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Clinton Campaigns for Obama in Ohio

By Lois Romano
ELYRIAl, Ohio -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), swept into friendly territory today to campaign for her former rival, generating large, passionate crowds -- but barely mentioning the woman whose popularity has many here fretting.

Since the Republican convention, Clinton has pointedly avoided directly criticizing vice-presidential nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) as she campaigns for Sen. Barack Obama, a strategy her staff says is endorsed by Obama's campaign. The goal, campaign strategists say, is to get the message back to John McCain's record, and not to create a clash between two women.

Clinton did her part today in this middle class community just west of Cleveland, aligning John McCain repeatedly with George Bush and the failed economy.

"This election is going to be a game changer," she told the crowd. "We have the opportunity to go beyond the failed polices of the last eight years. I hear a lot of talk about this election, people asking who are you for? That's not the right question. The right question is 'who is for you?'"

Repeating a version of her refrain from the convention, she shouted, "No Way, no how, no McCain and no Palin."

Clinton won the Ohio primary by eight percent, and it is the quintessential battleground state in November. Recent polls show the presidential race in the state to be extremely close.

Well over 1,000 supporters waited in line for hours to cram into the atrium of a stuffy community college to listen to the former first lady. Hundreds more were ushered into an overflow auditorium.

While supporters here were mixed about whether Clinton should directly assail Palin's views on issues that impact women, they were universally adamant that no Clinton supporter would ever support Palin.

"They couldn't be more different," said Barbara Price, a quality inspector here. "It's important everyone know the facts because the facts have to win out -- and Hillary stands for working people and so does Obama. He would have had better go of it had he picked Hillary for his running mate."

The audience today was largely women and white, the very women Palin has been trying to attract. The Alaska governor has been complimentary toward Clinton and the campaign she ran -- even suggesting that Obama should have selected her as is running mate. Clinton was scheduled for a second event on Akron this afternoon.

She ended her remarks by saying, "Those who supported me, I ask you to support Barack Obama."

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A Real-Life Soap Opera About the Suffragettes

Senator Clinton and Governor Palin are proof that women can and do diverge on important issues.

Even on the question of whether women should vote!

Most people are totally in the dark about HOW the suffragettes won votes for women, and what life was REALLY like for women before they did.

Suffragettes were opposed by many women who were what was known as 'anti.'

The most influential 'anti' lived in the White House. First Lady Edith Wilson was a Washington widow who married President Wilson in 1915, after the death of his pro-suffrage wife.

The First Lady's role in Wilson's decision to jail and torture Alice Paul and hundreds of other suffragettes will never be fully known, but she was outraged that these women picketed her husband's White House.

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Posted by: Virginia Harris | September 15, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

My best guess is that it will be years before Obama realizes it was Bill Clinton who sold John McCain on Sarah Palin. (A joke!)

Also, if I could bag all the vitriol contained in these comments and sell it as lawn fertilizer, I could retire a rich man tomorrow. And remember, hate is like acid; it will eventually eat up its container.

Posted by: Buckaroo | September 15, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

My guess is that it will be years before Obama realizes it was Bill Clinton who sold John McCain on Sarah Palin.

Also, if I could bag all the vitriol in these comments and sell it as lawn fertilizer, I could retire a rich man tomorrow. Hate is like acid; it eventually eats up its container.

Posted by: Buckaroo | September 15, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

The nFactor -5%

Posted by: Your Bawana | September 15, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

How long to you have to be beaten down before you realize who it is that beating you? This country has been beaten down by republicans for the last 8 years. Is the country too stupid to realize who's beating it? If you want to be beaten down for the next 4 years, vote for McCain. If you're tired of taking a beating, vote for Obama. It's that simple.

Posted by: Christians for Obama! | September 15, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

lol

Posted by: boruch yona loriner | September 15, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

There are lots of great posts here! One guy hit the nail on the head. Most of the people in this country are just plain stupid 51%. It baffled the world when America went for Bush again after the first 4 years of arrogance and disaster. Now 4 years later, the same intellectually challenged, inferiority complexed idiots will go for a Liar (McSame, McMilf) and more pain, suffering, and international embarrassment. You would think people would go with the more intelligent and level headed candidate with the best views on the issues. NO....not in this Narcissistic nation of dumb asses. This will continue as the red Meth nations have no interest in intelligence or education. The Stupid, Ignorant and addicted are actually choosing our leaders and determining the outcome of the world. Scary. Very Scary. As if the country wasn't in enough trouble. It could be Mickey Mouse and the adult wounded children narcissists would cast their vote for "who they resonate for" and "who will protect their guns." This is all due to their narcissism, woundedness, and inferiority complexes. This is why they are so irked and threatened by us "elitist" Liberals. Anyone with an IQ above 90 is an "elitist" threat to these stupid louses.

Posted by: ProudLiberal | September 15, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

In the seventh paragraph: "...waited in line for hours to cram into the atrium of a stuffy community college..."

I haven't been to too many stuffy community colleges, but I guess there could be some in Ohio. :)

Posted by: USCODB | September 15, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Rangel and Obama "working together to craft preminary legislative agenda"- That's just what our economy needs!

**NY Times Calls for Rangel's Resignation from Chairmanship of House Ways and Means Committee Today**

From Newsweek 8/28/08

OBAMA TEAM WORKS WITH HILL DEMOCRATS
(Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post)
Eager to avoid the missteps that plagued the first months of the Clinton administration, aides to Barack Obama have begun working in concert with top Democrats in Congress to craft a preliminary legislative agenda that would guide the senator from Illinois should he capture the White House in November. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has assigned her committee chairmen to begin with low-hanging fruit to build confidence and provide a new, young president quick legislative victories, then pivot to more challenging issues, from ending U.S. military involvement in Iraq to broadening health-care coverage. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) said his policy staffs and Obama's have been working together for more than a month. (!)

Posted by: Alan | September 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I know many people who do not have healthcare and cannot afford healthcare. I know many people who do not get medical treatment or medications because they cannot afford it.

Does everyone realize that McCain-Palin have bluntly said they will not reform healthcare? That people need to take care of their own bills?

Does everyone realize that Obama has a clear plan to provide the same health coverage that everyone in Congress gets for every American?

The economy and our ability to survive are important.

Does everyone realize that Obama introduced 127 bills in 2007, many of which were aimed at reducing our dependence on foreign oil, intelligent healthcare reform, and bills to improve the quality of peoples lives?

DO YOU REALIZE that John McCain has only introduced 37 bills? Bills designed to increase profits for the companies hired to manage the mess in Iraq? Haliburton and others? Bills designed to protect the profits of oil companies?

Has the world gone insane?

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

From Today's WS Journal

"Why Feminists Hate Sarah Palin"

"...Mrs. Palin's marriage actually makes her a terrific role model. One of the best choices a woman can make if she wants a career and a family is to pick a partner who will be able to take on equal or primary responsibility for child-rearing. Our culture still harbors a lingering perception that such men are less than manly -- and who better to smash that stereotype than "First Dude" Todd Palin?

Nevertheless, when Sarah Palin offered a tribute to her husband in her Republican National Convention speech, New York Times columnist Judith Warner read this as a message that she is "subordinate to a great man." Perhaps the message was a brilliant reversal of the old saw that behind every man is a great woman: Here, the great woman is out in front and the great man provides the support. Isn't that real feminism?

Not to Ms. Marsh, who insists that feminism must demand support for women from the government. In this worldview, advocating more federal subsidies for institutional day care is pro-woman; advocating tax breaks or regulatory reform that would help home-based care providers -- preferred by most working parents -- is not. Trying to legislate away the gender gap in earnings (which no self-respecting economist today blames primarily on discrimination) is feminist. Expanding opportunities for part-time and flexible jobs is "the Republican Party line."

I disagree with Sarah Palin on a number of issues, including abortion rights. But when the feminist establishment treats not only pro-life feminism but small-government, individualist feminism as heresy, it writes off multitudes of women.

Of course, being a feminist role model is not part of the vice president's job description, and there are legitimate questions about Mrs. Palin's qualifications. And yet, like millions of American women -- and men -- I find her can-do feminism infinitely more liberated than the what-can-the-government-do-for-me brand espoused by the sisterhood."

Ms. Young, a contributing editor at Reason magazine, is author of "Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces To Achieve True Equality" (Free Press, 1999).

Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

It's pretty funny when people say Obama hasn't sone anything. He wrote 890 bills during his 8 years in the legislature and sponsored another 1096. He's authored another 152 during his first year in the Senate and co-sponsored another 427.


Ever wonder what type of bills Barack Obama introduces into the Senate? Ever wonder what exactly he is working on everyday? Take a look at a small portion below. I think you might be surprised.

16. S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.

17. S.433 : A bill to state United States policy for Iraq, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/30/2007) Cosponsors (3)
Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
Latest Major Action: 1/30/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

18. S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.
Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/31/2007)

19. S.674 : A bill to require accountability and enhanced congressional oversight for personnel performing private security functions under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.

20. S.692 : A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a Hospital Quality Report Card Initiative to report on health care quality in Veterans Affairs hospitals.


21. S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.


22. S.737 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 in order to measure, compare, and improve the quality of voter access to polls and voter services in the administration of Federal elections in the States.


23. S.767 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.


24. S.768 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Give 'em Hell, Sarah
Like Truman, a natural-born executive.
by Steven F. Hayward
09/22/2008, Volume 014, Issue 02


"Part of what bothers the establishment about Palin is her seeming insouciance toward public office. Her success with voters, and in national office, would be n affront and a reproach to establishment self-importance. Anyone who affects making it look easy surely lacks gravitas and must not grasp the complexity or depth of modern political problems. Partly this is the self-justification for establishment institutions and attitudes, but partly it represents the substantive view that the size and complexity of modern government require a level of expertise beyond the reach of ordinary citizens. Some of the doubts about Palin are doubts about self-government itself.

As far no one has picked up on the significance of Palin's invocation of Harry Truman in her convention speech. Her reference was more than just a bridge to a heartland-versus-Beltway theme. Truman, recall, was the only president of the 20th century who was not a college graduate. Less than two months after abruptly taking over from FDR with no preparation, Truman wrote his wife Bess describing his quick progress in taking the reins:


It won't be long before I can sit back and study the whole picture and tell 'em what is to be done in each department. When things come to that stage there'll be no more to this job than there was to running Jackson County and not any more worry.


In retrospect it is clear that Truman "got it." He didn't need any more "experience" to master the job. "Well I'm facing another tall day as usual,"
he ended that letter to Bess; "But I like 'em that way."

Ronald Reagan evinced the same attitude toward office as Truman and Palin. In fact, on closer inspection, one can hear in the criticism of Palin the echo of the same kind of complaint made against Ronald Reagan throughout his political career. Never mind that he'd been governor of California. That this graduate of Eureka College--where?--had made his career in Hollywood, a place as exotic and peculiar as Alaska, was decisive with the establishment. "Reagan's election," John P. Roche, a former head of Americans for Democratic Action, wrote in 1984, "was thus an 8-plus earthquake on the political Richter scale, and it sent a number of eminent statesmen--Republican and Democratic--into shock." It wasn't only liberals who found Reagan incomprehensible. "No previous president of the United States," Rowland Evans and Robert Novak wrote shortly after Reagan's election in 1980, "had so bizarre a preparation for political office."

Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

have a read of this yanks

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/10/uselecti ons2008.barackobama

Posted by: kk | September 15, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

September 15, 2008
Can McCain Really Win Pennsylvania?
By Salena Zito

The intelligent question thrown out among strategists for both campaigns is, can John McCain really win Pennsylvania?

Really win it, not pretend to go for it, as Republicans did in 2004, all the while closing the deal in Ohio when no one was looking.

The last Republican presidential candidate to win Pennsylvania was George H.W. Bush, in 1988 -- a win preceded by two Reagans but followed by two Clintons, a Gore and a Kerry. The Kerry win was narrower than the others, however.

Since this year's Pennsylvania primaries, many people have been schooled on the mechanics of how Democrats win this state. Call it the "Rendell rule": Stack up high numbers in the Philly collar counties, hold the losses to a minimum in the other 60, and try to win Allegheny for good measure.

Can Barack Obama pull off a Rendell?

Villanova University political science professor Bob Maranto says political undercurrents are playing against him. "This is an old state, demographically, and some older white voters will be reluctant to vote for a black candidate," he explains, "but there is something more at work. Even if they call themselves independents, most voters more or less automatically vote either Democratic or Republican."

Maranto calculates that the 20 percent or so of voters who really are up for grabs will use information about a candidate's background to make assumptions about his policy views.

Pennsylvanians don't see McCain in the "failed Bush policies" category by which Democrats try to define him. Instead, they see a war hero, a brand that resonates in the blue-collar areas where their unions are trying to persuade them otherwise.

"He is a guy you can depend on," said Tom Miller, 54, of Lancaster, a registered Democrat who is very comfortable voting for McCain. "He has had no problem bucking his own party and he does not ask me to make sacrifices that he isn't willing to make."

Add the stereotypes that some voters hold about black candidates and Obama dilutes the Rendell rule.

So, where can McCain offset traditional Democrat voting blocs?

In Allegheny, Bucks and Chester counties, where a large number of those voters live.

To win Allegheny, McCain must win the entire South Hills area minus Mt. Lebanon. He also must win the new suburban areas around the airport, as well as the Mon Valley, where poorer working white voters live. He can easily sweep the North Hills as well as the small river towns.

Achieve that, and McCain offsets Pittsburgh's black and elite-liberal numbers.

McCain also must win Bucks County, where he should have Sarah Palin establish residency in the large churches in the northern half while he camps out in southern Bucks.

Chester County will be the hardest. McCain won't win West Chester, but the rest of the county -- a one-time Republican stronghold -- is persuadable.

All three counties have healthy-sized veterans populaces, with lots of socially conservative labor-Catholic Democrats -- all voters that professor Maranto views as weaknesses for Obama.

Democrat analyst Larry Ceisler admits problems exist for Obama in counties like Washington, Beaver and Fayette, but he is not quite sold on the idea that McCain can win Allegheny, Chester and Bucks.

The unknown factor in Obama's favor is the latest statewide voter-registration number. Obama state director Craig Schirmer issued a statement last week touting 1 million-plus more registered Democrats than Republicans, double the lead of 2004.

Perhaps the bigger argument is that if McCain is posting Bush 2004 poll numbers in Pennsylvania in the waning days of this election, it indicates that Ohio, Indiana and Michigan are already lost to Obama. Pennsylvania is just that small percentage point more Democrat than her Rust-Belt sisters.

University of Virginia political science professor Larry Sabato says his tentative conclusion is that McCain should not allow the money to run in Pennsylvania unless he has unlimited resources, and instead should look west. His argument: If McCain is close in Pennsylvania, then he already is well above 300 Electoral College votes and won't need it to win.

