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Palin's Pay Cut as Mayor Followed by a Raise

By Juliet Eilperin
On the campaign trail, GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin has declared at least four times that she cut her own pay as Alaska's governor.

"And, you know, as mayor and as governor, I tried to lead by example," she told the crowd at a Sept. 9 rally in Lebanon, Ohio. "So as mayor, I took a voluntary pay cut, which didn't really thrill my husband."

But just-released records from the Wasilla clerk's office show a slightly more complicated picture. Palin's pay did drop from $64,200 in October 1996 to $61,200 in January 1997, but in June 1998 it jumped to $68,000. Palin's pay did dip once more in July 1999 to $66,000, according to the records, but it jumped back to $68,000 three months later, and it stayed at that level until Palin left office in October of 2002.

Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella did not have an immediate explanation for the ultimate pay boost Palin experienced as mayor.

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 19, 2008; 6:12 PM ET
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Actually, have we seen Cheney and Palin in the same place at the same time. I didn't believe it about Guiliani being a drag queen until I saw photos.

Lets face it, Cheney can NOT be happy about leaving the seat of power. He's also burned WAY too many bridges to run for Prez...thus...hang with me for a few...Palin just might really be Cheney in drag. Now go ahead and tell me you have not wondered! They are WAY too much alike under the makeup and dressings.

Posted by: Donny | September 20, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse


ANOTHER LIE from palin???

LOL

she must not think too much of the american people to REPEATEDLY keep telling us these lies...

george bush LIES to us all the time.. and i'm DAMN TIRED OF IT...

screw sarah palin.

let her go back to HICKSVILLE!

Posted by: BOB | September 20, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Question.
Has Palins tax forms been available to the American public since she took office?

Posted by: justada55+ | September 20, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

More half-truths from Palin. She'll fit right in in Washington.

Posted by: HarrisCo | September 20, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

she sounds more like dick cheney everyday.

Posted by: Iowa grant | September 20, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008.
Posted by: Julie | September 20, 2008 10:43 AM "

No! I call that a f**kin traitor and a stab in the back. Just convert your sorry butt to the GOP party and LIVE with them! You are an idiot and a betrayl to your existence. I hope you don't work in any classified area, because you should not be trusted and you wouldn't qualify for a clearance! Not sure why you even write Democrat... cause you aren't a Democrat. Thomas Jefferson created the Democratic party to get away from evil traitors like you! Plus there should be an IQ test to be in the party. You would fail dearly!

Posted by: Ed | September 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

*** UPDATED- HOW THE PALIN HACKER DID IT ***

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

When you 'almost' lie enough, you begin to believe that it's true.

Our hero, Ron Reagan, is a classic example of that.

Boy, I miss him, he B.S.'d us so much more professionally.

Posted by: Karl's Protege | September 20, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

JakeD I have a Bridge to Nowhere I'd like to sell you, but it looks as if you already bought it.

Posted by: Karl's Protege | September 20, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Republicans for OBAMA-BIDEN!

Posted by: maria | September 20, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I so wanna do Mrs. palin in the back seat of my pickup...with the glasses on of course.

Rednecks for Palin/McCain '08

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy with "not technically lying". Thanks.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I think she is fully ready to be in washington under the GOP rule. She lies, manipulates, distorts, lies some more, and when all else fails she simply refuses to talk about it. If McCain/Palin wins come November it will be the biggest blow to America's legitimacy of being considered a true "super power" and world leader.

Posted by: Ryan | September 20, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I am sure she was lowering and raising her salary depending on what the market could bear. But three of the salary changes were ultimately higher than the original she is making the claim about. While she is not technically lying, she is attempting to mislead us with a partial truth.

You can glue wings on a pig, but that just looks silly.

Posted by: coyote | September 20, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

TommyF

I don't hate Palin, or McCain. I just think Palin was a bad pick to pander to the women voters and far right conservatives that was more or less forced on McCain.

I might have even considered voting for McCain previous to his hard turn to the right about the same time as the convention. A lot of republicans were not happy with McCain winning the nomination until he was paired with the very conservative Palin.

The problem with being a dem or rep running for president is you end up having to appeal to the full range of people in your party, we have seen this on both sides.

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Why do you put this under such an equanimical headline? SHouldn't the word be 'Raises"?
Why won't you just state that Palin lies or exaggerates her story. Isn't that the point?

THe endless liying and hypocrisy form the republican side of this race?

Posted by: M. Tobias | September 20, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

This is reporting? She started out $64,000 and 6 years later ended with $68.000. And who is calling this a ripoff? And where is the lie? She said she took a pay cut. She took TWO. She LIED- she took TWO pay cuts, not ONE. O my GAWD!

