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By Glenn Kessler
Sen. John McCain today blasted the expulsion of the U.S. ambassador from Venezuela -- and at the same time the Republican presidential nominee sharply attacked his Democratic rival for suggesting he would meet with Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez during his first year in office.

Relations between the two countries have been particularly strained in recent days as U.S. officials have accused Venezuela of falling short in the war on drugs, including claiming three top Chavez aides of helping Colombian guerrillas traffic cocaine and topple the Colombian government. Chavez expelled the ambassador Thursday -- and the U.S quickly ordered the Venezuelan ambassador to leave -- after Bolivian President Evo Morales ousted the U.S. ambassador after claiming Washington was plotting to overthrow his government.

"I am deeply disappointed by the decision of Venezuela's government to expel U.S. Ambassador Duddy," McCain said in a statement "This diplomatic escalation, which follows Bolivia's expulsion of the American ambassador there, reminds us anew of the dangerous trends in our own hemisphere."

McCain asserted that he has "worked with America's allies in order to strengthen our relationships in this crucial region, one to which so many American citizens have deep economic, family and cultural ties."

By contrast, he said, Sen. Barak Obama "calls for meeting directly and unconditionally with the region's worst tyrants.... Rather than focus on strengthening America's ties with friends and allies, he has pledged to sit down with dictators in Venezuela and Cuba in the first year of his presidency. Such a course of action would undermine our democratic allies and embolden anti-American dictators. The United States, and our partners throughout Latin America, cannot afford Senator Obama's brand of unilateralism that rewards Hugo Chavez and his dangerous despotism."

In July 2007, Obama was asked during the CNN-YouTube debate a specific question: "Would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?"

Obama answered, "I would" -- generating controversy and grief for the candidate ever since.

In May, Obama amended his remarks to downplay the notion of meetings within the first year and making it clear an agenda would need to be set before any presidential summit: "The point is that I would not refuse to meet until they agree to every position that we want." he said. "But that doesn't mean that we would not have preparation, and the preparation would involve starting with low level -- lower-level diplomatic contacts.... But what I have said is that at some point I would be willing to meet."

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Poverty down by 30 percent in venezuela since the socialist government of Hugo Chavez was elected!!!

Why do you think Hugo Chavez is so popular across Latin America?

Obama and McCain are corporate politicans in a corrupt corporate democracy. I hope chavez will never meet with these stooges.

Posted by: Viva Chavez | September 16, 2008 10:51 PM

From the frauds with contracts for rebuilding Iraq, Haliburton, Al Qiada and Iran profit. Well done Gen. Petreus, the army in general and the american government. And the big losers are, guess who ? The average american taxpayer.

Posted by: jwh | September 14, 2008 7:35 PM

Obama is a product of Chicago Style gutter politics !!!

He has changed his color so many times!!!

Anyone has any doubt!!!

Posted by: David | September 14, 2008 2:01 PM

If John McCain is such a 'maverick', why is he still a Republican?
What hasn't he rejected the GOP and become an Independent like his friends Joe Lieberman and Michael Bloomberg?

Posted by: Dick Goodnuts | September 14, 2008 10:49 AM

Sen. Clinton's Former Chief Strategist on Palin and the Media-

CBS News 9/12/08

CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. And that's going to subject them to people concluding that they're giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, "Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time."

What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.
**********

Keep it up- the Independents are watching-

September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of IndependentsMajority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%USA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.


By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters' general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive.


Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 7:13 AM

Hmm...how does talking to your enemies make you inherently weak? Remember what you learned in kindergarten, talking good, fighting (unless there is no other recourse) bad.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 14, 2008 12:07 AM

So, let me get this right. If the democrats get elected, they will pander to our enemies which will to more attacks on our country, our way of life and ultimately our destruction. Because the democrats are weak, spinless primadonnas.
The republicans if elected wil keep our great nation strong by standing up to the bullies of the world, keep our country safe and won't be afraid to kick butt when need.
Ok, I wasn't aware of this, thanks.
I guess I'm voting republican.

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 7:48 PM

The ignorance of the Obama supporters really manifests itself in these comments. The US does not and never has bombed other countries which disagrees with it...just because it disagrees with it. If that were the case, we'd be bombing the entire world at this point (no one agrees with us elsewhere). It defends it's interests (and yes, oil is an interest) overseas... and if it didn't your life would be different. Perhaps those who don't "get it" can go live overseas somewhere and see what it's like... such as Europe, who enjoys 40% taxes and $10 /gal gas. Or southeast Asia, where terrorism is rampant... or South America, which from las observation has had a FLOCKING of immigrants to the shores of the southern United States to escape suppression there. For those of you out there who don't understand what it takes to be free, you don't deserve it, either.

Posted by: Wow | September 13, 2008 6:49 PM

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:48 PM

Okay, once again, I have to say that the left has again managed to make the political rhetoric all about Bush. Not their candidate or the other candidate, but the candidate that they can see that is furthest away from Bush. I, also, am getting tired of them calling everyone who disagrees with them idiots, stupid, fascists and warmongers. You see, that includes a great many americans who don't agree in part or parcel with your candidate. No, I don't condone some of the political opinions of my candidate and their political ads but I don't agree with all of Obama's either. Both seem to be oblivious to facts. So, if you think that you can persuade all of the americans that you have called all of these names in your posts to vote for your candidate you are quite naive. That is the worst name you will get out of me. McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 6:06 PM

Is anyone listening to the danger posed by hurricanes to the natural gas and oil pipelines in Texas and other gulf coast states? If so, then you will be voting Republican this fall because off-shore wells and pipelines from Alaska are not threatened by hurricanes like those in the gulf. Yes, I understand that hurricanes can travel up the east coast and the west coast, for that matter; however, they do not pose the interruption that those in the gulf of Mexico continue to pose. Forget the negative attacks and think about this country, people!

Posted by: registered independent | September 13, 2008 3:43 PM

Of course Obama would sit down with them, share a bit of cocaine and God knows what else. Before you know it - - the US would no longer exist.

Posted by: GP | September 13, 2008 3:02 PM

Interesting how every example of U.S. foreign policy incompetence and defeat becomes a launching point for Senator McCain to attack Senator Obama. Obviously, continuing Bush's aggressive international policies have worked so well that we will all want to double down with hair-trigger McCain and, God forbid, the brilliant international strategist, Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Chuck | September 13, 2008 2:45 PM

Stop blaming "US policy" for all the wrongs in the world. The fact that socialism, communism, and islamic fascism can't live up to the example America sets for everything that is good about a free and prosperous civilization explains the existence of a Chavez. A despot is a despot and I would predator drone him out of existence. Drill here and we don't need his oil.

Posted by: Shawn | September 13, 2008 2:06 PM

John McCain will obviously say anything to get elected. He is a liar and I will never trust him again!

Posted by: Katy7540 | September 13, 2008 1:55 PM

Oh I'm sure Senator Obama would have been able to settle this with Chavez over a couple of tall skinny half caf half decaf mochachinos.

Posted by: Joanne600 | September 13, 2008 1:40 PM

Video McCain throws his cell phone
http://www.mccanes.com

Palin has been accused of Affair,
http://www.theveep.com

Ron Paul, Going third Party Will ruin McCAins chances this year?http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 12:07 PM

This is great....."Team Obama's Sherman's-march-in-reverse continues. First they shifted ground forces from Georgia (lost cause) to NC; next they'll move them from NC (lost cause) to VA. Two weeks from now we'll likely hear they've been shifted across the Potomac, across Antietam, and up to Gettysburg...."

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 11:08 AM

mccain is a kid toucher?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:47 AM

Ask McCain if he has such a hard on for Hugo Chavez then why did he do a photo op on oil rig that was in part owned by the Venezuelan government in gulf?

Posted by: RENEA1 | September 13, 2008 10:25 AM

McCain had better realize one thing. You don't have to like someone to talk to them. Sure Chavez is an s.o.b., but, especially after Ike, if he cuts off his oil, $6 a gallong will be cheap.

John, put Bush's "Axis of Evil' thoughts out of your mind, but wait, speaking of out of your mind (fill in the blank)

Posted by: Dumbo John | September 13, 2008 10:12 AM

I hope the political contest gets back to these issues so voters can see the contrasts for themselves. How do we get through all the rhetoric and scare tactics of both campaigns to really see what is underneath? The press certainly does not help by trying to analyze sound bites. For an update on who seems to be the most stressful candidate, visit the real-time poll at http://www.bop-o-rama.com.

Team Obama needs to get to work!

At this poll, diplomacy is not working.

Posted by: RStone | September 13, 2008 9:50 AM

Does the mother talking to the disobedient child? Does the police officer issue warnings? Is there dialogue? Of course. If you don't talks and listen to your enemies, you may not learn enough to eliminate them or prevent other enemies from cropping up. We can't stick our head in the sand and with the approach of "let's just nuke 'em all." That would be the republican mantra. Why bother with diplomacy? I tell my children to confront their problems and their enemies alike. You show who is the boss by acting like the boss, not by hiding and refusing to address your problems.

Posted by: joer | September 13, 2008 9:41 AM

I bet McCain & Palin don't even know where Bolivia is! Most of you who have never seen first hand the Latin American reality can not have a grounded opinion! Sen. Obama knows first hand what the responsibilities of a world leader is: not just bombing every country that says NO to the USA! Get a grip, read a book about the U.S. policies in Latin America and in the world, then you'll find out what the reality is! We should praise ourselves for what we do right but also acknowledge when we are wrong and McLoser is blaming Obama for everything even global warming! Just give smart Americans a break!

