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Warner Pick for Convention May Signal Sidelines for Kaine


Va. Gov. Tim Kaine, Richmond Mayor L. Douglas Wilder and former Va. governor Mark Warner at a Virgnia political dinner earlier this year. (Linda Davidson/The Washington Post)

By Michael D. Shear
The choice of former Virginia governor Mark R. Warner to give the Tuesday night keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention is likely to spark a fresh round of speculation about Sen. Barack Obama's vice presidential choice.

Warner's selection is unlikely to be good news for current Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, who has been a finalist for the running mate job. The prospect of two Virginia governors giving speeches on successive nights at the convention is thought to be unlikely.

Obama's running mate, whoever it is, is scheduled to give the keynote on Wednesday.

A source close to Kaine said Tuesday night -- before this morning's announcement about Warner -- that the governor had seemed glum, and believed that he would "get the silver medal" in the vice presidential sweepstakes.

Obama's decision to make security the theme of Tuesday night during the convention is also seen by tea leaf readers as a subtle hint that Kaine and other governors without foreign policy credentials might be less likely choices.

Warner, who preceded Kaine in Virginia's Executive Mansion, is not known for being an especially dynamic speaker. In an e-mail, Obama said Campaign Manager David Plouffe focused on Warner's background as a business executive.

"Like Barack Obama, Mark Warner is not afraid to challenge the status quo to bring people together and get things moving," Plouffe said. "It's that kind of spirit and innovation that resulted in his selection as keynote speaker on a night when we will be discussing how
to renew America's promise."

For Warner, the national profile will help his already lopsided Senate race against former governor James S.Gilmore III. For Obama, the choice might help win in Virginia, a true battleground state in the presidential race for the first time in decades.

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"Obama's Cabinet will be absolutely stellar"

Would it include Wright, Rezko, and Ayers? They could advise him on church and financial matters, as well as terrorist activities.

Posted by: Billw | August 14, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Gov. BILL RICHARDSON of New Mexico for VP

The best choice for Vice President IMO, would be Gov. BILL RICHARDSON of New Mexico. He is an honorable man who was one of the first to come to Obama's support. He would attract the HUGE Latino vote also and help win the Western States,--such as Arizona, New Mexico and even California. I hope people understand this and get behind his selection. He would be perfect to help on a decent solution for the Immigration problems. (Grew up in Mexico City.)

1) He is the two term Governor of New Mexico, a swing state.
2) He was Sec. of Energy (under Clinton.)
3) He was a Congressman in the House for 14 years (knows Congress)
4) He was Ambassador to the UN (Foreign Affairs experience.)
5) Nominated five times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
6) Highly educated. (University Professor, Holds several degrees.)

OBAMA NEEDS HIM MUCH MORE THAN HE NEED THE CLINTONS AND THEIR
PROBLEMS IN DUBAI.

Posted by: Clifford | August 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Bill Richardson is the right man for running mate!

Posted by: Bianca Menzel | August 14, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Bill Richardson is the right man for running mate!

Posted by: Bianca Menzel | August 14, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

As usual the American Press is telling us who the Vice President will be & who to vote for in the up-coming election. I don't like listening to the Press or taking their advice. They've become to big for their pants & need a muzzle. They've shoved Obama down Americas throat from day # 1, all through the primaries & now in the Presidential election. I don't like Obama & won't vote for him. Where's all the articles about McCain & not just the sarcastic ones you always seem to print. Quit making the Great Black Hope .... he's a nothing but phony made up by the Press. WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!!

Posted by: SadAmerican | August 14, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

Biden is looking more and more possible.. He is my first choice

Posted by: Mark | August 14, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse


I love how none of us have much clue about who it will be.

It's also nice to see the GOP paying for their mistakes.

Posted by: Nym | August 14, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

The two picks are clear for all the right reasons: Biden or Clark.

You want to stay "on message" (anti-invasion, unity with a HRC supporter, Washington outsider)? Go Gen. Wes Clark.

You want to mend all these fences and have an attack dog with both balls and expertise and convince skittish voters you're ready for primetime? It's Sen. Joe Biden.

