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Obama Doubles Down on Change Message

By Jonathan Weisman
With Democratic jitters mounting over the Obama campaign, the presidential candidate's campaign manager, David Plouffe, released a memo trying to calm frayed nerves.

"In recent weeks, John McCain has shown that he is willing to go into the gutter to win this election. His campaign has become nothing but a series of smears, lies, and cynical attempts to distract from the issues that matter to the American people," he wrote.

But, he assured supporters, "We will respond with speed and ferocity to John McCain's attacks and we will take the fight to him, but we will do it on the big issues that matter to the American people. We will not allow John McCain and his band of Karl Rove disciples to make this big election about small things."

Plouffe said that with the selection of Palin, McCain had abandoned his core message of experience and moved to Barack Obama's ground of change. With just two months to go, McCain will have to remake himself as the agent of change.

"That is a debate we welcome," he concluded.

The full memo follows:

TO: Interested Parties
FR: David Plouffe, Campaign Manager
RE: Heading into the Final Stretch
DA: September 12, 2008
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Summary

With both conventions and the vice-presidential selections behind us, the campaign is now heading into the final stretch. The race has settled into a tight race nationally with Obama well-positioned in the key battleground states, a historic enthusiasm gap, and a debate being waged on Obama's home turf -- change.

In recent weeks, John McCain has shown that he is willing to go into the gutter to win this election. His campaign has become nothing but a series of smears, lies, and cynical attempts to distract from the issues that matter to the American people. But as Barack Obama said earlier this week "enough is enough." This election is too important and the challenges too big to spend the next 54 days talking about trivial non-issues.

Today is the first day of the rest of the campaign, and today we are releasing two new ads that go directly at the fundamental issue in this race: John McCain is out of touch with the American people and unable to address the challenges facing the country in the 21 st century and bring about real change, and that Barack Obama is the candidate who will bring about change that works for the middle class.

We will respond with speed and ferocity to John McCain's attacks and we will take the fight to him, but we will do it on the big issues that matter to the American people. We will not allow John McCain and his band of Karl Rove disciples to make this big election about small things.

Senator Biden will be integral to that effort, both in pushing back on the lies that we'll continue to see from our opponents, and in keeping the debate focused on delivering for everyday Americans. After all, that's what Joe Biden has done throughout his career: passing the Crime Bill to put more cops on our streets, passing to the landmark Violence Against Women Act, and serving as a steadfast voice every day for those more concerned about the price of gas and saving for retirement than the latest political charade in Washington.

A Change Election with Two Converts

For the entire general election campaign, the McCain campaign has insisted that years in Washington should be the yardstick by which Americans measure their next President. But in recent days, and with his selection of a running mate with no Washington experience, Senator McCain has abandoned his core argument. Now he and his strategists have belatedly come to the realization that, after eight disastrous years, the American people are demanding change.

So the candidate who just months ago was openly boasting that he has been a faithful supporter of George W. Bush's policies, and would continue them as President, now is improbably scrambling to offer himself as the candidate who will deliver the change America needs - even as President Bush holds a fundraiser for him today in Oklahoma.

This is a debate we welcome. It is the debate America needs.

For two decades, Barack Obama has challenged political insiders and outworn thinking to bring about real, meaningful change that helps people, not special interests. From welfare reform, to tax relief for working families, to health care for children of working families who lacked coverage, Obama has been at the forefront of fights that have made a difference in the lives of everyday Americans.

In Washington, Obama has been a consistent opponent of the Bush policies that have hobbled our economy and weakened the middle class, and his proposals for the future would steer us away from that disastrous course.

He's challenged leaders of both parties by passing landmark reforms that took dead aim at the campaign contributions and favors through which corporate lobbyists have rigged the system. He worked across the aisle to pass laws reining in no-bid contracts and opening the budget process to the American people.

And Obama has lived by those principles in this campaign, refusing the contributions of Washington lobbyists and political action committees and imposing those same rules on the Democratic National Committee. Lobbyists don't run his campaign. And when he's President, they won't run his White House.

But what about John McCain?

Can we really expect change from a Senator who supported the Bush policies 90 percent of the time? Who has said the Bush policies have brought about "great progress economically" and who just three weeks ago proclaimed the economy fundamentally strong?

The fact is that while he mouths the word "change," Senator McCain's record and proposals scream "more of the same." His plans for the economy, energy, health care, education and Iraq barely stray from the Bush policies that are in place today.

And can we really expect change from a candidate whose campaign is being run by some of the most powerful corporate lobbyists in Washington?

While Senator McCain loudly declares that he will tell the special interests in Washington that their day is "over," they are working overtime to elect him.

Seven of the top officials in his campaign are lobbyists. Between them, they have lobbied for Big Oil, the drug and insurance industries, foreign governments--even Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. His campaign manager routinely lobbied for corporations who had business before the Senate Commerce Committee that McCain chaired.

Corporate Lobbyists and PACs have contributed millions of dollars to his campaign and the Republican National Committee on his behalf.

Does anyone believe they are spending their time, money and energy to put themselves out of business?

That is not change. It's more of the same.

A debate about delivering change is a debate we're happy to have. Because no matter how many times McCain and Governor Palin use the word "change" or try to reinvent their own records, one thing stays the same: the fact that when it comes to the economy, education, Iraq, or the special interests' stranglehold on Washington, they both are stubborn defenders of the past eight years and they both promise more of the same.

One final note:

Senator McCain has called the news media "his base" because of the friendly treatment he has received. And he undoubtedly is counting on his "base" to overlook the gulf between his newly minted "change" message, and the realities of his record and campaign.

His lobbyist-manager said Sunday that Governor Palin would only submit to questions about her record, statements and views when they determine that the news media will treat her with due "deference" -- a startling and arrogant new standard for public officials in our democracy.

But we trust that the obvious conflicts between their rhetoric and records, their promises and their plans will not go unreported in the last 53 days of this campaign.

Posted at 7:33 AM ET on Sep 12, 2008  | Category:  Primary Source
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Funny that you would even write this considering he has recieved almost the most money from the two BIGGEST Lobby groups in Washington (Fannie & Freddie). Don't believe me? Go check for yourself. Here is one source for you - http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

Posted by: zkid7 | September 18, 2008 8:39 AM

We're in trouble, people.

We're in trouble because too few (from either side) can think, let alone write. We're in trouble because people think that the election is about who they can RELATE to, who is more LIKEABLE, who connects with THEIR GUTS. Apparently they feel no need to run their opinions through their brains. Apparently figuring out who is going to make their lives better doesn't matter. Of course, we lap up American Idol and National Enquirer and other such moronic fare, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised . . .

You know what? I WANT my president (and VP, too, because he/she just might have to step in and BE president) to be smarter than me, to have known something of the world, to have given SERIOUS THOUGHT to big issues, to have surrounded him/herself with other very smart people who have given serious thought to big issues. Yes, I do want to know that my president understands what matters to me, but what is more important is that my president understands policy, understands politics (slimy as it is), understands the world, understands how government can help me, how government can hurt me, and has reasonable ideas about making things better for all of us.

Don't you want your physician (that's a medical doctor to those many very ignorant of you out there . . .) to know a helluva lot more than you?? When you hire a lawyer, don't you want the smartest damn lawyer you can find?? And you think choosing a president is LESS important??? You would overlook or at least tolerate your lawyer's or doctor's personality flows if you thought they were advancing your cause.

SOOOO, if you have RATIONAL reasons for supporting either McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden, then at least you've made a start. If not, stay the hell home on Nov. 4, and let the thinkers (on either side) decide this election, because the stakes are too high.

Think I'm an intellectual snob??? I don't give a who-rang-diddly-damn, and you can just smooch my behind. Ron White was right: you can't fix stupid. John Wesley was right, too: while God may not NEED our learning, he SURELY doesn't need our ignorance.

Will someone please put some chlorine in the gene pool????

Posted by: increasingly cranky, old white male democrat in WV | September 14, 2008 11:17 PM

McCain is a noun,verb,and POW!He doesn't mention that when in Vietnam he crashed 5 times,and graduated #889 in his military school.Where Obama graduated at the top from college.I think America needs to really look at,do they want a President that the only thing going for him is he is a POW,(and crashing 5 times is was destined to be captured)or a very intelligent President? Haven't we had 8 years of stupidity,do you really think we can afford another 4 to 8 years more.And now McCain has to hide behind a womans dress in order to have any hope to win!!!Even though you can bet he isn't going to let her do much if they win.He has been against all womans rights since he has been in the Senate.

Posted by: Gail | September 14, 2008 5:18 PM

This verbal foodfight reminds me of Junior High school. "Hooray for our side," is not, technically speaking, an actual argument. An actual argument would include thoughtful reasoning, logic, citations, references, etc. This is not actually that complex: Harvard Law Review vs. a guy who was 5th from the bottom in a class of over 800. My choice: the 5th from the bottom guy. No one likes a president who is actually intelligent.

Posted by: Mikel | September 13, 2008 3:03 PM

It is unbelievable that this man Mc Cain call himself a patriot and says that the"country comes first" and he picks an incompetent person as a VP with no experience what so ever. He is endangering the nation should some thing happen to him, he would rather put our beloved nation at risk than loose an election,. when it comes to patriotism he is the cream of the crap

Posted by: joseph | September 13, 2008 11:37 AM

How many readers believe that a woman would have been the VP choice for the Republican ticket if it were not for Obama? ..or had this already been concocted when Hillary was the potential adversary?

Either way, Obama has already brought on this change without even being elected.

Thanks Barack!

Posted by: politically correct | September 13, 2008 9:53 AM

XX Wrote: if we can defeat Hussein Obama in this election we won't have to worry about another black presidential candidate for a generation or more!

Think about it, folks. Vote McCain.

Posted by: XXX | September 12, 2008 1:06 PM
______________My Note to XX___________
It is possible that you are unaware that your parents are "Black" and you live in denial. And it is possible that you had nannies or babysitter whose skin was black and you envied them for their accomplishments. That is why you would prefer someone whose IQ is that of GWB and JMcC lower placement in his class, who was a rebel and did not even want to serve his country, until he saw that he could make a name for himself by being a "pow" to get the attention he has now "milked" for years!!!!

Posted by: proud64 | September 13, 2008 4:07 AM

"red neck and proud of it" another traitor of america but were glad he/she are proud of it

Jack, noone who votes democrat or independent genuinely loves the USA. You're just voting for foreign control of our blessed nation. So dont try to fool us were not biting your bait.

Patriots only vote republican that has been clearly established since the time of Lincoln. Black people vote democrat today because they feel no obligation to elect the party that freed them

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 5:12 PM

Jack, noone who votes democrat or independent genuinely loves the USA. You're just voting for foreign control of our blessed nation. So dont try to fool us were not biting your bait.

Patriots only vote republican that has been clearly established since the time of Lincoln. Black people vote democrat today because they feel no obligation to elect the party that freed them.

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As I was reading a lot of these comments I couldn't help but think Is there any hope for this country. My party wrong or right should not be the idea behind a monumental
decision like who to vote for to run our beloved country for the next four years. I have voted Rep. Dem. and Independent all decisions being based on who I thought would be best for the USA. It is your responsibility as an American to do just that. People say that they want change but just keep bickering about partisan politics the very thing that keeps Washington progress at an absolute standstill. Got back and read your comment and see if you think that it represents a mature attitude one which would allow a person to make a proper decision come election day.

