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President Bush Calls Obama and McCain

Updated 8:30 p.m.
By Michael Abramowitz
White House spokesman Tony Fratto said President Bush called Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama tonight around 7:30 pm. Bush and GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain also spoke this afternoon, and their staffs conferred afterwards, Fratto said.

The president has invited the bicameral and bipartisan leadership, and the two senators running for president, to the White House tomorrow "to work on driving to a bipartisan and timely solution."

Obama has agreed to attend the meeting.

"A few moments ago, President Bush called Senator Obama and asked him to attend a meeting in Washington tomorrow, which he agreed to do," Obama-Biden spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement. "Senator Obama has been working all week with leaders in Congress, Secretary Paulson, and Chairman Bernanke to improve this proposal, and he has said that he will continue to work in a bipartisan spirit and do whatever is necessary to come up with a final solution. He strongly believes the debate should go forward on Friday so that the American people can hear from their next President about how he will lead America forward at this defining moment for our country."

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 24, 2008; 8:29 PM ET
Categories:  Barack Obama , Economy , John McCain , White House  
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Cheney has already met with Republican House members, a few days ago, and according to reports was slapped down on the bailout "deal".

So what exactly does McCain hope to accomplish ?

Well lets see, get Obama out of Florida where he's been campaigning and starting to pull ahead, and attempting to halt Obama's momentum.

Desperate and pathetic...like so much of what masquerades as McCain's campaign these days.

Posted by: MA | September 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

This shows how close McCain and Bush are. First Obama calls MCCain with a joint statement offer 8:30 am. MCCAin does not return the call, but contact Bush instead. Then comes out a campaign suspension and back to DC, to work on a bill almost done and he admit he didnt read the 3 page proposal. Of course, he wants to delay the debate after Biden gave him a new orifice. Bush calls out Obama in his address to come to DC. Out of respect to the office of presidency, Obama accepts .Bush and McCain insult the American people with this saber rattling and immature , predictable games. Now, there is request by the MCCAin campaign to delay the VP delay. This is as transparent as my kid faking sick to stay home. This kind of deceit and behavior is unworthy of a presidential candidiate

Posted by: Charles | September 25, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Um, Dan,

It isn't a question about bi-partisanship, it is a question of McCain trying to inject himself into the negotiations beyond clearly enunciating what terms he feels or actually his economic advisers feel are vital.

McCain's answer is to lock everyone including himself and Obama in a room and hammer out a "deal". How can someone who admits his own lack of depth with economic issues do more than provide a distraction and bring anything but presidential politics to the table? McCain and Obama outlined the points which are important to them, what more should they really do until a proposal is finalized?

Let the negotiators draft the plan, McCain and Obama will be able to review it and say if they support it.

Good leadership does not always require a visceral reaction and leading a charge up San Juan hill. Sometimes it means delegation to people who know what they are doing and letting them get the job done without interference.

Posted by: von gerstner | September 25, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

ALERT - THEY HOPE WE'RE TOO DISTRACTED TO NOTICE!!

If the Senate fails to reauthorize E-Verify THIS WEEK before the session ends, the entire program will expire in November!

E-Verify has been touted by the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security as "...one of the nations best and most effective tools for ensuring a legal workforce." And according to the General Accountability Office, "E-Verify is 99.5% effect."

Senator Menendez (D-NJ) has placed a hold on the E-Verify bill and is trying to hijack it by insisting on an increase of over half a million visas for foreign workers next year.

"The E-Verify Program MUST be authorized before it expires in November if U.S. Citizens are to believe our Congress is serious at all about restoring the rule of law," per Senator Sessions.

E-Verify is one of the governments most successful programs targeting workplace enforcement of our immigration laws and is now in danger of being eliminated.

The federal government has breeched its Constitutionally required duty under Article IV, Section IV to protect citizens and states from foreign invasion, instead choosing to play politics with the law and mislabeling the invasion (of an estimated 12-20 million armed and unarmed Mexican citizens and another 4-8 million non-Mexicans) as merely unfortunate--ignoring the $300+ billion yearly impact on local and state governments and landslide of negative impacts on Americans.

The leaders of this Democratic Congress are hoping U.S. Citizens won't be paying much attention as they try to betray us yet again regarding enforcement of our immigration laws and using programs that work against illegal workers. They are hoping We are too busy with the Presidential election and the meltdown of our economy, which illegal immigration has contributed greatly to, as our lawmakers still continue to pander to corporate america.

Dash Nancy Pelosi and Senator Harry Reids hopes that Senator Robert Menendezs' attempts to block E-Verify will work! Menendez is putting his personal views ahead of our national interests.

CONTACT YOUR SENATORS NOW - TELL THEM TO AUTHORIZE E-VERIFY!

Posted by: calumonit | September 25, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Obama and the democrats are always talking about bipartisanship, but look at the way they acted and what they said yesterday. That is an example of how they define it. But there was more to it then their usual partisan diatribe.

What has Obama and them irked...was he had been talking to his cohorts in Washington, and as soon as a bill had passed...he and they would have issued a press release claiming Obama had been instrumental in the crafting and implementation of the most significant bipartisan effort in history.

You see, this plan was hatched to give cover to Obama during the news cycle after his poor performance at the upcoming debate. McCain is going to wipe the floor with him on foreign policy, and the democrats know it.

They had it timed to have the bill passed on Friday anyhow...so the next day, instead of reporting on Obama's dismal performance...they would be touting his aforementioned involvement in saving the economy. And we know the WP and NYT's would have responded in their typical lap dog way.

Too bad, McCain blew that plan right out of the political waters. The democrats tried to salvage as much of their plan as possible, by telling the media how involved Obama had been behind the scenes.

Personally, I am not buying it...I have seen that same Obama "dog and pony" show before. Like when he claimed:

"Now, in terms of knowing my commitments, you don't have to just look at my words, you can look at my deeds. Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill to call for divestment from Iran, as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon."

Problem is...he isn't even a member of the Senate Banking Committe...and yet it didn't keep him from claiming it was his committee and implying it was his bill.

You know, not everyone is dazzled by his words...some of have long know the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes.

Posted by: dan | September 25, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

McCain is done. Obama needs to be very careful and not get locked in a closet. This could be a trap.

http://www.boppoll.com

70,000 bops to go.

Posted by: This is nuts! | September 25, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Dissimulation consists of concealing the truth, or in the case of half-truths, concealing parts of the truth, like inconvenient or secret information. There are three dissimulation techniques: camouflage (blend into the background), disguise appearance (altering the model) and dazzle (obfuscate the model).

Posted by: vicbennettnet | September 25, 2008 6:44 AM | Report abuse

McCain Runs And Hides From His Past:

John McCain running from the debate with Barack Obama is unacceptable, and COWARDICE! There are over 350 members of congress to deal with the US economic collapse. And even more capital hill aids, advisers, and experts to deal with the economic catastrophe created by the corrupt Bush McCain presidency and the past republican controlled congress.

Every American, and TRUE! patriot needs to demand that John McCain debate Barack Obama and tell the American people how he is going to fix this economic catastrophe that he (John McCain), Bush, and the past Republican controlled congress created.

Contact the news media. Your local papers. And demand that they hold John McCain accountable to debate Barack Obama. Contact all your friends and ask them to do the same. Call your senators, and congressmen and tell them that you expect "Let Them Eat Cake" John McCain to debate Barack Obama on this economic catastrophe that John McCain and "Let Them Eat Cake" BUSH! created.

It's time to get ANGRY! America. Tell John McCain you want answers, and you want those answers NOW!

He can run. But he cant hide anymore.

What ever congress does to try and fix our stunning economic catastrophe needs to be done very carefully. Congress needs to take their time, and be sure of what they are doing. Whatever is done needs to be sharply focused at helping, and protecting the best interest of the ordinary Americans. In particular the vast American middle class. 700 billion dollars is a lot of the peoples money to spend to bail out a bunch of corrupt Bush loan sharks.

My fellow human beings, just as I warned you ahead of this catastrophic economic meltdown, I must now warn you that what is a head has the potential to be even more catastrophic than what we are going through now. The worlds geopolitical landscape has been booby trapped by the Bush McCain administration and their republican allies in congress. These booby traps are poised to spring at any time.

Fortunately the Worlds Nations have been blest with many excellent leaders (except the US) who have been careful, wise, strong, and self-restrained in dealing with the provocations, and antagonism's of the Bush, McCain administration.

Barack Obama and the democrats are your best hope now. Tell your family, friends, and everyone you know to support them as best you can, and vote for them like your life, and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. Because it does. You will not survive 4 more years of Bush McCain.

JACK SMITH - WORKING CLASS...

Posted by: jacksmith | September 25, 2008 6:27 AM | Report abuse

I've heard it said that you have crude, lite and sweet;
and then I've heard it saud you have crude, bur heavy and sour.

Being a afficianado of oil and fish I like to know,

Man I Like Fish!

Posted by: Lix | September 25, 2008 2:55 AM | Report abuse

This started in late 99. The Graham-leach-Bailey bill which was signed into law by Clinton. Charles Schumer was very happy with this bill because it allowed minorities the ability to buy homes. In 2003 when Secretary Snow asked congress to oversee Freddie and Fannie because of accounting scandals, Barney Frank said no there is nothing wrong with Freddie and Fannie. They blocked legislature. In 2005 Greenspan told congress that there is a fundamental problem with Freddie and Fannie and this could cost tax payers Billion. The Dems such as Dodd, Schumer and Obama ignored it. They wanted nothing to with it. They did not let the bill be discussed on the floor.
NOW we are left with these Idiots to fix this mess. WOW

Posted by: John | September 25, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

An evening call to the Whitehouse. Is the present occupant offering a bribe to the future occupant?

Posted by: Sparticus | September 25, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

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http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

you know you all sound stupid. This problem go's all the way back to cater. Clinton passed a stupid bill on it also.Bush just happen to be in office when it all fell apart. wouldn't have mattered who was in office. Bush tried to pass a bill to help this problem but the dem's blocked it.You can call the rep's name like little kids and call the dem's names like little kids but you know.. maybe the people who got them selfs so far above their heads are also to blame.There are problems on both sides.So stop complaining and let these people try and work it out so we can get back on our feet.who cares who called who first to go to work. They do work for us and they are both needed in D.C right now to do their job.sorry you Dem's think the world is full of dumb stupid rep that should stay home and watch the cartoons and sorry you rep think the dem's should stop spending their money.We are all Americans and we should start acting like it or there will not be a America to be Americans in. Name calling is for preschool not adults.Grow up.

Posted by: barry | September 25, 2008 1:16 AM

listen Barry uou lack nuance.

Obama can stand next to Paulson, and look loke he bolongs there.

Bush ans McCain would only beable to be bowing and craping servants to these two.

Its the heroes and un-notables tableuaea.

Do you know the paintings by Gerricult and Dell croix in that giant painting french historical gallery in the lourve.
It explains this all much better than you can and better than I can . Your take is so pedantic,However you would way out class Sean Hanniy- that hudeous fat kittke bartender on fox,

Lux-ln

Posted by: lux lumina | September 25, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

One of the prime players in this looting of the economy stands to not only profit from it but also advance to the presidency.

Washington neither needs or wants Obamas or McCains help in this matter. They have no place on the committees involved and with the exception of Obama in 2006 have not shown any interest previously.

McCain's erratic behavior cannot be rewarded. Instead close scrutiny should be applied to his motives.

Irrational and erratic behavior may be excused in the Senate but there is no place for in the White House.

Posted by: seems to me | September 25, 2008 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Hearing John McCain say he would fix the banking crisis is like hearing O.J. Simpson vow to find his wife’s killers after the trial.

Every one knew O.J. was guilty. His D.N.A. was all over the place.

Unlike the Keating Five, John McCain’s DNA is all over this financial mess.

Phil Gramm”s legislation removed regulations on banking that had worked since the last Great Depression.

Phil Gramm was responsible for the Enron Loophole.

Phil Gramm was McCain the deregulator’s close friend and advisor.

Phil Gramm said the country was full of whiners about the economy.

Some people whine that lack of oversight is the real problem and everybody should be held responsible,

Even the poor schmucks who bought these crooked home loans.

In reality, when McCain and Gramm opened the flood gates of greed and thievery , it became uncontrollable. It never should have been done in the first place.

Posted by: seems to me | September 25, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Bush, McCain, Rove still at it. Why would Bush go on national television & request the presence of Obama & McCain in Wash. tomorrow? Since McCain couldn't get Obama to be there, his 'boss' had to do it and now Rove is writing editorials online regarding how the two candidates should act at the debate that McCain so far isn't attending. If you haven't read "Shock Doctrine" I highly recommend a crash course before you vote.

Posted by: scarlet | September 25, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

you know you all sound stupid. This problem go's all the way back to cater. Clinton passed a stupid bill on it also.Bush just happen to be in office when it all fell apart. wouldn't have mattered who was in office. Bush tried to pass a bill to help this problem but the dem's blocked it.You can call the rep's name like little kids and call the dem's names like little kids but you know.. maybe the people who got them selfs so far above their heads are also to blame.There are problems on both sides.So stop complaining and let these people try and work it out so we can get back on our feet.who cares who called who first to go to work. They do work for us and they are both needed in D.C right now to do their job.sorry you Dem's think the world is full of dumb stupid rep that should stay home and watch the cartoons and sorry you rep think the dem's should stop spending their money.We are all Americans and we should start acting like it or there will not be a America to be Americans in. Name calling is for preschool not adults.Grow up.

Posted by: barry | September 25, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

DEAR GOD PLS SAVE US,
SAVE AMERICA,
BLESS THIS FREE LAND,

Posted by: ETH | September 25, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Figured I should clean this up its too importan:

Buddy,
Bush is an assho*e- it doesn"t mater, he fortunately has 
Paulson on his side, he;s the only one big and strong enough to deal withh the tidle wave thats acomen in- we have never been here before. Put your faith in Paulsen not GoD, and fogret thr petty envies there is no time for it,

Lux

Posted by: lux lumina | September 25, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

This is actually a great docudrama.

