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Questions Linger Over McCain's Role in Stalled Bailout Talks


President Bush meets with congressional leaders, including the presidential nominees, in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Sept. 25, 2008, in Washington to discuss the financial crisis. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press)

By Dan Balz
It may not be too late for John McCain to salvage his rescue mission for the stalled negotiations over how to stabilize the financial and credit markets. Events are moving that rapidly and unpredictably. But McCain and running mate Sarah Palin can ill afford another day like they had Thursday.

On the basis of little new public information, McCain decided enough progress had been made overnight Thursday to allow him to leave Washington Friday afternoon and participate in the first presidential debate with Barack Obama in Mississippi. But that decision came after a day of turmoil and partisan wrangling.

If McCain believed he could be a constructive force by busting his way into the center of the delicate negotiations between congressional Democrats and Republicans and the White House, he was not able to show it Thursday. The objective evidence is that things got worse, not better, in Washington after McCain arrived. There was a tentative deal, announced by congressional leaders, when McCain landed in Washington. Hours later, there were recriminations and chaos.

Democrats blamed the Republican nominee for injecting presidential politics into the talks. Reality is likely a good bit more complicated, and that's why it's impossible to draw any final conclusions about McCain's role. By the end of Friday, there may be a fresh agreement -- in principle at least -- on a modified plan, and McCain, standing on the stage with Obama in Oxford, Miss., may be able to claim some credit for a brokering a "breakthrough."

But there are real questions about whether McCain handled all this wisely. When McCain announced his decision to suspend his campaigning to return to Washington, he couched it in the context of a need for bipartisanship in a time of national crisis. But bipartisanship appeared to be alive and well, at least in the Senate.

In reality, what McCain and other negotiators were facing was an intraparty revolt of the kind that has plagued President Bush's second term. House Republicans were in a brewing rebellion over the Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's bailout plan.

McCain is quite familiar with such rebellions. The same thing happened over Bush's immigration plan, of which McCain was a champion. House Republicans scuttled that deal. Conservative opposition to the Bush-McCain immigration deal also nearly scuttled McCain's presidential candidacy.

What actually happened Thursday still is not clear. One source who was briefed on the lunch meeting of Senate Republicans said that an overwhelming majority of them were ready to support the tentative deal that had been announced that morning until McCain intervened to say he was opposed.

McCain advisers dispute that account. One said McCain neither endorsed nor explicitly opposed the tentative plan. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Friday morning that he raised objections to the tentative agreement during the lunch, particularly one element of it having to do with assistance for homeowners. He also said the plan needed buy-in from House Republicans.

"I said the House needs to be consulted here," Graham told me. "We can't ignore the House. We're trying to find a way to get everybody on board."

What was McCain's input at the lunch? According to Graham, "John was getting ready to leave, literally going out the door with me. He said, thank you for all you have done for me. I don't know the terms of the deal. We need a deal. I am appreciative of the need for a deal."

According to Graham, McCain also said he was troubled by the same concerns Graham had voiced. He went on to say, according to Graham, "My desire is to get a deal that protects the taxpayer, and I'm not going to sign on to something that doesn't protect the taxpayer."

The irony is that McCain is now working, perhaps as he never has before, to assuage House Republicans, with whom he has battled not only over immigration but also campaign finance reform and other issues. His hope is to get at least enough of them on board to produce a deal that has wider support than the agreement of Thursday.

One mystery in all of this is why it wasn't clear until after senators had announced a deal that House Republicans had another plan in mind. How could Minority Leader John Boehner have issued a joint statement with Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday night declaring bipartisan progress if his troops were drafting an alternative that would result in turmoil when it surfaced?

No matter how this turns out, one question will be whether McCain needed to go through the theatrics of dramatically suspending his campaign and putting the first presidential debate in jeopardy to make his points that there needed to be more accommodation to the views of House Republicans? Will this still look like political grandstanding, even if there is a deal with broader agreement?

Democrats are working hard to make that view the prevailing interpretation, and at this point they are winning the first battle. But McCain has managed some narrow escapes in the past and perhaps he will again. Still, on the basis of what happened Thursday, he has a problem on his hands.

The turmoil in Washington overshadowed Palin on Thursday, and for that Republicans might be grateful. Her interview with CBS News anchor Katie Couric was perhaps her shakiest performance to date and likely to fuel more discussion of whether she was a wise pick, even if she has energized the Republican base.

She struggled to explain a previous comment about why Alaska's proximity to Russia helps enhance her foreign policy credentials. She muffed a question about talking directly with Iran by misstating the position of former secretary of state Henry Kissinger, who favors such talks. She accused Obama of being naïve for supporting a position that is the same as Kissinger's. Should she not have asked Kissinger in their meeting why he favored talking to the Iranians when she and McCain do not?

Shortly before noon, McCain's office announced that he was satisfied that there is progress on the negotiations and that he will participate in the debate in Mississippi, then return to Washington to resume talks on the rescue package. He now awaits the judgment of voters on his performance of the past two days.

Posted at 11:52 AM ET on Sep 26, 2008  | Category:  Dan Balz's Take
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Like Bush, McCain promises to bring us together, or at least bring together those among us who can help heal the wounds inflicted upon our body politic.

Yet already McCain has demonstrated his capacity for divisiveness. He has even surfaced and exacerbated divisions within his own party upon a high-stakes issue that will soon impact all of us.

Reconsider "maverick." Does the singularity of the role of renegade, and the personality of one who acts as a renegade, inherently make more difficult the followership of others? McCain comes on like a Banana Belt man on horseback, not a unifier marshalling reformers across the political spectrum.

We don't need four more years. It's high time for a change, a change of leadership.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | September 29, 2008 8:33 PM

HIllary has been warning about this situation and proposing solutions since at least last fall (or longer -- see her WSJ "Let's keep people in their homes")

So Pelosi and Reid ignore the situation -- till just before adjournment when they announce a crisis so urgent that we have to pass something right now, no time to even think about it. Hurry right now and sign this bill -- which turns out to be full of pork especially for Obama's vote fraud group ACORN.

Since it's so urgent, McCain comes back to his day job. No, they don't like that. Suddenly the debate is so important that Reid promises no vote that would interfere with the debate. (What's wrong with this picture?)

So McCain shows up at the debate. Now they don't like that either. After the debate he goes back to DC. Now they don't like that....

Obama, who has been saying "If they need me they will call me" -- now claims he was secretly on the phone with them every night and is The One who deserves All The Credit....

And they like that.

Posted by: 1950democrat | September 29, 2008 2:39 AM

If JimMF grew up on the south side of Chicago like he states, then I grew up on the dark side of the moon.

He's nothing but a L ing S ck of S it.

Posted by: jime2000 | September 29, 2008 12:26 AM


Leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid had the power as leaders to do something about America’s national financial crisis over their last couple of years in Congress. Bush is responsible for signing bills into law, but Pelosi and Reid have the responsibility to set the country's legislative agenda and provide leadership to pass financial institution laws and banking regulations, but they both ignored the looming loan crisis until the very last minute. They failed our nation big time and should resign.

The senators and House leaders on the senate and house banking committee's should also resign because they failed to take action, when they were fully aware the country would eventually face a liquidity and banking crisis. They failed the nation along with the rest of the senate and house that relies on their banking committee to hold hearings, write banking laws and provide legislative oversight of our banking institutions.

The leadership in the White House - Bush, Senate - Harry Reid, House - Nancy Pelosi, and both Democrats and Republican's on the banking committees have failed to provide leadership and foresight to protect and regulate our nations financial system and institutions. Over the years Greenspan warned them that the increasing national debt was unsustainable that could lead to a national financial crisis if other countries lose confidence in our financial system and stop buying our national debt.

Congress just continues to overspend the nations money, give political favors to financial company's that give them political contributions, and add billions of dollars of earmarks for unneeded pork projects and possible fraud.

Did Congress and Bush really think they could run up the national debt forever and the rest of the world would continue to finance all of the nation's debt with a falling dollar? What about worthless American housing loan securities that they bought that are now becoming worthless? No! Now the world is slowly stopping to buy our debt and our nation may go bankrupt. Our only solution is to print more money to make up the difference, only leading to a lower dollar. This in turn may require the fed to increase interest rates to a premium to eventually attract more foreigners to buy more of our risky national debt due to a declining dollar at the expense of our own economy.

Bush, Pelosi and Reid had the legislative and executive power to prevent this nation’s financial crisis but they simply ignored it until the nations financial institutions practically crashed.

Now all American's will suffer, but they will now just continue to blame each other or the other political party, when they were all to blame.

Bush, Reid and Pelosi should all leave office because they over time allowed the nations financial crisis to evolve and continue to get worse until it practically crashed, all on their watch as national leaders. There is a reason that both Bush and Congress have low national approval ratings, it is because they as leaders they have failed to make American better over the years. If either Obama or McCain is elected both leaders in congress should step down so congress can start fresh with new House and Senate leadership so congress once again can gain the confidence and approval of the American public.

The "time of change is now" and we need national leaders to put the "country first" over party politics’ and corporate political donations influences that have led the country to the biggest country's financial crisis since the great depression.

Right now Obama and McCain should both be very involved with what congress is doing with the bailout because it is going to greatly impact their potential presidency in a few months and one of them will need to fix this country’s financial huge mess as president.

Posted by: edabelia | September 28, 2008 12:35 PM

What Democrats and Independents still out there on the fence need to understand is, even if Hillary was your choice, like she was mine, or you are older or white and just can''t feel cozy about Obama this race, this election, this country is not about Obama. It is about all of us and when you compare values and really look at who you are about to vote for or not vote for, Obama is the clear choice if you really want to see our country prosper and grow once again. Some of you may be lucky enough to have jobs, retirement or investments to fall back on, but millions of your fellow Americans don''t after what Bush and the Republicans have done to the USA. Do the right thing, not because you love Obama, but because you love America. Obama gives us a much better chance at survival in these impossible times for so many Americans. Don''t forget Biden either, there is no way no how Biden will allow the corruption, greed and ignorance we have seen in DC continue and he is a seasoned expert on foreign affairs. The Democratic ticket is a good one this election, don''t be on the wrong side of history and miss the chance to say you voted for the right team.

Obama / Biden

Posted by: Hillary08 | September 28, 2008 2:15 AM

What Democrats and Independents still out there on the fence need to understand is, even if Hillary was your choice, like she was mine, or you are older or white and just can''t feel cozy about Obama this race, this election, this country is not about Obama. It is about all of us and when you compare values and really look at who you are about to vote for or not vote for, Obama is the clear choice if you really want to see our country prosper and grow once again. Some of you may be lucky enough to have jobs, retirement or investments to fall back on, but millions of your fellow Americans don''t after what Bush and the Republicans have done to the USA. Do the right thing, not because you love Obama, but because you love America. Obama gives us a much better chance at survival in these impossible times for so many Americans. Don''t forget Biden either, there is no way no how Biden will allow the corruption, greed and ignorance we have seen in DC continue and he is a seasoned expert on foreign affairs. The Democratic ticket is a good one this election, don''t be on the wrong side of history and miss the chance to say you voted for the right team.

Obama / Biden

Posted by: Hillary08 | September 28, 2008 2:15 AM

What Democrats and Independents still out there on the fence need to understand is, even if Hillary was your choice, like she was mine, or you are older or white and just can''t feel cozy about Obama this race, this election, this country is not about Obama. It is about all of us and when you compare values and really look at who you are about to vote for or not vote for, Obama is the clear choice if you really want to see our country prosper and grow once again. Some of you may be lucky enough to have jobs, retirement or investments to fall back on, but millions of your fellow Americans don''t after what Bush and the Republicans have done to the USA. Do the right thing, not because you love Obama, but because you love America. Obama gives us a much better chance at survival in these impossible times for so many Americans. Don''t forget Biden either, there is no way no how Biden will allow the corruption, greed and ignorance we have seen in DC continue and he is a seasoned expert on foreign affairs. The Democratic ticket is a good one this election, don''t be on the wrong side of history and miss the chance to say you voted for the right team.

Obama / Biden

Posted by: Hillary08 | September 28, 2008 2:14 AM

Where do I start with on 'your friend-mccain? Palin? suspending campaign? No knowledge of economy? selling soul?

Seriously, we need a President who is looking toward the future and not the past. We need a leader who can lead, and leading is not making 'crazy decisions or stomping your feet. Its protecting American interest domestically and internationally. This country needs a leader who is not just another tool of special interest. Its funny how he mentioned Obama's earmarks for the LARGE state of ILL and failed to mention his palin's state has the most per capia!!! I'm not going to say his memory is bad, he's just doesn't get it. He can tell out right lies and expect people to not call him on it. Even rove said, mccain needs to ease up on his lies. rove aint that a blip! His goal of being president has blinded him. He has become what he has MOCKED!!! Just not presidential, 'your friend' called mccain. Again, his choice of VP should tell you all you need to know.

Posted by: AMT64 | September 27, 2008 10:11 PM

The paid GOP hate blogger liars appear to be out in force tonigt.

First lie is about Franklin Raines.

He has never been "an economic advisor for Senator Obama.

Second lie is that Senator Obama received money from either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

He received individual donations from employees of those companies.

The McCain lobbyists were paid out of Freddie Mac's funds by the executives running the company- Very different.

The person who has been on the payroll of Fannie Mae is Rick Davis- the McCain capmaign manager.

"First, McCain chastises Obama for committing a sin that he himself has committed. Then Obama points this out, distracting voters from his own foibles and refocusing the spotlight on McCain. For Obama, the impact of the attack is immediately negated. But for McCain it's doubled: he ends up looking both a) guilty of whatever he accused Obama of and b) totally hypocritical."

My major example was McCain's attacks on Obama for associating with former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson. The problem? McCain's own campaign is swarming with 26 advisers or fundraisers who have lobbied or are currently lobbying for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac--including campaign manager Rick Davis. When the New York Times reported Monday that Freddie Mac had previously paid an advocacy group run by Davis $30,000 a month until the end of 2005, the McCain campaign vehemently denied that Davis still had ties to the mortgage giant. In fact, Davis told reporters during a conference call that "it's been over three years since there's been any activity in this area and since I had any contact with those folks."

Unfortunately, that's not quite accurate. As NEWSWEEK's tireless investigative ace Mike Isikoff reports this morning, Freddie Mac also paid Davis's consulting and lobbying firm Davis Manafort a consulting fee of $15,000 a month starting in 2005--before Davis took a leave of absence to work on the McCain campaign--and ending only last month, when the U.S. government acquired the firm. (The New York Times has also posted a story on the payments.) Davis is still a partner and equity-holder in Davis Manafort, so he continues to benefit from its income. So far, Team McCain has attacked the messengers--as usual--but they haven't disputed the allegations, except to say Davis isn't profiting personally from Freddie Mac and therefore doesn't have, according to the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder, a "direct financial conflict of interest in helping McCain develop policy." But that ignores the larger issue: whether Freddie put Davis's firm on retainer--at Davis's request--because of Davis's relationship with McCain. "The story's not about profit," writes Ambinder. "It's about influence buying."


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Is this doomsday for McCain? Hardly. But it is hypocritical. As I wrote Monday, "the only thing dumber than throwing a stone from your glass abode [is] throwing a boomerang." And this one just circled back around.

Take it away, Isikoff:


Since 2006, the federally sponsored mortgage giant Freddie Mac has paid at least $345,000 to the lobbying and consulting firm of John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis, according to two sources familiar with the arrangement...

McCain and his aides have vehemently objected to suggestions that Davis has ties to Freddie Mac—an especially sensitive issue given that the Republican presidential candidate has blamed "the lobbyists, politicians and bureaucrats" for the mortgage crisis that recently prompted the Bush administration to take over both Freddie Mac and its companion, Fannie Mae, and put them under federal conservatorship.

But neither the Times story—nor the McCain campaign—revealed that Davis's lobbying firm, Davis Manafort, based in Washington, D.C., continued to receive $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac until last month—long after the Homeownership Alliance had been terminated. The two sources, who requested anonymity discussing sensitive information, told NEWSWEEK that Davis himself approached Freddie Mac in 2006 and asked for a new consulting arrangement that would allow his firm to continue to be paid. The arrangement was approved by Hollis McLoughlin, Freddie Mac's senior vice president for external relations, because "he [Davis] was John McCain's campaign manager and it was felt you couldn't say no," said one of the sources...

When asked about his own campaign manager's associations with the mortgage giants, McCain, in an interview with CNBC on Sunday night, said that Davis "has had nothing to do" with the Homeownership Alliance since it disbanded and "I'll be glad to have his record examined by anybody who wants to look at it."...


Davis, in a conference call arranged by the McCain campaign on Monday, said "it's been over three years since there's been any activity in this area and since I had any contact with those folks." Davis also said he "had a severed leave of absence" from his lobbying and consulting firm, and "I've taken no compensation from my firm for 18 months." (A campaign spokesman said that Davis receives no partnership distribution under his arrangement)...

Freddie Mac has had no contact with Davis Manafort other than receiving monthly invoices from the firm and paying them. But the money could be perceived as helping Freddie Mac ensure a good relationship with one of McCain's top aides in the event that he became president. The payments, along with other lobbying and consulting contracts, are expected to be terminated by the new federal overseers, the sources said."

Posted by: Luke2 | September 26, 2008 8:51 PM

Obama has shown his complete lack of knowledge on economics, his habit of keeping bad company, and his complete lack of ethics when he selected Clinton budget director Democrat Franklin Raines as an economic adviser. Raines ran Fannie Mae and collected $90 million which we, the taxpayers, are now paying back. Also hitting the taxpayers is Big Democrat Jim Johnson, recently on Obama's VP search committee, had hauled in $21 million just in his last of seven years as Fannie Mae CEO. And guess who also got the bucks. Messiah Obama got big Fannie and Freddie political bucks to the tune of $126,000. He was No. 2 on the list over a twenty year period even though he collected for only three years.

OBAMA A REFORMER? THERE IS A NEW FEDERAL INVESTIGATION OF THESE CROOKS!!!

COVER-UP ALERT - The Obama campaign is trying to cover-up the relationship with Raines since the Fannie-Freddie fall-out and McCain made it a political ad. They cannot whitewash the whole internet. See - http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/4600-obama-denies-raines-ties.html

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 8:25 PM

Do you believe it? These disgusting Democrats won't give it up!!!!!

These crooked politicians are still trying to buy votes with loading pork-barrel money in the bail-out bill for ACORN, the organization known for voter fraud for Democrats.

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 8:18 PM

Enough about a staffer of McCain's.
WHAT MONEY DID BARACK OBAMA GET FROM FANNIE/FREDDIE?
WHAT DID HE DO OR DIDN'T DO FOR THAT MONEY?

Here are the facts:
Barack Obama got an average of $40,000/year ($126K in 3 years) from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
John McCain got an average of $1,000/year ($21K in 20 years) from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.

Barack Obama, and the rest of Senate Democrats voted against Fannie/Freddie reform legislation in 2005 - 2006 that McCain co-sponsored which could have averted this mess.

MCCAIN WAS WAY AHEAD OF BARACK OBAMA ON THIS FINANCIAL CATASTROPHE AND SHOWS BARACK OBAMA IS EITHER A LIGHTWEIGHT ON THE ECONOMY OR HE WAS BOUGHT WITH FANNIE/FREDDIE MONEY.

John McCain's Senate speech on May 25,2006:
"Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac-known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs-and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation"

WILL THE OBAMA NEWS MEDIA INFORM THE PUBLIC OF THIS SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION?

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 8:11 PM

Amazing - To further draw attn. from the debacle that was McManic this week, we are pointed to YouTube videos (must be true) that connect someone who made a couple of phone calls to on-going "advising" of Obama while no mention is made that the company belonging to the man actually running McCain's campaign received payments from Fred/Fan til last month. What is mentioned prominently and with selective highlights is that McCain "proposed" legislation which, in actuality, he only put his name to as a sponsor 16 months later - only when the first major story hit on Fred/Fan. And what did he do to move the legislation forward? He made a short speech that day and then...NOTHING except have his name show up in govtrack for the YouTube video to be shown later by his fawning acolytes. There's more - but that is just the beginning of what ends the credibility of this masterwork.

All in all, I give it 1 star for its ability to suck the uninformed into the slick cut-aways, background music and "look (what I tell you) up on google" that all make for yet another misleading attempt to cover up how far McCain and the Republicans have sunk.

A true conservative would stop making inane YouTube videos, fire these idiots, have them hopefully build some credibility as the loyal opposition over the next 4 years, and then attempt a post-Rovian do-over - with better videos.

Posted by: thinkresults | September 26, 2008 8:03 PM

Another slimy Chicago politician – Barack Obama AND another Chicago political pay-off:

Read about Obama’s “Garden to Nowhere”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article#Comments_Container

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 7:46 PM

BobGuthrie wants to know ho is JimMF.

I grew up on the southside of Chicago. I can tell you that Barack Obama is nothing but a silver-tongued, far-left radical, Chi-town politician that will say anything to get elected. (e.g., San Francisco "clinging" comment versus Scranton)

Obama is nothing more than an EMPTY SUIT:

He left the southside of Chicago no better than it was before. Chicago is as dangerous as Baghdad as reported on the national news in a comparison to the number of murders taking place last summer. His far-left radical associations did nothing for the people of Chicago including his thousands in donations to Rev. Wright for the spread of hate on the south side of Chicago.

He chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge with unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers which did nothing to improve education in Chicago but did cost many MILLIONS in taxpayer money. THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HEAR ABOUT THAT EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE!!!!

Obama was an EMPTY SUIT with his voting "present" 130 times in the State Senate on what he thought to be politically risky issues. However, Obama did take a stand on one issue. He did oppose the Born Alive Infant Protection Act which would require the care and protection of LIFE BORN. He did take a stand at allowing infanticide if it is in conjunction with an abortion procedure. How wonderful of him.

Obama is an EMPTY SUIT when he talks about improving the economy when HE IS THE NUMBER ONE LIBERAL IN THE SENATE (as rated by the National Journal). In other words, Obama voted for increased taxes, increased spending, more entitlements, bigger government, he’ll weaken the military and our national security. In case you don’t know, ALL THESE THINGS ARE BAD FOR THE ECONOMY AND FOR THIS COUNTRY.


Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 7:36 PM

Quit putting all the blame on President Bush. It's the Democrats, stupid!!!!! Go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

And if Obama gets in with a Democratic Congress, we might as well change the country's name to The United States Socialist Republic.

Posted by: love234america | September 26, 2008 7:33 PM

"Still waiting for idiots amitchell and bogguthrie to actually come up with any stubstance to back up their retarded claims." says KMIchaels in his great erudition (he has seen a video on u-tube that apparently we should believe because he says so.)

"Idiots", "fools", "retarded", dopey", "stupid" and "panties" are just some of the terms KMichaels has used on his opposition in the space of a few lines.

Is a pattern emerging here? And just at the right moment JimMF rides in with the cavalry just in time to support KMichaels, writing in a very similar style with similar terminology. But I guess misrepresentation is characteristic of the far right at the moment.

Now KMichaels you need to relax. perhaps you should go outside to the neighbour's clothesline and pursue your fetish. Don't forget the medication.

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 7:30 PM

"I pity fools like you" says the wise kmichaels to amitchell13 who is a conservative apparently. How patronising of you.

Who is Jimmf who comes in like the cavalry at a very convenient time to support kmichael's wonderful sources which of course are not open to skepticism or critique because kmichaels says so.

Who is JimMF?

He says to K.Michaels: "You're absolutely right. This video breaks it down chronologically and provides detailed information. In fact, it gives a large amount of information in a short video. Pay attention and learn the truth."

Now wait a minute; who addresses people like that on these blogs in order to support them? "To KMichaels... blah blah" Oh come on KMichaels- is Jim your dad? Or is it your good self?

How dumb do you think your opposition is? Nobody lends support like that just at the right moment for your substantial ego. Just coz you see something on u-tube does not make it "the truth" as you put it. "Pay attention (to the short video) and learn the truth" says Jim. Oh come on KMichaels and your ally (or self) JimMF. Yeah right we believe you coz you say so. Somehow though it is quite believable that this is the quality of PALIN'S SUPPORT

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 7:17 PM

kmichaels you obviously did not get past elementary school. Maybe you did pass. Where were you placed, 894th?
As you get towards the middle of high school, the sources do in fact matter. You did not indeed mention Fox News... not that anything you say matters anyway. But I am sure that if you are honest about your beloved sources, you should have put them in your bibliography.

In your articulate posting you said sources do not matter but content does. Well, Mr Einstein, how can you assess the quality and validity of the content unless you can assess the source of it? By the way how is the underwear fetish going?. There was no mention of panties in this forum until you brought it up. Your womanising serial adulterer candidate who deserted his disabled wife might see the relevance of panties...but I don't actually. How is War and Peace going KMichaels? The last 50 pages is very instructive about Russian history- so Sarah has not read it.. but perhaps you will be interested. It is a good source KMichaels and the content has endured with credibility for a long time.
It is safer to be a goose than a moose KMichaels so if if you get close to Sarah you will probably be safe.

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 6:58 PM

To KMichaels,
Re: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

You're absolutely right. This video breaks it down chronologically and provides detailed information. In fact, it gives a large amount of information in a short video. Pay attention and learn the truth.

Saying that, I have to believe that the Obamatons do not care about the truth if the truth is damaging to the liberals and the the king liberal of the Senate, Barack Obama.

Liberals live by politics over principle.

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 6:54 PM

Still waiting for idiots amitchell and bogguthrie to actually come up with any stubstance to back up their retarded claims.

I backed mine up with facts and evidence. Then the Obamite blowhard crowd is too damn lazy to research the details.

That is what sets aside wise voters from the Obamite crowd. Most of us know what we are talking about and most of you Obamites are as clueless as the day you were born.

Again, here is a good starting point, this video that discusses how the subprime mess happened.

... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:53 PM

Simplistic amitchell writes:

"You keep saying McCain and regulate in the same breathe"

Ahem, the majority of bills passed by legislatures are either regulatory or deregulatory. But let me guess, you are some teenage minded punk that bought a bill of goods thinking that all regulation must be good and all deregulation must be bad. I pity fools like you. So stupid to understand the process of government.

Yes amitchell, childlike in your understanding of bill making, regulations and deregulations are neither good nor bad based on name only. What makes them good or bad is based on the details.

