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Poll: Palin 'Gets' It

Q. Which one of the following four candidates do you think best understands the problems of every day life in America?

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SOURCE: Fox News-Opinion Dynamics poll conducted by telephone Sept. 8-9, 2008 among a random national sample of 900 registered voters. Results have a three point error margin.

By Jon Cohen
If there's an area where Sarah Palin clearly helps John McCain, it's that she's widely perceived as someone who "gets it," according to a new Fox News poll.

One of McCain's biggest deficits in yesterday's Washington Post-ABC News poll was on the question of whether he understands the economic problems people in this country are facing. About three-quarters of voters said Barack Obama understood their economic problems, but barely over half said so about McCain.

McCain's number on that question is dangerously close to George H. W. Bush's in August of 1992, a little more than two months before he lost his bid for reelection.

Enter Palin.

In the new Fox poll, when asked which of the candidates -- including all four presidential and vice presidential aspirants -- "best understand the problems of every day life in America," Palin (33 percent) and Obama (32 percent) come out on top, with McCain (17 percent) and Joe Biden (10 percent) trailing.

Even 14 percent of Democrats said Palin's the one who best understands everyday problems, and she leads on this score among independents, who split 35 percent for Palin, 22 percent for Obama, 20 percent for McCain and 8 percent for Biden.

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 10, 2008; 3:45 PM ET
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What nobody is pointing out is the simple image the McCain ticket is running. We are electing Mom & Dad to run the US. Palin plays the stay at home frugal mom roll balancing the books taking care of the kids and McCain will be out there bringing home the bacon and protecting the family from evil. It works for the Lo-info voter because it makes sense. It is the very structure they live and die by. This is what should be attacked as for what it is reality TV entering the white house.

Posted by: erik | September 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Taxes - people don't get simple math...

If you earn less than $250,000.00 per year... McCain will give you a 3% tax break, but Obama will give you a 5% tax break. You will have more money in the bank, pay the govenment less with Obama. You win with Obama, not McCain!!!

Many of the people who benefit the most just don't get it.

So sad.

Posted by: What's the point | September 11, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It's a sad day to see others think Sarah Palin "gets" it because of her "hockey mom" image. Get me a break! I'm voting for the most qualified candidate to lead OUR country to positive CHANGE. Not on a figure head who has a aw shucks personality.

Posted by: Sara | September 11, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

you wish:

I An America (And So Can You!) vy comedian and genius Dr. Stephen T. Colbert:

Ha-that is a good book. The Colbert Report is TiVo'd regularly. I always enjoy "Back in Black" on the Daily Show so I'll have to add that one to my list too.

Posted by: Rant | September 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

You gotta be kidding me: very well said!


09.11.01 - To the victims and their families. You will be in my thoughts today and always.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/sep2005/inte-s08.shtml

And the McCain/Palin is more of the same.


Posted by: you wish | September 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The only "change" we've seem from "Maverick" McCain how he constantly changes his position on things. Mr. McCain, excuse me, but can you makeup your f*#*ing mind as to who you are and what you're about?

Sincerely,

Truly disgusted with you!

Posted by: You gotta be kidding me | September 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Sorry the second link didn't paste in correctly:
The Lewis Black book can be found here:
http://www.lewisblack.com/me_of_little_faith.asp

Posted by: you wish | September 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Rant, I highly recommend the following books:

1. I An America (And So Can You!) vy comedian and genius Dr. Stephen T. Colbert:
http://www.makemeamerica.com/

2. "Me Of Little Faith" by comedian and genius Lewis Black:
http://www.makemeamerica.com/

Posted by: yiu wish | September 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, the "Scott" post at 11:01 PM is a different "Scott" than at 8:42 PM : )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Obags - "Read Escape From Freedom by Erich Fromm"

I just finished "They Thought They Were Free", and am looking for a new book to read. Although you may be preaching to the choir in this case.

What's frightening to me is that, in talking to some people I know who consider themselves Conservative Christians, they seem to see our "meddling" in the middle east as a GREAT way to hasten the end times and, consequently, their raptures. Never underestimate these people.

What would they be expecting? "Thanks for supporting all those wars, and the deaths of all of those innocent people for Me because you were tired of other people having abortions and gay sex. Here's your halo, welcome to Heaven!!"

Consequently, listening to Sarah Palin describe the war in Iraq as "God's will" is frightening.

Disclaimer: This is not an indictment of all Christians. Just some of the more extreme examples I know.

Posted by: Rant | September 11, 2008 3:50 AM | Report abuse

These weren't rhetorical questions I had asked. They are questions put to you and yet no one has any answers. Again;

Palin claims the war in Iraq is God's will? She is a Jihadist, just like the folks she wants to kill. How do you feel about her having the same mentality as those religious fanatics?

I can't believe people would want their mother, wife, sister, girlfriend or daughter to be forced to have a child if raped, yet this is what she believes in and this is the person you want?

Again, can it would work for you to see yourself or someone you love through that pregnancy?

I have to assume most people voting for McCain had voted for Bush – twice. How anyone can defend the damage he has done to our country is beyond me. Now these same folks have an answer. Took it hook, line, sinker, pole and reel and now they know how to fix it, McCain. How can you convince anyone that you have any idea, any credibility, after voting in this current moron and defending him these past eight years? All of a sudden you know how to fix the very problems you created?

Well? How did this epiphany come to you?

Read Escape From Freedom by Erich Fromm. It describes why people do not want to be truly free and run to religion, government and country in order not to be.

Has anyone here read it? Comments?

Posted by: Obags | September 11, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Fox News? Well we know it cant possibly be bias!

Posted by: Bill | September 11, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, in Federal Court

What is going on here! Is it true that Obama was born in Kenya Africa. Is it true that there are no records of his mother giving birth to him at any hospital in Hawaii.

What Hospital in Hawaii was Obama born at?

Who was the Doctor that delivered him?

Who was the Nurse that cared for him at his mothers delivery?

What are their names?

Is it true that his Grandmother, and half-sister have said he was in fact born in Kenya.

Is it true that Republicans have records to prove Obama was born in Kenya.

And is it true that he was registered as a citizen of Indonesia as a Muslim.

Is there any truth to any of this. Where is the major media on this story. Have they investigated this. Has any of the above been proved untrue.

If any of the above is true this is very serious.

What's up!

Posted by: is it true | September 11, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Wees gawna take the wite hous by farce if we has to. Them kansirvatives think theer smart n evrythin butt us democrits ar the edicated wons. C'mon fellers. Grab yur muskits and duplomus n such n lits storm the kapital.

Posted by: Number one Donkey | September 10, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thought that inclusion of a woman on McCain's ticket would cause so much strife, disbelief, depression, confusion, and regret? And that's just among Obama's advisers. Obamaphiles at large are Really losing it. One thing that comes across loudly is the anger at McCain/Palin's nerve-selecting a woman after Obama rejected one. And not just any woman, but a free-thinking strongly independent-minded conservative who refuses to tow the PC line. She represents everything far Left Democrats resent:pro-life, family values, small town America, anti-corruption, defending our national security on OUR terms suiting OUR needs, pro-fossil fuels till the new technologies work as advertised, Global Warming skepticism, even the old anti-WasteFraud&Abuse thing {dragged out as often as 'energy independence'}, and lower taxes.

It's just an added bonus that Palin has the common touch with voters.

There is no miracle cure for what ails Obama & Friends. Obama had well over two years to set this up. He failed. Now he's scrambling for something more appealing, keeping in mind that he's still a Democrat expected to do and say the typical Democrat things.

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | September 10, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama strongly favors Federal spending on Corn Ethanol even though it increases Global Warming and Requires one unit of petroleum for every unit it replaces, therefore INCREASING our dependency on foreign oil!
He's against sugar cane ethanol which is 7x as efficient WHY??? CHACHIIIING...he's just another politician bringing home the pork for his constituents- no change on THIS issue Obama!-

Study: Ethanol may add to global warming
Updated 2/8/2008 5:52 PM


By H. Josef Hebert, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON — The widespread use of ethanol from corn could result in nearly twice the greenhouse gas emissions as the gasoline it would replace because of expected land-use changes, researchers concluded Thursday. The study challenges the rush to biofuels as a response to global warming.
The researchers said that past studies showing the benefits of ethanol in combating climate change have not taken into account almost certain changes in land use worldwide if ethanol from corn — and in the future from other feedstocks such as switchgrass — become a prized commodity.
"Using good cropland to expand biofuels will probably exacerbate global warming," concludes the study published in Science magazine.
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The researchers said that farmers under economic pressure to produce biofuels will increasingly "plow up more forest or grasslands," releasing much of the carbon formerly stored in plants and soils through decomposition or fires. Globally, more grasslands and forests will be converted to growing the crops to replace the loss of grains when U.S. farmers convert land to biofuels, the study said.
The Renewable Fuels Association, which represents ethanol producers, called the researchers' view of land-use changes "simplistic" and said the study "fails to put the issue in context."
FIND MORE STORIES IN: Congress | Princeton University | Thursday
"Assigning the blame for rainforest deforestation and grassland conversion to agriculture solely on the renewable fuels industry ignores key factors that play a greater role," said Bob Dinneen, the association's president.
There has been a rush to developing biofuels, especially ethanol from corn and cellulosic feedstock such as switchgrass and wood chips, as a substitute for gasoline. President Bush signed energy legislation in December that mandates a six-fold increase in ethanol use as a fuel to 36 billion gallons a year by 2022, calling the requirement key to weaning the nation from imported oil.
The new "green" fuel, whether made from corn or other feedstocks, has been widely promoted — both in Congress and by the White House — as a key to combating global warming. Burning it produces less carbon dioxide, the leading greenhouse gas, than the fossil fuels it will replace.
During the recent congressional debate over energy legislation, lawmakers frequently cited estimates that corn-based ethanol produces 20% less greenhouse gases in production, transportation and use than gasoline, and that cellulosic ethanol has an even greater benefit of 70% less emissions.
The study released Thursday by researchers affiliated with Princeton University and a number of other institutions maintains that these analyses "were one-sided" and counted the carbon benefits of using land for biofuels but not the carbon costs of diverting land from its existing uses.
"The other studies missed a key factor that everyone agrees should have been included, the land use changes that actually are going to increase greenhouse gas emissions," said Tim Searchinger, a research scholar at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and lead author of the study.
The study said that after taking into account expected worldwide land-use changes, corn-based ethanol, instead of reducing greenhouse gases by 20%, will increases it by 93% compared to using gasoline over a 30-year period. Biofuels from switchgrass, if they replace croplands and other carbon-absorbing lands, would result in 50% more greenhouse gas emissions, the researchers concluded.

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Barry Obama-
This isn't "Change your name Change"...this isn't "bonehead move" change, this isn't " Joe changed his name for the author's name on his law school papers" change, this isn't "I attended the church for 20 years but didn't hear anything controversial" change,

THIS IS REAL-

From Today's Wall Street Journal!
Yes, Palin Did Stop That Bridge
By JIM DEMINT
September 10, 2008
"But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up." -- Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2008
In politics, words are cheap. What really counts are actions. Democrats and Republicans have talked about fiscal responsibility for years. In reality, both parties have a shameful record of wasting hundreds of billions of tax dollars on pork-barrel projects.
My Senate colleague Barack Obama is now attacking Gov. Sarah Palin over earmarks. Having worked with both John McCain and Mr. Obama on earmarks, and as a recovering earmarker myself, I can tell you that Mrs. Palin's leadership and record of reform stands well above that of Mr. Obama.
Let's compare.
Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."
Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.
Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.
Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.
Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.
When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.
Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, "Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin's antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state."
Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from pubic scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington.
Mr. Obama has shown little restraint on earmarks until this year, when he decided to co-sponsor an earmark moratorium authored by Mr. McCain and myself. Mr. Obama is vulnerable on this issue, and he knows it. That is why he is lashing out at Mrs. Palin and trying to hide his own record.
Mrs. Palin is one of the strongest antiearmark governors in America. If more governors around the country would do what she has done, we would be much closer to fixing our nation's fiscal problems than we are.
Mrs. Palin's record here is solid and inspiring. She will help Mr. McCain shut down the congressional favor factory, and she has a record to prove it. Actions mean something. You can't just make stuff up.
Mr. DeMint, a Republican, is a U.S. senator from South Carolina.

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Sarah "Pork Queen" Palin does get it! She understands the priorities of millions of American soccer moms and dads who scream for a sports complex when the town really needs a sewage treatment plan. She understands the 6000 souls of Wasilla who let her bilk the rest of America for "pork" with which to build the essential things that a community of responsible adults should fund first.

Palin's fiscal sense approximates that of a sixteen year old with a credit card, which is pretty much how the rest of the country behaves. So yes, she gets it.

Posted by: Sonia Kermaz | September 10, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/6lbfdv

Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Palinism: Politics as The Content-Free Violation of Expectation

What is Palinism?

What is it about?

What policies?

What ideas?

What positions?

Even in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, while no doubt many were motivated by regional partisanship, local prejudices, and "the measure" of the candidate, one suspects that at least a rough rendering of the issues--secession vs. Union, free vs. enslaved--was carried in and animated the crowds.

Now, it is pure reaction to pattern. To one impulse expectation violated by the provocation of another impulse, that feels--good.

We have reached the content-free phase of American politics.

A form, an image--glasses, hair, a voice, what it suggests--is enough. She could be speaking the words to the airport timetable, the swearing-in speech of Ferdinand Marcos, the ingredients of a
box of Sizzlean--the firm, the image, the sound, and the gathering impulse, the bare stirring from dull lack of novelty--is sufficient to awaken the crowds to angry perturbance at...the stimulus to be perturbed, and the bare sense of actual directed action and purpose that comes with doing so.

Palin herself wears a glazed, slightly confused look in her eyes--what is it that has unleashed this roar, this approbation. Being used to herself, and having been among those who are well used to her, she is unaware of the novelty that her mere form releases in the dazed electorate, yearning for a pretext for expression. Soon, she'll believe it herself.

And, after all, isn't that what democracy is all about? The ability to choose to decide without knowledge? Better yet, to choose your knowledge, irrespective of fact, in correspondence with the liberating, confirmation-free impulse?

This is what today's moment stands for.

These are our satisfactions and securities in this golden age.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/6lbfdv

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Dave, in reply to your question: "What happened to the "United" States of America? "

EIGHT ENDLESS DISGUSTINGLY BLOODY YEARS OF GEORGE W. BUSH!!!

