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Virginia Adds 49K New Voters in August

By Alec MacGillis
With time running out on its push to register thousands of new voters in Virginia, the Obama campaign is picking up the pace. State election officials told the campaign Friday that 49,000 new voters signed up in August, a sharp increase from the 36,500 who signed up in July and the 28,000 who registered in June.

The campaign had predicted that its August numbers could lag given the difficulty of reaching residents during vacation season. But the August gain puts the Obama campaign very much on track toward its goal of signing up 150,000 new voters by the early October voter registration deadline, on top of the 142,000 new voters who registered during primary season.

There is no way of knowing how many of the newly registered will vote for Obama, especially since Virginia does not record voters by party affiliation. But the campaign is encouraged by the demographic profile of the new voters -- about 40 percent of those who registered in August are aged 25 or under.

The campaign predicts that if it can add 150,000 new registrations before early October, it will net about 60,000 votes out of that in November, assuming that 80 percent of the new voters are for Obama and that they turn out at a rate of 75 percent. Those votes could add up to about 1.75 percent of the anticipated state vote -- not enough to make up for the eight-point edge George Bush had in 2004, but possibly enough to tip the state Obama's way if he can also make gains with existing voters.

Nationally, more than 2 million Democrats have been added to the rolls in the 28 states that register voters according to party affiliation, according to the Associated Press. Republicans have lost nearly 344,000 thousand voters in the same states during the same period.

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 6, 2008; 3:50 PM ET
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If the numbers hold up, Obama should have a genuine shot in November. If the numbers don't hold up, he still has a shot in November. The pollsters are forgetting the ace in the hole for Obama, most of the poll numbers are based on landlines, not cellphones and text messaging that younger voters prefer over traditional phones. It is laughable to think that McCain/Palin or vice-versa can pull of their very public slight of hand trickery to dupe the public into believing that they are the agents of change. They are simply appropriating the Obama message that has resonated with voters and are subliminally sending racist all-calls to rally their base.

Posted by: Darrell Hitchens | September 8, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Boy I can see the young one's here still are not learning a dam thing , in or out of school. You need to turn that rap crap down because it seems your not listening either. You think Obama is going to help you (lol) you got another thing coming. He's going to raise your taxes so he can give it to the UN to give out to poor countries that need it more than he thinks you do. Check he's voting record , he hasn't voted on anything , accept to vote that he was present. What will he do when he as to make a decision for the country. This really makes me scared. He doesn't have a backbone .Tell me what has he done for this country since he's been a senator, please would someone tell me. He's wife talks about whitey all the time with her radical cleric friends. Boy and these two are going to bring the country together, don't make me puke. He's a joke ,and so is his wife, check out the hosp. that she worked for , someone left it slip that they were turning down poor people that couldn't pay to other hosp. so they could show her hosp. she was running so great, they weren't running in the red. These to need to go back to their radical church and the community needs to board it up with them in it. Another thing Palin didn't have an affair with another man. It was a man working in her government, didn't disclose to her that he was involved with a married woman so when it came down to her office of what was going on, she dismissed him for not informing her (he lied to her). He later married that same woman, so get your facts correct. Don't go saying McCain too , because you need to do your homework, when he returned home to his wife, they were like two strangers (I wonder why) he did try to make the marriage work but it wasn't . He moved out of the bedroon to downstairs and later he just moved out .He's wife said it wasn't as if he didn't try but he did change, and his ex-wife is also supporting McCain and Paline in the campange. That doesn't sound like the a wife being thrown to the side for a younger/richer wife to me like the democrates would have you believe. But the democrates stand by a guy Bill Clinton when he is in the oval office getting a BJ by a girl young enough to be his daughter and there's nothing wrong with that, and they make a big thing out of a 17 yr. old getting pregnant. Damn this is happening all over the USA. This is why I will never ever vote for a Democrate in my life.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I will be voting for Obama/Biden because I do not belive we should reward a party for 8 years of failure. Also, I am scared to death of McCain's temper and warmongering as well as Palin's faith and lack of compassion. We don't need a theocracy in the White House. Palin thinks God will answer her prayer for a new gas pipeline and that Alaska will be a "refuge state" in the coming end of the world. We have already had 8 years of two whackos, we don't need anymore!

Posted by: Terry B. | September 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

If you do not want an anti-American in the White House then you better look twice at Sarah Palin's husband, who is part of a party trying to allow Alaska to secede (that means become separate) from the United States. And Sarah Palin has just recently given a speech wishing good luck to this group. Is that the kind of person who you would trust to "put America first," or to pose the question another way, how would it look to you if Michelle Obama was involved in a group trying to cut itself free of the United States? Really, try to hold yourself to the truth when you consider this.

Posted by: Kate4Dean | September 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DEM POSITIONS THIS YREA!@! THE PELOSI REID TEAM DIN'T DO TOO DMN MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE! AND OBAMA IS THE SAME, HE IS SPITTING OUT MONEY AMOUNTS AND DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE HOW TO BALANCE OUR ECONOMY!@! YOU CAN'T GIVE 95% OF PEOPLE A TAX BREAK AND EXPECT THE OTHER 5% TO BRING IN ENOUGH MONEY FOR REVENUE!IS OBAMA GOING TO HAVE THE TREASURY RUN OFF SOME NEW DOLLARS FOR HIM? THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, NOW HE IS TALKING ABOUT INFASTRUCTURE, HELPING WITH THAT SO THERE IS NEW JOBS, WELL I THOUGHT MUST INFASTRUCTURE IS PAID BY THE GAS TAX AND THE STATES PAY MOST OF THIERS BY TAXING ITS PEOPLE! THEN HE IS GOING TO GIVE COLLEGE KIDS MONEY SO THEY CAN PAY US BACK BY DOING "COMMUNITY SERVICE" IN THIS DAY AND AGE, THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY KIDS THAT WILL DO THAT! I WILL GIVE MY VOTE TO MCCAIN/PALIN 08 AND IF HILLARY RUNS IN 2012 I DON'T THINK I WILL VOTE FOR HER ANYMORE, SHE IS REALLY CHANGING, FREINDS OF HILLARY, MAKE YOUR CHOICE, MCCAIN OR OBAMA

Posted by: jabber | September 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I am young too but proudly voting our Mavrick McCain this time. I do not want Hussein Obama who just admited his true faith on abc "My muslim faith" Obama words.

I do not want any anti-american in white house.

I do not want anyone who spent 20 years with radical pastor Wright and friends with criminals like rezko, kilpatrick in the white house.

God Bless america.

Posted by: Richard | September 8, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain is no American Hero!!! He is the product of slave masters. He was a war clown...he snitched on other Anmericans to save his own arse...he was broken and more captives have given statements against the "Maverick" claim. They said that the plane was not shot down. You are mixing that event up with another event. He couldn't fly the plane and this was like the 5th plane accident. Why on earth they let this moron continue to fly is beyond me! LMAO But the idiot landed in the ocean, banged up from his non flying arse and the Enemy got his arse. He wanted to play war hero...But the majority of Americans weren't buying that b.s. that's why the rethugs pulled out the redneck ~ George Bush with Lipstick~ is no pitbull...Click on the link below formt he Huffingtonpost and read the article.....Sarah Pallin is another George Bush with lipstick! She is 100% on all of his policies!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/07/sarah-palin-george-bush-i_n_124654.html

Posted by: Sarah Pallin is George Bush with Lipstick~not pitbull! | September 8, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

As a yound 29 year old voter, I am proud to support Obama as an enormous amount of my peers! We are sick of the generation that has elected the idiots into office for the past 8 years! YOu old fa$rts has done nothing but assisted the Bush Administration and the Neocons to send this country bankrupt, less attractive to other countries, made us look weak and is sending the country straight to H#ll!! You voted with your judgemental, bias, uneducated minds and did not vote for the specific policies and issues! You have done a great diservice to your children and your grandchildren because now we will be paying for the rest of our lives for all of the f$ucking up that you've done! So pat your dumb arse on the back! How dare you gripe about the young voters! We are going to do something that you old goats should have had enough b$alls to do! We are going to fight hard and long to make sure this country elect Obama/Biden. You can bring in all of the rednecks that you like....The young generation isn't feeding into it! Not even Pallin's knocked up daughter or her redneck son in law!@ LMAO

Posted by: Proud Young Voter for Obama/Biden 08 | September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

As a yound 29 year old voter, I am proud to support Obama as an enormous amount of my peers! We are sick of the generation that has elected the idiots into office for the past 8 years! YOu old fa$rts has done nothing but assisted the Bush Administration and the Neocons to send this country bankrupt, less attractive to other countries, made us look weak and is sending the country straight to H#ll!! You voted with your judgemental, bias, uneducated minds and did not vote for the specific policies and issues! You have done a great diservice to your children and your grandchildren because now we will be paying for the rest of our lives for all of the f$ucking up that you've done! So pat your dumb arse on the back! How dare you gripe about the young voters! We are going to do something that you old goats should have had enough b$alls to do! We are going to fight hard and long to make sure this country elect Obama/Biden. You can bring in all of the rednecks that you like....The young generation isn't feeding into it! Not even Pallin's knocked up daughter or her redneck son in law!@ LMAO

Posted by: Proud Young Voter for Obama/Biden 08 | September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

As a yound 29 year old voter, I am proud to support Obama as an enormous amount of my peers! We are sick of the generation that has elected the idiots into office for the past 8 years! YOu old fa$rts has done nothing but assisted the Bush Administration and the Neocons to send this country bankrupt, less attractive to other countries, made us look weak and is sending the country straight to H#ll!! You voted with your judgemental, bias, uneducated minds and did not vote for the specific policies and issues! You have done a great diservice to your children and your grandchildren because now we will be paying for the rest of our lives for all of the f$ucking up that you've done! So pat your dumb arse on the back! How dare you gripe about the young voters! We are going to do something that you old goats should have had enough b$alls to do! We are going to fight hard and long to make sure this country elect Obama/Biden. You can bring in all of the rednecks that you like....The young generation isn't feeding into it! Not even Pallin's knocked up daughter or her redneck son in law!@ LMAO

Posted by: Proud Young Voter for Obama/Biden 08 | September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

As a yound 29 year old voter, I am proud to support Obama as an enormous amount of my peers! We are sick of the generation that has elected the idiots into office for the past 8 years! YOu old fa$rts has done nothing but assisted the Bush Administration and the Neocons to send this country bankrupt, less attractive to other countries, made us look weak and is sending the country straight to H#ll!! You voted with your judgemental, bias, uneducated minds and did not vote for the specific policies and issues! You have done a great diservice to your children and your grandchildren because now we will be paying for the rest of our lives for all of the f$ucking up that you've done! So pat your dumb arse on the back! How dare you gripe about the young voters! We are going to do something that you old goats should have had enough b$alls to do! We are going to fight hard and long to make sure this country elect Obama/Biden. You can bring in all of the rednecks that you like....The young generation isn't feeding into it! Not even Pallin's knocked up daughter or her redneck son in law!@ LMAO

Posted by: Proud Young Voter for Obama/Biden 08 | September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Young people are going to throw this election to Obama, most people under the age of 30 do not have land lines and that is how most of the polling data is collected.

Posted by: Greg | September 8, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

after observing the composition of mcain's supporters, i now understand why he is not very concerned about the high employment rates, given that those whose support he is counting on are his age mates and even older ones who won't be needing jobs anymore.

Posted by: Masolo - Kenya | September 8, 2008 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Ok Bob, Thanks for helping me understand the situation. I am going to find out where is the nearest local office of McCain camp and will start working this Monday. Lets get this Mavrick in the white house and turn the country around and keep all our grand children safe from these radical fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: torrito | September 6, 2008 10:16 PM

Now that you want keep all your grand chidren safe what happened to your children. i fear old age if i will have to be as senile and you are.

Posted by: Masolo - Kenya | September 8, 2008 5:42 AM | Report abuse

Tritto, i think you are confused. no wonder you are saying good night in the morning.

Posted by: Masolo - Kenya | September 8, 2008 5:29 AM | Report abuse

I feel so boring, commenting upon the Trail's story instead of the gossip in the Enquirer....

Great news about the newly registered. Maybe you should do one about the mass mailing of "do not forward" letters to voters in Ohio that just went out, since those are the usual first step in GOP voter caging operations of the type used to disenfranchise college students and voters likely to be Democrats based upon demographics. That way, people in Ohio will know to look out for those letters and send them back, so they will not be stripped of their right to cast a vote as has happened in so many recent elections.

There is something so unAmerican about a party that feels that elections are about how many people you can keep from exercising their lawful right to vote (without getting caught). And they only end up making people more and more angry and more and more determined to make their vote count.

Posted by: McCamyTaylor | September 8, 2008 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Palin had an affair that resulted in the man getting divorced. I guess his wife wasn't as forgiving as Palins husband. In about a week you are going to hear about Palins abortion before she was married. Probably the reason she is so against abortion now. Women who have had an abortion often carry guilt for many years.
"Enquiring minds want to know."


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Some mother!

Naturally horny northern girl, barely 17, gets knocked up by her high school boyfriend after MacDo's & latest Batman movie.

Mother Palin, who doesn't believe in birth-control or sex education for children Made-in-the-USA, does however religiously believe in date-rape-fast marriages, again, for all US children.

No wonder the divorce rate is +50% in the US.

Who wants to spend the rest of their (only) life with their very first high school crush? At 27 women & men are definitely not the same horny teenagers they were at the awfully ripe age of 17 - some basis for the long trail of monogamous marriage.

Makes the challenge of marriage look totally ridiculous, but cute ... and I guess that's what counts for the ever-smiling ex-mayor of Wasilla, the "cute" in pregnancy & marriage.

Posted by: hadeze | September 7, 2008 4:36 PM

Posted by: relative of Enquirer photographer | September 8, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Don't waste you time wit that stuff. If you like polls and polling you have to read
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com
It is don't right and very interesting reading.


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Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%McCain enjoying increase in support following conventionUSA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.


Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 6:09 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather believe these numbers than the Gallup poll.

Posted by: Patrick | September 7, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Good bye you evil Republicans, THE END OF YOUR RULE IS NEARING!

Posted by: Don | September 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

That's what I like to see a bottoms-up approach to politics. The McCain campaign was "politically brilliant" in naming Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate. This action will win over the conservative Republican base as well give McCain the general election win in Alaska, but McCain will lose the general election is a landslide.

Two potential big spoilers for the McCain/Palin ticket are a health scare for McCain (anything at this point) and several major gaffes by Palin. If any of these events happens prior to Nov. 4th, the McCain/Palin ticket polling numbers will drop faster than "rock in water".

