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A Big Rally and Talk of Economy as Obama Visits N.H.

By Jonathan Weisman
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Sen. Barack Obama took his newly aggressive campaign against Republican opponent Sen. John McCain to an open-air rally here, castigating the senator from Arizona as a Johnny-come-lately to the cause of change and imploring about 8,000 Granite State citizens not to be distracted by the GOP's barrage of negative attacks.

"The McCain-Palin ticket, they don't want to debate the Obama-Biden ticket on the issues because they're running on eight more years," he said, beneath a sunny September sky. "They will try to distort my record, and they will try to undermine your trust in what the Democrats want to do.... But the times are too serious for those strategies to work this time."

After a long series of more intimate events in workplaces and high school gyms, the Manchester rally saw the campaign returning to a large-crowd format. The McCain campaign has castigated such populous gatherings as mere "celebrity" worship, but also adopted the model since the addition of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to the ticket gave his campaign new energy.

The Obama rally was dialed down a notch in light of Hurricane Ike ravaging Texas, with the campaign scrapping an appearance by vice presidential running mate Sen. Joseph Biden and Obama opening with an appeal for the Red Cross and to help the victims of Ike.

"During difficult times, during moments of tragedy, the American people come together," he said.

But Obama quickly pivoted to a more aggressive stump speech focused squarely on the struggling economy, saying "there are a lot of quiet storms going on all across America," in the form of job losses, spiraling health care and college costs and schools that are "underfunded and uninspired."

"People are concerned not just for their immediate well-being, but they're concerned about what happened to that promise, what happened to that dream? Are we going to be the first generation that passes on a country that is a little less prosperous, a little less unified and a little meaner than the last generation?" he said, repeating the phrase that has become the theme of his campaign since the Democratic convention. "We are here to say, 'Enough is enough.'"

As he spoke, the Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee officially unveiled a campaign commercial that had begun running yesterday in swing states, castigating McCain as a tool of Washington lobbyists. "His campaign manager lobbies for corporations outsourcing American jobs," the add states, flashing an image of McCain with his campaign manager, Rick Davis. "The campaign chairman he picked last year ... a bank lobbyist," it continues, with an image of McCain and former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm. "If seven of McCain's top advisers are lobbyists, who do you think will run his White House?" the ad asks.

Tucker Bounds, a spokesman McCain-Palin 2008, quickly retorted in a post-rally statement: "It says a lot about Barack Obama's judgment that while his campaign canceled his appearance on Saturday Night Live and his running mate stayed home, Obama went ahead and delivered a series of scathing personal attacks. Today's attacks mark a new low from Barack Obama."

The Obama campaign couldn't let that pass, and Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton issued a statement of his own. "We will take no lectures from John McCain who is cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern Presidential campaign history," he said in an e-mail. "His discredited ads with disgusting lies are running all over the country today. He runs a campaign not worthy of the office his is seeking."

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Watching this election (after the last 2)is like watching some rube getting repeatedly fleeced at 3-card monty. Normally, I wouldn't care, but the money and future being so carelessly tossed away by these rubes is all of ours. Get a clue people.

Posted by: joebewildered | September 16, 2008 3:12 PM

RCP ELECTORAL MAP 9/14/08

Obama/Biden 207
157 Solid 50 Leaning

McCain/Palin 227
172 Solid 55 Leaning
Toss Up 104
104 Toss Up


State-by-State Changes

Electoral Count RCP National Avg.

09/14 Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up Obama 207 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

09/13 Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain Obama 217 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

09/11 Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5

09/11 North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5

09/11 Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5


09/14 Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up Obama 207 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

Sunday Sept 14
Minnesota Star Tribune
Obama 45, McCain 45 Tie

Saturday 9/13
Nevada Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3

Friday 9/12
Missouri Rasmussen McCain 51, Obama 46
McCain +5
Ohio Univ. of Cinci McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4 Florida Quinnipiac McCain 50, Obama 43 McCain +7
Virginia SurveyUSA McCain 49, Obama 47 McCain +2

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 11:10 AM

phil. not really sure what research you used to think dem's provide better economic times ? i'd be interested to see that. it generally is the case the when the numbers are up for the dems in the economy that something is dirty, witness the dotcom crazy that left for us to clean up after Slick Willy turned a blind eye SEC. Dem's set up Fannie and Freddie and now we're all going to get to pay for that

and here is how Brother Obama, Mr. No earmark, trust with your money, and 'im just being a good neighbor' uses your money

This is the pot calling the kettle for sure. Earlier this week, Obama made an early attempt to attack Governor Sarah Palin on the earmark issue. He claimed that Palin is responsible for taking many earmarked funds for her state as she sat in the Governor’s office in Juneau and that her attack on him for earmarks is, therefore, illegitimate.

“I know the governor of Alaska has been, you know, saying she is change and that is great. She is a skillful politician. But when you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person. That is not change, come on. I mean, words mean something. You can’t just make stuff up. You can’t just make stuff up. We have a choice to make and the choice is clear.”
But, this return fire on Palin’s ridiculing of Obama for his many earmarks is not very effective. While Obama is pointing fingers at Palin, news came out this week that Senator Obama had unsuccessfully tried several times to get multi-million dollar earmarks for one of his biggest Chicago contributors. So, his attack on Palin seems more like smokescreen than cruise missile.

Obama twice attempted to direct more than $3 million dollars in taxpayer funds to the Adler Planitarium Museum in Chicago. It just so happens that the Adler’s chairman is one of Barack’s biggest Chicago fundraisers.

The planetarium’s chairman, then and still, is Frank Clark, chief executive of ComEd, a unit of Chicago-based Exelon Energy. He has pledged to raise more than $200,000 for Mr. Obama’s run for the White House.
Even more cozy, this earmark would have benefited a Joe Biden supporter.

Moreover, the Adler Planetarium is represented by the lobbying firm National Group LLP, co-founded by William Oldaker, who helped launch Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s political action committee in 2005. Mr. Oldaker, a partner with the Delaware Democrat’s son in another Washington lobbying and law firm, is no longer involved with Mr. Biden’s PAC, Unite Our States.
On the other hand, it must be pointed out that taking earmarked funds that someone else arranged for is a little different than actually being the one creating the diversion of funds. Obama criticizes Palin for taking funds that Congress offered her, but Obama is responsible for being one doing the offering.

Palin’s record on reform is clear, of course. But, Obama’s record on over spending is also clear. His finger pointing is hollow rhetoric.

Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 14, 2008 10:37 AM

What the hell does Obama Know about a 1st World Economy?

God Damn the Plargarism Ticket!

Posted by: Noone | September 14, 2008 10:12 AM

I will NEVER take a knee/bullet for Obamus. McCain on the other hand, I would bow to him, as he is my King.

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCON! | September 14, 2008 10:10 AM

Well thats good because McBush doesnt even believe there is a problem with the economy, I guess he thinks everyone have a couple hundred million in the bank like he does.

Jiff
www.anonymize.us.tc

Posted by: Jiff WOods | September 14, 2008 7:46 AM

Sen. Clinton's Former Chief Strategist on Palin and the Media-

CBS News 9/12/08

CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. And that's going to subject them to people concluding that they're giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, "Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time."

What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.
**********

Keep it up- the Independents are watching-

September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of IndependentsMajority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%USA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.


By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters' general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive.


Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 7:08 AM

To Laughing at Dems:
So you would prefer to continue the course we are on of spending money we dont have? This is far worse then a restructure of the tax code, and people should really be wondering who is going to be paying for more war if McCain gets elected. And currently the middle class (50,000 to 150,000 per year) carry the largest share of income/taxes. The number of people earning 250,000 and up who pay NOTHING in yearly taxes has steadily increased with a huge spike over this last tax season.
People who are in the highest income brackets pay the least percentage of their taxes: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece.

Personally, I would eliminate the IRS altogether, implement a state taxation for federal spending gathered as the states see fit, eliminate most federal programs, and get back to the constitution, but you know, good luck with that. In the meantime, I dont want to be seen as the big jackass on the planet, and I am not interested in supporting a ever expanding industrial military complex, and larger foreign debt. McCain is the wrong choice. Obama is the only option. Besides, our economy always does better under a Democrat, so even with a different tax structure we are ALL better off.

Posted by: Phil | September 14, 2008 2:57 AM

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/14/seeing_through_obamanomics/

ALL THROUGH the spring and summer, opinion polls tracked a growing confidence that Barack Obama could handle the economy better than John McCain. Just before the Democratic convention in August, Gallup had Obama leading McCain on the economy, 54-38 - a 16-point margin. But now Obama's lead has nearly vanished. Gallup's latest numbers show the candidates nearly tied. Just 48 percent say Obama would be more adept at superintending the economy; 45 percent choose McCain.

Looks like voters have started paying attention to Obama's economics. On Sept. 8, Fox News broadcast an interview between Obama and Bill O'Reilly that focused on taxation and the economy. Obama repeated his pledge to cut taxes for 95 percent of Americans, while raising taxes on the tiny fraction who earn more than $250,000.

"That's class warfare," O'Reilly objected. "You're taking the wealthy in America, the big earners . . . you're taking money away from them and you're giving it to people who don't. That's called income redistribution. It's a socialist tenet. Come on, you know that."

"Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill," Obama replied. "Teddy Roosevelt supported a progressive income tax." He acknowledged that he doesn't enjoy paying taxes either - "you think I like writing the check?" - but that "there are certain things we've got to do." His tax proposal, he explained, was a matter of civility:

"If I am sitting pretty and you've got a waitress who is making minimum wage plus tips, and I can afford it and she can't, what's the big deal for me to say, I'm going to pay a little bit more? That's neighborliness." If that is Obama's rationale for making the tax code even more steeply progressive than it already is, it's no wonder voters are having second thoughts about his economic aptitude.

"Neighborliness." Perhaps that word has a nonstandard meaning to someone whose home adjoins the property of convicted swindler Tony Rezko, but extracting money by force from someone who earned it in order to give it to someone who didn't is not usually spoken of as neighborly. If Citizen Obama, "sitting pretty," reaches into his own pocket and helps out the waitress with a large tip, he has shown a neighborly spirit. But there is nothing neighborly about using the tax code to compel someone else to pay the waitress that tip.

Taxation is not generosity, it is confiscation at gunpoint. Does Obama not understand the difference?

Perhaps he doesn't. Eager though he may be to compel "neighborliness" in others, he has not been nearly so avid about demonstrating it himself. Barack and Michelle Obama's tax returns show that from 2000 through 2004, when their adjusted gross income averaged nearly a quarter of a million dollars a year, their annual charitable donations amounted to just $2,154 - less than nine-tenths of 1 percent. Not until he entered the US Senate in 2005 and began to be spoken of as a presidential possibility did the Obamas' "neighborliness" become more evident. (In 2005-2007, they gave 5.5 percent of their income to charity.)

Obama claims his proposal would lower taxes for 95 percent of Americans, but well over 43 million tax returns, one-third of all those filed, already reflect an income tax liability of zero. In fact, Obama says, his plan would eliminate income taxes for an additional 10 million taxpayers. What he is really proposing, therefore, is not tax relief but a bald transfer of cash - $1,000 per family, he pledges - from the wealthiest Americans to everyone else. In 1972, George McGovern advocated something similar - a $1,000 "demogrant" for every US citizen. Just last year, Hillary Clinton suggested that the government start off every new baby with a $5,000 savings account. Voters didn't take the bait when McGovern and Clinton offered it. Here's betting they won't take it now.

Why not? Because you don't have to be rich to be skeptical when a candidate argues that the top 1 percent of taxpayers, who already pay 40 percent of federal income taxes, aren't being taxed enough. You don't have to be an economist to wonder about the grasp of a nominee who tells 95 percent of the public that they can have something for nothing. Obamanomics may look pretty at first glance. But voters are focusing more closely now, and they can see beyond the lipstick.

Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 14, 2008 2:30 AM

Vote Third Party

Posted by: Ofer Nave | September 14, 2008 2:17 AM

Keep fighting for us, Senator Obama. We need someone who can restore dignity to the White House. No more LIARS.

Posted by: Zach | September 14, 2008 2:04 AM


It was natural for Obama to focus on Palin: he is her true match. Why doesn't he let Biden deal with McCain? Only they are well-matched and worth hearing from.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 14, 2008 1:56 AM

...When this whole primary season McCain is beating the war drums indiscriminately "My friends their will be more wars."... McCain himself says will be "World War 3."
Posted by: lemonashes | September 14, 2008 12:44 AM

Dude - America is way overpopulated, a good old fashioned set of wars is just what we need.

Palin/McCain

Posted by: T-Prop | September 14, 2008 1:18 AM

Oh Mike it is McCain who I find is the most terrifying at the moment. And Obama didn't choose his own name at birth you idiot.

When Pat Buchanan says :McCain will make Cheney look like Ghandi" it haunts and terrifies me. When this whole primary season McCain is beating the war drums indiscriminately "My friends their will be more wars." McCain has called for a re-instatement of the draft. Palin in her first interview antagonizes other World leaders to usher in what McCain himself says will be "World War 3." So you would have us ignore all that and think Obama's middle name should terrify us? Are you nuts? You go ahead Mike vote McCain/Palin the WAR LORDS and tell your children and grandchildren why they have to be drafted to fight for the new WAR LORDS McCain/Palin because the black guy had a middle name given to him by both his white and black parents at birth that you didn't approve of. Go ahead Mike vote against the future of your own children and grandchildren because of a name the WAR LORDS McCain/Palin are counting on it.

