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Women's Group Condemns NOW Endorsement of Obama

Updated 2:37 p.m.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
A group of Hillary Clinton supporters condemned the National Organization for Women's endorsement of Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden earlier this week.

"The New Agenda is concerned that NOW's recent endorsement of Barack Obama leaves many women in this country out in the cold," the nonpartisan nonprofit group said in a release Friday. "The endorsement seems all the more puzzling given the fact that the Republican Party is running its first female candidate for Vice-President, Gov. Sarah Palin, and the Green Party is fielding its first all-woman presidential ticket with Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente."

The New Agenda points out that since its 1966 founding, NOW has previously endorsed at the presidential level only four times -- and each time there was a woman on the ticket: Shirley Chisolm in the 1972 Democratic primary; Democrats Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro for the 1984 general election; Carol Mosely Braun in the 2003 Democratic primary; and Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primary.

"We find it quite perplexing that NOW has chosen to endorse an all-male ticket after not endorsing recent candidates such as Gov. Bill Clinton, Sen. Al Gore, or Sen. John Kerry," said New Agenda co-founder Amy Siskind in the statement.

The New Agenda represents the coming together of more than 30 prominent Clinton supporters, many deeply involved in the bitter Democratic primary battle, into a new post-primary initiative to fight media sexism. The group, explained Siskind in an interview, evolved from the Together for Us group of Clinton supporters founded by, among others, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, who endorsed Obama rival Sen. John McCain this week. The group also has drawn members from some of the other pro-Clinton efforts, such as Cynthia Ruccia, who during the primaries was a leader of the Ohio-based group Clinton Supporters Count Too, and, later, Women for Fair Politics.

The New Agenda's commitment to being nonpartisan reflects the split among its Clinton loyalists over who to support in the general election. But it also allows the group to try to press its anti-sexism agenda with both parties. Siskind said New Agenda has found the McCain campaign more receptive to its overtures, holding meetings with McCain surrogate Carly Fiorina and senior campaign strategists.

"Through Carly, McCain had promised us he would have more women in his administration than any president in history," said Siskind, who added that she felt the group's pressure played some small role in McCain's choice of Palin as his vice presidential running mate.

Already, the group has come to Palin's aid, and it has promised to watchdog the press on her behalf. "We cannot and will not sit idly by while another qualified candidate goes through what Senator Hillary Clinton had to endure," said Siskind at the end of August.

On the Obama side, the group has met with adviser Mark Alexander, the campaign's one-time policy director, and is hoping for meetings with more central actors soon.

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NEWS ALERT:

THERE IS NO ONE WAY FOR A WOMAN TO THINK!!!! NOW DOES NOT REPRESENT ME! I AM VOTING FOR REAL PROGRESS FOR WOMEN AND AMERICA! I AM VOTING PALIN AND MCCAIN!

NOW does not determine my vote. It shouldn't determine any of yours' either. Women have the right to think, believe, feel, and act without the express endorsement of NOW. It makes me sick to my stomach to think that women would rely on an organization like NOW to know how to act and feel!

Give me a break. We all have our own minds and can make decisions without assistance.

I go to church and worship God; I don't believe that abortion is truly about women's rights; I have a brother who served in the Iraq war and fully supported him being there; I LIKE having lower taxes and doing my own budgeting; and, I have every right to feel that way about those things if I want.

Obama has left a trail of lies, party destruction, and hate all along his climb to Democratic Nominee. He has never apologized for any of it along the way. What could we possibly expect from him if he were to be elected!?

An even sadder fact is that Barack Obama's biggest campaign strategy is more campaign funding.

I am voting for McCain because he stands for something; he has proven his willingness to fight for our country's interests; he tried to protect America from the housing crisis in early 2006; he has a lot of good and valuable experience under his belt; he has recognized his past mistakes and has actually *gasp* apologized for them; he has erased party boundaries and is putting America's top agendas first; he also had the courage to pick a real woman as his running mate - furthering the true feminist agenda, which is to give women an equal chance in the workplace and in national politics.

Sarah Palin is just as experienced in state-level politics as Obama, although she hasn't had the same campaign time. She is intelligent and witty. She has a husband, family, guns, religion, and politics under her belt. She is more qualified to be president than Obama, and yet is only running for VP.

She knows energy issues and energy politics. She has a good record of getting rid of filth from our government. I hope she did fire that dirt bag. She is in touch with women's issues and was/is? a member of Feminists For Life. She has more survival skills than Obama, and knows what it takes to run a small military too. She is out of the country right now building up her foreign-relations experience. She is an amazing person and an excellent role model for me, my daughters, my family, and all of America.

NOW is a special interest organization that does not represent my views. I hope more women will learn to think on their own without Kim Gandy, Latifa Lyles, and the other NOW thought police. I hope we will ALL vote based on our God-given natural intuition, and based on study of the character of the people running for office.

I am voting McCain/Palin this election. There is too much at stake to not - including our economy.

John McCain showed readiness for the White House by putting together a proposal for the economy. Perfect or not, it is far more action than Obama has taken in his pathetic attempt to lay low on the issue and avoid saying anything that might hurt his popularity.

John has shown us leadership and experience. He disagrees with some of Bush's policies or with the way things are going with the White House right now, but he shows respect to the president and reverence for the position. Obama shows none of that... and I sure don't want Michelle in the White House as first lady. Michelle Obama is an embarrassment.

Posted by: joey | September 24, 2008 3:04 AM

Since 2006, the federally sponsored mortgage giant Freddie Mac has paid at least $345,000 to John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis. Davis was charged with the task of promoting home ownership while at the same time counter efforts of the government to impose tighter loan regulations. This is considered as one of the cause of the current major meltdown financial crisis in the country since the 1930s economic depression.

Although the previous arrangement had terminated, Rick Davis himself approached Freddie Mac in 2006 and asked for a new consulting arrangement. As a result, Davis's Washington, D.C. based lobbying firm known as Davis & Manafort received $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac until last month. The arrangement was approved by Hollis McLoughlin, Freddie Mac's vice president for external relations. Davis being a campaign Manager and a potential Chief of Staff for the next President it was felt you couldn't say no.

Despite of this new revelation, it is not ideal for Davis to voluntary or be requested to step aside at this time, six weeks before the general election.

Posted by: jane | September 23, 2008 9:46 PM

If you consider Palin to have sincere objections to abortion (whether personal or political), then it is logical for her to favor contraception and to favor sex education that promotes condoms.

In Palin's short time in office in Alaska, she has done what Obama talked about doing in the White House: passed legislation that BOTH sides can stand up and cheer about.

Posted by: fsteele | September 23, 2008 9:03 PM

Sarah Palin is running as VP on the Republican ticket. She is not supposed to be a substitute for anyone's mother, daughter, sister, BFF.........She is also not the body double, mirror image, carbon copy or clone of any other woman. She is who she is. Her beliefs, views and goals are her own. THAT is what feminism is all about. Those of us who are who we are, are not threatened by someone with dissimilar beliefs, views or goals; instead we agree to disagree about the differences and embrace the similarities as common ground.

Posted by: RIChris | September 23, 2008 5:08 PM

From what very little I've been able to find about Palin's support of sex education and failure to push for anti-choice legislation, it seems she took these positions not from her own convictions, but in order to pander to Democratic voters. This does not reassure me, especially since, on the national level, she has used her anti-choice convictions to win support from conservative extremists.

Posted by: lesley | September 23, 2008 2:07 PM

Palin did get an 80% approval rating in alaska however that was because only 20% were for her predecessor. The 80% would have voted for a dogfish if Palin wasn't running. The bottom line is that they wanted a change but Palin did not turn out to be the change most wanted. She is so unqualified and is also a horrible person the way she pranced her downe syndrome son amd unwed pregnant 17 year old daughter in the publics eye in order to win votes. This is despictable and unforgivable. A true,good Christian mother would never have exploited her children the way Sarah Palin did. A vote for McPalin is a vote for the republican party that ruined our country over the past 8-yrs. It would mean the total demise of our country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 12:57 AM

Palin is on record favoring sex education to teach children about condoms, because some children "may not learn this at home." That hardly sounds like stripping anyone of birth control!

She has also said she will not change any laws about abortion. In Alaska she got an 80-90% approval rating by staying out of social issues so as not to offend Democrats because she needs our votes for her oil and money reforms -- which is what she will do as VP and POTUS. See a good article "Palin governs from the center."

Posted by: fsteele | September 22, 2008 7:20 PM

There was never a question in my mind why NOW endorsed Obama/Biden. I am relieved and grateful that they did so. The McCain/Palin ticket would set women’s rights achievements in this country back 150 years.

I couldn’t sign up to work for Obama fast enough after Palin’s nomination. He is not the ideal candidate - none of them are. But McCain/Palin terrify me not just for women’s rights, but for the security of our nation. They are arrogant and reckless. Just ANY woman is NOT the right woman.

Hillary would have been the right woman. It seems to me that so many women are feeding their bitterness at Hillary’s loss, that they will cut off America’s nose to spite it’s face.

Why do we need to wait for her to weigh in on all the issues when she has already made it clear that she would strip us of at least two of our most important milestones? Roe v Wade and Birth Control. Do we really want to lose these?

Posted by: Lesley M | September 22, 2008 2:39 PM

"Through Carly, McCain had promised us he would have more women in his administration than any president in history"

McCain certainly has more women in his staff than Obama does, and pays them better, according to this report from a Senate accounting office.

www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972

"Women occupy seven of the top 10 highest-paid positions on McCain's staff, and five of the top 10 highest-paid positions on Obama's staff."

Obama's staff: 30 women to 27 men
McCain's staff: 26 women to 16 men

Posted by: fsteele | September 22, 2008 2:12 AM

If we have to put the bar any lower we will just need to paint a line on the floor.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 1:48 AM

"At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 1:20 AM

Its the Economy- we can't take more from these Republican idiots.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 12:12 AM

RIChris- "Instead of men calling the shots, these so-called feminists are telling women what to do, say and think. Time has proven that feminism is not a group effort. Until a woman stands alone on her own two feet, feels free to voice her own opinions, does not need validation from other women for her beliefs, takes responsibility for her actions, and does not make excuses for the choices she makes; she will never be deemed an actual feminist. "

Human liberation is about this= thinking for yourself. When you think for yourself, you see how certain people try to change public perception for their financial benefit- Ie. Republicans.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 11:32 PM

Its great to see the Republican trolls are given a break from the airport stalls to blog a liitle bit.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 11:25 PM

Biden says he was a lazy student, and he graduated 506th out of 688 in his class in 1965.

McCain was hardworking and graduated 894 out of 899. lots of brains there.

Posted by: TIM | September 21, 2008 11:22 PM

Mcain Tkt- "I don't blame you all for the fascination with Sarah Palin ... she is so dag gone awesome, isn't she? What a great person!!"

What are you her father or Dike for Palin?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 11:18 PM

Now can you please also reaserch MCCAIN'S Satanic worship and Pedophilia and their role in the Republican Party.
AND why did it take Palin 6 years and 5 colleges to get an undergraduate degree- what is her problem, is she an idiot?

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 11:15 PM

Did you say non-partisan?

More like the New Puma Agenda, but that is nothing really new.

"Many of the women who attended The New Agenda's first meeting got to know each other as a result working with pro-Hillary groups. Attendees included founding members of such groups as Together4US, Party Unity My Ass (PUMA), IOwnMyVote, Just Say No Deal and Vote Democracy '08.

"This group is comprised of women who are "gravely concerned about the mistreatment of Hillary Clinton during the primary season, and the passion and emotion that resulted from Hillary's mistreatment brought us together.," says Siskind."

http://www.hillarygreenmountain.com/2008/08/women-form-the-new-agenda.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 10:40 PM

NOW has lost their credibility with women, now. Ironic isn't it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 10:23 PM

I can not believe what has happened to the Democratic Party. They have become a party known for their racist and sexist attitudes today. You can thank the liberal main stream media for that too. If it was not for their biased reporting and NOW supporting Obama, instead of the first woman who has a chance to become VP, then it would not have been so blatantly obvious.

Thanks for the heads up. I know who I am voting for and that is McCain/Palin. I will not support NOW anymore, I will join the new non partisan group for women, The New Agenda. Women for Women and not Women for Democrats only.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 21, 2008 10:21 PM

Palin Used Part of the City’s Funds from the Alaska Revenue Sharing Fund to Fund Anti-Abortion Center. In 1997, Palin signed an ordinance appropriating $2,354 in funds to the Valley Crisis Pregnancy Center from the State of Alaska Revenue Sharing fund. The Valley Crisis Pregnancy Center lists itself as an “abortion alternative” in the Yellow Pages. [Ordinance 97-23, 4/14/1997; AlaskaYellowPages.com]

Crisis Pregnancy Centers Are Known To Give Misleading and Often Inaccurate Information. A recent government investigation of pregnancy crisis centers found that “The centers provided false and misleading information about a link between abortion and breast cancer;” “The centers provided false and misleading information about the effect of abortion on future fertility;” “The centers provided false and misleading information about the mental health effects of abortion.” Planned Parenthood also says the centers offer free pregnancy tests but give ambiguous answers about the results, show shocking films or slide shows while patients wait for pregnancy results, make exaggerated promises of financial assistance, medical treatment, prenatal and postpartum care and refuse or fail to provide contraceptive information. [Committee on Government Reform, “False And Misleading Health Information Provided By Federally Funded Pregnancy Resource Centers,” 7/06; Planned Parenthood]

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 10:07 PM

NOW has eroded into just a replacement for the male bastions they had organized to combat. Instead of men calling the shots, these so-called feminists are telling women what to do, say and think. Time has proven that feminism is not a group effort. Until a woman stands alone on her own two feet, feels free to voice her own opinions, does not need validation from other women for her beliefs, takes responsibility for her actions, and does not make excuses for the choices she makes; she will never be deemed an actual feminist.

Posted by: RIChris | September 21, 2008 9:16 PM

I think you scared anonymous and brian (one in the same)... another intellectual McCain win!!!

Posted by: PalinPower | September 21, 2008 9:12 PM

I tried to find the "factual" answer to a question on this blog regarding Sarah's college but was unable to and I don't much care. It wouldn't change my mind ... anymore than this will change your mind:

Obama went to Occidental College in L.A. for a couple of years before transferring to Columbia and finishing up there. And Joe Biden went to the University of Delaware in Newark. Biden says he was a lazy student, and he graduated 506th out of 688 in his class in 1965. Where are your questions about these guys, or Obama's admitting the use of marijuana and cocaine while in school? Maybe they're not as charismatic or captivating as Sarah. I don't blame you all for the fascination with Sarah Palin ... she is so dag gone awesome, isn't she? What a great person!!

Vote McCain/Palin!!!!

Posted by: McCainTkt | September 21, 2008 9:09 PM

Brian, I did research as requested ... go to the below link ... quite interesting. I tried to post it here but apparently those bad boy Democrats are in too much trouble to even post the details of their arrests ... the details were flagged! This is something everyone should see!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1980959/posts

Posted by: McCain4Pres | September 21, 2008 9:00 PM

Second Democrat Official Arrested in Alleged Satanic Cult Case

Police charged a third person Wednesday in connection with beatings and rape that authorities say were carried out by a satanic cult.

Diana Palmer, 44, of Cottage Woods Court, surrendered to police Wednesday afternoon. She was charged with being an accessory after the fact of assault with a deadly weapon and was being held in the Durham County Jail.

...Palmer is first vice chair of the Durham County Democratic Party. Johnson resigned her positions as third vice-chair of the Durham County Democratic Party and vice-chair of the Young Democrats following her arrest.

Lots of vice going on with those vice chairs!

...The county party’s Web site was disabled Wednesday, but Farmer said that was related to a technical problem and not the allegations against Palmer and Johnson.

http://www.kxnet.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=253668

Posted by: McCain4Pres | September 21, 2008 8:56 PM

Dry roast - please also reaserch Satanic worship and Pedophilia and their role in the Republican Party.

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 8:13 PM

Dry Roast- You are a great researcher! Could you please answer one question- why did it take Palin 6 years and 5 colleges to get an undergraduate degree- what is her problem?

Posted by: anonymous | September 21, 2008 8:03 PM

Palin is the Anti-Christ so of course McCain, that godless tool would choose her.

Posted by: john5750 | September 21, 2008 7:59 PM

It's not so perplexing if you take 1 minute to ready why NOW endorsed Obama/Biden.

But for some people, reading is difficult.

Posted by: Don | September 21, 2008 7:55 PM

Since Happy is busy working the stalls, could any Republican troll answer the following-
1)Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley and their role in the Republican party.
2)Then tell us about Abstinance Sex Education, Banning Books, Foreign Policy Experience, and
3)Satanic Worship

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 7:44 PM

A- can you please tell us about McCain's Satanic worship, Is the reason he choose Palin because they share the same ideology?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 7:38 PM

As governor, Sarah Palin...

Proposed paying a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf.

Approved a $400,000 state-funded propaganda campaign to promote aerial hunting.

Introduced legislation to make it even easier to use aircraft to hunt wolves and bears.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 7:34 PM

Anyone who doesn't care about Muslim ties has a serious problem.

Posted by: Happy

=========================================

Well Happy, George Bush, Dick Cheney and the rest of their cronies running the Palin-McCain campaign have some pretty strong muslim ties which should worry you. Can you say Saudi Arabia?

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 21, 2008 7:32 PM

Hunting for wolves is "viciously cruel" and being a Pedophile is sick and a Crime.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 7:29 PM

Hunting for wolves is "viciously cruel" and being a Pedophile is sick and a Crime.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 7:29 PM

"So how come no one has mentioned anything about McCain belonging to a Satanic cult? Talk about a cover up! Even if the lie about Obama being a muslim rather than he really being a Christian were true, I'd still rather vote for a muslim than a Satan worshiper,"

Posted by: JR | September 21, 2008 7:26 PM

Hunting for wolves is "viciously cruel", but killing unborn babies (even ones with disabilities) is tolerated. You liberals are all hypocrites!

Posted by: A | September 21, 2008 7:25 PM

Barack was just trying to find all of McCains houses, lol.

"Take the McCain House Tour!
With Places to Hang His Hat on Two Coasts -- and a Few in Between -- the Candidate Is Living Large"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103691.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 7:25 PM

Barack Visited 57 States
“While campaigning in Oregon on Friday, Senator Obama stated that he had traveled 57 states, and had a couple left to go. Some would write this off as stupidity and state that he had merely forgotten the number of states he is fighting to represent as President of the United States. Barack Obama may be many things, but he is not stupid.
We believe that Senator Obama had a Freudian slip. We believe that Barack was thinking about an organization more near and dear to his heart than the USA, that is the OIC. The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It groups 57 nations, most of which are Islamic, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America. The primary goals of the OIC are, according to its Status, "to promote solidarity among all Islamic member states."

Posted by: Unhappy2 | September 21, 2008 7:20 PM

Palin Says She’s a Change from The Scandal-Plagued Republicans,
But She’s More of the Same.
Palin built her reputation on criticizing state Republicans for
ethics questions, but Palin has questions of her own, as she used
city resources when she campaigned for Lt. Governor; Palin chaired
the campaign of another candidate in a race dominated by resource
issues when she was on the oil and gas commission and said that she
saw no conflict of interest. For years, Palin supported Murkowski,
campaigning for him across the state, and he supported her campaigns
as well.

Palin Touts Fiscal Conservatism, But She Increased Spending
Tremendously and Supported Tax Increases.
Palin constantly reminds us that she is a fiscal conservative.
But during her time as mayor, she increased the city’s budget at a
rate far outpacing the city’s growth with spending on large projects.
She supported sales tax increases and left the city with thousands
in per-capita debt, where none had existed when she came in. Palin
brags about eliminating the personal property tax, but with the same
legislation, the city increased motor vehicle fees that almost matched
the lost income of the personal property taxes.

Palin Is Too Socially Conservative for Libertarian Alaska.
Palin is a strong conservative—something she repeated throughout her
primary campaign but now seems to try to back off from. She is not only
pro-life but is involved with—and even steered tax money
toward—organizations that give misleading information on abortion.
She called herself a “hard-core fiscal conservative” who wanted government
to get to the bare bones. The Anchorage Daily News asked whether her
“socially conservative positions square with Alaska's generally
libertarian approach to those issues.” Palin also supported a flat tax,
an idea even Bob Dole thought was absurd.

Palin’s Management Style is to Bully and Demand Political Loyalty.
Palin’s tenure as mayor of Wasilla was marred by tremendous staff turnover,
first when she fired most of the top staff—including the city’s
librarian—because she questioned their loyalty, and then later when staff
quit because of her micromanaging style. Wasilla even lost the opportunity
to hire a police chief because he said the job seemed too political.

Palin’s Not Ready for Primetime.
Palin argues that she was the mayor of the fastest growing city in Alaska.
While that may be true, Wasilla’s population is still 1 percent of the
rest of the state of Alaska. The last budget Palin approved, $12.5 million,
is .2 percent of the $7.3 billion budget Tony Knowles approved.

Palin’s Not Tough Enough to Be A Strong Negotiator for Alaska.
As mayor, Palin fired someone because she said he intimidated her with his
size and because he gave her a “stern look.” She asked her department heads
to give her only good news and once complained because we are so desperate
in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture.”

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 7:16 PM

USA3- besides satanic worship is McCain also into Pedophilia-it'sall the rage in the Republican party

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 7:13 PM

• Rev. Jesse Jackson's statement about Barack "I want to cut his nuts off," in reference to Obama "talking down to black people".

• Jimmy Carter's statement about Barack "I just don't think he's got yet the proven substance or experience to be the president." (PBS' "The Charlie Rose Show," 11/30/06)

• Louis Farrakhan said this about presidential candidate Barack Obama, "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better,"

• "We are noting with concern some of Obama's picks as advisers, particularly Robert Malley who has expressed sympathy to Hamas and Hezbollah and offered accounts of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that don't jibe with the facts," said one security official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

• The billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television says Barack Obama would not be a leading presidential candidate if he were white and that the Illinois senator's campaign has "a hair-trigger on anything racial."

• Rapper 50 Cent told MTV “I heard Obama speak, He hit me with that he-just-got-done-watching-’Malcolm X,’ and I swear to God, I’m like, ‘Yo, Obama!’ ” He threw his fist in the air. “I’m Obama to the end now, baby!”

• "It's the game of politics," the NBPP's Malik Zulu Shabazz told WND. "The Obama camp's move to remove our blog doesn't mean much because I understand politics. We still completely support Obama as the best candidate." Shabazz, who has given scores of speeches condemning "white men" and Jews, said today Obama "is the best guy to bring the kinds of racial changes supported by our community at the New Black Panthers."

• "I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002." -- Hillary Clinton

Posted by: DryRoasted | September 21, 2008 7:10 PM

USA3- tell me more about McCain satan worship- this certainly doesn't surprise me

Posted by: brian | September 21, 2008 7:09 PM

Ditto that!
"Joe- could you please check what the Republican positionn is on Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley- we all want to know. that is when you get free time in the stalls."

Posted by: mimi | September 21, 2008 7:07 PM

So how come no one has mentioned anything about McCain belonging to a Satanic cult? Talk about a cover up! Even if the lie about Obama being a muslim rather than he really being a Christian were true, I'd still rather vote for a muslim than a Satan worshiper.

Posted by: usa3 | September 21, 2008 7:07 PM

Maybe the PTS (Palin Truth Squad) should be renamed the Palin Un-Truth Zealots or PUTZ.

"McCain Press Aide Calls Alaska Reporter At Home To Complain About Unfavorable Coverage

Jason Moore, a reporter with Anchorage-based KTUU-TV, just confirmed to TPMmuckraker that Megan Stapleton, a spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign in Alaska, called his home to complain about one of Moore's news reports, and accused Moore of calling Stapleton and another McCain staffer liars.

Moore's report looked at the McCain-Palin campaign's "Truth Squad," an aggressive Alaska-based public relations campaign that's being led by Stapleton and former federal prosecutor Ed O'Callaghan and is designed to help thwart the Trooper-Gate investigation.

Moore reported that the Truth Squad was not always entirely truthful itself. He noted that Stapleton had said in a Friday press conference that it was Hollis French, the Democrat overseeing the investigation, who had pulled one name, that of former Palin chief of staff Mike Tibbles, off the list of witnesses to receive subpoenas. Stapleton had pointed to this as an inappropriate political maneuver by French.

But in fact, Moore reported, it was GOP Rep. Jay Ramras, a McCain supporter, who took Tibbles' name off the list. Moore quoted Ramras saying so."

http://syrin.vox.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 7:06 PM

The Many Lies of Barack

1.) Selma Got Me Born - Lie, you were born in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - Lie, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - Lie, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - Lie, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in many years.

5.) My Name is African Swahili - Lie, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

6.) I Never Practiced Islam - Lie, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

7.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - Lie, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

8.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - Lie, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

9.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - Lie, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

10.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - Lie, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

11.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - Lie, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

12.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - Lie, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

13.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - Lie, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

14.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - Lie, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 PRESENT VOTES.

15.) Oops, I Misvoted - Lie, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

16.) I Was A Professor Of Law - Lie, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

17.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - Lie, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

18.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - Lie, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

19.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - Lie, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

20.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - Lie, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

21.) I Have Released My State Records - Lie, as of May, 1 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

22.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - Lie, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

23.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - Lie, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

24.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - Lie, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

25.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - Lie, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

26.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - Lie, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

27.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - Lie, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

28.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - Lie, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

29.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - Lie, you ran ads ONLY along the florida border as well as national ads in an attempt to reach Florida voters 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

30.) I Won Michigan - Lie, no you didn't.

31.) I won Nevada - Lie, no you did not.

32.) I Want All Votes To Count - Lie, you said let the delegates decide, and you have fought not to have another primary in Michigan or Florida.

33.) I Want Americans To Decide - Lie, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

34.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - Lie, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

35.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - Lie, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has finally stopped saying this.

36.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - Lie, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer (a fellow democrat that wanted you to replace her in the next term) from running against you by challenging ALL of her signatures and thus running unopposed.

37.) I Don't Take PAC Money - Lie, you take loads of it. The Obama PAC is the largest PAC in the US Senate. I dare Obama supporters to go look this up.

38.) I don't Have Lobbyists - Lie, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

39.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - Lie, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

40.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - Lie, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this to MySpace clients.

41.) I Inspire People With My Words - Lie, you inspire people with other people's words.

42.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - Lie, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

43.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - Lie, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date in Iraq - AGAIN.

44.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - Lie, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

45.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - Lie, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no records of any such letters ever being created or sent.

46.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - Lie, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrakhan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

47.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - Lie, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

48.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - Lie, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.

49.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - Lie, your wife's pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate (going from $120K to $320K weeks after you got into the US Senate and tried to get a $1 million pork project for the very same hospital) and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

50.) I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - Lie, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you can't afford, saving you $625,000.

51.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - Lie, you only gave back Hsu ($72K [Yes, the same Hsu, Obama supporters try to tie Clinton to]) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN, it's $250k) their money when publicly called on their involvement in your campaigns.

52.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - Lie, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrakhan their person of the year.

53.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - Lie, you only recently repudiated Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.

54.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - Lie, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Mr. Auchi was also found guilt in another political corruption scandal (largest in France since WWII). And this is one of Obamas' good supporters that paid millions into the Obama campaign.

55.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright's, that have been in videos on You Tube all day - Lie! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa speech you said "Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did." FLIP-FLOPPER

56.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - Lie. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. Could it be that you had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton's and McCain's more than a year before!

57.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - Lie. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. He also seems to despise America as much as Rev. Wright.

58.) My wife didn't mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - Lie. Again, MicHELLe's comments are perfectly in sync with Wright's, Meeks', and Farrakhan's, both in language, anger, and direction.

59.) I am very Anti-Terror - Lie. One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed Khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren't there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.

60.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - Lie. You and your campaign buddy Penny 'Sub Prime Bank Collapse' Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?

61.) I played a greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion - Lie - It was found that Obama -- the day after sitting for the interview -- filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama's own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey. html version

Posted by: DryRoasted | September 21, 2008 7:04 PM

Joe- could you please check what the Republican positionn is on Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley- we all want to know. that is when you get free time in the stalls.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 7:03 PM

Joe-" I won't stick around to read any defense of these indefenseable remarks. "
What do you somebody in the next stall too.

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 7:00 PM

Joe is an RNC/Palin-McCain paid troll. Don't be too hard on him, he needs the extra money to pay for his ARM.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 6:59 PM

Well "Joe",

Who are you to say that after Biden had a chance to work closely with Obama he realized he was wrong.

Grandpa has sure changed his mind about myriad positions in this campaign so far. Or maybe he is just confused and can't remember.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 21, 2008 6:57 PM

Quote of the Week: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites" - Senator Barack Hussein Obama (Again, not a shocker!)

And on this note ... good night! I won't stick around to read any defense of these indefenseable remarks.

Posted by: Joe | September 21, 2008 6:56 PM

Quote: From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." - Senator Barack Hussein Obama (This is not a shocker!)

Posted by: Joe | September 21, 2008 6:55 PM

Quote: "I think Barack can be ready, but right now, I don't think he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on the job training." - Senator Joe Biden (If his own running mate has doubts about whether he's ready for the job... shouldn't you?)

Posted by: Joe | September 21, 2008 6:54 PM

I had a revelation today. All this subterfuge in certain evangelical circles and intentional disinformation from neo-conservatives about Obama being the Anti-Christ, it came to me maybe in fact it is Palin. Now I know it sounds crazy, but Alaska is as east as Hawaii is from the Holy Land, actually if you include Alaska's most eastern (or western from the lower 48 states) point, it is closer than Hawaii.

Although people presume the Anti-Christ is a male incarnation it doesn't mean it can't come in the guise of a female form. Just look at her rhetoric, promises and lies and how people suck it up.

No, I'm convinced, Palin is the Anti-Christ.

Posted by: john5750 | September 21, 2008 6:52 PM

Sources are reporting that around the first week of October, look for Barack Obama to admit he made ANOTHER MISTAKE when he forces Joe Biden to step down as his Vice Presidential candidate to make room for Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden will be forced to state that he is stepping down for " health reasons" but we all KNOW THE TRUTH. We originally supported Hillary Clinton but WILL NOT SUPPORT a forced ticket of Obama/Clinton. Barack Hussein Obama's poor choices, stupid comments and dumb decisions have plagued his election attempt. Lets keep this idiot out of the Whitehouse!

Posted by: DoNotVoteObama | September 21, 2008 6:51 PM

Unhappy- Why did Happy leave the blog site- couldn't stand the heat or had somebody in the next stall?

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 6:46 PM

I think Happy may actually be Crazy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 6:44 PM

Unhappy, if i were voting for Obama I'd be unhappy too! LOL!

McCain in '08!! Out with the Muslim!!!

Posted by: Angel | September 21, 2008 6:43 PM

Happy- enjoy your job servicing the airport stalls in Mnpls/SP

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 6:29 PM

OHVotes you might also want to consider the source of your info on Obama's tax plan. I am not sure how non-partisian they are.

"AEI has emerged as one of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.[2] More than twenty AEI alumni and current visiting scholars and fellows have served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.[3] Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar, and Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities, is a senior fellow.[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 6:17 PM

I've enjoyed educating you all on the facts ... however I must go to work now ... time to go pay taxes for those too lazy to, waiting with their hands out!!

McCain/Palin ... next President & V.P.!!

Posted by: Happy | September 21, 2008 6:17 PM

Unhappy- don't pay attention to PP and Happy they are just Republican Trolls.

That is why they refuse to state why the republicans defend pedophilia, Craig and Foley.- They give them a platform

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 6:16 PM

voteheronotzero, you shouldn't believe everything you get in a chainmail, several parts of that are inaccurate and misleading.

For a more fair comparison see...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

or for all the details...

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 6:15 PM

The reason there are so many different web sites on Obama's tax plan is because he changes his mind daily, based on the polls. That alone tells you what kind of President he would be ... NOT!!

Posted by: Happy | September 21, 2008 6:14 PM

I won't defend McCain against every mistake the Republican party has made. If that's the case, then let's have Obama answer for all the indiscretions in the Democratic party. From what I'm reading, Obama is tied "directly" to colorful folks like Ahyers, Wright, Muslims, etc.

Posted by: Happy | September 21, 2008 6:13 PM

Happy- Facts?

Like the fact that Palin is a creationist, that she believe in Abstinance Sex Education. Seems like she better go back to junior high to get some factual knowledge.
Also, please tell me about Pedophilia, Larry Craig, Mark Foley and their role in the Republican Party

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 6:11 PM

The Obama tax plan will ruin the average American, the only winners will be welfare users.
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales
How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren't high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)
* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....
* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!
McCain/Palin in '08
Obama may not be on the ballot in November. Read: www.obamacrimes.com

Posted by: VoteHeroNotZero | September 21, 2008 6:10 PM

Happy-
Please tell us about Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley and their role in the Republican party.
Then tell us about Abstinance Sex Education, Banning Books, Foreign Policy Experience, and Metastatic Melanoma.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 6:07 PM

OHVotes you might want to looks at this comparison of the candidates tax plans.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf

or this simple comparison...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 6:06 PM

Happy-
Please tell us about Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley and their role in the Republican party.
Then tell us about Abstinance Sex Education, Banning Books, Foreign Policy Experience, and Metastatic Melanoma.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 6:06 PM

Happy-
Please tell us about Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley and their role in the Republican party.
Then tell us about Abstinance Sex Education, Banning Books, Foreign Policy Experience, and Metastatic Melanoma.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 6:06 PM

Happy-
Please tell us about Pedophilia, Larry Craig and Mark Foley and their role in the Republican party.
Then tell us about Abstinance Sex Education, Banning Books, Foreign Policy Experience, and Metastatic Melanoma.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 6:06 PM

Melanoma: While only 4% of diagnosed skin cancer is melanoma, melanoma is the most serious form of skin cancer because of its ability to spread. This is why it is so important to catch melanoma early when the cure rate is about 95%. http://www.skincarephysicians.com/SkinCancerNet/melanoma.html

Now if you want to search the late stages which McCain did not have, you can find doom & gloom (Obama camp).

If you want to search the early stages which McCain had and was caught on time, you'll find the 95% cure rate.

Posted by: Happy | September 21, 2008 6:06 PM

PP, ignore anonymous ... I too experienced melanoma in my family and can vouch for the cure rate if melanoma is caught in its early stages. You know the mentality ??? ... consider this: (facts are something they can't comprehend)

Anonymous, tell us about the real sordid truth about Barack Obama: How for 20 years he sat silently as his minister, the radical preacher Jeremiah Wright, said he hated America — the same preacher who blamed the 9/11 attacks on OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. And then tell us that Obama believes this election is NOT about black and white. He isn't black anyway, he's more Arab than anything. Check his father's birthcertificate! ALSO, tell us about his long-term involvement with convicted felon Tony Resko in the purchase of Obama's$1,300,000 home! And tell us some more truth about Obama's despicable association with his friend William Ayers, who was on the FBI’s Most Wanted list for over 10 terrorist attacks.... Oh, and tell us the truth, PLEASE, about how, at age 25, Obama was backed by a radical Muslim activist close to the Saudi royal family when he applied to Harvard Law School!! And WHO raised money to pay Obama's tuition and fees!!

Posted by: Happy | September 21, 2008 6:00 PM

According to the NCI web site-Metastatic Melanoma is the deadliest form of cancer there is. Better check the web site.

Posted by: Marci | September 21, 2008 5:59 PM

I care about pedophiles, like Larry Craig And Mark Foley getting protection from the Republican slime balls.

Posted by: Unhappy | September 21, 2008 5:57 PM

Anonymous, its the deadliest if not caught in time, hence McCain wouldn't be here if his weren't caught in time. My brother had zero quality time for the two years after diagnosis, in and out of treatments, hospital, etc. You check your facts .. it IS THE MOST CUREABLE if caught in the early stages which MCCAIN'S WAS. I lived through melanoma, first hand, so don't vomit your bias on this subject my way. Grow up!!!

Posted by: PalinPower | September 21, 2008 5:56 PM

If you checked your facts, you'd know Palin is not a creationist. Anyone who doesn't care about Muslim ties has a serious problem.

Posted by: Happy | September 21, 2008 5:52 PM

I think the trues test of the New Agenda will be whether they can play a part in 2012. If they are too much of just a front for the republican PUMAs then in 2012 the support will swing to the GOP candidate.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:52 PM

Palin Power
Metastatic Melanoma is the Curable Cancer- WOW - you better check the National Cancer Institute site for stat- IT's the Deadliest Form Of Cancer

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:52 PM

Who can truth rich white ladies to insure that working women are protected. it sounds like the New Agenda is just another Republican Troll group like PUMA

Posted by: GiGi | September 21, 2008 5:49 PM

Obama changes positions according to polls: Perhaps you can afford to pay more but those folks in the 31K-45K can not.
Obama’s give-and-take tax policy results in marginal tax rates of 34 percent to 39 percent in the $31,000 to $45,000 income range. That’s an increase of 13 percentage points or more from the current rates.
What accounts for the higher rates? First, Obama expands the maximum child and dependent care credit for families with one young child from $1,050 to $1,500 and phases down the credit over a longer income range, from $30,000 to $58,000. Throughout this income range, the credit is phasing out at a rate of $30 per $1,000 of income, thus raising the effective tax rate by 3 percentage points. Obama also makes certain credits refundable, which introduces a tax penalty of 10 percent or 15 percent, depending on the income bracket.
While Obama has publicly embraced a tax rate of 40 percent for couples earning over $350,000, his tax policies would result in a staggering 45 percent effective marginal rate in the $110,000 to $120,000 income range for this family. That is 11 percentage points higher than under current law. http://www.american.com/archive/2008/august-08-08/the-folly-of-obama2019s-tax-plan \

Posted by: OHVotesMcCainPalin | September 21, 2008 5:49 PM

I do not have access to McCain's medical records so I do not know what his current status is with melanoma. I do know however if his cancer was not caught in time, he would not be running a campaign. My 46 year old brother passed away last year from Melanoma. Melanoma is the most cureable cancer if caught in time.

Posted by: PalinPower | September 21, 2008 5:47 PM

I don't Care if somebodies father was a Muslim. I do care if the are a Creationist.

Posted by: anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:46 PM

This is not a post Clinton soap Opera...how demeaning to these women. Frankly, it matters little to me how these women are bashed here for starting an organization that will really begin to represent us in a grassroots way.

I do not trust Obama or the McCain ticket to represent me. Men have always been my president and Obama's so called record represents too little real change and a lot of rhetoric. McKinney may have to get my vote this time.

I salute the New Agenda. For a long while now I have been dissatisfied with N.O.W. as they became more about being a business and embedded themselves in party politics. There are issues facing women today that need to come front and center. Domestic Violence, rape, "honor" killings that even go on in Europe and North America in some cases. FGM. Sexual slavery, the importing of women for sale into the United States, immigrant women being sold into the U.S. to work as domestics. Addressing these issues is vital. We lose more women to violence every year than we have lost in the Iraq war combined. Speaking of that, women in the military are facing intimidation on bases and rape. These issues are raised yet we see no one marching around in outrage carrying signs to protest it. N.O.W. has not stepped up and has clearly decided to support a candidate who used, and benefited from misogyny in the media to "win" against a women with far more qualifications than he has. Qualifications the he belittled while taking credit for community organizing. I suppose working on womens and children's issues of education, health and abuse for most of her life don't qualify as "experience" to Obama but, all his thin resume is to be counted. Such arrogance and out right lies to diminish this woman all to puff himself up.

This is only about Clinton in that N.O.W. broke with it's own when it endorsed someone who indeed did exploit rampant sexism to his advantage. Good bye to all that indeed.

It makes little difference to me whether there are people who come against the New Agenda. Alice Paul's National Women's Party broke with the long standing women's group of her day and got women the right to vote. They were soundly criticized too. It never stopped them.

Thank you New Agenda for offering us an alternative, a new voice and a long awaited real voice in these matters.

I'm with you all the way.

Posted by: Alice | September 21, 2008 5:46 PM

The issues speak louder than the gender of candidates. Barak Obama and Joe Biden express greater feminity and understanding of gender issues than certain candidates who may have different physical expressions of gender.

I like to be able to promote choice in child bearing. I am against war. I believe that human beings are respect worthy. They have an inalienable right to believe differently than me. I am not on a mission from anyone. I am not acting due to blessings from beneficent deities. I do not want to judge nor do I want to be judged. etc.

Posted by: teresa caruthers | September 21, 2008 5:45 PM

Great Question
Palin Power- can you answer me this- does McCain have Metastatic Melanoma or not:

Posted by: mimi | September 21, 2008 5:45 PM

My confidence in McCain: 1)I'm confident he won't tax the heck out of me; 2)I'm confident he will protect America; 3)I'm more than confident with his commitment and dedication to America.
Below are my reasons for not supporting Obama on items 2 & 3 above.
"His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class." "he was born to a line of Muslim males makes him born a Muslim. Further, all children born with an Arabic name based on the H-S-N trilateral root (Hussein, Hassan, and others) can be assumed to be Muslim, so they will understand Obama's full name, Barack Hussein Obama, to proclaim him a born Muslim." Obama's own words ... "I went to school. But I didn't practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues."What is Obama's true connection to Islam and what implications might this have for an Obama presidency? If he has no connections to Muslim's, then how is it that he has insight into how these folks think? The above are not my words ... see link: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286

"Question: Was Barack Obama ever a Muslim? He says no, but the Associated Press found records that showed Obama was in school as a Muslim living in Indonesia and the Obama campaign can't explain why. Maybe it doesn't matter if Obama were a Muslim back then, but it does matter if he's not telling the truth about it now."
--www.exposeobama.com, June 2008.

The Muslims said they plan on destroying the United States from the inside out. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Posted by: OHVotesMcCainPalin | September 21, 2008 5:41 PM

2.) My Father Was A Goat Herder . . FACT: he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) My Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter . . . FACT: he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom . . . FACT: your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that and for more. Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers burned Christians' homes as well as men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took refuge. Obama supported his cousin before the election process here started. (Google 'Obama and Odinga')
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian . . .
FACT: she does her daily Salat prayers at 5 AM according to her own interviews. Christianity would not have supported her being one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili . . .
FACT: your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side, and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side.
While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family were mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
7.) I Never Practiced Islam . . .
FACT: you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years -- until you changed the year before running for public office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian . . .
FACT: you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: 'Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian . . .
FACT: not one former teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I lived In Indonesia, I have more foreign experience . . .
FACT: you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and could not speak the language.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs . . .
FACT: except for Africa and the Middle East, you have never been anywhere else on the planet and have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion . . .
FACT: you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify. Your classmates said you were just fine.
13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office . . .
FACT: Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life . FACT: Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 . . .
FACT: here you are, despite saying live on TV that you would not have enough experience by then -- and you are all about 'having experience first '.
16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate . . .
FACT: common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) I Was A Professor Of Law . . .
FACT: you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
18.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer . . .
FACT: you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill . . .
FACT: you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
20.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass . . .
FACT: it took just 14 days from start to finish.
21.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill . . .
FACT: your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation -- mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
22.) I Have Released My State Records . .
FACT: as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, including all the special interests pork hidden within.
23.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess . . .
FACT: you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself in your books.
24.) My Economics Bill Will Help America . .
FACT: your 111 economic policies were combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
25.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois . .
FACT: even your own supporters characterize your actions as careful rather than bold.
26.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year . . .
FACT: they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you after their creation by a fellow Senator, 'to assist you in a future bid for higher office'.
27.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA . . .
FACT: the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
28.) I Am Tough On Terrorism . . .
FACT: you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel.
29.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate . . .
FACT: you passed 26, most of which you didn't write.
30.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics . . .
FACT: you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
31.) I Don't Take PAC Money . . .
FACT: you take loads of it.
32.) I don't Have Lobbyists . . .
FACT: you have 47 lobbyists on staff, and counting.
33.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad . . .
FACT: your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

Posted by: PalinPower | September 21, 2008 5:40 PM

Palin Power- can you answer me this- does McCain have Metastatic Melanoma or not?

Posted by: Rachel | September 21, 2008 5:39 PM

Whatever, put this article about Palin in your book and ban it along with a billion others.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1117009&srvc=2008campaign&position=15

Censor ban pretty much the same thing

Posted by: Facts | September 21, 2008 5:38 PM

Palin power- Nex, you will saying she's an evolutionist and believes in effective sex education. Right.

Posted by: rachel | September 21, 2008 5:37 PM

I am so sick of the Republican Trolls Who blog And spread wild lies. The start ridiculous groups like PUMA and the NEW Agenda. Americans should stop listening to the idiots and liersv from the Republican Party.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:35 PM

Hey Rachel, uhhhh check your facts. she never banned any books. not one. never happened. You are an Obama-lover, plain and simple. Admit that nothing can change your mind but don't hang lies out there as a reason ... makes you look foolish.

Posted by: PalinPower | September 21, 2008 5:32 PM

BJ-
I don't idiots like Sarah Palin running the country. I want sound thinking adults in control of the policies of this country.
McSame/Palin= Creationism, Book Burners, Abstinence Sex Education, Seeing Russia from an AL island Foreign Policy Experience, Lies. Who wants to elect a 72 year old with Metastatic Melanoma? NOT ME

Posted by: Rachel | September 21, 2008 5:26 PM

Elitist Lynn Forester de Rothschild will surely bring in all the white collar workers after calling them "rednecks." She surely is not out of touch. It's probably helping Obama anyhow b/c white collar workers are asking who is this lady? Oh she's loaded and endorsed McCain

I heard an press conference by her on public radio when asked for her opinion of Palin she said "she's one cool lady"-wtf I supposed to vote for her b/c some rich socialite thinks she is cool in addition to the fact she went on and on about how Roe vs. Wade will never be overturned when in fact w/McCain's opinion it should be.

Palin would never have an abortion and IF ELECTED THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT APPOINT JUSTICES WHO ARE AS CONSERVATIVE IF NOT MORE AS THEY ARE WHEREIN abortion could be restricted or abolished.

If she's such a feminist why risk it???
Nice elitist endorsement down the drain McCain.

She thinks just b/c Palin has the same parts as Hillary she should be leader of the free world.

HILLARY IS NOT ENDORSING MCCAIN AND OBVIOUSLY NOT TALKING TO YOU. Ms. I graduated from Colombia and speak for all women because I will benefit from McCain tax plan since I make over 250k a year.

Whatever. All this squabbling and bitterness among these women sends a very strange message to the American public.

If she loves McCain so much than she is obviously endorsing most of the last 8 years with Bush.

Yeah will there are alot of grassroots women's groups who don't make over 250k a year who support Obama and loathe Palin.

Get a life and give some of that money back to us real taxpayers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:21 PM

Tania You are so correct!
"I don't want to punish anybody. I want to know that the POTUS is qualified. I don't want a abstinance only sex education proponent in the position of naming the next Supreme Court justice. I don't want a creationist in position of naming the Secretary of Education. I don't want a book banner defending her version of the Constitution. I don't want somebody who thinks seeing Russia from an Island is Foreign Policy Experience.

