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Obama and McCain Issue Joint Statement on the Economy

As agreed upon and promised earlier in the day, rival Sens. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), have issued a joint statement on the economy, below:

"The American people are facing a moment of economic crisis. No matter how this began, we all have a responsibility to work through it and restore confidence in our economy. The jobs, savings, and prosperity of the American people are at stake.

"Now is a time to come together - Democrats and Republicans - in a spirit of cooperation for the sake of the American people. The plan that has been submitted to Congress by the Bush Administration is flawed, but the effort to protect the American economy must not fail.

This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country."

The statement was distributed by the Obama campaign, along with the following note:

Speaking for himself, Senator Obama outlined the following principles that he calls on Senator McCain to support:

I believe that several core principles should guide this legislation.

First, there must be oversight. We should not hand over a blank check to the discretion of one man. We support an independent, bipartisan board to ensure accountability and complete transparency.

Second, we need to protect taxpayers. There should be a path for taxpayers to recover their money, and to turn a profit if Wall Street prospers.

Third, no Wall Street executive should profit from taxpayer dollars. This plan cannot be a welfare program for CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility has contributed to this crisis.

Fourth, we must help families who are struggling to stay in their homes. We cannot bail out Wall Street without helping millions of families facing foreclosure on Main Street.

Fifth, we both agree that this financial rescue package should move on its own without any earmarks or other measures. We have different views about the need for other action, but this must be a clean bill.

This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. This is not a Democratic problem or a Republican problem - this is an American problem. Now, we must find an American solution.

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 24, 2008; 8:37 PM ET
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"One will be leading the country shortly. Better their views be included in the discussions. Is that hard to understand?

Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:14 PM |"
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Obama has been in constant contact with the committee, they have yet to hear from McCain, he has had ZERO involvement.

It's high time he get IN FRONT OF THE NATION and tell us exactly what he intends to do as President rather than hide from the press and unleash a blizzard of B.S. from his campaign spokesman and plan his next political stunt.

Is that so hard for you to understand?

Posted by: JRM2 | September 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

You think people don't know when they are getting a home for half price, then?
Posted by: Billw

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Sorry, I have no idea of the point you are trying to make.
Posted by: Independent

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When interest was 1%, their monthly payment was around half what it should have been with normal interest rates.


Posted by: Billw | September 25, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

It's funny reading all of these intellectually-challenged Democrats. They think McCain is trying to get out of the debate tomorrow night? The debate on foreign policy?

Good one. If McCain was playing politics as much as Obama is, and wanted to stem the tide of the recent polls, he would have begged to move the debate up a day or two SOONER....not postpone it.

I can't blame Democrats though for their faulty assumptions....after all, logic and reason are not their strong suit.

Posted by: dbw | September 25, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

The current system of easy credit card, mortgage and college loans seems to be the root cause of economical downturn of this nation. As reported on TV, an Afro-America woman with monthly income of 1200 dollars was able to get a bank loan to buy a 600k town house in New York city , because the broker cheated the bank by stating the buyer is a beautician with monthly income of 10000 dollars. After all, the buyer and broker are small people. What is to blame is the system which allows the credit to become too loose and risky. The system is devised by Wall street executives with huge income and connections with politicians in the government dominated by the two parties.

Posted by: austin b | September 25, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

ALERT - THEY HOPE WE'RE TOO DISTRACTED TO NOTICE!!

If the Senate fails to reauthorize E-Verify THIS WEEK before the session ends, the entire program will expire in November!

E-Verify has been touted by the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security as "...one of the nations best and most effective tools for ensuring a legal workforce." And according to the General Accountability Office, "E-Verify is 99.5% effect."

Senator Menendez (D-NJ) has placed a hold on the E-Verify bill and is trying to hijack it by insisting on an increase of over half a million visas for foreign workers next year.

"The E-Verify Program MUST be authorized before it expires in November if U.S. Citizens are to believe our Congress is serious at all about restoring the rule of law," per Senator Sessions.

E-Verify is one of the governments most successful programs targeting workplace enforcement of our immigration laws and is now in danger of being eliminated.

The federal government has breeched its Constitutionally required duty under Article IV, Section IV to protect citizens and states from foreign invasion, instead choosing to play politics with the law and mislabeling the invasion (of an estimated 12-20 million armed and unarmed Mexican citizens and another 4-8 million non-Mexicans) as merely unfortunate--ignoring the $300+ billion yearly impact on local and state governments and landslide of negative impacts on Americans.

The leaders of this Democratic Congress are hoping U.S. Citizens won't be paying much attention as they try to betray us yet again regarding enforcement of our immigration laws and using programs that work against illegal workers. They are hoping We are too busy with the Presidential election and the meltdown of our economy, which illegal immigration has contributed greatly to, as our lawmakers still continue to pander to corporate america.

Dash Nancy Pelosi and Senator Harry Reids hopes that Senator Robert Menendezs' attempts to block E-Verify will work! Menendez is putting his personal views ahead of our national interests.

CONTACT YOUR SENATORS NOW - TELL THEM TO AUTHORIZE E-VERIFY!

Posted by: calumonit | September 25, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

davidm2902: I think you summed up the rip-off very nicely. there is already a lively market in foreclosed properties, and last I looked, the going rate is something like .40 to the dollar. So I assume this so-called bail-out means the banks want the government to give them substantially more than that (although we're not allowed to know that level of detail), because if they don't, they'll go insolvent, and the feds will have to make good on the insured deposits those fiduciary managers have squandered.

