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Updated 2:35 p.m.
By Ed O'Keefe
Barack Obama today started airing new Spanish-language television and radio ads in Colorado, Florida, Nevada and New Mexico, the "Latino Quartet" of states that could help tip the scales in his favor -- or John McCain's -- in November.

"For the thousands of parents who are left unemployed, for all the families at risk of losing their homes, for each child of the 45 million people who don't have health insurance, how is it possible that John McCain could opine, 'The fundamentals of our economy are strong'?" asks the television ad's announcer in Spanish. "Perhaps John McCain and the Republicans don't want to preoccupy themselves with the prosperity of our families. But for us, there's no greater obligation."

A companion radio ad (click here for audio) plays the same McCain "fundamentals" clip and later asserts, in the Florida version of the spot: "John McCain and the Republicans have no clue about the struggles of the middle class and working people. We have the highest unemployment in Florida in 13 years. Forty-five million people are without health insurance. Nine thousand five hundred homes are being foreclosed every day. In Florida, 1,400 families lose their homes on a daily basis. But John McCain and Republicans want to continue George Bush's same failed policies that led us to this collapse. How can McCain and the Republicans fix our economy if they don't know it's broken?"

Both the Obama and McCain campaigns have stepped up advertising efforts on Latino television and radio stations in Colorado, Florida, Nevada and New Mexico, four competitive states with substantial Latino populations that Latino political observers believe could make the difference in November. The new Obama radio ad will also air on Spanish-language stations in Northern Virginia, home to a growing Latino population that Democrats hope can help them win the state's electoral votes for the first time since 1964.

Spanish ads by both campaigns repeatedly refer to "us," meaning members of the Latino community, and they strike a more serious tone than English-language commercials.

Ads produced in English by the Obama campaign last week contained similar messages but used humor to mock McCain's "fundamentals" comment. The Spanish versions suggest there is "no greater obligation" than looking out for one's family -- speaking to the importance placed on family by Latinos.

The McCain campaign responded to the new ads by citing some of Obama's recent Senate votes. "Instead of playing politics, Barack Obama should answer to the Latino community about why he voted to raise taxes on people making as little as $42,000 a year -- a vote that would have meant higher taxes on millions of Hispanics," said former U.S. treasurer Rosario Marin in a statement released by the McCain campaign. Marin referred to votes Obama cast earlier this year on the Fiscal Year 2009 budget resolution that would have allowed 2001 and 2003 tax cuts to expire, meaning lower-income adults would pay more in taxes.

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To Manolete again:

This is the article I meant to post on Palin's most atrocious record as Mayor of Wasilla
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/21/palin.rape.exams/index.html

To James:
Your comment, "Illegal immigrants is one of the main reasons we are in this mess with mortgages because banks gave them loans and then they up and leave when they can't pay. Illegal criminals is what i like to call them because they feed on billions of free money our government gives them and then us American citizens have to flip their bill...I don't feel our tax money should be used to help pay these mortgages off because at least half the people are hispanic and are here illegally."

Illegal immigrants here are underpaid, abused and sacrificed at the expense of big corporations that most Republicans Congressmen feed off of. NAFTA was mangled by Republicans...if it had been a better legislation benefiting Mexico more than it currently does, Our multilateralism in economic relations stands in the way of progress. It is beneficisl for these corporations to keep prices low. Your Republican counterparts do nothing more than stoke xenophobia by perpetuating the idea that jobs are being lost to foreigners while they do absolutely nothing to engage or improve economic relations with Mexico and the rest of L.A. They profit from their underhanded, doublespeaking ways.

Posted by: Someone Latina | September 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

To Manolete:

McCain puts campaign first. This crotchety old man with his equally fraud VP are dishonorable.

You say they give hope to the future of America, most of the world disagrees with you:
http://www.economist.com/vote2008/

You say Obama is elitist?
Quite frankly I would rather have an honest, eloquent, intelligent President than a crotchety old man that hasn't got his facts straight and is skirting the media's blows. McCain/Palin are full of blarney, they give people like you what you want to hear. I for one am glad you left the Democratic Party when Clinton wasn't selected VP, we don't need people like you.

