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Obama Dismisses Palin Criticism

By Shailagh Murray
YORK, Penn. -- Sen. Barack Obama dismissed the harsh criticism fired his way last night at the Republican convention as part of the problem in politics, asserting this afternoon, "At some point we've got to stop that and get serious."

Speaking to a group of factory workers at a hydropower equipment plant, Obama refused to address Gov. Sarah Palin's mocking assessment of his background and political rise. When a member of the audience asked him to weigh in on the resume issue, Obama responded, "I'll let Governor Palin talk about her experience, I'll talk about mine."

But he rebuked the GOP in general for focusing almost exclusively on biography in St. Paul, Minn., and for attempting to redraw old partisan lines.

"You wouldn't know that this is such a critical election by watching the convention last night," said Obama. "I know we had our week, and the Republicans deserve theirs, but it's been amazing to me to watch over the last two nights."

He continued: "You're hearing a lot about John McCain, and he's got a compelling biography as a prisoner of war. You're hearing an awful lot about me, most of which is not true. What you're not hearing is a lot about you."

Obama has built his candidacy around a pledge to change business as usual in Washington, and for 19 months, he has had the stage to himself as an up-and-coming political wunderkind. Following her forceful speech last night, Palin is now being hailed as the conservative answer to Obama -- perhaps the spark that helps McCain to connect with the evangelical and rural voters who have never completely fallen for him.

But as Obama aides and supporters digest the Palin speech, they believe it may signal the re-emergence of the very hard-edged politics that Obama has railed against, especially with disillusioned independents. How that may play out at the polls remains unclear. But these insiders believe it could help Obama to draw his own sharper distinctions about both the style and substance of the leadership he would provide.

"The thing that I'm insisting on in this election is we can't keep playing the same political games we always play where we attack each other and we call each other names," said Obama.

"They've had a lot of speakers. And if they had a bunch of ideas, you'd think they would have put 'em out there by now. And so the question is, what's their agenda? What's their plan?"

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obama has met his match... in a vice president.

thus, he is not presidential material and his vice president, well, where is he again? hiding in some closet somewhere? biden is irrelevant.

all the while, mccain is left open to swing as he wish because obama the wannabe is fighting with a subordinate. what a pity for the dems... checkmate.

Posted by: demo_nomo | September 7, 2008 5:01 AM | Report abuse

Pitbulls with lipstick need to add some FOUNDATION!!

Posted by: Jackie | September 6, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Jesus will decide this election, and I believe that he will put Palin and mcCain in the position of power. Christians across the us are praying for God's will and I believe it will the christian woman who has God's ear. I declare that John McCain and Sarah Palin will be the president and vp of the US. Obama would sell us down the river to any islamic cousin in his family or in the world. Beware of the danger to america. Christians rise up and declare Victory is what God told me to do and I did. I declare that John and Sarah will win in Jesus name.

Posted by: mbrown15 | September 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

:) you sounds like radical obama pastor wright on this comment :) which bible do you read? To me Jesus is the savior! He is the only way!


"JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Gov Palin did a great job getting the GOP excited about Sen McCain and telling numerous jokes about Sen Obama and Sen Biden. She also detailed more of her experience as a mayor and governor of Alaska.

Unfortunately, she did not share any details as to what exactly they would do for Americans. She didn't even relate to what Americans are going through.

The worst thing was that she belittled the service of local, state & national workers like Obama and Clinton and Biden by saying that ONLY McCain has really served America.

McCain's speech was miles better, and oddly enough he stated many of the same things Obama did last week.

Posted by: R3sidual | September 4, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are voting republican because of stealth candidate and his 20 years radical associations with stupid pastor wright, ayers, rezko, Kilpatrick who is going to jail soon and other anti-social elements in Chicago

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Every Republican friend I have talked to today is leaving the Party. Some will vote for Obama, some for Nadar, and some not at all.
lies come on . usPosted by: there is no anonymous anymore e your name dont hide.

Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

07001

That horse is out of the barn. It happily rode off into the sunset.

Do you think the DNC is stoopid?

Hillary is supporting Obama. She has asked her supporters to support Obama, too.

Do you really think it will help the country to split Democrats?

Or are you a TROLL?

Every Republican friend I have talked to today is leaving the Party. Some will vote for Obama, some for Nadar, and some not at all.

But they were very clear. THEY ARE NOT VOTING MCCAIN/PALIN.

They are disgusted by the hateful speeches they heard last night and confused by Joe Lieberman's presence.

Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 4, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Psssst. OBAMA think tank: Make a lot of news this weekend, K?

Do your jobs.

Fight for our votes, please.

How about a rally in Illinois of all the people you have helped over the years? They can begin a march to DC to let the country know you will help voters like you have helped them.

Heck, I'll help finance the march!

Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 4, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

............DISMISS THIS.............

For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08....

SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED

( Lafayette Hill , Pennsylvania – 09/04/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire,
the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging
Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United
States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama WERE SERVED today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents
pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.

The DNC was
served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The
U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of
the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.

Posted by: 07001 | September 4, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama promises to give tax breaks. This is a Joke.
How will he pay for this? The US citizens will pay.
How many US citizens you know are making $250k per year?
Do the math Obama promises to make new jobs but he will let none US citizens take our jobs at home.
I don’t know why so many people can say the things they do. I feel a lot of none US citizens are bashing McCain/Palin . It don’t matter what they say, they can’t vote.
Anyone that tells you McCain don’t owe him anything because he was not following orders is Not a US citizen. McCain is a true American. Can you say that about yourself?

Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

7:28...really, because he's on there tonight. Why is McSame so afraid to be on Larry King...because that evil witch Campbell Brown made his imbecile spokesperson Tucker Brown look a moron the other day?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

John McCain, "The Maverick" is a freak, of epic proportions.
He is a very, old angry man who is using Palin
ANY MAN WHO CALLS HIS WIFE A C**T IN PUBLIC, IN FRONT OF A REPORTER, IS A MISOGYNIST.
JOHN 'KEATING 5" MCCAIN HATES WOMEN, but then, it seems, most GOP'ers are repressed sexually.
NO WOMAN IN HER RIGHT MIND SHOULD EVER VOTE FOR THIS MISOGYNIST, CAUSE NO DECENT MAN, EVER, EVER CALLS A WOMAN A C**T, EVER!

Posted by: Andrea D | September 4, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

JESUS WAS A RELIGIOUS LEADER NOT A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.

Posted by: THIS IS GOD. MCCAIN/PALIN '08 | September 4, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Baracks real father is alive ,and lives in san francisco.

Posted by: Calvin | September 4, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

From FactCheck.org

Finally, Huckabee told conventioneers and TV viewers that Palin got more votes when she ran for mayor of Wasilla than Biden did running for president. Not even close. The tally: Biden, 79,754, despite withdrawing from the race after the Iowa caucuses. Palin, 909 in her 1999 race, 651 in 1996.

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From FactCheck.org

Finally, Huckabee told conventioneers and TV viewers that Palin got more votes when she ran for mayor of Wasilla than Biden did running for president. Not even close. The tally: Biden, 79,754, despite withdrawing from the race after the Iowa caucuses. Palin, 909 in her 1999 race, 651 in 1996.

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Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 4, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

WHEN ARE THOSE NAKED PICTURES OF PALIN GOING TO START COMING OUT? OH YEAH, YOU KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE. CHRISTIAN GIRLS ARE NASTY GIRLS......LOOK AT BRISTOL.


HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

Posted by: ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW | September 4, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.

PONTIUS PILOT WAS A GOVERNOR.

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: GOD IS VOTING FOR OBAMA | September 4, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to get a hold of Levi. I'd do him so hard. I wonder how long before that 18yr old hottie starts cheating on his 17 year old pregnant girlfriend?

Call me Levi!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: VERY NASTY GIRL | September 4, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Alissa (and fake JakeD):

What, exactly, do you claim that Palin is lying about?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama has Plenty Of Ammo to attack Her with. I am sure Obama will be cranking out the ads soon enough. Then Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com They have alot of info/ammo that will probably be used against Palin.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Bryanc===some big differences between this gal and Hillary. Hillary had an extensive education and was informed about the world outside of her little hamlet. Hillary was smart. Hillary had class.This gal is in quarantine and won't even be talking to the press at least for the forseeable future.I wonder why that is?I would say that being a former newscaster she can read a teleprompter, but otherwise she doesn't know squat.Maybe she could enlighten us with her negotiations with Putin.

Posted by: major teddy | September 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

It's a JOKE! that's what these people have turned our nation into a JOKE!
What complete and utter ignorance. It's no wonder Hitler and the Nazi's were able to accomplish what they did look at how those ideals have manifest themselves here. Look at this group of Americans that are so completely befuddled by truth. Look at this group of Americans that can not discern reason from pageant rhetoric. Look at this portion of America that is so self serving, so selfish, so indignant towards everything and everyone. Look at this portion of America that refuses the reality of what has been done to this nation that thinks the Constitution of the United States is a JOKE! They will spend the next four years blaming the liberals and Obama for the destruction they have wrought, telling everyone "I told you so" and get away with it. The Fourth Riech is alive and well in the United States and we have only to watch the RNC to witness it.

Posted by: Average joe | September 4, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand why Obama is afraid of Foxnews? How is he going to protect us from fundamental islamic terrorists if he is scared of a mear news channel?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't owe John McCain anything for his being in prison for 5 years in Hanoi. He did not follow orders. He was a hardheaded knowitall who would not listen to classroom instructors or flight instructors or superiors in his flying techniques. He was told to get out of that area, and he wouldn't listen. Loss of aircraft, 5 years as a P.O.W. There are thousands more like him who were taken prisoner.Should they all be president just because of that? I think not. So if all of them are not presidential material because of that , I would say neither is John McCain. He come from a hard-drinking that believed in two things: drinking and war. I guess if you stay drunk enough war isn't so bad. I don't think we need a president who wants a perpetual war.

Posted by: MAJOR TEDDY | September 4, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Alissa - You do better than $250K a year? Are you looking for a open-minded companion that likes the outdoors and is looking for a meaningful friendship?

Just kidding. My wife and kids probably would not approve. :-)

Seriously, thanks for the very thoughtful post. If we can focus on the issues, the cream will rise to the top. However, in the days of a 24 hours news cycle, where reporters have to "invent" stories to fill the embarrassing gaps in news, it is difficult - if not impossible - to focus on the issues.

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I have decided to vote for Obama/Biden.

I have never voted for a Democrat in my life. I am 50 years old. I'm one of the 5% that will see a tax increase under Obama. I'm white and a female. In short, I should be voting for McCain/Palin according to some people.

But I'm not. I was fortunate enough to make good decisions and live in a time where I could be successful. I want nothing less for my children as young adults.

I believe the Republican Party is off track. I do not believe Sarah Palin is qualified nor do I believe she is truthful.

I hope you will get out and vote. You deserve an environment where you can be successful in the future. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Alissa | September 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Honestly people please use some of the common sense and reasoning, that God gave us. Most people keeps sayin obama doesnt have experience, he doesnt have a record he voted present most of the time.He's not a leader for change.well if you think about it how much change have we had from mcain whose been in the senate for 25+ yrs. we hear more about his pow experience than his record or his actuall knowledge of the economy, healthcare. ect. Obama has been in the senate for two years and decided that he could make more change being president than a senator. His record would probaly be longer and he would have less present if most of those bills past was helping america and making a change, hell if i was a senator and i didnt agree with certain bills i would vote present to so my name wouldnt be linked with it. but things like this cant happen beacuse america cant think for themselves anymore.

Posted by: lokki | September 4, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"Palin for Wasilla High Student Council President" - nice post.

I think you nailed it. Did you ever see the movie "Election"? Reese Witherspoon plays this high strung Little Miss Overachiever that absolutely expects to be the high school council president... Years later, she ends up being successful in politics...

Go figure..

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

it's not racism to vote for some because of their race; it's racism to NOT vote for someone because of their race. Likewise,
it's not sexism to vote for someone because she is a woman, but it IS sexism to refuse to vote for that woman because of her gender. I wish people would get this distinction and stop crying race/sexISM where
none exists.

Posted by: discrimlawyer | September 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

As someone wrote below, ALL OF YOU should visit www.factcheck.org. This site reviews comments made by BOTH CANDIDATES and their organizations, and then does something simply amazing... they give you the FACTS. Of course, these are in very short supply these days.

Also, I would imagine that 99.9% of the people contributing to this string are not the ultra-wealthy that Bush gave big tax breaks to - the same people that McCain says he will continue to help in the future. If you want to know who is pouring money into these campaigns, visit www.whitehouseforsale.com. All you need to do is follow the big money to see who large corporations want in office. Check out the candidates and see who has more "lobbyist bundlers". These bundlers are lobbyist registered to petition the federal government to pass laws that are advantageous to their clients, which are little businesses like VISA, CITIGROUP, AT&T and UBS. As of today, McCain has 76 of these types pf bundlers, while Obama has 15.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. TURN OFF BIG BROTHER AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT DOWNLOADING THE LATEST RINGTONE. If large corporations are throwing money at a candidate, don't you think they will expect something in return? And if favoritism is given to large corporations, don't you understand that it will be at the expense of the common person.

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The GOP seems immature for a candidate with so much experience. All I've heard from speakers the last few nights, Palin included, is mocking and tearing down the other party, much different from the previous week. It's fine to point out differences but what's with the personal attacks? Rudy was the worst. McCain seems like a decent man but I don't think he party is helping him... and Palin isn't either with her immature mocking. Isn't she 44? Don't most adults grow out of mocking by the time they graduate high school?

Posted by: Palin for Wasilla High Student Council President | September 4, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

what's up with the little one and the glob of spit to spit shine the baby's hair? LMAO....I fell out the chair cracking up on that one...that's taking right out of the white trash playbook....them crackers are funny....


You ridicule the young girl taking care of her baby brother? Irrespective of your pary inclination this is really a low rent comment to be making. You are a sad insensitive, dare I say man?

Posted by: A Democrat fro Obama | September 4, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

That's right! Dismiss that $ho! Her divisive rhetoric was insignificant and didn't hold any weight. Every news organization today has challenged each of her talking points and have provided the American people with the truth outlining her lies. McGrump/Pallin trailer are more of the same! We don't want them! They are insignificant!! Them crackers are cracking me up

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I love that Obama! What's their agenda? What's their plan? They have had every loosing primary candidate on for the past three nights along with this c$nt from Alaska and not one of them arseholes offered the American people any solutions! All they did was talk b.s. they seem extremely angry and nasty...very divisive and controlling and the women seem like stepford wives. lol....they stood up when the men gave them the cue, move to the front of the building when giving the cue, laughed when giving the cue, boy that was mind boggling! But not one time, did anyone of them address the economic and health care problems that we are faced with today. They couldn't never repair our poor image around the world!! Shame on them, poor b$stards last night, shame of them! ROFLMAO!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

No one underestimates the intensity of response that a fundamentalist candidate will enjoy from the Amish farmers who gave Bush II Ohio. The question is whether the 10's of millions of bystanders who never bother to vote, will try to take back the Constitution, or if they are too bitter to even think there is a chance. 40% of the registered voters, did not vote in 2004.
10's of millions of others did not bother to even register.
Only 15% of the REGISTERED under 26 population voted in the Texas primary and the primary there was open for weeks, with polling places all over town in barber shops and supermarkets.
If the bystanders could stay sober for one day, maybe we could elect someone sane and transcend the name calling and labels.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The responsibility she had in Wasilla was akin to being a county commissioner where I live and the job of being governor of Alaska is less demanding than being a state senator her. There are sheriffs in Michigan that have more business to tend to than she did. This is a joke. She is a loudmouthed idiot.

Posted by: THIS JUST IN | September 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

BZ: You accuse Obama of being Muslim, and you also accuse him of associating with Rev. Wright, a Christian. So is he Muslim or Christian? Or is he only Christian when it happens to hurt his political reputation... not likely.

Posted by: cramerg2000 | September 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The article in the Enquirer is called "Slammin Pallin" Literally! What a nasty freak...and she is suppose to be a mother....Maury Poverich had better DNA test all of them little critters....what's up with the little one and the glob of spit to spit shine the baby's hair? LMAO....I fell out the chair cracking up on that one...that's taking right out of the white trash playbook....them crackers are funny....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Finally, a chance to see the Demo's shake in pure fear. Just when they thought Hillary and O' had thrown all the big punches, The republican party rises up and knocks them back down again..lol. Sarah Palin has all the characteristics Hillary wish she had. You lefty's better get ready..the fight is on...and the time is now

Posted by: BryanC | September 4, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama, aka, BO is the most inexperienced and liberal nominee to ever run for President...I'll take Palin a tough Alaskan Governor who has taken on the political establishment in the largest state in the union - and WON - over the BO tax and spend Demos any day of the week.

Posted by: ltk01@yahoo.com | September 4, 2008 6:21 PM

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Ugh... LTK... the last balanced budget was when there was a Democrat in office. Thought you might like to know... Oh, yeah... Alaska is BIG as in SIZE, but it is 48th out of 50 states, just a tab more populous than North Dakota and Vermont.