I am not a finance expert of any kind (you obviously know much more than I), but the only explanation I can think of for this is that they have run the numbers and found that given (X) number of banks declaring insolvency, the US Treasury will end up with (Y) obligations to depositors, and (Y) is something well north of $700-Billion. And the reason they won't talk about the details is that they figure if the world knew what the value of (Y) actually is, the US dollar would crash, along with all their ill-gotten dollar-based securities, etc. So they need $700-Billion to give themselves more time to relocate their assets so that when the inevitable finally does happen, they'll be sitting on a beach in Brazil, checking their ethanol futures.

Does that sound plausible?

Posted by: ted in pdx | September 25, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

McCain afraid to debate Obama? On foreign policy?!?! Puhleez! Obama has avoided almost a dozen calls for Townhall debates all summer.

McCain believes what he says, "Country First!".

It took a lot of courage on McCains part to make that decision. Absolutely brilliant!

Deal with it.

Posted by: Real Talk | September 25, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Could McCain be having a senior moment or is he just too overwhelmed by this crisis to debate?

Or, is McCain really being dirty and underhanded, trying to pull the wool out from under Barack's feet, when he reached out to him early Wedensday morning in a bi-partisan moment, so together they could show solidarity and release a Joint Statement, however, McCain did not like that idea and decidied to bring politics into an already unsteady situation in an attempt to aid his political career, pretending that it was he who reached out to Barack and not the otherway around! However, that was not good enough, he must one-up him and cancel the campaign all together, the crisis is so great, a sudden change of heart that makes McCain look phony and untrustworthy. That is not putting Country first, but we already know that by his Pallin pick!

And, of course, the debates should not be cancelled. A President has to be able to multi-task, big time! McCain's cancelling looks more like a senior moment or that he is too overwhelmed and distraught to be albe to explain to the country just what he would do to address this problem.

McCain the Wizard of Oz now pretends he has a heart, brain and courage! If so, its not working very well. His wall of lies and deceipt are closing in on him and soon there will be no place to hide, not even in the Senate. McCain you can run, you can lie, but you cannot hide.

Posted by: Angellight | September 25, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Help me out here, do I understand this right, bottom line is that our Federal Government will become TITLE holders of foreclosed properties, which, at some point in time (in the future), these same properties, will be re-sold, either, at a lost, at the same price paid, or even maybe, at a profit.
Now, if this is the case, is it not true, that until this particular point in time (in the future), all these foreclosed properties, which will now be owned by our Federal Gov., will essentially have to be, either shelved - not for sale (until the market comes back – when fair market value is equal to the amount of the note), or, auctioned off at a lost (pennies on the dollar, perhaps).
So, if this is the case, here is the problem, one of two things will happen;
1) While continuing to reduce my property value, the seven foreclosed homes on my street, will remain un-occupied (until the market comes back – when fair market value is equal to the amount of the note), maybe years.
Or,
2) Sold by the Federal Gov. at a lost, less than the Notes value, which again, will also continue, to drive down my property value.
So, if I have this right, how can congress be contemplating, loaning hundreds of billions of dollars to the Wall Street financial institutions, which in essence, will enable (Wall St.) to then, buy back the same Notes (which they had previously sold, dollar for dollar), and now, for pennies on the dollar. What kind of crap is this?
Now, here is an idea (just spiffballing here- whatever that means?).
Since, I have no idea, in what capacity, does the Federal Housing Authority function, maybe what needs to happen, is to turn the Federal Housing authority, into, the Foreclosed Housing Authority.
Next, congress needs to legislate, the authority, the funds, and a mandate which states, “All financial entities, which operate, in American home markets, shall sell all home properties, with a greater loan to value rate, to the new FHA, at the days current fair market value. This will prevent, all financial entities, which operate, in American home markets, from cherry picking, which bad loans, they are ready to give up on now, and those, they have not, quit, given up on, already.
This, will allow Wall St., to sell upside down properties (at a lost for them, allowing Wall St. to pay for its own mistakes) and, giving them (Wall St.), new revenues, to re-capitalize with. Thus, this will also create, a pool of housing, which, can then be sold with 30 yr. Notes, to low income families, at the fair market value, of the day.
Also, mandate to the new FHA, to give any family, currently in foreclosure, first right of refusal, to a payoff (at the days fair market value of the Note) to whoever currently possesses the property TITLE, then issue, a new 30 yr. Note., on that same particular property.
Now, nobody kid themselves, here is the reckoning;
- Rich people, will see their home values drop.
- Poor people, will now be better able to afford housing.
- Banks will lose money, but they will have money.
- There will be a new, re-distribution of wealth, in America.
In addition, in the grandest scheme of all, by righting this boat we are in, this can be an opportunity, for America, as a whole, to turn a negative, into a positive. This what I think, what do you think

Posted by: davidm2902 | September 25, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse

McCain said Obama called him first.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

There is a very easy way to check who is telling the truth. Just check the phone records to see who called who. The side that won't turn over the phone records is lying.
Did Obama call McCain or McCain call Obama.
Simple.

Posted by: Ken Weaver | September 25, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

I think that voting for the beat-up old guy and the beauty queen will fix this country really good. That will make our present problems seem quite minor.