Posted by: Angel | September 25, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Bush demands that we quickly hand our money over to the banks, or they'll stop loaning and it'll cost us even more. Sounds like extortion to me.

We've already been paying the banks through the nose. Interest, principle et all. If we fail, we lose. In fact, the banks who now want us to bail them out will wreck the credit (and future) of anyone who fails to pay them. On time!

McCain rushes to Washington to hand our money over to the banks. He demands a solution for giving them our money by opening Monday. He insists Obama cancel everything to join him in handing our money over to the banks. It is that or risk destroying the economy!

This is a charade the republicans manufactured to get public backing for handing the money over to the banks.

We're in trouble whether they hand the money over or not. The problem won't be solved by giving the thieves more money. Fix the problem first. Regulate as if it were a national emergency! No corporate welfare!

Buddy, Bush is an assho*e- it doesn"t mater, he fortunate has
Paulson on his side, he;s the only one big and strong enough to deal withh the tile wave thats acomen. Put your faith in Paulsen not GoD, and foret thr petty envies theur is no time for it,
Lux

Posted by: lux lumina | September 25, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Alright, let's look at the facts. America has seen this before and has dealt with similar scenarios before (Savings and Loan Crisis?) But, American markets are extremely resiliant. It takes a lot to knock us down, and hasn't happened for over 80 years, and that was before the Fed and Treasury were involved. I agree with Biznaz (nice name by the way) that there are other solutions. The Sarbanes Oxley Act is overkill, but I understand why it's in place. I personally don't think things are as bad as the media makes them out to be. Remember, people like Suze Orman or Jim Cramer are ultimately entertainers, going for ratings or pushing their next book. Overreaction is what kills us. Eventually, the markets will start reflecting the economy, not the other way around. The fact is, outside of financials, most companies are high in liquidity and undervalued. Look at Warren Buffet, he's buying right now, and he's not stupid. When asked once how he became successful, his reply was, "I'm afraid when others are greedy, and greedy when others are afraid." Things are getting out of hand, and the media is just as much to blame as political parties. There is nothing wrong with thinking for yourselves and questioning solutions for their viability. Don't be blind and lead by the pack.

Posted by: McLovin | September 25, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

lux lumina

...and Odamnbama Obama is an econ major?

no, nO ,No- I was a physics and world literature major- but after I sold one art busisness at %#: I made out well on the fnanial markets just reading a little, and woring on line.
That 40 point -3 rd satdar eviation like Obama has helps a lot.

L know God, sadist at it is made a difficult world. And I can" teven spell, but I can think and learn its a big help
LUX

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Bush demands that we quickly hand our money over to the banks, or they'll stop loaning and it'll cost us even more. Sounds like extortion to me.

We've already been paying the banks through the nose. Interest, principle et all. If we fail, we lose. In fact, the banks who now want us to bail them out will wreck the credit (and future) of anyone who fails to pay them. On time!

McCain rushes to Washington to hand our money over to the banks. He demands a solution for giving them our money by opening Monday. He insists Obama cancel everything to join him in handing our money over to the banks. It is that or risk destroying the economy!

This is a charade the republicans manufactured to get public backing for handing the money over to the banks.

We're in trouble whether they hand the money over or not. The problem won't be solved by giving the thieves more money. Fix the problem first. Regulate as if it were a national emergency! No corporate welfare!

Posted by: Kevin Morgan | September 25, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

seems to me

hear, hear...

the US Congress is squarely to blame.

No 'bama can fix it.

Posted by: whaaaaatsuuuuuup | September 25, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

This is the second banking failure that McCain has been associated with. But, unlike the Savings and Loan collapse, this baby definitely has McCain's DNA.

The other partner is Phil Gramm.

Removal of banking regulations in place since the Great Depression - Phil Gramm.

The Enron Loophole - Phil Gramm.

McCain the deregulator's close friend and advisor - Phil Gramm.

So I don't want to hear any whining about lack of oversight.

The oversight was removing the barriers to unchecked greed and thievery in the first place.

Posted by: seems to me | September 25, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

lux lumina

...and Odamnbama Obama is an econ major?

Posted by: la luz | September 25, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Econ101

They were.

Posted by: Econ201 | September 25, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Ok,I think a lot of you are missing the point of the problem at hand. The blame game can be played later on, but right now we need to figure out how to get out of this situation. First of all, I think the bailout will work, but there are easier ways to accomplish this task then what is being offered. Why not temporarily suspend mark to the market accounting? This would allow a more capitalistic approach, which is what our country was founded upon. As someone in the finance business, (but not making millions of dollars on CMOs and the like), I think this guy here has the credentials and knowledge to at least consider his opinion.
Check out his interview on fox business news. His name is Brian Wesbury, and I would be interested to hear if anyone else thinks he has a viable solution.

Posted by: Biznaz | September 25, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

McCain, canceling the debate, reveals only that he is utterly unstable. The man is desperate. It was only last week that he said his usual bs about the fundamentals of the economy being strong. Suddenly he's saying we're hurling toward a depression, could come next Monday! Interesting that just yesterday, it came out that his campaign manager, Rick Davis, has been taking payola from Freddy Mac *up until last month* (After the campaign lied to say otherwise. And what was Davis paid for? For doing nothing but providing them access to their purchase, namely McCain himself). Interesting also that McCain cancels his campaign just as he takes a dive in the polls. And he surely doesn't want Obama in a key state like Florida, at a time of McCain weakness. What to do? What to do? Hmm, He's already used his Paris Hilton card; he's already chosen the least qualified female republican he can find for VP. What to do? Panic. Panic. Punt. Cancel the debate. (He can't multi-task, can't put aside time for a 90 minute debate on Friday night?) Another desperate weapon of mass distraction. This is getting absurd. And some of you want to put his unstable and panicky hands on the little red button? Letterman put it best: somebody's putting something in his metamucil! Too bad it's not a dose of sensibility and stability.

Posted by: patmac | September 25, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

"America's 1st Reaction -- Friday's McCain-Obama Debate Should Still Be Held On Friday, But Perhaps with New Focus: Immediately after John McCain's announcement at 3 pm ET today, Wednesday 09/24/08, that he was suspending his campaign and seeking to postpone Friday's scheduled presidential debate, SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 adults nationwide. Key findings:

A majority of Americans say the debate should be held on Friday. Just 10% say the debate should be postponed. A sizable percentage of Americans, 36%, think the focus of the debate should be modified to focus more on the economy. 3 of 4 Americans say the presidential campaigns should continue. Just 14% say the presidential campaigns should be suspended. If Friday's debate does not take place, 46% of Americans say that would be bad for America."

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

I know, I am an A@@ H@@@, but I like to heat things up on these blogs.....Tough, if you don't like it. BTW I'm voting for Mickey Mouse.

Posted by: Nobama | September 25, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

McCain has admitted he has no understanding. Of economics, he said so himself earlier a couple of months ago.]Therefore among the mob in Washington he can’t possibly have any useful roll to play.
He will be mobbed by with people who do know - not the senators for the moss part, allthought most of them have at least some understanding of the area of economics.
How can McCain who doubtlessly would have trouble defining a credit default swap be of use in the next couple of days in DC? They have janitors to clean the restrooms.
Certainly if Bernakee and Paulson are spotlights, and maybe some the bright congressional people like Barney Frank (the one Bush jokingly calls blow fish) are 100 watt bulbs.

Mc Cain is like a little birthday candle. He would be a lot more usefull demonstrating his woeful inadequacies in front of a hundred million Americans in a debate.
I doubt he wants to help, I think he just wants to hide.
thru the next couple of days- that’s a lot the easier than having to talk about the deleterious effect of credit swaps, and marked for market mortgage trenches in the glare of klieg lights with his 38 point IQ superior Barrack Obama,

Ah sad, sad little gray man McCain- god if the Vietcong hadn’t captured him, he be a retired mailman.
It s pity!
LUX

Posted by: lux lumina | September 25, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

"...all the people involved in this crash knew what was happening for several years."

Leart - take a night class in economics. If this were the case, insiders would have been shorting the failed stocks long before last week...

Posted by: Econ101 | September 25, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Bush inviting McCain and Obama to the White House is just a political trick to keep McCain from loosing "face" since Obama had rejected the idea. I was hoping Obama would reject Bush's invite to show disrespect, and some backbone.

If he goes he should just stay in the white house, have minor discussions for a few minutes, go back on the campaign trail, and let the discussions continue as they were doing earlier.

Keep one thing in mind, it's useless to have any meaningful discussions with the Bush Administration since they are the reason for the entire problem. The White House control all the Regulators, and this "Crash" is totally related to this administration policy of "starving the Beast", or draining the federal treasury during their time in office.

All they are doing now is just posturing, all the people involved in this crash knew what was happening for several years, but everybody were just cashing in, and they kept pushing the envelope.

leart

Posted by: leart | September 25, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

"America's 1st Reaction -- Friday's McCain-Obama Debate Should Still Be Held On Friday, But Perhaps with New Focus: Immediately after John McCain's announcement at 3 pm ET today, Wednesday 09/24/08, that he was suspending his campaign and seeking to postpone Friday's scheduled presidential debate, SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 adults nationwide. Key findings:

A majority of Americans say the debate should be held on Friday. Just 10% say the debate should be postponed. A sizable percentage of Americans, 36%, think the focus of the debate should be modified to focus more on the economy. 3 of 4 Americans say the presidential campaigns should continue. Just 14% say the presidential campaigns should be suspended. If Friday's debate does not take place, 46% of Americans say that would be bad for America."

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Such an interesting level of discourse from the McCain camp saying the Democrats forced the GSE's to lend to poor people through deregulation. Force is excercised through regulation. If there are no rules no one is forced to do anything. McCain treats us as if we are stupid. The Republicans controlled all three branches of government during the whole time this problem gestated.

Posted by: GCL | September 25, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Sept. 24, 2008


Senators

Please give careful consideration to your vote on the $700 billion bailout.

1. Paying full price for the market securities of credit and mortgages is not wise, based on the devaluation of these securities AFTER the bail-out.

2. The price of homes is falling, and will continue to do so, until they reach their ACTUAL market values. Buying homes at higher than the ACTUAL market value will only leave the government the option of running a fire sale to dump them. This will loose tax payer money.

3. The homes that the government is picking up under this bail-out are going to sit for quite some time before anything can be done about them. Meanwhile, they will fall into disrepair. Winter freeze will rupture pipes, they will become victims of vandalism, local municipalities will continue to loose taxes on the abandoned properties, etc. Look at the FHA listings, and you will see almost every home has problems from sitting empty.

An analogy would be, buying a basket of ripe peaches and having to either eat them right away or give them away before they spoil.

Make sure the bail-out plan protects against theses problems. Protect my tax dollars. Please.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Can't Obama organize a neighborhood or something on Friday evening? At least then his time wouldn't go to waste.

While Obama is leading a neighborhood, McCain will lead our nation.

Posted by: US Is Not A Community | September 25, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 11:34 PM

Is this 'Mark" guy for real?

Obama didn't have anything to do with the FM & FM issue in 2003. He wasn't elected to the Senate until 2004.

Get your facts straight McMark.

Posted by: germanguy | September 25, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey Jude...

Take a bitter attitude and make it better.

Reagan has been out of office for TWENTY YEARS. Clinton was in office nearly 1/2 of that time period - what the F are you talking about?

Let me guess, in addition to supporting tax and spend Obama - you probably think Carter was a great President as well.

Posted by: Nobama | September 25, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Can Bush get Obama to brief the UN on WMD in the evil empire? Oh wait, been there, did that. What is next?

Posted by: Fred Aiken | September 25, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

John in Montana - Friday's debate is on foreign policy, not the economy. Sorry to let the facts get in the way of your lame rant.

Posted by: Nobama | September 25, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Finally, the emperor's nakedness is acknowledged. We can now bury the Reaganomic farce.

Posted by: Jude | September 25, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

No drama Obama, no shock Barack says no special treatment for John McCain just because he is having a bad week and doesn't want to debate the economy. Instead, Obama is a real leader that says we can solve this problem and present our views to the American People. The next president of the United States needs to be able to both push legislation and make the case to the American People.

OBAMA 08, now more than ever.

... psst, it's the economy stupid.

Posted by: john in Montana | September 25, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

There should be no bailout. Obama is an idiot.

Posted by: Obama | September 25, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives Say "Told Ya So" on Obama-Ayers Connection

Conservative bloggers assert that Stanley Kurtz's latest column in the Wall Street Journal on Barack Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers is proof that Obama previously lied when he dismissed his relationship with Ayers. Kurtz writes that Obama and Ayers had a long working relationship—they were both affiliated with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a project that financed radical organizations and fed radical political thought to schoolchildren. Conservatives wonder what this says about Obama's idea of mainstream politics and whether the mainstream media will show any interest in the story.

Posted by: nobama just no | September 25, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

The concern is that Obama may bring up the Keating Five. The Keating Five were five United States Senators including John Mccain accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Posted by: Jake | September 25, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

For those who like facts, here are some.
The Bush administration has been stimulating the economy through low interest rates and a significant deficit--the one shown below is the "real" deficit, which includes things like
Social Security revenues being held in trust funds. There is no other way to goose the economy--$700B is the latest (big) drop in the bucket. When a Ponzi scheme collapses the scam artist asks for more money and promises things will turn around. But you can't keep up that way. Look at the numbers and decide which party should be held to account. I have an opinion--what's yours?

federal discount rate
http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/fedbog/dwb
2000 DEC 6.00
2001 JAN 5.52
2001 FEB 5.00
2001 MAR 4.81
2001 APR 4.28
2001 MAY 3.73
2001 JUN 3.47
2001 JUL 3.25
2001 AUG 3.16
2001 SEP 2.77
2001 OCT 2.02
2001 NOV 1.58
2001 DEC 1.33
2002 JAN 1.25


Starting series: Total Surplus or deficit(-)
http://www.nber.org/palmdata/indicators/federal.html#TotalSurplusordeficit(-)

1992 -290.3
1993 -255.1
1994 -203.2
1995 -164.0
1996 -107.4
1997 -21.9
1998 69.3
1999 125.6

2000 236.2
2001 128.2
2002 -157.8
2003 -377.6
2004 -412.7
2005 -318.3
2006 -248.2
2007 -162.0
2008 (estimates) -389.4
2009 (estimates) -481.8

Posted by: Joe Friday | September 25, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Obama be going down - I wonder if he can flip flop while debating himself?

b/t/w - I haven't heard a word from the Washington Post, NBC or CNN regarding, uh what's his name..oh yea, Biden's latest gaffe. President Roosevelt, on TV in 1929...three years before he was President and 25-yrs before widespread TV usage. Nice.