Sorry, I love this country as mush as you do. I agree that the only way to survive as a Nation is to LIVE and LET LIVE, but for the past EIGHT F*****G YEARS I saw enough abuses from the Republican Party representatives that I want to see a CHANGE.

I am seeing a change in myself too: I REALLY WANT THIS COUNTRY TO BEE ALL THAT IT CAN BE and I can see this happening only if DEMOCRACY is truly represented.
And I can see this happening only if OBAMA/BIDEN will be elected.

McCain is now promoting himself as the 'Men of Change"
> WTF ?!?

What he's been changing so far - in the last 72 hours - is his own campaign approach, from "ME THE EXPERIENCED ONE-OBAMA THE GREENY BABY" to "ME THE MAN F CHANGE" as he really cannot keep on the same note, with a VP by the name of Sarah Palin who doesn't even know what a VP supposes to do...:
QUOTING SARAH:
“As for that ‘V.P.’ talk all the time … I tell ya, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me, What is it exactly that the ‘VP’ does every day?” Palin asked host Lawrence Kudlow on CNBC sometime before her nomination." - from Judith Warner's "The Mirrored Ceiling" - published by New York Times Blog here:
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/the-mirrored-ceiling/

MacCain is a major FLIP-FLOPPER who kept changing his opinion around many topics, including one that should have been a NO-BRAINER for him: TORTURE

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous-
You are a cowardly anarchist willing to write anything to show off your 2nd grade probably underemployed intellect by posting in my name. Even Joe Biden wants to disassociate himself from losers like you and Obama-PATHETIC

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous-
You are a cowardly anarchist willing to write anything to show off your 2nd grade probably underemployed intellect by posting in my name. Even Joe Biden wants to disassociate himself from losers like you and Obama-PATHETIC

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Rant: sorry for misunderstanding your joke.

Oh I know something about Sarah Palin: she is against everything that real women - with real balls - stood for centuries, above all the right to choose.

Remember in her speech she said "I chose to..." Great. She chose to keep her down-syndrome baby girl.

So, why not giving other women the same opportunity to CHOOSE?

Also, I know that she doesn't want to have any sex education in school. Is that even conceivable in real life? In this century?
And she still believes that that's the only way to keep your children safe, away from "sex"?

Isn't her daughter and so many million teens out there, particularly coming from super-religious-freaks-families carrying a child, hence depending on both family and society to assist that child, to give him/her an education?

I came from a moderate to seriosly restraining religious family when it came to sex... even talking about sex.
Although I never decided to break my mother's heart and my family finances by carrying an extra-child around the house, I did have the opportunity to discover that sex is not the quintessential essence of the devil, but part of life.

Is that so brutal and horrendous that we have to keep telling fables to our children about how we came to life?

Are we so primordial and puritans in the big great America no. 1?????

I wish to tell to all those puritans to stand in front of Raffaello's Three Graces, or Michelangelo's Davide or even.
If you are not at awe by seeing the flawless beauty of human anatomy, female and male, the embracing grace of Canova's Love and Psyche, then you are completely blind to what the essence of being human is all about. Including sex.

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Is John McCain the Anti-Christ???????

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/08/10885/

I will not be voting in this election.

Posted by: Christian | September 10, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

These comments are amazing! Other than a couple well thought out notes, most of this is concentrated hatred and vitriol. It's unbelievable to me that the choice of a leader can bring out this much pure fury. What happened to the "United" States of America? What happened to respectful disagreement? Can't we listen to another viewpoint without resorting to calling each other pigs? Amazing...

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous-
You are a cowardly anarchist willing to write anything to show off your 2nd grade probably underemployed intellect by posting in my name. Even Joe Biden wants to disassociate himself from losers like you and Obama-PATHETIC

Posted by: scott | September 10, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

To You Wish, I stand corrected!

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

You better vote this November or you might find the anti-christ in your own bed, on you own TV 24/7 like in George Orwell 1984 and in your worse nightmares... with the only difference that those nightmares will become your 24/7 reality.

You see. It really doesn't matter at all what we discuss here, on the internets... The game is rigged. It was in 2000 and in 2004.
The greedy machine is getting smarter and smarter. The money will be pumped in the same direction to keep in power who feeds the machine with the blood of the innocents, those 17-year old kids who are send to the current war, to future wars...

What's appalling, revolting, disturbing is that these very people who support the Anti-Christ and family are PRO-LIFE or ANTI-ABORTION, they defend life since its conception, to then condone bloody slaughter of that so precious life in a senseless oil war...

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

you wish:

I think you missed the point of my post. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm tired of people bringing up Obama's middle name as if it was actually important.

We have actual problems here people. I can't say this enough. And I really can't say THIS enough: Palin will be one heartbeat away from the presidency, and we know NOTHING about her. Yet we're all focusing on stupid stuff - apparently myself included, at times...:-)

Posted by: Rant | September 10, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Is John McCain the Anti-Christ???????

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/08/10885/

I will not be voting in this election.

Posted by: Christian | September 10, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Hoffman: pigs are too smart, perhaps I'd compare Sarah to a very small microorganism, a spore, a bacteria, a fungi. Many scientists would not include viruses and prions, but I can picture her only as a Virus. A lethal one, who, if given power, will be a CANCER OF WOMEN RIGHTS TO CHOOOOOOOOOOSE, among other things.

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Your article is proof positive that the American people are as dumb as rocks.


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=george+carlin&hl=en&emb=0&aq=0&oq=george+car#

Posted by: basementfrog | September 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I have to say, I too, was waiting to hear Palin's stance on ALL issues, but, thanks to Jake D's genius post, I now understand that we can run this country with nothing but abortion and stem cell laws.
I think I've just decided to vote for Obama - just to cancel out his vote!
Jake D, you're a moron. Will overturning Roe v Wade guarantee that we all still have jobs in a year? NO. Will banning stem cell research prevent the housing market from collapsing even further? I HIGHLY doubt it.
Once again, we ask, what are your platforms, Sarah??? (Other than the, oh-so-eloquent post of abortion and stem-cell, of course!)
She's cute and super-spunky! But I still don't know how she's going to fix the REAL problems that Bush left this coutry with. Talk to me, Goose!! I'll listen! But you can't win an election on lies and insults (I hope! What a mess we're in if you can!) - Tell me what you're going to do to fix Bushy's GIANT mess! What about education? What about the war? What about the economy and the housing market?? What about foreign relations? What about health care?
Numbers don't lie. McCain voted WITH Bush on 90% of the issues.
I'm waiting for an explanation of how, this time, things will be different.

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a Pig!

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Clinging to my religion, Rant, please repeat after me: We have one ounce brain between the two of us...

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Clinging to my religion:

Forcing pedophilia on 5-8 year olds in Illinois? What on Earth are you talking about?

Yeah, it would be *terrible* to teach young children what constitutes "inappropriate touching". I don't get that as forcing pedophilia on anyone, but maybe your mind goes to different places.

Posted by: fourmoreplease | September 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

THIS CHARACTER "CURT" NEEDS ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES.

Posted by: opp88 | September 10, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Typical comments; Go Sarah? Is this a football game? That’s the mentality of most of what I see here. Their convention came across as a World Wide Wrestling Federation Smack Down. And this is still attractive to too many people. Gomer and Nub still vote and they are attracted to Palin’s trash talk. This country has been so dumbed down, are now fed the most vile crap and we eat it up.

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. Albert Einstein
Nationalism and fascism only differ in degree. Erich Fromm

Read Escape From Freedom by Erich Fromm. It describes why people do not want to be truly free and run to religion, government and country in order not to be.

Posted by: Obags | September 10, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

OMG! His middle name is Hussein?? Do people know about thiss? Why isn't the MSM reporting this!? Only BAD people are named Hussein! OMG this is just too much I was totally going to vote for him but his name is just too different!!

The past 8 years have sucked and McCain/Palin are no better, and McCain has admitted he knows NOTHING about economics, the most important issue to everyone right now, but OMG!! Obama's name is HUSSEIN!

ZOMG!!1!!!!11!! HUSSEIN OBAMA BIN BIDEN!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!

(Please people, stop posting Obama's middle name as if it were important. If his middle name influences your vote you are an idiot.)

Posted by: Rant | September 10, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Cliff

What made me absolutely determined to put everything I can into the effort to elect McCain/Palin was when I learned of the Obama effort to force pedophilia on 5-8 years old in Illinois. No pervert is going to teach my children how 2 men have sex and that it is normal to masturbate in private (5 yr olds). That's what Obama and his ilk gave the people of Illinois. He is disturbed and so far out of touch. This kind of stuff keeps coming to light. He'll get 30% and carry only California and DC.

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin claims the war in Iraq is God's will? She is a Jihadist, just like the folks she wants to kill. I can't believe people would want their mother, sister, girlfriend or daughter to be forced to have a child if raped, yet this is what she believes in and this is the person you want?

I have to assume most people voting for McCain had voted for Bush – twice. How anyone can defend the damage he has done to our country is beyond me. Now these same folks have an answer. Took it hook, line, sinker, pole and reel and now they know how to fix it, McCain. How can you convince anyone that you have any idea, any credibility, after voting in this current moron and defending him these past eight years? All of a sudden you know how to fix the very problems you created?

McCain's temper led REPUBLICAN Senator Domenici of New Mexico to say "I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger." McCain's "ire is all too real. This has prompted questions about whether his temperament is suited to the office of commander-in-chief... 'I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger,' Domenici told Newsweek in 2000." [AP, 2/16/08]

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), also a senior member of the Appropriations panel, told the Boston Globe recently. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

“I like McCain. I respect McCain. But I am a little worried by his knee-jerk response factor,” said retired Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who was in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004. “I think it is a little scary. I think this guy’s first reactions are not necessarily the best reactions. I believe that he acts on impulse.”

"I studied leadership for a long time during 32 years in the military," said retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Scott Gration, a one-time Republican who is supporting Obama. "It is all about character. Who can motivate willing followers? Who has the vision? Who can inspire people?" Gration asked. "I have tremendous respect for John McCain, but I would not follow him."

"One of the things the senior military would like to see when they go visit the president is a kind of consistency, a kind of reliability," explained retired Gen. Merrill McPeak, a former Republican, former chief of staff of the Air Force and former fighter pilot who flew 285 combat missions. McPeak said his perception is that Obama is "not that up when he is up and not that down when he is down. He is kind of a steady Eddie. This is a very important feature," McPeak said. On the other hand, he said, "McCain has got a reputation for being a little volatile." McPeak is campaigning for Obama.

Posted by: Obags | September 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

skorp421 repeat after me: one ounce brain.

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

His full name is Barack Hussein Obama? Are you serious?! How did he get this far in the election?!... How did he beat Hillary?!! Does any of the liberals know about this?!... The world is ending.(sigh)

Posted by: skorp421 | September 10, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

"The people who thinks Palin gets it are the ones who are 40 and above middle aged men whose main pasttime is watching porn on the internet. They would rather see a succulent Palin strut her stuff than see our economy repaired, or our health improved. For them Palin is god sent since she is the only one among the 4 who is easy on the eyes.

Posted by: Papa Bear | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM"

This Bear's comment was undeniably sexist. The people who THINK Palin understands the problems of everyday life look at her record, see that she actually took a pay cut once-like ordinary people sometimes have to in the real world. They see she actually took the jobs she was elected to (her civil service) seriously, was able to use the veto power entrusted to her when necessary, balanced the budget and gave surplus back to the people it belongs to. She had the audacity to hope there is still room in America's heart for children like Trig, and the unborn child her daughter carries. We see played out before our eyes her faith, which gives her the grace and humility to embrace what she would not have chosen for herself.

Posted by: Sara | September 10, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Julia,

You are too stupid to vote.

Anyone who buys into this 'Lipstick" crap NEEDS a government to tell them what to do.

Vote Republican at your own peril.

Sue

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: 'Drill, Baby, Drill'
John McCain: 'Oh yeah, Baby! You're my soulmate'
LOL...
Meanwhile America no.1 is not capable to produce a plan for the top three hot topic:
1. The Planet/Global Warming/Pollution/Human Health
2. War/Powerty/Deficit/Economy/Bankrupcy
3. Health Care/Education

HELLLLLOOOOOOOO RIGHT & LEFT AND MEDIA: IS THERE ANYONE UP THERE?!!??!?

Right.. the "ONE OUNCE BRAIN OF SARAH PALIN WILL FIX IT ALL...GOD FORBID JOHN DROPS DEAD AFTER THE Third: "Drill, Baby, Drill!!!"

Posted by: you wish | September 10, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin “Get’s it” up the A** from John McCain

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Who is running for president on the Republican ticket? Not Mcsame. He is a Sidekick in his own party and this race. Palin is not the one who cannot stand on her own, it is Mcain. How sad for a guy who has thirst for power cannot even stand for himself going to take a stand with Russia, and the terrorists. Do this remind us of someone: George W Bush. He is a photocopy president. We know that Cheney make all the decisions. Mcain more of the same.

Posted by: Omidal | September 10, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

whoever reads and believes in polls must be brain damaged.
Or America deserves that one ounce of brain that Sarah Palin has to offer to this great country. America: no.1

Posted by: youwish | September 10, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Bob Woodward's secret weapon. What is it?

In general, I tend to trust Bob Woodward, so his allusion to some sort of 'secret weapon' we are using in Iraq to identify and then eliminate terrorist leaders caught my attention, and raised my concerns. Because Woodward refused to say anything specific about what 'IT' was, it's not even clear whether it's a new technology, or some sort of highly sophisticated data mining protocol, or perhaps even a behavioral profiling methodology which is highly effective. It could even be something completely phony that the Bush administration cooked up to feed him on purpose, and he just happened to buy into it.

But given all those ambiguities, it raises some serious questions, first and foremost, if it's so ultra-top-secret, who is in a position to evaluate whether the people being 'eliminated' actually are 'bad guys'?

There's overwhelming evidence that out of all the so called "suspected safe houses" that we have bombed in Iraqi and Afghanistan residential neighborhoods, (on the theory that suspected terrorists happen to be sleeping there on the night we choose to obliterate them, along with everyone else who may also be sleeping there too), who decides whether the target bad-guy is really bad, and who audits the collateral damage done in terms of innocent lives lost, vs. whether or not we actually 'took out' the intended target? Are they the same people who kidnapped, interrogated, tortured, and then held at Guantanamo for years individuals who had nothing to do with any terrorist activity, and were apprehended by mistake, but who remained incarcerated anyway because releasing them would have required the United States to admit to having committed a string of human rights violations in the process?