Thank God for Sarah Palin.

This anti-conservative hatred is so bad that not only Bush, but McCain (McCain!!), and an unknown like Palin, and any conservative poster are all the same. THIS is liberalism. THIS is the future. If Obama doesn't get elected, expect the venom to get worse, although it's hard to see how unless anarchy and Nazi tactics start taking hold. If McCain wins, I expect to see liberals taking to the airwaves and streets like the fascists they are.

Posted by: TommyF | September 20, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

did anyone see olberman write a 3600 dollar chek last night? He said he'd give $100 for each palin lie to the Alaska Special Olympics on Sept. 10. Since then her lies amounted to $3600, amazing.

Posted by: BigB | September 20, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Plankton |ˈsa ˈrah ˈpla ng ktən|

Noun
A small and microscopic organism drifting or floating in the political scene, consisting chiefly of radical religious beliefs, misguided personal opinions, member of the NRA, new darling of the radical neo-con right (fascists), believes in book burning, and gorging herself on the carcasses of her perceived political rivals.

Posted by: Cario | September 20, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Do we really want to go into the election with this still hanging around?

I don't know if Palin did anything wrong or not, but I know I would rather find out before the election and clear the air.


"After waiting half an hour to see if any witnesses would show up, French, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, said legislative investigator Steve Branchflower will proceed with his investigation and will finish his report as scheduled on Oct. 10.

He listed three witnesses who had complied with the committee's subpoenas, and said seven others -- all state employees in the Palin administration -- had not yet been served but soon will be because they failed to appear voluntarily to testify Friday.

Three others -- Todd Palin, the governor's deputy chief of staff, Randy Ruaro, and aide Ivy Frye -- will be referred to the full Senate for contempt for failing to comply with their subpoenas, French said."

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/531785.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I will say one thing Palin seems ready for Washington politics on day 1.

The Dallas Morning News goes on...

"An examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics – she sometimes calls local opponents "haters" – often contrasts with her public image.

Throughout her career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.

Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-palin_14pol.ART.State.Edition1.26e9372.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Troopergate saga continues, can you say impartial? (part 1)

"Sarah Palin initially welcomed the investigation of accusations that she dismissed the state's public safety commissioner because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper. "Hold me accountable," she said.

But she has increasingly opposed it since Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her as his running mate. The McCain campaign dispatched a legal team to Alaska including O'Callaghan, a former top U.S. terrorism prosecutor from New York to bolster Palin's local lawyer.

McCain-Palin presidential campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan announced today that Todd Palin would not appear, because he no longer believes the Legislature's investigation is legitimate.

Sen. Bill Wielechowski, D-Anchorage, said the McCain campaign is doing all it can to prevent the Legislature from completing a report on whether the GOP's vice presidential nominee abused her power as governor."

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/530493.html

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Troopergat Part 1.5

"Campaign spokesmen said Thursday that while the governor is resisting the legislative investigation, she is cooperating with a separate inquiry the state Personnel Board is conducting.
The board, and not the Legislature, is the proper authority to look into Monegan's dismissal, they said."
http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/530885.html


"But Palin's state-hired attorney Thomas Van Flein said the matter should be taken up by the state's personnel board. Van Flein and Palin have asked the three members to resolve the dispute over the firing.

The board's members are appointed by the governor. One of the three, Debra English, was re-appointed by Palin in January. The other two members - Laura Plenert and Alfred Tamagni, Sr - have served since 2004 and 2006, respectively."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/06/politics/main4422385.shtml


"Tamgani donated $400 to Palin for her 2006 race for Governor."
http://www.followthemoney.org/database/StateGlance/contributor.phtml?d=524413232

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Troopergate saga continues, can you say impartial? (part 2)

So her self appointed board, with at least one contributore to her past campaign is impartial?

I wonder what if any relationship the board members have to Palin as Palin is known for appointing her frineds to government positions.


"So when there was a vacancy at the state Agriculture Department, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.

Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five high school classmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages."
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/DN-palin_14pol.ART.State.Edition1.26e9372.html


Also it looks like at least one board member shares Palin's depth of experience.


"PLENERT, LAURA
Food & Beverage, MCDONALDS OF KETCHIKAN, RESTAURANT MANAGER, MCDONALDS, AK, 2002 1 $500"

http://www.followthemoney.org/database/search.phtml?searchbox=Laura+Plenert

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Palin will lie, cheat, distroy people, operates in secrecy and say anything to get elected, but must not be to smart because palin keeps getting caught.

Posted by: ok4u | September 20, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what they call it in Alaska, but in the lower 48, they call it lying.