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

To the Republican Troll using the name "Jinny":

No press report has Boy Scouts involved in the flag story. The Republicans claim "a vendor" found the flags. Here's what the Democrats say:

“American flags were proudly waved by the 75,000 people who joined Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention. John McCain should applaud that, but instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism. On the same day he agrees to join Barack Obama at Ground Zero on September 11, John McCain attacks the patriotism of Obama supporters who so proudly waved the American flag at our historic event in Denver just days ago.”
– Democratic National Committee Spokeswoman Karen Finney

“Stories circulating about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false. We distributed more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission. It’s disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe how they were being used. We have the utmost respect for the American flag, and it’s sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt.”
– Democratic National Convention Committee

Posted by: drossless | September 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers," - Thomas Pynchon

Posted by: drossless | September 7, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

To me actions speak a lot clearer than words. 84 bags of US flags that's over 12,000 flags rescued by boyscounts from the trash from the democratic convention. That is your political dontations to Obama at work. How will he spend your tax money. You don't want to know! Maverick and Barracuda '08

Posted by: Jinny | September 7, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Susie wrote: "If you want to know more about this guy, read OBAMANATION."

You are probably referring to "The Obama Nation" by Corsi, otherwise famous as the propagator of the Swift Boat calumny against Kerry. Not exactly a disinterested biography.

Every major publication that has bothered to review that book has concluded that it is essentially a bundle of lies based on collecting rumors off the Internet.

Too bad Republicans have to rely on slandering their enemies rather than defending their own policies. Maybe you could describe for me why I should vote for the Party that has sent my 401k tanking, wrecked my house value, quadrupled the cost of gas, increased unemployment, and then called Americans a bunch of whiners for complaining about it?

[Crickets chirping.]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

So let's not even get into the ease with with Republicans start wars and the difficulty they have winning them. Dang, Democrats beat Germany and Japan together in less time than the Republicans have taken in either Iraq or Afghanistan, and we're still fighting in both. You had Osama bin Ladin surrounded in Tora Bora and let him get away. I'm sure you don't want to talk about all that.

We expect to see a lot of slanders coming out of you all. No surprises there. The question is whether Americans are still buying your brand of BS or if bottom line reality is finally snapping them out of the long slumber they've been in.

Posted by: drossless | September 7, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

McCain is the true American hero who almost gave his life to this country to keep us all safe and secure. He is the true mavrick who is not scared to take on his own party for American people. McCain is the one who puts his Country first. McCain is the man of his words.

Unlike obama, who sat 20 years in racist church and with his uncle radical pastor Wright to apploude his anti-american rants.

Its not McCain but Obama who wasted taxpayers money in grants to Convicted criminal Rezko.

Its not McCain but Obama who put his family and radical friends first and calls a fraud mayor a "Great Mayor". By the way this scumbag kilpatrick is in jail now.

Its not McCain but Obama who is friends with Islam Farrakhan and his radical muslim radicals.

Its not McCain by Obama who's wife has anti-american sentiments.

Its not McCain but Obama who's harvard education was funded by a radical muslim from saudi arabia.

Its not McCain but Obama who is friends with racist Sharpton and racist Jackson.

If you want to know more about this guy, read OBAMANATION. One book is not sufficient for this guy's background.. there are many more. read at your convenience.

Dude, Thank god that you are safe in this part of the world from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists who are killing innocent people around Asia. Search "Despatching undercover mosque" on google and you will see what are these radical Islamic Terrorists are doing in UK. Thank god that you can safely and securly blog day and night asking these stupid questions.

Posted by: susie | September 7, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

It is ironic that the man who made Obama decide, not a good idea to debate Hillary again, or maybe anybody. Who can forget, capital gains tax increase net negative for revenue. But today, Obama may, That's a big MAY, keep tax cuts for the "RICH" in place if we are in a recession. Extend the Bush tax cuts, uh...uh...MAYBE if you vote for me! Ah the polls they are a changing! http://www.bop-o-ram.com The numbers are gettin ginteresting ant Team Obama vs Team McCain? This weekend looks like ti may go to Team Obama! 30,000 plus bops today!!!!

Posted by: acarponzo | September 7, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted 21 hrs ago- Still no response from McCain/Palin -

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Who is McCain?

What has he done for our country?

Posted by: hadeze | September 6, 2008

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I'll tell you.........

I don't know- but that's not the problem. The problem is that you can ask his supporters those questions and THEY don't know. There are large portions of McCain's life - inside of his numerous luxury houses & condos and while chain-smoking in the US Navy for example that we never hear about ...why? Obama has fellow democrats like Teddy Kennedy, HRC & Bill Clinton vouching for his character at the convention. WHERE ARE MCCAIN'S FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES? (other than quid pro quo politicians). I have asked dozens of times on these blogs for any McCain supporter to quote one act of any significance (you know what I feel about his plagiarized, right-wing ethics and loose talk about building new nukes & drilling from coast to coast, even where there's no oil - not much) that he's performed for our country - name one family he helped out of financial or medical misery and how???? They can't. They tell ME to go find out for them! Perhaps the best thing McCain did for this country was to admit at the Republican Convention that as a young, gung-ho fighter pilot he bombed Vietnamese villages with total indifference for human life below, until he himself felt the same pain he had inflicted on the simple people dying under his bomb runs - honesty is a good start. In admitting this fact, he provides one of the only (very sad) answers to the question of what John McCain has done for this country, bomb villagers in Vietnam!

McCain is the olde, weezing Emperor (walking with his worsening Alzheimer confusion in and out of his luxury houses & condos, owned by Cindy McCain) and Camp McCain/Palin is embarrassed to say that they don't see any clothes (accomplishments).

Posted by: hadeze | September 7, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted 19 hrs ago- Still no response from Camp Obama-

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Who is Obama?

What has he done for our country?

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 10:22 PM
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Rick, I'll tell you.........

I don't know- but that's not the problem. The problem is that you can ask his supporters those questions and THEY don't know. There are large portions of Obama's life- in Indonesia and at Harvard Law for example that we never hear about....why? McCain has fellow veterans vouching for his character at the convention. WHERE ARE OBAMA'S FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES? (other than quid pro quo politicians). I have asked dozens of times on these blogs for any Obama supporter to quote one act of any significance (you know what I feel about his weak ethics and loose nukes bills- not much) that he's performed for our country- name one family he helped organize and how???? They can't. They tell ME to go find out for them! Perhaps the best thing Obama did for this country was to admit on Bill O'Reilly's show that the surge worked- honesty is a good start. In admitting this fact, he provides one of many answers to the question of what John McCain has done for this country.

Obama is the Emperor (styrofoam pillars included!) and Camp Obama is embarassed to say that they don't see any clothes (accomplishments).


Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 11:01 PM

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%McCain enjoying increase in support following conventionUSA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.


Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

If Virginia voters will pull the lever for a man, Sen. McCain, who according to a New York Times investigation ***married into an organized crime network that had people killed,*** then they are not the Patriots I thought Virginians were.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 7, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Some mother!

Naturally horny northern girl, barely 17, gets knocked up by her high school boyfriend after MacDo's & latest Batman movie.

Mother Palin, who doesn't believe in birth-control or sex education for children Made-in-the-USA, does however religiously believe in date-rape-fast marriages, again, for all US children.

No wonder the divorce rate is +50% in the US.

Who wants to spend the rest of their (only) life with their very first high school crush? At 27 women & men are definitely not the same horny teenagers they were at the awfully ripe age of 17 - some basis for the long trail of monogamous marriage.

Makes the challenge of marriage look totally ridiculous, but cute ... and I guess that's what counts for the ever-smiling ex-mayor of Wasilla, the "cute" in pregnancy & marriage.

Posted by: hadeze | September 7, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please. They were discussing how the McCain campaign spreads lies about the Muslim thing and he got tongue tied, immediately correcting it.

Nice try though neocon plants!

Better head up to Alaska and make sure the book-burning Nazi who wants to force women to have rape babies doesn't have any more inconvenient scandals pop out of nowhere.

Posted by: John S. Willow | September 7, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the reality TV shenanigans of McCain's drag-queen running mate. I could care less about that criminal, her fake pregnancy nor her daughter who can't keep her legs crossed.

What about issues? Or if you want to get salacious, what about the fact that McCain shows clean signs of dementia and perhaps Ahlzheimer's?

It's terrifying that a feeble man with dementia is running for president - with his finger on that notorious button - along with this trailer-trash character they've concocted to distract from the issues that are destroying America.

Posted by: Ethel Sugarman | September 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@Tommy, re: "friends" in Saudi Arabia

Bush Sen. & Bush Jr, Cheney & Co. have more "friends" (i.e., business associates) in S.A. than you or I can count.

Why else would two Republican administrations (Bush Sen. & Jr.) have continued to send +700$ billion/yr for oil shipments to their Swiss bank accounts? Why else would Bush Sen. & Jr. make sure Americans drive SUVs that use 25% of the world's total oil available?

If you still can't figure out why the US is in the economic & military mess it is today, multiply +700$ billion x 10 yrs.

That's the deficit you and your children's children will be paying in Republican-made taxes from tax horizon to tax horizon. If you & your children like being broke & without universal medical care (available in Canada for its 33 million) vote the McCain/Palin ticket again & again.

McCain understood the writing on the poverty wall: he married a filthy rich blond, someone who pays no taxes.

Posted by: hadeze | September 7, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I just saw the video. I was a support but not any more. He himself does not know who he is.

God bless

Posted by: linda | September 7, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Being a christian is ok.

Being a muslim and lie about it. That raises questions on what are his intentions. Given his radical associations and havin known now that his Harvard education was funded by a radical muslim in Saudi Arabia.. that scars us to night.

Posted by: tommy | September 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Matt & thank our dear great Mohammed residing in the foreign skies!

For a while I was really worried that Barrack Obama was secretly another christian Jehovah Witness or maybe a jewish Christian.

Golly gee, Jeez, what a relief!

Posted by: hadeze | September 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

folks, just search "my muslim faith" on google. you have videos there obama claiming he is muslim.

Posted by: mathew | September 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Another bad day for the Baracky Hussein Obama campaign.

Rep. Charles B. Rangel paid no mortgage interest on a beach resort property for more than 10 years, a lawyer for the powerful House committee chairman said yesterday.

Democrats for John McCain 2008.

Posted by: gary | September 7, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Breaking news. Obama admits that he is a muslim on abc. Videos are available on youtube.

Posted by: matt | September 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Anyone catch John (demento) Mccain's speech yesterday where he said they were going to drill new nuclear plants? The guy is losing his mind.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Hello @TopJack

Re: "white trash, drag queen crook from Alaska & her trashy knocked-up daughter"...

Couldn't help but laugh at your colourful combination of adjectives- you're quite right, of course.

And its ironical & funny how the McCain/Palin ticket is dumping on its own Republican-controlled media at large - who else owns large newspapers, large tv-stations & internet sites ... but the filthy rich?

And yet, in spite of the terrified reporters who work for these Republican owners & write what their true monotheistic, religion-crazed Republicans demand, the McCain/Palin ticket still has trouble with their leashed, unfree press. From their perspective, the only good press is a dead press - like under Putin & other fascists.

On top of it all, Ms. Happiness-is-a-Warm -Gun-and-a-Bloodied-Deer "studied" journalism at a college. Wonder what her private College then taught her about presenting all relevant data? Anyway, she gives no interviews ...

Unfortunately, few journalism students go on for their Ph.D.

Keep those colorful adjectives flying over the Republic's skies! Once McCain/Palin rule the land, grey & more grey will be the only color from everywhere to Alaska, books with words will be censored & gun-training taught to toddlers in Kindergartens, atheists denied US citizenship.

Posted by: hadeze | September 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Torrito,

Hey cut them loose and let them get broken up and sold off. Nancy Pelosi and Harry reed are drooling at the possibility of running a trillion dollar business. Obama probably is too. What a great resume item. This bailout better include the quick sell off to the private sector. Anyway, Team McCain seems to be on vacation ot http://www.bop-o-rama.com. It looks like Team Obama is pushing McCain over 500,000 today.

Posted by: acarponzo | September 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, McCain's judgment is "great" after choosing an inexperienced governor whose greatest claim to fame is supporting earmarks before she was against them! I don't care how many years you have been running something--I want to see what you have done. She left her city of 9,000 with $22 million in the red. She has been an off an on friend of crony Ted Stevens.

McCain wanted to pick Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman, but he was afraid to do so for fear of alienating his base. That's not "country first". That's "me first". The man wants to win...so all you right-wingers need to stop trying to canonize McCain. He's not better than any of the rest of us.

Palin has more baggage than an airport luggage hub. Either its her knocked up kid, something with her husband, this Troopergate thing, the controversy with firing other employees, using racial slurs casually, or something involving her children. She clearly has control issues with people who don't do EVERYTHING she wants. That's not executive experience--its executive disorder. Expect her to get sacked or inevitably drag down the ticket.
Now she's trying to hide from the big bad media, even though she's so "tough". If only Joe Biden could do that! It sure is nice to refuse answering questions because you feel like it!

If Palin wants to win, she's going to have to improve on this utterly craptastic and shady behavior. You can't ignore the media because they had to do the vetting that McCain clealy didn't perform.

Posted by: Jon | September 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

You people ought to be ashamed of yourself, picking on Obama about silly stuff when your own candidate, Sen. McCain, ***married into an organized crime family*** that has a history of ***killing people***. The New York Times, no less, has investigated this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html

Are you people Patriots? Or IDIOTS?!

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Reported today:

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has been in contact in recent weeks with foreign governments that hold billions of dollars of Fannie and Freddie debt to reassure them that the United States recognizes the importance of the two companies.

Nevertheless, the Bank of China said in late August that it cut back its portfolio of the Fannie and Freddie's debt by about one quarter since the end of June.

No comments from those degegulation supply-sider "let the markets decide" Republicans?

Thought not.

Posted by: toritto | September 7, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA LIES ABOUT OUTSOURCING TO FOREIGN SOIL!

Barack and Howard Dean are using a company called Donor Services Group in Los Angeles that has an outsource call center in Manila, Philippines to handle their fund raising efforts. This isn't the only company they are using that is open about sending American Jobs to foreign soil. Both Obama and Dean know this but they are getting great rates on with low wages and this works in their efforts to mislead the public on jobs.

Donor Services Group is a minimum wage company that does not pay a fair wage to nearly 150 staffers and refuses to pay for all hours worked and makes WalMart look like a very generous company!

Both DNC and Barack know this and don't care that the company uses harsh tactics on the staff to get money raised.

Posted by: Corwin | September 7, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The days of the evil Republican empire are done.

People are eagerly registering by the thousands to vote for Obama and the change he will bring.

Not even a white-trash, drag-queen crook from Alaska and her knocked-up trashy daughter will upset Americans' hunger to be prosperous and thrive again.

It's over neocons. You nearly destroyed the contry and the people are taking it back!

Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: TopJack | September 7, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jim'
I'm pretty sure you would enjoy paying a mere 48% taxes on your income. Socialism doesn't work that great in the UK or in canada. If you think it will work here in this country full of Lazy, what can my country do for me today ,generations of welfare recipient people I disagree. And I did fail to mention earlier that I strongly support alternative energy sources, Alaska gets plenty of wind and there has been talk of using tidal generators. I am not going to rant and rave about socialism but I am a firm believer in hard work, something that has been missing in the country for a while, I support tax breaks for health care but am against free health care. I have never seen a government controlled agency perform without corruption, red tape, cost overruns, and semi-quality health care. The VA hospital should be an indicator of what we may expect and please don't blame that on bush also, that has been going downhill since he was a kid. You also may want to check out the GLOBAL POVERTY ACT that was pushed through by barack and biden. $854 Billion dollars is a lot of money to be handing out to corrupt government of poor nations. If you think Barack is not going to raise your taxes you are being decieved. Windfall Profits tax on oil companies failed miserably during the Carter administration and we waited in line for gas.