Posted by: lemonashes | September 14, 2008 12:44 AM

Does Biden Have A Catholic Problem?
Time Magazine 9/13/08

"...Within days, Cardinal Justin Rigali, who heads the USCCB committee on pro-life activities, and Bishop William Lori, who chairs the committee on doctrine, drafted a statement outlining Biden's theological errors that was released on behalf of the entire bishops conference — a rebuke not even Kerry received in 2004."

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 12:36 AM

McCain used this Townhall excuse as to why McCain's campaign went so negative and nasty. What? yea and 2+2 Not 4. McCain's little Townhalls that he wanted Obama to attend would have been full of ROVIAN REPUBLICANS asking the questions of both candidates and then every answer Obama would have given would have been used against him. So Obama declining shows smart politics not falling for that trap.

But why does McCain insist that Obama's unwillingness to do MCCain's Townhall meetings as the excuse for McCain's campaign becoming so nasty and negative shows McCain's desparation. McCain has relatively no practice debating on stage with Obama these Townhalls would have given him the experience and practice he so desperately needs. obama also has 26 debates under his belt since the primaries began. So McCain will try and do anything to throw Obama off his game. And so Obama remaining cool as a cucunber is probably driving McCain crazy. Maybe McCain's infamous temperament is starting to show so go Obama debate for a win in 2008.

P.S. I like how the Consevatives on this site are so unimaginative that they are using the Democrats own imaginative arguments to make their case for McCain. But the challenge was to Make your own reasonable case for McCain. We'll be waiting with bated breath.

Posted by: Lemonashes | September 14, 2008 12:09 AM

Not one person of color will be brave enough to run for President in the next generation or more if we can defeat Obama this November!

Republican Party stalwarts Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney were among speakers at the forum, which officials said drew 2,100 activists from 44 states.

While Obama Waffles takes aim at Obama's politics by poking fun at his public remarks and positions on issues, it also plays off the old image of the pancake-mix icon Aunt Jemima, which has been widely criticized as a demeaning stereotype. Obama is portrayed with popping eyes and big, thick lips as he stares at a plate of waffles and smiles broadly.

Placing Obama in Arab-like headdress recalls the false rumor that he is a follower of Islam, though he is actually a Christian.

On the back of the box, Obama is depicted in stereotypical Mexican dress, including a sombrero, above a recipe for "Open Border Fiesta Waffles" that says it can serve "4 or more illegal aliens." The recipe includes a tip: "While waiting for these zesty treats to invade your home, why not learn a foreign language?"

Posted by: Go for gold- McCain/Palin 2008 | September 13, 2008 11:30 PM

Well lets see, privileged class son of an admiral, liked to party in annapolis bottom of class, crashed three aircraft, got shot down over nam, pow collaborater.
divorced his crippled wife, married rich beer distributors daughter, traded on his fathers connections and pow myth to leapfrog into political life, banking scandals, maverick myth, presidential aspirations,flip flops back and forth, lies at the drop of a hat. Yeah, he's qualified allright. President Mccain

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 10:15 PM

McCain obviously doesn't know that his VP Pick opposes stem cell research.

McCain Radio Spot Trumpets Stem Cell Policy Palin Opposed

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Now I see why they (McCain/Palin) resist campaigning separately. It is hard to keep your lies straight when you are hundred's of miles apart.

The force is not with Yoda when he is all by himself.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 13, 2008 8:58 PM

McCain obviously doesn't know that his VP Pick opposes stem cell research.

McCain Radio Spot Trumpets Stem Cell Policy Palin Opposed

By Robert Barnes

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's campaign today released a radio ad that four times trumpeted his support for stem cell research but never mentioned that his vice presidential pick opposes it.

The ad, which the campaign said is running in "key states,'' says that the "original mavericks'' will work with congressional allies to improve America's health and mentions the use of stem cell research to, among other things, "help free families from the fear and devastation of illness (the full text is below).

But, unless she has changed her opinion, McCain's running mate opposes stem cell research because of her opposition to abortion, which she condemns even in the cases of rape or incest.

Posted by: FactsNotFiction | September 13, 2008 8:52 PM

here come the grim reaper dims, err, dem's

get those 4 line posts ready so you can bury this one

Unease spreads to Capitol Hill as Obama falters
By Andrew Ward in Washington

Published: September 12 2008 03:00 | Last updated: September 12 2008 03:00

Democratic jitters about the US presidential race have spread to Capitol Hill, with some members of Congress worried Barack Obama's faltering campaign could hurt their chances of re-election.

Party leaders have been hoping to strengthen Democratic control of the House and Senate in November, but John McCain's recent jump in the polls has stoked fears of a broader Republican resurgence.

A Democratic fundraiser working for several congressional candidates said some were planning to distance themselves from Mr Obama and refrain from attacks against Mr McCain.

"If people are voting for McCain it could help Republicans all the way down the ticket, even in a year when the Democrats should be sweeping all before us," said the fundraiser, a former Clinton supporter raising money for Mr Obama.

"There is a growing sense of doom among the Democrats I have spoken to . . . People are going crazy, telling the [Obama] campaign: 'you've got to do something'."

The fundraiser said concern was greatest among first-term House representatives who won seats in traditionally Republican districts in the Democratic landslide of 2006. "Several of them face a real fight to hold on to those seats," she said.

Tony Podesta, a senior Democratic lobbyist with close ties to Capitol Hill, said members of Congress were "a little nervous" after a fortnight during which Mr McCain has shaken up the race with his choice of Sarah Palin as running mate and intensified attacks against Mr Obama. "Republicans have been on the offensive for the past two weeks . . . you don't win elections on the defensive," he

Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 13, 2008 8:47 PM

What the heck is this. http://www.potatoparade.co.uk/default.aspx?userid=77b844c5-1d01-41ed-b779-9c3a5e156e41
Spud H for McCain. Obama and Biden may have peeled right down to the core issues with this one!

Go Team Obama!

Mashed Potatoes. Got to love them.
Especially with garlic and lot's of butter.

http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Posted by: Rock Ateer | September 13, 2008 8:43 PM

According to McCain, he has resorted to lies because Obama will not do townhalls with him. That too is another lie by McCain.

Posted by: Kwaku Azar | September 13, 2008 8:42 PM

don't believe the media, we the people for obama

Posted by: nevada | September 13, 2008 8:22 PM

The McCain campaign is desperate to change the subject. False controversy takes the emphasis away from a candidate who was so uninspiring that only 20% of his supporters were enthusiastic about him. Tiny crowds of bored people were the norm for McCain. Palin was selected by the same folks who brought us a "compassionate conservative" from Texas, who, like Palin, turned out to be anything but what was advertised.

Meanwhile, hard working Americans are slipping into the mud in this economy. Our real incomes have dropped while everything costs more. Can you tell me one thing McCain has done to help uninsured Americans get health care? Can you tell me what McCain has done over the last 26 years that will help us transition to a renewable energy economy? McCain agrees that global warming is influenced by the burning of fossil fuels. Do you know what his solution is? You heard it at the convention: Drill, Baby, Drill.

Drilling. That was the answer in the 1970's, 1980's, 1990's and most of the first decade of the new century. Don't you think it's time we actually did something different?

Posted by: Jennifer | September 13, 2008 8:14 PM

Since your waterboy Charlie did not ask Sarah this question, I will. What is the "mccain doctrine"?

Sarah:

MCCAIN DOCTRINE
1. In 2002, say that the Iraq war will be easy...repeatedly
2. In 2007 say people who thought it would be easy were naive and didn't try to understand facts
3. Claim to be against torture
4. Then, when Bush presses you, support torture
5. During primaries, say you will close Gitmo
6. During general elections, refuse to talk about Gitmo
7. Start saber rattling toward Russia before you become president

Posted by: i love racism | September 13, 2008 7:48 PM

Since your waterboy Charlie did not ask Sarah this question, I will. What is the "noboma doctrine"?

Sarah:

NOBAMA DOCTRINE
1. Make Europeans like us
2. Give rights to terrorists
3. Talk, without pre-conditions, to Tyrants, Terrorists, and Dictators
4. If the going gets tough-Retreat, Pull troops out, Blame Bush

Posted by: rev_wright | September 13, 2008 7:35 PM

Anyone notice Palin's procative commentary on ABC in which she states her preference for a war with Russia?
1. If Russia reenters Georgia after Georgia becomes a NATO member, she is willing to engage Russia in warfare, on Russia's turf, with no way to reinforce our troops!!!
2. Would accept the Ukraine into NATO, and pretends she can avoid war with Russia over that gesture?

Next day, Russian premier saw fit to respond, says he will reenter Georgia as necessary, and that NATO membership for Georgia is a dumb idea if the USA feels obliged to go to war over it because for him, Georgia's attack on South Ossetia is no different from 9-11, a genuine pretext for war.

To me her comments are inappropriate for a candidate who is not a member of the Senate Foreign relations committee or a member of the state department. She stirred up a warlike response from the Russian leader.

Also, just on the face of it, her willingness to go to war in Russia, seems cavalier, too easy, too eager, when no country has every succeeded in a land war in central Europe against Russia. Did she ever read about Napoleon? I suppose if you really just want to bring on Armageddon, a war against a nuclear power is a good idea.

I vote against Palin, on the basis of this speech of hers this week. She would need the draft to support this policy, to say nothing of the huge expense to equip such an army, and McCain has said we need several new divisions to be drafted, just to keep up with the Taliban.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 13, 2008 7:29 PM

It is John Mccain's mouth moving but they are Karl Rove's words

Posted by: polgeek13@hush.com | September 13, 2008 7:12 PM

But I'm tired, what are the results that you've seen? I'm seriously not being snarky. I do sincerely want to know.

McCain-Feingold was a good piece of legislation (one that he is not following the spirit of today by encouraging 527s to support his campaign), but he wrote it in 2001, before he took on a much more partisan edge. Look at what some of the people are saying on here about Democrats and Liberals, and McCain's convention encouraged that stuff. Then, he comes on the last night to give his speech and says he is about bipartisanship? (In addition, what other legislation of his besides McCain Feingold do you find so commendable?)

I honestly believe that at one time he was more interested in being bipartisan, but he has not acted that way for the past 7 years, at least. Not to mention that he's changed his position on a lot of central issues since 2001. Since then, he hasn't produced bipartisan, effective legislation or good (innovative) policies. If he was so eager for change, why didn't he do something while he had the president's ear? Again, for people who love Bush, I can understand why they support McCain. But if they don't, it's legitimately a puzzle to me.

I wonder why you have so much faith that the 2000 McCain will suddenly return, especially since he wouldn't even take on his party with his VP nomination (he very clearly wanted Lieberman or Ridge, but Brownback and others told him no)?

So, what gives you such faith that he will be different as president? He is saying almost the exact same stuff that Bush said during the 2000 campaign, and he's using a virtual carbon copy of the Bush campaign staff (and tactics). Doesn't that make you nervous?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:05 PM

I think the economy will do better with Obama as President. In general Democrats are good for the economy and Obama has an interest in economics. He will make good choices on whose advice to seek in matters of the economy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:00 PM

The candidate from south Chicago is totally unqualified to be president. His claim to fame is,"I voted against the Iraq war" Now Obambi wants us to believe, if elected, he'll suddenly grow a spine and defend us from terrorist. I'll pass. Vote McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Ancient Texan | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM

Anonymous I'm voting for McCain because I've watched his years in the Senate working with Biden, Hillary and others with true affection and results. I don't agree with the statements you cite, but I respect your right to cite them and I'm sure you are a caring person, just like I am.

Posted by: I'm tired... | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM

But you see, I'm tired, you *haven't* said why you are voting for McCain. You cite the Democrats' records for building surpluses, and then say you are voting for John McCain. Greenspan himself said that McCain's tax policies would drive up the deficit further and are bad for the economy.

You mention ridicule, but Republicans excoriated HRC during the primaries. Do some research, and you will see. McCain put out a political ad with Paris Hilton this summer, that had nothing to do with anything. But now that he has found his celebrity, he is leading chants of "Sarah, Sarah, Sarah." The larger point here is that almost every attack you people dish out about Obama can be just slightly reworded and directed at the McCain camp. Doesn't that seem strange?

So, I question these attacks because they seem utterly divorced from policies or records. Especially after you yourself cite the record of the last Democratic president, who is endorsing Obama.

The point is that all of you who support McCain just bash Obama--and not even with statements based in fact. If you want to support McCain, why not talk about how his policies will help our country? But instead you talk about voting *against* Obama and repeat the fear-mongering, hate-filled, derisive talking points that McCain has been filling his ads with, which time and again have been proven to be untrue or gross distortions.

If you don't believe in middle-class tax cuts or if you want to privatize social security or if you want to criminalize abortion, those seem like reasons to vote for McCain. But just about zero McCain supporters on here have talked about what McCain has to offer in terms of policies and positions--particularly those that make him different from Bush. Instead, they spread outright lies about Obama. If the guy's policies are so bad, why is that necessary?

