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Obama: Bush "Tinkering Around the Edges" in Iraq


Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) speaks about a plan to prepare students for the global economy during a campaign stop at Stebbins High School on September 9, 2008 in Dayton, Ohio. (Mike Munden/Getty Images)


By Peter Slevin
DAYTON, Ohio -- Continuing his criticism of President Bush's Iraq war strategy, Sen. Barack Obama called a press conference today to say the president is leaving too many troops in Iraq and sending too few to Afghanistan.

Obama, speaking to reporters in a high school gymnasium during a campaign stop, said the details laid out in Bush's National Defense University speech this morning are a continuation of "the same strategic mistake that has dominated our foreign policy for over five years."

Bush, he said, offered "some tinkering around the edges and kicking the can down the road to the next president." He said it appears "the next president will inherit a status quo that is still unstable."

The approach would not mean significant numbers of new U.S. warriors in Afghanistan until February, said Obama, who has advocated the deployment of two combat brigades to help stabilize the country and search for Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders.

"His plan comes up short," Obama said. "It is not enough troops, not enough resources, with not enough urgency."

On another issue, Obama volunteered that he is "troubled" by reports that executives of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could walk away with multimillion dollar settlement packages.

He said he sent a letter Monday to Treasury secretary Henry Paulson and U.S. Federal Housing Finance Agency director James Lockhart "to make it clear that it would be unacceptable" for the executives to receive a windfall amid the government's rescue of the troubled companies.

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Hold on America,don't you listen to your own news updates. Your military is very worried about taking your men and women out of Iraq. It's not really as calm as President bush and your Polititions say. You are way to optomistic about winning. Just the calm before the storm. And the storm is comming.

Posted by: justadad55+ | September 10, 2008 6:56 AM | Report abuse

How long would it take for Iran, Russia, Venezuela, North Korea, al Queda ... to test Barack Obama's courage? And how would a man who distrusts middle America react? What would a man who sits silently, nodding his head while Farakhan and Jeremiah Wright spew vile about America - what would he do? Hey, I'm all for vetting a presidential and vice-presidential candidates, but be fair. The Koch story and the "Obama has raised a ton of cash" story - is that really news. So Joe Blow endorses BHO - is that a story? Someone find me some footage of Barack sitting in the pews at Trinity Union Church.

Posted by: David | September 9, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"Mr. Obama has never served in the military. What does he know about sending troops to Afghanistan or anywhere else? How can you lead when you have never served? Posted by: sally"

You mean like those wonderful Draft Dodgers, Geoerge W Bush, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitcz, Richard Perle, Dan Quayle, Pat Buchannon, Newt Gingrich, ... ... ... Don't give me George's or Dan's Guard Service, because neither did more than run and hide where they couldn't get pushed into actually serving anything but their own self interest. George can't even prove that he actually served after flight school. The pictures Quayle's campaign produced of his time in uniform show that he wasn't to careful about properly wearing it. Al Gore and John Kerry served, in Viet Nam. Were you in favor of either of their candidacies?

Oh, and jsut to trade war stories, I own eleven of the fifteen battle stars awarded for campaigns in Viet Nam. Where did you serve?

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I know you recall when Obama called Iran a"tiny" threat; well, at least he admitted to Bill O'Reilly that the Surge succeeded beyond "anyone's" (except John McCain's) wildest imagination....

So, do you recall the scene in The Godfather when Clemenza asks Tessio, "What's with all the new faces?" and Abe responds, "we're gonna need all we can get, Sonny just hit Bruno Tattaglia"...well, Obama's gonna need all the money he can raise, Joe Biden's at it again- today fresh from his false drunk driver claim, he tried to tell family's with disabled children that McCain was against stem cell research- I guess he had Palin on his mind, everyone else in this country does- she's against embryonic stem cell research- McCain isn't. His position for embryonic stem cell research is one real distinction between McCain and Bush and is one reason the far Right was lukewarm on his candidacy.....Come on Joe, keep it up- we want at least 4 more gaffes before the debate! MCain is nearly tied with Obama with women voters and leads with white women voters as of today, but Joe can really put us over the top when we pull out the Anita Hill hearings....remember? Call Clemenza!

Posted by: Scott | September 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

"hm, i thought Obama was promising a pull out of troops to make everyone happy, and now he's wanting to add MORE troops saying that Bush isn't using enough? Sounds like he's grasping at straws now. Posted by: wonderment "

Another Geographically challenged republican.