Your comment, "The Latino community is afraid of Obama's true intentions of black supremacy and the return to a welfare State for blacks and they believe John McCain will better serve the working class that struggles to better their lives. The Latino community also Loves Sarah Palin, a woman reformer that is human, caring, sensitive and honest." and you're belief that Obama considers himself the Messiah... I challenge you to specify in what way(s) Palin is a reformer? It is bull crap. She is popular because she gives back her population oil money that the rest of the country doesn't get. Palin is a disgrace - rape per capita in Alaska is the highest in the country, even the foreign media is uncovering her hypocritical ways. She doesn't care for women rights.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/3063657/Sarah-Palins-Alaskan-town-charged-rape-victims-for-examinations.html

Palin believes in sex abstinence while the medical community says it does not work - and she has obvious proof with her daughter being pregnant. Then she doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape/incest. Sure the conservatives say let that woman have the baby then sent it off to adoption. What happens to the baby in life later? Do they ever damn ask themselves these questions? No, they don't care. They don't fund social programs on sex education, planned pregnancies, supporting single mothers - the real protection of human life. Republicans are walking contradictions. This campaign has shown their true colors. They want to stay in power by placating to the religious right. Go right ahead. They have nothing else to run. They've lost fiscal responsibility.

Furthermore, your comments on bringing a welfare state to Blacks are some sick, racist, and baseless comments. You should be ashamed of yourself! The Democratic Party has always done more to help Latinos - but beyond they have shown empathy to our cause. I have been around Latin America and I have heard the support for Obama. It is real.

Also if you want to bring wealth into this discussion - by indicating Obama's expenses for the schooling of his two little girls - well I just wouldn't go there. Both men are rich. But McCain is richer. McCain has many houses, who knows how many he really has, and apparently many cars too, 13 in all:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/newsweek-vehicle-records-mccains-13/story.aspx?guid=%7B1C9C67CF-56B2-4B82-8350-CF9930BF0D90%7D&dist=hppr

If you were a true Democrat before Clinton left the race you would still vote democrat. If you know the issues you would know that Palin and Clinton are complete polar opposites on almost everything that should be important for an individual and the family.

Obama will win this election because he is a straight shooter. If you can't see through the Republicans tricky, dirty ways by now then you are a lost cause. The Republican National Convention was supremely negative derisive and disgusting embellishing in all of their ugly ways.

Godspeed .

Obama/Biden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Someone Latina | September 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

BARACK IS POMPOUS, ELITIST, ARROGANT and out of touch with the heartbeat of middle America and Latinos.

BARACK'S WORDS ARE EMPTY AND HOLLOW; he talks about the struggles of americans, while he spends $20,000 for each of his children's schooling.

BARACK'S RELIGIOUS LEADER JEREMIAH WRIGHT IS IN HIDING, while waiting to move to his multimillion mansion, built with the blood and tears of the poor people he preaches to.

BARACK IS JUST ANOTHER CORRUPT PRIEST OF FALSEHOOD, NOT THE MESSIAH HE PRETENDS TO BE. He preaches humility and togethernes, but he fractured the democratic party when he chose his inflated ego and rejected Hillary Clinton as VP. This grave mistake has sentenced his campaign to the grave.

The Latino community is afraid of Obama's true intentions of black supremacy and the return to a welfare State for blacks and they believe John McCain will better serve the working class that struggles to better their lives. The Latino community also Loves Sarah Palin, a woman reformer that is human, caring, sensitive and honest.

THE MCCAIN/PALIN TICKET HAS GIVEN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA TO the Democrat Latino Community who now have a very compelling reason to vote for the republican ticket, as a way to put their country first by electing a president that has the qualifications, experience and love for our country and at the same time elect a woman to the White House as equal partners in governance and leadership of our country.

Country First!

LATINOS FOR MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Manolete | September 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of attitude Obama and his media tank have brought this great country. This is one of thousands I've read and I quote:

"Did he really slap that white boy? He is the man! That's what I'm talkin about! Put that white ho in his place! It's time for the world to know who's in charge in this mother! All you other gun toting, religion clinging white trash better get ready, too!"