Get a Brain, this woman Creationist Palin will set back the clock to the Middle Ages.
And she is a total utter joke and and insult to any woman who has ever accomplished anything."

Posted by: anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:20 PM

Sarah Palin: a litany of lies and hypocrisy.

-She was for the Bridge to Nowhere,
before she was against it.

-She was for her 'salary cut', and later was against it, making it even higher.

-She was FOR artificial insemination, but all the time has been against it. She believe in popping kids REGARDLESS of what comes out, and what they do.

-And now she is a Wall Street expert!

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 21, 2008 5:09 PM

Unfortunately, many pro-Hilary supporters are forgetting that the vast majority of Democrats in this past primary season who voted AGAINST Senator Clinton because of her vote on the immoral Bush war in Iraq.

It is an insult to the American people for John McCane to have asked the unqualified and inexperienced Sarah Palin to be on the GOP ticket.

A look at John McCain's voting record is all that any female voter needs to consider. The Senator from Arizona voted AGAINST increasing the minimum wage on 19 different occasions during his tenure. It is now absurd to believe that women would now vote for John McCain given his long history of voting against women's issues.

Women are also wise enough to understand that John McCain's support for the concept of privatizing Social Security is also an anti-woman position. Women are far more dependent on Social Security than are men and a McCain administration would not be beneficial to anyone who expects to get a Social Security check.

John McCain is also against many issues that affect children. Therefore, he has already lost the votes of educated mothers in this nation.

Posted by: Fl Voter | September 21, 2008 4:30 PM

Oddly Bush seems to have us both in a recession and socialism (the financial bailout), and you think McCain won't just pick up the conservative torch and run?
Not to mention the possibility of a Palin presidency if McCain falls ill.

"If you want a recession and socialism vote Obama.
If you want a job and capitalism vote McCain.
Only you can prevent socialism in America."

Posted by: Roger | September 21, 2008 3:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 3:43 PM

If you want a recession and socialism vote Obama.
If you want a job and capitalism vote McCain. 
Only you can prevent socialism in America.

Posted by: Roger | September 21, 2008 3:36 PM

To imply that ANY female (P/VP) candidate would automatically promote the interests of women is as foolish as to imply that ANY American would automatically promote the interests of Americans. Remember Rumsfeld and Cheney?

Posted by: Tao Zen | September 21, 2008 3:28 PM

BJ = Bitter PUMA

http://blog.pumapac.org/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 3:21 PM

It is quite obvious that the Obama Trolls with the same old talking points have come here to drone on with the same old rhetoric that they have ben taught at Obama Camp!

You can recognize them instantly- the always have somethings horrible to say about Hillary - as if she is not an American Women who deserves our respect and admiration for stepping up to the plate and taking on the good old boys and cracking that ceiling.

They always call anyone who disagrees with their opinion a Republican as if Republicans are not all Americans. They always attack people who have different religious beliefs in order to further divided this country into us vs. them.

Anyone who disagrees is either a traitor or a racist and deserves to be treated like dirt- what have we become to talk to each other like this? The degrading language and remarks will go down in History - what will our ancestors think of us?

Oh you can tell an Obamite by the very language they use- it is always divisive- - ill manered - and destructive towards their fellow citizens. Is that the change we want?

They are always out there trying to prove that any opinion but there's is a conspiracy by the Republicans. They totally have a vicious answer to rebut anything you question and are ready with answers - they have been taught - very very well. Do not bother to engage them- they will win the argument - they are Obots and they are well trained - Just walk away - waste no time - that is how we win and they loose. Give them no forum. Do not respond - Do not read it - It is recognizable - so pass it by. On the street walk away.

I have been assaulted, spat at, called vicious names such as melodramtic bitter old crone . I have been told I am insane or must be off my drugs. I have been disrespected and told I am menopausal by these people who I have never met. Such disrespect in America where I am supposed to have Freedom of Speech, I am ridiculed openly for having and expressing an opinion!

I know who I am - who I worked for - who I gave money to and who I voted for all these years and never once for a republican no not once- but I will this year because these Obamaites are not the Democrats of my Mother and my Father.

These are Obamacrats and this change is not good for our country nor for women. We do not need more slash and burn politics - we need healing and to become the UNITED STATES once more. Bush was not the Uniter and neither is Obama.

The DNC Killed democray this year - let's put it out of it's misery so it can rise again with new and cleaner people to lead it. Lets not become what we hate - or is it really too late?

Just scan these comments and see for yourself what these obamites sound like - the language they use - the hatred they show - the disdane for others they cleary have. Is this the America you want for your children and grandchildren? Not I!

Posted by: BJ | September 21, 2008 3:05 PM

"Lawmakers: Politics 'hijacked' Alaska
Top legislators say McCain campaign effort an attempt to stifle state Troopergate investigation

The presidential campaign of Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin has taken effective charge of the Alaska state government's response to the legislative investigation into abuse of power allegations against Palin.

An investigation that began on a bipartisan basis with several pledges from Palin to participate, is now being manipulated to protect Palin by campaign attorneys who appear to be directing the Palin administration's response, top legislators say.

"The state of Alaska and the Alaska Attorney General's Office don't need any help from a national campaign," said Sen. President Lyda Green, R-Wasilla.

Green said the Palin administration's response seems more geared to help the McCain campaign by shutting down the investigation that's become known as "Troopergate" than informing the Alaska public. "

http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/092108/sta_334953142.shtml

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:55 PM

Any guess as to where that 80% state approval rating sits now for Palin?

"Alaskans angered that Palin is off-limits

"Why did the McCain campaign take over the governor's office?" the Anchorage Daily News demanded in an editorial Saturday. "Is it too much to ask that Alaska's governor speak for herself, directly to Alaskans, about her actions as Alaska's governor?"

"Is this going to dilute her image as a maverick who will clean out the rascals from their perches of power, when she herself cannot tolerate questions into her behavior, investigations into the firing of a public safety commissioner?" said Gerald McBeath, political science professor at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks

""Is this going to dilute her image as a maverick who will clean out the rascals from their perches of power, when she herself cannot tolerate questions into her behavior, investigations into the firing of a public safety commissioner?" said Gerald McBeath, political science professor at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks"

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-troopergate21-2008sep21,0,2158301.story

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:50 PM

A little preferential treatment for Palin?

"The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:43 PM

"Johnson would go on to work at three different jobs over the next five years, and she said that each time, McCain would contact her boss and try to get her removed.'"

Substitute Wooten for Johnson and Palin for McCain and you have an interesting coincidence. Maybe McCain and Palin have more in common than anyone thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:37 PM

Aspergirl, McCain has a fortune, he can afford to pay employees more just to show up Obama.

But look at this: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004193120_mccain21.html


And this concerns me extremely. Karen Johnson:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/309/story/51660.html

'Karen Johnson, then Mecham's secretary and now an Arizona state senator, recalled how McCain told Mecham that he was "causing the party a lot of problems" and was an embarrassment to the party.

"Sen. McCain got very angry," Johnson recalled, "and I said, 'Why are you talking to the governor like this? You're causing problems yourself. You're an embarrassment.' "

Johnson would go on to work at three different jobs over the next five years, and she said that each time, McCain would contact her boss and try to get her removed.'

That says it all. Sure, he's about equality for women in workplace. NO male interviewed said that they had been targeted for retaliation. But Karen Johnson wasn't alone in telling this story.

And McCain has refused to vote for bills that would make it easier to sue for sexual harrassment-- for a very good reason. He is very probably a serial sexual harrasser in the workplace.

Consider his history of having affairs while married to his first wife, who was disabled by a car accident, for heaven's sake. SHE gets a very generous alimony and her medical bills paid for life. He can afford it being married to Cindy.

There's a difference between "fair pay" and "hush money." I would sooner work for Obama than McCain even at the salary disparaties quited. Some things money can't make up for.

Posted by: Interesting | September 21, 2008 2:22 PM

"Exclusive: New Doubts Over Palin's Troopergate Claims
Internal Government Document Contradicts Sarah Palin, Campaign

An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin's most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into "Troopergate.""

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 1:53 PM

"Misleading Mailers Descend on Swing States

Short on detail or just plain wrong, mailings with GOP return addresses are sowing confusion on voting status with fewer than two months before the big day."

http://www.miller-mccune.com/article/705

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94818483

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 1:37 PM

BJ "Let’s not punish Sarah"

I don't want to punish anybody. I want to know that the POTUS is qualified. I don't want a abstinance only sex education proponent in the position of naming the next Supreme Court justice. I don't want a creationist in position of naming the Secretary of Education. I don't want a book banner defending her version of the Constitution. I don't want somebody who thinks seeing Russia from an Island is Foreign Policy Experience.

Get a Brain, this woman Creationist Palin will set back the clock to the Middle Ages.
And she is a total utter joke and and insult to any woman who has ever accomplished anything.

Posted by: tonia | September 21, 2008 1:30 PM

After reading the sites for PUMAs and the New Agenda, I can safely say that Republican men are probably the largest group of members in these two groups. Oh yeah, maybe there little women are also allowed to join.

Posted by: erica | September 21, 2008 1:23 PM

The person who almost single handedly turned back the Equal Rights Amendment 25 years ago was Phyllis Schlafly. If she's still kicking maybe the New Agenda can draft her for president. Has all the requisite body parts.

Posted by: Ben | September 21, 2008 1:22 PM

As I see it, this New Agenda, is a group of white rich women who can't think or care about the detrimental outcome of the elections. Loser every last one.

Posted by: stephanie | September 21, 2008 1:16 PM

Why I joined the New Agenda?
Because I am a republican Troll that why

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 1:12 PM

I am a sore loser, rascist, and now a creationist. I do as I am told by my husband, I am a self hater and am going to vote for McSame.

Posted by: Puma against Intelligence | September 21, 2008 1:08 PM


Why I joined The Nnew Agenda.

Along with an Open Letter of warning to Women Count; GO NON PARTISAN.

(I am explicitly ignoring NOW, NARAL, Emily's List and the Gloria's Steinem and Allred these antiquated folks do not speak for today's women and are in fact holding us back big time. They say its not about one woman and they are right - its about all of us that are still not getting the respect we deserve- not the money the money nor the 55% representation in high offices!)

Another Rant by BettyJean Kling

To Women Count the only other viable group for women today.

As you know when you gals first got started, I was right there with you, we were all on your side and I kicked in a few bucks. But I've been worried about whether you would stick with the Dems and I have been holding back.

I thank you for that lovely luncheon in Denver and I got to shake Hillary’s hand but I also had to listen to the call for Unity to the Dems who never lifted a hand as you well know – so I won’t belabor it. Suffice it to say I am a PUMA and I will not unify with a party that holds me hostage to a few issues but slashes all my other rights and degrades and humiliates the best damned candidate they had.

I went to you site today and while you are willing to defend Sarah against sexism I detect you are also cautioning us to remember she is a Republican and reminding us to keep her right wing policies in mind – as if anyone will let us forget them. Are you still leaning left?

Much will be said and written in the days ahead about Gov. Palin's views on issues, and we urge you to consider these positions with depth and thoughtfulness - she is anti-choice, pro-gun, and pro-big oil.

Since you asked for our opinion and if you visit my blog http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/choice-and-change/ and read the comments I and others are getting you will see that women are tired of choosing one side or the other and want to be free of this reminder altogether now.

I was hoping you WomenCount would stay neutral. I have been barraged by women group mail and email that berates the right and their views and then I get the same treatment from the left denigrating the left for theirs. It will never end and we will never move forward or be free so long as we are held hostage to this game. I must say that women today are only exposed to the extremes from both sides and that is simply not fair. This is what keeps women from truly moving ahead. Can’t we just be women instead of left or right – just this once – can we try it on for size and see if we like the way it fits?

I have just joined The New Agenda which promises to be non partisan. You can either lean toward the Dems or come to the middle but my support both financially and through my outreach on blog talk radio, my newsletters, my website, my email and blogs – I am going concentrate my efforts and support toward those where women will be most empowered to be free and not held back nor compelled to walk lockstep with others against gaining positions in government which will truly give them the power to chart their own destinies and that of their daughters and granddaughters.

If you agree that we need women’s groups to be non partisan, reach out to the founders of Women Count and encourage them to Free US Now and let us choose without prejudice. I know these women and their hearts are in the right place. They started out like us wanting things to be fair for Hillary but we are all women and it needs to be fair for all of us. The DNC made it impossible for Hillary- Let’s not punish Sarah and all women for god knows how long while we reward the DNC at the same time for what they did! And if any woman dares to buck it up and run again if we loose this shot - Who will dare to to put one on the ticket again after this?
It's now or -- well you tell me - when ? In another 24 years? Free US Now

Posted by: BJ | September 21, 2008 1:08 PM

Isn't it odd Tom that we have one party with a woman candidate, and the other party for woman's rights.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 1:07 PM

It's astounding -- A bipartisan article that questions why a "women's" group would end up abandoning their name is met with the most venal, vicious, specious attack comments from both sides. Without addressing the issue of why the National Organization of Women ought not to be renamed the National Organization of Democratic Supporters.

Whoever wins this athletic contest, I wish it to be over so discourse can change from party talking points and untruths to folks thinking and opining. Until after the election, consider everything you read, including this, to be an outright biased lie.

Posted by: Tom Mariner | September 21, 2008 1:02 PM

They need to get over this or we will not put Obama in the White House. They can all go take out their frustrations at http://www.bop-o-rama.com, but come on, vote for Obama!!

20 people X 60 bops per minute=1200 bops per minute.

Obama '08

Posted by: RStone | September 21, 2008 1:01 PM

Canadian, you state
"Little known fact, it was Lieberman who got Obama into the senate, and now Lieberman has gone away from him."

You better let Obama, Durbin, Dashcle and Kerry know about this bizarre claim of yours. And I thought Canadian were smart?!

Posted by: mimi | September 21, 2008 12:58 PM

Non partisan?

More like the New Puma Agenda, but that is nothing really new.

I really respect Hillary and feel she doesn't need Obama to lose in 2008 for her to win in 2012. I am not willing to risk our supreme court, right to choose, economy, and the chance of having Palin as president, just because I am bitter about Hillary's loss in the primaries.


"Many of the women who attended The New Agenda's first meeting got to know each other as a result working with pro-Hillary groups. Attendees included founding members of such groups as Together4US, Party Unity My Ass (PUMA), IOwnMyVote, Just Say No Deal and Vote Democracy '08.

"This group is comprised of women who are "gravely concerned about the mistreatment of Hillary Clinton during the primary season, and the passion and emotion that resulted from Hillary's mistreatment brought us together.," says Siskind."

http://www.hillarygreenmountain.com/2008/08/women-form-the-new-agenda.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 12:58 PM

Zoe- you go girl- great post
"Are those women out of their minds? They are prepared to jeopardise billions of lives worldwide (the next president of USA's decisions will affect other nations) just because they are upset? How immature? The "Group", want other women to vote for Palin just because she has "t...ts" and a "vag....a"? Give me a break! That's an insult to women worldwide! What about her records or policies? Shall women vote for any Bimbo, just because she's female? Hillary Clinton is experienced, classy and has REAL records for advocating for women. All Hillary Clinton supporters are not that stupid! They won't vote for "ANY" Mama just because she's female"

Posted by: Obamamama | September 21, 2008 12:53 PM

McCain probably has late stage Alzheimers, thus his flip flopping,PTSD and Metastatic Melanoma. An internist/psychiatrist/oncologist best patient.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 12:48 PM

Mimi- Great Post
"McSAme the flip flopper is the worse thing for this country, wait, not worse than Creationist Palin- and he has a 90% of not surviving his first term- well at least that's the same average that he votes with Bush."
Thanks for thinking

Posted by: Brian | September 21, 2008 12:45 PM

Will somebody please explain to me why McCain won't release his medical records. Does he have late Stage Alzeimhers or only Metastatic Melanoma?

Posted by: Ricardo | September 21, 2008 12:42 PM

JakeD Didn't see MTP but do see where Pelosi wants to add another stimulus package to this reform package. People need to call their Congress person on Monday and stop this nonsense of more election-time pork barrel spending which we can't afford. Dems are still trying to get in their political election points with taxpayer money while the rest of us are trying to keep the country afloat. Pelosi and Reid need to go.

Posted by: betty | September 21, 2008 12:40 PM

Finally a non partisan womans group- Move Over NOW _ NARAL_ emily's list and hers is an warning to To Women Count

As you know when you gals first got started, I was right there with you, we were all on your side and I kicked in a money. But then I got worried about whether you would stick with the Dems and I have been holding back.

I thank you for that lovely luncheon in Denver and I got to shake Hillary’s hand but I also had to listen to the call for Unity to the Dems who never lifted a hand as you well know – so I won’t belabor it. Suffice it to say I am a PUMA and I will not unify with a party that holds me hostage to a few issues but slashes all my other rights and degrades and humiliates the best damned candidate they had.

I went to you site today and while you are willing to defend Sarah against sexism I detect you are also cautioning us to remember she is a Republican and reminding us to keep her right wing policies in mind – as if anyone will let us forget them. Are you still leaning left?

Much will be said and written in the days ahead about Gov. Palin's views on issues, and we urge you to consider these positions with depth and thoughtfulness - she is anti-choice, pro-gun, and pro-big oil.

Since you asked for our opinion and if you visit my blog http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/choice-and-change/ and read the comments I and others are getting you will see that women are tired of choosing one side or the other and want to be free of this reminder altogether now.

I was hoping you WomenCount would stay neutral. Not like those other groups that have obviously sold out. I have been barraged by women group mail and email that berates the right and their views and then I get the same treatment from the left denigrating the left for theirs. It will never end and we will never move forward or be free so long as we are held hostage to this game. I must say that women today are only exposed to the extremes from both sides and that is simply not fair. This is what keeps women from truly moving ahead. Can’t we just be women instead of left or right – just this once – can we try it on for size and see if we like the way it fits?

I have just joined The New Agenda which promises to be non partisan. You can either lean toward the Dems or come to the middle but my support both financially and through my outreach on blog talk radio, my newsletters, my website, my email and blogs – I am going concentrate my efforts and support toward those where women will be most empowered to be free and not held back nor compelled to walk lockstep with others against gaining positions in government which will truly give them the power to chart their own destinies and that of their daughters and granddaughters.

If you agree that we need women’s groups to be non partisan, Quit the old ones that keep you back and reach out to the founders of Women Count and encourage them to Free US Now and let us choose without prejudice. I know these women and their hearts are in the right place. They started out like us wanting things to be fair for Hillary but we are all women and it needs to be fair for all of us. The DNC made it impossible for Hillary- Let’s not punish Sarah and all women for god knows how long while we reward the DNC at the same time for what they did! Who will dare to run a woman again after this?

Bettyjean Kling Free-US-Now dot comm

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 12:36 PM

“This is somebody who’s been in Congress for twenty-six years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign, and now he tells us that he’s the one who will take on the ol' boy network,”Obama said before a crowd in Elko, Nev.

"The ol’ boy network? In the McCain campaign, that’s called a staff meeting," Obama said.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 12:36 PM

"It doesn't matter what's between their ears, only what's between their legs."

Best slogan yet for the Obama/Biden old boys ticket.

Posted by: Old Boys | September 21, 2008 12:29 PM

Obama seems to have early onset of Alzhiemer's. He often gets confused and forgets if he is running against McCain or Palin.

Posted by: No Plan Obama | September 21, 2008 12:26 PM

Betty:

Paulson and Bloomberg were great on MTP. Once again, it's the GOP and Independents who have to do the hard, adult work.

Posted by: JakeD | September 21, 2008 12:00 PM

Referring to the remarks about McCain and his flip-flop on the financial crisis. As usual, Obama playing it safe and won't release his big financial plan until later. Meaning as usual, he is playing it safe and won't release his "plan" until after the crisis is resolved and then he can say "I told you so" and lecture us some more all the while he is the#2 guy running on Fannie Mae lobbying money. Of course, we have the Democrat congress that wanted to shut their doors and head for the hills with Harry Reid running in circles screaming "We have no clue what to do!!!". Then the Bush admin steps in with a plan, calms Congress and the world markets. Next week the Dems will come out still accusing Bush (Not Billy Boy Clinton who repealed Glass-Seagall in 1999) for this mess and taking credit for resolving it. Same ole story from these Dems and uninformed people still buy it. That's why we are in this mess.

Posted by: Betty | September 21, 2008 11:30 AM

Did anyone else watch MTP this morning?

Posted by: JakeD | September 21, 2008 11:06 AM

BRIAN:

No "THINKING" person? Where did YOU graduate from law school?

Posted by: JakeD | September 21, 2008 11:02 AM

Brain- I agree
McSAme the flip flopper is the worse thing for this country, wait, not worse than Creationist Palin- and he has a 90% of not surviving his first term- well at least that's the same average that he votes with Bush.

Posted by: mimi | September 21, 2008 10:59 AM

Posted by: LKM | September 21, 2008 10:48 AM

Besides being a beuty queeen, I am a self hating woman, it took me 6 years and 5 colleges to graduate from college- I was having too much fun to study and I too can be POTUS, I believe creationism, burning books, abstinence sex education.

Posted by: bimbo | September 21, 2008 10:35 AM

McSame- he voted with Bush 90%, he wants to stay in Iraq 100 years, he "doesn't understand the economy", he is 72 years old, like has PTSD, Metastatic Melanoma, Has a creationist as a VP choice, has Gramm- architect of the current economic downfall as his "advisor", Wow- any thinking Americans on board for this team?

Having read the blogs, I am now sure that there is NO THINKING AMERICAN ON BOARD for MCSAME/PALIN- only self hating women, rascists, creationism and idiots.

Posted by: BRIAN | September 21, 2008 10:30 AM

jblee:

Gov. Palin is MORE qualified to be President than Sen. Obama. So, no, I am not "scared" if McCain-Palin win.

Posted by: JakeD | September 21, 2008 10:30 AM

What is the purpose of the NOW organization really? It must be to promote only Democratic women and the abortion issue. This is a sad, worthless organization that has never done anything to help women. It should have it's tax exempt status removed as this is proof it is a biased Democratic organization. People need to know that partial birth abortion really means which is: pulling a baby out of its mothers womb except for the head, killing the baby then by puncturing the brain and sucking the baby's brain out. The name partial birth abortion tries to cover up what this really is and that is murder. That is one of the many liberal stances Mr Obama says is okay. Covering two topics here but this organization and the Democratic party are tied together over this legalized murder option until no else matters to them.

Posted by: Joan | September 21, 2008 10:13 AM

These now women and PUMA need to get over this or we will not put Obama in the White House. They can all go take out their frustrations at http://www.bop-o-rama.com, but come on, vote for Obama!! Let's get McCain over 800,000 today. Team Obama! If we can get 20 team members on McCain at the same time we can add 1200 bops per minute to his total.

Obama '08

Posted by: RStone | September 21, 2008 9:26 AM

I see Canadian has been to the donut shop early this morning. How quaint.

What a useful argument, if a woman is against Palin and McCain, they must hate themselves. Now there is indisputable logic.

Posted by: usa3 | September 21, 2008 9:20 AM

Posted by: brock101 | September 21, 2008 9:18 AM

go to therealmccain.com

Posted by: brock101 | September 21, 2008 9:16 AM

Zoe you sound like a jealous self-hating woman. What about Obama's record and policies? The media is so biased they rarely mention his lack of experience or the fact that he rarely voted for or against anything. His policies aren't even his own, all he has is "Chope" (change and hope) somehow if he says them a million times people will be sucked into that propaganda and actually believe him when he is unable to accomplish anything of substance. Little known fact, it was Lieberman who got Obama into the senate, and now Lieberman has gone away from him...I wonder why...

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 8:40 AM

Are those women out of their minds? They are prepared to jeopardise billions of lives worldwide (the next president of USA's decisions will affect other nations) just because they are upset? How immature? The "Group", want other women to vote for Palin just because she has "t...ts" and a "vag....a"? Give me a break! That's an insult to women worldwide! What about her records or policies? Shall women vote for any Bimbo, just because she's female? Hillary Clinton is experienced, classy and has REAL records for advocating for women. All Hillary Clinton supporters are not that stupid! They won't vote for "ANY" Mama just because she's female.

Posted by: Zoe | September 21, 2008 7:22 AM

Speaking of rumours about Palin, here's a fun source that debunks them: www.palinrumors.com/

This leads to Charles Martin's blog with an enormous number of rumours all in one entry and its comments (and one auxiliary entry iirc). All very well sourced, though those links won't come through here. Samples:

#10 No, Willow and Piper aren’t named for witches on TV. Among other things, Willow was born before Buffy came on TV, and Piper was born before Charmed was a popular girls name in 1994. In any case, try to settle on one theory, okay: she can’t both be a witch and be a crazy AoG fundamentalist, can she?
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#64 Yes, she did put the Governors plane on eBay. No, that’s not how it was finally sold. Yes, McCain did say it wrong. Bad McCain.

Posted by: fsteele | September 21, 2008 4:21 AM

Posted by: KK | September 21, 2008 3:40 AM

Debt Service Increased 69 Percent Under Palin. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the total government debt service was $658,662. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—the debt service was $390,385. The increase was 69 percent. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1]

Palin Left Behind Almost $19 Million In Long-Term Debt, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the bonded long-term debt was $18,635,000. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—there was no general obligation debt. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10]

Long-Term Debt Was $3000 Per Capita When Palin Left, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the bonded long-term debt per capita was $2,938. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—there was no general obligation debt. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10]

When Palin Left Office, 6.24% of Government Spending Was On Debt Service, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the ratio of debt service to general government expenditures was 6.24 percent. There was no long-term debt before she took office. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 11]

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:51 AM

self-hating women won't support Sarah because she is an actual woman who is not a VICTIM. God invented feminism so ugly hags would feel they play a part in the world.

Posted by: Deborah Harry | September 21, 2008 2:42 AM

self-hating women won't support Sarah because she is an actual woman who is not a VICTIM. God invented feminism so ugly hags would feel they play a part in the world.

Posted by: Deborah Harry | September 21, 2008 2:38 AM

Palin Used Part of the City’s Funds from the Alaska Revenue Sharing Fund to Fund Anti-Abortion Center. In 1997, Palin signed an ordinance appropriating $2,354 in funds to the Valley Crisis Pregnancy Center from the State of Alaska Revenue Sharing fund. The Valley Crisis Pregnancy Center lists itself as an “abortion alternative” in the Yellow Pages. [Ordinance 97-23, 4/14/1997; AlaskaYellowPages.com]

Crisis Pregnancy Centers Are Known To Give Misleading and Often Inaccurate Information. A recent government investigation of pregnancy crisis centers found that “The centers provided false and misleading information about a link between abortion and breast cancer;” “The centers provided false and misleading information about the effect of abortion on future fertility;” “The centers provided false and misleading information about the mental health effects of abortion.” Planned Parenthood also says the centers offer free pregnancy tests but give ambiguous answers about the results, show shocking films or slide shows while patients wait for pregnancy results, make exaggerated promises of financial assistance, medical treatment, prenatal and postpartum care and refuse or fail to provide contraceptive information. [Committee on Government Reform, “False And Misleading Health Information Provided By Federally Funded Pregnancy Resource Centers,” 7/06; Planned Parenthood]

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:31 AM

Palin Used Part of the City’s Funds from the Alaska Revenue Sharing Fund to Fund Anti-Abortion Center. In 1997, Palin signed an ordinance appropriating $2,354 in funds to the Valley Crisis Pregnancy Center from the State of Alaska Revenue Sharing fund. The Valley Crisis Pregnancy Center lists itself as an “abortion alternative” in the Yellow Pages. [Ordinance 97-23, 4/14/1997; AlaskaYellowPages.com]

Crisis Pregnancy Centers Are Known To Give Misleading and Often Inaccurate Information. A recent government investigation of pregnancy crisis centers found that “The centers provided false and misleading information about a link between abortion and breast cancer;” “The centers provided false and misleading information about the effect of abortion on future fertility;” “The centers provided false and misleading information about the mental health effects of abortion.” Planned Parenthood also says the centers offer free pregnancy tests but give ambiguous answers about the results, show shocking films or slide shows while patients wait for pregnancy results, make exaggerated promises of financial assistance, medical treatment, prenatal and postpartum care and refuse or fail to provide contraceptive information. [Committee on Government Reform, “False And Misleading Health Information Provided By Federally Funded Pregnancy Resource Centers,” 7/06; Planned Parenthood]

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 2:28 AM

It's so true, we did have a women for a Priminister. Good for you America although ypor comment a bit rude. She lasted a few months. From Canada

Posted by: justada55+ | September 21, 2008 1:59 AM

Palin Signed Ordinance Exempting Personal Property From Taxes—But Created Vehicle
Registration Tax at the Same Time. In 1997, Palin signed an ordinance exempting personal property from the levy of the Wasilla personal property tax and establishing a motor vehicle registration tax. The ordinance said “motor vehicles shall be subject to the Matanuska-Susitna Borough motor vehicle registration tax, pursuant to MSB 3.15.035(B) levied and collected by the State in accordance with A.S. 28.10.431. As provided by A.S. 28.10.431(f), revenue received by the Matanuska-Susitna Borough shall be allocated to the city.” [Ordinance 97-18 sub, 12/19/97]


When Wasilla Eliminated Property, Other Taxes, They Were Made Up for By an Increase in Vehicle Tax Made up for “Most of It.” “Doing away with the taxes will cost the city about $93,000 a year in lost revenues, Palin said. But most of it will be made up by an increase in a vehicle tax the borough charges its residents. The Mat-Su Borough Assembly voted last year to increase the tax from $ 66 to $ 75 for a new car and from $8 to $35 for vehicles more than 7 years old. The tax is expected to generate about $2.1 million for the borough, of which about $ 70,000 will go to Wasilla, according to finance director Erling Nelson.” [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska),
12/24/97]

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 1:53 AM

"We cannot and will not sit idly by while another qualified candidate goes through what Senator Hillary Clinton had to endure," said Siskind
......................

She's kidding, right?

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

As I see it, Palin disqualified herself with this exchange. She's not the first to suggest that she has acquired foreign policy qualifications through proximity. Cindy & John McCain have said it. Their surrogates have said it. It was absurd every time, but seeing her repeat this talking point cemented my view that she has little self-respect and little respect for the office she is running for.

She knows little if anything about foreign policy that was written on a cue card for her in the past two weeks and she seems to pride herself in ignorance.

Qualified? Please.

And the comparison to Hillary Clinton simply doesn't hold water.


Posted by: Dave | September 21, 2008 1:51 AM

Anyone who would label the Democrats as sexists when the Repugnants have worn that title as a badge of honor is ludicrous and idiotic. Don't think people don't see through the whole Sarah Palin pick. It wasn't pick because she was qualified or the most qualified, it was a pick based on splitting the Clintonites apart and garnering the Bubba vote. Pure and simple. The shattering of the glass and sentimental choice as V.P. was strictly what it was for, publicity because McCain's Campaign wasn't getting any. Eventually Palin's star will fall the more she has to answer tough questions and then what?

Posted by: 2PACOLYPSE | September 21, 2008 1:26 AM

The filth written here about Governor Palin is completely false. She took on special interests in the oil industry and in the environmental community.

Palin is tough and she has the highest popularity rating of any Governor.

I hate the sexism that exists in the Democrat Party these days.

Posted by: Shirley from Michigan | September 21, 2008 1:18 AM

Senator Clinton was the front runner in the Democratic primary. It would have been much more sexist not to challenge her. And that is what happened, when she was challenged, not on her woman-hood, but how would she lead and what were her postions. She lost this election because she thought it would be over on February 5th.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 1:14 AM

The New Agenda and Siskind have it all wrong. And i am surprised and disappointed that they have such a narrow view of what is going on.

Thr primaries ended. New candidates are out there for us to decide which two will be best able to run this country. It is no longer just about sexism - that is an ongoing matter - in our workplaces and elsewhere - that must be constantly tackled and will exist long after this election is over. Look ladies, this election is bigger than you and The New Agenda - it's about the future of our country. It's about whether we will be governed by people who respect our constitutional rights, who abhor torture, who will restore out national credibility, who won't be trigger-happy with sovereign nations in the world that disagree with us. This election is important.

When you condemn NOW for endorsing Obama, your reasons for your condemnation are weak. Maybe NOW recognizes the dangers of a McCain/Palin presidency and feel the need to speakup and commit? So what if they had only endorsed women in elections - to me that's narrow and restricting - and I'm glad they are using their clout to express their choice. And in this election, NOW is absolutely right. The consequences are enormous.

All candidates are not equal - some are qualified, besides being blessed with intelligence and common sense. Some are not - and the judgments made on the GOP side are indication enough of how they will govern. Aren't you even a little bit scared if they are elected?

Posted by: jblee | September 21, 2008 1:14 AM

reforming equality, the Rove way...

895/899

Posted by: George W. McLiar | September 21, 2008 1:06 AM

john5750,

If only it was all was simple and clear cut as you wish to deceive yourself into believing but it isn't. By the way, who do you think is going to pay for the extra 2.5 percent tax on the oil? You are buddy, you in the rest of the 49 states.

Palin "took on" big oil by rehiring the people who were negotiating the contracts already but who quit after Murkowski, the prior republican governor Palin beat in the primaries, fired one of them. The rest quit in protest. She had very little actual involvement by all accounts.

As for the legislation you cite, go to factcheck.org, you'll see that the bill which was actually passed was changed and included a net increase in the taxes the oil companies have to pay as opposed to any break they get.

I know the facts hurt and you won't be convinced regardless, but hey, you gotta at least try right?

Posted by: NorthSlope | September 21, 2008 1:03 AM

just when you think that Dems couldn't POSSIBLY get any stupider, you run into this bunch.......

Posted by: barack

They thought they would reach down and meet the republicans on there own terms for a change.

Posted by: john5750 | September 21, 2008 12:52 AM

just when we thought you went away you wrote again.. saying the same thing.. I think somebody needs a hug from a gay guy.. Its ok he will be gentle... thats it make nice

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:50 AM

Canadian Palin didn't need anyone's help.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 21, 2008 12:49 AM

just when you think that Dems couldn't POSSIBLY get any stupider, you run into this bunch.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY

Posted by: B.O. | September 21, 2008 12:48 AM

oh I almost forgot... this article was a waste of time.. You really could not find anything better to write about? I think I should get paid because my comments are better than this babble chatty cathy cr@p..
Washington Post you owe me!

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:48 AM

just when you think that Dems couldn't POSSIBLY get any stupider, you run into this bunch.......

Posted by: barack | September 21, 2008 12:45 AM

We are busy fix your own mess.

PS.. We are voting for Obama-Biden dont tell the Christians...

Posted by: GOD and JESUS | September 21, 2008 12:43 AM

Canadian Palin didn't need anyone's help.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 21, 2008 12:43 AM

The bible say any man who sows his seed in another man's rectum will surely die.

There is only one man who can fix our country and that man is God and Jesus.

God and Jesus for president '08

Posted by: God and Jesus for President | September 21, 2008 12:40 AM

Palin sought more taxes and more development from oil companies.

In her first speech as Sen. John McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin claimed a credential that might resonate with a nation blanching at the cost of gasoline — a record of taking on Big Oil.

'Along with fellow reformers in the great state of Alaska, as governor, I've stood up to the old politics as usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies, and the good-old-boy network,' Palin said after McCain introduced her to the nation on Aug. 29, 2008.

'When oil and gas prices went up so dramatically and the state revenues followed with that increase, I sent a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska. And we are now — we're now embarking on a $40-billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence.'

We've already checked her claim that she sent'"a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska.' We ruled it True.

So here we'll examine whether she really stood up to the big oil companies, some of the most influential players in Alaska's political scene.

Palin fought to raise taxes on oil companies. Alaska gets about 85 percent of its state revenue from oil taxes, and as fuel prices skyrocketed, Palin complained the state wasn't getting its share of the windfall. She successfully pushed for a law that raised taxes on oil profits to 25 percent from 22.5, winning passage in the State Legislature in November 2007. The increase amounted to an estimated $1.6-billion annually more for the state.

Oil companies had opposed the increase, with executives saying it would discourage them from investing in the state. BP Alaska president Doug Suttles said after the Legislature passed the increase: "I can only hope that once the impact of this legislation is clear, the administration and the Legislature will revisit the issue."

So yes, with respect to taxes, Palin stood up to big oil companies.

Palin has also sparred with big oil companies over who gets to build a pipeline to carry natural gas to market from Alaska's North Slope. The fields there have enormous gas reserves, but so far they have remained largely untapped due to the lack of a pipeline. Palin's predecessor, Frank Murkowski, supported a contract between the state and BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil to develop the pipeline. Palin opposed that, promising to consider other companies.

Indeed, after she was elected she solicited other bids, and ended up supporting a proposal by TransCanada Corp. to build a 1,715-mile pipeline down the Alaska Highway and through Canada. Exxon, ConocoPhillips and BP all criticized Palin's move to give the job to the Calgary-based company.

'She has taken an independent position and she has been protective of state sovereignty,' said Gerald McBeath, political science professor at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.

So in the pipeline battle as well, Palin took on big oil.

Palin also continued efforts Murkowski had launched to take back leases the state had awarded to Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and ConocoPhillips in the giant Point Thomson oil and gas field. Alaska officials were annoyed that the companies had not developed the field, which would boost state revenue. The companies said the fields posed technical challenges.

In that respect as well, Palin stood up to big oil.


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Obama Voted For Bush/Cheney Energy Bill

OBAMA'S SUPPORT FOR BUSH/CHENEY ENERGY POLICY

Sen. Obama voted for the 2005 Energy Bill, written in secret by Vice President Cheney and the energy lobby.

Thomas Friedman referred to the bill as "the sum of all lobbies."

U.S. PIRG noted that the bill's "heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC."

The Washington Post editorialized that the bill was a "piñata of perks for energy industries." Indeed, the bill contained $6 billion in subsidies to the oil and gas industry and $12 billion to the nuclear power industry.

Although Sen. Obama voted for the legislation, he has spoken as if he opposed it on the campaign trail, criticizing it repeatedly.

At a presidential debate he said "You can look at how Dick Cheney did his energy policy…he met with oil and gas companies forty times, and that's how they put together our energy policy." He's attributed the failure of our current energy policy to Congress's 'failure to stand up to the lobbyists.'

Sen. Obama's rhetoric blasting the policies of Vice President Dick Cheney and energy lobbyists can be stirring. But Obama's actions haven't matched his words.

Read the details:
U.S. PIRG:''The [2005 Energy Bill] energy law's heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC':

'The new energy law’s heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of ExxonMobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC.'

[U.S. Public Interest Research Group, 'How Exxon Mobil and the Oil Industry Benefit from the 2005 Energy Bill,' 8/2005]

Washington Post: 2005 Energy Bill was 'a piñata of perks for energy industries': The Washington Post said, '…The energy bill, touted as a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil or moderate gasoline prices, has been turned into a piñata of perks for energy industries'" [Washington Post, 7/30/05]

Energy Bill gave $6 billion in subsidies to oil & gas industry and $12 billion in subsidies to nuclear power industry: [Public Citizen, 'The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy,' citizen.org]

HILLARY AND McCAIN DID NOT VOTE FOR CHENEY'S GIFT TO BIG OIL

IF YOU LIKE BIG DICK CHENEY, YOU'LL LOVE LITTLE DICK OBAMA.

Posted by: john5750 | September 21, 2008 12:40 AM

80% of your economy my friend is the US... Yes canada is probably more aware of these elections and actual facts than the average American... You guys are sweat'n the whole NAFTA thing arent you, In all honesty they have a better blue collar work force up there and its not a huge cost disparity. I would be for cutting out mexico though.... They will work for dollars and put out cr@p product

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:40 AM

Mayberry Sarah, plus THIS, in the WH????

I DON'T THINK SOOOOOOOOOOOO..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY

Posted by: annmarie65 | September 21, 2008 12:37 AM

Go McCain!!!! and to all a good night.

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:34 AM

Jewel Khan,
you think democrats smell? I dont understand please explain..? Sometimes I smell does that mean I'm a democrat?

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:33 AM

Canada and the United States are very much connected on numerous levels. What happens there effects us. Believe it or not, Canada (not china) is America's biggest trading partner. We last had a woman prime minister in the 90's, how bout you?

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:33 AM

Posted by: BARACK"S FRIENDS | September 21, 2008 12:31 AM

it wouldnt be called the white house by then. What is with you Palin haters, youre obviously jealous. A woman in the high ranks of poitics, and has a family of five. shes an "extremist"? come on thats complete crap. the big 3 broadcast companies could make anyone look like the devil.

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:30 AM

INTELLIGENT women would never EVER vote for Mayberry Sarah, who believes, amoung other things, that dinasaurs, Adam and Eve, and snakes all played together in a sandpit 5000 years ago!
Are you people NUTS??!!

Posted by: sandra765 | September 21, 2008 12:29 AM

Why does Joe Biden have more hair growing on the top of his head now than he had 20 years ago?

Posted by: AsperGirl
****************************
The reason why I am asking is that I have a similar problem down there.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 21, 2008 12:29 AM

Yo dude, Canadian, why don't you make a run to the donut shop and ponder your own country's political situation. When was the last time Canada had a woman prime minister? You got enough problems to deal with in Canada, why don't you leave us to our own misery?

Posted by: usa3 | September 21, 2008 12:28 AM

I want Rich Leftist Europeans running America! - OBAMA 2008

Posted by: Kenneth L Standish | September 21, 2008 12:28 AM

thats why no one is really talking about obama not being american, because mccain could be in the same boat, so they cancel each other out.

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:26 AM

After Obama's Presidency is over,.....who will pay for fumigating the Whitehouse?

Posted by: Jewel Khan | September 21, 2008 12:26 AM

These are rich women w/ a lifelong sense of entitlement. Like Hillary most of them have had everything handed to them by husbands and daddies. They are irrelevant.
I just wish Hillary would rejoin them at their luncheons so we New Yorkers could have a real Senator again.
Pay them no mind. They probably won't even vote when they find out they can't just go to the head of the line.

Posted by: Martha | September 21, 2008 12:25 AM

Sarah Palin is an unknowledagable, inexperienced right wing extremist. She’s also a cruel and selfish woman that cares more about oil and money than about wildlife and the environment.

The Republicans don't care whether McCain's V.P. has any experience or substance. They only care that Republicans are in the White House. If McCain had picked Paris Hilton as V.P. the Republicans would find reasons as to why she would be a good Vice President.

The Republicans are making what could be a great country into a backwards, war mongering and most hated country in the world. They need to be out of power now.

Posted by: scout_march16 | September 21, 2008 12:25 AM

erik, youre funny. I cant decide whether to detest you or like you. Say youll vote mccain and we'll call it even

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:25 AM

john5750,
The only one that wasnt born in this country is the "Patriot" ol' John McCain... He was born in Panama.. This is true and factual so go ahead and mule that one over... man the US gets dumber every year

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:24 AM

oh canada cant take a joke.... FYI I lived in your country for 4 years because you guys dont have any good designers and they pay americans to come and work for dough... I must admit its not that bad other than the winter... that last 6 months.. but yeah canada if it wasnt for your winters I like your country

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:21 AM

Yea did you catch that footage of him saying about his muslim faith...it was classic.

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:20 AM

MAYBE THE PUNK FROM CHICAGO WILL BE DISQUALIFIED AND WE CAN HAVE THE REAL WINNER OF THE PEOPLE'S VOTES.

SO, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT SOME "STAFFERS" ARE MORE CREDIBLE THAN THREE INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT FORENSIC EXPERTS?

Born in the U.S.A.?
By: KEITH PHUCAS , Times Herald Staff
PHILADELPHIA - A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama's claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot.

To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country. According to Obama's birth certificate, which his campaign posted on its Internet site in June to quell rumors that he is foreign born, the Illinois senator was born in Hawaii on Aug. 6, 1961.

On Thursday, Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa.

"We really don't believe he was born in Hawaii," Berg said. "We think he was born in Kenya."

The presidential candidate's father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, according to Obama's campaign Web site.

Berg's suit claims the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country.

Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in Kansas, and his parents met at the University of Hawaii when Dunham was a student there, according to the Obama campaign.

Eventually, Obama's father returned to Kenya, and his son grew up in Hawaii with his mother and for a few years in Indonesia after Dunham married an Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro. Also, Obama lived with his maternal grandparents in Hawaii.

"If he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, (Obama) would lose his citizenship," Berg said.

The lawsuit claims three independent document forensic experts performed extensive tests on the digitally-scanned image of Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on the campaign's site and found the document to be "a forgery."

Jerome Corsi, author of the book, "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," has also deemed the birth certificate phony, according to The Annenberg Political Fact Check, www.FactCheck.org.

Recently, FactCheck.org staffers "touched, examined and photographed" the original birth certificate kept at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and concluded the document is genuine.
"The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.," FactCheck.org staffers concluded.

Sean Smith, Obama's Pennsylvania communications director, was contacted Friday about the suit but declined comment.

The civil suit filed by Berg will be reviewed by the U.S. Federal Election Commission, according to Patty Hartman, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.


Posted by: john5750 | September 21, 2008 12:20 AM

As a God fearing individual - I am commfortable with Barack Obama being a Musli.....uh,....Christian

Posted by: Diddy Dude | September 21, 2008 12:19 AM

Roseanne Barr endorses Obama....For God's Sake DOESN'T THAT SAY IT ALL!!!!!!
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Oh my god yes it does!!! its says one person out of how many million can change your simple mind.. incredible my friend. I heard American Idol is on step away from the computer sir....

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:18 AM

erik - youre funny, but not the smart kind. did you know that Detroit is more north than parts of Canada, as is Alaska obviously. I bet I know more about your country than you do. And by the way, I hope you know that when you fil your gas tank, theres a good chance its Canadian oil, not American - which ends up in the reserves.

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:18 AM

'59' If I read correctly, you support Palin running. Isn't it sad that the biggest haters of her are well to do women in the media who are probably just jealous?

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:15 AM

Canadian,
its ok nobody pays attention to your country and on-going election.. Do you guys really ice skate to work everyday...? WOW I almost want to visit....

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:15 AM

Roseanne Barr endorses Obama....For God's Sake DOESN'T THAT SAY IT ALL!!!!!!

Posted by: MTV Generation | September 21, 2008 12:12 AM

I'm racist and I'm voting for Obama... So there, you can have your cake and eat it too in america... White Cake with vanilla frosting.... ok chocolate chips are pretty good when you mix them in the batter... oh what the hell its a party kids and everyones invited.....I'm still racist

Posted by: erik | September 21, 2008 12:11 AM

"The endorsement seems all the more puzzling given the fact that the Republican Party is running its first female candidate for Vice-President, Gov. Sarah Palin."

What is puzzling, of course, is how any woman who cherished Senator Clinton's agenda could even utter such a sentence.

Posted by: 59yearoldfeminist | September 21, 2008 12:11 AM

Indi, and really I should call you Obama-lover. You are the kind of person who simply argues for the sake of arguing and has nothing of relevance to bring to the table. Since you can't prove me wrong, you simply crop part of my comments and throw in your uncomical humor. bravo amigo!