All the rest, especially Bayh, are yeah-buts.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

My choice: Claire McCaskill

Probable choice: Wes Clark

Darkhorse: Bill Richardson

Either way, this is a lock: Obama's Cabinet will be absolutely stellar

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

should chose me to b e his vice president....

I'd take some EFFECTIVE STEPS quickly....

this country would be back on it's feet in 2 years, guaranteed....

and some people would be going through the legal system with their bank accounts and their companies bank accounts FROZEN, or under new managment in the interim....GUARANTEED...


keep AMERICA BEAUTIFUL.....indict prosecute attach properties sue them into oblivion and recover stolen funds....then to the HAGUE...


.

Posted by: o ba ba ma man | August 13, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

If Barack is the man we hope for him to be (a transformative figure of great change and quality judgement), we would expect such a person to choose a VP based upon their ability to execute their vision upon his absence, rather than the less idealistic political gains of gaining votes in the general election. If that is the case, his choice for second in command will be Tim Kaine. They have a kinship in their ideals.

Posted by: the dude | August 13, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

O ba ba man, won't be successful if he doesn't know how to be effective and he has no support.....

his appearance of support is not the same as the actuallity of support...

unless he goes along with same_old_same_old or there is a new CONGRESS


he won't have any more support than Jimmy Carter...


how much of what the people want is happening??? Jack sxxx would be an accurate appraisal...


for O ba ba man to be successful he needs more than the people behind him, the right people have to be in Congress...


and that would be the smart thing to create too...


pack Congress with some capable people, and get rid of the Repulsive scammers....


. . . .....

Posted by: dear enn.... | August 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

The VP is going to be Evan Bayh. They had good chemistry when together. I think Obama would prefer Kaine, but he needs someone with more experience and he wants Indiana. Bayh was also a Hillary supporter, but he did vote for the war, but so did Biden and Dodd.

Posted by: Carolyn Grace | August 13, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is been vetted by the millions that are putting him in office . in spite of the elite that run our muultinationals, fox and their bandits /pundits.
We need to revive America and heal it from 8 years of dhaving no one at the helm with any type of knowledge as to how to run the executive branch. Where are all the republicans that when in with Bush?

Posted by: enn | August 13, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Webb expressly state that he had no interest in the VP spot? Granted this was a few weeks ago at least, but I do recall more than a few articles about it.

As for Clark, didn't he make an inflammatory statement a few months back that essentially left him under the bus?

Kerry? I doubt it, given that he lost in 2004.

Whoever Obama chooses expect it to be political (what a stupidly obvious point)

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | August 13, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

think that "being a christian"


is a demerit...


needing to have someone tell you what and how to think, is not something I respect...

and since Constantine took over the christian religion in 357 AD or whenever it hasn't been quite the same...


most AMERICANs think of church as something that they watch on television...

ignorance is bliss in those households....ask the Pope how he feels about birth control in Africa....in the middle of an AIDs epidemic...

dogma rules.....

pathetic people.

Posted by: I personally | August 13, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I hope Kaine is the selection. He will do less harm to Virginia as the VP than he does as Governor.

Posted by: Ken in VA | August 13, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

anyone who uses "VEEP" should be #&$^&)@ slapped.

Posted by: no one | August 13, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Actually the Southern Strategy was first executed by Barry Goldwater in Arizona and elsewhere: see Operation Eagle Eye, which was enforced by William Rehnquist.

Just like in Iran-Contra-Crack they wanted to blame everything on the dead guy, Casey, now they want all the Presidential tricks to be blamed on Nixon.

But that is not the truth of either matter.

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"Remember, that it was the Democrats who created the KKK as their political action wing. They were the same ones who kept segregation going with George Wallace leading the fight. Democrats fought AGAINST the Emancipation Proclamation, womens' right to vote, civil rights, and the list goes on. Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. They use the same plays that they did against Lincoln. Same rhetoric. It is amazing. These are all facts, that the Dems don't want you to know. They are purpetually reworking history. It is proven that most of what they blame on Republicans is actually what they are doing or have done."

Posted by: oneamericanvoice

You are loony. Now that you're no longer a liberal Democrat, I see you no longer believe in evolution, either. The chairs were reversed under Nixon because LBJ and the Democrats enacted the CIvil Rights Acts of the 1960s, which drove their Dixiecrat wing, including Grand Klaxon Strom Thurmond, to the Republicans, where they've been ever since. The Christians used to be persecuted by the Romans, until they were coopted and became the state religion, i.e., the Roman Catholics. Your diatribe is stupid.