Posted by: Jack Brown | September 12, 2008 4:01 PM

Posted by: red neck and proud of it | September 12, 2008 4:28 PM

People are being very unfair to Sarah Palin that she didn't have a clue about what the Bush Doctrine is. Its not like this doctrine is simple or unchanging, it has been a dynamic strategy ever since our president took office-see here:

Jacob Weisberg has identified six Bush Doctrines: Bush Doctrine 1.0 was Unipolar Realism (3/7/99--9/10/01); Bush Doctrine 2.0 was With Us or Against Us (9/11/01--5/31/02); Bush Doctrine 3.0 was Preemption (6/1/02--11/5/03); Bush Doctrine 4.0 was Democracy in the Middle East (11/6/03--1/19/05); Bush Doctrine 5.0 was Freedom Everywhere (1/20/05-- 11/7/06); and Bush Doctrine 6.0 (11/8/06 to date) is the "absence of any functioning doctrine at all."

Posted by: McCain/Palin | September 12, 2008 4:19 PM

As I was reading a lot of these comments I couldn't help but think Is there any hope for this country. My party wrong or right should not be the idea behind a monumental
decision like who to vote for to run our beloved country for the next four years. I have voted Rep. Dem. and Independent all decisions being based on who I thought would be best for the USA. It is your responsibility as an American to do just that. People say that they want change but just keep bickering about partisan politics the very thing that keeps Washington progress at an absolute standstill. Got back and read your comment and see if you think that it represents a mature attitude one which would allow a person to make a proper decision come election day.

Posted by: Jack Brown | September 12, 2008 4:01 PM

Notice how the dems can't come up with any substance, just rhetoric and 1 liners. That's their only defence! Where's the meat, dems? Sit back and watch with me as the 1 liners, totally lacking substance, keep on coming....

TYPICAL DEM RESPONSES:

come on traitors lets vote for mccain

america haters for mccain

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:09 PM

theres one traitor keep it going

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:07 PM

mccain a dishonorable vet.

traitors for mccain should be his next endorsement

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:03 PM

mccain, palin bush cheney satan 2008 what a ticket

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:01 PM


Posted by: tater boy | September 12, 2008 2:15 PM

you forgot about the one about the evangelical who wanted rain on obama but got it on bush instead

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:24 PM

isn't that what republicans do and when the other side does it they cry and throw tantrums like the spoiled brats they are.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:19 PM

come on folks Mccain, palin satan, lets get those signs together

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:15 PM

Notice how the dems can't come up with any substance, just rhetoric and 1 liners. That's their only defence! Where's the meat, dems? Sit back and watch with me as the 1 liners, totally lacking substance, keep on coming....

TYPICAL DEM RESPONSES:

come on traitors lets vote for mccain

america haters for mccain

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:09 PM

theres one traitor keep it going

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:07 PM

mccain a dishonorable vet.

traitors for mccain should be his next endorsement

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:03 PM

mccain, palin bush cheney satan 2008 what a ticket

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:01 PM

Posted by: tater boy | September 12, 2008 2:15 PM

remember the evangelical who wished for rain on obama isn't intereting it rained on bush

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:13 PM

"let the republicans have the country. "

Thank you for that surrender. Just hand us the keys to power and we'll let you be on your way.

Republicans are FIGHTERS. That's why we always win irrespective of our record or our policies.

Chew on that a while, dems.

MCCAIN08

Posted by: MCCAIN/PALIN08 | September 12, 2008 2:12 PM

theres another

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:11 PM

"let the republicans have the country. "

Thank you for that surrender. Just hand us the keys to power and we'll let you be on your way.

Republicans are FIGHTERS. That's why we always win irrespective of our record or our policies.

Chew on that a while, dems.

MCCAIN08

Posted by: MCCAIN/PALIN08 | September 12, 2008 2:10 PM

come on traitors lets vote for mccain

america haters for mccain

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:09 PM

theres one traitor keep it going

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:07 PM

If we can defeat Hussein Obama in this election we won't have to worry about another black presidential candidate for a generation or more! Not only that, once Obama is defeated he'll be marginalized by the democrats he stepped on, including Hillary. Obama's defeat will be a lasting defeat for black political upward mobility.

Think about it, folks. Consider the big picture. Vote McCain.

Posted by: XXX | September 12, 2008 2:06 PM

mccain a dishonorable vet.

traitors for mccain should be his next endorsement

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:03 PM

mccain, palin bush cheney satan 2008 what a ticket

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:01 PM

YOU HAVE BEEN MCCAIN-IZED.....

McCain for president! I think that is the funniest tag line for a joke I have heard all year.

It is amazing that he still has fans that think he is a great guy... Eventhough he is a documented liar, has questionable relationships, wants to lessen our countries security by lashing out at imagined as well as real enemies, and has strong immoral beliefs as evidenced by his admitted messing around while married. You would think that this wouldn't be an issue because of his obvious failings, but it appears that ignorance is at an all time high!

It sure is scary that people have the ability to smile while they contribute to the decline of America.

Posted by: disturbed | September 12, 2008 1:59 PM

let the republicans have the country. you'd think the last 8 years would have taught americans enough lessons to last a century but i guess not. let's just hope we don't have to wait until the country and economy is burned to the ground before the rest of the easily manipulated population wakes up. america deserves everything it gets.

Posted by: jesus christ | September 12, 2008 1:58 PM

mccain is a dishonorable man who has lied about his experience. vets are ashamed of such a shamless con man

womanizer
shoved a woman in a wheel. admits he didn't love his country until he was i vietnam

what a loser

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:58 PM

YOU HAVE BEEN OBAMA-LAME-IZED.....

Obama for president! I think that is the funniest tag line for a joke I have heard all year.

It is amazing that he still has fans that think he is a great guy... Eventhough he is a documented liar, has questionable relationships, wants to lessen our countries security by lashing out at imagined as well as real enemies, and has strong immoral beliefs as evidenced by his admitted messing around while married. You would think that this wouldn't be an issue because of his obvious failings, but it appears that ignorance is at an all time high!

It sure is scary that people have the ability to smile while they contribute to the decline of America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:51 PM

JT - I really hope that was satire. If not, all i can say is wow.

Posted by: really | September 12, 2008 1:51 PM

Every day I pray to our Almighty that the God driven policy put into place by our current President will continue to stand after the election: "You're either with us or against us; you're either evil or you're good." - President George W Bush Feb 11 2002

We are blessed by the Lord in John McCain selecting Sarah Palin as his vice presidential candidate. There is only a good and an evil candidate in this election and I beg all of you to vote only God fearing ones into office. Thanks for letting me say my piece.

JT

Posted by: JT | September 12, 2008 1:35 PM

"People need to wake up and start thinking"

What a naive and stupid comment for a Homo sapiens to make about the species.

YOU are the most naive of anyone here for even having such expectations. Get real!

Posted by: Charles | September 12, 2008 1:30 PM

My God people are dumb.

The rest of the world laughs (and cries) at our political discourse. America must have a collective IQ of about 43 based on the comments I read in regards to this story.

IF I TYPE IN ALL CAPS IT MEANS THAT I AM MAKING AN EXTRA NEAT-O MUST READ FACT!!!1eleven!!

Or the look at this link to the story I read on the internet. I read it on the internet so it must be true.

People need to wake up and start thinking, there is far too much at stake in this day in age.

Posted by: Ben | September 12, 2008 1:25 PM

YOU HAVE BEEN MCCAIN-IZED.....

McCain for president! I think that is the funniest tag line for a joke I have heard all year.

It is amazing that he still has fans that think he is a great guy... Eventhough he is a documented liar, has questionable relationships, wants to lessen our countries security by lashing out at imagined as well as real enemies, and has strong immoral beliefs as evidenced by his admitted messing around while married. You would think that this wouldn't be an issue because of his obvious failings, but it appears that ignorance is at an all time high!

It sure is scary that people have the ability to smile while they contribute to the decline of America.

Posted by: disturbed | September 12, 2008 1:10 PM

If we can defeat Hussein Obama in this election we won't have to worry about another black presidential candidate for a generation or more!

Think about it, folks. Vote McCain.

Posted by: XXX | September 12, 2008 1:06 PM

AGAIN: The only Vietnam vet who could possibly be embarrassed by John McCain's wartime heroism in this great land of ours might be you.... but you're probably not even a vet!

Posted by: Smirking | September 12, 2008 1:04 PM

vietnam vets are embarrassed by mccains self glorification and his lies about being told he could leave vietnam, nonsense and his story about the cross in the sand comes from a book

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:01 PM

YOU HAVE BEEN OBAMATIZED.....

Obama for president! I think that is the funniest tag line for a joke I have heard all year.

It is amazing that he still has fans that think he is a great guy... Eventhough he is a documented liar, has questionable relationships, wants to lessen our countries security, and has strong immoral beliefs. You would think that this wouldn't be an issue because of his obvious failings, but it appears that ignorance is at an all time high!

It sure is scary that people have the ability to smile while they contribute to the decline of America.

Get out your "I love China!" bumper stickers.

Posted by: james_bowen4 | September 12, 2008 12:58 PM

I agree a lot with this posting I read below:

I am SOOOOOO proud of John McCain and his crew. He's gone from the perennial underdog to the top dog because he knows that to win an election in the USA you've got to get down in the gutter and dirty and be first one to do it.

In a year, no one will even remember the election and in 5 years hardly anyone will remember Barack Obama. What counts is winning and getting those reigns of power.

The McCain campaign strategy is turning more brilliant by the day. Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight to win, John, I'm 100% in back of ya!

McCain 08
McCain 12

Posted by: Harold from St Louis | September 12, 2008 11:57 AM

Posted by: Soccer mom | September 12, 2008 12:50 PM

John McCain's bad temper is going to prove to be a real godsend to us when he assumes leadership next year. Do you honestly think Putin would have invaded Georgia if McCain gotten to him first, visited Putin in Moscow and yelled his head off so much that Putin was forced to retreat from his own Dacha?

My fellow Americans, you also need to look beyond your noses and see that what you think are weaknesses are actually very positive attributes.

As far as John McCain's infidelity that some of you insist on making an issue of, consider this: polls show that about half of American men cheat on their spouses at some point in their lives. I'm certain those numbers include all the swing votes.

Women will vote the ticket because Sarah is one of them. Men will vote the ticket because John McCain is like most of them.

Set. Score. McCain wins!

ANOTHER PROUD MCCAIN SUPPORTER

Posted by: Proud Dubya | September 12, 2008 12:47 PM

Don Froomkin says: "vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's evident cluelessness when asked in an interview yesterday if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine is appropriately being seen as emblematic of her ignorance of foreign policy."

You've got it all wrong, Don. It's the economy, stupid. We don't care if our president (or VP) knows anything about foreign policy - that's why we have government bureaucrats!

And for those who think they're so smart who point out that Sarah Palin doesn't know anything about the economy, may I remind you that it is the head of the Federal Reserve (most famously Alan Greenspan) who have far more to do with our economy than any President. Past presidents have begged the Fed Chairman to raise or lower interest rates but in the end, the President has NO power.

