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No Direct Attack from Clinton on Palin -- Yet

By Anne E. Kornblut
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday night put out just her second statement mentioning Gov. Sarah Palin -- but continued to hold back from the harshest attacks.

"The two party conventions showcased vastly different directions for our country. Senator Obama and Senator Biden offered the new ideas and positive change America needs and deserves after eight years of failed Republican leadership. Senator McCain and Governor Palin do not," Clinton said.

"After listening to all the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families, provide quality affordable health care for all Americans, guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, restore our nation's leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces. So, to slightly amend my comments from Denver: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN."

Clinton has been exceptionally quiet since the selection of just the second female vice presidential nominee in history. With some of her supporters anxiously hoping Clinton will step up to push Palin back, she is scheduled to make stops in central Florida on Monday on Sen. Barack Obama's behalf. But the trip is not, according to people in both camps, designed as a direct response to Palin. An Obama aide said the trip was "in the works for weeks" and two Clinton advisers said she will continue to focus on issues, such as the economy.

If Clinton does elaborate on her Palin remarks -- either this weekend, when she also has public appearances, or on Monday -- it will be to make a larger point about McCain, not to burrow down into a debate over feminism, sexism or women in politics, advisers said.

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 4, 2008; 11:10 PM ET
Categories:  Barack Obama , Hillary Rodham Clinton , Sarah Palin  
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New York Democrats in Action!

My friends the picture of Hillary in this article does not look like a Woman who is afraid of the Pit Bull with Lip Stick, Mr. Schmit, Mr. Rove and McCain/Bush!

Hillary Clinton, New York Democrats have Sarah Palin in their site at Labor Day powow.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_hillary_clinton_new_york_democrats_have_.html

"No way, no how, no McCain, no Palin." Senator Hillary Clinton

New York Democrats say vote for Change we can believe in ...

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: RFK | September 7, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I for one hope Hillary rearranges Sarah Palin's face during this campaign (but NICELY and tactfully, of course). Now, don't charge me with male chauvinism, sexism, and misogyny. I would have GLADLY voted for Hillary had she won the nomination. I've a news flash for you: however noble it may be to smash the glass ceiling, this election is now even more clearly about something else. It's about doing what's right for the country. McCain-Palin are not right for the country.

Truth is, all Hillary has to do is recite the litany of her (Hillary's) positions on the issues and draw the stark contrast with Palin's positions. So Hillary can be genteel while disemboweling Palin (who's the one, after all, who claims to be a pit bull). In fact, it should be no sport at all. I just hope she does it, and does it with the appropriate mix of gusto and gentility.

With Hillary's having voiced her support of Obama BASED ON POLITICAL PRINCIPLES, women who supported Hillary who now support McCain because of Palin will have to confront their own hypocrisy in the mirror every day.

Posted by: old white male democrat in WV | September 6, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

It has been reported that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be seized by the Feds this weekend - before they fail.

Nice going with the de-regulation GOP.

All you folks in economic doodoo out there in the rust belt states - if you vote for right wing "values" again instead of your pocketbooks, you deserve everything you get. Let Johnnie boy's "patriotism" put food on your table, send your kid to college, pay your medical bills, help you keep you home. Stay with that church and keep your gun - you will need both the soup kitchen and a means to hunt for food.

You will get no more sympathy for me.

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

The statistics show that the liberal left controls the uversities, cnn,abc, cbs,msncbc,public radio & tv, hollywood, most big city newspapers--new york times,washington post, la times etc. The deomcrats should be 25points ahead of Mc Cain.

Posted by: Edgar Alan Poe | September 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Hillary needs to speak up in her own behalf, not for Obama's sake. Her reputation and her legacy are at stake. So is her political future. If her followers forsake her for another, then many will not come back.

Posted by: 2mature2bHornswoggled | September 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh im sure it will sting, when Clinton sinks her Claws in Sarah. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee!! not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world.

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 6, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"No We Can't" (break the glass ceiling that is)

That's what Obama has made REALITY by not choosing the best Democrat to be his VP, Hillary Clinton! How could he mop the floor with her, pimp her out for his campaign, and then not even put her on the ticket? Was it arrogance, was it fear, was it spite? How about all of the above?

The Biden choice was one made out of fear and inexperience.

So here's how to fix the problem:
Vote for McCain / Palin this round. Why not? Lots of other women will!

Here's why:
Once you smash the glass ceiling by voting in Gov. Palin as your VP, the ticket for 2012 will most surely look like this:
Hillary vs. Palin vs. Napalitano vs. ?

Give Hillary a chance, sooner! Vote McCain / Palin 2008!

Posted by: Jackie | September 6, 2008 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Palin will never be acceptable to the alleged liberals

Sarah Palin's secret weapon, one that the media and political elite will never fathom, is that she is likeable. Sure, she has absolutely unreconstructed conservative policies. The worst part of Palin's speech was when she started on all the old Republican memes - fear big government! The Democrats will tax you to death! Drill for oil and to hell with the environment! In spite of, or sadly, perhaps even because of all that, she is a woman that many Americans would be happy to have a beer or even a mooseburger with.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2008/0906/1220629527916.html

Posted by: Troilus1 | September 6, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

in deep study of me and my payments, i am demanding all the ice that has been stolen from between my thighs be reapplied to the polar-fleece factories where the bipolar bears are fleeced.

snake oil must be drilled, drilled, and redrilled....over the corpses of all creatures of the sea, all the postborn slave fodder as well....


hillary shall join me at my side, as soon as we get stitched-up in Juno, the new Vegas of the Uhroar-ee- Boreeeealice.

reality has never had such a bizarre element of impending apocalypse!

Posted by: forestbloggod | September 5, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has done enough for Senator Purple Lips and his campaign. Barry Hussein needs to be a man and fight his own battles. Maybe people were right when they said he is not capable of sealing the deal.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 5, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

i am a new acolyte of palintology. i was branded by the tongues of chuck norris, karl rove, jackoff abramoff, and ronald Mcdumsfeld.

i will get naked and play hucky with anyone else if they are in an airport bathroom stall.

i will take messages from God or Cheney, whomelver is present, and will loosen my nukes in Pro-family certitude.

i will serve our vast alaksan roadkill surplus to the new federal system of detainment centers for union members, hippies, teachers, and especially, the innocent postborn children of everyone.

i will keep having babies into my 80s and let my aides care for them with formulas i shall invent from labs in space.


i will allow human hunting to resume in the lower 48, after i return from washington.


i will name my husband as oil minister for eternity, cuz he works for Britian.


i shall be ice-fishing on mars with tom cruise and selleck with thermonucklar deevices, so leave a message with God if you have some cash to wire me.


Speaking in tongues is fun when you are a hyrdra!

i will study my erasable past and fix the facets later...with a slab of commandment cement over the entire tundra of the the the euniverse!!!

Posted by: palintologyst | September 5, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

i am a new acolyte of palintology. i was branded by the tongues of chuck norris, karl rove, jackoff abramoff, and ronald Mcdumsfeld.

i will get naked and play hucky with anyone else if they are in an airport bathroom stall.

i will take messages from God or Cheney, whomelver is present, and will loosen my nukes in Pro-family certitude.

i will serve our vast alaksan roadkill surplus to the new federal system of detainment centers for union members, hippies, teachers, and especially, the innocent postborn children of everyone.

i will keep having babies into my 80s and let my aides care for them with formulas i shall invent from labs in space.


i will allow human hunting to resume in the lower 48, after i return from washington.


i will name my husband as oil minister for eternity, cuz he works for Britian.


i shall be ice-fishing on mars with tom cruise and selleck with thermonucklar deevices, so leave a message with God if you have some cash to wire me.


Speaking in tongues is fun when you are a hyrdra!

i will study my erasable past and fix the facets later...with a slab of commandment cement over the entire tundra of the the the euniverse!!!

Posted by: palintologyst | September 5, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

The dung worm called payment produced gas from his nether regions in a posting below.

Hey dung worm, all the media prostitutes have already pimped in favor of your slimy hero Nobama. So, I guess you are used to seeing people getting paid off and prostitutes selling off.

As for your whine about HRC supporters, you can chew on that on Nov 5 when exit polls show that 1/4 to 1/3 of HRC supporters voted McCain, and we were the primary swing block that made sure your slimy empty suit did n't eventually make it.

It is called comeuppance, gutter rat!

Posted by: intcamd1 | September 5, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't know for sure, but I think Palin and Clinton are really going to at it once this thing really gets started.

In this corner, everything she hates in her opponent's party!

In the other corner .... the other one, same story.

Even if Hillary is pist off at Obama, do you really thing she's going to let that freak Palin anywhere near the whitehouse if she can help it?

This is going to be good. I'll get the beer, you turn on the tv.

Posted by: ahh, maybe | September 5, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Clinton is useless. She is not going to do anything to help Obama. She's probably sending Palin flowers behind closed doors.

Posted by: DW | September 5, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

A new political star was born Wednesday night. Sarah Palin is a natural. Brilliant choice by John McCain.

What a joy it is to see the media and D.C. insiders caught by surprise. Now, Obama wants Hillary and other women to help him with the women's vote. Too little, too late from the sexist pig Obama. Obama should have shown Hillary (and Bill), Geraldine Ferraro and ALL women respect. It's too late now.

The Wash Post and Sally Quinn(I am not a real journalist, I just shagged the old boss Ben Bradlee and I hate all women who are more successful than me, like Hillary and Sarah Palin) should be ashamed of their sexist coverage of Palin. Do any of you old farts actually think to ask a man, any man, say perhaps Barack, ANY questions about why he's running for President with two young children of his own? No, you don't ever do that. It's only WOMEN you attack. SEXISM LIVES!

Barack Obama has yet to be vetted. Bring it on.

A missed opportunity for the Democrats in failing women in 2008 and failing to nominate the most qualified and most electable candidate, Hillary Clinton who won the popular vote, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history! Hillary Clinton should be the nominee. Now, the Dems are stuck with an unqualified and unelectable Obama/Biden. Damn.

For this Democrat, it's McCain 08 and Hillary 2012. Country first, party second.

Hold the DNC accountable for the 2008 campaign debacle. Hold the DNC accountable for the rampant sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranschisement and subversion of democracy in 2008 by the DNC, Obama, and the media.

At least the GOP had the grace and political smarts to acknowledge the accomplishements of Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro. The DNC is too stupid to celebrate both Bill and Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro.

Missed opportunities indeed.

visit

realdemocratsusa.org

taking back our part, one neighborhood at a time

Posted by: kk | September 5, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

How much does karl rove pay the republican stooges to post here?

This is the kind of thing Rove does, he's a genius at it. He covers all bases, a little money, here, a little trash there. He's the got the christians fawning all over Palin, do you folks know what he really thinks of you?

Let me just put it this way - I have a higher opinion of you than he does.

So what I'm really wondering here is -- how many of the I'm A Hillary Supporter Woman For McCain are really fat pathetic little republican men sitting in their mom's basement typing this crap from a cut-n-paste sheet prepared for them by the paymaster?

Isn't this cutting into your porno downloads? Wow, just how much is Rove paying you?

Oh wait a minute, he's told you that you're important, and not just the halfprick runt you really are. Gotta admire the man, covers all bases.

Posted by: payment | September 5, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Why should Sen CLinton attack Palin?

Why does Sen CLinton need to anything for the slimy Nobama?