Another question I have: if this set of capabilities can be applied in Iraq, can it be applied in the United States, domestically, and if so, who is in a position of authority sufficient to provide oversight of whether or how it is being used?

Frankly, I think Bob Woodward needs to think long and hard about what it is he thinks he knows, and not only consider it in light of his professional obligations, but in light of his obligations as a citizen of this country. I hope whatever boundaries he's observing in protecting the secrecy of this (whatever it is) has an end-point that coincides with the Constitution of this country, and not his favored professional sources.

As has been pointed out (apropos Orwell's very relevant novel, 1984, and the potential that the McCain campaign has paid staffer's operating as shills in these supposedly open forums to free speech), the Republicans who are presently in power seem to recognize no boundaries whatsoever in pursuit of whatever goals they have arrogated to themselves, publicly or privately. As a Republican who is not among that group, I am much more worried about what they might do to whoever they choose to identify as an 'enemy' than any other country or terrorist group I see on the horizon. I can only hope that the rank and file members of our military adhere to a higher standard, and fortunately, I believe that they do.

Posted by: ted in pdx | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

"DEMOCRATS are SO SCARED of Sarah Palin!"

Yes! Everyone should be. She's a fundie nutjob about whom we know next to nothing. The only things she's said have been regurgitated snippets of her RNC speech.

She'll be in charge if McCain dies (there's a 1 in 3 chance of that happening in the next four years, statistically speaking.) And we're willing to elect them, no questions asked?

Why do people not understand the seriousness of this? This is not a football game. This is not a high school election. This is not a reality game-show.

Posted by: anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

This poll is a testament to the general stupidity of the American people. Palin is a right wing religious fruit cake that is anti-science, anti-choice, and anti-logic, and anti-American. She actually believes that we should teach, in our public schools, the world was created by the judeo-christian god in 6 days! Even more abstainence only education- which means more STD's and pregnant girls in high school.

Posted by: brad | September 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that comes on a fox website and posts bad comments about KickArse Sarah Palin obviously likes to read about her and looks up to McCain / Palin for 2008!!


Break baby BREAK IT!!!!

Posted by: Nacho | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

sarah palin is a victim, helpless to come to her own defence?

i don't believe that sarah is stupid or helpless.

i see a woman that has been duped into a co-dependent relationship. she is submitting to being gagged from speaking on her own ...about herself - for herself.

this dominance is being portrayed for public view as some honorable or galant protectionism. it is neither honorable nor galant. it is demeaning and diminishing.

if john mccain truly respects sarah palin as a powerful woman, he should release her....he should encourage here to go - on her own - to give speeches and answer questions.

instead, john mccain is using sarah palin as a token. she is being set up to be seen as a victim. it is the height of disrespect.

is her purpose to be a martyr for women? to demonstrate that she, like all women, is helpless and intellectually incapable of defending herself? that she requires a "squad" of surrogates to speak for her?

john mccain takes sarah around like a trophy...like chattel to be seen and not heard - unless it is to speak his praise.

john mccain is a misogynist.

Posted by: austin | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Read Michael Kinley's article to see just how much Palin "get's" about average Americans..

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839724,00.html

Alaska is, in essence, an adjunct member of OPEC. It has four different taxes on oil, which produce more than 89% of the state's unrestricted revenue. On average, three-quarters of the value of a barrel of oil is taken by the state government before that oil is permitted to leave the state. Alaska residents each get a yearly check for about $2,000 from oil revenues, plus an additional $1,200 pushed through by Palin last year to take advantage of rising oil prices. Any sympathy the governor of Alaska expresses for folks in the lower 48 who are suffering from high gas prices or can't afford to heat their homes is strictly crocodile tears.

As if it couldn't support itself, Alaska also ranks No. 1, year after year, in money it sucks in from Washington. In 2005 (the most recent figures), according to the Tax Foundation, Alaska ranked 18th in federal taxes paid per resident ($5,434) but first in federal spending received per resident ($13,950). Its ratio of federal spending received to federal taxes paid ranks third among the 50 states, and in the absolute amount it receives from Washington over and above the amount it sends to Washington, Alaska ranks No. 1.

Posted by: Paul S | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

You jackasses will vote for below average Sarah so you'll be able to say "look, the VP is someone just like me. Dumb and below average." You will get what you f#cking deserve!

Posted by: ScrewSarah | September 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Oh I am "the one"... or a supporter of it anyway.... I SO VIGOROUSLY LAY UPON THEE.... THE GUILT!! THE GUILT!!!

THOU SHALL NOT VOTE IN THE FREE COUNTRY FOR WHO THOU WANT, THOU SHALL VOTE TO REDEEM THYSELF FROM RACISM!!!

OMFG, that is so funny!!!! I'm rolling on the floor here.

No really, I'm going to break the glass ceiling baby!! Break baby BREAK IT!!!!

GO MCCAIN / PALIN 2008!!!

PALIN KICKS MORE BUTT THAN B.ody O.dor ever could!! Probably a way better bowler and is obviously a better fighter of corruption.

B.O. says McCain voted like Bush, well he's wrong, McCain/Sarah are Mavericks. B.O. is a puppet for Nanci Pelosi and Pastor Wright!!

Posted by: Ouch | September 10, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who would trust a poll taken by Fox News is a total friggin idiot.

Posted by: SarahSucks | September 10, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

C'mon now Mr. Obama, a slip of the lip, and you should GET FIRED!!

"Obama was the only presidential candidate that actually called for Imus's firing."

No DOUBLE STANDARDS allowed here buddy!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/obama-blasted-imus-but-w_b_45964.html

Posted by: Smoke Crack with B.O. | September 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Just think.

Even the Feminazis are going to benefit when Sarah Palin becomes the first Woman VP.

Oh and normal Women will benefit too of course.

Posted by: Gina | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

THE ONES WHO CLEARLY DON'T GET IT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE EVEN SLIGHTLY PUZZLED OR UPSET BY THIS GRAPH/POLL

Posted by: tojoley | September 10, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Liver:

At least half of our country agrees with you. The other half are either

1) Afraid of black people with "funny names" (my father-in-law is in this camp.)

2) People who would follow republicans over a cliff (he's also in this camp.)

3) Eager to get the Bible into government as much as possible (he's ALSO in this camp.)

4) Living in a fantasy world for the past 8 years.

I hate to be overly simplistic here, but most of the arguments from Republicans I've heard here and other places have been seriously lacking in substance. They've been mostly vaguely racial comments interspersed with words like "Dumbicrats!!". If someone voting for McCain could explain why his position on the issues is better in an intelligent manner, I would be happy to listen. Oh, and you cannot just say POW or MAVERICK.

And seriously, could someone explain how being liked by people in other countries is a NEGATIVE?? "Europeans like Obama! Boo!" Are we really trying the lone-wolf, cowboy approach to world diplomacy? If so, get ready for an "interesting" future (to put it lightly.)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Even Biden admits that Obama should have picked Hillary. Perhaps he's a chauvinist pig.

Posted by: Cliff | September 10, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I think it's the Styro-Pillars that changed my mind.

Open your eeys and see who's the real pig!!! It's Obama!!

Posted by: Cliff | September 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Palin and McCain belong to the oil companies.
The GOP is the Grand Oil Party.
Drill baby Drill.
They definnitely get that.

Posted by: M tobias | September 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

OOPS I posted the wrong link to Palin wolf killing video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T85cOGc8L0

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Gift to Illinois Farmers

Study: Ethanol may add to global warming
Updated 2/8/2008 5:52 PM | Comments350 | Recommend32 E-mail | Save | Print |



Fuel sold at an Ohio Department of Agriculture fuel station in 2006 was 85% ethanol, and 15% petroleum.


CONCENTRATED CO2





Study: Ethanol may add to global warming
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Enlarge File photo by Kiichiro Sato, AP

Fuel sold at an Ohio Department of Agriculture fuel station in 2006 was 85% ethanol, and 15% petroleum.


CONCENTRATED CO2





Yahoo! Buzz Digg Newsvine Reddit FacebookWhat's this?By H. Josef Hebert, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON — The widespread use of ethanol from corn could result in nearly twice the greenhouse gas emissions as the gasoline it would replace because of expected land-use changes, researchers concluded Thursday. The study challenges the rush to biofuels as a response to global warming.
The researchers said that past studies showing the benefits of ethanol in combating climate change have not taken into account almost certain changes in land use worldwide if ethanol from corn — and in the future from other feedstocks such as switchgrass — become a prized commodity.

"Using good cropland to expand biofuels will probably exacerbate global warming," concludes the study published in Science magazine.

The researchers said that farmers under economic pressure to produce biofuels will increasingly "plow up more forest or grasslands," releasing much of the carbon formerly stored in plants and soils through decomposition or fires. Globally, more grasslands and forests will be converted to growing the crops to replace the loss of grains when U.S. farmers convert land to biofuels, the study said.

The Renewable Fuels Association, which represents ethanol producers, called the researchers' view of land-use changes "simplistic" and said the study "fails to put the issue in context."

FIND MORE STORIES IN: Congress | Princeton University | Thursday
"Assigning the blame for rainforest deforestation and grassland conversion to agriculture solely on the renewable fuels industry ignores key factors that play a greater role," said Bob Dinneen, the association's president.

There has been a rush to developing biofuels, especially ethanol from corn and cellulosic feedstock such as switchgrass and wood chips, as a substitute for gasoline. President Bush signed energy legislation in December that mandates a six-fold increase in ethanol use as a fuel to 36 billion gallons a year by 2022, calling the requirement key to weaning the nation from imported oil.

The new "green" fuel, whether made from corn or other feedstocks, has been widely promoted — both in Congress and by the White House — as a key to combating global warming. Burning it produces less carbon dioxide, the leading greenhouse gas, than the fossil fuels it will replace.

During the recent congressional debate over energy legislation, lawmakers frequently cited estimates that corn-based ethanol produces 20% less greenhouse gases in production, transportation and use than gasoline, and that cellulosic ethanol has an even greater benefit of 70% less emissions.

The study released Thursday by researchers affiliated with Princeton University and a number of other institutions maintains that these analyses "were one-sided" and counted the carbon benefits of using land for biofuels but not the carbon costs of diverting land from its existing uses.

"The other studies missed a key factor that everyone agrees should have been included, the land use changes that actually are going to increase greenhouse gas emissions," said Tim Searchinger, a research scholar at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and lead author of the study.

The study said that after taking into account expected worldwide land-use changes, corn-based ethanol, instead of reducing greenhouse gases by 20%, will increases it by 93% compared to using gasoline over a 30-year period. Biofuels from switchgrass, if they replace croplands and other carbon-absorbing lands, would result in 50% more greenhouse gas emissions, the researchers concluded.


By H. Josef Hebert, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON — The widespread use of ethanol from corn could result in nearly twice the greenhouse gas emissions as the gasoline it would replace because of expected land-use changes, researchers concluded Thursday. The study challenges the rush to biofuels as a response to global warming.
The researchers said that past studies showing the benefits of ethanol in combating climate change have not taken into account almost certain changes in land use worldwide if ethanol from corn — and in the future from other feedstocks such as switchgrass — become a prized commodity.

"Using good cropland to expand biofuels will probably exacerbate global warming," concludes the study published in Science magazine.

The researchers said that farmers under economic pressure to produce biofuels will increasingly "plow up more forest or grasslands," releasing much of the carbon formerly stored in plants and soils through decomposition or fires. Globally, more grasslands and forests will be converted to growing the crops to replace the loss of grains when U.S. farmers convert land to biofuels, the study said.

The Renewable Fuels Association, which represents ethanol producers, called the researchers' view of land-use changes "simplistic" and said the study "fails to put the issue in context."

FIND MORE STORIES IN: Congress | Princeton University | Thursday
"Assigning the blame for rainforest deforestation and grassland conversion to agriculture solely on the renewable fuels industry ignores key factors that play a greater role," said Bob Dinneen, the association's president.

There has been a rush to developing biofuels, especially ethanol from corn and cellulosic feedstock such as switchgrass and wood chips, as a substitute for gasoline. President Bush signed energy legislation in December that mandates a six-fold increase in ethanol use as a fuel to 36 billion gallons a year by 2022, calling the requirement key to weaning the nation from imported oil.

The new "green" fuel, whether made from corn or other feedstocks, has been widely promoted — both in Congress and by the White House — as a key to combating global warming. Burning it produces less carbon dioxide, the leading greenhouse gas, than the fossil fuels it will replace.

During the recent congressional debate over energy legislation, lawmakers frequently cited estimates that corn-based ethanol produces 20% less greenhouse gases in production, transportation and use than gasoline, and that cellulosic ethanol has an even greater benefit of 70% less emissions.

The study released Thursday by researchers affiliated with Princeton University and a number of other institutions maintains that these analyses "were one-sided" and counted the carbon benefits of using land for biofuels but not the carbon costs of diverting land from its existing uses.

"The other studies missed a key factor that everyone agrees should have been included, the land use changes that actually are going to increase greenhouse gas emissions," said Tim Searchinger, a research scholar at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and lead author of the study.

The study said that after taking into account expected worldwide land-use changes, corn-based ethanol, instead of reducing greenhouse gases by 20%, will increases it by 93% compared to using gasoline over a 30-year period. Biofuels from switchgrass, if they replace croplands and other carbon-absorbing lands, would result in 50% more greenhouse gas emissions, the researchers concluded.


Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

You know what she gets?
She gets the animal cruelty of the year award.

http://www.wsj.com/article/SB122100226859616967.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today

The aiereal slaughter of wolves is unsupportable and the award of $150,000 to the killers is really evil.

Posted by: M. Tobias | September 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

You have got to be kidding me! What people did they poll?!

This is why America is going down the tubes, too many stupid Americans. How messed up does the economy have to get for the stupid people to get it? How long does America have to waste resources to police and occupy Iraq and Afghanistan before stupid people get it?

As long as I have my two degrees and six-figure salary, I am not going to worry about the 50K and under crowd.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

DUH!

Sarah Palin is America.

She and her family represent exactly the same "value proposition" to America as FDR's selection of Harry Truman.

The only difference is that America is "energized" by Sarah because of a yearning for "one of us" in the White House.

Hillary found out that "people do care" and they "care deeply" about this nation. America loves Hillary because Hillary loves this country and it's people.

Sarah never thought in a million years that she would be in this position. But, given the opportunity to serve this nation... "She'll love this country with a servant's heart".