Barack has been in favor of [putting troops in sufficient numbers in Afghanistan all along. In fact, one of his arguments against Iraq troop levels is that Troops in Iraq prevent us from sending sufficient troops to Afghanistan.

But don't feel bad, ole Palin Drone, because your Hero John, "Give us four more years to lie to you about change" McCain doesn't actually seem to know the difference either.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

"Like we really need someone from the Carter years anywhere near the Oval office...... Posted by: Hellen"

Yep, we can't have anyone who can get Peace in the middle east between Israel and any of her neighbors. Or avoid war With Iran, instead using diplomatic pressure to compel Iran to behave, and return to treating diplomats as diplomats. Oh, Yeah, and reducing the budget deficit every year of his four years in office.

But all you Robust Republicans think making peace is a sissy thing. Better to make war, and then run and hide from sacrifices that are needed when you get us into war. By the way, Carter was all the things a Naval Officer ought to be, that McCain wasn't. To include competent at his job. Graduated 59th out of 820 graduates. Was pepping to command Nuclear Boats when his father died. Can both spell and pronounce Nuclear.

Not that you might want any of that in your particular candidate.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 9, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

"hm, i thought Obama was promising a pull out of troops to make everyone happy, and now he's wanting to add MORE troops saying that Bush isn't using enough? Sounds like he's grasping at straws now. Posted by: wonderment "

Another Geographically challenged republican.

Barack has been in favor of [putting troops in sufficient numbers in Afghanistan all along. In fact, one of his arguments against Iraq troop levels is that Troops in Iraq prevent us from sending sufficient troops to Afghanistan.

But don't feel bad, ole Palin Drone, because your Hero John, "Give us four more years to lie to you about change" McCain doesn't actually seem to know the difference either.

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow....Interestingly, the ones hurt the most as a result from the Bush, McCain policies are those poor apalachian (we know what that means) and the hard working middle class. They are loosing their homes, healthcare, social security, educational opportunities, banking accounts, jobs, financial stability, and more. But these are folks that vote these fools into office. Although they are most affected negatively by these fool's policies. It's quite interesting, even sad that these folks vote on race, personality, likability, but not based on pocket book issues. This, my friend is very scary. It says a lot about the intellect of the folks in this country. Now I am beginning to get a clear understanding of the civil war, why it was fought and how it was won!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain surged ahead in North Carolina and Montana today, and he also posted stronger than usual numbers in Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida. Full roundup here: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/09/09/poll-watch-convention-aftermath

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

McKong looks real Presidential or should I say a Presidential troll! lol

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Love it a McCain Administration:

Joe Libermann ... to head the Pentagon or be Secretary of State

Cindy McCain to reform the Health Care syatem in America

Rudy Gulianni for Housing & Urban Development ... anything with deep pockets

Romney for Governor of Alaska he has done it before in another State

Cheney to backfill for Sarah when she on mat leave

Posted by: Can you Imagine | September 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

For goodness sakes - stop copying and pasting full, boring articles from other sources. For one, it's possible copyright infringement. For two, it shows you have nothing original on your own to say - these posts are supposed to be discussion of personal ideas, not a proliferation of ideas from other sources.

Posted by: Muad'dib | September 9, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain is more the same of the BS crap that we have had for the last eight years. More Iraq like wars, more deficit spending and more tax cuts for the rich. More more more of the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg

Posted by: Bush + McCain = "W"orthless | September 9, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hello "my friends" I am GWB the COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE ... look how much compassion I spewed out on the American people over these last 7/8 years. Vote for my buddie John McCain a WRECKLESS CONSERVATIVE - both he an GI Sarah/Jane will rescue the country and put it back on track. I looked far and wide for a capable replacement in the oil business ... and got John to buy into a quick marriage with Sarah ... He hardly knew her ... but, he got it right. Instead of holding hands with the Saudi Prince, I can now feel secure that my BLIND TRUST will be overflowing. Now I can be compassionate!

Posted by: GW | September 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Do an internet search on "McCain" "Keating", McSame was one of the infamous Keating 5 senators who accepted campaign donations from convicted felon Keating and then tried to block the feds from prosecuting him.


Do an internet search on "McCain", "campaign" and "lobbyist". McSame currently has over 70 lobbyists working on his campaign, Obama has ZERO!! McSAME is no agent of change.


