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The Union Radio interview with John McCain on issues of interest to Hispanics was conducted in English and only later translated into Spanish for listeners. The audio above is of the English-only interview.

Updated 6:54 p.m.
By Glenn Kessler and Ed O'Keefe
Republican presidential nominee John McCain suggested this week that he would continue President Bush's policy of having cool relations with the government of Spain, despite having made starkly contrasting statements to the Spanish press earlier this year saying he looked forward to normalized relations with the NATO ally.

In comments that have caused a kerfuffle in Spain, McCain seemed to lump Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Zapatero in the same category as the anti-American leaders of Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba. McCain's remarks came during in an English-language interview with Radio Caracol WSUA 1260AM in Miami, part of the Spanish-language radio group Union Radio, conducted Tuesday.

President Bush has never forgiven Zapatero for pulling troops out of Iraq shortly after his victory in 2004. Though the Spanish prime minister has tried repeatedly to rebuild relations and win an invitation to visit Washington, Bush has yet to hold a formal bilateral meeting with him.

Zapatero is a center-left politician, but McCain has suggested that as president he would seek to repair relations that have been badly frayed in Europe during Bush's tenure. In an early-April interview with a reporter from Spanish newspaper El Pais, McCain said, "This is the moment to leave behind discrepancies with Spain."

He added: "I would like for [President Zapatero] to visit the United States. I am very interested not only in normalizing relations with Spain but in obtaining good and productive relations with the goal of addressing many issues and challenges that we have to confront together."

The reporter for the Miami radio station seemed surprised that McCain, after discussing anti-American antagonists in Latin South America, acted so coolly to the idea of meeting with Zapatero.

"I would be willing to meet with those leaders who are friends and want to work with us in a cooperative fashion," McCain said, throwing in words of praise for the Mexican government.

The reporter asked a second time: "Would that invitation be extended to the Zapatero government?"

McCain repeated his talking point: "I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America."

The reporter pressed again, and McCain replied: "I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not."

At this point, the reporter sought to clarify that McCain was not mixing up South America with Europe.

"I'm talking about the president of Spain," she noted.

Given this fourth opportunity to extend an olive branch, McCain stuck to his guns: "I'm willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom and I will stand up to those who are not."

That McCain would lump Zapatero in with such Latin American bad guys as Venezuela's Hugo Chavez comes as a surprise, because Zapatero and Juan Carlos, the King of Spain, were the protagonists in one of the most public anti-Chavez moments in the Spanish-speaking world.

At an Ibero-American summit meeting earlier this year in Chile, Chavez was complaining about Zapatero's conservative predecessor, Jose Maria Aznar, who was close to Bush and sent Spanish troops to Iraq. Zapatero challenged him in a polite and gentlemanly manner, but Chavez kept at it, until the exasperated king jumped in and said to Chavez ,"Why don't you just shut up?"

The confrontation resulted in mega-headlines around the Spanish-speaking world and pitted Chavez, Castro and others against the Spaniards.

So, was McCain purposely trying to diss the Spanish leader? Questions about whether McCain forgot which country Zapatero leads, got confused about Spain's geographic relationship to Latin America, or confused Zapatero with the Zapatista rebels from Mexico have exploded on blogs since reports of the interview first surfaced.

McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann said McCain's answer was intentional.

"The questioner asked several times about Senator McCain's willingness to meet Zapatero (and id'd him in the question so there is no doubt Senator McCain knew exactly to whom the question referred). Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview," he said in an e-mail.

In the El Pais interview, McCain had also said, according to an English translation of the Spanish translation of his remarks (which is admittedly not exact), "We have to understand that there are things that happen during election campaigns, things that are said, decisions that are made in certain political circumstances, and we have to understand also that there can be coincidences and discrepancies."

He added: "But I think this is the moment to leave behind those things... and to look forward with the perspective that we have many more values and goals that unite us than differences that divide us."

And also: "I believe it is to our benefit, that of the United States, as well as to the benefit of the government and the people of Spain, to continue the level of close relations that we have maintained for many years."

Asked to explain McCain's apparent shift in tone and position since April, Scheunemann gave almost no ground.

"In this week's interview, Senator McCain did not rule in or rule out a White House meeting with President Zapatero, a NATO ally," he said in an e-mail. "If elected, he will meet with a wide range of allies in a wide variety of venues but is not going to spell out scheduling and meeting location specifics in advance. He also is not going to make reckless promises to meet America's adversaries. It's called keeping your options open, unlike Senator Obama, who has publicly committed to meeting some of the world's worst dictators unconditionally in his first year in office."

Neither Obama nor Biden took up the issue of McCain's remarks about Zapatero Thursday. But Tony Blinken, a longtime foreign policy aide to Sen. Joe Biden who is now on his campaign staff, said in a phone call on Thursday evening that it was unfortunate that McCain would "preemptively poison the well" with a NATO ally.

Worse still, Blinken said, would be if the McCain campaign were adopting a new, hardline policy toward Spain just to cover up a gaffe.

Radio Caracol is part of the Union Radio station group that is owned by the Spanish media conglomerate Groupo Prisa, which also owns El Pais.

"The reason we asked the question about Spain is that we're owned by this big company in Spain. They wanted us to ask that question in the interview," explained Radio Caracol news director Madelin Prendes, reached by telephone this morning.

Yoly Cuello, the reporter who interviewed McCain, said she repeatedly asked McCain about Spain because "he didn't want to answer my question."

"I think he was just trying not to answer the question, I think he understood" who Zaptero is and where he's from, Cuello said. She conducted the phone interview on Tuesday when McCain was campaigning in Miami and it aired Wednesday on Union Radio's 74 Spanish-language radio affiliates nationwide and on its stations in Colombia, Mexico and Spain.

Cuello said she cannot believe the attention her interview has earned, noting that she's heard almost nothing about it from her listeners in Miami.

"People here are worried about lots of things, the economy, immigration. Not about Spain."

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I'm sorry. Senator Mc Cain meant clearly that he was elected as President of USA, he will have good relationship with any leader who wants to work with USA and he will stand up to those that do not.
At the present time, Zapatero retired his troops for the stake of his country. It's Bush affairs. In the future, if he show himself a friend towards Mc Cain, then he will be invited. of course.

Answering by yes or no doesn't mean necessary rejecting.

Posted by: Elisabeth | September 24, 2008 12:48 PM


Spain is the 8th largest world economy, the sixth largest world investor, the first or second investor in Latin America ( depending on the country) and the fourth largest investor in the US ( all according to OCDE statistics). Furthermore, Spain has played a major role in world history and also in US history. It was Spain, not France, the country which provided more material help to the American insurgents against the British ( an independent US reciprocated by appropiating most of the remaining Spanish territory in North American and by declaring an illegal was against Spain over Cuba- remember the Maine?). Spain is also a major contributor to stability operations from Libanon to Afghanistan ( alongside the US) and it has an active diplomacy not only in Europe and Latin America, but also in the Mediterranean, the Middle East and Subsaharan Africa. Its language and culture are shared by more than 400 million people around the world.....and a candidate for leading the US does not know where Spain is? Oh dear¡

And to Ninch: defending ETA makes you a moral accessory to crime. ETA has killed more than a thousand innocent people by using terrorism as its only instrument. For your knowledge, being a Basque nationalist is not a crime in Spain. The Basque nationalistd have been governing the Basque autonoums region for the last 25 years. The Basques enjoy in Spain the largest degree of autonomy for a minority in any Western democracy. And, by the way, not all Basques are nationalists. Actually, the Basque country is split evenly between nationalists and the so called constitutionalists. Only 11% of Basques have voted for an independent Basque country.

Finally, Spain has been fighting agaist terrorism for the last 40 years without any help from the US. Should we diss the US for that?. Should we expel the US military ( the strategic US bases of Moron and Rota)for that reason?

Posted by: lfmontes | September 20, 2008 3:53 PM

Posted by: spaniard | September 20, 2008 5:23 AM

This is ridiculous. If you've listened to the transcript it is obvious McCain misheard what the reporter was saying. I am for Obama, but let's not reach at straws like this, it is not our game. At one point the interviewer said something like "We're talking about Europe" and McCain clearly showed he did not understand her by responding "What about me?". There are so many positive ways to win over voters, why resort to distortion? WHo knows, maybe the interview was happening really late, on a bad phone connection or McCain was poorly prepped by his team and assumed he was talking to a Mexican reporter. Lets move on!

Posted by: gObama | September 20, 2008 1:53 AM

Not to worry! Sarah can see Spain from an island in Alaska. She'll take over for John on foreign policy issues like this.

Posted by: Ted in MA (not THAT Ted) | September 20, 2008 12:03 AM

McCain's foreign knowledge is absolutely standard in Washington.

People wonder if McCain thought Al Qaeda was Shia, when he claimed that "everybody knows" they were being trained in Iran.

Three members of the House Intelligence, Committee, including the Chairman, explicitly told Congressional Quarterly in interviews that AQ was Shiite. (2 Rs, 1D).

Also "flummoxed by such basic questions," said the paper's national security correspondent, "were several top counterterrorism officials at the FBI."
http://public.cq.com/public/20061211_homeland.html

The VP candidate of the ruling party got her first passport last year.

Although 75% of Americans were pretty sure they wanted to invade Iraq in 2003, only 13% could find it on a map of the Middle East, according to the National Geographic knowledge survey. Every year, America comes second-last on the 32-country survey, just ahead of Mexico.

It's no wonder, really, that Washington claims you should put interceptors in Poland to stop missiles from Iran. Riiiight.

Posted by: Kevrobb | September 19, 2008 10:39 PM

"Worse still, Blinken said, would be if the McCain campaign were adopting a new, hardline policy toward Spain just to cover up a gaffe."

I think that hits the nail on the head.

Those who are backing the campaign claim that McCain is serious about frostiness towards "socialist" Spain, could you explain his April comments:

"I would like for [President Zapatero] to visit the United States. I am very interested not only in normalizing relations with Spain but in obtaining good and productive relations with the goal of addressing many issues and challenges that we have to confront together. I believe it is to our benefit, that of the United States, as well as to the benefit of the government and the people of Spain, to continue the level of close relations that we have maintained for many years."

There are three explanations for McCain's comments:
One, he's pig-ignorant, Bush-ignorant, Palin-ignorant and is confused about Spain, its govt and maybe even its location.
Two, he's crazy, and really wants to be hostile to Spain.
Or three, he's both ignorant and crazy, and after being caught knowing nothing about Spain, adopted a hostile policy towards the Spanish to back up the threats in the standard "meet with leaders" talking-point he rolled out to fend off the question.

Posted by: OD | September 19, 2008 10:24 PM

Explain Spain to McCain

To parody “The Rain in Spain” from the musical “My Fair Lady” (which was not about Sarah Palin):

: - )


“Explain McCain Spain our ally remains.
You think he’s got it.? Don’t think he’s got it.
And what’s more, John, just where would you find Spain?
Not south of these parts. Go look in Europe.
And does he know Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero
Belongs to NATO. Three cheers for NATO!
The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
You think he’ll get it. By George, he’s like George.”

Posted by: Robert Campbell | September 19, 2008 9:49 PM

what an embarassment McCain is...
I have been to Spain..I know it well..I love the country and the people..and want them on our side!
I think aside from his lack of Social studies skills...and people skills..he is old, tired, forgetful, befuddled...he is not the one I want in charge..\to Spain..lo siento mucho lo que dijo el anciano

Posted by: dutch163 | September 19, 2008 6:54 PM

About the discussion of using President/Prime Minister. Spanish Constitution says:

Art 98.1. The Government shall consist of the President, Vice-Presidents, when appropiate, Ministers and other members as may be created by law.

Is formal title is President of the Government, even if his rol is equal than Prime Minister on other countries.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:33 PM

Bush's (or McCain's) U.S., which represents a mostly war-loving, violent, ignorant, stupidly-fanatically religious and racist idea of a country that delights in using outright lies to engage in unjustified pre-emptive destruction and slaughter of entire cultures, or in massively stealing from taxpayer's money to patch up for stealing by cronies, deserves no respect from modern, truly democratic, equalitarian, just, peaceful, enlightened and civilized countries like Spain.

Posted by: tapiacat.010606 | September 19, 2008 1:36 PM

To Ninch: I´m completely sure if the basque separatiste terrorist group "ETA" was an U.S.A. resident organization, it would´nt exist decades ago. (You can ask about it to sioux , navajo, creeeks etc. people) They´ve cowardly killed about one thousand people since 70'including kids, families in general stores, doctors working in their offices etc. Basque country has an "autonomic" senate and govern and its own economy system. Basque people has the highest life level in Spain. Basque terrorist Killers who have killed hundreds of people are free after a few years inprisonned. Basque separatist who are about 50% of basques, cannot complaint about Zapatero. I,m not a Zapatero supporter but I agree with him and 90% of spaniards when he put our troops out of the ilegal Irak war. I don´t care if Mr. Mc Cain don´t Know where Spain is (in fact I don´t know where Ohio is). I,ve never voted Mr. Zapatero but if U.S.A. President don,t really want to tell with him when he win ellections, please take your troops back to America from Rota and Moron, we actually don,t need empire´s legionaries in our ground. U.S.A. must treat their allies with respect. U.S.A often forget how bad solitude is.

Posted by: Manuel J. Sánchez | September 19, 2008 1:27 PM

Don´t be so cruel on McCain's seniority. I remember it was Pres. George W. Bush in the early days of his first term who quoted Aznar as "president Ansar" and see how good friends they became afterwards. Is it a mere coincidence or a curious foreign affaires strategy?

Posted by: Spaniard | September 19, 2008 11:47 AM

Does anyone besides me think that the reason He repeated himself over and over was because he had no idea who the Spanish Prime Minister was and repeating his line was the safest way to respond?

Posted by: Charles | September 19, 2008 11:30 AM

Hey you, americans? Has anybody told you that we need you as the "world justice" manager?

Do you really think it is your culture and your thoughts the only ones?

Don't you realize that your country is a cancer in the world?

you intervene in all wars where an economic matter is contested because you see the opportunity to spread your political/economic system and power.

Let us alone


American military basis OUT of Spain! we don't want to have anything to do with your massacres.

Posted by: Cli | September 19, 2008 11:00 AM

We Americans must invade this country called Spain. Fortunately it is situated between Mexico and Cuba so it won't be too difficult to bomb it and kill all these Spaniards which are supporting Al Qaeda terrorists. They are just a crowd of ignorant people who don't know anything about the world or the war as good as we know. They're all comunists. I must also point out that they've found a source of crude oil in the center of the Iberian Peninsula so WHY NOT TO TAKE CONTROL OVER THE SPANIARDS IN BEHALF OF OUR VERY RICH AMERICAN CULTURE, OUR DEMOCRACY, OUR KNOWLEDGE AND OUR PROGRESS?

Posted by: Uncle Sam | September 19, 2008 10:46 AM

McCain no se ha equivocado ni de continente, ni de país, ni de persona. Sabe perfectamente quién es el que despreció a la bandera de EEUU no poniéndose de pie a su paso. Sabe quién es el amigo de Chávez, Morales y Castro en Europa. Y sabe perfectamente quien sacó a sus tropas de Irak dejando a los aliados a su suerte.
Y también sabe quien es el que acusa a EEUU de todos los males del mundo. Y sabe de quien no se puede fiar.

Posted by: JO Noville | September 19, 2008 10:34 AM

this is too long.

Posted by: Rosa | September 19, 2008 10:06 AM

Well, He speaks dull. A little defying, no compromise, no ideas, but much of nationalist pride. The Republicans same old story. I think they are creating an anti-USA symbol with Zapatero, who is several things but "anti". Paradox: Zapatero is seen with simpathy in many places for that. We just like USA as a state-of-art free land. We just don't like you McCain-Palin-Bible fanatics and those ignorant-afraid-and-proud-of-this.

A Spaniard.

Posted by: Francisco | September 19, 2008 9:57 AM

GABBA GABBA HEY
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Posted by: Mc Cain an Sarah Palin | September 19, 2008 9:44 AM

and for people out of spain:

There is no prime minister charge in Spain. We have a Presidente, but, for translation, its called prime minister, because in a lot of countries they have a President ( who is more a honorific charge than executive ) and a prime minister and the role of Spanish president is equal to the prime minister of england for example.

Here is the King ( who have no political power ) the elected presidente del gobierno and then the vice minister and ministers.

Posted by: undress | September 19, 2008 9:43 AM

Mc Cain, as W is a total ignorant, mix europe with south america, he has no idea that spain discover america, or that europeans are the foundations of his nation, he think god create americans from mud and speaking english... Its illarious.

Posted by: undress | September 19, 2008 9:30 AM

I live in France, a European country.

From here, we have the feeling that the american government is making war everywhere because he doesn’t know anything about the people of the world outside its borders.

How can you have such power and be so ignorant?…

I believe it’s not really ignorance but also a way of preserving a “way of live” regardless of all the disasters it may provoque (human or ecological)…

But we hope very deeply that something will happen after these elections…

Posted by: Zappa Hero | September 19, 2008 8:16 AM

I guess it just goes to show how similar McCain and Bush are, four more years of McBush=4 more years of 'with us or against us' thinking. The outside world? What's that?
www.theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com

Posted by: Shane | September 19, 2008 8:10 AM

So, Mr Cain doesn't know who is Zapatero. He also ignores everything about informatics, as he himself recognized, and also about economy. Ms Palin supports creacionism, thus, she is completely ignorant on science.
Do you still think that you are going to maintain a possition of global leadership in moral, scientific and economic issues, with these leaders?

Posted by: albert | September 19, 2008 7:26 AM

For the Republican bickering in this thread, I will write short sentences:
I am Spanish
I am not upset
I am just amused.

For the rest:
Well, this is an evidence of what the Palin ticket means. I don't think the old man is ga-ga, I think that it's not his ticket anymore.

He has given away his freshness, his independence, his new way (for the Republicans voters, I mean) in exchange to secure the Presidency from the Republican aparatik ... That's the reason why I think, from a very partisan point of view, that the whole Obama-Clinton brouhaha it's just stupid ....

Posted by: Odysseus the Ithacan | September 19, 2008 7:21 AM

I am one of those thousands of Spaniards who listened the interview in the most important Spanish radiostation (Cadena Ser). After the explanations of candidate McCain, I thought there where just to options: that the reporter was from an American Radio, so McCain's people didn't give him a lesson about what is Spain, where is located, etc... and he had to give a generic answer (for 4 times); or what would be even worst, that McCain policy is that the 8th world economy and an important strategic country in Europe, NATO, and Mediterranean countries, can be ignored by USA administration...

I hope you american citizens choose right. World will be proud of you.

(PS: apologize for my spelling)

Posted by: Manuel | September 19, 2008 7:14 AM

Zapatero? Is that some kind of zapatista in Mexico or what?

100% republican idiocy.

Posted by: xab | September 19, 2008 6:55 AM

I am sorry for Mr McCain. Spanish Prime Minister Zapatero will not have time to receive a simple ex-candidate in Madrid.

Posted by: Marco | September 19, 2008 6:44 AM

Nice try...Spin it as you will, but your beloved candidate has shown his true colours. As some of the comments from the Republican side have pointed out, admit that he made a mistake and move on. Otherwise it will continue to be a very easy swipe to re-enforce the fact that the Republicans (and Democrats for that matter) have no idea what lies beyond their borders and still have maps that read, "There be dragons over there!"

If you do insist on spinning, how do you fit the word 'hemisphere' into your wash?

http://troyshouse.blogspot.com

Posted by: Troy | September 19, 2008 6:27 AM

McCain had no clue. He heard Zapatero and did not connect with Spain. He is a moron. Another moron.

Posted by: Luis | September 19, 2008 5:43 AM

The most striking quote from McCain is in paragraphs 4 and 5:

In an early-April interview with a reporter from Spanish newspaper El Pais, McCain said, "This is the moment to leave behind discrepancies with Spain."