It doesn't matter whether Sarah Palin knows or doesn't know about foreign affairs or the economy. Let me quote Bay Buchanan: "it doesn't at all. Her answer was excellent. It will make Americans feel that much closer to her. She's very real. Sure, she hasn't traveled overseas to meet these foreign leaders. But that's not what American's are looking for. She's absolutely correct. They want somebody that they can relate to. Who's hearing them. They're sick and tired of those people in Washington who may know lots of facts and figures and meet lots of people..."

Posted by: Deservedly Righteous | September 12, 2008 12:41 PM

Gov. Palin acts like I want my American leaders to act. I am impressed with her character and I thought her first interview was successful. She said what I wanted to hear, proud to be an American and willing to draw lines at the appropriate level. She is no persons wallflower and the U.S. will be well served by her tenure in office, now and later. By the by, is she qualified enough to raise a son who will fight for his country and not qualified to lead him in the best possible direction as a vice president? The claims of her inexperience to govern are nonsense. I'll take her type, any day.

Posted by: paukune | September 12, 2008 12:33 PM

The only Vietnam vet who could possibly be embarrassed by John McCain's wartime heroism in this great land of ours might be you.... but you're probably not even a vet!

Posted by: Smirking | September 12, 2008 12:20 PM

absolutley lets elect a man who with his naked ambition would embarass the memories of vietnam vets and all veterans.

its good for america to have a proven liar
and mentally unstable as commander in chief

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 12:11 PM

Three pinocchios for a McCain campaign ad claiming that Barack Obama has "air-dropped a mini-army" of opposition researchers into Alaska in an attempt to "destroy" Sarah Palin. ( 6:00 AM ET)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 12:08 PM

The one thing I admire about Mr McCain is his naked ambition. Naked ambistion is what has driven our country to new levels. Naked ambition has been our economic powerhouse for generations.

By electing a man with naked ambition to become our next president, we set high standards for ourselves and the rest of the world.

I'm all wet to welcome John McCain to the presidency next January.

Posted by: Naked Ambition | September 12, 2008 12:07 PM

I am SOOOOOO proud of John McCain and his crew. He's gone from the perennial underdog to the top dog because he knows that to win an election in the USA you've got to get down in the gutter and dirty and be first one to do it.

In a year, no one will even remember the election and in 5 years hardly anyone will remember Barack Obama. What counts is winning and getting those reigns of power.

The McCain campaign strategy is turning more brilliant by the day. Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight to win, John, I'm 100% in back of ya!

McCain 08
McCain 12

Posted by: Harold from St Louis | September 12, 2008 11:57 AM

will someone please tell the truth about his vietnam days. that story about the cross in the sand is taken from a book
by alexander solzhenitsyn

wake up america. this is naked ambition

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 11:56 AM

To quote another poster:

"democrats first with a jew on ticket
democrats first with an african american"

That should be reason enough to vote Republican, huh?

Posted by: Dave | September 12, 2008 11:51 AM

The Obama campaign and the liberal media is in disarray, confused and foaming at the mouth after the Maverick, John McCain chose Sarah Palin, a woman reformer for VP. Their response has been a vicious attack on Sarah ranging from insults to smearing and the sexist tactics that brought Hillary's campaign crashing down.

Obama fractured and divided the democratic party when he rejected the choice of 18 million democrats and instead of choosing Hillary for VP, he chose an old Washington politician Joe Biden, and by this grave mistake in choice, negated the flag of "change" Obama had been waiving and replaced it with the "more of the same" one.

On the other side, The Maverick stole the mantra of change from Barack when he selected a woman reformer for VP, who has gained the respect of the State she governs as well as of the nation governors.

The McCain/Palin ticket has also given hope to all the 18 million former Hillary supporters who now have a very compelling reason to vote for the republican ticket, as a way to put their country first by electing a president that has the qualifications, experience and love for our country and at the same time elect a woman to the White House as equal partners in governance and leadership of our country.

Country First!
McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Manolete | September 12, 2008 11:48 AM

The Loyal Conservative from Missouri (Becky) is right on with her comment. We can't have the uncertainty of one investigation after another to muddy the waters when the next president should be focusing on more important matters like the economy.

Think for a moment how America came to a halt as we all were glued to the tube waiting to hear the latest from the Gary Condit scandal.

I agree with Becky that putting scandals and corruption into the open is only distracting.

Vote Republican!

Posted by: A Supporter | September 12, 2008 11:47 AM

come on people. does anyone seriously believe that mccain and noone else was offered a chance to leave vietnam, just because McCain was the son of one of the highest military commanders in Vietnam, unlike his prison colleagues? that is totally unheard of for any enemy to show favoritism hoping they'll get a break. wheres the swiftboat people

american can't be that naive

Posted by: blah blah blah | September 12, 2008 11:45 AM

Loyal Conservative from MO (Becky) - educate yourself and open up to new ideas instead of living in the PAST as you most GOP cults do. ENOUGH is ENOUGH!! Have had 8 years of corruption, lies, deceits, fabrications, and we see the McCain ticket continues to lie to us over and over again. Blatant lies that is!! When is it ENOUGH and kick this people to the curb and lead this nation the right way? NOW IS THE TIME FOLKS!

Posted by: Dan | September 12, 2008 11:43 AM

come on people. does anyone seriously believe that mccain and noone else was offered a chance to leave vietnam. that is totally unheard of. wheres the swiftboat people

american can't be that naive

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 11:43 AM

come on people. does anyone seriously believe that mccain and noone else was offered a chance to leave vietnam. that is totally unheard of. wheres the swiftboat people

american can't be that naive

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 11:43 AM

No one would vote either Repub or Dem if they truly wanted change for our country.........

Posted by: Carl | September 12, 2008 11:43 AM

McCain-Palin:

The two offer no real substance as it regards the concerns of Americans today.For me, its not even about popular policies...but its about what issues are held with utmost importance to whomever is going to be elected. The so called Maverick find its exciting to invest in Military innovation & waging wars rather than solve the problems associated with the economy, education, health, energy and so on. If you ask me, this an old politician with very old + bad Washington values (speaking about being out of touch).Completely useless in current times. As for Palin, she is just not ready for the big stage. Think just found that it would be a wonderful opportunity to add the V.P. title to her name. Honestly, what is she going to do for the USA. She may be alright as Mayor of Alaska, but certainly not VP. That ticket is defunct...a Mirage constructed by the Republicans strategist.
Its time Americans become objective and begin looking beyond race, class, gender & colour. Its time to change the cycle...time to shift history. My presidents needs to be articulate, without being robust or a tyrant. He should be able to wield power/diplomacy gracefully. The other leaders of today have firm beliefs and he needs to be able sit down with these.Putin said that he doesnt want his country to be treated like outsiders, barbarians,he wanted to be treated as civilized. Who is going to do that? Surely not McCain. Don't you see? He is ready for another cold war if elected.
Obama-Biden is our only hope.

Posted by: Fabian JA! | September 12, 2008 11:37 AM

To quote another poster:

"democrats first with a jew on ticket
democrats first with an african american"

That should be reason enough to vote Republican, huh?

Posted by: Dave | September 12, 2008 11:35 AM

It is essential that all thinking people vote Republican this Nov. There are a number of investigations pending both within Justice Dept as well as Congress which could get some loyal Republicans in trouble. Keeping the handles of power in Republican hands is essential to paralyse if not destroy these ill intentioned efforts to embarrass prominent Republicans. If you ever owed your job, your family values, etc to the Republican party's primary beliefs then for God's sake vote Republican this Nov and kill those investigations!!!! Please.

Posted by: Loyal Conservative from MO (Becky) | September 12, 2008 11:33 AM

Thank GOD John McCain is a maverick and a change agent and NOT a conservative.

Conservatism - look up in the dictionary what that means - it means NOT changing. Being careful with change. Resistant to change.

USAGE: "Rather than embracing this new technology quickly, I'm going to be conservative....."

Posted by: Screwball Willie | September 12, 2008 11:29 AM

Three pinocchios for a McCain campaign ad claiming that Barack Obama has "air-dropped a mini-army" of opposition researchers into Alaska in an attempt to "destroy" Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Jim | September 12, 2008 11:27 AM

If McCain can defeat Obama, I can guarantee you we won't see another black candidate for President for 50 years. Not only that, Obama will be marginalised and never have much power again, he's already alienated Hillary, he'll never get another nomination.

The way to keep blacks out of the highest office in our land is to DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to ensure that John McCain wins.

And how bout that good ol gal McCain has picked as his running mate, wasn't THAT a brilliant campaign move!!!!

Posted by: Hip Horah | September 12, 2008 11:26 AM

I don't really think that attacking McCain's computer skills is all that ferocious. Try again.

Posted by: Kate | September 12, 2008 11:07 AM

Obama’s campaign has been premised from the start that we need a fundamental change in government.

I understand why McCain would want to seize this slogan; its innovative, inspiring, forward thinking, and it works. This is what Obama's campaign is all about. Real change, not just rhetoric.

The maverick that John McCain was, is no more – that was history. We need to move forward, to look forward to real change. We need a leader who inspires.

OBAMA'08
OBAMA'12

Posted by: one4REALchange | September 12, 2008 11:06 AM

i have voted repubican in my life and democrat. when president carter was in office i had to vote republican because the country was headed in the wrong direction

the country is clearly in the wrong direction today and so i will vote democrat

for me its not difficult decision. i don't think you reward the party that takes us in the wrong direction. four years from now if we are in wrong direction. i will vote republican

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 11:06 AM

"I'm sorry McMcain, I love my party(Repub.)
but I can't in good faith,vote for her,
she really is starting to embarrass me,
I love this country to much to accept our
party vp choice.I have to sit this one out."

There's no shame in voting against the party you hold dear. It's just a case of the wrong ticket for the wrong job :P

Posted by: Xander | September 12, 2008 11:04 AM

"I'm sorry McMcain, I love my party(Repub.)
but I can't in good faith,vote for her,
she really is starting to embarrass me,
I love this country to much to accept our
party vp choice.I have to sit this one out."

Posted by: Xander | September 12, 2008 11:03 AM

with all the talk about change

democrats first with a roman catholic
democrats first with a woman on ticket
democrats first with a jew on ticket
democrats first with an african american

on the first three the nation has rejected change. maybe its not the candidates who need to change maybe its the nation

with all due respect the repubicans are just waking up to the need for change

Posted by: straighttalk | September 12, 2008 11:03 AM

with all the talk about change

democrats first with a roman catholic
democrats first with a woman on ticket
democrats first with a jew on ticket
democrats first with an african american

on the first three the nation has rejected change. maybe its not the candidates who need to change maybe its the nation

with all due respect the repubicans are just waking up to the need for change

Posted by: straighttalk | September 12, 2008 11:03 AM

with all the talk about change

democrats first with a roman catholic
democrats first with a woman on ticket
democrats first with a jew on ticket
democrats first with an african american

on the first three the nation has rejected change. maybe its not the candidates who need to change maybe its the nation

with all due respect the repubicans are just waking up to the need for change

Posted by: straighttalk | September 12, 2008 11:03 AM

I'm sorry McMcain, I love my party(Repub.)
but I can't in good faith,vote for her,
she really is starting to embarrass me,
I love this country to much to accept our
party vp choice.I have to sit this one out.