John McBush may very well be dumber than Republican President Shrub is.
Listen to how little he knows about the economy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo

Posted by: huh? | September 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Hello Folks:

This is all you need to remember of when you vote come November 2008:

Reflect on the last 8 years ... other than security of the homeland which is paramount ... what has the Bush Administration done for this "Country First" versus what he done to destroy Amerca's standing abroad?

If you forget ... you get what you deserve.

There is a RED SUN rising in the far East.

Posted by: HillRaiser | September 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Frank.....you are so corecto!!! In the hisory of the United States there have only been white Presidents, some okay and some not so okay. We have just witnessed a REAL DUMB white President for the past eight years! My God, the U.S.A. is a laughing pot to the entire World. We have been recognized as being one of the dumbest countries. When GWB won, the world was quoted as saying "One thing is clear, 51% of America is dumb (those who voted the jackass$ in office again) and 49% was smart (those who didn't vote the retarded IDIOT back into office)!

FACT: CAN'T BLAME THE BLACK MAN FOR SCREWED UP THE COUNTRY...BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A BLACK MAN TO FIX THE SCREWED UP COUNTRY.

Posted by: AMEN!!! | September 9, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with being happily stinking rich and utterly detached like McCain is. Nothing, that is, unless you make criticizing your political opponent as "elitist" and "out of touch" a centerpiece of your campaign. Rick Davis, speaking on behalf of his $100 million man John McCain, earlier this month offered the latest formulation of Barack Obama as an effete, aloof denizen of the upper class:

"Only celebrities like Barack Obama go to the gym three times a day, demand 'MET-RX chocolate roasted-peanut protein bars and bottles of a hard-to-find organic brew - Black Forest Berry Honest Tea' and worry about the price of arugula."

Of course, Davis' "arugula war" is just another attempt at misdirection. After all, John McCain's $5 million threshold where "you move from middle class to rich" is just the latest episode of his enduring disconnect from the real lives of the American people.


For starters, McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, was back with the campaign last week.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.


In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:

Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.

Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."

*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."


And so it goes. John McCain proclaims $5 million finally makes you rich. Meanwhile, ABC's Charlie Gibson thinks a $200,000 income makes you middle class. And his colleague Cokie Roberts claims Barack Obama's vacation to his home state of Hawaii was "exotic."

Posted by: "I can't remember how many houses I own, I'll have to check on that" - McCain | September 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

In the hisory of the United States there have only been white Presidents, some okay and some not so okay. We have just witnessed a REAL DUMB white President for the past eight years! My God, the U.S.A. is a laughing pot to the entire World. We have been recognized as being one of the dumbest countries. When GWB won, the world was quoted as saying "One thing is clear, 51% of America is dumb (those who voted the jackass$ in office again) and 49% was smart (those who didn't vote the retarded idiot back into office)!

FACT: CAN'T BLAME THE BLACK MAN FOR SCREWING UP THE COUNTRY...BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A BLACK MAN TO FIX THE SSCREWED UP COUNTRY.

Posted by: AMEN!!! | September 9, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain looks real presidential taking high road because of all these baseless attacks from obama camp. Obama looks diminished running VP against palin.

Biden, irrelavent and not in focus right now. Good for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

He doesn't seems to have any solutions. I have been observing this guy and he just attacks and give speaches thats all. "just words no deeds". Thats obama.

That too words are also not his own, stolen from others.

www.barackbook.com
for more info

Posted by: joseph | September 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama! stop winning and playing the same old attack politics.
You have been attacking anyone and everything since past 2 years but what are your solutions?

Show us your solutions to problems that we are facing today and what matters to us the most.

Posted by: jon | September 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain has never voted for the bills that would add funding to the GI Bill because there has alwas been far too much pork barrel spending thrown on top of it by the Democrats. It's pretty simple really.