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:10 AM

I was responding to Diego's comment. Why not read a little more, and crop less

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:08 AM

and i aint an amigo of yours

Posted by: Canadian

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And you don't know how much I am thanking God Almighty for that.

Posted by: Independent | September 21, 2008 12:07 AM

Can a woman hold a grudge or what...? I have always said to myself who evers the best no matter the forum or job... But groups of women are making fools of themselves with this cr@p... Emotional??? geee I wonder why you guys have such a problem being taken seriously. Your yelling take us seriously, and if you dont we are going to kick scream and pout... Sure support someone but dont give the stink eye when you dont get your way... make an actual case for why... that simple

Posted by: I wonder | September 21, 2008 12:07 AM

Um buddy I got news for ya, aliens aren't real...Obama will invest in Iranian oil before he would give a penny to anyone from across the border, or the universe for that matter...Better phone home

Posted by: Canadian

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Hmm...I don't know what your response has to do with a rebuttal to what I said, but I am sure it is perfectly clear in your mind.

Posted by: Independent | September 21, 2008 12:06 AM

'The California Fruit Growers for Open Borders' has JUST ENDORSED BARACK OBAMA!

Posted by: JNA | September 21, 2008 12:05 AM

Way to crop my comment indi..can't you come up with something relevant or argue a legetimate point otherwise? and i aint an amigo of yours

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:05 AM

Carol go bake some cookies

Posted by: nogo | September 21, 2008 12:04 AM

Um buddy I got news for ya, aliens aren't real...Obama will invest in Iranian oil before he would give a penny to anyone from across the border, or the universe for that matter...Better phone home

Posted by: Canadian | September 21, 2008 12:03 AM

Michelle Obama may have used the term 'Whitey' but I believe her when she says it's a 'term of endearment' to her.

Posted by: Carol Ann H. | September 21, 2008 12:02 AM

I think this is why people feel the need to support him. They are worried what others will think.."What, you're not voting for him? Why? Because he is ...? Oh you must be a racist.."

Posted by: Canadian

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Dead wrong amigo. What planet do you live on?

Posted by: Independent | September 21, 2008 12:02 AM

Our country make be broke - but Obama will find the money needed to provede free health care to every illegal alien in America! - Happy Days are Here Again!!! Obama 2008!......(gracias amigos)

Posted by: Diego Ramirez Gonzalez | September 20, 2008 11:59 PM

Sunny...that comment was borderline stereotypical...

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:58 PM

Michelle O serves one purpose, and one purpose only. Barak's mouth piece. And his personal hand gesturer...pound it..

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:55 PM

Sarah palin did cheat on 1st dude. He don't care, and it's none of our business. Bill cheated on hillary.

Posted by: nogo | September 20, 2008 11:55 PM

Hey didn't that Rothchild chick say that she was supporting Obama because of the Rednecks? this coming from someone married for a title Lady Rothchild or whoever you are or aren't - your populism reeks of hypocricy. Hell if McCain loses the election you think you can let Sarah and her kin live in one of your houses?

Posted by: Sunnyside | September 20, 2008 11:54 PM

I think the point should be made, that if you don't vote Obama, that doesn't make you a racist. I think this is why people feel the need to support him. They are worried what others will think.."What, you're not voting for him? Why? Because he is ...? Oh you must be a racist.."

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:52 PM

Sorry, Nancy Kerry, but no, I would feel she wasn't one of the best available choices either you racist hypocrite.

On the other hand, Michelle Obama is intelligent enough to know she isn't qualified for that particular position and wouldn't have accepted in the first place.

Posted by: NorthSlope | September 20, 2008 11:51 PM

To hell with women's lib. Those women do not even know what sex they are. The women I know are strong, make vital decisions every day in business and for their family, are economincally experienced and take on more responsibility in the family than men. But they do not consider themselved Libs.That word "lib" belongs in the 60's, not in the modern world. Women are taking over the leadership of many countries now: Germany, Israel and others. Some in the past have been great leaders: Thatcher, Golda M. of Israel was one of the greatest leaders of our time and by the way, she was about 80 when he became leader of Israel.

Posted by: Mary Ann Sliva | September 20, 2008 11:51 PM

You just redefined what pro-life means and put it in different terms. That changes everything, including your arguement which makes no sense. If you have a problem with the Ctholic church siding with Republicans, there's another religion waiting in the wings for your vote.

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:48 PM

"Why does the catholic church take a political stand? Separation of church and state...JFK had to prove that the Pope would not run the US, and now the church backs Republicans."

When JFK was living, Abortion was illegal, and JFK was cool with that.

Posted by: Are you Experienced? | September 20, 2008 11:47 PM

If Michelle Obama was a Governor who fought Republicans while caring for young children, and tripling the state's budget for special needs children - She would have Democrats kneeling and worshipping and caressing her big stinky feet.

Posted by: Nancy Kerry | September 20, 2008 11:45 PM

Why does the catholic church take a political stand? Separation of church and state...JFK had to prove that the Pope would not run the US, and now the church backs Republicans.
Soe of us feel that PRO-LIFE does not end at birth--PRO-LIFE means support of programs for those with disabilities and with challenges...
How can you vote against social projects and have a clean conscience?

Posted by: toni t | September 20, 2008 11:44 PM

Dont be surprised if on Voting Day, Clinton runs as an independant...she still has deep emotional wounds from Obama making her cry. If Obama were to win....he would assign Oprah the position of Secretary of the Book Club

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:42 PM

A Lesbian told me that White Men were bad.

Posted by: J SAINT | September 20, 2008 11:39 PM

gigi--right on about the bishops and republicans...hmmmmm

Posted by: toni t | September 20, 2008 11:37 PM

Rush limbaugh is a jedi playing mind tricks on you fools

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:33 PM

The Dem's will go with anyone as long as it gets them into the white house. If Obama isn't a muslim then why did he recently leave his beloved church of 20 years? coincidence? I guess the Democratic party got fed up with Bush because they couldn't find OSAMA so they found OBAMA instead...sad

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:31 PM

Circus monkey

Is your mom and dad sister, and brother. You freak of nature

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 11:29 PM

Gigi-
Larry Craig- Secretary of Airport Toilets
Mark Foley- Secretary of House Interns

Posted by: Brian | September 20, 2008 11:29 PM

Why you people don't like mccain he is a war hero and palin can shoot a gon.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:27 PM

if the media wasn't nearly all Demo-biased MCCAIN would win in a land slide. Obama has no experience, all talk no action. If you vote for him, say hello to Ahminajad for me, because Iran will be your best friend.

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:27 PM

That is corroct obama is a muslim don't you people listed to rush limbaugh. it is called diddo head mega wipe out the libs in 08 rebalicans rules.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:26 PM

This is clearly Hillary undermining Obama. Payback is a b- um... well, you know what she is.

Posted by: Matt | September 20, 2008 11:25 PM

ya dave blame bush

we have had no attacks since 9/12

Palin mccain is a ticket you can't refuse

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:23 PM

Circus monkey- We are defintely on the same intellectual level. Can we meet?

Posted by: neanderthal | September 20, 2008 11:22 PM

Newsflash, Obama is not afro-american, he could have been considered caucasian-afro american if he was actually born in America...how can someone who spent most of his childhood in asia, and went to the top US schools possibly understand the true suffering Americans are going through. He never fought for his country..oh that's right, not his country. VOTE MCCAIN!!

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:22 PM

All you libs want to do is raise my taxes. I don't be making much as it. Vote pallin mccain because rush said so.

Posted by: circus monkey

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I think GWB took care of that already with the bailouts of the past week. Do you honestly believe they are committing almost 1 trillion dollars to this and your taxes are going to go up to pay for it?

Heck, they don't even have a clear idea how much or little this toxic debt is worth. You and your children will be paying for this. Saying it isn't going to cost the tax payers because they can recover the money from the sale of assets is a hope at best not a fact.

Posted by: Dave | September 20, 2008 11:20 PM

Can anybody tell me if McSame/Palin are elected, will they have Larry Craig or Mark Foley in their administration?

Posted by: gigi | September 20, 2008 11:19 PM

hottpics in fairness the librarian wasn't really fired or at least didn't stay that way long.

"Palin Fired Librarian for Not Supporting Her, Later Rehired Her After Assurances of Support. In
1997, Palin fired the Wasilla city librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons. Palin delivered a letter to Emmons and
the police chief saying, ‘‘I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla.
Therefore I intend to terminate your employment.” Palin later said she had received assurances from
Emmons that she had her support. The Anchorage Daily News wrote, “Palin said she asked Emmons if
she would support efforts to merge the library and museum operations. Emmons said she would,
according to Palin.” Emmons had been the city’s library director for seven years. [Anchorage Daily News,
1/31/97, 2/1/97]"

"Palin Asked City Librarian About Censoring Books, Insisted It Was “Rhetorical.” In 1996,
according to the Frontiersman, Wasilla’s library director Mary Ellen “Emmons said Palin asked her
outright if she could live with censorship of library books.” Emmons said, “This is different than a normal
book-selection procedure or a book-challenge policy…She was asking me how I would deal with her
saying a book can’t be in the library.” Palin said in response, “Many issues were discussed, both
rhetorical and realistic in nature.” [Frontiersman, 12/18/96]"

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:19 PM

Brian

yous libs don't get it McCain is a POW hero. Palin shoot mooses and stuff don't hate.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:18 PM

There was material in Iraq that could have been used for WMD's. Yellow Cake in large quantity was taken out of Iraq just before the American's entered to bomb Sadam. The material was then shipped to Canada where it is being turned into energy at a local nuclear facility...It's a fact. Talk about having your cake...

Posted by: Canadian | September 20, 2008 11:15 PM

All you libs want to do is raise my taxes. I don't be making much as it. Vote pallin mccain because rush said so.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:14 PM

Circus Monkey-
You are defintely at the higher end of intelligence curve for the McSame/Palin voters. Keep on the thinking hat!

Posted by: Brian | September 20, 2008 11:14 PM

I make $7.50 an hour I don't want some muslim raising my taxes. Rush said vote for mccain, and thats good enough for me

palin mccain 2009

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 11:10 PM

Glad you like it RNC troll.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 11:08 PM

I assume you're all impressed by my moniker here. I know I'm impressed, and so is my mom.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 11:07 PM

Fear - are you kidding me - how about terrified. Supported the Bridge to no where now says she said thanks but know thanks when everyone knows that is a lie.Refuses to produce her tax returns, then there is Troopergate, she was inquiring about banning books from the library and then suddenly the librarian is fired, Does not believe global warming is manmade, although I think that opinion changed last week, does not in believe in evloution, pretty much banrupt AL as Mayor, she claims she has foreign relations experience because she can see Russia from AL, No abortion for incest or rape. Pregnant teenager, 5 children one with special needs. Encourages people to shoot bears from low flying planes and if they bring a leg back they get money. Uses YAHOO account for business.
Her Religion is questionable I am sure you have seen the you tube video. All of this and she was just introduced to us 3 weeks ago.

Yes, I do believe terrified is the appropriate word.

Posted by: hottpics | September 20, 2008 11:06 PM

Rachel love your post:
Here's a short list of catholics for Obama/Biden- Kennedy, Kerry, Heinz, Pelosi, Durbin, Leahy, Daschle, Kaine, Napolitano, Ritter, Shriver, Johnson, Richardson, Dodd, etc.
I could care less that there are some bishops who defend Pedophiles within the church and are telling me to vote republican- the party of Larry Craig and Foley- is there some sort of connection here?

Posted by: gigi | September 20, 2008 11:03 PM

Diddo heads

Remember in 2003 Rush was repeating all the war time talking points?

WMD

6 days 6 weeks I don't think 6 month rummy

The oil revenue will pay for the war

It will cost 87 billion dollars

We will be greeted as liberators

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 11:00 PM

You see, things never seem to go my way. Thank god for places like this where I can act out, be important. It's all I have.

Posted by: PalinforDikes | September 20, 2008 10:30 PM
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You're right, it is all you have and you don't even have the guts to post under anonymous. What an RNC troll.

Better go back to drooling or whatever, over your pictures of Palin in Vogue.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 10:58 PM

Catholics are disowning Biden now, most of the Catholic Bishops have come out against Biden this week.

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I guess you aren't Catholic because there has long been a disconnect between the rhetoric of the Bishops and with the lay members of the church. Just as there has been with the Pope. There are MANY Catholics who believe as Biden, we don't personally agree with abortion, but we believe it should be left between each woman and God.

Maybe YOU should do more reseach and not just from right wing web site and news channels.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:53 PM

I should be fair the GOP is ahead in one area.

Spouses of VP Candidate Subpoenaed.

GOP 1

DEM 0

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 10:52 PM

wannabe conservatives

How much money did Dick Chaney make off no bid contracts in the two war zones?

Did John Country first ever try to stop war profiteering?

NO he voted against leahy amendment 3292 to stop war profiteering, and fraud.

Did the war hero stop Dick 5 deferment chaney from installing defective showers resulting in the death of 11 soldiers?

Did the war hero vote for the Jim Webb new G.I. Bill?

The only thing the War hero can do is lick the boots of george bush, and dick I have to work on the dark side chaney.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 10:52 PM

Here's a short list of catholics for Obama/Biden- Kennedy, Kerry, Heinz, Pelosi, Durbin, Leahy, Daschle, Kaine, Napolitano, Ritter, Shriver, Johnson, Richardson, Dodd, etc.
I could care less that there are some bishops who defend Pedophiles within the church and are telling me to vote republican- the party of Larry Craig and Foley- is there some sort of connection here?

Posted by: rachel | September 20, 2008 10:52 PM

Huh?

If they have I hope they keep it up.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

"You have singlehandedly exposed your stridency, your vulgarity and your ignorance. You have made many new friends for the Republicans.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:39 PM"

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 10:46 PM

Brian,love you post.
McSame- he voted with Bush 90%, he wants to stay in Iraq 100 years, he "doesn't understand the economy", he is 72 years old, has PTSD, Metastatic Melanoma, Has a creationist as a VP choice, has Gramm- architect of the current economic downfall as his "advisor", Wow- any thinking Americans on board for this team?

Posted by: gigi | September 20, 2008 10:45 PM

A true war hero don't have to remind you that he is a war hero.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 10:44 PM

Leaving Obamia is like leaving the Mafia

These ladies need to enter a witness protection program. What is it about NOW types that makes them so full of anger, vitriol, spite, belittling sarcasm.

Do they think that nobody is allowed to think differently than themselves?

They are so intolerant they almost seem like Nazis. Frankly I don't get them.

Posted by: Joyce | September 20, 2008 10:44 PM

Leaving Obamia is like leaving the Mafia

These ladies need to enter a witness protection program. What is it about NOW types that makes them so full of anger, vitriol, spite, belittling sarcasm.

Do they think that nobody is allowed to think differently than themselves?

They are so intolerant they almost seem like Nazis. Frankly I don't get them.

Posted by: Joyce | September 20, 2008 10:44 PM

My maker will thank me that I did not vote for a Party that sent people to die so that they could make money, the party that looks down on minorities and poor people, the party of ignorance and intolerance. He would applaud my choice for Obama/ Biden.
Biden is a Catholic, I am a Catholic for Obama/ Biden.
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Again, another person who has not done their research. I can always tell an Obama voter. Catholics are disowning Biden now, most of the Catholic Bishops have come out against Biden this week.

Bush was very good to women in his administration. He gave women and children a lot of breaks with his tax cuts. Obviously, you are only repeating your parties rhetoric now and have no idea what the true facts are.

Maybe some people can not help being poor, but there is not excuse for ignorance.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:44 PM

To all the people on the holy right

You don't speak for GOD.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 10:43 PM

Poe Champ
"Also, choice means choice. It seems like the left loonies only think choice means having an abortion, women can choose life too."

I am glad you under that CHOICE means ANY CHOICE. You are on our side, thank you.

Posted by: brian | September 20, 2008 10:40 PM

With the upcoming election, many Americans who don't normally follow politics are doing so. And they are appalled at what passes for communication and discourse by the American left. Thank you Daily Kos, thank you Huffington Post, thank you leftist commentators on articles all over America. You have singlehandedly exposed your stridency, your vulgarity and your ignorance. You have made many new friends for the Republicans.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:39 PM

McCain almost broke his neck backtracking on every issue.

Privatizing social security

Tax cuts for the wealthiest americans during a time of war

McCain Kennedy immigration reform

Pro Deregulation

Wife swapping

Voted against leahy amendment 3292 war profiteering hearings

Voted against Jim Webb G.I. bill

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 10:38 PM

Sorry, folks, but I'm consumed in my own bile.

You see, things never seem to go my way. Thank god for places like this where I can act out, be important. It's all I have.

Posted by: PalinforDikes | September 20, 2008 10:30 PM

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Did you know that the majority of people do not like totalitarian attitudes? Usually those type of people have arrested developments. If I were you, I would look into it and it might help your bowel problems too.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:37 PM

AsperGirl, you certainly take up a lot of space with a lot of nonsense. "Sensual?"

I'm not even sure you're female, now, but I'm really curious how much the Repubs, or McCain, or Rove, or whoever it is is paying you.

Posted by: Helen | September 20, 2008 10:37 PM

Anonymous:
My maker will thank me that I did not vote for a Party that sent people to die so that they could make money, the party that looks down on minorities and poor people, the party of ignorance and intolerance. He would applaud my choice for Obama/ Biden.
Biden is a Catholic, I am a Catholic for Obama/ Biden.

Posted by: rachel | September 20, 2008 10:35 PM

"McCain has more women in senior, higher-paid positions"

Yes -- so it is Obama's staff that resembles an Old BOyz Network rather than McCain's. In McCain's, those positions have a majority of women. That was a clear lie by Obama, which he should retract and apologize for. Probably blaming it on his staff.

www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972
"Women occupy seven of the top 10 highest-paid positions on McCain's staff, and five of the top 10 highest-paid positions on Obama's staff."

Obama's staff: 30 women to 27 men
McCain's staff: 26 women to 16 men

Posted by: fsteele | September 20, 2008 10:34 PM

McSame- he voted with Bush 90%, he wants to stay in Iraq 100 years, he "doesn't understand the economy", he is 72 years old, like has PTSD, Metastatic Melanoma, Has a creationist as a VP choice, has Gramm- architect of the current economic downfall as his "advisor", Wow- any thinking Americans on board for this team?

Posted by: brian | September 20, 2008 9:32 PM
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Here is what I call a pat ignorant leftist loonie answer.

For one, Bush does not get a vote in Congress, he does not even know what they are going to vote on beforehand.

Two, McCain voted 90% Republican, which means he voted 10% of the time against his own party and that was only certain times. There were times that McCain voted 55 - 45 %.

Both parties are always encouragd to vote for their own parties in Congress.

The reason they call McCain a maverick, is that he was the only senator that voted against his party that many times.

Obama voted 98% Democratic.

Also, choice means choice. It seems like the left loonies only think choice means having an abortion, women can choose life too.

Then too, intelligent women are not just choosing to vote with their uteruses this time around, but with their brains too.

I already answered the health questions before and Obama is genetically deprived next to McCain.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 10:32 PM

It's ok to kill innocent iraqi babies, over fake WMD's its ok to be pro life while in the womb, and on your death bed, but not make health insurance affordable for all americans. So called christians should be outraged. If you care so much about life stop voting republican. The have a way of making evangelicals look stupid all the time.

Posted by: insane McCain | September 20, 2008 10:30 PM

Sorry, folks, but I'm consumed in my own bile.

You see, things never seem to go my way. Thank god for places like this where I can act out, be important. It's all I have.

Posted by: PalinforDikes | September 20, 2008 10:30 PM

Sorry for talking with myself. I'm ALL backed up. And just excreted a neocon bast**d! I wonder what the laws are about flushing it.

Posted by: PalinforDikes | September 20, 2008 10:26 PM

Anonymous, i don't believe you've proved anything except for an RNC/neocon lie. Maybe you need to do YOUR research like on factcheck.org, etc. This myth/lie was debunked long ago.

Posted by: usa3 | September 20, 2008 10:24 PM

Sorry for talking with myself. I'm ALL backed up.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 10:20 PM

"Sarah Palin: 40% Chance to Take Over as President // McCain Has Only 80% Odds of Living Out A Presidency

McCain, who is 72, has a statistical risk of death somewhere between these two figures, which Banzhaf estimates could be as high as a
20% chance of dying during the next 5 years.

These figures do not include his increased risk of death from his multiple bouts of deadly melanoma skin cancer, a condition which could reoccur, and which recent research shows also increases the risks of developing other types of cancer.

Naturally, the odds that he will suffer from some disabling condition while in office are much higher, with studies suggesting that the disability rate of persons 70-74 is almost 40%, and among those 75-79, the rate approaches 50%."

http://www.pr-inside.com/sarah-palin-40-chance-to-take-r781355.htm

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 10:20 PM

I am living on Social Security and Medicare, the Republicans want to take this away from me. They are elitist and are not for the working people. I need the government to help me. That's why this white Catholic granny is voting Obama/Biden.
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Is that what you going to tell your maker when you meet him? That you voted for a baby killer because you thought the other group were elitist? Obviously, you have not done your homework. Bush has been President for over 8 years now and you are surviving, aren't you? All our consumer products are going to go up even more, if Obama gets in there and institutes all the social programs he says he wants so far. You are going to be paying for it too, along with the rest of us. You think prices are high now, just wait.

Also the Pope said, no more cafteria Catholics. You can not pick and choose what you want and still call yourself a Catholic. There is no menu of choice here.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:17 PM

My constipation medicine STILL isn't working.

==========================================

Doh! Yes it is and I just excreted you RNC troll.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 10:17 PM

Talking about Metastatic Melonoma- Did you all know that it is the most deadly form of cancer and that it usually recurs in the brain. There are metastatic cells right now
swimming in McCain brain. Wow- not to worry we have VP creationist Palin- with her all her foreign policy experience seeing Russia from her house waiting and able to take over.
You got to love it.
--------------------------------
Only to be fair, you understand...

Let's compare who might die in office first McCain or Obama? Let's see, how many Presidents died in office and how many were assasinated in office?

Did you know that tall people do not live as long as short people do? Tall meaning people over 6ft? Obama sure is tall, isn't he?

Did you know that Black people do not live as long as White people do?

Did you know that Obama's father was an acoholic who died prematurely from an acoholic induced accident and that his mother died from cancer in her early 50's? Acoholism and cancer runs in families. Seems like Obama is genetically disadvantaged here. Poor Obama.

McCain's mom is 95 and her sister is 96. Both of McCain's parents lived around 20 years longer than either of Obama's parents did. His mother and his aunt have
outlived Obama's parents so far by about 55 and 45 years and still going.

Then too, McCain is shorter and white, which gives him an added genetic advantage.

Otherwise, I would not worry about Obama or McCain. McCain skin cancer, has not come back for 4 years so far. He got skin cancer because he was a POW and staked out in the sun for long periods of times.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:11 PM

More like the New Puma Agenda, but that is nothing really new.

"Many of the women who attended The New Agenda's first meeting got to know each other as a result working with pro-Hillary groups. Attendees included founding members of such groups as Together4US, Party Unity My Ass (PUMA), IOwnMyVote, Just Say No Deal and Vote Democracy '08.

"This group is comprised of women who are "gravely concerned about the mistreatment of Hillary Clinton during the primary season, and the passion and emotion that resulted from Hillary's mistreatment brought us together.," says Siskind."

http://www.hillarygreenmountain.com/2008/08/women-form-the-new-agenda.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 10:06 PM

My constipation medicine STILL isn't working.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 10:05 PM

I love Sarah Palin- she's so smort.

Posted by: bimbo | September 20, 2008 10:05 PM

I am living on Social Security and Medicare, the Republicans want to take this away from me. They are elitist and are not for the working people. I need the government to help me. That's why this white Catholic granny is voting Obama/Biden.

Posted by: rachel | September 20, 2008 9:58 PM

woman view on John McCain

Trade first wife in for beer bimbo

vote against equal pay for woman

Call his wife a cu?t in public


Posted by: Monkeyshine | September 20, 2008 9:55 PM

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Women's Group Condemns NOW Endorsement of Obama
Updated 2:37 p.m.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
A group of Hillary Clinton supporters condemned the National Organization for Women's endorsement of Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden earlier this week.

"The New Agenda is concerned that NOW's recent endorsement of Barack Obama leaves many women in this country out in the cold," the nonpartisan nonprofit group said in a release Friday. "The endorsement seems all the more puzzling given the fact that the Republican Party is running its first female candidate for Vice-President, Gov. Sarah Palin, and the Green Party is fielding its first all-woman presidential ticket with Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente."

The New Agenda points out that since its 1966 founding, NOW has previously endorsed at the presidential level only four times -- and each time there was a woman on the ticket: Shirley Chisolm in the 1972 Democratic primary; Democrats Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro for the 1984 general election; Carol Mosely Braun in the 2003 Democratic primary; and Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primary.

"We find it quite perplexing that NOW has chosen to endorse an all-male ticket after not endorsing recent candidates such as Gov. Bill Clinton, Sen. Al Gore, or Sen. John Kerry," said New Agenda co-founder Amy Siskind in the statement.

The New Agenda represents the coming together of more than 30 prominent Clinton supporters, many deeply involved in the bitter Democratic primary battle, into a new post-primary initiative to fight media sexism. The group, explained Siskind in an interview, evolved from the Together for Us group of Clinton supporters founded by, among others, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, who endorsed Obama rival Sen. John McCain this week. The group also has drawn members from some of the other pro-Clinton efforts, such as Cynthia Ruccia, who during the primaries was a leader of the Ohio-based group Clinton Supporters Count Too, and, later, Women for Fair Politics.

The New Agenda's commitment to being nonpartisan reflects the split among its Clinton loyalists over who to support in the general election. But it also allows the group to try to press its anti-sexism agenda with both parties. Siskind said New Agenda has found the McCain campaign more receptive to its overtures, holding meetings with McCain surrogate Carly Fiorina and senior campaign strategists.

"Through Carly, McCain had promised us he would have more women in his administration than any president in history," said Siskind, who added that she felt the group's pressure played some small role in McCain's choice of Palin as his vice presidential running mate.

Already, the group has come to Palin's aid, and it has promised to watchdog the press on her behalf. "We cannot and will not sit idly by while another qualified candidate goes through what Senator Hillary Clinton had to endure," said Siskind at the end of August.

On the Obama side, the group has met with adviser Mark Alexander, the campaign's one-time policy director, and is hoping for meetings with more central actors soon.

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I have not met an Obama voter yet, who knows what the "change" means. They are cult-like and that is why most of them can not tell you why they are voting for Obama. They can only tell you why they are not voting for McCain with their pat answers which all say the same thing.

Oh yeah, Obama is going to give them 1000 dollars a piece. What they do not realize is that nothing is ever free. All our consumer prices will keep going up and up, as Obama introduces more social welfare programs.

Canada is socialized. Compare what they pay for a six pack of beer in Canada, as opposed to what a six pack of beer costs here now. You notice that Canadians have to pay at least 2 dollars more for a paperback book than we do? So that 1000 dollars is not going to last them that long, when all our consumer prices go up, especially with the price of gas being so high now.

Someone has to pay for Obama's egocentric social plans.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 9:45 PM

What Kind of Plagiarist Is Joe Biden?
(THE UNUSUALLY CREEPY KIND)
Slate Article By Jack Shafer

"Joe Biden's return as a vice-presidential candidate signals forgiveness—at least from Barack Obama—for having plagiarized a leading British politician during Biden's campaign for the Democratic Party's 1988 presidential nomination.

"The Biden episode merits revisiting because as acts of plagiarism go, it was spectacular, and because it points to other dicey chapters in his life. To know Biden in full, you must appreciate his parts.

"Biden's puttering campaign for president effectively died on Sept. 13, 1987, when the New York Times' Maureen Dowd reported that he had pinched major elements of a recent and celebrated speech by Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. That speech, included in this May 1987 Labor Party broadcast, begins at the 7:23 mark.

"But Biden didn't merely borrow words and phrasings from Kinnock, which is a time-honored practice of candidates and their speechwriters and is almost never regarded as plagiarism. He became Kinnock,as David Greenberg writes today, claiming things about himself and his family that were untrue and that he knew to be untrue."

...
(more at: http://www.slate.com/id/2198597/)

Joe Biden graduated at the bottom of his class from law school because he was caught cheating in a class and received an "F" in that class. The cheating charge was over plagiarism.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

A very eloquent column about how McCain's selection of Palin is a condescending insult to American women:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/20/INAI130HCV.DTL


Posted by: Suzanne | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

I applaud that she has made it this far in her life.Any person that has done what she has from nowhere deserves credit.To me
she is just on the wrong side of the issues.Take away
gender....any man or woman with her beliefs does not
represent modern forward thinking.The kind of thought
this country and world need now.These are incredible times,
and will take incredible new ideas to bring progress.
I dont agree that because she is a woman we should forget that.
Think about what it will really take to make a difference in this world.She is not a part of the solution.

Posted by: douglas | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

It seems that "women's rights" consist primarily of one thing: the right to murder a baby in the womb. 48 million in the last few years! Shame on American women! If we do not uphold the right to life, we have undermined our entire civilization. Abortion is basically morally wrong. It has more pragmatic effects too. Look around. Who is going to contribute to social security and take care of you in your old age? Our reproductive rate is 2.1 children per woman, the replacement rate, but only because of unfettered immigration. Other countries such as Japan and Italy are not replacing themselves and must import people of other political persuasions, religions, etc., to replace workers. Be thankful that most illegal immigrants share our basic values. Abortion also undermines our respect for life and is the basis for the slide downward into euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Posted by: Minimae | September 20, 2008 9:43 PM

It seems that "women's rights" consist primarily of one thing: the right to murder a baby in the womb. 48 million in the last few years! Shame on American women! If we do not uphold the right to life, we have undermined our entire civilization. Abortion is basically morally wrong. It has more pragmatic effects too. Look around. Who is going to contribute to social security and take care of you in your old age? Our reproductive rate is 2.1 children per woman, the replacement rate, but only because of unfettered immigration. Other countries such as Japan and Italy are not replacing themselves and must import people of other political persuasions, religions, etc., to replace workers. Be thankful that most illegal immigrants share our basic values. Abortion also undermines our respect for life and is the basis for the slide downward into euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Posted by: Minimae | September 20, 2008 9:42 PM

A Google search for [ Palin "approval rating in Alaska" ] finds many recent citations of the 80% figure, and other admissions of her popularity in articles very negative to her overall.

What is the cite for your claim?


Posted by: fsteele | September 20, 2008 9:42 PM

Fedup, I agree with what you are saying about Troopergate. A governor though can't fire someone for that reason, charges weren't filed against her brother in law for that. So if she did do that, then yes, it is abuse of power. Not saying it is right, but that is the law. If a husband hits his wife and she doesn't file charges, he is innocent in the law, it's stupid and wrong, but that is how it is.

I'm not voting Palin cause I don't agree with her on any issues, simple as that.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:42 PM

My name is john5750 and I am an RNC/Palin-McCain troll who gets paid to mislead...ah, ah, no one.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:40 PM

John McCain is the man who wanted to deregulate following phil grahams lead. He lost his way. In 2000 John McCain was a man of integrity now he will do or say anything to get elected. He was a P.O.W. but I wonder how can a man remember what happened 40 years ago but can't remember what said 4 month ago?

Posted by: thinktwice | September 20, 2008 9:38 PM

PoeChamp,

Why do you perpetuate lies? Some Christian you are, or are you just one of the ungodly neocons who use Christians? Obama is not for infanticide and you know that is a lie. He voted against bills which included it because there was and is already an Illinois law which prevents it.

God IS watching you and I'd bet not very pleased.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 9:38 PM
-------------------------------------

He voted against the Born Alive Act two times that I know of. Once because he said that it would hurt Roe V Wade, so when his own staff revised it, and made it the exact wording of the federal Born Alive Act, he still voted against it in Illinois

You are mistaken, not me. Look up Jill Stanek, she was a witness for our government, a nurse in Illinois, that testified against the Born Alive Act and Obama. She was one of the nurses who had to hold these babies that were born alive, until they died in Illinois, Obama's home state.

Do your own research, I have now pointed you in the right direction. Don't just listen to your own party. You can not plead ignorance either under our laws, or under God's laws. I would never vote for a man like Obama, who supports infanticide.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:55 PM

"Palin's Favorability Ratings Begin to Falter

ut then a funny thing happened: Palin seems to have lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12)** of any of the Final Four. [UPDATE: The Sept. 17 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll shows Palin at 47 percent favorable and 37 percent unfavorable--an even narrower +10 split.] Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least."
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx


Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 9:52 PM

Why does Joe Biden have more hair growing on the top of his head now than he had 20 years ago?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 9:50 PM

PoeChamp -

"I have not met an Obama voter yet, who knows what the "change" means."


Let me spell it out for you then: No more Republicans in the White House! No more of the same twisted policies and subjugation of our constitutional rights! Get it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:48 PM

What does Sarah Palin and little dick chaney have in common?
Besides gender everything.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 9:48 PM

Talking about Metastatic Melonoma- Did you all know that it is the most deadly form of cancer and that it usually recurs in the brain. There are metastatic cells right now
swimming in McCain brain. Wow- not to worry we have VP creationist Palin- with her all her foreign policy experience seeing Russia from her house waiting and able to take over.
You got to love it.

Posted by: ricardo | September 20, 2008 9:48 PM

Geez Mini, back off of the preaching. I don't agree with abortion either, but I also don't agree with the government telling a woman what she can and can't do with her body. I hate abortion, but a woman has the right to make decisions with her body just as any legal adult male or female has that right.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:48 PM

I have not met an Obama voter yet, who knows what the "change" means. They are cult-like and that is why most of them can not tell you why they are voting for Obama. They can only tell you why they are not voting for McCain with their pat answers which all say the same thing.

Oh yeah, Obama is going to give them 1000 dollars a piece. What they do not realize is that nothing is ever free. All our consumer prices will keep going up and up, as Obama introduces more social welfare programs.

Canada is socialized. Compare what they pay for a six pack of beer in Canada, as opposed to what a six pack of beer costs here now. You notice that Canadians have to pay at least 2 dollars more for a paperback book than we do? So that 1000 dollars is not going to last them that long, when all our consumer prices go up, especially with the price of gas being so high now.

Someone has to pay for Obama's egocentric social plans.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 9:45 PM

What Kind of Plagiarist Is Joe Biden?
(THE UNUSUALLY CREEPY KIND)
Slate Article By Jack Shafer

"Joe Biden's return as a vice-presidential candidate signals forgiveness—at least from Barack Obama—for having plagiarized a leading British politician during Biden's campaign for the Democratic Party's 1988 presidential nomination.

"The Biden episode merits revisiting because as acts of plagiarism go, it was spectacular, and because it points to other dicey chapters in his life. To know Biden in full, you must appreciate his parts.

"Biden's puttering campaign for president effectively died on Sept. 13, 1987, when the New York Times' Maureen Dowd reported that he had pinched major elements of a recent and celebrated speech by Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. That speech, included in this May 1987 Labor Party broadcast, begins at the 7:23 mark.

"But Biden didn't merely borrow words and phrasings from Kinnock, which is a time-honored practice of candidates and their speechwriters and is almost never regarded as plagiarism. He became Kinnock,as David Greenberg writes today, claiming things about himself and his family that were untrue and that he knew to be untrue."

...
(more at: http://www.slate.com/id/2198597/)

Joe Biden graduated at the bottom of his class from law school because he was caught cheating in a class and received an "F" in that class. The cheating charge was over plagiarism.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

A very eloquent column about how McCain's selection of Palin is a condescending insult to American women:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/20/INAI130HCV.DTL

Posted by: Suzanne | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

I applaud that she has made it this far in her life.Any person that has done what she has from nowhere deserves credit.To me
she is just on the wrong side of the issues.Take away
gender....any man or woman with her beliefs does not
represent modern forward thinking.The kind of thought
this country and world need now.These are incredible times,
and will take incredible new ideas to bring progress.
I dont agree that because she is a woman we should forget that.
Think about what it will really take to make a difference in this world.She is not a part of the solution.

Posted by: douglas | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

It seems that "women's rights" consist primarily of one thing: the right to murder a baby in the womb. 48 million in the last few years! Shame on American women! If we do not uphold the right to life, we have undermined our entire civilization. Abortion is basically morally wrong. It has more pragmatic effects too. Look around. Who is going to contribute to social security and take care of you in your old age? Our reproductive rate is 2.1 children per woman, the replacement rate, but only because of unfettered immigration. Other countries such as Japan and Italy are not replacing themselves and must import people of other political persuasions, religions, etc., to replace workers. Be thankful that most illegal immigrants share our basic values. Abortion also undermines our respect for life and is the basis for the slide downward into euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Posted by: Minimae | September 20, 2008 9:43 PM

A Google search for [ Palin "approval rating in Alaska" ] finds many recent citations of the 80% figure, and other admissions of her popularity in articles very negative to her overall.

What is the cite for your claim?

Posted by: fsteele | September 20, 2008 9:42 PM

It seems that "women's rights" consist primarily of one thing: the right to murder a baby in the womb. 48 million in the last few years! Shame on American women! If we do not uphold the right to life, we have undermined our entire civilization. Abortion is basically morally wrong. It has more pragmatic effects too. Look around. Who is going to contribute to social security and take care of you in your old age? Our reproductive rate is 2.1 children per woman, the replacement rate, but only because of unfettered immigration. Other countries such as Japan and Italy are not replacing themselves and must import people of other political persuasions, religions, etc., to replace workers. Be thankful that most illegal immigrants share our basic values. Abortion also undermines our respect for life and is the basis for the slide downward into euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Posted by: Minimae | September 20, 2008 9:42 PM

Fedup, I agree with what you are saying about Troopergate. A governor though can't fire someone for that reason, charges weren't filed against her brother in law for that. So if she did do that, then yes, it is abuse of power. Not saying it is right, but that is the law. If a husband hits his wife and she doesn't file charges, he is innocent in the law, it's stupid and wrong, but that is how it is.

I'm not voting Palin cause I don't agree with her on any issues, simple as that.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:42 PM

My name is john5750 and I am an RNC/Palin-McCain troll who gets paid to mislead...ah, ah, no one.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:40 PM

John McCain is the man who wanted to deregulate following phil grahams lead. He lost his way. In 2000 John McCain was a man of integrity now he will do or say anything to get elected. He was a P.O.W. but I wonder how can a man remember what happened 40 years ago but can't remember what said 4 month ago?

Posted by: thinktwice | September 20, 2008 9:38 PM

PoeChamp,

Why do you perpetuate lies? Some Christian you are, or are you just one of the ungodly neocons who use Christians? Obama is not for infanticide and you know that is a lie. He voted against bills which included it because there was and is already an Illinois law which prevents it.

God IS watching you and I'd bet not very pleased.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 9:38 PM

I think the women on this site that are foaming at the mouth in visceral hatred of Palin really need to step back, take a deep breath, and look at the issue in a RESONABLE MANNER!

She had an 80% approval rating in Alaska when all this began. Since then, the slavering masses have descended upon her state, hoping and praying and digging and prying and bullying just to get dirt on her, and all for the sake of Obamessiah.

Each little factoid they found, even if it was totally irrelevant, they still published it, but in such a way as to subtly undermine her credibility.

Point- so called 'Troopergate', the brother-in-law that she allegedly fired the commissioner over, TASERED a 10 year old CHILD! Now, I don't know about anyone else, but if one of the troopers in MY state had done that, I wouldn't want him anywhere near a gun much less a taser!

Also, the commissioner is part of her cabinet, she appointed him to that position. She SHOULD have the ability to fire him at the drop of a hat! Instead, she works with him until she catches him trying to appropriate money behind her back! (read the e-mails)

To me, 'Troopergate' is a non-issue. The bridge-to-nowhere is a non-issue, she DID stop the bridge, sure she took the money, so what? She still cut earmarks for her state more than any gov. before her!

The fact that she stood up to big oil, was able to give back to the people, means a lot to me. It should to others to! People need to stop taking the MSM at face value. After this election cycle, I certainly won't!

God Bless America!
McCain/Palin 08!!!!!

Posted by: Fedupw/slurs | September 20, 2008 9:38 PM

WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED

As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. WE THE PEOPLE expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected.

However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this was not the case. The DNC made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee.

That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners, I-pods",etc.

There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.

It is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.

This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America.

We believe Obama's Chicago Machine of dirty politics encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED.

See a preview here:

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

...

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:38 PM

As a 70 year old woman- I can tell you that things don't work like they used to when I was younger. Seeing my male friends of my age, I know that even driving on the highway is scary. I can't imagine voting for somebody 72 years old to make clear decision, especially if he has metastatic melanoma

Posted by: rachel | September 20, 2008 9:37 PM

Here you go John:

Some of John McCain's and Barack Obama's biggest fundraisers are executives from the stricken financial services industry, which will need all the help it can get from whoever wins the White House.

Merrill Lynch & Co.'s chief executive, for example, has raised more than $500,000 for McCain's campaign. Obama has received at least $1.5 million collected by three senior executives at Lehman Brothers.
Three executives from Goldman Sachs Group Inc. have raised at least half a million dollars for Obama. That firm is Obama's top source of campaign money overall; its employees have contributed more than $690,000 to his campaign, according to the center.

Merrill Lynch's chief executive, John Thain, has raised more than $500,000 for McCain. Merrill's workforce likewise is McCain's top donor, giving nearly $300,000.

Separately, employees from the commercial bank and insurance sectors gave McCain's campaign $3.6 million and Obama's campaign $3.4 million.

As I said too you earlier, they are both taking money from wall street. Not saying it is right, but that is what candidates do.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:36 PM

Joe vitter
larry craig
rush limbaugh
Sean hannity
Michael savage
People john5750 would like to sleep with

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:33 PM

Barack Obama - Fannie Mae Lobbyists’ second favorite senator.

Obama is Fannie and Freddie’s second favorite United State’s senator. Despite this, he has recently started trying to blame McCain and the Republicans for the current problems in the economy and the failings of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. He has also started saying that John McCain is too close with lobbyists. With more facts about Obama’s acceptance of lobbyist money coming out each day, this line of attack seems more and more ridiculous.

Former CEO’s Franklin Raines (ousted due to 6.3 billion dollar accounting scandal in 2004) is a former CEO of Fannie Mae and current economic advisor for Senator Obama. Raines was there when all of these sub prime rate loans were being handed out. The very root of the company’s collapse.

Fannie Mae lobbyists have given Barack Obama $123,000 since 2004 - only 4 years. In Contrast John McCain has received only $19,000 in the past 20 years. Furthermore, The Lehmann Brother’s Global Investment Bank (recently went under) lobbyists gave Obama $365,922 since 1989 and gave McCain $115,800 in the same time period.

It is amazing that Obama can blame McCain for the Fannie and Freddie crisis and then simultaneously take over $100,000 more money in 1/5 the time from those very same lobbyists. If Obama and McCain started in the senate at the same time this would equate to Barack Obama taking 32 times more lobbyist money than McCain. If anyone should be criticized on lobbyist ties, it is Obama himself.

What has John McCain said about Freddie and Fannie dating all the way back from 2005?

Quoted from the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act - “I Join as a co-sponsor of this reform act of 2005 to underscore my support for a quick passage of regulatory reform legislation. If congress doesn’t act, American tax payers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and what they pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole.”

Not only did McCain recognize a problem with Freddie and Fannie 3 years ago, he put his name on the line and Co-Sponsored a bill attempting to reform regulation of these two companies.

Who blocked the passage of the bill?

Obama and the Democrats in The Senate.

The reason that Freddie and Fannie and many other companies have now fallen so far so fast is that there has been almost zero governmental oversight or conversation with the American people about these company’s poor business practices.

Why is that? It is likely that these company’s strong lobbyists and their ties to certain politicians, like Obama, caused certain people to look the other way or block reform.

Judging by the money Obama has accepted from these lobbyists and his close ties with their former CEO’s it looks this is one of the few places that the senator has shown leadership.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:32 PM

McSame- he voted with Bush 90%, he wants to stay in Iraq 100 years, he "doesn't understand the economy", he is 72 years old, like has PTSD, Metastatic Melanoma, Has a creationist as a VP choice, has Gramm- architect of the current economic downfall as his "advisor", Wow- any thinking Americans on board for this team?

Posted by: brian | September 20, 2008 9:32 PM

""Barack Obama says he's for equal pay for women, but women working in his Senate office earn an average of $9,000 less than men. By contrast, women in John McCain's Senate office actually earn an average of nearly $2,000 more than men. The American people understand that real leadership for the change we need is all about what you do, not just empty words," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a statement.

The study that McCain's campaign cites, however, notes that a major reason for the disparity is that McCain has more women in senior, higher-paid positions -- not that women are being paid less than men for the same job."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/mccain_rebuts_o.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 9:31 PM

John5750

Stop mbating at the rush limbaugh poster in your bathroom

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 9:31 PM

Poe Champ-
I am not sure why I have to have supporting documents to claim what I am on this Blog- Are you the Blog police or a Republican troll- trying to say intelligent people should vote for the party of Idiots, Creationist,and Rascist.

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 9:26 PM
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Mimi your ignorant rhetoric and pat answers do not work well on intelligent people. I think this board is a little out of your leaque.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:30 PM

Well John now we know why you are not voting Barack, pretty hateful and racist comments don't you think. BTW, I'm white, female and worked during the primaries, and I didn't threaten or use force on anyone and I didn't see any other staff/volunteers do it either.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:28 PM

Obama pays his women less than men. McCain pays the women who work for him the same or more.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 9:27 PM

John 5750 You are a fat lying sack

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 9:26 PM

Poe Champ-
I am not sure why I have to have supporting documents to claim what I am on this Blog- Are you the Blog police or a Republican troll- trying to say intelligent people should vote for the party of Idiots, Creationist,and Rascist.

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 9:26 PM

N.O.W women are feminazi's.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 9:25 PM

john 5750

Thats why he voted nineteen times for deregulation.

Thats why he voted against leahy amendment 3292 war profiteer hearings.

McCain is a selfish old fool that lost his way in 2004

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 9:24 PM

I am a life-long diehard Democrat who was ready, willing, and able to vote for the best candidate this country has seen since President Bill Clinton. I loved that 8 years of Peace and Prosperity and was looking forward to another 8 years. I loved the GREATEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN HISTORY, and was hoping for a redo.

Unfortunately, a corrupt and inexperienced little punk from Chicago came along with his Chicago Machine, his thugs, and his busloads of black teens to go into the caucuses and steal delegates using theft, threats, force, and every kind of fraud there is.

Sure, we had seen Bush steal the election twice, but with some cunning and legalities. Who would have ever thought that a bunch of thugs and black kids would literally steal the delegates from another Democrat.

Surely, no one could be that undemocratic and un-American.

Well, we found out that a common thief from Chicago could be such a low-life.

