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A lone spectator sat in the seats of the Ford Theater, site of the scheduled first presidential debate on the campus of the University of Mississippi, during set construction on Sept. 24, 2008, in Oxford, Miss. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

By Robert G. Kaiser
Ignoring the proposal from Sen. John McCain that Friday's scheduled presidential debate be postponed, the independent Commission on Presidential Debates announced Thursday that it is "moving forward with its plan for the first presidential debate at the University of Mississippi in Oxford... The plans for this forum have been underway for more than a year and a half. The CPD's mission is to provide a forum in which the American public has an opportunity to hear the leading candidates for the president of the United States debate the critical issues facing the nation. We believe the public will be well served by having all of the debates go forward as scheduled."

McCain proposed Wednesday that the debate be postponed until a deal is struck in Washington on a financial bailout plan. Sen. Barack Obama rejected the idea, saying the crisis made the debate more useful and timely.

Janet Brown, executive director of the commission, flew from Washington to Oxford late Thursday.

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John McCaint has suddenly gotten quite concerned about the crisis on Wall Street.

Just more lies....

So much so that he has announced he’s suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington so he can work with Congress on solving the problem and he wants Obama to do the same which will mean putting off that pesky debate they were supposed to have on Friday.

The situation was so urgent in fact that McCaint called up David Letterman personally to cancel his appearance on his show so he wouldn’t waste any time tackling the problem.

Except that he apparently had time to stick around long enough to film an interview with Katie Couric, to "expalin" the pathetic interview with peeeuuu Palin whereas she fumbles and get confused on such a simple subject....and literally self destructs on CBS.....

So while McCaint was at the West 57th street CBS News Location.....at same point in time he would have been on Letterman.

Needless to say, Dave wasn’t impressed. In fact Dave had some pretty good points to make during the course of the show.

David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric.

According to Letterman, McCaint personally called him and apologized for bailing out at the last minute.

He said he was suspending his campaign to rush to Washington and help fight America’s biggest economic crisis since the great depression.

Letterman understood the urgency of this issue and said it was ok.

Boy, Was he mad when he knew that McCaint did not actually go to Washington to solve the ‘Crisis’ and fix the ‘Crater’ in the economy?

Letterman stopped his interview with Keith Olbermann midway to show a live TV feed of McCaint getting makeup for his interview with Katie Couric.

Letterman said something is terribly wrong with McCain’s campaign ..and it smells....(peeeuuu Palin anyone)and that he was just playing a political game by saying that he was suspending his campaign.

And when Dave saw McCaint with Couric having makeup applied to his cancer ridden head he yelled out and said: "Hey John, do you need a ride to the airport??????.

He felt this a political gimmick to stop his sliding poll numbers from sliding further. He repeatedly asked the same question - ‘Where is your running mate, Sarah Palin?’.

You do not suspend a campaign a month before elections, you get your second in command to run the show instead.

A total of 10 minutes was used up by Dave Letterman to shred McCain and his publicity stunt into pieces.

View David's Anger @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

After the Walter Cronkite moment of 1968 now 40 years later for McCaint on David Letterman......I don’t think McCain will be scheduling a follow-up appearance anytime soon.

Thanks Again Dave.... for showing us the truth..yet again......McCaint can't multi-task.....

Its the end of the peeeuuu Palin bubble and McCaints lies.......

"Thanks but no thanks for more of the lies that bridge America to nowhere......"

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's campaign manager has yet to answer why his firm was receiving thousands of dollars from Freddie Mac until last month. For doing absolutely nothing....except providing access to John McCain.

I hope the press pursues this, or Obama's campaign hits it hard.

McCain is the biggest of frauds.

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccains-fannie-flak.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | September 26, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

and by the way, this is teh RCP average this morning - the poll of all polls including gallup
RCP Average 09/18 - 09/25 --
Obama48.2 McCain 44.2
Obama +4.0

Posted by: sheridan1 | September 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Uh...have you people been watching the news? Have you seen that both Democrats and Republicans find John McCain's appearance there usless and a distraction? Did you read that he had absolutely NOTHING to say during the joint meeting?
He tried to come in, and 6 days of negotiation when a consensus was finally being reached, and look like he was going to save the day. When his own party wouldn't even listen to him, he decided maybe he should do the debate afterall.
He is INEFFCTUAL, folks! In fact, he is a distraction.
I can't wait to see this denate tonight...my friends.

Posted by: sheridan1 | September 26, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

thecannula

You can grab an individual poll in either direction, see below for example. The safer thing to do is to look at the overall trends of the polls at places like Real Clear Politics and 538. Each poll has its own strengths and weaknesses, but when averaged out and analyzed you get a more complete picture.


"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 45%. This is Obama’s biggest lead since his convention bounce peaked with a six-point advantage. In fact, on only two days since clinching the Democratic nomination in early June has Obama enjoyed a lead bigger than he has today (see trends)."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Posted by: nowanna3 | September 26, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Zogby Interactive
Date: 9/23-25
Added: 9/25/08

John McCain 46%
Barack Obama 44%
Unsure 10%
Source

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Happily the Gallup poll is not following the trend of the rest of the polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/


"dmmgba-
Yes,happily there are- according to yesterday's Gallup Daily Tracking Poll, an equal number of Americans think McCain should be President as think Obama should be President.

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 9:10 AM"
?????????????????????
9/26/08-
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 46, McCain 48 McCain +2

dmmgba- you asked if ANYONE is backing McCain....according to this George Washington University poll published this AM, you're rhetorical question and retort have fallen flat....

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Happily the Gallup poll is not following the trend of the rest of the polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/


"dmmgba-
Yes,happily there are- according to yesterday's Gallup Daily Tracking Poll, an equal number of Americans think McCain should be President as think Obama should be President.

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 9:10 AM"
?????????????????????
9/26/08-
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 46, McCain 48 McCain +2

dmmgba- you asked if ANYONE is backing McCain....according to this George Washington University poll pblished tis AM, you're rhetorical question and retort have fallen flat....

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

What Happened the Last Time We Listened to John McCain?-

washingtonpost.com Editorial Pages

Another Iraq Benchmark
Legislators approve a crucial deal on provincial elections.

