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New Realities Will Scuttle Campaigns' Best-Laid Plans


Trader Jason Weisberg looks down on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Sept. 22, 2008. (Richard Drew/Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
The next president will take the oath of office Jan. 20 with hands tied. Abroad and at home, the agenda for John McCain and Barack Obama has now been defined, and it is far more daunting than either imagined when the campaign began.

Abroad are two wars of uncertain future, conflicts to be won or wound down in a way that brings stability to those regions while retaining public confidence in the next commander in chief. At home, the cost and complexities of resolving the economic crisis have put the government on a new footing and are likely to sharply limit the next president's domestic maneuvering room.

Presidential campaigns are exercises in big dreams and grand ambitions. This campaign has turned into a case of watching those ambitions chipped away by events. McCain or Obama will inherit a mess by any definition and will have to spend the first year of his presidency, at least, consumed with these problems.

There are now questions that both candidates should be asked in the upcoming debates about how their thinking and agendas have been affected by these events, how this may shape or reshape the way they put a government together, how it may change their priorities and how they might use the situation to enhance prospects for bipartisan governance.

McCain and Obama are more than bystanders as Congress and the Bush administration move this week toward enacting some version of the proposed $700 billion plan to rescue the nation's -- actually the world's -- financial system. But they don't quite have a seat at the table for decisions that will affect them far more than they will President Bush.

What has played out on the campaign trail over the past week is a kind of kabuki dance by the candidates. They have tried to stay abreast of events and offer public demonstrations of how they might deal with such a crisis if they were actually president, all in an effort to show they have stuff that the public is looking for in a new leader.

They have had few good options politically. McCain zigged and zagged last week, on the state of the economy, on the AIG bailout, on more regulation versus a history of less regulation. He issued a rescue blueprint of his own as Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson was forging ahead with something more audacious.

McCain became the angry populist, railing against greed on Wall Street and calling for heads to roll in Washington -- or at least one head, that of SEC Chairman Chris Cox. McCain's critics pounced on him for rash behavior while supporters described him as strong and decisive.

Obama adopted a different approach. According to one of his economic advisers, Obama delayed issuing a rescue plan of his own at the request of Paulson. He held a highly visible meeting with a battery of economic advisers, but over the weekend he was restrained in either fully endorsing or criticizing what the administration was doing. His critics called him tentative, indecisive and political. His supporters said he showed calm and good judgment.

The crisis has played to the Democrats' natural advantages, but how voters are marking their scorecards on the leadership of the two candidates is anybody's guess in such an environment. The upcoming debates should provide more clarity on that question.

There are plenty of questions for the candidates now that go beyond whether they support or oppose the administration's rescue plan. After all, in just 43 days, one of them will be starting to put together a new administration. This is not idle campaign rhetoric anymore. Assertions by either that they know how to do this are not enough.

In coming days, both are likely to provide more details about dealing with the financial mess, and in particular the kind of oversight and regulation each envisions in a new system. But much more remains for inquiry.

Obama has argued that what ails the economy needs far more than a financial system rescue plan, that ordinary Americans need help from the strain of job losses, threats of foreclosures and the increased costs of gasoline, home heating oil, medical care and college tuition.

He wants to cut taxes on the middle class and raise them on the wealthy. He wants to spend around $100 billion a year on a health-care plan. He has penciled in $15 billion a year for investment in alternative energy. He says he has a fiscally responsible way to do this, but in light of what's happened recently, he needs to be pushed harder to prove it.

McCain's domestic agenda includes tax cuts, tax and market incentives for expanding health-care coverage, an all-of-the-above approach to energy independence. He too must be pressed to explain how he can pay for this, whether he can accomplish what he claims.

McCain, too, should be asked to explain how his proposal to move the political affairs office out of the White House into the Republican National Committee represents anything other than a symbolic act. Does he mean there will be no one in the White House who has any contact with party officials at the RNC?

Bigger questions include staffing the next administration. The choice of a Treasury secretary has now become far more significant than ever, given the likely powers that will be invested in that person under the bailout plan. What checks might McCain or Obama put on that person through the creation of an overall economic team? What qualities are now needed in a Treasury secretary?

The same goes for the departments of Defense and State. Who are the models for Obama and McCain as they weigh these choices? What kind of experience, history, ideology and vision are they seeking to implement their stated policies in Iraq, to deal with the changing and increasingly dangerous situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan and to repair relations elsewhere?

The default position of the tone of the campaign has been pettiness and small-mindedness, lipstick and Britney. Events, however, keep reminding voters that these are extraordinary times. Will the candidates rise to meet those challenges, not just when one of them takes the oath next January, but in the final weeks of this incredible campaign?

Posted at 1:08 PM ET on Sep 22, 2008  | Category:  Dan Balz's Take
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AsperGirl,

You'd like new windows for your house...Then get a job and pay for the windows for your house. That's not a NEED, that's a WANT. I can't sell my car to pay for your windows, because I like MOST Americans have a loan on my car and wouldn't come away with any money after selling it. Besides, if you started working again, your "extra $30k" in "spending money" would more than pay for your windows that you WANT.

People NEED healthcare, people NEED to keep the lights on so their family can stay warm in the winter.

How is it fair that a couple that has enough money to afford to buy a house gets a tax break for having that house, but the couple that can't afford the house doesn't get a break because they can't afford it?

I never said I wanted a free ride on the backs of others. Even with a tax cut, I'll still be paying quite a bit in taxes.

I'm not working hard enough because I don't bring in $250k/yr? So the teacher that taught your kids in school wasn't working hard enough? The people that built your home and cars aren't working hard enough? The people that work in the grocery stores that you shop at aren't working hard enough? The waitress at your favorite restaurant that you tip a measly $2.50 to isn't working hard enough? Or what about the workers making the paints and canvas for your precious oil painting hobby - they aren't working hard enough?

I'm sorry but not everybody can be a doctor or a lawyer. Even if they could, who's gonna make your burger when you don't feel like cooking?

To think that these middle- and lower-income people aren't "contributing" to society because they don't pay as much taxes is just absurd.

What's also absurd is to think that all Obama supporters are looking for a free ride. What Obama supporters like myself ARE looking for is a way to make sure someone like my disabled father with some serious medical conditions who is now ineligible for private healthcare will still be able to get his medications and see his doctors should my mother ever lose her job and insurance. Oh yeah, they pay taxes too, by the way.

Aspergirl, I do think about ME quite often, and I don't expect others to "carry" me. It bothers the crap out of me to see people on welfare living off of MY tax dollars because they don't feel like working.

I get by. I support my family as best I can. I'm not searching for handouts. I don't feel entitled to the earnings of others. I'm not asking you to pick up my entire tax burden. I'm asking for you to pitch in and help out your fellow countrymen. What you don't seem to understand is that we're all interdependent - from wealthier people than yourself all the way down to the minimum-wage Hispanic girl scrubbing the toilets at your husband's office.

I know it's hard for you to understand because you're not feeling as much pressure as those of us that earn less than you, and honestly I think you're a little "disconnected" from the REAL America, just like McCain and his 7 houses and 13 cars.

If people cared about others even 1/10th as much as they care about themselves, this would be a much better country.

Posted by: jasonh | September 23, 2008 1:05 PM

I feel sorry for either candidate.
The loser may well be the lucky one here.

Frankly, a pox on all of those who call either of the candidates names or question their credentials to run.

This is a really stupid time for partisanship. We should all stop arguing, vote for the candidate of our choice and then pitch in with everything we have to assist whoever wins with all our resources, good wishes and prayers. They will need every bit of that.

Posted by: Mike Bennion | September 23, 2008 11:25 AM

Since McCaint is the new "regulator" and the "cleaner" of the Washington Lobbyist Drugdealers....he should start by getting rid of these first....

AIG - Wayne Berman, National Finance Committee Co-Chair

Merrill Lynch - Charlie Black, McCain Campaign Senior Adviser

Merrill Lynch - Judy Black, Women for McCain Steering Committee

Merrill Lynch - Daniel Crippen, Senior Policy Adviser

Merrill Lynch - James Hyland, Virginia Steering Committee

Merrill Lynch - Peter Madigan, fundraiser

Merrill Lynch - Steve Phillips, fundraiser

Lehman Brothers - Charlie Black, McCain Campaign Senior Adviser

Lehman Brothers - Vicki Hart, Women for McCain Steering Committee

Bank of America - David Crane, Senior Policy Adviser

Fannie Mae - Kirsten Chadwick, fundraiser, Women for McCain Steering Committee

Fannie Mae - Arthur Culvahouse, head of McCain V-P search

Fannie Mae - Alison H. McSlarrow, Women for McCain Steering Committee

Fannie Mae - Aquiles Suarez, Economic Adviser

Freddie Mac - Juleanna Glover Weiss, Women for McCain Steering Committee

Cindy Fiorina- Fired Exec at Hewlett Packard with a 27 million dollar golden parachute

Rick Davis - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Lobbyist who received 30,000 a month...just because he was in McCaints Campaign in 2007....

...One who live in 7 glass mansions should not throw golden stones.....

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 23, 2008 8:37 AM

"The top 10 percent of wage earners already pay 70 percent of U.S. taxes. The bottom 50 percent already pays less than 4 percent of U.S. taxes. The bottom 30 percent of wage earners pay no taxes at all."

That is true. It is also true to say that the top 10 percent pay on average 15% tax on ALL OF THEIR INCOME (roughly quoting Warren Buffet here) while the middle class pays more than 20% of their income. Is it "fair" that a middle class person pays more of their income to taxes than someone who is wealthy? Buffet was actually stating that he did not think it was fair that he paid less in tax than his secretary (because he earned money in many interesting ways that are not taxed as income though that is what it actually is).

There is a story in the Bible about this sort of "generous" rich person. Jesus embraced the poor person who had given little (all they had) rather than the rich man who had given much compared to the poor person(but relatively little in comparison to his wealth).

Posted by: podocarp | September 23, 2008 1:26 AM

This article details the complex challenges that will confront the next President. How can anyone think of voting for a befuddled and vindictive old Washington insider who already displays many of the early symptoms of Alzheimer's disease? And with a naive and untested Vice President to boot? To quote Repulican Senator Chuck Hagel: "She got her first passport a year ago! There's nothing to say."

Posted by: HughBriss | September 23, 2008 12:14 AM

Hate to say "I TRIED to tell you so", But;

I did TRY!

The Executive Branch did not suddenly have a World of issues to deal with, IT WILL ALWAYS, have old and new Conflicts, Problems, and Crises' to deal with.

Only now, thanks to the Scorched Earth Politics of the Dimocrats, combined with the Bush-Whacked Executive Office's BLUNDERING IDIOCIES(See Bail-Out of Lenders who destroyed all their Debtors and forced "Bad Paper" by their own draconian measures), a Hard Job has become IMPOSSIBLE for One man, and very VERY Hard, for even two.

Especially when half of either Ticket, is condemned to have an IDIOTIC Congressional Clown(Or TWO), on it!

I was calling for the RepubliCan'ts, to become the RepubliCans, by TEAMING UP!

ALL the Candidates could have contributed, with their own strengths.

Rally the troops GOPbers!

Rudy McRomsonnedo is STILL Doable!

LOL! Group up all the Dim Candidates, and you have created a Law Office/Legal Team! :-D

Posted by: SAINT-The | September 23, 2008 12:12 AM

"I don't need the hand-outs . I will be one of those that won't get any tax breaks from Obama's plan."

"So stop that "don't expect handouts" lecture. Its your arrogance that thinks everyone is expecting a handout. The notion that all people will win the lottery of life is fantasy."

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 10:48

If the things I said don't apply to you, don't jump into the discussion. What i said was relevant to the guy I was addressing.

Unless you have some point about why you think I should pay your share of taxes, like that guy did, you have no point.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 23, 2008 12:05 AM

"aspergirl needs to take a deep breath, if she does not want to be part of the society she can leave it. I'm glad she was in the military and my taxes paid her salary and educational benefits for her. I'm glad my taxes paid for the infrastructure that allowed her to attend school, and my taxes paid for her schooling either directly (state college) or indirectly (tax exempt private school. I'm also glad that my taxes go to support other folks kids now so they can get an education, have a job, and pay for my pension."

"Your self- centeredness is the heart of the neocon bs that is slowly destroying this great country that I also bootstrapped myself up in."

"If you dont want to be a part of the society just leave, go be irresponsible somewhere else."

Posted by: chet | September 22, 2008 11:09 PM

Now, chet, take your stupid rant and explain what that has to do with explaining why I should pay not only my own taxes, but bear the burden of low-class, middle-class Obama supporters, too?

How is it self-centered to ask that those who make less than $250K also pay taxes? How is it selfish to refuse to shoulder the entire burden of tax while the lower-middle class pays none and the middle class pays hardly any?

The top 10 percent of wage earners already pay 70 percent of U.S. taxes. The bottom 50 percent already pays less than 4 percent of U.S. taxes. The bottom 30 percent of wage earners pay no taxes at all.

How is it that Obama supporters call those in the top 10 percent "selfish" for not lifting the entire tax burden off the rest of Americans. It's "unpatriotic", "self-centered" and "selfish" for those who already pay most of the taxes in the U.S. to ask that those who use most of the roads, public works, libraries, schools and government benefits pay SOME taxes and don't get a totally free ride from the society to which they belong?

Your world, where it's selfish to want those who use society to contribute something -- anything -- to its support, plans to feed off the top ten percent who already support themselves and most of society.

You want to take it an extra distance, and say that those in the bottom 70 percent of wage earners pay almost nothing to support the society in which they live.

That's worse than communism. That's a welfare society.

Maybe it's selfish, but no, I don't want to support your free ride off a society if you don't even pay a share of your tax burden for. Who wants a nation of welfare moralists, who reason that they deserve support from those above? Able bodied people who don't feel, on social ethical grounds, that they have to fully support themselves or pay any taxes because those who make more can do it for them, can and should rot in a corner so long as they continue to feel that being dead weight is a choice.

Obama will bring back the welfare state, because that is exactly the mentality.

>>"I'm glad she was in the military and my taxes paid her salary and educational benefits for her."

Military people aren't getting charity. But you wouldn't understand the difference between serving in the military and receiving publicly funded charity, if you don't understand the value of supporting yourself versus demanding that other taxpayers pay your tax burden if they make more than you.

>>""If you dont want to be a part of the society just leave, go be irresponsible somewhere else."

By "be a part of society" you mean in Obama world not wanting to pay your share of taxes as well as my own. That's the role you conceive of as "my part" of society: supporting your tax burden for you, while your "part of society" is being supported for being a loser.

Obama tax philosophy: penalize the winners to pay the losers for being losers who can't even support themselves but don't qualify for other programs as they have no disability, etc.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 11:58 PM

McCain's popularist "solutions" are just the kind of "shoot from the hip" panicky reactions, similar to George "Mission Accomplished" Bush has when they are faced with a real crisis; a crisis which they created. McCain is absolutely clueless in how he is going to clear up this massive mess, with their long track record and concrete, unyielding ideology of unchecked deregulation (think Phil Gramm).

Phil Gramm said we're all imagining this crisis when he proclaimed us a nation of whiners. Remember that he was until recently McCain's key campaign adviser and chief lobbyist. Kind of make you think what judgement McCain has, not to mention his choice of a gun-toting, moose-hunting VP whose only experience of foreign policy was that she could see Russia from Alaska. Now McCain wants to blame Obama for all the mess he and his cronies created, less than 2 months after he accused Obama of being inexperienced and completely new to the Senate. McCain is having early signs of dementia, with such short term memory loss. McCain can now play the race card up his sleeve, and energize his Bubbas' support by having Palin put on lipsitck for her VP debates.

Posted by: Patriot | September 22, 2008 11:48 PM

mcccain says the economy is strong and no sooner are the words out of his mouth the economy crashes and that speaks for itself as to how out of touch mcccain is with the reality of these difficult economic times.He will fix nothing do nothing just more of the same so my vote will go to Obama he is smarter and has good judgement.

Posted by: sharon | September 22, 2008 11:46 PM

McCain is confusing Leadership with activity. Taking multiple positions on issues do not make you a good leader.

Flying off the handle before gathering all the facts is like playing black jack. Trowing enough crap on the wall and hoping some stick don't pass the leadership smell test.

Look at the situation, gather facts weigh your options then make a decision thats leadership.

Posted by: brock101 | September 22, 2008 11:26 PM

VOTE VOTE VOTE FOR OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLEAN | September 22, 2008 11:23 PM

"Yes we have a good combined income, yes I hate april 15th, but it is part of being an american and a part of american society."

Well said Chet !

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 11:11 PM

aspergirl needs to take a deep breath, if she does not want to be part of the society she can leave it. I'm glad she was in the military and my taxes paid her salary and educational benefits for her. I'm glad my taxes paid for the infrastructure that allowed her to attend school, and my taxes paid for her schooling either directly (state college) or indirectly (tax exempt private school. I'm also glad that my taxes go to support other folks kids now so they can get an education, have a job, and pay for my pension.

Your self- centeredness is the heart of the neocon bs that is slowly destroying this great country that I also bootstrapped myself up in.

Yes we have a good combined income, yes I hate april 15th, but it is part of being an american and a part of american society.

If you dont want to be a part of the society just leave, go be irresponsible somewhere else.

Posted by: chet | September 22, 2008 11:09 PM

Aspergirl thinks that it is because of her , common people get to enjoy parks, have the trash removed and get their kids to schools. Her argument is - "Don't tax me and I will let you use the roads,parks and schools, otherwise a plague on you !"

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 11:08 PM

AsperGirl
Tax cut for the upper class=good economics
Tax cut for the middle class=hand out??
Are you actually advocating that the middle class does not pay taxes at present? I must have missed that check box on my 1040.

Posted by: nobs | September 22, 2008 10:58 PM

And sitting on top of companies like Enron, and othe companies that do corporate fraud and steal regular people's money isn't called "own advancement". Nor is spiking stocks by peddling bogus information. The people that got rich that way weren't being ethical. AND they are NOT subsidising the honest , but poorer inner city school teacher who is doing some good to the society.

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 10:56 PM

AsperGirl wrote - "When it comes to income taxes, the redistribution of wealth concept involves taking money away from those who earn it and "redistributing" it to those who don't, using the tax system.It's better for you to stop looking to the government for handouts and expecting it to take money away from your better-off neighbor to "redistribute" his money to you."

I don't need the hand-outs . I will be one of those that won't get any tax breaks from Obama's plan.

