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Palin Camp Points Fingers After Clinton Cancels Appearance at Iran Protest with Her

By Anne E. Kornblut and Colum Lynch
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has carefully avoided a showdown with Gov. Sarah Palin for the last few weeks -- and now her circle is infuriated by an attempt to lure the two into a joint event.

Clinton canceled an appearance at a rally next week in New York, which she had planned to attend in her official capacity as the state's junior senator, after the event's organizers surprised her by extending a last-minute invitation to Palin. Clinton had agreed to appear weeks earlier.

Clinton advisers said that the senator did not want to turn the rally, intended to protest Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's appearance at the United Nations, into a political circus by having the two women share the stage. She has attended the event before, and considers it important to her constituents, the advisers said.

In response, the McCain campaign on Wednesday accused Clinton of dropping out "presumably at the request of the Obama campaign" -- and used her change of heart as an opportunity to attack Obama over his positions on Iran.

"Instead of pressuring Senator Clinton to withdraw and pressuring the event's organizers to disinvite Governor Palin, we hope Senator Obama will consider lending his own voice to this cause. And if Senator subsequently wishes to clarify any remarks that might be misconstrued, he will have the opportunity to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without preconditions after he speaks at the UN the following day," McCain-Palin spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a statement.

The Obama campaign declined comment. Clinton advisers said the senator dropped out of her own accord.

While Palin has no record on issues involving Iran, one of her new advisers does: Mark Wallace, who is conducting her debate preparation, left his position as the Bush administration's US representative for UN management and reform earlier this year and became executive director of United Against Nuclear Iran, an organization established this summer to draw attention to Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

The organization, which was partially modeled on the Save Darfur Coalition, was set up by a diverse group of Republican and Democratic foreign policy experts, including former U.N. ambassador, Richard Holbrooke, Middle East trouble shooter Dennis Ross and former CIA chief R. James Woolsey. Its web site, which includes its mission statement, blocks public access.

The group will hold its first public event, a cocktail reception and film viewing, on Monday, at the Millenium Hotel across the street from U.N. headquarters. The event will take place hours after Palin is scheduled to appear at the Ahmedinejad protest. One of the protest's organizers, Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, denied Tuesday night that Wallace had arranged for Palin's participation in the event.

It is unclear how active a role Palin will play in next week's UN General Assembly gatherings. Senior UN officials said that the Bush Administration has not expressed any intention so far to bring Palin into the U.N. headquarters or to meet with U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon. She may, however, attend events organized by the U.S. government, including a Monday night dinner for President Bush and other foreign dignitaries at the Waldorf Astoria.

"If the United States wants to have her or anyone come as part of their delegation they can do that," a senior U.N. official said. "As long as they credential her she can come in: it's a U.S. call. But we have been blissfully out of the line of fire in the US political debate and we'd like to stay there."

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 17, 2008; 4:46 PM ET
Categories:  Barack Obama , Hillary Rodham Clinton , John McCain , Sarah Palin  
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Jews demanding war with Iran. Crazy people.
Most protesters are anti-war, These nuts are trying to start a war. I say send them to Israel.

Posted by: brian334 | September 18, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

What has happened to this country? The racism, sexism, ageism...the rage, fed by the media, is out of control. The candidates can hardly focus on any issues they're so busy attacking each other. I have never been so disgusted with this savage hatred. This country is in bad trouble in more ways than one. Just read the Post, that's their new journalism: fanning the hatred.Wake up and stop the hate before it's too late.

Posted by: jmoon1969 | September 18, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin gets educated by Neocons, said Patrick Buchanan:

Patrick Buchanan's recent article is a great starting point for discussion about Sarah and Todd Palin. He writes:
"Will the neocons who tutored George W. Bush in the ideology he pursued to the ruin of his presidency do the same for Sarah Palin?
Should they succeed, they will destroy her. Yet, they are moving even now to capture this princess of the right and hope of the party.
In St. Paul, Palin was told to cancel a meeting with Phyllis Schlafly and pro-life conservatives. McCain’s operatives said Palin had to rest for her Wednesday convention speech.
Yet, on Tuesday, Palin was behind closed doors with Joe Lieberman and officials of the Israeli lobby AIPAC. There, according to The Washington Post, Palin took and passed her oral exams.
“Palin assured the group of her strong support for Israel, of her desire to see the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and of her opposition to Iran’s aspirations to become a nuclear power, according to sources familiar with the meeting.”
AIPAC’s mission, like that of Likud, is to goad America into launching air and missile strikes on any and all Iranian nuclear facilities. AIPAC went away happy. Purred spokesman Josh Block, “We were pleased that Gov. Palin expressed her deep personal commitment to the safety and well-being of Israel.”
Heading home to Alaska to prepare for her interview with Charlie Gibson, Palin was escorted by Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s foreign policy guru and, until March, a hired agent of the Tbilisi regime.
Scheunemann’s lobbying assignment: Bring Georgia into NATO, so U.S. troops, like 19-year-old Track Palin, will be required to fight Russia to defend a Saakashvili regime that has paid Randy and his partner $730,000.
Reportedly, a phone conversation was held between Saakashvili and Palin, in which Palin committed herself to the territorial integrity of Georgia, though South Ossetia and Abkhazia have declared independence and been recognized by Moscow, which now has troops in both.
Also on Palin’s plane was Steve Biegun, formerly of Bush’s National Security Council, and Scheunemann’s choice to tutor her. Of Biegun, Steven Clemens of the New American Foundation says, “He will turn her into an advocate of Cheney-ism and Cheney’s view of national security issues.”
During her interview with Gibson, Palin often took a neocon line. Three times she said that, should Israel decide to attack Iran, the United States should not “second guess” Israel’s decision or interfere.
This contradicts U.S. policy. Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs, has warned Israel not to attack Iran, as the United States does not want a “third front.” And the Pentagon is withholding crucial weapons the Israelis want and need to carry out any such attack.
One ex-White House aide at American Enterprise Institute, asked by Tim Shipman of the Daily Telegraph if AEI sees Palin as a “project,” replied: “Your word, not mine. ... But I wouldn’t disagree with the sentiment. ... She’s bright, and she’s a blank page. She’s going places, and it’s worth going there with her.”
In fairness to Palin, on issues like NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia, her answers reflect the views of the man who chose her. She has no option at present but to follow the line laid down by Scheunemann.
But make no mistake. Sarah Palin is no neocon. She did not come by her beliefs by studying Leo Strauss. She is a traditionalist whose values are those of family, faith, community and country, not some utopian ideology.
Wasilla, Alaska, is not a natural habitat of neoconservatives.
Palin may disappoint many conservatives in the next seven weeks by having to parrot the McCain-neocon line on NATO expansion, NAFTA and a “path to citizenship” for illegal aliens. But the battle for Sarah’s soul is not over.
For, again, the lady is no neocon. Nor is the husband Todd, First Dude of Alaska and former member of the “Alaska First” Independence Party."

Can you trust the future of this nation in the hands of "She’s bright, and she’s a blank page"?
The policies of Bush-McCain exported the jobs away from my sons and daughters; the policies added future financial burden to my grand children , wage a war on the Middle East by borrowing money from other nations, and broke our national economy. Can you trust 4 more years of Bush-McCain?

Posted by: Saint Michael Traveler | September 18, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

buddy ky, I'm not into the PC stuff, but you really ought to seek anger management counseling, you've got some series issues.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 18, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

this is to all of you who think republicans are liars, let us look at, obama, lies to all about his policy on everything, then the clintons, oh wow! liars till the end, and teddy , not only a liar but look at all he has done in his past, and his brothers biggest liars in the world, and then johnson, whew!! and obama supporters , like the wonderful rev. wright, oprah,gag. and jesse jackson, sharpton, farrakon, and Babs, wow what a resume for a cesspool. all liars all the time. i left out carter, he was just plain stupid, wanted to give back alaska, and other parts of the country.

Posted by: buddy ky | September 18, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I have a feeling Mr. Will didn't include the first six years of the Bush administration in his figures. Remember that great freshman college textbook by Huff, "How to Lie With Statistics". It should be required reading for every registered voter.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 18, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

George Will on yet another reason to vote McCain/Palin-

"Divided government compels compromises that curb each party's excesses, especially both parties' proclivities for excessive spending when unconstrained by an institution controlled by the other party. William Niskanen, chairman of the libertarian Cato Institute, notes that in the last 50 years, "government spending has increased an average of only 1.73 percent annually during periods of divided government. This number more than triples, to 5.26 percent, for periods of unified government."

By picking Palin, McCain got the country's attention. That is a perishable thing and before it dissipates, he should show the country his veto pen."



Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Ed Schultz said it well yesterday. The McCain camp wants a photograph of HRC and Palin together to throw out there and make the case that HRC supports Palin. Lies lies, damned lies... that's the Republicans.

Posted by: Jack | September 18, 2008 6:40 AM | Report abuse

Palin’s refusal to cooperate with the inquiries about her e-mails or ‘Troupergate’ show Palin is NOT at all FIT to be VP!

America!: She is running for the ‘number two President’ position!

Yes, Americans should know all about her; and, McCain, the claimed, so-called reformer, should DEMAND HER FULL and COMPLETE COOPERATION and FULL DISCLOSURE, and NOW before we vote; ...remember were talking the USA’s next in line to be President, VP position!

See the FACTS: http://www.dailysource.org/palin

Oh and yea, she should not have been hacked; like she should have used a secure State e-mail account, so she could not be so easily hacked, but who’s fault is that ...Palin’s!; ...and you can write that in lipstick!


Like Bush, McCain has proven himself ...that he and his campaign will say anything for votes!


It’s clear that John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election!


McCain lies like ‘the same old Bush!’

McCain = Bush = McBush!

Posted by: Independent | September 18, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Jews. Always upset about somethin', ain't they? Every intelligence agency in the US tells them that Iran isn't nuclear. Not good enough for Jews. One wonders if they even care whether Iran is nuclear or not. You know how they are. Once they get something in their little heads, they won't let reason get in the way of their Hebrew Circle Jerks. What a stupid and tiresome group of crackers they are.

Posted by: Jews | September 18, 2008 5:25 AM | Report abuse

JakeD, you need to get back on your meds too. I would also say you have a repressed homosexual tendency which is the source of your anger and bitterness.

Come out of the closet JakeD!