Posted by: nobama | September 25, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

s a Reagan Loving Democrat I am infuriated by this bailout of slick haired rolex wearing helicopter riding wall street loan sharks!

The only bailout should be for main street and the only bail those execs should see is a bail bond. There are already 41 separate investigations.

Lame Duck Bush/Paulson are trying to straightjacket and sink any discretionary spending for a future administration.

Rush Rush Pass Pass. Do not read the fine print. Just like the fine print on our mortgages. They want to waive the same false reports that got Kenneth Lay in the slammer.

Really the only fallout we are going to see is a drop in Manhatten real estate. These vultures will get a taste of what it is like to hold a depreciating asset at a high interest.

Bailout a bad business break, where a market correction finally trickles up the pain, my hero Ronald Reagan, God Bless His Soul, would switch back to being a Democrat.

Shame on anyone who falls for Bailout BS And we do not even get any equity!

No wonder Bush business, ZAPATA Off Shore Company, went bust.

These guys got us in this mess and they are the ones who are going to fix it...gimme a break, no gimme a tax break!irst, you always have a choice!

Second, irrational fear, is not how you run a business.

Seven days! They want a trillion dollars in seven days!

These guys are lameducks, both were heads of firms that eventually went belly up. Paulson was at Goldman Sachs, and laid the groundwork for their demise, with a bonus driven corporate culture. And frankly, let us not forget he was an asst. to Erlichman. I aint buying any of his Tricky Dick fear peddling and power-grabbing.

Let us look at the situation as businessmen.

Free market works. Sometimes it is painful.

You do not bailout the guys who made a fortune selling the american public, subprimes, which were masquerading as mortgages but really just thingly disguised loan sharks rates, that didn't kick in right away. .

If companies were greedy enough to sell to the public and stupid enough to think that interest would be able to be paid by ordinary Americans. They do not deserve to be in business. They deserve to be in jail.

That is why the FBI is investigating.

It was criminal what they did.

There will be new businesses to take their place.
Healthier stronger and wiser.

America will be stronger and better.

American families will have a brighter future.

A little pain, but as I said, it will concentrated in Manhatten real estate prices. They deserve a taste of their own medicine.

Posted by: zoim | September 25, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

if McCain's move was really country first and not political why didn't he talk privately with obama about moving the debates to a later date and then issue a joint statement instead of jumping the gun and challenging obama to follow him?

By challenging obama to move the debate, Obama was in a no win situation. Move the debate and look like a weak follower while McCain calls the shots or push for the debates to happen as planned and look like someone who doesn't care about the country.

Brilliant move on McCain's part lets just hope America is stupid enough to not see through it.

Posted by: hyper | September 25, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

McCain says that he has "suspended" his campaign for obvious reasons; but instead, he has "ABANDONED" it. Obama's actions have shown Americans that instead of "abandoning" us as McCain has, he will stick with us and stick up for us during this critical time. Thank you Obama!

Posted by: jackdana | September 25, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Why were not the VP candidates invited too?

Is Bush an idiot?

Posted by: Big Bob | September 24, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

The debate should be postponed.

John McCain looks like a President today.

In his announcement to temporarily suspend his Presidential campaign to return to Washington D.C. to work toward a bipartisan solution to the nation's economic situation, Sen. McCain is demonstrating what real leadership is.

John McCain is putting our country first and politics second. It's the right thing to do.

Sen. Barack Obama should follow Sen. McCain's lead

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Posted by: j | September 24, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing more terrifying to me than a McCain/Palin white house. I have complete faith in the Obama/Biden ticket. I just wanted to speak up.

Posted by: kismet517 | September 24, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama is a reasoned individual displaying a great temperament for being President of the United States. Senator Mc Same is going to have to replace his knee if he keeps jerking it this much. On Monday our fundamentals are strong today lets drop everything and run to Washington so we can distract America from the issues. Mc Grumpy want them to know that I am now down nine(9) points in the polls and my campaign manager has been taking $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac. Look the other way and don’t ask my running mate any questions while she is in the cocoon we are keeping her in. Senator Obama has on his economic team Warren Buffet, Robert Reich, Paul Volcker all great advisers. Obama can also walk and chew gum at the same time which Mr. Lets delay on the debate until some day when America is not focused on the economic crisis my Republican cronies created. Run to George W. Mc Same and then tell us how you are not exactly the same as him. You were against the AIG bailout and then for it, you blamed Obama for it all and now want to work with him. Take your meds you are getting frenetic and tough to keep up with what you believe. Your ruse today was another bad one and wont pull any wool over the American electorate. To recap Senator Obama is the by far better choice for our economy and our country. OBAMANOS! SI SE PUEDE! YES WE CAN AND WILL WIN IN November!

Posted by: Col Joseph Bento 101st Airborne | September 24, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Mark, the article you are linking to doesn't say what you say it says. STFU.

Posted by: Matt | September 24, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Mark the dems caused all this mess?

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama avoiding the 10 Debates McCain proposed? Is he scared of letting ordinary Americans ask him questions?

Obama sure stubbed his toe at Saddleback. I think he is afraid of McCain in a real world setting.

Obama's buddy Jim Johnson helped cause this whole economic mess. And when Chuck Hagel, Elizabeth Dole and John McCain, in 2005 proposed more oversight for Fannie Mae, Chris Dodd actively blocked it out in the open while Obama helped block it behind the scenes. And after the both Obama and Dodd took HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars from Fannie Mae. Ordinarily that would be considered a BRIBE! Both should go to jail.

Posted by: GeraldD | September 24, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama = People First
McCain = Military, err, Country First

Posted by: qwerty | September 24, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama wasn't concerned with debating McCain in the 10 to 12 Town Hall Settings McCain proposed. So why is it more important to debate now, when the economy is at risk?

McCain = Country First
Obama = Obama first

Looking back at EXACTLY who was responsible for this mess:

Jim Johnson, Chris Dodd, Barney Franks, Franklin Raines, and Jamie Gorelick.

Of Course Obama disagrees!

These people should go to jail for a VERY long time!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080918192128AAYGBsG

Posted by: GeraldD | September 24, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse


McCain/Palin = a bridge to nowhere

Republicans use WMD....Weapons of Mass DesTraction.

note: McCain flew to Washington to save the country...a distraction from his sagging nunmbers in the polls..............

The funcamentals of the economy is sound.....he said then retracted it....

Posted by: Center | September 24, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Tax wall street CEO's and big oil to the hilt, after all they are the biggest benefactors of the Iraq occupation. Time to give up on the repub economy.

Posted by: Miker | September 24, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats caused this mess.


In 2003, the Republicans wanted to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac... and the Democrats refused!


Here's the New York Times article from September 11, 2003.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1


There you have it.


Proof!


The Democrats DID NOT WANT to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.


Note the Barney Frank quote on page 2 of the article. It's very revealing!


It was the Democrats who pushed for this deregulation -- because the liberals feared that regulations placed on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac would deny home loans to poor minorities.


A vote for Obama in November is a vote for unprecedented financial DISASTER. You ain't seen nothing yet!


The Democrats caused this financial mess with their stupid deregulation of the mortgage industry via liberal policies of forcing lenders to lend to poor people who can't possibly pay back.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats caused this mess.


In 2003, the Republicans wanted to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac... and the Democrats refused!


Here's the New York Times article from September 11, 2003.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1


There you have it.


Proof!


The Democrats DID NOT WANT to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.


Note the Barney Frank quote on page 2 of the article. It's very revealing!


It was the Democrats who pushed for this deregulation -- because the liberals feared that regulations placed on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac would deny home loans to poor minorities.


A vote for Obama in November is a vote for unprecedented financial DISASTER. You ain't seen nothing yet!


The Democrats caused this financial mess with their stupid deregulation of the mortgage industry via liberal policies of forcing lenders to lend to poor people who can't possibly pay back.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a leader like Bush. He got us into this mess.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats caused this mess.


In 2003, the Republicans wanted to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac... and the Democrats refused!


Here's the New York Times article from September 11, 2003.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1


There you have it.


Proof!


The Democrats DID NOT WANT to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.


Note the Barney Frank quote on page 2 of the article. It's very revealing!


It was the Democrats who pushed for this deregulation -- because the liberals feared that regulations placed on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac would deny home loans to poor minorities.


A vote for Obama in November is a vote for unprecedented financial DISASTER. You ain't seen nothing yet!


The Democrats caused this financial mess with their stupid deregulation of the mortgage industry via liberal policies of forcing lenders to lend to poor people who can't possibly pay back.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

This whole thing is just another example of the Republicans screwing things up and the Democrats have to come around and attempt to fix it. I just hope the Republican haven't broken things so badly it can't be fixed.

Posted by: lynne | September 24, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

This is all about McC and getting this bill behind him so he can go back to talking about pigs and lipstick. Talking about the economy is the LAST thing McC wants anyone to be talking about. The committees have been working on this bill day and night for the last 5 days. Does McC believe than anyone but his base is thinking McC is riding in on his white horse to save the day?

Posted by: lynne | September 24, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Obama is hilarious!

Meanwhile, John McCain is busting through concrete walls in DC to fix the crisis.

Obama is a follower.

McCain is a leader.

Posted by: Obama said, "Call me if you need me, John" | September 24, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

> With all his sudden seemingly rash populist type moves, doesn't McCain remind you a bit of Hugo Chavez?

Just like the wage & price controls under Nixon, we always slide more towards Socialism under a Republican administration. This is because they take everything to ridiculous excess and then are stuck having to "Do something! ANYTHING!" to bail out their own political fortunes.

Posted by: JakeD | September 24, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

It is important for future presidents to get a feel for what being a president means and what the president is supposed to do - and the sort of workplace a president has. Bush was right to call both Mac and Bam to the Oval Office. McCain thinks he's putting country first, but what he's really doing is being a nudnik. Other than that, Obama has been making plenty of the smart suggestions, in spite of his lack of experience. It's not experience that makes the person, it's substance. Who's the empty suit, the nudnik or the person with ideas?

Posted by: ahjow | September 24, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse



Why so many hours from one call to the next, what is going on here?
There are people working on the bill, this will waste their time in finishing it.
Are we looking out for the country or helping the GPO?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

A famous Republican said: If you break it, you own it.

The Republicans (Bush/McCain etc) controlled the government for eight 8 years. They deregulated everything Reagan did not do.

The financial meltdown is the result of the Republican/Bush-McCain work in the dark.

There is no two about it: the Republicans got us into this mess. They now cry for help to save the country. Such immorality I can not fathom.

Now that things are getting hot, McCain is suspending his campaign. He will go to Washington to save the country!! What a hypocrite.

Posted by: Center | September 24, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

brock101

Yes McCain did spend $5,000.00 on make up artist

Posted by: chitown | September 24, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain is creating this whole distraction so that people won't find out about his 13 cars and 8 houses. But there are so many things McCain is trying to hide. For example, maybe McCain is worried that voters will learn about his involvement in the KEATING 5. Or wait, McCain could be worried that Sarah Palin isn't ready for her debate yet, so he's stalling for time. Or wait, I've got it - McCain is trying to distract people from his flip-flop on the regulation issue. Or maybe McCain is trying to distract people from his bad temper. Or okay, I've got it - McCain is trying to distract people from the fact that over 4,100 US soldiers have died in Iraq. No, I know - McCain is trying to hide the fact that his party is divided on this whole Bail-out move. Hmm, or here's another - McCain is trying to distract people from the fact that his WHOLE campaign is made of lobbyists. Perhaps, or maybe it's that McCain is trying to distract people from the fact that his GOP Chief of Staff Buse is actually Gay. Buse is Gay? That's a big no-no for the GOP. Or here's another - McCain is trying to distract people from his friendship with Bush. That's possible too. Anyway, whatever it is - I don't think the voters are gonna buy it. McCain is washed up.

Posted by: Allen6 | September 24, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

With all his sudden seemingly rash populist type moves, doesn't McCain remind you a bit of Hugo Chavez?

Posted by: robin | September 24, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain spent $5,500.00 on make up artist.

True or false.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Biden was actually partly correct - but he had a semantic slip of the tongue: Roosevelt was president in 1939, when he became the first president on TV (which he used for the purpose of opening the World's Fair in New York City). FDR did talk about the Depression numerous times on RADIO in the 1930s, but we have become so used to television that we have the occasional slip of the tongue on that matter.

Posted by: Ahjow | September 24, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

This is so bizzare.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Joe T,
Congress may not have all the information regarding who pulled the legs out from under our financial backbone hoping for a collapse.
With World Markets, comes world class conspiracy by enemies of this Nation.

Some information is only for ears in the Oval office.
Dodd is not a factor in a larger picture, if there is a larger act of war to consider.
Last time Bush had that particular look on his face, he was reading to kids in a school. Right?

Posted by: dottydo | September 24, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

That's right.

There is a deal worked out already, for all practical purposes. McCain and Bush look like (and maybe are) complete idiots, because they had no role whatsoever in reaching the agreement. Now, Bush and McCain are willing to destabilize congress and the markets, so they look like they are usefull! Let see if McCain is crazy enough not to show up for the debate!

Posted by: RegisUrgel | September 24, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain is:

Phony -- knows absolutely nothing about the economy and does not serve on any committee responsible for the bail-out

A granstanding do-nothing. Mr. Bipartisan has never been able to bring his own party along on his "bipartisan legislation." Now that he has morphed into a radical right wing anti-centrist, he has even less ability to do so (i.e. negative versus zero).

A coward. He's punkin out. Just like he collaborated with North Vietnamese.