Why don't prostitute media rascals like yourself go and rail that Edwards is not doing more for slimy Nobama? The smarmy Edwards and the slimy NObama double teamed on Sen Clinton in the Iowa and NH debates. Why is the slimy Nobama hanging onto the coattails of Sen CLinton and not begging his dear friend Edwards for more help?

Why do media prostitutes and the gutter rat groupies of Nobama think Sen Clinton even needs to spit in the direction of Nobama? In the past, Kennedy and Hart hardly shok hands with Carter and Mondale; no one faulted them then. ANd those two fellas did not even steal the nomination, nor did they use race and sex cards trying to steal the nomination. The slimy Obama did, and yet both Clintons were magnanimous and went out of their way to support Nobama, and the prostitute media still has a problem.

The slimy Nobama deserves no help from the Clintons; and the guter rats groupies of Nomaba deserve to live in filth forever.

Posted by: intcamd1 | September 5, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

The GOP wants to change Washington how?

By selecting a VP from the most corrupt Republican state party in the country.

A candidate who is stonewalling an ethics investigation into her misconducted just like G.W. has done for the past 4 years in Washington

Her very selection puts the lie McCain's words about ethics and experience.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Hello - Sheeple!

We are the puppet masters .. the shadowy group that controls every aspect of your life without you even knowing it.

We are glad to see that you are falling for our “change choices” of “Obama” and “Sarah”. These are our stooges who like Clinton & Bush, will not offer any thing different but will wear different party labels while continuing to enrich our coffers thru big government programs / contracts. If you pick “Obama”, the money will come from alternative energy, education, children’s programs, healthcare etc. If you pick “Sarah” (McCain is not the leader in the ticket anymore … another diversionary tactic by us!) , it will be from war, contracts, privatization of congressional toilet cleaning etc.

Meanwhile, do a good job of arguing about pastors, mooses, back alley abortions, vietnam war, flag pin, teenage daughter and other worthless diversions that our media & talk radio propaganda masters while we keep filling our swiss bank accounts with your hard earned money. Say baa … baa… baaaa….

Ha … Ha … Ha …

(Note : The names and issues in quotes can be replaced with any other major candidates you voted in the primaries, and there will still be one winner - us, The Puppet Masters)

Posted by: The Puppet Masters | September 5, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Let us go back to Obama's interview when he stated that he is confident he will get hillary supporters votes. He is just not sure she will get his supporters.How utterly arrogant! Please vote on the issues.Vote on a candidate that speak up his mind. John Mccain's experience as POW does not qualify him to be a president but it does show integrity and honor that clearly Obama lacks

Posted by: CVO | September 5, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"Sexism, and the people who support it"

Classic strawman argument... I say that the GOP's cries of sexism is wrong as ONE example of my point and it therefore must automatically mean that i'm in favor of how the media treated Clinton, even though i never mentioned ANYTHING that even suggests such a thing... There is absolutely no chance that i might consider the attacks on Clinton wrong... great way to put words in people's mouths...

Granted though, if i recall i barely detected any sexism in Obama's campaign (just as i barely, if at all, detected any racism from hillary)... they attacked issues like the iraq war, and her gas tax holiday, but i don't recall her gender ever being mentioned... I've seen the MEDIA make what sounds like sexist remarks, and i've even heard it from obama supporters... however the Obama is not in control of either of those groups and thus can not be held responsible for it... Just as voters can throw away their votes to vote against their interests they are free to be as bigoted as they want... the attacks that Clinton faced from the media and from opposing-supporters would have happened even if Edwards or any other male candidate was running against her... the candidates do not control the media or their supporters, especially the more idiotic ones (when ever any person has millions of follows, their always gonna get atleast a few idiots)

If we hold Obama responsible for Media and supporter attacks on Clinton, then we'd have to hold clinton responsible for her voters like the few who had made some outright racist remarks in regards to Blacks or muslims... I guess if we use that horribly flawed logic then i guess Clinton is as racist as Obama is sexist.

Posted by: Monte | September 5, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I am switching my vote to McCain/Palin. I am extremely excited to see a woman on the ticket.

Posted by: SandyClaws | September 5, 2008 4:18 PM The same here Sandy. we are all excited about a woman being on the ticket.Specially a qualified one like Palin. now if we took a look an another article related to Senator Obama gives black republican heartburn because they will end up voting for him to make history . You know that it is our turn to make history with a brilliant hard working woman like Palin. Not every democrat is worth being our president. We simply can not afford four years of Jimmy Carter either .. just to make history !

Posted by: CVO | September 5, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is experienced and ready to lead but obama is not that is the biggest problem for democrats

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Dana Brazil is the one responsible for overtunning the democratic primary process and select obama. now all the democrats will go down this fall. Congress has 14% rating.. jeez these folks should be ashamed of themselves

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I hope Hillary is not so wrapped up in her "feminist" cloak that she does not see she will be used as a tool to help destroy another woman.

Gloria Steinem and her groupies have now become their own enemy ... sexist and condescending towards women. This group will ensure a woman never inhabits the white house ... unless she is a wife.

Palin has a higher approval rating than Obama and McCain, and she still isn't good enought for old Gloria.

I'm backing Palin, and I'm proud as hell to have the opportunity.

Posted by: Backing Palin. | September 5, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Dems "selected" obama not elected. Hillary is the real winner with 18 million votes... stupid dem deligates.

Posted by: Mat | September 5, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Hillary would have been a great first women president... foolish democrats passed over

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Palinbots: google scott alan richter. Have a nice day.

Posted by: slap me hard | September 5, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama missed his chance for real change.

He has proven he can not reach across to members of his own party, that being Hillary, and it will cost him the Whitehouse.

It is he who is "Out Of Touch."

Illinois voter for McCain

Posted by: Teri Towse | September 5, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama missed his chance for real change.

He has proven he can not reach across to members of his own party, that being Hillary, and it will cost him the Whitehouse.

It is he who is "Out Of Touch."

Illinois voter for McCain

Posted by: Teri Towse | September 5, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin is on tape contradicting herself about why she fire Whooten the guy who was investigating her brother-in-law.
She's praising him one week about tackling a drinking issue and then fire him a few weeks later for not doing enough about the same issue. I would like to see if she sent emails telling him he he wasn't doing a good job.
Its doesn't look good for her and she can't blame Obama camp because it happened before she was selected VP. The story was done by a cbs station in Alaska.

Posted by: On Tape | September 5, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

If anyone watches "King of the Hill" on FOX, you must have noticed the similarity between crazy Grandpa Cotton, (the old WW II vet), and McCain. You think they based the character on McCain?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

SARAH: 1. Get OUT of my womb. 2. Stop shoving Creationism into our schools when we need SCIENCE to get our nation competitive. 3. Executive experience, of a town of 8000 and a state with a smaller population than Chicago?
4. You went to HOW many colleges in five years? SIX? 5. You threw two of your children under the wheels for your career. 6. WHEN did you get your first passport? 7. Your cruelty to animals is sickening. 8.Strident nasty speaker. 9.You appeal to lowest common demoninator bigots. 10. You are a book banner. 11. You have no vision and little education. 12. You endanger women, our children, our Constitution, our standing with other nations, and our country itself. ENOUGH!

Posted by: Take Sarah down, Hillary | September 5, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

There is no reason for Hillary to attack Palin. The media will entertain us without Hillary getting her fingerprints on any negative attack.

The media just needs to continue showing us photos of an old, senile McCain standing next to a young, alive Palin. We'll get the picture: "McCain, Dead Man Walking."

Posted by: Old Man McCain | September 5, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Is it me, or are people with the word "moderate" in their name never seem to be. I reckon it's similar to how communist dictatorships almost always use the word "Democratic" when they rename their countries. Just sayin...

Posted by: Ingvy | September 5, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Diane72, please keep posting. You show the true colors of McCain/Palin supporters (but are afraid to say it) so well. Your pearls of wisdom are eye opening. Truly. Diane72 speaks for McCain/Pahlin supporters!!!

Posted by: S | September 5, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NM Moderate |
It is not being hypocritical. Jimmy Carter never said he was in favor of overturning Roe v Wade. He also never said that he favored the teaching of Creationism in public schools (although he probably believes in creationism personally).

--------------------------------
Then how is Palin's view any different:
Per Fox News website: Palin said during her 2006 gubernatorial campaign that she would not push the state Board of Education to add creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum, or look for creationism advocates when she appointed board members.

She has kept this pledge, according to the Associated Press.

As I said .... Democrats ... hypocrites.

Posted by: I see BS | September 5, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

4 years of Carter.

8 years of Bush.

After 4 years of Carter, quite a few Dems turned around and voted for Reagan.

Now some of you Republicans can return the favor and FINALLY vote for a Dem.

Otherwise, you have no place to throw around the "hypocrite" label.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

jimwhite1,

Thanks -- that clarifies a little.

For a guy though with more than a little smarts, you sure have some nutty political views. I mean REALLY crazy -- barely grounded in reality.

Dems are baby killers and "hate" the troops? What is this the late 1960s?

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

UGH!

The only reason the media is so eager to see Hillary make a jab at Palin is because they want a catfight to bring in the ratings.

It's disgusting because we'd never see this kind of article if Hillary and Palin were men.

Posted by: Tirade | September 5, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy Carter quote: "I've never been convinced, if you let me inject my Christianity into it, that Jesus Christ would approve abortion."

Democrats .... hypercrits ... all of you.

Posted by: I know bs when i see it | September 5, 2008 5:07 PM

It is not being hypocritical. Jimmy Carter never said he was in favor of overturning Roe v Wade. He also never said that he favored the teaching of Creationism in public schools (although he probably believes in creationism personally).
You see, Democrats can have very conservative views in their own personal lives and a moral code that they live by (such as Jimmy Carter). These same, very moral and conservative people, can have more liberal views when it comes to public policy. In other words, just becasue I think it is right for me - it doesn't mean that that should be the law of the land. That is what Democrats stand for - freedom!

Posted by: NM Moderate | September 5, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Dear Carlaclaws,

Do you revel in your negroness? Are you as Biden would say, "clean and articulate"?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

No attack from Clinton yet? Maybe she's waiting to get vetted.

Posted by: Larry | September 5, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh please, enough with the "she'll do away with abortion", "she's to religious", blah, blah, blah.....

If you Dems are so opposed to pro-life people and religious people .... could you please explain why you pushed Jimmy Carter down our throats?????

Jimmy Carter quote: "I've never been convinced, if you let me inject my Christianity into it, that Jesus Christ would approve abortion."

Democrats .... hypercrits ... all of you.

Posted by: I know bs when i see it | September 5, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Hillary would be smart to wait awhile on any strong attacks. The internet is boiling with Palin stories and rumors and no sign of it letting up. She may not even be the nominee in a week.

Posted by: Paul | September 5, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

And while I am a Democrat - I am being a radical feminist and voting for woman because I have the opporutnity to do so.


Posted by: Hillary Supporter for Palin | September 5, 2008 4:08 PM

You are a true feminist! Voting for someone who stands for everything you despise just because you share the same anatomy and chromosomes - that really is liberating!

Posted by: NM Moderate | September 5, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Air Force

Foward observer.

1989-

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

JimWhite1,

Which branch of service? Where did you serve?

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72, what an ignorant comment for you to make about Michelle Obama.

She has more intelligence AND class than Palin.

You obviously have neither!


Posted by: Cyndi in Ohio | September 5, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"Anybody else love to see Hillary vs Sarah in 2012?"

