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In Anchorage, an Anti-Palin Protest

By Karl Vick
ANCHORAGE -- A couple of hours after Gov. Sarah Palin returned to the Outside, as Alaskans call the Lower 48, her local critics swarmed an Anchorage intersection to correct the widespread impression that the whole of the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

The midday protest outside a city library drew a crowd in the high hundreds -- perhaps surging past a thousand -- from the city's relatively liberal environs, who seemed very happy to see one another and be reminded that they are not alone.

"The whole thing grew out of frustration," said Charla Sterne, one of the organizers, who like several people at the rally declined to say where they worked (several said they were state employees and feared retribution).

"Last week this was just ten women sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement," Sterne said.

A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

Maia Nolan, 29, wore a sticker reading, "My Mom for V.P."

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

There were also a few score Palin supporters in the mix, most of them alerted to the event by a conservative talk show host.

Eddie Burke of KBYR-AM showed up in person, but while there was no evident friction between the two camps, cheerful chants of "O-bam-ah" effectively drowned out whatever he was saying to the cameras in the center of a mini-media scrum.

The din did not prevent reading the signs, pro and against:
Bush In A Skirt
Palin: She Be Failin'
I Love My Alaska Girl
Jesus Was a Community Organizer
We Luv Our Lady Guv
Palin: Thanks But No Thanks
Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time
Candidate To Nowhere
Rape Kits Should Be Free
Voted For Her Once: Never Again!
Community Organizers are the Real Patriots
Barbies for War
I Shall Not Be Pandered To
Give Palin Your Vote AND Your Draft Age Child
Sarah Palin: So Far Right She's Wrong
Sarah Palin Is My Hero
Alaska Is Not Frisco
Gun Rights
Coat Hangers for McCain
Sarah Palin, Undoing 150 Years of American Feminism
Hockey Mama for Obama (on a hockey stick)

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voting for McSame and Barbie Palin will send America even further back into the dark ages

Posted by: OzA | September 20, 2008 3:45 AM | Report abuse

Got news for you. Obama no more feels your pain or is "in touch" with the "working man" anymore than McCain. I believe all politicians are out of touch. Wish we had a 3rd better option.

Posted by: Over it | September 19, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Excerpted from: Associated Press Writer LIZ SIDOTI, Thu Sep 18, 4:22 PM ET

"As markets nose-dived, the Arizona senator made his oft-repeated assertion that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong." Democrats called him out of touch and just like Bush.

McCain, who has acknowledged that economics is not his strongest suit, also called the chaos "one of the most severe crises in modern times." He's spent the days since trying to explain, let voters know that he feels their pain and distance himself from Bush...."

Posted by: Andrea | September 18, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I thought this was worth posting again. Betty was there at this rally!

Posted by: betty | September 15, 2008 3:46 PM


This was my first political rally in 58 years in Alaska. I felt compelled to counter the perception that all AK women align with Palin, and out of repulsion for the talk show bully that caused the organizers to be threatened. For at least half the women of all ages I met there, it was their first rally too--a time to take a stand. It was truly a wonderful grass roots non-partisan event!

After Frank Murkowski, undisputedly the most reviled governor in our state's history, Sarah's charisma captivated our hearts, just like she is doing now across America. However, her lacquer has cracked and we have seen a not so glamorous interior. Her "open government" is a farce, her understanding of the world is abyssmal, and her ego is huge.

Please America, do not fall for her charm! Study her carefully. Do you really want a VP whose lone foreign "trip of a lifetime" was a couple days visiting US military in Germany & Kuwait, but who "would not blink" at Russia? A VP who supports book bans, dismisses well-researched science, and keeps parroting the same well-rehearsed lines, even when proven wrong?

Why did McCain tap her? Is he senile, or reckless in trying to divert attention from the important issues facing our nation? Either way, he's demonstrated he's not up for the job.

Posted by: betty | September 15, 2008 3:46 PM

Posted by: Andrea | September 18, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Sarah's new slogan is, "NO TO THE BRIDGE, YES TO THE MONEY."

Posted by: Attucks | September 17, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "any person with at least a college education is smarter than sarah palin, as we have recently learned. and any person with any sense of morals and ethics would be able to make better decisions than she is capable of."

What a hoot. Is that the reason so many college grads are working at McDonalds these day. Or could it be the NAFTA treaty, bred and backed by Clinton, causing the "giant sucking sound" that Ross Perot predicted as the jobs left the US. College degrees are not worth the paper they are written on these days.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse


Today's Yahoo Poll Results:

John McCain 52%
Barack Obama 43%
Neither/Undecided 5%

67278 votes

Posted by: Willy | September 17, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The morning I heard of her nomination I felt physically ill. Another actress in government, only this one is as crooked as can be. She is in the process of destroying any good will in our state, dividing neighbors and friends. When she comes home, successful or not, she will find a state that no longer feels "warm" to her. An arctic breeze is blowing in here and it says No to Palin.

Posted by: joanne in Alaska | September 17, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

i wish that i was there to attend the protests.

i refuse to vote for someone who is in no way qualified to be vice president. why would anyone vote for someone who has never travelled abroad, doesn't understand scientific facts about global warming and endangered species, wants to take away the right of choice for women, and does not understand other cultures or religions other than her own?

any person with at least a college education is smarter than sarah palin, as we have recently learned. and any person with any sense of morals and ethics would be able to make better decisions than she is capable of.

Posted by: concerned voter | September 16, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

hawkdriver, I know lots of GOP vets and they have their eyes wide open when it comes to what happened with the Iraq war. Ever heard of General Shiseki, he resigned cause no one would listen to him when he said we need more troops and equipment, we need a plan for after invasion occupation. It wasn't so-called Liberal ears that were closed to him, but the Bush administration. Sorry, but Paul Bremmer is a GOP, and most GOPers are aware of how he bungled the CPA. And apparently, Petraeous is the first person to say that the surge only worked because of the reaching out to Sunnis that his on ground commanders made, actual progress without a shot fired. That is something to be proud of!!! But to slam socalled Liberals and blame them for the Bush Admins mistakes would seem to suggest that you have a hard time, like alot of Americans, accepting the fact that your President lied and troops died, that your life was on the line for false reasons. It seems inconceivable that your CinC could do that. Some parents of fallen soldiers feel that, it hurts too much to think that their child died because of Bush lies. So it's easier to just blame some preceived group rather than accept the fact you were deceived. Perhaps some PTSD treatments would help; but good luck with that, your guy McCain voted against increasing mental health help for vets, and families. Most anger is a blanket term for disappointment, hurt, helplessness, hopelessness, and God knows, the Bush Admin. has sparked this in people. Focus your anger where it really belongs, get help for it, own it, and get over it. Be constructive with your anger, go to rallies, go to fundraisers, get-out-the-vote, whatever, but sitting on your computer does nothing for you, nor for your party, the GOP. If you think they are so great despite getting into an un-neccessary war, than support them, spend your time and energy being positive about your country and party, instead of spewing hate and divisive crap. You served to defend free speech, but instead want to spew hate and crap? I'm not saying you shouldn't feel the way you do, just try to explain why without resorting to namecalling and threats. You want to get your point accross, fine, but do it like an adult not an angry, frustrated, confused child.

Posted by: katem1 | September 16, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I was born in Alaska, but I have to say, something is wrong with Alaska.

The first poster in this article is a professional photographer in Alaska using his own name. I met two people from Alaska right when Palin was nominated and they had this strange look in their eyes. They said this is good for Alaska. I guess it is.

They were tourists and their car got stuck in the sand. I pulled them out and burned out my clutch. They were grateful and drove away to enjoy their day. I had to pay for a two and a new clutch, nearly $1,000.

I thought of the $3,200 each resident of Alaska got as a rebate from the Alaska Govt. I thought of the $200 Million that Palin took from the US Government and than claimed she turned down the Bridge to Nowhere. I thought of that $200 Million of our tax money and the $3,200 rebate to the Alaskans.

Palin is a con artist.

They are out for the Money.

Why not? The lower 48 is called, "the outsiders."

This is like the Twilight Zone.

Wake up people!


Posted by: Mike | September 16, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

No Governor in the history of the United States has ever earned an 86% approval rating.

Who else has done a better job ? Our last Governor was a crook and a joke.

I have a great idea for these working moms that want to put on a rally.

Just say no to the permanent fund dividend !! Start that movement and see how popular that is amongst the people

That is how popular your quest is to be compared to. The whole county fell in love with Sarah Palin ! she has the experience and the no how to turn this country around

Posted by: David J. Eves | September 15, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Conception:

Republicans will bring America back to the top?? LOL Who do you think spent the last 8 years bringing us to the bottom?

Republicans: The party that wrecked America.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to the Post for covering this important story!

Ideology (and even politics) aside, Sarah Palin simply lacks the experience, history, depth, sophistication, global awareness and earned national and international respect to be Vice President.

Posted by: Kulu Sadira | September 15, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

What's everyone doing next Saturday? Join us. Sponsor your own rally at noon on your library lawn. I'd like to do this every weekend across the country until the whole world sees that American is ready to push back against the wrongs of the Right. Millions of us are too poor to sit idle longer. We are fed-up and ready to stand elbow to elbow and speak truth to power. Stand up. Speak up.

Posted by: HResz | September 15, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

What's everyone doing next Saturday? Join us. Sponsor your own rally at noon on your library lawn. I'd like to do this every weekend across the country until the whole world sees that American is ready to push back against the wrongs of the Right. Millions of us are too poor to sit idle longer. We are fed-up and ready to stand elbow to elbow and speak truth to power. Stand up. Speak up.

Posted by: HResz | September 15, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

This was my first political rally in 58 years in Alaska. I felt compelled to counter the perception that all AK women align with Palin, and out of repulsion for the talk show bully that caused the organizers to be threatened. For at least half the women of all ages I met there, it was their first rally too--a time to take a stand. It was truly a wonderful grass roots non-partisan event!

After Frank Murkowski, undisputedly the most reviled governor in our state's history, Sarah's charisma captivated our hearts, just like she is doing now across America. However, her lacquer has cracked and we have seen a not so glamorous interior. Her "open government" is a farce, her understanding of the world is abyssmal, and her ego is huge.

Please America, do not fall for her charm! Study her carefully. Do you really want a VP whose lone foreign "trip of a lifetime" was a couple days visiting US military in Germany & Kuwait, but who "would not blink" at Russia? A VP who supports book bans, dismisses well-researched science, and keeps parroting the same well-rehearsed lines, even when proven wrong?

Why did McCain tap her? Is he senile, or reckless in trying to divert attention from the important issues facing our nation? Either way, he's demonstrated he's not up for the job.

Posted by: betty | September 15, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I am an Independent who plans on voting for Barack Obama & am so thankful this information has gotten out. I have felt in my heart of hearts there were people in Alaska who do not support Sarah Palin. Anyone can have a friendly rally when only "faithful supporters" are invited. However, this country has people of differing viewpoints in all walks of life. There are even Pro-Life Democrats so that ought to say something.

Why does the Republican Party feel that if they don't retain control of the White House that "liberal" Supreme Court Judges will be put on the bench? Haven't they learned that these judges are going to do what they want to do since Roe v Wade became the "law of the land?"

The God I serve does not need the Republican Party to accomplish his work. This country is in a mess & McCain has already let it be known by his record that we will get 4 more years of the failed policies that have us in the mess we are today.

I would like to ask one question of any Republican here. Would Jesus speak lies or half-truths to garner support? I know my Bible & Jesus' most scathing words were directed toward the "religious elite" who were quick to point out specks in others lives but couldn't see the hypocrisy in their own.

Posted by: a2j1953 | September 15, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

All your views are useless. Liberals will always be liberals and conservatives will always be conservatives. It's not about issues; it's about who your heart goes to. All criticisms will never affect each voter's choice to the exception of independents who are still in the process of finding in their hearts the candidate they like. I love Sarah Palin, and no amount of vicios attacks and smears, true or not, will sway my support for the mCCain-Palin ticket. They will bring America back to the top.

Posted by: Concepcion | September 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

The Media and threatened parties debated Truman and Reagan's Qualifications before her-


"Give 'em Hell, Sarah
Like Truman, a natural-born executive.
by Steven F. Hayward
09/22/2008, Volume 014, Issue 02


"Part of what bothers the establishment about Palin is her seeming insouciance toward public office. Her success with voters, and in national office, would be n affront and a reproach to establishment self-importance. Anyone who affects making it look easy surely lacks gravitas and must not grasp the complexity or depth of modern political problems. Partly this is the self-justification for establishment institutions and attitudes, but partly it represents the substantive view that the size and complexity of modern government require a level of expertise beyond the reach of ordinary citizens. Some of the doubts about Palin are doubts about self-government itself.

As far no one has picked up on the significance of Palin's invocation of Harry Truman in her convention speech. Her reference was more than just a bridge to a heartland-versus-Beltway theme. Truman, recall, was the only president of the 20th century who was not a college graduate. Less than two months after abruptly taking over from FDR with no preparation, Truman wrote his wife Bess describing his quick progress in taking the reins:


It won't be long before I can sit back and study the whole picture and tell 'em what is to be done in each department. When things come to that stage there'll be no more to this job than there was to running Jackson County and not any more worry.


In retrospect it is clear that Truman "got it." He didn't need any more "experience" to master the job. "Well I'm facing another tall day as usual,"
he ended that letter to Bess; "But I like 'em that way."

Ronald Reagan evinced the same attitude toward office as Truman and Palin. In fact, on closer inspection, one can hear in the criticism of Palin the echo of the same kind of complaint made against Ronald Reagan throughout his political career. Never mind that he'd been governor of California. That this graduate of Eureka College--where?--had made his career in Hollywood, a place as exotic and peculiar as Alaska, was decisive with the establishment. "Reagan's election," John P. Roche, a former head of Americans for Democratic Action, wrote in 1984, "was thus an 8-plus earthquake on the political Richter scale, and it sent a number of eminent statesmen--Republican and Democratic--into shock." It wasn't only liberals who found Reagan incomprehensible. "No previous president of the United States," Rowland Evans and Robert Novak wrote shortly after Reagan's election in 1980, "had so bizarre a preparation for political office."


Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

The Media and threatened parties debated Truman and Regan's Qualifications before her-


"Give 'em Hell, Sarah
Like Truman, a natural-born executive.
by Steven F. Hayward
09/22/2008, Volume 014, Issue 02


"Part of what bothers the establishment about Palin is her seeming insouciance toward public office. Her success with voters, and in national office, would be n affront and a reproach to establishment self-importance. Anyone who affects making it look easy surely lacks gravitas and must not grasp the complexity or depth of modern political problems. Partly this is the self-justification for establishment institutions and attitudes, but partly it represents the substantive view that the size and complexity of modern government require a level of expertise beyond the reach of ordinary citizens. Some of the doubts about Palin are doubts about self-government itself.

As far no one has picked up on the significance of Palin's invocation of Harry Truman in her convention speech. Her reference was more than just a bridge to a heartland-versus-Beltway theme. Truman, recall, was the only president of the 20th century who was not a college graduate. Less than two months after abruptly taking over from FDR with no preparation, Truman wrote his wife Bess describing his quick progress in taking the reins:


It won't be long before I can sit back and study the whole picture and tell 'em what is to be done in each department. When things come to that stage there'll be no more to this job than there was to running Jackson County and not any more worry.


In retrospect it is clear that Truman "got it." He didn't need any more "experience" to master the job. "Well I'm facing another tall day as usual,"
he ended that letter to Bess; "But I like 'em that way."

Ronald Reagan evinced the same attitude toward office as Truman and Palin. In fact, on closer inspection, one can hear in the criticism of Palin the echo of the same kind of complaint made against Ronald Reagan throughout his political career. Never mind that he'd been governor of California. That this graduate of Eureka College--where?--had made his career in Hollywood, a place as exotic and peculiar as Alaska, was decisive with the establishment. "Reagan's election," John P. Roche, a former head of Americans for Democratic Action, wrote in 1984, "was thus an 8-plus earthquake on the political Richter scale, and it sent a number of eminent statesmen--Republican and Democratic--into shock." It wasn't only liberals who found Reagan incomprehensible. "No previous president of the United States," Rowland Evans and Robert Novak wrote shortly after Reagan's election in 1980, "had so bizarre a preparation for political office."


Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Here are more pics and video of the AK Women Reject Palin rally:
http://laurainak.blogspot.com

Posted by: laura | September 15, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

katya, the washington post has become too liberal? are you aware that it was the washington post which broke the watergate scandal which led to nixon's resignation?
what does "liberal" or "conservative" have to do with rule of law? there are both liberals and conservatives who are not passively accepting the erosion of civil rights and the exploitation of "i love america" as a means to gain power, the recent exercising of which has nothing to do with american values. before we contemplate the pros and cons of abortion or any other such social issue, we must consider that our soon to be retiring pres. and v.p. may very well face ICC indictment for crimes against humanity stemming from the iraqi war. this is the shame that has been brought on us by bush, inc. marxist? my dear katya, mix yourself a martini and pray.

Posted by: rico chipotle | September 15, 2008 2:47 AM | Report abuse

When you believe in life and saving babies that are born premature and not killing them, when you believe in the sanctity of marriage and in Judeo- Christian values like modesty and chastity;".....
So, that is why you support GOP candidates? Because Americans in Iraq have caused the deaths of 1.2 million Iraqi men women and children, and blinded, poisoned and blown the limbs off probably an equal number? The others they have driven from their homes. How dare you set yourself up as some holier than thou Christian! And it may come as a surprise to you but women in every state of the union have abortions - yes even Christian women. The hypocrisy is astonishing. Before you go blaming liberals for the ills of the world, you should look in a mirror.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

MClare,
You have given no concrete evidence on why Sarah Palin should not be chosen as VP. You're free in sharing what you think, but you are not lending objectivity to your protest. And for the record, it's evident you've been in Alaska too long to know what actually happens in Washington and how Washington politics works. Everything that SP has been groomed in and for is on the money -- just as the way Obama has been groomed for his candidacy.

Then again, your arguments against her show how ignorant and clueless you are. You're exactly who Obama depends on to win the nomination.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I am so shocked at how liberal the Washington Post has become and had done everything but actually endorse Obama for President.

You liberal commenters put conservatives down,why? If we think differently than you, than we are the bad guys? What is with you?

I respect everyone's decision to vote for who they want to vote for.

If you want to speak on issues and not Marxist propaganda than we can have a discussion. But you don't.

You women who are voting for Obama- that is your choice but I as a woman am voting for Palin because she has the same principles and values as I do. I am sick and tired of being put down because I am a Christian and I am prolife.

Feminism has done more harm than good to women in America. And the sweetest victory will be when Palin is in the White House and made it there without the support of the Feminists. You see, feminists only believe in women's rights when you believe what they believe. When you believe in life and saving babies that are born premature and not killing them, when you believe in the sanctity of marriage and in Judeo- Christian values like modesty and chastity; you are not respected by Feminists and not supported.

More women in America are like Palin than not. They are just not yelling as loud as you who are lashing out at her.

Posted by: Katya | September 14, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Funny how there are no pictures of this event, so I checked on Google:
http://www.adn.com/photos/v-gallery/story/525182.html
Can't the Post buy a few pics?

Anyway, while looking at this and other news stories at the Anchorage Daily News I found this story:
"Alaska Republicans close ranks around Palin: Only a few months ago, many leading Republicans in Alaska were deriding Palin as a free-spending oil baron in the mold of Hugo Chavez. Now most are doing their best to cheer the governor on as a budget-cutting fiscal conservative running for vice president..." To read more see this:
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/525499.html

You know, the republican party must watch a lot of Survivor since they easily reform alliances, all in the name of winning, not in the name of the country, not in the name of America.

Posted by: Fate | September 14, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

what will happen to those state employees if she does not get elected? i suppose she thinks alaska is still part of russia since she can see russia from her backyard,,,unbelievable

Posted by: fm1962 | September 14, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

MClare: What a great post. It nicely sums up the arguments against Palin. I hope those who are easily swayed by hype start to think more about what they'd be doing to the country if Palin ever became VP (and very likely President).

Posted by: Mark O | September 14, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

First of all, the tone of the messages posted here are a direct reflection of the Rove politics that have become a staple in the Republican Party play book. I have been around for a long time and have seen some nasty stuff but these last eight years and this present campaign is by far the worst. It is truly sad that so many conservatives have brought into this liberal media fable. Where was this liberal media when they staked Clinton for consensual behavior with another adult and where were they in the run up to the Iraq War? It is always easier to blame anybody else for their own failures. The truth is we never should have gone to Iraq. And, when we did, we should have gone in with a plan, with enough troops and with enough supplies and equipment. We had none of it. That is not the fault of the liberal press or the liberals. That is all Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and their whole gang. Bush is the one who said Bring them on, something my 15 yr. old son would know better to say, he claimed it would be a cake walk, he claimed mission accomplished. Bush and his people are solely responsible for over 4000 of our men and women dying with thousands Iraqis also. You conservatives own that! We liberals do not! I support the troops. I always have. My daughter is an MD and a LT. in the Navy. All of the troops lives are precious and should not have been wasted in a war of Bush's choosing. I support them that is why I do not want anymore of them to die. I support them in believing they should be able to go anywhere of their choosing to get free medical care, they should get a lot of help with college or re-education and I believe they should never have to pay income taxes. I also believe we do a poor job of helping their families when they are deployed.
Personally, I have had enough of all the insults and crap that conservatives have thrown my way. I love my country and no one has the right to question that, NO ONE!
McCain is running a gutter campaign. I once respected him greatly. But, he has lost that respect because he has lost his way.
By the way, as a matter of history, conservatives were not responsible for ending slavery. Southern Democrats at that time were the conservatives. Northern Republicans like Lincoln were liberals. If it had been left to conservatives, we will still be part of England, we would still have slavery. Civil rights, voting rights for blacks and women, men on the moon, the AmeriCorps and Peace Corps, Social Security , Medicare and many other accomphlishments would not have been possible without liberals no matter what conservatives say or think. It is called history. Look it Up. And just because Lumbaugh and Hannity say it does not make it true. You have a brain. Try thinking for yourself.

Posted by: gems | September 14, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

In the midst of the crowd was radio host Eddie Burke who earlier this week faced controversy for giving out the personal phone numbers of the rally organizers on his show. A few angry listeners called and threatened the organizers.

"I probably got a little over the top by calling them maggots and I would say that I regret that," Burke said.

KBYR Station Manager Justin McDonald says radio host Eddie Burke will be punished for giving out phone numbers because it is a violation of station policy. McDonald says although the press release containing the phone numbers did not indicate they were personal lines, he is still unhappy about what happened.

Posted by: Alaska's TV Ktuu.com | September 14, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

is it true Sarah was seen shopping with Elvis????????

Posted by: col in paradise | September 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Anchorage Daily News (AK){PUBLICATION2}
July 22, 1994
Section: Metro
Edition: Final
Page: E3

BURKE TO PAY $1,500 FINE IN INCIDENT WITH WAITRESS BUSINESSMAN PLEADS NO CONTEST TO ASSAULT, COMPOUNDING CRIME
LIZ RUSKIN
Daily News reporter
Staff

A tearful, apologetic Eddie Burke pleaded no contest Thursday to misdemeanor charges for grabbing at a waitress’s crotch, then offering to pay her $400 to keep her from reporting him to the police. Burke, owner of a downtown gas station and former Anchorage Assembly candidate, was fined $1,500 for assault and compounding a crime. Prosecutor Susan Wibker said Burke was out carousing that April night, going from strip joint to strip joint in a white limousine with friends. After midnight, Burke stopped by the Peanut Farm, a restaurant and bar on Old Seward Highway.
“He was intoxicated and he was sexed up,” Wibker said.
Burke approached a waitress from behind, pinned her against a cash register and stuffed his hands in the front pockets of her apron, groping her between the legs and laughing, Wibker said. Later, he assaulted a bartender, putting him in what Wibker described as a headlock.
Defense attorney Carmen Gutierrez said it was more like a bear hug.
Gutierrez argued that Burke, 32, should be given credit for all the good deeds he has done, which include fund raising for the Special Olympics, volunteering for the Chamber of Commerce and giving free turkeys to the needy on Christmas Eve.
“He’s been punished,” she said. “It will take him years to overcome the humiliation.”
When it was his turn to talk, Burke said he was truly sorry.
As his wife and children looked on, he stood to address District Court Judge Gregory Motyka.
“I’ve prepared a statement, your honor, and I’d like to read from it,” Burke said. But the businessman paused, looked down at the defense table and cried. After a brief break, he continued. He said he’s given up drinking.
“If there’s a silver lining in this dark cloud, it is that I have learned my lesson,” Burke said. “By the grace of God, this courtroom will not see my face again.”
In February, in a different courtroom, Burke was tried and acquitted on a charge alleging he assaulted a motorist who followed him to his house to complain about his driving.
Judge Motyka ordered Burke to write apology letters to the waitress and the bartender. If Burke complies with a host of conditions, including alcohol screening and an aggression-awareness program, the assault conviction will be wiped from his record. Motyka, however, decided to make permanent the conviction for compounding the crime.

Copyright (c) 1994, Anchorage Daily News


Posted by: Giving out women protesters phone numbers over the airways | September 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I was at the rally yesterday. You can see my photos and videos at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aliza/sets/72157607272845163/

They include an interview with Maia Nolan who was quoted in this blog post. She is the 29-year-old interviewed.

Posted by: Aliza Sherman | September 14, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I would like to commend MClare (An Alaskan Women's Perspective on Sarah Palin.)on her clear and profound statements on Sarah Palin's unsuitability. You said it wonderfully and without rancor - just the truth.

Posted by: Dee | September 14, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

It sure is good to see that even Alaskan women aren't fooled by this girl. Her 15 minutes are about up and then she might actually have to start talking about something other than when she was mayor.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Politico-

Independents swing toward McCain


By JOHN P. AVLON | 9/14/08 1:30 PM EST

In an Ideas piece, Avlon says that independents will determine the election -- and they may be for McCain.

"Independent voters — the largest and fastest-growing segment of the American electorate — were always going to determine the winner of this election.