Posted by: Bill | September 25, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Help bail out the taxpayers in this country before the corporations!

www.bail-outplan.com
http://www.bail-outplan.com

Posted by: John Q Taxpayer | September 25, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

"America's 1st Reaction -- Friday's McCain-Obama Debate Should Still Be Held On Friday, But Perhaps with New Focus: Immediately after John McCain's announcement at 3 pm ET today, Wednesday 09/24/08, that he was suspending his campaign and seeking to postpone Friday's scheduled presidential debate, SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 adults nationwide. Key findings:

A majority of Americans say the debate should be held on Friday. Just 10% say the debate should be postponed. A sizable percentage of Americans, 36%, think the focus of the debate should be modified to focus more on the economy. 3 of 4 Americans say the presidential campaigns should continue. Just 14% say the presidential campaigns should be suspended. If Friday's debate does not take place, 46% of Americans say that would be bad for America."

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

You think people don't know when they are getting a home for half price, then?

Posted by: Billw

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Sorry, I have no idea of the point you are trying to make.

Posted by: Independent | September 25, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse


American (Jefferson quote):
"The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

This implies the lending/borrowing process is determined solely by the banks. That is balony, no matter who said it.

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Posted by: Billw | September 25, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

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drossless:
"we must help families who are struggling to stay in their homes."

Oh' sure, help them again after they've lived in the home for half price! Let them go get a home they can afford. Now.

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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Thomas Jefferson: “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

Posted by: American | September 24, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

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Independent:
"It is too easy to scapegoat the "irresponsible people" who bought the loans, when the real culprits or the brokers who sold the load, the financial institutions who approved the loans and who came up with these ridiculous instruments backed by nothing to being with."

You think people don't know when they are getting a home for half price, then?

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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Let me try that again. :)

Billw,

It is too easy to scapegoat the "irresponsible people" who bought the loans, when the real culprits are the brokers who sold the loans, the financial institutions who approved the loans and who came up with these ridiculous instruments backed by nothing to being with.

Posted by: Independent | September 24, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

So here's the part that McCain didn't want to include in the joint statement. Do you agree with him?

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First, there must be oversight. We should not hand over a blank check to the discretion of one man. We support an independent, bipartisan board to ensure accountability and complete transparency.

Second, we need to protect taxpayers. There should be a path for taxpayers to recover their money, and to turn a profit if Wall Street prospers.

Third, no Wall Street executive should profit from taxpayer dollars. This plan cannot be a welfare program for CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility has contributed to this crisis.

Fourth, we must help families who are struggling to stay in their homes. We cannot bail out Wall Street without helping millions of families facing foreclosure on Main Street.

Fifth, we both agree that this financial rescue package should move on its own without any earmarks or other measures. We have different views about the need for other action, but this must be a clean bill.

This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. This is not a Democratic problem or a Republican problem - this is an American problem. Now, we must find an American solutions.

Posted by: drossless | September 24, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse


"How much worse could it be?"

Well, he didn't screw the pooch, did he?

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 24, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Jerk The Ripper,

Why don't you go peddle your hate someplace where people are stupid enough to believe lies, innuendos and twisting the truth.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Billw,

It is too easy to scapegoat the "irresponsible people" who bought the loans, when the real culprits or the brokers who sold the load, the financial institutions who approved the loans and who came up with these ridiculous instruments backed by nothing to being with.

Posted by: Independent | September 24, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse


GUESS WHO........

A Muslim Father
An Atheist Mother
A Racist Pastor
A Terrorist Friend
A Jailed Realtor
A Racist Wife
A Drug User
Said in an interview "My Muslim faith"
Said "Typical white people"
Calls women "Sweetie"

How much worse could it be?

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 24, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah like: "Fire Chris Cox from the FEC" or maybe "The economy is fundamentally strong". Well guess what, even Bernanke admits what many of us have been saying a long time, this house of cards is crashing.

Posted by: Independent | September 24, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

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Someone ask what the crisis is about.

Irresponsible people bought homes during the 1% interest era with a monthly payment half what it should be. Subsidized with money where the guy with money in the bank got almost no interest. In other words he paid half the persons payment or more. Then interest went up to normal, the man's payment went up and he couldn't pay. Now the responsible guy with a little money saved is about to have to pay again. Cute, huh?

Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama and McCain should demonstrate their ability to lead by building consensus in Washington over how to address this issue rather than debating with each other over what they would do if they were President. They are leading Seantors now they should act like ones (or maybe they are)! Talk is cheap, actions speak louder then words.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse


austin b:
"The government has failed to stop this madness, because they let the corporate world to do what they want"

Exactly, and the 'straw that broke the camels back' started with 1% interest on the goon Bush's watch.

Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

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Carol:
To repeat, I think McCain felt that FULL attention to the crisis by both He and Obama was appropriate, and they'll likely be all weekend in discussions. DELAYING THE DEBATE FOR A WEEK IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE.

Caps used to "get your attention" re my former reply.

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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Why suspend your campaign when the bailout bill is about to be signed?

Trying to grab some of the glory, like when you jumped down to south america when you knew the hostages were about to be released?

McCain is a feeble pretender.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

What we are suffering now is the result of madness of badly created loans by large number of financial institutions, like playing Russian roulette, for the sake of making profit while disregarding the risks and danger of defaults and bankrupt of whole institution. The government has failed to stop this madness, because they let the corporate world to do what they want

Posted by: austin b | September 24, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

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usa3:
"would you REALLY want Bush there as part of the direct negotiations between people who have some clue?"