So stop that "don't expect handouts" lecture. Its your arrogance that thinks everyone is expecting a handout. The notion that all people will win the lottery of life is fantasy. The some that don't , it is not entirely their fault too. To some that do, it is also not entirely their fault/deed too. So, the fact that taxes increase it a bit as incomes are in the higher bracket is not that big of deal. It helps the society - the same society that the super-rich also live and mingle.

It is the same arrogance that makes you think that your largesse is why a homeless person gets to walk in roads and gets shelter.

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 10:48 PM

AsperGirl, under Obama, your anecdotal couple that makes a combined $280K a year will not be taxed any more than they currently are. See this chart:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: nonagon | September 22, 2008 10:40 PM

McCain may move the furniture around on the deck, but it'll be the same Titanic

Posted by: get off the boat | September 22, 2008 10:38 PM

"AsperGirl calls it condescendingly "entitlement mentality" . No one's expecting a handout. But here's the text from Obama's speech -"

"In Washington, they call this the Ownership Society. But in our past there has been another term for it - Social Darwinism, every man and woman for him or herself. ..."

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 10:00

What you describe is a you're on your own society. That's a different subject than Obama's lower-middle-class people expecting to pay no taxes at all while making upper-middle-class people "fork over" some relief.

When it comes to income taxes, the redistribution of wealth concept involves taking money away from those who earn it and "redistributing" it to those who don't, using the tax system.

For someone to expect to use roads, government benefits, infrastructure, education, libraries and public goods and services, while paying no taxes because Obama will stick it to the upper-middle-class, that's a welfare mentality.

The payday and free ride that Obama supporters look forward to when it comes to tax changes, will never materialize. Especially with this $700 billion bailout.

Things are going to get harder for you, not easier, no matter who gets elected.

It's better for you to stop looking to the government for handouts and expecting it to take money away from your better-off neighbor to "redistribute" his money to you. (1) that's not going to happen, because the next president's hands are going to be tied regarding raising taxes a lot (or he will risk depression), and (2) it is better to plan for your own advancement than counting on some politician's promises of a handout, unless you enjoy having a dependent mentality.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 10:11 PM

AsperGirl calls it condescendingly "entitlement mentality" . No one's expecting a handout. But here's the text from Obama's speech -

"In Washington, they call this the Ownership Society. But in our past there has been another term for it - Social Darwinism, every man and woman for him or herself. It's a tempting idea, because it doesn't require much thought or ingenuity. It allows us to say to those whose health care or tuition may rise faster than they can afford - tough luck. It allows us to say to the Maytag workers who have lost their job - life isn't fair. It let's us say to the child born into poverty - pull yourself up by your bootstraps. And it is especially tempting because each of us believes that we will always be the winner in life's lottery, that we will be Donald Trump, or at least that we won't be the chump that he tells: "Your fired!"

But there a problem. It won't work. It ignores our history. It ignores the fact that it has been government research and investment that made the railways and the internet possible. It has been the creation of a massive middle class, through decent wages and benefits and public schools - that has allowed all of us to prosper. Our economic dominance has depended on individual initiative and belief in the free market; but it has also depended on our sense of mutual regard for each other, the idea that everybody has a stake in the country, that we're all in it together and everybody's got a shot at opportunity - that has produced our unrivaled political stability"

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 10:00 PM

McCain campaign lies....while whining about being called liars


"Sen. John McCain’s top campaign aides convened a conference call today to complain of being called "liars." They pressed the media to scrutinize specific elements of Sen. Barack Obama’s record."

"But the call was so rife with simple, often inexplicable misstatements of fact that it may have had the opposite effect: to deepen the perception, dangerous to McCain, that he and his aides have little regard for factual accuracy."

"The errors in McCain strategist Steve Schmidt’s charges against Obama and Sen. Joe Biden were particularly notable because they seemed unnecessary. Schmidt repeatedly gilded the lily: He exaggerated the Biden family's already problematic ties to the credit card industry; Obama’s embarrassing relationship with a 1960s radical; and an Obama supporter’s over-the-top attack on Sarah Palin when — in each case — the truth would have been damaging enough."

"Any time the Obama campaign is criticized at any level, the critics are immediately derided as liars," Schmidt told reporters.


But as he went on to list a series of stories he thought reporters should be writing about Obama and Biden, in almost every instance he got the details wrong."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13747.html


Read the piece for the details, but when the Politico's Ben Smith asked the McCain campaign for evidence for their assertions, this is the response he got:


Asked about the series of errors, McCain aides could not provide evidence to back up Schmidt’s assertions.


One McCain aide, Michael Goldfarb, said Politico was "quibbling with ridiculously small details when the basic things are completely right."


Another, Brian Rogers, responded more directly:

"You are in the tank," he e-mailed


Here's the mavericky "straight-talk" from McCain Rovebot campaign flunkie, Steve Schmidt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HabIoeqzL40
.

Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 22, 2008 9:57 PM

AsperGirl has been at it for many hours now posting bogus information.

Just because her household makes over $250000 and may not benefit from Obama's tax breaks, she's deemed it dangerous for everyone.

And she thinks there has been massive securities fraud (as opposed to bad capital management) in the market. Lol

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 9:48 PM

>>"AsperGirl, I didn't say I wanted YOUR money. I didn't say I wanted anybody's money.."

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 7:31 PM

You just want Obama to make people who make more than you pay all the taxes so you get all the public goods and services. You want your free ride on the pubilc back of others.

>>"I don't care that you worked oh so hard to get where you are. I work hard too."

You're not working hard enough to support yourself if you think Obama should force others to pay the entire cost of the society you benefit from.

>>"I just think you need to think about something. Your $30k in "spending money" is life or a cardboard box to some people. So stop thinking about ME ME ME and start paying attention to the world around you."

If you thought about ME ME ME more, looking to yourself to support your needs, you would be more self reliant and less dependent on expecting others to carry you.

>>"It's that sense of entitlement that's bringing this country to it's knees."

Like you being entitled to the earnings of others?

>>"Times are tough, I could use some relief."

Me too. I really want to get new windows for my house. Why don't you sell your car and pay for them for me?

Look, I did all that, went through the military, worked through college, etc. with 2 kids.

That's how you get ahead, not counting on the handouts of the government or feeling entitled to what you think others owe you because you're down. That's an "entitlement mentality". The democrats train their lower classes to a mentality that keeps them on the plantation of economic dependency and social stagnation, and they always have.

Counting on a politician like Obama to make some handouts happen for you, is a welfare mentality that only cripples you and keeps you dependent. Count on yourself, make a plan on how to make your own dreams happen, and count on yourself to execute that plan.

That's the difference from those who are poor and dependent and those who are not.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 9:00 PM

For those talking about oil prices, the two largest factors are the relative strength of the US dollar and basic supply and demand issues. On the dollar, it is the massive trade deficit and money printing Wall St. bailouts engineered by Republicans (purportedly in favor of "free markets" but only when it means the rich can take money from everyone else, otherwise they prefer socialism for the rich which means essentially the same thing, taking tax payer money, from everyone else, and giving it to the fraudsters who are "too big to fail"). The result is massive money printing which is the direct cause of inflation which then leads to higher oil prices (because the US imports so much oil). So that is a gift from Bush and neoliberal school to all Americans.

On the supply and demand, China is up 11% in August, India is up, the US is down but growth in US consumption is becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the global growth in supply. So even if the US stops growing oil consumption, other countries are rapidly filling that void. With production down at the largest oil fields in the world and new finds not coming in at a rate sufficient to replace the loss in production, the long term trend is for higher prices (regardless of production cost since there will eventually be excess demand for a short supply). Anyway you look at it, this puts the American suburban, SUV driving lifestyle on the block (probably to be purchased by the Chinese who were financing all of this debt acquisition in the first place).

So the legacy of the Bush years will be the sale of US sovereignty to oil producing countries and the Chinese (the people who still MAKE things). What you are seeing is the end of the "finance only" economy. You still have to be able to create value and America at large seems to have completely forgotten this key CAPITALIST premise.

Posted by: podocarp | September 22, 2008 8:48 PM

"Times are tough, I could use some relief. When I'm doing well, I have no problems forking over a few extra bucks so that others might get a little relief. As it is I donate to charity, I pay extra on my electric bill every month to help needy families keep their lights on."

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 7:31 PM

It's not my problem whether you need relief or not. Really. If you don't want to pay any taxes at all, expecting everyone who makes more than you to pay for roads, infrastructure, education and government, then you're longing for a payday at someone else's expense. Now I'm telling you that professional couples who make enough money will just revert to one-person households rather than pay exorbitant taxes and take only a little of that second professional salary home.

If Obama imposes his tax regime, the number of second-income professional households will tank, the economy will contract even more, and there will be a really bad time for people like you, not me.

It makes no difference what your emotional reaction to that will be, if you think that's selfish and unfair. You can sit around and believe that those two-professional household who revert to a one-income income household due to the draconian taxes Obama imposes are uncool because they're unwilling to "fork over" some relief to others, but it doesn't change the reality. The reality is that you can't force people to work to support you and you have no right to demand that.

If and when Obama gets elected and imposes the taxes he promises, you will not get your payday, or "relief". The economy will get a lot worse, really quickly, and you're going to suffer.

Now if you set aside the bullcrap that the corrupt media and the democrats have been feeding America, and focus on reality, the reality is that the stiff rise in upper income prosperity is mostly due to the rise of two-professional households and as the two-professional individuals rise professionally into senior professional levels. Within one generation, America has gone from being a country where one professional supported a family to a country where many professional households consist of 2 doctors, 2 lawyers, or 2 engineers. That growth in upper class prosperity is not due to the corruption of old white men or the stealing from the poor. It is from the advancement of a women and minorities' professional class.

This is not the 1950's. The two-income society we live in developed under the present tax regime. We will revert very quickly to a predominantly one-income society in the tax range he's targeting, if Obama imposes the taxes he talks about. The economy will contract dramatically and the recession will tip into depression.

The media and academics act like they don't understand why the economy grows and revenue increases when they cut taxes. But they do. They're just not honest with the masses. The tax cuts provided a lot of incentives for one-income households to turn into two-income households and Obama's tax hikes will reverse the trend (with the attendant economy contraction).

Whether or not you think it's fair or unfair, for people to choose to not work when taxes go up, i.e. not "fork over" their earnings to pay your share of the tax burden, I think it's unfair of you to try to force people to "fork over" charity. You will only be voting for a depression if Obama gets elected. You can feel whatever emotions you want to feel.

Communists never understood that interfering with ownership backfires because it removes the incentive to work.

"Fork over". Why don't you earn enough to pay your share of taxes before resorting to using taxation to make other people pay for all the roads, education, government and public services while you get a free ride?

Why don't you make enough to pay your own share?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 8:46 PM

GOPNAZI:

John McCain only "owns" one American-made car.

CBB:

It's not OK to lie.

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 8:42 PM

............how many cars does Old Wrinkly White Dude own? ...........how many homes? ............. Uuuuuuuuuuu....... the economy is fundamentally sound??????????

Posted by: GOPNAZI | September 22, 2008 8:41 PM

When did it become ok to lie?

Posted by: CBB | September 22, 2008 8:40 PM

KMichaels - Why do always resort to being such an a$$? Your incessant name calling makes you the idiot. Do you really believe that you are better than other people? We are all Americans...these are fellow Americans of your's that you are spewing this venom at. Such hatred...it's really a shame.

Posted by: HESS | September 22, 2008 8:25 PM

All you folks who voted for the shrub, not once but twice and berated "those liberals" per dittohead mantra, take look at how your boys' really screwed things up.

The repug party has NO credibility. They have absolutely ruined this country in just 8 short years under HalliBush, Inc. And this was after having the country handed to 'em in tip-top shape.

Oh yeah, save the hysterical shriekings of various snake handling, tent-revivalists who complained about "morals"... somehow, these fools have gained prominence in that repugnant party...

What about the status of our leaderships "morals" now?

Posted by: Jaxon1 | September 22, 2008 8:10 PM

In 6-weeks it will be, President-Elect Barack Obama.
Mankind will rejoice.

Posted by: Bob From an Elite State | September 22, 2008 8:08 PM

If McCain is about 'change', why doesn't he start by FIRING all the SCUM NEOCONS he has surrounded himself with. Sending the bimbo 2 days after nominating her to kiss AIPAC's BUTT isn't change.

Honor, my arse.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 8:04 PM

The economy is just the result of long term profit taking in this current trickle down system.By beginning the war on Iraq and subsequent occupation, Bush set the stage for each and every smaller country (with oil or other coveted resources) to be very very scared. Whether the leaders are fascists (Iran) or communist or just dictators, each of these smaller powers now have a very compelling reason to race for nuclear deterrence and/or a coalition with other countries fearing US aggression. The start of the war on Iraq was either a calculated design to consolidate the repubs power here and siphon lots of tax money into oil and private military contractors (most of the deficit has ended up in the pockets of these corporations main shareholders,) or it was a massive lack of foresight to anticipate the escalation of world tensions.
Vote McCain and continue the escalation of world warfare and tension, and see the fall of the US economy and perhaps the extinction of the middle class.

Posted by: rjbunny | September 22, 2008 7:55 PM

wardropper:

Jon who?

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 7:54 PM

If you and your wife together earn more than $260,000, after deductions, and you are still worried about taxes, you need to spend more on therapy. Your current therapists are cheating you!

Posted by: thw2001 | September 22, 2008 7:50 PM

Shakespeare ... wow Sarah Palin as Lady McBeth ... "Out darn spot ..." Tell me how we might cast the First Dude?

Posted by: For the Record | September 22, 2008 7:47 PM

We/Republicans need AsperGirl and JadeD on the campaign trail

Posted by: For the Record | September 22, 2008 7:44 PM

It would be stupid to ignore the timing of the revelation of this catastrophe.

It provides the perfect smoke-screen for Palin to become Lady MacBeth.

And no, I don't believe in coincidences.
Not where the Republican Party is concerned.

Posted by: wardropper | September 22, 2008 7:44 PM

700 Billion (at least) to bail out the big, smart, unregulated financiers, all on the taxpayers backs.

Why don't we have 700 billion to keep home foreclosings at bay?

Or 700 billion for the deteriorating infrastructure of the nation's roads and bridges?

Or 700 billion for national health care?

Or 700 billion for any other perceived national need?

Let's hope that there are huge penalties metted out for these companies that are "too big to fail" and they do not just take the money. We have had enough of that with the Bush administration.

How else will Bush screw up in the last 120 days?

Posted by: keenobserver | September 22, 2008 7:43 PM

AsperGirl is Sarah Palin

Posted by: For the Record | September 22, 2008 7:41 PM

This has got to be stupidest set of comments I have every read.

Posted by: beut_d | September 22, 2008 7:37 PM

Watch Jon Stewart interviewing Tony Blair on the Daily Show.
It's dynamite.
It shows that the naive, blinkered, and just-too-easily brainwashed bigot is to be found outside Texas too.

Stewart's pauses and laughs are deadly accurate, and you will graduate with a doctorate in the exploitation of simple-mindedness by merely watching this episode once.

Posted by: wardropper | September 22, 2008 7:36 PM

LOL!

Poll: Barack Obama could lose six percentage points on election day for being black

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/22/2008-09-22_poll_barack_obama_could_lose_six_percent.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 7:34 PM

AsperGirl, I didn't say I wanted YOUR money. I didn't say I wanted anybody's money. I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm going to get some crazy windfall that'll make everything better.

I don't care that you worked oh so hard to get where you are. I work hard too.

I just think you need to think about something. Your $30k in "spending money" is life or a cardboard box to some people. So stop thinking about ME ME ME and start paying attention to the world around you.

It's that sense of entitlement that's bringing this country to it's knees.

Times are tough, I could use some relief. When I'm doing well, I have no problems forking over a few extra bucks so that others might get a little relief. As it is I donate to charity, I pay extra on my electric bill every month to help needy families keep their lights on.

It's called karma. Maybe you should put down the latte and think about it.

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 7:31 PM

Wow. Who let the knuckle draggers and mouth breathers out? I thought their running McCoot and the Moose Girl was the perfect punch line to eight years of abject failure. Now they want us to listen to more of their purile snarling? Sorry, guys. You need to go back to high school. And, please, try to graduate this time.

Posted by: cmk | September 22, 2008 7:31 PM

"Reality Scuttles Best-Laid Plans"?

Oh yeah?
And whose reality would that be?
And just what color is this particular false flag???

How "convenient" . . . .
again . . . . . .

Posted by: wardropper | September 22, 2008 7:29 PM

Real Brother here.

The Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians are something else.

You have control of the White House for eight years, you mess up the economy with this DUMB Iraq War and you have an Idiot running for your Party who continues to talk about "The Surge" when all indications are that the unmanned drone planes were responsible for the down turn of the violence and yet you have the nerve to claim that Democrats and Obama will "take your freakin' money" and give it to people who aren't irresponsible and haven't over extended on sub prime loans and invested in the stock market?

So you are suggesting that you DESERVE the money that YOU LOST?

You should be rewarded for your STUPIDITY?

And you are positive that the Conservative who has lived by a trickle down hands off Govt. out free market economy for 30 years is now going to make sure that you get Govt. support for your excesses?

I don't know if you Idiots are stupid or just plain DUMB.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 22, 2008 7:17 PM

***If he enacts the taxes he promises, the number of 2-income professional couples who comprise the majority of upper-middle-class households right now, would drop like a rock as the second spouse stays home. The economy would contract at least another five percent for that reason alone.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 5:27 PM***

So what? Needs to contract anyway. Too much consumption, entitlement and me now and everything else second.

Posted by: So What? | September 22, 2008 7:16 PM

dcpsychic:

How about you just post the e-mail address here instead?

AsperGirl:

Looks like I can leave this thread in your good hands ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 7:16 PM

Someone please put Aspergirl out of her misery.

Posted by: h1000 | September 22, 2008 7:16 PM

Make the bailed-out companies begin to act as State charters again, to benefit the American people again, not the rich few!


America must take away the PERSONHOOD CLAIM OF COPORATIONS!


The government bail-out should only happen along with the removal of the personhood claim of corporations!

Posted by: Companys are not People | September 22, 2008 7:15 PM

"I make $46k and my wife makes $14k. All the tax talk is around the MIDDLE CLASS, which we are. I personally could use a little tax relief. As it is, I haven't had any taxes taken out of my checks this year, just so I could keep afloat."

"I'm glad your husband makes enough for you to "goof off" all day. For the rest of us, we've got bills to pay."

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 6:47 PM

And I worked to get where I can be comfortable. Was in the military to get educational benefits, worked my way through school with jobs, scholarships and reserve duty. I never had a nice thing, not even nice clothes, for years and years and years.