McCain has been both for hundreds of regulations and against hundreds of regulations, based on whether he considered them productive or counter-productive.

Buy I see mitch that you keep skirting the direct issue. That being that Democrats (97%) were against the a good regulation that would have managed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and got them out of the risky loan business.

You can parse words like a dummy or get down to key details and set aside assinine semantics.

"Then he keeps flip flopping every news cycle."

No flip flop. Just a consistent way of handling good and bad bills. If the bills are productive then he is for them and if they are counterproductive then he is against them.

Mitch you really are a retard. There is not getting around it.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:49 PM

The Bait before the Debate ... a Karl Rove thing that worked in the past ... NOT THIS TIME FRIENDS ... Sorry KMichaels ... join me at making a CHANGE in Washington

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 6:48 PM

GOP whining about the media is not only tedious but getting embarrassing. The losing side always whinges and whines about the media. nothing could be the fault of the GOP could it? the victimhood is so laughable. KMichaels is like Canute (he has a u-tube site) who is commanding the waves to stop but they will insist on persisting much to the chagrin of the remarkable KMichaels.

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 6:43 PM

Idiot BobGuthrie writes:

"KMichaels you get your info from utube as well as Fox. YOU ARE POSITIVELY erudite."

Um, I said nothing about Fox. And neither did I claim that I get all my info from YouTube.

However, YouTube is a wonderful source for more videos on related subjects then any other company. I guess that is why they are worth billions now.

But the point is not the source, but the actual content.

Anyone is free to deny the points made in this great informative video.

Watch it then we can discuss the details.

And so, we are not governed according to you- I can understand why you would think so. In western democracy the party that wins is governing the country. That is why we have elections. You in your u-tube and Fox TV wisdom however know better of course.

Let us suspend the election since they make no difference. And we could suspend all debates too and any news conferences with Sarah Palin. MAYBE YOU COULD INTERVIEW HER. It would be better than Hannity for sure.

Posted by: BobGuthrie

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:42 PM

You keep saying McCain and regulate in the same breathe ... Are you kidding me? This man has been all over the map in the last week ... just when I was feeling a bit comfortable with the idea of McCain as President minus the other 1/2 of the ticket ... then he keeps flip flopping every news cycle. Then i got to thinking that he really has a mental problem to go along with that notorious anger. Then, I see him being restrained in the White House and the First Dude Mcbeth and Lady McBeth in charge. Out darn spot!! Out!!

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 6:39 PM

Thank you, KMichaels. As I recall, DEMOCRATS in both Houses voted for Gramm-Leach, and President Clinton (who pointed out yesterday that it allowed for Bear Sterns to be purchased seamlessly) signed it into law.

http://blog.heritage.org/2008/09/22/the-glass-steagall-myth/

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 6:38 PM

amitchell, crying in the darkness asks:

"How can you possibly SPIN THIS on the Democrats with a slim majority in the Senate ..."

I gave you the facts dude and you refuse to investigate. Done blame me because you are too lazy to investigate the facts.

Yes, Dems are to blame and here is why.

Review the video and point out where what they say is wrong. I bet you cant. I know you can make false claims, but I bet you cant point out where the video is wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:37 PM

So KMichaels you get your info from utube as well as Fox. YOU ARE POSITIVELY erudite.

And so, we are not governed according to you- I can understand why you would think so. In western democracy the party that wins is governing the country. That is why we have elections. You in your u-tube and Fox TV wisdom however know better of course.

Let us suspend the election since they make no difference. And we could suspend all debates too and any news conferences with Sarah Palin. MAYBE YOU COULD INTERVIEW HER. It would be better than Hannity for sure.

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 6:36 PM

amitchell misses another one:

"KMichaels
I was wrong ... easy borrowing was for the poor ... easy fraud was for the rich ... and that is why we are in this mess GREED"

Well, mitch, the majority of our problems are right now are not due to fraud. It has to do with Democrats refusing to regulate the two federally subsidized for profit banks. Fannie and Freddie. Mitch you have had ample time to read the details on these two companies but you refuse because the truth makes your support for Obama look stupid. Fine, I understand the human nature of weak willed people like you. You are too caught up in emotion and too misinformed on the details.

Very calmly put, Fannie and Freddy facilitated the marketing of subprime loans.

Fannie and Freddie were in need of some goverment overhaul and Dems refused to act.

Bush and McCain tried to get the dems to act but to no avail. Bill S.190 would have gone a long ways to stop the subprime lending business, at least the majority of it but Dems were too focused on their corrupt connections and pandering to their base.

Democrats let this crap happen now they want to toss out red herrings and disceptions to cover their tracks.

Again, details are found here in this great video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: amitchell13

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:32 PM

Lfetist Liberal ... KMichaels: I am insulted ... I am a proud and independent conservative ... but I am hurting like most of America still waiting for the compassion GW promised. BUT THE BAILOUT will cost every man woman and child in America $7000. which is more than half the median money a poor person makes in a year in America.

Throw the bums out!!

We need a clean page ... a new start ... CHANGE THAT MATTERS ... I don't see any of John McCain's friends hurting!!

How can you possibly SPIN THIS on the Democrats with a slim majority in the Senate ... with Cheney and Thanks Joe Leiberman!!

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 6:31 PM

The perspicacious KMichaels says "you have an addition (sic) connection you tend to be more keenly aware of that particular country. I guess your reading comprehension is not up to par."

I guarantee Mr Michaels that I read more last week than you have read in the last 10 years. I absolutely guarantee it.

Are you saying because Palin can see Russia from Alaska that this converts to knowledge of Russia? Duh.

If she has heard of the 1917 revolution, Kerensky, Lenin or Trotsky it would be a miracle. If she has heard of Tolstoy, Gogol or Dostoyevsky it would only be to ban their books from the library.

She knows hardly anything about the USA from which she wants to secede. She knows less about Russia though her expertise with the inner anatomy of the moose is comprehensive... and this makes her a normal all American mom, right?

Sarah is palin into insignificance- like your cognitive development. How is your underwear fetish going?

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 6:29 PM

Yet another shallow leftist writes:

"K Michaels
tHE gOP have been in power for 8 years."

You can always tell when a stupid statement is about to happen when you see some dopey child point out what party was elected to what office.

Unless a given party controls 100% of the nation then you can normally blame them. The key to blame is not based on generalities like dopey Obamites like to point out but in specifics of a given problem.

For example, if you are discussing the number of sunspots on the sun, it really does not matter who the hell is in power at the time.

Now, if you are discussing the subprime mess we are in now, then you review again, not who is in power but who specifically was for or against certain bills.

And, when discussing certain bills, you need to research and find out what those bills actually mean.

Now dems are quick to bring up the Gramm-Leach bill. They are quick to blame things on this bill (mostly because they think they can score political points with it) but they are slow (as in they never do) to show what about that given bill caused this current problem.

In reality, the Gramm-Leach bill was restricted to allowing banks to get into other financial related services. This allowed US banks to compete against foreign banks and did much to help our economy. Foreign banks have been allowed to diversify and that put US banks to a major disadvantage.

Now dems are saying that the Gramm act is the culprit. Again, how you ask them? Well, they say, "um ah, some people say ..." and they cant quite come up with the hows of it. Simply because it is a false claim. That act was good for the economy. Period.

Now, what was the real culprit? Ask any economist worth their salt and they will say subprime loans.

So, what about subprime loans? First off, most of the idiot Obamites think that subprime loans came into existence with the Gramm act of 1999. Ahem, subprime loans have been in existence in our country since the beginning of our country. It has always been an option for banks to make risky loans.

Now, when do banks make risky loans? Well, if they think there is a profit to be made or if the government forces them to do it.

With the Clinton act of 1995 it forced more and more banks into giving subprime loans in order to cater to minorities and the poor. This made dem leaders get lots of cheap votes from their base. Its always about votes to the dems.

What else contributed to subprime loans? The biggest and most obvious answer is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These two for profit companies are subsidized and coddled by the federal government. It was started by Democrat Roosevelt then pampered by democrats since then. FF has been a routine vehicle that dems have used to show that they care for the poor (at least their votes).

So what happened? Subprime loans when from 20 million worth in 1993 up to 600 million plus now. Who was the main fueler of this fire? Well, Fannie and Freddie. Dems were saying how stable these two companies were and not to worry about regulating them more.

That is what Bush and McCain wanted to do. To regulate Fannie and Freddie and get them out of risky loans. But dems were all in favor of risky loans because that means more base votes for their party.

So when McCain and Bush tried to stop subprime loans from the biggest participant (Fannie and Freddie) dem leaders had a cow. They when apesh-t over it. No way would dems let their favorite fed banks be controlled more by the government.

Anyway, here we are today stuck in a huge subprime mess because the democrats wanted to buy some cheap votes from their base. Country be damned, give us more votes.

This video explains it quite well. Watch it all if you want to be educated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:24 PM

Throw the bums out ... who said that?

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 6:19 PM

KMichaels

I was wrong ... easy borrowing was for the poor ... easy fraud was for the rich ... and that is why we are in this mess GREED

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 6:17 PM

hey KMichaels you are dumber than I thought. Nobody is saying Mexico does not border the USA... on the contrary. The point was that we do share a border from which there is a constant interchange of visitors and immigrants... thus awareness of Mexico is relevant foreign policy knowledge. However since there is no such interaction between Alaska and Russia, that proximity offers no such relevant interchange. Got it? Or would you like a special education tutor for slow learners.
What are you mentioning panties for? Why focus on underwear?
I am glad my daughter does not live next to you.

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 6:16 PM

kmichaels - your reach is extending past our ability to suspend disbelief. The only accomplishment you can come up with after McCain's erratic behavior these last two weeks and yesterday's swooping in on wings of eagles was that he "pointed out that the House Republicans were not on board"?? Oh heavens be praised! Thank you McManic!

Of course the House Repubs were "not on board". Everybody was "not on board". The whole point of the sessions to which McCain added nothing was to bring consensus around a bailout no one wants. The House Repubs already had their channels open to express issues but they did not also get a chance to bloviate as if they were the only ones "not on board" until ME dia first McManic (thank you joep1) made it all about him.

Country first indeed. More like "it's My Country First"

Posted by: thinkresults | September 26, 2008 6:12 PM

amitchell writes, (without actually reading the truth that is out there):

"The subprime loans and mortgages and easy borrowing was like paying for votes in the 2004 elections."

Again, here is the connection to subprime loans that you refuse to admit to. It is all factual and it directly connects the Democrats to this problem we are having today. Be a man and admit to your errors. Or otherwise just vote for that damned fool Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:08 PM

K Michaels
tHE gOP have been in power for 8 years. They are the government although you would be forgiven for thinking that we do not have a government. Hey buddy where do ou get your info? Fox?
The subprime loans were not made to help minorities, but to make money out of them. Your proposition is ludicrous. For years the GOP have attacked the left for wanting more regulation.
You call us "clueless". You imbeciles call sensible regulations "socialism"- rules and regulations that all comparable western democracies have as a matter of course. Have you been out of the US? And how was your trip to Tijuana? Are you an expert now in Mexican history?

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 6:07 PM

"KMicheals- it just shows how dumb some conservatives are for you to compare the Alaska-Russia border with the Mexico-USA-border."

You mean that Mexico does not share a border with the USA. My mistake. My point, nimrod, was that proximity to a country always adds additional phychological connection to that country. And once you have an addition connection you tend to be more keenly aware of that particular country. I guess your reading comprehension is not up to par.

Now, comparing sharing the borders I guess I miss your point. Are you saying Russia is different because they are not south of us? I understand that difference. Perhaps Russia is different because they actually have real weapons that they could hit us with and Mexico has well, rocks.

Either way, you are some dope to get your panties in a bind over it.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 6:04 PM

ha ha democracy party. macaine pull good trick on you he no debate. palling no debate. they got voting machine rigged so dont bother voting. us gonna ride pallings holy rollercoaster for 8 years till all democracy party are robbed blind. then we make you all slaves. and palling bom russia, iran, irak, any body who no do what we tell them. oh france too. how dare say pig with lipstick . she hottie. macaime palling o8!

Posted by: DaveMiner | September 26, 2008 6:04 PM

KMichaels ... I gues you would not have liked my statement before:

As we enter the polling booth ... it is simple ... we forget the SPIN and remember the last 8 years ... I think as an Indepenedent the Democrats showed great respect to the office of the President by approving his initiatives at guiding them into a War in Iraq and in no small irony the Wall Street Bail Out. This Administration sunk Hillary Clinton's chances at being President by the deception and poor judgment getting into the war. And, we see the same thing being attempted by this recent crisis of mis-management ... Suck the Democrat into a hole that the Bush Administration has created. The subprime loans and mortgages and easy borrowing was like paying for votes in the 2004 elections. Are we better off that we were 8 years ago? The answer is NO NO NO ... let the Republicans SPIN SPIN SPIN. The American people are not fools.


No withchcraft here ....

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 6:04 PM

amitchell writes:

"How desparate can they be when they want to first share the stage with Hillary at the UN"

Palin was invited before Hillary was invited. Are you sure you got your facts straight about who was sharing with whom?

"and John lying to David Letterman to do the photo-op with Bill Clinton the next day at his Clinton Initiative??!!"

McCain stated clearly that he would still be visiting Clinton during his press statement about coming back to washington. This is hardly a lie. What it is is idiots like amitchell not having a clue about what really happened.

And I bet you dont know what caused the subprime loan problems either, do you? Yeah, I thought so.

Here, watch this and get educated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 5:58 PM

KMicheals- it just shows how dumb some conservatives are for you to compare the Alaska-Russia border with the Mexico-USA-border. The only immigrants from russia might be some arctic wildlife. And how many states border Mexico?
57 states was merely a slip of the tongue and it shows how desperate you are to somewhere find a point of argument.

Posted by: BobGuthrie | September 26, 2008 5:58 PM

When I close my eyes and think of the words FLIP FLOP ... I don't see Kerry in sandals ... I think of how unhinged John McCain became in this last week. It is sad!! I voted Republican when GW said he was going to be a "compassionate conservative" ... I wanted change since 2004 and alot of the A,erican people have been waiting for this also. It really should be a landslide!!

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 5:58 PM

Let me get this straight.

Joe Biden thinks that FDR got on TV and calmed the public during the stock market crash of 1929, and, Palin is the one that is the moron.

The teratment of Palin goes to show me that many Obamatons are condescending, pretentious and as ignorant as Biden.

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 5:56 PM

Out of curiousity, the dems could vote on their "announced deal" without Republicans and "save the day". So why aren't they? Well, they know the bill sucks and they know that 84% of the public isd against their plan! They know that once it was discovered that 20% of some formula of the money will go to ACORN, Obama's group that is in litigation for violating election laws all over America! Plus there was never any deal. From the American Spectator:

When Sen. Barack Obama was given the floor to speak during White House negotiations, according to White House aides, he did so raising concerns about a House Republican alternative to the Paulson/Bernanke $700 billion bailout. But those concerns weren't necessarily his, as he was not aware of the GOP plan before reviewing notes provided him by Paulson loyalists in Treasury prior to entering the meeting.

According to an Obama campaign source, the notes were passed to Obama via senior aides traveling with him, who had been emailed the document via a current Goldman Sachs employee and Wall Street fundraiser for the Obama campaign. "It was made clear that the memo was from ‘friends' and was reliable," says the campaign source.


The memo allowed Obama and his fellow Democrats to box in Republican attendees and essentially took what President Bush had billed as a negotiating meeting off the rails.


"Paulson and his team have not acted in good faith for this President or the administration for which they serve," says a House Republican leader who was not present at the White House meeting, but who instead is part of the team hammering out the House GOP alternative. "We keep hearing about how Secretary Paulson is working with Democrats on this or that, yet he never seems to consider working with the party that essentially hired him. Perhaps he's auditioning for a Democratic administration job. Our proposal didn't just spring forth fully formed; we've been working on this for several days, and Treasury staff has known about it."

Posted by: vgailitis | September 26, 2008 5:54 PM

Some Indepenedent Republican friends of mine are even saying they should dump PALIN - she served her purpose to put some life into John McCain's campaign ... Pailin and the First Dude ... a heart beat away ... when there are so many more intelligent legislators in the Republican Party.

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 5:54 PM

Another clueless lying Obamite writes:

"KMichaels,
The entire reason we're in this mess is because of the Republican Party."

Specifically we are in this mess because of subprime loans. We have a problem with subprime loans because democrats for decades have been in favor of having easier ways for poor and minorities to get loans. Essentially dem leaders, pandering to their base, have pushed rules, regulations etc to make it easier for high risk individuals to get loans that banks consider risky (subprime).

Bush in 2003 and McCain in 2005 tried to explain the danger of federally subsidized Fannie and Freddie getting involved in the subprime loan business.

Democrats rejected this wise move by Bush and McCain back then and now they are hoping that the memories are short so that they dont get their rightful blame for the subprime mess.

This video does an excellent job tying the pieces together explaining how exactly it was the democrats that did nothing to regulate Fannie and Freddie. And it was exactly Fannie and Freddie that caused the majority of the subprime mess that we are in today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 5:53 PM

McCain is simply unstable. That is unfortunate, but true.

Posted by: storyofthefifthpeach | September 26, 2008 5:52 PM

Oh, and by the way, NOW the House Republicans want to rely on the analysis of America's economists? How about when they let pork-barrel spending get out of control when these same economists were saying that it was going to destroy our economy? Wait....they didn't listen then.

You Republicans are shameless, pathetic cowards that won't own up to your failures.

Posted by: KAM3 | September 26, 2008 5:51 PM

How desparate can they be when they want to first share the stage with Hillary at the UN and John lying to David Letterman to do the photo-op with Bill Clinton the next day at his Clinton Initiative??!!

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 5:50 PM

McCain the show horse: Way off track

ABOARD THE now-jettisoned "Straight Talk Express," Sen. John McCain loved to talk with reporters about go-to heroes in history, none more than Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. The two were famous multitask guys, writing books while directing battles. Neither ever ducked a debate, let alone an appearance on "Late Night With David Letterman."

"This is not the John McCain I know, by God," Letterman said after being stood up Wednesday on the ground that McCain had to hurry back to Washington, D.C. A few minutes later, he learned that McCain was at that moment in a neighboring CBS studio taping an interview with Katie Couric.

If he's really a history buff, McCain might open William Manchester's Churchill biography to the momentous days of May 1940.

As first lord of the Admiralty, Churchill was directing Britain's futile struggle against German invaders in Norway. Germany was hours away from attacking in the West.

Still, at that hour, Churchill found time and voice to lead the defense of Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's government in the 20th century's most famous parliamentary debate.

Nearly seven decades later, McCain was trying to duck out of a debate in Oxford, Miss.

Teddy Roosevelt would not be saying "Bully, Bully!" to McCain's claim to be "suspending" his campaign so he can return to the Senate and help save America's economy.

McCain has missed 412 of 643 Senate votes in the current Congress. Since April 8, he has missed 109 out of 110 votes.

Sen. Barack Obama has also been absent much of the time. But at least Obama showed up for a critical Senate vote to try to stop a Republican filibuster against a renewable energy package.

Its backers secured 59 of the needed 60 votes: McCain could have broken the filibuster, and cleared the way for the solar and wind energy development he touted in Portland and the Puget Sound area last spring.

McCain has missed all 15 "critical environmental votes" in this session, reports the League of Conservation Voters.

The "suspended" campaign has plowed ahead despite the nominee's announcement.

Gov. Sarah Palin held an airport rally in Philadelphia, where she dodged a query about whether she'll vote to re-elect Alaska's indicted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens and the "bridge to nowhere" champion, Rep. Don Young.

As McCain did interviews and met with a former Hillary Clinton supporter, campaign manager Rick Davis huddled at the 21 Club with top McCain fundraisers, including brass from private equity firms.

Davis earlier blew off a media breakfast hosted by The Christian Science Monitor. Reporters would have asked about the $345,000 that Davis' lobbying firm has received in the past two years from bailed-out mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

Shaking up Washington, D.C., has been McCain's signature theme. Why couldn't Davis answer questions about whether his firm's $30,000 monthly retainer was a case of business as usual in the capital?

In early 1968, at the height of the Vietnam War, Sen. Robert Kennedy broke bread with scribes at a Monitor breakfast. He talked candidly of his poisonous relations with Lyndon Johnson -- stuff far more momentous than Davis' retainer.

What good has McCain done since "suspending" his campaign? A tentative deal between congressional leaders and the White House was announced just as he was getting back to D.C. It promptly fell apart owing to opposition from the Republican right.

Late Thursday, CBS News reported that McCain had "floated an alternative plan," which includes fewer regulations and more corporate tax breaks, "kind of a private solution."

The deregulator McCain, of long Senate tenure, has apparently prevailed over the populist mogul-basher, who promised to fire Securities and Exchange Commission boss Christopher Cox.

In true bipartisanship, McCain's buddy, Sen. Lieberman, has joined with Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., in a letter. It calls for reforming laws governing financial markets, giving teeth to regulatory agencies, and restoring transparency to Wall Street.
"We believe that the current regulatory regime governing oversight of the financial markets is inadequate and disjointed, and has been too tolerant of excessive risk-taking masked by overly complex financial instruments," wrote Lieberman and Cantwell.

Such are the words of workhorses. McCain is a show horse who is running all over the track.

Back to 1940. Chamberlain's support plummeted. The House of Commons turned to the "risky" Churchill, who so ably defended the inept prime minister.

At the climactic moment, a senior Conservative, Leopold Amery, faced Chamberlain and spoke withering words to his friend of 40 years:

"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

Not a bad message, not only for the failed George Bush but also for the rudderless John McCain.

Posted by: JC_VA | September 26, 2008 5:49 PM

SPREAD THIS INFO AROUND BECAUSE THE NEWS MEDIA WILL NOT.

Here are the facts:
Barack Obama got an average of $40,000/year ($126K in 3 years) from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
John McCain got an average of $1,000/year ($21K in 20 years) from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.

Barack Obama, and the rest of Senate Democrats voted against Fannie/Freddie reform legislation in 2005 - 2006 that McCain co-sponsored which could have averted this mess.

MCCAIN WAS WAY AHEAD OF BARACK OBAMA ON THIS FINANCIAL CATASTROPHE AND SHOWS BARACK OBAMA IS EITHER A LIGHTWEIGHT ON THE ECONOMY OR HE WAS BOUGHT WITH FANNIE/FREDDIE MONEY.

John McCain's Senate speech on May 25,2006:
"Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac-known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs-and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation"

WILL THE OBAMA NEWS MEDIA INFORM THE PUBLIC OF THIS SIGNIFICANT

Posted by: JimMF | September 26, 2008 5:48 PM

KMichaels,

Sarah Palin is a moron. We don't hate her. It's just that she's an uneducated nitwit that has no business being VP.

When Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States????????

Only an imbecile would say something so nonsensical and stupid in response the question posed.

Posted by: KAM3 | September 26, 2008 5:47 PM

boompa

we are PRAYING ... and there are no witch doctors or witchcraft in the room. I am TRUE INDEPENDENT

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 5:46 PM

amitchell13, you mean to say that there is no validity in proximity to a given country? I hear US Governors on the mexican border always saying that because of proximity to Mexico they are more keenly aware of the problems. Are you saying mitch that proximity does not establish a different frame of mind? Surely Russia bordering China is a constant reminder of the special relationship that they have with each other.

Sarah was referring to how she is phychologically reminded about the isses of Russia by being keenly aware of their proximity. Military issues as a governor make her keenly aware of their proximity. The USAF has serveral key bases in Alaska because of the proximity of Russia to Alaska.

And what about Obama saying we have 57 states? Seems like that was substantially more stupid than Sarah pointing out the proximity of Russia to Alaska.

You dopey Obamites are really clueless as to how childish you look trying to parse words over how close Russia is to Alaska. You seem rather desperate to come up with a reason for your unnatural hatred for Palin.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 5:44 PM

KMichaels,

The entire reason we're in this mess is because of the Republican Party.

You made the mess and now you don't want to clean it up. Looking out for taxpayers, the Republicans? HA!!!

What a JOKE!

Posted by: KAM3 | September 26, 2008 5:44 PM

Aging increases one's limitations in handling effectively more than one mental task simultaneously. Thus John McCain was well advised to focus upon national security and foreign policy tonight rather than dual-tasking upon economic issues.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | September 26, 2008 5:41 PM

The Man Who Hired Carly Fiorina strikes again! Then we get Headscarf Hannah and the Fisters' Buddy Hackett! Monaco, save a place for me!

Posted by: sawargos | September 26, 2008 5:41 PM

"Nearly seven decades later, McCain was trying to duck out of a debate in Oxford, Miss."

Actually it was a postponement, which is totally acceptable to thinking adults.

And if Obama was so interested in getting the issues out to the public in debates, why did he (Obama) claim months ago that he would debate McCain anytime and anyplace then renig on his promise? So, what is up with that? Obama: People need to hear these debates. Obama: Um, when I said I would debate McCain anytime and anyplace I obviously was just trying to look good for the audience. I was just reading what the teleprompter said. I never really meant it. Good god, you dont actually think we politicians mean what we say. BTW, dont forget CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE, yada yada yada.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 5:37 PM

Sen. John McCain has demonstrated leadership and patriotism. Sen. Barack Obama has demonstrated neither.

WHY is ACORN, the under criminal investigation group for voter fraud, etc. awarded 20% of the bailout bill the Dems support???? That's nearly 150 BILLION DOLLARS! Inquiring minds want to know WHY ACORN????? I am ashamed of my party in 2008.

Sen. Obama is not qualified to be President of the U.S., therefore this Democrat will put my country first and party second and support John McCain for President in 2008.

My Democratic party foolishly nominated the wrong candidate(s).

Hillary should be the next President. Hillary could have won this election in a walk. Hillary's Wall Street Journal piece was excellent yesterday. Missed opportunities for the Dems. Hold them accountable.

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Posted by: TAH1 | September 26, 2008 5:37 PM

Whenever Putin raises up his head to fly over ... it is over Alaska ... and the country Alaska has trade relations with the Russians ... just like the NHL being in Canada and the United States ... Canada on our borders... These are my foreign policy credentials. Us independent Hillary women find this level of intelligence insulting.