Try to keep up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The election wil be decided by college students and young adults up to 26. They usually dont even register and the ones that do, dont bother to vote. If they stay home, BUSH III, with no contracteptives, no abortion, 100's of new federal judges who adhere to right wing agendas. The end of the Constitution.
No habeas corpus. Torture of suspects.
Its not about Mrs Palin and her secessionist husband.
Its about us, and the civil rights we grew up expecting. They are gone now, just check it out. Wiretaps now do not require any reason at all. Suspects can be tortured. This is worse that in Nazi Germany. They went through protocol.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.veeppeek.com The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"BZ", okay, so you got to whine. I should not have called you a "dork". So in response to my retraction, why don't you address the question at hand... Shrub has lined the pockets of the ultra-rich at the expense of you and I. I can cite the numerous teims Shrub and the republican congress picked our pockets and gave it to the rich - sort of like Robin Hood in Reverse. If McCain follows Shrub's lead, what is in it for the common man?

Don't you think the CEOs from Fortune 500 companies making an average of 400 times that of their average employee is enough? McCain promises to make the 2001 tax cuts permanent and Obama promises to give tax breaks to everyone that makes less than $250K per year. Where exactly do you fall -above or below $250K/year?

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Barack Hussein Obama, aka, BO is the most inexperienced and liberal nominee to ever run for President...I'll take Palin a tough Alaskan Governor who has taken on the political establishment in the largest state in the union - and WON - over the BO tax and spend Demos any day of the week.

Posted by: ltk01@yahoo.com | September 4, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Until the lefties here stop underestimating this VP with stupid, sexist, non Preogressive quotes like this:

"Sarah Palin is a trick a** ho when she talks all I can think about is a trailer park...."


"I don't want to compete with emerging global superpowers with a retarded inbred hick family at the helm."

You will help lose this election. By lowering expectations with all this noise, non-sense and lies which were heaped on her by the Progresives in this country, you allowed her to hit the homerun she did last night...you also generated a huge amount of buzz resulting in the same viewership that Obama recieved on less stations and she blew away Biden...who came across as a stooge...and had 12m less viewers

Its no wonder today you see Biden lowering expectations of HIS performance for the their debate...if she holds her own, there goes the reason Obama chose him...his experience...that will disappear..

As for Obama, can someone who supports him please give an accounting of his actual governmental, legislative record as opposed to a list of his undergraduate and graduate school experience...everybody who has gone to graduate school has a resumes like Obama's and they don't use them as areason to run for president..

I will help you with the source...go to his website and follow it to the real governemental websites that list his bills...I have seen them and there are only 2 of consequence(one has not made it to Congress yet)..the other his ethics reform which he is taking credit for he is actually listed nowhere on the bill...

There are 2 Senators in this election who have experience...McCain and Biden...only one canididate has executive experience...Palin...for those that think her experience doesn't mean anything..think about this:

The last Senator elected Pres was JFK since then it has almost been entirely governors....just think why? Because governors are like presidents of a state...minimizing this experience is silly..Clinton was the governor of Arkansas..some consider this state backwater too...

Palin did what she had to do last night...now the game is on for both teams...McCain will do what Obama did...he let his VP and others attack the Repubs then he came in with a fairly soft touch and laid out his general vision...he will still have to explain how he will create 5 million jobs in the alterntive enegery sector or provide health care if your work doesn't(what business will provide health care if the government will pick up the tab), or how he will decrease taxes on 90% of the population and still pay for all his programs since 80% population already doesn't pay taxes...that means the idea that by taxing someone less so they can spend in the economy and stimulate it is strange since that person already doesn't pay taxes so they are spedning what they are spending...

Again think about what he is offering and consider how it will get done...McCain needs to provide his own details...because at the endof the day its Obama versus McCain


Posted by: Blissfully Ignorant | September 4, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"BZ", okay, so you got to whine. I should not have called you a "dork". So in response to my retraction, why don't you address the question at hand... Shrub has lined the pockets of the ultra-rich at the expense of you and I. I can cite the numerous teims Shrub and the republican congress picked our pockets and gave it to the rich - sort of like Robin Hood in Reverse. If McCain follows Shrub's lead, what is in it for the common man?

Don't you think the CEOs from Fortune 500 companies making an average of 400 times that of their average employee is enough? McCain promises to make the 2001 tax cuts permanent and Obama promises to give tax breaks to everyone that makes less than $250K per year. Where exactly do you fall - above or below $250K/year?


Posted by: JKT | September 4, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Thank you all for your participation in this forum.

Happy day to you all.

May we be blessed with actual discourse one of these days.
I doubt they will let Palin be interviewed. I heard that the GOP plans to put her back in Alaska until the VP debate. She has to study up her one liners and memorize her canned responses, regardless of the questions.
I am amazed to see so many posters who notice that McCain/Palin candidacy fails to address the actual needs of the people.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

speaking of Obama and Palin., Has anyone else seen the new political cartoon at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Thats really funny.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I heard McCSame craps in his pants anytime he sees a vietnamese hero????

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

voting for McFakeHero is like all of us staying home and not vote ... Default Bush!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

alix- hasn't bush already destroyed it?

Posted by: chicagoan | September 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Until the lefties here stop underestimating this VP with stupid, sexist, non Preogressive quotes like this:

"Sarah Palin is a trick a** ho when she talks all I can think about is a trailer park...."


"I don't want to compete with emerging global superpowers with a retarded inbred hick family at the helm."

You will help lose this election. By lowering expectations with all this noise, non-sense and lies which were heaped on her by the Progresives in this country, you allowed her to hit the homerun she did last night...you also generated a huge amount of buzz resulting in the same viewership that Obama recieved on less stations and she blew away Biden...who came across as a stooge...and had 12m less viewers

Its no wonder today you see Biden lowering expectations of HIS performance for the their debate...if she holds her own, there goes the reason Obama chose him...his experience...that will disappear..

As for Obama, can someone who supports him please give an accounting of his actual governmental, legislative record as opposed to a list of his undergraduate and graduate school experience...everybody who has gone to graduate school has a resumes like Obama's and they don't use them as areason to run for president..

I will help you with the source...go to his website and follow it to the real governemental websites that list his bills...I have seen them and there are only 2 of consequence(one has not made it to Congress yet)..the other his ethics reform which he is taking credit for he is actually listed nowhere on the bill...

There are 2 Senators in this election who have experience...McCain and Biden...only one canididate has executive experience...Palin...for those that think her experience doesn't mean anything..think about this:

The last Senator elected Pres was JFK since then it has almost been entirely governors....just think why? Because governors are like presidents of a state...minimizing this experience is silly..Clinton was the governor of Arkansas..some consider this state backwater too...

Palin did what she had to do last night...now the game is on for both teams...McCain will do what Obama did...he let his VP and others attack the Repubs then he came in with a fairly soft touch and laid out his general vision...he will still have to explain how he will create 5 million jobs in the alterntive enegery sector or provide health care if your work doesn't(what business will provide health care if the government will pick up the tab), or how he will decrease taxes on 90% of the population and still pay for all his programs since 80% population already doesn't pay taxes...that means the idea that by taxing someone less so they can spend in the economy and stimulate it is strange since that person already doesn't pay taxes so they are spedning what they are spending...

Again think about what he is offering and consider how it will get done...McCain needs to provide his own details...Because these are the two people running for President..not Palin and Obama...Obama will be Pres from day one not if someone dies or gets killed etc...so please compare him to McCain...


Posted by: blissfully ignorant | September 4, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama said, "And so the question is, what's their agenda? What's their plan?"

This is but a low class way of condescending. Many "agendas" and "plans" were mentioned for the economy, dependency and security – Palin stated it.

Why does Obama minimize when he can present his contrasting vision for America. This is a perfect opportunity for him to step up and tells us what he will do instead of playing this immature game of politics. How hard is it to say "this is what my opponent says he will do, this is what I will do" I so tire of hearing "everyone is an empty suit but me" rhetoric.

Posted by: Jack | September 4, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Typical libs, all you did with my post is call me names. The fact is this: if the liberal media spent half as much time asking Obama questions about Rezko, Ayers, Wright, as they did worrying about Bristol Palin, YOU would actually know something about your candidate.

And YES, he is a muslim, he lived in Jakarta, and prayed according to the Muslim prayer calendar and even recited a verse of the Koran for an interview done by a reporter from the Chicago Trib.

But, oh wait, YOU don't want to talk about facts, they just get in the way of your tingling legs. Hypocrits, all of you.

Posted by: BZ | September 4, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Typical libs, all you did with my post is call me names. The fact is this: if the liberal media spent half as much time asking Obama questions about Rezko, Ayers, Wright, as they did worrying about Bristol Palin, YOU would actually know something about your candidate.

And YES, he is a muslim, he lived in Jakarta, and prayed according to the Muslim prayer calendar and even recited a verse of the Koran for an interview done by a reporter from the Chicago Trib.

But, oh wait, YOU don't want to talk about facts, they just get in the way of your tingling legs. Hypocrits, all of you.

Posted by: BZ | September 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The dumbed-down American citizenry who vote for Obama will definitely get the government they deserve but they won’t know it until this snake oil salesman in an empty suit has destroyed this beautiful country. By then it will be too late. My 66-year, very interesting life is closer to the end than the beginning for which I am very thankful because the future will be ugly. The very young people are the ones who will suffer. I’m hoping for the best although I know it will play out the way it’s supposed to.

Posted by: alix in New York | September 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

LOL, speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious. Its like a Jib Jab almost

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I heard McCSame craps in his pants anytime he sees a vietnamese????

Posted by: Paul Gascoigne | September 4, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Linda and others,

I think you have forgotten that it was McCain who did not know how many apartments and houses he owns straight away not Obama. According to him Iraq and Afghanistan are neighboring countries. I know this last one does not matter much for those who would attack the country (Iran) in the middle anyway. This only shows how ignorant he really is, and how much real foreign-affairs experience he really has.

Posted by: papszi | September 4, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I know most of you SHEEPLE don't do your own critical thinking. You take the talk of these candidates records as gossip. Leary of going out and unearthing the facts. You rather gobble up what your respective parties are dishing out as if they were reading from the scripture.

But it is your GOD GIVING RIGHT to use your GOD GIVEN ABILITY to think for yourselves and ask the right questions.

Don't let the political machine chew your future up and spit it out. It doesn't matter WHO you VOTE for. Just make sure that you know the unbiased - nonpartisan truth.

http://www.factcheck.org/

"Men lie, women lie, numbers don't."
-Hov

Posted by: LB | September 4, 2008 5:43 PM

"Men lie, women lie, numbers don't."?
Unless Diebold does the tabulation!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

All I could think when I was listening to Palin speak is that the USA has finally found a winner - but it's the winner of some kind of bizarre Republican Idol reality show where Karl Rove picks an unknown politician to be an instant star on the basis of the persona likely to sell to the broadest target demographic.

No matter how much the moviegoing public would like to believe that all we need is a straight-shootin' pit-bull hockey mom as President to get this ol' world straightened out, the laughter at the prospect of this vapor trail as the leader of the free world is no doubt echoing in Beijing, Moscow, Pyongyang, Teheran, and all the other places that are a little more high-risk for all of us than the Wausilla city council.

Get real, people. Palin is nothing more than the result of a political calculation that white voters will ignore the devastating impact of Bush's wars, deficits, and market deregulation and vote for more of the same, just because somebody "like us" is on the ticket while a foreign guy from the big city (oh, did I mention he's black and he's some kind of Muslim?) is on the other ticket. Are we really that stupid?

As someone once said about Glenn Beck, I listen so I know what the people who aren't thinking, are thinking. As I listen to Palin I plan to keep that thought in mind.

Posted by: NJbil | September 4, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Biden is from a small tiny state Delaware home of the credit card companies that he helped author bankruptcy reform against its card holders.

Posted by: Abel | September 4, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse


Are they not funny, the hypocrites that is? Every 4 years, media outlets on BOTH sides do whatever they can to uncover skeletons, twist facts and out right make crap up. There is a lot of this hypocritical attacking going on this year. Both primary candidates have flip-flopped, both sides have discriminated and normal people are confused - normal people as in, the average American who really doesn't care about politicians. Independent "thinkers" who realized long ago that politics is a dirty business. But we do care about our country and we care about the foundation which this country was born on. These politicians are who move this country forward. Their ideas, their policies, their intelligence and their persona will lead us into the future. What we do today, we will have to face tomorrow. Remember that.

Now, considering everything I've researched about both candidates. One offers us a lot of the same leadership, direction and policies, we have endured the passed 8 years; the other promises change. John McCain hasn't impressed me at all. Barak Obama has impressed me a little. McCain lacks charisma, Obama doesn't. We know little about Obama, he's not your "normal" American, raised in a "normal" American family. But I ask you, what is normal? Normal changes like the seasons, normal is a plain and very lame word. Nobody lived a normal life relative to the next person. If a "normal" life is the life of a politicians's - I sure in the hell didn't live a normal life. In fact, only a very small percentage of Americans did. I think the USA needs change, dramatic change.

Is change scary? Of course it is! But every day, a "normal" life is changed. Hell, life is just random events, it's like the lottery. A gamble. But sometimes, those events lead up to something great. Hope. Hope is strange, it's like a spiritual feeling that every human being feels, regardless of faith and belief. I'm here to tell you that if you've been one of us "normal" Americans, who have been hoping and praying for a better tomorrow - a better America. That hope is answered in the form of a not so "normal" American. Barak Obama. We Americans need to look passed the political spectrum, we need to look passed our prejudices; we need to look at our country as a whole. Do you believe the future of America is better than what today brought you?

Posted by: Jack B | September 4, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Watching Sarah Pallin and the redneck clan last night was like watching Jerry Springer...I can't wait to see what they give us tonight...maybe they'll have Maury Poverich (sp?) giving DNA samples to find out it Levi is Bristol's baby father!!! Boy, the Obama campaign couldn't ask for a better hand if they were playing spades! ROFLMAO!!!

Posted by: lucy | September 4, 2008 5:42 PM

Are'nt we all rednecks? how else can you explain how we got ourselves into this craphole we are in now after Billy Boy Clinton Balanced the budget eight years ago?

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

My last comment was "held by the blog owner". Censorship lives.

Posted by: Say NO to McPalin | September 4, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I know most of you SHEEPLE don't do your own critical thinking. You take the talk of these candidates records as gossip. Leary of going out and unearthing the facts. You rather gobble up what your respective parties are dishing out as if they were reading from the scripture.

But it is your GOD GIVING RIGHT to use your GOD GIVEN ABILITY to think for yourselves and ask the right questions.

Don't let the political machine chew your future up and spit it out. It doesn't matter WHO you VOTE for. Just make sure that you know the unbiased - nonpartisan truth.

http://www.factcheck.org/

"Men lie, women lie, numbers don't."
-Hov

Posted by: LB | September 4, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Watching Sarah Pallin and the redneck clan last night was like watching Jerry Springer...I can't wait to see what they give us tonight...maybe they'll have Maury Poverich (sp?) giving DNA samples to find out it Levi is Bristol's baby father!!! Boy, the Obama campaign couldn't ask for a better hand if they were playing spades! ROFLMAO!!!

Posted by: lucy | September 4, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree if obama was white he would be out of the picture..even though Hillary would of been better shes still out because obama has no faith in a white women to run by his side so he picked out a old puppet..McCain n Palin are leadership and change..not HOPE..who needs hope maybe my kid during xmas time for a extra gift he really doesnt need...

Posted by: madmanx1 | September 4, 2008 5:30 PM

I thought Obama is half white?

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Biden and Palin both play the attack role. But Biden's attacks are specific on policy. You can agree/disagree point-by-point whether McCain's policies are just like Bush. Palin used her biography to defend herself but then said nothing, except mock Obama using labels. Obama made 29 policy proposals in a 43 minute speech last week. (For anyone with time to listen/read, these are the same policies he has talked about with major newspaper editorial boards for the last 18 months.

Agree with Obama or NOT, it is FALSE to say he lacks foreign-policy experience
* 1984 BA in Poly Science, Intl Affairs; Thesis: Soviet Disarmement
* US Senate 2004 to Present
> Member of Foreign Relations committee
* Bills/Ammendments passed/introduced
> S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 Accountability in military and security contracting
> S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 Require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan
> S.J.RES.23: A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran...
> S. 2330: Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act (1 Cosponsor)
- Consistent Opposition
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpKmQCCwB8&feature=related
- 2007 Obama says “Musharraf cannot openly give permission for internal strikes” so we should strike without permission
> http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3458915
> Jan. 08: CIA aircraft fired on several buildings in Pakistan killing a senior al-Qaida commander - without seeking approval from the Pakistani government
> May 15th, on Nova-M radio, Robert Wexler (D-FL) confirms that generals took Obama's advice

Posted by: Young Atheart | September 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Biden and Obama represent more than 24 million people between them in their 2 states.

As senators that just vote on bills or vote present without taking a stand. How many bills has Obama authored with the senate taking a vote - 0

Palin represents 600,000 as a governor making real decisions with 80% popular support from Alaska Democrats and Republicans.

Posted by: T Smith | September 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Senator JFK was groomed to be president. His father was an Ambassador and a big time banker that knew national economics, the Kennedys always talked politics at the dinner table. Kennedy was also a military leader on a P.T. boat who was a hero.

