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Palin Emphasizes Reform While Quiet on Obama


Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and former Mass. governor Mitt Romney campaign in O'Fallon, Mo., September 1, 2008. (John Gress/Reuters)

BY Robert Barnes
PHILADELPHIA -- After three days of campaigning together, there are two words still not spoken by the newly minted Republican ticket of Sen. John McCain and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Barack Obama.

Heading into the most partisan event on the political calendar -- a party's national convention -- McCain and his surprise running mate have steered clear of partisan rhetoric and even of comparisons between Obama and McCain. Instead, each has stressed reform, tried to present themselves as outsider mavericks and even made a grab for the message so far more associated with Obama than the team that would continue Republican control of the White House.

"I promise you, if you're sick and tired of the way Washington operates, you only need to be patient for a couple of more months," McCain shouted to a pumped crowd in Missouri Sunday night. "Change is coming! Change is coming! Change is coming! Change is coming!"

Since the Democratic National Convention ended and Palin joined the GOP ticket, "reform" is heard far more often than "Republican." "Experience" has been replaced by "ethics," and the best man for transforming Washington is not the Democratic senator in the midst of his first term but the "outsider" Republican who has served in the Capitol for 26 years.

"No leader in America today," Palin said at each of the two rallies she held with McCain this weekend, "presents so clear a threat to business as usual in Washington as Senator John S. McCain."

Part of the message is a rebuttal to the recently completed Democratic National Convention, where speaker after speaker excoriated McCain as a steward of President Bush and equated his potential election with an endorsement of the last eight years.

Obama himself made the case forcefully in his acceptance speech. "The record's clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time," Obama said, adding, "I don't know about you, but I am not ready to take a 10 percent chance on change."

The new GOP tone might also be an unacknowledged recognition that the "experience" argument took a dramatic hit when McCain chose the 44-year-old Palin, who is a favorite in conservative and Republican circles but little-known nationally. She became governor of one of the nation's least populated states less than two years ago, and her previous elected job was as mayor of a very small town.

But it is also a return to a strategy that seemed from the beginning to offer McCain his best hope of winning at a time when Bush's approval ratings are reaching all-time lows and the public has a growing appetite for change.

"It was a decision made months ago to make this election not about (replacing) a Republican administration or a Democratic Congress but about changing Washington," said McCain senior adviser Matt McDonald. "And that you really need mavericks to change Washington."

He acknowledged that "it's a message that people may now be hearing from a fresh perspective" since Palin's selection.

McCain has talked about little else in the rallies held to introduce Palin, speaking not of his own plans but promoting her as an outsider and "partner" who most complements his desire to "shake up Washington."

"My friends, she beat the odds and the political establishment when she ran for governor to take on corruption and the kind of politics that puts the interest of politicians and special interests above your interests," McCain said at the rally at a minor league ballpark in O'Fallon, Mo.

He credited her with "repairing the damage done to Alaska's reputation by a corrupt, self-dealing political culture that had become a national disgrace."

Palin has said she is humbled by McCain's decision, but is not shy about accepting the reformer mantle McCain has bestowed.

"I didn't get into government to take the safe and easy path," she said. "I like to say, 'A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built.' The people of America expect us to seek public office for the right reason. And the right reason is to challenge the status quo and to serve the common good."

But McCain's enthusiasm for Palin sometimes leads to embellishment. For instance, Palin's rise in Alaskan politics was fostered by the political culture that she turned against and eventually battled for control of state government.

And she and McCain both never fail to mention that as governor she opposed a federal earmark for a bridge to a sparsely population island that became a symbol of pork-barrel politics.

As a senator, "I tried to stop the 233-million 'Bridge to Nowhere' in Alaska,'' McCain said. "She got it done.''

Palin said she told the federal government, "Thanks, but no thanks.''

But she doesn't mention that she endorsed the bridge when she was a candidate for governor. And the money saved did not go back to Washington -- it stayed in Alaska for a different road project.

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The only President experience any President had was the experience they got after being President. Obama is smart intelligent, patriotic, willing and able to lead this nation as President. McCain is old, senile, and had only war and prisoner experience. He is not able to lead this country except lead it into wars against other countries because of fear of terrorists. Obama will win because he has the Lord behind him and has been ordained by God to be President of the United States of America. McCain just need to go home and rest for the last few years of his life.

Posted by: lclon | September 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama's twisted logic that merely running for office provides him with the qualifications, experience and credentials to perform in that office, is as laughable as his twisted logic that a whirlwind 9 day, six country, overseas photo op qualifies him as an expert on foreign policy. Obama is an empty suit who is obviously trying to create the illusion that he is something that he is not. If its a choice between an experienced mayor and Governor, with an approval rating of 80% for V.P. versus. a community organizer, and junior senator, who spent most of his time in office running for President ... I choose Palin. No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Ayers, no Rezko, no mean Michelle, NOBAMA

Posted by: Howard | September 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"Reform" is a tricky word. Literally it (as re-form) suggests a return to some previous, likely supposedly purer state of being. As such it is to be distinguished from change, or change as such, which is admittedly yet more open or vague in meaning.

Seems like either "reform" or "change" invites elaboration when employed.