Posted by: clgrafton24 | September 20, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans"

""People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Weinstein said.

Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was not immediately available to comment.

National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of transportation money to be used at its own discretion."

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN3125537020080901

Posted by: nowanna1 | September 20, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Hopeful1:

Did you defend Bill Clinton?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The "complete" truth? The way you liberals nitpick her, there's not enough time in a day to please you. Why isn't it enough for you guys to fill in any alleged gaps? She hasn't "lied" about anything. Unless you think that Obama lied about promising to "aggressively pursue an agreement on pubic financing"?

What I really want to know is why Oprah thinks Gwyneth Paltrow, Mario Batali, Celine Dion, and Ty Pennington are more important at this moment in our nation's history than Sarah Palin?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008.

Posted by: Julie | September 20, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

City council had to approve the mayor salary....they must have thought she was doing a great job when she had the two increases. Also, it shows she was mindful of the budget when she decreased it twice.

I wish our government would do the same. Of course we have no say, but people of small towns do.

Also, Obama lied about his contributions from Rezko....by 90 pct....oops.
He has also received 9 pct increase in his salary since 2005....for 143 days of work.


Posted by: concerned08 | September 20, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Its not that she lies...

She did put the plane on ebay, that's true she just didn't tell us that she didn't actually sell the plane on ebay. She did say thanks, but no thanks to the bridge, that's true, she just didn't tell us that it was after the congress said you know that bridge you wanted well you'll have to pay for it yourself. So now she gave herself a pay cut, probably true...she just didn't tell us that she gave herself a pay increase after the cut.

This type of technical truth telling is an insult to Americans. We deserve better.

Posted by: Hopeful1 | September 20, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD
Amazed:
What is your definition of "lie"?
_______________________
As it relates to politicians, it's when they don't tell the complete truth. I call it lying when they intentionally leave out all of the facts to deceive their audience. It's the opposite of transparency. It's what Bush/Rove have been doing for the past 8 years and I am sick of it. Present all of the facts, not just one liners meant to deceive.

Posted by: Amazed | September 20, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: NickinVA
So what? She did take a paycut when she took office? Do you expect her to serve 8 years at the same pay?
______________________
No Nick, I expect her to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She keeps throwing out these distortions purposely to fool idiots. I put the plane on Ebay... and I lost 600K on the deal because I did not sell it on Ebay. Get it! It's called transparency. If you lack the intelligence to surmise that Palin is purposely not telling the whole story/truth in order to distort her "achievements" than that is your problem. Those of us with 3 digit IQs know when we're being bamboozled. You apparently enjoy that in your leaders. You must still be looking for those WMDs in Iraq.

Posted by: Cheryl, Chevy Chase MD | September 20, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Amazed:

What is your definition of "lie"?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I am so sick of the lies. I am past calling her lies "distortions." The woman is a complete liar. She is a Bush/Rove disciple. The amazing thing is that after the Bush years people are still looking for someone who is "like them" to be president. Are these people all minions with no critical thinking skills? How about a president that has demonstrated the ability think critically? How about a president who is smarter than the average Joe, is that such a bad thing?

Posted by: Amazed | September 20, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

What is the alleged "lie" about Iran?

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Charles Rangel, the Disgraced House Ways and Means Committee Chairman, who occupies 3 rent controlled apartments in Harlem, illegally using one for an office thereby adding to the severe shortage of affordable housing in NYC, recently did an interview in which he referred to Sarah Palin, saying "We have to be kind to the disabled". He went on to qualify his comment as a remark on her lack, as mayor and governor, of foreign policy experience.

The phrase is ironic, as Rangel, like the candidate he supports, Barack Obama, has an ethical disability which should be his downfall.


From The TimesFebruary 26, 2008

Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama
(Charles Rex Arbogast/Pool/EPA)
Barack Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a mistake

James Bone in New York and Dominic Kennedy in London
Barack and the billionaire

A British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses.

The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

Three weeks later, Mr Obama bought a house on the city's South Side while Mr Rezko's wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15.

Mr Obama says he never used Mrs Rezko's still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.

Mrs Rezko, whose husband was widely known to be under investigation at the time, went on to sell a 10-foot strip of her property to Mr Obama seven months later so he could enjoy a bigger garden.

Mr Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a “boneheaded mistake”.

Mrs Rezko’s purchase and sale of the land to Mr Obama raises many unanswered questions.

It is unclear how Mrs Rezko could have afforded the downpayment of $125,000 and a $500,000 mortgage for the original $625,000 purchase of the garden plot at 5050 South Greenwood Ave.

In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."

Mrs Rezko, whose husband goes on trial on unrelated corruption charges in Chicago on March 3, refused to answer questions about the case when she spoke by telephone to The Times.


