq like we have in Europe and Japan. Mccain said he didn't care if it took a 100 years we should stay in Iraq. Another Bush policy Mccain embraced. Now that Bush has agreed to PM Maliki's endorsement of Obama's 16 month strategy Mccain is saying that a timetable is a pretty good idea.

Mccain said Afganistan is not the central threat in the war and we shouldn't send more troops into Afganistan. Now Mccain is following Obama's lead and said he'll send more troops into Afganistan.

Mccain said he didn't understand economics and he still needed to be educated and Tim Russert reminded him he said it and Mccain agreed. Just last month on the Morning Show Mccain is back to denying he said he didn't understand economics.

Mccain made it a rule that he wouldn't have lobbyist run his campaign. Mccain has 133 Lobbyist running his campaign.

The list goes on and on. So, Mccain has over 53 flip flops that he flips to than flip against sometimes he fips to and flip back and flips to again. The truth is Mccain makes decisions for political expedency and he can't be trusted. No Mccain. Mccain in the White House would be a completer disaster.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Of course, one can ALWAYS believe EVERYTHING TheOne says:

I will take public financing for my campaign-----I will NOT take public financing for my campaign.
Clinton's NAFTA is BAD-----"Canada's CTV News reported that a 'senior member' of Obama's campaign had phoned (Canadian Ambassador) Wilson personally to advise him to 'not be worried about what Obama says about NAFTA'.
I will get the troops home immediately-----I will NOT get the troops home immediately.
"I could no more disown him (rev. wright) than I could disown my ... grandmother."-----I DISOWN rev wright. (Look out grandma, you may be next!).
I support total gun control-----I do NOT support total gun control.
NO on offshore drilling-----YES on offshore drilling.
I don't need no stinkin' flag pin-----I NOW WEAR a flag pin since I'm now patriotic (wink, wink)!
No immunity for illegal wiretapping telcos-----I vote YES on Bush's immunity for illegal wiretapping telcos.

At last, I finally know what he really means by "change".
"Change we can NOT believe in."

Remember that guy who masqueraded as a "compassionate conservative" to get you to vote for him? Don't be duped by another chronic, habitual liar!

Posted by: ALEX H. | August 2, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The McCain Bush Oil drilling idea will do nothing. This is why.
Oil companies already have more then 70 million acre of drillable oil land. The fact of the matter is that the Oil companies do not have the equipment to drill more land and do not want to.
Oil companies spend around 55% of their profits on speculation, stock buy backs and executive pay. If the GOP would support Obama's and the Dem's anti-speculation legislation then we could see some real solutions getting passed.
This same thing happen with Enron. The government in California allowed speculators who were reducing supply, and getting rich to create the energy policy. We all know how that turned out. So please lets not repeat history.

Posted by: Sam | August 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama did not shift on policy.
People stop listening to the slanted media. Don't let the media get you to believe in lies.
Obama does not support the GOP's Oil Interest drilling idea. Obama is just willing to come together and compromise in order to get the actual solutions that he supports passed so that American's can feel relieve.

Posted by: Sam | August 2, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

We'll If Obama flip flop on offshore drilling so did Mccain. It was only last month that Mccain changed his position to drilling offshore. Mccain and Obama flip flop on drilling because 70% of Americans want this bill to pass. If there running for president they can't go against what the people want.

Posted by: Greg | August 2, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

We'll I think Obama is showing leadership because he is the leader of the Democrat Party. This bill will not pass if both Republicans and Democrats work together. Obama is skeptical of drilling offshore would decrease gas prices but the the oil companies want it, Republicans are pushing for it and Obama is willing to compromise to get something done instead of a gridlock in congress. This was not Mccains plan because Mccain was against it and now he supports it and Obama is willing to compromise so it can get passed. That way everybody is happy.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

John McCain..... cynical
Narack Obama.... hopeful

Posted by: Ron | August 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

so obama's signing onto another groups plan is a sign of his leadership????

What's he running for...
" follower "?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

WHILE BEING INTERVIEWED BY WOLFF BLITZER MCCAIN ADMITTED THAT 16 MONTHS WAS, AND I'M QUOTING " A PRETTY GOOD TIMETABLE".
ISN'T FLIP-FLOPING HUH, JONATHAN DUMBO?

WITH RETARDED LIKE THAT NO WONDER JON STEWART AND COLBERT ARE MAKING THAT KIND OF MONEY!!!!!


I just canceled my subscription to this garbage call the Wash post and switch the Nation. I couldn't wait more since I'm in Canada now so I called my wife to do it. I'll suggest every progressive and real patriot to do the same in order to put those ODDBALLS like Johnathan Weisman or Dana Millibank on welfare.

Posted by: Robert | August 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama's stance

I am te savior you idiots!

Nobody is better than me.

Thin resume !

Hillary 2012

Posted by: Jacob | August 2, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

here, I got these quotes and information from the New York Times.....they reported the whole issue, try it sometime:::::::

"If we come up with a genuine bipartisan compromise, where I have to accept some things that I don't like in order to get energy independence, that's something I will have to consider," Mr. Obama said

and.....