Absolutely. At least I could get in a jab at the goon about what the 1% interest helped do under his watch.


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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

like obama says if you need me call i guess he does not think the congress needs him which id say is more then true nancy and harry says so. the debate really isnt important. doing the job the one the voters and taxpayers put you there to do is

Posted by: wtobias | September 24, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

To Billw,

Well, I have to quote Letterman on McCain: "What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!"

Presidents have to deal with many emergencies at one time. Why can't McCain?

Posted by: Carol | September 24, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

One will be leading the country shortly. Better their views be included in the discussions. Is that hard to understand?

Posted by: Billw

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No, it isn't hard to understand and you don't think they have already done so? All their presence does beyond meeting at the White House tomorrow is politicize even further the work of the people who need to do it. Think about it, would you REALLY want Bush there as part of the direct negotiations between people who have some clue?

Posted by: usa3 | September 24, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Who came to the rescue of the steel industries, the textile industries, the airlines, the heavy industries, the hog farmers, the small dairy farmers, the animal feed industries, and I could go on all night. Wall Street has put everyone out of descent paying jobs and sent them overseas and then favored illegal aliens over tax paying American citizens just to make a few more bucks. If they had been farm boys like I was they should have known that if you want to milk a cow you have to feed her.
Let China take over Wall Street and the Government, they have been doing a lot better then us and own us anyway.

Posted by: Old Coot | September 24, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

"NEITHER OBAMA NOR MCCAIN ARE ON THE SENATE FINANCE OR BANKING COMMITTEES AND WILL NOT BE TAKING PART IN THE CONGRESSIONAL NEGIOTIATIONS!"

One will be leading the country shortly. Better their views be included in the discussions. Is that hard to understand?

Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I think Palin should go in McCain's place, after all she is the one with the "executive experience". She can put the bad debt on eBay.

Posted by: usa3 | September 24, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

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Carol:
"Why is McCain turning everything in to political stunts?"

Stunts? I think McCain felt that full attention to the crisis by both he and Obama was appropriate, and they'll likely be all weekend in discussions. Delaying the debate a week is of little consequence.


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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's be clear here...Obama called McCain early this morning to do a joint statement.

McCain did not want to be outdone by Obama so he and his campaign come up with this last minute "debate delay to fix the Financial Market" crap to distract Americans.

And of course, GW Bush plays along with some crap to invite Obama and McCain as well as other congressional leaders to the White House. NEITHER OBAMA NOR MCCAIN ARE ON THE SENATE FINANCE OR BANKING COMMITTEES AND WILL NOT BE TAKING PART IN THE CONGRESSIONAL NEGIOTIATIONS!

What are they (especially on the Republican-side) going to do move this bill along faster? The majority of the House Republicans are against the concept of bailing out the financial markets with taxpayer money, PERIOD!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 24, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

This is like the "Keating 5" all over again....and McCain is again in the middle of it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

Posted by: k9-4 | September 24, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Go and get a lean on all homes, private jets, investments, etc. of the players who were CEOs and top managers in all of these institutions and make them pay all of the money back.
This is what they do to drug dealers! The people who were asleep at the switch(or playing golf) were not paying attention to their clients monies or investments.
Especially when they were getting paid fortunes they should be responsible...Any other profession this would be malpractice.
On Wall Street it is just another day and someone elses dollar! Just ask Henry Paulson, head of the DC bail out who walked away with over $500,000,000.00 of his companies money after making millions for years!!!
Mr. Paulson just wanted a blank check with no oversight. He has been a member of Wall Street for too long. He needs
to be very closely supervised.

Posted by: zakidzaki | September 24, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

The heart of the matter is that all of them, Bush, Paulson, Bernenke, and the Congressional leadership refuse to explain the exact nature of the threat. The only explanation I can imagine for that is that they all share culpability for some portion of whatever it is, and the more relentless they are in avoiding that answer, the more I am inclined to believe that the voters of this country must stand fast in opposition to this until it is forthcoming.

All of the peripheral discussion is secondary to that central question, and why they all believe that the only solution is to hand over public funds to private companies in order to 'save our economy'. What is most disturbing is that both our Presidential candidates appear to have abandoned their constituents in order to protect themselves and their colleagues from public scrutiny. In short, we have no leadership left who stand with the electorate.

Posted by: ted in pdx | September 24, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

to Billw,

Obama outlines his suggestions for the bailout in the Obama add-on to today's joint statement. He is also attending the same meeting as McCain tomorrow.

Why is McCain turning everything in to political stunts?

Posted by: Carol | September 24, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

"Perhaps he will rub the monkey paw again"

Hey man, go rub your monkey off. You'll feel better.

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 24, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Debate as scheduled, if rescheduled make it the next day. Thanks to bush helping McCain and his snow-day tactics. No "I'm not ready for the test", when you've been ramming it down our throats that you've been ready this whole time.. As for Palin oh just f6ck it...

Posted by: erik | September 24, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

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McCain: "I have to focus on one thing at a time!"

Obama: "We can keep working on all fronts!"

Sure, Obama worked three days on practicing for the debate. Like a schoolkid preparing for a school play.


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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes, McCain attended a Muslim school while he was growing up in Panama.

His step father was the local witchdoctor, who passed on his lucky monkey paw to little John jr McCain.