Posted by: brian | September 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

When the good people of Virginia find out that, according to an investigation by the New York Times, ***McCain married into an organized crime family*** it's all over:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html
Key words: Felony convictions, race tracks, asasination (msp on purp),… and it doesn’t even get into Keating or, more importantly, ***who Marley and Hensley worked for and with.*** The word is that the mob's regional network was Phoenix/Vegas/LA and that it included Meyer Lansky and other well known hoodlums. Bonanno retired in Arizona.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

From "Businessweek":
"
"Stacy Williams owns a three-bedroom house with a full basement and central air-conditioning in a quiet neighborhood on the upper west side of Youngstown, Ohio.

Williams, now 33, was earning $8.05 an hour as a manager at McDonald's when she moved into the house with her husband, a laborer at a construction equipment manufacturer, and son back in 2004. The couple's combined annual salary was $33,000. But the purchase didn't require much of a financial stretch: The house cost $48,000. "If you have the credit score to do it, there's nothing that can stop you from buying a home in Youngstown," said Williams, whose plans for the house include a second bathroom"

See! Republican economics works!! Here are two people working full yime making $33K between them and they can afford a house!! Nine of the 10 "most affordable" places to live are in Indiana, Pennsylvania and Ohio!!

So why are these folks whining about lost jobs, healthcare, college affordability etc. They have it so good under Republican economics!! Housing prices have been driven so low that even a couple of burgher flippers can afford one!!!

So when you rust belt folks vote your "values" instead of your pocketbook, think about Johnnie boy's "patriotism" and how he is truly the "servant" of the nation. Screw you and your lost jobs, lack of healthcare, inabilibty to send your kid to college or pay for a wedding. If you're in deep economic doodoo and vote for more of the same, you deserve it.

Cindy wore a $300,000 dress to the party; its you who are the servant.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Listen, Scott, I'm just getting to this stuff for the first time today.

As for your claim that I'd steal your handle- look buddy, I've got things going on in my life and I don't have time for your silliness.

I'm ignoring you and your posts for now on.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Brian,

"Socialism" actually works all over western Europe where workers demand things like health care and affordable public transportation. Social security--which may save your butt someday--is actually "socialism" in action. And boy do Americans love it! I suggest you change the channel (from Fox news) once in a while. Or take a trip outside the country on occasion. Bush/McCain has our country on the fast track to 3rd world irrelevance. And they rely on just your kind of thinking to keep putting money in their friends pockets.

Jim

Posted by: Jim | September 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

49k new voters to vote for Palin, LOL- I guess It doesnt Matter. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee., not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world.

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I live in Alaska, Palin has opened up a can of worms in this country, I have lived in Wasilla since 82' and have nothing but praise for Sarah, I have seen this woman in action and she is going to make a fine VP. I also work in the cleanest and safest oilfield in the US. The Liberal Left has lied to the US for years about ANWR. 2000 acres of flat as KANSAS devoid of life is what is proposed for drilling. ANWR is the size of SOUTH CAROLINA, there are no mountains, trees, rivers, and wildlife is damn scarce. With the new technology we have in the industry directional drilling allows for tapping vast oil reserves with a small footprint. Democrats want you to believe it is rape pillage and plunder, Sarah supports drilling ANWR to help ease the dependance on foriegn oil. Do not be fooled by these people against ANWR. They have the fine people of this country believing we will destroy our great state. It was a dem controlled house and president that locked this land up in the first place and "slick willy clinton who vetoed it when he first took office or you fine folks would be looking at 1 million barrels per day more than what we already deliver. Do not get to consumed in the Sarah thing going on, she is a real person who will stand up just fine through storm. Ask yourself this question, why are the Democrats so busy trying to get the young people who have never had a career, house payment, family to vote for Barack. I have worked very hard to get to where I am at and pay a lot of taxes already, I would hate to pay more. The democrats have always raised taxes when in control, Socialism does not work. If you want change in Washington why on earth would you put two more IVY league lawyers in charge. thanks for your time McCain/Palin 08.

Posted by: brian | September 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

who is this guy obama?
What has he done for America? or Americans?

Why is his wife so amti-american despite of all that she has is only possible in America?

Posted by: scott | September 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

JULIA CHILES
Zeke,
Do you mean that famous chef Julia Childs ?
Misogynistic rants...the MILF comments, the smears her daughter suffered, and the overheard waitress comments are the stuff of styrofoam candidates and their supporters...AND the stuff of a candidate who smears a dead man for his own political gain- see below

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

SARAH PALIN is nothing more than the new JULIA CHILES. Of the govt,by the govt, and for the govt. But what about the PEOPLE ??? Well, the answere seems to be ,(TO HELL WITH THEM) This election is not about the issues, not about this country,and not about the future. This election is about the neocon/republicans trying to stay in charge. AS if they have not done enough damage already.

Posted by: zeke49 | September 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Voting Dems-

You miss the point- The styrofoam columns and hairplugs just represent lies and feelings of UNREALISTIC SELFIMPORTANCE- you know, like Obama -Greek Emperor (with no clothes) or Young Biden- whose lies are getting really sad by now-
case in point:

"...The New York Times reported the 2007 crowd at the University of Iowa grew silent as Biden gave his version of what happened that day.

"Let me tell you a little story," The newspaper quoted Biden as saying. "I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly -- and I never pursued it -- drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries....
"Even before Obama asked Biden to join his campaign, political observers said the senator's gaffes could be a liability in a contest where every word will be scrutinized. Biden's first presidential campaign 20 years ago was undone by charges he plagiarized parts of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock....

"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," said Jerome O. Herlihy, a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.

By RACHEL KIPP • The News Journal • September 4, 2008

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

It always amazes me that the very people who will be helped by a Democratic admin are the very nimrods who think that somehow the Republicans will make them rich. Like, they have held officer for most of the last half century with the exception of 14 years so where's you money? Where is your overturning of Roe v Wade? Where is your democracy and rights? What the Republicans are doing is changing America form a Democracy to a theocracy. How inconvenient for the Constitution. Oh and all you idiots dumping on Obama for having "styrofoam pillars" like what the hell would have been acceptable to you, maybe a slave shanty? A lean two? Maybe a slum apartment? You all act like they hauled him out of a golden chariot and slapped a crown on his head. It was tasteful and understated for the venue. As far a Palin, she's a Dominionist facist, and the facts will come out that she abused her power. So she captured the white male MILF vote, gee, I'm so proud of her.

Posted by: Votings Dem | September 7, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Brokaw got Biden on the MBNA scandal on Meet the Press!!!!!
My faith in NBC is restored.
He showed all the Obama commercials against lobbyists, then read a Delaware newspaper front page from today calling out Biden for siding with MBNA the company from which his lobbyist son Hunter received $500,000 over 5 years. Biden also received hundreds of thousands in campaign funds and VOTED AGAINST OBAMA on bankruptcy reform.

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Well things are certainly heating up on the talk show circuit. Obama's message sure doesn't sound positive or about the issues. He talks about tax cuts but what are they really? Entitlements that will cost trillions. Yes we need to vote and it appears people are willing to take sound bites from the candidates and MSM instead of learning about and thinking through the issues. The polls are tightening up. Team Obama is very active at http://www.bop-o-ram.com. This real-time poll has Team obama on a charge to push McCain over 500,000. Wake up Team McCain. And yes, register to vote!!!!

Posted by: acarponzo | September 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Brokaw got Biden on the MBNA scandal on Meet the Press!!!!!
My faith in NBC is restored.

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

49k new voters to vote for Palin, LOL- I guess It doesnt Matter. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee., not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world.

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted 12 hrs ago- Still no response from Camp Obama-

******************
Who is Obama?

What has he done for our country?

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 10:22 PM
**************

Rick, I'll tell you.........

I don't know- but that's not the problem. The problem is that you can ask his supporters those questions and THEY don't know. There are large portions of Obama's life- in Indonesia and at Harvard Law for example that we never hear about....why? McCain has fellow veterans vouching for his character at the convention. WHERE ARE OBAMA'S FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES? (other than quid pro quo politicians). I have asked dozens of times on these blogs for any Obama supporter to quote one act of any significance (you know what I feel about his weak ethics and loose nukes bills- not much) that he's performed for our country- name one family he helped organize and how???? They can't. They tell ME to go find out for them! Perhaps the best thing Obama did for this country was to admit on Bill O'Reilly's show that the surge worked- honesty is a good start. In admitting this fact, he provides one of many answers to the question of what John McCain has done for this country.

Obama is the Emperor and Camp Obama is embarassed to say that they don't see any clothes (accomplishments).


Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 11:01 PM

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Hey Camp Obama- Did I ever tell you about the time that a 44 yo women was accused of having her pregnant daughter's baby?....miraculous...AND the baby had Down's syndrome- a disease directly proportional to maternal AGE- AND Camp Obama swore on a stack of bibles that the Enquirer had the story nailed! I suppose that's because Bill Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama-Tony Rezko has you all disbelieving the word of your elected officials...sad. So you post in my name now....perfectly in keeping with the filth your side spews- you know like the misogynistic blogs that came out before Palin put you on notice.

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

NOT POSTED BY SCOTT-
GET ANOTHER NAME "DEEP BLUE"

(Have you guys ever heard about "don warden" in the liberal media? Google it and you will find Obama's ties with radical muslim from saudi arabia at early age.

god know what he believes.

God bless america

Posted by: scott | September 7, 2008 10:11 AM )

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

(substitute accomplishments for clothes and you'll get my point)

Story of the Emperor's New Clothes


by Hans Christian Andersen

Many years ago there lived an Emperor who was so fond of new clothes that he spent all his money on them in order to be beautifully dressed. He did not care about his soldiers, he did not care about the theatre; he only liked to go out walking to show off his new clothes. He had a coat for every hour of the day; and just as they say of a king, 'He is in the council-chamber,' they always said here, 'The Emperor is in the wardrobe.'

In the great city in which he lived there was always something going on; every day many strangers came there. One day two impostors arrived who gave themselves out as weavers, and said that they knew how to manufacture the most beautiful cloth imaginable. Not only were the texture and pattern uncommonly beautiful, but the clothes which were made of the stuff possessed this wonderful property that they were invisible to anyone who was not fit for his office, or who was unpardonably stupid.

'Those must indeed be splendid clothes,' thought the Emperor. 'If I had them on I could find out which men in my kingdom are unfit for the offices they hold; I could distinguish the wise from the stupid! Yes, this cloth must be woven for me at once.' And he gave both the impostors much money, so that they might begin their work.

They placed two weaving-looms, and began to do as if they were working, but they had not the least thing on the looms. They also demanded the finest silk and the best gold, which they put in their pockets, and worked at the empty looms till late into the night.

'I should like very much to know how far they have got on with the cloth,' thought the Emperor. But he remembered when he thought about it that whoever was stupid or not fit for his office would not be able to see it. Now he certainly believed that he had nothing to fear for himself, but he wanted first to send somebody else in order to see how he stood with regard to his office. Everybody in the whole town knew what a wonderful power the cloth had, and they were all curious to see how bad or how stupid their neighbour was.

'I will send my old and honoured minister to the weavers,' thought the Emperor. 'He can judge best what the cloth is like, for he has intellect, and no one understands his office better than he.'

Now the good old minister went into the hall where the two impostors sat working at the empty weaving-looms. 'Dear me!' thought the old minister, opening his eyes wide, 'I can see nothing!' But he did not say so.

Both the impostors begged him to be so kind as to step closer, and asked him if it were not a beautiful texture and lovely colours. They pointed to the empty loom, and the poor old minister went forward rubbing his eyes; but he could see nothing, for there was nothing there.

'Dear, dear!' thought he, 'can I be stupid? I have never thought that, and nobody must know it! Can I be not fit for my office? No, I must certainly not say that I cannot see the cloth!'

'Have you nothing to say about it?' asked one of the men who was weaving.

'Oh, it is lovely, most lovely!' answered the old minister, looking through his spectacles. 'What a texture! What colours! Yes, I will tell the Emperor that it pleases me very much.'

'Now we are delighted at that,' said both the weavers, and thereupon they named the colours and explained the make of the texture.

The old minister paid great attention, so that he could tell the same to the Emperor when he came back to him, which he did.

The impostors now wanted more money, more silk, and more gold to use in their weaving. They put it all in their own pockets, and there came no threads on the loom, but they went on as they had done before, working at the empty loom. The Emperor soon sent another worthy statesman to see how the weaving was getting on, and whether the cloth would soon be finished. It was the same with him as the first one; he looked and looked, but because there was nothing on the empty loom he could see nothing.

'Is it not a beautiful piece of cloth?' asked the two impostors, and they pointed to and described the splendid material which was not there.

'Stupid I am not!' thought the man, 'so it must be my good office for which I am not fitted. It is strange, certainly, but no one must be allowed to notice it.' And so he praised the cloth which he did not see, and expressed to them his delight at the beautiful colours and the splendid texture. 'Yes, it is quite beautiful,' he said to the Emperor.

Everybody in the town was talking of the magnificent cloth.

Now the Emperor wanted to see it himself while it was still on the loom. With a great crowd of select followers, amongst whom were both the worthy statesmen who had already been there before, he went to the cunning impostors, who were now weaving with all their might, but without fibre or thread.

'Is it not splendid!' said both the old statesmen who had already been there. 'See, your Majesty, what a texture! What colours!' And then they pointed to the empty loom, for they believed that the others could see the cloth quite well.

'What!' thought the Emperor, 'I can see nothing! This is indeed horrible! Am I stupid? Am I not fit to be Emperor? That were the most dreadful thing that could happen to me. Oh, it is very beautiful,' he said. 'It has my gracious approval.' And then he nodded pleasantly, and examined the empty loom, for he would not say that he could see nothing.

His whole Court round him looked and looked, and saw no more than the others; but they said like the Emperor, 'Oh! it is beautiful!' And they advised him to wear these new and magnificent clothes for the first time at the great procession which was soon to take place. 'Splendid! Lovely! Most beautiful!' went from mouth to mouth; everyone seemed delighted over them, and the Emperor gave to the impostors the title of Court weavers to the Emperor.

Throughout the whole of the night before the morning on which the procession was to take place, the impostors were up and were working by the light of over sixteen candles. The people could see that they were very busy making the Emperor's new clothes ready. They pretended they were taking the cloth from the loom, cut with huge scissors in the air, sewed with needles without thread, and then said at last, 'Now the clothes are finished!'

The Emperor came himself with his most distinguished knights, and each impostor held up his arm just as if he were holding something, and said, 'See! here are the breeches! Here is the coat! Here the cloak!' and so on.

'Spun clothes are so comfortable that one would imagine one had nothing on at all; but that is the beauty of it!'

'Yes,' said all the knights, but they could see nothing, for there was nothing there.

