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Palin Talks Up Clinton on ABC


ABC News anchor Charles Gibson, right, talks with Republican vice presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, in Wasilla, Alaska, in an interview on Sept. 11, 2008. (AP/ABC, Donna Svennik)

Updated 8:27 p.m.
By Anne E. Kornblut
WASILLA, Alaska -- Venturing into tricky political territory, Gov. Sarah Palin said on Friday that she thinks Sen. Barack Obama regrets not picking Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.

"I think he's regretting not picking her now, I do," Palin told ABC News anchor Charles Gibson in the third interview with her to air this week. "What, what determination and grit, and even grace through some tough shots that were fired her way -- she handled those well."

Palin started out her vice presidential campaign more than two weeks ago by praising Clinton -- but quickly dropped the line from her stump speech after it received boos from a Republican audience.

Before joining the ticket, Palin was critical of Clinton for complaining -- "whining," in her words -- about sexism during the primaries. "When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism, or maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, 'Man, that doesn't do us any good, women in politics, or women in general, trying to progress in this country,'" she said earlier this year.

The McCain campaign is nonetheless trying to use the Palin selection to lure women voters, especially independents and Democrats who backed Clinton in the Democratic primaries. At a rally in Fairfax earlier this week, a former Clinton supporter was among those who warmed up the crowd before Palin and Sen. John McCain arrived.

Clinton has said little about Palin so far. Although she is stepping up her campaigning for Obama -- she has raised about $4 million for him so far and has stops in Ohio scheduled for this Sunday -- Clinton would like to avoid directly engaging the Republican vice presidential nominee, her advisers have said.

In the same ABC interview, Palin also denied seeking earmarks for Alaska both as mayor and as governor. She grew defensive when asked about specific earmarks that were allowed on her watch, such as $3.2 million for researching the genetics of harbor seals -- the kind of extravagant spending that McCain has promised to eliminate. "Those requests, through our research divisions and fish and game and our wildlife departments and our universities, those research requests did come through that system, but wanting it to be in the light of day, not behind closed doors, with lobbyists making deals with Congress to stick things in there under the public radar," Palin said. "That's the abuse that we're going to stop."

Obama surrogates did not take kindly to Palin's remarks. "Sarah Palin should spare us the phony sentiment and respect. Governor Palin accused Senator Clinton of whining and John McCain laughed when a questioner referred to her by using a demeaning expletive. John McCain and Sarah Palin represent no meaningful change, just the same failed policies and same divisive, demeaning politics that has devastated the middle class," said Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

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Folks are screamig that we need to resolve the economy healthcare, etc among issues, but folks why are we still playing games to see WHO can outdo the other by using race cards,gender cards and WS cards?a; This is not about electing the President who can bring about the change we can believe in, its about electing a president who looks like all the other presidents who have broken America. This is what's regretable. On SaraMcsame, she is too busy trying to score on the good ole GOP boys. She is not for real.In the end she will soon shove JMcShame to the curb. Thats when we see side of the Pitbull part of the race.We women are not stupid. we will still vote for the change we need and can believe in.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

The Post should "quote" Sarah Palin exactly as she speaks. In her interview with Charlie Gibson, she did not say Obama must be regretting not picking Hillary … she said "regrettin" and "pickin".

Much of her language is like this … not someone you want to represent the U.S., especially when speaking to our young people who need help education, or when speaking to diplmats and representatives of other countries.

Posted by: Barbara | September 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin should not mention Hillary's name out of her mouth.It is like comparing Apples and oranges. Hillary is More Experience and has more tact than Palin. She should not name drop for Political Gain. Because it will not work.

Posted by: Misglo | September 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton's Former Chief Strategist on Palin and the Media-

CBS News 9/12/08

CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. And that's going to subject them to people concluding that they're giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, "Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time."

What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.
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Keep it up- the Independents are watching-

September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of IndependentsMajority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%USA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.


By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters' general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive.


Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are not praising Hillary Clinton! They are making a cynical gambit at using her: her name, what she represents to maligned women. How upside-down and bizzaro-world'ish have things become that someone who is the definition of antithesis of what Hillary Clinton represents is running on her name and "appealing" to her supporters, past and present? So that's the Palin strategy, and McCain is the reformer... who's been in Washington for 28 years? You can't make stuff like this up!

Posted by: Don Moore | September 14, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

If it were not so indicative of the Palin double speak, I would be giggling away at her attempt to stand up for clinton. The guy she is running with made the most disgusting filthy remark about the parentage of Chelsea and now she expects us to forget all about his filth as she tries and tries to get Clinton supporters to join the McCain lies-express. Only someone who is delusional would make such an assumption and I remember well how my mom divided that word, assume.

Posted by: Mari | September 13, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Wine or lose ... it seems like O'Bama is defining change as the OLD WAY OF DOING POLITICS ... THE WASHINGTON WAY ... I must say that he is stubborn and it may cost him the lection and leave the fight fr another day ANOTHER CENTURY. It takes about 40 years or so (hearking back to JFK) when someone fresh and new with challenges beyond ourselves comes along to inspire us. It saddens me that I might not be around to see it if O'Bama loses this election. As a senior ... I am inspired by the youth of this country ... but, I am equally saddened by the style of campaigning that is pointless, frivilous and full of falsehoods that do us no good. THE WIN AT ALL COST mentality. We all suffer ... we really need to say YES WE CAN and rid ourselves of all these lobbyist that do not represent "We the people ..." We really need change in Washington ... and even though Sarah Palin might also represent that change ... I am less convinced about her genuineness ... and questions continue to bother me about this sudden rise to be that close to being President of the United States. If she is Cheney, she will be running the government behind the scenes ... and John McCain will be her mouthpiece. Sad

Posted by: Win or Lose | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

A VOTE FOR McCAIN PALIN ... IS A VOTE TO LET PALIN LEARN ON THE JOB ... An insult you say to experience or even the hard work that someone like Hillary put into her 18 months of primary campaining plus roles in government.

It is laugable ... that after November 2008 that American will awake to NOT A NEW DAY ... but SAME OLD DIVISIONS while the rest of the world marches on.

China, Russia, India

Osma Bin Laden has done us irreparible damage ... not just on 9/11 but to the American psychy.

CHNAGE MEANS MOVING ON AS A COUNTRY- AND DEFYING THOSE WHO WANT THIS ELECTION TO BE ABOUT GENDER, CULTURE, OIL AND LIES

Posted by: TheJoke | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr Krauthammer and your surrogate Chuck Wagon,

I beg to differ with you. The "Bush Doctrine" that you seem to think you first pinned down was accually articulated by the Bush posse before he was elected. The concept of unilateralism and "pre-emptive" war was part and parcel of the "American Century" paper written by Cheney and co. The idea of "first strike" is also not even particularly original, if ever more dangerous. It won't do you any good, Herr Kraut-hammer, to spin the doctrinaire Bush policies nor to pat yourself on the back for your own cleverness in naming them.

But lets return to the subject at hand: Palin's suitability for Vice President.


As a woman who has promoted chastity as a method of birth control, I think she has failed to explain this concept to her daughter. It's not enough to have beliefs, no matter how strongly they may be held.
Her simplistic reasoning seems to also infect her nationalism as seems to be bourn out by her son. It's one thing to join the army (a volenteer army wouldn't last long without those who felt the call), but it's quite another thing to join up on the eleventh of Sept. This smacks of a need to fulfill a symbolic psychological lack rather than a sense of patriotic duty.

Somewhere Governor Palin's ideas seem to reflect more simplistic thinking than she would wish. On top of this we have the pseudo-feminism of glass cielings and pit-bullying. If American voters don't see through her behaviour, I've got news. The rest of the world has moved beyond the 19th century with its jingoistic slogans such as King and Country. America has made itself a laughing stock over the last eight years. The American people have a patriotic duty to turn the republicans out of Washington.

Yours sincerely, Chris Brown in Hamburg

Posted by: Chris Brown | September 13, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

It is hilarious to see Republicans praising Hillary Clinton. What a difference a year makes. Last year the Republican candidates were fighting each other over who could heap the most scorn on Senator Clinton, "Hillary Care," and the "nanny" state.

Posted by: Chuck | September 13, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

September 13, 2008
Charlie Gibson's Gaffe
By Charles Krauthammer

"Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of `anticipatory self-defense.'" -- New York Times, Sept. 12

WASHINGTON -- Informed her? Rubbish.

The Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today.

He asked Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?"

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what respect, Charlie?"

Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, he grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense."

Wrong.

I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of The Weekly Standard titled, "The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to Congress nine days later, Bush declared: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime." This "with us or against us" policy regarding terror -- first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the Bush Doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq War was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of pre-emptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.

It's not. It's the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of Bush foreign policy and the one that most distinctively defines it: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush's second inaugural address: "The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."

This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was consciously meant to echo John Kennedy's pledge that the United States "shall pay any price, bear any burden ... to assure the survival and the success of liberty." It draws also from the Truman doctrine of March 1947 and from Wilson's 14 points.

If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking about Bush's grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda.

Not the Gibson doctrine of pre-emption.

Not the "with us or against us" no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days.

Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration.

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines, which came out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Gibson. And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, "sounding like an impatient teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes' reaction to the phenom who presumes to play on their stage.

Posted by: scott | September 13, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The only fools that claim that HRC supporters are fully behind NObama now are Nob's media prostitute pals and Nob woshipping gutter rat groupies.

It cracks me up how media prostitutes like Roland Martin and other Nob pimps claim on TV that all HRC supporters are behind Nob now. How would these pimps know? From day one, these media prostitutes have been pimping for Nob and trashing HRC using race and sex cards. Now they speak for us?

I don't see any more polls lately how many HRC supporters are for NOb or Mac, and how many will sit home. Perhaps the media prostitutes are afraid to do those polls, because it will burst their gas bubble. The last time we checked, around the time of Nob coronation in Denver, fully 1/3 of HRC supporters were supporting Mac now, and only 1/2 were committed to Nob.

Is it any surprise that there has been a 20 pt swing among white women towards Mac away from Nob since Palin selection? Where do the gutter rat groupies of Nob think those swings came from? From HRC supporting women, that's who.