Posted by: Muad'dib | September 9, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Why the Heck was McCain against the GI Bill funding for what he SUPPOSEDLY cares about? He's voted against every bill to increase funding for what he claims to be concerned about. This man talks out of both sides of his mouth. HE HAS NEVER, repeat, NEVER, supported our American Military through his votes for funding. Double talker period. This man is a sham! He is a hoax and liar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS9rWU834LU

Posted by: Don't get to comfortable with your little convention bounce, Wingnuts! | September 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I have voted with old Georgie Boy...that is the current retard, idiot of a Prez, Georgie Boy Bushie 90% of the time, I voted against more money and help for the vets, although I cried like a coward chicken during the Vietnam war and wear my fake arse earned stars on my chest because I know that there are a lot of dumb, uneducated, gun toting rednecks that will believe anything I say because they want to blame minority groups for their failures and poor living and moral standards. I voted against universal healthcare, I LOVE lobbyist, as a matter of fact I sleep with them every chance that I get. I don't have much morals, I was able to get rid of that old cripple wife waiting for me when I returned my coward arse back from the war so that I could marry my current clueless, dried up tomato, but rich c$unt! I love spending her money..she has many problems, specifically stealing and drugs....but I was able to successfully sweep that under the rug and the news media knows not to p$iss me off and report any of this crap...they better stay on Obama and continue to give me an my new c$unt, Sarah a free ride! By the way, I can't wait to do Sarah, you know she is an undercover freak who cheats on her husband with his best friend whose wife later divorced him. Well back to the issues, or lack thereof, I love war and look forward to killing another 4,000 or more soldiers in a useless war, just so long as me and my rich cronies...the rethuglican base continues to make millions with the big oil companies. You know something...hmmm...I don't think that most of my redneck base even know what a lobbyist really is! Well, I could care less about clean air, hell$ I voted against that bill every chance I got. Plus Sarah, said that God is in charge of the climate and he is the reason why the Jews keep getting murdered because God has a vendetta against them. You know something I like throwing religion into this politics thing cause religious folks (well the evangelicals - (redneck religion folk) can't seperate the church from the government...Well I am John McCain and I approve this message. Hey isn't that what I am suppose to say...You's didn't give me my memory medicine....I thought you's were going to wait till I became the president to declare me senile so that Sarah could step in....well anyway, I'm signing off now....Bomb, Bomb, Bomb away!!!

Posted by: John McCain | September 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain is shaping up to be worse than Bush. He stands for nothing and constantly changes his views to suit his audience. Who knows, he will probably insist he never said any of the more war stuff. It would not surprise me. He is a fraud and an opportunist. He has used his military bona fides (which are questionable) and presented himself as a hero. I am more afraid of this man than of Bush and Cheney and that's saying a lot. He is the fear card.


WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqtL-P8kzo

Posted by: orange crush | September 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Here Obama goes again with the "blah blah blah George Bush...blah blah blah George Bush..."

He had better wake up soon and realize he's not running against George Bush and McCain has already effectively separated himself from the Republican party - that's how most of middle America sees it anyway. Obama's current tack of linking McCain to Bush is failing and he needs to find a new strategy.

The sad truth of the matter is that this race has very little to do with real facts surrounding the candidates - all of them have enough bones and skeletons rattling around in their closets that it's truly hard to vote for either one based on merit. The truth of the matter is, the race will be won or lost on basic perceptions about these candidates.

Right now the perception is that the McCain/Palin campaign is new, vibrant and energetic - ready to get things done for the American people. The perception surrounding the Obama campaign is dull, borning, whining and complaining. They keep trying to sling mud in an effort to get it to stick to the other party, but the momentum has shifted and Obama is no longer the bright new face in the Presidential campaign - facts have very little to do with it.

Posted by: Muad'dib | September 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye America!!! The once Great Nation is going down the Drain if this numb nut (McCain) gets in office, what the f#ck is this world coming to, and people will still vote for him, I dont get it America my own people f#cking this country up.
Why?...Why?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kyXN4ZVQg

Posted by: astral99 | September 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

So Sarah, how's the book banning coming along? Make any headway?

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I am Sarah Palin and I have a problem with telling the truth and if you call me on it, I am going to scream "sexism" and then threatened to get you fired! Don't you mess with me, I am a pit bull.....excuse me I am George Bush with lipstick on!

I am Sarah Palin and I approve this message! Yes, I do! I am not lying! This is the truth! Stop it! This is true! Believe me! I am a liar! I have a problem...Is there a lying annomous program somewhere?!! I lie just lie George Bush...you know the retarded Prez!

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

For you hacks trying to make sense of why it's so "bad" that Steve Schmidt (ala Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove) is in "full operational control" of McCain's 2008 Presidential campaign, let me sum it up for you:

These are the same blood suckers that brought you the Iraq War and the ones that are on the top tier of the military-industrial complex pyramid, a group that fuels conflict to further line their pockets with the spoils of war, i.e. big no-bid contracts. See: Halliburton.

