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Biden Acknowledges Palin's 'Great Night'

By Perry Bacon Jr.
VIRGINIA BEACH -- Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic candidate for vice president, praised his rival Sarah Palin for "a great night" and a "very skillfully delivered political speech" but criticized her for not focusing on such key issues as health care and the economy.

"I was impressed with her," Biden said on "Good Morning America," as part of a series of interviews he did to respond to the Alaska governor's speech. "I was also impressed with what I didn't hear. I didn't hear a word mentioned about the middle class."

The Delaware senator, who will appear at a town hall here Thursday morning, has been very careful in his comments about Palin this week and generally sidestepped questions from reporters and Democrats about his opinions of her. Biden repeatedly praised her speech, noting she made "good, funny lines. ... I'm glad they weren't about me. I was sitting there thinking, whoa, zinger."

And he even embraced the GOP charge that Palin has suffered from sexism since she was chosen last week by Republican presidential nominee John McCain to be his running mate.

"The truth is some of the stuff the press and the others have said about the governor are outrageous," he said. "This stuff about how can she be a governor and a vice president and raise three kids, come on. Whoever those folks are don't know any strong women. ... Some of the stuff said has been over the top, totally unfair, and I think it has been sexist."

In interviews this morning with several networks, Biden repeatedly sidestepped questions about how he would take on Palin when the pair debates next month. But he said in response to her biting criticism of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, "I'm not going to change my tone" on the campaign trail.

Biden has sharply criticized McCain's views on health care, taxes and Iraq during the past few days, but he hasn't used the sarcasm sprinkled throughout Palin's remarks at the Republican National Convention.

Biden's response mirrored that of Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, who sent an e-mail to the campaign's supporters following Palin's speech defending Obama.

"Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack's experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed," Plouffe wrote. "Let's clarify something for them right now. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."

By Lexie Verdon  |  September 4, 2008; 9:26 AM ET
Categories:  Joe Biden , Sarah Palin  
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Comments

RW:

I see. Does the fact that the Northerners were simply using emancipation as a tool to subdue southern economic growth justify access to slaves and the democratic party's support of slavery at that time? Does the fact that the Republican party may be currently opposing abortion simply in order to garner votes justify access to abortion?

Your view that it's "the economy, stupid" is rather inane. Most things can be related to each other. It simply a matter of finding the right transformation. In intellectual arguments its best to stay away from trite and overly generalized statements. By the way, attacking your opponent's education as a way of proving them wrong is a classic logical error...somewhat of a reverse appeal to authority. It is especially comical and undermines your credibility when your opponent's previous arguments suggest that he may be fairly well educated.

Anyway, you have yet to actually refute my statements (which I've actually backed up with a reference...albeit a weak one). Do you concede?

I'll concede this: the Democratic party has come a long way when it used to proclaim itself as the "White man's party" and ardently supported slavery. In fact, years after co-opting the emancipation wave, it's a bastion of equal opportunity now with great appeal to African Americans. Who knows, sometime in the future, will it co-opt the pro-life agenda and one day hold great appeal to those who weren't aborted?

Times change and injustices are rectified as people's eyes are opened to them. It's simply a matter of time before the "choice" to abort an innocent human being goes the way of the "choice" to own slaves.

Posted by: Ronny | September 5, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Fellow Dems. Picking on Palin isn't gonna work. She's a distraction, she offers up appeal to the emotions of this country.
We can talk facts in and out all day, but it won't work.

The reality is that she is an extremist, she seeks to divide this country and push the american dream further away from the middle class.

I don't need to know all the dirty facts about her. I just know that the republicans have done this country wrong and on account of my own strong morals, I simply can't vote for them. I believe in accountability, and they're just scrambling around because they wan't my vote. Mrs. Palin may indeed be a great and aggressive reformer, but the GOP brought her in too late.

Posted by: Matt | September 4, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess all of you out there think it's Ok that the maverick called Cindy a trollop and a c--t.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-dinsmore/questioner-dragged-out-of_b_99762.html

Posted by: Natty | September 4, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Dems, but your lies won't fly.

Anyone who watched or read the speech knows that Sarah wasn't mocking community organizing. She was mocking ONE community organizer, in the context of his holding up that experience as grounds for seeking the Presidency of the United States.

Sarah knocked it out of the park, a grand slam. Shows the difference between women who actually work skillfully at a career and those who are handed one riding on the coat tails of their powerful men.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Charles asks, after some mindless blather, "Where are the adults?"

Well, they're certainly not posting under the moniker Charles, that's for sure.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

We already act like a drunken fifteen year old waving a gun in the world's face. Do we want a self aggrandizing "pit bull in lipstick" conducting our foreign diplomacy?
Where are the adults?

Posted by: Charles | September 4, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will be the first woman president some day. What an outstanding woman. She can do it all. "Howdy Doody" big ears, Obama is a crack head and can not be trusted.You know what a person is like by who his friends are. His friends are terrorists and America haters.. Why would we trust him? I get physically ill just looking at that idiot!

Posted by: dharma | September 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

She was defending herself from the Obama MOB that was questioning her leadership skills, especially when they hear PTA and small town Mayor. Seems like Obama folks can't take a rebuttal!

Posted by: Johnny | September 4, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

So the PTA is not a community organized event? What the hell is the PTA then?

Posted by: manny | September 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin's and Giuliani's mocking of community organizations was insulting to Democrats and Republicans alike. I am astonished that they would criticize the concept of people pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps and turning to others in the community for help in solving problems. This especially goes against conservative doctrine that government should not be involved in these efforts but rather they should be left to the people and to community and faith-based organizations. Palin and Giuliani stand against government providing or funding these efforts, and now criticize the people for doing so. Callous!

Posted by: FMolin | September 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight Ronny,

Are you saying that Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Harry S. Truman, Hubert H. Humphrey, and Martin Luther King supported slavery? You should read your U.S. history. The college level, not that crap they put in the second grade text books. The U.S civil war was not about slavery. Slavery was only brought in late in the war as an emotional issue because the war was going so badly for the North and old Abe needed an emotional issue to keep the war drums pounding. The civil war was about "the economy stupid", but unlike today it was not just a bad economy that brought the war on. It was the rise of southern cities and not needing the North to get their products shipped overseas anymore and for not wanting to split their profits with greedy New York and Philadelphia corporations when there was no longer a need to.
The south had two and in some places three growing seasons, they could out produce the North in agriculture and ship it to Europe without any help from the North. In those times the U.S. was almost completely an agriculture economy. Competition from the south scared the huge New York and Philadelphia corporations. Most northern cites treated black people as if they were still slaves or worse yet not even people. So don't throw that old idea that Abe fought to free the slaves at me. People in both the North and the south were against slavery. It was the corporations in the South many of which were owned by investors from the North and from Europe that wanted to keep slavery alive, not the average people. Almost no non plantation owners owned slaves, except for a few people that were against slavery and bought slaves to give them a better life as an employee or to set them free. This is why black people in the south don't hate white people today. They realize that it was the wealthy plantation owners that used and ran the slave trade, not average citizens. Most whites were poor and some were even indentured slaves themselves. Anyway, who do you think helped Harriet Tubman sneak slaves away from Plantations? It sure wasn't northerners. It was white people right there in the south. Seriously read your history.

Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight Ronny,

Are you saying that Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Harry S. Truman, Huber H. Humphrey, and Martin Luther King supported slavery? You should read your U.S. history. The college level, not that crap they put in the second grade text books. The U.S civil war was not about slavery. Slavery was only brought in late in the war as an emotional issue because the war was going so badly for the North and old Abe needed an emotional issue to keep the war drums pounding. The civil war was about "the economy stupid", but unlike today it was not just a bad economy that brought the war on. It was the rise of southern cities and not needing the North to get their products shipped overseas anymore and for not wanting to split their profits with greedy New York and Philadelphia corporations when there was no longer a need to.

The south had two and in some places three growing seasons, they could out produce the North in agriculture and ship it to Europe without any help from the North. In those times the U.S. was almost completely an agriculture economy. Competition from the south scared the huge New York and Philadelphia corporations. Most northern cites treated black people as if they were still slaves or worse yet not even people. So don't throw that old idea that Abe fought to free the slaves. People in both the North and the south were against slavery. It was the corporations in the South many of which were owned by investers from the North and from Europe that wanted to keep slavery alive, not the average people. Almost no non plantation owners owned slaves, except for a few people that were against slavery and bought slaves to give them a better life as an employee or to set them free. This is why black people in the south don't hate white people today. They realize that it was the wealthy plantation owners that used and ran the slave trade, not average citizens. Most whites were poor and some were even indentured slaves themselves. Anyway, who do you think helped Harriet Tubman sneak slaves away from Plantations? It sure wasn't northerners. It was white people right there in the south. Seriously read your history.

Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

So in other words, unions cause the big businesses to make less profit, then government cuts taxes for big business to make up for it. Then they send the jobs overseas and make better profits that they don't get taxed on. Sounds like a win-win situation for big business. I'll be honest. I'm not a fan of the unions. I think they've actually been hurting the working class for quite a few years now. GASP! I've watched my home town lose many jobs because of open strike votes, where unwilling workers feared for their physical welfare, if they voted against the strike. And yes, there are still many who believe they help. Despite this, I can't help but feel this administration has cow-towed to big business and oil interests to the detriment of their citizens. There needs to be a balance, and the status quo isn't anywhere near. Some may say better the devil you know than one you don't. That attitude, however, means you definitely won't find an angel or savior. I think I'll take a leap of faith. Thank you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Does the GOP have a plan like the Democrats do?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama has demonstrated over the last 18 months that he will be a great leader.

McCain has demonstrated over the last 18 months that he would be a rash leader.

Does anyone think that would change once they get in to office? Why?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Don't you extremists Republicans have anything better to do than lie on these boards all day long?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

RW:

You talk about the "great Democrats of old." Did you know that the democratic party was originally formed partly in opposition to the abolition of slavery?

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_democratic.html

I could draw parallels to abortion. Right to liberty (for blacks) vs. right to pursuit of happiness (for whites) -- Right to life vs. right to pursuit of happiness.


Oh....right...these rights are meant for those we consider as "people." Hmmm...I recall reading that the same argument was used against slaves.


Ok...fine. I'll concede that the last part of the analogy should be right to life vs. the right to liberty.

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

RW:

You talk about the "great Democrats of old." Did you know that the democratic party was originally formed partly in opposition to the abolition of slavery?

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_democratic.html

I could draw parallels to abortion. Right to liberty (for blacks) vs. right to pursuit of happiness (for whites) -- Right to life vs. right to pursuit of happiness.


Oh....right...these rights are meant for those we consider as "people." Hmmm...I recall reading that the same argument was used against slaves.

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

RW:

You talk about the "great Democrats of old." Did you know that the democratic party was originally formed partly in opposition to the abolition of slavery?

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_democratic.html

I could draw parallels to abortion. Right to liberty (for blacks) vs. right to pursuit of happiness (for whites) -- Right to life vs. right to pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I love all of the liberal democrat activists who spend their days pumping out posts on the internet claiming " I am neither a rebublican nor a democrat but after last night I could never vote for such a mean, hateful, sarcastic, horrible person as Sarah Palin. She is a disgrace to women everywhere and is an evil Christian who must be stopped.".

Let me save you some effort and tell you why you don't need to waste your energy making your deceitful posts. First, only an idiot would believe that a neutral party would walk away from that speach convinced that she was evil incarnate. A moderate swing either direction is believable but not the caustic rhetoric you toss into every post. Now, given that only an idiot would believe your posts, you are in effect preaching to your own liberal base and therefore wasting your time.

Posted by: Ben | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Iowa Grant:

Palin: "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities."

You're right...there is non-subtle amount of sarcasm in that statement and can easily be taken to mean that community organizers have no actual responsibilities. Being mayor does involve quite a bit more executive responsiblity but she shouldn't have belittled the generosity of community organizers.

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

yeah, you're right, fedupwithdems. let's keep things the way they are, that's a great idea.

how many billions do we spend on an unnecessary wars, including the drug war?

hey Georgia, attack your neighbors, get slapped by Russia -- here's a billion dollars. senseless neo-republicans.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey Anonymous,

Nice of you to only put part of what I wrote and then comment on it. You are a typical Republican, just delete the facts that you don't want people to see. Here is what you should have put in your posting:

I am damned tired of Republicans quoting great Democrats that would not approve of anything Republicans stand for. Republicans constantly quote Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Harry S. Truman, Martin Luther King, and other great Democrats that have stood up for working people. Republicans quote these democrats while their staff members are busy sewing up deals with and for hug corporation to screw the very same people that Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Harry S. Truman, and Martin Luther King fought to protect. Since they are in Minnesota I wonder why the Republicans are not quoting the great Democrat from Minnesota Huber H. Humphry that fought Republicans tooth and nail for civil rights legislation.

The only reason that Republicans quote democrats is because republicans never do anything. There job in government is to make it not work. That is what they are all about. The only Republican that Republicans ever quote is Abraham Lincoln, and if he hadn't been assassinated none us would probably even remember him. A year before the civil war ended Lincoln was the most hated man on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line because of war atrocities in the south and unwanted military drafts in the north. Since Lincoln's assassination Republicans have been rehabilitating his reputation non stop, while at the same time tearing down great Americans like John F Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton. Men that have great reputations for public service and don't need someone to rewrite history about them to make them look good.

So please don't forget how much is at stake in this election. It is not about any of the four candidates, it is about justice. Right now in America there is no justice. Without justice there is no peace.


Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that no one is incensed at McCain calling his wife a trollop and c--t in front of reporters and staff. Glad i don't know anybody out there.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-dinsmore/questioner-dragged-out-of_b_99762.html

Posted by: Natty | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

It did bother me that she felt it okay to make community organizer a negative term, because I know women who run domestic abuse shelters and people who would call themselves community organizers that labeling that term as some lazy nothing job is terribly insulting.

And that she continues to claim a reformer status that her record of earmarks doesn't support. And the bridge to nowhere that she supported up until it wasn't politically viable to do so, and in a surprise move to the town the bridge was to that she said 'bridge to nowhere' was an insulting phrase, she still repeated the white lie that she was a 'maverick' rejecting it.

And of course, that it is sexist to question her but the GOP Indiana delegates can wear buttons that say 'hoosiers for the hot chick'.

Conservative feminism = double standards, not just for men anymore

She still doesn't believe in global warming, sex education, or has any foreign policy experience.

Posted by: Iowa grant | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, the VICE presidential nominee, has a (perhaps seriously) limited amount of executive experience as a mayor and governor.

Barack Obama, the Presidential nominee, has no executive experience whatsoever, has not authored even one bill in his limited legislative experience, and abstained from nearly 180 votes during his career as a legislator.

Refute/agree?

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

OK Anonymous, 2 issues - sending jobs oversees and taxing big business, i.e. EXXON/MOBIL. 1)Thank the UNIONS! If an American worker is to get paid $20/hr for making pencils this pencil will have to cost a dollar. I don't want to pay a dollar for the pencil, do you. I am afraid that since many Union wages are unfairly high in comparison to its worth, we got ourselves into a dead end, a vicious circle if you will. You get paid more, prices go up, you get paid more, the prices go even higher...when will this end? Unfortunately not everyone can make great money, but our Unions tell people that in America they can. Not true. Some of the dock workers in the Port of Charleston (SC)make over 100k a year, do you think this is fair? I don't think so. 2)only 1-2 percent of profits go to top executives, the remaining 98 percent belong to American people and they
are used for research, 401K plans, investments, etc. If you tax them, your returns on your stocks, bonds, 401k's will drop. Tell me who will suffer? You will, and everyone else on this forum. Things are not always as simple as people believe them to be. You can verify all this on line if you wish.

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes ... raise payroll taxes ... raise investment income taxes ... raise the death tax ... raise business taxes ... and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

Refute/agree?

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention that John McCain called his wife Cindy a trollop and the horrible "c word" (c--t) in front of reporters. Wonder what he'll call Sally when he gets ticked off at her. shows how he really feels about women.
Check it out for yourself. No fiction here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-dinsmore/questioner-dragged-out-of_b_99762.html

Posted by: Natty | September 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I understand this correctly. We should vote for Obama because his major accomplishment has been that he co sponsored a bill to keep lobbyists from buying congressmen dinner.

Hey I'm in!!!!

Posted by: JBG | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Make people lose interest in her

Posted by: mguiz | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

FYI, tax and distribute is not communism, nor is it really socialism. We're a capitalist country with a government for the people. Everyone needs to help, and those best able should be the ones to do so. It's the working class that holds up the country. Destroy them and the rich will have a really hard time making any money, unless they send it over seas. But, the poor and down-trodden do rise up and rebel. Until they learn that the Republican party is pro-rich and big-business and not for the working class(except when it furthers their agenda), we'll be stuck with them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"Chris:

Haha...notice how the democratic leadership is not arguing "leadership" experience. Obama would lose. He has less experience than Palin. Legislative experience does not executive experience make."

Ronny: lolololol

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Haha...notice how the democratic leadership is not arguing "leadership" experience. Obama would lose. He has less experience than Palin. Legislative experience does not executive experience make.

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"If John gives us an actual PLAN for the ECONOMY"

He does? Can you explain it to us all? No? Didn't think so. Besides, I know you're not rich, so John McCain doesn't help you anyway.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

She's charming but dull. Charm can become tedious. Work on that.

Posted by: mguiz | September 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"When did we start accepting communism as a form of government?"

Maybe since we overtook you as a country?

Posted by: China | September 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

If John gives us an actual PLAN for the ECONOMY, he doesnt have to be a great orator. Stop talking about your OBAMA and Biden and tell me why stocks tumbled today, why unemployment has skyrocketed and why a dozen of eggs is between $3-4?

Posted by: latinovoter | September 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone even looked into John McCain's Navy partying days? This so called hero was a navy pilot prior to the Tail-hook scandal coming out. Was or is John McCain a member of Tailhook? For those of you that don't recall, Tailhook was a scandal about sexual abuse and out right rape of women by Navy fly-boys that had been a Navy tradition for many years. Did John McCain sexually abuse and rape women when he was a young fly-boy? I am sure that he will say he didn't, but how do we really know? As you Republicans continue to remind us Bill Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman". So has anybody talked to the women of John McCain's era that were raped and sexually abused by Navy fliers or are they all already dead (as old as they would have to be)? I am sure most of his fellow fliers have probably passed away as well. Anyway it is hard to believe that a big Navy stud pilot like John McCain didn't participate in such a time honored tradition of the Navy fly-boys. Especially when his college reputation was that of a big time partier.

Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"Their messiah is floundering as his past is truely coming out."

If by 'floundering' you mean up by an average of six points, then sure. Mostly we're just shocked you'd nominate such an inexperienced imbecile as your VP.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Conservative angry peeps.. If we had a platform like the Washington Post to hodl our banners, then perhaps we would not be so jadded by the press. But we do not have MSNBC, CNN, NYT, LAT, all we have is Fox News.. Ok so more people watch Fox then read the liberal extremist Washington Post...

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama is taxing ALL businesses. Even the little guys. Don't get caught up in thinking how great of a guy he must be. He's a tax and spend, leftist extremist senator who cant make up his mind as to what he believes.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: Obama has little executive experience and is therefore not fit to lead this country.