So, take all your theories such as "HRC supporters will never vote Mac, and against their own interest", and stuff them in your nether regions. HRC supporters know our self interest is in seeing HRC in the WH on Jan 21, 2013. And the only way that can happen is if we vote against Nob on Nov 4, 2008.

Posted by: intcamd1 | September 13, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"Why attack the monkey, when you can attack the organ grinder instead?"

Okay... but couldn't we spank the monkey just little?

Posted by: Paul Begala on Bill Maher | September 13, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Palin was on to something when she said Obama is now regretting not picking Clinton, and she hit a nerve. After not having commented on the ABC interview with Palin, they came out with that statement lastnight, and that statement frankly came off as rather malicious. Meanwhile, Palin seemed as if she was being genuine and complimentary to Clinton. This was a win for Palin.

Posted by: Kate | September 13, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Marist 09/05 - 09/08 805 RV 48 45 Obama +3
Fairleigh Dickinson 09/04 - 09/07 872 LV 47 41 Obama +6
Quinnipiac 08/04 - 08/10 1468 LV 51 41 Obama +10
Rasmussen 08/04 - 08/04 500 LV 52 42 Obama +10
Monmouth/Gannett 07/17 - 07/21 698 LV 50 36 Obama +14

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Look out below....there goes New Jersey!
14pt lead down to margin of error in 6wks.
Looks like Sarah's wowing them in Secaucus....and Seattle and Helena Montana and Raleigh NC, and...

Hey Democrats, how's that "Western Strategy" working out against the Senator from Arizona and The Governor of Alaska? Not so well, huh? I suppose to win you'll have to go after NC and Georgia again...oops.

Election 2008 Latest Polls
Friday, September 12
Race Poll Results Spread
Missouri Rasmussen McCain 51, Obama 46 McCain +5
Oklahoma Rasmussen McCain 63, Obama 32 McCain +31
Washington Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2

Ohio Univ. of Cinci McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4

Thursday, September 11
Race Poll Results Spread
Ohio InAdv/PollPosition McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1
Florida InAdv/PollPosition McCain 50, Obama 42 McCain +8
Michigan InAdv/PollPosition Obama 44, McCain 45 McCain +1

Colorado InAdv/PollPosition Obama 49, McCain 46 Obama +3
Georgia InAdv/PollPosition McCain 56, Obama 38 McCain +18
Nevada InAdv/PollPosition McCain 46, Obama 45 McCain +1
Wyoming Rasmussen McCain 58, Obama 39 McCain +19
Alaska Rasmussen McCain 64, Obama 33 McCain +31
Idaho Rasmussen McCain 68, Obama 29 McCain +39

North Carolina Research 2000 McCain 55, Obama 38 McCain +17
New Mexico Rasmussen Obama 47, McCain 49 McCain +2

Mississippi Research 2000 McCain 55, Obama 37 McCain +18
Ohio Strategic Vision (R) McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4
Michigan CNN/Time Obama 49, McCain 45 Obama +4
Virginia CNN/Time McCain 50, Obama 46 McCain +4
Colorado PPP (D) Obama 47, McCain 46 Obama +1
Missouri CNN/Time McCain 50, Obama 45 McCain +5

Georgia Strategic Vision (R) McCain 52, Obama 39 McCain +13


Pennsylvania Quinnipiac Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3

Florida Quinnipiac McCain 50, Obama 43 McCain +7


Alabama AEA/Capital Survey McCain 55, Obama 35 McCain +20
Wednesday, September 10
Race Poll Results Spread

Montana Rasmussen McCain 53, Obama 42 McCain +11
North Dakota Rasmussen McCain 55, Obama 41 McCain +14

North Carolina SurveyUSA McCain 58, Obama 38 McCain +20
Pennsylvania Strategic Vision (R) Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
West Virginia MBE McCain 44, Obama 39 McCain +5

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:31 AM | Report abuse

support WWIII. america against the world. fk yeah!

palin/mccain

Posted by: anon_softc*ck | September 13, 2008 5:32 AM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:09 AM | Report abuse

I have a question: why *didn't* McCain pick Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Elizabeth Dole? Is it because they aren't 110% pro-life like Palin? Is there some other reason?

Posted by: jennybean | September 13, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

So Palin exhibits what level of intelligence? She is only capable remembering scripted answers. Carl Rove - eat your hat, attacking targets that fit the 30 second bite is the only way for GOP to win. Sadly Americans feel a need to believe in someone that would stand up for WMD as being a cause for going to war. Let's start with the idiocracy that Princess Palin represents, where does that leave us in the world? At 3AM everyone should be awake worrying about who is at the helm. Vote and be heard in protest against this person that does not represent intelligence on the global scale. Only Obama exhibits that capacity.

Posted by: CaliforniaBoy | September 13, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Invest in a macintosh computer my friends. Had one since 1996.
The so called earth talk was edited a few times, frame, by frame to be sutible to all of you.

Posted by: justadad55+ | September 13, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Remember how excited Republicans were at the prospect of Fred Thompson running for president? The current pool of candidates were all duds in the eyes of the base as the most well-known of the bunch (John McCain and Rudy Guiliani) had made some big decisions while in power that conflicted with the ideology of the Religious Right. There was so much excitement over the prospect Fred Thompson running! He was the true heir to the mantle of Ronald Reagan! He rejuvenated the base.

So how is it that he was a complete flop in the primaries? What exactly was it that happened to douse the fire? There was definitely strong enthusiasm for his candidacy... Where did it go? Until someone can answer those questions, why should we have no reason to believe that Sarah Palin is anything more than another flash in the Republican pan? Her surprise selection made her an instant celebrity (gasp--the C-word!) as everyone obsessed with trying to find out who this person was.

Will the remainder of the election cycle be long enough to sustain another wave of fleeting Republican enthusiasm for their latest celebrity candidate or will she be just another Fred Thompson: all hat, no cattle?

Posted by: Palin Comparison | September 13, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Oh Sarah, just spare us the BS, would you? BTW, if Obama had picked Hillary, you would have remained Mrs. Nobody on your Bridge to Nowhere, which is where your place is anyway.

Posted by: BS Buster | September 13, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Wow! A lot of desperation in the liberals' comments.

Posted by: Steve in Albuquerque | September 13, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Having watch the interviews with Good Time Charley Gibson, I can say with certainty that Sarah Palin has the will of a Moose . . . but isn't as smart.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

James Carvelle had it right: you never know what you'll come up with when you drag a $100 bill around the trailer park.

McCain got Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Of course the GOP wanted Hillary elected. Rush Limbaugh campaigned for her. So did Hannity.

Now ask yourself: why?

Because they were loaded for bear and ready to attack her mercilessly for any perceived slight, and don't think that they didn't have a boat load of material to attack her with. They had been waiting for eight years to go after her.

As for Palin, wasn't she the one that said Hillary should stop whining about rough treatment during a campaign? Maybe she should take the same advice . . . and while she's at it, face the real press instead of her flack Good Time Charley.

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Here is why John McCain picked Sara Palin
One he wanted Hilary Clinton’s woman Votes, thinking her Voters were just stupid.
Republican Party wants us to forget about fact WMD & manipulated going to wars abusing power 6 years while GOP was rubber stamp for Bush/Cheney in senate and congress at that time where was John McCain?
One thing I total did not liked John McCain campaign asking Obama to apology for pig/lipstick Remark
Many more politicians used that line before including republican and Dick Cheney

Posted by: free910 | September 13, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

You bet he regrets it. Even Joe Biden said he probably made an error by not pikcing Hillary. He would be ahead had he.

Now it's probably McCains race to lose. Poor Obama has lost his mojo.

Posted by: jmd | September 13, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Have any of are best friends ever thought that Hillary lost, BUT can come back in 4 years. It's worth the chance and change. She will have great influence on Obama just where she is. She knows it and Bill does to, although I hope he stays out of her campaign in 4 years. You can't beat a great lady, but Clintinites, don't bugger her up and make her eventual Presidency worse to handle
Don't leave Hillary with more than she can possibly handle with another 4 years of Republicans. Vote Obama for now, then Hillary has a chance.

Posted by: justadad55+ | September 13, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Sarah, Please don't stop now - you're on a heavenly roll. You've made it to the top and the air is sweet and clear. It all makes sense now. You're almost there - the brass ring is within reach, just keep opening your vapid mouth a little bit longer so we can all see who you really are. The fall is going to be brutal, embarassing, and cold. Arrogance is such a cruel master.

Posted by: ronimacz | September 13, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Good people of America,

Senator McCain is an honorable man who has served our country well. However, he is too beholdant to the republican party and the special interests that control it to become an effective president. Please don’t make the critical mistake of being swayed by the republican party fear mongering ploys. This is how Bush was elected eight and four years ago and look where it has brought this country to. An endless war of questionable worth, an economy in shambles and a world that is suspicious or even hateful of us. There are too many similarities between McCain and Palin and George Bush. America is in a very challenging period facing competition from many parts of the world. We need a leader who is intelligent and capable of understanding the complexities of today’s world economy and technologies. We simply cannot risk four more years of the old system. We need new fresh and creative ways to solve our problems.

Posted by: verycreative | September 13, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

and yes, anne....we all remember the snide articles you wrote about hillary during the primaries....I see things haven't changed much...though, I guess you now have another pretty girl to remind you why you are not one of them and hence, continue to let it show in your writing...

Posted by: ogdeeds | September 13, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

"or this is a republican strategy to portray Hillary supporters as insane and emotionally unstable?"

No! Rightwingers wouldn't avoid issues and sling mud and tell lies just to get elected, would they?

Posted by: castanea | September 12, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Many of the answers that Palin gave about NATO, Israel and GOD are indentical to what Obama has said in recent interviews of his own. But as a friend, who is a member of the so called eastern media elite here in DC, said: She means it!http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Revenge of teh PUMAs | September 12, 2008 11:29 PM

....................................

Allow me to be blunt, are Hillary supporters (aka) PUMA's, that stupid? or this is a republican strategy to portray Hillary supporters as insane and emotionally unstable?.

