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McCain's Revved-Up Stop in N.H.

By Robert Barnes
LOUDON, N.H. -- Sen. John McCain's campaign made sure there was no chance he would face a paltry crowd in his first stop without his media star running mate, Sarah Palin. That stop was today at the New Hampshire Motor Speedway, capacity more than 95,000, before the Sylvania 300 NASCAR race.

McCain met with drivers before the race, accompanied by racing legend Richard Petty and Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling.

"Thank you for your support for the men and women in the military," McCain told the drivers. "When I'm in Iraq and Afghanistan, they're watching you. You are their role model."

McCain's trip through the infield also included a handshake with former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs, a NASCAR team owner who spoke at the recently completed Republican National Convention.

McCain and his wife, Cindy, were accompanied by the state's Republican senator, John Sununu, and he later was joined on stage with New Hampshire's Democratic Gov. John Lynch .

"Good to be back in New Hampshire, and God bless,'' McCain said.

The Arizona senator flew to Manchester, N.H., from Washington and endured more than an hour's bus ride through gridlocked roads to reach the speedway, where the first event in the Chase for the Sprint Cup was to run.

Despite the delay, the event held great demographic rewards -- an interview with ESPN, a turn before the burgeoning army of NASCAR fans, and a chance to flatter New Hampshire, whose four electoral votes are considered a prize in what will likely be a tight election.

Gone are the days when candidates gambled their futures on New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation primary and then left for good as soon as the primary ballots were counted. President Bush won the state in 2000, Democrat John Kerry prevailed in 2004, and Democrats recorded a banner year in the 2006 election.

It's tight again this year, with polls showing Democrat Barack Obama with a slight lead. Obama visited the state on Friday and Saturday, and his running mate Joseph Biden stopped by on Wednesday. Both the McCain and Obama campaigns have staffed up, and are advertising heavily.

Obama's state coordinator told the Concord Monitor that he is showing an "unprecedented level of commitment to New Hampshire."

And McCain told the Manchester Union-Leader, "It's obvious that New Hampshire will be one of those battleground states. I think the polling data shows it's very close.''

McCain has always had luck in the state's primaries. "I've grown to love New Hampshire over the years," he said.

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Rangel and Obama "working together to craft preminary legislative agenda"- That's just what our economy needs!

**NY Times Calls for Rangel's Resignation from Chairmanship of House Ways and Means Committee Today**

From Newsweek 8/28/08

OBAMA TEAM WORKS WITH HILL DEMOCRATS
(Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post)
Eager to avoid the missteps that plagued the first months of the Clinton administration, aides to Barack Obama have begun working in concert with top Democrats in Congress to craft a preliminary legislative agenda that would guide the senator from Illinois should he capture the White House in November. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has assigned her committee chairmen to begin with low-hanging fruit to build confidence and provide a new, young president quick legislative victories, then pivot to more challenging issues, from ending U.S. military involvement in Iraq to broadening health-care coverage. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) said his policy staffs and Obama's have been working together for more than a month. (!)

Posted by: Alan | September 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

September 15, 2008
Can McCain Really Win Pennsylvania?
By Salena Zito

The intelligent question thrown out among strategists for both campaigns is, can John McCain really win Pennsylvania?

Really win it, not pretend to go for it, as Republicans did in 2004, all the while closing the deal in Ohio when no one was looking.

The last Republican presidential candidate to win Pennsylvania was George H.W. Bush, in 1988 -- a win preceded by two Reagans but followed by two Clintons, a Gore and a Kerry. The Kerry win was narrower than the others, however.

Since this year's Pennsylvania primaries, many people have been schooled on the mechanics of how Democrats win this state. Call it the "Rendell rule": Stack up high numbers in the Philly collar counties, hold the losses to a minimum in the other 60, and try to win Allegheny for good measure.

Can Barack Obama pull off a Rendell?

Villanova University political science professor Bob Maranto says political undercurrents are playing against him. "This is an old state, demographically, and some older white voters will be reluctant to vote for a black candidate," he explains, "but there is something more at work. Even if they call themselves independents, most voters more or less automatically vote either Democratic or Republican."