Democrats: Well...you don't either. And...you're too angry and divisive.

I don't see very much refutation of statements made in her speech in this discussion. It's as if I came out and said "The sky is blue" and, as a refutation, you say "Well..the water's cold."

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse


If only the real media had the journalistic integrity of the Daily Show:

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=184086

If McCain "wins", I call upon all tax payers to boycott the IRS. Just don't pay taxes while McCain is in office. Republicans seem to think they can run the country without taxes, so let them prove it.

Posted by: Boycott the IRS if McCai wins | September 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it great to se how up-in-arms the democrats have gotten? Their messiah is floundering as his past is truely coming out. Reaks of corruption and bad judgement. Serving on a board with one extremist while attending another's church for 20 years. But its ok, he doesn't believe in those point of views. That's like a pothead saying he didn't inhale, seriously.

Posted by: TB | September 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so we're back to the failed "trickle down economics"!? Are you people forgetting that these big businesses are sending our jobs over seas? How about awarding the businesses who create jobs here? I don't think Obama is planning to penalize the small businesses that actually employ our US citizens, but the big businesses who only think about the bottom line and send the jobs overseas to India and China.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad conservatives are such angry negative people. It really turns off moderates.

Anyone can be a sarcastic naysayer. The GOP looks at our current mess and says "Sorry, this is just how it is. Change is an illusion."

Hopelessness as a governing philosophy.

Posted by: BB | September 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin made quite a few statements regarding Barack Obama yesterday. Most were attacks on what he has done, his experience and his ability.

I see quite a few democratic-leaning posts in this discussion but few, if none, of them refute the statements she made.

Mostly I see ad-hominem attacks against her and judgements regarding her character. Unfortunately, these do not prove her statements false.

Posted by: Ronny | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank you fedupwithdems. Finally someone gets it. I'm pretty sure I've never been employed by a poor person. Obama seeks to tax and distribute. When did we start accepting communism as a form of government?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Sitting on a board with William Ayers vs. enabling the biggest fluffer of Iraq lies that actually lead to thousands of Americans dying... what's worse?

Iraqi exile leader Ahmad Chalabi was one of the most sordid figures in the run-up to the Iraq war. Paid by the Bush administration to muster pre-war intelligence, Chalabi drummed up claims that Saddam Hussein had WMD, helping lead the United States into war. More recently, he promoted the “surge” to the Iraqi government.

A new book by Aram Roston reveals that Chalabi supported John McCain (R-AZ) for president in 2000, believing that the senator would be the most receptive to his agenda. Muckraked reports:

One of his key backers has been John McCain, who was one of the first patrons of Chalabi’s grand-sounding International Committee for a Free Iraq when it was founded in 1991. McCain was Chalabi’s favored candidate in the 2000 election since Chalabi knew that he would be able to free up the $97 million in military aid plus millions pushed through in Congress and earmarked for Chalabi’s exile group, the Iraqi National Congress, but held up by the Clinton State Department.

Indeed, McCain was a Chalabi backer long before President Bush took power. In 1997, he tried to pressure the Clinton administration into setting up an Iraqi government in exile. Despite opposition from the Pentagon and the State Department, the next fall, McCain co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act, committing the United States to overthrowing Saddam and funding opposition groups. According to a 2006 article by John Judis:

McCain welcomed Ahmed Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), to Washington and pressured the administration to give him money. When General Anthony Zinni cast doubt upon the effectiveness of the Iraqi opposition, McCain rebuked him at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

In 2003, McCain joined four other Republican senators and asked Bush to “personally clear the bureaucratic roadblocks within the State Department” that blocked increased funding for the Chalabi’s group.

Also that year, McCain said of Chalabi, “He’s a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart.”

Posted by: Another idea | September 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

jimwhite1:

He was talking about his grandfather. It was just a slip of the tongue. Something your candidate has done many, many times!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't impressed. It was what I was expecting though. She read the spell well, but the negativity and the constant attacks turned me off - so I tuned out. The assault on community organizing stuck me wrong - I've been volunteering all my life, and I feel it's an intregal part of every community. To have that service denigrated along with Obamas community service work was petty and small and very short sighted on the mccain camps part. (I blame them because she didn't write it she's just the parrot.)

I was curious, but the lost my vote. Too much of the same old same old. But one thing is sure...I now know where all the "bitter" people are - the gop convention. What a pack of miserable souls, yet they claim to be christian. Go figure.

Posted by: Maggie | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Hmm...bad republicans, all for the rich, big bad oil companies, big money etc.
Ohh...good democrats, Robin Hoods of America, saviors of the poor.
This is how this looks in real life folks. DEMS - they will take it from small & big businesses and give it to the poor.
The businesses will reply - OK, you all get a raise, and now, YOU, YOU and YOU - LAID OFF! Sorry, we can't afford you.
REPS - first help the businesses so they can grow and give people jobs. Is it right or wrong, like it or not, this is the truth. This is capitalism and not communism. Rich employ poor and not vice versa. We need American people working, not unemployed! Don't believe NObama! Vote GOP! Vote McCain/Palin

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Could this country get any more polarized?

Thankfully, most of the people I associate with don't follow politics like a die hard sports fan. I find it hard to believe that Obama, McCain, and Palin are despicable, incompetent, evil people. Yet, it seems that is the view you have to have of one side or the other.

Oh, well. We get what we deserve.

Posted by: TK | September 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"The only Republican that Republicans ever quote is Abraham Lincoln, and if he hadn't been assassinated none us would probably even remember him."

RW, are you kidding? Lincoln kept this country together. I'm pretty sure he would have been remembered regardless of how his life ended. If you are going to make comments, try not to look like the back end of the animal that represents your party.

On a more related note, though some of the speaches may have been a bit meanspirited, much of the content rings true. Obama is unprepared at best to lead this country. 130 "present" votes. How about a yes or no. Or does he not know what he believes and "present" is all he can muster?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The NALEO Conference, Washington, DC, 6/28/08)

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Roni, you've only proved two points: men think with their dicks and women vote with their vaginas.

Posted by: Jonathan | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Dems may get us nowhere, but republicans will take us backwards.

100 years from now, people will look back at us and laugh, like the way we laugh at other civilizations -- "how could they be so stupid?"

there is no jesus, god, allah, mohammed, buddha -- you're all small-minded friggin nutjobs. scary.

Oil rules, nuclear power will rule next.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

For those of you that need a refresher of the Bush-Cheny-McCain machine scandals please paste and copy the address below into you browser.

http://www.slate.com/id/2165783/

This site does not say anything about the Keating 5-Cindy & John McCain scandal. You need to look something up for yourself, but I will give you a starting point.

The truth about John & Cindy McCain

William Black a former government regulator investigating the Lincoln Savings and Loan / Keating 5 / John & Cindy McCain Scandal said: "Senator McCain was unique among the five Senators in having a direct financial conflict of interest involving direct investments.” He also said this about Senator McCain: “On judgment, ethics, and truthfulness he (Senator McCain) failed this test as badly as you can fail”

“God Dammit Johnny no wonder your flunking” A quote from John McCain’s father (a Navy Captain at the time) after catching son Johnny goofing off while visiting him at the U.S. Naval academy according to Frank Gamboa John McCain’s former academy roommate.

John McCain is just another spoiled rich kid wanting to bully us around. Sound familiar? We have just had seven and a half years of it. This guy has made a career out of his bad or at least unlucky flying ability. John McCain is no war hero. He simply got a plane shot out from under him that he probably wasn't qualified to fly in the first place, but when your grandfather was an Admiral and your father is an Admiral there aren't many people in the Navy that are going to risk their careers and tell you the truth. So unqualified little Johnny gets to fly and gets shot down. Wow now that’s a great big surprise! He has been riding it ever since, while true heroes suffer in under funded and under staffed VA hospitals. What a dirt bag.

What about Cindy McCain his greedy wife, she inherited millions and didn’t share a cent with her half sister. She calls herself an only child. Her father while not exactly the most fair minded or charitable guy to ever live at least was giving money to his first daughter’s children for education. That is until the day of his funeral when they found that the card had been shut off by the ever greedy Cindy McCain. She had over a hundred million dollars and shut a credit card off to pay for her father’s own grand children to go to school. What a greedy greedy person. Its no wonder why John McCain likes her so much.


Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who is 35 and born in the US is qualified to be president, as Palin's nomination reminds us.

But it is really unfortunate how people seem to be throwing "elite" around when they talk about Obama (since people think that is a very bad thing). I think a more appropriate term for Obama is "extraordinary." He is a brilliant guy who made his own way through world. He has a great intellect and also a lot of compassion. He could have sold out and made a lot of money (maybe more than Cindy McCain inherited), but instead he set out to help his community (and note to Sarah Palin -- I know a lot of community organizers that due a hell of a lot more to help people than many mayors do).

Why is being brilliant, eloquent, and compassionate disqualifying in the Republican Party's eyes? Don't we want someone who is extraordinary in office? You can argue he doesn't have as much experience as McCain -- that's a valid issue. But attacking him for being a good speaker (aren't good communication skills kind of important in our Nation's top representative?), or being bright enough to make editor of the Harvard Law Review (and that is no small testament to his brilliance) is just stupid and diminishes McCain and Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

RW:

Perhaps you are unaware that JFK was a fiscal conservative?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Community organizer:

She IS an advocate in the state of Alaska. When she gets to Washington, D.C., she will be an advocate there too. Next question?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse


I can accept that the economy is bad, even if not technically in a recession.
Purchasing power of the average income earners will continue to deteriorate as long as fuel and producer price

inputs remain high.

But feel good schemes are not a "plan" to fix that, and frankly, neither are alternative fuel research subsidies.
________________

Posted by: Darth Marley | September 4, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Election '08: The Obama camp tries to suppress a campaign ad and university archives linking the candidate to a '60s terrorist who hosted his first campaign fundraiser. Is he being "swiftboated," or is this a cover-up?

When Obama's association with William Ayers was raised at a Democratic debate this year, Obama replied: "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood. ... He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis."

Tuesday's release of papers from a Chicago school reform project known as the Annenberg Challenge shows once again Barack Obama has a problem with the truth.

The long-sought records that were kept under wraps at the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois, Chicago (UIC), show that Obama and Ayers attended board meetings, retreats and at least one news conference as the education project got under way. The records also show the two continued to attend meetings together during the 1995-2001 operation of the program.

Clearly the relationship between Ayers and Obama is much deeper and longer than Obama admits. They in fact were partners in various entities and regularly exchanged ideas, including on how to turn Chicago schools into re-education camps to create a generation of social revolutionaries.

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Available for Hire: Former community organizer with excellent speaking skills. (Unless your teleprompter is broken.)

Skills: Unconditional negotiation with terrorist nations, home financing, body surfing

Experience:

Education: Ivy League all the way, hurrah

Other Interests: Self promotion, sitting on boards, taking public financing, not taking public financing, occasional wire-tapping, bowling.

Posted by: Obama Bin Biden | September 4, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

another zinger by jimwhite - "harvard elitist"

you don't need no dang education.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I find it disheartening that the first female republican vice presidential nominee was compelled to bash her opponents rather than lay out some substanative ground work as to what it is she sees as her vision for the next administration. I can only hope that Sen Biden and Obama will rise above the frey and choose the higher ground and address the many issues (rising unemployment, rising energy costs, illiquid financial markets, crumbling infrastructure, all time national budget deficit, unaffordable healthcare, illegal immigration......) confronting the POOR and working class citizens of this country. There was nothing about her presentation that spoke to a new generation of politics. In other words she sounded like business as usual. As for being APBT like I didn't see it. I've owned American Pit Bull Terriors for 15 years and actually they have quite a loving nature, unless trained otherwise by their owners. Perhaps Ms. Palin has experienced some sort of abuse to turn her into a viscious attacker, perhaps not. Maybe she was just born mean. And finally if anyone thinks drilling will affect the cost of oil anytime in the near future they are highly disillusioned, It is a long term solution and should be combined with alternative renewable energy development as oil is a finite resource and sun and wind are not. As a final note I am not an Obama supporter. I will vote for someone who really will make change, maybe one of my Pit Bulls.

Posted by: Natty | September 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The word "Advocate", according to the American Heritage dictionary states..."One that argues for a cause; a supporter or defender." Sarah Palin said that when she got to the White House she would be an advocate for families of special needs children. I am bothered by this statement
Why is she waiting until she gets to the White House to be an advocate? If she is so worried about the families of special needs children shouldn't she already be an advocate. It's probably best that she begin at the community organizer level first. You can't advocate alone if you want someone to hear you.

Posted by: Community organizer | September 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Communtiy something--Really sat in an office

130 Present vote --- The democractic politcal machine


Harvard Elitist

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of whether you found the speech nasty or inspiring, Palin certainly brought an energy and enthusiasm to the Republican crowd that McCain simply doesn't. And she clearly energized the evangelical base.

But as an independent going into the night hoping to see some hint of the GOP's solutions to the issues facing America and the world view of Gov. Palin, I was extremely disappointed.

The entire night was filled with sarcasm but no solutions. Sure, the jokes were good. The Obama columns and "clinging" gaffe are gifts that keep on giving. But are the Republicans running to be the next host of the Daily Show or the leader of the free world?

What do we do about the budget deficit if you continue to cut taxes? How can we defend Georgia if we are fighting the war on terror? Victory in Iraq would be great, but what does it look like? Other than drilling, what does a real energy policy look like? And what about Iran? Health Care? Lost jobs? Dropping wages?

It should be pretty clear by now that the republican strategy is to turn this into a contest of personalities as opposed to issues. And if this race comes down to a choice between a war hero and hockey mom reformer vs. an ivy-league celebrity and Washington lifer, they will surely win.

At least Obama, for all his lack of experience, doesn't seem to view this election as a big joke. So after watching last nights spectacle, I'll take McCain's advice and put America First by voting Democrat.


Posted by: Independent | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

O'Reilly's gonna chew Obama up, just like McCain will in the debates. The chicken-s**t Obama, with his promise to debate McCain "any time, any place" flip-flopped on that one too; just like every other flip-flop of his.

Posted by: gp | September 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I want a liberal extremist to take away our unused liberties. I want someone who can use the Washington Post as a spokes-person. I want a person who can make it so the unemployed never have to work. I want the middle class and big bussiness destroyed. I want someone to stop the spread of Christainty, the plege, and in God we trust, taken out to the US.. I want to have the the U.N tell us what we do..


Obama 08
anit that great

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

AIP

AIP

AIP

PTA

PTA

PTA

Posted by: McCain bin Palin | September 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting to see how the ticket is trying to promote itself as a vehicle for "change."

What are they "changing?" Policies? You mean McCain wants to change imbedded Republican policies put forth by their hero George W. Bush?

Are they planning on "changing" how politics is done? They sounded pretty much the same old attack and belittle the other guy, but offer no new ideas to me.

Had I heard ANY new ideas about solving our economic woes, how to help us common folks afford healthcare, how to help our damaged reputation in the world, or how the middle class can get on with their lives unabated by mortgage meltdowns, plant closings, and increased unemployment I might have been impressed. All I heard was that continuing Bush's tax cuts, and perhaps sprinkling in a few more tax cuts, was the medicine to fix all our middle class ills.

Palin may be a socker mom with a union cardholder as a husband, and a mother with a special needs child, but what her "being their friend in Washington" means she did not state at all. She sounded like a typical right winger get in your face Republican to me.

Nothing has changed in the GOP whatsoever. They're still for the rich, still for big oil interests, and still tone deaf to the middle class who values better wages, healthcare, freedom of choice, and freedom to chose what we read in libraries and feel that science, not creationism, is what should be taught in our public schools. If we wanted more attack dogs, why not just keep who we already have in office?

Posted by: aBigSAM | September 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to watch O'Reilly make an arse of himself as Obama calmly pwns him.

Posted by: WTF | September 4, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

To AlexH: Big words do not an intelligent or adult person make! As I've already said, the pro-McCain group tends to be the name-callers, not the deep thinkers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Biden is correct. The GOP made sure Sarah Palin's speech told us nothing of value about her. We did not hear about her views on abortion, creationism, gay rights, that her view is that God willed us to pre-emptively attack Iraq, universal healthcare, social security or how to revitalize the economy. The GOP wants to keep Palin's wacko views, that our of touch with middle America, under wraps. The question is can they keep her masked as a commen sense mom until election. It will be interesting to see how the GOP strategizes allowing the press to ask her questions.

Posted by: Madeleine | September 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I am damned tired of Republicans quoting great Democrats that would not approve of anything Republicans stand for. Republicans constantly quote Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Harry S. Truman, Martin Luther King, and other great Democrats that have stood up for working people. Republicans quote these democrats while their staff members are busy sewing up deals with and for hug corporation to screw the very same people that Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Harry S. Truman, and Martin Luther King fought to protect. Since they are in Minnesota I wonder why the Republicans are not quoting the great Democrat from Minnesota Huber H. Humphry that fought Republicans tooth and nail for civil rights legislation.

The only reason that Republicans quote democrats is because republicans never do anything. There job in government is to make it not work. That is what they are all about. The only Republican that Republicans ever quote is Abraham Lincoln, and if he hadn't been assassinated none us would probably even remember him. A year before the civil war ended Lincoln was the most hated man on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line because of war atrocities in the south and unwanted military drafts in the north. Since Lincoln's assassination Republicans have rehabilitating his reputation non stop, while at the same time tearing down great Americans like John F Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton. Men that have great reputations for public service and don't need someone to rewrite history about them to make them look good.

So please don't forget how much is at stake in this election. It is not about any of the four candidates, it is about justice. Right now in America there is no justice. Without justice there is no peace.

Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I thought her mocking of Obama's goodness, his community service, was a particular low blow, even for a Republican, especially one who blows her own horn so loudly about her own religious values.

I don't want a pit bull for a president. I want a human being.

Posted by: Sara B. | September 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to watch Obama get spanked by O'Reilly tonight.

Posted by: gp | September 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Are you GOPpers OK with Palin's desire to split up the USA?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Did they Chant USA at the Democractic convention?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The Extremists sure love Palin!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god... This war is not "Gods Will" its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode.""

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

That was NOT the real JakeD that said those things. Just some liberal scumbag.

Posted by: Anon | September 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

ALEX H -- Plagiarism? Just google Cindy McCain and recipes. How's that for plagiarism. I guess it's only reprehensible when the other team does it.

Posted by: clearminded | September 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

If the Dems blow this race after having a 15 point going in, they should probably just disband. This was a layup, a breakaway, a fixed fight. They could have run anybody. To blow this would be epic. It would be like the time they ran McGovern. They have 90% of the media helping them. They have Olberman, Matthews, Brokaw. They have NBC, CBS, CNN. They have change, hope, audacity. How can this race even be close?

Posted by: Obama Bin Biden | September 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post - whoever moderates this forum (if anyone at all), please remove the unbelievably ugly posts from JakeD and do not allow his venom to be aired. This is one sick puppy.

Posted by: alanms | September 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Death to Christian-Rise of the Secular Roman (Obama) empire

Socialize welfare state
The government will bailout all the lzy people wo refuse to work

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

jimwhite1, you're exactly right. Well said!