And in contrast to past contests like 2004, where independents viewed the choice between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry as a vote for the candidate they disliked least, independents had a dream campaign in ‘08: two compelling nominees who ran against the polarizing establishments of their own parties with explicitly post-partisan appeals. It was a year in which Karl Rove’s play-to-the-base politics seemed to be on the ash heap of history.

In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

Since the GOP convention and his selection of the Alaska governor as his running mate, McCain has changed a months-long tie among independents into a 52 to 37 percent advantage. Support for McCain among self-described "conservative Democrats" has jumped 10 points, to 25 percent, signaling the shift among swing voters to McCain..."



Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

It's wonderful to see people standing up and saying what they believe in and it is a sign of where this country is going if we don't make some changes that people in that crowd were afraid to say where they work for fear of retribution. Anyone considering voting for McCain/Palin needs to consider that they are planning on continuing Bush's policies, which means that if you want to be able to voice your opinion for one side or another you'd better vote for Obama. In the last eight years our civil rights have been dangerously eroded and people are not seeing it.

If you have an opinion different from the administration's you are not patriotic. When scientists are muzzled, facts are changed, and opinions are given the same weight as fact we have a problem. When people can be arrested with no cause, and held without the chance to talk to a lawyer this country is going in the wrong direction.

Fear has become a tool which means that the terrorists are winning the battle. They don't ever have to attack again. All they have to do is make an occasional half-hearted attempt and sit back and watch and laugh. They have every person who flies taking off their shoes, carrying cosmetics in a one quart bag, with no drinks allowed. A nail file is considered a danger. We have to quit living in fear. We have to change the course that we are on. There is only one choice that will keep America free. People need to think, not react out of fear. That's not what this country is about.

Posted by: Liz | September 14, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

An Alaskan Woman's Perspective on Sarah Palin


I am a fifty-five year old woman living in Fairbanks, Alaska. I wish to voice my strong disapproval of the choice of Sarah Palin as the Republican Vice-Presidential Candidate. I expressed total disbelief when McCain selected her, as did most people in my life. Never in my wildest dreams had I considered her to be even remotely qualified to be our nation's vice-president, much less our president should that ever be the unfortunate case. I have chosen to write down my thoughts and concerns and to share them with other voters in our state and nation. I want people to know what an Alaskan resident thinks about this choice and why. I have lived here for 30 years, and yes, my family enjoys many activities in the outdoors and in the wilderness. We own guns, we hunt, we fish,we enjoy moose burgers and caribou and salmon and halibut. We pick blueberries and cranberries and harvest gardens. We have sailed in Prince William Sound, the Gulf of Alaska and in Southeast Alaska. We have hiked and kayaked in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and other wilderness areas. We are active citizens, always vote, have raised two children here, and are proud to live in Alaska. But Governor Palin would never be our choice for vice-president.

Yes, she was a mayor of a small town in Alaska with a small population of under 7000 during her tenure. She was elected with less than 700 total votes. Now she is the governor of our state which has less than 700,000 total residents, and has been so for only 18 months. She was elected with a total of 114,697 votes. Slightly over 239,000 people voted, the lowest voter turnout since 1990. You know, 17 cities in the U.S. have populations greater than the entire state of Alaska! Being Governor of Alaska is like being mayor of a U.S. city where only 239,000 people voted! She's been learning about government in a small isolated town, and in a state with a small, and isolated population. A small population base makes for a small and often less selective candidate pool. Her experience from a national and world perspective truly is miniscule. It does not make her ready to be a major player on the world stage.

The more I have learned about this candidate since her selection, the more concerned I have become, both about what she is and what she isn't. Many of my friends, both male and female, have echoed my concerns. Her characterization of her few government accomplishments is disingenuous to put it lightly. She has reaped the benefit of state coffers that are nicely in the black simply due to the state's royalty share of oil profits. Outrageous world oil prices have given us a budget surplus, not policies from Sarah. She has not had to balance the budget or overcome deficits. She has actually increased our budget considerably. She has not cut our taxes. Alaska does not even have an income tax, nor state sales taxes. What taxes is she talking about? She was definitely for the "Bridge to No Where" until the very last minute and Alaska has kept the money allocated for that project. She has been an active supporter of other earmark funds as well. I am concerned about her national misrepresentation of herself.

During the last year and a half our state has been getting to know this new governor. Her relatively high approval rating may well be due to the "honeymoon" effect of her short tenure to date. That "honeymoon" was starting to end, however, since even before this VP nomination. Questions had already been raised by Alaskans about Palin and her professionalism and judgment. Topics that were already newsworthy concerns even before this selection include: unprofessional and disrespectful talk show behavior, rocky relationships with other elected women in government, and actions against government employees based on personal vendettas. However, most people were still giving her the benefit of the doubt, or, having been so busy living and working, they had paid little serious attention to state government or to Sarah. Plus, of course, when state coffers are overflowing and both permanent fund and energy assistance checks are in the mail (totaling over $3000 per person), constituent approval is understandable.

I do not ever want to be for or against a candidate simply because of age, race, religion, or gender. I do not want to vote for a candidate simply because I can "relate" to him/her. I can relate to many of the parents of my children's friends. I can relate to women who have been soccer moms, hockey moms, homework moms, PTA moms, orchestra moms,...... as I have been. I can relate to the women in my thirteen year old book group. I can relate to people who enjoy singing, and dancing, and music. I can relate to my coworkers and colleagues. I can relate to these people in my life, but I don't want to select any of them as my vice-president or president simply because I can "relate" to them. So far Sarah has not let me know what she truly thinks and believes about important issues. During her speeches, she simply replays what she said at her convention speech. I can only assume that she wants my vote based on gender, her religious views, her less than honest portrayal of her accomplishments as small town mayor and governor of a state with a small population, and because she can deliver caustic jabs at her opponents.

Despite her assertion that she is for honest and transparent government, she is apparently not willing to be transparent as a vice-presidential nominee. She has not yet answered any serious queries by the press so that I can get to know more about her other than Alaskan issues and "scandals", her family matters, as well as her views on abortion, sex education and contraception. I want her to answer serious questions so that I can learn her views on important issues and about why she believes she is prepared for this position. The fact that she has hired a lawyer in regards to "Troopergate" makes me wonder how upfront she wants to be with this ethics investigation. Or, does she just want to stall this inquiry until after the election?

I want any candidate I vote for to be one of the best thinkers and decision-makers our country has to offer. I want them to be someone who can be respectful, who can unify, who can consider all sides of an issue, who can listen, who can evaluate, who can learn from the past. I want a candidate who can be respected both from within our country and from without. I now know that Sarah went to five colleges and then graduated with a degree in journalism and a minor in political science. I would like to know more about her background as a serious student and a deep thinker. If her grades were good or if she participated in university level organizations, this would be one way for me to know about her intellect. I have not yet seen a release of her GPA and most colleges where she attended can't remember much about her. I want to hear her speak intelligently and "off the cuff" on many issues before I know whether she has the intellect for national office.

So far, most of her comments and her demeanor in the national spotlight have been sarcastic and divisive. This is not what I want in a national leader. She has been praised for becoming McCain's "pit bull" and talking tough. But you know, if she can talk tough, she needs to truly be tough. Why isn't she talking to the press on her own? Why is she able to dish it out yet is afraid to take it? The fact that McCain's campaign says she needs to get ready to talk to the press, that she needs to prepare, and that the press needs to treat her with "deference" only shows me that she's not ready to be on the national stage on her own. This is not what I want in my vice-president or possible president. She needs to be ready to face some truly formidable characters in many different regions of the world, with very high stakes at risk. How can she be ready for those sorts of confrontations if she can't even "face" her own country's press? How can she say she is for transparency in government if she refuses to open herself up to the press? Whether or not she has been under scrutiny for her personal life, she can't hide from the press. She accepted this scrutiny when she accepted the nomination. Believe me, even more intense scrutiny comes with the job, even more than when interviewing for the job. How can I continue to interview her for this job, which is what I believe a campaign is about, if she won't even answer my questions via "the press"? If she is elected, will she also feel that she has no obligation to speak with the press? Scary thought. As a woman, I want a female candidate to believe in herself and to feel confident and comfortable talking to the press. She is letting the McCain campaign treat her as a "fragile flower" even as they use her as their "pitbull". A strong and confident woman would insist on talking to the press for herself. If she can't handle this scrutiny, or this pressure, what will she do in a national crisis?


The more I learn about Sarah Palin, the more I believe that she has not put "Country First" when she accepted this nomination. Sarah has not been honest about her accomplishments. She has not been realistic about her educational preparation. She has not been realistic or transparent about her knowledge and preparation for dealing with the national economy. She has not been realistic or transparent about her knowledge and preparation for dealing with world affairs. She is not ready to face her own country's press much less world leaders and the world press. She is not prepared for this important national and world position and SHE SHOULD KNOW THIS! Is she flattered by the nomination and unable to see beyond her ego that she is unqualified? Is she complicit in realizing that she is not qualified yet is simply being used as bait for the religiously conservative fundamental and female votes? My conclusion is that Sarah is in this for Sarah. She's willing to sell our country out for the glory of the nomination and for the chance at being a Republican window dressing. She won't be getting my vote!

Posted by: MClare | September 14, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

uh oh. Somebody lied.

(oh that's right, their Republicans)

Not 23,000 at McCain rally. Maybe 8,000.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a1J0tfV3XJYs&refer=politics

Posted by: liars | September 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

If the election goes for McCain, then I say America is fooled twice. Palin is so much like Bush in her lack of deep reflection and knowledge that it is absolutely bizarre and scary. We have too many problems in this country to go down this road again. Plus she'll set women's rights back for decades.

Posted by: Yvonne | September 14, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone trust the last surviving member of the Keating Five to bring change to Washington?

Remember the KEATING FIVE!

Posted by: HughBriss | September 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

A couple hundred angry Democrats protested? Who would have guessed. This is news? This with the protest signs and all? Hey lets see how many protesters we have out in front of that Airport in December. That Id like to watch, teeth chattering and all.

Posted by: Homunculis | September 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

anyone who truly cares about america, its constitution, freedom, liberty and world reputation, i encourage you to follow the advice of anonymous, sept.14, 2008 2:24 p.m.:
1. investigate PNAC and AIPAC and decide for yourselves if these orgs., their members and their politics truly reflect american values.
2. take the time to investigate the pummeling of civil rights by the hard rain of "presidential directives" issued by the current administration.
i fervently hope that the elections are not derailed by an "emergency", that they do take place, that these elections are untainted by the scandals of 2000 and 2004, and that the winner is inaugurated.

Posted by: rico chipotle | September 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Way to go lady Alaskans. No one tells ya'll how to think! This is even more amazing because a redneck, conservative radio host broadcast the phone numbers of the two main organizers of this rally and they got many threats if they carried this out!

Hats off to them from the lower 48!

Posted by: pamela4 | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin had decent numbers the Fairfax event because evangelicals from all over the Md, WVA and VA drove to see them. This was not just Northern Virginia. If it had been then the crowd would have been smaller and even with that the numbers were over stated. I think Obama should have protesters at every one of McCain's "dog and pony" shows. In massive numbers. Thank you Alaskans for protesting and showing the rest of us you are not just a bunch of rednecks, there are some people there who have some critical thinking skills.

Posted by: Jacquie | September 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Karen, the Post certainly did cover the McCain/Palin rally in Fairfax. Quite extensively. I just searched for "Van Dyck Park" and saw nine different items including photos and video and articles announcing the rally and discussing how it went.

Posted by: Sheisworsethancheney | September 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

This doesn't really matter anyway, McCain is NOT going to keep this scandal-prone do-nothing on his ticket more than a few more weeks. In October there will be a SURPRISE change and she'll bow out of the election.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Karen, I don't know why every protest isn't covered. Maybe everyone expects Southerners to flock to McCain, but in Red Alaska, a protest this big has never happened before. Either way, big numbers of Virginia voters do not mean that Sarah Palin is qualified to be VP. She just isn't. Like another poster said, how is this former beauty queen qualified to be Commander in Chief of the most powerful military in the world if McCain should die in office???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

There was never any rally McCain went to that had 23,000 people. Sounds like someone needs to get their facts straight. McCain would be so lucky to even get half that amount of people.

Posted by: lancelot | September 14, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

HOPE COMES IN MANY FORMS.

Hats off to the brave Alaskan protestors.

Save the Polar Bear.
Save the Wolves.

Posted by: There is no anonymous anymore | September 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

We should got Palin in 2008 Olympics

2 Gold Medals would be for sure

1. Earing per Quata
2. Liar Championships

Posted by: Raymaker | September 14, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

So McCain has a rally in Fairfax that attracts 23,000 people, and the Washington Post doesn't cover it. OBama's lawyer in Alaska make a "call to arms" to have a massive protest and 240 people show up, and it makes page 1 of the WaPO.

Can the discussion be over that the WaPo is worth allowing your bird to poop on?

They just keep using propaganda for Obama, and don't realize how it makes Americans vote opposite of how the media wants.

The liberal lunatics know that their industry is dying, they are unemployable other than Obama campaign spokesman.

Thugs. LIberal Axelrod-clone thugs. The Chicago Political machine. Reject the media bias.

McCain/Palin

Posted by: Karen | September 14, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

a new low. quoting picket signs to fill out a story.

Posted by: patr2 | September 14, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey anonymous: "

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. + two million words...

OK, I'm not a speed reader, but what's the point with all the words? Anyone with a brain knows that change ain't McCain and his frozen tundra gal.

Please try to shorten your posts.

Posted by: BisbeeAZ | September 14, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

a new low. filling out a story by quoting picket signs.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Just to expand on this news bit: I grew up in Alaska, and I've never seen this many people turn out for any political event. (I've never bothered to attend a rally or to give to a candidate. This year, every time I get mad at McCain, I send money to the Obama campaign.)

Contrary to ignorant assumptions by posters here and in the local paper, the rally was not funded by the Democrats, Obama's campaign, or any group more organized than a few ordinary women who sent out word in the middle of this week. I received four emails about the rally that had been forwarded multiple times. It was billed as a nonpartisan event and people were asked not to make personal attacks on Palin.

In response, the local rightwing McNasty announced the home phone numbers of the original organizers on the radio, and they received hate calls from listeners. Eddie Burke is the genius with the "Alaska isn't Frisco" sign. That's the level of discourse the right wing brings to issues. (He's being "disciplined" by his radio station and has conceded that calling us socialist, babykilling maggots probably went too far. Ya think?)

We wanted the country to know that plenty of us here didn't vote for Palin. As someone pointed out earlier, more Alaskans voted for other candidates than for her. Honestly, a banana could have beaten our last governor, the most self-serving politician to take office in Alaska. (Until now.)

But apart from partisan politics, we're appalled that anyone would think she's qualified to be the VP. She's cunning, she's ambitious, but she's just not that smart. God help our country if she becomes VP, because we'll have proven just how vacuous our society has become. And God help our state if she comes home--the one thing this campaign has done for Alaska is to REALLY tell us who she is. Nobody here will ever trust her again, even those who are "proud" that she's the nominee.

Keep your eye on Troopergate. The way she is allowing the McCain campaign to interfere, stonewall, and politicize the investigation will come back to bite her. Maybe no one in the rest of America will care, but I guarantee you that Alaskans will.
With the help of the FBI and the courts, we're in the middle of throwing out the Corrupt B****rds Club--an actual group of crooked politicians who are steadily being marched to prison.

And Palin is quickly branding herself as one of them. It took the vote of a Republican senator from Wasilla to allow subpoenas of Todd Palin and others to go ahead. "Let's just get the facts on the table," he said. Now that's a true reformer.

Posted by: Bluedog1 | September 14, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

victoria2dc
Thanks for the link to that-dare I say it- "liberal" rag.

My mother is 82. She too is voting for Obama. But of couse she's prejudiced, despite being a Republican. She went to that same elitist school as Obama went to in Hawaii, before I was even a gleam in my father's eye. Some have said I was probably a bad night for him, but since he's now gone, I can't confirm it.

Posted by: BisbeeAZ | September 14, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/14/103042/902/965/597033

For video and still photos of the event, click on the link above!

Looks like a very interesting event... enjoy it!

Posted by: victoria2dc | September 14, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else getting that Singles.net ad to the right of this article?

If you are, I think we need to tell the NYT to interview some of these girls. Probably at least half of them are qualified to be VP!

Posted by: BisbeeAZ | September 14, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

dpk....I have to comment:

"In the case of McCain's death, Palin IS SIMPLY NOT QUALIFIED TO LEAD THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON EARTH."
.....but most Republicans, and more importantly, Fox News, says she is; therefore she MUST BE!

"She has not met with foreign leaders; has no foreign policy experience; has never served in the Senate/Congress; has no track record in national leadership. She is NOT qualified to be Commander in Chief of the military.
.....but most Republicans, and more importantly, Fox News, says she is; therefore she MUST BE!

"She is NOT qualified to negotiate trade deals with China. She is NOT qualified to lead in dealing with Russia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. "
........now here I must really disagree. I have been told that she has immense foreign policay experience by virtue of the irrefutable fact that she lives so much closer to that "empire of Evil", so ably described by my all-time hero, Ronald Reagan. Even my second favorite hero, comic book king, Spiro Agnew, was correct when he labeled me a "radic-lib" way back in 1970. Confused yet? I'm a Swift Boat hero wanna be.

"She knows nothing about the political/oil situation in Cuba and South America. She knows nothing about Wall Street, the Federal Reserve. She has no economic experience that will be needed in the upcoming economic meltdown." .....
The only thing meltin' down is my mind right now tryin' to imagine GI John and Caribou Barbie in charge of the USA.

Posted by: BisbeeAZ | September 14, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight….

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers: a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig, and Track: you’re a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating: you’re well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl (sports caster), 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with fewer than 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America ’s.

If your husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA , your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"In the case of McCain's death, Palin IS SIMPLY NOT QUALIFIED TO LEAD THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON EARTH. She has not met with foreign leaders; has no foreign policy experience; has never served in the Senate/Congress; has no track record in national leadership."-->
Neither does/has BO, and he is running for pres, not the number 2. Flip the Dem tik, you might have an argument.
"She is NOT qualified to be Commander in Chief of the military."-->
Why? She had the Alaska NG under her, BO has had the hey hey ho community organizers under him. She has flesh and blood involved in the military. BO staples a mean poster to telephone poles.
"She is NOT qualified to negotiate trade deals with China. She is NOT qualified to lead in dealing with Russia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. She knows nothing about the political/oil situation in Cuba and South America. She knows nothing about Wall Street, the Federal Reserve. She has no economic experience that will be needed in the upcoming economic meltdown."-->
And can you point out BO's expertise?
"She will be entirely dependent upon GOP political advisers/lobbyists/corporate CEO's/Evangelical leaders, etc. to get by."-->
And who will BO rely on? Daily KoS? Ole Biden? LOL.
"This is NOT leadership. This is another puppet government. Stop focusing on abortion, Hillary, and elitism and look at the bigger picture._-->
Agreed. BO is no leader.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

It was not a couple of hundred. It was over a thousand!

We still have honest people in this country. The gig is up!!!!

You McShame/Liar supporters should be ashamed of yourselves, but I know you are not. It's ok though -- come November, I will be dancing in the streets with joy. We'll actually have the ability to put this country on the right path with Obama/Biden administration.

Posted by: Shianne | September 14, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY! We are far outnumbered here in The Last Frontier, the God, Guts and Guns Far North, the Shoot 'Em Up Corral; but we are here and we are here to stay. Sarah Palin in a scary scary individual who is not fit to lead and threatens to send the country and women back into the Dark Ages. It's true--not everyone in Alaska supports Ms Palin.

Posted by: AKFAI | September 14, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

pelosi and obama
for change?
you are witnessing
a propaganda war.
Russia Today is less
biased then the Post.
why dont you interview
more obama staffers
to get the thoughts
of the 'people'
Nobama Noway

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 14, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Protesters at campaign
events?
Calling your opponents
liars.
This is the HIGH road.
I think obama is just high.
This is so biased it
is sad.
Every poster PASTED
ON EVERY MEDIA OUTLET,
but of course,
never the issues
of the story.
if obama wins
America Loses.

Posted by: USA3 | September 14, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry. I meant that I am not only hopeful. I'm amazed. In that frozen Banana Republic, Caribou Barbie has managed to fire anybody she doesn't agree with her. Maybe some of those people are now on welfare.

And who is this anonymous Einstein, anyway? Probably another one of those Republican Masturbaters for Palin. They all live on the Swift Boat to Brainwashville.

Posted by: madman | September 14, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I see the democrats on CNN
charging people with racism
if they do not vote obama.
The democrats on MSNBC, saying
any woman who votes for Palin
is brain dead.
This is such a work of deciet.
Do your country a favor.
Vote McCain. Money should
not be able to buy the presidency.
Campaign reform? earmarks?
where is the media?
oh yes, they are campaigning
for Nobama.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 14, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

In the case of McCain's death, Palin IS SIMPLY NOT QUALIFIED TO LEAD THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON EARTH. She has not met with foreign leaders; has no foreign policy experience; has never served in the Senate/Congress; has no track record in national leadership. She is NOT qualified to be Commander in Chief of the military. She is NOT qualified to negotiate trade deals with China. She is NOT qualified to lead in dealing with Russia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. She knows nothing about the political/oil situation in Cuba and South America. She knows nothing about Wall Street, the Federal Reserve. She has no economic experience that will be needed in the upcoming economic meltdown. She will be entirely dependent upon GOP political advisers/lobbyists/corporate CEO's/Evangelical leaders, etc. to get by. This is NOT leadership. This is another puppet government. Stop focusing on abortion, Hillary, and elitism and look at the bigger picture.

Posted by: dpk | September 14, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"At least there are a few people up in Alaska who haven't been brainwashed. There's hope yet."-->

And then there is the protesters, I am sure bought by the dhimmicrats for the day.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

At least there are a few people up in Alaska who haven't been brainwashed. There's hope yet.

Posted by: madman | September 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"They missed the best sign:

McCain/Palin: UNSTABLE and UNABLE"-->

No way to talk about our Pres and VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"So it would be creating jobs to help consumers pay for higher costs of energy and to build nuclear facilities that no one wants their own backyard."-->

Since we are not going back to the horse and carriage, and there is no such thing as a free lunch,(no matter what lib philosophy a la Marx may express), and if we want to pull away from Arab/OPEC oil, and be a bit more independent, this is a path.
I do not see your point about how creating our own energy would be more expensive than buying it abroad. Would the investment be expensive in the beginning? Prob, but the energy would be cheaper and not under the thumb of villians.
If 45 nuclear power plants(McC plan)were built over the next 10 years, many jobs would be created ... and we could even use illegal immigrant labor, if that would make you happy.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

They missed the best sign:

McCain/Palin: UNSTABLE and UNABLE

Posted by: uila | September 14, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Hmm...a couple hundred get together to protest in Alaska. I wonder if they're welfare junkies?

Regarding drilling for oil...if I apply liberal logic...then if we turn off our wells an don't produce more we'll be more energy independent?

What if we apply that logic to corn? Grow less or the same next year and we'll have more to eat?

Democrats can't pass an econ class and can't be trusted to run the country.

Posted by: MakeUsProud | September 14, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone explain to me how drilling for more domestic oil to put on the world market will make us energy independent?" Annonymous @ 12:39

I can't explain it, but, like anything else, it must be true because it keeps being repeated. My common sense however tells me that if we drill and put the oil on the world market it will be sold to whoever is willing to pay the most for it."-->

"Kids, you just hit on it. You do not put it on a world market. You build the sea craft, and refineries, and field equipment, and thus the job market and economy by keeping it domestic. Couple that w/Nuclear power with the facilities to be built and the jobs it would supply, and the economic boost, etc"
________________________________________
So it would be creating jobs to help consumers pay for higher costs of energy and to build nuclear facilities that no one wants their own backyard.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"I believe I did answer the question. Nothing more specific has been asked of me."
-------------
Benjamin9, I don't see a response from you to this question."-->

Cool..rewind:
On the Pub's stewardship:
Pre 2004 - no arguments. Post '04, a few.
The right has moved toward the center and therefore lost its base over the last 8. The left has moved WAAAAYYYY left, since this is the true base of BO. But this has left Indi's and Con's out in the cold, until a Palin comes along, appealing to Con's and Indie's. So, we will see a solidification of those two "leanings" toward the real indi/con Palin.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lamarguerite | September 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"

"Can someone explain to me how drilling for more domestic oil to put on the world market will make us energy independent?" Annonymous @ 12:39

I can't explain it, but, like anything else, it must be true because it keeps being repeated. My common sense however tells me that if we drill and put the oil on the world market it will be sold to whoever is willing to pay the most for it."-->

Kids, you just hit on it. You do not put it on a world market. You build the sea craft, and refineries, and field equipment, and thus the job market and economy by keeping it domestic. Couple that w/Nuclear power with the facilities to be built and the jobs it would supply, and the economic boost, etc etc etc.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"...You people on the left invented hate!"

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 11:13 PM

----------------

Really now? Is it hate because they don't think like you? Well, try this quote...

"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
- General George Patton Jr

Explain how the 'left' hates? Is it because they went to college? Live in a city? So what does that make the 'right' who also went to college and live in a city? Someone should tell them they are haters.


Posted by: VA_Voter | September 14, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Are you talking about the Iraq war or something?" -->

"Or 9/11 maybe?


Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:25 PM "
--------
OK, I see where your coming from, you are one of the last people (besides Sarah Palin) who believes that Sadaam Hussein was behind 9/11.
Not even your president believes that."-->

Well, the question, as you know, was about abortion ...
But, if you want to talk about war, we could ... roger that bravo sierra.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

"Can someone explain to me how drilling for more domestic oil to put on the world market will make us energy independent?" Annonymous @ 12:39

I can't explain it, but, like anything else, it must be true because it keeps being repeated. My common sense however tells me that if we drill and put the oil on the world market it will be sold to whoever is willing to pay the most for it.

Posted by: WhyVote? | September 14, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"I believe I did answer the question. Nothing more specific has been asked of me."
-------------
Benjamin9, I don't see a response from you to this question.