He added: "I would like for [President Zapatero] to visit the United States. I am very interested not only in normalizing relations with Spain but in obtaining good and productive relations with the goal of addressing many issues and challenges that we have to confront together."

Do you notice anything odd about that quote? Does it sound like something a native English speaker would say? For instance, does the phrase, "discrepancies with Spain" sound like something McCain would say?

Well, it turns out that he actually did not say that. If you read about 15 paragraphs further down in the Wash. Post article, you'll find an admission that should have been in paragraph 4. Namely, it turns out that the "quote" of McCain from the El Pais interview was actually not quite a quote after all. It was:

"...an English translation of the Spanish translation of his remarks (which is admittedly not exact)."

Obviously, most readers of the Wash. Post article will not have realized that that disclaimer, 15 paragraphs later, applied to the earlier "quote" of McCain. That's called deceptive journalism. Unfortunately, it is what passes for news reporting at leading liberal papers like the Washington Post and the New York Times these days. The only good thing you can say about it is that it is not as bad as the (often amazingly vicious) lies that Team Obama is spreading via the liberal blog sites, like DailyKos and AmericaBlog.

What can you say about a newspaper which quotes an English translation of a Spanish translation of an English interview, instead of actually bothering to get a real transcript, AND doesn't bother to admit that is what they did until 15 paragraphs later, when most readers have surely moved on the the next article, AND words the belated disclaimer in a way that does not make it at all obvious that it applies to the earlier quote? Should you trust such a rag?

Dave

Posted by: Dave Burton | September 19, 2008 5:16 AM

Why isn't this story on the front page?

McCain throws one of our allies in our fight against the terrorists who struck us on 9/11, one of the allies who is fighting alongside our military in Afghanistan and have paid with their lives under his "straight talk" bus because he made a gaffe?

Outrage. Spare me your fake outrage about lipstick on pigs or any of the other nonsense the Karl Rove minions on his campaign staff thinks can distract us. These people are insane. Admit he made a mistake or this will be pounded on everyday.

Posted by: bill from OH | September 19, 2008 4:04 AM

To rpatoh, who said: "I don't get it. Mccain said: I'm willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom and I will stand up to those who are not.

Is it assumed Zapatero doesn't share these priciples or philosophy?"

In fact, it doesn't. Spain ACTUALLY RESPECTS Human Rights: Sentences no prisoner to death penalty, has no concentration camps, it's president is elected democratically -not by a judicial fiasco-, has no weapons of mass destruction (no nukes, not even cluster bombs) and does not support anymore invading foreign countries pretending they have such weapons. In fact, the cooling of diplomatic relations between US and Spain obbeys to this last statement.

Cheers!

Posted by: Pau | September 19, 2008 3:23 AM

The White House is for white people... Isn't it? Even if the white guy is a senile idiot... What a conundrum!

Posted by: Pau | September 19, 2008 3:08 AM

As a Spaniard I have to admit being confused with this interview. Either McCain mixed Spain with Bolivia or Venezuela, in which case one should seriously consider whether he is fit to be in the Office (is not like his running mate will be of much help when it comes to international affairs). Alternatively, McCain meant what he said which is in line with Bush’s current policy towards Spain. If this is the case, it shows McCain does not want to depart from Bush´s strategy of bullying countries that are (despite some differences) natural allies (i.e. democracies, EU members, Nato allies…). Even if one agrees with Bush’s decision to frozen relations with Spain after pulling out of Irak, the question is whether this strategy has paid off or whether the new president should think about how to improve US’s “popularity” in the international arena (not much better than Iran´s or China´s). Both candidates have promised change. In this interview McCain shows he is either not fit to change things or not willing to do so.

Posted by: Alvaro | September 19, 2008 3:07 AM

Thank you for this article. I read about it on blogs last night and was hoping it would receive more attention.

McCain owes Zapatero and the people of Spain an apology. To think he would try to cover his gaffe by saying he knew what he was saying is appalling and embarrassing!

Since McCain won't do it I will:

Prime Minister Zapatero and the citizens of Spain,
I apologize for Senator McCain's ignorance and inability to stand accountable for his remarks. He is senile. The only reason he is a candidate is because Americans feel bad for him. Every time he talks about his days as a POW (which I'm sure you have heard) we feel we must humor him in his run for President. No one really thought he would actually stand a chance of being elected. If he is, God help us all.

Posted by: idealistic | September 19, 2008 2:33 AM

donmac: "So what if he insulted the Spainish Prime Minister. Spain is nothing but a bunch of cowards as they demonstrated a few years ago by capitulating to terrorist blackmail after they bombed a train!

To hell with Spain. They offer us nothing but lip service and are a haven for muslim extremists! ADIOS MUCHACHOS!"

Seriously? This is what you think? I believe you should get informed before you make comments like these... Probably, according to your clear views, American people should just keep quite and leave the country on the hands of a bunch of rich morons...
In 2004, right before the elections, thousands of Spaniards went out to the streets and protest against the lies the right-wing government told about the train bombings...Has any American done something like that after all the lies the Bush administration has told? Fortunately, some people have done that. Clearly, donmac, you're not one of them.

Posted by: me | September 19, 2008 12:45 AM

Don't you realize that having such a candidate for president you are making a fool of youserlf??

If you are chosing McCain cause you think is the best, then, i don't want to know how the rest of your politicians are...
And the people behind him??

Aren't you able to listen instead of sending the whole Spain to hell???

No comment

Posted by: Pableras | September 19, 2008 12:22 AM

Spain is a democracy. It is a member of NATO and has troops in Afghanistan engaged in the War on terror. In January 2010, Spain will take over the Presidency of the European Union, the world's largest economy (approx. one third of the world's GDP) But to Mr. McCain, these things don't matter. He is not sure that the President of Spain is good enough for the White House. I am not Spanish, but I am a citizen of the European Union. It is an insult to the 500 million citizens of the EU that Mr. McCain is treating the democratically elected leader of a major European country with such disdain. Can you imagine how (rightfully) outraged America would be if Gordon Brown said he wasn't sure he would want to have the President of the United States visit him at No.10 Downing Street? Or if Nicolas Sarkozy refused to host the American President at the Elysee Palace? Mr. McCain is damaging U.S.-Europe relations before he he's even elected. How can the West win the war on terror if the bond between America and Europe is constantly being weakened by the arrogance of American leaders? By the way, if Mr. McCain is elected, he will be inaugurated in January 2009. That same month, the Czech Republic will take over the presidency of the EU. Unfortunately, Mr. McCain, who brags about his foreign policy experience, is not aware that the Czech Republic even exists: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/23/AR2008072300704.html
In his controversial radio interview, Mr. McCain mocks Mr. Obama for never traveling South of the U.S.-Mexico border. Does Mr. McCain really want to pull at that thread? When Ms. Palin didn't even have a passport until last year?

Posted by: Aymeric | September 19, 2008 12:05 AM

OMG, he's an idiot. The Republicans are taking this whole election for a joke. How in the world did he become the nominee and he doesn't even know who America's NATO allies are?

Posted by: jaret | September 18, 2008 11:56 PM

So what if he insulted the Spainish Prime Minister. Spain is nothing but a bunch of cowards as they demonstrated a few years ago by capitulating to terrorist blackmail after they bombed a train!

To hell with Spain. They offer us nothing but lip service and are a haven for muslim extremists! ADIOS MUCHACHOS!

Posted by: donmac | September 18, 2008 11:51 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:39 PM

"Like Spain has Osama bin Laden to rule it?"

Wtf???!!!

I think you are even "confused" as your "Commander in Chief", if possible... :)

We have a president called J.L. Rodríguez Zapatero, the one we've chosen, unlike you where Bush won by cheating...

Btw, have you seen this??
“Hacking Sarah Palin’s email was easy” says the attacker
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1939

Maybe she should learn how to use secure email, just in case...

Pa mear y no echar gota!

Posted by: Pableras | September 18, 2008 11:15 PM

This is really disturbing, knowing that you guys ( americans, have to choose between this "old man" and someone who knows how to talk, and do politics...but then you have a problem your Mid west america, that wont get Obama into the white house....but this dude is off his mind.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:05 PM

palin is hot. and if she can see spain from alaska, i believe her.

Posted by: wascawy wabit | September 18, 2008 10:46 PM

>>Posted by: Pableras | September 18, 2008 9:45 PM

Hi you all!
I'm Spanish and I can't do nothing but laugh about Mr. McCain, your candidate for world leader...The world and the US deserve someone with something inside his head to rule it...

Like Spain has Osama bin Laden to rule it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:39 PM

Dear Spain
Please forgive McCain for being a complete idiot.He has no idea what he is saying.He is losing his mind.

Posted by: Julio | September 18, 2008 10:29 PM

Aren't we getting a little bit tired of having heads of state who can't keep things like this straight? It's not just because he's old - Henry Kissinger is a lot older and his marbles are all still up there. Or that he's a Republican - Richard Lugar wouldn't make that kind of mistake. So what is it?
I think it's that his brain isn't wired to comprehend the minutiae of foreign affairs. Details like these simply don't stick up there. No sin for the ordinary you and me, but keeping in mind who's a NATO ally and who's not is the sort of little thing we expect (normal) presidents to be able to do.
Bill Clinton wouldn't have made that kind of mistake either, for what it's worth.

Posted by: havener938 | September 18, 2008 10:28 PM

worriednonpartisan, you forget that polls showed over 90% Spaniards disagreed with their government's support of the Irak war. The fact that the government grossly mismanaged (some would say they lied) the situation following the 2004 terror attacks in Madrid days before the elections didn't help the case of their leader. Saying that Spain "gave up" to terrorism is frankly insulting, especially for a country that's been suffering it internally for over 40 years.

Posted by: Riviera | September 18, 2008 10:14 PM

AS GOOD IS HIS FOREIGN POLICY SO GOOD IS HIS GEOGRAPHY, NOT TO MENTION MANY OTHER RLOOPERS AND LACK OF REALITY. HE IS A REAL IDIOT FOR IDIOTS WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE HIM.

Posted by: Dick | September 18, 2008 10:08 PM

I listened to that interview and it was disturbing. Not only did he sound confused, it sounds like he can't hear. This is going to sound agist, but he sounded like a confused old man. The reporter said, in rapid, Spanish accented English, "What about Europe, I'm talking about the President of Spain." McCain responds "What about me?" It's like he thought she said "What about you, the President McCain?" So, he misunderstood - what's the bid deal? Whey doesn't he just say - hey, I was confused, I didn't really understand what she was saying. He'd rather provoke a NATO ally? Good grief!

Posted by: Sarah | September 18, 2008 10:07 PM

I do not see what the big deal is. Spain gave up when they suffered terrorist attacks and some people feel giving into terrorist tactics only gives power to that enemy. And so now McCain is being a politician, vaque one time, making nice the next. Give me a break, Obama and McCain will both do and say what ever it takes to get elected. Spain is not a major concern, the government is selling us to China, and the two parties are trying to buy their candidate into the Executive.

Posted by: worriednonpartisan | September 18, 2008 9:53 PM

No offense was intended and we apologize for grampus getting a little confused. Hell sometimes he can't remember how many homes he owns, and you expect him to to know where in Mexico Spain is located? Say did you know he was a POW and....................

Posted by: garage | September 18, 2008 9:49 PM

Hi you all!
I'm Spanish and I can't do nothing but laugh about Mr. McCain, your candidate for world leader.

Don't you have anyone else with a bit more of common sense and global culture in the Republican party?? I can't believe it!

Is it so hard to say: "I'll meet whoever deserves it and have something to say"?

The world and the US deserve someone with something inside his head to rule it. Someone who cares about the people and not about the money.

I know it's hard to say but if McCain wins we'd have to think once more that US citizens are a bit stupid. I know they are not and they must show it now!!

Saludos desde España.

Posted by: Pableras | September 18, 2008 9:45 PM

It only makes sense that McCain would refuse to meet with Zapatero. Palin has idenfied Spain as belonging to the "pentagram of evil" which expands the axis of evil to include Spain and Vermont.

Posted by: renu1 | September 18, 2008 9:23 PM

Anyone who has had a close family member with alzheimers (or any of the related forms of dementia that often afflict older people) recognize (usually in retrospect) the subtle changes that occur when these conditions begin to take hold. I'm seriously wondering if McCain's mental faculties are in the early stages of deteriorating, and we are facing the prospect of electing a President who might be impaired, but not enough to make a definitive diagnosis without precipitating some sort of Constitutional Crisis.

We can only hope that if he wins, he picks a first-rate Cabinet.

Posted by: ted in pdx | September 18, 2008 9:14 PM

I don't get it. Mccain said "I'm willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom and I will stand up to those who are not." Is it assumed Zapatero doesn't share these priciples or philosophy?

Posted by: rpatoh | September 18, 2008 9:00 PM

"Sounds like this was a McCain 'deer in the headlights' moment." ----If only Sarah had been there, she could have shot it, dressed it, ate it, mounted it, and took a picture for the 6 pm news----She just can't talk about it----No News Media for me---THEY'RE BADDDDDDDDDDDD......

Posted by: benighse | September 18, 2008 8:44 PM

QUIT PICKIN ON THE SENILE OL' COOT----DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S IMPOLITE TO INSULT YOUR ELDERS.....IT'S THE NEXT REPUBLICAN COMMANDMENT, RIGHT AFTER THE FAMILY VALUES ONE ON THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE KIDS AT 17, HUSBAND OPTIONAL.

Posted by: benighse | September 18, 2008 8:40 PM

One more for the pile. One would think that if one were going to repair our foreign relationships one would have a clear understanding of who runs which country. I read this story and just laughed.

Posted by: fortheclueless | September 18, 2008 8:32 PM

Whoopsie-daisy. That's quite a mistake to make against one of our allies.

Oh well. On thing is for sure, McCain's supporters are saying, "Hell yeah!"

They will try to turn this brain burp into a moment of foreign policy brilliance.

Posted by: blip | September 18, 2008 8:27 PM

Sounds like this was a McCain deer in the headlights moment. Good thing the reporter didn't follow up with a question about his opinion of the Bush doctrine.

Posted by: Chip_M | September 18, 2008 8:27 PM

I response to "CommonSense" comment (at 6:46 pm), by application of a bit of "common sense" you might understand that the ongoing action in Afgahanistan is by no means one that would invoke the reciprocal defense obligations of the NATO members (the operative word being "defense"). If one were to apply your standard, all of the NATO nations would have been obligated to jump into the UK-Argentina Falkland Islands conflict (which they did not - but come to think of it, that particularly conflict was much closer to a "defense" action than the ongoing Afghanistan operations. Moreover, by your standards, the only nations that are our allies are those that agree with us (U.S.) in all respects. This is a rather ludicrous (and unrealistic) position, and not one that we would want to be applied against us (U.S.) either.

Posted by: dbl | September 18, 2008 8:13 PM

What a pendejo!!!!

Posted by: Mary | September 18, 2008 8:02 PM

YOU BIG DUMMY!

Posted by: Fred sanford | September 18, 2008 8:00 PM

Ignorance, arrogance, stubbornness, quick temper, refusal to admit error, out of touch...and that's our current prez. For McCain add 25 years of trumpeting the failed ideology of the Republican Party ........ until last week.

No More Years!

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 18, 2008 7:56 PM

This makes me hate the geezer even more. I love Spain!

Posted by: Isaac | September 18, 2008 7:49 PM

So the curved-talk express has some difficulty evading reporters. That shouldn't be new, that's just McCain!

Posted by: Aston | September 18, 2008 7:46 PM

Wow. I question McCain's ability to function effectively as a Senator, let alone as a president. He's the weakest candidate since Bob Dole.

Posted by: Ron Sampson | September 18, 2008 7:43 PM

McCain can't send an e-mail nor uses computers.
So, his croneys defend him with the usual POW card "He's suffered terrible damage so he can't type".
BUT he has sure carved peeks and pokes onto that lectern-microphone speech table with his finger as he emphasizes his lies.
So he can't poke a telephone either?
How come then "He invented the Blackberry?

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 18, 2008 7:18 PM

This just in:

McCain backpedals:

"In no way did I mean to offend or demean our ally, Spain, for pulling troops out of Iraq. Rather, I meant to demean them for being so close to our ally, France."

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 18, 2008 7:18 PM

To Spain, and the rest of the world offended by the temper tantrums of McCain, Bush, Et Al:

Please don't hold it against us. Not all of us voted for the tantrum-throwers.

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 18, 2008 7:11 PM

McCain KNOWS what Spain is and where, but he did not KNOW, during this one more SENIOR MOMENT, who Zapatero was, and so he shifted into neutral to protect his rear end from crashing.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 18, 2008 7:10 PM

This just in:

McCain has agreed to unconditionally insult one nation per week.

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 18, 2008 7:08 PM


To those who feels that Spain deserves an apology, I only WISH that McCain would say: "Sure, you'll get an apology -------
when HELL FREEZES OVER!!!!"

Posted by: joefrat | September 18, 2008 7:07 PM

Rush Limbaugh, another Bush/Cheny/McCain croney said "Let the stupid, incompetent Mexicans do those jobs".
It's well known that 'birds of a feather flock together'. Rush Limbauch is indeed a high-scool dropout who flunked everything in school and now has a job as a mouth-piece in a radio station. He also qualifies as one with lipstick.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 18, 2008 7:06 PM

While one must credit McCain with knowing who Zapatero is and where Spain is, one still must be concerned with his apparent pigheadedness in face of being asked to clarify his answer. It speaks directly to his character and his temper. Given that Palin could well complete his first term, concern is only heightened. Please consider Senator Hagel's comments.

Posted by: Everyman | September 18, 2008 7:02 PM

McCains position?
Sarah Palin is McCain's cane.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 18, 2008 6:59 PM

Dear Senator, I am Spanish as already knows Spain pertaining to Europe and also its discoverers(America). Like citizen, I transmit my deeper rejection by its manifestations related to our president (nonprime minister) Jose Luis Rodriquez Zapatero because we felt all insulted. We Spaniard did not allow that an aspiring to president of the USA despises our democratically chosen president (the same one cannot be said for Bush). Like Spanish citizen I request Mr. Mccain for public apologizes.

Posted by: YoGroucho | September 18, 2008 6:59 PM

Stop ridiculing McCain over not knowing what hemisphere Spain is in. He obviously was thinking of New Spain (later called Mexico, but some people still call it New Spain). It is unfair to criticize McCain over this, just like it was unfair to mock his statement that the fundamentals of the economy are strong when you know he was talking about our workers, our farms, our machinery. It is also unfair to jump all over a 72-year old man like that. Don't you liberals have any respect?

Posted by: George W. in Washington D.C. | September 18, 2008 6:59 PM

To McCain "Zapatero" means just a "shoe-maker", and he only deals with friendly ones that charge him $600.00 for a pair. McCain and Palin have a clue and "don't get it" indeed.
He is a military pilot and war 'hero' but does not know what a 'hemisphere' is, either.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 18, 2008 6:56 PM

McCain doesn't know what hemisphere Spain is in, and hadn't a clue who the prime minister is. Palin has never heard of the Bush doctrine. We'll sure be in good hands if these two bozos get into office. At least if they don't even know who the other world leaders are, they won't be able to talk to them and embarrass the U.S.

Posted by: Spain? Is that near Antarctica or something? | September 18, 2008 6:51 PM

Obviously McCain knows more about NATO than the writer or most of the posters. Spain's participation in Afghanistan is microscopic - almost to the point of being insulting given NATO's mandate of reciprocal defense. McCain will befriend our TRUE allies. I understand his point perfectly. And I support his position.