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 18, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Rep. Gara:

Perhaps you haven't noticed the attacks on Alaskan resident, Sarah Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

MORE HAS CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT OBAMA'S ALLEGED HOMOSEXUAL AFFAIR AND ILLEGAL DEALINGS. JUST GOOGLE "Larry Sinclair" and "Tony Rezko"

Posted by: JakeD | September 18, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Rep. Les Gara, Anchorage, Alaska

Since Monday the McCain camp has stepped up its personal attacks against Alaskans. They've continued their D.C.-style tactics against neighbors in this small state. The game plan is to find an excuse to stop our Legislature's Troopergate investigation, and hide evidence McCain's folks really don't want to surface before November's election. It's been a little Karl Rove, and parts Laurel and Hardy. How else can you explain the following?
Friday the Attorney General's office promised state witnesses would comply with subpoenas the Legislature issued last week. Tuesday the Governor's Attorney General flip flopped, and announced that state witnesses wouldn't comply because, well, and I'm paraphrasing here - - he's changed his mind. And in what has to be an idea hatched after a 4th Martini at Chilkoot Charlies, Governor Palin's attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss the ethics claim she filed against herself two weeks ago. Yup. She really filed a complaint against herself. Tuesday she said she's discovered, after a thorough investigation of herself, that she's done nothing wrong. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Jon Stewart and Tina Fey?
It's silly season up here in the far north, but this week's moves are aimed at one thing: John McCain's effort to find cover for being disingenuous. See, before Governor Palin's nomination for the Republican VP spot, she did the honest thing. She admitted the evidence -- of roughly 20 contacts between her staff and husband with Public Safety officials, seeking the firing of Governor Palin's former brother-in-law -- might lead a reasonable person to the conclusion that the she misused her office to fire a state employee. So when Alaska's Republican-led Legislature called for an investigation, she did the honorable thing and said she and her staff would comply. She denies any wrongdoing.
Things changed on August 29 when Governor Palin was added to the McCain ticket. Since then his handlers have told her she can't testify. They don't want the evidence in this case to come out. They don't want her to testify under oath. They don't want other witnesses to testify under oath. So they have engaged in daily maneuvers to attack, as disloyal to the McCain campaign, anyone who wants the investigation to move forward. They've now attacked two well respected prosecutors, and perhaps the state's most highly regarded law enforcement official -- the Public Safety Commissioner she hired, and then fired, Walt Monegan.
Every day this week McCain operatives have sung the same tune. Today a guy with an East Coast accent, who knows nothing about Alaska, stood in front of a McCain-Palin banner to lead the attacks against people he doesn't know. At press conferences on Monday and Tuesday campaign staffer Megan Stapleton spit vitriol to repeat her argument that this investigation is really a "Democratic" attack on Governor Palin. See, that's easier than just saying their VP has reneged on her promise to testify. It's easier than just saying they don't want anyone testifying before the November election. It's easier than admitting they are stonewalling a legislative investigation. Oh -- and I know they hate partisan stuff. Yesterday 5 Republican legislators -- all allies of Governor Palin, all supporters of the McCain campaign, filed a lawsuit against the Legislature to stop the investigation.
Here are a few things MCCain's operatives failed to say. There are a few small facts that make it hard to style this as a Democratic investigation. One is that Alaska is a Republican State. We have a Republican Governor and a Legislature of 34 Republicans and 26 Democrats. This summer the Legislature's Legislative Council voted 12-0 (8 Republicans and 4 Democrats) to hire an investigator, and appointed Democratic Senator Hollis French, a well-respected former prosecutor, to find an investigator.
Governor Palin stated she and her employees would comply with the investigation. French then hired Steve Branchflower, a former DA who most recently was hired by legislative Republicans to run the state's Office of Victims rights. And on Friday the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 3-2 (2 Democrats and 1 Republican in favor); and the House Judiciary Committee issued a 7 - 0 (5 Republicans, 2 Democrats) advisory vote, to issue subpoenas to witnesses the McCain camp had previously stopped from testifying.
Over the last two days McCain's outside operatives have vilified former prosecutor Hollis French -- as an Obama supporter who must have called this investigation to hurt the McCain ticket. But French was appointed to oversee the investigation by a 12 - 0 Legislative Council vote, and is probably the state's most respected legislator -- by Republicans and Democrats alike. He's so popular the Republican Party couldn't find anyone to run against him this year. They've called former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan -- a Native Alaskan who has served Republican and Democratic Administrations with honor, and put his life on the line in uniform- - "insubordinate." Odd, given that when Governor Palin fired him she offered him a different job. I guess being "insubordinate" was a job requirement for the new position. And they've challenged the independence of an investigator and former DA, who has no animus anyone can find.
Those Swift boat ads taught the McCain folks that if you say something untrue enough times, it can stick. My favorite moment of the week came when Governor Palin's attorneys filed a motion to dismiss Palin's ethics complaint against herself. Stay with me. Her attorneys have been buying the peyote, not me. See, on August 29 they needed to find a way to stop the Legislature's investigation. They tried asking the Republican leaders to call it off, and take one for the team. But the Senate President and others honorably said no. So they came up with an argument that the State Personnel Board -- 3 people appointed by Governor Palin and her Republican predecessor Frank Murkowski - had "exclusive jurisdiction" to investigate wrongdoing by the Governor.
The Legislature wasn't amused. So Governor Palin then filed a complaint against herself. That, they said, put "jurisdiction" in the hands of their friends at the Personnel Board. They argued that since the Personnel Board was now proceeding with an "investigation," the Legislature couldn't. To put icing on the cake, on Monday the Governor's attorneys moved to dismiss the Governor's case against herself. They said, and I loosely paraphrase again -- that they tried really hard and just couldn't find any evidence that the Governor did anything wrong. OK. I can't believe I just wrote that. And I wish it weren't true.
These are the things you have to do when your presidential candidate doesn't want his VP to honor a promise, and doesn't want evidence to come out before an election. These are the things you have to do if your folks aren't going to comply with a subpoena. That's because without spin the headline might read: "McCain Interferes With Investigation Palin Agreed To." How easy it is to re-write a headline. They learned that during the Swift boat campaign too.
All we can hope for is that members of the press will abide by what's taught in journalism school. Not to repeat the spin of political operatives without reporting the truth. Not to write "he said she said" stories, and pretend the truth is somewhere in the middle. But to report the facts. No matter how you spin it, Governor Palin promised to comply with this Legislative Investigation. McCain's folks got her to change her position. And the Legislature that voted for the investigation did so on a bi-partisan basis. End of story. End of headline.
Over the next few days McCain's folks will try to get local legislators to step in line, out of party loyalty, and reverse their vote to investigate Troopergate. But many local Republicans, like Senate President Lyda Green, have so far refused to play those politics. Stay for more from McCain's Campaign for "Change." They've tried to change the truth. They've succeeded at changing Governor Palin's promise to comply with this investigation. Let's see what they'll change next.

Rep. Les Gara, Anchorage, Alaska

Posted by: Rep. Les Gara, Anchorage, Alaska | September 18, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Now, who is serving and who are parasites?

Posted by: Anonymous

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How conveniently self righteous. Hmm, Bush? Used political influence to take campaign breaks from serving in the Air National Guard, get drunk and carouse. Cheney? Just sends other people's kids to die.

Kerry? Decorated Vietnam Vet slandered by neocons.

Yup, them neocons are standup all right.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 18, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

MORE HAS CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT PALINS ALLEDGED AFFAIR.
http://www.theveep.com

MORE PEOPLE SET TO TESTIFY IN TROOPER GATE
IS PALIN DONE? http://www.hotpres.com

DID PALIN VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES?? http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Alan Chernoff's CNN Report on Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Buying Influence in Washington DC- Guess who DID take their money in a BIG way (yep B. Obama):


"Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) spent over $94.8-million on lobbyists since 1998, making it the nation's 12th-largest lobbying client, while Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) bought $79.5-million of influence, the 20th biggest spender, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

"They wanted to fend off regulation of their enterprises," said Massie Ritsch of the Center.

Until recent months, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac largely succeeded in that effort - functioning with relatively little oversight as they aggressively grew their portfolio of mortgages to try to increase earnings.

Campaign contributions bought influence as well, including donations to the presidential candidates.

Sen. Barack Obama is the No. 3 recipient of Fannie and Freddie campaign dollars, having collected $123,000 from the companies since he first ran for the Senate in 2004, according to the Federal Election Commission and the Center for Responsive Politics.

The former chief executive of Fannie Mae, James Johnson, was the original head of Obama's vice presidential search team. Johnson resigned from Obama's campaign amid controversy over discounted home loans he had received.

Sen. John McCain has received $19,000 from the two companies in the past ten years."
________

That's $40,000 a year for Obama and $1900 a year for McCain- Wow, Obama what do you owe them in return?

Posted by: scott | September 17, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

This was a pretty ridiculous and transparently partisan tactic on the part of the Republicans and organizers of this event. Trying to lasso Hillery into controversial support for a strike on Iran, which is exactly what the Zionists and neocons want. I'm glad that the Democrats caught the deception in time.

Posted by: Byron | September 17, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Response to:

Sarah Palin's horrible treatment of the Native Americans in America will not allow me to EVER vote for her.

cherokees.wordpress.com

Posted by: Lilian | September 17, 2008 9:59 PM


Palin marrying an Alaskan native (aka Indian), who seems very happy to empower a female, is an insult to which particular Cherokee male?


Posted by: Dotty | September 17, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Response to:
Palin was invited without consulting the entire committee organizing the event. Member organizations are furious at this ploy to give Palin this platform. If you want to make your voice heard, you can do so by signing the petition at

http://action.jstreet.org/t/3173/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=467

GO JStreet--the voice of liberal (most) Jewish Americans!

Posted by: Judy


Why does expression of free speech bother you so much?

If the lady didn't like the kook at the University, she is just like many of us.

We let him speak for crying out loud, and now you think it is a good idea to silence a woman running for an American political office?

Think girl think!!!!

Posted by: dotty | September 17, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Response to:It's bad PR for the Dems to have the two of them on the same stage- if HRC was not cordial it would be that the Dems are slighting/disrespecting Palin and if HRC was cordial there would be pictures and protests as there were when she said goodbye to S. Arafat- people would utilize the image to drive their own means that would have nothing to do with why they would be there- so it is bad politics to be on the same stage. Much better to not- this will be forgotten by tomorrow.