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me how drilling for more domestic oil to put on the world market will make us energy independent?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I guess it is too big of a question to ask Benjamin9 how he feels about the Republican stewardship of this country for the last 7-8 years.

Benji can only cherry-pick his battles.

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Benjamim9,
How do you feel about the Republican stewardship of this country for the past 7-8 years?

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:21 PM
---------
So Benny-boy, are you going to answer this question or go hide like the intellectual coward you are?" -->

I believe I did answer the question. Nothing more specific has been asked of me.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Annonymous @ 12:28

I think we've seen the full package-what there is of it. But, if we haven't, how are we supposed to get it if the campaign cries sexism when there is any media coverage/questioning of her?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

"No Ben the fact my vote is supposed to make a difference is what is supposed to make ours a great nation. There is a significant difference between voting and having your vote matter. Because if your vote is only worth 3/5ths then how great is it to vote?"-->

Sorry RO, I may have missed your point.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Benjamim9,
How do you feel about the Republican stewardship of this country for the past 7-8 years?

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:21 PM
---------
So Benny-boy, are you going to answer this question or go hide like the intellectual coward you are?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"Are you talking about the Iraq war or something?" -->

Or 9/11 maybe?


Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:25 PM "
--------
OK, I see where your coming from, you are one of the last people (besides Sarah Palin) who believes that Sadaam Hussein was behind 9/11.
Not even your president believes that.

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe you are right, she hasn't personally, but her party does every day and she has not denounced it or stepped up to the plate to say leave the sexism out of it. She hasn't stepped to the plate to say she is running on her record not her sex. However,she is the one who said that the other party is probably regretting they had not chosen Hillary Clinton."-->

The moment she does argue against the attacks, she admits she is not tough enough to take it, a la BO. I think she is made of Iron and we have yet to see the full package.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

last comment to annonymous @ 12:15

Posted by: WhyVote? | September 14, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

No Ben the fact my vote is supposed to make a difference is what is supposed to make ours a great nation. There is a significant difference between voting and having your vote matter. Because if your vote is only worth 3/5ths then how great is it to vote?

Posted by: Ro | September 14, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"Destruction of innocent life rights no wrongs. What a dark attitude on the left.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:56 AM"

Are you talking about the Iraq war or something?" -->

Or 9/11 maybe?

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe you are right, she hasn't personally, but her party does every day and she has not denounced it or stepped up to the plate to say leave the sexism out of it. She hasn't stepped to the plate to say she is running on her record not her sex. However,she is the one who said that the other party is probably regretting they had not chosen Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: WhyVote? | September 14, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Cult members showed up at the airport. Who cares? Prior to accepting the GOP VP candidacy, her approval rating was 65%. No matter how hard they try Obaby's campaign can't change that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

An-
And you don't think race is a factor?

Dude you are delusional if you don't believe it does. To be real about it he didn't raise it all the talking heads did it forcing him to deal with it. But he has not used it as a crutch, instead he has tried to rise above it.

Posted by: Ro | September 14, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"Ben-
The same can be said of Mrs Obama yet she's riddiculed for it, and thus the reason I am going to write in a vote for my dad because the GOP does not represent me!"-->

I have no argument w/Mrs. BO, other than her philosophical view.

Vote for who you will, thats what makes us a great nation.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Benjamim9,
How do you feel about the Republican stewardship of this country for the past 7-8 years?

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Words to Democrats, Republicans and Independents and other good folks contemplating voting for McCain.

Put your little prejudices aside and think real hard and deep if you are really comfortable with the last 8 years and want to continue with the same for the next 4-8 years.

The same people who brought us Bush/Chaney are the same behind McCain down to his webmaster!

Be honest to yourself and don't for one minute think that the same right wing nuts that have run circle around Bush/Chaney and usurp the presidency will suddenly turn new leaf and not do the same to a 73 year old man and a naive 44 year old woman?

You are either comfortable with all the failures with this administration of which John McCain is at least 90% part of for over 30years or use good judgment and vote for a ticket that offers a complete break from the old ways of doing things in Washington.

The choice is your and you just can't have it both ways!

Posted by: M Willey | September 14, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

BTW: If your wife or daughter are raped before they are forced to give birth and raise that child with no help from the people who are forcing them, you will have to pay $500-$1,200 for a rape kit to gather evidence against your rapists.

Republicans think they should just lay back and enjoy it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"Destruction of innocent life rights no wrongs. What a dark attitude on the left.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:56 AM"

Are you talking about the Iraq war or something?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

WhyVote? ... Palin has not fallen back behind any comments about not being able to take it. She has withered the storm, while BO has cried over varous remarks ... and he raised the race factor.

Palin has shown more guts than all 3 men involved in this race.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Ben-
The same can be said of Mrs Obama yet she's riddiculed for it, and thus the reason I am going to write in a vote for my dad because the GOP does not represent me!

Keep your double standards... they're the reason we're in the position we're in. Not muslims, mexicans, gay or abortions.

I want my country back!

Posted by: Ro | September 14, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain to me how drilling for more domestic oil and then putting it on the world market is going to make us energy independent?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"Correct. Because she is a real self made person"

If she was in a real city let's say like Cincinatti, she would:

Have not been a star point-guard on her High School basketball team

Have not have been "Miss Cincinatti"

Have been elected Mayor

Have been elected Governor

and probably would have not even been a sportscaster.

SHE'S A BIG FISH IN A SMALL POND

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

"...I work for the government and have had to work under this administration and I can tell you that YOU are the last thing they care about, all they care about is demonizing government.." -->

Since you are part of this "problem", forgive me if I disregard your post.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I am a first time voter and paying attention to this whole process is causing me some concern. It is a wonder we younger generation chose to sit out at times. Paying attention to the news reports and reading some of the comments sections on the political blogs cause me to wonder is there any hope for our country. One side in particular persist in campaigning based on blatant lies (this is not the say the other side has not lied either to a lesser degree, we've gone down that road before and I am not satisfied with the direction the country is going.

I see that one side consistently accuse the other side of being unamerican simply because they don't agree with one another. Everyone who can vote in this country are Americans regardless of party affiliation.

I see that whenever there is a report on Governor Palin that attempts to provide information, the conservative side accuses the media of being "liberal" (whatever that means them ) or biased or sexist.

I see that women, of which I am one, want to be treated equally and with respect. The problem for me is that we seem to want to be treated equally, but not really. To be treated equally mean just that. If Governor Palin wants to run with the big dogs, she should be allowed to do so, but not fall back on the sexism argument the first time serious questions come her way. Our government, regardless of party, owe us explanations and the truth.

I have also seen that quite a few conservatives posting on these sites untruthfully suggesting that Senator Obama has not faced the same media scrutiny as Governor Palin. This is not true but they repeat this over and over again.

I see that some suggest that women are not one issue voters. This is true. We pay attention to things like equal pay, child care costs, education, healthcare, the war and its related cost and whether we can keep a roof over our heads. I look at who I think is better aligned with what is important to me regardless of the party. I am hoping that everyone will base their opinions on the facts that are before them and not the lies that seem rampant in this election.

I will vote this year, but I am becoming increasingly disillusioned with the whole process. It seems this election will be bought again.

Posted by: WhyVote? | September 14, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"You know damned well that if she were on the Dem. ticket she would have been laughed off the stage by now."-->

Correct. Because she is a real self made person, not a carpet bagger riding the shirttails of a husband. She is a strong woman who does not derive her strength by wanting to be more man like. She can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan, and make BO look so much less than a man.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

To all you women who want to vote for Palin because she is a woman I have to ask you one question: Who is going to help your family more? Who is interested in putting your family first before corporations, big oil and big pharma and insurance? Who is interested in making sure your kids go to college? Who is interested in keeping you in your house? All I see from the Republicans is that big oil will continue to make record profits off our backs, more of our children will be shipped off to unnecessary wars, more lobbyists running the government, more wasteful spending on a war machine instead of uplifting our country. I don't see our economy getting any better because he will continue to nail your paycheck not his rich buddies paycheck. All this stuff about lipstick and smears is phony outrage designed to dupe you into believing Palin was being picked on and that somehow the McCain cares about you and your family. McCain has been in office for 26 years! What has he done for YOUR family? What all of a sudden changed? Didnt he have his chance to be your savior when the Republicans ran everything 2 years ago? Where was he for your family then? If he can dupe you again, he can spend four to right more years telling you it's all YOUR fault that your unemployed, can put gas in your tank, your kids can go to college and oh, it's your fault that the bank foreclosed on your house and you are living under a bridge in your car, unless that go repoed too! People if you care about your family we need a government that works for us not them. I work for the government and have had to work under this administration and I can tell you that YOU are the last thing they care about, all they care about is demonizing government civil PATRIOTS and making sure that the big corportations get all those no-bid contracts (see Katrina contracts) so they ca make lots of money and then blame the civil servants for the lousy job. If I have to work for another Republican administration I will be looking for other work I can't take how the public is being riped off and lied too everyday. It hurts my heart to badly. I'm too much of a patriot to see them sell this country to the Chinese because they don't care about you until it's time to pander for your vote.

Posted by: Jacquie | September 14, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"Remember, anon, what comes up must come down. The better we get to know Sarah, the less attractive she and McCain become.
It was worth a try, though; otherwise, he would've been drubbed without ever coming close."-->

From Chapter 1 of - "The delusions of the left as they crashed and burned in 2008."

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm bored with the constant bickering between the two political camps. I'm bored with soldiers and Evangelical Christians telling us that they are somehow especially noble and honorable. They are not. I'm fed up with the corporate-owned media censoring the news and spreading propaganda. I'm bored with those who listen to that propaganda, flooding the interned with their ignorance and lack of original thought. I'm disgusted with the election tampering already taking place in GOP circles. America has no real choice in the upcoming election. Both parties will continue the war and continue serving special interests over the people. The economy will continue to crumble. And Palin? Just because she is on the GOP ticket, do Conservatives have to love her? You know damned well that if she were on the Dem. ticket she would have been laughed off the stage by now.

Posted by: cce | September 14, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"SO if your wife or duaghter is raped then she will be forced to give birth and raise that baby?"-->

Destruction of innocent life rights no wrongs. What a dark attitude on the left.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Remember, anon, what comes up must come down. The better we get to know Sarah, the less attractive she and McCain become.
It was worth a try, though; otherwise, he would've been drubbed without ever coming close.

Posted by: ched | September 14, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

easy JR ...

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"So Benjamin,
How do you feel about the REpublican's record since 2000?"-->

Finally, a question and not an accusation. Thank you. I knew all posters here were not whacked out. lol.
Pre 2004, I have no argument. Post '04, I have some issues. The Pub's have drifted from the basic tenants of conservatism, their strength, hence the Palinmania and what she stirs in centrists and conservatives.
BO and the Dem party have been hijacked by leftist ideals, BO's core in support AND philosophy. This does not resonate with the majority of people, this is not a center/left country. Hence the bloom falling from the leftist rose when a true(?)conservative arrives on the scene, Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"Look!!!! What's that in the air?"

"It's a bird! It's a plane!!"

"... No, it's John McCain's poll numbers in reaction to all the hit pieces on Palin!"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

You know I'm going to open a site and ask people to convince me that their cadidate deserves my vote and why. I'm going to set some ground rules and everyhting because I really want to know what makes these guys so deserving of my vote.

Posted by: Ro | September 14, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

So Benjamin, are you going to answer my question? or come back with more juvenielle comments?

Here, I'll repeat it for you: How do you feel about the Republican stewarship of this contry since 2000?

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Dang dude don't run...

BTW I'm a registered independent who wrote in votes for my dad in both 2000 and 2004 because neither cadidate deserved my vote

Posted by: ro | September 14, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Awww C'mon...rednecks like liars. It makes them good about their deluded life view.

Posted by: Rob L. | September 14, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"Denial can be a wonderful thing."-->

BO supporters would know.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

So Benjamin,
How do you feel about the REpublican's record since 2000?

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

This is like talking points central for Democrats. Keep it up and keep watching the polls ....later...I am outaaa here

Posted by: Ro-Please | September 14, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows John McCain reaching the 50% level of support for the first time since Barack Obama wrapped up the Democratic Presidential Nomination. McCain retains a three-point advantage for the third straight day, 50% to 47%.

Read em and weep libbie's.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Come on, Gov 101 ...

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:25 AM"
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Just as I predicted, Republicans refusing to take ANY responsibility for the last 8 years, it's ALL the Democrats fault.

Denial can be a wonderful thing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how the oil companies feel about this woman?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

SO if your wife or duaghter is raped then she will be forced to give birth and raise that baby?

Maybe Palin will raise it for you, or better yet, maybe she'll start a funded program to raise babies of rape.

But that would be like her "redistribution of wealth" plan in Alaska, you know, communism.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Dude I'm a realist and would be the first to id someone trying to spin or flip someones words and as much as I have defended the guy even as my belief in him has waned, I am just expressing my personal opinion. As far as him being his own man for a long time and going agaist the GOP let's look at what he was against and see how it marries up to his current positions. Dude, deep down this is what I feel and if in fact he hasn't changed that much then which one is the real McCain? I'm confused can you help me because one of them aint the real guy. I really doesn't matter about him being the nominee because the GOP nor Dems represent me or my interests. Especially since I have neither the money or status to gain influence, and deep down you know I'm right. And I hate to say it but I do believe the closer we get to Nov the polls will drift but more to white than right. we've come a long way, but not "that" far yet, and deep down... if you're honest with yourself... you know I'm right about that too!

BTW- Use a name other than mine because I like knowing whom I'm conversing with.

Posted by: Ro | September 14, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

If McCain and Palin win, it would be four more years of George W. Bush. Palin has so many problems: she supported the Bridge to Nowhere until she later opposed it. She had a problem with the books at the town library.
She had Troopergate. Is it possible that she can step down as the Vice Presidential candidate, as new problems will continue to emerge, such as the results of the Troopergate investigation, due out in October?

Posted by: billdoc | September 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

"Hummm! 49 democratic senators, 49 republican senators, 2 (Lieberman) independent senators,

What fuzzy math did you use to come up with a democratic controlled senate?
Do your home work stupid!!"-->

Lib name calling, don't you know that it is that mindset that is sinking BO? tsk tsk.

Pelosi has the gavel .. remember? Pelosi ordered the lights off and went on vacation with the rest of the Dem goons? Remember? Now W has been flustering them for sure, keeping the socialists in check. Just because the Dem Congress does not have sense enough to pour urine out of a boot, does not mean they are not in charge, just imbeciles.

Come on, Gov 101 ...

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Palin has been caught in lie after lie after lie. But of course, some Republicans think the truth has a liberal bias.

She lied about her support for the Bridge to Nowhere, about earmarks, about firing her chef, and about putting a jet on eBay. She thinks the Iraq is about 9/11. She is against abortion even in the case of rape or incest- image someone YOU love being sexually assaulted... and then being FORCED to have the baby by the STATE. It's a second assault upon the mother by government.

We spend $12 billion a month in Iraq (a war Mc Cain loves) and wages continue to decline along with median income. Millions of children have no health insurance.


But of course, conservatives don't care about what happens on our streets. They only get upset about what consenting adults do behind closed doors.

Posted by: LH | September 14, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Bush in a skirt..What is this 60's again when Bush was a cheerleader...

A cheerleader a little P U S S Y hiding from war that's GEORGE BUSH!!

Now he is killing Americans and making HUGH amounts of money on American kids lives he sends to war to die for his family to get even richer when your kid dies!! HAPPY AMERICA??

Posted by: 1-20-09 | September 14, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

The Moral Majority today is not in the evangelical camp - we Americans want a true revolution of political thought and ideology. ...............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/14/americans-want-a-revolution-2008/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 14, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"DUH!!! YOU don't understand math do you, stupid!

Posted by: Do your home work | September 14, 2008 11:14 AM"

I think I laid it out in very clear terms, a one-vote majority does not give ANY party much power. My point was that BOTH parties need to share some of the blame for the low rating.

And, grow up a little, children like you should be watching cartoons this morning.

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"You are part of the 20-30% that could not find anything right about MCCAIN now anyway."

I actually think that McCain would be a better President than most liberals think, especially if the Dems make significant headway in the house and senate.

But the truth is, McCain has run a shameful campaign, lies and innuendos and he really doesn't seem to have any new or really good ideas or plans to help this country and right now we are really in need of help.

Also, I think it is very evident that Palin is not ready, she has spent nearly her entire life in Wasilla, she does not have a world view or a well-rounded view and seems to embody the cronyism that she is supposedly fighting against. I found her speech at the RNC to be very juevenille.

I can see why people initially like her, but I would feel a lot more comfortable with McCain had he chosen someone with a little more experience.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

HMM did mine...did you do yours?

Nice ad hominem attack though. Got love that.

Posted by: Do your homework | September 14, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

HMMM Senate Majority Leader is Harry Reid. Is he a GOPer, an INDY, or a DEMOCRAT?

Posted by: RE: Do your homework. | September 14, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

HEY JR posted September 14, 2008 11:08 AM
"pssst the DEMS still control Congress"

DUH!!! YOU don't understand math do you, stupid!

Posted by: Do your home work | September 14, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

RO - you and I know you are simply twisting. MCCAIN has been his own man for a long time. He has been willing to stand up to the GOP and to the DEMS. Now that he is definitely the nominee for the GOP you have changed your tune for that reason only. No one-MCCAIN- changes that much in 4 years.Down deep you know I am right.

Watch the polls continue to drift right and you will find more and more Americans agree with me.

Posted by: RO- Please | September 14, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Benjamin9 posted September 14, 2008 10:28 AM
"But still have not awakened to the 9% disaster of the Dem led Congress."

Hummm! 49 democratic senators, 49 republican senators, 2 (Lieberman) independent senators,

What fuzzy math did you use to come up with a democratic controlled senate?
Do your home work stupid!!

Posted by: Do your home work | September 14, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

pssst the DEMS still control Congress

Posted by: HEY JR | September 14, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

J-
Unfortunately and very regrettablly this version of Sen McCain is not the same one from pre-2005 (when he really began positioning himself to run for PotUS). That guy I would vote for over Obama in a heartbeat, but this McCain v.2.1 is exactly what he used to rail against. It sickens me to listen to him now, wereas before even if I didn't agree with the dude I thought he really believed in what he was saying, but now I know he's saying what he believes he needs to say to get elected. The more I listen to him talk the less I respect him, and that is a shame.

Posted by: ro | September 14, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

But still have not awakened to the 9% disaster of the Dem led Congress. Hmm.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 10:28 AM

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The congress is split pretty much evenly, I think the Dems have a one vote majority.

So, I guess that means the Republican 49% gets the rating too, unless they don't want to be held accountable for the low approval rating just like they don't want to be held accountable for every thing else they've done to screw this country in the last 8 years.

For the first 6 1/2 years Bush NEVER used the power of the veto even once, since the "Dem-led" congress has been in for less than 1 1/2 years he's used the veto 6 times. No wonder people call them the "do nothing" congress, they can't get anything done because of Republican obstruction.

I think you need to "wake up" and see things how they really are Benji.

Posted by: JR | September 14, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I stopped reading your comments because it's obvious that very few Americans know how to spell or form a proper sentence w/out using the f-word. I see you've all chosen to keep the debate classy.

Posted by: ProudElitist | September 14, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Gov. Sarah Palin returned to the Outside, as Alaskans call the Lower 48??

Sooo! the GOP came up with a candidate who refers to the USA as the OUTSIDE????????

How does Moose-Lips refer to the rest of the world????

Posted by: Moose-Lips | September 14, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

You forgot the best one:

"Don't Insult My Pitt Bull"

Posted by: Toon Moene | September 14, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Debra ..how do see that it is the beginning of the end of the GOP ticket? Do you not read the papers?

Posted by: J | September 14, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the poll numbers for McCain, it would seem that for every negative story you dredge up, there are 100 positive good ones for McCain and Palin.

Expect the negative and nit-picking McCain/Palin reporting to dominate the WaPo pages as the Obama campaign sinks.

Posted by: tired of this | September 14, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Yes BIDEN believes OBAMA is not ready

Posted by: J | September 14, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

YES even in a state where the GOVERNER has a nearly 80 percent approval rating you will find several thousand that don't like the governor.

Obama is flailing and manyare in denial. Watch the polls ...they are trending MCCAIN/PALIN.

And for you posters who use words such as "McShame" "McSame" you are not very original. The use of such words tell me you likely are not very open minded anyway. You are part of the 20-30% that could not find anything right about MCCAIN now anyway. The same MCCAIN that was considered for DEM VP last go around. OH-you forgot didn't you. The same MCCAIN that BIDEN said he would be happy to see on the DEM TICKET. That same BIDEN (THE OLD WHITE GUY who has been part of the establishment for ever).who stated OBAMA is not ready to be President.

Posted by: J | September 14, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Why did this blog posting neglect to mention that Eddie Burke called the organizers "a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots”, and read the home phone numbers of the organizers aloud over the air? This needs to be brought to light.

The same tactics were used in Rwanda.

Posted by: winker425 | September 14, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

It is a sign of time that we should seriously consider the outsourcing of military operations to foreign govts in order to reduce the stress of oversea deployment on our military. Lets seriously consider the very "Republican, market place" idea of outsourcing military operations to foreign govts. This in the long run would save Uncle Sam from spending on military retirements, pensions & benefits for future military retirees.
We can also save the US taxpayer money by outsourcing the recovery & refurbishing of US military equipments to China, a low cost, substantial saving for the US taxpayers.

Posted by: Gaston | September 14, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I didn't think anybody with a chance of obtaining the presidency would be worse than Bush. McCain/Pailin may prove me wrong.

Posted by: Charles | September 14, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Woo Hoo! You go Alaska women! This proves your not all Stepford Wives! Love those homemade signs!

Posted by: pamela4 | September 14, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

JeffK; Don't count on my kids to serve in the military under a Palin-McCain administration.It is high time for the "flag waving " crowd, warmongers, right wing, Evangelical zealots to volunteer their kids and perhaps to sacrifice them on the altar of ExxonMobil, Halliburton, KBR, Chevron, Texaco. No parents in their right mind will want their kids to serve in the military. Don't count on hard working American families to do your bidding.
STEP UP TO THE PLATE & DO YOUR BIDDING.

Posted by: Gaston | September 14, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

"If I remember President Bush once had a 90% approval rating. But then the American people woke up. He has been under 30% for a long long time."-->

But still have not awakened to the 9% disaster of the Dem led Congress. Hmm.
Sic the Pitbull on em........the American protest against BO will far far far outweigh any little leftist gathering in Alaska.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

jeff k.-
As a soldier, in one of those countries the last thing I want is to drop a "nuke on one of their asses". That is definitely not the statement I want the country I've sworn to defend with my life to make. There is a great big world out here and for every action there is a reaction... Newton taught us this, and believe you me I have seen enough to know it applies to more than just apples in trees.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

RCP ELECTORAL MAP 9/14/08

Obama/Biden 207
157 Solid 50 Leaning

McCain/Palin 227
172 Solid 55 Leaning
Toss Up 104
104 Toss Up


State-by-State Changes

Electoral Count RCP National Avg.

09/14 Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up Obama 207 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

09/13 Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain Obama 217 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

09/11 Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5

09/11 North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5

09/11 Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5


09/14 Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up Obama 207 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Jeff K: I can't imagine anything more hateful than dropping a nuke on a place inhabited by people. Can you? Don't get me wrong here; I'm not defending any words that attack "the troops." I'm just kinda tired of hearing warwanters calling others hateful.

Posted by: Mark from Planet Earth | September 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Shirley, don't despair. Some of us are still trying to think right and do right. I prefer to vote for David Kucinich, Neil Young, or maybe my 5 year-old granddaughter. The way I see it, this country and its government are so broken that there is little chance that anyone elected by this broken system will bring about changes that actually begin to mend what is broken. America doesn't need war. Americans don't need to be the wealthiest. America does not need more oil to burn, or more freedom to kill, take, torture and pollute. We all know that the taking of another useful life is bad. Let's create a society that would not look to abortion as an option (although it will always be one). You want "smaller gubment?" I can’t see how criminalizing abortion does that, but me too. Let's start by down-sizing what has become the new DoD (Homeland Security, all oil-acquisition partners, old DoD, all the "protection" agencies...) and its collective budget. I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of my tax dollars went toward the operation of the agency mentioned above. I wonder how much of that budget goes into the foreign military sales departments. Yeah, Yeah, the Muslim extremists want to destroy my way of life. I’ll consider the warning, while also knowing that the gubment often speaks with forked-tongue in regard to such things. Explain again how the distribution of jets and missiles, UAVs and other war technologies to other incompetent gubments makes my family safer. Yeah, yeah illegal aliens are destroying the infrastructure. I’m more worried about how industries and infrastructure are destroying my natural habitat, and how our President thinks we need an energy plan that “promotes consumption,” as opposed to responsible consumption and the reductions of wastefulness and irresponsible destruction. I'll continue making my own changes here at home. That said, I'm 49, and my mom will back-hand me if I don't vote for Obama. Barack, you're a good writer, an excellent speaker and I believe you have a good heart. I Hope you are true, and able to be a good leader. Peace, Love and be nice to Mother Earth.

Posted by: Mark from Planet Earth | September 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Some of these hateful remarks toward our soldiers are very despicable.After all the media bias and blatant lies they have fed us for several yrs. I will listen to the soldiers viewpoint always.You people attacking the are very disturbed,thank god you live in a country where these same soldiers defend your right to say such hateful foul words towards our leader as well as your own military.How sad you are, you must really hate yourselves to spit such vile words.I really wish all these America haters would do us all and themselves a favor and pact your crap up and move to Cuba or Russia and get it over with. I know this will inflame most of you demented liberals but I do not care what our soldiers do to these people,after what was done to us on 911 I would be just fine with us going thru the entire middle east one country at a time and destroy every one of those cowards.Actually the only mistake we made was not dropping a frickin nuke on their ass,I bet that would make a pretty good statement.You people were just like the Muslims when 911 happened,dancing in the streets I'm sure.Screw what the world thinks of us,I do not care,since our beginning we have been the ones to defend them when they were in trouble,bail them out financially,and feed all their poor.I got an Idea,let's pull all our troops back to our shores and isolate ourselves from all the fanatical freaks of the world and let them eat themselves alive.Another thing I don't care about is the supposed abuse by our soldiers,did they care about the abuse of killing innocent women,children,brothers,fathers,mothers,
daughters,etc. all over the world including on 911? NO. When are you retards going to get it? They want you and me dead and it has nothing to do with our policies,and everything to do with our way of life.They want all who do not worship Allah to die,PERIOD. So I say lets get it on,they started this crap and you can be sure that we will finish it...