Posted by: First Mouse | September 2, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"I promise you, if you're sick and tired of the way Washington operates, you only need to be patient for a couple of more months," McCain shouted to a pumped crowd in Missouri Sunday night. "Change is coming! Change is coming! Change is coming! Change is coming!"

In his acceptance speeh and beyond it, the old rogue needs to spell out precisely how McCain-Palin "change" will look, as process and as product. It wouldn't be enough to let a change of executive faces suggest the kind of change this country requires.

Posted by: Buck TX Ind | September 2, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/unsurprised.html

Tuesday, September 02, 2008
Unsurprised

"No Surprises From Palin, McCain Team Says"-Washington Post


Senior McCain officials described themselves as "unsurprised" today as huge storms of locusts flew from Wasilla, Alaska and descended upon McCain campaign headquarters. "Locusts were vetted. Locusts were vetted in the vet" said one campaign official, who spoke without attribution out of concern that he would be devoured by a verminous flying cloud. The campaign also said that they were nonplussed by reports that the rivers were running black with ashes, that family pets were begin to speak in human voices, declaiming "Release Sarah!", and that a huge spreading stain was beginning to blot out the Northern sun. "Vetted", said the campaign.

"There are exciting new studies that show that locusts can be used as a source of biodegradable fuel" said Newt Gingrich, as he hunkered down to avoid the black marble obelisks falling from the sky around him. "Palin, if she can be said to have played a role in bringing about these new biofuel resources, should be praised for her innovative role in the solution to our future energy demands".

"These events firmly demonstrate Palin's deep connection to traditional modes of traditional expression, in traditional forms, traditionally." said William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. "Experience, in the face of these more traditional events, is overrated..." continued Kristol, before ending the interview to wrap himself head-to-toe in mosquito netting and swallowing a bitter tasting anti-malarial drug, the taste of which, as his lips contorted, he noted to be "surprisingly refreshing."

Palin's schedule in the upcoming days of the Republican National Convention has been cut short due to, as one McCain communications aide reported, a desire not to "let the magic out of the bottle too quickly." "Sarah is a precious resource, who each moment brings a new vitality and energy to every worker on the campaign" said the aide, while fighting to remove the nest of serpents which had suddenly materialized on the floor beneath him, and were now slowly ascending his legs. "Do these bite, or just slink?" asked the aide, who spoke on conditions of anonymity so as not to provoke or otherwise alienate the reptiles.

Meanwhile, as the heavens darkened, the seas began to boil, and a deep voice tore through the clouds shouting, in stentorian tones to one and all: "It was a Mistake!", campaign offices described themselves as "unperturbed". "Serpents materializing, house pets suddenly called to vocal advocacy, Celestial callings to revise and repent...Vetted" said the spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity as he was turning into a pillar of salt. "Everything that was vetted was vetted in the vet."

Cite:
Head of State:
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/unsurprised.html

Posted by: Robert Hewson | September 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

A quick look at another section in the WP we find Palin may be the queen of the ear mark she claims to be against

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

EWW W MCCAIN LOOKS SO UGLY AND OLD

I'M LIKE GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA YAY

Posted by: p[p | September 2, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin was part of a radical group called the Alaskan independent party who main and clear mission is to push a legal vote for Alaskans to secede from the United States. Their motto has been and still is Alaska first ,Alaska always, my question is do you people know anything about Sarah Palin? Do you understand that many people who were very angry at the thought of Mccain heading this ticket is more angry now that Sarah Palin has betrayed them by joining this ticket? The fact she may allow people in the lower 48 to rape Alaska land is foremost on their minds and that's why so many here will not vote for that ticket.

Posted by: Kim | September 1, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Ronski, baby, try reading my 'critique' one more time and tell me how you established that I'm an Obama supporter. 99% of the posters here are Obama fanatics. Hence my lack of patience. Rock on baby.

Posted by: OMG are these people hopeless | September 1, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

boy am i tired of all the crap from both sides,,,, I'm a republican but I don't need to here attack ads from mcain supporters about who obama is friends with,, i dont need to hear from dems about palins daughter being pregnant,, who cares,, I have friends that have way different views on things than i do,,, i have five daughters, I'm a damn good father,, doesn't mean one or more of them won't get pregnant,, I respect both Obama and McCain both are fine men,, neither one is perfect,, but then nobody is,, can you imagine what people could find in your past,,, if everything you said was recorded, especially when you didn't know it,, how many times would you put your foot in your mouth,,, the only things that matter are the issues,,, the candidates are so far apart on most of them that choosing your president should be a no brainer,,, just remember,, dont pick the guy that is always going to tell you what you want to hear,,, but the guy that is willing to tell you want don't want to here when it is the truth

Posted by: fritzfromcincy | September 1, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

ha.....
maybe Ms Palin should have pushed her conservative agenda on her daughter before she tries to lecture ANYBODY.... about anything.... what a joke.

I wonder how old the father is??
over 18??
isn't that rape?

Posted by: natalie | September 1, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

OMG,
I'm sure we all feel so privileged and blessed, that you've come down from Mt. Obama to bless us with your arrogant little critique. Now go sip yo cool-aid, kid.