Songbird rides again.

Posted by: mnjam | September 24, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just an empty suit. He is looking presidential someone said. He might be looking presidential but there is neither leadership nor substance under this glossy suit. After much pain and constipation Sen. Obama will report back to work that he was elected to do. Sen. Obama should take the leadership of the Democrat-led do-nothing Congress to deal with this problem. Earlier, Sen. Obama decided to avoid the leadership call and concentrate instead on his debate speech. That’s the leadership that we do not need. We do not need empty suits making empty speeches while missing in action. From now on, Sen. Obama should call Sen. McCain and ask him for his advice on how to proceed. Let’s get to work.

Posted by: Wiel | September 24, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Wingnuts are desperate. GOPhERs: YOUR PARTY IS A JOKE.

EPIC FAIL!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

____________________________________________________

Hello My name is Barrack Obama.

I won't tell you my middle name, I'm ashamed

My friends and family call me Barry, but I don't want to be called that either, sounds too much like my famous cousin the drug addicted former DC Mayor Marion Barry. I don't need to add another questionable character to my resume' It's already chock full of Hate America Tyrants, Terrorists, swindlers and crooks.

They call me B.O...... and I HAVE B.O. I want your vote so I can change America from the land of the free to the US of EU and join forces with my buddies Putin and Ahmadinejad in a new modern socialism.

Oh yeah, and while you're at it, would you drop off this empty suit at the cleaners? I keep coming home smelling like dog *hit after those campaign rallies where they worship me as the Messiah.

Do we really want a community organizer who has never been in charge of anything elected President of the United States?

NO THANKS!

__________________________________________

Posted by: LibScum expose' | September 24, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

it now appears that Bush was really just trying to save McCain's butt. he was going to show up in Washington with literally nothing to do, because the folks working on the bill can't even let him in the back room where all the work is being done because he's not been appointed to the bipartisan team working on it and it would be against all the rules to let him even in the room. Dodd, the chair of the committee, says Obama has talked to him many times over the last several days on the bailout, but he's never heard a peep from McCain.

McCain would have looked like a fool on the steps of the capital talking about who knows what while the deal was finalized inside, without any help from him, only hours after he will even manage to get there. what a joke.

Posted by: JoeT | September 24, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

antibush,

You seem to be a curious cat.....
If this was a financial attack perpetrated by a conspiracy of foreign investors on 911, then under the rules of Government, can the President suspend the election during times of war?

Posted by: dottydo | September 24, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Quack, quack, quack, if they want to stop a recession, then they must stop inflationary oil pricing. Join CODA now, hahahahahhaha.

Posted by: Mark W. | September 24, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

An odd request to be sure.

Is it possible that on 9-11 this year there was another assault on our financial backbone again?
The original act of war to destroy America, was nieve that our military and financial mights was not housed in a building.

If there was a plotted build up of investors who all pull out one day one hour one time, it could break the bank.

This is an excellent opportunity to NATIONALIZE our money, our land, our companies, and have America's people own the Nation again.

There is no finger to point in the Country really, if foreign conspiracy and an attack on our financial backbone is afoot.
FBI should probe who's money was in, and who's money withdrew enmasse.


Posted by: dottydo | September 24, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

There is a deal on the table both sides have aggreed on. Barney Frank and Paulson have worked out most of their differences already. Bush and McCain are just bystanders, and they hate that it is what the world see of them. So, they are trying all these gimmicks. At the end they are both huge losers anyway.

Posted by: RegisUrgel | September 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

It doesn’t make any sense at all!!!

Aren’t the elections important??! Can’t three men and a woman handle whats also important, the elections, and let the tens of thousands of others whose salaries we also pay take care of this financial crisis thing??!

Im not watching the financial crisis on TV, Im looking for the debates!!

Get it??! What about us voters??? We want to hear what you have to say, not run off like the sky is falling, or I will run off, too!!

Are you people in Washington so stupid that such division of labor cannot survive 48 hours??! You can’t spare two guys for 48 hours for the sake of us voters??! JC! What bozos you all are!

You want to say the country is really this close to imploding??! Even communist countries have better stability!! You stupid idiot politicians!!!

Posted by: theantibush | September 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

There is only one claimed in claimed. Nice post.

Posted by: TurdMan | September 24, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Stop repeating hannity talking points if william aires did what turd man claimed he would be in prison not teaching.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah enjoyed her first trip to New York City this week. If Senator McCain is not able to debate this Friday, I suggest that my Sarah be permitted to pitch hit.

Posted by: retireyoung | September 24, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Remember that country song after 9/11 titled have you forgotten. Leave McCain alone. He was a pow

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I was touched by that hug. Almost as much as when Obama was doing the same with William Aires

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

> In mid–1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse


I have a hunch that George W Bush used the White House as collateral for a subprime line of credit:

RATE- 10.99% variable
TERM- 30 years (at least)
MINIMUM PAYMENT- Less than the interest accrued, for now.
PURPOSE- Buy a condo in Dubai.
DISCLOSURE- The terms of this loan/line can be changed at any time, for any reason, and without notice. This loan/line is assumable.

Posted by: Nobody Listened | September 24, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

McCain could yell uncle.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Remember that photo where McCain his hugging Daddy Bush ? looking like he's crying for joy ?

that's what McCain has done again.

Posted by: ripley | September 24, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

McCain went and cried on Bushs' shoulder that he can't handle Fridays' debate and Obama wouldn't back down - So Bush with what little effect he has left call Obama FOR NOTHING back to Washington.

there is NOTHING McCain and Obama can do other than vote. they could watch it on CSpan !

A real leader would be able to debate and deal with this financial crisis.

McCain is no leader.

Posted by: ripley | September 24, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Well by the looks of Martin J's post, the libs are already recycling claims made earlier in this very same comments section. Guess that means no need to keep posting.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Even as a PoW, McCain had a silver-spoon in his mouth. Instead of torture he got medical treatment due to his Father's political status.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse


So Bush confers with McCain in the afternoon, their staff hold discussions, and then at 7:30 Obama is summoned. I guess they had to put on their Republican hats for a little while before they decided to put on their American hats.

A partisan conspiracy by McBush to use this crisis for their purposes. Awful!

Posted by: Martin J | September 24, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Tom

Sarah is a smart lady She attended five schools in six years. She even had an affair like clinton. He was a great President.

Posted by: con man | September 24, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Once again comments from both side are GREAT!
That said, The Neocons are done. The GOP for a short while. They wrecked too many things and the reason Obama is going to win. Too bad for them and too bad McCain is the nominee. Not what they wanted and only have themselves to blame.

Posted by: Congo Bongo | September 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure why we are having an election, after reading these cleverly constructed posts I have decided to petition to let Obama step in now.

Who's in? I know we can count on the staff at the Post to sign up.

Posted by: TheWaPostIsAwesome | September 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain was a pow he deserve the presidency.

Posted by: con man | September 24, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Always makes me laugh when they say Sara Palin is not qualified to be Vice Pres. when she has more executive experience then Obama who is running for Pres.

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Its hard to see what the big deal is here.

There is plenty of time to re-schedule the debate.

Worst case, they just have two debates. Two debates, three debates, whats the big deal? Obama could have had all the debates he wanted couldnt he have? if he had taken McCain up on his offer at the begining of the summer.

having the debate on the same day as the vote will just add presidential politics to the mix where it doesnt belong

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

On with the debates!

Let Joe Biden deal with the financial crises.

He learned a thing or two from the televised speech Roosevelt gave back in '29.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 24, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

On with the debates!

Let Joe Biden deal with the financial crises.

He learned a thing or two from the televised speech Roosevelt gave back in '29.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

This is an intrusion into the campaign by Bush, a subterfuge to try to throw Obama off, because McCain is tired and hurting and sliding in the polls and they just realized today that Palin doesn't have any idea what the hell she is talking about.

Posted by: majorteddy | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

He went from the fundamentals of the economy is strong to sarah parrot saying we could be headed toward another dust bowl era.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances that McCain will ask Governor Palin to substitute for him in Friday's debate? That would be very, very interesting.

Posted by: John Scanlon | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse


He's too old
+She's too unqualified
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=Catastrophic chaos

Posted by: General Cluster | September 24, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Actually I would like them to spend my money.

Posted by: anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Who is the president in this country? That would be George W. Bush. Whose party controlled the White House for all the past eight years and the Congress for most of that time? George W. Bush's party. Hello, knock, knock....anyone in there George? Why should McCain and Obama have to run cover for your sorry azz?? This problem happened on your watch, not theirs. It's your job to fix it and most of us taxpayers would like you to fix it without spending more of our money.

Posted by: Bob22003 | September 24, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

hey der Adrian Kounter,
Are you the male version of ann coulter.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

No seriously, The "Good Ole Boy" network is facing EXTINCTION and that is great.

There IS a plot by "THE MAN" and he is actually trying to keep YOU down.

So you need to get educated on the issues and VOTE!

Posted by: American71 | September 24, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Bigots how does it feel know to that obama will be the next POTUS

Posted by: old Mccain | September 24, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Just curious, does anyone read the drivel that the "reporters" at the Post write, or do they just come in and post the obligatory McSame (very clever, I say that because is has been used less then 100 times today on various Post comments) is bad Obama is good comment.

Posted by: TheWaPostIsAwesome | September 24, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

What a conglomeration of pure radical dumb ass's, after you guys elected sweet ol' bill twice!! it scares me to think someone paid for enough education for you to write on a ballot damn, do something with youselves, please before .......... who knows ?? Like Obama actually wins?

Posted by: Adrian Kounter | September 24, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Can't I just finish my waffle

Posted by: B. Obama | September 24, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Leave bush alone we haven't been attack since 9/11. He will go down as the best prez in american history.

McCain is a war hero he deserve the presidency.

Sarah palin is the smartest woman in the world.

Don't hate

Posted by: Con man | September 24, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

hey der anonymous,
You ain't really dat guy Micheal Scheurer? Cause dats what dat guy wrote when he wrote in pseudonymn der. I bought your book! Started to read it but i had to workout. Biceps.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Ohh, and there is no such thing as a liberal, it is not possible to have "no opinion" or "stand for nothing"

That just means that you have been taken care of so well that you see no need to apply any calories to taking care of yourself or your country.

I am not judgmental nor do i hate but i still served my time in the armed forces and participate in the furtherance of my community goals.

I vote, pay taxes, spend at small local businesses, ensure my children do not commit crimes and maintain a traditional American family.

and am still not a liberal.

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: American71 | September 24, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Nice political shenanigans ... Bush called McCain and Obama bcuz he wants to foist the decisions re the financial crisis on someone else so when this ill-conceived, ill-thought out, and ill-planned bailout fails, he can hide and hope the blame will fall somewhere else. Well it won't. This stunt also gives me the impression that Bush wants to stall the debate on behalf of McCain because McCain is that unprepared. How pathetic. The entire world is waiting - get on with it already! McCain has spent more time and resources talking about stalling the debate than it would actually take to have the debate! Trying to stall the debate under the guise of trying to deal with the financial crisis when we have been facing this crisis for 2 weeks is disgraceful and disingenuous.

Posted by: jomama | September 24, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Well, there goes the debates: Bush poked his head in the American public eye to break things up.

The screwing up of the elections is next.

Posted by: sketchpada | September 24, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

My simple question is: Where would that 'tax money' come from? I think that my question is naive, because it answers it self;'it comes from taxes'. That means simply that my taxes will increase and mushroom in the next few years. I do not have any credit history, and I'm forty years old, with clean criminal record, which breaks down to : I live within my means, and respect the law. I am expecting the same from my Federal government, and from every business I contact. If this deals goes through, I shall vote every current politician out of office, democrat or republican. I do not care anymore about this nonsense, I cannot live in a country that steals from the honest hard working so the crooks gets rich.

Posted by: Sam, Wisconsin | September 24, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Everybody is on to McSame. This guy really looks like the desperate old man that he is. Some one once said "By any means necessary" and McBush was listening.

Look out Obama. You could be walking into the biggest trap every set. A hasbeen invites you to the White House so a neverwas can still have a hope of being.

LOOK OUT OBAMAaaaaa......

Posted by: DougH1 | September 24, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

hey der stop da madness (ova heya),
you're like really freakin' me out ova heya. Makin' me feel like i'm havin' one a dem "acute psychotic episodes" or what not. Dis ain't no conspiracy or nuttin' right? McCain he got dem gerbil cheeks so he just don't wanna talk on friday cause he got all dem peanuts in der. Cause he saved em' der. In his cheeks.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I said it 5 to 6 years ago this was going to happen. I am frankly shocked that we let it go this far. Evidently impeachment is no longer a option. You voted for him twice, Now you get what you get for being a simple minded blind fool. I hope the gas in your hummer costs a fortune. When the poor get poorer no one cares .... when the rich get poorer everyone cries together>>>>> Wahhh booo F'N' Hoooooooooo. You made it now deal with it Frankenstein! Hope you own 5 houses that are empty and depreciating rich arrogant jackass! Vote Republican... It's cool... Pluss the trickle down will take hold soon. God are you all blind and stupid

Posted by: CC Baron!~ | September 24, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't going to vote for Obama until I saw a bumper sticker that said "Obama/Biden '08"

I... am... smart.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Bush told ZerObama to get to D.C. and get to work. ZerObama said, Can't I just finish my waffle.

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone considered why most liberals feel the need to write a book each time they post

Posted by: anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Funny how Bush calls McCain this afternoon but Obama this evening. Think that's enough time to suggest postponing the debate as a stall tactic? What a farse they are. Don't be fooled by this junk, yet some of you already are.

Posted by: Stop the Madness | September 24, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Shopping List:

Canned food
Long grain rice, in bulk
Various dried beans
Peanut butter
Cheese
Potable water

Note to self: purchase enough to last at least two weeks.

Posted by: General Cluster | September 24, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone considered that it benefits the Republican party to make it look like Obama is slow to react on this issue. In reality, back when Colin and most of the Bush cabinet quit several years ago (because they would not lie cheat or steal)the economy was a primary concern.

Do not be fooled by smoke OR mirrors. See through the fog, beyond the GAME.