Posted by: Jeff K. | September 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I noticed several comments indicating that the "lies" about Gov. Palin that the "biased" media have been debunked. Where? I haven't seen any debunking. It wouldn't by any chance be that Rush Limbaugh or some other denizen of hate radio is singing her praises.

I get so tired of the conservative persecution complex. Whine, whine whine. The media is not out to destroy you all. But it must be nice to have this us against the world feeling. Just like David and Goliath. Or maybe you guys are more like the pharisees - who pray loudly from the street corners to be seen of men but who did not find Christ's approval.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

you say palin unqualified but what about obama she might be president he will be. I believe if america is ever to be blessed by God again we have to quit having abortions Obama supports them mcain and palin don't that's good enough for me

Posted by: mn logger | September 14, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

In 2006 Palin received 114,697 votes.

123,610 Alaskans voted for other candidates.

Imagine there must be a sizable majority of alaskans wondering why the idiot was selected for VP.

Remember that sensation Billy Ray Cyrus and Achy Breaky Heart?
Someday Sarah Palin will join Billy Ray Cyrus with her rendition of “I’m just your average hockey mom”. You can almost hear it now Sarah Palin and the First Dude yesterday released their hit single

She’s a Pit Bull with lip stick on!
Just an average hockey mom!
Send her to Washington and watch her rock!

The was a larger silent majority of americans who thought billy ray was sad also.

Posted by: del3 | September 14, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Its time or viable third parties to have a voice. The current system is horribly broken, as both parties goal is simply attaining power, not working to better the country. The candidates are all wealthy senators (or politicians) that have built wealth in public office through contributions for lobbies. The system requires a sitting politician to maintain huge money reserves to stay elected. This money doesn't come from citizens, but special interest groups and corporate lobbies.
The reality is it makes little difference which of these candidates we choose, as neither of these men is going to be capable of making the sweeping changes we need to solve the two most important issues we face: ENERGY AND ECONOMY. The rest of the "issues" are secondary noise.

Posted by: Kev | September 14, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The Bloom coming off of Palin as Alaska Women Reject Palin Rally is HUGE!

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/

Politicians who lie to the public are engaging in a Betrayal of the Public Trust and it should be deemed unethical and a part of the past as we move toward a more Holistic way of life here in America.

Great Film Exposing John McCain’s Lies — Pass it on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Are we finally pulling back the Curtin on the Wizards?

Lastly, Ground Zero is a Symbol and a message of Republicans' failed policies and a gaping Wound, that after 7 years Ground Zero is still a hole, still zero -- that we were unable to lift ourselves out of the ashes and make ourselves whole again. You see, nothing from nothing leaves nothing and that is not Change we can believe in!

Posted by: Angellight | September 14, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

A commentor recently accused this group of being the "Legalize Dope" crowd..I think this protest was more of a local populist uprising with the theme...

"Don't vote for a dope!"

Even if they are wearing lipstick!

I thought the trash-talkers and manure-heads here were bad back in Sept/Oct 2006, but this Palin thing has really brought the cockroaches out of the Republican woodwork. Still haven't read a single redeeming comment supporting Palin OR McCain, only volatile vitriol and partisan patentisms, the actual ideological "debate" ended months ago, when the reality of a potential 45-state Democratic landslide began to trickle down from on high.

Since then, it has been a real gas watching the partisan word-gyrations, especially from the foamy-mouthed Palnistas.

How typically hypocritical of them; accuse Obama of messiah-envy, elitism and "celebrity" when he gets huge popular support, draws enormous crowds spontaneously wherever he goes, and inspires record voter turnout at the early polls. But when PaLin slithers onto the stage, they immediately elevate her to messianic status in a celebrity love-fest for the ages.

HYPOCRITES!

Posted by: JEP | September 14, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Some commentators compare Palin to Dick Cheney. That is a gross insult to Cheney who is a brilliant, experienced politician. Palin is a totally inexperienced hockey mom without any qualifications useful to a Vice President of the United States, let alone President.

Posted by: Bodo | September 14, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Pussy O'Palin what a laugh. Too afraid to talk to the media on her own unscripted. She regurgitates exactly what white republican men want to hear and she does it in short skirts and low necklines how could they not but love her. She is the perfect spokesmodel for the RNC. Pull her string and the RNC platform spews out. You can be sure of one thing she won't be representing working americans.

Posted by: swanky7611 | September 14, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

If I remember President Bush once had a 90% approval rating. But then the American people woke up. He has been under 30% for a long long time.

I wonder if people in Alaska's most popular Gov is seeing her approval rating fall as more of her scandals come to light? One can only hope.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Hey Shirley, I have an idea. How about we make Obama the President of the European Union? You Euro Socialists can have your government-controlled utopia and America can have the leadership that it really wants.

Posted by: Dave | September 14, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight. Here's a GOVERNOR with an 80 to 90% Favorable Rating, in her State, and this little protest, from the Legalize Dope cadre, is a news story? Keep it up Press Losers. You're just making folks, REAL FOLKS, like her, more and more.

Posted by: Timothy L. Pennell | September 14, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 8isTooMuch | September 14, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Please, USA citizens, for the sake of those living outside of USA, we need you to be the super power. The alternatives are unthinkable. But under the Bush presidency, respect for your great nation has all but disappeared. Most people cannot understand how you choose Bush for two terms. If you chose a McCain, Palin presidentential ticket, you will truly be alone in the world. Any support that was out there for you will all but evaporate and you may very well be the laughing stock of the free world as being a nation that is so out of touch with the real issues going forward. When people think of America, it is not America the great, but America the ignorant and pathetic.
Think deeper. Obama represents the future and is the only hope America has of regaining respect in the rest of the world.

Posted by: shirley | September 14, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Here's a link to a local Alaskan blogger with a full report and photos

Posted by: 8isTooMuch | September 14, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

This sounds like the turnout for a McCain rally. Come on Team Obama! Let's get 5 or ten people over at http://www.boppoll.com and make our bops count! We have to get organized and get McCain's number up! That's our protest!

Posted by: RStone | September 14, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I don't see Palin's appeal to women. I'm an Independent who usually votes Republican. I voted for Bush twice (I now regret the second time though I still can't stand John Kerry). I voted Clinton in 1996, Perot in 1992 and Republicans going back to 1980 when I was first old enough to vote. And I've proudly voted for Republican governors here Florida.

I was ready to vote for John McCain because I thought he, more than anybody else, could restore the Republican Party to what it was before the corrupt DeLays and Cunninghams took over. I LOVED McCain's RNC speech.

But since then he seems to have morphed into something nastier. The sex offender ad was so gross that I vowed at that point never to vote for him; my nephew in Cub Scouts learns how to avoid sexual predators and that's what the "comprehensive sex education" proposal was trying to do. Trying to turn this against Obama is insulting.

Then there's the Palin pick. Forget what you read about in the media, I was a bit insulted by it. Obviously I would have loved to see a woman in the VP role or in the White House. But I don't vote on identity politics like the hard left does.

I feared she was completely unqualified when she was picked and everything that's come out since has only proved it. I never cared much for Hillary Clinton's politics, but I have no doubt that she was ready to step in. Sarah Palin is not.

What's worse is that John McCain, a man who I voted for in the Florida GOP primary in January, is showing me that he's the man I thought he was in picking her.

Right now the only question is leaving the Presidential ticket blank or going to the Dems. I'm open to Obama now more than ever. And I know in conversations with others here in SW FL that I'm not alone.

Posted by: Tammie in Ft. Myers | September 14, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Washington Post: Where's the pictures of a hometown protest? Where's the story?
burying it on a backpage blog doesn't do either of us any good.
Good thing we have the ladies of The View with enough gumption to get the job done when it comes to reporting with muscle.
sheesh. pathetic.

Posted by: Wesley Dumont | September 14, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

"I have been a lifelong Democrat, but Obama's lack of leadership experience and his record of failures has me very concerned. I have to put my country ahead of my party. I will be voting for McCain/Palin in Novemver. I did not leave the Democrat party, they left me.

Posted by: Mary Watson | September 14, 2008 9:03 AM"

And why is this Mary? Because the old man picked a younger good looking mommy who is a liar and a temper that matches her running mate? Please tell us how you come to the conclusion that Obama lacks leadership and that McPalin qualifies?

Perhaps some of you people should research why Thomas Jefferson created the Democractic party. I am regiatered independant and will remain that way. But of both parties that have true patriotic and core American values... I believe the Democratic party does. The GOP lost it many many years ago. The only sane one is Ron Paul, but the rich, elite, neo-cons won't allow him to be heard!

God help us if McBush and Palin steals this election too...

Posted by: Ed | September 14, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Governor Sarah Palin has the sarcasm of Mayor Guiliani, the leadership abilities of Governor Huckabee, the same policy ideas of Governor George W Bush and the honesty of Vice President Dick Cheney.

Posted by: del3 | September 14, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Panchetta | September 14, 2008 6:46 AM

I am all for that action please let me know how I can help.

I find it amazing how the liberals are finally showing who they truly are.It was the conservative party to abolish slavery,it was conservatives who fought for women to be able to vote,it is conservatives who place women on average in far higher positions of government,it is conservatives who actually pay women more fairly than the liberals do.But the liberals want us to believe that they are the party of the little man,equal rights and so on.What the liberals are is in fact the party of racism.They want to create all these government programs for the masses that only induce dependency on government.It is basically another form of slavery.Once all these people stop trying to strive for success or greater things in life because the government tells them they can't without them they stop depending on their own skills all together.Once this happens then what America is left with is "Class Warfare"Liberals don't want people to succeed without the government,if they did then their own existence becomes endangered.This is why they are all going after Palin with such fever,she embodies what a down to earth everyday American is.Let us remember this thought by our founding fathers who quite frankly are rolling over in their graves over the Dem's actions.The government is for the people by the people.They believed in self governance,which I believe to be that we the citizens of the United States should always have the right to govern ourselves.plain & simple their thoughts were that every American should be able to take office,not just people who attended law school or some Ivy league east coast school.My entire life I have never seen one normal American citizen achieve a position in the White House,we have had a life time of these career minded politicians,I think it is time for some one outside of this realm to govern.some one who never planned on becoming president some day,some one who just wanted to make the neighbors lives better.We have all become so adjusted to ONLY high power,wealthy,Ivy league educated people being elected to the White House that we have allowed these people to alter the the direction and change the needs of every American citizen.All these politicians want you to think that they can so relate to your individual problems but it just is not possible.Even Obama who started out with little has been influenced by power and has lost his way.Whats the proof you say?When he was elected to the US senate his wife's employer received a Huge chunk of earmark cash and in return Mrs. Obama received a two hundred thousand dollar raise? At that moment Obama lost his ability to relate.Sara may not be perfect and I know that we all won't agree with all her views but the simple fact that she is ordinary just like me,just like us makes her far more capable to help give rise to this great country we call America!Just imagine for a moment the great deeds that could be accomplished if we were able to find 2 or 3 hundred more of her or the likes to send to Washington? I truly believe that this country would again be the country that our founders intended,the tremendous country that thousands have given their lives to defend.The professionals have failed us completely,both sides have ruined our way of life.Let's make the change we believe we deserve and start getting rid of the career politician for the good of us all...

Posted by: Jeff K. | September 14, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Mary Watson,
Learn how to troll better. When you say "Democrat Party" you give yourself away.

Posted by: Elrod | September 14, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

There is one intriguing aspect of this Gallup daily tracking poll that the cable news channels never seem to talk about. John McCain has never hit the 50% mark. Obama hit 50% in the week just after the dem convention. McCain did get close, at one point hitting 49%. That was last Sunday when the McCain bounce--or should I say the Palin bounce hit. Lat Sunday, it was McCain 49%, Obama 42%. Today, it is McCain 47%, Obama 45%.

McCain seems to have gotten a bounce but the race is settling down to pretty much what it was before the conventions. Here is the problem McCain has. Sarah Palin is like that new car we all buy. For the first week we are thrilled with that new car smell. But has time goes on, that new car smell disappears, the thrill wears off.

When Palin really starts to sink in as the public begins to assimilate more and more unsavory information about just how she governs, the so-called Palin effect will begin to dissipate. The right will always be in thrall to her because she is in fact very far right. That's why they lover her. The question is what will the independents do? Especially white women. My guess is that once they begin to perceive just how conservative Palin really is, they will drift back to Obama. Hillary voters have already began that slow trek.

I predict that by the time the debates roll around, the tracking polls will be right back where they were: Obama at 45% to 49%, McCain at 42% to 45%. And those battleground state polls will follow suit.

Posted by: Jaxas | September 14, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

"Oh, did I mention that I am a patriot as I suppose are you? Anger can lower a person's lifespan so I hope you can get over it.

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 10:08 PM"

Yeah, and I read most of your posts... I think you are a hypocrit and very much out-of-tune with what is happening in this country and especially the last 8 years of this evil administration. If you can't see we are going through the same thing that the Third Reich crusaded in the 1930's and 40's.. you are either blind or you are part of the problem!

Posted by: Ed | September 14, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Every day we learn about more lies from Sarah Palin. And the morally bankrupt conservative Republicans love every moment of it.

Indies were intrigued by Palin. They may not love the media. But their interest in Palin wanes every day as she is caught in lie after lie. What's more, her embarrassing performance with Charlie Gibson showed what an absurd pick she was. Independents, especially Independent women, don't vote on gender. They vote on character, issues, competency and integrity. Palin has failed on all of these scores. Whining about the "liberal media" might rally the right wing, but Independents know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Posted by: Elrod | September 14, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Nice fake post
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I have been a lifelong Democrat, but Obama's lack of leadership experience and his record of failures has me very concerned. I have to put my country ahead of my party. I will be voting for McCain/Palin in Novemver. I did not leave the Democrat party, they left me.

Posted by: Mary Watson | September 14, 2008 9:03 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding Mccain has been dropping every day. The big surge is over

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I love the way these lefties keep on posting the same old lies about Palin that were shot down many times. My, my, smells like deperation!!! Keep it up. The more you attack Palin the more her favorables go up. Oh did you notice McCain lead continues to grow in the polls.

LOL!!!

Posted by: Letrisha Washington | September 14, 2008 8:52 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse


Unbelievable.

Day after day...

The Washington Post has only one mission in life:

TO DESTROY SARAH PALIN.

Why? She is a woman and a Republican. And the Republican party CANNOT be the first party to put a woman or African American in office.

Much of the mass media is destroying it's credibility with these constant attacks on Palin, but they don't care.

Obama launched his campaign from the home of a terrorist -- William Ayers. But the Washington Post has never gotten around to talking about it.

For all of you that value democracy, do you understand what is happening?

The Post and other major media sources are attempt to pick our next President.

This is not journalism.

Unbelievable.


Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 14, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

GENERAL PETREUS SAID "YOU CAN'T LOCK UP EVER DAD, SON, UNCLE, GRANDFATHER AND COUSIN IN IRAQ THAT CARRIES A GUN AND SHOOTS AT YOU. THE MILITARY ISN'T THE SOLUTION THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO PAY THESE GUYS TO PROTECT THEIR OWN PROVINCES." THIS IS THE REAL REASON THE SURGE IS WORKING. AMERICAN TAX PAYERS MONEY HARD AT WORK...

THANKS BUSH/CHENEY/MCAIN.....I FEEL SAFER NOW AND I KNOW WHY WE MUST STAY THERE FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS.......WE ARE THE REFERREES!

Posted by: CLUELESS IN WASILLA | September 14, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Lyndon Johnson = War on Provety = Distruction of the Black Family.

Ronald Regan WAR ON DRUGS = Mordan day slave insitutions for African Americans.

George Bush Jr. War on Terriost= war against all Americans with income $250k a year.

Posted by: gtalkspolitics | September 14, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

I have been a lifelong Democrat, but Obama's lack of leadership experience and his record of failures has me very concerned. I have to put my country ahead of my party. I will be voting for McCain/Palin in Novemver. I did not leave the Democrat party, they left me.

Posted by: Mary Watson | September 14, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are both liars, and they're so lame and stupid they have to steal someone else's campaign themes to "energize" their campaign. Lie and steal now, lie and steal later. These empty body bags have no substance, no integrity, no nada. When they gurgle about their eagerness to "serve", that subtext is that they're going to serve you up to fascism, greed and war. All just more of the same of the same evil. McCain a war "hero?" he only flew a few missions killing innocents from 30,000 feet. A hero is someone who saves others. Vietnam was all about the US killing others, doing what it does best.

Remember, they'll serve you up.

Posted by: joe | September 14, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Bush rushed us to war without a plan to win the peace (A very accurate line of Kerry's) but the Democrats have blood on their hands??? If voters hadn't rebuffed Bush in O6, Rumsfeld would still be Defense Secretary, things could well still be hopeless. We're lucky most of the Sunnis decided they hate al-Qaeda more than they hate the U.S. The professionalism of the vast majority of our troops in Iraq must have a lot to do with that, and they should take great pride in what they've achieved. But all Bush has done is get the bus pulled partway out of the ditch he drove it into at such great cost in lives, and severe injuries, and what will be a trillion $ of borrowed money before we're done. So many wise investments in our human resources and our future could have been made with a trillion dollars.

Posted by: newageblues | September 14, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Bush rushed us to war without a plan to win the peace (A very accurate line of Kerry's) but the Democrats have blood on their hands??? If voters hadn't rebuffed Bush in O6, Rumsfeld would still be Defense Secretary, things could well still be hopeless. We're lucky most of the Sunnis decided they hate al-Qaeda more than they hate the U.S. The professionalism of the vast majority of our troops in Iraq must have a lot to do with that, and they should take great pride in what they've achieved. But all Bush has done is get the bus pulled partway out of the ditch he drove it into at such great cost in lives, and severe injuries, and what will be a trillion $ of borrowed money before we're done. So many wise investments in our human resources and our future could have been made with a trillion dollars.

Posted by: newageblues | September 14, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Let see, the liberals hate Palin because she is an accomplished conservative woman. But these same liberals love Obama who:
- Has accomplished nothing in life.
- Has a mentor in Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist.
- At the one shot at leadership experience with the Annenberg education project, Obama blew through $160MM and failed miserably.
- Obama is an admitted coke head.
- When no telepromter, he uses "ah" and "um" every other word.
- Has no more foreign affairs experience that Palin.
- His wife is not proud of America.
- He sends his kids to private school instead of the Chicago public schools that he supposedly "helped" (not).
- Obama wrote no legislation while in Illinois state senate. He was known as a "bill - jacker" to his Dem colleagues.
- Obama spent his brief time in US senate running for office.
- Obama plans to raise taxes and redistribute the money to those who do not pay any taxes.
- He authored no articles as Editor of the law review.

Now that the American public is finally paying attention to the election, Obama is being exposed for the empty suit that he is.

McCain/Palin have taken the lead in the polls and their lead keeps growing. It is going to be a great election day for America.

:D

Posted by: Michelle Davis | September 14, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin = George W. Bush with Talibangelical Lipstick

Posted by: johnnyreb | September 14, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

PALIN IS A M.I.L.F. WHO IS ABOUT TO BE A G.I.L.F. I UNDERSTAND THE FASCINATION WHITE MEN HAVE ABOUT HER. THAT'S WHY MCAIN IS UP IN THE POLLS. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT SHE'S ABOUT ONLY HOW SHE LOOKS. THE RACE IS NOW OFFICIALLY A BEAUTY PAGENT.

GOD HELP SAVE US FROM CARRIBOU BARBIE.....

ROLL THE TAPE OF COURTESY OF YOUTUBE WHY SHE IS CLUELESS AND MCAIN PROVED IT WITH HIS ANSWER OF THE BUSH DOCTRINE....http://www.etherdrift.net/arnoldcam/

Posted by: CLUELESS IN WASILLA | September 14, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

LOL, Palin is a Joke. I really find it hard to believe that anyone with a single ounce of common sense would take McCain/Palin seriously.

Jiff
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

Posted by: Jiffy Jones | September 14, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I love the way these lefties keep on posting the same old lies about Palin that were shot down many times. My, my, smells like deperation!!! Keep it up. The more you attack Palin the more her favorables go up. Oh did you notice McCain lead continues to grow in the polls.

LOL!!!

Posted by: Letrisha Washington | September 14, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

This demonstration represents the best of grassroots organizing by women for women.

At the RNC - the first three sentences Palin uttered alarmed me and i started a week long effort on my own to learn who she is and why her for VP.

After researching over 100 hours about Palin on the internet including reading Alaska legislature and pipeline proposals, I came to the conclusion that not many words out of Palin's mouth are true.

As a woman, that depresses me beyond words.

This election, as the two prior ones, emphasizes the great divide in this country between those who want to believe anything without doing personal research and those that do not.

Perhaps this has always been so. But this time we must say ENOUGH - and encourage all persons to read and discuss the important issues of our nation and the world and make solid educated decisions.

Posted by: ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck | September 14, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

As Mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin forced the police department to charge rape victims for forensic rape testing.

"Palin had been in office for four years when the practice of charging rape victims got the attention of state lawmakers in 2000, who passed a bill to stop the practice."

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/523708.html


Posted by: AKwatchman | September 14, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

The McCain/Palin camp distorts, dissembles and lies, the press reports on factual inaccuracies, and the McCain/Palin camp cries foul (another distortion), a perfect warped cycle of Rovian/Schmidt underhandedness.

Posted by: Larry | September 14, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Despite McCain's claim that Sarah Palin never sought earmarks, Govern Palin in fact requested over $200 Million in earmarks for Alaska in 2008. McCain's statement is simply not true.
See: http://www.adn.com/palin/story/524331.html

Posted by: AKwatchman | September 14, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Stay Safe, for Change its McCain Palin. For a stammerer, Barack H Obama, who is now claiming to be Jesus H Christ the community organizer, welcome to your worst nightmare.

INFIDEL>

Posted by: Infidel | September 14, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Im an American on Vacation in Holland and people from all over the world are begging me to make sure that Obama wins...Why? Not because they want to spread their socialism around the world, but because they want to trust the American government again.

Just average normal bar going Europeans can have a conversation about what is going on in the world and Americas role which I could only dream of having with average Americans. The bottom line is that they know that McCain is a 3rd Bush term and the average European will not vote for leaders who support Bush/McCain policies...So while you Republicans blah blah blah about Freedom Fries the rest of the world is prepared to Stand Against another Republican administration with their Vote...So ask yourself when McCain says that he will revive American respect in the world...How exactly is he going to do that? With more war?

Posted by: Becky | September 14, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

You conservatives always get angry when facts are revealed about your candidates, and you whine that your candidate is getting "smeared". Facts are not smears. My God, you are such weenies. Suck it up. Truth hurts, but at least behave like adults.

Posted by: FilmMD | September 14, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

After reading the derisive, hate-filled stories and "opinions" of the media, looking desperately to find every person in Alaska who holds a grudge against Sarah Palin, looking for all the failed projects, while not once pointing out the successes, using the most condescending, poison laced descriptions of every part of her life and belief system, makes me want to cheer on anyone who will come out against Obama in the same way. The MSM just hates the fact that a person, going to an "average" University could possibly have the political and intellectual savvy to understand how to get things done in government. We don't need these long drawn out intellectual discussions on what to do while never having the courage to put your stamp on anything except a "present" vote.. I believe John McCain and Sarah Palin will demonstrate the right restraint in dealing with issues. I don't believe Obama will have the courage to act on anything. Just like the MSM is at it best when filling pages and pages of their clever, but ultimately common diatribes against Palin.

Posted by: BJLeone | September 14, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

An accurate report of the Alaska Anti-Palin rally is available at http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/525510.html.

As community organizer in Wasilla, Palin tried to force creationism into local schools (failed). As Mayor, Palin tried to censor the local public library and then tried to fire a librarian who objected (failed). As Governor, Palin invited the state legislature to put a complete ban on all abortions on her desk so she would sign it (failed). We Alaskans have had to protect our personal freedoms from Sarah Palin.

Posted by: AKwatchman | September 14, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Why so much hate from such loving Dem's? Isn't that what obama is all about? Lets stop all this fighting and come together and hug. obama should send social workers to russia to help them coup with their aggression issues.

Posted by: John Willock | September 14, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Actually, my Mom would make a better president than Senator Obama.

Plus, she can actually utter a coherent sentence without the use of a teleprompter.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel | September 14, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/second-time-as-farce-how-palin-is.html


Friday, September 12, 2008
Second Time As Farce: How Palin is Exactly Like Bush, Part 2

From Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson:

Palin: "Our national leaders are sending them on a task that is from God"

Gibson: Are we fighting a holy war?

Palin: (looking strained, desperate, trapped): The reference there is from Abraham Lincoln who said "Never presume to know God's will..."

Robert Zimmerman: She failed to describe how a McCain/Palin foreign policy would differ from a Bush foreign policy

Gibson: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

Palin: I have not, and I think that if you go back in history, and ask that question of many Vice Presidents they have the same answer that I just gave you

Anderson Cooper: Bay, ABC News just did a fact check. They looked back the last 30 years, all Vice Presidents have met a foreign leader. Does that matter?

Bay Buchanan: No, it doesn't at all. Her answer was excellent. It will make Americans feel that much closer to her. She's very real. Sure, she hasn't traveled overseas to meet these foreign leaders. But that's not what American's are looking for. She's absolutely correct. They want somebody that they can relate to. Who's hearing them. They're sick and tired of those people in Washington who may know lots of facts and figures and meet lots of people...