NO, I want to see Hillary (as Prez) and Sarah (as VP). Together, they could walk on water...

And run as Independents.

Posted by: wodstock69 | September 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Unless Clinton takes over 24/7 the Obama/Biden campaign, they are in peril. She needs to be there for all personal appearances, and completely embrace the candidates. For some odd reason, a cloud of negativity has settled on the pair, and Bill and Hillary need to work to remove it, and they are the only ones who can. Obama and Biden need to be completely associated with the Clintons, otherwise we have a real problem. In other words, they need to be the Virtual Candidates.

Posted by: fly | September 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Dear:JP2


Dear sir I was in the desert 6 times in 5 years and still don't whine about my experince..

Love

Dubs and buds

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Dear sequoia:

Now that your done with your Chisrtain hate and your stance on how Obama 08 is going to change the world.. It is people like you that I actually think that I am in hell or just stuck in traffic.. But thankfully not a Democract or watching that game from last night...

Time for happy hour..

Love

Dubs

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

jimwhite1,

I've had friends in the desert who are now voting Dem after the experience of Republican "leadership" in Washington.

I have friends in Jersey and in New York that will never again vote for a Republican because of the way that the Republican leadership has exploited 9/11.

The GOP -- its supporters -- AND especially its leadership -- HAVE NO STANDING anymore on the issue of morality.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Where does it say that Obama WANTS Hillary Clinton to attack Palin in that way?

This article is just noting that Hillary hasn't done so yet. Nothing else.


And all those women that want to vote for McCain because Sarah Palin is a woman is JUST AS DISTURBING as blacks wanting to vote for Obama just because he is black.

Posted by: tenk | September 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

SandyClaws, you're pretty easy to please, aren't you? Put a woman on the ticket and you're there! Doesn't much matter if it's Republican, Democrat, Green, Communist...

Either that or you're a Republican and you aren't switching your vote at all.

Posted by: DB | September 5, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I am switching my vote to McCain/Palin. I am extremely excited to see a woman on the ticket.

Posted by: SandyClaws | September 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The loss of civil liberites are not the Dems the ones, who want to take away the rught to bear arms? Are they the one who want to crush "in God we trust" aren't they. Please tell me they are not the ones who hate our troops and support the terrorist rights.. aren't they huh huh? The Democracts believe that the terrorist have more right then the troops.. Why do the democracts hate the military so much?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"San Franciscan"

-- More like "Republican Liar".

Please, save your crocodile tears for suckers who might believe them -- you know the folks over at RedState or FreeRepublic.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is a smart woman.

I wil be proud to voite for Sarah Palin - I am a woman who has longed to have the chance to vote for a woman for executive leadership. I was out of the country in 1984 and missed my chance then.

And while I am a Democrat - I am being a radical feminist and voting for woman because I have the opporutnity to do so.

Posted by: Hillary Supporter for Palin | September 5, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

What a Joke! Obama camp & his supporters denied Hillary a roll of VP. Now, they want her to be an attack dog! If he had the gut to put down and insult Hillary! Be a man and do the same to Palin! :-)

I think he won't dare because he is afraid of losing an election!

Obama rather attack the woman of my own party because in the end, they will be submissive to him anyway rather than poking at the woman of the other party. What a coward!

Posted by: San Franciscan | September 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else seen the video of McCain at the KKK rally in Arizona? I hear it shows him in full Klan robes (those of a senior Klan leader), with his hood in hand.
I hear the video will be released before November on YouTube.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans' policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling rapidly.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies.

Republican deregulation brought about fraud in mortgage lending and dangerous financial instruments which have collapsed the housing market, leaving a million or more homeowners facing foreclosure. The financial system is in disarray and might collapse from insolvency.

The trade and budget deficits have exploded. The US trade deficit is larger than the combined trade deficits of every deficit country in the world.

The US can no longer finance its wars or its own government and relies on foreign loans to function day to day. To pay for its consumption, the US sells its existing assets--companies, real estate, toll roads, whatever it can offer--to foreigners.

Republicans have run roughshod over the US Constitution, Congress, the courts and civil liberties. Republicans have made it perfectly clear that they believe that our civil liberties make us unsafe--precisely the opposite view of our Founding Fathers. Yet, Republicans regard themselves as the Patriotic Party.

The Republicans have violated the Nuremberg prohibitions against war crimes, and they have violated the Geneva Conventions against torture and abuse of prisoners. Republican disregard for human rights ranks with that of history's great tyrants.

The Republicans have put in place the foundation for a police state, which they have no problem using against fellow citizens!

We must get the Republicans totally out of power, or we will have no country left for any of us!

Posted by: Franky | September 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Well said Sequoia!
go to hell you religious nuts!
That idiotic woman even believes that if a woman get incest or rape, tough luck, you still need to have the "fruit of love"
Go to hell you religious nuts!

Posted by: color blind | September 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I am a democrat and do no think that HRC should attack Palin unless Hillary wants to. All she needs to do is to point out how Obama's positions on the issues are similar to hers while McCain/Palins are not. If she does attack Palin, it will make the democratic ticket appear weak. If someone needs to attack Palin, that is typically the job of the VP and I am sure Biden would be up to the task. I would just wait until the VP debate and let things shake out on there own. She is a light weight and the debate will show as much. Too bad most voters won't actually watch it as they get their info from commercials and sound bites.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has done enough for Senator Purple Lips and his campaign. Barry Hussein needs to be a man and fight his own battles. Maybe people were right when they said he is not capable of sealing the deal.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 5, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Republicans...Little Miss Jesus Mooseburger will save you! GREAT choice!

HA HA!

Posted by: sequoia | September 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Sarah (Porkbarrel) Palin is a distraction from issues the Republicans hope we never discuss.

Just today we had news that the jobless rate shot up in August to its worst level in five years (thank you Bush/McCain).

Then we learned that despite the so-called success of the surge, the Bush/McCain administration will not continue to bring our troops home this year.

These vital issues of economy and war are what we need to be discussing. I trust that Hillary Clinton will focus her fire on McCain's complicity in the reckless and destructive GOP policies that are driving our country to ruin. This is what I want to hear about from Hillary. She and the rest of us should ignore the intellectual lightweight Palin as the unworthy distraction she is.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: deedee | September 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

It is not necessary for Hillary to push back on Palin.

The republican strategy is to get Barack in a squabble with the Great On Propaganda VP Nominee in a distraction maneuver from the issues most important to the American people. He needs to keep the focus on the issues and the 8 years of failed GOP leadership.

It is Joe Biden's role to take on the Repub. VP nominee. He is quite capable of doing that.

I really think that he needs to cut her off at the knees considering she took her gloves off first and started the battle without mercy. David Axelrod has a role to play in doing this too. He needs to play Baracks junkyard dog when he is attacked by the GOP.

On issues, the GOP looses in 2008. You simply cannot defend the last 8 years.

They, however, are masters at casting smoke screens before the American people go get where they want (i.e. a war in Iraq).

Posted by: ConcernedaboutDC | September 5, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

The question is simple: do you want 4 more years of the same? If so, seek professional help. If not, vote Obama.

Posted by: dAVE | September 5, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

jimwhite1 wrote: "Do we really want the killers of unborn children in the Whitehouse? Do we really want the terrorist allowed to roam free? Do we really want people who hate the military in the Whitehouse?"
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Do we really want religious fascists who literally want the government to force American women to give birth against their will in the White House? I sure don't.

Do we really want to continue with the SAME disastrous foreign policies that have only "succeeded" in quadrupled Islamic terrorism worldwide, shattering our alliances, weakening our military, destroyed our credibility, emboldening our enemies and bankrupted the nation (morally and economically). I sure don't.

Do we really want a delusional Commander in Chief who will send young Americans to die for LIES, won't help them when they come home and is still fighting and trying to win the Vietnam War? I sure don't.

Isn't it interesting that active duty military have contributed 6 TIMES more to Obama than McSame?

Your idiotic right-wing talking points have zero connection to reality. You people are killing this country and the world.

Go to hell.

Posted by: sequoia | September 5, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Regular folk have a hard time going to a school like Harvard Law, but it does happen -- if the person works his or her tail off.

So-called "elitist schools" like the one that George W. Bush went to are very competitive, and hard for ordinary folk to get into, because family connections can help -- that's one of the reasons that Obama's achievement is significant.

As far as the "present votes" go -- you vote "present" in the Illinois legislature to fix a bill. It's similar to a filibuster in the U.S. Senate. -- something that the GOP has used more times this year than any previous Senate. In ONE year the GOP has leveled more filibusters than Obama raised ruing his ENTIRE career in the Illinois legislature.

So for Republicans to complain about this issue . . . Sweet Jesus, what more can be said?

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

So , let's see. If McCain go to an insurance company and try to insure his life, what you think the odds would be? The guy had 4 bouts with Melanoma, he could crock any time, you neocon nuts really believe that it is "Country First" to select that "pit bull" with lipstick as a VP? You really believe that she could lead the most powerful Nation on Earth? Please, wake up and smell the coffee!

Posted by: color blind | September 5, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

first ladies and sons of presidents should be prohibited from running for any public office

Posted by: dick cabesa | September 5, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Monte
"the GOP has been crying sexism and unfair attacks from Obama's camp when all the attacks are coming from independent media sources, the campaign has barely said anything..."

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So your point is not to call out sexism as long as you can pin it on the other guy? As long as YOU benefit from sexism, it's OK.

What kind of thinking, rational person would fine this acceptable? Or even defend it? This is the "equality" that Obama brings to the table. Let your surrogates do the dirty work for you?

Posted by: Sexism, and the people who support it. | September 5, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Hilary should do what Hilary wants. Bottom line.

It's probably best if she DOESN'T attack Palin -- but trains her fire on McCain.

I'm still blown away that the GOP selected Palin -- someone who puts the lie to McCain's criticisms of Obama.

The leadership obviously thinks it's base is stupid. Maybe that's why the rest of us have such a hard time respecting the GOP base -- especially after they got suckered into serving up Bush twice.

It's just f-cking madness.

Posted by: JP2 | September 5, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Reagular folk could never get into the elitist college.. In what Instance does a regauar guy get top vote 130 times Present not YEA or NAY just present.. What other regular guy does not have to introduce ONE piece of legislation and then become qualified for President? When does a regualr guy get supported by terrorist and racist get to become President?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

ok, why should hillary help obama? the answer she shouldn't. it seems to me all the clinton haters are now asking for her help. give me a break. i hope hillary says no. i know i will be very disappointed if she helps him after the way obama, his camp and supporters treated her and what they said about her. please hillary don't do anything for this ungreatful man. obama did this to himself let him get himself out of his mess. if noone saw this coming, you haven't paid attention or were drinking too much of obama's koolaid.back in june when it was obvious obama was still discing hillary, i emailed mccain's camp and told them(along with alot of other women)to put a woman on his ticket to show america that republicans will respect a woman and put one on a ticket.it really puts obama to task.i think it is so funny.matthews and oberman are in shock....they can't believe this is happening to there love of there life obama.just goes to show you what comes around goes around. the democratrs lost this one a long time ago by nominating obama. i have voted democratic for over 30 years and will vote mccain or stay home
no more a democrat,because democrats treat women like crap.

Posted by: teresa | September 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

palin is no hillary. palin is a self made woman, while hillary's only accomplishment to date remains marrying well and intimidating her husband's rape vistims into silence. some feminist icon

Posted by: dick cabesa | September 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse


Palin is an idiot. Can you imagine what a laughing stock the US would be if she were our VP?

