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Obama Raised $66 Million in August

Updated 2:50 p.m.
By Matthew Mosk
Democrat Barack Obama again shattered the monthly record for presidential fundraising, bringing in $66 million in August, according to figures his campaign released this morning.

Obama started September with $77 million in the bank and is rapidly closing in on raising a half-billion dollars for his presidential bid. He easily outraised Republican John McCain in August, even as McCain raised a personal best of $47 million heading into the party conventions.

But Obama's enormous fundraising haul may not be enough to put him in solid financial command of the 2008 presidential contest.

That's because both candidates are running with the financial backing of their respective parties. The Republican National Committee has consistently raised significantly more than its Democratic counterpart. Early reports indicate that, in August, the DNC again fell far short in fundraising, though the party has yet to make public its totals. Those are due to the Federal Election Commission no later than Sept. 20.

GOP sources say the RNC raised $23 million in August, and through its various state and federal accounts, the Republican party started September with over $110 million at its disposal for the presidential contest.

That money is on top of the $84 million in federal funds McCain received Sept. 1 after deciding to accept the conditions of the presidential public financing system.

Unlike Obama, McCain won't be permitted to keep raising money for his campaign. But McCain, and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, have aggressive plans to continue soliciting contributions for the RNC. RNC officials said today that the party's fundraising is experiencing a dramatic uptick in contributions. Online contributions have quadrupled since McCain named Palin as his running mate, the officials said.

Obama supporters said today they believe, even with the mismatch in party fundraising, the Democratic candidate will continue to set the pace.

In August, Obama expanded his already enormous list of donors, adding more than 500,000 first-time donors in August and bringing to 2.5 million the number of people who have contributed to his campaign since he kicked it off at the start of 2007.

The number of donors is significant because most of those who have given have not yet reached the $2,300 contribution limit. That means Obama has a huge pool of supporters to return to this month and next as he seeks to cover the expensive final weeks of campaigning.

Fundraisers for Obama's campaign said they already believe September will surpass August in money raised, thanks in part to its own wave of new donations that followed McCain's selection of Palin. They said the Alaska governor's conservative positions have helped galvanize the Democratic donor base in ways they had not seen previously.

Obama campaign officials have repeatedly used the size of the Illinois senator's donor list as a key reason why they are justified casting the Obama-Biden campaign a grassroots movement, and that continued today.

"John McCain says that he'll take on the special interests and lobbyists, but McCain can't fix a problem he's been part of for three decades. The 500,000 new donors to the Obama campaign demonstrate just how strongly the American people are looking to kick the special interests out and change Washington," said David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager, in a statement.

Obama's August total surpassed the previous record for a month of fundraising, $55 million, itself set by Obama in February.

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Again...mor rhetoric (quite inflammatory) from people.

So..on the issues:

Lower taxes = John McCain
Higer taxes = Obama

Bigger government = Obama
Smaller = McCain

Strong defense = McCain
Weaker = Obama

Socilized medicine = Obama
Private medicine = McCain

Gun rights eliminate = Obama
Gun Right Supported = McCain

Family Values preserved = McCain
Family Values Attacked = Obama

Posted by: MakeUsProud | September 15, 2008 12:22 PM

Rangel and Obama "working together to craft preminary legislative agenda"- That's just what our economy needs!

**NY Times Calls for Rangel's Resignation from Chairmanship of House Ways and Means Committee Today**

From Newsweek 8/28/08

OBAMA TEAM WORKS WITH HILL DEMOCRATS
(Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post)
Eager to avoid the missteps that plagued the first months of the Clinton administration, aides to Barack Obama have begun working in concert with top Democrats in Congress to craft a preliminary legislative agenda that would guide the senator from Illinois should he capture the White House in November. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has assigned her committee chairmen to begin with low-hanging fruit to build confidence and provide a new, young president quick legislative victories, then pivot to more challenging issues, from ending U.S. military involvement in Iraq to broadening health-care coverage. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) said his policy staffs and Obama's have been working together for more than a month. (!)

Posted by: Alan | September 15, 2008 11:17 AM

"Give 'em Hell, Sarah
Like Truman, a natural-born executive.
by Steven F. Hayward
09/22/2008, Volume 014, Issue 02


"Part of what bothers the establishment about Palin is her seeming insouciance toward public office. Her success with voters, and in national office, would be n affront and a reproach to establishment self-importance. Anyone who affects making it look easy surely lacks gravitas and must not grasp the complexity or depth of modern political problems. Partly this is the self-justification for establishment institutions and attitudes, but partly it represents the substantive view that the size and complexity of modern government require a level of expertise beyond the reach of ordinary citizens. Some of the doubts about Palin are doubts about self-government itself.

As far no one has picked up on the significance of Palin's invocation of Harry Truman in her convention speech. Her reference was more than just a bridge to a heartland-versus-Beltway theme. Truman, recall, was the only president of the 20th century who was not a college graduate. Less than two months after abruptly taking over from FDR with no preparation, Truman wrote his wife Bess describing his quick progress in taking the reins:


It won't be long before I can sit back and study the whole picture and tell 'em what is to be done in each department. When things come to that stage there'll be no more to this job than there was to running Jackson County and not any more worry.


In retrospect it is clear that Truman "got it." He didn't need any more "experience" to master the job. "Well I'm facing another tall day as usual,"
he ended that letter to Bess; "But I like 'em that way."

Ronald Reagan evinced the same attitude toward office as Truman and Palin. In fact, on closer inspection, one can hear in the criticism of Palin the echo of the same kind of complaint made against Ronald Reagan throughout his political career. Never mind that he'd been governor of California. That this graduate of Eureka College--where?--had made his career in Hollywood, a place as exotic and peculiar as Alaska, was decisive with the establishment. "Reagan's election," John P. Roche, a former head of Americans for Democratic Action, wrote in 1984, "was thus an 8-plus earthquake on the political Richter scale, and it sent a number of eminent statesmen--Republican and Democratic--into shock." It wasn't only liberals who found Reagan incomprehensible. "No previous president of the United States," Rowland Evans and Robert Novak wrote shortly after Reagan's election in 1980, "had so bizarre a preparation for political office."


Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:45 AM

Bush said he wanted to see the evil doers like in the old west - living or dead.
You assho*le republicans don"t even no what is hapening. The corrupton of the republicans and the military , and petrleum and finNcial cschemmes is of such proportion. , that we shuud see at least ten feet dangling from gallows on the white house lawn by the end of the week:Bush1, Bush 2, Chaney, McCain, anf the tesurected skeleton of Rinald Regan.
We are done as a serious lawful nation within month.
Yes we can nuke a lot of the world assho*les, but then what, gthat all we can we are dimminshed as a lawful nation buy these awaggering crooks.

Posted by: Lexus the Judge | September 14, 2008 10:45 PM

He can mary into 100 million! WHO CARES?

McSame,
I have a news flash for you.......
AMERICA IS NOT FOR SALE!

Posted by: Samiam | September 14, 2008 8:07 PM

He can raise 166 million! WHO CARES?

Obama,
I have a news flash for you.......
AMERICA IS NOT FOR SALE!

Posted by: $3000 for his "hand made" suit | September 14, 2008 8:01 PM

LOL, you republicans make me laugh. You can't even argue on the issues anymore because you know McCain=Bush..

What do we do? Let's label Obama a cocaine snorting Muslim terrorist.

Give it a rest already, your starting to sound desperate.

"I wonder where he gets his money?

He doesn't have to report donors under $200.00! He could be getting money from Terrorist, just $199.99 each! We would never know...

OBAMA is SATAN.

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCON! | September 14, 2008 7:28 PM"

Posted by: Jeff | September 14, 2008 7:39 PM

I wonder where he gets his money?

He doesn't have to report donors under $200.00! He could be getting money from Terrorist, just $199.99 each! We would never know...

OBAMA is SATAN.

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCON! | September 14, 2008 7:28 PM

McCain wants everyone to forget he is a Republican.

Republicans like McCain have run this country into the ground these last years, and need to be thrown out of office.

McCain is trying to distract everyone from the fact that he is a Republican. He has no ideas but the typical Republican agenda. He can put on a sassy little outfit and call himself tinkerbell, and he'll still just be an old, worn-out Republican who has been in office way too long, and whose ideas are stale.

Kick the bums out!
Vote Democrat!

Posted by: julieds | September 14, 2008 6:50 PM

Politico-

Independents swing toward McCain


By JOHN P. AVLON | 9/14/08 1:30 PM EST

In an Ideas piece, Avlon says that independents will determine the election -- and they may be for McCain.

"Independent voters — the largest and fastest-growing segment of the American electorate — were always going to determine the winner of this election.

And in contrast to past contests like 2004, where independents viewed the choice between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry as a vote for the candidate they disliked least, independents had a dream campaign in ‘08: two compelling nominees who ran against the polarizing establishments of their own parties with explicitly post-partisan appeals. It was a year in which Karl Rove’s play-to-the-base politics seemed to be on the ash heap of history.

In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

Since the GOP convention and his selection of the Alaska governor as his running mate, McCain has changed a months-long tie among independents into a 52 to 37 percent advantage. Support for McCain among self-described "conservative Democrats" has jumped 10 points, to 25 percent, signaling the shift among swing voters to McCain..."



Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 6:43 PM

John McCain will win easily.

Posted by: Kick | September 14, 2008 6:38 PM

tgtteo: So, I'm guessing that you're point is we are in a world of crap...? Yes we are and our prognosis isn't looking too good. If you want Obama to answer your questions do you already know how McCain would answer them? I'm guessing he would say, War, War, War. If he is nothing else, he is a professional warrior. However, neither one of them can give you comprehensive answers. You're definition of NATO is quite humerous as they prefer to be less in a hurry to get people killed. Perhaps we should have thought twice about weakening our military strength by not wringing our soldiers out to dry. We are stretched pretty thin to be fighting a battle with Russia. As much as I dislike Reagan's policies, I have to give him a prize for not giving into biting the Soviet bait. We should have stuck with our war on the Taliban and we'd probably have enough energy for the Russians.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 5:23 PM

Arthur @ 4:24
A lot of people decided to make their contribution as a birthday present to Barack ... they entered the dollar amount that they wanted to donate, then the cents for the date of his birthday. Other people had other reasons to add cents, such as keeping track of groups that were giving individually so that they could tell how many participants there were.

It seems that you are projecting an illegal action that you would do onto others, with no reason for that projection.

Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008 5:15 PM

Let's put this into perspective. Obama raises $66 million by Sept. 1st from individuals who want to donate. McCain on the other hand gets a handout of taxpayer money in the amount of

$84 million to use for ~60 days.

Who truly is the candidate of change and for the people?!

OBAMA!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 14, 2008 4:59 PM

There's the old joke about when does one knows when a lawyer is lying, when they speak. Who are the lawyers running.

Big Lie #1-
Corporations & Businesses pay taxes- That's the biggest lie. All they do is collect taxes, the only group that pays taxes is that group the can NOT pass them along to others. That's the individual taxpayer....so when Obama/Biden claims they will reduce your taxes by increasing corporate or business tax...guess who's lying then guess who's going to pay that tax.

Big Lie# 2-
We have a progressive tax system, that's a lie. Those making the least amount pay the highest tax. According to Gov. Finance Officers Assoc. GFOA, those making less the $100K gross, now pay just over 57% of their gross to Government, those making over $1 million, pay 40%. Next time you check your phone/electric/utility bill, check the taxes & fees.

Big Lie #3-
Republicans or Democrats will solve the tax problem. - On it's face, a lie.

Big Lie #4-
Foreigners are not contributing to Obama campaign.- If you believe that one, let me sell you a bridge.

Posted by: starryperdun | September 14, 2008 4:54 PM

For those who mis my point further explaination:

This was my main point as follow, I do not believe it makes any sense that we had to fight ragtag crews of rag head there so we would not have to fight them here; its hear to believe, but it is a notion that sounds stupid enough for Hannitty and his dummy crew. LOL Hence my statement:

The only thing I don’t understand is how the soviets, the Chinese, the Nazis, the Japanese, even the Vietnamese who had much great technical and military skills never had to be fought in the streets in America- I always thought it had to do with being surrounded by 4000 mile well defended moats.”

No way would we under any condition be fighting them seriously here, and NEVER LOST 4000 plus doing it.
D. Screed

Posted by: daniel screed | September 14, 2008 4:41 PM

Man, the moral police aparently have no morals. You republicans, just keep the lies rolling don't you. Where is your source? Let me guess, a blog no one has heard of?

Posted by: Plain/McSame08 | September 14, 2008 4:28 PM

PleaseChange

That are your answers but we want to hear it from Obama himself personally.

By the way do you know what NATO also stands for No Action Talk Only.

Do you honestly think NATO will risk a war with Russia?

How then is Obama going to make good on his pledge to defend Israel?

We are talking about an enemy that can strike back and strike back hard.

Putin is not going let the US get away this time with humiliating Russia by placing missles at their front door. Just like JFK would not stand for Russian missles on Cuba.