Posted by: Anonymous


HRC is not running for President or VP.
While she was running on her merits, there was something to protest.
Now that she is slogging forward for B. O.
it is his stance that counts, isn't it?
See what you have to give up to be a PARTY GIRL?
As the 1st on the ticket, he may not have a problem with terrorist types roaming the turf.
Maybe it is in a name for Barrack Husein Obama, but because of that name this no show will not be forgotten.

Facts are facts

Posted by: dotty | September 17, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin was invited without consulting the entire committee organizing the event. Member organizations are furious at this ploy to give Palin this platform. If you want to make your voice heard, you can do so by signing the petition at

http://action.jstreet.org/t/3173/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=467

GO JStreet--the voice of liberal (most) Jewish Americans!

Posted by: Judy | September 17, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering if anyone else was getting the feeling that there is paranoia in the McCain camp. It seems that when anything happens, it is all Obama's camp's fault (i.e. the troopergate investigation and Senator Clinton's refusing to appear at the rally.

I am really worried about having a person for president who has this conspiracy theory mindset. Who will he blame when things go wrong during his presidency?

Posted by: traci.eaton05 | September 17, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

FYI DID NOT POST THIS COMMENT:


Now, as my hormones boil and the fever takes my head and heart a-tumble, now, i think! O Men, ye who have scorned me, ye fear nothing but ye know me not, for I am Dotty, She Who Is Determined To Be On The Front Page Tomorrow! I blame sexism on Obama, all of it. My hot flashes, all of them. O Men, ye shall rue the day ye chose not The Pantsuit but rather The Black Guy!
I rise in fury, and howl my hatred to the Moon Goddess.
Hillary shall be revenged...

Posted by: Dotty | September 17, 2008 9:57 PM

MY RESPONSE TO IT:
Women have enough power to corrupt the vote.Get used to it, and get over it.

Hackers slashed Palin, now who are you?

Posted by: dotty | September 17, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Mullett,

I read your post.

Harms way ....
It is much more of a resume, than the jump to create a Government with mandatory service as was discussed at Columbia by Obama. His idea that not only the few should serve, but if one does all should, sound like conscription to me.
We learned in Vietnam that volunteers who believe that their job includes service to this Country make more willing soldiers, than drafted ones.
I was there when we thought defeating the draft was a show of power.
A leader who has been in war would work to never have it here, and understands people they order out might die. People who have served in battle, say it really is a matter of luck to return home.
A willing team keeps each other alive, so more engage the enemy properly at work, and come home.
The war we win today is simple.
American troops are good people, eventually that better person, is who the confused people caught in the middle run to.
Tides turn in war and politics to the less evil.
Palin understands war and the closeness of enemies.
Tell me how it hit any chord with Obama or Biden?

Michelle Obama was not at ground zero.
Jackie Kennedy would have had the kids there cued about respect for the victims of war, by putting their flowers down nicely.
Do you think women everywhere found Michelle AWOL respectable?

Posted by: dotty | September 17, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

It's bad PR for the Dems to have the two of them on the same stage- if HRC was not cordial it would be that the Dems are slighting/disrespecting Palin and if HRC was cordial there would be pictures and protests as there were when she said goodbye to S. Arafat- people would utilize the image to drive their own means that would have nothing to do with why they would be there- so it is bad politics to be on the same stage. Much better to not- this will be forgotten by tomorrow.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

A suggestion, why not schedule Senator Biden? You'll be sure to see the Republicans make hay if a Democrat ain't there...

Posted by: Hungrione | September 17, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's horrible treatment of the Native Americans in America will not allow me to EVER vote for her.

cherokees.wordpress.com

Posted by: Lilian | September 17, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Now, as my hormones boil and the fever takes my head and heart a-tumble, now, i think! O Men, ye who have scorned me, ye fear nothing but ye know me not, for I am Dotty, She Who Is Determined To Be On The Front Page Tomorrow! I blame sexism on Obama, all of it. My hot flashes, all of them. O Men, ye shall rue the day ye chose not The Pantsuit but rather The Black Guy!
I rise in fury, and howl my hatred to the Moon Goddess.
Hillary shall be revenged...

Posted by: Dotty | September 17, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Fight fascism, vote Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

dotty, go get laid, please

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Kay, my dearest of Deckers, the time to acknowledge our love publicly is now. Sherry Kay will no longer be any obstacle.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary is so intelligent how did she lose the nomination when she was a shoe in to a community organizer with no resume? She preaches bipartisanship but obviosly she is a typical hypicritical coward.

Just because Palin doesn't beleive in murdering unborn children and has done a great job as Alaska's governor with an 80% approval rating doesn't make her a bad person.

Palin would eat her lunch in a debate but thats beside the issue. This was supposed to be a show of unity by both parties to demonstrate Americas solidarity against Irans nuclear arms buildup. Hillary is putting her immense personal ambition ahead of what is good for world peace. Imagine that?

Obama and McCain were men enough to attend a function together honering the victims of 9/11 without any personal animosity or political posturing. They shook hands and exchanged pleasentries. This shows what a small insecure woman Hillary really is. In a word "PATHETIC"!

Posted by: donmac | September 17, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Response to :
Dotty, are you really Rush Limbaugh?

Posted by: AverageAmerican

No I am an X NOW delegate,
and a new X DEM, since the convention where organizers rushed around "silencing"
Hillary supporters.
When Clinton quit, and then assumed we would accept her demands to "silence" also, she misjudged why we were there.

Hillary might want to stay with femicidal abusers, but few think that is an acceptable option.


Posted by: dotty | September 17, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Hi Dotty, maybe down the road, you will wake up and realize the joke is on you.

don't fall for that republican fueled scheme

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16brooks.html?hp

An excellent commentary from a well known conservative

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

>>Martin Edwin Anderson: "In her acceptance speech, Sarah Palin approvingly quoted Westbrook Pegler, who among other things was a racist, an anti-semite and a fascist who advocated killing Robert F. Kennedy."

Oh God, who cares?

do you really think this is worse than hanging out with an actual terrorist who still likes what he did? With a racist preacher who publishes trashy hate-speech rants on the Internet?

Get a grip.

I hope the gloves come off and Obama is hit they way you all have gone after McCain & Palin.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 17, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

htruman: Based on your comment below, I take it you're an economist? Seems that many leading economists have agreed with McCain that notwithstanding the events of the past week, our economy remains stable.

Here's a few quotes, but I assume you know a bit more than these folks:

Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight said, "If the issue is whether the U.S. has a dynamic, resilient economy, and that the long-term trends are positive, I completely agree. ... It's important not to get carried away with gloom and doom."

David Wyss, chief economist for Standard & Poor's, said that while there is a serious financial-sector problem "the fundamental economy actually isn't in that bad a shape."

Please enlighten us...

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htruman wrote: why is it that you freaking automatons can never figure out that the whole economy does NOT hinge on favorable tax policy for the rich? honestly the last few weeks of economic turmoil hasn't expanded your understanding of the global mechanism known as the "economy" at all? not even the slightest??

Posted by: Alan Greenspan | September 17, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

So, if you put yourself in harms way, you're automatically educated on Foreign Diplomacy? Or, by having a child in the service makes you automatically a republican??
The Rebugnants have used your sons and daughters as a means to no end, a war based on lies, untruths, and mis-management, let the facts speak for themselves.
The fair weather GOP backers forget that it took over 4000 dead American Soldiers, billions of dollars wasted "rebuilding" Iraq, before anybody, including McShame thought about anythiong like a strategy change.
DID the SURGE WORK? of course it did, not by show of brute force, but by changing policy, putting a commander in who knew what needed to be done, and GETTING RID OF THE IDIOT RUMSFELD.Aint it funny how allmost immediately after he departed, the entire game changed over there?
So, if Hugging old GOPers and visiting the UN assembly gives you Diplomatic experience, WTF took the GOP so long to get all their experience to work???????????

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: Mullett | September 17, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Dotty, are you really Rush Limbaugh?

Posted by: AverageAmerican | September 17, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

To the person making this comment:
"please, vote with your uterus, not your brain!"
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Why shouldn't we?
Pricks have been voting for pricks since this Country began.

Women have enough power to corrupt the vote, so what is currently allowable as correct will change.

People want to vote about our rights over our bodies, but what might happen if women decide there should be legislation over the allowable size of men?
Mandatory surgery or elective might be the option of discussion regarding the male anatomy one day, if women act like what we are seeking to overthrow.
Shudder and shake, but women are united on this one.

Palin 2008

Hillary Clinton/ Maize Hirano 2012

Posted by: dotty | September 17, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Since Iran is one of the top oil producing countries in the world, maybe Palin will get a chance to get close to Ahmadinejad and start screaming, "Drill baby drill..."

Wow that would actually be a fascinating debate Palin vs. Ahmadinejad, a lot of screaming and blustering that would mean nothing in the end. I kind of envision their debate like something you would see in the WWF...lots of simple loud words, that mean zero, and have no bearing on reality...

Well maybe they can talk about religious extremism together, they are both fundamentalists.

Posted by: Palin lies more than Ahmadinejad | September 17, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Todd Palin, The Former Secessionist, Suggests Alaskans Are Not Americans

Had Michelle Obama said this – the presidential race would be a wrap!!!

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/09/17/todd_palin_the_former_secessionist_suggests_alaskans_are_not_americans.php

Posted by: Lame McSame | September 17, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

wake up, any tax increase finds its way back to the middle class, ther is no such thing as a tax increase on the rich, the rich will pass any cost onto us including any tax hike on them, the only way to lower our taxes is to contol spending, and its congress, not the president who are the problem, because they represent districts and each wants to get money for thier district any way they can, so I vote for the guy whos been trying to cut spending for years, MCCAIN AND NOT THE GUY WHOS been blocking him, BIDEN

Posted by: brordus | September 17, 2008 8:13 PM
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why is it that you freaking automatons can never figure out that the whole economy does NOT hinge on favorable tax policy for the rich? honestly the last few weeks of economic turmoil hasn't expanded your understanding of the global mechanism known as the "economy" at all? not even the slightest??

Posted by: htruman | September 17, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Why on earth should Hillary clear her actions with Obama beforehand?

Good grief, people...Obama is the Democratic Party's candidate, but he's not King of all Democrats! He doesn't hold supreme power over everything a fellow Democrat does or says.

Posted by: Hillary Palin | September 17, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will be an expert on foreign policy now! And what are her qualifications?

She could see the UN from her hotel room.

Unlike Obama, who couldn't see it from Chicago. Or Biden, who was too busy dodging the traffic.