Regan and JFK had experience, unlike Obama

Posted by: abel | September 4, 2008 5:33 PM


So I guess Bin Laden has the experience to lead us then?

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

This woman even insulted my pit bull, and that I cannot abide...lol!

Lipstick on a pig would have been the correct analogy.

Suck it up, republicans, your party perfected the character attack. Why won't the repubs let this woman be interviewed?

She played well to her base, but in the reality-based community, she is already dead in the water. McCain committed political suicide with this one. Sorry sad shame.

Posted by: Just say no to sarracuda | September 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Have you noticed....one of the stark differences about Repukican and Demmys is that the Repukes don't seem to have much of a sense of humor.

Sure they have national pride (so do the Chinese and the Ruskies)...they get teared up over little puppy dogs (so do 14 year old girls)...they place their hands over thier hearts during the pledge (I remember doing that as a very small child in elementary school).

But they don't seem to make many jokes unless they are mean spirited, racist or creepy in nature.

They do know how to load a gun and shoot their friends in the face and neck.

But not big on a sense of humor. Have you ever seen Bush or Cheney make a joke...it feels kinda sick and icky.

Oh, well. Just food for thought

Posted by: John Shermer | September 4, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama has Plenty Of Ammo to attack Her with. I am sure Obama will be cranking out the ads soon enough. Then Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com They have alot of info/ammo that will probably be used against Palin.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: LiesLiesMoreLies | September 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not experienced enough to be President.

Regan was a long time governor of California.

Senator JFK was groomed to be president. His father was an Ambassador and a big time banker that knew national economics, the Kennedys always talked politics at the dinner table. Kennedy was also a military leader on a P.T. boat who was a hero.

Regan and JFK had experience, unlike Obama

Posted by: abel | September 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

It's ironic to me, the criticism regarding Obama as lacking substance, as the majority of these posts contain unverified crap, a series of regurgitated "facts" and partisan-driven information. It seems to me that a majority of these posts lack substance as well, whereas criticism is based more on the party than the candidate, attacking surface issues of minimal importance, rather than political stances and voting records. I think information about both candidates are gathered best individually, and not based on party support. That said, this is a very promising election for numerous reasons, and I think voters are more educated about their candidates than ever before.

Posted by: Andy H | September 4, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree if obama was white he would be out of the picture..even though Hillary would of been better shes still out because obama has no faith in a white women to run by his side so he picked out a old puppet..McCain n Palin are leadership and change..not HOPE..who needs hope maybe my kid during xmas time for a extra gift he really doesnt need...

Posted by: madmanx1 | September 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

yeah....i'm with them. If Jesus returns all bets are off. I'll vote for him in a heartbeat.

But other than Jesus I'm voting Democrat.

Posted by: john shermer | September 4, 2008 5:28 PM

A resounding Amen to that, Now that's the guy that has the experience needed to lead this world in the right direction!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

JT JT JT JT

Thank you for the post!

Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I was a slightly bitter Hillary supporter and this week watching the RNC has "healed me" completely.
Being who would benefit from Republican tax cuts personally, I was waiting to see what they would say about healthcare and the economy. "Nada", as Guiliani would say.
They just want to terrify us into voting for the "terrorism" folks.
Democrats stand for prosperity for many, not few.
What hypocrisy to make that teen pregnancy look so glamorous and pretty and shush up everyone who has a question about that. So indignant. And they accuse Democrats of being indignant and politically correct.
Sarah Palin is the "hot chick" those buttons said she is and a great choice for a convention speaker, but I don't want someone we met last week being Vice President.
Biden and Obama represent more than 24 million people between them in their 2 states. She represents 600,000.
Obama has declined tax dollars for his camplaign and been the most successful fundraiser ever. And we met him at the last convention, not this one.
He can do it!

Posted by: Doctor/Mom, NC | September 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

yeah....i'm with them. If Jesus returns all bets are off. I'll vote for him in a heartbeat.

But other than Jesus I'm voting Democrat.

Posted by: john shermer | September 4, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

poop

Posted by: john shermer | September 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

As someone wrote below, ALL OF YOU should visit www.factcheck.org. This site reviews comments made by BOTH CANDIDATES and their organizations, and then does something simply amazing... they give you the FACTS. Of course, these are in very short supply these days.

Also, I would imagine that 99.9% of the people contributing to this string are not the ultra-wealthy that Bush gave big tax breaks to - the same people that McCain says he will continue to help in the future. If you want to know who is pouring money into these campaigns, visit www.whitehouseforsale.com. All you need to do is follow the big money to see who large corporations want in office. Check out the candidates and see who has more "lobbyist bundlers". These bundlers are lobbyist registered to petition the federal government to pass laws that are advantageous to their clients, which are little businesses like VISA, CITIGROUP, AT&T and UBS. As of today, McCain has 76 of these types pf bundlers, while Obama has 15.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. TURN OFF BIG BROTHER AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT DOWNLOADING THE LATEST RINGTONE. If large corporations are throwing money at a candidate, don't you think they will expect something in return? And if favoritism is given to large corporations, don't you understand that it will be at the expense of the common person.

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM

You are very right, that's hy I am not going to vote for anybody until Jesus returns!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM

Mick, you have to go with the name that's below, not the name that's above :)

-- My Bad (this is actually John McCain, I am still trying to get a grip on this internet thing Al Gore created)!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Elections tend to get the dedicated members of each party's blood boiling. Lies are told, tricks are played, threats are made, and still those minds are made up on who they plan to vote for. I've personally sat down in the audience of each candidate and have heard their ideas word for word and I've gone home and listened as the MEDIA chopped those words up to feed the American people the portion they want you to have. Why is it that we as American's are unable to choose a party based on our own understanding of what that party stands for, instead of chosing them because our parents followed them. Do you know why you are a Republican? Do you know why you are a Democrat? How did I choose the candidate I will vote for this year? I have lived the past 8 years under an administration which has lead this country we are all so proud of down a road of disgrace, where an American can't find a job in his own neighborhood, where neighborhoods are actually non-existing with the housing market in a crisis, where other countries sit back smoking on a Cuban Cigar laughing because they just had a conversation with a Incompetant American President who probably asked that they raise the price of oil, and we're fighting in a country where our young boys and women are dying and noone has ever explained why we are even there. Some of us argue that we can't leave defeated, but I ask why did we go? Some say victory is within reach and the plan is working, but I say Why did we go? Some with say that our soldiers will have died in vain, and I'll say WHY DID WE GO?
People I've thought about the issues and I've ignored the name calling, I've overlooked a person's age and color, I'm proud that a female has reached the level of a Hillary Clinton, and a Sarah Palin, and thank God for blessing America with a Barack Obama. What future will our kids face if China gets fed up and demands their money long after Bush has left office? After listening to McCain speak during one of his town hall meetings I'd venture to say that our military will be depleted and if any country chooses to take aggression towards us they will have a cake walk across our precious country. Who will be able to defend her? Let us as a country take a breath away from Wars, and other unknown criminal acts committed against other countries and actual rebuild our standing amongst the international community.

Posted by: CDB | September 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Mick Jogger, you know that Obama and Biden also claim to talk to God, right? Well, Obama's already admitted to doing coke, so I guess you're at least half right.

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM

You are very right, that's why I am not going to vote for anybody until Jesus returns!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse


Racism -

Obama got more than 80 percent of the black vote. Why? Because he is black and they relate to him. But this is a source of racism. If Obama was white they would not have voted for him. They would voted for the more experienced Hillary, because the Clinton's always supported minorities and their cause.

The sad thing is, blacks that did vote for Hillary because of her proven record were called "Uncle Toms" by other blacks. Yet they talk about racism. wow!

Posted by: reality buff | September 4, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM

You are very right, that's hy I am not going to vote for anybody until Jesus returns!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM

Mick, you have to go with the name that's below, not the name that's above :)

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

All that anyone should care about is the vision that our leaders set out to achieve. Every candidate for president has an agenda, but none that I know of has ever achieved every single thing they wanted. They have had to compromise, and depending on who controls the House and or Senate . .determines how a president must govern. When the Republicans were in control of the House and Senate, Bush was able to push through a lot of the things that he wanted. Now that the Democrats have taken over, how much has Bush accomplished? I listen to both of these men and I am trying to decide who has the best vision for the country. We can all argue about who has more experience . .or how old someone is but let us not forget . .. JFK was lacking experience and Ronald Reagen was to old. Two presidents who are revered by their party. Vote on the ISSUES!!

Posted by: flyingeagel | September 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god. So here I am, thinking that Palin wasn't aligned with a separatist group when someone posts the below! It would have been bad enough if she merely knew someone, or had come across someone in such an anti-American group! Yet to actually be MARRIED to a member! This is an outrage! An OUTRAGE!

Thank you and again, I apologize to all.
Lynette Clark, Chairman
Alaskan Independence Party
September 3, 2008

http://www.akip.org/090308.html

Keep up the smear job.>>

Posted by: Biff | September 4, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

People... forget about Palin already.
This is about Obama vs McCain.
The GOP wants to distract you from the issues. And by focusing on Palin, you're doing the GOP proud.

If the McCain Campaign thought very much of Gov Palin, Why would they be shielding her from Media questions?
Certainly, if she was so qualified, they'd let her answer questions, like every other Candidate... and Wow us with her incisive understanding of the domestic & foreign policy issues facing us.
They're hiding her. She comes out from under a rock, attacks... then goes back under the rock.

Focus on the issues, People. Stop wasting any energy on Palin.

Posted by: jon | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Last night we saw Tonya Harding with a speechwriter. Palin offered almost nothing of substance. She's positive we should be paranoid. She mocked constitutional rights. Well screw you, Nananook of the Nazis. The stuff about putting the governor's jet on E-Bay was cute but other than that she did what reactionaries always accused hippies of doing -- she tore down but she didn't build up. She did something that no hippie was ever accused of doing, she fortified the luxury bunker where the rich and powerful hide. The creepy thing is that she did it in the guise of an American every woman. She sold herself as a great administrator, even though she couldn't manage to keep a carwash open in the the muddiest state in the union. .


Goodluck Johnny McBush!...you're going to need it.

Posted by: Karla Martinson | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Mick Jogger, you know that Obama and Biden also claim to talk to God, right? Well, Obama's already admitted to doing coke, so I guess you're at least half right.

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM

You are very right, that's hy I am not going to vote for anybody until Jesus returns!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Reply to Post by John | September 4, 2008 5:07 PM

John, I couldn't agree more. Obama should stop calling McCain Bush III. Although i didn't think it would be possible, it is now obvious that McCain will be far worse than Bush II and to continue to call hom Bush III would actually be a complement

Yee Haw Pass Me a Mooose Burger

Posted by: Reply to John | September 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

wow, reading some of these helps me remember why I vote. Look if your going to vote using the bible as your voting tool, just relize your a idiot. If you want the United States to be no better then the middle east, then use religion to make your decisions.
Voting for people like S.Pallin is only "Changing" this country into a religious state. Bush has done plenty of that.
If we want to move forward, we need to focus on 3 things.

1. developing alternitive energy to create jobs, and become less dependent on imported oil

2. Getting better, and more affordable health care, so that we can keep our population from going bankrupt when they get sick. It will also save a lot of wasted government money caring for the un-insured.

3. Bring the jobs back to this country.

Posted by: The Big O | September 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the same hard edge politics the McCain had to fight against when Rove was in W. Bushes corner back in the 2000 campaign. Remember McCain Blowing up at Bush on Larry King for the Rove smear campaign to get the republican nomination - but 8 years later it's McCain employing the same ring master using the same tactics. Can't we take off our Republican/Democrats hat and be Americans and say enough with this B.S.? Please!

Posted by: starrpix | September 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Mick Jogger, you know that Obama and Biden also claim to talk to God, right? Well, Obama's already admitted to doing coke, so I guess you're at least half right.

Posted by: No Body | September 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin - WOW! GO Baby GO!

Sarah Palin opened up a six pack of Whip-A** on Barack Obama and said, "let's rumble"!

Hey Barack, is she "likeable enough"?

:-D

Posted by: randy | September 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I am an Islamist Fascist!

Posted by: Independence from media Tyrants | September 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

So anyone with executive experience is qualified for VP?

I voted for the bridge to nowhere but then I did not.

We(Alaska) got the $225 million and the bridge was not built. Now that's a win win. That qualifies for great executive experience.

Oh ya did I tell you I will fight against earmarks? But as long as big oil drills in my state that would not matter anyways.. We will squeeze them even more. My people will be happy with me cause I will bribe them even more.

Please vote for us - McPain'08

Posted by: ketchikan | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Mick, it's a good thing your mom had the insight to realize that every human soul, yes, even yours, has the right live. Bless her heart."

My mom's pro-choice, and yet i'm here... Hmmm....

You do realize that pro-choice doesn't mean that you want to abort every baby, right?

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

how can you claim to be the reform candidate party when you are the party in power? last night looked to me that between the personal attacks and invective we got an attempt to claim that they were the people who want change. Cotton Hill (R) / Peg Bundy (R) '08

Posted by: anon | September 4, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is pure class. Not only in responding to questions about Palin's daughter, but in response to her juvenile screed last night. I couldn't do it. The guy is amazing.

Posted by: Biff | September 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Whatsitmatter: Maybe if there had been help for you when you were a pregnant teen, you might have stayed in school and learned how to spell "acceptable." Also, being gay doesn't mean you can't be a parent -- in fact some of the most loving, intentional parents I know happen to be gay. And THEY are less likely to be grandparents by the time they are 30... unlike SOME people!

Whatsitmatter said:

No, we should not help pregnant teens. That would just enable them & make it even more expectable. (I had my first child at 15, I know what it's like.) Who knows, with as expectable as gays are these days, in the future, we wont even have to worry about these issues.

Posted by: Whatsitmatter | September 4, 2008 4:38 PM

Posted by: AZ Independent | September 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

As an independent voter, I feel that it is a shame that very few members of the warring parties are ever heard to utter the words: "You know, I've never thought of it that way before. You might have a point there."

Posted by: Derek Todorojo | September 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I find if funny when Obama talks about not slandering the other canditate and presenting true solutions in the party conventions. I was in Denver, listening to him, and all I heard was McCain bashing and classical democrat rhetoric. I guess Obama is really saying "do as I say, not as I do". Obama lacks insight, experience, and the ability to comprehend not only the situation, but the message which he is conveying.

Posted by: sam | September 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I love the Republicans who state that it's good to see the Left scared of Palin.

It's true, as a Democrat, I'm terrified of Palin. Terrified that the republicans will win and that woman with her complete lack of experience and intelligence will not only be in the white house, but also will have a chance of being president if McCain's Cancer gets worse.

I'm sure all of you republicans feel safe with her lack of foreign affairs experience, lack of knowledge what the Vice-president does, and her amazing Degree in Communications...

Good thing she finally got her passport Last Year...

Posted by: Cronos | September 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton is a great mom, compared to Palin!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama is so woefully inadequate for this position, it's amazing he has went as far as what he has. Zero experience with ideas that are not economically feasible. Calling his wife or Grandma for advice?
Ties w/ known terrorist and is very anti-US. Please, Obama needs to deflate his head, grow up and then decide what he want's to be and perhaps pick another country that better suits him.

Palin at least makes the ticket palatable. She is willing to take on her own party, the establishment and is a proven leader. It's too bad the GOP is selling Palin to get McCain in the Whitehouse.

Posted by: ChrisK | September 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Mick, it's a good thing your mom had the insight to realize that every human soul, yes, even yours, has the right live. Bless her heart.

Posted by: Independence from media Tyrants | September 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Tonight is the GOP convention's grand finale. At 9:30 they will have their traditional cross burning, followed by Dick Cheney singing God Bless America.

Posted by: hamishdad | September 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Clinton/Palin 2020

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, she IS serious, Senator. YOU are the problem. The United States would not survive an Obama Presidency."

HA HA HA! The United States is a mess right now, because of Bush and his failed policies. McCain wants to continue those same policies.

In short, you're and idiot sir, have a craptastic day!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Yet Obama continues to be DISINGENUOUS AND DIVISE when he compares McCain to Bush saying they voted the same 90% of the time. What does that mean anyway...Bush hasn't voted on anything in over 8 years, he's not a senator. Speeches at the Dem con seemed just as aggressive to me. You can dish it out but....

Posted by: Eric | September 4, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

What's their agenda? What's their plan?

Amazing - I am so glad Obama has clearly laid his plans out clearly for the American People to see...

What's this time to get serious - I think it is about time he was serious and gave the American people a bit of substance on which to justify his potential election to govern a world superpower...

Raising taxes won't keep jobs inside the US and a softly softly approach to world politics is just what the rest of the world wants, not what America needs.

C'mon people climb down off the pedestals and see past the rhetoric. It'd be like sending a lamb to the slaughter having Obama take over the USA in this current political climate.

Posted by: Get Serious | September 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I realize i am sick and need help but one day i will become a normal person.please for give my mother for having me.i am an abortion far left.may God have mercy

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

what an idiot Obama is. He complains about the attacks on him when he keeps calling McCain "Bush III." McCain is not Bush and he won't be another Bush term. But that is the ENTIRE plan Obama seems to have for HIS campaign. Stop criticizing the others, BO, and get specific with your "plans" that have changed several times already. Lofty idea with no substance are castles in air or cotton candy - sweet with no value and no lasting power. How Obama can criticize the criticizing while criticizing is... well, it is politics as usual by an inexperienced person who can't even cast a yes or no vote.