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 5:35 PM

The Biggest Fear? The American public so engrossed in such mind-stimulating items as the "American Idol" and "The Great Race" will repeat their Bush/Cheney abomination and elect a doddering old man (strictly on his record as a war hero) and a Veep who is not up to the position but tells a good conservative nut-job speil. PRAY IT WON'T HAPPEN.

Posted by: boompa5806 | September 26, 2008 5:31 PM

McCain the show horse: Way off track

ABOARD THE now-jettisoned "Straight Talk Express," Sen. John McCain loved to talk with reporters about go-to heroes in history, none more than Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. The two were famous multitask guys, writing books while directing battles. Neither ever ducked a debate, let alone an appearance on "Late Night With David Letterman."

"This is not the John McCain I know, by God," Letterman said after being stood up Wednesday on the ground that McCain had to hurry back to Washington, D.C. A few minutes later, he learned that McCain was at that moment in a neighboring CBS studio taping an interview with Katie Couric.

If he's really a history buff, McCain might open William Manchester's Churchill biography to the momentous days of May 1940.

As first lord of the Admiralty, Churchill was directing Britain's futile struggle against German invaders in Norway. Germany was hours away from attacking in the West.

Still, at that hour, Churchill found time and voice to lead the defense of Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's government in the 20th century's most famous parliamentary debate.

Nearly seven decades later, McCain was trying to duck out of a debate in Oxford, Miss.

Teddy Roosevelt would not be saying "Bully, Bully!" to McCain's claim to be "suspending" his campaign so he can return to the Senate and help save America's economy.

McCain has missed 412 of 643 Senate votes in the current Congress. Since April 8, he has missed 109 out of 110 votes.

Sen. Barack Obama has also been absent much of the time. But at least Obama showed up for a critical Senate vote to try to stop a Republican filibuster against a renewable energy package.

Its backers secured 59 of the needed 60 votes: McCain could have broken the filibuster, and cleared the way for the solar and wind energy development he touted in Portland and the Puget Sound area last spring.

McCain has missed all 15 "critical environmental votes" in this session, reports the League of Conservation Voters.

The "suspended" campaign has plowed ahead despite the nominee's announcement.

Gov. Sarah Palin held an airport rally in Philadelphia, where she dodged a query about whether she'll vote to re-elect Alaska's indicted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens and the "bridge to nowhere" champion, Rep. Don Young.

As McCain did interviews and met with a former Hillary Clinton supporter, campaign manager Rick Davis huddled at the 21 Club with top McCain fundraisers, including brass from private equity firms.

Davis earlier blew off a media breakfast hosted by The Christian Science Monitor. Reporters would have asked about the $345,000 that Davis' lobbying firm has received in the past two years from bailed-out mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

Shaking up Washington, D.C., has been McCain's signature theme. Why couldn't Davis answer questions about whether his firm's $30,000 monthly retainer was a case of business as usual in the capital?

In early 1968, at the height of the Vietnam War, Sen. Robert Kennedy broke bread with scribes at a Monitor breakfast. He talked candidly of his poisonous relations with Lyndon Johnson -- stuff far more momentous than Davis' retainer.

What good has McCain done since "suspending" his campaign? A tentative deal between congressional leaders and the White House was announced just as he was getting back to D.C. It promptly fell apart owing to opposition from the Republican right.

Late Thursday, CBS News reported that McCain had "floated an alternative plan," which includes fewer regulations and more corporate tax breaks, "kind of a private solution."

The deregulator McCain, of long Senate tenure, has apparently prevailed over the populist mogul-basher, who promised to fire Securities and Exchange Commission boss Christopher Cox.

In true bipartisanship, McCain's buddy, Sen. Lieberman, has joined with Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., in a letter. It calls for reforming laws governing financial markets, giving teeth to regulatory agencies, and restoring transparency to Wall Street.
"We believe that the current regulatory regime governing oversight of the financial markets is inadequate and disjointed, and has been too tolerant of excessive risk-taking masked by overly complex financial instruments," wrote Lieberman and Cantwell.

Such are the words of workhorses. McCain is a show horse who is running all over the track.

Back to 1940. Chamberlain's support plummeted. The House of Commons turned to the "risky" Churchill, who so ably defended the inept prime minister.

At the climactic moment, a senior Conservative, Leopold Amery, faced Chamberlain and spoke withering words to his friend of 40 years:

"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

Not a bad message, not only for the failed George Bush but also for the rudderless John McCain.

Posted by: JC_VA | September 26, 2008 5:30 PM

McCain did one thing, and it was truthful, accurate, and timely. He pointed out that the House Republicans were not on board with the plan and that their concerns should be reviewed, since otherwise the House Republicans would not sign on to this trillion dollar bailout. Specifically the House Republicans wanted to make sure the taxpayers were not sent to the cleaners over this. This is the big deal that idiot Dan Balz and you other Obama lapdoggers are concerned about? Seriously Dan, you need to get out of your yellow journalism streak and your Obama campaining streak and by a real man, do some real reporting and stop being such a coniving little moron.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 26, 2008 5:30 PM

Not only content with keeping the big oil company CEO's rolling in money (The War), or big arm dealers CEO's rolling in money (The War), McCain and Bush want to empty the pockets of the average Joe (tax payers) so the Wall Street Gordon Gecko's can award themselves $50 Million dollar bonuses. When are we going to wake up? After the nuclear apocolypse instigated by Sarah Palin?

Posted by: jdreczkowski | September 26, 2008 5:26 PM

Bush is way over his head to be the president of USA, the most powerful and enfluential job in the world. He messes it up for 8 years , thus not only US but the whole world suffered. Now we have another guy John McCain who is just as unqualified as Bush, if not more. McCain talks like bush, thinks like Bush, acts like Bush. He thinks if Bush can be the president of the United States for two terms, I centainly can do better. Karl Rover has told McCain that he can get anybody to be elected as long as his plan is executed, and McCain listened. McCain believed Rove,because he pondered if Bush cound get elected, I certainly can do better. So the plans of nominating Palin and ducking of the debate were followed.What McCain does not know is Bush has his God and his father to back him up, McCain has nothing, A few years in Victnam prison as a POW is just not good enough.Besides, Bush also has the young age and clean bill of health behind him. John,for the good of the country retire together with your body Lieberman and go fishing, you will live longer.

Posted by: johnycheng1 | September 26, 2008 5:22 PM

ok so perhaps the "experience" argument has been beat to death with Palin and Obama...but how about a little bit of intelligence? the woman sounded like some of the 9th graders I teach...my 12th graders sound more intelligent than she did in parts of that interview...seriously - did she suggest that because Putin flies over Alaska that gives her foreign policy experience? Oh and by the way how come she hasn't bothered to mention that she also lives next to the largest supplier of energy (including gas and oil) to the United States? {psst...Governor Palin - that would be Canada...a foreign country!}

Posted by: baildog59 | September 26, 2008 5:21 PM

McCain is a short, pale, crippled fool, who isn't Christian enough for me... Plus, he's always hanging with Lieberslime like they've got some Larry Craig type history between them...

but I'll vote for him anyway, because I hate anybody who criticizes the USA and says that something here could be better.

If they had listened to McShort about the Economy in the first place, there wouldn't have been all this Liberal panic on the stock market, and we'd all be rich and have 12 or 13 or so houses and the middle class would be those who earn 5 million a year or less.

BUT NOOOOO,

Look at what that Liberal Premise known as "Reality" has done to our blessed Wall Street.

So, McSame gets my vote. Plus, I'm not very comfortable with people of color, especially those who don't wrap themselves in the Flag or say, "God Bless" every chance they get.

Gotta go now, Kneel Cavuto is on Fox, so I'm gonna drop trou and wank out some mini Patriots... as a warm up for the debate.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | September 26, 2008 5:20 PM

Google the Community Reinvestment Act. You will be shocked to find out who is responsible for our current financial mess. The CRA forced banks to issue "subprime" loans to low income people. And guess who even sued citibank to force them to issue these high risks loans-- Obie! More in my blog!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcpsychic | September 26, 2008 5:20 PM

Bush is way over his head to be the president of USA, the most powerful and enfluential job in the world. He messes it up for 8 years , thus not only US but the whole world suffered. Now we have another guy John McCain who is just as unqualified as Bush, if not more. McCain talks like bush, thinks like Bush, acts like Bush. He thinks if Bush can be the president of the United States for two terms, I centainly can do better. Karl Rover has told McCain that he can get anybody to be elected as long as his plan is executed, and McCain listened. McCain believed Rove,because he pondered if Bush cound get elected, I certainly can do better. So the plans of nominating Palin and ducking of the debate were followed.What McCain does not know is Bush has his God and his father to back him up, McCain has nothing, A few years in Victnam prison as a POW is just not good enough.Besides, Bush also has the young age and clean bill of health behind him. John,for the good of the country retire together with your body Lieberman and go fishing, you will live longer.

Posted by: johnycheng1 | September 26, 2008 5:19 PM

McCain the show horse: Way off track

ABOARD THE now-jettisoned "Straight Talk Express," Sen. John McCain loved to talk with reporters about go-to heroes in history, none more than Theodore Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. The two were famous multitask guys, writing books while directing battles. Neither ever ducked a debate, let alone an appearance on "Late Night With David Letterman."

"This is not the John McCain I know, by God," Letterman said after being stood up Wednesday on the ground that McCain had to hurry back to Washington, D.C. A few minutes later, he learned that McCain was at that moment in a neighboring CBS studio taping an interview with Katie Couric.

If he's really a history buff, McCain might open William Manchester's Churchill biography to the momentous days of May 1940.

As first lord of the Admiralty, Churchill was directing Britain's futile struggle against German invaders in Norway. Germany was hours away from attacking in the West.

Still, at that hour, Churchill found time and voice to lead the defense of Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's government in the 20th century's most famous parliamentary debate.

Nearly seven decades later, McCain was trying to duck out of a debate in Oxford, Miss.

Teddy Roosevelt would not be saying "Bully, Bully!" to McCain's claim to be "suspending" his campaign so he can return to the Senate and help save America's economy.

McCain has missed 412 of 643 Senate votes in the current Congress. Since April 8, he has missed 109 out of 110 votes.

Sen. Barack Obama has also been absent much of the time. But at least Obama showed up for a critical Senate vote to try to stop a Republican filibuster against a renewable energy package.

Its backers secured 59 of the needed 60 votes: McCain could have broken the filibuster, and cleared the way for the solar and wind energy development he touted in Portland and the Puget Sound area last spring.

McCain has missed all 15 "critical environmental votes" in this session, reports the League of Conservation Voters.

The "suspended" campaign has plowed ahead despite the nominee's announcement.

Gov. Sarah Palin held an airport rally in Philadelphia, where she dodged a query about whether she'll vote to re-elect Alaska's indicted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens and the "bridge to nowhere" champion, Rep. Don Young.

As McCain did interviews and met with a former Hillary Clinton supporter, campaign manager Rick Davis huddled at the 21 Club with top McCain fundraisers, including brass from private equity firms.

Davis earlier blew off a media breakfast hosted by The Christian Science Monitor. Reporters would have asked about the $345,000 that Davis' lobbying firm has received in the past two years from bailed-out mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

Shaking up Washington, D.C., has been McCain's signature theme. Why couldn't Davis answer questions about whether his firm's $30,000 monthly retainer was a case of business as usual in the capital?

In early 1968, at the height of the Vietnam War, Sen. Robert Kennedy broke bread with scribes at a Monitor breakfast. He talked candidly of his poisonous relations with Lyndon Johnson -- stuff far more momentous than Davis' retainer.

What good has McCain done since "suspending" his campaign? A tentative deal between congressional leaders and the White House was announced just as he was getting back to D.C. It promptly fell apart owing to opposition from the Republican right.

Late Thursday, CBS News reported that McCain had "floated an alternative plan," which includes fewer regulations and more corporate tax breaks, "kind of a private solution."

The deregulator McCain, of long Senate tenure, has apparently prevailed over the populist mogul-basher, who promised to fire Securities and Exchange Commission boss Christopher Cox.

In true bipartisanship, McCain's buddy, Sen. Lieberman, has joined with Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., in a letter. It calls for reforming laws governing financial markets, giving teeth to regulatory agencies, and restoring transparency to Wall Street.
"We believe that the current regulatory regime governing oversight of the financial markets is inadequate and disjointed, and has been too tolerant of excessive risk-taking masked by overly complex financial instruments," wrote Lieberman and Cantwell.

Such are the words of workhorses. McCain is a show horse who is running all over the track.

Back to 1940. Chamberlain's support plummeted. The House of Commons turned to the "risky" Churchill, who so ably defended the inept prime minister.

At the climactic moment, a senior Conservative, Leopold Amery, faced Chamberlain and spoke withering words to his friend of 40 years:

"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

Not a bad message, not only for the failed George Bush but also for the rudderless John McCain.

Posted by: JC_VA | September 26, 2008 5:15 PM

McCain : The most self-obsessed, demented, depraved STUNT-MAN in American politics today.

Posted by: guru21 | September 26, 2008 5:02 PM

We now have eye-witness proof of the damage done to the bailout negotiations by McCain's self-serving intervention into the process:
House Republican Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri in an interview on MSNBC said Republican presidential candidate John McCain's involvement in the discussion yesterday ``stopped a deal from finalizing.'' McCain, in his flailing attempts to regain momentum, is making a mockery of this election. He wanted to be the "Maverick" who came to DC to be the Leader in bailout negotiations. With Bush's help he planned to look like he brought everyone together. The attempt to inject himself into the process and gain headlines was a waste of valuable time. Now it has failed and he must go to Mississippi, tail between the legs, with nothing to show for his arrogance. McCain's new slogan- "Me First"

Posted by: jeffl240 | September 26, 2008 4:58 PM

it was bizarre, hard to follow. i read the tentative agreement, it sounded alot more reasonable. only 250 billion for first chunk of money, added oversite and cease and desist authority, demanded the government receive some equity for the purchases so that profits on the sale are not pocketed by those who created the mess, and some limits on frivolous compensation for these CEOs who put their company in the toilet.

mccain arrived to throw a monkey wrench in the deal - so now it will take more time, he's happy and he's left.

poor judgement again.

Posted by: mcgreen | September 26, 2008 4:55 PM

DWJ2215, might you share with us all the home run question/answer that senator mccain will hit out of the park?

Posted by: gbeach | September 26, 2008 4:53 PM


Burning down the house, what caused the economic crisis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: joep1 | September 26, 2008 4:53 PM


Obama = ME dia First

McCain = Country First

Posted by: joep1 | September 26, 2008 4:51 PM

"A sicker group has never confronted our nation than those who support Obama. Just read their posts when running against Hillary Clinton if you want a taste of Obama's proposed Brave New World.

And just read between the lines as Obama takes credit for everything worthwhile and accepts no blame for anything. A man whose megalomania has managed to reach epic proportions. A man whose "vision" is non-existent for a United States of America. Only for a Disjointed States of America for the few.

Make no mistake about this one. Either accept Obama's lies or vote for McCain.
It is up to you in only a few weeks. A man whose interests are focused only on Country First, or a man whose only focus is himself whose "great" economic wisdom consists of continual statements that he knows "people's" income is down and their costs are up. What a brilliant mind! What a disaster for our country.

Obama's orchestration of the politics of the moment shows he is nowhere close to being presidential material. With little political experience, all of which has been played out through the use of powerful mentors, Obama is plainly not equipped to deal with national crises. And this is nowhere more evident than in the partisan way he has approached our financial crisis, which he proclaimed is the worst since the Great Depression.
As ABC noted in a somewhat balanced report of the White House meeting:

"However, the Democrats allowed Sen. Obama to run their side of the meeting," the statement added. "That did not work as the meeting quickly devolved into a contentious shouting match that did not seek to craft a bipartisan solution."

http://politicalcenter.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/26/1916665-white-house-meeting-degenerates-into-obama-planned-ambush

Posted by: joep1 | September 26, 2008 4:50 PM

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STUNT-MAN's REVERSE FLIP-STUNT OF THE DAY !
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All for the entertainment of American electorate !

The STUNT-MAN will now appear for the debate.


McCains stretegy : One stunt a day, keeps McCain in the fray.
Ladeies and Gentlemen : Expect a new Stunt today.
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The Republican charlatancy that destroyed our nation.
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1. Depraved war-mongering resulting in a deceitful, propogandist War costing upto 1 Trillion dollars and more.

2. Financial bankruptcy caused by the republican's reckless, deregulation and tax breaks for the wealthy causing massive deficits.
Now Boehner and McCain have a counter proposal including more deregulation and corporate tax breaks.

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Just put my picture on the deal !!!!
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McCain won't disclose if he is for the deal or against the deal that the
Repub President and the Congresional leaders agreed to !

I guess he just wants his picture on any deal !
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What a demented, depraved, opportunist stunt-man.

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Posted by: guru21 | September 26, 2008 4:47 PM

dbitt - Don't be a silly democrat. Obama is going to wish he had skipped the debates. In a few days McCain will get his well deserved accolades for his efforts in getting the bill passed. Mean while Harry and Barry can be counted on to whine and stamp their feet.

All you have to do is watch the debates...and see what happens in the next week. Want to bet McCain is behind Bush when he signs the bill? Now that's what I would call a photo op.

Obama is a typical liberal and as such will act predictably. He will bring his arsenal of prepared responses and I am sure as a result...he will probably nail several of the questions.

If Obama doesn't get a pre-desired question...then listen closely...as he will then attempt to manipulate the dialog to a place where he can deliver a rehearsed diatribe. He will hope by doing so, to score points with those not smart enough to realize what he just did.

At times it will appear as though McCain, with his bland but honest straight answers, just can't get out of Obama's shadow...republicans across the nation will start to squirm with empathy. Then all of sudden McCain gets the pitch he has been waiting all night for...as we watch unexpectedly, out of nowhere, he hits one out of the park.

I just hope that a camera is on Obama's face as he watches all his hopes go over the proverbial center field fence.

Just remember, when everyone is gone and the lights have been turned off...no matter liberal or conservative, the last thing Americans will have on their minds as the nation drifts off to sleep...will be just a single question and one spectacular answer...McCain's.

Posted by: dwj2215 | September 26, 2008 4:47 PM

Did the Lord Obama play a role - or did his spirit just guide all of the Democrats? The Wash. Post is pathetically transparent. If you are going to investigate McCain's role, you should investigate the role of both candidates. Fairness should prevail. Of course, being a liberal rag is the same as being a conservative rag. When it comes to this election, POST = TIMES.

Posted by: darrren12000 | September 26, 2008 4:42 PM

amitchell13 you can not be serious? "This Administration sunk Hillary Clinton's chances at being President by the deception and poor judgment getting into the war." You are actually blaming Bush for Hillary's inability to win the dem nomination?!? Now that is a new take on the disease afflicting this county - "blame Bush first". Wow, that is really scary and unfortunate. For your own edification, Hillary had access to information and made her own determination -- really, if she is as smart as people say, then certainly she can read and assess the information. Oh, and by the way, Bill also said in the final years of his admin there were major issues with Iraq. But, even if Bush led us into a bad war, come on, your assertion is the height of absurdity. Truly amazing!

Posted by: sagedutch | September 26, 2008 4:40 PM

You guys lose this 'experience' argument every time. Each time you pile on Sarah Palin as "inexperienced", it blows up in your face when a Republican merely has to hold up the wafer-thin resume of your candidate for PRESIDENT.


Posted by: dbw1 | September 26, 2008 4:23 PM

The only evidence I need about Obama's foreign policy experience is to listen to him speak about various foreign policy subjects. He come across as thoughful, informed and reasonable. If Palin came off the same way, most people would not be crowing about her lack of experience. Everytime she opens her mouth in an unscripted setting, she reinforces the doubts that we all have about her readiness. If you can not see the difference between the two, you are beyond rescue.

Posted by: NMModerate1 | September 26, 2008 4:39 PM

"The objective evidence is that things got worse, not better, in Washington after McCain arrived."
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Bingo. But suddenly, it's okay for him to debate. This guy is all over the place, panicky, rash, One minute he HAS to be in Washington and is criticizing Obama for wanting to go on with the debate, the next he think debating is a good idea after all.

Beyond trying to insert himself in every picture, he did nothing. Actually, worse than that: things worsened, just as both democrats and republicans predicted.

From the utterly wacky, overwhelmed Palin, to the rash, reckless, frankly unhinged McCain, this pair has got to be one of the worst tickets in either party in recent memory. Wow.

Posted by: monk4hall | September 26, 2008 4:33 PM

dbw1:

Be a man for Christ's sake! Admit this shriveled old corpse called John McCain is a totally dysfunctional, desperately craven idiot. Is your denial that deep????

Posted by: H1000 | September 26, 2008 4:31 PM

Well enough of "THE JERRY SPINGER" 24/7 idiocy...I,m outta here!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 4:31 PM

As we enter the polling booth ... it is simple ... we forget the SPIN and remember the last 8 years ... I think as an Indepenedent the Democrats showed great respect to the office of the President by approving his initiatives at guiding them into a War in Iraq and in no small irony the Wall Street Bail Out. This Administration sunk Hillary Clinton's chances at being President by the deception and poor judgment getting into the war. And, we see the same thing being attempted by this recent crisis of mis-management ... Suck the Democrat into a hole that the Bush Administration has created. The subprime loans and mortgages and easy borrowing was like paying for votes in the 2004 elections. Are we better off that we were 8 years ago? The answer is NO NO NO ... let the Republicans SPIN SPIN SPIN. The American people are not fools.

Posted by: amitchell13 | September 26, 2008 4:24 PM

sdecker:

Since you are convinced of Sarah Palin's lack of foreign policy credentials, perhaps you would like to start a list on here of Barack Obama's credentials? Can you think of any?

You guys lose this 'experience' argument every time. Each time you pile on Sarah Palin as "inexperienced", it blows up in your face when a Republican merely has to hold up the wafer-thin resume of your candidate for PRESIDENT.

Posted by: dbw1 | September 26, 2008 4:23 PM

Nobody is talking about another reason McCain was trying to postpone the debates...he was busy in NYC parading Ms.Palin from photo op to photo op and didn't prepare for the debate...go back and read the articles from earlier this week and last...while Obama all along planned to head to Florida for debate camp, McCain dissed the idea to prepare for the first debate...I hope he finally takes the time to read the two and one-half page Treasury proposal before walking on stage tonight

Posted by: gbeach | September 26, 2008 4:20 PM

DrainYou:

Thanks for being here. The liberal bloggers need loyal footsoldiers to troll the boards and paste their crap for all to ignore.

Posted by: dbw1 | September 26, 2008 4:18 PM

The Fix writes : "He now awaits the judgment of voters on his performance of the past two days."

Really? Voters will need to judge him based on what he did for those 2 days and not what contributed to this country during his entire adult life?

I guess such time frames favor Obama as he is basically yesterday's kid.

Posted by: ssensharma | September 26, 2008 4:16 PM

Well, seems to me that after hearing from BOTH sides not just the dems, your statement that "The objective evidence is that things got worse, not better, in Washington after McCain arrived. There was a tentative deal, announced by congressional leaders, when McCain landed in Washington. Hours later, there were recriminations and chaos." is just flat wrong. It is quite apparent the dems rushed to say there was an agreement in place to insert their own politics into this situation. It is also apparent at this point that McCain's "insertion" brought to a head the differences that the House republicans had with the outline that was being pushed. To be fair, your article should have at least noted that it is far better to get this moving now than wait until something is written and on the floor for a vote. But you like many of the posters on this site are not able to be objective in this discussion. (To someone who said that McCain has never shown an interest in these topics before, it is obvious that you've decided to get your "news" from the likes of the WP. The reality even on the topic of this meltdown is flat wrong. McCain proposed a significant structural change to the quasi-gov agencies of Fannie and Freddie. The dems wanted NO PART of this. I know, most of you believe the dems have no blame whatsoever to share in this mess. Of course, you are blinded by your bias if believe that or if you believe that McCain has not proposed solutions in this arena other than deregulation.)

Posted by: sagedutch | September 26, 2008 4:15 PM

This will be interesting tonight,,,,How the 72 year old cancer faced person that can't goggle turns it into RAMBO in a JET destroying IRAN! I'm sure Karl Rove has his "MORON CROWD"!
FOX ANYONE?

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 4:14 PM

According to Graham (a man in his own camp, for goodness sakes), "John was getting ready to leave, literally going out the door with me. He said, thank you for all you have done for me. I don't know the terms of the deal. We need a deal. I am appreciative of the need for a deal."

I'm so glad that McCain was in Washington interjecting his clear understanding of the matter being negotiated. What would America have done without him?

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That is your interpretation of CLEAR UNDERSTANDING? "WE NEED A DEAL"?
You are a MORON!!!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse
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Uh, you are the moron. Don't you know irony and sarcasm when you read it? Did you ever take a junior high English class, for goodness sakes? What's wrong with you?

Posted by: multiplepov | September 26, 2008 4:12 PM

According to Graham (a man in his own camp, for goodness sakes), "John was getting ready to leave, literally going out the door with me. He said, thank you for all you have done for me. I don't know the terms of the deal. We need a deal. I am appreciative of the need for a deal."

I'm so glad that McCain was in Washington interjecting his clear understanding of the matter being negotiated. What would America have done without him?

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That is your interpretation of CLEAR UNDERSTANDING? "WE NEED A DEAL"?
You are a MORON!!!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 4:08 PM

Jeopardy Question: How could Minority Leader John Boehner have issued a joint statement with Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday night declaring bipartisan progress if his troops were drafting an alternative that would result in turmoil when it surfaced?

Jeopardy Response: What is backstabbing partisan politics?

Posted by: multiplepov | September 26, 2008 4:05 PM

McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, the man who helped McCain deregulate Wall Street and McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, is back with the campaign.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.


In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:
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Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.
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Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."


*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."


Here's some more Mavericky Straight-Talk, my friends:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: DrainYou | September 26, 2008 4:05 PM

If it took "Presidential politics" to stop a $700 billion fleecing of the American taxpayers, I'm glad he did it. However, I don't think McCain is a Saint (yet).

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 4:04 PM

According to Graham (a man in his own camp, for goodness sakes), "John was getting ready to leave, literally going out the door with me. He said, thank you for all you have done for me. I don't know the terms of the deal. We need a deal. I am appreciative of the need for a deal."