John McCain chose to run with Sarah for the most important reason of all. "Sarah truly gives a d***"! And America can "feel" it!

Message to Matt Damon... "Bite Me"!

After November 4th the only headline that America wants to see is... "Ms. Palin goes to Washington".

LOOKOUT SCUMBAGS! JOHN AND SARAH'S BRINGING A BROOM AND A MOP! And they'll be more than happy to show you how it works.

Posted by: Randy | September 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The point isn't whether or not she "gets it" the point is, why is she being used - to manipulate us and distract us from the real issue of this election!

Here is a very interesting read from an unusual and surprising religious perspective. I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 10, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Scott does indeed appear to be a McCain, and Palin paid for liar.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Scott--
You seem absolutely incapable of staying on subject. Yo spread propaganda like a locust swarm....and you're on every board you can get to.

Who's paying you?

Posted by: Marcus | September 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Do John McCain or conservative republicans respect the moral foundations of our country? The U.S. Constitution is abused by conservative republicans at every turn.

U.S. Constitution: Amendment I - Freedom of Religion
Because of conservative republicans, your tax dollars are funding religious groups you may not agree with. To add insult to injury, conservative appointed judges have ruled that you do not have a right to challenge this expenditure.

Amendment IV - Search and seizure
Under the guise of court action against abortion, Conservative republicans had John Ashcroft subpoena all the medical records of literally thousands of women like you and members of your family. Conservative republicans invade your privacy every day by browsing your email and phone records. Unfortunately for all of us, they don't appear to care about our U.S. constitution, and they certainly don't care about your privacy.

Amendment X - Powers of the States and People
John McCain and conservative republicans have tried consistently to overturn States Laws. They used your hard earned tax dollars to destroy the will of the people of Oregon, and the famous "Death with Dignity" law; they lost, but undoubtedly will try again. Conservative republicans and John McCain do not respect States Rights. If your state votes for something conservatives don't agree with they will use federal powers to overturn it regardless of how you and your fellow voters feel.

Amendment VIII - Cruel and Unusual punishment
Would you rather die, or support a government which supported and sanctioned torture? The founding fathers would rather have died. The founding fathers were proud to fight and die for our government: A government which specifically outlaws cruel and unusual punishment. Conservatives don't agree with this philosophy. Conservatives are at odds with our founding fathers on this score, and too many others to count.

John McCain and the conservative republicans have already gone too far in destroying the moral foundations of our country. I urge you to keep this in mind in the coming election as we rebuild our nation together by voting for Obama, who stated that in his first 100 days he would eliminate all of Bush's unconstitutional signing orders as a start.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Remember Issues People?

Two Embarrasingly indefensible Obama Issues-

1. Corn Ethanol
-leads to global warming using one unit of petroleum for every unit replaced
-raises food prices
-7x less efficient than sugar cane ethanol (which McCain favors)
(BUT great for Illinois farmers!)

2. Infant Protection Act

-Opposes medical attention for infants who survive LEGAL abortions, not making them illegal
-Obama lied about wording of the Illinois law, later admitting that it was the same wording as in the federal bill
**********
Obama- shows no shame in pandering to farmers and more radical than abortion advocates.

Comments Obama More Pro-Choice Than NARAL

HumanEvents.com

12/26/2006
Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) portrays himself as a thoughtful Democrat who carefully considers both sides of controversial issues, but his radical stance on abortion puts him further left on that issue than even NARAL Pro-Choice America.

In 2002, as an Illinois legislator, Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies that survived late-term abortions. That same year a similar federal law, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, was signed by President Bush. Only 15 members of the U.S. House opposed it, and it passed the Senate unanimously on a voice vote.

Both the Illinois and the federal bill sought equal treatment for babies who survived premature inducement for the purpose of abortion and wanted babies who were born prematurely and given live-saving medical attention.

When the federal bill was being debated, NARAL Pro-Choice America released a statement that said, “Consistent with our position last year, NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act ... floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.”

But Obama voted against this bill in the Illinois senate and killed it in committee. Twice, the Induced Infant Liability Act came up in the Judiciary Committee on which he served. At its first reading he voted “present.” At the second he voted “no.”

The bill was then referred to the senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired after the Illinois Senate went Democratic in 2003. As chairman, he never called the bill up for a vote.

Jill Stanek, a registered delivery-ward nurse who was the prime mover behind the legislation after she witnessed aborted babies’ being born alive and left to die, testified twice before Obama in support of the Induced Infant Liability Act bills. She also testified before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

Stanek told me her testimony “did not faze” Obama.

In the second hearing, Stanek said, “I brought pictures in and presented them to the committee of very premature babies from my neonatal resuscitation book from the American Pediatric Association, trying to show them unwanted babies were being cast aside. Babies the same age were being treated if they were wanted!”

“And those pictures didn’t faze him [Obama] at all,” she said.

At the end of the hearing, according to the official records of the Illinois State senate, Obama thanked Stanek for being “very clear and forthright,” but said his concern was that Stanek had suggested “doctors really don’t care about children who are being born with a reasonable prospect of life because they are so locked into their pro-abortion views that they would watch an infant that is viable die.” He told her, “That may be your assessment, and I don’t see any evidence of that. What we are doing here is to create one more burden on a woman and I can’t support that.”

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Do John McCain or conservative republicans respect the moral foundations of our country? The U.S. Constitution is abused by conservative republicans at every turn.

U.S. Constitution: Amendment I - Freedom of Religion
Because of conservative republicans, your tax dollars are funding religious groups you may not agree with. To add insult to injury, conservative appointed judges have ruled that you do not have a right to challenge this expenditure.

Amendment IV - Search and seizure
Under the guise of court action against abortion, Conservative republicans had John Ashcroft subpoena all the medical records of literally thousands of women like you and members of your family. Conservative republicans invade your privacy every day by browsing your email and phone records. Unfortunately for all of us, they don't appear to care about our U.S. constitution, and they certainly don't care about your privacy.

Amendment X - Powers of the States and People
John McCain and conservative republicans have tried consistently to overturn States Laws. They used your hard earned tax dollars to destroy the will of the people of Oregon, and the famous "Death with Dignity" law; they lost, but undoubtedly will try again. Conservative republicans and John McCain do not respect States Rights. If your state votes for something conservatives don't agree with they will use federal powers to overturn it regardless of how you and your fellow voters feel.

Amendment VIII - Cruel and Unusual punishment
Would you rather die, or support a government which supported and sanctioned torture? The founding fathers would rather have died. The founding fathers were proud to fight and die for our government: A government which specifically outlaws cruel and unusual punishment. Conservatives don't agree with this philosophy. Conservatives are at odds with our founding fathers on this score, and too many others to count.

John McCain and the conservative republicans have already gone too far in destroying the moral foundations of our country. I urge you to keep this in mind in the coming election as we rebuild our nation together by voting Democrat.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Clinging to my religion , I don't say this to attack you. The only job that absolutely has to be done is keep America on the number one drivers seat. The best do it by deplomacy. The worst, by war.

Bush has done NOTHING right. He couldn't have done more damage if he were a cold war Soviet. Adding in a 73 year old man and a beauty queen is making it worse, not better. Not maintaining, worse. these two are almost as incompitent as Bush. Neither understands economics. Neither tolerates MOST of America or any of it's core values.
Neither has any respect for the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

Neither gives a damn about you or me.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

So now the Washington Post uses fox news as a source???

I'm so confused and turned off, why doesn't the Washington Post just shoot their selves in the foot and call it a day.

Due to the source I'm never considering the Washington Post as a reliable source and more of a joke.

What happened, I thought this was a good news outlet??

Posted by: JW | September 10, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

Metaphorically Barney shot himself just about every way possible.

The inability of Obama to focus on the real foreign policy issues is a real issue. He is distracted by being offended by Sean Hannity (a real teddy bear compared to Putin). See it's like this:

The only job the Federal Government absolutely has to do right with no margin for error is to protect our shores.

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Holy cow people

IT WAS A FOX POLL. what did you expect....TRUTH!!!???

hahahhahaaaaa

Fox and truth in the same sentence .......hahahahaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: Marcus | September 10, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I am seriously terrified by the prospect of Palin as VP of our country. She stands for everything I am against and, from what I have read about her reign in Alaska, she appears to be deceitful, very mean spirited and refuses to consider any view points other than her own (another Bush cowboy type - my way or the highway) I am terrified by her neanderthal stance on global warming, gay rights, a woman’s right to choose and teaching creationism in the schools, among other things. I think any woman who supported Hillary (as I did) who even considers voting for a ticket with Palin on it cannot possibly believe in the principles for which Hillary has fought her entire adult life. I hope Hillary pushes this notion hard on the campaign trail to all her supporters.

Posted by: No Way No How Palin | September 10, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in the US, but believe me - the rest of the world is waiting in trepidation about the coming election, and the chance that this bible-thumping, human-rights-denying woman gets close to the big red button.

Your great country has become the most reviled in the world under the watch of Bush and Cheney, yet there are those posters here who would gladly see Palin - caste in their mould - continue that tradition.

The poll should have been "Who doesn't get it?", and the answer would be the GOP supporters.

I pray for a world where the US re-establishes itself with a reputation for human rights and dignity. That's only possible under Obama.

Posted by: Liver | September 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting to hear the issues:

You're welcome.

Clinging to my religion:

Barney never shot himself (or anyone else ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

This is scary. Does anyone really believe America can compete in the global economy of the 21st Century when one of our major political parties treats our presidential elections like a Reality TV show?


Seriously, the Republicans don't know how to fight or win wars; the Republicans don't know how to make economic policy; the Republicans don't know how to make sensible education policy; the Republicans don't know how to provide health care; and they certainly don't know how to steer us in the new green economy.

Americans will be better off when they realize that the Republican Party is headed by a bunch of incompetent idiots.

China is on the rise, and remember, they DON'T have a Republican Party...

Posted by: erik | September 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Of course she gets it she has five kids!!!

Posted by: Henry | September 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Jake D Thanks for the info! I thought we had more problems like the economy and our soldiers fighting a war based on lies. I guess I was wrong!

Posted by: Still waiting to hear the issues | September 10, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Remember Barney Fife and how he shot himself in the foot all the time? If Obama keeps shooting himself in the foot; we should take his bullets (pun intended) away.

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "A pig is a pig regardless of what you do to it. You can wash it up, clean it, spray it with perfume, or cologne, raise it up in a spoiled ELITIST ENVIRONMENT yet, it is still a pig. A pig can't help but stay in the mudd and roll around with the FILTH, the STENCH, and THE DUNG, AND the other pigs who live in the mudd. That is why pigs seem so comfrotable doing what only pigs do. Like a dog that eats it's own vomit is the pig to return and roll in the mudd with the STENCH, the FILTH, and the DUNG.

McCain/Palin swine THAT STAY CLOSE TO HOME"

Gee, if I hadn't made up my mind to forget Obama/Biden already, that post would have done it.

Any poster who can be that vile just makes me think that McCain/Palin will be best for the nation.

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

HDNet Breaking News:
Obama names Hillary as replacement VP.
Palin furious.

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama has been gone all of 3 months from that church, and now some Obama supporters want to dig into what a pastor at a church Sarah Palin hasn't attended in 6 YEARS might have said at one time.

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dbw,

Here's the difference, if you care. All of Obama's words and deeds demonstrate that he is an open-minded and tolerant person. He talks about both his racist white grandmother and his racist (not really racist, but maybe low on tolerance) black pastor, and he was able to see the world from both of their perspectives.

I won't say Palin is a loco as her Pentecostal church, but her words and deeds are in much closer step with that church than Obama's were with his pastor. If you are unable to see the distinction, it is because you just don't want to.

That having been said, I don't hold Palin's faith against her. I don't care what church a politician belongs to as long as they don't drag it into public policy. I have way better reasons than that for not wanting Palin anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, if she only had a gambling problem, one leg, and a tranny uncle, so we could house all the 'normal' problems of the populace in one person.

She's like the Mom character on the show Futurama.

She's so normal, it's not normal isn't it?

And why vote normal into office? we can get that normally, you know, with everyone around us.

She doesn't represent my small town, which is not full of people scared of big city folk and "simple" like a cartoon of real, normal people. Normal people aren't that normal Sarah, our problems aren't resume filler and we don't have safety nets. Republicans don't care for safety nets - normally.

Posted by: Iowa grant | September 10, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Democrats. You hate skirt is showing as usual.

Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 10, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

HDNet New Flash:
McCain / Palin campaign still laughing at Barack Obama's skinny legs and his choice for VP. Awaiting replacement for Joe 'Quitter' Biden.

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

You people are all freaking morons. Both parties suck. McCain sucks. Obama sucks. Pallin sucks. Biden...well...he sucks too.

Posted by: FedUP | September 10, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting to hear the issues:

They are the two most important DOMESTIC issues to me. Regardless, you were complaining about: "Who are these people that think Palin 'gets' it? How can anyone think she 'gets' it? She hasn't said anything yet. I've heard her give the same speech on no less than 5 different occasions and I still don't know anything." It's now, officially, not my fault that you don't know anything.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Typical Fox spin... take another look at the numbers.

Obama at 32% "gets it" just as much as Palin -- that 1% is a statistically insignificant difference.

But blare that headline louder... Layer on another coat of lipstick on the same Neocon voodoo-economics robber-baron pig agenda.

Posted by: Tyler | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM

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Their all full of it. These polls are rigged to the max. They think their media conditioning still works.

Posted by: HemiHead | September 10, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

With a three point margin of error, your headline could just have easily have read "Obama gets it." Or "Obama and Palin both get it." Or "Palin gets it...but so does Obama." I think you get the idea. Try unbiased reporting on for a change.

Posted by: dmh012 | September 10, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin should understand; she USED to be normal; maybe she still is; but what YOU ALL may be missing is that she will put you in prison or to death if you excercise choice?
Do you think the judges for the supreme court arn't in line for this?
THink again.
time for Dem scare tactics; this is for real.
no abortions, more bombing innocent civilians though; that's for SURE.