Foreign policy eh? Great, lets discuss the most extreme measure of foreign policy - military intervention.

Obama? No military experience at all. I guess he said that he thought about it at one point - but it was probably too scary. Too many mean white people. Wait, that can't be it, because minorities are overrepresented, so that won't work - oh never mind,, CHANGE!

Biden? Serial draft dodger. Has one son who will serve as a lawyer in Iraq. Good for him - but not exactly military service.

McCain? Enough said. Also has children in harms way. Not reading law books and screwing fellow service members for doing their jobs.

Palin? Working mother. Exempt from serving. Would be on a pedestal, except she is not a commie, so she doesn't count.

Also has a child in harm's way.

Now, who is serving and who are parasites?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

oh goody, soon Sarah Palin will get a tour of the U.N. Maybe if she's lucky she can get a few autographs from some heads of state.

Posted by: guitaristo | September 17, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin’s is the worst choice to attend the rally as she has no credibility when it comes to the Israeli and Middle East conflict.

Gov. Palin, like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has been connected to ultra-radical extremists who believe crazy notions like terrorist attacks against Israel are god’s punishment of the Jewish people.

Lest we forget, Gov. Palin sat in her hometown church while crazy–and dangerous–anti-Semitic positions were preached to her and the congregation. Rather than object or leave—Palin just sat there and took it all in.

In addition, Gov. Palin quoted Westbrook Pegler in her convention speech! Pegler’s anti-Semitic views were so extreme the ultra conservative right wing John Birch Society expelled him.

Gov. Palin’s involvement will be a national disgrace as she has clearly demonstrated that she has no foreign policy knowledge, diplomacy, or grace.

Posted by: socalgal59 | September 17, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

It would definitely be way below Hillary's stature and intelligence level to even speak with that ridiculous woman.

Posted by: HESS | September 17, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Had these two been male, would their conjunction have been unthinkable?

Even so, I'm with Hillary. The McPalinacs are trying to take advantage of her.

Posted by: Strut Oak Palin | September 17, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

So who are these thinking they are by hiding their websites. Let's hope someone frees their site.
PS It should be Palin/McCain.
Palin should be on top.

Posted by: Real JakeD | September 17, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, Mike. I think you are dead wrong about Gore coming back into politics in 2012. Al Gore already won a presidential campaign. He has repeatedly expressed a complete lack of interest since then about running for president ever again.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I will never support Hillary if Obama loses this campaign.

She has to go 100% behind Obama, and so do her supporters.


If Obama loses, Hillary will never get my vote for dog catcher.


Hillary wouldn't stand a chance anyway. Al Gore would definitely run in 2012, and leave everyone in the dust.

Hillary's presidential hopes are 100% over.

100%

Posted by: Mike a Whiteguy | September 17, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry, Dana! We know that the asinine post at 8:36 was not made by you ... but instead by a coward. And a not very intelligent one at that.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

So what you are saying Eric is that Hillary is too weak to win against Obama in 2012, so we should risk the supreme court, abortion rights, the economy, and possible having Palin takeover for a frail McCain?

I think not, I have a lot of respect for Hillary and I suspect she will not lose to Obama again.


"So if you care at all about Hillary, you will VOTE AGAINST Obama this time around. Plus, you will break the glass ceiling and Hillary WILL BE THERE in 2012!!

Think about it!! It makes sense!!

If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Eric | September 17, 2008 7:17 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Clinton has done Obama a real disservice by not attending this event. It's as if the Democrats don't care because they can't play nice on the play ground, how childish.

On a side note, Obama is not black, he is biracial, if he were black he would not have white grandparents.

Posted by: Alice | September 17, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Clinton is smart, too smart, to be a pawn in the Republican desperation campaign.

Republicans will believe anything, it has been scientifically proven.

See earlier story about the gullibility of Republicans printed in this paper a few days ago.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Was anyone aware that the bridge to nowhere actually was a bridge to Wasilla, AK. Sarah Palin was the mayor of nowhere.

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

It is like life imitating art.

In the SNL skit, "Clinton" said "And I was told I'd be addressing you alone."

That's pretty funny. (But sad, too).

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 17, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

In her acceptance speech, Sarah Palin approvingly quoted Westbrook Pegler, who among other things was a racist, an anti-semite and a fascist who advocated killing Robert F. Kennedy.

In Spanish, there is a phrase, "To s/he who understands, few words are needed."

Palin's literary choice speaks volumes about why her ignorance does not portend bliss for the American people and their ideals.

In this time of economic turndown, a moment when the search for scapegoats may be just around the corner, it might be wise to remember the words of author Sinclair Lewis, which hopefully will not turn out to be prophetic:

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 17, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Jake D: Why should Hillary clear anything with anyone? Hillary Clinton has always made clear that she is her own person. Of course, she supports Obama 100%. But that doesn't mean that Hillary needs Obama's permission to cancel an event to appear with a woman that is nowhere near her equal. You may consider it a reasonable assumption that Hillary Clinton would clear this with the Obama campaign, but I believe that you are clearly wrong in that assumption.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Louise Palin will head up the commission to investigate the cause of the economic crisis with Will-i-am, Barbara Streisand, Jack Abramoff, Sen James Imhoff to add gravitas and former Sen Phill Gramm who will write the report after it has been properly "put into context"

Posted by: Jimmy | September 17, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Kay Decker (fake or not):

I certainly hope that Hillary cleared this move with someone at the Obama campaign -- I think it's a reasonable assumption -- she's not THAT stupid to leave herself open to denials / blame from Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous posted: "Another Republican operative. AND BTW: If Hillary and her supporters lend tepid support and Obama loses it will not be forgotten by 2012, in other words, Hillary's train has left the station."

It couldn't have been said any better!!! What I want to know is: Does John McCain foolishly believe that he is going to capture even a token number of Hillary supporters just because he mistakenly chose Palin as his VP? Is John McCain such a dunderhead that he actually believes that female Hillary supporters will simply abandon all the reasons that they actually supported Hillary in the first place ... just so they can vote with their uterus? John McCain may underestimate the American voter even more than George Bush does!!!!

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh's trained robot bloggers are numerous, but they are SO easy to identify. Their comments have a ceratin smell, no matter who's name they are using.

No matter, they will soon be crying into their oxicontin. Anyway, feel free to use the name "Donny"...it doesn't shout, "desguised as an angry Hillary supporter", but I'm pretty much done on this blog.

Obama 2008.
Clinton for Supreme Court Justice 2009.

Posted by: Donny | September 17, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

"If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!
Posted by: Eric | September 17, 2008 7:17 PM"
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Another Republican operative.

AND BTW: If Hillary and her supporters lend tepid support and Obama loses it will not be forgotten by 2012, in other words, Hillary's train has left the station.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

wake up, any tax increase finds its way back to the middle class, ther is no such thing as a tax increase on the rich, the rich will pass any cost onto us including any tax hike on them, the only way to lower our taxes is to contol spending, and its congress, not the president who are the problem, because they represent districts and each wants to get money for thier district any way they can, so I vote for the guy whos been trying to cut spending for years, MCCAIN AND NOT THE GUY WHOS been blocking him, BIDEN

Posted by: brordus | September 17, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Will whoever made a post in my name at 8:01 p.m. please refrain from doing that in the future? I am more than competent to speak for myself. I've been doing it for enough decades now that I've got it down pat. Yesterday, there was a poster (or perhaps even more than one) that kept posting in other people's names. If you have something to say, say it in your own name. If you are too cowardly to put your own name to a post -- most likely because you lack the courage of conviction -- then don't post on this site. But if you have something to say, say it! Say it proudly! Just don't use other people's names.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Ah anonymous, before you start trivializing how bad the U.S. economy has been ruined by Bush/Cheney, perhaps you should ask Alan Greenspan.

Greenspan was quoted as describing the most recent events as a "once in a century event". No gloom here.

Want more of the same? Vote for McCain!

Posted by: Donny | September 17, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

"Here's another newsflash: the Governor of California (my home state) is illegible to be elected President."
JakeD

I believe you meant to type "Ineligible", not "illegible"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, not only would Hillary and Palin have appeared but Elie Wiesel (you know the Holocaust survivor?) would be sharing the state.

I hope Palin appears as scheduled.

Posted by: Typical White Elephant | September 17, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

"Saying the economy is a mess is not the same as gloom and doom that Obama is spewing"

Maybe you should ask Alan Greenspan's opinion.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Someone keeps hijacking my post name.

I was Dana as posted.

I am now Dana 1. I am black and I agree with Laila. BLACK POWER AT LAST!!!

Posted by: Dana 1 | September 17, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Right on Laila! Black Power!!

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

To JohnC: "So now the McCain campaign is sending Sarah Palin to stalk Hillary Clinton?"

No, definitely not to stalk Hillary Clinton. McCain just wants Sarah Palin to ride Hillary Clinton's coat tails. McCain is desperate to win over independents and women. Putting Palin up on the stage with Clinton makes it seem as though Palin is on a par with Clinton. Palin is not, but McCain is hoping that the image will stick with female voters ... who McCain (as per his usual) underestimates by believing that women will simply vote for a woman because she's a woman if presented with the choice. Yet another incorrect assumption that McCain makes.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

The person who posted as Laila is not black but is another Wicken.

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

when Hillary is useful, Palin compliments her. when Hillary is not her cup of tea, pointing fingers everywhere.

and presumably? no factual base? a word so often used now and i don't want to see any presumably policy or even worse, a presumably qualified VP running the country. i'm a woman who doesn't side with parties but i want to vote for the most qualified (in various aspects) president!

Posted by: abc | September 17, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Good for Hillary, the focus of that event should stay on Iran and not on a political circus. The Palin/Republican response is as predictable and manipulating as always.

This is a very interesting read concerning McCain's choice of Palin and Republican manipulation from an unusual and surprising religious perspective. I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 17, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

To JakeD: First, and once again, you substitute your own twisted fiction for the facts of this case. Hillary Clinton isn't scared; more likely she's disgusted by the fact that she would have to share the stage with some inexperienced, uninformed foreign policy neophyte. And who can blame her? Second, you insist that it was the Obama campaign that told Hillary not to appear. There is no proof of that.

But, please, by all means storm ahead with your wishful thinking. I actually find it quite amusing that Republicans have filled themselves full of so much hot air because McCain was up in the polls for a few days. And now McCain's poll numbers are coming back down. So much for the Palin bump!!!!!