WHILE WASHINGTON was seized with congressional negotiations over the Wall Street bailout, Iraq's parliament on Wednesday took another major step toward political stabilization. By a unanimous vote, the national legislature approved a plan for local elections in 14 of 18 provinces by early next year -- clearing the way for a new, more representative and more secular wave of politicians to take office. The legislation eliminates the party slate system that allowed religious authorities to dominate Iraq's previous elections, and it provides for women to hold 25 percent of seats. Most important, it will allow Sunni leaders who boycotted the 2005 provincial elections -- and who have since allied themselves with U.S. forces against al-Qaeda in Iraq -- to compete for political power in the provinces that were once the heartland of the insurgency.

As always in Iraq's halting journey toward a new order, the reform was not complete. Elections were put off in the province surrounding the volatile city of Kirkuk, where Kurds, Sunni Arabs and other groups compete for power, and in three Kurd-run provinces. Staging fair and peaceful elections will be another major challenge: In the south of Iraq, competition among Shiite parties, including those of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Mahdi Army leader Moqtada al-Sadr, could easily spill over into violence. The importance of securing the elections is one good reason for President Bush's decision to withdraw only 8,000 of the 146,000 remaining U.S. troops in Iraq between now and February. Still, the precipitous drop in violence in Iraq during the past year offers strong reason for hope that a good election can be held -- and that the new Sunni and Shiite leaders who emerge will be well positioned to jump-start reconstruction in the provinces and negotiate with each other.


For some time, U.S. Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker has been citing provincial elections as the most important of Iraq's "political benchmarks." This week's breakthrough follows others in recent months, including the reform of a law that purged former members of Saddam Hussein's Baath party from government posts. More steps are needed -- most important, agreement on a law distributing Iraqi oil revenue among provinces and allowing for new investment. But it's now clear that the political progress that the Bush administration hoped would follow the surge of U.S. forces in Iraq has finally begun. How can the next president preserve that momentum? Democrat Barack Obama continues to argue that only the systematic withdrawal of U.S. combat units will force Iraqi leaders to compromise. Yet the empirical evidence of the past year suggests the opposite: that only the greater security produced and guaranteed by American troops allows a political environment in which legislative deals and free elections are feasible.

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Happily the Gallup poll is not following the trend of the rest of the polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/


"dmmgba-
Yes,happily there are- according to yesterday's Gallup Daily Tracking Poll, an equal number of Americans think McCain should be President as think Obama should be President.

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 9:10 AM"

Posted by: nowanna3 | September 26, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

"David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric..."
AlexP1

????????????????

This is your CRITERIA for picking a President? Late Night Talk Show Appearances?
Do you or the stand up comedian on CBS, famous for stupid pet tricks, think he's the equivalent of a hard news program shown at 6:30 PM which informs the American people?....YOUR judgement is pathetic- You probably believe in Joe Biden's tale of FDR going on TV as President in 1929!!! Hey, Did FDR do Letterman?

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Early this friday.......

Washington Mutual was bought by JP Morgan/Chase..

....so what did McCaint do exactly

I know snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

dmmgba-
Yes,happily there are- according to yesterday's Gallup Daily Tracking Poll, an equal number of Americans think McCain should be President as think Obama should be President.

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

John McCaint has suddenly gotten quite concerned about the crisis on Wall Street.

Just more lies....

So much so that he has announced he’s suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington so he can work with Congress on solving the problem and he wants Obama to do the same which will mean putting off that pesky debate they were supposed to have on Friday.

The situation was so urgent in fact that McCaint called up David Letterman personally to cancel his appearance on his show so he wouldn’t waste any time tackling the problem.

Except that he apparently had time to stick around long enough to film an interview with Katie Couric, to "expalin" the pathetic interview with peeeuuu Palin whereas she fumbles and get confused on such a simple subject....and literally self destructs on CBS.....

So while McCaint was at the West 57th street CBS News Location.....at same point in time he would have been on Letterman.

Needless to say, Dave wasn’t impressed. In fact Dave had some pretty good points to make during the course of the show.

David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric.

According to Letterman, McCaint personally called him and apologized for bailing out at the last minute.

He said he was suspending his campaign to rush to Washington and help fight America’s biggest economic crisis since the great depression.

Letterman understood the urgency of this issue and said it was ok.

Boy, Was he mad when he knew that McCaint did not actually go to Washington to solve the ‘Crisis’ and fix the ‘Crater’ in the economy?

Letterman stopped his interview with Keith Olbermann midway to show a live TV feed of McCaint getting makeup for his interview with Katie Couric.

Letterman said something is terribly wrong with McCain’s campaign ..and it smells....(peeeuuu Palin anyone)and that he was just playing a political game by saying that he was suspending his campaign.

And when Dave saw McCaint with Couric having makeup applied to his cancer ridden head he yelled out and said: "Hey John, do you need a ride to the airport??????.

He felt this a political gimmick to stop his sliding poll numbers from sliding further. He repeatedly asked the same question - ‘Where is your running mate, Sarah Palin?’.

You do not suspend a campaign a month before elections, you get your second in command to run the show instead.

A total of 10 minutes was used up by Dave Letterman to shred McCain and his publicity stunt into pieces.

View David's Anger @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

After the Walter Cronkite moment of 1968 now 40 years later for McCaint on David Letterman......I don’t think McCain will be scheduling a follow-up appearance anytime soon.

Thanks Again Dave.... for showing us the truth..yet again......McCaint can't multi-task.....

Its the end of the peeeuuu Palin bubble and McCaints lies.......

"Thanks but no thanks for more of the lies that bridge America to nowhere......"

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

AlexP1
If he shows up after having saved us from a rushed and flawed bill which is replaced in a week by a much better bill, he will be seen by the American people as having thrown himself on a grenade that didn't go off....saving all of us in the process- but don't trust me- Ask Bill Clinton-

ABC News' Nitya Venkataraman Reports:

Former President Bill Clinton defended Sen. John McCain's request to delay the first presidential debate, saying McCain did it in "good faith" and pushed organizers to reserve time for economy talk during the debate if the Friday plans move forward.