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

BZ

shut your racist mouth. I'm very tired of stupid americans like yourself. You probably didn't get out of high school did you? You perfectly sum up how fear-based and stupid much of america has become.

mccain/palin? are you serious. Did you know that historically 1 out of 5 US Presidents have died in office. True.

Are you seriously considering handing the reins of this country over to 'old man river' who could croak any day now or to 'small town gal'? Spunky though she is can you really see her sitting across from Putin or whoever that clown is in North Korea.

20 months ago she was the mayor of a town of 6700. She doesn't know anything about foreign policy. She doesn't know how Washington works. She's been banging her husbands business partner for 2 years. The Repukicans will go down in flames and Bush will be seen as the worst president in the history of the US.

Do you know what our national debt looks like compared to what it has been historically?

It's a lie that Dems spend more that Repubs.

Take a look if you dare...it tells a grim tale.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/budget_deficit_chart.gif

Posted by: John Shermer | September 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Most recently I have pulled the entire record regarding the Alaskan Independence Partys' 1994 Convention file. I went through all the video, audio and paper records for that function. Something I should have done earlier before making the statement that Governor Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. For that I humbly apologize to Governor Palin, and, to both national and local press, and media.

I, foolishly, repeated and accepted as fact what an officer of this membership shared with myself, and husband Dexter Clark, over a year ago. My statement was incorrect regarding the Governor's membership. What was correct was that Todd Palin was a member, that Sarah as a candidate for Governor appeared at the AIP Convention in 2006, and sent a welcoming DVD to the membership at the 2008 AIP statewide convention. Those truths do not take away my fault in mis-speaking regarding her membership. For that I do take full responsibility. I hold Governor Palin in high regard, I believe she is far and away the best individual Alaska could have as Governor, and as a woman, mother and wife is one of the best examples walking!

Thank you and again, I apologize to all.
Lynette Clark, Chairman
Alaskan Independence Party
September 3, 2008

http://www.akip.org/090308.html

Keep up the smear job.

Posted by: anon | September 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama - reality that liberals ignore

Obama does not have the experience and record of decision making to become president on day one. That is why he picked experienced insider Joe Biden.

Obama has voted “present” no position 100 times as senator on democratic bills in the senate. real leaders take a stand "yes or no"

Obama skipped three meetings held by the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee (with NATO oversight) on Afghanistan. His own committee deals with our Atlantic allies, and he admitted he was too busy running for President to hold a meeting. That is the sum of his foreign experience, and he is the top of the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: Bill | September 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

It could be an argueable point to discuss Palin's level of experience and if she is ready to be President. But anyone who claims Palin is not qualified, and apply that same standard to Obama, can't seriously, or with any creditability, claim Obama is qualified!

Posted by: TotalNonsense | September 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

It was hilarious watching those idiots last night!!! I just really couldn't stop laughing.....It's intereesting to see that Obama nor Biden said anything negative today about any of those d$ckheads.....This let's me know that the U.S. and the world is getting ready to be entertained by Friday evening with the b.s. that is about to be uncovered on this woman!! I am holding onto my seat! It is definitely not like Biden to get with this woman and attack her. He was actually smirking today when being asked about her. Biden was like, oh, she's a real nice lady....boy, I bet cha that Obama's campaign has already vetted this woman thoroughly and they don't want crap to do with what's about to come out on this one!!! Inquiring minds want to know! Let's just sit back and enjoy the show. Boy, I tell ya, that McCain knows just how to get his republican base back for not allowing him to choose Liebermann. paybacks a itchbay!!! LMAO

Posted by: Lucy | September 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

You all make me sick. The only thing that will settle everyone's non-sence is to get rid of government. Think about it.. then the right can be happy with themselves, and the left doesn't have any one to blame anymore... I heard something last night that made sence, for once: "I'm a Republican because I didn't want to spend the rest of my life poor waiting for the government to save me." Republican or not, god bless Gov. Huckabee for making sence.

Posted by: Independence from media Tyrants | September 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

LOL, speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious. Its like a Jib Jab almost

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse


Obama was petulant and pouting today. Poor baby.


Posted by: julia | September 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

A lot of misinformation here.

www.factcheck.org

USE IT, READ IT, LOVE IT.

Posted by: TheTruth | September 4, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

You Americans don't know how lucky you are to have a wonderful leader in Obama. if you don't elect him down there, we'll take him up here.

Palin is a disaster!!!!

Posted by: Mart from Toronto | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM

PLEASE, TAKE HIM NOW!!!

Posted by: Lan | September 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Nice guys do finish last. They should throw the train on Palin!

Posted by: nice guys | September 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

A pitbull with lipstick? That's not what I want representing me.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Liberals are Hipocrits. It amazes me how stupid people are when voting and all they can say is "I don't know what he has accomplished, but there is something I like about him". Wake Up!
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Keitha, before you start calling people stupid, you should stop to think how dumb it makes you look when you can’t even spell correctly. It’s hypocrite, not Hipocrit!

Posted by: lhummer | September 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Supreme Irony Alert: The Slobbering Liberoid Democrat Media Shills for Obama have been floundering in an orgy of lies, smears and gutter politics to destroy Gov. Palin.

They have succeeded in giving Gov. Palin the highest ratings in history to make the case against Obama, enraging Mainstream America about Liberal Media Bias, raising millions of dollars for McCain-Palin, uniting the Republican Party, and energizing their conservative base to get out the vote.

Nice job!

Posted by: philly | September 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain-Palin equals America on a chicken wing and a prayer. These idiots are going to get us all killed.

I am sick and tired of listening to crazy people claiming to talk to God on a daily basis. ANYONE that hides behind the bible to justify his/her own perversions is nothing but a moronic nutcase!


Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm not human, or a parrot, I'm a homodon.

Posted by: Robert NYC | September 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Susan Eisenhower: Barack is the best choice (CNN Interview)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Kmsv8-Jzk&feature=related

When Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter Susan said "Yes we can!" over 84,000 supporters at the Democrat Convention cheered her on and yelled "Yes we can!"

My Favorite Eisenhower Story From Wikipedia. Dwight could have been a Professional Football player?

At West Point, Eisenhower made the football team. He started as a varsity running back and linebacker in 1912. In a bit of a fabled match-up, he even tackled the legendary Jim Thorpe in a 1912 game.

Courting Ike Eisenhower and Harry Truman fans. Change we can believe in.

Obamacans for Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Republican Football Fan | September 4, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Obama! Keep being meek and non aggressive and the Republicans will take this election right from under our nose.

Nice guys ALWAYS finish last!

Posted by: Sarah | September 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Prospero, the tables have never turned, they still haven't turned. You are obviosly another parrot.

Get off my fuching blog you ignorant anus lover!

Posted by: Oh ya | September 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that the Dems can't see through Obama's lies?

http://www.FastArizona.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Keitha wrote -
"Liberals are Hipocrits. It amazes me how stupid people are when voting and all they can say is "I don't know what he has accomplished, but there is something I like about him". Wake Up!"

Are you trying to say your own party isn't hypocrites? And tell me, why did you vote for G.W. Bush again? Because you vote for the symbol on their poster and not for the person they are. Right?

Mr. Obama has something McCain lacks, intelligence. We don't need another dumb president. 8 years of that crap was enough. So sir, you are the one who needs to wake up. You and any other fool who votes blindly and ignores facts.

Thanks.

Posted by: Jack B | September 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Independence, I believe we should remember the world leadership of American was gained and saluted because of our absolute greatest and strongest economy, that was clearly without guns, bombs and forces. I am so glad to hear the candidates talking about cutting earmark and eliminate the wasteful spending, but with just Iraq alone, more than 10 billion a month budgeting!!! How does everyone think that number amount of money coming from? Tax payer!!! we want it to spend well to lift up our life. Don't they think that amount could fund many many more of nationwide improvement, economy, jobless, infrastructure and so on.
Not for satisfying the ambitions and legacy on some international political game playing.

OBAMA-BIDEN is not the best choice, but without any question, they are our better choice.

Posted by: Passager | September 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Robert NYC -
are you a human, or a parrot.

You just parroted the talking points of the RNC.

Got of this fuching blog, you ignorant anus.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain + Palin = (America on a chicken wing and a prayer).

Anyone that claims to be in contact with God on a daily basis is on drugs!

Guys do your research on Palin, this woman is a nut!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin needs to behave like a God-fearing Christian woman and take care of her DS son and her unwed teen daughter. The GOP is in big trouble this year. Where are Palin’s family values? So sad. Go Obama!

Posted by: Sean | September 4, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

.. and to add to that:

Palin: "I told the Congress "thanks, but no thanks," for that Bridge to Nowhere."
After getting the money from Washington. And then spent it on something else rather. I thought "no, thanks" would mean returning the money, really...

Palin: " What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer is to make government bigger ... take more of your money ... give you more orders from Washington ... and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world. America needs more energy ... our opponent is against producing it."
Obama: "If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves. ... I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. .... And for the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East."

Palin: "Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?"
Obama: "When John McCain said we could just "muddle through" in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources and more troops to finish the fight against the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11, and made clear that we must take out Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants if we have them in our sights. John McCain likes to say that he'll follow bin Laden to the Gates of Hell - but he won't even go to the cave where he lives."

and more on the subject...

Palin: "Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?"
Obama: "...Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from."
And yes, I am worried that we throw people in jails without reading them their rights, as that is a violation of our laws. Governer Palin, as a law-abiding American, shouldn't you be worried about that, too? After Abu Ghraib??

Posted by: Lee | September 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The best is yet to come. The Republicans are rockin'

The US is tired of faux democrats and ugly men.

woof woof, 'fraid of a cat?

Posted by: whybother | September 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: secede this commie | September 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Like she just scares you Lefties to death doesn't she?

Good to see the tables finally turned.

Posted by: Prospero | September 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I am mystified at all of the comments criticizing Palin's lack of experience but not questioning Obama's even lesser experience. He has only worked 143 days as a US Senator and we're going to hand the country over to him? I would let a mechanic work on my car with that experience level. He should come back after he's actually DONE something.

Posted by: Mystified | September 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

This is pretty depressing. Not Obama or McCain or Palin, but all these comments.

Obama? That's not an Irish surname. He must be a Muslim (I'm not even sure why that would be a problem).

Palin knows how to use a firearm and believes in a God (just like Obama and Biden and McCain claim to). She must be crazy. Oh, and she's from Alaska and her daughter is pregnant, so she's trailer trash too, right?

McCain is old, so he's insane.

Obama is wealthy, so he's an elitist.

You know what they say about people getting the government they deserve...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Let's be serious here..

Palin: "And maybe that's because they realize there is a time for politics and a time for leadership ... a time to campaign and a time to put our country first."
Obama: "I've got news for you, John. We ALL put our country first!"


Palin: "I came to office promising major ethics reform"
... and you are now under an ethics investigation. That's major. But is that "reform"?

Palin: "Our state budget is under control. We have a surplus."
I wonder why... Oh! Quoting other media: "Most of Alaska's oil production comes from land owned by the state. Now the state has even emposed the long-hated "oil windfalls tax"... ultimately just raising the price of oil produced there - price that we feel at the pump. So, every resident this year will get a $3,200 payout. That's $22,400 for a family of seven, like Palin's. And Alaska, despite its oil boom, is still at the top of states subsidized by federal dollars, receiving $1.84 back from Washington for every $1 that Alaskans pay in federal taxes. (California receives 78 cents for every $1)". (c)
So a state, that's got "more money than it knows what to do with" is raising our oil prices and also getting our money.. They have a surplas. By the means of our taxes. Does that even sound right?

Posted by: Lee | September 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

If Obama was White he would not have gotten this far.His "race" has helped him. Helping with "Social Problems" in chicago is qualification for election...NFW.
However being a POW is no qualification either. A good pilot doesn't get shot down.
Sara Palin is the best person to come out in this race on both sides. I think rudy would have been better, but at least Hillery won't be on the ticket.

Posted by: AVet | September 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

i would not be surprise to see MCcain as the next president...if Americans can ellect Bush for 8 years that's nothing for them to do.

Posted by: wes | September 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah,I won't a lawyer running the country. Have you ever had a lawyer look after the interest of everyday people. Think about it!

Posted by: Keita | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM

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Hey Leah, have you ever heard of a guy named Abraham Lincoln?

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow,

This country needs help.

http://www.FastArizona.com

Posted by: Arizona | September 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

WHy is everyone so hung up about her great night? Her speech was written by someone, top notch advisors to coach her on presentation, she had a teleprompter to help delivery, and an adoring crowd waiting to lap up every word... At that rate every good looking gal in the country can pull it off:)) BTW, how many of them are there....a dime a dozen!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse


Which candidate has a Law Degree and is well versed in constitutional law?

Eight is enough!

Posted by: letsjustvote | September 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama does not want to talk about himself because he loses on all points there.

Fact still remains - he has no credible experience. Zero, zilch, none.

His mouth got him this far, but his resume cannot cash the check. Every single other candidate - Presidential and Vice-Presidential has more experience and qualifications than Obama-come-lately.

Posted by: Robert NYC | September 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, both parties have issues that they don't and won't address. One thing I didn't see is Republicans causing damage to public places, sick but thats the attitude cultivated through the constant BS played out. Most people want to believe and follow this, because it comes from their party. I see complaints that the Republicans destroyed the economy, our budget and took us to a war that we should hide from. It takes a vote in the Congress and Senate for the US to go to War. But then the complaint comes up, they were lied to and thus made a wrong decision. So far the Dems have had the majority Congress and Senate seats for over a year, telling its followers they would make change. So far none have been made, but we keep believing something will happen. Don't hold your breath, the same will take place if Sen. Obama gets into the white house. One thing all of us forget are we are all Americans and they work for us, Ha Ha. The House speaker wants to save the earth and not support reducing our costs of oil. Some of these comments made, show how little people want to know what are the facts and base their decision on faith of it being true as delivered.

Posted by: Paparef | September 4, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Winning the war is not the way the Americans should go for the election. We are past that period of time. We have to rebuild our reputation. War appeals to many to win an election. This is the Republican trap.

Posted by: Ali | September 4, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Here we have a party of inbred theocrats, cheering rapidly for a woman they have no idea about, and they can be excused, they are ignorant of their own position in society. What is most telling about the ignorance of the party is when you have Romney talking up Palin, Gulianni (cross dresser) talking her up and all these leaders acting just like the retards - and I don't mean trig!

Where is the leadership of the GOP?

I know, they got on the life boats.

That ship is sinking fast....

Posted by: what is most telling | September 4, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Have you read the Platform of the American People, A Red, White, and Blue Revolution. Check it out at wwww.american solutions.com - These are some of the issues we need to resolve in this century.
It is supported by an majority of Dems, Reps, and Independents.

Posted by: Joan | September 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama dismisses Governor Palin just like Hillary and her 18 million democratic voters. Obama has met his match in Palin who will appeal to many of Hillary voters that he should not have dismissed.

Obama is now becoming old news! with no talk about Biden.

Posted by: abel | September 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

the RNC makes me sick, like it is telling everybody we owe McCain a vote? Aren't we suppose to vote for the right person with right vision and right ideas? where is Palin's idea other than her Bush like mindless talk? being right and being tough are not necessarily the same! we need a person who can do the right thing for the country in the right direction! Republicans just dont' get it!

Posted by: Steven2005A | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Americans love a good variety show. All we saw an actor pretending be our next vice president. Peggy Noonan said it best, Palin is cynical with a 'B.S. narrative---enough said.

Posted by: Arriana | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Yeah,I won't a lawyer running the country. Have you ever had a lawyer look after the interest of everyday people. Think about it!

Posted by: Keita | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Whoever is tending this site, please remove the post by "No solutions, just divisive rhetoric," posted at 3:53 pm. How did this get by you? I am not a Palen supporter, but this infuriates me, which of course is what "No solutions.." wants.

Posted by: Judith dePonceau | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Ellie - Take this from someone who knows...just because you graduated from Harvard does not make you smart. It looks good on a remume though. \

Posted by: Anon | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Pallin are the most filthiest & dumbest choice we have as a leader for the country. That sounds just like four more years of the past eight George Bush/Dick Cheyney Years. NO THANKS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"At some point we've got to stop that and get serious."

She got dissed :) :D

Posted by: Hoosiers | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

SCARED of Sarracuda?

Hee hee hee......I predict by the end of next week she will be a national laughingstock after the press devours her sorry a$$.

She picked a fight last night with her condescending remarks about the press, and now they are going to crucify her. So you can get a little taste of what it's like to have YOUR candidate skewered in the press, because unlike the "other" side, she actively was looking for a fight.

National Laughingstock by next Friday.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: Haniel | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

The people who mindlessly chant "USA USA USA" behind the conservative nominees are probably ignorant, brainwashed fools. They are only a tool of the Republican party, distracted by non-issues, to cast votes for an ignorant old man from the 1930's and an ignorant woman from a detached part of the country.