I'm sad that "swing" voters might feel like you. I assume by swing voters, you mean people who are disenchanted with Bush. I don't know what kind of difference they see in McCain's records or policies. I am very sincerely concerned about what will happen to us if we have four more years of a ballooning deficit, further military quagmires, office holders who block legislative investigations claiming "executive privilege," further defunding of the American infrastructure, and rhetoric that derides people like community organizers and teachers. I don't think we're living up to our greatness, and honestly, since McCain handed over his campaign to Rove in order to win (and there's no disputing that), I don't think he's living up to his greatness either.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:48 PM

We live in the greatest country in the world. No matter how good it is, it can always be better. So we strive to make it better.
For those of you who are miserable about the current state of the USA, and spew your vitriolic hate speech about the other party, I implore you to find a better country, vote with your feet and move there. Any country. Your choice.
Our liberties are cherished by many around the world. Far more in the world would rather live in the United States if they could. Why, because of our freedoms and liberties, and the opportunity to pursue their dreams. Neither party is perfect, and both have their merits. But just because you can be anonymous on the web doesn't mean you should you use the foul language and personal attacks.
This is the most disturbing thing about this election thus far. Not the candidates, not official party rhetoric, but the viciousness of the bloggers. Try sticking to the issues...

Posted by: John | September 13, 2008 6:40 PM

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:40 PM

Spend & Deficit - you're merely copying my writing style and replacing many of my words as your own Again, it's an impotent tactic. You can make all the charges you want and put them within my words - I don't agree with you, I'm not voting for Obama, many others in my swing state are regretfully and respectfully also stating their *own* reasons in their *own* style for why they've changed their minds against Obama.

Posted by: I'm tired... | September 13, 2008 6:31 PM

Typical Republican approach. Take someone elses idea, twist it to your advantage. Throw some lies in for good measure. Manipulate and influence through plagiarism. Rove would be proud...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:31 PM

anonymous, how is calling out the mccain campaign for its lies the sign of a lack of journalistic integrity?

plus, if you read the statements from mccain's own campaign staff, they want the press to cover these stories because it creates distractions and keeps palin the focus of attention, and not obama. wapo is playing right into their hands. the people who are running his campaign know a lot about the media.

from politico.com
“Every day not talking about the economy, the war and how to fix a broken system is a victory for McCain,” said John Weaver, a former top strategist to the nominee who left the campaign last year. “They’re going to ride it as long as they can and as long as the mainstream media puts up every ridiculous charge.”

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:30 PM

James
Typical liberal approach. Take someone elses idea, twist it to your advantage. Throw some lies in for good measure. Manipulate and influence through plagiarism. Obama would be proud...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:28 PM

The Trail is doing a great job here!
If you look at their most recent 10 reports here,10 are about McCain/Palin-almost all negative out of which 8 is about Palin!This is one report about Obama-obviously positve.
Its no secret that that WaPo is left leaning and that it has many pro-Obama hacks in his payroll,but any assumed journalistic standards are sadly going drown the drain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:23 PM

SENATOR OBAMA,PLEASE GIVE AMERICA ~ A DOSE OF REALITY CONCERNING THIS US HORROR?

LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO ALSO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA'S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????


WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL HORROR CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????

*** WHEN GOD'S FACE BECAME VERY RED ***
THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????


***THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.

****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.

This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.

**INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !!
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!

Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!

For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.

It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.

This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!

***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!


A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO AND 2) GOOGLE
MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM.
** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !

lawyersforpooramericans@yahoo.com
(424-247-2013)

Posted by: DOUGLAS FIELD | September 13, 2008 6:20 PM

President Clinton appointed Lloyd Bentsen (RIP) to manage the budget and make his Presidency successful. Bentsen's staff crunched the numbers. Republicans have shown time and again that when they get in office they grow government and increase the deficit, while Democrats produce surpluses. McCain making this charge against Obama and his other desperate tactics are the reason his polls are improving--and also because pollsters are calling more Republican-leaning voters in the past two weeks. These blogs show a lot of vicious statements - and as an American I'm proud of my right of free speech to state my reason why I've decided to vote for Barack Obama. Attack as you will, but the vicious rhetoric about Obama and Clinton has largely come from the Republicans this year (remember what they said about HRC during the primaries before they were after her voters!). This is why my mother is voting for Obama because she watches McCain ridicule people and has lost her enthusiasm for him. She once thought he was a straight talker and above Rovian politics, which he once denounced. There's a reason McCains's poll numbers are rising, and it's the same reason why Bush beat McCain in South Carolina in 2000: lies, hate, and fear-mongering make Americans afraid.

Posted by: I'm tired of spend and deficit Republicans | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM

"I dont throw the first punch but i always throw the last." i like that line. Sure wish it was the Bush doctrine. Two billion dollars a week down the drain to contractors and bribery of iraq politicians. Utterly disgraceful waste of lives. Lies. Lies covering more lies. Enough of this. Give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 6:17 PM

President Clinton appointed Lloyd Bentsen (RIP) to manage the budget and make his Presidency successful. Bentsen's staff crunched the numbers. Obama making this charge against McCain and his other desperate tactics are the reason his poll numbers are sliding. These blogs show a lot of vicious statements - and as an American I'm proud of my right of free speech to state my reason why I've decided to vote for John McCain. Attack as you will, but the vicious rhetoric about Hillary and now Palin has largely come from the Democrats this year and my 80 year old mother who refused to sit in the front of the bus in 50's Virgina and who was truly excited about both a women and person of color in the race at one time (and a lifelong Democrat) is voting for McCain because she watches Obama ridicule people and has lost her enthusiasm for him. There's a reason Obama's poll numbers are dropping and the reason is personal to each individual voter.


Posted by: I'm tired... | September 13, 2008 6:13 PM

Why won't McCain engage Obama on the issues?
Why won't Palin or McCain answer everyday voters at their campaign stops?
What are they so afraid of?
When questioned, Palin knows her lack of experience will be revealed. Give her a canned speech and a teleprompter and she can shine. Ask her to think for herself and she knows her inexperience, lack of wisdom and her real position on the issues will show.
Palin is bad for the country. Liberal, socialist policies--like windfall profit taxes on oil and pork barrel spending--are bad for the country.

Posted by: james from new mexico | September 13, 2008 6:12 PM

SENATOR OBAMA,PLEASE GIVE AMERICA ~ A DOSE OF REALITY CONCERNING THIS US HORROR ?

LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO ALSO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA'S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ??


WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL HORROR CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ???

*** WHEN GOD'S FACE BECAME VERY RED ***
THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ???


***THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.

****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.

This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.

**INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !!
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!

Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!

For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.

It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.

This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!

***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!


A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO AND 2) GOOGLE
MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM.
** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !

lawyersforpooramericans@yahoo.com
(424-247-2013)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:09 PM

Grandpa needs to go back to Sedona and retire. His chosen running mate should go back to Alaska and keep her day job, the two of them are a joke for our society. I say thanks but no thanks, no way no how no McCain.

Posted by: Smiley | September 13, 2008 6:07 PM

No... We need Biden as VP. He potentially can shake up things. And I know three-year-olds who know that Alaska and Russia don't share a border. Again, who's the moron? I love reading the Republican squirmer remarks. Sweet! Less than fifty days to go Republican boys and girls( if there are any left not voting for Obama). Oh, wait, maybe Palin the celebrity can win if we add the trillions of votes from Russia, which she can see from her state. Oh yes, and she would have to take McCain out of the top of the spot too.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:07 PM

Ever wondered where the politics of hate that we're witnessing lately came from? Here's the answer:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/136156

Posted by: TheCentrist | September 13, 2008 6:05 PM

"Obama won't do the Town Halls with McCain."

Then, why is one of the debates a town hall meeting?

Posted by: anyonymous | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM

I hope the McCain camp and Republicans are following the polls and adjusting their strategy for the polls.

This election will not be won in the polls but by voters who register in which the Obama campaign is exceling at.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM

"Obama won't do the Town Halls with McCain."

Then, why is one of the debates a town hall meeting?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM

"Obama won't do the Town Halls with McCain."

Then, why is one of the debates a town hall meeting?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM

looks like your women are going to get your wish...2000 & 2004........all over....again. it's gonna be a 3 peat !!!!!
whooohoooooo

Maybe the deficit can be $15 billion in 4 years! Maybe our infrastructure will continue to crumble! Maybe our credit crises will deepen and we can bail out more gigantic private corporations (Lehman Brothers might be next)! Maybe we can institute tax cuts that even Alan Greenspan thinks are bad for our economy! Maybe we can enter more wars for no good reason! Maybe we could start a draft! Maybe we will never catch the people who attacked us on 911!

Posted by: laughing at the usa's demise | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM

Being old means 1. naptime is more important than anything 2. dry diapers are very important 3. i forget 3

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM

I would hope the 2009 President, Barack Obama, knows how to use a computer since they have a lot to do with the global economy we're in. Of course, McCain thinks executive staffs should do all of his work. It's now just become sad to see how much McCain is flailing. McCain is right on one matter - Americans aren't stupid and we clearly see through McCain's hapless and impotent attacks as desperate rhetoric . This comes from a former lifelong Republican who would have cast a vote for Mike Huckabee or the 2000 John McCain for President. The next PUSA needs to be a lot smarter and skillful than McCain is today. With Karl "Illegitimate Black Child" Rove and Steve "Personality" Schmidt and other Republican cronies tooting their own horn with McCain I realized the party has moved away from me. This election cycle has taken it's toll - I'm tired of McCain's ego and grandiosity; I'm also no longer inspired by our gigantic deficit and the fearmongering cause celebre - I'm just an average American working hard, obeying the laws, paying bills and I'm proud of my country.

Posted by: I'm tired of you | September 13, 2008 5:54 PM

Republicans.. pushed a 17 year old girl into the spotlight for their ambitions.
Republicans.. conitune to tell vile lies on the blogs and report them in the press.
Republicans.. tell women they can't have a joba and children too.
Republicans.. never investigated Palin.
Republicans.. hate god and anyone who believes in god.
Republicans.. are for taking care of zygotes but not babies once they are born.
Republicans.. are intolerent of anyone who does not share their view.
Republicans.. acted like terrorists at the republican convention.
Republicans.. suppress honest reporters.

Republicans.. the party of change? Change to what? Hate, intolerance and lies are

Posted by: claim_fearmongering_is_reason | September 13, 2008 5:49 PM

I would hope the 2009 President, John McCain, isn't wasting his time on computers given the issues of the economy, trade deficit, budget overruns, national security and foreign affairs. Of course, Obama doesn't have the experience to know that executive staffs are the ones that work on computers. It's now just become sad to see how much Obama is flailing. Obama is right on one matter - Americans aren't stupid and we clearly see through Obama's hapless and impotent attacks as desperate rhetoric . This comes from a former lifelong Democrat who would have cast a vote for either Biden or Hillary for President. The next PUSA needs to be a lot smarter and skillful than Obama. With Ted "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy and Bill "Backstab" Richardson and other Democratic cronies tooting their own horn with Obama I realized the party has moved away from me. This election cycle has taken it's toll - I'm tired of Obama's ego and grandiosity; I'm also no longer inspired by Affirmative Action and Latino cause celebe - I'm just an average American working hard, obeying the laws, paying bills and I'm proud of my country.

Posted by: I'm tired... | September 13, 2008 5:44 PM

bobster & company

looks like your women are going to get your wish...2000 & 2004........all over....again. it's gonna be a 3 peat !!!!!
whooohoooooo

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/electoral-map.html


One bright spot for Obama is that a new poll in New Hampshire (4 EV) moved the Granite State from toss-up into his column.

But the largest shift in the race came from two swing states that Democrats Al Gore and John Kerry both won, Michigan (17 EV) and Pennsylvania (21 EV), moving away from Democrat Obama's column into the toss-up category.

It’s very difficult to see how Obama can get to 270 electoral votes without those states.


Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 13, 2008 5:44 PM

How many 72 year old people do you know that like change? How many 72 year old people do you know that hate it and talk about the old days constantly. Who do you think is lying about change in this election? Who wants things to remain the same? Give the new guy a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 5:43 PM


Liberals.. attacked a 17 year old girl.
Liberals.. conitune to tell vile lies on the blogs and report them in the press.
Liberals.. tell women they can't have a joba and children too.
Liberals.. never investigated Obama.
Liberals.. hate god and anyone who believes in god.
Liberals.. are against the death penalty but condone the murder of innocent children.
Liberals.. are intolerent of anyone who does not share their view.
Liberals.. acted like terrorists at the republican convention.
Liberals.. suppress honest reporters.

Liberals.. the party of change? Change to what? Hate, intolerance and lies are

Posted by: reason | September 13, 2008 5:37 PM

Bobster said: "To all of you who think Obama is running away from talks one on one with McCain, YOU ARE WRONG!!! Barack Obama is ready to talk..."

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You are misinformed. Obama won't do the Town Halls with McCain. Flat refused. Won't give a reason. What is he hiding?
His policies have no depth. He has superficial sound bytes that sound good to some. Most people see through them to the implications. That is what he is afraid of. So instead he whines about McCain and tries to make news about the repubs not being fair.
They should sit down together and talk about the issues. That is what McCain has asked for repeatedly. The fact that Obama wants to sit down and talk it out with Chavez, Castro, etc. but won't sit down with McCain should tell you something right there...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:35 PM

McCain/Palin -- sleazy fuucks!

Posted by: Cindy McCain | September 13, 2008 5:28 PM

As you are sitting in the gas line ask yourself if you are better off now than you were 8 years ago.
If you are then you are probably a rich republican.
If you are not why not give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 5:28 PM

McCain had a last 8 years to accomplish something!!! So far, him and Bush indeed accomplish something, in fact a lot of things. All we have to do, is to elect John McCain as president and accomplishments will continue. Bush's accomplishments. SAME AS BUSH. GOOD JOB JOHNY BOY.

