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Obama Zings McCain's 'Old Boy Network'

Updated 9:22 p.m.
By Anne E. Kornblut
LAS VEGAS -- The rest of the Democratic establishment has been panicking in recent days over the upward trajectory of the McCain-Palin ticket -- but Sen. Barack Obama appears to be barely letting his blood pressure rise.

He held two events today, one in Elko, Nev., another here. He chided Sen. John McCain some at both. "Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he's president, he'll take on the, quote, old boys' network in Washington," Obama said in Elko.

"I am not making this up. This is someone who's been in Congress for 26 years - who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign - and now he's the one who will take on the old boy network?" Obama continued. "The old boy network? In the McCain campaign, that's called a staff meeting."

The line drew an enthusiastic response from the more than 1,500 guests the campaign estimated were in attendance. But it was still just a cool zinger -- in keeping with the mellow tone pervading the campaign even in what some of his allies consider a time for worry. Adding to the low-key vibe was a new ad, running two minutes in length, released on Wednesday morning featuring Obama speaking directly into the camera about the financial crisis.

By nighttime, Obama got a little more revved up. At a rally inside a baseball stadium here, Obama opened with a rousing "Si se puede" and joked about playing the slot machines while he was in town. But he quickly brought the crowd back down to a more serious level. He told people they could sit down -- rather than standing in their seats -- and said it had been a "difficult day, in a difficult week, in a difficult year," as he launched into what is becoming a standard part of his stump speech, about the financial meltdown.

"I didn't just read a poll and say, 'Oh, hey, this is a change election,'" he said.

Pro-McCain protestors outside the Obama event here were much more worked up. One woman carried a sign with a photo of Obama on it that read: "The anti-American choice." Several held up "Welcome McCain" signs, and there were a smattering of ones featuring the increasingly popular slogan: "No-Bama!"

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I have seen many comments here suggesting if one supported Hillary, they should vote against Obama and vote for Palin.

What crap is that? Palin stand against everything that Obama and Hillary stand for. Palin does not believe in pro-choice, Hillary does. Palin does not believe in universal health care- Hillary staked her reputation on that very issue. Hillary Clinton wanted to be known on her stand on universal health care - plan that was more on the left than Obama's plan. Hillary Clinton wants us out of Iraq and regretted voting for war in Iraq. The SHAMELESS McCain and Palin gloat about war fare and teaching Iran a lesson.

If you Democrat turncoats have even an OUNCE of intelligence, or an OUNCE of honour, you will vote with your brains rather than what your private parts say.

Posted by: JSMith | September 20, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I guess blueblood entitlement has been going on throughout the ages...as to who has been given opportunities for fame or success or power
www.wargs.com- William Addams Reitwiesner a library of congress geneologist. This info was coroberrated by The New England Historic Genealogical

Society.

this was also researched by-KAILUA-KONA » A Big Island genealogist says presidential hopeful U.S. Sen. Barack Obama has some ancestral ties to

the White House.Bruce Harrison, founder of the Waikoloa-based Family Forest Project.www.FamilyForest.com
An Obama spokesman did not dispute the information and said that the senator's ancestors "are representative of America." (Yeah Right Elite

Pedigreed Blueblood America)

There is no wonder despite th ehumble beginnings b.s that this man was tapped to be president! what are the odds....1 zillion to 1 keeping it in that

inner circle! gee and we all thought he was this new guy!

The following material on the immediate ancestry of Barack Obama should not be considered either exhaustive or authoritative, but rather as a first

draft. (MATERNAL SIDE OF FAMILY)

Christopher Challender Child and Robert Battle contributed to this report. In addition, corrections were provided by Joe David Bellamy, Judy Barry

Strangfeld, Gratia Dunham Mahoney, Fred Chalfant, P. J. Evans, James Quinn, and James R. Kuttler.

Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of

Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas. His parents met while both were attending the East-West Center of

the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student. When Barack Obama was two years old, his parents divorced

and his father moved to Connecticut to continue his education before returning to Kenya.

When Obama was six, his mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager and moved to Jakarta, Indonesia. Obama's half-sister, Maya

Soetoro was born after the family moved to Indonesia. Four years later she sent him back to the United States to live with his maternal

grandmother.
Barack Obama graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he met his future wife, Michelle Robinson. They have two

daughters, Malia and Sasha.


DESCENDANTS OF Barack Hussein Obama (born August 4, 1961

PRESIDENTS:
1.Thomas WOODROW WILSON (1856-1924
2.GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH (b. 1924), US President, m. Barbara Pierce
3.GEORGE WALKER BUSH (b. 1946), US President
4. HARRY S. TRUMAN (1884-1972),
5.JAMES EARL CARTER (b. 1924), US President
6. James Madison
7 Lyndon Johnson
8 GERALD RUDOLPH FORD Jr (1913-2006),
9. George Washington
VP's
1. Richard Bruce Cheney

Winston Churchill

SENATORS:
1. BIRCH EVANS BAYH Jr
2. BIRCH EVANS BAYH III (Evan Bayh (Ind)
3. Robert Carlyle Sale, later ROBERT CARLYLE BYRD
4. John Edwards

CONGRESS REP:
1.JOHN CHANEY (1790-1881), US Representative, m. Mary Ann Lafere
2. GALUSHA AARON GROW (1822-1907


SUPREME COURT JUSTICES:
1. GABRIEL DUVALL (1752-1844), US Supreme Court Justice
2. MAHLON PITNEY (1858-1924), assoc US Supreme Court Justice, m. Florence Theodora Shelton


GOVERNORS:
1. JOHN ELLIS "Jeb" BUSH
2. HOWARD BRUSH DEAN III (VT)
3. Gov. THOMAS HINCKLEY (1619-1706
4. Mitt Romney
5. Bill Richahrdson

GENERAL
1. Robert E. Lee

UK PRIME MINISTER:
1.Sir WINSTON LEONARD SPENCER-CHURCHILL (1874-1965), UK Prime Minister
2. Maurice) HAROLD MACMILLAN, 1st Earl of Stockton (1894-1986), UK Prime Minister

NOTABLE PERSONS:
1. Patricia Ann Paugh m. m. John Bennett Ramsey
2. JONBENET PATRICIA RAMSEY (1990-1996)
3. .GORDON BITNER HINCKLEY (b. 1910), president of the Mormon church
4. Dorothy Walker m. Prescott Sheldon Bush
5. JOHN WARNOCK HINCKLEY (b. 1955), attempted assassin Reagan (fixationon Jodie Foster)
6. JOHN SAMUEL WATERS Jr (b. 1946), filmmaker
7. JAMES ELVERSON (1838-1911), publisher
8. JULIETTE Magill Kinzie GORDON LOW (1860-1927), founder of the Girl Scouts

NOBILITY:
1. Mary Victoria Leiter m. GEORGE NATHANIEL CURZON, 1st Marquess CURZON (1859-1924)
2. Bessie Wallis Warfield- Wallis, The Duchess of Windsor (previously Wallis Simpson; previously Wallis Spencer; born Bessie Wallis Warfield;
3. OLIVIER Comte de CAUMONT La FORCE

ASTRONAUTS:
1. JOHN HERSCHEL GLENN Jr


ARTISTS:
1. GEORGIA O'KEEFFE (1887-1986), artist
2. CHARLES SAMUEL ADDAMS (1912-1988), cartoonist


AUTHORS:
1. KEN ELTON KESEY (1935-2001
2. JOHN ERNEST STEINBECK (1902-1968),


INDUSTRIALISTS AND BUSINESS
1. JOHN PIERPONT MORGAN JR. (J.P. Morgan) (1867-1943), banker
2. GEORGE WASHINGTON RIGGS (1813-1881), banker
3. THEODORE NEWTON VAIL (1845-1920), founder of A T & T

JOURNALISTS:
1. ALEXANDER BRITTON HUME (Fox News) (b. 1943), journalist

FILMMAKER
1.JOHN SAMUEL WATERS Jr (b. 1946), filmmaker


CELEBRITIES:
1. Leonidas Frank ("LON") CHANEY (1883-1930), actor, m. Frances Cleveland Creighton
2. Creighton Tull Chaney ("LON CHANEY Jr") (1906-1973), actor
3. JUSTIN RANDALL TIMBERLAKE (b. 1981), singer
4. JOHNATHAN SOUTHWORTH RITTER (1948-2003), actor
5. LOUDON SNOWDEN WAINWRIGHT III musician
6. CLARENCE LINDEN (Buster) CRABBE (1908-1983- Tarzan
7. William Hall "BILLY" BUSH (b. 1972), entertainment reporter
8. KATHARINE HOUGHTON HEPBURN (1909-2003), actress
9. WILLIAM BRADLEY PITT
10. CHRISTOPHER REEVE (1952-2004
12. Elizabeth Hadley Richardson m. Ernest Miller Hemingway
| .John Hadley Hemingway m. Byra Whittesley Whitlock
| .MARGAUX HEMINGWAY (1955-1996), actress
| .MARIEL HADLEY HEMINGWAY (b. 1961), actress
13. PARK OVERALL
14. ROBERT SELDEN DUVALL (b. 1931), actor

Posted by: Brian | September 19, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Everyone now thinks no way was Obama a muslim....to islam it doesn't matter that he is a christian now...it only matters what he was born to....and Obama's dad was a muslim...if you read this article 3 pages...this isn't about the christian science religion but about our national safety should Obama get elected. Everyone should be at least aware of this..