Patriotism. You people don't even know the meaning of the word. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: 181 | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Leah said:
Oh, and Obama needs to stop whining. It was ok for the Dems to attack McCain all week, but as soon as Mr. Precious gets it he can't take it. I didn't hear one "plan" come out of the dem conventation, so I have no idea what he is talking about. Sure, they talked about their ideas, but lets get real...how are they going to solve all of our problems? I surely didn't see the answer, nor do I see it on Obama's website.

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Leah,
As an Obama supporter, I am disappointed to see your post. To be sure, you decided to vote for McCain because Palin is from a small town and has executive experience?

You are right that she has executive experience. I won't criticize you for valuing that... it is a good thing (though not the only thing).

The main reason I am writing to you is because you said you didn't understand Obama's plan. I do. I will try to explain to you (if you're still willing to listen).

On Energy:
Obama want to achieve energy independence in 10 years by investing in a broad range of clean fuel programs, and scientific research. He believes that by lowering taxes and offer federal grants to the automakers in Michigan, we can 1) create cleaner cars and 2) create jobs.

Honestly, McCain's plan is sort of similiar with three main differences. 1) He thinks that off-shore drilling can solve (at least in part) the problem, and 2) he wants to build nuclear power plants and store the waste in Nevada. 3) He doesn't believe that manufacturing jobs belong in America (his words-- not mine).

Economy:
Obama wants to cut taxes! Yes, cut taxes! He wants to increase consumer spending by cutting income taxes for everyone except the top 5% of earners. He believes that will spur consumer investing. He also argues that the banking industry need federal oversight (in lieu of the housing market drop out). Also, he will end the war in Iraq that will save a lot of money.

McCain will make Bush's tax cuts permanent and cut taxes further--- EVEN IN THE MIDST OF CONTINUING A WAR!! (sorry for the caps, but his position to me isridiculous). McCain also has argued for more free trade agreements. Finally, he believes the only way manufacturing workers will find new jobs is to be completely retrained for the "new market" (whatever that may be)


Health care:
Obama has a plan. McCain doesn't. (I know this seems brief, but honestly that is what it boils down to).


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Leah, you should choose whomever you want and obviously you are free to use whatever reasons you want as a basis. I would urge you to reconsider. Just because Palin has executive doesn't mean that she knows what is best for the country.

God's love,


Obama-Biden 2008
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Why do Republicans believe in the closest loveone's right to choose pulling the plug on terminal ill patients? It is very expensive for a person to live on life support, but if there's life why not allow a person to live on a machine because God might breath complete life back in the patient....so he/she can live independly of life support. But I understand, life support is expensive. Well, I believe life starts at conception....But not independent life. I believe a mother have that personal decision to abort before there's independent life.

Posted by: keith | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for the Republicans to acknowledge the reason that "Change" is the theme of this election is due to Americans being fed up with THEIR failed policies, corruption, croney-ism, and short-sighted and selfish decisions.

They need to ask for our forgiveness before asking for our vote.

Posted by: Kevin | September 4, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin shows traits comparable to George W Bush, albeit a female form. Truth may not matter to her for rampant lies. Americans will do better and send McCain-Palin (realistically Rove-Davis) packing and reclaim the country from lawlessness.

Posted by: MP | September 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I love Obama. I love gays. I love all liberals.

Posted by: Tim Gustafson | September 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Giuliani is such a Moran last night one of his statements "Well, if America lost, who won? Al Qaida? Bin Laden?..." audience didn't respond, the repugnican crowd didn't know how to respond. Where is Bin Laden, Mr. Giuliani? Osama attacked US on your watch!! Al Qaida is alive and kicking NATO a** and poor Karzai is living in bunker.

Posted by: Power2People | September 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the kid spitting in her hands and slicking down the baby's hair...oh my goodness...what manners???!!! Such a charming trailer off spring....imagine them in the white house or doing a press conference....they might spit out tabacco? lOL

Sarah Pallin = PWT & sex scandal!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Disgusted,

You better believe NARAL, NOW AND EMILY'S LIST will make a big issue of Palin's disgusting and sadistic views on reproductive rights.

Posted by: Palin Sucks!!! | September 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I challenge all bloggers here to research the water, energy and infrastructure problems the U.S. will face in the next 5 - 20 years and beyond and tell me which party will address them seriously. Get off the party and into the issues.

Posted by: Zahle96 | September 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Palin's selection for the vice presidency on the Repugnant ticket is something that should be rejoiced by the Democrats. This was an act of desparation by the Repugnants. With the great success of the Democratic convention they could clearly see the writing on the wall and they hastily and desparately decided that they had to do something to change the dynamics at play and Palin was selected, though completely unvetted.

Needless to say this type of high odds gambling has little chance of succeeding. More and more things about Palin will come to the surface as they already are every single day.

Posted by: Paula Roberts | September 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

"For Real pretty much said it.

I don't want to compete with emerging global superpowers with a retarded inbred hick family at the helm."


I agree. i don't want to be invaded.

Posted by: I agree with them | September 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

The most powerful position on planet earth requires a leader with proven leadership, proven wisdom, proven ability to work both sides of the aisle, proven convictions about what is right for America and not someone who is inexperienced in fiscal & budgetary policy, foreign affairs and organizational integrity. You only have to inspect & digest the "actual" record and actions of the candidates over their respective careers to figure out who would be the best choice for the good of ALL Americans - John McCain. But, alas, I realize that the majority of people do not want to look for substance and make their own conclusions based upon the evidence. Obama is the weakest candidate to ever run and I can't believe people are buying into his Polyanna policies. God help us.

Posted by: heartland | September 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I am a sick far left Pinco.Heidi k these people and me really have our heads up somewhere else and that explains the cowardly scare out look on real American values God bless

Posted by: jaked | September 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

She cut funding for single teen moms in Alaska... pro-birth all the way I guess you could say.

I loved it when she said:

"Republicans are the party that believes everybody has the right to work"

You know, as opposed to believing in worker's rights.

Posted by: DISGUSTED | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/palin-overcame-teleprompter-problems-missing-hard-copies

Are you kidding me?! So every other speaker (on the biggest night of the RNC's life) experienced the same problems, but there is not a single mention (nor any evidenced hiccups during their speeches) from any of them? The height of incompetence may have just been reached for this grand old party...but I suspect the simple technical issues (how long have we had teleprompters around? :) weren't the real issue.

And Sarah Palin doesn't have the wits about her (nor do any of her closest advisers, nor the vetters from the McCain campaign) to check they have the final version of the biggest speech she's ever delivered? She may simply not have enough experience reading from a teleprompter on the big stage and/or she didn't write the speech so she couldn't know she was reading the wrong one. But then I could be wrong, and so could Fox News :)

It's hard to believe that McCain, who I have developed a strongly media-filtered view of as having integrity, has used this tactic to give his party's faithful hope for the upcoming debate and/or interviews. But, then again, it may not be McCain at all disseminating this laughable attempt at redirection. It's conceivable that Fox might take an opportunity to create a blatantly deceptive story in order to push forward the Republican agenda and bolster it's own conservative credentials.

Does this not make sense to anyone else? :)

Posted by: David | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Tim Gustafson wrote:
Hey Veggiedude, that's "SECEDE" from Alaska, not "SUCCEED" from Alaska. Don't know if your ignorance is derived from your liberal upbringing or the lack of red meat in your diet. But in either event, it's indicative of your lack of literary accumen and of most liberals in general.

As long as we're talking grammatical errors, it's "acumen" not "accumen". Accumen is not a word.


Posted by: allstarz | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks that Sarah Palin is qualified to be Vice-President of the United States needs a brain transplant.

Posted by: CSFurious | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

LOL, speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious. Its like a Jib Jab almost

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Yes timgustafson, you have a pretty good command of the english language (accumen, that's pretty good. Was'nt it your folks that could not spell p-o-t-a-t-o?

Posted by: anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I do not like the negative comments between parties. People, we are talking about our country. I will not critize Sarah as a woman, but I do not believe she is ready or qualified to handle the politics of what we consider one of, if not the most powerful country in the world. Say what you will, Obama is more qualified, he was the top law school graduate in the country from an valued American institute "Harvard" - do you all realize what type of person it takes to achieve this. I wish he had picked Hillary, but that's in the past.

Posted by: Ellie | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Reading some of these comments show the ignorance of some Americans. Obama is a ignoramus. Also, if you have teenage kids, maybe they will let you go on dates with them so you can make sure they don't turn out like Sarah Palin's daughter. Did any of you making derogatory comments about Palin's daughter ever have SEX before turning whatever the magic age is? Liberals are Hipocrits. It amazes me how stupid people are when voting and all they can say is "I don't know what he has accomplished, but there is something I like about him". Wake Up!

Posted by: Keitha | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin was not John McCain's first pick, the party not wanting to tolerate what they would consider an extremist view of womens right to choose reduced, his options. So the would be commander and chief was influenced by party politics, and puts party before country.
This is a signature of what to expect from a McCain presidency.

Although the republican slogan on the election signs state "County First" I think Sara Palin got it right John McCain should be judged by his deeds.

Posted by: independent thinker | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin was picked by only one person: McCain. Obama was brought forth by millions of Americans. 'nuff said.

Posted by: jerryt | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm coming to understand Palin's position of hunting wolves from helicopters, they are dangerous and overpopulated, plus the wolves have done a horrible job of raising her kids!

Posted by: THE curious black | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin is too green. The only thing she has going for her are looks and looks is nothing without substance. She offered nothing substantive worth debating. All we heard were tirades, insults and a bimbo in lipstick.

Posted by: Able12 | September 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice how long of an applause Sarah Palin got? It went on for like 10 minutes. I was laughing the whole time. Here we have all these brainless idiots applauding someone for 10 minutes they just found out about like 3 days ago that they have know idea about. And the other funny thing I noticed is that Palin didn't have the leadership ability to take a hold of the mic and tell everyone when she was ready to speak. If the audience didn't quiet down for like 1 minute or so of dead silence the audience would have just kept going. Hell it would've went on for a half hour. LOL. If McCain would've picked joe smo down the street, these people would've have followed them to the end of the earth. What a bunch of sheep, absolute insanity. You know what I'm reminded of when I see Sarah Palin, you ever watch Professional Wrestling, where like the wrestler has his female wrestler up their talking tough. I'm gonna put the pain on you. She's a hockey lover right? Not too far from pro wrestling if you ask me. I'll bet if they did a poll of the Republican party probably over 50% of them watch pro wrestling on a regular basis. Total morons.

Posted by: rnc sheep | September 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Brian,

OMFG are you kidding me?! Palin has "done more for the US in 2 years than Obama, Biden and (even) McCain" ?!

LMFAO~ WHAT?!!! EXACTLY WHAT has Sarracuda done for the US in the past 2 years? Her STATE has a lower population than my mid-size city. Well, she did get them (wasilla) over 26 million in EARMARKS.

The 'pubs are barring the press from asking her ANYTHING so just HOW is it that you KNOW what she has "done for America"?

What a joke, this vile woman....hee hee hee hee hee.....!

Posted by: Haniel | September 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Yes she is a bible thumper but that wont hurt anyone. Electing Obama will.

Posted by: Brian | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM


Hey Brian, go to Baghdad and tell that to the Sunnis/Shiites that have lost members of their families due to our "God Sanctioned" invasion!!! I am sick and tired of listening to crazy people claiming to talk to God on a daily basis. ANYONE that hides behind the bible to justify his/her own perversions is nothing but a moronic nutcase!


Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain supporters:

I am an undecided voter who has been watching both conventions. I have a decent sense of the Democrat's policy proposals, but have no idea about the Republican's. Please tell me -- in specifics -- what the Repubs are going to do to clean up Washington. I have to agree with Obama on this one.. The convention so far hasn't had much substance.

Posted by: Curious | September 4, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Reading all of the scared Democrat comments here, posted after a completely liberal media-crap filled articles has made my day.

I'm so glad that you all are completely intimidated by the next vice president of the united states.

You should be.

Posted by: laughing@urignorance | September 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain is out of touch and knows it. 7 houses, $300,000 dollar outfit on his wife. Sarah Palin is nothing more than his poster child - down home hockey mom. She is quoted as saying I don't really know what a vice president does - McCain is quoted as saying a vice presidents job is to watch the obituaries and attend state funerals.

I actually thought she delivered an impressive speech last but she did not embody the speech as Obama does.

Palin is a good presenter

Obama is a leader

McCain is Bottom of Class, Bad Pilot, P.O.W., Hero (? not according to Vietnam Vets - ref the McCain Act), Old School Politician, Old, Maverick

Didn't Ford make a Maverick that had a habit of catching on fire. Oh no that was the Pinto.

Well I guess since Palin ignited the party - He's the Maverick and she's the Pinto.

Yee Haw give me a moose burger - she's qualimafyed

Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure how this race could even be close, I suspect the popular vote will be a landslide and the media has to play up the race to keep people interested. The GOP has done nothing but propose to drill for oil which is a short term gimmick and wont even be viable for 10 years so really does nothing. Sarah Palin is a trick a** ho when she talks all I can think about is a trailer park and how pathetic the religious right is, go choke on one and then vote Obama

Posted by: BILLLL | September 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if he is just mad about not being the biggest star in the world anymore. LOL hopeFully Sarah Palin will do perfect tonight at the convention. This will be the single most important moment for her, Everyone will be watching. If you want to know more about Palins Background, Her Families Background., and Pics and Videos they have an extensive amount of info at http://www.veeppeek.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand Obama! I am so proud to have McCain and Palin represent Republicans. I am so excited about this election. Obama keeps running around in circles with everything he says. He NEVER answers questions head on. How can Obama say that Palin didn't talk about herself last night? Did he not listen to her speech? She spent 1/2 her speech telling us everything she has done. What the heck have you done Obama? You will run this country to the ground if you become president. This country should be scared if that happens.

Posted by: Courtney | September 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I watched in horror last night while Ms. Palin pontificated on the greatness of John McCain and the Republican party but never once gave us any ideas of what the McCain/Palin Administration would do to resolve all the problems that have occurred in the past 8 years. She can "spit and holler" but can't define any ideas for this country! The Bush Administration has been the laugh of the century - 8 more years of republicanism is scary and a big joke. Nothing will be changed by these two "super heroes"

Posted by: Frustrated | September 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

And, let me add....Why won't Obama travel with McCain and do the town halls? I don't get that. I want to hear from my next president in a non-scripted setting. Oh wait, I remember...Obama doesn't do well unless he has a speech written for him. He doesn't know how to answer questions on the fly because he is too concerned on how it will be viewed rather than just telling us how he feels.

I can't wait until this election. I am finally fired up, I will finally give money to McCain, and I will finally work for the campaign.

What a proud day to be a woman! Too bad NOW doesn't feel the same way. As a young woman I am ashamed of NOW. I can see now you are not worthy of their support unless you are in line with what they consider how a woman should think. Sorry NOW...its about supporting women, not supporting women who agree with you. Hyprocisy at its best!

Posted by: Linda | September 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

BZ, I suppose YOU started the "Obama is a Muslim" blogs. Tell me, how is it in trailor town?? I would love to see where you live, and what you do for a living. You obviously are in that top 1% that that McCain gives all the breaks to.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey "True War Hero," you misspelled veteran.

Posted by: anon | September 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I believe anyone who takes a childs life should be imprisoned... It's no different than throwing the baby in a duster... Incest or rape. It's not the baby's fault. No, we should not help pregnant teens. That would just enable them & make it even more expectable. (I had my first child at 15, I know what it's like.) Who knows, with as expectable as gays are these days, in the future, we wont even have to worry about these issues.

Posted by: Whatsitmatter | September 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not going to respond to silly stuff.... Sarah Palin is not nearly as qualified as Obama or Biden.

Sarah Palin has a degree in journalism and was the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska 20 months ago....a city of about 7,000 that does not have the complex issues of crime, drugs, infrastructure, of hundreds of the cities in the U.S.

She herself compares her experience as a mayor to Obama's experience as a community organizer. The only problem is Obama was a community organizer right out of college over 21 years ago not 21 months. He was 23 years old right out of college from Columbia University not 42 (age Palin was as mayor).

-He was a community organizer while practicing civil rights law and before he went back to school and received his law degree from Havard, and before he became the editor of Havard Law Review.

-He was a community organizer before he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School

-He was a community organizer before he wrote and co-sponsored laws as an Illinois State Senator for 8 years. Bills that increased tax credits, made welfare reform, increased subsidies for childcare, and bipartisan laws that help prevent racial profiling and death penalty reform while as Chairman of Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee.

- He was a community organizer before he wrote and co-sponsored laws and ethic reforms as a U.S. Senator for 3 years. Publicly wrote about why Iraq War would be a long and expensive war, and we should focus on catching Bin Ladin and the terrorist who attacked us in Afghanistan. Ushered bipartisan law for veterans can receive better care and created more transparancey in Washington.

-He was a community organizer before he beat the best and wealthiest political machine in the history of politics in the primaries. By utilizing his community organizing roots to build a grassroots machine of over 2 million every day Americans that have made small donations to his campaign to help change Washington and America from the bottom up instead of solely depending on big donations from lobbiest, corporations, and Washington insiders. That's Change We Need and have believed since day 1 of Obama's campaign.