How embarassing (and of course dangerous). The woman hasn't got a clue outside of being a corrupt Bible-thumping hick politician.

No thanks. We've had enough of that, don't you think?

Posted by: Shawn | September 5, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Do we really want the killers of unborn children in the Whitehouse? Do we really want the terrorist allowed to roam free? Do we really want people who hate the military in the Whitehouse?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

It's NOT Hillary Clinton's job to deal with Sarah Palin, as the Democrats, in a fit of self-immolation, went with the weaker candidate.

Even so, better by far than "Mr. We've been in charge for 26 out of the last 28 years and We're the Party of Change." Hello? Give us all a break.

That said, any Republican who thinks that Hillary supporters would support someone who is opposed to EVERYTHING we believe in and stand for (including, apparently, if the reports about Ms. Palin's membership in an Alaskan Separatist Movement Party are actually true, the United States) just because she has ovaries, must have taken leave of his or her senses.

Democrats don't have to attack Sarah Palin. We can leave that to the NeoCons, who while wrong in every single detail at least APPEAR to know something about foreign affairs. At least they know enough to be afraid.

Every intelligent VOTING woman I know thinks it must have been Mr. Obama's birthday the day John McCain picked Sarah Palin without vetting her, or even knowing, apparently, about just how complicated her family entanglements were.

She knows nothing, except how to appeal to the rapidly diminishing "red meat" right wing base of the GOP, the same group of people who have dumped out all the fiscal conservatives (me) and aren't interested in ANYTHING the social progressives (I'm not a liberal) have to say.

Ms. Palin will fall under her own weight. She will likely take John McCain with her. This is good as the woman is not fit to command a garbage truck, much less the United States Armed Forces, on the (higher than average) sad possibility that John McCain doesn't live thru his term, if elected. Or becomes senile. Ronald Reagan did.

No amount of prepping in the few weeks before the inauguration can make up for avoiding a lifetime of historical, political, and common sense, and an utter and complete LACK common sense, sadly, is what characterizes this choice.

One wonders what EVER possessed Mr. McCain to pick her, and apparently without checking into her carefully. Maybe he already has gone "round the bend."

For any of you with a literary bend, I offer the following, from Sinclair Lewis:

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.” - Sinclair Lewis, It Can’t Happen Here. ...

Posted by: Va_Lady2008 | September 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Do we really want trashy people like the Palin represent the American people? I hope not!

Posted by: color blind | September 5, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

What a wonderful world. Woman Trash woman! Instead of defending each other and let the men in this country know that woman can handle the job too. You admire Hillary so much but you failed to put her on the nomination ticket. Obama is too cocky because he thinks that he can win the election on his own. That's why he cast Hillary aside.

Oh Boy, now he is trying to get his ally women out there to attack Palin. That only tells other that Palin is so much powerful that he can't even stand up to her. He needs help. If he can't handle a woman in this election! How could he handle a woman leader around the world.

Posted by: San Franciscan | September 5, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Regular folk can go to Harvard if they work their tails off.

There was also a time when this country valued the best -- and real competition.

Now the GOP competes by lowering the bar. It selects the most unqualified VP in history simply because she doesn't make people feel insecure.

That's the same recipe that got us 8 years of George W. Bush.

Posted by: JP@ | September 5, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

What a wonderful world. Woman Trash woman! Instead of defending each other and let the men in this country know that woman can handle the job too. You admire Hillary so much but you failed to put her on the nomination ticket. Obama is too cocky because he thinks that he can win the election on his own. That's why he cast Hillary aside.

Oh Boy, now he is trying to get his ally women out there to attack Palin. That only tells other that Palin is so much powerful that he can't even stand up to her. He needs help. If he can handle a woman in this election! How could he handle a woman leader around the world.

Posted by: San franciscan | September 5, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama and Biden can handle criticism, whether it comes from wingers or from John McCain, Sarah Palin, or their surrogates.

Hillary's takin' a break after a torturous campaign. She's done more than her share for the Obama campaign.
I believe a lot of this nonsense gets dragged up by people wanting to put Hillary in every scenario possible.

Posted by: Worthy Evans | September 5, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Fu%! Palin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Scott | September 5, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"Can Hillary really trash another women?"
Yes she can if she's doing it based on the issues, she and palin are complete opposites when it comes to policies and stances. If she hates Palin's stances then she should attack her.

Blacks supporting Obama just because he is black is not a good thing. It's voting for Obama for all the wrong reasons as it completely ignores the issues. However you'd find few people who would openly say such a thing since their afraid to look racist...

The women's liberation movement, the fight against racism... these are battles about EQUALITY, not about affirmative action. Giving people equality means you get the good and the bad... you no longer get unfairly attacked or discriminated against, but at the same time you no longer get special treatment... Though as this election has shown, we're still not quite there yet... There are some legit sexists attacks, but at the same time there are cries of sexism where none exist; for instance, the GOP has been crying sexism and unfair attacks from Obama's camp when all the attacks are coming from independent media sources, the campaign has barely said anything... And while some media attacks are related to her gender, others are directed at the fact that she is unknown and inexperienced... She's never been on the national stage so the media has never dug into her past like they did with McCain, Obama,and Biden, so they are desperate to find out more about her... she'd receive a lot of the same attacks had she been a man

One thing i liked about Hillary Clinton was the fact that i saw gender as having little to do with her success... had she been a man, she still would have been a heavy front runner; i like to think that the high majority of her 18 million voted for her for many more reasons other than that she was a woman.... this is a stark contrast to Palin, she became governor on her own, but the VP spot was handed to her on a silver platter... there's no doubt in my mind, had Palin been a man, McCain would have never selected her (and the only reason McCain didn't choose another female republican is because most of them are more moderate in their views)...

Palin was on the road to future success and might have proven herself to be a real dynamo, a very experienced hard working woman who had the credentials to prove she could be president... by 2016 or 2020 she could have, on her own hard work and without any handouts, been a real contender for the presidency... instead she's now taking the easy path riding on McCain

Personally, i want the first female president to be someone who really worked for it, like Hillary or any other number of women in politics... when a woman works as hard, if not harder, as any man and gets the same job he could get, she proves that she's as good as any man; it would be something truly symbolic of the changing times... When a woman is giving handouts, it only shows that she needs aid to obtain what men have... Not to mention being the first female president won't do much if she does a bad job; that would only serve as a set back.

Posted by: Monte | September 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama, grew up like regular folk...and regular folk go to Harvard or GMU?? Regualar folk associate with racist preachors? Regular dishounor the troops? Regular people cast 130 present votes?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah "Barracuda" Palin should be Sarah "chicken-sh!t" Palin. She won't grant an interview to reporters. After what both Clinton and Obama have gone through the last two years, let's see Palin give just ONE interview.... JUST ONE, and please let it not be on Fixed News.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 5, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

There is no need for Hillary Clinton to say anything beyond what she has already said. There is no comparison between her and Sarah Palin beyond the fact that they are both women. Hillary Clinton's political and world views are completely different (at least from what has been revealed about Sarah Palin so far).

It is now clear to me what "hockey mom" means. A hockey mom is the Republican equivalent of a soccer mom without diversity. Hockey moms only come from a few handful of states where hockey is played, and includes only people of European descent (to be read as white only, with no one of "color" included).

Posted by: FLTNVA | September 5, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

mnjam you are truly a moron.

Posted by: MyBeefStrong | September 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Clinton doesn't want to help Obama, she wants him to lose for not picking her then she can run in 2012.

Posted by: MyBeefStrong | September 5, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Why is it Hillary's "job" to attack Palin??? I find this to be highly offensive. I don't think Dems are as evolved as they think they are...

Posted by: MJ | September 5, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, just when you think the Republican party could not become more extreme, along comes the fascista Sarah Palin, for whom women are breeding stock (see Bristol), men are cannon fodder (Track) and mental retardation is a blessing from God (Trig).

Except in Alaska where Sarah practices the kind of "communism" her wingnut cohorts claim to despise. The People's Republic of Alaska lives lives on federal handouts and windfall profit taxes on oil companies -- it is Palin's prowess as a porkmeister and her increase in taxes on oil companies that have made her popular in Alaska.

Posted by: mnjam | September 5, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I was a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton. I donated far above the average to her campaign. Yes, I was upset with how Hillary was treated, but if I can believe in her position on the issues, then I can also believe in her when she says to throw that support behind Obama. And I have!
There are two things to remember. 95% of White America has far more in common with their fellow Black Americans then we ever will with the upper class 5% of America. So that should solve the color issue. Second, if you are just the typical American worker, which 95% of us are, then realize it will be the Democrats that make it possible for your kids to go to college, social security in your old age, affordable medical care... you get the idea. The Republicans for decades have voted against all this. Do your home work! I know this blog was supposed to be about Palin, but her imprint on this country is so insignificant to date that she is hardly worth talking about, unless of course this right-wing, incompassionate,conservative Christian nut nobody gets into office. Then we are all in big trouble. Obama 08

Posted by: Dave L. | September 5, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Take off the gloves sister. What are you waiting for?

Seriously, if Hillary doesn't get out there and help fellow Democrats fight for my rights as a woman, she will not get my vote in the future. This is not about her legacy, it's about what is good for our country. If she can't figure that out, I'm done with her.

Posted by: mblack1 | September 5, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72: you are ignorant and racist and it is sad and unfortunate that there are still and will continue to be LOTS of people in this country that think and act just like you! The Obama's grew up like a lot of us-- regular folk trying to make it. They receive great educations and go on to be successful and they still can't win....some people say they aren't "black" enough...whatever that means...and some say they are elitist. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

DICK CHENEY IN LIPSTICK.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Clinton should stay out of this. Obama should be a man fight this on his own. If he really wanted Clinton's help, he would have chosen her as VP.

Posted by: Jane | September 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

To Can Hillary Trash...:
You think just any woman will do? As long as she has a uterus, you can stick any figurehead in that office and it's ok? Have you seen the damage our country has suffered by putting an idiot in the WH?

I am as anxious as any feminist to have a woman in the WH, but not any woman will do for me. One incompetent stupid woman might prevent another woman reaching high office for years. In fact, I'm convinced Gerry Ferraro is why we had to wait 24 years for another woman to make a serious play. Gerry Ferraro wasn't qualified, she was chosen only for her gender, and her scandals prevented Mondale from winning and we had to wait years for women to make up the progress we had lost.

I thought Hillary was the wrong woman, but Palin is even worse. She's stupid and inexperienced. The fact that the McCain campaign won't let her answer press questions shows us how stupid THEY think she is. We have several women governors and senators right now. Some of them are great. We need a great woman, our best woman to rise to that office.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

The "NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN" thing is weird.

You know what sounds much better?

NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA!

Posted by: AK | September 5, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

It makes no difference if Palin is a woman or not. Continuing
the conservative retoric and policies of the Republicans is wrong for this country. However on a more personal note, Sarah Palin could not shine Hillary Clinton's shoes. Hillary is smart to stay out of this and continue to simply support Obama for President. The media and the Republicans would just spin it to make it look like sour grapes on Hillary's part.
Have we not all had enough of those bible thumping one issue conservatives. They are the reason this country cannot move forward! Think about it! Obama 08

Posted by: Dave L. | September 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"Hillary supporters must recognize that Obama's rejection and disregard for Hillary as the most qualified person for VP fractured the democratic party and alienated Hillary supporters"

I'd agree with that, speaking as a (male) Hillary supporter who likes McCain. Except for one BIG problem: Sarah Palin.