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0519/p09s02-coop.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

To: seanpugz,
NEWSFLASH Joe Biden's son has been a lobbyist since 2001....they just announced he won't be one anymore....in my opinion that is until the election is over....as the actual name on the firm he works for Biden is one of those names so he is one of the owners of the lobbying firm. SO if he were real honest he would have closed down the firm.."Oldaker, Biden & Belair" but don't count on that....he is just suspending his own lobbying til after dada hopefully gets elected

Posted by: susan | September 19, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I am hoping for a collossal failure of the economy. It seems like we will remain complacent until something drastic happens. Kind of like how people woke up in the 60's and 70's only when the draft, civil rights and vietnam were underway. Sad that the idiotic masses will probably prevail november 4th.

Posted by: Great Depression | September 19, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

"The American economy is the envy of the world, and we need to keep it that way" "I'm not an economist" "The fundamentals of our economy are strong" - George W Bush - Aug 9, 2007


"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should" John McCain - Dec 17. 2007
"Our economy, I think, still the fundamentals of our economy are strong" - John McCain - Sep 15. 2008

Does anyone see a pattern here? Are 50% of the American people really stupid enough to still support either of these two clueless idiots?

Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 19, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

John McCain: "My Friends" = Lobbyist buddies
John mccain is no friend of yours.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPuoAWaVStE

Posted by: deshaun, atl, ga | September 18, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Could someone PLEASE tell me WHY you believe what Barack HUSSEIN OBAMA is telling you? I have yet to really KNOW the truth about him. We certainly cannot get any truth about him from the media, including newspapers. All they seem to be able to do is PRAISE HIM. Sorry, no one is that perfect!!!! Why not give us the truth about him and let us make up our minds, instead of praising him umpteen times a day. I DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING FROM HIS MOUTH!!!!

Posted by: Candee | September 18, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

obama 08!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

All i gotta say is this.......their is a great possibility that either candidate doesn't make it the first 4 years (Mccain because of his old age, and past health problems, and Obama because well he's half black and alot of people don't want to see him as president for that reason and might try to kill him) but look at the VP's you have Sarah Pilin and Joe Biden. I ain't even gonna hesitate to pick Joe Biden, because i know he has experience, he's not tied to major lobbyists, and he knows the problems facing lower income bracket americans, not just the problems facing oil executives like Palin. That being said i hope nothing happens to Obama, because I support him and got love for him, and if Mccain wins i seriously hope he doesn't die, because i don't like who's next in line even more than the man who voted against a federal holiday for MLK before voting for it. (After the Arizoa Cardinals said they would move somewhere else)

Posted by: seanpugz | September 18, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe people still want 4 more years of the same policies we've had the previous 8. "I voted with the president 90% of the time," said John McCain. Look where that has left our economy. Vote for REAL CHANGE

Posted by: Matt | September 18, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

This country needs another republican president like a compulsive gambler needs a Mafia loan shark.

Posted by: Charles | September 18, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

TARGETING OF AMERICAN CITIZENS BY GOV'T AGENCIES:
ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis

Posted by: scrivener | September 18, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well. Obama and another jab at the good old boys. Seems to me those good old boys have a female VP. Who is Obama calling the good old boys. Would that be Clinton, Biden, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean? Isn't this the good old Dem boys network? Obama is a smear on America with his lies of change and is just the pan calling the kettle black. He may be worse in that he thinks himself above it, but he is in fact right in the mud! What a farce he is and soooo boring.

Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 18, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

ELECTION 2008
Obama camp confirms troop pullout delay plan
Spokeswoman denies report; ends up affirming main claim

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Posted: September 16, 2008
12:45 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

The Obama campaign issued an angry denial to a report yesterday that the Democratic presidential candidate privately urged Iraqi leaders to delay U.S. troop withdrawals, but the statement essentially confirmed the story.

Responding to a column by Iranian-born analyst Amir Taheri in the New York Post, Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi insisted Obama "has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades."

But in the same statement, Morigi said Obama had told the Iraqis they should not rush through a "Strategic Framework Agreement" governing the future of U.S. troops until after President Bush leaves office, the Associated Press reported.

Further, according to the New York Times in a report on June 16, Obama himself has confirmed his actions.

Recalling his meeting with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama said in the Times report, "My concern is that the Bush administration, in a weakened state politically, ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next adminsitration, whether it's my administration or Senator McCain's administration. The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that's currently made."

Zebari had confirmed in the report that Obama "asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the U.S. elections and the formation of a new administration."

In his column, Taheri wrote about the meeting between Zebari and Obama, in which Obama urged a delay in the withdrawal of American forces.

Taheri states Obama insisted it was in Iraq's best interest to avoid an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

That private position would be a stark contrast to Obama's public record.

"The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops," Obama said last year at a university in Iowa. "Not in six months or one year – now."

In January of last year, Obama offered legislation on the floor of the Senate called the Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007, which called for troop withdrawals to begin in May 2007 and to conclude by March 2008.

And in his New York Times editorial released the same month the senator toured the Middle East, Obama wrote, "The call by Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki for a timetable for the removal of American troops from Iraq presents an enormous opportunity. We should seize this moment to begin the phased redeployment of combat troops that I have long advocated."

Taheri reported that Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's advisers wonder if Obama is privately working to delay troop withdrawal until after the election in order to claim credit – should Obama win the presidency – for ending the war.

"Indeed, say Talabani's advisers," reports Taheri, "a President Obama might be tempted to appropriate the victory that America has already won in Iraq by claiming that his intervention transformed failure into success."

The Obama campaign has not responded to WND's request for a response to the Post column.


Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Not a Pawn writes:

"If you're an American, you will Vote MCCAIN 08'"


After reading your drooling diatribe (a mistake) I get to this gem of yours.

Isn't part of our democracy and part of being an "American", excercising one's right to vote for the candidate of their choice ?

And since when do you get to decide who's an American and who isn't, based on some arbitrary criteria that you dream up ?

Posted by: MA | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT,GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO VOTE IN ANOTHER REPUBLICIAN REIGN OF TERROR ARE HIDEOUS!I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF IT..IT'S TURNING ME INTO A POOR PERSON.YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT IT'S OK FOR McCAIN TO PUT OUT SUCH LYING ADS,BUT WHEN OBAMB DOES IT,OH IT'S SOOO TERRIBLE,BECAUSE HE'S NOT REALLY ONE OF US.MUST BE THE CHRISTIAN WAY!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: PUREDEMO | September 18, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Old boy network ?

Apparently McCain hasn't looked in the mirror lately.

The reality is McCain has to dumb this election down if he has any chance to win.

He hammers Obama for months on a lack of experience, then picks a woman as his running mate who has one tenth the resume Obama does (lets start with BO having graduated Harvard law as opposed to Palin attending five colleges before finally getting a poli sci BS at I-da-hoe U). But no one is supposed to notice this ?

And McCain's blatant ripoff of the change mantra, while promising four more years of Bush, is more slight of hand not to mention downright insulting to anyone with an IQ above lukewarm.

McBush can't figure out if the economy is sound or in crisis and he states that no one he knows would have supported the AIG loan bailout.

The question is, would McBush support the AIG bailout if he was president ?

Tough to say, but whatever his answer might be to this question this morning, stick around, by afternoon who'll have a different opinion.