Posted by: edwcorey | August 13, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

When was McCain vetted? And how did they miss the little fact that he *married into a crime family*?

http://www.girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-mccain-and-mob.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hensley

Posted by: Corruption Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Why is the MEDIA running this country opposed to the President/Congress?? The MEDIA is the DICTATORSHIP of this nation, bullying anyone who gets in their way, with the THREAT of bad publicity!! Maybe it's time to overthrow the CORRUPT media and take back AMERICA!!!!!

Posted by: MEDIA RUNS THE COUNTRY | August 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

1. He was born in the US.

2. He a Christian

3. He has a brain, he is a rational thinker.

4. He offers hope for people who feel hopeless.

Posted by: james | August 13, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

When was Obama vetted ?

Same bunch that did Edwards?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

Posted by: rtfanning | August 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I guess what I find so amazing is that many of the writers ping Obama for not having foreign experience. The moron of a president that we have couldn't even spell foreign experience when he was elected and probably still couldn't. And please, they don't get any dumber or dishonest than the current president and his administration. And McCain's experience, oh yeah, he was captured and then spilled his guts to his capturers. I love how it is so easy to throw stones at Barack who can at least spell president unlike our current one. And yes, John (George Bush) McCain will probably steal the election like Bush did and do just as great of a job with foreign and domestic affairs as his predecessor.

Posted by: Leslie | August 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I find it funny that Kaine is now out because he doesn't have foreign policy experience. Um, shouldn't the president be the one who has foreign policy experience? That's where all the pining for Webb, Biden, Nunn, Reed, Hagel, et al is coming from. This ticket is so upside down it's pathetic - and no security VP choice is going to change that. It's only going to make it all the more obvious where Obama is lacking.

Posted by: CC | August 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"A source close to Kaine said Tuesday night -- before this morning's announcement about Warner -- that the governor had seemed glum, and believed that he would "get the silver medal" in the vice presidential sweepstakes."

This is why I don't think Kaine is ready for prime time. So far we've gotten two helpings of him wearing his emotions on this sleeve. First the story of him eagerly blabbing to all his friends that he "is being seriously considered", and now he's sulking because it might not be him. Veep picks have to be a little more in control than that. Bayh is the extreme example of that that demonstrates the concept, though I actually think he might be too far in the other direction to the point of dull and emotionless.

But Kaine just comes off like a high school girl with these reactions, first elated that "he might ask me to the dance!" followed by "the love of my life has passed me by, my life is over!"

The right choice, of course, is Joe Biden. The other candidates didn't spend all their time saying "Joe's right" for nothing. He would be like a "light side" version of Darth Cheney. He would instantly set independents at ease about foreign policy, and he would be a great help in governing. Biden is reportedly ambivalent about the job, but he'll get used to it and learn to love it very quickly I think. He can be a sort of second Secretary of State. That's useful because we have a LOT of fences to mend.

Posted by: Mark | August 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

What does it matter on who Obama picks as his running mate. At the end of the day, we're still faced with a choice between the dual monarchy that is the American political system... but hey, it's one more choice than Cuba has so we should be excited.

Posted by: Ryan | August 13, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Kaine is exactly the kind of person Obama described as who he wanted for a VP. There are a few others. Hagel is one. Most of the people talked about just won't cut the mustard. I'll be satisfied if the person has integrity, independence and competence. If not, it will be a Rove-like pick.

Posted by: Gator-ron | August 13, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

would pick Webb because he knows enough to put his foot up Danny's but


which is why danny is pretending to be interested in the "other party,"


he's a con....a part of the propaganda team mingling with the good guys....trying to keep his contracts in tact...


he's a shunt of immoral intention...


pay attention.

.

Posted by: I | August 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

for those favoring ret. Genl. Wes Clark, there has got to be a reason why his prez campaign fizzled not once, but twice....
and he has a big tendency to offend people, which is the last thing that Camp Obama needs....they need a smooth talking type of person, no offense to this job category, but the kind of guy who can sell vacuum cleaners to folks with hardwood floors....