Salena Zito is a Pittsburgh Tribune-Review editorial page columnist. E-mail her at szito@tribweb.com

Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

If you always do what you always did, then you always get what you always got. "

OBAMA 08

Posted by: lis | September 15, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

I see it like this - 4 more years of the same kind of stuff? No - the Government needs a major shake up.

I don't think either McCain or Palin are strong candidates - I'm seeing a lot of trading on 'just like you' and 'war hero' but I see people in the background pulling the strings. The American people are given tokens to allow the status quo to continue.

They try and say 'oh the economy is fine', 'oh we can have victory in Iraq' (what is that in these circumstances??), 'oh just stick your head in the sand to everything you see around you and that once displeased you - it's not real, don't worry'.

Then they fire at someone like Obama, who didn't have an elitist upbringing but made himself, who was talking smart before he had campaign advisers and Biden, who, while he may be part of the establishment, has a lot of foreign policy experience and he knows the beast in Washington as it is. What better person to help Obama navigate change? You have to know the beast to know how to change it. You have to know what buttons to push in what way and when and it seems to me that Biden could well advise him on that.

Posted by: JayKay2 | September 15, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

MCain/Palin equal's the end of the world, Military back then was different when MCain was in the Milatary. Our society needs to wake up, Russia is practicing tactics to compete in the world. And Guess who gave Russia the oppurtunity "Bush/Mcain/Palin".

Obama, will take us back; where country will respect us once again.

Mcain/Palin will produce the end of the war, and all of 15year old children will be drafted into the Nuclear Fire that ends the world!

Posted by: mike | September 15, 2008 4:55 AM | Report abuse

BTW - because the rest of the world could see those two issues as being the major reason for 'infecting' the American Government and influencing its decision in ways that hurt other countries they were like 'hey, elect this guy'.

Posted by: JayKay2 | September 15, 2008 4:26 AM | Report abuse

Naomi - I have a different opinion about why Hillary lost. I think she lost because a) she didn't walk the same way as Obama and Edwards in rejecting lobbyist/corporate campaign contributions and b) when posed with the idea of revamping how foreign relations are conducted her response was lock step with the status quo. Those were the two issues that influenced the Iowa primary. Obama stood up on both issues, he came first. Edwards stood up on one of the issues, he came second. Hillary stood up on neither issue - she came last.

Obama winning Iowa dented her inevitability and spring-boarded those two issues into the national conscience. Obama had stood up to two areas that are actually critical issues for America to address and a lot of people saw that and said 'yeah, we need this kind of change'. I think Hillary took awhile to figure that out and start to try and move towards it, but because I think the two issues are intertwined (i.e. corporate interests might influence foreign policy decisions) and because she had already taken money from coporates/special interests she was locked in by her commitment to them.

Posted by: JayKay2 | September 15, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

I think the most laughable thing about many of these comments are the "I'm voting for Sarah Palin" bits. I wonder if anyone else out there realizes that she isn't running for the office of President.

Posted by: Chris | September 15, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

My wife and I are both in the military. She is serving her 26th year and Im on my 29th. One year to go for me. We have always voted fot the Republican ticket in the past even though we are Independent. After keeping up with this campaine and researching everything we could, we will be supporting Obama. McCain served his country with honor, but that in itself doesnt mean he will be a good President. What really sent us over the edge was the pick of Palin. The thought that she could be our Commander in Chief one day is scarey. Both Kennedy and Reagan were great at deplomacy and the Berlin Wall came down and we prevented a war with the Soviets during the Cuban missle crisis due to having brains in the White House that believed in deplomacy first.At one point Kennedy's four Generals and Chief of Staff were pressuring Kennedy to attack. Kennedy didnt fall to the pressure and used is brains and deplomacy to possibly stop a war and it worked. Does anyone acually believe, if McCain and Palin had been in office that they would have gone against their Generals and used deplomacy. I think not. If something were to happen to McCain, Palin would be in charge of the most powerful military in the world. I know about the Alaska National Guard but I also know she as never given them one single command. My Wife and I are sure in our beliefs that if McCain and Palin are elected, at the least, we would just continue with Bush policies or even worse. Obama believes not only in deplomacy first, before conflict, and has the brains to make it work. He will keep our military strong and country safe and will help fix the the worlds view of us. Remember the days when the international community respected and looked up to us. Please support the troops and God Bless America.

Posted by: Jacky Chen | September 15, 2008 3:20 AM | Report abuse

America did not have such powerful Mainstream Media outlets when Nixon was in office, as they do now. And I am grateful that I have the freedom to choose which forms of the media to get my information from. A well informed voter is progress, not a politician. America is going bankrupt on promises not fulfilled by the present adminstration. As American we owe it to the candidates to learn about them respectively, we really need to delve into their histories and herstories, voting records and beliefs, then only can we choose the best person for the office.

Posted by: Cindy | September 15, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Dear, pls add "rednecks" to your "Proud Coalition". Be grateful that you have so many like-minded people on your side.

[But glad I'm not on that side]

Posted by: SK | September 15, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives-White supremists-evangelicals for John McCain/Sarah Palin 2008

A proud coalition salutes a proud team for our nation's future.

Posted by: THE PROUD COALITION | September 15, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Magdelan, I couldn't have said it any more eloquently.

A vote for McCain is a vote for progress.

Posted by: McCain/Palin 08 | September 15, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Anonimous
John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as VP is a BRILLIANT WHITE MAN'S way of thinking.

Drilling offshore in ALaska is a MAVERICK idea. It would forge better relations with Russia for a start, thereby making the US less dependant on MUSLIM OIL.

We strongly need Russia as a better partner. JUNGLEMEN,LIKE OBAMA CAN'T THINK
MAVERICK.

Posted by: magdalen | September 15, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Anonimous
John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as VP is a BRILLIANT WHITE MAN'S way of thinking.

Drilling offshore in ALaska is a MAVERICK idea. It would forge better relations with Russia for a start, thereby making the US less dependant on MUSLIM OIL.

We strongly need Russia as a better partner. JUNGLEMEN,LIKE OBAMA CAN'T THINK
MAVERICK.

Posted by: magdalen | September 15, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, Richard Nixon was the example par excellance of vindictive hirings and firings. Yet in the midst of it, he DID get re-elected in the biggest landslide of American history - nearly 61% of the vote.

In other words, vindictiveness hardly ever comes to the forefront in determining how the MAJORITY of people vote.

Posted by: Boston Sox | September 15, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

I do recall 1996 was a Republican controlled legislature and the blame should be on both parties. (HUH?)

Posted by: Cindy | September 15, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Looks like a few people Alaska is not too fond of Palin, even though she still (as of last week) has an approval rating over over 70%

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge

Posted by: REAL fact | September 15, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

I was impressed with Palin the moment I saw that she could take virtually no knowledge about a subject and speak the words she did know in such a powerful way that it floored the crowd. I'm talking of course about her amazing speech at the RNC.

My feeling was that she had won big time on that but shouldn't risk it a second time. Right now she seems to be seriously studying all about how to be a VP and I salute her for it. A few months of study may well be enough to give her the basics she needs to blow away that sarcastic, cynical Joe Biden. Actually all she has to do is look stupid beside Biden and Biden will come off as the arrogant, pompous piece of DC rag that he is.

There's no doubt about it that by playing coy with the reporters now, people will clamour more and more for Palin to come out and give us some more of her verbal nuggets of wisdom.

PROUDLY VOTING FOR SARAH PALIN

Posted by: PROUD VOTER FOR SARAH | September 15, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

Being groomed for a speech and being groomed for the Presidency are two opposing forcing. As Shakespeare one said, (paraphrasing) some people are born great, some achieve it, and some have it thrusted upon them, but the main thing I believe is what they do with it. And if firing people because they disagreed with you is the eptiome of greatness, then yes, Palin is a good candidate for grooming.

Posted by: Cindy | September 15, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

If we had voted on issues and not on feelings in 1996, then we would not have ended up in the sad state of months and months of distraction with a president who couldn't keep his doodle in his trousers and shamed the nation by putting us through only the second impeachment in our nation's history.

But then again, the lesson taught us that some people simply can not be shamed.

Posted by: huh? | September 15, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

I just want to Nov.4 to come around so I can vote for Obama and won't have to be continually sketched out by this woman who won't answer live questions from the press. Its just sketchy. If she doesn't want to talk to the press, well than don't give her any press at all. Besides I think most of America has Overdosed on this woman and 2 weeks from now she'll a woman in dress repeating speeches from a teleprompter--new-clear-nuc-clear-newclear. Yes Sarah its nuclear. haha GW in a dress. Multiple vp debates and I want them now!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Decided Voter | September 15, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

In response to your comment "blather on the
WP"-- I am a voter, I vote on issues and have been successful in my choice of candidates (Reagan, Bush (Sr.that is), and Clinton. If we had voted on issues and not on feelings, then we would not have ended up in the sad state we are in now.

Posted by: Cindy | September 15, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Firstly mccain PIMPED sarah palin to become his running mate after all else failed to put him above Barack Obama in the polls.

Now that he has faced DEAD END and doesn't want to see it again, mccain is showing his true self.......

that of a PRIMITIVE, FOUL MOUTHED JUNGLE MAN who grovels until he can find something whether true or false to accuse obama.

ROOSEVELT,KENNEDY and CLINTON would NEVER in a million years have reverted to twisting the words of their opponent like mccain did when he made it seem like obama called sarah palin a pig with lipstick.

At worse, sarah palin is a moose with lipstick.

Those others were GENTLEMEN. Especially Bill Clinton who did NOT have sexual relatioons with that... that... that woman Ms Lewinsky.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Naomi, I'd say that the biggest problem with Obama - indeed, his fatal weakness - is that he doesn't understand American politics, especially at the national level. He refuses to get down in the mud and sling it for all it's worth. For all his high talk, high talk doesn't win elections in the USA. Mud does.

Posted by: TO NAOMI | September 15, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

The great thing in America is that stupid people can vote just like intelligent people.

The reason why McCain will win is because there are more stupid people voting for him than there are stupid people voting for Obama (although that still means tens of millions of stupid people voting for Obama).

Those of you who snicker and smirk about the stupid people on this board and in America in general aren't going to have the last laugh. It will be John McCain because his campaign doesn't take stupid people for granted. He's used the campaign strategies he's needed to, to bring those stupid voters on board and because of that he will win.

One wonders why democrats can't get it through their thick skulls that if they want to win elections they can't laugh at the stupid majority.

Posted by: Analyst | September 15, 2008 12:33 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Firstly obama PIMPED 18 million of Senator Clinton's viotes, which she and her frail husband worked blood and the sweat of their brow to amass.

No that he has faced DEAD END, obama is showing his true self.......

that of a PRIMITIVE, FOUL MOUTHED JUNGLE MAN

ROOSEVELT,KENNEDY and CLINTON would NEVER in a million years have reverted to base language like LPSTICK on a PIG to describe a rival.

They were GENTLEMEN.

Posted by: magdalen | September 15, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing that people can be so stupid! The country is going down the tubes. We were sold a bill of goods with the war in Iraq, a war that Hillary Clinton should not have voted for. That's why she lost. The best candidate won. But on most issues, Clinton and Obama were close. Obama has run a very disciplined campaign with a consistant message of change, and he won the primary fair and square, never being sexist or using personal attacks. Hillary had high negatives with indendents, and it would have been hard to vet Bill with all his business dealings. Obama picked the best running mate for him, someone who's not super rich, knows his stuff, worked for women's rights and the little guy.

If this election with all that's at stake with the economy, a seemingly endless war, a supreme court on the brink of giving more and more power to the executive branch, with less and less concern for the average person, turns on the superficial outer shell of a know nothing VP candidate, then I will have lost any faith I once had in democracy. McCain sold out his country and sold his soul to the devil with his lies and cynical gimmicry, in order to advance his political career. Talk about drinking the cool-aid! The problem is that while you McCain/Palin non-thinkers are commiting suicide, you're taking the people who really care about getting this country back to prosperity and peace down with you. I'm not a religious person, but all I can think of is God help us all. People, we must do whatever we can to make sure that Barack Obama is the next President of the United States. The world is watching to see if this country can do the right thing for the sake of all of us.

Just think, from Day One, as Hillary liked to say, once Obama is elected, the world will look at the United States as that beacon of promise that has been absent for so long. We must prevail!

Posted by: Naomi | September 15, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

McCain/palin 08, you're absolutely right on!

sarah palin CAN be groomed for the job!

Posted by: I appreciate real thinkers! | September 15, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I believe that as little as Sarah Palin seems to know about anything outside of Alaska that she's a bright, beautiful gal who with a good tutor and time can at least learn how to respond to questions even if she can't figure out what the questions are about.

Some people pooh pooh using these high offices as training opportunities but I think we should give Sarah Palin a chance. She's a quick understudy, you could tell that at the Republican convention by how convincingly she read the speech written by the former white house speechwriter.

All Sarah Palin needs right now is a teleprompter that works!

Posted by: McCain/Palin 08 | September 15, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Brock:

It was not done to insult, Brock.

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

We have experts in every field on the blog tonight.
Pete is a truth expert
Dale is a foreign policy expert
suzieQ is a Woman rights expert

Truth is you don't know jack

Posted by: circus monkey | September 15, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Re: Cindi

Joe Biden is...well Joe Biden. He will never ever be ready.
Up coming Sarah Palin can be groomed to be VP and be President.

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Personally, my fellow Americans, I'll cast a vote for the one candidate who's likely to become like our great president Ronald Reagan in that he could remember every detail about his B movies but forgot what was said 5 minutes before by his Secretary of State, George Schultz.

My vote is for John McCain, the man most likely to forget.... just like our great Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Republican 4 Life | September 15, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Pete

I don't want a president that can remember everything that happened to him a half century ago in a pow camp, but can't remember he used that same pig phrase less then 5 months ago.

Posted by: brock101 | September 15, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin knows that Russia is one neighbour and Canada is another and so long as she stays VP, that's all she ever has to know about foreign affairs!

Posted by: McCain/Palin 08 | September 15, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

"Voting for someone just because she is a woman is a disservice to her, and women as well. "


GEEE-SUS! When will you intellectual eggheads with your heads in the clouds ever come back down to earth. Disservice-shervis, it doesn't matter. Who cares if it's a disservice or not. In the end, it's all about votes and nothing else.

Goodness. No wonder the dems lose all the time.

Posted by: blather on the WP | September 15, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Dave, thank you for the informative comment on Barack Obama. I would hope that all women read it and understand what this election is about. Voting for someone just because she is a woman is a disservice to her, and women as well. Yes, it would have been great for Hillary to either have been President or VP, not this time, besides we will still her in the Senate, and that is indeed a good thing. I am not knocking Palin, I just don't think she is ready. I am trying to get a feel for her through her conversations, but it is hard for me to understand exactly what she stands for because when she talks, she interrupts herself and goes on tangents about nothing. It would be great having a woman as President or VP, but Palin is not it. And I am a woman.