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Josephine. I’m just sick of people pulling out the race card on Obama. He will be a great leader! BLACK POWER!! BLACK POWER!! You people aint seen nothing yet!

Posted by: Laila | September 17, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Palin should just get the message...Senator Hillary Clinton will have nothing to do with the likes of Palin. Clinton refuses to be used as an object by GOP lies and spin propaganda.

So, Palin, You cannot hitch a free undeserving ride on Hillary's hard won reputation. You may actually have to be seen for what you really are: Dick Cheney in a dress.

Posted by: Donny | September 17, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Laila:

Hallelujah, Sister! Black Power at last!

Posted by: Josephine | September 17, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe some of the posts here. You people are wimps! Why don’t you say what you really mean? Obama is for real change! I know he is black and comes off as an elitist, but hey, he’s earned it!

Think of all the things he’s done, especially for black people! Just wait you moron lipstick wearing pigs, ,you right wing idiots, Obama is going to take care of his own! Finally, black people will have a strong voice in the so-called usa!

Posted by: Laila | September 17, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Christain but if I were I would vote for Obama because Palin seems to be a Wicken.

I am the original Dana.

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

So now the McCain campaign is sending Sarah Palin to stalk Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: John C | September 17, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

CarolBG wrote: "Maybe someone that will honor gay and lesbian rights for once!"

Sorry, I'm a little late to this thread ... but are you referring to Gov. Palin as someone who will honor gay and lesbian rights for once? If so, sorry to disappoint you, but Gov. Palin is actually even more to the right of W! So, no, Gov. Palin will not be honoring the rights of gays or lesbians or women who want to make personal decisions about what to do with their own bodies. (My apologies if you were referring to someone else!)

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

As a young Asian woman, I have been raised to respect all people.

I have a great respect for all the candidates, and the fact that they are willing to run for office.

I like Palin because she is feisty and down to earth. McCain is worthy of my vote.

I have never voted before and am looking forward to seeing what happens in November.

Posted by: Judy Yung | September 17, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Vote for YOUR history - vote for YOUR advancement - vote McCain/Palin '08!

Working Mother and Democrat proudly cheering on women's history!

Posted by: Wake Up WOMEN! | September 17, 2008 6:50 PM
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Vote for someone who will not support any of OUR rights!!!

MCCAIN-PALIN 08 The ticket for the Stupid!!

Posted by: Laila | September 17, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Kay Decker:

Since Hillary was too scared, that's exactly what you are going to see Monday. I am shocked that the Obama campaign didn't want Hillary out there fighting with Palin. Oh well, their internal polling numbers must be worse than I thought.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I am choosing Obama because he is, to me, like Jesus. No, really!
He speaks of kindness to our enemies, making us all equal and having everyone in the world equal. Equal pay for everyone. Taxing the rich and making them pay their fair share!

That’s why I’m for Obama!

Posted by: Dana 1 | September 17, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Saying the economy is a mess is not the same as gloom and doom that Obama is spewing saying that we're in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. Do people remember in 1980 when interest rates were well over 10%, as well as unemployment and inflation? That's almost double the numbers we have today. Yes, the housing market is imploding, but people have been predicting that for years. If anyone is to blame it's Alan Greenspan's loose monetary policy when he was chairman of the Fed that has put us in this bind. It incented banks to behave irrationally. Now, that doesn't mean the banks are frauds. It just means that the execs made very poor financial decisions which hurt shareholders and employees.

Posted by: anonymous | September 17, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

All right, who is trying to hijack my posts?

I am going to switch to Dana 1.

For all of you McCain Women Pigs wearing lipstick, go to hell if you think you're going to get my vote!

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin told Fox News that the economy is a mess - well, my five year old grandson told me that yesterday. Actually, my five year old grandson is smarter then Palin because he added that too many people live on charge accounts

Posted by: mzbond | September 17, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Some poster suggested that Democrats are afraid of little ol' Sarah Palin? What's to be afraid of? The only thing that Sarah Palin represents is the inability of Republicans to put country first. McCain's desperation to pull his campaign out of the crapper is what pushed him to make such a reckless choice as Sarah Palin.

As for Hillary Clinton opting not to share the stage with Sarah Palin? I don't blame her! Why should Hillary Clinton allow Sarah Palin to stand on Hillary's shoulders, because you know that any serious discussion of Iran's nuclear ambitions is going to have to be made by Hillary Clinton. ... It sure isn't going to be made by Sarah Palin!!!!! So why should Hillary wear herself out carrying around the dead weight of Sarah Palin? I will love to see Sarah Palin out there, all on her own, trying to discuss intelligently Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 17, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Eric:

LBJ was an incumbent who did not run.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

What is all this hate stuff? I heard them talking about it on the news but I had no idea that this is what you have lowered yourselves to.

Sound like a bunch of uneducated school children...all of you, both sides.

Posted by: Cindy L. | September 17, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Washington:

Good post. I've never said it is "unfair" to ask hard questions of Governor Palin. It is "unfair" to ask her SEXIST questions like "Can you be Vice President and raise kids?" -- Charlie Gibson asked her if that was a sexist question -- especially when NO MALE CANDIDATE has ever been asked that. Nonethless, I think she did just fine. She has my confidence.

Bottom line, I know enough to satisfy myself that Gov. Palin would make a fine President -- I don't have to wait 4-8 years -- maybe you don't read enough newspapers? Here's another newsflash: the Governor of California (my home state) is illegible to be elected President.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

"I don't know if Palim can even find Ireland.

Come to think of it, I don't know if I can find it either. Guess I'm just a pig with lipstick!

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:02 PM

There are 2 Dana's posting here, I am quite confident that the McCain as part of their briefing her showed her the location of all the places she has been to. They probably showed her that Russia was in Europe as well as Asia, since her familiarity with Russia is that which see can see from Alaska.

I am going to switch to Dana 1

Posted by: Dana 1 | September 17, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Vote for Obama and you will have DESTROYED Hilary's chance at becoming President!!

Consider this:
If you elect Obama for 2008 , Hillary CAN'T RUN IN 2012!! The incumbent always runs for their party in reelection.

Hillary will then be 69 when she gets a chance to run as democrat. Then people will call her old(like they do McCain who is 72) and she will NEVER become President.

Reagan was 69 when he got elected but he wasn't trying to break the glass ceiling at the same time.

So if you care at all about Hillary, you will VOTE AGAINST Obama this time around. Plus, you will break the glass ceiling and Hillary WILL BE THERE in 2012!!

Think about it!! It makes sense!!

If you support Hillary, YOU MUST VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Eric | September 17, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

As a moderate independent voter I say:

What's the big deal to appear with her at a rally against Iran? Why does it have to be political? Isn't stopping a nuclear Iran something that the democrats (at least hillary Clinton did during the primaries) and republicans agree on? Maybe their methods for containing Iran are different, but surely their goals are similar. Why couldn't they both go and stand together on their common ground?

I really think this looks poorly of Sen. Clinton and as an extension Sen. Obama. It shows me that the Democrats are way more partisan then they would like the voting public to believe

Posted by: anonymous | September 17, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Palin couldn't find New York!

Posted by: idiot | September 17, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Another thing, Hillary is just as much a witch as Palin!

I think she should have faced Palin, but instead she turned and ran...embarrassing!

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

She does speak well and seems to know more than what I thought. I certainly don't like the choice we have. Maybe someone that will honor gay and lesbian rights for once!

Posted by: CarolBG | September 17, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

"What Clinton was too polite to say was that she wanted the pit bull, lipstick or not on a leash or she would not chance a rabid attack."

My wife pointed out to me after she read my post that Sen Clinton may have a flea allergy.

Posted by: Delmar | September 17, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is guilty of sexism. They accused Hillary Clinton of not being able to make up her own mind of whom she wants to appear with.

Wake up women McCain has made bawdy sexist jokes for years and the appointment of Palin was to get her ready to run in 2012. Palin is a deep down anti-feminist opportunist who cares nothing about anything except herself, her family and her friends.

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if Palim can even find Ireland.

Come to think of it, I don't know if I can find it either. Guess I'm just a pig with lipstick!

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes please, vote with your uterus, not your brain! This is some of the best sexist pandering I have seen lately, bravo!

"Come on women - are so low self esteem and so gullible to believe that people telling you to vote against your gender are doing so for your betterment? Do you hear African American leaders telling African Americans to vote against their peers?

Come on women - WAKE UP to the sexism and bigotry of this campaign. Either stand up for your gender or get used to 10 years of lipstick jokes thanks to good ole boy Obama.

Vote for YOUR history - vote for YOUR advancement - vote McCain/Palin '08!

Working Mother and Democrat proudly cheering on women's history!

Posted by: Wake Up WOMEN! | September 17, 2008 6:50 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I am embarrassed to read these posts and say I am a Democrat.

You people need to go outside and take a breather.

If we loose this race to McCain…blame yourselves.

Posted by: Blown Away | September 17, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Bush is a great guy, he is introducing her to the exotic like of New York City. She can add that to Ireland where she made a fuel stop on the way to Kuwait as places in this world that she has been to.

Watch out Sarah, too much familiarity with foreigners in New York City and your unworldliness will only be an act.

Posted by: Dana | September 17, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote:
"She sat down with Charlie Gibson (ABC) and has announced she will do the same with Katie Couric (NBC). After she does Brian Williams (NBC), and the October 2nd debate, will that be enough for you? How long did it take for Obama to sit down with Bill O'Reilly?"

The significant difference is (whether you like or agree with) Senator Obama is that he went through primaries and caucuses against other candidates; the people had a chance to learn about him over an extended period and decide if they want him or someone else to represent them as a candidate. After all the primaries and caucuses were over, he emerged as the candidate of choice.

In the case of Governor Palin, after Senator McCain became the presumed candidate, Senator McCain (and a small gorup of his staff and/or supporters) selected Governor Palin, and candidate for the Vice Presidency that few people heard of or knew about, let alone knew of her poicies or platform. Governors Romney and Huckabee (and other GOP candidates for the Presidency) and others mentioned as possible Vice Presidential candidates (whether you like or agree with them) have been publicly vetted; that is, people knew where they stood as possible candidates.

It's not entirely unfair to ask hard questions of Governor Palin, someone possibly one step away from the presidency (and, and it's important, one step away from a Presidential candidate who is both elderly and has has a history of medical problems) about things people might like to or should need to know. If Senator Obama was in Senator McCain's shoes, both elderly and with a history of medical problems, wouldn't you want to know who might assume the Presidency should President Obama not complete his term of office? Or would you simply prefer to say, "I don't care whoever might assume office?"