Posted by davideconnollyjr on Sep 24, 2008 2:08 AM

Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 24, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama
NBC's "Today"
September 23, 2008

NBC's Matt Lauer: "Three minutes later in an interview with Meredith Vieira, Joe Biden, your running mate was asked the exact same question, 'should the federal government bailout AIG?' And he said, 'No, the federal government should not bailout AIG.'"

Barack Obama: "I think that in that situation, I think Joe should have waited as well."

Lauer: "But it's the kind of thing that drives people crazy about politics. Sounds like you were trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words."

Posted by: scott | September 23, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

So Obama wants to give money to people who can't afford their mortgage payment and to me that is just like giving these CEO's who failed us there share of the money. That means illegals and people who couldn't afford it in the first place will get our money because they can't budget or are unwilling to work. Maybe if African Americans and Hispanics put less money into their cars and clothing they would be a lot better off. Hell they should think about educating themselves rather then complaining that our government doesn't do enough for them.

Posted by: James | September 23, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Once again, Ed O'Keefe and the WaPo cover for BHO. This time, they fail to point out that BHO took McCain's quote out of context. In fact, on the video you can hear the snap at the end of McCain's quote due to bad sound editing as they cut off the rest of what he said.

Let me provide the context the WaPo is too much in the tank to provide:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008027.html

Posted by: 24AheadDotCom | September 23, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Money for Wall Street Means No Money for Main Street...period, end of story.


Just in case you think that what happens on Wall Street stays on Wall Street, Barack Obama is already breaking the news. Bailing out irresponsible CEOs who have pocketed billions in bonuses over the last eight years, is going to mean making do without the things that the nation needs:

"Democrat Barack Obama said Tuesday the deepening American financial crisis and prospect of a massive government bailout meant he likely would have to delay expansive spending programs outlined during his campaign for the White House. In an interview with NBC television, Obama said he would have to study what happens to the United States' tax revenues before making decisions on budgeting for his promised initiatives on national health care, education, energy and other concerns."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26851737/


Expanded health care? Sorry, that's going to help Goldman Sachs. Education improvements? Call Bank of America. Getting out of our problems with oil? We'll get back to you on that when Morgan Stanley says they have what they need.


Someone might want to point out that when John McCain and the cult of deregulation handed Wall Street everything they wanted, the last thing they were doing was putting their country first.

Posted by: former Republican | September 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"John McCain and the Republicans have no clue about the struggles of the middle class and working people."

All I have to say about that is, I work very very hard for every dime that I make. I've gone through a household where someone lost there job because of an industry that is not able to hold the demands of all the workers that it once had. I'm fighting for my mortgage as a first time home buyer and wife of a veteran Army soldier, and my husband and I are working our butts off to make sure that we live "comfortably"... so comments like THAT make me even more against certain runners in the political field right now.

Thats all. My views have been made very clear before, so nothing else needed, except that ads that show "all republicans" as perfectly wealthy snobs, is as far fetched as Obama's family having to "work their way up from the swallows of society"

Posted by: acahall | September 23, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I noticed we have a few history experts, so I am going to ask you all something, did the Blacks apply for a visa o they came illegally? because once they weren't slaves, I read they were unwanted in this country just like the illegal emigrants are now.

Posted by: africans? | September 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

What are liberals complaining about the cost of the bailout for - 90% of them don't pay taxes anyway.

Sure it will cut back on their welfare, prison food, drug treatment accoutrements but what the hell - get a job and buy your own rims, Nikes, big screens, and grills.

Posted by: Obama - the left wing's puppet | September 23, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Bush + McCain = "W"orthless - Hey WORTHLESS, the only thing is you left out a few "FACTS".


Yopu need to read some unbiased literature like maybe the congressional record for instance.

In there you will note that McCain was a co-sponsore for S.190. What is S.190 your uninformed little mind ask?

S.190 proposed in 2005, was a bill which would have generated oversight amongst ANY organization involved in secondary, subprime lending (the cause of this mess for those who care).

So why wasn't S190 passed? You'll have to ask Obama, Clinton, and Dodd;the demcorats who while taking in excess of $390,000 from Fannie/Freddie voted against the bill.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

My Friend (s),

You owe $2,293.53 dollars to Wall Street Fat Cats Inc.... check, cash or charge?

How do you owe this money?