Appearing on Good Morning America Thursday, Clinton told ABC News' Chris Cuomo that McCain's push to postpone the debate would only be a good political move if both candidates agreed. McCain announced on Wednesday that he would "suspend" his presidential campaign to come to Washington to help negotiate a financial bailout bill.

"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.

"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."
Also... During the interview Bill Clinton blamed the Democrats for blocking reform of the mortgage giants:

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

If there is no resolution to this "crisis" McCaint looks like an idiot if he does not show up for the Debate today.......if he shows up and there still is no resolution he is considered a liar.....If there is a resolution and he show up he is still not a candidate but another mockery of a candidate.....

"He snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory...."

McCaint and peeeuuu Palin....."Thanks but no thanks to more lies that bridge America to nowhere...."

Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey sti1es,

Aren't you the one who blamed this administration for rushing into Iraq after telling all of us that the sky was falling? Now you want to rush into this bailout....learn from history much?

Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Floyd Norris in Today's NY Times-

"Contrary to what President Bush said in his speech Wednesday night, the plan proposed by his administration did not call for buying such securities at “current low prices.” As Ben Bernanke, the Fed chairman, explained to legislators this week, the price the government would pay was to be the “hold-to-maturity price” of these securities, not the “fire-sale price” they would now fetch in an open market.

And how would that price be determined? Mr. Bernanke thought “auctions and other mechanisms could be devised that would give the market good information on what the hold-to-maturity price was for a large class of mortgage-related assets.” That strikes me as dubious at best. Auctions of disparate securities with one eager buyer and sellers of varying desperation may show something, but it is unlikely to be the “hold-to-maturity value.”"
???????????????????????????????????

Do you think Frank and Dodd know what their pushing through Congress? Three Nobel Prize Winning Economists this AM said we're rushing too fast with this bill-
McCain should be praised for listening to the house Republicans and spending more time hashing it out!


Posted by: thecannula | September 26, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

The debates must go on! I want to see McCain explain why he is getting involved in the politics of Washington while he is running for President!

http://www.boppoll.com

Obama '08

Posted by: mgultch | September 26, 2008 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm hoping if the debate doesn't come off because McCain won't show that they let Obama have the mic and the stage to himself and just let him talk and field questions. Also, I agree with HH over at the New Yorker that Obama played this perfectly. McCain really put himself first, and it will cost him.

http://theswitchintime.blogspot.com

Posted by: VoxPopuli08 | September 26, 2008 4:28 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how much McCain's Thursday shennanigans are going to cost my savings accounts on Friday?

Posted by: sti1es | September 26, 2008 2:58 AM | Report abuse

INSANE / PALIN 2008?

Honestly, is there ANYBODY in this country at this point who actually believes that McCain should be President?

Is McCain for real? We need leadership right now to get us out of this mess, not partisan bickering. The President, both sides of Congress, and Obama were on board. The proposal wasn't perfect but the details were being hammered out.

CREDIT IS THE LIFE-BLOOD OF A COUNTRY'S ECONOMY

If credit grinds to a halt, we will be a cash-only society. Cash-only society's are essentially third-world countries. Credit allows commerce to happen and creates opportunities.

There was a non-partisan dialogue between the President, Obama and both the Democrats and the Republicans of Congress. McCain injected partisan bickering into a crisis and he is now bringing the United States to its financial knees with small-minded thinking. Only the super-ultra-wealthy rich will survive this economic meltdown if McCain isn't stopped.

THE DEBATE

Obama is a man. And, he gave his word that he would be in Mississippi for the debate this Friday, September 26th, 2008. And the Nation expects him to be there whether McCain goes or not. This is an unprecedented opportunity for Obama to have practically unlimited access to the Nation's press corps! Obama is virtually unchallenged. McCain is scared to debate Obama. McCain has proven that he doesn't have the ability to multi-task in a crisis.

Obama can hold a Nationwide Press Conference at the exact time that the debate was supposed to take place. Millions of viewers want to hear from *SOMEBODY* who will provide Leadership for this country right now. Scores of Millions of viewers will be tuning in to see whether the debate is happening or not.

OBAMA: THIS IS YOUR CHANCE! SHOOT A 3 POINT BUZZER-BEATER. SLAM THE DUNK SHOT! THE BASKET IS WIDE OPEN AND THE OPPOSING TEAM JUST WALKED OFF THE COURT. AFTER 8 YEARS OF FAILED REPUBLICAN POLICIES, THEY CAN'T FACE THE MUSIC. YOU'RE THE LEADER OBAMA, GO FOR IT!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: dmmgba | September 26, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

JakeD

I've gotta appreciate your skills dude.
I haven't had a good laugh all day.

Now I have to go languish in my liberal guilt...

Posted by: JohnQuimby | September 26, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

As others have said, perhaps Obamy can debate Biden. They seem to have quite a few differences, so it could be interesting.

Amazingly, against all common sense, McCain's winning this standoff. Tomorrow could very well decide the election.

Posted by: info42 | September 26, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

"9. Sells Alaska to Russia for $700 billion."
Puha. Now that is a simple solution McAlaska can understand.

Posted by: jsp9999 | September 26, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

I have witnessed many campaigns in my lifetime and I must say that the McCain campaign has got to be the strangest Ive seen. What kind of campaign is he running. He wont allow his running mate to answer questions from the press, he seldom answers questions and now he wont debate. Surely the voters deserve better then this! Fortunately the media is responsible and keeps the pressure on to ensure the voters can assess the candidates in an informed way.

Posted by: Goose3 | September 26, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

This is why this election is so important.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APydh8XnO9c

Posted by: MDickey28 | September 26, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Look, I am un-suspending just long enough to thank God that people like justadad+55 or 56 or anyone else like that cannot vote for our U.S. President. And, no one is "changing" your posts, idiot. Stop spamming. You don't see me spamming Canadian blogs about your elections. Why don't you just leave us alone? You wouldn't even have a free country if it wasn't for the United States of America!

We now return to the regularly-scheduled suspension, already in progress.

Posted by: JakeD | September 26, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

some one changed my post?