I'm so glad that McCain was in Washington interjecting his clear understanding of the matter being negotiated. What would America have done without him?

Posted by: multiplepov | September 26, 2008 4:03 PM

Burning Down the House. The Cause of the Economic Crisis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Posted by: joep1 | September 26, 2008 4:01 PM

Q: "Should she not have asked Kissinger in their meeting why he favored talking to the Iranians when she and McCain do not?"

A: Because Sarah Pallin does not know Henry Kissinger's views on any foreign policy topic. I would be willing to bet that, even before her crash course in foreign policy, Sarah Palin barely had a clue as to who Henry Kissinger is, or what his involvement with world politics has been over many decades. Why do people try so hard to advance the notion that Sarah Palin is suddenly such a learned person on foreign affairs? And why does Sarah Palin find it so unbelievable that people would mock her for claiming foreign affairs expertise because she is the Governor of the U.S. state most closely situated to Russia and Canada? Are she and her supporters really that naive?

Posted by: sdecker | September 26, 2008 4:01 PM

McCain got his photo ops, much like George Bush always standing in front of the troops. If the truth were known, McCain added very little to the debates over and the writing of the bailout bill.

Deep down inside me, I wish that Wall Street and the fat cat bankers would get their due. Of course, I am invested in them. I gave up the idea of putting the jar in the backyard years ago.

I have always been amazed at the palaces that the financiers in this country have constructed over the years. I call this "overhead." Granted, we do not like to see our banks look like mom-and-pop stores. However, the Taj Mahals that they have built defy all reason.

Is it true that Treasury Secretary Paulson earned $40 million a year heading up one of those big firms? You would think he could come up with more than 3.5 pages of solution. He is one expensive operator. It seems as if his golden parachute came to him in annual installments.

It is mind-boggling. I do know this: there is nothing that McCain could realistically add to the conversation in DC, especially after his poor showing last week.

Posted by: EarlC | September 26, 2008 3:59 PM

The TRUTH about this bailout is that Sen. McCain arrived in Washington to find the Democrats working with the Bush
Administration to pass an unpopular $700 billion bailout. The Democrats had already cut their deal with Bush. The Dems agreed to the price tag while Bush agreed to special aid to families facing foreclosure, equity for the taxpayers, and limits on executive compensation. But no sooner had McCain arrived than he derailed an absolutely horrible deal. And every taxpayer in America should thank McCain for it.

Knowing how unpopular the bailout is with the American people, the Democrats are not about to pass anything without broad Republican support even though their majorities permit them to act alone. Instead of signing on with the Democratic/Bush package, the House Republicans are insisting on replacing the purchase of corporate debt with loans to companies and insurance paid for by the companies, not by the taxpayers. That, of course, is a popular position. McCain would be comfortable to debate this issue division all day.

But the Democrats are not about to be stubborn. They know their package is a lemon and need the political cover of Republican support. So the Republicans can write their own ticket…and they will. John McCain will be at the center of the emerging compromise while Obama is out on the campaign trail kissing babies. McCain should show up to the debate and flagellate Obama over the differences between the Democratic package and McCain’s. McCain is a leader. He had the foresight to see what a mess the plan the Administration and the dems wanted would be.


Posted by: ekcurran | September 26, 2008 3:29 PM
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Bravo. You must've worked on your post VERY hard to have spun this to favor McCain. YOUR truth is that McCain did this because he cared so much for his country. You McCainiacs never cease to amaze me with your justifications on McCain's behavior. MY truth is that he's a reckless, gambling grandstander who thought he could take a chance in upsurping what appeared to be an agreement between all of the parties, then after he had gotten involved, said agreement was suddenly shot down. Are you kidding me? McCain brought in Presidential politics and made this a partisian situation. Obama did the wise thing, and stood quietly on the sidelines, only offering to get involved if he was needed. McCain was all over the place, sticking his nose in places he had no business being. You McCainiacs are an absolute trip. ANYTHING McCain does is perfect. Pathetic.

Posted by: SGall23241 | September 26, 2008 3:59 PM

What did Obama do on his trip, apart from the usual grandstanding? I am still searching for some info. May be the ObamaBots here can help.

Posted by: ssensharma | September 26, 2008 3:44 PM |
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Barack went to the "FARCE" because his President requested it! McCain called the FARCE because Karl Rove thought a little more crap on the fan can't hurt! McCain said nothing...Barack said he wants us taxpayers to buy shares in these "WALL STREET CHOP SHOPS", not buy their friggin chopped up junk! He also said that the "BANKRUPTCY LAWS" that were prior to Bush should be reactivated...NO JUDGE SHOULD be able to decide who gets relief,,,especially after Alberto Gonzales put all his thugs on the bench!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 3:59 PM

"Whether you think that is a "concrete" action, or not, he did exactly what he set out to do."

You mean "concrete" as in making the whole process hit a wall... until Mitch McConnell told him to get his butt out of town??

Posted by: plaza04433 | September 26, 2008 3:58 PM

MarkinAustin - Sounds like you think John McCain is the new Mother Theresa.

Posted by: boomerkid3465 | September 26, 2008 3:56 PM

BTW....the old codger is also not prepared for the debate. In his very limited prep, he's been practicing with Michael Steele as Barack's stand-in. Gee.....Michael Steele? I wonder why? Is John so feeble-minded that he needs his debate practice opponent color-coded too?

Posted by: MIpatriot08 | September 26, 2008 3:52 PM

McCain met with Republicans and put together a coalition that will force a BETTER bill to protect Main Street, not just Wall Street. Whether you think that is a "concrete" action, or not, he did exactly what he set out to do. In my opinion, McCain he took the right action to address this crisis. The following is from his statement Wednesday:

"It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.

I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.

We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis."

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 3:49 PM

The real truth.....John needed to take a nap. Now that he's had a nap, Sarah's changed his diaper, and he's had his oatmeal - Ole Miss, here I come!

Posted by: MIpatriot08 | September 26, 2008 3:46 PM

What did Obama do on his trip, apart from the usual grandstanding? I am still searching for some info. May be the ObamaBots here can help.

Posted by: ssensharma | September 26, 2008 3:44 PM

Is ekcurran on drugs? LOL

He needs to read the article about McCain's participation in the meeting yesterday. He made no contribution to the meeting!

McCain hasn't presented a plan. Apparently, he used the meeting as a photo op.

Posted by: MyVoteDoesNotCountInAlabama | September 26, 2008 3:43 PM

There are 100 Senators, 435 Congressman, the President, the Vice President, Heads of the Regulatory agencies, god knows how many members of the treasury department, in other words will over 500 people working on this issue in Washington.

And John McCain's ego is so big he thinks his is the only opinion that counts.

Sad sad sad.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | September 26, 2008 3:39 PM

I wonder what dwashington1 has to say about all this...

Posted by: Waffle365 | September 26, 2008 3:36 PM

I was just wondering: why would McCain's "leadership" be needed? Wasn't his glorious president there? Was Bush doing any leading, or was he just there to refill the popcorn and peanuts?

Posted by: EnjoyEverySandwich | September 26, 2008 3:33 PM

TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOV'T AGENCIES
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress is being asked to rush through emergency legislation -- to cede effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis. But were lenders ORDERED to offer "easy credit" to people "targeted" by government agencies?

Is government "targeting" of American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?

Consider this:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis OR
members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 26, 2008 3:33 PM

mccain has nothing to offer intellectually re the bailout plan. he acknowledged he doesn't know much about economics a while back and isn't capable of providing helpful advice. to the extent the bill is put together by people who think about and understand the problems, he's not going to be relevant. he'll have a vote, but he isn't capable of taking the lead --- he isn't accomplishing anything by sitting in on the meetings. he'll have a 3 line presentation of the problem in the debate, though it will be someone else's words. he calculated he'd get hillary's voters with palin, and the public saw through it, she's simply inept, a know nothing.

voters will also see through his claim that he 'set aside politics' to help resolve a problem: the reality is, he cannot help and is posturing--not every legislator can help, it's sort of complicated--though he's particularly not a genius.

mccain gave a purely political response to an economic problem and is trying to sell it as a leadership move; it was as calculating as any other election year choice he's made. the public will be too smart for that as well, wasn't that long ago he disavowed an interest in the subject matter.
on saving the day, compare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfsrg28jE7k

Posted by: e9999999 | September 26, 2008 3:31 PM

The TRUTH about this bailout is that Sen. McCain arrived in Washington to find the Democrats working with the Bush
Administration to pass an unpopular $700 billion bailout. The Democrats had already cut their deal with Bush. The Dems agreed to the price tag while Bush agreed to special aid to families facing foreclosure, equity for the taxpayers, and limits on executive compensation. But no sooner had McCain arrived than he derailed an absolutely horrible deal. And every taxpayer in America should thank McCain for it.

Knowing how unpopular the bailout is with the American people, the Democrats are not about to pass anything without broad Republican support even though their majorities permit them to act alone. Instead of signing on with the Democratic/Bush package, the House Republicans are insisting on replacing the purchase of corporate debt with loans to companies and insurance paid for by the companies, not by the taxpayers. That, of course, is a popular position. McCain would be comfortable to debate this issue division all day.

But the Democrats are not about to be stubborn. They know their package is a lemon and need the political cover of Republican support. So the Republicans can write their own ticket…and they will. John McCain will be at the center of the emerging compromise while Obama is out on the campaign trail kissing babies. McCain should show up to the debate and flagellate Obama over the differences between the Democratic package and McCain’s. McCain is a leader. He had the foresight to see what a mess the plan the Administration and the dems wanted would be.

Posted by: ekcurran | September 26, 2008 3:29 PM

THOSE RICH WALL STREET SPECULATING GOP REPUBLICANS WHO DROVE THE BUS INTO THE DITCH, WILL NOT BE TRUSTED TO DRIVE THE BUS OUT OF THAT DITCH.

SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR GOP REPUBLICAN HAND PICKED STOOGES IN THE WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION, SENATE, SUPREME COURT, TREASURY, SEC AND CONGRESS TOGETHER HAVE $1 TRILLION WORTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S ASSETS (DOMESITC AND HIDDEN ABROAD) THAT MUST BE RETURNED TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

AMERICA WANTS ITS $1 TRILLION BACK NOW AND CRIMINAL TRIALS FOR ALL INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ARE THE NEW LAWS OF THE LAND.

TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS. GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION.

GOP REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES FOR DECADES STOLE AND SQUANDERED AVERAGE AMERICANS’ MONEY ON HIGH RISK UNSECURED WALL STREET LAS VEGAS STYLE SPECULATIONS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR COMPENSATION PACKAGES SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS.

THESE GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES, SPECULATORS AND CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES SHOULD BE IN HANDCUFFS. ALL OF THEIR ASSETS SHOULD BE CONFISCATED, LIQUIDATED AND RETURNED THE TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN FLEECING OF AMERICA

CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS

ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY
IS NOT THIS THE SAME THING THAT THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS SAID TO START THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR!

LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS (BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PAULSON, MCCAIN) AND THEIR WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALIST SPECULATING FELLOW CONSPIRATOR FRIENDS

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL

THIS GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET MELTDOWN IS CRIMINAL MISUSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S MONEY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL (TREASON)

D STUDENT JOHN MCCAIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR BARACK OBAMA

MOOSE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SARAH PALIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH LAW SCHOLAR JOE BIDEN

Hmmm, let's see. We have a bunch of republicans whining about wanting these CEOs to keep their fortunes, multiple houses and cars, and they want the taxpayers to bail them out. But when the taxpayer wanted help to keep THEIR homes, they were called a bunch of whiners by these SAME republicans and were given NO bailout.

Why are their oversized fortunes more important than the rest of America's modest and undersized ones?

Now, for the last time, once and for all, explain to me how Obama is the elitist and the republicans are "just like you and me." Go ahead. I triple dog dare you.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

REPLACE GOP REPUBLICAN CEO GOLDEN PARACHUTES WITH CRIMINAL TRIALS AND PROPERTY CONFISCATION. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL AND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WILL BE REINSTATED. LONG LIVE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE. CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WILL BE THE LAW OF THE LAND.

INSIDE JOB AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL:
GOP REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE ILLEGAL WARS AND
WALL STREET CRIMINAL DEREGULATED SPECULATIONS

You asked for it and you got it. GOP REPUBLICANS INSIDERS McCain, Bush, Cheney, Paulson, and Rice were hired by Super-Capitalists (Super Wealthy GOP REPUBLICANS) to start Illegal Oil Wars against Oil producing Nations and DEREGULATE (eliminate AMERICAN PEOPLE PROTECTION) the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (White House, Congress, Supreme Court), TREASURY and WALL STREET. These INSIDERS did exactly what they were paid to do. Past GOP REPUBLICANS (Nixon, Reagan, Bush I) and current GOP REPUBLICANS (Bush II, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Paulson) have a credibility factor of zero. Americans no longer believe them, the World has never believed them and now they are done. They came in with the 9/11 attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE and leave with the Wall Street $1Trillion attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Wave after wave after wave the GOP REPUBLICANS attack the AMERICAN PEOPLE based on the premise of disrespect for anyone who is not a GOP RICH REPUBLICAN. Either you are in their group (GOP RICH REPUBLICAN) or out (debt ridden worker bee / victim). GOP REPUBLICANS view the AMERICAN PEOPLE as gullible sheep perpetually fattened with debt and led to the subhuman existence slaughter. When slavery (free labor) ended GOP RICH REPUBLICANS attacked and enslaved the people of the world through unbalanced trade. Now that foreign sweatshops are demanding better pay and treatment, GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are attacking the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS. GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are banking on the idea that the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS are non-thinking drones fat with artificial food, high on Wall Street sponsored imported drugs (legal / illegal), and choked with clutter, debt and noise.

Through massive GOP REPUBLICAN SPONSORED DEREGULATIONS, GOP REPUBLICAN CEOs, Treasury Secretary, Wall Street Speculators, White House Administration, Cabinet Members, and their insider friends each walked away with more than $20,000,000 annually of money stolen directly from the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). After eight years of GRAND FRAUD AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, thousands of GOP REPUBLICANS ROBBED OUR UNITED STATES TREASURY OF $1TRILLION (ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE).

The AMERICAN PEOPLE will hold ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON accountable before a TRIAL. ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON will have ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES (corporate and private, domestic and foreign sheltered) CONFISCATED, SOLD and RETURNED to OUR NATIONAL TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). The UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION (WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) shall prevail, despite the criminal efforts of GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALIST CRIMINALS.

CONGRESS WILL NOT ADJOURN UNTIL AFTER THE GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY FIX THEIR COLOSSAL MESS

GOP (GOOD OLDBOY PRIVATEERS)


GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN WALL STREET DEREGULATIONS
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN ALSO WANTED TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY (BONEHEAD)
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored landmark legislation in 1999 that removed the walls between banks, investment firms and insurance companies. GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN bill allowed a company like AIG to expand beyond its traditional insurance business (which is still profitable) into exotic new extremely high risk products that brought the company down and created this colossal mess.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
THE GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Average Americans are becoming poorer, because GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET super rich SPECULATORS and corporate CEOs are paying themselves, business partners, friends, and family members at least $20,000,000 annually from MONEY STOLEN FROM THE U.S. TREASURY. These major crimes committed by WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND CEOs have gone beyond greed and into acts of treason against the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Seize the stolen money and properties valued in the $TRILLIONS back from these super criminals for attacking America. Those stolen $MILLIONS / $BILLIONS / $TRILLIONS belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

RULE OF LAW states that the People of the United States will be defended. Those who attack American Citizens will be prosecuted. WALL STREET SPECULATORS and CORPORATE CEOs dictatorship over the AMERICAN PEOPLE is over. Average Americans are not going to accept WALL STREET CORPORATE CRIMES anymore. Rights of Citizen and Average Workers of the United States will be enforced. The AMERICAN PEOPLE will always come before corporate interests, because Americans Love America more than Wall Street Speculators love greed.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET $TRILLION FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

Direct impact of GOP McCain sponsored deregulations
Bankrupt and floundering
Failure of the investment bank
Government's takeover

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's business model has collapsed

Greed and fear routinely govern GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial markets and GLOBAL CRISIS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET (giant investment houses, brokerage firms, hedge funds, "private equity" firms) irresponsibly TRADED the savings of average Americans (placed LAS VEGAS STYLE BETS on extremely high risk stocks, bonds, and other securities).

DUBIOUS MORTGAGES were PACKAGED into BONDS and SOLD and TRADED. Investment houses had huge incentives to increase LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING).

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET compensation is heavily skewed toward annual bonuses, reflecting the profits traders and managers earned in the tune of lavish base salaries and obscenely high annual bonuses of $20,000,000.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET relies heavily on OBSCENELY HIGH LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING). $3 Trillion (stocks, bonds, other securities) backed by only $80 billion in shareholders' equity while the $2.8 Trillion was LEVERAGE (BORROWED).

Leverage (huge borrowing) can create huge debts (huge principal and interest obligations)

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET is a manic machine for gambling.
Traders and money managers are given huge incentives to do whatever would increase short-term profits.

For decades, GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored legislation that broadly deregulated WALL STREET banking and insurance industries.

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN swept away Consumer Protection legislation and opened the way for a less restricted high risk financial marketplace.

While the GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET boom continued, government (White House, Congress, Supreme Court) looked the other way.

GOP REPUBLICAN Congress resisted tougher regulation and permitted WALL STREET to run out of control at obscenely high LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWED MONEY) RATIOS perpetrating intentional fraud against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET leaders intentionally deceived customers and lenders into taking hazardous risks for short-term rewards regardless of the long-term dangers to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Mortgages went bad. The powerful high leverage went into reverse. Losses eroded firms' capital bases and raised doubts about their survival.

Financial firms took major stupid and wasteful risks that severely damaged the American Economy and impeded economic recovery.

GOP REPUBLICAN STOCK MARKET $TRILLION FRAUD has deepened consumers' pessimism, fear and reluctance to spend. There may be more failures of FINANCIAL FIRMS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial crises resemble the GOP REPUBLICAN illegal miscalculated war.


How were we ever made to believe that the now-collapsing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET model ever made sense? Common sense should have told us that making RISKY BETS with HUGE AMOUNTS of BORROWED MONEY was a DANGEROUS GAME; if the bets pay off you make money beyond your wildest dreams, but if they go bad you face utter ruin.

Common sense should have told us that betting fortunes on meaningless fluctuations in stock, bond or currency values (McCain sponsored deregulated hedge funds) was about as productive as a trip to Las Vegas. Common sense should have told us that buying and selling exotic securities based on other securities based on bundles of mortgages that were treated like mere numbers on a balance sheet (no recognition that the whole iffy construct was based on real people living in real houses that they might or might not be able to afford) was not an intelligent endeavor.

Somehow, we all forgot that "HIGHLY LEVERAGED" is just another way of saying "DEEPLY INDEBTED." Now we've had a wake-up call, and maybe the erstwhile Masters of the Universe will have to stop playing with imaginary money and go back to using the real stuff.


The View Destroyed Unprepared GOP REPUBLICAN John McCain

McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for voting against Women Rights


RULE OF LAW WILL ENFORCE CONFISCATION OF ALL GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS’ AND CEOS’ PERSONAL PROPERTIES RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ECONOMY’S MELTDOWN. All money and properties of the Super Rich CEOs and WALL STREET Speculators domestic and abroad will be confiscated and returned to the United States TREASURY and the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET GET RICH QUICK GREEDY
BILLION DOLLARS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS
REPACKAGED AND SOLD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET ROBBER BARONS
COMMIT TREASON AND GRAND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

Comments uttered by Sarah Palin has angered Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton who described Sarah Palin as an opportunist with no qualifications. Senator Hillary Clinton also stated that John McCain and Sarah Palin’s records on women’s rights are abominable. The country cannot withstand anymore George Bush failures cloaked in McCain/Palin. Asking Sarah Palin to become Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorsed Pro-Women’s Rights ticket Obama / Biden for their outstanding work bettering the lives of women.

During her first term as Mayor, Palin went on an intense firing spree by sacking, or requesting resumes and resignation letters from the chief of police, finance director, public works director, and librarian.

In October of 1996, Palin consulted the city librarian about censoring "objectionable" books. The librarian was shocked and responded that the books were selected "on the basis of national selection criteria of libraries this size" and would resist all efforts to ban or remove any books from the library. A few months later Emmons received a letter from Palin stating that she had been terminated from her job. Emmons was reinstated the next day after public outcry.

Long time Alaskan acquaintance described Sarah Palin as a malicious, conniving opportunist, a reckless spender, and power abuser. Initially Palin supported the 'bridge to nowhere' project and even wore t-shirts that supported the project. When she realized that the project was not supported by the public she decided to back off.

Palin is an avid pro-lifer. Teen pregnancies are a major dilemma facing the nation today. The government spent $1 billion in supporting abstinence-only sex education programs since 1996. In the case of Palin's daughter, such programs are failing us. Palin is comfortable with giving her own daughter a choice, but wants to take away that choice from the rest of the nation.

By picking a young, attractive and vivacious woman as his partner in crime, McCain hoped to pull in all the disappointed Clinton supporters. This was his crucial mistake, because Sarah Palin is the antithesis of Hillary Clinton. She stands against women rights and would reverse women's rights by fifty years. Women are not as gullible as McCain and his advisors had hoped that they would be. Just because McCain placed a young woman in front of the crowd does not mean women will automatically vote for her without any question. Women will soon realize that Sarah Palin is an anti-choice, homophobic, polar bear, wolf, moose, and deer killing machine.

Sarah Palin is incapable of writing a speech. The speech given by her at the Republican National Convention was written long before she was considered for McCain’s running mate by the computer. McCain had never heard of Palin until after the computer printed her name one day before his announcement.

The thought that Sarah Palin will do anything in the White House is unsettling, because she is a unhinged lunatic who will mess up and give the public the perception that women cannot be in power. Hillary Rodham Clinton and women throughout the country are very angry that Sarah “moose hunter” Palin is in such an important position. Four out of Sarah’s five best friends have committed to Barack Obama.


GOP REPUBLICANS ARE AUTHORITARIANS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH OR DEMOCRACY. GOP REPUBLICAN ONLY INTERESTS ARE POWER AND MONEY.


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).


PALIN FAILIN RETURNED HOME TO 2,000 ALASKAN PROTESTERS WHO CHEERFULLY CHANTED "O-BAM-AH.

Gov. Sarah Palin returned home to 2,000 protesters outside the Anchorage library who wanted to correct the widespread impression that the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

"Last week a group of women were sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement,"

A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin Failin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

Asking Sarah Palin to become the Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

Sarah Palin Failin Protesters Held Signs Reading:

Bush In A Skirt
Palin Be Failin
Jesus Was a Community Organizer
Palin Failin: Thanks But No Thanks
Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time
Candidate To Nowhere
Rape Kits Should Be Free
Voted For Her Once: Never Again!
Community Organizers are the Real Patriots
Barbies for War
I Shall Not Be Pandered To
Give Palin Failin Your Vote AND Your Draft Age Child
Sarah Palin Failin: So Far Right She's Wrong
Alaska Is Not Frisco
Coat Hangers for McCain
Sarah Palin Failin, Undoing 150 Years of American Feminism
Hockey Mama for Obama (on a hockey stick)


Cheerful chants of "O-bam-ah.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICES

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, and its a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer,
become President of the Harvard Law Review,
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters,
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people,
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee,
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees,
you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years
on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less
than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, and cook caribou/grizzly/wolf stew, then you're qualified to become the country's second
highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters,
all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,
and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,
you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only,
with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm
to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family,
your family's values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and
once was a member of a group that advocated: the secession of Alaska from the USA,
your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA

LONDON - BRITISH PRIME MINISTER GORDON BROWN voiced support for UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA, saying he would help Americans struggling with an economic downturn.

In a move seen by some British media as a break with a political convention requiring foreign leaders to remain neutral ahead of US elections, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN praised MR. OBAMA as a fellow “progressive politician” who would help ordinary Americans in tough times. With eight weeks to go before the presidential election, MR. OBAMA and his Republican rival John McCain are neck-and-neck in domestic opinion polls.

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN described the race for the White House as “electrifying” and said: “It is the DEMOCRATS who are generating the ideas to help people through more difficult times.”

“To help prevent people from losing their home, BARACK OBAMA has proposed a Foreclosure Prevention Fund to increase emergency pre-foreclosure counselling, and help families facing repossession,” he wrote in an article in The Monitor magazine, a monthly political publication.


2008 UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL RACE

DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN D STUDENTS

OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW AND PRESIDENT OF HARVARD LAW REVIEW
BIDEN OF SYRACUSE LAW

MCCAIN OF NAVY ACADEMY LAST PLACE D STUDENT
PALIN FAILIN OF MOOSE COLLEGE

GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

STOP DESTRUCTIVE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM OIL SPECUALTARS (OIL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN, PALIN FAILIN)

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE

WHY A BARREL OF OIL ILLEGALLY SHOT UP FROM $24 TO $145 DURING THE GOP REPUBLICAN (MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PALIN FAILIN) ADMINISTRATION


GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH I OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH II OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN CHENEY OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN RICE OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN GUILIANI OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN PALIN FAILIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL COMMISSIONER AND OIL STOCKHOLDER


TOGETHER WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ARE ALL GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRES AND OIL STOCKHOLDERS


GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK


CAN YOU SAY GOP REPUBLICAN CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY, AND SPECULATE FOR OBSCENELY HIGH PROFIT RETURNS ON WALL STREET OIL STOCKS

WAKE UP AMERICA, BECAUCE THE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THE CRIMINAL GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONSPIRATORS

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE AS A VITAL RESOURCE

AMERICA AND AMERICANS FIRST

NO MORE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOOOOIIIIILLLLL SPECULATION AND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE AMERICA, THEN PROVE IT AND STOP THE GOP REPUBLICAN RAIDERS UPON OUR U.S. TREASURY AND OUTSOURCING OF U.S. JOBS


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS

Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?


How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.

FOUR MORE YEARS ANYONE?

Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin Failin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

D Student Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin Failin are not reflective of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

If Palin Failin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


REPORT SAYS GOP REPUBLICAN OIL AGENCY RAN AMOK

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE OIL MARKETING GROUP


GOP REPUBLICAN Government officials in charge of collecting BILLIONS of dollars worth of royalties from OIL and gas companies accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drug use and illicit sex with employees of the energy firms, federal investigators reported.