Posted by: Gail | September 12, 2008 10:59 AM

Just remember all of you who are too young to have seen the rise and fall of the German Third Reich and Hitlers Nazis. He promised change too and the world has never been the same. 50 Million people died in WWII. Obama cannot be trusted with the most powerful office in the world. His kind of change seems too much like history repeating itself...
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You’re an absolute jerk for even suggesting that Senator Obama, a respected member of the U.S. Senate and candidate for President of the United States is in any way like Hitler. It’s apparent that you have little grasp of history, let alone an awareness of what is going on now. If you lived through Hitler’s era, as you seem to suggest, you certainly didn’t learn anything from the experience.

Posted by: lhummer | September 12, 2008 10:57 AM

McCain and Palin:

Telling lies; making them big and repeating them often. Business as usual. McCain may be gutsy, but he's not honest.

Do you REALLY want to repeat the experiences of the past 8 years? Then go ahead an vote for them. Because if they get elected, I promise you the only thing that will change is a few of the faces up front.

IF you think Obama is too much of an unknown - know this: NOTHING really changes if you decide to vote for his opponents.

As far as getting a woman in the WH goes - I want it to be the right woman - a woman I can truly identify with. It will happen and probably will happen in what's left of my lifetime. (With the caveat that, if we keep going in the direction of the last eight years, we will probably end up sooner than you think as a third world military dictatorship.)

Let's get it right this time folks - it's too important to let the shills distract us from the lobbyist behind the curtain.

Posted by: wwwqueen | September 12, 2008 10:57 AM

"as one reads all of the news magazines who have essentially said mccain is lying about issues how can americans stomach this display dishonesty that dishonors american veterans"

Because McCain is lying about things. It's been proven time and time again. Him being a Vet gives him no extended rights to lie about anything more than a non-Vet. When he speaks about "honor and integrity", he has to back that talk up. He hasn't. He lies, he manipulates, and he fabricates. That is not the mark of an honorable person.

Posted by: Xander | September 12, 2008 10:56 AM

Obama/Biden will help the whole world
McCain/Palin will bomb the whole world

Posted by: patrick | September 12, 2008 10:56 AM

"We will respond".. Sounds like a plan. Not

Posted by: Dave | September 12, 2008 10:54 AM

Palin does not even know the name of the President of Mexico

Posted by: Jhon | September 12, 2008 10:54 AM

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.BUT I THOUGHT THE MAVERICK WAS CHANGE????

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HE CHANGED WIVES DOESNT THAT COUNT????
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OBAMA CANT BE CHANGE HE ISNT THE MAVERICK????

Look McCain cheated on his Wife and

SARAH PALIN HAS EVEN BEEN ACCUSED OF CHEATING, A STEAMY AFFAIR!!!
But thats just the Maverick in them.,

http://www.hotpres.com

THAT JUST MAKES THEM CHANGE! SEE BUSH NEVER CHEATED. DO WE WANT MORE OF THE SAME NON CHEATERS?? HMMM??? OBAMA WOULD JUST BE MORE OF THE SAME NON CHEATING BUSH.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 12, 2008 10:48 AM

To get this country on its feet again is going to require some difficult decisions to be made and the first is getting the fed spending to a balanced point. To do this will require severe cuts in government spending and an increase in taxes on those that can afford it.

Its time to pull the military back to this country and put them on the southern border if for no other reason than while this remains porous just about anyone can smuggle anything in.

Its time to re look at existing pork and stop subsidizing everyone who comes forward with their hands out.

Why are we subsidizing bug oil, the farmers, the banks etc. It's time for the wealthy to realize if you invest in the wrong things you can loose money. In a similar vein if you have the wrong people in charge the same applies. Its not up to the public to bail you out.

There are plenty of small businesses out there going bust with no help from anyone. Just ask the truckers that move all our food and goods around. So if GM goes down its gone and some parts will be bought by companies that know how to run things.

furthermore we need to do this next year not 20 years down the road.

Posted by: Alex P | September 12, 2008 10:46 AM

Issues issues issues!!!!
That is what I want to hear about. I am tired of they said this and they said that from both of these campaigns. Here is a ticket I would vote for.

Obama/Palin '08

http://www.boppoll.com

That would be real change!

Posted by: They are both change! | September 12, 2008 10:42 AM

why all the secrecy about mccains partying with italian con man

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:42 AM

Now that McCain uses similar language and copies many of the "change" ideas from Obama, they hope that issues will no longer be the central issue, in order to support their sophomoric claim that it's about personalities.

Posted by: Listenup | September 12, 2008 10:41 AM

as one reads all of the news magazines who have essentially said mccain is lying about issues how can americans stomach this display dishonesty that dishonors american veterans

Posted by: straighttalk | September 12, 2008 10:39 AM

12 Sept 08-"WHY THE SECRECY ABOUT OBAMA'S COLLEGE RECORDS?" (Andy Martin)
Quote:
BARACK OBAMA AND WILLIAM AYERS: DID THEY MEET AT COLUMBIA?

WHY THE SECRECY ABOUT OBAMA'S COLLEGE RECORDS?

(NEW YORK, NY)(September 12, 2008) Barack Obama had the wrong calling. Instead of being a "community organizer" he should have joined the CIA. Obama knows how to cover his tracks. He could be called the "clandestine candidate."

Obama spent two years at Columbia University yet left virtually no fingerprints of his presence there. Could that be because Columbia was where Mr. Obama first met "mad bomber" William Ayers?

Obama has also refused to release his Columbia University transcripts. What secrets lurk there? Likewise for Occidental College where he attended for two years. What is he trying to hide? I arrived in the Columbia area to study theology at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine shortly after Obama had left, so I know the neighborhood well. I have gone back to retrace were he might have been. No luck. No footprints, either.

What has Obama's past behavior over the past four years taught me? When Obama is hiding something he is hiding something.

Is it just a coincidence that Obama and Ayers were on the Columbia campus together? Did they meet and make their initial contact at that time? Had Obama been turned on to Ayers by Frank Marshall Davis? Was there a Khalid Al-Mansour and William Ayers connection during this early period. Questions, questions. But no answers from Mr. Obama.

Did Ayers point Obama in the direction of Chicago as a place to hone Obama's "organizing" skills?

Fox News also tried to search for Obama. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108881386721289.html
They had no luck either.

The fact that Obama has crated a void concerning his college years, after claiming in his own book he went to New York to study in an urban environment, makes me queasy. Did he find what he was looking for in New York? What did he find? Who did he find? Blank.

What is Obama hiding?

No major party nominee for the presidency has led a life with, pardon the expression, black holes at crucial points in his life. Why was Obama invisible at Columbia? What would his college transcripts show? Why are the mainstream media tiptoeing away from any searching

Posted by: wendyPrince | September 12, 2008 10:39 AM

McCain has "reinvented" himself as a change agent. Is it me or have they been running a copy-cat campaign on issues ever since this they jumped a sinking ship? Obama's position has always been about change, grassroots efforts, individual responsibility, serving the greater good and him being the inspirational facilitator in these efforts. Now we're hearing "change", "grassroots", "serving the greater good", "inspire your people", "improve education" etc., etc. So who's really leading this race?
Don't be fooled by this copy-cat usurper!!!

Posted by: Listenup | September 12, 2008 10:34 AM

still no one defends mccain shoving a women in a wheel chair.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:30 AM

The McCAIN /PALIN ticket is digusting. They are all image and no substance. Even McCAIN'S campaign manager has said " this campaign is not going to be about the issues"! What? Not about the issues facing MY country? Now I know their are a lot of "BEVERLY HILLBILLY TYPES" out there that will drink the cool aid. I am not one of them.If the neocons/republicons don't want to debate the issues facing my country, then they should get out of the race NOW! They are telling me to buy a "PIG IN A POKE",sight unseen,untested, and not guaranteed. This may sound attractive to JETRO BODINE AND ELLIE MAE, but this is an insult to my intelligence.How dumb can the american people be for falling for this foolishness. My vote will go to anybody BUT; McCAIN/PALIN and the neocons.

Posted by: zeke49 | September 12, 2008 10:24 AM

The technique of repeating a lie until it becomes the common wisdom is not unique to the current administration, but rarely has it been used so effectively. No wonder then that the McCain campaign should adopt the same tactic.

Bringing Governer Palin out of nowhere to become a running mate allowed McCain to shore up support among religious conservatives and also give the media a shiny new person to write about. Every reporter now has a chance to be the first to report some tidbit. How can they help but spend all their time reporting on her?

For her part, the Governer has been a quick study and done her best to follow the narrative being pushed by the McCain campaign. That includes the tactic of repeating the big lies. Every time I hear her repeat the "thanks, but no thanks" line, I cringe because I know she's lying through her lipstick.

Posted by: Wayne | September 12, 2008 10:22 AM

Just remember all of you who are too young to have seen the rise and fall of the German Third Reich and Hitlers Nazis. He promised change too and the world has never been the same. 50 Million people died in WWII. Obama cannot be trusted with the most powerful office in the world. His kind of change seems too much like history repeating itself...

Posted by: Excalibur | September 12, 2008 10:21 AM

vast majority of american people are ignorant or at best underinformed about the seriousness of the situation. Like the poster below that compared students grades getting redistributed to progressive taxation. If you didnt know, bush's "no child left behind" policy is doing what this guy is talking about. And in turn churning out highschool students not good for college. What this does is keeps the rich rich and churns out an army of blue collar population that is under educated and clings to religion and guns and racism..ideas like muslims are evil. Core of republican agenda. Creating an under educated susceptible army of ignorant majority ready to elect the next puppet president. Thats why they hate education and educated people.

The other side of this is how grades gets distributed to the rich failing students FROM the poor hardworking.. That is what republicans are doing by rescuing the wallstreet using the average americans tax money. Also that is what is being done when they fight wars using the lower class americans sons in the army to win contracts for the oil mughuls..

But ofcource mccain will win. That is why you need to make adjustments. May be save more, may be consider moving to another country.

The other

Posted by: iamiam | September 12, 2008 10:18 AM

"World is dangerous and these no brain fundamentalist ISLAMIC Terrorists are killing innocent people."


And what was a major part of the Bush-McCain response to 9-11 ?

Invade Iraq. A country that had nothing to do with 9-11.

You may still believe that Iraq was somehow involved in 9-11, believe the jive about mushroom clouds over Americans cities ignited by Saddam's nuclear weapons (what weapons ?), you may even believe the world is only 6,000 years old, as Palin does.

But you can take this to the bank (assuming your bank hasn't failed), a McCain WH means four more years of Bush. McCain admitted he supported Bush 90 % of the time, and his voting record is clear.

But then again, maybe this is what you want.

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 10:17 AM


JOHN MCCAIN LEADER OR MADMAN
YOU BE THE JUDGE.

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain arrived late at his Senate office on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just after the first plane hit the World Trade Center. “This is war,” he murmured to his aides. The sound of scrambling fighter planes rattled the windows, sending a tremor of panic through the room.