No way in heck I'm going to be party to getting that woman into power. My vote, and my money, is going to Obama!

Posted by: apox | September 5, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Having jump-started the Republican Convention, Palin is being directed back to Alaska to bone up on foreign policy and stay out of reach of prying reporters who might elicit embarrassing retorts.

Posted by: 4MoreYears? | September 5, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"A noun, a verb and POW"

It's simple really. McCain is still fighting Vietnam. One minute he was top-gunning those "commie gooks" in their cities and rice paddies and the next he was in a prison camp for five and a half years. He's lucky they didn't kill him on the spot. After all, that's what he was doing to them. I'm sure he came home wondering how did we "lose"? After all, we had all the fire power, the carriers, the aircraft, the men, the economics - we were the "super power". I'm sure he thinks we lost because we didn't have the "guts" to pursue "victory". We were "betrayed" by those nasty "librals" "Stabbed in the back" so to speak. Of course we all now know (except maybe for John) that a "commie" Vietnam was no danger to the United States; that their war was one of nationalism vs. colonialism. They fought the
Japanese, then the returning French colonialists, then their American successors. My bedroom set is marked "Made in Vietnam" and American corporations are pouring in for the cheap labor. No labor unions in a commie country you know. Over 58,000 kids died for nothing in that war. We "honor" them on a black wall. Most of them died while waiting for Nixon to bring the troops "home with honor". When pols use these words it usually means someone else's kid has to die for an empty slogan.

McCain now seeks "victory" in Iraq. He hasn't learned what the Vietnamese knew all along - eventually you will go home. The Iraqis know it. Absent permanent occupation (not a good idea) the Iraqis will rule themselves. Iraq is a history of coup and counter-coup; of Kings and strongmen. It will be thus after we are gone. I give the government maybe 5 years. Iraq is not a "nation" in the western sense. It was drawn on a map by the British and French after dismenbering the Ottoman Empire. France got modern Syria and Lebanon; the Brits got Iraq, Jordan and the Palestine Mandate (lucky them). Neither country cared exactly who lived within the new borders. The Ottomans ruled Iraq as three "provinces" one each for Sunni, Shia and Kurd. They were smarter than Johnny McCain will ever be.

McCain is a militarist through and through. He is 72 and learned nothing.

Posted by: toritto | September 5, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse


I don't really think Clinton needs to attack Palin. Palin's own corruption, trashiness, ignorance and lies attack Palin. What a sleaze she is turning out to be. Obviously, she attracts zero people beyond right-wing loons. It's hilarious that right-wing losers think that because she hunts and didn't force her pregnant teen daughter have an abortion (how 'bout that abstinence-only "education"), and has been completely corrupt during her entire political career, she's qualified to be President! Ummmmm.

Thank You McCain for picking Little Miss Jesus Mooseburger as your VP. This is gonna be FUN! Can't wait for the VP debate! LOL!


Posted by: sequoia | September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Viva Hillary Clinton!!! ... let nobami lose so we can vote for you in 2012!!! Hillary in 2012 is worth 4 short years of McCain-Palin ... and then we will have our greatest President ever!! .. Viva President Hillary Clinton!!!

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

dfdf

Posted by: dfd | September 5, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I just can't get get over the fact that we have to few women in high offices to trash every single one to be nominated. Ferraro was to liberal ... Palin is to conservative. You'll never have a candidate that everyone women agrees with. And you'll never have a woman in high office.

And yea, I get the "vote for the best person" theory, but my thinking is getting a women into high office IS the best person at this time in our history.

Blacks are supporting Obama, and everyone seems to think that such a grand thing, why can't women support women.

At the very least, why can't women at least not trash another women to the degree that they are.

This is what the women's lib movement comes to .... agree with me or else?

Posted by: Can Hillary really trash another women? | September 5, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Leave her alone"
I second that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Hillary will understandably ask people to vote for the democratic ticket.There is no need for her "attack" Palin,esp after seeing the smear attack Gov Palin is facing from the same people that attacked herduri9ngtheprimaries.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Leave her alone. She's NOT even on his campaign. She has done too much to help him already. Now, it's his job to deal with Palin. If he can't deal with McCain's VP, then, he deserves to lose the election.

If he wants to ask for Hillary's help, that's fine but he needs to help her pay her debt. Now, that's the fair game....

Posted by: Kay | September 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"4. It's unbelievable that so-called Clinton supporters are now voting Republican..."

I agree.

If we can lie about our identities, we can sure as hell lie about our opinions. Now what motivation would anyone have for trying to keep the Democrats divided?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton | September 5, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Republicans for Obama/Biden in 2008!

Posted by: Scott | September 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Pitt Bulls and Lipsticks...hahahaha..funny one you eskimo lover

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has much bigger jugs than Tina Fey. Can you say BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRumski!

Posted by: Brumski | September 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MC-CAIN/PALIN!"

Posted by: Hillary Clinton | September 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

My friends in the rust belt that want to vote Republican, listen up.

The Republivand offer you their narrow religious beliefs , not a job. They offer you young son and daughter a dashing military career to carry on the stupid, costly wars.

My fellow Vietnam soldiers, that war was stupid and costly and so will McCains contine of the war

Posted by: WALTER | September 5, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people are singing Sarah Palin's praises when the truth is none of us know who she is. She is that brand new on the national scene. Even the Repub surrogates on TV defending her have never met her or spoken with her.

Doesn't that scare you people? This is an absolute unknown quantity who refuses to talk to the press or answer any questions.

I say let's get all the information out there. She may be great or she may be horrible. We need to know before we put her in charge of our children's security. Before she's in charge of our checkbooks. Before she sends our troops in harm's way. We know nothing about her, and frankly, that's the scariest thing about this situation.

Posted by: Stone | September 5, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen the video of McCain at a KKK rally in Arizona? I hear it shows him in full Klan robes of a senior klan leader (with hood in hand). I think the video is going to be put on YouTube right before the election.

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 5, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Diane72, you're not supposed to wear your white bedsheets after Labor Day. Say hi to the Grand Dragon for the rest of us.

My goodness, seriously, you were born in the wrong century. You would have fit better in in pre-Civil War times. Your kind of racism isn't acceptable in our society anymore.

Posted by: Pupster | September 5, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR).

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I don't want to hear anymore whinng from them about their disappearing jobs and livlihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie's "patriotism" put food on your table.

Screw 'um. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny south on a golf course, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage. We won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is reported to be a Tina Fey look-a-like. Now on June 2, 2008, Tina Fey was announced as the "Sexiest Woman in the World" by readers of lesbian/bisexual Web site AfterEllen.com in their Annual Top 100.This begs the question: "Will Sarah Palin, a Tina Fey look-a-like make it to number 2 "Sexiest Woman in the World"?

Posted by: Blue | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

Posted by: Gary | September 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

So why do we not make a big deal of McCain not having an American Flag pin on his lapel??

Posted by: JJ | September 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Jim White,

That is a piggish comment. You should be ashamed to have written it.

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Kelly,
you're line of thinking is what could be considered dangerous. You're basing your vote on nothing more than character when its the issues that matter. If you against the war in Iraq and you vote for McCain/Palin then you are voting against you're own best interests and the best interests of this country. Strong character is meaningless if that strength is being used AGAINST you or if they haven't a clue how to use that strength; their are many terrible people in history who be called "strong", but they used that strength to harm others or pursue interests that left the people in despair. And if they don't know how to use such strong character, they could make rash decisions, the kind which could trigger WW3. Hell, voting based on strong character is just about as bad as voting based on gender, race, or charisma (ya, some Obamites need think harder about how they vote too)

Do you care about healthcare? how do you feel about the war? the economy? energy policies? the environment? global warming? taxes? these are all things that really matter in this country and to vote against you're own stance on these issues is to vote against what is best for this country. A weak leader that at least TRIES to obtain the better interest of the people is better than a srong leader who will work to go AGAINST those interests.

In regards to those questions before, if you agree with the conservatives policies and stances then fine, vote McCain/Palin... if You agree with them, then voting for them will help pursue you're best interests... fact is, you should have never been a hillary supporter in the first place...

If you however agreed with the liberal view, Hillary's view of those issues, then you should vote in favor of you're interests and in favor of your country by voting democrat... That will try to do what they can to pursue what you view to be the best for this country...

Hell, if you agree with the libertarian view on the issues you should considering Bob... i Don't know where you stand on these issues, and i probably couldn't change you're mind, but i would hope that in the least you would vote based on actual issues and help this country elect a leader who will lead the country into the direction that you think is right...

Posted by: Monte | September 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes the Democractic lies- The troops are killing incocent womna nad childen... The dems hate the troops hate the military, they would rather burn the flag the raise the flag... Didn't BillyC, burn an American flag.. How many troops died on his watch?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

That's the problem with Republican lies- pretty soon our democracy is filled with voters who are making decision based on bad information.

It wasn't the surge in troops that decreased the violence in Iraq. It was a) the surge in bribes we paid the Sunnis to stop fighting, and b) the fact that the bloodletting in Baghdad had run its course, the city became ethnically cleansed.

(Our forces are the best in the world, but there are limits to the use of force.)

If you people think we can just cowboy up send a bunch more troops into Afghanistan and come out with Bin Ladin's head on a plate then you have fallen prey to the lies and simplistic thinking that Republicans have offered for way too long.

Out with the lot of them.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 5, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Ohhhhh no Mr. Bill I'm under sniper fire... ohhhhhh no.. oh ahhhhh well it could have been sniper fire she was under on her overseas vist.. Well it could have... Please just burn the flags and make the democracts happy

Hillairy Cliton has her teeth showing now..grrrrrrrrr

Obama

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

U.S. Attacks on Pakistani Territory Continue
Increase Decrease

September 5, 2008 (LPAC)--The inability of the George Bush adminstration to learn from its own strategic errors--such as the support for the British-led toppling of the Musharaf government in Pakistan--was demonstrated again today. A drone deployed by the U.S.-led ISAF forces in Afghanistan, fired several missiles into Pakistani territory today, in North Waziristan. The missiles hit a house, reportedly killing at least three children and wounding several women, according to local television reports. Some reports are saying that those killed were Talibani militants, and Army spokesman Major-General Athar Abbas said they are investigating the incidents.

As Lyndon LaRouche pointed out yesterday, the destabilization of Pakistan is the key British target at this time. Internal Pakistani reports are emphasizing the killing of civilians, and the entire situation is further isolating the Pakistani Army, a key national institution, and fostering internal dissension.

This strike was the third in three days on the Pakistani area bordering Afghanistan, following the raid on Sept. 3 conducted by U.S. forces, in which some 15-20 were killed. That attack was severely condemned by the Pakistani government and Parliament. Yesterday, another drone attack reportedly killed five militants in Pakistan

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

H. Clinton is waiting on Sarah's, husband to cheat on her.. And does he have to lie to the American people and to congress.. "I did not have sex.. with that woman-intern.." hahaha I wonder what Vincent Foster would think.. And how far away was the gun from his body?

Posted by: jimwhite1 | September 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I listened to Anne Kornblut this morning on the Diane Rehm Show and Anne was pathetic! Anne is a freaking scum bag! Anne is so one-sided it seems as if she is paid by Obama to spread CRAP. And that is exactly what she was saying yesterday and today....CRAP!