Posted by: justada56 | September 25, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

This is why McCain pretended to suspend his failing campaign:


McCain graduated at the bottom of his class and he is up against a guy (Obama) who TEACHES CONSTITUTIONAL LAW on top of all his rhetorical skills, personal charisma and deep, deep reserves of just freaking cool.


McCain finally woke up to the reality that he is going to look like the utter fool that he is and he wants out, the game ain't no fun any more.


That flip flopping you see? Its not just an old man changing his mind, its the kind of flip flopping that a fish does when you haul it out onto the deck, just before you beat its brains in with a club.


McCain has finally got it that he is turning up to a gunfight with a pen knife.


A closed one.


Rusted shut.


Two words for him and his vile freaking crowd of Rethuglicans.


NO

MERCY


Take them down all the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
.

Posted by: DrainYou | September 25, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Man I'd love to glibly go after John McCain.

It's just not that simple anymore.

This bailout is a bad deal and everybody but Bush knows it. Nobody sounds more like a used car salesman than Henry Paulson. "Ya gotta buy now - or else!" So I've just become a bi-partisan Democrat.

I support anybody who can kill this deal until after the election.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | September 25, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Yes you are welcome. have not applied for a pass port yet. Guess we will see why you ask for so much when freedom of speech is the spine of our usa and canada society. We the people are not all that dumb.

Posted by: justada56 | September 25, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Hope I do not get banned from seeing all my friends in the USA. This is quite unusual as of today, for we all know that Big Brotjer is watching.

Posted by: justada56 | September 25, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"Do NOT understand the true spirit of the democratic process which is the backbone of this republic."

Forgot a not.

Posted by: DixieWrecked | September 25, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Slate predicts McCain's next 10 Hail Mary campaign stunts:

http://www.slate.com/id/2200927/?from=rss
.

1) Returns to Vietnam and jails himself.

2) Offers the post of "vice vice president" to Warren Buffett.

3) Challenges Obama to suspend campaign so they both can go and personally drill for oil offshore.

4) Learns to use computer.

5) Does bombing run over Taliban-controlled tribal areas of Pakistan.

6) Offers to forgo salary, sell one house.

7) Sex change operation.

8) Suspends campaign until Nov. 4, offers to start being president right now.

9) Sells Alaska to Russia for $700 billion.

10) Pledges to serve only one term. OK, half a term.

Posted by: DrainYou | September 25, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain thinks he is being sly through his attempt at misdirection by suspending his campaign and attempting to stop tomorrow's debates. Apparently McCain doesn't realize that sane, rational Americans will be appalled at his attempt to subvert the electoral process of which this grand country is founded. Those that believe the election process must be halted to save the nation do understand the true spirit of the democratic process which is the backbone of this republic.

Posted by: DixieWrecked | September 25, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton just announced she's now supporting McCain. I have been saying that the reason the Clintons havnen't been hammering Mcin is because if Obama wins, Hillary can't run in 2012. The White House is on the radar for the Clintons in 2012.

Yes!!! all those hillary supporters were probably voting McCain anyway...at east the smart ones.

Good Move Hillary!!!

Posted by: dr718 | September 25, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Since the Vice-President is prepared to step in if something happens to the President, McCain should send his VP candidate to the debate.

Posted by: bug123 | September 25, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

ABC News' Nitya Venkataraman Reports: Former President Bill Clinton defended Sen. John McCain's request to delay the first presidential debate, saying McCain did it in "good faith" and pushed organizers to reserve time for economy talk during the debate if the Friday plans move forward.

Appearing on Good Morning America Thursday, Clinton told ABC News' Chris Cuomo that McCain's push to postpone the debate would only be a good political move if both candidates agreed. McCain announced on Wednesday that he would "suspend" his presidential campaign to come to Washington to help negotiate a financial bailout bill.

"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.

"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."
Also... During the interview Bill Clinton blamed the Democrats for blocking reform of the mortgage giants:


Going very much against the media theme that the current financial crisis is all George W. Bush and the Republicans’ fault, Bill Clinton on Thursday told ABC’s Chris Cuomo that Democrats for years have been “resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac”
True.
President Bush warned about reforming Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae 17 times this year alone.
John McCain's reform bill was blocked by dems in 2005.
Thank you, Bill Clinton!

Posted by: thecannula | September 25, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

How can we tell McCain is really no better than bush??

Bush's catastrophic failure and terrible judgements are numerous: Pulling out troops from Afghan, starting Iraq war, keep feedinf the wal street fat cats, oil giants, defense contractors, and the stinking super riches throughout his presidency, leading to the current financial meltdown and collapse of american economy and security.

McCain's vivid demonstration of terribly poor judgements are almost as numerous as bush's:

1.Voting for Iraq War
2.Choosing Sarah Palin as his VP, a very possible President.
3. Suspending his campaign and going to Washington to disrupt the negotiation and inject presidential politics into the national crisis
4. Unilaterally postponing the Debate (copying bush's unilateralism), creating UNCERTAINTY in the important political process exactly when everyone must try hard to promote certainty, remove uncertainty in this uncertain time in the wall street.

Posted by: Charlie180 | September 25, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kathleenrjohnson | September 25, 2008 8:27 PM

You were correct. I was joking.

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 25, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP12aNzocSc

I think the word Ms. Palin was searching for was caricature. The need to let her do more interviews she is the best spokesperson the Dems could hope for.

"car·i·ca·ture

Pronunciation:
\ˈker-i-kə-ˌchu̇r, -ˌchər, -ˌtyu̇r, -ˌtu̇r, -ˈka-ri-\
Function: noun
Etymology:
Italian caricatura, literally, act of loading, from caricare to load, from Late Latin carricare

Date:1712

1 : exaggeration by means of often ludicrous distortion of parts or characteristics 2 : a representation especially in literature or art that has the qualities of caricature 3 : a distortion so gross as to seem like caricature"

Posted by: nowanna3 | September 25, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

John McCain - Putting his campaign before his country.....again.


McCain knows all about bailing out rich bankers and screwing over middle class and poor people, he's been doing it for years:
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxBCAaulG-k
.