Posted by: Anon | September 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Who do you want as VP?

Joe Biden. The "cheney" to compensate for sweetie hussein's gross inexperience; a plagiarizing expert who has stolen more words than Milton Berle (and he's just as funny). Totally lacking in ethics, in his third-rate, mediocre law school Biden was only able to graduate 76th in a class of 85 - i.e., he was in the lowest 10.5%! Of course, while campaigning, he claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class. A plagiarizer and a LIAR! As a politics-as-usual, 30+-year Washington parasite, Plagiarist-Joe never worked harder than in his efforts to kill bi-partisan legislation simply because it would have adversely affected the enormous income of his lobbyist son. Plagiarist-Joe is the poster-boy for all that is rotten with Washington. This choice further illustrates the incredibly bad judgment of the Chicago Cretin.

Sarah Palin. A true political reformer who has cleaned-up one of the most politically corrupt states in the nation and who has shown a solid and unwavering commitment to ethical government. Palin is the antithesis of Plagiarist-Joe.

Tough choice? ----NOT!

(For the genetically low-IQ supporters of hussein: sorry about using all these adult words. Just so you'll understand, "antithesis" means "opposite". Being a plagiarist is "bad" - not in sense of "good" but in the sense that going to jail for beating-up your old lady is "bad".)

Posted by: ALEX H. | September 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Higher Taxes- Well if you make over $250K
No Military- Not true
Let Liberal extremist run the country- Ha.
Reliance on Foriegn oil- As oppossed to? We don't have enough oil. Period. We have 3% of the reserves. Palin praised Obama's plan two weeks ago!
Socialize welfare- Welfare is socialized, what does that even mean?
Socialize state- Huh?
No guns- Not true.
No freedom of speach- Ha!
No need to work- Not true.
Large Government- No one has increased the size of government more than our current REPUBLICAN president. The one McCain agrees with over 90% of the time.
Empowering the UN to dicitate foriegn policy.- Nope.
Death to America. -Death to tyrants, birth of America.


Obama 08

Posted by: jimwhite1

Jim,

I'd appreciate you giving a positive vision for how the GOP is going to get us out the mess that they put us in instead of just making crap up. Let's act like adults here.

Thanks.

Posted by: Evil | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

the sky is falling, eh jimwhite?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's call a community organizer what it is: Getting together with other activists and encourage wayward souls to join your cause. Now that I think of it, that is exactly what Obama is still doing.

Posted by: Paula | September 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Higher Taxes
No Military
Let Liberal extremist run the country
Reliance on Foriegn oil
Socialize welfare
Socialize state
No guns
No freedom of speach
No need to work
Large Government
Empowering the UN to dicitate foriegn policy
Death to America

Obama 08

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

You've got to be kidding about the "desperate" thing. Palin would not be even considered for vp if the republicans weren't staining their underwear right now. She, more than anything, confirmed that this ticket plans on continuing the dirty, negative politics that the republicans are addicted to. Contrary to what they want you to believe, it is business as usual. They are still a party with a radical agenda that will leave this country and it's people in a terrible place when they achieve their goals.

Posted by: watchingduck | September 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Che! Che! Che!

Obama bin Biden '08

Posted by: Che Guevara | September 4, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: If you're declaring that as more than just a knee-jerk, then godspeed; I'm glad you've found what you need.

As for me, the GOP hasn't shown me much that's high-minded or uplifting--not over the last eight years and certainly not now--and I wish better for my family, friends, community and country. My vote will reflect that.

Posted by: WOBG
******************
bears repeating...

Not one word about the economy - this convention is all about the zen power of being a POW and "hey, everybody, I'm a soccer mom and I hate commie libuuurals." I have not heard one thing about policies and actual plans by one person speaking yet. I am flabbergasted that this convention is skirting around all the real issues that effect all of us as americans. Providing meat to small minded partisans is all well and good - you had to make some noice in that rather sparcely attended place and the JakeD's of the world need something to post about. But what about how you are going to help americans with putting food on the table, keeping a roof over their heads? I am confused, but what is this party about anymore.

Posted by: 2008 | September 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden 2008
Save America.
Save our planet.
Save yourself.

Posted by: allyourbasearebelongtous | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

desperate people do desperate things be ready Sarah youve got em going! mccain/palin 08

Posted by: james | September 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"The only people that I can tell will vote for him are the ultra-liberal wing-nuts, and those who'll cast their vote based on nothing but skin color."

I resent that. I'm neither ultra-liberal, much less a wing-nut. And I happen to be a white middle-class woman who wants to keep her rights.

The more I watch these blogs, the more I'm beginning to believe McCainites are either ultra conservative males wanting to keep women in their place (and don't hand me, "but we've selected a woman for VP. We Dems did it 24 yrs ago), or the under-educated. McCain is not change simply because he chose a woman to run with him. He's more of the same, and quite frankly I'd rather go with someone new, than someone who's just another W!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

She said what? She was a pit bull with lip stick?

This is serious she is trying to steal the Pet Owner Votes!

Democrats are courting all Republican and Independent Pet owners and their family. You heard right! Their Pets are their family too!

We will not concede Talking Dog fans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCYaw5tGYAs


We will not concede Funny Cat fans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTasT5h0LEg


Change we can believe in

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Yeil Raven | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

This is the new role model for women? Why? I will not raise my daughter to be like her. I'll also teach my daughter about sex ed, and science.

Obama's worst case scenario means that nothing gets done. A better case scenario looks pretty darn good.

McCain's worst scenario is downright frightening, his best case scenario doesn't help 90% of Americans.

The choice is simple.

Posted by: Brad | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

This is what Palin want to teach in our public schools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPYuo12hY4

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

to ccobb: WOW - you are the finest example of rude trailer trash on these pages. It seems to me that if were to take IQ test, you would owe points. I am glad you will not vote for McCain. He'd be ashamed to owe his presidency to trash like you. have a good life!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Anybody with eyes can see that Obama has nothing with regard to experience, or leadership. He is of questionable character and is driven by glitz and glam!

The only people that I can tell will vote for him are the ultra-liberal wing-nuts, and those who'll cast their vote based on nothing but skin color.

The party moderates and conservatives are taking a stand against the DNC and THEIR candidate (not ours), by joining and becoming....what was that it that the dems referred to Governor Palin as.....oh yeah, 'cheerleaders' for the opposition!! Rah Rah!

Women for America!!!

McCain/Palin 2008!

Posted by: Roni | September 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Anybody with eyes can see that Obama has nothing with regard to experience, or leadership. He is of questionable character and is driven by glitz and glam!

The only people that I can tell will vote for him are the ultra-liberal wing-nuts, and those who'll cast their vote based on nothing but skin color.

The party moderates and conservatives are taking a stand against the DNC and THEIR candidate (not ours), by joining and becoming....what was that it that the dems referred to Governor Palin as.....oh yeah, 'cheerleaders' for the opposition!! Rah Rah!

Women for America!!!

McCain/Palin 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: StoptheInsanity | September 4, 2008 1:33 PM

"This is so rediculous for republicant party! Sarah Palin seems like a play boy movies. It's an act of republicant party are creating right now. McCain chose her because she is so good in sucking dick in the oval office when his wife is not around. Can they choose a VP better than Sarah Palin?"

Funny coming from the supporters of the party that brought us "I did not have relations with that woman".


Posted by: rememberyourherobill | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with Alice. I've noticed that the majority of Democrats blogging tend to give very well thought out opinions without a great deal of name calling. Not so the Republicans. Most are extremely nasty and big on name calling. Just like their Republican politicos. Why can't the Republicans stick with the issues, instead of making everything into personal attacks? We all want wants best for the country, and since we are Americans, we have the right to different points of views. Unfortunately, there are some who prefer to make it personal instead of political. Frankly, I don't think the Republicans have grown up past their pubescent male strutting..."I'm better than you are! nahnahnahnah!" GROW UP ALREADY!!

Posted by: reen32359 | September 4, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It was a great night- Palin united the democrats and independents against McCain and his out of touch, far right wing policies.

No abortion- even in cases of rape and incest? No sex-ed - even when we all know that abstinence works until teens are alone on a couch watching some trashy cable re-run? Global warming isn't manmade - even when Big Oil uses science to determine where to drill and people use science to protect their health, we shouldn't use science to protect the planet?

Out of touch. Extreme.... It was a great night for Obama and Biden. The independents are easy pickings now.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would be a true nightmare in the Whitehouse - all I saw last night was a nasty, vindicative, smear-tactic b***h who probably lost 200,000 women votes from her sheer pettiness and shallow criticism of Democratics - no talk about healthcare, jobs, security, deficits, the environment, etc. Bottomline - a third rate Barby Doll with a bad haircut. Not a VP

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Classic case of the C- students leading/hiring the A+ students.

Bush was a prime example of this and look where it got us.

More of the same with McCain.

Be the change.
Vote for Obama.

Posted by: StoptheInsanity | September 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

This is so rediculous for republicant party! Sarah Palin seems like a play boy movies. It's an act of republicant party are creating right now. McCain chose her because she is so good in sucking dick in the oval office when his wife is not around. Can they choose a VP better than Sarah Palin?

Posted by: Rick | September 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Yo Alice, then go back to Wonderland, where your boy Obama rules over all his misguided subjects!

Posted by: Anon | September 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm an American who has been living outside the country for over 10 years. Since Sarah Palin was chosen as the V.P. candidate, I've been spending a lot of time reading the different forums. As far as I can tell, the biggest differences between the two parties are 1) Republicans are meaner 2) more vulgar and 3) don't know how to spell.

Posted by: Alice | September 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter. Before last night I had plans to hold my noise and vote for McCain. But now, I can't imagine putting that trailer trash in the White House. No Way, No How, No Palin!

Posted by: ccobb | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

throw that resume out, we don't need no fancy education thingy messin things up.

let's defeat evil!
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jesus, if he were real, would be appalled. i've read the bible, the current interpretation is laughable. ignorant fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Funny funny lady; a great jokester, but running the country? Not my vote and I'm a registered Republican.

Posted by: Not This Time | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

This is what Palin wants to teach in our public schools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPYuo12hY4

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but the academic halls don't appear to be very liberal to me. What used to be a place for alternative viewpoints is now just a place to make sure everything in oh so politically correct! Because the mighty academic halls don't want to alienate anyone, so they can continue to bring in the bucks. Still, an advanced degree would certainly give her much more credibility. Facts to support her claims work much better than shooting from the hip, only to find out later you shot the golden calf!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: If you're declaring that as more than just a knee-jerk, then godspeed; I'm glad you've found what you need.

As for me, the GOP hasn't shown me much that's high-minded or uplifting--not over the last eight years and certainly not now--and I wish better for my family, friends, community and country. My vote will reflect that.

Posted by: WOBG | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah being educated is a problem...especially if you are going to be a leader of the free world.

Might I suggest at M.A. in oh I don't know INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS or LAW.

All shine no substance. Get Real.

"She needs an advanced degree to have any credibility with me"

You gotta be kidding. It's the liberal academic halls that are the root of most problems today! Palin is the CHANGE we need!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

betty:
"WE NEED CHANGE--GO DEMOCRATS."

op cit.
Obama would need a CHANGE of drawers if
McCain took him up in a fighter plane.


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Posted by: Billw | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM
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I would need a "change of drawers" to if McCain took me up in a fighter plane...considering he crashed 5 of them things.

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Here is the pdf with the details about Palin's record

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_palin_doc.html

Posted by: fonkyou | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Oh Mighty Obama! I would contribute to your campaign with pleasure but I am running out of change. Besides, I have to save all my change for the very questionable future. When you'll become my president and raise my taxes and make me pay for Tyrone's or Jose's insurance and create minimum wage jobs that only illegals will take, I will need every cent to support myself and my family.
On the other hand, I think I'll vote Republican and leave the DEMS 4 DUMMIES

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"She needs an advanced degree to have any credibility with me"

You gotta be kidding. It's the liberal academic halls that are the root of most problems today! Palin is the CHANGE we need!


Posted by: Anon | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

betty:
"WE NEED CHANGE--GO DEMOCRATS."

op cit.
Obama would need a CHANGE of drawers if
McCain took him up in a fighter plane.
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Given the number of planes he's crashed, that would be true for anyone.


Posted by: Right Back At You | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

As a woman, I do find it refreshing that a woman may be the next VP. However, though she proves to be a decent speaker, I am afraid Palin would amount to an environmental nightmare. Alaskans may prefer to receive checks cut by the big oil companies, but I for one would rather see the Alaskan wilderness stay wild. I live on the west coast and I cringe at the thought of offshore oil drilling. Oil is a finite resource, no matter what country it comes from. While Obama's energy plan isn't perfect, he is at least on the right track. This planet will run out of oil within my and many of your lifetimes....the focus needs to be on NEW and ALTERNATIVE energy! Drilling for oil isn't the answer. I refuse to vote for a woman who has her priorities so backwards. Obama has my vote and he WILL win!

Posted by: IVOTE | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speach lacked facts and substance. We need to know what this woman's real record is in Alaska and not be sidetracked by her whinning that she's "just a hockey mom being attacked by the media." Come on, she was all for the bridge to nowhere and worked closely with Ted Stevens until she had to change her position as Congress changed over.

Posted by: Carlin | September 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

She needs an advanced degree to have any credibility with me. Period.

Go and look at picture of the mayor's office in Alaska--and now wants to be a stand in for leader of the free world!

Putin, Chavez, Mugabe anyone with a world perspective knows this woman is no position to take them on.

I've been to more countries than this woman by age 18.

P.S. On behalf of every person who has dedicated their life to community service I am insulted.

Posted by: What? | September 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"True desperation." I love it. The Republican party is weaker than it has been in half a century, and for once, the Democrats are pretty well organized by comparison. Both halls of Congress are blue and going bluer...

Whilst water fills your mouth, you insist the Democratic vessel is sinking.

Posted by: BertinDC | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I was revolted by Sara Palin's speach. She describes herself as a pitbull in lipstick and I think that after last night's speach, that is an accurate description of her. McCain's selection of this woman is the most cynical thing I have seen in politics for years. Palin is nothing but a strident, mean spirited woman with little real experince on national issues. She whines that the media is attacking her simply when questions about her real record in Alaska and her extreamist views.

Posted by: Carlin | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

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betty:
"WE NEED CHANGE--GO DEMOCRATS."

op cit.
Obama would need a CHANGE of drawers if
McCain took him up in a fighter plane.


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Posted by: Billw | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Hate to rain on you delusional Republicans about your "hot vice president from the cool state". Here is a report from NPR on her "pork" project:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94266091

Shame on her!


Posted by: A.L. | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

bottom line, a month ago she didn't know what the VP even does...She actually said it on television, that is a riot...Her speech was non stop slams and a few good jokes about Obama, but little more... I am a republican turned independent but there is no way I am voting for four more years of Bush/Cheney, and that is what Palin showed me was coming last night. Iraq being a "task from God", why don't we just call it the crusades... They enjoyed mentioning she has more executive experience than the entire Democratic ticket, no crap sherlock...She has more than McCain also... The three other players in this election are legislators, with national experience, and understanding of the law, and foreign policy experience, and they all had their passports before last year. Giuliani touted executive experience but then asked us to elect a president without any?? I am confused, or maybe they expected me to forget that McCain is at the top of the ticket...

There are more people in Austin, Texas than in Alaska, and while getting rid of the government jet is admirable, it doesn't make you qualified to be a funeral away from being the leader of the free world...

She has no foreign policy credentials, and I haven't even seen much to suggest she has energy credentials, other than the fact that she comes from an energy state, and has been there governor for a year and a half... So she was the governor while a deal went through about a pipeline, that particular deal has been in the works since way before she became governor... I'll take nearly a dozen years of experience on the state and federal level combined with a Harvard law degree over a year and a half at the state level with the number of citizens of a small large town, combined with a few years as a part time mayor of a town i have visited that is little more than a bedroom community for Anchorage(not to mention she couldn't even balance the budget there)...Throw in a communications degree and no real experience other than the last year and a half, and there you have it. I'm not surprised she can deliver a speech, and I am not surprised the Bush's speechwriters would fill her speech with the same useless attacks based on lies and exaggerations. I am surprised that I started yesterday with at least a very minute hope that Palin could give me some faith in their ability to bring about change, I heard nothing that would lead me to their cause. I am more turned off by the divisive message the entire convention has sent, they forget that if they are blessed with a victory in two months, the "angry left" will still be here, and so will those of us that disagree on some things and aren't so far to the left... This republican turned independent will vote for Obama/Biden, at least they will act like they are going to attempt to change things...

I also love that Giuliani once again politicizes 9/11...he is still a noun, a verb, and 9/11, as McCain has become a noun,verb, and POW...they tout that under a republican administration there has been no attack since 9/11 on US soil, guess what, there weren't similar attacks before 9/11 on US soil, they happened on Bush's watch. And we are supposed to throw our support behind them because we haven't had another yet, like somehow magically we are supposed to expect 9/11 style attacks to come every anniversary and then throw more power at anyone that can magically prevent them... They are doing what is expected, and what any president would be expected to do, the only difference is a terrorist attack actually slipped through on his watch... We will have more terrorist attacks, and someday 9/11 may seem like a fairy tale compared with what we get, but the fact that we haven't had one in almost seven years doesn't erase the fact that we weren't protected when we needed it then. It isn't like they have been protecting us vigilantly from the terrorist attacks that had become so commonplace the last several presidential cycles... If i took a job running a business, lost a billion dollar deal that went along way toward devastating the company, then the next seven years i didn't blow any more billion dollar deals, am I a success or a failure...(not really even a fair comparison as 9/11 was way worse than that, but you get the point)...

Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Roni, if she's rallying you to the GOP, then you really aren't a Hillary supporter. Palin is everything that Hillary is against! It's obvious you're doing exactly what the GOP hoped for, when they picked Palin. You don't care about the issues. You just want a woman in. How pathetic!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

In Response to Roni's comment at 12:23 p.m.:

The Obama campaign has done NOTHING to attack or in any way put down Palin's family situation. Obama is the one that says "families are off limits." He also was quick to point out that his own mother was a teen mom.

The Obama campaign has not attacked Palin's family or daughter one bit. Obama has not said anything mean or negative. Biden has not said anything mean or negative. Nobody has. I don't know where on earth "Roni" has gotten this idea.

I suspect "Roni" is actually a McCain supporter posing as a "disgruntled democrat."

That's just silly.

Posted by: Wes B. | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

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Obama can't be trusted, he's a self-serving gasbag. Like Rudy said "Biden should get that VP thing in writing".

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Posted by: Billw | September 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the new Madison Avenue generated Barack Obama and a pig? ...Lipstick!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

You Obama people really are in a spin over Governor Palin aren't you? You know she's a threat to the Great Obama! You know she's rallying Hillary supporters (including me) to the McCain ticket, and you don't know how to stop it! Its making you all crazy...as if you needed help with that!

The Obama campaign have referred to Hillary supporters as old, unintelligent, uneducated, and racists...now they expect our votes? How completely laughable!

True desperation is showing itself in the eyes of the Obama campaign! The Great Obama is about to fall!