I certainly did not expect that some social welfare program or "transfer of wealth" tax scheme would bleed others to give to me.

While you gamble on your belief that your socialist candidate will game the system for you and bleed others to support your tax burden, you would be better off planning to achieve your own economic advancement, not hoping the government will serve you with the wealth others earn or own.

Obama's going to raise those taxes, the number of two-income households will drop, the economy will contract at least 5 pct, and revenues will plummet, and you will never get your unearned windfall.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 7:07 PM

"I make $46k and my wife makes $14k. All the tax talk is around the MIDDLE CLASS, which we are. I personally could use a little tax relief. As it is, I haven't had any taxes taken out of my checks this year, just so I could keep afloat."

"I'm glad your husband makes enough for you to "goof off" all day. For the rest of us, we've got bills to pay."

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 6:47 PM

And I worked to get where I can be comfortable. Was in the military to get educational benefits, worked my way through school with jobs, scholarships and reserve duty. I never had a nice thing, not even nice clothes, for years and years and years.

I certainly did not expect that some social welfare program or "transfer of wealth" tax scheme would bleed others to give to me.

While you gamble on your belief that your socialist candidate will game the system for you and bleed others to support your tax burden, you would be better off planning to achieve your own economic advancement, not hoping the government will serve you with the wealth others earn or own.

Obama's going to raise those taxes, the number of two-income households will drop, the economy will contract at least 5 pct, and revenues will plummet, and you will never get your unearned windfall.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 7:07 PM

"I make $46k and my wife makes $14k. All the tax talk is around the MIDDLE CLASS, which we are. I personally could use a little tax relief. As it is, I haven't had any taxes taken out of my checks this year, just so I could keep afloat. I'm glad your husband makes enough for you to "goof off" all day. For the rest of us, we've got bills to pay."

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 6:47 PM

It's not my job to support you. So it's a completely rational choice on my part, and one I'm entitled to make, that I will stop working if the tax code makes it not worth my while to work.

So while you think it's my responsibility to work, so a lot of that money can go to pay for the roads, infrastructure, government and education that you and your family use, I can just choose to not work and support your tax burden.

I don't owe you anything and you can't make me work to pay the taxes you don't feel like you owe society.

A lot of people in two-income households will make that decision.

Your payday that you're salivating over, where you imagine Obama will bleed the well off to feed your existence, will never materialize. And after the economy spikes downward at a startling rate if Obama imposes his taxes, it will be people like you who suffer, not me.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 7:00 PM

******ABOUT SNL PALIN-INCEST JOKE*******
If you were offended by the SNL Palin-incest joke, visit my blog for the personal email of the SNL producer. Jokes about incest have no place in our society- that is simply sick and terrible. Another attempt by NBC at character assasination?

www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com

Posted by: dcpsychic | September 22, 2008 6:58 PM

jasonh cries about wanting more of somebody else's money. He concludes this part

"I'm glad your husband makes enough for you to "goof off" all day. For the rest of us, we've got bills to pay."

Hey jason and you other Obamites, why wait for the government to steal money from your neigbhors. Be gutsy and steal it from them yourselve. Make sure you give them all you sad sob stories so that they are less prone to shooting you in the butt with a shotgun. I am sure that you can convince them of why you deserve their money more than they do. Oh, be sure to mention Obama supports you in your efforts.

Posted by: jasonh |

Posted by: KMichaels | September 22, 2008 6:56 PM

Posted by: jhbyer

"A failed presidency by definition saddles its successor with dire problems that have to be fixed"

What does a failed democrat majority congress saddle us with, you idiot blowhard? Your retarded idea of blaming the current president for everything, including you getting drunk and being laid off again is just dumb.

And the height of your stupidity comes in you saying Carter fixed anything. Man, what a dope.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 22, 2008 6:52 PM

A failed presidency by definition saddles its successor with dire problems that have to be fixed

Before Reagan took office, Jimmy Carter recognized and worked diligently to set the ship of state aright.

Shrub is the worst POTUS ever.

Posted by: jhbyer | September 22, 2008 6:48 PM

AsperGirl wrote:

This is not the 1950's. Most high-earning households are due to couples with TWO professionals working, not one. Because there is also a high level of stress in dual-professional households, if you raise taxes on them, you disincentivize both spouses working. Say there is a two-professional household where the lower-paid spouse makes $80K while the higher-paid spouse makes $200K. The taxes Obama proposes makes it completely unworthwhile for the $80K spouse to keep working to bring home what is in effect $30K after taxes, and have no free time and also have all the expenses of employment (suits, lunches out, etc.). The $15K-$20K the second spouse has left to spend after taxes and work related expenses, isn't worth a year of her life.
**********

Well I'm glad you get to sit on your butt all day. So the top 10% of families might have some issues.

I make $46k and my wife makes $14k. All the tax talk is around the MIDDLE CLASS, which we are. I personally could use a little tax relief. As it is, I haven't had any taxes taken out of my checks this year, just so I could keep afloat.

I'm glad your husband makes enough for you to "goof off" all day. For the rest of us, we've got bills to pay.

Posted by: jasonh | September 22, 2008 6:47 PM

Yet another idiot liberal writes (as to the cause of oil prices)

1) the CFMA, slipped in on the back of a budget bill by Phil "Nation of Whiners" Gramm, that permitted the so-called "Enron effect" in unregulated commodities trading.

The Enron effect was removed out of that bill and after which the oil prices went up 50% more. So actual observation proves you liberal dummies wrong again. The main reason Oil goes up quickly is connected to the devaluation of the US dollar compared to the Euro. When the US dollar went back up the cost of oil went back down. Nothing in the Gramm bill explains high oil prices. But yes, idiot lying retarded Obamites did hear the Obama camp try to make this false connection. So voila, first idiot Obama says something then all the idiot Obamites have to repeat it. Why? Because they are braindead zombies.

2) a MIDDLE EAST WAR to juice up the price of those unregulated commodity futures trading on reckless speculation.

Most oil experts say that the supply and demand for oil seem to have nothing to do wth a middle east war. But again, those dumb Obamites do like to pull facts out of their butts.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 22, 2008 6:44 PM

Vote none of the above.

Posted by: robinhood | September 22, 2008 6:42 PM

"Now, McCain camp came out with an ad that showed Francis Raines, ex CEO of Fannie Mae, being connected to Obama."

"So, what do the idiot Obamites do. They claim that it must be a racist ad. Because it shows a picture of two blacks together. One is Obama, hell, he is black, hard to whitewash that one. And the other also happens to be black."

Posted by: KMichaels | September 22, 2008 6:28 PM

SO THE OBAMA CAMP COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS WAS RACIST TO PUT HIM IN A COMMERCIAL WITH BLONDE WOMEN (PARIS HILTON & BRITNEY SPEARS) AND NOW THEY CLAIM IT'S RACIST TO PUT HIM IN A COMMERCIAL WITH A BLACK MAN? (RAINES - FANNIE MAE CEO & OBAMA ADVISOR/SUPPORTER).

What a font of specious racist accusations the Obama campaign is. So who is it not racist to put in ads with Obama? No white women, no black men. Would it be racist to put Latina women, white men, Native American children in anti-Obama ads?

Maybe Obama should send out a list of what ethic/gender combinations are okay to put in an ad with him, so the McCain campaign can avoid these accusations of racism in the future.

Hey, how about Asian? If McCain had an Asian actor play Obama's friend, Fannie CEO Francis Raines, so that people didn't know Raines was black, would that be acceptable?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 6:41 PM

1) the CFMA, slipped in on the back of a budget bill by Phil "Nation of Whiners" Gramm, that permitted the so-called "Enron effect" in unregulated commodities trading.

2) a MIDDLE EAST WAR to juice up the price of those unregulated commodity futures trading on reckless speculation.

Posted by: K | September 22, 2008 6:39 PM

"ask the dems why the price of oil is so high for us."

1) the CFMA, slipped in on the back of a budget bill by Phil "Nation of Whiners" Gramm, that permitted the so-called "Enron effect" in unregulated commodities trading.

2) a MIDDLE EAST WAR to juice up the price of those unregulated commodity futures trading on reckless speculation.

Posted by: George W. McLiar | September 22, 2008 6:37 PM

JUST SAY NO!
The Kleptocrats like nothing better than us peons playing the blame game.
McCain did it! Obama did it!
We go BLAH BLAH BLAH!
Our Masters go Ha Ha Ha!
In the meantime the crooks are stealing your grandkids' money to buy their Jeff Koons and houses in Greenwich and trophy wives!

Why are both McCain and Obama saying yes to this theft?
Does anyone believe they aren't bought lock stock and outhouse by the ruling class?
What better proof do we need that
IT DOESN"T MATTER WHO IS ELECTED!

What a sad sad demofraud we live in...

Posted by: JamesT | September 22, 2008 6:36 PM

Idiot scared rabbit liberal writes:

"Won't be good for all the rich people when the middle class is out of work and enabling society to collapse."

If all the middle class were out of work that would not be good for the middle class either.

Other things not good, company owners throwing in the towel because taxes are too high.

Rich people withdrawing all of their investment money out of the system. Middle class goes bump in the night. Pretty much 1 job per 1000 people.

Wonder why the US founding fathers thought it would be a bad idea to have variable tax rates? Nah, I bet you never wondered because you are too stupid to ask the right questions.

BTW, why did Obama fight tooth and nail against regulating Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac? Because he was #2 on the list of receiving lobbying money from them. #2 after four years, most of which time he was not even PRESENT.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 22, 2008 6:35 PM

AsperGirl:

I definitely grew up in an older generation ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 6:34 PM

>>"I don't know where some are going with this but the realities are that in the last few years a loaf of bread has gone from $1.40 to $3.40 and a gallon of gas from $1.50 to $4.00 and we wonder why people are having a hard time."

Posted by: Alex P | September 22, 2008 6:29 PM

Ask Obama about food inflation and his corn ethanol biofuels subsidy program. And ask the dems why the price of oil is so high for us.

WHAT THE MEDIA WON'T TELL YOU: OBAMA & FOOD INFLATION
OBAMA'S "ENERGY PLAN" SUPPORT: FOR CORN STATE WELFARE

The U.S. corn ethanol biofuels program is pure pork, and pure corrupt subsidies from taxpayers pockets for no good public benefit that fuels the Midwestern farm boom and creates a spike in the agricultural commodities boom, and Obama is all for it because it pays big $$ in subsidies to Illinois farmers. It's the basis for Obama's support in Iowa.

Groups tracking world hunger spikes and food inflation problems this year are blaming the U.S. corn ethanol program for diverting farmers from growing food into growing fuel. Global warming advocates point out that it takes more carbon, overall, to produce, distill, refine and burn corn ethanol biofuels than regular oil or natural gas. Making ethanol from corn is so inefficient that we can never use it for energy independence; we already use 25% of our national corn crop for ethanol. Finally, it costs more to use gas blended with ethanol as cars get markedly fewer miles per gallon than they do with regular 100% gas, but you pay as much at the pump for the ethanol blended gas. Motorists who know what they are doing seek out 100%, no-ethanol blend gas stations, even.

The corn ethanol biofuels program solves no problems, creates food inflation, and it's a ripoff -- a King Corn welfare program to already-flush farmers. From one pocket, the taxpayer pays massive subsidies to corn ethanol growers in farm states, while from the other pocket we pay higher prices at the grocery store for food as a result of the biofuels-caused food inflation. Meanwhile we get poorer gas mileage from ethanol blends while paying the same prices as we pay at stations that sell 100% gas.

We could solve a big chunk of our crippling economic problems this year if we do away with the corn ethanol biofuels program because of the big role that program plays in the inflation side of this years' problems.

From 2006 to 2007, 15 million new acres of corn were brought into production in the United States, contributing to the depletion of fresh water supplies and adding to agrochemical runoff from the country’s corn belt that has already created an enormous dead zone where the Mississippi River enters the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico is an ecologically important zone; for example, serving as the breeding ground for many Atlantic species, like dolphins. The dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico, caused by agricultural, sewage and industrial runoff, is expected to grow just as Bush's Environmental Protection Agency denied a petition to waive the federal ethanol mandate in the 2007 energy bill. The EPA decided not to interfere with Bush's federal ethanol mandate despite how destructive the corn ethanol programs have been environmentally.

Obama is all for corn ethanol subsidies programs and has been a staunch supporter of them. Illinois is the second largest recipient of corn ethanol farming subsidies. Obama supports corn ethanol even as there are food riots in Southeast Asia and a price-caused famine in Africa where people are starving due to world price spikes in grain. Obama scored his widely-acclaimed Iowa caucus victory on the back of his unscrupulous corn ethanol support that wins him critical support from special interest constituencies.

John McCain, by the way, has taken a principled stand against the corn ethanol biofuels program, even though it cost him votes in Iowa.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 6:32 PM

I don't know where some are going with this but the realities are that in the last few years a loaf of bread has gone from $1.40 to $3.40 and a gallon of gas from $1.50 to $4.00 and we wonder why people are having a hard time.

most of this inflation has been caused by a combination of government printing money to cover the deficit and speculator fat cats getting greedy on oil. Now with the bank bail out we are seeing another bunch of money printed and oil futures have spiked $16/barrel in the last 2 hours.

To fix this will require congress to re do the budget and get it under control by raising taxes and cutting spending.

now lets hear how they are going to do it.

Posted by: Alex P | September 22, 2008 6:29 PM

Ok, Dukakis is still as big of a moron as ever. Now he is playing the race card again, the same way he did in his own campaign, aka Willy Horton.

So, the reps were talking about how Dukakis was weak on crime. So they took a prime example with some real kick to it. That a prisoner that happened to be black was let out on a weekend pass and killed a guy and raped his girlfriend. Ok, pretty bad crime and a pretty good example of how stupid Dukakis was.

Dukakis conclusion in all of that? That reps were trying to scare people with pictures of black people.

Hmmm, it seems this black person was guilty of a top level heinous crime and that is why he was chosen. It was a good example. Nice ad frankly.

Now, McCain camp came out with an ad that showed Francis Raines, ex CEO of Fannie Mae, being connected to Obama.

So, what do the idiot Obamites do. They claim that it must be a racist ad. Because it shows a picture of two blacks together. One is Obama, hell, he is black, hard to whitewash that one. And the other also happens to be black.

But why did McCain choose Raines? It is obvious. Raines was in the thick of things when all the real scandal came out about Fannie Mae. So of course, you choose the CEO of the company at the time it looked the worse.

It was a wise connection for any ad maker to run. A crooked shady CEO of a company, FANNIE MAE, that gave Obama 120 plus thousand in lobbying money.

It was a totally logical connection. But idiots like Obama and Dukakis are saying it is a race issue. Hell Obama, you are black. It is hard not to show a picture of a black guy if the picture is of you, you dopey elitist, sexist racist fool.

So, the big comeback from Obama? Hey you dont have records that we were connected. All you have is a washington post article that said you two were connected.

Hmmm, you idiots in the Obama camp really need to come up with better comebacks. You are looking rather flacid.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 22, 2008 6:28 PM

Independents for PALIN and the First Dude ... not McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 6:27 PM

"AsperGirl: I thought, in the past, that doctors (and too many lawyers unfortunately) married trophy wives AFTER they divorced the first wives who put them through school and raised the family for them ; )"

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 5:52 PM

That's for the guys who didn't do well enough with their pick out of the gate, maybe? Or who become successful to the point where they want better wives?

In the old days, guys married young and then had midlife crises. Can you imagine a geeky Bill Gates marrying young, and what kind of wife would have gotten versus the accomplished Melinda, long after he made billions?

The quickest path to wealth for young professionals nowadays is to marry another professional.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 6:26 PM

Hillary to VP and Bill's adivse are sorely needed. Obama is in trouble with his inexperience. Help us all.

Posted by: Tom | September 22, 2008 6:24 PM

Dan, you forgot two questions.

1) Is either of the two presidential candidates likely to die during a first or second term in office?

2) Given their track records, what are the likely policies of the respective vice-presidential candidates should they become president and commander-in-chief?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 6:22 PM

"asperger girl, more money is being concentrated in a smaller percentage of the people at the top. Your median income number hides this while showing the average going up. This trend to concentrate the wealth has been going on for 20 years."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 6:04 PM

And what is your explanation for this phenomenon?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 6:19 PM

"Trader Jason Weisberg looks down on the floor of the New York Stock
Exchange, Sept. 22, 2008. (Richard Drew/Associated Press)"

C'mon. The guy is very clearly reading an electronic device in his right hand. Look at the photo.

Posted by: Exchecker of the Reality | September 22, 2008 6:11 PM

asperger girl, more money is being concentrated in a smaller percentage of the people at the top. Your median income number hides this while showing the average going up. This trend to concentrate the wealth has been going on for 20 years.

Won't be good for all the rich people when the middle class is out of work and enabling society to collapse. Hope they have high walls, Rottweilers, and guns to protect themselves in when they have finally amassed all of the money.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 6:04 PM

I will not vote for a guy who just last Monday said the economy was strong.

Posted by: alba | September 22, 2008 5:58 PM

Not trick math, just easy numbers. Fed buys debt at a discount, bank has debt off it's books. Books back in balance again, banks solvent. Fed sells discounted debt and recovers it's "investment".


If anyone thinks the taxpayers will ever see even a fraction of the 700 billion then they must have a crack stem superglued into each nostril.

The money will be given away. It will be mismanaged. The banks will move around, buy and sell each other, go bankrupt, sell the paper, use the money for more write-off's against their income after they lose it again, make even more bad investments. The government won't be able to hire enough competant, ethical auditors and regulators to keep track of the little cracks and crevices this money will flow into let alone ask or expect to get any of it bacl. Not to mention all the flim flam men figuring out now how to present bogus applications to transfer the money into their own back pockets.

There will be only one number that will be accurate in this whole mess. The number $700 billion. After that money leaves the taxpayers wallets all numbers subsequently become nothing but wild gesstimates.

All the uncrupulous lenders and bundlers will be handed a "Get Out of Jail Free" card AND a "Bank Error In Your Favor" card. What do taxpayers get? "Do Not Pass Go and Do Not Collect $200."

They funny thing is we ask each candidate their opinion on this. McCain wants to appoint a commission. There is 2 years and a non-partisan (read bi-partisan worthless compromise) waste of time and money amounting to hiding from the problem and hoping it will go away.

Obama will attempt to do the right thing and save a few billion of tapayers money. Why bother when 100 times that amount got thrown out of the window?