Posted by: danny | August 13, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

how can he challenge what he doesn't understand...


he knows nothing of the NARCO STATE status of Afghanistan...

the involvement of Zalmay Khalilzad who is current Ambassador to the UN with Afghanistan, Paul Wolfowitz or Harmid Karzai or Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney or Unlocal or Chevron or the Trans Afghanistan Pipeline or the involvement of Al Queada with the CIA or of the bush family ties to AL QUEADA AND THE TALIBAN....or who or what CentGas is or who Bridas Corporation...


but O ba ba man, ?knows? we need to be in Afghanistan...


because his "new friends" told him so...


Pee Wee Herman is into change.....


then he should know what he's changing


don't you think?


McCain knows what is going on, he's the part that needs to be


changed out, gotten rid of, eradicated, plowed under...


but Pee Wee,


he wants to look good, he a dumb A.

Posted by: actually | August 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

i truly am torn on Obama's running mate in 08.... i keep wavering between John (Honeyboy) Edwards, and Kwame (Lovechild) Kilpatrick.... altho for one who can just stick their foot in the mouth, then Sen. Webb is a good pick....

Posted by: danny | August 13, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama - Rezko - Auchi - Saddam Hussein?
Jaded by the political corruption the state of Illinois is immersed in, one might be tempted to shrug off the Rezko trial today as simply another showpiece for U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. After all, he's put away close to 150 corrupt Daley and Ryan administration workers and the Illinois public mumbles, but no shows no outrage.

One wonders if public sentiment would change (Yes, "CHANGE!") if it could be shown that Barack "CHANGE" Obama's strong opposition to the War in Iraq was based on financial ties to a Saddam Hussein arms dealer?

Obama buys a house in a land deal with Tony Rezko's wife, whose income at the time was $35k/year. In the days before the papers were signed, Rezko gets a loan from Auchi. Auchi and Rezko are pizza and real estate partners -- you know, little ol' harmless "Tony" Rezko, the small time Chicago operator.

Then mysteriously last month, Rezko goes to jail for breaking a bail agreement because he gets another $3.5 million loan from Auchi, the man who became the 279th richest man in the world partially by making arms deals with Saddam Hussein.

No, not a discredited urban legend about Obama's connections to terrorists, but this time a viable direct connect? RealClearPolitics.com's Jack Kelly comes thisclose to connecting the poisonous dots between Obama and Nahdmi Auchi:

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/obama---rezko-.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0bm1QHXAig&feature=related

Posted by: Volubrjotr | August 13, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Given all the talk about Obama challenging the status quo I really can't wait for him to actually do it! In fact I can't wait for him to actually challenge or take a firm stand on anything!

Posted by: Clugs | August 13, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

is an extension of the Military Industrial Complex...


I hope mister no nothing knows that much...


Posted by: Warner | August 13, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Given Warner's immense popularity, it looks like the Obama campaign is hoping for the up-ticket effect in Virginia. Warner makes the Commonwealth a winnable swing state, and the campaign wants to draw as many connections between Warner and Obama as they possibly can.

It doesn't necessarily preclude an Obama/Kaine ticket, but it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the Democrats to put all their eggs in one Virginian basket.

Posted by: John in Mpls | August 13, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

letting the military run everything isn't


moralistic...


it's engineering sense.


One doesn't let the coffers of the country be spent on what isn't in THE COUNTRY's and the PEOPLE's best interests...


right now you have the bulk of the monies going through CONGRESS going towards military projects, or support for military...


BUSHCO und CRONERSTAG...


we could have negotiated for the oil in IRAQ and placed troops there with the permission of the people....


but then Halliburton, Carlyle Group, Bechtel, KBR, Blackwater would have had to compete with others....


FRAUD is in control of the government right now, how about addressing that peasants????


how about addressing REALITY, rather than Edwards having $500 shoes like that means something...


how about pulling your weight in comments instead of trying to sell position for your candidates.