Posted by: Roni | September 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

OK Obama,Biden it is time to quit being nice guys and to sart fighting back.
WE NEED CHANGE--GO DEMOCRATS. Plin sounded like a spoiled, know-it-all brat to me.

Posted by: betty | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

WOBG:

From my "heart of hearts" I'm voting McCain-Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

My most vivid impression of the night was how old McCain looked when he was onstage with the Palin family after the speech. He's a tough guy, but the presidency is a tough job. That image leaves a big question mark in my mind about this ticket.

Posted by: Joe | September 4, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

John Armstrong:

She didn't "mock" his community organization. She simply pointed out the FACT that being mayor and Governor = community organizer WITH RESPONSIBILITY. Admit it, you wouldn't have voted for McCain even if he picked a pro-choice Democrat as VP.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I've watched both conventions so far. Both have been hard hitting, but there's a clear difference in tone: high-minded and uplifting, versus sarcastic and mean-spirited.

I know which tone I wish for my family, my friends, my America. In your heart of hearts, so do you.

Posted by: WOBG | September 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

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Billy:
"It was the same ole stuff from the GOP. We're patriots, you're not."

The truth does indeed endure. Obama is pals with or abides Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Auchi, Flagler, and Farrahkan (terrorists, anti-Americans, and crackpots).

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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Billy, I love the USA, am a patriot and a Democrat. I'm also a Christian, and work hard. What right do you have to say only the GOP love this country, work and love God?! No wonder there's so much partisanship, when there are people like you around.

Posted by: reen32359 | September 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Great Speech? Are you kidding. I could care less how cute her family is. My religious views are my own. I'm sick and tired of these right wing kooks looking down on anyone who hasn't drunk the kool aid.

She mocked Obama's community work. Sorry he isn't as greedy as most Repubs'. After all, all they really are are the party of hubris, greed, lies, and corruption.

How much more of this can our country withstand?

Posted by: John Armstrong | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM

When did Obama allow attacks against Governor Palin's daughter? How about when he allowed his campaign staffer to leak information about her daughter being the mother of the special needs child? Or, how about the next day when that campaign staffer learned the daughter was pregnant? (Which, by the way, nullified the story from the previous day).

Obama's lucky he didn't come after my kids! I'd have stuck that idiot back into the hole he crawled out of!

Posted by: Roni | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

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"I support Barak Obama because his version of America is the one I would choose to live in."

Sounds like you'd approve of Obama, Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Auchi, Flagler, and Farrahkan (terrorists, anti-Americans, and crockpots).

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Posted by: Billw | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

What you can say?? It was the same ole stuff from the GOP. We're patriots, you're not. We work, you don't. We are the party of god, you're not. We don't like terrorists, you do. We serve in the military, you don't.

Wanna see the REAL bridge to nowhere?

http://s418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/spookyvid/?action=view¤t=BridgeToNowere.jpg

Posted by: Billy | September 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

for true palin supporters, please visit:
palinslist.org

Posted by: palin fan | September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I agree.
THIS WAS NOT A POLICY SPEECH. But Obama's was. She has 2 months to win over the people so she has no time to use her family and hockey mom techniques and smart divisive so called jokes. We need to get to the real issues to what she can do for the middle class and poor. I have NOT heard that in her speech or in anybodys speech besides OBAMA's. The Republican ticket is OUT OF TOUCH with the majority of it's AMERICAN CITIZENS. Oh yea and Guliani and MCCain we are not all Georgians (Russian citizens).

Posted by: MayDay | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Kathy, what are you talking about "you liberals not giving a woman her due"? Women's rights are considered liberal. It's the right-wing conservatives who want to keep the women in their place under the glass ceiling. Just because they picked a woman VP candidate doesn't make them pro-women. It makes them desperate! And vindictive, sarcastic speeches do not a strong woman make. Just in case you're wondering, I happen to be a middle class mother of two boys and proud to be a moderate Democrat!

Posted by: reen32359 | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Roni - you too are a blurry-eyed fool. When did Obama attack Palin on the motherhood issue? WHEN?

Any Palin attacks are based on the fact that she is a shallow figure, politically, and they are justified.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

One way for the Obama/Biden ticket to win is to not demonize Sarah Palin. She has a compelling personal story that the McCain campaign wants to push, but unlike McCain campaign advisor Rick Davis said, this campaign is about the issues!

Palin is a shooting star within the Republican party but once her policies and positions are known many Independents and conservative Democrats, McCain will lose their support, if he had any.

With Dick Cheney in Georgia (the one in Europe) defending the Georgians against the Russians, can Americans see Sarah Palin in this same role as ooposed to Biden?

Short answer: HELL NO.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Wait for the debate with no script, no speechwriters, no coaching.
A show of depth and presidential capacity? No way.

Posted by: RABO | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are, in many cases, hypocrites! Yes, Sarah Palin is beautiful, charming, feisty, perhaps a good mother and grandmother to be, but "reformist" NOT! She will take all the women's right away from women of this modern time. She's anti women's right to chose, she's anti deadly gun control, she's anti peace, she's anti environment.... SERIOUSLY... is this someone you want to take this country to the next decade??? On top of that, she's a Christian Fundamentalist, where is our Constitution of "Separation of Church and State"? If they get elected again this November, our country will definitely lose all respect from other nations. No wonder Iran doesn't give a crap about Bush and McCain's "tough talk"! And neither is Russia! Wake up Americans!

Posted by: A.L. | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

In her speech she talked about " [the]hardest [workers] in America ... who grow our food, run our factories, and fight our wars..."
Yes, the illegal farm workers who can't vote; the out of work factory workers, victims of outsourcing; the soldiars who overwhelemingly support Obama.

Posted by: franglais | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god… This war is not “Gods Will” its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
“What you see in a terrorist — that’s called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what’s going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. … We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. … Jesus called us to die. You’re worried about getting hurt? He’s called us to die. Listen, you know we can’t even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. … I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say “war mode.”"

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

For 30 years, I've believed that I belonged to a liberal minded, forward thinking, progressive party. What I’m learning about my own party during this election campaign is disturbing on many levels.

During their convention, Barack, Michelle, and Joe spoke of Hillary’s accomplishments, and the 18,000,000 cracks she put in the glass ceiling. With their attacks against Sarah Palin and her daughter, they’ve shown that their words were just words….just lip service.

I can understand if they attacked Sarah Palin on her accomplishments and failures. But that’s not what’s happening. They’re going after her as a mother, and they’re going after her teenage daughter. I find that totally and completely despicable!

Nobody questioned whether Joe Biden should take the position of Senator when his wife and child were killed and his sons were lying in their hospital beds. Rather, they swore him in at their bedside. Surely, those children would have benefited by their remaining parent becoming a full-time parent; especially, considering their loss and their injuries. Why is he glamorized for his service during such a critical time in his life, but Sarah Palin is demonized for not staying home with her children?

Regarding Sarah’s daughter, the thought that this is an Obama campaign generated…media perpetuated attack against a teenager, is something I find offensive and totally outrageous. As a mother, I’d fight to the death to protect my child from the sleazy people who are feeding off this garbage. What Obama and his staffers have done to this young lady is despicable!!!!!

Why is it that nobody questions the fact that Barack Obama’s mother also was 17 when she was pregnant (by a married man), and chose to marry the father, rather than abort? Have we really become so focused on our own agendas that we allow attacks on teenagers who are not involved in the political process? Have we become so filled with self righteous indignation that we allow ourselves to buy into this crap?

Geraldine Ferraro must be puking! To think that her party…the same party who asked people to judge her on her merit, character and experience, would launch this sexist attack against another woman must make her regret the day she ever joined the party. We need to tell party leaders on both sides that these attacks against women are part of the good ol boy network of cheap shots, and that we will not tolerate them!!!!!

We need to also begin boycotting the media personalities and networks who participate in ‘gotya’ or soap opera style gossip news. By perpetuating unconfirmed, unsubstantiated stories for ratings purposes, they are contributing to sexism and gender bias in our country. Shame on them!

During Governor Palin's speech last night, I found that most women relate to her on many levels. I believe she'll rally voters who are disgusted with the Obama choice, and the campaign frauds who support him, to the McCain/Palin ticket.

The DNC has only themselves to blame for splitting the party by attacking Hillary, stealing votes from Florida and Michigan and giving them to Obama. They have presented this disgusting man, Barack Obama, as the man to represent us. Its clear, he does not. And, although we will unite, it will not be behind them or their candidate!

Posted by: Roni | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

"TO JAKED"

I'm retired, so I have plenty of time to waste here.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Kathy for president!!!

Posted by: Natasha | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Watching Palin's acceptance speech was like watching Cheney in drag. The only difference was the skirt. Otherwise, she delivered the same old condescending vitriol typical of the current administration.

Long on rhetoric and falsehoods, short on substance. Nice pick, John!

Posted by: RABO | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Last night, Sarah Palin and Rudolf Guiliani warned the American people that Obama's "big government" would equate to Big Brother. This coming from the party of extraordinary rendition and however many lost souls in Guantanimo Bay? This from the party that just last night said that suspected terrorists have no rights? Have they even read 1984?

Obama's "big government" would help provide health care to those who can't afford it right now. Obama's "big government" would strengthen services like Peace Corps and AmeriCorps, in which people serve our country without being trained to kill. Obama's "big government" would give ample funding to alternative energy research. And yes, this will all cost money. Tax-payer money. Obama will raise taxes... on the wealthiest citizens and corporations in the country. The hockey moms won't feel a thing.

Posted by: Winston Smith | September 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"Kathy, white "liberal" men are often married smart, strong women. We do our best to raise smart, strong women. What we are afraid of is angry, ill-informed people like you telling us what we are, when in fact, you don't know us. If you did, you would hold your tongue."

Posted by: BertinDC | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM

BertinDC,
You are just the condescending liberal white male I was speaking of. You end your smarmy double-speak by calling me ill-informed and suggesting I "hold my tongue."
I suggest that, like someone said before, you liberal men attacking Sarah Palin and her family need to put a hand on each cheek and try to pull your collective head from Obama's backside!
Go Sarah!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

"I support Barak Obama because his version of America is the one I would choose to live in."

Good, try Cuba or the emerging Socialist state of Venezuela then. You shouls love it there.

Posted by: MR | September 4, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

What I find most interesting about the Sarah Palin nomination is how the conservative propaganda machine has had to 180 their sentiments regarding women in powerful positions. Jon Steward did an excellent job on the Daily Show last night of skewering some of the Right's most outspoken critics of Hillary and women in general.

Honestly, don't you find it interesting how opportunistically traditional conservatives are jumping up on soap boxes in defense of women? I mean, are we all suffering from amnesia here? Does anyone remember the run up to the Democratic nomination? Some of the things I heard about Hillary coming from the Right were so far out there as to be considered not just sexist, but misogynistic. And now we have to listen to these crusty old white men and their doe-eyed, blonde trophies hoot and holler about how sexist the "liberal" media is being?

Wow. I mean, wow. If this flies, I'm leaving and I'm taking all my money with me--if the dollar is still worth anything by the time America's done be distracted by this circus!

Posted by: Jonathan | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Kathy, white "liberal" men are often married smart, strong women. We do our best to raise smart, strong women. What we are afraid of is angry, ill-informed people like you telling us what we are, when in fact, you don't know us. If you did, you would hold your tongue.

Posted by: BertinDC | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow that's a lot of comments, has anyone brought up her mind-numbing devotion to religion yet or the fact she also seems to hang out with a party, the AIP, that advocates seceeding(?) Alaska from the Union?

Yes because what we really need as a VP to an extreme old man who might kick off in the next 4 years is a ultra-religious zealot who likes the idea of our 50(51?) states becoming seperate. Go Team Republican!

Posted by: NekoChris | September 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse


In knocking the Pakistan /Afghanistan Al Quida about a bit: Bush probably lessened their will to try many more big attacks on he US I’ll grant that.

However this attack on the twin towers et al was a huge anomaly: 19 guys with box cutters causing so much damage is a once in a millennial kind of event.

I doubt they or any other low-tech warriors will ever draw that royal flush again.

So it was not Bush that saved us from a repeat attack It was the sheer improbability of such an event ever occurring again
I hear all these dummies say if we weren’t fighting them in Iraqi we would be fighting them here.
These middle easterners are not very serious militaries technically, how would they fight us here - would we let them by a box cutter factory.

Bushes Iraqi policy did nothing positive in protecting this country from anything.

If you think it did, try to envision a non-mystical or magically way it would be done. If you think you will fight them in the streets here: you must believe in the fairy tales of the medieval Muslims. Here comes Saladin Charging down the Capital mall on his white horses, swinging a golden scimitar. Woe I am very afraid.
LUX

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The creepy hitlerian gathering proudly showed
the unique talent that party has to be NASTY and pro genocides for profit. They found their perfect lying pittbull who lacks of class as they do: spiritual class.
Something Obama has and one reason why they envy and hate him: spiritual and physical elegance. The vulgarity of her speech and her opportunistic sarcasm with an artificially stuffed looking daughter on the backround and rumors of incestuous liasons inside the family, was a revolting spectacle to watch.
Women in the XX1 dont' want children to die in illegal wars. She does. The law is not what she is prone to respect rather abuse it hiding behind her PTA mom farce.
Truly revolting

Posted by: bluebird | September 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

To fiscal conservatives:

Ok, I listened to Palin and understand why the religious conservatives are for her, but she isn't a fiscal conservative. Her record is in having left her mayoral position with Wasilla in the red. As a politician she has pushed hard for ear marks, and she got a huge additional tax on the private oil companies drilling in Alaska. The lower 48 and oil revenues support the citizens of Alaska to the degree that they have no income tax levied and even get an annual payment from their state government.

So fiscal conservatives, aren't you tired of having the religious right in your party completely dominate you? They were the driving force behind getting Bush elected and he grew the federal government more than Clinton. The nation's finances are in a shambles because fiscal discipline is not a priority of the religious conservatives. Palin is a gift to them. How do you feel about that?

Posted by: Ben | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM

Well, there you go again, talking about the issues... That's not suitable for this discussion. What we need is more blind characterization and name-calling - a few more wingnuts and liberal libs and fascist pigs, and so on. That's the ticket!

Seriously, if this is what passes for political debate in this country, then we get the government that we deserve - absolute mediocre crap.

Posted by: schmuckatelli | September 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Well last night sold me - GO Palin/McCain! Why? I am sick of the endless leftist (note not necessarily democrat, but very much contributory) crazy, misogynist, doublestandard hate mongering (JakeD that would be you). Rip apart a 17 year old for making a misstep, but bury and hide Edwards love child, whose mother gets bought off with campaign funding? Nice.

Lol attack Palin for substance? (BTW if you listened it was there, alternative energy, prodrilling, low taxes, reduce government, proeducation, pro family, etc) While I have been waiting close to a year for subtance from both parties? Obama is just more an empty suit that delivers speaches well, should do Broadway and win a Tony, he does so well with prepared lines. Laughable.

Question for all of us, how many Rebublicans arrested at the DNC for assault? How many DNC delegates beaten? Or perhaps protesting in convention? Or cars or personal property or businesses destroyed? None that I saw, so why so acceptable at the RNC?

Lol squitnz:
"But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform - not even in the state senate." What, nuclear proliferation isn't "major"? Veterans aren't "major"? Ethics reform isn't "major"? Like Obama or no, it's a FLAT OUT LIE to claim he has no legislative accomplishments. "

Fluff policy plays against FORIEGN stock piles of shoulder mounted weapons (good luck with the russians & chinese on that) and funding bills do not make major REFORM or domestic LAW. There is a difference.

Posted by: Bill | September 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

White liberal men are mean and vindictive. You all know very well that Sarah Palin gave a great speech last night. You liberals never want to give a woman her due. You are afraid of strong women. White liberal males will win this election for McCain/Palin by waking the women of America from our long liberal slumber.
Go Sarah!!!

Posted by: Kathy | September 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

The Republican party in 2008 is a cobbled together mish-mosh of concerns. That's why McCain was forced to pick someone with whom he shares very little -- to appeal to the distant edge of the broad Republican spectrum.

Naturally, the party is in experiencing some schizophrenia -- voting with Bush for seven years, then disavowing him. For example, Romney arguing that McCain-Palin is a change.

Palin's speech was petty and pointed to the superficial, not the substantive. That's why it was effective with the base, and it makes sense that the campaign is being petulant and abrasive... as its their only chance of tripping up the Obama juggernaut.

My Republican friends... assuming McCain wins. That's the best case for you, and regardless of the presidential outcome. Congress will be a deep sea of blue -- ice-cold blue.

If he does not win, you and your party will be vivisected. The petulance now coming from Palin's mouth will turn inward. Be prepared for a long journey in the desert.

Posted by: BertinDC | September 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The bloggers complaining about the venom dumped on Palin by the Obamanites fail to acknowledge the same venom heaped on Obama by the Republicans. It seems to me that venom is venom, but to these bloggers it's worse if the venom is aimed at a woman.

I'm tired of everyone always referring to Democrats as liberal druggies. I don't consider myself liberal, but moderate. I've never done drugs, nor do I wish them legalized. BUT...anyone who can look at where this country has gone is the last 8 years under Bush and not see that it's in much worse shape is nothing but an ostrich with its head in the sand. Wake up!! We can't take more of the same. I don't know if Obama is the answer, but McCain definitely isn't!

Posted by: reen32359 | September 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Ok, gotta get back to work now...GO OBAMA!

Posted by: Tom | September 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah gave a speech befitting any great speaker from the Bush/Rove/Cheney wing of the Republican party.

Pat Buchanan got it right last night: Palin's "savage and feral" attacks were the first shot in the "new culture war."

Sarah's here to divide us, spew hatred, and confuse the issues.

I see the same old tired (Republican) PUMA's out today extolling Sarah's feminists victory. I suggest you read Gloria Steinham's article in the L.A. Times today. She suggests that women who falls for Sarah as a feminist don't have a clue.

For Biden, I suggest you treat Palin as an absolute equal - then tear her to shreds. Hiding behind her family is now out of bounds.

Posted by: Kim | September 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

It makes me sad to see so many people throwing the words liberal and concervative around as insults, and repeating party talking points on both sides. Why does one side have to be right and the other have to be wrong, stupid, evil, or foolish? I support Barak Obama because his version of America is the one I would choose to live in. This is my opinion, and one that is thankfully shared by the majority of Americans. Our country has too many people who are convinced that their opinions are facts and those who disagree are of less value than themselves.

Posted by: grandaustino | September 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

JAKE-D IS A TOOL!!!!

Posted by: MIKE | September 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

right wing nuts with their undies all in a bind... just gotta love it!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

JAKE-D IS A TOOL!!!!

Posted by: MIKE | September 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

mo wrote:

The Speech to Nowhere
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The Road to Nowhere, he never knows where he's been, never knows where he's going.

So, you know, we put him in charge.

One has to ask "why?"

Posted by: maby | September 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

JakeD...you can call him Barack SATAN Obama for all i care...he'll be your next President!! get back to work anyway, you're the reason this economy sucks! Before you comment, i own a company, i make my own rules!!