Posted by: MA | September 18, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

wonder if t here is any truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of issues and polls?

provided there is an election considering how the economy may put a stop to it or another Bush/Cheney orchestrated war with Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, etc.

apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy, exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

wonder how would they bump off mutual opponent?

will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time waiting? BTW, OJ is available as his trial is underway today.

will GOP use a Guiliani-like mob ties as used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner and was indicted for and may be doing up to 140 years of jail time? or use Gotti, Jr. who is also available as his trial is underway today too?

will both parties employ the popular law enforcement practice of 'sweetheart exchange deals' where convicts commit crime/murders in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits not suspected?

as this information is given, do we too have to worry about our personal safety? For example, should my diabetic husband worry about his health/life while doing his routine jog after work around 4-4:15pm in the Hackensack, Bogota and Teaneck, areas in NJ today? Do I have to worry about my own safety as I commute to the city via Port Authority bus this afternoon?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

You americans deserve McBush. As your economy turns into Japan, we will benefit. Vote McCain, he knows nothing and is proud of it....

Posted by: Europe Calling | September 18, 2008 9:47 AM

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Obama is an idiot to push on McChange's comments about the ecomony. Apparently he's NEVER heard of Sarcasm.

I drink Samuel Adams now, Budweiser Sucks! Shiner is pretty good too.

Our company's are being bought by others because our laws have weakened opportunity. The media has raped America world wide for Iraq War II (Continuation of Gulf War), by the way MEDIA, America Killed Hussien's SON in the Gulf War just 10 years prior! McChange wants to strength foreign trade because it has been weakened by the Media.

Obama is a BLACK NAZI.

Vote McChange 08' - Clinton 2012.

Posted by: Not a Pawn to ObamaCON! | September 18, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is 1% of the Senate, meaning that McChange only has 1% of the Voting Power! I realize that Obama does NOT know that.

When it comes to the Economy, what could he possible know? Did you know that Blacks have NEVER EVER had a Multi-Billionaire in U.S. History?

America is a Multi-Trillion Dollar Country, you can't hand it over to people who never even had a Multi-Billionaire...

Clinton's #1 Donor just backed McChange, Why?

Don't mistake FACTS for racism. I'm a Yankee and have been proudly embracing my insults for 150 Years!

If you vote OBAMA, you vote for the biggest WELFARE PROGRAM in mankind's history. You will see Welfare Receipients making a SIX FIGURE Income on Welfare. We will be supporting more Fatherless homes with MORE Money than now, instead of punishing the father.

Crime Rates will go through the roof. Felons will have more rights than they deserve in a Free Society. He will attempt to take our guns, take our defenses down, and make us weak.

DO NOT VOTE OBAMA. If you're an American, you will Vote MCCAIN 08' and if you're a Democrat/American, you will Vote MCCAIN 08' and CLINTON 12'


Posted by: Not a Pawn to OBAMACON! | September 18, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

MORE HAS CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT PALINS ALLEDGED AFFAIR.
http://www.theveep.com

MORE PEOPLE SET TO TESTIFY IN TROOPER GATE
IS PALIN DONE? http://www.hotpres.com

DID PALIN VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES?? http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

if McCain was going to benefit average Americans anytime in his life he would have done so in his LONG career in politics. now, as he approaches senility, he needs to move on.

Posted by: tanaS | September 18, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Old boy network? Biden, Kennedy and Bird surely belong to this club.

Lobbyists? Biden's son, Hunter ia registered lobbyist before closing shop last month and after benefiting from his fathers position. Remember the Biden family's connection with MBNA? What about Michelle Obma? she is an "unregistered lobbyist". Sen. Obama gave her wife's employer earmarks for millions of dollars. Ergo, she got a promotion and an hefty pay increase.

Sen. Obama tries to smear the character of an honorable man. Just because he immersed himself in Chicago politics and gained economically by surrounding himself with people like Tony Rezco, Sen. Obama thinks that all people in Washington are corrupt like him.

Posted by: tim591 | September 18, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

You americans deserve McBush. As your economy turns into Japan, we will benefit. Vote McCain, he knows nothing and is proud of it....

Posted by: Europe Calling | September 18, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Obama has very much to worry about. This week, John McCain's candidacy acquired a terminal illness. It is beginning to die.

Posted by: FilmMD | September 18, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: auto trader northwestern ontario | September 18, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Once Prez McCain will "own" more than 8 houses, yet still not know which one he is in. In 2012 McCain will be a youthful 76 & his war-time recalls will be front page news day after day. He will have declared war against most countries of the first, second & third world, except Israel & expanded Guantanamo Prison Cuba into a private international torture camp. The NRA will be the Honor Guard at its gates. George Orwell, author of "1984", will be placed on the USA "Terrorist" list (over +5 million misspelled names), so will all US children born to immigrant parents ...

Posted by: hadeze | September 18, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

George Will on yet another reason to vote McCain/Palin-

"Divided government compels compromises that curb each party's excesses, especially both parties' proclivities for excessive spending when unconstrained by an institution controlled by the other party. William Niskanen, chairman of the libertarian Cato Institute, notes that in the last 50 years, "government spending has increased an average of only 1.73 percent annually during periods of divided government. This number more than triples, to 5.26 percent, for periods of unified government."

By picking Palin, McCain got the country's attention. That is a perishable thing and before it dissipates, he should show the country his veto pen."

Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The following is a matter of the Senate record:

"If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole." John McCain 5/26/06

McCain had the insight, cosponsored a reform bill and pleaded with the senate to act before it was too late and what did Obama do? Nothing!!

Now Obama is blaming McCain for not having attempted to have prevented Wall Street's meltdown. Obama's inaction speaks louder than his words...and it's screams hypocrisy.

Posted by: dan | September 18, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

The folowing is a matter of the Senate record:

"If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole." John McCain 5/26/06

McCain had the insight, cosponsored a reform bill and pleaded with the senate to act before it was too late and what did Obama do? Nothing!!

Now Obama is blaming McCain for not having attempted to have prevented Wall Street's meltdown. Obama's inaction speaks louder than his words...and it's screams hypocrisy.

Posted by: dan | September 18, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"...the man who used the "old boys network" to knock HRC out fo the race is ranting."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:42 AM

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between ranting and whining.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Obama has been cruising along in overdrive. But this doesn't mean he doesn't have or won't use his passing gear at this stage of the race.

Posted by: First Mouse | September 18, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

How many houses you got to have so as to become a member of this Old Boys Network?

Posted by: Buck TX | September 18, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | September 18, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

FUnny! the man who used the "old boys network" to knock HRC out fo the race is ranting.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

I noticed a number of posts which all allege that Obama either is a socialist, or will lead the country into socialism.

Folks what do you call it when the government starts bailing out and taking over private industry? Answer=Socialism.

So, it isn't Obama who is the socialism threat it is Bush and his uncle John.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | September 18, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

McCain: The candidate of ‘Changing his Position’ to get your vote America!

Like Bush, McCain has proven himself ...that he will say anything for votes!


It’s clear that John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election!


McCain lies like ‘the same old Bush!’

McCain = Bush = McBush!

Posted by: Independent | September 18, 2008 4:44 AM | Report abuse

McCain: The candidate of ‘Changing his Position’ to get your vote America!

Like Bush, McCain has proven himself ...that he will say anything for votes!


It’s clear that John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election!


McCain lies like ‘the same old Bush!’

McCain = Bush = McBush!

Posted by: Independent | September 18, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse


To Chicago1,

"Is Obama on crack? His VP has been sitting in the Senate longer than 96 other people."

- True. Additionally, Biden has also criticized Obama on record. Yet, Obama was able to overcome any ego or self-interest and think about the best possible option for the AMERICAN PUBLIC by choosing someone he does NOT agree with completely. See, to be an effective leader, it really helps to get opinions other than your own. If I remember correctly, your state produced another such candidate/President a few years ago. As I recall, he didn't do too poorly. Read a book.

"His coded ageist remarks are no better than racism."

- A racist criticizes ability (typically in an uninformed, ignorant and premature fashion) based on another's geneology, history, traditions, etc. Questioning the mortality and mental acuity of a 72-year old (father died at 70, grandfather at 61) stricken with 4 bouts of MALIGNANT melanoma is a far cry from racism.

(And just for fun) I would argue that Barack Obama is putting Country First by doing his research and determining that the odds do NOT stand in McCain's favor.

Prez Palin? I can see it now: When that phone rings at 3AM. "John, John...?"

Posted by: SSinLA | September 18, 2008 4:16 AM | Report abuse

It's silly if anyone is going to vote for McCain so that Hillary can run in 2012.