Posted by: Cindy | September 15, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

REGARDING THE POSTING BELOW. WILL THE CHRISTIAN TALIBANS PLEASE LEAVE THE ROOM?


Love America with all its imperfections or leave it.

WE LOVE AMERICA SO MUCH THAT WE WILL GET RID OF ALL IDIOTS WITH YOUR OPINION AND THEN WE WILL LOVE IT EVEN MORE. NO IMPERFECTIONS. LAST TIME WE HAD IT,IT WAS SEPT.11th.2001 AND 3000 PEOPLE DIED.

Posted by: ZERPY | September 15, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the greatest female leader that has ever lived, far beyond Catherine the Great or Queen Elizabeth in her potential to turn America upside down on its head. She is making her mark on the national stage by her thoughtful and indepth replies on television interviews. She is honest about her ruthless pursuit of power and decent to her kids, including even that fellow who knocked up her daughter. Women like her need to be heard.
There are long term and lasting benefits that will go beyond her terms in office. So let's support Sarah Palin.

Posted by: admirer of Palin | September 15, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Love America with all its imperfections or leave it.

WE LOVE AMERICA SO MUCH THAT WE WILL GET RID OF ALL IDIOTS WITH YOUR OPINION AND THEN WE WILL LOVE IT EVEN MORE. NO IMPERFECTIONS. LAST TIME WE HAD IT,IT WAS SEPT.11th.2001 AND 3000 PEOPLE DIED.

Posted by: eXtErMiNaToR | September 15, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

The voter registration drive that Obama-ites have been engaging in for all of 2008 is the big, big factor that potentially will make ALL polls moot.

If that hidden voter registration drive succeeds, election day will be quite a surprise indeed.

I wonder?

Posted by: Independent Voter | September 15, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Re:Brock

To whom do you give the benefit of the doubt to?
Someone who flipped and calling a woman a sow and a fish-stinking (bleep) or someone with a real personality however flawed it may be.

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Pete

How do you know that McCain Palin stories are true? You don't like most sheeple you will vote against what's best for the country.

Posted by: brock101 | September 15, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Re: Dave

John McCain's story of infidelity and Sarah Palin's story of petty vindictiveness against her ex brother in law are the real stories.
Obama's story is not.

Posted by: ? | September 15, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Brock and Pete,

It really won't matter what Sarah Palin is 'exposed' for. After all, in 2004 we all knew that the reasons for the war in Iraq were pretty much made up and we still re-elected George W Bush.

Facts mean nothing in American elections, only perceptions. The perception of Sarah Palin is that she's nice or she's tough. The tough people will like the tough side, the nice people will like the nice side and no amount of scandal being 'exposed' is going to take awway those votes.

Love America with all its imperfections or leave it.

Posted by: McCain/Palin 08 | September 15, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Suzieq

You can put it in the bank, your vote will put Obama over the top
thanks for voting Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: chitown | September 15, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

only way I could possibly vote for Obama is if...
1) HRC becomes Senate majority leader when the session opens
2) Pelosi, that spineless piece of crap is FIRED and replaced with someone with a backbone
3) Howard Dean, Brazile and a host of other names too long to mention are REMOVED from the DNC
4) the DNC is returned to the control of the PARTY MEMBERS and severed from the Obama campaign

that doesn't happen...I'm not going there. That is the only way to put the party on track and the only alternative at this point is to derail the crowning of Obama who absolutely scare the crap out of me. He's corrupt and has the same group of people seeking to install him as did GWB in 2000. He'll probably win, there will be plenty of dead people voting for him for sure given all the practice he had at defrauding the caucuses.

Posted by: linda | September 15, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Re: Dave

John McCain's and Sarah Palin's stories are the real stories.
Obama's story is not.

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

My girlfriends and I have switched our votes to McCain. We are so excited that a woman is going to VP! Yeah, I know, Hillary is for abortion, Sarah is not, Hillary is against guns, Sarah is for them, Hillary supports liberal causes, Sarah supports conservative ones. None of that matters. The point is that Sarah is a woman and an attractive one at that. If Sarah had been on a ticket before Hillary was out campaining my girlfriends and I probably would have picked Sarah to begin with. We're just soooooooo happy that someone with boobs is going to be the prez!!!!!!!! (mccain will die sometime in his first term)

Posted by: Suzie Q | September 15, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Pete

Sarah palin is on the ticket. She is just there for eye candy. Soon she will be exposed for the fraud she is.

Posted by: brock101 | September 15, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

The great thing in America is that stupid people can vote just like intelligent people.

The reason why McCain will win is because there are more stupid people voting for him than there are stupid people voting for Obama (although that still means tens of millions of stupid people voting for Obama).

Those of you who snicker and smirk about the stupid people on this board and in America in general aren't going to have the last laugh. It will be John McCain because his campaign doesn't take stupid people for granted. He's used the campaign strategies he's needed to, to bring those stupid voters on board and because of that he will win.

One wonders why democrats can't get it through their thick skulls that if they want to win elections they can't laugh at the stupid majority.

Posted by: Analyst | September 15, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the greatest female leader I ever seen and she is making her mark on the national stage. She is honest and decent and women need to be heard.
There are long term and lasting benefits that will go beyond her terms in office. So let's support Sarah Palin.

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Gee said "I'm tired of the really long postings. Their to complicated to read and besides I already made up my mind I'm going to vote for Sarah no matter what."

Here's a short one for you. Perhaps the reason you are voting for Sarah Palin is that you "don't read" long posts and therefore don't understand any of the issues.

There is no other explanation.

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....*

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."*

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.*

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.*

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.*

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.*

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.*

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.*

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.*

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.*

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.*

If you teach teach children about sexual predators, you are irresponsible and eroding the fiber of society.*

If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible. *

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America 's.*

If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that hates America and advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.OK, much clearer now.

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Move over, Hillary!

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I/m tired of the really long postings. Their to complicated to read and besides I already made up my mind I'm going to vote for Sarah no matter what.

Posted by: Gee | September 15, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a great leader.

Sarah Palin represents the interests of women.

Posted by: pete | September 15, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

People really do not understand the oil issue so here are three main overviews of how US Oil will work, Nuclear Reactors, and Alternative Energy. First US Oil.

US OIL

1) We all agree we need to stop enriching middle eastern countries by purchasing their oil.

2) Even if we drill ANWR and offshore we can only supplement 8-10% of our oil consumption by 2025 not icluding growth in consuption.

3) Drilling does not reduce the price of gas, and in fact is more expensive than oil from the middle east which is why we don't produce much now.

4)When we do start our own flow of oil and reduce our purchases from the middle east, they will respond by lowering prices because they will want to put US production out of business. It's competition.

5) US oil companies will cry foul and ask congress to step in and tax incoming oil so they can be competitive.

6) US oil companies will also require subsidies by the US government so that they can stay in business (and make a profit).

7) The US taxpayers will bear the brunt of the cost of US oil production, while US oil companies still turn healthy profits.

NUCLEAR REACTORS

1) Electricity is one of our cheaper form of energy.

2) We have plenty of coal to produce electricity.

3) Making more electricity does not reduce our dependency on oil, unless we build electric cars.

4) If we build electric cars they would typically be charged at night.

5) Power plants take 3 days to ramp up to full speed. Therefore they must run at full power all night, even though all that electricity is never used and cannot be stored.

6) The current cheap electricity we produce at night can satisfy our need to charge electric cars without building Nuclear Reactors.

ALTERNATIVE ENERGY

1) Alternative energy is a reality now, but it is more expensive than oil from the middle east.

2) The current cost of alternative energy is very similar to the cost of domestic oil. (Oil we produce)

3) The cost of alternative energy in the year 2025 is hugely less expensive than what the cost of oil is in 2025 produced domestically.

4) If the same government subsidies and market protection were afforded to alternative energy as oil, the cost would be similar to the cost of other energy sources.

WHY REPUBLICAN PARTY PUSHED OIL AND NUCLEAR

1) Because oil and nuclear power can be controlled and profited from. Not anyone can drill for oil or build a nuclear plant.

2) Alternative energy is can be produced by anyone at any level without special permits. 1000's of small start-up companies would be the ones to produce alternative energy, leaving current big business high and dry.

3) The cost of alternative energy continues to decrease year after year. Not good for big energy companies intent of increasing their profits each year.

4) The rewards of alternative energy will go primarily to small and medium sized businesses, and produce an entirely new industry in which the middle-class can participate and profit from.

Think about this before you vote please.

Posted by: dave | September 15, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

My girlfriends and I have switched our votes to McCain. We are so excited that a woman is going to VP! Yeah, I know, Hillary is for abortion, Sarah is not, Hillary is against guns, Sarah is for them, Hillary supports liberal causes, Sarah supports conservative ones. None of that matters. The point is that Sarah is a woman and an attractive one at that. If Sarah had been on a ticket before Hillary was out campaining my girlfriends and I probably would have picked Sarah to begin with. We're just soooooooo happy that someone with boobs is going to be the prez!!!!!!!! (mccain will die sometime in his first term)

Posted by: Suzie Q | September 15, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I don't give a rat's ass about whether my old heroine, Hillary Clinton is asking me to vote for Obama or not. I DON'T CARE. I had respect for her when she was winning but now that she let Obama push her aside, her words count for noothing, absolutely nothing in how I'm going to vote.

I'm voting for Sarah Palin because Hillary let me down by not winning the nomination.

Obama???? Poooooooohhh!

Posted by: Becky from Nashville | September 15, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

I love my country but fear my government.

The stupider the people are who lead me, the less frightened I feel.

Posted by: Gordon | September 15, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse


IQ is not important. George Bush got 8 years in office with his.


Posted by: snickering | September 14, 2008 11:56 PM

CHECK MATE!!!!! YOU GOT ME ON THAT ONE.
BUT I THINK THAT ONE WAS LIKE GRINCH STEALING XMASS.

Posted by: NOT Smarter Than a 5th Grader | September 15, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is out and she will never come back.
Sarah is available!

Posted by: pete | September 14, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

IQ is very important!! this is 21st century. All other world leaders are thinkers, smart and intelligent. What we have? We have somebody who spends 20 years in public service and still doesn't learn any tricks of politics. Sarah Palin hasn't learn anything obviously, except bragging without explenation.

Posted by: NOT Smarter Than a 5th Grader | September 14, 2008 11:48 PM

IQ is not important. George Bush got 8 years in office with his.

Posted by: snickering | September 14, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

We vote who we like, and those who are at about our intelligence level are who we like best.
_________________________________
McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class of almost 900. It took Palin five different schools to get through college. Doesn't say much for you, does it?


Posted by: T Tanim | September 14, 2008 11:17 PM

Posted by: JAH | September 14, 2008 11:44 PM


No, it doesn't. But although I know you just must detest the reality, America is a democracy which means the votes of the stupidest count no more and no less than the votes of the most intellectual.

If you want to live in a place where smart minds rule the roost, go find another country to plumb your behind in. Because America will ALWAYS be 1 person, 1 vote and in America the stupid rule!!!

T Tanim

Posted by: T Tanim | September 14, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Georgia Peach!!! At least you are honest and even if McCain wins, people like you will bash him.
Thank you

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Make it work.

http://Www'bopppoll.com

Tell your friends. Watch it Jump!

10 people can make it jump 600 per minute!

Posted by: Tired! | September 14, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Did it ever occur to you that Hillary is backing Obama because his beliefs and issues are very close to hers?
Palin and McCain are for everything Hillary was against.
Obama could not pick her as a running mate.
His whole campaign is about change.
The Clinton's have been in the White house for the past eight years...That would not be change.
When they were running against each other there were things said on both sides.
I think they are both mature enough to understand that it's just politics.
I truly believe that Obama will appoint her when he is elected, and she will have her chance on day to be the first woman President. Hillary has earned it..Palin has not.
Don't you dare call yourself a Hillary supporter if you vote for Palin...
if you trysted her enough to want her to be President...Then you should trust her now when she says Obama is the better choice.

Posted by: lis | September 14, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

IQ is very important!! this is 21st century. All other world leaders are thinkers, smart and intelligent. What we have? We have somebody who spends 20 years in public service and still doesn't learn any tricks of politics. Sarah Palin hasn't learn anything obviously, except bragging without explenation.

Posted by: NOT Smarter Than a 5th Grader | September 14, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is one cute chick and thats all I need to know for whom Im voting for.

Posted by: cheese | September 14, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed at all the comments. I am even more amazed at the the way people are voting. Every time I see McCain/Palin I cringe. Who Cares at this point what sex the candidate is? This country is in an economic crisis. But all I see is people saying they are going to vote for Palin because she is a woman. All I can say is I hope you can afford 4 more years of Bush Policies because that is what you will get. My vote will go for Obama/Biden. I am ready to have a different party in the white house.

Posted by: Vix | September 14, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: T Tanim | September 14, 2008 11:17 PM

We vote who we like, and those who are at about our intelligence level are who we like best.
_________________________________
McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class of almost 900. It took Palin five different schools to get through college. Doesn't say much for you, does it?

Posted by: T Tanim | September 14, 2008 11:17 PM

Posted by: JAH | September 14, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Bobster, the majority of us are stupider than lemmings jumping over a cliff in tandem. I consider myself one of the stupid ones. I'm voting mCain.

Posted by: Georgia Peach | September 14, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Listen up, dems:

You're either for us or against us!!!

You're either good or you're evil!!!!

Mission accomplished. McCain is the new President of the USA!!!!

Posted by: McCain/Paliln forever | September 14, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

As a Canadian I look on in amazement.To watch your once great country go downhill in 8 short years.The far right keeps it Bush agenda running as your country increasingly becomes a sad place to live.It's a pity to watch. I guess as with many Republicans you can't argue with ignorance.

Posted by: Phil | September 14, 2008 11:30 PM

REPLY: Ignorance is what got us 9-11 attack and ignorance is what got us to attack Iraq and ignorance is whats going to get McCain elected. Are we stupid or what??

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Why are you talking IQ? If IQ mattered in a president, how come Reagan was so loved? How come he is a hero to most Americans?
Fact is, Reagan and Bush (both Bushes) were figureheads. You all know the people who were actually pulling the strings. In the case of RR, he had a bunch of pretty savvy folks in his "kitchen cabinet". Too bad we can't say the same about the Bushes or they'd have come away with higher ratings. W was, however, perfect. he made a whole lot of money for some of us. Shame about the other problems. They're just collateral damage.
Not all presidents have been figureheads. Nixon was smart, and he was his own man. Outsmarted himself is all. Happens. Clinton was the smartest pres in recent history. He also outsmarted himself.
So I don't think you need to vote for obama just because he is brainier than the rest of the crew. He's already made three possibly fatal mistakes; the first is listening to his own press and believing he is invincible; the second is underestimating the GOP; the third is listening to his wife instead of professional strategists and bypassing Hillary just because Michelle hates her.
If he's really smart, he'll publicly own up to his mistake and correct it by asking Biden to please step down. His ego may not let him. In which case, if he loses, he'll surely know why.