Posted by: ronski | September 1, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

WOW!!!! There isn't a single ounce of class or brains to be found on this board. Almost statistically impossible to gather this many dolts in one place but it's now been done. The world is now stupider because of this pit of dumb. Obama/Biden can certainly attract the lowest common denominator if nothing else. Another proud moment brought about by the DNC.

Posted by: OMG are these people hopeless | September 1, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

She'll be eating Biden Burgers and Obama Burgers instead of moose burgers on the way to the White House. Be afraid, be very Afraid.

McCain/Palin 08! Palin/? 2012!

p.s. Sara will be eating Clinton Burgers for lunch in 2012

Posted by: ronski | September 1, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

So, what does it say about John McBush's judgment that he selected a running mate who felt that she needed to hire a lawyer just four days before she was selected?

JUNEAU, Alaska -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, has hired a private practice attorney to defend her and members of her staff in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.

The state Legislature is investigating whether Palin fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan after he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister.

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8933043

Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 1, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Even Obama has this right about Palin. Leave it alone. This is an election about ideas! I haven't made up my mind yet, but I appreciate the effort of both camps to make this about a honest debate on Liberalism vs Conservatism, big government vs small government. That is definitely the battle going on at http://www.bop-o-rama.com.

Posted by: acarponzo | September 1, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Biden - more of the same Pelosi/Reid garbage we've seen the past few years.

No bump for the liberals - Are you wondering why yet? or just ignoring reality?

Posted by: Zoo2 | September 1, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

My favorite posts are ones by Republicans posing as Democrats that attempt to change the subject by making Pro-Obama arguments that also try to remove the incredible issues revealed today from the table.

They're fun!

Let's try one:

As a Democrat, I think Obama is likely to pull it off--even with Palin in--as McCain benefits from the distraction of these stories.

See, it's easy! That way, you're not supposed to think about the Palin stories.

But you're too smart to be fooled by that old Republican trick.

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Too bad Americans let the media think for themselves.

You believe everything the media spews at you.

You bypassed the only PROVABLY 100% honest citizen statesman whom would have made real changes benefiting the American people.


Democrats and Republicans are whats wrong with this country.


Perhaps Americans should return to their roots.

George Washington

Benjamin Franklin

Thomas Jefferson

John Adams

and the latest incarnation: Ron Paul


Dont blame me for the coming mess regardless of who gets elected. Im writing in Dr. Ron Paul.

Libertarians are committed to the belief that individuals, and not states or groups of any other kind, are both ontologically and normatively primary; that individuals have rights against certain kinds of forcible interference on the part of others; that liberty, understood as non-interference, is the only thing that can be legitimately demanded of others as a matter of legal or political right; that robust property rights and the economic liberty that follows from their consistent recognition are of central importance in respecting individual liberty; that social order is not at odds with but develops out of individual liberty; that the only proper use of coercion is defensive or to rectify an error; that governments are bound by essentially the same moral principles as individuals; and that most existing and historical governments have acted improperly insofar as they have utilized coercion for plunder, aggression, redistribution, and other purposes beyond the protection of individual liberty.

Posted by: Matt | September 1, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"I promise you, if you're sick and tired of the way Washington operates, you only need to be patient for a couple of more months," McCain shouted to a pumped crowd in Missouri Sunday night. "Change is coming! Change is coming! Change is coming! Change is coming!"


You're right John - Obama and Biden will change the way our government works. YOu and Ellie Mae Palin don't stand a chance. That's what you get for insulting women with a trophy pick.

Posted by: jilli | September 1, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

mrkwong--Foreign policy positions from Gov Palin? We are waiting . . . ! Accepting pork money, not admitting to it, flip floppin'--I don't see that as a libertarian position?

I agree: her daughter's pregnancy should not be on the radar screen and everybody needs to get over it, as noted in link below--

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26501011/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Petashe,
I guess you missed out on the whole godhatesfags.com thing. These are proclaimed Baptist. These people and many others just like them find all kinds of ways to hate and use the bible as their base. Baptist recently picket a FUNERAL because the lady was a supported of gays. Get real and wake up, I'm not saying because you are religious you are a bad person, I'm simply saying that the "my god is better then your god" attitude is what’s wrong with this world as a whole. This lady wants creationism to be taught in public schools, this I am whole heartedly against. Teaching my children the bibles dogmatic views is unacceptable.

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 1, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Yup. So much for levelheaded discussions about plans for change.


This ain't a high school football game or American Idol, folks. This is the future of our country.


"Experience" don't mean squat if you don't have some concrete plans about how to get us out of the messes we're in. Neither does "change" if all you're going to do us change the color of the curtains.


Detailed and specific discussions about the candidates' plans are what are needed, not playground taunts. And at this point, from what I've been hearing from both the candidates and their supporters makes me say:


None Of The Above '08 !!!

Posted by: philkoltko | September 1, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

My error, that should be Obama bin Biden, '08, not Osama bin Biden,'08

Posted by: BL@KBIRD | September 1, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I see vast quantities of the usual nonsense coming from the Obama camp.