*McCain - Founding Member of the Keating Five

McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)

Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


Here's some more straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
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Posted by: DrainYou | September 25, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

now we find that McCain is lying about suspending his campaign. he said he would suspend fundraising and suspend ads. he didn't stop fundraising, the ads are still running, his campaign offices are still up and running full steam, his staff is still releasing Obama attack messages, etc.

McCain takes us all for fools. he looks great acting presidential and hopes no on would ever think that he's lying through his teeth.

Posted by: JoeT1 | September 25, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1:

Though the McCain campaign announced yesterday that it's pulling all its ads, in reality the logistical challenges of doing that are so daunting that it's unlikely all of McCain's ads will be off the air until the end of today.

Evan Tracey, who tracks national ad buys for the Campaign Media Analysis Group, estimates that it will take until tonight before "95 percent" of McCain's ads are down, and even then McCain spots will still continue to run in markets here and there around the country.

"It's not as easy as it sounds -- you can't just decree that all stations stop airing your ads," Tracey tells me. "McCain has been running roughly 2,600 ads a day. You're talking about four to six stations in every media market, six markets per state, with ads in 12 states."

The reality is that closing down a modern campaign's advertising might entail having your ad buyers make dozens of calls to different stations around the country, some of which are small and technologically backward and might be slow about pulling the spots at any rate. This explains why many readers have been reporting to us and other Web sites that they've seen McCain's ads still running.

Tracey stressed that what he's hearing from stations confirms that the McCain campaign is in fact working hard to pull its ads, and admitted that this could hamper McCain politically. "They are legitimately out there trying to pull their spots with vigor," Tracey said. "He is basically going to be drawing down in very important media markets."

excerpt from TPM

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 25, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I have a question for the candidates. How has this fiasco in banking damaged the reputation of American as an economic leader in the world? .................
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/25/america-has-lost-economic-authority/

Posted by: glclark4750 | September 25, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-and-bushs-kabuki-theatre-mccain.html

Thursday, September 25, 2008
Credit Where Credit Isn't Due: McCain and Bush's Kabuki Theatre

Now we know why McCain hired the Bush contingent.

It emerged in the White House briefing today that McCain called Bush and asked him to initiate a meeting today at 4 pm at the White House, putatively for him to "deal with" the crisis.

That is, McCain asked Bush to help him create an trifecta: To try to lend some credence to McCain's desperate assertion that a suspension of his campaign is necessary, in effect either avoiding a debate in which he would face critical questions about his stance on the economy or marching in claiming "victory"; attempting to co opt the financial crisis thereby trying to put an end to his plummeting in the polls created by his flailing positions on the economy--perhaps best reflected by his statement days ago that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong"; and also perhaps buying more time for Sarah Palin after her embarrassing photo op at the UN yesterday, by moving her debate forward as well.

Here's how it happened, according to Q and A at the WHB:

McCain emailed Bush asking for the 4 P.M. meeting. Now, one reasonably might ask, why is today such a necessity for McCain, if his interest is solely the national good?

Because it is before the debate. McCain hopes to stage a meeting at the White House, thereby, with Bush's cooperation, lending plausibility to his claim to need to suspend his campaign. Then, if Republicans, in their own electoral interest, can be persuaded to come to agreement, before the debate, he would claim--in an act of utter stage management--to have "resolved" the crisis. Thereby hoping to take the heat off on his past careening stances and sliding polls and staunch the bleeding on the polls--before the debate.

This is Kabuki Theatre masquerading as substance--no different than what we saw at the U.N. yesterday.

It is utterly stage managed, utterly cynical, and utterly unrelated to the substantive deliberation necessary to actually resolve these matters on the merits and for our nation's future, rather than for short-term and desperate political advantage.

These occurrences are equally important for what they indicate about McCain's governing style as they are for their impact upon democratic process: impulsive acts that rely on drama and theatrical posture rather than substantive reasoning and long-term deliberation; a strong willingness to sacrifice substantive reasoning, deliberative process, and even prior structures and agreements to immediate political need; an attempt to reach outcomes through last minute stage management rather than substantive argument.

These should create deep concern for anyone who wishes for a change in governmental process from the past eight years.

We have an economy, rather than a campaign, to rescue. Putting nation before politics means putting all attempts to resolve it before political attempts to co opt it--and to move towards one's commitments, rather than towards a more immediate and short-term salvation.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-and-bushs-kabuki-theatre-mccain.html

Posted by: caraprado1 | September 25, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin is photogenic, hair, eyeglasses, good teeth. And she likes the click of cameras. Likes to see herself in the tv media, a working mom & Governor from Alaska. A young politician taking on (corrupt?) senior politicians in high places down south? She likes waving to crowds of 60T (in Florida & elsewhere). She likes being the Republican candidate for VP chosen by well-known Senator McCain. Palin likes (and it sure seems like it) the media hype, granted to all VP candidates. Surely, she enjoys her new prestige.

On the other hand, however, Palin wants all of the above ... sans communicating with the voters?

You can't communicate much vociferating to 60T from a loud mike. You say something, the cheers drown you out.

What she doesn't (seem to) like is communicating one on one, with reporters who get to ask uncomfortable questions, questions one can't prepare for.

This is strange, since almost all, or most politicians usually love this aspect of their work; that is, their chance to make themselves heard, to be seen answering intelligently, to be seen and heard - even when under fire, like the 5 Sept. 08 interviews with conservative nemesis Bill O'Reilly and Senator Obama. Obama kept his cool under attack. He did very well, even when O'Reilly went way over the Republican top...

Difficult, to grasp, Palin's logic.

She wants to get to the VP office in Washington, to replace Cheney ... yet without speaking openly and frequently to reporters and tv anchors. But this is what it takes for people to accept a politician. Why this reticence?

One can only suspect she has real apprehensions, but about what? Or even, worse? Doubt is the worst thing and we all remember that sometimes, bad things hide form the light. Why this hesitation towards the lights of the media?

Cheney's another (dark?) figure that avoids the media light. Uncomfortable feeling about him, a lot of doubt. And Palin seems to be copying Cheney in this respect, staying low, under the media radar.