Whether I agree Senator McCain should or should not be President, I would prefer he chose someone I could feel more confidence in than someone who is the governor of a sparsely populated state, with limited broadbased obligations (in comparison to, say the governor of Michigan, California, Texas, the Mayor of Boston or New York City, etc), and who, prior to that, was a small town mayor.

No one is saying that she cannot do the job, no one is saying she can't manage family and work, but we're not talking about her being a bottom line governor or someone who is good at runnign a small business; we'er talking about someone who has to be considered as being able - and as qualified as possible - to be the President on a moment's notice. Identifying herself as a hockey mom (whatever that means) isn't what I want to hear. Beter Senator McCain chose someone that had better credentials other than what Governor Palin has shown so far. Simply being a "maverick" isn't enough; it's one thing to be a maverick when you're one of many (be it in the Senate or elsewhere); it's another thing to be a maverick when you're the President; there's a consitituency of 300 million people who need to know that you are doing what you're doing in a reasoned manner and with understanding of diverse needs and requirements.

And, and I'm speaking as a long time registered Republican, Governor Palin, so far, hasn't shown me or given me confidence that she's qualified to assume the Presidency on a moment's notice.

And, I'm tired of hearing, as some people have written, we'll learn all we need to learn about her after she's elected, or that given four or eight years in office as Vice President, she'll be more than qualified. My concern is what happens election day and the days following the election.

I may agree with many of the positions of my party's candidate (Senator McCain), but overall (and while I disagree with much of Senator Obama's positions), I have more confidence in his overall platform and his Vice Presidential candidate.

I'm not being a traitor to my party, but my faith in country tells me that Senator Obama, with Senator Biden in waiting, is a better candidate for the Presidency.

Posted by: Washington | September 17, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...looks like we have 48 more days of suffering this embarrassing ticket? She didn't manage to get through her first interview w/a friendly anchor lobbing softball questions to her, without demonstrating painfully her lack of qualifications. Now, they're going to put her on an international stage? Ah well...deep breaths...

Posted by: CarolBG | September 17, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Tell me what woman can read this statement and not be offended: "into a political circus by having the two women share the stage."

Come on women - are so low self esteem and so gullible to believe that people telling you to vote against your gender are doing so for your betterment? Do you hear African American leaders telling African Americans to vote against their peers?

Come on women - WAKE UP to the sexism and bigotry of this campaign. Either stand up for your gender or get used to 10 years of lipstick jokes thanks to good ole boy Obama.

Vote for YOUR history - vote for YOUR advancement - vote McCain/Palin '08!

Working Mother and Democrat proudly cheering on women's history!

Posted by: Wake Up WOMEN! | September 17, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

What Clinton was too polite to say was that she wanted the pit bull, lipstick or not on a leash or she would not chance a rabid attack.

Posted by: Delmar | September 17, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse


What's the difference between a frat boy president who is clueless about the world and a governor who has a fly over foreign policy? The lipstick.

Posted by: PatrickInBeijing | September 17, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Every time I heard Palin say Eye-Rack vs. Ear-Rack I knoew somewhere Christiane Amanpour was gritting her teeth.

Maybe they can spell it out for Palin, like New-Clear.

"President Ahmadinejad, he is from Iraq...no, no, not Eye-Rack."

Posted by: Alaskan | September 17, 2008 6:40 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Alaskan:

Ahmadinejad is from Iran, not Iraq. Also, I did hear Gov. Palin say early this year that she fully supported President Bush's plan for Iraq. Does that qualify as "one single (important or intelligent) thing that Palin has said about international policy (prior to her VP nomination)"?

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I am a VERY pi$ssed off, lesbian, with little education and yes I am a White woman and I too, am sick and tired of that horrible witch, Palin!

Posted by: Angry white woman | September 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

"It is unclear how active a role Palin will play in next week's UN general assembly gatherings." What a farce. I dare anyone out there to find one single (important or intelligent)thing that Palin has said about international policy (prior to her VP nomination). I'd love to be in on her "cram" sessions. "Now Sarah, this is President Ahmadinejad, he is from Iraq...no, no, not Eye-Rack."

Posted by: Alaskan | September 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

" we hope Senator Obama will consider lending his own voice to this cause. And if Senator subsequently wishes to clarify any remarks that might be misconstrued, he will have the opportunity to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without preconditions after he speaks at the UN"....................
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Oh yes! Let's have that happen and get lots of photos. Maybe they can yuk it up about the coincidence of our election day falling on November 4th the same day the Iranian President and his pals took over our embassy in 1979 holding them hostages.

Posted by: American | September 17, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Palin could stay home and Tina Fey could go in her place. Everybody wins.

Posted by: Marimom | September 17, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Today gold prices had their greatest one day rise in history.

Today mondy fleeing the equity markets went into 3 month treasury bills - at ZERO interest - looking for a safe place.

Where is the President??

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Just so we are clear dale, you are saying that Sarah Palin did not run for the Republican nomination for Lt. Governor in 2002 and lose? Though it is left off of her official site you can find any number of references to it.

"Palin finished a strong second in the 2002 primary for lieutenant governor. In 2006, she knocked off GOP Gov. Frank Murkowski and then Democratic former Gov. Tony Knowles in a campaign that drew on grassroots support."
http://www.star-telegram.com/national_news/story/872268.html

"Ran for Republican nomination for lieutenant governor, 2002"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/29/politics/main4397232.shtml


"In 2002, Palin ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a five-way Republican primary.[54] The Republican ticket of U.S. Senator Frank Murkowski and Leman won the November 2002 election. When Murkowski resigned from his long-held U.S. Senate seat in December 2002 to become governor, he considered appointing Palin to replace him in the Senate, but instead chose his daughter, Lisa Murkowski, who was then an Alaska state representative.[55]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Hal Bass:

O.K. Now, can you answer my questions to you:

1) After she does Brian Williams (NBC), and the October 2nd debate, will that be enough for you?

2) How long did it take for Obama to sit down with Bill O'Reilly?

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The equity markets have lost over a trillion dollars in value over the last three days.

Two major mortgage lenders, Countrywide and Indymac are gone.

The two largest mortgage intermediaries, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been taken over by the government.

Three of the five giant investment banks on Wall Street no longer exist as independent entities.

The largest insurer in the world got an $85 billion loan from the Fed today. It had been unable secure it in the private sector.

Hundreds of billions of dollars of home value has evaporated.

We have an enormous federal budget deficit and external debt which can only be financed by foreign lenders.

We are witnessing the impoverisment of America.

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 6:23 PM

The Republicans decided to sell this country off to foreigners rather than tax the wealthy.

Well, the debt has come due.

The owners of this country are taking over.

And it ain't us.

Posted by: mnjam | September 17, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

From Anchorage Daily News (What say you fellow Republicans?), Fagan SUPPORTS the governor.

No one is above the truth, even Palin

DAN FAGAN
COMMENT

(09/16/08 22:52:37)

You really can't experience the full effect of Monday's news conference featuring Palin spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton unless you hear it for yourself. Stapleton passionately attacked former Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan. Her rhetoric was plain, desperate, and obvious. Her tone, pure shrill.

With intensity, urgency, and alarm in her voice, Stapleton described Monegan's behavior as commissioner as egregious insubordination, full of obstructionist conduct and a brazen refusal to follow instructions.

Did Walt Monegan, former Marine, and lifetime crime fighter deserve this? Of course not.

But history has proven, get in the way of Sarah Barracuda's political ambition, and you won't know what hit you.

If anyone should be on the hot seat, it's not Monegan, but Palin for her inconsistencies.

The governor has given so many different reasons for firing Monegan I've lost count. From the "we need new direction" and "new energy" to "he wasn't hiring enough cops," to "he wasn't doing enough about alcohol in the bush" to "he lobbied for budget increases" to the latest version, which is a doozy; Monegan displayed "egregious rogue behavior."

The governor also originally said that neither she, Todd nor anyone from her administration pressured Monegan regarding Trooper Wooten. Palin then was forced to admit there was serial contact once the Frank Bailey tape surfaced. But she insisted she was just learning of it. But e-mails have surfaced detailing Palin complaining to Monegan about Wooten.

The governor also originally said an investigation was needed and promised to cooperate. Then she instructed her employees not to talk to the investigator and has herself refused to be interviewed.

Palin can't constantly change her story and expect us to believe her each time she does.

Meanwhile, this Palin VP thing has Alaskans all stirred up? Much like Palin divided the Republican party, she has managed to divide the state over her national candidacy.

Clearly most Alaskans choose to ignore the facts of the Troopergate scandal. They want Palin to make it to the national stage.

Republicans scold me all the time, "You don't want Obama to win do you? Stop criticizing Palin!"

My question to my conservative friends is simple. Does the truth still matter?

Truth is at the very heart of the conservative movement. Isn't it true that smaller government, self empowerment, and personal responsibility are worth fighting for? Isn't it true that promoting a culture of life and defending marriage will keep us strong as a nation?

But some Republican leaders are abandoning truth and closing ranks to help Palin cover up her scandal by attacking the investigation.

Representative John Coghill has been especially disappointing on this.

And so has Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell. He called the investigation a "complete farce."? Parnell said, "I'm disappointed by the complete hijacking of what should be a fair and objective process,"

Parnell knows eight Republicans along with four Democrats voted to launch this independent investigation.

Contrast Sean "Captain Zero" Parnell with Republican Senator Charlie Huggins. Palin would have gotten away with shutting down the investigation if it were not for Huggins.

His swing vote allowed for subpoenas. Huggins put the quest for truth above his party. He said, "Let's just get the facts on the table, the sooner the better,"

But too many in my party are not interested in the facts. They want Palin to win -- at all cost.

I want McCain and Palin to win too. But with Palin's refusal to cooperate with the independent investigator and her transparent delay tactics, Americans deserve to know what Palin is trying to hide before we vote her a heartbeat away from the leader of the free world.

My fellow conservatives, remember how frustrating it was when Bill Clinton committed perjury and liberals looked the other way.

As conservatives, we are no better unless we demand full disclosure from our governor when it comes to Troopergate.