Posted by: Common Sense | September 18, 2008 6:46 PM

I don´t understand people who says Spain is not an USA ally. What about the USA military bases in the Iberian Peninsula which are a strategic cornerstone for the United States? What about the counter-terrorism collaboration? What about the Spanish belonging to the NATO and its involvement in the Afghan ISAF mission? You people better give up poisoning reality.

One thin is what you play to the gallery and a very dinstinct one is the real day by day reality.

Posted by: Spanish | September 18, 2008 6:44 PM

i dont think it matters one bit if he made a mistake its not even a big deal obama has make many but when obama makes them there arent 10 liberal media rabid dogs ready to strike i wont be told how to vote by the media or vote for a communist

Posted by: wtobias | September 18, 2008 6:44 PM

This ignorant old mad, has insulted our president and all the Spanish nation. This old man (ignorant)one will be the next president of the USA???,lamentable for the world. I hope that you request excuses to our president and Spain.

Posted by: YoGroucho | September 18, 2008 6:33 PM

its no big deal obama does not know how many states we have

Posted by: wtobias | September 18, 2008 6:28 PM

McCain, Palin, and Bush are all cut with the same template: Ignorance.
Ignorance is source of suffering.
But Real Ignorance is not abut 'not knowing'.
It's about "thinking that they know".
And, they compound their ignoance by lying about it.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 18, 2008 6:15 PM

For those who are wondering about the way to call Spanish PM, they have to know that this diversion is due to the Spanish official denomination of the office as "President of the Government of Spain". So, in Spain, alse we refer to him as "President" but never PM.

For the record I'm not a Zapatero supporter at all and I reckon he could have done the things regarding Irak in other way without leaving scars in the Spanish-American relationship.

Posted by: Adalme | September 18, 2008 6:11 PM

McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, was back with the campaign last week.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.


In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:
.
Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.
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Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."


*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N38Ug_ugzXs
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Posted by: McCain is a LIAR! | September 18, 2008 4:41 PM

The WP will most likely endorse Obama when they make endorsements. And I'm sure the W. Times will do the same for McCain. So what?

Only those with a very myopic view of world history and worlds affairs, say a Sarah Palin or a GW Bush, would question why anyone cares what another nation in the world thinks of us.

Posted by: Rob Vukovic' | September 18, 2008 4:37 PM

Adrian:
I think you are full of dung. You know the old saying, "you are what you eat"? Well when you have been eating dung for the last eight years and have liked it, chances are that you are Dung. Just sit there and take it in. The Ole Republican way, vote against your interest and sit there eating Dung.

Posted by: I don't like dung | September 18, 2008 4:19 PM

I am wondering why we should care what Spain thinks. This article is full of dung, and the person who wrote it is full of dung. This newspaper rag just can't seem to report straight facts. Yet the facts point directly to supporting Obama. Why can't the WP just come out with an endorsement. Just be honest for once.

Posted by: Adrian | September 18, 2008 4:11 PM

Hey people, gotta a question. Is it true that the Coen Brothers are coming out with a sequel to "No Country For Old Men" starring John Sidney McCain?

Posted by: My Friends, My Friends | September 18, 2008 4:07 PM

McCain is still angry about the Spanish-American War, which was the first time he was taken prisoner. Old grudges die hard.

Posted by: freedom5 | September 18, 2008 4:00 PM

McCain/Palin
Incontinent/Incompetent '08

Posted by: Rob Vukovic' | September 18, 2008 4:00 PM

You are being disingenuous. Come on out and say it. He was confused. Lost focus. Happens to all of us.

The problem is that he and his people, rather than admit that, are actually talking about molding our actions towards an ally in order to cover up his momentary mistake.
And the press, by speculating what he really meant rather than stating baldly that he was confused, is only affirming that it is worse to admit a mistake than to ostracize an ally on spurious grounds.

Posted by: oeta | September 18, 2008 3:58 PM

Dear Matt PhD,

I hope you can get a refund from whomever conferred a doctorate on you before the pole shift.

Posted by: Rob VUKOVIC | September 18, 2008 3:58 PM

This reminds me of the interview McCain gave last week when, asked about Palin's national security qualifications, he answered with a non-sequitur describing her as the person who knows the most about energy in the entire United States.

The guy seems lost, to be honest. He wasn't exactly lucid on The View, or in a few other interviews I've seen.

Posted by: castanea | September 18, 2008 3:56 PM

Wow McCain is really old. I seriuosly just now realized how old he really is. If my history is correct, I believe the Spanish were out of Latin America around the 1820s. Simon Bolivar led the the war of independece against the Spanish. So if he remembers the time when Latin america was part of Spain. That puts him at over 200 years old.He is confusing the past with the present. Alzhiemer Alert!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 3:53 PM

What has destroyed liberty and the rights of men in every government that has ever existed under the sun?

The generalizing and concentrating of all cares and powers into one body.

-Thomas Jefferson...


Posted by: AlexP1 | September 18, 2008 3:44 PM

Matt PhD in Psychology: I would encourage you to seek professional help from a psychiatrist.

I am serious, I think you need to talk to a professional.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 3:35 PM

"McCain, like Hillary Clinton, understands Iran's intentions only too well. And for that reason alone, he should be elected."

Is this the same John McCain that "understood" that Iran was training Sunnis?

Or is it the same John McCain who thinks Spain is in Latin America?

The guy is geographically challenged and can't remember who our allies or real enemies are, just what you want in a "foreign policy expert"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 3:32 PM

First of all I am in Miami, and I heard this interview this morning. And anyone who was listening to it could clearly make out that McCain had no idea who the Interviewer was talking about. She would talk about Spain and he would reference Latin America where it had nothing to do with the question on whether or not he would meet with Spain's PM. So he did not snub him, he just had no clue who he was. Earlier this afternoon even the interviewer, Yoly Cuello said on the radio that it was clear to her that McCain had no clue who she was talking about. Its funny, because she is right winger wacko, Latin version. And not too long ago she was on CNN via phone saying that apparenty McCain knew who she was talking about. So what it is going on here? McCain had no clue, who Spain's PM was , the reporter stated he did not on radio shortly after, then McCain got to her, and WOW guess what he did know who she was talking about. Sounds fishy

Posted by: A Miamian | September 18, 2008 3:31 PM

My greatest wish at this time is to let current McCain voters to know that if we have a Republican controlled White House in these crucial next four years and if a disaster strikes whether they be a hurricane or a pole shift, that they will make Hurricane Katrina look like nothing compared to how they would treat humans during the pole shift and after. Absolutely no aid but declaring martial law for each state or country hard hit by the shift which translates into giving up our guns for protection and a police state. The slow response from the government surrounding Hurricane Katrina was their attempt to declare martial law in New Orleans and 'take over' the state. Harmful thoughts was their primary focus.

If the Republicans can't declare martial law by their wish of a next terrorist attack (terror-wish) they will certainly declare martial law after the pole shift. This I worry greatly. Humans, primarily in the unconcious has the desire to support the dark agenda and feel that an experienced, stubborn, and violent candidate is 'suitable' for the job because they feel this is what defines politicians and needs a bully to feel safe from threats from other countries. People are forgetting that Republicans also consider citizens to be terrorists as well. Many McCain voters thinks that they would be safe from a McCain administration and yet this is actually the exact opposite in reality of their intention. Bush Administration wouldn't have proposed deadly chemtrails nor the deadly viruses which were all intended secretly against the human species. I'm looking forward to aiding many after the pole shift and hopefully many will too. Care to comment on this matter?

Posted by: Matt PhD in Psychology | September 18, 2008 3:24 PM

Reagan4Life:

Thank you for your correction.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 3:22 PM

and John McCain probably thinks the King of Spain is "Juan Valdez". What does McCain think about the joint U.S. Navy and Spanish base at Rota, Spain that provides backup for NATO. Probaly thinks the "Canary Islands" are for the birds and the "Prado" is a dance step.

There' a lot of "bull" here and I don't mean a bullfight either.

Posted by: Viva Castellano | September 18, 2008 3:20 PM

I think it's pretty obvious he was thinking of the Zapatistas and blanking on who Zapatero is. On the one hand, anybody can have a moment like that when they space out and can't tell the players without a scorecard. This is especially understandable when the preceding context had focused his attention on Latin America and now his questioner suddenly switched to Spain, but mentioned only the name of the Prime Minister and didn't say she was now going to ask about Spain.

On the other hand, people who are presidential material are not supposed to have such moments, and McCain has been having too damn many of them. And given that the Spanish press is having a conniption about it, he should address it and clarify his remarks.

Posted by: herzliebster | September 18, 2008 3:19 PM

I must be missing something here. It looks like they were talking past each other and McCain didn't say what the article implies. There is no story here. Don't the WP reporters have anything to do?

Posted by: Tom | September 18, 2008 3:11 PM

Reagan4Life:

Aznar was not up for re-election, but we are only "punishing" those who voted for Zapatero (the other Spaniards are collateral damage ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 3:06 PM

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/also-will-call-for-democratization.html

Thursday, September 18, 2008
Also Will Call For Democratization, Removal of Burger King

ABC News:

"At a joint rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa Thursday, Republican John McCain slammed the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) for being "asleep at the switch" saying that if he were president, he would fire Chris Cox, the chairman of the SEC since 2005 and a former Republican congressman...
But while the president nominates and the Senate confirms the SEC chair, a commissioner of an independent regulatory commission cannot be removed by the president."

Perhaps he could name him President of Spain.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/also-will-call-for-democratization.html

Posted by: Emily | September 18, 2008 3:06 PM

Correction. Aznar's support of Bush cost Aznar's Partido Popular reelection. Aznar himself was stepping down in favor of a new party leader.

Posted by: Reagan4Life | September 18, 2008 3:04 PM

And geopoliticaly speaking, why are we punishing the entire nation of Spain for what amounts to a policy disagreement between Zapatero and Bush that is no different than that which we have had with every other Coalition of the Willing country that has pulled their troops? Flawed thinking. Aznar was in the tank for Bush to the point that it cost him his reelection and brought Zapatero to power. Just as 9/11 irrationally influenced the American electorate, the Madrid subway bombings had the same impact on Spanish voters, but moved them to the center-left.

Spain has been our steadfast ally since WWII, both under Franco's fascist dictatorship, and after Spain transitioned to Democracy in the late 70's. This bears repeating: Spain was in most American's lifetimes a Fascist dictatorship. They voluntarily transitioned to Democracy. King Juan Carlos protected this democracy by facing down a coup which would have handed him absolute power. Spain is the very model of what we would hope our other democratic, free allies would aspire to be.

We need to get back to the bipartisan international engagement prevalent in the Cold War.

Posted by: Reagan4Life | September 18, 2008 3:00 PM

Ol' alzheimer John is losing it daily.
His neoCON campaign is a joke

Posted by: McPALIN da troll | September 18, 2008 2:59 PM

As usual the comments from the McCain supporters are mostly shrill, ungrammatical, and vicious. Mr. McCain, you are known by the company you keep.

Posted by: ex-Washingtonian_in_NH | September 18, 2008 2:54 PM

My greatest wish at this time is to let current McCain voters to know that if we have a Republican controlled White House in these crucial next four years and if a disaster strikes whether they be a hurricane or a pole shift, that they will make Hurricane Katrina look like nothing compared to how they would treat humans during the pole shift and after. Absolutely no aid but declaring martial law for each state or country hard hit by the shift which translates into giving up our guns for protection and a police state. The slow response from the government surrounding Hurricane Katrina was their attempt to declare martial law in New Orleans and 'take over' the state. Harmful thoughts was their primary focus.

If the Republicans can't declare martial law by their wish of a next terrorist attack (terror-wish) they will certainly declare martial law after the pole shift. This I worry greatly. Humans, primarily in the unconcious has the desire to support the dark agenda and feel that an experienced, stubborn, and violent candidate is 'suitable' for the job because they feel this is what defines politicians and needs a bully to feel safe from threats from other countries. People are forgetting that Republicans also consider citizens to be terrorists as well. Many McCain voters thinks that they would be safe from a McCain administration and yet this is actually the exact opposite in reality of their intention. Bush Administration wouldn't have proposed deadly chemtrails nor the deadly viruses which were all intended secretly against the human species. I'm looking forward to aiding many after the pole shift and hopefully many will too. Care to comment on this matter?

Posted by: Jim | September 18, 2008 2:54 PM

Spacecat: It is actually both, Prime Minister and President Zapatero. Juan Carlos is King, and Head of State. Zapatero is President of Government.

Setting that straight, McCain-Palin have turned this lifelong Republican away. At least for now. Conservative principles are not being met by this campaign. The economy is in the tank, and value voters are bringing our entire intellectual position down. Movement Conservatism means something. Look it up. I'm voting Obama because I believe that of the two candidates, he will do the least damage to the principles enshrined in Movement Conservatism. This pains me. Make no mistake about it.

Posted by: Reagan4Life | September 18, 2008 2:52 PM

This is right up there with thinking that they speak Latin in Latin America! Hey they all speak Spanish don't they?? Keep this befuddled old dude out of the White House.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 18, 2008 2:49 PM

One more thing. As far as Hillary supporters are concerned. If Obama does not win and things get worse under McCain or even worse he dies and Palin is in office, why should I forgive you and vote for her? I wouldn't hold it against her personally just you.

As far as the gaffe about Spain.
The Spainish people are our allies and I wouldn't blame them one bit for being upset for not knowing who thier leader is. I'm not happy about it. We could use all the friends we can get.

Posted by: Lance | September 18, 2008 2:43 PM

Democrats Donald Trump and Lynn Forrester are voting for McCain as well.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 2:05 PM
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You mean Donald Loud-Mouth Trump and Lady Lynn Loud-Mouth Forester de Rothschild and wife of the banking scion Sir Evelyn de Rothschild

Wow...what a missed opportunity for Obama.

Oh my gosh whatever will he do?

Keep both of these fools McSlob.

Posted by: :-) | September 18, 2008 2:41 PM

So, John McCain is confused again. Yes, that same epitome of brilliance who told us that Iran was training Al Qaeda until Joe Lieberman whispered in his ear that they weren't ... that John McCain.
Just further proof, as if we needed any that McCain is totally mentally unfit to be president. The man is stupid, intellectually lazy, incapable of serious thought, & unable to understand anything that is beyond the grasp of a bright 3rd grader. Just like Bush, he sees the world in black & white terms. Just like Bush, he is incapable of adapting to changing realities. Just like Bush, he could give us an administration of monumental incompetence ... if we let him.
That is why Obama will resoundingly win in Nov.
America deserves better than McCain!!

Posted by: Doctor B | September 18, 2008 2:41 PM

Senility is a terrible thing.

Posted by: freedom5 | September 18, 2008 2:38 PM

You heard it here, folks. Vote Republican or die. Those are your choices.

In other news, turn off your caps lock. You look like an even bigger dope than you appear to be.

Posted by: WPE | September 18, 2008 2:37 PM

Sarah Palin can see Spain from her house.

Posted by: :-) | September 18, 2008 2:36 PM

I can almost visualize McCain singing Bomb bomb bomb bomb Spain. LOL

Posted by: Wolf | September 18, 2008 2:33 PM

From Randy Sheunemann's email:

"Senator McCain refused to commit to a White House meeting with President Zapatero in this interview."

Um, doesn't Spain have a prime minister, and not a president? Isn't this a little like saying President Brown of the United Kingdom?

Isn't this as big a gaffe as McCain's, seeing as how it comes from a written email from a senior campaign foreign policy advisor?

Posted by: Doug | September 18, 2008 2:32 PM

Note to the McCain campaign: It's PRIME MINISTER Zapatero, not PRESIDENT Zapatero. Just admit you don't know what you're talking about and STOP DIGGING! I'm actually embarrassed for you.

Posted by: SpaceCat | September 18, 2008 2:27 PM

Yep Jake, I'm aware.

I don't care.

If McCain wins then so be it.I will continue to be a good American, work hard, pay my taxs and sacrifice to make this country a beter place.
I've lost a brother in Iraq and I miss him dearly. Spin all you want about victory in Iraq and his sacrifice was worth it. It doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't be there in the first place. It is a Republican administrration that "deviated from the truth" about why we had to fight. I have no faith or trust that the Republicans will do the right thing. Even McCain.

Sorry

Posted by: Lance | September 18, 2008 2:27 PM

Yeah, the Dems are really desperate the way we've made up about 8 points in the polls in 3 days. Whatever shall we do?

Electoral-vote.com averages polls over a weeks time. As the guy who runs it says, a lot of those that you see on there right now took place before McCain put his foot, shin, knee, and thigh in his mouth. Take it with a grain of salt.

Posted by: WPE | September 18, 2008 2:22 PM

Mccain should release his medical records as the doctors association is demanding. he seems to suffer from some kind of mental disease, by his looks, his walking and his answers to questions, especially talking about POW experience all the time even though the questions is about economy, music, number of houses he own etc....Now he doesn't want to talk to even our allies like Spain? suddenly Dick Cheney looks like a Gandhi for me compared to this nut case.

Posted by: RJ2008 | September 18, 2008 2:21 PM

MCCAIN KNOWS ALL ABOUT BAILING OUT RICH BANKERS AND SCREWING OVER MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR PEOPLE, HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS!!!


*McCain - Founding Member of the Keating Five:

McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)

Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


*Mafia Ties:

In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards, and regrets for not attending, to Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona. Another politician to send regrets was Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion.


Straight-talk, my friends:

http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
.

Posted by: Kylie Romanski | September 18, 2008 2:20 PM

The way McCain segued into the comments about poor Felipe Calderon's problems, I do think he had Zapatero confused with the Zapatista rebellion in Chiapas.
Who knows if he realized his mistake later & just stuck to his talking point to cover it?
Because that's clearly what his campaign is doing.

Posted by: Soldier's Mom | September 18, 2008 2:19 PM

Jon:

Spanish troops are no where NEAR harm's way.

http://www.nato.int/isaf/docu/epub/pdf/isaf_placemat.pdf

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 2:19 PM

Spain has been leading supporter of the US in Afghanistan with lots of troops on the ground in harm's way. One possibility might be for Spain to pull its troops out of Afghanistan and lead the US on the hook.

However, the Spanish are committed members of NATO who actually see Al Qaeda and the Taliban as a serious threat to Europe that cannot be dealt with by unilateralism...unlike the US, which seems to constantly cut off its own face to spite its nose by going into Iraq.

Posted by: Jon | September 18, 2008 2:15 PM

The Insufferable Obama Idiots grow more nasty and desperate by the hour, because it bothers them that their Messiah is just standing around, saying and doing nothing, looking wishy-washy and hesitant, the opposite of a leader, which is what he is, the NO LEADER WANNABE-WHICH AIN'T GOING TO WORK FOR THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF VOTERS OUT THERE-OBAMA'S TRUE COLORS ARE SHOWING, HE WAS NOT, NOR EVER WILL BE, CUT OUT TO BE PRESIDENT-HE'S NEVER DONE ANYTHING THAT HAS REQUIRED HIM TO STAND UP AND BE A LEADER-AND WHEN WE ARE FACING DOWN IRAN IN THE MOST SERIOUS FOREIGN POLICY CHALLENGE SINCE HITLER IN WWII, YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT WE DEMS. WILL BE VOTING MCCAIN-OR ELSE THE WORLD WILL REALLY BE IN TROUBLE!

Posted by: NOBAMA EVER IN THREE LIFETIMES | September 18, 2008 2:12 PM

Lance:

You are aware that prominent Hillary supporters have been endorsing McCain, right? If the election were held today, McCain would win.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 2:12 PM

Eric:

Are you serious... 4 more years of this presidential nonsense we have been going through before getting a Democrat in office. Can you guaranty a Clinton win? Why would anyone be willing to risk that.

Things are hard enough as it is right now. The idea of waiting is really back.

What do procrastination and masterbation have in commin? It sounds like a good idea at the time but you always end up f**king yourself.