Posted by: ukeman | September 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama is sexist and he is learning the hard way the power of the female vote

All black candidates care about is the black vote. That's why they make lousy pols

Posted by: Obama is sexist | September 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

A ton of new polls today find good results for both campaigns, with McCain ahead in Missouri, Virginia, New Mexico while Obama leads in Michigan, New Hampshire. Full roundup here: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/09/10/both-parties-have-results-to-celebrate

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

In describing Palin's popularity a recent blogger recently quoted HL Mencken: "No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the American public". How can people be taken in by this lightweight from Alaska that has no history what so ever before the American public. It is like an American idol popularity contest- "Oh, she is so cute and so tough!". When women say they can relate to her because she is a hockey mom- does that mean that they themselves should be running for VP? Are they sodazzled by the media blitz? She has not uttered a single word in public that she has come up with on her own. Is the American public so poorly educated or so brainwashed that they cannot see who is on their side and who is making a mockery of the hard working public? People wake up, prove HL Mencken wrong. Reject the instant popularity of an unknown whose record is in fact a disgrace simply because she seems like a nice mom. Reject McCain for making a mockery of this election!

Posted by: jefflz | September 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Xander:

I think you missed the point. We've been hearing for months after a hastily arranged press conference how the Jeremiah Wright issue was put to bed. Obama quit the church. Issue over. No more need to ask questions, no need for fine non-partisan institutions like the Post to dig any deeper.

Obama has been gone all of 3 months from that church, and now some Obama supporters want to dig into what a pastor at a church Sarah Palin hasn't attended in 6 YEARS might have said at one time.

The point is, I don't think that's a road the Democrats will want to go down....because at the other end is sitting one Jeremiah Wright.

Posted by: dbw | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

While I perfectly understand the problems of everyday life in America, better than any candidate for president, I can assure you I will not be voting for myself. I don't believe I have the judgment, intelligence or training I am looking for in the President of the United States.

Posted by: zukermand | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Oh,,Sarah Palin gets it alright!

Posted by: HemiHead | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr Senator Demint:

I take great offense at your remarks:

"Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana."

I enjoy riding my bicycle on my city's wonderful bike pathes, as do so many other people that it is hard to ride on the pathes sometimes. Doesn't seem wasteful to me.
A peace muesuem, yes, I know repugs have a hard time with anything related to peace.
Baseball stadiums, by repugs own words, brings revenue into the area by attracting tourists, etc.
A vistors center in LA. Oh my, no, please don't spend money in THAT state.

Shall we continue:

"Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005."

Illinois is one of the most populist states in the nation, moron. Ever heard of Chicago, the third largest city in the US? What pet projects? Proof, sir, proof.

One question for ya buddy, how's that whole war thing going? How much "wasteful" spending we got going on there? Seems to me there would be PLENTY of money to go around if we weren't wasting our money in Iraq.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Posted by: Freedom for All | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious - Obama is so clearly shaken by his disintegrating campaign.

Obama is making us vote Repub for the first time.

Obama destroyed the Dem party - that will be his legacy.

Posted by: Obama killed the Dem party | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Typical Fox spin... take another look at the numbers.

Obama at 32% "gets it" just as much as Palin -- that 1% is a statistically insignificant difference.

But blare that headline louder... Layer on another coat of lipstick on the same Neocon voodoo-economics robber-baron pig agenda.

Posted by: Tyler | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

New Dem strategy Alert! Not Palin who's doing all the damage, it's Karl Rove.

Sarah Palin was killing them by being Sarah Palin, so they've decided to turn the focus on an old white guy. They better hope he's not up to the task. Maybe he even manipulated the strings and made them do it.

Maybe Karl Rove should be Prez. According to the Dems and lib bloggers, He seems to have things well in hand. We could use a little of that. I just hope that Putin and the rest of those who hate America are a shade dumber than Karl Rove, because they would sure make a jackass out of Obama in a hurry if the were as smart as Karl.

Fact is I think he did it to himself. Maybe there's a new strain of the Arkansas flue. Any word on that?

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

How many of you liberal women have had an abortion anyway?
What's the big deal.
If you are careless enough to get yourself pregnant endure the consequences.
Please pick another cause.

Posted by: Curious123 | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Jake D.. Is that how I'm supposed to decide who to vote for? Abortion and human embryonic stem-cell research? Are those the only 2 issues that plague America? Wow this is going to be easier than I thought!

Posted by: Still waiting to hear the issues | September 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Palin is giving Pit Bulls a bad name...She "gets it" just like all the ignorant, self-righteous, bible-thumping evangelicals in this country. They think they can tell the rest of us how to live. Make abortions illegal and they don't magically go away...you get thousands of deaths from back-alley abortions. Drugs didn't magically go away when we declared war on them...neither did "terror" for that matter. These are real issues we must deal with every day as a nation AS A WHOLE. Lets be realistic when it comes to solving these problems. "Drill baby drill" is not an energy policy. Republicans would do better with real policies than empty slogans. Oh, wait...no they wouldn't...their only appeal is to the lowest common denominator..Hockey Moms.

Posted by: Biddy | September 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS:
Biden Quits VP slot.
Obama to name replacement tonight.
Tune in to HDNet

Posted by: Mr. Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicans = Hate mongers, police state enforcers, will do anything to save a baby but when they hit 18 have no problem sending them off to die in an unjust war. Almost forgot to mention fiscal retards.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Republicans = Hate mongers, police state enforcers, will do anything to save a baby but when they hit 18 have no problem sending them off to die in an unjust war. Almost forgot to mention fiscal retards.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS::::
Biden Quits VP slot.
Obama to name replacement tonight.
Tune in to HDNet

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS::::
Biden Quits VP slot.
Obama to name replacement tonight.
Tune in to HDNet

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS:
Biden Quits VP slot.
Obama to name replacement tonight.
Tune in to HDNet

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Republicans = Hate mongers, police state enforcers, will do anything to save a baby but when they hit 18 have no problem sending them off to die in an unjust war. Almost forgot to mention fiscal retards.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

FOX NEWS SUBMITTED THIS OFFERING TO THE WASHINGTON POST. FOX NEWS......Fair and Balanced...False and Biased is more fitting. Sarah Palin Get's it? If you mean she get's the EVIL KARL ROVIAN CORPORATE MEDIA STYLE OF CAMPAIGNING. Yeah you're right.

LIES, LIES, LIES YEAH....thompson twins

THE RNC/GOP/MCAIN/PALIN BUSH/CHENEY POLITICS OF LIES, SMEARS, AND FEAR

DIVERSIONS, DISTRACTIONS AND LIES AND THE LYING LIARS THAT TELL THEM?

We now have 2 FOUL pig-stench worthy, RNC/GOP/BUSHMCCAIN LIE ADS ON THE INTERNET TO DISTRACT US from the simple facts like this one in NEWSWEEK..


Kpete's Journal Documenting the Atrocities
Newsweek Bombshell: Judge & Union Official: 'Wooten harassed+Children Abused' -by Palin's Family
Posted by kpete in General Discussion: Presidential
Tue Sep 09th 2008, 11:33 PM
'TROOPERGATE'
Warned by the Court

A judge repeatedly told Palin and family not to badmouth her sister's ex
By Mark Hosenball | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Sep 9, 2008 | Updated: 7:36 p.m. ET Sep 9, 2008


An Anchorage judge three years ago warned Sarah Palin and members of her family to stop "disparaging" the reputation of Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten, who at the time was undergoing a bitter separation and divorce from Palin's sister Molly.

Allegations that Palin, her husband Todd, and at least one top gubernatorial aide continued to vilify Wooten—after Palin became Alaska's governor and pressured state police officials to take action against him—are at the center of "Troopergate," a political and ethical controversy which has embroiled Palin's administration and is currently the subject of an official inquiry by a special investigator hired by the state legislature.

(Court records obtained by NEWSWEEK show that during the course of divorce hearings three years ago, Judge John Suddock heard testimony from an official of the Alaska State Troopers' union about how Sarah Palin—then a private citizen—and members of her family, including her father and daughter, lodged up to a dozen complaints against Wooten with the state police. The union official told the judge that he had never before been asked to appear as a divorce-case witness, that the union believed family complaints against Wooten were "not job-related," and that Wooten was being "harassed" by Palin and other family members.

Court documents show that Judge Suddock was disturbed by the alleged attacks by Palin and her family members on Wooten's behavior and character. "Disparaging will not be tolerated—it is a form of child abuse," the judge told a settlement hearing in October 2005, according to typed notes of the proceedings. The judge added: "Relatives cannot disparage either. If occurs the parent needs to set boundaries for their relatives."

more at:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140..

Hmmmmmmmmm.....These poeple have no INTEGRITY at all.

They both CLAIM to be BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIANS....which brings us to our HIGHPOINT. I'll just play DEVIL'S ADVOCATE if you will, One of the 7 deadliest sins in the Judeo-christian bible is LYING. Prvs. 6:16-19 The seven deadly sins. vrs 19 states, "a FALSE WITNESS who pours out LIES and a man/woman who stirs up DISSENSION among brothers (family).

CAN ANY
ONE POLITICAL PARTY BE PROVEN MORE CORRUPT AND DECIETFUL AS THE UNDONE REPUBLICAN PARTY???

Yet the majority of those who attest to Christ relentlessly support them. What is this saying about these Christians, their ability to discern right from wrong, to take up a balanced stance for Christ, to influence, those who their bible says they should influence ie the LOST, AND HELP IN THE SOCIETY?

If you elect CRIMINALS SUCH AS George W. Bush Richard Cheney, these CRIMINALS appoint EVIL MEN such as Karl Rove,
THESE people in turn use crooked politics to divide our rich from poor, destroy our middle class, pit black against white, latino against, white and black..... men against women ie SEXISM then as a result our nation suffers GREATLY THROUGH WAR AND OCCUPATION (based on lies) and then eight years later having prayed and asked your God why is our country turning in this direction why are these people using OUR VOTES AGAINST OUR BEST INTEREST???

Your Bible has another POWERFUL PHRASE to answer your questions and PRAYERS...'CONSIDER YOUR WAYS'...Week after week month after month you are taught the 'so-called ways of LOVE and GOD, yet you live, think, behave, and even vote CONTRARY to what it is you are supposed to be. RIGHTEOUS.


Over the last eight years where they (THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RNC/GOP), for the majority of that time WIELDED the power in both the Legislative and Judicial branches of Government AS well as the Presidency, what did they do? Where is our Nation today. Let's see Almost bankrupt, indebted to an enemy Communist China, quagmired in an OCCUPATION IN iRAQ, on the verge of an unsolicited war an OCCUPATION in Iran, looking as truthfully HYPOCRITICAL as our nation CURRENTLY IS, by accussing Russia of ROGUE activities in Georgia as though what we DID to IRAQ wasn't exactly the same thing, losing our middle class which has strunk under Bush/Cheney, by at least 40%, unemployment having begun to skyrocket..ETC. Sorry McSame/Carabou Barbie but we know the only thing that you guys think you get is

"Let's divert, character assassinate, and pretend to be hardcore christians, who love jesus but hate our nation."

A pig is a pig regardless of what you do to it. You can wash it up, clean it, spray it with perfume, or cologne, raise it up in a spoiled ELITIST ENVIRONMENT yet, it is still a pig. A pig can't help but stay in the mudd and roll around with the FILTH, the STENCH, and THE DUNG, AND the other pigs who live in the mudd. That is why pigs seem so comfrotable doing what only pigs do. Like a dog that eats it's own vomit is the pig to return and roll in the mudd with the STENCH, the FILTH, and the DUNG.

McCain/Palin swine THAT STAY CLOSE TO HOME

Posted by: need4trth | September 10, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Rene Lee:

Trust me, as much as Obama wishes he could run against Bush instead of McCain, the last thing Obama's camp will ever bring up is Bush's National Guard service. Biden refused to serve at all, taking 5 deferrments while McCain was being tortured in a Hanoi prison cell. No, unfortunately for us I don't believe Obama will be inviting any conversations about military service into the race....

Oh, and I'm guessing he'll probably avoid the "flip-flop" word too, seeing as how he is averaging about 2 flip-flops on major issues for each year he's been in office (read: public financing of his campaign, Cuba embargo, special interest contributions to campaigns, legalizing marijuana, etc)

Posted by: dbw | September 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

This just in:
Barack Obama, thin and bulimic, Biden very concerned.

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I not a piggy, I a pitbull...RAWR. Watch me push the big red button for Jesus. We all go kablooey and now I gonna go to heaven. I gonna go shoot aminals now and speak in tongues. Arglebargle.

Posted by: Sarah P. | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

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Since when was Fox news a reliable source of anything? Facist lying loosers. I'm not going to this website anymore since you've decided to cite Fox news as a reliable source

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Posted by: Yeah | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting to hear the issues:

She's against abortion and human embryonic stem-cell research.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Palin did kill the bridge to nowhere bill after supporting it, but still kept the federal funding for it in state. She saved the taxpayers 0 dollars, it just went to be spent in another manner for Alaska. I'm sure she had the librian gaurding that document fired as well. Maybe the personal chef of the previous gov. who was 'fired' yet he still gets paid to cook for her children under a different title. Don't believe the hype, she is no superstar. She is a politician.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I figured It out!!! "Small town values" are conformity without additional consideration. People sheep! just like Jesus says in the bible. I've never heard repugnicans scream words like "facts" and "history" with such fervor...Maybe they are are beginning to take education seriously. Until then republican friends,tow the line. Just like you did with the last presidential race.

Posted by: Educated | September 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Bipartisan ticket? I liked the old days when the VP was elected too and could come from either party. It looks like these tickets do not look good for the two old guys. Maybe Obama and Palin should debate. You know, if you get 4 people taking their licks at http://www.boppoll.com on the candidate of their choice at the same time, you can add 240 bops per minute. 10 people, 600 bops per minute. That is 36,000 an hour. Or here is another thought on the "Gets" it.

Obama/Palin or Palin/Obama '08

Posted by: mgultch | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Since when was FOX news a reliable source of anything.

Posted by: Yeah | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin "gets it?!?!?!" She's from the smallest state, and the only experience she has so far is working to funnel as much money to Wasilla and Alaska as humanly possible, and she understands??? Woweeee, just more proof that the Republican lie machine is out there in full force, b/c the people haven't actually read up on what Palin actually did w/ her years as mayor and governor.

Posted by: Mar | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

"Dear "Jesus":

Are you sure you want to bring up something a pastor from a church Sarah Palin hasn't attended in six years may have said?

Sincerely,
The pastor of the church Obama just quit three months ago after sitting for over 20 years in the pews.
"

If the GOP thinks its relevant to quote something that a former pastor of Obama said, then the same must be true of Palin. You can't ask for one thing and not expect it in return.

Posted by: Xander | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Both presidential candidates suck *ss!!!