No politician is so popular and charismatic that they should be above accountability and telling the truth. Not even Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 6:23 PM

to blame the republicans for the failed policies put in place by Clinton and reinforced by the democratic party is as foolish as voting for someone because they are a different race and appear younger and lighter.

check out where the money went from freddy fanny lehman and others, thier top "donations" went to obama.

explain to me why obama is the #1 on the lehman brothers list, after just 2 years in the senate, and mccain is #7 after 30+ years.

if you blame this economy on republicans, you deserve the results of electing another democrat and you might as well just throw your money away now.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I am an angry, homosexual, and yes, a black man, who is sick and tired of the witches like Palin telling us lies! She is a deceptive witch!

Posted by: Hal Bass | September 17, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout a mud wrassling contest between Ahmadinejad and Palin. That's about their speed. Or they can shoot meese. Or is it moosi?

Posted by: mnjam | September 17, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:11 PM

those are disproved claims, each and every link you gave, and troppergate has been going on for 2 years with no new evidence. its moronic to assume theres anything there.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The sycophants and morally/economically/militarily bankrupt right will do absolutely anything for a political point. Do you idiots believe that the American people can not see through you useless pieces of garbage. Every one of you cons is a lier, lies are all you have. So just keep lying. You may be idiots but not every American is.

Posted by: average joe | September 17, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The equity markets have lost over a trillion dollars in value over the last three days.

Two major mortgage lenders, Countrywide and Indymac are gone.

The two largest mortgage intermediaries, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been taken over by the government.

Three of the five giant investment banks on Wall Street no longer exist as independent entities.

The largest insurer in the world got an $85 billion loan from the Fed today. It had been unable secure it in the private sector.

Hundreds of billions of dollars of home value has evaporated.

We have an enormous federal budget deficit and external debt which can only be financed by foreign lenders.

We are witnessing the impoverisment of America.

The Republican Party, which enabled all of this with their deregulation pipe-dreams now suddenly are for re-regulation.

The media was talking about lipstick and celebrity until last weekend.

Half of America thinks the world was created 7,000 years ago and are waiting for the rapture.

Where is our President?

....and this Party wants 4 more years??

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have a "little kid" like McCain or Palin as President.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, you call Palin's answers to Charlie Gibson intelligent and informed? Dream on, and read on:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/sarahs-grand-plan-for-this-world/

Posted by: Hal Bass | September 17, 2008 5:57 PM

this is by far the most uninformed link ive ever seen used as "proof".

firstly the term bush doctrine was coined by a reporter, who immediately wrote an article on how wrong gibson was in his "definition of it". that being said there are over 3 different bush doctrines, depending which you are refering to.

and as for the russia comment, every single candidate this year has an identical policy on georgia, and she was simply illustrating that we will have to go to war with russia in the event that policy faces its worst scenario.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

4-5 different colleges in 6 years!!!!!! One college, kicks her out for failure to perform! He$$ this sounds just like another dumb arse George W. Bush!

And you people have a nerve to be p$ssed off because Obama is a Harvard Grad and a member of the Harvard Law Review Board, Professor, etc!

I'd much rather have an intelligent, articulate black President with some darn common sense, then an uneducated redneck that can barely get a four year college degree from a community college just because she wears lipstick! We already had one of those Pres for the past 8 years and I can't wait to get that lipstick dumb arse pig out of the whitehouse!! Spare the US and the world, please vote for Obama/Biden! I am afraid the country may not be able to take much more of this uneducated leadership style governing us!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Just maybe she will be able to speak with more BLACK people escpecially from the African countries. She certainly does'nt have any experience in ALASKA...

Posted by: anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a Plan for America: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

McCain has Palin and Lies for America: http://www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/Count_the_Lies

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is still in hiding!

Grow a spine and get some education, Palin!

Get some morals and education, McCain!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

dale you need to take off those moose colored glasses dude. Palin has been successful, yes, but she has had her share of less that successes too.

"In 2002, Palin ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a five-way Republican primary.[54] The Republican ticket of U.S. Senator Frank Murkowski and Leman won the November 2002 election. When Murkowski resigned from his long-held U.S. Senate seat in December 2002 to become governor, he considered appointing Palin to replace him in the Senate, but instead chose his daughter, Lisa Murkowski, who was then an Alaska state representative.[55]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Also have a look at this, do your own research on the articles.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_palin_doc.html

Don't forget Troopergate is still unresolved, that could go either way for her.

To your other point..."you have to understand, that if a parent prevents their child from running into the road, she saves him from dying, but can she prove that? of course not, the reality is she hasn't had an issue with Russia, being in close proximity that should account for her to a certain degree."

If I understand this correctly then you say that Palin's mere presence in Alaska has been a deterrent against any sort of problems with Russia?

You mother/chid analogy might hold up if you could demonstrate where Palin has taken any sort of preventive action.

"obama has done nothing whatsoever of note, yet the majority of her actions end with her as the victor. whether its a non-event or a major political discourse.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:38 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

palin/mccain are like little kids.

Posted by: mm | September 17, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Hal Bass:

Yes, I do. Now, can you answer my questions to you:

1) After she does Brian Williams (NBC), and the October 2nd debate, will that be enough for you?

2) How long did it take for Obama to sit down with Bill O'Reilly?

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Why in his less than 3 years in the Senate has Barack Obama accepted the second largest campaign donation from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack of all Federal officials over the past decade?

Posted by: Scott | September 17, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Why in his less than 3 years in the Senate has Barack Obama accepted the second largest campaign donation from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack of all Federal officials over the past decade?

Posted by: Scott | September 17, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Call me crazy, but it looks like Senator Clinton wanted to avoid some silly sideshow talk about "Clinton and Palin square off!" or some such other nonsense. Given that Senator Obama's (the Democratic) campaign seems to lose steam when people get all wrapped up on the "personality" campaign rather than the issues campaign, it would seem that Senator Clinton is doing good work in her efforts to help Senator Obama's campaign.

Interesting stuff. And as a person who finds the silly stuff about the "celebrity" of Governor Palin and Senator Obama to be foolish I'm glad to be spared such idiocy.

Posted by: scott032 | September 17, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, you call Palin's answers to Charlie Gibson intelligent and informed? Dream on, and read on:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/sarahs-grand-plan-for-this-world/

Posted by: Hal Bass | September 17, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

sad but true

Posted by: yonah loriner | September 17, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

The heck with Hills...Palin doesn't need her anyway! Hillary has way too much baggage and Pallin is fresh and new to the scene....Hillary will damage Palin's image! I am glad that she cancelled....now Pallin can get back into the spotlight....she has already stolen Hill's thunder!

Palin the 1st woman Veep....soon to be the 1st woman Prez...as soon as they declare McCain senile...which will happen shortly after he's elected!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Comrade Annie tries to stir the PUMA people against Palin.

Nice try.

Posted by: info | September 17, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Hal Bass:

She sat down with Charlie Gibson (ABC) and has announced she will do the same with Katie Couric (NBC). After she does Brian Williams (NBC), and the October 2nd debate, will that be enough for you? How long did it take for Obama to sit down with Bill O'Reilly?

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Why does Palin refuse to hold a no-holds-barred press conference and appear on the Sunday talk shows? Because the witch from Wasilla is not just an ignoramus, but has plenty to hide vis-a-vis the "bridge to nowhere," the "troopergate" scandal and all those embarrassing e-mails, and book censorship at the public library.

Posted by: Hal Bass | September 17, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Only if she has done more than just stand there and look. If she could point to some sort of issue she has resolved, or contact she has had with the local Russians I might buy it.

Otherwise looking at the picture at that site gives you MORE experience than someone who has not, not very useful.

"she never claimed it gave her great foreign relations, but compare that to the relationship that colorado has with russia, or obama's own illinois. her point was simply that she has MORE than some, because of proximity.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:25 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:31 PM

and obama has more of a record?

you have to understand, that if a parent prevents their child from running into the road, she saves him from dying, but can she prove that? of course not, the reality is she hasn't had an issue with Russia, being in close proximity that should account for her to a certain degree.

obama has done nothing whatsoever of note, yet the majority of her actions end with her as the victor. whether its a non-event or a major political discourse.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

How do you heal the economy?:

Repulican talking Points:Barack Obama WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES

FEAR MONGERING ... NO SOLUTIONS ... CLUELESS

I like hunting ... I can shoot a moose ... I see Russia from Alaska ... I am the baracuda.

Are the McCains hurting with the rest of us rural voters ... I think not.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

GOP, FBI, and Secret Service respond to Palin email hacking.

""This is a shocking invasion of the Governor's privacy and a violation of law," said Rick Davis, campaign manager for the McCain-Palin campaign, in a statement. "The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these e-mails will destroy them. We will have no further comment."

An FBI spokesman said, "The FBI is aware of the alleged hacking incident involving Governor Sarah Palin, and is coordinating with the U.S. Secret Service on the matter."

"Palin has come under fire for using private e-mail accounts to conduct state business. Critics allege that she uses the account to get around public records laws, as the Bush administration has also been charged with doing.""

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/group-posts-e-m.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

This is what the republicans do best and worse SPIN SPIN SPIN.

These people are incredibly DESPARATE

They will do anything for the Jewish Vote and even be hawkish about it.

Sad!! On a day when the economy is bleeding profusely and in need of life support. The American people are hurting and the republicans take every opportunity to SPIN. They should be ashamed ... THEY WILL PAY AT THE POLLS

Posted by: NYC | September 17, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Only if she has done more than just stand there and look. If she could point to some sort of issue she has resolved, or contact she has had with the local Russians I might buy it.

Otherwise looking at the picture at that site gives you MORE experience than someone who has not, not very useful.

"she never claimed it gave her great foreign relations, but compare that to the relationship that colorado has with russia, or obama's own illinois. her point was simply that she has MORE than some, because of proximity.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:25 PM"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I do not believe any elected official should attend the protest. Not only does it elevate Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's status, as the UN host country it is in extremely poor taste to protest any world leader even a sick holocaust denier like Ahmadinejad who our government has granted a visa to attend the opening of the UN. Protesting Columbia's invitation to speak last fall would be appropriate, but not his attendance at the opening of the UN.

I'm glad Hillary isn't going, I don't think she should have gone before Palin was invited.

Posted by: IowaHawks | September 17, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

" GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

This one had me laughing out loud. Ready for a lesson in Alaska geography/International Affairs? Off the coast of Nome, 532 miles northwest of Anchorage (the closest city) is an island called Little Diomede. Little Diomede is 2.4 miles east of the island called Big Diomede, which is in Russia.