I agree Obama is a very intelligent man, but that doesn't make him a leader. Committee memberships mean nothing if the guy sitting in the chair is unwilling to act. And Obama's entire history is one of avoiding putting his name on anything. One hundred thirty 'Present' votes in the Illinois Senate - he might as well have been in the Witness Protection Program. He's authored no significant legislation in the US Senate. And when he has taken a position - opposition to the troop surge, most notably - he's been wrong. Obama's policies would have had us bailing out of Iraq leaving a calamity behind. Don't get me wrong, I think he has potential, but I want to see him do something first.

Mrs Palin, by contrast, has been an active, energetic leader - not just a mouth. She has governed as a pragmatic, somewhat conservative libertarian, and that's a mix we sorely need in national office. Her daughter's pregnancy is her own damn business - she has a big family and will have plenty of support.

Posted by: mrkwong | September 1, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

A couple of comments. I don't think Palin will need to be tripped up by her critics, she is doing a nice job herself.

John McCain changed to change, just like Hillary did after the experience argument did not work. His need to put her on the ballot was to shore up his base. That part will work, I think it has already, despite the "bump" about her daughter.

What will not work is the argument that somehow McCain can lead change. He is not a leader, he is exactly what he says he is - a maverick. Look it up, it is the antithesis of leadership. It means someone who is just anti-follower-ship. Palin might have credibility as a leader of change. It will take a while to figure that out. The problem is, she is totally unknown. It seems to me there are likely more skeletons in her closet - who is the father for example? And these issues that are out there in terms of her sister's ex.

And, of course, she does have to get up to speed on a lot. That might not be possible in a way that allows her to be credible. I don't rule it out.

Finally, in the end, if both McCain and Obama are offering choice who will you believe? The answer to that will be in what they offer. And if you look at who they are an where they came from. The VP's will not materially figure in that equation unless Palin flames out completely and goes home.

To me, it is Obama in the end. By a 3 to 5% margin. And that is if Palin is a success as a candidate (standards will be set low). If Palin flames out, McCain could be routed.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is:

This is certainly change that the Republicans deserve.

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

sjtruth:
I don't know what your party affiliation is, but if you are a Dem, and believe in Dem party principles, you couldn't possibly consider McCain--but I state that not knowing your party affiliation.

The inability of some Hillary loyalists to not vote for Obama is a clear indication of her lack of leadership--it starts from the top. Very sad.

For female Hillary loyalists, I also think the old saying "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" is in play here, thus reinforcing typical female stereotypes. Very sad.

Posted by: Ang10 | September 1, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The pathetic and reprehensible response from the left is in proportion to the level of fear they express for this genuine accomplished woman. If truth be told she has more executive experience than the other three contenders combined. By all means find whatever you can against her, it's quite amusing to watch you wriggle and squirm in panic. Heh.

Osama bin Biden '08 ...indeed.

Posted by: BL@KBIRD | September 1, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Every now and then, a leader comes along with the ability to INSPIRE THE WORLD.

"Our position in the world has been weakened by ... a failure to consistently use the power of diplomacy, from the Middle East to Africa to Latin America to Central and Eastern Europe. Clearly, the job of the next President is to rebuild the American Dream and restore America’s standing in the world.” (President Clinton)

Obama is that leader.

"People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power."

I’ve included links for your convenience.

http://www.theworldwantsobama.org/ THE WORLD WANTS OBAMA

http://www.republicansforobama.org/ REPUBLICANS FOR OBAMA

Google UTube and The Bridges for Obama regarding Senator Obama's ability to bridge divides. There have been rallies now on almost 100 bridges in over 40 countries. Americans on 5 continents and 36 foreign countries have gathered to show their enthusiasm for Obama as the BRIDGE to a new future

Please go online to the various blogs and do your best to educate the misinformed and the fearful made so by the Bush Administration.

"... something better awaits us if we have the courage to reach for it... Obama

Posted by: 1more4REALchange | September 1, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

a christian can kill someone in the name of God all they want. scripture doesnt make it acceptable. a muslim can blow up a hotel all he wants, and these acts are proscribed in the Qur'an, sunnah, and hadith

Posted by: petashe | September 1, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Have to sign off for now but I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow morning..
NOLA survived Gustav....Could have been a lot worse but thank God it will be stronger than ever!
Sarah, can't wait to hear more about you tomorrow

Posted by: :-) | September 1, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

creamsykle, those acts were not proscribed by christian scripture. therein lies the difference.

the new testament, which is the basis of christianity proscribes tolerance, love, and caring for others. any violence in the old testament is descriptive and used in stories.

islam, however, has PRESCRIPTIVE violence. that is, encouraging followers to engage in such acts.

so, you can cite all acts of violence committed by christians all you want, but there is no comparison. why do you think the crusades arent around anymore? because those were old ideas unrelated to christian texts. and note that the crusades were defensive in nature against islamic aggression.

there arent any world wide christian terror groups. there are no christian leaders calling for the murder of homosexuals in the "most brutal way possible" as al-sistani has put it. but there are so many countless islamic groups that span through the world, in certain regions and continents, and some localized in certain countries. while christianity sends its missionaries, islam sends its shahid bombers.

Posted by: petashe | September 1, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thought that the Democratic party would be getting such a generous gift from the McCain campaigne...Its the gift that keeps on giving.....You all know what I mean ;)

I'm lovin it...

Posted by: :-)> | September 1, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain is right. Change is coming. Just not the change he wants.