Sure, let McCain and Palin wreck the economy even more until the amounts Americans live on everyday start to resemble third-world country levels. And perhaps we will start another Cold War with the Russians and send our troops to fight another meaningless war in Iran.

Palin doesn't even fight for the issues Hillary does. Hillary is a thousand times the woman Palin is. Hillary went on TV, gave interviews unlike a certain someone. Just to "symbolically" break the glass ceiling, you would make life worse for yourself for four years?

How do you know Obama isn't thinking of appointing her to a position in his cabinet?

Posted by: time | September 18, 2008 4:13 AM | Report abuse

United, not true. Obama will have no trouble governing because he will not be doing what his opponents say he will. He will not be raising taxes on the middle class. He will not turn into a closet Islamic terrorist. Americans support Obama's actual positions on the issues by a very large majority. Even McCain knows this, which is why he is trying to pretend he is really a Democrat. McCain has made this campaign personal and lied about Obama because otherwise he would just have to concede. Obama is simply right in all his positions on the issues - part of why Bush is already borrowing them.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 18, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

The sad part is that 4 months ago I would have believed McCain. I used to say this was the best election in years, because I thought McCain was a man of independent and honorable judgment. His campaign has proven the contrary, and the only available answer is that he sold out to what could just as well be called an old boys' network.

Nice chance arguing that Obama would be allowed into such a network.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 18, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Eric, Mike, DAve, and all you other four-letter names clearly hired by McCain to flood these boards with your argument about how a vote for McCain is really a vote for Hillary:

Sure, if you support Hillary you need to vote McCain - UMLESS YOU SUPPORTED HER BECAUSE OF HER POSITIONS, in which case, never mind. Believe me, Hillary wants no piece of what would be left after 4 more years of Republican economics.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 18, 2008 3:48 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, looking at the level of support for both sides, whoever wins this election will have an equally hard time governing.

Given the circumstances, you're better off with someone who knows how to solve issues than with someone who talks in hypothetical terms. Hello! Wake up!

Posted by: United and Divided | September 18, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Look who's talking. Obama's team is full-of-the-same, more-of-the-same people.

Posted by: Fair | September 18, 2008 3:27 AM | Report abuse

John McCain's VP choice says a lot about him. He lacks judgment. He does not think much of an average American. He is just playing politics and calling it reform. He seems to be worse than Bush as a person. He is showing all the signs of a disastrous leader. Bush has hurt the great nation and McCain will kill it.

Posted by: unclesam | September 18, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse


Is Obama on crack? His VP has been sitting in the Senate longer than 96 other people. Axelrod, Daschle, Brzezinski: these are the old hacks he surrounds himself with.

His coded ageist remarks are no better than racism. He disgusts me. Sounds like Maureen Dowd in her curlers.

Posted by: Chicago1 | September 18, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

I was set to vote for McCain until he picked Palin. I will be supporting Bob Barr.

Posted by: Tom | September 18, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

McCain defies logic or is it just plain doubletalk. You can't throw the bums out if you are of the bums. We must guess that he is trying to say he is a non-Republican Republican. Does this mean he was for the Republicans before he was against them? McCain's voting record speaks for itself on huge tax cuts for the extremely wealthy and complete support of deregulation. He can run from Bush but he cannot hide.

Posted by: jefflz | September 18, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Every day George Bush gives his puppet "John McCain" the days agenda. Every day McCain follows his masters orders. Why would anyone want 4 more years of a Bush like clone. McCain is a washed up Republican, it's time to put him out to pasture.

Posted by: SadAmerican | September 18, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

"Anonymous" is your mommy writing your Posts, isn't it past your bed time ?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

@uncle tom:
you mean you do not understand the term :" old boys network"?
the reason we rae in this mess is because people are too dumb.

Posted by: dale | September 18, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

John McCain IS the old boys club. His growing litany of word bite platitudes is becoming increasingly ridiculous. He thinks that just because he stands up and says 'The American worker is the best in the world' or something, we will all jump on his bandwagon. We don't need his condescending compliments- talk about who is all talk! We can see through all this McCain- I swear he thinks we're stupid.

Posted by: katharine | September 18, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Whoa! Anonymous, you might want to take a few, deep breaths and step away from the Caps Lock key.

Seriously, you might want to pursue some anger management counseling

Posted by: Aren't We Angry Tonight? | September 18, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse


McCain-Palin have lost all credibility from their constant
lying.

Today's Republican Party, for all its moral posturing,is
rotten to the core!


Posted by: Ed Myob | September 18, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

WOW - WITH THE GERIATRIC CROWD OF PUPPETEERS WHO DO ALL THE WORK FOR OBAMA ?

HE BETTER WATCH HOW MUCH SPOTLIGHT HE WANTS TO PUT ON THE OLD BOYS CLUB

THE DEMOCRAT BOYS CLUB RAPED HILLARY CLINTON FOR HIM ON SUPER TUESDAY EVENING

THEN STOLE THE VOTES FROM HER SUPPORTERS WHILE SHE LAY THERE

THEY ARE THE DEMOCRATS ROVIAN RAT WORST

THE REASON 17 MILLION ARE STAYING HOME

NO - HE DOESN'T REALLY WANT TO CALL ANYONE ON A BOYS CLUB

HE'S AN IDIOT

THIS PROVES IT

NOTHING TO SAY WITHOUT HIS TELEPROMPTER


SO HE DOES THE DUMMIE (HIS USUAL) AND STEPS IN HIS OWN


THAT DEMOCRAT ROVIAN RAT BOYS CLUB GET EVERYTHING THEY DESERVE


N O T H I N G

CAN THEY SPELL?


GOOD - SPELL THIS : OWN FREAKING FAULT

YOU KNOW - TRASH, LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL

IGNORE 17 MILLION DEMOCRATS


PAYBACK IS WHAT YOU CALLED HILLARY


"BELIEVE" THAT


OR DON'T. WHO CARES WHAT YOU DO.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Rep. Les Gara, right?

Troopergate is a red herring, it is free publicity for Gov. Palin.

Everybody down here thought that spunk trooper should have been fired if not for Alaska's corrupt politics.

Posted by: pete | September 18, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Since Monday the McCain camp has stepped up its personal attacks against Alaskans. They've continued their D.C.-style tactics against neighbors in this small state. The game plan is to find an excuse to stop our Legislature's Troopergate investigation, and hide evidence McCain's folks really don't want to surface before November's election. It's been a little Karl Rove, and parts Laurel and Hardy. How else can you explain the following?

Friday the Attorney General's office promised state witnesses would comply with subpoenas the Legislature issued last week. Tuesday the Governor's Attorney General flip flopped, and announced that state witnesses wouldn't comply because, well, and I'm paraphrasing here - - he's changed his mind. And in what has to be an idea hatched after a 4th Martini at Chilkoot Charlies, Governor Palin's attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss the ethics claim she filed against herself two weeks ago. Yup. She really filed a complaint against herself. Tuesday she said she's discovered, after a thorough investigation of herself, that she's done nothing wrong. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Jon Stewart and Tina Fey?

It's silly season up here in the far north, but this week's moves are aimed at one thing: John McCain's effort to find cover for being disingenuous. See, before Governor Palin's nomination for the Republican VP spot, she did the honest thing. She admitted the evidence -- of roughly 20 contacts between her staff and husband with Public Safety officials, seeking the firing of Governor Palin's former brother-in-law -- might lead a reasonable person to the conclusion that the she misused her office to fire a state employee. So when Alaska's Republican-led Legislature called for an investigation, she did the honorable thing and said she and her staff would comply. She denies any wrongdoing.

Things changed on August 29 when Governor Palin was added to the McCain ticket. Since then his handlers have told her she can't testify. They don't want the evidence in this case to come out. They don't want her to testify under oath. They don't want other witnesses to testify under oath. So they have engaged in daily maneuvers to attack, as disloyal to the McCain campaign, anyone who wants the investigation to move forward. They've now attacked two well respected prosecutors, and perhaps the state's most highly regarded law enforcement official -- the Public Safety Commissioner she hired, and then fired, Walt Monegan.

Every day this week McCain operatives have sung the same tune. Today a guy with an East Coast accent, who knows nothing about Alaska, stood in front of a McCain-Palin banner to lead the attacks against people he doesn't know. At press conferences on Monday and Tuesday campaign staffer Megan Stapleton spit vitriol to repeat her argument that this investigation is really a "Democratic" attack on Governor Palin. See, that's easier than just saying their VP has reneged on her promise to testify. It's easier than just saying they don't want anyone testifying before the November election. It's easier than admitting they are stonewalling a legislative investigation. Oh -- and I know they hate partisan stuff. Yesterday 5 Republican legislators -- all allies of Governor Palin, all supporters of the McCain campaign, filed a lawsuit against the Legislature to stop the investigation.