Posted by: carmen63 | September 13, 2008 9:39 AM

Obama would "sit down to talk" with Ahmadinejad, a guy who wants to nuke Israel. Ahmadinejad is friends with Chavez and Evo Morales, both of whom just expulsed U.S. ambassadors for no reason. Is anyone posting here old enough to remember Jimmy Carter's Iran hostage crisis? That's what Carter got with policy of playing nice with petty tyrants. Remember this, if you are an American, Chavez says he hates you. It doesn't matter what your intentions are--he says you are an "imperialist." Obama wants to befriend this guy. QUESTION OBAMA. Don't give him a free pass because he has a record of non-committal (Look at his present votes) and is hiding his real intent.

Posted by: ttj | September 13, 2008 8:59 AM

Go get em McCain/Palin!

The change we need is LESS GOVERNMENT and more personal responsibility and accountability.

The change we need is TIGHTENED BORDERS.

The change we need is LOWER TAXES.

I am loving it. The people (except for socialist libs) love it!

You're kicking their a$$e$ guys...keep up the good work. I just donated to the cause!

Posted by: MakeUsProud | September 13, 2008 8:42 AM

Marist 09/05 - 09/08 805 RV 48 45 Obama +3
Fairleigh Dickinson 09/04 - 09/07 872 LV 47 41 Obama +6
Quinnipiac 08/04 - 08/10 1468 LV 51 41 Obama +10
Rasmussen 08/04 - 08/04 500 LV 52 42 Obama +10
Monmouth/Gannett 07/17 - 07/21 698 LV 50 36 Obama +14

************************

Look out below....there goes New Jersey!
14pt lead down to margin of error in 6wks.
Looks like Sarah's wowing them in Secaucus....and Seattle and Helena Montana and Raleigh NC, and...

Hey Democrats, how's that "Western Strategy" working out against the Senator from Arizona and The Governor of Alaska? Not so well, huh? I suppose to win you'll have to go after NC and Georgia again...oops.

Election 2008 Latest Polls
Friday, September 12
Race Poll Results Spread
Missouri Rasmussen McCain 51, Obama 46 McCain +5
Oklahoma Rasmussen McCain 63, Obama 32 McCain +31
Washington Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2

Ohio Univ. of Cinci McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4

Thursday, September 11
Race Poll Results Spread
Ohio InAdv/PollPosition McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1
Florida InAdv/PollPosition McCain 50, Obama 42 McCain +8
Michigan InAdv/PollPosition Obama 44, McCain 45 McCain +1

Colorado InAdv/PollPosition Obama 49, McCain 46 Obama +3
Georgia InAdv/PollPosition McCain 56, Obama 38 McCain +18
Nevada InAdv/PollPosition McCain 46, Obama 45 McCain +1
Wyoming Rasmussen McCain 58, Obama 39 McCain +19
Alaska Rasmussen McCain 64, Obama 33 McCain +31
Idaho Rasmussen McCain 68, Obama 29 McCain +39

North Carolina Research 2000 McCain 55, Obama 38 McCain +17
New Mexico Rasmussen Obama 47, McCain 49 McCain +2

Mississippi Research 2000 McCain 55, Obama 37 McCain +18
Ohio Strategic Vision (R) McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4
Michigan CNN/Time Obama 49, McCain 45 Obama +4
Virginia CNN/Time McCain 50, Obama 46 McCain +4
Colorado PPP (D) Obama 47, McCain 46 Obama +1
Missouri CNN/Time McCain 50, Obama 45 McCain +5

Georgia Strategic Vision (R) McCain 52, Obama 39 McCain +13


Pennsylvania Quinnipiac Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3

Florida Quinnipiac McCain 50, Obama 43 McCain +7


Alabama AEA/Capital Survey McCain 55, Obama 35 McCain +20
Wednesday, September 10
Race Poll Results Spread

Montana Rasmussen McCain 53, Obama 42 McCain +11
North Dakota Rasmussen McCain 55, Obama 41 McCain +14

North Carolina SurveyUSA McCain 58, Obama 38 McCain +20
Pennsylvania Strategic Vision (R) Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
West Virginia MBE McCain 44, Obama 39 McCain +5

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:29 AM

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

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Posted by: bp3exgp4om | September 13, 2008 4:09 AM


bebesvin

There is a real difference between compromising the principle of self-defense and entering into an agreement when dealing with an ideological enemy.

Bill Clinton, "the first black president," compromised America's security by allowing the Chinese, through various means, to acquire technology that enabled them to better target their nuclear ICBMs at American cities, in exchange for illegal campaign contributions

Promoting trade in consumer goods with China benifits America's self-interest. It provides a source of cheap manufactured products to stock Wal Mart shelves. At the same time it gives the Chinese a taste of capitalist profits, which is the silver bullet for destroying communism.

And the Olympics? Most likely the 14 year olds that took part in the pagantry considered it a high honor to be there rather than a violation of their rights. Obama's legislation imposing sex education on kindergarteners is a real example of how politicans violate individual rights - in this case the parents'.

In the final analysis you have no case, just a couple of non sequiturs.

Posted by: Buzz Lightyear | September 13, 2008 1:38 AM

"That's not change," Obama told a responsive audience. "That's just calling something -- the same thing -- something different. But you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig."

this was Obama's comment!!!!

the American public and the media is just a tool in the republican hands these days.
god bless America. America will need the blessing if Mccain gets elected.
we americans really need to see the truth, not half of it.

If Mccain by any chance is elected its is the American people who will suffer so i dont get y people r supporting mccain who can only deceive the public and approve ads that states only half the truth.
i don't think serving ones country loyally makes a person qualified to lead it, and it surely does not give the person the right to take the country in the wrong direction

Posted by: mccaincampaignisalyinganddeceivingpowerhouse | September 13, 2008 12:27 AM

Hemi is delusional. Wasn't Bush suppose to reintroduce the draft? I would say stop the scaremongering, but I really generally think you preach to the choir and are not going to convince open-minded folks.

Posted by: Rich | September 13, 2008 12:02 AM

"Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 9:49 PM

If Obama wins, Chavez will drop oil prices. Chavez hates Bush, not America. Venezuelans love America

"

Hohohohohoh! you made me laugh. Chavez oil production is declining every day and its participation in the oil price is very limited. Chavez "hates" Bush as he hated Clinton, and will hate the next US president. Chavez hates his own people and whoever is against him...Chavez just hates, does not know other thing...but don't worry, he is a great coward and all he does is just bark.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 12:01 AM

Practice what you Preach:

It is ironic that those voices on this blog that are so anti Bush, Mc Cain, US policies are also the voices that are absolutely critical of anyone with differing views. If you practiced what you preached, you would attempt to convince those with differing points of view why your point of view is held by you, through thoughtful, ACCURATE, HONEST, INTELLECTUAL debate. This may lead dissenters to change their point of view. Instead you simply wage a WAR of words against those that opose your view, which is exactly what you criticise Bush, McCain, US of. That is not the way to convince people to adopt your view or to bring about unity in the great nation of the USA.
You talk of diplomacy and peace yet ironically you are extremely militant and vicious in espousing your point of view.
As Mother Theresa famously said " do not invite me to an anti war rally, because i will not attend. If on the other hand you organise and invite me to a PRO Peace rally, you will see me there".
Just Food For Thought.

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Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008 11:11 PM

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McCain throws his BlackBerry (phone)
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Get the full Story on Bristol Palins Dude
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 11:02 PM

Chavez, like Bolivar and America's Whig Founders, rejects the Roman Anti-Christ and the Vatican-banker Rockefeller/Bush Big Oil crime syndicate that's been manipulating markets and subjugating peoples for over a hundred years.

9/11-committing Bush has already tried one coup in Venezuela to get the "slaves" back on "the plantation." McSame, raised by Roman Catholics and "married to the Mob," seeks to serve "the few," fascist plutocracy, and not "the many," the sovereign People of America. Palin, Hitler-in-drag, is a false prophet for Roman Catholic Big Oil just as Hitler was a false prophet from the papacy's ritual persecution they've been practicing since crucifixion was the only and unique punishment under codified Roman law for only one crime...the second conviction for sedition.

Read The Founders' wisdom and know the truth of history and American Exceptionalism. Reject Nazi-grandson Rove's "whitetrash" gambit.

Obama is but a small step in the right direction back to the American Dream.

http://www.theamericanfundament.blogspot.com

Posted by: Will Jones - Atlanta | September 12, 2008 10:54 PM

Any of this people actually lives in Venezuela??? It seems not :S
CHAVEZ = BUSH = Same stupid people, i cant believe he wants to continue destroying our country. And what happen with the real problems, health, the violence, the insecurity, what happen with Venezuelan real needs? it's so sad because venezuelan people are very peaceful and he doesnt speak for any of us...

Posted by: caro | September 12, 2008 10:54 PM

Who is obama? What is a community organizer? What are the responsibilities of a community organizer?

Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008 10:50 PM

Obama disrespected all women.

Posted by: jen | September 12, 2008 10:49 PM

Ministry of Truth and Peace: Please correct the history surrounding Palin and her intention to "sit-down" and "talk" to public enemy number one Emmanuel Goldstein. Or should we make Hugo Chaves the new enemy ?

Thanks Winston

Posted by: Constitionalist | September 12, 2008 8:35 PM

"Major combat operations in
Venezuela have ended.
In the battle of Venezuela, the US and our allies have prevailed."
Julia has spoken to Emmanuel Goldstein and he is continuing his work in seeking out the mysterious Karl. Palin is prepared to step into Goldstein's shoes at a moments notice--to help promote change.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:49 PM

So McSame was for diplomacy before he was against it?

If we are not at war with Venzuela, what's the big deal with talking to Chavez?

He is not a terrorist by any measure of the word, and we do not have an embargo in place, nor do the United Nations have an embargo in place.

Why is McSame making such hysterical comments?

It is because he knows his candidacy is nothing more than the continuation of the failed Dubya/dick misadministration, which is the worst ever?