I decided then that I would never vote for such a disgusting crook. I would likely sit it out.

Then, I started reading about McCain. I realized he was no Bush. He really is a maverick who fought his own party time after time. I really liked the fact that he is an honest and honorable man. And, I actually agreed with him on many issues.

I was torn. How could I ever vote for a Republican. All my friends knew I hated Republicans, I hate Bush, I hate Cheney.

I finally decided I had to vote for McCain. I couldn't allow this corrupt little Chicago punk to steal the presidency.

He knows nothing, except how to steal elections. He's arrogant and hard-headed. He could never work with others. He has no record of accomplishments.

He lies and says foolish things way too much. He's a real flip-flopper. He has no values, no principles, just an overblown ego.

His judgement is atrocious. His friends are all crooks, criminals, terrorists, murderers, anti-American, thieves, money-launderers, frauds, and other assorted low-lifes.

Then Gov. Palin came along and I thought this is great. McCain didn't have the option of choosing Hillary like Obama did, but McCain did the next best thing.

McCain found a governor with more experience than the punk running for president. She has a record of accomplishments that the punk running for president doesn't have. She is honest and has the highest rating of any governor in the country.

I thought this McCain guy really is shrewd. He chose a VP who makes the presidential candidate look like a dork who shouldn't even be running for VP.

Palin is no Hillary, but she comes closer to Hillary than Obama does.

Then I noticed every time Obama brought up a slogan McCain and Palin actually fit it better than Obama did.

Like CHANGE. McCain and Palin have proven that they are agents of change. Obama just talks the talk. They walk the walk.

Like EXPERIENCE. Gov. Palin leaves Obama in the dust on all counts. There's no question McCain has the experience, maturity, military background, good judgement, and so much more than Obama can only wish for.

So, I am totally confident in my choice of McCain-Palin and will vote Republican for the first time in my life. My friends agree.

But, I'm voting for Democrats on the rest of the ticket.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:24 PM

John McCain has a 0 rating on women's issues while Barack Obama has a 100% rating on women's issues -- THAT's why NOW is endorsing this year, and why the bitter poor sports running this "show" are being used as pawns by the Karl Rove acolytes running the McCain campaign. Of course, Sarah Palin is already moving herself up on the ticket ... check this out if you want a laugh in the face of this group's irrational self-hating statements:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMqGPochWA

Posted by: Did I mention I'm a LIAR??? | September 20, 2008 9:23 PM

Anonymous-
Where are we- at the medical boards? How about you name the six layers of brain? TIck Tock

Posted by: Ricardo | September 20, 2008 9:08 PM
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I asked first.. tic toc

Besides a person who had two doctorates, one in medicine, would defintely not be voting for Obama. Those people are in the group, that Obama wants to tax the heck out of. It might be ok to be a Democrat if you make below 50k, or ok to be a Democrat if you make millions, because you can just do what the rest of the rich Democrats are doing, and that is to stick your money in offshore banks, like they do in Delaware, where it is legal. Oh Biden comes from Delaware, doesn't he? But if you are a doctor, especially one in private practice you are going to get screwed over with Obama's tax plans and health reforms. Duh!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:23 PM

john5750, try taking even a peek without those moose colored glasses.

"So when there was a vacancy at the state Agriculture Department, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.

Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five high school classmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages."

"An examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics – she sometimes calls local opponents "haters" – often contrasts with her public image.

Throughout her career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.

Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records."
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-palin_14pol.ART.State.Edition1.26e9372.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 9:23 PM

N.O.W. is not representing me or many of the other women I know. They are a left wing group representing men hating B.....ches. The so called "ladies" of idiotic shows like the View and Oprah are the type of females to belong to N.O.W.

Posted by: angrynana | September 20, 2008 9:23 PM

Hey John, go check out opensecrets.com and see how much money John McCain took from Wall Street. He is as guilty of it as Barack

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:22 PM

OBAMA'S GREED AND CORRUPTION IS A CAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL CRISIS WE ARE IN. HE ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF, NOT YOU.


McCAIN REPEATEDLY WARNED OF THIS CRISIS AND TRIED TO PASS LEGISLATION TO PREVENT IT.


"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole." -Sen. John McCain


OBAMA TOOK MORE LOBBYI$T MONEY THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR. INCLUDED IN THOSE MILLION$ WAS MONEY FROM HIS FRIEND AND ADVISOR FRANKLIN RAINES AT FANNIE MAE WHO MADE $90 MILLION HIMSELF. OBAMA WAS PAID TO STOP McCAIN'S LEGISLATION SO THE CORRUPTION COULD CONTINUE. HE DID.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:20 PM

Well said Maria. I too am a woman, former Hillary Supporter and I will not vote for a woman simply because she is a woman. It is pathetic to me that McCain is pandering to the women, "I put a woman on the ticket, vote for me", absolutely pathetic. I think I and most women out there have more intelligence than that.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:19 PM

The New Agenda?? Since when do they represent women? Never heard of 'em. Why don't you report that my Book Club (which is all women) just endorsed Obama/Biden?? Is that newsworthy??

Posted by: libro | September 20, 2008 9:18 PM

To Anonymous-
I don't have to prove anything to you. But it is obvious that you Corpus Collosum does not communicate between your hemispheres- if you know what I mean-

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 9:00 PM
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You can not back up your doctorate is more likely. I think it would be more accurate to say that your synapsis are short circuting.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 9:17 PM

McCain the Boozzler
McCain the druggy
McCain the adulterist
McCain the wife beater
McCain the abuser, hypocrite, liar, and political opportunist!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:15 PM

The New Agenda has its own "agenda." I will not vote for a ticket just because it has a woman candidate in it, if that woman is not qualified to run the country. The country is in turmoil now, and I don't want a robotic puppet running it during this difficult time. Alaska does not represent the microcosm of the country. I am an ordinary citizen, but I can come up with a better answer than "You can see Russia from land here in Alaska."
What a joke! I am a woman and she DOES NOT represent me.

Posted by: maria | September 20, 2008 9:13 PM

Anonymous or puma in disguise, cool it with the equal pay figures. The figures from McCain's camp are women who are higher up in his campaign then the women in Obama's campaign. That is why it appears he pays more. Geez, learn more will ya, you and your puma's take partial information and spread it around like it is fact. Yeah, I've seen the puma flyer on that, and when you do the research, you find out that the puma's aren't being totally correct in that.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:13 PM

Anonymous "You have no credibility"
Is that like the pot calling the kettle black. All you are is a Republican Troll. Save the anatomy lessons for the USMLE. By the way do you know anything about EGFR inhibitors?

Posted by: Brian | September 20, 2008 9:13 PM

When Sarah Palin ran for governor as a Republican outsider in 2006, she took on not only a sitting governor from her own party but also Alaska's Republican establishment -- vowing to clean up a political system that had been rocked by an Federal Bureau of Investigation corruption probe.

After handily winning, her popularity in Alaska soared as she went on to sack political appointees with close ties to industry lobbyists and shelved pork projects.

Gov. Palin has shown similar fearlessness in going after Big Oil, whose money has long dominated the state. She appears, for example, to have forced Alaska's dominant oil producers, ConocoPhillips and BP PLC, to finally get serious about a natural-gas pipeline -- without making any tax or royalty concessions.

"People see her as the symbol of purity in an atmosphere of corruption," says Anchorage pollster Marc Hellenthal. "She's more like Saint Sarah."


Palin sought more taxes and more development from oil companies.

In her first speech as Sen. John McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin claimed a credential that might resonate with a nation blanching at the cost of gasoline — a record of taking on Big Oil.

"Along with fellow reformers in the great state of Alaska, as governor, I've stood up to the old politics as usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies, and the good-old-boy network," Palin said after McCain introduced her to the nation on Aug. 29, 2008.

"When oil and gas prices went up so dramatically and the state revenues followed with that increase, I sent a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska. And we are now — we're now embarking on a $40-billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence."

We've already checked her claim that she sent "a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska." We ruled it True.

So here we'll examine whether she really stood up to the big oil companies, some of the most influential players in Alaska's political scene.

Palin fought to raise taxes on oil companies. Alaska gets about 85 percent of its state revenue from oil taxes, and as fuel prices skyrocketed, Palin complained the state wasn't getting its share of the windfall. She successfully pushed for a law that raised taxes on oil profits to 25 percent from 22.5, winning passage in the State Legislature in November 2007. The increase amounted to an estimated $1.6-billion annually more for the state.
Oil companies had opposed the increase, with executives saying it would discourage them from investing in the state. BP Alaska president Doug Suttles said after the Legislature passed the increase: "I can only hope that once the impact of this legislation is clear, the administration and the Legislature will revisit the issue."

So yes, with respect to taxes, Palin stood up to big oil companies.

Palin has also sparred with big oil companies over who gets to build a pipeline to carry natural gas to market from Alaska's North Slope. The fields there have enormous gas reserves, but so far they have remained largely untapped due to the lack of a pipeline. Palin's predecessor, Frank Murkowski, supported a contract between the state and BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil to develop the pipeline. Palin opposed that, promising to consider other companies.
Indeed, after she was elected she solicited other bids, and ended up supporting a proposal by TransCanada Corp. to build a 1,715-mile pipeline down the Alaska Highway and through Canada. Exxon, ConocoPhillips and BP all criticized Palin's move to give the job to the Calgary-based company.

"She has taken an independent position and she has been protective of state sovereignty," said Gerald McBeath, political science professor at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.

So in the pipeline battle as well, Palin took on big oil.

Palin also continued efforts Murkowski had launched to take back leases the state had awarded to Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and ConocoPhillips in the giant Point Thomson oil and gas field. Alaska officials were annoyed that the companies had not developed the field, which would boost state revenue. The companies said the fields posed technical challenges.

In that respect as well, Palin stood up to big oil.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 9:08 PM

Anonymous-
Where are we- at the medical boards? How about you name the six layers of brain? TIck Tock

Posted by: Ricardo | September 20, 2008 9:08 PM

I find it better to be Pro life, than Pro-murder, or Pro-Death. Roe V Wade, is no excuse for fear mongering on this board either. That is only for the ignorant who have not done their own research and are content to choose the pat answer time and time again.

Yes Sarah Palin is pro-life, so was Bush and Roe V Wade has not been overturned in 8 years.

If Roe V Wade gets overturned, than it will just revert back to a state by state issue, which it should have been to begin with.

Also, we do need more regulations on abortions, because this is not the 1970's anymore and we do know a lot more about the fetus than we used to. How would you like to be treated with medical knowledge from the 1970's? That is barbaric medicine, from what we know today.

Obama is for infanticide and that is murder, which has nothing to do with Roe V. Wade. Roe V. Wade is for fetuses that are inside the womb, not outside of the womb.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 9:06 PM

Hmmm...lets do some math and then remember we are in America..

* NOW (National Organization of Women) represents 500,000 women who are members.

* The "New Agenda" represents 30 women who are aparrently anti-Obama and pro-McCain.

Why does a small group of Republican-leading women think they can push around the largest organization for women American has ever known?

Are the 30 "New Agenda" women rich, politically-connected, racist...or all three? WTF?

The 30 "New Agenda" women should just vote for their GOP candidates and let the 500,000 NOW women vote for their Democratic candidate.

The 30 are just silly and bitter.

Posted by: Donny | September 20, 2008 9:06 PM

REGULATE WOMEN

DE-REGULATE CORPORATIONS

WHO ARE HOLY AND BLESSED

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:05 PM

DISPATCHES FROM THE GROUND WAR ...

McCain: "I'm Not For Privatization Of
Social Security" ...

McCain 2004: "Without Privatization, I Don't See How You Can Possibly Over Time Make Sure Young Americans Are Able To Receive Social Security Benefits"...

Watch The Video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 20, 2008 9:05 PM

How can these women possibly compare Hillary to Palin. Hillary is a mental giant compared to Palin. What do they want???

Posted by: Renate P | September 20, 2008 8:59 PM

Leadership. Clinton's own party shafted her, despite her gifts.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 9:05 PM

"Hillary Clinton doesn't stand for any of the positions John McCain stands for so.......... "

both CLinton and McCain are for equal pay.. something Obama does believe in

obama pays women 83 cents on the dollar ..
McCain pays women 102 cents on the dollar..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:04 PM

I thought the Hippies where stomped to death during disco fever?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:03 PM

This women's group is not only nonpartisan and nonprofit, but also nonsensical. It seems to be basing its political choices entirely on the presence or absence of vaginas. rather than on the presence or absence of solid commitments to women's rights, in candidates. Shame!

Posted by: neandertal | September 20, 2008 9:03 PM

This women's group is not only nonpartisan and nonprofit, but also nonsensical. It seems to be basing its political choices entirely on the presence or absence of vaginas. rather than on the presence or absence of solid commitments to women's rights, in candidates. Shame!

Posted by: angry moderate | September 20, 2008 9:01 PM

PoeChamp, Obama won the TX Caucas cause Hill supporters didn't show up in very good numbers. SHe knew that before hand, she even said she was concerned her supporters would vote in the primary then not go back at night to the caucus. As to Obama's birth certificate and all his other personal info, you people need to stop the lies. Do you honestly think that moveon and all these other organizations have more info on Barack then the USA or the FBI? The FBI knows more about Barack then these internet bloggers do. You sound like those puma's and that attorney who think they have some inside info on Barack's citizenship, lol. Yeah, puma's and Philip Berg know more then the FBI, haha.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 9:01 PM

To Anonymous-
I don't have to prove anything to you. But it is obvious that you Corpus Collosum does not communicate between your hemispheres- if you know what I mean-

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 9:00 PM

How can these women possibly compare Hillary to Palin. Hillary is a mental giant compared to Palin. What do they want???
Any woman to be elected no matter how void intellectually??

Posted by: Renate P | September 20, 2008 8:59 PM

Did anyone see how the

Rothchilds

manipulated the LONDON STOCK MARKET AND TOOK OVER THE BANKS

by Sending a Spy to Waterloo?

INTERESTING THAT A ROTHCHILD POPS UP THIS WEEK AYE

Posted by: robberbaron | September 20, 2008 8:58 PM

"The New Agenda." What a joke. Better to name themselves, "The Rich Ruling Class Snob Elitists Who Hate the Dirty Stinking Lower Class Hippies Who Support Obama Agenda."

Hillary Clinton doesn't stand for any of the positions John McCain stands for so.......... either her rich elite supporters are only supporting her because she is a woman and don't care about her policy positions or they are simply republicans in disguise.

Posted by: C. Feher | September 20, 2008 8:58 PM

Not one word about character. Governor Palin respects the beliefs of others and would never force her beliefs on others. You can hardly say that about the disgraceful display by American leftists over the last several weeks.

Posted by: joInAmerica | September 20, 2008 8:58 PM

To JAB-
Please take your medication- you are posting retarded messages. Is this what we can expect from a Republican troll?

Posted by: brian | September 20, 2008 8:57 PM

As a woman with two doctorates, there is no question who the best intelligent candidates can be OBAMA/ BIDEN- they will continue defending women's right.
If you are a self hating woman, who depends on hubbie to take care of you, can't think independently, or are racsist- it is obvious you don't have the brain to make intelligent decisions.
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You have no credibility Mimi and I think even you realize that yourself, or you would not have felt the need to post your credentials. If you have a doctorate in medicine, than tell me how many coats are on the esophagus and what their primary functions are? You have 5 minutes to answer, which is more than enough time if you already know the answer. Tic toc....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:57 PM

JAB, you said it all by comparing Palin to the "women on the left." What doesn't the New Agenda see? Palin is pro-life, pro-gun, pro-fossil fuels, anti-gay, and anti-equal pay for equal work, i.e., anti-left, as you are. These are just a few of the position on issues that define Palin, and on these issues she is in disagreement with NOW. In fact, if the New Agenda bothered to check they would discover that on most issues NOW is 180 degrees out from that of Palin and the Republican Party, i.e., NOW is more left than right. BTW, it is refreshing to note that NOW is not a one-issue organization. Why would they endorse the Republican ticket when McCain's choice of Palin was a partisan, political decision, not a move to further feminism; Palin is a token, cynically chosen solely to garner support from women, i.e., the female equivalent of Uncle Tom. Palin is not of the left and not a feminist. Would the NAACP not endorse the Democratic ticket if McCain had chosen Clarence Thomas or Alan Keyes as his running mate? Of course not; neither Thomas or Keyes is in agreement with the vast majority of blacks on the issues; most blacks support the left, unlike Thomas and Keyes. Their blackness is not enough of a reason for blacks to vote for or support the Republican ticket; to suggest otherwise is racist. There would have to be more reasons than that. Palin is almost in total disagreement with NOW on the issues. It is sexist to suggest liberal women should not vote Democratic or support the Democratic ticket just because Palin is a woman; there would have to be more reasons than that. For liberal women to not support Obama-Biden would be cutting one's nose off to spite one's face.

Posted by: ChuckB | September 20, 2008 8:52 PM

I would have never known that Alaska has been proclaimed holy safe ground while the lower 48 will burn in hell when the end comes. Without Sarah's nomination.

It almost makes sence since its cold up there...

NATIONALIZE - BORROW MORE MONEY - THE END IS NEAR

Posted by: GOP-CHILLED-ABSOLUTE- COOL-AIDE | September 20, 2008 8:50 PM

1.Obama committed fraud in the Texas Democratic caucuses. How did Obama end up with the majority of delegate votes in Texas, when Hillary won the majority of the popular vote in Texas?

2. Where are all Obama's papers? His birth certificate for instance? His record of live birth? The one on MoveOn.org, has now been determined to be a fraud. Where are his registration papers for the military when he turned 18? He said he registered in 1979, but there was no registration required until Carter reinstated it again in 1980.

3. How come Obama has all those scary friends? His mentors, father figures like Frank Davis, spiritual advisors like Reverend Wright, business partners like Rezko, and closest friends like Ayers and Dohrn are either Communist, Marxist, Racist, Criminals, or American subversives.

You do know that water meets its' own level?.

How come Obama had no real answers for our economic crisis this past week?

We do not have the luxury of voting for a President, that does not know how to lead in times of crisis. It took Obama 3 days to come up with the right answer to the Russian/Georgia conflict and we have yet to hear his plans on the economic crisis of this last week

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 8:49 PM

Why don't you just work on correcting all the sexual deviates in your own party like Rudy Red Dress, Mark (I will guard the pages)Foley, Larry(keep the queers from marrying) Craig, and David (ban the prostiutes)Vitter. Do you just get a thrill out of pretending to be a spy. You Republicans DO get a thrill out of pretending to be something you are not, don't you?

Posted by: majorteddy | September 20, 2008 7:44 PM

I think that the democratic Men Who Can't Get Laid are a lot more funny than the republican men who have sexual deviations. I mean, the republican men have issues when they have deviations, and getting sex is complicated and problematic. But the democrats have issues just getting regular straight sex. That's a level of incompetence that is kind of hard to vote for.

LIke Elliot (gotta pay out the nose for every kiss) Spitzer, John (shacking up with a WeirdHo on the trail) Edwards, and Bill ("genetic material on my dress") Clinton. I mean Elliot Spitzer's call girls were badmouthing him behind his back & charging him extra, John Edwards' WeirdHo is a New Age witch who thinks he's supposed to lead the world into better energy, and Bill Clinton ten years after that emission still has most of his own party mocking him and jeering at him over it.

The Republicans who have sexual deviancies have about as much trouble managing aberrant sex as democrats have with regular, straight sex. Perhaps it's because you have to stare across the dinner table at one of these sexually impotent, sterile, NOW crones every night?

Maybe that's why the "happiness" factor for conservatives is higher than liberals.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 8:49 PM

JAB- No acually, I have MD/PhD from Princeton.
You obviously went to Pentecostal U- what do you have a Phd it must be Ignorance?

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 8:49 PM

It seems obvious the Republican party went on a scavenger hunt to fill the position of Vice President. Find a candidate who appeals to the greatest voter base. Not a candidate who is the most qualified to fill the potential successor to most powerful political position in the free world. Republican strategists - "let's go find someone is who is ultra-conservative, a member of the moral majority, a political outsider who will appeal to the independent voters. Oh, yeah it would be great if they were a women so we could tap the Hillary crowd." This isn't about affirmative action - this is strictly about playing politics. This is an affront to women.

Posted by: Carlyle | September 20, 2008 8:47 PM

joInAmerica,

The more you find out about Palin, the less you find to like.

Nothing intolerant or sexist about that.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 8:42 PM

To: Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM

I guess you were just kidding about the two doctorates. I was talking about recorded civilization and not creationism. I guess your doctorates must be honorary. You know, just because you can print something off from your computer doesn't make it legitimate. Or are your doctorates in WOMEN'S STUDIES and MULTICULTURALISM. ha ha ha ha

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:41 PM

Way to go, AsperGirl! Lefties just have to go after you with what little ammo they have whenever you present intelligent and compelling arguments.

Posted by: Joanne600 | September 20, 2008 8:40 PM

PALIN HAS ASK FOR GOD'S HELP IN THE WAR ON WALL STREET

AND THE ALASKAN NATIONAL GUARD has surrounded all Alaskan Bank of America Buildings

Posted by: godsafeus | September 20, 2008 8:39 PM

To: Posted by: Sims | September 20, 2008 8:37 PM

OK that was just gross.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM

JAB- "5000 years of civilization" even the pope doesn't believe in creationism. You are truly loser- what university did you go to Robertson U, Pentecostal U or Rascist U?

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM

To: Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:32 PM

I appreciate you saying you will pray for me but I'm taken.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:37 PM

Maybe this group should wake up and smell the stupidity of their stance! Yes, lets all vote for a woman VP that is AGAINST any type of action that would ACTUALLY HELP WOMEN.

I am ashamed to be a Hillary supporter with these women. The candidate you should support isn't the one that wears their own vagina, it's the candidate that represents the interests of yours!

Posted by: Sims | September 20, 2008 8:37 PM

I have been stunned by all of the women, from NOW and elsewhere, who without knowing anything about Governor Palin except that she is pro-life, a Christian and the most popular governor in America, immediately and in one voice, savaged her. One can only wonder at their ignorance and intolerance.

Posted by: joInAmerica | September 20, 2008 8:36 PM

To: Posted by: Chuckamok | September 20, 2008 8:33 PM

She was critical to the Irish Peace Process. She was an usher.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:36 PM

To: Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 8:29 PM

Having two doctorates doesn't seem to have helped you any. I have two myself and a lifetime of experience behind me and more than 5000 years of historical civilization that says....YOU'RE WRONG. Embracing death and socialism ALWAYS leads to ruin.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:35 PM

Obama will not succeed by playing racism card !!!

Posted by: David | September 20, 2008 8:35 PM

"Sure Hillary earned her way. After Bill got nailed by the DNA in the blue dress, Hillary had Bill's balls in a vise until he came up with a way to pay her back for her loyalty."

Hillary played the victimhood card and carpetbagged her way into that Senate seat because Giuliani had to drop out and the Pubs scrambled to run that ultra-lightweight against her.

Her pseudo-experience (central to the Irish peace process, ey?) was debunked during the spring. And her pseudo-courage (even Sinbad laughed at the sniper fire whopper)came a-cropper, too.

No more Clinton slime in the White House.

Never again.

Posted by: Chuckamok | September 20, 2008 8:33 PM

To: Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:27 PM

Too bad you assume we only have one income. I work two jobs so my wife doesn't have to work. Conservative women are worth that kind of treatment. I would work three jobs before I would force her to work. Of course I wouldn't expect her to murder an innocent child either but hey...that's just me.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:33 PM

JAB -

I can assure you NO MAN tells me what to do.

But I'll tell you what, I will pray for you.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:32 PM

REGULATE WOMEN'S BODIES

DE-REGUALTE WALL STREET AND BANKERS

BAIL THEM OUT UNLESS USED TO BE RUN BY WOMEN LIKE LEHMAN

YOU GO MCSAME
DIPSTICK/LIPSTICK 08

Posted by: dickcheneyisacorruptliar | September 20, 2008 8:32 PM

To: Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:24 PM

Seriously. That's the whole thing? Equivocate all you want but at the end of the day you all do what the liberal men tell you to do. You risk your lives and you commit murder and for what? So that you can feel like you are powerful by supporting infanticide. No woman is more powerful than the one who is willing to help shape the future by raising its leaders.

Please seek a way out of the terrible existence that the left condemns its women to. The seething hate, the acrimony, the celebration of death and the collaboration with enemies of freedom. You women deserve better - I only wish you believed you deserved better.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:30 PM

When is a fetus recognized as human life?

When it votes Republican!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 8:02 PM

Joanne600 sounds alot (alright, exactly) like Aspergirl, dontcha think?
Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:58 PM

To all right wing born again idiots:

Vote Palin/McCain to stop killing poor innocent fetuses

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 7:58 PM

The Obama supporters, particularly the ones who post things using my handle, are a compelling argument (1) against wasting money on race-based affirmative action in college admissions and (2) for abortion.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 8:29 PM

Liberal women hate Palin so because they are so jealous of her. She is so attractive and the majority of liberal women should wear a sack over their heads.

RL

Posted by: Colorado | September 20, 2008 8:29 PM

As a woman with two doctorates, there is no question who the best intelligent candidates can be OBAMA/ BIDEN- they will continue defending women's right.
If you are a self hating woman, who depends on hubbie to take care of you, can't think independently, or are racsist- it is obvious you don't have the brain to make intelligent decisions.

Posted by: mimi | September 20, 2008 8:29 PM

My wife doesn't work outside the home. She decides each day what she wants to do. She kept each child she wanted to have and requires that I provide for the family. Compare that with a liberal woman who works to support her boyfriend and is expected to kill the babies he helps make. Liberal ladies, you deserve better!

Posted by: JAB

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It must be real nice to be able to survive on one income. Most of us don't have that choice. And that's what it is about a matter of personal choice.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:27 PM

"As governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has championed aerial gunning of wolves and bears. Using powerful images of this needless and brutal practice -- and the indisputable facts about Palin's promotion of it -- we've created a hard-hitting new television ad to educate voters about what Governor Sarah Palin really stands for.

As governor, Sarah Palin...

Proposed paying a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf.

Approved a $400,000 state-funded propaganda campaign to promote aerial hunting.

Introduced legislation to make it even easier to use aircraft to hunt wolves and bears."

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Donation2?idb=0&df_id=1547&1547.donation=form1&s_src=6JY08WDC4F&s_subsrc=6JY08WDC4F_EJI08D1web&JServSessionIdr001=pem1mn8vs1.app26a

Posted by: nowanna1
_________________________________

SARAH PALIN IS WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY SHE TALKS ABOUT WAR WITH RUSSIA WITH A SMIRK. SHE'S ABSOLUTELY SICK.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:27 PM

No wonder she is "popular" in Alaska. This $741-$781 million could have been spent on something like alternative energy that would have benefited Alaska for years, but instead it was just a payoff.


"Palin's $781 million plan would distribute some of the state's oil-wealth surplus.

Highlights:

Pay $1,200 to all PFD recipients or those who can prove 6-month residency.

Suspend the 8-cent-a-gallon gas tax for a year.

Palin is considering giving an additional $475 million to electric utilities to reduce rates."

http://www.adn.com/legislature/story/442702.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 8:27 PM

You said do research but you didn't refute a single thing I said. Just look at her without trying to spin it. Consider Sarah Palin and her accomplishments as compared to cokehead Barry. Do you really think there is a comparison or do you like being led around by a cokehead?

Posted by: JAB

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I've got news for you, but Todd and Sarah admitted to token a few themselves. Again, you had better check your facts. She made this admission years ago.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:24 PM

Sure Hillary earned her way. After Bill got nailed by the DNA in the blue dress, Hillary had Bill's balls in a vise until he came up with a way to pay her back for her loyalty. I'll never truly understand how they got Moynihan to pimp for her. I always thought he was an honorable guy. That said, she still was the better of the two Democratic candidates - more qualified and certainly less likely to damage America.

Posted by: Joanne600 | September 20, 2008 8:22 PM

Just because Sarah Palin has a vagina doesn't make her qualified to hold any office. She will also let government tell her what she can or cannot do with it. Do these man-haters support Palin over the democrats ?

Carol Mosely Braun in 2003 ? Yeah, right. When asked what her major was in college she couldn't remember. Very dim bulb there. She only got in office because she is from Chicago and the 2 men she was running against were viciously negatively campaigning against each other.

Posted by: ohhhhpleeeease | September 20, 2008 8:22 PM

To: Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 8:14 PM

If she earned her way then why isn't she on the ticket? The reason she is not on the ticket is because the MAN in your party said NO. The men on the left ALWAYS dictate the behavior of the liberal women and what's sad is that the women don't even realize it is happening.

Women on the left have been duped into believing that they SHOULD have abortions. Despite the fact that each abortion increases the chance that the woman has of having cancer. That's just one physical drawback associated with abortion. Each abortion carries with it untold emotional damage and a hurt that never goes away.

Men are calling the shots for liberal women and they are so blind they go along with it. Men say they don't have to marry the liberal women and that the woman that gets pregnant has to kill the baby. Women say it liberates them. I say it is a prison.

My wife doesn't work outside the home. She decides each day what she wants to do. She kept each child she wanted to have and requires that I provide for the family. Compare that with a liberal woman who works to support her boyfriend and is expected to kill the babies he helps make. Liberal ladies, you deserve better!

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:21 PM

fsteele - You are quoting lies; Palin's approval rating is at 64% on the last poll, and most Alaskans think it will be lower because of the stalling of the abuse of power investigation that she promised to comply with, before she refused to show up. Check out some Alaskan websites - Akaskans are angry about it. And, just so you understand, it was a bipartisan committee that started the investigation.

Posted by: Angela | September 20, 2008 8:20 PM

Memo to New Agenda: feminism is not about voting for someone just because they are a woman.

NOW announced support for Obama when Palin, who is virulently anti-choice and terrible on women's issues, joined McCain's ticket.

"Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild" needs to get over her sour grapes. I find it hilarious that she has a title like that and yet calls Obama elitist.

People who were with Hilary for the right reasons (i.e., supported her policy positions rather than voting for her simply because they couldn't stomach a black candidate) are now support Obama. The others are migrating to the Republican Party, where their racism is better appreciated.

Posted by: Hampton Roads gal | September 20, 2008 8:18 PM

fsteele -

Oh, are you from Alaska? Do you actually know why she is popular? Because Murkowski, the former Republican governor, was so despised you could have put a republican polar bear in office and they would have a high approval rating. She's only been in office 20 months and only now are Alaskans beginning to realize what an opportunist hack she really is.

Keep in mind too, Alaska has no income tax, Alaska gets more from the federal government than it contributes, Alaska has cashed in BIG TIME on the skyrocketing price of oil and has a 5 billion dollar surplus at the expense of the other 49 states and every man, woman and child in Alaska gets a rebate check from the state from the oil profits.

The real question is how could you not be popular in Alaska. Murkowski had to really work at it.

Posted by: NorthSlope | September 20, 2008 8:18 PM

IMPEACH PALIN NOW
There are advantages to being an “underdog”, albeit an aggressive lipstick wearing breed. Ms Palin's credentials to be Vice President appear off limits because of her gender affiliation. Ironic the “good ol' boy” culture embedded in the Republican party should use this ploy. With a “get off free ticket” we are required to accept all Ms Palin's frailties carte blanche. Dismiss the obvious (personality disorder(s). An apparent obsessive/compulsive demeanor paired with a vengeful nature (Trooper Gate and vindictive firings). Paranoid tendencies that isolate and insulate her from reality. Will her White House staff also be under an “administrative gag order” ? Cronyism - Will she pick her unqualified friends for plum jobs as she has done during her political tenure in Alaska? Delusional behavior, she uses her earthly powers to carry out God's will. Religious extremism - exactly why our constitution separates spiritual and secular powers. The Vice President's Blackberry should not used for text messaging God.
Sensitive social issues may infer we hold off evaluating Ms Palin's qualifications and ignore the possibility she might inherit the Presidency from an aging statesman.
The term “politically correct” takes on new meaning when we are forced to examine what is “offensive” versus what is rational behavior. Maybe it is time for some good old “cognitive dissonance “ in this critical election ... and if that does not work then I suggest that we safeguard the future of this great nation by stocking up on Impeach Palin buttons now.

Posted by: dripdrop | September 20, 2008 8:17 PM

"Hilary earned her way"

Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | September 20, 2008 8:16 PM

A true maverick feels Republicans are full of crap.

Posted by: McCain_08 | September 20, 2008 8:15 PM

NOW is the National Organization of Ugly Women,,,, no, I meant to say, National Organization of Really Really Ugly Women!!!

That's Correct

Osama, Hussein, Omama

Posted by: Bob Barker | September 20, 2008 8:14 PM

Hilary earned her way, Palin just got picked, and for the worst reasons at that.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 8:14 PM

To: Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:08 PM

You said do research but you didn't refute a single thing I said. Just look at her without trying to spin it. Consider Sarah Palin and her accomplishments as compared to cokehead Barry. Do you really think there is a comparison or do you like being led around by a cokehead?

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:11 PM

Yes, I've done MY research.

At crackpot websites.

You can find anything you want there.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:11 PM

The only thing we have to fear is McCain himself

Posted by: FDR | September 20, 2008 8:10 PM

To: Posted by: ndl | September 20, 2008 8:03 PM

Palin gave women the greatest gift of all - a powerful role model. She shows all women what they can do if they simply stop buying into the lies from the left. Women have the great gift and responsibility of motherhood and yet so often the women on the left demean themselves by associating with the likes of cokehead Barry and slick Willy.

Don't you realize that more men are pro-abortion than women. Why do you think that is ladies? Why are you blindly obeying men when you deserve more? MCCAIN PALIN 08

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:09 PM

She is feminine, motherly, powerful and intelligent. Best of all, she EARNED her way unlike women on the left who constantly cry for affirmative action to get jobs they don't deserve.

Posted by: JAB

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Whoa! You have some serious research to do! Whether she is female or male, this person is not a role model I would want my daughters to emulate.

"feminine, motherly, powerful and intelligent"? Well for lack of proof we'll give her the first one. Motherly? Yeah throw your pregnant teenage daughter under the bus for ambition. Powerful? Deceitful is more like it. Intelligent? You REALLY need to do some research. I can SEE Russia from Alaska...

She is an embarrassment to all rational women.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 8:08 PM

Using McLame, McSame, McBush, etc., does so much to further your intelligent argument as does referring to those with whom you disagree as delusional or idiotic. But I digress. I don't think he will advance a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade. However at some point the makeup of the Supreme Court could certainly be such that they could overturn it and return the decision to the states where it belongs.

Posted by: Joanne600 | September 20, 2008 8:07 PM

Palin is intelligent? Now there's an oxymoron.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:05 PM

It will be nice to finally have at least one more SCALIA OR THOMAS on the SCOTUS and get rid of that ridiculous Roe v Wade decision that is an embarassment to juris prudence. Can't you libs see the writing on the wall? Can you say CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS! I find it interesting that those who support infanticide don't take their ideas to the ballot box and see if people will vote along with them. Oh I know why. Because the American people would reject their insane bloodlust and hang the libs up by their birkenstocks.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:05 PM

"Best of all, she EARNED her way unlike women on the left who constantly cry for affirmative action to get jobs they don't deserve."

Then there's Hillary. She road the coattails of her hubby, a sexual predator.

Hillary led the assassination squad tasked with sliming the character of ANY woman who dared to expose BubbaZipper's attacks.

Yet the feminists adore her. Go figger.

;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | September 20, 2008 8:04 PM

" '"The New Agenda is concerned that NOW's recent endorsement of Barack Obama leaves many women in this country out in the cold," the nonpartisan nonprofit group said in a release Friday."

The most important thing is NOT to have a woman elected JUST to have a woman. Do these women in this group slaughter wildlife, want to do away with abortion, have their husbands make their decisions for them, keep a list of "enemies," dismiss the experienced for personal friends in jobs, all subscribe to radical Pentecostalism, know nothing about foreign affairs, know nothing about the economy, give the same speech 14 times without a word changed, and LIE, LIE, LIE????

I'm a hardcore feminist voting for Obama and Biden because they're for everybody. McCain and Palin are only for the rich and the very narrow-minded.

How can intelligent women vote for a dumbass like Palin? Why not Phyllis Schlafly, if she's still among the living, or Marabel Morgan, if you remember her?

Well, maybe these women aren't so intelligent after all. Hillary didn't win, but she has time to run again. THEY MUST GET OVER HER LOSS. She's Obama/Biden. SO WHY AREN'T THEY IF THEY ARE SO HILLARY-MAD?

Posted by: bryony | September 20, 2008 8:04 PM

What had Palin done for women? Didn't Biden get some law pass to protect women?

What's that pet-name that McCain has for his wife? Bunt?

Posted by: ndl | September 20, 2008 8:03 PM

Palin has done an excellent job in Alaska in a very short time -- and with 80-90% approval. She has done it by herself, fighting her party instead of climbing their ladder (like the GOP women, and most other older women in politics). She is already better qualified to be President than Obama -- and she is only running for VP!

Posted by: fsteele | September 20, 2008 8:03 PM

Ladies, ladies, ladies, if you are a true Hillary supporter, please do as she has asked us to do one more time, and help elect a Democrat to the White House while there is still a country to lead. I truly admire John McCain as a war hero. I watched him kiss the ground when he got off the plane from Viet Nam with tears in my eyes. But that does not mean I owe him my vote for the presidency. Hillary Clinton is a born leader who happens to be a woman. She also happens to be a staunch believer in the Democratic party, and has proven to have extraordinary grace in this tough loss. Why can't her supporters who are still bitter see they are now hurting the woman they professed to admire so much by turning against her request to help elect Obama to the White House? I'm sorry, but I agree with a previous poster. If the New Agenda were really Hillary supporters, they would accept her wishes and help remove "W", his party, and everything he stands for the ranches of Texas, Arizona and Alaska!!!

Posted by: demsmustwin | September 20, 2008 8:03 PM

When is a fetus recognized as human life?

When it votes Republican!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 8:02 PM

Palin was the best choice because she embodies everything good that a conservative woman can be. She is feminine, motherly, powerful and intelligent. Best of all, she EARNED her way unlike women on the left who constantly cry for affirmative action to get jobs they don't deserve.

When I first saw a picture of Governor Palin I knew the claws were going to come out from the uggos on the left. She is more qualified to be president than cokehead Barry any day of the week. She has ACTUAL EXPERIENCE and not just scams like cokehead Barry. The worst part for the liberal women that threw their support behind cokehead Barry is that they sold out the liberal sisterhood and turned their back on Hillary. The self loathing they feel is so profound that they are screeching against Palin when what they really want to do is scream how much they hate themselves. This election is going to be a walk. It is awesome! MCCAIN PALIN 08

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 8:00 PM

Joanne600 sounds alot (alright, exactly) like Aspergirl, dontcha think?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:58 PM

To all right wing born again idiots:

Vote Palin/McCain to stop killing poor innocent fetuses

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 7:58 PM

Who is "New Agenda"? I never heard of them. Why is it important that we care what they think?

Posted by: Ryan | September 20, 2008 7:56 PM

"No one will be touching Roe v. Wade, at least not in a McCain/Palin administration"

Yeah right... They're "compassionate conservatives" huh? They why does McLame want to appoint judges modeled after Scalia, Alito, and Roberts?

You're either delusional or an idiot. Or both.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:55 PM

here is another fact:

Mayor Palin insisted on charging women who had been raped for the rape kits that were used to collect forensic evidence. She was against placing the after morning pill in the kits. The Alaska legislature passed a bill, specifically for mayor Palin's town, Wasilla, that stated no town could force a rape victim to pay for her or his own rape kit.

How could NOW endorse a woman who had stood for that? How could any compassionate human being concerned about justice vote for her?

Posted by: Angela | September 20, 2008 7:54 PM

I apologize for that last screed.

My constipation medicine isn't working.

Posted by: majorteddy | September 20, 2008 7:53 PM

No one will be touching Roe v. Wade, at least not in a McCain/Palin administration. While unfortunate that abortion ever became a constitutional right, it is not likely to revert to a state right any time soon. Abortion just isn't a driving issue for more that a small percentage of the population as much as the left would like us to believe that it is. As a conservative I would not vote for or against a candidate soley on the basis of abortion stance. What the left hasn't figured out, but many of Hillary's supporters have is that feminism is better illustrated by Sarah Palin than by the bastardized, politicized, hijacked version that has been sold to us for the last 40 years by radicals. Feminism is just a convenience to the radical left - it's a way to suck in women to a political theory that has always been and always will be male centric. This is why the left is apoplectic over Governor Palin. She is an accomplished woman with an executive job who also has a supportive husband and a less than perfect family. Oh and she's attractive, as if that's a crime. Women like Lynn Forester de Rothschild may differ in many of their political views from Governor Palin, but perhaps on closer examination they realize they aren't so far apart. They got mugged by the biased media and far left of the Democratic party who decided that they were going to elect the first Black president rather than the first woman president even though she was infinitely more qualified than he. They got mugged.

Posted by: Joanne600 | September 20, 2008 7:52 PM

LKM is not just a woman...she is also a small town given the fact that she can not only be raped but she can be pillaged simultaneously and repeatedly for eight years.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 7:51 PM

"Palin is Clarence Thomas in drag."

Another "wit" heard from.

;)

Posted by: Chuckamok | September 20, 2008 7:50 PM

JakeD-Palin isn't qualified to be dogcatcher in Wasilla, leave alone governor of Alaska or vice president. Why didn't the Republicans nominate a respected woman of experience, like Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, or Kay Bailey Hutchinson? This is a gimmick.

Posted by: Nome Gnome | September 20, 2008 7:49 PM

Here's a campaign slogan.

"McCain/Palin - Let Freedumb Ring."

Posted by: Mmhmm | September 20, 2008 7:49 PM

"You said you are "so tired of being raped and pileged for the past 8-yrs"."

This kind pf hyperbole would never get past an editor or an eight-grade English teacher.

Like the Nazi crappola thrown around these boards, a disservice is done to the REAL victims of rape, as opposed to these pseudo-victims in cyberspace.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:49 PM


Palin is Clarence Thomas in drag.

Posted by: Togeika | September 20, 2008 7:45 PM

Hi, Aspergirl , you Republican liar.All winter and fall you pretended like you were a Hillary supporter and a loyal Democrat who just could not vote for Obama . You said if the Democratic Party nominated Obama you would go to the Republican Party. I knew what you were back then, a Republican troll trying to divide the Democratic Party. Now you are trying to divide the women in the women's movement. Why don't you just work on correcting all the sexual deviates in your own party like Rudy Red Dress, Mark (I will guard the pages)Foley, Larry(keep the queers from marrying) Craig, and David (ban the prostiutes)Vitter. Do you just get a thrill out of pretending to be a spy. You Republicans DO get a thrill out of pretending to be something you are not, don't you?

Posted by: majorteddy | September 20, 2008 7:44 PM

john5750 is an RNC/Palin-McCain troll who's only recourse is to post slander and lies.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 7:42 PM

It's painfully obvious and not at all puzzling that NOW is endorsing a man now when they didn't in the past. They were lying to women about their aims and goals before. They were never for women. They were for their own private personal gain. They promote the gay lifestyle and rights. They don't like "straight" women. That's what I see at any rate. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

Posted by: jfhdsiu | September 20, 2008 7:42 PM

That reminds me of today and NOW. Women need to support women lik Sarah Palin, and stop trying to deny other women from getting ahead, because it is politically expedient for NOW to do so once again.

PoeChamp

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What a crock! Women need to support women who are qualified. Palin is by no stretch of the rational mind qualified. She will only serve to set women back 50 years. That is if we would actually survive a Palin-McCain administration.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 7:40 PM

John 5750:

Dude, it's time for your medication.

Way past time.

Posted by: My Head Hurts | September 20, 2008 7:40 PM

majorteddy:

Gov. Palin is more qualified to be President than Sen. Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 7:39 PM

To: Posted by: LKM | September 20, 2008 1:07 PM

You said you are "so tired of being raped and pileged for the past 8-yrs". Are you in prison? Also, did you begin being raped exactly eight years ago. I mean, did men show up at your door with the electoral win of GWB or did they wait until W was inaugurated.

I think you represent an important group that needs a voice. The 50+ year old women who have been raped and pillaged for eight straight years. By the way, how do you pillage a woman? I understand how the rape process works but how do you pillage a person. I look forward to your reply.

Posted by: JAB | September 20, 2008 7:39 PM

IN CASE YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OBAMA'S VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF THE LAST 20 YEARS...

William Ayers is a former member of the Weather Underground Movement, previously known as the Weathermen, a radical 1960’s Maoist movement dedicated to sparking a revolutionary overthrow of the United States government. The group carried out jailbreaks of members, bombings, and incited riots during their run in the 1960’s and 70’s.

Ayers has admitted to being involved in bombings carried out by the group, and is quoted as saying “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

He went into hiding underground after one bomb went off accidentally, destroying a Greenwich Village apartment and killing three other members of the organization, one who was Ayers girlfriend.

Ayers is linked to bombings of the United States Capital, the Pentagon, and the Harry S. Truman Building, home of the United States Department of State, along with a series of courthouses, jails, banks, and prison administrative offices.

He, along with other members of the Weather Underground, turned themselves in to police in 1981, after a series of official acts of misconduct on behalf of law enforcement officials ensured that they would never be brought to trial for their activities.

And this self-confessed domestic terrorist has current ties to Presidential hopeful Barack Hussein Obama.

This is not the only connection that Obama has with known terrorist organizations. In 2001, while serving in a paid position as director for the Woods Fund, the organization issued a grant to the Arab American Action Network, a group that has ties to the PLO. His church published a very pro-Hamas newsletter, and the churches ties with the Nation of Islam, and Jeremiah Wright’s award to Louis Farrakhan, as well as his visit to Libya to meet Muammer Kaddafi.

Do we really need a President, indeed a Senator or any other elected official, who seems to be on such friendly terms with terrorists and their sympathizers?

The Weather Underground Communist terrorists have long peddled the line that their bombings didn't kill anybody, except themselves. The book flap for Ayers book, Fugitive Days, insists that the organization carried out "strategic, bloodless bombings, including one inside the Pentagon."

Bloodless? Tell that to the family of the San Francisco policeman and those who were injured. Newspaper accounts at the time put the number of people wounded at nine.

Riddled with shrapnel, Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell died two days later at San Francisco General Hospital. A memorial was held for him in February 2007. He was a young man with his whole life ahead of him. But to Ayers and Dohrn, he was a "pig."

"Sergeant McDonnell caught the full force of the flying shrapnel, which consisted of heavy metal staples and lead bullets. As other officers tried rendering aid to the fallen sergeant, they could see that he sustained a severed neck artery wound and severe wounds to his eyes and neck," the San Francisco Police Officers Association Journal reports.

"Officers [Ron] Martin and [Al] Arnaud, who were standing several feet from the window ledge, were knocked to the ground and sustained injuries from the flying glass," it says. The blast caused them hearing impairment and shock. One officer was knocked to the floor unconscious, while another "suffered multiple severe wounds on his face, cheek and legs from the flying fragments of the glass."