Here are a few things MCCain's operatives failed to say. There are a few small facts that make it hard to style this as a Democratic investigation. One is that Alaska is a Republican State. We have a Republican Governor and a Legislature of 34 Republicans and 26 Democrats. This summer the Legislature's Legislative Council voted 12-0 (8 Republicans and 4 Democrats) to hire an investigator, and appointed Democratic Senator Hollis French, a well-respected former prosecutor, to find an investigator.

Governor Palin stated she and her employees would comply with the investigation. French then hired Steve Branchflower, a former DA who most recently was hired by legislative Republicans to run the state's Office of Victims rights. And on Friday the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 3-2 (2 Democrats and 1 Republican in favor); and the House Judiciary Committee issued a 7 - 0 (5 Republicans, 2 Democrats) advisory vote, to issue subpoenas to witnesses the McCain camp had previously stopped from testifying.

Over the last two days McCain's outside operatives have vilified former prosecutor Hollis French -- as an Obama supporter who must have called this investigation to hurt the McCain ticket. But French was appointed to oversee the investigation by a 12 - 0 Legislative Council vote, and is probably the state's most respected legislator -- by Republicans and Democrats alike. He's so popular the Republican Party couldn't find anyone to run against him this year. They've called former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan -- a Native Alaskan who has served Republican and Democratic Administrations with honor, and put his life on the line in uniform- - "insubordinate." Odd, given that when Governor Palin fired him she offered him a different job. I guess being "insubordinate" was a job requirement for the new position. And they've challenged the independence of an investigator and former DA, who has no animus anyone can find.

Those Swift boat ads taught the McCain folks that if you say something untrue enough times, it can stick. My favorite moment of the week came when Governor Palin's attorneys filed a motion to dismiss Palin's ethics complaint against herself. Stay with me. Her attorneys have been buying the peyote, not me. See, on August 29 they needed to find a way to stop the Legislature's investigation. They tried asking the Republican leaders to call it off, and take one for the team. But the Senate President and others honorably said no. So they came up with an argument that the State Personnel Board -- 3 people appointed by Governor Palin and her Republican predecessor Frank Murkowski - had "exclusive jurisdiction" to investigate wrongdoing by the Governor.

The Legislature wasn't amused. So Governor Palin then filed a complaint against herself. That, they said, put "jurisdiction" in the hands of their friends at the Personnel Board. They argued that since the Personnel Board was now proceeding with an "investigation," the Legislature couldn't. To put icing on the cake, on Monday the Governor's attorneys moved to dismiss the Governor's case against herself. They said, and I loosely paraphrase again -- that they tried really hard and just couldn't find any evidence that the Governor did anything wrong. OK. I can't believe I just wrote that. And I wish it weren't true.

These are the things you have to do when your presidential candidate doesn't want his VP to honor a promise, and doesn't want evidence to come out before an election. These are the things you have to do if your folks aren't going to comply with a subpoena. That's because without spin the headline might read: "McCain Interferes With Investigation Palin Agreed To." How easy it is to re-write a headline. They learned that during the Swift boat campaign too.

All we can hope for is that members of the press will abide by what's taught in journalism school. Not to repeat the spin of political operatives without reporting the truth. Not to write "he said she said" stories, and pretend the truth is somewhere in the middle. But to report the facts. No matter how you spin it, Governor Palin promised to comply with this Legislative Investigation. McCain's folks got her to change her position. And the Legislature that voted for the investigation did so on a bi-partisan basis. End of story. End of headline.

Over the next few days McCain's folks will try to get local legislators to step in line, out of party loyalty, and reverse their vote to investigate Troopergate. But many local Republicans, like Senate President Lyda Green, have so far refused to play those politics. Stay for more from McCain's Campaign for "Change." They've tried to change the truth. They've succeeded at changing Governor Palin's promise to comply with this investigation. Let's see what they'll change next.

Rep. Les Gara, Anchorage, Alaska

Posted by: Rep. Les Gara, Anchorage, Alaska | September 18, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

What do you mean 50%?

Obama stank working for financial institution and had to quit after 1 year.

Obama stank at being a community organizer, saying it was one of the most unproductive and uninspired moments in his life.

Obama has said that all senator ever does is yak. But being a senator is all Obama has been.

This fish stinks bad.

Posted by: pete | September 18, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Eric:
"Vote for Obama and you will have DESTROYED Hilary's chance at becoming
President!!

Consider this:
If you elect Obama for 2008 , Hillary CAN'T RUN IN 2012!! The
incumbent always runs for their party in reelection.
Hillary will then be 69 when she gets a chance to run as democrat.
Then people will call her old(like they do McCain who is 72) and she
will NEVER become President.
Reagan was 69 when he got elected but he wasn't trying to break the
glass ceiling at the same time.
So if you care at all about Hillary, you will VOTE AGAINST Obama this
time around. Plus, you will break the glass ceiling and Hillary WILL
BE THERE in 2012!!
Think about it!! It makes sense!!
If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!"

Thanks genius, we appreciate your input. Now can can you plese go to bed and rest rest your brain, it must be hurting with all that deep thought.

Posted by: tom | September 18, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

uncle tom:
"obama will unify this country again. he will take from the rich and give to the poor. we can all be equal and get along and pretend that we're all the same. i like pretending."

And where do you hail from, George Wallace?

Posted by: tom | September 18, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Typical White Elephant:

"You won't have to pretend.
Dissent?
It will not be tolerated.
You will either have to agree not only in deed and word but in mind or.....else (like most of Obama's rhetoric the consequences for dissent have not been specified. Speculation? Higher taxes? Re-education?)"

I'm confused, your comment is mixed up and cryptic. Please be specific for us.
thanks

Posted by: tom | September 18, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

even if we dont like the ticket, Obama/Biden, we had just this week a scary senario of what will be our economy in the next 4 years if we we elect Mc-Cain/Palin. Let's at least try something else. They might do better and they might not but at least we give ourselves and the country a 50% chance.

Posted by: mau | September 18, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse


W h o

C a r e s

Posted by: T-Prop | September 17, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

obama will unify this country again. he will take from the rich and give to the poor. we can all be equal and get along and pretend that we're all the same. i like pretending.

Posted by: uncle tom | September 17, 2008 9:00 PM
************************************************
You won't have to pretend.

Dissent?

It will not be tolerated.

You will either have to agree not only in deed and word but in mind or.....else (like most of Obama's rhetoric the consequences for dissent have not been specified. Speculation? Higher taxes? Re-education?)

Posted by: Typical White Elephant | September 17, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Putting her e-mails up is too much. Journalists have become terrorists. I, too, hope she wins now. These psychos need to go down, and not just on each other back in San Fran.

Posted by: Ardy81 | September 17, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I was undecided this election, and tried to remain objective. How this Palin woman has been treated by the media is horrifying. I am sick of watching it. I am sick of them claiming a woman has not been "vetted" who has endured more pressure than either candidate in the race. This e-mail scandal is a blatant attempt to scare her out of the race. Stay in Sarah! I am not listening to them anymore. I hope you win, and I hope B.O. goes back to the potty he and his followers live in.

Posted by: Concerned | September 17, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Old boys' club = McCain Staff Meeting

OUCH!

Posted by: No Bailouts for Bimbos | September 17, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Eric wrote: "If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!" Why should one bet on the second horse? Obama won the primary race, don't you know that Eric? Asleep on Palin's lap?