Hey, if you're into war, and war-profiting, vote for McCain, my friends.

If you want America to be respected on the world stage again and for someone to lead this nation back to respectablity, then vote Obama/Biden '08.

Enough said.


Posted by: Maybe you like War Mongers | September 9, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

No Joe, you're supposed to be going after Palin. Did you forget your V8 today? You know what happens when you don't get your vitamins.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey, arent I supposed to be challenging McCain on foreign policy?

Where am I? OMG!!! I just saw Britney!!!!!!! OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joseph Biden | September 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"We finally have an upright and forthcoming individual ready to lead this country out of the worst 8 years in recent American history and all they can do is lay on personal attack after personal attack and dodge the real serious issues facing all Americans as a nation."

This has been the GOP's tactic for a long time. Sad to say, it normally works. The general public have long believed the words of the media/politicians. This election, however, dawns the new age of voters being able to get informed via services previously unavailable to them. Although not enough are actually researching information, at least some are. It's a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I am Joe Biden . . LOOK AT ME!!!!

uga, uga, uga, woof, woof, meow .. . uga, uga, uga . .. (does moonwalk dressed in womens panties) . . .uga, uga . . .IS ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME YET?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

uga . . .uga . . .uga. . .

Posted by: Joseph Biden | September 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

It's great to hear the Republican hate machine spewing forth venom and lies. We finally have an upright and forthcoming individual ready to lead this country out of the worst 8 years in recent American history and all they can do is lay on personal attack after personal attack and dodge the real serious issues facing all Americans as a nation.

If you believe that McCain/Palin is going to help ease the burdens of the middle class you are sadly mistaken. It will only be four years of the same.

We need new ideas and new direction in this country, my friends.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Factory Worker, Akron Ohio | September 9, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Hellen

And we have people working for the McCain/Palin ticket that worked for Bush/Cheney. What's the point you're trying to make?

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I am Joe Biden and I wear lipstick too! DONT FORGET ABOUT ME!!!! I wear women's underwear toooo!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joseph Biden | September 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This election has nothing to do with issues or popularity polls but rather the actual candidate that bumps off a mutual opponent wins in November.

Apparently this mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is now targeted to be bumped off.

The questions are...

1. Will the GOP use Guiliani-like mob-ties like his protege Bernard Kerik who may be doing 140 years of jail time for it?

2. Will the DEMS use an OJ Simpson-like person with a record and may be doing jail time in near future?

3. Will both parties engage in sweetheart exchange deals where these convicted felons do the actual dirty work of bumping off mutual opponent in exchange for lesser jail time and candidates/parties are never suspected in public?

4. Given that this truth is revealed, should we begin to worry about the general safety of our families where ever we are in public or private? For example, do we have to worry about traveling on Port Authority buses from NJ to NYC tonight? Or tomorrow?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 9, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

scrivener
It's not uncommon for people to stay working in the Goverment or different campains for years. Now if you'd take your meds like the Dr told you, you would have time to look at the people working for Obama Biden. They are the same people who worked for Carter and Clinton. What's up with that? Like we really need someone from the Carter years anywhere near the Oval office......

Posted by: Hellen | September 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Seems like a lot of folks are perfectly happy sitting here in the boiling water - record deficit, mortgage defaults up, unemployment up, and still hoping to re-declare "Mission Accomplished!" on a psycho-loony war we're now stuck with.

Sure, elect McSame so he can show what a great warrior he is. Why not war with Russia, they deserve it, don't they?

From the buzz, it seems way too many people were just itching for a reason to vote for final destruction of the country. Too bad Alaska didn't just secede and take the stunning Ms. Creationism with it.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | September 9, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"Uncle Sam $407 billion in the hole".

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/09/news/economy/cbo_budget_update/index.htm?postversion=2008090913

Well, if the magic number is $250,000 and you want to continue the same of the past 8 years, then vote for McCain. If you are under $250,000 you better believe, you're gonna be in the same soup line with us $60,000 a year folks and the rich will continue to hold on to their millions and won't feel a thing for your pain.

Posted by: Liza | September 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

scrivener, your just an idiot. Everything is Bushes fault. He had JFK and MLK killed.

Oh and by the way, he came up with the false moon landing too.