Posted by: hchiba | September 25, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I think it is already quite evident nether candidate should interject themselves into the direct negotiations since it is impossible to prevent political posturing out of it.

I believe Obama was correct in making known what he and supposedly McCain felt were the key points they needed addressed in any solution which they would support, but let the negotiators negotiate without meddling. I makes little difference at this point if they are physically in Washington, they can remain more than adequately briefed and when a bill is ready, return to Washington on short notice for a vote. I'm fairly certain the rest of the members of congress would wait for them.

Besides, they have their key economics advisers there on the ground and these are the people they reply upon for information gathering anyway. I don't believe either of them would claim to be economics experts and wouldn't and shouldn't be involved directly more than they have been in stating principles they will support. There are two ways to lead, micromanage everything and accomplish nothing or allow the people you trust to do their job. After all, that's why they were hired wasn't it?

They have a unique forum in the venue of the debate to explain their policies and explain what they feel is at risk to the American people. I would guarantee people will be paying more attention than they were last night to Bush.

Something else to keep in mind, this is a piece of legislation which was requested by a REPUBLICAN president. Why didn't the House GOP leadership work with the White House BEFORE it even came to congress?

Posted by: wes1155 | September 25, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, Grandpa McSame needs more time to memorize the three debate "zingers" his campaign has cooked up for him.

Posted by: bclark3 | September 25, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I've noticed a number of musings here about the reason why Senator John McCain put his campaign on hold and I would like to offer this:
The Senator from Arizona is going senile, this is why he is so different from how he used to be. He's now only following the directives of his managers because the good Senator is losing it upstairs.
I don't think it's about what John can do in Washington with: "The bailout" but it's more about his avoidance of the debates as his handlers know he won't be able to respond quick enough to the fast changing dialogue and pressure to come up with quick, witty and strong answers.
Right now, and for the rest of his Life, the good man J McCain, the war hero we admire, is destined to be cared for in the way that senile people are with big money.
Senile people have only one thing on their mind, to try to make sure others can't see what is happening to them, as the worst thing in this world is to be seen to be losing their mind.
Watch the debates when they happen, you'll see.
Chris W.
Victoria, B.C. Canada.

Posted by: heartprivacy | September 25, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

News travels ... read in the Montréal La Presse (25.9.08, p.A5) that an cardboard effigy of Senator Obama was found hanging from a tree, at the end of a fishing line, in beautiful Oregon. The hanging tree stands in the Christian University of George Fox grounds.

Wonder what so offends the Christians in Oregon? Hard to tell...

Posted by: hchiba | September 25, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Gator-Ron,

You must be joking. Are you not aware that the debate is costing 5.5 million and has been planned for a year and a half? And you think it should just be rescheduled like you would a picnic if it rained?

Aside from the fact that there is no need to cancel. And for anyone who thinks McCain saved the day, he just got there this afternoon, went to his office, had lunch, met a few staffers and went for the photo-op.
That is the reality of what happened. Now, you might want to reconsider your comment. We all need to work together on this and not fill the comments with nonsense.

Posted by: kathleenrjohnson | September 25, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

The school children need to learn about the real World.
Fairness is a fallacy
Entitlement is a fallacy
Believing one knows the mind of another is a fallacy of intent.

Pandering to spoiled children who stomp a foot and say "I want" is unrealistic, since what they will get if this is unresolved, is a life hand to mouth on the streets.
No more jobs and paper money by the basket fulls for a loaf of bread, means no more free ticket to school from Mommy and Daddy. No job means no way to work for the spoiled student either.

What would it lead to?
Rich Countrys with a "no fear" attitude to attack and dis assemble the Union would mean draft to create a military.Who wants some serious rationing from groceries to gas?
What power company survives for the computer, if no one pays an electric bill?

At least in the last great depression, the people owned the power plants.
Today?
No such luck.

Children can kick the turf and stomp, and whine and moan, but they are not going to like their future over some unvaluable talk they planned to hear.
College debates are fun games, but little meaning to a Congress called to emergency session, and a summon by the President.

If Obama shows to a debate, or says call me if you need me....it shows a complete lack of understanding what his role is.
No, they won't be calling the idiot, who was shown in the Documentary film (Obama Effect The Hype) as a constant no show, or no vote.
Obama asking the people for a job, means he should care about the job first and no college level games.

Posted by: dottydo | September 25, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree that McCain's campaign handlers are behind McCain's flip flops from day to day. He is like a puppet on a string for them. This is because the Republican Party Cult members know the Republicans are going down and hard and may lose power in Washington for years. They are using McCain and I do hope that he hasn't sold his total soul out to them, because underneath it all, I think he still has some integrity; and he would be wise to retire with dignity rather than be remembered as a ruined and discredited man.

Posted by: skolniks | September 25, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain's last plan before running out of town weeping and Palin gives up the good life she has discovered and returns to Alaska:

MC CAIN'S OCTOBER SURPRISE: BUSH ENDORSES OBAMA.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Posted by: skolniks | September 25, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

WHATS THE BIG DEAL PROBLEM FOR McCAIN. I REALLY THOUGHT THAT IF SOMEBODY WOULD TRY TO ESCAPE THIS DEBATE, THAT WOULD BE OBAMA AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF ALL McCAIN'S TOUGH TALK. IT TURNS OUT, IT WAS JUST A TALK.
DON'T CALL HIM McCAIN ANYMORE,IT SHOULD BE "McCHAOS"!!!!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | September 25, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

YOu godd--n neocons who are posting abusive rubbish like bobo4bush - get your stinking a--es off of this board and out of this country - you don't deserve this country.

Posted by: skolniks | September 25, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Bill Clinton said it's silly to think McCain is "scared" since it was McCain who wanted even MORE debates."

What McCain wanted was town hall discussions, something that seems to be McCain's forte. Like Bush, fill 'em with only your base and censor questions.

Posted by: Phatkat791 | September 25, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain's last plan before running out of town weeping and Palin gives up the good life she has discovered and returns to Alaska:

MC CAIN'S OCTOBER SURPRISE: BUSH ENDORSES OBAMA.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Posted by: skolniks | September 25, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Bill Clinton said it's silly to think McCain is "scared" since it was McCain who wanted even MORE debates."