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | September 12, 2008 10:44 PM

Bush=Cryptofascist Tyrant
McBush=Bush Clone
America, wake up. It's later than you think.

Posted by: McBush | September 12, 2008 10:40 PM

bebesvin,

No no no, it's Bill Clinton who wants to meet with Dayana Mendoza, but I think she's too classy for him!

As for McSame, he's a doddering, ignorant old fool trying to pass himself off as a "war hero," perhaps forgetting that Vietnam happened a long time ago and, like Iraq, was also an unjust war that most of our country rejected.

Dear Cubans writing here: please stop trying to insert Fidel Castro and your propaganda into this discussion. He has nothing to do with this and besides, who gives a poop?

Posted by: Macondo | September 12, 2008 10:39 PM

Let's see photos of NO-Bama burning the American flag - he has done everything else to insult this great nation and its citizens

Posted by: tucanofulano | September 12, 2008 10:34 PM

Whatever it is, it's going to be McCain/Palin in 2008. Then Hillary in 2012.

Posted by: Island | September 12, 2008 10:24 PM

I think this is a material for new anti-obama add. pattern of disrespectful rants agains globaly respected individual

Posted by: martha | September 12, 2008 10:24 PM

Obama is disrespectful as well.
He disrespected the American flag
He disrespected the National Anthem
He disrespected the Bill Clinton
He disrespected Hillary Clinton
He disrespected his white grandmother throwing under the bus.
Obama disrespected Liberman
Obama disrespected McCain

and now he disrespected Palin.

Obama has no class.

Posted by: linda | September 12, 2008 10:22 PM

Obama is pathetic. Obama's relatives in kenya are low class trying to robe old lady.

Obama is untrustworthy and hypocrat

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:19 PM

Breaking news : Obama's relatives are behind the obama's grandmother robbery drama.

Posted by: jim | September 12, 2008 10:17 PM

Old man McCain is truely becoming senile. How sad!

Posted by: Old Age | September 12, 2008 10:12 PM

More like this:

Chavez is a murderer.
Morales is a big fish in a little pond.
Bush is a puppet.
Obama is a scholar without practical knowledge.
McCain is trigger happy.
Biden rides Amtrak.
Palin is suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 10:09 PM

Posted by: Diogo

Expatrini, Rafael, McCain,

You guys need to learn before you speak. Chavez may have his problems, but he is not a dictator or a tyrant. He is a democratically elected president. Period.

- Period? what do you know? people like you without knowing anything about MY country speaking with such a property?

Furthermore, the inequalities in Venezuela were bigger before Chavez. In fact, he has ousted from power an aristocracy that pocketed all the money from the state-run oil company, and is applying the profits on social causes.

- So really? why don't you go there and check by yourself? did you were born in Venezuela? did you grow up there? I see the poverty problems just grow exponentially since Chavez is in Power, kids begin for some bread and people dying of hunger in the streets I Dont remember Venezuela like that in those times when I grow up with All those state-run oil company you mentioned,

Now, he certainly is not a liberal president, by no means. But he is not a dictator and he definetely has done good for the poor of that country.

- oH let me guess once again you, talking without being once in my country..

So, tone down the outdated and histeric rethoric and pay attention to the facts. A little bit more studying and learning and more shutting-up would do good to you ignorant people.

- Ok I guess if a dummkopf says ignorant to other would no matter.

So tell me do you word for the Cuban G2?

Posted by: Rafael | September 12, 2008 9:58 PM

Chavez is an egomaniac.
Morales is paranoid.
Bush is tired.
Obama is an empty suit.
McCain is a man of wisdom.
Biden is the Senator from MBNA.
Palin is amazingly wonderful.

Posted by: TC | September 12, 2008 9:55 PM

To the person who wrote, "It's dangerously stupid to compromise with countries that don't respect individual rights. Those who favor appeasing the likes of Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, or Iraq before the war and Iran now, are pathetic, sniveling worms" - how many articles in your home are made from China? The US would be that sniveling worm you speak about. Unless you think parading 14 year old gymnists in the recent Olympics world theatre as respecting individual rights. I rest my case.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 9:53 PM

I am forever amazed at ignorant old Mr. McSame's willingness to perpetrate violence against people he knows nothing about. As for "tyrants," he is talking about democratically elected heads of state. Remember, this is the guy who told ABC that Iraq and Pakistan share a border and doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiia.

Posted by: Maria M. Smith | September 12, 2008 9:50 PM

Obama may want to meet with DAYANA MENDOZA? No, just kidding.. Obama is a quick study, but I agree, he needs to sharpen up because it is sadly obvious he doesn't have a basic understanding of the history of Latin America. He needs this in order to make decisions about today.. I know the history books omit the last 30 years, due to our poor state of public education, but for gods sake, there is Encarta, if not the BBCNews (good for a quick "recent" history lesson on dif countries). I am for Obama, and the issues he supports, for equal wages for women, for choice, against idea of teaching intelligent design or magic, for that matter, in the class rooms. I think in then end he will make better choices for our nation than McCain/Palin, whose views are from the middle ages, as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 9:49 PM

If Obama wins, Chavez will drop oil prices. Chavez hates Bush, not America. Venezuelans love America

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Posted by: Cooday | September 12, 2008 9:38 PM

It's dangerously stupid to compromise with countries that don't respect individual rights. Those who favor appeasing the likes of Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, or Iraq before the war and Iran now, are pathetic, sniveling worms who enjoy personal liberty only because they are lucky enough to live amoung eagles who have the courage and moral clarity to defend their freedom.

It's very fitting that Obama is viewed as a messiah by the left and connected with Jesus Christ as a community activist. One of Gibbons themes in the Declin and Fall of the Roman Empire is that Christianity contributed tremendously to it. Turning the other cheek to the Barbarians was not only stupid but fatal to society as a whole.

And the left wants to repeat that mistake by putting an affirmitave action. community activist, who despises America's unique virtue of individualism, in charge of defending it. But thanks to McCain's surprising choice of Palin for VP, which has energized his campaign, it's starting to look like the pacifist worms on the left will be the eagles' parasites for four more years.

Posted by: Buzz Lightyear | September 12, 2008 9:31 PM

McCain thinks tough talk is all you need in dealing with other countries. Under his view, Nixon would never go to China, Reagan would never meet with Gorbachev, and Carter would never have gotten the Camp David Accords. I guess those presidents were naive.

Posted by: wesfromGA | September 12, 2008 9:19 PM

In July 2007, Obama was asked during the CNN-YouTube debate a specific question: "Would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?" Obama answered, "I would." In May, Obama amended his remarks to downplay the notion of meetings within the first year and making it clear an agenda would need to be set before any presidential summit: "The point is that I would not refuse to meet until they agree to every position that we want." he said. "But that doesn't mean that we would not have preparation, and the preparation would involve starting with low level -- lower-level diplomatic contacts.... But what I have said is that at some point I would be willing to meet." Now, that reminds me of President Bush and his presidential visits with foreign heads: an agenda needs to be set before any presidential summit through the preparation starting with low level -- lower-level diplomatic contacts until there is an agreement to every position that the USA wants. Now, that fellow Obama is a fast learner. I am sure he could be a quick study on the job, but why did he have to decide about the President of the USA. Could he not try a position of a manager of Starbucks first?

Posted by: Wiel | September 12, 2008 9:12 PM

Has the embargo been lifted in Cuba?? No! Forget about Fidel winning elections. Wire tapping, oh my GOD where have you been? The matter of fact is that the people in Cuba poor, hungry, and making the best of things don't worry too much about Fidel. As a matter fact why don't the Batista cubans living in Miami go to Cuba and claim there property they left behind when fleeing the communist Fidel. Lets see if those Black and poor Cubans are going to welcoming them with open arms. Please.

Posted by: Knowledge is Power | September 12, 2008 9:03 PM

"Think People
Those are some pretty tough words.
You sound like you are beating a the "WAR Drumbeat" of the last 8 years.
Why don't you love your country and talk as tough about it as you do your self. Try to forget what your college professors taught you and think for youself. I have been in you shoes and had to go through the same thing. If you need someone to talk to to help cope with your mis-guided views and blame our contry first mentality you can call me and I will be you support person"

_________________________

Thanks, but no thanks. I love my country too much to allow misguided and dishonest leaders continue to run it into the ground. It is time we stand up and take our government back from a right wing extremist faction that has repetitively lied to us and the rest of the world, and engaged in cronyism of the worst kind. It is time for a return of honesty, reason, humility, decency, and respect. These are the values that I believe in and these are the values that I expect from my leaders. It is time we learn to value everyone, and not just a privileged few. It is time we learn what is worth fighting for, and what is not. I would fight to the death to defend this country, but I will not support a party that is simply offensive.

Posted by: Think People | September 12, 2008 8:59 PM

Years ago, Fidel Castro called TONTOS UTILES (USABLE FOOLS) all those he cosidered were friends of the United States of America. Fidel Castro killed many new emerging politicians he considered were usable fools. AMong the victims Camilo Cienfuegos and Che Guevara. Now Castro has a new crop of usable fools, to include Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales, and some pseudo intelectuals of latin contries.
In the case of Hugo Chavez Castro realizes the venezuelan is just a lucky fellow, very dumb,that is willing to follow Castro's orders unconditionally. Castgro, and Chavez know that the venezuelan democracy was in deep state of corruption, ochestrated a coup d'etat associated with Rafael Caldera, and emerged as a new president of an oil-rich country: Venezuela. Over the years the venezuelan administgration has shown hostility against the USA. Hostility against the hand that feeds the animal. The only animal that bites the feding hand is the human animal: in this case the beast called Hugo Chavez. That is fine. Leave that jerk alone. He, sooner or later will come down. But, no american should develop any type of friendship towards Chavez, He is our enemy. Mr. Barrack Obama recognize this, and stay away from our enemies, or considered stepping down from your presidential aspirations. Impeach yourself. The Supreme Court should be vigilant on what you are doing. And Americans, if Obama makes it to the end of these 53 remaining days before our elections, please do not vote for the enemy of our beloved country.