Posted by: stan2 | September 14, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Folks, McCain is old enough to croak at any time. Even if he's certified as fit.

We need to be prepared at a moment's notice to welcome Sarah Paulin in as the 45th (maybe even 44th) president of the USA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

As a Canadian I look on in amazement.To watch your once great country go downhill in 8 short years.The far right keeps it Bush agenda running as your country increasingly becomes a sad place to live.It's a pity to watch. I guess as with many Republicans you can't argue with ignorance.

Posted by: Phil | September 14, 2008 11:30 PM


I THINK CANADIANS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT WHAT OUR PRESIDENTS DO, IT'S HOW STRONGLY THEY BEAT THEIR CHESTS AT THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT GETS OUR VOTE.

FACT IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!

Posted by: GORILLA BOY | September 14, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Reason why Obama isn't gonna win is because he can't even keep his supporters in line - see below - Obama supporters who flagrantly go against their leader's wishes.............

Those of you who are focusing on Sarah Palin's kids and their personal lives, may I remind you that your own candidate, Barack Obama wants you to SHUT UP.
Posted by: Obama/Biden 08 | September 14, 2008 11:15 PM

MAY WE REMIND YOU THAT IF THEY WANT THEIR FAMILIES OF THE LIMITS, THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE STAGES. WHAT THE HELL SO MANY OF THEM ARE DOING AT RNC AND DNC.

Posted by: Thomas da man | September 14, 2008 11:28 PM

OH YOU MEAN, NOT TALKING ABOUT HER PERSONAL PROBLEMS. YOU DON'T GET, IT'S OBAMA DIVERSION TALK, HE HAS TO SAY IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO. ITS IMPORTANT THAT HE KEEPS THE VOTES, NOT LOOSING THEM. McCAIN HAS TROUBLE KEEPING HIS VOTES FROM GOING TO OBAMA. THAT IS ALL IT MATERS, TALKING TRASH ABOUT McCAIN AND PALIN DOESN'T HURT OBAMA, AS LONG HE DOESN'T DO IT. THAT IS OUR AND MEDIA JOB.

Posted by: We Wanna Know | September 14, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

We, the millions-fold members of America's Christian Taliban, populating the 'red states' in abundance and building up steam in the 'blue' states, wish to declare our allegiance and our vote in November for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

CHRISTIAN TALIBAN OF AMERICA

Posted by: CHRISTIAN TALIBAN FOR MCCAIN/PALIN | September 14, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

As a Canadian I look on in amazement.To watch your once great country go downhill in 8 short years.The far right keeps it Bush agenda running as your country increasingly becomes a sad place to live.It's a pity to watch. I guess as with many Republicans you can't argue with ignorance.

Posted by: Phil | September 14, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Reason why Obama isn't gonna win is because he can't even keep his supporters in line - see below - Obama supporters who flagrantly go against their leader's wishes.............

Those of you who are focusing on Sarah Palin's kids and their personal lives, may I remind you that your own candidate, Barack Obama wants you to SHUT UP.
Posted by: Obama/Biden 08 | September 14, 2008 11:15 PM

MAY WE REMIND YOU THAT IF THEY WANT THEIR FAMILIES OF THE LIMITS, THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE STAGES. WHAT THE HELL SO MANY OF THEM ARE DOING AT RNC AND DNC.

Posted by: Thomas da man | September 14, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't give a rat's ass about whether my old heroine, Hillary Clinton is asking me to vote for Obama or not. I DON'T CARE. I had respect for her when she was winning but now that she let Obama push her aside, her words count for noothing, absolutely nothing in how I'm going to vote.

I'm voting for Sarah Palin because Hillary let me down by not winning the nomination.

Obama???? Poooooooohhh!

Posted by: Becky from Nashville | September 14, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

-Dumped his crippled wife with kids for milionaire blond
-Voted always for Bush agendas
-Don't know how many houses he has
-Change his campaign to message with "change" (it took him awhile)
-Pregnant teenage daughter
-Firing of ex-brother in law
-Fake visit to Iraq
-Same plans as Bush's

Posted by: Keep Counting | September 14, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama screwed up when he selected someone with such experience as Joe Biden to be his running mate instead of just a... woman. any woman. He should have selected Clinton as VP. Leave to the republicans to put the symbolic woman on the ticket and now McCain is ahead.

It doesn't matter about experience or anything else, it's all politics and women everywhere will want to vote for Palin just to see her get VP and then President in 1-8yrs!

Democrats screwed themselves again! lol

This election is over, Obama will not recover for daring to make a decision based on any kind of rational basis. He's losing steam already.....when will Democrats learn that politics is only about who can fight hardest and dirtiest? seriously, americans are too stupid to see policy and the masses are easily swayed..the Republicans have known this for years-since when has a VP ever won a election for a President? now we all now when 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who are focusing on Sarah Palin's kids and their personal lives, may I remind you that your own candidate, Barack Obama wants you to SHUT UP.
Posted by: Obama/Biden 08 | September 14, 2008 11:15 PM

MAY WE REMIND YOU THAT IF THEY WANT THEIR FAMILIES OF THE LIMITS, THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE STAGES. WHAT THE HELL SO MANY OF THEM ARE DOING AT RNC AND DNC.

Posted by: We Wanna Know | September 14, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Those who think that Americans today will ever elect an intellectual (like Obama) to be President are incredibly naive and out of touch with reality.

We vote who we like, and those who are at about our intelligence level are who we like best.

For most Americans, smart people are merely snobs.

Posted by: T Tanim | September 14, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama screwed up when he did not select Clinton for VP, it let the Republican strategist devise a plan to of course put a woman on the ticket to get those votes and all pissed of women, it doesn't matter about politics women everywhere will want to vote for Palin just to see her get VP and then President in 4-8yrs!

Democrats screwed themselves again! lol

This election is over, Obama will not recover and is losing steam already.....when will Democrats learn? seriously, americans are too stupid to see policy and the masses are easily swayed..the Republicans have known this for years-since when has a VP ever won a election for a President? now we all now when 2008!

Posted by: Democrat | September 14, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Bobster--That IS funny about Bush and the IQ test. I'm not sure if I am smarter than Bush but I really do want someone way smarter than I am this time and that would be Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:13 PM

Salute to your post. Obama is smarter than McCain, Palin, Bush and Chenney.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who are focusing on Sarah Palin's kids and their personal lives, may I remind you that your own candidate, Barack Obama wants you to SHUT UP.

Posted by: Obama/Biden 08 | September 14, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Bobster--That IS funny about Bush and the IQ test. I'm not sure if I am smarter than Bush but I really do want someone way smarter than I am this time and that would be Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

We're just soooooooo happy that someone with boobs is going to be the prez!!!!!!!! (mccain will die sometime in his first term)
Posted by: Suzie Q | September 14, 2008 11:07 PM

McCAIN WILL DIE SOMETIME IN HIS FIRST TERM????

WHAT YOU MEAN? SO FAR YOU HAVE POSTED 2 BLOGS AND THEY ARE BOTH SIMPLY DUMB!!!!


Posted by: SecretService4Blondes | September 14, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has class and style. She's nothing like temper tantrum McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I had given up hope. I actually thought the American public had it figured out. I've never been so happy being wrong.
Thanks to the current administration, I've saved about $145,000 in taxes these past 7 years. I'll save about $20,000 this year. I was afraid the free ride was over. I thought it wouldn't last. Now, I have hope again. Sorry about your gas prices, but even though my car gets only 12 mpg in the city (it does get get up to 18 on the road, so they tell me) the extra few thou it costs me every year is more than made up by the "small" profits I've been making on my various oil stocks. BTW, if you didn't invest in oil when the oil men took over the country, well, what can I say? Hope you didn't invest in any other part of the market though, that really would have been a bummer.
Well, thanks again you all. Please keep the faith. Vote for "family values" and elect people who have none. I just love it.
If I knew more than a dozen or so of you yokels would get to read this, I'd have kept my mouth shut, but I'm positive, really positive this will go no further.

Posted by: stan2 | September 14, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

My girlfriends and I have switched our votes to McCain. We are so excited that a woman is going to VP! Yeah, I know, Hillary is for abortion, Sarah is not, Hillary is against guns, Sarah is for them, Hillary supports liberal causes, Sarah supports conservative ones. None of that matters. The point is that Sarah is a woman and an attractive one at that. If Sarah had been on a ticket before Hillary was out campaining my girlfriends and I probably would have picked Sarah to begin with. We're just soooooooo happy that someone with boobs is going to be the prez!!!!!!!! (mccain will die sometime in his first term)

Posted by: Suzie Q | September 14, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

My girlfriends and I have switched our votes to McCain. We are so excited that a woman is going to VP! Yeah, I know, Hillary is for abortion, Sarah is not, Hillary is against guns, Sarah is for them, Hillary supports liberal causes, Sarah supports conservative ones. None of that matters. The point is that Sarah is a woman and an attractive one at that. If Sarah had been on a ticket before Hillary was out campaining my girlfriends and I probably would have picked Sarah to begin with. We're just soooooooo happy that someone with boobs is going to be the prez!!!!!!!! (mccain will die sometime in his first term)

Posted by: Suzie Q | September 14, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

This quote by anonymous killed me:

"Trig was born in April and Bristol is FIVE months pregnant, perhaps for a second time. It is possible sweet, obedient Briston got herself knocked up again a week or two after Trig's birth. Yes, it is very possible."

Are you insane? Try 6 weeks, MINIMUM to even HAVE sex again after giving birth. She'd have a whole lot of pain to get past on week 2. And the odds of her getting pregnant? Pretty slim, even IF she started ovulating again a month after giving birth (which is rare, but could happen). I love how educated people are about basic human anatomy, much less politics. Research your vote, and exercise your right to keep it to yourself!

Posted by: Anonymous
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I would say my "possible second Bristol pregnancy" did NOT kill you as you had time to post your own "educated" opinion. It is very possible for women to get pregnant a week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, etc. after giving birth. It is NOT impossible! Not every couple follows the six-week "rule". Bristol is a sexually active teenager --- inspite of her mother preaching to the rest of womanhood to abstain from having sex until marriage. Teenagers are prone to act on "emotion" rather than on reason. YOU should know that!!

NOT everything is black and white, there ARE shades of gray which account for "exceptions".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain will definitely win this election because even though he's only a bit ahead, he can now rely strongly on the combined support of evangelists, white supremists, and conservatives.

NO WAY will any of those groups vote for Obama.

Posted by: xxc | September 14, 2008 10:59 PM

THOSE SAME GROUPS VOTED FOR BUSH LAST TWO TIMES AND THEY GOT POOP IN THEIR HANDS. Whites are becoming minority, abortion is still legal and liberal media is tronger than ever. NO WAY THEY WILL SUPPORT McCAIN, THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT OBAMA TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.

Posted by: WhiteCorrector | September 14, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF LIBERALS FORMERLY FOR HILLARY WHO NOW STAUNCHLY SUPPORTING ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE SARAH PALIN!!!!

GO MCCAIN & PALIN!!!!!!!

Posted by: No Hillary? Then Palin! | September 14, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Ya'll got this dancing George Bush on the right side of the screen, with his IQ test.
Its fynny and ironic.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

McCain will definitely win this election because even though he's only a bit ahead, he can now rely strongly on the combined support of evangelists, white supremists, and conservatives.

NO WAY will any of those groups vote for Obama.

Posted by: xxc | September 14, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Big Dog | September 14, 2008 10:57 PM
This is for those of you who think McCain will change Washington.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Albert Einstein

REPLY: You know, we gotta stay the course!!!!!

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

This is for those of you who think McCain will change Washington.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Albert Einstein

Posted by: Big Dog | September 14, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I got it now!

KNOW THE WAY, KNOW HOW, KNOW MCCAIN, KNOW PALIN.

Posted by: pete | September 14, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

My girlfriends and I have switched our votes to McCain. We are so excited that a woman is going to VP!
Posted by: Suzy | September 14, 2008 10:48 PM

Ooooh, how sweet. You must be so proud. Are you both blondes?

Posted by: Biaaatch | September 14, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Big blog posts are plain stupid. Who's gonna read all that crap!!!! STOP PLEASE.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

My girlfriends and I have switched our votes to McCain. We are so excited that a woman is going to VP!

Posted by: Suzy | September 14, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Message to all of you who are condemning and criticizing Senator Hillary Clinton for campaigning for Senator Obama----has it ever occurred to you that Hillary Clinton is indeed a much bigger person than any of you and perhaps much bigger than all of you put together?? Hilliary is, first of all an AMERICAN, she LOVES her country and her country comes FIRST!! She is WORKING FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY AND FOR US, SHE IS SUPPORTING AND CAMPAIGNING FOR SENATOR OBAMA BECAUSE SHE CLEARLY SEES THE DAMAGE THE BUSH/MCCAIN/REPUBLICANS HAVE BESTOWED UPON OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PEOPLE. SHE, LIKE MOST OF US, WANT A DEMOCRAT AS OUR LEADER TO CLEAN UP THE MESS BUSH, CHENEY, MCCAIN, AND THEIR REPUBLICAN PARTY HAVE LEFT US WITH. PLEASE, fellow AMERICANS, follow Hillary Clinton's lead and do the RIGHT THING because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO at this urgent time in our country. NO HOW, NO WAY, NO REPUBLICANS, NO MCCAIN, NO PALIN IN THE OVAL OFFICE!! Would you recommend the principal of a small junior high school who became the superintendent of a small highschool to be the Vice President/President of Harvard or Yale?? This is what McCain, Palin,and their campaign are asking you to do with Palin. That juniorhigh principal and highschool superintendent is NOT qualified for Vice President or President of Harvard, Yale, or any other university. Likewise, that small town mayor, small population governor is NOT qualified to fill the shoes of VEEP and President should McCain die of old age or becomes incoherent due to his dementia/Altzheimers. Please VOTE SMART, WISE, AND FOR THE BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY....THIS IS WHAT HILLARY IS DOING AND THIS IS WHAT SHE WOULD LOVE FOR HER SUPPORTERS AND OTHERS TO DO AS WELL. Thank YOU, Hillary R. Clinton!!

Posted by: NinaK | September 14, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

This quote by anonymous killed me:

"Trig was born in April and Bristol is FIVE months pregnant, perhaps for a second time. It is possible sweet, obedient Briston got herself knocked up again a week or two after Trig's birth. Yes, it is very possible."