Investigators from the Interior Department's inspector general's office said more than a dozen employees, including the former director of the OIL royalty program, took meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings from industry representatives. The report alleges that the former director, also netted more than $30,000 from improper outside work.

The report from Inspector General contains fresh allegations about the practices at the beleaguered royalty-in-kind program of Interior's Minerals Management Service, which last year collected more than $4 billion worth of OIL and natural gas from companies given contracts to tap energy on federal and Indian lands and offshore. The revelations come as Congress is set to consider opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and areas off the coast of Florida for drilling.

The royalty-in-kind program, based near Denver, allows energy companies to pay the government in OIL and gas, rather than cash, for the privilege of drilling on government land. It has been the subject of multiple investigations since 2006 by the Interior Department's secretary, its inspector general, the Justice Department and Congress for alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest.

In the report released yesterday, investigators said they "discovered a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" in which employees accepted gratuities "with prodigious frequency." The report cited one e-mail from a Shell Pipeline representative asking a woman in the royalty office to attend "tailgating festivities" at a Houston Texans football game: "You're invited . . . have you and the girls meet at my place at 6am for bubble baths and final prep."

Besides Shell, the energy company employees mentioned in the report worked for Chevron, Hess and Gary-Williams Energy. The social outings detailed in the report included alcohol-, cocaine- and marijuana-filled parties where certain employees of the Minerals Management Service were nicknamed the "MMS Chicks" by the energy employees. The companies paid for federal workers to attend football and baseball games, PGA Tour events, Colorado ski trips, paintball outings and "treasure hunts," investigators found.

"The OIL INDUSTRY holds shocking sway over the ADMINISTRATION and even KEY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES,". "This is why we must not allow BIG OIL'S AGENDA to be jammed through CONGRESS."

The current director of the Minerals Management Service, said that he takes the report "very seriously".
Employees identified in the report told investigators that they didn't think ethics rules applied to them because of their "unique" role in the agency and that they needed to socialize with industry representatives for "market intelligence," according to the report. Those employees, some of whom have been transferred to different offices, have been recommended for internal administrative action.

The inspector general's release comprised three separate reports, including one devoted to the program's director. It alleges that Smith improperly worked part time for Geomatrix Consultants, an Oakland, Calif.-based environmental and engineering firm, and marketed the company to government clients.

Additionally, the report said that the director had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he paid to buy cocaine, promising her a bonus in return. The director admitted to the sexual encounter.

The director, who now works for a private OIL company in Denver, did not respond to requests for comment. Investigators referred their findings to federal prosecutors.

Justice officials also declined to comment on their decision about the criminal case against the highest-ranking official named in the report director of the Minerals Management Service, who worked in Washington. She is accused of improperly arranging a million-dollar deal for two retired employees.

The wife of the procurement policy administrator for the WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, retired from government service Jan. 31. She declined to comment on the report. She told investigators she had a "personal issue. The Justice Department's decision to charge created a rift with Interior officials.

One of the two retired employees pleaded guilty in July to a federal conflict-of-interest charge related to the investigation. Another employee has been under investigation for similar conflict-of-interest allegations.

Before he left, Mayberry created a job for himself by writing the job description and the criteria for selecting the winning bidder, court documents show. He started a company out of his Texas home and was awarded a $150,000 contract in June 2003. He later hired Dial, the report said. Mayberry's firm collected $788,000 worth of contracts.

The royalty-in-kind program, which started as a small pilot project a decade ago, has been touted as a way to simplify the way OIL AND GAS COMPANIES pay for the right to drill on federal land and offshore. Instead of calculating the profit from a well, they can simply give the government one-eighth to one-sixth of whatever they take from the ground.

Revenue rose quickly, from $1.5 billion in 2004 to $4.3 billion last fiscal year. But the growth occurred "in an environment with relatively unstructured in-house oversight," the congressionally convened Royalty Policy Committee said in a December report. Previous reports have said that companies were allowed to revise their million-dollar bids for projects indiscriminately, that government workers routinely failed to seek out legal advice on complicated deals and that the agency used outdated computers and a $150 million software program that resulted in royalty money going uncollected.

A lawyer who represented states and tribes entitled to a cut of the royalties, said it was nearly impossible to get accurate numbers from the agency. "They kept hemming and hawing," she said.

In late 2006 questions arose over its handling of leases written in 1998 and 1999 that allowed major OIL companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico to avoid BILLIONS of dollars in royalty payments.

Former Interior Department auditors accused the agency of failing to bill companies. "We weren't allowed to audit them. It was disturbing," said an auditor who sued the federal government for not collecting royalties. "You couldn't see what was going on."

The minerals agency director said that the harm done by the royalty employees was to public trust and TREASURY, and acknowledged that financial considerations were given to firms that gave favors to federal employees, and he said the contracts will be audited.


Do you really question the motives of GOP Republicans Criminals? America must Immediately Nationalize U.S. OIL and Gas For National Defense.


DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET AND MUDVILLE

U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama

President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain


Growing Up

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s modem of operations. WillObscenelyRich Crash Every Plane McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.


Marriage

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain.


The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.

Hillary Clinton Will Destroy Sarah Palin Failin From Mooseville College.


Navy pilot John Sidney D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III was being held prisoner of war. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is receiving large donations.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John Crash Every Plane McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before Crash Every Plane McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN Crash Every Plane McCain: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a Crash Every Plane McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John Crash Every Plane McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When Crash Every Plane McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of Crash Every Plane McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John Crash Every Plane McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

Crash Every Plane McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the AMERICAN PEOPLE, robbing the National TREASURY, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Crash Every Plane McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

Crash Every Plane McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

Crash Every Plane McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE


GOP REPUBLICAN PLANE/TRAILER WRECK MCCAIN/PALIN FAILIN

With Wall Street OOOIIIIILLLLLL stocks paid under the table to Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner from OOOOOIIIIIILLLLLLL Millionaires Crash Every Plane McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Guiliani; it appears that Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner, her large family, dogs, cats, chickens, and hogs can now move out of their trailer. Guiliani went from GOP front runner to anonymous polygamist. Guiliani is the biggest joke and shares home dysfunction with Bush, Cheney, Rice, Crash Every Plane McCain and now Sarah trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner. OOOOIIIIILLLLLLL MILLIONS stolen from Our TREASURY did not help their dysfunctional families.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich by robbing the American TREASURY and outsourcing American jobs party has officially been dissolved. Plane wreck McCrash and Train wreck Trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners have destroyed the already dysfunctional GOP Republican Party of Corporate Welfare Thieves.

Democrats and Independents are the official parties. Blessings to America and the World for peaceful cooperation and the elimination of unjust wars for GOP profits. The People First Party has arrived and Rich Wall Street millionaires will no longer use the AMERICAN PEOPLE as their cattle. Americans today are all free independent Democratic People in pursuit of happiness in the spirit of cooperation.

“We joined up with an altruistic vision of promoting freedom and justice around the world,” said Vince Emanuel, a Marine lance corporal who did a tour of duty in Iraq from August 2004 to April 2005, explaining why he was marching and protesting the GOP Republican Convention.

“Except we saw the killing of innocent people and the destruction of property ... for a lot of us it was very disenfranchising."

The veterans group tried to hand a message to the campaign of GOP Republican John Crash Every Plane McCain calling for a withdrawal from Iraq, reparations for the Iraqi people, and full medical benefits for veterans. No one from John Crash Every Plane McCain’s campaign received them.


If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

Prerequisite for the United Stats President and Vice President is advance degrees, especially in Constitutional Law. D student McCain and hillbilly Palin Failin are excluded from the highest offices in the World. The debates will be fun: Harvard Law vs. Crash Jet and Mudville.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS

Posted by: dwashington1 | September 26, 2008 3:15 PM


Below...

that says McCain always planned to debate tongiht.

NO, he didn't. THis whole thing was premised around his NOT having to do it.
His campaign realizes he's not really there any more. A husk, to frequently foggy and senile.

He hasn't told anyone whether he opposes the bailout bill. HE doesn't know! He can't figure it out. Why do we pretend. Watch tonight.

And Palin? Oh, God, Palin.

Posted by: whistling | September 26, 2008 3:06 PM

Hey y'all here is how great John McCain is doing, he has ALREADY won the debate before it happens or did it happen yet? Does he remember?

I tell you Karl Rove wastes no time spinning his lies, can you say, Satan at work through his minions?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/mccain-camp-releases-ad-claiming-debate-victory/

Posted by: corrupt_goverment | September 26, 2008 3:05 PM

What now...maybe McCain won't show up for the debate...right? Wrong...not only will he show up, but he has devastated Obama and the democrats plan...so not only will McCain clean his clock at the debate...he has taken some of the wind out of Obama's image of being better on the economy...after all it's just words.

You know...you democrats play a good political game and certainly deserve the silver for your efforts...but it's the republicans that own the gold.

Posted by: dwj2215 | September 26, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

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This is a fascinating rewrite of the last 72 hours but it doesn't hold up at all.

The initial plan was a 3 pager offered by Treasury Secretary Paulson. It requested a $700B blank check and no oversight, not even the possibility of review.

Congressional Democrats said no way, as did Congressional Republicans. (Good for them.)

Bipartisan negotiations ensued. The White House gave in on the Democrats' key points: limits on executive compensation (no golden parachutes), funding means equity buy-in and not just paying off bad investments, and strict Congressional oversight on how the money is spent.

After blaming partisanship--when it appears both parties were working on the solution rather well-- the McCain campaign requested that the White House convene a summit, to which Obama was invited late. (My working thesis here is that 1) McCain wanted to be "the hero" and take responsibility for any agreement made and 2) if things didn't work out, he could skip the debate and avoid any fallout for having blown his grandstand play.)

The summit backfired. What could have been a bipartisan moment fizzled as an alternate plan was advanced by the House GOP and McCain refused to endorse any plan-- something the Democrats insisted on, so that EVERYONE would be on record with this bailout. McCain wouldn't be able to weasel out by saying "I never supported the plan."

Now the negotiations are back to square one and McCain is going to the debate after all. His 36 hours of political theater have blown up and he can't take credit for whatever comes next.

I'd like to say nice try, djw, but your post is so far off the mark, it's practically science fiction.

Posted by: dbitt | September 26, 2008 3:03 PM

I'm thinking you must either need to be drunk or on drugs or both while listening to or watching anything McLame does.
It's kind of like watching a crazy person bounce off the wall in a mental institution. No offense to crazy people.

Posted by: sfilutze | September 26, 2008 3:02 PM

dwj2215, boy have they trained you better.

I asked a simple question of clarity. And you dance rhetorical...dipping dangerously close to actually answering my question...before resuming the dance of words.

Lets try it this way.

Homeowners made bad call
Wall street made bad call

McCain wants/does not want to assist homeowners?

I didn't touch on what you later wrote...cause remember...I didn't read all of the piece (tip off could have been me stating that I stopped reading at the paragraph I quoted) because I found that one statement so astounishing.

Now having read all the piece, can you show me where it states...as you state...that McClain wants to now include homeowners in the package. And please don't write "taxpayer" in response. How many homeless taxpayers do you know?

Posted by: kban495 | September 26, 2008 3:02 PM

The German minister who this morning noted that America is "No longer a superpower"...has made
everybody angry, because they realize he's right.

Go read the names of Clinton's chief advisors and their backgrounds. They started it. Clinton didn't realize their objectives, the long long plan.

Then Bush, made Wolfowitz his foreign policy advisor...Wolfie and others loaded the administration with his claque...

who handed over Wall Street and the
Pentagon and State to the zionist neocons. War in Iraq, screamin to bomb iran, STILL, and the latest plan to reel Russia into war with Georgia (Israel of the Caucauses, they call it.

And of course Wall Street was voided of any superivision, don't mention regulation.

ANd here we are. Didn't take them long.
Happy New Year.

Americans would do well to check mcCain's masters, his advisors and campaign managers, and their bakgrounds, before doing more of the same.

Hopefully it isn't too late. But they're layered in there like the rats they are and America, as we knew it before them is very fragile. History certainly does repeat.

Posted by: whistling | September 26, 2008 2:59 PM

Posted by: dwj2215 | September 26, 2008 2:39 PM

Obama will unite the nation by marginalizing people such as yourself who not only disagree but demonize their opposition. You are not doing anything different than John McCain has done by making ad hominem attacks on Obama's character. Obama has been out ahead on issues and attacks McCain fairly strongly and even at times unfairly. But as long as the attacks are not personal you can re-establish bridges later.

By sticking to issues and listening to his opposition and modifying his positions when needed he will lead this country.
You probably will not understand but those that wish to restore the greatness of this country will and it is they and not you who will do the heavy lifting.

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 2:58 PM

McCain had no role in the negotiations except to DERAIL them. Now, will he actually have the nerve to try to say that he was the one who coaxed the hardline conservatives back to the table? Please tell me no one on the hill, in the media, or in the public actually believes his presence during all this was beneficial.

Posted by: ChrisDC | September 26, 2008 2:56 PM

Lets see, the repubs and dems say they have come to agreement on principles, then McCain decides to come to town, then the repubs say they have a differnt plan, Bush has a meeting where McCain gets his picture taken looking important at the big table, then McCain decides to leave for the debate and now we hear the repubs are coming back to the table.

If this doesn't look bad for McCain I don't know what does. On the face of it his presence caused the political differences, which are disappearing as he leaves. He will need to explain just what he did. If he can't say he twisted an arm or two he will look very weak, which he is.

One thing is clear, the republican congress is ready to do battle in the dirt with whomever is in the Whitehouse considering how they have run all over Bush this week they will likely try to run over McCain or Obama. So the question is, who can stand up to the house republicans better? The answer is certainly not McCain as his prank this week showed.

Posted by: bevjims1 | September 26, 2008 2:53 PM

"It appears that the point missed in this whole issue is that the Democrats do not need the Republicans in order to pass the bail out."
Maybe you should tell that to McSame, LOL.

Posted by: ccatmoon | September 26, 2008 2:33 PM
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Look, the Democrats will be in charge of the Executive and Legistlative side of our government after November,,,what they don't want is the NEOCON FAMILY VALUE THUGS saying they created the problem. That and the fact that most of us don't want to bail out WALL STREET makes for a "CONUNDRUM"! The easiest way is to do nothing,,,that would have been a great answer to BUSH's "IRAQ IS GOING TO BOMB US TO HADES" unless you give me full control. Let WALL STREET die,,,let the lenders and borrowers die,,PRUNNING WORKS!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 2:50 PM

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 2:52 PM

What is the rush to give away $700 Billion? We need to take 30 days to allow the weak to fail. Everything will look differently in a month. Who really cares of this Country takes a 30 day break? It took 20 years to get into this mess... what could 30 more day really harm?

Sorry, I do not believe any elected officials anymore. Any elected official who supports rushing into this "Bailout" needs to be voted out. And from the people who I talk to, that is likely to happen...

Posted by: mlimberg | September 26, 2008 2:46 PM

Well, the scam continues and too many Americans have been taken. McCain and his crew continue to scam us. There is no doubt that the Repubs and Dems were close to a deal until the Repubs decided that they needed to bail out their candidate more than to bail out the country. I guess that it is candidate before party before country.

The GOP (Republican) brand has to hit rock bottom soon. Hopefully, the really deep pockets in the RNC will bail out the party.

Actually, it seems that the Repubs are getting bailed out again with this latest Wall Street fiasco. It is time to bury "trickle down." It is time to stand up for the old-fashioned "pay as you go."

Posted by: EarlC | September 26, 2008 2:42 PM

It appears that the point missed in this whole issue is that the Democrats do not need the Republicans in order to pass the bail out. They have the majority and they know Bush will not veto it. If it is such a great deal and so important for our country, then why don't the Democrats pass it and take all of the credit that goes with it.

Posted by: john98 | September 26, 2008 2:30 PM

You are factually correct but this is a crossroad in our nation and we need a consensus on this issue and not just a political solution. It would be best if we had a majority of both parties on board.

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 2:41 PM

A life-long Democrat....NO BAIL OUT! NO BAIL OUT without something of an equity position for EVERY TAXPAYER. Why does te little guy have to suffer for 10 years for his bankruptcy when wall street goes SCOTT FREE???? NO BAIL OUT

Posted by: nnlake | September 26, 2008 2:41 PM

kban495 - boy they have you trained well. I have never seen someone jump to the wrong conclusion so quickly. Tell me again how the Dem's are going to unite the nation.

The reason they objected to it was because it didn't go far enough in explaining how it would be decided as to who gets helped and who doesn't.

This bailout is supposed to be about bailing out the economy while protecting tax payers. These repuiblicans are representing people like me. They are not going to support a bill that gives free houses to those that cannot afford them...simply because they got in over their heads on a mortgage they could not afford.

It's one thing to help someone that got caught up in a sub-prime loan with a high ARM, with the expectations of being able to refinance later at a lower rate. Only when it came time to refinance...real estate values had dropped and with having paid minimal down...they didn't have the needed equity in which to be able to refinance. Now the increases in the ARM are pricing them out of their home.

The republicans want those people saved from foreclosure because with a lower rate of interest they will be able to make their mortgage payment.

But simply because someone was wrongly enabled to purchase a house they can't afford at any interest rate...doesn't mean they should get to keep it. This kind of clarity and oversight needs to be spelled out in the bill or it won't fly with these republicans.

Posted by: dwj2215 | September 26, 2008 2:39 PM

Posted by: DwightHCollins | September 26, 2008 2:18 PM

Well I hope your assets are well protected because if you opinion prevails they will need protection. Dwight, I thought discussion was possible, I was wrong.

Your opinion may be right but I am positive you do not understand the risk you are taking unless you are unemployable with no meaning assets.

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 2:37 PM

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 12:01 PM
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Mark, you must work for the "McNoShame" campaign or your a blind parrot that pops off only what he is told!

America knows "McNoShame" is a bumbling idiot, he has sold his soul to Satans' minions Bush/Cheney/Rove/Phil Gramm/Lindsay Graham amongst many many others of the Grand Oil Party (GOP)and the "Illuminati".

*http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/sheeple_analyst/Bush_Liars_Club_By-Laws_and_Bulloney.htm

* http://www.rense.com/general30/illuminatidefector.htm

* http://www.illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm#3

So tell us,Mark in Austin, where did you get your precise information from, any of the above?

Posted by: corrupt_goverment | September 26, 2008 2:36 PM

Posted by: harried
"What McCain did is truely dispicable! He . . smiled his cancer smile..."
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What a crawling infestation you are you gutless little creep. You ingrate, you're lower than pond scum.

Posted by: jd-winterbottom |
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Me? Look pal...Jd-Winterbottom,,,I'm not gratefull,,,SLAVES are gratefull,,and with a surname like WINTERBOTTOM I would be cautious about calling me "A LITTLE CREEP"!
Take your Mother's Winterbottom to town and see how much the sailors will pay for entry!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 2:36 PM

"It appears that the point missed in this whole issue is that the Democrats do not need the Republicans in order to pass the bail out."

Maybe you should tell that to McSame, LOL.

Posted by: ccatmoon | September 26, 2008 2:33 PM

It appears that the point missed in this whole issue is that the Democrats do not need the Republicans in order to pass the bail out. They have the majority and they know Bush will not veto it. If it is such a great deal and so important for our country, then why don't the Democrats pass it and take all of the credit that goes with it.

Posted by: john98 | September 26, 2008 2:30 PM

LOL...McSame lost his latest gamble and was exposed as the reactionary, grandstanding, opportunist he is.

And Obama looks like a thoughtful, rational leader who knows how to handle a crisis without whipping everyone up into a panicked frenzy.

I know who I'd rather have for president.

Posted by: ccatmoon | September 26, 2008 2:29 PM

Posted by: harried
"What McCain did is truely dispicable! He . . smiled his cancer smile..."
________________________________________

What a crawling infestation you are you gutless little creep. You ingrate, you're lower than pond scum.

Posted by: jd-winterbottom | September 26, 2008 2:27 PM

"from what I heard, the meeting went into caos the minute obama opened his mouth...
and you bozo's want this bozo as president...you are all nuts...
Posted by: DwightHCollins
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GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE HOLE, THE SOUNDS YOU HEAR ARE YOU BOWELS DISCHARGING FUTID GAS!!

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 2:26 PM

A patriot is one who puts country over personal interest and winning an election. The writer of of the statement I will refer to sees these events with the crisis in the financial markets as all part of campaign politics. His statement seems to belie the statement of John McCain that it was country first.

I can not speak for John McCain and I certainly hope this author does not as well.

Posted by: dwj2215 | September 26, 2008 1:57 PM |

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 2:23 PM

"There was a tentative deal, announced by congressional leaders, when McCain landed in Washington. Hours later, there was chaos and recriminations."

What a load of Balz. Hey Dan, You are simply lying. There was no deal.

This is 100% unadulterated crapolla. Here's a quote from yesterday's leading article in the Washington Post from the republican leader in the House made before McCain even got there:

"However, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), gathering his GOP colleagues in a private huddle for a third straight morning, declared that there was no bipartisan compromise."

"There is no deal," Boehner said, according to participants in the meeting."

No, there was no agreement in principle or otherwise.

The Dems may have said there was, and the Post article headline may have said there was a deal, but that assertion was FLATLY contradicted by the republican leader in the House, in the same friggin' article!

Let me ask you seriously Dan, what is it about the statement by the repug leadership that there was no deal that you don't understand? No, do tell us.

Sonny, I can say without fear of contradiction that you are a lying sack of horse manure.

Posted by: jd-winterbottom | September 26, 2008 2:21 PM

What McCain did is truely dispicable! He went there, said nothing, smiled his cancer smile...and then his advisor, Karl Rove told him "DID NOT WORK",,let's see if you can sound and look rational tonight.

Posted by: harried | September 26, 2008 2:20 PM

"from what I heard, the meeting went into caos the minute obama opened his mouth...
and you bozo's want this bozo as president...you are all nuts...
Posted by: DwightHCollins
This is not talk radio where an insulting remark about Obama is received as manna from heaven. You are expected to reveal where you opinion arrives from or be considered a fool.
Unlike you I respect your right to disagree with me but I expect more than an hominem attack. Your candidate has frequently failed in that regard but I expect that he will be outed in the debate tonight if he resorts to that tact there.
Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse"

obama and his bozos tried to get over on the republicans and they failed...as far as I am concerned, we don't need any bailout...let the system fail...I have what I need...do you...

Posted by: DwightHCollins | September 26, 2008 2:18 PM

If the past 24-hours were supposed to be an example of McCain's ability to work with Congress, then he's proved he's incapable of bringing dissidents within his own party into line - so forget reaching across the aisle. He may actually have actually made matters worse. He should have left well enough alone and let Frank, Dodd and Shelby work it out with both houses, but no, McCain made another one of his reckless decisions (like his choice of Palin)and flies back to Washington' and threatens to be a no show at the first debate.

The question we voters need to ask ourselves between now and Election Day is - do we really want someone this reckless in the White House when we are living in a world that is both complex and dangerous. Whether you think he's a 'regular guy' or not, I think the answer has to be no.

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | September 26, 2008 2:17 PM

cmca wrote: "Idon't know what it is but I'm starting to like McCain"

That's a common syndrome, people who have no idea what is going on liking McCain.

Posted by: nodebris | September 26, 2008 2:16 PM

tim591 wrote: "Sen. Obama and the Democrats want to give 700 billion of taxpayers money and they wanted the Republicans opposed to this to give them political cover."

If you are too ignorant to be aware that it was the Bush Administration that demanded the 700 billion, claiming an imminent national emergency, then no one can take you very seriously.

And shouldn't the Democrats be concerned that the Republican congressional delegation won't vote for the emergency plan of their own Republican administration? How can Democrats be expected to support a Republican plan that the Republicans themselves won't support?

Posted by: nodebris | September 26, 2008 2:14 PM

The Dems are in total control and have enough votes without McCain. There is more going on then they are letting on. Idon't know what it is but I'm starting to like McCain

Posted by: cmca | September 26, 2008 2:11 PM

from what I heard, the meeting went into caos the minute obama opened his mouth...
and you bozo's want this bozo as president...you are all nuts...

Posted by: DwightHCollins

This is not talk radio where an insulting remark about Obama is received as manna from heaven. You are expected to reveal where you opinion arrives from or be considered a fool.
Unlike you I respect your right to disagree with me but I expect more than an hominem attack. Your candidate has frequently failed in that regard but I expect that he will be outed in the debate tonight if he resorts to that tact there.

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 2:11 PM

Why blame sen. McCain and Republicans if talks are stalled? Sen. Obama and the Democrats want to give 700 billion of taxpayers money and they wanted the Republicans opposed to this to give them political cover.Now they are blaming Sen. McCain for the failure of the Bailout scheme which they have no guts to pass on their own.

If they really believe this is a judicious thing to do they should go ahead and pass the bill over the objections of the Republicans.THEY GOT THE VOTES and can do so without any Republican help.

Who is now injecting politics to this crisis? All those fawning media hacks favoring Obama should give a little credit to Sen. McCain for trying to resolve this crisis.

Posted by: tim591 | September 26, 2008
12:34 PM
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Tim591, you must be working with Rove and Phil Gramm because what you posted sure is blind talking or PARROTING, which people that think like them are WAYYYY out of touch with the TRUTH.

These other atrocities that Republicans Grand Oil Party (GOP) have committed to Americans and the rest of the world are the problem, NO REGULATIONS (John McCain's history speaks for itself).

If you are so wise, why don't the Republicans want transparency to who gets the bailout money and what it is being used for? As for me and other intelligent Americans feel the same way the ALL the Democrats do and some kosher Conservatives,
I want to know what is going on with my money!

I say, remove all liquid assets from every single President and CEO as well as the executives of these failed companies and put it toward the bail out funds, their mess they clean it up. Reduce the salary cap of the above to MAX at $300K starting with the President and CEO's, NO bonuses/perks/or "Golden Parachute" of any kind.

Of course we hear some of these McCain pro bloggers that are doing what they best and blame or lie their way out of this, but, Heir Karl Rove is on his way out too.