Posted by: Scott | September 20, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

rcc-2000:

She did not "lie" about pay cut or anything else. It is not "pathetic" to point that out.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The Atlantic
September 18, 2008
An economist explains why he thinks McCain's economic policies make more sense
by Steven Landsburg

(Steven E. Landsburg (born 1954) is an American professor of economics at the University of Rochester in Rochester, New York. From 1989 to 1995, he taught at Colorado State University.)


Betting on John McCain

My whole life I've been mystified by the concept of the "undecided voter." I've never had any problem choosing my candidates and didn't see how anyone else could either. But this year, I've been genuinely on the fence, partly because I haven't been paying close attention, and partly because there seemed ample reason to dislike all of the options.
But over the past few days, as McCain and Obama have ratcheted up their rhetoric over each others' "disastrous" economic policies, I decided to do a little research. Along the way, I had a few surprises about John McCain's voting record, some but not all of them pleasant. Now I don't think I'm undecided anymore.
Here are some of the things that made my decision easy, and some that made it hard:
1. Free trade and immigration are my top issues, and McCain wins on both.
These are my top issues for several reasons. First, trade is the engine of prosperity not just for the United States but also for the poorest of the world's poor. Nothing matters more than that. Second, the instinct to care about the national origin of your trading partner (or employer, or employee, or landlord, or tenant) is an ugly one, and the instinct to care about the national origin of other people's trading partners—and on that basis to interfere forcibly with other people's voluntary transactions—is even uglier.
Finally, protectionism, like creationism, requires an extraordinary level of willful ignorance. The consensus for free trade among economists is approximately as solid as the consensus for evolution among biologists, and it is a consensus supported by a solid body of both theory and observation. To ignore that consensus betrays a degree of anti-intellectualism that frightens me.
McCain is quite good on this issue, not just in terms of rhetoric (which I've known for a while) but in terms of voting record (which I've just recently researched). Obama, by contrast, promises to be our first explicitly protectionist president since Herbert Hoover. Some intervening presidents (Reagan, Bush I, and to a lesser extent Bush II) have been weak in their commitments to free trade, but none between Hoover and Obama has so explicitly rejected it.
2. McCain is not Bush. This came as a surprise to me. I'd been assuming, in my ill-read, uneducated way, that McCain had been complicit in most of the great travesties of the Bush administration and the execrable Republican Senate. I've learned that's largely untrue. He voted (to my great surprise!) against the prescription drug entitlement, against the Farm Security Bill, against milk subsidies, against Amtrak subsidies, and against highway subsidies.
Obama, by contrast, is in many ways a continuation of Bush. Like Bush (only far more so ), Obama is fine with tariffs and subsidies. Like Bush, he wants to send jackbooted thugs into every meatpacking plant in America to rid the American workplace of anyone who happens to have been born on the wrong side of an imaginary line. Like Bush, he wants a more progressive tax code. (It is one of the great myths of 21st century that the Bush tax cuts made the tax code less progressive; the opposite is true. If you are in the bottom 38% of taxpayers, you now pay zero income tax—and therefore have an incentive to support any spending bill that comes down the pike.) Like Bush, he wants more regulation, not less.