Are you insane? Try 6 weeks, MINIMUM to even HAVE sex again after giving birth. She'd have a whole lot of pain to get past on week 2. And the odds of her getting pregnant? Pretty slim, even IF she started ovulating again a month after giving birth (which is rare, but could happen). I love how educated people are about basic human anatomy, much less politics. Research your vote, and exercise your right to keep it to yourself!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Biden said it himself yesterday, Obama would be better off with Hillary Clinton, to win.
Posted by: David | September 14, 2008 10:28 PM

WRONG: Joe Biden says "it might be better pick than me", he said "MIGHT" not WOULD. You gotta stop concealing rael and true information from voters. Might probably means "NOT"!!!!


Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I backed Hillary but I, in good conscience, can not just switch to a Republican vote because she didn't win the nomination. Sarah Palin is no different than any other politician. You need to go to www.adamwoodworth.blogspot.com to learn more about her.

Posted by: Duke of Lockport | September 14, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Hillary lost her point. We are fighting to protect our country and our families and we can't do that with stupid democracy anymore. That is why we voting for Palin. That decrepit old man will die in his first month in DC (he is a sick old man...) and then we will get our Palin to overturn all this stupid democratic laws that messed up our country. As we speak here, Chavez, the Russians and the Iranians are sending boats full of AK-47s through the Everglades in Florida to arm MS-13 Latino and Black Obama supporters gang-bangers all across our Nation. Democracy is going to kill us, only our White Christian Leader can guide us! She said she is going to lead us on the war against Russia! And we going to follow her! Palin 2008, 2012, 2016 and Forever!!!!

Posted by: We have to fight | September 14, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Clintons do. Its Sarah all the way baby. And yeah I agree what Mccain said on Chelsea, CHELSEA IS UGLY because her FATHER WAS JANET RENO.
Posted by: carol | September 14, 2008 10:07 PM

Carol you are one of those dump women who have no sense but full of hatred. Do you honestly think that Chelsea gives a damn what you and McSame says. You are one of those ignorant woman who sits and complained about not having enough money to put food on your table, money for gas, health care etc., etc. You are just one dump "b" who would be first to complain when all woman's rights are taken from you. You need to educate yourself with the issues and not hatred.

Posted by: ob08 | September 14, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Biden said it himself yesterday, Obama would be better off with Hillary Clinton, to win.

It is now obvious the republicans have out smarted everyone,
with a woman that calls herself a pitbull with lip stick!!!!

There is only one chance to win and that is Biden must step down and Hillary must be VP
Barack you let you stupid ego lose this election because you would not have Hillary on as VP.

I have sent you $300 and bought bumper stickers.

But now I see that you will lose because you failed to see the obvious,
you needed Hillary and the”” History of a woman”” on the ticket to win.

Instead, you failed to see the importance of this,
it is so evident now,

The republicans who were such losers, you are now helping them to win.

PUT HILLARY AS VP NOW!! DAMN IT

Posted by: David | September 14, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who voted for Bush 2000, Bush 2004, and are now panting after Karl Rove's sock puppet and Gov. Spokesmodel should have their voting card rescinded.

The day before GWB got into office the value of the dollar was high, unemployment was low, we were not at war, and the government was running a surplus.

With Bush in charge our country is sunk in a war that has killed more of our people than were killed on 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing combined. The dollar is weak, gas is outrageous, we are in debt up to our eyeballs to countries like China, we have no rational energy policy to reduce our dependence on the people who (according to Bush) hate us, major banks are failing, our jobs are being shipped away, and it is no joke we are on the brink of disaster if we don't get this turned around.

Every great power in history has fallen into decline; GWB has pushed our country, the greatest country on earth and the sole superpower, to the brink. We can let it slide or work to save it.

McCain has been hopeless on economic matters. Note: you don't get to remain a superpower if your economy falls apart. Just ask Russia, a remnant of the former superpower Soviet Union.

Posted by: ZD | September 14, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Actually the Clinton were pretty much a part of the established Washington way of doing things. They were less conservative, but still deeply tied to special interests. They were sure they had the election locked up.

Bill Clinton called it a fairy tale because everyone knows you can't be in Washington unless you are deeply tied to the special interests becuase that is where your funding comes from.

The thought that an relatively unknown man, a black man at that, who had NO TIES to special interests, nor to the power brokers of Washington, could ever think that he had a chance of winning the democratic nomination was truly a FAIRY TALES!

Everyone knows you have to be deeply in debt to the Washington elite to have a shot in this game.

But guess what, Obama did something Washington still can't quite believe. They do not understand how he brought together so many of the middle-class. They can't understand how the middle-class stepped up and funded his campaign without special interest money. They were, and are still in shock.

In fact, the Clintons were so sure that the American people would let Obama fall down, that they were incredulous that he kept staying in the race. Remember when Hillary simply would not stop? Because neither she, nor Bill, nor the rest of the people behind could believe what was happening. They were in denial!

But the fact is, Barack brought together more people than had ever been brought together before. Barack energized more people to a level of energy than had ever been done before, and it's not over. People are energized and they are behind Obama.

But I'll tell ya, Washington still can't believe it. They thought they had wiped the middle class out, but we are still here and ready to take back our country.

Posted by: dave | September 14, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

PRO LIFE MY ASS!!
Republicans had congress, senate, president, supreme court and they haven't even try to overturn Roe vs Wade. To me it sounds that republicans are "pro choice". They are saying pro life just to get evangelicals to vote for them. Either overturn it or shut up forever. Abortion is just fine.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Biden said it himself yesterday, Obama would be better off with Hillary Clinton, to win.

It is now obvious the republicans have out smarted everyone,
with a woman that calls herself a pitbull with lip stick!!!!

There is only one chance to win and that is Biden must step down and Hillary must be VP
Barack you let you stupid ego lose this election because you would not have Hillary on as VP.

I have sent you $300 and bought bumper stickers.

But now I see that you will lose because you failed to see the obvious,
you needed Hillary and the”” History of a woman”” on the ticket to win.

Instead, you failed to see the importance of this,
it is so evident now,

The republicans who were such losers, you are now helping them to win.

PUT HILLARY AS VP NOW!! DAMN IT

Posted by: David | September 14, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I bet McCain can't contain himself when he looks at that sexy MILF Sarah Pain with her sexy skirts, panty hose and high heel pumps. i bet he blows a load whenever she gives a speech on stage (At McCain's age, it would be a trickle though). I want McCain and Sarah Palin to win so that they can do it in the Oval Office everyday.

McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: the racist mccains | September 14, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is our Best choice - taken away. All you idiots who support McCain and Obama will reap what they have sown.

No one is more qualified than Hillary to not only be President, but get out country back on track.

Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant, stupid and wrong. DON't drink to Kool-Aid 2008!

Posted by: Ben Preisner | September 14, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Here's the real UNITED States of America:

Conservatives, evangelicals, white supremists UNITED against Barack Obama.


McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: McCain/Palin 08 | September 14, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

http://www.factcheck.org.

They already proved the Obama Team's dirty lies against Sarah Palen and her family were just lies.

Obama is another Hitler who is using character assassination as a weapon to become President.

Look up the lies about book banning, Palins' daughter mother Trig, Sarah's affair with a city councilman, Sarah cut funding to special needs children.....ALL LIES DELIVERED BY THE OBAMA SMEAR MACHINE!

Do a google search on Chicago Machine Politics + Obama and educate yourselves children. You don't deserve to vote if you're NOT INFORMED. Men have died to protect that right for you! WAKE UP and turn off the 'E' Channel!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

YOU CAN TAKE EVERYTHING OBAMA,JOE BIDEN,
THE CLINTONS,AND MATT DAMON HAVE EVER SAID AND PUT IT ON A PIECE OF CONFETTI,AND FLUSH
IT DOWN THE DEMOCRATIC TOILET!
THESE PEOPLE REPRESENT ALL THAT IS WRONG
WITH AMERICA!!SO NO OBAMA,NO JOE BIDEN,
NO CLINTONS,AND NO HOLLYWOOD LIBERALS!!
THEY ALL SUCK!!
GO!!!!!!!!!!! GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE THE SOCIALIST PUCHS PAY SARAH!!!

Posted by: CLEM KA DITTLE HOPPER | September 14, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Hilary, we have moved to Mccain as Obama is too shallow to contain this country and too weak to serve it. Obama, Hilary, you didn't realize does not belong to anyone as someone who has left his father's heritage behind--he cant be honest to anyone.

Posted by: kuta | September 14, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Hilary, we have moved to Mccain as Obama is too shallow to contain this country and too week to serve it. Obama, Hilary, you didn't realize does not belong to anyone as someone who has left his father's heritage behind--he cant be honest to anyone.

Posted by: kuta | September 14, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Shannon.

Let's see, simply put, we can choose between a brilliant guy who wants to effectively change the Country for the better, get us on the right track again... or worse of the same! Seriously, this R ticket is a time bomb.

I'm sorry some of you don't realize that the rich want to rid America of its middle class -- our nation's biggest voting block. That's why the top 1% get all the huge tax breaks. The breaks that McCain wants to make permanent, and which Obama wants to stop.

Most of us are moderate I believe. There is still a system in place that I think works, but Bush has really blown a hole in our democracy by vetoing everything he wasn't in favor of.

Hope is on the way. Americans: Vote Democratic. You'll be in good hands with a thoughtful, intelligent President who will surround himself with a cabinet of opposing views... Just like Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Jan from West Seattle | September 14, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

It's a no-brainer.
Obama has put together in his own words and...

Obama is a sexist.

Posted by: pete | September 14, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Has McCain had sex with Sarah Palin yet? The world wants to know. If I were McCain, I'd tap that curvacious booty everyday TWICE!

Posted by: the racist mccains | September 14, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

How is he going to unite America when he devided his own party!
Wise up America! Vote for real leadership! - McCAIN / PALIN 2008!
Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:14 PM

With all democrats in senate and congress, McCain can only divide America. We need Obama the Democrat to blend with congress and senate and unite America. As we all know, Bush is not doing anything because his agendas are not going thru this strong congress and senate. Same will be with McCain, his agendas have to different than Bush's, and then we can talk.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Liberal or Conservative - With no record it all means nothing! - McCain has decades of proven success.

Obama's record cannot even match Hillary's!

McCain can unite America - Obama is a divider (just ask the Clintons).

Posted by: Todd Rodriguez | September 14, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anonymous who posted this at 10:01 p.m.: "Obama lost my vote when he lowered himself to spread disgusting rumors about Sarah Palen having secret babies, affairs with men, lies about her record on children with special needs and making up stories about her banning books, and more which I won't even mention."

And all other McCain fans, please check out http://www.factcheck.org. It wasn't Obama who started those rumors. You'll see who is telling the truth more often in this campaign. If McCain and Palin can't even get the facts right about Obama, how can we trust them with national security?

Posted by: Former Republican | September 14, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Lol you people need to get your head straight, if we vote for Palin cause she is a woman we are just gonna sink deeper into the hell we have already created. You all complain about energy, the economy, and healthcare and arent willing to sacrifice for these things. Obama is the only one talking about issues and Mccain are just playing you to distract you from the failures of the last 8 years. At the end of the day ask yourself are we better off. Go to cnn.com to see there competing tax plans Obama favors middle class it spells it out. But who cares this is a poopularity culture contest about race and gender just like in 2004 it was about war service where bush who didnt serve in the military criticized Kerry and ended up looking like a general lol. Come on how dumb are we or are we just ignorant. Im not endorsing anyone at all im just saying look at the issues see who will help us most then decide.

Posted by: derek | September 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a Patriot and an True American Hero. He devoted 50 years of his life to our country.

The youth of our country sadly can't recognize what makes up true character today. They value youth and good looks which is why celebrities today are dumber than they ever were.

Obama cannot lead America. Even his Vice-Presidential selection said so. Bill Clinton called him a make believe fairy tale. Hillary said all he did was make a speech in 2004. He is the most liberal member of the senate. How is he going to unite America when he devided his own party!

Wise up America! Vote for real leadership! - McCAIN / PALIN 2008!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Clinton and Obama had a historic primary contest. But they are both progressives who want to do right by the country, unlike McCain, who is completely in the pocket book of oil men.

Palin doesn't have a 100th of the intelligence, curiosity and competence of Hillary.

- proud former Hillary supporter now for Obama

Posted by: NI | September 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Musharaff just called!!! He wants to vote for the same.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Republicans always preach about America's glory and use their ethnocentric mentality to win campaigns. For them its all about "Good and Evil". I hope this election, people use their minds, not their pride in appointing the next president of this nation. They say " Barack Obama has no experience!!!" The past shows all of us that experience is not relevant at all, without intelligence and good management. Its 2008, please leve behind all the ignorant non-sense that put us where we are now!!! Obama is the smart choice!!

Posted by: marseille | September 14, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Liberal means progressive...which means "to make progress" which means CHANGE. Conservative means regressive.."that which clings to antiquated views and religious mythology." That means the SAME. McCain means Bush which means corruption...which means a 200 Billion surplus squandered that is now a 500 Billion deficit...a 9 trillion national debt (most of it owned by the Chinese)...a failed and immoral war (4000 dead Americans, 30,000 maimed Americans, 100,000 dead Iraqis.) A recession with no end in sight and a health care crises. How anyone with a conscience and half a brain could vote Republican/McSame is beyond me. OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT.

Posted by: ProudLiberal | September 14, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

People really do not understand the oil issue so here are three main overviews of how US Oil will work, Nuclear Reactors, and Alternative Energy. First US Oil.

US OIL

1) We all agree we need to stop enriching middle eastern countries by purchasing their oil.

2) Even if we drill ANWR and offshore we can only supplement 8-10% of our oil consumption by 2025 not icluding growth in consuption.

3) Drilling does not reduce the price of gas, and in fact is more expensive than oil from the middle east which is why we don't produce much now.

4)When we do start our own flow of oil and reduce our purchases from the middle east, they will respond by lowering prices because they will want to put US production out of business. It's competition.

5) US oil companies will cry foul and ask congress to step in and tax incoming oil so they can be competitive.

6) US oil companies will also require subsidies by the US government so that they can stay in business (and make a profit).

7) The US taxpayers will bear the brunt of the cost of US oil production, while US oil companies still turn healthy profits.

NUCLEAR REACTORS

1) Electricity is one of our cheaper form of energy.

2) We have plenty of coal to produce electricity.

3) Making more electricity does not reduce our dependency on oil, unless we build electric cars.

4) If we build electric cars they would typically be charged at night.

5) Power plants take 3 days to ramp up to full speed. Therefore they must run at full power all night, even though all that electricity is never used and cannot be stored.

6) The current cheap electricity we produce at night can satisfy our need to charge electric cars without building Nuclear Reactors.

ALTERNATIVE ENERGY

1) Alternative energy is a reality now, but it is more expensive than oil from the middle east.

2) The current cost of alternative energy is very similar to the cost of domestic oil. (Oil we produce)

3) The cost of alternative energy in the year 2025 is hugely less expensive than what the cost of oil is in 2025 produced domestically.