Posted by: tgtteo | September 14, 2008 4:26 PM

I know it is illegal for foreign nationals not in the US to make political contributions.

So, why is it that the Federal Election Commission reports show a mammoth number of contributions which have pennies in the amounts if they did not make contributions in foreign currencies which, after conversion, made the amounts show pennies.

No one in the US would make a payment not in round dollars, would they?

So, it looks a lot like the Obama campaign is breaking the law, and it might explain why he is collecting so much money -- America's enemies are trying to affect American elections and they know that Obama will destroy America's influence.

This is a scandal.

Posted by: Arthur Lemay | September 14, 2008 4:24 PM

Conspiracy is the mental defective’s
attempt at cognitive pattern recognition; a dissonance associated with narcissistic paranoia acts as a filter on the ability to see clearly.

The less intelligent the person the more this conceptive imprecision is enhanced.

There are many textbook examples manifest in this discussion.
You won"t know who you our so I won"t embrass you by naming handle.

Doc Screed
Daniel screeds

Posted by: daniel screed | September 14, 2008 4:17 PM

66 Million in one month? If he truly cares about people there are alot of people IN AMERICA who could use some help right now. Hurricane Ike people, poor people, even middle class people. Our infrastructure is crumbling and the politicians are getting millions to run? What is wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Sad State of Politics | September 14, 2008 4:16 PM

Daniel Screed, what's with your box-cutter scare tactic propaganda? Is this something that's spewed on Hannity's radio talk-show by callers?

Posted by: david | September 14, 2008 4:12 PM

Terry: You can make a contribution to the Obama/Biden campaign by visiting their website at:
http://www.barackobama.com/splash/aid_ike.html

That should answer your question about whether Obama has the technology to get donations. As to getting money from Muslims, I'm guess that some Muslims are democrats, so the answer to that question is yes. I am of Irish descent and I have also donated. Obama has received enough individual/small donations to brake records, including his own. He will have to report all of this to the our Government by Sept 20th. You should look for that report when it comes out and see the truth.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 4:02 PM

Everything is a conspiricy theory to you repugs, yet you keep electing scary men...

"Where are all these donors and money coming from? I don't think there are half a million new donors who could figure out how to donate online. The conspiracy theory I like best is that this money is coming from Muslim sources. Does Obama have a preference? Does Obama have money? Does Obama have the technology to make online donations? Should Obama have a voice in our election? Yes, yes, yes, and NO!"

Posted by: Walt69 | September 14, 2008 3:57 PM

Graniteman: Obama's attack ads on McCain. May I suggested you go to factcheck.org and get you facts straight? They have been very good at pointing out the fallacies in both campaigns. However, it seems that the Karl Rove machine is in place and moving along at full speed. I can't blame Obama for changing lanes. He's got to raise enough money to avoid those swift boats and anything else Rove decides to throw at him. Rove is a brilliant (probably one of the most brilliant) political strategists in our modern time, but that doesn't make him right or ethical.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:56 PM

With this campaign, McCain has lost any honor he enjoyed as a POW. He has proved himself to be an utter slimeball and it will come back to haunt him during the debates when the moderator asks him to clarify his understanding of Obama's positions that he has lied about. Obama is the one on the high road, but he needs to come out with this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inbq9LCOCqE&feature=user

Posted by: Bill | September 14, 2008 3:56 PM

I disagree with Obams's rejection of public fund.

The whole "tied to the Daley political machine in Chicago" however, is complete BS. He worked his butt of and sacraficed everything to help the poor in Chicago.

You can attack him if you like, but he is a good person. Like it or not, he sacraficed for what he believes in.

And that is change.


"The junior senator from Illinois, whose political career is tied to the Daley political machine in Chicago, claims to be a "new politician" who promotes "change." But he's raising tons of money to buy the election with attack ads on Senator McCain and Gov. Palin. That's old politics, not new. Why didn't Senator Obama accept public money like Senator McCain? I have a hunch that George Soros, the billionaire, is providing many of these millions to Senator Obama.

Posted by: Graniteman | September 14, 2008 3:49 PM "

Posted by: Walt69 | September 14, 2008 3:56 PM

Where are all these donors and money coming from? I don't think there are half a million new donors who could figure out how to donate online. The conspiracy theory I like best is that this money is coming from Muslim sources. Does Obama have a preference? Does Obama have money? Does Obama have the technology to make online donations? Should Obama have a voice in our election? Yes, yes, yes, and NO!

Posted by: Terry | September 14, 2008 3:55 PM

granieman instead os taking guess about Obama's contributors why not just go look, it is a matter of public record.

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?C00431445

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:55 PM

Fellow “great Americans”

I don’t we want to fight the Muslim fanatics here in our streets. as the patriotic Bush and McCain backers say. But I think the cheapest and best thing to do would be to make sure they don’t
get box cutters.
ing
My goodness if 18 of them did that to us wield
18 box cutters, imagine 5000 Muslim terrorist with 5000 box cutters. the death and destruction would be appalling.

Certainly Bush should sign a presidential edit no allowing Muslims to buy Box Cutter factories in the US that would prevent what otherwise be sheer suicide.

I think the Iraqi war was only incidental in our not having to fight them in the streets: they just weren’t able to build any box cutter factories.

The only thing I don’t understand is how the soviets, the Chinese, the Nazis, the Japanese, even the Vietnamese who had much great technical and military skills never had to be fought in the streets iin America- I always thought it had to do with being surrounded by 4000 mile well defended moats.

But may be the key it is our inability to deal with Box cutter weaponry.
I dedicate this patriotic message to the great Sean “potato head” Hannity
Screedy

Posted by: daniel Screed | September 14, 2008 3:50 PM

The junior senator from Illinois, whose political career is tied to the Daley political machine in Chicago, claims to be a "new politician" who promotes "change." But he's raising tons of money to buy the election with attack ads on Senator McCain and Gov. Palin. That's old politics, not new. Why didn't Senator Obama accept public money like Senator McCain? I have a hunch that George Soros, the billionaire, is providing many of these millions to Senator Obama.

Posted by: Graniteman | September 14, 2008 3:49 PM

It also might behoove us to recognize how important it is to have someone in office who will bring us together as a nation and not polarize us more than we already are. If we are to fight in so many wars, how will we do this if our leader are in the divide and conquer business?

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:47 PM

Man Regan. I didn't think anyone could outspend him. Bush proved me wrong there. What ever happend to fiscal conservatives? Out of the the three, BushII, Regan and Clinton, the only one remotely fiscally conservative was the democrat. BushI, was somewhat conservative fiscally, but he raised taxes, how evil.
McCain, for the most part seems to go along with BushII. I tend to have more faith in Obama from a fiscal point of view. He certainly has hte inttelegence to balance a budget, regardless of the "big-spending" democrat steryotyopes


"Sure helped Clinton. Sure helped Reagan"

Posted by: Tom | September 14, 2008 3:45 PM

So, on the question of whether being a Governor makes you qualified to be President, perhaps it's the person, not the office. People who become Governors come from all kinds of backgrounds with different skills. That's why we need to move away from types of jobs they've had and look at how they performed in those jobs. That's what going to make the difference here.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:43 PM

Maybe this is a version of the bigger fool principle, though in this case it is the bigger scum principle.

"A local Realtor tried to use this lie to force an old couple to accept an offer on their home. She told them if they didn't take the offer and if Obama is elected they would have to pay $90,000 in tax. I found out about it and reported her to the Florida ass of realtors. She was lying to her client trying to scare them into selling.

=========
Don't believe everything you read in chain emails, just more lies...

"No. A new e-mail being circulated about Obama's tax proposals is almost entirely false."

"Home Sales: The claim that Obama would impose a 28 percent tax on the profit from "all home sales" is false. Both Obama and McCain would continue to exempt the first $250,000 of gain from the sale of a primary residence ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) which results in zero tax on all but a very few home sales."

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/would_obama_tax_my_profits_if_i.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:06 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:36 PM

Good to see teh Repugs take on the issues and not just attack people, with half-truths, and lies.

Posted by: Walt69 | September 14, 2008 3:36 PM

tgtteo: what do you think the answers to your questions should be? I think they are reasonable, but you're not going to like the truth.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:35 PM

I think the difference between Obama and McCain is not just the answer, but how you get to the answer.

1. Whether US should go to war with Russia over Georgia?
I suspect McCain/Palin would be much more likely to take some sort of unilateral action, whereas Obama would work with the EU and others on a multilateral action possibly leading to military action.

2. What should US do should Russsia invades Ukraine or Poland?
Again I think McCain/Palin would be more likely to act unilaterally using Article 5 of the NATO treaty as just a reason. Obama would likely act more in the spirit of the NATO treaty which is for all the treaty members to work together, up to and including the Article 5 call for military action.

3. With the US economy in such a bad shape and the US military stretched to its limits, can the US still win an all out war with Russia?
No one wins a truly all out war with Russia, this is not so much a case of our military being stretched, but rather one of nuclear (that is new-clear) mutually assured destruction.

4. Would he bring back the military draft?
I am sure either candidate could bring back the draft, I suspect Obama's multilateral approach would be less likely to make it necessary.

5. Should he defend Israel and Georgia with the last drop of American blood?
Within the guidelines of the NATO treaty yes, the trick is to resolve conflicts before they arise, cost American lives, and money. The surge is working, I suspect anytime we send enough of the best equipped military made up of our brave troops into a conflict we can make the situation better. Wouldn't it have been nice though to have resolved this situation without the surge ever being necessary, think of the money and more importantly lives, saved.

6. Would he pledge that he would resign his presidency should US be attacked by terrorists under his watch?
Has either candidate made this pledge? I think if either candidate was president and shown to be grossly negligent in carrying out their duty to protect and defend the country would pay a price for it. I don't think the county being attacked in and of itself is a reason for a resignation, it is more a question of what lead to it and who was responsible for any negligence.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:34 PM

Tom:
Yeah, being a governor sure helped Bush...

Sure helped Clinton. Sure helped Reagan.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:34 PM

.

ODE TO OBAMA # 17

Now Obama he talks about change
And America he would like to rearrange.
But half muslim that he is,
It don't take a whiz
To see this looks a little strange.

His love for the country he wouldn't show
Until he was forced to eat crow
Where finally with a grin,
He wore the flag pin
And said "I'm real loyal, don't you know?"

And they played the national anthem one day,
But note that he looked the other way.
With his hands in the wrong place
While he stared into space,
He said "My faith I'll not betray."

So though he's a rather cool Bro
His leanings we really don't know
We have only his word
And from what we've heard
With Wright twenty years he did bestow.

And the Terrorist called Ayers was his friend
Who with time the Obama would spend.
So most would see
It's quite easy to agree
His record is quite hard to defend.

.

Posted by: Billw | September 14, 2008 3:32 PM

Yeah, being a governor sure helped Bush... What's relevant is whether the canidate has the innovation to deal with the complex world problems facing us. McCain dosn't even have the innovation to come up with his own campain theme.


"Who cares how big Alaska is - the relevant difference between a governor and a senator is in their responsibilities"

Posted by: Tom | September 14, 2008 3:30 PM

WarMachine: you're a model citizen ;-)

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:30 PM

He has already tanked and recovered. His numbers now are his highest. Same with Mccain except Mccain is peaking. Mccain will go down and Obama is solid where he is. Few experts think this high Mccain is on can continue.

========
Laughing:
Visited foreign countries...

- like speaking at the Siegessaeule (oops .. should have been the Brandenburg gate) or hob-nobing with Sarkosy - those are sure worthy diplomatic achievements.
Who cares how big Alaska is - the relevant difference between a governor and a senator is in their responsibilities.

But of course you know all this - you also know that the "recent trip" (paid for in a large part by the tax payer) was nothing more than a publicity stint to further 0bama's image. This was not a diplomatic mission, not was he (supposed to) representing the United States.

I'm waiting for 0bama's "tank" moment - he'd make a great commander, just like Michael did!
Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:24 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:29 PM

macgvac: I guess I'm a bit confused about what victory means in Iraq. What is the litmus test because the goal seems to keep changing. Also, there are a lot of dictators out there who deserve to be overthrown, but we don't bother with them. Saddam was a pal when we needed him, as so many dictators have been in the past (Noriega, for example?). What right did we have to invade Iraq to get rid of a dictator only to make it ripe for terrorists-- to fight the battle over there instead of on our own soil? Do we have a right to put the lives of Iraqis at risk and ignore the exteme fundamentatlists that are taking over their Government only to keep us safe (if that is what we are)?

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:28 PM

I'm McCain, but I do not trust Palin. She seems like another vindictive woman bringing her personal affairs into the office. She sure is hot though!!!

Posted by: WarMachine | September 14, 2008 3:27 PM

Laughing:
Visited foreign countries...

- like speaking at the Siegessaeule (oops .. should have been the Brandenburg gate) or hob-nobing with Sarkosy - those are sure worthy diplomatic achievements.
Who cares how big Alaska is - the relevant difference between a governor and a senator is in their responsibilities.