Posted by: Lance | September 18, 2008 2:09 PM

Jim:

My "wish" is that you are not a U.S. citizen.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 2:09 PM

I don't buy the McCain camp's spin. I think McCain completely confused Zapatero for a South American dictator. When the reporter finally felt the need to clarify that she was referring to the leader of Spain, in Europe... at that point it was too late for McCain to do anything other than repeat what he'd already said. Otherwise, he'd have had to admit that he'd been suffering from a major brain fart throughout the conversation. All of the candidates have had minor ones... but his was a biggie. It's especially important for McCain to come across as never suffering from a "senior moment", now that he has a ridiculously under-qualified VP candidate as his running mate.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 18, 2008 2:07 PM

My greatest wish at this time is to let current McCain voters to know that if we have a Republican controlled White House in these crucial next four years and if a disaster strikes whether they be a hurricane or a pole shift, that they will make Hurricane Katrina look like nothing compared to how they would treat humans during the pole shift and after. Absolutely no aid but declaring martial law for each state or country hard hit by the shift which translates into giving up our guns for protection and a police state. The slow response from the government surrounding Hurricane Katrina was their attempt to declare martial law in New Orleans and 'take over' the state. Harmful thoughts was their primary focus.

If the Republicans can't declare martial law by their wish of a next terrorist attack (terror-wish) they will certainly declare martial law after the pole shift. This I worry greatly. Humans, primarily in the unconcious has the desire to support the dark agenda and feel that an experienced, stubborn, and violent candidate is 'suitable' for the job because they feel this is what defines politicians and needs a bully to feel safe from threats from other countries. People are forgetting that Republicans also consider citizens to be terrorists as well. Many McCain voters thinks that they would be safe from a McCain administration and yet this is actually the exact opposite in reality of their intention. Bush Administration wouldn't have proposed deadly chemtrails nor the deadly viruses which were all intended secretly against the human species. I'm looking forward to aiding many after the pole shift and hopefully many will too. Care to comment on this matter?

Posted by: Jim | September 18, 2008 2:06 PM

Obviously this blog is taking McCain's peoples' spin on his bizarre and very confused interview with the Spanish newspaper El Pais. The reporter told him over and over she was from Spain in Europe and Zapatero was the Prime Minister, and McCain could not even begin to understand her. He is showing the early signs of Alzheimer's -- has been showing them for weeks, if you pay any attention -- yet you people still give him a pass on his mental instability and will, apparently, help him become president, if you can. This is diseased.

Posted by: kyle michel sullivan | September 18, 2008 2:06 PM

REPUBLICANS HAVE A PLAN TO KILL ANY REMAINING HUMANS IN THE AFTERLIFE OR POLESHIFT

SO FOR YOUR OWN SAKE DON'T VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN THIS NOVEMBER BECAUSE POLE SHIFT IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT PRESIDENTS TENURE. AND HAVE YOU GUYS WONDER WHY REPUBLICANS BUSH AND NOW MCCAIN WANTING TO CONTINUE
AND EXPAND THE SPYING PROGRAM? TO SAVE US FROM TERRORITS?
I DIDN'T THINK SO BUT TO TAKE CONTROL IN THE AFTERLIFE AND LOOK TO REMOVE ANYONE THREATENING THEM WHICH INCLUDES THE U.S. CITIZENS.

REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT U.S. CITIZENS ARE THE TERRORISTS AND THAT THE TERRORISTS THE MAJORITY OF U.S. CITIZENS BELIEVE IN ARE ACTUALLY BENEFITING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THUS REPUBLICANS ARE A FRIEND TO TERRORISTS WHICH MEANS ONLY ONE THING. YOU ARE CONSIDERED A TERRORIST TO THEM BECAUSE THEY SAY YOU WOULD INTERFERE WITH THEM AFTER THE POLESHIFT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT MATTERS NOT. WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE CONTINUTING TO EXPAND THE SPYING PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THEY KEEP AN EYE ON ANY POTENTIAL THREATS ON U.S. SOIL WHICH INCLUDES THE U.S. CITIZENS. I'LL BET YOU ANYTHING THAT A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED WHITE HOUSE OR CONGRESS DURING AND AFTER THE POLESHIFT ASSURES YOUR DEATH AND THESE COWARDS GOING TO THEIR BUNKERS WHILE ALL OF YOU SUFFER FROM STARVATION OR FROM DEHYDRATION. OBAMA DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE COMING POLE SHIFT, HE JUST HEARD RUMORS AND I'M SURE THAT HE HAS NO PLANS TO BETTER HIMSELF AFTER THE POLE SHIFT BUT TO ONLY AID AND ASSIST THOSE IN NEED.

MCCAIN KNOWS OF THE COMING POLE SHIFT AND THIS MEANS TROUBLE. ITS FUNNY HOW SOME PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR MCCAIN THIS NOVEMBER BUT THEN THEY INTEND YOUR DEATH AFTER THE POLE SHIFT FOR THOSE REMAINING THAT STILL SURVIVED.
I HAVE A FAMILY WITH 5 KIDS AND I FEEL LIKE I WILL BE IN DANGER EVEN IF I SURVIVE THE POLE SHIFT BECAUSE OF THE REPUBLICANS AND THEIR SPYING PROGRAM.

I ACTUALLY HAD A DREAM ABOUT THIS EXACT EVENT LAST NIGHT POTENTIALLY HAPPENING. THIS IS NO ACCIDENT AND IT FELT SO REAL. I WAS ALSO SHOWN JOHN MCCAIN AND PALIN TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT HOW TO CONTROL THE HUMAN POPULATION AND HOW TO WEED THEM OUT THROUGH VARIOUS DISEASES. FOR MY FAMILY AND YOUR FAMILY'S SAKE DON'T VOTE FOR THESE TWO FACE
IDIOTS. OBAMA IN MY DREAM WAS SHOWN AS A COMPASSIONATE MAN WHO LOOKED TO AID THOSE IN TROUBLE. THIS IS NO LIE.. AND IM NOT SAYING THIS JUST BECAUSE I LIKE ONE CANDIDATE OVER THE OTHER. IT WAS ACTUALLY SHOWN TO ME IN MY DREAM.

HAS ANY OF YOU HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES LIKE THIS IN THEIR DREAMS?

Posted by: Matt PhD in Psychology | September 18, 2008 2:06 PM

Democrats Donald Trump and Lynn Forrester are voting for McCain as well.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 2:05 PM

Newsweek Exclusive: Top Clinton Supporter John Coale Endorses McCain

John Coale, a prominent Washington lawyer, husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren and a supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, announced today that he was supporting John McCain for president. Coale, who traveled with Sen. Clinton, President Clinton and her family through out the primary season, complained of sexism, and said the Democratic Party is "being taken over by the moveon.org types" in an exclusive interview with Newsweek.com's Tammy Haddad. He said he tried to prevent Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, from attending an August 18th meeting in Scranton, Pa. with McCain campaign surrogate Carly Fiorina. "I urged him not to go and told him it would embarrass his sister, but he has a mind of his own." Coale says Mr. Rodham asked Ms. Fiorina "about McCain's Supreme Court picks."


Posted by: Even SuperDems are Voting McCain | September 18, 2008 2:03 PM

POWMA:

What don't you think I "learned" from the primaries?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 2:03 PM

TIME TO FIRE YOUR VP MCCAIN, MORE INFO LEAKING OUT TODAY ABOUT THE SARAH PALIN AFFAIR. http://www.hotpres.com

IS PALIN PREGNANT AGAIN??? CAN WE HAVE A PREGNANT VP? http://www.veeppeek.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 2:02 PM

NObama, You keep posting nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I can see you probably forget to take your meds again today.
What are you going to do in a month and half when obama wins?
Keep banging your head against the wall and rattle loose the few brain cells you have left?

Posted by: vwcat | September 18, 2008 2:01 PM

JakeD,
Looks like you didn't learn from the primaries.Looser.


Posted by: POWMA | September 18, 2008 2:01 PM

Sorry, RJ DUMMY (god Obama supporters are insufferable dummies!) GET YOUR DAMN FACTS STRAIGHT: CHUCK HAGEL ISN'T SUPPORTING OBAMA FOR ANYTHING:

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Chuck Hagel, a leading Republican voice on international affairs and an outspoken critic of the war in Iraq, won't endorse either major-party presidential candidate in 2008, a spokesman said Tuesday.


Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska is leaving office after his current term.

The announcement came just hours after a former GOP congressman suggested Hagel as a possible running mate for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, one of Hagel's Senate colleagues.

"Sen. Hagel has no intention of getting involved in any of the campaigns, and is not planning to endorse either candidate," Hagel spokesman Jordan Stark said.

The two-term senator from Nebraska is leaving office after his current term and will be overseas on official business during this year's party conventions, Stark said.

Posted by: NO MORE OBAMA IDIOT CLONES! | September 18, 2008 2:00 PM

I find it laughable if not pathetic that McCain came out yesterday calling for more regulation of Wall-Street.


MCCAIN IS A LIAR!!!!


John McCain: The Deregulator:


I don’t think anyone who wants to increase the burden of government regulation and higher taxes has any real understanding of economics and the economy and what is needed in order to ensure the future of this country.”
– John McCain [McCain Town Hall in Inez, Kentucky, 4/23/08]


McCain Is An Avid Supporter Of Lax Rules For Financial Institutions
McCain Supported A Banking Bill Because It Eliminated “The Tremendous Regulatory Burden Imposed On Financial Institutions.” While speaking in favor of bank deregulation on the floor of the senate, John McCain said, “This legislation takes a small but important step toward eliminating the tremendous regulatory burden imposed on financial institutions… One principal reason banks are unable to make loans is the bewildering array of statutory and regulatory restrictions and paperwork requirements imposed by Congress and the regulatory agencies. While a case can certainly be made that every law and regulation is intended to serve a laudable purpose, the aggregate effect of the rapidly increasing regulatory burden imposed on banks is to cause them to devote substantial time, energy and money to compliance rather than meeting the credit needs of the community.” [Congressional Record, 11/19/93; emphasis added]


McCain Supported A Bill To “Takes A Small Step Forward Toward Eliminating Unnecessary Regulatory Burdens Imposed On Banks.” While speaking in favor of bank deregulation on the floor of the senate, John McCain said, “While a case can certainly be made that every law and regulation is intended to serve a laudable purpose, the aggregate effect of the rapidly increasing regulatory burden imposed on banks is to cause them to devote substantial time, energy and money to compliance rather than meeting the credit needs of the community … This bill recognizes this fact, and takes a small step forward toward eliminating unnecessary regulatory burdens imposed on banks.” [Congressional Record, 11/19/93; emphasis added]


McCain Said The Best Thing Government Can Do For Business Is “Stay Out Of Its Way.” While speaking about the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act on the floor on the Senate in 2000, John McCain said, “I am convinced that the best thing government can often do to advance the fortunes of the private sector is to stay out of its way. I support this bill because it makes progress toward that end, by improving companies’ flexibility to hire the talent they need, while providing for the regulatory framework and new educational opportunities to protect and promote American workers.” [Congressional Record, 10/3/00; emphasis added]


In 1999, McCain Supported Phil Gramm’s Banking Deregulation Bill. In 1999, John McCain voted for passage of the Senate version of a bill that would eliminate current barriers erected by the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act and other laws that impede affiliations between banking, securities, insurance and other firms. The bill also would exempt small, non-urban banks from the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), revise the Federal Home Loan Bank system and require that owners of automated teller machines (ATMs) provide notice on the ATM and on-screen of any charges imposed for the use of the terminal. The bill passed 54-44. [S. 900, Vote #105, 5/6/99]


McCain Missed The Vote For Final Passage Because He Was Campaigning In New Hampshire. John McCain missed the final vote on Phil Gramm’s banking deregulation bill because he was campaigning in New Hampshire. [NPR, “Morning Edition,” 11/5/99; S. 900, Vote #354, 11/4/99]


McCain Has Based His 2008 Campaign On Promoting Less Regulation:

McCain: “I Don’t Think Anyone Who Wants To Increase The Burden Of Government Regulation And Higher Taxes Has Any Real Understanding Of Economics.” During a McCain Town Hall in Inez, Kentucky, John McCain said, “When we come out of this recession and we will because I believe that the fundamentals of our economy are good … Sen. Clinton wants the government to make the decisions for you on your health care, I want the families to make the decisions on their health care. I don’t think anyone who wants to increase the burden of government regulation and higher taxes has any real understanding of economics and the economy and what is needed in order to ensure the future of this country.” [McCain Town Hall in Inez, Kentucky, 4/23/08; emphasis added]


McCain: “I Understand Why The AFL-CIO And Maybe Other Unions May Oppose My Free Market, Less Regulation, Right To Work.” During an appearance on Fox’s “Special Report with Brit Hume,” John McCain said, “I understand why the AFL-CIO and maybe other unions may oppose my free market less regulation right to work. I think we have honest differences of opinion. I respect those labor unions, but I’m sure that those differences are very intense and very real.” [Fox News,” Special Report with Brit Hume,” 3/12/08]


McCain: “Let’s Reduce Regulation.” While speaking about the economy in St. Louis, Missouri, John McCain said, “I’m asked all the time are we in a recession or not in a recession. And I don’t know the answer to that because it’s kind of a technical term… I do not believe we should raise your taxes. I think it would be the worst thing we could do. And that means to me I think the tax cuts need to be made permanent. When you’ve got a bad economy, the worst thing you can do is increase people’s tax burden. Let’s reduce it. Let’s reduce regulation.” [CNN, “Ballot Bowl, 3/15/08]


McCain: “We Need To Return To The Reagan Years… We Need Less Regulation.” As shown on PBS’s “Washington Week,” John McCain said, “We need to return to the Reagan years. We need to have fiscal conservatism. We need less government. We need less regulation. We need to end of spending spree which has eroded our base of Republican support.” [PBS, “Washington Week,” 1/25/08]


McCain Promised To “Give Them Lower Taxes, Less Regulation, Less Government In Their Lives.” As shown on CNN’s “CNN Newsroom,” John McCain said, “We’ve got to do the other things necessary to encourage business and give them lower taxes, less regulation, less government in their lives, and that means a simpler, fairer — tax code. The tax code in America is broken and it needs to be fixed.” [CNN, “CNN Newsroom,” 2/14/08]


To Fix the Economy, McCain Would “We’ve Got To Take Specific Actions, Keep Their Taxes Low, Less Regulation.” As shown on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” John McCain said, “That our economy is in terrible shape, that we’ve got to take specific actions, keep their taxes low, less regulation, get - start exploring and exploiting offshore oil deposits.” [ABC, “Good Morning America,” 7/2/08]


McCain Said The Difference Between Obama & Himself Would Be “More Regulation Or Less Regulation.” During a media availability in Phoenix, Arizona, John McCain said, “I think the important thing is that there will be stark differences between either Senator [Clinton] or Senator Obama and me because they are liberal Democrats and I’m a conservative Republican… whether we pursue the present strategy in Iraq or whether we — or whether we set a date for withdrawal, which will mean Al Qaida wins; whether we have more regulation or less regulation.” [McCain Media Availability via CQ Transcriptions, 3/3/08; emphasis added]


McCain: “Less Government, Lower Taxes, Less Regulation, Safer America Is What I Can Give America.” During an appearance on CBS’s “60 Minutes,” John McCain said, “I can make a case that a less government, lower taxes, less regulation, safer America is what I can give America. But I don’t underestimate the size of the challenge.” [CBS, “60 Minutes,” 3/9/08]


McCain Is Long-Time Supporter Of Deregulation
McCain: “I Am A Deregulator. I Believe In Deregulation.” While speaking about the cable and satellite television during an appearance on CNN’s “On the Money,” John McCain said, “I am a deregulator. I believe in deregulation.” [CNN, “In the Money,” 7/13/03]


McCain: “The Basic Core Principles Of The Republican Party… Less Government Is Best Government, Less Regulation.” When asked how the Republican Party can recover after the losses in the 2006 election, John McCain said, “By returning to the basic core principles of the Republican Party, very careful stewardship of tax dollars, less government is best government, less regulation, lower taxes, strong national defense, community and family values.” [CNN, “CNN Newsroom,” 11/8/06]


McCain: “I Have A Long Voting Record In Support Of Deregulation.” The St. Petersburg Times quoted McCain at a Senate Commerce Committee hearing as having said, “I have a long voting record in support of deregulation.” [St. Petersburg Times, 6/5/03]


McCain: “I Continue To Believe In A Strong National Defense, Free Trade, Deregulation.” During an appearance on CNN’s “Wolf Blitzer Reports,” John McCain said, “I continue to believe in a strong national defense, free trade, deregulation. I’m pro-life. There are many, many issues that I feel would make it very difficult for Democrats to embrace me.” [CNN, “Wolf Blitzer Reports,” 5/8/02; emphasis added]


McCain: “Keep The Regulation Of The Government As Much As Possible Out Of People’s Lives.” During an appearance on PBS’s “NewsHour with Jim Lehrer,” John McCain said, “If you inspect my 17-year voting record, it’s a proud conservative Republican who acts on principles and one who obviously has a very strong commitment to the leadership role the United States has to play… I think that’s probably one of our first efforts - keep the regulation of the government as much as possible out of people’s lives.” [PBS, “NewHour with Jim Lehrer,” 2/2/00]


McCain: “I Believe In Smaller Government… Less Regulation.” During an interview on PBS’s “NewsHour with Jim Lehrer,” John McCain said, “, I would argue that I have 17 years of legislative experience with a clear voting record of a strong conservative. I believe in smaller government, stronger defense, lower taxes, less regulation, encouragement of entrepreneurship, encouragement of legal immigration. I think that my fundamental philosophies and beliefs are very clear, and I’ve articulated them for years and years. And most importantly, I voted on them.” [PBS, “NewsHour with Jim Lehrer,” 10/15/99]


McCain: “I’ve Been A Good Party Member. I Agree On Most Issues, Fundamentals Of Lower Taxes, Less Regulation.” During an appearance on CNN’s “Crossfire,” John McCain said, “I’ve been a good party member. I agree on most issues, fundamentals of lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, coherent foreign policy, strong national defense.” [CNN, “Crossfire,” 9/13/99]


McCain Supports Deregulation Whenever Possible. The Journal of Commerce reported, “A McCain aide notes in the past he has supported deregulation of other industries. ‘Any time you can responsibly deregulate, Sen. McCain wants to deregulate,’ the aide said.” [Journal of Commerce, 1/6/97]

Posted by: JennyinOhio | September 18, 2008 1:59 PM

McCain wants to go to war with even our Allies now.
Let's see, he's declared war on Iran, Russia and now Spain.
Who's next? Great Britain???
How about Canada?
Who in their right mind wants to support this loose cannon and chance our being in war with the world?
Talk about destroying our relations with world and our reputation.
Sounds like mccain and Palin are planning to make even Bush-Cheney look like peaceniks.

Posted by: vwcat | September 18, 2008 1:57 PM

Here is a real maverick. Another Republican endorsing Obama after Chuck Hagel today.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Republican_Congressman_endorses_Obama.html

Posted by: RJ2008 | September 18, 2008 1:57 PM

"Wow. That's a real bummer for the Obama campaign. We lose a tighta$$, elistist, never worked a day in her life, faux-ristocrat (She sounds like she'd fit RIGHT in with the republicans!"

UH, I THINK YOU'RE DESCRIBING CAROLINE KENNEDY, AREN'T YOU? HA HA HA HA HA! THAT DUMMY IS SUPPORTING OBAMA BECAUSE HER "CHILDREN LIKE HIM" WHAT AN IDIOT CAROLINE KENNEDY IS! NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HER LIFE, UNLIKE LYNN FORESTER, WHO BUILT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR TELECOMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY BY HERSELF, AND THEN MARRIED INTO THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY!