Posted by: Bobster | September 13, 2008 5:21 PM

We Obamamanics have concluded that 1. rednecks love bumperstickers 2. all attempts to convince redneck swing voters must be set in that form.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 5:18 PM

No... We need Palin as VP. She potentially can shake up things. And I know three-year-olds who know that we have fifty states. Again, who's the moron? I love reading the Demo squirmer remarks. Sweet! Less than fifty days to go Demo boys and girls( if there are any left not voting for Palin). Oh, wait, maybe the "O" can win if we add the trillions of votes from the extra seven or eight states that "O" thinks exists.

Posted by: Landrum | September 13, 2008 5:14 PM

To all of you who think Obama is running away from talks one on one with McCain, YOU ARE WRONG!!! Barack Obama is ready to talk about major issues that hold this country together, ONE ON ONE WITH McCAIN. McCain knows about issues that hold this country, but he is going to ignore them, just like Bush did, and try to use fear tactics against all of you. When McCain stops talking about himsels and POW time, Obama will be ready to talk, When McCain is ready. McCain had been caught talking even against himself, but he always gets away with POW story and how he fought for this country. Well it's about time to distance himself from Bush and show us that he really is the right guy for this country, UNTIL THEN OBAMA IS THE RIGHT GUY.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 13, 2008 5:10 PM

wow......the obama nut program has apparently decided it cannot have discussion so they have the college kids post repetitive 4-6 line goofy posts.

Here is one for you. see how long it takes you to hit 10-15 posts till it gets pushed off 2nd page girls

In an August 23 article on Sen. Barack Obama's selection of Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) as his vice-presidential running mate, the Los Angeles Times reported that "when he ran for president in 1988, Biden was accused of plagiarism when he did not credit Neil Kinnock, then leader of the British Labor Party, for much of his stump speech." Similarly, in an August 23 article, The New York Times reported that Biden "was forced to quit the 1988 presidential race in the face of accusations that he had plagiarized part of a speech from Neil Kinnock," and in an August 23 article, the Associated Press reported that Biden's 1988 run for president "ended badly" after he "was caught lifting lines from a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/joe_bidens_plagiarism_problem.html

Bidens kids...right Obama, lobbyist are bad ?

son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.

The Democratic vice presidential candidate's son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.

The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden's involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.

A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.


so let's talk about 'judgment' libs. He threw Hillary over the cliff for this guy ?


let's see how long the dems and libs keep telling us how honest mr obama is as this gets ready to launch

http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/why_obama_is_mum.htm

what lifted Obama from obscurity to national prominence in such a short time you may wonder ?

why not ask Percy Sutton, the most powerful civil right activist in New York

We know enough about Obama’s Columbia grades to know how far they fall below the Harvard norm, likely even below the affirmative action-adjusted black norm at Harvard.

As far back as 1988, however, Obama had serious pull. He would need it. As previously reported, Khalid al-Mansour, principal adviser to Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, lobbied friends like Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton to intervene at Harvard on Obama’s behalf.

An orthodox Muslim, al-Mansour has not met the crackpot anti-Semitic theory he could not embrace. As for bin Talal, in October 2001, New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sent his $10 million relief check back un-cashed after the Saudi billionaire blamed 9/11 on America.

Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 13, 2008 5:07 PM

You are so right!!

For the first time in my life, I decided it was time to get involved in the Obama movement. I just got back from a voter registration drive at a gas station in the inner city of Jackson, MS. We signed up 6 people in 2 hours, which is not bad considering the gas station was out of fuel!

It felt so great to be a part of this campaign! In the words of one of the people we registered today, "I think everyone ought to be doing what you are doing!"

Go Obama/Biden 08!!!

Posted by: Hillobama | September 13, 2008 5:04 PM

The ability to lie convincingly can only be gained through years of experience. Mccain lost sight of the truth so long ago that he can't remember when it happened.
All Obama has to do is just tell the truth the way he sees it = he'll do fine.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 4:54 PM

The world needs a change , did you see the RNC It look like a separatist Rally, No diversity at all ! That tells you all you need to know about the McCain/ Palin ticket. The world is changing and you need someone who is that is going to be able to change with the times. Obama/Biden

Posted by: mona | September 13, 2008 4:48 PM

Why won't Obama engage McCain on the issues?
Why won't BO attend town hall meetings as McCain has invited?
What is BO afraid of?
When compared side by side, BO knows his lack of experience will be revealed. Give him a canned speech and a teleprompter and he can shine. Ask him to think for himself and he knows his inexperience, lack of wisdom and his real position on the issues will show.
Obama is bad for the country. Liberal, socialist policies are bad for the country.
Country first. If you love your country, you know you need to vote McCain.

Posted by: John In Colorado | September 13, 2008 4:38 PM

We in the lower 48 do not appreciate the difficulties of life in Alaska. It is only natural that they feel separated from us ideologically as well as spiritually.
Deference should be given to Governor Palin for her survival abilities. Remembering the order and chronology of such a large body of lies and distortions is a feat even Joe Liebermann would find daunting.
I think we should reserve judgment and show Governor Palin the same respect and deference that the Alaskan legislature shows her as it investigates her for abuse of power. Go Sarah

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 4:34 PM

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Somebody with balls ask Sarah Palin if she has ever read the Constitution of the United States of America?

If so, when was it?

If so, please explain in your own words what are the duties and responsibilities of Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court.

If so, please explain in your own words what Rights are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and do you agree with protecting those Rights.

Posted by: jonmiktay | September 13, 2008 4:31 PM

What is this about Palin? Where are Republican coverage for domestic issues?

Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, is a beautiful lady. What else can you tell me about her? Is she qualified to be the President of the United States?

In contrast to many very highly qualified Republican ladies, such as Dr. Condoleezza Rice, Sarah Palin has equivalent high school knowledge in some fields, and not at all in the others. In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant, then finished third (second runner-up) in the Miss Alaska pageant, at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award. Palin admits to trying cannabis as a youth, during the time Alaska had decriminalized possession though she says she did not enjoy it.
Palin spent her first college semester at Hawaii Pacific College, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.
Did Senator McCain think choosing a family advocating separation of Alaska from the United States would buy my vote?

I am disappointed with Sen. John McCain’s selection; he chose such a feather weight person to represent the Republican Party. Did he think that American women would vote for him because he selected a female rather than a male for the ticket? Senator McCain, please stop insulting the American women?

As you have stated yourself, you had voted 95% of the times in the Senate along the President Bush's policies. Senator McCain, the issues during this election are: job, economy, medical insurance, infrastructure, education, and failed policy of the President Bush. As President Regan once stated: Are we better now than 4 years ago? No, my family is worse than 8 years ago.

Should I vote for Bush-McCain policies once more? I can not afford more of Bush’s domestic and international policies.

Posted by: Saint Michael Traveler | September 13, 2008 4:11 PM

Since it is learned that the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent first will automatically win November's elections and it has nothing to do with issues and popularity polls, wonder if McCain's decision to appear without Palin today is an orchestrated public distraction from his specific attempt to bump off mutual opponent in the middle of the night tonight instead?

Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is specifically targeted. It is also learned this party is wealthy so this is another motivation to bump person off.

The question is will McCain solicit a Nixon convict type with jail time to do the bumping off? Will the Republican party employ the popular law enforcement practice of 'sweetheart deals' where such crimes/murders are committed by convicts in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits publicly unsuspected?

Should we too have to worry about our family's safety as our habits and plans are known in advanced via bugging devices both in private and public places frequented? For example, should we worry when we do our routine jog, shop or are asleep in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home? After all, this is the Republican Party that Nixon created with convicted criminals who spy on everyday Americans.

Posted by: anonymous_racist | September 13, 2008 3:49 PM

I have to go, but it has been fun.

The beauty--and the danger--of fear-mongering attacks is that all you have to do is shift a few words around and you could make the same claims about anyone. We could turn your grandmother into a radical extremist.

But, if you make arguments about policy and record, well, those can’t be turned around to fit anyone.

So, if you want to continue to spread hate speech, I’m going to continue to send it right back your way, to prove the point that these kind of baseless attacks can be turned against anyone. I hope you begin to see: what’s the point? It just creates a bunch of static and division. I think both candidates want what’s best for this country. It’s our responsibility as citizens to talk openly about whose policies we think will put us on the right path. I don’t see how that happens by spewing slander.

Hate and fear shouldn’t be what this election is about. There are too many important issues to consider. I’ll respect your views when you focus on those issues, rather than spreading hate, lies, and fear.

If this fear mongerer who continues to post under different names posts again, I hope that someone else will take up the cause and reverse the messages. We shouldn’t take hate speech sitting down, and it’s our duty to point out how baseless and dangerous it is.

Posted by: not_a_fear_mongerer | September 13, 2008 3:46 PM

Obama Cancels SNL Appearance

"In light of the unfolding crisis in Texas, Senator Obama has decided it is no longer appropriate to appear on Saturday Night Live tomorrow evening," his campaign said.

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Since it is learned that the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent first will automatically win November's elections and it has nothing to do with issues and popularity polls, wonder if Obama's decision to cancel SNL show this morning and head back to Chicago tonight after rally in NH, is an orchestrated public distraction from his specific attempt to bump off mutual opponent in the middle of the night tonight instead?

Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is specifically targeted. It is also learned this party is wealthy so this is another motivation to bump person off.

The question is will Obama solicit an OJ Simpson convict type with jail time to do the bumping off? Will the Dem party employ the popular law enforcement practice of 'sweetheart deals' where such crimes/murders are committed by convicts in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits publicly unsuspected?

Should we too have to worry about our family's safety as our habits and plans are known in advanced via bugging devices both in private and public places frequented? For example, should we worry when we do our routine jog, shop or are asleep in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:46 PM

The cause :"They are pirhanas"
Therefore the reaction:...a pit bull with lipstick. And a press release.

That said a lot about Palin the secessionist.

Posted by: pete_racist | September 13, 2008 3:38 PM

I rushed to get to the gas station this morning but the terrorists beat me. $4.50 a gallon - bin laden strikes again.
Obama hss a plan to defeat them but only he can and only if - you give the new guy a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 3:38 PM

"So until at which point in time we feel like the news media is going to treat her with some level of respect and deference, I think it would be foolhardy to put her out into that kind of environment."
-Rick Davis, demanding that his candidate get deferential, preferential treatment

She doesn't want to talk about her record. What record?

-Hiring a lobbyist to get $27 million in earmarks for a town of less than 8,000 people
-Putting that town in long-term debt to the tune of tens of millions of dollars for the first time in its history
-Accepting money from Congressional delegates for Bridge to Nowhere--then claiming that she said no thanks
-Getting more pork per person than any other governor
-Heading up Ted Stevens's 527
-Blocking a legislative investigation

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:37 PM


Trivial Pursuits question circa 2010.

"Name failed presidential candidate Barack Obama's running mate."

Posted by: WylieD | September 13, 2008 3:37 PM

The cause :"They tried to run me down"
Therefore the reaction:...are a pig and a fish-smelling____you know what.

That said a lot about Obama the sexist.

Posted by: pete | September 13, 2008 3:36 PM


"The McCain-Palin ticket, they don't want to debate the Obama-Biden ticket on the issues because they're running on eight more years,"
-Barack Obama


McCain wanted 10 debates. Obama would agree to only 3.

Distort Obama's record? What record?

Obama's idea of the truth was forged by Chicago machine politics.

Posted by: WylieD | September 13, 2008 3:31 PM

Two billion a week down the drain in Iraq.
Federal highway funds are gone done empty.
When your car disappears into that pothole this winter your last thought will be maybe i should have given the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 3:26 PM

People should be concerned about Palin, today she is in alaska, refusing to appear in the lower 48 with mccain.
That is cynical and it said a lot about the woman.

Posted by: pete_racist | September 13, 2008 3:24 PM

Re:justada55+

People should be concerned about Obama, today he cancelled his running mate Biden planned appearance just as he denounced lobbyists in Washington.
That is cynical and it said a lot about the man.

Posted by: pete | September 13, 2008 3:22 PM

WAKE-UP AMERICA!!!
In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Palin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or freelance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, and Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eats this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"


Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:38 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:17 PM

Even in an election year with their well being riding on the outcome, the oil companies are having another feeding frenzy. The gas price gouging orgy has started and will run its course because of virtually no regulation for the oil industry. Obama can help if you will only give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 3:15 PM

Don't be scared of Obama, the threat can be over in days. Get the hell out of Iraq and find the true killers of 911.
Possibly a stupid Canadian. Respond please, for even at my age I yearn for information. Man did we ever leave our kids a mess.

Posted by: justada55+ | September 13, 2008 3:15 PM

Palin's husband was member of third party

By JIM KUHNHENN – Sep 2, 2008

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states' rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Sarah Palin herself was never a member of the party, according to state officials.

Questions about a third-party link to John McCain's new running mate emerged Tuesday as the latest issue facing the McCain campaign in the midst of the Republican National Convention.

Questions had swirled about Sarah Palin's affiliation with the Independence Party and with former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan. Voter registration records and past news reports, however, show Palin never registered as a member of the Independence Party, and backed Steve Forbes' presidential campaign in 2000, not Buchanan.

"Supporters of Barack Obama are engaged in an unfortunate and nasty smear campaign," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said, specifically citing issues related to Palin's politics.

Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000. Some members of the party have advocated secession from the United States, though that is not a goal listed in the party's platform.

Palin did address the Alaskan Independence Party's state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks.

"Your party plays an important role in our state's politics," she said in the video, which is posted on the party's Web site. "I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well."

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News that Palin and her husband, Todd, belonged to the party in 1994.

Obama advisers and surrogates have linked Palin to conservative former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan. An Associated Press story from Alaska, dated July 17, 1999, stated that Palin, then the mayor of the small town of Wasilla, was wearing a Buchanan button during a Buchanan visit to Alaska.

But in a letter to the Anchorage Daily News a week later, Palin wrote: "When presidential candidates visit our community, I am always happy to meet them. I'll even put on their button when handed one as a polite gesture of respect. ... The article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla."

A week after that, the Associated Press reported that Palin would serve as a co-chair of Forbes' campaign.

Buchanan himself told MSNBC's Chris Matthews last week that Palin "was a brigadeer in 1996 as was her husband ... They were at a fundraiser for me, she's a terrific gal, she's a rebel reformer."

Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.

Posted by: rick_racist | September 13, 2008 3:14 PM

Would McCain rather loose his integrity than loose an election? Seems so.

Posted by: PhilTR | September 13, 2008 3:12 PM

Todd Palin, Longtime Former AIP Member

September 02, 2008 5:11 PM

Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, says that Palin's husband Todd was a member of the AIP from October 1995 through July 2002, except for a few months in 2000. He is currently undeclared.

Posted by: tim_racist | September 13, 2008 3:12 PM

Bombs claimed by Muslim militants kill 18 in India
By TIM SULLIVAN – 1 hour ago

NEW DELHI (AP) — A coordinated series of explosions struck a park and crowded shopping areas across the Indian capital Saturday evening, killing at least 18 people and injuring at least 61, officials said. A Muslim militant group claimed responsibility.

All of the bombs exploded in, or very near, crowded shopping areas in various parts of New Delhi. They began going off just before sundown — prime time for weekend shoppers in this crowded, chaotic city. Police spokesman Rajan Bhagat said there had been five explosions, though Mayor Arti Mehra earlier said there were as many as seven.

"It's a very cowardly act of violence," Mehra told reporters near the scene of two of the explosions, in the M-Block market of the city's upscale Greater Kailash neighborhood. "They want to break the spirit of Delhi. They have tried this in other places before and they have not succeeded and they will not succeed here. They will not scare us."

Local media received an e-mail sent just before the blasts warning that India was about to receive the "Message of Death."

"In the name of Allah, Indian Mujahideen strikes back once more. ... Do whatever you can. Stop us if you can," said the message.

The Indian Mujahideen was unknown before May, when it claimed responsibility for a series of bombings in the western city of Jaipur that killed 61 people. The group also said it was responsible for July blasts in the western state of Gujarat that killed at least 45.

Home Minister Shivraj Patil said at least 18 people had been killed.

"We will find out who has done it," he told reporters.

U.S. Ambassador David Mulford condemned the attack.

Posted by: rick | September 13, 2008 3:12 PM

I can't not see how two lawyers who stank being lawyers that they were trained for, one also admitted being a bad and uninspired community worker while the other has absolutely no work experience in the real world in his entire life should be leading the greatest country on earth.
I think the country will be in better hands of McCain and Palin.

Posted by: pete | September 13, 2008 3:11 PM

Bomb blasts rock New Delhi, 18 killed, dozens injured
5 hours ago

NEW DELHI (AFP) — A series of five synchronised bomb blasts ripped through crowded markets in the Indian capital New Delhi on Saturday, killing at least 18 people and injuring dozens more.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g6oBbuA-rWJUShVB6FHab1SNWfdw
Police said a further three unexploded devices were found and defused, including one at India Gate, one of the country's most iconic monuments and a major tourist attraction in the heart of Delhi.

A Muslim militant outfit, Indian Mujahideen, claimed responsibility for the bombings, which were all triggered within a 45-minute period.

"In the name of Allah, the Indian Mujahideen has struck back again. Do whatever you want. Stop us if you can," the group said in an email sent to several media outlets minutes before the first blast at 6:30 pm (1300 GMT).

Little is known about the make-up of Indian Mujahideen, which had also claimed responsibility for a wave of bombings in July that killed at least 45 people in the western commercial city of Ahmedabad.

Saturday's bombs were of varying intensity and the targetted locations in south and central Delhi were all packed with early evening shoppers.

"The fact that the blasts took place in crowded markets on a Saturday indicates the evil intention of the culprits to cause maximum casualties and damage," said Home Minister Shivraj Patil.

Patil put the death toll at 18, while estimates of the number of injured ranged from 40 to as many as 90.

Two of the blasts hit Connaught Place -- the city's largest financial and commercial centre -- while two more targeted the upmarket shopping district of Greater Kailash.

The fifth ripped through a crowded electronics and automobile components market.

New Delhi Mayor Aarti Mehra appealed for calm as the blasts spread panic through the city.

"We have the strength to face this," Mehra told reporters.

"Please stay calm. Do not be afraid," she said. "The police and government agencies are on your side. Delhi's strength is in its people. We cannot be frightened."

Police in Greater Kailash searched for survivors among a mess of mangled motorcycles, cars and shattered glass from vehicles caught in two blasts that went off within seven minutes of each other.

One of the bombs was believed to have been hidden in a dustbin.

"I was stepping out for a cup of tea when everything turned black in front of me," said Gulab Singh, an underground train guard. "Then everyone started running."

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who was attending a meeting of his ruling Congress party when the blasts occurred, vowed that "the challenge posed by terrorism and communalism would be fought tooth and nail."

President Pratibha Patil denounced what she described as a "mindless act of violence."

The three unexploded bombs were found at India Gate, near a large cinema in Connaught Place and in Parliament Street, about one kilometre (just over half a mile) from the seat of government.

An explosive expert with one of the bomb disposal units said the devices appeared to have been packed with steel ball bearings and nuts and bolts "to cause maximum harm."

Triple blasts in New Delhi in October 2005, blamed on Pakistan-backed Islamic rebel groups, claimed nearly 70 lives, while a 2001 attack on India's national parliament complex also blamed on Muslim militants killed 14 people.

Other major Indian cities were placed on alert in the wake of Saturday's blasts, and security was boosted at airports and railway stations across the country, a Home Ministry official said.

Police set up barricades across New Delhi and were searching vehicles in the hunt for the bombers. The city's metro service was temporarily shut down.

Congress President Sonia Gandhi described the blasts as an "act of cowardice," while a senior leader of the opposition BJP, V.K. Malhotra, said it was "like a war has been waged against the country."

Posted by: tim | September 13, 2008 3:10 PM

Finally an attack a counter punch and a counter attack to Tucker Bounds flagrant noxious comment. Finally the Obama Campaign is getting the gumption to fight on and continue the fight with the facts. HERE WE GO!
No Hate. No Name Calling. Just the Truth from the Dems!

Obama / Biden 2008

Posted by: Evan | September 13, 2008 3:07 PM

Judging from the near-identical wording, one McCain-Palin supporter is making all these comments under phony names. That's not surprising, considering that they've been trying to exaggerate their support by giving out bogus estimates of the crowd size at their rallies. As the Washington Post's Marc Fisher calculated, the actual size of the northern VA rally was 8,000, not 23,000, as the McCain people insisted (falsely) that a fire marshal had told them. Obama routinely draws crowds that size or bigger.

Posted by: Patrick | September 13, 2008 3:06 PM

Palin has radical relationships and her staff are also radical anti-amercan bigots.

looking at their comments, its scary to vote for Palin.

Posted by: anonymous_racist | September 13, 2008 3:03 PM

Instead of arguing over whether the candidates are nice, liars, etc, why not look at the facts when you decide who to vote for....the failed policies of Bush/MCCain economics are seen in Bloombergs article of Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- "More Americans than forecast filed initial claims for unemployment insurance last week, while total benefit rolls rose to the highest level in almost five years, as companies cut staff to maintain profits in a slowing economy.

First-time jobless claims fell to 445,000 in the week ended Sept. 6 from a revised 451,000 the prior week that was more than initially reported. The number of people staying on rolls rose 122,000 to 3.525 million, the highest since October 2003.

The labor market is weakening as the biggest housing recession in a generation spills over to the broader economy, slowing demand and causing a surge in financial losses. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg News this month forecast consumer spending in the current quarter slowed to the weakest pace since 1992.

``The upward trend in initial jobless claims paints a bleak picture of the labor market,'' Ryan Sweet, a senior economist at Moody's Economy.com in West Chester, Pennsylvania, said before the report. "
Those policies did not work and got us into a world economy that is going belly up. Think about real issues not personality...This isn't American Idol...this is democracy vs. socialism; this is economic recovery vs depression...Hello!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:03 PM

palin bloggers are rednecks.. they have nothing other than foolish things to comment.

Go get life dudes! do some service to this great nation.

How did you all become such anti-american bigots? its your parents fault.

Posted by: taylor_racist | September 13, 2008 3:01 PM

Charlie Gibson's Gaffe
By Charles Krauthammer

"Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of `anticipatory self-defense.'" -- New York Times, Sept. 12

WASHINGTON -- Informed her? Rubbish.

The Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today.

He asked Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?"

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what respect, Charlie?"

Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, he grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense."

Wrong.

I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of The Weekly Standard titled, "The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to Congress nine days later, Bush declared: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime." This "with us or against us" policy regarding terror -- first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the Bush Doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq War was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of pre-emptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.

It's not. It's the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of Bush foreign policy and the one that most distinctively defines it: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush's second inaugural address: "The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."

This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was consciously meant to echo John Kennedy's pledge that the United States "shall pay any price, bear any burden ... to assure the survival and the success of liberty." It draws also from the Truman doctrine of March 1947 and from Wilson's 14 points.

If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking about Bush's grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda.

Not the Gibson doctrine of pre-emption.

Not the "with us or against us" no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days.

Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration.

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines, which came out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Gibson. And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, "sounding like an impatient teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes' reaction to the phenom who presumes to play on their stage.

letters@charleskrauthammer.com
Copyright 2008, Washington Post Writers Group



Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 3:01 PM

Palin's husband is a secessionist, Palin just admited that he is a secessionist in AP story. He is registered traitor from 1995-2002. Now he is "undeclared." Hmmmm.

Posted by: sandy_racist | September 13, 2008 3:01 PM

obama bloggers are rednecks.. they have nothing other than foolish things to comment.

Go get life dudes! do some service to this great nation.

How did you all become such anti-american bigots? its your parents fault.

Posted by: taylor | September 13, 2008 3:00 PM

During the seventies recession crime was a big problem. People didn't have time to worry about imaginary terrorists because they had too many real criminals waiting down the block. Fearmongers were around then too. Movies like deathwish and dirty harry reflected this fear. With another recession possibly even worse in store, I don't worry about some nuts living in pakistan. I worry about the ones living under the overpass. Give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 3:00 PM

Obama has radical relationships and his staff are also radical anti-amercan bigots.

looking at their comments, its scary to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:59 PM

Sad to see what is going on there. So many states to be destroyed by radical alaskans.
Here, palinbots are ravaging the blogs with anti-american comments. Embarissing to their parents. Cultureless anti-american bigots.

Its really negative for us to read their comments.

Posted by: erin_racist | September 13, 2008 2:58 PM

Obama's father is a muslim, Obama just admited that he is a muslim on abc. "MY MUSLIM FAITH".

We are voting McCain.

Posted by: sandy | September 13, 2008 2:58 PM

radical alaskans are dangerous to the world. See how they intimidate the georgians now.

We cannot take chances with radical Palin.

Posted by: kimberly_racist | September 13, 2008 2:57 PM

radical muslims are dangerous to the world. See how they intimidate the brits now.

We cannot take chances with radical Obama.

We are also voting McCain.

Posted by: kimberly | September 13, 2008 2:56 PM

Sad to see what is going on there. So many people killed by these radical islamic terrorists.
Here, obamabots are ravaging the blogs with anti-american comments. Embarissing to their parents. Cultureless anti-american bigots.

Its really negative for us to read their comments and that help make up our mind to vote McCain Palin.

Posted by: Erin | September 13, 2008 2:55 PM

These radical alaskans believes that they should secede.. Isn't crazy?

we will also pray for Russians being spied upon by those on Alaskan islands.

Posted by: kristen_racist | September 13, 2008 2:54 PM

Its horrific what is happening near Canada. These Alaskan extremists should be thought a lesson.

Palin the radical and McCain the fool. We cannot take risk.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:52 PM

Please oh please vote for MCCain so he can give more of average American's money to the upper one per cent so they can continue to create jobs as they did under Bush's same economic policies. HA HA HA

BBC news Sept 13:"US retail sales decline in August
US retail sales fall unexpectedly in August, the second monthly decline in a row, increasing concerns about the US economy.
Job market jitters add to US woes
Major US retailers see sales dip

Olympics slows Chinese industry

The rate of growth of China's industrial output slowed to a six-month low in August, as factories were closed for the Olympics.
Japan's economy sees a sharp fall

Japan's economic output records its sharpest quarterly fall in almost seven years as the country appears to be falling into recession."