But of course you know all this - you also know that the "recent trip" (paid for in a large part by the tax payer) was nothing more than a publicity stint to further 0bama's image. This was not a diplomatic mission, not was he (supposed to) representing the United States.

I'm waiting for 0bama's "tank" moment - he'd make a great commander, just like Michael did!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:24 PM

Macgvac wrote:

"..we went to war in iraq because saddam did not keep his terms to the peace agreement when he stopped allowing UN weapons inspectors in his country."

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Ok, I was alive and reading the news in 2002. You're re-writing history, that's a flat out lie, and now I'm inclined to believe your other claims are just as questionable. Want proof?

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/08/1046826559528.html

Let's quote UN inspector, Mr. Blix, for a minute.

"Inspections in Iraq resumed on 27 November 2002. In matters relating to process, notably prompt access to sites, we have faced relatively few difficulties and certainly much less than those that were faced by UNSCOM in the period 1991 to 1998. This may well be due to the strong outside pressure.

Some practical matters, which were not settled by the talks Dr. ElBaradei and I had with the Iraqi side in Vienna prior to inspections or in resolution 1441 (2002), have been resolved at meetings which we have had in Baghdad. Initial difficulties raised by the Iraqi side about helicopters and aerial surveillance planes operating in the no-fly zones were overcome. This is not to say that the operation of inspections is free from frictions, but at this juncture we are able to perform professional no-notice inspections all over Iraq and to increase aerial surveillance."

You #$%#$ liar.

Posted by: Terrorfied | September 14, 2008 3:20 PM

Look Sadam got what he deserved, no doubt, but evil leaders will pop up regardless of what we do. While we've been wasting our time there, other, regimes have been stockpiling all sorts of weapons and building up their militaries.

Meanwhile, we are running out of money and resources and when the sh**t hits the fan we'll be a fraction of the country we were before and won't have any friends left to help bail us out.

There are lots of evil people in the world and we can't take them all on by ourselves.
We need to choose our battles wisely.

"Well you cant flatten the place and just leave, so another evil man with the most guns gains control

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 3:10 PM"

Posted by: Jeff | September 14, 2008 3:19 PM

drgrepper,

Granted Bush war on terror that included an attack on Iraq was unforgiveable, but many democrats voted for it.

Iraq was easy many of us too were against that war.

However the threat of war with Russia is very real now.

Either Israel or Georgia or both are about to drag the US into a horrendous war with Russia that will in all probability lead to WWIII.

So Americans have a right to know what Obama's stands are on these issues. My guess is they are the same as McCain's.

When it comes down to defending democracy and freedom and especially when US superpower position is compromised, all patriotic Americans have only one answer. WAR!

So what is the differance between Obama and McCain? Sexism and racism.

Go ahead ask Obama:

1. Whether US should go to war with Russia over Georgia?
2. What should US do should Russsia invades Ukraine or Poland?
3. With the US economy in such a bad shape and the US military stretched to its limits, can the US still win an all out war with Russia?
4. Would he bring back the military draft? 5. Should he defend Israel and Georgia with the last drop of American blood?
6. Would he pledge that he would resign his presidency should US be attacked by terrorists under his watch?

Posted by: tgtteo | September 14, 2008 3:15 PM

A local Realtor tried to use this lie to force an old couple to accept an offer on their home. She told them if they didn't take the offer and if Obama is elected they would have to pay $90,000 in tax. I found out about it and reported her to the Florida ass of realtors. She was lying to her client trying to scare them into selling.

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Don't believe everything you read in chain emails, just more lies...

"No. A new e-mail being circulated about Obama's tax proposals is almost entirely false."

"Home Sales: The claim that Obama would impose a 28 percent tax on the profit from "all home sales" is false. Both Obama and McCain would continue to exempt the first $250,000 of gain from the sale of a primary residence ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) which results in zero tax on all but a very few home sales."

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/would_obama_tax_my_profits_if_i.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:06 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:14 PM

Thats what we did the firs iraq war, the big mistake the first time was not finishing the job, The big mistake the second time, is not getting the job done

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 3:12 PM

Well you cant flatten the place and just leave, so another evil man with the most guns gains control

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 3:10 PM

macgvac: based on the supposition, you believe the loss of over 4K American lives and countless Iraqis is justified. That is the type of behavior that deserves a pre-emptive strike? I have to disagree with you there. A pre-emptive strike should be that resort when we are threatened by an immanent attack. I do not think that was the case.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:10 PM

LOL yeah, I bet governing Alaska gave Palin so much experience. After all, it has all of 650,000 people. And she was governor what, 18 months? That beats the heck out of Obama's congressional district of 650,000. Not to mention he hasn't just visited several foreign nations, but is already liked and respected by their leaders and citizens, and would likely repair our world image just by being in the whitehouse. Palin lives close to Russia, so obviously she has the advantage.

Out of curiosity, how closely have you looked into Alaska politics? You know that Palin has tried to get hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks for her state, right? I mean, it must be hard to pay for things while handing out $2,000 checks to every citizen just to get them to stay (sounds like welfare for all... who is the socialist again?). And lets not forget her biggest Alaskan achievement: raising taxes on oil companies operating in the state, a cost which we on the mainland make up for with increased price. After all, its much easier to take money from people in other states to pay for stuff you want, right? I bet the people in her home town (where she inquired about banning books that didn't agree with fundamentalist christianity) are just extatic...

Posted by: Laughing | September 14, 2008 3:09 PM

Do you believe that? BTW, Sadam is dead and gone, are we gaining anything by spending $10,000,000,000 a month there?

"No we went to war in iraq because saddam did not keep his terms to the peace agreement when he stopped allowing UN weapons inspectors in his country. Remember Saddams defeated army in the gulf war he was pretty much crying for surrender. We said sure under theese terms. 10 years later he choose to break terms. Thats the kind of situation you get put in when you invade a country like Kuwait and loose to a superior Kuwait allie.


Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 3:03 PM"

Posted by: Jeff | September 14, 2008 3:08 PM

All that happened is after all the hoopla with Mccain, a surge he could have never imagined, he is only even. Mean time Obama is just cruising. In sports it would be called "Playing over your head" He can't keep it up. It is just a matter where they peak if they have not already. It will be close but Obama has an end game plan and the money to do it. This will be won on the ground.

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if money talks then obama is spending a lot more money mc cain they are tied it says a lot about how good mc cain is with spending he gets the job done with a lot less

Posted by: getsix1 | September 14, 2008 3:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:08 PM

Don't believe everything you read in chain emails, just more lies...

"No. A new e-mail being circulated about Obama's tax proposals is almost entirely false."

"Home Sales: The claim that Obama would impose a 28 percent tax on the profit from "all home sales" is false. Both Obama and McCain would continue to exempt the first $250,000 of gain from the sale of a primary residence ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) which results in zero tax on all but a very few home sales."

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/would_obama_tax_my_profits_if_i.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:06 PM

Oregon4Obama: I am an Obama supporter and a take pride in the fact that I am working class democrat. I come from a long line of them. Your comments to macgvac are not helping the campaign. They only make you look like Hannity did when he went nuts on his guest last week. Nothing good can come from this kind of dialogue.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 3:03 PM

No we went to war in iraq because saddam did not keep his terms to the peace agreement when he stopped allowing UN weapons inspectors in his country. Remember Saddams defeated army in the gulf war he was pretty much crying for surrender. We said sure under theese terms. 10 years later he choose to break terms. Thats the kind of situation you get put in when you invade a country like Kuwait and loose to a superior Kuwait allie.

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 3:03 PM

if money talks then obama is spending a lot more money mc cain they are tied it says a lot about how good mc cain is with spending he gets the job done with a lot less

Posted by: getsix1 | September 14, 2008 3:02 PM

Elitist - "consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favored group"

Are you an idiot? The republicons are the biggest elitists around. They pride themselves in screwing over average Americans on a daily basis and they seem to be quite conscious of it.

"What is the definition of "elitist"? Educated? Rich? Liberal? Democrat? Do you have to have all of these characteristics or just one to be an elitist? I'm honestly confused and would appreciate your answers.

Posted by: vivianbastard | September 14, 2008 2:57 PM"

Posted by: Tom | September 14, 2008 3:02 PM

ahhh, Jimmy Carter! 21% prime rate man.

You think Mccain can top him?
I think McCain can!

Let's print more money!!!

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 3:01 PM

Aspergirl wrote:

"Similarly, the media has been attacking Sarah Palin on her religion and sexuality and family, after declaring those topics "off limits" for Barack Obama!"
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Are you saying Sarah Palin is a lesbian?? HOT!

C'mon guys, leave Aspergirl alone. I haven't read the Onion yet today.

Posted by: Terrorfied | September 14, 2008 3:01 PM

Form factcheck.org in case anyone wants to know the truth.

QUESTION

Would Obama tax my profits if I sell my home? Would he tax my IRA? Would he tax my water?
I was just sent this and it had 100s of names attached and forwarded over and over – is it real?

ANSWER
No. A new e-mail being circulated about Obama's tax proposals is almost entirely false.
Alert readers may already have noted that this chain e-mail does not provide links to any of Obama's actual proposals or cite any sources for the claims it makes. That is because they are made up.This widely distributed message is so full of misinformation that we find it impossible to believe that it is the result of simple ignorance or carelessness on the part of the writer. Almost nothing it says about Obama's tax proposals is true. We conclude that this deception is deliberate.

Wachovia Apologizes

Update, Aug. 27:One version of this e-mail was sent around by a financial professional, Robert Jenkins, a vice president of Wachovia Securities in St. Louis, Mo. Even though Jenkins is an investment adviser and not a tax expert, we thought his endorsement might seem to some readers to give this false e-mail greater credibility. So we attempted to ask Jenkins about the matter. But instead of a reply from him, we received the following message from another Wachovia official, whose identity we confirmed by telephone:

Thank you for contacting Wachovia regarding a recent email regarding "proposed changes in taxes after the 2008 General election." Please know that Wachovia does not endorse any political party, candidate, or initiative, and that our Firm did not endorse or approve the email as it is contrary to our Code of Conduct and Corporate Values.
Members of executive and departmental leadership in Wachovia Corporation and Wachovia Securities have been made aware of the email, and Robert Jenkins has been dealt with appropriately and directly. Every effort has been made to ensure that no additional emails or communications of this nature will be issued by any member of our Firm.
We sincerely apologize for this unfortunate incident.
Cynthia Plackemeier
Assistant Branch Manager
We later contacted William Mannen, a Wachovia vice president for branch administration in St. Louis. He declined to say whether or not Jenkins is still employed by Wachovia.
Our own sources for the following are Obama's own Web site and other statements, interviews with Obama's policy advisers, and a comprehensive analysis of both the McCain and Obama tax plans produced by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, plus additional sources to which we have provided links.Home Sales: The claim that Obama would impose a 28 percent tax on the profit from "all home sales" is false. Both Obama and McCain would continue to exempt the first $250,000 of gain from the sale of a primary residence ($500,000 for a married couple filing jointly) which results in zero tax on all but a very few home sales.
Capital Gains Rate: It's untrue that Obama is proposing a 28 percent capital gains tax rate. He said in an interview on CNBC that he favors raising the top rate on capital gains from its present 15 percent to 20 percent or more, but no higher than 28 percent. And as for a 28 percent rate, he added, "my guess would be it would be significantly lower than that." Furthermore, he has said only couples making $250,000 or more (or, his policy advisers tell us, singles making more than $200,000) would pay the higher capital gains rate. That means the large majority of persons who pay capital gains taxes would see no increase at all.

Tax on Dividends: Another false claim is that Obama proposes to raise the tax rate on dividends to 39.6 percent. Dividends currently are taxed at a top rate of 15 percent, and Obama would raise that to the same rate as he would tax capital gains, somewhere between 20 percent and 28 percent but likely "significantly" lower than 28 percent. This higher tax also would fall only on couples making $250,000 or more or singles making more than $200,000.

Taxing IRAs and 529s: Contrary to the claim in this e-mail, raising tax rates on capital gains or dividends would not result in higher taxes on any investments held in Individual Retirement Accounts or in popular, tax-deferred "college funds" under section 529 of the Internal Revenue Code. The whole point of such tax-deferred plans is that dividends and capital gains are allowed to accumulate and compound tax-free, and neither Obama nor McCain proposes to change that. And as previously mentioned, any capital gains or dividend income from stocks, bonds or mutual funds owned outside of tax-deferred accounts would continue to be taxed at current rates except for couples making over $250,000, or singles making more than $200,000.

Doubled Taxes? The claim that "Under Obama your taxes will more than double!" is also false. The comparative rate tables this e-mail provides for McCain and Obama are entirely wrong, as we explained in an earlier article March 13 about another false e-mail from which these tables are copied. It is supposedly a comparison of tax rates before and after the Bush tax cuts, but it grossly overstates the effect of the Bush cuts. Furthermore, Obama proposes to retain the Bush cuts for every single income level shown in this bogus table.

Estate Tax. The claim that Obama proposes to "restore the inheritance tax" is also false, as are the claims that McCain would impose zero tax and that Bush "repealed" it. McCain and Obama both would retain a reduced version of the estate tax, as it is correctly called, though McCain would reduce it by more.