Erik Jacobs for The New York Times
John McCain said he had consulted Henry A. Kissinger on foreign policy before and after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Within hours, Mr. McCain, the Vietnam War hero and famed straight talker of the 2000 Republican primary, had taken on a new role: the leading advocate of taking the American retaliation against Al Qaeda far beyond Afghanistan. In a marathon of television and radio appearances, Mr. McCain recited a short list of other countries said to support terrorism, invariably including Iraq, Iran and Syria.

“There is a system out there or network, and that network is going to have to be attacked,” Mr. McCain said the next morning on ABC News. “It isn’t just Afghanistan,” he added, on MSNBC. “I don’t think if you got bin Laden tomorrow that the threat has disappeared,” he said on CBS, pointing toward other countries in the Middle East.

Within a month he made clear his priority. “Very obviously Iraq is the first country,” he declared on CNN. By Jan. 2, Mr. McCain was on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the Arabian Sea, yelling to a crowd of sailors and airmen: “Next up, Baghdad!”

Now, as Mr. McCain prepares to accept the Republican presidential nomination, his response to the attacks of Sept. 11 opens a window onto how he might approach the gravest responsibilities of a potential commander in chief. Like many, he immediately recalibrated his assessment of the unseen risks to America’s security. But he also began to suggest that he saw a new “opportunity” to deter other potential foes by punishing not only Al Qaeda but also Iraq.

“Just as Sept. 11 revolutionized our resolve to defeat our enemies, so has it brought into focus the opportunities we now have to secure and expand our freedom,” Mr. McCain told a NATO conference in Munich in early 2002, urging the Europeans to join what he portrayed as an all but certain assault on Saddam Hussein. “A better world is already emerging from the rubble.”

To his admirers, Mr. McCain’s tough response to Sept. 11 is at the heart of his appeal. They argue that he displayed the same decisiveness again last week in his swift calls to penalize Russia for its incursion into Georgia, in part by sending peacekeepers to police its border.

His critics charge that the emotion of Sept. 11 overwhelmed his former cool-eyed caution about deploying American troops without a clear national interest and a well-defined exit, turning him into a tool of the Bush administration in its push for a war to transform the region.

“He has the personality of a fighter pilot: when somebody stings you, you want to strike out,” said retired Gen. John H. Johns, a former friend and supporter of Mr. McCain who turned against him over the Iraq war. “Just like the American people, his reaction was: show me somebody to hit.”

Whether through ideology or instinct, though, Mr. McCain began making his case for invading Iraq to the public more than six months before the White House began to do the same. He drew on principles he learned growing up in a military family and on conclusions he formed as a prisoner in North Vietnam. He also returned to a conviction about “the common identity” of dangerous autocracies as far-flung as Serbia and North Korea that he had developed consulting with hawkish foreign policy thinkers to help sharpen the themes of his 2000 presidential campaign.

While pushing to take on Saddam Hussein, Mr. McCain also made arguments and statements that he may no longer wish to recall. He lauded the war planners he would later criticize, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney. (Mr. McCain even volunteered that he would have given the same job to Mr. Cheney.) He urged support for the later-discredited Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi’s opposition group, the Iraqi National Congress, and echoed some of its suspect accusations in the national media. And he advanced misleading assertions not only about Mr. Hussein’s supposed weapons programs but also about his possible ties to international terrorists, Al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks.

Five years after the invasion of Iraq, Mr. McCain’s supporters note that he became an early critic of the administration’s execution of the occupation, and they credit him with pushing the troop “surge” that helped bring stability. Mr. McCain, though, stands by his support for the war and expresses no regrets about his advocacy.

In written answers to questions, he blamed “Iraq’s opacity under Saddam” for any misleading remarks he made about the peril it posed.

The Sept. 11 attacks “demonstrated the grave threat posed by a hostile regime, possessing weapons of mass destruction, and with reported ties to terrorists,” Mr. McCain wrote in an e-mail message on Friday. Given Mr. Hussein’s history of pursuing illegal weapons and his avowed hostility to the United States, “his regime posed a threat we had to take seriously.” The attacks were still a reminder, Mr. McCain added, of the importance of international action “to prevent outlaw states — like Iran today — from developing weapons of mass destruction.”

Formative Years

Mr. McCain has been debating questions about the use of military force far longer than most. He grew up in a family that had sent a son to every American war since 1776, and international relations were a staple of the McCain family dinner table. Mr. McCain grew up listening to his father, Adm. John S. McCain Jr., deliver lectures on “The Four Ocean Navy and the Soviet Threat,” closing with a slide of an image he considered the ultimate factor in the balance of power: a soldier marching through a rice paddy with a rifle at his shoulder.

“To quote Sherman, war is all hell and we need to fight it out and get it over with and that is when the killing stops,” recalled Joe McCain, Senator McCain’s younger brother.

Vietnam, for Senator McCain, reinforced those lessons. He has often said he blamed the Johnson administration’s pause in bombing for prolonging the war, and he credited President Richard M. Nixon’s renewed attacks with securing his release from a North Vietnamese prison. He has made the principle that the exercise of military power sets the bargaining table for international relations a consistent theme of his career ever since, and in his 2002 memoir he wrote that one of his lifelong convictions was “the imperative that American power never retreat in response to an inferior adversary’s provocation.”


But Mr. McCain also took away from Vietnam a second, restraining lesson: the necessity for broad domestic support for any military action. For years he opposed a string of interventions — in Lebanon, Haiti, Somalia, and, for a time, the Balkans — on the grounds that the public would balk at the loss of life without clear national interests. “The Vietnam thing,” he recently said.

In the late 1990s, however, while he was beginning to consider his 2000 presidential race, he started rebalancing his view of the needs to project American strength and to sustain public support. The 1995 massacre of 5,000 unarmed Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica under NATO’s watch struck at his conscience, he has said, and in addition to America’s strategic national interests — in that case, the future and credibility of NATO — Mr. McCain began to speak more expansively about America’s moral obligations as the only remaining superpower.

His aides say he later described the American air strikes in Bosnia in 1996 and in Kosovo in 1999 as a parable of political leadership: Mr. McCain, Senator Bob Dole and others had rallied Congressional support for the strikes despite widespread public opposition, then watched approval soar after the intervention helped to bring peace.

“Americans elect their leaders to make these kinds of judgments,” Mr. McCain said in the e-mail message.

It was during the Balkan wars that Mr. McCain and his advisers read a 1997 article on the Wall Street Journal editorial page by William Kristol and David Brooks of The Weekly Standard — both now Op-Ed page columnists at The New York Times — promoting the idea of “national greatness” conservatism, defined by a more activist agenda at home and a more muscular role in the world.

“I wouldn’t call it a ‘eureka’ moment, but there was a sense that this is where we are headed and this is what we are trying to articulate and they have already done a lot of the work,” said John Weaver, a former McCain political adviser. “And, quite frankly, from a crass political point of view, we were in the making-friends business. The Weekly Standard represented a part of the primary electorate that we could get.”

Soon Mr. McCain and his aides were consulting regularly with the circle of hawkish foreign policy thinkers sometimes referred to as neoconservatives — including Mr. Kristol, Robert Kagan and Randy Scheunemann, a former aide to Mr. Dole who became a McCain campaign adviser — to develop the senator’s foreign policy ideas and instincts into the broad themes of a presidential campaign. (In his e-mail message, Mr. McCain noted that he had also consulted with friends like Henry A. Kissinger, known for a narrower view of American interests.)

One result was a series of speeches in which Mr. McCain called for “rogue state rollback.” He argued that disparate regional troublemakers, including Iraq, North Korea and Serbia, bore a common stamp: they were all autocracies. And as such, he contended, they were more likely to export terrorism, spread dangerous weapons, or start ethnic conflicts. In an early outline of what would become his initial response to the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. McCain argued that “swift and sure” retribution against any one of the rogue states was an essential deterrent to any of the others. But Mr. McCain’s advisers and aides say his “rogue state” speeches stopped short of the most sweeping international agenda put forth by Mr. Kristol, Mr. Kagan and their allies. Mr. McCain explicitly disavowed direct military action merely to advance American values, foreswearing any “global crusade” of interventions in favor of relying on covert and financial support for internal opposition groups.

As an example, he could point to his 1998 sponsorship of the Iraqi Liberation Act, which sought to direct nearly $100 million to Iraqis who hoped to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The bill, signed by President Bill Clinton, also endorsed the ouster of Mr. Hussein.

Mr. McCain said then that he doubted the United States could muster the political will to use ground troops to remove the Iraqi dictator any time soon. “It was much easier when Saddam Hussein was occupying Kuwait and threatening Saudi Arabia,” the senator told Fox News in November 1998. “We’d have to convince the American people that it’s worth again the sacrifice of American lives, because that would also be part of the price.”

Hard Calls

Mr. McCain spent the afternoon of Sept. 11 in a young aide’s studio apartment near the Capitol. There was no cable television, nothing but water in the kitchen, and the hallway reminded him of an old boxing gym. Evacuated from his office but stranded by traffic, he could not resist imagining himself at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. “There are not enough Secret Service agents in the world to keep me away from Washington and New York at a time like this,” Mr. McCain told an adviser.


Over the next days and weeks, however, Mr. McCain became almost as visible as he would have been as president. Broadcasters rushed to him as a patriotic icon and reassuring voice, and for weeks he was ubiquitous on the morning news programs, Sunday talk shows, cable news networks, and even late-night comedy shows.

In the spotlight, he pushed rogue state rollback one step further, arguing that the United States should go on the offensive as a warning to any other country that might condone such an attack. “These networks are well-embedded in some of these countries,” Mr. McCain said on Sept. 12, listing Iraq, Iran and Syria as potential targets of United States pressure. “We’re going to have to prove to them that we are very serious, and the price that they will pay will not only be for punishment but also deterrence.”

Although he had campaigned for President Bush during the 2000 general election, he was still largely frozen out of the White House because of animosities left over from the Republican primary. But after Mr. Bush declared he would hold responsible any country condoning terrorism, Mr. McCain called his leadership “magnificent” and his national security team the strongest “that has ever been assembled.” A few weeks later, Larry King of CNN asked whether he would have named Mr. Rumsfeld and Colin L. Powell to a McCain cabinet. “Oh, yes, and Cheney,” Mr. McCain answered, saying he, too, would have offered Mr. Cheney the vice presidency.

Even during the heat of the war in Afghanistan, Mr. McCain kept an eye on Iraq. To Jay Leno in mid-September, Mr. McCain said he believed “some other countries” had assisted Osama bin Laden, going on to suggest Iraq, Syria and Iran as potential suspects. In October 2001, when an Op-Ed page column in The New York Times speculated that Iraq, Russia or some other country might bear responsibility for that month’s anthrax mailings, Mr. McCain interrupted a question about Afghanistan from David Letterman on that night’s “Late Show.” “The second phase is Iraq,” Mr. McCain said, adding, “Some of this anthrax may — and I emphasize may — have come from Iraq.” (The Federal Bureau of Investigation says it came from a federal government laboratory in Maryland.) By October, United States and foreign intelligence agencies had said publicly that they doubted any cooperation between Mr. Hussein and Al Qaeda, noting Al Qaeda’s opposition to such secular nationalists. American intelligence officials soon declared that Mr. Hussein had not supported international terrorism for nearly a decade.