Posted by: Kees | September 1, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Whiterock:
I daresay, most military folks don't leave their brothers and sisters behind . . . that's a given. But being a POW does not instill one with the ability/capability to be President. Nor does being a Gov. with "executive" experience (otherwise, only Govs would ever be considered).

I have concerns about Palin's own corruption, given "TrooperGate." While reports indicate real problems with the ex-bro-in-law, you don't abuse your own powerful position for your own means.

FYI-Obama's committee experience:

Committees:
Foreign Relations, Member
Health, Education, Labor & Pensions, Member
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Member
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Member
Subcommittee on African Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on Children and Families, Member
Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety, Member
Subcommittee on European Affairs, Chair
Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security , Member
Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection, Member
Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration, Member
Veterans' Affairs, Member

Posted by: Ang10 | September 1, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

ABC News has just revealed that Palin was a member of an organization which sought for Alaska to secede from the United States.

Apparently, she was against the 50-state flag before she was for it.

Posted by: Marie Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Palins plump little c*unt-trollop of a daugther (McCains words,not mine!) couldnt keep her legs together. Will McCain make another tasteless joke about how ugly the child is, like he did with Chelsea Clinton?

Posted by: mooseburger | September 1, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm lovin it!!!!!!!!

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: :-) | September 1, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant and brave choice of Governor Palin as VP. You know it was. Just look at all the Obamabots on this site in full attack mode.

We will remember in November. We will just say no deal. NO OBAMA!

PUMA!

Posted by: sjtruth | September 1, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

there is a massive difference between islam and christianity. while muslims riot, kill, pillage, and burn all over the world over cartoons, christians merely ask "artists" to stop dipping christ in urine, and putting frogs with beers and eggs in their hands on crucifixes.

while the muslims try to establish shari'a law, there is no equivalent in christian theology.

you are so ignorant it is disgusting.

Posted by: petahes | September 1, 2008 9:09 PM
========================================
Some of the greatest wars and mass murders in the history of the world were based in Christian believes. Of course you over look that and follow along like a good little sheep. There is NO difference between the two religions. They are both based on the exact same rhetoric dogma believe system

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 1, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

The media attention on Palin is indicative of the threat she poses during this election. A bright, confident, self sufficient, female governor on the GOP ticket is seen as an enormous concern and they are pulling out the stops to smear her. The good news? With a previous drug user and plagaerist on the Dem's ticket, there is plenty of sleeze to go around. As the media tries to beat up on you, Sarah, wear it as a badge of honor. Their scared as hell.

Posted by: Ryleigh111 | September 1, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

C.C. Are you a betting person. :-)

Posted by: whiterock | September 1, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris, Newflash....Bush not running this year. What are you going to do now? Anyone who has followed McCain knows he is much different then Bush.

Posted by: Smoothy | September 1, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I guarantee that she will NOT be on the ticket in about 2 weeks. All of this controversy will force McCain to drop her. I'd bet everything I own on it.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | September 1, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain = same
McCain = same
McCain = same

No matter what he says, we know his record of late. We want a new administration. A new era of politics.

Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008
Obama-Biden 2008

Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Experience Florida Worker: H.R.C. had been preparing for the job since college. She lost. You will too. Should have not hung with people trying to blow the government you now want to lead. Should not diss the Jewish, the Women, and the Clingers.

Posted by: Properly inflated Clinger | September 1, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

sfernando: I agree these comments are unfair and sexist--I think its great Mr. Palin has a big role in taking care of the Palin clan.

However, I can't find anything related to Gov. Palin's foreign policy views. I keep hearing from her she takes stands, tells Congress "thanks but no thanks" (when she actually took the earmarks).

Obama's broad based CONGRESSIONAL experience is noted below. I am sorry, but firing local police officers, "taking on" oil companies (because they are moving too slow with progress), governing a state of less than 700,000 for 18 months just does not cut it, regardless of gender--


Just including committee membership, not bill sponsorship.

Committees:
Foreign Relations, Member
Health, Education, Labor & Pensions, Member
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Member
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Member
Subcommittee on African Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on Children and Families, Member
Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs, Member
Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety, Member
Subcommittee on European Affairs, Chair
Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security , Member
Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection, Member
Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration, Member
Veterans' Affairs, MemberCommittees:
Foreign Relations, Member
Health, Education, Labor & Pensions, Member
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Member
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Member
Subcommittee on African Affairs, Member
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Posted by: Ang10 | September 1, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse


I use to think that the phony party of phony values was a party of tough spirited people who could take a punch in the chin and still stand up and fight. I guess I was wrong and the proof is when the palin's daughter pregnancy story came out. These republican cry-babies are screaming like little babies. The "evil left-winger democrats" are attacking her "holiness'" daughter. I thought since they pride themselves in personal attacks on democratic candidates they will simply taste their own medicine like big boys and big girls they always claim to be, but instead they screaming and crying foul. Shame on you cry-babies.

Do you republican forget a tasteless comment your candidate John Mcsame made about Chelsey Clinton back in 2000 saying that she's ugly because Janet Rino is her father? Have caught dimentia and amnesia (like your candidate)so quickly that you've forgotten how lowly and crass that comment was? And now dems are making comment about the recklessness of Palin's daughter and you are up in arms and crying like little babies. Where was your outrage back then you hypocrites?