I obtained Grathwohl's actual congressional testimony.
The testimony was given by Grathwohl to the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee on October 18, 1974. He testified:
"When he [Bill Ayers] returned, we had another meeting at which time―and this is the only time that any Weathermen told me about something that someone else had done―and Bill started off telling us about the need to raise the level of the struggle and for stronger leadership inside the Weathermen 'focals' [i.e., cells] and inside the Weatherman organization as a whole. And he cited as one of the real problems was that someone like Bernardine Dohrn had to plan, develop and carry out the bombing of the police station in San Francisco, and he specifically named her as the person that committed that act."

Grathwohl added that Ayers "said that the bomb was placed on the window ledge and he described the kind of bomb that was used to the extent of saying what kind of shrapnel was used in it."

This testimony completely obliterates the notion that the Weather Underground communist terrorist bombings only killed the bombers themselves. Such propaganda is designed to play down the serious nature of the terrorist crimes. It is also designed to make Obama's relationship with Ayers and Dohrn more palatable.

Grathwohl includes this conversation with Ayers in his 1976 book, Bringing Down America: An FBI Informer with the Weathermen. The park police station bombing in San Francisco was "a success," Ayers is quoted as saying,
Grathwohl reveals that Ayers himself knew how to make bombs and didn't care about people being killed.

At one point, he says, Ayers displayed a diagram of a bomb, with dynamite and a fuse. The plan was to bomb a police station but an objection was raised that it would also destroy a nearby restaurant. "We'll blow out the Red Barn restaurant," Grathwohl said. "Maybe even kill a few innocent customers". "We can't protect all the innocent people in the world," Ayers replied. "Some will get killed. Some of us will get killed. We have to accept that fact."

Grathwohl says the Weather Underground also considered using kidnappings and assassinations in order to bring about their communist revolution in the U.S.


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OBAMA LOVES ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS

William Ayers is a former member of the Weather Underground Movement, previously known as the Weathermen, a radical 1960’s Maoist movement dedicated to sparking a revolutionary overthrow of the United States government. The group carried out jailbreaks of members, bombings, and incited riots during their run in the 1960’s and 70’s.

Ayers has admitted to being involved in bombings carried out by the group, and is quoted as saying “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

He went into hiding underground after one bomb went off accidentally, destroying a Greenwich Village apartment and killing three other members of the organization, one who was Ayers girlfriend.

Ayers is linked to bombings of the United States Capital, the Pentagon, and the Harry S. Truman Building, home of the United States Department of State, along with a series of courthouses, jails, banks, and prison administrative offices.

He, along with other members of the Weather Underground, turned themselves in to police in 1981, after a series of official acts of misconduct on behalf of law enforcement officials ensured that they would never be brought to trial for their activities.

And this self-confessed domestic terrorist has current ties to Presidential hopeful Barack Hussein Obama.

This is not the only connection that Obama has with known terrorist organizations. In 2001, while serving in a paid position as director for the Woods Fund, the organization issued a grant to the Arab American Action Network, a group that has ties to the PLO. His church published a very pro-Hamas newsletter, and the churches ties with the Nation of Islam, and Jeremiah Wright’s award to Louis Farrakhan, as well as his visit to Libya to meet Muammer Kaddafi.

The Weather Underground Communist terrorists have long peddled the line that their bombings didn't kill anybody, except themselves. The book flap for Ayers book, Fugitive Days, insists that the organization carried out "strategic, bloodless bombings, including one inside the Pentagon."

Bloodless? Tell that to the family of the San Francisco policeman and those who were injured. Newspaper accounts at the time put the number of people wounded at nine.

Riddled with shrapnel, Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell died two days later at San Francisco General Hospital. He was a young man with his whole life ahead of him. But to Ayers and Dohrn, he was a "pig."

"Sergeant McDonnell caught the full force of the flying shrapnel, which consisted of heavy metal staples and lead bullets. As other officers tried rendering aid to the fallen sergeant, they could see that he sustained a severed neck artery wound and severe wounds to his eyes and neck," the San Francisco Police Officers Association Journal reports.

"Officers [Ron] Martin and [Al] Arnaud, who were standing several feet from the window ledge, were knocked to the ground and sustained injuries from the flying glass," it says. The blast caused them hearing impairment and shock. One officer was knocked to the floor unconscious, while another "suffered multiple severe wounds on his face, cheek and legs from the flying fragments of the glass."

This testimony completely obliterates the notion that the Weather Underground communist terrorist bombings only killed the bombers themselves. Such propaganda is designed to play down the serious nature of the terrorist crimes. It is also designed to make Obama's relationship with Ayers and Dohrn more palatable.

An FBI Informer with the Weathermen. The park police station bombing in San Francisco was "a success," Ayers is quoted as saying,
Grathwohl reveals that Ayers himself knew how to make bombs and didn't care about people being killed. At one point, he says, Ayers displayed a diagram of a bomb, with dynamite and a fuse. The plan was to bomb a police station but an objection was raised that it would also destroy a nearby restaurant. "We'll blow out the Red Barn restaurant," Grathwohl said. "Maybe even kill a few innocent customers". "We can't protect all the innocent people in the world," Ayers replied. "Some will get killed. Some of us will get killed. We have to accept that fact."

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 7:36 PM

Republicans freed the slaves,under Lincoln.
Lincoln was Republican.

Martin Luther King was Republican.

What stopped the women from getting the right to vote at first, was their failure to include all women, because it was politicially expedient for them at the time.

That reminds me of today and NOW. Women need to support women lik Sarah Palin, and stop trying to deny other women from getting ahead, because it is politically expedient for NOW to do so once again.

As a woman, I also oppose NOW for holding all women back today, in their denouncement of Sarah Palin.

The Susan B. Anthony Amendment was dropped precisely because women did not include all women, or women would have had the right to vote before 1900.

Although the feminist movement started the movement, it was not the feminist that got women the right to vote, but western states such as Wyoming who applied for statehood in 1889, that had already given all women the right to vote in their state. Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona, and Kansas followed suit.

Leading the pack of politicians, it was a former Republican President Theodore Roosevelt, who pushed for the women's right to vote under a new Progressive political party, along with Socialist Eugene Debs.

Along came the Quaker Paul who brought back the Susan B. Anthony Amendment, and who also opposed Democratic President Woodrow Wilson who once again shot down the suffrage movement.

When President Wilsom saw that the women's suffrage was causing a division during war, he finally allowed the Anthony Amendment.

Women voted for the 1st time in 1920.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 7:34 PM

So, where is there a qualified candidate to back? McKinney is lucky she ever got elected and then she was defeated after slapping a D.c> policeman, for which she ended up apologizing after weeks of claiming to be a victim. She has staked claim to many of the most ridiculous positions when she was in Congress. She was frequently very boisterous about radical positions on subjects she obviously knew nothing about. In short, she is a hack. We all know the story on Palin. I hope they are not referring to her as a qualified woman. If they help her , she would bite them in the back.Rotsa Ruck Bozos!

Posted by: majorteddy | September 20, 2008 7:34 PM

Manolete -

Democrats for Palin-McCain my foot. RNC/Palin-McCain troll is more like it.

Posted by: Dave | September 20, 2008 7:30 PM

"Now why would John McCain not release his medical records? Why might that be? Please, would some brainwashed, fear-driven, uneducated, patriotic dupe please give me an answer?"

McCain released his records and anything else asked for long ago. I see you have a computer ... use it, dupe.

Posted by: darwin | September 20, 2008 7:28 PM

Don't lose sight here either people, it isn't only about Roe v. Wade, it is about individual liberties as well. For a party who claims to be the party of Lincoln, they sure do flagrantly try to tear apart the constitutional rights of the citizens. Sure, they are all for individual rights when it lines their pockets, but otherwise...

Ok, so it isn't all republicans who feel this way. In Fact there are many who are horrified by this treason.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 20, 2008 7:28 PM

NOW is not a woman's organization any more. They long ago became merely an abortion rights group.

Posted by: JinAZ | September 20, 2008 7:27 PM

"I wish I could vote for Hillary, but Obama sent his thugs into the caucuses to steal her delegates."

Geez, will you people EVER stop whining?

Obama beat the Billary Machine at its own game. And Billary threw up a brick, because of disgusting hubris, the tiresome "You OWE me, America" crappola, and lie after lie after lie.

Posted by: Chuckamok | September 20, 2008 7:26 PM

ALASKA LOVES SARAH for the great work she has done reforming government to work for the citizens, and AMERICA IS FALLING IN LOVE WITH SARAH for her genuine sincerity, honesty and brilliant mind.

It is time to recognize that women can do a great job, many times better than men and Sarah Palin's record shows she is exceptional.

THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND THE LIBERAL MEDIA IS IN DISARRAY, CONFUSED AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH after the Maverick, John McCain chose Sarah Palin, a woman reformer for VP. Their response has been a vicious attack on Sarah ranging from insults to smearing and the sexist tactics that brought Hillary's campaign crashing down.

OBAMA FRACTURED AND DIVIDED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHEN HE REJECTED THE CHOICE OF 18 MILLION DEMOCRATS and instead of choosing Hillary Clinton for VP, he chose an old Washington politician Joe Biden, and by this grave mistake in choice, negated the flag of "change" Obama had been waiving and replaced it with the flag of "more of the same".
On the other side, THE MAVERICK STOLE THE MANTRA OF CHANGE FROM BARACK WHEN HE SELECTED A WOMAN REFORMER FOR VP, who has gained the respect of the State she governs as well as of the nation governors.

THE MCCAIN/PALIN TICKET HAS GIVEN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA TO ALL THE 18 MILLION FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTERS who now have a very compelling reason to vote for the republican ticket, as a way to put their country first by electing a president that has the qualifications, experience and love for our country and at the same time elect a woman to the White House as equal partners in governance and leadership of our country.

Country First!

DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN/PALIN!

Posted by: Manolete | September 20, 2008 7:26 PM

john5750,

Go crawl back under your RNC/Palin-McCain rock. What? Do you think people are stupid? All this has long since been debunked as innuendos, half-truths and flat out lies.

Posted by: Dave | September 20, 2008 7:24 PM

Spare us the condescension. McCain and Palin have every intention of underming Roe v. Wade. McCain essentially sold his soul to the devil on this one, making himself beholden to the religious right.

And you think the president's hands are tired with regard to Supreme Court nominees? Then explain how Bush got two incredibly conservative justices through a Democrat-controlled Congress. Congress' literal clout on withholding approval of judges is significantly less than its political clout. At best, they could hope for one moderate and one conservative (assuming the next president appoints only 2 - and it's quite possible there will be 3). And remember, nominees don't give yes or no answers to questions like "Would you overturn Roe v. Wade?" There's no way in hell that McCain would ever nominate a judge unless he was confident he/she would pass the litmus test on this one.

Posted by: Fuz | September 20, 2008 7:23 PM

When Obama become POTUS 2008 He should let John McCain secretary of old folks home usa.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 7:22 PM

Many Hillary supporters continue to be divisive and now is not the time. NOW supports Obama because of his work with women and his concern for women issues. They should not support McCain just because Palin is a women no more than a women should support Palin or Hillary just because they are women. It is the issues that are more important than gender and deep down those who are divisive know that but are angry and resentful. I don't see how their anger will help this country by voting against the party that will promote women's rights way more than the McCain ticket.
What is really at issue is the make up of the Supreme Court; the next president will have the chance to replace at least two judges; I would hope for all women that that president with that power is Obama

Posted by: Miss Lisa | September 20, 2008 7:22 PM

I HOPE THAT THIS COVERUP AND SO MANY OTHER DARK SECRETS OF OBAMA'S ARE EXPOSED BEFORE NOVEMBER.

AYERS, OBAMA, DALY, UIC, ANNENBERG, AND CHICAGO ALL WRAPPED UP IN ONE LITTLE PACKAGE.

OBAMA & AYERS HAVE BEEN CLOSE FRIENDS AND COLLABORATORS FOR 20 YEARS.

AYERS HELPED OBAMA START HIS CAMPAIGN.

WHEN AYERS CAME OUT OF HIDING, CHICAGO MAYOR DALY GAVE AYERS A JOB AT UIC WHICH HOLDS THE ANNENBERG PAPERS.

NOW DALY REFUSES TO RELEASE THE PAPERS AND THE SECRETS THEY HOLD ABOUT OBAMA & AYERS, SINCE HE IS ONE WHO CONTROLS THE LIBRARY, THE UNIVERSITY, AND CHICAGO.

Obama’s Lost Annenberg Years Coming to Light.

The cloak of media invisibility is slowly beginning to lift from Barack Obama’s most important administrative leadership experience, helming an expensive educational reform effort in Chicago that failed to produce any measurable academic gains, according to the project’s own final report.

Add in the fact that former Weatherman and admitted terrorist William Ayers (whom Obama described in the Philadelphia debate as merely a “neighbor”) was head of the operating arm of the CAC, working with Obama on distributing scores of millions of dollars to grantees in the wards of the city, and you have a topic that the Obama campaign wishes to avoid at all costs.


The four plus years (1995-1999) Barack Obama spent as founding chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) represent his track record as reformer. At the time he became leader of this project to remake the public schools of Chicago, he was 33 years old and a third year associate at a small Chicago law firm, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

This was a big test for him, and he flopped big time, squandering millions of dollars and the time of many public employees in the process.


Now, it appears a cover-up is underway, in order to prevent journalists and researchers from getting access to the records of this charitable project housed in a taxpayer supported library.

And there is a mystery:
The UIC Library says it is acting on behalf of the donor, whom it refuses to name.

It took Stanly Kurtz, of National Review Online to ask permission to see the files held by the publicly-funded University of Illinois Chicago (UIC). After initially agreeing, The Richard J. Daley Library withdrew permission.

Kurtz writes:
“The Special Collections section of the Richard J. Daley Library agreed to let me read them, but just before I boarded my flight to Chicago, the top library officials mysteriously intervened to bar access.

Circumstances strongly suggest the likelihood that Bill Ayers himself may have played a pivotal role in this denial. After coming out of hiding and being given the job by Mayor Daly, Ayers has taught at UIC, where the Chicago Annenberg Challenge offices were housed, rent-free.

Ayers likely arranged for the files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to be housed in the UIC library, and may well have been consulted during my unsuccessful struggle to gain access to the documents.”

It is highly unusual and legally questionable for a publicly-funded archive to deny access to records in its collection, particularly when they have a bearing on matters of intense public interest: The qualifications of a man seeking to be Commander in Chief.

But even if the university manages to stall release of the records until after the election, it is only drawing attention to the project.

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a function of Obama & Ayers disbursing millions of “foundation cash” into the notoriously corrupt and ineffective Chicago Public School kleptocracy to grease the skids for Obama’s “rise” to power.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 7:21 PM

"Osama Bin Lama" Is this what happens when Alpacas go bad? I guess he is an Islamaist terrorist, lol.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 7:19 PM

Now why would John McCain not release his medical records? Why might that be? Please, would some brainwashed, fear-driven, uneducated, patriotic dupe please give me an answer?

Posted by: Joe Six Pack | September 20, 2008 7:16 PM

Jack-The-Ripper is a RNC troll.

Posted by: Dave | September 20, 2008 7:16 PM

Silly question, but why would Todd Palin be the "first dude", wouldn't he be the second dude or is Sarah Palin just planning ahead?

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 7:13 PM

brock101:

I certainly hope President McCain nominates Justices like Roberts and Alito.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 7:13 PM

Our Elections With The Exception Of Nixon,& Watergate Were Run Very Organized For Years Until SATAN Delivered To Us BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA And His Hitler Youth Who Constantly Keeps BS Going On A 24/7 Basis.Barack Obama Has Stood Right In Front Of His Supporters Face And LIED Over,& Over Again,Changed Positions On (FISA,HOPE,& CHANGE,ISRAEL,& JERUSILEM,OUR WITHDRAWAL OF TROOPS IN THE SIX MONTH PERIOD HE STATED FOR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY,DUCKING,& DODGING DEBATES,READING FROM A TELEPROMPTER,HE NOW MARGINALIZE OUR TROOPS IN AN ATTEMPTED COUP, TO GAIN ON HIS POLITICAL PURSUIT OF THE WHITE HOUSE)And The List Goes On,& On It Seems That Nothing This Man Does Is He Held Accountable For,People That's Not Democracy,That Capitalism,Hitler ism,Stalinist,& Croynism,His Books He Penned Was A Prelude To His Advancement Towards The Political Stardom,He Attempt With Great Success I Might Add To Preemptive Strikes To The American People So He Can Say See I Told You They Were Going To Say He's BlACCCCKKKK,He's Should Be On Our Money.Which Is What He Will Do If His Hitler Youth And My Ignorant Race Aren't Held To The Utmost Accountability Before November,4 2008.In His Books He Prepared His Beginning With Predestined Allegations Of Expediency,About 80% Of His Books Were About His Negative Aspirations While Struggling Within Himself Whether He Were Black,Arabic,White,& My Favorite (YELLOW).

I Cannot Understand How This Man Manages To Evade Our Justice System With All The Unlawful Criminal Activity He,& His Crooks,& Liars Are Continuously Engaging In,It's A Disgrace, And It Should Be An Act Of War To Let This Man Anywhere Near Washington,DC,We Are Very Close To WWIII And The Candidate That Should Be Nominated Well Lets Just Say She Were Hoodwinked,& Bamboozled Out Of Contention By The Very Party That Stabbed Her In The Back,And If I Did Not Know Better From The Way She Earnestly Support Obama,& The Communist Party Are Part Of A Systematic Hostile Takeover,Theirs No Way That One Could Be That Loyal To A Party That Demonized Her Very Existence,And Come Out And Go Against Some Of Her Most Ardent Supporters,And What Does She Do She Comes Out And Supports Barack Hussein Osama Bin Lama...................(ENOUGH SAID)


(PUMAPACNC08)

Posted by: Jack-The-Ripper | September 20, 2008 7:11 PM

Keep your eyes on the prize. Stay focused. It is imperative that we win this thing. This election is not about Obama/Biden or even McCain/Palin. It is about us. We have a higher stake in all this. We simply cannot afford to lose.
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You do republican better.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:11 PM

Proving my point, millions of times a day.

Posted by: Joe Six Pack | September 20, 2008 7:10 PM

John 5750

We won't fall for the banana in the tail pipe.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:09 PM

Don't feed the trolls people. No need to argue. We know what this is.

The next few weeks will get even uglier where the GOP will attempt to distract us from the issues.

Keep your eyes on the prize. Stay focused. It is imperative that we win this thing. This election is not about Obama/Biden or even McCain/Palin. It is about us. We have a higher stake in all this. We simply cannot afford to lose.

Go Obama/Biden/WE THE PEOPLE 08

Posted by: notthistime | September 20, 2008 7:08 PM

I am sick and tired of the Hillary supporters ranting and railing about this election. Either you vote for Obama or you don't--no one is going to kiss your butt to get your vote
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Eh.

Light of the world, shine on me, kook is not the answer.

(sigh)

I'm beginnig to think when it comes to defending their criminality, the republcains are much smarter, the democrats the dumbsh*ts.

OTOH, when it comes to true governing abilities and an understanding of HOW the American government is supposed to function, (ala Bill Clinton), democrats (mostly) are superior.

I guess it was a really bad crop there, for awhile, for both parties.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:08 PM

Understandably, HRC supports Obama because they're far more similar "on the issues" than she and McCain are - and that's obviously more important than the candidates' genders.

That said, though, NOW's position seems rather strange to me, as did their reaction (or lack thereof) to documented cases of sexual harassment on Bill's part. UNLESS - and understand here that *I am pro-choice* - NOW is more a pro-choice than generically pro-woman organization.

Posted by: muse76 | September 20, 2008 6:49 PM


They're feminists fourth or fifth on their lists of priorities.

Number 1 is that they are partisan tools nailed to the democratic party, and will undermine even feminism to serve their number one function.

Number 2 is that they are out for themselves and someone or some few inside the organization got a lot of perks or networking plusses for letting their organization be used for partisan purposes.

Number 3 is that liberal feminist women are in fact male chauvinist sheep, in that they are submissive to whatever man is manning the flagship of the faction they favor within the democratic party. This one is worth elaborating on.

One trait of liberal feminist women is that they have a narcissistic need to feel more powerful than other women, i.e. they don't really care about other women. This peculiar personality trait of liberal feminists means that they can never really support another top executive woman ascending over a man when the there is any compelling argument they can use to justify supporting the man over the woman. There is a reason why it is a powerful democratic woman (Madeleine Albright) who said "there is a special place in hell for women who don't help another woman". There is no more hated creature than a top executive democratic woman: not only do the Republicans and male chauvinists hate her, but the liberal feminists personally despise her too. It's a kind of jealous-female misogyny that liberal feminists feel toward truly iconic, powerful women who are above them. Note, btw, how easily they ignore even the most distinguished Republican women, too. Like Condoleeza Rice, who is easily one of the most impressive women on the world stage.

Given all of the above requirements are met first, then they are for women.

I.e. the "feminism" of liberal feminists is an affectation they engage in when their other political and personal agendas are taken care of first. Their "feminist activism" only magically activates when it benefits their other, more important agendas.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 7:07 PM

First dude todd is a weak man. He know his wife should be at home with their special needs baby. You don't see him anymore. Sen brownback is a big hypocrite, and should be called out. He was the main one saying a woman should stay at home, and raise the children. I'm so tired of the holy eeeer then thou crowd.

Paster of the end timers

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 7:06 PM

If some of you would pay attention, you would know that neither McCain nor Palin have any intention of attacking Roe v Wade.

They have pro-life personal opinions, but choose not to get involved in the pro-choice legalities.

Even if they did try to attack Roe v Wade the Democratic Congress wouldn't allow it.

Just as the Democratic Congress wouldn't approve judicial nominations they didn't agree with. McCain will have his hands tied with the Democratic Congress.

Which is why I am voting for McCain-Palin 2008 and Hillary 2012.

I refuse to vote for a corrupt, lying, hypocrite like Obama.

I wish I could vote for Hillary, but Obama sent his thugs into the caucuses to steal her delegates. So, it's McCain the Hero, not Obama the Zero.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 7:05 PM

Vote McCain and prove to the world just how ignorant, uneducated, and brainwashed the U.S. people have become.

Posted by: Joe Six Pack | September 20, 2008 7:04 PM

Coldcomfort:

Gov. Palin is not a woman?!

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 7:04 PM

Doesn't everyone understand that Bush didn't have the authority to overturn Roe v. Wade? That's up the Supreme Court. Bush filled his 2 appointments with judges who would be more than happy to revisit the issue, so there are now 4 out 5 of five who would vote to reverse. The next president will get to replace at least 2 of the 5 (Stevens and Ginsburg).

Also, while it's true that a reversal of Roe would leave it up to the states to decide for the time being, a ruling that there's no constitutional right to abortion would open the door for Congress to enact a law prohibiting it.

Finally, I'm pretty sure that "disdain" isn't a verb.

Posted by: Fuz | September 20, 2008 7:03 PM

Sorry Jerk D,

Palin is not more experienced than Obama. Palin couldn't govern a city that required her to do very little so she hired someone to do it for her.
She won 629 votes to become mayor and won a little more than 800 for re-election.
When Palin made a decision as mayor it was to build a hockey rink on property Wasilla did not own and this major decision has put that tiny town 23 million in debt.
Every bit of experience the McCain camp has said Palin has, has been ripped to shreds as lies. She's an absentee who doesn't know what's going on.
She won the governorship by avoidng the media, missing a vast majority of the candidate forums and simply stated the answers were in her index cards when asked a question.
McCain is trying to help Palin become VP the same way she became governor. She simply has to avoid the media, not take questions and pray the sheer force of her personality is enough.
God help us all if McCain wins because the presidency will be Palin's. That's not fearmongering. I do not belive McCain will make it through his term and if he does, again God help us all. The foreign policy man doesn't seem to know much foreign policy. For those of us paying attention it's frigthening and the Palin phenom has provided cover for him.
latest examples this week. Doesn't know the Prime minister of Spain is an American ally, The economy and that it was the army not the National guard that sent Palin's kid to war.
Sorry but for all his "experience" he simply instills fear and enough of it may get him elected.
Certainly there are questions about Obama, but have more faith in his ability to sort through massive amounts of information and have an intelligent conversation about it than I do about Palin who's afraid to talk to the media.

Posted by: Sheila | September 20, 2008 7:01 PM

Jake D

McCain is a bush boot licker. People can see that Mcswitch will do, and say anything to get elected. McCain 2000 would kick 2008 fannie mae.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 7:00 PM

I absolutely understand the disappointment, but if they hadn't noticed, people have come together for a common cause after the Dem Convention. This particular group is not stopping the rest of us from pushing our common agenda, far beyond the candidates themselves. We have issues to vote for, no less. This is not about Hillary Clinton, or Barack Obama as individuals. If that were the case, I wouldn't be voting. I think there are more people who share that common sense, compared to this few.

As mentioned about all of the puzzlement, in this article, I am puzzled that no issues were laid out in regards to the reasoning for supporting Hillary Clinton, PERIOD, other than for the fact that she was a woman or so it seems. Next, they talk of support for Palin, after supporting Hillary Clinton, simply because she is a woman? What about the issues? What reasons are there for supporting Hillary, to suddenly start supporting Palin, with regard of the issues? Have we no stances or our own ideals of what we feel needs to happen? What reason is there other than gender? I find it reverse sexism if they can't find sincere reasoning to vote for either. They share opposite views on the issues, and Palin is not even on Hillary's level of standard. This group holds no water of sincerity, and I don't think they have a clue of what they stand for, other than voting on the basis of gender.

I'm far more pleased with The Feminists who recognize The Issues, and on behalf of more groups of people other than those of only our gender. Praise to THESE particular feminists. Right on! I think the others need to get a clue.

If they agree with Palin and McCain, good for them; if they are clueless of their own stances on the issues, and in for voting against their own interests, as they were in Hillary's corner to begin with....good luck to them. The rest of us are moving Forward.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 20, 2008 7:00 PM

I am sick and tired of the Hillary supporters ranting and railing about this election. Either you vote for Obama or you don't--no one is going to kiss your butt to get your vote...but know this and listen well--if Obama loses do any of you Hillraisers really think that the Blacks will vote for Hillary in 2012? Do you really think that? If Obama loses it will be because the whites and women in the Democratic Party crossed over to vote for McShame and do ANY of you think that Black people will vote for ANY white man that runs in 2012? The Democratic Party need the Black vote...they always vote 95% Democratic..if Obammi loses do you think the Democratic Party will continue to exist? There goes Roe vs Wade....Oh Yeah!Never seen a bunch of people who want to vote against their own best interest like the Hillraiser bunch...Pray tell...I like the fact that you pro-life women will vote for McShame...all of you make this election interesting...

Posted by: necie4010 | September 20, 2008 7:00 PM

Jake d

Don't worry about. Get a sex change, and start your own womans group

Posted by: chitown | September 20, 2008 6:58 PM

Angela:

If you want to talk numbers, Bush got over 6 million DEMOCRATS to vote for him in 2004. Do you think McCain will get less than that?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:58 PM

I think NOW has a prefect right to support Obama. After all, a woman like Sarah Palin would set women's causes back fifty-years. . . . . . . . Of course they should make it known, "We want a woman, but Sarah is definitely not the one."


REPUBLICIANS SOCIALIZE THEIR LOSSES, AND PRIVATIZE THEIR GAINS.

OH, WONDERFUL THE MARKETS ARE RALLYING -- on the shoulders of our children and grandchildren.

BEWARE OF THE TRICKLE OUT EFFECT.

JOHN MCCAIN IS NO MAVERICK -- HE'S TOO MUCH OF A TENDERFOOT, ALWAYS SHOOTING FROM THE HIP. . . . . . . and missing.

AND NOW PALIN IS STONEWALLING THE INVESTIGATION IN TROOPER-GATE, just like George Bush always does. . . . . . Did someone say Bush in boots? . . . . . . . . Oh, by-the-way, who do you wonder will President Palin pick for the Supreme Court?


REPUBLICIANS SOCIALIZE THEIR LOSSES, AND PRIVATIZE THEIR GAINS.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | September 20, 2008 6:57 PM

Don't feed the trolls people. No need to argue. We know exactly what this is.

The next few weeks will get even uglier where the GOP will attempt to distract us from the issues.

Keep your eyes on the prize. Stay focused. It is imperative that we win this thing. This election is not about Obama/Biden or even McCain/Palin. It is about us. We have a higher stake in all this. We simply cannot afford to lose.

Go Obama/Biden/WE THE PEOPLE 08

Posted by: notthistime | September 20, 2008 6:57 PM

john5750 - You seem confused. Let me 'splain something. There is no PRIMARY election. There are primaries and caucuses. Plural. Perhaps you weren't aware of this until this year.

I'm surprised at your ignorance, given the events of 8 years ago. We don't have a national vote tally. It's called the Electoral College. Similar concept. Read a bit about party rules before posting.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington blade | September 20, 2008 6:57 PM

Even though underneath those appearances, we don't really know what lies, because we are so focused on what the eye can see.

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Even if it means silly little stupid men betray their country, because they think like the spoon fed pups they are...

I was thinking how Cheney and co ran afoul of intelligence in this country, and I was wondering if the Democrats have had the pleasure?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:55 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 6:54 PM

PoeChamp - Do you understand what is going on? Roe vs. Wade was a Supreme Court decision. Bush could not overturn that. He can, however, appoint justices firmly opposed to the opinion such as Roberts and Alito (stare decisis my hiney), bring the court to a firm 4 votes against Roe v Wade.

If McCain is elected, RvW is gone. If Obama is elected, it's likely to stand. Pro-lifers should be celebrating and advertising the fact. That is, unless you think that it won't win votes.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | September 20, 2008 6:52 PM

Time after time:

Why did NOW only endorse female tickets up until this election?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:52 PM

I see your 30 women, and raise them with over 150,000 more. Oh plus at least 1500 at the Alaska Rally -- Women against Palin.

http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/
http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/rally-report-palin/

NOW has never spoken for this independent, but I can guarantee you neither does Sarah Palin. I'll stand with my other sisters for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Angela | September 20, 2008 6:51 PM

Someday, a million years from now, it won't matter what gender you are.

We will judge you by your intellect, your actions, and your morals.

But for now, we will promote those who look like ourselves, who appear to be like us.

Even though underneath those appearances, we don't really know what lies, because we are so focused on what the eye can see.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:51 PM

Vote for the best candidates for the job and in this case, that is two men.
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Tell me how, given the democratic track record under Bush ie, FISA, the war, off shore drilling.

Really.

Why should I feel the democrats will protect my rights, the Constitution, given what they've done about Cheney?


You cant just deal in feel good platitudes, here, you really have to look underneath the surface to business associations and character, et al.

So, you know, I'm not buying.

And BTW, Biden's intellect is the only saving grace here, he's the smartest, I'm hoping he's able to push his lobbyist money aside IF they gain the WH, and that's a big if.

But I dont expect much.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:50 PM

Understandably, HRC supports Obama because they're far more similar "on the issues" than she and McCain are - and that's obviously more important than the candidates' genders.

That said, though, NOW's position seems rather strange to me, as did their reaction (or lack thereof) to documented cases of sexual harassment on Bill's part. UNLESS - and understand here that *I am pro-choice* - NOW is more a pro-choice than generically pro-woman organization.

Posted by: muse76 | September 20, 2008 6:49 PM

WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED

As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. WE THE PEOPLE expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected.

However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this was not the case. The DNC made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee.

That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners, I-pods",etc.

There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.



It is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.

This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America.

We believe Obama's Chicago Machine of dirty politics encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED.

See a preview here:

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

...

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 6:48 PM

These women must have no respect for Hillary Clinton at all if they think Palin is in her league or shares her values. Beyond belief.

Posted by: Eric | September 20, 2008 6:48 PM

freelyb:

I was not born in a barn, nor am I in one right now. God willing, I will be posting here on Nov. 4th. See how easy it is to answer question?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:47 PM

OBAMA AND RACISM

I hate the way Obama gets away with his continual lying. The media lets him slide on false ads and every lie that comes out of his mouth. But, they attack McCain for speaking the truth. Obama is corrupt to the bone.

Can you imagine if Hillary or McCain had a close friend of 20 years who helped them start their campaign, and this friend bombed American sites and murdered cops, but got away with it because he had a wealthy family who helped him get off on a technicality.

And, this friend recently said he only regrets that he didn't do more damage, and still stomps on the American flag.

That's Obama's friend, Bill Ayers. He lives down the street from Obama. Obama and Michelle socialize with him and his wife (who is also a terrorist bomber).

Of course, there's Rezko the Chicago crook who is in prison now. Can you imagine if he helped Hillary or McCain buy their mansion with money from Auchi, and Irqai criminal billionaire.

What would you think of Hillary's or McCain's judgement if it took them 20 years to figure out that their preacher was an anti-American racist. And, subjected their children to that hate on a regular basis.

What would you think if Hillary sent thugs and Chicago blacks into the caucuses to steal delegates using theft, threats, force, and every kind of fraud imaginable.

What would you think if Hillary took over the DNC so that the over 2000 complaints filed in Texas alone, with the phone lines jammed, will never be seen again.

Would you approve of Hillary or McCain doing some "community organizing" to illegally register non-existent people, triple register, and commit other various types of election and voter fraud.

What do you think about 90% of a certain race voting for a corrupt, lying, hypocrite just because he's the same race.

Well, it's starting to turn me against the whole race. I hate to say it, and I hate to feel that way, but that's how Obama makes me feel.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 6:46 PM

Actually, it's great that there is a group that is focused on promoting women in politics, no matter what the cost. I believe it is similar to having all-female schools. One should note, however, that all-women schools are designed to shelter women from the onslaughts of sexism that might otherwise prevent them from achievement and intellectual development. The role of NOW and other large women's organizations is not to promote women by refraining from interacting with the larger sexist world. Rather, it is to confront that sexism directly by fighting for women's causes and fighting the manacles--both existing and threatened--that yes, may even come through the advocacy of one of their own.

Posted by: Time after time | September 20, 2008 6:45 PM

This campaign is about more than supporting a candidate because of their sex. If we want equality we have to look beyond a person's gender, showing that we think and do not follow any person blindly. Supporting women is supporting the rights that we have fought so hard to win. Voting for McCain/Palin, simply because Palin is a woman is throwing us back rather than forward. They have both stated, categorically, that want to see Roe v. Wade overturned, and that is just one example of the basic freedoms that we are in danger of losing, or have already lost.

Voting for someone who is categorically unqualified for a job, just because of their sex, is doing all of us injustice. Yes, she is a working mother, but there are a lot of working mothers out there, and there are women out there who are far more qualified than Sarah Palin.

I was and am a supporter of Hillary Clinton, and I respect her and my country enough that I will not vote against everything that she and I believe in just because she was not chosen to run with Obama. If we want a country that we can respect lets show the world that we can think for ourselves. Vote for the best candidates for the job and in this case, that is two men.

Let's show Sarah Palin what equality is and demand that she answer the same questions that a man would have to answer. Don't let her hide behind her sex and don't vote for her just because of that same sex.

Posted by: Liz | September 20, 2008 6:44 PM

Good thing all women are not voting with their uteruses, but their brains. I disdain, one issue voters.

Let's take Roe V Wade. Bush is pro-life and he has not overturned Roe V Wade in 8 years, so all you have is your fear talking.

Also, if Roe V Wade gets overturned, then it will revert back to each state to decide for itself.

Posted by: PoeChamp | September 20, 2008 6:44 PM

I think John Mcfreak would make a great dirty old man and chief. He can't stop looking at palin's ass.

What ass? I prefer to look at Michelle Obama's. I envy Barack!

Posted by: JohnMcCain | September 20, 2008 6:43 PM

Any presidential candidate that promises to overturn Roe v. Wade is dangerous to the NOW movement's agenda. This is exactly what a McCain/Palin administration promises to do. They argue that even in the instance of rape or incest, woman should be LEGALLY restricted from having an abortion. In fact, they suggest that having one is tantamount to "homicide" because, as they see it, 'a life is a life no matter how it comes into being'.

Yet, they support capital punishment. I guess a life isn't a life beyond the date of birth.

NOW did the right thing. In fact it was of critical importance that they sent a message to men that it would take more than the selection of a woman as VP to capture their support. Particularly when that selectee is against everything that their movement has fought decades to achieve. In essence, that "female" candidate pick was MORE dangerous to the movement BECAUSE she is a woman.

This just goes to show you, equal rights and justice is not achieved by the race and/or gender of the perrson. It is achieved based upon the person's standing on issues and what they will fight to protect or inequities that they will fight to equalize.

Obama/Biden believe that a woman should be paid the same amount as a man for the same work. McCain/Palin DO NOT.

NOW recognizes that the devil is in the details. Lets just hope that all women make that connection.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 20, 2008 6:43 PM

"...democratic women are sheep. Perhaps there is a reason why they are marginalized in their own party while Republican women take more prominent roles in their party and in executive suites generally. "
Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008
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Aspergirl,

Seriously, one girl to another...what the hell is wrong with you?

Covergirl

Posted by: Covergirl Model | September 20, 2008 6:40 PM

Anonymous:

I was asking "freelyb" because she / he dismissed Lady Rothchild as someone with a "big girl body".

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:39 PM

I don't think NOW would be supporting Obama if Hillary Clinton had not vigorously endorsed him
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I think with many Hillary supporters this has nothing to do with gender, this has to do with the democratic party.

How can a party that has strategically passed FISA, that LIED about ending the war, and which is now passing legislation to enable offshore drilling be valid?

They're lying.

And the longer people deny it, the worse it will be, for any number of reasons.

The republicans, the top, anyway, are starting to enter their period of reckoning, and the stupid democrats can't catch a clue?

And they can't.

I will not support any candidate whose first allegiance is to Exelon, at the expense of mr and mrs jones, of main street. That candidate is not loyal to his government for many reasons, whether he's democratic, or republican.

FISA is a betrayal of the Constitution, the democrats jumped right in, worse, they lied to the people about their support, they ALWAYS intended to pass it, they just needed a show for "the stupid voters."

See?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:39 PM

Obama is an elitist, and will hurt small-town America if elected.
Posted by: Jimmy Ortega

That's right Jimmy, keep up the Obama assault. Our friend Johnnie could use the help. You continue to focus on Obama hurting small town American while I and Johnnie, if he succeeds me destroy all America. lol!

Posted by: GeorgeBush | September 20, 2008 6:38 PM

JakeD,

You raise a moot point, a hypothetical impossiblity. Anti-intellectualism is no long in. On that day, will you finally exit the barn you were born in and come back to admit that YOU were wrong?

Posted by: freelyb | September 20, 2008 6:38 PM

WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED

As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. WE THE PEOPLE expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected.

However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this was not the case. The DNC made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Barack Obama as Democratic nominee. Senator Obama, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee.

That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners, I-pods",etc.

There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Clinton Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.

It is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.

This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America.

We believe Clinton's crooks of dirty politics encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Obama supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED.

Posted by: John Appleseed | September 20, 2008 6:38 PM

I think John Mcfreak would make a great dirty old man and chief. He can't stop looking at palins ass. that is the mean reason he picked her to keep him on top of his game, and her. Just because she have a vagina, don't make her 5 schools in 6 years qualified to run for sh?t.

Posted by: chitown | September 20, 2008 6:36 PM

One of the greatest political-psychology stories of the century is how a majority voting block like women (> 50 percent of electorate), have become so marginalized as a vote that not only is their vote held captive by one liberal party as if they were more marginal than the marginal populations who are held in higher agenda places than womens' issues, but they are held captive by the threat of overturning an abortion case precedent that only really affects women who are too poor or ignorant to cross a state line to get an abortion and wage issues that only affect low-class factory women.

democratic women are sheep. Perhaps there is a reason why they are marginalized in their own party while Republican women take more prominent roles in their party and in executive suites generally. Maybe it is the sheeplike, submissive and passive nature of democratic women that allows them to be such tools so willingly marginalized despite being a powerful majority vote (a power they don't exercise).

No wonder the democratic men felt so confident ordering them around:

"Shut up and get on board!"

Really works with them.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 6:35 PM

NOW gets my donations precisely for making this endorsement. Roe v Wade will not be overturned under Obama/Biden.
I think the (few) Hillary supporters who have turned to McCain are just plain racist. They truly don't care about women's rights or leadership as they do about the gender and color of a leader.
Sad state of affairs.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 20, 2008 6:35 PM

WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED

As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. WE THE PEOPLE expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected.

However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this was not the case. The DNC made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee.

That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners, I-pods",etc.

There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.

It is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.

This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America.

We believe Obama's Chicago Machine of dirty politics encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED.

See a preview here:

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

...

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 6:34 PM

NOW gets my donations precisely for making this endorsement. Roe v Wade will not be overturned under Obama/Biden.
I think the (few) Hillary supporters who have turned to McCain are just plain racist. They truly don't care about women's rights or leadership as they do about the gender and color of a leader.
Sad state of affairs.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 20, 2008 6:33 PM

Anonymous,

I'm not sure I get your point. I am an independent and gender didn't have anything to do with my choice, just as race doesn't either. Being an independent in my state means I cannot participate in the primaries so I had no say as of yet.

I will say one of, nay, probably the single biggest reason I would have difficulty voting for Clinton had she won the nomination was, from the perspective of this middle class, middle aged white guy, she was playing the race card to win votes. I live in Upstate New York, not far from the Pennsylvania, I know what the constituency is like over the boarder, and there are a whole lot of older people and blue collar/redneck democrats who voted their fears rather than their pocket book. Sad, but I believe it is true. These are the same fears Palin-McCain and there web posting surrogates are playing to and frankly it disgusts me.

People don't need to resort to smear tactics and lies, there is enough differences and real indications of who the candidates are to satisfy anyone and to differentiate between them.

Oh, but I forgot, the election isn't about issues.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 20, 2008 6:33 PM

Lynn Forester called Obama an elitist and that is why she is not supporting him. She is a rich, white woman who herself is an elitist. So, she knows what she is talking about. Obama is an elitist, and will hurt small-town America if elected.

Posted by: Jimmy Ortega | September 20, 2008 6:32 PM

OBAMA SHOULD EXPOSE THE MCCAIN CORRUPTION DURING THE KEATING SCANDAL AND FRIEND CHARLES KEATING

THEY'VE WORKED TOGETHER, PARTIED TOGETHER, STOLE FEDERAL FUNDS TOGETHER, CHARLES KEATING WAS ALSO A CONSTITUENT

THIS GUY RIPPED OFF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. HIS WEALTHY FRIENDS GOT HIM OFF ON A TECHNICALITY.


AND MCCAINS OTHER CLOSE FRIEND OF MANY YEARS VICKI ISEMAN, WHO WAS IN ON THE LOBBYING DEAL TO BUY MCCAIN'S VOTE


HE'S NOT EVEN A LEGITIMATE CANDIDATE. HE SENT HIS GOONS USING THREATS, FORCE, THEFT, AND FRAUD OF EVERY KIND.. HE'S UNDEMOCRATIC AND UN-AMERICAN. HE'S A THIEF.

JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH. THE MEDIA IS AFRAID TO

Posted by: John Appleseed | September 20, 2008 6:31 PM

Well, call me a raisin, but I'm am one of those hold-out Hillary Clinton supporters. And trust me, there are many of us.

C'mon, ladies, time to jump into the raisin box. We've got some work to do!

Hillary 2012

Posted by: Lucy | September 20, 2008 6:31 PM

lonewolf wrote:

careful ladies, we wouldn't want to all turn into raisins now would we?
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I dreamt about a wolf looking to give oral love yesterday.

I dont know what it is about your comment that cries "Larry Craig."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:31 PM

Rush limbaugh

Must have received special favors from Palin. That pervert hate all woman, except that street walker palin.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 6:31 PM

The very best thing The New Agenda could do for Obama would be to support Palin. Go get him, "ladies"!

Posted by: freelyb | September 20, 2008 6:29 PM

I don't think NOW would be supporting Obama if Hillary Clinton had not vigorously endorsed him. If the eight years under the all-male Clinton-Gore regime is any indication, the women of the "New Agenda" represents would probably benefit from an Obama-Biden rule relative to GOP McCain-Palin.

Posted by: RegisUrgel | September 20, 2008 6:29 PM

These moronic women really believe a thing I say? Are they blind or just plain stupid?
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Your very intellect and attempts to troll answer that question, spud.

Monkey see, monkey doo.

doobie, doobie doo, scooby!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:27 PM

Re: "she's [Hillary] become a gender politics tool to keep other executive women down."

What nonsense. Hillary cares about the ISSUES. She is supporting the candidate who best shares her policies and that is Obama.

Some of you think she's supposed to throw her brain out the window and support Jerry Fallwell in a skirt.


Posted by: Susan | September 20, 2008 6:25 PM

Reply junglejim123: It is very obvious that you are ill-informed as are the rest of the neo-cons. The over all intellect of this country is extremely low and your statements and lies only confirm this for us. Thank you for showing your true colors and intellect. In regards to Sarah Palin, she is a despictable mother. To exploit her unwed 17 yr old daughter and downe syndrome son in order to garner votes is unforgivable. How can she live with
herself after condemning her children this way only to scar them for life. Sarah Palin's true Idol is to the Republican party, and John McCain who said the biggest mistake he made is what he did to his first wife. I will not feel safe living in a country that is ruled by someone lacking morals and values and who has an explosive behavior disorder. Eight yrs of pure cronyism and republican rule is enough. WE NEED CHANGE! REAL HONEST CHANGE!! Obama/Biden change!!

Posted by: LKM | September 20, 2008 6:25 PM

Through Carly, McCain had promised us he would have more women in his administration than any president in history," said Siskind.

These moronic women really believe a thing I say? Are they blind or just plain stupid? Only reason Palin is on my ticket was to solidify the base and try to capture the Hilary vote. I lie faster than a speeding bullet, I'll promise the world to get elected then give what my friend George already has, emptiness. Vote for me, John McCain for change you'll never get!

Posted by: JohnMcCain | September 20, 2008 6:25 PM

well now, seems to me that theose darned hillary holdouts are just like those grapes hanging off the vines of september. careful ladies, we wouldn't want to all turn into raisins now would we?

Posted by: LONEWOLF | September 20, 2008 6:24 PM

BTW: have you seen a photo of Lynn Forrester?
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She's rich person beautiful, yes, but she's full of sh*t.

No true democrat could ever support a travesty like Palin, and McCain.

Ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:24 PM

john5750 is a nut case

Posted by: smart_sha | September 20, 2008 6:24 PM

Why am i not surprised HRC dissidents are behind the"New Agenda" group? It sounds like sour grapes from a bunch angry Hillary supporters.