Maranto calculates that the 20 percent or so of voters who really are up for grabs will use information about a candidate's background to make assumptions about his policy views.

Pennsylvanians don't see McCain in the "failed Bush policies" category by which Democrats try to define him. Instead, they see a war hero, a brand that resonates in the blue-collar areas where their unions are trying to persuade them otherwise.

"He is a guy you can depend on," said Tom Miller, 54, of Lancaster, a registered Democrat who is very comfortable voting for McCain. "He has had no problem bucking his own party and he does not ask me to make sacrifices that he isn't willing to make."

Add the stereotypes that some voters hold about black candidates and Obama dilutes the Rendell rule.

So, where can McCain offset traditional Democrat voting blocs?

In Allegheny, Bucks and Chester counties, where a large number of those voters live.

To win Allegheny, McCain must win the entire South Hills area minus Mt. Lebanon. He also must win the new suburban areas around the airport, as well as the Mon Valley, where poorer working white voters live. He can easily sweep the North Hills as well as the small river towns.

Achieve that, and McCain offsets Pittsburgh's black and elite-liberal numbers.

McCain also must win Bucks County, where he should have Sarah Palin establish residency in the large churches in the northern half while he camps out in southern Bucks.

Chester County will be the hardest. McCain won't win West Chester, but the rest of the county -- a one-time Republican stronghold -- is persuadable.

All three counties have healthy-sized veterans populaces, with lots of socially conservative labor-Catholic Democrats -- all voters that professor Maranto views as weaknesses for Obama.

Democrat analyst Larry Ceisler admits problems exist for Obama in counties like Washington, Beaver and Fayette, but he is not quite sold on the idea that McCain can win Allegheny, Chester and Bucks.

The unknown factor in Obama's favor is the latest statewide voter-registration number. Obama state director Craig Schirmer issued a statement last week touting 1 million-plus more registered Democrats than Republicans, double the lead of 2004.

Perhaps the bigger argument is that if McCain is posting Bush 2004 poll numbers in Pennsylvania in the waning days of this election, it indicates that Ohio, Indiana and Michigan are already lost to Obama. Pennsylvania is just that small percentage point more Democrat than her Rust-Belt sisters.

University of Virginia political science professor Larry Sabato says his tentative conclusion is that McCain should not allow the money to run in Pennsylvania unless he has unlimited resources, and instead should look west. His argument: If McCain is close in Pennsylvania, then he already is well above 300 Electoral College votes and won't need it to win.

Salena Zito is a Pittsburgh Tribune-Review editorial page columnist. E-mail her at szito@tribweb.com

Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

The crowd cheered Mc Cain.
If Obama came they might boo him out of the place.

B.O. does better with Germans who gather to listen to music, because the crew out front of home improvement stores won't even show up with Placards for him anymore.

Posted by: dottydo | September 14, 2008 10:34 PM

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Actually I think Obama does best with the Red Army.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Obama's new slogan:

"Washington Post crew we can believe in."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

The crowd cheered Mc Cain.
If Obama came they might boo him out of the place.

B.O. does better with Germans who gather to listen to music, because the crew out front of home improvement stores won't even show up with Placards for him anymore.

Posted by: dottydo | September 14, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

"(M)edia star running mate, Sarah Palin..."
"Media star"
Are you serious?
The (extreme left-wing) so-called mainstream media has engaged in an unprecedented, hysterial hate and bile campaign against Governor Palin. While entertaining at one level to observe the media meltdown, recognizing its very likely counterproductivity, it is nonetheless vile and also very revealing of the Left's moral and intellectual bankruptcy.

Posted by: mdcraig001 | September 14, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain really had a message in 2000, but Bush/Rove beech slapped him so hard that he seems to have lost his mind since then. I really used to like McCain and I certainly would have voted for the guy he used to be, but I can't even belive the guy now running for president is the same person. What the heck is he thinking when he runs ads that are clearly and knowingly untrue. What was he thinking when he picked a completely unqualified VP, especially considering his age and health.