What have Sarah Palin done? What have John McCain done that helps ordinary people?

Posted by: keith | September 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Veggiedude wrote:

"Palin wanted Alaska to succeed from the USA. Maybe she will get her wish afterall.

Posted by: veggiedude | September 4, 2008 4:28 PM"

Hey Veggiedude, that's "SECEDE" from Alaska, not "SUCCEED" from Alaska. Don't know if your ignorance is derived from your liberal upbringing or the lack of red meat in your diet. But in either event, it's indicative of your lack of literary accumen and of most liberals in general.

Posted by: timgustafson | September 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

As a woman who was in the undecided group of independents I have to say the more I read of what you supposed "liberals" have to say about Palin, her family and her experience - the more it makes me want to put up a friggin yard sign for McCain.

It's been 12 hours since her speech (which was intended to introduce her, not explore exhaustive policy positions) and my phone has been ringing off the hook from calls across the country with excitement over the possibility of her winning.

Keep up your sophomoric insults and that will only guarantee that you while have 4 years to practice up on them because that’s how long you will have to deal with her as VP.

Posted by: Anne in Jax | September 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

There are "personal" issues that do matter.
John McCain's health and mental fitness come to mind. Physically, he probably can make it to 76. Mentally, he appears to be about where Reagan was in his second term, incipient dementia. He can't recall his positions on issues or his votes in the Senate, or the number of his houses. He cannot tell the difference between Sunni and Shia Muslims, in spite of repeated corrections by pal Joe Lieberman. This week he thought governors command the National Guard. Sure, he'll have handlers, but don't we deserve better?

Unless Palin's daughter is pregnant by McCain, it's not a matter of interest. Of course, it would be evidence of vigor.

Posted by: Henst | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Because of God's mercy, grace and love for those created in His image, helpless aborted babies are saved into heaven.


Posted by: kenny hott | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM
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So what are you whining about then, Kenny? The clump of cells are in heaven aren't they?

When was the last time you actually helped a living breathing human being? Did you go down to say New Orleans after Katrina? Do you work with the truly poor and downtrodden amongst us?

Or all you do is thump your bible a little harder every day?

Posted by: Pillai | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of who wins this year, here is the winning ticked in 2012. Mark my words.
Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal

Posted by: Go Cuda | September 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

"BZ" - as soon as you said Obama was a Muslim, you lost all credibility. Where have you been? Under a frickin' rock? He is not has never been a Muslim. And so what if he were? Bin Laden could run the country better than these neocons, best frineds to the uber-rich and the enemy of every common person - including you, you clueless dork.

Posted by: JT | September 4, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Ken,
you must a liberal homo.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

For Real pretty much said it.

I don't want to compete with emerging global superpowers with a retarded inbred hick family at the helm.

Posted by: JC | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama just doesn't like it that they've highlighted him for who he is: an empty suit who can talk a good game, but in reality has done nothing. For the life of me I can't understand why these so-called "educated Democrats" would pick him over Clinton. Looking at their platforms side by side, it was clear that Clinton had a better in-depth knowledge of the issues and had very detailed plans on how to address them. Obama's platform is just a lot of empty handwaving. The only thing that is clear about it is that it's going to cost an enormous amount of money which the Dems will get by raising taxes, cutting the military, and increasing the national debt - something that they've done since LBJ (Bill Clinton's surplus was due to the dot-com bubble. It disappeared not long after that bubble burst). This country needs to severely cut back entitlement spending now. Unfortunately, I don't think either of the major parties are going to do that at all since that's one of the ways they derive their power. So it looks like it's back to who will screw up the US the least and that's McCain.

Posted by: kws | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

All the people that talk bad about McCain/Palin will be the same people that will be crying when we lose our country .
who will keep us safe? not Obama.
Who will keep us working not Obama.
Who will pay for all the new taxes. We will.
All you people that just talk to talk have no facts you make me sick. god help us all if Obama wins . thanks to the news people.

Posted by: jimmy | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

donrjames was rifght on the mark.

Posted by: LynnH | September 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Just a couple of question for the Republicans:
Change -
How can they talk about change when they had the chance for 8 years to do that? In what sense is McCain's policy different from Bush's?
National Debt -
Are you aware that George W. practically sold the country to the Chinese so that he can finance an irresponsible war? Americans are swimming in debt, both at the national and family level. I doubt that the Chinese are willing to finance US spending forever.
How will lowering taxes solve this problem?
Energy policy -
The assessment that America is dependent on oil (thus the Middle East) is correct, however drilling more holes and siphoning whatever is left faster is not the solution.
I don't know what clean in case of coal might mean but coal is just another way of increasing CO2 emission. So the only way to go is nuclear (with all the waste it produces for coming centuries) or solar and wind. These last two were hardly mentioned at all in republican speeches.

Think about it and then vote accordingly.

Posted by: papszi | September 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I am heartened by the outpouring of comments. 23 comments on this string so far, only 1 in favor of the McCain/Palin pair. Out of touch, out of touch, out of touch. In a strange sort of way, the choosing of Palin was good - I have never been so energized and called to work to get Obama in office as I am now. I don't think the Republicans counted on the intense backlash from choosing an anti-choice, creationist promoting, abstinence only extemist.

What there is to do now is GET TO WORK to promote a progressive minded, future looking candidate - one who thinks from the whole and isn't mired in fear-mongering.

Posted by: Curt Hill | September 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

All of these flailing, desperate responses to Palin are a sign of the Left coming unhinged - and sure sign that Obama is in serious trouble. While Obama has been busy measuring the drapes in the White House, the Republicans went out and made an election out of it.

Posted by: Tyde | September 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about Palin's family. I care about mine. Please America, VOTE ON THE ISSUES. Do not get charmed again, by either party. If you liked the last 8 years, Palin is great...even more to the right than Bush.
Please vote carefully..
Thank you

Posted by: David K
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Amen to that, brother.

Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

If you want to be scared, watch O'reilly interview Obama tonight...finally a real interview for the king of smoke and mirrors...and his record shows he did what?????

Rudy busted his butt good last night. If you line up resumes, Obama's gets the circular file.

Posted by: Tony | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"He has never said how he will do ANYTHING, unlike McCain"

Really, Bob? UNLIKE McCain???

How does McCain plan to "win" the war in Iraq? How will we know when we've "won"? What is his plan for Afghanistan?
How will his health care plan actually reduce costs? I know he says it will, but how? Why?

What is his plan for the credit crunch? How does he plan to reduce unemployment?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama-Junkie...

That's why I enlisted. To serve my country and protect my family. You should try it.

Posted by: Iraqi Vet | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Well, after much thought and soul searching....I have decided that I am going to vote for McCain/Palin in 08. I may not agree with Palin on abortion, but she made me feel for the first time that we would have someone in office that actually is a small town gal and more important is not from Washington. I wasn't going to vote since I tend to despise Senators (they do nothing), but putting Palin on the ticket has made me realize McCain is the change candidate and not Obama. When Obama chose Biden he lost my vote. Here this man has told me for months, and yes I was leaning his way, that he was all about change and then he stick a worthless senator on the ticket. Why Obama...Why?

Oh, and Obama needs to stop whining. It was ok for the Dems to attack McCain all week, but as soon as Mr. Precious gets it he can't take it. I didn't hear one "plan" come out of the dem conventation, so I have no idea what he is talking about. Sure, they talked about their ideas, but lets get real...how are they going to solve all of our problems? I surely didn't see the answer, nor do I see it on Obama's website.

Posted by: Leah | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Do not think she is against the Iraq war. She gave a speech in which she called the Iraq war a "task from God." This dangerously unfit person would continue this nation down an irresponsible trainwreck course.

Posted by: patrick | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Ok Bob, you obviously have not watched any of his speeches or the DNC. Barack Obama deals strictly with his policies and issues. He does not smear like the republicans. Did you watch the RNC last night, nothing but ignorance and smears, no substance. Get real. Stop blogging, seriously.

Posted by: Ken | September 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If the dollar drops or the stock market slides down even more, or if thousands of more people lose they're homes, they'll have you morons debating on abortion issues or global warming instead of the real problems.

Posted by: Bob | September 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Typical republican convention---attack opponent and provide no substantive agenda for America. Its ironic just three weeks ago Palin praised Obama's energy policy and was pleased that Obama was polling well in her state. But once she became the VP nominee she becomes someone else. She's know become a low-class, angry, husband cheating MILF.

Posted by: Kelly K. | September 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

McCain is no war hero. He is a victim of abuse.

He only fought for 20 hours before being caught, then he got his ass kicked and denounced the U.S. govt. Go to www.vietnamvetransagainstmccain.com

He is a traitor.

Posted by: True War Hero | September 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama got most of policies right. They are mostly aligned with what Dem women stood for with Hillary. Only thing he does not do well is his lack of communication skills to empathize with women. Don't be combative. Listen to her, and show respect to where she came from. She is a principal driven strong lady with a strong value. I do not agree with the value, but she is an authentic person. I hope Obama will show a bit more authenticity to today's views of the world for women who carry the burdens of care-giving, family, education, and career. We work not for our ego, but for the necessity as well to support family and save for retirement. Having said all, I will support Obama's policies.

Posted by: Emily | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

As someone who listed to Palin's speech in an effort to understand and become familiar with her, I'm disappointed. No policy, no meat. Just high school put downs.

Palin is an embarrassment to anyone who thinks we need a serious candidate. But no one disappointed more than McCain. Choosing her was a shallow decision making this combination not really worthy of consideration.

Posted by: Dismayed | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow, are you libs clueless. Palin is all style and no substance, I almost spit up my coffee when I read that one.

You surely must have been thinking Obama and accidentally wrote Palin. There has never been an empty suit like Obama in the history of politics. He is promising the world and you all think he can deliver it. Where is the money going to come from?

He said he's going to raise taxes on corporations? Duh, so they are just going to raise their prices, which is going to effect the "little people" that the Dumbocrats so famously think they represent.

What a joke. Obama is a Muslim and his ideas have ALL failed in other governments all around the world. Wake up you dummies.

Posted by: BZ | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

If you are wondering what has gone so wrong over the last eight years all you had to do was listen to Governor Palin's speech last night.

A young man gives up the start of a lucrative career and instead chooses to work in service to his country. His sacrifice is received with derision and ridicule to the roars of the Republican Convention. Why?
Because the young man chose to do his service in an American city
instead of a foreign battlefield. His sacrifice is not worth of
Republican praise or respect but is the punch line to a joke. The only service worthy of their admiration comes behind an M16.

Is it any wonder that for eight years we have lived through a diplomatic nightmare? Our oldest and most important allies have all but deserted us.
This administration no longer feels any need to consult with our friends or talk with our adversaries and they have labeled everyone not
agreeing with them as "irrelevant". These Republicans only understand
honor at the point of a gun.

The Republicans who have taken over the party feel nothing but distain for diplomacy and dismiss civilian service as a joke. Can there be any wonder why we have been at war for seven years? Is there any doubt that we will find our way into another with their leadership?

Palin might find some great material making fun of the people who have served in the Peace Corp or Americorp. She could get a good laugh talking about folks giving up their Saturday mornings to serve breakfast to the homeless. I wonder if she knows any good Mother Theresa jokes?
One thousand points of light were extinguished last night and Palin should be ashamed.

Posted by: don | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Palin is scary. All style, no substance. Wait until she gives an interview and makes her first of many off-color gaffes. I'm surprised that the GOP has fallen so hard for this unknown in these first few days hook, line, and sinker. Give it time. It's only s matter of days or weeks until her machismo from talking straight off a telepromter turns into stutters, pauses, and awkward moments of silence. That is if the GOP ever allows her to participate in an interview!!!

Posted by: Beltway Ryan, IN | September 4, 2008 3:50 PM

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actually her teleprompter wasn't working right.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/palin-overcame-teleprompter-problems-missing-hard-copies

but don't worry, Big O's was at the DNC.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will get much attention and rave reviews today for her speech, which she delivered effectively. When voters start examining her values and policies, they will turn away from her quickly. She is George Bush in skirt, without the "compassion."

Posted by: Moses Pendergrass | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Of course Obama dodges another time serious questions that need to be answered. He offers no factual evidence to combat what was said at the RNC last night, just that it's the same old politics that he's competing against - sounds like typical Obama rhetoric.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Classy Obama. Stop this political idol and its diva, please.

Posted by: Cc | September 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin wanted Alaska to succeed from the USA. Maybe she will get her wish afterall.

Posted by: veggiedude | September 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

If Palin is "the GOP answer to Barack Obama, I'll be expecting my phone call from the vatican to be considered for the next Pope!

Even my pit bull was insulted by this vile and obnoxious woman who hails from the meth capital of Alaska, a state with a population equivalent to a small city in the lower 48. Just say "NO" to miss moose burger.

This woman is a dominionist freak. She needs to go home and iron Hillary's shirts.

Posted by: Haniel | September 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

was going to comment on this but it would take to much time.and its like arguing with an 8 year old

Posted by: russell | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow, John, who's supporting John McCain, must really enjoy his work. He's working two jobs thanks to the failed economic policies of the Bush administration and now is supporting McCain who will continue more of the same.

People, it's not all about taxes. It's about deficits, a weak dollar, a failing public education system. All things that McCain is not talking about. He'd rather you just stay scared that another terrorist attack is coming.

Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes she is a bible thumper but that wont hurt anyone. Electing Obama will.

Posted by: Brian | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM


Hey Brian, go to Baghdad and tell that to the Sunnis/Shiites that have lost members of their families due to our "God Sanctioned" invasion!!! I am sick and tired of listening to crazy people claiming to talk to God on a daily basis. ANYONE that hides behind the bible to justify his/her own perversions is nothing but a moronic nutcase!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Three questions to ask Sarah Palin:

1. Do you think global warming is a hoax?

2. Do you believe the earth is only 7,000 years old and children should be taught that in schools?

3. Do you believe abstinence only education can curb teenage pregnancies?

CHECK AND MATE.

Posted by: playa | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM

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mostly, yes, no.

that's the best you got?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about Palin's family. I care about mine. Please America, VOTE ON THE ISSUES. Do not get charmed again, by either party. If you liked the last 8 years, Palin is great...even more to the right than Bush.
Please vote carefully..
Thank you

Posted by: David K | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey Sam...God gave Grace to have a pro abortionist at the healm of the country?

Hang it bud, God is clear with his Word that he is pro life! Not pro Obama...I've already got a messiah.

Posted by: Tony | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is a good speaker, I'll give her that. But while Obama wrote his own speech, she is a bullhorn for ingrained Bush opinions. If she was great at everything else, I still couldn't get over her statement given a couple of weeks ago in a TV interview: "Exactly what does a vice president do?"

Voters should think really hard if they trust their lives to a hockey mom in countries such as Iraq, Iran or Pakistan, or if they think Biden would do a better job. I work for City government in California, and the Mayor and Council members work hard at making this a better place, but I don't think any of them would liken their work to that of a Vice President. And this city has 100,000 inhabitants, not 6,500!

And what about putting the country first? Those hate mongering speeches, a president that openly chides the "angry left" show the true colors of the president and his cronies. Ask the rest of the world whether those speeches did anything to show America as a strong, united country. Not all Republicans are like that. Democrats and Republicans in the senate are trying hard to come up with an energy bill right now and are setting an example for how it's done.

It is difficult for me to understand that Republicans right now are still insisting on those old isolationist politics. Wake up, this is a new world of globalization! It is imperative that we understand that everything we do has to take into account the effect our actions have on this country AND the rest of the world. The Chinese own a good part of our stock market, and a small country like Germany is doing more to save the environment than the entire United States.

Politicians AND voters need to focus on the issues at hand, those that will have a direct impact on our lives and the lives of our children. The speeches at the Republican convention yesterday made me feel like I was in kindergarten.

Posted by: Feet on the Ground | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin was raised up by God to be nominated as the next vice president.
Surely if God could take a shepherd boy named David and make him king of Israel, He can surely can give her the wisdom and the ability to be vice president. People forget that a president has a cabinet with people to help rule that are given wisdom to them by God. Furthermore she was also raised up by God to speak out against abortion which is one of the greatest sins of the US. Many men in office had the opportunity to speak out against abortion but did not. A baby is made in the image of God and abortion is destroying that one made in the image of God. Just because the US laws says abortion is legal does not make it legal in the sight of God. The US is being judged by God for this sin of murdering innocent babies. I wonder how many people who are pro-choice would have wanted their mother to have aborted them. I would think not many yes to that question. Faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ is the only hope for all people in regards to the judgment of sin that must be dealt with to be able to enter into Heaven. Aborted babies are issued directly into Heaven for they are not able to hear the gospel of the Jesus Christ but are covered by His shed blood on the cross. Because of God's mercy, grace and love for those created in His image, helpless aborted babies are saved into heaven.

Posted by: kenny hott | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey EGonzalez55,
It's Pork Barrel

Posted by: Camel | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama and Senator Biden (and campaign manager David Plouffe, too) are very canny campaigners. Their responses to Sarah Palin and her speech have been as measured and even presidential as Palin is discordant, hostile and sarcastic.

Her sarcasm and McCain's anger will not persuade the American people in sufficient numbers to win the White House.