Tom:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM

Posted by: TO JAKED | September 4, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama - ties to left wing terror nut, racist pastor --> little mention in the news.

Palin - doesn't abort her last child (knowing of special need). Media crucifies her.

I say...no problem. She can take it...and help win it for McCain.


Posted by: surething | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM

____________________

Do you really believe what you wrote? Have you had your head in the sand? Obama's relationship with his pastor DOMINATED news for weeks on end! And I have not heard one person "crucify" Palin over not aborting her special needs child. She is considered a "hero" of the religious conservatives for doing that and even pro-choice advocates have admired her for that.

She may be a nice person and a tough woman in politics...but she has little experience -which is what McCain has complained about Obama the most! It's shameful the way McCain chose her mostly to try to appeal to women voters! She has little experience in the least populated state (the whole state has a population 656,424 according to Wikipedia - I live in a suburb of Dallas that a population of 250,000 and Dallas has a population of 1,232,940! That is just one city!) She was associated with an organization that was trying to get Alaska to "succeed from the union". So much for the UNITED States of America.

And, when Obama attacks McCain it is on issues, not the bs that the McCain camp has. And I'm tired of McCain lying about Obama raising taxes for lower-middle income. Everyone knows it is a lie and the lie has been confirmed by almost everyone (factcheck.org, financial experts, etc.). If he can't run an honest campaign then how can he honestly run the country?

Posted by: swimtgoode | September 4, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I have enjoyed listening to and watching the Democrats and liberal media attack women and children this week. It is good that more people understand who they are and how they work together.
Go Sarah!!!

Posted by: Mary | September 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Susan Eisenhower: Barack is the best choice (CNN Interview)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Kmsv8-Jzk&feature=related

When Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter Susan said "Yes we can!" over 84,000 supporters at the Democrat Convention cheered her on and yelled "Yes we can!"

My Favorite Eisenhower Story From Wikipedia. Dwight could have been a Professional Football player?

At West Point, Eisenhower made the football team. He started as a varsity running back and linebacker in 1912. In a bit of a fabled match-up, he even tackled the legendary Jim Thorpe in a 1912 game.

Obamacans for Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Republican Football Fan | September 4, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm Hillary's supporter going to vote for McCain/Palin.

The Liberal men/women in this blog are the Jane Fonda and John Kerry, Communist's kisser.

Posted by: Beatrice | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

The Speech to Nowhere

Posted by: Mo | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

democrats aren't scared, uptight or any other words you want to use..just pointing out that she has no experience, you know like Righties said about Obama?? We are very comfortable in knowing McSame and Palin don't have a chance in hell in winning!

Posted by: NOT A CHANCE | September 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I love politics. Most of the comments here seem so blinded by stereotyping liberals and conservatives (however true they may be in some cases) and name calling. The beauty of it is that you all do the same damn thing but are convinced that you don't. November 4, welcome the new boss...same as the old boss. Speeches are great, solutions are even greater. Right now the majority of what both sides seem to be focused on is some mud-slinging and 'we need to/I pledge to solve(insert perceived problem here)'....and not actually telling you too much about either how they will do it, or the reality behind their pledges to throw $x billion dollars into the problem. As with life, money can solve some things, but generally it's the means to propel an idea or solution, concrete ones of which these politicians seem to have.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It shouldn’t be a surprise or a shook to anyone; this is what you expect from the same aged politics.

Senator Hilary Clinton didn’t come to Washington with Miss Congeniality on her resume; she came with proposals and an agenda. She didn’t take the elevator to the penthouse to crack the “glass ceiling”, she climbed each step with determination, pain, and a commitment to change American possibilities. She didn’t get a pat on the back promotion to the top, she got there in a fair fight that at times was grueling and difficult…and you know what, I think she kinda wanted it that way. She will not make it into our history books as the first, fast track, overnight, success into the finish, but she carved a remarkable legacy from the starting line to the last stretch. And for that, I will always be proud of her achievements.

Senator Mcain still does not “get it”. This is not a popularity contest for homecoming king and queen. This is a Presidential Election for the United States of America . This isn’t about winning the election; it is about changing the future of a Powerful Nation.

Posted by: J | September 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Tom:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

GO! GO! LIBERALS! Tear that woman down!

Micheal Moore won the election for Bush. Now the sexist left and their nonstop vile attacks on Sarah is going to win the election for McCain.

Liberals just don't get it. America doesn't like you.

Posted by: julie | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Palin's speech last night was sarcastic, divisive, shallow and mean spirited.

Yeah, that's what we need running this country in a world about to blow up...a rabid pitbull.

Posted by: icarus | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

mountainman:

That was another fake JakeD at 9:34 AM -- I have never said anything like that -- I would bet that she reads the Bible more than you do though.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

What do you mean "great night" you mean "GOOD NIGHT" McSame Palin have no chance!!

Posted by: Tom | September 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey, John, I'm part of the left, and I'm not outraged at all. This election is a heck of a lot more fun than the last one, where the Dems picked a rubber mortician as their candidate. I'm sure Sarah Palin appeals to the right wing of the Republican Party, although I thought the cw strategy was to attract the independents, but oh well. For sure they needed someone with some charisma and speaking ability to make up for McCain. I think they went overboard in that direction with Palin, picking someone with charisma and speaking ability and not much else, and they're going to regret it. We'll just have to wait and see.

Posted by: nazcalito | September 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

OK -- I came out of retirement because I think the Washington Post needs a staffer to monitor anyone claiming to be "JakeD" or any derivation therof, especially after this comment:
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"Sarah Palin may give a great speech, but America.....do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?"
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See, I don't know if the real JakeD said that or not. This looks like someone trying to fan flames and produce a lot of high dudgeon -- Republicans, just like the white men who burned women at the stake in the 1600s, are easily inflamed by the "liberal media"'s attacks and tend to respond with over-the-top rhetoric. Or maybe this is just all a part of Rove's plan.

Sarah Palin, please read the Bible -- you should be advocating for poor people the world over, not just in the "USofA" -- what would Jesus do? He would definitely not vote for the husband of a beer magnate from Arizona. He would not want you to force your eldest daughter raise your chosen newborn son while you campaign, and then force her to go through a second humiliation of disclosing her pregnancy to an 18 year old redneck, and then force the kid to fly from Alaska to St. Paul to kiss your a$%. Please, Sarah Palin, go back and read the Bible about what Jesus would do right now -- you never know, when you get to heaven, you might be surprised that you are one of the goats, not one of the sheep.

Posted by: mountainman | September 4, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The Democraps sure are lickin' their wounds here today.

Posted by: MP8 | September 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I don't have time to read all of the comments here, and I'm sure a number are very good and thought provoking. However, a good number also show a shocking, but all too typical misunderstanding of our country's history and what is going on in the world. Anyone who thinks that "things" will radically change with either Obama or McSame is sadly misinformed and confused. Our country's policy's, both foreign and domestic, are dictated by corporate interests. We might get a slightly softer touch with democrats but the overall agenda stays the same. Anyone trying to do anything outside of a carefully monitored band of acceptable behavior will be quickly stifled. Sorry folks, it will take more than a carpet-bagger, a hockey mom, an idealistic lawyer or a "good guy" but still a lifer in DC to turn this Titanic.

Posted by: Brooksie | September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

This election is a party-changer for me. My parents are Democrats but they are so discusted by the direction of the Democrat Party since Pelosi and Reid took over that they are voting McCain/Palin. I one-upped them. I'm changing political party and voting Republican.
Go Sarah!!!
PS: Loren for President!

Posted by: Mandy | September 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"Some use change to promote career and some use career to promote change"

that's not an intelligent statement, you blurry eyed fool. It's a tagline.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Palin totally turned me off last night by not providing a single credible solution to any of the massive problems facing this nation.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it interesting how BHO now has to run against both McCain and Palin? McCain only has to beat BHO... Just an observation.

Posted by: TS | September 4, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

ProudAngryLeftistFather wrote: "Barak Obama led one of the most successful voter registration drives in Chicago history. Many more citizens were (probably) enfranchised than the entire town of Wassilla"

Ah yes...Chicago politics. Has such a great reputation, doesn't it? Wonder how much "walking around money" he was given to buy all those Dem votes?

Obama is being revealed for the empty suit he really is...and the MSM are being exposed for their outright bias toward him. They created him, after all...and their creation is going to lose in November. Real mainstream Americans are tired of the BS.

Posted by: NObama | September 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Advice to Biden

- Her voice is annoying. You have a better one use it wisely. Do not be drawn in by her baiting. Pause for at least 2 seconds before answering her attacks. Your a Senator!

-Avoid talking about her looks. Voters are not shopping for a product we don't need. Stick to the issues – Economy, Health care, Energy, Iraq and more. Don't yell like Rudy in the debate – anther annoying voice.


Posted by: John Jr. | September 4, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Palin is worse than George W.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary had spoken the same speech (Republicanisms changed to Democrat-isms, of course), everyone would have talked about how exhilarating a speech it was. Palin's a fighter and a leader. You're just pissed she's a Republican.

Posted by: Jordan Lewis | September 4, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

You can diffuse the real issues if you want by smearing a 17 year old but realize every time you do there is a mother and a daughter somewhere with a husband and father that will make you pay in November. This tact is making people see what true hypocrites you "open-minded" liberals are.

Besides trying to pull the same hatchet job on Sarah that you layed on Hillary, the incessant whining from the left is sooooooo predictable - 2000, 2004 and now in 2008 - makes me think the little hockey mom fit the moose antler right square in your *sses.

Got to absolutely love the analogy between "community organizer" and mayor. It does make you ponder - Exactly how big a budget does a "community organizer" manage? How many people are on the payroll of a "community organizer"? Do you have to punch a time clock or just hang out on the street comer when you're a "community organizer"? Is that what those guys are doing in the low income neighborhoods who hang out at the intersections? Hell, I thought they were all selling crack.

So we have Sarah Palin who has managed a city, a state, took on special interest, fought corruption AND raised a family. Can you please explain what Norealjobama has been doing with his Ivy League education besides cavorting with racists and communists and “organizing communities”?

Joe Biden saying someone delivered a speech without substance is like saying Pete Rose claims there gambling in baseball. What an imbecile!!! The only speech Biden ever delivered with substance was the one in which he was nailed for plagiarism.

To me, the only question that remains is how many times team Nojobama/Biden soiled their pants during her pasting of all things phony. Start brushing up on your “community organizer” skills Nojobama; it looks like you’ll be looking for work come November. “Work”- sorry, didn’t mean to offend any liberals out there. Please Sarah, nail their scrawny asses for every woman who has ever been minimized – including Hillary.

Posted by: Robert Campbell | September 4, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Most of the liberal men on this site are nasty little boys who despise strong women, not Sarah Palin's speech. These mean liberal wenies need to put a hand on each cheek and try to pull their collective head out of Obama's backside!
Go Sarah!!!

Posted by: Laren | September 4, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

So why not talk about that 17 year old that was pregnant whose "friend" ran away? Oh, that's Obama Mother? Never mind....

Posted by: Jim | September 4, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Now the race is where it should be. Palin vs. Obama.

And if you read all the Obamatrons' sick and perverted knee-jerk responses here...you can see why their man should be running scared.

Side note: Only a real New Yorker like Mayor Giuliani could kick Obama where the majority on the media have been licking him.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | September 4, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

That was the fake JakeD at 9:34 AM (keep it up though, because I get paid every time you post under my name ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Yes, she's good at reading sound bites written by someone else. Although I thought I heard her promise to "drill" more nuclear reactors. I guess she must have said "build." But she's only "impressive" in comparison to McCain and his greenboard speech about rehydrating instant babies with boiling water.

Posted by: nazcalito | September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani's disparaging sarcastic comments about Obama's work as a community organizer epitomize the disregard and outright hostility a majority of the Republican Party (apparently) hold for democracy. Barak Obama led one of the most successful voter registration drives in Chicago history. Many more citizens were (probably) enfranchised than the entire town of Wassilla - let alone the number of people it took to vote Palin into office. Compare this to the Republican record of voter intimidation, manipulation of the voting record and other efforts to seize power at all costs. Palin represents the wing of the Republican Party that has made a mockery of democracy and undermined the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for more than 20 years. It is the time (and the patriotic duty) of all Americans to (non-violently) confront and reject these people and their actions to undermine the Republic - with or without our own political leaders.

Posted by: ProudAngryLeftistFather | September 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Lets put it this way for you guys to understand. If you we trying to find a President to run your company. The 1st guy, knows the industry, knows the product, has a proven track record, been in the role before.
The 2nd guy, is a good motovater, knows about the product, knows some about the industry, but never been in the business, never led a company, dosen't really have a track record.

whom would you choose to run your company?

Posted by: Troy | September 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

The left is so in love with being angry that they need the GOP to win so they can continue to nurse their anger.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

A guy named Bob is considered by locals to be the mayor of the Wrigley field bleacher section. He drinks American beer, eats hot dogs and is anti-choice.

As there are more people in the Wrigley field bleachers than live in Wasilla, Alaska, I nominate Bob for VP.

Posted by: Angel | September 4, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

ISN'T IT IRONIC THAT IF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION had paid attention to what was happening in Minn. in the summer of 2001, maybe just maybe, we would not have to worry about more years in iraq and afghanistan. Vote independent, vote democratic, but for our sake, DO NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: lorac58 | September 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

The left is outraged . . . Y A W N . . . so what's new?

They don't like their false god made fun of?
Too bad, that's life.

But they especially don't like a woman to be so capable of dressing down the man. They call her names . . . better get ready to call her Madame Vice President.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"Name 3 intelligent things that she said, please."

One is enough.
Some use change to promote career and some use career to promote change.

Uncle Wright said, he speaks what he has to and I speak what I have to.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Listen Up! There are no Reagan Democrats. There never were any Reagan Democrats, and there never will be any Reagan Democrats. I am tired of this phrase being used. The Republicans started it and now even the moronic "main stream media" use it. No true democrat would have ever voted for that puppet. I remember him wanting to answer questions but his handlers would rush him away before he could make a fool of himself. I also remember David Stockman and ketchup and mustard being offer as vegetables for school lunch programs.

And Republicans can also stop dropping Great Democrats names as Sarah did with Harry Truman last night. Harry Truman said: "Mr. Barley and I are going to win in November and we are going to make the Republicans like it." Something else that Harry said that Sarha and the republican should understand "It's a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours." John McCain and Sarah Palin just don't get it!!

Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

You thought that Sarah Palin provided red meat for the Republicans. No she provided gloriously red meat for the Dems. I think she has really fired up the Democrats no one likes to be mocked and insulted, especially by someone who is proving to be about a vacuous as they come.

Posted by: nclwtk | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

ATL's Finest, your name is very misleading.
I can assure you that for many years I went to schools and worked 15-20 hrs a day to be blessed with only a tiny particle of the American Dream. Judging from your anger, for you, it will always remain dream. Get a life!
Vote GOP!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Ok libs, lets just look a what bush gave us:
Not one single us attack by terrorist since 9/11!
Well hell thats enough right there

Posted by: just old me | September 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

ATL's finest wrote:

I'm a dickweed.
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You are a Polish god.

Really.

I mean that in the best way.

Posted by: Maby Baby | September 4, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

This SPEECH took the wind out of Barack's sails and left a lot of the left gasping for air. Relax . . . b r e a t h e . . . that's it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm a dickweed.

Posted by: ATL's Finest | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Anon woke up, found he was still alive, stretched, belched and f+rted thus:

A LIberal Democrat morning:
1) Wake up, pinch themselves to see if it was all a dream last night.
2) Go check their stash of drugs to make sure it is still there.
3) Go online and say the most vicious things that come to their drug addled minds.

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Bad night?

Well, its pretty easy to see why this country is in a mess, these republican mo's think sloppy bickering represents the height of propaganda manipulation, the same old same old, absolutely NO CLUE as to any surrounding contingencies despite their continued losses, despite the country failing in the manner it is...

Same for their democratic counterparts, but, you know, the republicans are in the white house...

Again, why are Karl Rove's method's of propaganda considered genius, and why did Obama's group decide to follow this "genius," too?

All I see is a whole lotta stupid, scared and confused, unaware of it's own stench.

And it shows, doesnt it, in the results...

Posted by: maby baby | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I have never seen a political speech that causes so much buzz on one side and so much desperation on the other side. Wow! I love election 2008!

Posted by: Jeremy | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I just wish American politics would establish restrictions on "body slamming" opponents. If you could ask America what we're looking for, I bet we would all respond(regardless of party), less sob-stories, enough sarcasm, and just talk to us about WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO??!! I feel like I wasted my time last night. I walked away with almost nothing. I swear if the Republicans retell McCain's story one more time, I'm gonna lose it! Since when does suffering entitle you to the presidency? How does that grant you experience to become president? It's all the Republican's spew out. I didn't need to hear Palin humanize herself and her family. I don't think anyone ever thought she wasn't normal. Its sad really. American's love story time.

I also wouldn't mind a requirement that all speakers have to write their own speeches. We're just electing puppets. Whats the use.

Posted by: THeHumanDrift | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Just ask yourself one thing. If this country is doing so good, why is the value of the dollar so down?

Posted by: Stoned Bored | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

For you whiners:
THIS WAS NOT A POLICY SPEECH!!!

So stop whining about lack of details.
This was her 1st big public speech, Barack has had too many to count. This was her introduction speech, the policy details will come later. Geez, get real already, please.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

"If Biden didn't hear Palin mention the middle class, he must not have been listening.
Posted by: Margaret Leber | September 4, 2008 10:11 AM"

She DID NOT mention the middle class or the poor. She said the word ECONOMY just one time. She made misleading claims about Obama raising taxes. Both Obama and McCain propose tax cuts. McCain wants his tax cuts to go to the richest: people making over $603,000 per year (only 1% of the population) will see MASSIVE tax cuts. Obama's largest cuts will go to the poorest, and middle class: people making up to $66,000 per year. He'll cut taxes for people making up to $226,000 per year also. No change for people up $603,000. Here's where Obama WILL raise taxes: on the people McCain wants to give the largest tax break to.. the top 1%. Obama is going to hurt the economy by raising taxes on the wealthiest 1% of the taxpayers?? Who's side are the Republican's on? Country First? More like Rich People First. They don't want to help the poor or the middle class... they just want to scare them into voting for McCain. I hope people will see through the deception and elect Obama so we can finally get the economy back on track.

Here's the transcript of her speech:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26535811/

Posted by: Lenore C. | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Palin is entertaining. I don’t know whether she reminds me more of Kathy Bates or Roseanne Barr.

This is a question as to whether her underlying character is that of a "tell it like it is" earthy and nasty mouthed attack pit bull. Or whether she is a more of an apple pie seductive auntie tarantula

Ether way this kind of character joined together with fundamentalist religion blended with no particular interest, or concern for the world, the country or any thing more grandiose then her family and neighborhood is unsettling.

She’s dangerous: she’s a bit like George Bush in this way, but much more dangerous in that she lacks his slow Texas Horned Toad laziness.

So she cold create a lot more trouble for everyone a lot quicker. I see some queen of the underworld Madame dragon monster, emerging from the still warm body of the late President McCain.