What McCain wanted was town hall discussions, something that seems to be McCain's forte. Like Bush, fill 'em with only your base and censor questions.

Posted by: Phatkat791 | September 25, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Bill Clinton said it's silly to think McCain is "scared" since it was McCain who wanted even MORE debates."

What McCain wanted was town hall discussions, something that seems to be McCain's forte. Like Bush, fill 'em with only your base and censor questions.

Posted by: Phatkat791 | September 25, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Nice try by McCain!!! Delaying presidential debate is also elminating vice-presidential debate. This debate will be the best evidence about Sarah Palin's credentials. If McCain and Palin are playing hide and seek with public and media, well, this is the time to put up and show off or get out of this election and let Obama "Shake the thigs up in Washington". It is obvious that Palin is either really dumb when it comes to answering questions or she really just has no idea, and that is a problem for their campaign.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | September 25, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama playing politics...You kidding me.. McCain is putting on a Broadway play on capital hill right now. A deal was in reach then McCain arrives and all deals are off. I wouldn't normally say this about McCain but His position on this issue will be whatever the polls say they should be.

Posted by: case3 | September 25, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Because, then Obama would be seen as playing politics while everyone else is working to save the economy in D.C.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 25, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If weasel doesn't show, Obama should make use of the time anyway and have an on-air discussion with the moderators.

Why not?

Posted by: binkynh | September 25, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain should declare that he will attend the debate but will not condescend to answering questions as it is a insult to his patriotism. He will be willing to tell his stories about his POW experience and why that makes him leadership material.

Posted by: OscarMayer2 | September 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1:

Taking off ADVERTISING does not "help" his campaign.

abby0802:

Bill Clinton said it's silly to think McCain is "scared" since it was McCain who wanted even MORE debates.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 25, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

it's now clear that McCain had to move to plan C. Plan A (show up and broker the deal) flopped when the deal got done before he got out of NY after lying to Letterman and being made a fool of) failed.

Plan B (show up at the white house and take credit for solidifying the details) failed

so that left Plan C (scuttle the deal and then pretend to rescue it)

how do we know that's the plan? McCain, who said he wouldn't debate unless there's a deal, says he will probably be there. since there's nothing going on except unanimity that McCain is scuttling the deal, McCain must now be planning to cave just in time to claim he did something and head to Mississippi.

Obamma is the only one being presidential. he regrets that he and McCain ever showed up to inject politics into the mix. this is all about McCain trying to pretend to be presidential and the sanctimony of his "even if this hurts my campaign, it's the right thing to do" is unbelievable. he's only doing it to help his campaign

Posted by: JoeT1 | September 25, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain is running scared. He "runs" back to Washington, DC, because he knows he cannot face all the questions that may come up this Friday regarding the economy and his proposals whereas Obama plans to be there knowing that he is able to multi-task. McCain doesn't even know the meaning of the word.

McCain obviously has no regard for the voters if he would duck a debate on the pretense he is needed in Washington. The only thing he is needed for is to enter the shuffleboard contests at the retirement home.

The Bush administration has created this mess and now wants the American taxpayer to bail out their friends.

Sorry, this taxpayer says "NO!!!!"

Of course, what I think means nothing.

Bend over, America, you are about to get the shaft.....

Posted by: abby0802 | September 25, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

ATTN McCain-Palin supporters:

The Obama people are circulating a PBS online poll on Sarah Palin in order to skew it. You can access it at my blog- don't let the Dems get away with dirty tricks!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcpsychic | September 25, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Country first or ME first ???
Posted by: thecannula | September 25, 2008 6:44 PM |
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Neither McCain or Obama are on the committee shaping this plan.

The deal is nearly done and then McCain lands in DC.

McCain has had no contact with Chris Dodd - a congressional aide has been quoted as saying "He (McCain) has had ZERO percent input.

BTW: Obama has been in constant contact with the committee chairman, Chris Dodd.

Posted by: JRM2 | September 25, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: adr3 | September 25, 2008 5:48 PM

"What a contrast. McCain realizes the importance of the economic crisis and that his first job is as a senator and to fulfill his duties as such when our country is faced with such a crisis."

Um, you do realize that McCain is neither on the Senate Financing Committee or Banking Committee?

His role in this is merely to vote. He's trying to put himself in the position where he's America's knight in shining armour com to save the day.

Wake up and smell the coffee. In the recent poll this week;

"The Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll: “Asked which candidate could do a better job of handling the financial crisis as president next year, 48% of registered voters named Obama and 35% named McCain.”"

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/24/1438468.aspx

You think it's just coincidence that suddenly McCain cares so much about the economic distress in the U.S that he's willing to put his campaign on hold? It's an obvious political move to negate the poor polling numbers in this region, and also the recent light shined on his campaign manager, Rick Davis, being paid (up until a month ago) for lobbying work done for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160713

Face facts republicans. It's as plain as day, and if you won't face reality, well then I guess ignorance is bliss?

Posted by: Phatkat791 | September 25, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

So the deal is all but done and now McCain comes into town.

This is his LAST gambit.

I'll be very surprised if McCain's campaign doesn't deteriorate from here on out.

Posted by: JRM2 | September 25, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Before Bush's phone call, as McCain put everything on hold to help fix our countries economic fallout, Obama stood back and made the statement "If I can be helpful, then I am prepared to be anywhere, any time". I guess he was too busy cramming in Clearwater for his big midterm. Cue the music-


CHORUS
And no wind (no wind)
And no rain (no rain)
Or winter’s cold
Can stop me, baby (oh baby)
‘Cause if you’re ever in trouble
I’ll be there on the double
Just send for me, baby
Oh baby....

Country first or ME first ???

Posted by: thecannula | September 25, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

anyone seen the next instalment of Palin's interview with Couric, she's talking about Russia & for the life of me I can't wrap my head around it....its beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: MrSmith1 | September 25, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | September 25, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

kelvinator-Sorry, that was a little over the top. Just bored and having a little fun. I crack myself up at least.
That's the problem with libs, they can't relax and laugh a little. You guys take yourselfs to seriously.