Alberto Gamez, MD

Posted by: Alberto Gamez MD | September 12, 2008 8:52 PM

Did you know that mortal enemies Uribe (Colombian President) and Chavez ("elected" President of Benezuela) just recently got together this summer, and are now "best of friends"? Well, of course they are kidding, but they who are enemies, are even willing to get together in a room to discuss matters. Why the heck would Obama not want to do this as well, in an act of peace? Diplomacy should always be the avenue to first take to avoid bloodshed.. by the way, what is the dead count on US soldiers???? Iraqi civilians??? We do not want a war in our backyard; I think it's totally appropriate for Obama to want to ease tensions between Colombia and Venezuela....

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 8:48 PM

"Good thing you talk about Cuba, where Fidel won many elections...winning elections don't make you a democrat, specially when you control all the powers and make disappears whoever is againts your ideas"

Hmm, sounds like the 2000 election + pre-emptive strikes+illegal wiretapping+rendition...wait, are we talking about Cuba? :)

Posted by: Wolf | September 12, 2008 8:48 PM

McCain is hilarious. In July 2007 Obama says he would be willing to meet with leaders of the world, over a year later our relations deteriorate and he takes him to task for ... something he said 14 months ago? Has McCain totally lost it?

It is rumored that N. Korea's Kim Jong-il has died. I suppose if true and Obama will no longer meet him it will be a flip-flop

Posted by: Rick | September 12, 2008 8:47 PM

"Posted by: Constitionalist | September 12, 2008 8:35 PM

I am not a fan of Chavez or Morales but they were elected. If we just talk to leaders that like the US, it would be a very lonely world now thanks to Bush's policies.

Look what stonewalling Cuba has gotten us - nothing
"

Good thing you talk about Cuba, where Fidel won many elections...winning elections don't make you a democrat, specially when you control all the powers and make disappears whoever is againts your ideas.

Chavez=dictator

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:42 PM

Let me see, anyone we don't like, we avoid and we bomb them. Oh Oh. World War III coming. Very soon. The draft is coming, mind the kids. Its time to serve your great country. Now we know why its Country First!

It is ridiculous to assert that it would be inappropriate to speak to Chavez. Just as stupid as to say we should not speak to Putin now because of Georgia. McCain is an idiot. So is his campaign.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 12, 2008 8:39 PM

"you really don't know what is going on in Venezuela and Bolivia...the only person you failed a coup in Venezuela is Mr Chavez"

Rubish. Don't give me this fake rethoric. He was elected by his people in democratic elections. Furthermore, he called a referendum on constitutional reforms that would expand his powers (different than in America, where the president expanded the executive powers without consulting the people). He lost his referendum, and respected the people's will. Now, that's a democracy - not like the US in the last 8 years.

Lear before you speak.

"


Yeah, right! he respected the people's wiill and passed 26 laws that summariez what voted againts by Venezuelans...by the way, today, venezuelans do not what was the final result in such referedum as the electoral power has published them (why?, because he lost by millions of votes and couldn't legalized the fraud...as he did in 2002 thanks to Mr Carter)

Chavez like Fidel are only there for power and not for the people...that why he suppoort the guerilla and the comunism.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:38 PM

Ministry of Truth and Peace: Please correct the history surrounding Palin and her intention to "sit-down" and "talk" to public enemy number one Emmanuel Goldstein. Or should we make Hugo Chaves the new enemy ?

Thanks Winston

Posted by: Constitionalist | September 12, 2008 8:35 PM

I am not a fan of Chavez or Morales but they were elected. If we just talk to leaders that like the US, it would be a very lonely world now thanks to Bush's policies.

Look what stonewalling Cuba has gotten us - nothing.

Posted by: Matt | September 12, 2008 8:34 PM

Palins alledged affair http://www.veeppeek.com

McCain throws his BlackBerry http://www.mccanes.com

The Bush/Cheney/Palin DUI records
http://www.duihelpguide.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:33 PM

C'mon people. Lets look at the last 20 years. If we are to have any hope for the future, then Obama is our man for president. Forget about Chavez, Osama, or any of the considered rogue states. Our government has been involved in making hell to other cultures and countries even before the so called American Revolution. We must be really blind and dumb to think that we are better than anyone else. Democracy and Freedom, be for real!! We live under a sick sick government and we are real real dumb. The way they want us. So keep watching Fox news idiots.

Posted by: Knowledge is Power | September 12, 2008 8:33 PM

South America hasn't had an official war since... Simon Bolivar saved the entire continent from the Spaniards??? A South American war would be monumentally disastrous, esp with the Americans as official allies!!! I think Obama sees an opportunity to ease the tension that exists within Chavez's camp, a tension created by many factors - the US and Colombia. The background history shows that a war might happen, but not between the US and Venezuela, but between Colombia and Venezuela. Why? The fasts and latest news speak volumes. Per The Economist, it has mentioned Chavez increased from just millions, to billions in the last years, in his military. What is Chavez so afraid of? He didn't build up his military so much when he t'd off the Americans when taking over the oil fields and stopping exporting to the US. Tensions are esp high right now due to Colombia's constant pressure to reduce terrorists from their jungles in the Amazon that share borders with both Ecuador and Venezuela, and the tension increased dramatically this year when new evidence to pointed directly to Chavez as a $300 million sponsor of those terrorists. So why does Colombia need to fight the terrorists right now? Because the American businesses will not work in Colombia due to the high risk nature of working among terrorists. Colombia wants to become a world player, invite internatonal business, but Venezuela is making it hard for Colombia. Venezuela would probably have invaded Colombia already if it Venezuela weren't receiving 75% of it's food from Colombia. That is how the cold war ended, a drought stricken Russia received tons of food from the US.... Obama could help stop this war, and as a bonus, get some oil??? I am just dreaming of a better world... but so is Uribe.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 8:32 PM

By the way Wolf, I agree with what you are saying. I was not implying that America should get into other country's business. If you read my comments, I was only talking about Chavez and that people don't see him as he is. Most of the news coming from Venezuela don't reach the US but he is being after the US for the longest time. I don't think that he is a threat to the US but to the rest of Latin America.

Posted by: Expattrini | September 12, 2008 8:32 PM

Watch what happens when McCain wins and hits us with a draft. You'll have people protesting across the whole country. Nobody's gonna fight for these neo-cons in Washington. Everyone knows this is a power grab. If Bush wasn't paying private contractors our military would be in big trouble.

Posted by: Hemi | September 12, 2008 8:32 PM

Since when should we SEEK world approval. The world hates us every counrty has a problem with us...,....Until the WOLF is barking at their door and then they want us to help them.

Wasn't SADDAM "ellected" too!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:32 PM

"Such a course of action would undermine our democratic allies and embolden anti-American dictators."
The USA Government supported for a long time pro-American dictatorships in Brazil and in several other countries of Latin America.
The USA Government instead of giving beautiful speeches telling that they are fighting against dictators should be giving realistic speeches telling to the whole world what is being really fought, the anti-Americanism.
The USA Government must never more declare that is fighting to assure the respect for the human rights, because here in Latin America we just can remember the violation of them, in deep ways, to assure economical stability at USA.
No more interventionism!

Posted by: fernandoventura_ | September 12, 2008 8:32 PM

Since when should we SEEK world approval. The world hates us every counrty has a problem with us...,....Until the WOLF is barking at their door and then they want us to help them.

Wasn't SADDAM "ellected" too!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:32 PM

At this point, if we keep trying to "fix it", we're only making it worse. maybe we should mind our own business and let some other countries make their own decisions... EVEN IF they want to be slightly or even totally socialist. We seem to think we need an economic stranglehold on the whole world.

Posted by: sara | September 12, 2008 8:28 PM

That thoughtful, intelligent, vigorous Obama is getting to me. He even would give tax breaks to the lower 80% of income levels, instead of the rich. He prefers working with the rest of the world rather than attacking them.I hate that work together thing. McCain graduated at the bottom of his class and is clearly far smarter than Obama who was only editor of the Harvard Law Review. They only bestow that honor on those who are at the bottom of their class, don't they? Or is it those who shine that get that job... naw, that can't be.

These remarks courtesy of the Ministry of Truth and Peace.

Posted by: Biff | September 12, 2008 8:28 PM

Its just another Old McLame ploy to smear and dodge the real issues that Americans want to address, like our economy, the huge deficit his party has given the taxpayers, Interior Department scandals, the weakening of the dollar, Vets without benefits, elderly so broke that they eat pet food to survive, American taxpayer jobs taken away and given to other countries, etc. This country is so broke, it can't even pay attention to it's own needs.
McLame's slime is getting old and odoriferous.

Posted by: wtpdosa | September 12, 2008 8:28 PM

NEWS FLASH Obama/Biden
Democratic team breaks foreign experience sound barrier ....
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Posted by: Ruth | September 12, 2008 8:27 PM

People - before we blow this discussion into a US vs. South America issue. Does it not make sense, that given the various complexities/sensitivities in today's foreign relations scene - that it actually MAKES SENSE to have discussions instead of adopting a bully attitude and rattling your sabres?

Posted by: Wolf | September 12, 2008 8:27 PM

Think People
Those are some pretty tough words.
You sound like you are beating a the "WAR Drumbeat" of the last 8 years.
Why don't you love your country and talk as tough about it as you do your self. Try to forget what your college professors taught you and think for youself. I have been in you shoes and had to go through the same thing. If you need someone to talk to to help cope with your mis-guided views and blame our contry first mentality you can call me and I will be you support person

Posted by: Chris | September 12, 2008 8:27 PM

So one more time I ask

Why should I care and more importantly why should the US feel it is our responsibility to fix south America ?