3. But there's a lot about economics that McCain just doesn't get. This shows up most significantly in his energy policies. Every economist knows that the best way to discourage carbon emissions (or anything else for that matter) is to tax them. But McCain rejects a carbon tax in favor of one slightly inferior policy (cap and trade) and one grossly inferior policy (direct regulation, such as the CAFE standards for fuel efficiency).
In a world of perfect capital markets and perfect information, a cap-and-trade system (provided the government auctions off the permits rather than giving them away) is exactly equivalent to a carbon tax – same effect on everything down to and including the prices of consumer goods. In the real world we live in, it's inferior for two reasons: First, small firms might find it difficult=2 0to raise the necessary capital to buy a permit; this gives an inappropriate advantage to big firms over small ones. Second, I believe it will be harder (for technical reasons I won't go into here) to calculate the efficient number of cap-and-trade permits than to calculate the efficient per-ton carbon tax. Aside from that, the two policies are equivalent in every way. McCain presumably doesn't get this, or he wouldn't have such a strong preference for cap-and-trade.
Worse, he endorses the CAFE standards, which are just a terrible way to control carbon emissions. While a carbon tax gets incentives right at every decision point, fuel efficiency standards give people no incentive, for example, to bike to work instead of drive (in fact, they flip the incentive in the wrong direction). Worse yet, they concentrate brainpower on improving fuel efficiency when there might be far more effective ways to control carbon emissions; with a tax, all innovations are rewarded.
In his support of CAFE standards over carbon taxes, McCain betrays a serious failure to understand how incentives work. The same problem shows up when he thinks you can simply mandate campaign finance limits, as if people who are competing for control of a $15 trillion economy won't be creative enough to find some way to spend hundreds of millions in the effort, no matter how you write your laws.
4. McCain gets health care right. The reason poor Americans get too little health care is that rich Am ericans get too much. The reason rich Americans get too much is that they're overinsured, and therefore run to the doctor for minor problems. The reason they're overinsured is that employer-provided health benefits aren't taxed, so employers overprovide them.
It has been clear for decades that the single most effective way to control health care costs is to eliminate the tax break for employer-provided health care. According to one careful study by my colleague Charles Phelps (admittedly several years old, but I'm not sure anything relevant has changed), this single reform could reduce health care costs by 40% with essentially no effect on health care outcomes.
Essential as this reform may be, I'd always assumed it was a political non-starter. I was therefore astonished to learn that it's the essence of McCain's health care reform. (At the same time, he would give each individual $2500, and each family $5000, to use for health care.)
I am astonished that I hadn't heard about this, and particularly astonished that Barack Obama hasn't thrust it in my face with a negative spin. Possibly he has and I just wasn't paying attention. In any case, this is just what the doctor ordered, and I am delighted that McCain has put it on the table.
Obama, by contrast, wants poor people to get more medical care without addressing the problem of overuse by rich people. Where is that extra medical care going to come from? If the answer is "nowhere," then a primary effect of the Obama plan must be to raise prices, making doctors and hospitals the big beneficiaries.
Of course, there are other things that matter. Foreign and defense policy might matter more than anything, and if I were sure that one or the other candidate were far wiser about these issues, that might be enough to win my vote. But I have no expertise on these matters and no particular reason to trust my own judgment.
I'm sure I'm right about trade and pretty sure I'm right about taxes and health care, but that's because I've thought long and hard about these issues for decades. It seems to me that we ought to be humble about the things we haven't thought hard about, and for me that includes foreign policy. The best I can do is bet that whoever's getting most of the other stuff right is getting this right too.
The bottom line is that I support John McCain. With trepidation.

Posted by: Scott | September 20, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Where is the tax return, where is the transparency in the Monegan investigation, where are the answers to open questions, and when do Americans look at her record and words.

Posted by: Jimbo | September 20, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

So in 8 years her pay was up---5 PERCENT!!!
EIGHT YEARS- and you call that a "pay raise"? Relative to inflation it was a major pay cut. Is the WaPo now a direct arm of the Obama campaign, or do you still maintain a separate legal identity technically?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Dems, Repubs, everyone .. you are all about to get a pay cut!! Ignore the petty lies of the campaign and look at the $1,000,000,000,000 BAILOUT of the Banking industry. Count the Zeros!!

Were you Republicans hoping for another McCain Tax cut? Kiss it good bye!!!!

Dems were you hoping for Health Care, SS, Medicare? Kiss it goodbye!!!

No one is getting anything! You're going to lose your houses, lose your jobs, lose the wars ... you are going to spend the next 10 years bailing out banks! Howrah!!!

Once more, Bush will be seen as the President who fiddled while Rome burned. Politics over the People!!

Posted by: TommyT | September 20, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

JakeD is trolling, don't buy into it...

Posted by: stuckInRichmond | September 20, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Jake D you need some serious help buddy. Do you really mean what you say or are you just stirring up the pot. Because you really sound bizarre.

Posted by: unclesam | September 20, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

CRAP_.....NOTHING BUT CRAP HERE

Posted by: J D MOSLEY | September 20, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

The Mavericks, McCain & Palin, oh yes, they are crime/corruption busters...but, don't want their own crimes/corruptions busted!!! NOW, they don't want to cooperate with the "Toopergate" investigation...why because she's as guilty as hell, and the 'first Dude' as well...which in the very beginning of the Palins' limelight they were most willing to cooperate. McCain & Palin do nothing but SWING and SEE-SAW in everything they say. IS THAT WHO & WHAT AMERICA NEEDS RUNNING THE COUNTRY, wishy washers?!?! I certainly don't!!!

It's not only who can run America to be safe, get middle class back to being economically comfortable, health care, education, etc., but, someone who can also try to get some peace in the world...we need a leader who is not ready to put on the boxing gloves immediately...it would not hurt to show some love, friendliness, and be peaceful...and still, keep 'street smartness' within vision.

Posted by: NANCY | September 20, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

JakeD did you graduate from high school? Seriously

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Hacked?
SO WHAT?
I don't remember any outrage that CHENEY AND ADDINGTON TAPPED OUR PHONES, or READ OUR E-MAILS. AND TRASHED OUR CONSTITUTION.