The proposed bill, from his point of view, offers some attractions. It would strip oil companies of $30 billion in tax breaks, renew tax breaks for solar and wind power, and give consumers a tax credit to buy electric or fuel cell cars.

but.....

Still, he cautioned that he is not yet "ready to sign off on any approach."

How bout Report the news not Create the news

Plus this compromise is like what bush did with iraq funds.....the dems got to impliment the GI Bill they wanted and the REpublicans got billions more for the war

Posted by: Oregon4Obama | August 2, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Borack Obama: "Change you can't keep up with"!

Posted by: Robytr | August 2, 2008 1:47 PM

How about: "Change that makes you flip"?

Posted by: Bob | August 2, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Once again, Mr. Obama changes his position and passes it off as a "refinement". I have "always" stated that politicians should change their minds in accordance with the needs of the day, nothing has changed here except that the polls show that the American people are in favour of off-shore drilling. The fact that there are many drilling sites already approved does not mean that all the sites would be sufficiently productive. There is nothing that can be done to give any relief to Americans immediately where the price of gas is concerned. The economists who evaluated the 18 cents tax removal from the cost of gas appeared to consider only thse Americans who drove a reasonable distance to and from work. They may not hav considered the savings for small businesses that operated a small fleet of vehicles; they may not have considered the truckers who use the bulk of the gasolene (or diesel) that affect the price of goods and groceries; they also did not consider the farmers and others who also use gasolene in their daily lives when computing the benefits.

However, more important than this is what is reflected in paragraph 4 of the piece. It quotes Mr. Obama as stating: "...if we can come up with a bipartisan compromise in which I have to accept some things I don't like, or the Democrats have to accept some things they don't like, in exchange for moving us in the direction of energy independence, than (stet) that's something I'm open to." Obviously the "I" refers to President Obama, which he is not yet, and the last time I looked he was also a Democrat, or is he telling us something by making a subtle distinction between "I" and the Democrats?

Posted by: CalP | August 2, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Ask those young youths to go find a Managerial job right out of college without any experience.. What would the employers say? Why are we risking America with an inexperienced presumptous guy?

Posted by: Independent | August 2, 2008 1:23 PM

Ummm what was McCain's experience? Being shot down in a military jet? Having one of the lowest participation rates and voting turn out records in the Senate? For the same reasons the employer wouldn't hire Obama for having too little experience he wouldn't hire McCain for having the wrong qualifications for the job.

The Baby-Boomers sold this country out. Exported our jobs, threw our gov't in the red, lowered our educational and environmental standards and made us the world's most hated country.

And now as you let social security and private pension plans bleed dry and we are going to be forced to pay the medical bills that are forever increasing because you turned health care into one of the largest for profit industries.

By all accounts your generation should be banned from any leadership roles. You lost Vietnam you say you supported equality but refuse to vote for a black man and since Vietnam the only thing the baby boomers have been good at is dividing this nation.

Can the youth manage this country? Maybe not but you guys had way too many chance and continue to fail.

Posted by: The Youth | August 2, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

By election daye he will take most of the position of McCain.

This Obama guy is good for Celebritiy.

Posted by: Shawn | August 2, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I am always amused at how the Post spins actions so that any action taken by a liberal which is any way contrary to chapter and verse of the left as somehow forced by the evil Republicans.

This, of course, is the "Devil made me do it" postulate.

Perhaps Obama has shifted position becaused he was finally briefed by someone competent on the topic and recognized that his prior position was wrong. Not to mention that doing the right thing is a lot easier when Joe Sixpack has shown he understands the issue.

This is going to get interesting, however, because nothing upsets the Trust Fund Left (spending the wealth created by mostly Republican ancestors and big Obama donors) more than having the disrupted while yachting or sitting on the deck of their ocean front estate.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, Peter. That's all politics is, a game of compromise. Those who don't know how to play need to get another occupation. The fools who actually let the situation become gridlocked in the first place are the ones we should be shunning. Those who would prefer to go on vacation with absolutely no solution to one of our biggest national security challenges are the bad guys.

That includes, by the way, some on the GOP side who didn't want to budge unless the oil companies had free reign to do whatever they please.

The Gang of Ten Senators, Barack Obama and anybody else who comes forward in support of this new energy plan should be welcomed with arms wide open. It's only the beginning but it's a healthy and much needed start.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 2, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The fundamental point is that we cannot drill our way out of the energy crisis.

Non-petroleum energy, by whatever means, is the only long term solution.

Obama knows it and says it. McCain knows it and lies about it.

If some compromise on drilling with race-baiting reactionaries like John McCain and his followers is necessary to get meaningful action to address the energy crisis, then so be it.

I'm all for leasing oil rights off the coast of red-baiting, racist, soon-to-be-underwater Florida as a means of raising money for research and development of alternative energy.