I answer my own rhetorical question:

Because Exxon, BP, Chevron are pissed that Chavez kicked them out and they want revenge.

Posted by: Constitionalist | September 12, 2008 8:24 PM

Wolf, your last comment about 'what America has been dishing out.... coming back home' reminds me of a certain pastor. Rev. Jerimiah Wright said that "America's chickens were coming home to roost". Painful, but the TRUTH. I love this country, but dislike the past leaders' philosophies.

Posted by: Jay | September 12, 2008 8:24 PM

Constitionalist
I am not American. I am not Venezuelan. I am not Republican nor Democrat. I can care less if Chavez bombs the US or if the US go to war with Venezuela. I don't care if McCain is elected president or if Obama is. My only point is that I read people here writing about Chavez as if he was the next Che Guevara in a romantic way and don't realize that he is not.

Posted by: Expattrini | September 12, 2008 8:23 PM

WAIT, Obama is willing to MEET with people?! He's going to talk to them and not just send in troops and bomb their homes?! BLASPHEMY!

..........but really though. Why is it controversial that a President would want to talk to other foreign leaders, even ones we don't totally agree with economically? (Don't forget your South American history of the last 100 years, guys! "The US" has really screwed them over!)

Posted by: sara | September 12, 2008 8:22 PM

Expatrini,

I'm a Latin American too. And I know for a fact that you don't know what you are talking about. Sure, Venezuela could be in a better place - but the people were in worst situation before him, where all the oil profits were pocketed by few.

Why do I suspect that your family had ties to Petroleos de Venezuela before Chavez??

Posted by: Diogo | September 12, 2008 8:22 PM

Expattrini - let's agree that both of us have seen a side of life none of the candidates here have seen. The fact of the matter is that most of the decisions which have been made has been about Oil - the way i see it, I would put both Bush and Chavez on the same moral low ground given their individual records. My observation is simply that what the US has been dishing out is beginning to come home and I fear that the country I love cannot even elect one person who understand this and can do something about it.

Posted by: Wolf | September 12, 2008 8:21 PM

"Think People....
Thank Americas Sons and Daughter with M-16 for the right to be a person afraid to stand up for your country, THEY will do it for you.
8 years prior to the last 8 years was filled with policies that allowed other countries and terrorist to believe that we (AMERICA) are filled with weak mis-guided people (proven by your and others statements.)"

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You remind me of the drunk guy walking down the street saying "what the F are you looking at" to everyone walking by. That is quickly becoming the mentality of McCain, Bush, and the NeoCons. You could call it "standing up for yourself." You could also call it conducting yourself like a jackass on the world stage.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:19 PM

Expatri
So your saying that the positioning of a bomber by russia in Venezuala is a threat to the U.S. - that is the dumbest thing I have read on here today - lets follow this through:

Chavez loses his mind and drops a bomb on Arizona because he hates McCain so much, the U.S. levels Venezuela from the air and then turns our sites on Moscow.

No your ridiculous fear argument falls down and is the obvious ploy of the GOP and anyone trying to control a situation - Oh be afraid of the bogey man Chavez - he has a big stick - what a load of neo-con war mongering rubbish

Posted by: Constitionalist | September 12, 2008 8:17 PM

Anyone that thinks Chavez is a legitimate leader is a supporter and admirer of Adolf Hitler and Reichian philosophy. I you adore fascistic regimes. The anwer is simple, leave America and move to Venezuela.

FARC's strength is derived from its protection of an illicit narcotics trade that channels cocaine to North American communities. But the recent hostage rescue has also drawn attention to the real role played by Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez in using the FARC in an effort to destabilize the government of Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe, his regional archrival.

Chavez is EVIL Personified.

Posted by: Don't Tread on Me | September 12, 2008 8:16 PM

Wolf, by the way. I am not American. I am Latin American and I know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't need to be part of the peace corps because I have lived the life of those countries. I know what you mean about how Americans are seen in the rest of the world. All I'm saying that Chavez is not what people think because most of the people writing in this forum do not follow the day to day issues coming from Venezuela.

Posted by: Expattrini | September 12, 2008 8:16 PM

It is thinking like McCain's that has made America the country despised all over the world. If the way you handle relationships with other countries is not working, try something different. Sitting down with world leaders we dislike is not a "crazy idea". If I had a spat with my neighbor, the sure fire way to increase tensions is to cut off talking with them, but Bush/McCain foreign policy was never much for logic.

Posted by: Mike McClenny | September 12, 2008 8:16 PM

If John McCain had real intentions of cleaning up Washington, he would have started at home and carried out the "honorable" campaign he promised. What good is a country free of earmarks, if it is laid waste first by cultural warfare? If John McCain manages to win the presidency, it will be a pyrrhic victory. Intellectually honest people of all affiliations will never trust his word. He will be forever resented for perpetuating Rovian politics under the Orwellian banners of "Country First" and "Straight Talk". He once sounded so indignant when he complained that Rove and Bush "know no depths." No, John McCain, you know no depths!
1.

Posted by: Honor=Obama | September 12, 2008 8:14 PM

Russia has long-range bombers in Venezuela, warships, subs??? Hmm... sounds like some of what WE have throughout Europe. Equality/Karma sucks, doesn't it. A strong opponent tends to cause us to think about diplomatic means instead of imperialism.

Posted by: Jay | September 12, 2008 8:13 PM

I can not believe what I'm reading in the comments below. Chavez is a populist, ignorant leader. How in this world someone gives away billions of dollars buying other countries leaders consciences in Latin America while his own people, the ones that he says he is fighting for, are starving. Americans, be warned!!!. He is very dangerous!!!

Posted by: Expattrini | September 12, 2008 7:43 PM

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Now this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What the hell do you think the U.S. does. Who do you think built Israel's military so we can gain power in the Middle East. The same thing goes for Georgia, and a boat-load of others. Instead of figuring out our energy problems on our own, we'll fix it by force. Cheep energy won't fill the pockets of some fat cigar smoking jerk-off. We'll roll it all up and call it fighting for Democracy. Better known as, Democracy at gun point.

Posted by: Hemi | September 12, 2008 8:13 PM

Expatrini, Rafael, McCain

Obviously you are part of the Venezuelan exile party working in washington as lobbyist to convince the McCain camp to gpo to war woth Chavez to recover your lost power - just like the Iraqi exiles and the Israelis and every other 2 bit country that wants the us to restore them to power.

Posted by: truth revealed | September 12, 2008 8:12 PM

Think People....
Thank Americas Sons and Daughter with M-16 for the right to be a person afraid to stand up for your country, THEY will do it for you.
8 years prior to the last 8 years was filled with policies that allowed other countries and terrorist to believe that we (AMERICA) are filled with weak mis-guided people (proven by your and others statements.)

Posted by: Chris | September 12, 2008 8:12 PM

"Obama makes me nervous. Change makes me nervous. Would he show resolve if need be, or would hejust go have a chat and what have you?"

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If NEED BE, Obama would not hesitate to defend our nation. But with Obama, NEED BE will actually mean something, instead of just being an obstacle to a goal.

Posted by: Think People | September 12, 2008 8:11 PM

More bluff and bluster from Bush .. err McCain.. Sure talk only to our friends -- that isolationism has really worked well since 2000.

Posted by: Earl | September 12, 2008 8:11 PM

"you really don't know what is going on in Venezuela and Bolivia...the only person you failed a coup in Venezuela is Mr Chavez"

Rubish. Don't give me this fake rethoric. He was elected by his people in democratic elections. Furthermore, he called a referendum on constitutional reforms that would expand his powers (different than in America, where the president expanded the executive powers without consulting the people). He lost his referendum, and respected the people's will. Now, that's a democracy - not like the US in the last 8 years.

Lear before you speak.

Posted by: Diogo | September 12, 2008 8:10 PM

Obama makes me nervous. Change makes me nervous. Would he show resolve if need be, or would hejust go have a chat and what have you?

Posted by: A | September 12, 2008 8:10 PM

Constitionalist, you should care because if you read the news you should know that Russia sent two long-range bombers to Venezuela Wednesday and will send warships and soldiers for joint exercises in November.

Posted by: Expattrini | September 12, 2008 8:08 PM

Obama is obviously for the oil, but he could be good for Venezuelans too, even though that is another story.. Why is he for the oil? America does business with tyranical nations, ie China to start. China is so oppresive, you can't even search for the word "democracy". Chavez just started reviewing chatter via IP address to identify enemies of the state, in order to fire them from any govt jobs. So neither country has freedom of speech. That doesn't deter the US from going into business for oil. But it would be a mistake to count on Venezuelan oil, as to give then take it away would cause a sudden economic depression as experienced this year. Would Chavez love this opportunity - of course. Therefore, Obama, if you are after Chavez's oil.. you may get it, to everyone's dismay. Of course, Obama may just be trying to befriend Chavez and "his people"??? Have you noticed how closely the black power and Che symbolic posters are similar? It's all about power to the people... Obama may be able to lead the Venezualans out of communism?

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 8:08 PM

"They may not like Chavez and Morales - but they are democratically elected presidents - there's no questioning that fact. Besides, if anything, it was the Bush administration who tried to install a Latin-American dictator to power in Venezuela when they supported that failed coup in 2002...

What a hypocrite this McCain is...

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...you really don't know what is going on in Venezuela and Bolivia...the only person you failed a coup in Venezuela is Mr Chavez (Fidel Castro's pupet)...and stay in power only because all the oil money that he uses to control all electoral power, politicians and even american ex-president like Mr Carter...Chavez is a dictator and Venezuela has no democracy since 2002

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 8:07 PM

"To all the any one but bush "Mental Giants".....When did McCain say we should go to war with HUGO?"