The the two candidates campaign's have been maginalized big time. You might as well make it a beauty contest now.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:56 PM

Stacey Hill:

I also want McCain to win this election -- at least we can agree on that much ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 5:54 PM

AsperGirl:

I thought, in the past, that doctors (and too many lawyers unfortunately) married trophy wives AFTER they divorced the first wives who put them through school and raised the family for them ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 5:52 PM

A guy on Bloomberg makes an okay briefing on how Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac are part of this problem. What he ignores is how corrupt, negligent & Wall-Street-serving the Bush Administration and Republicans in Congress have been. And the Republicans in Congress were all on board for the 1999 Clinton-era deregulation of banking & commodity trading. That was sponsored by Phil Gramm.

If you can put aside the below author's denial of the role the Republicans played, the below article is an okay briefing on the Fannie, Freddie part of the credit system meltdown.

How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: Kevin Hassett
Commentary by Kevin Hassett

Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) -- The financial crisis of the past year has provided a number of surprising twists and turns, and from Bear Stearns Cos. to American International Group Inc., ambiguity has been a big part of the story.

Why did Bear Stearns fail, and how does that relate to AIG? It all seems so complex.

But really, it isn't. Enough cards on this table have been turned over that the story is now clear. The economic history books will describe this episode in simple and understandable terms: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exploded, and many bystanders were injured in the blast, some fatally.

Fannie and Freddie did this by becoming a key enabler of the mortgage crisis. They fueled Wall Street's efforts to securitize subprime loans by becoming the primary customer of all AAA-rated subprime-mortgage pools. In addition, they held an enormous portfolio of mortgages themselves.

more at: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 5:52 PM

Rob wrote:

"History has shown us that McCain has never seen a piece of anti-regulation legislation he didn't love and vote for."

Ummm...did you completely sleep through the regulatory mishmash of McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform? McCain's signature piece of legislation is regulatory at its core.

It might do you well to think and reflect a little on reality before making sweeping generalizations.

Posted by: buzzardist | September 22, 2008 5:48 PM

"If you think as your example indicates, if it is to be assumed meaningful, that the average two-income household in America is pulling down $360,000 a year, you are seriously out of touch. "

Posted by: RABO | September 22, 2008 5:21 PM

The biggest reason for an exponential spike in wealth in upper classes in the past couple of decades along with increasing revenue to the U.S. treasury is because upper class professionals marry upper class professionals. A doctor used to marry a trophy wife. Now a doctor marries another doctor as the professional world becomes more integrated with women.

The biggest rise in wealthy households lately is due to highly paid professionals marrying each other, not due to some social injustice. Most of the expansion of the economy lately has been due to the rise of earnings of women in two-income households, not corruption.

You're never going to be able to force your welfare scam onto America. If Obama imposes his tax regime, a lot of second-income earners will drop out of the work force and revenues will plummet and the economy will contract mightily.

The only reason you're not reading about this in the papers is that the media is all corrupt and pushing stories that benefit Obama, not undermine him.

"Since 1967, the median household income in the United States has risen by 31%, fluctuating several times. The rise in household income is largely the result of an increase in personal income among college graduates, a group that has doubled in size since the 1960s, and women entering the labor force. Today, 42% of all households have two income earners. Household income increased dramatically faster for affluent households with income inequality having increased steadily since the 1970s."
....
"Income in the period between 1967 and 1999 grew considerably faster among wealthier households than it did among poorer households. For example the household income for the 80th precentile, the lower threshold for the top quintile, rose from $55,265 in 1967 to $86,867 in 2003, a 57.2% increase. The median household income rose by 30% while the income for the 20th percentile (the lower threshold for the second lowest quitile) rose by only 28% from $14,002 to $17,984. As the majority of households in the top quintile had two income earners, versus zero for the lowest quintile and that the widening gap between the top and lowest quintile may largely be the reflection of changing household demographics including the addition of women to the workforce."

Wikipedia: Household income in the United states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

You're never going to get your free ride off the rich white fat man that you're salivating over. Most of the people you will be trying to feed off of are actually working women and working mothers in upper middle class households who are earning second professional incomes for their families.

What you will see, if Obama imposes his promised tax regime, is the economy will contract another 5 percent, dropping like a rock as professional women across the country drop out of working to stay home with the kids, live a life of more frugal leisure and/or go back to school.

You will get nothing, no free ride, no payday. Obama will tip the country into a depression if he imposes this tax regime.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 5:46 PM

In a twisted sort of way I almost want McCain to win this election because four more years worth of failed Bush/McCain policies would for all intents and purposes be the end of the Republican party as we know it today. They would become the 4th party gadflies that they deserve to be.


The only question is, would this country survive it?


You people out there who live in economic downtrodden states like Ohio, Pa and Michigan etc, if you're stupid enough to vote for McCain then you will deserve every bit of continued econimic hardship that a "president McCain" would give you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: Stacey Hill | September 22, 2008 5:43 PM

Sometimes history is a map to the future. Sometimes it isn't. History has shown us that McCain has never seen a piece of anti-regulation legislation he didn't love and vote for. We're supposed to believe, now, that he is for regulation. Right! Obama wasn't in government when the Savings and Loan debacle happened. McCain was, and was in the thick of it - one of the Keating Five. We are in a very volatile time right now. It requires cool heads and intelligence. Only one of the two candidates has demonstrated both. Nearly half of us are going to vote Republican because that's what we do. Nearly half will vote Democratic - same reason. Just a small percentage of voters will determine who will make crucial decisions affecting all of us for the next four years. Let's hope that small percentage votes with their heads instead of their emotions.

Posted by: Rob | September 22, 2008 5:40 PM

Could you imagine Palin getting us out of this mess?

That thought makes me want to barf in my shoes.

First she'd apply for some earmarks from the UN. Then she'd pretend she didn't. Then she'd put the Pentagon up on ebay, but that would actually cost us more money. Then she'd give everyone guns and tell us to go hunting. People would be eating zoo animals and sewer rats and wolves and stuff...

And then we'd start eating each other.

And she would go into seclusion... refuse to talk to the press. She'd just broadcast that same speech over and over about lipstick and pitbulls. Then she'd brag about how she once ate General Tso's Chicken, and so she is equipped to lead the armed forces to war in china.

What a bummer.

Posted by: Bluto | September 22, 2008 5:36 PM

Please give my regards to Rush. And you can tell that fat drug addict it didn't work.


That Fat Drug Addict, who is above the law I might add, really should tithe 10% of his larcenous income to the DNC. Without the Clinton's he would still be broke, still be fat, and he would be giving the 2 minute barge report everyone afternoon in his podunk little town of Cape Girardeau on their 500 watt AM radio station.

Admit it Fatso, Bill and Monica made you what you are today. Everything except the 4,000 calorie diet and the painkillers. How are your arteries? Completely clogged up yet?

Posted by: Al Franken | September 22, 2008 5:35 PM


Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:25 PM "After the fed buys all of these loans for 22 cents on the dollar.....The government gets paid back immediately, the debt from the bailout is retired...
Is this one of those tricky math questions?? Like where did the 88 cents go?"

Not trick math, just easy numbers. Fed buys debt at a discount, bank has debt off it's books. Books back in balance again, banks solvent. Fed sells discounted debt and recovers it's "investment".

The 78 cents difference between the original debt and the discounted price essentially wasn't there to begin with. If it had been, then there would have been no crisis to begin with. It represents the artificially inflated worth of the mortgage-backed securities.

Markets, both housing and mortgage, can then come back into line with real world values again, and we can reestablish stability.

Posted by: RABO | September 22, 2008 5:34 PM

You are wrong... Obama is going to be another FDR.

And even if he doesn't fill FDR's shoes... I'd rather elect someone who admires FDR than someone who despises him.

Free market whackos got us into this mess... I'm not going to expect them to get us out of it.

Posted by: bluto | September 22, 2008 5:31 PM

Hitchens! Ha!

I tried to drop a quarter in his cup, because I thought he was a deranged drunk wandering the streets spouting off crazy rants and looking for handouts.

Actually, the bit about dropping a quarter in his cup... that's not true.

But the bit about him being a deranged drunk rambling crazy ideas while roaming the streets hustling for handouts... that's about the truth.

Posted by: bluto | September 22, 2008 5:29 PM

McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, was back with the campaign last week.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.


In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:
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Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.
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Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."


*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N38Ug_ugzXs
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Posted by: McCain is a LIAR! | September 22, 2008 5:27 PM

If Barack Obama gets elected, he will be presiding over a depression (it will be known as "the Obama depression") for years and he not get re-elected to a second term.

While this will probably also be true if John McCain is elected, John McCain won't be held up as a race disgrace: the failed First Black President.

Can you imagine the hatred for George Bush, but mapped onto First Black President who is presiding over what is known as "Obama's depression"? The hatred of Obama would be so intense as to set race relations back 50 years.

If he enacts the taxes he promises, the number of 2-income professional couples who comprise the majority of upper-middle-class households right now, would drop like a rock as the second spouse stays home. The economy would contract at least another five percent for that reason alone.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 5:27 PM

No offense, but the Republicans ruined everything.

I was born and raised in this country... and all my life I have heard the Republicans complain about how bad the US government is.

Well, they campaigned to be a part of the US government, got elected, and now they have trashed everything.

It reminds me of the rich kids at my college who used to trash the school. It was like they were angry about being rich, so they badmouthed the profs, vandalized the dorms, and got bad grades.

But then when it came time to graduate, they'd suck up to the teachers and cry so they could get the minimum gpa needed to get their diploma.

Same thing is happening now...

What an embarassing bunch of fools. And we all have to pay the price for their stupidity.

Posted by: bluto | September 22, 2008 5:26 PM

Is Obama Another Dukakis?
Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?
By Christopher Hitchens
Updated Monday, Sept. 22, 2008, Slate

"...I ran into a rather clever Republican operative at the airport last week, who pointed out to me that this ought by rights to be a Democratic Party year across the board, from the White House to the Congress to the gubernatorial races. But there was a crucial energy leak, and it came from the very top. More people doubted Obama's qualifications for the presidency in September than had told the pollsters they had doubted these credentials in July. "So what he ought to do," smiled this man, "is spend his time closing that gap and less time attacking McCain." Obama's party hacks, increasingly white and even green about the gills, are telling him to do the opposite. I suppose this could even mean that Sarah Palin, down the road, will end up holding the door open for Hillary Clinton. Such joy!"

Posted by: Scott | September 22, 2008 5:26 PM

After the fed buys all of these loans for 22 cents on the dollar.....The government gets paid back immediately, the debt from the bailout is retired...


Is this one of those tricky math questions?? Like where did the 88 cents go?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:25 PM

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 5:05 PM : "I guarantee you will see a plummet in dual income households if Obama's tax regime gets enacted."
"Some people whose spouses are making six figures, would just rather enjoy their lives and not work, than experience the stress and burden of working for $30K spending money."

If you think as your example indicates, if it is to be assumed meaningful, that the average two-income household in America is pulling down $360,000 a year, you are seriously out of touch.
Plenty of people would love to have the opportunity to earn $40,000 - and not just for extra spending money, either.
If your sugar-daddy is earning in excess of $250,000 per year and you choose not to work, more power to you!
But don't project your perceived "burden" of earning a living and paying taxes upon the vast majority of wage earners who have to live on what you consider "spending money".

Posted by: RABO | September 22, 2008 5:21 PM

JUST LIKE THE PATRIOT ACT:
THIS IS UN-AMERICAN....
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.

Posted by: tomcat3 | September 22, 2008 5:18 PM

Anonymous,

No I think you show yourself for the fascist you are. IF a candidate who was running for president were also Muslim, I would judge that candidate just the same as any other. Again, being a natural citizen and being Muslim does not disqualify someone from seeking or being president. Just as it doesn't disqualify a Jew, a Buddhist, a Quaker, a Hindu or no religion at all. If you feel differently then I suggest you start pushing for a constitutional amendment which says only white "Christians" can be president.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:16 PM

Lil pathetic Liberals its all over for you.I pity you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:13 PM

Here is an idea. Obama proposes a new tax credit for $2500 dollars for the first 300,000,000 Americans. They have two choices,
give it to a friend, or, invest it in a failing bank for 5 years. When it matures, they get one tenth of the value.

http://www.boppoll.com

I know who is getting my bop vote!

Posted by: acarponzo | September 22, 2008 5:12 PM

I'm sure in the midst of all this turmoil, Henry Paulson took the time to request that Barackie delay issuing his own "rescue" plan. Like Paulson would even be thinking about anything Barackie was doing.

Posted by: King Mswati | September 22, 2008 5:11 PM

Senator Obama supports Paulson's economic plans. He lacks his own strategy. Sounds familiar? Remember in the Democratic Debates? Senator Obama always agree with Senator Hillary Clinton. Now, he agrees with the Republicans. He has to wait a whole week to make any economic statements. No Obama! Vote for the real change. Vote McCain/Palin 08
Senator Hillary Clinton 2012

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Hey disingenuous conservative troll:

Operation Chaos is over. Please give my regards to Rush. And you can tell that fat drug addict it didn't work.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:10 PM

von gerstner you are an idiot.Do you really need the MUSLIM COMMUNIST in our WH?????

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:10 PM

Anonymous,

Show us the proof. Oh, you can't because you have none.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:09 PM

Anonymous,

Yes I did get it, the fact is you have no facts, only lies and innuendos.


Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:05 PM

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No you didn't get it.Obama broke the law!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:08 PM

Face it, all you partisan talking heads,
neither candidate is very convincing in their approach the current financial crisis. To couch your ideas in a "my party vs. your party" mentality is to simply cut yourself off from half of all the good ideas in the world. Who admits to intentionally being half-stupid? Raise your hand.

Thought so.

This is a total game-changer situation, an uncharted sea of economic turmoil and uncertainty. Partisan politics has no traction in this argument.

So here I offer, to whichever candidate is smart enough to take it, a solution.

The Plan:
Distribute the oversight of the bailout directly into the hands of the American people.
The Solution:
After the fed buys all of these loans for 22 cents on the dollar, they should offer them for sale first, at the discounted price, to the individuals who hold each and every one of those mortgages. Then the banks - as a requirement for us taxpayers saving their skin yet again - can restructure these reduced home debts with reasonable, affordable, sustainable, long term fixed rate notes.
The Result:
All those foreclosures turn into financial instruments with real value again. Homeowners go from facing foreclosure to having a sustainable mortgage and equity in their homes. The government gets paid back immediately, the debt from the bailout is retired, and the home mortgage foreclosures stop once and for all!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:06 PM

Hey mmarri:

Let me see if I understand this. If Obama were to be in opposition to this bailout that would be a sign that he only cares about his candidacy and not the welfare of the nation, but if he does support it then its a sign of spinelessness.

Man, you cons are a piece of work!

Posted by: DavidD | September 22, 2008 5:05 PM

Anonymous,

Yes I did get it, the fact is you have no facts, only lies and innuendos.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:05 PM

"No doubt, you spend all your time spewing nonsense like this on message boards. You don't work because you fear the taxes ? What a crock. Do you think you will earn more than $250,000 right away that you may be taxed a teeny bit higher ? Because if its any less, you will get a tax break."

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 4:38 PM

You really didn't understand any of the elements of the dual-professional household scenario I described, did you? Where it's the spouse's income that pushes the couple into an undesirable tax bracket, so it's not worth the spouse working anymore because of how little money that second income would bring in?

Let me try one more time, with a more clear example:

Let's say your spouse makes $260K, and you make $100K. If Obama raises the tax rate so that anyone over $250K gets taxed at a marginal 60 percent rate, if you stop working, after deductions you can get your adjusted gross income down to $220K.

But if you keep working, you're still definitely above $250K. Anything you make, you will keep only 40 percent of it. Plus, on top of that, you have all your work expenses: gas, suits, lunches out, insurance, parking, etc. Out of your $100K, you're only enjoying maybe $30K to spend as discretionary income. Some people whose spouses are making six figures, would just rather enjoy their lives and not work, than experience the stress and burden of working for $30K spending money. Especially if there are kids to take care of.

I guarantee you will see a plummet in dual income households if Obama's tax regime gets enacted.

This is not the 1950's. Too many taxes: one spouse stays home.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 5:05 PM

Anonymous,

What an RNC troll tool you are. Regardless of the lies you spew about Obama, why shouldn't there be the possibility of a Muslim in the White House? This country was founded on the principle of freedom of religion. The framers of the constitution didn't include a litmus test in there that said you had to be a white Christian. Talk about un-American fascist trash.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:04 PM

Anonymous,

I think you proved my point, there are no facts. We will be waiting a VERY long time.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:00 PM

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You didn't get it.I told you-all facts will be available soon

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:02 PM

Anonymous,

I think you proved my point, there are no facts. We will be waiting a VERY long time.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 5:00 PM

Obama is the communist with a communist agenda for this country.Do we need a muslim communist in WH?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 5:00 PM

Anonymous,

If Obama broke any laws why isn't the republican appointed Attorney General on him like lipstick on a pig? Because there isn't anything there that's why.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 4:56 PM

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Just wait.All facts will be available soon.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 4:59 PM

As a republican the only gratifying thing I see with this bust in the economy ... is that all the rich dudes are suffering with all of us middle income to poor folk. There is something to say for "the higher you go ..." and its relation to the fall. It is in the interest of the rich to heal the economy. Most of these politicians don't really give a darn about "We the people ..." They spew and SPIN their lies ... and the goal is just to be elected President. For all the Hillary Huggers it made me a bit sad to see the piece on the Emmys last night with Tim Russert asking Hillary in 2006 whether she wanted to be President ... There was a declarative NO ... Never ... and indeed it was so. Now you can vote Sarah Palin to restoire your confidence in politicians.

Posted by: The Republic | September 22, 2008 4:58 PM

"...why Democrats still want to win this election."
Posted by: Larry | September 22, 2008 4:43 PM

Maybe because Democrats are patriots who want to fix what is broken in this country, regardless of how hard it may be. I for one are glad the Democrats haven't ceded the election!

Posted by: eatbees | September 22, 2008 4:57 PM

Anonymous,

If Obama broke any laws why isn't the republican appointed Attorney General on him like lipstick on a pig? Because there isn't anything there that's why.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 4:56 PM

One of the new realities is that
Rick Davis, the McCain chief campaign strategist was a full tme lobbyist for over 5 years for Fannie and Freddie, getting over $30,000 per month, over $2 MILLION dollars, $2,000,000.00 to prevent regulation of the loan giants.
THAT IS NEWS.

Posted by: M Tobias | September 22, 2008 4:55 PM

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago togehter with the criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago mob connection.Do we need a criminal president?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 4:54 PM

Is Aspergirl McC's daughter?