Posted by: Tao Zen | September 17, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

n a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
This time the stakes are much higher then most people could imagine
I would like to point out some things You may already know with a new perspective.
I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
Is terrifying. He thinks it could get worse then the great depression.
Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world
Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms.
And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.
If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash
And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before
The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
And all of our economic future depends on them reorganizing these companies right.
Lehman, Merill Lynch, and Bear Sterns have survived for over 150 years and survived even the great depression
They are important because the are the biggest engines of growth in america and
they are connected to almost everything.
The last time the real estate market numbers looked this bad was during
The great depression and real estate often leads the way into major economic recessions.
One out of 10 Americans is somewhere in the foreclosure process.
During the last 8 years the average person saw there salary drop instead
Of increase. These are all facts no one will argue with.
The truth is we are only in the start of the worst economy we have seen in our generation
and a very real possibility of another depression.
Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it
He does not understand exactly what is broken. Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these
securities use complex math models very few people understand.
They are basically bundles of thousand of loans some good and some bad that are then given rules based on quantitiative
math. It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this, and the same things bush and mcain have done for the last 8 years
Have not worked so far and wont work in the future.
If you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always __________
90 percent of the time they have voted the same.
Please don't just take my word for it Start to read up on some of this yourself. MSN money, elliot wave and, bloomberg
Have tons of articles That prove we are in the heading into one of the worst economies any one has ever seen.
So why are the polls even close then ?
The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell personality instead
of results.
He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
Lets teach him we are smarter then that and elect the ticket that can
bring us back from the brink of a economic abyss.
If you think i am kidding do your own home work you will find
We are at the start of this mess not the end.
Mcain admits in the year 2008 he cannot use a computer even to send email
Its almost impossible then he will understand the complex securities such as cdos that are destroying wall street
and the home values on your street.
We are not bulletproof america it time to wake up and hold these people accountable.
How many people that you go out and have drinks with would you really want running the country?
Lets stand up and fight for our country now while it will still make a difference
Lets elect Obama Biden 08
Mccain straight out lied in his convention speech when he said that he would lower taxes for the common man while Obama would raise the taxes. Yes! Obama will raise taxes but not for the common man but for the wealthiest top 5% of the American people in which Mccain is included. And by the way political analysts agree that Obama's tax policy is more beneficial for the common man because he is going to decrease taxes for 95% of Americans which has to include the common man because a common man is not 5% of the American population.
!!!!!!!The Truth is Mccain lies and deceives voters like in his convention speech where he presented the incomplete truth about his policies.!!!!!1
By the Way Grant was also a military hero who won because of his character. And his term was full of corruption. Why?
it is because he had no clue about wat the common man experiences just like MCcain and Palin. Well for all of u who claim that Obama is too young and inexperienced and young to be president. Guess wat? Mccain is too old to be president and fighting as a soldier is different from commanding a whole country's army and handling the economy (which does not only depend on the fundamentals (workers) but on the policies of the president for investors to invest in a crashing economy)and Palin is the worst possible VP candidate because she has no foreign policy experience which is needed in diplomatic relationships with other nations which the VP is responsible for. And being incharge of the Alaskan National Guard which had no crisis to face is not a qualification to be 2nd to commander in chief.
Obama on the other hand is willing to go against issues because of his minimal exposure to the corruption in washington.
For example, he opposed the War in Iraq which mccain supported just because the oil prices would go up leading to more profits for people like Bush and others in washington who own an oil drilling facility.
Mccain is just like Bush who deceived the public and charged into the War in Iraq (very similar to Vietnam war which had no reason but destroyed that country). Mccain lied to the public in his convention speech on his and Obama's tax policy for the common man.
And Bidden is a very good choice for VP because the VP is supposed to be the invisible leader of the Senate and maintain diplomatic relationships with foreign countries( Bidden was in the senate in charge of Foreign policy)
i say Mccain would be a good VP candidate because of his foriegn policy experience and long time in the Senate but asking him to be president is going too far. Having good character does not mean he is right on policies ( especially regarding the economy and the common man).
Go Obama and Bidden the better qualified ticket for the Presidency and the VP.

Posted by: no mcain, Obama ticket is better qualified | September 17, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Vote for Obama and you will have DESTROYED Hilary's chance at becoming
President!!

Consider this:
If you elect Obama for 2008 , Hillary CAN'T RUN IN 2012!! The
incumbent always runs for their party in reelection.

Hillary will then be 69 when she gets a chance to run as democrat.
Then people will call her old(like they do McCain who is 72) and she
will NEVER become President.

Reagan was 69 when he got elected but he wasn't trying to break the
glass ceiling at the same time.

So if you care at all about Hillary, you will VOTE AGAINST Obama this
time around. Plus, you will break the glass ceiling and Hillary WILL
BE THERE in 2012!!

Think about it!! It makes sense!!

If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Eric | September 17, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

MORE HAS CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT PALINS ALLEDGED AFFAIR.
http://www.theveep.com

MORE PEOPLE SET TO TESTIFY IN TROOPER GATE
IS PALIN DONE? http://www.hotpres.com

DID PALIN VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES?? http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Alan Chernoff's CNN Report on Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Buying Influence in Washington DC- Guess who DID take their money in a BIG way (yep B. Obama):


"Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) spent over $94.8-million on lobbyists since 1998, making it the nation's 12th-largest lobbying client, while Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) bought $79.5-million of influence, the 20th biggest spender, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

"They wanted to fend off regulation of their enterprises," said Massie Ritsch of the Center.

Until recent months, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac largely succeeded in that effort - functioning with relatively little oversight as they aggressively grew their portfolio of mortgages to try to increase earnings.

Campaign contributions bought influence as well, including donations to the presidential candidates.

Sen. Barack Obama is the No. 3 recipient of Fannie and Freddie campaign dollars, having collected $123,000 from the companies since he first ran for the Senate in 2004, according to the Federal Election Commission and the Center for Responsive Politics.

The former chief executive of Fannie Mae, James Johnson, was the original head of Obama's vice presidential search team. Johnson resigned from Obama's campaign amid controversy over discounted home loans he had received.

Sen. John McCain has received $19,000 from the two companies in the past ten years."
________

That's $40,000 a year for Obama and $1900 a year for McCain- Wow, Obama what do you owe them in return?

Posted by: Scott | September 17, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Hacking and publishing Gov. Palin's Yahoo account was a bad move by who ever did it. If they had any real damning emails they should have released them up front because after today they will be of no value. People that support Obama will believe them and blog about how bad they are; McCain supporters will be outraged because it reinforces the premise that she is being treated unfairly; and undecided voters will not trust the content of any email message because they cannot be verified and for that reason, it supports the premise that she is being treated unfairly. Further, no one, liberal, conservative, or middle of the road American wants to see their privacy invaded.
Anything released will be denied and frankly cannot be proven. If you can hack the account, you can change the email message. My guess is in the coming days other emails will be released that will cast Palin in a bad light. John McCain’s camp and conservative media will say the messages have been doctored and the American people will believe them because in the end, the emails were stolen and who can trust a thief? The left leaning media will never be able to verify anything because no one will ever come forward to be interviewed because it will reveal their identity and if they get caught, they will go to jail. Again, if the media runs any possible story without verifiable proof it is further proof that the media is out to get her. This was a really stupid move. The risk in this case was much greater than any potential reward.

Posted by: Dr Jack | September 17, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

It is so unfortunate that some of you are unaware of the meaningful legislation that Senator Obama has sponsored and supported. When I see the lines from the Republican Convention on posts, it tells me that you believe what you hear, and obviously do no research of your own. That's why we will get what we deserve in this country if we elect someone who does not know about our economy, and is a hot-head when it comes to international affairs.

Posted by: Cryston, St. Louis | September 17, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

McPain's Phil Gramm has a lot to do with our current economic mess. See his contribution to America's debt here....

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9718_mccain_lehman_crisis_gramm.html

Want more Vote McPain

Posted by: william worrell | September 17, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google searches.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.
Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but it is already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if it is true that Obama has solicited OJ Simpson to bump off mutual opponent of both parties specifically tonight to win in November and election has little to do with issues and popularity?

Apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy and exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

Or will the GOP solicit Guiliani-like mob ties such used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner and was indicted and doing jail time today? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. whose conspiracy and murder trial is currently going on? BTW, OJ's kidnap and robbery trial is currently going on too.

Will both political parties engage in the popular law enforcement practice of "sweetheart exchange deals" where convicts commit crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits are not suspected?

If so, will OJ's trial get suddenly dropped and he walks away scot free as part of the sweetheart exchange deal?

Given this information, will we too have to worry about our physical safety? For example, will my husband have to worry about his life while jogging after work as is his routine tomorrow in the Hackensack, Bogota and Teaneck areas in NJ? Will I have to worry about my bus ride to and from the Port Authority tomorrow afternoon? Do we have to worry about being bumped off in the middle of the night inside our home as our habits and plans are known in advance because of various bugging devices both in private and public?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Washington Mutual is next.....

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Pete: You keep deluding yourself,,and keep throwing around that "socialist" sh*t.