Posted by: Lux lumana | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

As the parent of two children with autism I particularly resented Palin's appeal to the family's of children with special needs. How can a leader in a party that has overseen the consistent transfer of the country's wealth to it's richest citizens (and foreign powers)from the pockets of the middle class and poor claim to be an advocate for family's of people with special needs? Among the people worst hit by fiscal cutbacks and the devastation of the economy by the Republican Party over the past 25 years have been people with disabilities and their families. You want to be my family's advocate, Sarah? No thanks! (BTW - JakeD.. I'm not into political correctness, but 'retard' is sooo retro and Republican..)

Posted by: ProudAngryLeftistFather | September 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Name 3 intelligent things that she said, please.

Posted by: brad | September 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

When will you guys learn to judge someone based not on the party they represent, but on what they represent. Wolf Blitzer couldn't put it any better when he referred to Palin this AM - THE STAR IS BORN.
Get used to it folks - she is here to stay!

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

fedupwithdems thats mighty "old boy" white and American of you to say truly shows Americans don't support one another unless it's the Olympics or some other country is attacking us. You obviously don't know the struggle and before you say something else I do have a job and an education and I EARNED it and didn't need affirmative action to get it!! Ignorant F#%K!!!!

Posted by: ATL's Finest | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

>>Lefty-libs with their undies all in a bind... just gotta love it!

Hee hee hee hee hee hee.

Have some reality,

http://pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm#Gallup

I can't speak for anybody else on the left but it occurs to me Palin is beloved by the far right and no one else.
In the end, it comes down to McCain vs. Obama and I like that match up just fine. The past versus the future, I don't think it will be close.

Posted by: dijetlo | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Please vote Republican! My country has no oil so as long as McCain is president I can continue my reign of terror as he'll have nothing to gain from bringing me down, like Bush did Saddam!

Posted by: Robert Mugabe | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Will politicians ever learn to confine their debate to policies, and stop smearing their rivals? Statemanship requires way more than dirty tricks.

Posted by: galina | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a stateman. While he's always on the wrong side of the issues, I do respect he's been around a while.

But....

That doesn't say anything to the fact that Sarah Palin will eat him alive in a debate.

He's gonna cry about the need for more, bigger government.

She's gonna show him where here SOLUTIONS have resulted in major victories for the people of her state, and at lower cost.

She's gonna eat him alive. Call out all the left media...you'll need it.

Obama - ties to left wing terror nut, racist pastor --> little mention in the news.

Palin - doesn't abort her last child (knowing of special need). Media crucifies her.

I say...no problem. She can take it...and help win it for McCain.

Posted by: surething | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

You idiots who keep saying, "..they weren't her words, she just read them..." are sad. Do you really think Oncrack Obama's words are his own? Really? Without a teleprompter the man stumbles and says "uh" more than a high school kid in speech class, and if you think he writes his own speeches you are sadly mistaken. Wake-up or shut-up.

Posted by: theone | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

A LIberal Democrat morning:
1) Wake up, pinch themselves to see if it was all a dream last night.
2) Go check their stash of drugs to make sure it is still there.
3) Go online and say the most vicious things that come to their drug addled minds.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

EyesOpen - not KNOWN for any legislation? That's the same nonsense circluar logic Palin employed last night. Obama has worked as a legislator for ELEVEN years. In addition to his impressive state record, here are some of the highlights of his short national record:

Lugar-Obama Nonproliferation Legislation: http://obama.senate.gov/press/070111-lugar-obama_non/
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:s.2590.es:
Sheltering All Veterans Everywhere (SAVE) Act: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:s.1180:

Palin: "But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform - not even in the state senate." What, nuclear proliferation isn't "major"? Veterans aren't "major"? Ethics reform isn't "major"? Like Obama or no, it's a FLAT OUT LIE to claim he has no legislative accomplishments. Just because you are too lazy to read a newspaper doesn't mean the facts aren't out there.

Posted by: squitnz | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I am amazed at the number of Nannystate folks that comment on these blogs.

Nannystate = give me something for nothing.

Posted by: RTGreenwood | September 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Here's a news flash for Joe Biden: PALIN IS THE MIDDLE CLASS!

Posted by: Middle Class | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile on the other side of town, at the behest of the Republican Party the local sheriff 'pre-emptively' broke into the office of a citizen's journalist groups and arresting everyone they could find. Ditto for innocent attendees at a concert by a dissident rock band. Palin is just the flag on the mast. Hitler was elected, too.

Posted by: Angry Leftist Father | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Lefty-libs with their undies all in a bind... just gotta love it!
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Has to be difficult, walking around SO frightened, terrified, all the time, it's pretty easy to see through your mask.

Posted by: Moldy Oldie | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I think everyone is missing the points we as voters need to focus on. Look at the candidates from both sides and start asking real meaningful questions. Like:

Who can straighten out the mess from the previous president?

Who is really looking out for the good of the country and it's citizens.

Who is going to focus on real issues this country is facing today.

If all your looking for is someone that can attack another party and portray themselves as a pit bull (doesn't that sound like GW) or a maverick you have your answer. If your looking for someone that can deliver a good speach written by someone else you have your answer. if your looking for and believe that the Iraq war is a task from god then you have your answer. If your looking for someone that repeats that he was a POW in Vietnam over and over and over then you have your answer. The republicans have said nothing that would compell me to vote for them because they are so focused on making the democrats look bad and remember that's how GW won his elections that it is quite obvious it would be 4 more years of the same garbage. Who cares if Sarah Palin is a mother of 5 or her daughter is pregnant. Look at her experience and character. I am not sure how she can say Obama is inexperienced since she is also and to say that the Iraq war is a "task from god" is completely and utterly moronic.

If I have to pick someone that I think can lead us as a nation I will pick Obama. At least he has a plan of action once he gets to the oval office.

Vote your concience whatever that may be...

Posted by: Independent in PA | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

WHY WON'T SARAH PALIN SUBJECT TRIG TO A DNA TEST TO PROVE SHE IS THE REAL MOTHER???? If she is the mother, she has nothing to hide.

Posted by: playa | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't the DRNC just awesome?

And there is now a Mock Election poll every week at http://www.votenic.com . See who America thinks should become president.

Posted by: Brandon | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Good: Coachable, very well read, brilliantly scripted, I’d say she did a fantastic job of
Rallying the Republican Crowd up. Personal touch, I loved the feisty hockey
Moms analogy, a lot of women can relate to that, I can relate to her. Adorable kids.
No doubt she’s a great mom. Agrees with a lot of with the Obama Biden
team said about Washington.

Bad: Confrontational, offers sarcasm instead of solutions. Makes it clear,
She’s not an approachable person, might not be a team player in any corporation.
Works better as an individual if placed in the job pool. Perfect in running a State like Alaska, not a large nation. Shows good Administrative skills. I say let her get more seasoned, build up her chops in the Senate a few short years from now and I’d vote for her into a higher position. Not Executive material at this time.

Posted by: Nina | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

As a foreigner I cannot see how the US can fail to elect Obama. Surely the best way to protect your country would be to stop invading other countries and angering their population, inciting "terrorism". If the US wasn't so concerned with dominating other countries (particularly the oil rich ones) then it wouldn't have so many enemies. With the Second Cold War fast approaching (mainly due to Russia's discomfort with US foreign policy) electing McCain, if his policies are similar to those of Bush's, would put the whole world at risk of nuclear war again as well as creating more desperate foreign terrorists who have nothing more to lose.

If anyone disagrees with me there and says it won't escalate to that level then I ask you why bother to continue installing missile defence sites in Europe? To be fair, Russia (and China for that matter) have no reason to attack the US but all this aggressive posturing will give them more reason to.

Also by the sound of it this woman is a total hypocrite. Not that politics is short of them but she makes it far too obvious. Please don't elect her.

Another point. I've noticed a lot of Republican arguments on here are points made by Democrats turned around on them: "so's Obama!" Surely there are better arguments than that.

Posted by: butch | September 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I thought her speech was hilarious! It was not any more devisive than democrat and their media attack dogs. Poor babies can't stand a real woman who calls things as they are...

You libs cannot stand it that a conservative woman can stand toe to toe with your career politicians and say what needs to be said. To you it's hate speech (get a grip), but to intelligent folks it rings of truth.

That is exactly what our country needs! My vote goes to McCain/Palin

Posted by: iowaguy | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

McCain and his new sidekick fell right into Obama's trap. That empty speech, given well enough to please us that she can give a better speech than McCain, proves it will be 4 more years of partisan bickering if McCain wins. We are in a life or death struggle to survive and they are being sarcastic and insulting. McCain has now energized the Democratic base. We question his judgment in choosing someone with a complicated family situation who doesn't want to admit to her awkward positions. Her family life is causing us to question her judgment too--terrible pictures of underage drinking are floating around the Internet now. But that's how the Republicans divide and conquer U.S. citizens with propaganda to win elections. And that's how they run the United States government. Bush was a governor with experience. Take that issue off the table. McCain and Palin are BUSH III.

Posted by: Belinda | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

>>Wow, Biden's going to take an ass-whoopin' from Palin in the debate! I can't wait.

I doubt that very seriously.

One: She's not going to be able to read from a prepared speech. She doesn't have a very good track record speaking extemporaneously.

Two: She's going to be asked questions. Questions about policy. Questions about background. She doesn't have a very good track record answering questions

Three: She's going up against somebody who has actual foreign policy experience, not experience gained by osmosis across a shared border.

I think McCain vs Obama gives you a better shot at looking good than Palin vs Biden. Biden is likely smoke her like cheap cigar.

Posted by: dijetlo | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Lefty-libs with their undies all in a bind... just gotta love it!

Posted by: PWG | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I thought Palin's speech came across very condescending and harsh. Also, her shrill voice was right at the edge of cracking so many times that it sounded like nails on a chalkboard. i can see why Rebublicans identify with her but they also "identified" with George bush for the same reasons and look where that has gotten us. I am voting for Obama - no question.

Posted by: independent voter | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Republicans still don't have a clue. McCain is more of the same. The last eight years of right wing rule have been one disaster after another. I don't want to vote for four more years of it. Palin is one frightfull right wing nut who did nothing but attack, "A pitbull with lipstick". I was uncertain who I was going to vote for until last night. The right wing are scared of Obama, all they can do is attack attack and side step the issues or twist the facts and mislead the American public. Obama 08 "Fired Up Ready to Go"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin delivered a very informative speech in which she compared/contrasted herself with what the democrats and media had said about her. She came across as one who rises to a challenge not as a "wingnut". She stood up to the political charges with specific examples of her leadership. I look forward to the live debates and interviews of the future. Her wit and intelligence and sincerity will make Obama pale.

Posted by: John Q Public | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

To fiscal conservatives:

Ok, I listened to Palin and understand why the religious conservatives are for her, but she isn't a fiscal conservative. Her record is in having left her mayoral position with Wasilla in the red. As a politician she has pushed hard for ear marks, and she got a huge additional tax on the private oil companies drilling in Alaska. The lower 48 and oil revenues support the citizens of Alaska to the degree that they have no income tax levied and even get an annual payment from their state government.

So fiscal conservatives, aren't you tired of having the religious right in your party completely dominate you? They were the driving force behind getting Bush elected and he grew the federal government more than Clinton. The nation's finances are in a shambles because fiscal discipline is not a priority of the religious conservatives. Palin is a gift to them. How do you feel about that?

Posted by: Ben | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Biden and the dems had better get a lot tougher than this. They better get as nasty and filthy as the gop. palin is a frighteningly incompetent human being. she will be crushed in the debate, in interviews (if they are not too embarrassed by her to let her have any)or any time she takes questions from a bipartisan crowd.

Posted by: travs | September 4, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I'm not joking... I AM the joke!

Posted by: hmmm | September 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

On the CBS Early Show, Biden was asked to comment on Palin's content and he said he only saw the last two thirds of it. He then proceeded to say that she never mentioned anything about a number of subjects. He was born with his foot in his mouth and he has never been able to get it out. I wonder if he has gotten that Indian accent down so he can go into 7-11s now.

Joe is going to be a great VP candidate. I predict a Dan Quayle sort of greatness for him.

Posted by: RTGreenwood | September 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

@ Fed Up - Take a minute to read the text of Palin's speech. It contains no mention of policy. What about people being able to afford college? What about health care? What about the economy? She mentions big government but doesn't provide a plan to cut spending or government involvement in our lives. The speech itself had a very cynical tone. Our country is in a dire situation right now. How does this cynical platform offered by McCain and Palin help us?

Posted by: mclaree1 | September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I can understand why you liberals are so angry today. Yesterday you thought the Republican Party was on the ropes and conservatism was about to die. Then in ONE speech Palin turned all your dreams of liberal domination upside down. She is young, articulate and exactly what Obama inaccurately claims to be, she truly is the average American. Get ready for 16 years of Republican domination of the White House. She is nothing but kryptonite to liberals. What a difference a day can make!!!

Posted by: obiewan | September 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Well, one thing's for sure:

If McCain/Palin/Bush get in again, America is finished.

A pity. I loved this country. A shame we gave it away to the Devil.

Oh yes - didn't you know? Bush is the Antichrist. Wake up real Christians, I'm not joking.

Posted by: hmmm... | September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Until recently I was one of those independent swing voters. However, after watching the absolute hatred and anarchy displayed by the left during this convention I now know who I will vote for. The left has been absolutely hateful and disgusting leading up to this convention and how they've treated this woman. Look at how they've trashed the town of St. Paul for God's sake! ...and you expect swing voters like me to support a party like this?

Shows the complete hypocrisy from the left. For several days now they have vehemently attacked this woman without even giving her a moment to explains herself. Now that she turned it right back at them look at how they (Left Liberals) are crying foul.

They can dish it out but can never take it.

People are beginning to see that Obama's speeches are just that - speeches. He lacks substance and certainly has no real experience. Not one person has been able to give an example of a major piece of legislation that he has authored. Palin hit it right on the mark when she said that "He (Obama) has authored two memoirs but not a single piece of major legislation."

That statement alone should convince people who the clear choice is.

Hands down McCain/Palin will win in '08.

Posted by: ChrisAtlanta | September 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"
Does Palin even know where Iraq is on a map?
"

Ask Hilary first, then ask Obama. remember "Late Saturday Night"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

When I see the names McCain and Palin all I see is: McPain... as greasy and heartclogging as the quarter pounder of lies and deceit that awaits this country if we elect these two fear mongers.

Posted by: creese | September 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I read some of the smears and insults and I must say that many if not most of you sound just like the vicious tabloids. Why is there so much hatred here? I guess many of you must be unemployed and need Obama for the free ride that I myself don't care to pay for.

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: al fulton - jakeD | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"Wow, Biden's going to take an ass-whoopin' from Palin in the debate!"

lol

Does Palin even know where Iraq is on a map?

Posted by: Biden | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"............
I also need to see her now in her own setting, giving live interviews, not just speeches, answering policy questions and future plans for the county.
"

You mean Obama? Soft pillow? No thanks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"............
I also need to see her now in her own setting, giving live interviews, not just speeches, answering policy questions and future plans for the county.
"

You mean Obama? Soft pillow? No thanks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

When I see the names McCain and Palin all I see is: McPain... as greasy and heartclogging as the quarter pounder of lies and deceit that awaits this country if we elect these two fear mongers.

Posted by: creese | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"Wow, Biden's going to take an ass-whoopin' from Palin in the debate!"

buwahahahahahaha

Does Palin even know where Iraq is on a map?

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"............
I also need to see her now in her own setting, giving live interviews, not just speeches, answering policy questions and future plans for the county.
"

You mean Obama? Soft pillow? No thanks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The people who like Palin are the same people who liked George Bush. Dummies love dummies.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

"
Palin doesn't know about sex education....does she know about other things?
"

Certainly not gay stuff. No thanks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

As Americans we should be able to criticize someone's speech no matter if that someone is a woman, a man, a democrat, a republican, etc.

Her speech was a long TV anti-Obama ad. Same low-blow, character assassinations instead of talking about what she was going to be as VP. She is very clear that Obama is not the answer; she also needs to be clear why she is. I hear what who she was and what she did, now she needs to give some details about what she is going to do.

I also need to see her now in her own setting, giving live interviews, not just speeches, answering policy questions and future plans for the county.

Posted by: A working mom and a patriot | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

More National Enquirer type comments ... it's scary that people like this are allowed to vote..

""Explain why Levi Johnston shouldn't be arrested as a pedophile, that's what she needs to do. Does she support pedophilia when it envolves her children?

How can she protect the country if she can't protect her own kids from pedophiles?

This is his second child; the first was with a 13 year old girl. Even by Alaskan standards (which are very loose) that is a bit young.

Sick.... really sick... yea, we want her in the White House. Her and her husband are good evangelicals, and typical of the breed. But lets move on to other issues.

Her husband and daughter: is child #5 really Sarah's? I don' believe so after looking at family photos on the internet. The eldest daughter is the mother for .."

Posted by: Fed UP | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

RE:H Brinkhuis

And exactly what does this bit of news have to do with Sen. Biden? Surely a person over, or matching, the age of 21 is perfectly adept to making individual decisions, no?

I see it was a counter to the posts stating Sarah Palin should be questioned on the circumstance of her daughter (underage, statutory rape). However, the occurrance involving Joe Biden's daughter has no integration to the political views of the Democratic party (nor was there influence from him). Where as in Palin's case, there is much reason to question her current stance.

Posted by: blueshirt_fan21000 | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin fired the police chief in her home town because he tried to curb drunk driving by closing bars at 2AM instead of 5AM. Where is the outrage from MADD(Mothers Against Drunk Driving)?

It seems like when Sarah wants her way she just paints her opponent as corrupt. That may work in all Republican Alaska, but it won't fly in the lower forty eight. She is going to have to prove any allegations she throws at people or suffer the consequences. When she was being praised. The speaker said "she fought corruption, some of it even in the Republican party". From what I understand all of the "corruption" that she claims to have fought was in the Republican party. The same great party that gave us such embarrassing characters as Richard Nixon, Spiro Agnew, Jack Abramoff, Alberto Gonzales, Tom DeLay, Skooter Libby, Mark Fowley, Larry Craig, Dick Cheney, Carl Rove, and George Bush.

Sarah with Republicans committing crimes on a constant basis you should have plenty of targets to throw your corruption dart at, but watch out because your party doesn't play nice. They will chew you up and spit you out like the piece of Alaskan whale blubber you are.

Posted by: RW | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I just follow Biden, a little, because I know he has the capacity to say something intelligent, rare among this crowd of Washington "narrative shapers," (ie "morons"), and others, who yearn to be taken seriously as towering intellects...

Yeah, those who would style future US policy as a flavor of the month "narrative," on par with a John Grisham novel...

Aye...

Posted by: Gerald Mcboing- Boing | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Biden's going to take an ass-whoopin' from Palin in the debate! I can't wait.

O'Reilly is going to expose the poser Obama tonight too. Can't wait for that one too!

Posted by: Double Whammy | September 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

It was a great speech.

If I agreed with her on any issue I might just root for a woman like her.

But I don't.

Posted by: PulSamsara | September 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

"
Because you should definitely not vote on the issues, but should vote on how one supporter of so-and-so candidate acts. Wake up.
"

I do not konw what the issues are about so I just vote present (130 times).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Palin doesn't know about sex education....does she know about other things?