Zimmerman: It's always a danger when we have leaders who know facts and figures, Bay. That really does get in the way of setting up sound policies...My concern, Bay, is that when Sarah Palin says that she's not met foreign leaders like that's a good thing--We made that mistake eight years ago when George W. Bush was that likable guy that you wanted to invite over for a barbeque.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/second-time-as-farce-how-palin-is.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

You have to hand it to the Democratic Party - they are really good at undermining any women that wants to step up for a higher leadership position - they smeared Hillary and now they have mobilized an all out attack on Sarah.

Democrats are sexist who believe giving women a choice of abortion is enough to keep them quiet and voting Democrat. Meanwhile women still earn 33% less than their male couterparts and face tremendous discrimination in the workplace and prejudice in the community.

ALL women need to WAKE UP. This is one Democrat Femeinist who will be supporting my gender and not my party (that has done nothing for me for decades). I will be voting enthusiastically for Sarah Palin!

Posted by: Democrats are Sexist | September 14, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I know she has an 80% approval rating. Team Obama needs to get more people out. We need to top 600,000 today at http://www.bop-o-rama.com. McCain's number is way too low. Maybe we can try to get ten people on at once. That would give us 600 bops per minute.

Posted by: RStone | September 14, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully lots of other media sources will dig up even more facts on this McCain-Palin nightmare ticket

Posted by: taid | September 14, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Panchetta- well put!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

I didn't know that Obama had placed that many people up there. I thought they were there to find dirt not protest.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Every time the libs slash Sarah Palin, Obama bleeds. Keep it up. You will kill your favored empty suit.

What has Obama done? Nothing.

Posted by: aleklawyer | September 14, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Joe: you miss the point. The election is not about the past but about the future.

McCain is the best for the future of America. Strong security and small government. You see, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would rather send you a check when things get bad and they want to do it again this fall.

Instead of bribing me with my own money, shouldn't they just let me keep my money in the first place?

These dems recognize the basic TRUTH: that I'm the best judge of how to apply my money and sweat! This explains why Americans are the most generous in the world.

I'd say that McCain has a much better chance at changing Washington than Obama. He has actually refused earmarks while Obama would rather spend your money.

Posted by: Peter | September 14, 2008 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton's Former Chief Strategist on Palin and the Media-

CBS News 9/12/08

CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. And that's going to subject them to people concluding that they're giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, "Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time."

What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.
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Keep it up- the Independents are watching-

September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of IndependentsMajority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%USA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters' general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive.

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

I'll make this simple: The Washington Post is interested in doing nothing but bashing Palin.

It's one of the reasons I'm working to get a boycott of the paper. Specifically targetting subscriptions ala US Weekly.

There were not "a thousand" protesters outside a city library in Anchorage. I was there, it was only about a hundred. And most of them were liberals who wouldn't know sense if it was a nuclear bomb that was dropped on top of them.

Palin is good for America, and WILL be our next Vice President. And the Washington Post will have nothing to show for it except reduced subscribership.

You are disposable media, and America is done with you. May your paper die like the dog it is.

Posted by: Panchetta | September 14, 2008 6:46 AM | Report abuse

You mean 100% of Alaskan's don't love Gov. Palin? We know that 100% of Delaware residents do not like Biden and 100% of Illinois residents don't like Obama. Gov. Palin has an approval rating significantly higher than any other Governor or Senator. You can always count on the Post to try and diss any "non-progressive" -a label most Americans love.

Posted by: Docc | September 14, 2008 6:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see that 'saferich' may not be an Obama fan, but he is still able show some courtesy to those who disagree with him. Please, those who are Obama supporters should emulate his ability to respect differing positions and skepticism towards political change.

Saferich, while Obama may not have ever lived in small-town America, he knows it pretty well from his days in the Illinois State legislature and his campaigns around the state during his Senate run. People deride him as being a "Chicago politician" but they forget he was born and raised mostly in Honolulu with his maternal grandparents, who were both from rural Kansas. I think he has a natural understanding of Midwestern values from them. More importantly he has a much more thoughtful and progressive plan than McCain for renewing rural economies. Check out his website under "Issues" for detailed information.

Posted by: Mason | September 14, 2008 5:15 AM | Report abuse

OMG, you are such a chicken-f***ing coward. You can't even stick around from behind your computer when it counts.

No wonder you hate the Army. You can't be like us. Put in your Halo 3 and get your kill on there buddy. That's the closest you're ever going to be man.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:51 AM | Report abuse

Come on no-name coward, what's it going to be? You got some place closer to your town you'd rather meet. Or aren't you allowed to cross the street?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:47 AM | Report abuse

"Your sorry ass never served. You remind me of that right wing nut job chuck norris. "i did two tours in iraq, the commanders said we are winning. Two tour chuck ha ha. Question what is the maximum effective range of an M16a2?"

Oh, I was so waiting for that. Here's the deal f***head. Anytime someone evokes the "you didn't serve", I give then the opportunity to see it live. You pick a time and a date to come to the Market Square in Fayetteville near Ft. Bragg and I'll meet you there. We can talk, I'll let you see my uniform and you can show me what a f***ing brave pissant you are when you're not hiding behind your computer.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

Neo con wannabes wake up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

savage, hannity, limbaugh, people that never served. Cowards, and propagandist.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:39 AM | Report abuse

don't "know" but a handful...

okay, it is time to leave.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

yeah, sorry that was me. Forgot my handle again because I'm a stupid conservative in the military.

Nite!

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:36 AM | Report abuse

"Hawkdriver

sleep well knowing that more active duty troops donated to obama campaign. Real vets know McCain is bad news."

That's just another Obama lie. And a funny one. I don't but a handful of people in my brigadfe of over 3000 people who support your waffle king. But I take it you're leaving and no answers to my question about the abortion bill. I'm cheated.

And Anonymous, I feel like you're a little spoiled kid jumping up and down wanting some attention from an adult; so alright already. I see you and read all the biting commentary you posted. You're a wit for the ages and I'm totally p'wned. Now shut the f*** up and promise not to burn your little town down after you traitors lose!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

Propaganda is what you listen to hannity, savage, and
pu??y limbaugh.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:34 AM | Report abuse

Your sorry ass never served. You remind me of that right wing nut job chuck norris. "i did two tours in iraq, the commanders said we are winning. Two tour chuck ha ha. Question what is the maximum effective range of an M16a2?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:31 AM | Report abuse

"We have the best military in the world. Some of smartest people serve. I'm proud of that, but when you are the commander, and chief appointing a war czar is a easy way to make sure the buck don't stop at your desk."

Get that f***ing propaganda out of your repetuer. You don’t believe it so don’t say it. The vast majority of us in the military believe in the war, so quit being a hypocrite and put us in the same boat you put my commander in chief in. I would give my life for him. Very few of us wouldn’t. You can't say you support me and not him or the war.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Good night, and good luck

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 4:26 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver

sleep well knowing that more active duty troops donated to obama campaign. Real vets know McCain is bad news.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver
I ask you a question too. Coward? You must be talking about Rush limbaugh #1 chicken hawk.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:22 AM | Report abuse

McCain President of the surge

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,

I hear you loud and clear what you are saying. Its the kind of chess game our politicians are not good at and in the end, our military is not allowed to do what it is capable and willing to do to win. I do wonder though what does winning mean, because it seems to me that when we do win, the sunnis, the shia and the kurds afterwards will eventually settle the matter once and for all.

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

Stop kidding yourself this is an occupation. We won the war when bush said mission accomplished. All hail to the new President Barrack Hword Obama, Deal with it fool

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:18 AM | Report abuse

Brock, you're a coward and you can't even answer one question. You just keep bombarding the blog with more nonsense questions.

Bottom line, I love my ticket, John McCain and Sarah Palin. I didn't say my tickey was perfect, but you're scared to admit one single thing about, "the one" because he's in such a slide. Aren't you guys truthers. Wht can't you just say he's more worried about a female registered voter than some unlucky infant that has the gall to be born alive. If that's what you all believe, embrace it. I told you I believe in the war. I embrace it. I don't believe everyone that sits on their ass deserves the world handed to them just cause they can punch a chad. I embrace that responsible notion.

Whatever, I'm going to bed. You're all question, no answers and part of the traitor left. The only part of this country you love is the liberal half. Ten bucks says if you were anywhere near me or one of my friends and we were in uniform, you'd be wearing your black bandana and throwing rocks or spitting on us.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:15 AM | Report abuse

Bush is a lazy ass privileged fool

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver

We have the best military in the world. Some of smartest people serve. I'm proud of that, but when you are the commander, and chief appointing a war czar is a easy way to make sure the buck don't stop at your desk. The least you can do is be accountable, and responsible like that private clearing buildings in a war zone.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney company responsible for 11 shower deaths. Why John McCain Voted opposed the new G.I. bill?
Why do McCain have a poor voter rating from vet groups?

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

"What would you tell them if you were asked this question today?"

In the Lybian Fable it is told, that once an eagle when struck with an arrow said when it saw the fashion of it's shaft,
"With our own feathers are we now smitten!"

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Why did Barack Hussien Obama lie about the way he voted on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act when he appeared at Saddle Back Church?

Can you tell me?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:57 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,

Thank you for sharing your story and thank you for your service. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I remember here in the United States there was a lot of news coverage on the Iraq constitution vote. I really felt happy for them and I also knew, it could not have been done without the hard work the us military had accomplished. This is what I was thinking at the time. It is sad that the news people in Anaconda didn't do their job! It is also sad that politicians use their positions in a way that they know can be used by the enemy to fight our soldiers. You would think that we learned our lessons from the Vietnam War. Many people in America believe we can win the war in Iraq and Afganistan and a lot of people in America believe we cannot win the war in Iraq and Afganistan. What would you tell them if you were asked this question today?

Posted by: chillingaz | September 14, 2008 3:57 AM | Report abuse

Puppet bush looked in to putin eyes and concluded he could be trusted hawkdriver. You got to love it

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

v"Hawkdriver

Can you tell me why John McCain voted against leahy amendment
3292?"

No, I can't. Can you tell me why Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act?

Can you tell me why he voted against funding for the war that would have up=armored more ground vehicles?

I can tell you why he votes everything else almost exclusively "Present". Because he's too much of a typical politician to allow America to see how he goes on the record with his vote.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:39 AM


It's your turn Brock

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

"Go to Bobbarr2008
hawkdriver. That is none of our damn business what happens in georgia. We need to learn how to stay out of other countries bness"

Typical hypocrite liberal assbag. Then why the hell do you liberals traitors get so excited when they protest in England, in France or anywhere else against the US for defending itself.

Make a better point or shut the f*** up!

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver come on Dick Cheney was pulling the strings on puppet bush. He got over like a fat rat in a cheese factory. As for the dems that made money off the war shame on them too. They all should go to jail

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

What would ron paul do?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:47 AM | Report abuse

"Hawkdriver

Do you think Dick Cheney is right for making a fortune of the iraq war?"

He didn't, but Tom Dashels wife did.

Can you tell me why no one wants to point out that Nancy Pelosi owns about a quarter mill in T Boone Pickens Natural Gas interests. Why don't you answer some of these or my earlier questions. I answered yours...Tom

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Go to Bobbarr2008
hawkdriver. That is none of our damn business what happens in georgia. We need to learn how to stay out of other countries bness

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver

Hell yes

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:44 AM | Report abuse

"Yellow cake, WMD, Mushroom clouds being the smoking gun.
6 day 6 weeks I doubt 6 month rummy mark of the beast.
To all fear and war merchants mission accomplished."

Is that what you chant at your hateful "peace" rallies?

Why didn't anyone protest Russia invading Georgia? Are they your biys? Is that the team you're really pulling for?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver

Do you think Dick Cheney is right for making a fortune of the iraq war?

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse

We communist want to take over america.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

"Hawkdriver

Can you tell me why John McCain voted against leahy amendment
3292?"

No, I can't. Can you tell me why Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act?

Can you tell me why he voted against funding for the war that would have up=armored more ground vehicles?

I can tell you why he votes everything else almost exclusively "Present". Because he's too much of a typical politician to allow America to see how he goes on the record with his vote.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for a conservative to explain why John McCain voted against 3292

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Yellow cake, WMD, Mushroom clouds being the smoking gun.
6 day 6 weeks I doubt 6 month rummy mark of the beast.
To all fear and war merchants mission accomplished.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

"There is no place like America, but we have to be honest for the 8 years we have been a country divided."

We didn't divide it, you did. You looked at the nationalism that was born out of the need to heal from 9-11 and it raised your eyebrows and scared you becasue you were worried that it was a Republican administration in charge of it even though President Bush called both party to his counsel before invading Afghanistan. And half way throught that war, it was already beginning to show that some from your side of the aisle wouldn't support us no matter what they did to us. The only thing I ever fault my commander in chief for was underestimated not the enemy, but for not realizing how far liberals would go to stand in the way of a successful mission against those who would kill us.

I'll never feel any different. Obama is just part of the same petty disloyal team.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver

Can you tell me why John McCain voted against leahy amendment
3292?

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:28 AM | Report abuse

Put on your favorite song remember why you love America and vote

Obama/Biden 08 and forever

No to Failin and McSame

Posted by: Sarah | September 14, 2008 3:27 AM | Report abuse

"Please take inventory and fact check everything don't give a radio dude a free pass they can lie too."

Or MSNBC or CNN? Kieth Olbermann makes Rush Limbaugh look like a diplomat.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

And they'll say you're crazy that none of their behavior here has an effect on any of that and push it all back on President Bush. But ask them. If that's true, why do they even protest in the first place?

Liberals = Traitors

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:23 AM | Report abuse

I love this country. There is no place like America, but we have to be honest for the 8 years we have been a country divided. No country can survive turning a deaf ear to the truth. Please take inventory and fact check everything don't give a radio dude a free pass they can lie too.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:22 AM | Report abuse

(hawkdriver,

Can you please elaborate on what you said.

"To a very great degree I blame liberal America. You wanted us to do bad. You prayed for us to do bad."

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 2:54 AM )

Chill, it would take a whole night o tell you everything I've seen that makes me think that the Democratic Party and the MSM had it in for the war and thereby had it in for the military. I was in Iraq when the dems started their debates for the 04 election and no one can tell me the insurgency didn't pick up after that. They get the news. They see our TV. We have captured intell that showed they followed our politics throughout the war. When Dennis Kucinich stood on that stage during the 1st dem primary debate and said Pres. Bush cooked the war up in Texas and that it was illegal, me and my buddies just looked at each other in the DFAC in Balad Iraq and said OMG, does he want us to lose this thing? Then it was a none-stop who can outdo each other in deriding anything we did there. Abu Grahib and everything else was plastered on the front pages and any time we tried to push our gains or successes in battle it fell on deaf ears. We told them to kill us. We told them in those debates and in the press that half of America didn't think we even had the right to be there and that a smaller percentage of them thought we were criminals. I could go on for a whole blog.

But I'll share one story with you that is the watershed moment for me. I was flying combat camera crews over Kirkuk and Erbel while Iraqis voted on the national referendum for their constitution. They said in the press that there would be violence and we were supposed to let these guys record what might happen in the cities to help understand enemy TTPs. The whole day there was nothing any of our crews saw but Iraqis pointing their purple fingers at our aircraft to say “Look at me. I voted on our constitution. “ My crew chiefs ended up being very excited and we were all anxious to get back to Anaconda to see the news. There was almost nothing. Less the next day. We told the Iraqi people in those days we didn’t care about them. It was a milestone the press wouldn’t let the Bush Administration put in the plus column. Just one of many.

Liberal America wants us to lose to prove their point. So like I said, to a great extent, I blame them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

You can't have it both ways. Fraud, waste, and abuse was out of control, and leahy tried to stop it, but all the repubs voted no, and the amendment did not pass. That day America lost.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

Still waiting hawkdriver

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Downing street memos

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Attention all liberals ask your conservative friends why McCain voted against holding hearings on war profiteering, and fraud. Google leahy amendment 3292

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Answer coming Chill

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Fiscal conservatives tell me why John McCain voted against Leahy amendment 3292 war profiteering and fraud.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

McCain's BS Express is downright embarrassing, but this Palin freak is even worse. She won't answer any real questions unless she is suponeaed. Scary if she gets into office and claims executive privilege like Bush's cronies have done. Just how low can the government go in shaming America? Elect McPhoney and you'll eventually find out!

Posted by: McRipping My Hair Out | September 14, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Back to Palin

5 schools=1 cover up

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

Project for a new american century is real, and they found a dummy to sign on to it. Buuuuush, and insane McCAin

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:00 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what you knob jobs discuss. Post on the internet all you want or get out there breathe some fresh air and support you candidate which will hopefully be Obama if you are not racist or stuck in the stonge ages or think bush did a good job such as mcsame who is his fun loving buddy

Posted by: randy | September 14, 2008 3:00 AM | Report abuse

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Bush lack of interest caused 9/11. Not paying attention to daily briefings caused 9/11.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,

Can you please elaborate on what you said.

"To a very great degree I blame liberal America. You wanted us to do bad. You prayed for us to do bad."

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Experience keeps coming into discussion, but if you look at history, experience didn't help Nixon be a good President, he was quite the opposite. Lincoln is one of our most celebrated Presidents in American history and his experience was attributed to his life's experiences, not political experience.
As far as liberals being hateful (as mentioned earlier in this discussion), I was fortunate enough to have never had my car vandalized, that is until recently with the application of my Vote For Change - Obama sticker. Now I've had chewed-up gum smeared on my car a DIRTY baby wipe shoved into my windshield wiper while at Disneyland, then my next-door neighbors had a hole punched through their Obama Supporter poster on their lawn. Not to mention the family of Obama Supporters out here who just had anti-Obama sentiments spraypainted all over their car. Talk about hateful and cowards...

Posted by: SisterOfARedneck | September 14, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

I gotta go.

But to me...

Extremist liberals = traitors

I'd have been wary of hurting your feelings before by adding that I think the blood of US service men and women is on your hands, but I think you know that and take a certain pride in it. You had to destroy this nation to save it in your view. Those of us who were deployed to OIF and OEF were your collateral damage. Was it worth it? Were our losses reasonable for your achievements?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

"perhaps surging past a thousand"? a thousand what? blades of grass?

the hyperbole is so far abroad it can now just be referred to as LIES.

Posted by: carrhart | September 14, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

sun szu the art of war.

Conseratives tell me why do we owe Communist China close to a TRILLION dollars? Why did Bush stay a week for the Olympics. borrower is servant to the lender. Starting wars against countries that did not pose a threat, draining the treasury to line the pockets of war merchants. Black water mercenaries without limits. Weak up people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

"All of our good paying jobs are leaving the country"

Well, 12 million of your bestest buddies from central and south america are doing a bunch of those jobs. Here in the US. Hmmmm

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

But like I said, I think most of the posting on this page is sock-puppeting by Tom anyway.

All I know is in between Iraq and Afghanistan my unit lost 14 folks. To a very great degree I blame liberal America. You wanted us to do bad. You prayed for us to do bad. Guys you revere like Bill Maher said we weren't even as brave as the 9-11 terrorists. Groups like Code Pink who wouldn't say a word about Russia invading Georgia (maybe they were thinking the red-state and not the country) protest our every move and donate money to the tune of 600,000 to the insurgents in Iraq while our Marines are fighting in Fallujah. Yeah, my 5-502 friend, I'll take Rush and Hannity any day of the week. They have a right to support us and they have a right to think the war is right and just. They have a right to say it on their programs.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

All of our good paying jobs are leaving the country, forclosures at an all time high, but multi millionaires get on the radio, and teach idiots how to repeat every catch phrase. Some people need to get a clue. Im a liberal, and proud of it. For all you so called conservatives tell me one thing you have to be proud of with this administration? Tuff talk, freedom fries, and oh ya Mission accomplished.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

You men and women who have served in the military or are currently serving in the military, I thank you for your service.

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

You served, good for you. So, you agree that only people speaking against the war then have a right be heard if they haven't served?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Come on now mental giant benjamin9. You're actually trying to assert that approval ratings are all revealing. That because Palin has a high approval rating she is Infallible? Does that apply to George W Bush. He was at 90% after 9/11 in 01'.

Does that mean that southerners were right about segregation because a majority of them approved of it during the civil rights battles of the 50's and 60's? Does that mean MLK was wrong because he did not agree with the majority opinion?

What about Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini? They all had fairly high approval ratings in their countries.

Posted by: Benjamin9 is a mental giant | September 14, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Yes I said chicken hawks mr. anon
I served too

5-502nd

3rd-75th ranger bn

I say to you stop listening to punks like hannity, savage, limbaugh, and all the rest of the wimps that did not serve. It's easy to sit behind a mic, and talk tuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Mrc, sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy of you liberals part huh? Were you happy that it did take so long so that Dennis Kusinich could be right. Yeah, your guy Obama stole that line of reasoning from him if he really said it at all. What did he say about the surge? Something along the lines of no number of increased US forces will have an effect on the insurgency. Or are you one of those truther who say the surge didn't work. Because oh by the way, Obama says it did work now. His party games with words and our lives shows his utter contempt for the military he wants to lead.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Youth of America United against the psychos that ran this country into the ground.

Bush McCain Palin they're all the same

Bush McCain Palin they're all the same

Vote Obama or secure health care for your mama

Vote Obama or secure health care for your mama

Posted by: Not old | September 14, 2008 2:27 AM | Report abuse

Oh its on like nothin your geriatric but* has seen and by the way were younger, smarter and ready to take over whatever menial position your McCain lookin but* may occupy

Posted by: Not old | September 14, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Wow. The mental giants who post here are just so enlightening. An 80% approval rating for Palin in Alaska says it all. What ever lib group aligned for BO that worked to assemble such a silly little protest must have had to work hard to assemble these dolts.

Posted by: Benjamin9 | September 14, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

What is hilarious about what hawkdriver wrote is the fact that he or she is angry that a democratic country was split over a major national issue. "The war was over until you f***ing liberals showed our enemies that we were politically split."
People in a republic form of democracy in the modern world had different opinions>
Oh my God!
I don't know about you numb nuts, but I would rather live in that type of country than say Soviet Russia or Castro's Cuba or Hitler's Germany. Our enemies don't allow difference at all. So it seems rather interesting that this conservative HAWKDRIVER (what the hell kind of name is that) would actually agree with our enemy. Not to mention the fact that if were not fighting over there to protect America and Americans and our precious right to freedom of thought, then what the heck are doing it for.
Oh yeah,
fear
oil
money
power
control.

Posted by: Barry Goldwater | September 14, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Votevets.org

bravenewfilms.org

mediamatters.org

factcheck.org

War is a racket General Smedley Butler two time medal of honor earned

The confessions of an economic hit man John Perkins

Screwed by Thom hartman

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Meant "your"

And yeah anonymous was me hawkdriver again.

One more thing. If BHO does get elected he won't be my president. And from day one, I don't if he personally sures cancer, he still won't be my president. And all that disloyal opposition that never stopped at our shore, expect it right bad at you. If you liberals were willing to destroy this nation for your own political gains, well us too.

Game on.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver:

That's funny. It seems to me Barack Obama told us all exactly what was going to happen in 2002. While Bush, Cheney, McCain and Rumsfeld were telling us how easy it was going to be, Barack Obama said:

"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda."

Posted by: Marc | September 14, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

And another thing. You're pissy little ChickenHawk rants?

We in the military know not everyone can serve or even needs to. Your arguement that only those who are willing to go to war should be allowed to be in favor of the war is a liberal myth. By that you unfairly assert that if you haven't served in war that you should only be allowed to voice an opinion against the it. How about you let us decide. I say only those who support us should get an opinion. The rest of you shouldn't say a damn thing. You libetrals killed a lot of good Americans with your petty power struggle!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse


An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Whatever no one under the age of 24 is voting for McCain except facist mf's and yeah on election day we are all going out to vote not matter what. Say what you want about out man Obama, he is way cooler than McCain and that nazi b

Posted by: Not old | September 14, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver

If john McBush put country first why did he vote against leahy amendment 3292 to stop war profiteering, and reconstruction fraud. We still can't find that 9 billion dollars. Don't be a dummy get the facts.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

its sad they arent reporting the anti-racist election march were over 2000 mixed black white and latino's joined together to say they would be voting for mccain because they wont allow race to play a positive roll in an election.

you would think that would get more press than 17% of alaska joining together to protest while the rest already voted her positive marks.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin thinks the Bush doctrine is another term for her gynecologist!

Female Bush = Palin (Something smells fishy)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver thats the same thing the war merchants said about vietnam.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Silly wannabe neo-cons stop watching fox and look at what this administration has done to this country. Look at how much Chaney
made. If you don't care about the facts then we deserve what we get. War mongers like John McCain will only give you more of the same. He's 72 years old and don't care about the future. He is a trigger happy dude still living in that pow camp

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

The war was over until you f***ing liberals showed our enemies that we were politically split and that they had at least a chance to win if they stayed in the papers. Hey, you don't even need a big offensive, just keep killing a few a day with your IEDs and we'll keep you in our papers. We'll only report the bad things our soldiers do and the big milestones of the casualties. We'll humanize the bad guys and refuse to believe own of commanders.

You smug little bastards. You think your little war jingles are cute?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

George Bush is my hero. He's a uniter, not a divider.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

The sadness of being a republican.
by jo nathan dudley

So after 7 years of missed opportunities, bungled hurricanes and out right serial lying the republican convention looked like it might just be a wash. John McCain, once a dignified war hero who ultimately had to cozy up to Bush to get back into the Presidential game, was looking old and stale. The same Bush who skipped out of service in Vietnam and snorted coke while flying (when it suited him) jets in the dangerous skies of Texas and Alabama.]

McCain had no hope of being relevant this election other than possibly hammering BO with the experience issue and that only was taking him so far.
But alas, he chose Sarah Palin to be his running mate. The Alaskan savior who leaned on none other than God to get elected governor and to get another oil pipeline.
McCain then switched gears and promised country first but acted like POLITICS first all the while calling Obama elitist. I guess Obama can not hide from his background and his elitist single mother and super elitist Grandparents who raised him in spite of his father. Elitist always buck tradition in favor of liberal survival techniques.