McCain rubbed the monkey paw today, and had a new insight - PANIC! STOP! NOW! I LIKE TURTLES!

Perhaps he will rub the monkey paw again during the debate on Friday...we shall see and fear!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

You said palin is a genius of reform just send her. #1 when it comes to balancing the books..... oh we are talking for real?.. nevermind

Posted by: erik | September 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse


Pamela:
"Oh my gosh! I didn't know McCain was Muslin!"

He noted his muslim faith a week or so ago.
Why was that?

Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse


Actually BillW, I think it's more like this:

McCain " ~ Let's try to fix this crisis first"
Obama " ~ "I can do both."


Well, the crisis can't wait long, so what exactly is Obama doing about it?

Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain needs a vacation NOW!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh my gosh! I didn't know McCain was Muslin!

Posted by: Pamela | September 24, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain: "I have to focus on one thing at a time!"

Obama: "We can keep working on all fronts!"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Actually BillW, I think it's more like this:

McCain " ~ Let's try to fix this crisis first"
Obama " ~ "I can do both."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

"the copier is too hi-tech for mccain"

Maybe he could from read the koran to Obama.

Posted by: Jack The Ripper | September 24, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Nicely put, Ted in PDX.

Posted by: Pamela | September 24, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

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McCain " ~ Let's try to fix this crisis first"
Obama " ~ "No, I want to debate now, not next week"

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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

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Anti-moron:
"Neither McCain nor Obama can change the course of what is happening on the hill right now by attending."

One or the other will be leading the country shortly. Better to get in there and let others in the decision process know your views.


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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

maybe they can get coffee and run the copier...

the copier is too hi-tech for mccain

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

This is how I would answer the joint statement by Senators McCain & Obama:

Until the Congress and the President define the specific nature of the crisis, continued calls for the support of the American people for a massive expropriation against the credit of this nation is unacceptable. The continued failure of our leaders to provide this explanation suggests that corruption and malfeasance on the part of both parties and the President may exist, and that massive public funds are required to either repair it, cover it up, or both. Until there is a suitable preamble which defines the nature of the economic crisis we are being asked to confront, the voters of this country cannot render a judgment as to the legitimacy of the proposed remedy.

In the spirit of bi-partisan compromise, I suggest that Senator Obama and Senator McCain, and their respective running mates, appear on Friday night at the appointed time and place for the debate, and be prepared to fully disclose to the American people in the clearest terms possible the nature of the threat, and the rationale which justifies the assumption of $700-Billion in assets currently held in the private sector as the sole appropriate solution to this crisis.

Until that disclosure is forthcoming, there can be no democratic discourse, and no citizen of this nation should be asked to endorse this drastic distortion in our fiscal obligations.

Posted by: ted in pdx | September 24, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting that in his 3rd principle, Senator Obama makes a strong point that "No Wall Street executive should profit from taxpayer dollars" and "This plan cannot be a welfare program for CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility has contributed to this crisis"; however, in his 4th point he does not make a similar point regarding homeowners who (in many cases) took out loans for homes they really couldn't afford. Maybe these homeowners just believed what they were told; but, would it also not be wrong for this bailout to be a welfare program for them? Is it any less wrong for them to profit from a bailout? Our family saved and purchased a house we could afford and are fortunately not in need of a bailout. Things are tight and while I am compassionate and am actively involved in helping others, it feels wrong for the government to give money taken from those of us who made wiser decisions and give to those who made poor decisions. I support a way to refinance their loans if they can truely afford the homes they purchased but not the absorption/abolition of their losses. Which of these the Senator supports is not clear to me.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

what 'work' will either of them actually do?

they will 'work' on it?
do they type?
are they contract law experts?
finacial whizzes?

wht will they do, that the established committees aren't already doing?

other than use this as a campaign stump...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

It sounds to me like McCain is chickening out of the debate, because he's just not ready.
They ought to go to Washington and then fly to Mississipi after the measure has passed and give their perspectives on it during the debate. Americans deserve to hear the details.

Posted by: Nkirv | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's a great idea, McCain. Send Palin to Washington to handle the bailout crisis, so that you can prepare for the debate.

Oh, right...

Posted by: an American | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

MC CAIN RUNS FROM HIS NIXON SWEAT MOMENT

to hide behind Bushes skirt so start with the "Great (Fear) Depression Campaign tactic"...wait only a weak ago they critiscised Obama for "weakening"


TO OLD FOR MULTI TASKING ...

Posted by: col in paradise | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Frank already has said a bailout will pass this week. So what will be McCains excuse now?

Posted by: Voter | September 24, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

healthcare for a family, almost 13k/yr
annual mean income 40k...

do the math

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

O'Hara, I think Travis's posting was indeed juvenile and degrading. But I hope this problem isn't compounded by enacting a rapidly-passed and little-thought-out bill. The backbone of this country, middle America and poorer, stands to be raped even worse than it has already been.

Posted by: Pamela | September 24, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain knows its over.

Posted by: Mike | September 24, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I guess it would be too much to ask for Professor Obama to interrupt his voyage of self-discovery to work on something as pedestrian as a financial crisis.

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 24, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

So exactly what commission is McCain on. Oh Yeah right NONE. The only thing he has to do is VOTE. This little stunt is only fooling the people who lack in critical thinking skills.

Posted by: Sickofthelies | September 24, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

who holds over 1/2 of these bad notes?

russia, china, saudi, kuwait...
NOT Americans...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

"Otherwise on Monday the stocks will really plummet."