'Will it please your Majesty graciously to take off your clothes,' said the impostors, 'then we will put on the new clothes, here before the mirror.'

The Emperor took off all his clothes, and the impostors placed themselves before him as if they were putting on each part of his new clothes which was ready, and the Emperor turned and bent himself in front of the mirror.

'How beautifully they fit! How well they sit!' said everybody. 'What material! What colours! It is a gorgeous suit!'

'They are waiting outside with the canopy which your Majesty is wont to have borne over you in the procession,' announced the Master of the Ceremonies.

'Look, I am ready,' said the Emperor. 'Doesn't it sit well!' And he turned himself again to the mirror to see if his finery was on all right.

The chamberlains who were used to carry the train put their hands near the floor as if they were lifting up the train; then they did as if they were holding something in the air. They would not have it noticed that they could see nothing.

So the Emperor went along in the procession under the splendid canopy, and all the people in the streets and at the windows said, 'How matchless are the Emperor's new clothes! That train fastened to his dress, how beautifully it hangs!'

No one wished it to be noticed that he could see nothing, for then he would have been unfit for his office, or else very stupid. None of the Emperor's clothes had met with such approval as these had.

'But he has nothing on!' said a little child at last.

'Just listen to the innocent child!' said the father, and each one whispered to his neighbour what the child had said.

'But he has nothing on!' the whole of the people called out at last.

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Have you guys ever heard about "don warden" in the liberal media? Google it and you will find Obama's ties with radical muslim from saudi arabia at early age.

god know what he believes.

God bless america

Posted by: scott | September 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Obama is just talk no deeds infact his deeds areexactly oposite to what he preach to public. Obama granted taxpayers money to Axelrode for nothing in the name of medical support. 20 years of radical Wright, Taxpayers money wasted for Rezko who is in jail now. He believes Kilpatrick who is in jail now for fraud a "great mayor"

This guy is scary and should not be the next president of united states.

McCain is the only choice to keep us safe from Fundamental Islamic terrorists.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

From "Businessweek":
"
"Stacy Williams owns a three-bedroom house with a full basement and central air-conditioning in a quiet neighborhood on the upper west side of Youngstown, Ohio.

Williams, now 33, was earning $8.05 an hour as a manager at McDonald's when she moved into the house with her husband, a laborer at a construction equipment manufacturer, and son back in 2004. The couple's combined annual salary was $33,000. But the purchase didn't require much of a financial stretch: The house cost $48,000. "If you have the credit score to do it, there's nothing that can stop you from buying a home in Youngstown," said Williams, whose plans for the house include a second bathroom"

See! Republican economics works!! Here are two people working full yime making $33K between them and they can afford a house!! Nine of the 10 "most affordable" places to live are in Indiana, Pennsylvania and Ohio!!

So why are these folks whining about lost jobs, healthcare, college affordability etc. They have it so good under Republican economics!! Housing prices have been driven so low that even a couple of burgher flippers can afford one!!!

So when you rust belt folks vote your "values" instead of your pocketbook, think about Johnnie boy's "patriotism" and how he is truly the "servant" of the nation.

Cindy wore a $300,000 dress to the party; its you who are the servant.

:-)

Have a nice day!

Posted by: toritto | September 7, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a world-class liar, Obama has poor judgement. From his associations with Ayers, Rezko and Rev. Wright to picking Biden as his VP... Its a trend I just cannot overcome.

McCain wouldnt have been my first pick, but going over Obama's economic plans to raise payroll taxes, my business just cannot handle that.

Posted by: Marko | September 7, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted 8 hrs ago- Still no response from Camp Obama-

******************
Who is Obama?

What has he done for our country?

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 10:22 PM
**************

Rick, I'll tell you.........

I don't know- but that's not the problem. The problem is that you can ask his supporters those questions and THEY don't know. There are large portions of Obama's life- in Indonesia and at Harvard Law for example that we never hear about....why? McCain has fellow veterans vouching for his character at the convention. WHERE ARE OBAMA'S FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES? (other than quid pro quo politicians). I have asked dozens of times on these blogs for any Obama supporter to quote one act of any significance (you know what I feel about his weak ethics and loose nukes bills- not much) that he's performed for our country- name one family he helped organize and how???? They can't. They tell ME to go find out for them! Perhaps the best thing Obama did for this country was to admit on Bill O'Reilly's show that the surge worked- honesty is a good start. In admitting this fact, he provides one of many answers to the question of what John McCain has done for this country.

Obama is the Emperor and Camp Obama is embarassed to say that they don't see any clothes (accomplishments).


Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 11:01 PM

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

NyM- Why? Isn't your side posting anti Palin heresay? Waitresses are great sources of info- like the waitress who said Palin was covering up the down's syndrome baby her 16 yo daughter gave birth to- remember that one? Here's a post straight from the NY Times on Your vice Plagiarist candidate. The Wasdhington post IS your blog And my blog- get used to it or leave....I hope you stay because the truth hurts-

"...The New York Times reported the 2007 crowd at the University of Iowa grew silent as Biden gave his version of what happened that day.

"Let me tell you a little story," The newspaper quoted Biden as saying. "I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly -- and I never pursued it -- drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries....
"Even before Obama asked Biden to join his campaign, political observers said the senator's gaffes could be a liability in a contest where every word will be scrutinized. Biden's first presidential campaign 20 years ago was undone by charges he plagiarized parts of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock....

"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," said Jerome O. Herlihy, a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.

By RACHEL KIPP • The News Journal • September 4, 2008

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 7:37 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: jokeseehouse | September 7, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

This 51 year old white man is proudly registering voters for Obama. It's called "Community Organizing" , you know , that thing the Republicans like to make light of ?

The thing that is going to turn this election into a Landslide Victory for Obama/Biden.

By the way Mrs. Palin is a wonderful funraiser for the Obama Campaign...LOL....As in MILLIONS !

Posted by: James | September 7, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

What an elaborate fantasy Deep Blue is weaving for himself, with his jiggering of numbers and percentages to produce an electoral map where Obama takes the South!

Ha! Thanks for the comedy. Have the anti-depressants ready when you awake from your delusions on the night of the elections! The loser puppet masters of the Democratic party behind the empty suit pretty much wrote off Florida and possibly even Ohio when they so shabbily ditched Hillary Clinton—the only running mate who could've saved the Obama candidacy. Without Florida and Ohio, Obama would indeed need to take a big chunk of the South to have a realistic shot at winning. That ain't gonna happen. Georgia? NC? Are you kidding me?! You may as well refight the Civil War!

Posted by: Bunraku | September 7, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Uh "Scott", we really all do not need that highly retarded blathering rant. Go get your own blog or something, the fact is no one wants to read all that unrelated, off topic crap.

As for something more on topic, it doesn't matter what party new voters vote for, the fact is we ALL win when more people vote.

If you don't vote, your opinion doesn't matter at all.

Posted by: Nym | September 7, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

This article is a joke!
"40% are UNDER 25" and will be great news for Obama.
HELLO..............That means 60% are OLDER than 25, and that is in McCain's favor.

Posted by: 60% are OVER 25 | September 7, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

"...The New York Times reported the 2007 crowd at the University of Iowa grew silent as Biden gave his version of what happened that day.

"Let me tell you a little story," The newspaper quoted Biden as saying. "I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly -- and I never pursued it -- drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries....
"Even before Obama asked Biden to join his campaign, political observers said the senator's gaffes could be a liability in a contest where every word will be scrutinized. Biden's first presidential campaign 20 years ago was undone by charges he plagiarized parts of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock....

"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," said Jerome O. Herlihy, a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.

By RACHEL KIPP • The News Journal • September 4, 2008

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

McK- she was for the bridge before she was against it....true, and in the end she rejected it- the property taxes in her town went down....she's THE MOST POPULAR GOVERNOR in America- 80% approval rating-

You Democrats know all about that unfair tactic of misquoting the record- didn't you defend Kerry on the before/against strategy????

What has Obama accomplished? Whose property taxes did he lower? What pork barrell project did he reject? In fact he supports one of the largest CORN ETHANOL... raises food prices and uses as much petroleum as it saves- 7x less efficient than the sugar cane ethanol McCain supports-
Get an accomplished candidate and we'll talk

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

pastor123 you might want to look a little closer into Palin's past before calling her a "reformer", You know that Bridge to Nowhere she claims she was against? Yeah turns out she was for it. You know that claim that she fought earmarks, turns out she was the Queen of Earmarks in Alaska. You know that "executive experience" as a mayor of 5,000. Turns out she bungled the only big project the city did while she was in office (a hockey rink no less) for which the town is still in the red over. You know that she fought corrupt politicans bit? Turns out she is being investigated RIGHT NOW for whether she abused her powers while gov (even though she has been gove less than 2 years, wow that is racing to the bottom fast). You know that story of her just being a regular old hockey mom? Turns out she tried to have books banned at the local library while mayor. The more you learn the less reformer and the more right wing radical ideolog she becomes. Just saying pastor123.

Posted by: MK | September 7, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Hey MK.....Does "MK" stand for
McCain-Kennedy???????????
I bet you're a "Republican Troll" posting subliminal messages, touting McCain's bipartisan record!
Shame on you McK

Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Say it isn't so, Joe...Another Lie- now what do you really think about Obama's readiness to be President?


Saturday, September 6, 2008

1972 crash still haunts driver's family
No DUI in crash that killed Biden's 1st wife, but he's implied otherwise
By RACHEL KIPP • The News Journal • September 4, 2008

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Since his vice presidential nomination, Joe Biden's 2007 statement that a "guy who allegedly ... drank his lunch" and drove the truck that struck and killed his first wife and daughter has gained national media traction.


Alcohol didn't play a role in the 1972 crash, investigators found. But as recently as last week, the syndicated TV show Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware and saying the truck driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."

The senator's statements don't jibe with news and law enforcement reports from the time, which cleared driver Curtis C. Dunn, who died in 1999, of wrongdoing.

"To see it coming from [Biden's] mouth, I just burst into tears," Dunn's daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. "My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he's not here to defend himself."

Biden spokesman David Wade said Wednesday that the senator "fully accepts the Dunn family's word that these rumors were false."

It's unclear who first suggested alcohol was a factor in the crash, but since Barack Obama tapped Biden to be his running mate on Aug. 23, The New York Times, National Public Radio and The Economist have run stories that characterized Dunn as a drunken driver.

"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," said Jerome O. Herlihy, a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.

"If it were some part of a cause of the accident, there would have been a charge, simply because if you're driving under the influence and kill someone in the process -- whether it's the wife of a U.S. senator or anybody else -- there's going to be a charge," he said.

Herlihy said investigators discussed several possible causes for the crash, including that Biden's first wife, Neilia, turned her head and didn't see the oncoming truck as she exited the intersection of Limestone and Valley roads on Dec. 18, 1972.

Neither Biden's book nor his campaign Web site directly addresses the alcohol issue, but the senator has done so publicly on at least two occasions.

The New York Times reported the 2007 crowd at the University of Iowa grew silent as Biden gave his version of what happened that day.

"Let me tell you a little story," The newspaper quoted Biden as saying. "I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly -- and I never pursued it -- drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries."

Biden told a similar story when addressing an audience at the Bob Carpenter Center at the University of Delaware a few days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

"It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them," Biden said, according to a transcript archived on his Senate Web site.

Even before Obama asked Biden to join his campaign, political observers said the senator's gaffes could be a liability in a contest where every word will be scrutinized. Biden's first presidential campaign 20 years ago was undone by charges he plagiarized parts of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock.

Asked about Biden's accounts of the accident, Wade warned against writing anything that would "infer, paraphrase, or be anything less than precise on such a personal and tragic subject."

After the 1972 accident, Biden never sought any records from the time of the crash, nor did he seek any further investigation, Wade said.

"In remarks he made at the University of Iowa he said 'allegedly -- and I never pursued it.' " Wade wrote in an e-mail. "Nor did he encourage reporting on it then or at any other time. He has never called it or thought of it as anything other than an 'accident.' His focus was his grief over the loss of his wife and daughter and his concern for the recovery of his sons."

News reports from 1972 said Neilia Hunter Biden pulled away from a stop sign at Limestone and Valley roads about 2:30 p.m. when the tractor-trailer driven by Dunn, which was coming down a hill on Limestone Road, hit the side of her station wagon. Dunn freed himself from the truck and was the first to reach the Biden car, according to a report by the The Evening Journal, a precursor to The News Journal.

Neilia Biden and 13-month-old daughter Naomi, whom the family called Amy, were declared dead at a hospital. Son Beau, now Delaware's attorney general, broke his leg, and son Hunter suffered head injuries. Joe Biden, who had been elected to his first term in the Senate just a month before, took his oath of office at the boys' bedside.

Two days after the crash, Herlihy, a neighbor of the Bidens in the late 1960s who still considers the senator "a friend," told the paper that there was no evidence that Dunn "was speeding, drinking or driving a truck with faulty brakes." No criminal charges related to the crash were ever filed against Dunn, who lived in North East, Md.

Hamill, one of seven children, was 8 years old at the time of the accident. She remembers her father watching news reports of the crash while wearing a sling to support a shoulder injury he suffered in the accident.

She said Dunn was always "solemn" around the Christmas holidays. Years later, when her brother planned to get married on Dec. 18, Dunn told the family "I don't celebrate on that day," Hamill said.

"We're not trying to equate Sen. Biden's loss to my father's heartache," Hamill said. "But we wanted it to be known that our father never forgot that tragic day."

Hamill said it wasn't until the Inside Edition report that she became aware that the Delaware senator had said alcohol played a role in the accident. Dunn did not consume any alcohol the day of the crash, Hamill said.

She said she immediately called Biden's office after being contacted by Inside Edition and is waiting for the senator's response.

"The family feels these statements are both hurtful and untrue and we didn't know where they originated from," Hamill said.

As Hamill watched a recording of the Inside Edition report Wednesday, she gasped when the clip of Biden's comments from Iowa came on screen.

After reading a News Journal account of Biden's 2001 speech at UD, Hamill sent Biden a letter on behalf of her father. The newspaper story included Biden's description of getting the call that his wife and daughter had died, but not his comments about Dunn.

Hamill said her note to the senator described how Dunn was affected by the accident.

Printed on the senator's letter head and dated Oct. 11, 2001, the response from Biden reads:

"I apologize for taking so long to acknowledge your thoughtful and heartfelt note," Biden wrote. "All that I can say is I am sorry for all of us and please know that neither I nor my sons feel any animosity whatsoever."

Contact Rachel Kipp at 324-2386 or rkipp@delawareonline.com.


Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

To Media Types and other communicators:

Maybe Palin is not the real story.

Maybe who's pulling her strings is the real story.

Maybe by focusing on her "vetting" you are missing the real story.

When she ultimately is forced to withdraw as a candidate, the real story remains.

Visit:

http://www.theocracywatch.org
http://www.nowpublic.com/scrivener - "Expose State-Supported Domestic Terrorism"

THE PALIN PARADOX: A PAWN IN THEIR GEOPOLITICAL GAME?
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/palin-vp-paradox-pawn-geopolitical-game-get-political-w-vic-livingston

If you have trouble accessing either site, complain to your internet service provider.