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Haven't you been paying attention over the past 8 years? The drum-beat of more war is starting. It begins with "they're evil" type rhetoric, then on to some supposed affront. A little manufactured evidence, and away our sons and daughters are sent, M-16's at the ready.

Posted by: Think People | September 12, 2008 8:05 PM

Expatrini, Rafael, McCain,

You guys need to learn before you speak. Chavez may have his problems, but he is not a dictator or a tyrant. He is a democratically elected president. Period.

Furthermore, the inequalities in Venezuela were bigger before Chavez. In fact, he has ousted from power an aristocracy that pocketed all the money from the state-run oil company, and is applying the profits on social causes.

Now, he certainly is not a liberal president, by no means. But he is not a dictator and he definetely has done good for the poor of that country.

So, tone down the outdated and histeric rethoric and pay attention to the facts. A little bit more studying and learning and more shutting-up would do good to you ignorant people.

Posted by: Diogo | September 12, 2008 8:05 PM

Expatrini - Read a book called "confessions of an economic hit man" - it will give you insights on why some parts of the world really hate us.

And for the record, I've been part of the peace corps as well as with countless humanitarian agencies including those that have served in Kosovo and Darfur.

Posted by: Wolf | September 12, 2008 8:04 PM

I am glad McCain said that, it shows how narrow minded would be as President.

I have a suggestion for all those people who want to bomb every country that disagrees with US, put your money where your mouth is. If you are so eager to kill folks you can pay for it and join up while you are at it.

I want my tax dollars to help Americans - that is patriotic.

Posted by: matt | September 12, 2008 8:04 PM

Avoid being entangled in the internal affairs of other countries. This is the best advice we ever received from our founding fathers.

So what if Chaves is a communist, so what if he is a dictator, why should I care? Let him starve his people and sell his oil to his neighbors - once again why should I care? Last time I checked I live in America not in Venezuela - I care more about the money we will waste trying to force democracy on them than I do about their communism. Stupid people being manipulated by the government and the press into believing that its our problem.

F**k Venezuela

Posted by: Constitionalist | September 12, 2008 8:04 PM

Coll...
God still Loves you!

Posted by: Chris | September 12, 2008 8:03 PM

Please God, don't let McCain get elected.

Posted by: Coll | September 12, 2008 8:01 PM

To all the any one but bush "Mental Giants".....When did McCain say we should go to war with HUGO?

Posted by: Chris | September 12, 2008 8:00 PM

I don't agree with John McCain's implication that any attention from the US government is a reward of some sort. Problems and conflict will not be solved and relations will not be normalized by just ignoring them. Sitting down with these political figures with which we have conflicts is in fact far more necessary in a practical sense than strengthening relations with those who are already our allies. I believe that instead of sending the ridiculous message that the US condones dictatorship, it will send the message that we are willing to resolve problems diplomatically and sensibly. I don't believe it is the duty of the United States to carry on some democracy-wielding crusade.

Posted by: lucia | September 12, 2008 7:58 PM

Wolf, if you believe that the US has the same amount of poor people that in Venezuela and that the billions of dollars that Chavez has wasted away supporting other countries communist/terrorist organizations are not better used to help his own people then it seems to me that you have never been in Venezuela and seen the poverty there. Venezuela could be far ahead than the rest of Latin America but all the money from the oil is being wasted away by Chavez.

Posted by: Expatrini | September 12, 2008 7:58 PM

NEWS FLASH Palin flys to Venezuela!
Sarah Palin graduates from McCain's foreign experience flight simulator ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es8Kqq74GsQ


Posted by: Ruth | September 12, 2008 7:57 PM

Tell that little dictator to shut up and sit the hell down...

Hugo is a punk.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan | September 12, 2008 7:57 PM

McCain is a lunatic. He'd rather start a war than have a discussion with anyone he disagrees with.
That means he'll want to go to war with most of the world.
And Palin is even dumber than McCain.
God help us if these two morons get into the White House.

Posted by: DWayne | September 12, 2008 7:57 PM

Maybe Chavez will one day accuse a lonely travelling English teacher of starting a revolution in the break-away state of the oil rich Venezuelan Maracaibo region... heh.. or Obama can negotiate with an OPEC tyrant.. I put my monay on Obama's diplomatic skills.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 7:56 PM

Posted by: SAGG

Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Venuezula...

Hm--that just doesn't sound right. "Iran" sounds MUCH better!

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How's your German skills SAGG?
it was because of you fellows Americans and their love of Liberty we are not all speaking german and shouting "HEIL Deutschland"

I never coment about Bombing Vzla. but just saying that YOU DONT NEGOCIATE WITH TYRANTS and if in danger aniquilate them not negociate.. so please keep eating pizza and lucking your plasma.

Posted by: Rafael | September 12, 2008 7:56 PM

Obama might be must fit as an ambassador and not yet qualified to be the President of the United States; he is always behind on getting the right decision and judgement.

Posted by: Nancy Luu
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As opposed to McCain, who's ahead of say, Bush? Believe it or not, I'd rather have Bush than McCain the warmonger right now, only because Bush has finally learned after almost eight years of foriegn policy silliness that go it alone policies don't work. McCain doesn't know that, and I suspect he won't as President--until after an accidential nuclear exchange with Russia, perhaps. Won't do us any good afterwards...

Posted by: SAGG | September 12, 2008 7:56 PM

I am sick and tired of NeoCons going around the world and picking fights with everyone. The Venezuelans elected their leader. The vast majority of them like their leader (more than can be said for Bush). Venezuela hasn't attacked us. They're not planning to attack us. They're not invading anyone. They give to people in need. Yet Bush/McCain is busy trying to overthrow its popular, democratically elected government. It's total insanity!

Posted by: Think People | September 12, 2008 7:56 PM

So stupid, so many claims on here that Chavez is a threat top the U.S. that is ridculous, he is impotent in the face of our military might - Im not afraid of him. Besides what has done to deserve our hatred? Been freely elected? Distributed oil monies to the populace? fed the starving and championed the poor - damn hes starting to sound like robin hood - but I guess thats what pisses off The Sherrif of Arizona.

Posted by: Patriot | September 12, 2008 7:55 PM

Wow - McCain is a relic from the past, really. Latin-American dictators?? What is he talking about? This is just McCain trying to insist that we still live in the Cold War era.

They may not like Chavez and Morales - but they are democratically elected presidents - there's no questioning that fact. Besides, if anything, it was the Bush administration who tried to install a Latin-American dictator to power in Venezuela when they supported that failed coup in 2002...

What a hypocrite this McCain is...

Posted by: Diogo | September 12, 2008 7:53 PM

"The Colombian government has turned into the Israel of Latin America. Colombia is a terrorist state that is subject to the great terrorist, the government of the United States and their apparatus."

"I have said it already, I am convinced that the way to build a new and better world is not capitalism. Capitalism leads us straight to hell."

Hugo Chavez quotes

Posted by: Calmplex | September 12, 2008 7:52 PM

Americans are idiots.

Posted by: grant | September 12, 2008 7:52 PM

I can not believe what I'm reading in the comments below. Chavez is a populist, ignorant leader. How in this world someone gives away billions of dollars buying other countries leaders consciences in Latin America while his own people, the ones that he says he is fighting for, are starving. Americans, be warned!!!. He is very dangerous!!!

Posted by: Expattrini
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The way I see it, is this: If he doesn't attack us, save to thumb his finger at us on occasion, then it's no big deal to me. He's a Castro wannabe. If you want to support opposition in his country, fine. But to literally go down there and fight because he doesn't agree with us is idiotic. Besides, we should've learned something about sticking our big nose in other country's affairs from Vietnam, and Iraq. We should work in a regional way with other countries. War should be an absolute last resort.

Posted by: SAGG | September 12, 2008 7:51 PM

To all of the McBush people- experience is like a 'credit report'. Its what's in it that matters. In McBush' experience, he barely graduated the USNA, cheated on his wife (for years), lied to the new one, has fetish for beauty queens, verbally abused her and others, cursed and threatened people in public (I would have kicked his @ss), then fully supports the illegal Iraq invasion/occupation (and there's no WMD), and can't even email. Some experience... We need a smart president that has diplomacy. The DOD (military) has all answers to the 3am phone call people. Wise up everyone. Wise up.

Posted by: Jay | September 12, 2008 7:50 PM

Expattrini - i'm sure you realize that the comments you just made applies exactly to the image of the US in the eyes of the world. After all we do consume 25% of the world's resources - assuming you know that, that is.

Posted by: Wolf | September 12, 2008 7:48 PM

Evo Morales in Bolivia is probably right, the CIA and DoD have overthrown multiple democratically elected governments in the southern hemisphere. It is dirty tricks as usual for America when a leader of another country stands up to our demands. Keep a close eye and you will see the language shift to one of "Regime Change" the existential threat of Communism and a host of other stupid tactics to vilify anyone who doesnt do what they are told.

McCain is a war hero - so what! The GOP wants to take us back to the days on McCarthy where the government could do anything they wanted and get away with it.

Posted by: American with a memory | September 12, 2008 7:48 PM

Obama might be must fit as an ambassador and not yet qualified to be the President of the United States; he is always behind on getting the right decision and judgement.

Posted by: Nancy Luu | September 12, 2008 7:48 PM

Dummycrats are soooo weak, we need Regan like president again.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:47 PM

please God , do not let Obama win this election.

Posted by: T | September 12, 2008 7:46 PM

It's so unfortunate that George Bush's disastrous foreign policies are in fact affecting THIS election. Obama was trying to make up for the disaster that George Bush has been the last 8 years, by making these statements. It's necessary to repair our standing in the world. Clearly it is the neoconservatives who are idealistic and naive, not Obama. It's really something else that the Republicans are able to continue to tout their supposed foreign policy experience, when 4,152 men and women of ours have died without need. I just wish people would think about that. What will it take for Americans to see that Democrats are better on foreign policy, due to their restraint and wisdom? Will it take a *nuclear* war, that Palin starts out of cluelessness?