It's time you got back on your meds.

Peace

Posted by: Allen | September 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Actually it's more like 25% of white people (who are 70% of the population) won't vote for a black person.

The problem is that most racists are already Republicans in Deep Red states.

I love it when Republicans, after years of denial, are so STUPID as to admit their bigotry.

Look, the notion that Republicans are Racist isn't exactly a newsflash. It's a 40 year old story...

But racists can keep telling their kids that racism is OK, and justified. But the God they people profess to believe in will judge racists for their actions.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Republicans red herring ... get the American people speaking about Sarah Palin for weeks on end ... then no one will discuss THE REAL ISSUES that hurt the American people ... and by Rove's calculation McCain wins the election ... because we are speaking gender, race, culture and experience ... FORGETTING that George W. Bush HAD NO EXPERIENCE ... but, was a guy you can have a beer with ...Unbelievable!!

Posted by: TheTruth | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Bush is making his move now in a attempt to help McCain. You don't make a move like this 56 days before the voters go to the voting booth and all of a sudden he has a answer?

Bush left a mess. A mess that will take years to clean up. Republicans should be held accountable until its clean up. They should be accountable for 2010 and 2012 elections. It might take that long if not longer?

This will still be a divided government. Look how the Republican's have block
bills from passing since 2006.

Obama/Biden will work with all parties and end this mess, this gridlock. McCain is just going to keep up the negative ads which are dividing this country with wedge issues.

Posted by: Bobby | September 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

As for Iraq, it always has been an operation designed to protect our access to oil in the Middle East.

Right after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Saddam, our buddy who helped us bloody the Iranians, made his ambitions clear. April Glaspie (you could google it) told her that we didn't care if Iraq invaded Kuwait; when they did, we went to war with Iraq. We lied them into our trap. That was the original sin there. Iraq II was just a continuation: we could have negotiated for tough inspections, but we wanted to put our puppet in charge of Iraq. That is working out lovely... Not.

But the bottom line is that Bush I and Bush II LIED to the American people.

Blood and Money for Oil. That's Iraq.

And I love April Glaspie's retort that we didn't think Iraq would take ALL of Kuwait... Give me a break. It has all been a big LIE.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 9, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

25% of Americans will not vote for a black man in the WhiteHouse ... so, there goes the last great blacvk hope ... another 100 years. Sarah gets to be President #45 even though she never earned her stripes as Hillay did ... Hillary deserves it most and to be the first ... but, sexy Sarah wins in the end.

Posted by: TheTruth | September 9, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Vote for McChainy, I mean Mack Cain.

Posted by: sonsofsnakes | September 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

truthplease,

There is no winning in Iraq. There is only leaving Iraq. McCain doesn't want to leave Iraq till we've won, but since there is nothing to win, by his terms we won't be leaving there.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

John McBush absolutely terrifies me.


I mean that. I'm scared sh#tless of what this psycho will do if he wins.


If my options are concern or terror, I'll take the former. McCain is a monster waiting to be unleashed.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=PdJUCU1UH2w&rel=0&eurl=http%3A//
.

Posted by: McCain is a psychopath | September 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

thousands of soldiers are dead, but millions of babies are dead before they even had a chance to live. The soldiers lives are precious and priceless, and the babies lives are precious and priceless. Our soldiers are choosing to risk their life, but unborn babies haven't had a chance to live.

I still don't see how you can justify killing millions of people. Thousands of people is a tragedy. Millions of people is atrocious. And there's no one else to blame except us - the terrorists aren't killing our babies, we are. We are in the middle of our very own modern day genocide. Vote McCain, let him help us win this Iraq war so our boys can come home. Let's come home with victory or else we won't be the great country that we are supposed to be. And save our babies.

Posted by: truthplease | September 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Dem must now pay the price by not choosing Hillary as real Nominee, now they want she should bail out BHO, This is Change for Dems

Posted by: Bindal | September 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Read Bob Woodward's "You are accountable Jack" ... Washington Post today to see where John McSame gets his foreign policy ... The JCS opposed the surge .. stating that America needs to withdraw from Iraq (yesterday's Post) to win. Soemwhere in ther narrative you will see the stated plan to stay in the region approximately 50 years. Thus McCain's statement 50/100 years

Posted by: TheTruth | September 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

justadad55+

I have to ask, do you even know what wiki is? Because apparently you don't if you're saying that it's a valid source of information. And saying that a teacher is not an important profession.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What the heck are people talking about "Obama now wants more troops in Iraq"? LEARN TO READ, he wants more troops in Afghanistan, where Bin Laden is (or was, thanks to the ineptitude of our current President).
And @sally: By your standards, every president should be in the military... yay! A military junta to rule the USA!