The tax now falls only on estates valued at more than $2 million (effectively $4 million for couples able to set up the required legal and financial arrangements). It reaches a maximum rate of 45 percent on amounts more than that. It was not repealed, but it is set to expire temporarily in 2010, then return in 2011, when it would apply to estates valued at more than $1 million ($2 million for couples), with the maximum rate rising to 55 percent.

Obama has proposed to apply the tax only to estates valued at more than $3.5 million ($7 million for couples), holding the maximum rate at 45 percent. McCain would apply it to estates worth more than $5 million ($10 million for couples), with a maximum rate of 15 percent.

"New Tax" Falsehoods: The e-mail continues with a string of made-up taxes that it falsely claims Obama has proposed. He has not proposed a tax on new homes with more than 2,400 square feet, or a new gasoline tax or a tax on retirement accounts. The most laughably false claim is that Obama would tax "water."
Two claims in this message, while not completely false, are still grossly misleading.

The claim that Obama would impose "new taxes on natural resources" may refer to his support for a cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions, which indeed would impose large costs on industries burning coal, gas or oil and, indirectly, on their consumers. But McCain also supports cap-and-trade legislation, and even coauthored an early version of a bill that reached the Senate floor this year. Obama's plan would give the federal government more of the revenue from auctioning pollution permits than McCain's plan. Whether cap-and-trade amounts to a "tax" is a matter of interpretation. The fact is neither McCain nor Obama call it that.

There is also some truth to the claim that Obama would impose "new taxes" to finance his health care plan, depending on your interpretation of "new." He has said he would pay for much of his plan "by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire for people making more than $250,000 per year, as they are scheduled to do." That would certainly be a tax increase for those high-income persons, compared with what they are paying now. But whether that's imposing a new tax, or just letting an old one come back, depends on your point of view. It may well be that Obama will eventually propose tax increases to finance some of his plan. We've noted before that the "cost savings" that he says will finance much of his plan are inflated and probably won't materialize, according to independent experts we consulted. But it's wrong to say that he's proposing such taxes now.

The short answer to our reader's question is, no, this message isn't real. It's a pack of lies.

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So people who buy old houses and fix them up for a living deserve to get shafted ?

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:48 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:00 PM

GV, you are nothing more than a bigot. Why are trying to win an election through lies? Get your facts straight, Obama is not a Muslim, and being a Muslim does not make one a terrorist. Stop with the lies. Stop with the Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Karl Rove innuendos & propaganda. You are spreading the same lies as those who call Conservative Republican talk shows saying anything to make Obama and the Democratic party look bad. I voted for Bush in 2004 because I wanted to believe that my government had good intentions when going into Iraq, but it turned out that our government lied to us. The reasons we went to war in Iraq evolved over time. Initially, we went into Iraq because Sadaam Hussein was allowing Al Qaeda to use training camps in Iraq. Once that was debunked, the new reason that the United States was in Iraq was because Iraq possessed WMD; that was later shown to be untrue because Iraq had already used the WMD, that the United States supplied them, against the Iranians during the Iraq-Iran War. After that claim was shown to be false, the new reason for the United States being in Iraq was that they were there to depose of a terrible dictator who ruled over the Iraqi people with a Stalin-like grip. The current administration and the Republican party, acting less than nobly, have taken this country in the wrong direction. It is time for a new direction. - David (San Diego, CA)

Posted by: david | September 14, 2008 2:58 PM

What is the definition of "elitist"? Educated? Rich? Liberal? Democrat? Do you have to have all of these characteristics or just one to be an elitist? I'm honestly confused and would appreciate your answers.

Posted by: vivianbastard | September 14, 2008 2:57 PM

Elrod when someone making a little over 30,000 a year looses an extra 4,000 that makes saving for a down payment on a home just a dream.

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:57 PM

macgvac......KILL YOURSELF for making up numbers on the tax plans.......

All independent tax groups show that both mccain and obama will lower taxes for people making uner 250,000/year

only difference is that obama will slowly raise taxes for those making over 250000/year......for people making 250k-377k their taxes will go up $12(twelve dollars) so shut up.....

go see if you can do anything else for your master mccain

and your an idiot for starting off this comment section acting like you are responding to yourself......deparate much

Posted by: Oregon4Obama | September 14, 2008 2:56 PM

Sarah Palin has the highest DISAPPROVAL rating for any VP candidate in recent history.

See here.

It'd be one thing if she was popular and nobody really disliked her. But she is a very polarizing candidate, which means she motivates the Democratic base as much as the Republican base.

Posted by: Elrod | September 14, 2008 2:55 PM

macgvac: No, no one deserves to get shafted. However, we are going to have to pay for the war and everything else we are doing. The money has to come from somewhere and we can't keep borrowing from the Chinese. I don't think there are any easy answers and we are all going to pay for it in one way or another. The tax code needs an overhaul and sometimes it does come down to the more you have the more you pay. I live in an urban setting in the Northeast. Over the last ten years, I've seen a lot of rebuilding. While fixing up old houses is a good thing, do you think it's fair to fix up a neighborhood only to make it too expensive for the people living in it? The money has to come from somewhere.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:53 PM

"Measured against current law in 2009, Senator Obama’s plan raises after-tax incomes by more than 5.5 percent for those in the bottom quintile and also provides more modest increases for those in the next three quintiles (figure 1). The top quintile would experience an average tax increase because of the hikes in the tax rates on capital gains and dividends and the increases in the top two individual income tax rates. The increase in taxes would be dramatic for those at the very top of the income scale, representing 8.7 percent of after-tax income for the top 1 percent of households and 11.5 percent of income for the richest 1 in 1,000.
In contrast, the McCain plan would provide virtually no benefit to households in the bottom quintile, and very modest benefits to those in the next three quintiles. The top quintile would receive a tax cut of more than 3 percent of after-tax income. Within the top quintile, the richest 1 percent of households would receive an average tax cut of 3.4 percent. That figure rises to almost 4.4 percent for the top 0.1 percent of the income distribution."

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:52 PM

So people who buy old houses and fix them up for a living deserve to get shafted ?

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:48 PM

Serge Birbrair:

who is beter to deal with Government Defecits and they are FACTS, not fiction or hearsay

Jimmy Carter? ;-)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:46 PM

Serge Birbrair: That reminds me of what they said about Harry Truman. People said, "giv'm hell Harry." Harry said, "I don't giv'm hell, the give them the truth and they think it's hell." Sometimes the truth hurts, but it's always better than a lie just to get in office.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:46 PM

More lies, I got that phony email also.

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In his proposed income tax, single males who make 30,000 or more will be losing 4,000 more a year. I cant do that.

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:44 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:45 PM

GOD BLESS SARAH PALIN!

Keep that $$ coming baby, Daddy needs a Democratic victory in Nov!

But something about her reminds me of Harriet Myers... Oh yeah! She's a wholly unqualified idealogue whose candidacy is laughable and doomed for failure!

Posted by: Terrorfied | September 14, 2008 2:44 PM

Laughing:

Finally, turn on any major news channel for more than five minutes and you will hear speculation on what the Obama camp needs to do to invalidate Palin. The most popular suggestion is just ignore her, as she seems to be a "flash in the pan" choice anyway. Focus on the issues and Democrats win seems to be conventional wisdom.

This is so typical ... turn on a major news channel ... and believe what your told (0bama would long be president). The fact is, compared to Palin's 2 years as a governor, 0bama's 2 years in the senate (one of which he's been out campaigning) amount to a lower level of experience in the executive.
The dems want 0bama to be president, but consistently harp on Palin's "inexperience" for the vice presidency.

You go and follow the "popular suggestions" of the media ... CNN right?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:44 PM

In his proposed income tax, single males who make 30,000 or more will be losing 4,000 more a year. I cant do that.

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:44 PM

The first $500,000 )of profit) for a couple is exempt.
You are just spreading a bald faced lie.

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A lie you say go and verify his tax plans, i was just as shocked as you my friend.

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:40 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:43 PM

Reality Check:
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who is beter to deal with Government Defecits and they are FACTS, not fiction or hearsay

Government bailouts of the SYSTEMIC problems in Finbancial system and they are FACTS, not fiction or hearsay

Obama who says : taxes must be raised to pay for Bush's and Republicans mistakes or

McCain: who will either raise taxes on middle class or print enough money to make cup of coffee cost $289?

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 2:43 PM

Homesteaded property sold by the owner is exempt $250,000 for a single and $500,000 for a couple. Nothing changes.
Absolute and complete lie.

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CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:41 PM

A lie you say go and verify his tax plans, i was just as shocked as you my friend.

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:40 PM

macgvac: the tax information you've provided is a distortion of the facts. The home sale tax Obama is referring to is the Capital Gains tax which is what you pay if your profit is over the mark or if you sell you house without owning it for two years.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:40 PM

Let's see. One person can do 60 bops per minute. 10 people can do 600 per minute. 500,000.... Go Team Obama. http://www.boppoll.com.

At this fund raising rate, we will be able to retire the debt.

Posted by: mgultch | September 14, 2008 2:39 PM

Promises are cheap, you and me and the rest of the world know McCain can NOT keep them.

WHERE will he get the money to pay for all bailouts?

Do you really want McCain and especially Palin in the next great depression?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26656750

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 2:39 PM


Absolute and utter lie.

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CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:38 PM

flyboy, sorry, had to go to supermarket and buy lamb chops for dinner?
Should I post the receipt or my word is enough?

Secondary,
I am correct because the planet Earth is the sphere and inside this sphere is another sphere which is bigger than Earth.

If you throw accusations without any credible proof, I'll throw debunks which will take your forever to re-debunk.
I bet you I can play this game slightly better than you can...

Why don't you lie that Obama's penis is blue? You know I can't prove otherwise!

Go for it, ma boy! Fly , baby, fly!
:)

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 2:36 PM

All can be verified from obamas own site.

his is something you should be
aware of so you don't get blind-sided.
This is really going to catch a lot
of families off guard. It should
make you worry.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:


CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 4 0% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750


Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them tothese taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!

No Obama 2008 "And you can keep your change"

Posted by: macgvac | September 14, 2008 2:35 PM

Quick link discussing Obama's tax plan versus McCain's: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/us/politics/13check.html

It has long been said we will keep a "presence" in Iraq for many years, akin to what we have in Korea. 10,000 is a reasonable guess, and a number I have heard kicked around. Forgive the lack of a link, just do some reading on the subject and I'm sure you will hear it too.

The Obama "scandals" have been invalidated, and are ignored by all but the craziest conservative commentators, who arguably no longer matter in a race for independents. The lack of Rezko, Ayers, and Wright attack ads by McCain is fairly solid proof of that assessment, but if they matter to you feel free to spout them off in your rants.

Finally, turn on any major news channel for more than five minutes and you will hear speculation on what the Obama camp needs to do to invalidate Palin. The most popular suggestion is just ignore her, as she seems to be a "flash in the pan" choice anyway. Focus on the issues and Democrats win seems to be conventional wisdom.

The Abbreviated Republican Playbook:
If they sound smart, call them elite. If they make sense, belittle them in every way possible. And if they're perfectly correct and the facts are on their side, lie and suppress the facts until the election is over. Works like a charm.

Posted by: Laughing | September 14, 2008 2:35 PM

"At least we're safe" (under Bush)

Were we, or were we not attacked under Bush's watch? Oh, I'm sorry he was actually reading a children's book and not watching. You Repubs are really cult members or just stupid. Aside from political smears and anti-Barack rhetoric you have no platform. Mr. Maverick was running on experience, now he is trying to be Obama with the change thing. HILARIOUS!!! News flash, Hillary tried that at the end of her campaign...ain't gonna work bud.

**********AsperCream Girl***************

are you retarded or just ignorant? Seriously, no sarcasm or offense intended. Comparing what just happened in Texas to Katrina? You're something else. Didn't McCain lose to Bush in an election? You morons are voting for someone who lost to the biggest moron to ever hold the desk. StupidMCnupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:35 PM

JIM:
OBAMA TALKED WITH HILLARY AND THEY BOTH WANTED BIDEN FOR VP BECOUSE SHE COULD NOT BECOME THE PRESIDENT THIS YEAR BUT, SHE WILL IN 4 OR 8 YEARSFOR SURE

Yeah - and she's much better off running against a repub admin. If 0bama does well (fat chance) she won't unseat him - if he screws up she'll have a tough time overcoming the party affiliation - Doh!