Posted by: lynettema | September 22, 2008 4:53 PM

Rhetorically? Larry asks:

"For the life of me, I can't figure out why Democrats still want to win this election."

1) The Supreme Court and trying to stem a further erosions of our constituional liberties. And it has nothing to do with Roe v. Wade.

2) Because I have my doubts McCain, even should he win, will ever make it to January to be inaugurated. And if he should, that he will make it to the end of his term. Frankly, I don't want someone who believes the End Times are now (and you RNC trolls can try to refute it but these are her own words as captured on the well circulated video) that close to the launch button.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 4:52 PM

AsperGirl wrote - "Why do you think Wall Street Journal is all of the sudden critical of John McCain's statements? "

Because even the WSJ can't figure out this flip-flop of McCain. He is pretending to change from Scrooge to Che Guevara

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 4:51 PM

This is part of what the Democrats want to see end:

Where did all the wealth go?
Very interesting statistics....

*Six men received a total salary or severance package equaling $638 Million despite management decisions that drove them into bankruptcy.

Bear Stearns:
James Cayne received a $60 Million golden parachute retirement package despite the company's collapse and being put up for auction at bargain prices.

Lehman Brothers:
Richard S. Fuld, Jr. earned in the last 5 years $354 Million despite the companies financial crisis.

Frannie Mae:
Daniel H. Mudd received $24 Million salary.

Freddie Mac:
Richard Syron received $24 Million salary.

Merrill Lynch:
John A. Thain hired 9 mos prior to the company's failure, received a signing bonus of $15 Million

Merrill Lynch:
Retired CEO Stanley O'Neal received a $161 Million golden parachute retirement package despite Merrill Lynch having reported an $8 Billion loss in his last quarter as head of the company.
*Statistics as reported on Bill Moyers' program September 19, 2008

Will any of them be held accountable and charged?

But...oh those irresponsible homeowners, who went into foreclosure from the policies of these corporate giants.
The median house price in April 2007, the last month for which data is available, was $229,100.
According the DataSource: http://www.census.gov/const/uspricemon.pdf

Posted by: lynettema | September 22, 2008 4:49 PM

the American people have got to realize that all of these bail outs have nothing to do with putting money in peoples' pocket. It is just to sure up the banks and lenders from all the poor loan approvals that went on for the past 6 years or so ... and the poor decisions made by consumers. So, if you think the 700 bilion does anything to save you from home foreclsure ... THINK AGAIN ... This is why the market is so soft and shaky. The banks and lennders must have renewed confidence again ... to be able to provide the consumer with basic loans to drive consumer spending. Sad, but we always want to spend money we don't have ... and this is now the catch 22 position we are in. Th housing loan market is going to be soft and slow for about 10 years to come ... because of over priced inventory and a glut of subpar/subprime mortgages.

Posted by: Skeptical | September 22, 2008 4:48 PM

Senator Obama supports Paulson's economic plans. He lacks his own strategy. Sounds familiar? Remember in the Democratic Debates? Senator Obama always agree with Senator Hillary Clinton. Now, he agrees with the Republicans. He has to wait a whole week to make any economic statements. No Obama! Vote for the real change. Vote McCain/Palin 08
Senator Hillary Clinton 2012

Posted by: mmarri | September 22, 2008 4:48 PM

"UNTIL he starts calling for an SEC head that actually investigates and prosecutes securities fraud"

Do you have any idea what the issue is with the financial markets ? It is not securities fraud ! It is bad capital management . The SEC can't do much about that.

Posted by: moderate | September 22, 2008 4:47 PM

"You really enjoy this don't you AsperGirl. Making ignorant statements to get all the WPO liberals frothing at the mouth. I must admit that I find it fun also. You either have a Steve Colbert sense of humor and are a characature of a myopic GOP nut or actaully are one, either way it is fun to watch and oh so helpful for middle of the road folks who are on the fence."

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 22, 2008 4:10 PM

I love Steve Colbert. He's really good.

I'm not doing it on purpose. I'm a Clinton supporter experiencing cognitive dissonance supporting McCain after Clinton dropped out. Steve Colbert is gifted in the ways that make him a perfect fit for the cognitive dissonance the centrist Clinton supporters are experiencing this year.

You're very perceptive in some ways.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 4:46 PM

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Democrats still want to win this election.

If the country is not in recession, it soon will be. We are likely to have higher inflation. The financial crisis ensures that there will be no money for big projects like tax cuts, health care, alternative energy and global warming.

We have two active wars that will drain money for years to come. We will then need to spend money to replace the bombs and equipment that have been lost in the wars.

The next four years will be a nightmare. Whoever is in the White House for these years will get blamed and will be kicked out in 2012. If Democrats are in, they will be replaced by Republicans and they will be back to where they were in 2000.

Wanting to win is one thing. Being stupid is another.

Posted by: Larry | September 22, 2008 4:43 PM

Can you imagine ... John McCain trying to keep up with Sarah and the First Dude on the Palin/McCain ticket ... as she sees it?

Posted by: The Republic | September 22, 2008 4:41 PM

AsperGirl wrote - "This is yet another reason why I don't work. I never even see a third of everything I make and if Obama gets elected it would be less than more than that. I'd take home about half my pay.'

No doubt, you spend all your time spewing nonsense like this on message boards. You don't work because you fear the taxes ? What a crock. Do you think you will earn more than $250,000 right away that you may be taxed a teeny bit higher ? Because if its any less, you will get a tax break.

Its your choice not to work, but don't blame taxes exclusively for it. And unless, you are earning gobs of money, you are not going to see the small increase in tax. Of course, if you are earning that much, you won't blame taxes for quitting the work force !

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 4:38 PM

Even though most Wall Street including the Wall Street Journal likes and votes Republican, it look like they are more than skeptical about these bail outs and the ability of John, Sarah and the First Dude to fix the economy!!

Posted by: The Republic | September 22, 2008 4:38 PM

AsperGirl:

Yep.

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 4:38 PM

"Asper girl wrote - "Why do you think the WALL STREET Journal might be having a problem with John McCain's statements?"

"Asper Girl , you need to get a clue ! The WSJ has consistently been usually against Obama and pro-McCain, Nothing surprising there.. But even they could not take McCain's rashness and bluster."

Posted by: moderate | September 22, 2008 4:28 PM

Okay, take that one step further. The Wall Street Journal is enthusiastic about John McCain... UNTIL he starts calling for an SEC head that actually investigates and prosecutes securities fraud (instead of letting the New York AG investigate Wall Street all alone), UNTIL he starts calling for tough regulation of Wall Street non-banking entities, UNTIL he starts criticizing the bailout as a blank check for Wall Street.

Think, man. Think! Why do you think Wall Street Journal is all of the sudden critical of John McCain's statements? (Hint: Wall Street Journal isn't filled with Main Street interests).

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 4:37 PM

Aspen Girl by the way your Republican party is running the country don't worry your head about rape kit. You most likely will go homeless or off to another war while the American dollar is being used as wallpaper.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 4:34 PM

"AsperGirl, If you get raped under Palin she might charge you for testing."

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | September 22, 2008 4:10 PM

In a state that has ZERO taxes, that sends me a $2000 check at tax time, and that needs nothing from me to run itself, I think that having to put up with occasional, small-gov't aggravations like paying for rape kits in a town that has been having an epidemic of false rape accusations, is not a big thing.

I'd rather pay for small exceptional expenses when dealing with police, etc., than pay taxes. I'd rather get a $2000 check from my state each year than free rape kits from the police.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 4:30 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 4:29 PM

Asper girl wrote - "Why do you think the WALL STREET Journal might be having a problem with John McCain's statements?"

Asper Girl , you need to get a clue ! The WSJ has consistently been usually against Obama and pro-McCain, Nothing surprising there.. But even they could not take McCain's rashness and bluster.

Here we have a huge financial market meltdown, and all McCain could think of is to fire the SEC head and set up a committee to look int the mess !

While I am not big on the SEC, they surely are not the reason that bad mortgages were given and sold.

Only a McCain campaign tool like you will try to put a spin on this.

Posted by: moderate | September 22, 2008 4:28 PM

I don't see why anyone should be surprised. You wouldn't know it if you believe the idiot shills who inhabit the WaPo editorial page, but out here in reality it's been obvious for years that the Bush/Cheney gangster syndicate was leaving nothing but wreckage in its wake.

If we're really, really lucky, Obama has the stuff to be this era's FDR. (And it's worth noting that FDR's 1932 campaign gave practically no indication that he'd become the greatest 20th Century president.)

On the other hand, I can see one compelling reason to vote for McCain: For once, a Republican would be stuck with the mess left by his own party, and with any luck, the Republican Party would finally be destroyed. Because it needs to go. The GOP has become something like a fever boil, swollen with the very worst of our political toxins -- militarism, authoritarianism, small-mindedness, the worst kinds of jingoism. The Republican Party IS the Party That Wrecked America.

Posted by: SGlover910 | September 22, 2008 4:27 PM

>> abqcleve wrote: "So, Obama's proposals re-redistribute responsibility from the wealthy back to those who need it and consume the most government resources anyway."

Obama's tax proposal would provide "refund" checks to those who have not paid taxes. I.e. the gov't would be sending them money, not "refunds", and money collected from others. That's a form of welfare.

This is yet another reason why I don't work. I never even see a third of everything I make and if Obama gets elected it would be less than more than that. I'd take home about half my pay. On top of that, there are all the expenses of employment, like eating out and gas and etc. And my quality of life goes down because I'm working instead of goofing off and doing what I want. Now, we eat better and have a nicer life than when both of us were working.

It's not worth it for me to work already, on account of taxes. So long as my husband wants me to stay home, there is no incentive for me to work and go through the trouble and expense of working if so much of my pay will go to other people.

If you raise taxes, you're going to see a lot of women drop out of the work force, like me. Why should I work and have the gov't take half my money, when instead I can spend my time oil painting, surfing the web, working out, cooking exotic meals and having a nice life?

>> "Good idea. Back in the early '50's, the tax rate for the super rich was about 90%: those were the hayday of American prosperity and health of the middle class. Time to turn the tables, if only to avert social upheaval and revolution, which is good for no one."

That was when most women stayed at home already. it was very, very cheap to live back then. A lot of people didn't even have cars back then. Women baked their own bread, etc.

Kind of like how I'm living now... our consumption as a household has dropped way down. We make less money, but our consumption and spending has dropped, also.

In terms of my household, our corner of the economy that is my household has already contracted in our spending by at least 50 percent, and I am not making a salary anymore so the gov't is not collecting a revenue stream from me anymore.

I'm perfectly happy with this because we can still afford to buy the things we want, live a better life and I needed the time off.

If the tax rates go up even more, I may never return to work. Maybe go back to school and get another degree if I get board.

This is not the 1950's. Most high-earning households are due to couples with TWO professionals working, not one. Because there is also a high level of stress in dual-professional households, if you raise taxes on them, you disincentivize both spouses working. Say there is a two-professional household where the lower-paid spouse makes $80K while the higher-paid spouse makes $200K. The taxes Obama proposes makes it completely unworthwhile for the $80K spouse to keep working to bring home what is in effect $30K after taxes, and have no free time and also have all the expenses of employment (suits, lunches out, etc.). The $15K-$20K the second spouse has left to spend after taxes and work related expenses, isn't worth a year of her life.

So the second spouse just stays home, reads, oil paints, surfs the internet, takes classes and enjoys their life. Or raises the kids.

If Obama raises the taxes as proposed, the economy will shrink so quickly due to spouses staying home and choosing not to work, that it will be as if California broke off and sunk into the sea.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 4:26 PM

In reading these blogs, I have to shake my head in wonder! Balz says, rightly in my view, the American voter has to hold both candidates' feet to the fire for honest answers how they are going to deal with the huge messes one of them will inherit January 20th. Instead of reading lucid comments, I get nothing but rants and raves from people who seem unable to think clearly. If those kind of comments reflect the general view of the American electorate, why would either candidate feel obliged to tell us what they plan to do to improve our lives? Quite frankly, I don't care what Obama did 30 years ago. I don't care if Palin was a tv sportscaster. What I do care about is how they assess the problems we face, what they think the solutions should be and why, and what problems they will tackle first! That is what matters to me! If others are so hung up on abortion, taxes, or whatever else other than the common good then move to a country where your views are universally shared! Emigrate! Just get the h*ll out of here and let the rest of us try to find a way out of this mess. If you can't be part of the solution you will remain part of the problem. We have enough of that now. We need solutions, not more of the same nonsense.

Posted by: panamajack | September 22, 2008 4:25 PM

in sum, our choices are sh*tty and sh*ttier.

Posted by: kloro | September 22, 2008 4:19 PM

full disclosure -- i was a teenage republican.

as the last weeks show, events unfold with scope and impact unimagined. we ask our candidates for positions on A, B, & C, but our new president will be faced with situations D, E, and F (explained better by Chuck Todd).

we have to look at their approach to issues, whether in crisis or not. their methods, their thought processes, their priorities, and where they want to take this country.

i am very comfortable with Obama. he shows the skills of real leadership.

it disturbs me that one commenter on here is urging GOP voters to make sure to vote before the first debate. but if i were him, i'd probably be desperate to lock in some votes before my candidate's flaws were exposed, live, on about seven different channels.

Posted by: escaswv | September 22, 2008 4:15 PM

AsperGirl, your comments have become far more structured than your past rants. Albeit a snowstorm of cherry picked facts and figures, full of sound and fury... Well you know the rest.

Posted by: rcc_2000


That's because Steve Schmidt has been working with him/her/it personally.

Posted by: john5750 | September 22, 2008 4:14 PM

You really enjoy this don't you AsperGirl. Making ignorant statements to get all the WPO liberals frothing at the mouth. I must admit that I find it fun also. You either have a Steve Colbert sense of humor and are a characature of a myopic GOP nut or actaully are one, either way it is fun to watch and oh so helpful for middle of the road folks who are on the fence.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 22, 2008 4:10 PM

AsperGirl,
If you get raped under Palin she might charge you for testing.

-If you are a Jew her church thinks you should be killed because you are not saved.

Where is the coverage?
Where is the coverage?
Where is the coverage?
Where is the coverage?????????????????????

Isn't that disgusting??

Posted by: Hillary Supporter | September 22, 2008 4:10 PM

This is a good example, by the way, why politicians like John McCain makes fellow Republicans angry (but gets a lot of respect) and politicians like Barack Obama seemingly has lots of political friends all over him (but never accomplishes anything tangible).

Posted by: AsperGirl

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Respect? Yeah right, more like they think he is a self-serving fool. Have you pooled McCain's peers personally? Do you know this for a fact? And with respect to Obama, what exactly do you base your assertions on? Oh! I forgot, baseless lies and innuendo.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 4:08 PM

AsperGirl, your comments have become far more structured than your past rants. Albeit a snowstorm of cherry picked facts and figures, full of sound and fury... Well you know the rest.

However, it could be construde as an quasi intelligent argument then yo go all

"I wonder how the media will spin this. Will it be like Trinity Church and Rev. Wright where the media ignores that the Emperor Obama has no clothes on?"

Which certainly could be interpreted as a bigoted remark. Anyways the press did a lot more covering Wright than Palin's fundamentalist christian neo-nazi, apocalyptic church and its ministers.

You almost sound reasonable and then your true colors come out (thank god).

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 22, 2008 4:04 PM

"On top of the absurd "plan" he announced, in which he's going to create websites and agencies to make sure our programs are good and hire more contract managers to make sure the contracts are more efficient (LOL!), Obama's sounding like a big idiot today."

Posted by: AsperGirl

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So I guess this is as laughable as Palin advocating that earmark spending be listed on a web site huh? Well guess what, she is so clueless she doesn't even realize that Obama was co-author of a bill which did exactly that and was used to check her claims about being against earmarks.

So her claims for change and transparency, considering her own stonewalling with the Troopergate investigation seems, well, either just a little bit out of touch or, how would you say...disingenuous. Yup, she and Johnboy have some "shakin' and fixin'" to do and it starts at home.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 4:03 PM

"The Wall street journal editorial skewers McCain for his rash and irresponsible statements -Even the conservative outlets see how dumb the McCain/Palin ticket is."

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 3:50 PM

OH GET A CLUE!

Why do you think the WALL STREET journal is "skewering" John McCain for making "rash" statements about how the SEC head should be replaced for not investigating and prosecuting WALL STREET abuses and corrupt derivative security products and for increased regulation of WALL STREET non-banking institutions and for criticizing the WALL STREET bailout blank check?

Why do you think the WALL STREET Journal might be having a problem with John McCain's statements?

Barack Obama is a pansy for laying out a plan that is a non-starter, that avoids criticizing or prosecuting any securities fraud or insulting anyone on WALL STREET.

This is a good example, by the way, why politicians like John McCain makes fellow Republicans angry (but gets a lot of respect) and politicians like Barack Obama seemingly has lots of political friends all over him (but never accomplishes anything tangible).

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 4:00 PM

I think Obama has lost his marbles. He's still stumping around today talking about giving 95 percent of Americans tax relief.

Of those who do file taxes, only 70 percent actually pay taxes. The rest pay zero taxes. Of those who do pay taxes, the top 10 percent of wage earners pay 70 percent of all taxes. The bottom 50 percent of wage earners pay only 4 percent of taxes.

As some economists have noted, his claim to give "tax relief" to 95 percent of Americans means that the gov't would be sending a check to 20 percent of people who pay no taxes. Then the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers who pay only 4 percent of our revenues won't even be paying that. Then he'll be putting that tax burden for those checks and unpaid taxes on the top 10 percent of wage earners who are already paying 70 percent of the taxes in the country.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:36 PM
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That's right, AsperGirl; time to go read up on tax laws! The bottom filers (as opposed to bottom feeders, i.e., Wall Street) get tax refunds, primarily through earned income tax credits. There are many good reasons for that, but if you don't like it, let your local Congressional rep know.

So, Obama's proposals re-redistribute responsibility from the wealthy back to those who need it and consume the most government resources anyway. Good idea. Back in the early '50's, the tax rate for the super rich was about 90%: those were the hayday of American prosperity and health of the middle class. Time to turn the tables, if only to avert social upheaval and revolution, which is good for no one.

Posted by: abqcleve | September 22, 2008 3:58 PM

Interesting discussion by Dan. Both candidates would face steep obstacles to getting their agendas into play.
I tend to think McCain would have higher hurdles than Obama. McCain's "maverick" traits have left him with no friends in Congress who would push his/Bush's agenda, meaning the Senate wouldn't need to break filibusters; the Republicans just wouldn't stage them.
And the House would be so heavily Democratic that they wouldn't need to worry about Republicans voting with McCain at all.
Over all, Obama would have an easier time of it, despite having the burden of the Bush Administration wreckage on his plate.