4) If the same government subsidies and market protection were afforded to alternative energy as oil, the cost would be similar to the cost of other energy sources.

WHY REPUBLICAN PARTY PUSHED OIL AND NUCLEAR

1) Because oil and nuclear power can be controlled and profited from. Not anyone can drill for oil or build a nuclear plant.

2) Alternative energy is can be produced by anyone at any level without special permits. 1000's of small start-up companies would be the ones to produce alternative energy, leaving current big business high and dry.

3) The cost of alternative energy continues to decrease year after year. Not good for big energy companies intent of increasing their profits each year.

4) The rewards of alternative energy will go primarily to small and medium sized businesses, and produce an entirely new industry in which the middle-class can participate and profit from.

Think about this before you vote please.

Posted by: dave | September 14, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Democrats and Obamacans's courting all Woman Republican and Independent Voters!

The Mom Vote
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1197846/4274384

"No Way, no how, no McCain and no Palin."
Hillary Clinton

The real change team for the last 19 months
Change we need

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | September 14, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anonymous - i doubt that's when Obama lost you vote, because you are spreading more lies about Obama. Obama never leaked any rumors about Palin, those leaks were dam leaks from her own life. No one has to poke holes in Palin's record, she did it herself. Whoever you are, it is more McSame. Clearly, obama has conducted himself with honesty. For God sakes, even Bush is implementing his war policies and timelines. The war was in stagnate draw mode until Obama came on board, so why you want to undermine the only route our Country can take back to its own credo and honor, is beyond me. Check our conscience. Americans need to take back Washington DC away from the predator banking industry; credit card industry; pharmaceutical companies, Wall Street. We need reform not replay.

Posted by: Shannon | September 14, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Clintons do. Its Sarah all the way baby. And yeah I agree what Mccain said on Chelsea, CHELSEA IS UGLY because her FATHER WAS JANET RENO.

Posted by: carol | September 14, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

We will run this country and decide what other countries we will attack, we are the ones who will decide who is going to get contract with government, we will dictate gas and food prices, we will decide what government will do, and we want John McCain and Sarah Palin to win.

Posted by: Lobyist | September 14, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Al Qaeda just called - They want us to vote for the Muslim.

Posted by: Joe DeNiro | September 14, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

You people are crazy (please, NOT all of you.... I am exclusively addressing those among you - who, by way of their ludicrous responses - have signaled to me that they have the same mentality of the Germans that screamed HI HITLER).
Wake up American!
I could not be more appalled!
Are we a country of idiots?

McCain has changed! I do not recognize the man!
I have never voted for a Democrat, but I will this time!
Shame on this country if the average American will not take time to discern/plan ahead/read... for the sake of their own family!

Posted by: J.Z.S | September 14, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama lost my vote when he lowered himself to spread disgusting rumors about Sarah Palen having secret babies, affairs with men, lies about her record on children with special needs and making up stories about her banning books, and more which I won't even mention.

The Democrats have reached an all time low - that maybe why they have lost 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections.

They cannot even run a civilized campaign - how can they run America. No candidate in history has such a insignificant amount of experience than Obama. He cannot even admit his faith nor past alliances with terrorist William Ayers and hate monger Reverend Wright. It's an insult to Hillary Clinton and the American people that Obama is even on the ballot.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Somebody please tell the republicans that the 50s called and they want their fear back.

Posted by: Cosmic | September 14, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Poor Hillary Poor Poor Hillary,
My heart goes out to you, for being massacred by Wild Willy and then the entire Dem party. Your confidence is shattered, but grab your Mo Jo and run Independent.

The truth is that I was going to vote for you, because women were the change, not a guy named Hussein, during a war with ISLAM.

I will not change the message this year or the goal. A woman will be in the White house 2008.

IN 2012 THE TASK WILL NOT BE A NEW CONCEPT TO HAVE A WOMAN PRESIDENT. With a Dem Congress there is little Republicans can do anyway.
All of the issues spoken about are not issues Presidents can change. (someone should tell that big ego Obama how it works)


Palin 2008 VP

Hillary 2012

Actually if Clinton were to Join Lieberman, and take 1st position, change would come to Washington anyway.
Independents and a woman would run the place.

Posted by: dotty | September 14, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Our sovereign and almighty God shall prevail today, this November and always.
His will shall be done, and McCain and Palin will predominate with absolute victory. In Him we can rest assured.
All the rest is wasted words and angst over something we cannot control. And the USA will continue to be the greatest nation on Gods green earth. Amen?

Posted by: Paul
----------------
Paul, do YOU REALLY THINK God is pleased with McCain and with Palin and all their hypocracy, slander, deceit, and outright lies about Senator Obama?? Do YOU really think that?? One of God's TEN COMMANDMENTS IS: "THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST ANOTHER", another is "TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED"! I believe God and His goodness will prevail and I do not believe He is looking too kindly at McCain and Pilan. God believes in TRUTH and not in slash-and-burn tactic which the republicans are promoting and using big time. Please do not use God's name in the same light as McCain's and Pilan's.....Both these characters sold their souls to the devil a long time ago!! Which reminds me, Pilan believes in ABSTINANCE ONLY....NO contraceptives, not birth control methods....ONLY ABSTINANCE!! Result: Her 16 year old teenager obviously disagrees with her MOM...as she did NOT abstain from having sex!! Today Sarah was shown in an interview just before she "had her baby"; Sarah did NOT LOOK PREGNANT AT ALL!! NOT EVEN ONE LITTLE BIT!! There are those who say Trig is actually Bristol's baby and the Pilans are claiming him as theirs. Bristol was pulled out of school for a few months before and during Trig's birth. Trig was born in April and Bristol is FIVE months pregnant, perhaps for a second time. It is possible sweet, obedient Briston got herself knocked up again a week or two after Trig's birth. Yes, it is very possible. I'll say one thing for sure, Sarah (and McCain) have lied so much, it has become a daily mantra for them, the more they lie they better they think they are. It is VERY difficult to discern ANYTHING they say as being the truth. I, personally, have NO respect for either of them!! Also, Sarah Palin's voice is very aggravating, it is a combinaton of a whine and a shrill and darn hard on one's ears. Small time town mayor of 5,500 people, small time governor of the 4th SMALLEST state in our union. McCain cold have chosen Daisy Duck or Minnie Mouse and the repubs would have been just as excited...as long as it had the female genitalia. Same for those women who will vote for a female only because they too wear panties and bras and think we need such a donned person as our veep and NOT because she qualifies otherwise. The mere fact that she wears panties and bras is enough qualification for them!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

read my lipstick Hillary....no we won't be voting for Obama, Nope!

Posted by: nodeal | September 14, 2008 9:52 PM

SHE WAS REFFERING TO THOSE WHO WERE SUPPORTING HER, NOT DUMBASS LIFETIME REPUBLICANS, OK, GOT THAT NOW!!!!

Posted by: NoDeal4BushAgain | September 14, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Senator Joe Biden "Obama is NOT READY to lead"

Posted by: Joanne in Wasilla | September 14, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

read my lipstick Hillary....no we won't be voting for Obama, Nope!

Posted by: nodeal | September 14, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

There are two articles out right now about the Palin's that I believe everyone should read, the republicans as well, you won't, but you should. One is Todd Palin's unpaid, unofficial presense in private Alaska government meetings and his involvement in troopergate. The other one is from New York times title Once Elected Palin Hires Friends & Lashes Foes. The last one is long as it interviews people who know her and worked with her from city council, mayor and then as governor. Really, really scary stuff. It also talks about the secrecy of the Alaskan government under Palin, sound familiar?
Hilary know the stakes in this election. I respect her enormously. There no way, no way, I could EVER support Palin. You want to know what McCain represents? Research his record.

Posted by: washingtonstate2008 | September 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of "Marks and Lenin" does anybody else remember this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Can_You_Be_in_Two_Places_at_Once_When_You're_Not_Anywhere_at_All
?


Posted by: Cosmic | September 14, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

"The joke of this whole Hillary campaigning for Obama is the fact that the Democrat party and Obama NEEDS HER TO WIN! Does noone see the irony in this?"

Hillary's going around campaigning to have Obama win.

You think?

Not quite.

She's got to get back in the good graces of the blacks.

Notice how she's going to areas which just happen to be near major cities like Cleveland and Akron. Just coincidental that the the large number of blacks in those cities will read about her wanting to help Obama so bad.

Irony of ironies:

Clinton wants to be seen as trying to help Obama while hoping like the dickens he loses but doing it in such a way that the blacks don't wise up and when Obama loses making sure that the blacks, who threw her under the bus, will want her back in the driver's seat in 2012.

Posted by: True Observer | September 14, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

How can we get caught up in this sleazy debate. We need to protest at http://www.boppoll.com. Team Obama, get the word out that we should be setting times for Bop sessions to get McCain's bop cont up! 60 per minute! 10 People bopping 600 per minute.


Posted by: OMG IS THIS FOR REAL! | September 14, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"Have we not learned from history where such blind worship leads?"

You forgot George W. Bush.

Posted by: el_barto | September 14, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Oh, ad hominem fear mongering posts are just like mad libs. All you have to do is change a few words, and they can apply to anyone.

Will you wackos never learn?

If you talk about real issues and policies, rather than your conspiracy theories and hatefulness, then your posts cannot be so easily turned around and directed right back at those you support.

So, please, take your wacky fringe views elsewhere.

Posted by: mad libs poster | September 14, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Why is the media so bias towards MCCAIN?
There is something very wrong in our society when the media selects a candidate as a favorite.
Have we not learned from history where such blind worship leads?
The dictators Hitler, Mussolini, Kim Jong Il all began as a cult of personality worship. The media for these dictators were slanted during their rise and then controlled after they assumed power. MCCAIN is clearly following the same pattern.
MCCAIN and his wife have a horrendous history of evil and whenever facts of MCCAIN’s infamous life is mentioned, the press ignores it. But for Hillary, OBAMA or BIDEN, if they so much as sneeze, they are mercilessly taken thought the ringer and insulted by the press relentlessly.
Is this because we are afraid to criticize a POW or because some powers above are manipulating the media?
- It is also interesting to note, that my MCCAIN critical posting are often banned or removed by the mediators of blogs or newspapers. A shocking example of this is The Swamp - Tribune's Washington Bureau who will almost NEVER print anything anti-MCCAIN yet they are ubiquitous throughout the Internet.
MCCAIN is not even elected yet, and MCCAIN’s cult followers have already managed to implement restrictions on Freedom of Speech. What will happen to us after he is elected? He will teach our youth to be thugs like himself. And if you don’t know why I call him a thug, find out how he got elected as senator and look at all the ill associations he has hobnobbed with throughout his life. Remember when he SAID CHELSEA CLINTON WAS UGLY BECAUSE HER FATHER WAS JANET RENO.
We have clearly become a society whose depth of thinking is equivalent to that of Britney Spears and we will pay for this lazy intelligence and lack of critical thinking skills with our country. We are setting the stage for an American Mussolini.

Posted by: julie alton is racist | September 14, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are treasonous dogs.

Posted by: JakeD | September 14, 2008 9:23 PM

REPLY: JakeD, how could you insult the animal dog like that?

Posted by: Animal Activist | September 14, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I long for days one could distrust all politicians equally, but there's been such an arrogance and hatred and theft and deadly incompetence from the "Christian" GOP since it took congress in 1994 that I find it utterly impossible to feel an equal disdain for the Dems.

Godspeed, Obama-Biden! And God strike down the Bushco Republicans and their deluded chickenhawk followers.

Posted by: Kate G. | September 14, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

How could any independent voter vote for PALIN after knowing about WASILLA ASSEMBLY OF GOD and HER affiliation, unless they subscribe to their doctrine. See the post below. PALIN listened to this for THIRTY years. SHE IS STILL a member and attending. SHE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT HER church only for personal/politcal gain. If you are still considering whom to vote for this November do the research and draw your own conclusion - the link below is a start. After the research, ask yourself - is this the WOMAN I want KIND OF leading the country? Will SHE represent me and what I stand for?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Posted by: anonymous_is_racist | September 14, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Why is the media so bias towards Obama?
There is something very wrong in our society when the media selects a candidate as a favorite.
Have we not learned from history where such blind worship leads?
The dictators Hitler, Mussolini, Kim Jong Il all began as a cult of personality worship. The media for these dictators were slanted during their rise and then controlled after they assumed power. Obama is clearly following the same pattern.
Obama and his wife have a horrendous history of evil and whenever facts of Obama’s infamous life is mentioned, the press ignores it. But for Hillary, McCain or Palin, if they so much as sneeze, they are mercilessly taken thought the ringer and insulted by the press relentlessly.
Is this because we are afraid to criticize an African American or because some powers above are manipulating the media?
- It is also interesting to note, that my Obama critical posting are often banned or removed by the mediators of blogs or newspapers. A shocking example of this is The Swamp - Tribune's Washington Bureau who will almost NEVER print anything anti-Obama yet they are ubiquitous throughout the Internet.
Obama is not even elected yet, and Obama’s cult followers have already managed to implement restrictions on Freedom of Speech. What will happen to us after he is elected? He will teach our youth to be thugs like himself. And if you don’t know why I call him a thug, find out how he got elected as senator and look at all the ill associations he has hobnobbed with throughout his life. Remember when he gave the finger to Hillary on national TV and now calling Palin a pig.
We have clearly become a society whose depth of thinking is equivalent to that of Britney Spears and we will pay for this lazy intelligence and lack of critical thinking skills with our country. We are setting the stage for an American Mussolini.

Posted by: Julie Alton | September 14, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are treasonous dogs.

Posted by: JakeD | September 14, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Great, great post, Mo.

Hillary for Supreme Court Justice!

I'm sure all of those Republicans who are talking her up now would just *love* to see that happen, don't you think?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

How could any independent voter vote for Obama after knowing the about Trinity United Church and his affiliation, unless they subscribe to their doctrine. See the post below. Obama listened to this for 20 years. He would still be a member and attending if it weren't so inconvenient for his candidacy. He threw his church under the bus for personal/politcal gain. He abandoned his spritual advisor of the past 20 years for personal/political gain. If you are still considering whom to vote for this November do the research and draw your own conclusion - the link below is a start. After the research, ask yourself - is this the guy I want leading the country? Will he represent me and what I stand for?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/31/breaking-obamas-quit-trinity-united-church-of-christ/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

DNC missed the boat, you could see the same darned thing about McCain needing Palin. He wanted to choose Lieberman or Ridge, but didn't have the guts to stand up to his own party.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

As much Bush administration bashes Venezuela and Hugo Chavez, they are wrong. Last winter in New York, 90% of poor people could not get oil for heat from our government. Hugo Chavez provided it free of charge whole winter, for everybody. Also, Hugo Chavez just shut down American embassy in Venezuela until we choose right president. More likely it will stay closed if McCain gets elected and we will be in war with Venezuela.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I would rather trust Arabs on oil and gas prices than republicans to sell it to us form Alaska. Who's gonna own that anyway? Bush or Chenney family maybe?