Not this time.. Not this year.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Zingers do not equate to leadership potential. Where are the significant achievements of Sen Obama? His achievements are confined to election wins, but no legislative achievements. He has no executive experience. He wrote no bills, but two biographies. He is a trained politician, and poli sci major, and commuity organizer that is running as the change candidate. Obama is a politician, not an agent of change. Learn the facts at www.honestjohnwade.com

Posted by: www.honestjohnwade.com | September 17, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Equity markets sunk because people just realize that the usually Democratic ticket is not around this time.
Instead, they smell a fish stinking socialist.

Posted by: pete | September 17, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

The equity markets have lost over a trillion dollars in value over the last three days.

Two major mortgage lenders, Countrywide and Indymac are gone.

The two largest mortgage intermediaries, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been taken over by the government.

Three of the five giant investment banks on Wall Street no longer exist as independent entities.

The largest insurer in the world got an $85 billion loan from the Fed today. It had been unable secure it in the private sector.

Hundreds of billions of dollars of home value has evaporated.

We have an enormous federal budget deficit and external debt which can only be financed by foreign lenders.

Today gold prices had their greatest one day rise in history,

Today tens of billions of dollars fled the equity markets in 3 month Treasury bills at ZERO interest.

We are witnessing the impoverishment of America.

The Republican Party, which enabled all of this with their deregulation pipe-dreams now suddenly are for re-regulation.

The media was talking about lipstick and celebrity until last weekend.

Half of America thinks the world was created 7,000 years ago and are waiting for the rapture.

Where is our President?

Waiting for Jesus?

....and this Party wants 4 more years??

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Morgan Stanley reportedly in talks with Wachovia to do a merger.

Also in discussions with CITIC - the Chinese controled nvestment arm of the government

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Re:
Did you know that after graduating from Columbia University, Obama worked a year for a financial strategic consulting company Business International, where he received a thorough training in understanding how the Wall Street works? What is McCain's training on the topic?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:58 PM


"thorough training" you said. People who quited after one year from any job, repeat any job, are those who stank at it.

Posted by: pete | September 17, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

McSame? I prefer the slogan "McPain" to reflect just how a McCain-led administration's going to be.

Posted by: salamander | September 17, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

From the kinds of jokes I have read he said, it would certainly be appropriate to say that McCain is a good ol' boy.

Mr McCain this year in Sturgis, SD offered to enter his wife in the Miss Buffalo Chips contest in which woman compete in all forms of nudity but at least bare breasted. People in the area know that this group are rowdies and the locals who are not involved in business with them avoid them. Mr McCain not only campaigned with them, they are voters but he felt comfortable and participated in their good old\' boy behavior.

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

To anonymous of 9.52

Your whole argument rely on the single "C'mon" -- Could you please elaborate, if you can, or just say "Vote McCain" without this not quite succesful attempt at a reasoning?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't the media talking about the fact that Palin's husband is a seccessionist and she associates with the same seccessionist group he belonged to for years. Advocating that Alaska should seperate from the U.S. is borderline traitorism. Some love of country John McCain. How can you reconcile the slogan of the group they support - "Alaska First, Alaska Always" with your own campaign slogan of "Country First?" Is this going to be the Democrat's October surprise? Patriotic Americans should be outraged!

Posted by: Josh | September 17, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Who wants four more years of McSame? Why are the Republicans trying to stop the investigation in Alaska. I think voters need to know and understand both candidates and their running mates. At least Obama will represent ALL THE PEOPLE, not just some of the people.

Posted by: astrochicks.com | September 17, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Did you know that after graduating from Columbia University, Obama worked a year for a financial strategic consulting company Business International, where he received a thorough training in understanding how the Wall Street works? What is McCain's training on the topic?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

obama will unify this country again. he will take from the rich and give to the poor. we can all be equal and get along and pretend that we're all the same. i like pretending.

Posted by: uncle tom | September 17, 2008 9:00 PM

This comment shows the limited understanding of economics that this thinking shares with the McCain economic policy. With the financial service industry disrupted by the current crisis they will not beable to participate in the investment that is needed to invest the tax dollars of, as the poster calls them "the rich" but I will call the investors. Therefore investing tax dollars will be slow and job creation will be slow. Obama's policy which gives the tax break to the so called poor who I will refer to as the consumers but actually represents 95% of the American population. These tax payers will either spend the money which will stimulate the economy or pay off debt which will help the suffering financial industry or be saved in which case banks will increase their reserves at a low expense. Obama's stimulus to the economy will come from an infrastructure improvement program to take care of bridges etc. This investment can be given directly to the communities and will have an immediate effect on employment and will stimulate the economy.

McCain with his self proclaimed economic illiteracy does not understand this. There is no charity here just good common sense economics not political ideology.

Posts like this come from the cynical who learn their economics from talk radio who has no interest in the economy except as it affects their political agenda. This is how Washington needs to be cleaned up. Good economics needs to be separated from politics and John McCain can't clean that up because he is a participant. Good government and partisan politics must coexist. Bush has been the greatest offender in mixing politics and partisanship. McCain was silent. Sen Spector of PA could have used McCain's support when he did raise his voice. Republicans in general have been silent on the failure of the Bush administration and the only comments McCain has made have been supportive,

Mr McCain is trying to create a person who has never existed and I had been an admirer of his until 2004 when he started to become a garden variety Republican.

Not only your thoughts but your name indicates the well of ignorance from which you draw.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 17, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Well, Obama is getting worked up about the right issues. He is not getting angry, getting mad or getting over excited. He is just getting to work and getting it - what needs to be done that is. For the American people. And the notes at the end about the McCainites at his event. Well, just shows dissenting views are allowed. You won't see that at McCain's party. If you don't preach the party propaganda with McCain/Bush and co, you don't get in to the party. Or, if you do, you are thrown out fast.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 17, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Fight fascism, vote Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Attention U.S.A.:

Obama's "old boys school" comment on McCain reflected so badly on himself.

First, he made a comment a few weeks back of how he did not fit the "other" presidents on dollar bills. This indicated that he was very insecure about his race.

Now, he says McCain has an old boys school? C'mon! This guy is trying everything to win.

Reality Check: McCain is solidly holding several electoral college votes. If he wins Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, and Florida(all of which were won easily by republicans in the past and which he is doing well in), goodbye Nobama!!!!!!!!!

McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: Mindscape | September 17, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

WSJ Ditching McCain/Palin

McCain and the Markets

It's easy to see how a 21-year member of the U.S. Senate like John McCain, or even a Senate rookie, could regard Wall Street as a mysterious and distant planet. Indeed, on the evidence of the past few days, Senators McCain and Obama would appear to know more about Mars than they do about financial markets.

APOn Monday as these markets and the broader world tried to absorb the news about Lehman, Merrill Lynch and AIG, our two Presidential candidates spent the day trading punches over the meaning of the "fundamentals." After Senator McCain suggested that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong," Senator Obama mocked Mr. McCain's view of "the fundamentals."
We'll leave it to the debates to elicit just what each Senator regards as the "economic fundamentals" in a $13 trillion economy, but for our money the notable thing about the exchange was how fast John McCain let his opponent's sarcasm push him off message, such as it is.
One whiff from Barack Obama about "the mountain in Sedona where he lives," and by day's end Senator McCain was ranting about "corruption" and how he was going to "reform the way that Wall Street does business." Yesterday Senator McCain's inner populist had cooled enough to admit the existence of "honest people on Wall Street," but it still sounded as if this week's version of the McCain Presidency would be more about restructuring private financial markets he doesn't understand than fixing the Washington he knows.
Flip-flopping between assertions that the economy is fundamentally strong and populist promises to rip apart its financial plumbing creates confusion about what exactly Mr. McCain really thinks. His opponent, meanwhile, stayed on message, explaining Monday's events with the sort of dogged persistence reflected in the headline across the front page of yesterday's New York Times: "Wall St. in Worst Loss Since '01 Despite Reassurances by Bush."
Likening Monday's events to "the Great Depression," Senator Obama explained them by restating his campaign's core economic idea -- that what he calls the McCain-Bush "economic philosophy" is behind all these problems. His solution, laid out in detail in the Denver acceptance speech, is higher taxes on what he said Monday were "those with the most" and a return to the paternalist economic policies of the 1960s. In short, we become France, but with a higher corporate tax rate.
The problem with Senator McCain's blustery Wall Street broadsides is that they don't offer an explanation for what is happening. How is it supposed to reassure people to hear Mr. McCain intone, as he did yesterday, the words "derivatives" and "credit default swaps" as if it's the first time he'd ever heard of them?
Agree with it or not, Senator Obama is identifying a problem and a path toward solution. Mr. McCain needs his own narrative for how we arrived at this point. If he wants to run as the populist protector of the middle class, he has ample targets.
He could start with the perils of "easy money." The Federal Reserve's low interest-rate policies -- virtually free money -- created excesses in credit expansion that led to what all now call a credit bubble. That bubble has been bursting, from Main Street to Wall Street.
As well, it eroded the value of the "greenback," as Rudy Giuliani noted in his barn-burner convention speech. Every American knows something's gone wrong when the dollar's value drops way below currencies in Europe or Canada. True to his campaign theme, Senator McCain might ask since when has dollar "weakness" become an American virtue? Barack Obama won't do it, so Senator McCain has a chance to step forward and defend the purchasing power of middle-class budgets against inflation in the prices they pay every trip to the supermarket or gas station.
We'd also bet that most voters have a better understanding of the excesses that forced Washington to take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than what happened to Lehman and AIG. Greed is a big subject, and Senator McCain should train his message on the variety he understands best, in Washington.
Finally, Senator McCain should bring his worthy tax-cut plan out of hiding, and if anything refine it for immediate impact with an across-the-board income tax reduction. He then should ask, since when, as Senator Obama's proposals suggest, have we been able to tax our way out of economic trouble? If the U.S. economy is teetering on the edge of a recession or downturn, how has it become bad economics to propose a broad-based tax cut to revive the economy?
Wall Street right now is passing through a searing dose of market discipline and correction for its mistakes. After Monday's 504-point plummet in the Dow Jones index, it gained back 141 points yesterday. Barack Obama thinks he can win by explaining all this in terms of the Bush "philosophy." Mr. McCain is going to need a better reply than agreeing with his opponent about "greed" and Wall Street.