Posted by: Alan Glanz | September 12, 2008 7:46 PM

Apparently Mr.McCain has never heard the phrase "SPEAK softly and carry a big stick". He'd much rather take the stick approach first. That's a smart strategy - given the way our military is stretched now, let's just plan on fighting another long and bloody war.

Posted by: Wolf | September 12, 2008 7:46 PM

there are only few words in Mccain's Vocabulary: 1. War 2. fear 3. more war 4.be alert 5. be scared. Can't you see that presidents tagged as dictators..and enemies of America..hate America because of how America always interferes with the policies of other countries? isn't that bullying? how about DIPLOMACY! DIPLOMACY! bush and mccain should add this to his vocabulary.

Posted by: Misha | September 12, 2008 7:45 PM

Obama may seek to captivate the Venezuelan poor by the American culture in order to convince them Chavez is a tyrant... or.... could it be? Obama may be interested in getting oil from Venezuela!!! Is Obama an oil man? By using the charisma of the rockstar type of American culture to soften the icy relationship, yes he may want to befriend Chavez. This makes sense as Venezuela is part of OPEC and has lots of oil in Maracaibo, the main place for a bunch of oil, oil cheap as bananas. And it really t'd off Bush when Chavez nationalized the petrol companies and sent the oil cheaply to his neighbors and cut off the supplies to the US. I think it may upset Bush to think that Obama could restore "oil" relations. And this could well happen, considering we import stuff from China, and China is fully communist.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 7:44 PM

This is nonsense..
How would it sound Marshall having a tea and cookies conversation with Hitler, wake up people you don't talk to tyrants you annihilate them or they annihilate you, sad human history.

Posted by: Rafael

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I love that word Tyrant. It's the perfect word to describe George Bush. So tell me, what makes Chavez a Tyrant. Is it because he don't march to the tune of the Bush agenda. I mean the Hitler agenda. Or maybe it's that he wants to keep his oil, and the profits that go with it, for himself.

Posted by: Hemi | September 12, 2008 7:44 PM

I can not believe what I'm reading in the comments below. Chavez is a populist, ignorant leader. How in this world someone gives away billions of dollars buying other countries leaders consciences in Latin America while his own people, the ones that he says he is fighting for, are starving. Americans, be warned!!!. He is very dangerous!!!

Posted by: Expattrini | September 12, 2008 7:43 PM

This is nonsense..
How would it sound Marshall having a tea and cookies conversation with Hitler, wake up people you don't talk to tyrants you annihilate them or they annihilate you, sad human history.

Posted by: Rafael |
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Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Venuezula...

Hm--that just doesn't sound right. "Iran" sounds MUCH better!

Posted by: SAGG | September 12, 2008 7:42 PM

As I sit here and read what many so called "Americans" write. I am thankful that the rest of us Americans, who believe in our country and know that we are the "BEST" counrty in world, are going to use our ballots to ellect the only candidate in this election that nearly paid the ultimate price to give those so called "Americans" the right voice their mis-guided opinions. Thank you to our military and thank you to the leaders (i.e. BUSH) that don't care about recieving the approval of third world countries and MORALLY BANKRUPT Europe.

Posted by: Chris | September 12, 2008 7:42 PM

If McCain has his way, all of the significant oil-producing countries in the world will be our enemies and we will go to war with them. And this is smart and tough because...?

Posted by: Mary | September 12, 2008 7:41 PM

Don't we all know that there was always dialogue with Venzuela? Tyrany is always a tyrany, talking with Barrack is just a waste of time.

Posted by: Sara Chen | September 12, 2008 7:41 PM

Mccain will be hard to beat. God fearing people like to be lied to,it's their comfort zone.

Posted by: Wayno | September 12, 2008 7:40 PM

YES WE KNOW YOUR INDEX FINGER IS CLOSER TO THE TRIGER!!!!

Posted by: JOJO | September 12, 2008 7:39 PM

No there is no misunderstanding.Obama is liberal and this is the bottom line


McCain 08

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:38 PM

Last I checked, the people McCain labels "tyrants" are in fact democratically elected representatives. Is McCain saying he would not meet with the democratically elected representatives of our near neighbors?

More irresponsible behavior from the republican side. How can he way that with a straight face? Is he joking or is he a moron?

Posted by: BenS | September 12, 2008 7:38 PM

The U.S. President must stand firm and never negotiate with tyrants such as Chavez. God help us if Obama is elected.

Posted by: Susan
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Yeah, Obama's constant negoiating would probably bore the heck out of Chavez, who would in turn make peace just to get Obama off his back, while McCain's invasion would insure more war, which would be more exciting to Chavez and his people! God help us, indeed! Make war, not peace!! Yeah!! Woo-hoo!!

Posted by: SAGG | September 12, 2008 7:37 PM

This idea of John McCain trying to put Barack Obama down for wanting to discuss differences is further proof on my plate that he has a poor sense of judgement. I would feel more safe and secure within my country knowing my leader wants to first try to talk through issues before resorting to fights. John McCain, in my eyes, is a bully in the world's schoolyard - pushing until someone pushes back so he can feel justified swinging a punch. He's no role model for our country's youth. He would teach them to physically fight to get what they want instead of talking, reasoning, and learning the art of compromise. A vote for John McCain is a vote for violence - not just across our national borders but also across our backyard fences.

I believe in leading by example. I also believe Barack Obama has set a much better example in his MANY YEARS of experience working in both government and law. I trust a man with a doctorate in law is more experienced and fit to be a world leader than a man who was once a prisoner of war. One will attempt to reason with people before agreeing to disagree; the other, well, I think the other just wants to pick a fight with anyone willing to put 'em up.

Posted by: Carrie | September 12, 2008 7:37 PM

Obama has less experience than Palin and it is starting to show.

Posted by: Willard | September 12, 2008 7:36 PM

Why don't all of you go back through these comments and read the one from Rafael, a Venezuelan. Chavez is a dangerous idiot, just like you Dems. You love him so much?
Go live in his country! We'll be waiting to hear how GREAT things are!!!!!!!

Posted by: dave from ga | September 12, 2008 7:36 PM

John McCain, I disagree with you. I think Obama is right and you are wrong. I know that comes as a shock but believe or not, you are not right just because you say that you are right. Why would America continue the doctrine of unilateral isolation and refuse to sit down with our enemies and talk? That obviously does not work, considering the fact that we are currently doing that and Chavez just expelled our diplomat. Get over yourself. You are a hot headed, hyperbolic drama queen.

Posted by: David from Seattle | September 12, 2008 7:36 PM

I think folks are mis understanding Obama and what he is really saying. If we had talks I am sure Obama would go in with that winning smile, but with his hand on his gun, not with it on the trigger. Or in the current administration with all cylinders unloading. I was always thought that you talk your way out of a fight until you have no other choice. If you had a problem with a bully would you not try to talk to the person first? Oh wait, are you the bully in this case? I get it now . . . Rush on in. . . Git R Done!


Will Roberts

Posted by: Will Roberts - Modern Day Will Rogers | September 12, 2008 7:36 PM

Obama's so full of hyprocisy it's beyond belief...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:34 PM

Yes, McCain!!!!

Obama, does not have a clue in this matter!!!!! Send Sarah!!! and kick their ASS!!!!

Go Sarah and McCain!!!!

BTW, Obama and whats his name SUCKS!!!


Posted by: Dave Danenberg | September 12, 2008 7:34 PM

Venezuela does indeed have a right as a sovereign country to ask the ambassador of any country to go away. If the US can train and equip the Georgian military, what prevents Russia from giving military aid to any nationin our vicinity? And lest we dismiss as baloney,the accusations that the US is plotting to overthrow Hugo Chavez, let us remember that the US has interfered in the internal of every single country in Latin America.

Posted by: Alzach | September 12, 2008 7:34 PM

"Venezuela a tyrant? The last I heard, they were giving us discounted home heating oil when people were about to freeze in their homes. Chavez has a problem with Bush, not with the American People."

Thats the problem, you want everything to be giving to you. If you want welfare move to Venezuela.

Posted by: Phillip Balayan | September 12, 2008 7:13 PM

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HEY IDIOT PHILLIP.DURING STALIN ADM HAL OF THE THINGS AROUND WERE FOR FREE.CHAVEZ IS A COMMUNIST.DO SOME RESEARCH

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:33 PM

Well, yet ANOTHER article against Obama from the media that McCain claims is against him. McCain's so full of hyprocisy it's beyond belief...

Posted by: SAGG | September 12, 2008 7:32 PM

You mean the interview in which she had to admit that she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it? Or the one in which she embraced Obama's position on attacking Al Qaeda in Pakistan and contradicted McCain?

Posted by: Patrick | September 12, 2008 7:31 PM

What's the matter Mr.McCain? Mr.Chavez won't let you play in his Big Oil Backyard anymore, now you won't let him bring his drugs into the U.S. Is that why your looking to do trade deals with Columbia, even though they have terrorists running around all over the place. Maybe we should BOMB VZ. and take all their oil. That'll show em who's boss Ha.

Posted by: HemiHead | September 12, 2008 7:31 PM

Go McCain!!!!

I can see it now.

McCain invades Venezeula.

US defeated by banana republic, since our military is now so wrecked and depleted by the Bush-McCain fiasco in Iraq that the Venezuelan police could kick their asses.

Oil prices triple as the US does for the Venezuelan oil industry what it did for Iraq's -- put it in the tank for five years.

Go johnny go.