Posted by: scrivener | September 7, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

To the fawning McCain people out there here are some facts: McCain member of the Keating 5 scandal that rocked DC, McCain tells anti-female jokes (be it about rape or Chelsey Clinton), McCain been in the Senate for 26 years (and except for McCain-Feingold) what the heck has he done for REFORM?, McCain so out of touch with what is going on in this country that as recent as 3 weeks ago he said the country's economy was strong (and oh seems to have trouble remembering how many homes he owns), McCain loves Bush so much that as Bush has gotten more and more unpopular McCain has voted with him more and more, McCain was AGAINST the recently passed GI Bill of Rights, McCain wants to keep the tax cuts for the wealthiest one percent of Americans permanent (but then again McCain thinks anyone making less than $5 million is middle class). In the end McCain is nothing more than watered down Bush. If you like GW Bush then McCain is your man.

Posted by: MK | September 7, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

You guys need to go to bed.

Keep registering to vote! http://www.boppoll.com
You can register by clicking register to vote on the above site.
Team Obama! Get your bops out! http://www.bop-o-rama.com
Team McCain, maybe you should take a rest!

Posted by: mgultch | September 6, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Good references on Auchi-


Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama
(Charles Rex Arbogast/Pool/EPA)
Barack Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a mistake

James Bone in New York and Dominic Kennedy in London
Graphic: the house that Barack bought | The key players | Timeline: Barack and the billionaire

A British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses.

The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

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Three weeks later, Mr Obama bought a house on the city's South Side while Mr Rezko's wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15.

Mr Obama says he never used Mrs Rezko's still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.

Mrs Rezko, whose husband was widely known to be under investigation at the time, went on to sell a 10-foot strip of her property to Mr Obama seven months later so he could enjoy a bigger garden.

Mr Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a “boneheaded mistake”.

Mrs Rezko’s purchase and sale of the land to Mr Obama raises many unanswered questions.

It is unclear how Mrs Rezko could have afforded the downpayment of $125,000 and a $500,000 mortgage for the original $625,000 purchase of the garden plot at 5050 South Greenwood Ave.

In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."

Mrs Rezko, whose husband goes on trial on unrelated corruption charges in Chicago on March 3, refused to answer questions about the case when she spoke by telephone to The Times.


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Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

No Rick, I didn't see that one, but it would make sense since Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi billionaire money launderer for Saddam Hussein, loaned Rezko the money for Obama's side yard. (FACT straight from the Washington Post)

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

thanks scott, thats what I thought, behind those roaring speaches.. there is this blank part.

I read the news other day that even his Harward education was funded by a radical muslim in Saudi Arabia.. did you hear about that?

It all adds up to our greatest fear

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Who is Obama?

What has he done for our country?

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 10:22 PM
**************

Rick, I'll tell you.........

I don't know- but that's not the problem. The problem is that you can ask his supporters those questions and THEY don't know. There are large portions of Obama's life- in Indonesia and at Harvard Law for example that we never hear about....why? McCain has fellow veterans vouching for his character at the convention. WHERE ARE OBAMA'S FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES? (other than quid pro quo politicians). I have asked dozens of times on these blogs for any Obama supporter to quote one act of any significance (you know what I feel about his weak ethics and loose nukes bills- not much) that he's performed for our country- name one family he helped organize and how???? They can't. They tell ME to go find out for them! Perhaps the best thing Obama did for this country was to admit on Bill O'Reilly's show that the surge worked- honesty is a good start. In admitting this fact, he provides one of many answers to the question of what John McCain has done for this country.

Obama is the Emperor and Camp Obama is embarassed to say that they don't see any clothes (accomplishments).

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey folks, before I hit bed, just wanted to tell you one thing from heart.

I am voting McCain Palin this fall. After reading all the posts, I am convinced that Obama is a useless pick by Democrats who does not have a record. 0 executive experience and shady connections with radicals. Biden is same old politics.

Have a good knight folks

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

What is a community organizer?
Who is obama?
What has he done for this country?

I can't even find a good judgement from this guy. Bad judgements, alot

We all know that Biden is a biggest liar.

McCain has a wonderful record and is a true american hero. Palin is a perfect example of reform

Posted by: linda | September 6, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Well its getting close to old people bedtime. I'm gonna take off my nitro-patch, put my teeth in the glass and watch SNL till I fall asleep.

That's what Johnnie should be doing!

Good nite from "Shady Rest".

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden 08

Wow one smart man. Them other clowns that calling for change can't spell change... McSenile grad in the bottom 1% of his class and it took Gov. Sis Palin 6yrs to get an BS in BS.......
They are right Obama isn't one of them. His mother made sure he get's and Education......

Obama + Biden = A Smart Team
McSenile + Sis Palin = 2 Confused Clowns in a Hybrid...........


Posted by: Big AL | September 6, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow,,,,,,you GOP people are so sad you have to sight a rally that is in Colorado Springs.........megachurch wonderland!...as proof of enthusiasm, and in a feeble attempt to deflate the Dems....sounds like desperatation to me. They could get 15,000 people in Libertyville, VA, and a bunch of other enclaves......they haven't been out of SOLID GOP territory -- Cedarburg WI.......how will they be able to govern, let alone win, if they running away from Dems. Indies, and Moderates.......Palin can't even sit down for a serious interview,,,,,,,we've had 8 years of Bush hiding as much as possible....it all sounds so familiar.......

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Posted by: greedpets | September 6, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Have you guys seen "Dispatches Undercover Mosque" on youtube? Jesus, its really scary to see what these Fundamental Islamic Terrorists are doing in UK.

Check it our there are a seriese of videos out there.

Posted by: nick | September 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Have you guys seen this "Vote Reaper" on you tube ? this kids got potential!!!!!!!!!!! more under Macho Sauce Productions

Posted by: J.C. | September 6, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Democrats made big mistake picking this inexperienced, unknown obama who essentially called Clintons, racist. Biden his VP pick also does not believe he is ready for the job.

They screwed Hillary and now will go down this fall. They screwed themselves throwing away a golden chance

Posted by: susie | September 6, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

"Liberals all hate America"

Here's one who doesn't.

My grandfather, an Italian citizen, fought in France during WWI and received the Purple Heart. He didn't have to fight but he already loved this country. He was awarded his citizenship for his service.

MY uncles Tonly and Pete were both at Guadalcanal, one on land and one at sea. Neither knew the other was there at the time. They served for the duration.

My cousin Joey was on the New Jersey off of North Korea during the "police action".

My brother and I both served during Viet Nam - I gave 4 years when I only had to give two. He was drafted off the streets and was wounded during Tet.

None of us were "lifers" but we served with honor when the country called. My medals are hanging in a display box on my bedroom wall. My daughter's never knew I had received any medals; I never spoke of it. I never walked around with a funny VFW hat parading my "patrotism"

I learned something during all these years; 58000 plus kids died for nothing.

I will protect my kids by doing all I can to ensure we don't elect another war monger and a virtually fascist VP to the highest office in this country.

McCain has learned nothing - that old fool should retire with his wife's money to Sun City.

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

There were tears in my eyes when I watched McCain speach. What a selfless man, a true American and a Leader

Posted by: Diya | September 6, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

That is a good news for McCain. you know there were around 11000 people in the rally today and the people are all charged up for McCain Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Today's polls shows McCain wiped out obama's minor lead of 8 points after convention.. if this trend continue, Obama will not win this fall.

Posted by: rachel | September 6, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

GA - 32,000 new voters by Obama Campaign last WEEK!!!

State is so far behind processing all the papers they are hiring more workers to catch up..

Posted by: John Nail | September 6, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Who is Obama?

What has he done for our country?

Posted by: rick | September 6, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Why are there questions about obama? Because his background is hidden.. what we know about him is really scary..
Pastor wright, Rezko and his anti-american wife jeez.

We cannot trust him to solve our problem.. as he does not have any record.

McCain has a wonderful record of selfless service and we can trust him to solve our problems.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Thank god we are all safe in this part of the world. I salute our troops for their selfless service to this nation. They fight day and night so that we can sleep peacefully in this country.

God bless america

Posted by: Matt | September 6, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

When you can't run on ideas and policy and win, you run on "he hates America and throws the American flag in the garbage" lines.

Right.

It's time for a change. And as long as the politics of demonization are at play, it's time to vote AGAINST those who think they have a monopoly on patriotism.


Here is one patriot who is voting for Senator Obama in 2008.

Posted by: Linguist | September 6, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Ok Bob, Thanks for helping me understand the situation. I am going to find out where is the nearest local office of McCain camp and will start working this Monday. Lets get this Mavrick in the white house and turn the country around and keep all our grand children safe from these radical fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: torrito | September 6, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Heehee! I'm long retired old guy living in "Shady Rest" in the sunny South. On the last night of the Convention I might as well have been at the VFW hall.

McCain came across like a pompous old windbag telling war stories - like he was the only POW, how he "truly" loves America (like the rest of us don't) and that he (alone) is truly her "servant".

Oh give it a rest!

He's a militarist through and through. He believes the military is the answer to all our problems, first, last and always. He reminds me of a mini-man Douglas MacArthur.

When Johnny gets that wistful, far away look in his eyes, deep in his reminiscing about his "old soldier" comrades, he is doing what every old codger does who knows his best days are behind him - he's thinking that, even with the suffering, those POW days were the best days of his life.

PS - I served 11/63 - 11/67. 58,000 kids like me died for nothing.

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

We oldies are already volunteering with Vetrans for McCain to keep our grand children safe and secure from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists which is the priority. Then McCain is going to bring in real change and Palin is a perfect example of the reform.

Come join us at your local office and get this true American Hero in the oval office. we have lot of work to do to keep the unknown Democratic candidate with Questionable character and radical ties with convicted criminals like Rezko, who spent 20 years in racist church in chicago with radical pastor wright, Who is friends with fraud Mayor Kilpatrick who is in jail. who picked same old Biden as his running mate

Posted by: Bob | September 6, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Anonymous" Keep telling yourself that lie - maybe even you will eventually believe it.


:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the star and a true reformer. McCain's judgement is amaizing.

Opposed to Obama's judgement to pick Biden who is a 35 years insider and a famous liar, a man of many words

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain is the real change. Obama change is just words and same 35 year old liar biden

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey old retired people like me!

If you're for Obama and you have little to do during your days or evenings, why not volunteer at a local Obama headquarters

Many people like me who live in areas with large retirement populations can make ourselves useful talking to our neighbors.

Older people are especially needed 'cause many older residents get fearful when a couple of young people knock on their doors.

Do something for your country. Register voters and spread the message.

We are all receiving social security checks and only have health insurance because of Medicare (you know that single payer, socialized medical plan with the bureauocrat standing between you and your doctor that the GOP criticizes constantly!) without which you wouldnt have health insurance at all.

Volunteer! Do something for your kids and grandkids!

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey "anonymous" the only 2 lies are your name and obama's claim that the illinois law differed from the federal version. I'm pro choice and find this position on the infant protection act despicable.

Posted by: scott | September 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

If you want a bigger debt (Bush gave us about 1/2 trillion) more poison in the atmosphere, big oil getting richer while the middle class gets poorer then by all means vote for McCain/Palin.

No way will I vote to continue the Bush disaster...

MAKE THE "SARACUDA" AN ENDANGERED SPECIES!!!

Posted by: MEW | September 6, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

If you want a bigger debt (Bush gave us about 1/2 trillion) more poison in the atmosphere, big oil getting richer while the middle class gets poorer then by all means vote for McCain/Palin.

No way will I vote to continue the Bush disaster...

MAKE THE "SARACUDA" AN ENDANGERED SPECIES!!!

Posted by: MEW | September 6, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

"Stories circulating about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false. We distributed more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission. It's disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe how they were being used. We have the utmost respect for the American flag, and it's sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt."
- Democratic National Convention Committee

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

This is what I love to hear...CHANGE happening from the bottom up. The Obama campaign is a community organizing grassroots effort.

Make fun of it all you want Palin and Guiliani, but this is where the real power of the general election comes from, THE VOTERS!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 6, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

john, i have to agree with you that senator mccain does not seem to be running his own campaign. gov. palin's speech smacked of karl rove and many of mccain's comments seemed forced. i think mccain is a good man but it worries me that if he does not have the balls to stand up for what he believes in within his campaign, how on earth is he going to take on the lobbyists and special interests that he rambles on about? and if this is the direction that he wants his campaign to pursue, what happened to treating his opponents with decencyt and running an honest and respectful campaign? either way, he is a colossal disappointment and not the john mccain of old.

Posted by: realitycheck | September 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Heehee! I'm long retired old guy living in "Shady Rest" in the sunny South. On the last night of the Convention I might as well have been at the VFW hall.

McCain came across like a pompous old windbag telling war stories - like he was the only POW, how he "truly" loves America (like the rest of us don't) and that he (alone) is truly her "servant".

Oh give it a rest!

He's a militarist through and through. He believes the military is the answer to all our problems, first, last and always. He reminds me of a mini-man Douglas MacArthur.

When Johnny gets that wistful, far away look in his eyes, deep in his reminiscing about his "old soldier" comrades, he is doing what every old codger does who knows his best days are behind him - he's thinking that, even with the suffering, those POW days were the best days of my life.

PS - I served 11/63 - 11/67. 58,000 kids like me died for nothing.

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse


Best polling sight on the net. Get some real facts.


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/pollster%20ratings

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse


Won't even bother explaining other then that is a lie.

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obama's opposition to the infant protection act, about which he lied initially, is reason enough to disqualify him from any decent American's vote.

Posted by: scott | September 6, 2008 8:43 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Virginia: Your time is now, it is great to here that the Republican party is losing its support and losing to the Democrats. The Republicans do not get that their old fashion views are not adaptive to 2008. Look how divisive and unorganized they were for a modern day era convention.

The Democrats are fresh and are ready to handle 21st century terrorism, Energy efficiency/independence and affordable health care.

Barack the Vote 08'

Posted by: Palin Can't Handle The Heat | September 6, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

house global red house green car we dog german global all speed

Posted by: manjokekeywh | September 6, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

obama's opposition to the infant protection act, about which he lied initially, is reason enough to disqualify him from any decent American's vote.

Posted by: scott | September 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you know what you are looking at. Mccain and Obama were tied two weeks at 45% the same place Mccain is now after all the hoop la. Obama has not lost anything her has gone ahead and moved around between 47 and 50 since his convention. Mccain lost 3 point with the announcement of Palin but has gotten back to where he was. 45% by the way is the highest Mccain has ever been. He got 'NO' BOUNCE FROM THE CONVENTION, ZERO. Now what does he do, that was the big showcase and it seems to have been a bust. He is right back where he was.

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Hey Deep Karen- It looks like other people are becoming more concerned with accomplishment than rhetoric as well- Those styrofoam pillars are exactly what the Emperor would use to construct his castle:

Gallup Daily: Obama’s Edge Shrinks to 2 PointsElection Preferences Nearly Tied Again, 47%-45%USA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama's advantage over John McCain has been shrinking since the start of the Republican National Convention, and is now down to just two percentage points -- 47% to 45% -- too close to call. This is according to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Wednesday through Friday, Sept. 3-5.
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mnjam-

McCain will be 76 in 4 years- there's nothing more independent than a one term president!