Be objective and pragmatic. People will always take the path of least resistance and do what benefits them first. If They happen to be Politico then so be it but they will still obey this general rule.

The present power structure has failed you.

You have almost been left to your own devices. You can't imagine what that is really like, but trust me.., you don't want to find out.

VOTE!

The environment is close to fixing itself at our expense unless we use our technology to manage the changes.

Speak to a scientist at your local Uni. They have no reason to lie to you. Ask them to explain what is really going on.., LISTEN CAREFULLY.

As for the bail-out..,

The government will use YOUR tax dollars to purchase the property YOU lost, then SELL it back you at a later date for an as to yet agreed upon amount.

The bailout will not benefit Black, Latino, Native American, Female or OTHER like business owners. So who will it bail out?

I have had a failed business, I have lost a house, I come from nothing...and after I learned my lessons and educated myself, I made a multi-million dollar corporation that only employs Americans and does no importing and own everything I have in addition to paying every single employee I have more than Walmart Store Managers make along with FULL health benefits.

Maybe those "Special" companies that "Qualify" for the "Bail-Out" need to make it just like I did.

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

DOWN WITH THE MAN.


Posted by: American71 | September 24, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Well said anonymous, well said.

Posted by: Rob | September 24, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

We should stop all our financial assistance to other countries, middle east/isreal/africa and take care of our own people first!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

You could see here on Sean Hannity’s show, although too bad the Post didn’t get an interview, we could all use another ridiculously slanted article on how she is the next coming of Bush.

Posted by: TheWaPostIsAwesome | September 24, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

This just in:

Bush called Obama to request his presence. Obama asked him if he could just vote present instead.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I got a daughta ova heya and this whole teaching abstinence in da schools thing ova hey; I don't know. It seems like it worked good for Palin ova heya though. Her daughta I mean...She didn't need no contraception der.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

where is this 700Billion coming from CHINA?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

You people scare me - here we have the republicans walking away with the bank [$700+ billion dollars in case you haven't heard] and all you can do is talk this garbage. Get a life.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Stop the Madness | September 24, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

bush, reading from a teleprompter, explaining in words something that only his supporters could believe, but probably didn't understand, and the rest of us refusing to believe the boy who cried wolf even though we understand the problem. sad irony.

Posted by: mounty | September 24, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

My friends, this really makes me look good, talking about suspending my campaign to iron out the bail out, that because of my policy stances on deregulation led to this debacle in the first place. Tee hee! Now Barack has to show up too or he'll look bad. I am a really gutter snipe, my friends. Hey, all is fair in love and winning elections!

Posted by: JohnMcCain | September 24, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

hey, what about a woman's right ta choose ova heya? What about supreme court justices and how Palin is all crazy no women's right to choose no matta what ova heya?

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Ben Bernanke is ACTIVELY MANIPULATING the system right now to get this criminal bailout passed!!

This is a MUST SEE!!!!

Denninger for PRESIDENT!!!!!

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

Posted by: ajke | September 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Circus Monkey, all you have to do is look at her past performance.

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Watch your back, Barack. These Republican devils know full well that Herbert Hoover "queered" the Republican brand until 1952. Don't be deceived by them into making this a bi-partisan depression.

Posted by: Slim2 | September 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

GOD HELP US ALL! Does anyone know the score of the Mets game ?

Posted by: ROB | September 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

The presidency its so easy a caveman could do it. But not McCain.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse


McCain, he got those sexy thighs I could cannabalize.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:07 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Your mothers' are better. Trust me, I know.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Tom

how would we know? They won't even allow her to grant interviews. I'm sorry if she can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 24, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain, he got those sexy thighs I could cannabalize.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Grumpy McNasty and his endless bag of gimmicks!

National I.Q. test underway...

Posted by: George W. McLiar | September 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Wish we had Sarah Palin in office now. She would shake things up and get it done like she did in Alaska. Go Sarah Go.

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Bush, he got dem bedroom eyes. You could get lost in those eyes der.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

How does sarah palin look now? Stakes are too high.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I think that CEO's work hard for their money and deserve to be paid well.

Posted by: Ken Lay | September 24, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I don't know what everyone is so upset about - this is all part of the plan. What better way to realize the neoconservative dream of a small, weak government than to bankrupt it?

Leave it to the republicans to make one last grab at taxpayer money to redistribute it to the wealthy as they skip out the door.

Posted by: LincolnX | September 24, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

This is absolute bull manure.

McCain's campaign is one stunt after another. Now Georgie boy is playing his part. These stinking liars are trying to steal another election.

Yes, Wall Street is having a financial crisis. But "give me 700 billion, no questions asked, no answers given" is outrageous.

The debate should continue as planned. Good grief, they can spend 90 minutes in the hot seat facing the press and still do whatever needs to be done. This "I'm suspending my campaign is a cheap campaign stunt from someone who has no answers.

Here's another stunt: Sarah Palin. Palin should answer direct questions from the press. Enough of this "She's ready to be president but can't speak to the mean ol' press". How stupid does McCain think we are? Answer: Pretty freakin' stupid.

McCain's campaign is all about distracting us from the issues. Last week he said our economy was sound. Now he wants to dodge a debate.

Wake up folks. It's all a bunch of malarky. If this is the way McCain runs his campaign, one stunt after another, I can't imagine what 4 years of McCain/Palin in the White House would be like. It's beginning to look like it would be worse than Bush, which is unthinkable.

Posted by: Big Pete | September 24, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin new one liner

Paper or plastic?

Posted by: circus monkey | September 24, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I have lived in Europe. I think USA is still the greatest country in the world and we will prove it. Anyone who thinks different can leave. Don't let the door hit you in the a&& on the way out.

Posted by: James | September 24, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

These two links will help explain how billions will be handed over to towns and faith based initiatives via foreclosed homes. SHAMEFUL SHAM:

DOLLAR HOMES:
http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/reo/goodn/dhmabout.cfm

1999 FORECLOSURE ELECTRONIC SET UP
http://www.mersinc.org/Foreclosures/index.aspx

Check out your city newspaper where you will find Mortgage Electronic Registration System as the Foreclosure Trustee for
a lot of foreclosed properties.

wake up journalists. you are dropping the ball on this one.

Posted by: there isn't any anonomous anymore | September 24, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

hey catlova, you are right. der ain't no bad guys anymoa. ders just guys. but i'm sayin' Obama ain't gonna raise taxes for like the majority of people like me. let's say i make like ahhhh, 37,000 a yeah. jus fer computational purposes. obama, he sounds like my guy ya know tax wise. cause we got christmas and what not commin up heya.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

could someone change bush's diaper.

Posted by: circus monkey | September 24, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

It's hilarious how desperate McCain and the neo-cons are getting. Now that the Palin-factor has died down, all of a sudden this meeting is needed when it should have happened weeks if not years ago. Another stunt to bring fear into the hearts of Americans. At least this time we know for sure who is responsible, greedy, money-grubbing Republicans who have deregulated these financial institutions for their own gain. Thanks GOP, please go somewhere else and ruin another country. Let us rebuild our great country without your destructive influence.

Posted by: Haha | September 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

MOVE THE DEBATE TO DC!

or

Switch Biden and Palin...

Posted by: Donny | September 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed that most people do not understand the dangers the economy is in. It is not that important how we got here at the moment. I do not like the bail out, but if there is no money to lend, housing values will fall sharply. Not to mention that companies will not be able to borrow money.
Google Wall Street Crash of 1929, we must avoid this at all costs.

Posted by: Fitz | September 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain is toast.

Posted by: brock101 | September 24, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

A light from CBO! Bailout Could Be Bad for America?

Hey FBI, RESEARCH THIS - These are the rats I sniffed out!

THIS IS AN ASSET GRAB, and we are being asked to finance it.

Go here to read how foreclosed homes can be purchased by towns and faith
based non-profits for $1

http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/reo/goodn/dhmabout.cfm

Is the $700 Billion bundle really bad news? It probably has many duplicated assets.

The mortgage transfer orgasm happened electronically via MERS.

Mortgage Electronic Regisration Systems is the holder of many foreclosed properties
listed in your local newspapers. That's how I learned about MERS.

While your at it,
notice how the MERS rules
for each state
"How to Handle a MERS Foreclosure"
were written in 1999,
the year Phil Gramm
changed the rules and
opened the floodgates
of unregulated capital.

http://www.mersinc.org/Foreclosures/index.aspx


WHY IS IT NO ONE EVER LISTENS WHEN THE TRUTH IS SCREAMING:

HERE IT IS!!

Posted by: there isn't any anonomous anymore | September 24, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Both mccain and Obama should have just ignored bushs calls its not like bush knows anything about the economy...hellooooo HES the guy that should have taken steps long ago to help prevent this kind of disaster but i guess he was to busy trying to get that Iraq surge going so he could yell mission accomplished once again prematurely.George is allways a day late and a dollor short to do anybody any good.

Posted by: sharon | September 24, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

You can't immigrate to Europe. If they opened the doors they would be flooded by people because they have a better system. Free education and healthcare.

Posted by: Eric | September 24, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

McCan't no McNuggets

Posted by: Alohaakamai | September 24, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I bet ZerObama will try to vote present.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Complain, nag, complain, whine... just shut up already people. Goodness... who the heck really cares about democrats or republicans now. Stop all the finger pointing, both parties are at fault, both parties have roles in this downturn... now, push politics aside and be Americans won't you please? Shhhhhhh.... just be quite for a little bit.

Posted by: Kim | September 24, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

fed up, you're full up.
If you don't like the way the country is or where it's headed, move to France, they will love you there.

Posted by: Barker | September 24, 2008 9:32 PM

Is your first name Bob or Ma?

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:33 PM

Neither.
However, I guess you are one of those who hasn't been outside of your little comfort zone for the past 20 years, right? Do you even know what a desert is? And I don't mean apple pie and ice cream.
Unless you make over $200k, or cheat on your taxes you've got nothing to worry about under the Obama plan. Is that what scares you?

Posted by: Barker | September 24, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Let the companies fail, and they will be replaced by a better company. Why do we continue to bailout auto makers every few years? Shouldn't they be using all the profit they've made over the years for innovation? Let them go under!

Posted by: Eric | September 24, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Huh? Making over $250,000 makes you a "bad guy"???? How so? It makes you either very resourceful and/or very smart! And no, I do not currently make that much money.

da bos wrote:
heya, whad perctile of da population makes ova $250,000 a yeah? Yeh, a yeah. Cause I know i don't. Cause I heya Obama's only gonna tax those guys. And guys like me, da good guys, we aren't gonna get taxed too bad. Dat ain't a bad deal.

Posted by: catlover | September 24, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

An independent voters perspective:

If McCain had gone back to Washington to participate in the shaping of this legislation AND held the debate as-scheduled, I would have to say that he was performing honorably.

But this is a classic "false dilemma" technique used by high-school debaters and bad politicians. There is absolutely no reason that McCain can not do both.

McCain's motives and fears seem to revolve around participating in open public debate about the issues behind this crisis. Both candidates would be well-served by using the debates to provoke some honesty and clarity in this issue. This will not play well for the Republicans.

Posted by: Rob@ | September 24, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

McCain he got those gerbil type cheeks dere. Obama he got a bad case a da grey lips dere. Dis ain't a beauty contest though.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to get angry at the utter stupidity of all of this... scale, how its been handled, how the rich are still going to get rich?... What about us the ones that dont commit crime?... maybe we should start

Posted by: erik | September 24, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

the bill stinks....mccain should oppose it!!!!

Posted by: cfc | September 24, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

It is incredible that Barack Hussein Obama and joey Biden heckled Sarah Palin for voting agains that "bridge to nowhere" when they voted for it - twice!
These men need to be more respectful odf women of superior intelligence.
McCain is right, he and Obama need to go to work and cancel their little debate for a while....
http://www.examiner.com/x-852-Atlanta-Civics-Examiner

Posted by: Larry Clifton | September 24, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Imagine that, Obama will have to actually act as a Senator. I'm sure on this issue he wishes he could vote present, and avoid having to be held accountable for something

Posted by: rmartin | September 24, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I suggest they break up these behemoth organizations.

All the companies they bought up the past couple of decades should be their own individual companies once more.

Remember Great Western Bank, Home Savings, Seafirst, etc?

I would think a much smaller organization is easier to manage and keep from becoming too much of a risk would be a less risky proposal than dumping billions of dollars trying to resolve the problem.

How are they going to handle the auto industry impending bankruptcies?

And the airline industry?

Perhaps it's time to rewrite the rules on mergers.

Posted by: mwf | September 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

the bill stinks....mccain should oppose it!!!!

Posted by: cfc | September 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Face it no matter who wins we lose. I say no bailout; let me take it the jimmies for my children, and grandchildren. Stop thinking the Government is here to help. Can you name one thing the government has done right in the last 40 years? Education, social security, Medicare/ Medicaid, all is poorly run and badly managed at best. Standup think and care for yourselves, government is not the answer to your problems; you are! Even JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.

Posted by: dfscooter | September 24, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

If you are falling for this crap you are STUPID....STUPID.......

Posted by: lisa | September 24, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Hank Paulson, 4 months before going to work at an investment bank, calls for a nearly trillion dollar bailout of investment banks. Should he not recuse himself due to conflict of interest. Anyone?

Posted by: Elliott K. | September 24, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I love the fact to this day george bush, in george bush's mind dosent make mistakes... Incredible.. he talks about others dropping the ball.. What about his administration making today a reality... oh thats right its weak to admit your wrong in republican land..
You people are fools and I wanna punch one of you in the face a couple times then say its not my fault

Posted by: erik | September 24, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

MacTemperamentism last page of Rove playbook.Go to debate fool!!!Agexism!!!! cannot do two things at once.

Posted by: Bjones | September 24, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

By the way, the dollar value is now dropping, which means it costs more dollars to buy a gallon of gas from a foreign country. Everytime we drop billions into the pockets of some corporate theif, the dollar drops. Thanks George Bush, are you going to leave any money or tax dollars for the future, or just steal the future of the entire country? When I sit down to make out my tax check this year, should I make it out to AIG, GMC, Bear Stearns, or just make it out to the government and let them forward the money?