Posted by: flyboy | September 14, 2008 2:35 PM

The fact is that neither candidate is going to get us out of Iraq very quickly and neither candidate is going to be able to change our economy over night. Regardless of how we got here, it's going to take a long time to get out. Policy analysts (the nonpartisan type) have made it clear that Obama's plan does have a slight edge over McCain's in terms of pocketbook effect. Who knows what will happen to change this? It all boils down to values. Neither candidate can deliver all the promisese so it becomes about who you do you agree with and who you believe can deliver the most of what you want.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:32 PM

I am a small donor. $25. Big whoop...but if you calculate 2.5 million people donating $25 each, you get 62.5 million dollars. There ya go. Not too large a sum to build up a base with others, for a good cause. So, I think you are wrong. And actually, I AM struggling to fill a gas tank, but saw this as a worthwhile investment. And yes, by the way, they record every contribution. You are not allowed to contribute unless you provide all of your personal information: name, address, phone, age, etc. AND, Obama probably changed his mind because the Dems have been raped through two elections now, and he (or his advisors/party leaders) didn't wanna see it happen again. But, that's just me speculating.

Posted by: A NPA Registered Voter | September 14, 2008 2:29 PM

Serge Birbrair:

hmmm...please present PROOF that those claims are lies.
Without the proof this si pure hearsay on your part.

First - buddy - you didn't make the 10 minutes. 2nd - it was you who was going to prove the lies untrue. Nice slime-out, but no cigar. You proved nothing.

Posted by: flyboy | September 14, 2008 2:29 PM

McCain/Palin pulls ahead!!!!


In yet another category!!!


Spouses to be subpoenaed!


McCain/Palin 1

Obama/Biden 0

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:29 PM

Palin's troubles in Alaska are becoming more known and are turning people off. She is going to leave a vacuum that McCain will have to scramble to fill. He has already lost relevance by sidestepping in order to drum up Palin fervor. People have become disgusted with the McCain shenanigans and are turning away from him. You can't have it both ways. You can't keep moving the goalpost. McCain has chosen to turn his back on what people liked about him. You can't lie so blatantly and not expect blowback. Bush has had his time, McCain won't get his because the majority of us have suffered under the Bush years----- we don't need or want a 90% lookalike.

Posted by: ydyear | September 14, 2008 2:25 PM

The news coming out of Alaska is going to sink Sarah Palin.

As most of you know, a senate committee there has voted to approve subpoenas for Todd Palin and others in the Troopergate scandal.

It was REPUBLICAN senator, Charlie Huggins, who voted with Democrats to approve the subpoenas, thus becoming the tie-breaker.

This is not just some ordinary Republican, either. Check out his bio. He is a retired Army colonel with a Master's degree, a decorated Viet Nam Vet, he lives in Sarah's town of Wasilla, and he is a member of Sarah's church...among other things.

http://www.akrepublicans.org/huggins/index.php

Charlie sounds like an HONEST Republican, something that is few and far between these days. Given his intelligence and military background, he is probably TERRIFIED at the thought of Sarah Palin so close to the presidency.

The Sarah we are seeing on TV is a lie. She is as crooked as they come, and I do believe the honorable Charlie Huggins knows that!! Thank you Charlie Huggins!!

Posted by: lindsay | September 14, 2008 2:25 PM

Why does McCain use such scorch and burn campaign tactics? It's because he is still trapped in the POW mindset.

Posted by: SHAUN-KAR | September 14, 2008 2:23 PM

USA3: Wealthy dems? Yes, there are wealthy dem and wealthy repubs. There are working class dem and working class repubs. There are ideas based on class and ideas based on moral values. Morals values are not absolute -- no one owns the truth. REGISTER TO VOTE AND TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. No matter what you believe. The more people who VOTE, and I mean an informed vote based on YOUR principals, the less the money will be factored into this race and the more chance we have get someone in office that represents the best of us.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:23 PM

OBAMA TALKED WITH HILLARY AND THEY BOTH WANTED BIDEN FOR VP BECOUSE SHE COULD NOT BECOME THE PRESIDENT THIS YEAR BUT, SHE WILL IN 4 OR 8 YEARSFOR SURE

Posted by: JIM | September 14, 2008 2:21 PM

Campaign finance reform.

Obama initially agreed to support it, then refused. Why?

Where is the Obama money coming from? Small donors? Not likely since everyone is struggling to fill a gas tank, put food on table.

Are bundlers a likely source? What is bundling and how is it controlled?

Does the Elections Commission have any data on the source of campaign contributions? This IS an incredible amount of money.

WHO is funding the Obama campaign?

Who will Obama be indebted to after the election?

Who is desperate to place Obama in the oval office? (only half of the DEM voters supported him in the primaries).

INvestigative reporters where are you?

Are these dumb questions?
Feedback, please.

- a concerned democrat who makes the $1 Pres Election donation on tax return

Posted by: cate | September 14, 2008 2:21 PM

Yeh Obama! I've contributed more after reading the comments on this site!! Change We Need! Obama/Biden08!

Posted by: T | September 14, 2008 2:20 PM

"Serge Birbrair:

Lie: lower taxes on middle class."

Sure, why not? If he raises enough taxes on upper classes, he can pull it of.

"
Lie: time line for withdrawing troops. Nice idea, but a gimmick."

Excuse me, how can idea be a lie?
It's either LIE (misreperesentation of facts) or an idea (which is suggestion)?
Are we talkig the same English?

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Lie: Ayers? I barely know him
Lie: Wright? I never heard him say those things
Lie: Resko? distant acquaintance.
"

hmmm...please present PROOF that those claims are lies.
Without the proof this si pure hearsay on your part.

Got more?

10 minutes, the clock is ticking buddy.

Posted by: flyboy

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 2:20 PM

I want to see the liberal
media biting their tongues,
if obama loses.
How could this happen?
How stupid are these
idiots.
yes, vote obama or
you are an idiot,
and a racist.
what a campaign.
NobamaBaby'

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 14, 2008 2:18 PM

For those of you who love funny political ads, here is a new one: the hippie card. Time-warp? Check it out in my blog!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: DCfred | September 14, 2008 2:18 PM

Lol Barren, do you know what is sad? I read your post and almost didn't catch the sarcasm. The Republican party has become so rediculous I amost can't tell whats a joke and what isn't. If they get elected again (and they might, people here are stupid almost beyond belief) it will be the end of America as a major world power. The comical thing is, once this ship sinks under the weight of conservative insanity, the only ones with any hope of escaping to other more prosperous nations will be educated liberals. If I didn't love the American dream so much I might laugh at the irony...

Posted by: Laughing | September 14, 2008 2:18 PM

Laughing:

Fat chance. ROFLMAO. You can see 10000 soldiers staying longer ... wow, what are you, an economist for military strategy who's also a diplomat and a fortune teller?

Cute.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:17 PM

I became a new donor to the Obama campaign in August. After I heard him at the DNC and realized he actually does have plans and not just rhetoric to give to America, I put my support behind him 100% I encourage everyone to truly look at the facts, not just the garbage we are fed through the mainstream media. Actually take a moment to educate yourself on each of the candidates before you make a decision based on media bias - or views your family has instilled in you - make your decision for yourself, and what YOU truly believe in. I have bought into the grass roots spirit of this campaign because I believe that Obama is the kind of change we need as a nation and he is who I trust to build the positive future that MY eventual children will see. Vote for Obama, and you will see GOOD change. I will donate to his campaign every month from now until the election, perhaps multiple times. You should consider doing the same: www.barackobama.com

Posted by: 25 y.o. FL Female | September 14, 2008 2:16 PM

a bunch of wealthy liberals
preaching class warfare.
does it get any sweeter!
I work with dummies
who think voting dem
will save them money.
Not So...
they are 'rich' according
to the dems'
and stupid to buy into
this lame attempt,
or class warfare'
Nobama

Posted by: USA3 | September 14, 2008 2:15 PM

Jenqui: please stop crowding up this comment board. Contribute something or go away. Thank you.

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:13 PM

Flyboy, almost every nonpartisan economist agrees that Obama's economic policy will benefit middle class families far more than McCains; I've seen numbers ranging from 50% to 75% advantage to Obama. And the timeline for troop withdrawal is already being formulated and discussed with the Iraqis; its likely Obama will have a large segment of the heavy lifting done for him. I can see 10,000 soldiers staying for a few years longer, but it will be a heck of an improvement over the Republican alternative.

As far as the rest of your list, those “scandals” have been thoroughly discussed and dismissed by the population at large for the swift boat nonsense that they are. That’s why even the maverick wannabe McCain doesn’t air attack ads with them. If I were you, I would be bracing for the attempted destruction of the Republicans new poster girl Palin. She's your only real shot at winning; if the Democrats either destroy her image or leave her alone and get people to forget about her the election is theirs.

Posted by: Laughing | September 14, 2008 2:12 PM

Obama won’t change anything. He won’t contribute 150 billion to renewable energy. He won’t aggressively make Detroit or America the fore-front leader in economical, energy efficient cars. He won’t fund and enhance our education and, by the way, our education is fine, obviously, because who’s the best country in the world?? (Answer: America)

McCain is the agent of ‘change’. Why else would they call him “Maverick?” He wants reform. Both McCain and Palin support the Bush tax cuts. (Alan Greenspan is wrong about the economy not being able to support those tax cuts, otherwise, why would McCain and Palin support the tax cuts?)They both know National Security, one a POW and the other lives by Russia. They both are Pro-Life, which, the government should make that choice for us and, as for energy, lets renew it, Drill-Baby-Drill!!!!

Posted by: Barren Wells | September 14, 2008 2:11 PM

Like aspergirl says, donate to the AIP a group the Palin's are firmly behind.

http://www.akip.org/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:11 PM

ANONYMOUS WROTE:

ydyear:

Not a disdain for intelligence - a disdain for dishonesty - for people that copy speeches from their buddies, for people who claim to be professors, when really they were a lecturer, for people who associate with the likes of Ayers, Resko, Davis, Wright ...

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Yeah, like Ayers, Wright, Davis, Resko and Daley. Hey, maybe they can all have a reunion at the place up the river.

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Posted by: Jenqui | September 14, 2008 2:10 PM

So where were the poor, working and middle class Republican's the last 8 years? Do they think that the economy is "fundamentally sound" as McCain termed it?

Thing about the last 8 years of GOP leadership, it is not concerned about partisan affiliation, it is about dollars and cents. If you have the dollars you speak their language, if not, they honestly don't give a damn about you.

That said, if you are a rich democrat you benefit in a GOP trickle-down economy, if you are a poor or working class Republican you are given the shaft no differently than a democrat.

This partisan fight is a sham. In the United States, it remains the haves vs. the have nots.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:09 PM

Obama raised a lot of money. Congratulations!

But if Obama wins the election, does it say that our democracy is decided by money? So, to prove it otherwise, we have to vote for Obama's opponent, right?

Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008 2:08 PM

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Posted by: Dinh | September 14, 2008 2:07 PM


ANONYMOUS WROTE:

ydyear:

Not a disdain for intelligence - a disdain for dishonesty - for people that copy speeches from their buddies, for people who claim to be professors, when really they were a lecturer, for people who associate with the likes of Ayers, Resko, Davis, Wright ...

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Posted by: ydyear | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM

In a few weeks the Palin buble/phenom will have lost its luster to those in the middle who are going to decide this election. She is so much further to the right politically on all the social issues than McCain- but because she is an exciting woman from a frontier state she has been given a bye on this… but not much longer. She pushed for banning of books in her towns library-books she had not read. She fired the head of the dept of Art/culture because she didn’t like the art that had been displayed in the past. Her reign as mayor and governor has been in the mold of Bush/Cheney secrecy and if you are not with us you are an enemy of the state and we will fire you and belittle you. She hired high school class mates to fill important jobs, irrespective of qualifications after taking the governorship- a real estate agent to be head of agriculture (because the appointee had always liked cows). She argued that creationism, a faith based concept, should be taught side by side on equal footing with evolution (a scientific concept that has been established with near certainty on par with the theory of gravity… if you enjoy most of modern medicines, you are enjoying the fruit of evolutional theory realized in a petri dish). Her claim of national security expertise is based on being near Russia and in command of the National Guard- a guard that she never gave a single order to, she is exciting, an outdoorsman, someone you might like to have beers with, but her interviews to date have shown her to be very much over her head on national and international issues. Do you know how small Alaska is and how conservative it is? Do we really care if she is popular in one of the most conservative book banning states in the country? The established fact is that she was FOR the bridge to nowhere until congress decided it was DOA, and even then she accepted much off the intended money and spent the pork, she has been a governor who has gone after, and gone after with lobbyists, to get pork. Alaskan residents are the beneficiaries of the highest federal task dollar pork back to the state per capita than any other state in the union, she has not had to make many hard economic decisions as governor of Alaska given the huge income Alaska has from its oil… clearly not a paradigm that she/one can use for the nation since our country only has 3% of the known oil reserves in the world, and because Alaska has oil that makes her an expert on energy and economic policy? So her executive experience amounts to what? The mayor of Richmond has similar if not more germane executive experience than Ms Palin.

It is Palin, more than McCain, that will bring four more years of Bush! Secrecy, vendettas, decisions from the hip without rational thought and discussion (please, no more my way or the highway that has gotten our country to the brink we find ourselves on). Is our country so stupid as to vote for someone who wins exciting young person of the month instead off voting for someone who embraces OPEN rational thought, discussion, an understanding and appreciation of history and a desire to actually change things (what is it that McCain/Palin intend to change… pretty much nothing besides talk of Pork (which McCain’s advisors and Palin have actually thrived on) and bipartisanship- which is not how McCain has been running his campaign (look at what people are actually doing and not what they are saying)….? I believe the public and indeed the press, when you get down to brass tacks, love our country too much than to vote for an “idol-like” VP choice rather than a someone who could actually serve.