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 5:25 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

If you are a viewer of cspan where the camera just stays on and pans around. If you were watchng the republican convention the flags were on the floor and they were trampling around on them.

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Obama camp and nasty democrats threw American Flags in trash after their convention in Denver. A worker in the stadium found them and handed it over to Boys scout.

This affirms the question on Obama's patriotism and loyalty towards America and Americans.

I doubt this guy and seems like a wolf in sheep clothing.

Posted by: Martin | September 6, 2008 8:06 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama camp and nasty democrats threw American Flags in trash after their convention in Denver. A worker in the stadium found them and handed it over to Boys scout.

This affirms the question on Obama's patriotism and loyalty towards America and Americans.

I doubt this guy and seems like a wolf in sheep clothing.

Posted by: Martin | September 6, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

If the Chicago Machine is hard at work, remember
"Vote early and vote often." Al Capone.

"Bop Early and Bop Often." A Carponzo

http://www.boppoll.com

Obama 1,038,291 McCain 446,566

Register to vote at: http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Posted by: RStone | September 6, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama camp and democrats threw American flags in trash after the convention in Denvar. A field worker found the flags and turned them over to boy scouts.

This is rediculous and affirms the question on Obama's patriotism. He doesn;t seems to care about America but only his racist church and his anti-american and beautiful childern.

I doubt that he would care about any of us
God bless America and save us all.

Posted by: Martin | September 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Deep Blue - Your wishful thinking verges on delusional. I too would like Obama to win, but man, I can't agree with your take on things. The republicans are great at playing identity politics, and Obama looks like a rare bird in comparison to their brand of down home family life. It's a shame really, but I fear that the American people will fall for it again. They always do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

McCain's foreign policy approach is dangerous nonsense.

Why?

It's simple really. McCain is still fighting Vietnam. One minute he was top-gunning those "commie gooks" in their cities and rice paddies and the next he was in a prison camp for five and a half years. He's lucky they didn't kill him on the spot. After all, that's what he was doing to them. I'm sure he came home wondering how did we "lose"? After all, we had all the fire power, the carriers, the aircraft, the men, the economics - we were the "super power". I'm sure he thinks we lost because we didn't have the "guts" to pursue "victory". We were "betrayed" by those nasty "librals" "Stabbed in the back" so to speak. Of course we all now know (except maybe for John) that a "commie" Vietnam was no danger to the United States; that their war was one of nationalism vs. colonialism. They fought the Japanese, the French colonialists, then their American successors.

My bedroom set is marked "Made in Vietnam" and American corporations are pouring in for the cheap labor. No labor unions in a commie country you know. What this means is that the 58,000 plus kids that we "honor" on that black wall died for nothing. Most of them died while Nixon talked of "bringing the troops home with honor" When pols use that phrase it means that someone else's kid has to die for an empty slogan.

McCain now seeks "victory" in Iraq. He hasn't learned what the Vietnamese knew all along - eventually you will go home. The Iraqis know it. They are just waiting for us to leave. Absent permanent occupation (not a good idea) the Iraqis will rule themselves. Iraq is a history of coup and counter-coup; of Kings and strongmen. It will be thus after we are gone. The idea that we could implant a Jeffersonian democracy in the heart of the middle-east is ludicrous neo-con nonsense.

I give the government maybe 5 years. Iraq is not a "nation" in the western sense. It was drawn on a map by the British and French after dismenbering the Ottoman Empire. France got modern Syria and Lebanon; the Brits got Iraq, Jordan and the Palestine Mandate (lucky them). Neither country cared exactly who lived within the new borders. The Ottomans ruled Iraq as three "provinces" one each for Sunni, Shia and Kurd. They were smarter than Johnny McCain will ever be.

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Scott,

Typical Republican: Do you own homework! :-)

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

how many of those voters are alive?

After all, Obama is from Chicago

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

At a family wedding can't talk long just checking for a posting of obama's accomplishments...none? Thought so ah well back to the wedding.

Posted by: scott | September 6, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

http://my.barackobama.com/page/m/6f13f7c6bba3c695/ph9VDF/VEsH/

A very interesting clip. Inform yourself and make the right decision.

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 6, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama's probably also winning Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, Indiana and Georgia.

If blacks come out 30% more for Obama than they did for Kerry, and they vote democrats straight down the ticket, that'll also help the close Senate races in Miss, Georgia and NC. We could be looking at 60 dem senate seats.

Anyhow, even in Georgia, which is supposedly the biggest stretch for Obama, look at the numbers: with a model for turnout at 65/28/7 for white/black/latino and with Obama winning 25/95/65, McCain doing 66/3/26 and Barr doing 9/2/9 among those voting blocks then you get to this result: Obama 47.5, McCain 45.5, and Barr 7.

Look at the latest poll from Indiana, a state Bush beat Kerry beat 21pts in. Obama is supposedly down by 2pts.

http://www.howeypolitics.com/2008/09/04/howey-gauge-poll-toplines-aug-29-30/

24. VOTER AGE
18-29 Years 7%
30-44 Years 23%
45-59 Years 35%
60 & Over 34%

They have 5x as many people 60+ as they do 18-29, or so this poll would suggest...

In 2004, the 18-29 % for IN was 14, this year it'll probably be 17.... You gotta love these polls!

Again, I'd say that Obama has the best internal polls, the largest ground operation, a financial advantage, an enthusiasm advantage, the high ground on policy positions. Oh yeah, and he works hard on the weekends too...

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

toritto,

those voters in the rust-belt better check their egos at the door.
Whatever they think of Obama, they better realize he is best equipped to address their problems not McCain. McPalin is running on his biography. Obama is running on the economy.

Posted by: Monster | September 6, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Scott:

Did you have to take up ten miles of board space just to say Obama is bipartisan? I'm an Obama supporter too, but to force everyone to scroll through paragraph after paragraph of the bill is pretty ignorant.

Posted by: aBigSAM | September 6, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

It has been reported over the weekend that the unemployment rose to its hightest level in 5 years and that the Feds will take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before they collapse of their own accord.

Nice going on that deregulation GOP! Free marketeers got any comments?

I'm an old retired guy who doesn
t have to work and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR). I don't think anyone can rationally deney that.

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I don't want to hear anymore whinng from them about their disappearing jobs and livlihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie's "patriotism" put food on your table.

Screw 'ya. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. Stay with that church and keep your weapon. You will need both the soup kitchen and the rifle. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny south on a golf course, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage. I sent my girls to college and they are successfully out on their own. We won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 6, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going win Virginia and Colorado which will lead him to victory.

Posted by: Rell | September 6, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I am enjoying reading all the wonderfully civil discourse in this thread. In ways it's quite refreshing.

However, not one to ever tiptoe around or mince words, I'm not afraid in the least to just say it. The R's have nominated to be POTUS and VPOTUS an old dried up geezer with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel and an airheaded holy roller to run and represent our beloved country. Pshaw! The most pathetic thing about it all is if elected our nation is running headlong into a massive downfall, and they are proud of it, and in fact love it and embrace it.

Yet they holler to the heavens how they love this country and if you're a Democrat (or liberal, whichever) then you don't. Has anybody ever watched Pat Buchanan screaming at the top of his lungs every time he opens his mouth?? If I wanted to be yelled at I'd have joined the Army or would sit every Sunday in Sarah Palin's church. I don't, and the louder somebody feels the need to yell at me the least likely I am ever to stand there and take it. Does that not make sense?

Oh, Georgie Boy, what hath thou wrought?

Posted by: Ellen | September 6, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The more appropriate lipstick quote for Sarah Palin would have been the one about putting lipstick on a pig - put it on as heavy as you want, but you're still left with nothing but pork.

And speaking of pork, it's time for the media to ask Gov. Palin what she did with the money she took for the Bridge to Nowhere, $223m, being that her claim to have told Washington 'No Thanks' was one of her bold faced lies.

Posted by: TW | September 6, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

49k new voters to vote for Palin, LOL- I guess It doesnt Matter. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee., not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world.

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 6, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Sure thing. Of course, the big thing about the article is that it misses the key point: young and black voters are very enthusiastic about Obama, and the vast majority of them didn't need to be asked to register- they've done it themselves. After looking at the voter registration numbers and the data from the primaries you'd think that the pollsters would update their turnout models...

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Deep Blue. I missed the fact that the article said 60,000 "net" voters, instead of "new" voters. Sloppy reading on my part!

Posted by: cagon1012 | September 6, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The gallup poll is meaningless. First, they are doing a poll based on 900 people a night. The Obama campaign contacts tens of thousands of people every day. They have the best numbers. Second, gallup doesn't get a good measure of cellphone users, poor folks who are so bad off that they won't pick up the phone due to fears that it may be a creditor (9% of all mortgages are in foreclosure! hello!). Third, young and black voters are coming out in record numbers for Obama, and today's polling models are outdated and don't reflect that reality. Obama probably has an additional 5-6 points that is not being reflected in polls like Gallup. And, finally, as it should be obvious from 2000, we don't elect POTUS based on your or my vote, it is based on the electoral college. Those are the 538 votes that count. And Obama is getting Kerry's 252, plus Iowa, New Mexico, Colorado and then some. Barring a McCain-style meltdown, Obama is winning this thing. And if McCain makes another knuckleheaded move (like Palin) Obama is winning by 10+ points.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

49k new voters to vote for Palin, LOL- I guess It doesnt Matter. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee., not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain...Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 6, 2008 4:59 PM
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You know, Pastor, I have no doubt that Palin is a good mother (and whatever that may mean, it's completely open to interpretation). I don't care about her family's problems, or how many kids she has. Those aren't issues to me. I've never voted for a candidate because she's a woman, just like I've never voted for a candidate because he's a man--or because he's white, or tall, or any other physical attribute.

What I really care about is open, honest government. Not government conducted in secret. This is something that I've been unhappy about with President Bush's administration--especially as it concerns Dick Cheney. Yes, there are some matters of intelligence that need to be kept secret, but as a rule, I believe government should be carried out in the daylight--because those making the decisions are using our money to do it.

Sarah Palin is probably a good mom, but there are a lot of questions surrounding her actions as both a mayor and a governor that even Republicans in her own state are demanding answers to--and she won't address them.

For example, calling an allegation of abuse of power a "smear" (I'm talking about "Troopergate" here) and refusing to address it only makes the matter worse. Those who initiated the investigation were Republicans in her state legislature, by the way.

Does she reject the "Bridge to Nowhere," or did she encourage it being built? She is on the record in public statements as having done both. Which is it?

And were the police chief and head librarian in Wasila fired for cause, or because they supported her opponent, as they allege? If it was for cause, what was it?

I'm not interested in her kids or her husband's ancient DUI--we've all got skeletons in our closets--I know I do. You take your lumps, fix your problems, and keep going. But these questions go to how she would treat others were she to gain a very significant position of power in this country. I want to know that the person first in line to succeed an aging John McCain wouldn't abuse her office by carrying out petty vendettas.

Sarah Palin has said she doesn't work for the press. I agree. If she is to be elected, though, she has to admit she works for the taxpayers and citizens of the United States--at least half of whom view her previous actions with suspicion. Unfortunately, she has not yet found the courage to openly answer their questions. That's what I'm worried about.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 6, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rich McCabe | September 6, 2008 5:08 PM

Rich McCabe - I completely agree with you, I like the 2000 McCain better too, and felt he would have made a great president. The 08 version is not even close to the real John McCain. It feels like he sold his integrity for votes, and I'm greatly disappointed!

Posted by: John | September 6, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Luthiel- You and Joe Biden feel it's necessary to comment on hygiene as part of your argument....curious?

Corn Ethanol uses 1 unit of petroleum for every one unit it replaces and is 7 time LESS efficient than sugar cane ethano- that's what we call a fact.

Secondly, the use of one of our major sources of food is raising food costs in this country. Is that what your candidate is backing? More global warming and higher food prices? (with all DUE respect)

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey Deep Karen- It looks like other people are becoming more concerned with accomplishment than rhetoric as well- Those styrofoam pillars are exactly what the Emperor would use to construct his castle:

Gallup Daily: Obama’s Edge Shrinks to 2 PointsElection Preferences Nearly Tied Again, 47%-45%USA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama's advantage over John McCain has been shrinking since the start of the Republican National Convention, and is now down to just two percentage points -- 47% to 45% -- too close to call. This is according to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Wednesday through Friday, Sept. 3-5.
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mnjam-

McCain will be 76 in 4 years- there's nothing more independent than a one term president!

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

As for the numbers:

If Obama registers 150k and 75% of them come out to vote then that's 113k new voters.

If 80% of those voters support Obama and 20% of those voters support McCain, then Obama wins 90 thousand new voters and McCain wins 22 thousand new voters.

That means that Obama wins 68 thousand more voters than McCain does by registering those 150 thousand voters.

Of course, the assumptions are key. The notion that 75% of new voters will come out in ok. The idea that 80% of them will support Obama is also ok, assuming they are from his targeted demographic of young and black voters.

What this article doesn't mention is that the most enthusiastic voters are the ones the campaign didn't need to sign up. The numbers of young and black people who are motivated, and who signed themselves up to vote... that's the key demographic slice.

The bottom line is that today's polls don't use turnout models that match the likely result. The last poll I saw of Virginia was unbelievably off.

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/story.aspx?sid=518

It has a tie, but has blacks as 20% of the electorate (they were more for Kerry, John Kerry!) coming out at 57% (and they went for Kerry at 88%).

Obama's internal polls are the best numbers. McCain's are probably the next best thing- and they caused him to freak out last week and pick Palin.

Obama is winning this thing. McCain screwed up Iowa (ethanol), New Mexico and Colorado (water rights). Add those to Kerry's 252 electoral votes and it's over. Plus Obama has other options: Virginia, Ohio, Florida, No Carolina, Indiana, Georgia, Nevada, Missouri, etc.

McCain is going to get smoked.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

How many illegals applied for a voting card this time...did anyone run the applications to see if they are legal?

Posted by: Dwight | September 6, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I suppose I am secretly hoping some of his move to the Right has been, as it was with Bill Clinton, in hope of getting elected. I see him appointing Souters and O'Connors. Anyway- you asked- I believe we might get our points accross better with civil discourse....but one way or the other, I see it as my responsibilty to my family to do my part in trying to prevent what I believe is a reenactment of "The Empereror's New Clothes".

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 4:48 PM

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Your are dreaming.

The same right wing that dictated McCain's VP pick will dictate his SCOTUS picks.

The same tired 72 year old who is running purely on personal ego will give in.

Posted by: mnjam | September 6, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I have been an indepndent over the years including voting for Perot twice. I have been in McCain' corners in 2000 but saw how he move to Bush's base and the religious right to get the 2008 nomination.
This disturbed me but not enogh to move away from him. However afyer opposing the Bush tax cut which really hurt the middle class and then moving behind it along with other flip flops I move to Hillary.
With her out, I reconsidered McCain but, his view of the economy and the middleclass disturbs me. Also his lying about the Obama position on taxes and other issues has sawaye me to say the straight talk express is derailed. Its all about sarcasim and misrepresentation to win. Too bad we lost the McCain of 2000 he would have made a great president.