Posted by: mnjam | September 12, 2008 7:27 PM

Bush visited China, which is even more communist than Venezuela. Venezuela is at a turning point, it hasn't completely turned communist, and it's up to the people to revolt now before it's too late. Venezuelans need another champion besides the ("the people's") "charismatic" Chavez. It is no secret that Latin Americans admire American culture, and Obama is now a champion of the people as well. Therefore, an interest by Obama in Venezuelans will speak volumes, and may give the poor (99% of the pop) another option to change sides.. The oppressed really need a leader, as poverty takes everything from a group, including education and ability to decifer what is really going on. Obama I think has the chance to communicate to these people like no other American President can. Venezuelans don't know what communism is - they are slowly being fooled into it. They have had dictators and various democratic admins, but none fully communist (the nation is not completely yet communist, but almost there, with all the oil, cement and other big industries "bought" up cheaply by Chavez, and nazi-ish laws that have your neighbor as your potential enemy as "rat on your neighbor" policies have been enacted. However, amidst what we know to be the transparent progaganda to the poor as delivered cleverly by beautiful robin hood "Che" posters and symbols, the stealing and murdering is as at an altime high, which must mean Venezualans know Chavez is no good. They must be able to see Chavez is ugly no matter how pretty the poster boy is. Once Venezuelans realize that their house, their bank, their freedom of speech and their lives may be taken without trial, as per the new referendums, they will realize a communist nation is not the idealistic paradise as so advertised. Obama, as a speaker to the poor, could help give the people more confidence to fight this guy. Okay long speech over.

Posted by: bebesvin | September 12, 2008 7:27 PM

McCain you are so right please send Sarah Palin down there right now! This is your 3 am call! This is Sarah Palin's 3 am call! Palin needs the international experience. If she can parachute into Venezuela with 130,000 of her action figure dolls she will save a country. Why isn't Obama showing support for Bush's appointees anyway? This isn't about politics! Its time for you and Palin to go on meet the press and discuss this most urgent of World Affairs.

Posted by: Susie | September 12, 2008 7:26 PM

The U.S. President must stand firm and never negotiate with tyrants such as Chavez. God help us if Obama is elected.

Posted by: Susan | September 12, 2008 7:26 PM

Chavez has a 70% approval rating. Bush's is what, 30%? Chavez hasn't invaded anyone. Bush has. The poor are doing better under Chavez than they were before Chavez. Our poor are doing worse under Bush than they were doing before Bush. But the real issue driving Bush/McCain's feelings on Venezuela and now Russia is Oil. They've got it and we want it. Do you really think Bush/McCain's problems with Russia over Georgia have anything to do with the South Ossetians? Of course not. Russia intervened to stop Georgia from shelling the South Ossetian civilians. Bush/McCain still sided with Georgia because there is an oil pipeline going through South Ossetia. Do you really think Bush/McCain's problems with Venezuela are over anything but Oil? Of course not. Oil is driving our leaders into conflicts around the world. If we were to get off of foreign oil, we would be a much more peaceful nation.

Posted by: Think People | September 12, 2008 7:26 PM

This is nonsense..
How would it sound Marshall having a tea and cookies conversation with Hitler, wake up people you don't talk to tyrants you annihilate them or they annihilate you, sad human history.

Posted by: Rafael | September 12, 2008 7:23 PM

Chavez flat-out said he has no interest in working with and being civil to a BUSH-run Washington. In that regard you almost can't blame him. McCain will just continue the poor foreign ties with the same policies and we'll end up spreading our military so thin that we'll either need to reinstate the draft or leave our homeland security vulnerable. And of course spend ridiculous sums of money and continue burying our country in debt.

Posted by: G | September 12, 2008 7:19 PM

@ Phillip

Great one !

Posted by: rafeal | September 12, 2008 7:15 PM

"Venezuela a tyrant? The last I heard, they were giving us discounted home heating oil when people were about to freeze in their homes. Chavez has a problem with Bush, not with the American People."

Thats the problem, you want everything to be giving to you. If you want welfare move to Venezuela.

Posted by: Phillip Balayan | September 12, 2008 7:13 PM

I fully support the renewing of American diplomacy with all countries. Its not by chance that 85% of Europeans prefer Obama. I'm originally from the UK and moved here a few years ago; the UK did not support Bush as many think, they saw him as a rogue leader of a superpower and the only way to help guide that was to be on the side of Bush, this was stated by Tony Blair in the UK but not picked up by the USA media at the time because there was a huge jingoistic thing going on at the time.

McCain said last night that he would support sending our children to these countries to provide aid so that "they can teach them about American values". Actually they would also learn to understand the values of the host country in return. I'm tired of hearing this jingoistic trash talking about other countries. Why send just children, how about sending diplomats and leads to also converse and find common ground with these people. I've been to Venezuala, they are humans just the same as us, except they have a government that has leveraged the dislike of USA policies and one sided bullying.

I support sending our President to build friends rather than sending missiles. Why do the Republicans have to create these black and white "either for us or against us" practices?

Posted by: Mickt | September 12, 2008 7:12 PM

Senator McCain has lost it. He is without a compass guiding his behavior. This is just like his jump in- no thinking response- to Georgia.

Mrs. Palin will not provide any help moving the needle nor providing rational well thought out approaches in our foreign policy strategy and tactics. She is too dedicated to the "mission" and hard-wired like the elder statesman.

Posted by: lucy2008 | September 12, 2008 7:12 PM

It's easy to see that our policy toward Venezuela has bee flawed to say the least. An Obama meeting with Chavez could help
relations, While McCain's "same old' tactics are a proven disaster.
You can keep McCain's type of "change,"
I'll go with Obama on this one.

Posted by: Nick Obrenovich | September 12, 2008 7:11 PM

Yeah, because making tough-talking statements from a distance has been working so well....

Personally, I'd rather we sat down and talked than sending our children into a meat-grinder.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:10 PM

As a Venezuelan myself Steve I can assure you He is one of the most brutal and dangerous tyrant our times, what could it be worse than a president hating their own folk and letting them die of hunger while sending discounted oil to others? for the mere sack of gaining international sympathies, well that's the problem people talking to much without knowing, your country might not be perfect but it sure is a Great Country with deep democrat prinziples, so please avoid confusing the other readers of this board comparing Chavez with mother Teresa.

Posted by: Rafael | September 12, 2008 7:09 PM

Chavez is now McCain's target!Now that he has vanquished Putin and followed Bin-Laden to the gates of hell he is ready to take over from the Superman!He distorts what Obama meant in meeting with leaders of countries who are opposed to us.McCain or the neocons ,have they ever pause to think that when they call countries our enemies they are totally sidelining the people of those countries who like average American is looking to work hard and raise a their families.Confrontation with these leaders as it did in Iraq will only escalate their suffering whiel the leaders with all their money and power will continue unaffected.In these times there is no excuse for not talking to any leader.Threatening and fighting to settle issues is barbaric.Obama knows he is different from Hugo Chavez.But I wonder if Mccain is any different from the man he is detesting and threatening to go to war with?

Posted by: Urojen | September 12, 2008 7:08 PM

Since when does talking with someone mean you drop the word "no" from your vocabulary. We need more diplomacy. If this keeps up we will be in yet another war.

Posted by: Eric | September 12, 2008 7:07 PM

Yeah Scott, the Palin Ball went foul though. Just like everything about the Earmark Queen.

Posted by: Fareed | September 12, 2008 7:06 PM

Sara Palin has no idea of what is going on; she completely dropped the ball when asked about The Bush Doctrine. She lied when she talked about earmarks as she has asked for more than anyone else in the US.


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Posted by: bob | September 12, 2008 7:05 PM

Another example of a pop quiz that Obama failed in his on the job training campaign.

Posted by: Mike Still | September 12, 2008 7:04 PM

I look it it this way. What's right for you, may not be right for me.

Some people may be able to talk their way through most issues.

Others may need to use a gun to deal with most issues.

It's a matter of having developed verbal and social skills, or learning to kill instead. People tend to treat others the way they have been treated. Think about it!

Posted by: cyberbian | September 12, 2008 7:03 PM

good one Scott.

Posted by: joe | September 12, 2008 7:02 PM

I see no problem with opening a dialogue with leaders such as Chavez. Nothing is going to be fixed with all the 'cowboy' antics of the 'good guys' against the 'bad guys'. Talking with them doesn't mean we will be granting concessions. There is little chance of thawing our relations without someone making the first move. Let us be the 'bigger man' here and take some steps.

Posted by: Sean | September 12, 2008 7:01 PM

Not talking to Chavez hasn't worked, but McCain wants to continue the Bush policy of refusing to talk to any hostile government under the illusion that those countries are so desperate to talk to us they will change their hostile policies just to gain the privilege of talking to a high American official. Has this worked for the last 50 years with Castro? What makes Bush/McCain think it will work with Chavez? This is just another example of McCain wanting to continue the Bush administration policy. McCain equals no change.

Posted by: bgjd1979 | September 12, 2008 6:56 PM

As if MSM coverage of "Georgia" did not give McCain's campaign enough of a a bump we might see other attempts to provoke nationalist, militarist sentiments in the US electorate. Is Bolivia the new "hot" one, with its ally Venezuela prequalified as the scapregoat? As the Georgia situation has cooled witness violence in ostensible support of succession of Bolivia's energy-rich lowlands from the control of the democratic republic. McCain backers, well connected via the USAID's International Republican Institute to Latin American military and private sector financial leaders, can escalate in a coordinated fashion.
The Post carries water.

Posted by: Steve | September 12, 2008 6:55 PM

Venezuela a tyrant? The last I heard, they were giving us discounted home heating oil when people were about to freeze in their homes. Chavez has a problem with Bush, not with the American People.

Posted by: Think People | September 12, 2008 6:54 PM

Did you see Gov. Palin's interview with "Charlie" on ABC just now? Wow, That Ball is still flying. I think she ripped the cover off of it!

Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008 6:53 PM

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