Posted by: James | September 20, 2008 6:24 PM

Question if Bill ayers is what everyone say he is, why is this man still walking the streets? McCain sold out to the enemy. That is a known fact. He is a traitor.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 6:23 PM

freelyb:

If McCain-Palin get a majority of the vote on Election Day, will you come back to this thread and admit you were wrong? BTW: have you seen a photo of Lynn Forrester?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:23 PM

Frankly, I think for anyone who voted for Senator Clinton, it should not be a moral challenge to vote for Obama-Biden
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You're seeing the choice of Clinton in terms of gender, this has to do with the function of the democratic party, and how it serves the people, what it represents.

Until you make that distinction, you won't understand.


And try not to speak as a pedant, people won't like you, and they know...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:22 PM

I've always considered myself a feminist. I've been a member of NOW, I've subscribed to MS, I've gone to rallies, I've done volunteer work for NARAL, etc. And I'm voting for Obama/Biden.

As a former Hillary supporter, I wouldn't vote for Sarah Palin under ANY circumstances, and I know MANY women - and MEN - like me.

Because being a woman is NOT a requirement to be a feminist, and being a feminist does NOT require you to vote for a women who is against women's rights as Sarah Palin in.

This "New Agenda" group is just a very, very OLD agenda.

Posted by: ccatmoon | September 20, 2008 6:21 PM

waterfrontproperty wrote: It's not about equal rights or equal pay. It's about slaughtering the most innocent and their "right" to do so.
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sounds like the voice of experience talking.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:21 PM

McCAIN SHOULD EXPOSE THE OBAMA CORRUPTION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 YEARS - STARTING WITH BILL AYERS, OBAMA'S CLOSE FRIEND.

THEY'VE WORKED TOGETHER, PARTIED TOGETHER, STOLE FEDERAL FUNDS TOGETHER, AND STARTED THIS CAMPAIGN TOGETHER.

THIS GUY IS AN ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORIST WHO BOMBED AMERICAN SITES AND MURDERED AMERICANS. THE ONLY REASON HE HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED IS HIS WEALTHY PARENTS GOT HIM OFF ON A TECHNICALITY.

AND, THE GUY STILL SAYS HIS ONLY REGRET IS HE DIDN'T DO MORE KILLING AND BOMBING. AND, HE LIKES TO STOMP ON OUR AMERICAN FLAG.

AND OBAMA'S OTHER CLOSE FRIEND OF MANY YEARS WHO IS IN PRISON, REZKO, WHO WAS IN ON THE CORRUPT DEAL TO BUY OBAMA'S MANSION FOR HIM.

AND, AUCHI, THE IRAQI CRIMINAL WHO CAME UP WITH THE MONEY TO "BUY" OBAMA'S MANSION.

AND, THE CHICAGO MONEY-LAUNDERING PARTNERS. THE POLITICIANS WHO PUSHED OBAMA ALONG AND DID HIS WORK FOR HIM. FARRAKHAN, HAMAS, BLACK PANTHERS, ETC. THE ANTI-AMERICAN PREACHERS.

I DON'T THINK LAW-ABIDING AMERICANS WANT THIS SLIME IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

TALK ABOUT WHAT A USELESS, CORRUPT, 2-FACED, LOUDMOUTH, LIAR HE IS, NO EXPERIENCE, POOR JUDGEMENT, IMMATURE, NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THE ONLY THING OBAMA IS SUITABLE FOR IS BEING A SNAKE-OIL SALESMAN OR A PIMP.

HE'S NOT EVEN A LEGITIMATE CANDIDATE. HE SENT HIS GOONS INTO THE CAUCUSES TO STEAL HILLARY'S DELEGATES USING THREATS, FORCE, THEFT, AND FRAUD OF EVERY KIND.. HE'S UNDEMOCRATIC AND UN-AMERICAN. HE'S A THIEF.

JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH. THE MEDIA IS AFRAID TO.

Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 6:20 PM

Sarah Palin represents women about as well as she represents caribou. She's a joke when it comes to women's rights. Why don't these women realize that it's about representing women as equals -- and that this time, it takes two men to do that?

Posted by: Jayne | September 20, 2008 6:19 PM

AsperGirl:

Don't worry. In fact, since you have a doppleganger now, you know you are getting under their skin ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:10 PM


Et tu, JakeD!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 6:19 PM

Aspergirl,

We hear u the first time. Quit stomping your spoiled little feet. Your neighbors are trying to sleep.

Posted by: freelyb | September 20, 2008 6:19 PM

Sarah Palin representing women is a joke. Both her and McCain share belifs that require complete subservience of women to men. Sarah is not going to say or do anything that her men dont tell her to or give her permission for.

Posted by: Rick W | September 20, 2008 6:18 PM

Palin

The queen of small talk. Mastered the art of evading hard questions. Did you know she was state champ in bball?

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 6:18 PM

the Obama supporters I know, women all, did not want Hilary, either as prez or vp as she represents a past that includes pandering to big business (Nafta for one). As a centrist (think DLC) she is part of the problem in Washington. She lost the health care issue for us 14 years ago and some women I know lost respect for her when she "stood by her man". She pandered to Bush, trying to look conservative and supportive of the war when Obama saw it for what it was!

Posted by: Runo | September 20, 2008 6:17 PM

As a supporter of Sen. HRC the demonization of NOW by this fringe group is a spit in Sen. HRC's face.
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Posted by: jerry rubin | September 20, 2008 5:46 PM

Refined my feelings a bit about HRC, below. Very disappointed in her.

As a woman who supported Hillary Clinton's candidacy because of her brilliance, experience and impressive plans, I bought into her "experience" and "character" and "leadership" campaign arguments. I also contributed significant money to help her get nominated on account of her historic female candidacy.

Now, she argues against the compelling arguments she pitched for her candidacy, because they apply to McCain. She now argues for voting for any inexperienced guy with a "d" on his resume instead of an "r".

Are we really supposed to believe she's being invoked because suddenly the Obama camp loves Hillary so much she's their favorite surrogate?

Hillary's being deployed not because she's close to Obama (who hates her and whose supporters have promised to unseat her using the black vote the next time she's up for reelection). I.e. she's become a gender politics tool to keep other executive women down.

How meaningless her "historic candidacy" has become! That as a new female political executive icon, her first act is as a partisan tool to hack at the Republican would-be female ceiling-buster!

It's like supporting some "first black president" candidate, only to see him fail and turn himself gladly into a tool for taking down other "historic" black presidential candidates. By using her "historic candidacy" in this way, Hillary has has cheapened it and has made it clear that she's mostly about currying favor and positioning herself.

I have little respect for Hillary Clinton currying favor with Barack Obama by turning herself into some tool to use against the Republican "historic female candidate".

The things the Obama camp was saying about her being a cynical posturer were true. Hillary Clinton is only historic in that she's an historic hypocrite.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 6:17 PM

Frankly, I think for anyone who voted for Senator Clinton, it should not be a moral challenge to vote for Obama-Biden. Biden has always been a strong and consistent voice for women's rights in all his time in the senate. The record is there, look at it.

As for Senator Clinton...even as someone who has spent his whole adult life advocating and working for women's issues, I couldn't. I suppose my thinking has gone (at least I hope) beyond gender. I didn't vote for Bill Clinton either time (I wrote in my choice) and for the same reasons I couldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. I cannot accurately express in words what it is about them which causes me to feel this way, all I can offer is intuition. Maybe it has to do with the posturing which has been going on leading up to Senator Clinton's running for the presidency and I found her rather disingenuous in this regard. We all knew she would run, yet the feigned coyness wasn't creditable.

I do however feel Senator Clinton is very effective in her role in the senate, but as president? No, I don't think so.

Now with all of the prefacing, I have to say that if someone who voted for Clinton in the primaries votes for McCain simply because of Palin on the ticket all I can think is Bella Abzug must be crying in her grave.

You do a dishonor to women like Bella, Barbra Jordan, Shirley Chisholm and other women political pioneers who dedicated themselves to not only equal rights for women, but through their efforts stood for equality for all. Not to base someone on gender, race or religion, but on who they are...on their character.

To suggest that Palin can even stand close to women like these and yes, Hillary Clinton, is disrespecting everything they struggled so long and hard for. To vote only based on gender and not character and capabilities is the antithesis of what so many women and man have struggled for for so many years.

I can hear in my mind Bella's voice and I believe I have a fair idea what she would say, she would tell it like it is. No PC words from Bella. I can hear Barbra Jordon with her incredibly articulate voice saying what she thought of Palin. Barbra was one of those people who could tell you what she thought of you and you would leave smiling because of the way she did it even though she just chopped you down. If only Jordon were running for president, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

So please, all those Clinton voters, get over it. If you honestly feel Palin-McCain represent your views, vote for them. If you are using your vote to punish someone, you'd better think again. The presidency is a transient position, but Supreme Court justices are the gift who keep giving for a generation.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 20, 2008 6:14 PM

The New Agenda sounds like a group of confused 15 minute of fame seekers who want to control someone else's agenda. It is not mandatory for NOW to support Palin just because she is a woman. Palin first of all does not stand for anything that NOW or Hillarystand for.

"If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything" and that is just what these idiots have done and they have a lot of gall condemming NOW. NOW has been around for a long time and will be around long after these no-agenda confused individuals are gone.

Posted by: lg. | September 20, 2008 6:14 PM

Palin McCain ticket?

Mr. John Country first McCain is a joke. Chuck Hagel was being nice, but a lot of real conservatives are not buying the palin factor. Some conservatives would rather see a weak democrat like obama win before allowing that fool step foot in the oval office.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 6:13 PM

Thank God the "ladies" upset with the NOW endorsement are very much in the minority. As a fellow female, it sickens me to hear their shallow rationale. What it boils down to is that they didn't get their way in the primaries, and are now willing to drown out dialogue on issues that are frankly much more important than whatever sexist agenda they think they are promoting. I hear spoiled little girls in big girl bodies. Go to your rooms and think about it.

Posted by: freelyb | September 20, 2008 6:12 PM

AsperGirl:

Don't worry. In fact, since you have a doppleganger now, you know you are getting under their foreskin ;)

Posted by: JerkD | September 20, 2008 6:11 PM

Peter,

I understand the point you are raising, but you are missing one thing, Obama doesn't stand for limiting the rights of African Americans. If he did, and African Americans voted for him, they really would be stupid.

Posted by: H | September 20, 2008 6:10 PM

AsperGirl:

Don't worry. In fact, since you have a doppleganger now, you know you are getting under their skin ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 6:10 PM

AsperGirl:

Ever vote issues?...

Posted by: McCain_08 | September 20, 2008 6:03 PM


This topic on this forum is not about economic or military issues.

You are on the wrong board. There are other articles today about economics and campaign strategy, etc. You should go there instead of being here, berating women for discussing gender.

++++++++++++++++++++

Then what were YOU talking about, the weather?

Posted by: McCain_08 | September 20, 2008 6:09 PM

AsperGirl:

Ever vote issues?...

Posted by: McCain_08 | September 20, 2008 6:03 PM


This topic on this forum is not about economic or military issues.

You are on the wrong board. There are other articles today about economics and campaign strategy, etc. You should go there instead of being here, berating women for discussing gender.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 6:07 PM

McCain go from deregulator to who was watching the store. This man can't remember that because of old age. The window for mccain is closed, and if somehow he get elected GOD help us all.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 6:07 PM

The "New Agenda" is a bunch of old hags with more time than money. These "women" are so insignificant when it comes to the bulk of Hillary supporters I almost feel sorry for them. Go to the Republican Party ladies, the Dem's don't need you as there are thousands of donors who will gladly take your place at the table. Enjoy burning bridges and making yourselves look like fools. Also be honest, the only reason you aren't support Barack is because he is black or you are all just very petty people. The women who actually started fighting for women's rights would be ashamed of the members of the "New Agenda" group who is only interested in themselves are not the country.

Posted by: Rick | September 20, 2008 6:05 PM

Clearly the posession of a vagina is all the qualifications required by this group.
--------
No, no.

In fact, we prefer men with small penises, they're our forte.

Got a small dick?

Well come on in...

Look round the room...

You're here...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:04 PM

AsperGirl:

Ever vote issues? Every single one of your posts contradicts every single one of your posts. It's impossible to tell what you're REALLY for, and REALLY against. All I read is hatred for Obama, gender embrace, anger at Hillary for supporting Obama over McCain, but never a legitimate issue that isn't copied off from some right wing talking point.

Are you really that messed up? You remind me of a war torn soldier who has been fighting for so long that he forgot what he was fighting about.

Posted by: McCain_08 | September 20, 2008 6:03 PM

McCain voted to deregulate banking system 19 times, now the citizen kane wannabe forgot he is a part of what's wrong with washington.

Posted by: brock101 | September 20, 2008 6:02 PM

Clearly the posession of a vagina is all the qualifications required by this group.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:00 PM

As a supporter of Sen. HRC the demonization of NOW by this fringe group is a spit in Sen. HRC's face.
...
Posted by: jerry rubin | September 20, 2008 5:46 PM

As a woman who support Hillary Clinton's candidacy because of her brilliance, experience and impressive plans, I bought into her "experience" and "character" and "leadership" campaign arguments.

Not only that, I contributed money to help her get nominated on account of her historic candidacy.

Now, she argues against the compelling arguments for her candidacy, because they also apply to McCain. She argues for voting for a guy with a "d" on his resume instead of an "r".

Not only that, she's being deployed not because she's close to Obama (who hates her and whose supporters have promised to unseat her using the black vote the next time she's up for reelection), but because she's perceived as a leadership woman. I.e. having been belittled and marginalized with sexism herself, she's not reduced to being a gender tool to keep other executive women down.

Are we really supposed to believe she's being invoked because suddenly the Obama camp loves Hillary so much she's their favorite surrogate?

How meaningless her "historic candidacy" has become! That as a female icon, her first use is as a partisan tool to hack at the Republican would-be female ceiling-buster!

It's like supporting some "first black president" candidate, only to see him fail and turn himself gladly into a tool for taking down other black presidential candidates.

I feel little respect for Hillary Clinton currying favor with Barack Obama by turning herself into some Uncle Tom tool to hack at Republican women for him. The things the Obama camp was saying about her being a cynical posturer were true. Hillary Clinton is only historic in that she's an historic hypocrite.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:57 PM

Palin Says She’s a Change from The Scandal-Plagued Republicans,
But She’s More of the Same.
Palin built her reputation on criticizing state Republicans for
ethics questions, but Palin has questions of her own, as she used
city resources when she campaigned for Lt. Governor; Palin chaired
the campaign of another candidate in a race dominated by resource
issues when she was on the oil and gas commission and said that she
saw no conflict of interest. For years, Palin supported Murkowski,
campaigning for him across the state, and he supported her campaigns
as well.

Palin Touts Fiscal Conservatism, But She Increased Spending
Tremendously and Supported Tax Increases.
Palin constantly reminds us that she is a fiscal conservative.
But during her time as mayor, she increased the city’s budget at a
rate far outpacing the city’s growth with spending on large projects.
She supported sales tax increases and left the city with thousands
in per-capita debt, where none had existed when she came in. Palin
brags about eliminating the personal property tax, but with the same
legislation, the city increased motor vehicle fees that almost matched
the lost income of the personal property taxes.

Palin Is Too Socially Conservative for Libertarian Alaska.
Palin is a strong conservative—something she repeated throughout her
primary campaign but now seems to try to back off from. She is not only
pro-life but is involved with—and even steered tax money
toward—organizations that give misleading information on abortion.
She called herself a “hard-core fiscal conservative” who wanted government
to get to the bare bones. The Anchorage Daily News asked whether her
“socially conservative positions square with Alaska's generally
libertarian approach to those issues.” Palin also supported a flat tax,
an idea even Bob Dole thought was absurd.

Palin’s Management Style is to Bully and Demand Political Loyalty.
Palin’s tenure as mayor of Wasilla was marred by tremendous staff turnover,
first when she fired most of the top staff—including the city’s
librarian—because she questioned their loyalty, and then later when staff
quit because of her micromanaging style. Wasilla even lost the opportunity
to hire a police chief because he said the job seemed too political.

Palin’s Not Ready for Primetime.
Palin argues that she was the mayor of the fastest growing city in Alaska.
While that may be true, Wasilla’s population is still 1 percent of the
rest of the state of Alaska. The last budget Palin approved, $12.5 million,
is .2 percent of the $7.3 billion budget Tony Knowles approved.

Palin’s Not Tough Enough to Be A Strong Negotiator for Alaska.
As mayor, Palin fired someone because she said he intimidated her with his
size and because he gave her a “stern look.” She asked her department heads
to give her only good news and once complained because we are so desperate
in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture.”

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 5:53 PM

"I also like McCain. He also is a totally honest person. You may not like what he is saying, but you know it's the truth."

Sorry, but the new 2008 version of McCain has switched his positions so often and told so many flat out lies that I find it hard to believe that ANYONE believes what he says anymore.

McCain says that Obama will say and do anything to win an election including putting himself over his country. What BS! If Obama really only cared about winning the election he would have chosen Hillary for his VP and the race would have been over. Instead, he thought about how an Obama administration could best help and run America.

McCain chose Palin solely for political reasons and he's lying every day on the campaign trail and through tv commercials because the 2008 version of McCain puts McCain over his own country.

It's sad.

Posted by: Gary | September 20, 2008 5:52 PM

Gallup Daily: Obama 50%, McCain 44%

NEW September 20, 2008

Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Wednesday through Friday finds Barack Obama maintaining his lead over John McCain among registered voters, by a 50% to 44% margin.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:52 PM

Lance:

What was your question last week? If the election was held on a Saturday, most people would have not voted. If absentee balloting had been secretly available, my guess would be McCain-Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 5:47 PM

EXPERIENCE? OBAMA HAS MUCH LESS TO OFFER THAN SARAH PALIN

Obama is a freshman senator in the U.S. senate and has been mainly engaged in running for president since his first year. What is his professional history?

Obama got a "community organizer" job after 2 years of unemployment after graduating from Columbia with a bachelor's degree. And as his book admits, he didn't get anywhere as a "community organizer" and that's why he went back to law school.

And as we all know, after graduating from law school, Obama failed to make partner at his law firm, set no precedents in cases he might have handled, didn't get published in any law review and didn't produce any scholarly or professional works of any nature contributing to the field of law.

Obama's probably the only politician in the U.S. to not accomplish a single thing with an ivy league law degree before going into politics.

Obama's years as a state senator in Illinois were so devoid of any leadership that he voted "present" 130 times instead of "yes" or "no", now claiming he had to do so to avoid taking stands on "controversial legislation" (as if there were 130 career-killing controversial laws he had to take a pass on at the state level, come on!).

As an Illinois state senator, Obama climbed the greased pole of corrupt, dirty Chicago politics leveraging racist politics of Trinity Church, insider ex-radical terrorists like William Ayers' networks and trading favors with corruption figures like his convicted slumlord friend Tony Rezko.

Obama has never published journal article in any law review, collaborated on any professional project, engaged in no landmark signature legislation, or made any tangible, substantial contribution of any nature to his professions as a lawyer or politician.

The only tangible works Barack Obama produced in his life are 2 fictionalized books about himself, glorifying his search for identity and his alcoholic, polygamous, already-married Kenyan father who was a failed Muslim communist (huh?) who knocked up his then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned them.

Lately, Obama has been trying to claim his "experience" "running" a campaign stacks up against Sarah Palin's experience as elected Governor of Alaska! Running for president is the experience needed to be president! That's almost as self-referential as "we are the ones we've been waiting for"!

And I was truly surprise to discover that Obama uses a whole team of speechwriters. Giving great speeches is the only professional leadership talent he has true claim to! I thought he was writing his own speeches this whole time.

NY Times Feature Article on Obama's Head Speechwriter
By Ashley Parker, The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:46 PM

NOW
stopped being pro women
years ago
think NOW
threatened
by successful women
NOW
has lost its voice
NOW is reason
to switch the channel
think NOW
is scared of the governor
who is a great example
a new kind of woman
from a 52 year old state
with a can do attitude

Posted by: skc | September 20, 2008 5:46 PM

As a supporter of Sen. HRC the demonization of NOW by this fringe group is a spit in Sen. HRC's face.

To suggest that you would support someone of Sen. McCain stature, his views, his opinions, his votes, his flip-flops of almost any issue during the campaign or before relevant to women needs is like someone hacking into a computer with baseless assaults.

First, if Sen. HRC would have been the nominee, do you really believe that the GOP would have nominated a women. Let us be clear, Sen. McCane did not choose his running mate, the party did.

Second, if you can endorse a candidate who has a running mate who believes that someone should pay for a rape kit in a hospital, you are as equal as the person who assaulted the women.

Third, if you can believe women in this country will have a more prominent and just role in this society (assuming that Sen. McCane wins), I suggest you move to England where Ms.Rothschild has her estate.

Fourth, I have no elusions about Sen. Obama being the best candidate to win the Democratic nomination, but I surely am not diluted to believe that I would blindly use my vote because Sen. McCane chose a women if I look at all her credentials.

Fifth, Sen. HRC is one of our finest Senators and First Ladies of this proud country. But for now she is the beacon to the future of how women could change this country for the better rather then send us back to the middle ages and the Inquisition.

Lastly, I did not spell Sen. McCane incorrectly. I spelled it just as the bible (Cane and Abel).

Posted by: jerry rubin | September 20, 2008 5:46 PM

Anti-Palin women should listen to her sometime. It's always good to know what the other thinks and not just rely on what biased people are telling you she thinks.

Even though I am a hardcore Democrat and a staunch Hillary supporter I wanted to know what Gov. Palin is all about.

I watched her interview with Charlie Gibson. He was rough on her, he didn't coddle her like he did Obama. She received some tough questioning.

I learned she is very intelligent, perceptive, confident, strong, and personable. Very much like Hillary, but without the extensive experience, record of accomplishments, and knowledge that Hillary has.

I don't agree with her on some issues like abortion and other social issues. But, she clearly stated that those are her personal opinions and she has no desire to impose them on others. I believe her. She has a record of being totally honest.

I also like McCain. He also is a totally honest person. You may not like what he is saying, but you know it's the truth.

If you plan on voting you really need to do some research like googling. You can't simply rely on tv ads. There are a lot of lies flying out there with almost all coming from Obama and his followers.

For instance, even though Obama is running ads trying to make you believe McCain brought on this financial crisis, the truth is:

McCAIN REPEATEDLY WARNED OF THIS CRISIS AND TRIED TO PASS LEGISLATION TO PREVENT IT.

"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole." -Sen. John McCain

OBAMA TOOK MORE LOBBYI$T MONEY THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR. INCLUDED IN THOSE MILLION$ WAS MONEY FROM HIS FRIEND AND ADVISOR FRANKLIN RAINES AT FANNIE MAE WHO MADE $90 MILLION HIMSELF. OBAMA WAS PAID TO STOP McCAIN'S LEGISLATION SO THE CORRUPTION COULD CONTINUE. HE DID.


Posted by: john5750 | September 20, 2008 5:45 PM

Any group purporting to support the rights of women, that sees Sarah Palin as a candidate for and about women, is a group of idiots. And if Hillary Clinton really is committed to women and their issues, she would be out there condemning the candidacy of Sarah Palin as the sham that it is.

Posted by: Eileen Potts Dawson | September 20, 2008 5:43 PM

"We find it quite perplexing that NOW has chosen to endorse an all-male ticket after not endorsing recent candidates such as Gov. Bill Clinton, Sen. Al Gore, or Sen. John Kerry," said New Agenda co-founder Amy Siskind in the statement.

___________________________________________

It's not at all perplexing. NOW will not support a woman who does not believe it's okay to kill unborn children by any and all means available, even if they are viable babies.

It's not about equal rights or equal pay. It's about slaughtering the most innocent and their "right" to do so.


Posted by: waterfrontproperty | September 20, 2008 5:43 PM

Say MM, I will bet 1,000 to 1 you are black. Your hatred of comments posted by AsperGirl and others speaks volumns about your hatred of all things white. By the way, all those lies you posted about Palin are pathetic. So sad.

Posted by: Joe M | September 20, 2008 5:43 PM


Do you want a Democrat in the office or not. If not vote for Mctaint and shut up about is already.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 5:43 PM

If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!

Who cares what Hillary wants? It's what WE want that matters.

Who cares what happens to the country with another four years of conservatism?

What does it matter if we keep pouring money into Iraq and let the Taliban get stronger?

The ONLY thing that matters is our love for Hillary! Whether the country Hillary loves survives until 2012 doesn't matter.

Vote for McCain and teach Obama a lesson!

Posted by: Eric | September 20, 2008 5:41 PM

The group has 30 really DUMB women who are looking for attention. It's flat out loco to support someone just because she's a woman. Palin opposes things that will help women. When she was mayor of Wasilla, the city forced raped women to pay for their own rape kits.

Posted by: GrandmaRose | September 20, 2008 5:41 PM

You think you will advance women's rights by voting for Mccain, you need to take a look Mccain's history with women. Palin is a political pawn in a Republican game. He wouldn't have picked her if Hilary was with Obama. He is using Palin, just as he used his current billionaire wife as a pawn for money and status, and his previous suburban wife so he could play the respectable father role while having an affair. Executive or not Palin has receives the consideration from Mccain as his first wife did before he left her and his kids. Mccain is well versed in Republican politics and that means lots of secrets-- combined with his temper and history of treating women as stepping stones; I would be careful thinking you are doing a favor for women by voting for Mccain.

Posted by: Geoge W Bush | September 20, 2008 5:41 PM

yep....I'm voting for "the same parts" ticket - regardless of issues or record!

Posted by: all-american | September 20, 2008 5:41 PM

AsperGal, we see you practicing psychology without a license; no one asked you what you thought. You're not supporting Obama; fine. But shaddup, already with your weak, self-important analysis.

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | September 20, 2008 5:40 PM

Vote for the candidate/party that will advance WOMAN RIGHT'S= OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: ll | September 20, 2008 5:39 PM

Asper Girl- what a silly joke you are.
" I can go to Canada and Mexico..." Why should woman in other countries have more rights than woman here. WE do agree on one thing- WOMEN'S RIGHT will be obliterated by the Republicans
Vote for the ANTI- WOMAN PARTY= Republicans

Posted by: mm | September 20, 2008 5:31 PM


The federal abortion guarantees that Roe v. Wade provides only prevent states from making their own laws. Overturning Roe v. Wade only means that some states would ban abortion and some states would not. This only affects poor, ignorant women who can't travel across state lines to get an abortion if they need one.

The equal-pay law is only for those women who exist on some pay-scale level. I.e. they are for factory workers, and low-level managers at best, not executives and professional experts.

These poor-women issues and factory pay issues aren't really my top agenda priority. Especially coming from a democratic candidate who has so few senior women in his own staff, who went to great lengths to avoid putting Hillary Clinton on his ticket (even jeopardizing the womens' vote) and who has behind-the-scenes engineered much sexism and belittling of executive women this year to kill her candidacy.

The marginal laws and federal laws that ensure abortion is easy for poor women, isn't really my only and top concern as a woman and a feminist.

They are, in fact, far from being even important, much less comprising the universe of female political interest.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:38 PM

This people should drop dead.

Posted by: RobRoy1 | September 20, 2008 5:38 PM

Its clear that these former Clinton supporters are trying to sabotage the Obama campaign. The question is why? are they simply bitter deadenders hoping that Obama will lose because that will give their heroine a chance to come back in 4 years to claim the job to which she feels entitled because she has paid her dues and Obama has not? Or is it based on some notion that a black male candidate is inherently inferior to a white female. regardless they have no basis based on the issues to help the McCain Palin team that seems determined to send the rights of women back to the age of "seperate but equal".

Posted by: Don Mooney | September 20, 2008 5:38 PM

mm:

She is not anti-Palin women.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 5:38 PM

Sarah palin is more qualified to give John mccain a lap dance

Posted by: circus monkey | September 20, 2008 5:36 PM

Sheila:

Gov. Palin is more qualifed than Sen. Obama at starting wars and raise deficits.

Posted by: JerkD | September 20, 2008 5:35 PM

Vote for Obama and you will EFFECTIVELY END Hillary's chance at EVER becoming President!!

Obama has already destroyed Hillary's chances for this time around. He couldn't even do her the honor of making her VP. Don't let him end her
Presidential prospects forever.

Consider this:
If you elect Obama for 2008 , Hillary CAN'T RUN IN 2012!! The incumbent always runs for their party in reelection. This means Barack
Obama, if President, will automatically be the Democratic nominee in 2012.

Hillary would then be 69 YRS OLD when she would get her next chance to run as President in 2016. Then people would simply call her too old(like they do McCain who is 72) and she would NEVER get a chance to become President.

Reagan was 69 when he got elected BUT he wasn't trying to break the glass ceiling at the same time.

So if you care at all about Hillary, you will VOTE AGAINST Obama this time around. Plus, you will break the glass ceiling and Hillary WILL
BE THERE in 2012!!

Think about it!! It makes sense!!

If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Eric | September 20, 2008 5:34 PM

JakeD

You never did answer my question from a few days ago.

It's a good thing the election wasn't held a few days ago. What would happen today?

Posted by: Lance | September 20, 2008 5:34 PM

I think solving the Economy, Islamic Terrorism, and the Energy crisis, might be above the pay grade of a community organizer.

Posted by: Howard | September 20, 2008 5:34 PM

WHY DIDN'T OBAMA JUST PICK HILLARY? WAS IT THE
NARCISSISM OR A MOMMY PROBLEM? (MAYBE BOTH?)

Obama's mother seems to have had at least some traits of a dependent personality disorder, which tends to be a complementary, coincident problem in families in which narcissism occurs. Her adult sexual and marital life was dysfunctional and dependent, in relationships where she was used and discarded.

First, Obama's father got the then-17-year-old Anne pregnant when he was already married with a first wife and child in Kenya, to whom he returned after abandoning his American family. His life story and behavior, including the womanizing, alcoholism and polygamy, has the features of a failed narcissist. Secondly, Obama's mother "married" was an Indonesian man who, also a Muslim, rejected Obama and his mother sent him back to the U.S. while staying with the man in Indonesia herself. Much of Obama's focus in his autobiographies was in his search for a father and an identity. But what does this imply about the impact of his mother's behavior on him?

In the Muslim world, there is a thing such as "temporary marriages". Men can even take "temporary" wives when they already have wives and families. This activity is legal under Sharia law, and the woman aren't respected but they aren't punished. The men usually pay them and the women are usually poor but pretty and have no prospects in life. For an American woman to serve as a "temporary wife" and "second wife" to Third World Muslim men, who don't even give her money and support, but just use the brief marriage without any traditional settlement for her, was the cultural equivalent of her being a valueless, unclean woman. I.e., in a cultural sense, Obama's momma served her Third World Muslim men as an unrespectable pump-and-dump without value. In a cultural sense, in a Muslim community, Obama's mother would be degenerate and the worst kind of "haram" (evil and unclean).

The fact that a couple of these pump-and-dump relationships comprises Obama's mother's adult married life, is bad. Obama's mother was, in my opinion as a Western woman, a sexually desperate loser and a person with some kind of dependent personality disorder. But what does that imply for a kid raised in a Muslim culture for at least part of his childhood, and how he relates to a mother who would have been executed for her behavior if she were not American?

I think that Obama both lacks respect for the white, senior, middle aged woman of his childhood and longs so badly for identity as a man, because in part, of his mother's codependent, "haram" and powerless relationships with her Muslim men. I think that Obama probably has serious mommy issues with older white women having power or influence over him, or dependence on him.

It's unsurprising, for example, that Obama has sought to find a culture and identity in a harsh, black radical Church that cauterizes and rejects corrupt white culture. I think that his finding his identity in that Trinity Church is real, not pretense, just as I don't think it was extraordinarily difficult for him to take the step to repudiate the father figure that Rev. Wright has become in his life.

To be more specific, the narrative of Obama's father in his autobiographies is romanticized and fictionionalized. Obama's mother wasn't taken advantage of by some black man who left her with a child, but she was complicit in a degrading second-wife marriage and was a serial temporary wife to two Third World Muslim men, had kids and were dumped by them. Obama's father was her first such codependent relationship, her first "temporary [Muslim] husband". Instead of how Obama portrayed him, his father was an alcoholic, polygamous, womanizing Kenyan ethnically Arab Muslim (failed) communist who was already married when he got Obama's then-17-year-old mother pregnant. Obama's mother wasn't underprivileged and he wasn't disadvantaged but went to private schools when his grandmother took over his care after his mother sent him back from Indonesia when her second husband, his stepfather, was uninterested in him.

Barack Obama seems to have middle-age white woman problems. His refusal to even consider Hillary Clinton as his VP when it was his most obvious and possibly his only real path to winning the election, speaks of some kind self-defeating, self-sabotaging personal issue.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:32 PM

Asper Girl- what a silly joke you are.
" I can go to Canada and Mexico..." Why should woman in other countries have more rights than woman here. WE do agree on one thing- WOMEN'S RIGHT will be obliterated by the Republicans
Vote for the ANTI- WOMAN PARTY= Republicans

Posted by: mm | September 20, 2008 5:31 PM

"We cannot and will not sit idly by while another qualified candidate goes through what Senator Hillary Clinton had to endure," said Siskind at the end of August.

The media absolutely trashed Clinton unfairly, and it was sexism. But there's a big difference between watching over the media's attacks of a qualified candidate like Clinton, and a complete hack like Palin. Comparing Palin to Clinton because they're both female is like comparing Dixie cup to a Waterford Goblet.

Posted by: Supporting Obama because of Biden | September 20, 2008 5:29 PM

Sheila:

Gov. Palin is more qualifed than Sen. Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 5:29 PM

It's very sad that some women are willing to vote so blindly just because there's a woman on the ticket! You need to focus on which ticket will help women's causes in the future, not just a woman (any woman), as a token candidate to vote for. It's sad when people start looking at our most important election as "Boys vs. Girls". Grow up, this ain't Jr High anymore! Do some studying of the candidates, and decide which are best for you as a woman. Which candidates have helped women's causes in the past, not just because one side has a woman.

Posted by: John | September 20, 2008 5:28 PM

Someone here, probably an Obama supporter, is posting here as me.

I can assure you that had it actually been posted by ME, it would have contained lies, nonsense, drivel, gender bias, and right wing talking points.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:27 PM

Feminism is a bunch of BS to advance pro-abortion propoganda, not pro-choice. All the b!tching right now about Sarah not sharing the same pro-choice views is crap. If women's rights are so important to you why didn't you vote for Sen Clinton? Shut the f@ck up.

Posted by: Dmitriy | September 20, 2008 5:22 PM
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Only an idiot would be so illogical as to argue that NOT giving someone (in this case a woman) a choice in their own lives is REALLY in their own best interest.

So YOU would be dictator? Or Czar?

Posted by: michael4 | September 20, 2008 5:27 PM

Tunes59, nice site for the salaries of Obama senate stff, but can you show where men and women in the same positions with the same qualifications are being paid differently?

Simply saying that more women are paid less isn't proof of anything as mentioned in the boston.com article.

"It is a good article except it failed to give a referance to back up the facts. Here is the site that proves Obama does not give equal pay.

http://www.legistorm.com/member/76/Sen_Barack_Obama.html

Mr. Obama's is two faced."

Posted by: Tunes59 | September 20, 2008 5:08 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 5:26 PM

NOW should rename themselves to "JOKE". They aren't for women if they were they wouldn't be supporting Obama.

Obama Pays Women Only 78 Percent of What He Pays Men
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972

NOW has been masquerading as feminist. Feminist doe not ask women for their Voter ID card.
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2008/09/19/when-misogny-masquerades-as-feminism/

Posted by: TLINTX | September 20, 2008 5:25 PM

Asper Girl- you go girl Vote for the antiwomen woman candidate- the one that believes in overturning Roe V Wade, the one that thinks abstinence sex education works, despite evidence to the contrary, the one that believes creationism should be taught in our schools, the one that thinks that books should be banned.
VIVA ANTI-WOMEN WOMAN Candidate PALIN.
Any woman who thinks women are advanced by voting for Palin are truly delusional.

Posted by: mm | September 20, 2008 5:24 PM

excuse me for my lack of sympathy for a group of bitter sinister woman who unfortunately support the failed stereotype of woman as angry and vindictive.Sarah Palin agrees with none,repeat,NONE,of Sen.Clinton's core positions.Other than gender she provides no basis for support by those who so valiantly supported a very qualified candidate who narrowly lost an issue based campaign.The Mckinney-Clemente ticket is not qualified to govern.An endosement would be cynical and sexist.Ms.Suskind is setting the cause of woman back decades with her intellctual ignorant display of petulance

Posted by: tess malone | September 20, 2008 5:23 PM

30 of em, eh? If true, it merely affirms the theory that they only think with their breasts; and dare call others sexist. Pathetic.

Posted by: michael4 | September 20, 2008 5:23 PM

Feminism is a bunch of BS to advance pro-abortion propoganda, not pro-choice. All the b!tching right now about Sarah not sharing the same pro-choice views is crap. If women's rights are so important to you why didn't you vote for Sen Clinton? Shut the f@ck up.

Posted by: Dmitriy | September 20, 2008 5:22 PM

It doesn't matter what's between their ears, only what's between their legs.
Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:01 PM
(NOT ME, SOME OBAMA BOT POSTING WITH MY NAME)

Anonymous - AsperGirl doesn't think at all. She just gets on here an spews the Republican barking points.
Posted by: ex-conservative | September 20, 2008 4:58 PM

AsperGirl is a liar. Staff women in Obama's campaign are paid the same scale as men.
Aspergirl would sell her mother into slavery if it would erode support for Obama.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:56 PM


The sexually harassing, verbally abusive Obama supporters speaking on this forum today are nowhere near as offensive as they are on their home turn on dailykos. The disrespectful and trashy way the Obama supporters talk about women in their hidden threads on their left-wing blogs is a real eye-opener.

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HERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PALIN LIKE SHE'S A HO

 headline: Palin chges equation Palin = spit take (3+ / 0-)
by henry dribble on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 09:22:26 PM PDT

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ALSO, ACCORDING TO DAILYKOS, PALIN'S A MILK MACHINE

 Palin on the campaign trail (0+ / 0-)
The selection of Sarah Palin as vice-presidential running-mate gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Family Values'. Maybe Sarah can be equipped with a little breast-pump-necklace she can use on the campaign trail when her feeding-modules begin to leak. 
Very shortly, we understand, Trig's nutritional requirements can be fulfilled by sister Bristol, while mommie is out dowsing for votes, but Sarah will still need the pump - - at least until she quits lactating.
by SGaston on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:39:33 AM PDT

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HERE THE GAY PEDOPHILES JOIN THE FRAY

 Drill Baby Drill - Palin Daughter's Boyfriend!!! (0+ / 0-)
Let me drill baby, let me drill! LOL
by PunditHater on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 07:16:12 PM PDT

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THE CONSENSUS ON DAILYKOS NOW IS THAT HILLARY'S PRESENCE IN THE PARTY WILL BE TOLERATED IF SHE BECOMES OBAMA'S ANTI-WOMAN TOOL. (THEY'RE PROMISING TO UNSEAT HER USING THE BLACK VOTE IN NY NEXT TIME SHE GOES UP FOR REELECTION IF OBAMA LOSES).

 Yeah, nothing like a Sarah Palin out there to (16+ / 0-)
make you think Hillary doesn't suck as much as you thought, and we should probably welcome her back into the fold a little, if only to block the Palins of the world.
by voracious on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 09:35:56 PM PDT

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:20 PM

Maybe I am missing something. I keep hearing about the wrong done to Hillary Clinton by the MSM, and maybe because I am a man I don't see it but I still can't figure out what everyone is talking about on the sexism thing. What exactly did the MSM and Obama do?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 5:18 PM

This Democrat calls Governor Palin "disabled":

ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iPOYv8qrqUwMbJfQ487S2_dSyHLwD93A6OC80


What an insult to women and the disabled.

Posted by: Keenan | September 20, 2008 5:16 PM

Imagine the NOW endorsing Obama, and imagine the NAACP endorsing McCain. Equally absurd. Women who vote for Obama don't see the forest for the trees.

Posted by: thecandypoem | September 20, 2008 5:16 PM

The feminists, during the primary season, said we're so liberated we are "freed" from the notion that we should vote for a woman president. This was after passively watching Hillary Clinton be bashed, parodied, belittled and marginalized using sexism instead of more respectful and professional treatment by her opposition. I.e. not only were we "liberated" from feeling we should vote for a woman, but we were so free that we should support a man whose behind-the-scenes media machine promoted sexist memes belittling female executive paradigms.

Now, organizations like NOW claim that it's anti-woman to support a female executive on the national ballot on account of Barack Obama's pro forma support for certain female-friendly laws relevant to low-class, low-earning women.

Maybe I feel so liberated that I don't think my vote should be chained to the the kind of low-class worker wage-earning and federal abortion policies. I can certainly afford to cross a state line if I someday need an abortion that is illegal in my state. I could even go to Canada or Mexico for an abortion, if I needed one and none were available in the U.S. Again, why should I base my vote on the priorities of low-income working women who want a law that makes it easier for them to sue factories for pay equities, and in doing so support a candidate who has done so much damage to executive female leadership paradigms this year?

When it comes to issues, I'm more interested in the advancement of executive women and transformation of party platforms and power structures to be more relevant to women, the majority voting block.

If feminism is so advanced that women don't need to vote for a first female national chief executive when there are so few female executives in our country, then feminism is also so advanced that my vote isn't going to be held hostage by the democrats because they espouse a few laws that provide marginally more wage guarantees for low-class, low-level women workers and promise abortion guarantees for poor women who can't afford to, say, cross a border between 2 states to get an abortion.

The agenda items -- these low-class worker wage guarantees and laws that ensure every state has abortion (for those women who can't afford to cross a state line for an abortion) -- aren't meaningful enough for me personally to dedicate my vote to a party that so marginalizes and undermines the advancement of female executives.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:13 PM

Siskind says "We cannot and will not sit idly by while another qualified candidate goes through what Senator Hillary Clinton had to endure,"
Palin a qualified candidate. Please. This woman has not experienced one percent of the scrutiny Hillary went through.
If Palin were a moderate republican or democrat, conservatives and the media would be screaming about whether this candidate has the kind of values we want in a vice president.
Clintonistas. Get over it. Hillary was a weak candidate. The media did not do her in, it was her sense of entitlement to the presidency and her complete disregard for believing she had to ask voters for their vote. She thought she was going to win Iowa and didn't prepare for anything else.

Posted by: Sheila | September 20, 2008 5:13 PM

"The New Agenda" sounds like a McCain campaign front - like PUMA turned out to be.

Posted by: jhbyer | September 20, 2008 5:11 PM

It is a good article except it failed to give a referance to back up the facts. Here is the site that proves Obama does not give equal pay.

http://www.legistorm.com/member/76/Sen_Barack_Obama.html

Mr. Obama's is two faced.

Posted by: Tunes59 | September 20, 2008 5:08 PM

Who cares if these Hillary fundraisers and PUMAs are now supporting McSame. They don't speak for ME.

Posted by: Kelly | September 20, 2008 5:07 PM

Please Republicans... I know you are angry. Even Rush Limbaugh feels unfairly treated. I have empathy for you-- it is hard holding on to rigid opinions about God, abortion, taxes, and guns. It's hard to see your twice elected cowboy saviors Bush/Cheney revealed for what they have always been. They were the same people even when you voted for them twice so proudly. Now you must argue and cringe and fight for PALIN! mccain? You don't understand-- how can you be losing even if you think you are a winner? You still don't understand what has been lost even if you win. It's best for you to turn on Fox, laugh at the more intelligent candidate, laugh at his hopes, and youthfulness, strip this country of everything that is sacred until all that is left is you and your anger and your geriatric president who promises the same lies you believed last time. Please Republicans... how can you be so sure of your selves when it's clear you are mistaken?

Posted by: George W. Bush | September 20, 2008 5:07 PM

This women's group is not only nonpartisan and nonprofit, but also nonsensical. It seems to be basing its political choices entirely on the presence or absence of vaginas. rather than on the presence or absence of solid commitments to women's rights, in candidates. Shame!

Posted by: angry moderate | September 20, 2008 5:05 PM

Hey, Dave:

How about we stick to the issues and not ad hominem personal attacks? That's what this women's group is trying to do.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 5:05 PM

It doesn't matter what's between their ears, only what's between their legs.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 5:01 PM

So after Lady Rothschild's endorsement there are only about 30 people left who are still sour about Obama winning the Party nomination.

Not bad at all.

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Is this realistic, or is there a new puppy in the room?

And what shall we name this one?

"Blogger?"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 5:00 PM

Amy Siskind needs to get her head out of her butt. A McSame/Palin White House will set back women's rights to the 90's - the 1890's
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Perhaps.

But if you think the democrats are any better, esp given their track record under Bush, you're not being realistic.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:58 PM

Anonymous - AsperGirl doesn't think at all. She just gets on here an spews the Republican barking points.

Posted by: ex-conservative | September 20, 2008 4:58 PM

thinkwithyourbrain - if only you would think with your brain. It actually seems you are thinking with the other end.

Try having an original thought instead of spewing Republicretin propoganda. You might enjoy it.

You know what they call a Republican that thinks for themselves - a Democrat.

Posted by: ex-conservative | September 20, 2008 4:56 PM

AsperGirl is a liar. Staff women in Obama's campaign are paid the same scale as men.

Aspergirl would sell her mother into slavery if it would erode support for Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:56 PM

So after Lady Rothschild's endorsement there are only about 30 people left who are still sour about Obama winning the Party nomination.

Not bad at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:56 PM

Amy Siskind needs to get her head out of her butt. A McSame/Palin White House will set back women's rights to the 90's - the 1890's. NOW's sole agenda is not about getting women into the White House, it is, and should be, about furthering women's rights. How Siskind can think that having those two wing-nuts in the White House will be good for women shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the issues.

Posted by: ex-conservative | September 20, 2008 4:55 PM

I'm very happy to hear that someone is going to hold the MSM's feet to the fire in it's complete failure to report anything negative about Obama and distort anything positive about Palin. The end is coming, The One. First debate is Friday. Be sure to get your ahs, ums, and now looks, ready to go.

Posted by: thinkwithyourbrain | September 20, 2008 4:55 PM

I created a compilation news blog the day Sarah Palin was given the VP nomination ("what exactly is it that the VP does every day?")and my tagline is:

Vote Issues, Not Gender!

http://nosarahpalin.blogspot.com

I am a registered Independent, voting AGAINST the Republican ticket. As a working mother, Sarah Palin does NOT represent me in any way, shape or form.

It is not a stretch to think that this group of 30 women was created by the Republican party solely to create a disturbance...there is no way a THINKING woman would vote for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Kate | September 20, 2008 4:52 PM

Puzzling, perplexing??? Come on ladies. No woman in her right mind would vote for Sarah Palin ticket, who has the most narrow view of not only civil, womens, social rights but life! She has never been exposed to anything but a very rural area. Has no idea about homelessness, crime, housing issues, transportation and commuter issues to list but a few. Not to mention, all of the bail outs for S & L's, Enron, etc., etc., etc. have been during Republican administrations. How is that working for us all? I am an Eskimo woman that will vote Obama / Biden and I suggest the rest of you WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: Willard | September 20, 2008 4:52 PM

Oh, so the ONLY criteria for supporting a ticket is whether or not a famale is on it huh? Doesn't matter if the ticket is FOR women's rights such as equal pay and freedom of choice, it only matters if the right gender is on the ticket.