I bet you've realized that you do not have a monopoly on personal attacks, huh? Bring it on any time, 'cause we dems have learned and perfected your smear tactics for our own defense. See you in 2012 'cause your guy is not winning this 2008 race.

POLITICS AIN'T FOR CRY-BABIES

Posted by: One proud dem | September 1, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

creamsykle you are quite ignorant.

there is a massive difference between islam and christianity. while muslims riot, kill, pillage, and burn all over the world over cartoons, christians merely ask "artists" to stop dipping christ in urine, and putting frogs with beers and eggs in their hands on crucifixes.

while the muslims try to establish shari'a law, there is no equivalent in christian theology.

you are so ignorant it is disgusting.

Posted by: petahes | September 1, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

This deserves a second post!

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THE EXPERIENCE MYTH OF OBAMA

I have worked with the Obama campaign on a local level since December and have met and spoken with Obama numerous times. Anyone who thinks Obama is not prepared for the office of president does not know Barack Obama. I don't think the campaign has spoken about it, although there have been articles written, maybe because it may have seemed kind of presumptive doing all this so many months before he even had the nomination, but that is not how Obama works.
Little is left to chance. So here is what the deal is:

Does Obama have the experience to be president, is he ready? It would be hard to say anyone is ready to be president, but what prepares one for the job?

Obama has been getting ready when his nomination was still no more then a dream. Obama has an advisory staff of over a 300. Most all are the top people in their fields. 4 of his staff are the top people on middle east politics in the world. He has numerous people on pretty much everything you could think of from global warming to world economics to energy and foreign policy to the military. Generals to scholars you name it, he has been working with these people for more then a year. Obama is a brilliant man, who easily knows more right now then any candidate who ever ran for the office of president. He is so up to speed it is astounding. John Mccain does not know or grasp a fraction of what Obama does. Mccain is in effect, a dinosaur, compared to Obama now. Mccain has no real practical experience or understanding in many of these areas at all. Just being in Washington for many years does not necessarily make you an expert nor knowledgeable in "Anything".
Bill Clinton said it best when he said,
"No one is really prepared to be president".
He was right and Obama understood that better then anyone long before he even began his journey for the presidency. So for over a year he has been quietly preparing. Like anything such as being a doctor or lawyer or any profession, your first introduction is academic, you go to school. Obama will by no means be learning on the job, he has been in school for more then a year. When enters office, Obama will be the most well prepared and ready president to ever walk into the white house.
He will also be surrounded by the finest staff ever assembled by any president in history.

If you do not want to vote for Barack Obama I can respect that, but by no means think he is not ready to be president. He will be the most ready man to ever win the office.

Thanks for listening
A Florida Obama worker


Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Experience-shmerrience! The new position of McCain is; the LESS the better! I have never been overseas, but I did watch "Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay", which features clips of Cuba AND Amsterdam! I guess that makes me an expert on Latin America, POWs,andHolland. Where do I apply to be Secretary of State?

Posted by: Dave | September 1, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Team A #1Hero, POW (wouldn't leave men behing), experienced Senator,#2 Gov. of Energy State (CEO), Fought corruption in her own party, Mayor,etc -vs-Team B #1Community Organizer (?), State Senator, 147days as Senator says he is qualified to lead,relying on #2 Plagurist Blowhard with two Bypasses for credentials. Check it out, proven experience team A has history of better results for U.S. It must hurt I know.

Posted by: Whiterock | September 1, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

sfernando,

While honestly I don't know much about Gov. Palin (see earlier post), I agree that she could be President.

This is not because she has experience. She is definitely not more experienced than Obama. I mean two trained monkeys with a keyboard could run Alaska. All you have to do be able to cash checks from the Federal Govt.

She can be President because in America we judge someone by their ideas and their ability to communicate them. She would be the least experienced President ever, but some of the least experienced Presidents have been the best (e.g., Abe Lincoln, JFK).

Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse


THE EXPERIENCE MYTH OF OBAMA

I have worked with the Obama campaign on a local level since December and have met and spoken with Obama numerous times. Anyone who thinks Obama is not prepared for the office of president does not know Barack Obama. I don't think the campaign has spoken about it, although there have been articles written, maybe because it may have seemed kind of presumptive doing all this so many months before he even had the nomination, but that is not how Obama works.
Little is left to chance. So here is what the deal is:

Does Obama have the experience to be president, is he ready? It would be hard to say anyone is ready to be president, but what prepares one for the job?

Obama has been getting ready when his nomination was still no more then a dream. Obama has an advisory staff of over a 300. Most all are the top people in their fields. 4 of his staff are the top people on middle east politics in the world. He has numerous people on pretty much everything you could think of from global warming to world economics to energy and foreign policy to the military. Generals to scholars you name it, he has been working with these people for more then a year. Obama is a brilliant man, who easily knows more right now then any candidate who ever ran for the office of president. He is so up to speed it is astounding. John Mccain does not know or grasp a fraction of what Obama does. Mccain is in effect, a dinosaur, compared to Obama now. Mccain has no real practical experience or understanding in many of these areas at all. Just being in Washington for many years does not necessarily make you an expert nor knowledgeable in "Anything".
Bill Clinton said it best when he said,
"No one is really prepared to be president".
He was right and Obama understood that better then anyone long before he even began his journey for the presidency. So for over a year he has been quietly preparing. Like anything such as being a doctor or lawyer or any profession, your first introduction is academic, you go to school. Obama will by no means be learning on the job, he has been in school for more then a year. When enters office, Obama will be the most well prepared and ready president to ever walk into the white house.
He will also be surrounded by the finest staff ever assembled by any president in history.