Posted by: Daniel Rivera | September 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What has been said that is untrue or not factually correct? I just pointed out what is part of public record. All these men have served in those capacity and those organizations are real. If you don't think the information i presented is valid fact check it on your own accord.

Posted by: IronComments | September 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Dzik, we are not in a war. A war would be us defending against someone who has attacked us, or us being the aggressor in the situation. We had no reason to go to Iraq in the first place, since the problem lies in Afghanistan and Pakistan. There is no winning or losing, either way we lose. We lose soldiers that are fighting a pointless cause, we are losing $10 billion dollars that could be used here in America instead of rebuilding the country that we tore apart. Face it, we lost as soon as we entered Iraqi soil.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: shawna | September 9, 2008 2:10 PM

TEACHER, let the people speak, shame on your comment. Perhaps you should join the military, or explain the housing and job loss, lack of support for your heros in a war that was illegal and what they have to come back to in your Country. What will happen when you Heros come back?? Never discourage your students to grasp everything in life. Wrong job your in, sorry to say.

Posted by: justadad55+ | September 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama should just sit quiet when it comes to national defense issues - he is just PATHETIC - he wants to loose the war that we are wining - AMERICA WAKE UP - VOTE MCCAIN

Posted by: dzik | September 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Great line of attack. McCain's caught on the backfoot on middle east foreign policy.

Posted by: Falcon | September 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Marianne, how about keeping your slanderous lies and ignorant ways to yourself eh? The world would be a lot better place without people of your caliber.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Shawna, all I can say is...Amen.

I'm sick of people siting Wikipedia as a source of information. Do people not realize that wikipedia is written and updated by anyone who wants to? It seems like there is no credible sources anymore to find truthful information.

Posted by: Xander | September 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

In fact wikipedia says ironcomment is a moron Oh My God it must be true
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_journalism#See_also

Posted by: shawna | September 9, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

No matter how the ignorant Republicans try to spin it...Iraq is a failure and has been since day one. Over 4000 dead Americans, 25,000 Americans crippled for life, 75,000+ dead Iraqis and a 1 trillion price tag...courtesy of the American people. And what has been accomplished? Nadda. I say, let the Republicans have the White House and inherit their own self created mess. Let them be responsible for our country going down the toilet....where it is already headed. One would think that Americans would "get it" after 8 years of Republican disaster. But no...Americans are apparently too stupid and unconscious.

Posted by: Robert | September 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

WE committed $2 trillion dollars to Iraq... and China won the first multi-billion dollar oil services contract.

Bush can't even do imperialism right.

Out with the neocons - and (Sen.) Mr Magoo.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Somebody should tell this freak Obama to go home. This man is not playing with a full deck. He thinks he knows everything. Putting this flake into the White House and in charge of the mighty american military can only spell disaster. In Berlin he told the people he can walk on water and he is the second comming of Christ. Heaven help us.He is a anarchist and he hates the US. His wife is even more radical. His method of mistreading Hillary and now abusing Sara Palin shows his true nature.

Posted by: Marianne | September 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I THINK BARACK IS PATHETIC TO SAY BUSH DOES NOT UNDERSTAND!! IN FACT BARACK DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING, HE IS A USELESS, BARACK DOES NOT HAVE ANY QUALITY LEADERSHIP, EXCEPT THE LEFT WING MEDIA PUMP THE AIR ON BALLON AND IT IS READY BUST

Posted by: riral | September 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Who should we trust on national defense?

Let's see, Harvard Law School or serving your nation in the military? The real choice for Commander and Chief is obvious. McCain is the only one.

Obama should refrain from making statements on national defense. He sounds like bitter neophyte.

Posted by: Rick F | September 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Some videos of John McCain in his own words that voters for or against him ought to be aware of.

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/49248-mccain-s-mansions-the-houses-that-greed-built

Posted by: Just Watch and Learn | September 9, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

If you're going to try to make a legitmate point you should find a reliable source rather than an internet encyclopedia that anyone can write in. Honestly I used to fail students the minute I saw wikipedia in a paper do better research.