I bet these were the same Hillary "supporters" who kept complaining about "sexism" too.

Posted by: aBigSAM | September 20, 2008 4:52 PM

Thanks for the link Andrea.

"As governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has championed aerial gunning of wolves and bears. Using powerful images of this needless and brutal practice -- and the indisputable facts about Palin's promotion of it -- we've created a hard-hitting new television ad to educate voters about what Governor Sarah Palin really stands for.

As governor, Sarah Palin...

Proposed paying a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf.

Approved a $400,000 state-funded propaganda campaign to promote aerial hunting.

Introduced legislation to make it even easier to use aircraft to hunt wolves and bears."

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Donation2?idb=0&df_id=1547&1547.donation=form1&s_src=6JY08WDC4F&s_subsrc=6JY08WDC4F_EJI08D1web&JServSessionIdr001=pem1mn8vs1.app26a

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 4:50 PM

If you sincerely care about John McCain encourage him to get better treatment for PTSD disorder...but not as our president.

It's an unfortunate result of being a POW.

Good luck, Senator McCain.


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Yeah, you're right.

That, and creeping senility.

Why do we keep getting candidates of this caliber?

And Palin turns my stomach, too, she's an idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:49 PM

Former Hillary Clinton Advisor and Organizer Hold Conference Call to Endorse John McCain


Today, McCain-Palin 2008 released a partial transcript of a conference call held this afternoon with Miguel D. Lausell, Senior Political Advisor to Hillary Clinton, and Clinton Delegate-at- Large Luchy Secaira (Florida). Both Lausell and Secaira endorsed John McCain for president.

Here are excerpts from the conference call:
Luchy Secaira: “I was a very strong Hillary Clinton supporter because she had a set of principles, characteristics, and her stand on the issues along with a track record of fighting on behalf of families. That was very attractive to me.

“Well, we now know that the primaries are over. However, those qualities are not transferable. I do not believe that Senator Obama shares in those qualities. Therefore, my support and my vote is also non-transferable.

“I am supporting John McCain and Governor Palin because John McCain has spent his whole life standing up for his country. He has a record of fairness, compassion, responsibility, and giving back.

“Governor Palin is a woman of compassion and accomplishment in the mold of Senator Clinton. So I have chosen to put my country before my party and this is the ticket to support.

“They both care deeply about working families. They are reformers. They will go to Washington and they will remember who sent them there. So country before party, and that is why I’m supporting John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin. …

“And you know the Hispanic community knows John McCain. They know him. They know that he has a record. They know that has gone up against his own party on behalf of the Hispanic community.”

Miguel D. Lausell: “I decided, after searching my conscience, to back Senator McCain for many reasons. He is a man of great experience. He’s a sound man. He’s a man that you know what you’re getting when you vote for him.

“And the country is in very difficult situation and needs a man that can decide on difficult matters and has the experience and the soundness to help the struggle to get through these bad times.
“I cannot say the same about Senator Obama. We don’t know what we’re getting when we vote for him. He doesn’t really have the experience.”

Both Secaira and Lausell were asked about Obama’s recent ad linking McCain to Limbaugh. Here is that ad:
Secaira and Lausell responded to the ad, this is what they had to say:

Secaira: “There goes the new politics. I don’t see anything new about put-down politics. And once again, I want to reiterate that the Hispanic community has nothing to fear because they know John McCain.

“Again, he has fought against his own party on behalf of the Hispanic community and was an integral part in trying to bring forth comprehensive immigration reform. The Hispanic community knows John McCain in his home state, in New Mexico. They know what John McCain plans for.

And I don’t believe that they will be easily fooled by this misleading and disgraceful ad.”

Lausell: “It’s a very low blow on the part of the Obama campaign because it’s completely untrue and completely relates Senator McCain to something he’s not related to.

“It denies, basically, the basic premise of all of his actions. And, frankly, if you have a candidate that is willing to go so low, what can you expect if you elect him to office?”

Towards the end of the call both had this to offer, Obama is the great divider, not the great uniter.

Posted by: Donna | September 20, 2008 4:48 PM

If you sincerely care about John McCain encourage him to get better treatment for PTSD disorder...but not as our president.

It's an unfortunate result of being a POW.

Good luck, Senator McCain.


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PTSD?

I would even say creeping senility.

Why are we getting cadidates of this caliber?

And Palin turns my stomach, too.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:47 PM

LIPSTICK VS LIP SERVICE -- HOW MCCAIN, OBAMA PAY WOMEN

:::: Obama's women earn only 0.83/dollar compared to his men ::::
:::: McCain's women earn $1.04/dollar compared to his men ::::

How Team Obama Pays Women
By Deroy Murdock

‘Now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day’s work,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said August 28 in his convention acceptance speech. He told the crowd in Denver: “I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.”...

Obama’s commitment to federally mandated pay equity ... seems to have eluded his United States Senate office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that Obama pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.

...Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397. Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.

Why this disparity? One reason may be the underrepresentation of women among Obama’s highest-compensated employees. Of Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.

On average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign website condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1. In spite of this 17-cent gap between Obama’s rhetoric and reality, he chose to chide GOP presidential contender John McCain on this issue.

...McCain’s payment patterns are the stuff of feminist dreams.

McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.

On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, ceteris paribus, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.

more at: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmEzMTZmNTk5MDI0NTZmNjUwMjllN2ZlZTc0MWFmYzY=

OBAMA'S FEMALES STAFF MOSTLY LOWEST POSITIONS
MCCAIN HAS MANY SENIOR FEMALE STAFF ON BOARD

MCCAIN PUT PALIN ON HIS TICKET, SHE CAN MAKE HISTORY
OBAMA WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO KEEP HILLARY OFF HIS

MCCAIN = LIPSTICK
OBAMA = LIP SERVICE

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 4:47 PM

If you sincerely care about John McCain encourage him to get better treatment for PTSD disorder...but not as our president.

It's an unfortunate result of being a POW.

Good luck, Senator McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:45 PM

Andrea:

Lynn Forester was indeed a serious Clinton supporter. Just ask Hillary ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 4:45 PM

The republicans have SUCH money worries, I surly hope they don't get distracted with the SOS, because you know, the deficit never sleeps.

These things never go away, you only think they do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:45 PM

Please watch the Palin video created by Defenders of Wildlife. Palin turns my stomach!

http://www.defendersactionfund.org/

Pass it on!!

Posted by: Andrea | September 20, 2008 4:45 PM

JakeD,

Man you need to seek serious professional help. It's quite obvious you have an obsession with Palin which is more than just healthy support and interest. Try to reason with your big brain and not the little one. Seek help JakeD!

Posted by: Dave | September 20, 2008 4:43 PM

I am sure women and the Democratic party will survive without, "The New Agenda" endorsement.
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Have you taken an honest look at the democratic party lately?

I mean, I'm sorry, but there is a whole world outside the bloggers, and the beltway, and I'm not speaking of Peoria.

Look at some of the "new wave" democrats, speaking of revoking Roe V Wade?

WTF?

Posted by: plastic finger, foam finger | September 20, 2008 4:43 PM

This is obviously hitting very close to home for some of you. I always had a great disrespect for feminists, but then I began to study their literature. I found that many of them had good points and were very intelligent. The support of Sarah Palin by feminists is a disgrace to feminists everywhere. The point of feminism is not to have one woman in the white house (as a puppet of any president to boost female enthusiasm), it is to further the rights of women in this nation, something Palin has no interest in whatsoever.
Truthfully, I have lost nearly all respect that I had gained for feminists, you sold out on your philosophy. You are so desperate for any kind of women in the white house you have lain your entire meaning and worth to society as freedom-fighters on the ground. You have given in to a political joke meant to coerce "stupid women" into following the campaign with the most breasts involved. When John McCain picked a woman for vice president, my first thought was that women all over the nation would be incensed that this man might really think you were that stupid. But, like a beaten woman, the majority of feminists bowed to their masters, and accepted the meager scraps in stead of a victory for their cause. The day that feminists cast their vote for Sarah Palin is the day that feminism will officially be dead.

Posted by: H | September 20, 2008 4:41 PM

As a nonpartisan group, The New Agenda should not have issued a news release criticizing NOW for its endorsement of Obama. It should have used the endorsement as an opportunity to discuss its goals.

That being said, I fully support and agree with NOW's endorsement. NOW did a good job of presenting the reasons for the endorsement in its news release (http://www.now.org/press/09-08/09-16.html) as well as NOW President’s 9-18-08 column (http://www.now.org/news/note/091808.html).

The following quote is from the column: “Being a strong woman doesn’t necessarily make you strong on women’s rights.”

Posted by: heartprivacy | September 20, 2008 4:39 PM

Bravo NOW!!! Any Woman that would vote for Hillary and can stomach voting for Palin were not serious Hillary supporters and should get out of the womens movement. They do more damage than good! Sarah Palin does NOT support ANY women's issues. She is against equal pay for equal work, does not support rape victims, and promotes violence via extremely cruel hunting practices!! She is a cruel horrible woman who hides behind lip gloss. Vote issues, not lipstick!

Posted by: Andrea | September 20, 2008 4:38 PM

Think!

Yes.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 4:38 PM

I am sure women and the Democratic party will survive without, "The New Agenda" endorsement.

Posted by: Debranne | September 20, 2008 4:37 PM

Dearest DCAttorney, I will get right on that letter. There is no one I'd rather have in the White House during these times of financial crisis than an ill-informed, inexperienced, pistol-packing former small-town mayor who racked up a s-load of debt, then high-tailed it out of town leaving the local government millions of dollars in the red. Really inspires confidence in me. Perhaps she could serve a dual role, as vp and head of the s.e.c. but not the f.e.c :) or maybe that too.

Posted by: northernexposure | September 20, 2008 4:36 PM

"Before you vote McCain/Palin ... ask yourself this sincere question:

Would the little boy or girl that you were ... be proud of the man or woman that you are?"

would i be proud that the older me is voting for a national hero, a man who paid with his health and almost his life for my freedom? a man who's dedicated his whole life to making my life better, to public service? would i proud that i'm voting for a woman who build a big happy family, and a successful career at the same time?
i would be, that's why I'M VOTING MCCAIN/PALIN
on the other hand, i wouldn't be proud to vote for a man that has spend his time in office on promoting his celebrity status while taking tax payers money to pay his bills.

Posted by: steven | September 20, 2008 4:35 PM

The Congressional democrats promised to end the war in 2006, holding Bush accountable - a lie, from the start, they had no such intention of stopping the war.

They've recently introduced legislation for off shore drilling, and the passage of FISA was done strategically, a type of good cop, bad cop, all the time knowing they were bending over for business, LYING. And they will do the same with this business "bailout."

I just cannot convey how revolting I find Pelosi, CHENEY is a POS, but we KNOW he's an upfront POS, the democrats, well, they tell the people one thing, and turn around and do Cheney things.

So, really what difference does it make, the democrats are taking us the same place, only at a slower pace.

I think the Clintons were more upfront, anyone who tells themselves Obama is different is lying to himself, and to the people. He is just another Bush, another business stooge.

But I still think Biden is the smartest of the four candidates, and well, I wish Feingold hadn't compromised.

Would the democrats fight the war more intelligently?

Does this financial crisis make a difference?

Or will they be led around by the neck, like Cheney, and his tools o' fools?

Kinda see, MOses?

And Obama's stategy was laughable.

McCain is spanking him, the democrats a day late and a dollar short, again, Lucy pulled the football, again, and still, the ops missed it.

But who knows...

Posted by: plastic finnger, foam finger | September 20, 2008 4:34 PM

Why would any woman vote for the Republicans - the party of rich, white males? Just because they've found a female puppet for their conservative agenda doesn't mean they'll protect women's rights. They're simply using a woman who has sold her soul in the name of ambition.

Women who truly believe in equal rights (and Democratic values) won't vote against their own interests just because the opposing party puts a woman on the ticket. Now THAT would be sexist.

Posted by: Barbara Campbell | September 20, 2008 4:34 PM

Do you know any women that get married and say he will change or I will change him? I tell them if you see thing that you do not like, now is the time to go your way, but some don't listen . I took my wife car shopping she fell in love with a SUV. Tried to point out the low fuel efficiency too no a vile. now she see what I was talking about that gas price has skyrocketed. I'm just pointing out that devil is in the details, and don't close your mind to what your eyes see.

Posted by: Erv | September 20, 2008 4:34 PM

I would never sign a post as an "attorney.

They are the root of all problems ... in all walks of life.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:33 PM

this shows NOW is populated by smart women and they endorse women ONLY if/when they are qualify. why would any intelligent woman endorse Palin for VP who could possibly become president, when she believes in creationism, when she's anti-choice, when she only converted to be a believer in global warming (which McCain does believe in, like both Biden and Obama),,, this woman is NOT qualify to be VP or president.

NOW should not support just any woman! The New Agenda's argument, therefore, is not credible...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:32 PM

Lisa:

Hillary Clinton wouldn't be a Senator from New York if it weren't for who she married. As for Sir Evelyn Robert de Rothschild, I believe he was nobility by birth -- not "knighted" -- regardless, his wife is making the comment, not him. She is a self-made millionaire who only married him in 2000. Did you know she was on the DNC Platform Committee?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 4:31 PM

So now the excuse is not that Palin fired Monegan for taking an unauthorized
trip to Washington, D.C.; it was his reason for taking the trip. The "last
straw" was that the Alaska Public Safety Commisioner went to seek funding
for an "agressive anti-sexual-violence program" for Alaska, "which leads the
nation in reported forcible rape."

"When you receive permission to travel, it does not mean that you receive
blanket authorization to discuss or do whatever you would like on that
trip," [Randy Ruaro, a Palin aide] added.

I wonder what would have been an okay reason for approving the trip in the
first place? This woman isn't for women. NOW has it right

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1

Posted by: Peahen | September 20, 2008 4:31 PM

these "traditional" feminists are terrified and infuriated by sarah, because she dares to be intelligent, driven, ambitious, AND PRETTY. that's not allowed, you've got to look like a dog to be "one of them". sarah also has a nerve to have a huge family, be openly religious, pro-life, love her husband and win political office. it's a complement to sarah and all of us who support her that NOW is not behind her!

Posted by: monica | September 20, 2008 4:30 PM

As a woman in Northern Virginia who has in the past been a member of VA NOW, I am greatly discouraged by the national organization’s endorsement of Senator Obama.

DCAttorney

http://DCAttorney.wordpress.com

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 4:08 PM


NOW Is an empty organization. I donated in the past, but the scales fell from my eyes long ago. The NOW people -- and I'm only familiar with their legal activism -- only care about advancing themselves, pro forma institutional and legalistic measures of equality (like black letter laws), but they don't care about actual advancement of women. And they don't care about women themselves.

If you want to see how effective these women are, look at academia. Of all professional spheres and sectors, academia is the least equal, most patronizing, least integrated and most gothically backward in terms of female professor leadership and empowerment.

These ivory tower liberals are unable to help themselves, much less advance their gender as a whole.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 4:28 PM

Before you vote McCain/Palin ... ask yourself this sincere question:

Would the little boy or girl that you were ... be proud of the man or woman that you are?

Obama/Biden

Posted by: Think! | September 20, 2008 4:27 PM

it's very interesting to me that these women get disrespected for voting for a woman, and yet we have 97% of blacks in this country voting for Obama. so it is okay to vote for someone because he's the same race as you, but not if they're the same gender? if you're calling these women stupid, you're calling all the african-americans a bunch of morons!
but go figures, democrats are a bunch of phonies and this is just another prove.

Posted by: peter | September 20, 2008 4:26 PM

More astroturf.

Significant numbers of these women don't exist except in some PR flacks diseased mind.

Posted by: Knutton | September 20, 2008 4:25 PM

Re: "Anything to back up that statement?

As I said, I saw that de Rothschild woman on TV, and all she did was bash Obama. It sounded personal, even though she admits she's never met Obama. She didn't even discus his policies. She also called average voters "rednecks."

These people are full of it, and they know that if Obama wins, they will haver to pay their fair share of taxes like the rest of us, and not get bailed out by the fed. That's what they're afraid of.

So this fake feminist group can get lost.

Posted by: Susan | September 20, 2008 4:25 PM

Hillary goes POOF! at http://www.boppoll.com.

Obama '08

Posted by: Hillary goes POOF! | September 20, 2008 4:24 PM

>>The New Agenda represents the coming together of more than 30 prominent Clinton supporters


30

Three-oh



Folks!!!! Think of the absurdity of this!


I can find 30 women who believe Bigfoot walks around in Oregon.


I can find 30 women who believe Elvis walks the streets of Memphis.


What we found here is 30 women who know how to hire a publicist, write a press release and how to get news outlets starved for 24/7 copy to publish it.


VOTE FOR PALIN BECAUSE SHE HAS FALLOPIAN TUBES!!!!


Jeez...

Posted by: kiernanje | September 20, 2008 4:24 PM

dcattorney:

Sen. Biden may be as "pro-life" personally as Gov. Palin, but we both know which one wants to see abortion banned.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 4:22 PM

yeah, mccain will have more women in his cabinet - as cleaning ladies.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:22 PM

Obama is a liberal.... he by nature and political bent is pro women.....a friend to NOW........Palin is a conservative....an extreme conservative......biblically conservative....not a friend to NOW, an avowed enemy.... wake up , dare I say, ladies....

Posted by: seakeys | September 20, 2008 4:22 PM

just goes to show you that this organization has nothing to do with women's rights, it's simply a leg of a political party - the democratic party.
john mccain has women working for him in his campaign on all levels, including his spokeswomen, economic advisors, and now a running mate. all that barack obama does is underpay his women employees who only work in the lowest levels of his campaign.

make the right choice, MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: eve | September 20, 2008 4:21 PM

Vote with your brain, not your uterus.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 1:58 PM
:::::::

You know, the skin is an organ, too.

Why should I vote the color of your skin, instead of the state of my uterus?

As far as organs go, my uterus is a more meaningful one for me to base my vote on than your skin is.

If you wanted this to be something other than an identity politics election year, you could have nominated a candidate who had compelling arguments for his candidacy other than the fact of his skin color and the fact that he has a "d" in his ticket instead of an "r".

The "I'm a democrat" and "he's a Republican" argument is a powerful one this year and it may carry Obama over the top. But for centrists, that's not a really powerful argument.

Again, as far as basing votes on organs go, my uterus is a more meaningful one for me to base my vote on than the color of your skin is.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 4:21 PM

Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschilde calling ANYONE an elitist??? HILARIOUS!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:19 PM


I will never understand... how a woman can vote for McCain...simply because Hillary did not win.

Hillary was a tough competitor. But Obama managed his campaign better.

If you are a mother, now is the time to lead by example. Show your children love not hate.

Posted by: Think! | September 20, 2008 4:15 PM

I too am a former Hillary Supporter who is a woman and I am voting for Barack. I agree with what Susan said above. Lynn de Rothschild has alot of nerve calling Barack an "Eliteist" if she has never met him. She is married to a man who was Knighted by the British Govt, wow, how elitest is that, lol. This country got rid of titles how many years ago. I love how McCain is promising to have more women in his cabinet, oh please, if he wins, he will forget those promises. What about his votes against equal pay for women? Yeah, nice guy he is. I want a women in WH or VP as much as the next woman, but I refuse to vote for a woman, Palin, just cause she is female. She is against everything I stand for. And it's not 18 million voices, the majority of HRC supporters have moved to Barack, the puma's need to change their slogan.

Posted by: Lisa | September 20, 2008 4:14 PM

"Another qualified woman..."

To even whisper Palin and Clinton in the same breath discredits this group's message.

Posted by: James | September 20, 2008 4:13 PM

So because Obama didn't pick Hillary or Kathleen Sibelius you are voting for McCain?

Thanks for such an informed vote based on the issues and the future, you really need to take off those moose colored glasses.

"Sarah Palin is a wonderful inspiration to all woman of the world. The lost minority representing the women of NOW don't get it. The women of NOW, it is time you toke your power back from these misguided/lost souls. Obama picked Biden instead of Hilary Clinton or the Governor of Kansas. Both these women are better qualified than Biden. PLEASE WAKE UP!"

Posted by: RN | September 20, 2008 3:49 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 4:12 PM

Andrew:

Do you REALLY think that Lynn "DNC Platform Member" de Rothschild is party of Rush Limbaugh's Operation?!

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 4:11 PM

The people in these groups are not just women, there are men too, firing them up, and they are not Democrats - anything but!

In July my sister and I attended a PUMA gathering and we heard more Republican platitudes, Limbaugh sound bites and Obama bashing than anything else. It was really strange. These same people were all fired up over the new group, New Agenda. I think these people are part of the Republican movement that is trying to bring down Barack Obama. Sure seems like it to me.

Posted by: Amie | September 20, 2008 4:11 PM

Here is my letter to VA NOW and I encourage other NOW members/former members to write to your local/State branch of NOW and ask it to reject National NOW's endorsement.

To Virginia NOW:

As a woman in Northern Virginia who has in the past been a member of VA NOW, I am greatly discouraged by the national organization’s endorsement of Senator Obama.

National NOW takes issue with Governor Palin as VP, yet the ticket it now endorses has at the top a man who clearly utilized misogyny to win the nomination, and as VP a man who is as “pro-life” as Governor Palin and who presided over the horrible Anita Hill hearings.

I have been a supporter of NOW since its beginning and as a teenager fought for the ERA. I have been a solid Democratic supporter and activist for 20+ years. It is now obvious that we MUST embrace progressive, moderate AND conservative women in public office. The sexism displayed by the mainstream media, and unfortunately condoned by the Democratic Party in this election cycle, can only be eradicated with numbers; we MUST have more women of all political persuasions in office, not just those we personally agree with.

Further, National NOW had the opportunity to endorse two tickets that include women: McCain/Palin or McKinney/Clemente.

Never has it been more important for the feminist movement that I have cherished since I was a young girl, to be inclusive of all women. I strongly urge Virginia NOW to take a different path - publicly reject National NOW’s endorsement, and either remain neutral in this election OR endorse a ticket with a woman (or two) on it.

Cordially,

DCAttorney

http://DCAttorney.wordpress.com

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 4:08 PM

Palin is a Masculinist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism

She doesn't have women's interests in mind, only her own!

Posted by: barbara | September 20, 2008 3:17 PM

Democratic left-wing feminists are sexually castrated as women. This is why they are afraid of sensually empowered woman like Sarah Palin. If you really look at their theoretical writings, they argue that they must have abortion because babies and sex are used to subjucate and oppress women. The physical, psychological and personal challenges of motherhood, to these women, are a form of nature's oppression of women that men exploit to subjucate them. For them, freedom is a sexually infertile one, where they exist free from the fear of being inflicted with children and punished with babies.

These women believe that they are sexually free, because they feel that they are free to have sex without fear of babies. In a fully functional sense, though, they enjoy their sex lives on a sterile sexual level. I.e. there is a peculiar sexual impotence in the infertile, baby-fearing, self-centered sexual posturing of liberal feminists. While it's inaccurate to say that they are anti-motherhood, it's fair to say that they condescend toward women who accept babies as a fact of life.

For them, the notion that a woman can be a fully realized woman without living, if not a sexually active but sterile sensual life, a life in which she manages her uterus so that she can parse out her motherhood to her convenience, is a contradiction.

The fact that so many women ignore these feminists and feminism is largely viewed as sterile, shrill and marginal, if not personally distorted, does nothing to deter the liberal feminists from their radical, perverse views of personal sexuality of women and what comprises "liberation" and "subjucation".

The appearance of a natural woman like Sarah Palin on the stage, looking like a fully realized, sensually enlivened, mother-figure executive, reduces the sexually impotent, personally distorted liberal feminists to something that is a female version of penis envy. They become livid and their heads can explode in an incandescent hatred that is, at its most profound level, a sexually impotent jealousy of the fertile, mature sexuality of the empowered Sarah Palin.

The liberal feminists have been unsuccessful at paving the way into the top executive classes and have no true agenda-shaping, power-defining leadership within their own party (unless they are serving one flagship male faction or another) because they have no true leadership power within themselves due to their implicit fundamental sexual impotence. The real paradigms of power for top executive males are those of "fatherhood" -- in the bonding that leads us to bond with the top leader so that we project our self-interest onto them via the implicit trust that a father figure inspires.

By fearing and rejecting motherhood, the liberal feminists always have to concoct some peculiar female leadership narrative that doesn't really wash or wear true, like some caricatured costume that doesn't come off as convincing and always leads one wondering what perverse, narcissistic ambition is driving the woman to want to control everyone. The motherhood paradigm is the fundamental true paradigm of female executive leadership throughout human history, as is the fatherhood paradigm the fundamental true paradigm of male top executive.

The liberal feminists, by rejecting motherhood and posturing as asexual or controlled-fertility creatures, thus have never been able to produce a convincing set of female top executive memes. Instead we have many variations on Cruella de Ville with her 101 dalmations lurking around our imaginations every time one of those distorted, "liberated" women lurch into the room demanding to be queen of the hill.

Sarah Palin, standing on that stage that was overflowing with her children and John McCain's, stood as a powerfully credible female mother-as-executive figure that suddenly leaped across history as if from the mist of time back when mother earth worship was still in vogue, and female leaders were honored before the rise of Christian Judeo religions across Europe.

Sarah Palin would not only break some nominal glass ceiling if elected, she would single-handedly bring onto the national stage a motherhood-as-benign-inspired-power-figure paradigm of female executive power that is antithetical and alien to the sexually impotent, sterile power figure personas of liberal feminism. Sarah Palin not only is an argument against the implicit and explicit liberal feminist beliefs that women have to be free from the oppression and subjucation of babies to become fully realized, she is the real deal in inspired female power. Her example and mother-grounded leadership persona is the executive female paradigm that liberal feminists, failing about for ways to approach the glass ceiling, can't produce from their anti-fertility, anti-motherhood, sexually impotent selves.

The democratic liberal feminists therefore, when they see Sarah Palin, therefore experience a my-head-will-explode fury. They hate her, because of their implicit, repressed sexual jealousy of her, and the recognition that

fertility = motherhood = female inspired power

is the recipe down through human history that underpins female executive power.

And they are incapable of it, personally, in their own sexually hollow existences.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 4:07 PM

First off, I don't agree with Frank voting for Obama because he wants to see a black president in the White House. I also don't agree with women, or men, voting for a candidate based on the candidate's sex. Barack Obama was not sexist during the primaries, and has not shown to be sexist at any time during his run for office; I watched the primaries just like the rest of the political junkies. While some people who posted on blogs, called radio stations, or were interviewed on TV may have been sexist, that doesn't make Obama sexist. Labeling Obama as a sexist is disingenuous. My experience during this election is that people bring up the sexism argument as a scapegoat for not having a valid rebuttal in a debate.

Posted by: David | September 20, 2008 4:07 PM

"Please explain how you know that these women don't care about women."

because, they would support a candidate who is AGAINST women's rights, just because she is a woman. Palin votes against women's rights.

Posted by: Mike D. | September 20, 2008 4:06 PM

NOW is smart ... to use their head...not their heart.

OBama/Biden

Posted by: Think! | September 20, 2008 4:05 PM

laSerenissima2003 -

You seem very down on Palin.

Can you name one thing that Obama has accomplished in elected office? If not, it seems that you are the one "blindly" following a candidate that you know nothing about.

Posted by: Bob Moses | September 20, 2008 4:03 PM

"This New Agenda group doesn't care about women. They just hate Obama and they're trying to call it "feminism.""

Anything to back up that statement? Or are you one of those "no real woman would vote for McCain" types?

Please explain how you know that these women don't care about women.

Posted by: rmorrow | September 20, 2008 4:01 PM

Amy Siskind thinks Palin is qualified? Qualified for what? She couldn't even run itty bitty Wasilla - she had to hire a city manager (for a town of 6,000?)and even then she managed to run up a deficit.

Siskind and her New Agenda sisters do American women no favors by blindly supporting a candidate, just because she's a woman. There is far too much at stake in this election for any woman who really cares about her sisters and her country to do anything but vote for the Democratic ticket. Siphoning off votes from the ticket to give to some quixotic third party ticket will assure the election of McCain/Palin and that would spell disaster, not only for American women, women around the world -he's against equal pay for equal work and her views on women's reproductive rights are so backwards that she'd take us back to the days of coat hangers and dark alleys.

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | September 20, 2008 4:00 PM

Remember...

NOW spelled backwards is WON!

Which NOW will do, by backing the winner!

Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Think! | September 20, 2008 3:59 PM

History really is his story in Massachusetts.

The Massachusetts delegation, headed by Kennedy/Kerry and all democratic ( except a lone repub) has been all male for decades.

Only one woman, Margaret Heckler ran and won on the republican ticket sometime in the 70s.

The senators and reps from Massachusetts are quite closed minded when it comes to sharing political power with women.

Perhaps tht is why they like Obama so much.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | September 20, 2008 3:59 PM

I voted for Hillary in the primary, and now I will vote for Obama.

This New Agenda group doesn't care about women. They just hate Obama and they're trying to call it "feminism."

And I saw that Lynn de Rothschild woman on TV, and comes off as totally creepy. She said that Obama was an "elitist." Then she admitted that she's never even met Obama. Give me a break. She's married to a Rothschild, and she arrogantly thinks that she speaks for all women.

They just don't want to pay taxes or be held financially accountable for anything, and that's why they want McCain.

Posted by: Susan | September 20, 2008 3:59 PM

nowanna, sorry, but that is apples vs. oranges. You cite to the Gallup hypothetical congressional district poll that shows overall that women support dems. Most PUMAs that I know are supporting downticket (in their district) Dems. Obama has not assisted these candidates,either since by not accepting federal funds in the general, he's dried up downticket dem donations. Many PUMA sites are actively soliciting $$$ for these downticket dems in local races.

The polls I've seen show that between 17 and 30% of HRC voters (not just women) do not support Obama. The last poll I saw (before the Rep convention) was 76% or HRC voters for Obama, 18% McCain, the rest on the fence. Although the polls do show overall support by women for Obama is still greater than that for McCain (and this lead got slimmer after putting Palin on the ballot), Obama needs to get a much larger bloc of women voters to win. 18% of 18 million votes, I believe, may be the deciding factor in this election, and many of those voters will be women.

Thus, I believe Obama is hurt by the HRC voters who won't transition to him. He was very sure he'd get our votes - said so - but didn't close the deal for a significant minority of us. The convention and phoney roll call vote - denying a true delegate count for HRC's historic candidicy, was the last straw for many of us. Personally as a disappointed maxxed out HRC supporter who has voted Dem in every presidential election, he could have had my vote - up to then.

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 3:58 PM

ABOUT THOSE "HILLARY WOMEN FOR MCCAIN"

Some news outlets, like this one, slyly mislead readers by omitting the details of the "Hillary Women for Clinton" groups like The New Agenda.

Let me fill you in:

Early this year, Rush Limbaugh announced a ploy to disrupt the Democratic primaries, called Operation Chaos. He told his "dittoheads" [Rush fans] to go register as Democrats and vote for Hillary Clinton in an attempt to thwart Obama. Thousands of rightwing radicals and bigots did just that. This is why you see so-called "Hillary Women for McCain". They are racist Republicans in wolves clothing.

They insist on continuing the scam even though they have been thoroughly exposed in the press. Is it stubborness or just blind stupidity? You decide.

Here's a link to info on Operation Chaos. There are many if you Google it, but I just picked one randomly to use here:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/wtf-rush-limbaugh-taking-opera.php

Posted by: Andrew | September 20, 2008 3:57 PM

hey feminism needs to be reinvented. Its not gonna comme from Clinton or Palin or these groups. They will only ridicule and burry it and use it for their purposes no matter what (and women will NOT profit from it). Heck maybe we need a man to reinvent it

Posted by: Doktor | September 20, 2008 3:55 PM

Isn't it obvious? NOW is the "National Organization of Women who put abortion rights above any other matter and refuse to accept the right of a woman to feel differently."

Posted by: lei | September 20, 2008 3:49 PM

Sarah Palin is a wonderful inspiration to all woman of the world. The lost minority representing the women of NOW don't get it. The women of NOW, it is time you toke your power back from these misguided/lost souls. Obama picked Biden instead of Hilary Clinton or the Governor of Kansas. Both these women are better qualified than Biden. PLEASE WAKE UP!

Posted by: RN | September 20, 2008 3:49 PM

Anyone who endorses Sarah Palin belongs to our Grandma's generation. Palin is a shame in the name of a woman. Anybody supporting Palin are obviously extremely STUPID, exactly the kind of people this country cannot afford to put on a leader's seat as we have done in the past two elections.

GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: SF | September 20, 2008 3:48 PM

Who are these 30 women? It might help the reader to know what motivates this group -- clearly not the Supreme Court, or humane treatment of rape victims, or equal pay for equal work.

Posted by: Helen | September 20, 2008 3:48 PM


NOW has marginal pwer to endorse anyone. Thye are not viewed by te majority of women as representing anyone except themselves.

They focused on abortion to the exclusion of safe and effective birth control and reproductive education for all.

They had absolutely nothing to say to the black caucus at any time in the last 4 decades about the high unintended births
especially among teenagers.


what exactly did NOW every do for women?

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | September 20, 2008 3:47 PM

Go figure: a group (The New Agenda) whose focus is to promote an anti-sexism agenda is promoting exactly that - sexism - by voting by gender and not issues. Any Hillary backer that could switch to McCain clearly has no grasp of the issues Clinton stood for. Their views are simply clouded by their own (female) sexist agenda

Posted by: Soon | September 20, 2008 3:45 PM

Feminism like women voters as a group, is a diverse thing, it isn't one thing no matter what one group says over another.

There is such a thing as conservative feminism, and even feminism that could be a step back, it depends on your path to it.

I think NOW made a bold statement that opened up the feminism debate to its proper place within gender politics overall. Mere anatomy has no real special status in gender politics on its own, and I think NOW said what many people we're thinking, that we're not looking for a category to be elected, but someone who is a woman AND whose ideas reflect the best of the intellectual tradition NOW embodies.

Good for them.

Posted by: Iowa grant | September 20, 2008 3:45 PM

Through the years Republicans have fought against anything that is good for women, children, families, minorities, and unions. Actually when you are against trade unions you are really against all labor because it is a known fact that when unions fight for something and win it eventually crosses over to non-union workers as well.

Unions fought for many things that we take for granted today such as the eight hour day, the forty hour week, the weekend, vacations (then paid vacations), retirement , pensions & other forms of retirement funding, and health insurance.

I am sure that there are many others, but this will give you an idea of what Republicans are against. Oh, and don't even get me started on civil rights, they have been wrong headed every step of the way.

Posted by: RW | September 20, 2008 3:42 PM

I like what Hillary does at http://www.boppoll.com. She had her moment, now she needs to go away.

Team Obama!

Get 10 friends to bop McCain and we can add 600 bops per minute.

Obama '08

Posted by: Hillary goes POOF! | September 20, 2008 3:41 PM

Sarah Palin is a shill being used as a prop for the failing presidential campaign of an elderly man who is incapable of running a campaign. No one wants to hear the boring, pointless speeches of McCain.

McCain is using Palin for his own aggrandizement. She is not
a serious candidate... She is a joke!!!!!

Posted by: janye | September 20, 2008 3:40 PM

I've changed my registration to Independent and will vote for Green Party candidates Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente.

The Democratic party has and is putting on the biggest show of male chauvinism that anyone has seen since before the 1960s.

In 2008, the Democratic party has clearly lost touch with America. The Republicans can help them out there as they have been out of touch since Lincoln freed the slaves in 1863.

Vote Green in 2008 and Hillary in 2012

Posted by: pissoffwapo | September 20, 2008 3:38 PM

this is so sad= women claiming to vote for McCain because he has a woman on the ticket- ladies can't you see you are being used just like Palin= McCain has no respect for women-- my goodness he joked about a women getting raped and liking it-- he does not think you should get equal pay and with his confused self there is a posibility that the woman in the white house will fight to take away your rights - women please vote with your mind and not your heart cause you only want a woman in the house and some of you just don't want to vote for a Black man even though he will do the best for you.. there I said it--- ladies be truthful you don't want to vote for Barack because he is BLack and you are quicker to hold him accountable for everything and defend Palin for everything-- this willbe a sad day for AMerican women if McCain/Palin wins- maybe that is why they did not want women to be able to vote-- If I hear one more woman say she voting for McCain because Palin is so energizing, or because I can relate to her (how you don't know her) I willjust scream-- Vote the best candidate and if you were backing Hillary then why the Hell would you back McCain now-- remember he only laughed when another female called Hillary the B word..women do some research and think

Posted by: I count | September 20, 2008 3:38 PM

30 women that nobody ever heard of...

One RNC front group, spreading its distractions...

One press release...

One sucker of a journalist.

Posted by: fred | September 20, 2008 3:33 PM

Thank goodness we have a new women's group doing what the old ones have not done!

When HIllary dropped out, there was a lot of talk about protecting other women from the treatment she got -- meaning protecting Michelle Obama. But the treatment of Sarah Palin has been worse, and the same people who wanted to protect Michelle are now trashing Sarah!

Posted by: fsteele | September 20, 2008 3:33 PM

mm:

She's not just for herself, but at least for her daughters too. She's not anti-Palin women ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 3:28 PM

NOW has been a joke since that mousie Eleanor Smeal was in charge because it's just a sexist organization itself.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin | September 20, 2008 3:27 PM

"We cannot and will not sit idly by while another qualified candidate goes through what Senator Hillary Clinton had to endure."

Another "qualified" candidate? Clinton, yes. Palin, no way.

This group is just a bunch of sexists in skirts. They'll promote anybody as long as she's a woman. Sorry, but I have higher standards for my president than mere gender.

Posted by: Linda | September 20, 2008 3:27 PM

It is rather absurd for the New Agenda, primarily made up of Hillary supporters, to oppose endorsing Obama when Hillary herself in a powerful speech at the convention endorsed him herself. It seems this group's only criteria is whether or not a candidate is a woman; that's like the NAACP endorsing Alan Keyes. Isn't this election about the issues? McCain/Palin are anti-choice and anti-equal pay. Palin made rape victims pay for their investigative "rape kits" as a mayor!!! Why would a woman not follow Hillary's lead and endorse Obama? Is it because she believes women should be subordinate to men or she believes the earth is only 10,000 years old?

Posted by: MBY | September 20, 2008 3:27 PM

I think this won't matter in the end because she's not helping his poll numbers much, and her legal troubles may force her office the ticket within a few weeks. McCain/Romney anyone?

Posted by: GHR | September 20, 2008 3:26 PM

those women should protest as much as they wish.
their tantrums are irrelevant.
Biden represents better the interests of women, mothers sisters + wives than palin
doll of fascist patriarchy and echo of senator lieberman's pnac agenda.

Posted by: blade | September 20, 2008 3:25 PM

Are you kidding me? Why the hell would people vote for a ticket that has never stood up for anything but themselves.

McCain has lost his dam mind and everyone knows it.

Posted by: Antoine | September 20, 2008 3:24 PM

These are fake GOP groups that have already been exposed. This is old news and, regardless, no believes that Clinton supporters will vote for MCain, Palin or no Palin.

We want the right to choose and equal pay. We'll vote Obama.

Posted by: LindaK | September 20, 2008 3:24 PM

Be careful. As (older woman) Madeleine Albright says: "there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women."

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 2:49 PM


The feminists, during the primary season, said we're so liberated we are "freed" from the notion that we should vote for a woman president. This was after passively watching Hillary Clinton be bashed, parodied, belittled and marginalized using sexism instead of more respectful and professional treatment by her opposition. I.e. not only were we "liberated" from feeling we should vote for a woman, but we were so free that we should support a man whose behind-the-scenes media machine promoted sexist memes belittling female executive paradigms.

Now, organizations like NOW claim that it's anti-woman to support a female executive on the national ballot on account of Barack Obama's pro forma support for certain female-friendly laws relevant to low-class, low-earning women.

Maybe I feel sufficiently liberated that my vote is not chained to the need to support the wage-earning and federal abortion programs and policies. I am more interested in the advancement of executive women and transformation of party platforms and power structures to be more relevant to women, the majority voting block.

If feminism is sufficiently advanced that women don't need to vote for a first female national chief executive when there are so few female executives in our country, then feminism is sufficiently advanced that my vote isn't going to be held hostage by the democrats because they espouse a few laws that provide wage guarantees for low-class, low-level women and provide abortion guarantees for women who can't afford to, say, cross a border between 2 states to get an abortion.

The agenda items -- these low-class worker wage guarantees and laws that ensure every state has abortion (for those women who can't afford to cross a state line for an abortion) -- aren't meaningful enough for me personally to dedicate my vote to a party that so marginalizes and undermines the advancement of female executives.

And re: the above-person's quote of Madeleine Albright, Nancy Pelosi who declared that "there was no sexism" in the democratic primary season, can go to hell.

Period.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 3:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WVVcv8izbY&NR=1

I have lots of reasons to say NOBAMA, but this was the last straw.

Posted by: mark | September 20, 2008 3:23 PM

This organization cares nothing about women or justice or common sense. They are promoted to promote McCain and by posting here you are help WaPo promote them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:23 PM

so let me see if i've got this straight: hillary should rot in hell because she is not out stumping with her "sister" sarah palin? you people are absolutely ridiculous.

Posted by: lynn's therapist | September 20, 2008 3:22 PM

"Mom":

You always did love dcattorney more than me!

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 3:20 PM

Chris, Given McCain's age and health, it is a huge issue. There is a good chance Palin would be steering the ship and given what we have all found out about her as well as her extremist views , having her slip into that slot would be akin to suicide for the USA

Posted by: capricorn1 | September 20, 2008 3:19 PM

Wow voting for a antiwomen woman. You got to have a very twist and simple brain to think that just because you are a woman you should vote for a woman who would take away women's right. Thank god most women I know aren't idiots like Palin

Posted by: mm | September 20, 2008 3:19 PM

I'd like to blame the Democratic Party and NOW and Planned Parenthood, but the truth is, the blame is my own. I grew complacent and did not insist that these groups spoke for all woman everwhere. I sat on my butt and bought every platitude, every generalization and every LIE. I am ashamed that I did not take better care of my vote and hold it in higher regard. No more. The Democratic Party, NOW and others have forgotten or shown complete disregarded for what is important to women and have ignored us and slandered us and told us to "shut up and quit whining". Bravo to The New Agenda. May there be more and more groups like this one...willing to put themselves "out there" on behalf of myself and all woman everywhere and NEVER settling for 2nd class citizenship ever again.

Posted by: Wyoming X Dem | September 20, 2008 3:19 PM

Palin is a Masculinist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism

She doesn't have women's interests in mind, only her own!

Posted by: barbara | September 20, 2008 3:17 PM

"The New Agenda" is simply another republican-funded hate group.

Posted by: Republican VN Era Veteran | September 20, 2008 3:17 PM

False bpower...


""Barack Obama says he's for equal pay for women, but women working in his Senate office earn an average of $9,000 less than men. By contrast, women in John McCain's Senate office actually earn an average of nearly $2,000 more than men. The American people understand that real leadership for the change we need is all about what you do, not just empty words," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a statement.

The study that McCain's campaign cites, however, notes that a major reason for the disparity is that McCain has more women in senior, higher-paid positions -- not that women are being paid less than men for the same job."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/mccain_rebuts_o.html

"NOW IS THEN. McCain/Palin are NOT anti-woman rights. Who pays female staffers less than male counterparts???? OBAMA, "sweetie"."

Posted by: bpower | September 20, 2008 3:11 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 3:15 PM

what happen did we stop talking about issues.

Posted by: frank | September 20, 2008 3:14 PM

Fight media sexism by voting against your own self-interests? Sounds pretty dumb to me.

Posted by: maria58 | September 20, 2008 3:14 PM

If not for Obama/Biden what would there be for NOW to endorce in Sarah Palin? She does not represent what this country's women are all about. In light of what Sarah Palin is really about she is actually an embarrasment.

Posted by: capricorn1 | September 20, 2008 3:14 PM

Pay should be equivalent to performance not gender - and the president should be chosen for leadership ability not for the tickets net gender. However, as this article shows along with many other comments I just read - people still seem think race/gender etc deserves some sort of - please excuse the phrase - "handicap" by which these requirements are overlooked to match position/pay.

It could just very well be those members in the campaigns, were chosen for experience, and the junior members are gaining the experience needed to gain more money the next round. Or it could simply be those that did apply either A: did not ask for more B: simply did not have the abilities required for more.

Paranoia is sometimes just that. McCain hopes to captialize on that paranoia BTW - he chose Palin to scoop up those folks for his side - the VP has little or no real power, anyone remember a VP really making a difference, as VP?

Posted by: Chris | September 20, 2008 3:14 PM

i strongly believe that madeleine albright's quote "there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women" fits sarah palin like a glove. may she roast in hell for her anti-woman stances. this woman does not support or respect her own gender - merely uses them when it fits her needs. so i suggest that the new agenda and their bff sarah bring their fans along with them - hades is awfully warm year-round.

Posted by: northernexposure | September 20, 2008 3:13 PM

LOL, thanks Mom - I am rarely angry, so don't fret about me. You just take care of yourself! I'll be by for that 'home cooked dinner' on Sunday, can almost taste your special apple pie now. Mmmmm, good. How is Pa doing?

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 3:12 PM

Clinton Democrats for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: steveo | September 20, 2008 3:12 PM

sexist over-grown frat boy Chris Matthews takes it on the chin in the excellent letter on New Agenda web site to NBC brass.
why is he still on TV?
women who were trashed want to know. Thanks to New Agenda for the letter - what response did you get??
I am prepared to boycott NBC and MSNBC key advertisers. they can't trash women and get this mom's credit card.
Thanks New Agenda for stepping into the fray. kewl.

Posted by: kick out Chris Matthews | September 20, 2008 3:12 PM

NOW IS THEN. McCain/Palin are NOT anti-woman rights. Who pays female staffers less than male counterparts???? OBAMA, "sweetie".

Posted by: bpower | September 20, 2008 3:11 PM

Ladies...it is about the Platform. McShame and Palying are anti-women's rights! Did you ever hear of shooting yourself in the foot?

Posted by: Cindy | September 20, 2008 3:07 PM

you people love saying first black this first black that well guess what can you say first black president.now do you feel anymore first class by saying it and if you do i hope to make you more prouder than ever.

Posted by: frank | September 20, 2008 3:05 PM

@Frank

I suggest you leave this country either way. Anyone who would post something so ridiculous and hateful adds no value to this country. You're obviously the racist here... clearly voting for the less qualified candidate only because of his race. See ya!

Posted by: NObama | September 20, 2008 3:01 PM

I got it dcattorney, and luckily people voting strictly by sex seem to be the minority.