In any case it is evident that there are some "party unity my *ss" clintonistas that are so bitter and so pissed off they already forgot their allegiance to the democratic party and Clinton herself.

In a rapture of an hormonal insanity and irrationality, they have decided to destroy everything they fought for just because of the presence of a token female in the republican ticket who defends principles PUMA's were so vocal against.

What's the matter with some clintonistas?, are you out of your mind?

Stop thinking with your ovaries and start using your brain.

Posted by: eaglestrk | September 12, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't need Clinton the way McCain needs Palin. This year is a battle for the ages and this time the right side will win. Once the people go in to vote, they'll take a deep breath, clear their heads and vote for the real change. Out with the old and in with the new...Obama/Biden 2008
Obama chose Biden to help him clean up Washington from the inside out. That's what a wise man does.

Posted by: Terry | September 12, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

emperor's clothes. emperor's clothes. emperor's clothes. period.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | September 12, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

free910, good call.

if people would disengage from the sparkle factor of palin, and, simply, listen to what is said about specific policy, we wouldn't hear much.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | September 12, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is arrogance personified.She did not blink when asked to be Mccain's runningmate since she was so sure that she can vow the "American people"with her expertise on economy and national security.She is judgemental in reading Obama's mind and declares he regrets not selecting Hillary!This woman has been governor of a state half the size of my town!Of course her proximity to Russia is an advantage!She has no humility,She fits the mold.She fires people at will.She has contempt for anyone who does not agree with her.Did she know Jesus was a community worker?Bur Sarah is better than Jesus becos she was mayor with resonsibilities!She has the right combination to carry the future of the party singlehandedly:giuliani's arrogance,McCain's manipulation,Bush's ignorance,Rove's dishonesty and Cheney's comtempt.The party as observed by Newt has a bright future with Sarah Palin.She can have the party for all she wants,leave the country alone!

Posted by: urojen | September 12, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I am not Democrat or GOP person,
One thing I notice GOP Ticket have not address issues that our nation facing,
They are using same tact tic that was used by Bush/Cheney Negative campaign to draw away attention we facing.
I don’t understand GOP claim that smaller Government claim but if you see who is Bailing out all the wall street company with Billions of dollars costing Tax payers money?
Our national Debt have gone up 3 time in last 8 years is that you call smaller government?
If we don’t open our eyes this time then shame on us

Posted by: free910 | September 12, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Sarcastic Sarah is a flash in the pantsuit. McCain would have done better by having a sweepstakes to choose his VP.

Posted by: DemoDevil | September 12, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

The reason so many of us are upset with the choice of Palin as VP candidate is this: Everyone wants to know abou their candidates and so we have had months of primary debates and speeches to give the people the chance to sort it out. Now McCain picks Palin out of the blue and I fear we won't learn all that we need to know about her in 2 months. When women come to the fore in the democratic party, they earn it.

Posted by: Hereticus | September 12, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Many of the answers that Palin gave about NATO, Israel and GOD are indentical to what Obama has said in recent interviews of his own. But as a friend, who is a member of the so called eastern media elite here in DC, said: She means it!http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Revenge of teh PUMAs | September 12, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh, is that what you think Sarah? So glad you can read minds. Unlike McCain who made a purely political decision, Obama put the best interest of the country first. He wanted someone with top notch foreign policy experience, a straight talker, someone who could actually step into his shoes if the unthinkable happen. The easy, political thing to do would have been to bow to pressure and pick Clinton. He had good reasons not to pick her, none of which had to do with her competence. The Clintons would have created a constant distraction. The right wing nut jobs would have been having a field day dredging up all the all garbage. And then there's Bill. I'm sure Obama didn't want to deal with all that.

Posted by: spicegal | September 12, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

If Obama had picked Hillary Clinton as is running mate, the Republicans would not have chose a faux feminist like Palin. Why, Hillary would have eaten Sara alive.

The only reason for choosing Palin is to pretend interest in and caring for women's issues. Hour by hour and day by day it is becoming clear that Palin does not qualify for the VP job. But, she does qualify for being inconsistent, expedient and untruthful.


Posted by: Peter | September 12, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

"Governor Palin is kicking butt and taking names! I love this woman!"

She's sticking her foot in her mouth! As is McCain! Every word out of her mouth is a vote for the Dmocratic party!
Eat it November,you morons!

Posted by: tom | September 12, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Marist 09/05 - 09/08 805 RV 48 45 Obama +3
Fairleigh Dickinson 09/04 - 09/07 872 LV 47 41 Obama +6
Quinnipiac 08/04 - 08/10 1468 LV 51 41 Obama +10
Rasmussen 08/04 - 08/04 500 LV 52 42 Obama +10
Monmouth/Gannett 07/17 - 07/21 698 LV 50 36 Obama +14

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Look out below....there goes New Jersey!
14pt lead down to margin of error in 6wks.
Looks like Sarah's wowing them in Secaucus.

Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

"Andy, MI said - I am a HRC fan and I truly believe BO is not president material."

Exactly.

I heard someone wonder if Sarah Palin is ready on day one to be president, if something untoward happens to McCain.

I wonder - is Obama ready on day one to be president, if something untoward doesn't happen to him? Sure, he has Biden to help him, and he can always make those 3am phone calls, yet .....

Posted by: Krishna | September 12, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin needs to take care of her family and her state, not the country.
McCain made the wrong choice.

Posted by: tom | September 12, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

"I will not vote for McCain, but I will write HRC in. Does that make sense? Thanks"

It only makes sense if you are indifferent on all the issues facin the country.

Posted by: RealChoices | September 12, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

FYI Chuckled

The Democrats would be getting 90% of the black vote regardless of the nominee. This is a great failure of the Republican party.
The party of Lincoln became the party of the southern strategy.
As I've said often. I can't wait for the first Italian, Mexican or Jewish Presidential nominee. I guarantee you they too will be getting 90% of their ethnicity.

Posted by: Sheila | September 12, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I will not vote for McCain, but I will write HRC in. Does that make sense? Thanks

Posted by: Andy, MI | September 12, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

MAYBE MCCAIN WILL REGRET NOT PICKING RICE. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE, HOCKEY MOM WITH NO EXPERIENCE. GO AND JOIN THE RANKS OF PARIS HILTON AND BRITTNEY NOW AND FADE INTO THE SUNSET WITH YOUR GRANDPA MCCAIN.

Posted by: kubrickstan | September 12, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, can this woman be a bigger fraud.

"She grew defensive when asked about specific earmarks that were allowed on her watch...."those research requests did come through that system...That's the abuse that we're going to stop.""

Notice the passive voice, gosh "earmarks... how did that happen?" I guess nobody was in charge in Wasilla or Alaska under her watch!

Posted by: RealChoices | September 12, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Sarah Palin is simply trying to belittle her debate opponent Joe Biden, whom she expects to dispatch mercilessly.

Posted by: Old white guy | September 12, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

The one good thing that could come out of the elections if Barack wins is, his policies and who is he would be exposed. The Democrat controlled congress would be exposed for who they are. Even the media would not be able to cover for them for too long. It could seriously injure the leftist wing of the Demo party.

Posted by: The upside of Obama winning | September 12, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Ok you caught me

Posted by: Andy, MI | September 12, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

It is telling that when Charlie wanted to visit her alma mater she had to take him to a high school.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Andy if you supported HRC and her values you could never vote for McCain lying Neo con

Posted by: brock101 | September 12, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin is kicking butt and taking names! I love this woman!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

What is regrettable is that the immoral liar McCain has unleashed this incredibly stupid yet arrogant person (ala George W Bush): Sarah Palin on the country. "Country first" is a hollow Orwellian slogan...the idiot right wing nutjobs eat slogans and shut their eyes to action and reality...there is a thin line between blind stupid faith and being a lemming brained idiot going over the cliff. I wouldn't care if they would just jump over the cliff and splatter without taking the country down with them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Andy stop it wannabe neo con

Posted by: brock101 | September 12, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin need to keep it real. She is Bush in a dress.

Posted by: brock101 | September 12, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I am a HRC fan and I truly believe BO is not president material. We all know he has a different set of values, uses languages in stump speeches that my 6 yr old know are bad words. Also, look at the way he lain flowers at ground zero on 9/11. He threw the flowers! As an American, I am offended by such demeanor.

Posted by: Andy, MI | September 12, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh Please! Spare me the fake remorse! You who would mock Hillary and call her a whiner now feel so sorry she's not on Obama's ticket? Give me a break! Are women really falling for this farce? Roe v Wade is history my friends if this joker prevails. As for the Republicans in the room: how did you like Sarah's performance on national security with Charles Gibson - where's Dan Quayle when you need him, you think?

Posted by: cmgmaggie | September 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Hate to tell you, Gov, but I bet Obama doesn't regret not picking Hillary. And it would be fun to see how you'd spin it if he had. You pubs are so funny...and transparent.

Posted by: gypsymoon | September 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I found it interesting when people say it's insulting to suggest any women would vote McCain/Palin on gender. When you look at the flip side of the coin, 90+% of African Americans in this country support Barack Obama. Let's be honest, it would be quite foolish to suggest all of them are doing so because of issues and not ethnicity.

Posted by: Chuckled | September 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I am a HRC fan and I truly believe BO is not president material. We all know he has a different set of values, uses languages in stump speeches that my 6 yr old know are bad words. Also, look at the way he lain flowers at ground zero on 9/11. He threw the flowers! As an American, I am offended by such demeanor.

Posted by: Andy, MI | September 12, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton would like to avoid directly engaging the Republican vice presidential nominee, her advisers have said."

This does make Hillary's support of Obama a bit suspect, since Palin's bs pitch is aimed at Hillary supporters. Do Hillary and McCain have some secret pact after all, as Maureen Dowd suggested?

Posted by: RealChoices | September 12, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin is pimping out Hillary to undecided white women.

If Hillary doesn't fight back strongly tomorrow she is making a huge mistake.