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"Obama wants to raise payroll taxes, death taxes, corporate taxes, raise the minimum wage requirements."

Care to cite your sources on this? Because from what I understand, you're just perpetuating bald face lies and spins that the GOP is forcing down peoples throats. It's just like the issue at hand with the "kindergarden sex ed". The bill was for teaching young children about sexual predators, not sex education. But of course the GOP spun it in their own dispicable ways. Apparently McCain (who approved the message) doesn't think that children should be protected from sexual predators. Good to know.

Posted by: Xander | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Dear "Jesus":

Are you sure you want to bring up something a pastor from a church Sarah Palin hasn't attended in six years may have said?

Sincerely,
The pastor of the church Obama just quit three months ago after sitting for over 20 years in the pews.

Posted by: dbw | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I know most liberals can't think for themselves, but at least try to talk for yourself....

Posted by: dbw
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Well, they will never outdo you in stupidity - don't be so threatened..

Posted by: dbw = dumb but white. Ye can be Vice President, son!! | September 10, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Heil Palin!

Posted by: Repuke | September 10, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey Barry Obama-
This isn't "Change your name Change"...this isn't "bonehead move" change, this isn't " Joe changed his name for the author's name on his law school papers" change, this isn't "I attended the church for 20 years but didn't hear anything controversial" change,

THIS IS REAL-

From Today's Wall Street Journal!
Yes, Palin Did Stop That Bridge
By JIM DEMINT
September 10, 2008
"But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up." -- Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2008
In politics, words are cheap. What really counts are actions. Democrats and Republicans have talked about fiscal responsibility for years. In reality, both parties have a shameful record of wasting hundreds of billions of tax dollars on pork-barrel projects.
My Senate colleague Barack Obama is now attacking Gov. Sarah Palin over earmarks. Having worked with both John McCain and Mr. Obama on earmarks, and as a recovering earmarker myself, I can tell you that Mrs. Palin's leadership and record of reform stands well above that of Mr. Obama.
Let's compare.
Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."
Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.
Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.
Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.
Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.
When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.
Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, "Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin's antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state."
Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from pubic scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington.
Mr. Obama has shown little restraint on earmarks until this year, when he decided to co-sponsor an earmark moratorium authored by Mr. McCain and myself. Mr. Obama is vulnerable on this issue, and he knows it. That is why he is lashing out at Mrs. Palin and trying to hide his own record.
Mrs. Palin is one of the strongest antiearmark governors in America. If more governors around the country would do what she has done, we would be much closer to fixing our nation's fiscal problems than we are.
Mrs. Palin's record here is solid and inspiring. She will help Mr. McCain shut down the congressional favor factory, and she has a record to prove it. Actions mean something. You can't just make stuff up.
Mr. DeMint, a Republican, is a U.S. senator from South Carolina.

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Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse


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Wow, I guess Palin does get it., Despite all the scandals and the alledged affair, http://www.hotpres.com

She is more in touch with the American People. I guess people feel like she is one of us. The same way I felt about Huckabee. First commenter is right. Obama should of Picked Hillary. If he loses, It was his pride that cost him this election.

Theyre are rumors swirling that Sarah Palin may be Pregnant again? http://www.veeppeek.com How will that affect her VP spot??

I like Palin, I just wish it was a Huckabee/Palin ticket.
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Posted by: pastor123 | September 10, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Republickers = Hateful Facist Extremists

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Ironcomments:

You do realize that no one reads those long DNC talking points you paste in here, right? If you have something worthwhile to add, feel free to type it out. But quit pasting stuff from Wikipedia or wherever you are getting it. No one reads it.

I know most liberals can't think for themselves, but at least try to talk for yourself....

Posted by: dbw | September 10, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Tonight on HDNET:
Barack Obama, Where is he now?
Hawaii, Harvard, the US Senate, and Losing the Presidency because of a cute housewife from Alaska.

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

a Fox poll? - what reebo base did they call for the poll? And how weird is it that McCain gets 17% - they do know that it is McCain/Palin? And she gets it based on a 36 minute speech?

To the idiotmobile!!!!

Posted by: Goober, Fox news is a callin' fer ye! | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

DemocRATS = Losers, Racists, Sexists.

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Finally America is waking up and seeing that Obama has no relevant experience. What do you say about a guy who has written two personal memoirs - but no legislation - even as a STATE senator. He's a guy who has spent his entire career campaigning - but doing nothing.

This much is pure fact. Even if you want a change from the current administration - which most of us do - most americans don't want to pay more in taxes. Obama talks about the government taking care of its people. The best way to do that is to keep the government out of our lives. Obama wants to raise payroll taxes, death taxes, corporate taxes, raise the minimum wage requirements. Then, he complains about jobs moving overseas. GUESS WHY THEY'RE MOVING??
Because businesses have a hard time surviving when the tax rate in the US is so high.

The USA has never had a presidential candidate with as far liberal agendas as Obama, nor with a candidate with as little experience as Obama.

That's not change that most americans can risk. That's what Palin gets. She's a breath of fresh air.

Posted by: Tide has turned | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama seems to be by far the number one presidential candidate listed 32% compared to McCains 17%

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It is apparent that 33% of the American people sure don't "Get it" if they think Sarah Palin does. I feel very sad for America if we elect this team. John McCain is just George Bush in drag. And Sarah.....well..she certainly isn't what she appears to be on the surface either.

Posted by: Eraticus | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The people who thinks Palin gets it are the ones who are 40 and above middle aged men whose main pasttime is watching porn on the internet. They would rather see a succulent Palin strut her stuff than see our economy repaired, or our health improved. For them Palin is god sent since she is the only one among the 4 who is easy on the eyes.

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Posted by: curt | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Thats the problem with self center Republicans. Those who beileve in the end of days see it as the end of the world. They feel they will need to get as rich as possible before the end. The reality is that it will not be the end.

It will be the judgement!

All those who have used religion to justify their sins will be exposed. Those who are truly righteous will be rewarded. All of the soldiers, the peace activists, those who give to the homeless, real hard working Americans, everyone who has tried as hard as they can to do right will have a place in the future.

Posted by: Jesus | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

"EVERY American is "wealthy" compared to non-Americans -- in addition, we are blessed beyond earthly rewards for being a Christian nation -- nonetheless, she has the lowest "net worth" as compared to McCain, Obama, and even Biden."

Well, considering I was speaking solely about Americans, not every nation in the world, she is by far more wealthy than the "middle class" that she tries to boast. And I would ask you not to refer to America as a Christian nation, as it is a nation of many beliefs. If Palin gets into office, that may change, but until then us non-christians still hold dear to the Freedom of Religion.

Posted by: Xander | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

wallace noone knows for sure but honestly i am leaning to vote mccain but i still think obama will win!!

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama just lost the presidential election....

Posted by: Wallace | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a sell-out and exposed he is just a typical Republican politician by picking Palin. He picked her to appease his base and poach Hillary votes. Palin wasn’t the best or most qualified, it’s because he knew she would be popular. How is that being a "maverick"? How is it ‘Country First”? How is this “I rather win a war than loose an election”? Lipstick on a pig, is still a pig. I’ll say it again, John McCain is a sell-out.

The most important metric for picking a VP is they are ready to step in from day one. His judgment is reckless and he gambled at our expense. The mere fact Palin is being educated on foreign policy and is avoiding the press indicates she wasn’t prepared on day one. She is running for the second highest office, but can’t answer questions from the press or public? This doesn’t alarm anyone?

I lost all my respect for John McCain. He's not the hero today he was 35 years ago. McCain is nothing without Palin.

What does it say about a campaign that has to "mimic" what and who Obama is, not to mention hijack Obamas core message of Change from day one just to poach votes? Is that all they view Obama as, a "product" a "formula", a “personality”? It makes McCain look weak and more importantly, the American people stupid if they fall for it.

Now all these puppets are willing to just get behind her without even knowing anything about her and try to convince the American public she is prepared to be VP or President? Not even uncertain objectiveness, caution, pause or question just because she has an "R" in front of her name? How can anyone make a clear determination reasonably in less than 60 days?

Bravo America! We look like complete idiots once again while the world watches. I am truly embarrassed of my country. I guess all isn’t lost, at least many will have Palin’s eye glass frames while our country crumbles economically. We are such tools.

British Prime Minister Backs Obama
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2008/09/brown-backs-oba.html

World wants Obama
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world


Posted by: Dana | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin understand's everyday problems like how to ban books, how to let your teenage daughter get pregnant and put her up in front of the nation for all the pro-lifers to get wet about. She understands how climate change works, and she isn't even a scientist, she really is amazing people! She is like the average person in that she has no idea what the vice president does. She is like the average person in that she has no problem telling you how to live your life in her image.

Posted by: Freedom for All | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain = SEXIST MOOSE

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Xander:

EVERY American is "wealthy" compared to non-Americans -- in addition, we are blessed beyond earthly rewards for being a Christian nation -- nonetheless, she has the lowest "net worth" as compared to McCain, Obama, and even Biden.

http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2008/08/palins-financial-disclosure-forms-on.html

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin will thankfully be the end for us.

Nukes will fly as soon as she can bring our beloved "End of Days" to be, so we can enjoy our afterlife in peace.

All you Obama supporters can stay behind and rot in your evil hell!

Posted by: FistOfGod | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Who are these people that think Palin 'gets' it? How can anyone think she 'gets' it? She hasn't said anything yet. I've heard her give the same speech on no less than 5 different occasions and I still don't know anything. I'm an Independant and all about voting for the best candidate, but so far I'm not hearing anything but insults. And HELLO! How is this news? Where are the articles about their platforms? I don't care if they GET our issues, I want to know how they are going to FIX our issues.

Posted by: Still waiting to hear the issues | September 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Palin does get it more than the others. Obama is a socialist elitist who is smarter and knows more than anyone. Biden has spent his whole life in politics and McCain is rich ( at least his wife is ).

So the poll is really about who really understands daily life in the real world. This shouldn't be shocking. The only shock is that it was so close between her and Obama.

I guess real life is getting a multi-million dollar home from a criminal for 1/10th the value. That happens to all of us every day. Having a strong friendship with a terrorist.. we all know one don't we?

Obama... change we can believe in...

WELCOME TO THE NEW SOVIET UNION OF THE USA

Posted by: TomB | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

the tone of the Obama campaign
has gone south.
An adult debate of issues
does not contain a grown
man calling his opponents 'liars!!!'
that is just childish,
and sad.
Let's get some use out of that Harvard
Education my tax dollars paid for!!!
Nobama08!

Posted by: usa3 | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse


OBAMA=SEXIST PIG

Posted by: julia | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I was for Hillary not because of pro-choice but because she has fought for people all her life! I am for mccain because he and palin have talked the talked and walked the walked.

homobama comes from chicago, where we all know how corrupt it is there and he never stood up to the politics as usual there, instead he became part of it and played the game to get into the US senate.

homobama voted PRESENT 130 times, this is very telling how this clown is willing to put the issues on the burner for political posturing.

homobama was a community organizer, if you look at the buildings in his district you will see he played the politics of the few and cared for none of the people in those buildings.

the media has totally lost their minds and they have created a clown and a circus to go with it! homobama is the disgrace in this RACE!

Posted by: muniz4hillarynowmccainpalin | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Fox News = Republican Propoganda

Why would any non-sheep believe their crap?

Please remove the wool from covering your eyes.

Posted by: Sally | September 10, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

These people make me sick. Sick!


Willfully lying to the American people because we should be less concerned with the truth and "little facts" than with the fact that Sarah Palin is a chick, and that's really hip and cool and new (if you're a Republican and you slept through 1984).


I suppose the absence of any WMD in Iraq is a "little fact."


I suppose Bush's AWOL years in the National Guard is a "little fact."


I suppose the substance of Cheney's secret meetings with the energy companies is a "little fact."


I suppose McCain's flip-flopping and lying on every position is a "little fact."


I suppose the (in)effectiveness of the surge is a "little fact."


Well, here's a great big fact:


They're still gonna lose in November!


Posted by: Rene Lee | September 10, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

News Flash:
Change in US Election law now allows for President and Vice-President to be determined by a wrestling match. Las Vegas odds:
Palin - 3:2
Obama - 4:1
Biden - 6:1
McCain- 2:1

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

ALERT!!!!!The washingtonpost.com is actually quoting an opinion poll offered by None other FOX NEWS????? lolololololol

fox attest in all the lying and spinning and even having non-other than two corrupt BLANTANT RACIST ANCHORMAN sean hannity and bubba gump aka bill o'rielly, as being FAIR AND BALANCED?????? Where??? Oh my God is the Washington Post vying for a posiotion with Rubert the pig Murdoch Monopoly.

Sarah Palin get's it?????? She and her friend McCain are wolves in sheeps clothing. They are inherenty tied , woven, into bush/cheney. SHE HAS LIED ON THE STUMP 90% OF THE TIME SINCE BEING CHOSEN BY THAT LIAR MCCAIN...she is MORE OF THE SAME....

Posted by: need4trh | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

If we start electing religious extremists for office, what will happen when the majority religion in the USA is no longer Christian?

Are you ready for Burkas and Religious Police? Its not so far off for america.

Posted by: Ron R | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

A wolf in sheep's clothing just gives me the blues.
One man yells "one" and other screams "two".
They step from the boat and wrestle for the oars
as the boat they just stepped from floats from the shore.

Posted by: | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Yes. Palin, who is a very wealthy individual, really "gets" the problems of everyday people. Right. People need to stop letting the media tell them what their views should be of people and do their own damn research.

Posted by: Xander | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Does it concern anyone that Sarah Palin is a believer of the end of days prophecy? Is this a person that should have her hands on our nuclear codes? We should all be terrified.

Here is summary and link to an article from The Times today:

At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh.

Pastor Ed Kalnins cites conflict in the Middle East, America’s dependence on foreign oil and the depletion of energy reserves as evidence that “storm clouds are gathering”. He told The Times: “Scripture specifically mentions oil instability as a sign of the Rapture. We’re seeing more and more oil wars. The contractions of the fulfilment of prophecies are getting tighter and tighter.”

He declined to set an exact date for the Rapture, or the “End of Days” – the belief in a time when Jesus will return, raising up believers to Heaven and leaving the wicked to be ruled by the Antichrist – but hopes it will be in his lifetime. “I’m looking out the window and I can see it’s going to rain,” he said. “I’m just looking at the turmoil of the world, Iraq, other places – everywhere people are fighting against Christ.”