Posted by: Rich McCabe | September 6, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little confused by the numbers in your article. The article states that Obama is trying to register 150,000 new voters, hoping that 80% will be voting for him, and of that 80% he is hoping that 75% will make it to the polls to actually vote. This is supposed to result in 60,000 new voters for Obama. But the math doesn't work: 80% of 150,000 voters is 120,000. 75% of 120,000 voters is 90,000 voters, not the 60,000 voters you state in your article. Am I missing something?

By the way, I may have accidently posted this comment twice -- if I have, please accept my apologies!

Posted by: cagon1012 | September 6, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Scott -- Obama, on the other hand supports important renewable energy legislation like the Renewable Energy Tax credit. McCain has opposed it every time it hit the Senate floor. He's anti-alternatives in his voting record and a far worse choice on the issue than Obama.

As for ethanol, its production replaces more than 35 billion dollars of oil imports every year. That's money that stays in our economy and supports American jobs and the value of the dollar at a time of economic crisis. Cut ethanol production and watch the value of the dollar fall and oil prices rise. Furthermore, the cost of ethanol on the market is competitive with gasoline and the US produces over 600,000 barrels of ethanol each day -- more than even Brazil.

As for energy return on energy invested -- its better than gasoline as it adds sunlight to the process and doesn't require as much petroleum or fossil fuel inputs. That study from Pimentel you are quoting is outdated.

Finally, your vicious attacks on the ideas of those who do not agree with you tend to fall directly in line with the poor behaviour, taste, and lack of personal integrity your political party has shown over the past decade. So keep drinking the Koolaid, watching Fox News, and spewing out the propaganda. But also know you're not fooling anyone but yourself.

Posted by: Luthiel | September 6, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

49k new voters to vote for Palin, LOL- I guess It doesnt Matter. It wouldnt change my opionion though, I think Sarah Palin Should be the GOP nominee., not McCain. The Republicans are much more excited about palin then mccain., The new most famous person in the world.

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 6, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Young people could very well save our country in this election.

I agree with much of what John said below. I think our nation craves a healer at this time. I don't desire to continue fighting with my neighbors--instead, I'd like to get something done for the benefit of the whole country. Republicans need health care just as badly as Democrats or Independents do--that's just one example, and it's an immediate one.

John McCain at one time worked "across the aisle," but he has abandoned or repudiated many of the causes he himself championed in order to gain his party's nomination. Probably a good enough guy, but I want someone who will pull us together--not just domestically, but internationally.

I respected what I heard Obama say during his party's convention. He was tough, but he was respectful. I'm going with a candidate who believes in community service, who has a policy program I (for the most part) support, and who can be a healer. For me, that's Obama.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 6, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Scott,

Believe what you want for you and your family, but McCain is crooked.

His relationship with Keating in the 80s was no more a fluke than his ditching his first wife to marry into that Arizona network. And when he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, to the tune of $112k that he never reported to the IRS (think you could get away with that?), then he became a "reformer."

His pick of Palin was a stupid, reckless, cynical crap shoot of a pick that shows just how badly he makes decisions.

Seriously though, are you trying to tell me that *McCain is NOT nuts?*

Who the heck tried to marry into the mob to use that as a springboard to a political career? Did you read that article? He's nuts!

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Deep-
First of all, it's refreshing to read something you've written that doesn't sound like every smear email I get from both sides. I am not endangering anything by providing my honest opinion, but thank you for the compliment on my powers of persuasion. I have a family, and I have not been convinced from word one that Obama can deliver much of what he promises. To be fair, he has no record of Accomplishment, other than good grades, job interviews and elections. I have been introduced to no families he helped as an organizer, no scholarly works of note as a law professor, and no really significant laws as a senator. His ethics bill makes it forbidden for lobbyists to sit with Senators, but not for them to stand and have lunch together (inserting index finger inside cheek and pulling)....and I don't see many terrorists in former soviet states handing their loose nukes into Sen. Lugar....so I'm betting my families future on walk not talk. McCain is the most middle of the road republican for whom I can vote. He has shown independence and good judgement in most of his 26 years in the Senate. I suppose I am secretly hoping some of his move to the Right has been, as it was with Bill Clinton, in hope of getting elected. I see him appointing Souters and O'Connors. Anyway- you asked- I believe we might get our points accross better with civil discourse....but one way or the other, I see it as my responsibilty to my family to do my part in trying to prevent what I believe is a reenactment of "The Empereror's New Clothes".

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin 09

The choice is clear for those who open their eyes.

Posted by: RepinDC | September 6, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: mgultch | September 6, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

After watching the two conventions, I came away with one very important, deciding factor in my mind - Leadership.

I've always liked John McCain, and truly believe he has America's best interest at heart. However, after watching the RNC, I came away feeling like there was a lack of sincerity in that convention. There were two days of mudslinging, and divisive comments and insults hurled towards our already divided country.

McCain then makes his speech on the last night, claiming to want to unite America, and "reach out across the aisle" to Democrats. He also claims to want to reform the old politics of "Washington".

His personal story was touching, but his message felt insincere and hypocritical, after what I witnessed the nights before. After watching the whole convention, I felt like McCain is not running the show in his campaign, and is simply going along with what is being planned by others for him - not a good sign of a strong leader, in my opinion.

On the flip side, the DNC felt more consistent. Yes, there were a few insults thrown in here and there, but I heard more praising of McCain than personal insults. With speaker after speaker all the way to Obama, I heard a theme of wanting to unite the country - politically and culturally.

I wasn't all that convinced with Obama at first, but after watching the DNC, and what I felt was sincereness to really better our country, I realized that in Obama's camp, he is the one leading leading the campaign, and not the other way around. This observation eases my mind a lot about his abilities to lead our country, and I think my vote will be heading in his direction. Not unless, something about him is revealed in the next 2 months.

I know many will agree with me, and many others won't, and that's fine. But I thought I'd share my personal observations of both conventions, to those that don't necessarily vote according to party lines, but are really making a responsible effort to rationally select the person best to help our country. This year, I think it's Obama.

Posted by: John | September 6, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Scott,

If you have a wonderfully fulfilling life then why are you endangering America by supporting Republicans that want to lie, cheat, and steal our country into subservience to China?

What is it about education and health care for the lower and middle classes that is so un-American? McCain's supposed hero, TR, wanted universal health care over 100 years ago.

If we don't re-engineer our educational system the Chinese are going to eat our lunch. Do you really want America to become as Singapore's PM put it "Asia's poor white trash"?

Out with the crooks. In with policies that are in America's best long-term interests.

If you're a smart guy, you'll get that. If you're just a narrow-minded, selfish, out-for-himself SOB then... good luck to you and your wonderfully fulfilling life.

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Karen- Would that be CORN ethanol that Obama supported in Cheney's Bill?

Karen how efficient is corn vs sugar cane ethanol?

Answer- Corn ethanol require 1 unit of petroleum for every unit it replaces and is 7 times less efficient than sugar cane ethanol, WHICH McCAIN SUPPORTS!

BUT Obama owes it to Illinois farmers to push global warming and HIGHER FOOD PRICES, right?

Karen- I have a wonderfully fulfilling life, thanks for your concern- and you?

Posted by: Scott | September 6, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Scott, you really need to get a life. That Energy plan included billion for renewable energy. The largest amount in our nations history. The new solar, wind and ethonal projects were funded by that legislation and adding thousands of new jobs to the country. The Republicans were going to get the tax cuts for the oil companies with our with out Obama, but at least he did something by adding the tax incentives to the renewable energy sector by 2000%. What did John McCain do?

Posted by: Karen | September 6, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Voters of Virginia,

The New York Times did an investigation into the family that Sen. McCain, as a 40yr old adult, decided to marry into as a launching pad for his political career.

Bonanno "retired" out in Arizona.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Voters of Virginia, were you aware that Sen. McCain ditched his first wife to marry into an organized crime family?

http://www.girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-mccain-and-mob.html

Posted by: Deep Blue | September 6, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Voters of Virginia- Did you know that Barack Obama supported Dick Cheney's 2005 Energy Act?

John McCain went against his party and Bush and voted AGAINST it!

Here's what this bill included according to an impartial website-

Public Citizen on the Cheney- Obama supported 2005 Energy bill

"The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy: Summary of Industry Giveaways in the 2005 Energy Bill


On August 8, 2005, President Bush signed into the law the energy bill; on July 28,the U.S. House of Representatives voted 275 to 156 to approve the energy bill; and on July 29, the U.S. Senate voted 74 to 26 to approve the energy bill.

Since 2001, energy corporations have showered federal politicians with $115 million in campaign contributions—with three-quarters of that amount going to Republicans. This cash helped secure energy companies and their lobbyists exclusive, private access to lawmakers, starting with Vice-President Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force, whose report provided the foundation of the energy bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on August 8.

This energy bill will do nothing to address America’s energy problems; rather, it will make matters worse. The United States is one of the largest producers of energy—for example, we are the third-largest producer of crude oil in the world—so our problem is not that we don’t produce enough energy, but that our rates of consumption are among the highest of all countries. Our economic competitors in Europe and Asia typically use half the energy per person than we do, which helps explain why the United States alone uses 25% of the world’s energy every day. Reflecting the fact that energy companies helped write the legislation, the energy bill lavishes these lucrative corporations with billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies, while doing little to curb energy demand.

In addition to providing billions of dollars to already wealthy oil, nuclear and coal companies, the energy bill abandons consumers by repealing the Public Utility Holding Company Act (PUHCA), one of the most effective consumer and protection laws governing the power sector. With this law now gone, investment banks, hedge funds, insurance companies and oil companies will now be allowed to own utilities, giving these new corporate owners license to raid the utilities’ guaranteed revenue streams for use in leveraging non-utility acquisitions, opening the door to price-gouging of ratepayers.

Below is a summary of the major components of the energy legislation:

OIL & GAS SUBSIDIES: $6 BILLION
Section 1329
Allows “geological and geophysical” costs associated with oil exploration to be written off faster than present law, costing taxpayers over $1.266 billion from 2007-2015. The provision claims to raise $292 million from 2005-06, and cost taxpayers $1.266 billion from 2007-2015. It originated in the House (there was no such provision in the original Senate bill). Record-high oil prices should provide a sufficient incentive for oil companies like ExxonMobil to drill for more oil without this huge new tax break.

Section 1323
Allows owners of oil refineries to expense 50% of the costs of equipment used to increase the refinery’s capacity by at least 5%, costing taxpayers $842 million from 2006-11 (the estimate claims the provision will actually raise $436 million from 2012-15). This provision was added by the Senate. Record high prices for oil and gasoline, and record profits by refiners like ExxonMobil and Valero should provide all the incentive needed to expand refinery capacity without this huge tax break.

Sections 1325-6
This tax break allows natural gas companies to save $1.035 billion by depreciating their property at a much faster rate. This tax break makes no economic sense, as natural gas prices remain at record high levels, and these high prices—not tax breaks—should be all the incentive the industry needs to invest in gathering and distribution lines.

Section 342
Allows oil companies drilling on public land to pay taxpayers in oil rather than in cash.

Sections 344-345
Waives royalty payments for drilling for some natural gas in the Gulf of Mexico.

Section 346
Waives royalty payments for drilling in offshore Alaska.

Sections 353-4
Waives royalty payments for gas hydrate extraction on the Outer Continental Shelf and public land in Alaska.

Section 383
Allows oil companies drilling in federal land off the coast of a particular state to pay the state 44 cents of every dollar it would have paid to the federal government for the privilege of drilling on federal land.

The royalty-in-kind provisions in this section allow corporations drilling for oil on public land to forgo paying cash royalties to taxpayers. Instead, companies provide an amount of the oil as an in-kind contribution to the federal government. Since federal land supplies one-third of the oil and gas produced in the United States, expansion of this program could have a significant impact on the federal treasury.

This proposal has its origins in Bush’s National Energy Policy, which requested that the Secretary of the Interior “explore opportunities for royalty reductions.”

A recent Government Accountability Office (GAO) report, however, criticizes the current royalty-in-kind program, concluding that the government is unable to determine whether taxpayers receive a fair shake from the program. For example, the GAO notes that the pilot program currently “relies upon royalty payors to self-report the amount of oil and gas they produce, the value of this oil and gas, and the cost of transportation and processing that they deduct from royalty payments” (emphasis added). The reporting system caused the GAO to express concern about “the accuracy and reliability of these data.”

Indeed, the industry’s cheerleading for the royalty in-kind program stems from recent court decisions that found U.S. oil companies, equipped with an “honor system” self-reporting system, routinely underreported the volume of oil and natural gas removed from taxpayer land, therefore allowing the companies to cheat the public. By seeking to end cash payments for the privilege of drilling on public land altogether, it appears as though the oil companies are attempting to hedge their losses from the embarrassing court decisions.

In 1998, the Mineral Management Service estimated that similar provisions would cost taxpayers between $140 million and $367 million every year.

There was a vote on April 21 in the House to strike the section providing a suspension of royalty payments for offshore oil and gas production in the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) in the Gulf of Mexico, but it failed, 227 to 203.

Title IX, Subtitle J
This section would provide $1.5 billion in direct payments to oil and natural gas corporations to drill in deepwater wells. This section is a pet project of Texas Republican and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. It would designate a private entity, Sugar Land-based Texas Energy Center, as the “program consortium” to dole out taxpayer money to corporations. The Texas Energy Center has strong ties to Tom DeLay, with six different executives (Herbert W. Appel, Jr., Robert C. Brown, III, Philip E. Lewis, Thomas Moccia, Ronald E. Oligney, and Barry Ashlin Williamson) giving a total of $8,000 to DeLay’s campaign since March 2004. In addition, three of the Center’s executives have given a total of $4,500 to President Bush’s 2004 re-election effort.

The Center’s lobbyist is Barry Ashlin Williamson. In 1988, Williamson went to work for the Reagan administration and became principal advisor to the U.S. Secretary of Energy in the creation and formulation of a national energy policy. President George H.W. Bush later chose him to be the U.S. Department Interior’s Director of the Minerals Management Service, which managed oil and gas exploration and production on the nation’s 1.4 billion-acre continent shelf. Williamson then served as Chairman of the Texas Railroad Commission from January 1993 to November 1995.

The Texas Energy Center will play host to The Research Partnership to Secure Energy for America, whose members include Halliburton and Marathon Oil.

OIL & GAS REGULATORY ROLLBACKS
Section 322
Exempts from the Safe Drinking Water Act a coalbed methane drilling technique called “hydraulic fracturing,” a potential polluter of underground drinking water. One of the largest companies employing this technique is Halliburton, for which Vice President Richard Cheney acted as chief executive officer in the 1990s. This exemption would kill lawsuits by Western ranchers who say that drilling for methane gas pollutes groundwater by injecting contaminated fluids underground. Only 16 companies stand to significantly benefit from this exemption from clean water laws: Anadarko, BP, Burlington Resources, ChevronTexaco, ConocoPhillips, Devon Energy, Dominion Resources, EOG Resources, Evergreen Resources, Halliburton, Marathon Oil, Oxbow (Gunnison Energy), Tom Brown, Western Gas Resources, Williams Cos and XTO. These companies gave nearly $15 million to federal candidates—with more than three-quarters of that total going to Republicans. Moreover, the 16 companies spent more than $70 million lobbying Congress.