If you do not want to vote for Barack Obama I can respect that, but by no means think he is not ready to be president. He will be the most ready man to ever win the office.

Thanks for listening
A Florida Obama worker
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fact - if palin is inexperienced to be vice president , obama who has less experience is not qualified to be president.

to say women should exclusively look after children and not work or run for office is a sexist statement.

if palin was a man nobody will tell hims to go look after his teenage daughter or downs child.

Posted by: sfernando | September 1, 2008 8:58 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

They are planning to dump her it has been quietly talked all over the convention. They even focus grouped it the last two days. The results were 2 to 1 against her. They know now she is a BIG mistake.

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I think choosing Sarah Palin was a brilliant move, otherwise the Dems wouldn't be so upset and trying so hard to destroy her.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Nancy, I am not a hypocrite. The "change" that I seek are twofold. 1) A different style of politics and 2) different policies.

1- Obama presents a new style of politics. Note, his response to the Palin pregnancy. The man is honorable. Honestly, I have been dissapointed by McCain's attack ads. I actually used to work for McCain, but his recent ads are not like he used to be.

2- Obama and Biden will bring in Democratic policies. For 12 of the last 20 years, Republican policies have been dominant. In fact, Bill Clinton didn't even push a real Democratic agenda because his whole Presidency was slowed by a Republican congress.

Now is the time for change! We want healthcare. We want policies that benefit workers over corporations! We want a tax code that makes sense! Obama and Biden are our candidates!!!!

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Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

So why is she all lawyered up?

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Do you actually think she would have been picked if there was anything to it.
Read the story on this. If someone said They were going to kill my father, and that person was a cop, I might call his boss and say "I don't think he is qualified to be a cop." The real story is about to come out about B.O. and Mr. Terrorist. Sweet.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

fact - if palin is inexperienced to be vice president , obama who has less experience is not qualified to be president.

to say women should exclusively look after children and not work or run for office is a sexist statement.

if palin was a man nobody will tell hims to go look after his teenage daughter or downs child.

Posted by: sfernando | September 1, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

She got it done, alright . . . kept the pork money?? How is that reform?

I feel badly for the Repubs--they have allowed their party to be highjacked by neo-cons and Evangels, and McCain has bought into it hook, line and sinker. The old McCain could have gotten my vote, but he has caved--he can't claim being a change agent . . . no way, no how, no McCain--

As a senator, "I tried to stop the 233-million 'Bridge to Nowhere' in Alaska,'' McCain said. "She got it done.''

Palin said she told the federal government, "Thanks, but no thanks.''

But she doesn't mention that she endorsed the bridge when she was a candidate for governor. And the money saved did not go back to Washington -- it stayed in Alaska for a different road project.

Posted by: Ang10 | September 1, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone realize that Republicans give much more to charities than Democrats? Democrats expect the government (our taxes) to give, give, give and they take, take, take. Democrats, quit being so dependent on government and take responsibilities for yourself and others less fortunate.

Posted by: Harry | September 1, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

"Muslim fanatic fundamentalists or Christian Fundamentalists - is that the only choice left?

Posted by: Cinncinattus | September 1, 2008 8:45 PM
===========================================There is no difference between the two. Religion is religion is religion. No way can I vote for the republican ticket knowing this woman want creationism taught in our public schools. Never mind all the other crazy religious driven agenda, this one is the Icing on the cake for me.

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 1, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Do you actually think she would have been picked if there was anything to it.
Read the story on this. If someone said They were going to kill my father, and that person was a cop, I might call his boss and say "I don't think he is qualified to be a cop." The real story is about to come out about B.O. and Mr. Terrorist. Sweet.

Posted by: whiterock | September 1, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain's pick is diabolical. He KNOWS he can't win on the issues. So he picks an unknown from ALASKA that will distract our attention for the next month!

Don't get distracted folks. We want real change. We're not going to elect the same player from the last 26 years! McCain is NOT a uniter. Nor is he a maverick. Since 2002, McCain = Bush.

Gov. Palin for VP.... You've got to be kidding me. McCain sucks.

Obama-Biden 2008

Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

And lastly...

Why do I get the faint whiff of "Turd Blossom" here?

Posted by: Cinncinattus | September 1, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

FOR Chris Stewart: how long has Biden been in the Senate? Don't be a hypocrit.

Posted by: Nancy Armstrong | September 1, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Some of you Liberals are not really Liberals. You're hypocrites.

"Go home and take care of your special needs child."
"Trailer trash."

Regionalism and sexism abounds. I'm not voting for McCain under any circumstances, but don't tell me these comments come from true Liberals. In all truth, Barack Obama is far too classy for your votes.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh. and by the way "Palin's name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.," a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings.