GOBAMA

Posted by: mnjam | August 2, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The John McCain policy flip-flop list (over 70 and counting):

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

Posted by: maxfli | August 2, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I was pleased to see Obama's support of this effort. I was watching it on c-span yesterday and it is what should have been done by the full congress.Compromise. That's called checks and balances. Leaders on both sides should be voted out of their positions if not their office. Their toxic attitude is epidemic as displayed in many of these postings.United we win. Divided we fail.Wake up America!!

Posted by: Jim T. | August 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Is there any more room under that bus for the eco-progressives?
Hand Guns
FISA
Abortion
Grandmother
Mentor and uncle-like dude
His Church
Now the enviromentalists.

Posted by: jdcw | August 2, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

God Bless commenters on Washpost.com.

They hate compromise and they hate someone who can actually try and make Washington work.

I bet the same posters what things to get better, but throw bombs at a presidential candidate that can grow his opinions and try and reach across the aisle to get things done.

We truly have gotten waaaay to used to the way W. Bush does business.

Posted by: Peter | August 2, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Borack Obama: "Change you can't keep up with"!

Posted by: Robytr | August 2, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Actually, as Nancy Pelosi has already stated in an interview on CNN, there are millions of acres on public lands that have already been approved for drilling, some of which is off shore. But, the oil companies haven't touched those, they want more leases, especially those in sensitve areas. I believe this is all hype to get as much land cleared for drilling before the election. If they thought drilling would bring in oil they would begin work on land which they're leasing, immediately. Plus the fact that no more refineries are being built, for good reason. Only a few years ago the refineries were being temporarily shut down, reportedly for repairs, but shortage of electricity caused brown outs all through California. We all remember the enron traders laughing about this situation which drove prices through the roof. Why do we continue to believe these thugs and the politicians they have bought?? I'm talking about you John Mc.

Posted by: Elisabeth | August 2, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"ANYONE, foolish enough to believe this dude's promises, should be hit with a stick on the head!"

What promises has Barack Obama broken?

The only promise I've seen from him is that he'd be a compromising President who can listen to both sides of an issue, no matter how looney one side may be, so that we can come to an agreement instead of the stupid gridlock we see now.

Barack Obama never promised that there wouldn't be offshore drilling. He said he was skeptical of it and he remains so. But it's the only way we can move forward on energy legislation and the states will have final say in whether or not they want drilling on their land.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Barry O'Flip-Floppa approves of all his messages,

right up to the times he "Changes" them! ;~)

ANYONE, foolish enough to believe this dude's promises, should be hit with a stick on the head!

After all, it obviously would not damage anything! :-/

Posted by: RAT-The | August 2, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

When will America going to learn about this Obama Flip Flopper. Who is using Race card while shamelessly complained about Hillary of using Gender card. Send out rap singer to call Hillary a B... and McCain a paralyzed.. Cluelessly Flip Flopping. Ask those young youths to go find a Managerial job right out of college without any experience.. What would the employers say? Why are we risking America with an inexperienced presumptous guy?

Posted by: Independent | August 2, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"But it is not clear how far Obama's endorsement will get the Senate compromise."

You can bet your ass that Obama's endorsement of the 'Gang of 10' Bipartisan Energy Plan has put new wind beneath their wings. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid might have been able to ignore those 10 Senators if they stood on their own but Barack Obama, as a third pillar of the Democratic leadership, has just given all Dems the OK to get behind it and abandon the ultra leftwing.

If the August recess is too much then President Bush can call an emergency session of Congress like some politicians on both sides of the aisle have asked for.

Let's get the job done.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 2, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

This is one position he should not have changed his view on.

Huge mistake. America needs a solution not political rhetoric.

Obama is quickly losing the liberal base of his party as he caves into big oil pressure.

Posted by: Southeasterner | August 2, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Oil will one day run out and prices in the long run will only go up until we come up with alternative.

America you have two choices:

1) Short term drilling solutions that will help stabilize prices for a few years in 2020 but once that's gone you will be screwed because that was all we had left (McCain)
2) Switch the US vehicle fleet over to electric/ethanol plug in hybrids that will use electricity from our grid during off peak hours, decrease our foreign trade deficit by 70%+, will give American auto makers the motivation they need to stay competitive with the Japanese and Germans, create thousands of new jobs, help increase US exports of new technologies, help America reach CO2 reduction levels set by Kyoto, clean our air, decrease cancer rates and save American tax payers trillions in oil costs and gov't oil subsidies (what should have been Obama)

Ohh and just by talking about answer 2, speculators will get scared, pull billions for the oil market and help prices come back down to the $60/bl range.

And just by talking about answer 2 Obama will win Michigan, Ohio and most of the Midwest who are growing corn, need those auto jobs and actually want to be globally competitive.

I guess Nader is the only option now?

Posted by: You lost me Obama | August 2, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody care about policy positions any longer? The gloves are off. McCain's "The One" ad is designed to make Obama look like the anti-Christ.

And, make no mistake, it was McCain who lied and cheated on his first wife, then broke his vow and tossed her aside to marry a young, rich, model who was born into an Arizona crime family.

McCain married into the mob.

If anyone's the anti-Christ it's McCain.

http://www.girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-mccain-and-mob.html

Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

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