And then PASSED A LAW giving themselves immunity for breaking the law.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD A republican UTTER THE PHRASE "rule of law"????

Your little fit of protest is garbage. Sarah Palin was conducting GOVERNMENT business on her personal e-mail, TO INSURE THAT HER ILLEGAL ACTS OF GOVERNANCE would go undetected, just like her daddy KARL ROVE.

TELL ME: Why do you republicans INSIST on CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR? Is there something wrong with you? Do you have some sort of genetic predisposition to CRIME?
Why won't she (and her "man" answer lawful SUBPOENAS?
WHY DO republicans INSIST ON BREAKING THE LAW?

WHAT IS IT ABOUT YOU republicans THAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU ARE ABOVE THE LAW?

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED ON A SYSTEM OF LAWS THAT APPLY TO ALL PEOPLE?

especially THE GOVERNMENT.......

Our Founding Fathers came here to get away from corruption and royal CRIME.

YOU HAVE TRASHED EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT AMERICA.

YOU RUINED AMERICA.

HAIL KING GEORGE.
ALL HAIL OUR MAGNIFICENT LEADER.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 20, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Four more years of a Republican administration is the biggest problem facing this nation

Posted by: July Smith | September 20, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

OH! I forgot.

YOU PEOPLE WON'T TESTIFY UNDER OATH.

She should be made to put her hand on the Holy Bible and swear and oath to tell the truth.

A REAL CHRISTIAN WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SHE IS A "PRETEND" Christian. She pretends to be a Christian when it SERVES HER PURPOSE.

NOTHING MORE.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 20, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

What I can't figure out is WHY you people (republicans) EMBRACE LIARS and CRIMINALS?

EVERYTHING SHE SAYS IS A LIE.
EVERYTHING.

What ever happened to: THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?


Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 20, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

JakeD,

Your pathetic.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 20, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

She is pathological. What part of the past that she claims is even true?

Earmarks
Bridge to nowhere
Ireland
Iran
Fiscal conservative
Plane on ebay
controlling 20% of the US energy
The list goes on, and on, and on...

About the only thing I can figure that is true is that she is a pit bull with lipstick (and with an IQ to match).

Bottom line is she is one big lie.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 20, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Exactly what is an "Obama operative"? Notice how the McCain camp is quick to make a link where there is none, other than party affiliation. For the record, Obama himself denounced the unlawful activities of those who were trying to hack into Palin's Yahoo account. Get the whole story first before you start mouthing off like an idiot, you "McCain operative."

Posted by: Dr. V | September 20, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Thank you anonymous 6:27 pm. my thoughts exactly!

Posted by: pb | September 20, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

I just saw the post of JakeD instructing us on lying. Face it JakeD we do not need a lawyer to tell us when someone is lying. Frankly I have never found you to lie but you certainly parse your words.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Palin better be ready because there is a thirty per cent chance based on McCain's age and history that he will be history. It shows you that in America a woman who could only get though college because of the tremendous support of her parents could become governor or the state with the most earmarks and whose unique claim to fame has been the frequency of government corruption at all levels. She hired high school friends with no experience to jobs that were filled by qualified employees as one of her early changes in government.

Jake D is not telling you why he thinks she's ready but it is because she is against Roe v Wade. She could be convicted of armed robbery or sodomy but as long as she's right ov Roe v Wade she's ready.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

In all seriousness, what is it about Palin's experience that makes you think that she is ready?
Let's take it one at a time.

She was a mayor of Wasila. What was the most difficult decision she had to make? Clean the snow on Tue. or Wed.? The town had no serious crime, no poverty, no failing schools to worry about. But she still managed to leave the town in $20mln debt and counting. The whole sports complex thing was a debacle because she didn't even do her basic homework. Now the people of Wasila have to pay taxes for years to pay off that debt. So if anything her mayorship is a liability.

Then she becomes governor. What are her accomplishments? She negotiated a pipeline that may never be built. That's the only accomplishment I've heard so far. If you know of more let me know.

She has no foreign policy experience, no clue about the world and world affairs. The notion that being close to Russia qualifies as experience is just embarrassing and makes her inexperience even more obvious. She tried to use her visit to a checkpoint on Kuwait-Iraqi border and a refueling stop in Ireland as some kind of world tour.

For over two weeks on the campaign trail she was just recycling her acceptance speech which was full of half truths and stretches. She wasn't even confident enough to give an interview. Only recently did she start taking some soft ball questions from friendly audiences and even then she is just using talking points her aides gave her.

She just does not have the intellectual gravitas to deal with complex issues of modern world.