McCain/Palin stood for reform but that was just lipstick on a porky pig. Even though McCain spent his career trying to kill the pork, he still can't convince anybody other than his choir that Palin isn't the queen of pork. Not even lipstick can cover up that lie.
They said she was a reformer with executive experience. They were right. She had reformed her town's budget so much that when she left office the town was in debt and spent the surplus budget the town's previous administration had accrued. Maybe I am missing the underlying point of the McCain Campaign, with all that executive experience w/ pork and overspending, they knew she would be a natural in Washington. However, now I see why McPalin can now go after the change mantra because as soon as she joined the campaign they changed their approach to straight-up-all-out lying as opposed to small lies with bits of truth.

Then after her vast experience was disproved the republicans still kept drinking the koolaid and they spun wildly out of control into McCain/Palin madness. Each trying to out do another in making up excuses in defense of Wasilla's favorite gal. For so long, McCain had bashed Obama's lack of experience and then he turns around and picks someone who was Mayor of a city of 6,000 people and Governor of one of the least populous states. A politician whose foreign policy experience is limited to lying about trips to Iraq and mostly based on her ability to see Russia from an island of the coast of her snow capped dominion.
WAY TO GO GUYS!

Posted by: jo nathan dudley | September 14, 2008 2:05 AM | Report abuse

"The McCain campaign slogan should be: "At home, let's drill, drill, drill. Abroad, let's kill, kill, kill."

Obamas could be..

From the womb lets pull, pull, pull...
Cause overpopulation is bull, bull, bull...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:00 AM | Report abuse

The oil revenue would pay for the war. Rush Limbaugh

Mission accomplished? George Bush, and John McCain said in 03

Are we still in a war, or an occupation?

Did we go to war for the oil companies?

The war would take 6 days 6 weeks I don't think 6 months Rummy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

"education"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

"I’m frighten by the thought that protestors would have to feared retribution from the governor."

And I'm very afraid that if BHO gets elected, all of us wrong thinkers will get sent to re-eduacation camps.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign slogan should be: "At home, let's drill, drill, drill. Abroad, let's kill, kill, kill."

His mantra should be "Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts!"

Posted by: labman57 | September 14, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Real Clear Politics is a good web-site, yet to have one story debunked.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, didn't mean to sock-puppet like some other folks here, anonymous was me.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

I’m frighten by the thought that protestors would have to feared retribution from the governor.

Posted by: Lydia, Durham | September 14, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Tom,

The facts on that page are accurate. You might want to checkout u-tube for debates with obama, what he would do for Chicago. Then checkout what he did/didn't do for his district. Ever notice how Obama does not speak of his accomplishments in Chicago? Why the media will not seek out people who lived in his district?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Is there anything the McCain campaign has said about Palin not turned out to be a lie or a gross overstatement? I know the McCain campaign has said this is not a election about issues but for some of us the truth matters. We don't need a clueless & petty pol a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
And Washington Post..it would be nice if you guys would just call a lie a lie and not try to be so polite. Republican or Democratic, everyone would like information honestly presented. Is the mainstream media up to the task?

Posted by: NOLA Nathan | September 14, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

McCain 2000 would be ashamed of McCain 2008. He had to lick a lot of boots to get this far. He had to pawn his integrity to retain the services of the people who screwed him in 2000. He would have been better than bush but today he is in bed with all the neo cons, and war merchants, and Georgians not the state.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

"Hawk you don't care about the unborn. You still think iraq was a good idea. Bush no wmd under the table ha ha."

God, get some new talking points. I am so weary of repeating this. Clinton, AlGore and every other freaking Dem are on record saying that SH had them. He violated every UN sanction and resolution. He was attacking our jets in Northern and Southern Watch.

Don't ever presume you little man that because I enjoy seeing that enemies of this nation being sent to hell, that I don't have a sincere love for these chilren we kill at the rate of about 1.2 million per year. Iraq was a great idea. (Would have been nice if the dems stayed on for the whole ride, but we only ever expect them to get us involved in a conflict and then abandon us). But, we kind of figured.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

That american thinker article doesn't help me at all, except to dismiss it as slander.
We need to get away from that, regardless of which candidate we're voting for, or who the slander is directed against. Websites that post stuff like that have an agenda. And it isn't to help us learn more about our leaders.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Rush limbaugh, Sean hannity, Bortz, Savage, Bush, Chaney=Chickenhawks.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Bush is a war criminal, John is
crazy enough to try and one up bush.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Tom,

lolol,...I'm sure you'll be fine. One day at a time will do ya.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Hawk you don't care about the unborn. You still think iraq was a good idea. Bush no wmd under the table ha ha.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

McCain Voted against Leahy 3292 war profiteering, He opposed Jim webb new G.I. bill. He is an old man who lost his way.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

"McCain = Bush"

As long as he dosen't = Obama, then he doesn't = an almost criminal disregard for infant human life. Thanks for the news flash and 'm so relieved

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

T.H.

I'm sorry for the typos and don't want you to get confused.

I think you should SET up an appointment at MY office, there are new medications that can help you, along with therapy.
Send me your email and I'll have my staff contact you.


Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Some more research for you.

September 12, 2008
Obama and South Chicago Slum Developers

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obama_and_south_chicago_slum_d.html

I'm not posting for anyone to base ANY vote,..but for people to research and think for themselves. Don't take my word, don't take anyone's word until you research for yourself. Any site that's posted,check the accuracy of that site. I double check the 4 that I use,as I double check anything I find interesting. (daily)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

T.H.:

"I find it interesting the connection you make from information to hate, more-so since no personal attacks have taken place. Clearly you can see where my information is political whereas the post from the left are (some) personal and with out facts(pertaining to Gov Palin or McCain). So pardon me if I come across to harsh but, your analysis is opinion. hence,."Psychologist"
One who post information backed by facts will not always be emotionally connected, whereas one who post hate filled attacks will have a harder time distancing themselves from the that emotion. Yes, psychology 101 is a must for ever College graduate."

I think you should up an appointment at office, there are new medications that can help you, along with therapy.
Send me your email and I'll have my staff contact you.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

McCain = Bush

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

That project vote smart website is something everyone of us should take a look at.
thanks again

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

They probably bussed up a bunch of quack lib marxist protesters who don't work and have nothing else to do but be an all-around pain in the ass. Or they flew them up, along with those dozens of lawyers/dirt-diggers. Gimme a break."

And if I were in charge of it, you know what else I'd do. I'd make sure the WaPo had all the info for a story and then organize a "bonified freaking grass roots internet movement" right here on this very blog. To include a Mole/Moderator to keep the ball rolling.

JNason, you couldn't be more right. This whole story and this entire blog covering complete with every flavor of "I'm so upset that McCain would pick her so now I've changed my vote to Obama" idiots is a complete sham.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

tom,

You are welcome. I hope that everyone else will do the same, because we not only owe it to ourselves, but we owe it to every American citizen who has lived, is living and will be living in the United States of America in the future.

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Tom,

I find it interesting the connection you make from information to hate, more-so since no personal attacks have taken place. Clearly you can see where my information is political whereas the post from the left are (some) personal and with out facts(pertaining to Gov Palin or McCain). So pardon me if I come across to harsh but, your analysis is opinion. hence,."Psychologist"
One who post information backed by facts will not always be emotionally connected, whereas one who post hate filled attacks will have a harder time distancing themselves from the that emotion. Yes, psychology 101 is a must for ever College graduate.

Posted by: T.H | September 14, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,

I am on the team pal, trust me.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,

I'm going to spend the rest of the weekend going over them, then I'll post my conclusions tomorrow night somewhere on the washington post.
Don't miss it.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

They probably bussed up a bunch of quack lib marxist protesters who don't work and have nothing else to do but be an all-around pain in the ass. Or they flew them up, along with those dozens of lawyers/dirt-diggers. Gimme a break.

Posted by: JNason | September 14, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Tom,

I'm sad, I thought I already had you down for one of the team. Are you unsure again?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous,
Don't get mad at my buddy. He's trying to help me make my mind up.
And what's your real name, hmmm?

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Jesus was a carpenter and a Savior. Hitler was a community organizer. FDR was a governor.

Posted by: LisaP | September 14, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Tom,

You're sure getting a collection of sites to look at. What will you do with all that info?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

What a joke. a couple hundred people. She has an 80% approval rating in AK. And big numbers all over the states.

She is now more popular in the polls then Obama and McCain/Palin are surging ahead in every poll. Not only does it now look like they will win but the congress is up for grabs too. What a great choice.

Independents, women and undecideds are all choosing McCain/Palin.

The Obama campaign is in deep trouble. Less then 2 months left and it doesn't look good for them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Chillingaz,

Thanks for those links, I will be checking them out(along with the many conservative sites provided by our republican friends), and I'm sure I'll make the right decision come November. As you can tell, I'm comcpletely undecided(clueless actually) and I need as much media input as possible to help me out with this election.

Thanks My Friend

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

http://www.nrlc.org/obamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Here's some good reading from the good Senators sorted past and recent past.

He lied about why he didn't support the born Alive Infant Protection Act. Hell, I don't even care "why" he didn't support it. That he would support it at all is proof enough that the left will not be happy until they have complete say on when a baby may be killed. Is a damn shame when the greatest country in then world can't protect a fellow human beings basic right to life because of an inch of skin separating them from the rest of the world.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

"tom,

take a look at these pages."


Ok,..

MEET obama,..

Reveal McCain?

nope,..no bias at all,..lolol

All you have to do for researching obamais use his own words,...NOT SOMEONE elses,..but HIS WORDS!

Obama's "plan" changes every week. Is he left? Middle?..he bounces with the polls.

I have to wonder why would ANYONE vote for someone who gets approval from terrorist or people who hate America? That doesn't tell you something?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

T.H.,

Thanks for your reply.
I'll be honest with you though, I was a Psychologist with US Navy, and I can still sense some hostility in your posts. Please if you do harbor hatred for Obama, don't let it eat away at you. Or you may get psychotic and do something violent.

Take care of yourself.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

anotherobamalie,
i jus went to that website you posted. No offence intended, and I mean that, but why would you believe something you read there?
To me (and again I'm not trying to question your state of mind), that website is a where wierdos would hang out.
Your better than that man, check out Bill O'Reilly's website. Now that's an place where you can get the real answers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

You can easily check obama's own words. I've checked most of the top 100-lies out, they check out. I HAVE NOT checked them all but enough to know. I've also checked Obama's page and found many inaccurate statement. I report them,they disappear and with in a few days are back.
If you spend a day reading some long pdf's on line you'll find a lot of information.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

"Bagram" Afghanistan

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

"just kiddin hawk. remember, we're all gonna be friends again the day after the election. whoever wins."

We "all" won't be friends after it's over Tom. I've been fighting in OEF and OIF for 5 years with 36 months in theater. I've lost 14 friends and people that I know that I've served with. I've stood in "Fallen Hero" formations along Disney Drive in Balad Afghanistan and watched some of those friends and a lot of other fallen Americans solders driven by in open vehicles with flags on their metal coffins on their way to jet ride home.

I won't be friends with Obama who voted against funding for equipment that would have put more amor on HMVS. Or because he refused to admit the surge worked because he was originally against it. He only said it was a great success because his handlers told him to. He didn't visit wounded troops because they wouldn't let him take a pictuer of it.

I won't be friends with John Murtha who said the Marines were guilty in Haditha before he even knew what the God-Damn story was.

I won't be friends with a party that politicized a war I was fighting in a secreatly hoped every month the KIA and wounded figures would be high becasue they thought it would make the commander in chief look bad.

No tom, we all aren't going to be friends after this. The extreme liberals on the left have blood on their hand just as much as the guys who pulled the triggers on us.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Tom,..

He lied to you and the rest of the American people.

It also doesn't help that I have friends in Chicago,the South District to be exact. I know what obama DIDN'T do. I don't hate him, I dislike the media more then. The media has contributed to the foolishness of this campaign. If they would have reported the FACTS we would not be discussing Obama or McCain.

Posted by: T.H | September 14, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Good One,

I just went to that website, and, umm, ya know, it seems like an ultraconservative website. Can you please provide one that is unbiased for me?
I'm trying to find the facts, and only the facts, so that I can make the right choice.

Thanks Man!

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Obama's 50 State Strategy?

Sat. Sept 13th

Nevada Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3
National Gallup Tracking McCain 47, Obama 45 McCain +2
National Rasmussen Tracking McCain 48, Obama 45 McCain +3
National Hotline/FD Tracking McCain 45, Obama 44 McCain +1
National Newsweek McCain 46, Obama 46 Tie
South Dakota Rasmussen McCain 54, Obama 37 McCain +17
New Jersey Marist Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3
Friday, September 12
Race Poll Results Spread
Missouri Rasmussen McCain 51, Obama 46 McCain +5
Oklahoma Rasmussen McCain 63, Obama 32 McCain +31
Washington Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2
Oregon Hoffman Research (R) Obama 46, McCain 39 Obama +7
Washington Elway Poll* Obama 46, McCain 38 Obama +8
National Associated Press/GfK McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4
Ohio Univ. of Cinci McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4
National Associated Press/GfK McCain 48, Obama 44, Nader 1, Barr 1 McCain +4
Thursday, September 11
Race Poll Results Spread
Ohio InAdv/PollPosition McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1
Florida InAdv/PollPosition McCain 50, Obama 42 McCain +8
Michigan InAdv/PollPosition Obama 44, McCain 45 McCain +1

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Thank Goodness for camera's!

The obama camp tried to lie out of this one to.

Mystery Solved

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/28/mystery-solved/


with some many lies from the mouth of obama, do his followers not remember those 2 famous words from obamas mouth?

WORDS MATTER!

Posted by: anotherobamalie | September 14, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

tom,

Lots Of Laughing...

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

T.H.,

Boy, you really hate that guy Obama don't you? What did he ever do to you?

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Good One | September 14, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

tom,

LOL

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

If you are voting for Obaman and Biden, please go to this link and read it.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=its_his_party_08

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama Hid $832,598 Payment To ACORN

http://sweetness-light. com/archive/obama-hid-800k-payment-to-acorn

Lets hope he keeps better track of Americans tax dollars!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Chillingaz :

you're stealin my routine here buddy!

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes We Can. Sir, Ma'am,

Is there any chance you can "Yes We Can" a slightly different cut and paste?

My God I know "your" people are that stupid but it makes it very insulting to us conservatives here.

Folks, that lady has been changing her mind about voting for McCain all...freaking...night...

You Obama operatives, is it money or power that motivates you or do you reallly think the end justifies the means? You scream truth and change and you demonstrate lies and the same old hat that's been cming out of your party since I was one.

MAKE A NEW CUT AND PASTE!!!

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

just kiddin hawk. remember, we're all gonna be friends again the day after the election. whoever wins.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Community Organizers??..lol

I hope people REALLY research that area of obama's past,..that in it's self is enough to NOT vote for him.

BTW,..are you obama folks aware that he couldn't qualify as an F.B.I agent?

Do some research on that issue and you'll find out why.

And obama wants people to look at his work?

"Why Obama's "Community Organizer" Days Are a Joke"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/why_obamas_community_organizer.html

or just try your own research on "ACORN".

Better yet visit Chicago, see for yourself what obama did/didn't do.

Posted by: T.H | September 14, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

I graduated in 1958, the same year John McCain did.
Boy was he a scmuck.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Dear Factshurt,

Can you please provide the links to your list, so we can verify what you are posting.

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 14, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

I grew up in a small town in the 1950's and I don't know that we cornered the market on values. Today I read that at Tony Perkins Family Values Forum (Newt, Mitt and Lou Dobbs spoke) two small town guys from Tennessee were selling boxes of Obama Waffles with the Illinois Senator dressed up as Aunt Jemima. How would one equate this despicable action with family values? What type of Chrisianity are these folks preaching. That's not my Jesus. And those are't my values.

Posted by: Linda | September 14, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the heads-up on version 8. I'll down-load it tonight.

BTW, what year did you go to the academy?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Does Biden Have A Catholic Problem?
Time Magazine
9/13/08

"...Within days, Cardinal Justin Rigali, who heads the USCCB committee on pro-life activities, and Bishop William Lori, who chairs the committee on doctrine, drafted a statement outlining Biden's theological errors that was released on behalf of the entire bishops conference — a rebuke not even Kerry received in 2004."

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

People in Alaska keep it going. Give this issue more press. The rest of the sane United States are so so proud of you.

I as a formerly Hillary supporter briefly considered voting for McCain until I saw this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o

Along with the fact that I don't agree with her on anything. This woman is a political ploy who bs's her was through the Bush Doctrine.

Then I thought about WHAT WOULD HILLARY DO.

MMM WHAT WOULD HILLARY DO?????????


SHE WOULDN'T VOTE FOR MCCAIN THAT IS FOR SURE.

Barak you have my vote, just put her in whatever Cabinet position she wants and I think at this point you're running scared so you will.

NO NO NO to Cheney in a dress. This woman is an insult to Hillary and for all you woman who think that voting McCain/Palin will get her elected in 12 yeah you'd better think again. Having this woman as the VP will only damage Hillary in 2012.

http://biden.senate.gov/issues/issue/?id=975b0cf4-ce25-42cc-b63d-072fb81e8618

KEEP PROTECTING WOMEN BIDEN U HAVE MY VOTE ALL THE WAY!!!!!

Keep protesting we'll start protesting here.


Hillary supporters for women's rights instead of againt them.


I am not going to be part of taking a big step backwards, plus Palin makes RAPE VICTIMS PAY FOR THEIR OWN TEST KITS WHILE BIDEN HAS PASSED VERY IMPORTANT LEGISTLATION PROTECTING WOMEN FROM VIOLENCE. Palin in my view did the opposite.

Being for women's rights has nothing to do with being a woman.


Biden/Obama you have my vote.

Share this with your friends. We're not stupid McCain we're women.

STOP ALL VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

2nd post yes I know, but as a woman who works with abusive men and abused women. THIS ISSUE IS SO SO IMPORTANT TO ME. Okay now I am leaving.

Posted by: YES WE CAN | September 14, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Oh tom, come on, if you can manage Linux code you can google "Congressional Approval Ratings". And when you find them, remember the NancyP is the SOTH!!!

Dude, if you're on the team we're going to need you to step it out a little faster.

:-)

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse


Congressional Performance
Congressional Approval Ratings Tie Record Low
Wednesday, August 27, 2008

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance/congressional_performance

Posted by: T.H | September 14, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

"Hockey Mama for Obama!" "Voted For Her Once: Never Again!" "Sarah Palin: So Far Right She's Wrong!" "Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time."
"Candidate To Nowhere!"

That's the spirit! Give Palin a trip to Walt Disney World,where she can meet Goofy, and wish upon a star. Because I'm DEFINITELY not sending her or McCain to the White house. Wait a Minute! Didn't the Republicans have a Celebrity in the White House? His initials are RWR. A B-Movie actor during World War II; Did not pass the physical because he was underweight; President of the Screen Actors Guild; Governor of California. You know who!

From the mouths of Alaskans: Community Organizers are the Real Patriots

Posted by: jrev7620042000 | September 14, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Hawkdriver,
I think your gonna like Ububtu, just go for the latest version-8. It sets up smoothly, recognized all my peripherals and hardware, including graphics and soundrivers. Runs fast, has open office and make sure you check out the compiz fusion. And the forums are great if you need help.
good luck with it.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

I simply pointed at the hypocrisy of your statement, which you still have yet to work your way out of.

I don't need links to right wing blogs, my family is a whole bunch of right wingers. I read Christian Science Monitor or something the rather while drinking coffee today. My mother leaves the radio on Rush Limbaugh and I hear it whenever I stop over for lunch hour.


I have watched homeless children walking down the street with snot all over their faces addicted to glue begging to shine someone's shoes, I have talked grandmother who let generations of abuse continue because they thought their was no one to help them, I have walked in to pueblos alone with no one by my side informing women of their human rights. I have helped refugees to read and learn english. I have tried to make this world a better place. I have ignored lucrative jobs offers due to my education because life is service and if you cannot answer my aforementioned statement and only be hateful this former independent voter who is now a democrat will surely be there to vote for Obama election day, because you can make all the nasty comments you want but all these people I have assisted as a "community organizer" in someway are my sisters and brothers and I don't care what you say, because I believe it to be true.

VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08

Posted by: Bella | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

FactChecking Obama
August 29, 2008
He stuck to the facts, except when he stretched them.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html

Posted by: Truth Hurts | September 14, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

paladin,

Can you post the link to Nancy Pelosi's approval rating?
I hold these polls in high regard, and want to check this out. If it's true, we do need to keep these liberals out of Washington.
Thanx

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

tom,

All sarc aside, I'm switching everything I have to Ubuntu also. I tried it before and couldn't get the drivers for my swoopy Epson 3 in 1 to work.

But now I got it down and I'm off of anything MS or NBC.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

jann,

I'd like to ask if you can tell me where in the Bible it states Lucifer was a community organizer?
Thanks

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

WaPo is pathetic, so is the New York Times.
Every day you come up with attack stories that have NO real facts. Misleading headlines. Even your Public Editors throw up their hands. But you can't stop yourselves because you are RABID. Oh, did you note that Gov. Palin has an 80% approval rate. Nancy Pelosi is at 9% last time I checked.

Posted by: paladin | September 14, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

SomeGuy,

I didn't post any IP addresses!
And I'm not an idiot, I graduated from the US Naval Academy. Although I was 6th from the bottom.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Troy, that's amazing! There's stuff there that I didn't even know. How can these liberals support a man like that.

Is it that they just so love the idea that he hangs with people who have bombed law-enforcement officers and our military installations? Bill Ayers

Is it that they also agree with him that a baby that should survive an abortion should be left to die? He voted no to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA)and I guess they must agree. Those damned inconvient little human beings!!!

Is it because they too think Venezuala is tiny and couldn't hurt a fly?

I'm starting to see the truth of his greatness. Maybe I've seen the light too.

Yes Empty Suit/Plugs08

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Jesus was not a community organizer. But Lucifer was.

Posted by: jann | September 14, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,

It feels good to be part of the team.
Thanks

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Facts hurt! | September 14, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

How many of these "protestors" were paid and/or flown in by Soros's Moron.Org?

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 14, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

TOM...who has posted several comments in this thread is either an idiot or a liar. The IP Addresses he has listed are in no way related to the IP address for sarahpalingayrights.com is actually 208.73.210.32. It has ben since it has been registered Sept. 2, 2008. Now if someone had messed with the DNS, more things are possible. But from a technical perspective, Tom's argument and apparently feeble explanation is lacking.

Posted by: SomeGuy | September 14, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

jess,

what does P.U.M.A!! stand for?
it sounds like an interesting slogan, and I want to check it out and maybe get involved.

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

You're welcome tom, glad to help!!!

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Obama's Top 100 verified undisputed factual list of Lies!
Posted 5 weeks 2 days ago by Pablo

I have updated from my last list to 100. It seems that Mr. Obama just can not stop telling lies with each passing breath. Each new day comes with a host of new lies. Some old some new. Its seems that Mr. Obama is still willing to tell several lies knowing full well that they are lies and that he has been caught on them. Its the old idea that if you tell the lie often enough the people will believe the lies as truth. Some of the older lies have new twists which does not change the core lie which I have posted.

As I have done with the previous list, I have spent long hours of verification where I can prove without a doubt that Obama told the lie. In addition to these lies, I have found a total of 8 felonies that should be charged against Mr. Obama. But it seems that the US attorney general is unwilling, the FBI is unwilling along with any other law enforcement with any authority over the issues are unwilling to go investigate or arrest Mr. I am a criminal Obama. They are all afraid that if they investigate or charge Mr. Obama it will be considered as Racism and will cause civil strife.

On the other hand what would be worse, having allowed an a criminal to be elected to the highest office in the land knowing full well that he should not even be allowed in the race based on the charges or failing to do their sworn duty to the people of the United States by aiding a criminal to do more crimes against the people? Just as any prisoner can not vote, no prisoner can be allowed to run for office. Mr. Obama should be in jail!

But none the less, here is the List of Obama top 100. Taken from a generalized list of 1234 lies that I have accumulated and sorted through.

1.Selma got me born. Lie. Selma did not happen until 1965. You Mr. Obama was born in 1961.

2. Mother and Father met at the civil rights march in Selma. Lie. You were born in 1961 thus your parents had to have met in 1960 some 5 years before the Selma march and even before the civil rights movement of Dr. Martin Luther King!

3. My father was a goat herder. Lie. Your father was a rich prince whose first job was at age 16 for the Kenyan Government! Your African Grandmother Obama has stated this many times that your father was privileged and spoiled!

4. My Father was a proud freedom Fighter. Liar Liar liar! Your father fled Kenya when the freedom fighters came. Your father went to America to avoid the freedom fighters. After all, your father was part of the government not part of the opposition!

5. My family has strong ties to African Freedom movement! Liar Liar Liar. Your family was part of the corrupt Kenyan Government. Even now your family are plotting against the new Kenyan government and doing acts of terrorism and genocide against those who do not support your Brother!

6. My grandmother has always been a christian. Liar liar Liar! Your grandmother who is 85 does the salat prayers every 5am and is a muslim. Has said in several interviews that she is most devout in the Islamic faith. Your white grandparents are dead! The woman who raised you for your white grandfather is not a christian either but an atheist!

7. My Name is African Swahili. Liar Liar Liar! Your name is Arabic! All three of your names are Arabic! And Barack means Blessed one in Arabic which you confirmed in your book Dreams of My father that your name means Blessed one! Thus it can not be Swahili!

8. My School in Indonesia was Christian. Liar Liar Liar. You went to a muslim school! Even in the catholic school, you were registered as a devout muslim with special islamic required lessons beyond that of a general registered muslim!

9. I was fluent and can speak Indonesian! Liar Liar Liar! All your friends and past teachers all say that you can not! When addressed on the campaign trail by an Indonesian reported, you did not understand her using Indonesian to you and asked her to speak in English! You can speak phrases but you are not fluent.