Posted by: Jerry | September 13, 2008 2:52 PM

These terrorists and radical muslims believes that non muslim should be killed.. Isn't crazy?

we will also pray for terror bombing in India.
We are also voting McCain/Palin

Posted by: kristen | September 13, 2008 2:52 PM

Sad to see what is happening in Russia. It seems the governing party is aligned with Alaskan extremists and they got themselves into this situation. This coalition was attacking Georgia just months ago.

I know, We cannot take chances with Palin in such scenario.

Posted by: cruzer | September 13, 2008 2:51 PM

Its horrific what is happening in India. These Muslim Terrorists should be thought a lesson.

Obama the radical and Biden the fool. We cannot take risk.

We are also voting McCain by the way. We need security first then other issues.

Posted by: Susie | September 13, 2008 2:50 PM

I love my country and my husband is in the military. We are terrified of our "enemies" who proclaim they are fighting a jihad against America while invoking "Allah" (God) saying God is on their side and this is God's War. I am terrified of a potential vice president who says in her first interview that this is God's War and God's Will that we should be in Iraq. Shouldn't we leave God out of this mess we are in? Aren't you saying things we should be very afraid of? Shouldn't we be separating church and state? Please stick to issues and don't bring God into our conflicts and elections. I am as terrified of Ms. Palin as I am of our so-called "enemies". They invoke the same language, fanaticism and narrow-mindedness. We need representation of all the people of America, and this nation's strength is in it's diversity. United we stand, divided we fall. Please remember this Ms. Palin. And leave God out of our wars. Or else we will start asking questions nobody can answer.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:49 PM

Sad to see what is happening in india. It seems the governing party is muslim appeasing and they got themselves into this situation. There were bombing few months ago in another city.

I know, We cannot take chances with Obama in such scenario. We are anyway voting for McCain/Palin this fall.

Posted by: cruz | September 13, 2008 2:49 PM

I am voting Obama Biden to keep America safe from Alaskan extreme radicalists.

Posted by: stacy | September 13, 2008 2:48 PM

Are Palinbots brainless? They don't care about her extreme radical friends and their secessionist views. Ask yourself how she rose to power so quickly? It is because of her extreme friends who want to destroy American institutions. Think about it: she is the head of a socialist state and is trying to take over the White House in order to destroy the union from within.

Alaskans are the biggest threat to our union and maybe our world. Don't be fooled.

Check it out.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpC0ED5JB9qx1iUsd9xz-dBbwWBwD92UTA501

Posted by: Todd | September 13, 2008 2:47 PM

Obama is the least qualified candidate in the history to run for president. He has radical background and dangerous associations. We do not know who he is. Why did his harvard education was funded by radical muslim khalid-al-mansour of saudi arabia?

We are voting McCain/Palin. We cannot take chances with Democrats this year.

Posted by: stacy | September 13, 2008 2:46 PM

What about energy? Obama needs to address that since energy effects the economy. He has said he will invest 150 billion over ten years in alternatives that will lead us to energy independence. What about now? What if there are environmental challenges to alternative fuels or if development isn't rapid enough? We need to develop oil and natural gas resiurces now as we work to bring the alternatives on line. Obama is tied to the environmentalists who will oppose any new oil and gas initiatives. If you fall for his $150 billion dollar altenatives plan, you might want to get a bike or a good pair of walking shoes because you are going to have to park your car. Obama is not being straight with the American people on this issue.

Posted by: Jeff in Orlando | September 13, 2008 2:46 PM

If you like $4 a gallon gas and $8 an hour jobs with no heath benefits topped with higher taxes, then vote for McMoose. If you want something better, give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:45 PM

Todd Palin endorses US treason and extreme radical secession.

Read the full story here:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpC0ED5JB9qx1iUsd9xz-dBbwWBwD92UTA501

Posted by: steve | September 13, 2008 2:44 PM

I am voting Mccain to keep america safe. Obama is too risky and dangerous.

Posted by: linda | September 13, 2008 2:44 PM

In time of high inflation, holding large amount of cash is not exactly a good thing to do whether it is in the bank or at home. Heck, there is nothing the average people can do in that situation.

Posted by: Cheryl | September 13, 2008 2:44 PM

Sen. John McCain has proved himself to be unqualified and incapable of effectively leading the United States of America into the future by, among other things, his reckless, irresponsible, impulsive, and dangerous judgment in picking Sarah Palin as his running mate. Sarah Palin is a minor distraction not even worthy of discussion. However, Sen. John McCain has shown his contempt for the intelligence of the American people by making this unequivocally cynical decision to use an unknown, untested, and corrupt, serial liar like Sarah Palin to deceive voters into believing he stands for change. Sen. John McCain also disgraced himself by demonstrating a lack of courage in his choice of Sarah Palin at the last moment over much more qualified Republican men and women simply because she appeals to the base of the Republican Party, a group of voters he was going to lose. What Sen. John McCain doesn't understand is that by appeasing the extreme right wing of the Republican Party, he is going to lose the voters that really count, i.e., moderate and independent voters, and, in doing so, certainly lose the election. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1043793620080910?feedType=nl&feedName=ustopnewsafternoon

According to the Pentagon, we are losing Afghanistan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7610405.stm

"No victory in Iraq, says Petraeus"

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 13, 2008 2:43 PM

Could you point to the part in the article that reports on what Obama had to say about his plans for the economy? After all it is in the title...or was that it?

Posted by: dan | September 13, 2008 2:43 PM

Are Obamabots brainless?

They don't care about american people and support the radical Obama and his friends?

Shame on you.. Fools! look around and see what Islamic Terrorists are killing innocent people.

Keep america safe. Vote McCain/Palin.

Obama has radical friends and we do not know what he really believes. He himself said that he is a muslim in abc interview past weekend.

Posted by: tim | September 13, 2008 2:43 PM

Is this comment board unmoderated? What's going on with all the 'bots untruthfully trying to link Obama to bombings in India and Islamic terrorism? Moderator (is there one out there), note how all the comments are the same?

Also, is the repeated phrase -- I hate even to type is -- "damn n" not offensive? I find it so.

Posted by: Jean | September 13, 2008 2:43 PM

You need to learn more about radical Alaskans. How can we trust a person whose best friends say they don't want anything to do with America's "damned institutions"?

God protect those being spied upon by Alaskan islands. These Alaskan islands will prove a menace to the world.

We can't allow the leader of a socialist state, who is hellbent on destroying America by giving hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal budget to lazy Alaskans, to enter the White House.

Sarah Palin: do you know who her friends are?

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 2:43 PM

Fundamental Islamic Terrorists attacked innocent people in india.

http://www.eitb24.com/new/en/B24_110899/world-news/BLAST-Five-bombs-explode-in-Indian-capital-18-killed/

Vote McCain and keep america safe. We cannot trust obama to keep us safe. He has radical fiends like Wright, Rezko, Kilpatrick, Ayers and Dhorn.

God Bless america and we pray for victims of terrorist bombings in india.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:41 PM

The result of Bush/McCain economics...BBC News "Europe's major economies contract
The 15 economies of the eurozone contracted by 0.2% between April and June, heightening fears that the euro area is sliding towards recession. "
Wake up People!!!


Posted by: Jerry | September 13, 2008 2:40 PM

Obama:"During difficult times, during moments of tragedy, the American people come together"

Biden should have been allowed to be there as was Michelle Obama on Sept11 memorial in New York.

Posted by: pete | September 13, 2008 2:38 PM

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJo4OAMGB0xNXoQfikJ5Nk2cD52AD935VV5O0

India's Capital is attacked by Radical Muslim Terrorists. Killed several people in 3 markets. See the developing story.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:38 PM

Do not let America be overcome by these radical Alaskan secessionists, who support treason and believe in Alaska first. They have been funneling hundreds of millions of dollars a year from the Congressional budget via pork barrel spending in order to become wealthy enough to secede from the union entirely. They have taken more money per person from the federal budget than any other state--all in the efforts to raise the deficit and destroy America from within.

Now one of them wants to become vice president so that she can have the power to remove Alaska from the union. She is merely a puppet for their plans.

Think about where she comes from. Alaska, which is a socialist state that gives out multi-thousand dollar checks from windfall oil taxes and drilling revenues. These people don't work. That's why they have so much time to fish and hunt.

We must protect our nation from these traitors and prevent them from getting into the white house where they will work to destroy the lower 48.

May God protect those in Russia who are being spied on those on an island in Alaska.

Ask yourself, what is Sarah Palin doing with such treasonous friends, who spread radical extremism: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:38 PM

India under Islamic terror ATTACK. Fundamental Islamic Terrorists attacked indian capital. They bombed 3 market places killing innocent people.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.wthgAuDhbM&refer=home

Vote McCain and keep america safe. Obama is dangerous.

Posted by: Mark | September 13, 2008 2:37 PM

Hello People...Has anyone checked the FDIC on the internet to see how many banks are failing due to Bush's economic policies which McCain would continue...Watch this week and see what happens to the banks as Leman fails....that is unless Bush and his boys the Treasury and Fed Reserve use the taxpayers money again to Leman out again doubling our debt and moving us from recession to depression...look at the prices...runaway inflation befor the BIG FAll...better get off the blogs and get to your banks if you have any money that is after Bush/McCain has given it all to the upper 1% who have used it for greed not to create more jobs...look at the rise in joblessness..Don't tell me I didn't tell you so...

Posted by: Cheryl | September 13, 2008 2:37 PM

W's dad was in business with bin laden's brother but that didn't keep you from voting for him now did it? Just go ahead and give the damn n a chance will you?

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:35 PM

Fundamental Islamic Terrorists attacked Indian Capital. They bombed 3 markets during the shopping killing several.

My Dear Americans, Islamic Terrorism and Threat is real.

Vote McCain who can protect us from these fundamental Islamic Terrorists who are killing innocent people.

Obama with his radical ties cannot be trusted. His muslim background is dangerous.

Posted by: louis | September 13, 2008 2:35 PM

Why is he still running that offensive ad mocking McCain's war injuries?. If he had any honor and was a gentleman he would pull it.

Posted by: kanawa1 | September 13, 2008 2:34 PM

Give 'em hell, Barack! It is time to call out the Republican liars who are, indeed, running as disreputable a campaign as the hit job on Max Cleland and the John Kerry swift-boating. When you consider what these Bush campaign guys running McCain's campaign did to him in South Carolina in 2000 it just blows your mind. John - do you even recognize yourself in the mirror these days?

Posted by: Chuck | September 13, 2008 2:33 PM

How does economy issues matter to innocent people who just got killed by those crazy fundamental islamic terrorists in India's capital New Delhi?

How does any other issues matter to them?

What matters is our security and that is the primary issue. Obama is weak and he cannot protect us from Fundamental islamic terrorists.

What matters is the security of the citizens and we cannot trust obama to protect us in this dangerous world.

Obama has ties to radical pastor wright, convicted criminal rezko, fraud mayor kilpatrick, terrorists ayers and dhorn, radical black muslim from soudi arabia khalid-al-mansour who funded his harvard education for a reason..god knows what.

Vote McCain and keep this country safe and secure from fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: martha | September 13, 2008 2:33 PM

"Then you pathetic excuses for human beings called Republicans can feel what it is like to not have your voices heard."

Am I reading this right? If I vote for Obama someone will listen to me. If I vote Republican, Obama will not listen to me. It sounds like we get 4 more years of the same thing no matter who we vote for.

Posted by: Billie Blanco | September 13, 2008 2:32 PM

People who haven't gotten obamas message haven't been listening or don't know how to work the captioning on their tv.
Give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:31 PM

Hussein obama is dangerous. He has radical muslim ties Khalid-al-mansour who funded his harvard education. Khalidi, Auchi.. his own brothers are muslims. His father was a muslim.

I am sacred about this radical

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:31 PM

hey deport_the_dems, why should anyone even address your slander? Given your screen name, you don't think people who disagree with you should even be allowed to stay in the country. How is that American? I'm sick of this "us" versus "them" garbage. I love this country, and support this country. Right wing hatemongers like you don't own it and you don't represent American values.

Posted by: ethel08 | September 13, 2008 2:30 PM

Guys! Fundamental Islamic Terrorists attacked Indian Capital New Delhi. They bombed 3 markets killing innocent people. Threat of Islamic Terrorists are real.

Given Obama's background and Character along with his radical muslim friends, He cannot be trusted to protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.wthgAuDhbM&refer=home

We need to vote McCain/Palin into oval office to keep this country safe and secure. Keep the terrorists on defence at their turf.


Our prayers to Terrorist bombing victims family in India's capital.

Posted by: kim | September 13, 2008 2:29 PM

It's amazing how many people excuse McCain and Palin's bald-faced lies and low and sleazy campaigns and instead choose to attack Obama for his middle name and false Muslims ties. There's this notion that McCain can keep us safe and Obama can't. In fact, judging from this campaign, McCain seems perfectly content to drag this country down the drain. Obama continues to be responsible and intelligent. May the best man win..........

Posted by: Thomas | September 13, 2008 2:28 PM

Just like obamabots, there must have been muslim apeasing people in India because of which these fundamentalists gained ground and now killing innocent people there..

We need to get McCain into oval office and cannot take chances with Obama and his radical friends.

Keep america Safe by defending the freedom keeping Fundamental Islamic Terrorists at their turf in middleeast.

Do not get fooled by Obama and his radical friends.

Posted by: Tom | September 13, 2008 2:28 PM

"The McCain-Palin ticket, they don't want to debate the Obama-Biden ticket on the issues because they're running on eight more years,"

Holy crap, I just cannot believe this idiot said this. Does his people stay high all the time ? Who has been after Obama's ass since last year wanting to have twelve debates ? Obama's people has refused. What kind of fools does the Obama people think the public is ?