Distribute $700 Billion to the American people up to age 18, I guarantee our economy will be lifted and let those bums that drove their companies down by incompetence SINK with the ship or piece them off for a profit like Michael Douglas did in "Wall Street".

Posted by: corrupt_goverment | September 26, 2008 2:07 PM

Wait, I thought McCain said it would be unpatriotic to hold the debate while the bailout is unresolved?

It seems like McCain's definition of patriotic is "what ever I do," and unpatriotic is "whatever I do not do."

Posted by: nodebris | September 26, 2008 2:07 PM

My vote goes to dwj2215.

dwj2215, a blog is in order.

Posted by: JAH3 | September 26, 2008 2:05 PM

What's all the fuss about? We have both a president and vice-president so that those in executive positions can multi-task. If Senator McCain is concerned about putting his mark on the economic bail out plan he should be able to participate while delegating to his duly appointed vice-preidential candidate the opportunity to represent him in the debate. After all, he has said she is just as ready as he is to be president. So....let Gov Palin do the debating with Senator Obama. She should do well since she can see Russia from her house in Alaska. Senator Obama is disadvantaged in foreign policy since he can see not see Russia from Indiana.

Posted by: rgn1 | September 26, 2008 2:02 PM

from what I heard, the meeting went into caos the minute obama opened his mouth...
and you bozo's want this bozo as president...you are all nuts...

Posted by: DwightHCollins | September 26, 2008 1:37 PM

Oh please inform all of us from where you "heard" this? I've read quite a few articles about the meeting and I didn't hear anything even remotely like that. Don't you Righties know that when you make unsubstantiated statments that are at odds with the truth, you completely undermine your position and your candidate.

Posted by: NMModerate1 | September 26, 2008 1:59 PM

So, Remember, how until today 11 am ET, McCain was not going to Debate until the deal went through? Well, if you needed more proof of this blatant political stunt, McCain campaign has web ads out saying he has won the Debate...BEFORE the debate has even happened.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_wins_debate.html


Look at this pic:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/images/26Sep_Friday_WSJ.JPG


So:


1.) McCain planned to attend the Debate all along.

2.) McCain pulled his stunt not only for Political Reasons but because his Campaign was going to the crapper.

3.) He took the MSM narrative away form the dreadful Palin-Couric interview and from the ties of Rick Davis (his campaign manager) to Fennie and Freddie Mac.

4.) The Campaign is already ready with Ads to say that McCain won the debate, before the debate happens, because their need to lie to the American people has not died down.

5.) McCain put cold water over the Bailout Deal because if the deal had passed, more people would have been interested in the debate, now there is a good chance people will be interested more in what is going on with the deal.


This is what the McCain campaign wanted to pull attention away from....Palin:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia26-2008sep26,0,3542588.story
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Posted by: DrainYou | September 26, 2008 1:59 PM

AS I SEE IT...

The dems tried to push through a partisan solution in which Obama was involved. Once it was signed they would have credited Obama's "behind the scene" involvement for it's passage. This approach would have blind sided McCain and prevented any accusation of grandstanding during the process by any republicans.

This news would have came on the heels of a poor "foreign policy" performance at the debate by Obama. So the poor performance on foreign policy would be swamped out by news of Obama's great stealth diplomacy on the most important economic bill in our history. Setting him up to be heralded by the media all the way up until the last debate, which is on the economy.

But first they needed McCain on record as supporting the bill. That is why Obama called McCain requesting a joint statement. McCain didn't return Obama's call for several hours while he thought about Obama's motive for such a statement.

He remembered that Harry Reid, just the day before, had also been quick to imply to the media that McCain was on board with the plan when McCain had never said that. You see, McCain having not been involved with Obama and the democrats when they crafted the bill, simply had no idea as to what the bill actually said. So he stared calling around and found that many of his colleagues had no idea either.

Knowing something was up, McCain decided he would go up and find out for himself. So he called up Obama and agreed to a joint statement of sorts, but invited Obama to come back to Washington and actually work in a bipartisan manner to walk the bill through. He knew from Obama's reluctance he wouldn't agree to go back to Washington in a timely manner, so he announced to the media that he would.

The first thing Obama did after the phone call was to call Reid and have him tell McCain his help wasn't wanted or needed. Anyone else notice within minutes of each others statements how the both Obama and Reid used almost identical wording when they said American could best be served by continuing with the debates?

How would Reid have known what Obama's position would have been on postponing the debate...if it had not in fact already discussed it with Obama?

McCain is determined to come back to Washington..so now what? Well, here comes plan "B"...make McCain irrelevant, and if that doesn't work then discredit and blame him...you know the dem's typical plan "B".

So they start by announcing that a tentative bill has already been hammered out...even to the point of making it sound like a done deal...also pointing out it didn't take McCain's involvement. The dems knew there was a very real chance the republican members of the house, would not simply rubber stamp their bill. But they figured if they were to object and hold up the bill...they would just blame it on McCain's meddling.

Well we will shortly see, a more widely supported bill that will occur not because of Obama's behind the scene involvement, but rather because of McCain's "get it done" style.

What now...maybe McCain won't show up for the debate...right? Wrong...not only will he show up, but he has devastated Obama and the democrats plan...so not only will McCain clean his clock at the debate...he has taken some of the wind out of Obama's image of being better on the economy...after all it's just words.

You know...you democrats play a good political game and certainly deserve the silver for your efforts...but it's the republicans that own the gold.

Posted by: dwj2215 | September 26, 2008 1:57 PM

The debate hasn't happened yet, and we won't know if McCain will show until the curtain rises.

Maybe he'll decide to go moose hunting with Sarah instead. Or fly to Galveston to solve the cleanup problems. Or go to Georgia and support democracy. Or do the Leno show. Or fire someone for something. Or . . . who knows?

If McCain becomes President, it will not be boring, anyway.

Posted by: guitar1 | September 26, 2008 1:56 PM

To ensure that we do not socialize the losses and Salaries of the CEOs - Bail out must be subject to:

1. CEOs must NOT be paid more than the Salary of the President of USA, which I believe is around 200K per annum.

2. The rest of their remuneration will be considered their contribution to the Bail out and will be paid out if they can utilize the Bail out without loosing Tax Payers Money.

3. Their rest of the remuneration - can be paid out as a % of recovery of the respective corporation.

4. TAX Payers will OWN the Equity of the respective corporation in the pro-rated amount of the Tax they pay into the system.
Let's say an average of their last 10 years Tax Paid.

For example - Let's say the average tax collected by IRS between 1998-2008 is 10 Billion

And so the formula of ownership may be:

% of Ownership = Tax Paid by the Tax Payer / Average Annual Tax.

Or similar formula.

5. This equity can be bought back by respective corporation which gets Bailed out in the form of a stock Buy back program.

Please consider these suggestions in its related shape and forms. Idea was to present that there are clearer methods to provide a Bail out without "Rewarding a bad behavior or Promoting it".

Posted by: ThinkSolution | September 26, 2008 1:55 PM

ok like i said yesterday the plan got spoiled and mcsame went to washington and looked like a fool and you could see the expression on his face sitting there like i hope this work. that's when all hell broke a lose in the room where he was suppose to save the day and he left looking like he was looking with them stiff robotic arms, that was truely a dry run he did not accomplish any thing because it was design to make him look like a leader. when we all know who the real leader is and that is obama ok look at what john macsame has followed obama on the change slogan,obama came out with four plans for the economy and not even a hour later mcsame came out with five which i was looking for him to do just that. it have been a number of things that mcsame has followed barack on just watch and see you see when you a nature born leader like barack you can't duplicate it or imitate the name speaks for it self it mean blessed by god and god is still blessing. but you can fack it like mcsame has. VOTE OBAMA '08

Posted by: obama1 | September 26, 2008 1:54 PM

"Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Friday morning that he raised objections to the tentative agreement during the lunch, particularly one element of it having to do with assistance for homeowners."

---------Okay...I stopped reading when I got to this paragraph. Is it really saying that McCain is opposed to including assistance for homeowners????

Am I reading is that these guys (investment banks, stockholders) are worth bailing out...but the homeowners are not...even though both groups used poor judgement?

Anyone? Am I reading this correctly???

Posted by: kban495 | September 26, 2008 1:52 PM

It's BUSH AND MCCAIN'S REPUBLICAN policies of deregulation that got us into this mess!!!

The democrats are begrudgingly trying to help find a solution, and are rightfully angry.

THIS ECONOMIC MESS, BROUGHT TO YOU BY REPUBLICANS.

Don't try to blame the dems now, for having to sign off on a bill nobody wants. They are just trying to be grown ups, and keep us all from losing our jobs, insurance, houses, etc.

It's not as though the dems are happy about any of this.


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Posted by: julieds | September 26, 2008 1:50 PM

Who is John McCain?

Tonya Harding.

John McCain is Tonya Harding.

"I can't go to the debate-- look! My laces broke!"

Yes, Senator, your laces have broken. You secured your footing in domestic policy with the theory that deregulation and tax breaks to the wealthy would sustain and nurture the country's economy. Lo and behold, the theory has snapped like a cheap shoelace. I'm just as disappointed and surprized as you are!

And those bad boys on Wall Street!Those "Galloolies", if you will-- I know you really didn't know they were capable of such greed and violence towards the innocent! It's like they took an iron bar and started whacking at the kneecaps of Lady Liberty. Yes, you have been supported by those Galloolies and you've shown them love in the past, but you really knew nothing about this whole mess they've made.

But don't worry. America is strong. Americans have elected their best and brightest to Congress-- these people could have been making much more money on Wall Street (I mean, WOW!) but out of public service and a belief that they can make the country great for their fellow Americans, I am confident that they will come together to make sure that this gets fixed up. That the next time a Galloolie comes running up on Lady Liberty, she'll at least have some notice to plant a strong kick in the tuckus on the goon.

Now I know you want to stay in Washington to help fix the mess. You feel responsible. That's understandible.

But if you just can't find it in yourself to relace those skates and get out there and campaign again like the great presidential candidate you most certainly are, maybe you can hand off your skates to Gov. Palin. Let her get into that debate. When you are President, she will need to fill in for you repeatedly in this crazy, topsy-turvey world, and America needs to know that if you are unavailable, Vice President Palin will be strong, secure and savvy to protect America and America's allies. The debate tonight will mostly be about foriegn policy-- an area that America is most hesitant regarding Gov. Palin, so this will be a perfect opportunity for her to really shine in that area of uncertainty.

Anyway, I hear the music starting and the Zamboni has cleared the ice. America awaits . . . .


Posted by: captiolhillmom | September 26, 2008 1:50 PM

It worked for devout and mostly undevout christians for two thousand years, God this, God that. And it works today: that is, appeal to society's most primitive instincts & promise of a savior, a "maverick" like John Wayne (a republican?).

McCain/Palin vociferate coast to coast ad nauseum ... "country, my country first" in every sound bite, then in the second sound bite holding hand over heart, swear devoutly that God upstairs is on our American side. With this combination of blinding religiosity & über-nationalism an elderly politician rises from the economic ruines of America's crisis.

Yet, how many times have we witnessed such political "success" by these self-proclaimed saviors, these "mavericks" historically?

If America wants an over-the-hill, filthy-rich "maverick" for its next Prez & a self-glorifying, weird, non-thinker for VP and/or perhaps its replacement Prez after McCain's demise, then, even the classical gods won't help us - as someone promises on our one cent coins.

Primitive instincts, emotional appeals to religion & our own home-grown American nationalism will simply accelerate to usher in the already looming economic debacle - "not with a bang, but with a whimper" as T.S. Eliot warned in "The Hollow Men".

And when it & our economic future, our savings, our children's future all go down the republican drain, proud republican Palin from Wasilla will succinctly explain to Couric what happened - in her special way, of course.

Posted by: hchiba | September 26, 2008 1:50 PM

What academics think is not as important to you and I as what the market thinks. Today Washington Mutual avoided bankruptcy by being bought out and the municipal bond market was in turmoil. The bond trading desk at my brokerage said that there was more confusion today then there was last week. Things will be fine if an agreement is reached and if the parties bargain in good faith. What the House Republicans and John McCain did was unfortunate because nerves on Wall Street are frayed and we do not want to risk further market panic. T

The opinions of these academics mean less to our 401K's and our pensions and annuities than what these market traders think. So if they see calmness in Washington like there was before McCain came to Washington then panic will not occur on Wall street. But do not conclude that everything is calm because the stock market is not plunging. It is the bond market where the trouble lies and part of it was edgy today.

Academics do not understand markets and markets are saying this is urgent. I would be careful how much trust I would put in academics. They know what is in their specialty but it is the judgement of the market in the end that will determine our financial future and not these academics.

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 26, 2008 1:50 PM

Anyone notice that McCain always has a sitter with him - usually Cindy, Lieberman, or Lindsey Graham?

Let’s see the results of those neuropsychological tests. McCain seems to have some serious deficits.

Posted by: bamccampbell | September 26, 2008 1:47 PM

McCain is reckless, and way too impulsive. Does he ever think before he acts?

McCain's crazy looking antics are scarier than Bush.

Can you imagine if McCain were president? In a crisis, he'd either push "the red button" without thinking first, or he'd try to call "time out" and run and hide.


McCain is erratic, reckless, and dishonest.

McCain used to have the respect of all Americans.

Now we see he has changed.
He is an unstable, erratic, and dishonorable man.


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Posted by: julieds | September 26, 2008 1:46 PM

McCain is floundering.

He went to Washington and pretended to be relevant. His mind was blank because he didn't have a clue. His contribution was nil.

All he did was posture. His credibility is based on spin and it is unravelling his campaign.

Posted by: robertjames1 | September 26, 2008 1:42 PM

While the Democrats are crying "OBSTRUCTIONISM" in the Paulson/Bernanke/Bush Wall Street Bailout plan... the Republicans are simply working to offer an alternative solution which protects the Taxpayer and does not institute a socialization of the markets.

Let's remember... the Dems HAVE ENOUGH VOTES to pass Paulson's plan all by themselves without a single Republican vote. I DARE them to do it! Of course they won't do it by themselves, because it's a BAD PLAN... so they want BiPartisan support for it!

A corollary to Murphy's Law states, "If two or more individuals have a hand in a problem, the blame will never be placed." The Dems are counting on this to allow them to pass this socialistic takeover of the financial sector, without taking the blame for it.

But the Republicans are saying, "If you want it... take it", but the Republicans hands are clean. "You buy it... you OWN it."

Posted by: edeldoug | September 26, 2008 1:42 PM

While the Democrats are crying "OBSTRUCTIONISM" in the Paulson/Bernanke/Bush Wall Street Bailout plan... the Republicans are simply working to offer an alternative solution which protects the Taxpayer and does not institute a socialization of the markets.

Let's remember... the Dems HAVE ENOUGH VOTES to pass Paulson's plan all by themselves without a single Republican vote. I DARE them to do it! Of course they won't do it by themselves, because it's a BAD PLAN... so they want BiPartisan support for it!

A corollary to Murphy's Law states, "If two or more individuals have a hand in a problem, the blame will never be placed." The Dems are counting on this to allow them to pass this socialistic takeover of the financial sector, without taking the blame for it.

But the Republicans are saying, "If you want it... take it", but the Republicans hands are clean. "You buy it... you OWN it."

Posted by: edeldoug | September 26, 2008 1:41 PM

An excellent letter to the editor from A. Becker in the 9/26 StarTribune (Minneapolis, MN) newspaper, as follows, says it all and excellently: "In 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln and George McClellan continued their campaigns for the presidency, even as Confederate troops approached to within six miles of the Capitol and Sherman captured Atlanta. In 1944, in the midst of WW II, Franklin Roosevelt and Thomas Dewey continued their campaigns while France was liberated and Allied troops fought their way to the Siegfried Line.
In those times of national emergency, campaigns were not suspended. Lincoln, McClellan, Roosevelt and Dewey knew that this nation needed its democratic processes to move forward in good times and bad. In this current economic crisis, we need the candidates to continue to campaign, to continue to speak to the issues. Suspending a presidential campaign to confer on a Wall Street bailout is a repudiation of the processes that have made this nation great."

Posted by: jeanbrandt | September 26, 2008 1:40 PM

"What an idiot. This was Paulson's plan, retard...."
Posted by: VeloStrummer | September 26, 2008 1:01 PM |

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Paulson has been TreasSec for what, 2 years now? And where was he before that? Running one of the d*mn companies (Goldman Sachs) that is part of the problem -- it was allowed to convert to a "regular bank" this week in order to save its butt.

In that role, Paulson was one of the people that got us into this mess originally. You now trust HIM to fix it ?? And it is surely no unbiased plan -- Paulson has way too many dogs in this race for him to be unbiased (as do Dodd and Frank)

Posted by: govtDr | September 26, 2008 1:39 PM

Three things you need to remember:
McCain was a pilot who crashed two planes learning to fly.
McCain is now an old man who can't multi-task.
McCain makes impetuous decisions under stress apparently with little consideration of the side effects.
If he is the man who becomes president by any hook or crook.....hang on tight boys and girls..... this country hasn't seen anything yet!!!

Posted by: Thependulumswings | September 26, 2008 1:37 PM

from what I heard, the meeting went into caos the minute obama opened his mouth...
and you bozo's want this bozo as president...you are all nuts...

Posted by: DwightHCollins | September 26, 2008 1:37 PM

George F Will.."McCain has lost his head"

If anybody finds it can you PUNT it to Mississippi please?


(Today) Thank you someone for punting.

Posted by: MILLER123 | September 26, 2008 1:36 PM

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-and-bushs-kabuki-theatre-mccain.html

Thursday, September 25, 2008
Credit Where Credit Isn't Due: McCain and Bush's Kabuki Theatre

Now we know why McCain hired the Bush contingent.

It emerged in the White House briefing today that McCain called Bush and asked him to initiate a meeting today at 4 pm at the White House, putatively for him to "deal with" the crisis.

That is, McCain asked Bush to help him create an trifecta: To try to lend some credence to McCain's desperate assertion that a suspension of his campaign is necessary, in effect either avoiding a debate in which he would face critical questions about his stance on the economy or marching in claiming "victory"; attempting to co opt the financial crisis thereby trying to put an end to his plummeting in the polls created by his flailing positions on the economy--perhaps best reflected by his statement days ago that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong"; and also perhaps buying more time for Sarah Palin after her embarrassing photo op at the UN yesterday, by moving her debate forward as well.

Here's how it happened, according to Q and A at the WHB:

McCain emailed Bush asking for the 4 P.M. meeting. Now, one reasonably might ask, why is today such a necessity for McCain, if his interest is solely the national good?

Because it is before the debate. McCain hopes to stage a meeting at the White House, thereby, with Bush's cooperation, lending plausibility to his claim to need to suspend his campaign. Then, if Republicans, in their own electoral interest, can be persuaded to come to agreement, before the debate, he would claim--in an act of utter stage management--to have "resolved" the crisis. Thereby hoping to take the heat off on his past careening stances and sliding polls and staunch the bleeding on the polls--before the debate.

This is Kabuki Theatre masquerading as substance--no different than what we saw at the U.N. yesterday.

It is utterly stage managed, utterly cynical, and utterly unrelated to the substantive deliberation necessary to actually resolve these matters on the merits and for our nation's future, rather than for short-term and desperate political advantage.

These occurrences are equally important for what they indicate about McCain's governing style as they are for their impact upon democratic process: impulsive acts that rely on drama and theatrical posture rather than substantive reasoning and long-term deliberation; a strong willingness to sacrifice substantive reasoning, deliberative process, and even prior structures and agreements to immediate political need; an attempt to reach outcomes through last minute stage management rather than substantive argument.

These should create deep concern for anyone who wishes for a change in governmental process from the past eight years.

We have an economy, rather than a campaign, to rescue. Putting nation before politics means putting all attempts to resolve it before political attempts to co opt it--and to move towards one's commitments, rather than towards a more immediate and short-term salvation.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-and-bushs-kabuki-theatre-mccain.html

Posted by: caraprado1 | September 26, 2008 1:32 PM

the weirdest part of this is that McCain isn't actually backing the alternative plan, or opposing the Paulson plan with the compromises the dems insisted on. in fact, he hasn't said much of anything. in all likelihood, the deal he messed up will get put back together, and McCain will try to take credit for some taxpayer/homeowner protection that was going to be in there anyway at the dems insistence. or the house repubs will actually kill the deal, and McCain will somehow manage to claim that dems were to blame for not protecting taxpayers and homeowners.

when you lose your conscience altogether, you can really start to make stuff up with abandon. that's what we are seeing. the gall to claim after two days of stunts and grandstanding, that Obama was the one posturing with a simple statement of support for the compromise, is enough to make one sick.

and campaign spokespeople are actually claiming to be proud of Palin's interview where she claims that Putin's plane flying 8 miles up in Alaskan airspace when he visits the US is foreign policy experience. what a joke she has become. and having her pastor pray to protect her from witchcraft. someone pray to protect us from her, please.

Posted by: JoeT1 | September 26, 2008 1:31 PM

"hoping to set politics aside..." LOL

So glad Mr. "economy is not my forte" is now out of the room after forcing his all-politics, bull-in-the-china-shop "help". His presence in these meetings has been, at best, useless and, worst, almost potentially destructive. Take away all sharp objects, attach oxygen and keep this maniac's hands off our country, first.

As Mr. Will put so well this week, it's Obama's readiness v. - worse - McCain's suitability. With the pinball-like reactions of McManic since last week's "foundations of the economy are sound" now even the readiness question has been answered against him.

Posted by: thinkresults | September 26, 2008 1:31 PM

McCain straight talkin' about his motivation to put country first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKwTL8SwbI

Posted by: tensity1 | September 26, 2008 1:30 PM

After all McCain has been a Washington (Capital Hill) tenant for decades and that makes him think he can armtwist the rest! For Mr. McCain it's too late and hopefully the cheap gimmick of putting the country first can remind him of a man pandaring!
Nevertheless the man doesn't understand the economy in his on perspective (claims) but he wants to show leadership- what kind of leadership when he has repeatedly claimed that the fundermentals of the economy are intact! Well, I think electing Mr. McCain is making a fundermental mistake and it may need some trillions of $$ to rescue the country - alternatively mr. McCain's war like mind might dismantle the USA for ever almost like dropping a bomb on civillians!

Posted by: sammyjosephat | September 26, 2008 1:30 PM

"FOR CH**T'S SAKE - IT'S ANOTHER WARTHOG FROM DUMBYA! WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE THAN JUST PRETTY-IT-UP AND APPOVE IT!"


Impeach what ? This rewrite of history you've posted here ?

McCain by his own admission said he supported Bush 90 % of the time.

And in this particular case, McCain has brought NOTHING to the table. Other than a desire to grand stand.

Bein a "maverick" (some of his colleagues would use another term referring to one's posterior) is not necessarily what a large number of Americans want in a President.

McCain had better hit a home run tonight in this debate and get his VP thinking and speaking coherently, or he's going to get creamed on November 4th.

Posted by: mathas | September 26, 2008 1:29 PM

One word to describe McCain's behavior in this increasingly bizarre campaign: erratic.

Clearly he's not the steady hand we want on the tiller to steer us through rough economic times.

Posted by: bradk1 | September 26, 2008 1:29 PM

Three things you need to remember:
McCain was a pilot who crashed two planes learning to fly.

As an Obama supporter I think its best if we stick to the truth. The two planes he was flying had engine failures and were ruled by the investigative boards to have nothing to do with his efforts.

You can find fault with many more things that are true.

Posted by: patrick10 | September 26, 2008 1:27 PM

Tough week for McCain and Palin--and that may continue tonight. The so-called campaign suspension that wasn't and Palin's meltdown with Couric seem harbingers of a total unraveling of their campaign.
Ironically, his interference in the bailout discussion may, in the end have an unintentionally good effect in gaining more oversight and even better treatment for mortgagees, all points that have been sought by Democrats.
Nonetheless, I sense the wheels are coming off his "Express," and it's getting less pretty all the time. Move over Kyle Busch; John needs your pit box.

Posted by: bulldog6 | September 26, 2008 1:26 PM

I think this stupid move of his (McCain) will cost him dearly. It's done more damage, in Washington, and his campaign, than good.

Posted by: Brooklyn81 | September 26, 2008 1:25 PM

Well you certainly can tell the Palin-McCain campaign is no longer "suspended". The trolls are back out from under the bridge.

Mind you I don't much care for trolls no matter the party affiliation.

Posted by: wes1155 | September 26, 2008 1:23 PM

McCain is a two bit thug LIAR!


I guess we also have an answer as to how seriously we should take McCain's claims of having "suspended his campaign." As in not releasing ads. Or pushing spin. No, that's the stuff of campaigning. And we all know that whatever McCain is doing right now, it's certainly not campaigning.


To be fair, though, I suppose you could grant that McCain has in fact suspended his campaign. So what has happened is probably totally unprecedented:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/muzikal203/McBush/26Sep_Friday_WSJ.jpg


The vacuum created by McCain's absent campaign has actually sucked in campaign commercials from the future, so that we see them now!

Posted by: DrainYou | September 26, 2008 1:23 PM

Three things you need to remember:
McCain was a pilot who crashed two planes learning to fly.
McCain is now an old man who can't multi-task.
McCain makes impetuous decisions under stress apparently with little consideration of the side effects.
If he is the man who becomes president by any hook or crook.....hang on tight boys and girls..... this country hasn't seen anything yet!!!

Posted by: Thependulumswings | September 26, 2008 1:21 PM

To LarryG621

To consider anything in the Senate takes 60 votes to get a vote. With Lieberman the Dems have 51.

The flyboy's stunt failed -- even today Sen. Graham says he doesn't know what McCain's position is -- is that leadership or waiting to claim credit for anything that passes, saying he was for it all along?

Posted by: grclarkdc1 | September 26, 2008 1:20 PM

For 7 1/2 years the D-crats have been saying that everything George W Bush has done is WRONG. Then dumbya comes along with the biggest, ugliest Warthog of his career - the unnecessary $700 BILLION bailout with taxpayer money.

The Congressional D-crats then rush into action. Pelosi adds some lipstick, Reid combs the fur and Barney Frank, in spite of his limp-wrist affliction, curls the tail and adds a pretty bow. And sweetie hussein, like a person that only "talks" but never "does" says: I'm just a phone call away if you need me!