Link to full article below:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4720440.ece

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

So 50% of the Republican ticket gets it! Only 42% of the Democrats.....hum.........

Posted by: cb | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Everyone calm down. The election is few weeks away. In 2008 Dems will have vengence for 2000, lose Popular Vote win the Electoral College.


Posted by: srikanth | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

This is a Fox News poll. Can anyone take it seriously. What was the last time you heard something positive about democrats on Fox news.

Anyways, all these conservatives are painting Obama as someone who secretly hates white people. Palin publicly hates gay people. She is a mascot for conformity in America. Palin is a self righteous, self serving, self centered person who is full of herself and cares little about others.

Posted by: Jesus | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah gets it!!! I want someone in the White House who understands what families are up against and has "common sense". I am sick of the "ivy league sense". Perhaps having someone who is a true "change" candidate is what we need. I have always been a democrat....but this time I am voting for the Republican ticket. I do not like what has happened to the democratic party. It needs to be fixed!!

Posted by: charlieb | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

America is the land of the free, not the land of religious extremists. We are becoming our own worst nightmare.

Obama 08!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The brilliance of the choice of Palin lies in how effectively it shuts down any rhetorical threads that might be used to oppose it, to wit:

"She's too young and experienced." Hmmm...maybe bringing up experience isn't such a good idea.

"She's popular because she's famous." Nope; that won't work.

"There's no way she would have been picked if she were a man." Got to pass on that one, too.

If Sarah Palin was indeed a "last minute" choice, you have to hand it to the old man: he has good judgement and is a stellar tactician.

Posted by: Obot | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Did they ask that at a Trailer Park somewhere?

Oh and "Robt", your drooling again! Foaming at the mouth is never attractive.

Posted by: Michael | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The GOP Election Strategy

Use Grade School Politics and Tabloid Propaganda. Use Emotional Hype and Stay on Message (regardless of the truth). Tell the followers what they want to hear. Keep your message simple define your opposition’s message. Always Blame the Media as Unfair. Relentlessly argue opposing facts until they become convoluted, then label the opposition as elitist and out of touch. After that, change the subject and blame someone. Always remember your voters are uninformed, usually focused on one issue and get their news from superficial TV. They don’t have time for in-depth discovery.

Using GOP logic, Palin is more qualified for open-heart surgery then VP. Palin’s credentials: She cut the heart out of a moose so she must be a great surgeon. The Republicans destroyed our economy. Don’t let Palin/McCain operate on America. We can’t afford it anymore.

Excellent deficit cartoon: http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/greenberg/archives/2008/08/deficits.html

Posted by: lol | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

This just in:
Barack Obama is the nerdiest man in America.

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The Simpsons said it best:

Fox News, your source for evil.

Posted by: Justin | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I will invade your privacy and tell you what morality you will follow. I sink lower than the average person and really dig deep to instill fear into your hearts and minds so I can live as I choose and begin the guidlines on how I will choose how your life will be lived.

Police State 08!

Posted by: Rethuglican | September 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans' policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies.

Republican deregulation brought about fraud in mortgage lending and dangerous financial instruments which have collapsed the housing market, leaving a million or more homeowners facing foreclosure. The financial system is in disarray and might collapse from insolvency.

The trade and budget deficits have exploded. The US trade deficit is larger than the combined trade deficits of every deficit country in the world.

The US can no longer finance its wars or its own government and relies on foreign loans to function day to day. To pay for its consumption, the US sells its existing assets--companies, real estate, toll roads, whatever it can offer--to foreigners.

Republicans have run roughshod over the US Constitution, Congress, the courts and civil liberties. Republicans have made it perfectly clear that they believe that our civil liberties make us unsafe--precisely the opposite view of our Founding Fathers. Yet, Republicans regard themselves as the Patriotic Party.

The Republicans have violated the Nuremberg prohibitions against war crimes, and they have violated the Geneva Conventions against torture and abuse of prisoners. Republican disregard for human rights ranks with that of history's great tyrants.

The Republicans have put in place the foundation for a police state, which they have no problem using against fellow citizens!

We must get the Republicans totally out of power, or we will have no country left for any of us!


Posted by: Franky | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

The RNC was one pathetic pep rally and tribute to Vietnam. We need a moose hunter why?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Blame, the plastic tarp strapped down over the wood pile, comes undone. Accusation is the butter knifed across the bread of this beautiful sunrise morning that goes unnoticed and unmentioned again. Go ahead, count your chickens before they're hacthed and drink Kentucky whiskey from a woman's desinger shoe saying, "I loved you before you loved yourself".

Plug this, plug that. You look mighty good in your brand new leopard skin pill box hat. Tell me, how does your head feel under something like that?

These are the roads they lead us down, honey. Now do you love me more for my good looks or my money? C'mon, everybody knows it all boils down to how far you can throw it. See as it sticks to your eyes and blinds you to turn on dime every time you drink you wine and call everyone else lazy.

Posted by: Walt Whitman's illegitimate great great great Grandson | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

For the record:
Barack Obama is the whitest man in America

Posted by: Dan Rather | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Are you people serious? How can you possibly believe this woman has a clue on how to run this country in a way that will provide opportunity and relief for the majority of Americans. In the first place, she has no reservations about lying about her record which will lead to more and more outrageous leadership disasters (look where all the lying has got us in the last 8 years). Are you all Evangelicals willing to sink your own future to make sure women don't have choice (new Supreme Court Justices will overturn Ror v. Wade) or gays won't have fundamental rights, or rape victims pay for their own rape kits (because after all they asked for it) to name a few of Palin's issues that must be driving this insanity? If this isn't what's motivating these ideas about her, then I am forced to disagree with Obama who gives credit to the American public for not being stupid. You are stupid, easily duped once again, and deserve what you get. The problem is the rest of us have to also suffer as we have been since you last had your say on leadership of this country.

Posted by: Timothy Crocker | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the senator of Illinois... which has a population 20 times greater than...Alaska. Get it straight in your head before you post such nonsense. If he's asking for $300 million in earmarks, that would be like McPainlin asking for a mere $10 million (20 times less) instead she asked for $200 MILLION LOL.

Posted by: Earmarks LOL | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

And what you liberals DO NOT GET is that most of America is sick of your lame, biased, hypocritical, liberal crap being shoved down our throats by media talking heads, Hollywood airheads, gay & lesbian perverts, welfare freeloaders, fat racists TV talk show host, ivory tower - never really did anything in their life "professors", and the rest of the moronic left who hide beside chat rooms spewing their vitriol when they have never accomplished a thing in their life.

NOW do you get it??????????

Posted by: robt | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

A governor is the closest thing to VP and P that this country has in its executive experience. Bill Clinton was just a governor when he got elected as P. I would say that Palin has the same qualifications as clinton did, don't hear the left barking up that tree!

BTW, Palin will be president for two terms after her VP stint under McCain. that means 12 years of hearing her name, so lefty's you might want to try and get used to it. Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: JR | September 10, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

This all makes for interesting conversation, but until the congress of the US is held accountable for their responsibility in managing the budget for the US government, who, Republican or Democrat, is chosen for President doesn't matter all that much.
Without budget control, no new energy or healthcare policy is possible.

Posted by: OKBYME | September 10, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Obot:

That would probably be the one person for VP who would have made be NOT vote for McCain ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The truth is PUMA is a misnomer to begin with. Any REAL Clinton supporter would never even consider voting for McSame. That's like trying to divide by zero, or voting against everything you believe in. If they claim to have switched sides, they are either paid McCain bloggers, or much less likely, they never really cared about what Hillary stands for, or the issues she champions. Should read: HSMA, Hillary Supporters My A(s)s.

Obama will win this election, but it will be close, because my feeling is that there are a LOT of closet racists out there who just won't vote for a black man, plain and simple. My very own grandmother is one of them, unfortunately. At least she is honest about it and has said that she doesn't want to see a black first lady. Most people just latch onto a complete lie (i.e. Muslim fabrication) they know to be false and use that as their "reasoning" to vote for more of the McSame.

Posted by: The Truth | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Superb example of why polls tell us nothing worthwhile.

'Understands'?! They might as well ahve asked who 'empathizes'. Or 'feels yoiu pain'. Ejits.

Do you really think all 900 people interpreted that question the same way? I expect some thought 'experiences'. Others thought 'can help solve' (closest to what we're elect people to do - solve, not jsut 'understand'). Some, 'Who's the most understanding?' which isn't the same thing at all.

Hang on - that was a Fox News poll. That's what they TRY to do.

Posted by: Tom J | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain should have picked Hillary

Posted by: Obot | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Republican candidates for the presidency can simply lie through their teeth, and it is a good thing, because the ability to affect the narrative via a repeated lie is much more useful than any possible blowback for telling that lie?


Then what do we have elections for? If I can simply stand up and say "so-and-so's tax policy will cost you all one million dollars each," when it won't, or "so-and-so is a supporter of infanticide," when he isn't, or "so-and-so wants to show your children dirty pictures," when it's not true, or "I was against this bad thing" when we've got freakin' film of you supporting it -- what's the point? It is impossible to have a democracy without informed voters, and it is impossible to have informed voters when you are going out of your way to lie to them.


Crooks. That's the only word for it. There's no noble or higher purpose here, there's nothing admirable about it, not even in the most brutal, Machiavellian sense. They're liars. They're crooks. It is taken as a Republican given that anything that can gain power is justifiable, regardless of how loathsome it is or how depraved the fabrication.


If we welcome open, direct lies into our political discourse, it's not political discourse anymore -- just the oratorical equivalent of an organized crime ring. McCain knows he can lie through his teeth and almost nobody will truly call him out on it -- at least, not compared to all the people who will hear the lie. That's been the strategy for every election involving the old Nixonites, from then until now, and there's no chance it's going to go away until there is a price to be paid for being a nationally televised liar. So when's that going to be?....Corporate Media, are you going to stick your heads in the sand and let the Rethuglicans lie to America again like you did on Iraq?


Posted by: Bush + McCain = "W"orthless | September 10, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I find it absolutely ludicris that the media is holding a double standard for Palin at the threats from the McCain campaign. McCain has shown his true colors, dodging issues and creating controversy while having Palin regurgitate the same speech that doesn't even connect with any issues. A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for further American ignorance. These people are advocating change? A change to what... the dark ages?!?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

EVERYTIME ANYONE questions sarah palin's experience or credentials, they make a rock solid case for mccain over B.O. - EVERTIME ANYONE makes an issue of sarah palin "receiving" 200 million in earmarks when Obama voted for 300 million in earmarks (for his home state alone) and mccain voted for ZERO in earmarks, then they prove beyond ALL doubt that MCCAIN is the BETTER candidate and the ONLY candidate for CHANGE. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IN SHORT, OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS THEMSELVES ARE PROVING BEYOND ALL DOUBT THAT MCCAIN IS THE BETTER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SO DO WHAT OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS ARE RECOMMENDING AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SAY NO TO B.O. AND B.S >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCCAIN-PALIN 2008

Posted by: tojoley | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"Obama should of Picked Hillary. If he loses, It was his pride that cost him this election."

If Obama had picked Clinton, you can take it to the bank that McSame would NOT have picked Palin. That kind of slapdash political gimmickry does not belong in office. If he rushes to judgment to choose his VP pick without all of the facts, you can bet he will rush to just about every other judgment he makes. We don't need another president that makes decisions solely based on his "gut instinct" ignoring the facts. We've seen where that gets us.

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Posted by: Hillary Supporter | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

WHY ARE THE REPUBLICANS KEEP SAYING OBAMA
SHOULD HAVE PICK HILLARY,WHY DON'T THEY SAY
MCCAIN SHOULD HAVE PICK CRAZY MITT,WE DEMS
ARE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION,I AM THE MAN
WHO SEEN TOMORROW! I PROMISE YOU WE GOT THIS GAME IN HAND! SO MCPAINLIN RELAX AND
THINK ABOUT WHAT WILL BE HER AND MCSENTILE
NEXT CAREER,AND AS FOR THE FAKE FOX POLL
WHAT DID YOU EXPECT THERE HQ. TO SAY IN
THAT HANNITY POLL. HUH! THAT OBAMA IS THE LEADER? BE FOR REAL.

CHANGE THAT FOX WILL NOT BELIEVE IN OK!

Posted by: HOUDINI | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

We stand a better chance seeing a Dallas Mavericks championship than an old hag and feminist chick who could care less about our needs as Americans. Do the math....oh wait...the math says we'll be at a $500 billion deficit. Thanks to Bushy!! The Democrats didn't leave him any debt..hmmmmm. I guess they'll blame it on 9-11 instead of a senseless war that has left us a ton of debt and broken families as a result needless casualties. Note to Washington....you made a wrong turn at Albuquerque. The real enemy is in a freakin cave in Afghanistan. Not Iraq!! America, educate yourselves prior to voting. You'll see exactly how absurd it is that this election is this close. Madness. Do your homework folks. An "F" will be destructive this time.

Posted by: douchbag | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

How can a person who makes 125,000 and can charge per diem for every day she's at home not working, understand the rest of us? Only because she's a mom? I don't think either candidate is in a position to really understand. If they had, they would be talking about poverty in American not just the middle class.

Posted by: Silvia | September 10, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin has been in the public mind for less than two weeks and 33% of people believe she 'gets it'? She has given the same speech (not written by her) 8 or 9 times, after being hand-picked by Karl Rove for the McCain campaign and she is a phenomenon how? I think 33% of the people polled don't 'get it'. Karl Rove just stole your vote again, America you deserve what you get.

Posted by: Brian K. | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Just shows that we Americans really are as stupid as the world says. If we elect yet another Republican after the last 8 years of complete disaster, we truly deserve to wallow in the McSame bed we make. If you want to send a message to the ruling party (Republicans) that they need to "reform" you DON'T freaking re-elect them. You kick them to the curb and vote for CHANGE.
CHANGE '08

Posted by: Josh | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

So what? For what purpose do we elect a President/Vice President? To "understand" our every day problems? Or to address nuclear proliferation, work with Congress to craft a new energy policy that doesn't meaninglessly repeat "drill, baby, drill," and to decide on a strategy to deal with Afghanistan, North Korea, and all of those other troublesome places?

My mom and my friends understand my personal problems. I don't want them to be president. American are very, very confused about the President's job description. Competence is mandatory for a President; folksiness isn't. The press and maybe even the voters seem to have it backwards.