I have heard candidates say somewhat misleading things in ads, or exaggerate, or not say anything at all, but when you are willing to tell lies that anyone who can read a newspaper or surf the web willl know are lies, then it says something about how you see your voters. McCain thinks that his voters simply don't care what he says, or what he plans to do as President, he feels he just has to talk about his POW experience and have Palin read a patriotic speach and his voters won't care.

Posted by: captbilly | September 14, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

So, a lot of other people were POW's too

Posted by: SO | September 14, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

As long as we Dems keep telling the truth and back up our stuff with links, the PUBs will just keep talking to themselves. Of course some will pretend to be DEMs just to try to start something on the blogs, their use to lieing.

Don't worry about Palin, she's had her best days. She'll flame out in about three weeks

Posted by: Think About it | September 14, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?

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From his own words, McCain enjoyed his bombing runs over (north/south?) Vietnam till his shiny jet left him in the mud below. The villagers were not ecstatic to have him drop in for supper, I assume.

From then on, for the young McCain, war games and bombs for others were no longer fun.

McCain's compartmentalized empathy for mankind is not unusual in younth. Sad yes, but indifference for the misery of others is a sentiment furthered by many military machine - kill them to save us? It's worked for thousands of years.

The McCain/Palin slogan "Country first" counts on the same indifferent reaction in voters. Or is one to suppose only Republicans take pride in their land?

Yes, fanatical nationalistic slogans "work". In 1932 they worked for the NSDAP: Deutschland über alles! Literally, country above all else! "Our" country, of course.

Extreme slogans only fan emotions, pushing aside rational consideration. We all know our emotions get us into trouble, often everyday. Any politician screaming "country first" in a rally in Germany to a crowd today would be risking his career & suffer public & international outrage. Why? No one country is ever "first". World is round, yet we all live on the same level plane.

Political slogans, like country (i.e., US) "first" or taller or better than +200 others smacks of the same naive, extreme McCain hubris before he was brought down from the sky ... to land in the mud.

Has McCain changed in his thinking, as he claims? His slogans sound extreme, they exclude & hurt ears & sensibility in others.

In a nuclear world the very last politician the US needs is a self-proclaimed maverick, or a pair of mavericks ... who do not see the misery of others, who pretend to stand taller than others, who claim their might is right, who pretend God is on their side, only.

Posted by: hadeze | September 14, 2008 9:01 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The only way Mccain can get a crowd is go where there is already one. His last outing on his own they booed him and people were chanting "Obama". Mccain ran away and cancelled everything for the rest of the day. Nothing has changed, people don't give a sh&t about Mccain or anything he has to say. He is afraid to try to appear by himself and try to get a crowd again after the other day.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

From his own words, McCain enjoyed his bombing runs over (north/south?) Vietnam till his shiny jet left him in the mud below. The villagers were not ecstatic to have him drop in for supper, I assume.

From then on, for the young McCain, war games and bombs for others were no longer fun.

McCain's compartmentalized empathy for mankind is not unusual in younth. Sad yes, but indifference for the misery of others is a sentiment furthered by many military machine - kill them to save us? It's worked for thousands of years.

The McCain/Palin slogan "Country first" counts on the same indifferent reaction in voters. Or is one to suppose only Republicans take pride in their land?

Yes, fanatical nationalistic slogans "work". In 1932 they worked for the NSDAP: Deutschland über alles! Literally, country above all else! "Our" country, of course.

Extreme slogans only fan emotions, pushing aside rational consideration. We all know our emotions get us into trouble, often everyday. Any politician screaming "country first" in a rally in Germany to a crowd today would be risking his career & suffer public & international outrage. Why? No one country is ever "first". World is round, yet we all live on the same level plane.

Political slogans, like country (i.e., US) "first" or taller or better than +200 others smacks of the same naive, extreme McCain hubris before he was brought down from the sky ... to land in the mud.

Has McCain changed in his thinking, as he claims? His slogans sound extreme, they exclude & hurt ears & sensibility in others.