Then the D-crats say, what a lovey Warthog we now have - let's all kiss it's approval and move on to something really important, like a gum-flapping debate.

Meanwhile, as most Americans revolt against this outrageous plan, one politician stands up and says, FOR CH**T'S SAKE - IT'S ANOTHER WARTHOG FROM DUMBYA! WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE THAN JUST PRETTY-IT-UP AND APPOVE IT! (Now we can all can see who really is a continuation of dumbya - and who isn't.)

As expected, the D-crats ridicule this maverick behavior. So be it. Let's hope that McCain keeps "Country First" and proceeds with major surgery on dumbya's latest and worst Wharthog.

Posted by: ImpeachNOW | September 26, 2008 1:20 PM

Another hail mary by McCain that failed.

And McCain cost himself a lot more by pissing off Letterman then he gained by dissing him.

There's a growing chorus of voices that are questioning McCain's mental state. His decision making the last two weeks has been somewhat odd, to say the least.

Posted by: mathas | September 26, 2008 1:18 PM

typical Rove playbook. grandstand, lie, whatever you think will work, then, if it blows up, you accuse the other guy of doing it, because "what do you mean, me? You're the one doing that." always sounds whiny.

McCain accuses Obama of posturing because he had the nerve to support the President's plan with the compromises at the White House meeting? how dare he do that? democrats demand taxpayer and homeowner protections be added to the Paulson plan, and suddenly that's McCain's issue? give me a break.

McCain is obviously the one who has been trying to pull a stunt for the last couple days, and has to keep changing the stunt becuase he's too irrelevant and incompetent on the bailout to even figure out what and where the game is.

Posted by: JoeT1 | September 26, 2008 1:18 PM

"TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOV'T AGENCIES
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress is being asked to rush through emergency legislation -- to cede effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis. But were lenders ORDERED to offer "easy credit" to people "targeted" by government agencies?

Is government "targeting" of American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?"


Nope. Nice try though. Warren Buffet, billionaire investor had seen this coming, tried to warn everyone, AND SUPPORTS OBAMA!!!

Try reading this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1837154020080918

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | September 26, 2008 1:16 PM

WetHog,

I sincerely doubt Palin could name any president prior to Ronald Reagen.

Posted by: wes1155 | September 26, 2008 1:11 PM

"I heard that the politicians that are the top receivers of moneys from these corrupt companies are Chris Dodds, Barrack Obama, John Kerry, and Hilary Clinton. I also heard that there is an FBI investigation that has started."


Most of Obama's contributions came from EMPLOYEES not the executives. You know, the middle-class suckers who stand to lose everything they have. Remember Enron? Who defends the little guy(s)???

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | September 26, 2008 1:11 PM

"Follow the money" from Freddie? It ends up in the hands of Rick Davis, Palin/McCain's campaign manager.

The problem is that no one's been able to explain precisely what Davis' firm did for the $1.8 million he received prior to 2006 or the $15,000 per month that the firm's been receiving between 2006 and last month.

Does the term "influence peddling" mean anything to you?

Posted by: BrooklynDemocrat | September 26, 2008 1:10 PM

Mission accomplished. John McCain has put his country first by clearly demonstrating what a pompous, hot head, hot air, self serving, no nothing, he truly is.

Posted by: maddymappo | September 26, 2008 1:08 PM

This would not of been the first time McCain has stiffled progress in washington. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 26, 2008 1:08 PM

"They don't dare stand up and say it was a Democratic Administration (Clintons) that started this whole mess anyway."

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That's just plain nonsense. I wasn't and still am not much of a Clinton admirer and I can happily say I didn't vote for him either time, but if you want to blame the Clinton administrations you need to also blame every administration since Regan at least. The republicans could have undone anything Clinton did in the six years they control both congress and the White House, but they didn't.

There is plenty of blame to go around and partisan rhetoric doesn't help solve it. You don't need a degree in economics to see this was a long time in the making and a ling time coming.

Posted by: wes1155 | September 26, 2008 1:07 PM

TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOV'T AGENCIES
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress is being asked to rush through emergency legislation -- to cede effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis. But were lenders ORDERED to offer "easy credit" to people "targeted" by government agencies?

Is government "targeting" of American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?

Consider this:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis OR
members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 26, 2008 1:07 PM

John McCaint has suddenly gotten quite concerned about the crisis on Wall Street.

Just more lies....

So much so that he has announced he’s suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington so he can work with Congress on solving the problem and he wants Obama to do the same which will mean putting off that pesky debate they were supposed to have on Friday.

The situation was so urgent in fact that McCaint called up David Letterman personally to cancel his appearance on his show so he wouldn’t waste any time tackling the problem.

Except that he apparently had time to stick around long enough to film an interview with Katie Couric, to "expalin" the pathetic interview with peeeuuu Palin whereas she fumbles and get confused on such a simple subject....and literally self destructs on CBS.....

So while McCaint was at the West 57th street CBS News Location.....at same point in time he would have been on Letterman.

Needless to say, Dave wasn’t impressed. In fact Dave had some pretty good points to make during the course of the show.

David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric.

According to Letterman, McCaint personally called him and apologized for bailing out at the last minute.

He said he was suspending his campaign to rush to Washington and help fight America’s biggest economic crisis since the great depression.

Letterman understood the urgency of this issue and said it was ok.

Boy, Was he mad when he knew that McCaint did not actually go to Washington to solve the ‘Crisis’ and fix the ‘Crater’ in the economy?

Letterman stopped his interview with Keith Olbermann midway to show a live TV feed of McCaint getting makeup for his interview with Katie Couric.

Letterman said something is terribly wrong with McCain’s campaign ..and it smells....(peeeuuu Palin anyone)and that he was just playing a political game by saying that he was suspending his campaign.

And when Dave saw McCaint with Couric having makeup applied to his cancer ridden head he yelled out and said: "Hey John, do you need a ride to the airport??????.

He felt this a political gimmick to stop his sliding poll numbers from sliding further. He repeatedly asked the same question - ‘Where is your running mate, Sarah Palin?’.

You do not suspend a campaign a month before elections, you get your second in command to run the show instead.

A total of 10 minutes was used up by Dave Letterman to shred McCain and his publicity stunt into pieces.

View David's Anger @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

After the Walter Cronkite moment of 1968 now 40 years later for McCaint on David Letterman......I don’t think McCain will be scheduling a follow-up appearance anytime soon.

Thanks Again Dave.... for showing us the truth..yet again......McCaint can't multi-task.....

Its the end of the peeeuuu Palin bubble and McCaints lies.......

"Thanks but no thanks for more of the lies that bridge America to nowhere......"

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 1:06 PM

Cant wait to watch the debates tonight., wonder if this economic stimulas package will come up. watchdebate.com You can go see all the clips of past debates at http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 26, 2008 1:06 PM

It's the "Shoot First, Aim Later" McCain doctrine.

Posted by: JRM2 | September 26, 2008 1:05 PM

I get this picture in my head of a bomb squad delicately trying to defuse a complicated time bomb - only to have McCain, when nobody asked him, voluntarily run out and jump on it with his body - only to mess up the delicate work going on - and not have it go off anyway.

The chatter among my Republican friends across the midwest and south - there seems to be a common feeling that it's the McCain campaign that is about to "crater".

Posted by: bcurtice | September 26, 2008 1:05 PM

I risk insulting one of nature's more intelligent creatures but McCain's been slipping around like a hog on ice since declaring that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong" last Monday.

His flipping, flopping and flying circus stunts suggest that he genuinely believes that we're a bunch of idiots. What's the next distracting stunt from this bunch going to be? Are we going to bomb Iran?

Posted by: BrooklynDemocrat | September 26, 2008 1:04 PM

" We are here because the DEMS. forced Freddie and Fannie to give loans to people with rotten credit"

Google "The Ownership Society" speech by President Bush, it will be very revealing for you.

Posted by: JRM2 | September 26, 2008 1:04 PM

No Cowboys, No Mavericks, No Distractions. It's the economy, stupid. Not a sitcom.

Posted by: neithernor | September 26, 2008 1:03 PM

The Dems have their fingerprints all over this, and they wanted to push something through quickly that would benefit their buddies in Fannie & Freddie at the expense of the American Taxpayer!

I heard that the politicians that are the top receivers of moneys from these corrupt companies are Chris Dodds, Barrack Obama, John Kerry, and Hilary Clinton. I also heard that there is an FBI investigation that has started.

Remember, follow the money, and you'll find what you're looking for! We need to hold people accountable!

Posted by: alohais
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What an idiot. This was Paulson's plan, retard.

As for the Republican plan? Well, they wanted to suspend the capital gains tax for two years (Cougar Cindy would have loved that!!) Plus more corporate breaks.

McCoward should adopt the campaign slogan that best describes his actions - ME FIRST, FAT CATS SECOND.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | September 26, 2008 1:01 PM

McCain's Brilliant Play: Bets Presidency on Blocking Bailout Deal

John McCain roared into Washington yesterday and reportedly broke up an agreement on the bailout deal. In doing so, he went against not only Democrats but the Republican president, the panicked Republican Treasury Secretary and Fed Chairman, and Republican Congressional leaders. Instead, he sided with a small band of outraged Republicans grousing about violation of free-market principles.

So was this idiotic McCain self-destruction, as most people are suggesting? Or was it a brilliant populist move?

We think the latter.

Americans hate the Hanke-Panke plan, which they accurately view as a bailout of the financial-services companies and executives that helped get us into this mess. Some Americans are so angry, in fact, that for now they'd rather see "this sucker go down" -- as Bush put yesterday, referring to the U.S. economy -- than support a financial-services bailout. By aligning himself with a small band of Republicans who are refusing to go along with the Hanke-Panke plan, McCain not only appears to be standing up for this outrage but is reinforcing his desired image as a maverick.

Given the ongoing crisis in the credit markets, a bailout plan will likely be struck today or Monday -- whether McCain plays ball or not. Assuming this happens, McCain will:

Take credit for brokering a compromise (assuming the final deal is palatable to Americans)
Crow that he was the candidate who tried to stand up against the bailout of Wall Street fat-cats
Note every five minutes in the next six weeks that the enormous sop to Wall Street hasn't saved anything (if the bailout works, it won't work until long after the election is over)
Blast President Bush, who everyone hates anyway, thus reinforcing his "change" message
Say he's the only guy with the balls and experience necessary to deal with this crisis.
And on the off chance that a deal doesn't go through in the next couple of days, McCain can just rail about the outrage of the Democrats' desire to bail out Wall Street at the expense of Main Street and say he's the only one standing up for the little guy.

In our opinion, this was a brilliant political play (and we're voting for Obama). If only it were likely to lead to a better bailout plan.

(What's a better bailout plan? One that injected equity into the banks -- or, better yet, converted debt to equity -- thus penalizing banks for their stupidity, not taxpayers, and actually accomplishing the desired recapitalization).

Posted by: FutureJumps | September 26, 2008 1:00 PM

I am utterly amazed at those who have posted here and are so fooled by John McCain's posturing. I am utterly amazed by those in this country who are willing to back yet another Republican who lies and lies and lies. Our country has gone to the dogs and there are those who want it to go even MORE to the dogs. I am utterly amazed at the lack of principles that American citizens have. We have become a nation of liars and gullible uninformed people. Our country has nearly been ruined, and there are those who wish to ruin it even more. Pathetic Americans. Bring back our honor!

Posted by: MeahBottoms | September 26, 2008 1:00 PM

Do the American people really want all the drama John McCain likes to generate? If I want drama I'll watch Jerry Springer or Jeraldo Rivera! After all the crises and hijinks in our government in the last 16 years I hope people will wise up and vote in the most boring candidate...........Barack Obama!! I think he can do the job and he won't be scaring the dickens out of us every other day!!!

Posted by: daisyjones | September 26, 2008 12:57 PM

The Dems have their fingerprints all over this, and they wanted to push something through quickly that would benefit their buddies in Fannie & Freddie at the expense of the American Taxpayer!

I heard that the politicians that are the top receivers of moneys from these corrupt companies are Chris Dodds, Barrack Obama, John Kerry, and Hilary Clinton. I also heard that there is an FBI investigation that has started.

Remember, follow the money, and you'll find what you're looking for! We need to hold people accountable!

Posted by: alohais | September 26, 2008 12:56 PM

Well McCain accomplished just what the Treasury thought he would when they asked him and Obama to please not get involved, he greatly reduced the chances of a resolution to the crisis. I realize that we are all justifiably suspicious of politicians, especially when a lot of money is at stake, but when Obama said that he and McCain were asked by Paulson to please stay away from the bailout plan for fear that they would make a crisis much more difficult, he did what he was asked. McCain on the other hand had just seen the pole that showed him far behind Obama (it turns out that most other poles show them to be fairly close), and felt that he had to do something to change the focus of the campaign. So he he made a grand show of suspending his campaign and canceling the debate (he finally decided he would go because too many people were upset about him missing it), and what did he accomplish? McCain going to Washington had exactly the outcome that Paulson and Obama were afraid it would, it brought Presidential politics into a crisis and may well have destroyed any chance of a resolution.

We can all argue about whether the bailout was necessary, but McCain said he was going to Washington to bring people together to make the bailout work. Well we can all see how well that leadership worked out for us. When McCain selected Palin for his VP I realised that any vestige of sanity or patriotism that McCain once had (and I have been a big fan of his for many years) had taken a distant back seat to his desire to win.

Posted by: bjuhasz | September 26, 2008 12:56 PM

The Democrats are going to blame the Republicans (or anyone available) for the "Bailout bill" not passing because they never want to take responsibility for anything. They don't dare stand up and say it was a Democratic Administration (Clintons) that started this whole mess anyway. When the Clinton administration started pushing for mortgages to be written for low-income people with bad credit the greedy banking pigs saw a chance to get rich. And so it began .... Fannie and Freddie didn't care because they knew they would be be "rescued" by the government ( or should I say the taxpayers). It's estimated that out of all the mortgages written in the US, 90 % of us have good mortgages and that there is about 10% of sub-prime mortgages. Why should the hard working people with good credit have to assume the debt of the slacker (who never should have had a mortgage anyway) and the unscrupulous lenders who wrote the mortgages. It's the great Democratic way ... and it is only a preview of what is to come under King Obama's rule.

Posted by: mythoughts02 | September 26, 2008 12:55 PM

How much money will it cost all of you to replace your "country first" bumper stickers with "campaign first" bumper stickers?

A better investment would be to get an Obama sticker instead....

Posted by: RightDownTheMiddle | September 26, 2008 12:53 PM

McCain will take the populous route in the debate tonight by opposing the bailout deal saying he protects taxpayers interests from an unpopular president and a house/senate democrats. That will be his rallying cry from now till November.

Posted by: unscum | September 26, 2008 12:53 PM

I believe that the Letterman incident hurt McCain more than has been widely recognized. Letterman was a McCain admirer and is held in high regard by his audience. The footage of McCain getting make-up applied in a NYC studio when he'd told Letterman that he needed to rush to Washington immediately to help with the crisis was pretty damning. It exposed a lie that McCain had told and showed him campaigning instead of addressing the crisis. It cast a skeptical light on everything McCain did the next day and gave corroborating evidence to the Democrats' charges of political grandstanding.

Posted by: skrut003 | September 26, 2008 12:52 PM

Dumbest political stunt ever.....

He couldn't even bother to read the 3 page (yes only 3 pages!) Paulson proposal in the first place.

What a crock!

Posted by: RightDownTheMiddle | September 26, 2008 12:51 PM

Say what you want about Palin, but I bet if asked she would of known who was actually President in 1929 and that TV wasn't invented yet. Biden needs to do more interviews. It would appear he is not to light on his feet when asked important questions.

And Biden has bad hair....

Posted by: WetHog | September 26, 2008 12:51 PM

Of all the ways yesterday could have played out, I never thought that, in the end, John McCain would almost single-handedly kill the proposal. I honestly believe that upon arriving to Washington where leaders were well on their way to getting this bailout done, John McCain organized an insurgency with John Boehner and stalled this bill so he wouldn't look useless. In fact, it appears he was worse than useless, he was downright dangerous to the process.

Posted by: ChrisDC | September 26, 2008 12:51 PM

The assertion that McCain suspended his campaign is a complete crock. This is truly a pathetic spectacle from one who aspires to the highest office in our country.

Posted by: JoeBewildered | September 26, 2008 12:50 PM

Republicans and McCain's Credit Crisis - How to take credit and shift blame - that's why he came to Washington. He says that suspending his campaign was the "patriotic" thing to do.

Yet, he has said nothing to stop Republicans from disenfranchising voters who lost homes in foreclosure or defaulted on loans. Voting is patriotic. He should stop the Predatory Politics of Republicans whose Predatory Economics caused the foreclosure crisis.

Posted by: rightway1 | September 26, 2008 12:50 PM

This just shows that McCain will do anything and say anything to get elected.
Lord have Mercy on this country if he does.

I can see him running an ad trying to take credit for this. It is what he wanted all along. Another Republican trick just like the one he pulled with Sarah Palin. That one is backfiring, this one will. Any attempts to manipulate the situation to your advantage will not suceed. Sarah Palin is proving to be an overall liability than an asset.

Go do your debate then take you self back to Washington. It won't take that long. You can bet that the negotiating will stop so that Congress can watch the debates too.

There was no need to do this. None. Just an attempt to make John Mccain look good in an area where he is weak.

And what is this business about Obama having more money McCain? I don't think so.

Obama is more in touch with the issues. Foreign Policy- Yes, lets talk about how we are going to make friends again with countries that Bush has alienated us from.

The world is watching. If God forbid we elect McCain any respect the world left for us will be gone. The rest of the world can see so clearly that we need a change. They can see McCain is not it. Look at how they get Sarah Palin experience in foreign policy by having her meet leaders at the UN? Give me a break. Why can't we see what is so obvious to the rest of the world.

America, look at the issues. Look past Obama's race. Let's elect someone that is going to bring about the change we so badly need. Barack Obama and Joseph Biden.

Don't reward the GOP with 4 more years for a disasterous 8.


Posted by: bjlopez1130 | September 26, 2008 12:50 PM

tim592 wrote:

"Why blame sen. McCain and Republicans if talks are stalled? Sen. Obama and the Democrats want to give 700 billion of taxpayers money and they wanted the Republicans opposed to this to give them political cover.Now they are blaming Sen. McCain for the failure of the Bailout scheme which they have no guts to pass on their own."

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Something to keep in mind is the foundation for this bailout plan is what the republican president asked congress to pass.

Although the house and senate democrats certainly are no angles, why should they vote for legislation which is proposed by a republican president when his own house congressional members don't support it? If the house republicans want to go back to the drawing board I'm sure the democrats would be more than happy to let them. I suppose it depends on how much one feels in what time frame something needs to be done. The administration says it must be done now. It looks to me what the democratic leaders and the the senate republican leaders are upset about is dropping the bomb in the late stages of the negotiations rather than being up front.

Frankly there are probably several ways to accomplish the same end if it is achievable to begin with. Sure every economist has their proposal and some are right and some are wrong. No one really knows since something like this really hasn't happened before on this scale. No matter what legislation ends up getting passed it is going to be a huge economics experiment.

Posted by: wes1155 | September 26, 2008 12:49 PM

The McCain ploy seems to be to harness the anger about the bailout and, since the plan was proposed by the Bush administration, to put the Bush administration, the Dems in congress, and Obama in the same group.
In other words he wants to paint Bush as a 'false republican' and, in this case, more like a Democrat. That way, he can 'ride to the rescue' like in an old John Wayne movie. It is good Republocult red meat and they will eat it up and ask for more.

Posted by: rkerg | September 26, 2008 12:49 PM

Why do you keep LYING! There was no deal, just Dodd(give me a sweetheart loan) and Schumer mugging for the cameras. The House Republicans were never on board.
Dodd and co. are the villians in this drama. We are here because the DEMS. forced Freddie and Fannie to give loans to people with rotten credit.Many of them people of COLOR. Now these sub-prime loans are biting all of us.

Posted by: beecheery | September 26, 2008 12:49 PM

Could it simply be that John McCain's best destiny may be as a great Senator? The more I see of him, the more I think this may be. As the common saying goes regarding people being promoted till they reach their own level of incompetence.....I think the Presidency would likely be that for John McCain.

Posted by: kj_finch | September 26, 2008 12:48 PM

I just heard, from reliable sources, that McCain just now, after a nap, woke up in quite a mood, less than happy about the POW's left in Vietnam.

Apparently he was just lying in his cot, mumbling a bit, and then he leapt up, rushing over to an aid, yelling..

“Get me the Googler!”

The aide brought up the Google search page on his laptop as McCain bellowed:

“Ask it about POWs in Vietnam…”

The aide typed in….. POW… Vietnam…..as McCain yipped

“What's it saying?…..no, hold on….heros….ask it about heros…."

The aide punched ‘heros’ in, and the first entry that came up was ‘Delta Force,' the movie starring Chuck Norris.

McCain looked confused, and barked...

‘What the…?”

The aide apologized, and hit “Images,” having forgotten McCain’s search preference.

In the upper left hand corner of his screen popped up the image of the poster from the movie ‘Delta Force”….

McCain, beaming, yelled..

“ Zippety Do!”

And then he looked over at Steve Schmidt, saying,

“Call Chuck goddammit! Now! Get on it my freind, there’s some leadershippin’ to do!”

At first, everybody in the room just stared at him, but after the shock wore off, and the line died down at the kool-aid dispenser, the staff got on the job with it’s usual zest.

The upshot being that McCain and Chuck Norris will be undertaking a secret rescue mission deep into Laos this weekend.

From the campaign:

"To address this national POW crisis, John will be suspending his campaign and undertaking a top secret super leadership uber-hero mission this weekend. In deference to this patriotic effort, and the fact that we must put Country first, we have of course decided to cancel the VP debate."

(for pool reporters, there are only 164 seats left on the Straight Talk Express flight to Laos, so please call Rick Davis or Carly Fiorini at 1-800-BUS-STOP)

Posted by: robertell | September 26, 2008 12:48 PM

The U.S. invasion, known as Operation Detachment, was charged with the mission of capturing the airfields on Iwo Jima.[1]

The battle was immortalized by Joe Rosenthal's photograph of the raising of the U.S. flag atop the 166 meter (546 ft) Mount Suribachi by five Marines and one Navy Corpsman... From Wikipedia

FRESH OFF THE PRESS!!!!

OPERATION DETACHMENT FAILED! No McCain Flag Planting on Hill.

Posted by: MILLER123 | September 26, 2008 12:47 PM

McCain's politics first strategy essentially torpedoed Thursday's deal. McCain complicated negotiations for everyone one involved including the president. If the deal collapses and the stock market starts to tank (say bye bye 401K and retirement funds) then McCain should bear some of the blame.

Posted by: unscum | September 26, 2008 12:45 PM

We've had an 8 year meltdown of democracy like we've never seen in our history with a Cowboy in the big seat and a pseudo-president on the side. Enough! No more Mavericks, no more Hockey Moms, no more Barracudas --- no more parachutes -- golden or otherwise!

Posted by: neithernor | September 26, 2008 12:42 PM

he makes things worse, and claims credit, he orchestrates a ridiculous, counterproductive White House meeting, and accuses Obama of posturing by making a statement supporting Bush's plan and the compromise, and he leaves town claiming that he's the one championing the interests of taxpayers and homeowners, when those were the issues that the democrats insisted be added to the Paulson plan.

when you get comfortable with lying through your teeth, and have no shame making up alternate universes, it just becomes frightening.

and he's running with a lady who has her pastor lay hands on her to protect her from witchcraft and actually claims that having Putin's plane fly over Alaskan airspace 8 miles high on his way to DC is foreign policy experience. God help us.

Posted by: JoeT1 | September 26, 2008 12:42 PM

gee, McCain stiffed Letterman and Dave is all a tiher. Didn't realize that Dave Letterman was still on TV. Oh, but then I saw him with Paris Hilton. Dave, what a comedian, whose time has passed.

Posted by: Jazzman47 | September 26, 2008 12:40 PM

I also liked the 500 thousand slush fund from Fannie to McCain that was in the news yesterday, but also buried. It looks like we may be in for another pile of mature masculine maverick manure before the naight is through.

The Republicans are really looking bad now. But I know just when it looks like the Democrats can take the shot to win they shot- themselves in the foot.

Posted by: glenglish | September 26, 2008 12:38 PM

How could this happen?
How could that happen?
How could things get so messed-up?
How could things get so off-track?
How could there be problems?
How could there be miscommunications?
THEY ARE REPUBLICANS.....
THAT's THE WAY THEY ARE.
Haven't the past eight years been ENOUGH PROOF?

Posted by: TOMHERE | September 26, 2008 12:36 PM

True, economists are understandably concerned about the bailout, and we should all be grateful.

There are a lot of suggestions still out there. I think we should look long and hard at how the Swedes handled a similar emergency in the early 1990s.

I think every financial entity who wants help should individually approach a bipartisan panel with access to taxpayer bailout money, books open, all collateral (including stock) in hand. If they want help, then let them have it in the form of a government-backed loan. Failure to pay it back means their stock will be sold later at a profit by the government.

I think we should look at the possibility of a 25 cents tax on each $100 stock transaction. Small potatoes for the market, but a return of perhaps more than $150 billion for the taxpayer per year. Let's get our money back. London's market does it. Why not ours?

Obviously, we need action. And soon. But let's be sensible about it. I'm not an economist. My ideas are a child's ideas compared to the smart men and women trained in this area. So let's listen to a blue-ribbon panel of economists from across the spectrum before we act with any finality.

As for McCain? Please. I think by now most thinking Americans have seen through his reckless grandstanding. He's been nothing but an unwelcome troublemaker. Maybe he will have some answers concerning his dangerous gamble at tonight's debate. Just don't expect his ego to allow room for a mea culpa.

Posted by: sweetwtrbay | September 26, 2008 12:35 PM

McCain's campaign NEVER suspended its activities -- all the proxies were in action. He really thinks Americans are stupid.

Desperate moves by a desperate campaign. This is not what America needs.

Whoever you vote for, make sure it's not for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: szang@sbgnet.com | September 26, 2008 12:34 PM

Thecannula,

Get a clue. The House Republicans didn't need a Senator to get themselves a "seat" at the negotiating table. They could have shown up whenever they wanted. Do you understand how Congress actually works?