Posted by: O'hara


HAHAHAHAHAHA O'hara you really are naive if you think stocks are gonna do anything but that for the next couple years, Many millions of ARM's are on the verge of adjusting, this is Wall Steets "Big Dig" the total cost is in the trillions easy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

.

. . Obama Votes Present Again . .

Take a moment to read Obama's reason for not taking time off to do his job in the Senate regarding the worst economic problem since the great depression (source NY Times, in Obama's own words)

"So in my mind, actually, it’s more important than ever that we present ourselves to the American people and try to describe where we want to take the country and where we want to take the economy, as well as dealing with some of the issues of foreign policy that were initially the subject of the debate.”

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Posted by: Billw | September 24, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who actually believes Paulson (Ex-CEO of Lehman) and Bernake have a clue to what they are doing is smoking crack!
Unless they are just wolves in sheep’s clothing!
This is the greatest fleecing of America in history!
This is a last minute move to keep the rich healthy and the sick poor.
I say we need to have a forensic accounting of each and every company that will be bailed out and we do not need to save any other countries when we cant even save ourselves.
I think the whole issue needs to be shelved and let the next president have the final say on how and if the taxpayers should pay for the rich ceo's to keep screwing us.
Why should we save companies that have raped their assets since 911 and now want us to bail them out so they can do it again.
Better yet, put the decision to the American people on the November ballot and be done with it!
If we simply let it be until the new president then bush doesn’t get to screw us one last time.
Bush and his associate thugs should be tried for terrorism to the USA.
We had no right going into Iraq in the first place!
You do realize that the 800 bn will become 1.6 tril or more when all is said and done!
And the countries we are going to help have nationalized medical so instead of bailing anyone out, why don’t we just put that much money into a national healthcare that includes dental and medication at say a 100 dollars per usa citizen @ year and let the chips fall where they may.
I mean really, how many people percentage wise have over 100k in the bank?
Besides that, with the new standard of credit scoring, 80% of the country wont even qualify for a loan at this point unless it’s a ludicrous rate!

Posted by: amertrstfl | September 24, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

It was extraordinarily generous of Sen. McCain to let little Barry take half of the credit for this statement.

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 24, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I find it incredible and frightening that anyone still takes McCain and Palin seriously. If McCain really thinks he needs to put in his 2 cents in Washington, he should use his cell phone and e-mail and be at the debate. Look at the coverage he would get by outlining his plan for recovery to the entire nation. I think he's afraid the public will see that he isn't presidential material.

Posted by: Pamela | September 24, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

first, who says this as bad as they are making it out to be? them?

maybe letting everything 'adjust' is the correct course of action...

give tax breaks to those defaulting on their mortgage, or a grace period...

we are just prolonging the inevitable re-adjustment and baselining which must eventually happen...we are living on credit as a COUNTRY...fix that, and the rest of the problems will fix themselves

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

travis; you are just the type of youngster this country doesnt need,
As for the discussion posted here it is full of false information.
John McCain is putting the sountry first as usual, Obama wants to win and figure out what to do later.
If this isnt solved promptly we all lose
and the enemy will take advantage of our weakness. Lets pray the bill will be revised tomorrow and over the weekend.
Otherwise on Monday the stocks will really plummet.

Posted by: O'hara | September 24, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

neither of them can do anything, other than vote on the compromise worked out by others...

they are not on any of the committees doing the work...

this is 'grandstanding' at its worst, and as transparent as a pane of glass...

anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional...

this is a bandaid, a tril $ bandaid...

the real problems are yet to come:
energy
SS
deficit
healthcare

this is nothing compared to what is yet to come...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

wHAT HE THINKS HIMSELSUPERMAN OR SUPERPOLITICIAN!!! pOLITICAL ACROBAT AT THE 27TH YEAR DOEN'T HELP!!

Posted by: JOJO | September 24, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"Now if he can only get those darn kids to stay off of his lawn!"

Did you recruit your monkey friends to try to get McCains' pet dogs pregnant??? That's so thoughtful of you!!! Then you can claim McCains' dogs have borne their own children with african monkeys. Way to beat McCain again.

Posted by: chris | September 24, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

look foran attack on Iran next...
then a suspension of the election and martial law, errr, emergency powers...

it's coming

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

For John McCain to renege on his commitment to participate in the debate on Friday is a HUGE SLAP IN THE FACE to Ole Miss, the Commission on Presidential Debates, Jim Lehrer, and every network and member of the media who planned to cover the debates. The NY Times today ran a terrific article called "Debate Host, Too, Has a Message of Change" that detailed the changes that have taken place at the University of Mississippi since they admitted their first black student in 1962. What an exciting event this is for them!(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/24miss.html?th&emc=th) If this latest stunt does not convince people that John McCain is unstable and unfit to lead, nothing will.

Posted by: ann | September 24, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

HOW CAN THEY OFFER A 'SOLUTION' WITHOUT KNOWING THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM?

TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOV'T AGENCIES
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress is being asked to rush through emergency legislation -- to cede effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis. But were lenders ORDERED to offer "easy credit" to people "targeted" by government agencies?

Is government "targeting" of American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?