In a nuclear world the very last politician the US needs is a self-proclaimed maverick, or a pair of mavericks ... who do not see the misery of others, who pretend to stand taller than others, who claim their might is right, who pretend God is on their side, only.



Posted by: hadeze | September 14, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

To Obama, the DNC, Super Delegates, Donna Brazille, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Ted and Caroline Kennedy & MSM,

Thank you for SHOVING Obama down the throats of the Democrat Party.
You GAVE the Presidency to McCain.
Again, Thank you.

Posted by: Thanks! | September 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Wowweee!!!

I never had that much intelligence to support to understand Democrats.

Barack admitted getting high and using "blow". (He is imperfect)

He doesnt have much experience. Palin can see Russia from her bedroom window!

He hangs around some pretty scary people. Next month is Holloween

He disrespects successful women that are incompetent.

I can't overlook what the people who like him are throwing at Palin (The Temptress). It just stinks and I am a party pooper.

Goodbye Obama, Hello McCain/"Girlfriend" '08
(and never Hillary in '12)

Posted by: Peter from Dover NH | September 14, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow.....

I was never a democrat supporting him for president.

Barack admitted getting high and using "blow".

He doesnt have much experience.

He hangs around some pretty scary people.

He disrespects successful women that are his incompetent.

I can't overlook what the people who like him are throwing at Palin (The Temptress). It just stinks and I am not in that club.

Goodbye Obama, Hello McCain/"Girlfriend" '08
(and never Hillary in '12)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Some US media like to present religion outside of the US proper as terrorist-infected. And why not, after all, our coins brazenly state God is on "our" side? Only? However, seems this election run-up again demonstrates a US much more interested in a politician's religion and sexy appeal than economic issues.

God in the above before money in our pockets? No wonder US banks (Fanny Mae & Freddy & Lehman & so on ) are heading down the drain ... with our dollars & houses.

God never cared much about what's in the fridge to eat or where believers lived, as long as they come to him once dead.

Posted by: hadeze | September 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Boy, tunes59, that's stretching it some, don't you think? Obama said that when some people get bitter they turn to religion, or they start bashing immigrants or others who are not like them. Nowhere does he say that his religion is better than theirs. To me it is shocking that you would be so offended by a non-issue of a thing like this, and have no problem with the slaughter of over a million people in Iraq, the use of torture, the curtailing of American liberties, the outsourcing of jobs, or the incredible debt this administration has run up. These non-issues are what they use to control you and get your votes. After how many years in power, have your GOP leaders ever repealed Row vs Wade or given you prayer in school. Why do you think that is??

Posted by: waze | September 14, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow.....

I was a democrat really supporting him for president until I ran across these comments. If this is the crowd that Obama attracts count me out.

I overlooked that Barack admitted getting high and using "blow".

I overlooked that he doesnt have much experience.

I overlooked that he hangs around some pretty scary people.

I overlooked that he disrespects successful woment that are his opposition.

I can't overlook what the people who like him are throwing at Palin. It just stinks and I am not in that club.

Goodbye Obama, Hello McCain/Palin '08 (and maybe Hillary in '12)

Posted by: Peter from Dover NH | September 14, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama is right about some people being bitter and clinging to guns and religion. They've lost their jobs, they've lost their homes, they've lost their self-esteem, all that's left is to get behind the latest GOP candidate strutting around threatening the rest of the world. Got news for you people: after 8 years of Bush, strutting around is about the only defense we have left. Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

That's why the McCain campaign has decided McCain and Palin must campaign together. Not because he needs to be there in case she says something stupid (she'll just read what she's told to read) but because it would be an embarrassment to have her at an event with 5,000 screaming evangelicals (who didn't know who she was 2 weeks ago) and him at an empty town hall with 200 sourpusses.