HA HA HA! NOT EXACTLY LIKE MISS NAMBY PAMPY KENNEDY IN HER OH SO LIMOUSINE LIBERAL SHELTERED NYC LIFESTYLE, NOW IS IT?

Posted by: ONLY IDIOTS WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA | September 18, 2008 1:55 PM

Obama is gaining in all tracking polls today, leads in New Mexico and Indiana, trails in Virginia: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/09/18/poll-watch-obama-gains-in-trackings/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:54 PM

McCain, like Hillary Clinton, understands Iran's intentions only too well. And for that reason alone, he should be elected.

And it needs to be repeated one more time, because this Dem. will be voting for McCain SOLELY AND FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN HE UNDERSTANDS THE GRAVE GRAVE DANGER THAT THE WORLD IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE IN THE NEXT YEAR, IF NOT SOONER-THE SITUATION WITH IRAN-WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED WITH FORCE, AND WHICH OBAMA IN HIS WISHY-WASHY, NEVER TAKE A STAND, PISS-ANT UNBELIEVABLY IRRITATING WAY OF HIS SIMPLY CAN'T HANDLE, NOR CAN BIDEN, BECAUSE BIDEN IS SO FREQUENTLY WRONG ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS, LIKE HE IS DEAD WRONG ON IRAN.

IT CAN ONLY BE MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT-THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE.


Posted by: NOBAMA NEVER | September 18, 2008 1:52 PM

NOBAMA Wrote (In all Caps, I might add...):

HA HA HA HA! A HARBINGER OF THINGS TO COME!

LYNN FORESTER REPRESENTS THE DEMOCRATS ABROAD, SINCE SHE IS MARRIED TO ONE OF BRITAIN'S MOST ARISTOCRATIC FAMILIES, THE ROTHSCHILDS. HA HA HA HA! YUP-THOSE OF US DEMS. WHO CARE ABOUT THE COUNTRY AND KNOW WITHOUT QUESTION THAT OBAMA WILL BE DISASTROUS FOR THE COUNTRY, WILL ALL BE VOTING FOR MCCAIN-THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS!
________________________________

Wow. That's a real bummer for the Obama campaign. We lose a tighta$$, elistist, never worked a day in her life, faux-ristocrat (She sounds like she'd fit RIGHT in with the republicans!) and gain an endorsement from Lilly Ledbetter, (the Alabama woman whose fight for equal pay led her to the US Supreme Court.) Ledbetter heralded Obama for supporting fair pay legislation that bears her name. (Lynn-ristocrat probably doesn't know about equal pay, etc...seeing as she married her money...Hey -- JUST LIKE McCAIN!)

"Speaking about Obama, Ledbetter said: "There is only one candidate who has stood up for women like me, who has consistently fought to help women who are working hard every day for our families and aren't being paid fairly."

Way to go Republicans! Sure looks like you landed a winner there!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:51 PM

Let's go to war with Spain, too! Why not? Spain, Russia, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Palestine ... Bring them all on! Victory! Mission accomplished! U-S-A! U-S-A!

Posted by: JLE | September 18, 2008 1:50 PM

Thor:

Here is Obama mistaking Sioux Falls for Sioux City:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/16/obama-to-sioux-falls-thank-you-sioux-city/

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:49 PM

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:48 PM

Here we are in some of the most dire economic times in recent history and what does McCain do about it?....HE LIES!!


Americans...just ask yourself this: Was the GOP screaming for the taxpayers to buy out AIG, Merrill Lynch, Fannie Mae, Lehman Bros. & Freddie Mac when wealthy GOP owners were making obscene profits?...NO.


Then WHY should the taxpayers buy/bail them out NOW?


That's called PRIVATIZING PROFITS AND SOCIALIZING LOSSES.


The GOP SCREAMS for less regulation and the "free market"...where has it gotten us?


THE WEALTHY GOP IS SCREWING US TAXPAYERS!

GOP = Greed Over People

....We deserve straight-talk but all we're getting from John McBush is....MORE LIES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Posted by: Kimi Welsh | September 18, 2008 1:47 PM

Matt:

Are YOU a United States citizen?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:45 PM

Jim:

Are you a U.S. citizen?

fake JakeD:

Perhaps you were referring to the type of "excellent relationship" Obama had with his grandmother?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:44 PM

REPUBLICANS HAVE A PLAN TO KILL ANY REMAINING HUMANS IN THE AFTERLIFE OR POLESHIFT

SO FOR YOUR OWN SAKE DON'T VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN THIS NOVEMBER BECAUSE POLE SHIFT IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT PRESIDENTS TENURE. AND HAVE YOU GUYS WONDER WHY REPUBLICANS BUSH AND NOW MCCAIN WANTING TO CONTINUE
AND EXPAND THE SPYING PROGRAM? TO SAVE US FROM TERRORITS?
I DIDN'T THINK SO BUT TO TAKE CONTROL IN THE AFTERLIFE AND LOOK TO REMOVE ANYONE THREATENING THEM WHICH INCLUDES THE U.S. CITIZENS.

REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT U.S. CITIZENS ARE THE TERRORISTS AND THAT THE TERRORISTS THE MAJORITY OF U.S. CITIZENS BELIEVE IN ARE ACTUALLY BENEFITING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THUS REPUBLICANS ARE A FRIEND TO TERRORISTS WHICH MEANS ONLY ONE THING. YOU ARE CONSIDERED A TERRORIST TO THEM BECAUSE THEY SAY YOU WOULD INTERFERE WITH THEM AFTER THE POLESHIFT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT MATTERS NOT. WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE CONTINUTING TO EXPAND THE SPYING PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THEY KEEP AN EYE ON ANY POTENTIAL THREATS ON U.S. SOIL WHICH INCLUDES THE U.S. CITIZENS. I'LL BET YOU ANYTHING THAT A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED WHITE HOUSE OR CONGRESS DURING AND AFTER THE POLESHIFT ASSURES YOUR DEATH AND THESE COWARDS GOING TO THEIR BUNKERS WHILE ALL OF YOU SUFFER FROM STARVATION OR FROM DEHYDRATION. OBAMA DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE COMING POLE SHIFT, HE JUST HEARD RUMORS AND I'M SURE THAT HE HAS NO PLANS TO BETTER HIMSELF AFTER THE POLE SHIFT BUT TO ONLY AID AND ASSIST THOSE IN NEED.

MCCAIN KNOWS OF THE COMING POLE SHIFT AND THIS MEANS TROUBLE. ITS FUNNY HOW SOME PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR MCCAIN THIS NOVEMBER BUT THEN THEY INTEND YOUR DEATH AFTER THE POLE SHIFT FOR THOSE REMAINING THAT STILL SURVIVED.
I HAVE A FAMILY WITH 5 KIDS AND I FEEL LIKE I WILL BE IN DANGER EVEN IF I SURVIVE THE POLE SHIFT BECAUSE OF THE REPUBLICANS AND THEIR SPYING PROGRAM.

I ACTUALLY HAD A DREAM ABOUT THIS EXACT EVENT LAST NIGHT POTENTIALLY HAPPENING. THIS IS NO ACCIDENT AND IT FELT SO REAL. I WAS ALSO SHOWN JOHN MCCAIN AND PALIN TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT HOW TO CONTROL THE HUMAN POPULATION AND HOW TO WEED THEM OUT THROUGH VARIOUS DISEASES. FOR MY FAMILY AND YOUR FAMILY'S SAKE DON'T VOTE FOR THESE TWO FACE
IDIOTS. OBAMA IN MY DREAM WAS SHOWN AS A COMPASSIONATE MAN WHO LOOKED TO AID THOSE IN TROUBLE. THIS IS NO LIE.. AND IM NOT SAYING THIS JUST BECAUSE I LIKE ONE CANDIDATE OVER THE OTHER. IT WAS ACTUALLY SHOWN TO ME IN MY DREAM.

HAS ANY OF YOU HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES LIKE THIS IN THEIR DREAMS?

Posted by: Matt PhD in Psychology | September 18, 2008 1:44 PM

NOBAMA:

Maybe it wasn't in the print edition, but it was reported here on The Trail.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/aristocrat_who_favored_clinton.html

fake JakeD:

Or, perhaps you were referring to the type of "excellent relationship" Obama had with Jeremiah Wright?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:43 PM

Defenders of McCain: "McCain of course knew that Spain was in our hemisphere...the Northern hemisphere"

;-)

Posted by: cinnamonape | September 18, 2008 1:43 PM

My greatest wish at this time is to let current McCain voters to know that if we have a Republican controlled White House in these crucial next four years and if a disaster strikes whether they be a hurricane or a pole shift, that they will make Hurricane Katrina look like nothing compared to how they would treat humans during the pole shift and after. Absolutely no aid but declaring martial law for each state or contry hard hit by the shift which translates into giving up our guns for protection and a police state. The slow response from the government surrounding Hurricane Katrina was their attempt to declare martial law in New Orleans and 'take over' the state. Harmful thoughts was their primary focus.

If the Republicans can't declare martial law by their wish of a next terrorist attack (terror-wish) they will certainly declare martial law after the pole shift. This I worry greatly. Humans, primarily in the unconcious has the desire to support the dark agenda and feel that an experienced, stubborn, and violent candidate is 'suitable' for the job because they feel this is what defines politicians and needs a bully to feel safe from threats from other countries. People are forgetting that Republicans also consider citizens to be terrorists as well. Many McCain voters thinks that they would be safe from a McCain administration and yet this is actually the exact opposite in reality of their intention. Bush Administration wouldn't have proposed deadly chemtrails nor the deadly viruses which were all intended secretly against the human species. I'm looking forward to aiding many after the pole shift and hopefully many will too. Care to comment on this matter?

Posted by: Jim | September 18, 2008 1:41 PM

Thor:

Are you serious? You want the video clips of Barack HUSSEIN Obama getting which city he is in wrong? I belive that EVERY National politician has done that at least once ; )

fake JakeD:

Maybe you were referring to the type of "excellent relationship" Obama had with William Ayers?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:41 PM

You want news? Here's some that wasn't reported by the Post yesterday, HILLARY'S BIG MONEY BACKER HAS GONE OVER TO MCCAIN:

September 17, 2008

WASHINGTON — A top Hillary Rodham Clinton fundraiser threw her support behind Republican John McCain on Wednesday, saying he will lead the country in a centrist fashion and accusing the Democrats of becoming too extreme.

"I believe that Barack Obama, with MoveOn.org and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, has taken the Democratic Party _ and they will continue to _ too far to the left," Lynn Forester de Rothschild said. "I'm not comfortable there."

Rothschild is also a member of the Democratic National Committee's Platform Committee. She said she would be stepping down from her position on the committee but will not switch political parties.

Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand said in an e-mail that the New York senator disagrees with Rothschild's decision to endorse McCain.


HA HA HA HA! A HARBINGER OF THINGS TO COME!


LYNN FORESTER REPRESENTS THE DEMOCRATS ABROAD, SINCE SHE IS MARRIED TO ONE OF BRITAIN'S MOST ARISTOCRATIC FAMILIES, THE ROTHSCHILDS. HA HA HA HA! YUP-THOSE OF US DEMS. WHO CARE ABOUT THE COUNTRY AND KNOW WITHOUT QUESTION THAT OBAMA WILL BE DISASTROUS FOR THE COUNTRY, WILL ALL BE VOTING FOR MCCAIN-THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS!

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 18, 2008 1:40 PM

Sheunemann is right about one thing. I'm not concerned about Spain.

However, I am concerned that McCain would be so confused and, if it was intentional (as their spinning it)that it equally troublesome.

Next we'll be told it was a joke for McCain the gret joker.

I am convinced McCain is in the beginning stages of Alzheimers or something else that causes confusion. I've thought it ever since seeing him in the FLA primary.

I believe that is why Lieberman or Graham is at his side. Their role is to whisper in his ear, clarify, and protect him. I believe that is also why his campaign is keeping him away from the press. He may do some local interviews but not with the press people who know him best.

Their goal is to run out the clock, If the McCain-Palin farce prevails, we will see Palin as president before the end of 4 years.

Posted by: Sandy | September 18, 2008 1:38 PM

Can you hear the hissing? I thought it was McCain farting. Turns out it's the Palin bimbo-bubble deflating, even conservatives such as Brooks and Rove realize this:

"Palin stumbled out of the gate on arriving in Cedar Rapids. The Alaska governor told the audience that she was thrilled to be in “Grand Rapids,” the Michigan city where the campaign had just overnighted."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

My friends, tonight we are all Cedar Rapidians.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 1:38 PM

McCain is either becoming senile or he's dumber than a bag of rocks.


In McCain's bizarro world, Phil Gramm remains a trusted economic advisor and close personal friend. John McCain is entitled to choose his friends as he see fit. But politically, given Gramm's indisputable role in the unfolding economic meltdown, if McCain is serious about regaining any credibility at all, he must jettison the failed conservative ideology that landed us in this mess. McCain could at least start by immediately and publicly disavowing the corrupt influence of Phil Gramm.


Here's some straight-talk, my friends:
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHsuL6FfY4
.

Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 18, 2008 1:38 PM

edzo1:

Why do you think that our CURRENT President doesn't want to meet with Spain? Could it have something to do with Spain withdrawing support for the fight against terrorists? Unlike Gov. Palin, you ARE aware of the Bush Doctrine, right?

If Iran doesn't abide by UN Security Council resolutions, I hope that BUSH attacks.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:37 PM

Oh, and for the hair splitters, knowing what the office holder is called seems to me less important than knowing who is in the office.

Really? If you know WHO is in office, then you will generally know what office they HOLD-AND OBAMA IS IGNORANT ON ALL AND BOTH COUNTS. BUT IF YOU THINK IT IS "HAIR-SPLITTING" TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND A BIT ABOUT THE OFFICE ITSELF, THEN THAT JUST SHOWS YOUR UTTERLY AMEROCENTRIC ATTITUDE, AN INSUFFERABLY AMERICAN IGNORANCE ABOUT THE WORLD, THAT GETS ON THE REST OF TEH WORLD'S NERVES, THAT'S ALL.

Posted by: OBAMA IDIOTS ARE INSUFFERABLE LIKE HE IS | September 18, 2008 1:36 PM

The more you listen to McCain the more you realize he's losing his marbles.

Posted by: scott f. | September 18, 2008 1:36 PM

"Did anyone watch the Sean Hanutty interview of Palin?"

I actually did watch it. Softball, of course, but what really got me was that Palin didn't answer Sean when he asked her what, specifically, did she do to reform the government in Alaska.

SHE DID NOT ANSWER HIS SOFTBALL QUESTION!!!

Posted by: And a pit bull would make a better Vice President, too. That's TWO things. | September 18, 2008 1:35 PM

DEM. DUMMIES FOR OBAMA-NOT!:

Donald Trumpt too. As soon as McCain topped Obama in the polling, it became safer for lots of prominent Hillary supporters to make their second choice known.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/aristocrat_who_favored_clinton.html

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:34 PM

The transcript clearly shows that McCain was lost. He uses the exact same answer three times, and it reads as if he doesn't want to meet with Spain because he thinks they are part of some new axis of evil.

I cannot believe that more is not made of this. Either he got confused and couldn't figure out the difference between a European country and a Latin American country, or he sees Europe as the enemy.

Can anyone really imagine a McCain presidency? This man is trigger happy and ready to make up for our loss in Vietnam. How many months into his term before he starts a war with Iran?

Posted by: edzo1 | September 18, 2008 1:34 PM

Thor:

I don't watch Jon Stewart.

Eric:

LBJ didn't run for re-election.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:32 PM

MORE RELEASED ABOUT SARAH PALINS AFFAIR TODAY http://www.hotpres.com

EVEN MORE HAS COME OUT ABOUT TROOPER GATE
http://www.veeppeek.com

FIND OUT WHAT RON PAUL HAS SAID ABOUT SARAH PALIN.
http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:31 PM

AND THIS:

September 1, 2008:

Newsweek Exclusive: Top Clinton Supporter John Coale Endorses McCain

John Coale, a prominent Washington lawyer, husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren and a supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, announced today that he was supporting John McCain for president. Coale, who traveled with Sen. Clinton, President Clinton and her family through out the primary season, complained of sexism, and said the Democratic Party is "being taken over by the moveon.org types" in an exclusive interview with Newsweek.com's Tammy Haddad. He said he tried to prevent Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, from attending an August 18th meeting in Scranton, Pa. with McCain campaign surrogate Carly Fiorina. "I urged him not to go and told him it would embarrass his sister, but he has a mind of his own." Coale says Mr. Rodham asked Ms. Fiorina "about McCain's Supreme Court picks."


HA HA HA HA HA! YEAH, OBAMA'S REALLY GOING TO WIN-NOT! NOT EVEN WITH THE ECONOMY IN TURMOIL-IT WILL BE A LANDSLIDE FOR MCCAIN!

Posted by: DEM. DUMMIES FOR OBAMA-NOT! | September 18, 2008 1:31 PM

fake JakeD:

It is much more likely that John SIDNEY McCain III is sworn in as President on January 20, 2009. Are you saying that Obama has an "excellent relationship" like he and Larry Sinclair used to have?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:31 PM

JakeD,

That was funny indeed.
How about the Daily Show where the Straight Talk Express turned into the Circular Talk Express

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 1:31 PM

Attention Hillary Voters:
Vote for Obama and you will have DESTROYED Hillary's chance at
becoming President!!

Obama has already destroyed Hillary's chances for this time around. He
couldn't even do her the honor of making her VP.

Consider this:
If you elect Obama for 2008 , Hillary CAN'T RUN IN 2012!! The
incumbent always runs for their party in reelection.

Hillary will then be 69 when she gets a chance to run as democrat.
Then people will call her old(like they do McCain who is 72) and she
will NEVER become President.

Reagan was 69 when he got elected but he wasn't trying to break the
glass ceiling at the same time.

So if you care at all about Hillary, you will VOTE AGAINST Obama this
time around. Plus, you will break the glass ceiling and Hillary WILL
BE THERE in 2012!!

Think about it!! It makes sense!!

If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Eric | September 18, 2008 1:30 PM

I love it. The semi-official media (in the persons of Messrs. Kessler and O'Keefe) are going to go right on pretending that McCain was actually expressing a real policy -- when it's clear the old geezer had absolutely no clue who he had beenasked about.

Pravda-style "reporting" at its very best.

Posted by: Peter Principle | September 18, 2008 1:27 PM

http://cdn2.libsyn.com/americablog/mccainspainenglish.mp3?nvb=20080918142706&nva=20080919142706&t=0c49259f9274071bb2c5b

People defending McCain as knowing what he's talking about are silly. It's clear he didn't know who Zapatero is because he kept referring to this 'hemisphere.'

It's less problematic for me that he forgot in the moment who the leader of Spain was than that he refused to say 'whoops' when he messed the whole thing up.

You can tell by the interview he's said what he said not out of principle but out of confusion. I wish Republicans might put country first and admit when their candidate totally effs something up just as would be expected if Obama had said something so stupid or gotten so hilariously confused instead of making stuff up and inventing wonky, incoherent defenses. Of course if you're paid to troll the internets, you're going to make stuff up.

Oh, and for the hair splitters, knowing what the office holder is called seems to me less important than knowing who is in the office. Also, by the UN Charter the US can't interfere with entirely domestic matters of foreign countries. If Zapatero is really such a jerk, it has nothing to do with the US. They're a NATO ally for Christ's sake!

Posted by: in english | September 18, 2008 1:27 PM

You want news? Here's some that wasn't reported by the Post yesterday, HILLARY'S BIG MONEY BACKER HAS GONE OVER TO MCCAIN:

September 17, 2008

WASHINGTON — A top Hillary Rodham Clinton fundraiser threw her support behind Republican John McCain on Wednesday, saying he will lead the country in a centrist fashion and accusing the Democrats of becoming too extreme.