Section 323
Provides an exemption for oil and gas companies from the Federal Water Pollution Control Act for their construction activities surrounding oil and gas drilling.

Section 311
The section severely limits the ability of local communities and states to have adequate say over the siting of controversial Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) facilities. The section states that the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) “shall have the exclusive authority to approve or deny an application for the siting, construction, expansion, or operation of an LNG terminal” under the Natural Gas Act (emphasis added).

The language is clearly aimed at a July 2004 lawsuit filed by the State of California claiming that FERC illegally ruled in March 2004 that states have limited jurisdiction over the permitting and siting of LNG facilities inside their borders. The lawsuit is being closely watched by other states, where officials have expressed alarm about the inability of state and local governments to have adequate input into these projects. LNG projects are particularly controversial because liquefied natural gas is extremely volatile and dangerous. Even if one supports increasing the number of LNG terminals in North America, there is absolutely no justification for limiting the ability of states and local communities to have control over the permitting and siting of these facilities. (See our Liquid Natural Gas section.)

LNG proponents claim that states still can veto LNG projects, as they retain jurisdiction over the facilities under the Coastal Zone Management Act, the Clean Air Act and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act. But these three acts have very limited jurisdiction (for example, LNG facilities don’t really pollute the water or air, so states have no real ability to raise objections under these laws). The broadest possible law is the Natural Gas Act, so it is no surprise that natural gas companies and their allies in Congress pushed to give FERC “exclusive authority” under the one law (Natural Gas Act) with the most sweeping power.

Language added during the conference committee (meaning it wasn’t in either the original House or Senate bills) gives the Department of Defense veto authority over LNG projects proposed near military bases, directing FERC to “enter into a memorandum of understanding with the Secretary of Defense for the purpose of ensuring that [FERC] coordinate and consult with the Secretary of Defense on the siting, construction, expansion, or operation of liquefied natural gas facilities that may affect an active military installation.” FERC is further required to “obtain the concurrence of the Secretary of Defense before authorizing the siting, construction, expansion, or operation of liquefied natural gas facilities affecting the training or activities of an active military installation” (emphasis added).

But a similar proposal in the Senate to provide states with these exact rights now given to the DoD was rejected by a vote of 52 to 45 (a “yea” vote is bad, in that it was a vote to kill, or table, the amendment that would have forced FERC to get the approval of states to permit LNG facilities).

The House also rejected an amendment that would have removed this section entirely, thereby preserving the status quo and allowing the state of California to continue its challenge in federal court (so an “aye” vote is good, as it was to remove the entire LNG section).

Section 357
Authorizes a survey of the oil and natural gas available underwater off the coasts of states. This is the first step in opening these areas to more drilling. There was an amendment to strike this language that failed 52 to 44.

Section 390
Increases the ability to exclude a broad range of oil and gas exploration and drilling activities from public involvement and impact analysis under the National Environmental Policy Act.

Section 381
Limits the ability of states to protect their coastlines from oil and gas exploration by limiting their appeals process under the Coastal Zone Management Act.

Section 369
Mandates that the federal government make available oil shale and tar sands extraction on federal land for oil companies.

COAL SUBSIDIES: $9 BILLION
Section 1307
Provides $1.612 billion in tax credits to invest in new coal power plants.

Section 1309
Provides $1.147 billion in tax breaks for owners of coal power plants to install pollution control equipment.

Section 401
Authorizes the appropriation of $1.8 billion of taxpayer money to help build a new fleet of coal power plants.

Section 421
Authorizes the appropriation of $3 billion of taxpayer money to help build a new fleet of coal power plants.

Section 962
Authorizes activities that will cost $1.137 billion of taxpayer money to help make coal power a cost-competitive source of power generation.

Section 963
Authorizes the appropriation of $90 million to research ways to sequester carbon dioxide emitted from coal power plants.

Section 964
Authorizes activities that will cost $75 million to help develop new coal mining technologies.

Title XVII
Authorizes spending of hundreds of millions of dollars in loan guarantees to build new coal and nuclear power plants. The Senate voted on June 23 by a vote of 76 to 21 to keep this section in the bill.

Section 411
Provides taxpayer-guaranteed loans for a coal project. The most likely beneficiaries of this provision are North Dakota-based Basin Electric Power Cooperative and Ohio-based Nacco Industries. Basin Electric Power Cooperative owns the Great Plains Synfuels facility in Beulah, North Dakota, an alternative fuels plant originally financed mostly by the federal government and later sold to the Cooperative for a fraction of the amount invested in the plant. The plant gasifies lignite coal to produce synthetic natural gas as well as fertilizers and other chemicals. Nacco Industries would benefit from the loan guarantees because it has long-term contracts to supply Basin Electric with lignite from the nearby Freedom Mine, which Nacco owns. In addition, Basin Electric and Nacco Industries co-own the Antelope Valley Station, a coal-fired power plant at the same location as the Great Plains Synfuel Plant and the Freedom Mine. Since 2001, Basin Electric and Nacco Industries have contributed over $100,000 to federal politicians, with contributions evenly split between Republicans (51%) and Democrats (49%).

Section 412
Lends $80 million to the Healy Plant in Alaska to convert an existing “clean coal” plant into a regulator coal plant.

Section 413
Senator Larry Craig, on behalf of Senator Ken Salazar, got Section 413 into the energy bill by unanimous consent on June 23. Corporate lobbyists representing Pacificorp and Xcel recommended the language to Sen. Salazar. While the intended recipient may be Pacificorp and/or Xcel (for unannounced projects), another company qualifying for the loan guarantee is the Medicine Bow Fuel & Power project in Wyoming (the section requires that the project “be located in a western State at an altitude greater than 4,000 feet”) The section explicitly states that “the demonstration project shall not be eligible for Federal loan guarantees”—making the relationship between this section and the very similar-sounding loan guarantee project outlined in Section 1703 a little unclear. Medicine Bow, Wyoming is at an altitude of over 6,500 feet. Medicine Bow is owned by DKRW, a Houston-based firm led by four former Enron executives, including Thomas White. White served as Secretary of the Army from May 2001 to March 2003. Prior to that, he served as vice chairman of one of Enron’s largest divisions, Enron Energy Services (EES).

Under White’s tenure, EES played a major role in the California energy crisis. In 1998, the year he became its vice chairman, EES was America’s 61st largest energy trader. When he left, his division was the 28th largest energy-trading firm in the country. Until March 2001, the trading operations of EES were separate from the rest of Enron’s Wholesale Energy unit—meaning White was responsible for a huge trading operation that played a significant role in California’s energy crisis.

Also, under White’s direction, EES severed at least two large retail contracts in California in January and February 2001 during the height of the energy crisis, which Enron helped create. Based on the evidence on hand, it appears that EES took the power that had been obligated to serve these retail consumers and sold it in the wholesale market where EES could fetch higher prices than it could by continuing to sell power at lower, fixed rates to retail customers. This significant wholesale trading operation, combined with White’s decision to break retail contracts in California, made the division a major player in California’s deregulated wholesale market.

Section 414
The recipient of Section 414, has not yet been identified. The provision authorizes the federal government “to provide loan guarantees for a project to produce energy from a plant using integrated gasification combined cycle technology of at least 400 megawatts in capacity that produces power at competitive rates in deregulated energy generation markets and that does not receive any subsidy (direct or indirect) from ratepayers.”

Section 415
This section provides “loan guarantees for at least 5 petroleum coke gasification projects” which have not been identified.

Section 1703
Subsection (c)(1)(B) describes a project almost exactly the same as what is described in Section 413, except that the demonstration project grant outlined in Section 413 does not allow the recipient to also receive a loan guarantee. So, the most likely recipients are the former Enron executives with DKRW or Xcel Energy.

Subsection (c)(1)(C) provides $800 million in federal loan guarantees to controversial Excelsior Energy for a coal power-generating plant (ConocoPhillips is a partner in the project). The DOE awarded the company a $36 million in October 2004 during an event that appeared to be designed to boost the image of President Bush in Minnesota just weeks before the election.

Subsection (c)(1)(D). There are two general possibilities for the recipient of this federal loan guarantee. One could be Lexington, Kentucky-based EnviRes to build a coal gasification facility to create fuel in East St. Louis, Illinois. The total cost of the project is $254.2 million. EnviRes is a joint venture of three companies, including Triad Research, which is controlled by Robert Addington of AEI Resources, a huge coal conglomerate.

The other possibility is Pennsylvania-based Waste Management & Processors Inc. On October 26, the Bush Administration announced a $100 million grant for a “clean coal” project in the swing state of Pennsylvania, benefiting Waste Management, headed by John Rich. His family and company employees have contributed over $60,000 to candidates for federal office since 2001.

While Waste Management is the lead company on the project, they have teamed up with several other companies: (1) Shell Global Solutions U.S., as gasification technology supplier; (2) Uhde GmbH, a Dortmund, Germany-based global engineering company; (3) Sasol Synfuels International, as liquefaction technology provider; and, (4) Nexant, Inc., as owner’s engineer.

NUCLEAR POWER SUBSIDIES: $12 BILLION
Section 1306
Production tax credit of 1.8-cent for each kilowatt-hour of nuclear-generated electricity from new reactors during the first eight years of operation, costing $5.7 billion in revenue losses to the U.S. Treasury through 2025. Considered one of the most important subsidies by the nuclear industry.

Section 638
Authorization of $2 billion in “risk insurance” to pay the industry for any delays in construction and operation licensing for six new reactors, including delays due to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission or state agencies, litigation, sabotage or terrorist attacks, or other events. The payments would include interest on loans, operation and maintenance costs, the price of power, and taxes.

Section 951 and Section 952
Authorization of more than $432 million over three years for nuclear energy research and development (R&D), including the Department of Energy's (DOE) Nuclear Power 2010 program to construct new nuclear plants, and its Generation IV program to develop new reactor designs.

Section 951 and Section 953
Authorization of $580 million over three years for DOE’s program for R&D of nuclear reprocessing and transmutation technologies, which reverses the long-standing U.S. policy against irradiated nuclear fuel reprocessing and needlessly augments security and environmental threats.

Section 951 and 954
Authorization of $149.7 million over three years for DOE to invest in human resources and infrastructure in the nuclear sciences and engineering fields through fellowships and visiting scientist programs; student training programs; collaborative research with industry, national laboratories, and universities; upgrading and sharing of research reactors; and technical assistance. This program would further subsidize the nuclear industry and entrench nuclear power research within the university system.

Section 951 and 955
Authorization of $420 million over three years for DOE to develop a plan to improve infrastructure at national laboratories and for nuclear energy R&D, including a plan for the facilities at the Idaho National Laboratory.

Section 951 and 957
Authorization of $18 million over three years for DOE to survey industrial applications of radioactive sources and develop a R&D plan for developing small particle accelerators.

Section 971 and 972
Authorization of $1.1 billion over three years for the Fusion Energy Sciences program for fusion energy R&D. Authorization for DOE to negotiate an agreement for the United States to participate in the ITER (International Fusion Energy Project). Requirement of DOE to submit a plan for a domestic burning plasma experiment if ITER becomes “unlikely or infeasible.” The fusion process requires deuterium and tritium, and would produce low-level radioactive waste.

Section 1001
Requirement of DOE to use 0.9 % of its applied energy R&D budget for matching funds with private partners to promote “promising technologies” for commercial use, which could include nuclear power technologies.

Section 1101
Authorization of $60 million over three years for DOE to give grants to train technical personnel in fields in which a shortage is identified, including the nuclear power industry, which has been very vocal about its shortage of skilled workers.

Title VI, Subtitle C
Authorization of more than $1.25 billion from FY2006 to FY2015 and “such sums as are necessary” from FY2016 to FY2021 for a nuclear plant in Idaho to generate hydrogen fuel, a boondoggle that would make a mockery of clean energy goals.

Section 625
Exemption of construction and operation license applications for new nuclear reactors from an NRC antitrust review.

Title XVII
Unlimited taxpayer-backed loan guarantees for up to 80% of the cost of an “innovative” energy technology project, including building new nuclear power plants. Authorizes “such sums as are necessary,” but if Congress were to appropriate funding for loan guarantees covering six nuclear reactors, this subsidy could potentially cost taxpayers approximately $6 billion (assuming a 50% default rate and construction cost per plant of $2.5 billion, as Congressional Budget Office has estimated).

Title VI, Subtitle A
Reauthorization of the Price-Anderson Act, extending the industry’s liability cap to cover new nuclear power plants built in the next 20 years.

Section 608
Incentives for “modular” reactor designs (such as the pebble bed reactor, which has never been built anywhere in the world) by allowing a combination of smaller reactors to be considered one unit, thus lowering the amount that the nuclear operator is responsible to pay under Price-Anderson.

ELECTRIC POWER SUBSIDIES
Section 1308
Will allow a monopoly electric industry to save $1.239 billion over the next ten years by depreciating property at a much faster rate. This makes no economic sense because current owners of transmission lines qualify for the tax break, meaning that no additional investment to improve reliability is required.

Section 1305
Provides $452 million in tax breaks to owners of transmission lines from 2005-08 (it will raise $471 million from 2009-15) if they sell their lines to anti-consumer Regional Transmission Organizations. These multi-state organizations seek to control transmission for use by power marketers, and not for consumers or reliability.

Section 1311
This is a provision inserted by Senator Max Baucus, and it only benefits one company: Xcel Energy. It will cost taxpayers $134 million from 2006-08 (and claims to raise $81 million from 2009-15, for a net loss to taxpayers of $53 million). This allows Xcel to get tax credits for transmission and pollution control investments the company had already been required to make and was already planning on making.

OTHER INDUSTRY BENEFITS IN ELECTRICITY TITLE
Section 1221: Siting of Interstate Electric Transmission Facilities
Overturns nearly a century of local control over the siting of electric transmission lines. It authorizes the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) to overrule local and state governments in the siting of transmission lines and allows such projects to acquire rights-of-way through eminent domain. The section also authorizes the FERC to issue a permit for a facility if a state takes longer than one year to review the application, or if a state places certain conditions on the permit for approval.

Section 1241: Transmission Rate Reform
Allows a monopoly industry—transmission line owners—to charge consumers more by replacing cost-of-service ratemaking with incentive-based rate making. But cash “incentives” are meaningless in an inherently monopolistic industry like transmission. Rather than improve reliability (as is its stated purpose), this incentive-based ratemaking will simply act as a tax increase on consumers—with consumers receiving no guarantee that the higher rates they will be paying will lead to better service. This rate increase on consumers will be charged not only by builders of new transmission lines, but owners of existing lines will be able to now pass on higher rates for routine maintenance and operation costs. The August 2003 blackout was caused not by inadequate transmission line capacity but by poor management...

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