It's simple, George Bush wants a 700 Billion dollar bailout for Fat Cat bankers.
--700 Billion dollars divided by the current U.S. population = $2,293.53

How the heck did this happen?

You can thank John McCain and his top economic advisor Phil Gramm.
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In 1999, after 60 years of successful regulation under the 1933 Glass-Stegall Act Republicans like Phil Gramm, John McCain and a bunch of Bank Lobbyists deregulated the banking industry and allowed banks to get involved in overly risky lending.

As predicted, those banks failed, taking others with them and we're now facing another stock market meltdown.

This wasn't the first (or even the second) time something like this happened:
-In 1982, under Republican Ronald Reagan the Savings and Loan/Banking industry was deregulated.
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-Again, Republicans Phil Gram, John McCain, Lobbyists and fat cats like Charles Keating decided deregulation was a good idea. Let the Savings and Loan Companies do what they want!

-John McCain took hundreds of thousands of dollars of gifts and campaign contributions from Keating in exchange for doing his bidding.

-John McCain's gift to Charles Keating was the deregulation of S & L banks.

The results were frighteningly similar:

-Tax payers bailed out Fat Cat Bankers like Charles Keating with $124.6 billion.

-Google "Keating 5" and you'll see it all.

The pattern is simple:

-Republicans like John McCain, Phil Gramm and Lobbyists deregulate.
-Wall Street gets rich.
-You pay the bill.

Now John McCain who self-identifies as a "deregulator" wants to:

1.) Deregulate Health Care
2.) Privatize Social Security

We can't afford more of the same with John McCain.

How do you think Health Care and Social Security will turn out if John McCain and Phil Gramm get their way?

Wall Street doesn't care if you lost your job, or if you can't make your mortgage. But when they need a bailout, it's "Hello Big Government!"


Thanks,
Wall Street Fat Cats and Republican Presidential candidates Inc.


P.S.
Your kids owe $2,293.53 no matter how old they are.
Your parents owe $2,293.53 no matter how little they make.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
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Posted by: Bush + McCain = "W"orthless | September 23, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

99.99% of the American public has never heard Obama speak extemporaneously while virtually all Americans have heard McCain without a rehearsed script. That is not an accident. Even the press corps tries to address Obama impromptu - no way no how.

Obama cannot eloquently address an issue he has not rehearsed the response for 100 times.

When the left hears Obama during the unscripted debate - even they, who give a lifelong racist, anti American socialist a pass with be amazed at his complete and total utter ignorance.

This is the reason he refused the dozen town hall debates with McCain and this is the reason you won't see him the week before the unscripted debate.

You'll get a flavor for his style during the first debate but stay tuned for an overdose of imbecilic, moronic rambling until his brain engages. You might want to have some tissue handy.

Republicans - be ready to laugh your asses off.

Posted by: Obama - the left wing's puppet | September 23, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Your all kind of foolish
We are about to spend more money to bail out the banks then we spent on the welfare state since the great depression! This includes public education as well as immigration. Actually we spent more to bail out wall street using the RTC in 90' so actually we have spent DOUBLE because we are about to do it again!!!
Oh yeah and if history is a teacher the walls dont work PERIOD
get a clue or get bent...

Posted by: Wild Bill | September 23, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I am sure the illegals are streaming into the voting booths to get Barack into office. God knows they have all of our money from those bad mortgages to buy SUVs and ride into town and register to vote.... or right, ILLEGALS CAN"T REGISTER TO VOTE.

idiot

Posted by: right you are | September 23, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

In a twisted sort of way I almost want McCain to win this election because four more years worth of failed Bush/McCain policies would for all intents and purposes be the end of the Republican party as we know it today. They would become the 4th party gadflies that they deserve to be.


The only question is, would this country survive it?


You people out there who live in economic downtrodden states like Ohio, Pa and Michigan etc, if you're stupid enough to vote for McCain you will deserve all of the economic hardship that a "president McCain" would give you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: Stacey Hill | September 23, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

No McCain - long winded but not at all accurate.

Instead of point out your inaccurate, perceived failings of the republicans, maybe you want to extol the virtues of your candidate - Oh, what's that, you can't because there aren't any? Now I understand.