"I believe that Barack Obama, with MoveOn.org and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, has taken the Democratic Party _ and they will continue to _ too far to the left," Lynn Forester de Rothschild said. "I'm not comfortable there."

Rothschild is also a member of the Democratic National Committee's Platform Committee. She said she would be stepping down from her position on the committee but will not switch political parties.

Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand said in an e-mail that the New York senator disagrees with Rothschild's decision to endorse McCain.


HA HA HA HA! A HARBINGER OF THINGS TO COME!

Posted by: DEMS WON'T VOTE OBAMA | September 18, 2008 1:26 PM

IT'S A DAMN SHAME HRC IS NOT OUR DEM CANDIDATE

What's your point? Your right it is a shame but she's not. So make your pick... put a Democrat in office , which may or may not be the "change" you wanted but he is still a Democrat with the same view on issues you probably have as a Democrat or go with a Republican who's idea of "change" is just changing the body in the oval office and doesn't shre your views on most if not all of the issues you beleive in.

Posted by: Lance | September 18, 2008 1:25 PM

Who cares? McCain is down in all the polls. The Spanish PM knows McCain will never be President. The Spanish PM needs to be concerned with Obama. Something tells me they'll have an excellent relationship.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:25 PM

Thor:

Wasn't it hilarious when Cobert started telling "lies" about McCain, ending with "Straight Talker"?! Whatever else you guys think about me, I still have a sense of humor ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:19 PM

I just watched the Colbert Report. What's up?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:12 PM

The usual truthiness...

Posted by: scott032 | September 18, 2008 1:19 PM

Spain: bomb, bomb, bomb

Posted by: CaptainVideo | September 18, 2008 1:18 PM

d.rodriguez:

There's nothing inconsistent with the April statement. McCain is not "confused" about who the enemies are.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:18 PM

Republicans for Obama!

Posted by: AverageAmerican | September 18, 2008 1:18 PM

"There's nothing inconsistent with "This is the moment to leave behind discrepancies with Spain" or "I would like for [President Zapatero] to visit the United States. I am very interested not only in normalizing relations with Spain but in obtaining good and productive relations with the goal of addressing many issues and challenges that we have to confront together." The ball's in Zapatero's court."

JakeD - why does McCain need to "normalize" relations with a NATO ally?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:17 PM

JakeD, I just watched the show. What's up?

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 1:17 PM

Obama: "sure I'd like to meet with the President (sic) of Canada about the Free Trade Agreement...."

This, your Dem. candidate for President, chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Comm'tee no less, who didn't take not one damn trip anywhere to familiarize himself with the outside world, and doesn't even know what Canada's head of state is called-yeah, ONCE AGAIN IT'S A PRIME MINISTER, NOT A FREAKING PRESIDENT-DUMMY!!!

On the other hand, I've seen Hillary Clinton's pictures on the walls in Thai restaurants, in jewelry shops in India, in small villages in Nepal, in Morocco-EVERYWHERE-HRC AND BILL KNOW THE WORLD LIKE NOBODY.

Posted by: IT'S A DAMN SHAME HRC IS NOT OUR DEM CANDIDATE | September 18, 2008 1:13 PM

I just watched the Colbert Report. What's up?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 1:12 PM

"ELECTION 2008
Obama camp confirms troop pullout delay plan
Spokeswoman denies report; ends up affirming main claim"

That's Brilliant Scott. Are you still beating your wife?

Lets examine motive. You're quoting Iraqis who know that when McCain loses - they're out of business.

Posted by: Doofus H. Hornblow | September 18, 2008 1:11 PM

In April, McCain said that he would invite Zapatero to the White House--see article in El Pais:

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/Espana/hay/mirar/adelante/elpepuint/20080406elpepiint_2/Tes

El candidato presidencial republicano, John McCain, está dispuesto a cambiar la política de distanciamiento con el Gobierno español impuesta desde hace cuatro años por George Bush. Se declara partidario de normalizar plenamente las relaciones bilaterales y de que José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero sea invitado a la Casa Blanca. En una entrevista a bordo del avión que lo trasladaba desde Memphis, donde participó en los actos del 40º aniversario del asesinato de Martin Luther King, hasta su hogar en Phoenix, McCain declara que "es el momento de dejar atrás discrepancias con España" y añade: "Me gustaría que [el presidente Zapatero] visitara Estados Unidos. Yo estoy muy interesado, no sólo en normalizar las relaciones con España, sino en conseguir unas relaciones buenas y productivas con objeto de atender muchos asuntos y desafíos a los que tenemos que hacer frente juntos", afirma.

I believe Senator McCain is suffering from mental confusion--quite typical for someone his age.

D.

Posted by: d.rodriguez | September 18, 2008 1:11 PM

Hello Welcome to McSame May I take your order

Yes I'd 2 McWhoopers with a Blackberry shake and forgetful Freedom Fries agression sprinkled with Spain on the side.

I want Pig in Blanket and a cup of Question avoidance to go

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:10 PM

This is unbelievable. Not immediately agreeing to a willingness to meet with a leader of a NATO ally days after your ignorant VP claims that we may need to fight Russia as it relates to our NATO responsibilities disqualifies McCain to lead.

Are there any non-bible thumping, intelligent, conservatives with any understanding of international affairs that are going stand for this garbage?

MCCAIN ADVISER ACTUALLY SAID THIS:

"In this week's interview, Senator McCain did not rule in or rule out a White House meeting with President Zapatero, a NATO ally," he said in an e-mail. "If elected, he will meet with a wide range of allies in a wide variety of venues but is not going to spell out scheduling and meeting location specifics in advance. He also is not going to make reckless promises to meet America's adversaries. It's called keeping your options open, unlike Senator Obama, who has publicly committed to meeting some of the world's worst dictators unconditionally in his first year in office."

Posted by: obamacan | September 18, 2008 1:09 PM

McCain does not knwo where Spain is? In the hemisphere? Not surprising from someone who said Iraq and Pakistan share a border.
Foreign policy is supposed to be his strong suit. If that is all smoke and mirrors, what is he running on? No policy, negative campaign, on the wrong side of 70, inexperienced VP pick, wall street promoter when they have landed us in this huge mess, supporter of deregulation when some regulation would have stopped the greed and frenzy. Imagine what your retirement,health insurance would look like if you leave it to these "market forces".
McCain should quit the race and say:"I am wrong for this country".

Posted by: AJ | September 18, 2008 1:07 PM

McCain, like Hillary Clinton, understands Iran's intentions only too well. And for that reason alone, he should be elected.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:06 PM

Stupid comment. McCain was not siding with Basque terrorists or is for Basque independence. What I indicated is that Spain indeed is NOW (at this very moment) violating the human and democracy rights of INNOCENT Basques who are Spanish citizens. That they want to be a separate nation (a long time historical fact) is not a reason to "crack down" on the civil rights of the entire Basque community.

So what do the Obama followers really stand for? Oh, yeah. Anything to denigrate McCain with disgusting language and innuendo... aka Unprincipled Behavior.

Posted by: Ninch | September 18, 2008 1:05 PM

Joe Biden called Palin Lt Governor.

Biden is senile.

Obama said president maliki.

Obama said the leader of canada was the president of Canada.


McCain was simply avoiding the question because he didn't want to commit to a white house meeting.

The interviewer told McCain several times Zapatero was the leader of Spain. McCain stayed on the same message.


McCain was talking about his relationships with other leaders and how he works with some and doesn't work with others.

Posted by: Jeff | September 18, 2008 1:05 PM

McCain is probably just worried about the Spain/Iran border.

Posted by: drossless | September 18, 2008 1:02 PM

Off topic... What's new.

Did anyone watch the Sean Hanutty interview of Palin? I could only watch about 5 minutes, it was too close to dinner and I wanted to keep it down. It was sooooooooooo cute and touchy feely. Are they in love?

Posted by: El Buzz | September 18, 2008 1:01 PM

UH SORRY, OH IDIOTIC "GOOGLE HOUNDS" WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS! SIMPLY BECAUSE IN SPANISH, ZAPATERO IS CALLED "EL PRESIDENTE DEL GOVERNO" DOES NOT, REPEAT DOES NOT MEAN HE IS "THE PRESIDENT." LOOK ON HIS WIKIPEDIA ENTRY, AND YOU WILL SEE, HE IS THE PRIME MINISTER, WHICH IS A WHOLLY DIFFRERENT FUNCTION THAN A "PRESIDENT" IN SPAIN'S CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY FORM OF GOVT. THERE IS NO "PRESIDENT" WITH OVERARCHING POWERS ABOVE THE PRIME MINISTER IN SPAIN.

NOW AS TO ITALY, IT IS A DIFFERENT MATTER. SINCE I SPEAK FLUENT ITALIAN, I KINDA KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT THAT: SILVIO BERLUSCONI IS "IL PRESIDENTE DEL CONSIGLIO DEI MINISTRI"-WHICH TRANSLATES VERY SIMPLY TO "PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS" WHICH IS LIKE BRITAIN'S PRIME MINISTER, BECAUSE ITALY HAS A PARLIAMENTARY FORM OF GOVERNMENT. SILVIO BERLUSCONI IS REFERRED TO AS THE PRIME MINISTER BECAUSE IT IS EASIER AND ANALOGOUS. BERLUSCONI IS PRESIDENT OF THE PARLIAMENTARY BODY THAT GOVERNS ITALY-IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE "PRESIDENT" OF THE REPUBLIC ("PRESIDENTE DELLA REPUBBLICA") WHO IS GIORGIO NAPOLITANO. TO BE THE PRESIDENT IN ITALY IS AN OVERARCHING ROLE REPRESENTING NATIONAL UNITY, A ROLE WHICH IS ABOVE PARTY POLITICS- IT IS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE FUNCTION OF STATE IN ITALY, WHICH ITALY HAS, AND BRITAIN DOES NOT. SPAIN DOES NOT HAVE A PRESIDENT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT IS A MONARCHY, IT HAS A KING, RIGHT DUMMIEES?

SO I GUESS YOU "LEFT-WING" GOOGLE HOUNDS WILL JUST HAVE TO TRY A LITTLE HARDER NEXT TIME, OR BE CONTENT AS THE IGNORANT KNOW IT ALL NIT-WITS THAT YOU ARE, JUST LIKE 99 PERCENT OF AMERICANS ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS!

Posted by: EUROPEAN PARLIAMENTARY HEADS OF STATE FOR DUMMIES | September 18, 2008 1:00 PM

McCain didn´t know who Zapatero is - and this lack of knowledge reminds on Bush - before becoming President -

Posted by: Angelika | September 18, 2008 12:59 PM

There's nothing inconsistent with "This is the moment to leave behind discrepancies with Spain" or "I would like for [President Zapatero] to visit the United States. I am very interested not only in normalizing relations with Spain but in obtaining good and productive relations with the goal of addressing many issues and challenges that we have to confront together." The ball's in Zapatero's court.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:58 PM

No hablo espanol.

Pigs can fly and wear lipstick at http://www.boppoll.com. With the amount of stress out there, the meters should really start spinning at this real-time poll. I need a humor break. Spain will live.

Posted by: RStone | September 18, 2008 12:58 PM

Great bit about McCain refusing to come on the show (although McCain's been on Jon Stewart like 40 times ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:56 PM

Real democrats will never vote for the old man and the bimbo!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:55 PM

I am seriously concerned about the state of health of John McCain, his gaffs may make some laugh, comments such as the inventor of the blackberry? but this latest about Spain, questions is this man Fit to be the next President of the USA and to lead for 4 years. When McCain openly admits he knows little about finance and has a woman by his side, who may have fooled a few just because she was a woman! but look at her weird beliefs and judgements made as governor, more and more comes out about her daily but she has appeared from no where, are you willing to vote her as a possible President???

Posted by: jaybs | September 18, 2008 12:55 PM

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: Julie | September 18, 2008 12:53 PM

wiliam:

I think it's reasonable to assume that McCain-Palin will continue most (but not all) of the Bush-Cheney policies.

If anyone else (with the "courage" to at least pick a pseudonym) has any more questions for me, please feel free to ask.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:52 PM

JakeD i didn't see it last night. I'll watch it now online. Why?

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 12:51 PM

JakeD you need to get a job and get out of your mom's basement....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:48 PM

if you actually listen to the interview you will probably hear what i did - McCain was exhausted! This is possibly why he has grown less coherent over the course of the camaign. Electoral campaigns are gruelling.
In fact possibly the only thing more exhausting is actually being President of the U.S. !
Are so many people really willing to take the chance that he is up to it?!

Posted by: drinal | September 18, 2008 12:48 PM

Cala:

It matters because not every voter knows his middle yet.

Thor:

Did you watch the Colbert Report last night?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:46 PM

If there was any doubt in anyone's mind that McCain would continue Bush's policies this is a perfect example. It is utterly rediculous for heads of nations to hold grudges against other nations. That is why we enjoy such poor reputation internationally.

Posted by: wiliam | September 18, 2008 12:44 PM

hey Exaperated...
In Spain the first minister is also known like the president of the congress..in Italy the first minister is known like the "presidente della camera" which means congress...A future president of the USA should know that right?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:41 PM

P.S. And as usual, Post, you're getting all wrapped around the axle trying to prove McCain doesn't know what he's talking about, and just EXACTLY LIKE WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IRAN ARMING AL-QAEDA, AND ANSWERED THAT CORRECTLY UNTIL THE NITWIT LIEBERMAN TOLD HIM THAT WASN'T CORRECT, WHERE LIEBERMAN, NOT MCCAIN, WAS THE ONE WHO WASN'T CORRECT-HERE AGAIN, WITH THIS SPAIN FLAP, WITH NEITHER THE REPORTER WHO INTERVIEWED HIM NOR YOU POST CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRESIDENT AND A PM -MCCAIN GOT IT RIGHT-HE ANSWERED CORRECTLY!

Posted by: TALK ABOUT DUMMIES-LOOK IN THE MIRROR, POST! | September 18, 2008 12:41 PM

"THERE IS NO "PRESIDENT" ZAPATERO POST-YOU WRITE IT CORRECTLY AS "PRIME MINISTER" AND THEN YOU SAY "PRESIDENT" "

Check out his website:

http://www.la-moncloa.es/Presidente/Biografia/default.htm

Looks like it's standard to call him "presidente."

Why do rightwingers stick to claims that are so easily disproved on teh Google?

Posted by: castanea | September 18, 2008 12:40 PM

Maybe the Prime Minister of Spain told McCain he doesn't believe he invented the blackberry, and McCain was insulted.

Posted by: Mac | September 18, 2008 12:38 PM

Actually John McCain stated it correctly in that he would meet with the people who work with us. Spain turned against America with the election of the current President who ran on a campaign of anti-americanism. The few Spainish troops in Afganistan sit on a base and do not fight at all. The southern part of Spain is owned mostly by families out of Saudi Arabia where they have spent billions in trying to get the Spainish to become Muslims again with great success one gathers from reports.
So, even though Spain is a part of the EU and NATO member they are still anti-american. King Carlos knew this problem was coming and visited Washington to ensure that America kept the Madrid Air Force Base and Rota Naval Base open as we employ thousands of Spainish people.

Posted by: Gene44 | September 18, 2008 12:37 PM

JakeD what you don't get is that Steve Colbert is using sarcasm to prove his point, which is the republicans are bad for this country, they can win elections but they can't govern.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:36 PM

UH, TRAIL, YOU WROTE THIS: He added: "I would like for [President Zapatero] to visit the United States.

THERE IS NO "PRESIDENT" ZAPATERO POST-YOU WRITE IT CORRECTLY AS "PRIME MINISTER" AND THEN YOU SAY "PRESIDENT" AND THEN THE DUMB ASS REPORTER APPARENTLY ALSO SAYS "PRESIDENT OF SPAIN" -WRONG! PRIME MINISTER ZAPATERO-LOOKS LIKE MCCAIN ISN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO IS CONFUSED, NOW IS HE, POST?

Posted by: exasperated at the nitwits-obama, mccain who don't know a president from a prime minister! | September 18, 2008 12:36 PM

Oh Good Grief, here we go again. This is much like the tortured contortions that the Press went through trying to make sense of Palin being unable to respond to Gibson's question to her regarding her position on the Bush Doctrine. Occam's Razor - the simplest answer is usually the correct answer. McCain was unable to respond, because he was confused by the question. He did not recognize to whom the interviewer was referring. Can this man and his Campaign staff just admit to a mistake? If not, we certainly don't want him in office, don't you think?

Posted by: CarolBG | September 18, 2008 12:36 PM

Here is the transcript of the interview. Whatever conclusion you come to it's not a good one.

QUESTION: Senator, finally, let's talk about Spain. If you're elected president, would you be willing to invite President Jose Luiz Rodriguez Zapatero to the White House to meet with you?

MCCAIN: I would be willing meet, uh, with those leaders who our friends [sic] and want to work with us in a cooperative fashion, and by the way, President Calderon of Mexico is fighting a very very tough fight against the drug cartels. I'm glad we are now working in cooperation with the Mexican government on the Merida plan. I intend to move forward with relations, and invite as many of them as I can, those leaders, to the White House.

QUESTION: Would that invitation be extended to the Zapatero government, to the president itself?

MCCAIN: I don't, you know, honestly I have to look at relations and the situations and the priorities, but I can assure you I will establish closer relations with our friends and I will stand up to those who want to do harm to the United States of America.

QUESTION: So you have to wait and see if he's willing to meet with you, or you'll be able to do it in the White House?

MCCAIN: Well again I don't, all I can tell you is that I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us, and standing up to those who are not, and that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America, and the entire region.

QUESTION: Okay... what about you, I'm talking about the President of Spain?

MCCAIN: What about me what?

QUESTION: Okay... are you willing to meet with him if you are elected president?

MCCAIN: I am willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom, and I will stand up to those that do not.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 12:34 PM

The old man was visibly shaken yesterday, when in Michigan, he visited a manufacturing planet, where he read a card talking about making Michigan the leader in the auto industry again.
That, after saying, jobs were never coming back!
The problem for the campaign was, the people working there began taunting McCain, "OBAMA 08, OBAMA 08, OBAMA 08", with their buttons, t shirts and stickers, all for Obama.
The old man almost had a fit. Can you imagine how mad he was when he got out of there, I'll bet he called Cindy a cu*t again and hit her!
Hey, why is she always hurt. She has that look of an injured and shocked abused woman all the time.
The man is a misogynist of epic proportions.
Hey, ever hear the one about the ape who raped a woman, and then the woman tries to find the ape, to get raped again!
Yha'll that's one of McCain's fav's. Oh, how about his comments on Chelsea Clinton's looks, Janet Reno being her mother!
Oh, McLame is hilarious!

Posted by: Kari | September 18, 2008 12:34 PM

Scott, the WDN story actually contradicts itself and proves that Obama was doing as he said. He doesn't say for them to delay negotiations, just not to rush into a SOFA which puts them in a weak position. He also was advocating against actions by Bush taken in the name of making the Republican Party look better rather than in being fair to both countries. You have to admit it's been a pretty quick adjustment on troop levels needing to stay as they are, then in only 20-30 days changes to being able to extract 2 BCT's and a battalion of Marines.

Posted by: Shawn | September 18, 2008 12:33 PM

There is a 30-40% chance (based on actuarial tables) that McCain will not survive a first term if he is elected which leads us to the following...
When a significant hurricane is imminent, the number one reason residents give when asked why they are not evacuating is their faith that God will take care of them (like wind and rising water don't matter). Palin supports teaching intelligent design alongside the scientific theory of evolution in schools. How confusing for young minds! We have students believing that God created people in his own image when all the evidence points to our evolving from apes. The older generation may have been hoodwinked into believing the unproven fantasy of creationism, but today's generation can find out the truth in 20 minutes (by properly researching on the internet). It's time for religious leaders to give up the hoax and to stop corrupting the next generation. It is frightening to think that someone (Palin), who does not make a distinction between fantasy and reality, could be elected to any position in our government. Wake up, America!