Consider this:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis OR
members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener | September 24, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

One canidate want to debate and one wants to fix the crisis. Who is right? Is their a right or wrong? Have we lost sight of what is important? Why do politicians need to "put aside politics for the good of the country"? Is it politics that got us here? Why is Washinton trying to restore our confidence that they are capable to lead this country? Isn't that what they have been doing? We are approaching another election, should we really vote for the same people who have placed this country in this position? What is the the right LONG TERM path to fix this situation? Is it to keep this country divided between Democrats and Republicans or is it time to express our displeasure and vote for one of the other parties? The Green Party? The Independant party? Perhaps for someone who ran but did not make it to the final two? We the people need express our displeasure with the way we vote. Why complain about what is happening when we can vote the trouble makers out of office? How many people have voted for someone because "they are going to win anyway"?

Posted by: Confused | September 24, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I agree that McCain can and should do his job as it relates to the financial crisis AND participate in a debate in the same week.

Now if he can only get those darn kids to stay off of his lawn!

Posted by: Ethan | September 24, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

this money is coming out of our pockets. it helps fat cats and hurts us. the govt needs to have less of our hard earned dollars; not more. what happened to ' for the people, by the people'? trash the irs! return to the gold standard! that is the only way to get through this for we the people.

Posted by: SR | September 24, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, I took the campain suspension in a different light - seriously, conceed and get on with what is important! Why not? Well aside from losing the support of his friends he'd probably lose millions on other private "investments."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Tricksy, very tricksy, McCain. You learned some great maneuvers from the VC.

Posted by: QUIT NOW JOHN | September 24, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

"I cannot believe that in this time when we are facing the greatest financial disaster since the Great Depression, that the focus once again comes down to partisanship."

I agree that the two parties have become more about gang warfare than ideology. People should indeed let go of the shallow lib/con illusion.

But I don't agree that this means trusting both candidates. Rather it means trusting neither.

Posted by: Gorge M. Boosh | September 24, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

bradcpa,

Let's not give Phil Gramm more credit than he deserves, he was only one of the architects of the disastrous framework of rampant deregulation which was promulgated upon the unsuspecting and duped American public. He had plenty of help including John S. McCain.

Posted by: Independent | September 24, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain is wussing out? Wow, I thought he was some sort of tough guy.

Posted by: Yee Haw | September 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

sue every manager of every lousy company and put liens on ALL their houses and bank accounts and negate their contracts! Run them out of town, to rural America where they can learn some common sense and values!
Then maybe give some of the money, for the bail out .....THEIRS....GET SOME BALLS...

Posted by: m.obenour | September 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I believe McCain's stance is very appropriate. Suspend the campaign, country first. Senator Obama seems intent on politics and getting his words in the press.

Posted by: Mike | September 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, another populist speech in the senate is what we need from McCain.

This trick will cost McCain.

Posted by: John McCain | September 24, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Obamabots,

Does this joint statement not indicate to you that Obama and McCain are the same gift in different wrapping?

Posted by: Dan Ballz | September 24, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Asper Girl -
That is because everything John McCain has put forward were developed by the serious advisors of Obama such as Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin. Carly the lady who lost half the market value of HP and Phil "the whiner" Gramm are his advisors. Gram got us into this mess. McCain's idea of reform is get rid of the regulators.

Posted by: bradcpa | September 24, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe that in this time when we are facing the greatest financial disaster since the Great Depression, that the focus once again comes down to partisanship. If the problem is that dire--and it is--then BOTH McCain and Obama need to go to Washington and see that it gets fixed! Stop this he said/so I said nonsense. Work together for the common good of the people and our country!

Posted by: Jaquie | September 24, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Neither McCain nor Obama can change the course of what is happening on the hill right now by attending. The best these candidates can do is to help the country understand what they will do beyond this mess to run the country, what they will do to recover from it and prevent this from ever happening again.

Not having the debate and god forbid the election for that matter is a copout. It is unfair to all the people (A vast majority) who desperately want to turn a chapter on the mess the Bush administration and congress left us in. There is increasing information to suggest that the market (Banking particularly) has enough liquidity to buyout the good parts of failed institutions and let the losses for the bad parts fall on the stakeholders rather than the tax payers. The idea that we have to act this quickly looks more and more like a ransom attempt by wall street: If you don’t give it to us we will make you sorry…. George Bush is a weakling and does not deserve the time he gets to pretend that he even remotely knows what the answer is. He is just listening to the advice of investment bankers that have never had any but their own interests in mind. If you ask an investment banker to solve the problem he will save the investment banking system.

What we need is for Obama and McCain to finish the election so that we can move on and fix the economy for the people and not for the few rich fat cat wall street bankers.

Posted by: Anti-moron | September 24, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

ok ... so they can hold a debate and promise things that we may or may not be able to deliver or they can go to Washington and work together to do something now ... seems obvious to me that doing something now and returning to politics later is the right choice

Posted by: Dave | September 24, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

On votenader.org, Ralph Nader has a draft of regulatory bill provisions for the $700 billion dollar swindle that's about to pass so the Senate can run home to campaign. Why don't I see a blog about that. This "joint statement" is not a definitive resolution from either of the mainstream candidates...who seem not to even want to debate each other, let alone 3rd parties.

Posted by: Karen | September 24, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Phil, but I have a difficult time seeing your point.

Do you disregard reality because of your blind allegiance to a party?

Posted by: mwf | September 24, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Why do we need McCain? He can't produce half as much sperm as Barack does. If I can't make my girlfriend pregnant, I will ask a black brother to help me. I am a young white male, but there is so much to appreciate in an endowed black man. Get off the bus, McCain.