But when the Czech government said that before the attacks, one of the 9/11 hijackers had met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence official, Mr. McCain seized the report as something close to a smoking gun. “The evidence is very clear,” he said three days later, in an Oct. 29 television interview. (Intelligence agencies quickly cast doubt on the meeting.)

Frustrated by the dearth of American intelligence about Iraq, Mr. McCain’s aides say, he had long sought to learn as much as he could from Iraqi opposition figures in exile, including Mr. Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress. Over the years, Mr. McCain often urged support for the group, saying it had “significant support, in my view, inside Iraq.”

After Sept. 11, Mr. Chalabi’s group said an Iraqi emissary had once met with Osama bin Laden, and brought forward two Iraqi defectors who described terrorist training camps and biological weapons efforts. At times, Mr. McCain seemed to echo their accusations, citing the “two defectors” in a television interview and attesting to “credible reports of involvement between Iraqi administration officials, Iraqi officials and the terrorists.”

Growing Impatient

But United States intelligence officials had doubts about Mr. Chalabi at the time and have since discredited his group. In 2006, Mr. McCain acknowledged to The New Republic that he had been “too enamored with the I.N.C.” In his e-mail message, though, he said he never relied on the group for information about Iraq’s weapons program.

At a European security conference in February 2002, when the Bush administration still publicly maintained that it had made no decision about moving against Iraq, Mr. McCain described an invasion as all but certain. “A terrorist resides in Baghdad,” he said, adding, “A day of reckoning is approaching.”

Regime change in Iraq in addition to Afghanistan, he argued, would compel other sponsors of terrorism to mend their ways, “accomplishing by example what we would otherwise have to pursue through force of arms.”

Finally, as American troops massed in the Persian Gulf in early 2003, Mr. McCain grew impatient, his aides say, concerned that the White House was failing to act as the hot desert summer neared. Waiting, he warned in a speech in Washington, risked squandering the public and international support aroused by Sept. 11. “Does anyone really believe that the world’s will to contain Saddam won’t eventually collapse as utterly as it did in the 1990s?” Mr. McCain asked.

In retrospect, some of Mr. McCain’s critics now accuse him of looking for a pretext to justify the war. “McCain was hell-bent for leather: ‘Saddam Hussein is a bad guy, we have got to teach him, let’s send a message to the other people in the Middle East,’ ” said Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts.

But Mr. McCain, in his e-mail message, said the reason he had supported the war was the evolving threat from Mr. Hussein.

“I believe voters elect their leaders based on their experience and judgment — their ability to make hard calls, for instance, on matters of war and peace,” he wrote. “It’s important to get them right.”

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:10 AM

It's just amazing to me that the Christian faith can be used to bolster up the war effort. Just as the first and second world wars financially decimated the European powers and ended the brit empire, and Afghanistan, helped topple the USSR when returning troops realized they had been lied to and shelled their own parliament building. During all this the USA stood a pillar of strength and fairness against the USSR and their KGB who had a nasty habit of whisking people away in the middle of the night and interning them indefinitely without trial.

Now it seems we have become the bully on the block, and have sacrificed our own country and ideals for what?

I'm sure Osama Bin Laden is laughing his socks off and could never have guessed his act of terrorism would lead to us bankrupting our own country.

In the meantime I'm of to Walmart to but a loaf of bread which is three times more expensive than it was 4 years ago. Thank you republicans.

Posted by: Alex P | September 12, 2008 10:07 AM

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Posted by: McCainTheMILFHunter | September 12, 2008 10:05 AM

Obama is the true leader and I am so excited about him being in ticket.

Palin looks like a nonsense candidate.

Posted by: Rick | September 12, 2008 10:03 AM

RickK,

See my previous post. You'll find an explanation there. BTW, the Republican Party you're talking about doesn't exist and never has.

Posted by: SAm | September 12, 2008 10:01 AM

Thats absalutely true. Obama is flawed and muslim appeasing .We cannot trust him on national security which is the primary concern. rest comes next.

World is dangerous and these no brain fundamentalist ISLAMIC Terrorists are killing innocent people. We need a strong president to protect and and give the choice, I will pick McCain and Palin to keep us safe and secure in this country.

We cannot trust obama to fight against those crazy Islamic Fundamentalists.. He has too many radical islamic associations (Wright, Farrakhan, khalid-al-mansour, a radical muslim from saudi arabia who funded obama's harvard education.)

Posted by: jen | September 12, 2008 9:59 AM

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of
higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his .

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'

Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really
hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican party.'

If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears.

Posted by: Rick K | September 12, 2008 9:56 AM

Obama is a flawed candidate and untrustworthy based on what we already know about him.

Posted by: rick | September 12, 2008 9:55 AM

Consider John McCain’s position: his strongest supporters now hope that he drops dead soon after he makes it to the White House, so their REAL candidate can take over. A bit ironic for a man who wants to appear to be vigorous.

Posted by: listener | September 12, 2008 9:54 AM

Well, it's obvious that "linda' is either a complete moron or a Republican plant. Or both.

The problem, as I see it, is that by deliberately neglecting public schools standards - the republican code words for that policy have been "local control" and "choice" for the past 25 years or so - they've created two generations of barely literate idiots who are now all voting for Republicans and completely against their own interests. Republicans excel at presenting pre-gurgitated nonsense, in the flag and Jesus wrappers, to the ocean of ignorant schmucks out there. One isn't forced to think with the Republicans.

So, the problem is that there're far more "lindas" or nearly "lindas" out there than people capable of critical thinking.

Hence, I'm expecting McCain to win and am making appropriate adjustments.

Posted by: Sam | September 12, 2008 9:53 AM

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The Affair Palin supposedly had
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did she try to bann books?
http://www.veeppeek.com
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Todd Palins Wild DUI
http://www.duihelpguide.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 12, 2008 9:53 AM

FROM POLITIC -- OBAMA and email

Every presidential candidate can use a sexy blond movie star to liven up his or her campaign, appear at big money events and rally the entertainment community. Sen. Barack Obama’s go-to Hollywood hottie is Scarlett Johansson, a starlet who trades frequent e-mails with the presumptive Democratic nominee, campaigns tirelessly on his behalf, hosts lucrative fundraisers and even appeared in that “Yes We Can” viral video that got 10 million views in its first week online.


She e-mailed him after some of the Democratic debates, offering her thoughts on his messages and performance. “After the silliness of the last ABC debate,” she said of the highly criticized event co-hosted by Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos, she wrote to congratulate him on “holding his ground.”

His replies have been thoughtful, she said, more than a brief line or two; on the ABC debate, he responded that the questioning was “difficult” and he was being pounded on “one silly question after another.”

Johansson is somewhat shocked that he keeps up their back-and-forth correspondence. “You’d imagine that someone like the senator who is constantly traveling and constantly ‘on’ — how can he return these personal e-mails?” she asks. “But he does, and in his off-time I know he also calls people who have donated the minimum to thank them. Nobody sees it, nobody talks about it, but it’s incredible.” She adds, “I feel like I’m supporting someone, and having a personal dialogue with them, and it’s amazing.”

Posted by: Karen | September 12, 2008 9:52 AM

Once again Obama is waging a campaign based on attacking McCain and not the issues. Perhaps because he has no compaign platform?

Posted by: Lori | September 12, 2008 9:46 AM

"Senator McCain has called the news media "his base" because of the friendly treatment he has received. And he undoubtedly is counting on his "base" to overlook the gulf between his newly minted "change" message, and the realities of his record and campaign."

McCain has a point: the news media have been giving him a pass on the Vicki Iseman affair, for instance.

But his dishonorable ads do now seem to be arousing some of the media to view raw verbiage more carefully and inject words of caution to news consumers rather than let themselves be used as uncritical vessels conveying deceitful allegations.

Posted by: Buck TX Ind | September 12, 2008 9:43 AM

Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:14 AM said the following

let me get this right

record deficit
record unemployment
record foreclosures
increase in bank failures
record high gas prices
two wars
haven't found bin laden
haven't found weapons of mass destruction
hurricane katrina
bad infrastructure
bad foreign relations
americans make less money now then 8 years ago
number of people in poverty up

now for this the republicans like the heads of fannie mae and freddie mac want a bonus of 4 more years

Maybe that Obama will become president and have a 9/11 attack and two hurricanes and the republicans on all the new channels (backed by the media) telling how bad the president and the economy are. Not only the president's policies but him as a person. Then we would see how 'The Obama President' would do!!!

Posted by: Curly4 | September 12, 2008 9:39 AM

i'm still waiting for someone to defend mccains shoving a women in a wheelchair.

must be because he's a maverick

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:39 AM

Pastor 123 writes:

"I only care about her Values, and her judgement."


You value her judgement about Georgia pastor ? Risking war with Russia over that tiny nation ?

Do you think that Alaska's proximity to Russia makes Palin qualified to tackle foreign policy situations related to Russia ?

I live close to the Pacific ocean. Does that make me a marine biologist ?

You say she's "not from Washington". Does it bother you then that McCain, you remember McCain, that guy on top the ticket, has spent nearly 30 years in the US Congress ?

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 9:36 AM

no matter how you cut it mccain has shown himself to be the sleaze he is.

when you shove a woman in a wheelchair that is a sign of a person who may be mentally unbalanced

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:33 AM

Over 70 retired generals and admirals have endorsed Obama/Biden '08

Hope and Change backed by strength.

Democrats and Obamacans's courting all Republican and Independent Voters!

Our World!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

Obamacan's - “The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.” William F. Buckley, Jr. quote

The real change team for the last 19 months
Change we can believe in.

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | September 12, 2008 9:33 AM

You have to vote of all Americans. Not just your personal views or personal dislike. Some will not vote for Obama because he is Black, but those same racist worship a Jesus that is not a White Person, Jesus was also a minority. Yet you reverence him daily. Some said Jesus and his followers were crazy. I say i am my brothers keeper and if change doesn't start in community, with your neighbor, with your sister you see everyday. Then don't expect the world to change.

Posted by: James | September 12, 2008 9:33 AM

Do you really expect everybody to have a perfect background? Do YOU have a perfect background? You may counter with no, that's why I"m not running for president. But you should treat others how you want to be treated. Look at the big issues and how they can handle them. Both Palin and Obama have their faults, but who will lead our country when it really counts? Who will get us out of this debt and change our foreign policy the best?

Don't criticize others because you don't have any fruitful comments to make. Inform yourself on the ISSUES not the latest smear campaign or gossip!

Posted by: Doesn't Matter | September 12, 2008 9:30 AM

Look Obama can scream change all he wants but the truth is, Palin is more change then Obama is. She is not even from or of Washington. Look I could care less If Sarah Pain had an Affair Or if Sarah Palin is pregnant again These are just attacks., I only care about her Values, and her judgement. She is more change then Obama.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 12, 2008 9:28 AM

Obama :"A light will come down on you! you will have a ephipahy and you will say to yourself, I got to vot for Barackkkkkk"

Guess what? He looks exactly like his radical pastor Wright here. His old uncle.

Where is the light Obama? I haven't seen it in your campaign. Your background is also shady and dark. We really do not know you.