Posted by: GaryL1 | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Somebody get JakeD off the public library computer, He has said enough of nothing.

Posted by: Ken | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

All these Republicans know how to do is lie about Obama because they are not concerned about fixing this country problems. All McCain croonies had to put their two cent worth of lies on air about Obama and believe that will cause them a win in November. Instead this will cause them to lose. Lies do not prosper. Majority of people want to hear about the ways the candidates are going to solve the country problems. A person will not get anywhere by lying. Obama is doing the right thing by dismissing those lies and instead he is campaigning across the country letting the people know how he is going to fix the problems this country is facing. God bless you Obama.

Posted by: lclon | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Palin likes to shoot wolves from Helicopters.

That pretty much sums it up right there.

Posted by: Mystic55 | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

We cannot accept this backwoods family in the executive branch, no matter what party.

There will be piss stains all over the white house, before and after McCain kicks the bucket. Investors will jump ship, we will probably be invaded because the world will think we are a nation of retards, and all the while Sarah will be licking her kids head on international TV.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Please | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I find it funny that Obama is asking where the Republican agenda and there plan is, when that is the very thing WE have been asking HIM for MONTHS. He has never said how he will do ANYTHING, unlike McCain

Posted by: Bob | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Mr.Obama!

I have had my fill of juvenile mudslinging.
We don't need more of the same.

It's time we take a intelligent stance and take care of Mother Earth. We need to use our resources of renewable energy, more oil and more war is not the answer.

Good Luck, you'll get my vote from Alaska.

Posted by: Griffin | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

LOL they have a new Parody cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious. Its almost like a jib jab/ bugs bunny.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse


The republican strategy is always the same. Attck, deflect, distort. 90% of all they talk about is Democrats. They have no record, no ideas, and no solutions of their own. After what they've done the last 8 years I can see why. Listen to Rush, Hannity, and O'Reilly. They are obsessed with Obama and Democrats. Listen for their solutions and their positions. You won't hear them, because they don't have any.

Posted by: JK | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I don't like a lot of Obama's ideas, but I do believe that not only would the US survive his Presidency, we would be better respected globally and 100%, the real average Americans would be better off. McCain/Palin are totally out of touch with real America. Under their leadership, the elite would get richer and more powerful while the rest of the country struggles, yeah, they'll blame Russia, Iran, China, the 'usual suspects' but their monetary/fiscal policies will be the true cause.

Posted by: ephil | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

It was sad, depressing, watching the Republican convention. America deserves better than this. Ms. Palin's so-called speech was a waste of the time I invested watching it. The only thing it showed is that she can be mean and negative in a sly and underhanded way, which is pretty much what the Republicans are all about these days.

We deserve better than this! The idea that these people have a chance at the presidency scares me to my bones. God have grace on us and give us the courage to elect Barack Obama.

Posted by: Sam from Seattle | September 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if he is just mad about not being the biggest star in the world anymore. LOL hopeFully Sarah Palin will do perfect tonight at the convention. This will be the single most important moment for her, Everyone will be watching. If you want to know more about Palins Background, Her Families Background., and Pics and Videos they have an extensive amount of info at http://www.veeppeek.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I though when you are a U.S. Navy pilot you are not supposed to get shot down!!!! I think McShame has lost what ever marbles he had left. To pick this woman to be VP is totally irresponsible. I thought he would have had the best interest of the country in mind when picking a VP.I guess I would be WRONG.

Posted by: dutch boy | September 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Palin will inspire Americans to the same degree as Obama. She will clearly help McCain with the Republican base, but Barack Obama's appeal transcends the diatribe of the GOP convention.
Monitor the Obama campaign's progress at
http://www.barack-obama-president.com

Posted by: Sheldon | September 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I have not seen the dems this confounded by a republican since Ronald...it's a blast to watch. Palin will straight talk and connect with people...which means they will listen...Obama is done...and Biden was done a long time ago...what a blow hard he is!

Posted by: Tony | September 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm shocked to know that Americans seem to buy the Sarah Palin B.S. I'm British and I cant understand why any right thinking person will want to vote for a ticket that has that woman. Americans wake up and vote right.

Posted by: Elton | September 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like theres alot of far left wingers that are afraid of the truth,justice and the american way.Remember barark obama will be unheard of after november

Posted by: gene repub | September 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Oil reserve is not a strength of this country. use our disadvantage to compete with big oil reserve countries' advantage, I just don't get it! what are republicans thinking?

Posted by: Steven2005A | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

For those who want to question candidates as to whether "global warming is a hoax" is not the correct question. The fact is that the earth is either warming or cooling just like the oceans are either rising or falling, as is always the case. The question to ask is whether it is "Man caused". That is the question. Let's just be clear that we are asking an intelligent question. After all, the weather appears to be cooling and not warming. And so it goes.

Posted by: JD | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I am an undecided voter and as of right now still haven’t made up my mind with that being said I have noticed that during the democratic convention they were all McCain Bashing. Don't dish it if you can't take it. Obama can bash all he wants but if someone turns the table and critizes him it's unfair and the old school politics. Obama is painting himself to be this perfect person and I'm sorry but no one is perfect, and Obama certainly isn't.
It's okay to go after the republicans and criticize and bash them, and drag their name in mud but it's not okay to go after Obama and the democrats! Obama hasn't taken the high road in this campaign he is just viewed differently, his flaws are forgotten and his lack of experience is being pushed to the side and over looked. Everyone has their faults it's about time that we start owning up to them, because only then can we take the high road.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Mr Obama what is your plan? You talk about providing healthcare. How? You either have to increase taxes or decrease spending in other areas. Which areas? the war effort? that leaves our soldiers unfit to fight a war...Mr. Obama please remember your not running against Sarah Palin, your running against John McCain.

Posted by: EGonzalez55 | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

- Want creationism to be taught in school
- Want women to be in jail in case they had abortion because of rape or incest
- No funding for prevention of teen pregnancy
- Want abstainence only education that produces excellent results
- Want your public libraries to be censored from material from govt.
- Want reason for any mistake like Iraq War to be called "God's Will"
- Want more corruption and power abuse
- Want more earmarks and port barell spending for Alaska
- Want your VP to assocaited with Alaska Independence Party

Vote McCain/Palin

Posted by: RB | September 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

How about Obama taking a DNA test...Jake! I do not understand how the left party can attack Ms Palin all week, but when she dishes a little back they cry and try to portray themself as caring compassionate people. Give me a break. I for one have been waiting for a dark horse to emerge, and Palin is my choosen one!
McCain/Palin 2008
Palin/TBD 2012

Posted by: Mike in MD. | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

She said what? She was a pit bull with lip stick?

Ax yawat’aayi x’éit yis.á Republicans!

This is serious she is trying to steal the Pet Owner Votes!

Democrats are courting all Republican and Independent Pet owners
and their family! You heard right! Their Pets are their Family too!

We will not concede Talking Dog fans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCYaw5tGYAs

We will not concede Funny Cat fans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTasT5h0LEg

Gunalchéesh ax x’éit yisa.aaxí

Yéil naax xat sitee

Change we can believe in!

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Raven Yéil's Daughter | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama clear on policy? Not that I have seen. I did like his speech but I liked Palin's too. Politics as usual or unusual? The debates are next! It's about You?

http://www.bop-o-ram.com

Posted by: acarponzo | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Well Iraqvet...you might as well get your break in now, because once McCain is in office he is going to have your butt back into the middle east fighting against Iran and Syria. Then you will be wilst away to Georgia (or some other European nation) to fight against Russia.

Better you than me....

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

he can dismiss it all he wants to kind of like how he dismissed Hillary. And those of you on the left, you can diffuse the real issue of Obama not having any experience what so ever if you want by smearing a 17 year old but realize every time you do there is a girl/woman somewhere in an identical situation and she has an entire family with a base of friends that will make you pay in November. This tact is making people see what true hypocrites you "open-minded" liberals are.

Besides trying to pull the same hatchet job on Sarah that you laid on Hillary, the incessant whining from the left is sooooooo predictable - 2000, 2004 and now in 2008 - makes me think the little hockey mom fit the moose antler right square in your *sses.

Got to absolutely love the analogy between "community organizer" and mayor. It does make you ponder –
1) Exactly how big a budget does a "community organizer" manage?
2) How many people are on the payroll of a "community organizer"?
3) What kind of public works projects does a “community organizer” get involved in?
4) Do you have to punch a time clock or just hang out on the street comer when you're a "community organizer"? Is that what those guys are doing in the low income neighborhoods who hang out at the intersections? Hell, I thought they were all selling crack.

So we have Sarah Palin who has managed a city, a state, took on special interest, fought corruption AND raised a family. Can you please explain what Norealjobama has been doing with his Ivy League education besides cavorting with racists and communists and “organizing communities”?

Joe Biden saying someone delivered a speech without substance is like saying Pete Rose claims there is gambling on baseball. What an imbecile!!! The only speech Biden ever delivered with substance was the one in which he was nailed for plagiarism.

To me, the only question that remains is how many times team Nojobama/Biden soiled their pants during her pasting of all things phony. Start brushing up on your “community organizer” skills Nojobama; it looks like you’ll be looking for work come November. “Work”- sorry, didn’t mean to offend any liberals out there.

Please Sarah, nail their scrawny asses for every woman who has ever been minimized – including Hillary, the latest most public example.

Posted by: For Paige & Emili | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin's child fixing her little's brothers hair was so sweet. What a lovely family.

Posted by: Deb L

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Go ahead - your half brain still counts as one vote. Go for McSlime.

Posted by: Pillai | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

People wanted to have a beer with George Bush, and he was elected on that, twice. Don't count out this sarcastic talking over the back fence neighbor routine of Palin's. For what ever reason it has served the neo-cons in their electoral political win-at-all-costs game for decades. They don't have to talk about anything but appear to be someone you'd like to hang laundry with (never mind their idea of middle class is $5 million plus annually). Let's hope America is ready to spit that beer back in their collective Republican faces.

And have you heard, Palin was against the Troop Surge?

Posted by: Michiganian | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

If McCain wins he has a good change of not living through the next 4 years HE IS 72 YEARS OLD. That means we will be stuck with Palin for a while.

Now come on, What do you think investors especially foreign investor are going to do. Same thing I will be doing moving my money overseas. You will see a stock market crash that will make 29 look like a bump. Investment is about confidence, not if you believe in abortion or not. Where do you think your job is going, all of them.

Posted by: jon | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

You must look carefully at your candidate. Do they play the shell game? Do they divert your attention to pointless crap? Last night, I was made fully aware of what Palin wants and what she stands for. I think it's very presumptuous to think the McCain Camp only cares about name calling. Palin defended herself and was very clear. Face it, like she said... Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth. I want an honest representative and not a show boat bs'r.

Posted by: Palin supporter | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Deb L, you are a typical republican with your lies and fabrication. Michelle Obama never said she hated this country. It is people like you that have turned this election into such a low class affair. I bet you were one of the ones that was forwarding the emails saying that Barack Obama was a muslim--- you are pitiful.

Posted by: Shelly | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

As a mother of 3 children I know they are a handful. I also know how important it is for a new born to have her mother around. Maybe Palin like any good mother should focus on taking care of her children before running for office. Seems to me she is not instilling them good family values because she is too busy with her career. That is why her 17year old got pregnant. The girl has no mother to guide her. Her mother is too busy running for office. Palin is a bad mother.

Posted by: Jane Wood | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin's message served simply to divide the nation again along bright lines. Small towns: Cities, Christian fundamentalists: All others, Right to Lifers:All Others.

The voters have a decision to make.

Noone can tell me that John McCain vetted Plain properly.

Posted by: Gideon Lawyer | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I'd like totally vote for Sarah to be like Vice President of the Junior Class at Valley High School. She's like take on the principal and get him fired for taking sodas from the vending machine and all, and she'd like get us an extra free period a day. She'd rock.

Of course, I'm in high school anymore, and that speech last night, despite what the talking heads have said, sounded a lot to me like what a snarky MEAN GIRL would say in a bid to get elected to student council. There are serious issues that we are facing at this juncture, and I'd like to hear from serious people. Obama/Biden/Michelle/Hillary seem to be the only people on television recently who understand that. McCain didn't even sound coherent in that interview with ABC, and there was no substance whatsoever to the speech by the Governor of Alaska. Am I supposed to care that her husband is a champion snowmobiler? Or that they met in high school? She's a political midget with a nasty mouth and a bouffant hairdo who did not speak to me about health care coverage for my son or increased jobs or tax breaks that would help me since I don't make $5 million a year.

Posted by: KC | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

And you are in idiot JakeD!

Posted by: becca, CO | September 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama has Plenty Of Ammo to attack Her with. I am sure Obama will be cranking out the ads soon enough. Then Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com They have alot of info/ammo that will probably be used against Palin.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama has Plenty Of Ammo to attack Her with. I am sure Obama will be cranking out the ads soon enough. Then Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com They have alot of info/ammo that will probably be used against Palin.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Have you noticed they played the "fear" card and called it "hope."

Posted by: Gordon Illan | September 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin called Hillary a "whiner".


Palin says, "When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate (Hillary) with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or, you know, maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, man, that doesn’t do us any good. Women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country. I don’t think it’s, it bodes well for her -- a statement like that."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/did-palin-call.html

Posted by: LeeAnn Waters | September 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, come back when you get your GED.

Posted by: Casey | September 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Giulliani’s address: irony and errors.
Did you know that Sarah Palin sought 10-fold as much money in earmarks (which McCain decries) per population under her tenure as mayor and governor than the rest of the nation? One of those earmarks was for an emergency response system in her town of 7,000 (which her own people said was redundant), while prior to 9/11 Giulliani failed to fund, while mayor of New York City, a communications system to allow his police and firemen to communicate with each other during an emergency. In fact one of the reasons his presidential campaign ended was that a fire chief was following him around the country enraged that valiant lives were lost due the former mayor’s failure to appropriate the necessary funds. Did you know that Palin originally supported the “bridge to nowhere”, while she now claims she said “no thanks” to the federal government (she did keep the money).
Giulliani criticized Biden, who handled personal tragedy with grace while praising Palin who brought tragedy upon herself through ideological extremism that led her at 44 to not use contraception and to teach her teenage daughter abstention instead of contraception.
Giulliani, of the party of family values, criticized Biden who makes a 90 minute train ride home each night to be with his wife and family, while Giulliani has never been able to make any of his several relationships last.
Giulliani said the democrats would raise taxes, when they will lower taxes on 95% of taxpayers (could that be because Giulliani and his friends are in that top 5% who will pay more?). And did you know that income disparity is at its highest since 1928 and that for every 3-year period since 1981, the top 1% of earners gained $100 billion while the bottom 80% lost 100 billion? That’s about $600 less per year for average wage-earners, the majority of the almost $1000 per year they have lost during the Bush years.
Giulliani criticized the democratic ticket for lacking “executive experience”, while McCain’s only such experience was leading a fighter squadron (someone in such a position is not responsible for all of the decisions required for a fighter squadron to do its work). His own and McCain’s campaigns were in disarray and mismanaged while Obama built the most complex and successful campaign operation in political history. Now that’s a successful executive in action!

Posted by: Dave Meldrum | September 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin terrifies me. If elected, and when McCain dies, she would be president. A small town mayor from Alaska would be easy pickings for the neo-Con decision makers behind the scenes. If elected, we WILL find ourselves in ANOTHER, MUCH LARGER, WAR. Mark my words, if McCain is elected, he will be dead within months.

Posted by: Justin | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Here is some seriousness amongst all this laughable rhetoric.

We cannot, cannot have a VP with a retarded kid on international television side by side with a pregnant teenager and her redneck "fiance". We cannot.

Wake up America!

Do you want us to get invaded? The whole world will think we are breeding retarded ignorant theocrats.

Come on!

Posted by: for real | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

You're a sick dude. As long as there are extremists like you on both sides of the fence, our best and brightest will shun the chance to become the leader of the greatest country in the history of this world. Get a clue or grab a plane to Canada or France.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I love the Caliber of those commenting.

"Why won't Sarah Palin take a DNA test for Trig? What is she hiding? How can a liar like her become VP?"

For DNA testing it's hard to tell especially if its the same family. And they dont need to appease paparazzi frenzied conspiracy theorists like you.

or

my mom's favorite pitch: "Hey fool, You Do Not Throw stones in a Glass house".

Does she call you fool often?!

Sorry but Palin has done more for the USA in 2 years concerning jobs, taxes, and energy than Obama and Biden (and even Mccain) put together.

Obama has only had 2 (co-authored) ammendments to already written bills - in 3 years that's his legacy.

You can compare - but 1 is actually running for president and done far less. If you are a democrat and pride youself on being more intelligent, then look at the facts.

Yes she is a bible thumper but that wont hurt anyone. Electing Obama will.

Posted by: Brian | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

No plan from the GOP? There was none form the Dems.. Except Obamas Plan to Cure every ill in the world without raising your taxes. And I quote, "I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease."


He is going to wipe out disease and poverty.. not too shabby

You Kool-Aid drinkers believe that garbage?

Obama = Unqualified

Posted by: iraqi vet | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

JakeD!....