McCain/Palin 2008! Palin/HR Clinton 2012!

Posted by: Bobo4bush | September 25, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

By the way, bobo4bush, anyone who would admit they're for the walking disaster Bush at this point isn't doing McCain a favor by supporting him publicly...

Let's see what McClown has to say at the debates now that he's single-handedly averted global financial collapse.

Posted by: kelvinator | September 25, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

May be it is OK if McCain doesn't show. Gives Obama an opportunity to do a 90 minute interview with Jim Lehrer. An opportunity Lehrer will jump at if given the chance.

So much for McCain the Stuntman's grandstanding.

I am not sure if McCain's presence firmed up Republican resistance. If it did, it clearly demonstrates that McCain speaks from each side of his mouth at the same time. Not a man you trust.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | September 25, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Send Palin . . .NAKED!

Posted by: trenda | September 25, 2008 5:09 PM
+++++++++++++

You'd have to, because if ever there was a case where the Emperor Has No Clothes, she's it.

Posted by: Seaglass | September 25, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

bobo4bush - I can't tell whether 1) you're for McCain, or whether 2) you're actually for Obama, and trying to make people for McCain look like they're idiots. If it's the second one, you're doing a great job.

Posted by: kelvinator | September 25, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

WELL GOOD LUCK!!!

Posted by: fu_buki | September 25, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

"God d*mn America! God d*mn America!
I told you only The One can sort this mess out. He and his team of god d*mn muslims and terrorists. They will get to the bottom of this. Or at least raise you god d*mn taxes and kill your god d*mn babies. Kill whitey!"-Rev J. Wright

That says it all.

Posted by: Bobo4bush | September 25, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"God d*mn America! God d*mn America!
I told you only The One can sort this mess out. He and his team of god d*mn muslims and terrorists. They will get to the bottom of this. Or at least raise you god d*mn taxes and kill your god d*mn babies. Kill whitey!"-Rev J. Wright

That says it all.

Posted by: Bobo4bush | September 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Yes, "What a contrast..."

Congress was close to or had agreed to a bill and no sooner had this happened, that McCain threw a wrench into the whole process.

It's sick to think, that McCain has put his own political career ahead of you and I.

Posted by: wolfi101 | September 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

If John has to hold his best friend Dubya's hand during the negotiations, why doesn't Sarah fill in for him in Oxford? According to McCain and the GOP, she's way more experienced than Obama, so it should be a cakewalk. Just Like McCain promised Iraq would be.

Posted by: northguy3 | September 25, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

What a contrast. McCain realizes the importance of the economic crisis and that his first job is as a senator and to fulfill his duties as such when our country is faced with such a crisis. Obama doesn't get it - he can't understand what would be accomplished by his rushing back to Washington to vote "present" would accomplish. (This would be one of the few times I would have to agree with him.) I am glad McCain canceled the debate. It would be a waste of time anyway and beneath John McCain to be on the same platform with Obama

Posted by: adr3 | September 25, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The president is holding the election process hostage! He will claim that he needs McCain until the bill is passed.
He will detain the debate process until the bill is passed.

You want this process to go on? Sign the bill? Don,t read it, just sign it!

Posted by: Veritasamus | September 25, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me pretty clear that McCain is no longer in control of his campaign. It just doesn't fit the John McCain that campagined for President in 2000. That guy is dead, and this undead vampire has risen after being bit by the Nosferatu of politics, Karl Rove.

It's clear now, more than ever, that a vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of George Bush.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | September 25, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

When reality is so absurd, satire is dead...

Posted by: jps78 | September 25, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

As an on-the-fence voter, I have to admit McCain is losing it. First, he lets Rove's lackey Steve Schmidt take over his soul. What happened to the off-the-cuff McCain that thought for himself? Then he picks the LEAST experienced female he can find (how about Christine Todd-Whitman instead of Sarah?) Now he makes an excuse to not show up at the debate, like getting out of a college exam because the dog ate his textbook. Could it be because he knows he's going to get raked over the coals for a being the king of DE-regulation? Hmmmm.....
One word describes the "new" McCain. Impetuous. NOT the temperament I want at the helm of free world.

Posted by: LuvIndians | September 25, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Gator-ron, you must be joking? Please tell me you are.

Really? I would have something to say, but I just cannot believe you are serious.

Posted by: nagatuki | September 25, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

The CPD is biased toward Obama. They won't let McCain change the date of the debate or eliminate the VP debate altogether. It is unfair and biased just like Dan Balz and the NYT.

Outrageous!

Posted by: Gator-ron | September 25, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Lolz! McCain = OWNED!

Posted by: vmunikoti | September 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad they didn't accept McCain's faux concern as a reason for postponing the debate.

I guess they saw through the BS just like the rest of us.

Posted by: DinahS | September 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Send Palin . . .NAKED!

Posted by: trenda | September 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

There's no good reason for McCain not to show.

Posted by: info42 | September 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Somebody needs to wake up Grampy and ask him if he's ready to debate yet.

Posted by: Glimpy | September 25, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

A SILENT COUP?


The real question is who is working the strings on the McCain-Palin marionette.

McCain is not his own man these days. The one-eighty he displayed with his vice presidential selection tells the tale. Look at John McCain's eyes. They are very red and glassy. Something is not right.

The current financial "crisis" conjures up memories of the Reichstag fire, "Remember the Maine," the Gulf of Tonkin, and "weapons of mass destruction." This seems a manufactured crisis, a manifestation of a long-term strategy aimed at imposing autocratic dominance upon the supposedly co-equal branches of federal government.

The "suspension" of the McCain-Palin campaign could be just the initial salvo in an assault upon the American political system. What's next? A manipulated market crash? Suspension of the presidential election? Imposition of martial law?

Don't laugh. The plans are in place; the executive orders have been signed. The FEMA camps are ready to receive the "dissenters."

Think it can't happen in America? Consider THIS:

TARGETING OF AMERICANS BY GOV'T AGENCIES
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress is being asked to rush through emergency legislation -- to cede effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis.

But were lenders ORDERED to offer "easy credit" to people "targeted" by government agencies?

Is government "targeting" of American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?

For more, see:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis OR
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