Little Diomede, Alaska has a population of 146. It is 2.5 square miles in area. There are 42 children in the school. Nobody drives to work. Big Diomede is a whopping 26 square miles. On a clear day you can see the Island of Big Diomede from the western shore of Little Diomede. Therefore Sarah Palin is capable of negotiating with Putin and Sakashvili to peacefully settle the violent conflict that has been burgeoning in the separatist enclave of South Ossetia.
Why Everyone in Alaska Has Foreign Policy Experience. Big Diomede, Russia (left), and Little Diomede, Alaska (right)."

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/sarahs-grand-plan-for-this-world/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:16 PM

heres my question tho, how does obama's whirlwind tour of the nation validly place any claim on his knowledge, how many "diomede's" did he go to yet claim to have been to the country?

the simple reality that canada and russia is in close proximity means that it COULD be used as a base of operations for moving slowly into america, and thats a constant thing one has to focus on. should the russian fleet be building up at big diomede would that not factor into major relations?

she never claimed it gave her great foreign relations, but compare that to the relationship that colorado has with russia, or obama's own illinois. her point was simply that she has MORE than some, because of proximity.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Let me guess, Palin is a foreign policy expert on Iran....because she can see Iran from her front porch in Alaska.


HAHAHA!!!

Posted by: Kimi Welsh | September 17, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

If they both attended, the McCain camp would enjoy two or three days of headlines about a possible girl-fight, instead of how he's changed every position he's ever had, how he lies and manufactures phony issues and employs the weapon of mass distraction to draw the spotlight away from his and his Parties miserable failure at governing. Good call Hilary. Let Palin go alone, then no one will go to a McCain rally.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 17, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Caribou Barbie (Palin) should be calling out anyone until she can actually get up the backbone to talk to the media off script and not at some pre-planned crap sitdown like she had with Charlie Gibson and the one she has planned with Katie Couric.


If she's to afraid to go off the Karl Rove playbook script and openly answer questions from the media like ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES, THEN SHE HAS ABSOLUTLEY NO BUSINESS WHATSOEVER BEING ON A PRESIDENTIAL TICKET....of course we all knew that anyway.


Two bit third world dictators are more open to the press than Cariboue Barbie is.

Posted by: AsperChick | September 17, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

"The e-mail, a message of support to Palin, tells her not to let negative press get to her and asks Palin to pray for McCorkell, who writes that "I need strength to 1. keep employment, 2. not have to choose."

The Republican Party hasn't responded to a call for comment, but McCorkell, reached at her office, confirmed that she did send the e-mail to Palin.

A fourth screenshot shows an e-mail sent to Ivy Frye, a Palin aide, from someone claiming to belong to the group Anonymous advising that the person has changed the password to Palin's Yahoo account to prevent other members of Anonymous from accessing it again. The e-mail includes the new password."

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/group-posts-e-m.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Actually here McCain is still leading, by 0.6, it was by 2.4 this past weekend.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:16 PM

realclearpolitics problem is that it takes results from previous polls to guage and average out the election. at this moment obama leads overall, in popular vote, however his + numbers have gone up in states like california that are already historically democrat.

while mccain makes a valid effort to usurp swing states and obama does the same, i think obama misses the factor that he has a -4% handicap to overcome this election, when you factor in his base's voter turnout history obama is 30% less than mccains base turnout. when you mix that with the bradley factor, obama has a factor of 4% per state, if mccain simply makes each swing state the closer this election, he will undoubtedly win.

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

And here is Sarah Palin standing in front of the NY Stock Exchange..

She now has experience in the global financial markets.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The McCain needs to stop fabricating fake controversies and decide how to effectively deal with the economy and Obama's all-out assault.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 17, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

" GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

This one had me laughing out loud. Ready for a lesson in Alaska geography/International Affairs? Off the coast of Nome, 532 miles northwest of Anchorage (the closest city) is an island called Little Diomede. Little Diomede is 2.4 miles east of the island called Big Diomede, which is in Russia.

Little Diomede, Alaska has a population of 146. It is 2.5 square miles in area. There are 42 children in the school. Nobody drives to work. Big Diomede is a whopping 26 square miles. On a clear day you can see the Island of Big Diomede from the western shore of Little Diomede. Therefore Sarah Palin is capable of negotiating with Putin and Sakashvili to peacefully settle the violent conflict that has been burgeoning in the separatist enclave of South Ossetia.
Why Everyone in Alaska Has Foreign Policy Experience. Big Diomede, Russia (left), and Little Diomede, Alaska (right)."

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/sarahs-grand-plan-for-this-world/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Actually here McCain is still leading, by 0.6, it was by 2.4 this past weekend.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, she'll get to visit 20 countries in 24 hours! That's why they call her the superhero hockey mom! She will be the best superhero on the Nickolonian cable station. I have to let my children know to tune in for the next Tuesday to see the superhero hockey mom, uhmmm...I mean the next vice president! LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I want to see the poll that shows McCain and Republicans leading?

McCain and Palin, Dumb and Dumber, are clearly out of touch. In the midst of this economic meltdown, they are pursuing last week’s pity political gimmicks. No one cares about manufactured “outrage” and lipstick shenanigans. Enough is enough.

Let’s take our country back.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

this is a short excerpt from a history on Adolph Hitler...

"Using demagogic oratory, Hitler spoke to scores of mass audiences, calling for the German people to resist the yoke of Jews and Communists, and to create a new empire which would rule the world for 1,000 years.
"

Hitler as many know was a seemingly upstanding citizen by the time he ran and won in Germany. However, he had a historical tradition of overpowering people who did not support him through intimidation tactics. During his first real campaign he did a great deal to enforce positive propaganda in his favor.


He then took Germany and the world on a ride that will not be forgotten.


Why am i telling you this? Because it was preventable to those who stood up and saw the initial signs. Beware of great speakers, as speech is more about appearance than anything else.


Because Barack Obama is assaulting our free speech. From the Pennsylvania gazette to Michelle Malkin to Stanley Kurtz, anyone who voices negative comments about Barack Obama's history or questions it at all is being attacked.


In a recent article on Michelle Malkin's website Obama sought out a help from the Department of Justice, asking the GOVERNMENT to pick his battles for him. They obviously refused as no one has convincingly been able to prove true or false on either side. However, it is necessary to understand that Obama is not even in power yet, and is already seeking the oppression of conservative talk radio, and private funded organizations with the aid of government agencies.


No matter how much you may dislike republicans, this cannot be allowed.


Don't put Hitler in power again, not when we can clearly see his intentions.


"Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it.
"

Posted by: dale | September 17, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I want to see the poll that shows McCain and Republicans leading?

McCain and Palin, Dumb and Dumber, are clearly out of touch. In the midst of this economic meltdown, they are pursuing last week’s pity political gimmicks. No one cares about manufactured “outrage” and lipstick shenanigans. Enough is enough.

Let’s take our country back.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Wow, she'll get to visit 20 countries in 24 hours! That's why they call her the superhero hockey mom! She will be the best superhero on the Nickolonian cable station. I have to let my children know to tune in for the next Tuesday to see the superhero hockey mom, uhmmm...I mean the next vice president! LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

The McCain needs to stop fabricating fake controversies and decide how to effectively deal with the economy and Obama's all-out assault.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

" GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

This one had me laughing out loud. Ready for a lesson in Alaska geography/International Affairs? Off the coast of Nome, 532 miles northwest of Anchorage (the closest city) is an island called Little Diomede. Little Diomede is 2.4 miles east of the island called Big Diomede, which is in Russia.

Little Diomede, Alaska has a population of 146. It is 2.5 square miles in area. There are 42 children in the school. Nobody drives to work. Big Diomede is a whopping 26 square miles. On a clear day you can see the Island of Big Diomede from the western shore of Little Diomede. Therefore Sarah Palin is capable of negotiating with Putin and Sakashvili to peacefully settle the violent conflict that has been burgeoning in the separatist enclave of South Ossetia.
Why Everyone in Alaska Has Foreign Policy Experience. Big Diomede, Russia (left), and Little Diomede, Alaska (right)."

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/sarahs-grand-plan-for-this-world/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

And here is Sarah Palin standing in front of the NY Stock Exchange..

She now has experience in the global financial markets.

Posted by: :-) | September 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Does Sarah Palin really know anything about Iran's NEW-CLEAR ambitions?

Posted by: :-) | September 17, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will be an expert on foreign policy now! And what are her qualifications?

She could see the UN from her hotel room.

Posted by: :-) | September 17, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Whah...wah...wah.....now we can't make bigger fools out of the women in the US and the women who supported Clinton by appearing together!!! Wha...Whahh.....now I have to stand my lying arse in front of folks and try to act like I know with the freak I am talking about....whah...wha.....blame it on those Obama people....I wont' be able to get enough coaching by next week to look like I know what I am talking about!

I am Sarah Palin and I approve this message!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

billy:

Gov. Palin, of course, never said "I have foreign policy experience because I saw Russia using binoculars". Next canard?

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"VP contender Sarah Palin hacked

The internet activist group 'anonymous', famed for its exposure of unethical behavior by the Scientology cult, has now gone after the Alaskan govenor and republican Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

At around midnight last night some members affiliated with the group gained access to governor Palin's email account "gov.palin@yahoo.com" and handed over the contents to the government sunshine site Wikileaks.org."


http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hacked

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

You know the saying: give her enough rope

Posted by: C A Wren | September 17, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Diane Clinton (and Barack Hussein Obama) are SCARED of little ol' Sarah Louise Palin?! The Muslim world is OUTRAGED!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

How is it an obnoxious child like Mr Goldfarb could come to occupy a position where he speaks on behalf of the McCain campaign? Has "annoying liberals" really become the central plank of the GOP? Are there no responsible adults left in the Republican Party?

Posted by: zukermand | September 17, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

this will be her dukkakis moment. if you think this will make her appear more fit to take over for mcold, think again. go back to the "i have foreign policy experience because i saw russia using binoculars" mantra.

Posted by: billy | September 17, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh Boy, Watch Out! Palin's going to visit 20 countries in 1 day. I guess now she will have foreign policy experience.

GIVE ME A FREAKIN' BREAK!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 17, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Darn, we could have had them both at the podium, shades of SNL, lol.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will be taking a tour of the UN. Wow, there sure are a lot of countries in the world. Got to get ready for that debate! Where is Team Obama. McCain's meter at http://www.boppoll.com should really be jumping. 10 people can add 600 bops per minute!

Posted by: SNL Redux! | September 17, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

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