Posted by: Obama - the left wing's puppet | September 23, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Exactly how do you say - uh, errrrrr, ummmmmmmmm, ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, huhhh in spanish?

Posted by: Obama - the left wing's puppet | September 23, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

in a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
This time the stakes are much higher then most people could imagine
I would like to point out some things You may already know with a new perspective.
I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
Is terrifying. He thinks it could get worse then the great depression.
Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world
Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms.
And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.
If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash
And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before
The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
And all of our economic future depends on them reorganizing these companies right.
Lehman, Merill Lynch, and Bear Sterns have survived for over 150 years and survived even the great depression
They are important because the are the biggest engines of growth in america and
they are connected to almost everything.
The last time the real estate market numbers looked this bad was during
The great depression and real estate often leads the way into major economic recessions.
One out of 10 Americans is somewhere in the foreclosure process.
During the last 8 years the average person saw there salary drop instead
Of increase. These are all facts no one will argue with.
The truth is we are only in the start of the worst economy we have seen in our generation
and a very real possibility of another depression.
Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it
He does not understand exactly what is broken. Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these
securities use complex math models very few people understand.
They are basically bundles of thousand of loans some good and some bad that are then given rules based on quantitiative
math. It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this, and the same things bush and mcain have done for the last 8 years
Have not worked so far and wont work in the future.
If you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always __________
90 percent of the time they have voted the same.
Please don't just take my word for it Start to read up on some of this yourself. MSN money, elliot wave and, bloomberg
Have tons of articles That prove we are in the heading into one of the worst economies any one has ever seen.
So why are the polls even close then ?
The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell personality instead
of results.
He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
Lets teach him we are smarter then that and elect the ticket that can
bring us back from the brink of a economic abyss.
If you think i am kidding do your own home work you will find
We are at the start of this mess not the end.
Mcain admits in the year 2008 he cannot use a computer even to send email
Its almost impossible then he will understand the complex securities such as cdos that are destroying wall street
and the home values on your street.
We are not bulletproof america it time to wake up and hold these people accountable.
How many people that you go out and have drinks with would you really want running the country?
Lets stand up and fight for our country now while it will still make a difference
Lets elect Obama Biden 08
Mccain straight out lied in his convention speech when he said that he would lower taxes for the common man while Obama would raise the taxes. Yes! Obama will raise taxes but not for the common man but for the wealthiest top 5% of the American people in which Mccain is included. And by the way political analysts agree that Obama's tax policy is more beneficial for the common man because he is going to decrease taxes for 95% of Americans which has to include the common man because a common man is not 5% of the American population.
!!!!!!!The Truth is Mccain lies and deceives voters like in his convention speech where he presented the incomplete truth about his policies.!!!!!1
By the Way Grant was also a military hero who won because of his character. And his term was full of corruption. Why?
it is because he had no clue about wat the common man experiences just like MCcain and Palin. Well for all of u who claim that Obama is too young and inexperienced and young to be president. Guess wat? Mccain is too old to be president and fighting as a soldier is different from commanding a whole country's army and handling the economy (which does not only depend on the fundamentals (workers) but on the policies of the president for investors to invest in a crashing economy)and Palin is the worst possible VP candidate because she has no foreign policy experience which is needed in diplomatic relationships with other nations which the VP is responsible for. And being incharge of the Alaskan National Guard which had no crisis to face is not a qualification to be 2nd to commander in chief.
Obama on the other hand is willing to go against issues because of his minimal exposure to the corruption in washington.
For example, he opposed the War in Iraq which mccain supported just because the oil prices would go up leading to more profits for people like Bush and others in washington who own an oil drilling facility.
Mccain is just like Bush who deceived the public and charged into the War in Iraq (very similar to Vietnam war which had no reason but destroyed that country). Mccain lied to the public in his convention speech on his and Obama's tax policy for the common man.
And Bidden is a very good choice for VP because the VP is supposed to be the invisible leader of the Senate and maintain diplomatic relationships with foreign countries( Bidden was in the senate in charge of Foreign policy)
i say Mccain would be a good VP candidate because of his foriegn policy experience and long time in the Senate but asking him to be president is going too far. Having good character does not mean he is right on policies ( especially regarding the economy and the common man).
Go Obama and Bidden the better qualified ticket for the Presidency and the VP.