Posted by: Eric | September 24, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

screw bush.

Posted by: bushed | September 24, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Spectator,
What do you do that allows you to be so aloof and blind...? really tell me? I going to guess maybe receptionist? or stay at home mom...? really what do you do?

Posted by: pissed | September 24, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

1908, philo farnsworth.

Posted by: bratcher15 | September 24, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

MOVE THE DEBATE TO D.C. .....Hello?

Posted by: DJ | September 24, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Bush is going to make Zerobama actually do his job. A first for Zerobama.

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

A sound proposal for economic recovery, from Christopher D. Andersen (1)

September 21,2008

Mr. Henry M. Paulson Jr.
Secretary
United States Department of the Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20220

Dear Secretary Paulson:

I am writing to you with a proposal which I encourage you to consider within the context of the legislation currently being drafted by Congress regarding the Treasury’s reverse auction purchase of mortgage related assets by an amount of up to $700 billion. My proposal is politically neutral, revenue positive, limited in scope, avoids “moral hazard” at both the individual and financial institution levels and directly addresses the current overhang of new and existing single family homes held for sale.

Before briefly outlining my proposal, however, Mr. Secretary, I would like to state the following: I have been a student of and professional engaged in capital markets for more than fifteen years. As such, I know that last week’s developments, if left unchecked for a matter of only a few hours more, would have led to a total systemic failure of the global financial system. Your efforts to halt the then ensuing “death spiral” are sincerely appreciated. You have spared the American people from untold hardship, the likes of which have not been seen since the Great Depression.

The outlines of my proposal are as follows:

Mr. Secretary, I applaud your efforts to avoid the “moral hazard” of baling out both individuals and institutions that made irresponsible decisions in the past. I believe the authority you are currently seeking from the Congress to purchase mortgage related assets largely avoids this problem as those institutions which tender these securities will still be forced to take the necessary marks to their portfolios. I do not believe my proposal in any way presents a “moral hazard” issue either.

Current law allows first time home buyers to withdraw up to $10,000.00 from a Roth IRA account without taxation. I believe the same relief is extended to monies withdrawn from regular IRA accounts. This tax relief was recently enhanced by the Housing Assistance Tax Act of 2008 which included a $7,500.00 tax credit for first time purchases. The tax credit in this Act, however, phases out for individuals with incomes exceeding $75,000.00 and the credit is “re-paid” over a fifteen year period.

I propose that the tax exemption limit for withdrawals from Roth IRA accounts be raised to $150,000.00 for first time purchasers. Income tax on these monies was already collected by State and Federal governments. In addition, I propose that monies withdrawn from regular IRA accounts be taxed at the fifteen percent capital gains tax rate for first time purchasers, again, up to $150,000.00. This legislation should be limited in duration to July 1, 2009. ...

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 24, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

heya, whad perctile of da population makes ova $250,000 a yeah? Yeh, a yeah. Cause I know i don't. Cause I heya Obama's only gonna tax those guys. And guys like me, da good guys, we aren't gonna get taxed too bad. Dat ain't a bad deal.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I just saw Bush's news conference and I am disgusted. Fear mongering and blaming others for this fiasco.

Posted by: CMB | September 24, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope that Bush congratulates McCain on the massive strides in gay rights that will be achieved when McCain becomes the first president to have an openly gay chief of staff, Mark Buse!

Thanks Mr. John McCain.

Posted by: Tony from Atlanta | September 24, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Spectator you have to be kidding!

My dog could better than bush, and he has better digestion too.

If you're just saying that to help you keep from panicking, well, now is the time to panic, Bush is on the problem!

Posted by: better | September 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

If you debate mccain vs obama or dem. vs rep. in this discussion - seriously - find a new venue. This article is about Bush. 90% of these political comments a 80% trash-talk and 19% speculation. Each party has their general strong points - but seriously, there is only one obvious choice. Why must every argument include childish namecalling? Statements like "morons on the left" and "right-wing facists" do not help your argument - they only serve people to responde emotionally instead of intelligently.

There is no reason why Obama or McCain should refuse an invitation from the current president, GWB.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

One post said they should let Barr on the debate ticket. I saw coverage on C-Span or some other show years ago where Republican Bob Barr was Grandstanding over a hearing on medical marijuana and he had the nerve to say on TV from a bench above the people pleading their case "Ahhh, look at the poor little libertarians" in a really sarcastic way. Now he's running for the libertarian party??? Are the republicans stacking all the parties with their people? Having Barr in any leadership position is wrong.

Posted by: Eric | September 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama should stand up for the oridinary working people, and say "NO" to Bush's reckless bailout plan.

All that Bush wants now is to hand over a blank check to the super rich CEO's so that they can take a big chunk of it as bonus and profit sharing.

Remember what American Airlines CEO had planned to do with the pay cut that his employees were about to give? If you've forgotten, that money was going to be divided among the top 12 or 14 people in American Airlines.

I bet the samething is in the plan for the 700 billion tax payer money. Bush wants it now without giving time to put any safe guards and guidelines in place, so that his buddies can take it home and leave the next administration holding an empty bad and a mountain of bad loans.

PLEASE TELL BUSH TO TAKE A HIKE.
TAKE THE TIME TO PUT A SOLID PLAN IN PLACE.
OTHERWISE, LET THEM GO UNDER.

Posted by: David | September 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

This sh!t is such a stunt.. Yeah some are in trouble, I'm not... Guess what george bush would do for me if I made horrible moves... Nothing... I'm thinking that paying my taxes is the wrong move.. maybe I can just not show up to court like palin or her husband??
#uck this I sick of republican lies....

Posted by: mike | September 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Henny Penny

The sky is falling

In truth, McCain's numbers are dropping
and the whole GOP is being choreographed
to corner and lambaste Obama.

Obama, have the debate without McCain.

Posted by: There isn't any anonomous anymore | September 24, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Osama Bin Laden over the last week has undoubtedly been giving thanks to Allah more than the usual 8 times a day. Giving thanks because just like he had hoped, he has mired us in a perpectual war, here or there or anywhere, and he now sees his prediction has come true. Whether we bail out the banks or not we're taking on massive massive debt tat it will take many years to recover.

Bin Laden probably has a chart on his spider hole wall that measures the national debt + average American indebtedness.

Thanks, George Bush, for making Bin Laden's day.... every day.... for the last 7 friken years!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Veteran of Vietnam | September 24, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain, will never be able to have a live debate. The man can't read a TelePrompTer, let alone memorize a speech. He only got the nomination because the Republicans needed someone to throw under the bus, and he got the short straw... Where do you think Palin came from?
I don't think that was very nice of the party to do that, they could have offered up a candidate who wasn't suffering from PTSD.
Somebody move that bus and get it off McCain's neck!

Posted by: Barker | September 24, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

HELLO EVERYONE!
i'd like to propose a vote in this comments section...
this for everyone regardless of political orientation...

Who is for...?

A. Switching the VP debate to take the presidential debates place on Friday

B. Letting Palin stand in for McCain on friday

C. Re-schedule

D. None of the above (submit another idea..)

Posted by: young body old soul | September 24, 2008 9:34 PM
None of the above. Make McCain face the music!

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm so grateful that my president has teken time from his busy schedule to address all us Americans tonight. Some embittered dems may well complain that this should have been done a week ago but may I remind you that Mr. Bush has been digesting economic information in his war room, probably 24/7 since last week. So if he looks puffy under his eyes please have some sympathy.

As if you people think you could do better. Blah!!!!!!!

Posted by: Spectator | September 24, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse


Hey FBI, RESEARCH THIS - These are the rats I sniffed out!

Can all of Congress be in on this one, folks. A scam to purchase Dubai Condos?

THIS SYSTEM WAS PUT IN PLACE THIS YEAR. THIS IS AN ASSET GRAB, and we are
being asked to finance it.

Go here to read how foreclosed homes can be purchased by towns and faith
based non-profits for $1

http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/reo/goodn/dhmabout.cfm


In $700 Billion bundle of bad news, probably has many duplicated assets.

The mortgage transfers happened electronically with no paper trail.

Research Mortgage Electronic Regisration Systems) the holder of many
foreclosed properties listed in your local newspapers. That's how I learned
about MERS.

While your at it, notice how the rules for each state for
How to Handle a MERS Foreclosure
were written in 1999,
the year Phil Gramm
changed the rules
and opened the floodgates
of unregulated capital.

http://www.mersinc.org/Foreclosures/index.aspx


WHY IS IT NO ONE EVER LISTENS WHEN THE TRUTH IS SCREAMING:

HEY, LOOK HERE!!


Posted by: There isn't any anonomous anymore | September 24, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

WOW, this really makes Obama look bad. McCain knew what he had to do. Obama needed to be told by Pres. Bush

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 9:32 PM

Yeah, McCain knows what he has to do. he has to try to save his financial ass, 8 houses worth!

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I dont get it? so times are going to be tough for some people that ended up outsmarting themselves??... so what

I bought my car...Paid
I put 45% down on my house
I pay my taxes

#uck this, smaller people that make bad move get left to the street?....
Let those money hungry sharks rot
Cut the thing in Half 350 billon and suck it!!!!! Im so sick of Republican lies

Posted by: erik | September 24, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

HELLO EVERYONE!
i'd like to propose a vote in this comments section...
this for everyone regardless of political orientation...

Who is for...?

A. Switching the VP debate to take the presidential debates place on Friday

B. Letting Palin stand in for McCain on friday

C. Re-schedule

D. None of the above (submit another idea..)

Posted by: young body old soul | September 24, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

we've known about these economic problems for over a year...why is everybody acting like something has to be done this weekend?

why didn't Bush do something last year?

Posted by: Mike | September 24, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain is not postponing the "debates". Obama is refusing to delay Friday's debate to discuss "foreign affairs" no less. McCain challenged Obama to ten debates and he refused them all. Its seems that for Obama a single debate is more important than country. Perhaps Obama should debate himself in a Senate stall. The American people want action out of Washington not more talk. There is a stalemate in Washington and Obama and the media want to play politics instead of dealing with this very serious situation that will affect
the future of every American. You can debate anytime but the American people want action now, not six months from now. McCain knows what his priorites are. It is becoming obvious to all America that Obama is more concerned about himself then about his country.

Posted by: Campbell | September 24, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

This is Bush's last scare tactic of his Presidency. If Bush was serious about fixing Wall Street he would have done this years ago when it would have an impact. His shameless move now is insincere and too late. Now id McCain what to jumb when McCain Pulls his string thats up to him. The debates should go on with an empty chair representing McCain/Bush/Schmidt/Rove which would represent the last 8 years and the shameless way they forcing themselves on a complex problem without accountable.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm Sarah Palin and I will vote "present through my teleprompter on Friday.

Posted by: Goober | September 24, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

fed up, you're full up.
If you don't like the way the country is or where it's headed, move to France, they will love you there.

Posted by: Barker | September 24, 2008 9:32 PM

Is your first name Bob or Ma?

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Mcain, put some lipstick on that pig and lets go debate - you can't stall forever!

Posted by: voter | September 24, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

WOW, this really makes Obama look bad. McCain knew what he had to do. Obama needed to be told by Pres. Bush

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Some people up above said that G. Bush will vote for Obama this year. I don't know, but think about it. Rich guys have lost
30 % of their stock-market stake in the last couple of months.
That's a lot of money. Their houses are worth a lot less.
The US foreign policies -- and especially the two key points, Iran
and North Korea -- are in tatters, mostly because we were relying
on Russia to help twist ears, and then got involved with these
Georgians (J. McCain is a Georgian, he said) so we lost the Russian help. Everything is a bust. Zero. I couldn't blame him if he (Bush) did vote for Obama.

Posted by: Richaado/California | September 24, 2008 9:28 PM

Don't forget McCain has thirteen houses and eight cars or is it the other way around. Either way he's losing a bunch. No wonder he want's to quit the campaign and fix himself up.

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

fed up, you're full up.
If you don't like the way the country is or where it's headed, move to France, they will love you there.

Posted by: Barker | September 24, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

As you are certainly aware, the Republicans and the Democrats have created an organization called the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) for the purpose of excluding third party and independent candidates from the political process. Every four years, the two major parties negotiate a complex contract which excludes other presidential candidates from the national debates.

This year, the two negotiators for the secret contract were Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Representative Rahm Emanuel (D-IL). In order to protect the the Obama and McCain campaigns from public criticism, the Commission on Presidential Debates has refused to release this back-room contract for public inspection.

In order for all minority party voices to be heard in this important presidential election, it is critical that this contract is made available to the general public before the debates.

Call the Commission on Presidential Debates at 202-872-1020.
Please ask the CPD representative (or leave message) to "please make the debate contract between John McCain and Barack Obama available to the public."
Then ask the representative to please "include Bob Barr & Ralph Nader (and other 3rd party candidates you believe should be included) in the presidential debates."

Note, in 1992, Ross Perot was polling at 7% before the first presidential debate . Mr. Perot was included in all three debates not because of a ruling by the debate sponsor or host; Ross Perot was included in the presidential debates because George H.W. Bush demanded that he be included.

Today, if Bob Barr or any minority party candidate is going to be included in the debates, it will be because John McCain or Barack Obama demanded it. Many speculate that of the two, Obama should most likely be the one to listen to minority groups hoping for representation.

Pick up the phone and call the Obama campaign at 866-675-2008.
Hit 6 to speak with a campaign volunteer.
Once connected, politely deliver the following message:

"Hi my name is __________ and I'm calling to request that Senator Obama invite minority party candidates Bob Barr and Ralph Nader (and any other 3rd parties you believe should be represented) participate in the upcoming presidential debates. Could you please leave this message with your campaign manager, David Plouffe?

Please make the debates better by petitioning for 3rd party inclusion.

Posted by: opnmndd | September 24, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

So this is how Bush plans on manipulating the election to influence who is his successor.

Its better we choose NEW leadership instead of letting old leadership try to pigeon hole us with their spin.