Posted by: don | September 18, 2008 12:32 PM

JakeD, To compare Obama's single slip of the tongue saying 57 states to McCain's repeated errors and outright lies on the trail is ludicrous. McCain has confused Shia and Sunni several times(even after he was corrected). Guess what. There's a war on in which it is necessary to know about such things.

Now he appears not to know who is a NATO ally even when prompted several times. Plus, interviewed by reporters, he has denied saying things that there is tape of him saying, and he still lies. I don't know if he is senile or what, but he should not be in charge.

As for your capitalization of Obama's middle name, this matters because?????

Posted by: Cala | September 18, 2008 12:32 PM


So let's look at what happened here. Either McCain forgot who the Spanish Prime minister was, or he is offering four more years of Bush's failed foreign policy.

Four more years of America refusing to work with our allies in Europe.

Four more years of your either with us or against us.

And by the way we'll invade Russia if need be.

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Posted by: el_barto | September 18, 2008 12:30 PM

The increasing number of McCain's mental lapses underscore the need for him to release ALL of his medical records.

Posted by: JohnK | September 18, 2008 12:30 PM

Why does the auther of this article say "...anti-American leaders of Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba"?

These guys aren't anti-American, they are anti-right-wing-imperialism, popular leaders elected in democratic elections. They are anti Bush and anti-Republican.

Posted by: Middle of the Road | September 18, 2008 12:29 PM

Q. Mr. McCain, what do you think about Gordon Brown?
A. I'm glad that African Brits are in high government positions. Just shows how much progress they have made.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 12:28 PM

i think mccain just misheard what the interviewer was asking, and i say cut him some slack in that aspect because she was constantly asking about latin america: immigration, miami-cuba relations, chavez, etc. when she brought up spain, quite casually with no transition, he simply misheard. big deal. he'll clarify his position on Spain.

what IS of concern is that he precisely proved in this interview that he DOESN'T know much about Latin American affairs. when the interviewer asked about Bolivia, she was referring to the standoff between the central government (Morales) and the secessionist provinces who oppose him (um, sound like a recent war you've hear about?). mccain just stuck to the notion than Morales=Chavez rather than express whether or not he extends his "we're all georgians" policy to other countries facing similar problems.

Posted by: against the DLC | September 18, 2008 12:28 PM

McCain would continue Bush policies, IF ONLY HE COULD REMEMBER WHAT THEY ARE!
John Kyl (Tx-r), said, that he's pretty sure, "McCains cancer is in remission".
I don't know about you, but the actuaries say, that a 72 yr old, only has a 12-16% chance of living for 4 years!
Now, given that he's in REMISSION AGAIN for MELANOMA, which is nearly fatal the first time, I myself, would not DREAM of voting for Palin for president.
That is exactly what you're doing if you vote for McCain.
McSame and The Pain! Dumb and Dumber
Oh, and their town halls, just like Bush, YOU HAVE TO BE A REAL SUPPORTER TO GET IN! IT'S CHEERLEADING AT IT'S FINEST.

Posted by: David | September 18, 2008 12:27 PM

Ninch,

on second thought, maybe you are right, he was siding with ETA.
After all it maybe he found he should share Palin's love for the secretion ideas of the Independent Party of Alaska...

Sort of the same idea, que no!?

Posted by: firehorse66 | September 18, 2008 12:27 PM

Boy oh boy an old fart (72)with signs of dementia and with 4 cases of cancer and a bimbo running for the highest office, God help us all, republicans and democrats and indipendents

Posted by: color blind | September 18, 2008 12:26 PM

my middle name is Jesus so what?

First, you are not running for President. Second, I am glad you know Obama's middle name. Some of those reading my posts may not.

P.S. to Thor: did you watch the Colbert Report last night?! His show will be the one silver lining in the unlikely event Barack HUSSEIN Obama gets elected.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:26 PM

Seriously...Watch McCain's interviews -- he has to stick to the script and sometimes he can't even get that right...his mental acuity is not all it should be ... and it seems to be getting precipitiously worse in the last few months. Obama would get hammered for bringing this up but voters ought to really think about it.

Posted by: AJ | September 18, 2008 12:24 PM

Hey JakeD do you really think that we give a f&*k that Sen. Obama middle name is Hussein? How childish and idiotic!

Posted by: my middle name is Jesus so what? | September 18, 2008 12:22 PM

McCain is dangerous. Either he was forgetting easy stuff and exhibiting symptoms of Alzheimers (Spain is an ally in NATO) or he is foolishly antagonizing our friends and allies. Take your pick.

Posted by: Another Luke | September 18, 2008 12:22 PM

I just OWNED some n00bs on StarCraft! Can I be the defense secretary?!

Posted by: DefensePalin | September 18, 2008 12:21 PM

McCain justified his criticism of Zapatero because he refused to participate in a Town Hall style meetings with him.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM


McCain like totally forgot who that Spanish dude was!!


PEOPLE, HE'S OLD!!!

Or are you REALLY suggesting that McCain isn't going to meet with the Spanish Prime Minister.

And I bet that Gordon Brown has got something coming to him as well! He'll teach them. he'll teach ALL of them.

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Posted by: el_barto | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM

boryuch somebody said:


Yes, James, and Barack HUSSEIN Obama really thinks we have 57 States ; )

its not 57 is60 if u see the video again he said "so far 57 but i havent been to 2 and one more to go so thats 60!!!!!!!

Clearly you are a racists of epic proportions, which is fine.
But, Obama said, there were 57 PRIMARIES, and their were. Dem's actually let people in places like Guam, Puerto Rico, etc vote in the primaries.
That's your reasoning! Sounds like Israel is the place for you! Bye now, have a nice day!

Posted by: Mike Hussein Davies | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:17 PM

The old gezer has lost his mind. he has sold his soul to the devil, via, Karl Rove, and lost all self-respect while doing it.
When people say, "The McCain of 2000 wouldn't recognize the McCain of 2008", they are correct!
Crimany, I was going to vote for him in 2000!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/mccain-meant-to-reject-sp_n_127449.html

He is now a laughing stock

Posted by: Andrea D | September 18, 2008 12:16 PM

funny how you manage not to mention that it was obvious to anyone who listens that mccain had NO IDEA who the interviewer was talking about, and immediately spoke of the "hemisphere" and "latin america," clearly thinking that spain was in latin america.

the MSM covers for mccain once again.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:15 PM

I hope you guys and gals are NOT electing McCain and Palin tothe highest office on the Planet. If you do, I have an excuse to go back home, where another idiot (Berlusconi) is in charge. But at least I will be able to vote there and try to kick him out of power, here I have to rely on the good sense of others...

Posted by: An Italian in America | September 18, 2008 12:15 PM

Ninch,

are you trying to suggest that McCain was defending the ETA?
That is just stupid!! STUPID!

The ETA is considered a Terrorist-organization.
The USA is the last country to side with "separatist" of any kind.

It's clear McCain lost all his marbles, period.

Posted by: firehorse66 | September 18, 2008 12:11 PM

Yes, James, and Barack HUSSEIN Obama really thinks we have 57 States ; )

its not 57 is60 if u see the video again he said "so far 57 but i havent been to 2 and one more to go so thats 60!!!!!!!

Posted by: boruch yona loriner | September 18, 2008 12:11 PM

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ELECTION 2008
Obama camp confirms troop pullout delay plan
Spokeswoman denies report; ends up affirming main claim

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Posted: September 16, 2008
12:45 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

The Obama campaign issued an angry denial to a report yesterday that the Democratic presidential candidate privately urged Iraqi leaders to delay U.S. troop withdrawals, but the statement essentially confirmed the story.

Responding to a column by Iranian-born analyst Amir Taheri in the New York Post, Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi insisted Obama "has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades."

But in the same statement, Morigi said Obama had told the Iraqis they should not rush through a "Strategic Framework Agreement" governing the future of U.S. troops until after President Bush leaves office, the Associated Press reported.

Further, according to the New York Times in a report on June 16, Obama himself has confirmed his actions.

Recalling his meeting with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama said in the Times report, "My concern is that the Bush administration, in a weakened state politically, ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next adminsitration, whether it's my administration or Senator McCain's administration. The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that's currently made."

Zebari had confirmed in the report that Obama "asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the U.S. elections and the formation of a new administration."

In his column, Taheri wrote about the meeting between Zebari and Obama, in which Obama urged a delay in the withdrawal of American forces.

Taheri states Obama insisted it was in Iraq's best interest to avoid an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

That private position would be a stark contrast to Obama's public record.

"The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops," Obama said last year at a university in Iowa. "Not in six months or one year – now."

In January of last year, Obama offered legislation on the floor of the Senate called the Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007, which called for troop withdrawals to begin in May 2007 and to conclude by March 2008.

And in his New York Times editorial released the same month the senator toured the Middle East, Obama wrote, "The call by Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki for a timetable for the removal of American troops from Iraq presents an enormous opportunity. We should seize this moment to begin the phased redeployment of combat troops that I have long advocated."

Taheri reported that Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's advisers wonder if Obama is privately working to delay troop withdrawal until after the election in order to claim credit – should Obama win the presidency – for ending the war.

"Indeed, say Talabani's advisers," reports Taheri, "a President Obama might be tempted to appropriate the victory that America has already won in Iraq by claiming that his intervention transformed failure into success."

The Obama campaign has not responded to WND's request for a response to the Post column.

Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008 12:11 PM

Chris:

I supposed you also think George Bush is "almost disqualified" from being President because he feels the same, exact way?

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:10 PM

Yes, James, and Barack HUSSEIN Obama really thinks we have 57 States ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:08 PM

"McCain has serious mental problems. He is unfit for the presidency. His continuation in the race is proof that he does not care about the future of the United States.

McCain needs to be removed from his position as the Republican candidate for president. He is a danger to himself and to the rest of us."
hey hes a great man weather u agree with him politically or not dont say that bout him hes givin more for this country than ur whole family and all ur friends together!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: boruch yona loriner | September 18, 2008 12:08 PM

Fransisco Franco? Wait a minute! Isn't it the brand of shoes McCain wears? Maybe he thought the question was about shoes and he was just saying that he doesn't really like Zapatero shoes.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 12:08 PM

Anyone pretending to think that McCain cares about Basque separatists is either dishonest or deluded.

Sheunemann is clearly saying what he has to, even though it suggests a dangerous intensification of Bush's petulant and isolating "with us or against us" approach to supposed allies.

McCain's alleged foreign policiy expertise is a hoax: he confusedly babbles any thought that passes through his mind without paying attention to what he's saying.

Remember, this is the man who doesn't know a Sunni from a Shia, and repeatedly referred to Putin as the President of Germany.

Posted by: James | September 18, 2008 12:07 PM

...and Generalissimo Fransisco Franco is still dead.

Posted by: John Quimby | September 18, 2008 12:03 PM

Ninch,
Of course,that's it! How could we possibly forget the Bush administration's deep and longstanding commitment to the Basque people?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:01 PM

It's a tragic comedy either way. While it is no sin to not recognize the name "Zapatero" upon first hearing it, the interviewer gently nudged him in the right direction several times and the fire never lit in McCain's brain that she was talking about the country Spain in Europe, not some tin pot dicator in the Latin America of McCain's youth. That speaks to his inability to process information.

On the other hand, if he really, really meant what he said, that is even MORE scary because regardless of internal politics, Spain is still an ally and fellow NATO member with whom we must work with DAILY to track down terrorists. It's almost disqualifying.

Posted by: Chris | September 18, 2008 12:01 PM

One of Al Jolson's biggest Broadway hits was "The Spaniard Who Blighted My Life." Chances are that's how McCain (who might have heard Jolson on the radio in the late 1940s; Jolson died in 1950) is describing Zapatero right now.

One wonders how this will resonate with some parts of the American electorate, for whom "Spanish cuisine" is choosing between a gordita and a chalupa at the Taco Bell drive-through window.

Posted by: VPaterno | September 18, 2008 12:00 PM

As the great Republican neocon Dan Quayle said,
"What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:58 AM

McCain has serious mental problems. He is unfit for the presidency. His continuation in the race is proof that he does not care about the future of the United States.

McCain needs to be removed from his position as the Republican candidate for president. He is a danger to himself and to the rest of us.

Posted by: Revolver Trooper Palin | September 18, 2008 11:57 AM

Without any reservation, most if not all Europeans do not want a McCain presidency.

I have worked within the Organization for Security and Cooperation In Europe (OSCE) seconded by the US State Department in missions in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo and most consider McCain a poor substitute for Bush, which they HATE.

If Americans wish to restore some credence with the Europeans, then McCain is not the guy.

I saw the blip about Zapatero and one might assume McCain will be eating "baby food" sometime into his next term or thereafter.

Posted by: Overseas | September 18, 2008 11:56 AM

I know you McCain bashers will not admit such, but don't you feel STUPID for not knowing about Spain's "crackdown" (read violations of human rights, democracy, and freedom) against the Basque people?

Posted by: Ninch | September 18, 2008 11:55 AM

No Brain McCain
Always the same
We'll feel the pain
'cause this guy is lame

Posted by: Roy | September 18, 2008 11:53 AM

McBush just went in his diaper again. Who's turn is it to clean him up.

Posted by: Poopy Pants | September 18, 2008 11:52 AM

You can put lipstick on a por que, it's still a por que.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 11:51 AM

Have not any of you been paying attention to Spain's treatment of the Basque people?

For example "Spain's Supreme Court has banned a party in the country's Basque region because of its links to armed separatists ETA, the court's head said on Tuesday (Sept. 16).

The previous week "The Spanish Supreme Court has declared a proposed referendum on independence in the Basque Country invalid. The judges said that only the Spanish government could arrange such a referendum...The Basque leader is appealing this decision to the European Court of Human Rights."

Further... "Twenty one Basque separatists were each jailed on Wednesday for between 8-10 years after being found guilty by a Spanish court of belonging to the ETA guerrilla group.

Those jailed, who had denied being ETA members, had been active in lobby groups Gestoras Pro-Amnistia and Askatasuna, which campaigned for hundreds of imprisoned ETA activists. The High Court also banned the groups in its ruling. Spanish authorities have cracked down on Basque separatists since the collapse of peace talks with ETA at the end of 2006."

Posted by: Ninch | September 18, 2008 11:51 AM

When McCain heard the question that ended in "President of Spain" he thought he heard "President McCain" to which he responded "What about me, what?". Earlier when she said Zapatero's full name it is highly accented and very hard to understand for a non-Spanish speaker. He simply didn't understand what she was saying - obviously. Let's not pretend this is more meaningful than that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:48 AM

Trish,

The Chukot region is not a member of CIS. It's part of Russia about the size of Texas with a population of 55,000.

I looked into Chukot and saw a moose's ass. Gives you a whole new perspective on foreign affairs.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 11:47 AM

I know a few Spanish words and phrases. Can I be Juan McCain's ambassador to Spain ?

Si se puede !

Posted by: MA | September 18, 2008 11:47 AM

Does John McCain have Alzheimer's?

His poor judgement calls, and inability to connect the dots is part of the symptoms of the onset of that disease.

It would also explain why everyone next to him is covering it up; they are all enablers and co-dependents.

If this is true, and it looks more like it every day; he is definately not the person to put in charge of the most powerful nation in the world.

Posted by: Michael D. Houst | September 18, 2008 11:47 AM

Sheunemann is definitely the official campaign ventriloquist. He's getting laughs with his answers, but he needs a smarter dummy. This would be comic relief is the country wasn't going down the toilet. Lets vote now and end the madness of this pathetic campaign.

Posted by: maxfli | September 18, 2008 11:46 AM

Go HAGEL Go Hagel

Posted by: Living in the Midwest | September 18, 2008 11:45 AM

This report appears to hew to the premise that McCain knew who Zapatero is. It's a premise that isn't beyond challenge.

The old boy claims to have more experience with foreign affairs than almost everyone else in the final foursome. (This comparative claim to paramount experience doesn't extend to Biden.)

About the kindest interpretation an American can take away from this report is that the geezer's simply having a few memory problems, as can be expected of someone his age.

What a sinking sensation this report provokes!

Posted by: First Mouse | September 18, 2008 11:45 AM

I just looked up and saw the sky. Can i be an astronaut?

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 11:45 AM

cdgainesville: YUO hit the nail on the head. He is from the bottom of his class,and seems to have no idea where Spain is or is it whether they're our allies, great foreign policy... and she went to 5 colleges before she managed to graduate and thinks she can see Russia from Alaska, that would be Chukot, a member of CIS.
OH BTW-RobL: her foreign plicy experience is stated above in my previous comment. No joke. Nuff said.

Posted by: Trish | September 18, 2008 11:43 AM

WASHINGTON - Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party's vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a "stretch" to say she's qualified to be president.

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"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."

Could Palin lead the country if GOP presidential nominee John McCain could not?

"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said.

Ah truth!

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM

And I thought Palin was the joke on the ticket! Turns out, they both are!

Posted by: tom | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM

To treat Spain the same way we treat Russia is absurd! Even if they were a threat to us we should be speaking to them. McCain wants to bully them to behave the way he wants. Bullies get into fights and fights mean war, The war won't be started by us but by the other country (not specifically Spain) but the bully does not appear to cause it, he forces the opposition to attack but war is the same result. McCain says he does not like war but he behaves like someone who does. Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 18, 2008 11:40 AM

There really isn't any way out of this for McCainites. Zapatero's political views are immaterial; he's a left-of-center European, so obviously American conservatives, like Spanish conservatives, would strongly disagree with him, on Iraq and other issues.

The point is that Spain is a 100% democratic country, one of our allies, in the European Union and a member of NATO.

If I listen to the interview McCain sounds evasive and confused, but that's my subjective judgment. What's not at issue is that - as Scheunemann confirms - McCain is lumping him together with virulently anti-American Chavez and Morales, rather than where he belongs, with European allies like Sarkozy, Merkel and Brown.

What if McCain spoke about the leaders of France or Germany in the same tones?

Unbelievable, that anyone thinks this guy still has expertise on foreign policy. Incipient dementia is actually a more charitable explanation than the alternative.

Posted by: simonbuc | September 18, 2008 11:40 AM

Senator Chuck Hegel (R) this morning stated that calling Palin "qualified" is "a stretch".

"I mean, come on, she is just getting her first passport?"

Truthiness......:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 11:39 AM

dunnhaupt...this country re-elected Bush knowing what a dope, liar, incompetent fool he is. Does that answer your question?

Posted by: jill | September 18, 2008 11:39 AM

Just consider the typical Presidential news conference, where a President must give informed answers to hundreds of questions on all kinds of subjects, dates, names, numbers, and details before dozens of bright and informed international jounalists. Then consider a clueless McCain standing there, stumbling and stuttering nonsense like Putin being President of Germany or not knowing the difference between Slavonia, Slovenia, and Slovakia.

Has everybody in America lost their mind to even consider this befuddled senior citizen and that gun-toting cultist, or are they all racists?

Posted by: dunnhaupt | September 18, 2008 11:37 AM

How can this even be understood or excused? McCain is pressing for adding Georgia and Ukraine to NATO, so that we will be committed to their military defense against a nuclear armed nation, yet can't commit to meeting with the leader of one of NATO's members? This is foreign policy expertise? C'mon, it's a frigging joke on every level. This guy is too dangerously unaware to be anywhere near the Presidency.

Posted by: The Third Policeman | September 18, 2008 11:35 AM

"I'm willing to meet with any leader who is dedicated to the same principles and philosophy that we are for human rights, democracy and freedom and I will stand up to those who are not."

I swear, it's like his staff downloads his campaign talking points into his brain. And then when a question doesn't fit into those broad categories, he says whatever talking point is most readily available.

This is SPAIN. Do you really not know whether Spain is for human rights, democracy, and freedom?