Posted by: not | August 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

now we have all of the intelligence Agencies headed by members of the military.....


we certainly need another one influencing the WhiteHouse


you all seem to have failed the Seperation of Powers part of the Constitution and not be requiring that the Intelligence Agencies adhere to that...


the Director of Nationl Intelligence reporting directly to the president is another violation of the letter and spirit of INDEPENDENCE in INTELLIGENCE gathering, but VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PROPAGANDA OVERRULING INTELLIGENCE...


you people dumb as bricks.


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Posted by: so | August 13, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Webb would be great in that he's the only one I know of that has less experience than Obama.
Biden would be great because he gives a great speech. Not his own speech, mind you, but still a great speech.

Posted by: c&d | August 13, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I think Kerry would be a great candidate,


if you wanted someone that would be the trojan horse for the Republicans...


he threw the 2004 Campaign didn't he....took the nomination, pulled his horse off to the side and let the


alcoholic, draftdodging, coke snorting, gay, unqualified, SEC Violating, insincere, son of an unprosecuted FELON (IRAN CONTRA) waltz accross the finish line


whilst pretending to be surprised...


'bout like watching Muhamad Ali take a whipping from Spinks....real convincing...


.

Posted by: gosh | August 13, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I say CLARK! WikiPedia says that Clark "was consistently within the top 5% of his class as a whole" at West Point. That would be an awesome contrast to McBrain's was 894 out of 899 (Again, WikiPedia).

Posted by: SSgt Wichlet | August 13, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

is on the short list of those genetically impaired.


.

Posted by: pete | August 13, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hagel or Clark. Like 'em both. Come to think of it, they kinda look the same except Hagel has a droopier outer brow ridge.

Posted by: Tom | August 13, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The only people likely to get consideration for veep are those who are seen as DC outsiders and who didn't vote for the authorization to go to war with Iraq. That short list is Clark, Kaine, Sebelius, McCaskill and Reed -- with Reed the only one who has been in DC for long. Biden, Bayh, Dodd, Clinton don't fit the profile. It would be silly for Obama to pick someone who goes against this core of his campaign.

Posted by: david r. mark | August 13, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Diane72, McCain was never at a KKK meeting. Democrat Senator Robert Byrd on the otherhand.... Remember, that it was the Democrats who created the KKK as their political action wing. They were the same ones who kept segregation going with George Wallace leading the fight. Democrats fought AGAINST the Emancipation Proclamation, womens' right to vote, civil rights, and the list goes on. Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. They use the same plays that they did against Lincoln. Same rhetoric. It is amazing. These are all facts, that the Dems don't want you to know. They are purpetually reworking history. It is proven that most of what they blame on Republicans is actually what they are doing or have done. I know, because I did it as a test. BTW, I was a Democrat and a liberal. Never again.

Posted by: oneamericanvoice | August 13, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I heard Kaine's comment yesterday about the Russians doing what Obama asked and having a cease fire. What blatant A__ kissing. Too bad Obama doesn't select a nitwit like him. Then they could campaign on a platform of dumb and dumber.

Posted by: LarryG | August 13, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"A source close to Kaine said Tuesday night -- before this morning's announcement about Warner -- that the governor had seemed glum, and believed that he would "get the silver medal" in the vice presidential sweepstakes."

This is why I don't think Kaine is ready for prime time. So far we've gotten two helpings of him wearing his emotions on this sleeve. First the story of him eagerly blabbing to all his friends that he "is being seriously considered", and now he's sulking because it might not be him. Veep picks have to be a little more in control than that. Bayh is the extreme example of that that demonstrates the concept, though I actually think he might be too far in the other direction to the point of dull and emotionless.

But Kaine just comes off like a high school girl with these reactions, first elated that "he might ask me to the dance!" followed by "the love of my life has passed me by, my life is over!"

The right choice, of course, is Joe Biden. The other candidates didn't spend all their time saying "Joe's right" for nothing. He would be like a "light side" version of Darth Cheney. He would instantly set independents at ease about foreign policy, and he would be a great help in governing. Biden is reportedly ambivalent about the job, but he'll get used to it and learn to love it very quickly I think. He can be a sort of second Secretary of State. That's useful because we have a LOT of fences to mend.

Posted by: Mark | August 13, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

You Wes Clark supporters seem to have forgotten his big gaffe and subsequent banishment from the campaign a few weeks ago. No way will he get veep or any cabinet position.