Posted by: arthurW from VA | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM

Uneducated Americans love uneducated Presidents and VPs!!
Busch/Cheney and McCain/Palin
America your superpower days are gone! Long live the big recession!

Posted by: Mike (Germany) | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM

First of all, why should we care what religion Obama is. He is an American and from everything I've heard him say and based on his actions, all of this indicates that he is just as much an American and any of us on this comment board (yes, and that means all of you -- black, white, liberal, republican, whoever you are). We all, obviously (I hope), care what happens in November, some of us using more colorful language, but nevertheless, everyone cares. Obama a terrorist? Come on, that's quite a stretch and there are no facts to back it up. Let's start with facts and move from there. Isn't that what we are suppose to do as responsible citizens? Or is that just too boring?

Posted by: PleaseChange | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM

Hillary wins the votes,
Obama gets the delegates?
Democrats should be ashamed
they let money and washington
influence choosing their candidate.
Too bad their are no
caucaus's in Nov.
or superdelegates.
Nobama

Posted by: USA3 | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM

Thats a Wao wao factor!!! the mongoose shooting hockey mama fired the public who are sick of KARL ROVE POLITICS! TO THE PUBLIC!!! WHO GAVE THE DONATIONS, I SAY YOU ARE TRUE PATRIOTS!! WHO LOVES PEACE!!KUDOS TO YOU AALLLLLLLLLL!!!. Please stop arguing with the republicans! did I say retards! its a waste of time!!. Please ask their star palin!! to appear at any neutral media outlet!! ABC,FOX are right wing so called conservative media stations!!. Palin is visiting fox for an interview! can you imagine sean hannity will be the interviewer?? thats a joke!! its an abuse of our intelligence!! ABC and FOX made Palin !!how do you expect them to ask hard questions for you!! By the way!! ignore those polling numbers! they are called lying with statistics!!, The reps are playing games with your minds!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:02 PM


Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM

Palin smells like pee, also poo. Vote McKinney 08

Posted by: Sam | September 14, 2008 2:05 PM

Obama is shattering fundraising records because people really can't stand the direction the GOP has taken the country. Under Bush we have seen the deficit skyrocket, we have seen unemployment skyrocket, we have seen home foreclosures skyrocket, all the while CEOs of big business have the government safety net spread out under them. We have seen reckless military action. We have seen the rise of democratically anti American leaders. We have seen the scandals that barely get covered because there is always a new scandal. Politicized departments - DOJ anyone. Corruption and scandal with oil industries and their lobbyists. The list is so long and so scary it is hard to believe. The scary thing is the McCain campaigns largely on continuing these same policies. The same failed GOP policies. The reformer who ran in 2000 is not the politician who is running in 2008.

No way, No McCain.

Obama 08

Posted by: birdman | September 14, 2008 2:05 PM

Obama has to raise lots of money, because he spends lots of money. Sounds like a BIG GOVERNMENT spend and tax at will democrat to me.

Posted by: zlato | September 14, 2008 2:04 PM

It's well known to us Alaskans that Palin smells like a pig; we wish she'd consider taking a bath at least once a week like the rest of us.

Posted by: Jonathan | September 14, 2008 2:04 PM

Hurt? Woohaha - read and weep:

Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3
National Gallup Tracking McCain 47, Obama 45 McCain +2
National Rasmussen Tracking McCain 48, Obama 45 McCain +3
National Hotline/FD Tracking McCain 45, Obama 44 McCain +1
National Newsweek McCain 46, Obama 46 Tie

Posted by: flyboy | September 14, 2008 2:02 PM

Yeah - the Obama camp is right about their groundwork for reasons beyond the campaign. First of all, a strong ground presence completely embraces and echoes a strong philosophical bent that he promotes. This is, essentially, that democracy is a process - something, of course, that is pivotal to this country. In other words, it isn't just voting - it is also participation. It is true that folks who were hanging on the peripheries of this election suddenly jumped in after seeing the convention. It strikes me that states have to find a way to embrace these folks, keep them interested with a sense of purpose and mobilize them. Offices have to find ways to keep the energy and excitement active outside of Obama. That means slating events ... rallying for local news time with these events ... you also have to have good and pointed press sections that can skillfully make the national event a local event by tying in what is happening locally to the overall national view. Hopefully they have a few oldies working with young teams. The Obama campaign cannot step down their ads, but their ads have to somehow ... and here we have all failed ... delineate what kind of crisis this country is facing - not just for 'poor working class democrats'!!! Many republicans have benefited from policies and positions that the democrats have taken - but they just are unable to see this. Joe and Betty Shmoe on the corner are not able to see how their kids have lost out great opportunity over the last 8 years. Do they understand that their retirement benefits can barely cover the cost of a household in this economy? AND that it doesn't have to be that way? Why are there not ads where Biden says, "Obama CUTS taxes for working class families" which makes up some 70 % of this country. And you have to repeat it - why? Because the spending from this sector is what it is the most sensitive to spurring on the economy!!!!! They have to place ads repeating the AGENDA - in the same way that the lies are being repeated.

Posted by: legitimate Position | September 14, 2008 2:01 PM

HURRICANE REVEALS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MCCAIN-PALIN REPUBLICANS & OBAMA-BIDEN DEMOCRATS

Many streets in Texas that were underwater are already cleared of water & debris -- by the people themselves. While there are weeks, and possibly months of work to do to repair electrical, structural & infrastructure damage, many streets of Texas towns were already cleared after the storm surge passed. Individuals cleared storm drains so that water could drain and took out chainsaws and started hauling the cut-up trees & debris off their streets, one day after the hurricane hit.

Now they could have sat for weeks and months, in dire straits, starving and preying on each other criminally, but they did not. The welfare mentality of the Democrat-dominated community is alien to these Republican Texans. They have already started tackling for themselves the kind of work that many in New Orleans are still waiting for the government to provide them.

This is not to say that the residents in New Orleans could have rebuilt the levees themselves or pumped out below-sea-level submerged streets. But many, many people in that area of the country own boats -- whether they be dinghys, outboards, power boats or working fishing boats. The spectacle of weeks of people languishing and starving in the drowned town while able-bodied, enterprising individuals looted, preyed and killed on each other and the more defenseless, is a Democratic culture phenomenon.

There is no end to the money, resources and aid that America can pour into the do-for-me, welfare mentality communities of Democratic-dominated cities. When the fundamental decision-making of the individuals are to expect help rather than work to meet their needs, no amount of money will be enough.

Similarly, there is no amount of money that Democrats can pour into Barack Obama's campaign now to save it. When the candidate runs his campaign by marginalizing and belittling other demographics, as he did with Hillary Clinton and her supporters, there is no saving his campaign from being that of the change we don't want.

It's all over and it was over when John McCain declared Sarah Palin as his VP pick after Barack Obama passed over Hillary Clinton.

The ways in which one can count how the foregoing sentence undermines Barack Obama are too many to count or even put in one post or article. E.g. John McCain is humble enough to have another star on his ticket. Barack Obama is not. McCain si man enough to have a woman on his ticket, Obama is not. On and on.

Just like 75 percent of the post-hurricane New Orleans debacles were due to the welfare mentality of the victims and "me-first" mentality of the looters and predators, and the expectation that government is to supply all the remedies for a populace that chooses to live below sea level in hurricane alley, Barack Obama's failures are self-inflicted and built in.

No amount of money will build adequate levees against his rejection by the electorate now.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 14, 2008 2:01 PM

it's so sad to see how much hatred runs thru the republicans red veins. so ironic and hypocrytical that these people are supposedly "the moral compass" and self proclaimed conservatives. the only thing conservative about someone dumb enough to support the same group that bought this country bush/cheney/rove is their intelligence. it is beyond me how any woman rep or Dem could be anything but insulted and outraged about the selection of Palin. The politicizing of his veep pick, constant lies and phony outrages amplify Obama's more of the same mantra and these rep cult like supporters jus cling to their bibles like children of the corn and follow like zombies. I guess lying, forcing young unprotected sex having fornicators to get married, leaving your wife when she's in need to marry a younger rich and connected woman, and falsely smearing a superior candidate is what rep are looking for. Sad. no wonder why we went from leaders of the free world to a laughing stock. what a difference 8 yrs makes. in the words of Bush...unbewievable...or was that elmer fudd? what's the difference. for my fellow dems, asking the same people who voted bush twice to get a art is like asking your dog to speak...ain't gonna happen. more than half of the people voting for Barack are new voters invisible to polls....trust me...it ain't close. without cheating and risking a civil war...it's in the bag. HANDILY

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:00 PM

@RickF, Flyboy:

Yeah, right, Obama's the one changing his mind daily... SURE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Open your eyes. I know you've been hurt, but think about who's been doing the hurting. The future CAN be a better place, but we need to put aside our spite...

Yes we can.

Posted by: JT | September 14, 2008 1:59 PM

ydyear:

Not a disdain for intelligence - a disdain for dishonesty - for people that copy speeches from their buddies, for people who claim to be professors, when really they were a lecturer, for people who associate with the likes of Ayers, Resko, Davis, Wright ...

Who ever said 0 was intelligent?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:58 PM

Just think this country taken over by nonproductive chicago style politics.

Posted by: David | September 14, 2008 1:55 PM

Obama has great appeal to many, just maybe not many of you who post here that have a disdain for intelligence. What appeal John McCain had he lost when he chose to abandon principal and integrity and start mudslinging on the level of what sank his campaign in 2000. I guess enough time has gone by that McCain's pain and disgust wore off. When politicians abandon their principles then all that is left is greed and self-interest. That's about 90% of it.

Posted by: ydyear | September 14, 2008 1:54 PM

I see AsperGirl has finally come out of the closet and admits she's a rockhard Republican after all.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington blade | September 14, 2008 1:54 PM

Rick F:

Nahh - won't be hard, he won't be able to say: "what she said". What's the name of the Russian President again me.. me... Nope, Johnny will cream him ;-)

Posted by: flyboy | September 14, 2008 1:52 PM

WHY lie coyote change for same bush for brain
ect. ect. plots with the beautiful pit bull against the road runner as the money rains where they wish they were. BEEP BEEP

Posted by: variezn34gm | September 14, 2008 1:49 PM

What are Obama's positions this week? Is he for drilling or against it? Is he for the wars or against them? Is he for more taxes on entrepreneurs and more unemployment or against it?

How can 95% of Americans get a tax break when only 60% of Americans pay income tax? Is he just going to give away money to almost everyone?

It is going to be difficult to debate Obama because we do not know from day to day what he is for and what he is against.

Posted by: Rick F | September 14, 2008 1:48 PM

I love it when repube's start to panic. "swift boat" they cry! They'll be crying all right. Its so funny that the ONLY hope they have is for slime and lies because they offer NOTHING to the Amercian people except more of the same... impeach Bush, and Indict Cheney then prosecute them both... now where did I put that waterboard.......

Posted by: LisaK from TacWa | September 14, 2008 1:47 PM

Hey Howard, I guess you conveniently forgot that Obama has over 2.5 million individual donors. I guess I'm an Obama sucker as well since I donated some money to a cause that I believe in.

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 1:46 PM

Aspergirl, you are an uneducated idiot. Go cry yourself to sleep.

Posted by: Firebum531 | September 14, 2008 1:44 PM

Serge Birbrair:

Lie: lower taxes on middle class.

Lie: time line for withdrawing troops. Nice idea, but a gimmick.

oh, I could go on.

Lie: Ayers? I barely know him
Lie: Wright? I never heard him say those things
Lie: Resko? distant acquaintance.

10 minutes, the clock is ticking buddy.

Posted by: flyboy | September 14, 2008 1:43 PM

Sorry, Bar-rock-star, you are old news. There is a new rock star on the scene, and her name is Palin. And her star status will last through November.

Obama will need to spend his money wisely going forward because it will be tougher for him to attract it.

Posted by: Rick F | September 14, 2008 1:42 PM

"At least Bush kept America safe."

In what way exactly? By invading and occupying a country that had nothing to do with September 11th and letting Osama Bin Laden go free? By torturing people and setting up secret prisons? Seems to me Bush has bungled just about everything he's touched. And don't tell me that "we haven't had a terrorist attack since 9/11," because I could just as easily say that this rock keeps away tigers. I mean, I don't know how it works. But I don't see any tigers, do you?

Posted by: drgrepper | September 14, 2008 1:42 PM

The GOP is the true party of change! Soon abortion will be illegal, the ban on off-shore drilling will be lifted, and we'll be setting new records for deficit spending. Now that's change everyone can beleive in, right?!

Posted by: ctharp | September 14, 2008 1:38 PM

ALASKA LOVES SARAH for the great work she has done reforming government to work for the citizens, and AMERICA IS FALLING IN LOVE WITH SARAH for her genuine sincerity, honesty and brilliant mind.