Posted by: apache | September 13, 2008 2:27 PM

You libs better go out and buy your turbins and bath robes to show support at your next rally. Obama would like that.

Posted by: Frank | September 13, 2008 2:26 PM

Tell me how does economy or other trivial issues matter to innocent people who just got killed by those crazy fundamental islamic terrorists in India's capital New Delhi?

What matters is the security of the citizens and we cannot trust obama to protect us in this dangerous world.

Obama has ties to radical pastor wright, convicted criminal rezko, fraud mayor kilpatrick, terrorists ayers and dhorn, radical black muslim from soudi arabia khalid-al-mansour who funded his harvard education for a reason..god knows what.

Vote McCain and keep this country safe and secure from fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:25 PM

I just hope that Obama is able to articulate a positive vision, rather than only talking about the negative events of the campaign and of the past 8 years. He needs to get back to simpler, more hopeful messages about his values: hard work, responsibility, community.

Posted by: ethel08 | September 13, 2008 2:25 PM

Is it just me or did the republican convention seem like the Klan gathering in O brother where art thou? give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:21 PM

I was also at the rally today. It was a wonderful experience, the park was jam-packed with people who really love their country. I was also struck by the absence of "personal attacks" on McCain. He only (rightly) attacked the lies that McCain's lobbyist-driven campaign is trying to propagate. Tucker Bounds is an incompetent, ignorant mouthpiece who peddles hateful propaganda. He has no constructive thoughts to offer, so he projects his own corrupt, dirty impulses onto Obama. He is a blatant opportunist who would sell his own mother if it would advance his cause. (Exhibit A: the 'hookers and blow' party the GOP threw on the first day of the RNC, during the height of Hurricane Gustav). I'm disgusted by McCain's dirty smear campaign. I supported him in 2000, but he's really sold his honor to the highest bidder--the lobbyists and the super right-wingers of the GOP. Obama is trying to get us to shed our cynicism, embrace our most noble qualities of service and humility, and work together to solve our collective problems. McCain and his campaign is instead asking us to embrace our most dirty, racist, hateful, and ignorant tendencies, and to stop thinking about ways we might actually develop solutions to our problems. It's really striking how the McCain supporters who comment on this site and others whip out the racist ("Barry Hussein") and the ad hominem ("lame brains") because they are unable to defend McCain's policies like rational adults. With the economy collapsing, over 40 million Americans lacking health insurance, and two foreign wars that are draining our pockets and our credibility, is this really what we need?

Posted by: Sophia | September 13, 2008 2:19 PM

Bill Burton issued a statement of his own. "We will take no lectures from John McCain who is cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern Presidential campaign history," he said in an e-mail. "His discredited ads with disgusting lies are running all over the country today. He runs a campaign not worthy of the office his is seeking."

Amen.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 2:14 PM

It is truly sickening to sit here and read the venomous and worthless vitriol and stupidity of people like "laughing at the dems." Who's laughing you idiot? Bush had a 200 Billion Surplus that is now a 500 billion deficit. Bush and all who voted for him have blood on their hands and are responsible for 4000 dead Americans and 100,000 dead Iraqis. Katrina, The Republican's homosexual scandals with page boys in Congress, the countless corrupt Republicans who have fallen through scandals and lies, a 7 trillion dollar debt ( Bush financed the war through the Chinese), a failed economy...etc. 8 Years of disaster. McSame and his incompetent hillbilly gun toting barbie doll will certainly bring this country to ruin. The Republicans and their stupidity, unconsciousness, and narcissism are clearly to blame. This country is going to hell in a hand basket and idiots like "laughing at the dems" are to blame. Well don;t you worry...because we are going to turn out in droves come November to elect Barack Obama president. Then you pathetic excuses for human beings called Republicans can feel what it is like to not have your voices heard.

Posted by: Repubs Suck | September 13, 2008 2:14 PM

That bus will be running on alternative fuels but only if you give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:13 PM

Tell me how does economy or other trivial issues matter to innocent people who just got killed by those crazy fundamental islamic terrorists in India's capital New Delhi?

What matters is the security of the citizens and we cannot trust obama to protect us in this dangerous world.

Obama has ties to radical pastor wright, convicted criminal rezko, fraud mayor kilpatrick, terrorists ayers and dhorn, radical black muslim from soudi arabia khalid-al-mansour who funded his harvard education for a reason..god knows what.

Vote McCain and keep this country safe and secure from fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: Rick | September 13, 2008 2:11 PM

Hey, vote McCain-Palin! And get four more years of this same unremitting lying dreck, while our once-great nation continues its sorry slide downhill to hell.

But if you'd like for things to start actually getting better, vote Obama-Biden.

Posted by: oldhonky | September 13, 2008 2:10 PM

Hey Mike, defense its spelled with an s, not a c.

Like J-McC, you might want to get your facts straight before you run off at the mouth my friend.

Posted by: MJarvis | September 13, 2008 2:10 PM

More obama lies and deception. If he can throw his white grand mother under the bus for political benifit, It will not take him long to throw all of us under the bus for his radical friends and terrorists.

I pray for indian people who got killed in this inhuman attack by Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: ken | September 13, 2008 2:08 PM

Miss moosewad of 1984 is under investigation by representatives of her own constituancy in wasilla, the town where she grew up. She lies, she turns, she ducks and dives. How clever she is. Just what we need in the Presidents chair.
Give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:08 PM

It's about time. We've all been waiting patiently for J-McC to make good on his claim to be honroable and do the right thing but it's clear now that he won't. So I say Give' em hell Barack! Yeah!

Posted by: MJarvis | September 13, 2008 2:07 PM

Guys! Fundamental Islamic Terrorists attacked Indian Capital New Delhi. They bombed 3 markets killing innocent people. Threat of Islamic Terrorists are real.

Given Obama's background and Character along with his radical muslim friends, He cannot be trusted to protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.wthgAuDhbM&refer=home

We need to vote McCain/Palin into oval office to keep this country safe and secure. Keep the terrorists on defence at their turf.

Posted by: mike | September 13, 2008 2:06 PM

McCain and Palin make me sad for America! Putting country first got lost in McCain's ambition and what now looks like very poor judgment in choosing Palin. And to tell out and out lies on in ads about Obama brings me back to why I am sad for America. Vote Obama!!!

Posted by: john | September 13, 2008 2:05 PM

The obama campaign is now a joke. They have no idea what to do now. It's a disaster and blowing up. Funny, the great Messiah can't figure out what to do.

Posted by: libsrstuoid | September 13, 2008 2:05 PM

Obama scales back campaign events in Ike's wake from The Associated Press. We are all scaling back ...

This is for everyone affected by Ike. Hang in there ...

Isaiah 40:31
"But they that wait upon the LORD
shall renew their strength;
they shall mount up with wings as EAGLES
they shall run, and not be weary;
and they shall walk, and not faint"

This is a responding to the political part of this article ....

Schmit and Rove campaign ads scare everyone because they are branding the Media as “Piranhas!”, Democrats are “Wolves” and talented Artists are just lite “Celebrities” without talent and their voice doesn't count. Schmidt and Rove have branded Palin as their Barracuda and Pit Bull.

Now Schmit and Rove are attempting to play the victim when ever the Democrat's response or the mainstream media starts asking the questions that are on the minds of the voters.

This will be the election that will be studied by historians. How did they do it? They took out everyone with negative ads and then created their own celebrity who is running on a open playing field now. Barracuda and Pit Bull running down field carrying the football. Can a goldfish stop them. I'm checking out a video - Trained Goldfish Performs Amazing Tricks!!. Can all talking dogs stop them? I look at the video -Talking Dogs. This election may decided by a gold fish and all talking dogs taking on Schmidt and Rove's Barracuda and Pit Bull. I have faith in the gold fish who says “No worries Team. Everything is going to be all right!” Our Goldfish runs onto the playing field to take on Schmidt and Rove's Barracuda. A determined mutt joins our gold fish to take on Schmidt and Rove's Pit Bull. Our team's anthem is U2 - Beautiful Day video.

Democrats and Obamacans's courting all Republican and Independent Voters!

Over 70 retired generals and admirals have endorsed Obama/Biden '08

Hope and Change backed by strength.

Our World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

Obamacan's - “The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.”
William F. Buckley, Jr. quote

The real change team for the last 19 months
Change we can believe in.

Vote Obama/Biden '08


Posted by: Cooday | September 13, 2008 2:03 PM

Did Obama have his Styrofoam columns at the big outdoor rally? Has he ever figured out there's only 50 states in this country yet? Maybe he didn't learn how many states there were when he was running is Law Review newspaper. I wonder if he knows how many Bush doctrine's there are? Well in the mean time McCain is ahead in electorial votes on the electorate map. I think Obama may be able to pick up the delicates for States 51 through 57 though.

Posted by: Frank | September 13, 2008 2:02 PM

Mr. McCain should consider this:

"For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"

Posted by: Mark 8:36 | September 13, 2008 2:00 PM

Even with the election hinging on energy, the refiners cannot resist gouging motorists for every dollar they can.
Vote for your own interests for a change.
Give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 2:00 PM

yea im nuts. nuts about saving you brainwashed sheep from yourselves. you are trying to give your heritage to the Muslims via Barry Hussein and you cannot see it. Sold to you under the guise of 'getting the man' and driven by a bunch of washed out old hippie socialist..ie Ayers

if thats nuts.....im all in. College wasn't that long ago. I remember the how it seemed my parents politicians had it all wrong. some of it they did

but not the part where we sell our country to rest of the world to be 'liked' and 'popular'

listen to how many lame brains say we should govern ourselves based on what the rest of the world wants

do you run your house based on what your neighbors want ?

Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 13, 2008 1:57 PM

I was also at the rally today. The thing I noticed most was that there were no "personal attacks" about McCain. I thought there might be after what has gone on the last few weeks from the McCain camp. Obama was tough on McCain about the issues but the only thing he said about him personally was how much we should appreciate his service to this country. It amazes me how the McCain campaign comes out with this spin about "personal attacks". I was there, there were NO personal attacks. It makes me sick to my stomach when I realize how the McCain campaign is using and manipulating the American people so that they can win. Frankly it disgusts me.

Posted by: Janet | September 13, 2008 1:55 PM

Hell of a speech by Obama and that John Mccain runs for office on a pack of lies. John McCain...you've lost your honor and it is shameful.

Posted by: Jerry | September 13, 2008 1:51 PM

keep it up lib's, all you ever have is slander, ad hominem and smears

why don't you discuss BO's history ? why don't you respond to Biden's corrupt family and his penchant for stealing others work ?

Posted by: deport_the_libs | September 13, 2008 1:50 PM

"laughing at the dems':
you must be nuts.
what is your real name,and do you live on this planet?

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 1:50 PM

Oil companies backing republicans are responsible for the coming recession. High energy prices have preceeded every modern economic downturn since world war 2. Free market forces cannot exist in an energy monopoly.
Obama might be able regulate our resources to a small degree, anything would be preferrable the profit orgy that is taking place today.
Give the n a chance.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 1:49 PM

@laughing at the dems

How is that Kool-aid? Are you looking for that birth certificate too?

Posted by: Ben | September 13, 2008 1:47 PM

With John McCain 72, he doesn't have another chance to run for President so he has to pull out all the stops. Sarah Palin -- what a choice! It's amazing how people are all excited about someone who has trouble being interviewed and knows so little about current issues. Let's see if McCain and company will let her be interviewed on the Sunday morning talk shows -- I doubt it. Each new interview reveals how little she knows about social security, medicare and the federal government. Knowing so little, how can we expect her to hit the ground running?

Posted by: simple truth | September 13, 2008 1:45 PM

laura, where can we send money to help you leave ? you don't need to wait

In an August 23 article on Sen. Barack Obama's selection of Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) as his vice-presidential running mate, the Los Angeles Times reported that "when he ran for president in 1988, Biden was accused of plagiarism when he did not credit Neil Kinnock, then leader of the British Labor Party, for much of his stump speech." Similarly, in an August 23 article, The New York Times reported that Biden "was forced to quit the 1988 presidential race in the face of accusations that he had plagiarized part of a speech from Neil Kinnock," and in an August 23 article, the Associated Press reported that Biden's 1988 run for president "ended badly" after he "was caught lifting lines from a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/joe_bidens_plagiarism_problem.html

Bidens kids...right Obama, lobbyist are bad ?

son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.

The Democratic vice presidential candidate's son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.

The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden's involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.

A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.


so let's talk about 'judgment' libs. He threw Hillary over the cliff for this guy ?


let's see how long the dems and libs keep telling us how honest mr obama is as this gets ready to launch

http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/why_obama_is_mum.htm

what lifted Obama from obscurity to national prominence in such a short time you may wonder ?

why not ask Percy Sutton, the most powerful civil right activist in New York

We know enough about Obama’s Columbia grades to know how far they fall below the Harvard norm, likely even below the affirmative action-adjusted black norm at Harvard.

As far back as 1988, however, Obama had serious pull. He would need it. As previously reported, Khalid al-Mansour, principal adviser to Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, lobbied friends like Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton to intervene at Harvard on Obama’s behalf.