Posted by: Thor | September 19, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

She's more "ready" than Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Luckily, only AMERICAN citizens get to vote.

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah does not have what IT TAKES, EVEN WITH THE DUDE. THE ONLY DUDE I KNOW OF FROM CANADA is the Duke, Yepper.
McCain put her in this position and I do feel sorry for her for she was used. Most American Hokey moms have to pay for the tuition. Come onall Moms , the people of America. The joke is, this is not about Hockey. It is about you children. Pretty she is, but not yet ready. The women on our TV in Canada shows about a bunch of women that do not have the respect to listen to each other. Governor Palin has enjoyed enough. Send her home to the like true women of America I knew 10 tears back..

Posted by: justadad5+ | September 19, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Thor:

Exactly! What did you think about Colbert stalking Charlene? We're watching Wheel of Fortune right now.

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

She cut her pay before raising it.

Posted by: Thor | September 19, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey ... she's looking for a BIG raise now: check this out if you want a laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMqGPochWA

Posted by: Did I mention I'm a Beauty Queen? | September 19, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Refuses to show tax returns, refuses to comply in troopergate, no abortion for rape and incest, shoots bears from low flying planes, teenager pregnant, 5 children (1) with down syndrome, attended 6 colleges, bankrupts AL as Mayor, for he bridge before she was against it, Religion is questionable. Uses her Yahoo account for business. Has foreign relations exp. because she can see Russia from AL. I just do not see how we could have found a better candidate for VP.

Sarah, Todd and what his name are a great team - you have my vote.

Posted by: hottpics | September 19, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

If McCain is really serious about the "change" he is promising,why doesnt he offer the presidency to sarah Palin?

Posted by: chandra sekharan | September 19, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Jake - That pay cut/pay raise; kind of like she said "thanks, but no thanks, to that bridge to nowhere". She was for it before she was against it. She even flip-flops on her pay cuts!

Posted by: ggreenwd | September 19, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

to remus: i too read of the anti-palin rally in alaska and wondered why the main-stream media did not pick it up. and, like you, i wondered if it is being suppressed.

to zuckerman: i read the article in knoxnews.com and NOTHING indicates the gentleman in question has been accused, let alone arrested. and, in the event you are not aware, anyone intelligent and bold enough to hack into a public official's private email account is intelligent and bold enough to hide his/her identity and lead investigators down the wrong road. you, by your comment:'well...they FOUND the hacker...it's the son of a democrat...an obama OPERATIVE'are taking it upon yourself to accuse before you know all the facts, even before the investigators are prepared to speak with the rest of the public. do not take it upon yourself to lead others when you don't know where you're going.

Posted by: anon2 | September 19, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Jake, do you ever see one of these stories and think, "Man... how am I going to defend this one?" Or is it just instinctual that you deny it every time Palin or McCain misleads the American public? What a sad little life you lead...

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | September 19, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

why dont you guys write something (anything) about joe biden?

you know, just for a change..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

It's Friday night JakeD. Can't get a date?

http://www.boppoll.com

Get some stress relief!

Posted by: JakeD, Can't get a date? | September 19, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

OTOH:

Will liberals finally agree that increasing federal funding at something less than COLA is not a "cut" either?

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

FROM THE ARTICLE:

Palin's pay dropped $3000 in October 1996 and $2000 in July 1999.

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Losercuda:

You are counting down until the day McCain-Palin beat Obama-Biden?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/19/for_obama_little_progress_with.html

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC

Posted by: Losercuda | September 19, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

So what? She did take a paycut when she took office? Do you expect her to serve 8 years at the same pay? Is this what 30 dnc lawyers and opposition researchers can come up with? Big f---ning deal!

Posted by: NickinVA | September 19, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

"Half-truths" now?! Let me guess, you defended Bill "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky" Clinton? Hypocrits!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, It's the little yellow pill in the afternoon, not the white one. Take the yellow pill JakeD!

Posted by: Dave | September 19, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

What is so pathetic about all of her half truths and lies is it is so easy to check them. What? Does she think everyone is from East Podunk? Did she honestly believe no one would check public records to find out the facts? This woman gets six Pinocchio's as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: DikesforPalin | September 19, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

P.S. -- she's not under oath to "Tell the Whole Truth" -- she didn't say "My pay never increased" did she? That would be a "lie".

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

No, it does not depend on what the meaning of "pay cut" is. She took a pay cut, "yes" or "no"? If "no" please explain the TWO cuts set forth in the article. If "yes" she didn't lie.

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Jake, Jake, Jake-

Call it a lie, call it intentionally misleading, call it whatever you want, she just can't tell the full truth.