Posted by: Jane | September 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I guess Palin does get it., Despite all the scandals and the alledged affair, http://www.hotpres.com

She is more in touch with the American People. I guess people feel like she is one of us. The same way I felt about Huckabee. First commenter is right. Obama should of Picked Hillary. If he loses, It was his pride that cost him this election.

Theyre are rumors swirling that Sarah Palin may be Pregnant again? http://www.veeppeek.com How will that affect her VP spot??

I like Palin, I just wish it was a Huckabee/Palin ticket.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

If Caribou Barbie is so offended over a common expression, how is she going to handle Al Qaeda?

If anything, McSame should be apologizing for his latest ad, mischaracterizing Senator Obama's program designed to protect kindergarten-aged children from sexual predators as "sex education for preschoolers". McBush is a liar and an adulterer, and Caribou Barbie is a pathological serial liar, a thief and a cheat. I don't want to hear any more bleating and whining from the Greedy Oil Party.

Posted by: Carol Harris | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I must have missed the interview/debate/website where Sarah Palin listed all of her opinions/views/solutions on all of the major issues currently concerning American citizens. If someone from the Republican party who supports McCain/Palin can point that information out to me, I would greatly appreciate it. My vote gets cast based on substance, not simply on whether or not the candidate wears lipstick.

In my opinion, if you switched your vote to McCain/Palin simply because of her speech at the RNC, you are un-American and shirking your civic responsibilities to make informed decisions.

Posted by: Matt | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Pamela:

I wish that Mother Sheehan could take Nancy Pelosi's seat!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Paid Anonymous idiot from Obama camp.A pep rally is what Obama all about.Emty talk.Chatterrbox

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Funny to see that McCain "gets it" the least of the two "presidential" candidates. People vote for the top of the ticket, not the VP sideshow act.

Posted by: Fox | September 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever,gridlocked legislature with only two parties for represtation,a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Mike: look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM and you will see what McCain said about Hillary. Nobody made any comments at that time, did they?

Posted by: lnt0065 | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Correction: No one

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

These post are what has become part of the problem of our society and what I mean is that we are so accustomed to information given to us in short snippets and one line sound bites that has become what is all we go on to make a decision and make knee-jerk reactions. No even takes time to make a well-formed opinion even if you disagree with a person.

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Bill are Hillary already know -- BHO is finished--he will never resurface again.

Posted by: mn | September 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

With a 3 point margin of error, this survey can easily be read to show that Americans trust that BOTH Obama and Palin "Get it".

Nice spin Fox.

Posted by: Ray | September 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

You say the republicans have ruined america.. the democrats/libs control the media.. I think you all are crying foul becauce McCain is acting like one of YOU and beating you at your OWN game... tell me where all of your cring out for womens rights and good education have gotten us.. be honest, oh yeah you can't do that

Posted by: tamara | September 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

That "pig" comment about Palin is the lower than the lowest point in Obama campain.We would never use the old saying "You can give a pen to a monkey intead of a banana but its still going to be a monkey"cause we are above that old style Obama politics.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

If people are ignorant enough to still vote for a candidate who they know does not understand their economic problems, then they definitely deserve the morons they get.

Posted by: Sophie | September 10, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Jon,

There is no statistically significant difference between Obama and Palin here. Indeed, Obama may just as well be the headline here--3 point MOE.

Why take Fox's inaccurate read on this data as the headline?

Posted by: Robert Hewson | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness more than half of the populace of this great country are educated, grounded, rational people that don't succumb to the leftist rantings. The people that live in the real world will vote McCain/Palin. And they will win handily. While the rabid left shouts louder. Stop and look around you. The tide has turned. These folks are for real, and yes Palin "gets it".

Posted by: John | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, the truth can not be explained in a sound bite. So I implore you to actually read for more than 2 seconds before giving up and thinking "this is way too many words I ever had to read in High school."

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Go Sarah? This is an important election, not a pep rally. What has Sarah Palin said or done that makes anybody thinks she gets it? We should hear her talk about specific positive ideas she has instead of negative criticism of Obama.

Voters: wake up and think about who you really want to vote for and why.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Did you ever see what a pit bull can do to a rag doll?

Richard

Posted by: ilex6251 | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

BLAME YOUR DEMOCRAT CONGRESS, Pelosi, they have squashed any effort to change things, even going on vacation instead of voting on energy bill that they know has a 70% backing of the American people. You want change? Mccain-Palin-08 with Pelosi kicked to the curb, just like Obama did to his poor white Grandma.

Posted by: Pamela | September 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Did you ever see what a pit bull can do to a rag doll?

Richard

Posted by: ilex6251 | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how those polled came to believe she "gets it".

I've been trying like the dickens to find out who she really is, what she knows, what her true qualifications might be, how well she might handle the job of THE PRESIDENT much less the Vice-President (which, by her own admission only a few short weeks ago, she didn't have a CLUE what a VP does!)....

So this "gets it" poll, and the fact she topped it over both Presidential candidates (embarrassingly by a huge margin over her own front-runner)... what is that popularity based on exactly? What have others observed that I can't seem to find?

Is it all based on the script written by McCain's speechwriter that she read off a tele-prompter verbatim (and has repeated almost word for word on the campaign trail since?). That isn't the "real deal" Sarah Palin, a measure of her qualifications, judgement, with the future of our country potentially in her hands.....

Have we gone crazy? The Presidency is NOT "American Idol"!! We need people who really, truly "get it". Who have the right temperament, who have been at least a little bit vetted?

"...if someone could explain to me exactly what a VP does..." tells me, she definitely doesn't get it!

Do I want "any mom" (or "any guy" for that matter) to be running this country? Qualifications be damned? My god.... wake up, America!!!

Yes, I'm freaking out simply imagining this person as our President. God help us all....


peace.

Posted by: blatherful | September 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

IronComments:

A little advice... If you can't say it in three sentences, keep editing until you can. No one wants to read your 1,439 word rant. Get to the point!

Posted by: David | September 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Its funny that McCain is now running as Obama.

What a Maverick! (Mavericks = clowns, right?)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Republicans: Look in the mirror and face up to where the country is now, vs where it was 8 years ago. What has gone well? We all must show that democracy works-- and vote for a big change. Our government, our country, and our people are at stake. This is not a pep rally. Get serious, think about the issues, and vote for a much better USA than what we've sunk into.

Posted by: WFA | September 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

John McSame picks an ethics challenged, pathological serial liar, creationist cheerleader (Palin) as his running-mate and now Palin won't talk to the press (and we all know why) yet she gets up and makes some dumbass speech everyday where she's calling out Democrats, Obama, Biden etc....and the freaking corporate media runs with it?!?!

Where the hell does she get off calling out ANYONE when she's to damn afraid of having to go off script (Charlie Gibson?...pleeeease) and answer some questions from the media? And there are a LOT of questions she needs to answer to...

I know in these tough economic times it's sometimes hard to remember how many houses you own but C'mon Corporate Media, Do Your Damn Job For Once!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: McCain = Bush's third term | September 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Why can't Palin speak for herself? Why does she keep hidden away? What are they afraid of her saying?

The more you know about Palin, the more scary it gets.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

To those of you that think the economy is bad now: You better wake up!…This is nothing, YET…

Don’t you understand how much worse it can get?…The current administration’s monetary policies, and other incompetence’s, have already set things in motion…Some of these problem’s may already be irreversible…The “clever” politicians in office will be able to hold it off, till after the election…

Don’t you know how much more of your net worth these fools could cause you to lose, not by just taxes?…Everyone has to pay…What you are doing by supporting them, could just make it WORSE for yourself, and everyone else, IF they get re-elected…

At least take a closer look, at what THEY made you think is so bad about Obama…

Good Luck, EVERYONE

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Which one among the FOUR Candidates has more Experience.
First we have to ask : What kind of Experience ?
Legislature Experiences :John McCain and Joe Biden and then Barack Hussein Obama. They all are Senators
Executive Experience : Sarah Palin . She was Mayor of a small town and is Governor of Alaska.

Am I right ? BHO supporters will say I am dead wrong ??!!

Posted by: Zien106 | September 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama's theme is Change.

Based on the projected tax increases for some, that is what they will have left in their pockets.

Posted by: Janeen | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Palin is straight out of the 18th century. This is just so sad for america.

Posted by: Sally | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

As the father of four with a full-time job and a wife who also works full-time. She doesn't get it! Children should never be replaced by work or a career. She made the decision to have a special needs child (a great decision) but she must now take responsibility and raise that child. Special needs children need to have their parents with them as much as possible. For many of us parents we take jobs with flexible hours where possible and limited travel so we can be there for the kids we decide to bring into this world. As VP who's time belongs to the American people as she must fulfill her oath to the country. That means putting the needs of our country ahead of her special needs child. For many of us the choices we make (such as having a special needs child) means we have fewer options in other parts of our life. She made her choice - neither our country or her newborn should pay for her choice. If she continues to run for VP at the expense of her newborn she only demonstrates how irresponsible she is. But then again she has financial options many of us don't. So explain to me exactly how she understands my situation.

Posted by: JWB | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRATS are SO SCARED of Sarah Palin!

Barack Hussein Obama does not know what to do! His campaign is imploding and he cannot stop it. Barack Hussein Obama is heading for a big loss in November.

Posted by: Former Democrat | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the ticket does not look good for the two old guys. Maybe Obama and Palin should debate. You know if you get 4 people taking their licks at http://www.boppoll.com on the candidate of their choice at the same time, you can add 240 bops per minute. 10 people, 600 bops per minute. That is 36,000 an hour. Or here is another thought on the "Gets" it. Obama/Palin or Palin/Obama '08

Posted by: mgultch | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh, my goodness, can you feel the genuine fear on the Left? They trot out the usual bogeymen of Cheney and Rove in a limp and futile attempt to prop up the most superficial and unqualified candidate in modern U.S. presidential history.

Obama wasn't even trusted with a leadership position within a Democratic Congress. His resume amounts to a pair of self-serving autobiographies and an uneventful career as a state rep and a murky time as a "community organizer."

He has no leadership experience, and he has done nothing more than recycle the same Democratic Party policy planks, repackaging them as his own. There's the same amount of "new" ideas in his campaign as there are unicorns. And his policies are the same that the electorate has rejected time and again.

Obama's looming defeat has less to do with the color of his skin than the stupidity of his politics and the moral bankruptcy of his borrowed ideas.

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

This is what Obama "gets" for being too threatened to select Hillary as VP.

Posted by: Dell | September 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

This poll really does not say much to me about what is the most important aspect of the election; leadership ability.

I can assure you that a homeless person here in America understands the rigors of a broader range of problems in American than Sarah Palin; but that does not say they ought to be on the ballot!

Coming from a sparsely populated, oil rich state does not give her any more insight than the average housewife in a metropolitan city.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The Southern Avenger got it right - Palin will be totally irrelevant just like the other conservative VPs who were under a more moderate (or liberal) President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBIN5kYCPOA

Posted by: huckme | September 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have destroyed America as we once knew our great country. We are now trillions in debt to foreigners, where we once had a huge surplus under Clinton. John McCain will be the death of us all if Americans are stupid enough to elect him based on these distractions and personal pot shots like people foolishly once listened to and voted for Bush when he campaigned on lies and smears like this. McCain is a two faced liar, he vowed not to run his campaign like this and here he is every day smearing away and ignoring the real issues we all now face because of McCain’s buddy Bush. In his very OWN words McCain voted OVER NINETY PER CENT of the time with Bush, what does that tell you people? are you McCain supporters really that dumb? seriously? you should all have the word SUCKER tattooed on your heads. Barack Obama is very intelligent and more than qualified to be President as he continues to prove every day with the way he handles these attacks. He has shown maturity, intelligence, toughness, love for country and that he actually seriously cares about the future of the American people and our needs in these unbearable economic times. Obama offers many solutions to our problems, McCain offers lies and attacks just like Bush did and still does. I have seen John McCain go from the maverick he once was years ago to just another lying, empty headed Neo Con just like the rest and Palin is no better. If anyone actually thinks these two money grabbing Neo Cons will bring healthy and prosperous change to the American people, to the working and middle class, they need their heads examined. Look at what they have to offer, it’s not at all what we need, not at all the kind of real solutions we need at a time when we are kicked and down after eight straight long and seriously damaging years of Republican corruption.. The Republican party lead by Bush is more responsible than anyone for the weakened and decimated state America is now in, rewarding them with four more years to do more damage would be like sticking the knife in our own backs. Remember this, Bush and Cheney are the same as McCain and Palin. John McCain recently in his own words on his close ties and relationship with Bush during the disastrous Bush years, John McCain — “The President has lead with great clarity and I think he’s done a great job leading the country don’t you all?” John McCain — “The President and I agree on most issues, there was a recent study that showed I voted with the President over 90% of the time, higher than even most of my Republican colleagues” You will regret your vote if you make the mistake of voting for the two liars McCain and Palin that claim to put ‘Country First’ instead of the American PEOPLE.

Obama / Biden All the Way!!

Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

You can put lipstick on a pit bull (Palin/McCain) but it won’t get you health care or a national energy policy or an economy that puts people to work.


No surprise here. More hypocracy and distortion.


Lying and whining are the only two things the Wingnuts are good at.
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever,gridlocked legislature with only two parties for represtation,a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Another piece of how Rovian politics and the ruling class keeps the idiots in check.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain-palin_distorts_our_finding.html

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I guess Palin does get it., Despite all the scandals and the alledged affair, http://www.hotpres.com

She is more in touch with the American People. I guess people feel like she is one of us. The same way I felt about Huckabee. First commenter is right. Obama should of Picked Hillary. If he loses, It was his pride that cost him this election.

Theyre are rumors swirling that Sarah Palin may be Pregnant again? http://www.veeppeek.com How will that affect her VP spot??

I like Palin, I just wish it was a Huckabee/Palin ticket.

Posted by: pastor123 | September 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

THIS POLL CRIES OUT FOR HILLARY TO REPLACE BIDEN...

...that is, if the Dems want to have a shot at winning this thing, with less than two months 'til Election Day.

That's the argument Bill Clinton may have been making to Obama over lunch today.

Biden would go along and withdraw for personal reasons because he's a good soldier who doesn't want to end up losing for a third time in Presidential politics.

And he gets Sec. of State or Supreme Court justice as a consolation prize.

Both Biden and Obama are political roadkill if they lose...

Think about it, Barack and Axelrod, think about it...

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever,gridlocked legislature with only two parties for represtation,a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

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