An orthodox Muslim, al-Mansour has not met the crackpot anti-Semitic theory he could not embrace. As for bin Talal, in October 2001, New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sent his $10 million relief check back un-cashed after the Saudi billionaire blamed 9/11 on America.

Posted by: laughing at the dems | September 13, 2008 1:44 PM

@TommyF

Way to buy into the sex ed lies. Dishonest campaigns work best on people who are not willing to think, a trait you have clearly exemplified for us all to see.

Posted by: Ben | September 13, 2008 1:43 PM

But Obama did picked Biden for his VP candidate whose own son is intimately linked to Washington lobbyists inner circle.
Scrapping his own running mate Biden only shows how cynical Obama really is.

Posted by: pete | September 13, 2008 1:43 PM

When Bush entered office people were discussing how they could rebate taxpayers because of so much money in the treasury..now the world economies including the US are on the verge of economic collapse (see Market Oracle.com) Why because there has been no regulation of the finacial industry (who gauge the poor and average people with rediculous interest charges that keep them in debt for life)and because giving tax breaks to the wealthy does not generate jobs look at the jobless rate. Instead greed and deception have replaced job creation....this is McCain's economic policy as it was Bush's. My advice get your money out of the bank as they are beginning to crash!!! and hold on because the inflation rate in this country is going to make Zimbaway look like Disneyland.
And under Bush's/McCain's economic policies, we are moving from demoncacy to socialism:
"The U.S. government's decision to take control of foundering mortgage giants Fannie Mae ( FNM ) and Freddie Mac ( FRE ) was driven not by worries about the fading U.S. housing market, but by concerns that foreign central banks in China, Japan, Europe, the Middle East and Russia might stop buying our bonds.
Our country is now dependent on the charity of strangers who may not even like us. The Fed's hand may have been forced by threats of foreign central banks of selling their mortgage bonds and causing even more devastation in the mortgage market. But the bailout option is also very slippery and expensive , according to Mish. We are between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Cheryl | September 13, 2008 1:41 PM

I was at the rally today -- I'd say there was probably more like 10 to 12,000 people there. Of all stripes, colors and backgrounds--blue collar, professionals, veterans, families, seniors, young people.

This is what America looks like. Obama represents America.

Posted by: Blue Blood | September 13, 2008 1:39 PM

It's about time they don't let that old ass man get away with all that lies

Posted by: dennis | September 13, 2008 1:39 PM

Let's see..

"no more of the old politics" - it looks like MUCH more of the old politics... from both sides... Obama worse because his standard was so high

"disgusting lies" -- ?? -- how is it disgusting that Obama signed a bill for sex ed for kindergartners? So he signed it. Personally, I think it's a non-issue. If Obama would just say, "So what?" then no one would think he's ashamed... disgusting? .. Only Obama has claimed this

Posted by: TommyF | September 13, 2008 1:37 PM

"My friends.........."

My a$$.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 1:36 PM

I see that Biden jr. has decided he doesn't want to be a lobbyist any longer. He made enough $ taking advantage of his name. Obama and Biden are talking out of both side of their mouth about lobbyist when they have one in the family.

Obama says he wants to debatge the issues but ducks out on McCain's invitation to do so.

If BS was $ Obama could pay for all of his promises of new give away programs.


Posted by: Ken | September 13, 2008 1:35 PM

John McCain is a sell-out and exposed he is just a typical Republican politician by picking Palin. He picked her to appease his base, poach Hillary votes and stoke a culture divide. Even Britain and Europe know Obama is the better candidate.

The only people who don’t get it are the brainwashed right-wing puppets who think that just because someone has a speech draw and likes to fish that somehow makes politicians just like them or the best candidate to run the government. I like Clint Eastwood too, that doesn’t mean he should run the country. Are we really this foolish? Palin wasn’t the best or most qualified, it’s because mcCain knew she would be a draw to small town America whom they are duping (Sara Palin ain’t like you, folks).

How is this being a "maverick"? How is it ‘Country First”? How is this “I rather win a war than loose an election”? I’ll say it again, John McCain is a sell-out. Obama said it pretty accurately too - Lipstick on a pig, is still a pig.

The most important metric for picking a VP is they are ready to step in from day one. His judgment is reckless and he gambled at our expense. The mere fact Palin is being educated on foreign policy and is avoiding the press indicates she wasn’t prepared on day one. She is running for the second highest office, but can’t answer questions from the press or public? This doesn’t alarm anyone?

I lost all my respect for John McCain. He's not the hero today he was 35 years ago. McCain is nothing without Palin.

What does it say about a campaign that has to "mimic" what and whom Obama is, not to mention hijack Obamas core message of Change from day one just to poach votes? Is that all they view Obama as, a "product" a "formula", a “personality”? It makes McCain look weak and more importantly, the American people stupid if they fall for it.

Now all these puppets are willing to just get behind her without even knowing anything about her and try to convince the American public she is prepared to be VP or President? Not even uncertain objectiveness, caution, pause or question just because she has an "R" in front of her name? How can anyone make a honest, clear determination reasonably in less than 60 days.

Bravo America! We look like complete idiots once again while the world watches. I am truly embarrassed of my country. I guess all isn’t lost, at least many will have Palin’s eye glass frames while our country crumbles economically. We are such tools.

If Palin/McCain win I'm leaving this country. I’m not paying for a war that should have never happened or failed Bush policies any more than I already have.

British Prime Minister Backs Obama
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2008/09/brown-backs-oba.htm

World wants Obama
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world

Posted by: Laura | September 13, 2008 1:33 PM

John McCain is a sell-out and exposed he is just a typical Republican politician by picking Palin. He picked her to appease his base, poach Hillary votes and stoke a culture divide. Even Britain and Europe know Obama is the better candidate.

The only people who don’t get it are the brainwashed right-wing puppets who think that just because someone has a speech draw and likes to fish that somehow makes politicians just like them or the best candidate to run the government. I like Clint Eastwood too, that doesn’t mean he should run the country. Are we really this foolish? Palin wasn’t the best or most qualified, it’s because mcCain knew she would be a draw to small town America whom they are duping (Sara Palin ain’t like you, folks).

How is this being a "maverick"? How is it ‘Country First”? How is this “I rather win a war than loose an election”? I’ll say it again, John McCain is a sell-out. Obama said it pretty accurately too - Lipstick on a pig, is still a pig.

The most important metric for picking a VP is they are ready to step in from day one. His judgment is reckless and he gambled at our expense. The mere fact Palin is being educated on foreign policy and is avoiding the press indicates she wasn’t prepared on day one. She is running for the second highest office, but can’t answer questions from the press or public? This doesn’t alarm anyone?

I lost all my respect for John McCain. He's not the hero today he was 35 years ago. McCain is nothing without Palin.

What does it say about a campaign that has to "mimic" what and whom Obama is, not to mention hijack Obamas core message of Change from day one just to poach votes? Is that all they view Obama as, a "product" a "formula", a “personality”? It makes McCain look weak and more importantly, the American people stupid if they fall for it.

Now all these puppets are willing to just get behind her without even knowing anything about her and try to convince the American public she is prepared to be VP or President? Not even uncertain objectiveness, caution, pause or question just because she has an "R" in front of her name? How can anyone make a honest, clear determination reasonably in less than 60 days.

Bravo America! We look like complete idiots once again while the world watches. I am truly embarrassed of my country. I guess all isn’t lost, at least many will have Palin’s eye glass frames while our country crumbles economically. We are such tools.

If Palin/McCain win I'm leaving this country. I’m not paying for a war that should have never happened or failed Bush policies any more than I already have.

British Prime Minister Backs Obama
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2008/09/brown-backs-oba.htm

World wants Obama
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world

Posted by: Laura | September 13, 2008 1:33 PM

Aides to Gov. Sarah Palin are scrambling to explain details of her only trip outside North America -- which, according to a new report, did not include Iraq, as the McCain-Palin campaign had initially claimed.

I wonder if she too came under sniper fire.

Posted by: str8up | September 13, 2008 1:33 PM

I agree, John McCain and Sarah Palin are liars, bald faced liars. How can americans even consider voting for these people. How can women see Sarah the liar as a positive roll model? Is that what women want? To be measured against such opportunistic liars? Is that what christians hold up as their ideal? I thought christians were supposed to be honest and honorable. I see no honor or honesty in John McCain or Sarah Palin. John McCain is running a campaign not worthy of the office. He is not worthy of the presidency. Sarah Palin is not worthy of the vice presidency.

Posted by: HonestyFirst | September 13, 2008 1:32 PM

Barack Hussein Obama is not ready to be the President of this country. He lacks any credible experience. He was groomed by the Democratic party for this election, and the rushed process is evident in his unintelligible political answers to simple, straightforward questions. Only minorities and young people will be ignorant enough vote for this guy without fully researching his lack of a record.

Posted by: Jim | September 13, 2008 1:30 PM

So Obama supporters are disappearing already? only 8000 people?

Posted by: tony | September 13, 2008 1:26 PM

I don't think the American still get it. Bush won by lying and destorying McCain and the American people bought into Bush's lies. Now again after the party of McCain plunged the country into ditchs they are still buying the lies of McCain. McCain is pandering and the notion that country is first utterly false.

I don't feel sorry for these Blue-collar workers, they seem to vote against their interest.

Posted by: Larry | September 13, 2008 1:25 PM

While Obama seems to be able to draw a crowd, Team Obama can't seem to get organized in cyberspace. The on-line real-time poll at http://www.boppoll.com shows a weak effort by Team Obama to get McCain's number up. Why can't team Obama get 5000 people on-line to bop JMcCain at the same time. The number would really jump! Come on Team Obama, let's rally and get organized! Let's get the bops out!!!!!

Posted by: Where are the 8000? | September 13, 2008 1:22 PM

That laughing you hear from the general direction of K Street is the collective effort of the thousands of lobbyists responding to the McCain-Palin pledge of "shaking up Washington."

The only shaking "up" you're going to see is Wayne Berman's retainer.

Obama asked a couple weeks ago in Michigan, "What, do they think you are stupid?"

Yes, they do.

And, yes, they are.

Posted by: McLobbyist | September 13, 2008 1:16 PM

I find it laughable that Obama claims that McCain-Palin doesn't want to debate him. McCain was the one calling for 10 townhalls and he turned down the townhalls. Will the media call Obama out on this lie? Doubt it.

Posted by: Kate | September 13, 2008 1:11 PM

The McCain campaign is a travesty, truth is what they decide it should be, not fact.

The lies spewing from McCain and Palin's mouths are beyond belief.

If this is how McCain puts " Country First"
then lies and deceit are the norm and should serve both of them well should they be elected.

Surely to god they cannot believe that Americans are that gullible and stupid to swallow their lies.

God help America if it believes that McCain and Palin are going to help solve the many crisis's that envelope America.

Posted by: Larry the Cable Guy | September 13, 2008 1:05 PM

The only fools that claim that HRC supporters are fully behind NObama now are Nob's media prostitute pals and Nob woshipping gutter rat groupies.

It cracks me up how media prostitutes like Roland Martin and other Nob pimps claim on TV that all HRC supporters are behind Nob now. How would these pimps know? From day one, these media prostitutes have been pimping for Nob and trashing HRC using race and sex cards. Now they speak for us?

I don't see any more polls lately how many HRC supporters are for NOb or Mac, and how many will sit home. Perhaps the media prostitutes are afraid to do those polls, because it will burst their gas bubble. The last time we checked, around the time of Nob coronation in Denver, fully 1/3 of HRC supporters were supporting Mac now, and only 1/2 were committed to Nob.

Is it any surprise that there has been a 20 pt swing among white women towards Mac away from Nob since Palin selection? Where do the gutter rat groupies of Nob think those swings came from? From HRC supporting women, that's who.

So, take all your theories such as "HRC supporters will never vote Mac, and against their own interest", and stuff them in your nether regions. HRC supporters know our self interest is in seeing HRC in the WH on Jan 21, 2013. And the only way that can happen is if we vote against Nob on Nov 4, 2008.

Posted by: intcamd1 | September 13, 2008 1:05 PM

JOHN MCCAIN WROTE:

Hello, I’m John McCain, a former POW.

I keep telling you that I am the original Maverick. That’s not quite true. James Garner was the “original” maverick, but I did used to be a maverick.

In 2000, I ran for president. George W. Bush beat me for the nomination by lying about me. He became president and won reelection. I learned a valuable lesson: Lying works!

I’ve hired the best liars I can find, men who learned from Karl Rove. They saw that I was a maverick, so they lassoed me, corralled me, and turned me into a gelding. They taught me how to lie, and even to deny lying when I’m caught lying. It has worked for George Bush for eight years.

I know I’ve violated the Navy Code of Honor, but, you know what, I’m not in the Navy anymore. They got tired of me after I crashed those five planes. I’ll show them!! I'll become Commander-in-Chief and crash all the planes I want!

Anyway, even though I’ve lost all my integrity and am an embarrassment to my country, vote for me. I’m an old man, and this is my last chance. Did I tell you I used to be a POW?

I’m John McCain, once a maverick but now a gelding, and I approved this message.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 1:04 PM

PALIN ACCUSED OF CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND,
http://www.theveep.com

Posted by: MIKE | September 13, 2008 1:00 PM

Proclaimed redneck and the Stud who got Sarah Palins Daughter Pregnant.
http://www.hotpres.com


THE PALIN DUI?
http://www.duihelpguide.com


See Obama and McCain in the 9/11 forum.
watch the entire forum at http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 12:59 PM

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