1st, Anne claimed that McCain did not explain 'how'? You have got to be kidding? Anne must have been drinking and making out with Tom Brokaw while McCain was speaking. Osama got on stage and the word change came out 100 times without explanation. Anne denies being biased but only negative propaganda is said about McCain and only positive things about Obama. I mean Osama!

Isn't it illegal to disclose personal information about minors? If it is, Palins daughter should sue Anne, the old hag Diane Rehm and the Washington Post for every penny they have!

Anne, you're a pathetic race-baiting, naive, anti-American, Nazi, compulsive lying sack of CRAP! You have to be a maggot to use the disability of her baby as a political tool. Lowest of the low! This is Obamanations ONLY tactic and that is rumors, slander pathetic cry baby lies!

I think you're jealous of Palin because she's obviously better looking than you, smarter than you, has more morals than you and your low life racist candidate Osama! You're the type of scum that we really need to be worried about! Stop talking about her family and focus on facts.

Posted by: Anne is a Psycho | September 5, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The surge effectively showed the world that four US Marines are better than two – something most of us Americans already knew. The United States Marine is THE baddest man on the planet.

But in terms of the political progress for which the surge was SUPPOSED to have been measured, it’s done little more than put lipstick on a Pit Bull.

Posted by: TW | September 5, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

The right wing would
have us believe this
election is about
experience and character.
It is a thinly veiled
attempt to mislead us,
this is about history,
this is our chance
to elect a african
american, our chance
to prove we are
beyond race.
anyone not voting
for Mr Obama is
simply a narrow
minded agent
of hate!

Posted by: usa3 | September 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Sen. McCain made a stupid, reckless, cynical, crap shoot of a decision in packing Gov. Palin - who's extreme right wing views are not going to be useful in this election - as his running mate.

It was stupid because the pick only galvanizes his base, which is a third the size of the democrats and independents that this pick offends.

It was reckless because he's 72 and has a history of cancer; and she's not ready. Not even close.

It was cynical because he thought that he could just throw any woman out there and get the Hillary vote.

And it was a crap shoot because he didn't even vet her. Reformer? Give me a break: she was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it and she's a pork barrel political pig, just like the rest of the them.

McCain is nuts. Of course, I knew that already. Who else, in their right mind, would think they could ditch their first wife, marry into organized crime, use that corrupt business and political network to foster Presidential aspirations, and then, having been helped by a corrupt network, try and make a name fighting corruption.

I guess you right wingers would rather be Idiots than Patriots, and that your too darn lazy to vet McCain's background.

McCain is a better actor than Reagan. But he hasn't fooled all of us.

And with the Palin pick, he did himself in. Perhaps when he's dead the media will have the balls to write the truth about him.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Tony Rezko's Options:
1.Start Singing.
2.Read Miss Manners chapter on Communal Showering in Correctional Instituitions.
3.Take shower and then sing about his neighbor and pal Obama.

Posted by: Jethro Gore | September 5, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR).

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I don't want to hear anymore whinng from them about their disappearing jobs and livlihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let John's "patriotism" put bread on their tables.

Screw 'um. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny south on a golf course, got my steady income, my medicare and prescription drug coverage. We won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values" instead of your interests, you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR).

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I don't want to hear anymore whinng from them about their disappearing jobs and livlihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let John's "patriotism" put bread on their tables.

Screw 'um. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny south on a golf course, got my steady income, my medicare and prescription drug coverage. We won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values" instead of your interests, you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I see some die-hard Hillary supporters (or anti-Obama supporters) don't listen to or heed Hillary's own words.

Hillary has said she will do all she can to help get Obama elected. Remember Hillary said "NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MC-CAIN!"

Hillary is just joining the teaam of other women in Obama's campaign (like McCaskill, Sebelius, and Napolitano) that will be hitting the campaign trail again for Obama.

Speaking of women, where in the heck is Sarah Palin going?! Back to ALASKA! After being the talk of the "town" during the GOP convention she is going back to Alaska while her husband remains in Minnesota to attend a Snowmobile race?!

Both Obama and Biden are on the campaign trail in different states. Even, McCain is getting back to the campaign trail, why not Palin?

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 5, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

When are we going to start calling the GOP what it has become - fascist?

Posted by: toritto | September 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"Clinton has been exceptionally quiet since the selection of just the second female vice presidential nominee in history. With some of her supporters anxiously hoping Clinton will step up to push Palin back, she is scheduled to make stops in central Florida on Monday on Sen. Barack Obama's behalf."

Zip it, Anne.

The only people anxious for this woman-on-woman violence are tanked-out Obamites like you.

Too damn bad.

If Obama wanted HRC's help, he should have picked her as VP, or helped pay her debt, for real.

He didn't, and as Clinton supporter, I want Hillary to leave Barack to get his rear-end kicked by a lady, which is exactly what is happening now.

Let me guess, the next Deb Howell spot is going to be about WaPo's cult altar in the newsroom, right?

Ha ha ha!

Hillary can't save BaJoke now, and her true supporters don't want her to, either. He wanted this, he's got it.

Posted by: Paul F. Villarreal | September 5, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Senator Barack Obama is weak. He needs Senator Hillary Clinton to attract votes. However, Senator Hillary Clinton should not attack Governor Sarah Palin. Both women are strong leaders. As a Democrat Pro-Life and a former Senator Clinton supporter, I am excited with McCain's VP
Governor Palin. No Obama!

Posted by: mmarii | September 5, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

WE all know Hillary Clinton; Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton, by far.

Its better for the Dems to damn her by faint or no praise, she is just the result of the Republicans knowing they haven't anything to offer the American people but lies, mocking and a bad soap opera - Sarah does St. Paul.

Posted by: nclwtk | September 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Clinton owes Obama nothing. Obama's supporters argued during the primary that he was the most electable Democrat. Those of us who follow or work in politics (not "first-time would have voted for Nader in 2000 types" or wine and brie liberal elites) found this laughable. Many of us are resigned to the fact that McCain is going to win the election, and between now and 2012 we'll work to take back the Democratic Party from those who consistently nominate candidates who are out of touch with the majority of Americans who do not live in urban centers.

Obama's campaign said that he would put Nevada and Georgia into play, and he better! McCain is probably going to win Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Missouri, and many of the other battleground states.

Posted by: Ian | September 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Hillary's reputation is at stake whether she wishes it or not.

Posted by: 4MoreYears? | September 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SELECTION AND THE DIMINUTION OF DEMOCRACY:
IS A SILENT COUP HAPPENING IN THE U.S.A?


Someone below asked the question, why did the GOP pick Sarah Palin?

• Could the Palin Phenomenon be a symptom of a seismic power grab that is transforming our government?

• Is the Palin selection part of a larger plan to seize control of the Executive Branch and make it beholden to another set of decision-makers -- unelected, entrenched, and in charge of the forces of power and control?

• Could this plan dovetail with reports from a Dutch newspaper this past week that the U.S. is planning to strike Iran's nuclear facilities?

• Could the fruition of the "Help America Vote Act," which led to the widespread use of electronic voting machines, the vast majority of which leave no voter-verified paper trail, also be part of this mosaic?

• Could John McCain's vacillations on the vice president issue and his eventual acquiescence to those who recommended Palin be part of a skillful campaign to influence and oversee his decision-making?

• Are we in the midst of a silent coup that is resulting in the loss of personal freedom via the extra-legal targeting of American citizens in an unconstitutional bypass of the judicial system, a denial of due process under the law?

• And is this power grab resulting in the emasculation of both Congress and the Judiciary, rendering those institutions little more than symbolic of power, when in fact power has been quietly usurped by unelected officials of entrenched institutions of power and control?

• Is anyone -- in the media, in Congress, in think tanks, in academia -- pondering these questions?

• If not, can we afford not to be asking these questions?

Posted by: Thomas Paine | September 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

LOL! NotBubba, even Mondale got more than 30% of the total popular vote. I would be shocked if McCain-Palin get less than 60 million votes. You seem to be forgetting at least SOME of Hillary voters were conservative Democrats or Republicans in disguise. I can't wait for the exit polls on this one.

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Quite frankly, I don't see why Hillary (or anyone else) should spend much time attacking Palin. She does not worry me nearly as much as McCain. Hearing the remark by Westmoreland about the "uppity" Democratic candidate is a sobering reminder about where the real battle lies. Hillary Clinton knows very well what is going on--it is the Republican playbook from the last 16 years on naked display AGAIN. After McCain's speech about a revolution against himself, the faultlines are drawn. Forget Palin and remind voters that the GOP are simply out of gas--and the kind of gas they need won't come from any amount of drilling--

Posted by: dch | September 5, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Hillary will handle it properly. All she has to do is expose Palin's positions and cite "judgement". What's amusing is everyone's talking, pro or con, about Palin and McCain's a side show.

Finally, I can agree with JakeD, but with one quibble. Yes, Palin-McCain will get 20 to 30% of the vote. Not the Clinton vote but the popular vote!

Bring on Jerry Springer and Jeff Foxworthy. One question the Palin's want answered. Does the Vice-President's house at the Naval Observatory have a "concrete pond". Jed and company strike oil!

Posted by: NotBubba | September 5, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

My prediction is that McCain-Palin get 20-30% of Hillary voters.

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Mike Reagan was close - she's Dick Cheney in a skirt.

Posted by: SOC | September 5, 2008 7:36 AM | Report abuse

All Palin has done is advertise unwed teenage pregnancy. Is Britney Spears's mother qualified to be VP because her unwed teenage daughter has a baby? When offered the VP spot, Palin could have said no, her political ambitions must take a back seat to her family's well being. Instead she turned her daughter into a poster child for dysfunction and shame - a celebrity celebrating unwed teen pregnancy and pathetic shotgun marriage. Do your children want to be just like the Palin girls when they grow up to be teenagers? This woman is a role model?

Posted by: sloc | September 5, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

CINDY (if that's your real name):

First of all, VICE Presidents do not enforce any laws. Second, I've never heard of ANY Governor enforcing statutory rape laws, i.e. via their Attorney General. Isn't the age of consent 16 in Alaska? If any law was broken, I would expect the appropriate authorities to pursue that without passion or prejudice, and regardless of the fact that Bristol's mom is Governor. Now, I wonder if you had the same standard back when Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice?

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Michael Reagan just went "all in". I hope he's right.

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Welcome Back Dad-
Michael Reagan

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/welcome_back_dad.html

This AM CBS Poll-Obama42/McCain42

Posted by: Scott | September 5, 2008 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Here is a thought-provoking matter to ponder over about Gov Palin. In Alaska there is a Statutory Rape law on the books that says that if an 18yr old has sex with a 17yr old it is a felony, and this law is implicit. Though I personally don’t agree with teens having sex because of what can possibly happen, as in the case with Gov Palin’s daughter. However, my argument is not whether an 18yr old should be arrested for having sex with a 17yr old, which I am not all that crazy about, but the law is the law. It can also be argued that Gov Palin has been an irresponsible parent for allowing it to happen, by not taking a stronger stand in educating her daughter about what can happen if she makes the choice to date and have sex, not to mention his age. This has more to do with Gov Palin being an irresponsible elected official, for not upholding the laws that she took an oath to uphold. Gov Palin along with others are treating this only as a personal matter, while totally disregarding its legal implication. I know this has caused personal embarrassment for Gov Palin, and I can sympathize with her for that embarrassment it has caused. Yet Irrespective of your differences with my opinion on this matter, I am sure we can all agree that we need someone in the Whitehouse that would implement the laws that they are entrusted to uphold. Because when we take a closer look at this matter, without any doubt there is a double standard being applied in this case, while many youngsters around the Country are serving jail time for commenting this same offense? After all, isn’t the Republican the ones that are always saying building more prisons, is what this Country needs? How can we allow Gov Palin to govern America, with this type of mentality? I HOPE THIS IS NOT WHAT SHE MEANS WHEN SHE SAYS THAT SHE IS A MAVERICK!