10. Because I lived in Indonesia, I have more foreign policy experience than any other person or candidate. What a liar! There are literally thousands to millions of people more qualified than you Mr. Obama. There were several other candidates who were more qualified and still is more qualified than you! My new friend Paul Madison for example, speaks Spanish, Russian and Comane in addition to English. He speaks well enough German, French and Italian to get by. He has lived in Western Europe, Russia, Ukraine and spent time in the middle east! Has spent time in Mexico and Brazil as well. So you are not qualified because you lived as a child 2 years in Indonesia and could not speak the language and visited Africa three times to see your Islamic Muslim family who are terrorists! Not only that Mr. Obama, but you admitted that McCain has more experience than you!

11. I am stronger on Foreign Affairs than others. Liar. Even you admitted in a debate with Hillary that McCain has more experience and is stronger on this issue! Perhaps Mr. Obama you should have the tape played again for you to refresh your memory!

12. I blame my early drug use on ethnic confusion!. Liar Liar Liar. You never once said that in your books. All your teen friends remember you as Barry and you were very happy to be Barry to the people around you! You never once ever said you had a problem being half Arab half white! All your family and friends say you were well adjusted! In fact, in your book Dreams of my father, you were upset with your half brother who lives here in America as not being properly adjusted to being African in your Black Liberation rant! Only thing anyone from your past says that bothered you was the fact that your father abandoned you.

13. An Ebony article moved me to run for office. Liar Liar Liar. Ebony can not find the article you stated! They say it does not exist!

14. A Life magazine article changed my outlook on life! Liar Liar Liar! Life can not find the article. In fact, Life says that it would be impossible not to find such and article by any magazine if it really existed because of its shocking nature! Life Magazine calls you a liar as well!

15. I will not run on a national ticket for the 08 presidency. Liar Liar Liar. In the interview with Tim Russet on Jan 22, 2006 on Meet the Press, Quote: Russert: "When we talked back in November of '04 after your election, I said, 'There's been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?'" Obama: "I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed." Russert: "So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?" Obama: "I will not."

16. Present votes are common in Illinois. Liar Liar Big fat Liar! Present votes are not common and Mr. Obama your 130 votes was the most! The next person with the most present votes had 8. Also Mr. Obama you did not vote on little more than 80% of the bills being presented! Even voted against bills you introduced for the 20% you did vote on! This is a major reason why no one should vote for you!

17. Oops I missed voted. Liar Liar Liar, You did not request a change in any vote until after some special interest, church or others got in your face about it some time later most often weeks to months later!

18. I was a law professor. Liar Liar Liar Huge MASSIVE LIAR! You were never hired as a law professor by any college or university. You were to be a guest lecturer but you have been on leave and thus never gave one single lecture!

19. I was a constitutional Lawer. Liar Liar Liar Big Fat Liar! You were never hired by any company as a constitutional lawyer and never worked on any case which bears your name on constitutional issues! With the one law firm you were with, you were on leave to be a guest lecturer which you are on leave from that as well! Thus you have never worked as a lawyer anywhere because you have been on leave where ever you go.

20. Without me, there would be no ethics bill! Liar Liar Liar Big Fat Liar!!! You did not write the bill, support the bill, introduce the bill or offer any changes to the bill. You did nothing for the bill and defiantly was not part of the committed who brought the bill before the congress for a vote!

21. The ethics bill was hard to pass! Liar Massive Liar Incredible Liar!!!! The bill took 20 days from draft to passage! It was one of the easiest bills ever passed and is one of the top 25 bills to have gone through that fast with little to no opposition in the last 100 years!

22. I wrote a tough nuclear bill. Liar Liar Liar! Your bill was killed by the democratic committee because it reeked of pandering to special interest specifically Axelrod of Exelon. Its lack of regulatory requirements was a scandal waiting to happen. It reeked of bribery which is why it never made it out of committee!

23. I have released my State records. Liar Liar Liar! You have not released the records. In fact, the state says that there has been no request or signed release by you to open up those records to the public! What are you afraid of Mr. Obama, that people will see all the pork you pushed and bribes you have taken!

24. I took on the Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess. Liar Liar Liar. You were one of hundreds who remedied Altgeld Gardens and in the paperwork you actually worked for Altgeld interest more than the people harmed! What you did do was also extremely minor and was not part of the over all core of the project. In your book, However, you tell it like nothing in the world could be done on that case without your personal approval. Way far from the actual truth!

25. My Economics bill will help America! LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR MASSIVE HORRID LIAR!! First Mr. Obama your 111 points were combined into a package which you are still trying to sell to the American People! Secondly, Mr. Obama, your bill was defeated by 99-0! In fact, Mr. Obama, you voted against your own Economic Bill because even you knew it was stupid and would not work!!!!!! This is the by Far the most single reason not to vote for Obama!!!!

26. I have been a bold leader in Illinois. Liar Liar Liar. No you have not. You were absent most of the time. You did not even try to vote on more than 80% of the bills introduced! Of the 20% you did vote on, you voted against several of your own bills!!! No one from Illinois can find a single project which bears your Name and signature as a push for principle! Thus you were not a bold leader because you could not even show up to vote most of the time a yes or no to even be considered bold one way or the other!!!

27. I passed 26 of my own bills in one year! Liar Liar Big Fat Liar!! Those bills were given to you by a senor senator for you to learn the ropes of how the system worked. What is sad is that the senior senator though it necessary for you to have to learn to do your job!!!! Since you just introduced those bills and were not their creator, then they are not your bills! This is another prime example not to vote for Obama who had to be taught how to do his job, but obviously Obama never learned a single thing!

28. No one from my senator’’s office nor from my Campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA. Liar Liar Liar Huge Massive Liar!!! Mr. Obama, the Canadian government has released the names and the memos between people in your senatorial office and with your campaign in your attempts to negociate terms of NAFTA once you are president in return for favors! Only the fact that no memo directly linking you prevents your arrest for treason! Just another reason not to vote for Obama!!

29. I am tough on Terrorism. Liar Liar Liar!!! You missed the vote and the debate on the Iranian resolution even though you were in Washington. You were playing hooky from your job as senator on one of the most important resolutions that the congress can do on foreign policy and make a stand on terrorism! Your disregard of your responsibility as a senator is horrid! That evening after the vote, you were seen with Ali Abunimah who openly calls for the destruction of Israel! You continue to suggest that open unconditional talks with Iran is not just ok it best for the security of America. Because, Iran is really friendly to the US and that these unconditional talks will solve regional problems. You support eliminating the US military but defend Iran and openly talk with them as they call for American destruction! You are more willing to talk with terrorist than talk with FOX News who holds a 58% market share of the TV viewers. You are against the Patriot Act and suggest that America should not be looking for Terrorist in the US. But Suggest that America is the root cause of Terrorism in the first place. See: Meet the Nation interview Feb 2008. Your half brother is a member of Hamas yet you do not repudiate him!

Posted by: Facts hurt | September 14, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Hey Kit,..What about the cokehead?,...I'm sure you meant Obama,...didn't your research send you to his book,.in his own words? One thing is crystal clear in this election, the die-hard obama folks never researched obama, because the ones who are,..no longer plan to vote for him. The only people who are still voting for him have yet to research obama,even people from his own party are backing away. Wake up! Maybe next time your "leaders" will nominate someone who really has the democrat party first and foremost NOT the personal leftist, cheating agenda!
P.U.M.A!!

Posted by: Jess | September 14, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Bama Will Never Vote Obama, posted for tom
LINUX!!
Finally somebody I can relate to!
Dude screw all this political gibberish, what kind of linux are you using? I use ubuntu(dual booting with windows) and Mandriva on my laptop. I love open source software, and it's my primary OS. Which linux are you using?

Posted by: tom | September 14, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

After seven years of Bush the Decider:
(He my commander in chief and I love him, but thanks for asking ass-bag)

How's that "Mission Accomplished" thing going for ya?(That Naval Task-Forces mission was accomplished when that banner was hung and it still is. How's that repeat something enough times in the media it becomes the truth thing going for you)

How's that Katrina mess going for ya? (Under a different and cooperative Governor just fine. Guess you don't get TV)

How's that congressional corruption going for ya?(I don't know, is William "COLDCASH" Jefferson in jail yet?)
Hows that "Wanted Dead or Alive" thing going for ya?(Still looking, killed a bunch of guys that worked for him along the way though. Hows that no more terrorist attacks since 9-11 working for you. I accept your personal thanks there Jeffy-boy. Didn't mind a bit, killing those guys is very satisfying)

How's that largest national debt in history going for ya?(Howa are those pie in the sky promises from your guy coming)

How's that Iraq-nam thing going for ya?(I guess you didn't like the surge working. Been there, done that twice and the Kurds really like us)

How's that "Spreading Freedom Around the World" thing going for ya?(How that buck everything your country tries to do because you're a seditious traitor liberal hack working for you)

Now McSame and Barbie want to shove four more years down our throats. I don't think so." (Oh, I think so)

How are those worn out democratic talking points working for you?

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 14, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

McSame came in the lower fifth of his US Naval Academy graduating class. He trashed FIVE US Navy aircraft. Does that qualify this old man with running the damn country?
GET SERIOUS.

Posted by: Jeff | September 14, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

How about obama's own words?

RUSSIAN NUCLEAR BOMBER JETS LAND in VENEZUELA SOUTH AMERICA
Can we trust Obama with this? Remember when he said that Russia could be taken care of at the UNSC where Russia has veto power!?!?!

Posted by: Jess | September 13, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Where is the justice?
Your president is a COKEHEAD, DRUNK, AWOL CHICKENHAWK, COWARD, FRATBOY/COWBOY LOSER.
McSame and Barbie are the sockpuppets of Bush.

Posted by: kit | September 13, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

hawkdriver,
I'm sorry if I'm boring you. thank you for giving me that evidence about Obama and his black extremist connections. I beleive what you've said about his cruel comments about McCain, and about him calling Sarah Palin a pig. I agree with you, those are terrible things. But I haven't stated which party I'm voting for. I'm just looking for facts in order to make the best chioce.
All though I'll have to take your word on all this stuff, it's good enough for me.
I will give the GOP the benefit of the doubt.
Thanks Bro

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

http://www. homelandsecurityus. com/20080823O

23 August 2008: A lawsuit filed in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania might be the catalyst that will compel democratic presidential candidate Barack Hussein OBAMA to produce legitimate birth records that would verify his citizenship and thus, his eligibility to be president.

As heard on The Roth Show last night, Pennsylvania attorney Phillip BERG filed for DECLARTORY AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF against OBAMA and the DNC. Whatever one might think of the petitioner (plaintiff) in this case, these are legitimate questions that must be answered.

Excerpt:

Plaintiff hereby incorporates Paragraphs 1 through 62 as if fully set forth herein.

Obama committed Fraud upon Plaintiff and the American Citizens by running for President claiming to be eligible knowing he was not eligible as a result of his failure to regain his United States Citizenship and by maintaining multi citizenships with Kenya and Indonesia.

Obama further committed Fraud upon Plaintiff and the American people by falsifying information on his Illinois State Bar Registration and Public Disciplinary Record. Obama stated on his Application to the State Bar of Illinois, as proven by the Illinois State Bar Registration and Disciplinary Record, stating he never used any other names. Obama signed his application/registration for the Illinois State Bar under the penalty of perjury knowing the information to be false.

The fact of the matter is Obama used the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia and was registered as a citizen of Indonesia on his school records. Obama further used the name Barry Obama and it is further believed Obama used the name Barack and/or Barry Dunham.

Obama attempted to defraud Plaintiff and the American people by allowing an altered and forged Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) to be placed on his campaign website. Obama was well aware the Government issued COLB was altered and forged as the original document was in the name of Maya Kasandra Soetoro born in 1970. Maya Kassandra Soetoro Obama’s half sister who was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii.

Obama further attempted to defraud Plaintiff and the American People by claiming to be a United States Citizen, knowing this information to be false. Obama is well aware when his mother married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and took up residency in Indonesia with Obama, they both naturalized in Indonesia expatriating their United States Citizenship. Obama’s mother failed to regain her citizenship after her divorce to Lolo Soetoro, when Obama was a minor and Obama himself failed to regain his United States Citizenship by taking the oath of allegiance, which is recorded when he turned eighteen (18) years.

Furthermore, Obama is well aware he is not a United States Citizen and does not qualify as a “natural born” citizen. Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, at which time he was twenty (20) years old and used his Indonesian Passport, not a United States passport.

Moreover, as stated above, Obama was registered in School in Jakarta, Indonesia as Barry Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, born in 1961 in Hawaii and his religion was registered as Islam.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is supposed to represent and protect the interests of working Americans, which includes securing a Democratic Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of the United States Constitution. The DNC has failed to inquire into Obama’s eligibility status.

For the above aforementioned reasons, Obama needs to immediately step down and withdrawal his candidacy for Presidency.

Complaint PDF Format (Right click to download, choose “Save as” or "Save target as.
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Posted by: Troy | September 13, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I simply pointed at the hypocrisy of your statement, which you still have yet to work your way out of.

I don't need links to right wing blogs, my family is a whole bunch of right wingers. I read Christian Science Monitor or something the rather while drinking coffee today. My mother leaves the radio on Rush Limbaugh and I hear it whenever I stop over for lunch hour.


I have watched homeless children walking down the street with snot all over their faces addicted to glue begging to shine someone's shoes, I have talked grandmother who let generations of abuse continue because they thought their was no one to help them, I have walked in to pueblos alone with no one by my side informing women of their human rights. I have helped refugees to read and learn english. I have tried to make this world a better place. I have ignored lucrative jobs offers due to my education because life is service and if you cannot answer my aforementioned statement and only be hateful this former independent voter who is now a democrat will surely be there to vote for Obama election day, because you can make all the nasty comments you want but all these people I have assisted as a "community organizer" in someway are my sisters and brothers and I don't care what you say, because I believe it to be true.

VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08

Posted by: Bella | September 13, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Here ya go TOM!

From: Bama Will Never Vote Obama
Date: Aug 31, 2008 11:43 PM

Obama Campaign Behind Anti-Palin Smear Site?
Posted by adminat August 30, 2008Suddenly appearing among the Google search results for “sarah palin gay,” a web site titled: Sarah Palin Supports Gay Rights.

Sarah Palin (GOV-Alaska-Republican), supports gay rights, says Anchorage Daily News.

Quote “Gov. Sarah Palin vetoed a bill Thursday that sought to block the state from giving public employee benefits such as health insurance to same-sex couples.” Quote “”It is the Governor’s intention to work with the legislature and to give the people of Alaska an opportunity to express their wishes and intentions whether these benefits should continue,” the statement from Palin’s administration said.

Coghill said he’s interested in a new plan that would allow state employees to designate one person — maybe a same-sex partner, but also possibly a family member or roommate — who would be eligible for state-paid benefits. But the employee would have to pay to add that person to his or her benefits.

Sarah Palin’s veto gave gays the same rights as married couples in Alaska.

A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for gay marriage.

Interesting. There’s nothing else on the page.
This sure looks like the work of the dastardly right-wing anti-gay attack machine, doesn’t it?

But look who’s really behind this.

In the Linux console, if you enter the following commands, you can learn the secrets of a political dirty trick.
First, look up the host of ‘sarahpalingayrights. com’ to get the site’s IP address.

host sarahpalingayrights. com sarahpalingayrights. com has address 74. 208. 74. 232

Then use the same command to look up the domain name pointer of that IP address.

host 74. 208. 74. 232 232. 74. 208. 74. in-addr. arpa domain name pointer obamadefense. com

Well, well.
“Obamadefense. com,” eh?

And what happens if you enter obamadefense. com on your browser’s address line?

Why, you’re redirected to none other than FightTheSmears. com, the official Barack Obama site that’s supposed to be defending him against smears.

Looks like they may have a second purpose: to generate a few smears of their own.

(Hat tip: sk.
)

UPDATE at 8/30/08 11:14:12 am:

Here’s another site that traces back to obamadefense. com: ObamaTaxCut. com.

UPDATE at 8/30/08 11:24:46 am:

Two more web sites that share the IP address of obamadefense. com:

John McCain opposes the new GI Bill, but why? John McCain Prefers War

http://www. audacityofhypocrisy. com/2008/08/30/obama-campaign-behind-anti-palin-smear-site/

Posted by: ForTOM | September 13, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

What about the cokehead, drunk, AWOL chickenhawk, coward, fratboy/cowboy loser Bush? America is sick of his crap and all that is represented by McGrampa and Barbie.

Posted by: Kit | September 13, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

"whether she comes home to try to meet her obligations to our WHOLE state or goes on to bamboozle the country like she did us"

Now you know how Illinois feels.

4 months total in the Senate."
Nope...sorry, I don't know how Illinois feels. I know how Alaska is beginning to feel about a governor who's claim to fame was going to be transparency-in-goverment as we try to digest the idea that she and her staff use private email accounts to avoid the scrutiny goverment email can be subject to. I know how clammed up folks are all over because of our governor's reputation for going after those who don't agree with her. I know how we are, just now, being able to sorta look at ourselves in the mirror for voting in and enduring Murkowski's reign of corruption . I know how we are all waiting for our continued public humiliation in the form of Senator Stevens' corruption trial this month... and I know I know nothing about Illinois... just like no one knows much about Alaska.

Posted by: alaska pi | September 13, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

"hawkster, my reply is two below"

Could you please just repost it for me. I'm not very good at reading down. Evidently your guys aren't either if you all have to keep reposting that first comment/book/rant.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

OMG, did you guys really cut and paste that entire first post again? Groan!

How funny and set up and fake this entire story and group of sock-puppet posters are.

I guess anonymous must have just been really lucky to have all of that time after the story was posted to type that whole p'owning of not only McCain but the entire evil Conservative universe.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove's Koolaide Wagon had the 28% sheeple swallowing his putrid swill for seven years. He got a cokehead, drunk, AWOL chickenhawk coward, fratboy/cowboy loser elected to the highest office in the land. Are you ready for him to get a pair of idiots to complete the job The Decider started? Drink up and swallow deep little sheep.

Posted by: Kit | September 13, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

After seven years of Bush the Decider:
How's that "Mission Accomplished" thing going for ya?
How's that Katrina mess going for ya?
How's that congressional corruption going for ya?
Hows that "Wanted Dead or Alive" thing going for ya?
How's that largest national debt in history going for ya?
How's that Iraq-nam thing going for ya?
How's that "Spreading Freedom Around the World" thing going for ya?
Now McSame and Barbie want to shove four more years down our throats. I don't think so.

Posted by: Jeff | September 13, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

tom, yawn,

In NC, the State Republican Party was asked by Senator McCain to stop running an ad campaign that highlighted the fact that he spent twenty years iun a church listening to the most hate filled, anti-American rhetoric possible within hours of the first complaint. Senator Obama took nearly two days to ask the Daily Kos, Democratic Underground et al to stop running with the asinine story that Bristol was Trig Palins real mother. It goes on. He made fun of Senator McCain physical impairments and called Sarah Palin a pig. Hell, he even flipped Hillary off to the laughter of his audience.

Your entire party is the likes of Randi Rhodes and just a bunch of cheap shot artists.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Don't be surprised if Bristol Palin has a "miscarriage"

Posted by: Firestarter | September 13, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

hawkster, my reply is two below

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

"Hey tom, if all you could gather from that was a suspicion of "racism" and not a little sarcasm of the good Senators rationalizations, do us a favor and just stay home."

Who said you were a racist? Who said you were uneducated? Not me. I'm just asking people to help me make the right choice.
I really want to understand your view on Obama, but I didn't understand the point you were trying to make.
You don't have to get upset.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe the mud slinging happening here. This is pathetic! Here we are in one of the most important elections in our lifetime and this is the best we can do? Come on people! This mud slinging is not the answer! Lets talk about the issues in a civil matter!

Posted by: Chillingaz | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

hawkdriver:

"Bella, you ignorant hypocrite, we took the gloves off two weeks ago when your party of love and peace attacked our VP pick and her entire family with the worst vile I have ever heard. Hate? You people on the left invented hate."

Could you please tell me when or where Obama or Biden attacked Sarah Pailn and her family? Please post links to where I can verify this. Because if it's true, it may help me make a correct choice when I vote.

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I get a chuckle when extreme radical leftist progressives call them selves sane.

Posted by: 32 | September 13, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

"I don't fully understand what you're saying. Are you angry at him for being black(or half black) and having a good education? Is something he's saying making you feel not intelligent or less than?"

Hey tom, if all you could gather from that was a suspicion of "racism" and not a little sarcasm of the good Senators rationalizations, do us a favor and just stay home.

No wait, I can't hide it any more. Yeah, he makes me feel so inadequate because he went to an ivy league school and I only go to go to ERAU and become a pilot. I’d much rather be a deep-thinker professional type than someone who actually does something constructive. You’ve identified my problem, now what should I do. Would voting for him help?

Posted by: hawkster | September 13, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

as a vegan animal rights activist I am good at spotting unfairness and doing something about it. what they did to Clinton was cruel and extremely unfair. for that I knew I had a responsibility to not vote for Obama. then i find that McCain has picked a VP that supports aerial gunning down of wolves, shooting bears and bunnies, global warmng is a farce. Well now I feel I have a responsibility to keep Palin from ever getting near the white house by voting for "i stole the nomination" Obama whom at least supports protecting our environment and the animals. Obama did not earn my vote and is getting it only out of default, to prevent the evil that is Palin, a Bush #2. Is it too much to ask for enlightenment in our political leaders? guess so. Kucinich would have been that enlightened leader.

Posted by: Pat | September 13, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

saferich:
"Bella, you must be reading the liberal blogs. They are the hate filled ones. (Mostly but not all.)"

could you please post some links to the non-liberal blogs? I too am sick of these one sided liberal hate blogs, and want to experience the other sides view. This will help me make the best choice for my country when I vote.

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Dear Shelby,

What the heck are you talking about? I am a Hilary Clinton fan too. The people have voted and she lost to Obama. The Democratic Party platform is about a movement that was started at the grassroots. Its about empowering small town America all the way to Congress. Please take the time to educate yourself on the issues instead of letting your disappointed get the best of you. I know you are better than this.

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh Everybody, Bella wnats us to go to the link and read her stupid book. We all must obey the crazed liberal blogger who made fun of a pregnant 17 year old and then chided us mean ole repubs in the next for being mean.

Will it teach us how to hate like you?

Posted by: hawk-puppet | September 13, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Ohh poor Sarah protect her from the evil media. Yeah thats really going to work with Putin.

Get real. This international politics and not your backyard bbq. War, nukes, genocide and death.

She needs to quit whining in her own words. Come back to the real world read up on Putin and genocide and then maybe you'll have a different perception.

Posted by: Bella | September 13, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

could be hawk:
"Obama is a do-nothing, write two books about himself while everyone else around him is legislating and governing, dreaming about being prez with his arrogant ivy-league nose stuck in the air, not doing anything for the world but taking everything from it, saying he thought about joining the army but knowing he couldn't really presume to lower himself to the level of us poor idiots who aren't smart enough to get into a college, imagining the only reason some of us unwashed masses won't vote for him is because he's half black, cuz we's too stoopit to not be bigits."

I don't fully understand what you're saying. Are you angry at him for being black(or half black) and having a good education? Is something he's saying making you feel not intelligent or less than?
Please explain because I want to make the right choice when I vote, and I think you might be on to something.

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

"whether she comes home to try to meet her obligations to our WHOLE state or goes on to bamboozle the country like she did us"

Now you know how Illinois feels.

4 months total in the Senate.

Posted by: hawkster | September 13, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

You have still failed to address my statement. You sound like McSame. Vote for candidates that actually protect women instead of doing nothing.

Once again Palin is doing nothing for feminism. Read a book. Yep, I said it so put that in your book and ban it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1HACgIOOfE&feature=related

Posted by: Bella | September 13, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

"All you republicans who spew this hate should work your way out of my comment below.

By the way stop hate and war Vote Obama."

Bella, you ignorant hypocrite, we took the gloves off two weeks ago when your party of love and peace attacked our VP pick and her entire family with the worst vile I have ever heard. Hate? You people on the left invented hate!

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

This was organized by Charla Sterne and Ilona Bessenyey.

Public background search reveals the following:

1. Charla Sterne - Employed by US Fish and Wildlife Service, Endangered Species Specialist

2. Ilona Bessenyey - Elder Law Attorney with Bessenyey & Van Tuyn LLC, Anchorage Alaska. Peter Van Tuyn, husband, is an environmental lawyer who has testified before the US Congress arguing against Alaskan oil exploration.

Posted by: COMNAV 1 | September 13, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Bella, you must be reading the liberal blogs. They are the hate filled ones. (Mostly but not all.)

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Way to go ladies! Cheers from Juneau...!
We may have needed her to get rid of Murkowski but it's our very own Alaskan neighbors who sat on the Federal grand jury which handed down VECO indictments and more of those neighbors who sat on corruption trial juries and sent those rats to jail who have made the BIGGEST corruption reform in this state!Hats off to you neighbors!
Ms Palin's honeymoon phase is coming to an end now... whether she comes home to try to meet her obligations to our WHOLE state or goes on to bamboozle the country like she did us, it will never be as it was. The much vaunted Alaskan qualities of independence and self reliance have taken a big hit in the last 30 years here for a variety of reasons... worrying about what A Sarah Palin might do to you in part. You ladies get MY vote as REAL ALASKAN WOMEN!

Posted by: Alaska Pi | September 13, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Okay Toritto you can out-villify me. I give up. Do you have healthcare?

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

saferich,

I think we do agree. This is exactly what I did. I was born and raised in a small town located in the bible belt of America. I now live in a suburb of a large city. I would have stayed in my small town, but what I wanted to accomplish in my life and the kind of life I wanted to have could not have happened in small town America. I believe this is the trend and has been happening for a long time. This, in itself, ask the question, Why aren't there a lot of people without jobs moving to the small towns of America from large cities too?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I considered voting for McCain then he picked that animal killing evangelical nut Palin as his VP. UGH---now I am left with voting for Ralph Nader,Green Party. Obama will not get my vote, a lesson to teach the DNC for screwing Clinton over, THE nominee whom could have beat McCain in this election was stomped on and for that they will pay.