Posted by: travis | September 24, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

An independent voter's perspective:

If McCain had gone back to Washington to participate in the shaping of this legislation AND held the debate as-scheduled, I would have to say that he was performing honorably.

But this is a classic "false dilemma" technique used by high-school debaters and bad politicians. There is absolutely no reason that McCain can not do both.

McCain's motives and fears seem to revolve around participating in open public debate about the issues behind this crisis. Both candidates would be well-served by using the debates to provoke some honesty and clarity in this issue. This will not play well for the Republicans.

Posted by: Rob@ | September 24, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

The Repubs BETTER make it difficult!! This piece of legislation shouldn't even go through! It is unconstitutional!!

Posted by: pootats | September 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Sure doesn't read like a "joint statement". You have framed it and explained it as an Obama statement. You have not included McCain's reform suggestions or other comments of his framing this proposal.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 24, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Major McCain Blunder. Washington does NOT need Presidential politics at this time. The waters are muddied enough. Indeed, he brings absolutely nothing to the table-- he has said he has no clue about the economy. What Congressman, Republican or Democrat would go along with anything he says? This is purely political - the Republicans thought the MSM was against them before...wait till the media figures out this political stunt- to buy Sarah more prep time or whatever it is....McCain: Afraid to Face the American People-- Not Ready to Lead!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Please Senator McCain we see this as a stunt-- Politics at this time is NOT needed in DC. A "Maverick" by definition is someone who marches to a different drummer or doesn't work well with others-- this explains your lack of accomplishments after 26 years on Congress- never having a real job always cashing the taxpayer check...McCain: Afraid to face the American People. Not Ready to Lead!

Posted by: Common Man | September 24, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain is spent, all he's got to show are cheap tricks, flashy diversions. The more he does them, the more he reveals himself: no substance, just clever dodging.
I thought I would never say it, but he makes Dubya look brave

Posted by: sous | September 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain has missed more votes than any senator in this congress...65%

I imagine he can take three hours off in his private jet...his wifes anf got to a debate.

He sees th epolls changing, knows his chief of staff has answering to do with getting paid by Freddie mac until last month....please

What a coward to bring divisivemess into this at such a terrible time for some of us.

Posted by: mamabear | September 24, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

As I read John McCain's speech today I heard very plainly in there his campaign theme: "Country First." This has been the heart of John McCain and Sarah Palin's campaign and not only are they saying it, they are embodying it. It is one thing to make statements, it is a whole different thing to live up to the statements being made. John McCain did the same thing the first day of the Republican National Convention when he chose to postpone activities to focus on the hurricane victims and he continues to show that he is a man of his word now. A candidate who is a man of his word and does what he says he will do is more than worthy of the office he seeks.

As to the debate, I am inclined to agree with John McCain on that too. There will be plenty of opportunities to debate, however this is one opportunity both candidates have to act on their concern for the country they desire to serve as the commander and chief. On one hand we have an actual leader who wants to show his support for his country and put off the debate till they have at least attempted to deal with the economy, on the other we have a selfish power hungry individual who would rather debate in public his positions instead of act on his integrity with some kind of concern for everyone else.

I think John McCain down through his compaign shows himself to be a man of integrity and a man of good sense. That is why I believe he is the best man for the job he is looking to take on. A man who knows how to call shots and knows why he calls them.

Posted by: Philip | September 24, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain once again showed himself to be a spoiled and capricious child. Stumping his feet on the ground and refusing to debate.

Posted by: thor | September 24, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

My friends:

In case you're curious, I have posted a recording of the phone call I made to invite Sandra Palin to be my running mate.
http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/mccains_voice_mail_to_palin_le_8644.php

See, I learned how to use the Internets! Now get off my lawn!

Posted by: John McCain | September 24, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

President Obama has made his position clear about the legislation and it is identical to what Frank said and Mr. Magoo who's 72 agreed to this morning. Mr. Magoo who's 72, delusional and lost his head of staff today because of Rick Davis' ties to Spank My Fanny who was paying him $15,000 a month. President Obama will be front and center to explain to 300 million Americans how he and his administration will solve the excesses of lying, child bombing, oil thieves run amuck. Mr. Magoo who's 72 may not know how to get to Oxford, home of the Rebels, a great place for a true reformer to slice and dice Mr. Magoo for sport. Magoo will show, once again proving he has no conception of what the hell he's doing. Obama and Biden 08 and stop the bleeding!

Posted by: bob II | September 24, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

The Commission on Presidential Debates has confirmed the debates will proceed: Here is the link from the U of Mississippi web site:

http://news.olemiss.edu/index.php/Ole-Miss-News/Debate-News/debate_cpdstatement.html

"Oxford, Miss., September 24, 2008 - “The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) is moving forward with its plan for the first presidential debate at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Miss. this Friday, September 26. The plans for this forum have been underway for more than a year and a half. The CPD’s mission is to provide a forum in which the American public has an opportunity to hear the leading candidates for the president of the United States debate the critical issues facing the nation. We believe the public will be well served by having all of the debates go forward as scheduled."

Posted by: Lisa St | September 24, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I suspect that the Republicans are going to make this difficult before a deal is cut.

Posted by: Rabid John (McCain) | September 24, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

The debate should go on, as scheduled.

Posted by: Susan | September 24, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

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