Posted by: PalinPimpin | September 12, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

This is such horsh*t! They are continuing to nurse the grievances of some Clinton supporters, "hey, you can get back at Obama by voting for McCain-Palin." This is such transparent dishonesty. Palin is an empty suit, I expect her to say whatever her handlers tell her to say. McCain, frankly, is above this, I'm surprised he has lowered himself to such gutter tactics.

Posted by: RealChoices | September 12, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Copyed from other site:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN: 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
OBAMA: 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN: 15% (no change)
OBAMA: 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA
- Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I am proud to be a liberal. Neo con wannabes don't get it. War merchants love the hannity crowd, because when a liberal tried to end war profiteering and fraud Leahy amendment 3292 john mccain voted against it. When a Moderate like Jim webb once a republican introduced the new g.i. bill john mccain opposed it. Think about it where do you wannabe neo cons get your information?

Posted by: brock101 | September 12, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

No one reads comments this far down.

But, for the little it's worth, McCain would not have picked Palin had Obama picked Clinton. McCain's decision was made after Obama announced Biden, not before.

Posted by: GW | September 12, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't Palin add more "wisdom", like "Obama likes hamburgers" and "Obama regrets that the US dollar is devalued". Obama had to choice from several great Democratic Veep choices, each with strengths and weaknesses. He went with Biden. Great, he is probably happy about that choice but I'm sure he regrets not having the other choices as his no.2 also. Clinton, Bayh, and even Edwards all had something to bring...He could only pick one.

He's moved on...and although the GOP is pulling every lie and spin they can out of the book that Rove wrote...they know Obama can win. I think the final phase of treachery will be some thinly disguised race play - something willy-hortonish or perhaps what they pulled on Harold Ford.

My bet is that it will come a day or two before election day...and McCain can denounce the ad/effort just when tistoo late. The damage will be done.

I hope I'm wrong about this, but lets just look at how these GOP folks have lied and played the game over the last week. Considering how effective past GOP race plays have been, I'm surprised the polls are still a practical dead heat. It leads me to believe that Obama can gain a percentage point a week as the true emptiness of the GOP lies is slowly recognized by more and more voters.

Will it be enough? Time will tell, but be observant for more campaign season crap.

Posted by: DOnny | September 12, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Deep down inside, many of us "Elitists" are secretly wishing that Obama loses so we can sit back and see the Red State morons continued to be pimped out and screwed by a GOP leadership that could really care less about them, their families, their jobs, their schools, their healthcare, and their lives.

It happened 8 years ago, it happened 4 years ago, and it may happen again.

I can hear the wailing from here.

Posted by: Losercuda | September 12, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Palin is truly trailer trash!

Former Republican John Cole on Sarah Palin:

Sarah Palin is the distilled essence of wingnut. She has it all. She is dishonest. She is a religious nut. She is incurious. She is anti-science. She is inexperienced. She abuses her authority. She hides behind executive privilege. She is a big spender. She works from the gut and places a greater value on instinct than knowledge.

And most dangerous of all, she is supremely self-confident to the point of not recognizing how ill-equipped she is to lead the country.

Why do you think they love her so?

Cole really nails it here:

George Bush in a dress. The Palin interview should be a gut-check for Republicans and conservatives who think the last eight years has been a perversion of conservative principles. I am betting most of them will not even put down their pom-poms, though.

www.dailykos.com

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

Posted by: LH | September 12, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I suspect McCain regrets picking a running mate that has turned him into even more of a pathetic old man.

Posted by: Sarah Palin is Harriett Miers with a nice rack | September 12, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

OMG--this has become a total farce! Watching the Gibson interview now--it's hysterical.

I can assure you, if she were a man, I'd be laughing every bit as hard--no, harder.

Palin's depth in any national-level policy issues is equivalent to my 6-year old's sandbox. Thanks McCain for making it that much easier for me to say goodbye to today's idiot-loving GOP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

As a woman, the most insulting thing about all of this is that I would base my vote solely on gender. I didn't vote for Hillary because I thought she was too divisive and too self-absorbed. I wouldn't vote for McCain Palin because they are both totally out for themselves and don't care a whit about this country. Palin is beyond clueless and she has to realize after her interview with ABC that she is not equipped to be Vice President much less President, but will that stop her -- no way!!! This is about Sarah not about the country. The fact that she didn't "blink" when she was asked confirms this point. ANY decent human being who wants to serve their country stops and blinks. They think, they pray, they consult those who they respect and admire. Only someone totally self-absorbed says Yup, I be your running mate. He didn't ask her if she wanted to come to dinner, he asked her to be VP, that should have warranted deep consideration on both their parts. And that, my friends, is the issue.

Posted by: RealityChecks | September 12, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin's pretty cocky for someone who barely brought McCain's numbers even with Obama. Given the controversy surrounding the recent polls (the integrity of the recent polls are being questioned as it turns out the polls are using a higher percentage of republicans to survey than democrats) Palin is setting herself up for national embarassment.

Many are starting to inquire into the methodology of the pollisters, as well as question whether Palin is the phenom the media was so quick to dub her.

The obvious questions being asked now are: 1) if Palin is such a phenom, then why haven't McCain's numbers blown past Obama?

2) Why is McCain just pulling even in polls--even with a survey pool with a greater number of republicans than democrats?

Looks like Palin is a phenom to a very small segment of the population--that being the ultra conservative extremists.

Posted by: socalgal59 | September 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I see the the McCain campaign is after you Ann, for daring to question Palin's foreign policy statements. You have to love how the GOP tries to personally attack and take down journalists that arouse their displeasure.

Really, I hope we can stop listening to this lady pretty soon. She has already proven that she has no credibility on either foreign or domestic policy. That her persona as a reformer is phony. What does she have to offer, then? A bunch of phony panders to sexism?

I don't see us sisters falling for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Mary | September 12, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

If John McCain had real intentions of cleaning up Washington, he would have started at home and carried out the "honorable" campaign he promised. What good is a country free of earmarks if it is laid to waste first by cultural warfare? If John McCain manages to win the presidency, it will be a pyrrhic victory. Intellectually honest people of all affiliations will never trust his word. He will be forever resented for perpetuating Rovian politics under the Orwellian banners of "Country First" and “Straight Talk”. And to think he once sounded so indignant when he complained that Rove and Bush "know no depths." No, John McCain, you know no depths!

Posted by: Honor=Obama | September 12, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

All the "obamatized libs" want to lash out at Palin but so much of what is written on these blogs by obamacons is driving people to McCain.
Palin may not have a lot of experience, but she has accomplishments with what she has done. Obama has no more experiece and his greatest accomplishments are two books about himself!
McCain-Palin '08
Hillary Clinton all the way in 2012!!!

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 12, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Again the Repubs trot out an idiot who they think will sell their voodoo economics and war mongering to an unsuspecting public. What cynicism, "oh she's one of us." The Repubs since Nixon have exploited the prejudice and fears of the same unsuspecting public to enact policies that do not benefit these people, only the well-connected mediocres like the Bush family.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Fan,
You are delusional, very gullible, quite naive and worst or all a traitor.

"Sarah Palin is very smart to invoke Hillary Clinton - she's giving her more credit than Barack Obama ever did! His campaign's treatment of the Clintons was horrendous and unfair.

As a former Clinton supporter, McCain/Palin will be getting my vote."

Posted by: Sarah fan | September 12, 2008 7:05 PM

Posted by: becky | September 12, 2008 9:32 PM

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PERSON ABANDONING THEIR VALUES - SEE ABOVE

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely agree! It was a dumb move and the inexpereince is sowing. Blame Michelle for not getting her on the ticket. 18,000,000 votes? Come on! If you can't heal/ work in your own party how do you expect someone to work across the isle or world?

Posted by: Tom | September 12, 2008 9:35 PM


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Poser - See above

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Which brings us back to the selection of Sarah Palin as the 2008 GOP VP nominee. The selection was quite obviously made with two elements of US society in mind--the socially conservative Christian fundamentalists that serve as the GOP's voting base and the US working class. It is my contention that the latter element is a misnomer. It is not the US working class that the GOP is chasing with Palin's nomination. It is the reactionary element of the white part of that working class.

The pretense by the GOP, the media and others in US society that this element of the working class is "the working class" is not only incorrect, it is (at the least) unconsciously nativist, if not outright racist. After all, the working class is composed of a very large percentage of women, blacks, Latinos and others with non-US national origins. Many, if not most, of this part of the working class do not share Sarah Palin's (and the Christian conservative base she represents) apparent views on the war in Iraq, women's rights, race, and even the ultimate goodness of the US capitalist system. Instead of reminding US voters that Palin is nothing more than a right wing Republican that believes that the Iraq war is a mission from God, which is exactly what George Bush is, the media present her to the US public as a real representative of the working class.

The Democrats seem to share that view. Yet, if they listened to their rank and file, the Democratic leadership would know better. Instead, they share with the media the essentially elitist view that the working class is mostly white and mostly reactionary. Consequently, they look for ways to pander to this element of the US voting public while ignoring the rest of us who work for somebody else to make a living, are not reactionary, and want nothing to do with Sarah Palin and her sidekicks John McCain and the US right wing.
see more
http://counterpunch.org/jacobs09112008.html

Posted by: ron | September 12, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Two years from now we will all be saying Governor who?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Ms Palin's efforts to woo the Clinton supporters is a cynical political ploy, which judging from some of the posters on this blog, may succeed. Some people are just natural contrarians - the more they are criticized and cautioned, the more adamant they become so that no amount of logic or reasoning will penetrate their minds. They must just find their own way.

I think the majority of Clinton voters are intelligent voters who thought long and hard to support her. I also think that these voters supported Clinton, not just because she happened to be a woman, but because they respected her policies, her character, her personality and her grit. I also think many voted for her in the primaries because they thought she could win, and be a great president.

The Clinton supporters will continue to support the person that reflects their values and the policies that are espoused by the party of their chosen candidate. This is not to day that all these people will vote in lock-step, but chances are, they will not deviate from principles and beliefs. They will recognize that, despite disappointments that their chosen candidate did not make it, to abandon principles is not in their make-up. In this particular election, serious voters understand the urgency and the consequences of frivolous behavior. This is no ordinary time for our country.