Posted by: nj | September 17, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain may love this country, but Plain's nomination puts in serious doubt that he is really concerned about its future.

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 17, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

The thing I like about Obama is that he does not get ruffled. Part of that is probably because he has a good grasp of the issues in this campaign. He gave a comprehensive speech about the financial crisis which could only have been given if he had been prepared for this possibility. McCain on the other hand was ranting about the greed and corruption of Wall Street. I know that he has a large number of financial service lobbyist on his advisory staff. With all that help he could only talk about regulation as if the purpose of regulation is to punish Wall Street.

The purpose of regulation is to keep markets orderly and the mortgage derivative market is anything but orderly. Obama understands, as for 26 years John McCain has not, that regulation is done to protect all Americans from the unintended consequences of a disorderly market not to punish Wall Street. In fact good regulation is done with the least disruption to the participants.

If John McCain has long been against regulation and does not understand its purpose how can he be trusted to do a credible job.

Posted by: David J | September 17, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

WSJ Ditching McCain/Palin

McCain and the Markets

It's easy to see how a 21-year member of the U.S. Senate like John McCain, or even a Senate rookie, could regard Wall Street as a mysterious and distant planet. Indeed, on the evidence of the past few days, Senators McCain and Obama would appear to know more about Mars than they do about financial markets.

APOn Monday as these markets and the broader world tried to absorb the news about Lehman, Merrill Lynch and AIG, our two Presidential candidates spent the day trading punches over the meaning of the "fundamentals." After Senator McCain suggested that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong," Senator Obama mocked Mr. McCain's view of "the fundamentals."
We'll leave it to the debates to elicit just what each Senator regards as the "economic fundamentals" in a $13 trillion economy, but for our money the notable thing about the exchange was how fast John McCain let his opponent's sarcasm push him off message, such as it is.
One whiff from Barack Obama about "the mountain in Sedona where he lives," and by day's end Senator McCain was ranting about "corruption" and how he was going to "reform the way that Wall Street does business." Yesterday Senator McCain's inner populist had cooled enough to admit the existence of "honest people on Wall Street," but it still sounded as if this week's version of the McCain Presidency would be more about restructuring private financial markets he doesn't understand than fixing the Washington he knows.
Flip-flopping between assertions that the economy is fundamentally strong and populist promises to rip apart its financial plumbing creates confusion about what exactly Mr. McCain really thinks. His opponent, meanwhile, stayed on message, explaining Monday's events with the sort of dogged persistence reflected in the headline across the front page of yesterday's New York Times: "Wall St. in Worst Loss Since '01 Despite Reassurances by Bush."
Likening Monday's events to "the Great Depression," Senator Obama explained them by restating his campaign's core economic idea -- that what he calls the McCain-Bush "economic philosophy" is behind all these problems. His solution, laid out in detail in the Denver acceptance speech, is higher taxes on what he said Monday were "those with the most" and a return to the paternalist economic policies of the 1960s. In short, we become France, but with a higher corporate tax rate.
The problem with Senator McCain's blustery Wall Street broadsides is that they don't offer an explanation for what is happening. How is it supposed to reassure people to hear Mr. McCain intone, as he did yesterday, the words "derivatives" and "credit default swaps" as if it's the first time he'd ever heard of them?
Agree with it or not, Senator Obama is identifying a problem and a path toward solution. Mr. McCain needs his own narrative for how we arrived at this point. If he wants to run as the populist protector of the middle class, he has ample targets.
He could start with the perils of "easy money." The Federal Reserve's low interest-rate policies -- virtually free money -- created excesses in credit expansion that led to what all now call a credit bubble. That bubble has been bursting, from Main Street to Wall Street.
As well, it eroded the value of the "greenback," as Rudy Giuliani noted in his barn-burner convention speech. Every American knows something's gone wrong when the dollar's value drops way below currencies in Europe or Canada. True to his campaign theme, Senator McCain might ask since when has dollar "weakness" become an American virtue? Barack Obama won't do it, so Senator McCain has a chance to step forward and defend the purchasing power of middle-class budgets against inflation in the prices they pay every trip to the supermarket or gas station.
We'd also bet that most voters have a better understanding of the excesses that forced Washington to take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than what happened to Lehman and AIG. Greed is a big subject, and Senator McCain should train his message on the variety he understands best, in Washington.
Finally, Senator McCain should bring his worthy tax-cut plan out of hiding, and if anything refine it for immediate impact with an across-the-board income tax reduction. He then should ask, since when, as Senator Obama's proposals suggest, have we been able to tax our way out of economic trouble? If the U.S. economy is teetering on the edge of a recession or downturn, how has it become bad economics to propose a broad-based tax cut to revive the economy?
Wall Street right now is passing through a searing dose of market discipline and correction for its mistakes. After Monday's 504-point plummet in the Dow Jones index, it gained back 141 points yesterday. Barack Obama thinks he can win by explaining all this in terms of the Bush "philosophy." Mr. McCain is going to need a better reply than agreeing with his opponent about "greed" and Wall Street.

Posted by: psr | September 17, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 17, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

"Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said."

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 17, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

In her acceptance speech, Sarah Palin approvingly quoted Westbrook Pegler, who among other things was a racist, an anti-semite and a fascist who advocated killing Robert F. Kennedy.

In Spanish, there is a phrase, "To s/he who understands, few words are needed."

Palin's literary choice speaks volumes about why her ignorance does not portend bliss for the American people and their ideals.

In this time of economic turndown, a moment when the search for scapegoats may be just around the corner, it might be wise to remember the words of author Sinclair Lewis, which hopefully will not turn out to be prophetic:

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 17, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama has stood firm on employee free speech rights, fighting to make sure that those who dare commit the truth on behalf public integrity, the taxpayer and national security are protected.

John McCain refuses to commit to real whistleblower protections.

Even now, conservative free speech groups are furiously lobbying him to take a stand, in part to try to neutralize Obama's leadership on the issue.

I know how important this is, having won the U.S. Office of Special Counsel's "Public Servant Award"--the highest award given in the federal service to whistleblowers and, in my case, the first one given to a national security whistleblower. [www.osc.gov/documents/press/2001/pr01_16.htm]

MORE THAN A "MAVERICK" AND HIS POSSE, MCCAIN AND HIS LOBBYIST CREW APPEAR TO BE THE "LOAN ARRANGERS."

What are his people afraid of?

A little ethical dissent in government?

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 17, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Obama just said McCain was part of the "old boy" network. Hyuk hyuk, ageism is sooo funny... I'd like to see if the Washington post would be so dismissive if McCain made a similar play on words in reference to Obama's skin color?

Posted by: Xaix | September 17, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

obama will unify this country again. he will take from the rich and give to the poor. we can all be equal and get along and pretend that we're all the same. i like pretending.

Posted by: uncle tom | September 17, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

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