What a Nonsense this guy is!
Forget it! we are voting McCain this fall

Posted by: linda | September 12, 2008 9:25 AM

Oh, I left out unwed pregnant teen daughter, who apparently wasn't paying attention during the abstinence only lesson.

Palin can't control her kids, but she can run the country ?

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 9:21 AM

Forget not
Michelle obama "down right mean country. Thats america"

Can you explain that Obama?

Posted by: martha | September 12, 2008 9:21 AM

i think americans have lost their mind and soul.

to think seriously about mccain a dishonorable and ambitious man who has exploited his war efforts for personal gain

he is an embarassement to veterans who have gave their lives for this country.

stop falling for this phony country first foolishness.

its about mccain and his desire for power and glory.

Posted by: straighttalk | September 12, 2008 9:19 AM

The Palin "doctrine"

Hair up
Lipstick red
Skirt tight
Eye Glasses "fly"

Questions ?

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 9:19 AM

McCain is the embodiment of real change. Palin is a perfect example of reform and change for good in washington.

McCain and Palin are true american heros and mavricks.

Obama's change ?
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radical pastor wright.
anti-american michelle obama
radical farrakhan of Islam
radical black muslim khalid al mansour of soudi arabia who financed obama's harvard education.
convicted criminal rezko
Fraud mayor Kilpatrick whom obama calls "great mayor"
Terrorists Ayers and Dhorn.

I don't see any other change from Obama.

Posted by: linda | September 12, 2008 9:19 AM

Laura, I couldn't have said that better myself. Why aren't there more people who see through the smoke and mirror show to what is lying underneath?

Perhaps the root of all our problems lies in the fact that we prefer watching "reality TV" over real programming; after all, the more drama and "reality-ness" the McCain-Palin ticket employs, the more people they'll appeal to.

What a sad, unfortunate time we live in.

Posted by: Ashley | September 12, 2008 9:18 AM

let me get this right

record deficit
record unemployment
record foreclosures
increase in bank failures
record high gas prices
two wars
haven't found bin laden
haven't found weapons of mass destruction
hurricane katrina
bad infrastructure
bad foreign relations
americans make less money now then 8 years ago
number of people in poverty up

now for this the republicans like the heads of fannie mae and freddie mac want a bonus of 4 more years

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:14 AM

Surprise?

Democrats are brainless.

Posted by: tim | September 12, 2008 9:14 AM

I expect the next possible leader of the free world to say, "Excuse me, could you explain this term." instead of free-wheeling a baloney answer. Then she could have answered with some intelligence. Any leader on the international stage will not trust someone so obviously clueless and unable to say so.

Posted by: Smart shopper | September 12, 2008 9:13 AM

This is ridiculous. All presidents in the history used the word "Change" when they ran for president.
Obama, have you applied for the patent? If not, don't whine!
Let the others do the real change, not the empty change.
R U daydreaming, Obama?
"Words? Just words?" -- Yes!
Go home to whine to your wife!

Posted by: DC Resident | September 12, 2008 9:13 AM

I am waiting for republican adds to roll in next few days to show real obamas to americans.

Its going to be fun. They have not yet started the roll but Democrats are already in scrambles with bad strategic mistakes. It seems Obama's campaign advisors seems to be fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:12 AM

Obama already lost this thciet. have no doubt about it. We will see how republicans introduce the real obama to america. Democrats are already in a huzzle buzzle now scarmbling to handle the situation and continue to drop in polls.

Obama look stupid, arogant and clueless in the middle of all this:)

Posted by: jim | September 12, 2008 9:10 AM


From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/6lbfdv

Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Palinism: Politics as The Content-Free Violation of Expectation

What is Palinism?

What is it about?

What policies?

What ideas?

What positions?

Even in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, while no doubt many were motivated by regional partisanship, local prejudices, and "the measure" of the candidate, one suspects that at least a rough rendering of the issues--secession vs. Union, free vs. enslaved--was carried in and animated the crowds.

Now, it is pure reaction to pattern. To one impulse expectation--the bland suited form--violated by the provocation of another impulse: a novel one. Irrespective of qualifications--blind to them, the freedom of being purposely so-- the impulse simply feels new, gleeful, aggressive--it simply feels good.

We have reached the content-free phase of American politics.

A form, an image--glasses, hair, a voice, what it suggests--is enough. She could be speaking the words to the airport timetable, the swearing-in speech of Ferdinand Marcos, the ingredients of a
box of Sizzlean--the image, the sound, and the gathering impulse, the bare stirring from dull lack of novelty--is sufficient to awaken the crowds to angry perturbance at...the stimulus to be perturbed, and the bare sense of actual directed action and purpose that comes with doing so.

Palin herself wears a glazed, slightly confused look in her eyes--bewildered at what it is that has unleashed this roar, this approbation. Being used to herself, and having been among those who are well used to her, she is unaware of the novelty that her mere form releases in the dazed electorate, yearning for a pretext for expression. Soon, she'll believe it herself.

And, after all, isn't that what democracy is all about? The ability to choose to decide without knowledge? Better yet, to choose your knowledge, irrespective of fact, in correspondence with the liberating, confirmation-free impulse?

This is what today's moment stands for.

These are our satisfactions and securities in this golden age.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/6lbfdv

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 12, 2008 9:10 AM

Forcast : Unending Wars of McCain-palin

Dear concerned citizens of America and mass media of the U.S.A.

As a concerned disabled American Veteran and American citizen, I consider it my duty and responsibility to address the following critical issues facing the voters of our Greatgrand nation, the United States of America [USA].

The citizens of the United States of America [USA] have the ultimate power and responsibility to elect the Right Ticket with the right joint "temperament, judgement, and statesmanship" to lead our nation as well as change our nation's present and future moral, political, economic, educational, health care, energy, military, and foundational soul.
In my firm professional, personal, and political opinion, the media should help the common voter to explore and discuss the following attributes of the present Republican and Democratic presidential slates:
1. Does the joint ticket have a calm, cool, and collected " temper and impulse" [Presidential Temperament]?
2. Does each ticket have sound and sustained "Judgment and Caliber"?
3. Does each ticket have a "presidential depth and degree" in regard to their purpose, policies, and positions?
4. Does each ticket have adequate, "understanding and knowledge" of workings around Washington"?
5. Does each ticket have enough "vigor, wisdom and Vision" for the future of our beloved Great-grand Nation?
6. Does each ticket possess enough joint foreign policy experience and exposure based on "American Values, Virtues, Vastness, and strong soul"?
7. Are their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsivity? [Danger to country and countries mission[s].
8. Does the ticket keep country or politics first? [McCain stole Obama's change and is running with it.]

As a Independent registered voter I have decided to vote for the Obama-Biden ticket. I am sure they will protect our national security, strengths, stamina and soul as well as rebuild our nation from the bottom up in all areas of need. The OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will restore our global standing with the use of maximum, firm international diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated.

Yours sincerely,

COL. A.M. Khajawall [Ret] MD., Forensic psychiatrist, Colonel, US-AR / MC Combat Stress Control[Ret], Disabled American Veteran and Iraq Freedom team.
PS: This nation will not buy into the kitchen sink strategy. We are getting deeper into internal and external holes through these attacks and the world is laughing at us as they enjoy our partisan Pitt Bull wounds. I am sure the collective deceptive measures of the GOP, RNC, FOX, RUSH, ROVE, McCain, and his surrogates will fail to deprive American voters of their deserved leadership. Media stop cultural divide, distraction's, and possible war. It is critically against USA internal and external challenges. Media play fair and do not trivialize or personalize this election. Stakes are too high and we need to address issues without getting too emotional about personalizes. Correct the incorrect and provide voters information accurately, fairly, and in balanced. Do not allow sexism, racism, and religion become part of discussion. Stay with the facts and address the issues.

Posted by: COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] | September 12, 2008 9:08 AM

Guess what? Remember the words of Rudy guliani? He suggested Biden to get it in writing :)

If Obama picks hillary and drop invisible Biden, His bad judgement will be questioned again and that will go into history as well.

Posted by: james | September 12, 2008 9:07 AM

"Believe me, Gov. Palin is on track to do well in her debate with Senator Biden and to be ready to serve as VP in January. Sorry ,Charlie."


I hate to digress, but I don't believe you. Palin was obviously well coached, repeated her scripted lines reasonably well, but do you think for one second McCain truts this woman, or values her insight about anything ?

60 + years after the end of WW 2, decades of detente with Russia, a country you'll recall is still bristing with ICBMs that carry ordinance in the megaton range, and she wants to risk vaporizing our nation over Georgia, a country of 4 million people that has had a long history of enmity with mother Russia.

She's being used as a political prop to win an election......it may turn out to be smart politics if McCain wins.

But the GOP will worry about the "what if", if McCain wins and God forbid, he dies in office.

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 9:07 AM

"Clearly she exposed her pitfalls, no doubt about it. But Charlie was no better either."
--Posted by: sammysouth

Oh clueless one, CHARLIE isn't running for VP! More illogical justifications from the right. Do you even know what day it is?

Posted by: Smart shopper | September 12, 2008 9:06 AM

Palin is the true leader and I am so excited about her being in ticket.

Obama looks like a nonsense candidate.

Posted by: rachel | September 12, 2008 9:05 AM

I love the way she handled the questions. She nailed it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:03 AM

When conservatives call liberals elitists I take as a complement. What they are really saying is conservatives are low class, ignorant, uncultured, backward thinking dumb-dumbs. Hahahaha.

Posted by: Sue | September 12, 2008 8:46 AM


who die so you and obama can make fun of them.

Posted by: dale | September 12, 2008 8:59 AM

Barack Obama has never had the kind of direct scrutiny that Sarah Palin sailed through with such grace. Every single time anyone has directly confronted him he has wilted. He has no spine and no stomach for the job. He seems like a nice professor but a very sad child. The community he should organize is the one inside of him because it is confused and hurt and attention seeking. He is too immature for the job and everyone knows it, which is why we are "being nice to the black man." Again, no real scrutiny because we know he would cry. Not because he is a black man (though he plays that card like a champ) but because he is an infant.

Posted by: Luke | September 12, 2008 8:58 AM

Obama did a tough interview with Bill O'Reilly. O'Reilly in fact has a new respect for Obama, despite his disagreements. Also, OBAMA WRITES HIS OWN SPEECHES, at least the major ones, such as at Convention '08 and the speech on race.

Palin read a speech at Convention '08 prepared for her by other people, and has only interviewed with a relatively benign media elite.

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Posted by: Etherspirit | September 12, 2008 8:57 AM

prediction: He will drop Biden and adopt Hillary as VP in hopes of winning. This will destroy him if he does this. He will be viewed as indecisive and unable to stick to choices. But then again he is the candidate of change.

Posted by: Kevoh | September 12, 2008 8:56 AM

we on the republican side love the message obama.

CHANGE your political tactics every other day

CHANGE your political stances on issues even tho your record reflects a purely liberal stance.

CHANGE the value of rezko's campaign contributions each time they catch you with more.

CHANGE your religious beliefs when your pastors extremist ways get caught.

CHANGE what you really want to change in the white house from reform to partisan pandering.

CHANGE your idea of "new politics" by picking an "old politician".

CHANGE your mind as to whether you were picking on sarah palin or not.