Posted by: KAM3 | September 26, 2008 12:34 PM

Great analysis. Thanks.

Posted by: chrisduckworth | September 26, 2008 12:34 PM

One thing the Republican's have done for years in their elections is redefine the English Language to suit their needs. The have taken "intentional" advantage of the deficiencies that exist in the Amrican Electorate. Past and present, dead and alive, Atwater, Rove, Schmit, etc., Republican hack advisors have implemented the the age old K.I.S.S. Theory, "Keep It Simple Stupid". Fortunately, the intellect of the electorate has come of age and this is the Change that is going to make the difference in this Presidential Election. Fast forward, NEWS BULLETIN...November 5, 2008, "American Electorate no longer Stupid as once thought to be by Republican's. Obama Wins Presidency". That will be a great day for America and the World. All those years of parent's encouraging their children to get educated is finally going to pay off.

Posted by: ccclam | September 26, 2008 12:34 PM

Why blame sen. McCain and Republicans if talks are stalled? Sen. Obama and the Democrats want to give 700 billion of taxpayers money and they wanted the Republicans opposed to this to give them political cover.Now they are blaming Sen. McCain for the failure of the Bailout scheme which they have no guts to pass on their own.

If they really believe this is a judicious thing to do they should go ahead and pass the bill over the objections of the Republicans.THEY GOT THE VOTES and can do so without any Republican help.

Who is now injecting politics to this crisis? All those fawning media hacks favoring Obama should give a little credit to Sen. McCain for trying to resolve this crisis.

Posted by: tim591 | September 26, 2008 12:34 PM

Oh my! Having just read Sen McCain's press release in this article for the first time, and putting it into context of the reality reported by so many others involved, including the White House, I don't know if I've ever seen such bald face lies... betting that the American people are stupid.

In 2000, Sen. McCain was the first politician that I had ever in my then 41 years donated money..., I'm prior service Army, thought he was a "straight talk" kind of guy..., but now it is plain, he only cares about himself and becoming President. I have lost not just most of my respect for the man, but all of it and consider him to be without honor. His "Country First" slogan a joke, evidenced first and foremost by his choice of VP running mate, given as much thought as this recent stunt to fly to DC and frell an agreement that had all but been settled.

Posted by: BruceBlack | September 26, 2008 12:33 PM

Lies are lies and stay lies, no matter how many times the Republic Party cadres repeat them about Obama and Biden. However, if you would like to talk about PORK and EARMARKS, how does $1 trillion for bankers sound and $1 trillion for the war lobby? Shall we talk about the governor of 1 1/2 years and her SCANDALS and weird preacher who wants to chase away the practioneers of WITCHCRAFT? Shall we talk about McCain's part in the Lincon Savings bust and scandal? Shall we talk about how the Pentagon told him he'd NEVER make Admiral? Shall we talk about Palin's SUPPORT for Alaska to SECEDE from the USA? Or shall we talk about Obama's reverance for our CONSTITUTION? Yes, the same Constitution your bumbling idiot hero Bush called a "god*amned piece of paper" because it got in the way of his domestic spying program.

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | September 26, 2008 12:32 PM

JOHN MCCAIN=PATHOLOGICAL LIAR =POLITICAL OPPORTUNIST=BENEDICT ARNOLD

This week on the eve of The First Presidential Debate, with McCain's poll numbers sliding largely because of his continued misstatements about the economy, it appears that McCain's fundamental misunderstanding of economic policy has been noticed and picked up on by nervous Americans in many battleground states. So, what does McCain do? On the eve of a deal being brokered by serious, earnest leaders in DC on the Bailout Plan, McCain "suspends" his campaign, even while continuing to campaign, unilaterally attempts to cancel the debate, and descends on DC for a photo op which was appropriately ridiculed by Barney Frank as "Mighty Mouse coming to save the day." McCain has not been at all involved to date on the entire process. The McCain Campaign and some folks in his party saw an opportunity to put POLITICS FIRST, NOT COUNTRY FIRST, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS FIRST....allowed McCain, in the ultimate act of brinksmanship,to come in to destabilize negotiations for the sake of saving John McCain's political campaign and provide him a photo op. If one more bank should go under, one more American lose their job, one more community crumble the finger should be pointed directly and squarely on AMERICA'S NEW BENEDICT ARNOLD----> JOHN MCCAIN. Let me be clear, John McCain destabilized fragile negotiations in our nation's capitol 40 days out from the election. This is McCain's September Surprise.

Posted by: LondonInNY | September 26, 2008 12:32 PM

The Paulson deal is a matter of Public Record- All changes in it will be as well. By causing us to Pause and think for an extra day or week, any subsequent improvement on this bailout Will be forever recognized as John McCain's contribution to the rescue of our economy....long after the next 8 years have passed.

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 12:31 PM

Just LOOK around YOU !

Piss-Poor State-Craft...
A Bungled Economy...

Is this the America you remember growing up?
So where does the Buck Stop NOW ?

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | September 26, 2008 12:31 PM

McCain, as a U.S. Senator had every right to be involved in any and all discussions to which he will be voting on - as does Obama.
McCain will show his superior knowledge and experience in the upcoming debate - expecially since Obama will not have a teleprompter allowing people to feed him information.
I'm an Independent and will support McCain because Obama lines himself up with too many strange people - I'd still like an answer to who paid his way through the university - why hasn't the information been allowed to be released??? SCAREY!!!

Posted by: Sabrina4 | September 26, 2008 12:30 PM

Why do you keep LYING! There was no deal. The House Republicans were against it. The blowhards Dodd and Schumer came out in the morning trying to steal the limelight. These are the clowns who helped get us in this mess by forcing Freddie and Fanny to loan money to people who would NEVER pay it back.The Dems are determined to redistribute wealth. Oh, and don't forget Dodd's sweatheart loans.

Posted by: beecheery | September 26, 2008 12:28 PM

Why is that when someone disagrees with the Democrats in Congress, they have an ulterior motive and are according to the MSM just plain stupid?

Well, the MSM is going to be shocked on November 4, when people vote for the Republican ticket, and part of the reason for the vote will be to vote against the MSM and, of course, the inexperienced candidate at the top of our Democratic ticket. The polls are all over the place but make no mistake about it...unless there are a lot more African American voters out there that have not been counted in the census, Barack Obama will lose.

Posted by: hazwalnut | September 26, 2008 12:27 PM

He went to Washington for a secret three way with Lindsay-boy and Lieberman.

Posted by: thor2 | September 26, 2008 12:26 PM

Why do I get the sense thet Dan Balz and many in the MSM are itching to write the headline, "McCain saves the day!"? Saving the day would require bringing all sides to the table and mediating the deal. The only side that needs to come to the table is House Republicans, which means that McCain simply needs to get HIS team on the field. That's certainly not leadership; it's just effectively begging your own players to not embarrass you. Secondly, he's NOT mediating any deal. He's just standing with his team, so how is that saving the day?

Posted by: NMP1 | September 26, 2008 12:25 PM

Reallythinkaboutit stated:
"You see, McCain does not have as much money as Obama has."

* * * *

I know what the writer above meant to say, but he did not. McCain is a wealthy man when compared to Obama. Let McCain dig into his deep pockets and put some money where his mouth is. Other politicians have done as much. However, McCain is a greedy, old man. Even Hillary put money into her campaign. Hillary has character that McCain does not. Obama is running one of the largest grassroots campaigns in history. He IS publicly funded and not a dime is coming from the U.S. Treasury. Afterall, the treasury is broke. McCain backs up to this empty treasury and asks for his part. Doesn't this sound just like a wealthy man: I'll keep mine and give me your?

Posted by: EarlC | September 26, 2008 12:25 PM

"Oh please. He stopped in to have coffee and a donut, then got back on the plane.

He and Obama both. Reeked of political opportunism."
--------------------------------------------------
Hold up now. The President invited Obama to the White House. How could Obama refuse? Bush tried to set MCCain up to look good but it may have backfired.

Posted by: kentonsmith | September 26, 2008 12:25 PM

To the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate:

As economists, we want to express to Congress our great concern for the plan proposed by Treasury Secretary Paulson to deal with the financial crisis. We are well aware of the difficulty of the current financial situation and we agree with the need for bold action to ensure that the financial system continues to function. We see three fatal pitfalls in the currently proposed plan:

1) Its fairness. The plan is a subsidy to investors at taxpayers’ expense. Investors who took risks to earn profits must also bear the losses. Not every business failure carries systemic risk. The government can ensure a well-functioning financial industry, able to make new loans to creditworthy borrowers, without bailing out particular investors and institutions whose choices proved unwise.

2) Its ambiguity. Neither the mission of the new agency nor its oversight are clear. If taxpayers are to buy illiquid and opaque assets from troubled sellers, the terms, occasions, and methods of such purchases must be crystal clear ahead of time and carefully monitored afterwards.

3) Its long-term effects. If the plan is enacted, its effects will be with us for a generation. For all their recent troubles, America's dynamic and innovative private capital markets have brought the nation unparalleled prosperity. Fundamentally weakening those markets in order to calm short-run disruptions is desperately short-sighted.

For these reasons we ask Congress not to rush, to hold appropriate hearings, and to carefully consider the right course of action, and to wisely determine the future of the financial industry and the U.S. economy for years to come.

Signed (updated at 9/25/2008 8:30AM CT)

Acemoglu Daron (Massachussets Institute of Technology)
Adler Michael (Columbia University)
Admati Anat R. (Stanford University)
Alexis Marcus (Northwestern University)
Alvarez Fernando (University of Chicago)
Andersen Torben (Northwestern University)...
100 or so more down to
Zitewitz Eric (Dartmouth University)
**************
Thanks, John McCain for continuing the dialogue in order to avoid rushing into a mistake that would last "for a generation".

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 12:25 PM

**The objective evidence is that things got worse, not better, in Washington after McCain arrived.**

says it all--

McLiar ain't got the chops, the brains or the cred to be prez.

And what's up with his protruding left eye?

He's been blinking too much?


Posted by: lichtme | September 26, 2008 12:24 PM

The straight talk express my as*

John McSame should call it the Chicken Sh*t express for
politicizing such crucial negotiations.

New headline:
Big stunt by Big Mac fries his candidacy.

Posted by: wisacriminal | September 26, 2008 12:23 PM

I am a Democrat, but am glad McCain was there, and I hope they prevent this bill that gives more money to the Acorn thugs who helped BO steal the primary caucuses.

But not any pork, the Democrats have actually earmarked the bill with 100 million dollars for left wing organizers left-wing housing entitlement mobsters and heavily tax-subsidized fraudsters at ACORN. As some of you may already know, ACORN is already under federal investigation for election FRAUD and other unwholesome acts.

When you read the Democrat earmark, specifically Section 5 of the Chris Dodd counter-proposal to the Paulson Plan, a large portion of any repayment of the $700 billion would go to the ‘uber community organizers’ of ACORN, with a smaller allocation to debt repayment. It specifically promises a minimum 20% of the ‘profits’ from the Treasury’s sale of assets to The Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund.

Posted by: thejaner | September 26, 2008 12:23 PM

thecannula, can you point to anything specific that McCain did?
-Nowanna


NOwanna-
By witholding his support for the plan Yesterday, McCain put everything on hold....exactly what 100's of academic economists suggested...he then secured a place at the negotiating table for Roy Blunt, the congressman from Missouri, in order to represent the house republican and economists concerns. If a better deal comes out than the one George,Barney, Harry, and Nancy were pushing, you could say he Saved the Day!

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 12:23 PM

Anyone notice the paucity of economists who think that the bailout will actually work? Firstly, at what price will the Treasury buy back this toxic debt? "Toxic" as it is, there are bids for this debt - its just that the sellers don't like the bids. They expect the Treasury to do better. Ideally for the sellers, the price paid by the Treasury would be somewhere closer to what the paper was originally purchased for...ideally that's what the institutions want...to be essentially recapitalized to where they were before the bubble burst.

Think that move will free up the credit markets? Think again. If you were a senior banker today what would you be doing?

Your goal would be to protect your financial institution. Hoard cash. Build liquidity. Strengthen loan/deposit ratios. Reduce borrowing to an absolute minimum - preferably zero. Fund your assets with retail deposits (insured by FDIC) and your own capital to the extent you possible can. Lend money to no one if you don't have to...tighten your credit standards. Do not participate in the inter-bank markets if you are not a net buyer of fed funds. If you are a net buyer, unload some saleable assets to reduce dependency on overnight money. Profitability is no longer paramount. Your shareholders will forgive you if your profits slide so long as your institution survives.

This buyout may not accomplish what it is expected to accomplish for the markets

Posted by: toritto | September 26, 2008 12:21 PM


Frankly,

It's more than a little saddening to see McCain grasping at straws like this. In his youth, he obviously held himself to a higher standard. To some extent, I think you have to blame the inclusion of Karl Rove's bully boys but in the end the message is approved by John McCain.

Apart from that, I have to say the idea of someone who is even less predictable and just a manipulable as "w" is the most frightening thing of all.

Posted by: SS11 | September 26, 2008 12:20 PM

thecannula:

Even Obama agrees with McCain "I think that there is real progress being made this morning and last night, and I think it's important that the markets seem to be staying relatively calm at this point," Obama said on his campaign plane back to Mississippi.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 12:20 PM

I call bullsh*t. This was a Rovian stunt plain and simple. Even though McSame effectively torpedoed the negotiations yesterday, he can still claim to the idiots in America that he showed "Leadership." And that, my friends, is the only line that matters, because it's SIMPLE, much like the diptards who will pull the lever for another 4 years of recession by voting for McSame.

Posted by: zoltan1 | September 26, 2008 12:19 PM

the White Oppressors
are obviously making it hard
for minorities to get nice
houses,
maybe Tony Rezko could help
them too.

Posted by: USA3 | September 26, 2008 12:19 PM

If you call what McCain did on this an accomplishment, that explains a lot of things. He did manage to take the spotlight away from the Palin and the Couric interviews and if you actually saw the interviews, that was quite an accomplishment.

Posted by: YUTZ | September 26, 2008 12:19 PM

Grandpa McSame goes to Washington, screws things up, falls on face, checks polls, turns yellow, and slinks back to the debate. Only question now is, has he had time enough to memorize the three "zingers" his camp has - no doubt - worked up for him? Oh, and will the ever-foxy Miss Palin be in the audience, eating popcorn and trying to figure out whether Putin is going to "rear his head" anytime soon. This Republican ticket is beneath contempt - inept, stupid, and ever-eager to wallow in the worst gutter politics.

Posted by: bclark3 | September 26, 2008 12:18 PM

I am sure that Congress on both sides of the aisle want to resolve this issue. Unfortunately, the Republican brand is taking a direct hit in the crises that have occurred during the past several months. Trickle-down economics does not work and never will work. Money needs to go to the working poor, these are the people who suffer with every point of inflation when the minimum wage does not change. It is absurd to hear McCain and his cohorts talk about main street when they basically could care less.

It is also time to put an end to the worship of Ronald Reagan under whose presidency this middleclass person suffered the largest tax increase in history.

There is no doubt in my mind that the "conservative" party has evolved into a "borrow-and-spend" gang. Just review the budget deficits for the past 30 years or so. It has taken "tax-and-spend" Democrats to try to bring some sanity back to the budget process. In essence, the Republicans have found a legal way to bribe the American public to vote for them. People, you have to see that cutting taxes will never lead to a balanced budget unless you are willing to convert the country you love into a third-world country. As a debtor state, we are already up a tree. McCain wants to cut all taxes with the wealthiest few receiving the vastly greatest benefit. Obama has the tax issue correct. He has set the benchmark at 250K. This benchmark can be adjusted for inflation as the years go on. What we need is the tax scale we had prior to 1986. Someone or some party has to bring sanity back to the tax code and the deficit.

Posted by: EarlC | September 26, 2008 12:18 PM

Maybe obama has a dinner party
for Iranian diplomats?
as long as they dont
threaten to waste the pate'

Posted by: USA3 | September 26, 2008 12:16 PM

John McCain accomplished what he wanted to do for the time period, the question is will it work in his favor.

You see, McCain does not have as much money as Obama has. So by suspending the campaign, he can save some money for a day or two. And he gets the media talking about him and FREE air time... How? The media covered him at the Global initiative, he was on the news stations, he had photo ops with the president etc... (Does this really sound like suspending a campaign???)

Then he gets the attention away from his bad poll numbers.

He also gets the media away from talking about the unqualified VP pick named Palin.

And then he can try to spin working a bipartisan bill.

Just a bunch of TRICKS!!!

Posted by: ReallyThinkAboutIt | September 26, 2008 12:15 PM

Oh please. He stopped in to have coffee and a donut, then got back on the plane.

He and Obama both. Reeked of political opportunism.

Posted by: Meepo | September 26, 2008 12:15 PM

What B.S. The democrats have majorities in each branch of Congress. Why don't they just pass the bailout?
Because they are cowards. That is the only correct answer. They know it's a pig. Lots of the money is going to Obama's organization ACORN, the corrupt voter registration cabal.
No one should trust any of the criminals in the democrat leadership.
Thank God for the House conservative Republicans.

Posted by: LarryG621 | September 26, 2008 12:14 PM

Walking on the beach, in his flip flops,
saying 'lets let the UN handle this
agression' WHAT THE????
Now snide remarks about chewing gum
and passing legislation.
this obama is too cool for the idea
that the president SERVES THE PEOPLE'
I like a city of 1 million within range
of russian artillary, and the democratic
nominee says' Georgia should show restraint
in defending itself.
THis guy is NOT RIGHT for a dangerous
world... give him a few more years
with spike lee to get his,
everything is racist doctrine,
down pack.

Posted by: USA3 | September 26, 2008 12:14 PM

More pompous posturing from the drama king. I guess his campaign's internal polling showed that his "skip the debate" gambit was backfiring, so he courageously reversed course - for the good of the nation, of course.

Posted by: officermancuso | September 26, 2008 12:13 PM

John McCaint has suddenly gotten quite concerned about the crisis on Wall Street.

Just more lies....

So much so that he has announced he’s suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington so he can work with Congress on solving the problem and he wants Obama to do the same which will mean putting off that pesky debate they were supposed to have on Friday.

The situation was so urgent in fact that McCaint called up David Letterman personally to cancel his appearance on his show so he wouldn’t waste any time tackling the problem.

Except that he apparently had time to stick around long enough to film an interview with Katie Couric, to "expalin" the pathetic interview with peeeuuu Palin whereas she fumbles and get confused on such a simple subject....and literally self destructs on CBS.....

So while McCaint was at the West 57th street CBS News Location.....at same point in time he would have been on Letterman.

Needless to say, Dave wasn’t impressed. In fact Dave had some pretty good points to make during the course of the show.

David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric.

According to Letterman, McCaint personally called him and apologized for bailing out at the last minute.

He said he was suspending his campaign to rush to Washington and help fight America’s biggest economic crisis since the great depression.

Letterman understood the urgency of this issue and said it was ok.

Boy, Was he mad when he knew that McCaint did not actually go to Washington to solve the ‘Crisis’ and fix the ‘Crater’ in the economy?

Letterman stopped his interview with Keith Olbermann midway to show a live TV feed of McCaint getting makeup for his interview with Katie Couric.

Letterman said something is terribly wrong with McCain’s campaign ..and it smells....(peeeuuu Palin anyone)and that he was just playing a political game by saying that he was suspending his campaign.

And when Dave saw McCaint with Couric having makeup applied to his cancer ridden head he yelled out and said: "Hey John, do you need a ride to the airport??????.

He felt this a political gimmick to stop his sliding poll numbers from sliding further. He repeatedly asked the same question - ‘Where is your running mate, Sarah Palin?’.

You do not suspend a campaign a month before elections, you get your second in command to run the show instead.

A total of 10 minutes was used up by Dave Letterman to shred McCain and his publicity stunt into pieces.

View David's Anger @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

After the Walter Cronkite moment of 1968 now 40 years later for McCaint on David Letterman......I don’t think McCain will be scheduling a follow-up appearance anytime soon.

Thanks Again Dave.... for showing us the truth..yet again......McCaint can't multi-task.....

Its the end of the peeeuuu Palin bubble and McCaints lies.......

"Thanks but no thanks for more of the lies that bridge America to nowhere......"

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 12:12 PM

John McCaint has suddenly gotten quite concerned about the crisis on Wall Street.

Just more lies....

So much so that he has announced he’s suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington so he can work with Congress on solving the problem and he wants Obama to do the same which will mean putting off that pesky debate they were supposed to have on Friday.

The situation was so urgent in fact that McCaint called up David Letterman personally to cancel his appearance on his show so he wouldn’t waste any time tackling the problem.

Except that he apparently had time to stick around long enough to film an interview with Katie Couric, to "expalin" the pathetic interview with peeeuuu Palin whereas she fumbles and get confused on such a simple subject....and literally self destructs on CBS.....

So while McCaint was at the West 57th street CBS News Location.....at same point in time he would have been on Letterman.

Needless to say, Dave wasn’t impressed. In fact Dave had some pretty good points to make during the course of the show.

David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric.

According to Letterman, McCaint personally called him and apologized for bailing out at the last minute.

He said he was suspending his campaign to rush to Washington and help fight America’s biggest economic crisis since the great depression.

Letterman understood the urgency of this issue and said it was ok.

Boy, Was he mad when he knew that McCaint did not actually go to Washington to solve the ‘Crisis’ and fix the ‘Crater’ in the economy?

Letterman stopped his interview with Keith Olbermann midway to show a live TV feed of McCaint getting makeup for his interview with Katie Couric.

Letterman said something is terribly wrong with McCain’s campaign ..and it smells....(peeeuuu Palin anyone)and that he was just playing a political game by saying that he was suspending his campaign.

And when Dave saw McCaint with Couric having makeup applied to his cancer ridden head he yelled out and said: "Hey John, do you need a ride to the airport??????.

He felt this a political gimmick to stop his sliding poll numbers from sliding further. He repeatedly asked the same question - ‘Where is your running mate, Sarah Palin?’.

You do not suspend a campaign a month before elections, you get your second in command to run the show instead.

A total of 10 minutes was used up by Dave Letterman to shred McCain and his publicity stunt into pieces.

View David's Anger @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

After the Walter Cronkite moment of 1968 now 40 years later for McCaint on David Letterman......I don’t think McCain will be scheduling a follow-up appearance anytime soon.

Thanks Again Dave.... for showing us the truth..yet again......McCaint can't multi-task.....

Its the end of the peeeuuu Palin bubble and McCaints lies.......

"Thanks but no thanks for more of the lies that bridge America to nowhere......"

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 12:11 PM

"He (McCain) is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans."

********************

Hey Camp Obama- This addition of Blunt to the discussion is what we McCain supporters call.....AN ACCOMPLISHMENT-
(a novel term for those who support a candidate WITHOUT any)

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 12:06 PM

"Things got worse" IF you think that Wall Street CEOs should be bailed out when it's Main Street that's really hurting.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 12:05 PM

To the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate:

As economists, we want to express to Congress our great concern for the plan proposed by Treasury Secretary Paulson to deal with the financial crisis. We are well aware of the difficulty of the current financial situation and we agree with the need for bold action to ensure that the financial system continues to function. We see three fatal pitfalls in the currently proposed plan:

1) Its fairness. The plan is a subsidy to investors at taxpayers’ expense. Investors who took risks to earn profits must also bear the losses. Not every business failure carries systemic risk. The government can ensure a well-functioning financial industry, able to make new loans to creditworthy borrowers, without bailing out particular investors and institutions whose choices proved unwise.

2) Its ambiguity. Neither the mission of the new agency nor its oversight are clear. If taxpayers are to buy illiquid and opaque assets from troubled sellers, the terms, occasions, and methods of such purchases must be crystal clear ahead of time and carefully monitored afterwards.

3) Its long-term effects. If the plan is enacted, its effects will be with us for a generation. For all their recent troubles, America's dynamic and innovative private capital markets have brought the nation unparalleled prosperity. Fundamentally weakening those markets in order to calm short-run disruptions is desperately short-sighted.

For these reasons we ask Congress not to rush, to hold appropriate hearings, and to carefully consider the right course of action, and to wisely determine the future of the financial industry and the U.S. economy for years to come.

Signed (updated at 9/25/2008 8:30AM CT)

Acemoglu Daron (Massachussets Institute of Technology)
Adler Michael (Columbia University)
Admati Anat R. (Stanford University)
Alexis Marcus (Northwestern University)
Alvarez Fernando (University of Chicago)
Andersen Torben (Northwestern University)...
100 or so more down to
Zitewitz Eric (Dartmouth University)
**************
Thanks, John McCain for continuing the dialogue in order to avoid rushing into a mistake that would last "for a generation".

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 12:05 PM

He failed, so what? He was in there Mavericking!

You know what Mavericks do, they shake folks up, ruffle some feathers. No one ever said they get results.

Posted by: sacomment | September 26, 2008 12:03 PM

It's not "mission accomplished." John McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign was made in the hopes that politics could be set aside to address our economic crisis.

In response, Americans saw a familiar spectacle in Washington. At a moment of crisis that threatened the economic security of American families, Washington played the blame game rather than work together to find a solution that would avert a collapse of financial markets without squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ money to bailout bankers and brokers who bet their fortunes on unsafe lending practices.

Both parties in both houses of Congress and the administration needed to come together to find a solution that would deserve the trust of the American people. And while there were attempts to do that, much of yesterday was spent fighting over who would get the credit for a deal and who would get the blame for failure. There was no deal or offer yesterday that had a majority of support in Congress. There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress — especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

The difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was apparent during the White House meeting yesterday, where Barack Obama’s priority was political posturing in his opening monologue defending the package as it stands. John McCain listened to all sides so he could help focus the debate on finding a bipartisan resolution that is in the interest of taxpayers and homeowners. The Democratic interests stood together in opposition to an agreement that would accommodate additional taxpayer protections.

Senator McCain has spent the morning talking to members of the administration, members of the Senate, and members of the House. He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans. The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 26, 2008 12:01 PM

McCain declares 'Mission Accomplished' without defining mission or accomplished... where have I seen this movie before?

Posted by: damnpost1 | September 26, 2008 11:59 AM

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