Posted by: bv | September 24, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame what dey done done to McCain. Guy is runnin' some kind of freak show ova heya. Got the Alaskan ova heaya, frigging sequestered like some kinda lepa. Got the debate ova heya on friday, like being delayed and what not. Got Bill Clinton ova heaya frusterbatin' on larry king. Meanwhile the economy is, ahh...I don't undastand da conomy. We gotta to come togetha ova heya. And Obama is the only man I see willing to stand up and make logical sounding statements to make me feel like I know what I am doing when i vote. Palin's ova heya looking like pola bear frozen in the plane lights in NYC. Dis broad got no kinda resume ova heya.

Posted by: da bos | September 24, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

it's sad to read comments above and realize that although people know how to type, they sure do not see the forest for the trees!
Some comments are pure trash: nothing to read, nothing to remember and nothing to debate. Some do it 24/7 all their life!
That is great terror within!

Posted by: observer | September 24, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm Barack Obama and I will vote "present through my teleprompter on Friday.

No Mr Smith, go to Washington and do your J.O.B.

Posted by: Vicky | September 24, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse


The Iraq war is the fundamental financial crisis in our country. Current leadership has continual proven that it doesn't care about deficit spending - Why would the Administration want to bail out the financial markets- to help the populace or to help their (large donating )friends?

The market should correct itself. It is unfair to financially back certain corporations ( for having poor management) over those corporations that have struggled and maintained.

Keep the government out, End the war in Iraq. Jail the criminals.

Posted by: Paul Grant (follower of Basho) | September 24, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

NO, REALLY, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. MCCAIN WANTS TO POSTPONE THE PALIN/BIDEN DEBATE ALSO! google it and you'll see!

Posted by: Angelou | September 24, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

when are we going to quit fighting amongst ourselves. we are all americans . all the right does is blame the left and all the left does is blame the right. we need to take care of each other and quit this useless bickering !

Posted by: Angry american | September 24, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Why does McCain want to postpone the VP debates now? What are they doing out there?

Posted by: Angelou | September 24, 2008 9:27 PM

From Wikipedia:
In the United States Presidential election of 1864 at a very crucial faze of the Civil war, the bloodiest time in our history, Abraham Lincoln was re-elected as president. Lincoln had been a Republican but he ran under the National Union Party banner against his former top Civil War general, the Democratic candidate, George B. McClellan , and the Radical Republican Party candidate, John C. Fremont. Did Lincoln ask his political opponents to postpone the campaign?

In 1936 did Franklin Delano Roosevelt ask his political opponents to postpone the Campaign,? It was the height of the Depression. Again in 1943 did Roosevelt ask his political opponents to postpone the campaign at a crucial time in WWII?. The answer to all the questions is of course not.

So why would McCain suggest such a radical idea? It could be He has two motives. The first to help his buddies in High financial circles get the most money with the least control. The second being to delay and perhaps avoid answering some hard questions about his lack of knowledge about anything having to do with the Economy which includes a 3 trillion dollar (and growing) endless war program he supports.

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Bush is totally irrelevant. He has dropped the other shoe in McCain's tactic to delay the debate, maybe even substitute it for the (obviously gonna be disastrous) VP debate. Obama should reject this out of hand. He should tell Bush that Bush and his administration are responsible for the mess we're in and that if he's going to talk to anyone about it, it will be his fellow Democrats, and then only when they ask him to become involved.

Posted by: JimBob | September 24, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

This is, in effect, a financial 9/11. The American people want to see Bush, Obama, McCain, Reid and Pelosi, give a news conference on the steps of the Capitol and then lead all assembled in singing "Puttin' on the Ritz."

OK, maybe not that, exactly. But we do need solidarity and unity of purpose.

Oh, who am I kidding? We all, Democrat and Republican, would actually love to see all those guys singing "Puttin' on the Ritz"!

Posted by: Mike R. | September 24, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Some people up above said that G. Bush will vote for Obama this year. I don't know, but think about it. Rich guys have lost
30 % of their stock-market stake in the last couple of months.
That's a lot of money. Their houses are worth a lot less.
The US foreign policies -- and especially the two key points, Iran
and North Korea -- are in tatters, mostly because we were relying
on Russia to help twist ears, and then got involved with these
Georgians (J. McCain is a Georgian, he said) so we lost the Russian help. Everything is a bust. Zero. I couldn't blame him if he (Bush) did vote for Obama.

Posted by: Richaado/California | September 24, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

This has become all too typical of our turncoat president. I'm sick of this pandering to black people. The USA needs to make a strong statement this November that no brown or black has a chance to be president not this November and not ever.Join me, those of you who care about America's future (and want to send a clear message to all brown and black people to go back to where they come from). Vote McCain/Palin 2008.

Posted by: fed up | September 24, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Why does McCain want to postpone the VP debates now? What are they doing out there?

Posted by: Angelou | September 24, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The fact is that without Wars and Housing there is no American economy.

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

How long do we continue to convince ourselves that these politicians are crooks with law degrees? This truly amazes me to see our country being sold out from under us to grease the pockets of the over privileged 1% of the population who nothing less than trust-fund-junkies. These people have never had to rely on a J-O-B to support themselves or their families.
Give them the money their asking for, but only after their personal funds are exhausted. After all, that's what happened to everyone else who lost a job, house and savings over the past 8 years.

Posted by: Barker | September 24, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't this work better if Bush called in people who knew a lot about the economy?

Posted by: JakeD | September 24, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama, kindly stop praising yourself and go to Washington and do your job.

We all know you havn't stopped campaigning since your first day in office but right now you have an oppourtunity to shut up and do something so why do two men you constantly insult have to ask nicely for you to do what the taxpayers pay you to?

politics as usual

Posted by: www.babeled.com | September 24, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

From the Financial Times web site.

Explaining his logic (to Congress), Mr. Bernanke said that the sudden appearance of the US Treasury as a buyer would make the marketplace for distressed mortgage securities look more like a regular, liquid financial market (duh).
The higher prices that resulted would see a return to normality which would unfreeze the markets and attract other buyers, and not be an attempt to shore up financial institutions by shovelling more money at them than was necessary.
Because the prices the Treasury paid would PROBABLY still be below the assets’ long-run value, as measured by the returns from holding them, taxpayers could well make a profit. (just not as much as the would have without the Socialistic bail-out)

Here’s the problem with the Republicans offering their big-business friends a new brand of Socialism while holding the rest of us poor schmucks to the old fashioned idea of free-enterprise. Bernake admits that they plan to use our money to force the prices to stay higher than they might be had no money been infused into the stream. Another way of looking at this proposal. They come to me and tell me I’m being forced to accept $5000 in debt to accomplish their goal . So If I decide to take advantage of the good investments available I will have to pay more than I would have had I not been forced to ante up the 5K.
(The use of ( and ) indicate my additions to the text.

Posted by: vet240 | September 24, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to:

IN GOD WE TRUST.

Posted by: rubdel | September 24, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Will the goverment create a agency like the IRS to manage these loans then deny the persons with these loans due process just like the IRS?

Posted by: Moses | September 24, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

A sound proposal for economic recovery, from Christopher D. Andersen (2)

I believe these proposed changes embody a “win-win” for all constituencies and for the United States of America, while limiting the potential for unintended consequences. Specifically, I believe they would result in the following positive developments:

First, the changes would provide for the genesis of a limited new group of first time home buyers, thereby allowing the current glut of housing stock for sale to return to normalized levels without causing a tectonic shift from one asset class to another. In turn, this would help to restore the supply/demand balance in the housing market, thereby stemming the ongoing decline in the value of all homes. Of course, these developments would have positive implications for the regional banks’ balance sheets insofar as they are exposed both to the primary mortgage market as well as the home equity loan market. Existing homeowners would also benefit as the value of their homes would cease to be negatively impacted by the “neighborhood” effect.

Second, since regular and Roth IRAs are mere investment vehicles, no one type of fiduciary institution or market would be unduly affected by the implicit withdrawal of funds inherent in my proposal. Some of the withdrawals would come from bank CDs, some from money market funds, some from the bond market and others from the equity market. In essence, this temporary “burden” would be diffused and, in the end, I believe the resultant improvement in the underlying economy and equity markets would more than offset this temporary shift in asset allocation.

Next, since withdrawals from regular IRA accounts would be taxed at the capital gains tax rate, the Treasury’s current funding needs would be bolstered at a time when the federal deficit is increasing at an alarming pace. The resultant increase in marginal revenues from my proposal may actually lower the deficit’s overall cost to the taxpayer by concurrently lowering the yield on Treasury securities due to the implicit improvement in the federal government’s balance sheet. Also, to the extent that the Treasury acquires mortgage related assets within the parameters of the legislation currently being considered, the resultant improvement in the underlying housing market will help to mitigate the final cost to the taxpayer under this program.

Finally, it is clear that a rebound in general economic activity can not be achieved until the current dislocations in the housing market and resultant negative effects on our nation’s financial system are reversed. I believe my proposals would go a long way to help turn the tide in this respect. Ultimately, this reversal will allow the Federal Reserve to free itself from being held hostage to the cascade of falling asset values and permit it to pursue monetary policy in a manner which is truly balanced between the dual objectives of full employment and price stability. In addition, our nation’s trade and foreign policy initiatives will regain strength. Bolstered by a vibrant economy and a sound financial system our representatives will no longer be hamstrung in their response to the specter of the Chinese balking at the rollover of debt at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or Russia’s aggressive incursions into fledgling democracies and the potential disruptions to the supply of natural resources inherent therein. My proposal will also allow many of our nation’s wounded financial institutions to repair themselves based on improving economic fundamentals, not questionable recapitalizations by foreign sovereign wealth funds.

As they should, many irresponsible financial institutions will fail in coming quarters due to their past mistakes. The more prudent institutions will benefit through increased market share and pricing power in the future. In the same respect, by allowing them to participate in the American dream of home ownership I believe my proposal would benefit those Americans that did not overextend themselves. To the extent that these same American taxpayers will be burdened by the costs of irresponsible parties’ actions of the past, and to the extent that they have been further penalized by the erosion of the value of their savings in recent years as measured by the true rate of inflation, I believe they deserve the opportunity inherent in my proposal.

Finally, in a politically charged election year, legislation designed to address the current financial/economic crisis must be politically acceptable on both sides of the aisle. Since my proposal encourages home ownership, does not have “moral hazard” implications, is targeted to middle income citizens, is immediately revenue positive, can be viewed as a tax cut, rewards responsible lending and borrowing practices, and is a temporary action, I believe it should be enthusiastically embraced by both political parties.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Christopher D. Andersen

cc: President Bush
Speaker Pelosi
Representative Frank

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 24, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Rick Davis threw another "Flash Bang Grenade" I told you in previous posts that he would do this. Here is the reason for todays grenade.


NEW YORK TIMES 9/24/08

"...The disclosure undercuts a remark by Mr. McCain on Sunday night that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had had no involvement with the company for the last several years...


"....As president of the Homeownership Alliance, Mr. Davis received $30,000 to $35,000 a month. He, along with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, have characterized the alliance as a coalition of many housing industry and consumer groups to promote homeownership, but numerous current and former officials at both companies say the companies created and bankrolled the operation to combat efforts by competitors to rein in their business. The companies dissolved the group at the end of 2005 as part of cost-cutting in the wake of accounting scandals and, at Freddie Mac, a lobbying scandal that forced out its top Republican lobbyist....

On Monday, the McCain campaign attacked The Times for its account of those payments to Mr. Davis, saying the paper was “150 percent in the tank” for Mr. Obama. Mr. Davis said that he had worked not for the two companies but for the advocacy group, which included other organizations as well and, he said, was focused only on promoting homeownership....

..After the Homeownership Alliance was dissolved, Mr. Davis asked to stay on a retainer, the people familiar with the deal said. Hollis McLoughlin, who was chief of staff to Richard F. Syron, Freddie Mac’s chief executive, arranged for a new contract with Davis Manafort at the reduced rate of $15,000 a month, they said..."

The unintended victim is...well, remember George F. Will's comment "McCain has lost his head"

Posted by: Rick Davis threw another 'FLASH BANG GRENADE" | September 24, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Don't cancel the debate, McCain can run, but he can't hide. Its all a media play, they've got nothing else to run on. This bank thing is like the biggest heist ever, Bush trying to steal as much money as possible right before he leaves office. Don't let McCain chicken out! You have truth on your side!

Posted by: Eric | September 24, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

wait a minute i thought obama isn't experienced enough. interesting that all of a sudden they need his 'advice.'

Posted by: sobes | September 24, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

So, Bush conveniently invites McCain and Obama to the White House on the day of the debate -- which McCain, entirely coincidentally, is trying to get out of. Tell me this wasn't coordinated. If this were a TV show, nobody would believe it. Our federal government couldn't be so focused on party above country, could it?

Posted by: Joan | September 24, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse


WASHINGTON — One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month from the end of 2005 through last month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement.

The disclosure undercuts a statement by Mr. McCain on Sunday night that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had had no involvement with the company for the last several years

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/w24davis.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm another none of the above guy.

http://www.nota.org/

Look at that.

Posted by: nota | September 24, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

A sound proposal for economic recovery, from Christopher D. Andersen (1)

September 21,2008

Mr. Henry M. Paulson Jr.
Secretary
United States Department of the Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20220

Dear Secretary Paulson:

I am writing to you with a proposal which I encourage you to consider within the context of the legislation currently being drafted by Congress regarding the Treasury’s reverse auction purchase of mortgage related assets by an amount of up to $700 billion. My proposal is politically neutral, revenue positive, limited in scope, avoids “moral hazard” at both the individual and financial institution levels and directly addresses the current overhang of new and existing single family homes held for sale.

Before briefly outlining my proposal, however, Mr. Secretary, I would like to state the following: I have been a student of and professional engaged in capital markets for more than fifteen years. As such, I know that last week’s developments, if left unchecked for a matter of only a few hours more, would have led to a total systemic failure of the global financial system. Your efforts to halt the then ensuing “death spiral” are sincerely appreciated. You have spared the American people from untold hardship, the likes of which have not been seen since the Great Depression.