Posted by: CINDY | September 5, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

Amanda:

Do you have any source other than yourself for such a story? Why isn't "No way, no how, no McCain-Palin" enough comment from Hillary? That seems fairly "direct" to me.

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Kelly:

Thank you.

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 5:28 AM | Report abuse

Wiley_fox:

Perhaps Hillary will, but then again, perhaps she won't. Regardless, you seem to have forgotten about our current VP. What kind of "manners" got him elected (twice)?

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Lots and lots of EXTRA training in Foreign Policy will go just so far in preparing Palin...
Calling her a barracuda is apparently calling it mildly...
I understand that she has bitten??? perhaps chomped is more like it...several hands and limbs of those who had approached her in helpful ways as she tried climbing up the political ladder. I can't wait to see her "function" in Washington, DC society.
Her reported behavior over the years reminds me of the stories about why some New York legal firms (especially those firms that dealt with National clients) seemed to prefer hiring grads from the South...they didn't need to be taught manners.
She'll need more than mere manners to interface with foreign ministers, royalty, and other foreign dignitaries. And to think she is in line for the First Office in the event of McCain's demise...
Her tactics in her local office prompted having to hire a city administrator to conduct her local governmental affairs as she was just too EVIL even for suburban Alaska...
She seemed to accept other offices on the basis of their titles and the fact that BIG OIL was involved, and then when the job seemed too large complained and resigned...can't do that as #1 or 2!!!

Perhaps Sen. Clinton will inform the American public about the ways the other Senators in this election have behaved during their terms of office compared to the Palin Alaskan Wild Woman...

Posted by: Wiley_fox | September 5, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

Clinton owes the Obama Campaign nothing!!!

Vote McCain/Palin!!!!!!!

Posted by: Clinton Lover | September 5, 2008 4:22 AM | Report abuse

Life is not simple, political life is. Your children never will be in harms way at war, so talk is cheap. Most do not no what it is like to struggle.
Leaving it at that, the Republicans VP, soother in mouth, rifle ready is just a mouth piece. If you shot a deer you would know that the animal will look right at you knowing it's killer. A rifle is not a natural predator they are used to. and unless you are poor and can't afford to buy food what's the thrill. is it the cutting, the trophy, or the man made weapon of destruction. Any idiot can kill., these mavericks make me sick. If you want a female VP, go for a real naturalist. Lots of bull seems to excite you people and I question why. I prey her son does not come back dead or disabled for life, by fire power or the poisoned air he will be breathing because of all the bombs dropped in this illegal war. Yes illegal. Get past the soother people. She does not, nor will have the experience for years. Al the poor lady has is backing and scrips written by everyone involved in this 8 year mess. May your god bless you the people, not theirs. I still have faith the real American women equal to any man will see through this disgusting attempt to start yet another war. The surge did not work. You will never change those people and have no business there. Just a calm before the storm, and yes the Republicans can hide much from you till election day.

Posted by: justadad55= | September 5, 2008 3:41 AM | Report abuse

While McCain delivered a rather lengthy speech, it may have done what it needed to do. Now that the conventions are over, the polls should settle down. This poll is a bit curious. http://www.electionboppoll.com

Posted by: Not so sure! | September 5, 2008 3:36 AM | Report abuse

My thinking on the Obama/Clinton split is the following:
1. Clinton can still have a big role in an Obama administration even if she's not VP.
2. Clinton has ambitions to be President, not VP. Who is to say that Obama wouldn't pass the reins over to her after his first or second term? THe American people have been able to consider a 72 year old man for the Republican ticket. Hillary looks like she is a healthy woman, her days aren't numbered.
3. I think there is a lot we don't know about the conversation that went on between Obama and Clinton. No need to be brash or attack Obama for the VP decision.
4. It's unbelievable that so-called Clinton supporters are now voting Republican, based on the fact that she's not VP, as if Obama is so drastically different from Clinton's positions.
5. Finally the Republican ticket this year represents why Americans are sharply criticized and ridiculed worldwide. If McCain is elected President there will be no hope in redeeming ourselves. The egomaniacal, "USA chants" and country first rhetoric witnessed at the RNC, our meddling in foreign affairs(i.e. neoconsertive objectives) and domestic issues (controlled by the Christian right) has thrown this country into a ditch. If more Americans could get a higher education maybe this country wouldn't be so religious/conservative. I am starting to think that poor public education is one of the reasons why Republicans have been able to stay in power and lock-in white working class Americans, who feat the "other" and fear just about everything else, except for God.

Posted by: J.A. | September 5, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Funny thing to see who's complaining today.

Look at all the Republican operatives leading the crocodile tears of pain for Palin. I love it when they issue a command that "this will stop now" and just expect the press to kow tow. Blood in the water is an apt phrase, these are literally the same guys who brought you such classics as the Clinton impeachment, Swiftboat veterans for "truth", the Vince Foster "murder", Gore invented the internet, Kerry is a liar, Hillary is a lesbian, Slimed veteran Democratic senators and House members as traitors etc etc.

And now the thug Wingnuts are all crying because they have finally been shown to have no clothes, in public. The press will not and should not stop on command, there is too much profit and humor in it. Palin is an ethics challenged creationist cheerleader who has no business whatsoever being on a Presidential ticket.

Posted by: Agent Orange | September 5, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech was so flat, so disjointed, so utterly devoid of any vision or affirmative plan for the U.S. -- it's hard to say much about it, other than it sucked.

Posted by: x-Republican | September 5, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

OMG, you Obama people really are idiots! The Republican attack machine hasn't even warmed up yet and Obama has supplied them with enough ammunition to start WWIII. Please Google:

Ayers
Wright
Farrakhan
Odinga
al Mansour
Rezko

Believe me, the Republicans already have.

Posted by: indy4palin | September 5, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Since when does a vice-presidential candidate's speech lock in as many TV viewers, as the one given by a presidential candidate?

Something's wrong with this picture, that is, unless you're a Republican. Mac made the right choice on Palin, and now we Dems are going to be left holding the bag.

When are we going to learn, it's not about Abortion and Gay Marriage? This is fringe player placating, and so, we need to also get back to our original party basics, and stuff the special interest crap!

Posted by: reform artist | September 5, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Johnny Democracy | September 5, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

I love when commentators go on TV and say any Hillary Clinton supporter would not support Palin. That is very dangerous and insulting. Hillary doesn't own my vote. I voted for her in the primaries not because I agreed with all of her issues. I thought she was the best one to be president. I admired her strength and toughness especially when she gave the middle finger to the biased press and went on Fox. She had guts. When I watched Sarah Palin I admired her and she will have my vote. Hillary's demographics during the primaries was the white working class and hispanics. She was not winning the upscale whites. Trust me I live in Ohio and tons of Hillary's supporters are voting in the republican ticket.

Posted by: Kelly | September 5, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

That little meeting at Feinsteins went a
lot deeper than these armchair republican
strategist even want to know. Hillary and Obama made the VP decision together.
Hillary is in this camp and her talents are
needed in his administration much more than you would ever imagine. Palin..You might want to reconsider attacking organizers when Hillary takes issue with you. The VP pick was a MUTUAL decision.

Posted by: Amanda | September 5, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Whether Hillary is on the ticket is no longer an issue. Get with the present. Hillary and Obama are on the same page. The Democratic page. Hillary's future in politics is far from over but it very well might be if she doesn't help her party neutralize this token insult to the American intelligence; this attack girlie girl, this mendacious nasal-voiced "W" in a beehive. Hillary proved at the convention that she knows it's not just about Hillary - it's about the future of our country and the daily destruction of America by the republicans. And what about the media who was blatantly disrespected (shades of Richard Nixon) for daring to do its job? Where's the baby's birth certificate? The media has a responsibility to fully and properly vet to disclose all of the secrets and lies and debauchery before November.

Posted by: soc | September 5, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

I agree about Hillary being history. Her options are zero.

If Obama wins, he will be there until 2016; Hillary will be too old to even think about running again.

If McCain wins, there are two possibilities: either McCain and Palin succeed, or fail. In the first case, Sarah Palin will be next President in 2012. But if they fail, the United States may fall apart before 2012. No place for Hillary.

Posted by: berrymonster | September 5, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

The reason the Dems are waiting on Hillary to attack palin is simple really... Hillary is the only one who can attack Palin and not appear sexist. Seriously anytime a male democrat says something negative about Palin, even if it does not refer to her gender, the GOP side cries sexism. The GOP has been blaming the democrats for the slew of attacks on Palin when nearly all of the attacks are coming from independent media sources that have no connection to the obama camp. Not to mention that some Dems want to see Hillary make good on her promise to fight for Obama... thanks to groups like PUMA, there are quite a few people who will blame hillary if she does not fight hard and obama looses(it's certainly not true, but it is what a lot of pundits will say); it's kinda like how people blame 3rd party candidates for stealing votes from the loosing candidate. It's sad really... If not for PUMA, hillary would not be facing such harsh scrutiny; really they only serve to damage Hillary's good reputation and spoil her hard work...

Posted by: Monte | September 5, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Please Lida, don't fall for the Freeperss' antics. Those two (Who are most likely just one) were about as much Democrats as Joe Lieberman is now

Posted by: Longjohn | September 5, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

With Hillary's Campaign Advisors now long gone she's starting to play it smart again

If she had been more like this during the Primaries instead of taking bad advice from overpaid political Hacks like Mark Penn, she might very well have won

I hope Senator Obama offers and she accepts a major role in his cabinet, they aren't all that far apart ideologically and it's always fun watching Hillary knock the Republicans down a few pegs

Posted by: Longjohn | September 5, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Hey Hilliary supporters - take note.

If you really supported Hilliary because of her causes, join the wagon. I have. Obama and Hillary have the same goals.

What makes you think he has written Hillary off? Imagine this please. Supreme Court Justice Hillary Clinton. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Attorney General Hillary Clinton. A good executive places people where they have the greatest impact and then look at the choices difference between Obama and McCain. Clinton would have tremendous impact on our nation in any one of those roles. McCain placed Palin in the VP role because he can use her to shoot off her mouth so that he doesn't have to get crucified. Do we really need another Quayle? Do we need a Jesse Ventura? Do we need a Rosie O'Donnell? We need someone who doesn't speak before they act. We need someone who thinks through their decisions. Placing Palin in the VP position when McCain has a 33% chance of not making it to age 80 is too much of a risk for me.

My mother has decided that McCain is her man because she just can't vote for a black man and Sarah Palin dresses so cute. She even argues that a B. A. degree from the University of Idaho is just as good as a J.D. from Harvard. And, my mother went to college! Of course, it's in a red state. What does this say about the educational system in this country? You guys really need to start caring about the issues and unite in a common cause and quit daydreaming about 2012. Give her a chance to make a difference with Obama. Together, we can make change happen!