Posted by: DB | September 22, 2008 3:57 PM

The Wall street journal editorial skewers McCain for his rash and irresponsible statements -

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178318884054675.html?mod=todays_us_opinion

Even the conservative outlets see how dumb the McCain/Palin ticket is.

Posted by: Fido | September 22, 2008 3:50 PM

With or without the arm candy, the last thing the US needs is another president from the shallow end of the brain pool.

Posted by: Euroam | September 22, 2008 3:44 PM

From the so called Hillary supporter and liberal.

A good example of misleading ( not mentioning how much the top 10% actually earn) and hate mongering:
____________________________________
I think Obama has lost his marbles. He's still stumping around today talking about giving 95 percent of Americans tax relief.

Of those who do file taxes, only 70 percent actually pay taxes. The rest pay zero taxes. Of those who do pay taxes, the top 10 percent of wage earners pay 70 percent of all taxes. The bottom 50 percent of wage earners pay only 4 percent of taxes.

As some economists have noted, his claim to give "tax relief" to 95 percent of Americans means that the gov't would be sending a check to 20 percent of people who pay no taxes. Then the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers who pay only 4 percent of our revenues won't even be paying that. Then he'll be putting that tax burden for those checks and unpaid taxes on the top 10 percent of wage earners who are already paying 70 percent of the taxes in the country.

This doesn't add up and never did.

The fact that he's still stumping around today, believing that this is possible after the bailout that is being fought over, that massive package that won't fix our housing sector crisis (just keep the credit from shutting down), is insane. The burden for this bailout will fall on the taxpayers.

His talk of these sweeping tax cuts, transferring the burden for the tax cuts onto the top earners, who will already be paying for this bailout and other economic bailouts and crisis funds, is just insane.

On top of the absurd "plan" he announced, in which he's going to create websites and agencies to make sure our programs are good and hire more contract managers to make sure the contracts are more efficient (LOL!), Obama's sounding like a big idiot today.

I wonder how the media will spin this. Will it be like Trinity Church and Rev. Wright where the media ignores that the Emperor Obama has no clothes on?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:36 PM

Posted by: sanity in confusion | September 22, 2008 3:42 PM

Someone forgot to take their meds! Wow, there should be a word-limit on comments.

Posted by: cb1231 | September 22, 2008 3:39 PM

The American people have been betrayed by selfish, greedy political hacks that sit on Capital Hill preparing their next sound bite -- all the while yelling and pointing legal fingers at one another, preening for the cameras with their cronies at their side, and getting nothing at all accomplished. And as a result the checks and balances that used to work so well don't anymore. And an entire country has been stripped and hijacked of the ability to control its own destiny.

We no longer compete for goods and services -- we pay what the misers of the marketplace dictate, and congress turns a blind eye while stuffing their pockets and purses with cash doled out by their favorite lobbyist of the day.

Cynical? You damn right! I'm mad as hell! My family is mad as hell! My neighbors are mad as hell! And generally, I believe the American people are mad as hell, too! It's time for the media to stop blaming an impotent, dumber than dumb administration. It's Congress that has let our country down…and we have nowhere to turn except to vote all the bums out and get new bums! If we don't McCain or Obama will wind up just as powerless as Bush.

Posted by: Allen | September 22, 2008 3:38 PM

"Aspergirl, Did you evern read the article you posted? He is pointing out how deluded the messages are from spam websites like "moveon-org." If you read the article you would know that he goes on to say what a waste those emails are."

Posted by: Tim | September 22, 2008 3:29 PM

Sorry, it was a joke. It was a TheOnion.com article. It's a satire site.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:37 PM

as far as i remember from living in a communist country is that the small group of people (the govnt) confiscates your prty, manages the country resources, lives off of your taxes, and hang you on a tree if you protest.
if you ask me, it is still the same pig here with a diferent lipstick color.
you dont have to fill in the whole page to get a simple point accross.
how then can the rest of the world listen to what we preach, if we dont practice it?

Posted by: manuel | September 22, 2008 3:36 PM

I think Obama has lost his marbles. He's still stumping around today talking about giving 95 percent of Americans tax relief.

Of those who do file taxes, only 70 percent actually pay taxes. The rest pay zero taxes. Of those who do pay taxes, the top 10 percent of wage earners pay 70 percent of all taxes. The bottom 50 percent of wage earners pay only 4 percent of taxes.

As some economists have noted, his claim to give "tax relief" to 95 percent of Americans means that the gov't would be sending a check to 20 percent of people who pay no taxes. Then the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers who pay only 4 percent of our revenues won't even be paying that. Then he'll be putting that tax burden for those checks and unpaid taxes on the top 10 percent of wage earners who are already paying 70 percent of the taxes in the country.

This doesn't add up and never did.

The fact that he's still stumping around today, believing that this is possible after the bailout that is being fought over, that massive package that won't fix our housing sector crisis (just keep the credit from shutting down), is insane. The burden for this bailout will fall on the taxpayers.

His talk of these sweeping tax cuts, transferring the burden for the tax cuts onto the top earners, who will already be paying for this bailout and other economic bailouts and crisis funds, is just insane.

On top of the absurd "plan" he announced, in which he's going to create websites and agencies to make sure our programs are good and hire more contract managers to make sure the contracts are more efficient (LOL!), Obama's sounding like a big idiot today.

I wonder how the media will spin this. Will it be like Trinity Church and Rev. Wright where the media ignores that the Emperor Obama has no clothes on?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:36 PM

How can any patriot consider casting their lot with another Republican Administration? This great nation has been brought to its knees by Republican lies, greed, and disdain for our Constitution. Who in their right (wing) mind, could possibly believe that Republicans are up to the tasks ahead. McCain / Palin have neither the ability nor the commitment needed to repair America - they will continue to serve only their real masters, the borderless ultra-wealthy.

If we are to hold any hope that our children will ever forgive us, one must vote for real change. One must vote OBAMA - BIDEN. This may very well be our last best chance to save this wonderful country.

Posted by: Walb608 | September 22, 2008 3:33 PM

The American people have been betrayed by selfish, greedy political hacks that sit on Capital Hill preparing their next sound bite and their next vacation or yelling and pointing legal fingers at one another, all-the-while preening for the cameras with their cronies at their side, and getting nothing at all accomplished. And as a result the checks and balances that used to work so well don't anymore. And an entire country has been stripped and hijacked of the ability to control its own destiny.

We no longer compete for goods and services -- we pay what the misers of the marketplace dictate, and congress turns a blind eye while stuffing their pockets and purses with cash doled out by their favorite lobbyist of the day.

Cynical? You damn right! I'm mad as hell! My family is mad as hell! My neighbors are mad as hell! And generally, I believe the American people are mad as hell, too! It's time for the media to stop blaming an impotent, dumber than dumb administration. It's Congress that has let our country down…and we have nowhere to turn except to vote all the bums out and get new bums!

Posted by: JAH | September 22, 2008 3:32 PM

Aspergirl,

Did you evern read the article you posted?

"Meanwhile, Obama isn't even reading his email, after accusing McCain of not using email:"

He is pointing out how deluded the messages are from spam websites like "moveon-org." If you read the article you would know that he goes on to say what a waste those emails are.

Posted by: Tim | September 22, 2008 3:29 PM

You can talk all you want about how the economy is the most important issue facing Americans today. And you can be sure that we all want proper national security in this world. It's a given. And you should talk about it, because swing voters are going to decide this very close election.

The swing voters are the ones who relish bipartisan efforts to solve our problems. Disagreements in vision are a reality even within political parties. Barry & Hillary proved that. John & George prove that.

This is a great era in which to watch our elected officials move toward working together for the common good, unlike any other era in our liftemes. The economy emerges as the #1 care for voters right now because the swing voters are not the ones who care about the one issue that keeps partisan Democrats and Republicans faithful to their parties.

In the words of Barry Obama, "Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old," he said. "I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."

Some things are simply not a common goal for all Americans.

But take heart, Swing Voters! You get to direct the future of our country!

Posted by: MythBuster | September 22, 2008 3:28 PM

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

CONGRESS WILL NOT ADJOURN UNTIL AFTER THE GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY FIX THEIR COLOSSAL MESS

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN WALL STREET DEREGULATIONS
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN ALSO WANTED TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY (BONEHEAD)
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored landmark legislation in 1999 that removed the walls between banks, investment firms and insurance companies. GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN bill allowed a company like AIG to expand beyond its traditional insurance business (which is still profitable) into exotic new extremely high risk products that brought the company down and created this colossal mess.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
THE GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Average Americans are becoming poorer, because GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET super rich SPECULATORS and corporate CEOs are paying themselves, business partners, friends, and family members at least $10,000,000 annually from MONEY STOLEN FROM THE U.S. TREASURY. These major crimes committed by WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND CEOs have gone beyond greed and into acts of treason against the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Seize the stolen money and properties valued in the $TRILLIONS back from these super criminals for attacking America. Those stolen $MILLIONS / $BILLIONS / $TRILLIONS belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

RULE OF LAW states that the People of the United States will be defended. Those who attack American Citizens will be prosecuted. WALL STREET SPECULATORS and CORPORATE CEOs dictatorship over the AMERICAN PEOPLE is over. Average Americans are not going to accept WALL STREET CORPORATE CRIMES anymore. Rights of Citizen and Average Workers of the United States will be enforced. The AMERICAN PEOPLE will always come before corporate interests, because Americans Love America more than Wall Street Speculators love greed.


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET $TRILLION FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

Direct impact of GOP McCain sponsored deregulations
Bankrupt and floundering
Failure of the investment bank
Government's takeover

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's business model has collapsed

Greed and fear routinely govern GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial markets and GLOBAL CRISIS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET (giant investment houses, brokerage firms, hedge funds, "private equity" firms) irresponsibly TRADED the savings of average Americans (placed LAS VEGAS STYLE BETS on extremely high risk stocks, bonds, and other securities).

DUBIOUS MORTGAGES were PACKAGED into BONDS and SOLD and TRADED. Investment houses had huge incentives to increase LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING).

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET compensation is heavily skewed toward annual bonuses, reflecting the profits traders and managers earned in the tune of lavish base salaries and obscenely high annual bonuses of $20,000,000.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET relies heavily on OBSCENELY HIGH LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING). $3 Trillion (stocks, bonds, other securities) backed by only $80 billion in shareholders' equity while the $2.8 Trillion was LEVERAGE (BORROWED).

Leverage (huge borrowing) can create huge debts (huge principal and interest obligations)

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET is a manic machine for gambling.
Traders and money managers are given huge incentives to do whatever would increase short-term profits.

For decades, GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored legislation that broadly deregulated WALL STREET banking and insurance industries.

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN swept away Consumer Protection legislation and opened the way for a less restricted high risk financial marketplace.

While the GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET boom continued, government (White House, Congress, Supreme Court) looked the other way.

GOP REPUBLICAN Congress resisted tougher regulation and permitted WALL STREET to run out of control at obscenely high LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWED MONEY) RATIOS perpetrating intentional fraud against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET leaders intentionally deceived customers and lenders into taking hazardous risks for short-term rewards regardless of the long-term dangers to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Mortgages went bad. The powerful high leverage went into reverse. Losses eroded firms' capital bases and raised doubts about their survival.

Financial firms took major stupid and wasteful risks that severely damaged the American Economy and impeded economic recovery.

GOP REPUBLICAN STOCK MARKET $TRILLION FRAUD has deepened consumers' pessimism, fear and reluctance to spend. There may be more failures of FINANCIAL FIRMS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial crises resemble the GOP REPUBLICAN illegal miscalculated war.


How were we ever made to believe that the now-collapsing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET model ever made sense? Common sense should have told us that making RISKY BETS with HUGE AMOUNTS of BORROWED MONEY was a DANGEROUS GAME; if the bets pay off you make money beyond your wildest dreams, but if they go bad you face utter ruin.

Common sense should have told us that betting fortunes on meaningless fluctuations in stock, bond or currency values (McCain sponsored deregulated hedge funds) was about as productive as a trip to Las Vegas. Common sense should have told us that buying and selling exotic securities based on other securities based on bundles of mortgages that were treated like mere numbers on a balance sheet (no recognition that the whole iffy construct was based on real people living in real houses that they might or might not be able to afford) was not an intelligent endeavor.

Somehow, we all forgot that "HIGHLY LEVERAGED" is just another way of saying "DEEPLY INDEBTED." Now we've had a wake-up call, and maybe the erstwhile Masters of the Universe will have to stop playing with imaginary money and go back to using the real stuff.


The View Destroyed Unprepared GOP REPUBLICAN John McCain

McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for voting against Women Rights


RUL OF LAW WILL ENFORCE CONFISCATION OF ALL GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS’ AND CEOS’ PERSONAL PROPERTIES RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ECONOMY’S MELTDOWN. All money and properties of the Super Rich CEOs and WALL STREET Speculators domestic and abroad will be confiscated and returned to the United States TREASURY and the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET GET RICH QUICK GREEDY
BILLION DOLLARS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS
REPACKAGED AND SOLD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET ROBBER BARONS
COMMIT TREASON AND GRAND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

Comments uttered by Sarah Palin has angered Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton who described Sarah Palin as an opportunist with no qualifications. Senator Hillary Clinton also stated that John McCain and Sarah Palin’s records on women’s rights are abominable. The country cannot withstand anymore George Bush failures cloaked in McCain/Palin. Asking Sarah Palin to become Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorsed Pro-Women’s Rights ticket Obama / Biden for their outstanding works bettering the lives of women.

GOP REPUBLICANS ARE AUTHORITARIANS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH OR DEMOCRACY. GOP REPUBLICAN ONLY INTERESTS ARE POWER AND MONEY.


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).


PALIN FAILIN RETURNED HOME TO 2,000 ALASKAN PROTESTERS WHO CHEERFULLY CHANTED "O-BAM-AH.

Gov. Sarah Palin returned home to 2,000 protesters outside the Anchorage library who wanted to correct the widespread impression that the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

"Last week a group of women were sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement,"

A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin Failin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

Asking Sarah Palin to become the Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

Sarah Palin Failin Protesters Held Signs Reading:

Bush In A Skirt
Palin Be Failin
Jesus Was a Community Organizer
Palin Failin: Thanks But No Thanks
Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time
Candidate To Nowhere
Rape Kits Should Be Free
Voted For Her Once: Never Again!
Community Organizers are the Real Patriots
Barbies for War
I Shall Not Be Pandered To
Give Palin Failin Your Vote AND Your Draft Age Child
Sarah Palin Failin: So Far Right She's Wrong
Alaska Is Not Frisco
Coat Hangers for McCain
Sarah Palin Failin, Undoing 150 Years of American Feminism
Hockey Mama for Obama (on a hockey stick)


Cheerful chants of "O-bam-ah.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICES

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, and its a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer,
become President of the Harvard Law Review,
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters,
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people,
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee,
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees,
you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years
on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less
than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, and cook caribou/grizzly/wolf stew, then you're qualified to become the country's second
highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters,
all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,
and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,
you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only,
with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm
to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family,
your family's values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and
once was a member of a group that advocated: the secession of Alaska from the USA,
your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA

LONDON - BRITISH PRIME MINISTER GORDON BROWN voiced support for UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA, saying he would help Americans struggling with an economic downturn.

In a move seen by some British media as a break with a political convention requiring foreign leaders to remain neutral ahead of US elections, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN praised MR. OBAMA as a fellow “progressive politician” who would help ordinary Americans in tough times. With eight weeks to go before the presidential election, MR. OBAMA and his Republican rival John McCain are neck-and-neck in domestic opinion polls.

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN described the race for the White House as “electrifying” and said: “It is the DEMOCRATS who are generating the ideas to help people through more difficult times.”

“To help prevent people from losing their home, BARACK OBAMA has proposed a Foreclosure Prevention Fund to increase emergency pre-foreclosure counselling, and help families facing repossession,” he wrote in an article in The Monitor magazine, a monthly political publication.


2008 UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL RACE

DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN D STUDENTS

OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW AND PRESIDENT OF HARVARD LAW REVIEW
BIDEN OF SYRACUSE LAW

MCCAIN OF NAVY ACADEMY LAST PLACE D STUDENT
PALIN FAILIN OF MOOSE COLLEGE

GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

STOP DESTRUCTIVE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM OIL SPECUALTARS (OIL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN, PALIN FAILIN)

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE

WHY A BARREL OF OIL ILLEGALLY SHOT UP FROM $24 TO $145 DURING THE GOP REPUBLICAN (MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PALIN FAILIN) ADMINISTRATION


GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH I OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH II OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN CHENEY OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN RICE OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN GUILIANI OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN PALIN FAILIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL COMMISSIONER AND OIL STOCKHOLDER


TOGETHER WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ARE ALL GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRES AND OIL STOCKHOLDERS


GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK


CAN YOU SAY GOP REPUBLICAN CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY, AND SPECULATE FOR OBSCENELY HIGH PROFIT RETURNS ON WALL STREET OIL STOCKS

WAKE UP AMERICA, BECAUCE THE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THE CRIMINAL GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONSPIRATORS

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE AS A VITAL RESOURCE

AMERICA AND AMERICANS FIRST

NO MORE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOOOOIIIIILLLLL SPECULATION AND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE AMERICA, THEN PROVE IT AND STOP THE GOP REPUBLICAN RAIDERS UPON OUR U.S. TREASURY AND OUTSOURCING OF U.S. JOBS


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS

Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?


How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.

FOUR MORE YEARS ANYONE?

Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin Failin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

D Student Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin Failin are not reflective of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

If Palin Failin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


REPORT SAYS GOP REPUBLICAN OIL AGENCY RAN AMOK

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE OIL MARKETING GROUP


GOP REPUBLICAN Government officials in charge of collecting BILLIONS of dollars worth of royalties from OIL and gas companies accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drug use and illicit sex with employees of the energy firms, federal investigators reported.

Investigators from the Interior Department's inspector general's office said more than a dozen employees, including the former director of the OIL royalty program, took meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings from industry representatives. The report alleges that the former director, also netted more than $30,000 from improper outside work.

The report from Inspector General contains fresh allegations about the practices at the beleaguered royalty-in-kind program of Interior's Minerals Management Service, which last year collected more than $4 billion worth of OIL and natural gas from companies given contracts to tap energy on federal and Indian lands and offshore. The revelations come as Congress is set to consider opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and areas off the coast of Florida for drilling.