Posted by: jblee | September 12, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

This woman as a VP is a disaster.

She less of a clue than I do about the world events, and that isn't saying much. He would have been better of hiring a prostitute.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Obviously she crammed for a bad interview with Charles Gibson. She talks the talking points but had no idea what the Bush Doctrine consist of at all. She thinks national security is related to energy and that's about it. She thinks if Israel attacks Iran then we support them no matter what? I think she's a quiz crammer that has no idea what she's talking about. What a terrible pick for VP. I switchedmy preference to Barrack Obama after war hero John McCain made this pick. And by the way Sarah Palin....your no Hillary Clinton...not even close!

Posted by: Dan | September 12, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

"I think"

She has proven again and again that she shouldn't think. It isn't a very good trait of hers. She should stick to shooting defenseless animals and applying makeup. On the latter, she needs a lot of help.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, it already feels like Sarah is a spent force....

The VP debate has the potential to be brutal, but what is really sad is that the McShame campaing may get Sarah to the elections without having held a press conference. A milestone in identity politics.

It's hard to imagine that after this polarizing stunt McCain will have the self respect to ever walk into the Senate again.

For the life of me I have no idea what kind of change the GOP is offering.

Posted by: jfp | September 12, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

"I think"

She has proven again and again that she shouldn't think. It isn't a very good trait of hers. She should stick to shooting defenseless animals and applying makeup. On the latter, she needs a lot of help.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Laugh or fret, whichever you want, depending on whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, but the real reason Palin went home was to try to shut down that investigation about her trying to fire her brother-in-law and sacking the Monegan guy who wouldn't fire him. The legislature backed up the investigation again today . It is not going away, but is still going ahead full force.

Posted by: majorteddy | September 12, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

this is the start of the end of of the american empire.

Posted by: long suffering | September 12, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Idiot said,

Sarah Fan,
You are delusional, very gullible, quite naive and worst or all a traitor.

"Sarah Palin is very smart to invoke

Hillary Clinton - she's giving her more credit than Barack Obama ever did! His campaign's treatment of the Clintons was horrendous and unfair.

As a former Clinton supporter, McCain/Palin will be getting my vote."

Posted by: Sarah fan | September 12, 2008 7:05 PM
*********
What values did you have that agreed with Hillary. They are in complete disagreement with this McScab person.

You are either a McCain supporter or a complete idiot.

If you are voting for this woman because your gal lost then I feel sorry for you.

I see bs posts like this all the time, and I believe you are a complete fraud.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I am voting for president, not vice president, and what I like about John McCain is that he had the guts to choose an outsider like himself as his running mate, where Obama stuck to the predictable, same old candidate as usual in Joe Biden. When you compare true change and experience and ability to lead in a crisis, it's a no brainer to McCain is the only real choice.

Posted by: Jeff, Atlanta GA | September 12, 2008 6:47 PM
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Jeff, how is John McCain an "outsider" when he's been in the Senate more than 25 years? He's the ultimate insider, and he's your candidate. The Republicans have been in power for the last eight years and John McCain has sided with Bush almost every step of the way. What "true change" are you looking for? And when has John McCain ever led in a "crisis" that wasn't of his own making?

Cognitive dissonance: it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: S. | September 12, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more with Sarah Palin on this. As a Hillary voter, I'm confident that she is far better off politically without being on the bottom of the '08 Democratic ticket. But Obama was a complete fool not to have invited her.

HRC fan for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: hj | September 12, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely agree! It was a dumb move and the inexpereince is sowing. Blame Michelle for not getting her on the ticket. 18,000,000 votes? Come on! If you can't heal/ work in your own party how do you expect someone to work across the isle or world?

Posted by: Tom | September 12, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I know we're suppose to walk on egg shells around Sarah Palin.
After all she does eat moose burgers an all.

That being said - Sarah Palin is a joke - and a cynical insult toward the American people.

Posted by: PulSamsara | September 12, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

We will find out the truth about Palin's baby about the same time we find out the truth about Barry's REAL citizenship.....

Posted by: Mike | September 12, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Just wait until the lipstick and the makeup comes off on this condescending hag. You republicans will regret it.

Deer in the headlights - when she was asked about what she felt about the Bush Doctrine. This idiot didn't even know what that was about. Watch the video - she didn't have a clue. The supporters can explain it away as much as they want, or justify it as best as they can, but they know the truth, and are either lying or are stupid.

This is about the future of the country. Wake the heck up!

Enough!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Fan,
You are delusional, very gullible, quite naive and worst or all a traitor.

"Sarah Palin is very smart to invoke Hillary Clinton - she's giving her more credit than Barack Obama ever did! His campaign's treatment of the Clintons was horrendous and unfair.

As a former Clinton supporter, McCain/Palin will be getting my vote."

Posted by: Sarah fan | September 12, 2008 7:05 PM

Posted by: becky | September 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Sung to "Galveston"

hillary, oh hillary
why on earth did I not pick you
shoulda done it-der schlickster said to
now I've lost my big day in the sun
do I HAVE to run?
do I still have to run?

Knowing now I should have had you vetted
Maybe not, I know you have your pride
Now I can't even find joeblow bid'n

hillary, oh hill-a-ry!!! (High Note)
Any way you could change your mind?
I would even,uh,well, never mind
give me a chance, and we'll have victory
oh hillary
oh hillary

Posted by: viejo1 | September 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I see lots of comments about the "media" being out to discredit Gov. Palin. What a crock. Conservatives seems to have a persecution complex. The media needs to scrutinize Gov. Palin, and Senators Obama, Biden, and McCain. That is how we determine how we will vote - finding out where these people stand on issues.

Gov. Palin comes across as an energetic, hard working, down earth person in some respects - and I am sure that is an image she cultivates just like Mr. Bush, the man everyone wanted to have a beer with. The problem how well a person projects an image of "just like us" is that is not necessarily a good criterion for basing a vote.

Furthermore, it also seems Gov. Palin is doing a pretty good job of discrediting herself. From her opening lie at the convention (Thanks but no thanks to the bridge to nowhere), to her snearing, condescending attitude to community organizers or those with college degrees, to her poor performances (in my opinion) in the Gibson interview, she does not come across very well to this voter.

Posted by: birdman | September 12, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Correction
I posted this very early on other sites. Some of the edits are very tight. I dare Gibson and ABC to stream the "raw" footage without burnt in but continuous timecode. Palin knows the questions and answers. There are to many edits. They cut her answers. You cann't cram and not make mistakes. Actually, its a poor editing job because she talks so fast sometimes making the edits abrupt. Most tv journalist will pick this up. The average Joe or Jane blow won't.
.

RICK DAVIS, McCain's man is controlling the press. He throws what I call "flash bang grenades" "He told you the campaign wasn't going to be about issues. What has it been about Oprah and lip stick. And the press just plays along with their behinds up in the air. Can you believe with all the problems in this country that they spent two whole days and on lipstick. Rick controls everything about Palin including who she talks too. ABC network went to bed with him for ratings. What good is a bunch of cut up edited tapes spread out over who knows how long. Charlie Gibson already lost his creditability with the Obama interview, but now he has sold his soul to the devil. He's worst than fox news. Its all about control for Rick Davis the real press will never get a chance to interview Palin. Her first real "live" press conference will not take place for months, win or lose because she's NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME. And if she is NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME, then how can she help lead (or possibly lead) this country? She is the biggest sham the republican party has going but more importantly, she's dangerous for the country. Since there are those in the media afraid to say it, I'll say it for them. The press traveling with Palin can't even ask her questions,but they can record the same stump speech over and over again. The country has her speech but doesn't know who she is because they are kept away from asking her about her views.
LOOK OUT! BANG! Palin Talks Up Clinton on ABC Rick just threw another grenade and the media is off track again! For instance,is Palin's husband subpoenaed in 'Troopergate' probe. The BBC beat the washington post with the headlines and its 9:27PM Let me help you with a clue washpost. Todd is relationed to a certain VP candidate for the US States. That's real news.
By the way Charlie, you sellout, don't forget to thank your sponsor...RICK DAVIS. Next up Fox News as I predicted earlier. (What a suprise)Glen Beck will probably get a shot. But I repeat there will not be any "live" or taped Q and A from legit. press. None.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

You can pretty much sum up the entire rightwing defense of Palin as:

"No matter what she does or doesn't know, no matter what she does or doesn't say, we are programmed to vote for her because she is perfect, and no lib'ruls better criticize her or else they are sexists."

Honestly, the whole rightwing meme that she really showed ol' Charles Gibson with her plaintive request for clarification on the Bush Doctrine is sad, as was her claim that she has foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia, even though she's never been there and never met with Russian leaders.

All she had to do was admit that her foreign policy experience was thin, but that she was eager to learn, or some such. Instead she insulted the intelligence of all rational Americans.

And for that matter, in her acceptance speech, she could have been positive and praised Obama's community service and said that she looked forward to the campaign and proving to the American public that the Republicans have a better plan to get the US out of debt and back to work than the Democrats.

But she didn't, proving that the Republican party isn't the party of change, it's the party of "more of the same."

Posted by: castanea | September 12, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

if I can make any sense out of it, McCain is caught in a lie on The View (no, no she didn't ask for earmarks as governor - but yes she did), and Palin tries to dig him out by saying yes, but it doesn't count unless we try to be sneaky about them? how dumb does she think we are?

the lies are just piling up, and the media is just now starting to call them on the ridiculous ads, like the one that accuses Obama and Biden of attacking Palin, but is a pack of lies, or the one that says Obama favored teaching sex to kindergarten kids, but is a despicable lie, or well, the list just goes on an on and on and . . . . .