Posted by: Linda | September 5, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Hillary will likely take the high road approach with Sara Palin and if wise, Palin will do the same. Sara you are no Hillary!

As for the Obama Birth Certificate matter, go to the FactCheck.org web site for their complete analysis. They found the document to be authentic and provide a description of their investigation.

Posted by: Lou R | September 5, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

It's just been revealed that Wonder Woman Palin attended 5 colleges in 6 years. Just to get a journalism degree? Well, by W's standards, she is very ready to be president.

Posted by: palin the idiot | September 5, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

There are many other deserving Democratic candidates for state and local offices that Hillary needs to be supporting. Obama chose Biden as his "running mate" ... so let them run! But the way they are going down in the polls after the football stadium ... you know No-bama didn't make a touchdown!!!
Anyway, Hillary has a lot of work to do to prepare for 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 5, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

I hope Hillary Clinton does not do any more than necessary for this clown Obama ... he rejected her as VP ... his Campaign staff ridiculed her and slandered her at every turn ... she has already done more than was necessary for anyone in her position ... "the One" didn't think he needed her ... so let him run his own failing campaign ... his loss of an 8-point lead in the CBS Poll shows you that the people are now on to him!!
McCain-Palin '08
Hillary 2012 & 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 5, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Make no mistake - the republicans are grooming Palin to be their "W" candidate in 2012. They have already written off McCain as McLoser. Obama should announce that when elected, he will appoint Hillary his Secretary of State. Then before November Hillary should take on the "pitbull with lipstick" (or female dog that rhymes with rich). The Clintons are supposed to be excellent at neutralizing Republican attack dogs. Hillary is the only one who is smart, competent and savvy enough to do it although it shouldn't be difficult as Palin is all boobies and no brains. Maybe we could get Michael Vick to be the moderator.

Posted by: soc | September 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

May I remind you of George W. Bush's education? And see where that got us?

Enough said!

Posted by: Christina | September 5, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Hillary had the opportunity to make history: she just had to win the Democratic primary.

She lost. Several reasons: incompetent campaign managers, some stupid words by Bill, nasty attacks by the obamabots, MSM in love with Nobama. And, above all, the DNC, with their UNDEMOCRATIC way of disenfranchising millions of voters in Michigan and Florida.

Then, Hillary tried to get the VP nomination. She failed.

Finally, she had the opportunity to challenge Nobama at the Convention. Instead, she preferred to jump in Nobama's wagon, with the obvious intent of remaining a viable candidate for 2012. She just needed Nobama to lose against McCain and any MAN he picked to be his VP.

Guess what??????

McCain picked a woman. And not ANY woman. He picked a young, energetic, articulate, attractive woman, who happens to appeal to a broad range of people: middle-class and working class voters, moms, hunters, small-town folks, Christians...

By 2012, Sarah Palin will be 48 years old, ready to be the first Madam President. Hillary will be 64 years old.

Hillary could have made history.
Now, Hillary IS history.

Posted by: aaron87 | September 5, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Gosh, soc - weeks ago, you were bashing the Clintons and now you're looking for their help? If I were them, I'd tell the DNC to stuff it!

Posted by: Christina | September 5, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

According to wikipedia, John McCain graduated from Naval Academy ranking 894 of 899 (fifth from the bottom). Today we learn that Sarah Palin received her bachelor's degree in journalism after transferring five times in six years: Hawaii Pacific University, North Idaho College, University of Idaho, Matanuska-Susitna College, University of Idaho again. This means that as a first member of his cabinet McCain managed to find someone who is unlikely to overshadow him intellectually. If this is how McCain will select his administration, we are in for another Bush term.

I am not trying to look down on John McCain or Sarah Palin or sound elitist in any way. You know, I am not a rocket scientist myself. Simply, after last eight years, I have a really strong craving for a government consisting of people that would impress me with their intellect and education. Of course, it does not guarantee success, but I think it decreases the chance of failure.

Posted by: Dim, Texas | September 5, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Interesting.

Posted by: JakeD | September 5, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Barack Obama produce a valid birth certificate? The one he submitted is without the State Seal.

Posted by: Lucy | September 5, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

It's getting hotter and hotter and Senators Obama, Biden, Clinton and former President Clinton and others say nothing about Palin's terrible past and present and future.

What are they waiting for? Soon, it might be too late.

Posted by: Miriyam | September 5, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin can not prove she was pregnant by saying her daughter is now pregnant - the girl could be pregnant again, couldn’t she? Why doesn’t Palin produce a birth certificate. Why doesn’t a nurse or doctor in the delivery room come forward and confirm Sarah Palin gave birth? One of her daughters had that baby. Her exposed breasts this evening were not consistent with breast-feeding. This is not the party of family values. In Dayton Ohio McCain kept tugging at his wedding ring while oogling Palin’s breasts. Is he considering another divorce for another beauty queen? They trot out the handicapped baby and the pregnant unmarried teenagers to further their own political careers with no concern in the world for the psychological damage this could cause the family and the millions of impressionable teens watching. They’ve got Cindy dressed like Barbara Bush while Palin is dressed like a bad nightclub act. . This circus is an insult to the American people. The media, Obama, Biden and the Clintons owe it the American people to protect and save us from this trainwrek of a freak show.
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Posted by: soc | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Obama and his teams were sexist and introduced racism by falsely accusing Bill.

Posted by: Dave | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

BO does not get it.

Posted by: shawn | September 5, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

As someone who supported Senator Clinton through the primary, I hope HRC sets the record straight that there is no way on earth that Palin and Clinton attract the same kind of supporters.

For goodness sake, Palin wants to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape.

Enough said.

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

IMHO, I think Hillary is a classy and intelligent woman and it would demean her image to attack the opposing candidate just because she is a woman with limited experience. After all, Hillary had the close up experience of being the wife of a president, so she was privy to all the behind-the-scenes- goings-on. She should be knowledgeable about all issues.

Sarah did not chase after the nomination; she was sought out by a Senator who knew she was a neophyte. Look at Cheney...his role has been virtually invisible...yet, people hate him. Americans automatically hate and insult anyone who doesn't fit the mold of perfection they demand of everyone but themselves.

It's unfortunate this ticket can't be Clinton-Palin; women would love it!

As for discussing major issues in an election campaign..how could you expect to hear any with everyone catcalling and slinging mud and 'blue' comments.

From the words that have been uttered by Sarah, it's an easy matter to predict thousands more jobs in the oil industry and related ones, a drastic cut in administrative overhead expenses, less money wasted in useless political process, a less burdensome tax picture, more accountability..the list could go on. The oil industry is going to boom......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Hillary has no reason to "attack" Sarah Palin.
She's not running in this election; she's working to elect Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
The last thing she would want to do is inject herself into the middle of this very contentious situation and muddy up the waters.
Obama and Biden will take care of Ms. Palin.
She's bristling armor at the moment, acting like Joan of Arc, riding to the defense of the GOP neo-cons.
But she has a soft underbelly, and it's just a matter of time until our campaign finds the flaws.
It shouldn't take too long.
Ms. Palin is floating in an ocean far to deep for her minor abilities.
She won't be able to get by on a tart tongue and a smart-aleck attitude for long.
That may work in Alaska, but here in the lower 48, we're carrying a huge load, thanks to the same group that wants to keep the White House for their own personal use.
She's swimming with the big sharks now and when you're wearing a lot of heavy armor and a thin skin, you sink a whole lot faster.
I have no doubt McCain's going to be wondering soon where his mind was when he selected this harridan.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | September 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Hillary supporters must recognize that Obama's rejection and disregard for Hillary as the most qualified person for VP fractured the democratic party and alienated Hillary supporters, who after the selection of Sarah Palin by John Mccain, have found a new cause, a new leader and a way to support a talented woman to the White House.

Hillary supporters recognize that our country comes first over party and we recognize that John McCain is most qualified to be President of the United Staes of America and will give women the opportunity to prove the fact that they are able, capable and can perform as well if not better that men in any job if they are only given the opportunity.

Obama missed the train and has lost the support of all the Hillary supporters who will be voting for McCain/Palin in November.

Nobama!

Posted by: Manolete | September 5, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Hillary is a champion of the democratic party and will do whatever she can to help the democrats win. Palin is not worthy of airtime from Hillary. Hillary will direct her attention to McCain Palin generally, and wont play into the frenzied love fest between the media and Palin...

Posted by: Former Republican | September 5, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Heck with feminism. I can say for me what Palin’s pick means for me as a GUY: the American ideal that this country is a meritocracy is completely shattered.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been passed over for promotion or a job because I wasn’t “loyal” enough or “PC” enough despite being more qualified or even vastly more qualified than my counterparts. I figured that it was just a symptom in the companies I’ve worked for or applied to work for.

But then I’ve seen the similar “God, guns, and gays” loyalty test applied in the US Justice Department and the “heck of a job” FEMA nonsense during hurricane Katrina and figured the problem might be becoming systemic.

Now, tonight, with McCain promising “change” of all things and Palin accepting the VP nomination, he just institutionalized the problem. In my view, she is less qualified than Dan Quayle ever was and McCain picked her because she a woman and a member of the religious right. Change my you know what.

The dream is shattered. Completely shattered.

Posted by: LNDenver | September 5, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Hillary will ----slap this trailer trash back to the igloo she came from.

Posted by: DemoDevil | September 4, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Hillary doesn't have to attack Palin. Palin is so right wing, she will scare off independents on her own.

Against abortion even in the case of rape or incest? That plays well to about 15% of the population...of course those people demanded Palin over the guys McCain wanted, Lieberman or Ridge. McPandering!!

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is letting them finish up the convention and then I expect she'll let them have it.

Can anything top Jon Stewart last night?

Republican = Hypocrit

Posted by: espressobeans | September 4, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Hillary, as someone who had a really tough time deciding between you and Obama in the primaries -- and as someone who thinks that you have a huge future in the party and our country (you won't be too old to run in 2016!) -- go out there and tear this crazy woman apart.

Posted by: David | September 4, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

The reason Hillary is so quiet is that she is going to be in Fla. with democratic women on Monday.
Obama is employing democratic women to take on Palin so there is no sexism charges and the big gun is going to be Hillary.

Posted by: vwcat | September 4, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Hilary is better off with a McCain victory as it sets her up for a run in 2012. She may give Obama lip service but will want to quietly undermine him in this election.

Anybody else love to see Hillary vs Sarah in 2012?

Posted by: tom g | September 4, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

It is NOT her job to woo women voters. It is Obama's duty as the candidate. Please stop criticizing her for not running his campaign. We, the democratic party, chose Obama remember? He chose not to pick Hillary for the VP spot and opened up an opportunity for McCain to select a woman VP.

Posted by: Hillary Always | September 4, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

"WHAM, BAM, NO THANK YOU MA'AM! OBAMA-BIDEN IN 2008!!

Posted by: RAY IN TUCSON, AZ | September 4, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

What are you waiting for, Hillary?

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

* The Death Star is now in Range * = A surprise attack from the Clintons...

Watch the Democrats genuflect...

Seriously speaking, this is shaping up to be a very entertaining election.... I mean there is some good material .... I think Obama won the day with the "Got called worse on the B-Ball Court" comment while snickering....

Methinks this plays right into the Clintons to put to bed the final battle of the 20th Century:

Bush vs Clinton for the Soul of America

*Yoda Voice* Begun the Presidential Wars has...

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

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