It is time to recognize that women can do a great job, many times better than men and Sarah Palin's record shows she is exceptional.

The Obama campaign and the liberal media is in disarray, confused and foaming at the mouth after the Maverick, John McCain chose Sarah Palin, a woman reformer for VP. Their response has been a vicious attack on Sarah ranging from insults to smearing and the sexist tactics that brought Hillary's campaign crashing down.

Obama fractured and divided the democratic party when he rejected the choice of 18 million democrats and instead of choosing Hillary for VP, he chose an old Washington politician Joe Biden, and by this grave mistake in choice, negated the flag of "change" Obama had been waiving and replaced it with the "more of the same" one.

On the other side, The Maverick stole the mantra of change from Barack when he selected a woman reformer for VP, who has gained the respect of the State she governs as well as of the nation governors.

The McCain/Palin ticket has also given hope to all the 18 million former Hillary supporters who now have a very compelling reason to vote for the republican ticket, as a way to put their country first by electing a president that has the qualifications, experience and love for our country and at the same time elect a woman to the White House as equal partners in governance and leadership of our country.

Country First!
DEMOCRATS FOR McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Manolete | September 14, 2008 1:38 PM

McCainthechangeagent,
do you know you are the FIRST person who claimed Obama was lieing about anything?

Can you post what he is lieing about?

Shoot,
I promise to debunk every claim of yours in under 10 minutes.

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 1:35 PM

"The American Issues Project"

Please donate to a group that is helping to combat the now-familiar smear tactics of the AIP and the Swift Boat crowd:

http://www.seiu.org/


Posted by: drgrepper | September 14, 2008 1:35 PM

Mccain is a liberal who wants to let illegal aliens overrun the country if they like, he has voted democrat against the views of his colleagues so many times that it's obvious he hold many of the views of the democrat party.
But even if he isn't so hot at flying an aircraft and received special treatment because he was the son of an admiral, I believe he actually means it when he says he wants to unite the parties and he wants change. It's just that I don't like the change he wants.

Obama on the other hand. Well, he talks about change and he says he wants to bring hope, but only walks away from supporting his obviously anti-white and possibly anti-american pastor once the media gets ahold of it. He was supported by bill ayers (do a wiki search on it) who as far as anyone know is still unapologetic over his admitted involvement in terrorism against the US. His rhetoric is really quite standard, and coming out of Chicago politics proves that he had to make deals to get this far. Obviously he cannot stand for "no more politics as usual" because that would mean he would not have gotten to where he is today.

I will not support either candidate, they both are well beneath my support.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:34 PM

The difference is this:

Obama is running for the Presidency of the United States of
America.

McCain and party want to remain in charge of the United States of
HALLIBURTON.

I KNOW who I'm voting for!

Posted by: zordnum | September 14, 2008 1:33 PM

Amazing how well "Hope" and "Change" sell ... and those people are supposed to be the "college educated", hip, intellectual elite?
0bama - your return will be zero ;-)

Ayers, Resko, Davis, Daley, Wright .... nice!

Posted by: flyboy | September 14, 2008 1:33 PM

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 1:32 PM

Before you good people give another cent of your hard earned money ask Obama,
1. Whether US should go to war with Russia over Georgia? 2. What should US do should Russsia invades Ukraine or Poland? 3. With the US economy in such a bad shape and the US military stretched to its limits, can the US still win an all out war with Russia? 4. Would he bring back the military draft? 5. Should he defend Israel with the last drop of American blood? 6. Would he pledge that he would resign his presidency should US be attacked by terrorists under his watch?

At least Bush kept America safe.

Posted by: tgtteo | September 14, 2008 1:31 PM

The Swiftboat pigs are ready to come after Senator Obama with the same garbage they threw at Senator Kerry. Below are the two pigs that are financing and organizing like-minded pigs to join their attack on Senator Obama.

We must not allow them to go unchallenged! Do what you want with the below information.

Tony Feather is a principal in the lobbying firm of Feather Larson and Synhorst, which represents the NRA and PHRMA, and he stands to make millions if the Republicans win and he and other human scum Republican lobbyists can keep their stranglehold on OUR govt. Here is his company address and contact information:

12181 Margo Ave. S Ste. 220, Hastings, MN, United States
(651)480-0123,


Likewise for Chris LaCivita, another Joe McCarthy clone who lines his pockets at the expense of good hard-working Americans at some lobbying firm called Crosslink Strategy - here is their phone number and address:

1775 I Street, NW
Suite 700
Washington, DC 20006
V 202.338.0022
F 202.551.9966


Posted by: pj45 | September 14, 2008 1:30 PM

>> tom wrote: "palin has said she called up the national guard to send them to other states to help in emergencies..that is a lie.."

That's not a lie. Gov. Jindal requested some national guard support from her just last month when the hurricane approached New Orleans, and she sent some.

What are lies is the new sleazy push on the part of the media, coordinated with the Obama campaign, to publish stories to falsely paint the McCain-Palin ticket as liars and corrupt politicians.

They started this about Wednesday of last week when it was becoming clear that the McCain convention bounce would stick.

You're all a bunch of hypocritical, lying sleazebags & the American electorate isn't going to fall for this last example of media election year corruption supporting Obama's candidacy.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 14, 2008 1:30 PM

Obama is doing nothing but providing lip service. Look at his campaign. He does nothing but spend money and spew lies.

The only candidates that can say they stand for change and have the record to prove it are McCain and Palin. Obama has done nothing but lie, cheat and steel his way to the top. Anyone that believes otherwise is willingly ignorant.

I believe that's the definition of 'stupid'.

Posted by: McCainthechangeagent | September 14, 2008 1:30 PM


Huh? Go to the boppoll and bop McCain. NO ! Instead, contact all your acquaintances around the country and make sure they will register to vote. Sheesh, live in the real world for once !

We deserve better...

Posted by: Upwards | September 14, 2008 1:27 PM

I see obama supporters cannot refrain from calling people opposed to their hero "cult members" or the like

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:26 PM

Please donate to a group that will be running advertisements against the Obama campaign on topics that the McCain campaign will not touch, and counterattack against the systematic media campaign to misrepresent Sarah Palin, go to:

The American Issues Project
http://www.americanissuesproject.org/

The American Issues Project was started by some of the people who supported the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group that deflated the campaign hype around some of John Kerry's Vietnam War medals. If you recall, it turned out Kerry had been awarded some of his medals for frivolous reasons or for doing things other men who served with him were doing every day, including his campaign-hyped medal for "heroism".

Similarly, the media has been attacking Sarah Palin on her religion and sexuality and family, after declaring those topics "off limits" for Barack Obama! These areas: religion, family history and governance record, have all been declared off-limits when criticizing Barack Obama, as we all know. So while the Obama campaign and the media attack the character of the McCain-Palin ticket freely and dishonestly, John McCain's hands are tied because his campaign has sworn off attacking his opponent's poor family background, his religion problems and other personal issues. Finally, the Obama supporters among the media have also started systematically misrepresenting Sarah Palin's governing history and professional life.

Please donate to the American Issues Project, which is more free to respond to the Obama campaign and the media to defend the McCain-Palin ticket in kind, to counterattack the misrepresentations and distortions of Sarah Palin's religion, family and governance history that are being misreported by the media and advertised by the Obama campaign.

Help level the playing field against the media false reporting. Help "swiftboat" the rafts of lies that the American media and the Obama camp are floating this year about Sarah Palin.

Donate to: American Issues Project
www.americanissuesproject.org/

Also donate to the RNC at:
secure.gop.com/donate/

Also add a GOP search toolbar to your web browser & help generate revenues that way:
www.gop.com/toolbar/

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 14, 2008 1:25 PM

I am not sure how much Obama raised over the course of his campaigning... my guess is in the order of 30 to 50 millions each month. Where are those money come from if not from the lobbyists.

Once Obama in the White House, the first thing is payback to those rich lobbyists at the taxpayer expenses (you and me) at 100 times in return... I really hope that Obama loose this election so we and our children do NOT have to pay for his Campaign. He is already on the leash of the lobbyists.

Posted by: Sacto man | September 14, 2008 1:25 PM

I now firmly hold that Obama/Biden will be left in the scrap pile of failed democratic candidates. Even with the press squarely on his side and the young crowd thinking he's cooler than Elvis they could not keep a really old man with no charisma and a hot not so smart chick from surging and perhaps now having a real victory in November (this was unthinkable a few short months ago). All the love from the press can't change the fact that all the candidates are a joke. There is no middle of the road candidates anymore and people will vote the same way they did in 2004. This means the republicans will win again. My vote is still with a true independent Ross Perot. Both political parties are selling a load of nonsense and setting rules that preclude any independent from ever winning. Now there's a story the press should talk about!!

Posted by: The Patriot | September 14, 2008 1:25 PM

palin has said she called up the national guard to send them to other states to help in emergencies..that is a lie..palin said she has been to iraq..that is a lie..palin said she voted against the bridge to nowhere..that is a lie..palin said she is against earmarks got 200 million in earmarks..that is a lie..alaska recieves the most money in earmarks per person then any other state..where is the coverage of the main stream media to expose the truth

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:24 PM

It comes down to one thing, obama says he is christian now but do you all know what he was before the running. YES that is correct MUSLIM. So do all your christians out there black , white and and all alike is this what you want a Muslim linked to terrorists. Does it really matter what color is he or does it matter what religion and belief system he really supports.

Posted by: GV | September 14, 2008 1:24 PM

Obama/Biden '08

You see - ordinary people are speaking up (and donating).

Women against Sarah Palin - new, growing blog site:

http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Julie | September 14, 2008 1:23 PM

I see the Republican National cult members are out in force as usual.

I'm glad to see Obama supporters are continuing to support the only chance for change that we Americans have. We are at a crossroads of either moving American forward to a better country (which Republicans do not deserve), or more of the same bankrupt and failed policies of the past eight years.

Remember the lies that got us into a never ending war in Iraq. That has been the whole basis of the Bush presidency. Without Iraq, Bush would have been impeached years ago.

McCain/Palin are more of the same and AMerican cannot afford to take such a risk with the least likely people to change in a complex and ever changing world. The hypocracy of their 'America First' campaign is appalling, considering it is really a 'Me First' campaign - me being John McCain.

Obama is a strong leader - look at how his change campaign influenced McCain, who is now using that platform in his own campaign, albeit in a dishonest way. Look at how Obama called for the actions in Pakistan a year ago, that the Bush Administration is carrying out today, weeks before his leaving office.

Obama know what is going on in the world - and is a leader. McCain and Palin are not what America needs right now. There are over 11 million more registered Democrats than Republicans and we must all vote on November 4th.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 14, 2008 1:20 PM

I can't wait until this Friday payday! I'll be donating$200 to Obama/Biden. I hope they start sliming those liars!

Posted by: Truth Maverick | September 14, 2008 1:19 PM

Excellent article by Tom Friedman...

Making America Stupid

"Why would Republicans, the party of business, want to focus our country on breathing life into a 19th-century technology — fossil fuels — rather than giving birth to a 21st-century technology — renewable energy? As I have argued before, it reminds me of someone who, on the eve of the I.T. revolution — on the eve of PCs and the Internet — is pounding the table for America to make more I.B.M. typewriters and carbon paper. “Typewriters, baby, typewriters.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opinion/14friedman.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:18 PM

to Heeat:

After 200 years and you still think everything is about race, what does that say about you?

You really think that being black has anything to do with why people don't like Obama? White people WANT to vote for someone with a different color than themselves, they want to prove to themselves that they aren't as racist as they are constantly being told that they are, "white guilt" as it's called.

It's simply that Obama is all hype, and does not really want to change things to something better, he just wants a following that will vote for him, so he will say what he needs to.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:17 PM

Look at all the trolls who came out:

See republicans are blaming when things don't do their way... gays, jews, "liberal" media. Aren't you all suppose to be at Church? Drill baby drill? Oil is going to run out. Economy is down - business cycle.

Did you go to Church today?

Posted by: mccainpalin2008 | September 14, 2008 1:14 PM

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 1:14 PM

The Republic Party is just starting to trot out its true colors again.

Steve "no more nice Steve" Schultz (the guy who sends out fake sex surveys) is at the helm and things are just heating up. His head is shaved and he's fatter than the last time, but he's mean as a fighting cock.

John McCain has been bitten on the neck by these traitors and I am really sad about it.

Sarah Palin is a fraud right up there in readiness with Admiral Stockwell. All antlers and no moose.

Posted by: Alex | September 14, 2008 1:12 PM

Check out this website.....it will help you decide if you desire 4 more yrs of the same....

mccainlobbyists.com

Now, if your happy after visiting the website....by all means vote for Sarah Palin....for you ppl do realize tht tht is would be running the McSame Presidency....oh, and lobbyists and Rove!!

SICK.SICK,SICK.....And if I were a white person I would feel embrassed.....after 200+ yrs and you still feel inferior to a black man? What does tht say ABOUT YOU???