Posted by: foxnews | September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Two impressions undeniably stands out from Gov. Palin’s speech last night….

1. “The difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is lipstick!,” and

2. Her humble and working class lifestyle says it all about her issues because she’s living them and if there is disagreement with them, you still know her intent is from the right place.

We say, “Home run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Here’ ANOTHER Democrat for McCain/Palin 08′!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah and Condaleeza would have been a better choice she at least has dealt with the big dogs. Even I'm scared of her!!!!

Posted by: ATL's Finest | September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

i agree with jake entirely, the mere thought of having some gimp family with a retard baby in the oval office makes me cringe... it's just disgusting imagining what the white house family portraits would come out looking like

Posted by: al fulton | September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Two impressions undeniably stands out from Gov. Palin’s speech last night….

1. “The difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom is lipstick!,” and

2. Her humble and working class lifestyle says it all about her issues because she’s living them and if there is disagreement with them, you still know her intent is from the right place.

We say, “Home run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Here’ ANOTHER Democrat for McCain/Palin 08′!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

You bed wetting liberals make me laugh! You've nit picked Sarah and demeaned her family for the past 6 days. Now you criticize her for fighting back. Just keep it up. . . next thing you know, you will have put John McCain in the Whit House. This gal will cut ya!!!

Posted by: turpenbob | September 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I thought Palin's speech to be very awkward and full of strange pauses, and on several key deliveries, she botched the punch line and left the audience hanging - not as bad as giulliani, which happened to be the most painful speech I've ever witnessed. He really comes across as a greasy little snake when he speaks... Palin obviously misrepresented her stance on issues such as in the bridge to nowhere where she says - no way... why then are they building a 30 million dollar approach road to the bridge to nowhere under her administration? Her political approach is as obvious and as meaningless to the election as this so called bridge to nowhere.

Posted by: creese | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"It is easy to spot the Obamaites here. Moreover it is obvious that they are very afraid of this woman..and so you should be."

Haha. This is nice macho-talk to make yourself feel better, but not at all true.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"The self-proclaimed "pitbull with lipstick"...no thanks, I'll pass. I can't wait until the VP debate. Biden is going to tear her to peices.
"

That "Washington insider" just knows too much. No wonder Obama wants him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Compared to Obama's vigour and freshness, Biden appears stilted, dull, and bureaucratic. Obama tapping Biden is like adding Michael Moore to your relay team.

Posted by: pgr88 | September 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Pathetic... the lib posting here have no substance.

Posted by: Bibster | September 4, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

could she find "the Caucusus" on a map? I doubt it.

Posted by: Nice rack, but... | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

"You people "Obama-ites" disgust me and are really helping me make up my mind"

Your taking one comment and generalizing about all Obama supporters makes me wonder if you *have* a mind. Go vote McCain, Chumpy, help destroy your country. Because you should definitely not vote on the issues, but should vote on how one supporter of so-and-so candidate acts. Wake up.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

A pitbull with lipstick. How funny! Brilliant move by McPublicCons - put a scrappy hot chick in glasses as their guard. What are you gonna do Joe? Slap a girl with glasses? The Dems have been handcuffed. How scary for America. How scary for the world.


Posted by: afraid_of_dogs | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM
No, I don't think so. What Sen. Biden is going to do when he faces Gov. Palin is debate the issues. You remember issues, right? That's the part where the Republicans' carefully constructed plans fall to the ground because "God, gays and guns" isn't selling very well this year.

Posted by: schmuckatelli | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

It is easy to spot the Obamaites here. Moreover it is obvious that they are very afraid of this woman..and so you should be. She represents everything that made this country great and you represent everything that will bring it to its knees. By the way the reference to bastard children and retards just proves who the "mean spirited" people really are. If you don't have the guts to stand up to mom maybe you have a small chance of whipping one of the children although one on one I'll still put my money on the kids, even the one with downs...

Posted by: Tom | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

So she gave a great speech. So what? She didn't write it, she read it off a teleprompter. As I remember, Hitler gave great speeches, too.

We need to know a lot more about this woman. Once the other shoes drop - and there appear to be several shoes - I predict disaster for the ticket.

Posted by: Deeplip | September 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

George...your Ape-like post just proved the theory of evolution. Of course, not everyone has evolved to the same level...and that's OK. You may want to check the facts before you show your ignorance. It is not just the liberal left that believes in global-warming, but 90% of the scientific community (and growing).

Posted by: dc2nm | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The self-proclaimed "pitbull with lipstick"...no thanks, I'll pass. I can't wait until the VP debate. Biden is going to tear her to peices.

Posted by: JC | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

About Biden,his daughter was lately arrested for DWI by an officerand gave hera test what she failed badly, when she was taken to court tha case was trown out
and the officer was fired from his job as a police officer for doing his job good,
what they seposed to do let Dwi'S kill people on the road .So with the power of Biden he had the Police officer fired,they should fire him from political jobs.

Posted by: H Brinkhuis | September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

RE: Do you think Global warming is a hoax?

The first Earth Day, April 22, 1970 has protesters carrying signs warning about the impending "Ice Age". My college Earth Science professor warned about the same in 1978.

The Earth has had constant warm/cold cycles for millions of years. The only hot air is from that blowhard Al Gore, who's only lining his own pockets.

Posted by: Global Warming | September 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

You didn't hear anything about the middle-class because the Republican party doesn't care about the middle-class.

I fail to understand what was so great about her speech. Anyone can read a piece of paper and promise to do a bunch of things they'll never be able to do. Yawn. She remains totally unqualified.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe that they can stand up there with a straight face and talk about Obama not having any experience.

Bush and Cheney shut out the top people at the CIA and created a case for war with IRAQ then lied to the American people about why we needed to attack them. This caused 1,000,000 deaths of our fellow human brothers and sisters. This is nothing short of murder. McCain supported this murdering #@$@ 90% of the time.

I don't care about experience. A president will surround him/herself with experienced people. I care about having someone in office to make the correct moral calls when faced with any issue which may arrise.

Lets derail the straight murder express.

Posted by: Aaron | September 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

cbmtrx, I take it that you are not a Christian. I think the real issue behind forgiveness is not that we just overlook or forget that we have sinned, but that we truly have the desire to change and move away from that sin. I have seen too many on these boards who have the twisted perverted belief that Christianity is all about looking the other way. On the contrary - what is very important to understand is that when we continuously act against someone because of the mistakes they have made, then we hold them in contempt and judge them. I can only communicate from personal experience that when we forgive others for their negative actions and sins, we release others from our own ungodly expectations and judgement.

It is up to the individual whether they choose to repent and confess their sin and receive God's forgiveness.

Believe me, I am not perfect, but I think that just by acknowledging the fact the her daughter is pregnant, she is coming forward to publically acknowledge her family's mistake and ask for our forgiveness. That's why it has been a non issue with conservatives.

And there is nothing wrong with teaching abstinence. My daughter is almost 18 and has not yet been on a date because she believes in saving herself for marriage. A very noble and righteous belief and conviction.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Pathetic... the lib posting here have no substance.

Posted by: Bibster | September 4, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Good speech.

When does she talk about her views on abortion, creationism, the first amendment and sex education?

Posted by: cta | September 4, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Palin was low down, dirty, lacking and class, sarcastic, liar, and frankly manipulated her handicap boy and her immoral daughter and "pitbull" status for political usage.I hope she can stand up to the cadabras in sight. If she is so moral why is the 17 year old daughetr under her charge not married and 5 months pregnant?...come on, Obama's mom never claimed to be a bastion of morality. Hey I do agree, the Democrats had better wake up and smell that coffee if they plan on winning in November. They have to attack and pretty quickly too. They need to attack on the issues, for which there are plenty. No Mr. Nice guys when dealing with low down scum of the earth people...get down there with them. this is politics at its highest stake...I dont want another 4 years of the last 8 years because Democrats were playing nice and lose the election with no hope for change. My husband just told me that there is a meeting underway at his work..More layoffs. If Democratics in Command dont stand up, I am going to be very uspet.

Posted by: Anya | September 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm sitting on the rail. I have no party loyalty but looking at the venom that the Obama group has plastered on these types of blogs first against Hillary and now Biden..

"Sarah Palin may give a great speech, but America.....do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?"

You people "Obama-ites" disgust me and are really helping me make up my mind

Posted by: Fed UP | September 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

That was not a great speech, it was theatrics. There was no substance, it was really shallow. The zingers, written by a professional, were pretty good.

Who is saying that Palin is a bad mom for running for VP? I hear the (R)'s complaining about it but I don't hear anyone making that claim.

This Palin person is way to close to her god, she even tried to have books removed from a library in Alaska. Anyone who doesn't believe in some form of evolution scares the DNA out of me.

Here's a theory: The good ol' oil (soon to be nulclear (i know how it's spelled)) boys in the (R)party don't like her, they know McLame duck has no shot so why not set her up for the fall...

Posted by: brad | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I found Sen. Joe Biden's comment on the "sexism" towards the Presidential running mate of John McCain's [Sarah Palin] intriguing, to say the least. Namely his suggestion of those questioning her dedication, or availability as a potential Vice-President (due to certain complications), are falsely believing or assuming - Quote:

"This stuff about how can she be a governor and a vice-president and raise three kids, come on. Whoever those folks are don't know any strong women."

However, the majority of initial reactions given on this very subject, by women, (in my experience) have been agreeing with the format of questioning her effectiveness.

I understand this statement was to clear some air that was polluted the previous night, so to speak, but it would be a far better decision to leave it be, as there is no political value; something that should be left solely to the voters thoughts and media discussion. After all, such has been the position the Democratic part has placed themselves for ethnicity, "experience", religion, sex, etc.

As well, considering the thoughts of most middle-aged mothers (undecided or Democratic) his statement, and the Republicans view, gives the sense that neither side really grasps how strange this situation is, for both Sarah Palin, her kids, and her soon to be grandchild.

Posted by: blueshirt_fan21000 | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

"
>>I think there are plenty of jealous women on the left.

No, but there are a lot of women on the right who think they can put lipstick on a pig....oh ladies, it's STILL a pig.
"

You certainly do not think the women on the left are pigs too. Do you, Obama supporters?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

the speech wasnt hers its one of those scared tactic that the republican used for the 8 yrs. i have not see anything new about this party. new face same tactic old face same old play. palin has no idea she was running she said it her self. talking about a one hit wonder this is like winning a scratch ticket on your last dollar wat a gamble and reckless act by the republican kinda scary to think mccain 72 yrs old well lived and serve in the arm force is going to past the united state of america to palin with no i mean knows nothing about running the country. running the nation and home is 2 diff things. now do you really want this country go down the pipe.wake up people .ask yourself how many of our sons and daughter lost their live to serve this country and the lies of republican about iraq. 8yrs wake up. im a war activist and a vet wrong battle and wrong time. if theres was what bs said the iraq have then i dont mind but tofind nothing i MEAN NOTHING!!! and see out troops die for NOTHING IS A PROBLEMS !!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

HAS JOE LOST HIS BEHTZIM?

Political correctness is reverse sexism; if the Dems don't respond in kind (not with sarcasm, but with a cutting edge) the Barracuda wins:

VEEP VAMP DOES THE NASTY!

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/palin-palooza-veep-vamp-does-nasty-get-political-w-vic-livingston


Posted by: scrivener | September 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Explain why Levi Johnston shouldn't be arrested as a pedophile, that's what she needs to do. Does she support pedophilia when it envolves her children?

How can she protect the country if she can't protect her own kids from pedophiles?

This is his second child; the first was with a 13 year old girl. Even by Alaskan standards (which are very loose) that is a bit young.

Sick.... really sick... yea, we want her in the White House. Her and her husband are good evangelicals, and typical of the breed. But lets move on to other issues.

Her husband and daughter: is child #5 really Sarah's? I don' believe so after looking at family photos on the internet. The eldest daughter is the mother for sure, but is the father of that child Sarah's husband? Let's do a little DNA test.

Will she support states that wish to secede from the United States, since her and her husband were both in a party pushing to have Alaska secede from the Union?

Will she legalize pot since she smokes it herself?

Will she change her position and start supporting unwed mothers, particularly teens so they can finish an education through college?

Posted by: morenews1 | September 4, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I went into the convention season legitimately unsure who to vote for. I genuinely like both McCain and Obama for their moderate policies, calm demeanor, and strong leadership. I don't believe Obama is too liberal and I don't believe McCain is too conservative, even though each side would lead you to believe the opposite. But I'm very tired of divisive politics, personal attacks, and fear mongering. In my humble opinion, that is not acceptable on the grand stage of a presidential election, especially after 8 years of the worst partisanship I’ve ever seen. After hearing Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin’s speeches at the RNC, I’m even more turned off to politics. Their comments were demeaning and offensive. While I may not agree with Obama on every issue, I cannot stand and cannot vote for a party that continually feeds on emotional, immature, and personal attacks to distort what really matters. Obama attacked McCain in last week’s speech, but it was on policies – which is what really matters when you get into office. And I found it refreshing that both Obama and Biden praised McCain as a military hero and a friend (in Biden’s case). Please, Senator McCain, stop this nonsense. It’s turning away independents who appreciated you for your ability to rise above partisanship.

Posted by: independentvoter | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse


I was not impressed by the speech at all. The news media and evryone else sucked into it, as they are afraid and caitius , that if they critique the speech, they will be attacked with the famous woed?SEXISM"...To me she was boring and ashed face, and she just deliver the words that the they prepared for her....She blah, blah about God, patriotuism,and her family, but hat about the issues of the economy, health care, ets. One more thing about the war, is she implying that God agrred with the war on Iraq????This has to be ridiculous. In fact, she made some good points, but in general, she spoke what she read, or though it seems. I will give her a c+..................

Posted by: rajah kahn | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

There is no denying it: 8 years of a Republican presidency and 12 years of Republican-controlled congress has yielded nothing of any consequence. Militarism, corporate greed, and political authoritarianism have turned this Great Experiment on its head.

If 20 years of combined Republican leadership can accomplish so little (heck, move us backwards), then I think it's fair to say that another party gets their shot (Dem, Green, whatever; you choose).

Beware: Eisenhower's predictions of a political-military-industrial-complex are being realized before our eyes.

Posted by: cbmtrx | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Biden, after losing his wife, worked in the senate and raised his kids, "Rode the train home every night". Why can't Sarah? She has a strong husband, vice presidents house is 10 minutes from her office. She can do it, no problem

Posted by: Pamela | September 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Scratch the surface and Palin looks very familiar. A history of financial mismanagement in Wassila and in her personal business affairs. Cronyism, and witch-hunts against perceived enemies. Deception, misdirection, hypocrisy. Convenient use of Christian Right wedge issues for political purposes, without that much follow-through when it comes to enacting policy. Very much a politician in the typical Republican mode.

All we'll be hearing from the Republicans this election is personal attacks. They are light on policy; and the policy they do have, they don't want to talk about. McCain has flipped so many times, and it's all too close to Bush, as well. Palin isn't a policy type, outside of some local Alaska issues. So we'll just be hearing attacks on Obama. They have nothing else to say. Palin's speech followed this pattern.

And despite what they say, Obama has given much more detail in his policy position, and has broader policy interests than McCain. There are areas like education where McCain is "missing in action" in policy terms (as David Brooks said in the NYT). The debates will bear this out.

Like McCain campaign manager Rick Davis says, for the Republicans "this election is not about issues, this election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."

Expect nothing but sarcastic attacks and vague image-related language from the Republicans.

Posted by: Mujokan | September 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"I'm glad Obama actually put some thought into his selection, but Palin makes me laugh.

Plain/McSame 08!
"

Some thoughts he finally give out after 130 times of "present"?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Compare her reading of the speech/script to the you-tube video's of her sports reporting and speech to her church group. There are other things you can put lipstick on and sell besides a bulldog.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

It is actually quite simple- Two career politicians and ideologues, one a socialist married to a black militant versus a career serviceman and second-career politician with a bold fresh face on the ticket. The latter ticket having access to a beer distributorship, guns and snowmobile racing!!
I am sure that in Massachusetts and California they don't get it but I assure the middle of the country does!!
Empty Suit vs Real People is an easy choice.

Posted by: mnman | September 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

>>I think there are plenty of jealous women on the left.

No, but there are a lot of women on the right who think they can put lipstick on a pig....oh ladies, it's STILL a pig.

Posted by: LizB | September 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Did anybody look at the demagaphics of the crowd at the RNC last night? They kept showing the same three people that were not white!!!! we've been misled by the GOP on why we went into Iraq. Is Palins' family tied to "Big Oil", oh her husband! Lets just drill our way out of the oil crisis...does Any one realize that even if we drill, the oil still goes on the open market, not us. And the gall of Palin to say that Obama wants to raise taxes? On who??? Not me, a middle class person hoping for some ease on the huge deficit the GOP has caused. Affordable Health care should be a right.

Posted by: Ray R | September 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Eagerly anticipated Gov. Palin's speech but was shocked instead. many of her points were crude and clearly hate-mongering. While obviously, she didn't write it, she could have demonstrated her judgment by removing or toning down the acidic points. In not doing so, she came across as an eager to please neophyte (pitbull, was it?) who can't be trusted as a stand-in for the angry old guy on the ticket, let alone the presidency. I guess the audience was the overwhelmingly white GOP crowd and the white voters in the rest of the country. Tragic, that the party of Lincoln is so narrow minded and divisive in 2008. Clearly Gov. Palin is no Hillary and doesn't have Hillary's gravitas. It is bad enough that we have eight years with a President who is proud of his ignorance. Do we need another ignorant governor from another oil economy state, as potential President? Palin's speech overall reflected poorly on McCain and his shattered promise of keeping the campaign debate civil and positive. I guess we will now see mud-slinging for the next two months form both sides. How disappointing!

Posted by: erica | September 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Steve...it is the republican's condescending, hateful sarcasm...the same that Sarah exuded...that is making people sick and tired of the same old politics. The extreme right may love that crap, but the level-headed majority are just sick of it.

Sarah Palin just won the election for Obama.

Posted by: dc2nm | September 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"I think there are plenty of jealous women on the left."

No. they are just Obama girls besides Obama gays.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

scotwww wrote: "I'll ask you, do you want a bastard child running our nation? Obama is a bastard child."

Do you kiss your mother with that filthy mouth? You're part of the problem.

Posted by: cbmtrx | September 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Just wish to answer these three questions that someone posted earlier:

Three questions to ask Sarah Palin:
1. Do you think Global warming is a hoax?

Climatic changes occur naturally over time and still there is no credible scientific evidence that it's even occurring now, regardless of the "reason". You simply HAVE to stop relying on the guy who invented the internet . . . Al Gore, for your information. A few refresher science courses also seem to be in order for you !

2. Do you think children think that the earth is only 7,000 years old.

No, I'm sure they don't but I'm certain that human beings didn't descend from apes either. If this was the case the fossil record would show this much more clearly ! There has been absolutely no scientific evidence that this THEORY is credible . . . NADA !

3. Do you think abstinence only education prevents teenage pregnancies?

At least as well as birth control does !