Posted by: JoeT | September 12, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton made it impossible for Barack Obama to choose her as V.P. when she aligned herself with John McCain, saying, "John McCain and I have passed the Commander in Chief test, Barack Obama has not." I've never seen a democratic candidate go so low. Also, she kept bashing Obama long after it was mathmatically possible for her to win, even refusing to concede on the night that should have been his to celebrate. Fair or not, the media are obsessed with the Clintons, and it would have been very hard to keep on-message with the constant media obsession around "what are Hillary and Bill doing, saying, etc.?" We saw this at the first three days of the democratic convention, the night of the acceptance speech, etc. Having said that, Hillary is often more appealing in defeat than when on top - she has shown more grace and poise once she finally accepted her loss than Bill initially did and some of her supporters who insist on casting her as the victim despite the great advantages with which she came into the race. Part of me wanted her as VP and part of me thought it would be a bad idea for all the reasons listed above - plus, despite their faux sympathy and regard for Hillary, you know the republican attack machine was fully loaded and awaiting her nomination. It would have been just more fodder for the circus. With Biden, Obama made a governing choice, not a political or exciting choice. He picked the person he thought was a good fit to work side-by-side with him and who added to his ticket.

Posted by: bethechange1 | September 12, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin: SHUT UP!

You are nothing short of a tool being used by the Rovian disciples to bolster that dolt who speech pattern remains constant: noun-verb-P.O.W. The fire under you will get hotter; enjoy the ride!

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | September 12, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I just saw a picture of Sarah Palin posing with a smile next to an animal she killed. What kind of woman finds pleasure in killing a beautiful creature? the only thing worse than a bloodthirsty man is a bloodthirsty woman. The hunting is not enough for her, Iraq is not enough for her so now she's thinking war with Russia!!!! I wonder how she plans to pay for that war.

Posted by: Andrea | September 12, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone counted up the number of falsehoods and misleading statements McCain and Palin have made since accepting the nomination? When does the serial lying become the story. Palin lies about her record, McCain lies about her record and how thoroughly they vetted her, they are both lying about Mr. Obama's positions. Sleazy.

But if you are running against Republican corruption and you are a Republican, it can be hard to stay on mesage.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Gee Dana, you can tell by those pictures that she is or is not pregnant? You must have X-ray vision.

I guess my children aren't mine b/c no one could tell I was pregnant until the last 2 months. That goes for quite a few other women in this world!

Posted by: Ginny | September 12, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I think Palin will regret taking the VP spot when her ticket gets their butt kicked in the general election.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | September 12, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

This whole discussion is a farce. Palin is being extremely disingenuous talking about Obama's own strategies for his vice presidential pick.

Obama was never obligated to choose Hillary Clinton. In 2004, there were 59 million voters who cast their ballots for John Kerry. In the primaries, Obama and Clinton received roughly 18 million voters each. They are to be respected, BUT Obama or any other candidate would never let someone else or outside forces dictate their decisions. There millions and millions more voters out there to court, not even including newly registered voters.

How in the world would Hillary Clinton have represented change? Solely being a woman doesn't represent change, just like being of a different race doesn't define change. Its more than that. Clinton was the ultimate Washington insider and a former First Lady, so why are the Republicans using this talking point message saying that Clinton was shafted and disrespected? Its a sick distortion that completely takes away the merits a candidate might have that was biologically preconditioned. They make it seem as though having a male or female sex organ determines "change" all of a sudden. Ok, if the Republicans love change so much, by their own logic, why were only 7% of their convention delegates non-white?

Give me a break. The Republicans can lecture themselves on their own phony brands of diversity.

You know what? Obama was shafted and disrespected by many Democratic officials who didn't even know why he would challenge the Clintons. It was like a lost cause to the naysayers. Both Clintons mocked and disparaged Obama supporters and skewered Obama's religion, questioning his faith on television. That's something to be expected from Karl Rove, not a Democrat.

We have had caucuses and primaries FOR YEARS, but suddenly when the results weren't ok with some Clinton supporters, the system was "broken".

Most people can see straight through this. Obama is "arrogant" because he had the guts to stand up for his vision of the country, and he didn't bow down to machine politics. Now that the machine is gone for now, some people are resentful. That's to be expected. Some people have come over to Obama. That's also to be expected.

The point is that the Republicans may try to demogogue gender and divide the Democrats, but it is up to Democrats to go out in record numbers and participate in the voting process. This whole victimhood and faux sexism is the reason why so many new voters didn't like politics before, and they are seeing the ugly side of it.

Posted by: Jon | September 12, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bidden admitted that he is not a right pick. This proves that Obama is not only lack of experience, but also made insane judgment. How can we trust him to be our next commander-in-chief.

Posted by: palinfan | September 12, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I dislike false rumors as much as anyone, but can a member of the press please confirm why Sara Palin is not at least 7 months pregnant in this public Governors photo taken with President Bush in February 2008? Her baby was supposedly born on April 18, 2008.

http://www.subnet.nga.org/centennial/2008Meeting.htm from Feb, 2008 (click text link "View Larger Photo")

This photo is from March 14th 2008, where she clearly is not 7 months pregnant:

http://www.daylife.com/photo/0fcQ5EM7gafd9

Finally, she is also on the cover of December issue of Vogue which was taken December 12, 2007. She should have been 4-5 months preganant. Clearly shes not.

Reportedly, her water broke the day before or hours before she gave birth in Texas and flew 8 hour to Alaska in labor? Would a doctor/the airline allow this?

Why did she supposedly announce she was pregnant after 7 months?

There are claims she didn't look pregnant from public video interviews about the annoucement.

Why is there no evidence supporting this?

Something isn't adding up?

Posted by: Dana | September 12, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet Obama regrets not picking Clinton a lot less than McCain regrets not picking a running mate with substance.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: castanea | September 12, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

did it every occur to anyone that, perhaps, obama did not pick clinton because of something other than her qualifications?...of course she is qualified...but in the bigger picture, they simply don't like one another...coupled with her own larger than life persona, her inclination towards secrecy and bill's baggage and lack of disclosure, it is an untenable choice for obama...and, remember, obama won...there are many of his supporters who would not be happy with his choice of clinton...who knows how the wind would have blown?

...and for palin to have this omniscient vision of what obama thinks is laughable...to even consider that she is on par with clinton is insulting. in short, clinton would eat her for breakfast, lunch and dinner. the woman has no presidential substance.

...palin is completely, utterly, dangerously out of her league...that the american people would accept the position of vp as some wacky sort of american idol competition is both frightening and embarrassing...having the mindset that she "passed the test" of her first interview is absolutely insane...is this what we want?...more importantly, what we need?...someone who can fake through it until it's too late for us to reconsider...until it is too late to bother looking at this through the eyes of the country's welfare?

...not only has she shown her ignorance of policy and diplomacy, she has categorically gone against her own running mate...she may very well be likable, charming, the life of the party, but this is no foundation for running the free world...for all those "hockey moms" that are out there praising with empathy that she is "just like me", i ask, "do you really think YOU are qualified to be president?"...because whether we want to acknowledge it or not, that is the point of a vp.

...that people aren't screaming from the rooftops about this is astounding to me...and, if we hand this to mccain, then we deserve every last bit of misery we may receive.

Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | September 12, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

“I think he’s regretting not picking her now, I do,” Ms. Palin says. “Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America,” Mr. Biden said. The basic problem here is that Obama lacks the executive experience; therefore his first big executive decision was a failure. I would say total failure at that. The media is desperate to discredit Gov. Palin, however even facing a stiff Charlie with his commanding voice barreling on her from the high of his anchormanship she is holding her own. It is a real relieve to see a politician’s interview where she speaks her mind openly and is not calculated as opposed to both slick Obama and Biden.

Posted by: Wiel | September 12, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I posted this very early on other sites. Some of the edits are very tight. I dare Gibson and ABC to stream the "raw" footage without burnt in but continuous timecode. Palin knows the questions and answers. There are to many edits. They cut her answers. You cann't cram and not make mistakes. Most tv journalist will pick this up. Actually, its a poor editing job because she talks so fast sometimes making the edits abrupt. The average Joe or Jane blow won't.


RICK DAVIS, McCain's man is controlling the press. He throws what I call "flash bang grenades" "He told you the campaign wasn't going to be about issues. What has it been about Oprah and lip stick. And the press just plays along with their behinds up in the air. Can you believe with all the problems in this country that they spent two whole days and on lipstick. Rick controls everything about Palin including who she talks too. ABC network went to bed with him for ratings. What good is a bunch of cut up edited tapes spread out over who knows how long. Charlie Gibson already lost his creditability with the Obama interview, but now he has sold his soul to the devil. He's worst than fox news. Its all about control for Rick Davis the real press will never get a chance to interview Palin. Her first real "live" press conference will not take place for months, win or lose because she's NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME. And if she is NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME, then how can she help lead (or possibly lead) this country? She is the biggest sham the republican party has going but more importantly, she's dangerous for the country. Since there are those in the media afraid to say it, I'll say it for them. The press traveling with Palin can't even ask her questions,but they can record the same stump speech over and over again. The country has her speech but doesn't know who she is because they are kept away from asking her about her views.
LOOK OUT! BANG! Palin Talks Up Clinton on ABC Rick just threw another grenade and the media is off track again!
By the way Charlie, you sellout, don't forget to thank your sponsor...RICK DAVIS. Next up Fox News as I predicted earlier. (What a suprise)Glen Beck will probably get a shot. But I repeat there will not be any "live" or taped Q and A from legit. press. None.

Posted by: TO MANY EDITS CHARLIE CUTS HER OFF | September 12, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how a woman who writes opinion pieces condemning Palin is allowed to write "objective" stories about her as well.

Kornblut is well beyond biased.

Is the Post's ombudsman on vacation?

Posted by: info | September 12, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that lunch between Bill Clinton and Obama? Don't you know Bill loved watching the Obamessiah grovel and ask for his help? Oh well, he had his chance and now he'll have to give up his rock star status to a new star. It hurts falling off that pedestal!

Posted by: Jen | September 12, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe that Sarah Palin was acting when she made her comments about Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden made the same comment. It is actually almost weird that Obama did not ask Hillary Clinton to be his VP. There is no doubt it was perhaps the biggest political mistake in his life YET. I wonder about his views on gender equity. Female politicians seem to shake him.


But whatever the reasons, they were dumb. It opened the door and in stepped Sarah Palin. At first, democrats laughed and tried to write her off as some right wing nut. But you know the more American voters see her and hear her, they like her and trust her in a way that they don't like and trust Barack Obama. And so she is picking up women who supported Hillary Clinton - the polls have demonstrated it and most of us who live in the real world and talk to real people know that she is making a major difference and McCain was no fool. So if judgment is an issue that his judgment on the matter of VP was far better than Obama's.