SO She's a reformer except for in the case of the most corrupt Senator ever...; Stevens was indicted in July 2008 on seven counts of corruption.

Posted by: Cinncinattus | September 1, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I hate making excuses for my Party's candidate.

This is an affront. Cut bait and get a ticket that say's we lead by example and how we have governed.

I am deeply concerned about her alleged use of her office to go after her ex brother in law by using the State Police. If true that is a huge abuse of power.

Posted by: allan | September 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain was smart to pick Palin, since it gets the media off his back for a few weeks. Everyone can dig up her past while he avoids the issues.

Point 1. Since 2002, McCain = Bush.

Point 2. Palin doesn't believe in global warming.

Point 3. Together the two of them are clueless on 1) the economy and 2) global warming.

Point 4. McCain and Palin have lobbyists as their chief advisors!


McCain = same. McCain = same.

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Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Chris, heres a better one:

There's no place like home.
There's no place like home.
There's no place like home.
There's no place like home.
There's no place like home.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Mcsame ...forget it...man.

Posted by: dave | September 1, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I think choosing Sarah Palin was a brilliant move, otherwise the Dems wouldn't be so upset and trying so hard to destroy her.

Posted by: chuck | September 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Tsk,Tsk..The liberals, Your fake God who has Wright, Ayer, Reztko, Ludicrous, Farrakhan,lobby money, choosing the status quo (sexist Biden), trying to bully and squash, anyone saying anything negative to report should not throw stones.

Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Mark, you might want to look into how Barack got into office. He pretty much used the rules to disqualify his competition instead of running against them. Typical Politics, whats good for him is good for her. Didn't I just hear in a Newsweek interview a major Hillary supporter and contrib just change to McCain Palin ticket reason: B.O. isn't who he says he is. Going to get tough boy and girls.

Posted by: Whiterock | September 1, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Gee. All this pregnancy talk makes it less likely that you'll notice John McCain has totally sold out to the religious far right - Sarah Palin is their price for their votes - and maybe a promise of a Supreme Cpurt appointment or two. This lady is another Assembly of God fanatic - remember John Ashcroft?

Muslim fanatic fundamentalists or Christian Fundamentalists - is that the only choice left?

Posted by: Cinncinattus | September 1, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"Change" is a losing argument for McCain. He hasn't run a campaign on reform. He copied Obama's message.

McCain = same.... He's been in the Senate for 26 years for Christ's sake.


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Posted by: Chris Stewart | September 1, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

The volume and tone of the vitriol being directed at Palin from the left proves two things: first, Democrats are scared of the pick, and second... that moral high ground in the campaign? No longer theirs. Which is worse - making some fuss over a flag pin, or relentlessly smearing a pregnant 17 year old girl?

Posted by: Mike F | September 1, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Mark VanGelder is a shortsighted dullard who looks only for the problem rather than for the solution.
Best of luck when you take it in the butt from your boyfriend after Obama supplies him with the free money to buy more Vaseline because he is "a black man in need."

Posted by: johnny moonpack | September 1, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

If resume and experience count for anything, Palin is more qualified than Obama.

Palin is only running for VP, while Obama is running for President.

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/

Now who's more qualified?

Are less qualified men (Obama) more qualified just because they're men?

Posted by: Mark | September 1, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

So now McCain has moved off of the "experience" mantra and taken up "change". GREAT!!!


Now we have two candidates promising "change" and MAYBE we can finally start having a decent discussion about how they plan to accomplish their changes.


Or maybe we can simply have two more months of "Rezko!" "Troopergate!" "Wright!" "Teen pregnancy!" and whatever other garbage comes up.


My hope is for the former. My expectations are for the latter...

Posted by: philkoltko | September 1, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Jambo86. You show the some difference between Republican and Democrat is common sense and compassion for all. Maybe you would have been more happy if she would have aborted the "Punishment" and Sarah had just left her baby to die on the table like your Idol supports. Our vpotus canidate is more qualified than your potus canidate. Get over it. Better luck in 2012.

Posted by: David Suther | September 1, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin is mayor of a borough in Alaska, runs for governor and wins by default (her opponent was unelectable), shakes her high heels at some corrupt Republicans and all the sudden she's qualified to be president. I don't think so. This is the same woman whom recently asked "What does a vice president do?" This may be cutesy and funny to some, but it scares the hell out of me! Go back home where you belong, Sarah, and take care of your special needs child!

Posted by: Mark VanGelder | September 1, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"Trailer Trash"

**Drink!**

McCain/Palin '08!

Posted by: TWG78 | September 1, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The Sarah Palin story is beginning to look more and more like the stories of so many poor families who live in trailer parks across the nation. Her sister tells some kind of marital horror-story (it takes two to tango). Palin uses her power as governor to try to get her ex-brother-in-law fired because of her sister’s sorry marriage. Now, it turns out that Palin has no control over her own daughter who does not even follow one of the governor’s principle directives, sexual abstinence. I bet a lot of Republicans actually think Palin’s daughter had sex only once and had only the one partner. Whatever! Do we really think that this person is qualified to be one heartbeat away (a weak and elderly heartbeat at that) from being the leader of the free-world. Not a good choice, Mr. McCain. Very poor judgement!!

Posted by: Jambo86 | September 1, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

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