The outlines of my proposal are as follows:

Mr. Secretary, I applaud your efforts to avoid the “moral hazard” of baling out both individuals and institutions that made irresponsible decisions in the past. I believe the authority you are currently seeking from the Congress to purchase mortgage related assets largely avoids this problem as those institutions which tender these securities will still be forced to take the necessary marks to their portfolios. I do not believe my proposal in any way presents a “moral hazard” issue either.

Current law allows first time home buyers to withdraw up to $10,000.00 from a Roth IRA account without taxation. I believe the same relief is extended to monies withdrawn from regular IRA accounts. This tax relief was recently enhanced by the Housing Assistance Tax Act of 2008 which included a $7,500.00 tax credit for first time purchases. The tax credit in this Act, however, phases out for individuals with incomes exceeding $75,000.00 and the credit is “re-paid” over a fifteen year period.

I propose that the tax exemption limit for withdrawals from Roth IRA accounts be raised to $150,000.00 for first time purchasers. Income tax on these monies was already collected by State and Federal governments. In addition, I propose that monies withdrawn from regular IRA accounts be taxed at the fifteen percent capital gains tax rate for first time purchasers, again, up to $150,000.00. This legislation should be limited in duration to July 1, 2009. ...

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 24, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Wall Street Greed VS Main Street Need

Dear concerned citizens of America and Mass Media of the U.S.A.
As a concerned registered independent voter, forensic psychiatrist, disabled American I made my decision to vote after taking into consideration following joint tickets attributes and characteristics.

1. Has the ticket shown adequate calmness, coolness, and connectedness's under pressure to lead our nation [Presidential Temperament]?
2. Has the ticket shown sustained sound "Judgment and Caliber"?
3. Has the ticket shown adequate understanding of depth and degree to address the crucial challenges in their their purpose, policies, and positions [ Honesty, integrity and sincerity]?
4. Has the ticket sufficient "understanding and knowledge" of inside Washington workings [Experience]"?
5. Has the ticket reservoir resilience, wisdom, and vigor to address the present and future f our beloved "Great-grand Nation"?
6. Has the ticket enough joint foreign policy experience and exposure based on " Values, Virtues, Vastness, and " [American moral soul]"?
7. Has their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsively? [No "imminent danger to national
security and safety"].
8. Has the ticket genuinely kept on message of country first and politics last and avoided copying [Message change"]?
9.Has the ticket message stayed away from Culture divide and war[ Disaster prevention ]?
10. Has the ticket resisted being surrounded, supported and surrogate's by divisiveness, distortion's, and destructive characters, [ Real patriotism VS shiftiness and shameless parrot-ism]?
11. Has the ticket thoughtful, real non-partisan, & non-impulsive plans to address our current economic crisis or political tactics and temperamental statements.
I have personally and professionally concluded that OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will lift and inspire our greatgrand nation back to its greatness within and restore our global standing with the use of maximum, firm
international diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated {" Peace thru Strenght "}.
12. The era of responsibility has to replace irresponsibility and unaccountability will change to accountability and transparency. The Wall Street greed will change to Main Street need.

Yours sincerely,

COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] MD.
Forensic psychiatrist, Disabled American Veteran and Iraq
Freedom team. Grass roots California leader per Senator McCain's

PS: It is sad and unfortunate that Hon, Temperamental Maverick McCain has been turned into " Roller-coaster" by his political moves and handlers.

Posted by: COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] | September 24, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Everyone on both sides needs to realize that both Obama and McCain suck! We need someone completely outside of the Washington vortex of lobby money and that has some decent worldly experience.

I can't believe we have ended up with these two candidates. Do we have no one else?

Seriously...think about it. Is there no one else?!?!?!?!?

I would vote for Larry Elison or Bill Gates before these two.

Posted by: None of the above | September 24, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Bush is not 'helping' Obama, he is passing on a very important torch (which he fumbled and almost dropped) to one of these guys - you forget both of these guys are engaged to the presidency. There's no bells yet is all. (Not that McCain could hear them.)

Posted by: Response to Lynn | September 24, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama got a lot of money from Fannie and Freddy -- employees! Check Politifact, then tell the whole story instead of the bits that Rush Limbaugh feeds you. The guys in the boardroom have anted up big time for McCain, more than 10:1 what they donated to any Dem.

Posted by: DrJoe | September 24, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Let the ones who created this mess bail..oops, rescue us!!!! God bless America.

Posted by: Concerned | September 24, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Mc Cain is running out of tricks. Guess he cannot do two things at once. Also trying to protect Palin by delaying first presidential debate from Friday till next Thursday, the scheduled date for Biden/Palin. Hope people see through this crap.

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 24, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

lol like they'll ever agree on anything...

Posted by: P3epe | September 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm for O'Bama, but I don't understand why the democrats would go for such a stupid bailout. Republicans I can understand wanting to give 700 billion to the richest people in the world (thats right, execs in other countries benefit from our tax dollars in this bill as well). So we are giving taxpayer money to the banks, so they can take half as bonuses and then loan us the rest at a high rate? That makes no sense at all, and its not capitalism at all. let them go under!

Posted by: Eric | September 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

screw bush. Don't give him any cover for this. If neither mccain nor obama show up for this summit then nobody will pay any more attention to this lunatic in the whitehouse.

Help Save America, both of you McCain and Obama, tell Bush to screw himself.

Posted by: bushed | September 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain now hiding behind Bush's skirt?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Television *was* invented during the Great Depression. Look it up.

Posted by: Jason | September 24, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Bush completely side-stepped the fact, that the banks, etc were allowed to engage in this behavior by all of the deregulation efforts of his administration.

[ Calling Obama and McCain to the WH is just blatant politics. ]

Posted by: wolf | September 24, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Hogwash. If you want to SOCIALIZE anything start by SOCIALIZING THE PRIVATE EQUITY FUNDS AND HEDGE FUNDS.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

who who who who
cares cares cares cares

BlATCHES!!!!

Posted by: dave | September 24, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama's "attorney general" going after George Bush?
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
I can see it all now.... with Saul Alinsky's son at his side, whispering..."say this"...."now, say this"..... "Oh.. and now, say this".

Attorney General for the Obama administration.... the pinnacle of moral authority.

Posted by: CRETIAN | September 24, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

PURE SCAM.

Mr. President, Mortgage Backed Securities have been out there since the 1980s. I worked on it at my first JOB. I know.

Let those who thought they would go up forever eat their losses. Period.

As for freeing credit, I don't need a loan. Let those who need a loan pay the higher rates. It's bad enough you passed much of the toxic waste to commercial banks.

Go confiscate the assets of those who benefited from the FICTIONAL PROFITS since 2003.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama's "attorney general" going after George Bush?
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
I can see it all now.... with Saul Alinsky's son at his side, whispering..."say this"...."now, say this"..... "Oh.. and now, say this".

Attorney General for the Obama administration.... the pinnacle of moral authority.

Posted by: CRETIAN | September 24, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

> [Biden] did not know who was president during the Great Depression and thought TV was invented then, lol.

So you're saying he should have asked McCain, who witnessed it all first hand?

In the mean time, the economic mess reminds me of what happened under Nixon's watch. Why do we always lurch towards Socialism when the Republicans are in power?

Posted by: JakeD | September 24, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

...and I was referring to Bush and McCainas the fruitloops

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

They would have campaigned with an emphasis of experience and fiscal responsibility, so McCain might have won if he had picked Romney. Given the current economic news, that choice might have been a winner. After only a couple of weeks, his choice of Palin makes McCain look stupid. She's a loser. Most significantly, McCain reached out to the social conservative "base" with the Palin pick rather than the fiscal conservative "base" with a Romney pick. That was a mistake for McCain, the Republican Party, and our country. Even if McCain/Romney hadn't won, they would have re-galvanized the role of the Republican Party as fiscally responsible. Our country needs that message and it would help everyone a lot more than the family values garbage, which people like Palin peddle but fail typically fail to live up to even in their personal lives. McCain/Palin: The Bridge to Nowhere

Posted by: thoren58 | September 24, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Does McCain even have the slightest clue about how business is done in Washington?

It's not just a river in Egypt, John.

The best bit for me was Letterman calling him out as McCain said he "had to get back to Washington, immediately" and was therefore canceling his appearance on Late Night. AS HE WAS BEING INTERVIEWED BY KATIE COURIC. All of which is captured (the back and forth) on the Letterman taping. As it was being taped.

Very courageous.

Posted by: Magnetic | September 24, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse


Why is Bush helping Obama?

Posted by: Lynn | September 24, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain is losing his mind. He has instantly politicized this whole thing, regardless of what happens over the next 2 days.

Posted by: Yuri | September 24, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Chris Dodd, Chair of the Banking committee and Barney Frank, Chair of the Finance Committee should be on the hot seat or strung up by their thumbs because this meltdown happened on their watch. It is known that Dodd has amassed a lot of contributions from Fannie and Freddie, with Obama the second highest recipient of Fannie and Freddie's largesse. WHY AREN'T THEY BEING CALLED TO TASK? WHY BLAME THE REPUBLICANS NOW? You can be sure that if any Republican could be named and who was as well paid as Dodd and Obama they would have been under fire by now!!

Posted by: DHS | September 24, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

John McCain doesn't want to debate Barack Obama, so he makes a political show and says he is putting aside politics and wants to solve this problem, another part is getting the President to invite them both, now maybe no debate. McCain/Palin is all show, no substance.

Posted by: paul | September 24, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice how bush just gave obama an out on this? I have a feeling Bush will vote for obama this november.

Posted by: DFG | September 24, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey Country First, if you're gonna pretend to be a Democrat you might not want to talk about "the Democrats" like that. Just a little tip, sorry Rush forgot to mention that.

Posted by: Potter | September 24, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Of course Bush is going to help McCain avoid the debates. Bush knows that if McCain debates Obama, McCain will get slaughtered. And Bush needs McCain to win or Obama's Attorney General will be looking into what Bush now has safely classified.

Posted by: MorganaLeFay | September 24, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Obamasama, and McAmnesty?

WTF?

Ever consider maybe Mitt Romney or even Bloomberg?

THEY, unlike Barry and Jet-Jockey Johnny, actually have a Clue!

Wait, what was I thinking?

Bushie is try to make some "Appointments"

Qualified, need not even think of applying! :-(

Posted by: SAINT-The | September 24, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The only time Bush or the GOP is ever interested in anything "bi-partisan" is when their stinking ideology has blown up in their face and they need help with the clean up. And then it is always on their terms.

Posted by: Sara B. | September 24, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

guys - don't go! they're just going to serve you the koolaid they've been serving everyone else for the last 8 years. you know, clueing you in to how if you just give Bush his way, the "American people" - you know, "Main Street" - will be so much better off if you let them have their blank check. you can resist! just don't go!

Posted by: jj | September 24, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama should just take the presidency now. Neither one of these fruit loops know what to do. He needs to just take hold of the steering and show who can really handle the presidency.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Poor Gini, the gal doesn't have a clue and is shows!

Posted by: Maryanne Schultzmeister | September 24, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, he's so special he has to have an invitation from the President in order to help the current crisis.

Thanks but no thanks - no way, no how, no bama!


Maybe because unlike McCain he didnt want to use this a political move. It wasnt part of campaign strategy to insert himself into something that didnt truly need him.

Posted by: liberation388 | September 24, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I am sure Mr McCain can take four hours out of his busy schedule to go to Oxford, MS for the debate and then get back to Washington to check for the spelling accuracy or whatever he thinks he will do to broker a deal. In the final outcome all he may do is to tell Republican members of congress when it is ok to come to an agreement.

Posted by: Co Mander | September 24, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are running out of gimmicks. They have lost this game. Barney Frank came out triumphant on Lou Dobbs. He got almost everything he asked for from the administration: The government will be authorized to buy prefered shares in these joints and (possibly) share profits, rather than only sharing the losses. Exucutives of participating firms will have their compensation limited to less than 5% of the total business taking place, and more...

Bush --an McCain if he associates with Bush-- is just a fixture, with no power now. That has never been made so clear. So, let him give his little speech, and let McCain do his acting-out. At this point, that's all there is left to do...

Posted by: RegisUrgel | September 24, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

This is wrong. The only one with authority is Bush as he was elected to do the job, and even if he cant its wrong as hell to put two candidates there who are still competing to win votes. They dont have authority to tell us anything yet, and so its a bad example for democracy to put these unelected leaders in the room to decide what they dont have a right to yet.

Are we living in a communist country? Stop the debate? Suspend the campaign? Take 700 billion for an elite?

Posted by: Paul Nolan | September 24, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, he's so special he has to have an invitation from the President in order to help the current crisis.

Thanks but no thanks - no way, no how, no bama!

Posted by: Gini | September 24, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I think the first TV prototype was in the world's fair during the 30's. but if I am wrong someone will fill in the date more accurately.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Fear and Trembling in the GOP, Pt. II:

"McCain, Obama Asked to Summit"

Posted by: wardropper | September 24, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I think the first TV prototype was in the world's fair during the 30's. but if I am wrong someone will fill in the date more accurately.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Country First--

We're more interested in dealing with issues pertinent to our well-being. I know, those things aren't important to McCain supporters. Isn't this race based on personality anyway?!

McCain is slipping in the polls, Palin is hiding out. Sure Biden makes gaffes--Palin hasn't had the opportunity to yet. With her being in political protective custody and all. Please get over it!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Posted by: DinahS | September 24, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

The meeting would have been more successful if McCain and Obama agreed to a set of principles needed for settlement. Oh well. McCain needed to make a big splash.

Posted by: Delmar | September 24, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

The debate is more important.

Some gamesmanship By Obama. I'll come and thank you for being presidential President Bush. We can get this wrapped up by tomorrow night and get back to the debate.

http://www.boppoll.com

Ten People, 600 bops per minute.

Obama '08

Posted by: Say it ain't so! | September 24, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

So, the Democrats are like little rabid Chihuahuas going after Sarah Palin but nobody seems to be talking about Biden's recent gaffes-- did not know who was president during the Great Depression and thought TV was invented then, lol. Check the vid clip in my blog:

http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Country First! | September 24, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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