The royalty-in-kind program, based near Denver, allows energy companies to pay the government in OIL and gas, rather than cash, for the privilege of drilling on government land. It has been the subject of multiple investigations since 2006 by the Interior Department's secretary, its inspector general, the Justice Department and Congress for alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest.

In the report released yesterday, investigators said they "discovered a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" in which employees accepted gratuities "with prodigious frequency." The report cited one e-mail from a Shell Pipeline representative asking a woman in the royalty office to attend "tailgating festivities" at a Houston Texans football game: "You're invited . . . have you and the girls meet at my place at 6am for bubble baths and final prep."

Besides Shell, the energy company employees mentioned in the report worked for Chevron, Hess and Gary-Williams Energy. The social outings detailed in the report included alcohol-, cocaine- and marijuana-filled parties where certain employees of the Minerals Management Service were nicknamed the "MMS Chicks" by the energy employees. The companies paid for federal workers to attend football and baseball games, PGA Tour events, Colorado ski trips, paintball outings and "treasure hunts," investigators found.

"The OIL INDUSTRY holds shocking sway over the ADMINISTRATION and even KEY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES,". "This is why we must not allow BIG OIL'S AGENDA to be jammed through CONGRESS."

The current director of the Minerals Management Service, said that he takes the report "very seriously".
Employees identified in the report told investigators that they didn't think ethics rules applied to them because of their "unique" role in the agency and that they needed to socialize with industry representatives for "market intelligence," according to the report. Those employees, some of whom have been transferred to different offices, have been recommended for internal administrative action.

The inspector general's release comprised three separate reports, including one devoted to the program's director. It alleges that Smith improperly worked part time for Geomatrix Consultants, an Oakland, Calif.-based environmental and engineering firm, and marketed the company to government clients.

Additionally, the report said that the director had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he paid to buy cocaine, promising her a bonus in return. The director admitted to the sexual encounter.

The director, who now works for a private OIL company in Denver, did not respond to requests for comment. Investigators referred their findings to federal prosecutors.

Justice officials also declined to comment on their decision about the criminal case against the highest-ranking official named in the report director of the Minerals Management Service, who worked in Washington. She is accused of improperly arranging a million-dollar deal for two retired employees.

The wife of the procurement policy administrator for the WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, retired from government service Jan. 31. She declined to comment on the report. She told investigators she had a "personal issue. The Justice Department's decision to charge created a rift with Interior officials.

One of the two retired employees pleaded guilty in July to a federal conflict-of-interest charge related to the investigation. Another employee has been under investigation for similar conflict-of-interest allegations.

Before he left, Mayberry created a job for himself by writing the job description and the criteria for selecting the winning bidder, court documents show. He started a company out of his Texas home and was awarded a $150,000 contract in June 2003. He later hired Dial, the report said. Mayberry's firm collected $788,000 worth of contracts.

The royalty-in-kind program, which started as a small pilot project a decade ago, has been touted as a way to simplify the way OIL AND GAS COMPANIES pay for the right to drill on federal land and offshore. Instead of calculating the profit from a well, they can simply give the government one-eighth to one-sixth of whatever they take from the ground.

Revenue rose quickly, from $1.5 billion in 2004 to $4.3 billion last fiscal year. But the growth occurred "in an environment with relatively unstructured in-house oversight," the congressionally convened Royalty Policy Committee said in a December report. Previous reports have said that companies were allowed to revise their million-dollar bids for projects indiscriminately, that government workers routinely failed to seek out legal advice on complicated deals and that the agency used outdated computers and a $150 million software program that resulted in royalty money going uncollected.

A lawyer who represented states and tribes entitled to a cut of the royalties, said it was nearly impossible to get accurate numbers from the agency. "They kept hemming and hawing," she said.

In late 2006 questions arose over its handling of leases written in 1998 and 1999 that allowed major OIL companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico to avoid BILLIONS of dollars in royalty payments.

Former Interior Department auditors accused the agency of failing to bill companies. "We weren't allowed to audit them. It was disturbing," said an auditor who sued the federal government for not collecting royalties. "You couldn't see what was going on."

The minerals agency director said that the harm done by the royalty employees was to public trust and TREASURY, and acknowledged that financial considerations were given to firms that gave favors to federal employees, and he said the contracts will be audited.


Do you really question the motives of GOP Republicans Criminals? America must Immediately Nationalize U.S. OIL and Gas For National Defense.


DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET AND MUDVILLE

U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama

President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain


Growing Up

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s modem of operations. WillObscenelyRich Crash Every Plane McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.


Marriage

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain.


The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.

Hillary Clinton Will Destroy Sarah Palin Failin From Mooseville College.


Navy pilot John Sidney D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III was being held prisoner of war. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is receiving large donations.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John Crash Every Plane McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before Crash Every Plane McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN Crash Every Plane McCain: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a Crash Every Plane McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John Crash Every Plane McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When Crash Every Plane McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of Crash Every Plane McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John Crash Every Plane McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

Crash Every Plane McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the AMERICAN PEOPLE, robbing the National TREASURY, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Crash Every Plane McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

Crash Every Plane McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

Crash Every Plane McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE


GOP REPUBLICAN PLANE/TRAILER WRECK MCCAIN/PALIN FAILIN

With Wall Street OOOIIIIILLLLLL stocks paid under the table to Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner from OOOOOIIIIIILLLLLLL Millionaires Crash Every Plane McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Guiliani; it appears that Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner, her large family, dogs, cats, chickens, and hogs can now move out of their trailer. Guiliani went from GOP front runner to anonymous polygamist. Guiliani is the biggest joke and shares home dysfunction with Bush, Cheney, Rice, Crash Every Plane McCain and now Sarah trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner. OOOOIIIIILLLLLLL MILLIONS stolen from Our TREASURY did not help their dysfunctional families.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich by robbing the American TREASURY and outsourcing American jobs party has officially been dissolved. Plane wreck McCrash and Train wreck Trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners have destroyed the already dysfunctional GOP Republican Party of Corporate Welfare Thieves.

Democrats and Independents are the official parties. Blessings to America and the World for peaceful cooperation and the elimination of unjust wars for GOP profits. The People First Party has arrived and Rich Wall Street millionaires will no longer use the AMERICAN PEOPLE as their cattle. Americans today are all free independent Democratic People in pursuit of happiness in the spirit of cooperation.

“We joined up with an altruistic vision of promoting freedom and justice around the world,” said Vince Emanuel, a Marine lance corporal who did a tour of duty in Iraq from August 2004 to April 2005, explaining why he was marching and protesting the GOP Republican Convention.

“Except we saw the killing of innocent people and the destruction of property ... for a lot of us it was very disenfranchising."

The veterans group tried to hand a message to the campaign of GOP Republican John Crash Every Plane McCain calling for a withdrawal from Iraq, reparations for the Iraqi people, and full medical benefits for veterans. No one from John Crash Every Plane McCain’s campaign received them.


If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

Prerequisite for the United Stats President and Vice President is advance degrees, especially in Constitutional Law. D student McCain and hillbilly Palin Failin are excluded from the highest offices in the World. The debates will be fun: Harvard Law vs. Crash Jet and Mudville.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS

Posted by: GOP REPUBLICAN $TRILLION WALL STREET FRAUD | September 22, 2008 3:27 PM

Mccain doesn't even know what email is.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 3:27 PM

Meanwhile, Obama isn't even reading his email, after accusing McCain of not using email:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_deletes_another_unread?utm_source=onion_rss_washpost

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:24 PM

I think that McCain is winning today's round. Obama's plan was absurdly infantile. LOL.

Obama wants to hire more managers of federal contracts, and that will make sure contract spending is more efficient (is he from Planet Clueless?). This must be from the inverse universe of federal bureaucracy, in which more feds in the management chain makes programs lighter and cheaper.

And Obama wants to create an agency to tell good subsidy programs from bad ones. This is from the staunch supporter of the corn ethanol biofuels program, the most useless, destructive, food-inflation-causing subsidy program in the world!

Obama must come from the George Bush level of look-busy executive: reorganize or create new agencies when there is a crisis and that makes it look like you are doing something. Create a "Homeland Security" department, to make it look like you're creating more homeland security.

Obama would be just a left-wing version of Bush.

I think Obama, with his absurd plan, has lost the economic joust of the day... Wonder how the Obama-fixated media will hype his lame, infantile plan as something good? How low will they sink in their partisanship?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:21 PM

McCain knows all about bailing out rich bankers and screwing over middle class and poor people, he's been doing it for years.


-McCain - Founding Member of the Keating Five:

McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)

Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


-McCain - Mafia Ties:

In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards, and regrets for not attending, to Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona. Another politician to send regrets was Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion.


Here's some straight-talk, my friends:

http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
.

Posted by: out of touch | September 22, 2008 3:17 PM

"FAKE JakeD posts at 2:44 PM, 2:37 PM, and 2:30 PM."

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:52 PM

It's obvious you've frustrated someone beyond their ability to reply.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 22, 2008 3:14 PM

Dan,

I've taught theatre history for years, and I know what kabuki is. I've increasingly seen people use the term "kabuki dance" in print. but I have no idea what it means. Kabuki is a Japanese theatre form, and the term means literally sing, acting, and dance (or maybe choreographed movement), so "kabuki dance" is at very least a bit redundant. More importantly, WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MEAN!!??

Posted by: JimC | September 22, 2008 3:13 PM

With his irresponsible selection of Sarah (Earmarks) Palin as vice presidential candidate, John McCain has disqualified himself from consideration for the presidency.

He was banking on the hope that American voters could once again be distracted from serious consideration of issues of war and economics by superficial wedge concerns. Palin is a walkin', talkin', shootin' wedge issue. She utterly lack credibility on any issue of lasting importance and now her shallowness and flippancy has rubbed on on McCain.

He should return home to his seven houses and continue continue waxing his 13 cars while he tries to figure out a way to fire the head of the SEC.

Posted by: dee | September 22, 2008 3:13 PM

There is a political dimension to this issue as well: There are fears that such weaponry could be deployed to degrade the health of persons or public officials targeted for reasons of ideology.


Posted by: scrivener | September 22, 2008 2:48 PM

scrivener,
Time to refresh the tin foil in you hat, pal. "They" know who you are now.

Posted by: HisRoc | September 22, 2008 3:12 PM

the us is having trouble getting financing. the other nations will be more amenable to helping us when we don't have a dick at the helm and an imperialist foreign policy. goes without saying, barack is a better thinker and is far better equipped to change our course here.

Posted by: bush khan | September 22, 2008 3:06 PM

If you're John McCain, you know you're losing your fake "Man of the People" image when Newsweek begins a story:

"When you (McCain) have seven homes, that's a lot of garages to fill. After the fuss over the number of residences owned by the two presidential nominees, NEWSWEEK looked into the candidates' cars. And based on public vehicle-registration records,

Here's the score.

John and Cindy McCain: 13.
Barack and Michelle Obama: 1.
.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/160091
.


Not to mention when it closes by noting that the car your wife (Cindy McCain) actually drives isn't even registered in her name, but in that of her massive beer distributorship.


But, uh, Obama is elitist because, uh, look over there! Arugula!!!

Posted by: Asper Chick | September 22, 2008 3:04 PM

Actually, both Obama and McCain (and Biden, actually) could be in the Senate working on this. But I think Obama's holding back was actually more statesman-like than McCain's response (if they get involved the issue will get highly politicized, doing more harm than good).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 3:03 PM

Republicans for Obama and Biden

Can't take it any more ... 8 years is ENOUGH

Posted by: Kristi2 | September 22, 2008 3:02 PM

CAN WE TRUST the same people in the Republican Congress to do any different that George Bush' Administration ... after 8 years?

Posted by: The Straight Talk | September 22, 2008 3:01 PM

In October, all of us who have money in tax-deferred annuities will be getting our 3rd quarter statements. I went online to see mine and the loss of money is sickening. Wait until a few million voters see the numerical free fall that has happened to their retirement plans just a week or more from election day.

Posted by: CB1231 | September 22, 2008 2:59 PM

FAKE JakeD posts at 2:44 PM, 2:37 PM, and 2:30 PM.

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:52 PM

the govnt taking over all these private companies reminds me of a communist system. to me, its just the same pig with a different lipstick color.
regardless! we are supposed to live in a capitalist world.
otherwise, lets socialize health care!

Posted by: manuel | September 22, 2008 2:49 PM

PLEASE IMMEDIATELY FORWARD TO WALTER PINCUS, WASHINGTON POST RE: "DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS" ARTICLE IN TODAY'S EDITIONS

(cannot post to his article for unknown reasons)

"Directed Energy Weapons," even hand-held models which emit silent, potentially lethal bursts of radiation, are widely deployed NOW among military, intelligence/security and law enforcement forces.

Mr. Pincus needs to follow up because this Senate report is incomplete at best and deceptive at worst.

This Senate report seems replete with disinformation when it states that this radiation-based weaponry is not operational. An April 2008 article in the FBI's Law Enforcement Bulletin discusses the issue and makes clear that such weaponry is currently in use.

Victims of so-called organized community "gang stalking" maintain that directed energy weapons are being used against civilian targets to degrade their health.

A former mainstream media reporter who is now an internet columnist has written extensively about this, based on his own personal experiences. His work can be found at http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

There is a political dimension to this issue as well: There are fears that such weaponry could be deployed to degrade the health of persons or public officials targeted for reasons of ideology.

Posted by: scrivener | September 22, 2008 2:48 PM

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: Kristi | September 22, 2008 2:47 PM

The Death of the Republican Philosophy...


Last week was historic. It is a week that financial and economic people will study for generations. It also marked the end of certain elements of the Republican Party's ideology. Below are statements the Republican party can no longer claim as part of their core ideology.


*We are the party of small government:

Actually, this week simply added to the the end of this claim. Under Bush II, discretionary spending has increased from $640 billion to $1.040 trillion dollars. Also remember that Bush had a Republican controlled congress for 6 of those years. However, Paulson will send a package to Congress which totals $800 billion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aB_rf1rurtio&refer=home


The Treasury will create a new agency to buy bad debt (which the WSJ's Marketbeat blog has called the Treasury Garbage Machine). In short, when the Republicans control all branches of government they spend like drunken sailors.

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/


*We Support Free Markets:

Last week the SEC banned short-selling in financial shares:

The Securities and Exchange Commission has announced a ban on short-selling financial stocks over the next two weeks. Short-selling is essentially betting that a stock's price will go down. The SEC hopes the ban will reduce downward pressure on the market, but some think it will backfire. Wall Streeter Barry Ritholtz tells Madeleine Brand that the SEC action reverses 1,000 years of theory about how free markets should work.
In short, markets are supported when they are going up. But when they are going down, we're going to do everything we can to prevent them from going down.


*We Are the Party of Fiscal Responsibility:

No they aren't. No Republican president has ever balanced a budget. While Republicans have argued that Reagan had to contend with Democrats, Bush II did not for 6 years. Under this scenario where the Republicans controlled all branches of government they never even came close to balancing a budget.


*We are the Party of Personal Responsibility:

No you're not. When companies make really stupid decisions the Federal government bails them out. Just ask any shareholder of AIG. Or any taxpayer who will now help to finance the latest government bail-out.


Simply put, last week demonstrated a key point: when the going gets tough, the Republicans become socialists:

If you are a fan of irony, consider this: The conservative movement has utterly hated FDR, and his New Deal programs like Medicaid, Social Security, FDIC, Fannie Mae (1938), and the SEC for nearly 80 years. And for the past 8 years, a conservative was in the White House, with a very conservative agenda. For something like 16 of the past 18 years, the conservative dominated GOP has controlled Congress. Those are the facts.


We now see that the grand experiment of deregulation has ended, and ended badly. The deregulation movement is now an historical footnote, just another interest group, and once in power they turned into socialists. Indeed, judging by the actions of the conservatives in power, and not the empty rhetoric that comes out of think tanks, the conservative movement has effectively turned the United States into a massive Socialist state, an appendage of Communist Russia, China and Venezuela.

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/09/the-new-new-dea.html


Whenever a Republican talking head says they are for any of the above mentioned things they should be questioned to explain how that statement (I'm for free markets) jibes with banning short selling of an entire sector of the market. Whenever a Republican says he is for smaller government, have him explain the nearly doubling of discretionary spending when the Republicans controlled all branches of government.


Simply put, this week demonstrated how hollow many of the Republican values are. They sound great on paper, but aren't put into practice when that result might cause financial harm to another Republican (McCain).

Posted by: DrainYou | September 22, 2008 2:45 PM

"The default position of the tone of the campaign has been pettiness and small-mindedness, lipstick and Britney."

McCain was a POW! It's UNAMERICAN to criticize him! Do you know how long he spent in the Hanoi Hilton? And here you are trying to blame him for avoiding the issues! Shameful!

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:44 PM

"An incoming president always must deal with the table already being set when he arrives in office. Of course it is nice to know where someone stands and the general disposition of that person, but that person rarely has the opportunity to chose his fights."

Yes, sad so say that whoever actually takes office will have to spend the first...3 years trying to detangle the absolutely abhorrent mess that Bush has left behind.

Posted by: Xander | September 22, 2008 2:38 PM

This is why we need more deregulation! Every time things come crashing down, the people who got them into the mess get a government bailout and make the smart investors rich! Every time someone loses huge piles of cash, it goes SOMEWHERE, after all.

Just imagine if we had been able to privatize social security and deregulate health insurance? There would be TRILLIONS of dollars out there for smart investors like me to gobble up while all the chumps go bankrupt due to the stock market crash!

Man, I'd be richer than Bill Gates if I could cash in when all you whiners were losing your houses! McCain/Palin in 2008!

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:37 PM

Larry Clifton.

So you're basically saying that there's no hope either way huh? Well, I'm glad that I don't share your opinion. I would be prone to mass amounts of alcohol and dark corners.

Posted by: Xander | September 22, 2008 2:35 PM

An incoming president always must deal with the table already being set when he arrives in office. Of course it is nice to know where someone stands and the general disposition of that person, but that person rarely has the opportunity to chose his fights.

Posted by: Guy Thompto | September 22, 2008 2:32 PM

Today, it is extremily important to put politics aside and face the future. We are about to grow government by emormous leaps and bounds whether we want to or not.
We will acomplishe this in one of two ways:

We will turn over all control to Democrats Pelosi, Reid and Obama, ceding any checks and balances to the most liberal government in modern times, virtually assuring dingy medical clinics in seedy areas of cities and a communist- like ecomomy based on widespread poverty and third-world values. Keep in mind that this Democrat congress has consistently maintained single-digit approval ratings and Obama could not attract 50 percent of his own party's votes.