Posted by: Not Fooled | September 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

"Mr. Obama thinks my faith is inferior to his.." Please show me where Obama, a Protestant, says ANY faith is inferior to his? Where do you people come up with this stuff?
Posted by: waze | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM

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Quote “So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, and they cling to guns, or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” Barrack Obama
http://www.zombietime.com/obama_visits_billionaires_row/ Text and audio

Mr. Obama thinks my religion makes me bitter while his brings hope and vision thus my religion must be inferior.

Posted by: tunes59 | September 14, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:04 PM

How is this for a discussion of issues. How about equal pay for women. Why does Obama pay his female staffers less than male counterparts? If he cared about us he would treat us equally.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=32005

Posted by: tunes59 | September 14, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Obviously some poster believe that this election is some sort of sporting event. Go team? I have yet to find a single Conservative poster anywhere who can discuss issues. It is all some kind of game to them - just a lot of name calling and childish posturing. I have a very strong feeling that these nitwits are so numerous that they bring this Country down before long. These people think the Military Industrial Complex; the Pharmaceutical Industries; the Global Bankers and Wall Street care about them??? Man what suckers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Politico-

Independents swing toward McCain


By JOHN P. AVLON | 9/14/08 1:30 PM EST

In an Ideas piece, Avlon says that independents will determine the election -- and they may be for McCain.

"Independent voters — the largest and fastest-growing segment of the American electorate — were always going to determine the winner of this election.

And in contrast to past contests like 2004, where independents viewed the choice between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry as a vote for the candidate they disliked least, independents had a dream campaign in ‘08: two compelling nominees who ran against the polarizing establishments of their own parties with explicitly post-partisan appeals. It was a year in which Karl Rove’s play-to-the-base politics seemed to be on the ash heap of history.

In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

Since the GOP convention and his selection of the Alaska governor as his running mate, McCain has changed a months-long tie among independents into a 52 to 37 percent advantage. Support for McCain among self-described "conservative Democrats" has jumped 10 points, to 25 percent, signaling the shift among swing voters to McCain..."



Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Obviously some poster believe that this election is some sort of sporting event. Go team? I have yet to find a single Conservative poster anywhere who can discuss issues. It is all some kind of game to them - just a lot of name calling and childish posturing. I have a very strong feeling that these nitwits are so numerous that they bring this Country down before long. These people think the Military Industrial Complex; the Pharmaceutical Industries; the Global Bankers and Wall Street care about them??? Man what suckers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

While Nascar is great, Team McCain needs to get positive and organize on-line the way Team Obama has today. At http://www.boppoll.com, McCaqin's Bop count is up by 70,000 since this morning. It seems that Team Obama is now getting 5 to 10 people at a time to get there bops in. 10 people can register 600 bops per minute. Come on Team McCain! Get the bops out!

Posted by: acarponzo | September 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

It really doesnt matter what anyone writes here...Minds are already made up or changing.....and they are changing fast for

McCain/Palin

Sorry guys....you peaked too early

Posted by: Mclover | September 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Tunes59,
"Mr. Obama thinks my faith is inferior to his.." Please show me where Obama, a Protestant, says ANY faith is inferior to his? Where do you people come up with this stuff? FOX? Limbaugh? John McCain may be a great guy. But remember this. If he should die during his term, the entire War on Terrorism would be under the direction of a soccer mom with 18 months experience as Gov. She would be in command of the entire military. We'd have a former cheerleader in charge if Russia or China started a war. If that doesn't scare you to death, then FOX has muddled your brain beyond saving.

Posted by: waze | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Friday, September 12, 2008
He'd Rather Win The Election Than Portray The Truth

John McCain ran an honorable campaign in 2000.

He was beaten due to scurrilous dishonesty.

He's learned the lesson well.

He's hired those who did this to him.

And now, they are doing it again.

McCain has said that he would rather win the war than win the election.

In fact, as we have seen time after time this week, he would apparently rather win the election than convey the truth.

This approach brought us George W. Bush--and the dissembling, half-truths, omissions and distortions to come. And, so, brought us the tragic consequences that have followed for individuals and families across the nation and the world.

As Americans, we often have short memories and powerful impulses. We tend to act on the latter. This is why history can repeat itself.