Biden would be OK by me. Don't know enough about Bayh, but don't expect Obama to rule him out because of the Senate seat. That's a 2-year appt max. Eyes on the prize: the White House. A supermajority in the Senate is a long-shot in any case.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | August 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

It's very obviously Biden. It won't be Bayh because they lose the Senate seat with the Repub Gov. in Indian.

Posted by: TJ | August 13, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Tim Kaine is a great man, but he served only three years as governor of Virginia adding him to the ticket will raise the experience question again. And the is last thing Obama needs is more false questions about his judgment. Biden, Bayh, Clark, Reid and maybe Clinton are being seriously considered.

Posted by: Allen | August 13, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

It should Wes Clark. He will clean McCain's warmongering clock and take the wind out of the attack on Obama's national defense experience. Obama already wins on economic issues.

C'mon Obama. The choice will also have traction in the over 65ers. Best team for a win in November. Choose well.

Posted by: Don Julio | August 13, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

and so according to Pat Leahy's Senate office, the Senator is on a "field" trip to Hawaii. Interesting huh? I think it is because Leahy is a former prosecutor and is up for the Attorney General job in a Obama administration. My "new" Dark Horse for the Veep spot is Bob Graham in Florida. He is an expert of Defense and Foreign policy, Intelligence Committee, and.... from Florida. We need Florida and the Old Folks, which are counter balanced by the repug Cubans who showed their simplistic availability during the Alien Gonzalez events.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | August 13, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Kevin

Posted by: maura | August 13, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

What about Bob Kerrey?? How come nobody is talking about him?

Posted by: DC | August 13, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72, that's not a black person behind you, that's your shadow. Try not to be so scared of change. The days of segregation are over and yes, interracial mingling is now legal. I know this upsets you, but it's time to remove those Klan robes and join the rest of the educated and cultured classes. Oh, and you don't have to whisper every time you say "black people" in public.

These words of wisdom to you, from a mixed race citizen, veteran, and healthcare executive with a masters degree. Welcome to the 21st century.

Posted by: Kevin | August 13, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

If you want a clue to who the VP will be, take a look at what Wednesday's theme is.

It's going to be Wes Clark.

Posted by: cab91 | August 13, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Warner declined to be vetted, so this headline is moot.

Posted by: Julie from Georgia | August 13, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72, stop listening to people who make stuff up.

Posted by: Lydia | August 13, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama was born in the USA. (Aug 4th, 1961 - Honolulu, Hawaii, U.S.A.)

McCain was born in South America. (Aug. 29, 1936 - Panama)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Better a Panama born candidate then a Muslim from Indonesia.

Posted by: Jinx | August 13, 2008 11:22 AM

Whose muslim from Indonesia? This guy, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono? I don't recall seeing him on any ballot...dumb a$$

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama's life is the american dream.

Born in the USA, lived in many states, and even for a short while lived overseas - all good experience for a future world leader.

Married his true love, and had two wonderful children with her.

Worked to help this american community, and continued to give back to america.

Now wants to work to make america a better place for us all.

If only we had more leaders like this willing to sacrifice, like Obama is doing.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter who is VP. Doesn't matter who is Pres. My miserable middle class life isn't gonna get any better.

Posted by: Abul Hassan Bani Sadar | August 13, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Kaine deserves to be on the sidelines.

He failed to measure up during his response to Dubya's MISstate of the Union, and he failed to stop the Richmond legislature carpet baggers from continuing to steal all the tax dollars from NOVA.

The roads in NOVA have become death traps, but Richmond still finds better uses for NOVAs money for nonessential luxury projects in other parts of the state.

Thanks Gov. Kaine for nothing!

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | August 13, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Pete, I think you have outsourced your thinking.

Posted by: Paul | August 13, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Barack will choose Bill Richardson, the Governor of New Mexico. Richardson might bring a majority of the Hispanic voters with him. Barack can then choose General Wesley Clark as a military / security advisor; Clark can then be in Obama's cabinet when he becomes President. The media keeps harping on the fact that many Americans do not believe that Barack Obama has enough experience. I Obama surrounds himself with excellent people he will do admirably well. Barack for President.