"Women voters are much more likely to say they plan to vote for the Democratic candidate rather than the Republican candidate in their district this year, by a 54% to 37% margin."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/24463/How-Different-Groups-Americans-Plan-Vote-Nov-7th.aspx


"Get real. For all of you who think Dem.women for McCain is a creation of the Rep Party or Rush Limbaugh, get a look at the polls. The truth will tell on Nov. 4th, so just wait for it."

Be careful. As (older woman) Madeleine Albright says: "there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women."
Got it?"

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 2:49 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 3:01 PM

governor palin, who charged women for rape kits, does not support equal pay for equal work, who wants to ban abortions - even those involving rape and incest? this is the woman i want my teen-aged daughters to look up to as a role model? sarah palin is a self-loathing sick individual, as are the "progressive" women who are voting for mccain to spite obama. if you support gov. palin's vision of this new america, you could always move to iran or saudi arabia where i am sure you would feel right at home.

Posted by: lynn's therapist | September 20, 2008 3:00 PM

Dear DC Attorney - the Democrats have split along race, gender, class, and age? If you are an attorney, you would know this cannot be backed up by fact. If you saw the DNC and RNC, there is nothing that could compel you to make that argument. Half of the people at the RNC make more than $500K, there was the lowest minority participation ever - just the opposite of the DNC. So, you sound pretty angry and sure of yourself and that isn't healthy, really.

Please take your vitamins and get plenty of rest. You are so much cuter with a smile on your face and a song in your heart. We are always happy to have you at our table.

Hugs,Mom

Posted by: Mom | September 20, 2008 3:00 PM

I'm a woman who sees through the fake group, "The New Agenda"

I'm a woman who stands in spirit with the nearly 2,000 attending the Alaskan Women Against Palin, who see the truth: that Palin is bad for women, bad for this country, and bad for this planet.

For the love of all that's good -- OBAMA 08

Posted by: Morning | September 20, 2008 3:00 PM

"It just hilights how the democrats are a crazy colition..."

Judging by your spelling, I guess we're screwing up education, too.

Posted by: Bradley | September 20, 2008 2:58 PM

punish me for wanting a black president go ahead call me what you want i don't care i want a black president.i am black and i would love to see a black president is that a sin you dam right i want to see a black president as bad as you don't want to see one.i would love not to see another white one for the next four years thats for sure.my message is clear you can throw politics out of the window hes the best out there and he happens to be black and i am proud of him.boy thats pretty racist isn't it.

Posted by: frank | September 20, 2008 2:58 PM

The study that McCain's campaign cites, however, notes that a major reason for the disparity is that McCain has more women in senior, higher-paid positions -- not that women are being paid less than men for the same job."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/mccain_rebuts_o.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 2:07 PM


What you say is true. The main reason why Obama's women only earn 0.83 cents on the dollar compared to men is that Obama's senior staff is primarily men, while he has kept women predominantly as junior staff.

This is completely different than the public face of his campaign, where there are more female surrogates and spokespeople on TV than there are male.

Obama talks about pay equality, but that is the equality of low-level employee women who are paid equally as the low-level males. Presumably, he pays female secretaries as much as male secretaries, only he has more female secretaries than he has female senior executive staff.

There is a difference between equal pay among low-class female staff and advancement and empowerment of women.

The legal protections of GENDER PAY EQUALITY Barack Obama offers is the enforcement of equality laws that require that, if you're a female janitor, you get paid as much as a janitor of another gender and race.

"Of Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women."

The EMPOWERMENT AND EMPOWERMENT McCain offers is the actual equal staffing so that he has powerful as well as junior level women throughout his campaign. Including a woman as his second in command.

"McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878."

THAT is why McCain's female staff earns more than Obama's. They are at higher power levels, and aren't just in low-paid positions.

There is a difference between true equality and pushing laws for equal pay for low-level workers, while excluding women from top spots, which is what Obama practices, and actually having women in your organization who are both equally paid and also occupy top spots and not just low-level staff positions.

Now if you like Obama's approach, why don't you go get me a cup of coffee and shut up. I promise to pay you as much as I'd tip a male secretary. -- that's not "equality"

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 2:57 PM

Oh, 30 women refute NOW, which is a huge membership group with more than half a million members?

What a sham that you'd give this ad hoc PUMA reformation a credible platform.

*yawn*

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:55 PM

This women's group is not only nonpartisan and nonprofit, but also nonsensical. It seems to be basing its political choices entirely on the presence or absence of vaginas. rather than on the presence or absence of solid commitments to women's rights, in candidates. Shame!

Posted by: angry moderate | September 20, 2008 2:55 PM

It is the National Organization FOR Women, not OF women. There is a huge difference.

Women who support McCain, or don't support Obama, are saying, "no thanks to that equal pay thing. We're happy to make less than men." They are also saying goodbye to their right to choose. That is not being FOR women.

Posted by: Bradley | September 20, 2008 2:54 PM

Further proof that identity hardliners are imbeciles.

Anyway I'm not sure associating with Carly Fiorina is good for this group, or for McCain. Every time she opens her mouth something stupid comes out.

Posted by: TRBoston | September 20, 2008 2:54 PM

So basically they're mad that NOW didn't endorse McCain simply because he has a woman on his ticket? Never mind the fact that most women don't agree with Palin's views as long as she has a vagina she deserves the woman vote? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and Hillary is probably ashamed to have such supporters.

Posted by: Melanie | September 20, 2008 2:52 PM

*** UPDATED- HOW THE PALIN HACKER DID IT ***

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:52 PM

A popup ad of a helicopter just flew across my page, and landed in an ad box on the right that says "HH-47, combat -tested, production-ready. Boeing."

They join the Post's huge stable of arms dealing advertisers, like Northrop Grumman, EADS, ITT, and the Post's number one advertiser, Lockheed Martin.

I bet you Americans think it's perfectly normal to have heavy military weapons routinely advertised in your newspapers.

Not at all a sign of a sick, militaristic culture, oh no.

Forget Palin and Obama and old whatshisname. These are the real rulers of America. Everyone else is just dancing to their tune.

Eisenhower warned you the military-industrial complex would take control of your society, and sure enough they have. They even control Americans' brains.

Posted by: Kevrobb | September 20, 2008 2:50 PM

Get real. For all of you who think Dem.women for McCain is a creation of the Rep Party or Rush Limbaugh, get a look at the polls. The truth will tell on Nov. 4th, so just wait for it.

I'm fine with being a longtime Dem supporting McCain/Palin. I think if identity voting is fine for other groups, it is fine for me. I'll be thrilled to see a woman in the Exec. branch, even if she is a Republican woman. As the blatant sexism / outright misogyny of the MSM, assisted by the Obama campaign in the primary, proved we need more women in elected office, progressive, moderate and conservative.

The Dem party has split its traditional base along lines of race, class, gender and age. The vitriol being thrown at older women especially - on the web and in the media - is particularly disturbing.
Cooper - I may be "your grandmother's age" - if she and your mother were pregnant as teenagers - but I do have a grasp of the economic situation and the issues facing the health care industry in the US. The question you should ask yourself is - why is that important for you to say? Are you trying to say older people, particularly women, are less important than you? Are you trying to say older people are stupid? You say you have a lot of time, and I hope you have a long useful working life. Maybe you won't be content to make 77 cents on the dollar - on average - the whole time.
Be careful. As (older woman) Madeleine Albright says: "there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women."
Got it?

Posted by: dcattorney | September 20, 2008 2:49 PM

"Mom":

Do you mean "real" women like special needs and/or unborn females?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 2:48 PM

Wow, you think NOW and NARAL are Democratic stooges and shills? No, tell me it ain't so, Joe.

Obama, Progressing back to the 60's.

Trotting out the same old Democratic Limousine Liberals, Volcker, Rubin, Biden, Kennedy.

Great oversight, Senator Obama, Senator McCain, Senator Biden.

Change You Better Believe In.

Or Else.

Off to borrow $12,000 to finance my BiPartisan Bailout for Obama and McCain Lobbyists and Bankers.

Posted by: NOW Hear This | September 20, 2008 2:48 PM

Most NOW members are ugly post menopausal frigid women that have too much time on their hands...with nothing better to do then glorify the killing of babies in the womb as a supreme right of women.

Posted by: dan | September 20, 2008 2:47 PM

I think the group of Hillary women need to get over their perceived slights. I am a white woman and you do not speak for me. I think racism is lots lots worse than sexism. I was not for Hillary much in the first place and she completely lost me when she lied about being shot at. But then she openly apologized and I respected her a little more. Oddly enough, I now like her pretty much because she has acted pretty classy of late as compared to you and that Duchess - or whatever she is. Please remember that you do NOT speak for all women just because you think you have that right. For the first time, I support the efforts of NOW, because they seem to really be trying to make a difference. Biden and Obama are definitely not sexist. Neither is my husband.

Posted by: VLR | September 20, 2008 2:47 PM

This woman wants to know: who the hell is The New Agenda? They have a blog that started Sept. 3, 2008, and all they seem to do is blindly support Palin with an insane, reverse sexism ideal like, "she has a vagina and so do I, so I support her."

I'm a feminist, and I never heard of this group. I've check with my highly informed feminist friends, and, so far, two of them have gotten back to me that they never heard of "The New Agenda," (and they don't like the looks of it.)

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THIS MADE-UP FAKE FEMINIST SHAM OF A GROUP!

Posted by: UliPele | September 20, 2008 2:46 PM

With McCain, Venezuela could attack Colombia, and somehow we'd end up at war with Iran a year later.


Posted by: Hank | September 20, 2008 2:39 PM

Hankster, did your old white stepdad abuse you as a child? C'mon, say it, f*** y** to the old white guy! Say it, you have the guts, right?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:45 PM

Palin Palin Palin......

Hmmm, now that was Joey B and Barry Who, right?

Posted by: Independent Raza Girl | September 20, 2008 2:41 PM

Ladies, if you believe the McPalin ticket is going to do anything for real women - equal pay for equal work, family leave, or choice - even if it is to create an environment that makes it easier to choose life - then I've got a Bridge to Nowhere for you.

I know it was so disappointing not to have Hillary on the ticket. I do understand that completely. However, Barack was raised by a single mom until she couldn't do it any more. As an educator, my experience with boys raised by single moms is that they are more keenly aware of the issues than anyone. For all those of us who have had mastectomies or hysterectomies, we can also attest to the fact that women are not made by boobs and uteri alone. What makes a woman is in our hearts and minds - and Biden and Obama really do understand that.

So, I don't know how to talk you off this ledge and it makes me sad that I have seen over the years, woman take stands that actually work against their best interests. I know you might be pissed off - but think of your daughters, because if McPalin gets in, it could easily take that long before our country is restored.

Let me just say also that what McPalin won't do is to restore the Federal Agencies that have suffered under this administration - the Dept of Injustice, NSF, etc. This election is about women's issues on many, many levels. So my heartfelt prayers are with you.

Love, Mom

Posted by: Mom | September 20, 2008 2:40 PM

"what happens to our man, Obama, when we stare down the tip of a nuclear warhead, or one of embassies is blown to smitherines, or when war breaks out in south america? what will he do?"

I'll tell you what he'd do: he'd protect us, and respond appropriately.

What he wouldn't do: Use the crisis for political gain or as an excuse to invade some other country on the neocon's radar.

With McCain, Venezuela could attack Colombia, and somehow we'd end up at war with Iran a year later.

Posted by: Hank | September 20, 2008 2:39 PM

As someone who has interviewed and spoken in depth with Amy Siskind- I feel it safe to say, what is this woman thinking?
Siskind believes New Agenda is the reason McCain picked Palin- and if that is the narrative they want to construe.. then they have bigger fish to fry.
This is why new agenda throws Roe out the window, in order to negate the grim truism that women are being taken advantage of by the Republican party and McCain is trying to utilize and capitalize off of their sensitivity and naivete.
Question: What's more important, women's rights? Or women in power who are against women's rights?
http://yestodemocracy.com

Posted by: Yes To Democracy dot com | September 20, 2008 2:38 PM

When the New Agenda is to support any candidate solely because of her gender, we are no further along than the days when ballots were For White Males Only. Sarah Palin stands for crony capitalism, vicious partisanship, inverse snobbery and for imposing a right-wing fundamentalist agenda on all Americans, men and women.

Many women fought courageously and hard to give us the vote. It's too precious a privilege to squander in the fit of pique.

Posted by: Jane Kyle | September 20, 2008 2:38 PM

i want to make a bet with all the racist and bigots out there if obama wins this election you all get a free trip out of this country.and if mccain wins i will pay my way out of this country how about that.i would to hear more bets like this with mccain voters.white repub scumbags.

Posted by: frank | September 20, 2008 2:33 PM

You're what we in field, call a liability

When you leave the country, I doubt for your survival

Posted by: Johnny Democracy | September 20, 2008 2:38 PM

So this is 30 Clinton supporters? Thirty people and it gets a post on a premier Washington Post blog? And the only one of them I'd heard of before today is this Countess Rothschild person who calls Obama an elitist from her 3200 acre estate in Europe.

It didn't work and Palin is looking more and more like a joke but the plan was to set her up as the model for American women: six figure job, 5 kids, husband gets to do whatever he wants with his hobbies, etc. It would have been more of a threat to women than Bush or Bob Dole so its appropriate that NOW endorsed this year even if they haven't endorsed previously. Fortunately, Palin fell under her own weight.

Posted by: Kate Archam. | September 20, 2008 2:37 PM

"Here, here. One would think that the national organization of WOMEN would support women running for public office.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 20, 2008 2:23 PM "

There, there, Jennifer! Remedial spelling for you!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:35 PM

personal opinion with respect to the abortion issue has nothing to do with policies.Gov Palin might be pro-life.Nonetheless that does not mean a thing when it comes to politics. For example, Obama hates whites. Does that mean if he becomes a president, he will enslave the white race? it is his personal opinion and that is why he was very comfortable with rev wright and he had him as his spiritual mentor! which is cool with us as long as it will not affect his political decisions!

Posted by: CVO | September 20, 2008 2:35 PM

This is a fake group. Everyone knows that. These people would never have voted for Clinton anyway. This group, like PUMA, was put together by GOP/McCain operatives. That the Washington Post would even publish this story shows how ridiculous political journalism has become in recent years.

Posted by: FDG | September 20, 2008 2:34 PM

i want to make a bet with all the racist and bigots out there if obama wins this election you all get a free trip out of this country.and if mccain wins i will pay my way out of this country how about that.i would to hear more bets like this with mccain voters.white repub scumbags.

Posted by: frank | September 20, 2008 2:33 PM

what happens to our man, Obama, when we stare down the tip of a nuclear warhead, or one of embassies is blown to smitherines, or when war breaks out in south america?

what will he do? i sure hope his community of organizers will protect all of us? the military sure won't.

remember, he snubbed them all a few months ago, when he refused to visit army hospital in iraq, because he couldn't bring all his cameras, and media players with him.

is barry ready to protect us. i'm sorry i said f*** y** to the old white man, really))))

Posted by: zombie | September 20, 2008 2:33 PM

Voting for Obama just because he is black, is just as silly as voting for McCain because he is white, or because Palin is a woman.

Now to be fair I think more black voters have been for Democrats in recent years, so any shift to Obama based on race is less pronounced than when "Democratic" women suddenly switch to McCain because of Palin.

If you don't vote your choice based on the person, their goals and plans for the country, etc, you are just being a lemming.


"-- so if yr black and your voting for Ob(which 90% do), does that make you Rac...

-double standard, but the left is full of that"

Posted by: snapplecat07 | September 20, 2008 2:28 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 2:32 PM

Hallelujah for The New Agenda group! NOW has been giving me an Excedrin headache since they started rejecting anyone who doesn't fit their narrow ultraliberal agenda.
Wait for me--I want to join the new group.I'm a former Democrat, pro-choice woman with years of working for women's issues and I can no longer tolerate NOW.

Posted by: zaney8 | September 20, 2008 2:32 PM

CVO writes:If you are voting for McCain/Palin just because Palin is a woman then you are being blindly sexist.

-- so if yr black and your voting for Ob(which 90% do), does that make you Rac...

-double standard, but the left is full of that

Posted by: snapplecat07 | September 20, 2008 2:28 PM

****


You can poll all you want. And you can say 18, 14, 50 or whatever percent you feel comfortable with are undecided.

That's untrue. Every American has made up their mind on this election, and with Independents on-board, McCain will win easily.


jd

****

Posted by: Johnny Democracy | September 20, 2008 2:27 PM

Hallelujah for The New Agenda group! NOW has been giving me an Excedrin headache since they started rejecting anyone who doesn't fit their narrow agenda.
Wait for me--I want to join the new group.

Posted by: zaney8 | September 20, 2008 2:27 PM

I only see about 10 posts by obviously male names, and other than the all cap silliness you always I get I don't see the pattern you describe.

There are a lot of women I would have been quite happy to vote for, or to see either party put forward, none of them are Sarah Palin.

"note how angry, personal and abusive the posters with male names get when kudos for a woman candidate..."
Posted by: men run scared | September 20, 2008 2:18 PM

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 2:26 PM

all women sucks you want this you want that and now that most of you has become men you want to be considered a women you can
't have it both ways.when you start playing football on sundays i will consider you a women so for all of you out there take the pants off and put a dress on.your all a bunch of followers so vote mccain and shut up who cares.a real women think for herself.

Posted by: frank | September 20, 2008 2:25 PM

If you agree with McCain/Palin's position on the issue and their vision for the future of the country then by all means vote for them.

If you are voting for McCain/Palin just because Palin is a woman then you are being blindly sexist.

Vote with your brain, not your uterus.


Really? How about those 95% African american who vote to make history? what do you call this racial pride? women are fit to mob the floor, clean the toilet, work night shift and support her family and still have five and eight children and take good care of them but she can not be a vice president? We are supposed to respect and vote for Obama who said that our votes do not matter?
how many years do women have to wait till we are given the opportunity to be president? The answer is 44 days !

Posted by: cvo | September 20, 2008 2:24 PM

Here, here. One would think that the national organization of WOMEN would support women running for public office.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 20, 2008 2:23 PM

Remember Obama, the polls and the primaries?

Hillary was always short-changed on the polls. Somehow, she always performed much better than the polls indicated....hmmm, wonder why? Could it be that these very same polls, that now have McCain and Obama in a virtual deadlock, are biased?

If so, I do feel sorry for Obama's chances in November

Posted by: Independent Raza Girl | September 20, 2008 2:23 PM

All these groups are part of Operation Chaos:

Together4US, Party Unity My Ass (PUMA), IOwnMyVote, Just Say No Deal and Vote Democracy '08.

Posted by: Andrew | September 20, 2008 2:22 PM

I suspect NOW endorsed Obama and Biden because the actually support and work for woman's rights, unlike McCaine and Palin. Palin may be female but she is no advocate for women. Way to go NOW! Good call and proper choice.

Posted by: Suzi | September 20, 2008 2:21 PM

DItto heads?
DITTO heads?
AHA!
All this time I thought they were saying "DILDO heads"......

Posted by: tomcat3 | September 20, 2008 2:19 PM

NOW definition of a woman:

human being, capable of reproducing the species, or sometimes killing the right, who is always a liberal,

US Pollster Census Bureau definition of a woman:

majority voter block, often perceived as exclusively liberal, BUT in reality, is often more likely to vote along conservative lines.

Posted by: janorama | September 20, 2008 2:19 PM

Hey, this is cool. The PUMAs have renamed themselves.

That's good to know, since we can make fun of them now also.

Posted by: Stipes | September 20, 2008 2:19 PM

note how angry, personal and abusive the posters with male names get when kudos for a woman candidate or either party are given. they are overly entitled in their 'right' to verbally assault women. makes Sarah Palin look good and I don;t agree with her on much.
Obama has few senior level women in his office, what a shock! more reasons to pass on this newbie who hopes for an affirmative action pass. He seems proud of his sexism.
just say...No.

Posted by: men run scared | September 20, 2008 2:18 PM

ABOUT THOSE "HILLARY WOMEN FOR MCCAIN"

Some news outlets, like this one, slyly mislead readers by omitting the details of the "Hillary Women for Clinton" groups like The New Agenda.

Let me fill you in:

Early this year, Rush Limbaugh announced a ploy to disrupt the Democratic primaries, called Operation Chaos. He told his "dittoheads" [Rush fans] to go register as Democrats and vote for Hillary Clinton in an attempt to thwart Obama. Thousands of rightwing radicals and bigots did just that. This is why you see so-called "Hillary Women for McCain". They are racist Republicans in wolves clothing.

They insist on continuing the scam even though they have been thoroughly exposed in the press. Is it stubborness or just blind stupidity? You decide.

Here's a link to info on Operation Chaos. There are many if you Google it, but I just picked one randomly to use here:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/wtf-rush-limbaugh-taking-opera.php

Posted by: Andrew | September 20, 2008 2:16 PM

**** NEW INFO ON ALLEGED PALIN HACKER****

Hey guys have new info on the alleged Palin hacker, including a pic of the kid.

http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:15 PM

More like the New Puma Agenda, but that is nothing really new.

I really respect Hillary and feel she doesn't need Obama to lose in 2008 for her to win in 2012. I am not willing to risk our supreme court, right to choose, economy, and the chance of having Palin as president, just because I am bitter about Hillary's loss in the primaries.


"Many of the women who attended The New Agenda's first meeting got to know each other as a result working with pro-Hillary groups. Attendees included founding members of such groups as Together4US, Party Unity My Ass (PUMA), IOwnMyVote, Just Say No Deal and Vote Democracy '08.

"This group is comprised of women who are "gravely concerned about the mistreatment of Hillary Clinton during the primary season, and the passion and emotion that resulted from Hillary's mistreatment brought us together.," says Siskind."

http://www.hillarygreenmountain.com/2008/08/women-form-the-new-agenda.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 2:13 PM

So let me get this straight - you are willing to go back to the dark ages around reproductive freedom just as long as a woman is represented on the ticket. This type of lunacy doesn't really deserve this much attention. My vote goes to the person who supports peace, choice, the middle class, and the environment every single time. This doesn't make me feel like I am a woman being taken for granted by the Democratic party, but someone who is VALUED by the Dems. You have a right to choose the people who will ultimately make women's lives more difficult, but I would urge you to think about the long term implications of this immature, self-absorbed, faulty reasoning.

Posted by: AJMcCarter | September 20, 2008 2:13 PM

....woo, yeh,

he said, that Obama will lead us to the true life of inhibition, self-appreciation and decadence, and that we can finally say "f*** y** to the old white man, and we can crush the moral authority, and really bring down the United States of America.

tag all neighborhoods dudes, yes he said this, my professor, and well, I'm not sure of what this all means, but I think our time has come.

Posted by: zombie | September 20, 2008 2:09 PM

Wow. If they are foolish enough to vote for McCain-Palin and set back women's issues a few decades, so be it. But it really is appalling.

Obama outmaneuvered Clinton. Obama won. True democrats support the winner of the primary. My first choice didn't win either, but you suck it up and support the party, if you have any integrity.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:08 PM

My AsPumagirl I will have to call BS on the campaign pay bit.

""Barack Obama says he's for equal pay for women, but women working in his Senate office earn an average of $9,000 less than men. By contrast, women in John McCain's Senate office actually earn an average of nearly $2,000 more than men. The American people understand that real leadership for the change we need is all about what you do, not just empty words," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a statement.

The study that McCain's campaign cites, however, notes that a major reason for the disparity is that McCain has more women in senior, higher-paid positions -- not that women are being paid less than men for the same job."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/mccain_rebuts_o.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 2:07 PM

It's naive to accept New Agenda as a "women's group" when it is as yet just a website with no membership, no grassroots participation, and no track record that would allow anyone to evaluate its self-presentation as a "feminist" and "non-partisan" organization. Until it proves itself otherwise, New Agenda is a new right-wing website, nothing more.

Posted by: Mira | September 20, 2008 2:07 PM

NOW supports the Obama/Biden ticket because they are more
qualified to be president and vice president than McCain and Palin are.

McCain is a flip, flip, flop. flopper who daily changes what he is for and what he is against to what he thinks will get him the most votes. No more "straight talk" from this candidate.

Palin is a joke. What an unqualified candidate she is!!!

NOW is endorsing the candidates who will be the best president and vice president. They are not sexist and are not endorsing someone JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN.

Posted by: janye | September 20, 2008 2:06 PM

Sounds like an "Old Agenda," to me. These were Hillary Clinton supporters? Really? Palin/McCaine would put the progress of women back a hundred years. These are simply a bunch of republicans in disguise.

So, Lady Rothschild you can take your fancy jewels, mansions, servants, private jets and yachts and just buzz off.

Posted by: C. Feher | September 20, 2008 2:05 PM

New Agenda = Hags for Hillary = GOP front group

Posted by: anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:05 PM

My professor told me to vote for Obama, so I did.

Posted by: zombie | September 20, 2008 2:02 PM

Apparently misleading mailings are showing up in more places than just FL.


"Misleading Mailers Descend on Swing States

Short on detail or just plain wrong, mailings with GOP return addresses are sowing confusion on voting status with fewer than two months before the big day."

http://www.miller-mccune.com/article/705

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94818483

http://media.npr.org/documents/2008/sep/floridavoterconfusion.pdf

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 2:01 PM

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REQUIRE WAGE & EQUALITY LAWS ARE LOW CLASS & LOW-LEVEL WORKERS.

WHAT ABOUT THE EXECUTIVES & PROFESSIONALS?

OBAMA'S SENIOR STAFF IS MOSTLY MALE & HIS WOMEN EARN 0.83 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR COMPARED TO THE MEN.

MCCAIN'S SENIOR STAFF IS MORE THAN 50 PERCENT WOMEN AND HIS WOMEN EARN $1.04 FOR EACH DOLLAR THE MALES EARN.

MCCAIN PUT PALIN ON HIS TICKET WHEN HE DIDN'T HAVE TO

OBAMA STRETCHED EVERY WAY HE COULD TO SNUB HILLARY

OBAMA = PATRONIZING LIP SERVICE & SUPPORTS LAWS RELEVANT ONLY TO LOW CLASS OR LOW-LEVEL WOMEN WORKERS

MCCAIN = TRUE ADVANCEMENT FOR WOMEN INTO THE FINAL STAGES OF EMPOWERMENT, TRUE EQUALITY

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 2:00 PM

****

Nov 5, 2008 Headlines,

FEAR GRIPS AMERICA, MCCAIN WINS!

Extensive record turnout by African Americans, Federal Aetheists, Homosexuals, and Baby Killers not enough to overturn the momentum Traditional, Conservative American voters.

May God bless our country, and the tough road we all face ahead...


jd


****

Posted by: Johnny Democracy | September 20, 2008 1:48 PM

JD,

Right on with the "not politically correct" termonology.

Isn't it funny the way NOW calls killing fetuses reproductive rights? Isn't it hilarious the way homosexuals call themselves "gay", (as if they're somehow happier than everyone else)? And isn't it even a greater stretch the way voters who hate people of faith call themselves advocates of the constitution?

When this stupid insult to the English language, becomes ever more apparent in the next few weeks, McCain and Palin will rise like cream to the top, and all the snide, sneering underbelly of our culture will drift off into the infernal abyss!

Yours truly,
Independent Raza Girl

Posted by: independent raza girl | September 20, 2008 1:59 PM

If you agree with McCain/Palin's position on the issue and their vision for the future of the country then by all means vote for them.

If you are voting for McCain/Palin just because Palin is a woman then you are being blindly sexist.

Vote with your brain, not your uterus.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 1:58 PM

1viejo, yeah, McCain is soooo smart that he called the economy "fundamentally sound" as Wall Street was burning like ancient Rome. It was McCain who notes Palin's experience as CinC of the Alaska National Guard (which qualifies the other governors as well). It was McCain who chose an unvetted, untested veep candidate who can do no more than get propaganda crammed into the brain for regurgitation and/or to be read from a TelePrompTer. It was McCain who chose a veep who cannot do an interview without handlers and who did not know the "Bush Doctrine" of preemptive wars.

You and Caribou Barbie need to read more.

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | September 20, 2008 1:56 PM

BREAKING:

After the abysmal near-collapse of the financial sector this week due to deregulation, John McCain proposes deregulating the health insurance industry next.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/mccain-on-banking-and-health/

You know, to be completely inconsistent in your positions is one thing.

To be aggressively adversarial toward the well-being and health of the American public is unforgivable.

This is a monumental gaffe in light of the damage to our banking system this week.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 20, 2008 1:55 PM

"New Agenda" is non-partisan???? Really?

And they are watch-dogging Palin?

Sad to think that any person sheds a tear for a phony and manipulative candidate who undermines OLD agendas such as freedom of choice, peace, freedom of (freedom from) religion.

Lady whatsherface should maybe take her millions and buy some insurance for the kids in the United States can't afford it thanks to the Bush/Cheney/McCain administration. As a grandmother and feminist, I say Boo/Hiss to this New Agenda. They're wrong.

Posted by: suzeq | September 20, 2008 1:53 PM

Women are a majority, not a minority, and there is no reason for us to be marginalized as a voting block, as if we were a minority rather than the important swing group we should be.

Blacks are about 16 percent of the population while women are more than 50 percent.

How is it possible that women's dreams are still being marginalized within democratic party as if we were less value than 16 percent of the population, unless we have truly fallen into the trap of being a captive vote, owned by democrats who are taking our votes for granted?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 1:52 PM

It's about time people stop voting their genitals (or ethnicity, or whatever superficial trait) and start voting their brains. Good move NOW!

Posted by: Think Tanker | September 20, 2008 1:52 PM

First, I am a middle-clss white woman and this cliche of elitist, royalty-by-marriage women does NOT represent me. Furthermore, the reason I moved from supporting Sen. Clinton to supporting Sen. Obama is precisely because of women like this. The fact that they would support Palin-McCain, who stand against everything that HRC is for, tells me where their true allegiance lies and it's not to women.

Second, I am so sick of reading all the thinly veiled racist comments throughout the web, like the ones here, and hearing them on TV and radio. And these people call themselves Christians? Guess what? Jesus wasn't white. I can't decide if Country First means Money First or Race First, because it's hard to distinquish among those three as defined by the GOP ticket and its supporters.

Posted by: LauraC | September 20, 2008 1:51 PM

Wage & labor protections for women are only relevant to low-class, low-on-the-ladder women. These laws are necessary when executive men rule and women are low-level denizens at the power of a male-management culture.

A regime that keeps executive women down, but keeps these "equality" laws in place, is programmed for a model of business society in which women are on the factory floor and low level managers, but not executives and professional experts.

Moving to the next level of equality requires a move to the Republican model, which is to populate the upper levels with women, who affect the executive culture by populating it. The sexism in media this year is due, in part, to the dominance of sexist male communication and social paradigms in the editorial and executive elites, more than any intentionally systematic sexist agenda. The population of executive classes with women transforms the environment as a "final step" toward empowerment and equality.

This is what Palin represents -- paving the way for more women into executive offices on a large scale by being an unabashedly normal mom personally, who we can recognize as a personally grounded woman and rather than a sexually unusual caricature of the self-consciously feminist, liberal power-female character.

A turning away from breaking the glass ceiling to seek the comfort of a male who promises to promote low-class wage equality laws and other paternalistic, patronizing promises to take care of our needs for us, while marginalizing women in his own organization's senior ranks (see, e.g. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmEzMTZmNTk5MDI0NTZmNjUwMjllN2ZlZTc0MWFmYzY=), is the step backward for women.

Trading real progress into the upper reaches of America's ultimate boardrooms for the protections of labor laws that are part of the paternalistic equality programs for blue collar, low-class women, is a step backward.

One of the reasons McCain had so much difficulty picking a female running mate this year was that so many of the prominent female Republicans are pro-choice. This should tell us all something: as more women flow into the Republican party, especially its upper ranks, the enemy will become diffuse on this issue. It is always better to mount a "friendly invasion" of the enemy's own territory with colonies and occupation, thereby defanging the enemy by transforming the hostile territory into a mutual society, than it is to remain hostage behind the walls of one entrenched city who promises to protect your tribe forever.

Women are not a "minority", women are a "marginalized majority". There is no reason why we should remain a captive vote of one political party, thereby perpetualizing and institutionalizing our marginalization.

There is no bigger step forward for women, than to move in great numbers into the Republican party's center and become a large, important swing vote. If women can and do become a swing vote block, it will become a truly important one due to the sheer numbers of women in the electorate. Only by being held captive in one party for so long, have the woman's vote and women's rights been marginalized as political issues as if we were a minority.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 1:51 PM

They need to get over this or we will not put Obama in the White House. They can all go take out their frustrations at http://www.bop-o-rama.com, but come on, vote for Obama!!

Posted by: RStone | September 20, 2008 1:49 PM

****

Nov 5, 2008 Headlines,

FEAR GRIPS AMERICA, MCCAIN WINS!

Extensive record turnout by African Americans, Federal Aetheists, Homosexuals, and Baby Killers not enough to overturn the momentum Traditional, Conservative American voters.

May God bless our country, and the tough road we all face ahead...


jd


****

Posted by: Johnny Democracy | September 20, 2008 1:48 PM

blackandbitterlikecoffee

Obama and Biden are the smart guys?

You need to work on your pecs.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 20, 2008 1:46 PM

Maybe NOW read something the New Agenda didn't read, like McCain's plan to deregulate the health care industry for starters, because it worked so well with the banking industry.

I find a selfish group of women my grandmother's age a little naive in that I can see them vindictively not voting for Obama, because it's usually thought what happens will technically only affect their grandchildren, but in our current situation it appears they haven't read any real facts lately. What is happening will now also affect them - it's here and now not in the future.

I hope they get what they deserve, I at least have years to build back up financially, an young and can survive on little.

These women do not have that kind of time.

Posted by: cooper | September 20, 2008 1:43 PM

Two words: irrational behavior

Posted by: verycreative | September 20, 2008 1:43 PM

AsperGirl, Deroy Murdock is a right-wing hack who is not worth the digital ink he uses. I went to school with that jerk at Georgetown. When you come with more credible sources, please let us adults know. Go back to your sandbox now and let the adults conduct business! You're dismissed!

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | September 20, 2008 1:42 PM

Obama plays the race card, again! This time with Latinos.

First they used the "race card" on Bill Clinton, then on Hillary, then on Geraldine Ferraro and now on John McCain. The so called "new politics" guy is practicing the worst kind of politics-- the racial politics of the past!

http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com

Posted by: DCfred | September 20, 2008 1:40 PM

Sorry Folks! If NOW has not endorsed that many candidates (Clinton, Gore, etc.) then it must be panicking now and that, itself is news worthy. Certainly more so if they're being called on it. And if you think anatomy is irrelevant then why is gender an issue at all? ever? You are far more than hypocritical if you think it is ok for NOW to endorse ANY candidate in this election, given their history. And then endorsing an all-male ticket when there is a woman on the other side? Are they not making a mockery of their reason for existence? If Democrats think they are being "liberal" then they've been getting the Presidents they've deserved, especially Bush. As for female supporters of Obama, why do you get HYSTERICAL if women prefer a women-leader over yet another man?

Posted by: Bo Bo | September 20, 2008 1:38 PM

Delighted for this heads up about New Agenda and I will seek their views as well as PUMA Pac going forward. Bile from men on these posts reinforces the need for women to support women running for office. Phunny that NoBama has a man to meet with this group - exactly how tone deaf to women is he. LOL.
Ladies, if you agree these movements have merit, be sure to contact voters in swing states like mine. Hateful sneering from men should not stand in your way and should spur you to action. Most of them aren't in the swing states Hillary trounced NoBama in, and are impotent come election day to get him elected.
Please leave the president choice blank, write in Hillary or vote just this once for a GOP pres. and then vote Dems. the rest of the ticket. Speak truth to the powerful men who are continue to try to dilute your vote and co-opt your vote.
NoBama!

Posted by: Puma Pac! NoBama from Florida | September 20, 2008 1:37 PM

junglejim, it is the economy, stupid!

The US government, in case you don't know (which is likely in your case) bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The Treasury also helped out Bear Stearns. Merrill Lynch was bought by B of A as a result of the subprime, real estate, and mortgage messes. Lehman Brothers, a 158-year-old financial institution of commerce, went belly up. AIG was loaned $80B from the Federal Reserve, lest its failure cause a worldwide collapse of the economy. WaMu sits on the cliff's edge, as well as other who have not made the headlines, yet.

On Main Street, USA, we have 300,000 mortgage foreclosures a month now. Unemployment is now 6.1%. Gas is still at all-time highs. The US deficit is killing the dollar's buying power.

All because we got the not-smart guy in office for eight years with his cronies raiding every government till imaginable, including the Smithsonian. The country does not need a man who plays the POW card at every turn and his Caribou Barbie who is nothing more than a cheerleader. The country needs the smart guys, i.e., Obama/Biden.

Get it? Good! Vote for Obama/Biden in 44 days!!

Posted by: black and Bitter Like Coffee | September 20, 2008 1:37 PM

After reading this article, I have come to the sad conclusion that there are a lot of really dumb people out there. Obviously this group of females has too much time and money on their hands. Give it a rest girls.

My other thought is that it must be a very slow day at the WP to waste time and energy on this non-topic.

Posted by: Hillary Girl | September 20, 2008 1:35 PM

Well, It doesnt surprise me., at least he doesnt have a like Bush and Cheney, he also admits when he thinks he should change positions. He still scares me a bit though. He seems soo arrogent.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 1:32 PM

This New Agenda people's mistake is in thinking that a woman, just about any woman, will do.

NOW's mistake is in supporting Obama, not in NOT supporting Palin.

NOW should have abstained from endorsing any candidate, as they've done in the past. Palin is NOT an intelligent woman's choice. Palin stands for everything counter humane. From killing animals for sports to criminal wars. There's nothing that attracts me to that woman.

I'm not looking for ANY woman to be in power. I'm looking for A woman with the same values as mine, or at least as close at she can be to me. Hillary was much closer, Palin is 700 billion dollars away from me.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | September 20, 2008 1:31 PM

So..a woman who claims that she is prepared to step into the presidency because Russia can be seen from an island in Alaska is better qualified to be VP than Joe Biden..??

Come again..?? ARE YOU ALL STARK RAVING MAD??

Posted by: goodcake4 | September 20, 2008 1:31 PM

yee gads...these women are not Democrats..not in the least..they can't be and support rapture ready Palin and her sidekick .. John McCain..

This group is surprised at the NOW endorsement of Obama..get real..ask Lady Rothschild how much her family has profitted from the economic disaster on Wall Street...good gracious people can be so stupid..

Posted by: goodcake4 | September 20, 2008 1:28 PM


.
"NOW has previously endorsed at the presidential level only four times..."

Yes and they were ALL LEFT-WING D-CRATS!!!
So why is it surprising that NOW rejects Palin? After all, isn't being an ultra-liberal more important than being a woman?

/

Posted by: ALEX H. | September 20, 2008 1:28 PM

LIPSTICK VS. LIP SERVICE

MCCAIN PUT PALIN ON HIS TICKET, TO MAKE HISTORY
OBAMA PULLED OFF A LOT TO KEEP HILLARY OFF HIS

MCCAIN = LIPSTICK
(REAL MERIT SYSTEM, WOMEN ARE TRULY EQUAL)

OBAMA = LIP SERVICE
(PATRONIZES PATERNALLY, MARGINALIZES WOMEN)

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 1:27 PM

CRY BITHES CRY. THEY ARE DISHONEST,DISLOYAL, UNRELIABLE WITH RACE ISSUES LIKE H.CLINTON. IN OTHER WORDS TYPICAL AMERICAN WOMEN. FOR MOST OF AMERICA IS 1960s !

Posted by: Dick | September 20, 2008 1:27 PM

LIPSTICK VS LIP SERVICE -- HOW MCCAIN, OBAMA PAY WOMEN

:::: Obama's women earn 0.83/dollar compared to his men ::::
:::: McCain's women earn $1.04/dollar compared to his men ::::

How Team Obama Pays Women
By Deroy Murdock

‘Now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day’s work,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said August 28 in his convention acceptance speech. He told the crowd in Denver: “I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.”...

Obama’s commitment to federally mandated pay equity stretches from the Rockies to Wall Street and beyond. And yet it seems to have eluded his United States Senate office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that Obama pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.

...Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397. Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.

Why this disparity? One reason may be the underrepresentation of women among Obama’s highest-compensated employees. Of Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.

On average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign website condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1. In spite of this 17-cent gap between Obama’s rhetoric and reality, he chose to chide GOP presidential contender John McCain on this issue.

...McCain’s payment patterns are the stuff of feminist dreams.

McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.

On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, ceteris paribus, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.

more at: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmEzMTZmNTk5MDI0NTZmNjUwMjllN2ZlZTc0MWFmYzY=

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 1:26 PM

Lip service versus real equality, that is what Barack Obama offers women. Patronizing, marginalized roles in which he offers pandering protections of abortion and low-class worker protections and wage equality legalisms in exchange for votes in a sexist environment where women are treated as second class, below-professional level material.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 20, 2008 1:24 PM

Oh, no. Such misguided women who still are carrying the Hillary platform as "any woman platform." I have yet to see prominent Repubs such as Senator Kay Bailey, Sen. Dole, Collins etc. come out to support Palin. It is because these women don't know her and don't seem to like her and will not hop unto the MCPAIN train wreck. They do not want their legacies to be tarnished...McCain has better wake up and realized he has been sold a bag of fluff from the (banana) republic of Alaska. Taking your relatives to care for your children smacks of elitism; if they could only afford au pairs for each of them. Poor Bristol needs a Mom more than ever......

Posted by: Pamela McGregor | September 20, 2008 1:24 PM

Can we stop calling these women Hillary supporters? If they were Hillary supporters they would be following her request and supporting Obama! They are tools of the republican machine and are seeking to elect a anti-choice president who will appoint an anti-choice supreme court. They are so elitist as to not care what McCain will do to senior women who depend on Social Security and Medicare. The New Agenda is anti-women.

Posted by: R. in Colorado | September 20, 2008 1:23 PM

No Orgasms for Women,
must think they will
be able to push obama around. After seeing how he trashed the clintons, I would have
to say. no. silly rabbits, tricks are for men.

Posted by: usa3 | September 20, 2008 1:20 PM

Muslim Father

A Marxist Mother

A Racist Pastor

A Terrorist Friend

A Jailed Realtor

A Racist Wife

Did Drugs

Sold Drugs

And you are looking at the issues this guy is presenting???

What about his character???

His judgement.

His choice of friends.

My God you people are so blind to all of this.

If he was my daughters husband I would seriously be worried for my daughter.

I wouldn't let my kids hang with someone like him.

Racists, criminals, shady people.

These are people we stay away from and all of you creaming in your pants over him.

You should all be ashamed.

This is not someone I want my kids to look up to.

If his name was Barrack Hussain Obama as it is but he was olive skinned, would you still be voting for him???

I don't think so.

Wake up people and smell the manure.

It's not the issues, it's the man.

Obama is not the man to be president.

This has become a joke.

Posted by: junglejim123 | September 20, 2008 1:18 PM

It just hilights
how the democrats are a crazy
colition of groups
that are basically
at odds with each other,
which is why nothing
ever gets accomplished.
health care? no....
Labor Laws? no...
Gun Laws? no...
a vote for obama is
a vote for no change'
no change no change.
Nobama

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 20, 2008 1:18 PM

In the 80's the SF Bay Area had a very funny political theater group called the Plutonium Players and they put on a play called "Ladies Against Women."

These "Ladies" including an actual "Lady" Baroness Lynn de Rothschild, remind me very much of the Ladies Against Women and of Phyllis Schafly, the premier real-world lady against women.

They need to turn in their F cards if they vote for McCain. He's an adulterer who is against equality for women, against equal pay for women, against women's right to control their own bodies. All he has is a uterus on his ticket. That's NOT good enough.

Posted by: CalGal | September 20, 2008 1:16 PM

Thanks for the update on these Hillary dead enders. I'm going to put this article in my cat litter box where it belongs.

These women have long since ceased being relevant and would probably strip naked and run through Times Square if they thought the media would cover it.

Nobody gives a hoot what they think.

So they want to vote for Mr. Hothead and Ms. Emptyhead?

There's the voting booth..buh-bye.

Posted by: DW | September 20, 2008 1:16 PM

I think Hillary may have very mixed feelings on these supporters, if she is not outright disappointed. Did they really want Hillary to be president or they are so bitterly wanted any woman to be close to the presidency.

Posted by: AHernandez | September 20, 2008 1:13 PM

I must agree! This isn't even news worthy.
People focus so deeplu on the issue of "not getting their way" resulting in choas and unworthy focusses such as this. Obama is the womens choice! Not Palin. The Hillary issue is OVER!!!!!!!!! Focus on the issues and don't insist on going off track with this garbage. I,as a 53 yr old woman, am so tired of being raped and pileged for the past 8-yrs to the point that I, like most, if not all middle class citizens, cannot survive in todays economy. Hard work is not paying off as it's fruits are taken away by the republican's greed, lies and power- mongering. WE NEED CHANGE!!!!! WE NEED EQUALITY. WE NEED Obama/Biden. AMEN!!!

Posted by: LKM | September 20, 2008 1:07 PM

Sounds like this group was co-opted by Republican operatives much like they tried to do with the Sierra Club in the 1990s. Palin is the anti-woman - against choice, against equal pay for women, and against enforcement for crimes against women. These Republican dirty tricks are getting quite predictable and tiresome.

Posted by: Mary | September 20, 2008 1:06 PM

30 women? This constitutes news? Franke-Ruta must have nothing to do today. Get a life and report on the real news!

Posted by: texas vote | September 20, 2008 1:02 PM

I'm amazed by these few women who care more about anatomy than policy. If they like *anything* that Hillary Clinton stood for, then backing McCain-Palin is silly.

Posted by: Rich | September 20, 2008 12:55 PM

This is what happens when a group that calls itself a women's group is actually a front for getting woman elected.

JakeD comment indicates to me that more likely than not this is a political activity of the Mccain campaign. There are Clinton voters who are women who are in McCain's camp but they were there before Palin. It is these women who are speaking and that has nothing to do with the women's movement and everything to do with the standard Republican technique of dissembling,

Sort of the same thing as the English baroness who is voting for McCain because Obama is an elitist.


Posted by: ronnn | September 20, 2008 12:50 PM

Puzzling? It let's you know JUST how bad women think Palin is. in one week, Obama has seen his support in women jump 21% because of Palin. Obama is now polling among women better than both Hillary AND Bill. Amazing that Palin is anti-woman. Fortunately, women are much smarter than Palin.

Posted by: Scy | September 20, 2008 12:45 PM

When you refer to New Agenda as non-partisan, that seems rather credulous given that you know nothing about them except a press release. Their website has no identification information and they kept the registration information in their domain name listing private. My educated guess is that they are a front for the RNC

Posted by: elliottg | September 20, 2008 12:37 PM

Why is this even news? The media is so obsessed with the post-Clinton soap opera.

Had anyone ever heard of Lady Rothschild before she came out to endorse McCain?

I just don't get it.

Posted by: Rich Cain | September 20, 2008 12:32 PM

And who said no pro-choice women would ever vote for Palin?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 12:26 PM

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