Posted by: krutkow75 | September 12, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

After watching Gov Palin for two weeks (and particularly listening to her in the Gibson interview), she is the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. She is totally programmmed. It will only get worse as a function of the time she spends with her handlers.

Posted by: dwrutstein | September 12, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

What a dynamic personality she has and what a dynamic woman Hillary was !!

Remember the media destroyed Hillary and resurrected Obama with Pelosi and other women surrogates !!

Posted by: Shawn | September 12, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Obamafan, if it were not your hillary, Obama would still be on vacation waiting for crowning. Hillary is going to pay for it if Obama loses this one.

Posted by: suckitup | September 12, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Hillary needed to be free of Bill's political baggage. She needed a way to run as herself, not Bill's wife. Palin makes that possible. In 2012, you are looking at a race between Palin and Clinton, BUT ONLY IF OBAMA LOSES IN 2008. If he wins, Hillary can retire from the Senate whenever she feels like it, but that's as far as she goes. Don't think for a minute that Hillary is not enjoying Obama's predicament and positioning herself as the only viable option in 2012. That process began when she ran her campaign to the end, beyond any real hope of winning. Hillary actually NEEDS Palin to do well, because that is the only matchup where the Democrats are FORCED to nominate her. If Palin is not a candidate in 2012, Hillary will not be there either.

Posted by: DC | September 12, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is yet to tell us more, just watch this space! She is now running on another card, the "Hillary card", that Obama is regretting not choosing Hillary, even when it is an open secret Hillary is gonna be part of Obama's cabinet. If Sarah Palin were to believe in what she is telling us, she would have declined the VP offer and instead suggested to McCain to pick Hillary as VP, else she is telling us she is more qualified for VP than Hillary! She said she did not think twice about accepting the VP offer – not even think of Hillary! Typical of old GOP tactics, playing the emotional and psychological card to have Hillary's supporters on her side! If Hillary were VP candidate, would have Sarah turned Democrat and supported Obama/Hillary instead of McCain? Whe will politicians begin to take the American people seriously? To have our votes and put our lives and those of our friends, relatives and indeed the entire world on the line out of emotional, kindergarten games? You mean American women whom you are targeting can’t read between the lines! Stop kidding us, Sarah!

Posted by: Parker | September 12, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

No, it's too late. I am going to vot for Palin who has better resume.. "
Posted by: Obamafan

Uh, you're NO Obamafan. You're another right-wing troll.

Yes, of course Palin says that about Clinton, because she and McCain would have loved nothing more than to run against her.

Posted by: vegasgirl | September 12, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Just accept the fact. Obama has very, very, very, very poor judgement. He has poor judgement in thinking he can win without Hillary (he hates her, but if he has good judgement, he still would have picked Hillary for his own good). He did not pick Hillary not only demonstrating His narrow pity-mindedness, but also his poor judgement.

No, it's too late. I am going to vot for Palin who has better resume. Obama, community service that's all he has to run for president, give me a break. I did tons of community service and don think I qualifying to be the manager of city.

Posted by: Obamafan | September 12, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder that all Palin can do is try to gin up woman voters, especially Hillary supporters even though Hillary is oppsed to everything Palin stands for? She had to drop this pandering from her speech because she was getting boo'd by republican audiences. She will say anything, do anything to keep from talking about this.........

Gov. Palin:

Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She fully supported it and only denounced it after the funding was cut anyhow) and continues to do so as many as four times a day on the campaign stump. She never returned the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere.

A 2006 question to Governor Palin …”Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?”
Answer: “Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using Jack Abramoff lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)

Charged 52 earmarks valued at $256 million in her first year as Alaska Governor and 31 earmarks valued at $197 million this year. Considerably HIGHER than Barrack Obama’s Earmark list he released in March of 2008 in the spirit of transparency. This includes $3.2 million for researching the genetics of harbor seals. Umm Ok pork buster indeed.

Billed taxpayers in Alaska $43,490 for staying in her own home.

Touts the need to address special needs children but only did so by stepping in at the last minute to support a bill that she was chided for NOT supporting previously despite her sister having a child with autism.

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year! She was also the keynote speaker for AIP on several occasions and her husband was an ardent supporter and member of AIP.

The AIP founder Joe Voglar once stated, “I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." and "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”Is a task from God.”

8/28/08 Gov. Palin LIED on to Newsweek Mag. that she "sued big oil." Truth is - Alaska sued big oil in 2005 - Palin was not governor in 2005 nor was she even running for that office in 2005.

Gov. Palin sued to get Polar bears OFF the endangered species list.

In July when interviewed about the possibility of being the VP she stated that she did not know what the VP did.
Subsequently has been sequestered and hidden from the media until an appropriate time in which she has been provided with the answers to any potential questions the press may have with under two months left in till the election. Why not let her speak RIGHT NOW? Perhaps because she doesn’t know what to say or worse still she does know what to say and we will not like it.

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

When Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the city billed sexual assault victims and their insurance companies for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

When you actually look at the policies on paper do you see much difference between Palin and Bush? I mean becides the lipstick.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 12, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I really dis-like hypotheticals, like what if? That Hillary Clinton would have helped Obama win is a big question, never to be known. That women will vote for Palin instead (the implication) we will know. As a women, I think she is an embarassment to all women who have dedicated themselves to public service. Yes, everyday women can identify with her, the hocky-mom, on the PTA. Hunters identifiy with her. But, these are not the material for building the knowledge and wisdom we need in a president. These traits are someone we would vote for, well, for the PTA.

Obama picked the best person to help him be president. I applaud his choice. Biden brings a depth of experience in government and international politics. He will speak his own opinion to Obama, which is how Obama wants to govern. Obama will not fire people who disagree with him. That gives Obama a good base for understanding the issue in front of him to make the best decision in addressing it.

Biden was an excellent choice.

Posted by: Kiku | September 12, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

America is a sad country. No longer a world leader. No principals. Just greed and hatred. There is so much corruption. The best thing you can do is withdrawal from international diplomacy PERIOD until you get some sense of decency.

You also need campaign reform in order to vet communication. You said/she said. You campaign are no better that a 3rd grade girly fight.

You are NO LONGER the example of the world! Stay home and fix you country which is able to destroy every other economy.

Posted by: Foreigner | September 12, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

America is a sad country. No longer a world leader. No principals. Just greed and hatred. There is so much corruption. The best thing you can do is withdrawal from international diplomacy PERIOD until you get some sense of decency.

You also need campaign reform in order to vet communication. You said/she said. You campaign are no better that a 3rd grade girly fight.

You are NO LONGER the example of the world! Stay home and fix you country which is able to destroy every other economy.

Posted by: Foreigner | September 12, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I know McCain and Palin are just trying to get some cheap votes, and they are transparent as hell, but I have to say, at least they are saying some thing nice about HRC, even if they are patently insincere.

That is more than can be said about NObama who used every race and sex card to drown her out, his groupie gutter rats who insulted HRC every which way they could, and NOb's prostitute media pals who even to this day keep dragging HRC thru the mud, even as she is going around the country campaigning for the NOb (read any column by the prostitute Mo Dowd, if you don't believe me).

So, yes, it is nice to get some compliments from McCain and Palin, even if they don't mean them.

Posted by: intcamd1 | September 12, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

The following was posted by: Sarah fan | September 12, 2008 7:05 PM "Sarah Palin is very smart to invoke Hillary Clinton - she's giving her more credit than Barack Obama ever did! His campaign's treatment of the Clintons was horrendous and unfair.

As a former Clinton supporter, McCain/Palin will be getting my vote."

Well Sara fan, I know former Hillary supporters and what they would say about Palin. You are no former Hillary supporter. You are a Repuglican troll.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 12, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I see that Palin is indeed the light weight. She is incredibly presumptuous and unscrupulous about Hillary. Much as she is with everything else.

And, I do not think anyone that is right thinking and understands Hillary's situation would think Obama better off with her (and Bill) on the ticket. That is absurd. First off, she and Bill have way too much baggage. Imagine the fodder for the McCain ads from all that.

And, more important, Hillary drove her bus through the Democratic Party. Like McCain now, she then was trying to run the bus right over him. Now, she has realized her mistake and she has made amends. In due course, McCain will realize his. Palin, will be an earmark along the way.

Hillary will be playing a major role in the election campaign in her own inimitable way. She will make it clear where she stands with respect to Palin's views. And, I expect she will have a strong and prominent role in both terms of an Obama administration. A role that will continue to shatter that glass ceiling.

I think that Palin needs to understand that their is more to being VP than being a woman.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 12, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Anne Kilkenny acts and pretends like she's Sara Palin's friend. If you look into Anne Kilkenny you'll find out that she's a registered Democrat heavily involved in her liberal side of the party, and Sara turned her advances down. The liberals will take this letter and run it as facts. A guy name Bob blogged that Sara Palin believes that dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago, and that they were destroyed because they were created by the devil. Matt Damon ran with this blog and the New York Times. Sara Palin will be president in 2016 after MCain/ Palin right our ship for 8 years.

Posted by: Drizzit | September 12, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"I believe that when Hilary & Barack spoke about a week after he won that he did offer her the VP and she turned it down..."
HRC publically said she doesn't mind to be VP for Obama, and earlier in the campaign she also said She would welcome Obama to be VP ticket should she win the nomination. Obama is not big enough to be inclusive. Obama minded too much about how his ego got hurt by Hillary's blunt stating of his lack of experience. He doesn't have the kind of quality a great nation deserves. Now his supporter tried to make things up inspite of the facts, how funny.

Posted by: independent heart | September 12, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is very smart to invoke Hillary Clinton - she's giving her more credit than Barack Obama ever did! His campaign's treatment of the Clintons was horrendous and unfair.

As a former Clinton supporter, McCain/Palin will be getting my vote.