Just another misrepresetation from the Double-talk Express. Can even one day go by without another whopper?

Posted by: bgjd1979 | September 19, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

distortion, deception, secrecy, stonewalling exaggerations. Palin is learning fast now that McCain sent his lawyers up there to teach her the "Republican way". It depends on what the meaning of "pay cut" is.

Enough is Enough!

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 19, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

matt:

Read the quote again: "... as mayor, I took a voluntary pay cut, which didn't really thrill my husband."

1) She took a pay cut.

2) It didn't really thrill Todd.

Which one did she "lie" about?

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Why not just shut up about her record instead of flatly-out lying about nearly every part of it? It's just silly.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 19, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Read the quote again: "... as mayor, I took a voluntary pay cut, which didn't really thrill my husband."

1) She took a pay cut.

2) It didn't really thrill Todd.

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

The truth remains she CUT her pay (regardless if it was later increased or a City Manager was also hired). No "lie".

Posted by: JakeD | September 19, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

MITT ROMNEY TO REPLACE PALIN AS McCAIN'S VEEP?


I predict Mitt Romney soon will be McCain's veepee, once Sarah Palin is forced to resign as she becomes a major drag on the ticket and finds her candidacy awash in family and political scandal.

But what's really on my mind is whether our free market, capitalist Constitutional democracy is nearing an end -- and whether naive liberal/progressives are complicit in democracy's demise at the hands of authoritarian American national socialists.
For more, see:

http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener | September 19, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I can explain it, it called lying...imagine that.

Posted by: Remus | September 19, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

In response to Dodgers1 - - The biggest rally in Alaskan history was held several days ago and this huge event didn't make the news. I wonder why. Was it because it was a demonstration protesting Palin's VP status?

Posted by: Pam | September 19, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

By the way, is this woman a compulsive resume puffer? This is getting ridiculous.

Posted by: zukermand | September 19, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

In my city of 100,000, the mayor is part time and is paid $13,000 a year. That salary of Palin's just sounds crazy high to me. Is it possible, with a population of 5,500 at the time, Wasilla, AK had among the highest salary per capita mayors in the country? That seems like the sort of question a reporter at the Washington Post might consider answering for us.

Posted by: zukermand | September 19, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, leftist Democrats guess what? They found the person who hacked into Gov. Palin's personal email. It's the son of a Democrat State Legislator from Tennessee. The Democrat Legislator is also an Obama operative. The Democrat's son is currently being investigated by the FBI and Secret Service. You can find the article in knoxnews.com. Nowhere in the Washington Post, NY Times or LA Times do you see an article about "Hackergate". The Associated Press, a leftist news outlet, refused to cooperate with the FBI and Secret Service. I wonder why all these extreme leftist publications and news outlets are refusing to publish anything about this news item? Is it because they're trying to protect Obama? Any news about "Troopergate" is published, whether or not the information is true. Liberal Democrats are self righteous enough to believe that none of their kind can be involved in any felony. It's only Republicans who are felons. I hope that dad and son end up in prison for illegally hacking into Gov. Palin's personal email for along time. Obama said he would return to Chicago style politics. "Hackergate" is only the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: Dodgers1 | September 19, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Funniest cartoon about Palin ever. Did you know she wanted rape victims to pay for their own rape kits? Haha:
http://www.236.com/video/2008/get_your_war_on_sarah_palin_an_9028.php

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/also-will-call-for-democratization.html

Thursday, September 18, 2008
Palin Announces Palin/McCain Ticket: Ambition, Inexperience First

From ABC News:

"Uh-oh.

Gov. Sarah Palin is now talking about "a Palin and McCain administration."

Hilarious if it wasn't so frightening. The kind of slip made by a very young person whose ambitious fantasies all-too-easily break through her manifest inability to think before talking.

Incidentally, this has been her MO all along. From the New Yorker:

"Palin’s record as the mayor of Wasilla, a town forty miles north of Anchorage, told a somewhat different story. According to “Sarah,” a biography by Kaylene Johnson, Palin had got into politics after she befriended the man who was then mayor and his police chief at a step-aerobics class. She made them her allies and ran for City Council. Then she challenged them for control of City Hall, and drove them out. As she purged her former friends and patrons, she denounced them as “good ol’ boys,” although her takeover of Wasilla had been aided from the start by Alaska’s Republican Party establishment."

Impulsivity, an utter lack of reflectiveness and lack of basic knowledge combines with driving and unconsidered ambition to create a youthful, thoughtless grandiosity in reaction to the overwhelming whirl.

A dangerous combination at a time when wisdom, knowledge and reflectiveness are truly a necessity for our nation and our future.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/also-will-call-for-democratization.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

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