Obama ahead in recent Iowa and Minnesota polling by 10 to 15pts!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I have only heard Statesman-like comments from both Obama and Joe Biden. The typical dishonest and immature propaganda served by Sarah Palin and the rest of the Republicans last night did nothing to sway this swing-voter. The only thing they didn't do was have an altar call. I'm not buying. They will have to do better than that to get my vote away from Obama.

Posted by: PDelanty | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if any DFL ostriches, including Barack Obama, actually took their heads out of the sand and listened to the speeches given by Mr. Lieberman and Ms. Palin... I would say there were many specifics given, a lot of new and unconventional ideas offered, and not a lot of partisan "business as usual." Last night made me proud to be an American.

Posted by: Heidi K | September 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Corella McPalin

Posted by: bob | September 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Why won't Sarah Palin take a DNA test for Trig? What is she hiding? How can a liar like her become VP?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM
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JakeD You are all over the place...Come on! You are giving me a case of the Guzzuckta-gazoink

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Deb L, you fit the profile of a typical Republican, lies and fabrications. Michelle Obama never said she hated america. It is people like you that make this election process so low class because you don't stick with the issues and you make up pathetic lies. I bet you were one of the ones forwarding the garbage email about Barack Obama being a muslim too--Pitiful.

Posted by: Shelly | September 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Palin did a good job last night in defending herself as a canidate, however she needs to strengthen her stance on issues that do concern the vast majority of this country. Time will tell if her political knowledge, and policy making is flawed. You can compare it to dating someone who is atractive, they get your attention, but as soon as they open their mouth they become very questionable. Give it time, give it time; the true substance of an individual will be shown over time.

Posted by: Berkeley CA | September 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain will have a decent speech tonight, probably much better than his past ones. He better come with some substance or he will be called out by Obama's campaign.

Republicans want to hear Obama bashing, but Americans want to hear McCain's plan for the fixing the economy, getting out of Iraq, on Health care, and on energy fixes (short-term and long-term).

Palin will drag McCain down when he is forced to defend her policies and views, especially her cultural views.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't JakeD like hurricanes up his ass?

Posted by: realist | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The contrast between both Democrats and Republicans is clear. The questions we ask of our candidates are important like their judgment – Americans have a right to take a close look at McCain's choice of VP who is a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

I can see why people are not inspired by McCain's choice this was McCain running to the right, which left out the rest of America.

What doesn't inspire us is the Republicans are going after the media on this. We are talking about the mainstream media who are asking the questions that are on our minds about the decision making process of McCain.

Posted by: Concerned Voter | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if he is just mad about not being the biggest star in the world anymore. LOL hopeFully Sarah Palin will do perfect tonight at the convention. This will be the single most important moment for her, Everyone will be watching. If you want to know more about Palins Background, Her Families Background., and Pics and Videos they have an extensive amount of info at http://www.veeppeek.com

Posted by: pastor123 | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speach was fun to watch. Obama's reactions to events - including he reaction to the Georgia issue - was intelligent and strategic. When Palin or McCain start providing real economic or international insight, I will start listening - honest!

Posted by: Undecided? | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

For the most part Republicans are
white trash, redneck, uneducated and just plain ol' dumb

OR

They're arrogant, corrupt, whiny and conservative (in name only).

Just look at the mess this country is in - after eight years of the dumbest president in the history of this country......

Do we want 4 more years of this mess?

Posted by: JNM | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Watching people call in on c-span, they are giving the same kind of reactions. Sarah's speech had no substance it was just attacks. McCain even lost an independent supporter of his. even the bush administration thinks she has no experience...
Bush Aides Actually Tutoring Sarah Palin
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/bush-aides-actually-tutoring-sarah-palin/

Posted by: terry | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

You can have him up there, eh


Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

When you push past the emotion and rhetoric of both conventions, the only time we will have any real change in our government is when citizens get angry enough to actually engage in a third party and hold both parties accountable. Until then, the verbal zingers and jabs mean nothing at the end of the day regardless of whatever party you are for.

Posted by: donrjames | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you folks. The scary thing is that many of us discounted these people but they still got elected. So what does that tell you about the American people.

Posted by: John Falkin | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey America, listen!

Obama is a zero. Palin has more executive experience than him and Biden. She'd beat the crap out of MCain in a fist fight. She shoud be at the top of the ticket! Why won't the GOP just throw him out, pretend he kicked the bu ket or something and hide hi away?

She'd win this election just like W! They should!

Trig for VP!

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Th RNC should scare the XXX out of most Americans. After all of this talk about "working across party lines" and "brining reform to Washington", what the RNC shows is a party of rabid ultra-conservatives intent on pushing the "culture-war" to the next level and not just making the next 4 years look like that last 8 years, but actually making the next 4 years make the last 8 years look like a time of peace and harmony. This RNC shows that the Republicans haven't changed a bit, if anything they have gotten worse, and you can see the blood and lust in their eyes and their despise for everyone and everything that doesn't fit their backwards agenda. That display last night was truly terrifying.

Posted by: Jeff | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

As a mother of three and a18 year old child with cerebral palsy and a Hillary supporter I wonder if palin would move me to vote for the republican party?
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As a mother of three and two adopted special-needs children and a former Hillary supporter I say HELL YES. Palin is what this country needs!

Posted by: Jaycee | September 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

(sorry if that's too "harsh" for you ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:35 PM

Oh, she IS serious, Senator. YOU are the problem. The United States would not survive an Obama Presidency.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM
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Don't take it too hard JakeD..

I wonder if her church believes in polygamy...or maybe...a little noogie on the side.

Posted by: :^P | September 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

When you push past the emotion and rhetoric of both conventions, the only time we will have any real change in our government is when citizens get angry enough to actually engage in a third party and hold both parties accountable. Until then, the verbal zingers and jabs mean nothing at the end of the day regardless of whatever party you are for.

Posted by: donrjames | September 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin tried to get books banned at her local library when she was mayor... even going so far as to try to fire the librarian. She's in favor of teacher-directed prayer in our schools (which is illegal), and teaching Creationism in science class. These things alone should be enough to make a sane person RUN away from voting for McCain-Palin. Freedom is on the march in the wrong direction.

Posted by: pat | September 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I used to vote trait Republican. However, they are no longer the party for fisical control, they plan to go after the United States real enemies, and they plan to tax thouse who make more money in a year that I will see in my lifetime?

Well I guess I am a Democrat now.

Posted by: RonJ | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

OK Obama fans. What is Obamas agenda? I've reviewed his website. Healthcare for all? Do you read? It doesn't say that.

Obama has no experience at all in leading anything. Someone please show me where he does. It's all a magic game with Obama.

His wife hates America and she may be the first lady. Lady where?

Palin's child fixing her little's brothers hair was so sweet. What a lovely family.

Posted by: Deb L | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama should've picked Hillary. Now it's payback time.

Posted by: Dmitriy | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

of course he dismissed her comments...they were true and he has no way to answer them AND get elected at the same time.

what is Obama's plan?? and what has he done other than show up to vote that qualifies him to be the big man??

i do have to say, though, that i'm still undecided. either way (Obama or McCain), we're guaranteed at least a little bit of change.

McCain will do what his conscience tells him and Obama will do what his party tells him.

Posted by: craziness | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Amazing responses, I am so Proud of you Barack!! You were awesome and so dignified in your responses. I loved the 'i've been called worse on the basketball floor'

Posted by: rm1813 | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Great comments everyone (except JakeD; you're a fool). You give me hope that my country will not be lost to these hypocritical, sadistic morons. Please, please keep this up, stay informed and passionate, and get our man in the White Hosue this fall.

Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Why is the father's name absent from Trig's birth certificate?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

While listening to her yesterday, my mind kept on reciting my mom's favorite pitch: "Hey fool, You Do Not Throw stones in a Glass house". Sarah Palin is a nut, a crazy gun totting christain nut, period!!! I she gets in the white house, I am moving far away to Alaska!!!

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how you could have watched last weeks speeches and see much difference from last night - Biden's speech especially. They both fill the same attack dog role. Obama can rail the "old politics" as much as he wants while his surrogates wallow in the same practice he pretends to deplore.

Posted by: Phil | September 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Why won't Sarah Palin take a DNA test for Trig? What is she hiding? How can a liar like her become VP?

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

After eight miserable years, this is the point in election cycles where the bums get thrown out. Since the Repubs are the bums, all they can do is deflect, lie and point the finger. They can't run on their record of ineptitude and corruption.

Posted by: Ben | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Charlette | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Middle class working two jobs,,,Go McCain,,,

Posted by: John | September 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

As a mother of three and a18 year old child with cerebral palsy and a Hillary supporter I wonder if palin would move me to vote for the republican party? I Reject Gov. Palin on ever level this women needs sicko therapy and fast!!
I have made up my mind Obama and JO are the only candidates that I can trust with my country!

Posted by: Gov. Palin on ever level this women needs sicko therapy and fast!! | September 4, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

RCP Average 08/29 - 09/03 -- 48.8 42.8 Obama +6.0
Gallup Tracking 09/01 - 09/03 2771 RV 49 42 Obama +7
Rasmussen Tracking 09/01 - 09/03 3000 LV 50 45 Obama +5
Hotline/FD 08/29 - 08/31 805 RV 48 39 Obama +9
CNN 08/29 - 08/31 927 RV 49 48 Obama +1
CBS News 08/29 - 08/31 781 RV 48 40 Obama +8


LOL - what happened to the 16pt jump the GOP promised from the GOP convention coverage? I guess they ment 16pt fall.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyone seen Bin Laden lately?

Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the kid spitting in her hands and slicking down the baby's hair...oh my goodness...what manners???!!! Such a charming trailer off spring....imagine them in the white house or doing a press conference....they might spit out tabacco? lOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Why did the Real Clear Politics poll of polls disappear once Obama takes a 6% lead? I guess we will never know.

Posted by: WTF | September 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin's rapid elevation from small town mayor to candidate for national office to revered deity"

Isn't it hilarious? They've been mocking us saying that Obama is our "messiah" for months, but obviously a messiah figure is exactly what the GOP base has been wanting.

"We don't know a thing about her, but she looks the part, and I hear she's religious!"

"Good enough for me!"

Hypocrites.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like one ticket is taking the high road, while the other wallows in sophomoric sarcasm and mockery.

Has anyone heard word one about the economy or health care during this convention? I haven't.

Apparently all you need to be President is a few good zingers instead of actual ideas. Oh, and it helps to pray really loud at the "right" church every week....

Posted by: BB | September 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

That's right, Barack. Stick to the issues. Stay on the high road. Keep explaining what you will do as president.

Meanwhile, the seaman and his parrot are going to share a few more personal barbs and spew some Bushisms, while calling themselves reformers.

Sounds about right to me.

Posted by: Susan | September 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I love that Obama! What's their agenda? What's their plan? They have had every loosing primary candidate on for the past three nights along with this c$nt from Alaska and not one of them arseholes offered the American people any solutions! All they did was talk b.s. they seem extremely angry and nasty...very divisive and controlling and the women seem like stepford wives. lol....they stood up when the men gave them the cue, move to the front of the building when giving the cue, laughed when giving the cue, boy that was mind boggling! But not one time, did anyone of them address the economic and health care problems that we are faced with today. They couldn't never repair our poor image around the world!! Shame on them, poor b$stards last night, shame of them! ROFLMAO!!!

Posted by: No Solutions, just divisive rhetoric! | September 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's rapid elevation from small town mayor to candidate for national office to revered deity, has got me asking if conservatives aren't taking a bit too much of the savior in mass (or smoking crack). The hyperbole exceeds satire...

http://nahnopenotquite.com/

Posted by: ES | September 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin basically mocked every hard working American that was not elected to his/her position.
So if I am a junior nurse doing my best for my patients, I DO NOT count as someone doing something tangible when compared to my manager?

So if I am a junior police officer doing my best for my community, I DO NOT count as someone doing something tangible when compared to my captain?

So if I am a community organizer doing my best for my community, I DO NOT count as someone doing something tangible when compared to my mayor?

I take it that all of us "low lifes" just need to quit now because we do not have clearly defined responsibilities?

This woman is crazy, crazier than a nut munching squirrel darting between traffic on the highway. Is this what a gun totting Christian looks like?


Posted by: Mick Jogger | September 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing to see who's complaining today.
Look at all the Republican operatives leading the croccodile tears of pain for Palin. I love it when they issue a command that "this will stop now" and just expect the press to kow tow. Blood in the water is an apt phrase, these are literally the same guys who brought you such classics as the Clinton impeachment, swiftboat veterans for "truth", vince foster, Gore invented the internet, Kerry is a liar, hillary is a lesbian, slimed veteran senators, democrats as traitors etc etc.

And now the thug Wingnuts are all crying because they have finally been shown to have no clothes, in public. The press will not and should not stop on command, there is too much profit and humor in it. Palin is a creationist cheerleader who has no business whatsoever being on a Presidential ticket.

Posted by: Jeff Y | September 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Palin is scary. All style, no substance. Wait until she gives an interview and makes her first of many off-color gaffes. I'm surprised that the GOP has fallen so hard for this unknown in these first few days hook, line, and sinker. Give it time. It's only s matter of days or weeks until her machismo from talking straight off a telepromter turns into stutters, pauses, and awkward moments of silence. That is if the GOP ever allows her to participate in an interview!!!

Posted by: Beltway Ryan, IN | September 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Three questions to ask Sarah Palin:

1. Do you think global warming is a hoax?

2. Do you believe the earth is only 7,000 years old and children should be taught that in schools?

3. Do you believe abstinence only education can curb teenage pregnancies?

CHECK AND MATE.

Posted by: playa | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Cindy's suit was reported to be around 250,000. Her outfit worn on Monday was estimated at $300,000. They certainly can relate to us small town poor folks who are trying desperately to hold on to our jobs, house, health insurance, and find a way to send our kids to college. They believe that anyone making 5 million or under is middle class, anyone that have 9 + houses are middle class, they have 9+ mansions in three different time zones within the United States. MEanwhile, Barak was raised by a single white mom on welfare, raising a family, while going to school at night. Who at the time of her illness which eventually killed her had to argue on the phone with the big time health insurers about covering her with health care coverage. While McCain is lobbying for those very same corporations. But the McCain/Pallin want us dumb Americans to believe that they can relate to us poor folks and that Obama is an elitist! Someone need to stop them b$stards in their tracks with that b.s.! McCain is an old dying fraud and Pallin is a dumb itchbay from the local trailer park down the way! Ghetto fabulous!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

That's right! Dismiss that $ho! Her divisive rhetoric was insignificant and didn't hold any weight. Every news organization today has challenged each of her talking points and have provided the American people with the truth outlining her lies. McGrump/Pallin trailer are more of the same! We don't want them! They are insignificant!!

Posted by: Insignificant | September 4, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SELECTION AND THE DIMINUTION OF DEMOCRACY:
IS A SILENT COUP HAPPENING IN THE U.S.A?


Someone below asked the question, why did the GOP pick Sarah Palin?

• Could the Palin Phenomenon be a symptom of a seismic power grab that is transforming our government?

• Is the Palin selection part of a larger plan to seize control of the Executive Branch and make it beholden to another set of decision-makers -- unelected, entrenched, and in charge of the forces of power and control?

• Could this plan dovetail with reports from a Dutch newspaper this past week that the U.S. is planning to strike Iran's nuclear facilities?

• Could the fruition of the "Help America Vote Act," which led to the widespread use of electronic voting machines, the vast majority of which leave no voter-verified paper trail, also be part of this mosaic?

• Could John McCain's vacillations on the vice president issue and his eventual acquiescence to those who recommended Palin be part of a skillful campaign to influence and oversee his decision-making?

• Are we in the midst of a silent coup that is resulting in the loss of personal freedom via the extra-legal targeting of American citizens in an unconstitutional bypass of the judicial system, a denial of due process under the law?

• And is this power grab resulting in the emasculation of both Congress and the Judiciary, rendering those institutions little more than symbolic of power, when in fact power has been quietly usurped by unelected officials of entrenched institutions of power and control?

• Is anyone -- in the media, in Congress, in think tanks, in academia -- pondering these questions?

• If not, can we afford not to be asking these questions?

Posted by: Thomas Paine | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

You Americans don't know how lucky you are to have a wonderful leader in Obama. if you don't elect him down there, we'll take him up here.

Palin is a disaster!!!!

Posted by: Mart from Toronto | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Plan? Republicans don't need no stinkin' plan! McCain thinks the economy is doing great. All Republicans have to do is try to save America from those evil Demoncrats. It's the same old one trick pony and it's worked every time. Issues? Issues are for sissies, Facts? Facts are for policy wonks. Ideas? Ideas are for elitist smartypants intellectuals.

No, what Republicans have is fear and divisiveness. What happened when Republicans finally got their hand on the White House, Senate and House?? They got us in a phony war, blew a monster budget surplus, destroyed our standing in the world, filled the government with incompetent right-wing religious whackos and siphoned off billions to their military contractor friends and oil execs.

Want more, vote McCain/Palin. Keeping up the good Republican work of the last two terms.

No More Years!!

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 4, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

(sorry if that's too "harsh" for you ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, she IS serious, Senator. YOU are the problem. The United States would not survive an Obama Presidency.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

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