Posted by: Sarah fan | September 12, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ms Palin,
Stop using my name in vain and please...
GET OFF MY COAT TAILS!!!
Hillary

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Go sign up @ democrats against Obama.com You can give a voice to your feelings over Obama making it sound like Hillary was racist. Obama will do anything to gain votes. When he was up in the polls he acted cordial, and now he's being divisive, rude, and evil. Obama has never worked with someone from the opposite aisle to get legislation passed. He will give credence to the vicious wing of the Democratic party. He's covert and overt in his underhanded political character assassination.

Vote MCain to end the evil rancor.

Posted by: Drizzit | September 12, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Palin is dead right -- Barack Obama is going to regret not offering Hillary the VP spot. He could have locked up the presidency, but instead he chose Biden - a nice but safe, boring representation of politics as usual. This just underscores Obama's arrogance and lack of experience. McCain wasn't afraid to take an unpopular stand on Iraq when it was unpopular but necessary. Now we are winning. That, is a true leader.

Posted by: Jim - Lansing Michigan | September 12, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Maria, how could Obama offer Clinton the VP slot when his campaign acknowledged that she wasn't even on the list of potential candidates to be vetted? He wanted no part of Hillary Clinton (except for her 18 million votes). He was afraid his presidency would be overshadowed by her popularity. Now he has to fear there won't even be a presidency for him.

Posted by: Bob Simmons | September 12, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Did you see Gov. Palin's interview with "Charlie" on ABC just now? Wow, That Ball is still flying. I think she ripped the cover off of it!

Posted by: Scott | September 12, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Is there anyone else out there that thinks the same way I do concerning Clinton not being on the ticket? I believe that when Hilary & Barack spoke about a week after he won that he did offer her the VP and she turned it down.Hilary wants nothing less than the presidency and will run in 2012.I also think that she has been offered a high position in Obama's administration.I'm a very informed 55 year old woman and I will not fall for Palin's smoke screen.

Posted by: Maria Kirchner | September 12, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama couldn't win my state in the democratic primary and he certainly isn't going to win it in November. Why the media is so in love with this guy is mystifying. Now that the excitement about him is gone, there's nothing left but a political opportunist who has never done anything except promote his career.

Posted by: Marcy -- Dayton, OH | September 12, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I am voting for president, not vice president, and what I like about John McCain is that he had the guts to choose an outsider like himself as his running mate, where Obama stuck to the predictable, same old candidate as usual in Joe Biden. When you compare true change and experience and ability to lead in a crisis, it's a no brainer to McCain is the only real choice.

Posted by: Jeff, Atlanta GA | September 12, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I was a hardcore Hillary Clinton supporter and I'm voting for McCain/Palin. When will the media get that it is about the candidate, not just their views on a couple of issues. Obama is an arrogant, follow-the-old-guard, opportunist. When it comes to "change," he only talked the talk, it was McCain who walked the walk. McCain in '08! Hillary in '12!

Posted by: Al in Florida | September 12, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

What follows is an open letter written by a resident of Wasilla, Alaska named Anne Kilkenny.

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.
She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe".
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months. She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby. She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit. Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans. Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters. She's smart.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents. During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative". During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn't even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later-to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once. These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city. As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's surplus, borrow for needs.
She's not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren't generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren't evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the "old boy's club" when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal-loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State's top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla's Police Chief because he "intimidated" her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex- husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn't like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job.
In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the "old boys' club" when she dramatically quit, exposing this man's ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork- barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the "bridge to nowhere" after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects-which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance-but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as "anti-pork".
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self- description as a fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as "AGIA" that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned "as a private citizen" against a state initiative that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State's lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior's decision to list polar bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President. There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she. However, there's a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.

CLAIM VS FACT

*"Hockey mom": true for a few years
*"PTA mom": true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
*"NRA supporter": absolutely true
*social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconstitutional).
*pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
*"Pro-life": mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro- life legislation
*"Experienced": Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
*political maverick: not at all
*gutsy: absolutely!
*open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
*has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
*"a Greenie": no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
*fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
*pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
*pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
*pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla's history.
*pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

WHY AM I WRITING THIS?

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you Google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that's life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah's attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

CAVEATS

I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall-they are swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000Åç, up to 9,000. The day Palin's selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90's.
Anne Kilkenny
annekilkenny@hotmail.com
August 31, 2008

Posted by: jclaraw | September 12, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

If it were not for President Bill Clinton and some very stupid helpers,
Hillary lost, but remember, just four years and she is president of the USA. Give the Demercrats a chanse, please.
No Horros in Alaska?? Bless you all.

Posted by: justadad55+ | September 12, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent, I liked Obama and was planning to vote for him. But I can't stand the shameless liberal blogoshere that serve as his attack-dog surrogates. These guys are the equivalent of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter (whom I equally can't stand). Yet, the reputable mainstream media (ABC, CNN, CBS) often rely on them for scoops because they prove to be very efficient at digging for information and disseminating it when they are not being political.

I love free speech and our right to exercise it. But I hope the mainstream media can hold itself ABOVE the leftist pandering and remember to check for sources. Blog sites might be replacing traditional news organizations because they report things with an obvious slant for an audience that just wants to hear something they agree with. But I would pay for REAL journalism that holds itself to better standards for truth.

I've seen the Youtube video where Mrs. Palin is supposed to have called Mrs. Clinton a whiner. If you watch it without bias, you'll note Palin is giving her interpretation of feminism with "due respect to Mrs. Clinton". Palin challenges the notion that playing the victim card is productive for a woman's cause.

Posted by: Jay | September 12, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Alaska loves Sarah for the great work she has done reforming government to work for the citizens and America is falling in love with Sarah for her genuine sincerity, honesty and brilliant mind.

It is time to recognize that women can do a great job, many times better than men and Sarah Palin's record shows she is exceptional.

The Obama campaign and the liberal media is in disarray, confused and foaming at the mouth after the Maverick, John McCain chose Sarah Palin, a woman reformer for VP. Their response has been a vicious attack on Sarah ranging from insults to smearing and the sexist tactics that brought Hillary's campaign crashing down.

Obama fractured and divided the democratic party when he rejected the choice of 18 million democrats and instead of choosing Hillary for VP, he chose an old Washington politician Joe Biden, and by this grave mistake in choice, negated the flag of "change" Obama had been waiving and replaced it with the "more of the same" one.

On the other side, The Maverick stole the mantra of change from Barack when he selected a woman reformer for VP, who has gained the respect of the State she governs as well as of the nation governors.

The McCain/Palin ticket has also given hope to all the 18 million former Hillary supporters who now have a very compelling reason to vote for the republican ticket, as a way to put their country first by electing a president that has the qualifications, experience and love for our country and at the same time elect a woman to the White House as equal partners in governance and leadership of our country.

Country First!
McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Manolete | September 12, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Two High-Ranking McCain Campaign Officials Lobbied For Companies At Center of Sex-For-Oil Scandal
By Greg Sargent and Eric Kleefeld - September 12, 2008, 4:47PM
Here's something that could complicate the McCain-Palin reform message a bit: It turns out that McCain's national finance co-chair, Wayne Berman, is a paid lobbyist, and has been one for years, for two of the oil companies that are at the center of the sex, drugs and oil scandal enveloping the Interior Department.

One of McCain's high-ranking campaign officials also lobbied for the companies for years -- during time periods when the scandal has unfolded -- up until he joined the McCain campaign in the spring.

The lobbyists themselves aren't tied to the scandal in any way, and their activity on the companies' behalf doesn't implicate McCain, either. But it's legit to ask why it is that a campaign that proclaims that it's about reform is taking advice and/or money from lobbyists who were getting paid by companies involved in the scandal, one of whom is still collecting money from them.

Berman, who's McCain's national finance co-chair and one of the Arizona Senator's leading bundlers, is a lobbyist with Ogilvy Government Relations, which has been paid millions of dollars for lobbying by the Chevron and Hess corporations, according to disclosure forms. The second official, John Green, who is McCain's chief liaison to Congress, also was with Ogilvy and worked on those same contracts until joining the campaign.

Chevron and Hess are involved in what is arguably the most sordid scandal in Washington right now.
The short version is as follows: Employees at a number of leading energy companies allegedly gave improper gifts -- including sports tickets, ski trips, illegal drugs and even sexual relations -- to federal officials in charge of a program that oversees a program by which the companies can pay for use of public lands with free energy instead of cash, saving them money.

The office of the Interior Department's inspector General launched a probe in 2006, and this week, it released a report finding that energy company officials serially and flagrantly violated gift rules and went so far as to give drugs and sex to government officials, and the government officials in turn gave contracts to favored companies.

According to Senate lobbying disclosure forms, Ogilvy -- represented by Berman and Green -- lobbied for Chevron and Hess from 2005 to the present, and was paid a total of $2.36 million by the companies. They had enlisted Ogilvy's help in order to influence Congress on such issues as comprehensive energy reform, energy price-gouging, and other issues related to liquefied natural gas.

Both Berman and Green lobbied for the companies for about three years, continuing when the scandals were already public knowledge, and Beman is still lobbying for them. It's legit to ask why Berman wouldn't have cut ties with the companies at a time when he's working for McCain, even merely for appearances' sake.

"You have to wonder why Berman and Green would continue to lobby for oil companies that conduct business with the government in this sordid and sleazy manner," says David Donnelly of the nonpartisan Campaign Money Watch. "Relying on lobbyists like these certainly puts a little more tarnish on McCain's so-called reformer image."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Re McCain and crazy intern....

And apparently you seem to have an uneducated, boorish grasp on things....but oh I forgot, that a pre-requisite for membership in the party of Donkey.s

P.S. Post convention bounce is now on top!

Posted by: Mike in Dallas | September 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

"$3.2 billion for researching the genetics of harbor seals" 3.2 with a "B" That can't be right.

Posted by: Shannone | September 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see all the Wingnuts on here today crowing about their small post convention bounce. It won't last, Palin is a crazy right wing religious fundamentalist with a whole lot of corruption thrown in for extra spice and McCain is a senile old warmonger.


McSame and the Crazy Intern - 08:

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NOPE!

Posted by: AsperChick | September 12, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

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