Posted by: RadianChalant | August 13, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The Virginian no one mentions any more would be the best choice Jim Webb. If not Webb then I would be pleased with Chuck Hagel. I trust Senator Obama to make the right choice since his judgment on all sorts of other issues has been sterling.

YES WE CAN! SI SE PUEDE!

Posted by: Col Joe Bento | August 13, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Bayh is bad for Americans. He supported the war, the Patriot Act, PNAC, has been invited to Bilderberg. Bayh is a shoe in for those who want New World Order, same groups as Hillary and Rumsfeld support. Hagle is the lesser evil as he has attended Bilderberg but was not swayed. I think Webb, Clark, or to lesser extent Biden would be good choices. Obama needs a general that knows his way around the Pentagon is you ask me.

Posted by: capo689 | August 13, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden, baby!

Posted by: edsbowlingshoe | August 13, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Who would be best hatchet man? This race is already nasty and it is likely to go downhill from here.

Posted by: nclwtk | August 13, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I'm still holding out for Wesley Clark. A 4-star general who led a SUCCESSFUL war, who was opposed to the Iraq war from the start, who is a white southerner, who is a dynamic speaker, and who was a Hillary supporter and so can mollify some of her diehards... he's the natural choice for Obama's veep.

Posted by: Garrett | August 13, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

it's Chuck Hagel.

you heard it here first.

Posted by: steve | August 13, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I would be very surprised if Joseph Biden is selected because he is an accident waiting to happen with the off the cuff remarks that he makes and could prove to be a distraction rather than an asset to Barack Obama.

Also his mannerisms are irritating to some people. That might seem to be a trivial reason to many but it hurt Al Gore in 2000.
Also, in my opinion, I think that behind the bluster of Biden lies a weak man.

Posted by: danielhancock | August 13, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

b: There's a lot of agreement between Obama and Bayh, but look at where the disagreements are. There are some major issues in there, chiefly Iraq and the Patriot Act. I think his stand on those major issues may rule him out as VP.

Posted by: Re-Pete | August 13, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Mark Warner is a crater faced crook who looted the government to make tens of millions of dollars during the tech boom. Every Virginian with a pulse knows it.

Posted by: Don | August 13, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Two really "intelligent" comments so far if you define "intelligent" as strongly opinionated with no underlying facts!

Kaine may still be in the running, but with the Georgian-Russian war still going on per some reports, wiser heads may have said "wait a minute".

If that is the thinking, I'd take Biden and the points. Bayh's seat, if Obama wins, might go to the GOP while DE would probably remain in the Democratic column.

Other rumors include JFK (make that John Forbes Kerry), but I can't see that. You'd set "Swiftboat" and more attacks on Obama.

Posted by: Not Drilling for McCain | August 13, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

This all but knocks Kaine out of the Veepstakes. I'd say it's down to Bayh and Biden, with Joe getting a slight edge because of the national security theme of the Veep's speech day.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | August 13, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I am not sure if Mark Warner giving a speech to the convention is a death knell to Tim Kaine's prospects as the author seems to suggest. Maybe the Obama campaign wants to give Virginia a double dose of exposure because they perceive it to be a winnable red state.

That being said, Tim Kaine or Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) would be a "play it safe" choice. Bayh does have more experience than Obama or Kaine so he might help to difuse the experience issue. But either candidate is not likely to excite voters and the selection of either by Barack Obama would be an indication that he thinks he will win if he avoids taking risks.

Posted by: danielhancock | August 13, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Seriously? There are people intelligent enough to take the time to read a story and post a comment who are threatened by Obama's name and a school he attended for a couple years...

Posted by: Jorda | August 13, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the level of dialogue is so high.

Posted by: roy | August 13, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

It's definitely Bayh. Lots of agreement.
http://whereistand.com/BarackObama/EvanBayh

Posted by: b | August 13, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Better a Panama born candidate then a Muslim from Indonesia.

Posted by: Jinx | August 13, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Technically, Pete, it's the Republicans who propose outsourcing the presidency to a Panama-born candidate.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 13, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The liberals thought Obama lacked the American root.
And they think outsourcing cost Americans' jobs.
Now they will "renew America's promise" by essentially outsourcing the American Presidency!

Posted by: pete | August 13, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

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