On the other hand, we will elect Mccain/palin to oversee a leftist congress that almost no one approves.

http://americanpoliticalblog.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Larry Clifton | September 22, 2008 2:31 PM

We need a strong leader, who will make snap decisions to fire people they can't actually fire before anyone fully understands the situation! This is no time for calm, rational leadership that seeks to understand the issues and looks for the root causes.

We need to rush ill-considered emergency legislation through Congress, because thinking takes much too long. Fear not! We're absolutely certain that taking a decisive stand, even a stand we're forced to strongly reverse ourselves on the next day, is better than thinking things through. And we're absolutely certain that rushing this legislation will cause NO unforeseen problems.

This is not a time for people to consult economic experts. This is a time for the Decider to decide, no matter HOW little they know about the economy, or how many of their advisers helped cause the current mess!

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:30 PM

"me want paling for president she have safety goggle for shooting and hair up on top of head she will kill russia france irak anybody who doesn't do what we say and macaine can be vice president cause he has cancer and wont be around long and also she hottie and that make usa best place hillary no hottie but palling really hottie so who you gonna vote for dummy

oh yeah and she built bridge to no one no matter what obama say and she can fire state trooper any time she want to and when she president you will pay for laughing at safety goggles cause she get payback"

My brain hurts...

Posted by: Xander | September 22, 2008 2:16 PM

"If my company is forced to cut back
from obama's new taxes and my job
gets eliminated?"

The companies that will see the highest corporate tax under Obama's tax plan HAVE ALREADY sent jobs overseas. Obama's plan includes taxing corporations more that outsource labor, so expect some corporations to offer more new jobs because it is cheaper then paying a china kid and the tax that comes with it.

Posted by: Tim | September 22, 2008 2:15 PM

An amazing line from John McCain coming out in an actuarial magazine called Contingencies where ... well, let's let McCain tell us:

"Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."
.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/mccain-on-banking-and-health/


Obviously this was written before the Lehman Brothers, AIG, Merrill Lynch debacle of the last week, and just as obviously it came out before McCain did his about face from rabid free-market anti-regulation supply-sider into a populist, market hating regulator. What's funny is that it is hitting people's mailboxes this week exactly as the banking sector McCain is highlighting collapses.


But the fact is that the banking industry was collapsing long before this week, and long before this article was submitted to Contingencies. We've been in an accelerating free-fall in our financial industry for more than a year, starting in August 2007 (and sooner for many).


But McCain still as recently as August 2008 was pointing to the free-market, minimally-regulated banking industry as a model for what he wanted to do to the health care industry. While his model was collapsing all around him he was saying, "See how great this is? Let's build another one!"


The only reason he's changed sides on the issue is the same reason he put out an ad on stem cells and doesn't mention abortion -- he can't win the election by telling people what he really believes and what he is really going to do.


He thought he could play the free-market card on health care and win, but the debacle that reached a deafening crescendo (we hope) over the past week had made socialists of most hard-core libertarian Republicans. McCain knows that free-market deregulatory talk is a sure ticket back to his Senate seat in January, and so he has changed his language.


But I don't believe for a second that if he wins he won't continue to push deregulation and free-market policies. He believed in the free market in the face of Enron, Worldcom, the burst of the housing bubble, the failure of a series of banks in the summer, and all the way until public opinion turned.


He has proven that the only straight talk you'll get out of him now, assuming you ever did get real straight talk, is straight to his pollster to find out what the right thing to say is this week.


But when he wins and has a four year unbreakable lease then all bets are off and his cronies, handlers and right wing base will stick it to us again.

Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 22, 2008 2:15 PM

me want paling for president she have safety goggle for shooting and hair up on top of head she will kill russia france irak anybody who doesn't do what we say and macaine can be vice president cause he has cancer and wont be around long and also she hottie and that make usa best place hillary no hottie but palling really hottie so who you gonna vote for dummy

oh yeah and she built bridge to no one no matter what obama say and she can fire state trooper any time she want to and when she president you will pay for laughing at safety goggles cause she get payback

Posted by: D Miner | September 22, 2008 2:12 PM

"No, as I pointed out, early voting started TODAY in Georgia, Kentucky and Virginia."

Bah, a joke completely ruined. Now I must hang my head in shame.

Posted by: Xander | September 22, 2008 2:11 PM

JakeD:

You can be coy and say you only asked a question, but you cannot hide from G-d who knows the intent with which you asked it. You can try to fool yourself, you can try to fool others, but there is one who you cannot fool.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 2:11 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-21-early-voting_N.htm#Close

Wonder why is there early voting this year in some states even before the debates?

Was there always early voting before in the same states?

Or is it new to make one candidate look better before the debates?

Is there any party who is responsible for the independent monitoring of these early voters' ballots?

Hmmmm......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 2:10 PM

Xander:

No, as I pointed out, early voting started TODAY in Georgia, Kentucky and Virginia.

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:10 PM

The idea that we should pick for our President, the guy that says he will lower taxes is a bit like saying that the more clever credit card holder is the one who keeps getting a higher and higher credit limit on his cards. It is great to keep as much of ones paycheck as possible but the government pays interest on it's loans just like you do on a credit card balance. The federal budget includes ever larger amounts of money to simply pay the interest on its loans, which leaves less and less to actually do things.

We now spend something like $500 billion per year on interest payments on the national debt. If our economy gets worse, so that tax revenues go down, we could be in a position where the federal government is spending most of it's budget on interest, as it is the interest is many times more than all the "earmarks and pork" that is recieving so much attention. We need to raise taxes not lower them.

Posted by: captbilly | September 22, 2008 2:08 PM

"If you are an Obama or undecided voter, I agree -- please wait to vote -- until November 5th preferably ; )"

Yes, and to all the McCain supporters out there, I hope you voted on September 8th, otherwise it's too late. :P

Posted by: Xander | September 22, 2008 2:08 PM

If you are an Obama or undecided voter, I agree -- please wait to vote -- until November 5th preferably ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 2:04 PM

This early voting thing is not a good idea, unless you feel your candidate may be damaged prior to the election and want to get the votes out now. Both sides are calling for it, but it seems in the end it does not achieve anything. Let the people see the debates and then vote. Don't cast your vote now and regret it later... There will be plenty of time for that after the elections.

Posted by: tomyr95a | September 22, 2008 1:59 PM

There should be no bailouts. Just a law requiring each holder of the mortgage to refund the "profits" they made in buying, or selling a bad or unqualified mortgage all the way back to the originator. Let them all share the pain...not the taxpayer!

The bad/unqualified loans must be sent back to the originating broker/bank/lender for collection. If they don't collect, they write the debt off just like it has always been. If they go out of business....too bad.

If a originating lender has a high percentage of these bad/unqualified loans...then all bonus plans, stock options, salary increases should be suspended until the executives bring the delinquency down to acceptable averages.

Executives who abused the system must be held accountable and made to return salary, bonus, commissions and face legal penalties for non-compliance with accepted accounting and lending practices.


Posted by: PRH | September 22, 2008 1:58 PM

My Friend(s),

You owe $2,293.53 dollars to Wall Street Fat Cats Inc.... check, cash or charge?


How do you owe this money?

It's simple, George Bush wants a 700 Billion dollar bailout for Fat Cat bankers.
--700 Billion dollars divided by the current U.S. population = $2,293.53


How the did this happen?

Thank John McCain and his top economic advisor Phil Gramm.
In 1999, after 60 years of successful regulation under the 1933 Glass-Stegall Act Republicans like Phil Gramm, John McCain and a bunch of Bank Lobbyists deregulated the banking industry and allowed banks to get involved in overly risky lending.

As predicted, those banks failed, taking others with them and we're now facing another stock market meltdown.

This wasn't the first (or even the second) time something like this happened:
-In 1982, under Republican Ronald Reagan the Savings and Loan/Banking industry was deregulated.
-Again, Republicans Phil Gram, John McCain, Lobbyists and fat cats like Charles Keating decided deregulation was a good idea. Let the Savings and Loan Companies do what they want!

-John McCain took hundreds of thousands of dollars of gifts and campaign contributions from Keating in exchange for doing his bidding.
-John McCain's gift to Charles Keating was the deregulation of S & L banks.


The results were frighteningly similar:

-Tax payers bailed out Fat Cat Bankers like Charles Keating with $124.6 billion.

-Google "Keating 5" and you'll see it all.


The pattern is simple:

-Republicans like John McCain, Phil Gramm and Lobbyists deregulate.
-Wall Street gets rich.
-You pay the bill.


Now John McCain who self-identifies as a "deregulator" wants to:

1.) Deregulate Health Care
2.) Privatize Social Security
We can't afford more of the same with John McCain.

How do you think Health Care and Social Security will turn out if John McCain and Phil Gramm get their way?

Wall Street doesn't care if you lost your job, or if you can't make your mortgage. But when they need a bailout, it's "Hello Big Government!"


Thanks,
Wall Street Fat Cats Inc.

P.S. - Your kids owe $2,293.53 no matter how old they are.
Your parents owe $2,293.53 no matter how little they make.

Posted by: Bush + McCain = "W"orthless | September 22, 2008 1:57 PM

Don't forget that Clinton tied bush's hands too. He gave Bush a budget surplus. What could bush do but squander it away with immoral tax cuts. And then to make sure he continued the republican habit of screwing up the budget he was forced to start a war in the wrong place to waste 4,000 soldiers and 10 billion a month. Bush's destruction will continue for generations. But the democrats were afraid to impeach him. They put party before country and we will all pay the price.

Posted by: john | September 22, 2008 1:56 PM

This is like obama saying he will
cut 95% of individual income taxes,
by transferring the tax load to the
corporations we work for.
how will this tax burden not affect
the people who work for these corp's
or as shareholders own these corps.
If my company is forced to cut back
from obama's new taxes and my job
gets eliminated?
I will be be thankful the taxbreak
I never realized.
this is an example of media bias,
they keep pushing the 95% taxcut
figure, which is a rhetorical lie.
both from the fact that 40% of americans
pay no income tax, so it would actually
be a direct payout from me, to them,
thank you uncle sam,
and the fact that the tax burden on
the ECONOMY is going to INCREASE.
this is the opposite of the republican
idea of tax cut, which is to spur growth.
this obama 'taxcut' will be a weight
around the neck of our economy.
Yes I know, you as an american
have never heard anything about
the obama 'taxcut' except.
WOW YEAH he is going to increase
social programs AND give us all
money back!
why hasnt someone thought of this
before, this obama is a miracle worker.
THIS IS THE LIE
THEY REFER TO AS MEDIA BIAS
the same old say anything
to get elected bs.
NOBAMAMAMA

Posted by: usa3 | September 22, 2008 1:55 PM

To believe there is no liberal bias,
is simply denial.
This is the same 'blame bush' atmosphere
that does nothing for our country.
This is like obama saying he will
cut 95% of individual income taxes,
by transferring the tax load to the
corporations we work for.
how will this tax burden not affect
the people who work for these corp's
or as shareholders own these corps.
If my company is forced to cut back
from obama's new taxes and my job
gets eliminated?
I will be be thankful for the taxbreak
I never realized.
this is an example of media bias,
they keep pushing the 95% taxcut
figure, which is a rhetorical lie.
both from the fact that 40% of americans
pay no income tax, so it would actually
be a direct payout from me, to them,
thank you uncle sam,
and the fact that the tax burden on
the ECONOMY is going to INCREASE.
this is the opposite of the republican
idea of tax cut, which is to spur growth.
this obama 'taxcut' will be a weight
around the neck of our economy.
Yes I know, you as an american
have never heard anything about
the obama 'taxcut' except.
WOW YEAH he is going to increase
social programs AND give us all
money back!
why hasnt someone thought of this
before, this obama is a miracle worker.
THIS IS THE LIE
THEY REFER TO AS MEDIA BIAS
the same old say anything
to get elected bs.

Posted by: usa3 | September 22, 2008 1:54 PM

JakeD Said..."God DAMN America!!"

G-d does not need to damn America...the Republicans and their evangelical fundamentalist have already damned America with their false ideology, black and white thinking, unconsciousness, and failed policies. 200 Billion Surplus squandered into a 500 Billion deficit. A failed and immoral War.(Oh the surge!!...forget it...that doesn't work with intelligent people) 10 Trillion national Debt, A bankrupt nation, greed, a failing financial system, corruption...etc. G-d does not damn anyone...Republicans have done that for us by purporting to speak for G-d.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2008

Posted by: ProudLiberal | September 22, 2008 1:51 PM

Least Obama and McCain are one of the few politicians that dont seem to have a DUI the list of politicians with DUI's is crazy. See the LIst of Famous People and Politicians with DUI Soo I guess in that respect they are OK., but in all areas they are a bad choice.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 22, 2008 1:50 PM

"The default position of the tone of the campaign has been pettiness and small-mindedness, lipstick and Britney."

That's how Rove/Schmidt play it. Ignore big issues. Make the race about something small and intangible.

McCain is running from his past but it keeps catching up with him. He's either flipped on everything he used to hold dear or he's stubbornly clung to failed policies for ideological reasons.

The McCain of 2000 is history. The McCain of today has bought the Bush/Rove political slime machine. America needs better.

Bush/McCain. No More Years!!

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 22, 2008 1:50 PM

To the Pastor. I have one in my country to, my son. You are not god but hoefully a leader. Don't see what your meaning is , but is dicusting. See you in Hell I guess? But what do I know.

Posted by: justada55+ | September 22, 2008 1:49 PM

McCain's true colors have shown this past week; he is incapable of dealing with the daunting issues, as the above article points out, facing the new Administration. Lacking vision, knowing only the "good-old-boy" way of dealing, McCain is severely outdated in his knowledge and skill bases. A fellow conservative, George Will cut him no slack on yesterday's ABC's TV morning news program

The lacking experience Palin has become a drag on the campaign due to her lie telling and the 'troopergate' investigation which now is being seen by voters as a cover-up. The wheels and axles both have fallen from the Straight Talk Express. The McCain campaign's Rovian minions have met their Waterloo!

Posted by: Lou R | September 22, 2008 1:38 PM

I don't recall Jesus teaching against asking questions. Keep in mind that I was simply asking "pastor"123 if he/she knew who said it, or did you happen to miss that post? And, if you think this won't all be brought up again when Rev. Wright releases his book next month, you've got another thing coming.

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 1:38 PM

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/media-alert-palin-meeting-diversion.html

Sunday, September 21, 2008
Ignore That Shiny Bauble, Everything Has Changed

Washington Post:

"The list of foreign leaders GOP vice president Sarah Palin will meet this week in New York just keeps getting longer.

In addition to having private sessions with Afghan president Hamid Karzai and Colombian president Alvaro Uribe scheduled for Tuesday, the Alaska governor now has a more elaborate list of heads of state lined up for Wednesday.

According to the campaign, she will meet Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili; Ukrainian President Victor Yushchenko; Iraqi President Jalal Talabani; Pakistani President Asif Ali Zadari; and Indian Prime Minister Manhoman Singh in a single day.

And Wednesday offers Palin a tete-a-tete with another category of globe trotter: she'll also be meeting with U2 frontman Bono, whose work with the ONE Campaign has earned frequent plaudits from GOP presidential nominee John McCain on the campaign trail."


The amped up clutch of meetings is a not- so-subtle attempt by the McCain campaign to change the subject from the economy (which, for the party in executive power, is a sure loser when the economy is bad) back to Palin.

The hope here, of course, is that media will be irresistibly drawn to the lure of an absurd number of meetings on one day--including that most irresistible of media lures, Bono. Even if there is conflict about the meetings, they wager--the subject may be changed back to whether Palin is/is not qualified, rather than what is now the most important, relevant, and most salient topic: the economy.

Ignore that shiny bauble. As they say, everything has changed.

Don't fall for it.

Stay with the economy.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/media-alert-palin-meeting-diversion.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 1:37 PM

JakeD:

If you are actually a "Christian" then why do you post these taken out of context remarks just to stir up fear and hatred? Ask yourself if Jesus would approve of such behavior. If you answer yes then I think you had better go back and re-read his teachings.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 22, 2008 1:33 PM

Poor JakeD...the sounds of a desperate party and campaign, i.e. "let's bring up Rev. Wrignt".

This would be a terrible mistake by the Republican party. People are really concerned about the US economy and how the federal government is going to fix it. If Obama can successfully weave in the failure of the US economy with the failure and cost of the US foreign policy during the debates, he will win in a landslide over McCain.

McCain is still the mode of trying to win over conservatives instead of Independents, and this is where the election will be won.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 22, 2008 1:33 PM

"pastor"123:

Here's an infamous quote by someone in Barack HUSSEIN Obama's circle:

"God DAMN America!!"

Guess who said that?

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 1:25 PM

Polarization of wealth is the cause of this problem. Republicans bust unions, and export jobs. Flag waving and POW flaunting aside, they love money more than they care about America.

Posted by: Charles | September 22, 2008 1:25 PM

Here is a not so famous quote from someone in Sarah Palins Circle.
Im a f@*kin redneck, F**K with me Ill kick your A#@! Who said it?
http://www.hotpres.com


Watch Preview of the VP debates
http://www.veeppeek.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 22, 2008 1:24 PM

Mother-of-all-Bailouts (MoaB): Your Taxes Are Going Up...

Americans have to start footing their own bills. We cannot live on debt forever. Sooner or later, this economic catastrophe will unfold on a scale that could destroy this country (it may still). We’ve got to get a sense of proportion and responsibility back.

Debt, after all, is a four letter word.

So, despite whatever Obama and McCain say, taxes are going up. Obama’s plan is much more realistic than McCain’s - the Bush tax cuts are gone - but either way, there are going to be big compromises ahead. And we are in for a very rough road (today’s stock market overreaction notwithstanding).

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/09/19/moab-the-feds-get-proactive/

Posted by: ES | September 22, 2008 1:17 PM

gee Mr. Balz,

I'm glad you are finally reporting what I have been saying on these blogs since last week. Thanks.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 22, 2008 1:14 PM

McCain should announce that he will retain Paulson at Treasury.

P.S. to ALL right-thinking Residents of Georgia, Kentucky, and Virginia:

Make sure you start voting for McCain-Palin TODAY!! In all, 34 states allow people to vote before election day. 28 states allow "no-excuse" absentee voting, so just get it done ASAP.

Posted by: JakeD | September 22, 2008 1:11 PM

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