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | September 18, 2008 11:35 AM

Patriot3, LOL - now, THATS funny!

"Zapatero?

McCain just misunderstood.

McCain thought they were talking about Zapato who McCain fought against in the 1910 Mexican Revolution."

Posted by: Donny | September 18, 2008 11:34 AM


Zapatero ?

a) Mexican helicopter
b) An illegal immigrant with shoes
c) blank
d) still blank

Posted by: ratl | September 18, 2008 11:33 AM

A very confused old man

Posted by: Polaris | September 18, 2008 11:33 AM

To me it sounded like he was just sticking to his bland talking points. In other words, he didn't say anything.

http://www.politicswithagrin.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Kristen | September 18, 2008 11:32 AM

This type of behavior from McCain should bother many Americans. If McCain is not willing to meet with the Spanish Prime Minister (a NATO ally), then Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China are in for a BIG surprise.

The military DRAFT will be instituted under McCain the way he sounds!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 18, 2008 11:32 AM

what the heck? He is willing to stand up to our enemies, the Spaniards?

Posted by: oscars2212 | September 18, 2008 11:30 AM

Zapatero a friend of the U.S.? And ally?

That must be a joke!!!

- He has close ties with Fidel Castro.
- He has sold combat ships to Hugo Chavez.
- He has secretly negotiated with ETA, the Baque terrorist gang that routinely kills Spaniards.

And if you think the U.S. government is corrupt, you should visit Spain and take a look at the astonishing number of corruption scandals in Spain.

And if you think the U.S. economy is in tatters, you move to Spain and try to find a job over there.

Posted by: Scooby | September 18, 2008 11:29 AM

Someone restrain Senator McCain before he hurts himself.

Posted by: Donny | September 18, 2008 11:29 AM

Zapatero?

McCain just misunderstood.

McCain thought they were talking about Zapato who McCain fought against in the 1910 Mexican Revolution.

Posted by: Patriot3 | September 18, 2008 11:28 AM

Teh Obama campaign should come out witha statement saying they support strong relationships with NATO allies

Posted by: Sarah | September 18, 2008 11:28 AM

My friends, when I was a POW in the Spanish camp one Christmas night Jose, the camp guard, drew a picture of a blackberry on the sand. Since then I always dreamed of getting a blackberry for Christmas but never got it. Eventually, I invented it to stick it to them Mexicans.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 11:24 AM

McCain has foreign policy expertise to die for...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2v8cuQTVO8&feature=related

that you may die for

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:24 AM

McCain answered a question about Spain by saying he would stand up to our enemies in Latin America?
And his campaign says this was intentional?

We must be living in cuckoo land. As Rudy Giuliani says, this could only happen in America.


Posted by: Mary | September 18, 2008 11:24 AM


I've never understood why repubes want to bomb anyone who doesn't "share Ameican ideals." Of course, by "American ideals" they only mean "the right-wing platform" but that's not even the worst of it.

The people of Spain are Spaniards, not Americans. They are entitled to Spanish ideals, Francs have French ideals.

btw- the joke about "President Bush has never forgiven Zapatero for pulling troops out of Iraq shortly after his victory in 2004" is HILARIOUS!!!! Get it! The war is still going on four years later!!

Posted by: Victory? | September 18, 2008 11:24 AM

I read the transcript repeatedly in both English and Spanish.

This was not a gaffe. McCain appears to be suffering from some kind of mental illness.

Posted by: Marie | September 18, 2008 11:24 AM

What a joke!

The MSM should now challenge their pre-conceived notion that Grampy McSame knows foreign policy better.

Or maybe Grampy got all Alzheimer's on us and thought that Generalisimo Franco was still in charge???

Posted by: Victor Shaw | September 18, 2008 11:23 AM

if this preposterous explanation is to be believed, then apparently mr mccain fancies himself an arbiter of whether a country is a democracy or not based on whether they sent troops to iraq.

mccain didnt know who zapatero was, and assumed he was head of interchangeable south american country X.

Posted by: mike | September 18, 2008 11:23 AM

Nice try, Randy. So McCain was unwilling to commit to a White House meeting with Zapatero whose country he repeatedly suggested was in Latin America.

His gaffe was so obvious, how can anyone explain it away?

Posted by: ChrisL1 | September 18, 2008 11:22 AM

There is NO WAY I am going to vote for Dumb & Dumber!

Posted by: ksdksdksd | September 18, 2008 11:20 AM

Are there seriously people defending McCain on this?! As I look at the comments below, I see people saying 'yay, Spain's President is socialist or too far left or whatever, so of course McCain is right not to meet with him!' Good grief! This is an ally in our war on terror, and a lot of European countries are more left leaning than the US. Do you really think we can only meet with countries with the exact same political leanings as us now? Okay, then say to no to France. Cut off relations with Vietnam again. Stop talking to China. Just Britain and Australia - okay? The comments of people here are horrifying - you can't just crawl in a hole and put your hands over your ears and say you are not talking to anyone who doesn't agree with your belief system 100%!

Posted by: Ostrich | September 18, 2008 11:18 AM

McCain's campaign staff saying McCain's gaffe was intentional tells us all we need to know as they are proven liars. That means it was unintentional. Now, why did McCain do this? Is he sick, confused or tired? Or is he just stupid (like not knowing the difference between Sunni or Shia?) In any event, I am really starting to lose confidence in his expertise in foreign affairs and any ability to repair our relations in the world.

Posted by: Mary | September 18, 2008 11:17 AM

Which is worse, being somwhat dim and confused or really believing that Spain's democratically elected prime minister rejects 'human rights, democracy and freedom' because he refused to keep his country in an illegal war? I'll take senility over such dangerous ideologicial blinkers any day.

Posted by: Maria | September 18, 2008 11:16 AM

Maybe he will extend an invitation to the president of Czechoslovakia!!!

Seriously, if McCain wins I will never believe in this countries democratic ideals which are all a crock of ship.

P.S. did you know McCain was a P.O.W.

Posted by: devilsadvoc8 | September 18, 2008 11:13 AM

It seems that McCain is going to continue the Bush policy of turning a blind eye to Latin America. In the past the CIA quickly responded to the rise of a leftist government in the region by undermining the economy of the country and infusing vast sums into the coffers of leaders of fascist death squads. It was easy to do this without creating much fuss when there was only one country to deal with at a time. Have the Manifest Destiny crowd noticed that things have gotten out of their easy control? The list of leftist governments in Latin America in the article isn't all inclusive: Nicaragua and Honduras were left off. Also El Salvador may see the election of a leftist government, with social turmoil increasing in other countries in the region, e.g., Chile and Peru. The nascent world economic catastrophe can only aggravate the situation. The fact that the new leftist leaders have learned the Allende lesson of what happens to leftists who try to be too democratic makes the situation more precarious. Now McCain and crowd want to push Spain into this fold? One has to wonder what is up. Have the neo-cons completely taken over and replaced common sense Machiavellianism with ideology? Don't we understand the principle of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend?" Are we out to increase the allies of and safe havens for terrorists? If we aren’t careful the Spanish won’t need us as a friend at the rate we are declaring other nations as enemies. Palin has said, in a sputtering attempt to explain away her casual statement that, “Sure, if Georgia is in NATO we would, well, maybe, have to go to war with Russia (well thought through that)” “We don’t want to start a new Cold War.” Actions speak louder than words, and this seems to be disingenuous, at the least. That is exactly what appears to be happening, taking into account McCain’s very active involvement in the politics of Georgia. Has he or his crowd noticed that two Russia bombers visited Venezuela and Putin has said Russia needs to renew its relations with Cuba? Tit for tat. It is one thing to be macho; it is another thing to be foolish.

Posted by: ChuckB | September 18, 2008 11:13 AM

That Randy Sheunemann's explanation came as an e-mail, rather than an official campaign statement, suggests a trial balloon. If the McCain campaign finds people accept the explanation, they'll make it official. If no one does, it'll be dropped as an expression of Sheunemann's personal opinion. Frankly, having listened to McCain's voice behind the translation, I find Sheunemann's "explanation" preposterous. McCain thought he was answering about someone in Latin America. He was seriously confused, and I found that seriously disturbing.

Posted by: Marc | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM

So McCain would rather foment hostile relations with a NATO ally rather than admit that he didn't know that Zapatero was Prime Minister of Spain? He'd rather be thought hostile than stupid - when he's actually both. Plus, he's scary. Sorry, folks, but this is no country for old men. McCain's time has passed.

Posted by: Former Republican in Ohio | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM

I heard the interview and understand Spanish. When he was first asked, he responded by saying how well Calderon was doing down in Mexico against the drug cartels. He did not know what, who, when, where, or why, the interviewer was talking about. Even trying to give him an enormous amount of credit and say that maybe he did, possibly after she informed him that she was talking about the prime minister of Spain, which was in Europe, he was unwilling to go on the record as saying Spain is an ally? Are you SERIOUS? Isn't there any upper limit to the number of countries in the world we should be antagonizing?!?

Posted by: jibeaux | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM

Hey Senator Maverick McCain has good relations with Spain, after all the first European conquers of Arizona were Spanish and the country is named for the Spanish words meaning dry region "Arida zona" Heck, with that type of experience he is an expert on US-Spain relations, just like Governor Maverick Palin has great experience with Russia because you can see Russia from Alaska

Posted by: Anon | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM

Unbelievable! Good Job John Bush, I hope the American Public understands you do not know anything.

Posted by: TigerLily | September 18, 2008 11:11 AM

Is this a bad version of My Fair Lady? ..The Rain in Spain Stays Mainly on McCain...

But seriously, it appears he is evading the question because he doesn't have a strong opinion on whether Spain is on his 'ally list' or 'enemy list.' It's ridiculous how out of touch he is, and he will most definitely alienate our remaining allies if elected.

Posted by: Henry Higgins | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM

If any of you know anything about Spain's current state of politics, then you will know that Zapatero (ZP) is the most ineffectual, lame and worthless leader that Spain has had in modern history. His tenure has been plagued by secret deals and meetings. He negotiated secretly with ETA while telling the public he would not speak with ETA. He worked to hide evidence concerning the 2004 Madrid train bombing.

Aznar worked hard to improve the Spanish economy so that Spain could meet EU standards. I know, I lived and worked in Spain during Aznar's tenure. ZP has done nothing to help Spain's economy, just continuing failed socialist policies to tax people who work to pay people who are lazy. The Spanish acted naively and like sheep in re-electing him.

The U.S. would gain absolutely nothing by speaking with Spain's current government, and I have respect for McCain for stating that he would not talk with ZP. ZP doesn't want democracy.

And by the way, in the spat with Chavez, ZP tried meekly to silence Chavez and then tried to silence King Juan Carlos when he spoke! Chavez needed to be firmly put in his place.

Posted by: Maria | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM

Everyone's forgetting that McCain fought in the Spanish-American War in 1898, so it's no wonder he's antagonistic to Spain. Remember the Maine!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM

Makes Bush look like a genius.

Posted by: Patriot3 | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM

This is the man who would run this country and the women who can see Russia from her front window?

Posted by: Are you kidding? | September 18, 2008 11:06 AM

To show is good will to Spain McCain changed his last name to McSpain.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 11:06 AM

I think they should just make me Ambassador to the World. Since I've been to and flown over plenty of countries. Let go get'm mavericks. To the Batmobile.......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:04 AM

Spain is a NATO member and has troups in Afganistan helping the US...

McCain has no idea who is Zapatero and Spain is south near Venezuela...

Posted by: Joeforrest | September 18, 2008 11:03 AM

And worst of all is the refusal to admit error. McCain = Bush's third term on steroids.

Tell me, aside from being a NATO ally, would Spain be allowed to join McCain's "League of Democracies"? If not, then who would be?

Posted by: CommunityOrganizer | September 18, 2008 11:03 AM

It was not an accident that McCain finished near the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. I mean, seriously this guy is not too bright.

Posted by: cdgainesville | September 18, 2008 11:02 AM

McCain is proving that he is every bit as stupid as Bush. In fact when you factor in his time in politics and government compared to Bush's he surpasses Bush. His response to everyone, friend and perceived enemy alike is not to speak with them. We even see this with how he sequestered his VP choice from the media and now how he is obstructing the investigating body in 'Troopergate.' McCain is a imbecilic relic who shouldn't be allowed to run a hotdog stand much less a country.

Posted by: tydicea | September 18, 2008 11:01 AM

Senator McCain's damage control op:

"We're all Spainiacs now."

Posted by: Patriot3 | September 18, 2008 11:01 AM

Juan McCain is un guevon. Un pendejo. Un enemigo de la comunidad latina.

Que come mierda ese cucho tan idiota.

Posted by: Latinos for Obama | September 18, 2008 11:01 AM

McCain was just too stupid to understand
the question.He doesn't have a clue as to what goes on with foreign relations,much like his running mate,Sarah Palin!And where has all of this stupidity gotten us?

Posted by: PUREDEMO | September 18, 2008 10:59 AM

People are commonly reading this as McCain not knowing who Zapatero was, but I think it was far worse. I think he wasn't sure if Spain was an ally or not. He's an old man. He forgets things. And he could have been relying on Spain's withdrawal from Iraq to jog his memory about whether they were an ally or not. We've seen this before: without a minder like Joe Lieberman or Lindsay Graham at his side to remember for him, John McCain doesn't always do so well in the memory and knowledge department.

America is no country for old men.

Posted by: Mark F | September 18, 2008 10:59 AM

I've been to Ibiza. Can I be the ambassador to Spain in McCain administration?

Come to think of it, from different parts of Spain you can see Portugal, France, Morocco (did i miss others?). I could be the ambassador to all these countries and save taxpayer money for salaries and other expenses.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 10:58 AM

Can we stop ignoring the fact that he is old and old people sometimes get confused? For pity's sake. I don't want a 72-year-old pilot, I don't want a 72-year-old brain surgeon, and I sure as heck don't want a 72-year-old leader of the Free World.

Posted by: trace1 | September 18, 2008 10:58 AM

Can some one post a list of Palin's foreign policy experiences.

And please, no jokes about the limbo, or about having said she went to Iraq, or Irish runways, or her first passport being obtained in 2007.

Posted by: Rob L. | September 18, 2008 10:57 AM

I guess McCain really needed Judas-Joe Liberman.

Posted by: ex-Washingtonian_in_NH | September 18, 2008 10:57 AM

guess McPain just lost lots of the Hispanic vote.
bien hecho Juan

Posted by: sinkor14 | September 18, 2008 10:56 AM

So McCain thinks that Spain is weak on Human Rights?

Posted by: mjames1 | September 18, 2008 10:54 AM

Johnny Walnuts (referring to his jowls and the fact that's he's batsh*t crazy) was with Palin, and jumped in on a question, emphatically offering up her two year service as the Commander of the National Guard as specific evidence of her being ready to carry the nuclear football on January 21, 2009.

Which is, for those of sound mind, a joke. On us!

Walnuts is effectively saying that anybody with a box of band-aids in their bathroom closet has the capacity to perform open heart surgery.

And the 'close to Russia' thing? Wow.
They gotta get some air into that bubble!

How many of my respected Republican's don't find Walnuts defense of Palin, who got her first passport last year, comical?

Anyone?

Posted by: Rob L. | September 18, 2008 10:53 AM

Zapatero a center-left politician...HA!!! Yet another example of spinning by this disgraceful newspaper. Anyone who understands Spanish politics knows full well that Zapatero is a staunch, radical and extreme socialist! McCain did right.

FU, Washington Post!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:53 AM

So if the US attacks Spain, is the US, as a NATO ally, required to defend Spain? Maybe We should ask Sarah "The Supreme Commander of Alaska National Guard" Palin. She's been to Mexico so she should know a whole lot about it. After all, don't they all speak Spanish?

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 10:51 AM

Cindy has told him not to consort with mere shoemakers . . .

Posted by: gringo | September 18, 2008 10:47 AM

McCain is another Zapato to drop.

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 10:47 AM

Zapatero, soon after he was elected, made a big deal of welcoming Chavez to Spain and selling him weapons. I think Zapatero has grown somewhat tired of Chavez since then, but this is very likely what McCain is implicitly referring to.

Posted by: RK | September 18, 2008 10:46 AM

I think Johnny Walnuts foreign policy strategy, The McCain Fog Doctrine, is brilliant.

Our enemies, including evil Spain, will be kept guessing, never knowing when Walnuts is going to bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb bomb bomb them. (sung to the tune of Barbara Ann)

Let's elect McCain, cuz it might be fun to be part of a global meltdown into chaos and anarchy. I mean, let's give him a chance to finish up Bush's work, and get on with God's Apocalypse Plan.

Yeehaw!


In the sewnse that

Posted by: Rob L. | September 18, 2008 10:44 AM

Perhaps he was just recalling his boyhood days when Spain actually did control almost everything in the Americas?

...or maybe foreign affairs aren't his best subject.

Posted by: Daniel | September 18, 2008 10:43 AM

Way to go McCain! Burn bridges with NATO allies even before you have a chance to build them. Brilliant move, now when are we going to attack Spain?

Posted by: RC | September 18, 2008 10:41 AM

Isn't McCain the foreign policy expert?

McCain is a JOKE. A JOKE. A JOKE.

No wonder he picked Sarah Palin for VP; she can see Russia (Siberia) from Alaska!

Posted by: Martin | September 18, 2008 10:40 AM

Which Spain? The Spain that totally rolled over for Al Qaida after they had a trained bombed by them. They seem to want to follow the French model for dealing with agressors, give them what they want and maybe they will go away. By the way, I am spanish, and ashamed of it.

Posted by: giscone | September 18, 2008 10:39 AM

What an idiot.

Posted by: Obama | September 18, 2008 10:38 AM

Is McCain as dumb as he sounds. I pity our country is he and his VP win in November.

Posted by: Rachell | September 18, 2008 10:38 AM

I have to agree: you guys are covering for McCain here. He didn't have any idea who or what the interviewer was talking about, period. This wasn't some sort of ultra-neocon "we won't talk to them moment," it was a troubling gaffe.

Posted by: LS | September 18, 2008 10:37 AM

I think McCain was making reference to the Spaniards that were in California in 1830.
He even can recall their presence there when he was a kid !!!!

Posted by: Zorro | September 18, 2008 10:37 AM

MORE HAS CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT PALINS ALLEDGED AFFAIR.
http://www.theveep.com

MORE PEOPLE SET TO TESTIFY IN TROOPER GATE
IS PALIN DONE? http://www.hotpres.com

DID PALIN VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES?? http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:36 AM

My friends, today we're all Spainians :)

Posted by: Thor | September 18, 2008 10:36 AM

McSame wasn't dissing Zapatero... He has no clue who the guy is.

He needs Lieberman standing behind him, like a Traitor Teleprompter, to answer all his questions for him.

He doesn't know Zapatero from Zapato... Al Queda from Iran, Shiite from Sunni, his a$$ from a whole in the ground...

Typical Republican Candidate for President...

And the idiots nodded and voted for the White guy.

Posted by: McPOW | September 18, 2008 10:35 AM

McCain, por que no te callas???

Posted by: around | September 18, 2008 10:32 AM

"McCain foreign policy adviser Randy Sheunemann said McCain's answer was intentional."

What else would you expect Scheunemann to say? The point is that Obama is forward-looking and will work to repair U.S. alliances while McCain is mired in the past and in his talking points, eerily similar to George Bush's.

Posted by: Bill | September 18, 2008 10:28 AM

McCain had no idea who she was talking about. Palin, McCain, Obama, and Biden should all take a geography test. The winner wins the oval office.

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/09/18/sarah-palin-geography-test/

Who do you think would win this contest?

Posted by: ES | September 18, 2008 10:25 AM

Spain? Which Spain do you mean? Can you see it from Alaska?

Posted by: tellthetruth01 | September 18, 2008 10:24 AM

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