Posted by: Hheeaatt | September 14, 2008 1:12 PM

Hey, McCain supporters, how will your guy solve this small problem?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26656750

By killing wolves in Alaska or by taxing your medical insurance provided by the employer?

Bailing out the big and messy Wall Street firms won't do it.

This friendly and non controversial question was brought to you by
http://nothingcontroversial.com

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 1:11 PM

To Jay: why play the race card, I am not talking about his race, I am talking about his rhetoric that is not backed up by actions or record.

Posted by: James Van Daele | September 14, 2008 1:09 PM

Please donate to a group that will be running advertisements against the Obama campaign on topics that the McCain campaign will not touch, go to:

The American Issues Project
http://www.americanissuesproject.org/

The American Issues Project is started by some of the people who supported the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group that deflated the campaign hype around some of John Kerry's Vietnam War medals. If you recall, it turned out Kerry had been awarded some of his medals for frivolous reasons or for doing things other men who served with him were doing every day, including his campaign-hyped medal for "heroism".

Similarly, the media has taken to attacking Sarah Palin on her religion and sexuality and family. As recently as late last week we saw Charles Gibson of ABC news questioning Palin on some statements she made about "God's plan" and the Iraq War, that he misquoted to her in the interview and then insisted he had quoted accurately. His misquote was broadcast by ABC in 20/20 and online, with the part where she objected that he was misquoting her edited out so that it looked as if she was affirming is claim that she quoted the Iraq War was "God's plan". This is only one example of many in which the media, in support of the Obama campaign, has begun a siege against the reputations of Sarah Palin by falsely portraying her governance record, as well has her religious behavior and her family.

These areas: religion, family history and governance record, have all been declared off-limits when criticizing Barack Obama, as we all know. So while the Obama campaign and the media attack the character of the McCain-Palin ticket freely and dishonestly, John McCain's hands are tied because his campaign has sworn off attacking his opponent's poor family background, his religion problems and other personal issues.

Please donate to the American Issues Project, which is more free and willing to respond to the Obama campaign and the media to defend the McCain-Palin ticket in kind, to counterattack the sleazy, despicable misrepresentations of Sarah Palin's religion, family and governance history that is being misreported by the media and advertised by the Obama campaign.

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Posted by: AsperGirl | September 14, 2008 1:08 PM

you can show everyone what you really think of Obama here http://www.Obama-Biden-Laden.com WARNING: NOT FOR LIBERALS!!!

Posted by: NObama | September 14, 2008 1:07 PM

Well....I guess public education IS working. I mean...look...a bunch of people donating to a socialist cause.

To the poster that said McCain doesn't benefit the middle class...ummm...grow up. The conservative agenda benefits the middle class more than the socialist/liberal democrat one does.

Conservatism asks that you work to excel in your own right. You'll make more money and have more money and benefits under this than asking for a government handout/guarantee.

The democrat agenda traps people. They get comfy with the check coming in and forget how to be better.

But...some people aren't born to excel. I guess that's why they need to tax/steal from those that are productive to make their personal dreams come true.

Get real....how many people have all the luxuries but won't write a check for a copay or office visit to a doctor? I mean, you'll pay $100/month for cable or more, but won't spend a few hundred bucks a year on healthcare? You'll spend $35K on a car but won't spend the same money on healthcare?

Give me a break.

Posted by: MakeUsProud | September 14, 2008 1:07 PM

main stream media dropping the ball..why so much coverage on palin and none on biden..what the heck is going on..i see guliani but no clinton or kerry..what is going on.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:06 PM

It's unbelievable that Godwin's law still applies -- "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Nice job there, James, proving that Americans can never rise above hyperbolic, inciteful, hateful speech when discussing politics. Throwing Hitler into the same discussion as a black man running for president is the most moronic thing I've ever seen. There is nothing comparative to it.

Posted by: Jay | September 14, 2008 1:05 PM

Mccain is one of, if not the most liberal republicans around, this whole "same as bush" crap is just that, it's an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the american public and hopefully catch people who do not have the inclination to think for themselves, parrot it all over the place. DON'T BE USED think everything through, don't parrot what either campaign says.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:05 PM

This good news, but not good enough. McCain is trying to lie his way into the White House, and if he succeeds that's what every candidate for the next 20 years will do. If you want any chance for an somewhat honest government, give as much as you can afford to the Obama campaign. Go to https://donate.barackobama.com/

Posted by: Al Globus | September 14, 2008 1:04 PM

You see Right Wing ppl...this just proves tht there is more of us "Liberals" than there are of YOU.....YOUR PPL HAVE HAD THIS PRESIDENCY FOR 8 YRS AND OUR CTRY IS WORSE OFF, DISLIKED, BAD ECONOMY, AND YOU SIT BACK AND BTCH IF WE QUESTION THE INCOMPETENCE OF YOUR VP AND YOU RANT AND RAVE.....BUT ALL THAT SAYS IS YOU PPL ARE SELFISH AND DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OTHERS....YOU SIT IN CHURCH ON SUNDAY BUT YOU DAMN SURE DON'T TREAT PPL W/RESPECT OR GODS WAY!!! YOU PREACH THE BIBLE, YET YOU CHEAT, HAVE INCEST IN YOUR CHURCHES, AND STEAL, BUT YET THESE ARE YOUR VALUES YOU SCREAM!!!

WELL, ENOUGH.....WE (LIBERALS) ARE SICK OF IT AND YOU AND LET ME TELL YOU 2.5 MILLION TOGETHER IS A HELLUVA LOT STRONGER THAN 200 LOBBYISTS AND WAY MORE POWERFUL!!!

CHANGE IS COMING TO WASHINGTON!!

OBAMA/BIDEN!!!

Posted by: Hheeaatt | September 14, 2008 1:04 PM


Words to Democrats, Republicans and Independents and other good folks contemplating voting for McCain.

Put your little prejudices aside and think real hard and deep if you are really comfortable with the last 8 years and want to continue with the same for the next 4-8 years.

The same people who brought us Bush/Chaney are the same behind McCain down to his webmaster!

Be honest to yourself and don't for one minute think that the same right wing nuts that have run circle around Bush/Chaney and usurp the presidency will suddenly turn new leaf and not do the same to a 73 year old man and a naive 44 year old woman?

You are either comfortable with all the failures with this administration of which John McCain is at least 90% part of for over 30years or use good judgment and vote for a ticket that offers a complete break from the old ways of doing things in Washington.

The choice is yours and you just can't have it both ways!

Posted by: M Willey | September 14, 2008 1:01 PM

The Washington Obama Company, doing all it can to foster socialism in this great country.

Posted by: Salinas57 | September 14, 2008 1:00 PM

So, Obama talks how the economy sucks...but there are enough suckers to pony up $66 million in August...and by the way, the front of opinion in today's Post contains a story about the economy...and it's not tanking, and another piece of evidence, Obama's fundraising. Do the poor contribute to political campaigns? Only if their Obama suckers!

Posted by: Howard | September 14, 2008 12:57 PM

I think the surge in democrat giving is clearly due to people listening to the speeches that Obama gives and upon hearing the phrases "change" and "no more politics as usual" enough times is completely convinced (some call this brainwashing) believing that is what he actually stands for, regardless of voting record, or character. Reminds me of Hitler talking about ensuring a strong people and a strong nation. It received the same response for the same reason.

Posted by: James Van Daele | September 14, 2008 12:56 PM

i find the media bias the worst in the years i have been following politics..i have seen nothing but mccain,palin,every other republican for mccain you know..all i have seen is obama..were is the coverage on biden,kerry, hillary clinton has been stumping for obama and not one bit of her speeches or any other democrats. where is the media on the proven lies by the mccain campaign..were is the coverage of all the mccain lobbists and special intrests..more proven lies by mccain.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:54 PM

Coming early 2009:
McCain and Palin
on
Dancing with the Stars

Posted by: B. Orin | September 14, 2008 12:53 PM

November 2nd was the 2004 election, we're in 2008, it's November 4th.

It's not good to stuck in 11/2/04, that was a very disturbing day.

Posted by: Bruce | September 14, 2008 12:52 PM

Uhh, holy f*ck. That's enough money to build six Bugatti Veyrons.

I thought Bill Clinton was an incredible fundraiser, this guy is unnaturally good at it XD

This will definitely be an interesting two months... MoveOn and the Swift Boat gang are about to get their hands dirty.

Posted by: Brian | September 14, 2008 12:51 PM

I agree with one of the previous comments regarding cell phone use. I am in my thirties and the majority of the people that I know in my age range and younger use cell phones exclusively.

The polling data used to drive so many news stories is not going to accurate reflect the advantage Obama will have on Nov. 2nd.

Posted by: Matt M | September 14, 2008 12:48 PM

I was one of those who donated after Obama's acceptance speech. Obama represents the best hope for true change in the United States. McCain and his Republican Party are for the rich--not for the middle class like me.

Posted by: Joan from Virginia | September 14, 2008 12:48 PM

I think, a lot of this surge in donations for Obama has to do with Palin. She's convinced most people ( outside of the far-right members of the Republican party ), that they need to stand up and be counted; That we cannot go back to the failed policies and attitudes of the 1950s.

Posted by: wolf | September 14, 2008 12:47 PM

I am very worried about how Senator McCain is dealing with post traumatic stress syndrome and chronic pain he must be suffering from his war injuries.

This leads to poor decision making and emotional out bursts

I will the journalist would find out more about this.

Posted by: Tina | September 14, 2008 12:42 PM

Oops! not the voter suppression story link.
This is the correct one:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/158392/output/print

Posted by: mtobias | September 14, 2008 12:41 PM

What the MSM has under reported is Obama's ground game and his ability to register first time voters.The polls you see are not accurate do to the tremendous increase in cell phone use.As Bill Clinton said ,he should win handily.I do hope the Reugnakins continue to feel confident,as Obama keeps registering voters and addressing the issue of the economy.When you are losing your home lipstick can't fix that.

Posted by: joe marcucilli | September 14, 2008 12:40 PM

Of course the dirty politics of voter suppression by the GOP (Grand Oil Party) will nullify some of the gains by Obama:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/14/obama_raised_66_million_in_aug.html

Posted by: mtobias | September 14, 2008 12:38 PM

Even though Obama is trying to stay true to his message of bringing together republicans, democrats, and independents, I think he and his campaign need to start focusing on the radical conservative agenda that has gotten its hooks into John McCain. Unless you are are a speaking-in-tongues, end-times, anti-evolution evangelical who happens to have 3 million or more in the bank, there is no reason to think that a McCain/Palin candidacy would be good for you or your country.

Posted by: DFG | September 14, 2008 12:38 PM

Breaking news on http://www.slander08.com

Posted by: Sam Waterford | September 14, 2008 12:34 PM

the fascist Chenny and his pupet bush are laughing hard today. Two new puppets are comming to town, John and Sarah.

Biden said it himself yesterday, Obama would be better off with Hillary Clinton, to win.

It is now obvious the republicans have out smarted everyone,
with a woman that calls herself a pitbull with lip stick!!!!

There is only one chance to win and that is Biden must step down and Hillary must be VP
Barack you let your stupid ego lose this election because you would not have Hillary on as VP.

I have sent you $300 and bought your bumper stickers.

PUT HILLARY AS VP NOW!! DAMN IT
you needed Hillary and the"" History of a woman"" on the ticket to win.

Instead, you failed to see the importance of this,
it is so evident now,

The republicans who were such losers, you are now helping them to win.

But now I see that you will lose because you failed to see the obvious,


Posted by: David70 | September 14, 2008 12:33 PM

This is important because it shows that Obama has a much deeper well of support than McCain. The donors are also the people who will work to get Obama elected.

Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008 12:27 PM

Biden said it himself yesterday, Obama would be better off with Hillary Clinton, to win.

It is now obvious the republicans have out smarted everyone,
with a woman that calls herself a pitbull with lip stick!!!!

There is only one chance to win and that is Biden must step down and Hillary must be VP
Barack you let your stupid ego lose this election because you would not have Hillary on as VP.

I have sent you $300 and bought your bumper stickers.

PUT HILLARY AS VP NOW!! DAMN IT
you needed Hillary and the"" History of a woman"" on the ticket to win.

Instead, you failed to see the importance of this,
it is so evident now,

The republicans who were such losers, you are now helping them to win.

But now I see that you will lose because you failed to see the obvious,

Posted by: David70 | September 14, 2008 12:25 PM

Just think, 500,000 new donors. If we could get each one of those new donors to go to http://www.boppoll.com and bop McCain 10 times, that would be 5,000,000 new bops. Team Obama. Lets show Team McCain how it is done! Remember, 10 people bopping at the same time can add about 600 bops per minute.

Posted by: mgultch | September 14, 2008 12:05 PM

THE PALIN AFFAIR ACCUSATION PALIN CHEATED ON HER HUSBAND?
http://www.theveep.com

THE PALIN DUI?
http://www.duihelpguide.com

Levi Johnson The self Proclaimed Redneck and the Stud who got Sarah Palins Daughter Pregnant.
http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:04 PM

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