Posted by: PizzaDeliveryGuy | September 14, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

It is hurtful and hateful. It is a slap in the face to me as well as 88% of America. So who is for me? Well it is certainly not Barack Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:56 PM

Neither Obama or McCain are for you, "Anonymous". WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY? Well studied Obama case, maybe you should join KKK as well, it fits your post perfectly.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

People do some reasearch

Alternative fuel options are way too expensive, you thing $5 a gallon would be alot for gas, all the alternatives would be much more. Drill - yes only reason we stopped it was cheaper elsewhere. And to be honest there is plenty of fuel for 100's of years. We went through this in the 70's air, and solar and fuel effiencent cars. It all was a failure then and will be now too. Democrats have been in power the last 4 years of Bush's term and they make most of the changes - the president only can do so much that is why our system is good a set of checks and balances. But their choices have caused many of the problems that exist today.

Do some reasearch, on Obama he does not own his house Tony Rezko does, he only owns a part of the lot the house is on.

Obama barely won either position in Illinois Senate or US Senate, Republicans in Illinois did not have real candidates for those elections.

Obama plans to raise taxes for everyone, if you are near retirement, not making a ton of money be very afraid check into this.

Hillary is trying to support her party, but look at her face she looks ill talking about supporting this person.

People should reseach the candidates themself not go into the media (news) hype that gets you to watch. Go to snopes check out some details, go to any news site and look up these items learn more.

Palin has more experience in a leadership position as Mayor and Governer, while a senator is only someone to help follow the desires (cough cough) of their community.

People of America don't just follow a party follow what helps you, your job, your future, your safety.

If you think Obama is so different why does he wait for McCain to respond first then follow in comment, and why has he voted the few times he has for things like McCain has, look at the record of each in the current time that is much more of a fair comparison.

Posted by: Check into It | September 14, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey Liberal, I think we need to leave that "and smoke it" to Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Too much crap came out about Palin in the last 2 weeks.
-pregnant teenage daughter
-trooper scandal
-fake trip to Iraq

Has she learned anything with her "executive" experience. Obviously NOT.

Posted by: PooperScooper | September 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

So the news reported in this article is that Sen. Clinton is campaigning for Sen. Obama. It mentions the name of the GOP VP candidate several times more than Clinton did, but not alot about what it was that Sen. Clinton did say, beyond repeating two of the campaign's catch phrases. Did she answer questions?

Posted by: Mike | September 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Hillary,
You say to ask, "Who is for you?"
Well I have done my home work.
I have studied Obama and his relationship with Wright, his Reverand , "mentor" and "Uncle." He clearly followed Wright and the Wright teaching of Black Liberation Theology, a nice name for black supremacy, for 20 YEARS. Wright started teaching this in the mid 1970's. It is hurtful and hateful. It is a slap in the face to me as well as 88% of America. So who is for me? Well it is certainly not Barack Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I just love when McCain or Palin start mentioning Hillary, I really just love it. There is no other reason for them to mention her besides to atract Hillary supporters. That is so obvious and they can't hide it. That is why I love it, it exposes their faces behind those fake smiles and serious faces.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

No Way, No How, No McSame, No Shameless Moose hunters, NO REPUBLICANS. Put that lipstick on your pig and smoke it. The Truth is coming out on Troopergate and all the other lies and corruption in Palin's past. Todd Palin has been ordered to testify in Troopergate. Palin will fall and so will McSame.

Posted by: ProudLiberal | September 14, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Thank g-d that hillary is a supporter. Now we will have true change and cast of these war mongers in power. Mccain is just another warmonger.

I voted for Bush the first time, abstained the second and will vote for Obama in November. The Republican party has lost its way and is further from G-d now more than ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

The joke of this whole Hillary campaigning for Obama is the fact that the Democrat party and Obama NEEDS HER TO WIN! Does noone see the irony in this?

Posted by: DNC Missed the boat | September 14, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't anyone proofread these articles before they are published? There are 2 misspellings in the first sentence alone.

And in the third paragraph from the end, there is a comma that should be a period, and that is followed by what appears to be another typo.

Not trying to be picky, but this is a huge peeve of mind. It drives me crazy when published articles contain misspellings, typos, or poor grammar.

Proof before you publish!

Posted by: "Editor" | September 14, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

She wasn't good enough for the party to be the candidate.
She wasn't good enough for Obama to be the VP.

But Hilliary is expected to Mommy shill and do the fix-it thingie against the only candidate gracious enough to open her first speech of note by thanking Hillary first over all.
Something neither of the Obmaas has gotten around to doing in any publicly convincing way, yet.

You can't imagine how well this is going over with the rest of us. I suspect every time we watch Hillary doing the decent thing for someone who so clearly isn't worth the effort, Obama loses far more votes than he gains.

The time for Hillary to be pitted against Palin is in 2012. By then it will be worth paying attention to since Palin will have been in the West Wing for four years.

-gala1

Posted by: gala1 | September 14, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

palin's identity is so sketchy at this point, almost a cartoon character, can be reduced to 2-3 simple phrases:
drill, baby, drill.
kill, baby, kill.

Posted by: riddleman | September 14, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

JD wants to play "Talking Points"!

I'll Bite!

Why do I still support Mitt Romney as a much needed new face in Washington?

Because HE has a few of the clues needed to actually address your 11 concerns-or, many of them!

Mitt Romney won me over when he declared that this Nation does not need any NEW Legislation to handle the so called "Immigration" issues.

We simply need to ENFORCE the Federal Labor Laws we ALREADY HAVE!

For your edification consider what stepped up enforcement of I-9, and W-4 Employment Requirements, along with getting something like House Resolution 1940 off Speaker Ninny Peloser's Desk(Birthright Citizenship Act that Amends the Flawed 14Th, to STOP the Anchor baby Scam!), and into Legislation, would eventually do.

Right now, our Schools, Hospitals, Communities, and Prisons are filled to overflowing because MILLIONS of Jobs that used to belong to TAX-PAYING Americans, are now being done under the Tax Table, by MILLIONS More, people illegally in this Country!

Better Wages, less demand for services, more Tax Base, and lower crime rates, ALL begin with TURNING OFF the insipid Magnet that has been on too long!

FINE CRIMINAL EMPLOYERS! STOP THE ANCHOR BABY SCAMS!

Much good, will follow for the Citizens of this Nation!

Then, there is Mitt's Ingenious Idea about anyone who earns less than $300,000, not having to pay Capital Gains Taxes on their Investments!

THAT, eliminates the over-abused Capital Gains waiver on Houses "Flipped" within 2 Years, that has been the basis for the Financial Fiasco that has occurred.

Barack Obama, is a World Labor Party STOOGE, and in George Soro's Pocket!

He, is also just a Stooge for Kennedy, Daschle, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, and other lessor Socialist Machiavellian Congressional Slime with "Old School" dust all over them!

Anyone, who would call that crowd "Change", is a foolish fool!

THEY, are the existing PROBLEMS!

Posted by: SAINT-The | September 14, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's to Hillary! You ran a great campaign. And now, instead of sitting back and watching the show you pull up your sleeves and keep up the fight for this great cause. Thank you, Hillary! Go Obama!

Posted by: Shawn | September 14, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Our sovereign and almighty God shall prevail today, this November and always.
His will shall be done, and McCain and Palin will predominate with absolute victory. In Him we can rest assured.
All the rest is wasted words and angst over something we cannot control. And the USA will continue to be the greatest nation on Gods green earth. Amen?

Posted by: Paul | September 14, 2008 8:32 PM

I SHALL LET THIS COUNTRY LIVE ON. I SHALL PUNISH JOHN McCAIN FOR DUMPING HIS CRIPLED EX-WIFE FOR DIAMOND AND GOLD PLATED MISSTRES. I SHALL AWARD BARACK OBAMA TO LEAD THESE GOOD BELEIVERS.

Posted by: GOD | September 14, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

to draggonfly777,
Not Palin for sure she has enough to do with the moose in the garbage at 3a.m

Posted by: mau | September 14, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Senator Clinton shows a great deal of political maturity. She is equal to the challenge of American politics.

She took a difficult defeat with grace and has emerged as a woman to be reckoned with.

I assume that Senator Clinton weighed McCain/Palin and found them wanting. And so she puts aside her personal ambition to campaign for the greater good.

That's impressive.

Posted by: John Quimby | September 14, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

to No,
Michigan, Ohio, Pensylvannia, Florida, New Hampshire, will say Yes to Obama in november, not because they are for him but because he is for them

Posted by: mau | September 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Ooooh. I like it! Hillary Clinton on the Supreme Court! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Posted by: HilaryforHillary | September 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Those who are ardent supporters of either Obama or McCain obviously have their minds made up. It is the non-committed voter that will decide this election. That in itself does not make me comfortable. Those who haven't made up their minds at this point, determining the future of this country...... that idea is more scary to me than either candidate.

Posted by: Keith | September 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are in charge of congress and senate. All we need is democratic president and we will be on right track. McCain is not democrat and he will not work with congress and senate, he will divide this country. Bush Sr once said about his son; "I can't imagine his life as president if Democrats win in congress and senate". Let's help this country get off it's knees.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why people resent Obama not making Hillary his VP, as if that is such a big prize. She ran for Pres. not VP. She would not be another Cheney, Obama is not W. Hillary could be much more powerful as Secy. of State or even HHS. People who want to lay all the sexism in the world on Obama because he got the nomination are missing the point. Hillary is not a victim, don't paint her as one. McCain's misogyny, lack of integrity and reckless judgment should scare us all.

Posted by: Mo | September 14, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

So Obarbie has to have Clinton do all his fighting for him. So why was Obama elected if Clinton has to keep saving him? Who will save Obambie at 3:00 AM?

Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 14, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

What is with the graphic with Hil at http://www.bopppoll.com.

If you hit shop she seems a bit confused.

Posted by: Spell Check is good.... | September 14, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Our sovereign and almighty God shall prevail today, this November and always.
His will shall be done, and McCain and Palin will predominate with absolute victory. In Him we can rest assured.
All the rest is wasted words and angst over something we cannot control. And the USA will continue to be the greatest nation on Gods green earth. Amen?

Posted by: Paul | September 14, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Friday, September 12, 2008
He'd Rather Win The Election Than Portray The Truth

John McCain ran an honorable campaign in 2000.

He was beaten due to scurrilous dishonesty.

He's learned the lesson well.

He's hired those who did this to him.

And now, they're doing it again.

McCain has said that he would rather win the war than win the election.

In fact, as we have seen time after time this week, he would apparently rather win the election than convey the truth.

This approach brought us George W. Bush--and the dissembling, the half-truths, and the omissions and distortions to come. And, so, brought us the tragic consequences that have followed for individuals and families across the nation and the world.

As Americans, we often have short memories and powerful impulses. We tend to act on the latter. This is why history can repeat itself.

Remember. Remember how driven by emotion many became last time. By impulse. Without thought. Remember the statements that were made. Remember the realities that followed. Remember.

You can feel what you feel now--anger, aggression, glee, without examination of the underlying truth--for a moment.

You will live with the consequences for years, decades to come--perhaps for the rest of your life.

Remember the thoughts and feelings that preceded these last 8 years.

Remember.

According to the non-partisan FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html), McCain has strained the truth about health care. About small business. About education. About taxes. About corporate welfare. About energy independence. About free trade.

We've seen this before.

We were distracted from the truth in just the same way before.

And we've lived the resulting damage--for the past 8 years.

This is the way we need to change the nation: By realizing what is true, rather than realizing what emotes us for the moment.

Think.

Remember.

And act accordingly for your future.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

You can put a pants and suit on Sarah Palin, she still is not Hillary Clinton, even with a lipstick.

Posted by: Fashion Police | September 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Hillary.

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 14, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

to anonymous,
You will never vote for Obama because you are a Mc-Cain supporter. So vote for whom you like but please dont try to tell us that you are more Hillary supporter than I am. You are liar like your Mc-same and the people working for him.

Posted by: mau | September 14, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

My family always advised not to buy a "PIG IN A POKE", even if the pig has lipstick.

She will not take any Hillary women voters, and as time goes on the country will see that there are plenty more people in ALASKA who say they can see Russia, and thus have National Security experience because they have Canadian currency in their house. I know one family that had two sons who almost joined the Alaska National Guard , and the family went to Russia for a two week vacation. According to John McCain that's real National Security experience.

Posted by: Walter | September 14, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:16 PM
So I say this..I am not crazy about McCain/Palin, but compared to Obama, I will wait in a line to vote for them

Reply: Put some lipstick on while you wait in line!

Posted by: Another Anonymus Moron | September 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

there are some folks here trying to say that they are Hillary suppoters but in fact they are Mc-Cain supporters. Hillary supporters know better. So please dont be fooled and dont insult Hillary supporters, those who voted Hillary because of issues and because they think she is more experienced than Obama and not because she is a white woman. Those supporters will never ever vote for MC-Cain-Palin. By the way I am a white woman who voted for Hillary and who is going to vote for Obama-Biden not because I am for them but as said Hillary because they are for me.. NO WAY-NO HOW-NO MC-CAIN-PALIN.

Posted by: mau | September 14, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

My question to McCain supporters, what would McCain do with the following issues, mind you, issues being a question you all do not see very often, but perhaps you can enlighten me between your crushes on Sarah and your blind, and seemingly irrational dislike of Obama.

1. The Economy?
2. The War in Iraq
3. The War in Afghanistan?
4. Education crisis
5. The deterioration of infrastructure
6. Energy (drill baby drill or long term, sustainable solutions)
7. The growing beligerance of Russia?
8. the growth and power of China?
9. The sinking of the US dollar?
10. The rising crime rates in many US cities?
11. The lack of insured Americans and the growing expense of health care?

That's just 11 issues we can discuss or we can get into your wheelhouse and talk about lipstick and pigs.

Posted by: JD | September 14, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Hillary Clinton. Now her supporters who aren't on board with Obama: vote on the issues not on your grudges or the female candidate.

Palin represents John McCain who represents an extremely conservative agenda masked with slogans of "change" and "reform".

Reform, ha ha ha, McCain and Palin take lots of money from lobbyist and PACs while the Obama campaign and democratic party take none of it.

But what change does McCain want to bring? Its far worse then nothing, it's a more aggressive foreign policy, more tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, less restrictions on health care, and a war on the both separation between church and state and the public school system by providing vouchers for public schools. If you think the last eight years were bad, McCain and Palins policies plan on making the next four years much worse.