Posted by: Shelby | September 13, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"Palin is doing nothing for feminism. Read a book."

Obama is a do-nothing, write two books about himself while everyone else around him is legislating and governing, dreaming about being prez with his arrogant ivy-league nose stuck in the air, not doing anything for the world but taking everything from it, saying he thought about joining the army but knowing he couldn't really presume to lower himself to the level of us poor idiots who aren't smart enough to get into a college, imagining the only reason some of us unwashed masses won't vote for him is because he's half black, cuz we's too stoopit to not be bigits,

Posted by: could-be-hawk | September 13, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

All you republicans who spew this hate should work your way out of my comment below.

By the way stop hate and war Vote Obama.

Posted by: Bella | September 13, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

OK, I lived in Alaska for a long time (and will return there when I complete my service) and I have NEVER heard the Lower 48 called "The Outside." Did the reporter make that up?

Posted by: M Tyson | September 13, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Holding Obama responsible for what his pastor says is like holding your teenage daughter responsible for an unplanned pregnacy---Opps, did I make a boo boo?

Posted by: Bella | September 13, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

"It's almost funny except you realize they might win; McCain might die; she might be President of the United States. I really hope this makes people take a second look at McCain, at his judgment, at the kind of risk he is taking."

And we on the right "fear" that Obama will make Bill Ayers Secretary of Defence and that he'll break his buddy Tony Rezco out of prison and make him Secretary of the Treasury.

He will certainly take away the right to free speech from conservatives by enacting the Fairness Doctraine. You cut and paste artists ought to love that. No more opinion but your own.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Palin is doing nothing for feminism. Read a book.

Posted by: Bella | September 13, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

A half-truth is a lie.

Wish the lovely Sen. McCain would remember that.

Wish the governor from Alaska -- given all the test prep she's received -- would learn that.

Wish we all weren't being subjected to a dumbing-down of crucial issues by a two-some who defy all sense of honor.

Am thrilled that some Alaskans are speaking their minds; it's quite telling that they fear retribution from the ever-vindictive governor.

Posted by: Pat2 | September 13, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse


Let's take the gloves off! Hey and get a bit of stress relief while we are at it;. It does feel good!

http://www.bpo-o-rama.com

Posted by: acarponzo | September 13, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh saferich give it a rest will you?

You can either vote your pocketbook or your "values"..

ANYONE can live their values and still vote their pockbook. Voting their "values" while doing without healthcare is just plain dumb...

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Is this the best that the empty suited "one" can do; call out to the troops to cut and paste the same comments all over the web?

I love how several "hundred" people in Alaska are a major event to the WaPo and then Bloomberg runs a story how they surmise the McCain camp must "just be fibbing about their big ole Plain rallies". Freakin MSM, is in the tank...hard..

Folks, unless you can cut and paste your votes a couple hundred time in November, your man-child cry-baby nitwit know-nothing liberal ass-bag is going down.

Posted by: might-be-hawk | September 13, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Message to Obama Headquarters. Your getting your buts kicked at http//www.bop-o-rama.com

I say put all the candidates in a room together and see if they can act human.

Posted by: acarponzo | September 13, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

My bad Joe. I meant Mark.

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama is the expert on terrorism. He is, after all, friends with one. Bill Ayers is Tim McVey except Obama's pal was too stupid to be effective.

You are who your friends are. Rezko, Ayers, Rev. Wright, and every corrupt Chi town pol Obama worked with. I'm still waiting for the "shocking" revelation that he meet with Farrakan.

Posted by: newagegop | September 13, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow, as an independent voter I do have one observation. The right wingers and republicans seem to always listen to the left letting them express their opinions. The left seems to always call people who don't agree with them liars and stupid. Sounds a bit facist to me. But that's just my opinion. You may disagree.

Posted by: Freethinker | September 13, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

It's almost funny except you realize they might win; McCain might die; she might be President of the United States. I really hope this makes people take a second look at McCain, at his judgment, at the kind of risk he is taking.

Posted by: Elinor | September 13, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Message to WaPO:

We appreciate your help this year, but given the latest polls, we need you to step it up. Our president has asked that you run this story on the front page tomorrow morning.

Real Change is Coming.

Posted by: Obama Headquarters | September 13, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Joe, You said, "Obama is still a socialist Manchurian candidate who has never met an abortion he didn't love." Where is your proof. Didn't you read the post by saferich?

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin IS the bridge to nowhere.

Posted by: shashinyc | September 13, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio now leaning McCain in latest polls. Obama's goin' down and you all know it! Hey, guys, looks like we're going to steal another one!!! McCain 1...Empty Suit 0.....

Posted by: Ad Rem | September 13, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Some people in Alaska don't like Palin? I'll bet it was organized by the corrupt Republicans she fought and beat.

Posted by: John H | September 13, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama resources are starting to leave Florida. He's spent $8 million to McCain's less than $1 million and is trailing by at least 6% points.

McCain Palin will win FL, OH, and PA, VA, and NC.

Obama "jumped the shark" after he dissed the troops in Germany to get rest for his Celebrity speech.

Posted by: Get a Grip | September 13, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Chillingaz, Thanks for the rational post. I am better off than many, I guess, but I have lived with a handicap since I was 5. This country has done very well by me and I have voted both Dem and Rep. I recall the Carter admin. as a disaster and the Clinton Admin. as well over average. Both Rep and Dems have hurt and helped me. I pulled myself up by the bootstraps at a terrible disadvantage. Perhaps I don't have the middle class, which I am part of, defined as you do. All I know is that when polled, people say that the economy is going in the wrong direction but it hasn't affected them much. There are hundreds of jobs in this rural area with most being good paying. We can't even fill them, so I guess I can't see the worst of it. Sometimes people might have to move to find those jobs. Americans have been doing that since we became a nation. Soooo, as a finishing gesture, I guess that you and I will have to respectfully agree to disagree.
God bless.

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey Joe, despite your filibuster screed, Obama is still a socialist Manchurian candidate who has never met an abortion he didn't love. You must be Biden's speechwriter, considering the length of your "comment". BTW what conspiracies theorys don't you believe in?

Posted by: Mark | September 13, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow, sore losers came together. We all know that only 83% of Alaskans approve Gov. Palin. So obviously, 17% does not. This newspaper does not need to sensationalize a protest against Gov. Palin, unless you are looking for sensation. Is that good journalism or a desperation on part of desperate media?

Posted by: Wiel | September 13, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm a, er, former Ron Paul supporter woman type person but now, oh no I just can't because he picked a woman who isn't Hillary for VP and I just hate, hate, hate her because I hate her and what she did to feminism.

Sarah Palin scares me because no one in Hollywood appoves of her. Do you need any other freaking proof?

Posted by: nope-still-not-hawk | September 13, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Time and Distance.

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

If only I had know I would have been there ! I hope people in the lower 48 don't get the impression that we all live in lake front houses with docks and private aircraft. Anchorage is a real city, with real urban problems, as well as the highest rape,child abuse, and alchol related deaths rates in the US. Palin was elected without a majority of the votes. By the way, the stores were jammed with shoppers buyng big screens and major toys. Thanks Sara for the $13,600 check of free money from the state you sent my family of 4 yesterday. And thanks to all of you down south who subsudize this annual event.

Posted by: Alaskan for Truth | September 13, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

If only I had know I would have been there ! I hope people in the lower 48 don't get the impression that we all live in lake front houses with docks and private aircraft. Anchorage is a real city, with real urban problems, as well as the highest rape,child abuse, and alchol related deaths rates in the US. Palin was elected without a majority of the votes. By the way, the stores were jammed with shoppers buyng big screens and major toys. Thanks Sara for the $13,600 check of free money from the state you sent my family of 4 yesterday. And thanks to all of you down south who subsudize this annual event.

Posted by: Alaskan for Truth | September 13, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ALL small towns, ALL suburbs and ALL cities in the United States of America?


Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm a, er, former Republican woman type person but now, oh no I just can't because he picked a woman who isn't Hillary for VP and I just hate, hate, hate her because I hate her and what she did to feminism.

Posted by: really-not-hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

Wow, I guess she doesn't know who the Govenor of her own state is.

And, how shocking that the Obama campaign was able to coble together a demonstration in Alaska's largest city. Whatever, they cannot take away her over 80% approval rating from clear thinking Alaskans.

Posted by: James | September 13, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I have noticed that the repubs in this post can usually get to their point in a few sentences, whereas the dems need a couple of paragraphs. A little long winded I think. You lost me in a blizzard of words.

Posted by: cb | September 13, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm a, er, former Hillary supporter woman type person but now, oh no I just can't because be picked a woman who isn't Hillary for VP and I just hate, hate, hate her because I hate her and what she did to feminism.

No, I'm really not a sock-puppet!

Posted by: not-hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm a, er, former McCain supporter woman type person but now, oh no I just can't because be picked a woman who isn't Hillary for VP and I just hate, hate, hate her because I hate her and what she did to feminism.

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama is in a panic. The 50 state strategy has failed. The money is running out. The momentum gone......

sniffle...sniffle....

Posted by: McPalin gonna kick yo as* | September 13, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Hitler was a community organizer. FDR was a Governor.

Posted by: davenp35 | September 13, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

This bimbo broad will never be in control of what I read, what I let my child read, what I decide to do about my reproductive choices, etc. She is a dangerous Constitution shreader who uses her power in bizarre, cruel ways!!!!

Posted by: Cheryl | September 13, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"P. S. At the entrance to the parking lot was a McCain supporter waving an old Soviet flag - like only he loved America. What a moron.

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM"

Seven and counting!

How many times are you going to "plant" this "inspiring" story you old grass roots organizer you?

This whole story and nutroot pile-on is concocted and just plain stupid. We see your scripted cut and pastes all over the web.

I hear hate from the left and I also smell...

fear

Posted by: hawkdriver | September 13, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

PALIN IS ACCUSED OF CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND
http://www.theveep.com

LEVI, THE BF OF BRISTOL PALIN SAYS HE IS A REDNECK, AND HE WILL KICK YOUR A@@
http://www.hotpres.com

DID SARAH PALIN VOTE FOR RON PAUL DURING THE PRIMARY???
http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Okay,toritto you prove my point again. Your discourse is filled with hate, bigotry and falsehoods. I never once mentioned God, guns or gays.I never even told you I owned a bible. By the way, I am Christian and I do have guns and many friends who are gay. Oh? How can that be? I go to church in hopes that I can become a better person. I realize that I am far from perfect and I am reluctant to judge others. Oh, did I mention that I am a patriot as I suppose are you? Anger can lower a person's lifespan so I hope you can get over it.

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

saferich,

Here, Here. It is about the issues. It is also about what direction this country is going to go, because ALL of us will be effected by it no matter what your political affiliation is. At this point, the majority of ALL Americans are not better off than they were eight years ago. If you are, then they must ask, "To what extent was it at the expense of those with no representation?" One cannot improve themselves and their families if they do not have the opportunity to "pull up their own boot straps." The people who have been running this country for a long, long time have created this mess by pitting Americans against Americans while at the same time giving us boots without any straps.

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I was totally stunned and pleased to see the huge turnout for this rally, not to mention the hundreds of cars that passed honking their approval and giving us the thumbs up. We were peaceful, polite and a truly cohesive group up here in Anchorage. Now it's up to you all in the lower 48 to pick up this ball and run with it!!!!!

Posted by: alaska girl | September 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

People in Alaska keep it going. Give this issue more press. The rest of the sane United States are so so proud of you.

I as a formerly Hillary supporter briefly considered voting for McCain until I saw this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o

Along with the fact that I don't agree with her on anything. This woman is a political ploy who bs's her was through the Bush Doctrine.

Then I thought about WHAT WOULD HILLARY DO.

MMM WHAT WOULD HILLARY DO?????????


SHE WOULDN'T VOTE FOR MCCAIN THAT IS FOR SURE.

Barak you have my vote, just put her in whatever Cabinet position she wants and I think at this point you're running scared so you will.

NO NO NO to Cheney in a dress. This woman is an insult to Hillary and for all you woman who think that voting McCain/Palin will get her elected in 12 yeah you'd better think again. Having this woman as the VP will only damage Hillary in 2012.

http://biden.senate.gov/issues/issue/?id=975b0cf4-ce25-42cc-b63d-072fb81e8618

KEEP PROTECTING WOMEN BIDEN U HAVE MY VOTE ALL THE WAY!!!!!

Keep protesting we'll start protesting here.


Hillary supporters for women's rights instead of againt them.


I am not going to be part of taking a big step backwards, plus Palin makes RAPE VICTIMS PAY FOR THEIR OWN TEST KITS WHILE BIDEN HAS PASSED VERY IMPORTANT LEGISTLATION PROTECTING WOMEN FROM VIOLENCE. Palin in my view did the opposite.

Being for women's rights has nothing to do with being a woman.


Biden/Obama you have my vote.

Share this with your friends. We're not stupid McCain we're women.

STOP ALL VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

2nd post yes I know, but as a woman who works with abusive men and abused women. THIS ISSUE IS SO SO IMPORTANT TO ME. Okay now I am leaving.

Posted by: YES WE CAN | September 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

When McCain and Pallin open their mouths - they're lying.

....and they're starting to get called on it.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama's one-liners are getting old real fast. He really is an "empty suit". This is one star that's falling fast. Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air. She may not be the perfect feminist, but she sure is one hot babe. McCain all the way!!

Posted by: Big Jane A Mama | September 13, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This is fantastic! Keep at it, Alaska! Let your true voice be heard!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: Barbara | September 13, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay, here goes for what I hope is the last time. The level of the commentary on this post is, I hope, not a typical liberal thing. If I get one more reference from them on being uneducated, a lemming, idiots, fools, etc. I'm going to choke. Talk about issues not name calling. (How childish!) Calling Gov. Palin a pig is really adult-like. Oh, by the way I am educated in both university and small town America and just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I am insane. I wouldn't call you that even if I thought it was true.

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

The first of many such ANTI-pALIN rally's.

Too bad these women were afraid to say where they work for fear of apprisals from HER cult church and from HER, herself. People in Alaska who cross HER, lose their jobs.

The woman is a lying loon and no Hillary.

Despite HER, McShame's and the RNC's claims she (the lying loon) NEVER stepped foot in Iraq.

Please forward this article to all who are concerned about the future of the American people (not Big Oil and Big Business).

Posted by: SueMVeteran for Obama | September 13, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey saferich: The problem with "small town American" is usually its extreme parochialism. What's so hot about "small town America"?

Where or where do you get the idea that a black guy with a funny name is "elite" and a puffy old white guy from a family of Admirals, married to the wealthiest sorority queen in Arizona has the "common touch"?

Do you sit in your small town getting agita over "celebs" and lawyers? Does it bother you that millions don't live their lives observing the bible? Do you worry about "God, guns and gays"?

Look, if "working class" voters living in rust belt states in small declining towns, with no growth and no jobs, no health insurance, no prospects for their kids in that small town. no ability to send them to college, no means to accumulate enough to retire - if these folks vote their "values" and consider a Dem who will try to help them better their lives as an "elitist" then they deserve what they get - which will be nothing from a Republican administration. The GOP will make sure your sons have opportunities in the Army as grunts to continue their war policies. You will get no health care if you dont have any; no help for college; no help with saving for retirement.

Eat your "patriotism" and enjoy the common touch of a first lady that wore a $300,000 dress to the Convention and chirps about how she relates.

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

People in Alaska keep it going. Give this issue more press. The rest of the sane United States are so so proud of you.

I as a formerly Hillary supporter briefly considered voting for McCain until I saw this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQGWpRVA7o

Along with the fact that I don't agree with her on anything. This woman is a political ploy who bs's her was through the Bush Doctrine.

Then I thought about WHAT WOULD HILLARY DO.

MMM WHAT WOULD HILLARY DO?????????


SHE WOULDN'T VOTE FOR MCCAIN THAT IS FOR SURE.

Barak you have my vote, just put her in whatever Cabinet position she wants and I think at this point you're running scared so you will.

NO NO NO to Cheney in a dress. This woman is an insult to Hillary and for all you woman who think that voting McCain/Palin will get her elected in 12 yeah you'd better think again. Having this woman as the VP will only damage Hillary in 2012.

http://biden.senate.gov/issues/issue/?id=975b0cf4-ce25-42cc-b63d-072fb81e8618

KEEP PROTECTING WOMEN BIDEN U HAVE MY VOTE ALL THE WAY!!!!!

Keep protesting we'll start protesting here.


Hillary supporters for women's rights instead of againt them.


I am not going to be part of taking a big step backwards, plus Palin makes RAPE VICTIMS PAY FOR THEIR OWN TEST KITS WHILE BIDEN HAS PASSED VERY IMPORTANT LEGISTLATION PROTECTING WOMEN FROM VIOLENCE. Palin in my view did the opposite.

Being for women's rights has nothing to do with being a woman.


Biden/Obama you have my vote.

Share this with your friends. We're not stupid McCain we're women.

STOP ALL VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

Posted by: WE CAN DO IT | September 13, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Thank God for Freedom of Speech.

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

saferich,

Can you please be more specific in what you are talking about?

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

When pressed to come up with any experience on issues of national security that Sarah Palin had, John McCain had a one word answer:

INTERVIEWER: Again, I'm just asking you for an example, what experience does she have in the field of national security?

McCAIN: Energy. She knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.

And leaving aside the question of exactly how that translates into national security experience, let's look at Palin showing off that expertise during her recent interview with Charlie Gibson:

Palin: Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.

And while facts don't mean anything to the McCain campaign, factcheck.org says that Sarah Palin is wrong:

Palin claims Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." That's not true.

Alaska did produce 14 percent of all the oil from U.S. wells last year, but that's a far cry from all the "energy" produced in the U.S.

Alaska's share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

And if by "supply" Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska's production accounted for only 2.4 percent.

There are a number of conclusions one can draw here, so take your pick: Sarah Palin doesn't know very much about energy, John McCain doesn't know much about Sarah Palin, John McCain and Sarah Palin are both liars, and another claim of Palin's readiness for office goes down the drain. And for the record, the correct conclusion is, "all of the above."

Posted by: stan | September 13, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Okay, what part of small town america does Obama represent. And, what part of being an educated 'elitist' do you think makes them automatically a good commander-in-chief? You basically make the case for simple living small town people by being elitist. Better read your post again. How many times did you belittle small town americans. Does being from New York, L.A., Chicago and (oh no!) San Francisco make a nobody into a sombody vitue of their residence? Most cities exude a fair bit of elitism and can't ever get over rural america being the ones who typically swing elections nationwide. Common sense vs. great education. What an idea!

Posted by: saferich | September 13, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Dear Tony,

Thank you. Your post is what this is all about. The time is upon us to make that great leap forward for the betterment of the USA and for the rest of the world. Will we remain in the ideology and policies of the twentieth century or will we will make that great leap of faith that the twelve disciples of Jesus made so long ago?

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Leadership does not mean domination. The world is always well supplied with people who wish to rule and dominate others.

The true leader is a different sort; he seeks effective activity which has a truly beneficient purpose. He inspires others to follow in his wake, and holding aloft the torch of wisdom, leads the way for society to realize its genuinely great aspirations.

The art of leadership is in the ability to make people want to work for you, while they are really under no obligation to do so. Leaders are people, who raise the standards by which they judge themselves and by which they are willing to be judged. The goal chosen, the objective selected, the requirements imposed, are not mainly for their followers alone.

They develop with consumate energy and devotion, their own skill and knowledge in order to reach the standard they themselves have set.

This whole-hearted acceptance of the demands imposed by even higher standards is the basis of all human progress. A love of higher quality, we must remember, is essential in a leader.

The true leader is one who realizes by faith that he is an instrument in the hands of God, and dedicates himself to be a guide and inspirer of the nobler sentiments and aspirations of the people.

He who would be a leader must pay the price in self-discipline and moral restraints. This details the correction and improvement of his personal character, the checking of passions and desires and an exemplary control of one's bodily needs and desires.

To be first in place, one must be first in merit as well.

He who has not learned to render prompt and willing service to others will find it difficult to win and keep the goodwill and cooperation of his subordinates.

A leader will kindle interest, teach, aid, correct and inspire. Those whom he leads will cooperate with him in maintaining discipline for the good of the group. He will instruct his followers in the goals towards which to strive, and create in them a sense of mutual effort for attaining the goal.

Posted by: Tony | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

It's the beginning of the end for the McCain Palin ticket. THANKS be to GOD!

Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

This afternoon I attended the opening of an Obama campaign office in a small town on central Florida's west coast. This area is mostly retirees with a sprinkling of young people and vets.

I didn't expect much.

I was amazed when more than 200 people showed up! More old people than I ever would have imagined, young college students, blacks, whites and vets.

The key speakers were Lt. General (ret) Claudia Kennedy and Commander Sgt. Major (ret) Michele Jones and Sgt. Major (ret)Jon Estrada. Estrada introduced Obama at the Convention. General Kennedy is on the short list for Secretary of Defense in an Obama administration.

I was surprised by the turn-out because the media would have me believe old people and vets are strongly in McCain's corner.

What I saw today gives me hope that our long national nightmare may soon be over.

P. S. At the entrance to the parking lot was a McCain supporter waving an old Soviet flag - like only he loved America. What a moron.

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

anonymous, it is a shame that the republican masses, who swallow all the lies their leaders tell them, are such lemming. I guess it must be some sort of genetic disorder. Apparently they aren't born with the ability to realize when they are being screwed. It'.s good to be a Democrat and have the ability to think for ones self. And I have to tell you, the media is realizing that they have been taken by this crap that has been put out by the GOP, and the honeymoon is over I do believe. As was once said, " you can fool some of the people some of the time"..., well, you know the rest. That swing group that goes back and forth in these polls will wake up shortly and realize what is happening and McShame and Co will fall from grace once again. Have no fear, the Majority of Americans aren't as stupid as it currently appears.

Posted by: 123akennedy | September 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

please don't continue to insult the intellectual ability of pigs who prefer showers to mud baths by calling them bad names "palin"

that pig on "green acres" was quite bright

Posted by: grandma | September 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

American woman, said get away
American woman, listen what I say
Don’t come hangin’ around my door
Don’t wanna see your face no more
I don’t need your war machines
I don’t need your ghetto scenes
Coloured lights can hypnotize
Sparkle someone else’s eyes
Now woman, get away from me
American woman, mama let me be.


:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anonymous,

I couldn't have said it better. You are right 100%! This is exactly what I have been saying to my colleagues and friends for a very, very long time. The question is, how do you get the "Kool-Aid" drinkers to realize the error of their ways and to change for the betterment of the US? Does the book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" ring of bell to you?

Posted by: chillingaz | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The above post was an amazing piece of writing, too bad that right wing readers will not understand a single word of what you havd put on this page. The main problem as I see it is that we Democrats have the ability to think about a situation whereas Republicans will believe any lie that their leaders tell them is the truth. Its a sad fact, but as a result, we see about half of the country thinking that because Sarah can see Russia from some island in Alaska, she is qualified to be VP, because McCain says it is so, and we all know HE would never tell a lie. Ha,Ha,Ha.

Posted by: 123akennedy | September 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Surged past a thousand!!! Ok. Ok. Democracy ahrd a t work. Feared retribution. Is this yellow press? Scary stuff. http://www.bop-o-rama.com. Team McCain seems to be up in this poll. Is ti the Palin effect,or, the Obama effect?

Posted by: acarponzo | September 13, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

Sorry, " I got lost in a flurry of words"
I think you should take a nap.

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Friday, September 12, 2008
He'd Rather Win The Election Than Portray The Truth

John McCain ran an honorable campaign in 2000.

He was beaten due to scurrilous dishonesty.

He's learned the lesson well.

He's hired those who did this to him.

And now, they are doing it again.

McCain has said that he would rather win the war than win the election.

In fact, as we have seen time after time this week, he would apparently rather win the election than convey the truth.

This approach brought us George W. Bush--and the dissembling, half-truths, omissions and distortions to come. And, so, brought us the tragic consequences that have followed for individuals and families across the nation and the world.

As Americans, we often have short memories and powerful impulses. We tend to act on the latter. This is why history can repeat itself.

Remember. Remember how driven by emotion many became last time. By impulse. Without thought. Remember the statements that were made. Remember the realities that followed. Remember.

You can feel what you feel now--anger, aggression, glee, without examination of the underlying truth--for a moment.

You will live with the consequences for years, decades to come--perhaps for the rest of your life.

Remember the thoughts and feelings that preceded these last 8 years.

Remember.

According to the non-partisan FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html), McCain has strained the truth about health care. About small business. About education. About taxes. About corporate welfare. About energy independence. About free trade.

We've seen this before.

We were distracted from the truth in just the same way before.

And we've lived the resulting damage--for the past 8 years.

This is the way we need to change the nation: By realizing what is true, rather than realizing what emotes us for the moment.

Think.

Remember.

And act accordingly for your future.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

The republicans have lost trust--same people behind Bush are behind McCain and Palin. They serve the rich. If you want more money going to oil and war, and the economy continue to tank, vote for McCain and Palin. They embrace Bush policies which will continue. If you want change, take a chance on Obama.

Posted by: emry | September 13, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a pig!

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

There are left-wingers in Alaska and they organized a protest. Big whoop.

Meanwhile, the WaPo snuck a bit of a correction into one of their stories:

http://peekurl.com/zulqf37

Down the memory hole, all for Obama!

That WaPo smear was from Anne Kornblut, someone who hasn't exactly shown an interest in asking BHO real questions. But, she certainly showed an interest in asking Palin questions:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/007986.html

Posted by: 24AheadDotCom | September 13, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

That is too funny! I'm an independent undecided voter, but that's too funny and were they mostly women?

Posted by: ceriesecoleman | September 13, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

When Palin spoke to her church in Wasilla (the same video where she asked people to pray for the gas pipeline and the mission in Iraq), she said her work as governor wouldn't do any good if people's "hearts aren't right with God."

I do NOT want a vice president or president who is concerned about my relationship with God. Governor, it's none of your damn business!

Posted by: Ann Arbor | September 13, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I just want to point out that that amazing first comment was already here when the article was released.

Posted by: Joe Myers | September 13, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

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