Remember. Remember how driven by emotion many became last time. By impulse. Without thought. Remember the statements that were made. Remember the realities that followed. Remember.

You can feel what you feel now--anger, aggression, glee, without examination of the underlying truth--for a moment.

You will live with the consequences for years, decades to come--perhaps for the rest of your life.

Remember the thoughts and feelings that preceded these last 8 years.

Remember.

According to the non-partisan FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html), McCain has strained the truth about health care. About small business. About education. About taxes. About corporate welfare. About energy independence. About free trade.

We've seen this before.

We were distracted from the truth in just the same way before.

And we've lived the resulting damage--for the past 8 years.

This is the way we need to change the nation: By realizing what is true, rather than realizing what emotes us for the moment.

Think.

Remember.

And act accordingly for your future.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

What John McCain sorely lacks is a vision for the future and what Obama has is such a vision.

Under Obama the American economy would be shifted to one which produces good paying jobs and will help strengthen the dwindling middle class. There will be some temporary relief but there would not be the same expansion of the economy which has been producing the poor paying jobs of the last eight years.

McCain who is the purveyor of no change has adopted as his theme he is for change. What we need is change that will touch the lives of ordinary Americans. Just as Obama wants to lower your taxes while McCain wants to do nothing to help your tax situation, Obama wants to be a creator of good paying jobs. Mccain wants to stimulate the current economy which means be a creator of poor paying jobs. It is up to us to put in the job a man who knows what he is doing. McCain is a man who will bo nothing so he attacks the man who will do so good and stimulates anger instead of good paying jobs.


Posted by: Ronnn | September 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I think the McCain campaign needs to hire some stand-ins, or at least some cut-out fake people to make this senile old fart come across looking the least bit viable.

Posted by: :-) | September 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

So he has to have a car race to draw 90,000. they at least cheered for him!
http://www.bop-o-rama.com

60 bops per minute! X 10 people = 600bpm

Posted by: acarponzo | September 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Fellow Americans_
I have concluded that McCain is not our daddy, and he's not going to make everything O.K.

Posted by: Charles | September 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN AFFAIR ACCUSATION PALIN CHEATED ON HER HUSBAND?
http://www.theveep.com

THE PALIN DUI?
http://www.duihelpguide.com

Levi Johnson The self Proclaimed Redneck and the Stud who got Sarah Palins Daughter Pregnant.
http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I am a small town American and if you are a member of the Obama Nation do not bother to even read my post because my opinion does not count.

John's connection to real America is wonderful. As one of millions of Americans who grew up in a small town of less than 5,000 I find John to be a person who understands my values and issues. Mr. Obama like the Anonymous poster (Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:57 PM ) thinks my small town is the enemy of America. Mr. Obama thinks my faith is inferior to his, thinks the 2nd Amendment does not apply to me, and thinks these things make me and my small town bitter. In small towns we care for each other, we do not live in a system of social slavery and wait for a community organizer to come along and tell us what to think and what to do. I am proud of John's record of service and his actions in public or in private. If you love this country and want to see a stark difference between the two candidates look here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfRwpcFEA0

And if you want to know what type of man John McCain is when no one is looking read this... http://www.slate.com/id/2188545/

Posted by: Tunes59 | September 14, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Lawrence, what exactly does your comment have to do with the article?

Posted by: Serge Birbrair | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Location: Dillingham Name: PALIN, SARAH, MS
DOB: 02/11/1964 Case #: 3DI-93-00249CR
Case Type: State Case Title:ST VS PALIN,SARAH
Attorney 1: Date Filed: 06/26/1993
Attorney 2: Type Person: Defendant
Criminal - Offense: CRIM NEG FAIL REG NT Criminal - Statute: 5AAC06.370(A) (Registration - Bristol Bay - Permit-Register Sites)
Criminal - Dispo: No Contest Plea Criminal - Date Dispo: 08/25/1993
Criminal - Felony/Misdemeanor: Violation Criminal - SIS Date Dispo:

Posted by: Lawrence | September 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

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