***MCCAIN/PALIN: SAME COURSE, ONLY WORSE***

"Anybody who believes the Republicans can fix the mess they created probably believes the iceberg will save the Titanic" -Hillary Clinton

Posted by: abbcccddddd | September 14, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

HillaryforHillary,
I will NOT vote for CHEATING and NO EXPERIENCE Obama. NO WAY! And am surprised that true Hillary supporters would vote for Obama. He is a jerk. And it is Hillary Clinton supporters that really now this. And the DNC - they strong armed everyone or anyone to shove Obama down our throats. They have made a joke of the "Democratic" party!

So I say this..I am not crazy about McCain/Palin, but compared to Obama, I will wait in a line to vote for them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

"The goal, campaign strategists say, is to get the message back to John McCain's record," Why is the goal always to attack? Why can't the goal (on both sides) be to clearly outline how they will achieve their goals? It's one thing to say you're going to lower taxes. It's another to tell us how you're going to lower them. What will be cut out of current spending to allow the taxes to be lowered. How are you going to provide universal health care? What is the ultimate cost of doing so? I would expect that there are millions of us who are sick and tired of attack campaigning and what to hear real solutions instead of empty promises!

Posted by: nobejack | September 14, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Uhhh, Jack;

Are you on some sort of Medication you either did take, or possibly forgot to?

Maybe something that was NOT prescribed, or available at the local Pharmacy?

Inquiring minds want to know! ;~)

What part of "I did NOT support" did you NOT understand?

Then, I am a guy!

Then, it is "Surf" Rat, not "Dirty" Rat!

Personally, I feel McAmnesty should have been Mitt Romney's VP, but, I'll concede the genius of Palin as his VP Pick. It has Rocked O'Bomba-Nation's entire World!

LOL!

Just get Mitt in the White House as a cabinet Pick or Appointee.

This Nation needs his Economic Abilities!

Posted by: RAT-The | September 14, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has no choice than to support Obama. Its the right thing to do. What else she can do really besides screw up complete elections and make a lot of people mad. It was her own fault she did not get picked by Obama; Bosnia story, crying publicly, lying about Obama and upcoming arrest of war criminal Radovan Karadzic. If she was picked, all the bad things would haunt Obama campaign, and he would be labeled God knows what.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 14, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

We have a Texas cowboy in the white house for the last 8 years doing the maximum damage he can to this country. This cowboy chose a gun totting quail hunting ex corporate honcho Dick Cheney as his running mate. He almost shot and killed his own legal counsel in the name of duck hunting.

Now we have an Arizona maverick asking for our votes to get into the white house. Now he is hitching a ride on the "change" wagon. He too chose a gun totting, moose hunting ex oil commission chair as his running mate. Since McCain is touting his change brand right now, he decided that, that change has to be a sex change. So he saw the womanhood in Sarah Palin and decided that is a change. But the Arizona mavericks policies, principles, doctrines etc are all borrowed from the Texas cowboy. And as for Sarah Palin she still thinks Bush pronouces "nukiler" correctly. Even though she does not know what Bush really stands for, she has embraced the lingofranca of the cowboy. Sarah Palin is the only person other than Bush who says "nukiler" instead of nuclear. Need I say more. The McCain/Palin republican ticket is a carbon copy of the current Bush/Cheney ticket. Instead of the quail hunting Cheney we get moose hunting Palin.

Posted by: Joan Swisher | September 14, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Disappointing dialogues. Poor spelling. Name-calling.
Lack of focus on things that matter.
Two wars, one was unnecessary, both difficult and expensive.
Economy facing a catastrophe ("once in a century" - A. Greenspan).
"For sale" signs down the street even in this good neighborhood. Lack of ideas for fixing our critical problems. Inadequate education. Korea, China, Japan are training engineers, not teaching them bible-stuff. A government led by absentee overlords (I'm thinking of oil-drilling office-scandals) who didn't supervise. Americans wake up: time to get your act together!

Posted by: Richaado/California | September 14, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I think the only "fact" on this blog is that Hillary Clinton appeared in Florida at an event to support Barack Obama.

Everything else is opinion and presented as factual. No wonder our children fail miserably on higher order thinking skills like the difference between fact and opinion.
Or looking at a thesis and determining how the argument was constructed.
God help America.

Posted by: JUT | September 14, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

to Hillary, not my Hillary Clinton but the Hillary of this blog who is not a Clinton's supporter but a Mcsame supporter:

You may think that you are clever but you are not. We Hillary supporters, real ones, will never forget what republicans did to the Clintons during the nineties, how they call her the -b- word and how Mcsame laughs when they call her -b- we will never forget miss Alaska saying she is whinner. Now suddenly you want us to believe that you fell in love with Senator Clinton. No, I love Hillary and I'll do what she asks me to do and with the help of god I hope that she will be the first woman president because she deserves it and not this joke Palin who is against everything women faught for. Come-on sisters let's not let this Palin be at a heartbeat from the presidency, let's fight for ourselves, not for them.

Posted by: mau | September 14, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

That is exciting. It is great to see Clinton here even though I am a staunch Obama/Nader supporter.

It is obvious that Hillary will play a large role in the Obama Administration.. What is wrong with Supreme Court??? It is better than president and by far better than VP

Posted by: pekopper | September 14, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama,
It does not matter if you send Hillary out. We voted for HER, not YOU!

OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA, NEW HAMPSHIRE,
FLORIDA, MICHIGAN...........
Obama, They have already told you NO!
Can you not hear? Are you the senile one? They said NO and NO means NO!

NO in February. NO in April.
NO in September and
ABSOLUTLEY NO in November!

Posted by: NO! | September 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, lots of people who posted here think Obama is Communist...

A) Of all the people in the world, Obama is for a democratic government. That much HAS to be clear to anyone who can figure out how to work their computer enough to even get to this page.

B) Come on, people who hate communism are still around? Hasn't that died yet? Its just another form of government! I never, even once, understood why people hate it so much. Is it the love for our country making you hate a different country? That's just bad. Period.

Also, Palin can go suck a bible. Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Lucas | September 14, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

What Hillary Supporter would EVER vote for McCain just because he has Palin as a VP? I am a staunch Hillary supporter and God help us if Sarah Palin gets in the White House. I'm pissed off that Obama didn't select Hillary but will never vote for McCain. Her seletion is an insult to Hillary supporters. AN INSULT! I remember people saying to me: you're just for Hillary because she's a woman. I was always so surprised at that comment. Hillary Clinton has a LONG history of excellence in academics, in her profession, in politics, in service to country, in INTEREST in foreign affairs and governence, in business (Hello!!! first female member of Wal-Mart Board) don't anyone dare compare the two!!! Palin - a two-bit mayor from a 5,000 pop town, and 1.5 years as gov of a state WITH LESS THAN A MILLION PEOPLE? A BEAUTY QUEEN??? A MOOSE HUNTER???? (How fast do moose move, anyway?) Oh My God. Any Hilllary supporter that even thinks for a second of voting for McCain is demented and had no idea of who Hillary was.

Posted by: HilaryforHillary | September 14, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Typo filled article. Not very professional. I count five.

Posted by: TC | September 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Patricia Lavendera - so some columnist in the Financial Times spouts off on the Clintons? They're not giving lip service! The Clintons have absolutely NOTHING to gain in a McCain presidency - and everything to gain if Obama wins. No matter how cynical you may be, the Clintons have worked exceedingly hard in the areas of public service they are most committed to - health care for her and the Clinton Foundation's hugely popular Global Initiative, and also his AIDS Awareness campaign. These aren't stupid people. They're working hard to get things done and will be able to do that more freely in an Obama administration and Democratic-heavy House and Senate.

As far as campaigning for Obama, her convention speech was magnificent. She has had a full schedule campaigning for Obama. And she'll stick to the issues, not slam Palin - as well she should. She was lambasted by the press for some of her comments against Obama. Clinton's not about to sacrifice her career by becoming a bulldog for Obama. That's the job of others, including Biden and the 527's. In addition, Hillary has raised millions of dollars helping women get elected to Congress (even those who are pro-Obama, like McCaskill and Sibelius). She's a lot more professional than the bloggers above give her credit for.

Posted by: Keller | September 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

To Rat-the,
I'm sorry you are just another "BITTER" hag that can't get over the fact that more than half the nation didn't want your choice for President. And now you will work against your own best interest.

Say what you will, "Hillary will never become President". Next time choose a better candidate, one who unlike Hillary understands the primary process and knows how to compete. Did you know that she never read the rules of the primary contest. Instead she relied on her "campaign advisers" and look how they ran her campaign.Bill should have know better. But then he didn't want her to win either.

Posted by: jack | September 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

This is not a game. Elect McLiar and Dumlin and we all will have to suffer. Someone said they are tired of name calling etc in this election. If you note in the article, Obama agreed that Senator Clinton should not point out that Palin is clueless. If you want a change in politics and in Washington, you have only one choice, the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: Marko | September 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

mccain does not want to talk about the economy or his voting with bush 94% of the time..the media has done nothing but give mccain ,palin and every other republican air time..the only one you see for the democrats is obama..no biden,clinton,kerry its getting to be a joke..were is the hard hitting media coverage of the republicans..none

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't feel HRC should even do as much as she's doing for BO. She's already done more than past candidates did for their opponents. Hillary was put through "hell" for waiting just FOUR days to endorse BO. Most candidates waited until the convention. Why a different microscope for Hillary & Bill?!?

There are far too many Democratic strategists speaking out with regard to the hubris of the BO campaign behind the scenes. They speak about BO "dissing" the Clintons, and refusing to acknowledge he needs the Clintons to win. I personally don't even think the Clintons can save him now.

Posted by: kmb08 | September 14, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I can' stop speaking in italics!

Ahhh!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 14, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"Elyria, OHIO--Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), swept into friendly territory today to ampaign for her former rival, generating large, passionate crowds--but barely mentioning the woman whose popularly has many here fretting."

What's an "ampaign"?

Why would people fret over someone's "popularly"?

I'm so onfused!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Hillary,
How, after the sexism aimed at you from Obama, and the racist claims aimed at Bill, and then the stinging slap with a NO Veep offer even though you had 18 million votes, could you campaign for Obama?
How?
As a Democrat, I could not be more dissapointed in the sexism, racism and the cheating of the DNC to name inexperienced Obama as the nominee. Obama is as far left as any Democrat can possibly be. Almost a socialist. He will tax and spend our grandchildren and great grandchildren into poverty from what will be necessary taxation to pay for his give it all away government programs. He is just TOO far left for Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, New Hampshire, Kentucky and all of America!
Hillary, It must be Country before Party!

Please tell Obama NO! He did NOT care about your 18 million voters....all the women, hispanic, blue collar voters, catholic voters and jewish voters. He made a choice and we were not considered. Tell him NO! NO!
NOBAma.
No Way! No How! Nobama!

Posted by: Hillary, Just say NO! | September 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!

FACT - Obama "did not" choose Hillary as his running mate.

FACT - Obama's campaign "continually" assaulted Hillary with sexist and other misogynist attacks through the media.

FACT - Obama's campaign "painted" President Clinton as a "racist".

"IS THERE REALLY ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO KNOW..."

I don't think so...

Posted by: Randy | September 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Hillary can do more good and use her talents more effectively as a cabinet member or the person in charge of health care.

Posted by: chris | September 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Our country doesn't need another "maverick". We've had one for the last 8 years, and look where we are. McCain is more of the same. He will change nothing. I don't remember when he sold out, but I was dissapointed when he did.

Obama/Biden '08
Change We Can Believe In!

Posted by: ChangeForAmerica | September 14, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

This hateful name calling has got to stop. We live in the USA so we have the chance to have different opinions and disagree with others on issues. This Obama-Nation name calling is hateful and spiteful and put Americans on the par with the worst distatorships in the world. Whatever happened to our ability to indulge in adult discourse about our differences? I too have a foreign sounding name so I can imagine what you would do to me. And by the way my ancestors have been here since 1674.

Posted by: Dee | September 14, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Religous fundamentalists put their beliefs ahead of the United States Constitution, which has much to do with how we got into this mess.

Posted by: Wade | September 14, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

If someone lies straight to your face about someone else, what makes you think they will be truthful when dealing with you?

If someone talks about how much they are for you, but spends 30 years voting against you, what makes you think they are all of a sudden going to do anything for you?

If we make our choices out of fear, what makes you think those choices will do anything to alleviate your fears?

If we keep doing the same thing over and over, what makes you think the results will be any different?

I think we need to dig deep and realize that our biases are based on fear, and leave fear at the door when we make our choices. I hope you think about this.

Thanks.

Posted by: David | September 14, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Hillary not deigning to mention McPalin. The woman is beneath Hillary in every way. Talking about her would give McPalin the credibility she is so desperate for.

Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

No way, No how, No Marks, No Lenin, No Obama!

Posted by: Andy T


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"Marks". Awesome. You tool. Do you just know how to repeat the sounds hear comin' from that mystery box with the music an such?

Posted by: us liberal | September 14, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Turn on your spell checker and your brain!

"ampaign"
"shge"
"running make" (mate)

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I find it funny that Senator Obama who in my opinion deplores the Clintons demands their help (both Hillary and Bill). Why didn't he have the courage to select her as his running mate ?? Because he is arrogant !! I know she needs his cash to pay off her campaign debts...but now he has her doing his dirty work. I for one will not be told by Obama who I will vote for.

Posted by: former dem | September 14, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Fix the obvious typo in your article: ..."even suggesting that Obama should have selected her as is running make."

Posted by: Izabael DaJinn | September 14, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

No way! Now Hay! No Bops!

Team Clinton is not playing very strong. Ho Hum.

http://wwww.boppoll.com

Posted by: The Hillary effect! | September 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

A Financial Post article today mentioned that the Clintons are really just paying "lip service" to support for Obama. In Florida at a recent campaign speaking event for Obama, Clinton delegates now for Obama seemed shocked that her advocacy for Obama wasn't stronger...guess she's gearing up for 2012.

Posted by: Patricia Lavendera | September 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

GREAT JOB CLINTON
OBAMA O8

Posted by: JUVIAH | September 14, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Clinton needs to come on more strongly for Obama. And then ask her supporters to support him instead of her.

She must be as confident and as feroucious for him as she was against him. And she need not explain why - she just needs to point to McCain and his false promise to change.

You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. McCain is a one trick dog - maverick. That is not leadership. It is anti- followership and fighting for the sake of a fight.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 14, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

no way no how no McBush, and crazy palin

Posted by: bROck101 | September 14, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

DON'T HATE.

The Clintons got it going on.

Posted by: BROck101 | September 14, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

No way, No how, No Marks, No Lenin, No Obama!

Posted by: Andy T | September 14, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

The Palin Gambit:
Get the democrats to attack
Palin on her experience,
thereby leaving obama's
experience revealed
and vunerable.
Check... and Mate'
Palin/McCain08!

Posted by: USA3 | September 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Babe,

I was NEVER supporting You, I was just working against the World Labor Party's Candidate, Barry O'Bomba-Nation.

Primaries, are a flawed System. :-(

Posted by: RAT-The | September 14, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

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