Posted by: shawna | September 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Its nice to see Nobama is for increasing troop numbers this week since he was opposed to it last week and was for it the week before and opposed it the week prior to that..............

I have to respect his guy for the fact that he will do anything and everything to get elected, insult the intelligence of the American public seems to be his number one approach

What a sponge - leeching off McCain’s leadership. This guys lack of real experience becomes more apparent every day.

Posted by: Robert Campbell | September 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama seems to be a day late and a dollar short on every issue. His inexperience is really starting to show. The more Obama talks, the more people shift to McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Rick F | September 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama has never served in the military. What does he know about sending troops to Afghanistan or anywhere else? How can you lead when you have never served?

Posted by: sally | September 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama is tinkering around his war on children in abortion clinics also.
45 million of them since 1973.

He's for human rights.....as long as you can talk.

Save a terrorist knock off your kid Obama/Biden 2008

Reply: What is the Republican side on abortion? Nah
Yeah! Lets take beauty peagents to run the country and know nothing about politics.
Right, go for Re-pukins. Please save McCain from cancer 5th time.

Posted by: Khan | September 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Is Obama getting a bit shrill. I always get the feeling if we had all just listened to him, he is from Harvard, nothing could ever go wrong. Where is Joe these days. That's right, he is looking up the current campaign definition for CHANGE! Wait Barack, they can't use CHANGE, we trade marked it already. We should sue! Not working at http://www.bop-o-rama.com?

Posted by: acarponzo | September 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

It sounds all to familiar. Bush was right about the surge in Iraq, so the Obama wants credit for a BIGGER 'surge' in Afghanistan. Again, he is not listening to the the commanders on the ground.

On Fannie and Freddie, let's not forget that it was Obama who took over $100,000 in campaign contributions from those executives he is now complaining about. McCain to no money from those lobbyist.

Posted by: Rick F | September 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Iraq is a dead issue. Obama needs to find some smart way of tearing down McCain and Palin before it's too late.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA / BIDEN 2008!!

GO HOME McCain and ... whats her name?

Posted by: Derek | September 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

What more do the Repuk's need? GWB is a liar & it has been factually proven! Thousands or US soilders are now DEAD because your Repuk Prez lied to America and the rest of the world and you unintelligent Repuk's still want to place a person in office that AGREED with GWB over 90% of the time, he voted FOR the illegal occupation of Iraq by US troops and selected a religious whack-o liar as his VP!

Posted by: luvwknd | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

no, he said he wanted more in afghanistan a while ago...

Posted by: MI Ky | September 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama is tinkering around his war on children in abortion clinics also.
45 million of them since 1973.

He's for human rights.....as long as you can talk.

Save a terrorist knock off your kid Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: Steven Wilson | September 9, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

hm, i thought Obama was promising a pull out of troops to make everyone happy, and now he's wanting to add MORE troops saying that Bush isn't using enough? Sounds like he's grasping at straws now.

Posted by: wonderment | September 9, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

You need to read history

Posted by: highsnake | September 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bob Dull | September 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

WE WELCOME BACK THE "BARACK ATTACK"...
BUT OBAMA NEEDS HILLARY TO DELIVER A BODY BLOW


Looks like Obama has gotten the message: Get out there and keep swinging and you'll land your share of solid punches.

Not only that, but Barack is finally making news with each campaign stump appearance.

He's giving as good as he's getting... but the problem is, this race has turned into a GRRL POWER thing.

With less than two months to go, Barack may have to try his own "Hail Mary"... but in his case, it might be a "Hail HILLARY."

Promise Joe a Supreme Court seat, anything... but find some pretense to put Hillary on the ticket, where she should have been from the outset.

Better late than never... If Palin is still left standing after this week, it's looking very ominous. There is still a lot of subdermal hate and fear in the American body politic...

Perhaps the only body blow that's left is for Obama to go to the bench and put Hillary back in the fight...

... not on the under-card, but in the main event!

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 9, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

TO: Mssrs. CHERTOFF, MUKASEY, PAULSON, GATES, McCONNELL, MUELLER

"GOV'T AGENCIES SUPPORT DOMESTIC TERRORISM"
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/government-agencies-support-domestic-torture-and-gang-stalking-says-noted-nowpublic-com-columnist

What do you know about this, and what are you doing about it?

Posted by: scrivener | September 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

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