CHECK AND MATE

Yes . . . you've surely lost again ! LOL !

Posted by: George | September 4, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I found Sen. Joe Biden's comment on the "sexism" towards the Presidential running mate of John McCain's [Sarah Palin] intriguing, to say the least. Namely his suggestion of those questioning her dedication, or availability as a potential Vice-President (due to certain complications), are falsely believing or assuming - Quote:

"This stuff about how can she be a governor and a vice-president and raise three kids, come on. Whoever those folks are don't know any strong women."

However, the majority of initial reactions given on this very subject, by women, (in my experience) have been agreeing with the format of questioning her effectiveness.

I understand this statement was to clear some air that was polluted the previous night, so to speak, but it would be a far better decision to leave the subject be, to the thoughts of the voters* due to small political value. Considering the thoughts of these middle-aged females (undecided or Democratic) it gives the sense that neither side really grasps how strange this situation is, for both Sarah Palin, her kids, and her soon to be grandchild.

*No political tie, so it should be of no immediate concern when taking into account the previous democratic stance

Posted by: Vyse | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Quote article - "Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."
Hmmm, wasn't Bill Clinton one of these "out of touch politicians"? Wasn't he the president then? You want change? elect Obama, and that's all you'll have left - pocket change.

Posted by: fedupwithdems | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad Obama actually put some thought into his selection, but Palin makes me laugh.

Plain/McSame 08!

Posted by: Jeff | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Palin. You've set the country straight. Women can be ignorant, posturing blowhards too!

Can't we have a lipstick smeared bulldog as VP instead? Barking is far less grating than BS.

Posted by: Matt C. | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"
I disagree with Palin. The Oval Office should be an arena for personal growth and discovery. If,during that discovery, Obama brings us to the brink of nuclear annihilation (as JFK did in 1962)so what? The important thing is that Barrack has learned something about himself."


After 20 years of church education by his uncle, he finally learned something about himself?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

More than anything, I want someone in power who represents the honest american with no BS. Palin is americas hope. She might not be prime right now, but compared to Obama and his fakeness, tsk. GO PALIN. IM VOTING REPUBLICANS JUST FOR HER.

Posted by: IRWLZ | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Lets get serious this woman is a joke. Child services can kiss my @#$ cause my daughter will get wooped for getting pregnant at 17. You can't control your family how are you gonna run this country? Also she didn't write that speech (which disgusts me about all politicians anyway) so why are people salivating over it? A working middle class family and had nothing to say about the middle class or lower class for that matter. Do they even have problems like that in a town with a population you couldn't fill at a football stadium with? She's strong I'll give her that but if they win and the minute McCain drops dead, if you think the countries in trouble now this woman is gonna have to sleep with some of these world leaders just to stop them from dropping bombs and thinking we're ripe for the picking.

Posted by: ATL's Finest | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

No, the election should be all about overcoming one's own convictions.

Pro-abstinence-only and anti-sex education? Pregnant, un-wed daughter? No problem; chalk it up to "mistake" and move on as though nothing happened. God forgives all, right?

How utterly, fantastically convenient. Gosh, I could use that in all SORTS of situations!

No, unless Ms Palin can admit that her pro-abstinence-only stance has been misguided and wrong--and should be changed--she has no place bidding for public office.

Posted by: cbmtrx | September 4, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I think there are plenty of jealous women on the left.

Posted by: Kathy | September 4, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Reply to JakeD:

You asked, "do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?"

I'll ask you, do you want a bastard child running our nation? Obama is a bastard child.

Posted by: scottwww | September 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"
Sarah Palin may give a great speech, but America.....do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 9:34 AM "


Obams pairing with his uncle should be a better chioce.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Palin is Sean Hannity in a skirt: sarcastic, mocking, disrespectful, rude, and blinded by partisanship.

Posted by: Colleen | September 4, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Seriously? This is all Biden's got? How about something along the lines of:
*She lied in her speech and continues to call herself a reformer, even though she's aggressively pursued earmarks in her time as mayor. That's the office we have the most information and history about for her, so her actions there should indicate how she expects Washington should send special money to her constituencies. She's worked closely with Ted Stevens, including running his 527, and yet she still claims to have taken on her party and the old boys network?

OR HOW ABOUT:
*McCain claims to be a maverick, but chose a far right wing VP nominee to appease his base, who said they would revolt if he chose the two men that he most wanted to pick: Lieberman and Ridge. How is this maverick? How will this help bring our country together? Haven't we had enough divisiveness and sarcasm?

Seriously, if the Democrats think they are going to win this election by playing nice, they have terrifying amnesia about the politics in Washington in the past 8 years. It's no coincidence that McCain hired a bunch of the Bush campaign to work for him, including the speechwriter for Palin's speech last night, Matthew Scully. We don't need to attack her family. But we do need to talk aggressively about hers and McCain's records and their plans--which they both repeatedly refuse to do. They continue to give abstract, sarcastic, and divisive speeches, that are long on rhetoric and short on actual solutions. Can't the Democrats effectively hold these people accountable for what they've done to our country? They held every branch of office for 6 of the last 8 years and have the gall to say they are going to change Washington? Where was McCain all that time?

Posted by: ethel | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

A pitbull with lipstick. How funny! Brilliant move by McPublicCons - put a scrappy hot chick in glasses as their guard. What are you gonna do Joe? Slap a girl with glasses? The Dems have been handcuffed. How scary for America. How scary for the world.

Posted by: afraid_of_dogs | September 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Steve, that's a judgement call. Biden's speech was no less rousing to those who seek to support him as Palin's was to hers.

Enough with the schoolyard macho politicking; let's call the plays as t hey are and give credit where credit is due.

Posted by: cbmtrx | September 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I disagree with Palin. The Oval Office should be an arena for personal growth and discovery. If,during that discovery, Obama brings us to the brink of nuclear annihilation (as JFK did in 1962)so what? The important thing is that Barrack has learned something about himself.

Posted by: mcangelosi@aol.com | September 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

have it been proven that the other child belong to sarahs' daughter?

Posted by: JUSTME | September 4, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

"Biden Acknowledges Palin's 'Great Night'"

Well, that's just something you say. Like "pleased to meet you".

But let's not be ambiguous:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Posted by: cbmtrx | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Well, we have quite the liberal audience here today. I see a double standard here in that nobody is comparing Sarah Palin's speach last night to the one Joe Biden gave last week. Biden's speech was very bland and he was doing his best not to sound Whiny. At least Sarah Palin had a well choreographed speech and she made several key points to display just how far apart the two parties are.

Sarah Palin, in my mind, has a some really good life experience and that is valuable right now. She will be able to basically identify where the disconnects are between government and the workign class of America and work to close those gaps.

I think that to conservatives, it is easy to overlook her family situation, because they identify with the fact that we all make mistakes. What is important is that these mistakes, while glaring to most, do not become stumbling blocks. The way to do that is to acknowledge them and repent from repeating them. With that comes God's forgiveness. That's what's really important here. And it is important that we the people of America forgive as well.

Thanks

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Some of the comments above do appear a bit sexist...that is unless you actually saw Sarah speak last night.

As a self described pitbull who didn't think twice about blatantly lying to the American public, she is fair game.

I am a woman and I agree that her speech was hateful and very shrill...but then again, so was Gulliani's.

Please keep these psycho extremists away from public office. We are tired of being angry.

Posted by: dc2nm | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

It's hard to feel sympathetic for someone who spits hate for 30 minutes

Posted by: Fat Bob | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

This vapid wingnut just got her passport last year. I can't wait to hear her try to pronounce "Venezuela" again.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Its OK for the left and their media cronies to agressively attack McCain and Palin, but as soon as the GOP hits back they cry foul. Cry me a river. The argument that every GOP politician is just a clone of Bush is also getting very tired. Frickin dems....

Posted by: J | September 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I am not a citizen but I do love this country. One of things that amuses me is that the politicians world over have to paint a picture of their country that is nothing short of rosy. American people like all people have their shortcomings. There are tons of developing and developed countries that have elected minorities or women to leadership positions way back and America is actually way behind on this particular metric of braodbased development and empowerment. To name a few Israel, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan(!!), Germany, UK.....

In most of these cases it has been women who have already led their country with a record of accomplishments that are substantial. India has actually gone a few steps ahead and recently had a Muslim President, a Sikh as the Prime Minister, a white Italian Catholic naturalized citizen as the head of the ruling party in predominantly Hindu country. So we in America are way behind on this. In some ways it feels like we are celebrating participation in Olympics as an achievement when in other facets we only celebrate gold medallists. The bar is too low !!. We have to start somewhere i guess.

Posted by: John Doe | September 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Palin was great; hit a homerun in the first inning, and never let up. She got more votes as Mayor, than Biden got is his entire presidential run.

Contrast the Republican convention to the democratic convention:

2008 Democrat Convention Itinerary

7:00 pm OPENING FLAG BURNING
7:15 pm PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.N.
7:20 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
7:25 pm NONRELIGIOUS PRAYER AND WORSHIP - Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton
7:45 pm CEREMONIAL TREE HUGGING - Darryl Hannah
7:55 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
8:00 pm HOW I INVENTED THE INTERNET - Al Gore
8:15 pm GAY WEDDING PLANNING - Rosie O'Donnell
8:35 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
8:40 pm OUR TROOPS ARE WAR CRIMINALS - John Kerry
9.00 pm MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR SADDAM AND HIS SONS - Cindy Sheehan and Susan
Sarandon
10:00 pm ANSWERING MACHINE ETIQUETTE - Alec Baldwin
11:00 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
11:05 pm COLLECTION FOR THE OSAMA BIN LADEN KIDNEY TRANSPLANT FUND - Barbara
Streisand
11:15 pm FREE THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS FROM GUANTANAMO BAY - Sean Penn
11:30 pm OVAL OFFICE AFFAIRS - William Jefferson Clinton
11:45 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
11:50 pm HOW GEORGE BUSH BROUGHT DOWN THE WORLD TRADE TOWERS - Howard Dean
12:15 am TRUTH IN BROADCASTING AWARD - Presented to Dan Rather by Michael
Moore
12:25 am Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
12:30 am SATELLITE ADDRESS - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
12:45 am NOMINATION OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - Nancy Pelosi
1:00 am Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
1:05 am CORONATION OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
1:30 am Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
1:35 am Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hilary home.

Posted by: Palin was Great | September 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I think Biden and Obama are probably playing this exactly right. They're making her a non-entity, which, in the end, is what she is. She isn't going to hurt McCain, nor will she help him (the polls already tell us that). Her speech last night was given with a lot of gusto, but there was nothing awe-inspiring about it unless you're already a conservative Republican.

I still haven't made up my mind how I'll vote, and frankly, Palin hasn't made any difference. Despite the rantings of the left and the right on here, she's a non-factor in this campaign. McCain and Obama are the ones who matter.

Posted by: Steve | September 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

JakeD, your comments are out of line. Aren't you the republican who was supporting Hillary before?

Posted by: Liberal | September 4, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

We all know people like Sarah Palin, and we don't like them.

Posted by: Coffee | September 4, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

she can deliver a speech. Wait until people find out about her though. creationism, outlaw abortion in cases of rape, no sex ed. with a preggo teenage daughter, global warming isn't real, suing the feds for protecting the polar bear, Alaska secessionist. under investigation for abuse of power, supported bridge to nowhere before she was 'against it'....
She's a mess.

Posted by: brian | September 4, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Jake D. With comments like that, you've shown that you're the retarded bastard!

Posted by: roadlizard7 | September 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Palin needs to answer the following;
Palin raised taxes as governor, supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she opposed it, pursued pork-barrel projects as mayor, tried to ban books at the local library and thinks the war in Iraq is "a task from God." Real reformer or more of the same?

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

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Great delivery, attacking speech...changes nothing. We still don't know anything about Sarah Palin. The GOP is insulting voters.

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/09/04/will-insulting-voters-work/"

Do not worry we know Obama already and his uncle.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may give a great speech, but America.....do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 9:34 AM

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I don't care for this woman and I'm not gonna vote for her or the old coot, but dude, you could have left retard out..Im just saying..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

These comments (including Biden's) ignore that the speech pointed out Palin's accomplishments. She had many. As she said, Obama has written two memoirs, but he is not recognized for any legislation. And, his only executive experience has been running a campaign? If the working people and small business owners she talked about aren't the middle class, who is?

Posted by: Eyes Open | September 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

As a psychotherapist I saw a young pilot in training who was troubled by his relationship with his girlfriend. He said he loved to fly because it was very clear, “the landing gear was up or the landing gear was down.” He said he had a hard time relating to his girlfriend because he couldn't figure out what was right or what was wrong. People would like to thank in relationships there is a right way and a wrong way, the good guys and the bad guys. This is as true in international relations as it is in family relations. This is the problem with the McCain-Palin ticket. They would like to believe that obliterating the bad guys will solve the problem. If it were only that easy, I would vote for them.

Posted by: MIchael Bloom, Ph.D. | September 4, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, quite a bunch of loonies on this site, I'd say. Someone hide the Prozac? Really lefties, get a life. Sarah Bara-cuda reamed you left wing loonies a new one. Laughable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Did you notice how she stumbled when describing energy sources in Venezuala? Good speech, well-delivered, but doesn't change the fact that she has zero foreign policy experience.

As far as spending, Bush has wasted $400 billion dollars on a war we didn't need, and squandered the budget surplus we had under Clinton.

The choice of Palin is meant to rally the religious conservative right-wingers. Do we really want another president beholden to them?

Posted by: LJ | September 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

"but per this article, where's the beef?

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515499.html
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Go and find your beef in Obama' mouth.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

The dribble flowing from the previous remarks are a clear indication of the narrow mindedness this nation suffers from. In regards to Jake Dm let's not forget that the Democratic Presidential Nominee was conceived outside of wedlock. Check your lack of intelligence at the door.

Posted by: Discusted | September 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Jake D, that was absolutely uncalled-for. A big part of the divisiveness in our politics is the level of discourse, and negative language like yours just contributes to the trashiness without making any sort of valid point.

Are you trying to say that Ms. Palin's personality and character make her unfit for the office of vice-president? Are you saying it's her gender, her family relationships? What, precisely, do you object to, and why?

I find her eminently not-qualified for the job based on her education and experience, compared to that of Sen. Biden.

Posted by: Tomato Queen | September 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Biden's gratious comments if they are limited to Palin's ability to read from a teleprompter in front of a desperately freindly audience without addressing any real issues.

Any hoorah and ballyhoo above and beyond that is ridiculous GOP cheerleading.

Posted by: Donny | September 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

lets just remember, good always wins over evil and effects of good lasts more than evil. Can anyone please teach this to McCain and camp?

Posted by: J.Jay | September 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 9:34 AM

jake d. you are a retard.

Posted by: jake d | September 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

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Biden is too nice to say it but I will: Sarah Palin is one nasty "lady."
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Because you are one of Obama gays.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

My dearest Joseph, favorite Delaware son....

You and your hackjob cronies made HER LIFE the key issue. She responded to your questions, since you seemed so concerned.

That stinging feeling on your face, Joe?

That was the back of her hand.

Show those pearly whites, my blushing child, and walk way before she uses her knee.

Posted by: DE Boy | September 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may give a great speech, but America.....do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 9:34 AM
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Yikes! Is that really you JakeD?

Posted by: :-) | September 4, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

JakeD you have no class!

Posted by: Keith | September 4, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Not only is she sharp but smarter than any of you with your mean little comments on subjects you do not know about! I know her and she is a great lady!

Posted by: diana | September 4, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Some of these comments from Obama supporters are mean-spirited and cruel.
The comment about the half-dead baby is down right evil.
Please stop it.

Posted by: mediahack | September 4, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Please remove the comments of :
Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 9:34 AM
His comments are inappropriate and offensive.

Posted by: How did this get thru? | September 4, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

when will the Washington Post retract its stories that were falsehoods about the Vietnam and Iraq wars?
When they do, then i will look to the Post as a legitimate news source.

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I think you are all narrow minded and Sarah Palin is on sharp cookie!

Posted by: diana | September 4, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Listen to you liberal slobs. Affraid of what real strength is? A conservative woman with the ability to drive fear in your little minds! ha ha ha ha

Posted by: Uriel | September 4, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

"Three questions to ask Sarah Palin:
1. Do you think Global warming is a hoax?

2. Do you think children think that the earth is only 7,000 years old.

3. Do you think abstinence only education prevents teenage pregnancies?

CHECK AND MATE"


I would suggest Palin call Obama's advisor for anwsers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Go Sarah Palin. You've got the libs really confused.

Posted by: stpaul | September 4, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

If Biden didn't hear Palin mention the middle class, he must not have been listening.

Maybe he's so far up in the liberal elite that he doesn't even recognize the true middle class when it gives a speech on national TV.

Posted by: Margaret Leber | September 4, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

LIBERAL = SEXIST


They just can't stop themselves. The little boy liberals threatened by a real woman are going balistic already.

Posted by: julie | September 4, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin’s speech was disturbingly divisive and sarcastic, to say the least. Having a team of Pitbulls as we saw yesterday as our leaders is the last thing our country needs in this world of increasing hostilities. Now more than ever, I am leaning towards the smart, intelligent, savvy, sincere, dignified, idealist who can be strong when the need arises, who would command respect from the world any day over extreme radicals that the right wings have become. They would only make the world more hostile and distrustful towards us. Sarah portrayed nothing but more of the same old Rovian politics and that’s a shame. I expected better.
Also wonder if people who mirror our society’s bad elements are necessarily the right kind of leaders we need. I thought leaders were supposed to bring out the best is us and set good examples for the country to follow, not bad ones. Now suddenly having a child out of wedlock is ‘only normal’? Shows you how blind our society has become.

Posted by: Disgusting speech | September 4, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

The gloves are off again. I miss Hillary! She was right about sexism in this country. While I do not necessarily agree with Palin on a number of issues, some of the comments above boarder on hate speech. Loosen up guys!

http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Posted by: mgultch | September 4, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

What is with the half dead baby? How long can they keep using it as a political prop?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Great delivery, attacking speech...changes nothing. We still don't know anything about Sarah Palin. The GOP is insulting voters.

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/09/04/will-insulting-voters-work/

Posted by: ES | September 4, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

She is a Republican "STOOGE" but just doesn't know it yet. She is going to have to defend those words they put in her mouth at some point. If they ever actually let anyone talk to her. They have her is hiding now on the premise her son is going to Iraq. Don't expect to even see her again till after 9/11 after her son leaves. What do you think the chances are she will ever be on meet the press? Or anywhere for that matter where she will have to answer a non scripted question.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Three questions to ask Sarah Palin:
1. Do you think Global warming is a hoax?

2. Do you think children think that the earth is only 7,000 years old.

3. Do you think abstinence only education prevents teenage pregnancies?

CHECK AND MATE

Posted by: playa | September 4, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is Dick Cheney in drag.

Posted by: mnjam | September 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

but per this article, where's the beef?

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515499.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may give a great speech, but America.....do we want the grandmother of two bastard children (one of them a retard) running our great nation?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Biden is too nice to say it but I will: Sarah Palin is one nasty "lady."

Posted by: carolinagirl | September 4, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

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