CHANGE from a self righteous non mudslinging campaign to the worst one.

and most of all HOPE that you don't have to CHANGE anything else.

i tell you what, the republicans could just ride it out from here, and watch you bury yourself.

thanks obama, but you can keep the CHANGE your gonna need it on the streets.

Posted by: dale | September 12, 2008 8:56 AM

Posted by: Chris | September 12, 2008 8:55 AM

Clearly she exposed her pitfalls, no doubt about it. But Charlie was no better either. He was very astute and shrewd in the questioning, absolutely in a "gotcha" attitude. She was clearly approaching him with too much fear and trepidations that did her downfall. I truly pity her position.
However, this does not excuse her. By now she must have realized her folly in not rejecting McCain's lucrative offer. And McCain has proved his judgmental values as just bashful once again.

Posted by: sammysouth | September 12, 2008 8:52 AM

Palin: I have not, and I think that if you go back in history, and ask that question of many Vice Presidents they have the same answer that I just gave you.

Anderson Cooper: Bay, ABC News just did a fact check. They looked back the last 30 years, all Vice Presidents have met a foreign leader. Does that matter?

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To tell the truth, I don't see this as a really big weakness for Palin, although it was stupid of her to ask the question 'is that different than other VP candidates?' without knowing the answer ahead of time. That just makes you fact check fodder.

But it is a good point that she says it like it's a good thing. When you couple this statement with her initial assertion that she didn't blink when accepting the nomination and that she was ready to be president, it is very, very Bush-like. Overconfident and arrogant. We do not need another puffed up leader with extreme ideology. That really would be Bush '08.

Posted by: Joe | September 12, 2008 8:52 AM

Poor Charlie Gibson. He had to look so tough talking to Gov. Palin after the thrashing he and George Stephanopolis took on their softball, sleaze questioning during one of the last democratic primary debates. Sure,go after her one weak area on prime time just to make her look bad. Charlie, its rude to ask a question you already know the answer to. Believe me, Gov. Palin is on track to do well in her debate with Senator Biden and to be ready to serve as VP in January. Sorry ,Charlie.

Posted by: political junkie | September 12, 2008 8:50 AM

This VP pick went from very bad move to brilliant move, back to very bad move all in about ten days. Did anyone really think this idiot could pull it off? The debate should be a hoot.

Posted by: JK | September 12, 2008 8:50 AM

what a shame. I feel like I am temporarily in a country like Zimbabway. Hope the election is over soon and I get back to America.

Posted by: jim | September 12, 2008 8:47 AM

When conservatives call liberals elitists I take as a complement. What they are really saying is conservatives are low class, ignorant, uncultured, backward thinking dumb-dumbs. Hahahaha.

Posted by: Sue | September 12, 2008 8:46 AM

After watching the disgraceful performance by Paliin yesterday, I say that any reporter, columnist, news anchor, or any other media member who does not tell the truth about this fraud should be barred from practicing his or her profession. Can you think of anything more dangerous to our wonderful country than electing someone as ignorant about world events as Palin is and giving her the power to push the wrong button? What if she woke up some morning and said that God had told her in her dreams that she should bomb Iran, or North Korea, or Russia?

Posted by: formerrepublican | September 12, 2008 8:46 AM

With Carl Rove involved the slime & lies never stop.....McCain is desparate....

Posted by: corinne murphy | September 12, 2008 8:45 AM

"If you lie and lie well enough, and do it with concerted effort and also staring down the "liberal media" ["tell the truth, tell the truth"], the average Joe Six Packs has NO PROBLEM accepting it!"\


Is McCain even lying well ? A ten minute internet search usually debunks 90 % of what he's claiming about Obama.

But your point is well taken. Will it matter.

McCain's ads are juvenile, filled with inaccuracies, dumbed down for the American idol crowd, and all of them end up refering to McCain's time as a POW, or the nasty Dems and their liberal media allies attacking "divine" Sarah.

Bottom line, if Americans are gullible enough to put a guy in the WH who admitted publicly he supported Bush 90 % of the time, then we deserve to be governed by the same crowd (and it will be the same Republican retreads) that has us in the current mess we're in.

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 8:45 AM

John McCain is a sell-out and exposed he is just a typical Republican politician by picking Palin. He picked her to appease his base, poach Hillary votes and stoke a class divide. Palin wasn’t the best or most qualified, it’s because he knew she would be a draw to small town America whom they are duping (Sara Palin ain’t like you, folks).

How is this being a "maverick"? How is it ‘Country First”? How is this “I rather win a war than loose an election”? I’ll say it again, John McCain is a sell-out. Obama said it pretty accurately too - Lipstick on a pig, is still a pig.

The most important metric for picking a VP is they are ready to step in from day one. His judgment is reckless and he gambled at our expense. The mere fact Palin is being educated on foreign policy and is avoiding the press indicates she wasn’t prepared on day one. She is running for the second highest office, but can’t answer questions from the press or public? This doesn’t alarm anyone?

I lost all my respect for John McCain. He's not the hero today he was 35 years ago. McCain is nothing without Palin.

What does it say about a campaign that has to "mimic" what and whom Obama is, not to mention hijack Obamas core message of Change from day one just to poach votes? Is that all they view Obama as, a "product" a "formula", a “personality”? It makes McCain look weak and more importantly, the American people stupid if they fall for it.

Now all these puppets are willing to just get behind her without even knowing anything about her and try to convince the American public she is prepared to be VP or President? Not even uncertain objectiveness, caution, pause or question just because she has an "R" in front of her name? How can anyone make a honest, clear determination reasonably in less than 60 days?

Bravo America! We look like complete idiots once again while the world watches. I am truly embarrassed of my country. I guess all isn’t lost, at least many will have Palin’s eye glass frames while our country crumbles economically. We are such tools.

British Prime Minister Backs Obama
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2008/09/brown-backs-oba.html


World wants Obama
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world


Posted by: Laura | September 12, 2008 8:45 AM

Like charity, Change begins at home and for Obama that means Illinois. However, he ducked a plea Thursday to use his influence to safeguard landmark state legislation barring big government contractors from making campaign contributions.
Obama will bring change to Washington, just like the kind he learned in Chicago- dirty and unethical.
Change we can believe in - NOT.
Change is only good for Obama when it puts "Change" in his pocket.

Source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1159383,CST-NWS-leg12web.article

Posted by: michele | September 12, 2008 8:42 AM

I'm voting for Biden and Barack.

Posted by: Mike | September 12, 2008 8:32 AM

I watched her interview and she was 10x better than Obama is without a teleprompter. Her answers were much better than Obama's at Saddleback. I had confidence in Obama up until he wasn't reading from prepared speaches. Palin did well in her interview. She didn't make any major gaffes like Biden did when he asked Chuck Graham to "stand up" this week. Sadly, we overlooked Hillary and put this inexperienced slimy Chicago lawyer in front of America. It was ours to lose and we did a great job of it. I'm not voting for Obama this fall. Even if he quit and it was just Biden.. give me a break.

Posted by: Michael | September 12, 2008 8:32 AM

My question is:

Why are these slow-witted "centrist Democrats" are ALWAYS on the response mode?

Don't they know an offense in politics is better, more effective.

The average beer drinking American is NOT that smart, really!

If you lie and lie well enough, and do it with concerted effort and also staring down the "liberal media" ["tell the truth, tell the truth"], the average Joe Six Packs has NO PROBLEM accepting it!

But, oh, no, these "centrist Democrats" are always wait until the clever and calculated GOD party do enough damage, THEN they say, "We are not gonna take it lying down"!

LOL

This is why as a Liberal I say, NO MORE donations to these silly weak-spinned Democrats!

Posted by: Her Lao | September 12, 2008 8:31 AM

So Palin-McCain are doing their own doubling down.

Doubling down on dumb.

Who wants some smarty pants in the VP's office when they can have super Sarah. She slices, she dices, juggles her five kids and her hair, all before ten AM and her face to face with some world leader.

Two things are apparent. McCain has no intention of consulting this woman on anything if he ends up in the WH, except maybe the time of day, and the McCain camp is betting on voters who "feel" when they vote as opposed to those who think before they vote.

Posted by: MA | September 12, 2008 8:31 AM

Why is left to the pundits to decide what is proper experience? Gibson definite had an ax to grind as do all journalist because they cannot keep their feelings out of their writings and questions. Most have never done a days work and have therefore no value for of what it takes and why most conservatives are in the trenches. With good reason they do not understand the lefts drive for entitlements and redistribution of their labor! I digress. The constitution does not set done a list of prerequisites for any position but age and in the case of the president citizenship. Let the people decide without the help of the self appointed press.

Posted by: bob | September 12, 2008 8:28 AM

I watched that video. Wow. She doesn't understand what the Bush doctrine is. Then it takes 45 words for her to explain that her answer is "yes" to the question, "do we have the right to invade pakastan without pakastan's permission in order to catch terrorists."

Posted by: Tim | September 12, 2008 8:22 AM

The Palin Farce is Over

Watch the video. I guarantee you that half of the GOP elite (those who love their families and/or have a conscience) just realized that even they can’t vote for McCain now. It is simply too dangerous for our country. This video is terrifying.

The theatrics that worked so well in her convention speech (the fist, the jutting jaw) look ridiculous and amateurish speaking to Charlie Gibson. She clearly has no idea what she’s talking about and doesn’t even have a talking point to refer to. Beyond the sheer cringe inducing embarrassment (I had to stop watching it three times), it is the most terrifying thing I have seen in this entire campaign. This woman shouldn’t be anywhere near a position of global power. Period.

She should drop out for the good of the country.

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/09/11/the-sarah-palin-farce-is-over/

Posted by: ES | September 12, 2008 7:59 AM


From:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/second-time-as-farce-how-palin-is.html


Friday, September 12, 2008

Second Time As Farce: How Palin is Exactly Like Bush, Part 2

From Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson:

Palin: "Our national leaders are sending them on a task that is from God"

Gibson: Are we fighting a holy war?

Palin: (looking strained, desperate, trapped): The reference there is from Abraham Lincoln who said "Never presume to know God's will..."

Robert Zimmerman: She failed to describe how a McCain/Palin foreign policy would differ from a Bush foreign policy...

Gibson: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

Palin: I have not, and I think that if you go back in history, and ask that question of many Vice Presidents they have the same answer that I just gave you.

Anderson Cooper: Bay, ABC News just did a fact check. They looked back the last 30 years, all Vice Presidents have met a foreign leader. Does that matter?

Bay Buchanan: No, it doesn't at all. Her answer was excellent. It will make Americans feel that much closer to her. She's very real. Sure, she hasn't traveled overseas to meet these foreign leaders. But that's not what American's are looking for. She's absolutely correct. They want somebody that they can relate to. Who's hearing them. They're sick and tired of those people in Washington who may know lots of facts and figures and meet lots of people...

Zimmerman: It's always a danger when we have leaders who know facts and figures, Bay. That really does get in the way of setting up sound policies...My concern, Bay, is that when Sarah Palin says that she's not met foreign leaders like that's a good thing--We made that mistake eight years ago when George W. Bush was that likable guy that you wanted to invite over for a barbeque.

Cite:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/second-time-as-farce-how-palin-is.html

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