Posted by: no mccain | September 23, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

"Why do you think obama does not commit to building a fence?"

Because it didn't work in Berlin.

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 23, 2008 1:53 PM

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SonOfHistoryProf you are the idiot.In Berlind it use to divide the same nation

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Republicans really think and believe that the American people are stupid and vote mostly against their interest. They may be right because anyone that reads this and believes that Obama is an elitist, is stupid in deed.


"After the brouhaha over Sen. John McCain's struggle to recall how many houses he owns, Newsweek wondered how many cars might be parked at the presidential candidate's multiple homes."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/report-mccain-h.html#comments
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It gets better..:


"McCain has a 2004 Cadillac CTS, a 2007 half-ton Ford pickup truck, a 1960 Willys Jeep, a 2008 Jeep Wranger among other American cars. He's got a few foreign vehicles in his fleet as well, owning a 2005 Volkswagen convertible and a 2001 Honda sedan."


The only vehicle registered in Obama's name is a 2008 Ford Escape hybrid.


"McCain's wife, Cindy, an heiress to a beer distribution company, has her name on 11 vehicles but actually only drives one car -a Lexus with the personal plates MS BUD."


McCain can't even keep his story straight.....


"One vehicle in the McCain fleet has caused a small flap. United Auto Workers president Ron Gettelfinger, an Obama backer, accused McCain this month of "flip-flopping" on who bought daughter Meghan's foreign-made Toyota Prius. McCain said last year that he bought it, but then told a Detroit TV station on Sept. 7 that Meghan "bought it, I believe, herself."


Straight-talk?
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http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/MvO_compare.jpg
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Posted by: ZappoDave | September 23, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Son of a history professor do you even read up on illegal immigration or are you one to accept it? The fact is that illegal immigration cost is going up and if you want to continue paying their bills then you have that right, but I surely don't want to provide funds for people that don't even respect us. Maybe if you would read more about this problem then you too can use the word "fact".

Posted by: James | September 23, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

To answer your question on where I came from, well my great, great grandpa came from Pomeria which is now part of Poland back in 1879, but he did it legally like most of them did back then. Now you have millions coming into America illegally and it's costing us tax payers billions each year. This to me is not greatness because it is turning our great country into a third world country just like the places they all came from. Please read up on the facts before you say that illegal immigrants are good for America. I have no objections for the ones who do it legally and want a better life for themselves.

Posted by: James | September 23, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mitch | September 23, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

These are some tough economic times we're living in...for everyone who isn't a corporate CEO or a rich Republican presidential candidate (McCain)..


McCain in April declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, was back with the campaign last week.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay.


In his defense, McCain's shocking tone-deafness may just be a matter of perspective. When you're as well off as he is, anything below a $5 million income (a figure exceeding that earned on average by the top 0.1% of Americans) seems middle class.


*The $100 Million Man*
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.


*The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership*
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.


*The Anheuser-Busch Windfall*
As it turns out, the beauty of globalization is in the eye of the beholder. While John McCain apparently played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock. Amazingly, while Missouri's politicians of both parties lined up to try to block the sale, John McCain held a fundraiser in the Show Me State even as the In Bev deal was being finalized.


*McCain's $370,000 Personal Tax Break*
Earlier this year, the Center for American Progress analyzed John McCain's tax proposals. The conclusion? McCain's plan is radically more regressive than even that of President Bush, delivering 58% of its benefits to the wealthiest 1% of American taxpayers. McCain's born-again support for the Bush tax cuts has one additional bonus for Mr. Straight Talk: the McCains would save an estimated $373,000 a year.


*Paying Off $225,000 Credit Card Debt - Priceless*
That massive windfall from his own tax plan will come in handy for John McCain. As was reported in June, the McCains were carrying over $225,000 in credit card debt. The American Express card - don't leave your homes without it.


*Charity Begins at Home*
As Harpers documented earlier this year, the McCains are true believers in the old saying that charity begins at home:
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Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to [their] foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids' private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.
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Ironically, the McCain campaign last week blasted Barack Obama for having attended a private school in Hawaii on scholarship. That attack came just weeks after John McCain held an event at his old prep school, Episcopal High, an institution where fees now top $38,000 a year.


*Private Jet Setters*
As the New York Times detailed back in April, John McCain enjoyed the use of his wife's private jet for his campaign, courtesy of election law loopholes he helped craft. Despite the controversy, McCain continued to use Cindy's corporate jet. For her part, Cindy McCain says that even with skyrocketing fuel costs, "in Arizona the only way to get around the state is by small private plane."


*Help on the Homefront*
In these tough economic times, the McCains are able to stretch their household budget. As the AP reported in April, "McCain reported paying $136,572 in wages to household employees in 2007. Aides say the McCains pay for a caretaker for a cabin in Sedona, Ariz., child care for their teenage daughter, and a personal assistant for Cindy McCain."


*Well-Heeled in $520 Shoes*
If clothes make the man, then John McCain has it made. As Huffington Post noted in July, "He has worn a pair of $520 black leather Ferragamo shoes on every recent campaign stop - from a news conference with the Dalai Lama to a supermarket visit in Bethlehem, PA." It is altogether fitting that McCain wore the golden loafers during a golf outing with President George H.W. Bush in which he rode around in cart displaying the sign, "Property of Bush #41. Hands Off."


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Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 23, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"Why do you think obama does not commit to building a fence?"

Because it didn't work in Berlin.

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 23, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I find it hilarious when people use "facts" when debating illegal immigration.

"half of the people are hispanic and here illegally"

Wow. Where'd you get your facts from? Did you just make them up? Wow. Where'd you learn to do that????

If person X is taken into custody and their nationality is Y and they cannot produce paperwork, yeah, that's a fact, person X is an illegal immigrant.

Short of that...well, you can always ask James to make up more statistics for you.

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 23, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"Why do you think voter ID laws are always blocked?"

Jim Crow.

Don't be ignorant. While you use a computer often, there are Americans who don't. There are Americans who don't have a drivers license. Like the people who couldn't evacuate when Katrina hit because they didn't have a car. No car....why have a drivers license?

Bigoted southern democrats before 1965 used to use laws like that to disenfranchise poor voters.

Do you want to advocate for laws that pick up where those left off??

If the law cuts out legitimate American voters, it is a travesty. If you can't express appreciation for that, you'll always wonder why those laws get opposed. And, I suspect, you'll spend your life blaming other people for some of your own shortcomings.

Plessy vs Ferguson. Separate but equal. 3/5 of a person. Emmitt Till. Japanese internment camps.

Despite the stains listed above, America has a tradition of greatness and inclusion. Are you one to oppose this greatness?

Where did your ancestors immigrate from?

Posted by: SonOfHistoryProf | September 23, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Illegal immigrants is one of the main reasons we are in this mess with mortgages because banks gave them loans and then they up and leave when they can't pay. Illegal criminals is what i like to call them because they feed on billions of free money our government gives them and then us American citizens have to flip their bill. Wake up America because it's only going to get worse if they don't close the border down completely. I have seen the destruction they leave on homes first hand and it's not pretty especially when they have five families living in one house. As for us bailing out people that can't afford their house payments, you can kiss my butt because they were stupid enough to purchase something they couldn't afford in the first place. I don't feel our tax money should be used to help pay these mortgages off because at least half the people are hispanic and are here illegally.

Posted by: James | September 23, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

JakeD - when does early voting for Obama/Biden starts???

Posted by: DavidKae | September 23, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse


Do they let illegal aliens vote in those states? Because just about everyone else speaks English.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 23, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Of course obama does this, he is courting the illegals votes. If you don't believe illegals vote, you are not paying attention. Why do you think voter id laws are always blocked?
Why do you think obama does not commit to building a fence? The democrat party is depending on illegals voting, that's how they won the congress, and thats their plan to win the white house.

Posted by: crowbar | September 23, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Residents of Georgia, Kentucky, and Virginia (even Spanish-speaking voters):

Early voting for McCain-Palin started YESTERDAY!! In all, 34 states allow people to vote before election day. 28 of those states allow "no-excuse" absentee voting, so just get it done ASAP. You may not get another chance.

Posted by: JakeD | September 23, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

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